### Apollo BBS Archive - May 15, 1991

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    Date: 05/14/91  Time: 18:48:25

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    It's "toe the line" not "tow the line."

    Thanks for plugging for more home construction.  The real
    kicker, especially in this neck of the woods, is the massive
    *surplus* of office space.  This situation holds the prices
    of individual homes (and rents) artificially high while
    holding business expenses (for those who can afford to lease
    office space) artificially low.  When I find empty offices
    at work, I sneak in and write on the whiteboard: "A homeless
    person could have been living here."  It usually stays on
    the board for a *long* time because nobody cares until
    somebody needs the office and nobody needs the office
    because of the glut.
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     1:I'm tired of being a human animal.  I want more freedom.  Flesh is shit.
     2:
     3:I guess I'll get my wish.  Wouldn't it be cool if we could drop our flesh
     4:and then go around as a form of energy and change things?
     5:
     6:Oh, fuck it.
     7:
     8:Nice chatting.
     9:
    10:Smoke some pot for the Pope.
    11:end

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    Mail to Dean Hathaway
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 02:31:57

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    Mail from Apro Poet
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 18:02:04

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    No, I don't believe we've ever met outside of Apollo.

    I've been meaning to tell you again ... You know you really
    have to be careful of using phrases like "advocating the
    violent overthrow of the United States."  This is a key
    phrase that incriminated a lot of people during the
    McCarthy witchhunts.  It's still regarded as sufficient
    grounds for a judge to authorize an FBI wire tap.  I know
    you're a peaceful guy so I assume you only mean it in a
    hypothetical sense.  I'd advise explicitly stating the
    hypothetical nature of all such statements in the future.
    It wouldn't hurt to keep hardcopies of these disclaimers in
    a safe place.  I may be paranoid but this is pretty cheap
    insurance for possible future trials.

    A safe alternative would be to quote the part of the
    Declaration of Independence that deals with overthrowing
    a tyranical government.
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     1:Thanks for the advice.  I will keep it in mind.  But you will notice that I
     2:didn't post "Adolph is back and he's hiding behind a Bush", did I?
     3:
     4:I am not trying to overthrow any government, just trying to change one of
     5:them.  Dean posts some good ideas on the subject.
     6:
     7:Thanks again.      Rod
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    Message: 26
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: About me!
    Subject: My Twilight zone...
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 20:58:24

    My condensed life to date is as such;
    Born in California, age 4 moved (hijacked) to Perth Western Australia with
    family. There we settled in to a somewhat different society where my
    brother and I were put through the Australian school system / society.
    Age 12; "Born again" at Baptist church through efforts of Boys Brigade.
    Age 15; Jaw broken in 5 places by gang; turning the other cheek stops here.
    Decide to learn how to protect self...start Kook Sool Won & Tae Kwon Do
    classes..6 nights a week for 3 years. AGE 16; Gangs stop picking on "yank".
    Learn to fly with flying doctor. Age 17; Pilots license & firearms license.
    (No 2nd ammendment over there). Work for Mundaring Shire Council at a place
    called Lake Laschenaultia as assistant to the Forestry ranger.
    Age 19; Moved from Perth W.A. to Phoenix , AZ. (Sigh, I'll miss that Lake.)
    Navy enlistment...qualified for Nuclear Submarine duty and so posted in
    Groton Connecticut. Write freelance for Boston Globe and Groton Navy times.
    Sink a few derelict diesels in North Atlantic, chase IVAN around in Mid
    Atlantic. Get busted two stripes for playing "joke" on Russian vessel.
    Age 25; Civilian life turns into suburban life and this boy gets married.
    Start job as Electronics Systems Technician at Sky Harbor Airport. (CITY).
    Short 3 yr tour with Army Guard. Save C.O.P  $2.5 million thru suggestion.
    Hobbies: Pyrotechnic arts, Ham radio, Marksmanship, Electronics,
    Cooking, Computer stuff, Cartooning and ultralight flying.
    LIKES:  Wife, people who shoot straight and *big* firecrackers.
    DISLIKES: Drunk drivers, sychophants, women politicians, let-downs.
    SUMMARY: A loveable but dangerous Born-again red-necked sexist super tech.

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    Message: 75156
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:10:13

    I'm sorry that you have such a low opinion of yourself Annie. God thinks a
    lot more highly of you than you do of yourself, apparently, because He has
    set you and established you (and me, and the rest of us. lest you feel TOO
    exclusive) above the rest of the world. It (they) are not only beneath us,
    they are our responsibility. Unfortunately, we have done a pretty miserable
    job of things, which is why God had to provide a means of escape for us from
    the burden of our sins. He did just that in the person and work of His Son,
    Jesus Christ, but that's a whole other story, isn't it? If you can't
    understand man's relationship to others and to this world, how can you ever
    understand our relationship to God? It ain't easy, but it's well worth the
    search.

    Message: 75157
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie/polls
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:13:53

     I would like to be some sort of invisible person in the room where those
    "polls" are conducted. Of course, you can always make a poll say anything
    you want it to say. It's not too difficult, for example, to find a poll that
    will be anti-Republican if you only poll the rolls of the Democratic party.
    Or slant an anti-candy poll at Weight Watchers.

    Message: 75158
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gordon/75135
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:19:38

     Unfortunately, Gordon, you are accepting the false premise that
    homosexuality is an unavoidable circumstance. It is a matter of choice, not
    birth. It is considered a sexual PREFERENCE, indicating choice. I know of
    former queers that have chosen to go "straight" and have done so,
    successfully and happily. The act of homosexuality is still a SIN. Again,
    may I suggest that you read ROmans, chapter 1.

    Message: 75159
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob T/75143
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:23:22

    99 and 9/10 % of the time, I simply consider the source and ignore the
    prattlings. They're not worth a response.

    Message: 75160
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Religion
    Subject: B.Dog/OT
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:29:42

    Lot may have OFFERED his daughters to the homosexuals at the door who were
    looking for the male angels, but it is never said that the offer was
    accepted. Queers don't have much use for members of the opposite sex when it
    comes to that sort of thing.
     And just where did you get all of your warped ideas about the Apostle Paul?
    It sounds like you've been reading some out-of-date Israeli National
    Enquirer or something. Apply all things in Scripture to the context in which
    they are found, and you'll get a totally different point of view. It's easy
    to tear words or statement out of context and make them mean almost
    anything. "Judas hanged himself. Go thou and do likewise." See what I mean?

    Message: 75161
    Author: Gene Walls
    Category: Politics
    Subject: non political atmosp
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 07:42:45

    This country would be better off without political parties.*
    A new system of broke candidates would be accepted by public*
    Living costs of candidate would be paid by government*
    No other resources to office holder would be allowed.*

    Message: 75162
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/Upload
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 07:48:16

    Yes, please do upload the "whole list of ... stupidity"

    Message: 75163
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/speck of decency
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 07:51:08

    If it hurts, perhaps your conscience it trying to tell you something. I
    addressed no one in particular --- if you feel that it was calling you a
    name, then you probably feel guilty about it. Why don't you talk to your
    clergyman or psychologist about it ?

    Message: 75164
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff on animals
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 09:50:43

    I still would not classify the homo sapians as unique above all others on
    our planet. All species could be called unique.

    The only thing that we are unique on is going against our nature all the
    time or trying to! In doing so, it probably makes us the most un-happiest
    species around.

    We could be called unique also by calling what is natural to our species a
    'sin' - like sex when puberty calls - maybe even homesexuality.

    Why have you labeled me negative because I don't particually see us as
    unique? Human's have many wonderful attributes that is uniquely their's, but
    so does the Capuchin monkey, the lowly cockroach and the black Rhino.

    Don't try to make me feel bad by comparing me to Rod. I go along with most
    of what he says and admire him for saying it! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75165
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Michael #75133
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 09:55:57

    Good point Michael - in that sense, dogs do indeed kill for territory. My
    point is, that is their nature - they are not going against it.
    We, as a species, I feel also are killers, but we call it 'war' and justify
    it - yet, on the other hand, we make it a sin to kill! But we have this
    great thinking brain and you'd of thought long before now we wouldn't have
    to kill anyone, but under these circomstances, we are no better or unique
    than the dog that kills for his territory. *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75166
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bobby on roll
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 09:58:37

    $49 mil for a rock and roll museum?? What a way to go! Now that's a good
    cause in my book! We might even get to see Elvis's guitar some day! :)
                              *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75167
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bobby on lust
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 09:59:44

    BUT - if it isn't a natural thing for some people (being homesexual) why
    would they 'lust' after the opposite sex? *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75168
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bobby on ducks
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 10:02:48

    Hey fellow! Don't go knocking the homosexual duck and saying it's a falicy
    --- I had one one time! He crippled 6 chickens (because he was so big) and
    two of those chickens were roosters too!! We also had four female ducks that
    he totally ignored. :) *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75169
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bobby on handles
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 10:04:06

    You can call me 'Peaches'! I've always wanted that nick name.
                       *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75170
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bobby on abom.
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 10:05:12

    An Abomination is an Abomination is an Abomination! Ditto the rose.
                         *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75171
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann on uniqueness
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 13:47:03

    I like your message. If we consider ourselves part of the earth living here
    with all the other animals and plants, then we will treat our environment
    differently than if we think we are the "unique" species and we can do what
    we want including cutting down 1000 year-old trees and killing rhinos for
    their horns and chopping down the rain-forest.

    Message: 75172
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Dean #75152
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 18:29:17

    Gee, that explains why management tells me that management's
    policy is to withhold advancement from those employees who
    do too *good* of a job ... not *despite* their doing too good
    of a job but *because* they've done too good of a job.

    It also explains why, when I indicate the similarities
    between such policies and the policies of a caste system,
    management responds with "There are no laws against caste
    systems." ... This from a "progressive" organization, mind
    you.

    The left hand is Government.  The right is Corporation.
    Woe be to we who stand between the hands as they applaud
    their mutual application of raw power.

    Message: 75173
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: On the Lighter Side
    Subject: Sex Ed
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 18:35:03

    Among the items the venerable Stanford University was
    accused of billing the federal government for recently in
    some expense account rigamarole (as uncovered by the General
    Accounting Office) were the enlarging of president Donald
    Kennedy's bed, the purchase of special sheets for the bed,
    and $6,000 to line his closet with cedar.  Kennedy stood by
    his interpretation that federal regulations permitted the
    expenses.

    Message: 75174
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Apro/promotion
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 20:08:51

    Management promotes in its own image.

    Message: 75175
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Appeal to Authority
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 20:10:02

    My major source is Bishop John Spong of the Episcopal church. I'd dare say
    he knows a fair bit more about context (not just of the text, but of the
    times) than you do.

    Message: 75176
    Author: $ Steve MacGregor
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Blondes
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 21:31:43

      Hey, do you know how to really make your blond girlfirend's eyes light up?

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    Message: 75177
    Author: $ Steve MacGregor
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Blondes
    Date: 05/15/91  Time: 21:32:31

      How?  Why, you shine a flashlight in her ear, of course!

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