### Apollo BBS Archive - October 4, 1988

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    Message: 4374
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 01:47:55

            Looks like the best thing for you, Rod, would be to sew you mouth
    shut and tie yours fingers together .....

            By the way, do you type with you toes?

    Message: 4375
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 05:44:58

    More friendships have been marred and more damage done to interpersonal
    relationships due to the lack of expressive nuances on these BBSes than
    probably any other reason.
     When all we have are the words, without the twinkles, smiles, etc. that are
    also a vital part of effective communication, we tend to put our own
    interpretation on the words alone, and many times miss the gist of the
    message.
    I'm sure that you are very proud of your kids, as well you should be, and
    want nothing but the best for them.
    It's just too bad, for their sake, that you have such a negative outlook on
    life in general and our future in particular. A more positive and uplifting
    environment would help them achieve so much more. (It wouldn't hurt you
    either, believe it or not.)

    Message: 4376
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Carter/B&O
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 06:07:00

    Bang and Olufsen is Danish, not German.  Expensive stuff.  I was looking at
    some of it last week.  Very stylish, but I have no idea if it's worth it or
    not.

    Message: 4377
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: David - Calif.
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 08:34:30

    I changed my mind about going there. Too afraid of earthquakes! Guess I'll
    stick it out here with all the Militant Republicans! They still beat all the
    'Crazies' in California. Ta, ta. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4378
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 18:18:59

    Besides, we don't like smokers.

    Message: 4379
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Paul on Rod
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 20:02:44

    Rod is one of these people who takes great pleasure in complaining about
    things.

    Message: 4380
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Music
    Subject: B & O stuff
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 21:07:45

    Quite correct Dave... I had the Ham radio swap net going on in the
    background and they were discussing the problems with German 80 meter
    contacts.
    I'm no audiophile by any stretch of the imagination, but I do know my
    circuitry and love the good engineering design of B&O.
    True about the furniture, although quite a bit to "Euro" for my tastes,
    the B&O static speakers remind me of black rail road ties.
    Monster cable quality has picked up somewhat from the time we found
    a whole shipment of their stuff totally inadequate for use; things like
    burrs on the jacks, cuts (very very fine ones) in the middle of the cables
    and last but not least, at least one installation had to be totally
    refurbished because the cable was shorted.
    Simplicity is the key to success in any business and if I had my druthers,
    give me a wire-recorder any day.

            -Mike

    Message: 4381
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: 55 mph limit
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 21:38:20

    I'm pretty sure that one can be attributed to Ford, not Nixon.

    Message: 4382
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann/Type
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 23:22:25

            I type with my tongue.

    Message: 4383
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 23:26:08

            I, within my being, am very positive.  Outwardly, I am positive.
    I am just saddened that this world is not a happy one because it could be.
    There are no laws that say to the contrary.
            By the way, I was at a store this evening and I saw the Sun
    Newspaper on the rack.  The major headline said, "Lottery Numbers Revealed
    in the Bible."
                                            Rod

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    Message: 1030
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Doodle
    Subject: test upload
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 23:01:47

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    -Mike

    Message: 1031
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff - lines
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 23:03:34

    What is the column width here ?
    It acts as if it's 77
            -Mike

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    Message: 2061
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Beyond...
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 01:59:30

            There is Peace in Strength.........

    Message: 2062
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: $#!+
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 02:45:57

    Watch it. I have some very greasy friends.

    Message: 2063
    Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
    Category: Beyond...
    Subject: Sandy/post
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 07:14:02

    Remember.......Sandy

    It was Hitler who promoted "Strength Through Joy!"

    See Y'aa.............

    Jeannie

    Message: 2064
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 18:30:19

    And it was the weakness of the European states, both militarily and in
    diplomatic resolve, that allowed him to wreak havoc.
    The European states and Stalin, of course.

    Message: 2065
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Hitler
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 20:03:59

    Don't even think of lionizing Hitler.

    Message: 2066
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Peace
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 21:09:41

    It is a widely proven and old fact that accomplishing peace through
    the use of superior fire power will inevitably repeat itself.

    Message: 2067
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Up Yours
    Subject: Carter/last
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 21:41:31

    Shut up, you warmonger.  We should work for world peace and total
    disarmament.

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    Message: 54445
    Message: 54444
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: VOTE
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 23:00:45

          I was a participant in a national, telephone survey, this past
    week.  A woman, phoning from Philadelphia, asked me about 20 questions,
    all pertaining to national politics.  What amazed me is when she was
    questioning me about my choice for the office of president, I was only
    given two choices, Bush or Dukakis, Democrat or Republican.
          I was asked the usual questions about race, religion, education
    and income.  The choices of religion was just that, there were no
    mention of atheist or even agnostic, let alone SubGenius.
          I completed the interview and I voted for "None of the Above"
    and gave Ron Paul, the Libertarian a mention.  I gave her a hard time
    about their choices of religions.  I was glad I voted.
                                    Rod

    Message: 54445
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 02:42:15

    Kind of makes you proud to have a telephone, doesn't it?

    Message: 54446
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Zak
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 05:36:28

    Why, thank you Zak, for the kind review. It came at a time when it seemed
    that just about everybody was on my case, so it was much appreciated.
    Your review of Cliff's posts were also very good. Practically took the words
    out of my keyboard.
    Have a great week.

    Message: 54447
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Hey Cliff!
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 08:12:31

    I like your posts and your smile! I might not agree with them all - but
    that make's it fun. How boring this board would be if we all agreed.
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54448
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: News Today
    Subject: In the paper
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 08:29:13

    Did anyone read about the League of Woman voters vetoing sponsering the next
    debate? Nancy Neuman, the spokes person for the League said "We have no
    intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American
    public"! She went on to say "the agreement dictates who the questioners will
    be, sets the format, determines the makeup of the audience and even
    specifies the allowable camera positions"!
    This isn't a debate - this is a choriographed (sp) movie that ought to be
    filmed in Hollywood - directed by Lucas or Spielburg. You know - fantasy!
    They could add a 'Grimlin' or two and even 'E.T.' to liven it up.
    Why bother looking at the next one? It certainly won't give us a true
    picture of what our choice stands for. Cliff - JT - Paul -- why are you guys
    going to vote for these dudes? Just because they are Republican and
    Democrats is no reason. Do you really want either of these to run the
    country for the next 4 years? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54449
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Alpo Poet
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 10:33:00

    Welcome back.  I was afraid you'd defected and we weren't ever going to hear
    from you again!  On the subject of your posts, there's a lot of sense in
    them.  However I'm a little bothered that they only seem to report lapses in
    the American and Western press and government.

    Wouldn't an unbiased opinion take into consideration all the censorship and
    abuses of government in the Russian/Warsaw Pact press and systems too?

    Message: 54450
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 11:46:58

    Alpo Poet is someone else.  I think you're referring to Apro Poet.  (Not to
    be confused with Afro Poet.)

    Message: 54451
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Project Censored
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 17:52:43

    Space shuttle to carry lethal plutonium

      Despite warnings of a possible disaster, NASA is pursuing
    plans to launch the Project Galileo shuttle space probe,
    which will carry enough plutonium to endanger every person
    on earth.  Theoretically, one pound of plutonium uniformly
    distributed could give everyone on the planet a fatal case
    of lung cancer.  Galileo will have 49.25 pounds of plutonium
    on board, most of it plutonium 238, a radioisotope 300 times
    more radioactive than that used to fuel atomic bombs.
      Critics of the plan, such as Dr. John Gofman, professor of
    medical physics at the University of California, Berkeley,
    and Michio Kaku, professor of nuclear physics at the City
    University of New York, claim that putting Galileo's
    plutonium payload into space is both risky and unnecessary.
    The plutonium will be used to fuel "radioisotope
    thermoelectric generators," which keep instrumentation warm.
    Although NASA and the Department of Energy say there are no
    alternatives, Kaku asserts that solar cells could generate
    electricity as far away as Jupiter, Galileo's destination.
      NASA downplays the possibility of accident, stressing that
    the plutonium will be encapsulated in "clads" made from
    iridium alloy in a graphite shell, which the DOE contends can
    withstand explosive pressures up to
    2,200 pounds per square inch.  However, a DOE safety analysis
    report on the Galileo mission states that the most critical
    accidents would occur on the launch pad, where accidents can
    generate explosive pressures as high as 19,600 pounds per
    square inch.
      Once in space, Galileo is still potentially dangerous.
    Since its solid-fuel rocket does not have the power of the
    Challenger's Centaur rocket, NASA devised a plan to use the
    earth's gravitational pull to increase the rocket's momentum
    enough to reach Jupiter.  During the "flyby" orbits around
    the earth, Galileo would at times be only 277 miles overhead.
    A 1987 NASA report estimates the chance of Galileo
    inadvertently reentering the earth's atmosphere to be less
    than one in a million, and so discredits the possibility of
    an accident.  But then NASA estimated the chance of a shuttle
    accident at one in 100,000 for the Challenger, and
    investigations following the crash put the figure at closer
    to one in 25.
      Although this was also one of Project Censored's top 10
    overlooked stories in 1986, the media's continued failure to
    draw attention to Project Galileo's risks fully warrants its
    renomination for 1987.
    Sources: *The Nation*, Jan. 23, 1988, "The Space Probe's
    Lethal Cargo," by Karl Grossman; *L.A. Times*, Feb. 6, 1986.

    Message: 54454
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Jones #54449
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 18:08:35

      Regarding your idea about disclosing "Russian/Warsaw Pact
    Press" censorship cases - Sounds like a fantastic idea!
    I'll be looking forward to your first installment.
         Apro Poet

    Message: 54455
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Woodruff
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 19:59:41

    Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me!

    Message: 54456
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 20:00:13

    I'm voting for Bush because he's much better than the other candidate.

    Message: 54457
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Today's My B-Day
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 20:25:31

    So I am a big 19 now...  Anyone got any advice that they feel I should know?

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    Message: 54458
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff / (+:}
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 20:27:06

    Put it back on there!!!!!   I can't BELIEVE that YOU gave in so easy, didn't
    put up a fight, no comments, OR ANYTHING!   Are you O.k.?????????

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    Message: 54459
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Pauls snivelling
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 21:00:16

    Oh quit whining you poor old fart.
    Quit trying to bear your self made cross of public crucification, it makes
    your posts look so pathetic.
    Again, as is your style, your attacking the person responsible for
    provinding a challenge, taunt and debate rather than approach the issues
    logically and take each issue point by piont. You make a fine example of
    todays democrat.
    Heap as much of your holy blessings of love upon me as much as you wish,
    it doesn't change much but probably degrade God.
    Attachment of 32 years of uncomplaining service to your childish prattle
    isn't a response. 32 Years of service to *any* organization is commendable
    and your retirement is well deserved. However, the same Paul Savage that
    tried to make folks believe postal workers weren't paid over minimum wage
    is the one I question of his honesty. I don't think you have the backbone
    to enter a good debate. You're well practiced at hiding behind a veil of
    pompous self indignation.
                    -Mike

    Message: 54460
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Zak
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 21:11:56

    Hold your mouth open for a sec..my wolf wants to barf in it.

    Message: 54461
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carter/last two
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 21:35:55

    True to form, no surprises there.

    Message: 54462
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: For sale
    Subject: MacIntosh
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 23:11:15

    Mac 512K with internal and one external 400K 3 /12 inch disk drive
    Software, books and of course the mouse.

    Great for doing resumes or artwork and taking to AlphaGraphics for print-out
    on Laser printer.

    Asking $750.00

    Contact through mail  to Mike Carter.

    Message: 54463
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Chris/B-day advice
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 23:34:42

            Yeah, switch hands ocassionally, become ambi-dexterous.

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    Message: 332
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: Story
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 01:21:58

            She could not bring herself to accept the answer ..........
    "Cliff is havin' an affair!" she thinks to herself as she muffles her
    screams of horror. If it wasn't for the many unanswered questions involving
    the mysterious Apollo murders Ms. Sysop would have committed her own this
    evening.
            Sleep was impossible now. Sandy arose from her bed, the very same
    bed that Cliff uttered words of Love and Devotion to his beloved. She dawned
    her super-sleuth outfit and made her way back to the cemetery. Too many
    unexplained happenings have occured these past few weeks. There is a RAT in
    the attic and Sandy has sworn to break the ice.
            After talking with Digger she went to David Burkhart's grave. There
    she stood in the dark, damp, dismal cemetery looking over his grave
    wondering how he could sculth about the town unnoticed. A moment of weakness
    overtakes the wonder woman. Her encounter with Cliff earlier this evening
    comes to mind. A gust of wind whisks away her tear stained handkerchief.
    The woman of all women turns around to capture her only means of eliminating
    the snot out of her nose.
            The moon shines upon an object from behind her. She stops her chase
    and concentrates on the one piece of brightness in this dismal place.
            "Eureka!" she exclaimes.
            With that shrill cry in the night Digger rushes out only to find
    Sandy digging away with her trusty garden trowl. Digger reaches out to stop
    the desecration, but stops.

    Message: 333
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: Story
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 01:41:31

            Sandy raises not one but two skulls above her head. "Eureka!" she
    exclaims again. Digger draws closer to examine this unusual find.
            "Why," says Digger. "There shouldn't be two here."
            Sandy digs on through the decaying mass of flesh. She uncovers a
    ring along with a credit card. Digger examines the finds. The ring could be
    from the original occupant of the grave and the the credit card ........
    why Digger and Sandy both knew who that belonged to..... DAVID. Now Digger
    involves himself with the unearthing of the corpes stopping occasionally to
    swallow a worm or two.
            They both realized now that David's corpse was not responsible for
    the brutal slayings of the Apolloites. If not David, then who? A warm
    feeling overwhelms the Mighty Sysopette as she realizes the mind behind
    these bloody, sensless killings was one of cunning. Only a mind full of hate
    and vengeance coupled with a patient twisted desire to wipe out the thorns
    these bloodied Apolloites pricked him/her with could plan and carry out
    his/her acts of brutality.
            Sandy hands Digger the garden trowel. "I must be gone, Digger. I
    must put a stop to this maniac." With that Sandy hurries to .......

    Message: 334
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: story
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 08:50:55

    .. the side of her beloved Cliff. By the time she gets there, she is almost
    babbling.
    "Calm down darling", says Cliff soothingly.
    "Oh Cliff! I think I know who has been committing this grisly murders! We
    must have an immediate meeting of what is left of the Apollo members! I MUST
    tell them of my suspicions before another foul murder occurs. PLEASE Cliff,
    call them up right now! You may be saving a life!"
    "Ok. OK! Just calm down. I'll do it right now"!

    The ancient phone rings across town in the small, ugly shack of the grave
    Caretaker. Digger has just got back from his rounds and was sitting down
    eating his What-A- Burger when the phone jarred him. He picked it up and
    said 'Hello. Digger here. What do you want?"
    "Digger, this is Cliff. Sandy wants to have an emergency meeting of all
    Apollo member right away. Can you get here fast?"
    "Yeah, I guess I can, but what's it all about'?
    "She claims to know who is committing these murders and wants us to get
    together and stop them."
    "Ok. I'll be right there" and hangs up the phone.
    Digger continued to eat his burger.

    Message: 335
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: story
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 09:11:30

    He went to his small ice box and grabbed a coke and guzzled it down in one
    swallow and went back over and sat down.
    "Damn, I'm too tired to go clear over there this time of night! Sandy don't
    know nothing! Let them have their meeting. It will solve nothing!"
    Digger was opening another What-A-Burger when he suddenly started to smell
    something awful and his stomach lerched! He slowly turned and saw in the
    door way a huge, hidious dead thing that took up the space from door frame
    to door frame. Before he could empty his bowels, he saw a flash of red and
    then he went to meet his Maker!

    Two days later when the police went to the caretaker's shack, they found a
    gigantic red penis. They had called in the bomb squad to open it because it
    had been ticking, but only found a toy gun attached to batteries that caused
    it to tick, but they also found something else. Digger, aka James Hawley,
    was found stuffed inside - he was devoid of his male sex organ and
    testicles! They had been whacked off with something sharp and jagged. Later,
    one of the policemen found them laying on the roof of the caretaker's shack.
    Someone had painted them red and left them out to dry and dehydrate! It
    wasn't until weeks later did they connect this bazarre murder to the other
    Apollo murders.

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    Message: 54464
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Story
    Date: 10/04/88  Time: 23:40:31

          Because the majority of humans fear that which is known as
    death, because they do not have an understanding of what we refer to
    as life, insanity runs rampant in our little world.
          The fear of the unknown is perhaps our greatest fear especially
    when the unknown is unknowable.
          People, because of the above-described condition, are prone to
    be gullible where fairy-tale answers are given in order to account for
    the unknown.  Sure, I'd like to go into a beautiful state at the
    moment of physical death, who wouldn't.   (to be continued)

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