### Apollo BBS Archive - June 28, 1990

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    Message: 67017
    Author: Hans Glans
    Category: My Dinner with...
    Subject: ...Rod's Evap unit..
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 01:22:53

    "Remember, I don't work as well in the 'monsoon', and I wreak havoc with gun
    barrels, among other things. And I am not really that cheap to run."

    Message: 67018
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: War!
    Subject: Justice
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 02:32:38

    JUSTICE FOR RONNIE BARLOW

    Who:    You (and your friends)
    What:   Civil Rights Protest & Rally
    When:   Tuesday, July 3, 12 Noon to 12:45
    Where:  Maricopa County Courthouse Plaze
            2nd Ave. & Jefferson, Downtown Phoenix

    Ronnie Barlow shot a man in self defense.  His attacker had a long, violent
    criminal record, including assault, and child-molesting (he was white).
    Ronnie Barlow had no criminal record (he is black).  Ronnie Barlow should
    have gotten a medal.  Instead, he got convicted of second-degree murder!

    Justice denied to one person is justice denied to each of us!  Celebrate the
    4th of July and observe our freedoms by being there to support and protect
    our rights!  Next time, it could be you.  You could go to jail for defending
    yourself.  Ronnie Barlow deserves a new trial, a fair trial.  He needs you.
    Come help him.

    Sponsored by Arizona Constitutional Rights Committee, (602) 942-9181

    Message: 67019
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: MAD MAX
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 02:42:54

    DeVry: As someone else has already said, Valley employers do not think too
    highly of them.

    ASU: The size of their classes is crushing, the competition is overwhelming.

    My suggestion:  Get a 4-year degree in Computers (or whatever) at Grand
    Canyon University.  Sure, it's somewhat expensive, but it's a small school
    with an excellent curriculum, good instructors, a friendly environment.  But
    maybe the VA won't pay for it, because it is a private, Southern Baptist
    university.  Maybe they will.  The main reason I suggest it, is that you
    will not drown in a sea of students.  Give it some thought.  I went there,
    and I've done OK with my C.S. degree.

    P.S.  Be aware, though, that there are a few employers in the Valley,
    notably Honeywell, that do not automatically consider a C.S. degree from
    Grand Canyon University equivalent to a C.S. degree from ASU.  My sister,
    who also received her C.S. degree from Grand Canyon, is not a full-fledged
    engineer at Honeywell, although they seemed to accept my credentials without
    any hesitation.  I guess they discriminate on a case-by-case basis, although
    they may not do so in 4 years, when you are likely to graduate, from
    anywhere.

    Anyway, congratulations, and good luck, and let us know what you find out,
    and what you decide.                 -Michael Kielsky "I'm the NRA"

    Message: 67020
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rog/STNG
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 06:52:36

    I noticed the few times I watched it  - it was more true science fiction the
    the original. But I guess it boils down to - it isn't Star Trek with out my
    beloved Captian Kurk and Spock! Ha. I like seeing them older in the films -
    but even that is kind of crazy. Who's gonna give a star ship over to an aged
    crew like that - especially fatty Scotty! But I luv um! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 67021
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Jeff/captains
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 07:46:10

    Ah, but that voice ! So resonant. Those eyes so piercing. The Borg is
    even more powerful with Picard at the helm !

    Message: 67022
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Rod/Feeling Happy
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 10:11:20

       So are you saying that someone who is experiencing a period of sadness is
    having a less-than-important emotional experience? "Sorrow is better than
    laughter, because a sad face is good for the heart."

    Daryl
    (Ro 15:5-6)

    Message: 67023
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod / Trees / Fire
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 10:16:00

        So, you are saying that a tree's life is important enough that you would
    take an active part in the saving of it...but only as long as the situation
    never actually presents itself.

        Gotcha.

    Daryl
    (Isa 40:31)

    Message: 67024
    Author: $ James White
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 12:22:20

    RW>  Could hell be any hotter?

    Only for people who wear "Thank God I'm an atheist" T-shirts.

    James>>>

    Message: 67025
    Author: $ James White
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Global warming
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 12:23:43

    It was probably a good bit hotter in the 12th and 13th centuries than it is
    now--we know they used to grow grapes in the South of England back then, but
    they can't today--too cold.  Global warming?  Sure, but it will be followed
    in a few centuries by global cooling, then global warming, then global
    cooling, etc. and etc.

    James>>>

    Message: 67026
    Author: $ James White
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Enterprise C
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 12:25:31

    Roger, didn't you read my post on CarolCom about that episode?  My favorite
    of all time (gee, doesn't that scare you?).  Maybe CarolCom went down before
    you saw the message.

    James>>>

    Message: 67027
    Author: $ James White
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Finale
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 12:30:32

    Jeff:

            Hope you don't mind another Trekkie barging in, but this is the
    prediction I made on another board:

    OK, the Enterprise's deflector dish is not powerful enough to blow up the
    Borg ship--they go back into warp and leave the Enterprise behind.  The Borg
    encounter the Federation Fleet and are stopped at that point by the combined
    power of the Fleet.  The Enterprise catches up, and a rescue party beams
    aboard the Borg ship.  They find Picard, and somehow beam him back to the
    Enterpise.  Then, the combined Fleet uses their deflector dishes to blow the
    Borg out of the sky.  Then, Dr. Crusher manages to successfully "de-implant"
    the Borg materials from the Captain.  Of course, the main problem I see ther
    is that if Picard is "attached" to the Borg, he might die when the Borg ship
    is destroyed.  But, anyway, that would certainly fill an hour episode.

    My wife and I were speculating on whether they were going to get rid of
    Picard or Reiker--it looked like Reiker at first, but obviously, right now,
    Picard is not in the best position.  Maybe they do get rid of Picard (the
    weapon works and the Borg are blown up) and the rest of the hour episode is
    how they develop a way of defeating the Borg without either 1) Q, or 2)
    blowing up their own deflector dish everytime they run into a Borg ship.

    James>>>

    Message: 67028
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Jeff/Devry
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 13:07:57

    Jeff, I hate to put a damper on anyone's enthusiasm, but don't be mislead by
    what anyone tells you about DeVry or anyother non-accredited Technical
    Institute.  Major employers, who pay the "lucrative" salaries for systems
    analysts, do not hire Tech School grads for anything except aide positions.
    Even our janatorial service contracter won't hire them!  (joke)

         I graduated from a Technical institute 25 years ago.  Over the years,
    the attitude of indusrty towards current T.S. grads has turned sour.  Most
    of us have had to go back to school and earn a "real" BS and/or MS in order
    to advance.  Go to ASU.  I repeat.  Go to ASU.  Do not collect $200, do not
    listen to DeVry, Go to ASU!

                                                       ****  Gary   ****

    Message: 67029
    Author: Hans Glans
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Grapes in the UK
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 13:20:49

    Maybe that has nothing to do with the overall global temperature, but a
    shift in the gulf stream? You do know that that is why England is as
    temperate as it is?

    Message: 67030
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Hans/evap.cooler
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 16:20:01

    The house I live in is rather large (6 bedrooms) and was built in the late
    forties.  To air condition it would cost near $1,000 a month, I figure.

    You are correct though, when humidity starts up the best thing to do is
    pinch the water lines to restrict flow and use really good Patton fans
    throughout the house.  We have shade trees and both the front and rear of
    our house has large sun/shade awnings (3 layers on top) to keep the
    foundation cooler.  I insulated the attics several years ago and that helps
    quite a lot.

    Actually, over the past several years we have had cooler summers instead of
    hotter ones.  I also have a duct system in the main house and we vent it to
    the outside in the summer.

    Message: 67031
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: James White
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 16:26:40

    You gave me 50 years to live.  That I do not understand.  Did you visit a
    fortune teller or something.  I could die in the next five minutes.  Where
    did you come up with this figure or is that what you gave yourself.

    Each day I expect to die and when I don't then oh well, I make the best of
    it.  It is not that I desire to die but knowing full well that it is a real
    possibility the thought is certainally no stanger to me.

    Somehow I doubt that I will be around in this form in fifty years.

    Message: 67032
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: For Daryl (Bob,3:12)
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 16:29:48

    The forest fire in the White Mountains is most unfortunate for the many
    people who live there.  Too bad that lives were lost in the process as well
    as the many homes destroyed.

    But looking at the affair from a standpoint of evolution, being detached
    and thinking of the next billion or so earth years as a mere drop in the
    universal bucket, so to speak, then I can not express surprise.

    As I previously stated, "Mother Nature takes no pity or shows any remorse
    for her victims."  Mother Nature treats all species of animal the same.
    She will burn the baby rabbit as well as the baby human.  To Her all is
    equal in this domain.  Nothing is sacred.

    But looking at the tragedy from a Christian's viewpoint I have come to
    some of the following conclusions.  The ones who died in the fire many have
    been "born again" and are therefore now in heaven instead of a dingy prison.
    They are, no doubt many times better off being with their Father.  Besides
    they may have been there on drug related crimes or at least the odds say
    they were.  If they all did not find reward in heaven then surely they
    deserved what they got.

    The homes that were destroyed was perhaps a sign from God, a message or
    perhaps as punishment for a previous deed or just to bring more converts
    into the fold.  No mortal can fully understand these mysterious ways of the
    Lord.

    The atheist viewpoint would go something like this.  Don't build your
    house on a flood plain, over a fault line or too near tall timber because
    eventually there will be a fire, a flood and an earthquake.  Mother Nature
    doesn't give one wit about God's eternal plan and her fangs, somewhere on
    this small globe are shown almost daily.  Nothing is ever spared not even
    the little children who are praying in a church, any church.   -Rod

    Message: 67034
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dean/dogs/hair
    Date: 06/28/90  Time: 16:33:41

    If the SPCA becomes bored with the current method of killing the dogs and
    cats then they could relieve that boredom by shaving all of the hair from
    the critters and putting them out in the summer weather or wait until winter
    and do the same.  Arf,arf.

    Now that Beauregard Dog is back perhaps he can add his two cents worth.
    A firsthand account no doubt.
            See you around the universe
                    Rod

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