### Apollo BBS Archive - May 31, 1989

    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 5544
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: Idea
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 20:41:41

      How many people could make it to a GT at my house this weekend? We live in
    the northeast part of town, near Cave Creek Road and 12th Street. It is not
    a very big place, but I think it could handle the turnout of any GT I have
    been to yet. It could be Saturday or Sunday or maybe even both. It could be
    a cookout, a drunken brawl, or whatever. We live on the edge of the Phoenix
    Mountain Preserve, so hiking and biking are even a possibility.
      If people are interested we need to decide how and when and what people
    want to bring. It will be largely Bring-Your-Own on consumables if it
    happens, since we don't drink.
      Let me know if people are interested and we will put something together. I
    even have some photos and videos of past GTs to show to anyone who is
    interested. You could even gaze upon the video image of James Taranto from
    the JB's GT. You will even hear him speak.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 5545
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 23:15:16

    I vote for Saturday, as my Sunday from around 4pm on is already spoken
    for...

    Message: 5546
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 02:13:59

    Saturday is fine with me.  As long as there is a beauty contest.

    Message: 5547
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean/GT
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 06:11:25

    Hey - that sounds great! I'd go. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 5548
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: James/last
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 06:12:20

    Fine with the beauty contest. What type of bathing suit are you going to
    wear? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 5549
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 06:34:23

    I think I'm going topless.  How about you?

    Message: 5550
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 09:29:54

    I'll go if it's still going on after 6PM Saturday.

    Message: 5551
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 09:57:06

            I'm with Michael James.... if it is AFTER 6pm Saturday.....

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 5552
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 11:38:25

    I'll drop by for an hour or so, but I can't stay any longer than 7pm.

    Message: 5553
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: Time
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 12:15:37

      So far Saturday starting at around 6pm seems popular. Does that sound ok
    to most who would attend?
      See You Later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 5554
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 17:33:58

    I can't make it.

    Message: 5555
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 19:53:18

            What kind of drugs will you be serving?

    Creative Corner Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2288
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Kontest
    Subject: Withdrawal
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 16:07:41

      I didn't feel good about the possibility of winning this contest when I
    started it, made up the rules, and ended it. I would be a lot happier just
    writing a story for fun and encouraging others to do some writing also. If
    we have another contest in which I don't make up the rules, etc then I will
    be happy to enter.
      See You Later,
        Dean H.
    <*

    Message: 2289
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Review/Critique
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 18:10:53

            I will not hold a grudge against you, Dean, if you win.
    I do not think you will hold any grudges against me when you find yourself
    in the Phantom Zone for life either.

    Message: 2290
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: CLIFF
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 19:20:52

         Maybe we can vote on whether or not to close the story vote.

    Message: 2291
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 20:29:14

      Shouldn't we vote first on whether or not there should be a vote to
    decide on closing the story vote?
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 2292
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean/last
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 06:16:55

    Forget the Kontest - you won fair and square it looks like to me! Why?
    Simply because most of the voters thought your's was the best. There is no
    reason why your good story should not have been included because you started
    the Kontest. So forget it - sit back and get your Glory, Laud and honor that
    is due you. Congratulations! Lets do it again soon. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 2293
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: do it again
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 19:56:52

            Yeah, I've got another twisted story idea.  Just another way the
    world could end, that's all.  And as my last story pointed out a very real
    way this planet could become meaningless to humans, the other idea is just
    as viable, in fact, it is happening right now, under our noses.

    The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 3122
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Joke
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 16:20:11

    Where do Vermont cows go on dates?

    To the Mooooooovies!

    Message: 3123
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 18:15:42

            I give up .........

    Which one of those two lines was the punch line?

    Message: 3124
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Joke
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 17:34:45

    What was the cow doing on Interstate 89 in Vermont?

    About 4 mph!

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 58962
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Hello
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 16:18:23

    I guess Frank Lopinto says hi.

    Message: 58963
    Author: Lee Warren
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: other systems
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 16:37:04

    ST Base Express no longer in service.*
    The phone is now other use.
    from: Lee Warren
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    Message: 58964
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/Greek
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 19:06:45

    Cliff, I think your "Greek" feature is illegal in some states, including
    Arizona.

    Message: 58965
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Jim Lippard/Genii CS
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 19:10:14

    Do you think they would offer a free promotional copy if it were used to the
    purpose of re-broadcasting in the Phoenix area?

    Message: 58966
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Grand Prix
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 19:11:14

    I plan to stay away from it as possible for the entire day. Including TV and
    radio coverage.

    Message: 58967
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/last
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 19:43:26

    Not me! I'd give my eye teeth to go to the Grand Prix. Wish my husband would
    surprise me with tickets - but I really can't take the sun and don't wish to
    pay $200 a seat for shade - if there's any left! I doubt that we will get TV
    coverage. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58968
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/Greeking?
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 22:23:57

            Why is it 'illegal'?   I hardly think so.....

    Are you sure you know what I mean by Greeking text so a person on this side
    of the BBS can not see private mail or the ote of other users!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 58969
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Grand Prix
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 22:25:38

            I hope it is a FLOP!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 58970
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Grand Prix
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 23:13:47

    ESPN will cover it live.

    Yes, we've paid for it, but the city is hoping to get back some of the costs
    by charging those who actually 'use it' (that is, attend).  Think of it as a
    toll road.

    Message: 58971
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Tales & Tall Stories
    Subject: Mana from Uncle Sam
    Date: 05/30/89  Time: 23:14:38

    I have in front of me, a check made out to me for $406.27 - now all I need
    to do is to find a bank that will let me open an account in my name...

    Message: 58972
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 02:16:42

    If it's a legitimate check, I can cash it for you.

    Message: 58973
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 02:18:12

    I do believe that there are less expensive seats available.  It's like the
    Fiesta Bowl parade.  It's nice for the city, but I don't really have any
    desire to see it.

    Message: 58974
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/pollution
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 04:03:22

    When the emissions control system of a late-model automobile is functioning
    in "closed loop" mode, tailpipe emissions are very low. After your car has
    warmed up, and assuming that you haven't been idling for an extended period
    (more than 5 minutes or so), your vehicle will switch to closed loop.
    Basically that means that the car adjusts it fuel/air ratio according to the
    oxygen sensor's input, and that the catalyst is sufficiently warm to
    function properly. Since today's cars warm up rather quickly, and most
    people don't waste gas idling for extended periods, you're usually operating
    in closed loop. The purpose of the emissions test is to confirm that the
    system is functioning properly when it is in closed loop, at both idle and
    cruise speeds. Most emissions are produced at cruise (when the car would be
    in closed loop if functioning properly), so the test is useful enough.

    I can't understand why anyone would want to remove the catalytic converter
    on a late model car. The fuel savings would be negligible at best, and
    converters are covered by a 5 year warranty on all new cars.

    Message: 58975
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: James H./G.Prix
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 05:58:19

    Yes - I heard there was seats down to $25 - but no doubt, in the sun. I
    couldn't take the heat for an hour unfortunately. I'm hoping to meander
    around town after dark to hob knob with the Europeans and jet set. In other
    words, 'Gawk!' I'm a full fledged people watcher'. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58976
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Nick/last
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 06:10:14

    That was an impressive post. You obviously know what your talking about.

    I'm not knowledgable about catalytic converters and only go on here-say of
    other people - my husband being the main one. Through him, I heard of many
    that take them off and swear they get better milage and better preformance.
    We know one guy that works in a auto shop and he says so many new models do
    not function properly with the converters. Also, another guy that is a car
    dealer - he said the new Thunderbirds sit on the lot because they won't pass
    emissions testing with our new laws. I'm not against smog control of this
    sort, but I don't think it's fair that we pay the prices we do for autos and
    they don't function right from the factory. We ought to be able to at least
    go three years without worrying about emissions testing with a new car.
                             -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58977
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Concealed Weapons
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 11:03:15

                  ARIZONA CITIZENS CONCEALED WEAPONS ISSUE

         You   may  be  aware  that  Representative  Dave Carson (542-5412) of
    Prescott introduced  a bill that would allow Arizona citizens  to carry
    concealed weapons.  A permit would be issued  after  the required class
    hours had been completed and the permit fee paid.

         The  bill was voted on last week (May 22-25) by the Arizona House Of
    Representatives and passed. The bill now goes before the Arizona State
    Senate and may be voted on as early as the  first part of this week, May
    29-June 2.

         If  you agree with this bill,  to be able to receive a legal permit to
    carry a concealed weapon in the state of Arizona, it is VERY important for
    you to call our state Senators right away!!!  A call to each Senator listed
    below would be most effective. Even if they  are not from your district,
    their vote  WILL  directly effect whether you can or cannot  get a concealed
    weapons permit.

         Call  each  office  and tell them that you are in  favor of the
    concealed  weapons  bill  (S.1272) and urge the Senator  to vote "YES"!!!
    CALL ASAP!!  The vote may be early this week!

    (Phone numbers in next post of all AZ. District Senators)

    Message: 58978
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Az. Dist. Senators
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 11:09:30

     SENATOR           DIST. PHX. TEL.#      SENATOR           DIST. PHX. TEL.#

     ALSTON, LELA        20   542-4485       ARZBERGER, GUS      08   542-4321
     BARTLETT, DAVID     13   542-5911       BREWER, JANICE K.   19   542-4136
     CORBET, LEO         18   542-4480       CORPSTEIN, PETE     24   542-5284
     DE LONG, BILL       14   542-5993       DENNY, BOB          15   542-4173
     GABALDON, TONY      02   542-4486       GELLESPIE, JERRY    21   542-5288
     GUTIERREZ, JAIME    11   542-5262       HARDT, A.V."BILL"   04   542-4129
     HAYS, JOHN          01   542-5584       HENDERSON,JAMES,JR  03   542-4323
     HIGUERA, JESUS      10   542-5342       HILL, JEFFREY       09   542-5683
     MAWHINNEY, JOHN     12   542-4326       OSBORN, JONES       05   542-4139
     PATTERSON, TOM      26   542-5955       PEARCE, LESTER N.   29   542-4481
     PENA,MANUEL "LITO"  22   542-4171       RIOS, PETER         07   542-5685
     SOSSAMAN, JAMES     30   542-5325       STEINER, JACQUE     25   542-4916
     STEPHENS, ALAN J.   06   542-4178       STUMP, WAYNE        16   542-5261
     TODD, DOUG          27   542-4124       USDANE, ROBERT B.   28   542-4233
     WALKER, CAROLYN     23   542-4291       WRIGHT, PAT         17   542-3160

    If you want your own directory of Arizona Phone numbers for elected
    officials call 542-4900... Ask for mail room, then tell them you want a
    directory. There is NO charge for this 39th Legislature (1989-1990) booklet.
    You also get district maps and other assorted goodies.  Now do it!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 58979
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: "Greeking"
    Date: 05/31/89  Time: 20:02:13

            Arizona is an official English Language state.

    First name:ANN
    Last name:OUDIN
    Send mail to Ann Oudin:Yes

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     1:        Jeannie In-A-JUG just may be Gary.  At least Hawley seems to think
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