### Apollo BBS Archive - October 1, 1989

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 61324
    Author: Jeff Beck
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: provocative
    Date: 09/30/89  Time: 17:23:34

    I was told Apollo had some lively discussions, and I must say, I wasn't
    dissapointed.

    Message: 61325
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Going to hell
    Date: 09/30/89  Time: 17:37:03

    So, what does John 3:16 mean to *you* ???

    Message: 61326
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: baptism
    Date: 09/30/89  Time: 21:36:00

    Any Catholic.

    Message: 61327
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: SubG net clench
    Date: 09/30/89  Time: 21:47:51

    Date: Wed, 27 Sep 89 12:29:14 edt
    From: Eric Haines
    Message-Id: <8909271629.AA00325@spruce>
    Subject: new view from the ledge

    The latest "View From The Ledge" is out, with lots of weird
    news.  You get a free subscription if you send strange story
    clippings to Chuck Shepherd, c/o Deadfromtheneckup, Inc, PO
    Box 57141, Washington, DC  20037.  Also, by mid-November at
    the latest, Plume Books (an imprint of NAL Penguin) will release
    _News of the Weird_, a "quality paperback" collection of
    over500 of the strangest news stories of the last fifteen years

    Some bits from the latest "View From The Ledge" (#29):

    - Newlywed Darrell W. Lewis, 67, got a court order in North
    Kingston, R.I., to keep wife Diane, 24, away from their home
    after she threatened him when he found her kissing a
    photograph of Johnny Mathis.

    - Robert Cerney and Debbie Burmeister had to be rescued from
    their folded-up sofa bed in Winona, Minn., after trying a "stupid
    human trick" they were sure would get them an invitation to
    appear on "Late Night with David Letterman."

    Message: 61328
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: from SubG network
    Date: 09/30/89  Time: 21:50:22

    - In Stockholm, a 92-year-old man, claiming his doctor had
    made him blind, set out to murder him but mistakenly shot and
    killed the wrong man in a medical center.

    - Jim C. Brady, well-known creationist in Pensacola, Fla., pleaded
    guilty to driving through a residential neighborhood and tossing
    nude photos of himself out the window to children.

    - Richard Rubin, 29, won $10,000 from K-Mart as a result of a
    1987 incident in a Boynton Beach, Fla., store.  Rubin accidentally
    shot himself with a gun the clerk was showing him, but he had
    difficulty proving damages for being out of work since he had
    not filed income-tax returns for the last 7 years.  Rubin
    intended the gun as a "first-grade graduation present" for his
    son, 8.

    - A Greenville, S.C., jury gave Evelyn Kuykendall, 67, $300,000
    for injuries suffered when faith healers Charles and Frances
    Hunter failed to catch her when she fell backward after having
    the spinal-injury demons exorcised from her body; the fall
    broke her back.

    All for now,
    Eric Haines

    Message: 61329
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Eric haines
    Date: 09/30/89  Time: 22:17:33

    Goody, a Weekly World News subscriber.

    Message: 61330
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Cliff's list
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 06:03:48

    Amen. The only problem I have with it is that , sadly, we in District 3 have
    no choice. Paul Johnson has lied to me and to other people he is supposed to
    be serving, is a big proponent of such money wasters as the amphitheater,
    the Suns arena, the downtown stadium, patriot's park, etc., and we have no
    choice because nobody is running against him. I will not vote for him simply
    because it is my habit not to vote for unopposed candidates.
     The mayoral race is something else. We have a choice between Terrible
    Terry, a Mecham troglodyte and a real estate peddler who doesn't have a clue
    as to what's going on around him. Some choice! How about a space on the
    ballot for "none of the above"?
     Anyway, NO! on 1, a bigger NO!!! on the prop that doubles the concil's and
    mayor's salaries, NO! on 106 and YES!!! on 200.
     No also on the props dealing with historic places, etc. Such a thing, if it
    is to be done, should be done with private money, just as sports arenas,
    etc. should be built with private funds. If big money is not willing to
    invest in such things, there can be only one reason. They're losers, which
    means the initial investment is only he beginning folks. We will be
    subsidizing these monsters for years to come! Watch your money! The council
    isn't!

    Message: 61331
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/the Bible
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 07:13:14

    Gads, your gonna force me to open it. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 61332
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/voting
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 07:17:45

    Do not vote for Skip Rimsza. My husband has been doing business with that
    realty for two years - according to him, since Skip has decided to run, he's
    gotten impossible - gotten on an ego trip and his business has gone to hell.
    In other words, he has turned into a typical politician - not for the
    people, but for himself - his grandizement, glory, laud and honor!
                            -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 61333
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Paul on Paul Johnson
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 08:35:47

            Sorry to hear that Paul...  He was rated an 'A' by the 2nd Amendment
    people.   I also thought that those who spoke at the rally were all against
    the "Base Ball arena"....  They sure cheered when it was mentioned as a
    thing to Vote...DOWN! (mentioned by Joe Abodeely of KFYI in his speech).
            Since he is running Un-Opposed.... I would skip him too!

            You are really down on anyone who knows Mecham???  Mecham's ideas
    about NOT spending and NOT buying unless the money was already there...
    were not bad ideas...  It was his big mouth that got him in trouble... And
    of course, some of it taken out of context by the News Paper that I no
    longer get in protest (and they damn well know it too!)  News media should
    print the news...not make it or write it in such a way as to sway the
    public.... because what you believe to be Mecham...is not really correct.

            To each his own... ha ha ha.  I am going to vote for Burt Kruglick,
    just because I can't stand TERRY TOON GODDARD anylonger.... and his CrAzY
    spending fling!  Not that I think Burt is all that great...  But to NOT Vote
    will surly let Terry in again.... Almost like a YES vote for him...  (sic)
    I wish they we had someone better though.....  sigh!

    VOTE YES on 200... Pretty safe with a NO on everything else...
    Can anyone say anything about 104 and 105?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 61334
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Ann on Skip
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 08:42:45

            Well Ann... the others running in district 1 are not that great on
    the 2nd amendment..other than Peter Barnett who also is rated an 'A'.
    There is Frances Barwood who is rated a 'B'.... but stay clear of the
    others.... They want your GUN and your pool fenced and your yard inspected
    yearly by the state.  And...believe it or not, they think you should not be
    allowed to even DEFEND yourself lawfully!
            Sorry Ann...but Skip was rated the top spot in that district!?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 61335
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Barney Frank
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 09:12:56

    It seems Barney Frank is holding a news conference on Capitol Hill.  As he's
    answering a question, he sees a gorgeous woman walking by -- blonde,
    mini-skirted, a perfect figure, an unblemished face.  Barney is mesmerized.
    He gazes at her until she's out of sight, then mumbles, "Boy, you know, it's
    times like this when I wish I were a lesbian."

    Message: 61336
    Author: Jeff Beck
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul Johnson
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 11:16:58

    I once picked up a hitchhiker who claimed to be Paul Johnson's son.  It
    seems that the pair of them had a falling out, and now the junior Johnson
    roams the streets of Phoenix inebriated and wearing blue pants several sizes
    too large.
    Oh, he also mentioned that he was an architect trained by Frank Lloyd
    Wright, who can't find work in either L.A. or New York because his designs
    are too avant-garde.

    Message: 61337
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: The ote
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 11:46:19

    It looks like it is a dead heat.

    Bulletin Board command:EC

    Message: 61338
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Nostalgia/JT
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 11:51:05

    Here is a JT message from those thrilling days of yesteryear.

    Message: 22097
    Author: JAMES TARANTO
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: GUNS AND FREEDOM
    Date: 10/30/84  Time: 01:10:10

    It was terrible.  People were at the mercy of their
    governments until someone invented guns.

    Message: 22098
    Author: JAMES TARANTO
    Category: In search of
    Subject: BOB THORNBURG
    Date: 10/30/84  Time: 01:14:14

    Alan, where are you?

    .......well, JT, now you know where you were on that date.  Just thought
    that you would enjoy something from the past.  -Rod

    Only Arizona residents need ote this one:

    Recently the State of Arizona got its own "King Holiday"....  What best
    fits your thoughts on this:

    [A]  We needed it, and I am for it!
    [B]  We did not need this holiday.
    [C]  We could have picked a better person to honor than M.L.K.
    [D]  We needed it, but I don't like the way it was implemented (Greed)

    [E]  I am not going to [V]ote this question!  (sulk)

    How do you vote [A-E] or [CR] to abort:$

    Poll results to date:
    [A] 6    [B] 3    [C] 5    [D] 2    [E] 4

    Message: 61339
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Vote
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 11:54:02

    I voted (E) because the truth of the matter is that it doesn't matter one
    bit to me whether there is a MLK day or not.  If there was a choice which
    said:  I don't care one way or the other, I would have voted it that way.

    Message: 61341
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 16:57:54

    Well, some of us have changed in the last five years...

    Message: 61342
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JL
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 19:31:23

    Re:  "I am saying that there is no inconsistency between God creating
    people who have free wills and God only creating people who are morally
    perfect (i.e., never choose to do evil acts)."

    I don't believe that!

    Message: 61343
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 19:35:51

    Re:  "to his most recent, I'd say that his demeanor has been great.  I'd
    like to nominate him to the Christians of Apollo, Hall of Fame."

    Oh shucks Rod!  You made my day.

    Message: 61344
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dog
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 19:40:24

    Re:  "So, what does John 3:16 mean to *you* ???"

    John 3:16  "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
    that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

    Hmmmmm.  I don't see anything about unbaptized babies going to hell.  Which
    part don't you understand?

    Message: 61345
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JL
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 19:43:04

    Re:  "Any Catholic."

    Catholics believe lots of things that are not in the Bible.  Like praying to
    dead people, purgatory, letters of indulgence, etc.

    I think they might have thrown out the "letters of indulgence" because of
    all the flack they caused.

    Message: 61346
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 19:46:49

    Re:  "Gads, your gonna force me to open it."

    Good show Ann!  Good show!  Or, "Good shoe!" as Ed Sullivan would say.

    Message: 61347
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/Bible
    Date: 10/01/89  Time: 22:06:22

    The Bible that you use came from the Catholics of ages past.

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