### Apollo BBS Archive - May 7 - 10, 1998

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    Message: 782
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last two
    Date: 05/06/88  Time: 20:33:41

    Cold blooded.

    Message: 783
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last three
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 09:09:53

    The only crime of that dog is - he probably has fleas. Ta ta =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 784
    Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Ann/ dog
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 12:31:08

    Ann what's the story behind the picture? Did your dog bite someone?

                                       <<< Joe >>>

    Message: 785
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Joe
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 15:38:45

    No, Ann bit someone, and they just blamed it on the dog.

    Message: 786
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 17:50:45

    Then that was a rendition of guilt.

    Message: 787
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann's dog
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:01:08

            The dog got the fleas from Ann!

    Message: 788
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Joe on dog.
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:17:38

    No - he got 'ticks' from Cliff! =*--ANN--*=
    P.S. Yes - he supposedly bit someone - it wasn't known for sure, but they
    took him in. (sob) Don't you read the BB? I've had all the details of this
    sad story there ALL week! It was almost as long as a book. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 789
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Points to Ponder
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:40:51

            Experts are people who know a great deal about very little, who go
    along learning more and more about less and less until they know practically
    everything about nothing. Lawyers, on the other hand, are people who know
    very little about many things and keep learning less and less about more and
    more until they know practically nothing about everything. Judges are people
    who start out knowing everything about everything but end up knowing nothing
    about anything because of their constant association with experts and
    lawyers.

    After we grow up, we stop believing in Fairy Tales - except those told by
    Politicians!

    People who are always taking care of their health are like misers hoarding
    up a treasure which they never have spirit enough to enjoy.

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     1:        When ye boil it all down, we are all ignorant beasts.  We aren't the
     2:most intelligent life on this planet, we just happen to have fingers.

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    Message: 631
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: No where
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 13:50:57

    I am closing down this SIG...  it is a waste of space, and is going no
    place...   A vic-20 sig would be more active

    Message: 632
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 15:39:08

    Oh well.

    Message: 633
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Is Atari Dead?
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 22:45:10

            I see Compute! Publications is giving up on the Atari ST.
    The June/July issue will be their LAST!!!  I have one left....
            Heather (sales Rep) told me there is very little interest in Atari!

    Message: 634
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dead?
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 07:34:17

       Like most dead boards, the problem is not exactly one of interest.  The
    problem is that most people won't start a brand new topic; they just comment
    on the current conversation.  If there's nothing to reply to, you get no
    replies.
       So here's a topic:  I ordered the Universal Item Selector, a program
    which replaces the original item selector on the ST.  I loved the demo
    version and heard great reviews of it, so I ordered it.  The disk arrived
    DOA -- it was completely unformatted.  I contacted Mike Linsday (ST-INFORMER
    on GEnie) and asked him what to do.  He said to toss the disk and send in
    the warranty card.  In the meantime, he would send off a new copy.  Two days
    later, the new (and operational) disk arrived.  I am very pleased with it
    and with the way I was treated by it's producers.  For $15.95, it's worth
    every bit.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

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     1:        What is the PEEK location to change colors?

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    Message: 1284
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Points...
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:44:34

            I get Sandy's points, and that's all I care about...

    Message: 1285
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff/points
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:19:20

    See how crazy the board gets (re: the point messages)  when you go away?
    Don't let it happen again! Ta ta =*--ANN--*=
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    Message: 359
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: Carter
    Date: 05/06/88  Time: 23:36:23

    I say we 'lop-off his head and use it for a payload!

    Message: 360
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 23:15:46

    We're not NASA here.  We don't have a large enough engine to lift that much
    weight!

    Message: 361
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Rockets
    Subject: Henderson, NV expl.
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 23:21:13

    That rocket engine oxidizer explosion may have an effect on all of us!

    I was talking to the owner of Enertek today, and he said that the Department
    of Defense may limit or actually exclude all non DOD use of Ammonium
    Percholorate rocket engines.

    That plant in Henderson was 50% of the national output.  This will probably
    cause all AP rocket engines to go up in price, or to make them unavailable.
    (This isn't really aimed at hobbyists, but scientific and other uses of AP
    engines.)

    Message: 362
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: GT or Bust!
    Subject: Rocket GT!
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 23:27:03

    This is to remind you that the GT is next Sunday!  I will post a meeting
    place by this Monday, where we can meet on the morning (8:30-9:00 am) of the
    15th.  I can give about three people a ride if they wish.  I live at about
    5th Street and Thomas.  I am going to be leaving at 8:00-8:15 from my house.

    The rocket is almost finished.  It just needs a little more epoxying, and
    then a paint job in the middle of the week.  Cliff did an excellent job of
    cutting out some fiberglas parts for the rocket!

    Cliff or Rod should be able to bring an ice chest, so you can bring your own
    drinks, or I'll stock up on drinks this week, and bring them.  If you have
    any suggestions, or questions, my phone number is 277-9595.

    Message: 363
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Jams/G.T.
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 10:04:36

    One small thing - you forgot to mention where it will be. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 364
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 14:56:08

    At your house, obviously!

    But seriously, it is probably going to be out West a little (Not as far as
    last time!).  We'll probably meet in some dark deserted shopping center some
    where, and then caravan out to the launch site.  Much easier than trying to
    draw a map of a lot of desert!

    Message: 365
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: GT or Bust!
    Subject: Location
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 15:31:01

    I have firmed up the location of the launch.  It will be at about Bell and
    Grand.  (Bell and Dysart road, 123rd ave, I think.)  We are going to just
    meet at the launch site, not at a dark deserted shopping center (as
    previously reported).

    I will post a map on Tuesday night.  If anyone has any 'small' (under G
    engine) rockets they want to launch, make sure and bring them.  We need to
    fire some of the small ones first so the cameramen can practice 'tracking'
    rockets.

    Message: 366
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: launch
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 17:15:51

    What's wrong with meeting at a location other than the launch site? I think
    we'll have better luck rounding people up that way. Besides, I'd much rather
    wait for everyone to show up while drinking coffee than sit around in the
    desert somewhere. I vote for meeting at a Bob's or Denny's.

    Also, who exactly has commited to attending? It would be nice to know who we
    are waiting for when we get to wherever it is we're going.

    Message: 367
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: GT or Bust!
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 19:35:06

    I'm going, but I'd rather not drive through the desert again if it can be
    avoided.  Will there be enough space at the launch site to land a
    gyro-plane?

    Oh, can Mychele go if she makes sandwiches (or something) for everyone?

    Message: 368
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Nick
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 20:04:08

    Sure, we can meet somewhere if you wish.  (I had originally thought that the
    directions would be too dificult to post, so that is why I had thought to
    meet somewhere other than the launch site.)

    But we can't get to the site too late if we want to get everything done
    before it gets too hot.  We might be able to bring a tarp and some poles,
    so we can have a little shade.

    We could meet at the Denny's up by Cliff's (Bell and the freeway, Smitty's
    shopping center.) if you want.

    Or, there is a Carrows on the other side of the freeway (east side).

    Message: 369
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: GT or Bust!
    Subject: Head/Nikki
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 20:09:42

    I want to state again, that you *don't* have to contribute to come.  Of
    course it would be nice if everyone did, but I don't want to exclude anyone
    that really wants to come.  If Nikki would make sandwiches, that would be
    GREAT!  I could probably give you and Nikki a ride if you want.  I don't
    think that there will be that much 'desert' driving though.  Actually this
    isn't even a desert area.  It is a large area that has been leveled off for
    a future housing project.

    Rod is going with me (and his video camera...), so I can take another 3
    people max.

    Message: 370
    Author: $ Dean McCarron
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 20:43:10

    I'll be there, should there be any doubt.

    Now, just give us some real directions on where to meet, please!

    Dean

    Message: 371
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: GT or Bust!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 22:16:33

    If we decide to meet at the Denny's, here is the map.
                                        N
                                       W E
                                        S

                                    |        |
                                    |        |
             Black Canyon Fway  --> |        |
                                    |        |
    29th drive                      |        |
    --|-----------------------------|        |----------------------------
                                    |        |
                                    |        |
    --|-----------------------------|        |-----------------------------
                       **Denny's**  |        |
                                    |        |
                              ^     |        |
              West Bell Road ^|^    |        |
                              |     |        |

    The Denny's is located in a Smitty's shopping center.  And this center is
    the location of the old Apollo Computer.

    Message: 372
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: Jams
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 06:40:17

    OK - now, what time do we meet? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 373
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 15:40:30

    Well it all depends how long we're going to be there...  I'd say that we
    need to leave by 8:45-9:00am, so we should get there between 8:15-8:45am.

    Message: 374
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: time?
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 19:58:40

            If it exists, I get up at 10:00 on Sundays....

    Message: 375
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 22:34:47

    Well you may need to get up earlier if you want to witness the launch!  The
    reason we are having it earlier is so that it will not be too hot, and so
    that we won't be launching right into the sun.

    Message: 376
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Again....
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 23:49:45

    Or you could just come later and hope that we haven't launched the big one.
    Sound reasonable?

    Message: 377
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: (last - 1)
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 10:08:43

    I'm in favor of an earlier launch; I'll just stay up all night.

    Is pastrami and peanut butter and jam OK with everyone?

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    Message: 52076
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/06/88  Time: 22:46:28

    Bow wow!

    Rev. Beau

    Message: 52077
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Mike Stackpole
    Date: 05/06/88  Time: 23:18:56

    I still want to know what the heck happened to Wayne West!  Steve MacGregor
    won't tell me.

    Message: 52078
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Jams/letter
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 08:52:37

    Sorry I don't have that anymore. It was over 14 years ago that I wrote that
    into the paper. As I said - I never did figure out why the reacted the way
    they did. It was almost as if they didn't want to be faced with the
    situation because most of the callers, as far as I could tell, were just
    local citizens - not city officials. The letter was just one of complaining
    about the abominal conditions and that something should be done. The people
    that called mostly denied that the situation existed. Why? I don't know
    because I saw it for myself. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52079
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Sorry Redman ---
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 09:08:18

    .. but I don't agree. You said you wouldn't want to take a chance even if it
    was one in a million --- I'd guess the chances of anyone getting rabies is
    one in 100 million! Probablly the same odds as getting it from another
    person. Over reaction! This father was brain washed into thinking there was
    a real danger here. The government has done a good job again to justify the
    money! As far as the dog staying home for those 7 days - what difference
    would 7 days make if the dog had rabies? The child would still have the
    shots regardless. Instead of the city taking the dog - they could require
    the owners, at the end of 7 days to prove the dog had a vet check up and
    doesn't have rabies. That's all they are going to do anyway. By the way -
    the last time I lived in California - they let you keep the dog in
    quarenteen at home! They just found out another scam to get our money by
    preying on our fears in Arizona is all. AND - no one is going to take their
    dog somewhere else to be tested and if it's positive, not tell anyone! Who's
    going to keep a dog around that has been tested positive for rabies? Besides
    - I guess I really didn't understand your statement fully?! Also - what has
    rabies got to do with a dog licence? They would have let him stay home if he
    had one. See you =*--ANN--*=
    P.S. If another child bit your child - would you insist that child be tested
    for the AIDS virus?

    Message: 52080
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Viruses
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 12:46:26

    From EDN, April, 28, 1988:

    Software Package Inoculates Disks Against Computer Viruses

      After one of its computers became infected with a
    destructive virus program (sometimes called a Trojan horse
    program), Sophco Inc (Boulder, CO, (303)444-1542) added an
    inoculation module to its $195 Protec software-protection
    package for computers running MS-DOS version 3.0 and higher.
    An engineer at the company had downloaded a seemingly
    innocuous program (an X-rated animated graphics program)
    from an electronic bulletin board to a computer's hard disk.
    That program contained an infectious module that installed
    delayed-action routines into executable software on the hard
    disk.  Later, the routines destroyed the files on the disk.
      Protec version 3.2 can safeguard your programs with a
    protective virus program called Vaccinate, which you install
    in your executable files with another program called
    Syringe.  The Protec system also includes a decoy program
    called Canary that you can use to test suspect software.
    You include Canary on a floppy disk along with the dubious
    software and run the suspect program.  If the Canary program
    "dies" after the suspect program finishes, you know there's
    a virus program on your disk.  Sophco has also initiated the
    Center for Computer Disease Control, which will act as a
    clearing house for information about such antisocial
    software. - Steve H. Leibson

    Message: 52082
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Dogs
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 14:09:53

      A family down the block from us has a dog that runs loose all the time. It
    got ahold of one of our cats and hurt it seriously. When we had the pound
    come out after the dog the people hid it and claimed they never had any such
    dog. They probably knew that they would have been financially liable for the
    damages as well as fines and having the dog taken away. I suspect that they
    would have done the same thing if it had been one of our children instead of
    a cat, the potental damages would have been much greater. That is why
    a dog should be impounded for testing. The possibility of a child having
    to undergo rabies testing outweighs seven days inconvenience to the owner
    of a dog that bites if you ask me.
      See you later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 52083
    Author: Craig Johnson
    Category: Entertainment/Movies
    Subject: WAR FLICKS
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 15:35:39

    I THINK YOU FOLKS ARE SLIGHTLY NAIVE COMPARING WWII TO VIETNAM.  WWII WAS
    FAR FROM A CLEAN WAR.  THE ALLIES PROBABLY KILLED FAR MORE CIVILIANS DURING
    THE BERLIN AIR ATTACKS THAN THE EXAGERATED BODY COUNTS THAT WERE "REPORTED"
    IN VIETNAM.  THE MAIN REASON THE PRESS DIDN'T BASH THE IDEA OF THE INVASION
    WAS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENTS PROPAGANDA AGENCY SCRUTINIZED REPORTS HEAVILLY.
    JUST REMEMBER THE GORE THAT WAS SHOWN US AT DINNER TIME DURING THE TET
    OFFENSIVE IN 68 WAS A UNIQUE INSITE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.  THE BACKLASH THE
    DEFENSE DEPT. RECIEVED FROM ALLOWING JOURNALISTS TO COVER THESE FRONTLINE
    STORIES HAVE CHANGED OUR GOVERNMENTS OPEN POLICY TREMENDOUSLY.  I'D BE
    WILLING
    TO GUESS YOU'LL NEVER SEE FRONT LINE STORIES LIKE THAT AGAIN IN THE U.S.
    PRESS AGAIN.  I ASK YOU IF YOU REMEMBER GRENADA.... YOU DIDN'T SEE ONE
    MINUTE OF AMERICAN FOOTAGE TILL AFTER THE ISLAND WAS SECURE.
    H

    Message: 52084
    Author: Libby Bellitter
    Category: For sale
    Subject: for sale
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 16:01:38

     1982 phymouth champ 4spd. air, stero(pioneer) runs great , new tires,
    asking 1500 or best offer must sell! 392-0025

    Message: 52085
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: WWII/Vietnam
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 17:22:48

      In Vietnam U.S. forces sought to keep the enemy's large units away from
    populated areas where they could be attacked with maximum firepower without
    endangering civilians. This worked to a large extent, but the media's
    response was to ridicule operations where remote bases were defended in
    order to protect the rest of the country. They made it sound like our troops
    were being sacrificed for worthless terrain when they were in fact defeating
    the enemy's invading forces overwhelmingly and at a safe distance from the
    cities in most cases. If this kind of half-witted and ill-advised reporting
    had been allowed in World War Two we would probably have been politically
    defeated in spite of military victory there as well.
      See you later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 52086
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: In search of
    Subject: WAYNE WEST
    Date: 05/07/88  Time: 19:57:32

         I knew him.  Something happened to Wayne?

    Message: 52087
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: DEan/dogs
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 10:02:36

    A dog should never be allowed to roam at will. If a dog bites you and then
    disappears, you, by law must report it and take the shots if the dog isn't
    found. (Personally, if it bit me and the dog seemed healthy and only bit me
    because I tried to pet it or something, then I would not report it! I would
    prefer to take my chances than have those awful shots) IF it attacted me or
    acted sick - then I would. I just feel that this whole thing is over
    reacting to the fear of rabies. My daughter and kids went to visit their dog
    yesterday and took him a 'care' package of food and a favorite blanket. On
    the way out, they saw this tiny kitten in a cage with a sign that said
    "Rabies quaranteen'. My daughter ask a guy working there what the problem
    with this kitten was - seems a neighbor kid came over to see the kittens
    (invited) - got to playing with it rough and it bit said kid and drew blood.
    He ran home bawling and his father came over and said he was going to have
    the kitten quarenteened for rabies and he called the authorities. Don't you
    think this is a tad bit of over reacting? How could that kitten, that was
    only about a month old and still nursing, have contacted rabies? He had
    never been out of the house yet! I think all of this is insane. See you
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52088
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: The SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: Montana Vacation
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 12:46:35

            I have just returned from Kalispell (Glacier Park) Montana where I
    have been for the past week.  It will take me a few hours here to catch up,
    but it looks like every thing worked in my absence.

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 52089
    Author: Montana Montana
    Category: Sex & Love
    Subject: d. j. Lane
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 14:04:26

    Am in Tempe, Az. Call george to find me. What happened to
    Stewart? I still love you.

    Message: 52090
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Tales & Tall Stories
    Subject: Random Memos
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 14:26:14

      "Persaunt to our telephone converation today I am again
    sending a copy of when we first filed it does not have our
    filing number on it ... According to our search records by
    the state UCCll you are however already prior filers.  Hope
    this helpes you in your projrct." - Written by an assistant
    branch manager of a Seattle bank.

      "If you can sleep for eight hours without smoking, I don't
    understand why you can't $#!+ for five minutes without
    smoking.  If it doesn't stop, the stall doors will be
    removed." - A Des Moines systems analyst.

      "The cracks in the plastic chair shell were progressive
    not catastrophic ... The propagation of the crack will be so
    slow that periodic inspections, using the criteria described
    in paragraph 3 below, would eliminate unsafe chairs in the
    workplace." - A U.S. Navy officer.

      "When asked to 'proof' something whether it is a letter, a
    bulletin, something we are printing the follwoing should be
    the usual procedure." - A printer in Palisades, Calif.

      "You should to the greatest extent possible strive for
    symmetry in your involvement with the business and editorial
    staffs as this relates to the level of person you meet with
    on a regular, formal basis." - A Washington, D.C., magazine
    publisher.

    Message: 52092
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Canine Critics
    Date: 05/08/88  Time: 14:49:55

      Last night I was hanging around near a city dump and a
    pack of four dogs came trotting up behind me.  Surprised, my
    first reaction was to say, in a chipper voice, "Hi,
    doggies!"  They stopped, turned, then just trotted back to
    the dump.  It was a humorous situation but I felt a little
    rejected, until I remembered the Evan Mecham mask I was
    wearing.

    Message: 52093
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: Death
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 03:44:10

    I've heard that Robert A. Heinlein died yesterday in his sleep.  His death
    leaves the world a lot more lonely.  Robert Heinlein wrote some of the best
    Science Fiction.  I think his last book was To Sail Beyond the Sunset.  A
    fitting title.  Goodbye.

    Message: 52094
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dogs
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 07:29:00

       In my case, I had done nothing to to excite the dogs (there were four or
    five of them in a pack).  I was walking on the other side of a residential
    street, and these dogs came out of an open gate.  They crossed the street
    and started following me.  I had heard that running just excites them, so I
    just keep walking.  They came up behind me, not acting threatening (no
    growling, etc.).  I was saying something to the effect of "nice doggies; go
    home, go home" when one of them, a German Sheppard, chomped me in the rear.
    I'm glad I was wearing jeans and not shorts.  As it was, I had to have a
    couple stitches and a tetnus shot.  It was eventually quarrantined, and
    tested okay.
       BTW, Ann, if an owner discovers that their dog has rabies after it has
    bit someone, he probably won't keep it, but he sure as h$ll will do
    everything he can to keep this from becomming known, for fear of a suit.
       Maybe you are a responsible owner, Ann, but there are too many people
    that consider their dog more important than anyone it might have attacked,
    and will do everything they can to cover up for the dog, and yes, even
    hide it if it has rabies.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 52095
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Nancy Reagan
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 07:29:46

       So the Reagans have been consulting astrologers?  Hmmm, that would
    explain a lot....

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 52096
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: More on dogs
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 07:32:01

       I have heard from several people, that the Maricopa County pound has
    better conditions than the Humane Society shelter has, and has a better
    record of placing pets as opposed to killing them.  I have no way to verify
    this, myself.  Comments?

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 52097
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Arresting Stats
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 17:33:15

    From USA Today:
      The number of inmates in state and federal prisons
    increased by 76.3 percent between 1980 and 1987, says a
    recent Justice Department report.
      Of the states with the largest increases in prison
    populations between 1980 and 1987, Arizona ranks 6th at
    142.2%.
      Of the states with the highest number of prisoners per
    capita, Arizona ranks 7th at 307 per 100,000 residents.
      Arizona has 10,948 state and federal prisoners, an
    increase of 16% since 1986.

    Message: 52098
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 17:50:00

    Judging from those statistics, by the year 2004 the law abiding citizens
    will number less than 1% and if so, I'm sure 'Mobsters' would have long
    ago imprisoned the good and set the bad free.

    So much for numbers.

    Message: 52099
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Tom Leykis KFYI
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:33:40

            First off.... Guns have nothing to do with drugs...
    A plane full of people carring 'HAND-GUNs' is less likely to get hi-jacked.
    (Have you knoticed where these big crimes against the public happen.... Yes,
    where hand-guns are banned!
            A plane full of people on drugs would just say "Like WoW" and then
    OD.
            A hand gun can give you a fighting chance and being on drugs you
    would have no chance.
            Yes, there are idiots with guns that shoot road signs...  there are
    idiots that drive cars that run over people too, so do you think Tom will
    want a ban on cars?  After all, more people die from cars than from guns in
    this country.
            I own a machine shop as well as a computer store.  The point here is
    I can make a gun and even the ammo...  I could even do a one time plastic
    gun if I wanted too (single shot then toss).
            And LAST....
            Geesh, the cross from the ground means "DEATH" and was the death
    sign long before Christ.  I have seen them on the way to Vegas, and not once
    did I think it ment Christian...  Now if they were neat little "Scull an
    Cross Bones" I would pick up a few of them (steal it) and so would many
    people.  No one will bother with two crossed sticks...eccept a funny Mormon.
    If they were just plain sticks... I would not knotice them along with all
    the other sticks along the road.  The Star of David is the Dodge Brothers
    emblem, but a youngster like Tom would not know that.

    Message: 52100
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Tom Leykis KFYI
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:43:19

            Welcome back, even if I do not agree with your ideas.
            I see that freedom of speech is only affordable to the rich
    and powerful.

            Good Luck, and I hope it works out for you.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 52101
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: dogs
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 05:50:25

    Most dog owners are at least fairly responsible citizens, who care for their
    pets and do not allow them to run loose for any reason.
    With one exception, all dogs that are running loose should be caught and
    contained for a period of time, and the owner fined. Dogs running loose ona
    a continual basis should be shot and the owner hel responsible for the cost
    of disposition of the body.
    The exception is pit bulls, all of which should be shot on sight, contained
    or not. There is absolutely no reason whi even one of those killing machines
    should be allowed to exist.

    Message: 52102
    Author: Mike Stackpole
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Wayne West
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 06:29:54

    As nearly as I know nothing has happened to Wayne West.  I've not spoken
    with him for a couple of months, but I've not heard from others that
    anything has happened to him.  I'll try to find his phone number and call
    him.  Let you know what happens.

    Message: 52103
    Author: Mike Stackpole
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Astrology debate
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 06:34:15

    Steve,
      Terry Warneke and I did discuss the random distribution of people in a
    category by "sun sign."  I had brought with me an analysis of all Presidents
    nd Vice Presidents of the United States and found the distribution, for both
    tropical and sidereal zodiacs, to be random.  Off the air Terry said that
    did not surprise him, but that, in other aspects, I would see the men were
    very much alike.
      In the debate I would have to say I came out on the losing end, but I did
    manage to get him to say "I don't know what makes it work."  The other high
    point, excepting the places where I had the hostess laughing to the point
    where she had to cover her mouth, I also got Warneke to say life begins with
    the first breath, then I asked how non living entities could be effected by
    the stars...
    Mike

    Message: 52104
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Alan/dogs
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:10:56

    Yeah - you are right. Unfortunately, a lot of people arn't responsible for
    their dogs and let them roam. That REALLY sounded like a scarey situation
    for you and I guess you were lucky it wasn't worse. When we lived in Taylor
    - up in the White Mountains - no one kept their dogs at home - guess because
    it was ranch land - lots of wide open spaces - but the dogs would form packs
    and roam the ranches, killing sheep, calves and chickens. Even one of my
    little darlings joined the pack and I could not do a thing about it because
    he never came back so we could tie him up - but we saw him everyday. Think
    some rancher shot him eventually! This dog was raised as a pampered pet too
    and had spent his life in the house & a fenced yard. I really feared these
    packs - they had no record of attacking people, but when they came even
    close to the property, I went into the house until they were gone even
    though my baby was one of them.
    I hope that what you said about the Pound vs the Humane Society being better
    is true. See you =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52105
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: On Drugs
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:13:13

    I think it's time, that as a nation, we start thinking about legalizing
    drugs! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52106
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: LAST
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 10:24:39

         Any drugs in particular?
         Should these drugs be available at the local Circle-K, or by
    prescription, or...?

    Bulletin Board command:EC

    You chose Chit Chat

    Subject:Drugs

    Enter a line containing only an <*> to stop
     1:        Legalize marijuana, all you need for a years supply is a couple of
     2:seeds and a big pot.
     3:                                Rod

    VOID Bulletin Board command:$C

    Press  to abort

    Message: 1332
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: The SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: Mark
    Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:51:35

            I think we lost Mark Adkins because a joke got out of hand...
    I am very dissapointed in the people involved.
            Generaly I like to think of Apollo as making good friends...
    not lossing friends....  think before you pull a prank!

    Cliff "das"

    Message: 1333
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/Mark
    Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:23:22

    Boy, did I miss something or what? What joke? What prank? Marks gone? Let me
    know what's going on. Surely this is a joke right? We can't lose Mark.
    =*--ANN--*=

    First name:PETER
    Last name:CERVELLI
    Send mail to Peter Cervelli:Yes

    Enter a line containing only an <*> to stop
     1:        I heard your call to KFYI yesterday (5/9), on the Tom Leykis show
     2:but I didn't know your name was James.
     3:end

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