### Apollo BBS Archive - July 20, 1991

    Mail from Melissa Dee
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:57:54

    Ok, relaid your message to Dog.  Hope to make it out to Mppha. tomorrow
    night.  Sounds like a lot of interesting people will be there.
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:Tell Dog that his message on the main board about being able to sleep late
     2:and read the paper on Sunday was great.  Both Petrisko and I cracked up when
     3:we read it.  Should win some sort of prize.
     4:
     5:See you Sunday, eh.
     6:

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    Message: 7645
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean #7640
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:29:10

    That is excellent! It's too simple though! Would solve too much for
    Washington to handle! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 7646
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Videos
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:52:42

    I'll borrow them sometime so I can make a copy and study them at my
    leisure.

    Message: 7647
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 13:07:34

    "Complete Paranoia is Complete Awareness" is great.  I will make a button
    and if there are enough aware people that buys one then I'll make a
    silk-screen.

    Message: 7648
    Author: $ Green Lantern
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Daryl/Gen 1,2
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 14:48:39

    I take it you are a gap-Creationist  ?

    End of the Universe Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 1907
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff/Sandy
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:19:33

     For whom is Sandy working the ambulance? I think that's great! She is to be
    congratulated! That gal is a constant source of amazement. Raises two kids
    to be real gentlemen, attains expert status in gun handling, and is now a
    qualified EMT. Some sort of woman!

    Message: 1908
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last by Paul
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 16:09:37

            Thank you Paul...  Re: 'Some sort of woman!'   I think soo too!

    She is working at P.M.T.   I THINK that stands for Profesional Medical
    Transport.

    Public Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 76849
    Author: Mark Adkins
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Hello & G-bye again
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 04:01:12

    ...I've developed an unhealthy fascination with Leo McKern's neck wattles.

    Message: 76849
    Author: Mark Adkins
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Hello & G-bye again
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 04:01:12

    ...I've developed an unhealthy fascination with Leo McKern's neck wattles.

    Message: 76850
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie/solicitors
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:42:13

    Computerized solicitors are easily spotted. They don'T get past the first
    sentence before I hang up.

    Message: 76851
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie/smoking
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:44:40

     6 months, and you plan to resume the addiction? Oh well, it's your lungs
    and your blood stream and your heart, and your life, I guess. Suicide by
    ingestion is still legal, unfortunately. (Depending on the poison ingested,
    of course.)

    Message: 76852
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie on the Bible
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:48:15

     Frankly, I don't have an answer in my head for the Timothy quote, Ann. I
    will look it up and see what gives, though. I do know that virtually every
    church that I am aware of has women in teaching positions, and many have
    priests and/or pastors of the feminine gender, so if the Pauline quote is to
    be taken literally, there are a lot of churches that don't, that's for sure.

    Message: 76853
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Politics
    Subject: $23,200
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:52:13

     THat's the figure of the pay raise, not $25,000. It was passed by the
    senate (FOR the senate, of course) the other evening, AFTER the late news
    broadcasts, and AFTER most of the press had left the capitol area for the
    night.
     Who said this was a government BY and FOR the people? Looks like it's about
    time for a tax revolt that would make the Boston tea party look like a lone
    ant at a picnic!
    $125,000 a year, plus perks, for what they do up there, is absolutely
    obscene!

    Message: 76854
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Michael James/76823
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:53:51

     Get a business line, Michael. Believe me, you will hear from all the phone
    solicitors you will ever want!

    Message: 76855
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:01:38

     I have no problem with  your rules, and have tried to abide by them all in
    all the time I have been here on Apollo. I have no particular problem with
    the handles that some users use regularly (B. Dog for example).
     If I may say so without incurring your wrath, however, I do have a problem
    with the way that Roger Mann stated that if he was ever put in the zone, he
    would never log back in under the name of Roger Mann, and then you allowed
    him to pull the sneaky trick and come back the next day under the Green
    Lantern handle. That was nothing less than playing footsie with the rules
    for his own advantage. It was, in my opinion, underhanded, sneaky and
    unethical.
     I still love ya, though, and I never made any rash statements about leaving
    the board if things didn't go my way. I value Apollo far too much to do
    that, or even threaten to do that.

    Message: 76856
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/Central Ave.
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:04:59

     Central Ave. is indeed a public thoroughfare, accessible to all the
    citizenry. Whether or not it is permissable to cruise the street, tying up
    traffic and causing damage to business and personal property there, however,
    is yet another matter. What it will probably boil down to will be who wields
    the most power, the businessmen along Central, or the cruisers.

    Message: 76857
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Daryl on customs
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:11:29

     I would tend to agree with you re: women preachers. Unfortunately, many,
    many churches, including yours, have and do ordain women to the ministry.
     When it comes to such matters, I'm willing to let God sort it out when the
    time is right, as I'm sure He will.

    Message: 76858
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:20:20

    Re:  displaying the very same sort of sarcastic garbage that made Mann
    famous

    Don't you mean "infamous?"

    Message: 76859
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: Thad
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:32:03

    Re:  Yes, there are violent criminals who should be kept apart from society,
    but who do not deserve death. Crimes of assault and battery, (perhaps
    including rape)

    There are degrees of rape.  I have long thought that any violent rape should
    be punished by death.  I think some would think all rape is violent rape.  I
    am amazed at the passivity the female population seems to have toward rape.
    If they would bond together they could pass almost any reasonable law they
    want.  They make up over 50% of the population.

    What about it ladies?

    Message: 76860
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:35:38

    Re:  Man is the only animal who covers up, embarrassed or ashamed

    I don't think any animal except man is capable of being embarrassed,
    ashamed, or a number of other human emotions.

    Message: 76861
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:37:20

    Re:  Hell, I was born nude and so was everyone else.  What's the big deal?

    If you feel so strong about it, why don't you run around naked?  Just cause
    it's against the law shouldn't bother you.  It doesn't with pot.

    Message: 76862
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Dog
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:40:49

    Re:  embarrassing Bible quote

    What "quote" are we talking about?  I'm not aware of anything in the Bible
    that's embarrassing to me.

    Message: 76863
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:42:47

    Re:  "Green Mann" and "Roger Lantern"

    Hey Cliff, why don't you clear up the confusion and simply say, "The Green
    Lantern is not Roger Mann."

    Message: 76864
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Peaches
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:46:44

    Re:  I think also that because doctors have modern medicine at their
    fingertips

    Did you hear on the news that congress is thinking of passing a law that
    would put doctors in jail if they continue to treat patients without telling
    them they (the doctors) have AIDS?  The only comments against it were by the
    doctors.  (I'm sure the homos will object, but they weren't on the news."

    Message: 76865
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Peaches
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:48:19

    Re:  All I know is, no matter what they are selling, whether I wish for
    their product with all my heart, I would not buy it on principle alone!

    We also made that decision a long time ago!

    Message: 76866
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Peaches
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:50:51

    Re:  What do you all think about the $25,000 pay raise the senators voted in
    for themselves?

    I think it stinks!  How typical of them.  But everyone keeps voting the same
    ones back in again.  I say vote the suckers out!

    Message: 76867
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:05:56

    Re:  People who believe in it are living way in the past. Too bad.

    Let's see now, anyone who believes something established in the past is
    living in the past.  Hmmmmmm.  According to that, anyone who believes in the
    law of gravity is living in the past.  There must be another thousand
    examples out there.

    Message: 76868
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:10:38

    Re:  I, in all honesty see it as a vile and filthy thing that is corrupting
    our youth.

    I'm sure you can give us an example.  How about something from the 10
    Commands?  Something vile and filthy that is corrupting our youth.  It is
    very difficult to take you seriously when you talk about God.  I would think
    you were joking if you were not so vilifying.

    Message: 76869
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Green on phone
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:44:16

    I just butt in and tell them I'm not interested and hang up the phone.

    I wish I could say that the frequency of phone solicitation has gone down!
                                 *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 76870
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Doggy on names
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:46:39

    Thanks for telling me what Cliff objected to re: alias. Sorry Cliff! I
    thought you you said NO alias at one time. *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 76871
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff on Zone
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:51:16

    Well ... I can see your dilemma regarding the Zone - but I don't see where
    what Pauley or Roger said could compare to the name calling Mike did. Just
    my opinion! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 76872
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cat on AIDS
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:16:06

    It's about time they started telling their patients they have AIDS!
    It seems there has been some strange underground plot to stiffle the dangers
    of AIDS - to make it appear like it's no big deal - after all, you can't get
    it by touching another person, etc. etc. But the disease is going 'up' and
    we fail to see that. I don't think they know all about the disease yet if
    they ever will. If I were going to go to a doctor, I'd certainly want to
    know if he had it or not and I would not go to him!!! I also wouldn't go to
    him if he were a herion or cocaine addict either. I might have friends that
    do those things, but not someone I put my life in their hands!

    Many years ago I had a dentist cut himself slightly while he had his hand in
    my mouth - maybe on a sharp piece of tooth he was trying to extract - he
    must have bled ever so slightly in my mouth. What if he had AIDS? I'm not a
    professional on the disease, but I do know that it's fatal! I want no part
    of it! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 76873
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Daryl/black pen
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:43:35

    Don't forget the version for the "literalists" who ignore most of Leviticus
    and other laws of the OT.  "I came not to change the Law, but to fulfill it"

    Message: 76874
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Felix/embarrassing
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:49:22

    Do you feel comfortable worshipping a God who would send bears out of the
    woods to attack little children?  When all they did was taunt one of His
    minions for having a bald pate?

    Message: 76875
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Daryl Interprets
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:04:13

    > The Bible is it's own interpreter.

    Then how is it that there are so many different interpretations?  Oh, wait!
    I see:  Those that don't interpret the bible as you do are obviously
    sinners, damned to hell.  That clears things up considerably.

    Message: 76876
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Daryl's Sexist!
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:04:34

    > Ann doesn't understand the answer because she's not asking the
    > right questions.

    I'm not sure what I said that prompted your reply, but if it was in
    reference to the discussion about what the biblical Paul had to say re
    women, I'd say Ann's understanding your answers quite well:  Christians who
    believe the bible word-for-word are sexist.  I have to agree with Ann that
    the writings of Paul has poisoned Christianity in this regard.  And that has
    to call the entire idea of biblical infallibility into question.

    Message: 76877
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Green-Probation
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:04:57

    No, I don't have any specifics on intensive probation; not handy anyway.
    I'd have to dig into my inactive files and I'd just as soon not.

    I spent an evening riding with a probation officer as he made his rounds,
    checking on the probationers he was assigned to.  They also check with
    probationers' employers and schools to make sure probationers are doing what
    they're supposed to be doing, and can make them submit to random urinalysis
    at any time.

    Although I don't remember any of the statistical details, I can say I was
    very impressed.

    And I'm usually pretty skeptical about such programs.

    Message: 76878
    Author: Thad Coons
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Bible Supplement
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:49:09

    Have your ever read the Book of Mormon?

    Message: 76879
    Author: Thad Coons
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Doctors
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:56:11

    I don't see why any health professional with an infectious disease
    should be allowed to practice as long as he (or she) has the disease.
    It is shameful that the issues of civil rights, discrimination, and
    privacy are so involved: Why should AIDS be an exception to any other
    disease, just because homosexuals often get and transmit it?

    Message: 76880
    Author: Thad Coons
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Bears & bald pate
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 11:01:30

    Is it possible that the word or phrase translated "children" could mean
    youths? Like most accounts of such things, there may have been a lot
    of other things said, which were not recorded. If these "children"
    were mocking something more significant than a bald head, that might
    give a different interpretation to the incident.
    Message: 76881
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 12:29:31

    I printed out your two posts on women and the Bible just so I
    wouldn't make any mistakes in what you said - or I should say - what
    the Bible says because you certainly do not have much of a mind of
    your own! I cannot and do not believe that all Christians believe
    the way you do. I cannot believe that all Christian wives believe it
    either. It is things such as this that keep me thinking how much man
    has corrupted the Bible - added things that have nothing to do with
    God or His word - such as what I belive Paul did! Not only did he
    add what society dictated in that day and age - but his own
    prejudice.
    I cannot conceive of any intelligent person NOT questioning some of
    the Bible.  Re: this subject - have you never ask yourself .....

    ....Are the souls of man and woman the same in God's eye - look the
    same to Him - mean as much to Him? Does He want the woman sinner to
    be saved as badly as a man?

    .... Did Jesus die horribly on the cross for women as well as men?

    .... Is the Ten Commandments for women to follow also?

    Please do not answer these questions with Bible quotes. I want YOUR
    answers!!

    If you answered 'YES' to any of those questions, I ask you ....
    then what does it matter who is head of the household?  Who sinned
    first? Who has long hair or short? Who preaches in the Temples,
    churches, etc? Who keeps silent in church? Or that woman was born of
    man? Or that women are subjected to their mates?  Or if the widow
    stays unmarried or not? What has ANY of this to do with salvation?
    Christ dying on the cross? Heaven? God? Have you never questioned
    Paul? Any of this? Why not? It is so obvious to me that none of it
    is from God that sent His son down to die for us all! We make Him
    sound 'trite' with all this garbage. He was no 'distinguisher' - why
    are you?

    If Paul was guided by God's hand - then why, in his letter to the
    Roman's does he tell them the slave's souls are just as important as
    theirs - yet fails to tell them to set the slaves free??? This has
    puzzled me for years.

    So how come with women in 'their given role's are so much more
    restrictive than men in their roles? You know - with their silence
    in church - their 'vail of hair', their subjugation to men?

    You really believe that "Eve caused Adam to sin"? (your quote) They
    were both weak as far as I can see Daryl, not just Eve - and lets
    look at it another way - she was tempted by Mr. Biggie - the Devil
    himself.  Who could resist that temptation? But ole Adam was only
    tempted by a lowly women, yet he succumbed just as redily didn't he?
    BTW - did she twist his arm? Refuse him sex or what to convince him?
    I will admit she took the first bite, but what does that matter? One
    sinner isn't any better than another are they?

    So you believe that women don't belong on the pulpit because it is
    the will of God er? Are you sure it isn't the 'will of Paul or Peter
    or other writers of the Bible'?  Where else in the Bible does it
    state that women can't preach?  Did Jesus say it - ever? If so,
    please quote it!  Where did God say it -and I certainly don't mean
    through Paul either!?!

    Again I quote Paul .... "I permit no women to teach or to have
    authority over men; she is to keep silent"! Also ... "Yet women will
    be saved through bearing children if she continues in faith and love
    and holiness with modesty." So this is saying that Jesus dying on
    the cross isn't enough for women - they must bear children etc????

    I admit that I never will understand this 'head of the household'
    stuff. I chuckled when I read that your wife makes more money than
    you do and you still have the nerve to say you are head of that
    household!!

    My stomach lurched when I read your .... "The man/father of the
    house is to be the leader of the house both in regular matters and
    especially in spiritual matters. A father is to be a role-model in
    this respect - a human representation of our Heavenly Father."
    I ask again - is the woman's soul so much lessor than a man's that
    she can't be a role model also in her own home, to the children she
    bore? Is her soul not representing the Heavenly Father? She can
    spend her life in her home - making it a beautiful haven - raising
    her children, giving a lot of love and she isn't even the head of
    that household? Even a co-head?? "She should look to the man for
    regular matters and spiritual matters"? I know what the latter is,
    but what is regular matters - balancing the check book - grocery
    shopping -what is best on rearranging the furniture - should she use
    plastic or cloth diapers - checking with him before she buys that
    blouse or what?? What if she has a college education? Should she
    still check with the head first on these regular matters?

    I cannot imagine a woman doctor, dentist, lawyer, racecar driver,
    backhoe operator, entrepreneur coming home to the 'head of the
    household letting him guide her on 'regular matters and spiritual
    matters'!!! A home should be shared equally with all that create it!
    Idealy, both should be the ruling members - but sometimes the man is
    the guiding person, the stronger one,  but also sometimes the woman
    is and she should have that right to be who she is  and not be
    subjected to what some Dude wrote in the Bible as God's word over
    2,000 years ago!  Again, I am always amazed that you do not question
    this!

    Why are you against women preachers? If their words are inspiring
    and they bring souls to God, why should they be banned? Isn't that
    the purpose of preaching? Do you think women do not comprehend the
    words of God as well as men do? Could not preach as powerfully?
    Please explain this in detail without Bible Quotes - your words!
    I am quoting it and asking why you belive in everything it says - so
    in answering in quotes, doesn't tell me a thing! See?

    Re: your .... "I do not believe the Equal Rights Movement is seeking
    equality for women I believe they are seeking SUPREMACY"!

    I do not believe that in the least, but lets for conversation sake
    assume they are! Maybe it's about time someone took away man's
    power. He has totally bungled it up and continues to do so. Could
    women do any worse? I hardly think so!

    However, I am not for any sex ruling exclusively. We are all just
    human's - no matter the color or sex or sexual preference. We all
    want the same thing - peace of mind - to live without war or threat
    of war - to worship as we wish - to not starve and have a dry place
    to sleep - to know our children are safe - to dress as we wish - to
    love whom we wish. The list is long and both sexes share it! I feel
    that if I wish to preach in the church of my choice and I am
    qualified, then I should not be banned from it or else I am
    discriminated against! When someone like Paul says "I permit no
    woman .... etc" and you or anyone else believes it, then I am in
    essence, discriminated against! I know you don't believe that, but
    it is perfectly clear to me..

    Message: 76887
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Daryl really last
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 12:34:00

    Last ....

    In finishing this up - I have one more question for you Daryl -
    again, no Bible quotes please ...
    ... if you take away my private parts that differ from a man's,
    isn't what is left the same as a man - a soul? If you take away a
    man's private parts that differ from a woman's, isn't what is left
    the same - a soul?

    For what it's worth, I have had 56 years experience on this earth
    and can truthfully say I have not found that men are superior in any
    way or that women are either. Nor have I seen one having anymore
    stamina, intelligence, common sense, patience, religion, or what-
    have-you than the other. Individuals, yes, not as a whole! Not
    enough to make it a blanket rule that woman can't preach or can't be
    head of the household! Its time to forget that junk and start to see
    that we have much in common - not focus on the minute differences.
    It seems to me that that is what God would want instead of a
    egotistical male coming home to 'his' house and ruling over regular
    matters and spiritual matters!!' I laugh at Paul, but he won you
    know. He allowed the males to keep their egos intact and still go to
    Heaven. Poor Jesus missed out though. He had to let go of all ego on
    the Cross! Anyway, thank you for listening Daryl. I hope you see the
    light of course . -=* ANN *=-

    Message: 76888
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl on father
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 12:43:44

    The only thing that has distorted the father's role is the father himself!

    If the family is destroyed - then society in general did this, not the
    women. I don't know whether you noticed or not, but times have changed - not
    only in your brief lifetime, but certainly in the last 2,000 years! If one
    is to take the Bible litterly, then a women should still be wearing a vail
    and or long hair and stay home and raise the kiddies - not out working,
    trying to keep a home above their heads!

    I don't know why I bothered to send these long posts when Bill said it so
    well in one post.

                            *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 76889
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cat/vile & filthy
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 13:18:44

    "Thou shall not kill" is a good example.  What this means to Christians is
    this:  It's okay to kill sometimes.

    Don't pray in the square in front of others but go into your closet.  What
    this means is:  Hell, I am not praying, I'm just "witnessing".

    In other words, Christians are the biggest hypocrites on this planet, vile
    and filthy.  A Christian can make ANYTHING say ANYTHING but they are only
    fooling themselves because they are obvious to anyone who can actually
    think.

    My concern is for the children who are growing up with this brainwashing.
    My job is to put an end to this evil bigotry.    -Rod

    Message: 76890
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Thad/bald pate
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 13:28:32

    No, actually what that passage about the 40 children being put to death
    by a bear should read.  "They weren't children but grown vile men who were
    totally evil."  See, doesn't that make Mr. God look better already?

    By the way, you can use my interpretation for all future discussions.  It's
    so easy.

    And, "Thou shall not kill" means:  It's okay to kill as long as your
    government says it is okay or if the person is a different skin color and/or
    speaks a different language.  (I could do this all day using the Christian
    method.

    "Don't pray outloud like the hypocrites do but go into the closet" simply
    means:  Just call it witnessing and it's okay.

    In the first book of Atheists it says:  "Don't fart in public" but since the
    word public can be taken so many ways it is okay to fart anywhere, anytime.

    See?

    Message: 76891
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 13:33:42

    Hey, woman, don't you know your proper place?  What is the idea of you
    questioning a male of the species?  You are going directly against the
    teachings of the bible.  I wouldn't want to be in your shoes come judgement
    day.  (They're probably too small and would pinch my feet.)  -Rod

    P.S.  Good posts but do you really expect a meaningful answer?  Aren't you
    just spinning your wheels?  Keep spinning, you may crack the armor on some
    of the less gullible of the lot.

    Message: 76892
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dog
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 15:36:00

    Re:  Do you feel comfortable worshipping a God who would send bears out of
    the woods to attack little children?

    As I recall they were young men, not little children.  They deserved what
    they got.  I don't have a problem with it.

    Message: 76893
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Religion
    Subject: last/deserve
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 16:26:13

    Well, if they were young men then it is certainally okay. After all, mocking
    someone's bald head is a serious offense.  What god wouldn't send a bear in
    for the killing after something like that?  Glory be.

    Message: 76894
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Religion
    Subject: CHRISTIANITY
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 16:26:53

    Religion in general is a carry-over from the past.  It generally afflicts
    the weak, the lame, the easily lead, the sheep of the world, if you will.

    Christianity in general is proof positive that brainwashing does work.

    I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is a disease but I would go as far
    as saying that it is vile and filth.  Even the basic tenets of that belief
    has been and is being corrupted as I type.

    Everything is subject to interpretation and I, along with all freethinkers
    everywhere, see that the bible can and does say absolutely anything that
    a so-called believer wants it to say, bar nothing.

    There is nothing that is immoral to a Christian, anytime or anywhere.  And
    if a Christian does something that others of that ilk feel is wrong then
    that too is okay because a Christian does not have to be perfect, just
    forgiven.

                                        Rod

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