### Apollo BBS Archive - May 13, 1989

    Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 03:49:19

    I think there will be an environmentally undamaging substitute for freon in
    the next five years or so. Vermont is the leader in outlawing flourocarbon
    use in auto air conditioners, and the automakers will have to respond.

    Meanwhile, we have sickos that rape and murder old, defenseless women.
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:        I was directly across the street from the 1st victim's house the day
     2:after she was murdered.  I was there to re-key an apartment.  I think the
     3:murderer is a real-estate broker who is hungry for listings.  I am staying
     4:fairly armed these days.   -Rod
     5:        P.S.  I hope you are correct about finding a safe substitute for
     6:freon.  Now all we have to do is go steam or battery for our auto's.

    Mail from Ann Oudin
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:04:33

    I know that Sandy does not hate you. When we are together and the subject of
    Apollo comes up, she always says nice, complimentary things about you. One
    thing for sure - she knows you keep Apollo going more times than not!

    Speaking of alias: Have you ever met Steve MacGrager the 'Hoot man' guy?
    I know I haven't and I don't recall anyone else telling me they have either.

    Prediction: You will win the story Kontest!

                                   -=*) ANN (*=-
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:        Steve has  been on the BBS scene for years.  He works for the FBI
     2:but don't get exicited.  It is only his company's initials.  It has to do
     3:with the computer business.
     4:        Why would you think that I would win the story contest.  It is nice
     5:of you to say that but the only good review I recived was from you.  Other
     6:than that there was no mention of it.  Paul, as recommended by Cliff,
     7:wouldn't even read the story.  Paul liked yours though.  He didn't
     8:understand the subtlities of Dean's story which I find amazing.  Sandy's and
     9:Jeannies story was so much mush but Gary's story was very well written but
    10:was a character assignation of sorts.
    11:        Oh well.   Thanks for the info.   -Rod

    Mail from Ann Oudin
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:44:11

    Are you talking about Cliff throwing out the Kontest because I don't like
    beauty contests? The next morning I had a post from him and he said he was
    only kidding and was trying to stir things up a bit. -=*) ANN (*=-
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:        I knew he was only kidding.  He was making a point.  I haven't been
     2:following the current debate because I got really sick in the middle of the
     3:week.  I got a bad sore throat.  I was reduced to eating pablum for two day
     4:because that is all I could swallow, that and luke warm water.  But now I am
     5:fine again, thanks in part to our family doctor calling me for an emergency
     6:job wherein he gave me some free medicine.

    Mail from James Taranto
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 14:16:59

    I didn't read any of the stories.
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:        Why didn't you read any of the stories?  Dean's story is really
     2:good.  The point is so hidden that Salvage's mind cannot comprehend it.  But
     3:on first glance it is obvious to a thinking person.  It deals with a new
     4:bible of sorts.  It seems that our world was destroyed then the new
     5:civilization found scraps of Apollo printouts, written by us, and were
     6:trying to go by them in their religious beliefs.  I mean, their beliefs were
     7:based on the writing of the old, destroyed civilization.  They put meanings
     8:to those printouts.  Dean did a good job.  Salvage's mind is dead.  -Rod
     9:
    10:P.S.  You should write a short story and enter it.  My story was interesting
    11:and I enjoyed writing it.  Ann's story was also interesting.

    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 5483
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod on Paul
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:31:25

    I think he will get the meaning of my story without any problem.

    Yeah Paul - you gotta read them all. Be fair. Their all excellant.
                             -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 5484
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann?
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 07:54:51

            Some writer...  You say "Their all excellant."    I think you really
    mean "They're all excellent" as in "They are all excellent."  The 'their'
    you used is to be possessive of, or belonging to.  Also note that your
    spelling of 'excellant' is incorrect.  That should be 'ent' as there is no
    'ant' in excellent.
            You had better get into a skimpy swimsuit and sell toilet bowl
    cleaner instead.  Writing is not your forte.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 5485
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/last
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:46:03

            You spelled your name incorrectly.

    Apollo Underground Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 181
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod on JT
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:32:07

    He has a memory like an elephant doesn't he? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 182
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: JT/elephant
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:47:43

    An elephant or perhaps a parrot?

    Creative Corner Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2233
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ralphy
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:35:24

    I'm glad you liked all the stories dear, but when it comes time for you to
    vote, please recall all those wonderful days we've spent together at my
    house playing all those games that Rose and Whitey know nothing about. The
    days that we were so close, you couldn't get a toothpick between us. Those
    intimate days in the small back room! Think on this when you go to vote.
                      -=*) ANN (*=- XXX OOO

    Message: 2234
    Author: $ Traci Sibel
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: lasty
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 09:57:13

    would that be considered 'bribery', 'blackmail', or 'begging'?
    Technicalities....

    Message: 2235
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Bribery
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 10:54:01

            Is considered to be a crime, and punishable with a month in the Zone
    for anyone convicted.

    Message: 2236
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:24:37

            Then it was either 'blackmail' or 'begging' ..........

    The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 3084
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Movie
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:37:00

    Come to think of it - I've never seen Deep Throat either! Can you rent it
    in the adult section of video stores? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 58686
    Author: Keith Holler
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: BBS
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 00:43:40

    --==** The Lost Boys BBS **==--

    is now back on line after a 4 year vacation. 64C based system - 300/1200 -
    278-0024. Give it a call.

                        Keith

    Message: 3085
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 15:43:27

    You should be able to.  It's a classic.  You'll never be able to drink Coke
    again without smiling.

    Message: 3086
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Deep Throat
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:30:14

            I have not seen it either.
    What is it about?
    Cliff will not let me see it, so I must turn to my fellow Apolloites.

    Odd, though ......... he saw Deep Throat ............

    Message: 3087
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: James/Debbie
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:34:20

            I have not the foggiest notion as to which Debbie we saw. I had no
    idea that a sequal could be made from such movies .........

                            BUT, THEN AGAIN ......

            Were they something like -- Debbie Does D.C. -- Debbie Does Denver?

    You know, I never saw a Virgin with a C-section scare before.

    Message: 3088
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Sandy/deep throat
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:54:37

            I thought you had said that you saw the movie.  You and Jeannie
    write so very much alike that I guess I just became confused.

    Message: 58687
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: guess what?
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 03:53:48

    The new issue of "Pro-Choice" magazine is now at your local newsstand. It's
    the annual swimsuit issue -- lots of before and after shots. Oh, and check
    out the feature -- "Roe or Wade, Bikinis Make the Grade."

    Message: 58688
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Jeannie/bounce
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:07:50

    You can solve that easy - go get two cantalope! Large sized ones of course!
                              -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58689
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/#58680
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:16:52

    Re: women making degrading remarks about males .... sorry. There just isn't
    the equivalant words in the english language for them to do so like the men
    have. I.E. 'Broads!' 'Chippie'! 'Nag'! 'Floozy'! Where as we only have words
    like 'Hunk!' 'Macho'! 'Manly'! & 'Stud'! Also, the men have a much broader
    spectrum to choose from which I can not discribe on this board.
                             -=*) ANN (*=-
    P.S. Of course, at times women make up their own words discribing males!

    Message: 58690
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Tarantooo
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:24:49

    I did make it clear on why I object to beauty contests. Very clear!
    I do not object to commercials featuring beautiful women if it applies to
    the product being sold! A perfect woman of face and form in a bikini is
    great in a sun tan product ad - but not in a toilet bowl cleaner one. A
    beautiful woman advertizing an exotic perfume with a sexy outfit on and lust
    on her face is alright, but not the same woman in a car ad where she's
    draping herself over the hood like she going to make love to it.
    Re: Sports Illustrated (again) - that's like Good Housekeeping having a once
    a year male swim suit issue! Doesn't make a bit of sense or apply.
    How much clearer can I get? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58691
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Nick/last
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:29:36

    Wouldn't surprise me in the least! I've seen women in bikinis on the cover
    of computer magazines, so why not the Pro-choice mag?
    Hmmm ... however, I have not EVER seen a man in a bikini on the cover of a
    computer magazine! Nor puring junk down a toilet! Nor on the cover of a
    hunting mag. Have I missed something? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58692
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Oudin
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 07:24:16

    You still make no sense.  You have not explained how beuaty contests
    diminish freedom (your original claim, remember?), nor how the Sports
    Illustrated swimsuit issue or beautiful women in commercials for cars or
    toilet bowls do, especially when beautiful women in ads for perfume,
    pornography, and swimsuit magazines don't.  I would like you to explain the
    subtle distinction between these two categories, and how the things in the
    former category can possibly diminish freedom.

    Message: 58693
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann??
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 08:08:46

    I did not say anything about women making degrading remarks about males.....
    Jeannie said in her post the words 'Poop FEmales'.....   She degraded her
    own kind.  Whith her on your side, you don't need men to make degrading
    remarks about females.   ha ha ha

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 58694
    Author: $ Robert Knee
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann Oudin
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:02:25

    I would like to explain the point Ann Oudin is making with regard to beauty
    contests and other events that exploit sex.  Her point is not that sex is
    evil or should be repressed, quite the contrary.  Rather, she is arguing
    that sex is an important part of life and must be kept in its place, not
    mixed with other things.  She objects to toothpaste commercials that feature
    attractive women because toothpaste has nothing to do with sex.  She objects
    to the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition because sports has nothing to do
    with sex.  She objects to beauty contests because competition has nothing to
    do with sex.  On the other hand, prostitution, pornography, nude dancing
    clubs, perfume ads with sexy women, and magazines whose sole purpose is to
    show beautiful women in sexy bathing suits are OK, because they are pure
    sex, uncomtaminated by other influences.

    The dangers of mixing sex with other things should be apparent to all.  The
    recent rape of a young woman in New York, for example, was the result of
    mixing sex with youthful raucousness.  There are thousands of other
    examples:  AIDS, autoerotic asphyxiation, date rape, and human sacrifice,
    for example.  All these are the results of mixing sex with other things.
    Ann Oudin is one hundred per cent correct when she says that sex must be
    kept in its place and not mixed with anything else.  I salute her for taking
    such a corageous stand.

    Message: 58695
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Sports/last
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:57:05

            But sports has everything to do with sex.  To the victors go the
    spoils.  All (read ALL) people everywhere crave sex.  Mother Nature took
    care of this, really well.  To put it another way, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING
    HAS TO DO WITH SEX.  On the average of 1000 times per day the human animal
    thinks of SEX.  That is putting it mildly.

    Message: 58696
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 14:27:30

    Re:  "I protest spelling contests, as a bad speller can't win so it is
    unfair!"

    Come on Cliff.  A bad speller can learn how to spell.  An ugly person can't
    learn how to be beautiful.  I suppose an ugly person can have plastic
    surgery if they can afford it.  But that's not the principle Ann or I was
    speaking of.  I thought you would be able to see that.

    Message: 58697
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Steve M
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 14:35:38

    Re:  "Yes, ugly people cannot win beauty
    contests, and puny people cannot win weight-lifting contests.
      The two do *not* differ in principle."

    They *do* differ in principle!  I'm surprised you cannot see it.

    A puny person can exercise and build up muscle.
    A ugly cannot do anything to build beauty.

    Any person can develop a skill required to win a contest based on skill.
    One cannot develop beauty.  You are either born with it or born without it.

    Ann said it, "why should anyone get awards, glory laud and honor for their
    beauty because they happened to be born that way".

    Message: 58698
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 14:43:42

    Re:  "On the average of 1000 times per day the human animal
    thinks of SEX.  That is putting it mildly."

    How in the world do you have time to do any locksmithing??

    Message: 58699
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 15:48:17

    He is ambidextrious.  So whichever hand is free....

    Message: 58700
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: R. Knee
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 15:49:34

    Toothpaste has nothing to do with sex?  Obviously you haven't lived.

    Message: 58701
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob T/on spelling
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 16:15:21

            Now Bob, there are some people who can remember every thing they
    see, and are natural spellers...  You can not take a person who can't
    remember and teach him to spell as well as a natural speller.  The bad
    speller may win a contest if pitted against other bad spellers, but that is
    the best he will ever be able to do.  There are a lot of things that seem
    unfair in life but some people will be better suited than others... A 3 foot
    person can't be trained to play better basketball than a 7 foot person who
    plays basketball.  A running contest is more likely to be won by someone
    with a long stride.  There is more to it than just training...  Your body
    has got to be able to do it.  Training becomes more important when two
    physical compatible people are competing.  I really doubt Miss America can
    jerk 800 lbs no matter how long she trains.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 58702
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mother's day
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:12:09

                             IOU  by Jimmy Dean
         You know, most people look through their wallets or their pocket
    books, and way down at the bottom, past the credit cards and baby pictures
    and green stamps you ususlly find a little old dog-eared piece of poetry.
    I was cleaning out my wallet the other day, and I ran across a whole bunch
    of IOU's, some of them thirty years over due.  Funny thing is, that all
    these IOU's are owed to one person.  And, I kinda feel like right now
    might be a pretty good time for an accounting.
         Mom, you listening?  Mom, I owe you for so many things.  A lot of
    services.  Like night watchman, for instance.  For lying awake nights,
    listening for coughs, crys, creaking floorboards, and me coming in too
    late.  You had the eye of an eagle, the roar of a lion, but you always had
    a heart as big as a house.  I owe you for services as a short order cook,
    chef, baker.  For making sirloin out of hamburger, turkey out of tuna
    fish, and two big ol' strappin' boys out of left-overs.  I owe you for
    cleaning services, for the daily scrubbing of face and ears, all work done
    by hand, and for the frequent dusting of a small boy's pants, to try to
    make sure that he led a spotless life.
         And for washing and ironing no laundry could ever do.  For drying the
    tears of childhood, and for ironing out the problems of growing up.  I owe
    you for service as a body guard.  For protecting me from the terrors of
    thunderstorms and nightmares, and too many green apples.  And, Lord knows,
    I owe you for medical attention.  For nursing me through measles, mumps,
    bruises, bumps, splinters, and spring fever.
         And let's not forget medical advice, either.  Oh, no!  Important
    things like, "Don't scratch it, or it won't get well!"    "If you cross
    you eyes, they're going to stick like that!"  And probably most important
    of all was "Be sure you got on clean underwear, boy, in case you're in an
    accident."  And, I owe you for veterinarian services.  For feeding every
    lost dog that I dragged home at the end of a rope.  And for healing the
    pains of puppy love.
         And I owe you for entertainment.  Entertainment that kept the
    household going, during some pretty tough times.  For wonderful
    productions at Christmas, Fourth of July, and birthdays.  And for making
    make-believe come true, on a very limited budget.  I owe you for
    construction work.  For building kites, confidence, hopes and dreams, and
    somehow, you made them all touch the sky.  And for cementing a family
    together, so that it would stand the worst kinds of shocks and blows, and
    for laying down a good, strong foundation to build a life on.
         I owe you for carrying charges.  For carrying me on your books for
    the necessities of life, that a growing boy's just got to have.  Things
    like, oh, a pair of high topped boots with a little pocket on the side for
    a jack knife.  And one thing, Mom, I will never, ever forget.  When there
    were only two pieces of apple pie left, and three hungry people, I noticed
    that you were the one who suddenly decided that you really didn't like
    apple pie in the first place.
         These are just a very few of the things for which payment is long
    overdue.  The person I owe them to worked very cheap.  She managed by
    simply doing without a whole lot of things that she needed herself.  My
    IOU's add up to much more than I can ever hope to repay.  But, you know,
    the nicest thing about it all is that I know that she'll mark the entire
    bill paid in full, for just one kiss, and four little words:  Mom, I love
    you.

     Dedicated to my mother, Ida Josephine Beeks Jones
                                      August 24, 1915 - December 23, 1979

                                                        *** Gary Jones  ***

    Message: 58705
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gary/mother
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:58:40

    Thanks for sharing.

    Message: 58706
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Thornburg/UGLY
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 20:02:11

            There are some truly ugly, of appearance, people who are very
    beautiful.  I think it is called character.  Look at Roy Orbinson, although
    you can't any longer but we can still hear him.  -Rod

    P.S.  re: sexual thoughts 1000 times a day.   Well dreams count too, you
    know.  Have you ever dreamed and remembered about having a sexual encounter?
    I think that most normal people have.

    Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 358
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Shit-Chat
    Subject: ROD
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 05:52:51

    Roddy
    I
    am always
    good, and
    that
    is why
    I
    am called
    GOD, GOD
                         =)) OLD FART RALPH ((=

    Message: 359
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: God Ralphy
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:42:19

    ..... and then I will take you to dark places and then I will ...........

                   *** CONTINUED IN THE OLD FARTS SIG. ***

    Message: 360
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GOD RALPH
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:58:29

            I worshit you.  Praise Ralph!

    First name:JAMES
    Last name:TARANTO
    Send mail to James Taranto:Yes

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     1:        As far as 'force of will' goes, I am about to tell you something
     2:that I have never told anyone, even Jasmine.  I have this ability where I
     3:can move things with the force of my mind.  I started out as a kid by
     4:practicing with light things, like a single sheet of toilet paper.  Of
     5:course in the early days, a fan helped a lot.  But as the big clock ticked,
     6:I perfected moving paper objects.  At one point I could move a whole roll of
     7:toliet paper with little effort.  I graduated when I finally moved our house
     8:back on its foundation, last July.  Several times, recently, I had to move my
     9:van into tight parking spaces.  It is becoming easier to do all the time.
    10:        The only problem with this is that all the objects I have thus far
    11:'moved' have been solely in my mind.  In fact, once I picture an object, it
    12:is by far harder to keep them motionless, than to watch them move all over
    13:the place.  Perhaps my next goal will be to keep objects in my minds eye
    14:from moving.  That will take lots of practice.
    15:
    16:By the way, what did you think of my story, besides it being amatuerish,
    17:boring, juvenile, un-connected, dis-associated, and poorly written?  Just
    18:curious.    -Rod
    19:
    20:        I thought that Dean's story was the best.  It made the most
    21:prophetic point.  Gary's story was well written but it angered me the way he
    22:used Ann's character.  Besides his whole point has been a long standing joke
    23:that I've heard several times before, although he has talent in the way he
    24:carried it.  Jeannie and Sandy's stories (same person) were, how would you s

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