### Apollo BBS Archive - May 14, 1989

    Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 05:28:34

    Maybe this cold fusion thing will end up being feasible. I might even trade
    in my Vega wagon for a fusion powered car.
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:        I haven't been following the 'cold fusion' news.  But if it did work
     2:for the personal car that would be great in some respects.  I think that
     3:cities should limit speed on auto's to something like 45mph.  A switch could
     4:be flipped for highways that would allow more speed.  My objection is not
     5:only the pollution that gets in my nose but the damage to spinal cords from
     6:accidents.  Also children are being kept virtual prisioners of their blocks
     7:because of the automobile.  I'd like to see auto-free neighborhoods.  I also

     9:P.S.  Have you read the stories that were entered in the Kontest?  J.T. says
    10:he hasn't read any of them.  And did you notice a new $tatus member by the
    11:name of Robert Knee?  And did you notice that Jeannie IN A FUCKING JUG and
    12:Sandy Syslop are similiar in many ways?
    13:        If you did read the stories, did you notice how Dean's story
    14:confused Paul Savage?  -Rod

    Mail from James Taranto
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 07:48:59

    The stories sounded silly so I did not read them.
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     1:        That's bullshit.  "The stories sounded silly so I did not read
     2:them."  Well, in a way you are correct but please read Dean's story.  In its
     3:silliness, it is prophetic.  Then perhaps you can explain the meaning to
     4:Paul.  It is only 6K.

    Mail from Ann Oudin
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:11:22

    Cliff recommended Paul not read your story??? That is ridiculas! If
    anything, mine would offend Paul, not yours.
    Why do I think you will win? (1.) It was very well written and completely
    understandable - not like Dean's for instance. (2) It was closer to being a
    'real' story. (and I'm not talking length here) (3) You put the characters
    of Apollo in their places to perfection and you stuck to the thyme of our
    posts. (4) Your ending was excellent and a surprise, like a good story
    should have. I liked all the posts and they had their merits but I think
    when Gary mentioned that only one of the stories was professionaly written,
    I'm positive he meant yours, even though he didn't say who he meant. I don't
    know who is going to vote for the winner, but if it's Cliff, I'm sure Dean
    will win because he really seemed to like it and it wasn't 'controversial'!
    See? -=*) ANN (*=-
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     1:        I only liked your story and Deans.  The others iritated me because
     2:of the way they used your character.  I was pissed off and to date I have not
     3:commented on any of them.  Oh well.  Since I wrote that story I have been
     4:thinking about it and have a few more paragraphs to add someday.
     5:(Meanwhile, down on the planets surface, in the short time the inhabitants
     6:had left, many people were praying to their God.  The Christians were sure
     7:the rapturte had come.....etc.
     8:        Take care,  -Rod

    Mail from James Taranto
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 14:36:53

    I don't even know how to read the stories.
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     1:"I don't even know how to read the stories."  What exactly does that mean?
     2:Are you drunk or stoned?  Lose your glasses?  What?
     3:
     4:        Do you stay off the streets of D.C. at night or do you go out and do
     5:what you want?

    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 5486
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Stories
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 06:49:33

     The only reason I read Ann's and Dean's was because they were recommended
    to me by Cliff, who said that I was part of them.
     As a rule, time does not permit me more than to log on, read and respond to
    messages and get on with other things. I'm sure that they're all excellent,
    but I'm no judge. Congratulations to all contestants. If you can write
    legibly and intelligently, you're all winners in my book!

    Message: 5487
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/#5484
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:49:26

    Thank God for proof readers then cause I'm writting a book! And not in a
    bikini either! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 5488
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 11:01:40

    Naked, then?

    Message: 5489
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 13:18:30

            Hey Paulie, sweetheart, you'se in my story.  I has a special
    sentence in there, just for you.      -Rod

    Creative Corner Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2237
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Bribe
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:57:06

    I take it back. If it sounded as such, it wasn't meant that way. Ralphy is
    my dear friend and is always on my side except where it comes to piercing
    his ear and growing long hair. -=*) ANN (*=-

    P.S. A MONTH in the Zone??? Do you want to kill me? Ruin my life? Make me go
    crazy(er)? Send me to a mental institute? My life is in your hands oh Mighty
    Sysop who is handsome and intelligent and oh so charming!

    Message: 2238
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 13:19:34

    Lying will also get you in the 'Zone'.

    The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 3089
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Sandy
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 03:27:04

    There were at least three D.D.D.'s.  Maybe even four.  And that's not
    even counting the ripoffs.  (Debbie Duz Dishes, etc.)  I have D.D.D. 1 if
    you're interested.  Cliff doesn't have to know a thing about it.

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 58707
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mothers...
    Date: 05/13/89  Time: 21:35:14

            If I wrote about my Mom the way I feel about her... you guys would
    have me tossed in the PHAntom ZONE for a year.  And you think swearing is
    rough in the COSmos or RGB SIG.  You ain't seen nothing!

            *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 58708
    Author: George Wright
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ubiquitous sex
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 02:23:27

    I can only think of one thing that has nothing whatsoever to do with sex;
    Cameron Harper.

    Message: 58709
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff/basketball
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 03:30:32

    You could teach a three foot person to beat a 7 foot person at basketball.
    Especially if the 7 footer is Manute Bol.  Look at Spud Web.  He's the
    shortest player in the NBA, but also one of the most outstanding ones.  YOU
    are taller than Spud is, Cliff.

    Message: 58710
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 06:40:09

    Why don't I buy a magazine instead of girl watching?
    Simple answer.
    Pictures don't wiggle.

    Message: 58711
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: JT/freedom
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:27:39

    If women are used OUT OF CONTENT in an advertizement such as I've mentiond
    in previous posts, our freedoms are diminished considerably because we will
    not be taken seriously in other fields! I hardly think that a beauty contest
    winner will ever be thought of by men as anything other than that regardless
    of her mental capabilities or ambitions. I've met SO many men that think
    women were put her for just their enjoyment and nothing else and they treat
    them as so! What is the purpose of a beauty contest? It's certainly for the
    men and not women! I can picture this winner going into a career and trying
    to make her way to the top and all along, she is NOT taken seriously because
    she won a stupid beauty contest! Woman speak of harassment all the time in
    their jobs as it is. Can you see a B-contest winner taking up driving truck
    for a living? She might be able to drive that truck as good as any of her
    male co-workers, but that won't matter in the least to the drooling guys
    that want a conquest with a legitimate Beauty contest winner! BUT - she
    deserves this harassment. After all, she took off her clothes and paraded
    around so the audiance and the judges can see every square in of her body!
    Come on James. Would you take her seriously other than trying to make a
    conquest? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58712
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Mr. Knee
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:32:26

    Again, someone explained it better than I and I thank you! JT: Please read
    this post because this answers your questions to me perfectly and you
    shouldn't have any more. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58713
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/#58695
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:40:16

    I agree that everything has to do with sex, but lets spread it around a bit
    and have more males exposing themselves --- OOPS! I mean showing more of
    themselves --- OOPS! I personally WOULD look at a commercial of a guy in a
    bikini pouring Toilet bowl cleaner down the stool - but only IF he was
    perfect, air brushed and had a body like Arnies! Then I would figure that
    ALL men should look like this and I want one! Then I would divorce my
    husband because he doesn't look like that and start searching for one that
    did. I would find many that did, but they wouldn't want to appear in a
    toilet bowl commercial wearing a bikini and be exploited! So I would grow
    old alone, my dream flushed down a toilet!

                     ** THE END ***

    Message: 58714
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/#58698
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:42:35

    He doesn't! That's why he has seven children! (wink) -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58715
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: James H./paste
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:47:45

    If toothpaste has a lot to do with sex (and I do see your point) then why
    don't men appear in the ads half undressed with lust on their face?
    Arn't men the other half of sexual exchange? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58716
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul/wiggle
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 13:22:35

            Yes, pictures can be made to 'wiggle', Paul.  Just put them in front
    of a fan.  P.S.  This is for shut-ins.     -Rod

    Message: 58717
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/toilet
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 13:30:41

            I agree, bikini clad woman in a toilet cleanser commercial is stupid
    as are a lot of other ads with sexual innuendos.  But there would be a lot
    of women without jobs if this was cut out.  But I don't have to complain
    because when I watch tv, I scan.  When a commercial comes on to break up a
    show, I look for another channel that has something interesting and I may
    never get back to the show I was watching.  Besides I usually just watch
    movies on the cable channels.  They have their own way of doing a commercial
    in that they will show a box of Kellog's Bran Flakes on the kitchen table or
    another product they were paid to show.  I like that method better.

    Message: 58718
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Oudin
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 14:52:20

    So, your objection to beauty contests and the like is that (for example)
    winners will not be taken seriously as truck drivers?  In the first place, I
    do not know of too many beauty contestants who seek careers as truck
    drivers.  Most, I think, want to be models or actresses or the like, and
    being a beauty contestant fits quite well into those career plans.
    Imagine if Ronald Reagan decided to become a truck driver?  Do you think
    he'd be treated just like any other truck driver?  I doubt he'd be able to
    live down the fact that he's a former president.  Does this mean that the
    existence of the office of President diminishes our freedoms?  I think not.
    Also, what makes you think prostitutes or porn stars will be taken any more
    seriously as truck drivers than will beauty contest winners?  Finally, your
    claim seems to be that beauty contests and the like somehow diminish the
    freedom of all women, not just those who participate in them.  If being
    taken seriously as a truck driver is the standard of freedom, what evidence
    do you have that a ban on beauty contests would cause women in general to be
    taken more seriously as truck drivers?

    (A side note: I do not think of women as "conquests," and I think men who do
    are morally deficient.  I do, however, enjoy looking at beautiful women, and
    I don't think this means I take women any less seriously.)

    Message: 58719
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Oudin/Knee
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 14:52:56

    Will one of you please explain how beauty contests caused the rape in
    Central Park?  This should be good.

    Message: 58720
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Sexy men in ads
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 15:55:44

    Hey, Ann, remember the White Tornado and similar ads? Don't you think that
    those were appealing to women's prurient interests?
     ]

    Message: 58721
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ads
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 16:31:17

            I can recall a "Brawny" ad with a muscle bound male and a Mr Clean.
    Somehow I don't feel deminished in any way.

    Message: 58722
    Author: Jack Carper
    Category: Sex & Love
    Subject: date
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 18:01:25

    to whoever wants a real date call me! (females only)

    Message: 58723
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ugly/Rod
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 19:21:41

    I agree with everything you said in post 58706.

    Message: 58724
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: the Bob
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 20:01:07

            Does being grossly ugly have anything to do with you agreeing with
    me?  Or is it just that you can't wait to get to sleep in order to start a
    'new adventure'?
       Rod

    (GRIN)

    Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 361
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/last
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 09:59:41

    WORSHIT???? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Message: 362
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ralph
    Date: 05/14/89  Time: 13:35:01

          I want to see your story in the Kontest.  Don't tell me, everyone gets
    shot, right?

    White Pages command:F

    Last name:KNEE

    Knee, Robert                 Unlisted
    05/13/89  20:09:11    169
    IBM CLONE

    White Pages command:F

    Last name:TARANTO

    Taranto, James         (202) 659-3252
    05/14/89  07:51:10    2108
    ITT XT,TOSHIBA T1000,TRS80 M4

    Williams, Rod          (602) 266-0747
    05/13/89  20:02:43    1191
    ATARI 1040 (2)

    First name:ANN
    Last name:OUDIN
    Send mail to Ann Oudin:Yes

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     1:        Haven't you noticed something unusual recently.  $ Robert Knee all
     2:of a sudden, out of nowhere, shows up as a $tatus member, leaves a good
     3:message and you comment.  Cliff didn't announce his joining.
     4:
     5:        Ann, look in that book I sent you.......remember?   Who is Robert
     6:Knee?  Do you remember now?  I checked the (W)hite Pages and it shows that
     7:Knee has logged on 169 times.  This I do not understand.  It also shows that
     8:he has an IBM clone.   What do you think?   -Rod

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