### Apollo BBS Archive - August 2, 1991

    Mail from Melissa Dee
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 03:57:45

    [A]bort, [N]ew only, [R]ead or [S]kip:Read

    Yeah, the pee wee thing even got on McGlaflin last night.  Pretty weird...

    Hey, your comment on the $tatus sig is fit for a button, I'll say.
    "I once put a Camel through the eye of a needle, one puff at a time."
    Or at least a t-shirt.
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

    Enter a line containing only an [*] to stop
     1:Hey, thanks for the button-tee-shirt idea.  It just came to me in a cloud of
     2:smoke, last night.
     3:
     4:The Pee Wee Incident should be forgotten.  The so-called crime was
     5:victimless and could be considered normal.  But I guess the cities like to
     6:get their victims on some sort of monthly payment plan.
     7:
     8:$700.00 if caught with a roach, plus going to their school and peeing in a
     9:bottle.  Heil Geroge III.
    10:
    11:Again thanks,
    12:
    13:                                Rod
    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 7770
    Author: $ Wild Barbarian
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: daryl/creation
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 08:39:01

     Gee, I do believe scientists thru the use of very expensive telescopes are
    seeing the creation of world's far out into space.  Since you can't come up
    with my/how god was created, this is as far as I have to go.  And yes, I
    believe there must be some starting point for domething.  And it sure aint
    god.  That's the most laughable story I have heard yet.... God had to be
    created from something someplace.  But then again I don't expect you to be
    able to understand that.

    Message: 7771
    Author: $ Wild Barbarian
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: daryl/Carbon dating
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 08:41:55

      I think you read to much non-sense.  If you go head hunting far enough and
    are closed minded enough, you will find what ever answer you want to...
    Just like your posts have show....  Too bad.....

    Message: 7772
    Author: $ Wild Barbarian
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: carter/big bang
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 08:50:09

     Hmmm.. well, I never said I know where the dust of the universe came from.
    But it had to come from some place.  Perhaps some day scientists will be
    able to explain to us where it did.  Hmmmm... "Matter can neither be created
    nor destroyed"  I think you missed the point.  The process is circular.
    Something (animal/human/whatever, yes I am being general here) is created,
    lives out it's existance, dies/is destroyed and is returned to the earth to
    begin a new process for something else all over...
     You missed my point entirely about something from nothing.  I stated that
    there must be a starting point to everythying.  God simply start to exist as
    a human form from nothing.... Prove that he did....After all, the bible says
    we are created in his image...... Show me how!

    Message: 7773
    Author: $ Wild Barbarian
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: BD/right on
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 08:51:19

     And if this world is simply his idea alone with all the bad and ugly in it,
    I want nothing to do with this god.

    Message: 7774
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/relatives
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 11:50:18

    Really?  Did your family (Williams) always live in Louisiana?  I have
    relatives by that name, but they don't live there...

    Message: 7775
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Beau / 7755
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:13:28

    "Well, clearly all of the *matter* and *energy* in the universe have been
    around forever..."

    No, the only thing that's clear is that you hold a very dogmatic stand on a
    very unverifiable theory.

    Message: 7776
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann / 7757
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:18:52

    No, it would just prove that the Carbon-14 method of dating is wholly
    unreliable, and that placing any trust in it's resultant dates is based
    wholly on faith.  If you asked someone to guess your age, and that person
    came back with three answers - one million, seven million, and
    three-point-five million, would you place any trust in their ability to
    guess ANYONE's age correctly?

    Message: 7777
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Gordon
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:21:45

    Well, when you do your measuring of erosion and sediment deposits, what is
    your sample?

    Message: 7778
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod / Earth
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:32:44

         Rod, are you ever capable of making your point without having to resort
    to name-calling and mudslinging first?  First you have to label the
    opposition as "fanatics" before you can express your OPINION that their view
    of the age of the earth is "ridiculous."

         And then your hatred of Christians who are bold enough to take a stand
    and defend their belief in the Bible, by suggesting that I am some sort of
    blood-thirsty, Inquisition-minded maniac.  Of course, that is always the
    last resort of someone whose arguments do not have a leg to stand on if they
    were presented with any sort of real integrity.

         Of course, I certainly will not find it surprising if Ann and Roger
    respond with, "Good post, Rod."  We all know that this is not a matter of
    serious discussion.  It all seems to be a matter of how many cats you can
    get to sit in your lap and purr while you stroke them.

    Message: 7780
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Wild Barbarian /7771
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:39:51

          Well, I've been only quoting your evolutionary buddies.  Perhaps
    you're right in that respect:  I HAVE been reading too much nonsense.

    Message: 7781
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Wild Bard
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:43:03

    "I want nothing to do with this god."

    Too bad, because He really wants something to do with you.  So much so that
    He died for you.  I just hope that you don't die with this train of thought,
    because if you do, you will certainly get your wish. (Rev 22:14-15)

    Message: 7782
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Wild Barb
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:45:55

    "Scientists thru the use of very expensive telescopes are seeing the
    creation of world's..."

    Even if this is indeed what they are seeing, just how long ago did what they
    are seeing really happen?

    Message: 7783
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Daryl/7775
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 21:13:23

    And you hold an equally unverifiable theory (or two - not only the existance
    of God, but his eternalness).  My statement was to show the parallel between
    and eternal universe and an eternal god.  You said the universe had to
    begin. I say god did, too.  (so where did *he* come from?)

    Message: 7784
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Beau/relative(s)
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 22:47:33

    The matter and energy that I am composed of has its orgins in the Big Bang,
    therefore I feel that we are all related.  Williams, Harvey, Smith, Jones,
    Ching, what's the difference?

    Message: 7785
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Wild Barbarian
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 22:48:20

    Your posts were very interesting.  Would you care to share your plants with
    me?

    Message: 7786
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 22:49:33

    Excellent Posts.

    Message: 4951
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Quickie
    Subject: Welcome, Thad
    Date: 08/01/91  Time: 18:12:32

    The room is dark, minus the green glow from the ceiling fan, from the
    plastic "star" I

    Message: 4952
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Quickie
    Subject: Con't
    Date: 08/01/91  Time: 18:13:23

    ears.

    Message: 4953
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Erotic Stories
    Subject: Lat
    Date: 08/01/91  Time: 18:30:0

    Message: 4954
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Dogs
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 00:31:11

    Did someone mention they knew where to get a dog fucking video?  I have
    dyslexia and any information would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

    Message: 4955
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Thang!
    Subject: Pee Wee
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 04:05:43

    Can you believe that McLaughlin had a segment on Pee Wee Herman?  Most
    agreed that the work of the *three* policemen was pretty inane.  I mean, as
    for Mike C's question about voilence, YES, why aren't these cops working on
    something more important?  And also, if the people of Sarasota don't want
    that sort of thing happening, take down the xxx theatre, instead of
    arresting people for going and watching the films.
    By the way, the paper mentioned that the castle boutique has two of the
    three movies that were viewed that night.  Nurse Nancy and Catalina Five-O
    Tiger Shark.

    Message: 4956
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Melissa
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 22:53:34

    Good points.  I would reckon that those cops who are into porn bring about a
    division that investigates it.  That way, everyone has fun.  It's much too
    scary trying to solve the murder cases.  The, the porn boys and girls, leave
    that to those who are more manly.

    Message: 4957
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Kissing What?
    Subject: God,question
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 22:54:58

    If the human animal is created in its gods image then what does this god's
    butthole look like and does he have a wang?

    Message: 77365
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Mike on Porn
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 04:11:26

    I'd say that there are plenty of people out there ready to rape, steal and
    murder for whatever reason, and don't have to read a porno mag to get
    excited to do so.

    Message: 77366
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Thad
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 04:12:43

    Well, then, maybe I should send you the story in mail.  However, since you
    have already mentioned your desire to stay away from such things, I wont
    take it personally if you would rather not.  I was just trying to show that
    one can be erotic without being degrading, hurtful, etc.

    Message: 77367
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Peter, Gordon, Dean
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 04:24:18

    Good posts, one in all.  Or should that be all for one and one for all?
    People's addictions should be seperated from the objects they choose to be
    addicted to.  And I'd argue about somone who said that if your sex life is
    good, you don't "need" porn.  I don't think anyone "needs" porn but it might
    be enjoyable once in a while.  As for Gordon's comment about being able to
    make up better stories in his head, BRAVO!  That is why I started writing my
    stories.  I didn't like the porn that was available and neither do a lot of
    other people.

    Message: 77368
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie/porn
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 05:28:04

     If y you think that there was no porn around when you were a kid, you must
    have led a sheltered life! It may not have been as blatant as it is today,
    but it was there. It took the form of little 8 page "comic" books, still
    photos, sexually explicit stories and some rather primitive, poorly y made
    movies, but it was definitely available if you knew where to look. Just as
    any 8th grader at the time!

    Message: 77369
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: In search of
    Subject: ...Apro
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 07:08:34

    > ...and then there's Apro!

    Hey!  Where IS Apro?

    Message: 77370
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Elkanich's List
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 07:09:00

    > Sorry, it [the [O]ther Systems list] is not there...

    Arrrgh!  That's what I get for checking only to see if the command was
    available, but without actually trying it out.

    Mike, perhaps if you tell us what kinds of BBSes you're interested in we can
    make some specific suggestions.

    Message: 77371
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dean #77355
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 07:26:20

    NO MTV? You certainly can't rule fellow!!  :)   *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 77372
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gordon & Dean
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 07:30:02

    Your posts on porn were excellent! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 77373
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Peter - question
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 07:31:04

    I was wondering the other day - what ever happened to the cactus Madonna?
    Hahahahahahaha. *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 77374
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod on 'whipped'
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 07:32:47

    # 77363 ... hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Love it! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 77375
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Pauley on porn
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 07:36:45

    Me sheltered? You gotta be kidding! I was raised on skid row L.A. and yes,
    of course there was porn in those days - but you could not buy it in a
    cornor shop and people didn't go passing it around to kids! The only porn I
    saw was real people doing 'real' things! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 77376
    Author: $ Thad Coons
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Apro Poet
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 10:59:30

      ...Good question. He disappeared in the middle of an interesting
    "prohibibolics Anonymous series'.

    Message: 77377
    Author: $ Thad Coons
    Category: War!
    Subject:  Porn 1/4
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 11:01:37

      This seems to be a fairly busy topic: I may have to take you all on.
      First, Peter, even allowing for 'addictive personalities', you
    cannot ignore the medium. Cocaine, heroin, and nicotine are addictive
    substances. There may be people who are immune or resistant, but they
    are a definite minority.
      Alcohol is harder to call: there seem to be both biological and
    psychological factors involved. There is no basis for a physical
    addiction to pornography, but there are psychological factors. I
    dare say that there are more people addicted to pornography than to
    reading the telephone directory or the Federal budget. (Even if the
    Federal budget IS considered obscene.)
      About people being led into violence by watching or reading
    pornography; I think you will find that most people convicted of sex
    crimes are involved in pornography.
       Bill, I tried calling the Phoenix PD to find what they would say
    about that.... but their weekend skeleton staff was too busy to even
    answer that kind of question. I don't get the impression that their
    problems with rapists and child molesters are 'hatched' in order
    to get more money for the department.
    (Continued)

    Message: 77378
    Author: $ Thad Coons
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff/Boards
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 11:29:27

      Here are four that I have found useful:
       CarolCom's Starship.....946-4234
       Space Age BBS...........838-3163
       Emerald Donjon..........987-9687
       Chalkboard BBS..........997-1392

      These all have fairly long llists of BBS's somwhere on the system:
    Chalkboard and a download file named VICSLIST on Carolcom's seem to have
    the most current lists.

      With boards going up and down weekly at least, I doubt that any list will
    ever be completely current, but if you have some idea of where to go... that
    should help somewhat.

    Message: 77379
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: boards
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 11:48:41

    Don't forget Zephyr BBS ..... 894-6526

    Message: 77380
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: News Today
    Subject: August 1, 1981
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 14:42:44

    MTV was born a day after Apollo.  Pretty spooky

    Message: 77381
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Pee Wee Update
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 17:22:41

    In the paper today it was reported that Paul Reubens offered to do a free
    benefit for kids (as Pee Wee Herman) in order to avoid being arrested.

    So much for the "Time to blow the character" theory.

    He admits to being in the theatre, but denies the charges.

    Message: 77382
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: That / James W.
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:52:06

          Why don't you discuss exactly why you feel he is a wolf in sheep's
    clothing?

    Message: 77383
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Apollo BBS List
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 19:57:24

          If I had a Zone A number, I would work on a new list for you.  Reminds
    me of the good old days.  Without sounding TOO big headed, it was a lot of
    fun being the originator of Phoenix's first comprehensive BBS listing.

    Message: 77384
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann / 77344
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 20:00:36

         Gee, how did you ever guess?
    First name:PETER
    Last name:PETRISKO
    Send mail to Peter Petrisko:Yes  (note: Kristin left this mssage.)

    Enter a line containing only an <*> to stop
     1:calling my old friend from here in the twilite zone
     2:I have pulled myself out of that sidewalk crack
     3:I want to see you tonite
     4:please
     5:remembering how to read those messages in granite
     6:you may not recall writing
     7:I've been thinking about you lately
     8:I had almost forgotten what was there
     9:I always had to read between the lines with you
    10:still
    11:You might not get this before I leave
    12:I realised the other day that you are romantic
    13:Trying to shake you into seeing me
    14:I think it would be fun
    15:285-9685
    16:or if you miss me in the valley of the sun
    17:702-368-2669

    Late Night Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2061
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Lasta a
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 03:50:28

    Ewwwwwooooo.  I don't want to get aged.  I got my first grey hair at 20.
    I'm not as bad as a friend of mine, who has to dye her's and she's only 26
    or 27.   All my grey is on the sides, hiding underneath.  That's pretty
    weird cuz I bought this poster on my trip to England that has a girl with
    red hair and this wide streaks of gray on the side and I remember thinking I
    thought that looked cool.

    Message: 2062
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 23:51:30

    Worrying about getting grey hair or having a heart attack is the quickest
    way to miss your objective.

    Twilight Zone Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 40
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Journey
    Subject: First Visit
    Date: 07/15/91  Time: 15:29:06

      I am the 15th caller and the shields are at 00%.
       See You Later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 41
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Journey
    Subject: This journey
    Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:26:01

    into outer darkness...........I know that I should say something astute and
    worthy of the privelege (?) of being here, but I don't think too well in the
    dark, like some of my atheistic companions in this place, who are always in
    the dark.
     Still seeking the
    light.......................................................................
    Ah! I found it! Bye.

    Message: 42
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Journey
    Subject: This place...
    Date: 07/22/91  Time: 11:11:41

    ... what is it? Whats the purpose. To make us feel crazy? Well that is a
    reality already, whats new? Dahhhhhhhhhhh.....

    Message: 43
    Author: $ Green Lantern
    Category: Journey
    Subject: Back Again
    Date: 07/22/91  Time: 12:43:01

    I forgot to look at the stats.

    Message: 44
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Bizarre
    Subject: Sums it up
    Date: 07/25/91  Time: 07:49:44

    Message: 45
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Journey
    Subject: Well, here again ...
    Date: 07/27/91  Time: 11:16:05

    Caller # 162296 (10 today)
    It is now 07/27/91  11:15:07
    You have been on 01:06
    Message range is (1-44)
    The SYSOP is in
    Shields 00 %

    Message: 46
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Dimension
    Subject: This Sig
    Date: 08/02/91  Time: 04:52:54

    I have probably had the banner flag 12 times in the last two months.
    It keeps hosing up my auto-login proceedure.

    My computer says there's a correlation between the outside temperature,
    the day of month, your last names' combined ascii code and if
    you posted a message in the last 3 days.

    EEEEK! I just saw Ann Oudin fly by, GAWD, she looks like that
    plastic doll on the Twilight Zone...eek! I'm here!

    Message: 47
    Author: $ Gordon Little
    Category: Bizarre
    Subject: sanity
    Date: 08/02/91  Time: 12:56:20

    I feel terribly sane.  Only the world around me is mad.

    Message: 48
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Imagination
    Subject: Sanity
    Date: 08/03/91  Time: 23:55:06

    If you think you are sane, you are not.
    If you don't know then you're okay.