### Apollo BBS Archive - March 15, 1989

    Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 03:24:17

    I almost hate to ask, but what is James up to in  Costa Rica?
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:        He decided to take a vacation with his Mom, using some of his waning
     2:gambling money.  There is a casino in his hotel.  The plane went from here
     3:to L.A. to Mexico City (smog) to Managua, Nicragua then to Costa Rica.  I
     4:haven't heard from him and perhaps he is jungle fighting by now.  Maybe he
     5:is a young Communist.  Who knows.
     6:                                Rod

    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 5307
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Question?
    Subject: last
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 03:32:31

    Well, just what do you still do?

    Message: 5308
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Sandy!!!!
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 05:49:36

    Better keep an eye on Cliff! Judging by all the things he's NOT doing any
    more, he might be turning into a veegetable!
    Hurry back Cliff!(keep smiling!)

    Message: 5309
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff Winters
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 07:38:47

    Are you actually going to leave me at the mercy of Radio Shack if my
    computer ever needs fixing?

    I actually agree with Paul - hurry back! -=*) ANN (*=-

    P.S. My agreeing with Paul means this BBS is going to hell in a hand basket!
    Ha - only kidding Pauly!

    Message: 5310
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff Winters
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 13:50:09

            When he posts a notice that he is giving up 'sulking' ......
    he may be on the road to recovery ......   (joke, joke)

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 57552
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 20:17:01

      Let me say that I agree with Rod and that I am impressed as hell at how
    well he is expressing himself.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 57553
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Flattery
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 22:08:08

    Here is an interesting letter from the latest issue of Insight on the news:

    Poor Choice of Words Flatters Terrorists

        "Islamic Group Takes Credit for Slaying" [Intelligence Briefing, Nov.28]
    contained this line:"A group calling itself the Islamic Jihad in Hajaz has
    claimed responsibility for assassinating an official at the Saudi Embassy
    in Turkey Oct. 25."
        Using phrases like "claims responsibility" and "takes credit" plays into
    the hands of terrorists who wish their actions to be perceived as heroic. I
    urge you to alter your style and start using the phrases "acknowledges
    guilt" and "confesses culpabilty" instead.
        These changes offer the dual advantages of being more accurate and less
    flattering. Most terrorist acts are committed with the goal of strong media
    coverage. Don't play into their hands by providing glamour as well; don't
    let murderers write stories for you.
                                                                   Lisa Small
                                                          Franklin Park, Ill.
      See You Later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 57554
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Steve/57541
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 22:28:28

    Park N Swap, boyeeee...

    Message: 57555
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 57543
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 22:30:02

    Todd, yo, rat own bro. Intelligence and fanatical governmental terrorism do
    not mix.

    Message: 57556
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 57546/Rod
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 22:32:18

    Ok, I accept your correction in good faith, and apologize for
    misrepresenting you. However, I don't feel I was as far off base in my
    assumption as you feel I was. You a Libertarian? Where do you work? The
    information desk, or in non-fiction?

    Message: 57557
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/57548
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 22:36:15

    Rod, there is a vast difference between raw unprocessed coca leaves and
    highly concentrated and refined cocaine and crack. You say that it is an
    individuals right to kcuf their lives up with drugs. THEN WHY IS IT ILLEGAL
    IN THIS COUNTRY? HOW CAN IT BE A RIGHT WHEN MERE POSSESSION OF THESE
    *ILLEGAL* DRUGS CAN GET YOU PUT IN THE SLAM? Your Bill of Rights and mine
    are apparently quite different. Or perhaps your mind is too clouded to read
    it properly.

    Message: 57558
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod Part II
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 22:43:07

      Protect the kids from drugs by making it legal and offering them purer
    dope. If that isn't a perfect example of NON-LOGIC, I don't know what is.
    From someone who seems to place a high priority on logical solutions to
    problems, I think you need to put that pipe down for as long as it takes to
    allow you to think (relatively) clearly once more. It's the easiest cop out
    in the world to blame the big bad society for everything. When it comes down
    to the nitty gritty, the person is responsible for his own life. If he
    doesn't try to make something out of it, it is his own fault. Drugs are a
    cop-out for the weak-minded, weak-willed, that place a sense of non-value
    UPON THEMSELVES. It's an old saying, but I think it bears repeating. DRUGS
    ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T HANDLE REALITY. If you have to destroy your mind
    with drugs, or booze up until you are vomiting to have "fun," then please
    steer clear of me, thankyouverymuch.

    Message: 57559
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod III
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 22:52:20

    If a kid doesn't want to take the time to learn, THAT IS HIS OWN FAULT. If
    his teacher is unwilling to give him the one-on-one he may need to get him
    past the hard spots, he should seek out someone who will, not just blow it
    off. Again, that is the result of the weak will of the individual, not
    society. Too many kids nowadays have a "What the kcuf do I need to learn
    this for? I'll never use it" attitude. THEY ARE ALLOWING *THEMSELVES* TO
    REMAIN IGNORANT. I agree that a student should not be allowed to progress in
    grade level until his requirements are met, however IT IS UP TO THE KID TO
    LEARN. If he doesn't want to learn, there is not a teacher in the world that
    can force him to. And, like I said, though it is easy to blame it on the big
    bad ol "society," how YOU direct YOUR life is YOUR responsibility. Just
    because you kcuf up in life, don't go blaming it on me, or on my neighbor,
    on on the guy down the street, or down the block, or in the next town,
    state, etc. etc. YOUR LIFE IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. LEAD IT WISELY. AND FOR
    YOUR OWN SAKE, DON'T KCUF WITH DRUGS, DAMMIT! Despite how earnestly those
    like Rod want to "improve" your lives by legalising drugs, to make it
    easier, cheaper, and purer for you, IT'S THE WRONG ROAD, FRIEND. And though
    Rod may feel that drug abuse is a victimless crime, HE IS WRONG AGAIN. By
    doing drugs, you set yourself up to be the victim of your own demise. Drugs
    do not improve your thinking. Drugs will not improve your productivity in
    the long run. Drugs will not allow you to find inner peace. Drugs will alter
    your thinking, kill brain cells, destroy self-value, incentive, and future
    goals. Drugs will mess you the kcuf up.

    Message: 57560
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Wine
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 22:58:49

    Talking to you is nigh impossible. It's like talking to a very loud and
    pompous brick wall. Wine was not created for the intent and purpose of
    getting snockered. If it were, I would most certainly doubt that it's use in
    moderation would have been practiced by Christ. You can drink a little wine
    and not feel buzzed in the least. In fact, much of the wine used in Biblical
    times was heavily watered down (most likely for that reason). And as I am
    sure you would know if you were knowledgeable of the Bible, that many did
    not follow the words of God, and many suffered directly as a result. Of
    course, some people are wrapped up in their own false sense of self worth
    that they don't want to be bothered by having to answer to a higher
    authority. These same people are going to have a terribly rude awakening one
    of these days. I will continue to pray for you, though. Perhaps it may do
    some good eventually.

    Message: 57561
    Author: Mildred Stumpstedd
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Hi
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 01:26:41

            I new here and I have been reading some of the posts.  They are
    pretty interesting too.
    I know a fellow who is serving eight years in Florence Prison because he had
    some marijuana.  He is with some people who are in for murder and are only
    serving seven years.  My question is this:  Why are the Senators and
    Congressmen of this Country not in prison where they belong.  They are the
    biggest crooks of all and are the ones who make the laws.  Yet they are also
    the ones who break the laws big time.  Is this fair.
     And whoever it was that called our Jesus a wino is not telling the truth.
    Wine wasn't made in order to get high.  It was made solely for the purpose
    of helping food digest.  Jesus will get you for that and make you pay in
    the end, that's for sure.  You'll wish you had never, never even thought
    such a thought in your life.  How does eternal hell sound to you?  You'd
    better think about it.  Our bible school teacher says that at least 75% of
    the people in this world will go there.  There is only room for the good
    people.  This is a Christian Nation and I will fight to the death to defend
    it.  My teacher told me that all Communists will go to hell.  All Jews and
    Moselms, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, and many Christian sects will go
    too.  God is the most perfect being.  He just created some real bums, that's
    all.
     Go to church every Sunday and confess Jesus in your hearts.  Jesus loves
    you more than you will ever know.  He died for you.  He is sitting on the
    right hand of the Father, smiling at his beloved.  He lives!!  Viva God and
    all his chosen.  The Saints smile on you and wait for you.  Love Mildred

    Message: 57562
    Author: Peter Leventhal
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: wine/Bible
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 03:09:10

    I think the point was not whether or not Jesus could hold his liquor, but
    whether or not he consumed drugs.  Whether he intended to get smashed, or
    just to partake of the common practices of the day, he consumed alcohol,
    and alcohol is a drug, yes?

    Message: 57563
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Mildred/75%
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 03:31:26

    How did your bible teacher conclude that 75% of all people are going to burn
    in hell? You said that there's not enough room in heaven. Why is hell so
    much larger than heaven?

    Message: 57564
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Steve/caps
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 05:28:56

    When all the stores fail you, try the swap meets. Probably 5-10% of swap
    meet vendors sell baseball caps, and I would be surprised if you couldn't
    find one there. Good luck!

    Message: 57565
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 05:36:14

    You and a few others stubbornly fail to recognize the fact that, when it
    comes to substance abuse, there are many victims. Victim #1 is, of course,
    the abuser, whose mind, body and eventually life are destroyed by continued
    abuse. Victims of each abuser are also his or her family, who suffer agony
    beyond description as they watch helplessly as their loved one flushes his
    life down the toilet, not to mention the real loss of the money and other
    items the abuser steals from the family to feed his addiction.
     Next comes society as a whole, victimized not only be the loss of those
    things stolen to buy dope, but by the ultimate cost to the public for
    rehabilbilitation and treatment, and all too often, burial of the indigent
    addict, indigent only because of, and directly attributable to, the drugs
    they have consumed. Victimless? Indeed!

    Message: 57566
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 05:44:23

    Are you semi-dyslexic or something?
    Reversing vulgarity doesn't make it say anything else, nor does it make it
    less offensive. THere are many other words that carry the same meaning. Why
    not try a few?
    Just an aside, FYI.

    Message: 57567
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/#57557
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 07:30:52

    These things are illegal because the moralists want others to do what they
    think is right. For as long as I can remember, theres always someone who
    tries to tell me what is good and bad for me - right and wrong. I need no
    one to do that for me. Rod is right - we need to let the individual judge
    for himself what he wants to do (IF he is not hurting anyone else!) - even
    if that means shoothing up with bleach is that's what he chooses to do.

    Re: Biblical wine - they were no different than we are today. In fact, the
    wine was probably a lot more potent than it is today. Wine will make
    me drunk quick - just a glass - than whiskey of any sort! So will beer and
    both of these are much lower proof than whiskey, gin, vodka etc. Just
    because wine is a countries tradition doesn't mean it is/wasn't abused.
                                -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 57568
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/drugs
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 07:35:44

    Who said anything about legalizing drugs and giving it to kids because it's
    purer? The rules of legalized drugs would be the same as it is for alcohol
    now. How come you don't see 'booze peddlers' out on the street selling the
    stuff to kids or any one else? Because it's legal and has no profit in it!
    'Rum Running' is a thing of the past. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 57569
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl/57557
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 08:17:41

            I think the whole point of this is discussion is that yes, drugs are
    illegal, but that they should not be.  Why are drugs illegal?  From the
    misguided perception that simply making something illegal will get rid of
    it.
            Another point has to be made about what a victimless crime is.  That
    is an action that is illegal, but does not harm anyone beyond the person
    committing the "crime."  If an adult wants to do something to himself, even
    something stupid like smoking tobacco or crack, they should have the right
    to do so.
            Under a legalized drug system, sellers of contaminated drugs could
    be prosecuted under product liability laws.
            Note that above I mentioned "adults."  Children, under the law, are
    not fully responsible for their own actions, so like with alcohol and
    cigarettes, they should not be able to obtain drugs until they reach
    the age of majority.

          /
      /  *  /  Alan
     *     *

    Message: 57570
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: LEGALIZATION?
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 11:44:42

         Obviously, we aren't going to legalize all drugs tomorrow - but where
    would be a good place to start?  Personally, I'd say with the
    decriminalization of marijuana.  To begin with, let's clear up a
    misconception here.  You can't even start to compare this drug to the harder
    stuff, such as crack.  It's kind of like comparing "near beer" with grain
    alcohol, if you know what I mean.
         Drug use is a victimless crime, in that there is no victim to
    potentially file a police report after the fact (as there would be in the
    case of child porn.)  This is even more so in the case of marijuana, where
    to effects are much less intense than with the harder stuff.
         In drug-abuse deaths due to accident, suicide or unknown caewe
    (in a report by the Drug Abuse Warning Network), the #1 killer was "alcohol
    in combination".  Next, came heroin, cocaine and codeine.  Tylenol was #10,
    aspirin #11.  Marijuana?  42.
         Marijuana has been shown to aid in the treatment of depression, help in
    controlling seizures in people afflicted with MS & cerebral palsy, and
    stimulate appetite/reduce nausea in cancer therapy. (As a side note, a
    program in Britian which allows the use of heroin to relieve pain in
    terminal patients has been called successful.)  Being on Schedule I,
    marijuana cannot even be used in medical research these days.
         When drugs such as marijuana are illegal, what happens?  First, the
    price skyrockets.  With the harder, more expensive drugs, this translates
    into one thing -  more capital is needed to continue buying.  Often times,
    when users exceed their means, the additional cost comes out of your pocket

    Message: 57571
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Nick/75%  hell
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 11:54:17

            Just for doubting Mildred, you will be going there.  For shame.

    Message: 57572
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl 1 of 5
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 11:55:10

    Daryl, you graciously point out that a difference exists between the coca
    leaf and processed cocaine and crack.  Granted, there is also a
    difference between milk that lays in a cows belly and that which sits in
    your refrigerator.  I think your mind may be a bit cloudy from drinking
    same.  After all, cholesterol is a number one killer and everyone knows
    by now that milk from another beast is not the best for the human body.
    The majority of it sits in the intestines and, err, well, rots.  But it
    is your right to purchase it and use it as you see fit.  Even though I
    don't think you should use it, that it is bad for your system and you
    will undoubtedly suffer for it in later years, it is your right to drink
    all you want.  You cannot legally legislate what another does to their
    body.  It is bigoted to say the least.
         You ask why some drugs are illegal and cause the user, if caught, to
    be put in prison.  Good question.  There are many reasons, Daryl.  One of
    them is in the form of a question.  Why should a wealthy and powerful
    person lose an income of billions of dollars each year by legalizing
    drugs?  The big importers have power and influence in this nations
    capital and can easily pay for lobbyists.  Another reason is that the
    best drugs grow better in South American Countries.  Pot needs a warm,
    humid, mountainous country and the same for coca.  The pot that grows in
    Nebraska just doesn't come out as well.  Although pot grows well in
    Northern California and Oregon and it is their number one cash crop.
    Well, it is done so by some old hippies that are not members of any big
    cartels.

    Message: 57573
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl 2 of 5
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 11:55:58

         Any big capitalist worth his salt would grow and distribute drugs if
    given half a chance.  This should be obvious to you as you can take a
    look at the liquor industry.  Alcohol is the number one killer in the
    drug world and there are more bottles than Bibles.  Users are caught and
    put in prison because we live in a bigoted, fairly evil world.
         As Ann pointed out, plants have been used since mans first step.
    Coffee, Tea, and a host of others are being ingested everyday.  Look at
    the number one prescription drug, Valium. It comes from plants that grow
    in a field.
         This nations law enforcement boys, many themselves using drugs, will
    NEVER put an end to drug usage.  The fabric of this nation is being
    ripped to shreds over the bigotry of this issue.  A nation that has one
    single individual in a prison, an institution whose sole purpose is
    punishment, is sick.  Our prisons are bursting at the seems.  People will
    continue using drugs.  At least we could make sure they are pure.
         You said yourself, in your last message, that when it comes to the
    nitty gritty a person is responsible for their own life.  Yet you are
    trying to legislate the lives of those you say have that responsibility.
    This is bigoted and don't try to deny it.  More on this later.
         If drugs are a cop-out for the weak-minded, weak-willed then I guess
    everyone is weak.  So, you think it is your right, as a Christian-Bigot
    to determine what is best for others.  You, as your lord tells you, knows
    what is right for everyone else.  Okay, Ev.

    Message: 57574
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl 3 of 5
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 11:56:40

         You say that drugs are for people who can't handle reality.  Is this
    why hundreds of thousands of American Servicemen in Viet Namn smoked pot
    and snorted heroin.  I guess this reality you mention is a fun thing, eh?
         But, coming back on the boat or by plane, these same servicemen quit
    their drugs and caused the new West Coast Drug Treatment Facilities to be
    unused.  Less than one percent of the returning servicemen used them.
    They were probably the ones who watched their buddies head being shot
    off.  This is the kind of reality that is offered to young men.  Die for
    pig-capitalism.  And don't tell me that we weren't on that foreign soil
    in order to rip-off their wealth.  And don't tell me that you, if you had
    been there, would not have knelt in your foxhole, holding a bible in one
    hand while pushing heroin up your nose with the other.  And then when
    your reality suddenly changed, you probably would have lost your need and
    desire to be zombied out.
         Well, my good friend Daryl, look around you and see the reality of
    the millions of people who rush to their doctor each month to get their
    prescription for drugs.  This is a rough world and a big part of why this
    is, is because of people like you who think it is their right to
    legislate the morality of others.  We live in a world of Christian-Bigot-
    Landlords who up the rent after having a personal conversation with
    Jesus.  But, but, it says so in the Bible, right?

    Message: 57575
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl 4 of 5
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 11:57:24

         Believe me Daryl, I do steer clear of people like you.  No problem.
    Oh, I see them, talk with them but they are not counted as my close
    friends or people I associate with on a regular basis.  But change is
    possible and it happens.  You have intelligence.
         In your message, Part 3, you say that if a kid doesn't want to take
    the time to learn, THAT IS THEIR OWN FAULT.  Congratulations, spoken like
    a true Christian.  Daryl, you missed my point entirely.  Wake up.  There
    are many people in this nation who lack in basic intelligence.  They are
    the underachievers, they are born this way.  They are naturally ignorant
    but they are not bad people.  They have their own genius in animal
    intelligence, survival, cunning and all that.  But in the business world
    they are not bright.  They could have ten teachers for 100 years and they
    would still be dense.  It is how their physical brain works.  It is in
    the genes, it can't be helped.  It is not their fault.  You as a so-
    called Christian are condemning them.  I don't understand but then again
    I understand.  Know what I mean?  You said it yourself, "weak will".  It
    is a fact of life.  These people, by the laws of our society, are being
    trodden upon, being used.  Someone has to live in sub-standard housing
    and purchase the junk products.  American depends upon them.  But they
    are people nonetheless, they have hearts and feelings and deserve better
    than what is offered.  Rajneesh should never have been closed down.  I
    guess that I should be thankful that you do not run a mental institution.
    But I bet that your brother ran one up in Oregon a few years ago until he
    was caught.

    Message: 57576
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: 5 of 5
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 11:58:08

         About the best thing I could recommend for you is that you go smoke
    a joint, friend.
         In your last message to me, headed "WINE", you say that it was not
    created for the intent and purpose of getting snockered.  Well, then why
    didn't they just drink grape juice?  It tastes much better.  One swallow
    of ANY alcoholic beverage effects my mind.  One half can of beer will
    make me drunk.  For what purpose did early man ferment plant material?
    Was it digestion or to ease a harsh reality?  According to your bible
    story, Christ made the good wine first and after the guests drank this
    and got buzzed the watered down stuff tasted okay.
         Yes, I am one of those people who is wrapped up in my own false
    sense of worth, as you mention.  My children must profit from it, too.
    At least I hope they do.
         When you are praying to your God about me....ask him this for me,
    Send Drugs!                        -Rod
    Message: 57577
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: LEGALIZATION?
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 12:12:25

         Obviously, we aren't going to legalize all drugs tomorrow - but where
    would be a good place to start?  Personally, I'd say with the
    decriminalization of marijuana.  To begin with, let's clear up a
    misconception here.  You can't even start to compare this drug to the harder
    stuff, such as crack.  It's kind of like comparing "near beer" with grain
    alcohol, if you know what I mean.
         Drug use is a victimless crime, in that there is no victim to
    potentially file a police report after the fact (as there would be in the
    case of child porn.)  This is even true in the case of marijuana, where
    the effects are much less intense than with the harder stuff.
         In drug-abuse deaths due to accident, suicide or unknown cause
    (in a report by the Drug Abuse Warning Network), the #1 killer was "alcohol
    in combination".  Next, came heroin, cocaine and codeine.  Tylenol was #10,
    aspirin #11.  Marijuana?  42.
         Marijuana has been shown to aid in the treatment of depression, help in
    controlling seizures in people afflicted with MS & cerebral palsy, and
    stimulate appetite/reduce nausea in cancer therapy. (As a side note, a
    program in Britian which allows the use of heroin to relieve pain in
    terminal patients has been called successful.)  Being on Schedule I,
    marijuana cannot even be used in medical research these days.
         When drugs such as marijuana are illegal, what happens?  First, the
    price skyrockets.  With the harder, more expensive drugs, this translates
    into one thing -  more capital is needed to continue buying.  Often times,
    when users exceed their means, the additional cost comes out of your pocket
    and mine - quite literally, and by force at times.  Drug laws force people
    who may be law-abiding otherwise into "criminal" activity.  If you really
    wanted to help a drug user, is sending him to prison for possession of a
    small amount of marijuana really the best way to help?
        On another note, if a drug is illegal, those people wishing to buy must
    then deal with a person who grows/makes and sells this drug knowing
    full well the legal risk involved.  Talk about a nervous character... Drug
    manufacturers have also been known to "invent" new drugs, to get by drug law
    loopholes.  These "designer drugs" can prove to be far more dangerous than
    the drug being replaced.  I don't know about you, but I'd prefer a
    pharmaceutical company, with all the regulations & guidelines it follows,
    making these drugs than Moe the backstreet chemist.
         If drugs were legalized, we wouldn't have that kid dead in the gutter
    any more than we have the occasional case of teenagers going belly up from
    alcohol poisoning.  Prices would drop substantially, resulting in less crime
    committed to support an expensive habit.  I really don't think usage would
    increase substantially (ask yourself - would YOU start using drugs on a
    regular basis if they were legal.  If you answer "no", what make you
    any better than the average joe?)
         In the case of legalizing marijuana, I can't see any good reason to
    keep it illegal. It's just not that dangerous, especially when you put it up
    against crack, or a bottle of Jack Daniels.  As for the legalization of oher
    drugs, such as heroin, all I can say is that there aren't any easy solutions
    here.  However, I know a half-assed "war on drugs", isn't a solution, it
    is ignoring a bigger problem by smoothing things over with tough talk.
    Talk, that is what the war amounts to these days.
         Sometimes drastic problems call for drastic solutions.  Drug
    legalization may be that solution.  Not an easy pill to swallow, I know.
         If you'd care to help in this solution, please get in touch with:

    National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML)
    2001 S St. NW
    Washington, DC  20009

    (or call 202-483-5500)

         This would be a good start - Let's hope it isn't too late.

    (I'll post more later.....)

    Message: 57580
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Last
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 13:47:11

            Peter, is that really you?
            Good posts .......

    Message: 57581
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Westfall's 57557
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 17:06:13

    Whather something is illegal is not what determines whether I have the right
    to do it.

    Message: 57582
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Westfall
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 17:06:41

    Calm DOWN, man!  What the "kcuf" is YOUR PROBLEM?

    Message: 57583
    Author: Mildred Stumpstedd  ***NOTE This is me***
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: Nick Ianuzzi
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 17:41:41

            My Sunday School teacher told me that three fourths of the people
    she meets does not agree with her doctrine.  Therefore, 75% of the people
    will be going to hades.  Hell is bigger because more people are going there.
    Do you understand?

    Message: 57584
    Author: Mildred Stumpstedd   ***This is me***
    Category: Question?
    Subject: James Taranto
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 17:42:50

    What does "Whather" really mean?  You started your post a few messages back
    with this word.  Are you a writer or something?

    Message: 57585
    Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mildred/#57583
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 21:12:11

    Stumpstedd???

    Or could it be that the 25% of the people that do agree with your Sunday
    School teacher are going to hell?  I'd be more inclined to believe the later
    figure cause it sure doesn't sound like your Sunday School teacher is a
    Christian.

    (LL)oyd Pulley

    Message: 57586
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Mildred
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 21:19:18

            The question is ...........

    Do you believe your Sunday School teacher?

    Message: 57587
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mildred
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 22:20:14

            Don't I know you from somewhere?
    Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 209
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/last
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 07:54:33

    I am sure there will be many that do not see the truth in your last post.
    It's 100% true!!!! The Catholic church rewards all martyrs with 'instant
    Heaven'! Isn't that convenient? -=*) ANN (*=-

    First name:NICK
    Last name:IANUZZI
    Send mail to Nick Ianuzzi:Yes

    Enter a line containing only an <*> to stop
     1:        I reckon that ole Mildred will have to log on tonight and answer
     2:your question.  He, he.   This is a Christian Nation and I will fight to the
     3:death to defend it.  Jesus died and sits at the right of old Goddy poo.
     4:                        Love Mildred
     5:P.S.  It was susposed to be Stumpstedder but it wouldn't fit.

    Message: 210
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 14:02:43

            I see Rod has finally gotten to you. What did he offer you in the
    way of a smoke anyway?

    Message: 211
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Answer/last
    Date: 03/15/89  Time: 22:19:13

            It's called money, cold, hard cash, the green stuff, root of all
    evil, bread, green shit.  With money one can buy any drug you want.

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