### Apollo BBS Archive - May 21, 1998

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    Message: 3465
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Rebuttal
    Subject: Last...
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 15:00:00

    Yeah, it's dem PIG CAPITALISTS that are de trouble behind all this $#!+.
    $#!+ man, I used to be able to suck LSD all day and pay my rent with
    a couple of doobies and some reds man.
    Like, $#!+, ya know, whos sez da big man works harder dan me eh?
    I think dey should pay me for doin nothin!
    Like, Circle K is run by some FAT CAPITALIST PIG rakin in the bucks makin
    slaves do his work. Yeah, that's right. They are CHAINED to the counter
    and FORCED to work minimum wage man. It's because dey're broke man. Also
    'cuz the price of SMOKE went up and LSD is like buyin gold now, ya know?
    $#!+ man, we're the povertry class. We can NEVER work hard and bust our
    A$$ES to do better, I'm too busy smokin it up and it's a real drag
    goin tuh school ya know..like I cant handle the homework man,
    I start seein little men on the moon walkin all over my text books all the
    time man. Sheet, how do they expect me to go there..it's a PRISON CAMP man.
    Damn {U(&ING CAPITALIST FAT PIGS have got it all ya know?

    When you come down out of your drug induced state of hyper hallucinating
    delusionary babble , get a haircut, take a shower, shave, get a job
    and make some goals instead of whining the same old "HAVE-NOT" crap
    over and over and over again. If you simply can't STAND capitalism ,
    get the F--K out of this country and go live in some other political
    scheeme. I.E. Don't whine, do something about it!           -Mike

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     1:        I would suggest that you get a brain.  The first part of your
     2:message is correct, Mike.  Some pig capitalist, Carl Eller, I believe is
     3:getting wealthy off the labors of the poor and if you think that Circle K
     4:pays good wages or is a good place to work then I suggest you get a job
     5:there.
     6:        What I am suggesting is 'profit sharing', a chance for a laborer to
     7:make a few dollars more than enough to survive.  Ya know, like a little
     8:extra for the employee to be able to relax a bit.
     9:        I do not knock capitalism, per se, I knock the hell out of PIG
    10:CAPITALISM and Circle K is just one of the many who fits the bill.
    11:        By the way, asshole, I haven't done what you refer to as drugs since
    12:last January so fuck off.
    13:                                Rod
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    Message: 3466
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Mike
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 19:07:20

            I would suggest that you get a brain.  The first part of your
    message is correct, Mike.  Some pig capitalist, Carl Eller, I believe is
    getting wealthy off the labors of the poor and if you think that Circle K
    pays good wages or is a good place to work then I suggest you get a job
    there.
            What I am suggesting is 'profit sharing', a chance for a laborer to
    make a few dollars more than enough to survive.  Ya know, like a little
    extra for the employee to be able to relax a bit.
            I do not knock capitalism, per se, I knock the hell out of PIG
    CAPITALISM and Circle K is just one of the many who fits the bill.
            By the way, asshole, I haven't done what you refer to as drugs since
    last January so %6$# off.
                                    Rod

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    Message: 3467
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 00:32:46

    That's Karl Eller, you scum!

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    Message: 3468
    Author: $ Rod Williams
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    Subject: last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 01:20:22

            Right you are!  Is he related to Karl Marx, by any chance?
                            Rod
    P.S.  Awaiting your answer

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    Message: 1444
    Author: $ Mike Howerton
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 01:00:15

    There really aren't any to give. Her and her boyfriend got off with
    slaps on the wrists when I thought they should have at least been
    forced to sit in the same room with each other for an hour or two.
    Sorry, I couldn't think of any worse torture.
    heh heh  God I love wars.

    If her and I war again, James can't help her. I'll war with him some
    other time.

    Message: 1445
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: LAST
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 23:18:51

    ?????

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    Message: 451
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: GT or Bust!
    Subject: here's the plan
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 00:28:33

    If you want to be witness the historic 9.5 seconds of film, be at Rod's
    house at 6:30 PM this evening (today is Sunday, for those of you who aren't
    sure). I'll bring my projector, but I'm sure Dean's is better than the one I
    have, so bring it along, Dean.

    Message: 452
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 00:34:07

    Ok.  And for the uniniated or slow user, Rods address is 1034 East Windsor.
    One block south of Thomas, right next to North High.

    Nick, I assume you're bringing the pizzas?

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    Message: 809
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 03:11:11

    You're just Biased.

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    Message: 444
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Todd
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 03:17:22

    You are speaking of Hobby Bench in PV mall.  It is owned by Lee Piester,
    owner and founder of the original Centuri Engineering.  Lee and a few other
    people are also launch a 'medium' power line of engines and kits, named
    Enertek.

    They carry a pretty good line of kits, but they always seem to be at full
    retail, or even a little more.  Lee loves his profits.  Hobby stores are
    just dwindling and dwindling.  Especially the rocket sections.

    You might actually just get some body tubing and nose cones and custom build
    your own.  They do have a good selection of tubing and such.  You might also
    look at the LOC (Lots of Crafts) kit selection.  They aren't quite as
    fancily packaged as the Estes, but are pretty good.  They have a couple of
    'medium' powered kits for $9-$15 each.  Their big 'high' power kits run
    $30-$300.

    If you need help in the store, ask for Scott Branche.  He's pretty
    knowledgeable.

    Message: 445
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: GT or Bust!
    Subject: Film developed!
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 03:26:27

    The 8mm film has been developed.  I personally haven't viewed it yet, but
    I've been informed that the first two seconds in the flight were fine.  Then
    there seemed to be a flash of some kind.  A couple of things could have
    happened.  The most likely is first:

    The epoxy I used on the motor mount softened under the high heat of the
    engine.  The motor mount moved forward, and part of the body tube seperated
    from the motor mount.

    Or, the engine 'hicupped' at that point.

    I think we should have a GT at some time soon, so everyone that wants can
    view all the tapes, and the film.  Dean said he has a projector, so we will
    have to find a time that he can be there.  (Unless we want to hold the film
    up to the light.)

    Also, when the payload section hit the ground, it knocked the on/off switch
    to the off position.  But at least we have the first 9.5 seconds of the
    flight.

    (The rocket definitely seemed stable, although it did have some spin on it.
    Ron Schultz from LOC seems to think that the epoxy is the problem.)

    Message: 446
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 03:48:01

    I have a projector as well, so if Dean is unavailable I'll provide it. How
    about Sunday evening. Maybe we could discuss it over pizza. Of course, now
    that I've proposed a time, James will insist that we meet at 7AM at 300th
    avenue and Bell...

    By the way, I told you I saw a flash on the tape.

    Message: 447
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 10:08:02

    I have stills.  I have another engagement Sunday evening, and I'll be out of
    town for a few days/few weeks. I'll try to drop my pictures off with Hawley
    today. Don't worry about me at the GT, I'll see the film later.

    It looked impressive at launch...

    Message: 448
    Author: $ Dean McCarron
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: Sunday
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 11:54:19

    Fine with me.  I'll drag the projector out, and Nick can bring his for
    redundancy.  Now, where is the 8MMFPRGTGT going to be?
    (That's 8mm Film, Post-Rocket-GT GT, BTW.)

    Dean

    Message: 449
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Beau
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 18:08:44

    Well Beau and Jim Lippard dropped off his stills to me this afternoon.  Very
    nice.  You should see the flame from the engine taking off!

    Thanks, Beau.

    Message: 450
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 18:10:45

    Pizza is fine with me.  As long as it isn't Peter Piper.

    I still haven't picked up the film, maybe I can do that later this evenign
    or tomorrow afternoon.

    I'm delegating the meeting time/place to Nick.  That way if there is any
    problem we get to whine all night and say, "Niiiiiiccccck!".

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    Message: 52277
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod's friend
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 00:14:27

    Of course, Rod, if pot were legal, your friend would not stand to gain much
    by dealing it.  Prices would come way down and it would be much less
    lucrative as a small-time occupation.

    Also, how did your friend get to be a legislature?

    Message: 52278
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: smoking
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 09:20:52

    I'll be brief and give you my opinion. I smoke because I want to and enjoy
    it! I will gladly adnit to it being an addiction, but it is asinine to
    put it in the same catagory as 'hard stuff'. That's like lumping Marijuana
    in with Heroin. Lets say - it is an addiction that I enjoy. I have no fears
    or guilt about smoking. I am a considerate smoker and think about others
    when they are around. As fas as all the stuff that's printed about tobacco -
    I believe only about a forth of it and no more. Why? Because we don't get to
    compare the other side of it. It is a fact that most light or heavy smokers
    do NOT DIE OF LUNG CANCER. Yet, we never hear about that. How about the
    people that do die of it that never smoked or even lived around a smoker?
    How about the people that have smoked for years, quit for 30 years and still
    die of lung cancer? Statistic wise, cancer is an old person's disease.
    Wouldn't we then still die of cancer if smoking was completely outlawed? And
    James W. - it is ridiculous to believe that none smokers add 30 years to
    to their lives by not doing it. That is a classic example of 'over reacting'
    don't you think? Do all of you really think that if there was no smoking,
    drinking, drugs, eggs, butter, estrogen, carcinigens, vitimine A, fats etc.
    etc. or anything that is supposed to harm you in this field - that we'd live
    forever or something? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52279
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 10:46:40

    That is silly.  Smoking is indisputably hazardous to your health.

    Message: 52280
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Smoking Story
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 11:20:25

    True Story.....  No Hype!
         My uncle Bob (age/in his 50s) was a smoker.  He did not smoke as heavy
    as Ann smokes, but he sounds like Ann in his remarks about smoking.  "I
    enjoy it and I don't believe half the crap they say about tobacco, it's all
    hype!"  Well, a few years ago he was in the doctors office with a problem...
    no not cancer, but he was having a hard time breathing.  After an extended
    examination, the Doctor said, "One of your lungs is collapsing and if you do
    not quit smoking today..... you will not see your son graduate from High
    School."  My Uncle Bob was very proud of his son, and it was only about a
    year more till he would graduate, so he did indeed quit!  Not taper off, but
    out and out never picked up a cigarette again.  He did live to see his son
    graduate, but now runs out of breath very quickly, even from such things
    like a short walk.  He is constantly saying he wished he had listened to all
    the warnings his friends were trying to give him about smoking.  He knows
    now that the "ENJOYMENT" he got from smoking was not worth it, and if he
    could live his life over again, he would NOT smoke!

         Smoking does more then just cause cancer, there are other respiratory
    ailments that ruin your old age retirement and shorten your life.

         This was a true story.... but you will have people that want their
    momentary kicks now and "screw the future" attitudes that will say this is
    all HYPE.   I for one, say you have the right to do whatever you want to
    your body, but, what a waste.  Get HIGH on LIFE!        SYSOP Cliff

    Message: 52281
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 11:36:06

            Ann, you do not wish to compair tobacco to hard drugs, but most hard
    drugs are clean and don't crap up the lungs of a person.  Over in Europe
    they will show the public cut open lungs of smokers, and they are awfull!
    Here you are PROTECTED from the truth more than you think.

            Hard drugs can't be compaired to tobacco in another way, Hard Drugs
    don't hurt the people around the users, Smoking DOES hurt the Non-smokers
    by the way of "Second Hand Smoke".

            I like to have my windows open at night here in Phoenix when the
    night air is cool.  But when my nieghboor 'lights up' on his patio and the
    wind is drifting in my direction... it STINKS!  It is gross, and I have to
    close my windows.  If he used CRACK instead, that would not bother my right
    for clean air and he would get his high or enjoyment.

            Why can't you get high on LIFE?  I loved the clean smelling air up
    in the mountains of Montana...  How refreashing!

    Message: 52282
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Libby Bellitter
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 14:39:06

    Is your wolf smarter than you?

    Message: 52283
    Author: Lawrence Wilson
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Insurance scam
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 15:50:14

            Is it is ok to pass a law to require you to
    have insurance? On the surface this would appear to
    be a debatable subject. Who can find the flaw?
    No one can unless they know the basics. We are not
    taught the basics because we would be to powerful
    for the government to control! If everyone in this
    country understood their Constitutional rights they
    would not let the government/insurance scam take
    root. Everyone would know that this "law" is
    clearly Unconstitutional. To require you to have
    insurance BEFORE you have been declared financially
    irresponsible-BEFORE you can license your car (pay
    the taxes on it)-BEFORE you can operate your car-
    that is PRIOR RESTRAINT and violates the Constitutional
    Limits placed on government which requires Due Process
    of Law and mandates that everyone shall be considered
    innocent until proven quilty. You may never be involved
    in an accident for which you would be liable for damages.
    To enforce such a rule would violate the basic precept
    of the Constitution. California courts struck down such
    efforts as being "in conflict with the Constitution"
    almost as fast as law enforcement officers tried to
    demand that drivers show proof of insurance.
    In order to understand how many ways this system

    Message: 52284
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Tales & Tall Stories
    Subject: Tru Fax
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 16:24:20

      According to the *Los Angeles Times*, "Air traffic
    controllers at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX)
    prepared for a full emergency when a private pilot radioed
    them, frantically reporting that he could hardly breathe and
    barely see."  LAX, the fourth busiest airport in the
    country, was shut down for twenty minutes during the crises.
      "All of LAX's runways were cleared, departing jetliners
    were ordered to stay put, and in-bound flights were
    instructed to circle so that the ailing flyer could land
    ahead of them.  Fire trucks and ambulances rolled when it
    appeared he was about to fall from the sky."
      However, when the pilot, thirty-two-year-old Theodoros
    Favricanos, finally landed, he stepped from his "rented,
    single-engine Cessna in a white top hat and white tuxedo,
    complete with a pink carnation.  Then he declared that he
    was calling a press conference to announce the formation of
    a new religion."

      A computerized hunt for traffic scofflaws in Orange, New
    Jersey, turned up the name of Paul Monacelli, and a warrant
    was issued for his arrest.  Monacelli is Orange's mayor.
         *(San Diego) Tribune*

    Message: 52285
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Tales & Tall Stories
    Subject: Tru Fax
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 16:33:40

      Washington State senate candidate Dan Gahn cut campaign
    costs by using two-cent stamps instead of twenty-two-cent
    stamps on his political mailings.  All but a few of Gahn's
    fund-raising letters cleared the post office with the
    two-cent stamps.
      "I'm sure there was no intent to defraud," said postal
    spokesperson Ruby Hawks.  "We figured it was just as honest
    mistake on his part."
      "Think of it this way," said Gahn's campaign manager, Bruce
    Patterson.  "If you had a choice between spending five cents
    for postage or fifty cents for postage, which would you
    choose?"
      Gahn, a Republican, reportedly commented: "It worked."
         *Seattle Times*

      According to the Hanover, New Hampshire, police log, a
    woman called to report that her refrigerator was whistling.
    "Complaintant advises she would whistle back, but has false
    teeth and can't pucker up anymore," the complaint log said.
         *Boston Herald*

    Message: 52286
    Author: Patrick Knight
    Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
    Subject: PROGRAMS !!!
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 17:05:22

    TO RED SKULL:
         THANX ALOT FOR THE PROGRAMS I GOT THE OTHER DAY, THEY WERE COOL!
     WE'LL HAVE TO GET IN TOUCH AGAIN.....MAYBE BY THEN I'LL HAVE SOME MORE
     STUFF YOU'LL LIKE.
                            THANX AGAIN,
                               -(KNIGHT-TIME)-

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     1:        In the pre-sentence report there was a sentence that mentioned that
     2:my friend was active in the decriminalization of marijuana.
     3:        It appears, according to what I have been reading, that drugs will
     4:soon be made legal.  This should be interesting, eh?
     5:                                Rod
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    Message: 52288
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/smoking
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 21:38:39

    But you see - smoking to me is one of the things that get me 'high on life'!
    To each his own. Yes - I've heard such stories - got many myself. One guy I
    know quit smoking 15 years ago - he's still dying of lung cancer. Of course,
    he is 75.

    Message: 52289
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/J.T.
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 21:48:36

    You guys better watch it or you'll talk me into quitting smoking! Will you
    still love me when I get fat? Cliff - you think I'm a hyper maniac now -
    what will I be if I quit? I will bite my false fingernails off at the roots
    and pull my hair out by the black roots! OOPS - did I say that? I'd get mean
    (meaner) and nasty (nastier). Now, I'm a pretty happy person that lives for
    'right now' - not some future that I don't even know exsists. I can also
    smell the clean air when I'm in it. Smoking does not make a person non-human
    you know or unfeeling. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52290
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 22:34:24

    I don't think drugs will be legalized any time soon.  More likely, the "war
    on drugs" will cool off, probably after the presidential election.

    Message: 52291
    Author: $ Jack Flash
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Taranto
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 22:53:20

    What's the story on the radio talk show?

    Message: 52292
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: In search of
    Subject: OUIJA
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 23:41:18

    The following is a transcript of a Ouija board session.  I normally wouldn't
    post this, but one of the answers given by the alleged spirit was 'Zap Your
    Dead', which, for those of you who don't know, is the termination phrase
    used on this system if and when Cliff logs a user off.

    Q: Is there anyone out there?
    A: Y E S
    Q: What is your name?
    A: Mandy
    Q: When were you born?
    A: 7 20 60
    Q: When did you die?
    A:  (after long pause)  0
    Q: How did you die?
    A:  ZAP YOUR DEAD
    Q: Do you know your mother's name?
    A: Agatha
    Q:Where are you now?
    A: Air

      When we asked for a sign, Mandy said "Wait N C tonight", she then told us
    to go look at the moon.  It was a new moon, thus not visible.  We then told
    Mandy to go to hell.  So to speak.

    Message: 52293
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Question?
    Subject: MARK ADKINS
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 00:19:53

         Whatever happened to Mark Adkins?  Maybe someone should call him and
    ask.

    Message: 52294
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: X Smoke = FAT?
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 01:02:53

            Ann, My uncle Bob did not get FAT after quitting the smoke habit, in
    fact he was fat and has lost a few pounds.  He also states the air smells
    better and the food tasts MUCH better.
            Tonight we went to Dairy Queen after seening the "Special Advance
    Preview" of Short Circuit II.  After sitting down at an outside table a lady
    walked up and sat at the next table....not to eat Ice Cream, but to smoke.
    It was so awfull, we got up and left the table area to eat on the other side
    of the parking lot.  A person can't even go out to enjoy Ice Cream without
    getting smoke blown in their face.  Do smokers realize what they do?  Bob
    told me you don't realize how rude (even if they don't realize it) smokers
    are till you quit smoking yourself.
            Smoking is not 'getting high on life', it's just a 'crutch'.
    It's nice to enjoy something to make oneself feel good, but not when you
    NEED it to make yourself feel good.

    Cliff

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            The US of A is losing millions of dollars per day by not
    legalizing
     drugs.  The system could be set up the same way as alcohol, the kids
    will
     still be able to get what they want but they can now.  At least this
    country
     would profit from the sale and not a foreign nation.
             I actually think that drug use will diminish if legalization
    occurs
     because it will take some of the mystic from it.  Alcohol is legal
    for me to
     purchase but I stay the hel away from it because I know what it does
    to me
     and I could buy heroin anytime I want but I have never had to urge
    to try
     it.  The same goes for 'crack', I know people who have used it and I
    am told that it give you a euphoric effect that last about 20 minutes
    per use and  that this effect is the greatest feeling one can
    experience but I have no  desire to try that either.
            I don't see how legalizing drugs will hurt this nation but
    will give some out of work farmers something to grow.  Our court
    systems will be  cleared up overnight and prisons will be nearly
    emptied out.  There would  still be penalities for those who 'drive
    under the influence', just as there is with alcohol.
            I honestly believe that with the legalization of marijuana
    that  alcohol abuse will diminish once people try it and compare.  I
    used to drink in the sixties and I was really getting into it but when
    I was given a  'joint', I quit drinking, totally.
            Perhaps some of the people in power does not want it to be
    legalized because the import and distribution is a part of their
    profits.
                                    Rod

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    Message: 1347
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Fun & Games
    Subject: ?
    Date: 05/21/88  Time: 15:03:30

    Did I forget to look or did something happen here?

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