### Apollo BBS Archive - December 4, 1991

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     1:I almost forgot to answer your question about locksmiths needing perfect
     2:vision.  The best locksmith I have ever met, Leroy Schellenbaum, was near
     3:legally blind, had very poor eyesight, wore thick glasses and when
     4:'impressioning a key', wore a cheap, dollar pair, scratched up lenses,
     5:head-wear magnifiers.  That man could impression anything and very fast.
     6:
     7:Whenever I feel blue or tired and I have more work to do, I think of Leroy
     8:and his ailments.  He had many.
     9:
    10:Prior to locksmithing, Leroy retired as a Master Sergeant in the Air Force.
    11:He served as line mechanic and line mechanic M/S for 20 some years and when
    12:he retired, after serving all over the world, he became a literal
    13:stormtrooper of locksmithing.  He is built like a Roman Soldier and that is 4:what he reminded me of.
    15:
    16:So, the answer to your question, in order to be a locksmith, all you need is
    17:the desire.  Handicapped or no, we each develop ways of doing similiar
    18:functions that are adequate.
    19:
    20:There is some independence in Locksmithing although I would watch out for
    21:building a clientele that is 7 day, 24 hours, unless you are willing to
    22:train another.  If you like traveling then you don't need to stay in a given
    23:area but after five years of same, going all over, I can no longer handle
    24:it.  Take care you, Sandy and the boys.            -Rod

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    Message: 2097
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Yawn...
    Subject: Yowza
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 03:26:51

    At work until 11:30pm last night, back in by 8:30am.  (I started at 7:30am
    that day).  Tonight I worked until 3am.  I have to be back in the morning
    sometime, I'm aiming for 10am.

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     1:Why the push?
     2:end

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    Message: 8728
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: The shoot...
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 08:24:43

            Let me say this about the GT.  I know this is NOT my GT and maybe I
    should not say anything, but... Get Togethers this late in the year (Dec)
    very seldom work out.  Sandy and I are also fighting back a cold (flu? hope
    not) and feel rather run down.  Sandy is worse off, as she works long hours.

            I would suggest for a better turn out, that the end of the first
    month or sometime in the second month (or even later) may be better.  But,
    this is not up to me...  Just my two cents worth!

            Also, I do not seem to recall seeing a location.  Rod's suggestion
    is out of the question as the smog downtown will kill us for sure.  I would
    like to see one where we can grill hot-dogs for the shooters.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- party pooper

    Message: 8729
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: Where?  When?
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:02:35

    We'd better get something decided on the Shoot-Out GT.  My wife wants to go
    up north with the in-laws to despoil the environment of one more scrawny,
    misshapen weed she'll call a Christmas tree sometime this weekend.  I need
    to know what's when.

    Message: 8730
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: Where? When?
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:56:07

    Under the circumstances maybe we should wait for a while.  Now I've got two
    Christmas parties this weekend.  One on Saturday and one on Sunday.

    Message: 8731
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: Geezz
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:13:06

    Sure, as soon as I push for a realization of this dream GT, it falls to
    pieces...
    :)
    Actually, I don't mind waiting since there are plenty of things for me to do
    that I have been putting off.  And the holidays do get in the way of things,
    now don't they?

    Message: 8732
    Author: $ Gordon Little
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Melissa
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:11:19

    Yes, you're *so* right!  Holidays especially get in the way of WORK!  It's a
    real pain.  It's a special pain to the people you work *for*, who
    unfortunately are often workaholics themselves...

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     1:How can a day be holy?
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    Message: 5178
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: 80268 PUB/Nick
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 05:53:37

            If you don't call one male butt-fucking another male immoral,  then
    what do you call it?

            Personaly... I don't care what they do, but when MY TAX dollars are
    spent to make it SAFE for them to play their unnatural games, I have the
    RIGHT to barf and say a few words to express my disapproval.

            I knotice on the PUBlic board you keep referring to media hype and
    death 'estimates' as FACT.  ???  The ONLY fact *I* can see, is that someone
    has made this (wild?) estimate of projected deaths from the AIDS virus.
    These are NOT facts, but CONJECTURE.  When they are dead and buried, you may
    call them 'facts'.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    P.S.  By the way Niiiiick...  You're a BUM

    Message: 5179
    Author: $ Green Lantern
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Melissa/Alliteration
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 08:45:36

    Yes, indeed. I went back and re-read the beginning of the piece. Lot's of
    b's, bub !!!

    Message: 5181
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Bees
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:14:57

    Yeah, I sort of forgot that thread as the story progressed.  It might be fun
    to try a whole story that way, but it'd be hard to take it seriously.

    Gordon:  nice try....NOT

    Message: 5182
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:16:03

    I don't see anything immoral about anal intercourse.  Many folks would agree
    with you, and yet I'm sure many would agree with me.
    Different strokes...

    Message: 5183
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Dee on anal
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:34:57

            Anal intercourse is not natural.  The rear end is not even designed
    for such usage and can be damaged severely.  Hence, it is immoral.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    Message: 5184
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Design?
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 21:46:00

    Who's the Architect?  I have a few suggestions for improvements.

    Message: 5185
    Author: $ Gordon Little
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:13:43

    Do you think it's immoral to damage one's own body voluntarily?

    Where do tattooing and ear piercing fit?

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     1:  The liver can be damaged severely by drinking alcohol.  I guess that would
     2:make drinking immoral.
     3:  The lungs can be damaged severely by smoking cigarettes.  I guess....
     4:well, you get the idea.
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     6:  This stinking cesspool of a planet is immoral.
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    Message: 1983
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: Blowing Smoke
    Subject: Sandy
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 05:58:43

            Not *my* Sandy, but my brother's Sandy has given up smoking now for
    over a month.  She said the other day she is now suddenly starting to feel
    better and has more energy.  Congrats to Brother Bob's Sandy Kolostow.
    Brother Bob does not, nor has ever smoked...  except for a joint or two when
    we were young.  That's another story... (stupidity)

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    Message: 1984
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Blowing Smoke
    Subject: last
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 06:29:24

    Congratulations to Sandy, and to everyone who has had the intelligence and
    fortitude to put the weeds down for good!
     How long has it been now for you, Annie gal? Keep it up!

    Message: 1985
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Blowing Smoke
    Subject: MY brother
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:18:34

    has been trying since about August.  He will go for weeks without a puff and
    then will buy a pack, smoke one, then throw the pack away.  Over
    Thanksgiving weekend, however, he smoked 4 in a row before coming down to
    visit our mother.

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     1:Has anyone been smoking this Phoenix haze?
     2:end

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    Message: 80268
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: AIDS/immorality
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 05:01:50

    You can't cure immorality?  Are you saying that AIDS is a disease of
    immorality, and less than moral behavior should be punishable by death?  I
    think your attitude is morally bankrupt.

    Message: 80269
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Fred
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 06:14:29

    You ask how "one" indentifies righteous people. The answer is probably so
    simple that you won't accept it, but I'll try anyway. "One" doesn't. God
    does. TO identify anyone as righteous OR unrighteous is, in fact,
    judgemental, and that is not really a prerogative of man. It is God's job,
    and His alone. The reason for this is that righteosness is really a matter
    of the spirit, not always necessarily the outward works, although it SHOULD
    show in the works of the individual. WHile all we can see is the works, God
    alone knows the heart. I hope that has answered your question.
     Since I have not bashed your unbelief, please respond in kind, and don't
    use this as another excuse to bash my belief. Thanks.

    Message: 80270
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: War!
    Subject: ANN!
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:01:34

    > I can say I personaly know several woman, that a few years ago
    > wouldn't have thought about sleeping around and they do now.

    You really should get smarter friends, Ann.

    > ...we do not agree what so ever.

    I wish I could do more to help you see the light.

    > ...if one asked how did Magic get AIDS, [Bill] believes in
    > lying to them telling them "NO one knows for sure"!!!

            As to the substance of this comment, I maintain that no one, not
    even Magic, KNOWS how he contracted the HIV.  We can make good guesses, but
    NO ONE KNOWS.  Interesting how willing you are to accept media speculation
    when it suits your purpose.
            Beyond that, I do not appreciate you calling me a liar, Ann.  This
    has been an enjoyable and invigorating discussion.  You have dragged it down
    to a personal level.  This is a shame.  I'll have nothing more to say on the
    subject.  At least not to you.  There's no point.

    Message: 80271
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gordon on Kids
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:26:55

    I'm sorry Gordon. It isn't often that I disagree with you so strongly, but I
    just cannot believe that the .... "reporter is doing the kid a favor by
    stimulating him to ask questions". I don't think parents send their kids to
    school to have them make statements to the press. If that had happened to
    one of my children, out of general principal, whether he/she knew all about
    AIDS, gays, etc. - I'd raise holy heck. Years ago they gave my kid an I.Q.
    test without my permission and wouldn't give me the results. I don't feel
    that was within their rights either. As long as parents don't abuse their
    children outright, it is their responsibility and no one else's to teach
    those children how and what they want them to know. Not my neighbor's
    responsibility and certainly not a reporter. I'm an advocate of 'people
    minding their own business'. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 80272
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Fred #80249
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:38:19

    Well - I must say that I don't disagree with all you said there. The only
    thing I do is with the media hype. The media is 'faddie' - they keep things
    up front to sell papers. Well that's understandable, but they go too far. I
    think with this AIDS thing - as deadly and threatening as it is - could be,
    they are scaring the hell out of us for very little reason - at least at
    this point. Someone dies from it for example and we are treated to 'his last
    moments of life'! If some innocent child has it, they hype that until we are
    all crying. But it is rare to get it innocently! Yet with all the hype, we
    are scared to get near an AIDs patient - we want our doctors and dentists to
    wear gloves and heaven help us if we need a transfusion. Because of the
    latter, some people have died because they wouldn't get a transfusion, yet
    it is very safe to do so now. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 80273
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mike on AIDS
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:42:07

    # 80251 - thanks for the post about where the money is going. I agree with
    you 1,000%. I just can't believe that they also want to pull monies off of
    other research also. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 80274
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cat on men
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:42:58

    Sure, men are the head of the household - as long as he does what the woman
    says. :-) -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 80275
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Melissa
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:50:41

    AIDS IS a preventable disease - the people that die from heart disease and
    cancer brought on by smoking is preventable ---- BUT ----- how about the
    hundreds of thousands of people that die from those 2 diseases that don't
    smoke?? That aren't in contact with second hand smoke? You don't contact
    AIDS by standing next to a person with it! You get AIDS for the most part by
    putting your sexual organ into someone else's sexual organ by mutual
    agreement. If the zipper remains 'zipped' and the panties remain 'up' ...
    ... VOILA ... it's a MIRACLE! The dreaded disease is cured!!! Praise God!
                                   -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 80276
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Peter on AIDS
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:56:54

    I absolutely think we should NOT IGNORE AIDS! I never said we should.
    I just believe it is over-hyped and we are following right along with it.
                                 -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 80277
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Nick
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 10:03:20

    As much as this will probably stick in your craw - a little morality would
    go a LONG way in curing the AIDS problem. You see - we have made a dirty
    word out of the word 'morality' and have made the 'F' word exceptable and
    that is exactly what is wrong! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 80278
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bill/last
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 10:07:05

    What a bunch of horse feathers that post was. You can dish it out but can't
    take it. Remember, you said of one of my post that is was baloney.
    I think you like to argue for argument's sake. Talk about no point.
                                -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 80279
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Terry Anderson
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 11:12:17

            If the imformation is correct, Terry Anderson (the last hostage) has
    been released today.  I sure hope this will end the nightmare this country
    has been going though for the last decade.

            I wish all the hostages a happy home coming....

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- In 'God' We Trust

    Message: 80280
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Pete
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:34:36

    Re:  You can't cure ignorance either.  It's lethal but kills much more
    slowly.

    Hmmmmmm. Maybe we should pull all the funds going for AIDS and put it into a
    cure for stupidity?  The only problem with that is what one man calls stupid
    another man calls smart and vice versa.

    Message: 80281
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Peter
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:41:19

    Re:  Finding a cure/vaccination is a matter of time we don't have.

    Who doesn't have the time?  I've got all the time in the world.  If we don't
    find a cure for the next 100 years it won't effect me or most of the people
    I know one little bit.

    Now there is a certain category of people who don't have the time.  All we
    need to do is teach them what safe sex is.  Oh, I forgot.  Teaching them
    safe sex doesn't work very well.  Most of them already know, but don't
    practice it anyway.

    Message: 80282
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bill
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:45:54

    Re:  I maintain that no one, not even Magic, KNOWS how he contracted the
    HIV.

    I would suppose that no one, not even you, KNOWS that your name is Bill.

    But it seems pretty obvious.

    It would also seem pretty stupid to question either what your name is or as
    to how Magic contracted HIV.

    Message: 80283
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:52:34

    Re:  You see - we have made a dirty word out of the word 'morality' and have
    made the 'F' word exceptable

    Excellent point Annie!  At one time a chaste person was honorable, and the
    adulterer was condemned.  Now it seems to be the other way around.  Sad.

    Message: 80284
    Author: $ Green Lantern
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: AIDS NO EFFECT
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:07:56

    I love these guys who think AIDS is not going affect them. Well, my good
    man, when our hospitals are full of AIDS patients and we have a medical
    crisis that will mean a health crisis for all because our health care system
    has broken down because we have millions of AIDS patients requiring
    intensive care, YOU WILL BE AFFECTED.

    If we have a cure for AIDS this crisis can be averted.

    Message: 80285
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:30:22

    Show me the statistics that there are "hundreds of thousands" of people that
    die each year from those two diseases that didn't get it from a smoking
    related cause, and I will just as sympathic.  Unless of course, they are
    overweight...
    The problem seems to lie with this:  everyone is upset about the money.
    Well, if AIDS is the biggest problem right now, then I think the money
    should be put towards it's research, proportional to the other diseases.
    But AIDS may not be the biggest problem.  It's still heart disease.
    I don't know.  It's all petty.  One will want the money to go to the disease
    that is effecting them the most.  It's just a matter of personal perception.

    I'm going to bed.  Night night

    Message: 80286
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mr Lantern
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:43:20

            Our hospitals will never be full of AIDS patients as you have
    suggested.  If I recall correctly, you predicted our hospitals were going to
    be full of G.I.s from the Iraq war... along with many thousands of body
    bags.  I think you over-react Mr Lantern.   Hmmm, you might make money as a
    newspaper reporter...

    Message: 80287
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Terry Anderson
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 21:42:35

    Just a little correction to the Sysop's announcement of Mr. Anderson's
    release.  He is the last *American* to be released.  There are, I
    understand, two Germans still in captivity.

    Message: 80288
    Author: $ Gordon Little
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Beau
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:27:42

    Thank you for pointing that out.  It's easy to miss a little point like
    that, because foreigners aren't really very important, are they?

    On 28th of June (I think), I put up a few posts recalling the assassination
    of Franz Ferdinand and his wife 77 years previously, and noted that it might
    not be the last time Serbian ambitions would lead to serious trouble.  Oddly
    enough, there wasn't one single comment.

    Subsequently I had a curious experience.  I went to Europe in September, and
    I got the impression that a civil war had broken out in Yugoslavia exactly
    at the time I arrived there.  It was on the front pages of all the
    newspapers (including the International Herald Tribune), almost every day
    for over two weeks.

    It seemed to die down the instant I arrived back in the U.S.  It certainly
    didn't *end*, because now I was *noticing* those news items about bombing
    and hundreds of civilians being killed, tucked away on page 3 and page 7.
    But when I dug back through the older newspapers, I now realized that this
    catastrophic event was going on all the time really.  It just wasn't deemed
    worthy of the front page in a U.S. newspaper at the time.

    Message: 80289
    Author: $ Gordon Little
    Category: Drug Talk
    Subject: Blowing smoke
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:29:55

    So if people didn't smoke, 1 in 6 deaths would be *prevented*.  Wow!
    Immortality is something we've *never* achieved before -- even if it is only
    for one person in six!

    Message: 80290
    Author: $ Gordon Little
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Ann/Kids' Press Conf
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:31:18

    I'm trying to understand what it is you're afraid of.  As I mentioned
    before, I didn't see this TV interview so I don't know precisely what was
    said; but the impression I got was that reporters asked the kids whether
    they knew about Magic Johnson's illness, and if they knew what it was, and
    what they thought and felt about it all.  The kids talked back and gave
    their opinions.  There was a two-way information flow, but I inferred that
    most of it came from the kids -- since the reporters commented on how
    knowledgeable they were.  It didn't sound as if reporters were "educating"
    the kids, or telling them "you get AIDS from anal intercourse", or whatever.

    So what precise element of this procedure don't you like?  You think kids
    shouldn't be allowed to make statements to the press?  Why shouldn't they?
    Do you think it's exploiting kids by making them look bad in public?  How?
    Are you afraid it's going to reflect badly on their parents in some way?
    How?  This interview doesn't seem to have made either of them look bad.
    Anyway, freedom of speech is a right protected by the First Amendment.  I
    don't remember anything about an age limit in there.

    I'd object to reporters prying out information about the kids' families and
    broadcasting it.  That would be exploiting kids' naivete to invade the
    privacy of others.  But that isn't what they did.  What they asked the kids
    about was entirely in the public domain.  If you think the reporters should
    have minded their own business, whose privacy do you think was violated, and
    how?  What private information was published that shouldn't have been?

    Message: 80291
    Author: $ Gordon Little
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Ann (2/2)
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:32:30

    Do you think this was a kind of testing procedure like the IQ test they gave
    your child?  In a way I suppose it was.  I wouldn't object to tests, since
    they're a necessary way of getting feedback about how well education is
    working.  I would object violently to having the results deliberately kept
    secret from me, since I'm paying the educators.  But nothing was kept secret
    in this interview.

    Do you object to reporters asking children math or geography questions at
    random, to demonstrate how much or how little they know of these subjects?
    I wouldn't have any objection to this.  I think it's useful and a matter of
    public interest to know how well children are being educated.  If they come
    off badly, the public *ought* to know, so that they can demand that the
    educators they're paying get off their butts and do their job -- or so that
    parents themselves can do something about teaching their children.

    Or is your real objection to the fact that somebody *told* these kids of the
    existence of AIDS, or sex, or something related to it?  I noted carefully
    your assertion that "it is [parents'] responsibility and no one else's to
    teach those children how and what they want them to know."  Well, I agree
    that it's the parents' responsibility to teach a child what they want them
    to know.  But they can *always* exercise that right.  Who's stopping them?
    Or are you telling me that a parent should *also* have the right to keep a
    child in total ignorance?  If so, that's quite a different argument.

    Message: 80292
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: On the Lighter Side
    Subject: AIDS, a cure?
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 23:40:29

    What I think about anal intercourse, by Rod Williams

    I think poop comes out of there....well, I know for a fact that poop
    comes out of there.  The anus is a release point for toxins and waste.
    Why would someone want to put a penis in one?  A penis has two main
    purposes, one is for taking a pee, which humans do more often than the
    second purpose......cuming.  Climaxing is totally natural but often is
    forced because of false leads to the brain box.  In a natural
    environment the female secrets a chemical that can drive a man wild,
    wild, wild, beyond belief.  This odor is a natural arousal to
    hetro-sexuals and bi-sexuals.  But because we live in a less than
    perfect environment, we haven't gotten it right.  Sex seems to be more
    of a pastime because of un-natural stimuli found in our society.  The
    way we look at sex is tainted by a society who bases wealth on it.
    Peep show 25 cents.

    Sex is okay, and since it is the thing that feels best, most like
    a mental heaven, then we become addicted to it.  Friendship is the
    very best.  A mental climax is ten times more powerful and lasts for
    weeks, even months.  That is when your minds meld and you know you are
    friends.  Those who marry for a steady supply of sex should cultivate
    that which transcends it, friendship.  Friendship is knowing that you
    are one, that all are one.  That you cannot love one friend more than
    another, that no one is the greater.

    Message: 80293
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: On the Lighter Side
    Subject: Just perhaps!
    Date: 12/04/91  Time: 23:41:23

    I explained to Jasmine, when we first met, that the love that I have
    in me for her, is the love I have in me for everyone.  It is the same.
    I cannot love one individual more than I can love the whole.

    This is a mental climax when this knowledge is shared.  And share that
    climax with all your friends, men, women, goats,.......and please, do
    not forget the cow.

    Moo!!

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