### Apollo BBS Archive - April 27, 1989

    Computer Hacker SIG Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 163
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: ST & Atari
    Subject: Disk speed
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 08:20:41

            I have a program that will show your disk speed.  I'll upload it to
    the ibrary here.  The operation of it is pretty self-explainitory.

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    Message: 164
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: ST & Atari
    Subject: DSPEED.PRG
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 10:19:32

            You will find this DSPEED.PRG in the ibrary.
    Uploaded by Alan Hamilton 04/27/89.

            Shows the rotation speed of the disk drive.

    Cliff

    Message: 165
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Bit Bucket Talk
    Subject: dBase4 or 3+ ?
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 19:43:52

            Is there anyone out there good at programing in dBaseIII+ or
    dBase4?

    Cliff

    Message: 166
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Bit Bucket Talk
    Subject: Disk Speed
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:20:08

            Thank you.

    The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 3052
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Sandy/#3049
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 10:58:44

    Whitey's penis! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 3053
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Rod/bleeding Jesus
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 11:00:55

    You luck dog. I want one of the big ones too. Such class! Such elegance!
    Such 'state of the art'! -=*) ANN (*=-

    The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:EC

    Message: 3054
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Jesus
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:21:50

            Although James bought it in Costa Rica it was made in Sweden.  The
    Swedes probably made it as a joke and the Costa Ricians fell for it.  Funny.

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 58346
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Todd/Truth
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 01:08:29

    Surprise surprise!  I agree with all that you said!

    Message: 58347
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Truth
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 01:15:21

    I can't understand your line of reasoning.  If I ate an apple today it
    doesn't matter in the least who believes I ate an apple.  Even if everyone
    in the entire world denies I ate the apple it doesn't mean I didn't eat the
    apple.  Truth is truth and false is false.  Believing or disbelieving
    doesn't change it.  I guess I'm like Pulley in that I'm a simple country
    boy.  I can't comprehend truth not being truth.

    Message: 58348
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Ann/Gun Control
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 01:19:23

    I read the same article and thought it was so good that I thought about
    posting it on Apollo.  We do think alike sometimes.

    Message: 58349
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 01:20:50

    Re:  "Well, I'd rather spend eternity in the Lake of Fire than be impaled on
    a ski
    pole."

    That's illogical.

    Message: 58350
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Agnostic
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 01:27:08

    Re:  "Well that's fine, Bob, but if
    you have no solid proof then I'm afraid that in reality you are agnostic."

    Wrong!  The Bible says we must accept God by faith.  If I could prove God
    existed, it would no longer be faith.  No one can prove God exists.  If
    God's existence could be proven, only the dummies would be agnostic.  I
    accept God's existence by faith.  All Christians accept God by faith.

    Message: 58351
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Wrong!
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 01:28:59

    Re:  "Paul is an agnostic.  Fact is, so are you, Todd."

    Wrong!  Paul is a Christian; Todd is a Mormon!  Geesh!

    Message: 58352
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Dictionary
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 01:33:20

    Agnostic - Someone who believes that there can be no proof of the existence
    of God but does not deny the possibility that God exists.

    Hmmmmmmm.  Gee, what will they say at church when they find out I'm an
    agnostic.  Rod, you really got me in trouble this time.  (wring wring)

    Message: 58353
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/Morman
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 05:49:52

    Who said that a Morman is not a christian?
                !!!!SHOOT THEM ALL RALPH!!!!

    Message: 58354
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: J.T.
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 06:18:22

     Let's put it the way the Bible puts it, in Matthew I believe. Jesus Himself
    said  that if your eye becomes an offense, pluck it out, because it is
    better for you to go through life with one eye than to suffer eternity in
    the lake of fire. If your hand offends, cut it off, for it is better for you
    to go through life with one hand than to suffer eternity in the lake of
    fire.
     I do not know what portion of Lippard's anatomy was impaled, nor do I know
    the extent of the damage, but apparently he either has recovered or is
    recovering, with a reasonably good prognosis. In the meanwhile, according to
    reports I have read here, he is reconsidering his former atheistic position,
    and is at least attempting to find the reality of God in his life, even if
    he may be looking in the wrong direction.
     There is an old saying, (not necessarily Scriptural) t, that says the
    harder the head, the bigger the hammer you need. Perhaps Jim's accident was
    the hammer he needed to get God's message through his skull. If so, then
    some good has come from what could have been a real tragedy.
     At any rate, as I said in an earlier post, I wish Jim a speedy and complete
    recovery, and if the accident has given him cause to rethink his point of
    view concerning God, then praise the Lord.
    (Ann, you may consider this a response to your post as well.)

    Message: 58355
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Lucille Ball
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 06:20:46

     She will long be remembered for the genuine joy and laughter she has
    brought into 5 generations of homes around the world.
    Have a nice forever Lucy.

    Message: 58356
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 06:25:47

    I have consistently avoided discussing matters of faith with you, and will
    continue to do so, but when you  slander me with the label of agnostic, I
    must reply, for, as Scripture says, "I KNOW whom I have believed, and AM
    PERSUADED that HE is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him
    against that day."
     That, my unbelieving and unlearned friend, is faith in the living God and
    His living Son, in whom I live, anad breathe and have my being, and by whose
    Holy Spirit I am indwelt. Not a bit of doubt or question there.

    Message: 58357
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Faith
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 08:13:12

            There are lots of things that you can have faith in.  Why have faith
    in God, as opposed to Buddah, Allah, or Jim Jones?  I don't think you
    decided by tossing a coin or "eenie-meanie-minie-moe."  So, to all you
    theists, why did you pick the Christian God in particular to have faith in?

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    Message: 58358
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Entertainment/Movies
    Subject: Lucy
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 08:14:15

    "WHAAAAAAAAH!"

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     /  *  /  Alan
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    Message: 58359
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ralphy/#58353
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 10:42:06

    Dear Ralphy - I didn't not quite understand that message. Did you want to
    shoot all the Mormans or shoot all the Christians or both????
                     -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58360
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Entertainment/Movies
    Subject: Lucy
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 10:46:02

    Good bye old friend. I can't say I'll miss you because I see you everyday on
    channel five! But I wouldn't have minded if you'd of stuck around a little
    longer. (sob) -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58361
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Bob/faith
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 10:54:29

    How can something that is based on faith be an 'Absolute'? Truth?
    If Dick & Jane believe in Allah through faith - how do you know they are not
    right and you have choose the wrong faith?
    Also --- What if Jim Jones was indeed Christ incarnate and he deterred from
    His destiny? Couldn't Jesus have decided NOT to die on that cross if He
    wished? You know - free will etc! Just curious as to your thoughts.
                             -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58362
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Lucy
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 12:54:44

    I didn't like her.

    Message: 58363
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Last
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 14:11:33

    Did you want her to die?

    Message: 58364
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Thornburg
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 17:53:21

    How can a statement of preference be illogical?

    Message: 58365
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Savage
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 17:56:11

    What was the last part of your body you cut off?

    Message: 58366
    Author: $ Steve MacGregor
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Off the Subject
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 19:37:16

      "If thine appendix offend thee, pluck it out"?

    =========  Pascal  #(O,~)#  Wink!  MacProgrammer  =========

    Message: 58367
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 20:12:40

    Unless it's a sushi worm.

    Message: 58368
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Lucy
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 03:34:51

    I believe that "I Love Lucy" now has the distinction of being the first
    television program that airs regularly in which all the main characters are
    dead.

    Message: 58369
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/58350
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:27:49

            That's TOTALLY, TOTALLY, illogical.  In fact, your statement about
    accepting your God strictly on faith should win some sort of Apollo's
    Illogical Statement of the Year.  At least I nominate it as such.
            Since you only have faith that something (anything) is true then I
    know for certain that you are an agnostic.  Since you do not know, proof
    positive, since you only accept X on faith, admit that you are agnostic.
    Then you will have said something that IS truth.

    Message: 58370
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/Agnostic
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:29:49

            Sorry, I posted the last message before reading your 58352.  Have a
    good day.

    Message: 58371
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:32:35

            You are an agnostic.  And by the way, when I hear of someone who has
    turned to religion after a personal tragedy, I mark it up to temporary
    insanity.  Makes sense, doesn't it?   -Rod

    Message: 58372
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Alan/faith/Xtian God
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:35:00

            The majority of Americans pick the Christian God because we live in
    a predominately Christian Country.  However the non-conformists, those who
    are bent towards religion, usually pick a different oddball.  -Rod

    Message: 58373
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: All/Ralphy/shoot
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:37:09

            Ann, Ralph was pointing out that Mormons are Christian and I think
    that he wants to shoot ALL sects.  -Rod

    Message: 58374
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Lucy
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:38:33

            I'd bet that you were glad to get out of this place.  Thanks for the
    entertainment.  -Rod

    Message: 58375
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Accident
    Date: 04/28/89  Time: 04:41:17

          The other day I was within fifty feet of an accident involving
    a Datsun and a small boy, approximate age 10.  The boy was running
    across a street at a corner but not in a marked cross walk.  The auto
    was going about 35mph.  The auto hit the boy sending him into the
    windshield and then knocking him across two lanes of traffic, knocking
    his shoes off.  The boy was fairly bloody and was going into shock when
    I got to him.  Several people, myself included, helped comfort the boy
    until the paramedics arrived.  A Van Buren hooker was the first person
    on the scene and she gently kept the boy from moving around.  She kept
    his head from the pavement and said comforting words to him in order to
    help calm him down.  She had on a short mini-skirt and had no underware
    on.  At a time like that I doubt if anyone paid any real attention to
    her, including the police and medical personnel.  She was allowed to
    stay with the boy to the minute he was lifted into the ambulance.
          My question is this:  What did this small boy do that caused him
    to be hurt?  Did he deny Jesus or did he call God a nerd?  The driver
    of the auto, stopping as quick as possible, got out of the car and
    seeing what had happened, broke into hysterical sobs.  At least
    several others cried or simple turned away in order not to become
    emotionally involved.  Was this a test?   -Rod

    Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 298
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last on Rod...
    Date: 04/27/89  Time: 00:44:26

            That is a joke Rod, you are the most prejudiced person on this BBS
    as far as I know.....  Prejudiced against Christians.  You slam them at
    every opportunity for the mistakes of the few.  Just because one is a
    christian, does not make one perfect.  Just substitute the word 'BLACK' or
    'MEXICAN' for the word Christian in your past posts, and you will see what a
    biggot you really are.
            So I guess Earth is Hell because of people like yourself.... That is
    what you are saying.
            I don't care that you don't believe in Christ the Son of God, but I
    wish you would drop the insults of hate.  You insult us by belittling our
    ideals and beliefs..... as I am sure you will do in responce to this post.

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