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From: GOOSE MAN [# 21 ]
Date: Sun Oct 1, 1989 4:23 PM
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On the script file about the holy grai; I dont quite recall seeing that part
about the king with tatty flags and I thought that the minstrels got eaten up
on the way to the grail "and there was much rejoicing" remember? not shot with
arrows... Unless After that LONG LONG LONG period of music with the screen
balck isnt the end? as My friend taped it off the tv and after 5 minutes of
black he shut it off... I am sure I would remember that part with the advisors
If it was in there....
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HI derec what's up?

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From: BRUCE HURST [# 57 ]
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What ever Happened to Empire??????????????
Bruce Hurst

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1)No
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4)Paris
5)Who Do We Appreciate?!?
6)Very Large
7)God No! I'm No Prude!
8)Undefined Music
9)Dont Like British Humor
10)Yes... What Of it?
11)Male
12)Yes! I Live By Them...
13)Infocom?
14)No... I Am New Here HONESTLY!
15)An Animal Slightly Larger Than Whales
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From: MIKE GABUTTI [# 127 ]
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NEW USER:

1)No
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8)Mixed.
9)Dont Like British Humor
10)Yes... What Of it?
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12)With A Dash Of Salt.
13)Infocom?
14)No... I Am New Here HONESTLY!
15)The Blue Whale
16)English Speking Cab Drivers In New York

i have my own bussines ,im into electronics/computers/video/music.
my business is a video/computer repair place so thats probably why i have
hobbies related to my profession well thats all...

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16)The Number Of States In 1812

MY HOBBITES ARE BOWLING,BASEBALL CARDS,AND I'M NEW TO BBS

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11)Male
12)Yes! I Live By Them...
13)No! Piss Off...
14)No... I Am New Here HONESTLY!
15)The Blue Whale
16)English Speking Cab Drivers In New York

Hmmm, calling from Prov. RI
Run the The Flaming Cauldron(946-0191)
Anything else?
Chris!

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Msg # 601 Tue Aug 23, 1989 5:29 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Valid Religion
Resp To:594-Flying Frisbee

Although I don't practice it myself,
I do have more than a passing interest
in the art, and I do know several
people who actively practice it. And
the strange thing is that--contrary to
popular beliefs--they are all males!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 602 Tue Aug 23, 1989 8:26 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Truly truly,truly!
Resp To:595-SexualPrefs

Actual bumper sticker:
TELEVANGELISTS DO MORE THAN LAY
PEOPLE".
There was a report in Newsweek last
year that these white trash scum are
getting on each others' backs because
the "Idiot pool" in the population will
only support a limited number of them.
So if one of the, say Rectal Roberts,
for example, gains a follower, some
other con artist loses one. There must
have been quite a scramble for the
scattered members of that renegade
Amway salesman whatshisname,(You know,
the one whose wife looks like a hippo
in full drag), when they finally
brought him to trial.
As an adherant to Older religions, I
love the effect these cynical
hypocrites are having on *rganized
Religion, Inc., and I delight in the
constant exposures of these charlatans.
It holds by association, the
"legitimate" religions up to scorn,
disdain, and the ridicule they have
laboured so many centuries to deserve.
(That ought to get something stirred
up) ]:>

Msg # 603 Tue Aug 23, 1989 8:41 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:That Ol' time Religion!
Resp To:601-Flying Frisbee

The males you know attracted to Wicca
are probably after the power-centered
rites.Commonly called"wizards", they
frequently work destructive or
acquistive Magic.
There are many active covens on the
South Shore, of various persuasions,
and of various gender distributions. A
tip of the iceberg is the *ahem* litter
found by the police every 1 November at
Dighton Rock State Park.(Residues and
carcasses of animal sacrifices,etc.)
They don't like it.
I am not sure if the old Witchcraft
statutes are still on the books in
massachusetts-it would not surprise me
one bit, but it would make an
interesting class action if a Coven
were to be busted under one of them!
As you can see by my previuos
responses, I am disgusted enough with
mainstream religions-and if some of
THEM are allowed constitutional
protection,well,,,,if 13 people decide
that Number 2 tries harder,they deserve
the same freedom. Without exception,
this religious group has endured more
persecution than any other.Even though
King Saul consulted the Witch of Endor,
it says in the same book,"Thou shall
not suffer a witch to live.".
Wish they'd make up their minds and
get it together!-NO on second thought I
need the amusement!
Blessed Be!

Msg # 604 Wed Aug 24, 1989 11:34 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Recessive Genes
Resp To:597-SexualPrefs

Homosexuality is a recessive trait. Meaning, i may have it, or any number of
heterosexuals. I may not necessarily pass it onto my son, but could my
daughter, or perhaps neither of them, but their children will most likely have
it.
And, number five, there are many, many homosexuals who are married.

Msg # 605 Wed Aug 24, 1989 11:36 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Logic
Resp To:598-Post, Post, Post?

I prefer to say that i speak for Truth and logic.
You, on the other hand, seem to be speaking more from a purely emotional point
of view, which is all fine and good, but will get us little of anywhere.
Each to his own.

Msg # 606 Wed Aug 24, 1989 11:40 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Genetic Engineering
Resp To:599-SexualPrefs

So, just because i'm not murdering anyone you still want to hate the process,
eh? Seems like someone's looking for something to dislike.
I am not changing people's personalities to suit -my- tastes. I am changing
people's genes so as to inhibit a genetic flaw that renders the sexuality of a
person less than useful.
You, and others, may say this idea is radical today, but mark my words in your
mind, twenty or thirty years from now such ideas will be consider as noble as
giving to the poor.
Time is on my side.

Msg # 607 Wed Aug 24, 1989 11:43 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Subjects count too
Resp To:600-SexualPrefs

I would refer you to the subject of message number 582. I consider that a bit
of slander, and usually don't take it kindly.
If you have a problem with that, look up the word "slander."

Msg # 608 Wed Aug 24, 1989 11:47 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Books
Resp To:601-Flying Frisbee

Ah, there's an interesting book you'd like to read then...
Josh's Journal. Compiled by the same lady Dr. that did "Go Ask Alice."
Its a very neat, scary journal.

Msg # 609 Wed Aug 24, 1989 10:46 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Legacies
Resp To:587-SexualPrefs

This recessive trait may not have to be eliminated to get rid of homosexuality.
All one has to do is to make sure that their partner doesn't possess it also.
If they do, then their is a 25% chance that the offspring will be homosexual
and a 75% chance that they will inherit the trait.HH, Hh, and hh.

Elimination is not the only answer.

Not-Man

Msg # 610 Wed Aug 24, 1989 10:51 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:The mall
Resp To:596-Emerald Mall

Yeah, the place has an Electronics Boutique and a Babbage's. I bought some
stuff from them the other night. Pretty cool place.

But, who's to say that their IS steel in that concrete?
Not-Man

Msg # 611 Thu Aug 25, 1989 10:41 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Actually...
Resp To:603-Flying Frisbee

A group in Rhode Island was recently
awarded tax-exempt status just like any
other religion...

I'm not sure as that quite describes
the "wizards" I know. One of them did
in the past offer to make love potions
for $50 apiece. He claims they do work.
(He did get married just under a year
ago...) Of course, this same person
practically drips pentagrams and does
wear the Necronomicon symbol on a chain
around his neck, so perhaps Wicca isn't
QUITE his field??

<Frumpy>

P.S.: Beltane and Hallowe'en are such
FESTIVE occasions, wouldn't you
agree?

Msg # 612 Thu Aug 25, 1989 10:43 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Married...to Homosexuals
Resp To:604-SexualPrefs

Yeah, no kidding. I still fail to
see why you persist in categorizing it
with diseases, though.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 613 Thu Aug 25, 1989 10:52 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Radical, dude!
Resp To:606-SexualPrefs

I do agree that your theory has some
good points, i.e. the eradication of
debilitating illnesses such as
Parkinson's disease, diabetes, and
possibly cancer, all of which can be
genetically passed on.

However, I believe that someday
researchers will find that
homosexuality is not numbered among
genetically passed on things, and so
that portion of your plan for bettering
things will undoubtedly fail.

You might not alter people's
personalities, but tampering with one's
sex drive (by your admission perhaps
humanity's strongest drive) is still
not such a good idea.

<Frumpy>

P.S.: Since you hope to remove these
"bad" genes, would it not also be
possible to implant these "bad" genes
into some unsuspecting straight?

Msg # 614 Thu Aug 25, 1989 10:57 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Wrong subject
Resp To:607-SexualPrefs

FYI, message #582 contains no
slanderous statements. However, I think
you refer to the one in which I
compared you to a certain nutty Nazi,
yes?

Now that the moment has passed, I do
contemplate the highly unlikely
possibility of a Jew endorsing Hitler's
ways with a great deal of amusement...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 615 Thu Aug 25, 1989 11:03 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Josh's Journal
Resp To:608-Flying Frisbee

And what, praytell, makes this
journal so very neat and scary?

I mean, don't you think that surely
other Powers besides the monotheistic
deity God and Its opposite, Satan,
exist? Look at all the gods the ancient
civilizations worshipped. Our religion
is so popular now only because we wiped
the other "paganistic" religions away
for the most part.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 616 Thu Aug 25, 1989 11:06 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Reinforcements
Resp To:610-Emerald Mall

OK, what say we go down to the mall,
cut open one of the main supports, and
see for ourselves??

It is a very nice mall, though.
Those computer store are of little use
to me, seeing as I have an Atari, (STOP
THAT SNICKERING!!!) but there are other
stores of equal or greater interest to
me.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 617 Thu Aug 25, 1989 2:23 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Eradication
Resp To:609-SexualPrefs

Of course the eradication of homosexuality will not employ the "correction"
eveyone's genes, but only those possesing the trait.

Msg # 618 Thu Aug 25, 1989 2:27 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Wicka, Paganites
Resp To:611-Flying Frisbee

Everything said thus far about the various pagan religions is true. They have
existed for eons, and they do produce results. However, if results are what
one is looking for, surely the mind is a capable an organ enough to produce
the said results without the aid of symbols and material items.
It was once believed that speciel prayers and whatnot were necessary to move
an object with pure will. However, the CCCP and other organizations have
proven this not to be the case.
Why stoop as low as our hairy, often toothless, disease ridden ancestory and
revert back to paganism? Why can't men stand up and preform as nature deems
it, without outside help?
The power of man is power enough.

Msg # 619 Thu Aug 25, 1989 2:29 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Disease
Resp To:612-SexualPrefs

Why do i insist on catagorizing homosexuality as a disease?
Tell me, number five, would you catagorize parkinson's as a disease?
They used to blame it on sin. I'm just calling it what it is.
Disease.

Msg # 620 Thu Aug 25, 1989 2:31 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:The Living and the Unborn
Resp To:613-SexualPrefs

When i speak of eradicating homosexuality, this need not concern the living.
It will not affect the living. Number five, you have no hope of being cured
with known, or near future technology. However, your ancestors, my ancestors,
all our ancestors, will be affected.
Thus, a straight person has no hope of becomming homosexual, or vice versa.
That is in the realm of only the unborn. It is to them that our technology
will bear fruit.

Msg # 621 Thu Aug 25, 1989 2:33 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Message 582. Ditae
Resp To:614-SexualPrefs

Please refer to the subject of number 582.

Msg # 622 Thu Aug 25, 1989 2:35 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Gods and God
Resp To:615-Flying Frisbee

Just because one worships something does not give it validity.
Those sundry gods passed away mainly because they failed to bring results.
The popularity of the Creator, in the mainstream society as well as the 2%, is
bXsed largely upon results and the hearing of such.

Msg # 623 Thu Aug 25, 1989 2:39 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:All
Subject:Slaine Hospital

In an effort to verify the rumour that Slaine is indeed hospitalized i would
appreciate it if anyone could supply me with his real name. I could find out,
but this would take a little doing, slander, and time. Something i'd rather
not do.
So, if feel like finding out if Slaine is dead, alive, or just plain gone, i'd
appreciate any info.

Msg # 624 Thu Aug 25, 1989 7:47 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Wizards and wizards.
Resp To:611-Flying Frisbee

Wiccans frequently call people who
overadorn themselves with trappings
"Party Witches".They are into it for
the notoriety,shock value, and certain
sexual rites in some covens.
I agree wholheartedly that Beltane and
Samhain are very festive seasons , and
pretty much to all cultures at some
level. Beltane fires are not remarkably
uncommon in Britain today.
We made it a point to be at Stonehenge
several years ago befor things got a
little Woodstocky, for the 21 June
sunrise.We also walked the maze at
ynnis wittryn, Glastonbury Tor,on a
subsequent visit. There is still
something there one can feel, fading
perhaps, but there.
Samhain/Hallowe'en has always been a
very special day in my family.Much more
relevant than easter or Passover,
because it goes back to our Ice age
roots and ignores ethnocentricity.
(We hit the Beltane rites in Wales this
year!-dumb luck,right place at the
right time sort of thing-OR WAS IT??)

Msg # 625 Thu Aug 25, 1989 7:57 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:CATCGGATGCAT seq.
Resp To:612-SexualPrefs

*groan* You people talking about
"inherited" homosexuality are just
going back to the "Nature od Nurture-
argument which has pitted the
geneticists against the
behaviouralists. It's a loop, and no
one will "win" until someone SHOWS us
the definitive sequence for the "Homo"
codon, if it is in fact in a codon
sequence at all. I personally doubt a
truly causal sequence will be found.
There is too much evidence, admittedly
anecdotal, to suggest the mechanism of
imprinting can in fact change a
person's orientation. A Gay female
friend of mine drifted between the two
worlds every two years and was equally
comfortable in both. There was at least
in her case an element of free will.She
just doubled her fun.I rather enjoyed
shopping with her, checking out the
women!

Msg # 626 Thu Aug 25, 1989 8:01 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Let's ettle the Mall thing...
Resp To:616-Emerald Mall

I have a Diamond saw that GLIDES
through concrete. Where is this Mall,
and WHEN DOES IT CLOSE!!! Ha Ha..

Msg # 627 Thu Aug 25, 1989 8:10 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:But the Nature of man..
Resp To:618-Flying Frisbee

..is to always reach for what cannot
be. We are animals who have attained
the wisdom to pretend we are not.
As a child,we fear death,and can go to
our parents for comforting lies.
When we become adult, we must generate
our own lies/mythology/father figure.
I do not think we need at all be
ashamed of our past.Considering the
formidable animals we faced in our
evolution, we have done very well.
I am not saying we should bring back
Baal, Zeus,&Co., but I think if we lost
touch with our mythological heritage,
we would be losing something precious
to our humanity-our archetypal heritage
common to all cultures and all peoples,
and the guidance, whether divine or
synthesized, which gave us our Teachers
and our laws,our diverse cultures, and
our civilizations.
To turn our backs on the past would be
like forgetting how to add once you
have passed Calculus.

Msg # 628 Thu Aug 25, 1989 8:20 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Junkyard of the Gods
Resp To:622-Flying Frisbee

Ah, but the results of these
synthesized manifestations of
wish-fulfillment,are so easy to call
"miracles". If one does a rain dance
long enough, and it rains,well that's
good enough to keep the shaman in
business. Once into the realm of
"Miracles", of course they are articles
of faith,whose "validity" cannot be
questioned in the society.Then come the
invasions and plagues, and that
particular god becomes passe',only to
be replaced by the same thing witha
different name and lineage.
The Mother-Figure archetype, for
example,carried over from the Oldest
religion, became Isis in Alexandria,
and then became a cult in Rome,and was
slowly absorbed (whether anyone likes
to admit it or not) as the current
Mary.
(Here they come, with a STAKE and
green wood!)

Msg # 629 Thu Aug 25, 1989 10:31 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Malls
Resp To:616-Emerald Mall

The mall is nice, and we are supposed to be getting one of equal magnitude here
in Taunton in a few years called "The Silver City Galleria." Should be great,
but what has me worried is that the it is the same company that built the one
in Attleboro.

Not-Man

Msg # 630 Fri Aug 26, 1989 9:17 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:History
Resp To:627-Flying Frisbee

Yes, it is important to remember our past, regardless of its lack of validity.
But, to bring your example further; It is important to distinguish between
calculus and addition.

Msg # 631 Fri Aug 26, 1989 9:19 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Taunton
Resp To:629-Emerald Mall

Is it me or is Taunton with its new industrial free zone becomming another New
Bedford?? Imagine giving the apes a mall to play in as well...
Will it come with its on riot control division?

Msg # 632 Fri Aug 26, 1989 10:34 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Taunton=New Bedford
Resp To:631-Emerald Mall

Yeah, it seems to me that Taunton is baring a striking resemblance to New
Bedford these days, but with the current political machine in place, what can
we expect?

Not-Man

Msg # 633 Fri Aug 26, 1989 1:56 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:religious fanatics
Resp To:356-Married...with Children

Hey Frumpy what did you mean in a early post (just goyt back on-line and have
old messages to read) when you mentioned "religious fanatics"? The way I see
it, Brother John has not attempted to force you to become a Christian.
Sometimes he will wander by a BBS and send out a few biblical quotes, but where
is the harm in that? I am sure you would not mind having a satanist,a
cultist,witch,practicer of occult,ect tell you about HIS religion (which is
really what they are)! The way I figure it, is if you don't like it, tolerate
it. After a while the person will get te message and stop talking about it with
you. (Except for a suedo-cult called Jahovas Whitnesses, who will come to your
door every chance they get and start selling their religion)

The Honorary Leadhead

Msg # 634 Fri Aug 26, 1989 9:31 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Heave-Hovas
Resp To:633-Married...with Children

Yes,Leadhead, but don't you sort of
have to bear a grudging respect for
someone with a faith strong enough to
make them waste their free time by
going door-to-door making ABSOLUTE
FOOLS of themselves?
I think they are hilarious and LOVE to
see them coming because I know I am
going to be entertained for free by the
modern equivalent of wandering
Mountebanks, Jugglers, and Fools.
The best part is there is no admission
charge, and they COME TO YOU! And they
frolic and amuse us no end-once only
kings and nobles could have court
fools, but this woderful, whacky
screwball cult allows all of us
commoners the honor of so being
entertained!
I eat them.They quake in horror and
pray in vain for my corrupted soul.
It's GREAT CHEAP fun.

Msg # 635 Sat Aug 27, 1989 2:56 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Elections
Resp To:632-Emerald Mall

Well, if your disatisfied with the current regime in Taunton, just elect KEVIN
MARTIN!

Msg # 636 Sat Aug 27, 1989 4:56 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:All
Subject:Commodore's Future

OK. I am a loyal Commodore user (I have owned a C64, and still own a C128 and
an Amiga 500). I don't believe that Commodore is doing very good in the
managament department. I have written letters to the head of Commodore (Now
Harold Cooperman) personally, and gotten no reply. Commodore 8 bits
(C64/128,ect) are falling back due to new technologies. The Amiga line is doing
well, worldwide, but according to Compute magazine, 70% of them are in Europe,
and only 30% are in the US. Some companies are cutting back on support for
Amiga, because of these figures. Amiga is getting no real support (I have seen
only one commercial for Amiga, and that one sucked!). What I suggest is that
Commodore offer a two-year upgrade plan, so that, any registered Commodore
owner can buy an Amiga 500 for only $250.00 for a computer and monitor. I would
like all Commodore users to put down their name on this post (A sort of
computerized petition) saying that if Commodore takes the proper steps, you
will continue to buy Commodore products. I would then like to print out this
petition and mail it to Commodore. (If you see this on other BBS's please do
not sign your name a second time).

Sean Machado

Msg # 637 Sat Aug 27, 1989 11:45 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:CBM Problems, Infinitum
Resp To:636-Commodore's Future

CBM has always had its problems, from nepotism to despotism.
Something tells me Commodore International isn't going to change its way
merely because their consumers want them to, that goes against the CBM nature.

CBM will only change when its baught out by a Japanese firm, or Apple Computer
(the latter i hope).

Msg # 638 Sun Aug 28, 1989 8:08 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:CBM-Change or die.
Resp To:637-Commodore's Future

It is natural for a company with 40%
market penetration and an enormous
installed base, with all the sofware
available for their machines, to be
arrogant and unresponsive.
Whe* I bought my 1541, I had to bring
it back;it left the factory broken.
When I bought my monitor, I had to
bring it back;left the factory with no
raster(!).
Their argument will be that every
component in the system, drives,CPU,
printer,RAM expander, and monitor are
ALL priced at $140-$160. Their
marketing people have determined the
elasticity of demand. At these
prices,people will tolerate this. Above
these prices, they would be driven from
the marketplace.
Ask someone at Lechemere why they
don't carry Commodore. They took such a
beating with warranty returns,C is a
dirty word to them.
Commodore will not change its ways.
Its marketing history has lead them
down a dead end,and like dinosaurs,they
will be unable to adapt and will be
supplanted. If Macyuppietoy buys them,
there will be NO entry-priced units for
people's "first" computer.(Unless you
consider a Trash80, without laughing.)
(copyright waived-you can bufferprint
this to their CEO,and maybe someone can
read it to him, because I doubt HE
can.)

Msg # 639 Sun Aug 28, 1989 1:14 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Support??? Or Marketing...
Resp To:636-Commodore's Future

Err... Get your facts correct first...
1) There are 154 users here Not all are commodore users, not all call.
So no point in asking for signatures.

2) What Do you mean by support?!?!? Tv ads??? Wrongo! That is marketing. and
still get your facts straight commodore is setting asside $12 mil for
tv ads and George Lucas is making the ad's!

3) Support??? Well I hear commodore sold enough units for Lotus and
microsoft to support the machine... now that IS support.
4) Compute?!?!?! You READ that "Mag" It is the most watered down and
stagnet magizine on the market today! Read somthing a bit better!

5) You expect to get a personal answer from the president of the company??
Christ! Are you dreaming! Try and get an answer from the company PERIOD!
Although I hear that is changing soon... I hope so for CBM's Sake.
6) $250??!?!?! Where did you get that figure... that would kill the 64 and 128
line... but look at it this way... HOW CAN THEY AFFORD TO SELL IT FOR THAT?
You sell a product for less than you make it for by simple math you are
going to loose money and Gee... Go out of business...

All I can say is give this up and enjoy your machine... Or Perhaps read the
amiga echo and get some better info than compute it is cheaper and more
interesting.

Oh and another thing... What access are you talking about? THERE isnt access
here... you call here you have access... what you cant use most likely DOSNT
EXIST OR WORK... I think you might remember this is non validation... you have
access to everything... PERIOD.

Msg # 640 Sun Aug 28, 1989 1:16 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Apple?
Resp To:637-Commodore's Future

I doubt Apple... The only RUMOR of a buy out is from HP. And looking at 1.4 of
the OS and other changes It looks alot better for CBM.

Msg # 641 Sun Aug 28, 1989 1:19 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Funny...
Resp To:638-Commodore's Future

Funny From what I have been reading Leechmere was picking up the amiga 500...
Weird.

Msg # 642 Sun Aug 28, 1989 5:51 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:commentary
Resp To:639-Commodore's Future

Wow.

Msg # 643 Sun Aug 28, 1989 5:54 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Maybe they are reforming.
Resp To:641-Commodore's Future

,....or I ran into a particularly
bitter sales clerk, or a MacYuppietoy
addict. But the one in Woburn doesn't
touch any C= with a ten foot pole- but
Lechemere HAS been upscaling of late,
which is why I stopped going there, so
they WOULD go for the top of the line
in anything.They USED to be a store
with good prices.

Msg # 644 Sun Aug 28, 1989 11:03 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:hate to be
Resp To:376-Summers Game!!

If those are your rules how on earth do
you ever stay in school????? Although
with my schedule next year it is
possible... my earliest class is at 12
I think and the last one ends at 5... I
think I can handle it. Hopefully I7ll
find some nice loose men too... I7ve
got to keep my self busy to keep my
mind off of the real world!
TFM

Msg # 645 Mon Aug 29, 1989 8:56 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Disease
Resp To:619-SexualPrefs

Of course I consider Parkinson's to
be a disease, Human. It is a
debilitating illness that eventually
kills those afflicted with it.

I believe one of the underlying
traits that characterize diseases as a
whole is their potential fatality. To
my knowledge, no one has ever died from
just being gay. (Unless you count those
who have been killed in gay-bashing
attacks, or assassinated.) Since gay
people do not immediately begin to
shrivel up and die upon coming out, I
don't consider it a disease.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 646 Mon Aug 29, 1989 9:00 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:582
Resp To:621-SexualPrefs

OK, I've looked it over; the one
concerning acting contrary to one's
nature. What's so slanderous/libellous
about that?!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 647 Mon Aug 29, 1989 9:04 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Validity
Resp To:622-Flying Frisbee

So, in other words, once people stop
seeing results from "God", they'll
probably find some new deity to
worship? Or at least invent some new
one?

Think about it: the Egyptians
worshipped the same gods for several
millenia; the Greeks and the Romans
venerated the same deities for at least
as long a time as that, if not longer.
Christianity has been around for close
to 2000 years. Perhaps its time is
coming as well?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 648 Mon Aug 29, 1989 9:09 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:"Party Witches"
Resp To:624-Flying Frisbee

Well, that might describe one of
them, but the other is quite dedicated,
believe me. (The funny thing is that
his father is a minister...)

I remember some time back that an
overly religious person objected to
trick-or-treating cuz it was based on
Hallowe'en, a pagan ritual.

Also, I take it that your family's
celebrations extend far beyond the
typical Hallowe'en costume party, yes?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 649 Mon Aug 29, 1989 9:13 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Tell me about it...
Resp To:625-SexualPrefs

Myself, I am tiring of this debate
and see all too well the corner we've
backed ourselves into. I can just see
our messages degenerating into their
pure essences: "Environment!!!" one
shouts. "Heredity!!!" the other
proclaims. Until, at least, one has to
go back to school, then the process
begins anew next summer. Pity Human
can't be disproved yet...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 650 Mon Aug 29, 1989 9:17 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Indeed
Resp To:629-Emerald Mall

And Bridgewater is supposed to be
building a very large one in a few
years too! Still, there is one thing;
ANY of these mammoth malls will easily
blow away the Taunton "Mall", the
Swansea Mall, and Westgate!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 651 Mon Aug 29, 1989 9:27 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Long time, no see!!
Resp To:644-Summers Game!!

Hello, Fair Maiden! I hear you're
going to school somewhere on the Cape.
Which school?

I saw your grandparents at Plymouth
this weekend. I don't understand why
your grandmother thinks being a
pharmacist is such a scandalous
thing...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 652 Tue Aug 30, 1989 8:08 AM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:I have no use
Resp To:396-Summers Game!!

I really don't think that I have any
use for an Elisha in MY life..... Hey
am I the only female here????? Just
curious...
TFM

Msg # 653 Tue Aug 30, 1989 8:21 AM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:what if
Resp To:421-advice

Frumpy, what about females who have
close male friends who AREN't gay??? My
best friends are males and I can tell
them just about everything...... And I
tell Jimmie(my VERY VERY best friend)
EVERYTHING and he tells me just about
everything... Maybe it just depends on
what the individual is broght up
with...(oops brought up with) I grew up
in a neighbor hood of all boys so I
make friends alot easier with them...
besides, they're alot less likely to
betray you or stab you in the back..
and they CERTAINLY aren't going to ever
steal your boyfriend or fiance.
Just my little old opinion...
TFM

Msg # 654 Tue Aug 30, 1989 9:18 AM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:you know
Resp To:651-Summers Game!!

Maybe she's not happy about the idea of
me being a legal drug dealer! I'm
starting out at cape cod community
under a math science major and then
transfering to either uri, mass college
of pharmacy or northeastern... gotta
pay for my goofups in high school
now... but I didn't like hs all that
much anyway.... too much politics and
not enough recognition...
You see more of my grandparents than I
do.. isn7t that awful???? Oh well
that's life... hope to see you soon so
we have time to talk again... we used
to have some pretty good walks and
talks when we were younger... later
TFM

Msg # 655 Tue Aug 30, 1989 3:21 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Genes/homosexuality
Resp To:500-SexualPrefs

Hey, how do you figure that being gay is"in the Genes"? I would like you to
take a look at a few generations of homosexuals. Astudy or something. I would
say that to prove that it is a passable trait you would have to come up with a
chance or 95% or higher being gay. I believe its a combination of 1)Preferenc
2)Environment 3)Mental attitudes. Prove me wrong, if you can. If you can show
me a study of Gay people who 1)were raised in a pro-homosexual home 2)raised in
a neutral home and 3) an anti-homosexual home and come up with a conclusion
that 95% of them are gay (or proven closet gays) then you can prove your point
to me.

Leadhead

Msg # 656 Tue Aug 30, 1989 3:33 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Oriental IQ
Resp To:540-Mental Capacity

Orientals DO have a higher IQ for the most part. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL TAUGHT
TO STUDY HARDER THAN ANY AMERICAN I CAN NAME! They work a lot harder at their
tasks, and it pays off.

Leadhead

Msg # 657 Tue Aug 30, 1989 3:55 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Human
Resp To:588-Post, Post, Post?

Hey Human, Fuck you! If people were to go through with your idea's of "gene
correction" I would likely not be here. I have a mild case of Cerebral Palsy
(brain damage at birth in the motor skills [physical control of body] area)
caused bya premature birth. I cannot be noticed as being handicapped as I can
walk, talk,ect the same way everyone else does. The only way to notice is if I
tell someone or if they notice that I walk with my knees slightly bent. My only
limitation is that right now, I cannot lift my legs up above my waist, and with
stretching (touch toes type of deal) I will eventually be fine (when my cords
grow to cath up with the rest of the body at about age 22).

It seems to me that you are nothing but a cowardly,misinformed bigot. Do you
also hate black people? Wanna kill Jews? Think that the Jewish people are gonna
rise up and take over the country??

You try to act wise, but come across as a fool. You have a permanent fan club
of one.

"When a good man speaks, he is worth listening to, but the words of a fool
are a dime a dozen"
(Proverbs 11:20)

Leadhead

Msg # 658 Tue Aug 30, 1989 4:04 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Bible
Resp To:590-SexualPrefs

Hey Human, who are YOU to quote or speak of the bible? I think I can safely
call you an "unbeliever" or you would at least TRY to follow God's laws. YOU
cannot judge people. Thats God's job. If you want one, try trash collection.

You are one of the unbelievers and "false teachers" prophisied by John. If
you are a Christian, then I don't know what I am, cause we are totally
opposite.

Maybe you should think about talking less and thinking more, for once.

Leadhead
(Servant of God, and proud of it!)

Msg # 659 Tue Aug 30, 1989 4:55 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Friends
Resp To:653-advice

Oh, there are non-gay guys who have
very close female friends, don't get me
wrong. I didn't mean to imply that all
straight guys are like that; simply the
majority.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 660 Tue Aug 30, 1989 4:59 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Legal druggie
Resp To:654-Summers Game!!

Yeah, that must be why she speaks of
it so scornfully... I see them more
than you do?! TFM, I'm lucky to see
them twice a year at Plymouth!!

Still, it's good to see you're still
in telecom even though Late Night's
been down for an eternity...

School's shaping up pretty good for
me so far; I've only spent $133.50 on
books for four courses (my fifth
requires no text).

<Frumpy>

Msg # 661 Tue Aug 30, 1989 8:01 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Samhain
Resp To:648-Flying Frisbee

That makes now several i have*known or
heard of, including a Jesuit, who have
been raised in or participated in
Mainstream religions. Fascinating!
Probably based in disillusionment or
rebellion?
We consider Samhain a harvest
festival, merely a nature/bounty
veneration kind of thing. Satanists are
entirely another matter; After all,
Satan had to be invented before
witches could venerate Him,and that
does follow, since the many forms of
Wicca predate the Judeo-Christian era.
In the popular entertainment press the
closest portrayal I have seen of true
Wicca is the book "Harvest Home".(Still
painted with a rather sinister
brush,but Nature can be harsh.)

Msg # 662 Tue Aug 30, 1989 8:12 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Yes indeed...
Resp To:649-SexualPrefs

,and it's always the same. It doesn't
matter whether the subject is gifted
children,retarded children,Gay
children, whatever, the same old
arguments are trundled out with
monotonous regularity ad nauseum to the
last syllable of recorded time.
My last two cents worth is Nature does
not tolerate genetic prolife*ation of
genes which are detrimental to the
survival of the species,
therefore,since Gays have always
existed, it cannot be a strictly
inherited trait. Further, I know
several Gays who have many straight
siblings.
As a straight, while I cannot
realistically imagine the
orientation,(Hmm does this mean I never
met 'Mister Right'?) I can only see it
as a preference, as the title of the
topic suggests, not as a disease.I
could easily,along with everyone else,
be accused of being "sick", but only in
a judgemental way by people with even
more serious problems than mine!

Msg # 663 Tue Aug 30, 1989 8:21 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:That was some response..
Resp To:657-Post, Post, Post?

An interesting observation is that
the physicist Hawking, in his
wheelchair with Lou Gehrig's disease,
could mentally eat anyone or everyone
collectively on this board, including
myself)Felling mentally battered after
reading his book "A Brief History of
Time"), then I wonder if it would have
been such a "good" thing to expunge his
genes from the pool- he DOES have two
children.
Anybody want to bash IQ's with them?
Not me!

Msg # 664 Wed Aug 30, 1989 11:42 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Samhain
Resp To:661-Flying Frisbee

Speaking of Samhain, I don't know as
you've ever watched the Real
GhostBusters cartoon, but twice they've
battled with a robed, pumpkin-headed
spirit named Samhain, who is supposedly
the embodiment of Hallowe'en or
something like that...

So you celebrate it as a
nature/harvest festival, huh? Sounds
vaguely druidic to me...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 665 Wed Aug 30, 1989 11:46 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Proliferation
Resp To:662-SexualPrefs

Yes, I see what you mean. Before our
great scientific advances, the weaker,
those with birth defects, etc., tended
not to survive to proliferate. Only
in modern times have these people been
able to survive through drugs and other
means. I pose this question: by letting
these people have children, are we
"corrupting" our gene pool?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 666 Wed Aug 30, 1989 6:10 PM
From:JOHN SHANAHAN-NW15
To:All
Subject:Comedy Night

As though it were neccessary...

COMEDY AT THE FIJI
Thursday, Sept 28 9:30 pm

Join Host JOHN SHANAHAN (yea, me)
for an evening of laughs with

MARK SCHNEIDER

Host of Continental Cablevision's
"Another Night"
RON VAN DAM

and

JOHN McPHAIL

Fiji Restaurant, Rte 18, Abington
$3 cover, 21 and over, please!

See you there!

Msg # 667 Wed Aug 30, 1989 7:43 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:I guess
Resp To:659-advice

I guess I just happen to have very
special friends either that or they
haven't noticed that I'm female...
although it is rather difficult to NOT
notice I'm female.. I dunno.... I think
sensitivity in a male is very sexy. It
really is...
Later
TFM

Msg # 668 Wed Aug 30, 1989 7:48 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:not bad
Resp To:660-Summers Game!!

I haven't bought my books yet, but I
have a good amount of money put away
for them! I don't really know when the
last time I saw my grandparents was..
you know I think it was that day I saw
you in plymouth.. I'm serious... I've
been so busy with the funerals this
summer and being dumped by my fiance
that I haven't had the time to go and
visit. Oh and of course working, but
I'm on fall hours now and I'm almost
alwyas home so it works out good...
I'll have to bring Jim up to see them
sometime....jim is sorta my new
boyfriend.. he's very special..we've
been friends for years! Next time you
see my grandparents say hello for me!
Good luck in school Frumpy!
Talk to you later
TFM

Msg # 669 Wed Aug 30, 1989 8:15 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Who ya gonna call..
Resp To:664-Flying Frisbee

That stereotype in Ghostbusters was
courtesy of The Legend of Sleepy
Hollow, and is just part of some of the
integration of lore from many sources
making the hodge-podge horror genre.
"Vaguely Druidic" describes it
well;our "roots",as it were, but for
two good looks at the parallels in the
Old Religions, read "The Golden Bough".
In it you will find global origins of
many current superstitions and belief
systems.
Also, try to catch the absolutely
captivating series by the late Joseph
Cambell on mythology on PBS next time
it's around. We,(for Boston Mensa) are
hosting monthly viewings and discussion
groups on this series.As usual,
visitors are welcome. E-Mail me if
interested.

Msg # 670 Wed Aug 30, 1989 10:27 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Staying in
Resp To:644-Summers Game!!

Woah! That's a message from a few weeks ago.

I satay in school because I am SMART, and I also know how to manage my time. I
don't feel that it is taboo to drink a beer or two when doing homework in the
evening. I don't have to get smashed every time alcohol is placed in front of
me.
When I do party, tho, it is ALWAYS after everything is done and all business is
taken care of. Then I get some Jack and blow my brains out, as Sam Kinison
would say.
This semester is a little different though. I have an 8 oclock class every day
and they are all Engineering classes. VERY tough. Oh well, I'll do it.

Jason Meunier
aka
Not-Man

Msg # 671 Wed Aug 30, 1989 10:31 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Existing ones
Resp To:650-Emerald Mall

Yeah, those little malls will shrivel up and die when the new ones come in.

Great, ain't it??

Msg # 672 Wed Aug 30, 1989 10:44 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:All
Subject:See ya this winter

Well, my telecomming has come to an end for this summer, but I'll be back at
the end of December or so, with a few messages thrown in once a month or so whe
n I get the urge to make a ld phone call.

It's been fun.

Jay

Msg # 673 Wed Aug 30, 1989 10:51 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Sensitivity in the Male
Resp To:667-advice

Agreed, it is quite sexy, but
difficult to find for the most part in
most males. I guess the rest prefer to
act out the moronic "macho" image...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 674 Wed Aug 30, 1989 10:55 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Funerals?? Dumped?!
Resp To:668-Summers Game!!

Hunh?! What's all this gloomy talk,
TFM? Why so many funerals? (Kind of an
obvious answer, people have died...)

And you mean to tell me that
Starfighter dumped you?! That bahstard!
Hope your new one (Jim, right?) works
out better...

As for my books, would you believe
that one of them alone cost $45.95???!
Still, $150 is the average at least for
books per semester. At any rate, I hope
you do well in school too!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 675 Wed Aug 30, 1989 10:59 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:MENSA
Resp To:669-Flying Frisbee

Oho!! I know of that group. One of
my friends is/was a member; for a
little while he and I went to some D&D
games at someone's house in Framingham.
Wish I could remember that person's
name...

"The Golden Bough"? Hmmm, if I'm not
mistaken, that book is mentioned in the
role-playing game "Call of Cthulhu" as
having some minor info about the
Cthulhu Mythos...Sounds like a
must-read!!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 676 Wed Aug 30, 1989 11:01 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:8 o'clock classes
Resp To:670-Summers Game!!

Ah yes, the bane of college
existence! Once again, I'm stuck with 8
o'clock classes every single day this
semester, although I do have a break
between every class I have...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 677 Wed Aug 30, 1989 11:04 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Yeah, it is great
Resp To:671-Emerald Mall

Especially if that shoddy little
Taunton "Mall" goes first. I hate that
place, I really do.

Still, let's just hope that all
these great big malls don't lead to the
dread "mall burn-out syndrome"..

<Frumpy>

Msg # 678 Wed Aug 30, 1989 11:51 AM
From:MACMENSAN-NW120
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:What a dangerous question!*gulp*
Resp To:665-SexualPrefs

Without, I hope, getting onto
Eugencs/Ethics, yes, medicine has in
fact circumvented the survival-of -the
fittest evolutionary pressures, and not
always to the advantage of the species.
The whole dispute above was who was to
make the decision as to what was a
genetically transmitted disorder and
what genetic engineering may in the
future do to "eliminate" "bad" genetic
sequences. Everyone would agree
eliminating Hemophilia would be a good
thing to do, for example, but the grey
areas are the Tennessee law which was
invoked at the Nuremburg trials
concerning sterilization of the
retarded. No one would want to be put
in that category, I hope..
(Macmensan is an acct I created to make
logging on from work with the
Macyuppietoy simpler..)

Msg # 679 Wed Aug 30, 1989 12:02 PM
From:MACMENSAN-NW120
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:M/Games night/etc.
Resp To:675-Flying Frisbee

There is still a D+D SIG (Special
Interest Group) which meets monthly, as
well as a games night which meets on
the First Saturday of the month. This
Boston area group is extremely active.
The Golden Bough, in its abridges form
(damn...abridged.diff. kbd.) Is a Must
Read. The ENTIRE original volumes are
rather like wading though molasses and
perhaps would make an entire winter
project. Just get the paperback.(and
THAT's nearly a thousand pages!)
There really isn't much left out, and
it is enjoyable reading, with the
exception of the odd stalled paragraph.

Msg # 680 Wed Aug 30, 1989 6:55 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Apple
Resp To:640-Commodore's Future

Apple has its own problems. They may be in the process of getting sued by a
company called "Apple Recording Co." that allows them to use the name Apple on
their products, and the Apple logo. They were allowed to use it, as long as
they stayed clear of creating any tyoe of musical instrument or device.
Unfortunately for Apple, their newer computers (IIGS,ect) have MIDI ports and
multi channel sterio sound, which voilates the agreement....

Leadhead

Msg # 681 Wed Aug 30, 1989 7:05 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:All
Subject:Amiga Help.

Has do any Amiga owners out here know how to use a program called "Dial203B"?

Its a Wargames type dialing program, and I have the Docs, but it won't dial the
phone when the program is running. I am using a Hayes Compatable Zenith Data
Systems 2400 Baud modem.

I have an A500 with 512k if it makes a difference.

Leadhead

Msg # 682 Thu Sep 1, 1989 10:43 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MACMENSAN-NW120
Subject:Games Night
Resp To:679-Flying Frisbee

Yes, I remember going to that a
couple times. I think we tried to
introduce a new game called Kings &
Things, but I'm not entirely sure.
(Shows ya how long ago that was...) And
as for the AD&D game, we were in that
for a while too. My friend (Mike was
his name, and still is) played a ranger
named Thorl, and I was an illusionist
named Iris Delacott. By now they're
either long-dead or have
grandchildren...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 683 Thu Sep 1, 1989 4:50 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:you'll
Resp To:670-Summers Game!!

I7m sure you'll do fine... I was just a
ggody goody in Hs and am starting to
loosen up a bit now.....As long as
you're keeping your grades up then
that's all that matters... Now if I can
keep MY grades up verything will be
perfect....finally...
later
TFM

Msg # 684 Thu Sep 1, 1989 4:56 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:I wish
Resp To:673-advice

I wish they wouldn't it's really kinda
gross.... wheneverJim or any of the
others start you just do something to
put them in their place.... My friend
and I locked Jim out of his truck in
front of where he works because he was
being a jerk... we had the only keys..
we pushed him to the stage were he said
I'm going to call my mother to get a
set of keys.. yeah real macho in front
of all your buddies! Hey it worked and
he wasn't all that mad when we told why
we had done it... Embarassment works
wonders!
I think the ones who talk the most
about being macho are the ones who are
most uncomfortable about their
masculinity...
Later
TFM

Msg # 685 Thu Sep 1, 1989 5:02 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:funerals and bahstards
Resp To:674-Summers Game!!

grandmother died, starfighters brother
in law was killed in an accident the
day after and my great aunt died... I
went to my grandmothers funeral, I
watched Strfighters neice and nephew
for the other one and My aunt was in
Pennsylvania so I didn't have to go..
and Starfighter and I haven7t been
getting along and he has had a new
"friend" from work who occupied alot of
his time and I haven't seen or heard
from him since I got back from my
grandmothers funeral so I'd say that
that relationship is over and done
with.. wouldn't you? At least this time
it didn't mess me up badly.. I just
accepted thefact that things ahad
changed.. Jim's a very very special guy
and I hope things work out too!It's
kinda day to day right now(and week to
week) but we'll see.. I have a pretty
good feeling about this one... and he
makes me laugh.. so that's good...
Talk to you later
TFM

Msg # 686 Thu Sep 1, 1989 6:40 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:All
Subject:Hasta La Vista

Well.. This is it. My last post.. Yes, I am stepping out now into the wide and
wonderful world of college.. See Ya next summer..

Solomon Kane
(The one and Only.)

Msg # 687 Thu Sep 1, 1989 7:02 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Commentary/Macho/Sensitvity
Resp To:673-advice

Couldn't resist commenting. I often in
jest to my friends, describe myself as
a cringing little effeminate toad of a
man. Why? Because I don't drive a
pickup truck, swill Bud (ugh!), and
watch THE BIG GAME.(There is ALWAYS a
BIG GAME on, somewhere.)
A REAL MAN in the area once
sarcastiacally said," Why don't you
ever come out to the (local dive),
watch the big game, and be a man among
men for once?"
I told him I preferred to be a man
among women. I guess he didn't like the
answer because he never invited me
again. If a man is articulate and at
all sensitive and displays any feelings
he is usually labelled Gay by these
Neanderthals, regardless of his
inclination, anyway,so the next time I
see him,if ever, I'll give him a lewd
wink and offer him an enema! The bitch.

Msg # 688 Thu Sep 1, 1989 7:06 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:D+D sigs/Games nights
Resp To:682-Flying Frisbee

If you enjoyed it and want to check it
out again, let me know, and I will fix
you up with the Scheduel for any given
month. You know visitors are always
welcome.

Msg # 689 Thu Sep 1, 1989 8:37 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Gayisms
Resp To:645-SexualPrefs

No one has yet tod ie from the common cold. No one has yet to die from having
six fingers and toes on each extension. No one has yet to die from many of
these ailments. Yet, how many of us would rather not be AFFLICTED with them?
Homosexuality is an ailment that affects 10% of the human population. It
afflicts because it disallows humans to reproduce in a natural manner. If
humanity is to survive under all possible environments then we must be allowed
the greatest level of chance. When i say "greatest level" in essence i speak
of greatest population. The more humans there are the greater the chance for
survival.
Number five, under what environment could homosexuality be an advantage?
(please, think carefully this time)

Msg # 690 Thu Sep 1, 1989 8:39 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Christianity
Resp To:647-Flying Frisbee

You forget something concerning Christianity. Christianity traces its roots
farther than any religion on the planet.
The paganism of the Galts, the Romans, or the Greeks span little time in
history. However, monotheism is a very, very old thought, and belief.

Msg # 691 Thu Sep 1, 1989 8:41 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Pity
Resp To:649-SexualPrefs

You pity me... And i await a disproval. I don't merely require someone to
bash up a little empirical evidence, but also some sound logic. Niether of
which you have produced. I am here, and will be again. Good luck.

Msg # 692 Thu Sep 1, 1989 8:45 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Studies
Resp To:655-SexualPrefs

A pro-homosexual home? An anti-homosexual home? How could ANY study
establish such levels? Such as study is nearly impossible.
I speak from both experience (my father's family) and discussion with
homosexuals. My ideas donot merely pop out of my mouth and hands. They are
formed by experience, a greater study than the one you attempted to form.

Msg # 693 Thu Sep 1, 1989 8:49 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Proverbs
Resp To:657-Post, Post, Post?

Am i a bigot? Do i favor putting kids with CB out of their supposed genetic
misery? Do i hate religion? Do i hate God? Do i use little quotes from a
book to defend my misunderstandings?
Well, i don't believe i am a biggot. I am a Jew, not to say Jews can't be
biggots (they can be, as i myself have witnessed). Do i support killing lame
children? Dumb children? Psychotic children?
No.
If you want to discuss issues and points, please proceed. I have grone bored
of emotionalism without love.

Msg # 694 Thu Sep 1, 1989 8:54 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Believings, etc..!
Resp To:658-SexualPrefs

I am an "unbeliever"? Its a familiar title, and accusation. To be very
honest with you, a great many Christians have called me that, and undoubtedly
many more are to follow.
What have i said thus far that you find against God?
I want you to take your time with your response. Take the time to really read
throug my messages, and even talk to other people about what i've said, and
what they think of me. Take all the time you need, then answer me -
completely.

Msg # 695 Thu Sep 1, 1989 9:01 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Gaysisms cont.
Resp To:662-SexualPrefs

I've yet to meet anyone serious on this subject that believes homosexuality is
a truly genetic trait. On the contrary, there are those that believe it is
largely genetic (recessive at times) and in a minority, based upon environment
or even bio-chemical problems.
Many ailments have existed in our gene pool for a great deal of time. This
does not mean nature can not be improved upon. This is the exact nature of
society/civilization. Nature slowly evolves into chaos. Case in point, this
planet without our intervention will eventually die on its own, the species
becomming less complex, smaller, and less effecient. The species do adapt,
but when the environment becomes increasingly simpler, the species do also.
When we look at nature as being perfect we rebel against our innate search for
perfection. Nature has many, many keys to understanding life, and turning
Nature around initself, but it also has a few flaws that the sentient mind can
correct (and perhaps even as i speak is elsewhere).

Msg # 696 Thu Sep 1, 1989 9:04 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Hawings, good exmpl
Resp To:663-Post, Post, Post?

Steve Hawkings is a great example. Imagine what wonders he may have been able
to create without his ailment. After all, it will eventually kill him.
Imagine what wonders Einstein would not have created if he had died at 45.
Listen people... I'm not talking about taking someone out of the gene pool
merely due to their genetic flaws. What i AM talking about is correcting
those flaws before they reproduce, in the chromosomes themselves.

Msg # 697 Fri Sep 2, 1989 8:45 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Commentary/Gayisms.
Resp To:689-SexualPrefs

I don't understand why reproduction is
all that important in a world which has
5 billion people, many of whom cannot
feed themselves and are slowly dying of
starvation. Once it was desperately
important, of course.
As a limited support to your Eugenics
doctrine, We have been married over 20
years and have no children, because as
reasonable people, we do not wish to
burden society with problems. My wife
carries a sex-linked genetic kidney
disease,Distal RTA, and I have taken
well over ten Roentgens of Gamma. The
knowlege of this has dictated us not
having children for the greater good of
society,rather than selfishly breed
children who may be a burden to the
medical care system. This was not an
easy decision,but it was one based on
personal values.
(for what it's worth)

Msg # 698 Fri Sep 2, 1989 8:51 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Christianity???
Resp To:690-Flying Frisbee

Nature worship predates literacy and
was therefore not as well chronicalled.
How could Christianity possibly make
that claim? Unless, of course the claim
is made by a creationist....
I would find a god who decides as a
prank to change all the rules on Ar/K40
and C14 dating to be a practical joker
of the first order. Imagine giong to
thetrouble of creating fossils just to
screw up researchers! As * lover of
jokes,I admire it.

Msg # 699 Fri Sep 2, 1989 9:02 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:HAWKING AND EUGENICS
Resp To:696-Post, Post, Post?

i DON'T THINK ANYONE WILL OBJECT TO
THE PROPOSITION OF CORRECTING A "BAD
COPY" IN THE GENES TO ELIMINATE
SOMETHING TERRIBLE FOR FUTURE
GENERATIONS AT ALL. THE PROBLEM ARISES
IN THE AREAS OF DEFINING WHAT IS TO BE
ELIMINATED. IT WOULD PROCEED;
1. CANCER IS BAD-ELIMINATE IT.
2. CERTAIN BEHAVIUOR IS BAD-GET RID OF
IT.
3. tHOUGHTS AGAINST THE STATE ARE
BAD..

HUMANITY HAS SHOWN REPEATEDLY THAT WHEN
SCIENCE GIVES IT A TOOL, THEY GRAB IT
BY THE WRIXXX(SORRY-SOMETHING WENT
WIERD AND HAD TO SWITCH TERMS) WRONG
END AND MISUSE IT AS A HAMMER.
THE THREAT TO THE LONGEVITY OF THE
SPECIES AND THE PLANET ARE MOSTLY OUR
DOIND ANYWAY, AND ITMAY BE NATURE'S
INTENT TO RID THE PLANET OF THIS
NUISANCE SPEC*ES.

Msg # 700 Fri Sep 2, 1989 9:22 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:On second reading..
Resp To:695-SexualPrefs

Nature does not have to entropically
go to chaos. Order can come from Chaos,
and may have since the Beginning.
Examples of order coming from chaos
are the snowflake,a fractal shape whose
origin begins in the chaos of the
random water molecules in a storm,or of
the phenomenon of Lorenz attractors.

Msg # 701 Fri Sep 2, 1989 10:10 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Children, Population
Resp To:697-SexualPrefs

If you can sympathize with someone who will not bare children for fear of
passing on a genetic kidney disorder, then why do you not sympathize with
someone who wishes not to pass on homosexuality (a probable genetic disorder
as well)?
We as parents, and the generation past mine must have the ability not to pass
on such disorders. No one should be without children for these reasons. No
one should be unable to reproduce themselves of (although in infinite
variations) due to such problems.
This is not so much a point of population, but genetic justice if you will.

Msg # 702 Fri Sep 2, 1989 10:16 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Huh?
Resp To:698-Flying Frisbee

I am not a creationists so i won't take the space or time to address your
quible about carbob dating, etc. I'll continue to leave that to you.
There has been acheological discoveries (a very recent one included matter of
fact... wish i could remember the city/tel) that refer to monotheistic
worship within the Middle Eastern regions of Iraq, Iran, Jordan and Kuwait
(Mesopotamia). The "nature worship" that took place in the European regions,
Far Eastern regions, and even some African regions can only be prescribed to
bastardizations of the original philosophy.
The Bible, no matter how misinterpreted, has been verified as a very good
historical and social source of information concerning ancient societies.
Where there is legend, there must be also a little fact.

Msg # 703 Fri Sep 2, 1989 10:22 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Planetary Egos
Resp To:699-Post, Post, Post?

I don't think nature, or this planet has anything remotely similair to
intentions, or the consciousness it implies. This planet is a connection of
many organisms that act in unity, but not collective intelligence.
Genetic engineering is already here and will continue to dominate argiculture
and eventually the hospitals and clinics of my generation. To say that it has
a sever potential for misuse is true, but to say that this misuse outways the
miriadof possible benefits is not. The potential for its misuse do not
outwiegh the potential good it will do for humanity.
One day that world media will speak of the "scar of genetic engineering" but
in the same breath they will speak of the scar tissue that has been permantly
removed from humanity due to genetic engineering.
In an symbolic example, should be melt down all the scaples merely because
they have the potential to harm as well as heal?

Msg # 704 Fri Sep 2, 1989 10:35 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Simpler Orders
Resp To:700-SexualPrefs

To be honest i really hate cosmologies use of the word JQimplies,
to me at least, compleisorder, without system or meaningful unity. This
does not apply to Natursthe remotest sense. To use the word "chaos"
in a discussion concerninis like talking about alphabetizing and how
the mind processes information.

Let me clarify then... The world, the universe, is de-evolving, changing,
into simpler, and simpler forms of order. The complexity and the effeciency
of the species and the formed energy within the Universe is changing into less
complex, simpler forms of order. There is always order within the Universe,
for existence preceeds order. The very nature of the Universe disallows
disorder.
However, there are simpler forms of order. A glass bottle left for millenia
on a surface that will not weather (as impossible as it sounds, and is) will
eventually disintegrate into glass dust on the surface. The glass dust is a
simpler disorder than the bottle. The Universe is continuously falling down
into a simpler order.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Msg # 705 Fri Sep 2, 1989 10:42 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Uhhhhh...
Resp To:700-SexualPrefs

Let me re-enter that first paragraph. I wrote that message twice, the first
time i was knocked off the system due to callwaiting, and quickly sent it back
online at too fast a speed for the system, thus a lot of words were left out.
Here it is, the first paragraph in correct, more meaningful form:

To be honest i really hate cosmologies use of the word "chaos." It implies,
to me at least, complex disorder, without system or meaningful unity. This
does not apply to Nature even in the remotest sense. To use the word "chaos"
in a discussion concerning nature is like talking about alphabetizing and how
the mind processes information.

Finis. Hopefully, hopefully(!) that makes a bit more sense...

Msg # 706 Fri Sep 2, 1989 10:59 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Judgements
Resp To:689-SexualPrefs

Human, when you can create life, then you can go ahead and judge it.
Otherwise knoc

Leadhead

Msg # 707 Fri Sep 2, 1989 11:02 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Hmmmm...
Resp To:692-SexualPrefs

I personally do not care either way for homosexuals. Thet is their choice.
What I do not like, is you judging it to be an affliction, and thereby
appointing yourself to get people to "find a cure".therefor cannot judge.

Leadhead

Msg # 708 Sat Sep 3, 1989 11:37 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Eugenics
Resp To:701-SexualPrefs

I still haven't seen evidence in any
literature that sexual preference is
strictly a genetic characteristic.
Until absolute and reproduceable
evidence is produced, anecdotal
evidence will have to be discounted.
An example of this is families which
have several gay members. Can it be
proven that the subliminal message of
being gay as an acceptable a*ternative
is not in fact the origin, and not
heredity? I don't KNOW, and until I do,
I cannot call it an inherited trait
such as X-linked Distal Renal Tubular
Acidosis or Hemophelia, etc.
IF I KNEW 50% of my offspring would be
Gay,but otherwise in perfect
health,that would not stop me from
having children. I just don't see it as
the terrible curse you do, that's all.
Look on the bright side-if I had 3 gay
sons, it would free up 3 women for your
straight ones!

Msg # 709 Sat Sep 3, 1989 11:46 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Fact buried in legend
Resp To:702-Flying Frisbee

In that the Bible, the Bhagavd
Gita,and all other holy books of all
cutures share a flood legend and other
parallels,of course I agree with you
that there was certainly a global
inundation. Further, practically all
religious or arcane systems boil down
to the same archetypes, so there is a
shred of truth in all of them.
As to one particular religion being
"first" or "oldest", that will always
be a personal belief that wil never be
resolved by objective argument.
All religions cannot be right,
however,since many claim to be the
"only" truth. When confronted with that
position, argument is futile.(Wars
start that way...)

Msg # 710 Sat Sep 3, 1989 11:54 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Genetic Engineering
Resp To:703-Post, Post, Post?

Oh it's here to stay, allright. I was
alluding to the mess we have made of
the planet every time technology gives
us a new tool, that's all.
Steam power and the Industrial
revolution gave us a good reason to
burn fossil fuels. Open air nuclear
testing has,since my first Gieger
counter in 1958,increased the local
background count from 65 counts/minute
to nearly 80 CPM.(Don't blame Pilgrim
for that one- The nuclides have been
identified.)
It just seems to me that e
revolutionary new technology always
outstrips our ability to foresee the
consequences which come with the
technology- but once the Genie is out
of the bottle, there is never any
turning back.

Msg # 711 Sat Sep 3, 1989 12:01 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:2nd Law of Thermodynamics..
Resp To:704-SexualPrefs

Yes, and the bottle's components go to
more stable energy states. no one is
going to repeal the Thermodynamics
laws, but at times the theories of
Chaos seem to operate in opposition to
them.Physical Chem is a good
example.One can never predict the
reactions of an idividual free radical
in a system, but can predict with
accuracy the outcome of a liter of
them. In a rough sense this is deriving
some order out of the chaos of all the
individual radicals in a reaction, all
the while operating within the
constraints of thermodynamic
equilibria.

Msg # 712 Sat Sep 3, 1989 12:05 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Wasn't too bad the first time.
Resp To:705-SexualPrefs

The current interest in Chaos may only
be a mental excercise in a different
way of looking at nature. It may in
fact be nothing revolutionary, but has
some fascinating insights. If you get a
chance, give the book a read-it doesn't
really contradict contemporary
science,but gives some entertaining
insights.If you like Fractals, it's a
must.

Msg # 713 Sat Sep 3, 1989 3:36 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:OK
Resp To:694-SexualPrefs

OK. First of all I would like to apologise for being judgemental, which is
what got me upset it the first place. Secondly, I am not happy with a comment
you made earlier "..Where Saul goes to the Witch of Endor and asks for magical
help...." " I wish they would make up their mind."

And you called the Bible "A book".

That is like calling JRR Tolken's Lord of the Rings just another fantasy
series. That is like calling Dune, another sci-fi book.

Now you claim to be Jewish, but I doubt that. Most Jewish people are quite
strong in their beliefs of else they would have become Christian. You don't
seem to be.

Now the only way I see to "correct" a gene is to destroy the fetus. That
fetus could have easily been me, as my mother qualified for a medical abortion,
but refused.

Now I admit, I have been somewhat judgemental, and I was in that way, a
hippocrite for a time. I just don't like you judging entire groups, and then
making blanket decisions. That is what Hitler did. In my opinion (and the
worlds, hopefully) Hitler was nothing but a greasy-haired,short arrogent little
man who got what he deserved. No one can make such blanket judgements on
people. And that includes Gays. Let them be. As long as they don't wanna make a
pass at me, I am neutral.

Leadhead
(Respond to that, if you will.)

Msg # 714 Sun Sep 4, 1989 8:56 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Witch of Endor statement.
Resp To:713-SexualPrefs

I was the one who said that. I also
called the Bible a "book", since that
is the meaning of the word.
Even those who profess the Bible was
divinely inspired will admit onecan
find a piece of scripture to justify
anything because it was taken down by
mortals with failings. The same book
which teaches "an eye for an eye.."
also teaches the doctrine of turning
the other cheek if a man shall strike
you. Examples of such contradictions
are legion. Fundamentalist attempts to
use this work in a literal sense is one
explanation of the proliferation of so
many splinter groups,all supposedly
based on the same source, and who
heartily condemn each other.
If the book is divine in origin, why
does it engender such hatred between
peoples and so much condemnation of
different people.If you want to see
some SERIOUS anti-gay attitudes, check
out Leviticus. They don't mess around
with Gay rights in that chapter-the
solution is absolutely identical with
Hitler's.
I am not totally putting it down-it is
after all the basis of our laws and all
moral codes are derived from it. But
when a work is transliterated from
Hebrew (Daniel and Revelations
excepted,which are Aramaic) to Greek,
to Latin, to the vulgar language, and
then people try to take it Literally,
it will cause problems.

Msg # 715 Mon Sep 5, 1989 9:42 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Uncomfortable
Resp To:684-advice

Yes, I think it's all a big front
too so that they won't be suspect. All
in all, it's pretty dumb, and I thought
your solution to Jim's attitude was
quite amusing!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 716 Mon Sep 5, 1989 9:45 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Oy vay...
Resp To:685-Summers Game!!

Boy, talk about one right after the
other...

Yes, it sounds as if things are on
the rocks for you two. In any case, I
do hope that things work out for the
best (whatever that may be!)...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 717 Mon Sep 5, 1989 9:49 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Real Men Doing Manly Things
Resp To:687-advice

Excellent ripartee, Mensan!! I guess
that really put him in his place, eh?
Y'know, tho, if those three things are
all that qualify one as "macho", then I
think I'll pass, thank you veddy much!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 718 Mon Sep 5, 1989 9:52 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Signing up
Resp To:688-Flying Frisbee

Hmmmm, I'd really have to get back
to you on that one, Mensan. I know that
most of my weekends are already taken
up for most of September AND October
(my mother's craft shows), plus I'm
already heavily involved in a local
campaign which I enjoy veddy, veddy
much, so I'm not sure as I'd have time
for it! But thanks for the offer, I do
appreciate it.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 719 Mon Sep 5, 1989 10:05 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Survival
Resp To:689-SexualPrefs

I really don't see the extreme
emphasis on reproduction, number
fifty-nine. Goodness knows, every night
on this planet, billions of people are
having sex, and not all of them will
have children as a result. The way
you're talking, it sounds as if
copulation without reproduction is some
cardinal sin or something.

If babies were produced every nine
months or so, we would have a terrible
population expansion, not to mention a
horrific burden on the mothers! One
child is bad enough, never mind others
close to its age!!

I just hope that when you do marry,
you don't prove your view by keeping
your wife continually pregnant and
raising a brood of 15+ children....

<Frumpy>

Msg # 720 Mon Sep 5, 1989 10:13 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Bible
Resp To:702-Flying Frisbee

Oh yes, the Bible is, if nothing
else, an excellent source of ancient
history and society. However, as
anything beyond that, it must be taken
with a proverbial and cliched grain of
salt...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 721 Mon Sep 5, 1989 3:02 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:If it works
Resp To:715-advice

If it works use it! And it does.... He
still puts on an attitude, but if I did
half of the work he does I guess I'd
have a bit of an attitude too.... My
biggest risk is being bitten by a brat,
or sworn at by a teenager or being
yelled at by senior citizens, I don't
risk my life being shot at or risk
catching the Aids virus, or get cracked
ribs in my line of work and that'S what
he faces each day he goes up there....
But still everyone has to be put into
their place once in a while..... and he
was...
Be good and take care
TFM

Msg # 722 Tue Sep 6, 1989 9:07 PM
From:MEPHISTOCLES-NW38
To:All
Subject:Hiya

Welp, I'm still trying to get into this, but, Summers over, Things are changing
our world is dynamically changing.... So I'm here, respond, I'm off... :)

Msg # 723 Wed Sep 7, 1989 12:32 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Risks
Resp To:721-advice

What does he do that involves all
those risks?? Is he some kind of cop,
or correctional institute officer?

In that case, I'm hardly surprised
his moods aren't the best. ('Course, I
myself am somewhat known for my
attitudes too...)

<Frumpy>

Msg # 724 Wed Sep 7, 1989 6:49 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:he's
Resp To:723-advice

He's an EMT, and emergency room tech
and a firefighter. He has 4 jobs and he
works in a not too nice section of
boston....I saw him very briefly
yesterday and I haven't the faintest
idea when I'll see him next... so all
available males... Fair Maiden is more
or less single...hint hint.. and frumpy
can tell you that I'm not too horrible
to look at!
Frumpy.. school is a blast.. can't
wait for classes to begin... so far I
really like it.. except for the Bs
about you can't work more than 20 hours
and still be successful. I HAVE to work
morethan 20 or else I can't afford to
go or have my car or pay all those
loose men(just kidding).
Oh well enough is enough
Later all
TFM

Msg # 725 Fri Sep 9, 1989 9:12 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Blast
Resp To:724-advice

I'm enjoying my sophomore year at
BSC too. My biggest classes have almost
50 students, but my French IV class
only has three!!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 726 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:08 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:personal hygeine....
Resp To:445-Flying Frisbee

I'm sorry, but i don't see where you
can support that....

each individual is entitled to personal
privacy to preform whatever rituals
required...(ahem)...

somehow, the combination of male and
female showers, toilets, and dressing
areas would be a great sexual fantasy,
but not at all practical in any social,
economic, or philosophical means.

j.a. berard

Msg # 727 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:15 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:culture
Resp To:555-Mental Capacity

quite ethnocentric robert....(as usual)

however, you base your asessment of a
culture solely on it's technological
development.

and I suppose we won the vietnam waR?

we had napalm, agent orange, superior
air-strike capability...

what's your excuse now?

japan. a solid country. key
organization of population, and general
unity. it works for them.

ours doesn't for us. so who is actually
superior?

j.a. berard

Msg # 728 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:17 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:mixed races
Resp To:556-Mental Capacity

the population's gene pool will
inevitibly become intertwined. nothing
can stop that.

isolation of one purebred genetic
"race" if you will is a silly idea.

the outcome will be a weaker offspring.

j.a. berard

Msg # 729 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:20 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:seeing is beleiving
Resp To:557-Mental Capacity

no. what you actually see is a people
who are far more motivated for success
and acheivement, than the average
white.

lazy, arrogant, prejudiced, quite often
given to fits of rage at the slightest
annoyance of his emotions.

j.a. berard

Msg # 730 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:22 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:homosexuality
Resp To:560-SexualPrefs

agreed completely. homosexuality is not
a disease.

yeah.. now what?

Msg # 731 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:26 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:reason?
Resp To:566-SexualPrefs

paranoia. another one word definition
of why some folks want to erradicate
what already is, instead of coping with
one's personal emotional unacceptance.

maybe someone will find out.

isn't there a ratio? 1 in 5?

Msg # 732 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:27 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:ha!
Resp To:569-SexualPrefs

hell... i don't feel like answering
this intelligently.. ha!

i just loved that last line!

Msg # 733 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:29 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:why?
Resp To:572-Mental Capacity

probably because the oriental would
stay to finish...the caucasian
wouldn't.

Msg # 734 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:32 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:breasts
Resp To:578-advice

then you my friend do not appreciate
beauty... i am a total gutter mind on
this subject...

voluptuous and huge. damn i love those
25 pound breasts. shit, i'd trade my
lt. kernal for a shot at those.

Msg # 735 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:36 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:the duo
Resp To:584-Mental Capacity

one point many have failed to
comprehend:

intelligence and academic acheivement
are not related. intelligence cannot
be based on test scores, or g.p.a.

in fact, many of the more intelligent
folks were under-acheivers in the
g.p.a. i.q. game...

one "knows" when s/he is intelligent.
one also does not know how to master
the other side of the coin(brain) -
emotions. they often cloud the other
side...

but do you know the hotel in los
angeles?

Msg # 736 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:43 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:sex...lets be real.
Resp To:587-SexualPrefs

sex... for a better definition is a
mutual act between one, two, or many if
you like group sex.

just for procreation? i think those
hardcore roman catholic ideals have
flown up and out the door of the
vatican as well.

don't tell me john paul doesn't get a
little on the side.. goes to confession
and says a few hail mary's... yeah big
deal.

i'll let you in on something:

celibacy in the church=economics.

if the church allowed priests and nuns
to have families, they would have to be
supportedby the church! and they ain't
gonna do that.

the church is the biggest, richest
bussiness in the world.

bleck. show me where robert.... show me
where god talked to moses and said.

"yo mo. you can't go gettin' any pussy
cuz I ani't gonna lay out the cash fo
yo ten kids... i ain't no weffare
dipartmint.... mo fo..."

ha! yeah okay robert.. and the world is
flat... universe is closed... and
mastrubation will cause pimples..

give me a break!! damn! ack! now I know
why i stopped calling last may...

j.a. berard
h

Msg # 737 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:45 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:you...
Resp To:588-Post, Post, Post?

and i always thought you were the
anti-christ.

satan's homeboy
me

Msg # 738 Sat Sep 10, 1989 12:47 AM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:never got any love
Resp To:589-SexualPrefs

i suggest deep analysis.

sounds like you have the jim morrison
complex...

he didn't like his mother either. do
you blame your mother for your own
obviously repressed feelings? they show
through very clear.

aside from the fact that i personally
can't stand you...i'm trying very hard
to be impartial.....

well..maybe not that hard.

j.a. berard

Msg # 739 Sun Sep 11, 1989 12:24 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:iq Game.
Resp To:735-Mental Capacity

Sometimes a person does not "know" they are gifted but may strongly suspect it
when they are labelled and persected. My wife, for example, never had any idea
of where she was on the curve, but the corporate world labelled her a "space
shot". Much later she was tested and was quite surprised.
I personally don't think valid data can be obtained from SAT or GRE tests,
because one can purchase study guides for them. This is quite heatedly disputed
and my viewpoint is unpopular, but I can't imagine studying to "get Smart".
It's either there or it isn't. One can study to ace a test, but not to change
his eye color or other genetic traits.
(This oughta get something going...)

Msg # 740 Sun Sep 11, 1989 12:31 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:We're NOT all like that!
Resp To:736-SexualPrefs

,..so don't stop calling on the account of a few religious hysterics- we need
them for amusement. My comments on Organized Religion, Incorporated have
ignited a few very entertaining firestorms. I love to watch people preach
brotherhood and then publicly practice intolerance- it exposes the whole scam.
It also gives everyone a huge adrenaline rush regardless of their beliefs. The
righteous condemn me to Heck, or the Abyss,or something, and the rest laugh.
It's great if done in the spirit of friendly debate.
(Besides, many strongly suspect those who rave over our condemnation are
typing with one hand.)

Msg # 741 Sun Sep 11, 1989 1:16 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:True.
Resp To:739-Mental Capacity

As In School... I didn't do well in high school I didn't know the "System" I
only got c's and d's and looking from my high school grades one would think i
am not "Smart" But after high school gee look at my Q.P. 3.7 Hmmmm Somthing
must have gone wrong before??? Still My old records can't be wrong?? Can They?
I think the grading system is Quite lop sided... How bout that program you can
buy: "Where there is a will there is an A" Make a c and d student into a
student with no effort! Hmmm... Is that learning? Or is that teaching the
"System" The student conforming to everybody else. Sigh.

Msg # 742 Mon Sep 12, 1989 7:49 AM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:class size
Resp To:725-advice

My drug class is small, the english
class is small, the psych lecture is
big, but there are smaller classes to
supliment it...today I have math and
economics...I came home completely and
uttery exhausted last night and this
morning I could barely get up.... My
body has to get used to a strange
schedule again.... I saw Jim briefly
yetserday in the AM.. he showed up as I
was getting ready for work.. so I saw
him about 20 minutes total...fun....
oh well talk to you soon.. hope today
isn't too boring tho
TFM

Msg # 743 Mon Sep 12, 1989 8:07 AM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:IT's Going to...
Resp To:739-Mental Capacity

You're right it is going to get
somethinng going. In grade school, when
we were tested for our SAT's I did
well. I was an honor student at the
time too. Mean while there were others
who did not do nearly as well as I did,
and as result were not honor students..
After a certain grade these tests just
don't matter anymore... around Freshman
year or so... No one mentioned them
anymore.... this is when those who
hadn't done so well began to improve
and others, myself included slipped. It
wasn't that the work was too hard( I
was In mostly honors and a couple of AP
courses, the college prep I had were
the fun courses I wanted) It was more
that one course that was very poorly
taught left me frustrated, this
frustration came through to my other
classes and I labelled high school as 4
years of wasted time. For me I really
think it was. And because of this I
never achieved academically in HS, much
to my parents frustration.. in other
side activities I did quite well. There
is a BIG difference between
intelligence and how well someone does
in school. I'm sure I was thought of as
a dip or a dumb blond because of my not
too wonderful grades or the fact the I
was extremely quiet. College is going
to be my proving time. I have to make
up for my past mistakes now, like
taking a much lower math course than I
wanted but....Mean while there are
still those who sit with their eyes
glued to the text book everynight
trying to absorb and they really have
to work for every little thing they
get... Well now that I've probably lost
most of you somewhere way back I'll
sign off
Later all
TFM

Msg # 744 Mon Sep 12, 1989 8:09 AM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:oops
Resp To:739-Mental Capacity

that was not the SATs we took in grade
school it was the California
Achievement Tests. Just thought I
shoul clear up my mistake.
tfm

Msg # 745 Mon Sep 12, 1989 1:10 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Ratio
Resp To:731-SexualPrefs

Not quite that high, Decker.
Actually, it's 1 in 10.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 746 Mon Sep 12, 1989 1:14 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:25 lb breasts = beauty?
Resp To:734-advice

Apparently our definitions of
"beauty" don't coincide. Ah well. Oh
yes, I hope you're not expecting
answers to most of your replies; Rog,
Not-Man, and Robert Adams have all gone
away to college as far as I know...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 747 Mon Sep 12, 1989 1:21 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Exhaustion
Resp To:742-advice

I haven't quite gotten used to
getting up at 6 a.m. myself. Even
though last night I went to bed around
10:30, I still had to drag myself out
of bed at 6:20... Still, the classes
seem good so far. Plus I don't have to
do a term paper this semester!!!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 748 Mon Sep 12, 1989 1:51 PM
From:REBEKAH-NW12
To:All
Subject:hi again

well hi everyone - i decided to brighten my day with a little bit of network
23!! so how is everyone ??? im fine and driving -i'm at massasoit Laura's
fine and is down at smu and has radio stuff - well if i dont call again
just remember i love the way this board used to be!!!
/s

Msg # 749 Mon Sep 12, 1989 6:03 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:sat, etc... the curve
Resp To:739-Mental Capacity

Oh most assuredly agreed.

it is impossible to judge intellectual
capability and (judge) an individuals
"ammount" of intelligence based soley
on a test.

on being gifted, well. it would seem
most logical that if one were, they
would know it.

hmm. i suppose this isn't the
controversey you expected...

talk later

Msg # 750 Mon Sep 12, 1989 6:05 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:the religious right.
Resp To:740-SexualPrefs

well.. my private "beef" with human
(aka) r.k. adams, goes back quite some
years. although, he hasn't changed
much. folks laughed then too.

Msg # 751 Mon Sep 12, 1989 6:09 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:not-man
Resp To:746-advice

well... damn good ridance. i can stop
my telecom strike.

you know. i remember sex trek,
gratuitous sex, and a fun system.

last may when r. the k. adams showed
his holier than you other scum-bags
face and started thumping his bible
again... heh.. well, need i say more. i
have been waiting for september, i like
network xxiii... it is a shame that it
can go down the tubes for 3 months on
account of "a very derranged and
immature person".

just my personal views.

Msg # 752 Mon Sep 12, 1989 6:10 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:REBEKAH-NW12
Subject:so did i
Resp To:748-hi again

well! now that "human" is gone maybe we
can party!

bring back gratuitous sex!!!

Msg # 753 Mon Sep 12, 1989 7:15 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Controversey
Resp To:749-Mental Capacity

Oh, I don't EXPECT it, or always look
for it, I just blunder into it once in
a while!
The Dale Carnegie course is on the
"Things to do someday" list, along with
obscure plans to master the violin and
climb Mount Everest!

Msg # 754 Mon Sep 12, 1989 7:31 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:The System Game.
Resp To:741-Mental Capacity

Yes, interesting how a person can
slide through High School on low
grades, then go to college and explode.
The reason is high school is limited
by the class dullards, so there is no
challenge.It is also cost effective to
get them all through, whether anyone
can sign their name or make change
after they graduate.
I recently took the Stanford-Binet
after many(!) years to see if I had
lost anything in the wetware
department. I found my short-term
memory was going to hell and I was
worried.
The test is given in levels until a
failure rate is reached and that
determines the test level and standard
deviation. I got the first three
questions WRONG!!! They were the EASY
ones.After that I had no problem.
CHALLENGE! Without it, there is no
reason to think or learn.
(As it turned out, I didn't lose any
wetware-just patience! They did NOT
throw me out of Mensa or Intertel.)

Msg # 755 Mon Sep 12, 1989 7:44 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Grades as Artificial Intelligence.
Resp To:743-Mental Capacity

High school did not count with me,
either, as I had pointed out to Derec.
It is just a nuisance-a trial by
ordeal, to be tolerated until the
challenges start. What on earth can
anyone above average expect to get from
a system targeted to mass produce
diplomas for the 50th percentile? The
whole system is designed to teach 68%
of the population with IQ's of 95 to
105 how to write their name, and with
luck, get into a school where they
begin to learn something.
I absolutely despised High School to
the extent I STILL get depressed every
September!
If there is a Hell for me, it will be
sitting in a High School classroom
being "taught" by an unemployable moron
who couldn't find a real job, and
wanted to screw off summers. There were
exactly TWO exceptions who were
motivated and dedicated teachers who
were instrumental in shaping my future,
and I will always be grateful to them.
A rather sad percentage! All the rest
were just trash I would't hire to wash
glassware in my lab.(Some I WOULD hire
to scrub urinals,however!)

Msg # 756 Mon Sep 12, 1989 7:47 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Ahhh the CAT's!
Resp To:744-Mental Capacity

Yeah,I remeber them. I was an oddity
in that I achieved a bimodal
distribution, testing very well on
subjects I deemed worthy, and testing
as a GENUINE idiot on all the rest!
Must have raised hell with their
statistics.(What satisfaction!)

Msg # 757 Mon Sep 12, 1989 7:56 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Ratio(s)
Resp To:745-SexualPrefs

Depends on where you are a bit,
doesn't it? Maybe 1:10 in the general
population, but it brings to mind a
Masonic teaching: "The Empire State
building and the Eiffle Tower are both
plumb but not parallel"
Everything should be measured in its
own environment if specificity is
desired.
What's the off-season ratio in P-town?
What's the ratio of Gay women in
Northampton?
We have blundered into places
straights were definately not in the
majority, and further, were most
certainly not welcome-After all, we
were QUEER there!( Remembering an
absolute BITCH of a waiter.....)

Msg # 758 Mon Sep 12, 1989 7:57 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:25 lb. breasts revisted.
Resp To:746-advice

****MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!*******

Msg # 759 Mon Sep 12, 1989 8:04 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Awww SHAME I missed it!
Resp To:750-SexualPrefs

I have not been on this board even a
year, and feel CHEATED! You mean this
Holy Roller thing has been going on
THAT long? Here's hoping a few will bop
on to save our souls and do some
evangelizing!
The great thing about BBS ing is that
the viewers have no idea whether you
are believing everything, laughing your
haed off, or uttering strange and
blasphemous dark incantations.
BTW, only six weeks to Samhain, and we
are STILL looking for a plump baby for
the "party"........
Blessed Be!

Msg # 760 Mon Sep 12, 1989 8:15 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:I had NO idea!
Resp To:751-advice

Oh woe- if only I had known the
individual was one of THEM! *sigh*
I know it's rotten and unethical to
enter a battle of wits with the
unarmed, but so many of my old friends
have turned into them, that I turn into
a pit bull.
I returned home last year from my
mother's funeral to find a letter from
an old classmate waiting. It was full
of "Save your Soul" drivel- I mean I
really felt like being preached at
right then. Since the letter came from
Alaska, and I couldn't physically get
my hands on him to hurry him to Jesus
special delivery(!), I sat down and
wrote the most vitriolic invective ever
to appear in the English language-
three pages of stark fury from the
unbridled monstrous Demonically
inspired unconcious.
For some reason, I have never recieved
another letter.
Well, If they can puke their beliefs
on us, then it follows "What they sow,
they may reap"!

Msg # 761 Wed Sep 14, 1989 12:38 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Views
Resp To:751-advice

Yes, I've been told that when he's
around, the board takes on a striking
similarity to a certain Embassy of
Knowledge, yes?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 762 Wed Sep 14, 1989 12:45 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:General Ratios
Resp To:757-SexualPrefs

Welllll, I was speaking generally
when I said 1:10. Obviously in some
areas, such as P-town, Boston, New
York, San Francisco, and Key West, the
ratio is much much higher; similarly,
the ratio seems to be a helluva lot
lower in rural areas and the Bible
Belt. (Of course, this may just be cuz
of parochial attitudes and/or fear of
being found out...)

<Frumpy>

Msg # 763 Wed Sep 14, 1989 12:46 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:MOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Resp To:758-advice

Now leave Aunt Flabby out of this!!!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 764 Wed Sep 14, 1989 12:50 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Plump baby
Resp To:759-SexualPrefs

For the longest time there used to
be a story that the late Charles Addams
drew a cartoon of a strange-looking man
talking to a hospital nurse holding a
baby in a blanket. The man then said,
"Oh, no need to wrap it; I'll eat it
here." ...

It never happened.

The only drawing that ever came
close was one of a nurse sticking her
head out of the room and telling the
bizarre father, "Congratulations! It's
a baby!!"

Just wanted to let you know that.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 765 Wed Sep 14, 1989 8:08 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Yeah...
Resp To:762-SexualPrefs

They're hiding their tails from the
rednecks, and don't realize the
Crackers are too busy with their
animals to care!

Msg # 766 Wed Sep 14, 1989 8:10 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:The Adams cartoon!
Resp To:764-SexualPrefs

,..a good example of why didn't breed!

Msg # 767 Mon Sep 18, 1989 12:41 PM
From:VIC RATTLEHEAD-NW47
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:????
Resp To:482-Married...with Children

hello,DEREC THE BLANK!

Msg # 768 Mon Sep 18, 1989 12:46 PM
From:VIC RATTLEHEAD-NW47
To:All
Subject:????

hellohello

Msg # 769 Mon Sep 18, 1989 7:02 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:VIC RATTLEHEAD-NW47
Subject:Hello indeed!
Resp To:767-Married...with Children

,...and congrats on a FASCINATING
name! Hmmm, VIC Rattlehead, eh? Reminds
me of my first computer!!!!

Msg # 770 Mon Sep 18, 1989 7:15 PM
From:VIC RATTLEHEAD-NW47
To:All
Subject:???????

hello
how are you

Msg # 771 Mon Sep 18, 1989 7:21 PM
From:VIC RATTLEHEAD-NW47
To:All
Subject:/?????

do mci5

hello!

Msg # 773 Mon Sep 18, 1989 10:58 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Sources
Resp To:708-SexualPrefs

I have never argued that homosexuality is purely genetic, to the contrary. I
have continously stated that is largely genetic, but there are many
exceptions (IE environment).

Msg # 774 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:07 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:The Bible, and Jew
Resp To:713-SexualPrefs

Its funny that you think most Jews are religious. This is not the case. Tell
me, if you were to visit Israel do you think the Jews there would be more
religious than the ones here? The Jewish race is, by and large, secular these
days. I was never a religious Jew, and was never really Christian. Matter of
fact, i wasn't brought up under any particular religion. However, my heritage,
my nationality, has always been Jewish, like Italian or Polish. To the Jews
of the world, that is what jewish means, heritage, and a homeland, not so much
a religion.
Unfortunately, the Bible is a book. The Bible, despite certain titles, is not
holy. I do not believe it a sin to burn a bible, or to throw one away.
Neither do i believe the bible is necessarily correct in everything it states.
Early portions of the bible are mere legend (like the Flood, Creation, etc.).
To accept them as fact requires unreasoned faith, something even Christ would
criticise.
The ideas and principles presented within the bible aren't necessarily "holy"
either. I do not believe God "hates" homosexuals as one of the apostles
stated, and neither do i believe God wants women to remain silent in worship
services. I believe God's laws remain above our concepts of right and wrong.
The people (not God) who wrote the bible made many errors, and were limited to
the the technology and prejudices of their time (as we too are).
Test everything, and that's including the bible.

Msg # 775 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:12 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Translations
Resp To:714-SexualPrefs

The translation bit in regards to the bible has caused a LOT of problems. For
example, when Jesus said Peter was the rock upon which his church would be
founded, many translated it exactly like that - rock. However, the word he
used (in Aramaic) as translated into later Hebrew texts really was "stepping
stone." Not just any stepping stone, but the type that are used in small
brooks or streams.
Also, a lot of the numericle symbolism has been lost to ignorance. When Jesus
fed the crowds the numbers they used for each crowd had a meaning. One number
(i can't remember which, perhaps 12?) symbolized the tribes of Judah, and the
other (7) symbolized the Gentiles... Meaning, Jesus was preaching on the
wrong side of the track, regardless what some believe.

Msg # 776 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:15 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:We live...
Resp To:719-SexualPrefs

We live through our children in this wonderful "experiment in the material."
If you have no children, then your traits are lost to the darkness of ages
past. Imagine all the people that we don't remember merely because they
failed to reproduce...
Then we have Abraham!
But... Not to say reproduction is some sacred act. It isn't, its just a
moral act.

Msg # 777 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:17 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Private Mail...
Resp To:724-advice

Don't waste the airwaves with your private mail.
This subject concerns no one but yourselves.
Thanks again...

Msg # 778 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:19 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Economics
Resp To:726-Flying Frisbee

If you think about it, consolidating the bathroom facilities for both sexes
into one is very economical. Socially... That too will pass.

Msg # 779 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:26 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Japan/Cultures
Resp To:727-Mental Capacity

I based nothing on technological development. Re-read my message, nothing of
the sort is mentioned.
Japan is not a solid country free of problems. Japan is a stable nation, that
is very much threatened from the north (Soviets) and to the West (Chinese).
Economically, their nation is taking the same road we did in the 1960's, away
from a productive, economy (producing goods that are tradable) to one based
increasingly on the handling of monies (investment firms, blah-blah, blah). A
lot of the Japanese industry is moving overseas (remember that complaint in
the 1970's? Their young are becomming credit mongers, like ours.
Japan has done a great job of adapting to the cultural idol, America.
No culture is without mistakes and flaws. However, the power to adapt and
gleen from alien cultures what is good, while disgarding the fatal is an art
yet unlearned by any culture. Such an art is the true measure of a lasting,
universal culture. Which, in my opinion, will be this planet's greatest
assett in the future.

Msg # 780 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:28 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Isolation?
Resp To:728-Mental Capacity

I never spoke of isolating a particular gene pool. I spoke of refining the
gene pool, and eliminating detremental traits.

Msg # 781 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:30 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Ratios
Resp To:731-SexualPrefs

The highest ratio i've read og homosexuals is 1 out of every 10. The lowest
i've read by a reputable study is 1 in every 15.

Msg # 782 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:35 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Speakings
Resp To:736-SexualPrefs

Speaking is material, physical, and economic terms there is only one purpose
of mutual sexuality, and that's reproduction.
I'm not talking about emotions. That doesn't enter the picture here, that's
an entirely different conversation. By the way... I believe the Universe is
open.

Msg # 783 Mon Sep 18, 1989 11:45 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Ratios
Resp To:762-SexualPrefs

Over the summer i met this girl from Texas, who went to a small school. Her
graduting class had about 100 or so people in it. While on the Cape (we
rented a house for about a week, neat time!) we went down to P.Town to do some
shopping and see a show. She was incredibly surpirsed at all the homosexuals.
When i mentioned the ratio in her graduation class, as an example, she denied
it.
Its funny what culture will do to a person.

Msg # 784 Tue Sep 19, 1989 4:10 PM
From:ZEZHIAN-NW35
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:D & D-monic!
Resp To:760-advice

Greetings, all! The rabid Half-Orc has
returned from the land of Mundania!

Did I miss anything?

I really agree with Mensan about
people spewing off about their
"religious" beliefs; how if we DON'T
believe in a (or, rather, THE) God then
we'll all go to Hell in a handbasket.
Just once, I'd like to be shown
where Hell is mentioned in the Bible. I
can't seem to find it. (And I'm NOT
talking about the "Fires of Gehenna";
Gehenna was a city that was known for
burning their garbage (which created a
big stink, as it were, amongst their
neighbours)).

Ishkabibble!

Peace;
Z

Msg # 785 Tue Sep 19, 1989 6:52 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:An enlightened response..
Resp To:774-SexualPrefs

And so refreshingly rare in this
topic. Good to see this attitude once
in a while!
(You aren't gonna send me to Hell,
huh?)... :)

Msg # 786 Tue Sep 19, 1989 6:58 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Peter
Resp To:775-SexualPrefs

Yes, peter (Gr. Petra) was just
Simon's nickname. If it were truly
translated in vulgar context, it would
read; "Master, who am I?"."You are
Rocky...and upon this rock/stone I
will.."
A Psychologist I know related the
story of a theologian who attempted a
perfect translation of the Greek
scriptures. It grew into an obsession,
culminating in suicide when he realized
he was attempting a perfect translation
of an imperfect work.
Many fall into the trap of thinking
"Divinely Inspired" means the same
thing as "Divinely written".

Msg # 787 Tue Sep 19, 1989 7:06 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:ZEZHIAN-NW35
Subject:Hey,thanks!
Resp To:784-advice

,..and just as I was bracing for the
public lynching, too!
The Brimstone bit reserved for us
free-thinking people also stems from
the use of sulfur in a similar dump. It
was a handy way to disinfect things,
and SO2 is still used as a fumigant.
But I guess Hell/Sheol/Gehennah/The
Abyss/etc is supposed to STINK, too!
Well, if there is one, what of it? If I
wind up there, fine-many of my friends
are LAWYERS!! Ha Ha!

Msg # 788 Tue Sep 19, 1989 7:11 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:VIC RATTLEHEAD-NW47
Subject:Enjoying the MCI/ cmmds?
Resp To:772-???/

Really,those \ things slow it up too
much.

Msg # 789 Tue Sep 19, 1989 7:14 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Sorry if I misread you..
Resp To:773-SexualPrefs

No, I don't want to shortchange you on
that score! Guess I'll have to swallow
my Luciferian Pride and slow the screen
down when I go flying through the
messages. I bristle too easily at
absolutes in human nature- the more I
see of it the less I know about it! :)

Msg # 790 Tue Sep 19, 1989 7:24 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Unreasoning faith.
Resp To:774-SexualPrefs

At least as a Jew, albeit an
nonreligious one you were spared
certain scriptures from the new
testament! Check out the admonition
that to come unto the messiah one must
become as a child,e.g., wide-eyed
innocent faith. Further, the very last
line of Revelations has a very heavy
admonition about adding to or
subtracting to the Words.
The Pentateuch/Torah has not as
forceful a way of putting it.The crime
of Mesith, False prophesy, is, of
course, a no-no,and a pretty good way
of allowing the Romans to present their
case to the Jewish populace.
Pretty clever bit of political
psychology on their part. It worked;it
must have,or all these little plastic
crucifixes would never have been sold!

Msg # 791 Tue Sep 19, 1989 7:34 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Interesting Numerology!
Resp To:775-SexualPrefs

Yes, 12 is a "good" number. The
addition of Judas Iscariot has since
made "13" an unlucky number, though not
in all groups. Examine a dollar bill.
It is Loaded with Masonic arcana- the
13 teirs on the pyramid,etc,etc.
Seven has always been the mystic
number of completion, since the
doctrine of the seven days of creation,
and the implication of seven relating
to the Gentiles was presumptive
evidence of the fulfillment of the Law
and the prophesies.
As a counterpoint, consider the worst
possible Number, the number of
imperfection repeated three times for
the ultimate emphasis! "And the Beast
has a name and the number of the name,
for he who is wise, is Six Hundred
threescore and Six." Hmmm. Sounds like
someone was dabbling in the Caballah.
(Sorry, Kaballah- No C in that
alphabet!)(On second thought it could
be a Q....)

Msg # 792 Tue Sep 19, 1989 7:42 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Visitors to Ptown..
Resp To:783-SexualPrefs

We took our British friends there on
one of their visits. It was a riot
watching our female friend drooling
over these "GORGEOUS" guys and knowing
not a damned one of them would do her
the least favor of even LOOKING at her!
They were too busy checking out her
husband, while I teased him
unmercifully about how adept the Gays
were at spotting someone who had been
through the Public Boy's School system.
"I say, old fellow, it appears you are
in fact a well reared gentleman, wot?"
Well, they came from the country, not
from London, so as you say, it was
cultural.

Msg # 793 Tue Sep 19, 1989 11:07 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:holy roller
Resp To:759-SexualPrefs

by my best estimate. the holy one has
been on this role since oh about 1984.

i have been associated with this person
since 1985, until a violent split and a
serious conflict of intrests arose.

Msg # 794 Tue Sep 19, 1989 11:11 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:embassy
Resp To:761-advice

put it to you this way....

any damn board he is on takes on the
apearance of "the embassy of
knowledge".

i'm still waiting to meet kiane
darkwood.

ack!

shit... be ruined minas.. (cv), he
screwed me over. stupid petty syndetic
bullshit if ya' ask me. although, at
the time and age i was at, it did seem
like being on top of the world...heh..

i grew up. he didn't.

Msg # 795 Tue Sep 19, 1989 11:12 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:VIC RATTLEHEAD-NW47
Subject:hmmm
Resp To:767-Married...with Children

like do i know you vic? was it at a
lebanese terrorist confrence?

Msg # 796 Tue Sep 19, 1989 11:14 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:just when it was safe...
Resp To:778-Flying Frisbee

simply put by one who has no
tolerance..(heh..)

robert k. adams
shut the fuck up.

Msg # 797 Tue Sep 19, 1989 11:16 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:ack...:(
Resp To:780-Mental Capacity

satan's homeboyz
a new collective
bike gang.
comming to an embassy near u.

Msg # 798 Tue Sep 19, 1989 11:19 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:all i wanted was a pepsi
Resp To:782-SexualPrefs

fine and dandy robert;
if i were in a better mood i'd
probably waste some time asnwering your
petty effort to re-establish yourself
as a reputable fellow. however, i
really cannot see the sense in that.

in light of your miraculous
re-appearance... i also cannot justify
dealing with an intellectual fake.

my appologies.

Msg # 799 Tue Sep 19, 1989 11:21 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:k-y
Resp To:783-SexualPrefs

oh??? and i am supposed to believe you
didn't buy that large negro dildo???

heh.. yeah ok robert... and
homosexuality is genetic...

yup. another oscar winning preformace
of how r.k. adams can ruin a good time.

Msg # 800 Tue Sep 19, 1989 11:25 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:and you thought so...
Resp To:789-SexualPrefs

satan's homeboyz

more than just
a
drugged out

bunch of hippes

on

harley davidson's

we worship satan too. and we don't like
r.k. adams

Msg # 801 Wed Sep 20, 1989 8:21 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:WEll Yes...
Resp To:551-Flying Frisbee

I Guess ;) Is a bit below you. Still sarcasm dosn't Travel well.

Msg # 802 Wed Sep 20, 1989 8:37 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:...
Resp To:754-Mental Capacity

I Suppose I was lacking in motivation in high school but there were other
factors. Some Classes were HELL-HOLES with people I would rather shoot than sit
next to much less try and study near. I Do find I have forgotten much
of high school <Suppose it is some form of memory block> Can one learn in an
environment of hate and pain? Would one WANT to learn?

Msg # 803 Wed Sep 20, 1989 8:42 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Teachers.
Resp To:755-Mental Capacity

Gawd! Some are just on some form of power trip. Still wont forget my P.O.D
class... At the end of the year he examined our books and charged us $1 for
each mark that couldn't be erased my gripe was "Gee... Where is this money
going? Your pocket?" Did we have a choice? "No book no grade"

Msg # 804 Wed Sep 20, 1989 7:49 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Well,it can happen to anyone..
Resp To:793-SexualPrefs

,..but happily the reverse is also
true: I went through that trip along
time ago, and was cured of it, so there
is aleays the chance one can "Fall from
Grace" as did I.
Yes, there is a CURE! It is
disillusionment, getting hit in the
face with reality, and watching people
with the best alleged intentions
bashing each other and growing
disgusted.

Msg # 805 Wed Sep 20, 1989 7:56 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:What would one WANT to learn?
Resp To:802-Mental Capacity

Hate and pain, of course! That is what
September always triggers when I get
the courage up to remeber public
schools! I still curse myself for not
bringing in a gun. That kid who just
pulled the hostage caper was supposedly
in a "gifted" program- no wonder he
flipped. The teachers obviously had NO
idea what to do with him!

Msg # 806 Wed Sep 20, 1989 8:00 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Yeah, the dull ones always teach that!
Resp To:803-Mental Capacity

We all have our favourite memories of
one or more particular teacher. These
memories provide a lifetime of sadistic
fantasies. My particular bane was a
sadistic bastard. My favourite fantasy
is to carefully remove his arms and
legs, install stainless steel shafts
through his pelvis and shoulders, take
him for joy rides under my car, and
pimp him out to winos in the Trailways
bus terminal.

Msg # 807 Wed Sep 20, 1989 8:05 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Satan's homeboys?
Resp To:800-SexualPrefs

Hey, you RIDE??? If you worship Satan,
don't you think He'll get pissed off if
you don't capitalize His Name? Or is He
a good enough sport so He doesn't stand
on formality?
Always thought He was a proud fellow,
myself, but I geuss when you're #2, you
have to try harder!

Msg # 808 Thu Sep 21, 1989 5:07 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Not So Much Teachers With ME.
Resp To:805-Mental Capacity

It was more my peers... Felt like hurting many people... Still I gave up and
just got out of the place. Wouldnt it be great to go to a place to learn where
others are there for the same reason? Not because they HAVE to go but want to
go.

Msg # 809 Thu Sep 21, 1989 5:09 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Hmmm...
Resp To:807-SexualPrefs

Do you think D&D is corrupting the youth?

Msg # 810 Thu Sep 21, 1989 5:50 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ZEZHIAN-NW35
Subject:The Religious
Resp To:784-advice

You make the assumption that those that believe in God, or are interested in
the principles set forth by Jesus are of one make. This is not the case.

Some areas where "hell" is mentioned: Proverbs 15:11 Isa. 14:15 Proverbs
9:1
That's 9:18..

Personally, i don't believe in the classical hell.

Msg # 811 Thu Sep 21, 1989 1:09 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Perfect Works
Resp To:786-SexualPrefs

The theologian must have been pretty out of it to kill himself over the few
mistakes within the NT. I know of no perfect works. But, the NT has done a
pretty good job at preserving the oral tradition of the time.
It has also added a great deal that the oral christian culture at the time was
unable to express (through symbolism, for example).

Msg # 812 Thu Sep 21, 1989 1:14 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:The Kingdom
Resp To:790-SexualPrefs

He said that anyone willing to enter to the Kingdom must first become like a
child. I don't think this is saying that we must accept everything at face
value, without question or thinking about its purpose. To the contrary.
Jesus often asked that his disciples think for themselves, and rely on
themselves with their own inner strengths, but that he would merely show them
the way.
One cannot take a single verse, or even a single chapter out of context. The
entire revelation must be taken along with it. Granted, there are many
cultural biases within the bible that hold no, or little, truth for us. But,
for them, these were true and just for the time.
The lesson is merely that the principles of the Kingdom (love God witha ll
your heart, and do what you would to yourself to your fellow man) must be
applied relatively to the current environment.

Msg # 813 Thu Sep 21, 1989 6:40 PM
From:REBEKAH-NW12
To:VIC RATTLEHEAD-NW47
Subject:h
Resp To:767-Married...with Children

hi!!!!!!

Msg # 814 Thu Sep 21, 1989 6:45 PM
From:REBEKAH-NW12
To:All
Subject:argghhh

well i come back to find thathuman is still here...
well im still here - and lets bring network 23 back to what it used!to be like

all in favor say(yea!!!!)
oh btw hi frumpy - i wanna meet u an derec sometime !!!!!!!!!

ps.. someone leave me il
mail

Msg # 815 Fri Sep 22, 1989 2:16 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:All
Subject:Media/New Low.

What do YOU think about the new low's done by our great television service?
Yes I am talking about hour long advertisments in the form of a "TV" show. One
in question "Amazing discoveries" A "Show" that shows off GREAT NEW PRODUCTS
funny the one I saw the entire show was devoted to a painting device to top it
off they cut to an ad... <Funny it was an ad for the same product... the twits
even used footage from the show itself!> Do they HAVE to try and trick us? Can
they get away with this trash?!?!? I saw today they had a new product <Stain
remover like DIDI7 with a diffrent name... I am SURE it is the same company>
They even threw in a closet orginizer!!!! wow! Gee? Who is sponcering the show?
I would like them to flash PAID ADVERTISMENT Thoughout the hour... This isnt
the only one... Sad isnt it...

Msg # 816 Sat Sep 23, 1989 4:38 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Yeah-the peers!
Resp To:808-Mental Capacity

Thanks!! I HAD managed to forget
them,but get a lot of savage amusement
showing up at class reunions, now.
The Jocks are fat from their beer and
from sitting comatose watching The Big
Game, the Narcissistic prom queens are
living on welfare in a trailer park
with their 9 children, the dogs I used
to date have lost their puppy fat and
now are foxes.
Maybe I was wrong: maybe there IS a
God after all....

Msg # 817 Sat Sep 23, 1989 4:40 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:D+D corruption..
Resp To:809-SexualPrefs

It is not corrupting as opposed to
television. At least D+D players can
get creative with their imaginations,
something the lazy and indolent leave
to the TV scriptwriters!

Msg # 818 Sat Sep 23, 1989 4:48 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:The Perfect Work.
Resp To:811-SexualPrefs

Even theologians are not immune to
obsessive behaviuor; perhaps their
search for perfection is the root of
it?
The above is I suppose as cynical as
anything I have posted. To clarify, I
am cynical,but not rabid- UNTIL someone
presumes to have the Authority to
condemn me to Hell or whatever.
That's the Poison Pen trigger. I will
not of course dispute ANYTHING which
has been a help to anyone, including
Bhuddism,Wicca, or Christianity in any
of its hundreds of forms. It is when
the value system becomes perverted into
a means of judging others, plundering
others,and killing others that I feel a
Holy obligation to execrate and heap
the richly deserved scorn and ridicule
upon the practitioners, who are so
quick to forget,"Judge not, lest ye be
judged also.".

Msg # 819 Sat Sep 23, 1989 4:57 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:It's good the way YOU say it..
Resp To:812-SexualPrefs

The problem I explained in the
previous response I suppose comes down
to my disillusionment with precisely
the failing you mentioned in taking
things out of context.People have
always done so and always will,
conveniently ignoring the realities
surrounding the texts. Judea was in
armed revolt at the time uch was
written, for example, and as a basis
for teaching the practice of
peace,naturally this environment was
not the best. A contributing factor in
the crucifixion was that the messiah
did NOT become a guerilla leader as did
the Maccabees, but (It was felt by the
populace,)betrayed the people in
preaching peace when they wanted war.
Of course the people demanded " Give
us BarAbbas!".
There were many unsuccessful messiahs
who did not make the grade, but the
time was ripe for a new idea.

Msg # 820 Sat Sep 23, 1989 5:04 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Sad TV.
Resp To:815-Media/New Low.

What you are describing is symptomatic
of the reason those horrible tabloids
sell in supermarkets; it has just taken
a while for a new medium such as TV to
degenerate to the level of print media.
The literacy rate slides down with the
SAT scores. Clerks cannot make change
without the register, the reading age
of the Globe is 14, and the tabloids
have lotsa big pixturs so ya wont hafta
read much cuz it makes ur hed hert.
You should feel more privileged than
Gibbon- he wasn't actually on hand to
SEE the decline of Rome, but we can all
watch it happen in realtime!
Disgusting, isn't it.
SAY NO to TV!! It will make you
stupid and may actually be worse than
some drugs!

Msg # 821 Sat Sep 23, 1989 10:46 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Wow...
Resp To:816-Mental Capacity

Well I guess there IS somthing to look forward to... Sort of a payback for all
the hell... Neat.

Msg # 822 Sat Sep 23, 1989 10:49 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Well... D&D.
Resp To:817-SexualPrefs

Well According to the 700 club It is turning the youth into a band of Satin
worshipers... One person they interviewed went into detail on how his character
took over his life and he started to get into demon worship Etc.. Etc... And
then he saw the 700 club and his life turned around...

Msg # 823 Sat Sep 23, 1989 10:52 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Then Again.
Resp To:820-Media/New Low.

Then again alot of the people running those registers also dont speak english.

Msg # 824 Sun Sep 24, 1989 3:03 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Judging
Resp To:818-SexualPrefs

Well, i must say that when it comes to judging i see those that call
themselves "freethinkers" or possessing "alternate outlooks" just as
judgemental as the television preachers/screamers of this day and age. The
-liberated- scream that those "tele-evangilists" are doing so and so, and just
a bunch of thugs and cheats, while the -saved- shout about all the sins of
those "secular humanists." I see little difference between the two groups.
Centrism, the peaceful meadow!

Msg # 825 Sun Sep 24, 1989 3:08 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Tabloids
Resp To:820-Media/New Low.

Fortunately i have never been able to see one of these "shows" that are mere
commercials. But, when i hear people talking about them in awe of their
blatant stupidity i think "Ja, but they got you to watch it."
Then i remember the hairdresser's answer to my question why she buys the
Enquirer "cause its just so stupid its interesting to read sometimes!"
This reveals, to me at least, yet another ploy to catch the attention of
viewers, be they stupid or perceptive.

Msg # 826 Sun Sep 24, 1989 10:34 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:D+D humbug.
Resp To:822-SexualPrefs

A person can become obsessive about
anything if they are so inclined,
including D+D,
television,drugs,masturbation, and
religion. That someone equated a
fantasy game with Satanism shows a
fault in the individual, not the game.
For couple of Sears Roebuck looney
catalogues,read the Encyclopaedia of
Human Behaviour and the MMPI casebook
sometime. One individual HAD to count
everything he saw- fence pickets,cracks
in the sidewalk,etc.
I suppose one could call it Satanic,
but this IS the 20th century last time
I looked, and it's a little more
realistic to call it mental illness.
When a person becomes "saved" they
grasp at straws to explain from what
they were "saved" in order to justify
the progression of mental illness from
one form to a more socially acceptable
one.

Msg # 827 Sun Sep 24, 1989 10:36 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Then again,again..
Resp To:823-Media/New Low.

I doubt they have anything to say no
matter what language one uses, other
than the simplest simian grunts.

Msg # 828 Sun Sep 24, 1989 10:45 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Moderation in all things.
Resp To:824-SexualPrefs

Yes, there is actually little
difference between the extremist groups
at either end, and they sense this;
thatis why they so pathetically try to
prove there IS a difference. In their
hearts they know they are all on the
lunatic fringe,and know they are
standing on quicksand.
The cynical televangelists are to me
the quintessence of Capitolism- they
generate a huge cash flow from the
REALLY stupid to the moderately stupid.
The secular humanists try to prove
they are far more sophisticated than
the above and go into hysterics if
someone puts a Gideon Bible in their
motel room. I think it's humourous to
watch people really belive fervently
that they don't believe anything.(huh?)
My personal belief is that the jury is
still out and always will be: I'll find
out when I croak, anyway. I will
continue to question because I was
given a mind (or the knowledge of Good
and Evil, if you like Genesis) and to
not use it to understand is contempt
for the gift, the ultimate (to me)
blasphemy.

Msg # 829 Sun Sep 24, 1989 10:51 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Tabloid defenses.
Resp To:825-Media/New Low.

I also have heard that feeble
defense,"they are so stupid they're
funny"
Perhaps once: but to continue reading
them is the difference between studying
Biology and wading in a septic tank.
I tried to read one once. It disgusted
me so, I could NOT finish it. The
stories were not even creative, let
alone entertaining. I felt befouled
that the morons who wrote the garbage
were truly feeling(and it stretches the
imagination) that as a reader I was
even stupider than they! An
entertaining version of Hell for
me,(one of many) would be forced to
perpetually take final exams on the
contents of these moronic ravings.

Msg # 830 Sun Sep 24, 1989 3:39 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Heh.. Oh come now
Resp To:807-SexualPrefs

I try not to bother myself with that.

You know, this could almost be a
passable twisted fury system.

None of what is going on makes sense,
and it is littered with Psuedo
Intellectualism.

What a drag on a Sunday afternoon.

Msg # 831 Sun Sep 24, 1989 3:44 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:REBEKAH-NW12
Subject:All for it.
Resp To:814-argghhh

Hey Robert, you believe in Jesus.

Why don't we re-enact the scene where
Christ has to carry his cross and he is
then hung up on the cross.

Ya.. you know the one I mean.

But instead, we'll use you!

Ack! I want my Network XXIII.

Human, (RK ADAMS) Or whomever you call
yourself these days.. You can see how
this one time all out and out bbs has
become a shaddow and pulpit for you and
anyone willing to listen to you.

I've got an idea. Go to Africa, be a
missionary, stop trying to save the
lives of America's socially unfit.

Msg # 832 Sun Sep 24, 1989 3:45 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Back!
Resp To:815-Media/New Low.

Bring back Blipverts!

Msg # 833 Sun Sep 24, 1989 3:48 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:700 club?
Resp To:822-SexualPrefs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I can't resist this
one...

was is beloved R.K.?

Repent ye Satan worshipers! Repent!
Burn your Ouija boards and AD&D manuals
lest ye forever Burn In Hell.

Oh yeah.. "remember to send in your
five dollars to ensure YOUR salvation."

Msg # 834 Sun Sep 24, 1989 3:51 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Problems
Resp To:824-SexualPrefs

Got a problem? Don't watch the 700
club, buy an AK-47. Chinese made
assault rifles, the prefered weapon of
the Soviet Infantry.

Take em out. Take em all.

Heh.. I've got a credo. Hell yeah, me.
I've got one.

Living by chance.
Loving by choice.
Killing for profession.

"Don't see any bible thumpers at my
house.."

Msg # 835 Sun Sep 24, 1989 3:53 PM
From:DECKAR-NW18
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Skinheads
Resp To:828-SexualPrefs

But what about the Skinheads???

p.s. Did everyone catch that "Ja",
trying to throw some German in there
eh? Heh heh.. You damn Aryan bastard
R.K. Adams.. heh..

Msg # 836 Mon Sep 25, 1989 2:40 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Funny...
Resp To:783-SexualPrefs

Hmmmm, yes, quite. Statistically
speaking, 10 out of her 100 classmates
should have been gay. This may very
well not have been, or since it was
such a small town, they chose not to
disclose their true sexual identities.
We all know that many people wait until
after high school to come out, and with
good reason.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 837 Mon Sep 25, 1989 2:45 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Six Hundred Threescore and Six
Resp To:791-SexualPrefs

Ronald Wilson Reagan...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 838 Mon Sep 25, 1989 2:49 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:British Riot
Resp To:792-SexualPrefs

Funny... I would have thought that
seeing as homosexuality is legal in
England (as long as it's done behind
locked doors, that is), that your
British friends wouldn't have been too
surprised. (But then you said they were
from the countryside, right?)

One of my female friends sometimes
says in jest, "I wish gay guys were
ugly; that way I'd know I wasn't
missing much!"

<Frumpy>

Msg # 839 Mon Sep 25, 1989 2:56 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Environment of hate and pain
Resp To:802-Mental Capacity

The only way I managed to learn was
to block out all that hate and pain.
Unfortunately, I also tended to block
out what few good qualities existed.
Only within these past two years have I
really been able to let down my shields
and try to talk to people instead of
assuming that every time they opened
their mouths, they would have something
degrading and nasty to say.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 840 Mon Sep 25, 1989 3:06 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Amusement
Resp To:816-Mental Capacity

Well, perhaps I wouldn't go THAT
far, Mensan, but at least it shows that
sometimes there IS justice in this
world! (You see, I do believe that
everything you do finally does catch up
with you.)

Case in point: a so-called friend of
mine (and several people on this board)
got a girlfriend and proceeded to dump
all his friends to practically devote
his life to be around her. Now I hear
that this girlfriend is going out with
his best friend. Now he's trying to
renew old friendships only to have the
doors slammed in his face. Call me
sadistic, but I find that highly
satisfying, especially as he knows that
he had some good friendships which he
threw away for nothing.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 841 Mon Sep 25, 1989 8:14 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Skinheads? Adams?
Resp To:835-SexualPrefs

Skinheads? Think they are just a
reaction to too much liberalism,
perhaps? Usually when a society gets
saturated with listening to the whining
of one side, a balance is hit when an
opposite group forms. Next time that
talk show host wants a nose job, he
should go to a doctor..
Hey what's with this Adams guy you
despise? Am I missing something funny?
any really bad Bible thumpers or
Ghost-Gulpers on here yet,but I'm
WAITING for someone to send me to heck
or whateverTF it is they do to people
nowadays.

Msg # 842 Mon Sep 25, 1989 8:20 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Passing through the Fire.
Resp To:836-SexualPrefs

Yeah, a lot of people wait till they
get out of High School to come out from
anywhere, and it's not just Gays,
either. The best survival skill in
school is to be invisible, or to pass a
s "normal" somehow, no matter what one
has to do to accomplish it. A person
who is shy adapts a class clown act, a
person who is gifted plays dumb,and a
person who is obese waits to escape
before getting their act together and
slimming down. Why waste any effort on
hundreds of creatures you will never
see again after 5 years, and who never
gave you any pleasure or acceptance,
but merely persecution, anyway?

Msg # 843 Mon Sep 25, 1989 8:26 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:The Beast..
Resp To:837-SexualPrefs

Yes, that's been pointed out, but I
really expected more destruction, after
the big public relations buildup in
Revelations. All in all a rather feeble
performance, if he WAS the Great Beast.
I'm disappointed.I thought we were all
booked for a nice juicy war, plagues,
famine, and strange portents in the
heavens.
All we got was a lousy dud of Haley's
comet!
Maybe they meant Nixon. He's still
alive somewhere.
Guess bedtime for Bonzo used up all
Ronnie's good lines!

Msg # 844 Mon Sep 25, 1989 8:35 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Well-reared Brit!
Resp To:838-SexualPrefs

Yes, he grew up in Dorset, a beautiful
county in the South, and was somewhat
sheltered from the urban sophistication
of London and the surrounng area-but I
don't really ever expect him to tell me
what went on in his school, anyway,and
I don't really care.I don't think he
was used that badly, because he didn't
sink in my swimming pool, so at LEAST
he was watertight!
Actually, in Victoria station a guy
tried to pick ME up, and he thought it
was hilarious and never forgot it- he
even wrote a filthy Limerick about the
forbidden delights offered me by the
fellow, who was as Gay as a tree full
of parrots. I really wonder if it's the
first time he encountered the life over
there: he was after all a bit of a
country bumkin.
Well, anyway, I think he was rather a
cheap bitch to tease me about it.
The slut!

Msg # 845 Mon Sep 25, 1989 8:45 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Threefold Return.
Resp To:840-Mental Capacity

There's a rather nice doctrine in
Wicca I always liked. Things do come
back- a good turn is repayed
manifold,often not by the recipient of
your favor. But if you wish a person
ill, and you don't know what you're
doing and screw up the curse, you get
to live with it three times over.
You can bet I have spared no effort in
my curses on the aforementioned teacher
to get them exactly right with
meticulous attention to detail,
lovingly lingering over the most
painful parts and projecting my fury
and wrath over the years and miles.
"I'll chase him round the Horn, and
through Perdition's gate..." to the
very throne of Satan if need be, but he
is damned for his treatment of an
innocent child. He is cursed as no
human since Caligula,Nero,and Hitler
has been damned, adjured, and vilified!
I want his soul so that even death
will not end his suffering.
(I don't LIKE him..........) ]:>

Msg # 846 Tue Sep 26, 1989 12:23 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Near Death Experiences
Resp To:828-SexualPrefs

Over the years i've always had a passing interest in near death experiences.
About a year ago or so all the informationms (articles, stories, people i've
talked to, etc) reached what can only be termed a criticle mass in my mind,
and i came to some really neat conclusions for my life, and experienced to
deep changes in my attitudes towards some things.
our comment about questioning striked a similair, related chord. Yes, i too,
believe it is important to question, and to do so without biases. Often these
biases lay hidden or sublime to our working conscious.
What do you think of such accounts (after life experiences)?

Msg # 847 Tue Sep 26, 1989 12:29 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Coming Out
Resp To:836-SexualPrefs

The 1:10 ratio has always held up in my experiences. Be it at work, or where
ever. As to coming out after high school.. Its a funny thing, but makes
sense seeing that most everyone at that age is trying to establish their
social sexuality.

Msg # 848 Tue Sep 26, 1989 12:33 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:So-Called Friend
Resp To:840-Mental Capacity

Guess who i saw at DENNY's last Friday? It was about, oh, 2-3am or so, and
there he was with a blonde. This was the DENNY's down in Fall River, near his
school.
Times change, and i don't think he even recognized me.

Msg # 849 Tue Sep 26, 1989 8:37 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Near-death experiences..
Resp To:846-SexualPrefs

Whenever there are a lot of consistant
reports in which there are similar
themes, one must consider them
seriuosly. The most usual of such
experiences contain accounts of
bilocation, the Light, and rapture.
Interestingly, those who have attempted
suicide relate a totally different
experience, and it is NOT nice!
Do these punitive experiences
originate is the suicide
taboo,religious injunctions against
suicide, or are they the origin of the
archetypal Hell? Or can it be even more
basic? I wonder where all the
archetypes originate, not just
near-death glimpses, but things which
are Truths to all cultures; are they in
the Intron sequences in the very genes?
You see, though I dabble in fringe
areas,my profession is that of a
researcher, and it drives me NUTS when
I find something which is apparantly
very real, but which I can't measure,
weigh, analyze and explain!
*sigh* Yes there is something to them
for sure-but it would be SO simpler if
there weren't!!!!

Msg # 850 Wed Sep 27, 1989 1:15 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Universal Truth
Resp To:849-SexualPrefs

Yes, i've also heard of those that committ suicide. And how they continuously
re-live the events leading up to the point at which they killed themselves,
including how their actions hurt and harmed other's lives. None of them said
they would be willing to try it again... I consider them fortunate.
Whether its inborn in our genes, and the mind is merely switching back to
point zero of experience, i don't buy any of it. There are some major flaws
in that argument, like the difference between self-induced near death
experiences, and those happening per chance, or through know outside forces
other than the self.
There is an excellent, objective study about all of this, that i recently
found. LIFE AFTER LIFE by a Dr. Moody. He also just finished REFLECTIONS ON
LIFE AFTER LIFE, that follows up and adresses a lot more questions and
theories
Give it a read!

Msg # 851 Wed Sep 27, 1989 6:47 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Life after Life..
Resp To:850-SexualPrefs

I have that book here-it's one of my
wife's and will checkit out: but I fear
after reading these, I usually have
more questions than before I read them!
Oh well, the pool is closed and it will
be a LONG winter, anyway, so Here
Goes!!

Msg # 852 Fri Sep 29, 1989 6:32 AM
From:REBEKAH-NW12
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:yay
Resp To:831-argghhh

Let's have a vote!!!!!!

Msg # 853 Fri Sep 29, 1989 6:43 AM
From:REBEKAH-NW12
To:All
Subject:umm

well i'm gonna do something i dont usually do .. that is disagree wit a sysop

I work for a major supermarket chain in brockton .. its been about 5 months
was promoted to a cashier .. well I know english and 2 foreign languages
there aren't any people in my work who dont speak english .. but usually its
the customer that messes us up ..they usually dont speak english and 10-1 know
nothing about our money ..
well im off to massasoit to go to scool
cheryl painter aka rebekah

Msg # 854 Sat Sep 30, 1989 1:52 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:REBEKAH-NW12
Subject:Huh?
Resp To:853-umm

So, let me get this straight...
You were promoted to a cashier at a major supermarket, atfter working there
for five months?
You speak a total of three languages?
And you are attending Massasoit Community College?
Hmmm... Where's the disagreement with the Sysop? I see no reply #.
Just want a little clarification.

Msg # 855 Sat Sep 30, 1989 7:29 AM
From:REBEKAH-NW12
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:huh?
Resp To:854-umm

no i spent two years bagging .. due to company mgt. at my store i could not get
prmoted ... and yes to both .. im disagreeing with derec about how most
cashiers dont know how to speak english and that they need the register or
theyd be lost . .. our cashiers learn our system

Msg # 856 Sat Sep 30, 1989 8:41 PM
From:SIR ORANGE-NW77
To:REBEKAH-NW12
Subject:Hablo Dinero
Resp To:855-umm

I think what Derec was referring
to was the limited brain mass required
to master the expertise of a top notch
cashier. Since these people don't
bother learning the national lanquage
(English) the only only jobs they can
get,is sadly, that of tendering a cash
register or......er..ah...bagging.
"Here eas your change Senora, and
tango muy grande pinga!"
Perhaps it's just the result of
our times, but there was a time when
respected WASPS could bag and afford a
home and raise children. When you could
fill a gas tank and expect a free set
of steak knives or a fireman's helmet
with a tiny loud-speaker. Alas...where
has this country slipped to in the
murky depths of economical/ethnic pit
of failure!
Ummm....HOW many years did it take
to achieve the pinicle of Cashier?
Alas....where has this board slipped to
in the..........

Msg # 857 Sun Oct 1, 1989 9:59 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:SIR ORANGE-NW77
Subject:Cashiers,etc.
Resp To:856-umm

I think the phenomenon we are
observing has much more to do with the
decline of certain skills rather than
any demographic or ethnic shifts.
(By the way,Sir O,^ many people speak
that language: I hope you are beseiged
with offers of marriage,etc.!)
We are seeing inumeracy in action. I
stopped at one of those convenience
store/gas stations, changed my mind in
the middle of a transaction, and the
cashier went into a total lockup-the
real thing! Fatal Runtime Error called
from $A000...(no doubt the top of his
stack..)
The customers were fidgety while he
struggled to add and subtract, and it
took SO long, the customers all
"helped" him. There is a genuine
problem in getting sharper proplr to
take these jobs. Would you enjoy
tolerating the crap we have all seen
customers dish out to cashiers? Of
course not! So who else is left to do
this thankless job? Other than students
working summers, a lot of these people
are standing there in a coma; If they
weren't running with a wire off when
they took the job, by the time the mob
gets through with them, there isn't a
lot left upstairs. I knew a
schoolteacher who had worked in the
Bronx before he burned out, and he had
that same look of despair and
resignation;he wanted someone to shoot
him and put him out of his misery!
20

Msg # 858 Sun Oct 1, 1989 12:29 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Not quite...
Resp To:825-Media/New Low.

I spent about 4 minutes... Determined that it was an insult and changed the
channel... Found more insults and found somthing better to do.... Still In
those 4 minutes I found enough to write some good sketches to produce...
It just makes me want the product less... Same goes for the enquirer... I have
read the headlines in the checkout and shake my head... It makes me sick that
they can get away with it... Are there laws against that???

Msg # 859 Sun Oct 1, 1989 12:35 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Gee...
Resp To:826-SexualPrefs

Funny didn't Jim Baker Claim that Satin made him do it... I bring up the
question after watching a report <Caught it halfway though> going on about the
connections... talking to a person that got obsessed with the game... he
started to have dreams about deamons Etc.. Etc... Then got into black magic...
Then they cut to Pat Roberston... I said to myself "Well that explains
everything" and hit off..

Now I have been into some good games of D&D before... And I never noticed the
connection with evil magic before... <Possibly I dont have that vivid of an
imagination I guess... One that can take over like that> I dunno... The game
to me looked like well a bunch of people sitting around rolling dice... And
having a fun time...

The guy goes after this game and not the satanic bible? How about reports about
that? It all seems lop sided to me.

Msg # 860 Sun Oct 1, 1989 12:39 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Grunts And Jobs.
Resp To:827-Media/New Low.

It makes me wonder how they could get a job without speaking english... Would
make it a problem to err... Say fill out a job application... Or Set up a
resume... Or even read the paper to find the jobs in the first place! It
supprised me to find a non english speaking teller the the local convience
store in bridgewater... I asked him if they had the OTHER local paper <South
look> and he didn't understand me... You would think a college student would
be working there <This is a college town> I guess I am suffering from cutlture
shock... Or brockton is creeping out here.

Msg # 861 Sun Oct 1, 1989 12:42 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Makes You Wonder.
Resp To:829-Media/New Low.

It Makes one wonder HOW they can print that stuff.

Msg # 862 Sun Oct 1, 1989 12:45 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:DECKAR-NW18
Subject:Five.
Resp To:833-SexualPrefs

It makes me wonder how long it will take for The home shopping network and
Tele-Evanglism:
"YES! this is the Crubic Zerconin Hat! Yes Look at it sparkle! It's only
$59.95! Just Buy it now and you will be SAVED! And get a great bargain at the
same time! Right <Sob> jim?"

Msg # 863 Sun Oct 1, 1989 12:51 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:EXACTLY!
Resp To:839-Mental Capacity

Wasn't fun in high school? Yes Remember not to talk to anybody new... You may
get emotionaly hurt... Wasnt it fun going to a place every day where you would
in some way get slandered... or even physicaly hurt... Myself, I gave up and
Ignored as much as I could handle.

Thank god There were some good people there.

Msg # 864 Sun Oct 1, 1989 12:53 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Wou would.
Resp To:840-Mental Capacity

One could understand not having time... But you would think he would have said
hi every so often... Oh Well...

Msg # 865 Sun Oct 1, 1989 12:59 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:After High School.
Resp To:842-SexualPrefs

Well There are only three people from high school that I am friends with <And
none of them were from my class> Strange Isn't it...

The total last straw was the yearbook... My Blurb was CUT WAY DOWN... I had it
so the first letters would spell out nuke the school... But some Bastard just
didnt bother to type all of mine in... <Guess they didnt like me> My class was
soooooo Petty... There are only two people I care to see from my class again

Msg # 866 Sun Oct 1, 1989 1:05 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:REBEKAH-NW12
Subject:THATS IT!
Resp To:853-umm

YOU DISAGREED WITH ME!!!!!!!! HOW DARE YOU! GET OUT! AND NEVER COME BACK!!!!!

<Why should you worry about that???? I am just running the thing... If I cut
users off for that I wouldnt have a system>

Yes... Try going to a 7/11 <Or do they just have a bad Rep>

Msg # 867 Sun Oct 1, 1989 4:38 PM
From:KILGORE TROUT-NW13
To:All
Subject:Tv shows.

What do you think of the new tv shows
this fall? I think tv has hit a new low
, even without a writers strike.

Msg # 868 Sun Oct 1, 1989 6:19 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:commentary: enquirer syndrome.
Resp To:858-Media/New Low.

The only applicable laws are the libel
statutes, and it is gratifying to see
some victims of this fighting back and
costing these type of publications some
serious money. Freedom of the press is
a Sacred Cow, and yellow journalism,
whether in print or broadcast,hides
behind the Constitution.
I think the tabloids should be sold on
a subscription basis only.Then we could
have a database, and the individuals
who read them could then be isolated on
Special Farms, be sterilized, and lose
the custody of their children on the
grounds of mental incompetence.
I seriously doubt any regular reader
of this crap will ever make any serious
contributions to the society at large.
Even if they are not mentally deficient
to begin with, they will be, sooner or
later.
These "people" are really a subspecies
of gorilla and should be mercifully put
down;after all, they ARE allowed to
drive cars!!! They COULD kill some
human being who is productive.

Msg # 869 Sun Oct 1, 1989 6:28 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Hysteria.
Resp To:859-SexualPrefs

The televangelist white trash you
mentioned really should be denied acces
to the media. They perverted and
cynically used the media to steal
millions from people marginally
stupider than they.
They are only capable of going after
harmless games. They are incapable of a
logical discussion of the Power of
Satan, or anything else besides the
next immediate cash appeal.
They are the reason people dig up
drains, and are completely beneath
contempt.
They display an animal cunning, but no
real intellect, and any of their
statements should be taken as the
ravings of a tertiary syphilytic idiot
and nothing more.
I would enjoy killing them. I
masturbate to the thought of seeing one
in the crosshairs of a scope, the
impact on the shoulder, the exploding
head.....
(I don't care for them very much...)

Msg # 870 Sun Oct 1, 1989 6:37 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:The Official Language.
Resp To:860-Media/New Low.

*sigh*Yes, I know what you mean; my
wife and I grew up in Bridgewater,and
attended BSC.
At work we have many people from other
countries. Those who inhabit areas
filled with their fellow countrymen
have no motivation whatever to bother
learning English. Strangely enough,I
have noticed people from countries with
languages bearing NO similarity to
English actually speaking yt quite
well. Examples are Cambodians,
Egyptians, and such places. Spanish and
Portuguese are both Romance languages,
use the same alphabet, and are
linguistically related. But we now
allow drivers' licenses to be issued to
people who cannot be bothered to learn
the language, and according to the
Cambridge piss-ants, we mustn't trample
on their "Right", as percieved by these
terminal masturbators.
I don't buy it at all.If I go to a
foriegn country, I bust my butt to
learn at LEAST a little of the
language-both for my own protection,
and to spare the inhabitants the "Ugly
American" image.

Msg # 871 Sun Oct 1, 1989 6:46 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Good people there(HS).
Resp To:863-Mental Capacity

Yes there were one or two good people
in High School, and it's just as well,
because Howe+French wouldn't sell me
the Uranium I needed to remedy the
school system.
I was in the first graduating class of
Bridgewater-Raynham. They had found a
fascist, sadistic monster to run the
place, who HONESTLY ran a reform school
before taking over as Fuhrer at BRRHS.
He died two years or so after I left
town, so unfortunately, he escaped a
little unfinished business I had with
him. I have been HEARTBROKEN about it.
I had a much more interesting death
planned for him than the one he used to
escape from me.
I hope he suffered. For a Long time.

(I'll see him in HELL. Then we'll
settle up.)

Msg # 872 Sun Oct 1, 1989 6:56 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Same here!
Resp To:865-SexualPrefs

Though it's been 20+ years, two of my
best friends go way back to H.S..
One of them I became friends with when
we were both suspended for a little
altercation. On the suspension we got
together under a truce, got drunk,and
have been friends ever since.
The other was a fellow nerd who shared
an interest and considerable expertise
in explosive ordnance. WE never
quarreled (!), and had many funny
misadventures testing our "devices".
Our four foot steel rockets reached
altitudes of over 6,000 feet.(We
counted the seconds after the warhead
exploded from the flash to the
report*1100 feet).The warhead was fused
to the end of the cast-loaded
propellant, and consisted of over a
pound of Magnesium/Potassium
Perchlorate.
Ahhhh innocent school days! People
didn't REALLY mess with us too much.
After all, they had to turn the
ignition key in their car sooner or
later, and a few "object
demonstrations" improved people's
manners substantially........
(I still have some interesting
photographs of what used to be a
Ford.There were no injuries).

Msg # 873 Sun Oct 1, 1989 6:59 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:KILGORE TROUT-NW13
Subject:TV
Resp To:867-Tv shows.

The only TV I observe is this monitor
and the ones at work, unless I throw a
"Pretty Lady" tape in the VCR, or shoot
the movies myself.
I think that speaks for itself.

Msg # 874 Mon Oct 2, 1989 1:19 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Survival
Resp To:842-SexualPrefs

Yes, I do see your point. I suppose
this means that all the smart, shy,
gay, obese high school students out
there have quite a challenge ahead, eh?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 875 Mon Oct 2, 1989 1:24 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Destruction
Resp To:843-SexualPrefs

Nice juicy war: take your pick. We've
got the Iran/Iraq conflict, the mess in
Lebanon, Afghanistan (the Soviet Viet
Nam), and conflicts in China

Plagues: the AIDS pandemic became quite
visible in the early 80's...

Famine: Ethiopia is still recovering...

Portents from the heavens: well, how
'bout the Challenger explosion, and all
those bits of planes that fall out of
the sky and crash into the outhouses of
unsuspecting farmers?

I think I've just about covered
everything...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 876 Mon Oct 2, 1989 1:26 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Tease
Resp To:844-SexualPrefs

So what are you waiting for??? Tell
us this ribald limerick!!!

<Frumpy>

P.S.: If you don't want to divulge it
in public, there's always E-mail...

Msg # 877 Mon Oct 2, 1989 5:49 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:DENNY's
Resp To:848-Mental Capacity

Um, sorry, but the significance of
this message is lost on me... Could you
explain in greater detail?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 878 Mon Oct 2, 1989 5:59 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Enquirer
Resp To:858-Media/New Low.

Oh come now Derec, the Enquirer
isn't nearly as bad as some of the
yellow press tabloids infesting our
supermarket checkouts. F'rinstance, the
Weekly World News is THE absolute nadir
of hack journalism, what with such
idiotic columnists as Dear Dotty and Ed
Anger, and such ongoing articles as
"B-52 Bomber Found on Moon!" (A few
months later, they reported how said
B-52 mysteriously disappeared from the
lunar surface...)
The Globe and The Examiner are two
other good examples, not quite as bad
as WWN, but close.

At least the Enquirer and the Star
deal only in gossip about celebrities,
not the location of alien bases.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 879 Mon Oct 2, 1989 6:05 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:A few good people
Resp To:863-Mental Capacity

Yes, those few people were safe
harbors in the otherwise turbulent
maelstrom that was high school... I
still loved the way you could learn so
much about yourself that you never knew
by listening to other peoples' reports
about you...

Looking back, I still find it hard
to believe that you and I met and
became friends simply because you
overheard me talking about Zork to one
of the librarians...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 880 Mon Oct 2, 1989 6:08 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Oh well...
Resp To:864-Mental Capacity

I dunno... I'm really just sick of
the whole business. If he ever came
crawling back to me, I think I'd treat
him in much the same manner that he
treated me...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 881 Mon Oct 2, 1989 6:10 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:7-11 bad rap
Resp To:866-umm

Whatever makes you say that 7-11's
have a bad rap, Derec???! Surely the
fact that they have separate lines for
hold-ups has nothing to do with it,
right??!!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 882 Mon Oct 2, 1989 6:13 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:KILGORE TROUT-NW13
Subject:TV Shows
Resp To:867-Tv shows.

I dunno, most of the shows I watch
are the old staples--Night Court,
Cheers, Golden Girls, Star Trek: the
Next Generation, Married...With
Children. The only new shows I somewhat
like are Chicken Soup and Nutt House,
both of which need work I think.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 883 Mon Oct 2, 1989 8:49 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Survival..
Resp To:874-SexualPrefs

No, I think we oddbls ,having already
been through Hell, come out of the
ordeal actually BETTER equipped to deal
with the real hostile world.
Consider the Most Likely To Succeed
Jock or the Prom Queen types. High
school was the ONLY good time they will
ever have in their lives. Nothing
prepared them for the true horror of
the real world. They were accepted and
worshipped. 10 years later, they were
nowhere, or at least very much worse
off, having divorced at least once,not
having the status any more, and never
knowing how to recapture it...
We have been through the fire.Tempered
like a fine sword, we know how to
survive because we had to do it every
single day. We expect the worst and are
always pleasantly surprised. It hurt
like Hell then, but that was the REAL
education!

Msg # 884 Mon Oct 2, 1989 8:52 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:I want more than that..
Resp To:875-SexualPrefs

How about a huge meteor! Descending
like Milton's Son of the Morning! Now
THAT would make the grade.
Woe to the Earth and to the sea,for
Satan is cast down among you and His
wrath is great.....

Msg # 885 Mon Oct 2, 1989 9:02 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Oh, alright!
Resp To:876-SexualPrefs

As you may know, I am a Francophobe
from treatment received from our
neighbors to the North, and from visits
to France, so thebastard wrote it in
French first to make it doubly
insulting!!
A' Victoria Jon recontre un mec,
Qui vent tui offrir du sexe
Mais un cas de frustration,
Jon pre'f'er masturbation
Car il n'aime pas l'amour a' la
Greque!

At Victoria Jon encounters a bloke
Who'd like to offer him a poke
But in times of frustration
Jon prefers masturbation
'cos he doesn't like being buggered
like a Greek catamite!

Now REALLY! If I were HALF the slut she
thought I was I'd send it to his
school,the Big Girl's Blouse!!
God Save The Queen!!!
Yeah, and Elizabeth II as well!

Msg # 886 Mon Oct 2, 1989 9:07 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:B-52 on moon.
Resp To:878-Media/New Low.

Jesus, Frumpy, you must be BORED out
of your mind! We'll observe you over
the months you read these and warn you
yf your responses start getting
extravagant..e.g. getting taken up and
s**ked silly by aliens!
Don't read them- they do BAD things to
your software!

Msg # 887 Tue Oct 3, 1989 12:48 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:well long time
Resp To:747-advice

Hi Frumpy.. I know it's been a while
but I've been very very busy! School is
going absolutely great.. I'm pulling
A7s in at least 2 classes so I think
I'll be able to make deans list! I have
to to be able to get into the other
school I want to go to. I think I'm
going to stay here and get my
associates in Math science and then
transfer out.. they have some really
neat courses that I want to take...
Talk to you later
TFM

Msg # 888 Tue Oct 3, 1989 12:56 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Dad
Resp To:755-Mental Capacity

I had some absolutely wonderful
teachers but I just hated the whole
experience.. I don't pick on too many
teachers.. agreed there ar% some that
shouldn't be teaching, but there are
others who are very dedicated.. My
dad's a teacher and has been for longer
than I've been in this world.. I7d say
that's dedication....
College is a blast... for the most
part a very different experience... you
don't HAVE to go and that's what'sso
great.. I haven't cut class yet and
don't think I will I'm having too much
fun and getting really good grades too.
Maybe it's just that I've matured eugh
to realize the real value of an
education...
Later
TFM

Msg # 889 Tue Oct 3, 1989 1:02 PM
From:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:sounds like
Resp To:756-Mental Capacity

Sounds like fun!!! I wish I had thought
of something like that, But that was
when I was still a 'NICE' person and
not the B***H I am now.. hey, it took
me YEARS to get this good!
Later
TFM

Msg # 890 Wed Oct 4, 1989 6:09 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Subject
Resp To:877-Mental Capacity

Cutter.

Msg # 891 Wed Oct 4, 1989 7:35 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Teachers,etc.
Resp To:888-Mental Capacity

The good ones are difficult to fnd..
ask your father to truthfully tell you
from what he fas seen, how many of his
co-workers REALLY should be in another
occupation. I have quite a few friends
who are teachers..(I CAN, now!), and
they feel alienated from the parents,
who consider them just a day care
centre,or feel the curricula are
unchallenging and waste of time. The
teachers all know the difference
between what they studied in HS and
what they are teaching now.
A teacher in the wrong occupation can
do immeasurable harm; certainly to a
similar degree as the rare dedicated
teacher can accomplish some good.
Ask him;I would be curiuos as to his
answer..

Msg # 892 Thu Oct 5, 1989 12:00 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:French limerick
Resp To:885-SexualPrefs

I almost didn't need the English
translation; I understood most of the
words...

I've said it before and I'll
probably say it again -- Don't knock it
'til you try it!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 893 Thu Oct 5, 1989 12:01 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:S**ked silly by aliens!
Resp To:886-Media/New Low.

I'm afraid it's too late for that,
Mensan; I was raised on a steady diet
of tabloids! Now that I think of it,
that DOES explain an awful lot about
myself...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 894 Thu Oct 5, 1989 12:04 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:FAIR MAIDEN-NW122
Subject:Glad to hear it!
Resp To:887-advice

So far my sophomore year is going
much better than my freshman year at
BSC. The classes are somewhat harder in
that there are more tests and quizzes,
but I am getting more involved in clubs
at school. I'm already in one and am
going to check out two more this
Tuesday...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 895 Thu Oct 5, 1989 12:09 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Oooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
Resp To:890-Mental Capacity

Veddy interesting... I actually got
a phone call from him about three weeks
ago myself!

Was this blonde the one and same
slut--er, DEAR girl--that we all know
and love?? (Please say no even though I
know he's still with her...)

<Frumpy>

Msg # 896 Fri Oct 6, 1989 6:46 AM
From:REBEKAH-NW12
To:SIR ORANGE-NW77
Subject:umm
Resp To:856-umm

I still think hes wrong maybe its true but not in all supermarkets
Due to company mgmt. i had to wait til 2 certain people left til i became a
cashier .. i was baggin for 2 yrs..and in may 89 i got promoted to cashier
so thats around 5 months..

Msg # 897 Fri Oct 6, 1989 6:57 AM
From:REBEKAH-NW12
To:All
Subject:I

I cant belelieve this - a monty phyton member dies on the 20th anniversary and
derek doesnt say a thing... gee at least laura and her friends sung the spam
song in honor - or am i on the wrong board???

Msg # 898 Fri Oct 6, 1989 9:14 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Faint of Heart!
Resp To:892-SexualPrefs

Naw, I won't knock something I don't
REALLY understand.-I mean really from
experience...
That Brit really knew how to score a
direct hit, though, didn't he!
Actually, if you were there to see the
creature yourself, you'd understand. He
was what is called in the vernacular, a
"Rhino"! Really, I doubt anyone of any
orientation could want him; it was a
bit like the old joke: What's the
difference between a fox and a dog?-
A six-pack! This fellow was not
exactly a hot item on anyone's market!
He is probably still there today,
offering his well-worn charms to an
indifferent public. We in the Boston
area,Gay AND straight, are accustomed
to seeing much more attractive
specimens.

Msg # 899 Fri Oct 6, 1989 9:16 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:ALIENS!!!
Resp To:893-Media/New Low.

Ha! Not unless you WERE abducted and
subjected to their ummm attentions.
What a GREAT book that would make,
though I'm not sure how well it would
sell; Maybe it would become a cult
classic!

Msg # 900 Fri Oct 6, 1989 9:31 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Blond??
Resp To:895-Mental Capacity

I'd hardly say that Xan was blonde. I would say she was a lot darker than
blonde in terms of hair coloure.
This blonde was very blonde, not the one and same.

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Msg # 1 Sun Jul 30, 1989 1:25 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:All
Subject:Going

Arrgh! I hate empty message bases. Don't you?

Not-Man

Msg # 2 Sun Jul 30, 1989 11:12 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Gone.
Resp To:1-Going

You To? Gets to me as well...

Ever wonder what it would be like if the world was soft?

Msg # 3 Sun Jul 30, 1989 10:04 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:It would be...
Resp To:2-Going

...like my head. And you wouldn't
be advised to tread on it as a
round-house kick to the solar plexus
offends..

What's the name of that British TV
sitcom on Channel 36[?] about these
people working in a department store
and one of them is gay... I think
it's a riot. The TV Guide doesn't
list that channel and I was just
wondering.. Hmm..

I WAS A-WONDERING A-WONDER-WONDERING
A-WANDER-WANDER-WANDER-WANDERING..
I'M A WONDERER..A-WONDER-WONDERER.
A-WONDER-WONDER-WONDER-WONDER...

Slaine, Gosh! That smells familiar!

Msg # 4 Sun Jul 30, 1989 10:52 PM
From:SPOCK-NW3
To:All
Subject:Soft

You mean like most of the users?
Ha ha ha,
Spock ,':-)

Msg # 5 Mon Jul 31, 1989 12:14 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:All
Subject:This Sub

What IS the point of this sub-board?

I've forgotten.

Why can't we just consolidate all the sub boards?

Diversification isn't working out too well, the other subs are always falling
behind sub #1. SOme people never even READ the other subs, except for 1!!

Why bother with 2, 3, and 4? I know we've debated over this before, but I
don't think this setup of sub-boards is working out... at all.

Msg # 6 Mon Jul 31, 1989 10:22 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Ever wonder...
Resp To:2-Going

Ever wonder what telecom would be like if just one more sysop learned the art
of backing up the system?

Msg # 7 Mon Jul 31, 1989 10:25 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:SubBoard Debate, AGAIN
Resp To:5-This Sub

Listen, we all know the first sub is ALWAYS going to be the most active. But,
there have been times, and OFTEN, when other subs have gained a certain mob of
its own calling, where discussions totally seperate from subboard one have
taken place.
Unified message bases passed away long ago in this area, and for good reason.
Let's not try to make the buggy work better than the jet, eh?

Msg # 8 Mon Jul 31, 1989 11:17 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:Are you being served.
Resp To:3-Going

The show is called are you being served....

That is such an old show... Interesting to see 70's style again isnt it?

Msg # 9 Mon Jul 31, 1989 11:21 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Blend,Whip And Stir.
Resp To:5-This Sub

Ok 1) I Don't Like the Idea.
2) De Slectible Topics Is
OUT OF THE QUESTION.
3) I LIKE it this way.
4) Seperate Conversations.
5) Slower Paces.
6) A Waste Of Time.
7) The RA command Does It
Already. Try it.
8) If It was done It Would
Slow the Message Base.
9) Infoquick Is Gone
This Is not a clone.

Msg # 10 Mon Jul 31, 1989 11:25 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Art?
Resp To:6-Going

Art Of??? ART?!!? Sigh Would you like
to be the New BACKUP Monitor? Download the message base once a week? And upload
it in the event of a problem?

It Should only take a few hours a week...

May I ask what is wrong with starting over?

Would you like to donate a supply of quad density disks to put the backups?

Would you like to find a program that likes the Sfd,Is Fast and can copy REL
files?

Would you like to donate a faster computer with a hard drive for a faster
system with just gobs of downloads?

Would You care to Re-Route All complaints to:

Account # NW205 - Complaints Dept.

Msg # 11 Mon Jul 31, 1989 11:28 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Buggy...
Resp To:7-This Sub

Ohhh Come on #59! Lets Strap two Jet Engines to this Go-Cart It would be fun to
rocket into that wall over there at speeds never encountered by such a
device... It would be fun to be blown to bits at a speed faster than sound...

If I am going faster than sound and I yell would I hear it?

Msg # 12 Mon Jul 31, 1989 7:02 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Subs
Resp To:7-This Sub

The current system doesn't seem to be working out.

It would work... if we worked at it.

But, why bother? It's easier having a central sub and talking about everything
on it. CONVIENCE!

Msg # 13 Mon Jul 31, 1989 7:06 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Sound
Resp To:11-This Sub

Yes, you will hear it. You damn well better because how come Jet fighters
flying at Mach 2 have radio conversations?

The reason why is when you speak, the sound accelerates along with the rate of
acceleration you're moving, so, if you're moving at 1,023 miles per hour, you
talk, the sound you just emitted is moving at a speed of sound PLUS 1,023 miles
per hour.

However, this is not the case with electromagnetic radiation.

Msg # 14 Tue Aug 1, 1989 3:47 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Purpose
Resp To:7-This Sub

I seem to vaguely remember that the
purpose of this sub was to hold
discussions on various and sundry
subjects, usually controversial ones
frowned upon by the ignorant masses.

Care to start up another one, RK?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 15 Tue Aug 1, 1989 3:50 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Sound
Resp To:13-This Sub

Well that sure is a relief to know.
I mean, otherwise how would all those
Concorde passengers be able to listen
to the in-flight movie???!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 16 Tue Aug 1, 1989 9:04 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Are You Being Served.
Resp To:8-Going

Could you tell me what timemes that
sht show is on?

I've seen it only a few times and
liked it a lot. What time is "Red
Dwarf" on?

Slaine, cowabunga.

Msg # 17 Wed Aug 2, 1989 12:37 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Convience?!?!?!?!?!?
Resp To:12-This Sub

For who? What you propose would take a bit more power and intrepreted basic...
plus! This IS working... This IS what I want... If you want centralized... Hit
RA... you will read new ALL new... It will be 1 subboard... No "<>" Needed...

Msg # 18 Wed Aug 2, 1989 12:38 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Oh Yes...
Resp To:12-This Sub

Please Explain what your IDEA of working out is.

Msg # 19 Wed Aug 2, 1989 12:39 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Oh...
Resp To:13-This Sub

Then the speed of sound Is not a standard... Gee sounds like relitivity to me.

Msg # 20 Wed Aug 2, 1989 12:41 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Err... No...
Resp To:14-This Sub

This Sub Was for disscussions about odd topics... Like The rabbit hole
effect... Or Chaos... but not REAL detailed...

Msg # 21 Wed Aug 2, 1989 12:43 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:AYBS
Resp To:16-Going

Thursday at 8:00 I think.

Red dwarf is on at 9:30 on friday... but it is on the 11'th episode...

Msg # 22 Wed Aug 2, 1989 11:45 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Subs
Resp To:18-This Sub

Sub1: 42 new
Sub2: 3 new
Sub3: 2 new
Sub4: None new.

I rest my case.

Msg # 23 Wed Aug 2, 1989 11:59 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Not Much Of
Resp To:22-This Sub

Not Much Of a Case...

Your Sampling Is Bad.

Yes 1 sub get more activity... There was a time when sub 2 had more activity
than 1 3 4...

We have 4 TV networks... NBC is more active... So lets kill off the other 3.

You are forgetting many thing.

1) I ****LIKE**** The other subs Even
IF they are not active as much
Somtimes I like to just go
to one of those.
2) IF we got rid of them we
would meld into 1 conversation
if we talk about flag burning
and it gets heated it will kill
other smaller conversations...
NOT SO if they are on sub 4.
3) If I go to the plan you claim
It would take some changes to the
program... it would take more
speed I can't spare SORRY!
4) Why are you so concerned about
ratings? That my job... I like
how it is... THIS is What I wanted
WHAT I WANTED... May I repeat that
WHAT I WANTED... I suppose this
is a dictatorship in that respect
5) 1 Suboard is restricting.
6) All Of the Above.

Thank you... But I am sticking with 4 general Subboards... With No Subops... So
Smeg off.

Msg # 24 Thu Aug 3, 1989 10:19 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Ah yes!
Resp To:20-This Sub

OH!!!! You're talking about things
B.R.K.A. (Before R.K. Adams)...

Ah yes... Isn't interesting to note
how things warp and change over time?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 25 Thu Aug 3, 1989 12:26 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Come off it!
Resp To:24-This Sub

Come off of it!!!

R.K. Adams is NOT the centre of the universe!

I am!!!!

Msg # 26 Thu Aug 3, 1989 12:36 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Smegging off.
Resp To:23-This Sub

Whatever smeg is, I don't like it.

Derec--whenever you're having an argument, you just simply don't tell a person
off. We're just having a rational debate. There is no need to stoop down and
tell someone off, simply because you are pissed off.

My sampling is bad? What is your basis for a correct sample?
These figures have remained more or less ACCURATE FOR THE PAST 3 MONTHS.
Sub 1 would have a 2 digit number new, while the others would remain an average
of 10 or LESS new. Mostly less. This has happened for the last 2 or 3 months.
MY SAMPLING IS BAD?

It's JUST an opinion Derec. This is a small system, so we think small. We
don't have hundreds of users to cater to. I agree--seperate subs offer
sanctuary from arguments held on other subs. But, then again, it's the people
that write the messages, so THEY let these things happen.

Daily report, day #2:

Sub1: 12 new.
Sub2: 3 new.
Sub3: 1 new.
Sub4: None new.

Wow, the numbers are dwindling.

Msg # 27 Thu Aug 3, 1989 1:56 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Flag Burning
Resp To:23-This Sub

Are you inferring, DEREC,, that you want to discuss flag burning.. I myself
feel it is wrong to allow it.. But I also feel a constitutional amendment is
going a bit to far.

Msg # 28 Thu Aug 3, 1989 1:59 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Smeg, Smegma..
Resp To:26-This Sub

You don't know what smegma is, Rog.. You don't get out with girls too often do
you?? Geesh.. Look it up in a slang dictionary or something it might be worth
your while..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 29 Thu Aug 3, 1989 9:25 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Flag Burning
Resp To:27-This Sub

If the US people have such a high degree of patriotism then flag burning should
do nothing to dampen this. The flag is a symbol, but when you come right down
to it, it is nothing more than a piece of red, white, and blue cloth. I feel
that flag burning is constitutional, right up there with freedom of expression.
What about the US communist party. Anti-US way of life, but it isn't
outlawed, is it??

Not-Man,

Msg # 30 Thu Aug 3, 1989 9:27 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Smeg
Resp To:28-This Sub

Haven't you heard the old quote "anchovy smegma???" This should give you an
idea of what it is.

Or, better yet, go ask a female. She'll gladly tell you.

Not-Man, Woman!!! Be my slave!

Msg # 31 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:02 AM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Black Flag.
Resp To:29-This Sub

I'm confused. We can burn the American
flag, but we can't hang Tip O'Neils
jockeys on Beacon Hill? WHAT GIVES??

One more question. Is it against
the law to burn the Russian flag?
I mean, gee, with perestroika and
all that jazz.

Slaine, yes I am kidding you twit.

Msg # 32 Fri Aug 4, 1989 9:42 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:The word
Resp To:28-This Sub

So, you're telling me, that they've never...

...circumsized you?

Msg # 33 Fri Aug 4, 1989 9:44 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Flags
Resp To:29-This Sub

Why bother to argue about the flags being burned?

There is a company that developed a spray that you spray on flags which makes
them fire resistant to 3000 degrees f.

Why have an Amendment or arguement about buring a flag that doesn't burn?

Msg # 34 Fri Aug 4, 1989 3:09 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Moral outrage
Resp To:29-This Sub

When synagogues and churches are desecrated people are up in arms, because
tgey represent certain idealogies.. For me it is the same with the flag.. Many
people have died to uphold this country and it's flag. And I feel it is wrong
for some jerk kid to burn a flag just because he can.. Even if he has a good
cause it still irks me. When people hold something in so much reverence that
they are willing to die for it (As long as they aren't mentally deranged) I
feel that that something should garner respect.

Solomon Kane

Msg # 35 Fri Aug 4, 1989 3:11 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:I know what it is..
Resp To:30-This Sub

I know what it is.. It's poor old Rog.. here who doesn't. hey.. Rog.. Better
be careful what female you ask you might get smacked if you asked the wrong
one..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 36 Fri Aug 4, 1989 3:14 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Huh?
Resp To:32-This Sub

Musta missed something there, Rog..

Msg # 37 Fri Aug 4, 1989 8:35 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:"Center of the Universe"
Resp To:25-This Sub

I know. There certainly are times
when you act it...

<Frumpy>

P.S.: <grin> :P

Msg # 38 Fri Aug 4, 1989 8:39 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Ratings
Resp To:26-This Sub

Rog, Rog, Rog... Since when are
ratings YOUR business? After all, this
is Derec's BBS...

As for your idea of melding all subs
into one, well, where shall I start?
You're the only one who wants it that
way, and by your own admission, you'll
be history as of August 25th, the time
by which everything would probably be
ready.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 39 Fri Aug 4, 1989 8:44 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Bush and the flag
Resp To:29-This Sub

Don't you just love the way that
Bush wraps himself up in a non-issue
like flag burning while at the same
time railing against abortion--which is
depriving a woman of her right to
choose? Not to mention all the money he
could be giving to labs for finding a
cure for AIDS, but no, our defense
budget is far more important than mere
human life...

Bush is a smeg-for-brains asswipe.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 40 Fri Aug 4, 1989 8:47 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Uncut
Resp To:32-This Sub

There's nothing wrong with being
uncircumcised, Rog. Sure, it requires a
bit more care than usual, but that's
all. Besides, I hear that being uncut
adds a whole new dimension to oral
sex...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 41 Fri Aug 4, 1989 8:52 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Outrage
Resp To:34-This Sub

I think you're missing the point,
Sol. Churches and synagogues are places
of worship. How many people do you know
that worship the flag? It's merely a
bunch of colored cloth sewn in a
pattern which we recognize as being the
American flag.

Also, how is it that it's OK to burn
the flag, but still illegal to remove
those tags from your mattress???

<Frumpy>

Msg # 42 Fri Aug 4, 1989 10:34 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:mattress
Resp To:41-This Sub

Once you buy a mattress feel free to remove the tags.. it is no longer illegal
once it is yours.. I think that if you ask veterans they've done the flag some
worship.. They've watched friends die for it, and many have bled for it.. I
dunno.. Maybe it's just me..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 43 Fri Aug 4, 1989 11:44 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Ah HAH!
Resp To:36-This Sub

You say that I don't know something?

Well, bud, it's the other way around!

You think females are the only ones that get it?

You haven't heard the complete definition of the word, haven't you?

:D

Msg # 44 Fri Aug 4, 1989 11:45 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Acting
Resp To:37-This Sub

Acting?

Who said I was acting?

Why should I be acting?

I AM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE!! WHY SHOULD I ACT IT?!?!

<grin>

Msg # 45 Fri Aug 4, 1989 11:49 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Ratings
Resp To:38-This Sub

Ratings? Well, something must be understood here, young fellow, ratings for
this BBS must look good. If the BBS looks good, I look good. If I look good,
everyone looks good. How's that? Don't take the previous paragraph too
seriously though. <grin>

You're right. We should get Mensan's advice and build a cattle prod, or
rather, a Derec prod and get some things done. <grin>

Actually, well, we should leave things the way they are. Why start everything
over again?

It was an interesting argument, needless to say.

Msg # 46 Fri Aug 4, 1989 11:51 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject: Mattresses
Resp To:41-This Sub

Imagine this--this is something I do not know:

Why is it illegal to rip tags of mattresses?

Msg # 47 Sat Aug 5, 1989 12:21 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Hey look it, bub..
Resp To:43-This Sub

Oh.. I don't know the complete definition, eh?? Beleive me. (This may sound a
bit strange..) While sitting in english class one day this year, a girl called
someone a SMEGMA.. Actually she always used the word since she didn't know what
it meant.. Of course my English Teacher overheard this. And the class
discussion soon centered on Smegma.. And it was unanimously decided that the
most common usage of the word refferred to the female side of the story.. But
it could also be used the other way. Of course after this conversation are
teacher bound us to secrecy to be sure her job would be secure.. But I am not
in school anymoreso I guess it is allright for me to mention it..

Solomon Kane..

Msg # 48 Mon Aug 7, 1989 9:56 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Legal mattresses
Resp To:42-This Sub

Oh, I didn't know that now you could
remove those silly tags from
mattresses, pillows, etc. without fear
of your local police force descending
upon you and hauling yer *** off to
court...

I'm not saying that people haven't
died for the flag in the past. It's a
symbol that generates tremendous
passions for many people. I just think
that the whole thing is a complete
non-issue considering the much more
important issues we have nowadays.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 49 Mon Aug 7, 1989 10:01 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Acting
Resp To:44-This Sub

Well if you call that acting, then
you're a complete and utter ham, Rogo.

Perhaps it's not too late...Get into
my time machine, go back to sometime in
the last half of 1970/early 1971...Find
the senior Mr. & Mrs. Snowl...Slip Mr.
Snowl Sr. a prophylactic...Bingo! All
our problems solved...

<grin>

<Frumpy>

Msg # 50 Wed Aug 11, 1989 7:52 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:All
Subject:Phreaking

So, is everyone out there FOR or AGAINST phreaking.

It has definite possibilities.

Not-Man

Msg # 51 Thu Aug 12, 1989 9:57 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Phreaking!!!
Resp To:50-Phreaking

It's not worth it!!

A few years ago, I knew quite a few people that were into doing phreaking using
illegally obtained card #'s with a "card finding program on the 64." As far as
I know, ALL of them have gotten caught. The FBI actually came to visit
them--in person. It wasn't a phone call--one of those SCARY visits. They
weren't convicted or anything because they were juveniles.

Phreaking sucks because you're ripping off another person's $$$ with their card
$$$, and you could ruin THEIR credit rating so YOU can get a few free programs.

Another thing I noted with the phreakers is that they changed, mentally. They
became UNBELIEVABLY arrogant--"Hah hah, you have 300 baud! The BBS I called
don't even ALLOW 300 baud calls!" (This was back then when 1200 baud was a
luxury, it cost me $200 to get a 1200 baud hayes comp. modem, and now it costs
$99 to geT 2400!!!) They were into stimulants so they could stay up all night
calling all over the place getting nifty stuff, called the NEWEST WAREZ! And
then they got into the boards that allowed access to people who had games taht
were only 2 days old (from date of cracking) and finally, some of them joined a
cracking crew. At last, they got caught, and all of them became full
fledged burnouts we all despise--destructive ones, that is. They weren't like
that before.

NO, I'm not for phreaking.

As long it isn't by imposing on other people.

Hardware phreaking, however... is another thing. IT's beating tHE system, what
we love to do all the time. But the risks are high, and the effects I
mentioned could happen to YOU. (OH, I won't let it happen...) You could
become addicted, one way or another.

Msg # 52 Thu Aug 12, 1989 7:26 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Phreaking...
Resp To:50-Phreaking

Pardon my total and utter ignorance,
but...

WHAT THE HELL IS PHREAKING ANYWAYS?!

<Frumpy>

Msg # 53 Thu Aug 12, 1989 11:37 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Phreaking
Resp To:52-Phreaking

Bluntly put:

Phreaking is the illegal use of the telephone network system to obtain free
calls anywhere in the world.

There are two major methods--

1) Getting other people's long distance card calling #'s. This is probalby the
most popular, since it's the easiest.

2) The riskier one, but probably better--the hardware method. Using a few
illegal boxes assembled with certain circuitries to give of certain codes
(those dial tone codes) and line voltage tamperage--to fool the phone. I have
a file that someone wrote on this BBS describing all sorts of the boxes that
are available, but not the circuit. For example, a black box, I believe, makes
your phone think like a pay phone--you don't pay, but the coins a simulated.
There's another that makes your phone a 1-800 number, free incoming
calls--however, the voltages are screwed up, it won't work properly with
modems, I heard, unless someone can clean it up with amps. But, tjhat's risky,
ma bell might get suspicious at a phone ringing for 30 minutes while you're in
the middle of the call.

Msg # 54 Sun Aug 13, 1989 4:08 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:OK
Resp To:53-Phreaking

Oh... Well, in that case, I don't
think there's that much in phreaking.
I know I wouldn't do it; too risky.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 55 Sun Aug 13, 1989 9:54 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Hmm
Resp To:53-Phreaking

I had the payphone tones.. Cool.. But I only used them once to call france..
Pretty intense considering I never pranked over seas before.. I didn't get in
trouble.. Of course it wasn't my phone..

Msg # 56 Sun Aug 13, 1989 10:55 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Bomb
Resp To:55-Phreaking

Why doesn't someone go out and mix 1 part gasoline and one part palmolive and
drop an ammonia pellet in and see what happens.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hope noones stupid enough to try it!!

Not-Man

Msg # 57 Sun Aug 13, 1989 9:05 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Bomb
Resp To:56-Phreaking

** BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! **

(cough, cough... gasp... GASP... cough... whew...)

Stupid 'nuff to try WHAT?

Msg # 58 Sun Aug 13, 1989 9:06 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Part
Resp To:56-Phreaking

When you say "1 part," what exactly do you mean by part? How do you define and
measure a part?

Msg # 59 Sun Aug 13, 1989 11:38 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Part
Resp To:58-Phreaking

I was hoping that you could tell me the same thing.

Not-Man

Msg # 60 Mon Aug 14, 1989 9:45 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Phreaking
Resp To:50-Phreaking

CONFESSIONS OF A REFORMED PHREAK.
Phreaking is not getting someone else's
card #- that's just dumb fraud.
Phreaking USED to be an art form.One
would dial an (800) number in the area
where you would want-a free call and
inject a 2.6 KHz signal just before the
phone rang. *hat would give you local
acces through there KTR Long Lines
network- the telco's microwave relay
system.THEN you would take your little
Blue Box and hit the local with the
tones. The long lines system has
different frequencies than the regular
touch tone pads, but that's what 555's
are for.
With the advent of satellite links and
fiber,all the old bootlegged Phreak
bibles, the xeroxed official Bell
system Long Lines Manual were made
obsolete,anyway. That was back in the
Hippie "Screw the Establishment" era.
A cruder method would be to use a Bell
Mute on the receiving phone-a 100 ohm
load resistor and a .05 cap from
ground,(yellow) to Line (Red) and talk
over the ring.Most disconcerting and
vulgar. If you're going to screw the
establishment, STYLE counts!!!

Msg # 61 Mon Aug 14, 1989 9:49 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Bush the brainless?
Resp To:39-This Sub

I don't know if he is a
"smeg-for-brains asswipe",as you so
elegantly put it, but as an ex head of
the CIA you can bet he's a snake. I
hope he's a good one..............

Msg # 62 Mon Aug 14, 1989 10:02 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Reply to moral outrage
Resp To:34-This Sub

I don't feel I am a patriotic
hysteric. However, to put flag-burning
in perspective notice the people who
systematically do it; The Iranians and
other people who despise this country!
I you want to burn the flag and put
yourself in the company of these
hysterical tertiary syphillis
cases,their worm-infested children, and
their thoroughly stinking women, go
ahead and light one up.
And buy a plane ticket to Beiruit
where you belong and don't go whining
for protection when they grab you.
OH GOD would I love the use of a silo
and two keys for an hour!

Msg # 63 Mon Aug 14, 1989 10:06 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Uncut O.S. Dimensions?
Resp To:40-This Sub

What are the new dimensions to uncut
O.S.? Does one sound like one of those
funny New Year's eve noisemakers?
Hmmmm. A polylabial BJ!

Msg # 64 Tue Aug 15, 1989 11:54 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Phreaks
Resp To:60-Phreaking

I have a file on all the descriptions of all the boxes, JUST descriptions, not
schematics. I'll freq it up here in a post soon.

The 555 timer chip was used in generating those pulses? Realy? Don't they
have a tone generator chip?

I used to hear stories of phreakers playing around with the satellites, like
turning them around 180degrees. Traces, hot lines, etc. I used to get a
couple of hardware phreaks. REAL hardware phreaks because when they were
playing around with the code, they turned on my printer and made a mess of the
printout. Whew. I got some weird names like "Gonzo Baretti" or some people
from upstate new york, or a BBS up in main, this was back then when NEC's where
a hot item, and 40 megs was immense storage, and people would drop jaws at
stories of 100 megs. But, now, 300 megs and above are commonplace.

Msg # 65 Tue Aug 15, 1989 11:57 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Uncut
Resp To:63-This Sub

Awfully blunt, aren't we? Shouldn't we be using euphemisisms to throw off the
FBI and the CIA and the police? :D

Let's wait until someone speaks from experience.

FRUMPY! Your turn! :D

Msg # 66 Tue Aug 15, 1989 12:03 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:All
Subject:Box descriptions

Phreaking can be done in a few ways.

The easiest way is to obtain a "lineman
test code". This is a phone number you
dial from your phone; wait for the
special tone; and enter the special
code. You would then hear another tone
and dial the number of your choice,
completely untraceable.

Another way is by using DTMF (Dial Tone
Multi Frequency) tones. You would find
an operator intercept number on the
local or often foreign switching trunk.
This is a "master type" number which
is used by operators to run the
network. You have to realize that the
network is run almost entirely byCcomputer or mechanical switches. By
using the tones used by an operator
such as the 2600hz, or the TASI locking
freq. you can actually become an
operator. This would allow you to use
the network as an operator using tones
created by a blue box. The blue box is
the same numbers and tones as on a
standard touch tone phone, and the KP
and ST frequencies. It also has the
TASI locking freq. which locks you into
the trunk line. The silver box is the
same numbers on the touch tone phone,
with the addition of A,B,C,D. Which are
used in most Military exchanges. A red
box makes the tones used by a pay
phone, quarter, nickle, and dime tones.
If you had a small tape recorder you
could record the tones and call from a
payphone for free. The green box is
used to create signaling tones,
Ringback etc..

The other boxes are, Black; this one
is a line watt reducer. This allows
your phone to be toll free to outside
calls. A white box, which is a deviced
built to allow remote generation of
tones, and a cheese box which will
turn your phone into a payphone.

The other and sometimes risky way, and
the way most folks get caught, is by
using stolen ATT/MCI credit card
numbers. When used as a "remote
operator" they are alright, but when
you dial from your own phone...you can
get seriously fucked.

Everything about the phone company is
run by DTMF tones. Learning to
manipulate them is what phreaking is
all about.

Contributed by Deckar

Msg # 67 Tue Aug 15, 1989 8:11 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Suckers of Society
Resp To:50-Phreaking

Phreaking serves no productive purpose to the economic community. Phreaking
does nothing to free previously hoarded resources, unknown knowledge or
information, or help promote a service [the phone corps] to greater serve the
consumer.
What phreaking does do is cause the communication networks of our economy to
spend much needed monies on developing ways of stopping future abuses by
adolescent and pre-pubscent social closet cases. What phreaking does do is
carve away at what usually is an already pretty competitive profit margin into
an artificially anorexic one. Phreaking is the abuse of a service that every
human sees as vital to the continuation of everything we and our ancestors
build.
Phreaking is largely comprised of those that seek immediate gratification, and
probably will continue to do so for the remainder of the material existence,m
all the while in total disregard the larger body of innocent victims . . . Us.
Similiar arguments have been thrusted from the entertainment establishment
[dwindling profits] towards "piracy." But, when facts are lined up against
their corp facts, "piracy" has done nothing to hurt the quality of
entertainment media.
Such can not be said for phreaking. Our communication networks have been
halted in their struggle for advancements because of such high loses exhibited
from phreaking. Only now are we, the consumers, seeing such advancements owed
to us in the mid 1970's (IE fiber optics), and all because of phreaking.
Purge them.

Msg # 68 Tue Aug 15, 1989 8:15 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:"Beat the system"
Resp To:51-Phreaking

I think those that take pleasure in "beating the system" have latent desires
to continuously beat something else.
Did it ever occur to anyone that the system exists because a large majority
find it beneficial??? The System, in this case, just happens to allow you,
and you, and the rest of you, to read this charcters. The System just so
happens will allow all of us to stand in the same room together while we're
thousands of miles apart...
Ja, that's some system. It's really fucking us over.

Msg # 69 Tue Aug 15, 1989 8:18 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Screwing around
Resp To:60-Phreaking

If you're going to screw the establishment, reason counts.

Msg # 70 Tue Aug 15, 1989 8:24 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Burnings
Resp To:62-This Sub

Burning the flag, be ye America or Iranian, doesn't necessarily mean the same
thing. Sex, having just as many forms and methods as one can find to burn a
flag, does not mean the same thing to everyone. Does that mean me and my
girlfriend are hooker and picker? I doubt it.
I reason otherwise. Case in point, the very individual with whom thise whole
conflict began was burning the flag not out of hate (as can be said for the
basic prole in Iran) but out of discontentment, disappointment. His meaning
behind burning the flag was to protest what he termed the "lie" that it
symbolized.
To judge two people in the same way merely because they act in accordance is a
shallow perspective. To take a line from a favorite movie and a few hundred
good books and authors, "you have to look with better eyes than that."
Truly, yes...

Msg # 71 Tue Aug 15, 1989 11:32 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:All
Subject:Lunar Eclipse

Some lunar eclipse.. Went to the beach and it was overcast.. Then I chased a
friend down the beach.. I was running top speed and hit that small band of
rocks between the water and the dry sand.. At first I didn't realize what was
happening.. Then it hit me.. HARD.. My feet don't have cuts but they are badly
bruised. YOUCH! I didn'T know I could say so many swears so fast and so loud..
The water was incredibly cold. No waves.. Strange.. Ouch..

Welcome back HUMAN.. What's wrong with beating the system.. I did it it at
school all the time.. At work.. It is so easy.. It is so fun.. That is what
make life so interesting. A personal victory over an old bulky behemoth called
modern society....

Solomon Kane.

Msg # 72 Tue Aug 15, 1989 11:50 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Beating the system
Resp To:71-Lunar Eclipse

Beating the system is a good way to get back it for the injustices that it lays
on us each and every day.

Take for example the issue of my car and insurance co:
When I first went to the insurance company with my claim, they said it would be
7-10 days until the car was adjusted and I would know whether or not it would
be totaled. Well, it's been 25 days and NO ACTION!!!! My car is sitting in a
junkyard, and everytime I call the insurance co, they say, tomorrow, tomorrow.
They even have gone so far as to put me on hold for 20 minutes, then
disconnect. I am going to file a formal complaint against them, and stick it
to em!!

What I wouldn't give to have access to their computer system.

Not-Man

Msg # 73 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:42 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:I disagree
Resp To:67-Phreaking

Phreaking has NOT stopped the development of communcations. Rather, it has
helped to improve them. For one thing, fiber optics are far better than
today's lines. When fully implemented, we will have a fully working televideo
phones and have plenty of room left over for other things. Television has
improved--that's communications. Satellites. Etc. Telephones aren't the only
form of communication, you know.

Actually, phone service should be free. We could pay a little more tax to have
phone service to anywhere in the world, the ultimate connection.

Problem is, will the government will do it just as well as the commercial ones?

Msg # 74 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:44 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Actually
Resp To:68-Phreaking

It costs a fortune to retrieve data over long distances over a wire, a copper
wire. I realize it costs money to make and implement these things.

We are actually suffering from worse communications since the AT&T breakup.
Back then, communication was REALLY superb. Now, it's basically dog-eat-dog
competition for semi-trash services.

Msg # 75 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:46 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Lunar Eclipse
Resp To:71-Lunar Eclipse

Oh, SHIT! I forgot ALL about the eclipse.

No WONDER why it got so dark while I was trying to read outside.

I thought it was just a storm comin'.

Dammit. I missed it!

Msg # 76 Wed Aug 16, 1989 12:44 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Brant Rock
Resp To:71-Lunar Eclipse

Brant Rock is a bad place to go running in the dark. Should've been down at
Horseneck.
Revolt and opposition without reasoning is best left to two year olds, not
men.
,s

Msg # 77 Wed Aug 16, 1989 12:46 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Systems
Resp To:72-Lunar Eclipse

You are not screwing the system, but working through the system. If a system
has a means of restricting itself from abuses and misuse it is rarely an
unfair system.

Msg # 78 Wed Aug 16, 1989 12:51 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Free Services
Resp To:73-Phreaking

"We could pay a little more tac to have phone service to anywhere in the
world . . ."
If i'm not mistaken we already do have phone service anywhere in the world.
And, those places in the world where we have limited service (Sudan,
SubSaharan regions) the phone company is run by the governments, and have been
so since before World War II.
Just try placing a call to Egypt. State owned.
Or, how about the CCCP? Can't call Uzbekastan from here friend.
You say that phreaking has "NOT stopped the development of communications" but
has actually "helped to improve them." I'd like to see your reasoning behind
this.
If you'd like to see mine as to how it has REALLY hindered progress please
refer to my original message, again.

Msg # 79 Wed Aug 16, 1989 12:55 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Quality and Monopolies
Resp To:74-Phreaking

Since the break up of the AT&T monopoly the quality of service has not
decreased, but increased. Any long distance call you make from this area is
done through fiber optics. This was not the case before the break up of their
monopoly.
Also, the price of an average business, long distance call today is lower when
compared to prices before the break up, relative to inflation and the buying
power of the dollar.

Msg # 80 Wed Aug 16, 1989 2:38 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Phreaking
Resp To:78-Phreaking

Phreaking is a very negilible factor in communcations. If you took all the
communications combined, you'd find phreaking was a extremely small percentage
of it. But, it's still a thorn in the side to the phone networks. Saying that
development in communcations technology has stopped because of phreaking is
ridiculous. There are approximately 4 billion humans on this planet, and about
500,000 or less probably phreak. That's a very small number. What is to keep
the rest, about 3.9 billion from developing new techonology?

Msg # 81 Wed Aug 16, 1989 2:43 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Really?
Resp To:79-Phreaking

Has it REALLY improved? Come on, do you seriously think so?

I called Florida yesterday and the line was very noisy. I called California 2
years ago, and the line was noisy. If yesterday was Fiber Optic transmission,
I'm disappointed.

Tell me, what do YOU know about fiber optics? Fiber optics is a very expensive
system to implement and develop. It means replacing all those copper cables on
our telephone lines, and it'd STILL have a degree of inefficincy because of the
copper cables connecting our houses TO the fiber optic links. It'd have to be
a TOTAL fiber optic link, from the telephone to the other end. However, with a
copper/fiber optic link, the error rate is very low, but with a total fiber
optic link, the error rate is practically less than .5%.

What about local services? I've heard people complaining about how noisy their
lines were, and how noisy they weren't before the breakup?

When you drive prices down to retain the cutting edge in competition, it means
cutting a few corners as well.

Msg # 82 Thu Aug 18, 1989 2:55 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Cold-hearted snake
Resp To:61-This Sub

Merely expressing an opinion and
venting some steam at the same time, my
dear Mensan...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 83 Thu Aug 18, 1989 2:58 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Polylabia
Resp To:63-This Sub

Well, from what I've heard, oral
stimulation between the foreskin and
the glans penis is supposed to be
quite, um, titillating...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 84 Thu Aug 18, 1989 3:00 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:My turn?
Resp To:65-This Sub

I suppose all you voyeurs will be
wanting a demonstration next... :P <==8

<Frumpy>

Msg # 85 Thu Aug 18, 1989 5:49 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Stopping
Resp To:80-Phreaking

It has slowed the progress of communications in this country, the world leader
at this moment.
And anything that slows down something that benefits the greater public for
personal whims and selfishness must be dealt a harsh blow. Why do you think
the FBI was so hot on it? It wasn't just the public on their back, or the
corps, it was the NSA

Msg # 86 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:10 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:What!
Resp To:84-This Sub

That is DISGUSTING!

I hope Human got that one!! I HOPE HE DOES!!

Msg # 87 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:11 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Correction
Resp To:84-This Sub

Correction! I found a typo in your message.

Instead of "<==8," it should have been "<8."

Har har!

Msg # 88 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:14 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:FBI?
Resp To:85-Phreaking

Why the FBI was so hot on it?

Very simple. It's rather obvious you don't understand the nature of our laws.

If you steal a code, and you call out of the state, you have committed a crime
that has reached out of the state. Therefore, by legality, the FBI is forced
to intervene, since they deal with interstate matters.

It's all a matter of legality.

If the system weren't so specific, the local police could have just handled it
as well.

Msg # 89 Fri Aug 19, 1989 9:40 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Good point..
Resp To:70-This Sub

Yes, if one thinks it through, you are
right-but is an-one willing to? Most
look at the superficial similarities in
actions and go no further. The media
then presents it with no
interpretation, and one will not get
the glassy-eyed couch potatoes to
reason it out for themselves. This
board is not a sample*of the general
population, and we are not equipped to
fathom their shallowness.The difference
between intelligence and stupidity is
that stupidity has no limits.
I should have qualified the
similarities in actions(flag-burning)
with the adjective "Perceived"...
(again!)

Msg # 90 Fri Aug 19, 1989 9:51 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Gov't phone service?
Resp To:73-Phreaking

Interesting proposal. I can at least
speak for the British system. The farce
of H.M. Postal Service running the
phone system really had to be
experienced to be appreciated. They
finally sold the whole antiquated mess
to the private sector, and it is now
being run by British Telecom.
This last trip, I somewhat missed the
hilarious experiences, because I was
actually able to complete calls to
adjacent towns, and did not have the
episodes of riotous laughter I had on
all my previous trips.
This time,forthe first time in 6 trips
to London, I found a pay phone which
actually worked, and an operator who
was helpful!!!!! Flabbergasting.All
those cute old red phone booths are for
sale, BTW, are we saw them in people's
gardens and other unlikely places.
Based on these visits, a goverment
running a phone company STILL gives me
fits of laughter.

Msg # 91 Fri Aug 19, 1989 9:58 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Phreaking in perspective
Resp To:80-Phreaking

OK-given phreaking is a theft of
services: All phreaks amount to a flea
annoying an elephant. Phreaks enjoy
teasing something huge and powerful.
Phreaks simply don't know enough
people to call to seriuosly affect
profits or system efficiency. It is
Wf*ust the old DavJW*OE*-m&*!*id and
(wow,the Telco must've been PO'd at
that sentence!^) Try again!
It's just the old David and Goliath
thing. A phreak isn't out to bankrupt
the phone co..It's just the idea of
teasing a huge monster and getting away
with it.

Msg # 92 Fri Aug 19, 1989 2:04 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Ok. Ok!
Resp To:90-Phreaking

Ok, bad idea! Scratch the gov't running the phones.

If the gov't does a bad job at everything, why is it running the space program
rather then the private industries?

Msg # 93 Fri Aug 19, 1989 2:05 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Phreaks, cont.
Resp To:91-Phreaking

What, in your opinion, is the worst case scenario of a full blown phreaking
job?

Msg # 94 Sat Aug 20, 1989 9:05 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Gov't running space ind.
Resp To:92-Phreaking

The private sector is entering the
space business, and already there are
several concerns that will orbit
anything you want. One reason is the
obsolescence of the old Hydrazine
fueled Minuteman missiles. They are
being sold at near-scrap prices to
private companies to orbit small
satellites. There is a new business
based on a hybid LOX/solid propellant
technology which is entering the field
as well.The military will always
dominate the industry since they are
not about to take a classified Launch
suveillance sateelite and have "Joe's
Rocket Company" launch it for them.

Msg # 95 Sat Aug 20, 1989 9:14 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:MOST AWFUL phreak job.
Resp To:93-Phreaking

The worst imagineable proposal I ever
heard was monsterous,and I hope it was
never done.Assembling an alarm clock
chip, a custom ROM, and a touch tone
generator,together with a bridge and
supply regulator, one can build a
little thing which when hardwired to a
person's or business' phone line
outside will phantom power itself
forever. It sits there and beginning at
1:00 AM, for example, until 6:00
AM,calls the Time and Temperature
number in Sydney, Australia, and holda
the line for 90 seconds,then calls
again. If it were done to a business
you didn't approve of, it could run up
a bill of $60,000, depending on when in
the billing cycle the episode
started.The nice thing about getting a
business is you could start the program
at 6:00 pm and let it run till 7:00 am.
Now, who was the fellow on here who
was mad at his insurance company???

Msg # 96 Sat Aug 20, 1989 9:58 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Space Industries
Resp To:94-Phreaking

I would like to work for the space industry some day. Research artificial
intelligence, control systems, environment control, etc.

What's the latest news on the planned mission to the Moon and Mars? I heard
some sort of a new engine was developed. Is this true?

Msg # 97 Sat Aug 20, 1989 10:01 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:That's CRUEL!
Resp To:95-Phreaking

It just calls the time and temp over and OVER just to run up the bills?

What do you mean by hardwired? Directly connected to the business lines?

Msg # 98 Tue Aug 23, 1989 8:53 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:New engine
Resp To:96-Phreaking

A number of new rocket engines are
under development. Those in the private
sector include a cute hybrid which is a
throttleable solid fuel rocket with a
LOX tank and a hollow
Thiokol(Polysulfide rubber) fuel
section. Turn on the LOX pumps, and it
starts, turn them off and it stops.
Everyone who saw the Challenger can
appreciate the fact that once an SRB of
conventional design is lit, NOTHING
stops it.That's why there are Range
Destruct Officers.

Msg # 99 Tue Aug 23, 1989 8:55 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Hardwired Phantompowered Phreaker
Resp To:97-Phreaking

It is connected directly to the 48
volt line- after all, if you REALLY
wanted to get someone, you would not
want to sneak back to change the
batteries every week!

Msg # 100 Sat Aug 27, 1989 4:14 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Flag Burning
Resp To:29-This Sub

In my opinion, any scumbag who can scrape off a living in the US, enjoy its
privilidges, and have no real complaints who burns the flag should be doused
with napalm and lit on fire in a public square,center of town, ect.

If you wanna burn the flag, go over to Iran or someplace. You don't like it
in the US, get out.

Thats my opion on flag burning.

Leadhead

Msg # 101 Sat Aug 27, 1989 4:22 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Phreaking
Resp To:50-Phreaking

Well in the discussion of Phreaking, I an nuetral. I wouldn"t do it (unless
the phone company or someone pissed me off). The main problem is doin it
without getting caught. I know one guy who used to phreak, until the FBI came
to his house one day. Luckily, he had gone to his grandparents house with his
Amiga, accross the counrty, for a six week vacation, and with no computer in
the house, the feds had no proof. Needless to say, his phreaking days are over.

Leadhead

Msg # 102 Sat Aug 27, 1989 4:30 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Phreaking
Resp To:64-Phreaking

I think it would be wild to be able to change the orbit of satalites. Take
control of a spy satalite, and use it to get porno-type pictures of people and
send them to newspapers or something. Or maybe crash two satalites into each
other, and see what happens.

Leadhead

Msg # 103 Sat Aug 27, 1989 11:49 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Facism, American Style
Resp To:100-This Sub

What, do you belong to a local Hitler Youth Brigade or Skinhead Clan? Where
do you get off telling people that if they burn the flag they might as well
move out of the USA?
That's pretty unamerican if you ask me, and very, very facist.

Msg # 104 Sat Aug 27, 1989 11:53 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Right/Wrong
Resp To:101-Phreaking

Gee, Sean, your mom and pop sure instilled a vibrant morality within you while
you were growing up. Imagine... "Something is only wrong when you get caught
in the act." That's my synopsis of your ideaology, correct me if i have
misinterpreted it.
So, if i kill your little sister and never get caught its OK?
I can rape three year old girls, just as long as i don't get caught?
And it would be OK to steal from AT&T (phreak) if there wasn't a chance of
getting caught?
Wow... What a universe you must live in!

Msg # 105 Sun Aug 28, 1989 8:24 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Wrong/Right
Resp To:104-Phreaking

Well at least Leadhead is HONEST about
it. The worst screwings I've ever taken
were from "Type 1 Bastards".These are
the people who come across as pillars
of morality,make pretty speeches about
it, then screw you.
I would rather do business with a Type
2" bastard who says right from the
start where his ethical base is-for
example, a car dealer. When you go *nto
a dealership, you KNOW very well they
intend to sell you the GT Racing stripe
package for $500. You know they are
going to bait and switch,and pressure
you to buy up. You know they are going
to screw you on the trade-in.They know
you are going to try to stick them with
a trade in which makes evil sounds when
it warms up.They know you think they
are the reason people dig up
drains.They are aware of their public
image, and everyone deling in the car
market is aware that all rules are
off,it's everyone for himself,and the
worst bastard wins.
The REALLY dangerous deals are when
you don't know the other's rules.

Msg # 106 Sun Aug 28, 1989 12:38 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Morality
Resp To:104-Phreaking

There is a BIG difference between rape and causing a couple minor difficulties
with the billing section of the phone company. I am afraid you picked the wrong
metaphor for the job. Please try again.

Leadhead

Msg # 107 Wed Aug 30, 1989 10:40 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Flag Burning
Resp To:103-This Sub

Hooray for you Human.

Msg # 108 Thu Sep 1, 1989 7:12 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Deja Vu-Flag Burning.
Resp To:107-This Sub

I recall a pretty hot exchange on the
topic back on sub 1. If you missed it,
regardless of your individual
sympathies on the subject, check it
out-it's back a ways, but very
entertaining!

Msg # 109 Thu Sep 1, 1989 9:12 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Admirations
Resp To:105-Phreaking

Admiring someone's honesty and contemplating their morals are two entirely
different things. To be sure... I question the honesty of someone who
advocates stealing or rape openly. Such attitudes are a sure sign their
honesty is easily abrogated for their own personal goals.

Msg # 110 Fri Sep 2, 1989 9:14 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Absolutes.
Resp To:109-Phreaking

There really aren't any absolutely
honest or absolutely dishonest
people.There aren't any absolutes in
human behaviour. I would always admire
the honesty before the morality because
in dealing with people from other
cultures and moral bases,I would prefer
to know where the person's values are.
The moral issues are not mine to
judge. I proceed with the assumption
the person is going to screw me, and
cautiously but politely employ
countermeasures.
"Respect the Stranger,but suspect him",
to sling a little Talmud around.
I deplore the idea,as do you, that"If
you c*n get away with it, then it's
right.",but so many people operate from
that base, we all must get used to it
and learn to protect ourselves. That is
why I earlier used the analogy of the
car dealer.

Msg # 111 Tue Sep 6, 1989 9:10 PM
From:MEPHISTOCLES-NW38
To:LEADHEAD-NW123
Subject:Umm..Phreaking?
Resp To:102-Phreaking

For starters...
As far as phreaking is concerned, FBI does not get involved in the issue...
Unless you are tampering with federal accounts/etc...
Now leadhead, Why don't you get your act together before you start responding
to something that you have no idea in hell whats going on.

Msg # 112 Wed Sep 7, 1989 8:11 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:MEPHISTOCLES-NW38
Subject:FBI/Phreaking?
Resp To:111-Phreaking

Really? I'm surprised! After all, they
supposedly waste their time over
copyright violations in interstate
commerce- to wit those stupid warnings
on VHS tapes. It probably depends on
whether the phreaking is an interstate
theft of services: That would likely
rile them up.
A sure way of getting them to show up
unannounced at supper time would be to
hack your way into Cheyanne Mountain.(
The SAC/NORAD complex). I'll bet they
would be incredibly pissed off.
Must have no sense of humour! Come to
think of it, they don't, because I was
visited by one at work, and while he
was in my office doing a BI on someone
I worked with in the past a woman went
berzerk at her boss, offered him some
interesting suggestions at 98 dB, and
stormed off the job. I thought it was a
riot, but he just sat there like a
curbstone.
No sense of humour!

Msg # 113 Thu Sep 8, 1989 3:16 PM
From:MEPHISTOCLES-NW38
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Ha!
Resp To:112-Phreaking

I came seriously close to getting busted one year (Thus, I've stopped phreaking
all together..) But I did get a call from the U.S. Secret Service, requesting
access to my Bbs' hard drives and file sections.... I immeditaly took the
system down.... (and formatted the drives off.., cause I did have MC cards,
phone cards, etc... ) Now, isn't the SS supposed to be guarding the president
(God! Wouldn't want to have Quayle for pres now..!) But Yes, they have no sense
of humor and they're all prudes! :)

Msg # 114 Mon Sep 12, 1989 8:25 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:MEPHISTOCLES-NW38
Subject:Sense of humor/creeps.
Resp To:113-Phreaking

Well, I have an *ahem* "Appointment"
with one next month regarding (oh shit
I can't say) ummm a security matter,
and I hope THIS one has a sense of
Humour!
I have a BAD feeling about this. The
cake with the file trick won't work.
Just my luck to get a 300 pound
cellmate with AIDS who thinks I'm
pretty!!

Msg # 115 Tue Sep 19, 1989 4:18 PM
From:ZEZHIAN-NW35
To:MENSAN-NW76
Subject:Yow.
Resp To:114-Phreaking

Good luck, Mensan...

You'll need it!

(This sounds like something that came
off THE CUTTING ROOM FLOOR!)

:)

Peace;
Z

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Msg # 21 Mon Jul 31, 1989 8:44 PM
From:MEGAYOPE-NW19
To:All
Subject:POols for iBm

Does any one have pool of radience (or any other of te d'n'd games) for Ibm
because i have played other versions of d'n'd games and from what I've heard ,
Pool blows them away.
Tanks,
<<Megayope
P.S. Call tge apogee II at 520-1100 It is awesome

Msg # 22 Mon Jul 31, 1989 9:32 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Graphics
Resp To:19-Tired

The graphics are ok, but I have seen better for the IBM. The quality of
animation sucks, since the characters jump around and don't move slowly.

The digitized sounds really sound good though, as far as IBM's go.

Not-Man

Msg # 23 Tue Aug 1, 1989 2:09 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:KALEEMA MAKALOOJA
Resp To:20-Tired

KALEEMA MAKALOOJA.. You guessed it.. He is doing pretty good.. I only see him
some weekends. Since he has a full time job..
When I get my amiga I would like to get together.. Sure. That is if I am not
in college the next day.

Solomon Kane..
Does battletech get better as you go along or is it always like that.. I am
definitely going to buy an Ultima.. Definitely.. Smokin.. Dragons LAir is
intense.. I wonder what it is like on a meg.

Msg # 24 Tue Aug 1, 1989 3:52 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:GREMLIN-NW108
Subject:Pool of Radiance
Resp To:7-Tired

A couple of my friends play Pool of
Radiance, but don't log on too often.
Why don't you try leaving E-mail to
either Nyemdla or The Joker?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 25 Tue Aug 1, 1989 3:55 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:POR
Resp To:11-Tired

Well, that's good to know. Tell me,
do you play the "real" thing as well?

<Frumpy>

Msg # 26 Tue Aug 1, 1989 5:30 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Amiga
Resp To:23-Tired

Exactly--when are you getting your Amiga? Can you give me a date? I'm leaving
for college on the 25th of August, 1989, A.D.

How do you know so much about these games that you mention? Like Battletech
and stuff? Does Kaleema have them??? I have quite a bit, but I'm still
looking for more, especially new, new stuff. I get bored with the older stuff
quickly.

Msg # 27 Tue Aug 1, 1989 9:07 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Barbarian
Resp To:10-Tired

Is that the game where two dudes
with swords beat the hell out of each
other?

I've got it.

Slaine, and I do mean, got it.

Msg # 28 Tue Aug 1, 1989 9:52 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Yup
Resp To:25-Tired

Yeah, I do play the 'real' thing as well. I usually play up at school, coz it
makes a great excuse to get a large group of strange people together for dome
fun and drinking. When you are drunk, the action gets a lot better, as well as
stranger.

Not Man, aka Slag the Stag

Msg # 29 Tue Aug 1, 1989 9:54 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:25th
Resp To:26-Tired

College in less than a month for you. I'M jealous!!!

I have to wait until the fourth of September to get back to the hell that is
college life.

I can't wait!!!!

Not-Man, will you still call the BBS Rog, I know I will

Msg # 30 Wed Aug 2, 1989 10:00 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:BBS
Resp To:29-Tired

BBS? From New York? You're KIDDING, right?

I don't think I will be calling while I'm up in New York. I don't think I will
call during vacations either, the computer will be up in N.Y., too.

So, you guys will probably see me again next May.

Msg # 31 Wed Aug 2, 1989 11:36 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:yep!
Resp To:26-Tired

Yes, Kaleema has them.. We are still trying to figure out populus. We even
have the docs.. Awesome game.. Virus is cool. He has lots a games..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 32 Wed Aug 2, 1989 11:39 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:ollege
Resp To:30-Tired

Sounds like a lot gets done on PARENTS day..

Msg # 33 Wed Aug 2, 1989 1:31 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Surely
Resp To:30-Tired

Surely you must have an extra COmputer lying around. When on Vacations, I rig
up the Trs-80 piece o' shit to handle all telecomming. Works ok, but it is a
bit slow.

Not-Man, not to mention the 25+ boards up at school

Msg # 34 Wed Aug 2, 1989 5:48 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Computer
Resp To:33-Tired

Oh, sure, we have an extra computer. My father has a C128. No modem, though.

Msg # 35 Wed Aug 2, 1989 5:51 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:All
Subject:Script

HALP!

I am using Workbench 1.3 and Kickstart 1.3 on my Amiga.

My problem is this:

I can write a simple script file using ED. I can execute that script file
using EXECUTE. What's my problem? From TWO sources that tell me, I can make
my script file into a direct executable code by setting the flags with the
PROTECT command. So, I do a PROTECT filename RWEDS. I try to run it
directly--it says "Not ojbect file." WHAT?!! The whole point of the command
was to MAKE it an object file! What's wrong??! Can ANYONE HELP?!!

Msg # 36 Wed Aug 2, 1989 11:43 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:All
Subject:Fusion (THE GAME!!!)

Help! (again)

I have a game for the Amiga named FUSION.

I have figured out how to open those "queer little bouncy doors." How do you
get through, even when they're "open?" I got through once, in a flash. I
found myself moving AROUND the playfield and could hop back into action any
time. WHAT IS THE POINT?? I see little pictures of floppies scattered around
the game. What are they for? How many disks is Fusion supposed to be? I have
1 floppy.

Msg # 37 Thu Aug 3, 1989 10:24 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:I believe it
Resp To:28-Tired

Yes, that's one of the things I've
heard that's good about the larger
schools: lots of people with similar
interests as you.
I play in a local group whose antics
get quite weird at times, but that's
mainly cuz our DM's played D&D since it
first came out (approx. 15 years ago)
and has kinda interpreted the rules his
way. (and what a way it is...)

<Frumpy>

Msg # 38 Thu Aug 3, 1989 12:29 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:All
Subject:A comment

I must say I am UTTERLY disappointed in this sub board. There have been
various people asking for some hints or advice from the users of this system.

Have we gotten any?

NOOOOOOO!!!

What IS wrong with you people? Is your brain having a day off?
Can't you help... at ALL?

Msg # 39 Thu Aug 3, 1989 1:27 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Brain Vacation
Resp To:38-A comment

My brain is on vacation until September 6, the first day of classes. I have
enough to worry about then, never mind now.

A word to the wise: Let yours take a break too, it most likely needs as well as
deserves one.

Not-Man

Msg # 40 Thu Aug 3, 1989 2:04 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Fusion..
Resp To:36-Fusion (THE GAME!!!)

I think Kaleema and I booted that up once.. just once.. Nope. Super Hang On..
Yes.. Intense.. It is so smooth.. Outrun has some intense music and sound on
it's title screen eh?? Anyone know how to get buy the flame thrower guy on
Running Man??

Solomon Kane..

Msg # 41 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:08 AM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Well...
Resp To:38-A comment

Some people are very content like
myself to ignore all pleas for help
and continue on our smug little ways,
thanks very much.

I never need help. I never ask for
it. Asking for help is a sign of
weakness. In the "real world" do
you expect your boss to come and
help you? NO! HE WANTS ANSWERS!
FIGURES! FACTS! But you want help.
Well, la-de-dah... At least you'll
find a friend in R.A. Pathetic
fascists.

Slaine, Call right now to recieve
our new Mohawk Master!

Msg # 42 Fri Aug 4, 1989 10:39 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:All
Subject:Hmmmm..

Twas.

garner. Garnish.. Donk.

Flibber. Ahhh.. Wasn't that emotional. So what shall we talk about.
Anarchism.. Racism... Federalism... Capitilism.. Or just any old -ism??

Ludwig Von Beetoven was my friend, to the end.. Yacckity Dacckity Doo!!

If I was a turtle.... I'd be a turtle in the morning.. I'd be a turtle in the
evening.. All over a pond..

Solomon Kane..
GAsp! It'S him again! Quick call the press, Call the Cops.. Call CARVEL!!!

Msg # 43 Fri Aug 4, 1989 11:53 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Err..
Resp To:42-Hmmmm..

Err...

You're not trying to mess up my sampling... are you?

Msg # 44 Sat Aug 5, 1989 12:25 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Twas Brillig
Resp To:43-Hmmmm..

twas brillig an the slithy tove s did gyre and gimblepin the wabe.
The red sox ate stockings..

Solomon Kane
Wampum!

Msg # 45 Wed Aug 11, 1989 7:51 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:All
Subject:Women

Is it just me or are women 49% sweetheart, 51% bitch??

I am sick and tired of shit from women and I have to take action soon.

I'm going insane.

Got money
Got Fame
Noting matters
when you're
Insane!

Not-Man

Msg # 46 Thu Aug 12, 1989 9:14 AM
From:FANTASIA-NW9
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:I don't think so!
Resp To:45-Women

All women Not-Man? Ha! What
makes you think that all women are 49%
sweet and 51% Bitch? Because We all
have our moments just like all men can
be complete idiots and insensitive
Bastards!!!!!!!!!!

*******FAN.*******

Msg # 47 Thu Aug 12, 1989 9:59 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Women
Resp To:45-Women

Girlfriend problems?

Msg # 48 Thu Aug 12, 1989 11:00 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:Nope
Resp To:46-Women

Well, I just don't appreciate it when for no apparent reason a woman can
suddenly be mad at you and hold this grudge for weeks, without you even knowing
the reason why. At least I would have told therm why I was mad.

WHY!!!!

Not-Man, 100% man

Msg # 49 Thu Aug 12, 1989 11:03 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Fixed now
Resp To:47-Women

All of my girlfriend problems are taken care of now, but all I know is that
this 124 mile distance between us is really putting a strain on the
relationship. Once school starts, everything will be fine and normal again,
but until then, I'm walking on a razor's edge.

Don't get involved with someone that lives over 50 miles from you, it's too
much like work.

Sometimes you have to have Dunkin Donuts' philosophy when traveling long
distances to visit girlfriends: Was it worth the trip??

Not-Man

Msg # 50 Sun Aug 13, 1989 9:08 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:All
Subject:Digitizing

I am currently building an audio sampler for my Amiga from chips and parts from
an electronics store with a schematic file that was given to me.

Is there anyone else here that's into electronics, like building things?

Msg # 51 Sun Aug 13, 1989 11:40 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Electronics
Resp To:50-Digitizing

I design and build speakers, if you count that. There is a lot more to it than
you may think.

Not-Man

Msg # 52 Tue Aug 15, 1989 8:32 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:Help from Mr.Boss
Resp To:41-A comment

A good manager, or boss, does help his employees, and doesn't just demand
answers, facts, or quick solutions. Him being the boss should mean he has
greater expertise and understanding of the environment at hand.
For him to stand back and let the lowers stumble about would defeat the
purpose... Actually getting the solution in the first place.
Just one more case in which the American mentality has lost hold of the
purpose of work. The work environment is not an experiment in S&M.
Its progress.

Msg # 53 Tue Aug 15, 1989 8:33 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:Human
Resp To:41-A comment

Such comments merely confirm my suspicions that you have yet to understand
what i have been saying all along.

Msg # 54 Tue Aug 15, 1989 8:36 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:Genetics
Resp To:46-Women

There is something wrong with most women. Case in point, why would a girl
tell her friend she's really turn on by you and would do anything to be banged
up by you at the drop of the flag, and then, when advances made, back off.
Hard to get? Agreed. But, just plain stupid and silly also? Yup.

Msg # 55 Tue Aug 15, 1989 10:48 PM
From:FANTASIA-NW9
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Hmmmmm...
Resp To:54-Women

Well you see, women say alot of
things they don't mean...stupid?...yes.
Women like to toy with men to get
them frustrated but yet some men don't
know that they are being toyed with
until that moment of "truth". We say
alot of things we don't mean but
sometimes there are men and there are
MEN!

Msg # 56 Tue Aug 15, 1989 11:53 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Agree completely
Resp To:54-Women

I agree with you on that completely.

Why would a woman say that she can't wait to be laid by you, and when you
finally end up doing so, tell you that she feels 'used,' even if you have been
seeing her for months and most definitely love her??

The wonders of women never cease to amaze me.

Not-Man

Msg # 57 Tue Aug 15, 1989 11:55 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:BS
Resp To:55-Women

Why don't women just cut through all of the BS and just get right to the point.

It seems to me that most guys don't toy with people's emotions and just say
what they mean and want. No bullshitting allowed.

Or at least that's the way that I am.

Not-Man

Msg # 58 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:50 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:#@$
Resp To:55-Women

Well, if you haven't realized...

There are women and then there are WOMEN!!

Women are just as equal to blame as the men are.

Msg # 59 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:52 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:What?
Resp To:57-Women

You really don't beat around the bush, do you?

Do you go up to a female and say "Wanna fuck? My dorm, 8:30 tonight?"
That's an example of no bullshit.

Or do you indulge in semi-bullshit?

Msg # 60 Wed Aug 16, 1989 3:23 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:No bullshit
Resp To:59-Women

I don't beat around the bush at all.
I'm not as vulgar as you may be, but by
my actions and words I convey the
meaning totally.

An example taken from real life.
All night I had been staring at her.
She was really hot and was, at times,
returning my stare. When she sat down,
I walked over to her and talked for
about 5 minutes and I suggested that
"We go back to my room and see what
happens."(a favorite line of mine) She
agreed, and the rest is history. AND
THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL INVOLVED IN THIS
INCIDENT.

I started seeing my girlfriend in
basically the same way, too. I just
went up to her and said "I like You and
I want to get to know you a little
better." Well, everything went great a
nd a good relationship came out of it.

Not-Man, be bold!!!

Msg # 61 Wed Aug 16, 1989 3:48 PM
From:FANTASIA-NW9
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:bs
Resp To:57-Women

A few of my friends are like that.
But this female says things like it is.
I say mytrue feelings. I like to get to
the point. I hate beating around the
bush but sometimes when a situation
prevents someone from saying something
it screws everything up for both
parties involved.

Msg # 62 Wed Aug 16, 1989 3:51 PM
From:FANTASIA-NW9
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:#@&%
Resp To:58-Women

Of course I realized that.

I never said anything about
equality.

Msg # 63 Wed Aug 16, 1989 6:11 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:No WAY!
Resp To:60-Women

Pleasee don't take me as a vulgar and brash persone I was just stating it
bluntlye rather than dilly-dally with words.

Of coursee I wouldn't do it THAT way. Maybee I'd use a few euphemisismse like
gfornicate.g Or gdo it.g Hmmi <grin>

I don't think I'd be THAT bold like the way you were (if you were telling the
truth!).

Nahe that can't be your line. gLet's go in my room and see what happensig And
they fall for thati What about your roomatei Does he wind up sleeping in the
loungei

Msg # 64 Wed Aug 16, 1989 6:25 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:All
Subject:Sampling

I would like to start a discussion on audio sampling for ANY type of computer.

I have just finished completing an audio sampler for my Amiga. It uses 2
7M3900 operational amplifier chipse an 8bit analog to digital converter ADC0809
chipe and a quad NAND gate chip for VOX circuitry. The rest of the circuit are
support parts. This digitizer is uniquee it allows me to control input volume
as well as centering. I threw in a few of my own mods like an OFF/ON switch
and a power led for convience. Plus a switchable jacke earphone or RCA phono
jack for mike-in and line-in. I found that a great place to get all these
parts was at Jabbour electronics up in Pawtuckete RI.

The sampler works great--when you have a good input cable. It makes a lot of
static at timese bute when I get a good input cablee it reproduces the original
faithfully. Not bad for a homebrewed job.

It is capable of sampling from 1999 sam/sec to 44e000 sam/sec. My amiga will
let me dedicate 1 megabyte of RAM to sampling. With a low sample ratee I can
reproduce a whole rock song decently.

Is there anyone here that would like to share sampling input and viewsi

It's a neat world. I would like to try building a video digitizer--but that's
loads more complex! Eek.
P.S. the total cost to build this sampler was about $30e and that has extra
parts--i.e. leftover chipse and resistors for future projects.

P.S.S. The sampler interfaces with the parallel port.

Msg # 65 Thu Aug 18, 1989 4:57 PM
From:FANTASIA-NW9
To:All
Subject:NO BS!

Okay guys...How do you feel when a
female says what's on her mindi and
when the female calls the shotsi Do you
think that the female is being pushy
and makes you not want to see her...or
do you prefer a quiet femalei How do
you feel when she makes the first
move... you know the aggressive type
and then the male backs off and says
wait a minute...etc.

Msg # 66 Thu Aug 18, 1989 5:55 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Roommates
Resp To:63-Women

Actuallye roommates pose no problem at all at times. Doing it seven feet away
from a sleeping person isn't bad at alle or disconcerning. Bute heye if you
mind urinating in a bathroom with other peoplee then i guess sex is out of the
question for youe ehi

Msg # 67 Thu Aug 18, 1989 5:57 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:Females
Resp To:65-NO BS!

DO i mind females saying what's on their mindsi
I've met only a few females capable of truthfully expressing what was on their
minds.

Msg # 68 Thu Aug 18, 1989 9:56 PM
From:FANTASIA-NW9
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Yahe but..
Resp To:67-NO BS!

But what about the female being the
agressive onei

Msg # 69 Thu Aug 18, 1989 11:16 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:It's true
Resp To:63-Women

Believe mee all of what I said is true.

Something comes over people when they
are away at school for the first timee
with no mom and dad and shit. My line
works perfectly welle and I was as
surprised as you are that it works.
It's a little more sane than saye gHey
let's go back to my room and practice
fucking on each otherg don't you thinki

As for my roommatee he should be so
lucky. We had a system. Whenever I
needed the room for awhile(or he did)
we would put a sign on the door that we
were gLifting weights.g Worked like a
charm.

Not-Man

Msg # 70 Thu Aug 18, 1989 11:19 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:j
Resp To:65-NO BS!

I would Rather have a pushy and
aggresive woman. Muche much more
exciting.

Not-Man

Msg # 71 Thu Aug 18, 1989 11:20 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:di
Resp To:66-Women

Exactly.

Not-Man

Msg # 72 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:17 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:Female
Resp To:65-NO BS!

If a friend asked me what was on my minde I would say so. It really depends on
how close that particular friend is.

Why should that be a pushy traiti Perhaps that friend is concerned.

I most defnitely do not want to associate with a female that is quiet. It gets
very dull.

Msg # 73 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:19 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Roomates
Resp To:66-Women

Please! Don't knock on my modesty factor. Blame it on my parents. My
lifestyle. OH MY GODe I'M A DEVIATE! KILL ME! I AM CAUSING THE HUMAN RACE TO
DEVELOP BACKWARDS!!

Get serious.

Besidese I think I will have TWO roomates. They triple the 1st year at RIT.

Msg # 74 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:22 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Oh!
Resp To:69-Women

What an insult! gLifting weights!g Welle I can think of the weights you HAVE
to lift... (leer)

Just for the heck of ite I'll try that line and see if anything happens.
Howevere if I get my face resoundingly red from a hard slape you realizee you
will be in verye verye verye verye verye very deep shit. <grin>

You're right. There is that gfreenessg factor that occurs when you're not with
your parents or other restricting factors. I've experienced it a few times.

Msg # 75 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:23 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:But!
Resp To:70-NO BS!

Bute not obnoxious! (like mee har har!)

Msg # 76 Fri Aug 19, 1989 11:41 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:Bold Women
Resp To:65-NO BS!

Bold women never bothered me. In fact some times it is more fun. But she can
not call all the shots all the time there MUST be some middle ground or the
relationship will fail miserably unless the male enjoys being dominated..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 77 Sat Aug 20, 1989 1:19 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Slaps
Resp To:74-Women

Heye it works for mee but then againe I usually just knock the women off of my
feet with my stunning looks and personality. llllshould be THEIR lll

Seriouslye develop your own. That one's mine!!

Not-Man

Doctor Computeriiiiii heehee

Msg # 78 Sat Aug 27, 1989 8:03 AM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Boldness
Resp To:76-NO BS!

I'm not sure how gbold and pushyg
would have worked out with my
personality.I rather suspect it would
have wound up in court.
The woman I married is intelligente
self-confidente and at times
flamboyant. That seems fine. But the
gpushyg bit...well we have been
together long enough to have seen
virtually everyone we know become
divorcede and in half the caseseit's
really been because the deal was not
50/50. If dragon Lady started to TELL
me what to doe rather than ask and
discuss ite I would still be onthis
boarde but from a different location,
and the reverse is true.
If I ever snapped my fingers,and
saidegHeyebitchegimme a beer!geI would
likely be halfway to a sex-change!
Likewisee if she said,"Hey asshole,mow
the lawn",sparks would most certainly
fly. It just won't work that way
between equals. And not living with an
equal doesn't seem to work out.I
wouldn't want it-I already have a dog
and two cats:My partner is not a "pet".

Msg # 79 Sun Sep 4, 1989 11:17 PM
From:LEADHEAD-NW123
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:script
Resp To:35-Script

Well I am not sure if this is why you can't do it (having never tried it
myself) but when you PROTECT a file with the E flag, it also protects it
against EXECUTING. Look in your AmigaDOS manual for help (You definately need
one for Amiga)

Leadhead

Msg # 80 Tue Sep 6, 1989 9:14 PM
From:MEPHISTOCLES-NW38
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Info!
Resp To:64-Sampling

When you do get the free timee pass the plans around, bud.. sounds intresting.

Msg # 81 Mon Sep 12, 1989 8:39 PM
From:MENSAN-NW76
To:FANTASIA-NW9
Subject:No BS!(Amen)
Resp To:65-NO BS!

I never back off from a direct
approach. I CAN'T. They are so rare and
such a delicious treat for a change. I
never initiate anything, ever.
I went to an innocent lunch last year
with a temp who was working at my
place. At lunch, she simply stated that
she was tremendously attracted to me,
and wondered what we should do about
it. My response was to get to a pay
phone and call work about the forgotten
dentist appointment. It happens so
rarely, that when it does, if I ever
turned down that honesty,(And well,
she was QUITE attractive....) I never
would have been able to look myself in
a mirror. I would have despised myself
for the rest of my life, had I missed
the experience.
She was recentlydivorved, had not been
in circulation, was low-risk,and
extremely enthusiastic.
*sigh* Please, once more!!!!

[End Of Messages]

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Msg # 1 Sun Jul 30, 1989 1:28 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:All
Subject:Hey!!!!

Whatever happened to the Games sub?!? I think that the granola sub should be a
more appropriate title, since games were never talked about at all on any of
the other subs.

Not-Man

Msg # 2 Sun Jul 30, 1989 11:16 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Granola.
Resp To:1-Hey!!!!

That and this place it full of nuts and flakes...

<Sorry about that... But you know what it is like coming up with a name 1 in
the morning in bed on the phone? With sombody else who is falling asleap as
well! Some of those names we came up with were not worth mentioning! Like
Obstupafaction City Part II The Revenge.>

Msg # 3 Sun Jul 30, 1989 1:40 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Granola Sport Bars..
Resp To:1-Hey!!!!

Anybody ever have those Granola Sport Trail Bars.. Talk about a taste bud
explosion.. I am definitely going to buy a granola tree. One that blossoms a
phosphorescent blue..

Solomon KAne
(Moving Beyond... )

Msg # 4 Sun Jul 30, 1989 7:44 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Granola
Resp To:2-Hey!!!!

Shucks!!! And here I thought we had
a sub-board totally dedicated to Lola
Granola...

Just think, only one more week left
of Bloom County... ;(

<Frumpy>

Msg # 5 Sun Jul 30, 1989 10:18 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Excuse me..
Resp To:3-Hey!!!!

Can someone define what "granola"
really is? Is it fruit or nut or
what?

Screaming Like A Naked Banshee,
Slaine

Msg # 6 Sun Jul 30, 1989 10:25 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Sad..
Resp To:4-Hey!!!!

Today they made Milos Meadow into
a highway.. Not even an overpass,
but a lonely strip of highway..
Right over the dandelions..

JESUS! POWER WOLVES COME STALKING
AT YOUR DOOR! HEAR THEM KNOCKING!
I CAN'T BELIEVE THE PRICE YOU PAY!

Did anyone else catch The Cult
and Metallica last Tuesday night?

I heard it was, to say the least,
a powerful show. Even The Globe
gave it a nice write-up. I already
saw Metallica in March when Queensryche
opened up for them.. Great show..
I wouldn't lie to you, now would I?

Oh yes! I forgot to mention that I
am currently learning how to play
tennis. I know all the rules and
crap like that, but never actually
played the game until today. My
serve needs work. Big work. The
backhand is shaping up nicely.. The
FORHAND! YOU SHOULD SEE THE NASTY
FOREHAND!! "THE KID" MAKES ANOTHER
FOREHAND SMASH THAT SENDS ANDRE
REELING!! ARGHH!! ANDRE SMOTHERS
A BALLBOY WITH HIS HAIR!! "THE
KID" SENDS THE CROWD INTO A FRENZY!!
WHAT EXCITEMENT!! MY NAME'S BUD COLLINS
AND I'M OD'ING ON STRAWBERRIES AND
CREAM!! ACK!!

Anyone want to play?

Slaine, I still need a racket.

Msg # 7 Sun Jul 30, 1989 10:50 PM
From:SPOCK-NW3
To:All
Subject:Name

I think for a place full on nuts anf flakes the name is a good one(after all I
was on the other end of the phone the other night).
Later,
Spock ,':-)

Msg # 8 Sun Jul 30, 1989 11:31 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:Le tennis??
Resp To:6-Hey!!!!

Metallica Tuesday night was definitely not as good as the last few times I've
seen them. I saw them on the Past 3 tours, including in March with
Queensryche. This was by far the worst show. Not that it wasn't good, but it
waas just missing something.

Tennis. I've been playing for about 8 years and am Pretty Good. 4 years
varsity(State Tourney once), but that was a year ago.

I'll play anytime.

Not-Man, In and out of love.

Msg # 9 Mon Jul 31, 1989 10:29 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Garfer
Resp To:1-Hey!!!!

Remember Garfer anyone???

Msg # 10 Mon Jul 31, 1989 10:33 AM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:BC
Resp To:6-Hey!!!!

I'm looking forward to the new Breathed comic strip.
Its time for a change, and its time Bloom County wither away and return to the
great comicsphere from which it emerged.
And, remember, one day, a new author will arrive with a far better comic strip
than anything Breathed or other have produced. But, number sixty and the rest
of you will all be too old and stuck in your narrow ways to notice or, care,
or even like it.
Generation syndrome, caught by the faddish.

Msg # 11 Mon Jul 31, 1989 11:32 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Well....
Resp To:9-Hey!!!!

Yes I Do... He has No Phone... Makes it difficult to subop... Or Call.

Msg # 12 Mon Jul 31, 1989 11:37 AM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:...
Resp To:10-Hey!!!!

I Am Looking forward to the new strip... but I am STILL Saddened by the passing
of bloom county... I will Get into somthing else But I hate to see the old
go... I realize it will turn into another garfield at this rate.. Nothing lasts
Etc.. Etc.. But Can one still be sad to see it leave for christ sake! Is that
so wrong? They will move on... So far I am hooked on calvin and hobbes... yes I
did get into somthing new... But It is diffrent... Not the same style of
humor... That I suppose only comes from the author... And the only way to get
the fix of that style is from the new comic... I just wish it wasnt JUST a
sunday... It won't be in the newpaper I get though.

Msg # 13 Mon Jul 31, 1989 3:55 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Stop accusing me wrongly!!
Resp To:10-Hey!!!!

I haven't talked about it.

It's number 5 you should be accusing, not me!!!

naM-toN

Msg # 14 Mon Jul 31, 1989 7:12 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Garfie
Resp To:9-Hey!!!!

Looks like he's out of a job on this BBS.

Not that we'll miss him or anything.

Msg # 15 Mon Jul 31, 1989 7:14 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Us?
Resp To:10-Hey!!!!

Us? Stuck in our NARROW ways, you say?

Why! You're worse than the rest of us!

Msg # 16 Mon Jul 31, 1989 7:17 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Bloomie
Resp To:12-Hey!!!!

I wonder when the last strip of BC is going to be out.

Will it have a new name? Opus County?

I liked it a lot, especially those big books that were published for it. But,
recently, it was kind of dry. Trite, even.

Like Derec, my current favorite is Calvin and Hobbes.

Just for the record, I feel that Robotman is a utterly stupid, inane, babbling
comic strip that should be deepsixed.

We get the Sunday Globe every Sunday (What OTHER day do they print it?) Will
it be in the Globe?

Msg # 17 Mon Jul 31, 1989 7:19 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Accusations
Resp To:13-Hey!!!!

I think Human has been traumatized, mentally. He cannot seem to comprehend the
fact that jobless people can get jobs. People can be whatever they choose to
be, including "narrow and stuck." Even worse, he's mixing up 2 simple
numerical numbers, 60 and 5. And one of them wasn't even supposed to be
mentioned!

What a world.

Msg # 18 Tue Aug 1, 1989 9:14 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Tennis
Resp To:8-Hey!!!!

Sure, I'll play you in tennis. I have
no serve whatsoever, and I'm using this
racket I got when I was a kid. Some
type of "Stan Smith" autographed thing.
It's not ever over sized or anything.

I DO HAVE A NASTY FOREHAND!! JUST LOOK
AT IT!! BOGGLES THE MIND, AYE???

Slaine, Mr. Forehand to you mister.

Msg # 19 Tue Aug 1, 1989 9:15 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Garfer
Resp To:9-Hey!!!!

YeahHe was almost as dorky as you.

HAHAH!! JUST KIDDING! SORRY!

Slaine, rubbing the wrong way

Msg # 20 Tue Aug 1, 1989 9:17 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:BS
Resp To:10-Hey!!!!

Well, there's always Calvin & Hobbes,
Robotman, and Fox Trot.

DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO KILL
THE AUTHORS OF "ZIPPY" AND
"SPIDERMAN"???? THOSE COMIC STRIPS
SUCK"!! SUCK!!1 SUCK!!!! BAD!! BAD!!
BAD!!

Slaine, I'm taking tomorrow off.

Msg # 21 Tue Aug 1, 1989 9:20 PM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Robotman
Resp To:16-Hey!!!!

You're just a prude. Robotman rules.
Kill Zippy and Spiderman. They are
REALLY stupid. WHEN WAS THE LAST
TIME ZIPPY MADE YOU LAUGH?? IT'S
SO BLEEDIN' IDIOTIC I JUST WANT
TO STRANGLE A MANATEE IN THE NUDE!
ARGH!

Slaine, not a salty water solution

Msg # 22 Wed Aug 2, 1989 12:47 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Dry????????????
Resp To:16-Hey!!!!

I am SO SICK to death of people throwing that phrase around...

DEFINE DRY HUMOR:

Msg # 23 Thu Aug 3, 1989 2:08 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:All
Subject:A new message..

Sub 4. A new message..
A lot of you musy watch mtv.. So I thought it would be interesting to discuss
new videos.. And of course the girls in those videos.. So what is your favorite
video, and what band has the best looking models or groupies or whatever they
are..

Solomon Kane..
(Hey, Rog, LOOK! A message on SUB 4.. This oughta mess up your data sampling..)

Msg # 24 Thu Aug 3, 1989 2:11 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:All
Subject:Woodstock..

Was woodstock really good.. I don't think I would of liked it.. 'Cept for
Joplin.. How about the new stones tour. Steel Wheels. Nahh. I don't jump for
them..
I just got the Psychedelic Furs tape TALK, TALK, TALK.. I should probably
listen to it. I like preety in pink.. Better not be the only good song onit..

Solomon Kane..

Msg # 25 Thu Aug 3, 1989 5:22 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Omigosh!
Resp To:23-A new message..

Omigawd!

You are right! I will have to reclassify my sampling type.
Instead of following the deaduselesssub scale, I should follow the exponential
scale!

What a discovery!

Msg # 26 Thu Aug 3, 1989 5:25 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:MTV
Resp To:23-A new message..

Most of the time, I can't stand to watch MTV. Too much crap.
That Kurt Loder and John Norris asshole-duo pisses me off with their MTV news.
WHO CARES? I'm getting sick of seeing specialized hours, like CLUB MTV hour,
YO, RAP SHIT hour, the HARD 30 countdown, then the top 10 (if they still do
it), and then a rockgroup only sundays, etc. Really stinks. TOo much
specialization.

Essientally, it's garbage, and I don't watch it anymore. I miss the old
videos--like Dave Lee Roth's California Girls <grin>.

Msg # 27 Thu Aug 3, 1989 9:32 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Videos
Resp To:23-A new message..

My favorite all time video on MTV is "Queen of the Reich" by Queensryche.

My current faves are "Toxic Waltz" by Exodus, "Fire in the Hole" by Laaz
Rockit, "Once bitten, twice shy" by Great White(Nice females, too) and (gasp!!!
a rap video) "Iron Man" by Sir Mix-a-lot.

I usually only watch the "Hard Sixty" and "Headbangers Ball" (infrequently) so
I don't see too much.

Not-Man

Msg # 28 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:14 AM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:One
Resp To:23-A new message..

My favorite video is "One" by
Metallica. I thoroughly enjoy the
part where Lars and Kirk through
Newsted through the pane-glass
studio window and he gets all
these real neat scars oall over his
nose.

Whoops! Methinks I was almost
in dreamland there.

Actually now that I think of it...
the last video I probably saw was..
was...hmmmmm...Express Yourself, by
Madonna. I liked it. She is too
inhibited though. Needs to loosen
up a bit. You know, grab herself
more often.

Slaine, GIRLS! DO YOU BELIEVE
IN LOVE?

Msg # 29 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:17 AM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Ya ever notice?
Resp To:24-Woodstock..

...theyvebeenplayingthatoldsong"SendMeA
nAngel"byRealLifealotlately.Ilikeitalot
andhopeyoudotoobecauseit'sgotafunkybeat
andIcanreallybugouttooit.PaulsBoutiqueb
ytheBeastlyBoyzisprettygoodtoo,Ilikeita
nyways.

Slaine, EGG MAN!

Msg # 30 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:20 AM
From:SLAINE-NW61
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:JulieBrown
Resp To:26-A new message..

IlikeJulieBrown.Thewhiteone.Shehasthemo
stperky[CENSORED!]I'veeverseen.Justmake
smefeellikereachingoutandgettingahandfu
lifyouknowhatImeanandIdoubtthatyoudo.

Slaine, LANDMINE! HAS TAKEN MY SIGHT!
TAKEN MY ARM!
TAKEN MY HEARING!

Msg # 31 Fri Aug 4, 1989 9:48 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:Oh yeah.
Resp To:29-Woodstock..

I saw that video by Real Life. I liked the girl that was supposed to play the
Angel.

Msg # 32 Fri Aug 4, 1989 9:50 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:Metallica
Resp To:30-A new message..

Metallica--a bunch of ugly mofo's with faces only a mother could barely love.

Msg # 33 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:16 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Dry
Resp To:22-Hey!!!!

There is a small province in the kalahari desert where it rains only one day
out of the year.. The land and it's inhabitants are parched.. It is no where
near highway 50.. That is what dry was then.. This is what dry is now..

Michelob Dry.

Msg # 34 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:25 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Rap sh*T
Resp To:26-A new message..

I don't find anything wrong with rap at all.. To me it is a genuine form of
music.. It also is beginning to transcend it's golda chain sucka M.C deal. It
is evolving into a complete:y different from using reggae and rock. It also has
a heavy R+B influence. Public Enemy, Shine Head, Ice T (too an extent), all
have strong messages in their music.. While a lot of the others are just good
dance music.. (Salt 'n' Pepa, Kid 'n' Play, Tone Loc, Young Mc, Stetsasonic
(both)...

As for specialization on MTV I like it. I hated having to wait around
and hope to catach a video I liked.. but now I know when the video will be on..

If you like the old videos, why don't you watch Classic MTV it has all the
good ones.. David Lee Roths California Girls is tame comparedto some of these
other groups..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 35 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:29 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Great White
Resp To:27-A new message..

How is LAAZ ROckit.
The great White video kicks.. Especially the females.. The song is awesome..
The 'Iron Man' video is allright.. I should tune into headbangers ball every
oponce in a while...
What is it with these new groups like BANG TANGO.. Are they trying to be like
guns and roses or is it my imagination?? Tora Tora looks lik it might have
some potential though, eh? The female in their 'Walkin Shoes' video definitely
has Cajun/New Orlean qualities.. Very nice..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 36 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:33 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:Hmm..
Resp To:28-A new message..

The metallica one video is cool. Makes me wan to see the movie it porttrays..
Don't remember the studio scene..
As for Madonna loosening up.. I don't know if they could show it on T.V..
Remember the only reason that got on was because of it'S proverb at the end..
The chains had a definite effect.. The video had definite ORWELIAN 1984
qualities..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 37 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:37 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:SLAINE-NW61
Subject:Acvch!
Resp To:29-Woodstock..

.
...theydothatalot(playoldvideos)Iliketheaerosmithangelvideo.youhavepaulsboutiqu
ebythebeasties?howdoesitcomparetotheirprevioustape??Idon'treallyliketheheyladie
svideothatmuchbellbottomsandpolyestertendtomakemesicktomystomach.Thesongiscool.
itseemstheyhaveanewimage.

Solomon Kane.

Msg # 38 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:53 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Metallifux
Resp To:32-A new message..

What do you mean by saying that they are ugly??? Who cares what they look
like, it is their music that is in question, not their looks.

Hey, what's wrong with long hair and an unshaven face....That's how I look, and
females just seem to love me to death.(self-righteous grin)

Not-Man

Msg # 39 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:56 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Rap
Resp To:34-A new message..

Rap is a cool form of music. I classify myself as a "metalhead" and I think
that rap is great to listen to. Especially Public Enemy.

Not-Man

Msg # 40 Fri Aug 4, 1989 12:59 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:I agreee
Resp To:35-A new message..

A lot of the new groups popping up these days are very much in the mold of
Guns-n-Roses. I hate the way that they all sound alike.

Tora Tora on the other hand Kicks!! I bought their tape a couple of weeks ago
and I can honestly say that it should be very popular in the next few months.

Laaz Rockit i svery much in the Metallica mold, although their music is much
different in the way that it is set up and performed. A standard thrash group,
though they are very good to listen to.

Not-Man

Msg # 41 Fri Aug 4, 1989 3:21 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:The word 'FEMALE'
Resp To:38-A new message..

Why is it using the word 'female' makes all messages look like they were
written by an army seargent?? Is it my imagination?? maybe it is just the
heat..

Msg # 42 Fri Aug 4, 1989 3:25 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Rap/Metal..
Resp To:39-A new message..

Isn't it odd that Rap/Metal are two of the most misunderstood music genres??
I don't exactly classify myself to any type of music since I listen to lots of
different stuff. Although I do own quite a fewrap tapes. As for metal the
closest I have to a metal tape other than testament is Van Halen.. Although I
may buy the Great White tape. (oh,, I have to megadeth tapes somewhere too..)

Solomon Kane
Don'T beleive the hype..

Msg # 43 Fri Aug 4, 1989 3:27 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Tora Tora
Resp To:40-A new message..

Does the tape seem to have Led Zepplin qualities to it? For some reason walkin
shoes reminds me of zepplin.. Could it be I am mistaken??

Solomon Kane.

Msg # 44 Fri Aug 4, 1989 9:02 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:All
Subject:Information

I just found out about Berke
Breathed's new comic strip--it's called
"Outland," and the surviving "Bloom
County" character is none other than
Ronald-Ann, the little black girl from
the wrong side of the tracks. Fear not,
Opus may be making some guest
appearances...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 45 Fri Aug 4, 1989 10:41 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:When!
Resp To:44-Information

When will 'OUTLAND' Be out!
And can we still read 'DILBERT'?????

Solomon Kane..
I'll miss Bill The Cat.. Ack!Pht!

Msg # 46 Sat Aug 5, 1989 12:02 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Anthrax
Resp To:38-A new message..

Well, now, it's time for the Rogodeter Snowl Talk Show. Today's guests:
The rock group Anthrax, and our long time regular, Mrs. Welshby, the english
teacher at the local high school.

Me: Well, it's time to begin the show. Mrs. Welshby, why don't you begin the
show with a question?

Welshby: Well, I do have in mind, a question for those, uh... young men sitting
over there.

Me: Sure, ask away.

Welshby: Well, young men, are you aware there is a thing called pronouncation?

Anthrax: P-p-p-prowhatchamacallit? Wha dat?

Welshby: Well, can you say "antisocial?"

Anthrax: YeahhHH, man! UNNNN SHEEE (pause) SOOOO SHUL!!! YEAHH!! WE KICK
ASS, MAN!! WOW!! WHOOO!

Me: Well, I'm afraid that ends the show. The Antrhax group used quite a bit
of time thinking of their responses to their questions.

Msg # 47 Sat Aug 5, 1989 12:04 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:What?
Resp To:42-A new message..

What? What should we call them?

Wimin? Broads? Chicks? Goils? Femmes?

Msg # 48 Sat Aug 5, 1989 12:06 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Outland
Resp To:44-Information

Damn you!

I was going to tell everyone about Outland! I couldn't wait to call here and
tell everyone what I knew. Geez!! :D

I guess it doesn't look so hot, so far. When I've seen Ronald-Ann in the
regular B.C., the strips weren't funny--they were rather serious--from a
viewpoint.

Supposedly, the new strip premieres September 3rd.

Hope my college paper has it.

Msg # 49 Sun Aug 6, 1989 7:59 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:femmes
Resp To:41-A new message..

Well, I use the word female because my girlfriend is a tad feminist, so I
really can't call her a girl(she's 21), but I feel funny calling her a woman,
so I call her female. This has carried over into my other life as well, so
bare with me.

Just think, 1 month from now I'll be relaxing in my dorm room with the year's
first homework assignment. AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!

Not-Man

Msg # 50 Sun Aug 6, 1989 8:01 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:TT
Resp To:43-A new message..

I'm listening to it right now and I can honestly say that it does have definite
LZ qualities to it.

Good band, great tape.

Not-Man, not so talkative today

Msg # 51 Sun Aug 6, 1989 8:03 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Anthrax
Resp To:46-A new message..

Anthrax was on the new Dr. Ruth show and their pronunciation was fine. Just as
good as mine or yours, that's for sure.

Don't meddle in things you don't understand.

Not-Man

Msg # 52 Sun Aug 6, 1989 11:15 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:I am...
Resp To:25-A new message..

I am going to repeat this!

DEFINE DRY HUMOR!

I am SICK And Tired of people saying

Oh... Monty Python Is Sooooo Dry.

Or... I hate the young ones They are Dry.

And they can't even tell me what they mean by dry.

By the Definition... It isn't dry humor. I don't think people are meaning the
same thing...

Msg # 53 Sun Aug 6, 1989 11:17 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Dry,
Resp To:33-Hey!!!!

I know what dry is... put stick that to humor and then tell me what it is...

Msg # 54 Mon Aug 7, 1989 10:06 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Outland
Resp To:45-Information

Outland will be out on the first
Sunday in September, appearing on
Sundays only.

Yes, you can still read Dilbert, if
you really wanted to, that is. God,
that replacement really stinks.=

<Frumpy>

Msg # 55 Mon Aug 7, 1989 6:31 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Why is it..
Resp To:49-A new message..

Why is it I am so tired and it is only 6:30pm?? Could it be due to the fact I
went swimming yesterday??

I may just closed my eyes and sleep,.. But if I do I will wake up at
2:00 am refreshed... I must tough it out.

Where is every one.. Today sub four had more replies than sub 1

Msg # 56 Mon Aug 7, 1989 6:33 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Look back...
Resp To:52-A new message..

I already gave yoo yhe definition....

Msg # 57 Mon Aug 7, 1989 6:35 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Hmm
Resp To:54-Information

Wait.. Didn't Roberta-Ann step into OUTLAND quite a while ago?????

Msg # 58 Mon Aug 7, 1989 10:07 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:All
Subject:Posts

This is really getting bad. No one is posting on the subs.

What's up,

To top it all off, the board is busy every time I call. Why don't these users
post??

Not-Man

Msg # 59 Mon Aug 7, 1989 11:41 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
Subject:Dry Humor
Resp To:52-A new message..

Ok.

Dry humor=not funny.

Msg # 60 Wed Aug 11, 1989 10:17 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Outland
Resp To:57-Information

Well, if you consider last week to
be quite a while ago, then yes. She
brought Opus with her to try and get
him to come along, but he had plans of
his own, and instead punted her into
the pocket paradise.

<Frumpy>

Msg # 61 Wed Aug 11, 1989 3:43 PM
From:SCRIPTO-NW92
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:stones
Resp To:24-Woodstock..

You picked a Psychadelic Furs tape over he Stones?! Your musical taste is in
your ass! Long live real music and the people who make it!!

Msg # 62 Wed Aug 11, 1989 7:49 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:All
Subject:Testament

I just picked up the new Testament tape "Practice what you preach" and it kicks
ass. I love it.

Why the sudden drop in BBS activity guys?? I only have 3 more weeks to be on,
Rog only has two, and a few others have just the same as me, 3. We gotta get
some action going here, sort of like a 'last hurrah' before school and
studying.

I really hate living with Mom and Dad. They are really starting to get to me
these days with all of their nagging. Can't wait till school starts and I can
get away from all of this shit.

4 weeks from now I will have homework!! Psych!!!

Not-Man, crazed deranged mentally insane.

Msg # 63 Thu Aug 12, 1989 10:03 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:College
Resp To:62-Testament

Mentally, I'm pysched up for college.

But, deep down,I'm defnitely scared shitless. I have absolutely no idea what
its going to be like. The food. What am I going to do? WIll my roomates be
assholes. Will all the girls be ugly? (EEK!) What? Where? When!

SHIT! I tell ya, it's nerve wracking. Can you allieviate some of the fears by
telling me more about college life?

MY parents don't really nag--when they do, it just rolls off my back.

TWO MORE WEEKS and counting down...

By the way--the drop in the BBS activity? Call it a slump. Write some new
ideas, everyone, and everything will take off again.

Msg # 64 Thu Aug 12, 1989 11:09 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:College Life
Resp To:63-Testament

I was also scared shitless last year at this time. It really isn't all that
bad, once you have had about a month to get used to it. After 2 semesters, you
never want to live at home again, since it seems as though everything your
parents say is meant in an angry way. I can't deal with them anymore.

I had a shitty roommate 1st semester, so I kicked him out of my room. My next
roommate was cool. My last roomate was my best friend at school, but we ended
up fighting a lot.

Having a girlfriend(the girls are NOT all ugly) up there is the best thing that
I could have ever done. When you are feeling like shit(failing an exam,
homesickness) it's great to be able to go to her and get a hug or something.
Of course, this also cramps my partying style, but as Sam Kinison says "She's
got the P***Y!!

You'll adjust fine. My biggest problem was with the classes. I never had
classes so difficult in my life and getting used to them took me about 2
months

Not-Man, Just call me Jay

Msg # 65 Thu Aug 12, 1989 1:20 PM
From:DEREC THE BLANK-NW1
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Dry Humor.
Resp To:59-A new message..

Then why not say you dont find it funny insted of saying "Ohhh That Sooo Dry"
And sounding stuck up... But in fact dry <In The Dictonary> means "Quitely
Ironic" So just say You Dont understand the humor.

Msg # 66 Thu Aug 12, 1989 7:32 PM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Fears
Resp To:63-Testament

Tell us what you wish to know, Rog,
and we'll try our best to fill you in.
Since I'm a commuter, perhaps others
like Not-Man can fill you in better,
but I'll give it a shot too...

<Frumpy>

Msg # 67 Thu Aug 12, 1989 11:39 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:O.k...
Resp To:66-Testament

What are the parties like?

What are the classes like?

What are the people up there like?

What about the upperclassmen?

What about (the most important) girls? Stuck up? Easy going? Pretty?

<grin>

Msg # 68 Fri Aug 13, 1989 1:31 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:CL
Resp To:67-Testament

Parties: Pretty wild and awesome. Everyone is looking to blow off steam, and
almost anything goes.

Classes: Very tough, make THS look like kindergarten. You get used to them
after about 1 month.

Upperclassmen: Most of them will help you out and are very friendly. Great to
get to know, because they are 21 and can buy. Some are assholes tho, so watch
out.

Girls: Most of them(honestly) are looking to get laid, no strings attached.
the first girl I met up there had me in the sack in 1 hr and I regret it to
this day. I never have seen her since Jan 1, 1989.

Not-Man
s

Msg # 69 Fri Aug 13, 1989 1:35 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Oops, almost forgot
Resp To:67-Testament

People: All of them are in the same boat, looking to meet new people. USE
THIS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE....!!!! They don't know you, so anything goes, you van
be anyone you want to be. They are all pretty nice, so You can get away with
most anything.

Myself, I'm dreading going back into the land of protests that is called UMASS.
Surely, Rog, U must have heard about all of the takeovers up there. I was
in the middle of one and was called a "babykiller" by an anti-engineer
protestor. Needless to say, I told him where to go.

Are we the only serious users of this board. I hope not!

Not-Man, depressed

Msg # 70 Fri Aug 13, 1989 1:36 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:All
Subject:q

/s

Msg # 71 Fri Aug 13, 1989 10:21 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Regret?
Resp To:68-Testament

Why do you regret it?

What is the environment like in the classes?

Msg # 72 Fri Aug 13, 1989 10:23 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:SErious
Resp To:69-Testament

Don't forgeT Mensan!

Yes, I heard about the "takeovers," but not too much.

WEre the engineers the target of controversy?

Msg # 73 Fri Aug 13, 1989 11:14 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Regrets
Resp To:71-Testament

I regret it because of the threat of that little virus that causes AIDS, and I
really don't need it right about now.

Besides, it wasn't even that good!!!

The environment of the classes your freshman year are mainly lecture halls and
things like that, so don't get TOO excited abou the prospect of engineering
just yet.

Just think, in two weeks you'll be there. ARE YOU PSYCHED!!!!!

naM-toN'

Msg # 74 Fri Aug 13, 1989 11:16 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Engineers
Resp To:72-Testament

The Engineers, specifically the ECE department, was at the center of the whole
mess because of some DOD funded research they were doing on a hurricane
tracking system. It has possible military applications, but then again, so
does everything else, and the protestors just don't seem to understand this.

Oh well, I guess I'll have to remain a 'Babykiller.' hehe

Not-Man

Msg # 75 Fri Aug 13, 1989 11:40 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Psyched.
Resp To:73-Testament

I certainly am pysched about meeting all these new people!

But I'm not too crazy about having to learn how to live...
Wonder if the food is good?

Hope so! RIT ranks #2 in food quality.

Msg # 76 Fri Aug 13, 1989 11:41 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:DOD Research
Resp To:74-Testament

You're right, everything that we possibly can imagine has some sort of a
military application. For example--the protestors themselves! What an irony.
Don't they know that the same demonstration techniques can cause a revolution
in a nation?

Like China?

Msg # 77 Sat Aug 12, 1989 10:39 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Protestors
Resp To:76-Testament

Those protestors caused a lot of F**king trouble. They eventually brought in
the Staties with the armored school bus and riot gear and took them out
forcefully. Pretty funny thing to see, actually. Got VIOLENT, too.

Not-Man, let's protest the chem building

Msg # 78 Sun Aug 13, 1989 4:14 AM
From:FRUMPY-NW5
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:O.K. ...
Resp To:67-Testament

Parties: no idea, not a clue.

Classes: not bad, for the most part.
Some are just boring lecture classes,
where you write notes the whole period,
but others can be interesting if you
get a good teacher who really seems to
care whether or not you learn the
stuff. Honors classes are hard work,
but usually quite fun.

People: good, for the most part.
There's little to no harassment from
your peers--unlike high school. Most
are either outgoing party animals or
serious students.

Upperclassmen: so far I've had no
problems with them. They tend to leave
you alone if you leave them alone.
(Perhaps I should say, ignore you?) Oh
yeah, for the most part, the teachers
treat you more like mature, responsible
adults.

Girls: sorry...no idea, not a clue. :D

<Frumpy>

Msg # 79 Sun Aug 13, 1989 6:16 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:FRUMPY-NW5
Subject:Girls
Resp To:78-Testament

As the University is so fond of saying:

"There are no boys and girls at the University, only men and women."

I warn you, Rog, don't ever call a female a girl, she'll tear your head off.
They are called WOMEN now.

Just as you are a man.

Not-Man

Msg # 80 Sun Aug 13, 1989 7:55 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:The wimin
Resp To:79-Testament

Durr.. w--w.. w-..wo--wome...women?

That word?

What 'bout "females?" "Why now, you're a grown female!" :D

Msg # 81 Sun Aug 13, 1989 10:00 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:SCRIPTO-NW92
Subject:The stones..
Resp To:61-Woodstock..

Of screw off.. Your musical tastes has gone to your head.. The stones are
stale..

Msg # 82 Sun Aug 13, 1989 10:02 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:ROchester
Resp To:63-Testament

Snowl are you going to ROCHESTER??

Msg # 83 Sun Aug 13, 1989 10:07 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:1hr lay..
Resp To:68-Testament

This didn't happen the first day you were there did it?? I have a friend who
hopped into the sack (actually I think it was sod.. he didn't get into to much
detail..) at Oreintation.. He kept mumbling something about meeting her during
a language proficiency test.. I dunno.. He can't wait to go back..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 84 Sun Aug 13, 1989 10:13 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:College
Resp To:74-Testament

I am pumped for college. I must admit having the same friends for four
straight years gets pretty boring.. They are great friends and all but I want
some new spark in my life.. I am glad that I won't be seeing them for 10 months
because when I come back I know they will be different. But I am also quite
worried about one small thing.. I am in the Honors Program.. I have heard
horror stories about it being an Academic wasteland were only the craftily
inteligent survive. AAAGH!!! I hope not..
I am definitely going to be on the hunt for the 'right' girl at college.. Most
definitely..
Solomon Kane

Msg # 85 Sun Aug 13, 1989 10:57 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:,,,
Resp To:80-Testament

I usually save myself a lot of trouble by referring to them as females, also.

Not-Man

Msg # 86 Sun Aug 13, 1989 11:00 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:No
Resp To:83-Testament

No, on the 2nd.
and the 3rd
and the 4th
and the Nth.

180
XXXXX
X
X
X and on the Nth day
X
X
XXXXXX
n=1

Not-Man

Msg # 87 Sun Aug 13, 1989 11:03 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:College
Resp To:84-Testament

It's scary how much your friends change while their at college.

I was in the honors program my 1st semester. I dropped out since it really
sucked shit in a big way. All these extra classes and HW assignments, maintain
a 3.2 gpa in my major classes. Cut the shit. I want to have some fun, too.

You should find the 'right' girl their, too.

BC, right.

Not-Man

Msg # 88 Sun Aug 13, 1989 9:10 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Rochester
Resp To:82-Testament

Yes, I am going to Rochester, NEW YORK. It's right near the Great Lakes, right
next to the Canadian border. I will be attending RIT, as you may know already.

Msg # 89 Sun Aug 13, 1989 9:11 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Well
Resp To:83-Testament

Geez, if it's all that simple to "hop in the darn sack," I might as well buy a
box of condoms now and be prepared, eh? Not-Man says to protect yourself!

Msg # 90 Sun Aug 13, 1989 9:14 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Honors
Resp To:84-Testament

Yeah, I'm worried about the same thing--can I handle this? Can I handle this
same thing for five years? Can I DO it? Will the entire 5 years become my
worst nightmare? Gods, I hope not! I want it to be the best 5 years I've had.

Uike you, I'm also looking for the "right" girl too. But, does she have
to be in the same college as you? I admit that would make things a bit easier.

How big is the college you're going to (Boston College, or B.U. was it???)

RIT is about 15,000 people big.

Msg # 91 Sun Aug 13, 1989 11:42 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Protection
Resp To:89-Testament

Yup. You'd better protect yourself, or you are liable to wake up one day
covered in....in...in..er, well you get the picture. A lot of the women get
around, so the Trojans would be a very good idea.

Although I've never, ever used one. The Pill is my savior, as well as
background checks.

Not-Man

Msg # 92 Mon Aug 14, 1989 3:21 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Background checks?
Resp To:91-Testament

What do you do? Run a computer check at the police station? Har har.
Blood test too?

Don't you ever worry about screwing up and getting someone preggers?

I just got my housing assignment. I found out I'm going to live in a suite,
three rooms connected to a bathroom!

Is that any good?

Msg # 93 Mon Aug 14, 1989 4:38 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Suites
Resp To:92-Testament

I have given up worrying about it, seeing as my girlfriend doesn't and she has
already said that if she did get pregnant, she would have an abortion. She
will NOT let me wear a condom, so I guess I have no choice. I'm not
complaining.

You're living in a suite
???

Pretty cool, but I prefer living on a hall with one big bathroom for about 25
people. Meet people a lot in the bathroom, especially in the showers when
everyone is in their own little stall and you usually just join in the
conversation that is going on at the time.

Not-Man

Msg # 94 Mon Aug 14, 1989 11:43 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Suites
Resp To:93-Testament

What are suites like? I've only seen the normal, typical undersized college
dorms. I hope life in college is grand, rather than a living nightmare.

What do I do if it becomes a nightmare?

Your answer--"Drink a beer. Find a girl. Screw that girl." :D

Msg # 95 Mon Aug 14, 1989 12:16 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:B.C.
Resp To:87-Testament

I just got two very interesting peices of mail form B. C... One said..

Dear Student,

We have not recieved word on your band status. We must know if you plan on
joining us for this summers Band Camp before you become an integral part of
band. Please write..

Hmm... Funny. I don't play an instrument.. I've never been in band all my
life.. Maybe they know something I don't?

Oh and I got..

JOIN the GOLD KEY society have fun, meet people.. USHER at football games!!
And other assorted fun tasks.. Nahh..

Solomon Kane.

Msg # 96 Mon Aug 14, 1989 12:18 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Uh-Oh...
Resp To:88-Testament

I know someone going there.. You be up against some serious brains out there
my friend.. Ugh! Although he isn't going egineering he is incredibly smart AND
knows how to study for the good grades..

Solomon Kane.

Msg # 97 Mon Aug 14, 1989 12:20 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Got ine..
Resp To:89-Testament

I got a pack from a friend at graduation.. Don't know why.. Said something
about being worried about me whilst I was away..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 98 Mon Aug 14, 1989 12:24 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:B.C
Resp To:90-Testament

B.C. is about 12,000 or less.. Freshman class is only 2500 I think.. (Probably
less). I would rather having one at the same college.. Although B.U and
Harvard, and Mit, and Brandies, And Northeastern, and Tufts aren't too far
away..
I think I will be able to handle it.. If not it is quite easy to get out of
the Honors program.. But for me the Honors program knocks out three classes so
I have a grand total of FOUR!!!

Msg # 99 Mon Aug 14, 1989 10:31 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:And?
Resp To:96-Testament

And I'm not considered serious brains? :D

Well, I'll find out when I get there. There are 9 colleges comprising a total
of RIT. NTID is one of those colleges. I applied through NTID, but RIT took
me directly into RIT and I can use NTID services through RIT rather than RIT
through NTID. Only 25 people have been accepted that way.

Msg # 100 Mon Aug 14, 1989 10:33 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:RIT
Resp To:96-Testament

Maybe I should have applied to MIT and took 4 years of rest... :D

Why is it that whenever I take something, it is subtly more difficult than the
blatantly difficult one.. for example:

AP Calculus and regular Calculus. Regular Calculus was more THOROUGH than the
AP one!! ARGHH! Then my choice of college... I thought I wasn't goin' to be
hassled!! :D There are a lot of other things, but they'd be esoteric.

Msg # 101 Mon Aug 14, 1989 10:34 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Box
Resp To:97-Testament

Looks like I'll haveta get one, jus' ta be safe. :D

What do you expect at BC? Serious brain bashing too?

Msg # 102 Mon Aug 14, 1989 11:38 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Thassright
Resp To:94-Testament

Hey, that may be my answer now(hehe), but first semester was a nightmare and
ther was nothing I could do to make it better. But then I got my rules
straight, and college life is just fine.

Suites are basically like the rest of other rooms, with the exception that you
get to meet the people in your suite quicker and share the same bathroom with
them. That's about the only diffence. My room at school is 18x10 and isn't
too small. Of course after you bring in computers, stereos, dressers, beds,
foot lockers, refrigerators, and desks, the space dwindles to pretty much
nothing.

Not-Man

Msg # 103 Mon Aug 14, 1989 8:40 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Brains
Resp To:101-Testament

And do you think that there are no serious brains that attend Umass?? Could
have fooled me, because I have never seen such intelligence in my life.

Then there's me......

I thought I was smart until I went there, then I found out I was (eek)
"average."

Not-Man

Msg # 104 Tue Aug 15, 1989 12:05 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Dorms
Resp To:102-Testament

I heard that my dorm might have a loft in it. Hope it does!

Msg # 105 Tue Aug 15, 1989 12:06 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:College
Resp To:103-Testament

All this college talk is getting rather discouraging.

I'd rather not talk anymore about college.

There's more negative than the positive...

Msg # 106 Tue Aug 15, 1989 12:21 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Lofts
Resp To:104-Testament

Maybe, but I doubt it. There is a move on to totally eliminate lofts from dorm
rooms because of the fire hazard that they pose..

It's easy enough to make your own though. All you need is some cinderblocks, a
few 2x4's and a chain saw.

Don't get caught tho,

Not-Man

Msg # 107 Tue Aug 15, 1989 12:23 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Who cares
Resp To:105-Testament

It's a dose of reality, a slap in the face, a be all end all.

First day of classes 3 weeks from today. I'm psyched, and besides that, there
are killer frat parties during the first and second weeks.

Do something fun Rog, and rush a frat. I did(Even got into one Pi Kappa
Alpha), but said "no dice." You'll meet lotsa interesting people then.

Too many as a matter of fact

Not-Man

Msg # 108 Tue Aug 15, 1989 5:24 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Me
Resp To:107-Testament

I'm leaving next Thursday.. Oh, woe is me.. :D

I plan on doing something fun! I have a whole week to bum around, it's all
orientation. No classes, etc. I hope...

As for the lofts, are they an advantage, as in, extra floor space?

Msg # 109 Tue Aug 15, 1989 5:58 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Great..
Resp To:99-Testament

Great.. And I know two.. Of.. Axk!

Msg # 110 Tue Aug 15, 1989 6:02 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Brain Bashing..
Resp To:101-Testament

Freshman year I am not too worried about since I already have had everything
in Highschool.. For instance in highschool I took Ap Calc.. In College I took
honors calc. (Gotta Like That) And I have covered most Honors Program stuff in
high school.. (i.E Greek and Roman thought) Basically (I hope) it will just be
a huge volume of work and some minor brain bashing. That is until next year..

Solomon Kane

Msg # 111 Tue Aug 15, 1989 8:45 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:College
Resp To:105-Testament

There is nothing ultimately negative about college when you look at it in this
light... Most people who drop out of college end up making 20,000 a year, at
the most.
Work hard, and learn the art of moderation.

Msg # 112 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:55 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Two of...what?
Resp To:109-Testament

You lost me with that message... Two.. Of... axk? What is axk?

Msg # 113 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:56 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:Brain Bashing
Resp To:110-Testament

Do you realize that they accellerate these things at an unbelievable rate?

Msg # 114 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:58 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:College
Resp To:111-Testament

True, but, most of the input around here is decidedly more negative rather than
the positive. I thrive on positive input. I can't stand people that are
negative, or those whole themselves realists-- Pessimists or realists--
is the same thing to me.

Pyschologically, the human brain works much more efficiently with positive
stimulation.

Msg # 115 Wed Aug 16, 1989 11:59 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Whoops
Resp To:111-Testament

"whole themselves realists?" Typo!

"who call themselves realists." Correction!

Msg # 116 Wed Aug 16, 1989 3:28 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Yup
Resp To:113-Testament

I have new for you Sk, there is a big
difference between AP classes and
college classes. They go 10 times
faster and will blow you off the map if
you go in there with the attitude that
"Hey, I've already had this class, I
know all this."

An example: CHEM 111-112 at Umass

In the first 5 weeks of chem 111 we
covered ALL of the material covered in
honors chem 1 and 2 at THS. You should
have seen what they were throwing at us
at the end of Chem 112. Real fun,
yeah, real fun!

I almost failed chem 111 because i had
that attitude.

Not-Man, it's all brain bashing

Msg # 117 Wed Aug 16, 1989 6:18 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Classes
Resp To:116-Testament

"Hey wow dudes, sounds like fun!" <grin>

I never took Chem2 at THS, because my science program was off track. 1st year,
I took IPS, that was a breeze, then I took Biology, that was a breeze. I got
recommended into the honors program, so I took honors Chem and finally
H-Physics. I don't know why I didn't jump right into the honors right away, my
science teacher from 8th wouldn't recommend me. #$%@#$% her!!

So, what do you advise to all this class juggling? How can we cope with all
this acceleration? This is going to be very intense for me, definitely. And
I don't want to hear any more bullshit about "Oh, come on, it'll be a f'n
breeze man" because IT ISN'T.

If you tell me that there is no way to cope with this, then I am going to
derive great pleasure in ripping apart your throat. <grin>

Msg # 118 Thu Aug 18, 1989 5:58 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Editors
Resp To:115-Testament

Wasn't i saying a few years back this system should hirer an editor for the
messages?

Msg # 119 Thu Aug 18, 1989 5:59 PM
From:HUMAN-NW59
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Possession
Resp To:115-Testament

You've been demonically possesed havn't you?!!?
Let me guess... Nellie Olson, right?

Msg # 120 Thu Aug 18, 1989 11:25 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Coping
Resp To:117-Testament

There are plenty of ways to cope with
it. Things like resource centers for
all science courses. Things like
computer tutorials. Things like extra
help sessions. ANd Finally, things
like GRAD STUDENTS!!!! They know it
all, (at least to you they do), and are
usually more than willing to help you
out in any way possible.

I still got a bit crazy at times and
did things like break windows and
chairs, and also quite a bit of
crying(Yes, it got that bad!). But, I
also took great pleasure in Burning my
Chem books after second semester.

Not-Man

Msg # 121 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:26 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:HUMAN-NW59
Subject:Whoops!
Resp To:118-Testament

Sorry about that, but I was correcing MY previous message, not YOURS.

Msg # 122 Fri Aug 19, 1989 11:47 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:TWO OF THE fabled 25!!!
Resp To:112-Testament

Get it now?? AWK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Msg # 123 Fri Aug 19, 1989 11:53 AM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Look
Resp To:113-Testament

Not to sound like a braggart, Rog.. But.

In highschool I took four years AP Math (supposedly equivalent to a freshman
honors course.. ) Two years AP English. (In senior year of which we did
everthing Brown Freshman english students did.) (We also covered greek and
roman thought.) I also took One year Ap. American History, Ancient History,
European History (A.P). In which I learned the basics of greek and roman
thought. I also took meaningless science classes except for AP. Physics 1 and
Two.
I realize that everything is accelerated in college but I am hoping that the
skills I learned in the Ap. Courses will allow me to cope with my freshman work
load with minimum trouble. If not I will be forced to adjust.

Solomon Kane.

Msg # 124 Fri Aug 19, 1989 12:01 PM
From:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:BRain Bashing
Resp To:116-Testament

To quote my phsysics teacher.. 'If you know the basic rules of anything you
can go far in that anything.' I am simply hoping that I am grounded enough in
the basics that what I do in college will not be foriegn.. And if it is not
foriegn it shouldn't be impossibly hard. I am not saying that I think it will
be easy. I know well enough that I am going to have to work my *ss off.

To put itas simply as I can.. . I am hoping that my highschool education will
allow me to handle what college throws at me. So college won't be like a
certian Physics assignment I had once wich looked completely foriegn to me
because I did not take the time to LEARN the BASICS. I have never been so
frustrated in my life than with that one assignment. And I hope never to again.

Solomon Kane.

Msg # 125 Fri Aug 19, 1989 2:09 PM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:SOLOMON KANE-NW49
Subject:AP
Resp To:123-Testament

I have taken a few AP courses myself. They were a LOT of fun. But, I doubt a
college level course would be as fun... 1) They're accelerated unbelievably.
2) It's the same stuff again.

I hope I will be exempted from a few lib. arts courses this year.

Msg # 126 Sat Aug 20, 1989 1:23 AM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
Subject:Lib arts
Resp To:125-Testament

Lib arts courses are fun. That's where you meet all the nice women!!

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Msg # 127 Sat Aug 20, 1989 10:05 AM
From:ROGODETER SNOWL-NW10
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:Well!
Resp To:126-Testament

Well, in THAT case...

I hope I drown myself in liberal arts courses.

Msg # 128 Wed Aug 24, 1989 8:27 PM
From:MEGAYOPE-NW19
To:NOT-MAN-NW60
Subject:True Iron-Man.... Dat's me
Resp To:27-A new message..

My favorite songs are 2 of the others that he mentioned ... True-Iron Man by
Sir Mix-a-lot..... and Once Bitten Twice shy..... Great White Rulz!!!!
Oh........

By the Way!!

RRRRRRR AA PPPPPPP
RR R A A P P
RR R A A PPPPPPPP
RRRRRRRRR A A P
R R A A P
R R

Kicks your buttt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Msg # 129 Wed Aug 24, 1989 10:58 PM
From:NOT-MAN-NW60
To:MEGAYOPE-NW19
Subject:Rap and Shit
Resp To:128-A new message..

Rap is cool, but I wouldn't go as far to say as it "Kicks my butt!!!"

Metal is where it's at. I love it all, from Accept to Zodiac Mindwarp and the
Love Reaction.

Not-Man

Msg # 130 Tue Sep 6, 1989 9:22 PM
From:MEPHISTOCLES-NW38
To:All
Subject:Music

I'm very much into alternative music, (i.e. Cure,b-52's,Pixies, 10,000 maniacs,
New Order, Pil..)
And I think music like that represents / has more talent than most of the pop
top 40 teeny bopper music that's all electronic and robotic...
Synths and Drum machines seem to dominate 95% of all music out. Repetive
basslines, drum patterns, etc....

What do you think?

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NW25 : KILLMOR
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Access : .39949767

NW26 : MASTER PALADIN
Last Call: Sun May 15, 1989 9:46 AM
Computer : Amiga
Fav Color: RED .
Access : .886563573

NW27 : BUNNY
Last Call: Tue May 9, 1989 12:15 AM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .752024926
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NW28 : RIPPER
Last Call: Tue May 9, 1989 6:57 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .708287331

NW29 : NYEMDLA
Last Call: Thu Sep 1, 1989 12:44 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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NW30 : SCIPIO
Last Call: Wed May 10, 1989 1:27 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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NW31 : CAESAR
Last Call: Wed Sep 7, 1989 9:37 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
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NW32 : PALE RIDER
Last Call: Sat Jul 23, 1989 12:12 AM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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NW33 : AFTERBURNER
Last Call: Wed Aug 11, 1989 10:01 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .78357116
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NW34 : STAVOSE
Last Call: Fri Jun 10, 1989 12:45 AM
Computer : Apple II
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Access : .641434286

NW35 : ZEZHIAN
Last Call: Tue Sep 19, 1989 3:58 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .202522928

NW36 : WOLFJACK
Last Call: Sun Sep 4, 1989 9:52 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .757352327
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NW37 : KARL LINDFORS
Last Call: Fri May 12, 1989 4:50 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
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Access : .802876028

NW38 : MEPHISTOCLES
Last Call: Thu Sep 8, 1989 3:08 PM
Computer : Amiga
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Access : .703285788

NW39 : SHAZAM
Last Call: Sun Oct 1, 1989 2:27 PM
Computer : Atari Series
Fav Color: PEACH
Access : .731322765
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NW40 : CHUCK
Last Call: Sun Jul 16, 1989 9:16 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
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Access : .428322823

NW41 : THE JOKER
Last Call: Sun Aug 13, 1989 1:45 AM
Computer : Apple II
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Access : .352314508

NW42 : LANCE
Last Call: Fri Jun 23, 1989 1:23 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .636252642
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NW43 : DARRYL
Last Call: Fri Sep 2, 1989 11:24 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .050562495

NW44 : VOGON
Last Call: Tue Sep 19, 1989 5:23 AM
Computer : Abacus
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Access : .770380352

NW45 : MATRIX CRUISER
Last Call: Sun Jul 2, 1989 7:31 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
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Access : .832407328
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NW46 : THE FUGITIVE GUY
Last Call: Thu Sep 8, 1989 7:02 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: By Far, My Favorite Color Is
Access : .146208023

NW47 : VIC RATTLEHEAD
Last Call: Mon Sep 18, 1989 7:10 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .506454815

NW48 : MANDRAKE
Last Call: Sun Sep 11, 1989 11:31 AM
Computer : Amiga
Fav Color: BLUE 6
Access : .552896244
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NW49 : SOLOMON KANE
Last Call: Thu Sep 1, 1989 5:41 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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NW50 : MONICA BRIGHT
Last Call: Tue Sep 6, 1989 6:18 PM
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Access : .856069

NW51 : SKEEVE
Last Call: Fri May 26, 1989 10:32 PM
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Access : .068102694
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NW52 : CRONOS
Last Call: Sun Jul 16, 1989 1:53 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
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NW53 : BERNIE
Last Call: Tue May 16, 1989 4:49 PM
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NW54 : MARK HARRIS
Last Call: Sat Jun 11, 1989 8:42 PM
Computer : Mac Series
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Access : .474680933
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NW55 : CAPT. DOCS
Last Call: Tue Sep 13, 1989 12:01 AM
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Access : .955613534

NW56 : BARON
Last Call: Tue Jul 4, 1989 8:46 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .940402548

NW57 : BRUCE HURST
Last Call: Sat Oct 7, 1989 8:50 AM
Computer : Mac Series
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Access : .331595818
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NW58 : J-MAN
Last Call: Thu Jul 27, 1989 11:04 AM
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Access : .098135885

NW59 : HUMAN
Last Call: Sun Oct 8, 1989 12:30 AM
Computer : Other Type
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Access : .08029649

NW60 : NOT-MAN
Last Call: Thu Sep 1, 1989 3:00 PM
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Access : .550260658
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NW61 : SLAINE
Last Call: Thu Aug 3, 1989 10:58 PM
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Access : .586387502

NW62 : ROBERT GETTER
Last Call: Thu Aug 3, 1989 4:16 PM
Computer : Atari Series
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Access : .605508258

NW63 : CANNON
Last Call: Wed May 31, 1989 12:15 AM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .404640487
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NW64 : MAXXX
Last Call: Fri Sep 2, 1989 5:01 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: RED
Access : .563517724

NW65 : NINA ELLARD
Last Call: Sun Jun 4, 1989 8:04 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: BLACK .
Access : .447224367

NW66 : BEROL TURQUOISE
Last Call: Mon Oct 9, 1989 2:57 PM
Computer : Mac Series
Fav Color: RED
Access : .868837514
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NW67 : RONALD ARUTUNIAN
Last Call: Thu Jun 1, 1989 9:01 PM
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Access : .210746623

NW68 : SMCONE
Last Call: Fri Jun 2, 1989 12:09 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
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Access : .809948838

NW69 : STRAWBERRY GIRL
Last Call: Tue Sep 6, 1989 3:23 PM
Computer : Atari Series
Fav Color: MAUVE
Access : .473645304
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NW70 : STEVE
Last Call: Sun Jun 4, 1989 10:56 AM
Computer : Apple II
Fav Color: BLACK 1
Access : .353618066

NW71 : Z INNOVATORS
Last Call: Wed Jun 7, 1989 1:13 PM
Computer : Atari Series
Fav Color: PURPLE 2
Access : .155947834

NW72 : LAURA
Last Call: Sat Jul 15, 1989 1:43 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: ALEX .
Access : .775072449
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NW73 : CUTTER
Last Call: Sat Jun 18, 1989 10:23 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
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Access : .807929906

NW74 : CHRIS WHITE
Last Call: Thu Jun 9, 1989 2:56 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE 2
Access : .486579154

NW75 : HIS BANE
Last Call: Fri Jun 17, 1989 2:27 AM
Computer : Cray Supercomputer
Fav Color: RED .
Access : .894140642
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NW76 : MENSAN
Last Call: Fri Oct 6, 1989 9:02 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: YELLOW
Access : .891114511

NW77 : SIR ORANGE
Last Call: Sun Oct 1, 1989 7:43 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
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Access : .830864408

NW78 : JOSEPH
Last Call: Sat Aug 5, 1989 8:36 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: RED .
Access : .952447628
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NW79 : TOM BICICA
Last Call: Thu Jun 16, 1989 1:44 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: RED 2
Access : .413416247

NW80 : PRISM
Last Call: Mon Oct 9, 1989 12:20 PM
Computer : Apple II
Fav Color: DARK BLUE
Access : .647382771

NW81 : SILAS ANTONE
Last Call: Wed Jun 21, 1989 10:46 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: YELLOW k
Access : .819987471
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NW82 : MARK OF THE MOUNTAIN
Last Call: Wed Aug 16, 1989 2:19 AM
Computer : Atari Series
Fav Color: BLUE
Access : .879251694

NW83 : SPARKY
Last Call: Tue Aug 15, 1989 10:18 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE
Access : .938329794

NW84 : MIKE WESTGATE
Last Call: Tue Aug 23, 1989 11:29 AM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: MAUVE
Access : .944138924
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NW85 : DAVID PAULING
Last Call: Mon Jun 26, 1989 9:39 AM
Computer : Other Type
Fav Color: Blue .
Access : .782305042

NW86 : DENNIS GUILLETTE
Last Call: Mon Jun 26, 1989 9:28 AM
Computer : Atari Series
Fav Color: ROYGBIV 2
Access : .736157331

NW87 : SPINSTER
Last Call: Thu Aug 12, 1989 4:40 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: WHITE .
Access : .878882439
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NW88 : STEPHEN
Last Call: Sat Sep 23, 1989 10:05 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BROWN
Access : .363591231

NW89 : WOLVERINE
Last Call: Mon Aug 7, 1989 9:35 PM
Computer : Atari Series
Fav Color: BLACK .
Access : .513760597

NW90 : BLACK KNIGHT
Last Call: Mon Jul 17, 1989 8:54 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: BLACK/RED .
Access : .299152477
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NW91 : TRISTAN
Last Call: Tue Sep 6, 1989 11:09 AM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: GOLD
Access : .457258752

NW92 : SCRIPTO
Last Call: Wed Aug 11, 1989 3:30 PM
Computer : Apple II
Fav Color: BLUE .
Access : .752758363

NW93 : WEDGERAT
Last Call: Fri Sep 9, 1989 7:14 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: GREEN
Access : .599051686
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NW94 : JULIETTE
Last Call: Sun Aug 13, 1989 12:27 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE .
Access : .126406541

NW95 : RAY MANGIO
Last Call: Sat Jul 23, 1989 3:27 AM
Computer : Other Type
Fav Color: green .
Access : .592320366

NW96 : MOBY DICK
Last Call: Thu Jul 13, 1989 6:08 PM
Computer : Other Type
Fav Color: YES 2
Access : .0649831795
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NW97 : PUHUI
Last Call: Tue Sep 19, 1989 3:11 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: R 6
Access : .715491816

NW98 : ALBERT PARKER
Last Call: Sat Jul 23, 1989 8:56 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE .
Access : .933680684

NW99 : GEORGE
Last Call: Mon Aug 8, 1989 11:56 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: GREEN .
Access : .636569897
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NW100 : BOTTLECAP
Last Call: Wed Sep 20, 1989 11:48 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE 6
Access : .751507276

NW101 : JOHN MEEP
Last Call: Fri Jul 22, 1989 2:02 AM
Computer : Amiga
Fav Color: DEAD RED 2
Access : .258990856

NW102 : JARETH
Last Call: Fri Jul 22, 1989 6:43 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: RED .
Access : .149777039
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NW103 : THE EDGE
Last Call: Fri Jul 22, 1989 2:47 PM
Computer : Abacus
Fav Color: BLUE WITH STRIPES 2
Access : .779681376

NW104 : KILLER
Last Call: Tue Jul 25, 1989 10:40 PM
Computer : Cray Supercomputer
Fav Color: BLUE 2
Access : .768376622

NW105 : FLAGG
Last Call: Wed Jul 26, 1989 11:42 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: PITCH BLACK 2
Access : .422321829
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NW106 : MAGNUM
Last Call: Fri Jul 28, 1989 11:37 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: PURPLE 2
Access : .184556699

NW107 : SPEARDODGER
Last Call: Sun Aug 13, 1989 1:27 AM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: RED .
Access : .16808805

NW108 : GREMLIN
Last Call: Mon Sep 25, 1989 12:28 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: BLUE
Access : .774623928
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NW109 : AIR BOURNE
Last Call: Tue Aug 9, 1989 11:49 AM
Computer : Other Type
Fav Color: TRANSPARENT .
Access : .578192386

NW110 : CASPER
Last Call: Sun Sep 17, 1989 8:35 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: BLUE
Access : .0954378735

NW111 : EDGAR
Last Call: Fri Sep 22, 1989 2:18 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: GREEN
Access : .870916697
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NW112 : SIKO KILLR
Last Call: Mon Sep 12, 1989 10:32 PM
Computer : Amiga
Fav Color: IVORY
Access : .962629236

NW113 : POPEYE
Last Call: Thu Aug 12, 1989 11:53 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: PURPLE .
Access : .286353986

NW114 : STALKER
Last Call: Mon Aug 7, 1989 6:04 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: PINK-MILAN .
Access : .411829043
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NW115 : PANTHER
Last Call: Sun Sep 24, 1989 10:08 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE 6
Access : .122746324

NW116 : KALEEMA MAKALOOJA
Last Call: Fri Aug 26, 1989 8:44 PM
Computer : Amiga
Fav Color: SHIT GREEN
Access : .784500104

NW117 : GEOTGEE
Last Call: Fri Sep 29, 1989 11:00 AM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE 6
Access : .0715515946
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NW118 : DRAGFOE
Last Call: Mon Aug 14, 1989 8:51 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: PEACHY/KEEN
Access : .343864787

NW119 : SOLTAN GRIS
Last Call: Tue Aug 23, 1989 1:39 PM
Computer : Amiga
Fav Color: PUCE 6
Access : .232274292

NW120 : MACMENSAN
Last Call: Wed Aug 30, 1989 11:41 AM
Computer : Mac Series
Fav Color: YELLOW
Access : .563543955
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NW121 : JACKS
Last Call: Thu Aug 25, 1989 9:06 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: RED 6
Access : .675480712

NW122 : FAIR MAIDEN
Last Call: Tue Oct 3, 1989 12:43 PM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: BLUE
Access : .369764504

NW123 : LEADHEAD
Last Call: Sun Sep 4, 1989 11:08 PM
Computer : Amiga
Fav Color: AUSTRIAN BLUE
Access : .872864576
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NW124 : KEVIN
Last Call: Mon Sep 5, 1989 11:46 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE
Access : .882113971

NW125 : GEOTGE
Last Call: Fri Sep 29, 1989 1:25 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE 6
Access : .488432325

NW126 : WOODY
Last Call: Mon Oct 2, 1989 3:17 PM
Computer : Apple II
Fav Color: RED
Access : .554261368
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NW127 : MIKE GABUTTI
Last Call: Sat Oct 7, 1989 2:28 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: BLUE
Access : .841475534

NW128 : TELPLUS
Last Call: Thu Oct 5, 1989 11:16 PM
Computer : IBM/Comp.
Fav Color: RED 6
Access : .30950216

NW129 : CHRIS WEISS
Last Call: Sun Oct 8, 1989 1:13 AM
Computer : Commodore 64/128
Fav Color: GREEN 6
Access : .598211877
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The Story So Far...

Once Upon A Time...

In A Galaxy Far, Far Away...

..Never To Be Seen Again.

[ THE END ]

Here was a foriegn man called Yufnuk
Tukanuk. He did not speak english that
well. This made it hard to talk with
others.
Yufnuk was walking down the**
street when two guys pulled a gun out
on him. Yufnuk did not know what a gun
looked like so he ripped the gun out of
the guy's hand and waved it around.
Yufnuk thought it was some kind of
game. He pulled the trigger and shott
the two guys. Blood gushed out all
over the street and Yufnuk laughed an
said "Oosh,yaah, funnie gaime".

[ Continuation ]

So Yufnuk started walking down the
street, waving the gun back and forth
and shooting people left and right, not
worrying whether it was right or wrong.
or left or right.. Hmmmm.. anyway, he
continued walking until he saw this
little girl with really obnoxious red
hair.. And she looked up at him, with
the sun glinting off her eyes and
momentarily blinding him, and with a
drop of saliva traveling down her
scarred face, she screeched.........

"I'm A Sweet Little Cupcake..
BAKED BY THE DEVIL!!!!"

... He then immediately went to
the nearest spaceport and booked the
next ship to Galiardi VII; all the time
shaking his head and saying what a lost
cause the inhabitants of planet Earth
was...

[ Continuation ]

Until one day, Yufnuk walked into
the local convenience store in the
foreign land of Berkley and loudly
proclaimed "I am Strider, son of Radon,
King of Kings!!!".............
(Oops, wrong story)

Yufnuk sauntered into the General
Store in Berkley and enquired of the
Stud-Master behind the deli, "Do you
have any breasts?"...*........
(No, that's not right..)

Yufnuk creeped into the local
establisment, and while jumping atop
the counter, screeched, "They Pelted
Me With Rocks And Garbage!!!" to which
the witty cashier replied....

.... "I still don't think you've quite gotten to the point with this part of
the episode, so let's leave it be."

He then hit our protagonist over the head with a salami.

When he awoke, he could detect the faint smell of

[ Continuation ]

whiteout as the Almighty Author
furiously erased anything that wasn't
relevant to the story. When the
Almighty Author was done, however, all
that was left was the Salami That
Wouldn't Be Erased. No matter how much
He tried and tried, the Salami jsut
would not disappear!! Out of
Desperation, the Almighty Author
finally decided to bludgeon the Salami
with some moldy......

underwear. Seeing that this had little or no effect on the salami, he placed
it under our friend from another planet's nose. Immediately awakening, he
strangled the almighty author and raced out of the store. Crossing the
bridge and entering an even stranger land called Taunton, he proclaimed to
anyone who would listen: "I am Dibardon, formerly Yafnuk, and I declare myself
soverign ruler of this land." The people, seeing that this man was indeed, for
real, said "ah, finally someone different from Dick Johnson!"
Striding into the center of town, he went into the police station, killing the
first police officer he saw. Taking his gun, he killed six more officers,
taking their guns as he went along. After finally leaving the police station,
he strode into East Taunton, but immediately left. I knew Dibardon was
smart!!!
Walking by the Taunton river, he decided that he was thirsty. Walking down the
riverbank to the water, he could feel his lips crying out for liquid. Bending
down to drink from the river, he.....
saw the glorious beauty in tilling the land and becomming an ignorant peasent.
So, he proceeded to a local commune where he applied for membership. He was
heartedly accepted by the communal comrads! The loved him so much they gave
him ten acres of land to till for his private garden. There he stayed for
sometime, learning from the humility of his comrads. He was a happy man!

A NEW STORY BEGINS......
ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE LAND OF ........THE LAND OF.........PEOPLE, YA THAT'S
THE TICKET! A GIRL BY THE NAME OF CHASTITY WENT TO A BALL WEARING NOTHING BUT
HER PRIDE....YOU SEE, IT wAS SUPPOSED TO BE A NUDISTS BALL SHE WAS GOING TO.
BUT WHEN SHE ENTERED THE ROOM SHE WAS SHOCKED!! EVERYONE WAS WEARING
CHOCOLATE.......
...SPANDEX made from a special
kind of chocalate only found in
Hollywood & New York City! Chastity was
AMAZED at how DELICIOUS this made all
the guests look! Particularly this one
man who looked like Arnold
Shwartzenager (Sp??) carved from a
MOUNTAIN of CHOCALATE!! Immediately,
she made her way over to him to
introduce herself, unaware that this
chocolate man had a chocolate
girlfriend!!!
Chastity grabbed Arnold's chocolate arm, and began to eat him!
She got as low as his.......
.....waist, and began to lick the rest of the way down. When
she got to
his #$%%^!!, Arnold's girlfriend Cory suddenly appeared out of
nowhere! She was furious, and announced, "only I get to eat
Arnold's goodies!" Apparently, Cory had been following Arnold
to the gym...or had Arnold been following Cory?...anyway, Cory
had muscles in places where... well, she had lots of muscles.
Cory grabbed Chastity and wrestled her to the floor, where she
immediately slapped a crushing leg scissors on her. Chastity
screemed in agony, but she was helpless in Cory's powerful hold,
as we might expect. Cory only agreed to release her after...
Chastity screemed her submission at the top of her lungs.
She was also forced to admit that she was not as beautiful
as Cory (and she wasn't, for Cory was absolutely gorgeous,
and her beauty had been augmented tremendously by all those
hours in the gym), and that she would keep her hands (and
her tongue) away from Arnold.
Cory released Chastity and turned her attention to Arnold.
Arnold cowered in fear, for he was also at fault for failing
to stop Chastity's advances. Arnold was very familiar with
Cory's powerful thighs, and did not feel like getting hurt
just now. But Cory had other things in mind! She trapped
Arnold in a corner, and really became the life of the party
when she . . . . .

...pulled out her can of liquid, fast
drying chocolate AND her can of whipped
cream!!! At this crucial nexus, she...

covered her luscious thighs with delicious sweets, and announced to
Arnold, "sorry pal, no dessert for you tonight! She asked for a
volunteer from the party - a man resembling a chocolate covered version
of Lou Ferrigno stepped forward. Cory flexed her powerful biceps and
ordered Lou to feel them. He did. Cory said, "I'm going to let you
lick my thighs clean, but try anything cute and I'll use these big
arms to crush you!" Lou obeyed, and immediately started licking away
to his hearts content. Arnold looked on enviously, but he could not
do anything about it. After all, Cory was far more powerful than he,
and seemed to be a little testy at the moment. Finally, Arnold thought
of a plan to put himself back in Cory's good graces . . .

.....First, he grabbed a nearby fire
extinquisher (NOT a FOAM one!) and
sprayed Chastity ALL over! With her
frozen solid (and complete with a
SPARKLING personality) and
out-of-the-way, he turned his attention
to.....

Cory. As Arnold was about to put Cory temporarily
on ice, she tore the fire extinguisher from his
hands and slammed it into the wall, breaking the
nozzle. Arnold attempted to escape, but Cory's
cat-like reflexes were too fast for him. She
suddenly grabbed Arnold's forearm and applied a
vice-like grip that sent Arnold to his knees,
screeming in agony. The guests all watched in
awe, for never had they seen a woman of such
tremendous power. But none dared to rescue poor
Arnold and risk Cory's wrath. Finally Lou
mustered the courage to try (particularly since
this had interrupted his dessert), and he attempted
to tackle the amazon by wrapping his arms around
her thighs. But this was hopeless - Cory laughed
at his feeble attempt while muscles rippled in
her mighty thighs. After a few minutes of this,
she cast Lou aside and left the party with Arnold
firmly in tow. She headed for . . .

...the airport where she kept her
private jet!! Once on board, Arnold
managed to sueak "Where are we going,
sweetheart??"
Cory replied, "The island of
Themenscia - otherwise known as
(drumroll please...) PARADISE ISLAND!!"
"Paradise Island??" Arnold
queried.
"YES, parrot!" she snapped.
"Is that anything like Fantasy
Island??"
"Who do I look like?? Mr.
Roarke?!? No, you fool! I am Diana,
PRINCESS of the AMAZONS!!"
YES!! Arnold had been dating
Wonder Woman herself!! And now he was
on his way to an island populated
SOLELY by WOMEN!!! What would become of
him???
Meanwhile & miles away amidst
after-party-litter, Chastity stood
rigidly in the corner, sparkling
attractively.....

Then all of a sudden , the ceiling collapsed and Poor Miss Chastity got
chastisesd pretty bad.
Moral: Until you know a person , don't go after the goodies,if you value your
life
Once upon a time, when life was slow,
and people wore pajamas, and lived life
low, there was a little boy who was
mislead by another little boy and this
is what he said...
Did you hear about the rooster who said to the cat "I bet you that I can jump
over that river and you can't". Welllll the cat didn't like that one bit and
said to the rooster "I bet you I can.". So the rooster jumped over the river
and made it to the other side but when the cat tried it he fell in. The moral
of this little story is WHERE EVER YOU FIND A HAPPY COCK YOU'LL FIND A WET
PUSSY!!!!! and the other boy said I'll have to remember that.

...To Be Continued!

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TopTen Active Users V1.0

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Listing As Of :Mon Oct 9, 1989 3:19 PM

Callers:

ROGODETER SNOWL 175
NOT-MAN 169
HUMAN 107
FANTASIA 103
MENSAN 72
FRUMPY 68
SOLOMON KANE 65
SPOCK 61
BROSKI D 45
GARFER 38

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Downloads:

AFTERBURNER 10
ZEZHIAN 9
BROSKI D 8
THE FUGITIVE GUY 5
DECKAR 2
SLAINE 2

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Uploads:

AFTERBURNER 8
DECKAR 7
BROSKI D 6
THE FUGITIVE GUY 3
AQUALUNG 1
HAPPY HACKER 1
ZEZHIAN 1

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Posts:

ROGODETER SNOWL 44
NOT-MAN 25
SOLOMON KANE 16
HUMAN 15
SLAINE 11
THE FUGITIVE GUY 7
FRUMPY 6
REBEKAH 6
SPOCK 5
MONICA BRIGHT 5

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Responses:

ROGODETER SNOWL 762
HUMAN 454
SLAINE 438
NOT-MAN 398
FRUMPY 317
SOLOMON KANE 253
MENSAN 229
THE FUGITIVE GUY 107
BEROL TURQUOISE 99
DECKAR 77

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Network XXIII - VoteBooth.

"Viv? Do We Have A Video??????"

## Topic Date Accs
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1 FILMS Jun 19, 1989 1023
2 BLOOMCOUNTY :( Jun 19, 1989 1023
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V:1

FILMS
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WHAT FILM DO YOU THINK IS BEST?

Results From 39 Votes:

3% Ghostbusters II
8% Star Treck V
23% Batman
33% Dead Poets Society
8% The Abyss
3% Young Einstin
18% Indiana Jones and The Last Crucade
5% Eric The Viking

V:2

BLOOMCOUNTY :(
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WHAT CHARACTER DO YOU THINK WILL
SURVIVE THE DEMISE...?

Results From 39 Votes:

49% Opus
36% Bill The Cat
0% Steve Dallas
3% Milo Bloom
3% Binkley
3% Portnoy
0% HodgePodge
3% Rosebud
5% Oliver

V:Q

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The Wall V3.0
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[001]The Wall Is Reset...

[002]Hit Space To Abort Me

[003]Damn man..somebody stole our wall!!

[004]Call MAD MARK'S LUNACY LAIR!!! ALL COMPUTERS!!! (508)586-2686

[005]Call Banana Lair! Supporting all queers!

[006]ONE WAY STREET ROCKS MASSACHUESETTS!!!!!!!!

[007]i hATE yOU aLL, sO gET oUT oF mY hOUSE!!!!!!!

[008]Don't turn your back on the ocean.. It might be waving to you!

[009]confucus say,"as one goes through life, it is better to be like the dog...

[010]...if it cannot be eaten or made love to, then piss on it.

[011]I think I'll write a book. What a NOVEL Idea!! Baw Haw Haw

[012]TRIVIA : What's distinctive about a palmipad's feet?

[013]You Walking Son Of A Dunghill Keeper!

[014]Them bats is smart...They use radar.

[015]Ostentatiously Speaking, Of Course..

[016]I think that I shall never see...a poem as lovely as a tree..cuz I'm blind.

[017]Now THAT'S a shoe!

[018]Excuse me? Which way to the Hell Juice?

[019]The Lotto Machine Is Broken.. And we all know how maddening *that* can be!

[020]I Wear This Suit Cuz It Makes Me Look Good, *DAMN* Good!

[021]I have the strength of 10 men. Too bad they're all 98lb weaklings.

[022]I Think I Feel A Kiss Coming On!

[023]Forced in, like cattle you run, stripped of, your life's worth!!!

[024]two wrongs don't make a right..... but three DO !!!!!

[025]I said, hey man, watchoo gonna do, when time runs out on you!

[026]End of Passion Play, Crumbling away. I'm your source of Self-Destruction

[027]WEDNESDAYS 88.3 FM.... TABLOID RADIO.. PROGRESSIVE/CLASSIC ROCK. TUNE IN, TURN

[028]ON AND DROP OUT WITH L'AURA ON TABLOID RADIO AT 3 PM.

[029]Face...bold expanse across a skin-plain...thundering with the echoes of zits..

[030]Painted up with fear, Sucking darkest clear, leading on your deaths constructio

[031]It's not how you say it, it's the amount of spittle you get in the guy's face

[032]la lA LA LA LAAAAAAA!!! LA LAAAAAAA!!!

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"It's Only A State Of Mind."

The Is The End... Dont Mold,Fpindle Or
Spulitlate.

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