### Apollo BBS Archive - August 23, 1988

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    Message: 4056
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: B-Dog/Hawley
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 00:10:11

            Need to get together to move desk..stop
            Suggest date we can ALL meet..stop
            Time?..stop
            leave responce..stop

    Message: 4057
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 04:10:48

    How much does it pay?

    Message: 4058
    Author: $ Rod Bias
    Category: Believe it or not!
    Subject: Rod W-i-l-l-i-a-m-s
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 05:38:26

         He is a closet Christian!

              He is infiltrating this board!

                   One day, when you least expect it,

                        he will announce his sudden conversion.

                   Then he'll spill his guts,

              not only about himself,

         but about all the rest of us!

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    Message: 978
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Review/Critique
    Subject: Excuse me, but....
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 17:39:32

            This is the ART SIG.... Get back to the subject for what it was
    created for, or it too will fall into the d of lost boards.
    I do not like to see politics or religion strewn about all over the place.
    I come here for more enjoyable things.......

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 979
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 18:45:34

            How about continuing our discussion on the Cos sig?

    I a

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    Message: 979
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 18:45:34

            How about continuing our discussion on the Cos sig?

    I am interested as to what is keeping you going. I got the impression that
    the Devil already has your soul so what is inside of you now?
    Just a shell?

    A better idea ..... how about the WAY below normal sig. This discussion is
    better suited there.

    See you in the Way below normal ............

    Message: 980
    Author: $ Rod Bias
    Category: Review/Critique
    Subject: Ralph
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 05:49:30

    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

                Rod Bias
                has been
                known
                to post
                on this
                SIG.

                                 Ralph,

                                 What are "plane" words?

                                 Words that fall flat?

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     1:        Okay, I agree and I zapped that message.  I was mighty tired last
     2:night when I posted and didn't realize this was the art SIG.  Sorry.
     3:end

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     1:        No way Jose!   I'll give you my impression of the typical Christian.
     2:Several weeks ago, late in the evening, I was on my patio just going to
     3:sleep when I heard wispering on the street.  Next sound I heard was the
     4:rather loud sound of breaking glass as if my van's window was being broken.
     5:I jumped up, only in my shorts and gave chase.  Half a block down the street
     6:I caught two teenage males, had a neighbor who heard the commotion phone the
     7:police.  Both of my tail lights had been smashed out and I yelled at the
     8:vandals for their efforts.
     9:        Around the neck of the bigger of the two hung a chain with a cross
    10:upon it.  The cross contained a Jesus image (sortof like a Superman image
    11:only with a beard) and I said to the fellow, "What's that?", he replied,
    12:"I'm a Christian."
    13:        That explains it.
    14:                        * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
    15:end

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    Message: 1873
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 18:50:03

            I am afraid that the Bible would have an electrifing experience to
    whom ever read the Bible in such a fashion.........

    Message: 1874
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Sandy on JT
    Date: 08/23/88

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    Message: 1872
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: JT/Bible
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 17:28:54

            Yeah, that's it, read the Bible.

    Message: 1873
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 18:50:03

            I am afraid that the Bible would have an electrifing experience to
    whom ever read the Bible in such a fashion.........

    Message: 1874
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Sandy on JT
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 06:42:13

    I wanted him to read the Bible because it is full of 'humbleness' and he
    needs to find that - you know - a 'born again humbler'!! If not - then he's
    lost forever. Ta ta. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 1875
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Re-BuTTal
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 07:38:57

       I've read this God fellow's book, the Bible, and he doesn't seem too
    humble to me.  He keeps going on about how perfect, omnipotent, omniscient,
    just, wise, etc., etc., he is.  That's humble?

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     1:        Yeah, but the part a person who is to be a Christian is to play, has
     2:to be humble, ya know.  "Bringing in the Sheep".  Like, kiss my ass then
     3:give me all your money.
     4:* - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
     5:end

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    Message: 53838
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: last...
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 17:59:19

            Yes LLoyd, I know I could never convince Paul with facts... I just
    have fun watching a right wing liberal extreamist doing his dance of
    misqotes.   Did you hear him today call Quayle a BELOW average student on
    KFYI... I had a good laugh.  As far as the experts understand, a "C" is
    average.  Quayle may not have been a straight 'A' student, but he did not
    get below a 'C' on anything.  He also got 'B's and 'A's on some subjects as
    I understand.... But that is all the garbage the Democrats can come up with
    so why not FALSLY say he was a "BELOW AVERAGE STUDENT"... makes good press
    and sells papers...
            I joined the Navy during the Vietnam Conflict... I did not wish to
    join the National Gaurd as I did not want to fight in some damn jungle.
    Knowing SOME Gaurd units get called up and some don't...I chose the NAVY!
    The Democrats have you believeing because Quayle did not have a 'Death Wish'
    for himself, he is unpatriotic.... Pure BULL$hit!  Grasping at straws and
    not talking issues.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    P.S.  Note the ote on Apollo... even the Libertarians are ahead of the
    Democrats.... And Apollo's Votes have not been far off in predicting the
    outcome.  (Now this ote may be a little early, a lot can happen in the
    next few months.  We will re-run this ote again a little before the real
    one to see if there is a change)

    Message: 53839
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Labor
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 20:19:31

    Paul is correct that Reagan is no friend of labor -- if by "labor" we mean
    organized labor.  Unions have systematically attempted to stop competition
    from less skilled, poorer workers (often minorities).  If a business did
    what they do, liberals would be screaming "monopoly" and "anti-trust."
    Ironically, those hurt by unions are the very ones liberals claim to be
    wanting to help.  But through racist legislation such as the Davis-Bacon
    Act, unions have all but locked out the poor from the labor force.
    The Economist had an interesting article last week on the NAIRU
    (Non-Accelerating-Inflation Rate of Unemployment), which is what economists
    call the minimum unemployment rate that can be achieved without inflation.
    The U.S. unemployment rate is BELOW what economists thought was the NAIRU --
    and Europe's is around 11%, yet without inflation.  So it appears that the
    NAIRU is capable of change -- and many economists credit Reagan's tough
    anti-union policies (particulary the PATCO firings) for such a low
    unemployment rate.
    Eliminate barriers to employment, and many of the people trapped in poverty
    will be able to work their way out.

    Message: 53840
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Silliness
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 20:21:46

    A guest on Crossfire said the same thing Ann did about "why hasn't Reagan
    succeeded in getting rid of abortion?"  Pat Buchanan gave the same response
    I did.
    So don't worry too much about being silly, Ann: you're in good company
    (well, company, anyway).

    Message: 53841
    Author: Jamais Avion
    Category: For sale
    Subject: IBM Software
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 21:35:29

    IBM FORTRAN
    IBM COMPILED BASIC

    never been used
    make offer

    Jamais Avion

    Message: 53842
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Vote
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 21:57:38

    The vote is interesting (I'm not sure it really is accurate, since I doubt
    Paul will get more votes than Dukakis in the actual election).  But it isn't
    that important; if the last nine elections are any clue, Arizona will go
    Republican.  California is a far more important state, and it appears to be
    up for grabs.  Here's the results from a San Diego BBS:

    This poll ran for two weeks from the day after the Democratic convention:
    President of the United States will be.....(first straw poll).....
    1:Bush - Republican         : 57  46.3%
    2:Dukakis - Democratic      : 56  45.5%
    3:other candidate/party     :  3   2.4%
    4:no comment                :  7   5.7%
    Total                        123

    These are the results so far from the poll put up the day after the
    Republican convention:
    1:Bush - Republican         : 43  64.2%
    2:Dukakis - Democratic      : 20  29.9%
    3:other candidate/party     :  2   2.0%
    4:no comment                :  2   2.0%
    Total                         67

    Message: 53843
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Politics
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 23:21:44

    who'd you'll vote for and you who think will win should have absolutely no
    bearing on each other.

    Message: 53844
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: grammar
    Date: 08/22/88  Time: 23:21:59

    What did I say?

    Message: 53845
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: rich candidates
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 02:43:39

    I suppose those $100 suits that Dukakis wears are just to throw us off the
    track.

    Message: 53846
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Beau
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 03:58:57

    I agree, but the Sysop didn't want to change the wording once it had started
    out that way.  There was an agreement on the board that the vote should be
    for who you WANT to win; it's difficult to say whether the wording caused
    any distortion.

    Message: 53847
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dukakis/suits
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 04:02:24

    Right, and the same is true of his 25 year-old snowblower.  He has a net
    worth over a million.  This is nothing compared to his running-mate,
    however.  But more interesting is the net worth of their fathers.  The order
    there is (I think) Bentsen, Quayle, Bush, Dukakis.  I'm guessing somewhat,
    but all of them come from wealthy families.  One article I read mentioned
    that Bentsen's father was several times wealthier than Bush's.
    I can't see how it is at all relevant, however.

    Message: 53848
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rich presidents
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 06:21:29

    I think the last 'non-millionair' was Truman! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53849
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Vice Pres.
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 06:37:20

    With all this hooplah over the V.P - one would think they are running for
    the highest office in the land! Are the Pres. candidates so boring and blah
    that the press and people have to focus on the second in line to create a
    little interest? Quayle is handsome alright - but so what? Bush could lose
    having this jerk running with him. Bentson is a plastic faced, typical baby
    kissing politician. He also looks like he had a face lift recently. Dukakis
    still looks like a B-movie, cheap hood even with those $100 suits. And Bush
    - he looks like a faded, tired old man that walks such a stright line, that
    if it ended abruptly at a cliff - he'd just walk over the edge before taking
    another path. Yeah - I know I'm talking about 'appearences' again - but what
    else is there about these four? Certainly NOT presidential stuff! I've read
    about all they profess to believe in - their records - their promices - but
    don't believe most of it. I have discussed this with many people - both
    democratic and republican that say the same thing - but they'll vote the
    'lesser of two evils'!! No wonder people have became apathetic at the polls!
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53850
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: War!
    Subject: Clifford!!
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 06:55:00

    Reagan a friend of labor? My hynie!
    He has destroyed more labor organizations, put more Americans out of decent
    paying jobs, and created the poorest climate for the working people of this
    coountry than has been experienced in years! Look at the trade deficit! What
    do you think that means? I'll tell you what it means. It means that every
    foreign car that runs on American roads means that many more Americans out
    of work, and that much more American dollars supporting the alreadt healthy
    economy of Japan, Korea or some other foreign country that we had to beat in
    the last several wars, and which we are now supporting at the cost of the
    American taxpayer.
    Why don't you and some of your conservative friends get your collective head
    out of the sand and see how middle America is getting screwed royally by
    your precious second-rate actor and his super-rich friends, all of whom
    probably have interest in those foreign companies that are getting
    prosperous at our expense! Wake up and smell the skunks! They're right under
    your nose!

    Message: 53851
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Misc
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 07:32:11

        Most of the people that are complaining about Quayle joining the
    National Guard are NOT upset with him trying to avoid going.  What they are
    upset with is hypocrisy:  We must fight the Commies, but don't send me.
    If he came out and said that Vietnam was a stupid, pointless war (pardon me,
    "police action") and that anyone with any brains wouldn't support it, and
    *that's* why he went into the National Guard, then the liberals would leave
    him alone.  In fact, it might gain him some Democratic crossover votes.  The
    far right, on the other hand, would be livid, and would demand that Bush
    dump Quayle.

       I think we have thrashed through this labor issue before.  It seems to be
    a tug-of-war between wages and employment.  Sure, you can employ lots of
    people if you can pay them as little as you want.  I honestly am not sure
    what would be the result of dropping labor regulations.  It might result in
    a full-employment mecca, or it might result in a dramatic drop in wages, and
    throw the country into a depression, and be a return to the sweatshops of
    the late 19th and early 20th centuries.  The free market didn't stop
    companies from paying pennies per hour, and working employees 16 hours a
    day, seven days a week.  I don't see anything but labor regulations that are
    stopping that from comming back.

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     1:        What a sick world we live in.  Too bad.
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    Message: 130
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 02:47:41

    Well, I guess somebody had to become the endless babbler now that Zak is
    gone.

    Message: 131
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: Sandy
    Date: 08/23/88  Time: 08:46:52

            Out of respect for Zak, I thought I would help keep his name alive
    by using his Category from time to time.
            I, in no way associate myself with the Christian image.  They are,
    in my opinion, a group of mindless sheep.
            On the other hand, to continue our discussion from the art Sig, I
    think the devil has more going for him.  If it weren't for Satan, places
    like the Bush company would not exist and you know, we all need to see
    exactly what the female anatomy looks like up close, right?
      If there were no devil this world would be full of do-good Christian
    twerps and movies such as the Last Temptation would have never been made.
    Everything in existance would be narrow and one sided.
            Ya know, I've often wondered myself about Jesus and his temptations,
    did he masturbate with his right hand, his left hand or because he was the
    son of God, was he ambidextrous and was a switch hitter, using both?
            Religion is one of the major things that has this world screwed up
    real bad.
            Aren't you glad you asked?
            * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod

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