### Apollo BBS Archive - August 21, 1989

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    If the terrorists kill any more hostages:

    [A] We should use our military might to punish those involved even if it
        means a few innocent civilians get killed.
    [B] We should try to step up more talks with the terrorists.
    [C] We should give the terrorists weapons or money to try and buy back the
        hostages.
    [D] We should kidnap a few of their people and hang them when they hang
        or kill any of ours.  (Eye for an Eye)
    [E] Do nothing like we do now......

    How do you vote [A-E] or [CR] to abort:$

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    Message: 3351
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 17:29:29

            What are you doing with a ball?

            Quite 1/2 Assin' around. If you insist on having a ball ----
    have two.

    Message: 3352
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Dandy Sandy/ball
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 08:31:46

    Actually, you can keep the ball! I don't know where it's been! Heh.
                                 -=*) ANN (*=-

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    Message: 325
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 17:31:43

            To keep everything the same, Rod, we will ignore your post as
    usual.

    Message: 326
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 19:09:59

    That's exactly the same sort of thing you were saying when I first met you
    five years ago.

    Message: 327
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: Grrrr
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 20:46:57

            Keep the the Pro/Anti Church talk off this SIG!

    Another note...  The 26th (Saturday) is the Get-Together.  This does NOT
    fall on the Labor Day weekend.  (That's the following weekend)
    I still don't seem to be getting the word on who is going to come and who
    ain't...  It is looking BLEAK!

    Address info...  Bell Rd. to 37th Ave, Turn north about two blocks.
    I am right on the north west corner where 3702 W Danbury intersects with
    37th Ave.

    Any Questions?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 328
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 07:31:30

    I'll be there no matter who comes or who boycotts.

    Message: 329
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/GT
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 08:33:23

    I WILL be there!!!! -=*) Ann (*=-

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    Message: 332
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 20:52:10

    Im on my way now.

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    Message: 60479
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Savage on Beachum
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 19:42:10

    Are you a subscriber to "Technical Difficulties," by any chance?

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    Message: 60458
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/60455
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 19:08:33

    And if he broke down and cried, you'd know he was sensitive and thus not
    deserving of being killed.

    Message: 60459
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Joan Woods
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 19:08:57

    Good point.  Any literate person knows the correct phrase is "youse people."

    Message: 60460
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Vote
    Subject: Old [V]ote
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 21:00:49

    The NEW Stealth B-2 bomber ?

    [A] Yes, we should have it in our national defense arsenal.

    [B] No, we do not need this over priced weapon system.

    [C] Undecided, I don't know yet.

    Poll results to date:
    [A] 14   [B] 10   [C] 8

            I gather the above vote shows we may be pro-hawk, but it is hard to
    tell with so many 'Undecided' votes....  and that is why I perfer just 'YES'
    and 'NO' type Vote questions.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 60461
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul Savage
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 21:39:25

    Was it you I hear ranting and raving about pit bulls on the radio the other
    day?  I hope you recorded it and listened to yourself afterwards, as you
    came off rather poorly.

    RE: Advice concerning my trip.

    I am expecting to take possession of small arms upon my arrival, and will
    attempt to stay out of harms way.  And thanks for reminding me about
    Salman's book, I almost took it to read on the plane.

    See you all in a few weeks.

    Message: 60462
    Author: Brock Avon
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 60443,46,48
    Date: 08/20/89  Time: 22:14:43

    Sigh.

    Message: 60463
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last/sigh?
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 00:33:10

            You don't lock your doors while driving...  Mistake number ONE! I
    lock mine out of habit...every time! Beer on the outside will wash off...
    He should have never gotten inside so easily.

            I do carry a weapon in view most of the time.  It is my right
    according to the Constitution.  I use the "reasonable man" policy.
    A reasonable man will not make aggressions against one wearing a gun unless
    s/he is looking for trouble.

            I avoid "bad" parts of town when I can.  I do NOT look for trouble.
    If I see a JDLR, I head the other direction.  So why the "Sigh"?

    (A JDLR = Just Doesn't Look Right)

            Sounds like you were in condition 'white' to get yourself into such
    a situation.  Oh person of many names, would you care to go to a school that
    teaches such things.... and how to avoid such confrontations.

            However, I am pleased you were not hurt, but next time you might not
    be so lucky.  Thanks for sharing your story on the board, it did generate
    some participation from the users.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 60464
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: just saying...
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 02:02:30

    Hi! to all of you. Great to see all the old familiar names, except AproPoet,
    what happened to him?

    Did I happen to miss out on Classic Apollo this year?

    That's what I get for running around the country. Just returned from hopping
    the San Juan Islands near Seattle. What a place!  Wow!  What a place!  To
    return to 108 degrees was traumatic, to say the least. However, did anyone
    happen to step outside tonight?  Cool!!!! It should make the headlines, or
    something.

    I captured everything in the buffer (pulling Rod's line, but it's true) so
    can't remark on anything pertinent yet. But it didn't look like there were
    any religious wars or wars of any kind.  Nice touch, Good Sysop, for sure.

    Sure miss my 2400 baud modem at times like this, but I sacrificed it to my
    BBS, in case you didn't know.

    It was like being in a time-warp to see Spaz on here. Hope she doesn't stay
    away long.

    Peace and stuff to all of you.

    Carol->

    Message: 60465
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: The SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: hite pages
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 05:30:33

            Hey guys, a lot of you have changed computers or your phone
    numbers...  Will you PLEASE update this info in your hite Pages.
    I was just there looking up Paul Savage and saw it still lists him as a CoCo
    with 64K....  I do believe he has another computer.  Phone numbers need not
    be listed, but please update what you can...it only takes a few seconds.
    (Don't worry, you won't drown)  However, I do encourage you too put in your
    phone number.  The Crazy days of years past seem to be over.  I have not
    heard of any phone complaints.  And remember, ONLY other $tatus users have
    access to the hite pages.

            Thanks!

                    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 60466
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rep. Beachum
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 06:07:24

    So Rep. Beachum wants to replace the motto, the flag, stamps and Uncle Sam.
    Sounds to me like the only thing that needs replacing is Rep. Beachum.
    As to stamps, they change quite often, as new designs are submitted and
    accepted. (Some of them are the world's ugliest stamps according to
    philatelists). The rest are age old traditions and symbols, and should
    remain so.
    I guess that's about the best we can expect from someone from New England,
    eh?
    (And for that, Bush wants to give them all a fat raise!)

    Message: 60467
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 06:09:32

    I never slant my honest, forthright wonderful posts. I merely state my
    honest opinions about things, such as the horrible nonsense you put on the
    board.(smile)

    Message: 60468
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob on police women
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 08:30:24

    Re: "It was a mistake to ever place females in this position in the first
    place.
    If I ever need help from the police, I hope they don't send a 5 foot 100
    pound petite female to help me out." .....
    I used to think that way but have since changed my mind. There is a family
    that lives near that has four teenage punk rocker and a bunch of their
    friends over all the time. They are totally un disciplined. I happened to go
    out front just when a police car pulled up in front of their house - the
    punks were sitting on the lawn. Before they could get away,  the two police
    got out of the car and nabbed one of them. (I do not know what he did!) The
    police that did the nabbing was as you discribed - a woman about 5 foot,
    weighing 100 lbs. The punk came up swinging, but before he could hit his
    mark, she had him slung against a tree trunk, his hands behind his back and
    cuffed. The other policeman made sure the others (3) did not interfer. As
    she forced him into the police car, one of the others hit the policeman and
    knocked him too his knees. The police woman shoves the cuffed one in the car
    and in one movement, hits the guy with her billy club and he fell on the
    ground moaning. The policeman then cuffed him and they took both of them
    away! She could protect me anytime!!  From that time on, I had more respect
    for women police! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 60469
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 11:54:29

    You are such an expert on name calling.  I bet you win all kind of debates.

    Message: 60470
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 12:02:37

    Re:  "She could protect me anytime!"

    She sure sounds qualified from your story.  There are exceptions to all
    things more or less.  Still, all things considered, I would prefer a 200
    pound male to a 100 pound female to help out when I need protection.

    Message: 60471
    Author: Ralph Norton
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carol/cool
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 17:33:37

    Yes, it wasn't actually any cooler last night than it has been
    on average, recently.  But the humidity was down to eleven percent.  It
    really IS the humidity, not the heat, that makes it so unbearable during the
    "dog days".

    Message: 60472
    Author: Ralph Norton
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff/sigh
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 17:35:59

    "Sigh..." was meant to convey the fact that the message about the "young
    black toughs" was intended to be a joke.  Geez, you guys, haven't you ever
    seen that "Gatorade" commercial?

    Message: 60473
    Author: Ralph Norton
    Category: Joke
    Subject: Paul and Bob
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 17:39:41

    Heh, by George, Waldo, I think they've found a replacement for Jim Backus.

    Message: 60474
    Author: Eddie Larue
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob T./correction
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 18:06:43

    Bob, it has come to my attention that, to my great personal shame, I have
    given you some erroneous information.
    I said that Kareem Abdul Jabbar, prior to his conversion to the Muslim
    religion, had been named Cassius Clay.  Actually, his real name was George
    Foreman, but he was better known to affectionate fans as "Dr. J." (short for
    "Jabbar").

    I hope this helps!

    Message: 60475
    Author: Eddie Larue
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: A World Of Ideas
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 18:09:21

    Bill Moyers: "Out of all this vast array of stories is there one that you
    find most gripping, that you think speaks to us today?"

    Martha Nussbaum ("Classicist and Philosopher"): "I wake up at night thinking
    about Euripides' Hecuba..."

    Excuse me for one moment...

    Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

    Message: 60476
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carol
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 19:20:18

    Welcome back.  You were missed.

    Message: 60477
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul/slant
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 19:20:44

    I was just being honest in my post.

    Message: 60478
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bad area of town
    Date: 08/21/89  Time: 19:32:49

            This morning I went to 20th Av. and Cocopah Streets to make a key
    for a Datsun.  This address is (smack) in the middle of the projects.  After
    making the key, and giving him a bill for $20, this kid hands me a Fifty
    dollar bill like it was nothing.  The time I was there I noticed a lot of
    cars pulling up and talking with these kids about something or other.  A few
    things were exchanged from time to time but I didn't see exactly what it
    was.

            In any case I managed to have a conversation with one of the people
    about 'why society is so drug-ridden and falling apart.'  I haven't got the
    full conversation 'set' in my mind at this time but the 'gist' of it is:

    "Who in the hell wants to join society the way it is?  If I followed the
    main road then I could look forward to having a job for the rest of my life
    with two weeks off each year and always have these big bills to pay.  The
    life of the average person, the majority, is pitiful to say the least.  Yes,
    a few 'make it' but the overwhelming majority of us (blacks) end up at
    McDonalds or Taco Bell or some other job that just allows (us) to barely elk
    out a living for the remainder of our lives.  The current society, social
    system can just go straight to hell.  It is no fun and isn't even decent.
    It is the rich white people who need economic slaves and they try to train
    us to do their dirty work.  I'd rather make $500 a day that $25."

    I'll go over my notes some more and see if I left anything out.  -Rod