### Apollo BBS Archive - August 9 - 15, 1988

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    Message: 3995
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 13:14:04

            Too bad, Peter P.

    By the looks of the blond you missed something ......

    Message: 3996
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Stats
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 13:15:29

            Now we have our modem back, I will finish uploading the rest of the
    Stats ........ so, all yous peoples out there who couldn't sleep at night
    wanting to know the rest of the story ..... well,  HANG IN THERE!

    Message: 3997
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Kars / Automotive
    Subject: License Plates
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 14:17:45

    How many of you dorks with sleek aerodynamic automobiles are still driving
    around with your FRONT license plate still bolted on?  If so...take it off,
    they are no longer needed.  Your car will look better and get better gas
    mileage (minor, but it adds up at high speed) with out it!  Besides, why
    advertise, numbers are killing our privacy.

    Nick?  Ann? .... Others?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 3998
    Author: $ Travis SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Hello
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 16:28:40

            I am new HELP!!!!!

    Message: 3999
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last....
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 18:24:55

    What or who is Travis SYSOP............ CLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFF
    Cliff Cliff cliff cliff.....??????????

    -Chris

    Message: 4000
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: Old Fart GT
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 18:30:54

    I personally think that it is discriminating to have an old fart GT.  What
    about us 'Kids' coming anyways...  What did we do to you old farts anyways?

    What about ten years from now when us 'KIDS' are running this country, and
    we decide that all old farts should be shot, by THEIR OWN ROBOT!  And then
    we just send the bodies up to space in the NASA Shuttle Columbia XXII...

    Then What are the OLD FARTS GOING TO DO!!!!!

    WELL...?????   ANY OLD FARTS CARE TO COMMENT?

    ANY 'Kids' want to help me out...?  Pat?

    -Chris

    Message: 4001
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last on Old Fart GT
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 19:05:18

            Okay, we then can have a "Diaper GT" for the rest of you Teeny
    Boppers...

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 4002
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 01:44:36

    I think I should probably leave my front plates on.  I'm pretty sure they're
    required in California, and I have California plates.
    You trying to get me in trouble?

    Message: 4003
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/License
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 02:09:40

    I'll give you $1 for you old front plate.

    Message: 4004
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: front plates
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 04:19:47

    I last had front license plates on my car in 1977, when it occurred to me
    that the cops used them to their advantage. I received two tickets in 11
    years for no front license plate. The first time, I lied to the cop and told
    him that the plate was stolen. He went on to tell me that lying to a police
    officer was a crime. He then wrote me the ticket. The second time, the cop
    asked me why I didn't have a front plate, and I told him "because I don't
    like them." He then wrote me a ticket.

    Message: 4005
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Nicky/last
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 06:02:15

    That was because they were still required, silly!
     The legislature passed a resolution just a couple of weeks ago that dropped
    the requirement, so you may now remove your front plate with immunity. Go
    for it!

    Message: 4006
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Writers Cramp
    Subject: Chris Neal
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 06:04:41

    Stop whining, brat!
    If we old farts want to get together, it's none of your darn business!
    Maybe we just want to indulge ourselves in something more substantive than
    your inane dribble for a change!
    (smile, Chris. I'm only fooling!)

    Message: 4007
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/plates
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 08:25:38

    On the front of my car I have a special plate - it's not a real one, just
    looks like it and it says 'Zoltan' - which is the name of my car. I got
    stopped before the law went into effect for having two different plates. He
    could not write me a ticket because my car is a salvage job and as long as I
    had the messed up plate in the car (It was in the trunk) they cound not give
    me a ticket. I felt very smug that day! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4008
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/GT
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 08:26:14

    I volunteer to be 'chief diaper changer'!! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4009
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Plates
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 10:48:20

      When I bought my Jeep it had no front license plate and I have been
    driving it that way ever since with no problems. I guess it is just so
    impressive that cops forget to check for the missing plate.
      See you later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 4010
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Plates
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 11:53:14

            When I first moved to Arizona I drove apx. 1 year before I got
    stopped for not having any license plates on my pickup ..........
            I was advised to put some on ........
            No ticket ..........

            See what happens when you look mean .........

    Message: 4011
    Author: $ Travis SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Chris
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 12:26:55

            I am the SON of a SYSOP ...............

    Message: 4012
    Author: $ Steven Carls
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Plates
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 13:30:18

    My front plate is off as of yesteray.  I am keeping it in the car in case
    the Gov't decides to change the law, EH???
    Thanks Cliff for the advice, EH???
     " The ATARI WILDCAT "  Steven Carls

    Message: 4014
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Plates
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 18:41:22

    When I bought my current car, I drove around for about three months before
    bothering to put my license plates on, and never got stopped.  I also have
    generally not used a front plate because I was too busy,and have never been
    bothered about it.

    Message: 4015
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Kill the pigs
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 18:46:19

    Last night I left work and across the street I saw a hysterical woman
    surrounded by three or four cops.  She was yelling at them, "I want to go
    home to my child!" and "Why don't you leave me alone?"  I guessed she was
    either high on drugs or insane.  I watched for a while, and asked another
    spectator (10 people or so gathered on my side of the street) what was
    happening.  It turned out this lady was being given a ticket for riding her
    bicycle through a red light, though according to one witness she had crossed
    the street legally.  She continued arguing with the cops, and more showed
    up:  at one point there were two motorcycles, two regular police cars, and
    one unmarked car.  Finally she was given a ticket and the cops left and she
    crossed the street.  She asked if anyone had a camera, and as it happened, I
    had one up in my office.  She wanted me to take some pictures of her bloody
    hand, which had been wounded when the officer yanked her arm and cut her
    finger on her bike.  I told her to get to a hospital and have it checked
    out, and to call her lawyer as soon as possible.

    These are Capitol Police, incidentally, so your tax dollars are paying for
    them.  I just thought you'd like to know that your money is being
    well-spent.

    Message: 4016
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: plates
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 06:09:17

    I recently purchased a travel trailer in Prescott from an individual who had
    it titled in California. He removed the Ca. plates so he could return them,
    and I pulled the trailer to Phoenix with no plate at all.
    I was not stopped. Lucky me!

    Message: 4017
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Capitol cops
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 06:11:57

    Isn't it wonderful that they have all the gangs and pushers under control
    now, so that they can spend their time on the really important things, like
    harrassing little ladies for jaywalking?
    The last I heard, it's a wonder they didn't take her into protective
    custody, since it's not really safe to walk the streets of D.C. alone.

    Message: 4018
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 14:34:25

    Sounds like it's a toss-up between the danger of being alone with the
    criminals, or being with the cops.
    Visitors from other countries (especially Japan) are shocked that the
    streets of our capitol city are not safe.

    Message: 4019
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Burkhart
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 17:08:15

    Capital city.  "Capitol" refers only to the building.

    Message: 4020
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Savage
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 17:09:02

    She wasn't jaywalking.  Jaywalking is apparently legal in D.C.  She was
    accused of running a red light on her bicycle.  A friend of mine at work put
    it in perspective.  "At least," he said, "that woman wasn't out raping or
    killing anyone during that time."

    Message: 4021
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 20:39:19

    Yes SIR!

    -Chris

    Message: 4022
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann/Diaper G.T.
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 20:39:47

    You can change my diaper for a ride in your car...

    -Chris

    Message: 4023
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Travis SYSOP
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 20:40:47

    Is your dad as mean to you as he is to us?  Just wondering...  Can he ZAP!
    you?

    -Chris

    Message: 4024
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Chris/diaper
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:30:56

    Sure! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4025
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Travis Sysop
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:33:25

    It's been enjoyable having you come swimming at my house. Also your little
    brother. You two are real good kids - almost too good! Arn't you brats at
    least sometimes? Come on - fess up! See your thursday - =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4026
    Author: $ Travis SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: chris
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 13:27:19

            He has not been mean to me yet. I do not know if he can ZAP!!!!!!!
    me or not.

    Message: 4027
    Author: $ Travis SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 15:04:16

    There is nothing to fess up.

    We are good, we are very good,  we are the best.

    Message: 4028
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 16:12:30

            That's my boy!

    Message: 4029
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: SYSOP Travis
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 21:47:32

    Something tells me that SANDY SYSOP was standing behind you when you put in
    those last messages....
     HEHEHEHEEEE......

    -------------=============*******>CHRIS<*******=============-------------

    Message: 4030
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 23:14:13

    Probably with a switch in her hand too.

    Message: 4031
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: JT/Capital
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 01:02:53

    I was pretty sure it was "capital," but in message 4015 (your first message
    on the subject), you spelled it "Capitol" when you said "These are Capitol
    Police."  Or does the building have its own cops?

    Message: 4032
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 02:02:34

    I think they do.

    Message: 4033
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Burkhart
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 05:45:01

    The Capitol Police have jurisdiction in and around the Capitol.

    Message: 4034
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Capitol Police
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 18:40:41

    I think having the Capitol Police police the Capitol is a capital idea!

                                    The invisible spelling checker
                                               strikes!

                                                          Gary

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    Message: 943
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 02:16:03

    Did that statement come directly from the man himself?

    Message: 944
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 04:15:40

    No, she meant she loves JT.  She felt she could finally let her feelings out
    on this SIG, since JT isn't a member.

    (Now, was that creative or what?)

    Message: 945
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: David - love JT?
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 08:09:48

    Sure I love him. I love everybody! Even my dog. Ta ta. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 946
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 10:25:45

    Can we watch?

    Message: 947
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 13:38:44

    Are you old enough?

    Message: 948
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 14:20:50

    21, babe.

    Message: 949
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 19:43:06

    Big deal.  Backwards, you're only 12.

    Message: 950
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 08:27:38

    You are filthy Daryl Westfall! (wink) =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 951
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 16:14:58

            You did not answer his question ..........

    Message: 952
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Sandy/last
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 07:55:22

    I forgot the question! =*--ANN--*=

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    Message: 711
    Author: $ Steven Carls
    Category: In search of
    Subject: MIDI/Music program
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 21:58:09

    Does anyone know of a good Midi Music program, EH???  I will be getting a
    decent keyboard soon and I want to use it inconjunction with my ATARI ST,
    EH???  I was wondering if anyone has this set up at home, and I would like
    to hear what you think of your set up, EH???  Please send me mail, because I
    do not know when I will be able to use this BBS again, EH???  I leave for
    the great dirty South, Tucson, sat the 13, EH???  I would appreciate any
    feedback, and thanks, EH???
     " The ATARI WILDCAT "  Steven Carls

    Message: 712
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: MIDI
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 23:16:11

    I use Music Studio and a Casio keyboard.  It works pretty well.  If you had
    shown up at the GT at Cliff's house you would have seen it.

    Music Studio is pretty good, but it all depends what keyboard and what
    features you want.  Are you using it for sequencing or composing?

    Message: 713
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: The SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: GT/Music...
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 00:05:57

            How about a GT for the Atari ST users at my house soon?
    Show off the Synthesizer and software....  Do we have enough ST users here
    to make it worth while?

            P.S.  Message for A-L-A-N....  Probably have your ST power supply
    fixed Saturday.   Do you want me to call you?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 714
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last...
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 13:45:55

        No, Cliff, that won't be necessary.

        (Cliff, of course, knew that I couldn't log in and see that last message
    until I got my ST back.  Humph!!)

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    Message: 1748
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 21:47:59

    Poor Zak!

    Message: 1749
    Author: $ Rod Bias
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Ann Oudin
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 01:45:41

    Your printer will probably under line -- if you tell it too.  You have to
    have a program (driver) that will underline.  Have you ever seen anything
    underlined on Apollo?  No!  Why not?  This program will not support it.
    Your problem (with underlining that is) should be taken up on MS- SIG.
                                 Rod Bias

    Message: 1750
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Rod B./Printer
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 08:11:35

    I tell my printer lots of things! It doesn't obey me much! I also call it
    lots of things too. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 1751
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 02:11:25

    Did you say the "P" word to your printer?  Never hurts.

    Message: 1752
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: James.last
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 08:28:39

    Pardon me if I seem nieve, but what IS the 'P' word! =*--ANNIE the ASSp--*=

    Message: 1753
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 13:59:05

    Please.

    Message: 1754
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: last...
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 16:12:05

    Computers and peripherals donot respond to verbal pleas nor do they
    understand flying the bird, idle threats or users throwing temper tantrums
    at them.
    They do, however, respond to physical abuse in a very negative way.
    Failing all else, satisfaction can be derived from a stubborn unit using
    an un-fused 30 AMP power supply connected backwards.

     -Mike

    Message: 1755
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: Hey, Ann.......
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 21:12:54

    In the status sig there's a certain dialog going on concerning you
    changing someone's diapers.  Don't know just how you're going to get
    your jollies doing that, but here's a counter offer.  You change mine
    (will jockey shorts substitute?) and I'll be glad to change yours in
    exchange!

    The last time anyone checked, I was certified anatomically correct, so
    if its a quick peek you want, I'm available.  And, I'm as interested as
    any male you ever met along the lines of "you show me yours, and I'll
    show you mine!  Hmmmmmmmm?
                                         Not-so-invisible
                                                Gary

    Message: 1756
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 02:51:54

    Are you serious?

    Message: 1757
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Nick.last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:36:10

    There you go again Nick - insulting me! (I think?) If you don't watch out, I
    will REALLY tell GAry what your like! =*--ANNIE THE FANNY--*=

    Message: 1758
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: And you Gary!
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:38:27

    Listen - one of the stipulations of me 'showing mine' to you is - you must
    send me a picture of 'your's or at least a drawing on this sig. to give me a
    good idea ......! All the rest of the guys have done so - it's your turn!
    =*--ANNIE THE FANNY--*=

    Message: 1759
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Is it like .....?
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:42:28

                   ______________
                  /_             l
                  \______________l   This?
                                OO

              <--------     Or this?
                     OO

              ________________________________________________
             /                                               l
            /                                                l
           /____                                             l
           \                                                 l
            \                                                l
             \_______________________________________________l
                                                          O O
               Or (hopefully) like this Gary?

    Message: 1760
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliffy dear
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:44:50

    Please forgive me for drawing penises again! It's Gary's fault. He brought
    it on - another attack! Father Nick! I need to confess again! =*--ANNIE THE
    FANNY--*=

    Message: 1761
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Gary again
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:48:20

    Nick is Apollo's 'Father Sarduchi'! He hears all confessions and will give
    you absolution of your sins. This way, we are all pure and sinless!
    =*--ANN--*=
    P.S. The reason you think this board is mild - is because Rod is gone on
    vacation! When he gets back, all hell will break lose. In the mean time, you
    seem to be fitting right in fellow.

    Message: 1763
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: mine & yours
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 15:55:42

    Well, Ann, you asked for it.
    I'm not much of an artiste with the ol'
    keyboard, but after due reflection and
    introspection, this is a fair representation     __________
    of the Jones family jewels.                     /
                                                   /
                                                  /      ______
                                                 /      /   OO
    I think the matter can be stated thus:      /      /
    At my age it doesn't get hard anymore       |      |
    so much as it gets fat.                     |      |
                                                |      |
                                                |______|
                                                 \     /
                                                  \_|_/

    Sufficient?  Now do you show me yours?
                                         Gary

    Message: 1764
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 16:39:12

    Beware. Ann has multiple boxes.

    Message: 1765
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Gary
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 23:18:13

    You can't be real.  You're too funny.

    Message: 1766
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Gary/your penis
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 08:09:07

    No, sorry. That won't do. It's looking at the floor! Everyone on this board
    knows I like them 'rocket like' - long, sleek, with powful thrust that can
    go off at anytime! Now James Wawley has a rocket that I've seen shoot off!
    WOW! It was impressive. Cliff had a smaller version that day, but it
    couldn't be 'charged' properly so he didn't even attempt a blast off. But
    according to Sandy, it is very impressive when it does! However - that was a
    fairly good drawing and I want to encourage you to draw on the art sig.
    BUT please don't attempt one on that subject or you'll end up in the 'ZONE'
    quick. Nick is right - I do have multible boxes. Heh heh heh. =*--ANNIE THE
    FANNY--*=
    P.S. Wouldn't it be nice if you knew what we were talking about on this sig?
    P.P.S. I do appriciate your offer however!

    Message: 1767
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:48:44

    You're mean.  You're very mean.

    Message: 1768
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:48:58

    Let's lynch him!

    Message: 1769
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: All
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:49:18

    Help me scroll this base before Rod comes home!  Thanks!

    Message: 1770
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: vertical messages
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:51:00

    Anyway,
    so Cliff thinks he's CLEVER?
    SO WRONG, Cliff!
    Here's a message for the BIG MEAN SYSOP!
    OOOOOH, it's N-A-S-T-Y...
    Looks like one of those vertical messages...
    EEK.  It IS a vertical message!

    Message: 1771
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:51:50

    That Beatles song, 'The Fool On the Hill'.  It's about YOU.

    Message: 1772
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: chit chat
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:52:10

    Blah blah blah.  Babble babble babble.

    Message: 1773
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: scroll
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:53:24

    OK, everyone, now REMEMBER.  Help me scroll this base!  I am counting on
    YOU, Ann Oudin!  And on YOU, James Taranto!  And YOU, Nick Ianuzzi!  And YOU
    James Hawley!  And YOU, Jim Lippard!

    Let's show that APOLLO SEYESAP who's boss.

    Message: 1774
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:54:02

    You'll be sorry.  You'll BE SORRY!

    Ha!

    Message: 1775
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Up Yours
    Subject: Apollo People
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:54:36

    I'm going to be gone in a week, so save your comments about what a geek I am
    for then.

    Message: 1776
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Re-BuTTal
    Subject: Azzhore!
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:55:30

    Cliff, why did you capitalize the two Ts in "rebuttal"?  Rebuttal is spelled
    with two Ts ANYWAY.  Look it up.

    Message: 1777
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Mike Farter
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 15:55:52

    Eat poop, you slimeball.

    Message: 1778
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: ec
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 16:24:24

    Remember, the magic letters are "EC".  Type them often.

    Message: 1779
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: scroll
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 16:25:24

    This message base can only hold 50 messages.  So if just four of you type in
    ten short messages each, I'll be in the clear.  Thanks.

    Message: 1780
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Apro Poet
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 16:26:42

    Has anyone else noticed that Apro Poet and Beauregard Dog both disappeared
    from this system at the same time?  They must be the same person.

    Message: 1781
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Biggest Schitter
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 16:27:01

    Probably Ann Oudin.

    Message: 1782
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: last one
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 16:28:24

    I apollogize for writing so much nonsense on this sig.

    Message: 1783
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Apro and Beau
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 16:42:10

    They aren't the same person.  Beau will be back by Monday--he is
    motorcycling through California.

    Message: 1784
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: the SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: Zak/Way Below Normal
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 17:00:52

    Cliff, get real.  I have incredible wit and you know it, you twit.  So eat
    sh*t.  Ann baby, the "flooded parking lot" you claimed to see was just a
    puddle.  I got the blonde so excited that she peed her pants.  I guess I
    just do that to women.  It's very annoying.  As for Rod, he's such a dork.
    Let's put tranquilizers in his Gatorade, and shave off his beard and
    eyebrows.  Let's shave his whole damned head.  Then we'll put him in some of
    Jasmine's clothes, put toothpaste on his face and leave him in some bustling
    metropolitan center of activity.  Let's also tattoo "Mary Magdelene" on his
    chest, that is after we shave it with month-old razors.  Hell, let's
    tranquilize the whole damned family and send them to Washington D.C.  Then,
    while they stay at JT's domicile, we'll clean the house and redecorate in
    MINT and MAUVE scheme.  We'll replace Rod's "Thank God I'm An Atheist" war-
    drobe with Calvin Klein SPORT apparel and get Jasmine some cute lingerie.
    send the kids to private schools where they have to wear the same thing
    every day and answer to threatening authority figures.  Meanwhile, Rod will
    adopt Cliff and Sandy's children so the two SYSOPs can spend a
    pleasure-filled vacation off the coast of Tiajuana.  Then they'll go to
    glorious L.A. where Cliff will be a contestant on Wheel of Fortune and Sandy
    a contestant on Jeopardy.  It will be a special day indeed.  All proceeds
    from Cliff and Sandy's winnings will go toward the improvement of Apollo.
    Extra phone lines will be added with a special on-line "chat" feature. That
    way the SYSOP's kids can show off all the nasty words Rod teaches 'em.
    I will erase this message before Rod arrives. <- So Zak thinks.... ha ha ha
    Note: The above post by Zak is from the Way Below Normal SIG

    Message: 1785
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last/Zak
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 17:05:03

            Whoops, Looks like I pressed the wrong button!

                    Sorry

    He he he

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 1786
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Zakey Baby
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 17:31:52

    Lets face it honey - you havn't got a chance! But nice try though. Ta ta.
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 1787
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: James Hawley
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 19:44:07

    Funny?

        No!  I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be;
        Am an attendant lord, one that will do
        To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
        Advise the prince;  no doubt, an easy tool,
        Deferential, glad to be of use,
        Politic, cautious, and meticulous;
        Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;
        At times, indeed, almost ridiculous -
        Almost, at times, the Fool.
                                       T.S. Eliot

    Message: 1788
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Ann- mine & yours
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 19:46:12

    Is this what you have in mind?

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    Message: 1789
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Ann - more
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 19:47:45

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    Message: 1790
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Ann - and more
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 19:48:54

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    Message: 1791
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Ann - still more..
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 19:50:10

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    Note: Purely wishful thinking on my part!

    Message: 1792
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Ann - however...
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 19:53:17

    Sorry, Ann, but this                            wimp
    is more realistic:
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    (I don't think that it's right                  /
    that it should point at the                    /
    ground, either.  Any suggestions              /      ______
    to cause it to reverse direction?            /      /   OO
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                                  I don't wike it wimp, either!
    Gary

    Message: 1793
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Gary/penis
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 10:54:15

    Yes Gary - that is quite impressive! Well - you've shown me yours, so it's
    my turn ....

                                    ()

    Message: 1794
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Doodle?
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 11:29:18

                                ((()))
                             ((((())))))
                           ((((  o o  ))))
                          )))))   +   (((((
                           (((((  -  )))))
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    This IS NOT Ann Oudin - this IS NOT Sandy Sysop - it's Santa peeking
    over a fence and has a tassel on his cap!

    Message: 1795
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 12:14:30

    Oh well, I guess wanting to keep Rod from seeing my libelous messages is
    just too much to ask.

    Message: 1796
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Gary Jones
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 18:44:05

    Try a transplant, They work wonders.
    There are two kinds, one you punp up , and the other
    You can bend up or down.
    Perhaps it will go around a corner. I haven't tried.

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     1:        Hi, Zak, I guess this is all out war.....boy are you in trouble.
     2:Don't forget I am a locksmith and any lock you have won't help you much.  I
     3:also have a key to your Datsun.  Tucson isn't far enough, I suggest
     4:Berkerly, that way I can mix my business with pleasure.
     5:                                Rod
     6:end

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    Message: 1798
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Ann - mine & yours
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 21:36:45

    That's the story of my life.  Get all dressed up, and find I've
    got noplace to go.

    I mean, I've heard from the big boys about getting a little, but I
    never realized how little a little was!

    It reminds me of my military days.  We'd spend weeks at sea, and
    get all fired up about all the honey's we were going to meet.
    It didn't take any time at all to get caught up.

    Message: 1799
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: Inflatable penis
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 21:42:43

    Ralph-

    The mind boggles.

    Inflatable??

    I suppose one could either pump it up by hand, or have it blown up?

    Oh well, guess I'd better keep what I've got.

    Remember the old limerick?

        There once was a man from Kent
        Whose prick was exceedingly bent.
        He ran into trouble
        When he stuck in double,
        And instead of coming, he went.

    Old and corny, I know, but all I could think of on the spur of the moment.

                                                     Gary

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     1:        How can moments have 'spurs'?  Time does not exist.
     2:end

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    Message: 53602
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Milk, etc
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 20:49:11

    Errata:  Sorry 'bout misspelling "Neromancer."  I had the book
    lying right here on the desk when I wrote that.  My computer
    don't spel tu gud.

    I can't get terribly interested in the great milk controversy.  I
    haven't touched the stuff for years.  A couple of years ago we
    had a real war on Apollo BBS during the great Coke/Pepsi Taste
    Test.  I got a whole lot more excited about that!

    As for a political lie contest, aren't you sick of all that on
    the teevee and the mighty media?  If you're going to lie, lets
    tell big ones about the one that got away, or how fast your car
    is, or some other "good ol' boy" (or gal) garbage.  Let's keep on
    raving about how politically savvy Amsterdam is.  At least no one
    here will be able to check up on your veracity.

    Remember a few years back when it was Sweden that everyone was so
    enamored of?  Then the Palme government got caught with its
    fingers in the cookie jar, and the great Scandinavian Welfare
    State went bankrupt, and it all fell apart.

    Message: 53603
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: more.....
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 20:49:51

    And here the miserable old US of A keeps klunking along, pleasing
    51% of the people 51% of the time, and now it's the Beautiful,
    Wonderful, Lovely, Enlightened Netherlands that's going to show
    us benighted heathen the way to health and moral superiority.

    Aw c'mon!  Just because a country has public pissoirs doesn't
    make it heaven on earth.  The Japanese have been sharing public
    street corner restrooms (coed) for years and they are death on
    grass and coke.  There has to be a better standard for
    enlightenment.

    'nuff said for now.

                                "the invisible Gary Jones"

    Message: 53604
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/GJ
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 21:52:59

    You must be going blind.  You been stroking your THANG too much?

    Message: 53605
    Author: Dan Deacon
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 03:40:21

    James, you're sick.

    JT: I can't see you, so don't pretend to be there... ok?

    Dean:  Re:TRS equip...    YOU'RE SICKER!!!  (ahahahahah)

    Rod:  "Havagoodone!"

    RestUVyou--        " NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEXT!!!! "

    Message: 53606
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Reagan's tax cuts
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 04:26:27

    Taranto already pointed out that the amount of taxes paid by the rich went
    up after the tax cuts.  They also carried a bigger percentage of the tax
    burden (however, the percent of their income going to taxes was less).
    Alan, corporate income taxes shouldn't exist.  They are double taxed, first
    as corporate profits, then as dividends or salaries.  Taxing corporations is
    silly, and it is wounding the golden goose.

    Message: 53607
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: public urinals
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 04:54:21

    Public urinals were common in Paris as long ago as the 1920s.

    Message: 53608
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: For sale
    Subject: Travel Trailer
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 05:57:53

    1973 Kenskill 25 ft. travel trailer for sale.
    Fully self-contained. Double axle with 4 nearly new tires.
    Clean and in good shape.
    Asking $3000.
    If you are interested, leave me mail.

    Message: 53610
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Taxes
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 07:31:48

      Yes, I can read the tax tables.  I can also read Schedules A, B, C, D,
    etc.  I will go dig up some figures.

      I do agree on corporate taxes.  Since they just pass on the increases to
    the customers, or cut worker's salaries to make up for it (rather than
    cutting dividends or executive salaries) I agree that corporate income taxes
    are useless.
      My feeling is that taxes should hurt everyone equaly.  If paying my tax
    bill make me run the risk of bankruptcy, a person making $1 million should
    also have his solvency threatened by *his* tax bill.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 53611
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff on Gary
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 08:07:56

    Thanks Cliff. I did find out Gary was a real live person this AM with a post
    from him. He doesn't sound like anyone else here, so I assume he's a
    bonified human. Ha. Hope he sticks around. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53612
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gary
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 09:13:01

    Yes you are living in a world of fiction
    Wake up you might find the real world
    is not fiction

    Message: 53613
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: rod
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 09:17:31

    Rod I agree milk is bad, but women are not going to give milk
    for humen consumption. Would you like you'r wife run into a barn and milked?
    Just so humens can have what is the true food.

    Message: 53614
    Author: Elbow Poet
    Category: Religion
    Subject: new age
    Date: 0

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     1:        The human animal (you and me) should have been weened around the age
     2:of one, give or take several months.  Why do you think we humans need MILK?
     3:It causes mucous, most of the milk lays in our intestines and ROTS.
     4:        Weren't you weaned properly?
     5:                                Rod
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    Message: 53614
    Author: Elbow Poet
    Category: Religion
    Subject: new age
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 19:59:12

    New Age Mysticism doesn't seem to provide the warm fuzzy feelings of
    traditional religions.  Is it that the fun of being part of a cult is
    appealing?  Does one immediately get girls and so on?  Some have accused
    atheists of hating God.  Well, I don't hate God or Ramtha, or the Yeti.
    It's just that I won't pretend that I believe in their existence.  I've been
    pretty stubborn in this regard.  I rarely pretend that a girl fascinates me,
    or that I "love" her in order to get into her pants, and frankly I don't "do
    as well" as some guys I know who do.  But, I do pretty well, and I feel that
    I have had much better and longer relationships without the bullshit.  And
    it makes things so much easier - Again, as Twain said, "When you tell the
    truth you don't have to remember anaything.  However, this could all go out
    the window if Raquel Welch asked me what sign I am.

    Message: 53615
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: A special day!
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 21:30:36

    Today is a special day.  It's August 9, 1988.  That's 8-9-88.  There won't
    be another day like it until 9-10-99.  I hope none of us has died a violent
    death by then.

    Message: 53616
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: taxes
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 21:48:02

    I couldn't agree more with Alan Hamilton on taxes.  It seems like
    taxes, in order to be equitable, should penalize everyone to the
    same degree.  To tell someone living at subsistance wage that
    it's fair to confiscate 15% of his income, and then let some one
    else off the hook because he's got enough to invest in tax exempt
    bonds is the heighth of unfainess.

    Before somebody jumps on me about fairness, let me say that I
    don't really expect fairness from government.  It's an ideal to
    work for, but life hasn't been exactly fair to anyone yet.  In
    addition to inherited wealth and property, it seems that humans
    are also prone to inherit poor health, and of course, no
    government has yet figured out a way to have us all born with
    well-off parents.

    Since life isn't fair, I guess we got to enjoy what we do have,
    and keep on looking out for number one.  If there's a little left
    to spread around after that, it would be nice if we got the
    opportunity to pick the way it gets spread around.  Fat chance!

    Nobody promised you a rose garden.......

    Message: 53617
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Fiction
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 21:49:07

    Observations:
         Some people seem to get their jollies hassling others.
    Others seem to live a life of continual confrontation.  Every
    breath appears to be a battle.  They don't seem to be able to
    cross the street without having to yell obscenities at someone,
    or drive down the road without having to flip the bird at someone
    else.

    I've no use for people like that.  I don't go out of my way to
    mix with them, and as far as I'm concerned, their lives are a
    constant work of fiction.  Life doesn't need to be full of angry
    pushing and shoving.

    There's as much beauty in a sunset or a quiet moment as there is
    ugliness in a person who hasn't learned to live with the others
    on this planet.  Too bad, guys, you're missing so much, in your
    effort to play the macho bad a$$.  Give us all a break, and go
    work off your tensions making the world easier place for everyone
    to live in.

    Message: 53618
    Author: Andy Shell
    Category: For sale
    Subject: COMP
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 22:48:38

    FOR SALE,A COCOII WITH CASSETTE DRIVE.LOTS OF PRGS.AND MODEM WITH
    SOFTWARE.300 BUAD.ALSO COMMODORE 64 ONLY A FEW HOURS ON.NEED TO SALE FOR
    MONEY.WITH MODEM (300 BUAD)  AND SOFTWARE FORCALL ME AT 439-5634.ASK FOR
    ANDY.THANX.
    ANDY.

    Message: 53619
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Westfall/Pres.
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 23:15:06

      After seeing message 53576 I have to admit that JT has been right about
    you all along.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 53620
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Ann/Pres.
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 23:26:15

      If you want blind faith to decide who heads your government then move
    to a monarchy. A democratic republic functions because its citizens make an
    informed choice in elections. Disregarding policies, experience, and past
    achievement when voting is worse than not voting. At least if you left the
    voting to people who had given some thought to what they were doing the
    result would be what someone really wanted. Doing it your way you just
    bumble on year after year throwing away your chance to vote in your own
    behalf and then wonder why the result did not match your (undefined)
    expectations.
       See You Later
          Dean H.
    p.s.(Was your earlier decision to vote Libertarian this year made by
    comparing their platform to your beliefs, or were you under the impression
    that Ron Paul is younger than all the other candidates?)

    Message: 53621
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Your Nerdness JT
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 00:27:34

            Hey Nerd, the 8/8/88 was just a novelty date with all the numbers
    being the same.  This would be noticable by most normal people, but for you
    we will spell it out.  Geesh!
            The Number 8 is also a power money number and Vegas was really busy.
    But if you really get down into the Numbers game on dates, it was really a
    number 6 day.  I am sure this is way over your head your Nurdness

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53622
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: speaking of...
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 04:13:09

    Speaking of novelty dates, the last few dates that I've been on have been
    pretty novel.

    Message: 53623
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Dean/voting
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 08:17:36

    I agree that our way of voting is the best in the world. However, voting
    with 'informed choices' sounds nice, but I still say for the most part, is
    voting for the lessor of two evils! Most politicians are not for the people
    or our nation, but for themselves. To them, it's a super job with power! Be
    informed all you want, but I doubt the next president will be anything
    special. If he does turn out to be so, then I will get on the band wagon and
    try to get him voted in again! I do vote - mainly write in's. This year it
    will be libertarian. NOT because he's young, but because I would like to see
    a few Libertarian ideas seep into our government is all.
    What is your problem with the idea of a young president? We are constantly
    voting for the aged because of their supposed experience. Experience yes -
    but in the art of politics! We need new blood-  inovative people that will
    change things, not keep them the same or make them worse. People that are
    genuinely interested in a better America, not their careers! Along comes
    Michael Dukakis - a young, seemingly genuine - and who does he get for his
    running mate? Bentson! An aged politician with a plastic face that
    appears to have loads of charisma. His lips are pucked from kissing so many
    babies over the years! He's an actor of the first class - just like Reagan!
    This guy could concievablly be the president some day. I'll bet his smile
    does not disappear when he goes to bed! Ugh! What fare we are being
    provided! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53624
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Apro Poet?
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 10:04:06

            Oh where, Oh where has poor Apro Poet gone?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53625
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 11:03:55

      I have no problem whatsoever with a young President. I do have a problem
    with the substitution of meaningless garbage like 'genuine' and 'new ideas'
    for policies. When you apply the DuTaxUs formula to current conditions the
    only possible result is disaster. Before you go around telling us to vote
    for someone look at what he has done in the past and would do in the future.
      Aside from being an economic disaster, Dukakis would also do everything in
    his power to destroy your right to own a firearm and load his administration
    and the courts with like minded statists.
      Pay attention to ideology, not cosmetics. If self government fails and
    departs from the planet it will be because of people who value any `new
    idea` regardless of whether its really new, or an idea, or good, or bad.
      See You Later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 53626
    Author: Jeannie Innajug
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Teleputer BBS
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 12:56:59

    Please pass the word that Teleputer BBS is no longer in operation at
    the phone number listed in the Apollo "Other Systems" listing.

    That number is a private number and the owner is being driven out of his
    mind by modems accessing his phone line at all hours of the day and
    night.

    Message: 53627
    Author: Jeannie Innajug
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: dates/Nick
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 15:07:01

    Hey, Nickie....You think your dates have been novelties.

    The last few creeps I went out with could have auditioned for the
    bar scene in Star wars.

    Not looking for love here, but Wow! what a bunch of macho names!
    Looks like Ms Little Annie Fannie is the only she-male regular on the
    board.

    Hi, guys!

    Mmmmmm!

    Jeannie (nickname later, if y'aa are nice to l'il ol' Jeannie)

    Message: 53628
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Special day
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 18:37:58

    Today is August 10, 1988.  That's 8-10-88.  We won't have another date
    matching that pattern (x-x+2-1900+11x) until September 12, 1999.

    Message: 53629
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 18:38:23

    Lloyd Bentsen has charisma?

    Message: 53630
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Jones/53617
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 18:38:46

    Amen to that, brother!

    Message: 53631
    Author: Andy Schell
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: HI
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 19:55:47

     Hello ya all. I'm Andy Schell
    and I'm new user of this board!  I would like to get involved,
    later,
    ANDY

    Message: 53632
    Author: Jeannie Innajug
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Adult BBS
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 09:07:11

    I got back on the air after a 6 month "vacation" in Seattle, and find
    that my favorite adult BBS, Teleputer, is missing.  Anyone know of
    another one where the talk can get "fun" without getting too rank?

    How about Apollo?  Do you guys ever have any fun?  I don't mean "down
    and dirty," but do you ever let your hair down and really get to know
    each other?

    See Y'aa!

    Jeannie

    Message: 53633
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 09:22:40

    No, all we ever do is bicker.

    Message: 53634
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dean/Ducaca
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 10:14:11

    Where on earth did you get the idea I was going to vote for Dukakis? Not so.
    I'm going to vote Libertarian - if they are not on the ticket - then I will
    write it in. I only mentioned that he was young(ish). What is your problem
    with the word 'genuine'? I used that particular word to discribe politicians
    that are for the people more than their careers. Few and far between, but
    they are out there ---- somewhere. I felt that Kennedy was. I know I will
    get opposition there, but that is my feelings. Carter probablly was, but he
    was unsophisticated and was made to look like a fool by the press. Even
    Truman was, but I certainly do not agree with all of his policies. F.
    Roosevelt definately was. The latter and Kennedy were idolized by the people
    and they felt safe/safer having people like that running this country. Will
    you feel safe having Dukakis or Bush in the Oval office? Will you have
    confidence in either? That is the point I was trying to make - not vote for
    someone that is young or charismatic. That helps only to get their foot in
    the door. See you. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53635
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT/Bentson
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 10:21:03

    He has political charisma is what I meant. He oozes confidence and charm -
    that smile could light up a room. He has a good sized following and seems to
    be very well liked. He's been in politics for years. That's his career and
    he puts on a good show of it. He was chosen (this is my opinion only) to off
    set Dukakis's lack of charisma and youthfulness. Dukakis will get millions
    of votes because Bentson is his running mate. So you won't get the wrong
    opinion --- I don't like him in the least nor trust him. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53636
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Jeannie...
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 14:57:29

            We do have some ADULT type SIGs....  The COSmos is unrestricted
    as long as there are no Credit card numbers or Phone Phreaking posts.
            Then there is our LATe Night Apollo SIG, that appears only between
    the hours of 11pm to 4am.
            For FEMales there is a FEM SIG....but there are too few FEMale
    users.   I wonder why more females do not use Bulletin Boards???

            The bad news: Apollo is a membership board when it comes to the
    use of SIGs.  It is a whole whopping $10.00 per YEAR!!!!  That is not per
    SIG....  that is TOTAL cost for any SIG you qualify for....

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53637
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Today
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 17:07:23

    I had a lunch date today (8-11-88), but the girl got sick and canceled.
    We'll probably go to lunch next week, but I was disappointed, because I
    won't be able to have another date like I'd have today until September 12,
    1999 (9-12-99).

    Message: 53638
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last on JT
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 17:44:00

            How would you like to spend a week in the PHAnton Zone looking for
    that "Special" day?
            They even talked about 8-8-88 on KFYI, so why did you feel I could
    not mention it here?  Some times I think you don"t have a brain in
    your fool head, and at other times, I AM SURE of it!
            Sorry I brought it up, next time I won't........

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53639
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: special day
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 19:45:24

    Today is also a special day (night, actually) because the meteors are
    showering.  I saw a few last night when I was driving home.

    Message: 53640
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Hey, Jeannie.....
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 21:17:20

    When were you in Seattle?  I was up there this past year for a while.
    Also, if you were on Teleputer, what was your nickname?  I met a couple
    of the ladies from that BBS before it folded.
                                                       Gary

    Message: 53641
    Author: Will Rodiams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Drugs
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 22:11:29

      God is perfect,
        Man is not.
      Man made whiskey,
        God made pot!

    Message: 53642
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 00:29:37

      Where on earth did you get the idea that I got the idea that you were
    going to vote for Dukakis? I explained your error in divorcing a
    candidate's image from his political reality and since the course you
    were advocating favored Dukakis, I mentioned some of the factors
    that you SHOULD have been taking into account ahead of age.
      As for my problem with the word 'genuine', I shall explain it. The word
    genuine is an adjective. It is meant to help in describing something by
    conveying some information about it. If I tell you that I have a genuine
    Winchester Model 1400 12 gauge shotgun for sale for $180.00 (which I do
    by the way), it means that it was really made by Winchester. If, on the
    other hand, I say that Dukakis is genuine, what am I saying? Have I told
    you anything, or have I just worked a favorable adjective into a sentence
    about him without attaching any value judgement to be proven true or false?
    If you had said that he was a genuine liberal or a genuine Massachusetts
    Democrat or a genuine misplacer of violent prisoners, I would not have
    quibbled with your use of the word in the least.
      The Libertarians are on the ballot in Arizona and many other states, so
    we will not have to write them in.
      See You Later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 53643
    Author: Dan Deacon
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Funny
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 00:54:52

    JT??  To bad about the girl, but I cant say I blame her :-o
    .
    .
    ZAK: Meteor shower?  And I forgot my shower cap...  waaaahhh

    Cliff:  They probably talked about 8-8-88 on KFYI because they had nothing
         better to talk about.. work that dial!!!

    .
    .
    .
    in mutual suspense....
          me

    Message: 53644
    Author: Jeannie Innajug
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Status & Post Office
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 08:14:32

    Thanks for all the info about Apollo.  This seems lke a great board, and a
    real great bunch of people.  I'll have to think about the "status" thing.

    I'm a "travelling lady" for a big company and spend a lot of time in
    Phx, Salt Lake, Seattle, and San Diego.  I use my laptop to get onto the
    boards in the cities where I'm working.  Never had to pay just to be "one
    of the guys," tho.

    To Jonesey:  I evidentially used up all the Post Office message units I
    am allowed, so will reply to your question in private another day.

    Anyway, it's off to my dusty apartment in Metropolis.  Be back in Phoenix
    Monday, I think.

    See y'aa...........
     Jeannie

    Message: 53645
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Dean/last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:14:11

    For lord's sake Dean - why are you quibbling over such things as the word
    genuine? You know what I meant! Our views on politics are not that far
    apart! We both want to see things better than they are. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53646
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: How come ......?
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:15:49

    .... no one has made any comments on the two top issues in Arizona right
    now? -- the Circle K controversy and the new Jesus movie? Anyone?
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53647
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Az. politics
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:29:25

    It looks like we are still trying hard to disgrace ourselves on the
    political scene! Now we are going to waste the tax payer's money to sue
    Mecham again. Why can't they just let him pay it back like he is trying to
    do and let it go at that? The state will probablly waste more than the
    $80,000 they are suing for in trying for a vendeta! That money was given to
    him when he was governor to use - he is trying to give it back to each
    individual. What is more puzzling and a little scarey - what right does
    Valley National Bank have in refusing to acknowledge the checks? The trial
    has not even been schedualed yet. Is this legal? If they can do it to him,
    they can do it to us! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53648
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: ANN
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 11:52:51

    "The Last Temptation of Christ" didn't open in Phoenix.  Perhaps we should
    picket to get it shown here?

    Message: 53649
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 15:42:23

    It is your system, and you can talk about whatever you want to.  I have
    never believed otherwise.  Just make sure you talk about as much as you can
    today (8-12-88) because you won't get another chance like this until
    September 13, 1999 (9-13-99).  And that will be a Monday rather than a
    Friday.

    Message: 53650
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last...
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 16:56:56

            But James T., There is NOTHING special about 8-12-88.
    It is not a POWER day like 8-8-88 was, nor are ALL the numbers the same.
    To people who play the numbers games, and 8 being a power/money number, it
    was to be a fantastic day....  A day to go for the big one if they were
    betting people.
            It is also a date that is EASY to remember, and maybe that is why
    there were so many weddings on that day....

            In short, just grasping at "Chit-Chat"

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53651
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Ann/genuine
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 19:26:48

      You should be able to tell that I am doing a lot more than just quibbling
    about words here. To reduce it to that would be to sidestep the whole issue
    of how our political system is supposed to function. I pointed out that you
    were basing your favorable comments about Dukakis on a completely
    meaningless misuse of a particular word. I did not mean that I wanted that
    word stricken from the language, I meant that such misuse should be
    recognized and given it's proper (null) value in political discourse.
      If we happen to vote the same way I suspect that we will be doing it for
    much different reasons. After seeing you casually throw reason out the
    window (I throw it in a drawer) and advocate Wheel-Of-Fortune as a
    replacement for self-government, I don't know that we are as close
    politically as you are saying.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 53652
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 20:58:08

    Of course there is something special about 8-12-88.  It is the last day
    until 9-13-99 that meets the pattern (x)-(x+4)-(11x).  It is also a "power
    day" which is easy to remember.  I know I'll never forget 8-12-88.

    Message: 53653
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 22:19:18

            Buzz off Dork!

            The number 1 or 2 or 12 is not a power number to gamblers.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53654
    Author: Biggest Schitter
    Category: In search of
    Subject: a BBS to BS on
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 23:45:08

    As my name suggests, I like the schitt - the bull schitt variety. So, lets
    do some real bull-schitting!

    Message: 53655
    Author: Biggest Schitter
    Category: War!
    Subject: users full of schitt
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 23:47:40

    To James Taranto, Nick Ianuzzi, the sysops, etc. - this schitt's for you!
    Eat it and die!

    Message: 53656
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: $tatus users only
    Subject: PHXAUG for IBM users
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 00:38:27

            PHXAUG.EXE is a Self-Extracting list of over 200 computer
    connections in the Phoenix area.  Run the file and after it self-extracts it
    will create three files, PHX#_AUG.DIR
                             PHX#_LST.AUG
    and.....                 READ.ME

            The READ.ME file tells you how to print out a very comprehensive
    listing of area code (602) Bulletin Board Systems...
    In numeric order by Phone Number and Aphabetical order by system name.
    Included at no extra charge is Everything you wanted to know about
    INTER-ZONE calling. Plus, lots of other info on the Systems and SYSOPs!?

            This may be the best accurate listing I have seen to date...

    Oh, one more thing, this is all compiled by Rod Bias.... Give him a hand!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    P.S.  Almost forgot, this can be found in the ibrary under PHXAUG.
            And remember, this is an .EXE File when you save it to your disk!

    Message: 53657
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 01:19:15

    OK, here's some comments:
    The movie: it should not be censored, and the protesters are only defeating
    their own cause.  However, as one columnist pointed out, attacking the
    founder of Campus Crusade for Christ for offering to buy all prints of the
    movie as a "censor" is silly.  He was offering a voluntary transaction.
    Beyond that, I can't say much, because I haven't seen the movie.
    The Circle K controversy: more silliness.  It's obvious that an employer
    should have the right to deny medical care for people who inflict the damage
    on themselves.

    By the way, I notice no one has mentioned the hike in the discount rate
    (which, while unimportant in and of it self, signals higher interest rates)
    and the subsequent hike in the prime.  Did Greenspan make a good move?  The
    economy, to everyone's suprise, is doing good -- so good that economists
    worry it might overheat and cause inflation.  The best way to stop an
    overheating economy is with a budget surplus, but that's unlikely, to put it
    mildly.  So a hike in rates is the next best thing.  So if you want lower
    rates, hope for bad economic news.  But since that isn't likely either, then
    a higher interest rate is a small price to pay to avoid the Great Satan of
    inflation.

    Message: 53658
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 05:44:07

    Is the number 13 a power number for gamblers?  Because today is August 13,
    1988 (8-13-88), and there won't be another day like it until September 14,
    1999 (9-14-99).

    Message: 53659
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: David/controversy
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 07:27:58

    I agree with you on both points. Banning that movie is like burning books.
    The people that are prepared to be offended should simply not go see it.
    One thing I don't understand about the Circle K subject - why would they
    hire a person with AIDS to begin with? Much less insure them? If an AIDS
    vicim worked at my local Circle K - no one would do business there. Even
    with all the education on the subject - people are still scared to death of
    it. Right or wrong, that's a fact and Cicle K is in the business for the
    money. It seems the news media is trying it's best to make them look like
    unfeeling monsters. Perhaps they are - but they should have choices. I
    certainly wouldn't want anyone to force an AIDS vicim to work for us and
    have to insure them. That's a fast ticket to the poor house! =*--ANN--*=
    P.S. Don't get me wrong - my heart goes out to any person that has ATDS -
    I wouldn't be frightened to work beside them - assuming of course, they were
    not in the infectious stage. But the insurance rates are already too high on
    normal, healthy people. If we are paying a laborer $5 an hour and then had
    to insure him for $2,000 or more a year ........ (That figure is probably
    way low!)

    Message: 53660
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dean/politics
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 07:49:36

    Somewhere along the line, we quit comunicating re: this subject. Let me
    clarify my points again ---- with the politicians we have today - it's like
    going to the horse races and choosing who you will pick to win! You might
    pick one that has a good past record of winning or you might even choose the
    best looking - the youngest of the pack. You might choose the jockey
    (running mate) also. But this does not guarantee you will pick a winner from
    a pack of old, staid nags. Once in a while a 'Secratariat' or a 'Swaps' or a
    'Nashua' comes along and the owner is a winner, the jockey is a winner and
    the whole pack of betters are a winner and so are you! But you can also
    choose to bet on the long shot!
    I would like you to clarify why your method is better than this! And please
    answer this - do you think we have that great of politicians right now? If
    so - who and why do you think that way? From some of our past conversations,
    both in person and here, I assumed you were voting Libertarian because you
    were also tired of the same old thing. Forget 'genuine' OK? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53661
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Circle K
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 10:52:31

    I don't think the issue is quite as simple as you've made it out to be,
    David.  Even if we grant that an employer has a right to refuse medical
    coverage for self-inflicted injury, obviously not all AIDS cases fall into
    that category.  Further, what about cases of people who contracted AIDS
    before they knew that it was a risk?  Does that count as a "self-inflicted
    injury"?  What about people who contract it from spouses who have been
    cheating on them?  Do accidents which take place while engaging in risky
    recreational activities (skydiving, skiing, for example) count as
    "self-inflicted injuries"?  After all, the people who engage in these
    activities know there is a risk of injuy.

    Message: 53662
    Author: Bill Salina
    Category: For sale
    Subject: MODEMS
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 11:45:37

    1200 BAUS HAYS SMARTMODEM EXTERNAL WITH ALL ACCESSORIES $100.
    NOVATION 1200 SMARTCAT PLUS EXTERNAL  $75.  LEAVE MAIL IF WANTED.

    Message: 53663
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Risks/insurance
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 13:32:54

       For that matter, Circle K does insure those people that smoke, which is
    an activity that will lead to higher health risks.  And don't forget people
    that don't wash their hands before eating -- they are a health risk, too.
       It just seems silly for Circle K to single out a single risky activity
    when there are many more that they do cover.  If they *really* want to save
    money, why not have a policy that covers everthing except illness or injury.
    That'd save a lot of money.
       If you want to get really picky, they could consider working for Circle K
    a hazard to an employee's health, since a convinence store clerk
    (particularly on the night shift) runs a higher risk of injury than some
    other occupations.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 53664
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Entertainment/Movies
    Subject: Last Temptation
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 13:41:26

       The protesters aren't defeating their own purpose.  They are not trying
    to keep people from seeing the film, which is what they claim.  What they
    are really trying to do is show the world (and God) what moral, righteous,
    people they are.  Crying "yea, yea" unto the Lord, basicly.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 53665
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Crime
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 16:03:34

         There were a pair of brothers.  The older brother, John, was extremely
    bright.  He had graduated from high school with honors, finished college
    after three years at age 21, completed his master's degree two years later,
    and was almost done with his Ph.D. by age 25.  His younger brother, Jed, was
    four years younger.  Jeb was somewhat above average in intelligence, but he
    was an underachiever:  he dropped out of high school in his junior year, and
    had trouble holding a job.
         John and Jed didn't get along well.  John always taunted Jed saying
    things like:  "Look how many college degrees I have, and you're an ignorant
    dropout."  This drove Jed, who was emotionally unstable to begin with,
    crazy.  Several times they had come to blows over it.
         When John had completed his Ph.D. thesis, and was about to go to the
    graduation ceremony to pick up his degree, he really laid it on Jed.  "You
    worthless bum," he said, "I'm getting a Ph.D. and you're a good-for-nothing
    dropout and a nut on top of it."  Jed had had enough.
         Jed followed John to the school, and shot him dead right there at the
    commencement ceremony.
         What do you suppose Jed was charged with?  You guessed it, third-degree
    murder.

    Message: 53666
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 20:20:35

    What's this you are saying about only wanting to work with an person with
    AIDS if they're NOT in a highly contagious condition?  AIDS isn't a HIGHLY
    contagious at any point.  Are you going to be having anal intercourse with
    your husbands employees?  If not then I doubt you will have any worries.

    Message: 53667
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: JFK
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 22:30:11

          Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and
       foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of
       Americans-born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by
       a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage-and
       and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those
       human rights to which this nation has always been committed, and
       to which we are committed today at home and around the world.
          Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that
       we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship,
       support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the
       success of liberty.
                     - JFK at his inauguration

     As this week's National Review states:
      "Though the Democrats in Atlanta reverently invoked the name of John
     F. Kennedy, none of the  speakers was crazy enough to quote his
     inaugural address or cite his policy of cutting taxes. They remember
     him so fondly because they don't remember him so well."

    Message: 53668
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Platform
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 22:31:32

    A letter in the latest National Review:

     "Dear Bill:
        As you no doubt recall, the essence of the Democratic Party's 1972
      platform was pretty well summed up by the "Triple A" factor--"Acid,
      Amnesty, and Abortion."
        And this year? It seems to me that the "Triple S" factor aptly
      describes the current Democratic whimwammery. Oh, you don't know?
      "Sodomy, Socialism, and Surrender to the Soviet Union."
                                  Sincerely,
                                  Ray Lowry
                          Minneapolis, Minn.

      Dear Mr. Lowry: Gosh, I with I had thought of that!
       Cordially,         --WFB"

    Message: 53669
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: AMERICA
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 22:40:37

            Keep the dream going.... VOTE REPUBLICAN... VOTE BUSH!

    A FREE PLUG by the *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53670
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 02:04:53

      It appears that we approach politics from two completely different angles.
    Where I decide whether to support a particular party or candidate based on
    specific actions I expect them to take if they win, you decide based on
    something I can't even define clearly. Your horse racing story seems to
    indicate that you just want to vote for the candidate who wins the election
    (which has no particular benefit, of course). Much of your commentary
    suggests that your only criteria is that the candidate should promise to be
    a departure from 'the same old thing'. If you can't define specific problems
    with the 'old thing' and specific solutions in the 'new thing' then the
    prospects for this change yielding anything that you will consider an
    improvement are slim and none.
      By ignoring everything worthy of consideration in a political race (such
    as principles, objectives, experience, and past actions) the lazy
    voter (or non-voter) sees it as just another beauty contest and the
    natural reaction becomes instant boredom with each winner and a constant
    preference for NEW media-meat.
      Yes, there are some great people in American politics, but you will not
    discover them by comparing TV images and ages. They are great because of the
    stands they take on issues and their consistency in applying ideas like
    limited government and individual liberty. To recognize those who are great
    for you, you must pay attention and do your own thinking.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 53671
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Democratic Platform
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 06:29:54

    "The message of the Democratic platform was simply 'Hi, America, have a nice
    day.'" -- Fred Barnes, The New Republic

    Message: 53672
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Politics
    Subject: A violent campaign
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 06:33:36

    "GOP Designs Platform as Club to Bash Dukakis"--Headline, Los Angeles Times,
    August 10

    "Dukakis puts up defensive shields against Bush attacks"--CBS Radio News,
    August 12  (This one sounds like a combination of "Star Trek" and African
    guerrilla warfare)

    "Dukakis achieved an entente with Jesse Jackson in a manner that must have
    reassured voters who wondered if the governor of Massachusetts has the stuff
    to hold his own in the high-stakes world of nuclear blackmail.  Jackson made
    himself a Democratic superpower, but his only real weapon, the threat to
    bolt or sulk, was a doomsday machine he could not detonate without
    destroying himself along with his negotiating partner.  Dukakis did not
    blink, which is perhaps what Jackson was thinking of when he paid tribute in
    his speech to Dukakis's 'steel nerves.'"--Hendrick Hertzberg, The New
    Republic, August 29

    Message: 53673
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Dean/noting
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 10:43:36

    Yes Dean, you are right - I am apathetic towards politicians at this point.
    Also frustrated, disappointed and discouraged! At one time not so long ago,
    I was always in the thick of politics - looking behind the news media hype
    and judging for myself. The Mecham thing really did it for me! Through my
    husband's work, we got involved in the Mecham camp. Not that I think he was
    so great - he did have many good points however, but the political machine
    that did him under (simply because he wasn't one of them!) rules this state
    with an iron fist. This is not idle heresay on my part. We were on the
    inside and it was scarey. So much so, that we all kept our mouths shut and
    still do. Mecham was not an Az. politician in any sense of the word, so he
    had to be removed one way or the other and was! What better way than to use
    the people and the paper? Anyway - no use digging up dead horses, but that
    is why I am so down on politics. Is Arizona so unique? Right now I'm under
    the opinion that if someone good does come along - he'll end up the same way
    Mecham did if he doesn't play ball on the right team! See you. =*--ANN--*=
    P.S. I still feel that if he had remained in office regardless of his
    tasteless comments about 'Pick-a-ninnys' etc. - this state would be much
    better off. He wasn't just another politician out for the power & money.

    Message: 53674
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: James/AIDS
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 10:50:12

    What you say may be right, but if it is never highly contagious, why do
    doctors and nurses who treat them, were gloves and masks while around them -
    even while making up the bed. Why do dentists now wear gloves? It seems that
    the latter would not be necessary if there was no danger. Right? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53675
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: A special day!
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 13:27:18

    Today is a special day (8-14-88).  It's the day I put James Taranto in the
    Phantom Zone.  There won't be another day like this until (9-15-99).

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53676
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 15:33:47

    You won't put Taranto in the Zone for another 11 years?

    Message: 53677
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 16:12:46

            Don't put any money on that... According to JT, everyday is a
    special day...

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53679
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 17:10:45

    Don't be silly, today is just a day like any other day.

    Message: 53680
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 17:51:12

    I'll give you $5 if you don't let JT out of the zone until that NEXT special
    date, 9-15-99.

    Message: 53681
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 19:00:31

    Is J. T. A real live something or other.
    I can't belive a ???? such as he, it or whatever could
    be human.    Give it another day in it's life.

    Message: 53682
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ralph/Milk
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 19:26:24

            The human animal (you and me) should have been weened around the age
    of one, give or take several months.  Why do you think we humans need MILK?
    It causes mucous, most of the milk lays in our intestines and ROTS.
            Weren't you weaned properly?
                                    Rod

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    Message: 53684
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Antique Auto Show
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 21:34:32

    Invitation:

    For anyone who's interested in old cars, come on over to Maryvale
    Mall, 51st and Indian School this week, Thursday Aug 18 through
    Sunday, August 21.

    The Phoenix Model A Club is showing 24 Model A Fords, including 5
    which were just driven from Phoenix to Massachussets and back
    this summer.

    I'll be working at the Mall all four days, come on over and say
    hi.

                                             Gary Jones

    Message: 53685
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Candidate/truth or ?
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 21:55:54

          I don't believe there has been a Presidential candidate since
    John Kennedy who does not have mutable hooks in them.  Looking at a
    candidates past record is a way of telling something about that person
    but is not a guarantee.  For those of us who are NOT in the know, we
    who are spoon fed political propaganda from the different camps, we
    must draw our conclusions from the writers who feed us.
          I see the office of President as nothing more than a managers
    position, a person who takes orders from the real power, the people who
    sponsored him for the race.  To me, it is Madison Avenue hype, whatever
    sells, promote.  The truly powerful would, in no way, want to be in the
    position of mere President, after all, they pull the strings and all
    the candidate has to do is look good for the people.  Besides, the
    power, the chairman of the board, if you will, has no desire to be used
    for target practice, that could be dangerous to one's health.
          The power people look for the most likely person to sponsor and
    if that person will push their particular ideas, they will be entered
    into the race.  It is much like a day at the track.  The Kennedy Clan had
    their own wealth and had no need to sell out to other interests.
          So, how can one choose a candidate without knowing which power
    entity is the sponsor?  We can guess which one backed Robertson, but
    the behind the scene deals should, by law, (no way) be made public and
    at least, in that way, we will know more of what is truly going on in
    our political arena.

          (Clarification :  Okay, John, Robert and Ted was sponsored by
    Joe, Sr. and I'm sure his influence was felt in the Presidency.

           Remember, it is not necessarily the candidates we are voting
    for, it is the power behind the so called throne.  An individual who
    has a desire to be President, has not, by themselves, the means to
    accomplish this goal.  It takes a lot of money and many deals have to
    be made.  It is like me going to a bank and taking out a loan for
    $20,000.  In a sense, the bank now owns a part of me and for the
    money I borrowed, I will be paying back a far greater sum.
                                    Rod

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    Message: 1490
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Life in general
    Subject: Story.....
    Date: 08/09/88  Time: 10:08:54

           Peter C. and his 2 coerts! They quickly surrounded the quest seekers,
    rendered them harmless, and drug them off to their big house across their
    big lake.
            "Now look what you have gotten us into!" glares the quest seekers at
    Dean.
            Dean smiles, "Have no fear fellow quest seekers. I know what I am
    doing ...... This is all part of the plan. Can you think of an easier way to
    get in than this?"
            As the quest seekers entered the domain of the Evil and Vile Peter
    C. they noticed hanging on the coat hooks what looked like city sewer
    sanitation clothes - freshly worn at that. They were taken to ......

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    Message: 83
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Rod - 60's Hippie
    Subject: Hey!
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 02:20:12

    Rod is on vacation, so we can heckle him here all week, and then delete the
    messages the day he gets back!

    Message: 85
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: Zakey Baby
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 08:37:29

    How can you talk about normalcy when you drool so badly? Everytime I get on
    this sig, I have to wipe my computer down! I saw you drooling the other
    night over some blond in a parking lot. Look like she was drooling too and
    between the two of you, the street got flooded! =*--ANNIE the ASSp--*=
    P.S. One of the features of this sig. is to be able to lie a lot and to be
    able to make up stories about wonderful people like Zakey Baby! the world's
    greatest wit!

    Message: 86
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Mighty SYSOPs
    Subject: Last/Ann!
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 10:09:18

            You had better get your spelling together.... Look at your last post
    on Zak, you have misspelled "twit", you spelled it "wit"....  now get that
    fixed, or you will forever be a member of the WAY Below NORMAL SIG!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 87
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Mike Farter
    Subject: Phhfft!
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 16:17:06

    Go suck on a can of Chef Boyardee baked beans, industrial size.

    Message: 88
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Mike Farter
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/10/88  Time: 21:00:24

    I don't think that Chef Boyardee makes baked beans.  Pasta only, I believe.

    Message: 89
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Cliffy
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 10:29:10

    But how can I call Zakey Baby a twit when I mean wit? You wouldn't want me
    to be dishonest even on this sig. would you? As I've pointed out before - I
    am sinless and pure ----- never lie --- my inteligance is the best and I
    neber missspell a thang! One can always count on me to .......

             AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH -------

                             * ZAP *

    Message: 90
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: cheek music
    Date: 08/11/88  Time: 20:03:01

    Cliff, get real.  I have incredible wit and you know it, you twit.  So eat
    sh*t.  Ann baby, the "flooded parking lot" you claimed to see was just a
    puddle.  I got the blonde so excited that she peed her pants.  I guess I
    just do that to women.  It's very annoying.  As for Rod, he's such a dork.
    Let's put tranquilizers in his Gatorade, and shave off his beard and
    eyebrows.  Let's shave his whole damned head.  Then we'll put him in some of
    Jasmine's clothes, put toothpaste on his face and leave him in some bustling
    metropolitan center of activity.  Let's also tattoo "Mary Magdelene" on his
    chest, that is after we shave it with month-old razors.  Hell, let's
    tranquilize the whole damned family and send them to Washington D.C.  Then,
    while they stay at JT's domicile, we'll clean the house and redecorate in
    MINT and MAUVE scheme.  We'll replace Rod's "Thank God I'm An Atheist" war-
    drobe with Calvin Klein SPORT apparel and get Jasmine some cute lingerie.
    send the kids to private schools where they have to wear the same thing
    every day and answer to threatening authority figures.  Meanwhile, Rod will
    adopt Cliff and Sandy's children so the two SYSOPs can spend a
    pleasure-filled vacation off the coast of Tiajuana.  Then they'll go to
    glorious L.A. where Cliff will be a contestant on Wheel of Fortune and Sandy
    a contestant on Jeopardy.  It will be a special day indeed.  All proceeds
    from Cliff and Sandy's winnings will go toward the improvement of Apollo.
    Extra phone lines will be added with a special on-line "chat" feature.
    That way the SYSOP's kids can show off all the nasty words Rod teaches 'em.

    I will erase this message before Rod arrives.

    Message: 91
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 02:57:19

    While we're at it, we'll get you a muzzle and put you out to pasture.

    Message: 92
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Nick the Geek!
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 09:02:09

    OK, Nick, go ahead and "out me out" to pasture!  While you're at it, "in you
    out" and "out you in" and "in you in", you stupid geek.

    Message: 93
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: Zakey Baby
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 10:53:54

    That was some damn post! Yeah - you'd better erase it before Rod gets back!
    However as halarious as it was! I sure wouldn't have minded helping you
    shave him! Ha ha. =*--ANNIE the ASSp--*= T.B.A.H.O.T.A.

    Message: 94
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: Zak
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 15:45:41

    You damn plagiarist, you copied that message word-for-word from a message
    Cliff entered on the COSby sig.

    Message: 95
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: huh?
    Date: 08/12/88  Time: 16:41:14

    There's nothing wrong with my message.  You must be hallucinating.

    Message: 96
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Might Sysop
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 08:12:15

    Don't you think Gary Jones belongs in this sig. too - with his own
    category? From the looks of his 'Thang' on the cos. - he IS way below
    normal! Hahahahahaha. Why don't you surprise him? =*--ANNIE the ASSp--*=

    Message: 97
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: Nick and James
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 16:22:47

    Nick, you UIPed that post!  Geek.  It originally said "out you out to
    pasture..."

    James, I'm not running for a political office, so what's a little plagiarism
    between friends?

    Message: 98
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: Plagiarism
    Date: 08/13/88  Time: 17:42:12

    Actually, I got a call the other day from a guy who had lived in the same
    dorm as I at American University, wanting me to write a paper for a class
    for him.  I told him it would be unethical and I couldn't do it.  (I also
    doubt he could pay me what my writing is worth.)

    Message: 99
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: JT Intellect Bore
    Subject: Last....
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 08:04:35

       Whew, I was worried about you for a second.  Imagine, not doing something
    just for an ethical principle.  Not doing it because the guy couldn't pay
    you the fair market price of your work is more like it.  After all, pure
    capitalism depends on people being only motivated by money.  Throwing in
    other motivations like ethics and charity are destroying our economy.
    These socialistic influences must be purged!

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 101
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Zak Drools
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 12:19:52

    Yes, I can see why your writing is worth so much.

    Message: 103
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Elf A-L-A-N
    Subject: Hamilton
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 17:14:22

    Everyone has his price.  If the guy had offered me, say, $500,000 to write
    papers for his class, I might have agreed to do it.  But I'm certainly not
    going to compromise my ethics when I can get paid more for writing for which
    I don't have to compromise my ethics.  Last week I got paid $350 for a
    five-and-a-half-page political speech.  I know this guy wouldn't have been
    able to pay me anywhere near this -- and, as I say, he would have to offer a
    hefty additional inducement for me to copromise my ethics.

    Message: 104
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: JT Intellect Bore
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 17:54:39

    Well you look like you're ripe for a political job.  Perhaps if Bush wins
    you can get a job in his administration.  Ever think of becoming a Lawyer?
    You'd be a pretty good replacement for Ed Meese.

    Message: 105
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Hawley Crock Smith
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/14/88  Time: 19:02:32

    Actually, I met Ed Meese last week, and I'd be honored to follow in his
    footsteps.

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