### Apollo BBS Archive - August 18, 1988

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    Message: 4041
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: Next one
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 22:52:35

    So when is the next 'Everybody' is invited G.T. going to be...  It been
    awhile since the last one at Bobs Big Boy...

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    Message: 959
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Rod & David
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 07:45:14

    What language are the two of you speaking in?

    Message: 960
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Poetry
    Subject: Poem
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 09:57:24

                            LATE SUMMER - EARLY FALL

    The shadows grow longer.               Wood smoke is ready.
    Leaves, still green,                   The clouds grow heavier.
    flutter in the breeze                  Can the merriment of
    and sometimes spin away.               children be heard?

    The water is sharp                     Late summer and early fall.
    with mazes of brightness.              It makes two promises.
    It seems to have more substance.       One of death!
    It closes in around me.                One of new life!

    The sounds have changed somehow.
    The bird's song is more muted
    and mellow - less crisp.
    The flowers look tired.

    The insects seem to be looking
    for one last feast.
    Their job almost done.
    It is time for rest.

    Message: 961
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: David
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 12:01:27

    Silly boy, there you go again
    Amusing me always in your quest
    To find hidden meanings in my poems.
    As I said before, I tell everything,
    Nothing is hidden.

    Message: 962
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 12:54:08

            Except that small area of concrete.

    Message: 963
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 23:26:28

    SATAN?

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    Message: 1840
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Sandy/voting
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 07:51:38

    Your are brain washed by Cliffy! What is he giving you to vote for Bush? Heh
    heh heh. Come on over for 'corruption lession #120'! You'll be voting for
    Arnie by the time I get through with you! Ta ta. =*--ANN--*=
    P.S. Say - I just thought of somehing - isn't Arnie a Republican married to
    a democrat (Maria)?

    Message: 1841
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Reps and Dems
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 12:02:53

    You hug my elephant, and I'll kiss your ass.

    (Good line for a Republican, doesn't really work for me though.)

    Message: 1842
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 12:57:57

            I can see why you are not out there writing speeches.

    Home is the best place for you.

    (the dog house, maybe?)

    Message: 1844
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Westfall
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 18:32:37

    What a fucking geek.

    Message: 1846
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: SYSOP/last
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 22:44:37

    Gee Cliff, I thought it would be against your religion to lie...

    HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
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    Message: 1847
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 23:27:43

    You're right, Chris -- Taranto isn't a geek.

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    Message: 53746
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Deanna
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 01:56:26

    Of course you could give an Ethiopian a job.  As long as they have a current
    work visa.

    Message: 53747
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Dean Hathaway/$10
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 01:57:05

    Since you are so confident about Bush, are you giving odds?  Give me 2 to 1,
    and I'll put $20 down.

    Message: 53748
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 06:45:28

    Of which "immoral" plank of the Democratic platform am I on the receiving
    end?
     I certainly don't need an abortion, and if I did, would be opposed to them.
    Besides, you made a question out of the statement. Have you read the
    platform, or any plank of it? What, specifically, does it say about abortion
    on demand?
    If you want to talk immoral, let's talk about the silent support that the
    Republican ticket gave to Jerry Fallwell's little comic book that depicted
    Michael Dukakis as a fag, in drag! That, to me, is immoral, reprehensible
    and totally inexcusable! But it's OK with you, I suppose. After all, your
    precious Repulsivecans can do no wrong!

    Message: 53749
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Cliff/the vote
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 07:36:34

    Actually, I am not being heavy about this subject. I am not for either
    candidate. It's just an amusing stage play put on by both parties in order
    to tout their wares. It is always amazing the promices they make and never
    keep! - the accusations against each other! I do have one question --- how
    does either party (or the people who vote for them) expect to change things
    --- expect to use their parties belief's - expect to keep their campain
    promices - if the senate isn't basically of the same party? Reagan had some
    great ideas during his term - but was voted down by democrats time after
    time??!! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53750
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Dean/$10
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 07:44:05

    No - I won't bet! It's just that I thought that no one could beat Bush -
    riding on the coattails of Reagan like he is - but he puts on a poor showing
    and needs someone like 'Chrismatic Quayle' to off set his 'Blahness'! So now
    I'm not so sure that Ducaca won't slip in there afterall. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53751
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dean/James
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 08:24:52

    OK, Dean, we have a bet.

    Sorry, James, $10 is all I care to wager.  After all, even if I win I lose.

    Message: 53752
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: VOTE
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 10:25:01

    God or sombody, or somthing PLEASE HELP US.

    Message: 53753
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: BUSH & QUAYLE
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 11:43:03

         Bush and Quayle winning in November means one thing - four years of bad
    bird jokes by JT.
         Is this what we've come to, America?

    Message: 53754
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Paul...
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 12:13:36

         Paul, I knew you would "White Wash" my post on the Democrats PRO-
    Abortion issue...  But I did not realize you would use some sleazy comic
    that kills no one, not even babies.  The Democrats kill Babies... And if you
    are a strong supporter of Democratic ideals... you support Abortion and the
    paying for it by Tax revenue.
         I do not support that "Comic", but then that is NOT a plank on the
    Republican ticket.
         I watched the COMPLETE Democratic Convention, as I am interested in
    what they have to say... Unlike you, I do not LOCK out all ideals, and I do
    not vote a straight ticket... But.... Since the Democrats support Baby
    killing, I have no choice but to Vote REPUBLICAN all the way....
         Did you watch the COMPLETE Convention, both Republican and Democratic?
    Be Honest???? (obviously the Republican one is not over yet)
         And pick on issues, not some individual whose morals are questionable
    and who is not even running for office.
         Welfare people should move to Boston Mass.  Responsible people for
    Arizona!

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    Message: 53755
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Dukakis/Guns
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 12:43:11

            Dukakis is VERY anti gun!  Look at what he has done in
    Massachusetts.
            Dukakis is favoring federal control of Western water.

            Dukakis is Pro-Abortion and as far as I can see, has a lack of
    MORALS.

            Dukakis is a LIBERAL, and they are even afaid to say the L-WORD

            Dukakis has done nothing in BOSTON to fix or even address the
    problem of the POLUTED Boston Harbor... he does not care????

            Dukakis has been QUICK to release the CRIMINALS from jails.

    P.S.  Bush ain't perfect either... but... I feel better with him than
    I do this easterner guy....the Duke!

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    Message: 53756
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Misc
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 13:37:26

       I would agree that spending is mainly the province of Congress.  But in
    that case, it matters not who is president.  Even if the Republican wants to
    stop spending but can't, the outcome is not differnent from a Democrat that
    doesn't want to cut spending.  In both cases, spending goes on.  Given that,
    saying a vote for Dukakis is a vote for higher taxes is not true.  Only
    votes for individual members of Congress can control that.
       There are things I like and dislike on both sides.  I think Bush's child
    care is better, but I'll bet he'll forget it after the election.
       The debates should be interesting, as each side is going to bring up the
    things that the other would rather hide.  Dukakis isn't going to want to
    talk about letting murderers out, and Bush isn't going to want to talk about
    secretly selling arms to an avowed enemy of the US, Iran, just as a couple
    examples.

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    Message: 53757
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Quayle
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 13:45:00

        Interesting about Quayle being grandson of Eugene Pulliam.  Considering
    Evan Mecham's feelings about that family, I wonder if he voted for Bush
    (sorry, I missed the roll call, as I was at work) and if he did or didn't,
    what he has to say about Quayle.
        I don't think the voters consider the VP too much when voting.  If they
    did, the Bush ticket might have some trouble since Quayle is on the
    conservitve side.  Bush has to capture the moderate Democrats, like Reagan
    did, in order to win.

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    Message: 53758
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: A-L-A-N
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 15:07:00

            Not as open and shut as you put it A-L-A-N.....
    A President that favors a tax increase will SIGN the bill, The President
    that is against that tax increase will VETO the bill.  This makes it much
    harder, but if the major majority WANTs that tax, then it can be sent though
    over the Presidents head.  Typically when they work together, more will get
    done, otherwise it is a lot of compromise.  Such as You pass my pet project
    and I will pass yours.....

            This is what I fear most about getting a Democratic President since
    the Congress is TYPICALLY Democratic....  Horror stories to come.....
    Why, because I do not believe in give-a-way programs (handouts) using money
    that some of us responsible people WORK so hard for.
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    Message: 53759
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: James Hawley
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 16:44:35

      If you are willing to bet $10 on Dukakis at even odds I will cover your
    bet.
      See You Later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 53760
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: James Hawley
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 17:19:14

      If you are willing to bet $10 on Dukakis at even odds, I will cover your
    bet.
    Sorry, this will be the only bet I make for $$$$

    Cliff

    Message: 53761
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Dukakis
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 22:51:01

    If there is a Demoquack voted into office, I will be moving to CANADA,
    anyone else?  Dukakiss' name sounds good as a Democrat (DEMOQUACK).
    Dukakis the DemoQUACK....
    Duquackis the DemoQUACK....

    HMMM.....
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    Message: 53762
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Vote
    Subject: Old Vote
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 23:44:49

    What is your 'PRIMARY' personal Computer?

     TRS-80 Mod I/II/III or CoCo
     Tandy 1000 or other Tandy IBM compatible
     Apple II/IIe/IIc or Franklin 1000 or compatible
     IBM (Big Blue)
     Sanyo 555
     Sanyo 775/885/16+/17+/18+ or 990
     Atari 400/800/1200 or any Atari 8 bit
     Atari ST 520 or 1040
     Macintosh
     Commodore 64/128 or SX (Vic-20?)
     Commodore Amiga
     Lap-Top Computer (any brand)
     Other IBM compatible Clones...Star, Blue Chip...etc
     CPM machine
     Not listed above!

    Poll results to date:
     1     5     0     2     0     4     2     7
     3     3     3     2     15    1     1

    Message: 53763
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 23:49:54

    Why not admit that you are one of those that the Democratic party has left
    behind in their move toward liberalism in the last 30 years -- then you,
    like Ronald Reagan, Jeanne Kirkpatrick and others -- can join the Republican
    party.

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     1:        I glanced at my watch this afternoon and it was 2:22:22.  Does this
     2:mean I should bet $2. on the number 2 horse in the second race?  Confused in
     3:Phoenix.
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    Message: 1495
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: this SIG
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 02:51:09

    Why not all of us users get together with Spaz and discuss it? I understand
    she is in town.

    Message: 1496
    Author: $ Traci Sibel
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: ???
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 09:48:05

    What is wrong with this SIG??? It gets use, nobody has vocalized offense at
    the subject matter, and why can't we talk about what we want???
    Since when is Apollo censored???

    Message: 1497
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 11:13:32

            That is what we are trying to find out ......
    Is there anything wrong with this sig.?

            The unfinished story is having difficulty finding its way to the
    last page of the book.

            I am wondering if we have a clash of tastes as far as stories go.

            Will you sig. members rather have 'G', 'PG', and 'PG-13' type
    stories told here and move the blood and guts AND sex stories to the WAY
    Below Normal sig?
            Those who are able to write either type of story can have access to
    both sigs. Those who find it easier to write a certain type of story can do
    so on either sig. Those who find 'G', 'PG', or 'PG-13 type movies offensive
    can belong to the WAY Below Normal sig., and those who find blood and guts
    AND sex stories offensive can write in the VOID.

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    Message: 115
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Cliff/Democrats
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 01:58:45

    I seem to remember you saying that you would close your store in '84 if
    Democrats won.  It really helped having Reagan in another term, eh?

    Message: 116
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Mighty SYSOPs
    Subject: Zak
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 13:06:14

            shhhhhhhhh!

    Show some respect for the swept up gutter brains.

    Message: 117
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Mighty SYSOPs
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/18/88  Time: 13:06:32

            Pull what off?