### Apollo BBS Archive - October 10, 1988

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    Message: 4444
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: JT
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 17:16:59

    But it would be tried in a court located in Arizona, right?

    Message: 4445
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Kars / Automotive
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 20:23:40

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
    It seems so funny listening to you talk about Kars...  I just can't see you
    getting greasy, although I don't know why...
    This weekend I worked on my neighbors 83 Ford Ranger 2.8 V-6.  I repacked
    the front wheel bearings, new plugs cap and rotor, hoses upper and lower,
    thermostat, oil change, and alot more........

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    Message: 4446
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Kars / Automotive
    Subject: Chris
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 21:12:31

            It is not so strange that I work on cars.  I once had a race care
    (quarter mile) that I built and drove...  to many victories I might add.
    Many years ago I worked for the Ed Miller Racing team and ran Mopar Hemi
    cars.  in 1967, Ed Miller was the worlds Super Stock Champ in a Hemi
    Plymouth.

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 4447
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Kars / Automotive
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 23:33:26

    Tell us more!

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    Message: 4448
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Kars / Automotive
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 01:52:14

    Milling the heads and doing a little port matching is far from all you're
    going to need to blow me into the weeds. Why not race Ann for starters? I'll
    take on the winner just for laughs.

    Message: 4449
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Kars / Automotive
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 05:10:41

    So you've got a lot of credentials, but are you any good?
    I've got a Ford 460 that seems to be in need of some work, but have learned
    to distrust most so-called Ford "experts", especially since Don Sanderson,
    with all his high dollar equipment and high priced technicians (to the
    public) couldn't find a crack in my distributor cap.
    At the moment it is acting like a sick carburetor, or possibly some faulty
    valves, and I have outgrown my need or desire for fame in the mechanic line.
     If you need more info, give me a call. I think you have my unlisted number.

    Message: 4450
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Don Sanderson
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 05:45:40

    Don Sanderson has been dead for a year or two.

    Message: 4451
    Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Todd
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 07:37:04

    Hey......Toddie.........

    What else is there to do in a jug except get out of it?

    See Y'aa..........
    Jeannie

    Message: 4452
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Chris on Cliff
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:36:07

    What makes you think he gets greasy? Have you ever seen his garage and
    equipment? They are so spotless, you cound eat off them and the floor too. I
    also cannot see Cliff getting greasy, coming into the bathroom to wash up,
    leaving his dirty clothes on the floor, leaving the sink and soap greasy and
    the towel filthy too --- like my darling hubby does. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4453
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:13:21

    Can you turn my rotors?

    Message: 4454
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ssssandy
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:13:46

    My friends can call me Todd.

    Mr. Paul Savage can call me Mr. Reese.

    Message: 4455
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Jeannie
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:14:11

    Would you like some help getting out of your jug?

    Message: 4456
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Nick
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 12:59:56

    Exactly what do you have that is so BIG AND BAD?
    Year, model, make and C.I.D.

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    Message: 4457
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rotors
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 13:08:16

            Yes, I can turn rotors!  I have a 17 inch swing lathe.

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 4458
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Burkhart
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 17:05:45

    It would be in U.S. District Court in Arizona, not Arizona Superior Court.

    Message: 4459
    Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: To(dd)
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 17:33:44

       If you friends can call you 'Todd' (with two d's) and Paul can call you
    Mr. Reese.....does that mean that I can call you 'Toad'?

    (LL)oyd Pulley

    Message: 4460
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 21:30:43

            Instead of Toad, he might want to be called Toddy.

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     1:        Good Mormons do not drink alcohol (or even caffein).  The question
     2:is, are you a good Mormon, Todd?  My religion permits me to drink whiskey
     3:and beer but I hate the stuff.  The only thing it ever did for me was give
     4:me enough nerve in high school to ask the girlies to dance.  I had to have
     5:at least one beer in order to dance.
     6:                                Me
     7:end

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    Message: 1046
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Review/Critique
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 02:01:09

    Your poem is misleading. You do not dry the entire banana, just the
    scrapings from the inside of the peels.

    Message: 1047
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Review/Critique
    Subject: Daryl & Rod/bananas
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:37:31

    Cute odes - now, how about cabbage?

    Message: 1048
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:41:37

    There are a lot of cabbage heads out there.

    Message: 1049
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cabbage Heads
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:49:36

    Cabbage Heads, Cabbage Heads
    All in a row
    Watch them rot in a vacant lot
    and kick them with your toe
    Throw them up against the wall
    And watch them bounce around
    Dress them up in formal tux
    And let them paint the town
    Cabbage Heads, cabbage heads
    Never get a date
    They just sell insurance
    And always get in late.

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    Message: 2108
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Up Yours
    Subject: B.Dog
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 19:57:17

    Essentially it's the peaceniks and the little old ladies with the electric
    golf carts screeching for disarmament...these are the true war mongers.
    Little does the general population realize that when totally disarmed,
    a country gets invaded, that the true genocide begins...and this is what
    they REALLY want.

    You've been watching too much T.V.  -Soap opera's will do that to you.

            -Mike

    Message: 2109
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 20:25:23

    I have to agree with Mike 100%!

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    Message: 2110
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Oh, Right.
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 22:54:15

    Pacifists want to die. Pacifists REALLY want genocide, eh? Guess you have to
    be a pacifist to know JUST WHAT pacifists want.

    Message: 2111
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: Mike/last
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:43:03

    'Peaceniks and little old ladies in electric golf carts, screeching for
    disarmament are the true War Mongers'??? How did you come to that
    conclusion? Doesn't make sense. What is your diffenition of 'Peaceniks'?
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 2112
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:45:01

    One who does not get apeace!!!!is a nic.
                           The Old Fart Ralph

    Message: 2113
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Carter
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:01:27

    I'm *not* for unilateral disarmament, but *total* disarmament, like I said.

    It is twisted people like you who think up slogans like "War is Peace"

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     1:        So, what's a life.  Exactly what is this shit we call flesh and why
     2:is it so damn important.  When mankind grows up he will discover that a
     3:death is no more or less important than a birth.
     4:        If you ask me, it (flesh) is just some sort of sick growth.  Well,
     5:it sure in the hell ain't WELL, is it?  It sure isn't that intelligent, is
     6:it?  If it were intelligent, I guess, we would have a wonderful world.
     7:                                Ugh
     8:end

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    Message: 2115
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: (see below)
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:58:04

    "Industrial Funkadelic Sludge"

    My sister has just one buttock
    And lives in someplace Greek
    She tattooed rainbows on her nose
    And dates a fucking geek
    I walk around in Polyester
    Whistling the news
    My father sits on flaming spears
    And downs a couple brews
    I don't know where my mother is
    We lost her years from now
    She'll probably return last week
    But I don't quite know how
    I dance around industrial waste
    In the flatulent breeze
    Some say a rose would smell as sweet
    I think I'll belch at trees.

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    Subject:POETRY/Darly

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     1:        Publish, publish, publish.
     2:end

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    Message: 1571
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: jobs
    Date: 10/07/88  Time: 23:41:14

    Bumper sticker on beat-up old Buick:

    Shucks!  I forgot to get a job!

    Message: 1572
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Night-Life
    Subject: Movies
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:02:24

    Did anybody else see "The Big Clock" on CHannel 8 Friday night? It was
    _great_!!!

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    Message: 54556
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 17:15:00

    Refusing to understand jokes, eh?
    I take it you think the Dukakis campaign's ad is NOT silly?

    Message: 54557
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: U.S. Propaganda
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 17:39:37

      If the U.S. were a totalitarian state, the Ministry of
    Truth would simply have said, "It's right for us to go into
    Vietnam.  Don't argue with it."  People would have
    recognized that as the propaganda system, and they would have
    gone on thinking whatever they wanted.  They could have
    plainly seen that we were attacking Vietnam, just as we can
    see that the Soviets are attacking Afghanistan.
      People are much freer in the U.S., they are allowed to
    express themselves.  That's why it's necessary for those in
    power to control everyone's thought, to try to make it appear
    as if the only issue in matters such as U.S. intervention in
    Vietnam are tactical: Can we get away with it?  There is no
    discussion of right or wrong.
      During the Vietnam War, the U.S. propaganda system did its
    job partially but not entirely.  Among educated people it
    worked very well.  Studies show that among the more educated
    parts of the population, the government's propaganda about
    the war is now accepted unquestioningly.
      One reason that propaganda often works better on the
    educated than on the uneducated is that educated people read
    more, so they receive more propaganda.  Another is that they
    have jobs in management, media, and academia and therefore
    work in some capacity as agents of the propaganda system -
    and they believe what the system expects them to believe.

    Message: 54558
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: U.S. Propaganda
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 17:44:59

    By and large, they're part of the privileged elite, and share
    the interests and perceptions of those in power.
      On the other hand, the government had problems in
    controlling the opinions of the general population.
    According to some of the latest polls, over 70 percent of
    Americans still thought the war was, to quote the Gallup
    Poll, "fundamentally wrong and immoral, not a mistake."
      Due to the widespread opposition to the Vietnam War, the
    propaganda system lost its grip on the beliefs of many
    Americans.  They grew skeptical about what they were told.
    In this case there's even a name for the erosion of belief.
    It's called the "Vietnam Syndrome," a grave disease in the
    eyes of America's elites because people understand too much.

    Message: 54559
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last 100
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 19:47:13

    How ASSinine

    Message: 54560
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Nickelodeon
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 22:56:33

    Though you are right (that children should be instructed about other parties
    and voting independent), could you tally how many of those kids would vote
    for Ron Paul? To be honest, it would look bad for him, and could subject him
    to ridicule from future voters. What's worse, absence and honor, or presence
    and disgrace?

    Message: 54561
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/54551
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 05:02:07

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     1:        If there are three or more parties, each should have the same
     2:benefits, each should be allowed in the debate.  If one or more looks silly
     3:and is ridiculed then we can just ignore them.  One has to go out of their
     4:way in order to find out about other parties and this isn't fair.
     5:        I still think the 'machine' controls both Demo and Rep. parties and
     6:won't allow equal time (or even a little time) to the others.
     7:        Well, that was 2 cents.
     8:                                Rod
     9:end

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    Message: 54561
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/54551
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 05:02:07

    Considering some recent entries of yours, I can't believe you jumped on Ann
    for that joke!
    Talk about a Self Righteous SIG for me! How about a HYPocritical SIG for
    your own exclusive use?
    Personally, I see no reason for either on a family board, but her dumb joke
    is far preferable to your name calling.

    Message: 54562
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT/your joke
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:27:38

    That was funny to a degree. However, the secret to a good joke is 'the fewer
    words the better with a good punch line'!
    By the way - I know where mine is! Do you? I left mine in Taylor Arizona in
    1982! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54563
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mike/last 101
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:28:11

    And you have just contributed! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54564
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: War!
    Subject: Paul Savage
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 10:46:30

            I did NOT jump on Ann for her Joke... I was talking about posts in
    general... and even called them CUTE!  If you want to get into name calling
    and that is what you seem best at...  I have had my fill of the name calling
    you give Reagan alone... You are in fact very Hypocritical and Self
    Righteous...   And I do not work on "Found On Road Dead" cars or trucks!
    Besides, from my past experiance of you, you would want a handout for a
    repair... Paying any money for honest work would be the last thing on your
    mind.
            Where was My name calling of Ann?  Or were you STILL refering to
    what I think of the Democratic Baby Killers Platform...(your party)?  I do
    not wish to use that word again on this SIG... And was only trying to
    discorage that with the post you jumped on me about...but the name I called
    them still stands.
            Paul, Next to Rod, you are the most hatefull person I know!

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 54565
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:17:22

    Don't worry Cliff - he'll grow out of it.

    Message: 54566
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff "Ford"
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 13:06:04

    It may be found on the road dead but it is usually first on race day...
    Atleast we don't have any chrysler products!!

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    Message: 54567
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last...
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 13:12:14

            I can honestly say I NEVER lost to a FORD on a money run!

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    P.S.  By the way, if there were no Dodge or Plymouth cars, Ford would be my
    next choice!

    Message: 54568
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Oudin
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 17:03:00

    Sigh.

    Message: 54569
    Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/Ford
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 17:38:22

    Cliff,

       I'm with you....if there were no Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge.....Chevy,
    Buick, Pontiac, or Honda Civics.....a Ford car would be my next choice.

    (LL)oyd  Pulley

    Message: 54570
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: U.S. Propaganda
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 18:06:16

      Let me give one more example of the powerful propaganda
    system at work in the U.S. - the congressional vote on contra
    aid in March 1986.  For the three months prior to the vote,
    the administration was heating up the political atmosphere,
    trying to reverse the congressional restrictions on aid to
    the terrorist army that's attacking Nicaragua.
      I was interested in how the media was going to respond to
    the administration campaign for the contras.  So I studied
    two national newspapers, the *Washington Post* and the *New
    York Times*.  In January, February, and March, I went through
    every one of their editorials, opinion pieces, and the
    columns written by their own columnists.  There were 85
    pieces.  Of these, all were anti-Sandinista.  On that issue,
    no discussion was tolerable.
      There are two striking facts about the Sandinista
    government, as compared with our allies in Central America -
    Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador.  One is that the
    Sandinista government doesn't slaughter its population.
    That's a well-recognized fact.  Second, Nicaragua is the only
    one of those countries in which the government has tried to
    direct social services to the poor.  This too is not a matter
    of debate; it is conceded on all sides to be true.
      On the other hand, our allies Guatemala and El Salvador
    are among the world's worst terrorist states.  So far in the

    Message: 54571
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: U.S. Propaganda
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 18:14:37

    1980s they have slaughtered over 150,000 of their own
    citizens, with U.S. support.  These nations do little for
    their populations except torture, terrorize, and kill them.
      Honduras is a little different.  In Honduras there's a
    government of the rich that robs the poor.  It doesn't kill
    on the scale of El Salvador or Gualtemala, but a large part
    of the population is starving to death.
      So in examining the 85 articles, I also looked for those
    two facts about Nicaragua.  The fact that the Sandinistas
    are radically different from our Central American allies in
    that they don't slaughter their population was not mentioned
    once.  That they have carried out social reforms for the
    poor was referred to in two phrases, both buried.  Two
    phrases in 85 columns on one crucial issue, zero phrases in
    85 columns on another.
      That's really remarkable control over thought on a highly
    debated issue.  After that I went through all the editorials
    on El Salvador and Nicaragua in the *New York Times* from
    1980 to the present; it's essentially the same story.

    Message: 54572
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 22:50:26

    I think the Miskito Indians would take issue with the claim that the
    Sandinistas don't slaughter their population.

    Message: 54573
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/vote
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:26:57

            If there are three or more parties, each should have the same
    benefits, each should be allowed in the debate.  If one or more looks silly
    and is ridiculed then we can just ignore them.  One has to go out of their
    way in order to find out about other parties and this isn't fair.
            I still think the 'machine' controls both Demo and Rep. parties and
    won't allow equal time (or even a little time) to the others.
            Well, that was 2 cents worth.
                                    Rod

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     1:                 I depend on an automobile for my living as I do quite a bit
     2:of driving and I have a mobile service.  I service the auto industry and
     3:many of my friends are car lot owners.  I have been doing this for the past
     4:12 years.
     5:        According to the dealers the Chrysler 225, slant six engine is the
     6:most durable engine in current use for the nation.  The most durable
     7:internation engine is the Volvo.  In 12 years of using the slant six, I have
     8:had one engine break down, ONE.  I did have a Ford Van for a little under a
     9:year and I had a hard time keeping it running.  Perhaps that particular one
    10:was a lemon, I don't know.
    11:end

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     1:        Gee, you must be thinking of Russia, we don't do anything like that
     2:(grin).
     3:end

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    Message: 54576
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/3rd Party
    Date: 10/11/88  Time: 00:01:44

    If someone truly wants to learn about a third party, it's not all that hard
    to go out and find out about it. I guess that exposes the apathy that runs
    rampant in our country, though. Which is learned from childhood. Which
    brings us back to your original comment. What a horrible circle it is, too.

    Message: 54577
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/Lumping Demos
    Date: 10/11/88  Time: 00:06:25

    I resent your lumping all Democrats into the same mold. I for one, am a
    Democrat, and I oppose abortion. Furthermore, I hate being mass-categorized
    as a "baby-killer Democrat." Many of the Ku Klux Klan consider themselves
    Republican in their political philosophies, but you don't see me tagging you
    a "racist Republican." Just putting in my two cents. I'll continue to bug
    off now.

    Message: 54578
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Engines
    Date: 10/11/88  Time: 00:28:01

    I would have to say that the most popular by production # would be the Chevy
    small block 305 and 350's thereby making them the least expensive to keep
    running.  I myself have a 250 L-6 in my 81 GMC 1/2t P/U that I have had not
    one problem with...  Then again I maintain it like clock work.  It is an 85
    model 250 that had 22,000 miles on it when I put it in, it also has 7 main
    bearings instead of 5 like the 225 Chrysler engine.  I have Bosch platinum
    plugs in it along with an Accel HEI Super coil for about 50,000 volts of
    spark.  It has a 2bbl progressive Rochester carburator(sp).  I have 273:1
    gear ratio in the rear for a 21 mph (avg.) highway and about 13 mph (avg.)
    in town which is bad.  When I get the money I am going to put in 3.08:1 or
    3.42:1.  I had the transmission rebuilt with a shift kit and torque
    converter, it is bullet proof.  The truck is better than new.  It has a
    completely new front end, tie rod ends inner, outer, pitman and idler arms,
    upper and lower bushings and lower control arms.  Rebuilt P/S gearbox, new
    heater core, gas shocks all the way around, brakes, master cylinder among
    alot of other things.  Another words it oughta get me another 100,000 miles
    without anymore MAJOR problems.  The straight and slant 6 engines are the
    best out of the L-4's and V-6 and 8's becuse they are ALOT easier to work
    on, they have more torque at a very much lower RPM (due to the LONG stroke)
    and generally speaking they run cooler.  I love my truck!

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                                       6 October, 1988

    Congressman Jon Kyl
    313 Cannon House Office Bldg.
    Washington, D.C. 20515

    Dear Congressman Kyl:

         In your message on drug abuse, I hope you are including
    alcohol as it is the number one killer, far ahead of all other
    dangerous substances.  I have a copy of a report, presented by
    you, concerning our national drug problem.  After careful reading
    I have concluded that you will not receive my vote in the upcoming
    elections.

         This nations drug abuse problem will not be solved by methods
    you propose.  You could build a prison on every block in the
    country, make every other person an officer of the law and still
    not get anywhere except to financially and morally ruin us.  Many
    soldiers, policemen and politicians are drug abusers.  What then,
    will only the affluent be able to afford illegal drugs?

         You do not take a diseased person and lock them in a cell as a
    cure.  You find the cause of the disease and attack it on a
    logical level.  People abuse drugs because they have stresses that
    cannot be dealt with by ordinary means.  The have-nots are the
    biggest users.  They are the people who are living from hand-to-
    mouth, the people who find they cannot live in a society which
    values paper dollars over most everything else.  Our world is
    really out of hand when you consider that the money required to
    provide adequate food, water, education, health and housing for
    everyone in the world was estimated at 17 billion dollars a
    year.....or about as much as the world spends on arms every two
    weeks.

         Mankind has not yet shown enough intelligence, as a whole, to
    be considered a good race of animals.  We need more practice.

         Drug abuse is one thing but drug use is something else
    entirely.  Humans have been using substances to relax or enhance
    their outlook from our beginning.  When a substance is illegal it
    is often desired more by an unhappy population.  If the
    establishment says, don't do it, it will be done anyway.  As with
    prohibition, many people stopped their thrill drinking when
    alcohol became legal again.  I do not drink now but I did at one
    time and that was when it was illegal.  I used to get drunk as a
    juvenile and do stupid things as it was a thrill, a way of
    rebelling against the authorities who had left us such a sorry
    world.  When I turned 21, I then knew I was allowed but I no
    longer wanted to.  I am certainly NOT a singular incident.  Quite
    a few of our population feel they are being taken advantage of by
    their officials or to put it another way, and it is not
    necessarily how I feel, but many feel they are working class
    slaves.  They feel this way because they are poor, have little or
    no hope of ever having anything worth while and to them life is a
    gigantic economic struggle.  To them, buying a house or a new car
    is a joke.  Everyone wants to take what little money they have,
    they must protect themselves with deadbolts and weapons in order
    to just survive.  Many of these people are your 'crack' smokers
    and heroin abusers.  It is their only thrill in this life, save
    for sex.

          Many of them have members of their family in prison for
    being involved with illegal drugs.  This makes that segment rebel
    even more and understandably so.  I don't know if you have ever
    smoked marijuana but I have.  It is a very mellow substance that
    has the properties of relaxation, not making one want to kill and
    rob.  I personally know fellow work mates who have started using
    cocaine simply because they could not find  pot.  People, all
    people use some substance or other to relax, be it alcohol,
    prescription pills, cigarettes, or some of dad's after shave.  You
    can never take that away.

         I am for the legalization of all drugs although I do have
    reservations about some of the harder substances like heroin or
    opium.  I think it is the right of the people to decide what they
    put in themselves and not the right of the state.  I say this with
    some prior knowledge, as Holland, for the past 10 years, has had
    legalized drugs and I might add with very good results.

         The billions of U.S. dollars being spent on control could be
    put to much better use by solving the cause of the problem.  The
    billions of U. S. dollars going to foreign nations would, for the
    most part, remain in this nation in the hands of the people.  We
    give Mexico enough of our money every year to purchase the land
    that President Jackson took from them by an act of war.  Combine
    that with what we give South America, we could lose our American
    Democracy in the coming years over this.

         I will wait to hear your answer before going ahead with a
    plan to actively campaign against you or anyone with such a stance
    that usurps the rights of the citizens of this country.

         In a parting thought, it seems to me that those who oppose
    the legalization of drugs the most may just be profiting the most
    from them.

                                       Sincerely,

                                       Charles R. Williams
                                       2702 N. Dayton Street
                                       Phoenix, Arizona 85006

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    Message: 375
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Sandy/SUCK
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 18:44:16

    Come over some time, Sandy, and I'll give you free sample.

    Message: 376
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Hawley Crock Smith
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/09/88  Time: 22:57:49

    I doubt she'd want to rendezvous with you in the Phantom Zone.

    Message: 377
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Dear Sandy
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:49:29

    But I thought James had already castrated himself when he delivered the last
    big THANG??? Who else could that have come off of? =*--Annie the ASSp--*=
    P.S. When is the next story gonna start? It doesn't have to be a lewd one or
    gorey! I just hope more people contribute to it - NOT 'one liners' either.
    =*--Annie the ASSp--*=

    Message: 378
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: Adress
    Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:52:02

    Wher do you live? Iwill bring lots of disks.
                          The Old Fart Ralph

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     1:        Look you old fart, if you had any intelligence, you'd know that I
     2:currently live on Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, USA, Arizona, Phoenix,
     3:2702 N. Dayton St. or 1034 E. Windsor (both the same house).  Gee, I thought
     4:everyone knew that.
     5:        My phone number has seven digits, they are between and including the
     6:numerals 1-0.  One number is 277-5058 and the other is 266-0747.  I am home
     7:when I am here but when I am not here I am gone.  I have a voice pager and
     8:its number is 270-2712.  It give you a 10 second space to insert your voice
     9:message.  The best message I know of is to repeat your phone number twice.
    10:I will return your call.
    11:        What kind of computer do you have?  I have an Atari ST and I use the
    12:3.5 disks, double sided and if this is not compatable with yours then I will
    13:give you a printout of same.
    14:        Like I said, you are an old fart.  (How is the hell can you  be old
    15:if time doesn't exist?)
    16:                                        Rod
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