### Apollo BBS Archive - July 8, 1987

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    Message: 1503
    Author: $ God Jehovah
    Category: BEHOLD! .....
    Subject: JT
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 12:14:20

            Pride goes before destruction,
            And a haughty spirit before stumbling,
            It is better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly,
            Than to divide the spoil with the proud.

                            GOD

    Message: 1504
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: JT
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 14:34:40

    Have you found someone lower than you?

    Message: 1505
    Author: $ Dean McCarron
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: God. . .
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 14:52:41

    So, Cliff, what's he look like, and did he buy his status with cash or
    check?

    Dean

    Message: 1506
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last...
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 19:00:09

            You mean GOD has graced this system with his presence?
    How wonderful!!!

            Ya know the other day I found ten dollars in my driveway...  I
    wonder if that means anything?

    Cliff

    Message: 1507
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/Circus
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 20:29:10

    No Cliff, you were there alone.  All those other people were figments of
    your imagination.

    Message: 1508
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Michelle Reynolds
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 22:02:55

    Sorry, I am not a computer geek.  But I like you anyway.

    Message: 1509
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: God Jehovah
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 23:13:12

    Just think - this is the only BBS that not only has one God but two!!
    I'd better confess my sins quick!!

    Message: 1510
    Author: $ John Henry
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Monty
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 23:51:57

    So, you've got the bird on the bed...

    Swing "Dat Hamma
     -John Henry

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    Message: 1088
    Author: $ John Henry
    Category: Night-Life
    Subject: Yawn...
    Date: 07/09/87  Time: 00:00:51

    Babooshka Babooshka....

    Hi, I'm Bucky Goldstien.  Glad to meet you.

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    Message: 44968
    Author: $ Mark Adkins
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann/Rod
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 02:38:21

    Just had to be a smart guy, didn't you Rod? Alright, I scanned the back
    messages, and what Ann actually said (in message #44862) was "my Dad could
    lick his Dad anytime". So, worse than being a shoe fetishist, apparently her
    dad is a practicing homosexual, and Ann arranges dates for him (that WAS a
    joke).

                      Mark

    P.S. Hey Rod, I left a tooth under my pillow for the wombat one night, and
    the next morning when I woke up, instead of a quarter I found an autographed
    picture of Gene Siskol and a bag of feces. I framed the picture, but what I
    really want to know is; can I open a passbook account in your bank? (not
    about to let you live it down),

    Mark (again)

    Message: 44969
    Author: $ Nikki Kalua
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Womenpay
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 08:09:20

    James, you are using bad stats.  Even if they are from a relible source,
    which you did not state, they are slanted in your favor.
         What ages does this cover?  Meaning that most women DO get married and
    usually early.  If we take one generation, almost 40% get married out of
    high school.  Then there are some that go on to college and get married
    while in school. And then the rest get married after getting a degree or
    shortly there after.  So, after 18, there is a decline in the number of
    single women, a big one, and then after 22 there are hardly any (15-25%).
    The jobs that younger people do aren't usually career oriented.  Many teens
    and college students only hold minimum wage jobs, like say, delivering
    pizzas.  So, the average of girls against the guys in these age groups is
    going to be very close, if not the same (for pay) because they start at
    3.35.  After college is when most people start their careers, and over half
    of the female population IS married by then.

    Message: 44970
    Author: $ Nikki Kalua
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 08:14:18

    A feminist is anyone that believes women should be treated fairly and
    equally under the law.

    Message: 44971
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Origin of Jesus
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 08:31:50

      From *Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary*, 1980 edition, abbreviations
    expanded.

    Late Latin, from Greek *Iesous*, from Hebrew *Yeshua*.

      I think that the Spanish took the name from the Bible, and used the
    Spanish language pronounciation rules to come out with "Hey-soos."  Many
    "English" names have been take from the Bible, like Mark, Mathew, Luke,
    etc., and have become so familiar that they seem like part of the language.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 44972
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Entertainment/Movies
    Subject: *Spaceballs*
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 08:38:56

      Pretty much a typical Mel Brooks film.  A few intensely funny parts (you
    should see what they do to *Alien*!), and many intensely dumb parts.  It is
    mainly a spoof of *Star Wars*, with bits on *Alien*, *Star Trek*, and
    *Planet of the Apes*.  Go see it, but see a cheap show.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 44973
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod/Mark
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 10:31:56

    Stop already with the shoe licking (hahaha, chortle, sniker) posts AND I'm
    not gonna get into this woman thing with you too Rod. James is enough and I
    can't add to it. Carol an Nikki are doing a good job at the moment. Besides
    - I never know when your kidding or not!! I know there is a BIG difference
    between men and women. Hahahahaha Pun intended!!! --- Ann

    Message: 44974
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Alan/Jesus
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 10:33:02

    THANK you for clearing up the Jesus questions. -- Ann

    Message: 44975
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Nikki/fems
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 10:33:51

    Ok - if you put it that way - I'm a feminist then and proud of it!! - Ann

    Message: 44976
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mark/media
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 10:45:43

    Yeah, I've heard a lot of complaints of media bias where Mecham is conserned
    - half way didn't believe it, but now I do! I can't figure out how it
    effects Ev if his aid molested anyone. RECALL EV?? I don't know about that.
    At first I kinda liked him - at least he didn't act like a politician - now,
    he's not making any sense in very much of anything. I do like his stand
    against the press though which I think is his right to do. But to recall him
    --- we could be trading a "Horse's Patoot" for an "Elephant's Patoot"!!
    Babbitt? Babbitt who?

    Message: 44977
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: ANYONE
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 10:47:12

    I downloaded a program call Thedraw. Does anyone know about it? It appears
    to be some sort of drawing program - but for what? -- Ann

    Message: 44978
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Mecham
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 11:51:00

            Might it be that one of the reasons it appears that Mecham seems to
    make 'no sense' is that the news media will not print anything that does
    make sense?????
            Talking to Mecham in person will change your mind.

    Message: 44979
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Debit Card
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 13:13:22

            I just heard an advertisement on the radio dealing with a
                    VISA - DEBIT card ......
            Does anyone out there realize the danger in having the 'Debit Card'
    an accepted practice in America????

            Here is a quote from a Book, "Money", written apx. in 1970 by two
    advisors of the Federal Reserve System:
            "More in keeping with the twenty-first century will be a vast
    nationwide balance sheet and clearing system, in which debits and credits
    can be rung up virtually instantaneously be electronic impulse. Every
    individual and every transacting organization of whatever sort will be
    tagged at birth with a number and a slot on the 'books' of a computerized
    nationwide accounting and payments system, a National Ledger as it were.
            "... its introduction depends more on costs and financial
    evaluations regarding its profitability than on purely technological
    considerations.
            "There are obvious advantages inherent in its being a governmental
    function. For example, as matters now stand, employees of the Communist
    Party USA are not permitted to receive social security benefits. If they and
    other malcontents could also be denied access to the National Ledger, and
    thus barred from making or receiving payments of any sort, the American Way
    of Life could be made evenr more Secure."
            ------- My advice is NOT to use the new VISA-DEBT card -------
    Let's make it an unprofitable venture ..... They will quit (for now).

    Message: 44980
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Life
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 18:29:48

    ...
      There is an underlying force that drives together the
    several creatures comprising myxotricha, and then drives the
    assemblage into union with the termite.  If we could
    understnad this tendency, we would catch a glimpse of the
    process that brought single separate cells together for the
    construction of metazoans, culminating in the invention of
    roses, dolphins, and, or course, ourselves.  It might turn
    out that the same tendency underlies the joining of
    organisms into communities, communities into ecosystems, and
    ecosystems into the biosphere.  If this is, in fact, the
    drift of things, the way of the world, we may come to view
    immune reactions, genes for the chemical marking of self,
    and perhaps all reflexive responses of aggression and
    defense as secondary developments in evolution, necessary
    for the regulation and modulation of symbiosis, not designed
    to break into the process, only to keep it from getting out
    of hand.

    Message: 44981
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann/Hitler
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 21:05:51

    I don't know what superstitions Hitler believed, other than those which were
    embodied in National Socialism.

    Message: 44982
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann/women
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 21:16:05

    If you are treated unfairly because you are a woman, you certainly have a
    reasonable grievance against the person who so treats you.  This does not,
    however, mean it is reasonable for you to draw sweeping conclusions about
    the way society treats women.  We all suffer from time to time because of
    the personal prejucices of others; to say that this makes us "not free" is
    absurd, as is postulating a grand social conspiracy against you or your
    group.

    There is no good reason why women should be considered a minority, or why
    anyone should be given preferential treatment on the basis of their
    membership in a racial, sexual, or other such group.

    Message: 44983
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Melissa
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 21:35:29

    But that is precisely the point.  Married men pursue their careers much more
    aggressively than married women, bringing the average up for men and down
    for women.  Thus, it is not discrimination that accounts for the vast
    majority of the so-called pay gap, but rather the individual choices of
    millions of men and women.

    Message: 44984
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Feminism
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 22:00:26

    Unfortunately, too few feminists also believe men should be treated fairly
    and equally under the law.

    Message: 44985
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Sandy/Ev
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 23:00:58

    I think I was born disliking politicians. The last one I liked was J.F.K.
    and that was a LONG time ago. My husband also met Mechem and felt the same
    way you do. I had a wee bit of faith in him at the beginning, but he seems
    to be cutting his own throat. I also don't like the idea of him being Morman
    either. Knowing the Morman religion reather well, I can't help but feel it
    will influence his thinking and I believe church and state should NEVER mix.
    Also, I do not read the Republic's articles on him much except to notice how
    they are trying to make him look bad. Personally - I'd reather vote for
    Clint! Ha - at least he'd be something to look at!!! OOPS! Sorry - I got
    side tracked. Anyway - what are the alternitives if we recall him. Thats
    scarey enough to keep him in office!! -- Ann

    Message: 44986
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: James/again!
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 23:05:44

    Sorry James - I feel "not free" in our society because of the reasons I've
    given. I think these things happen more than :from time to time".
    Your right - there is no good reason women shold be considered a minority
    What you have been saying - I would love to agree with and do agree - but as
    long as these situations prevail - and I feel they do - ---- what more can I
    say on the subject? --- Ann

    Message: 44987
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: James/married
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 23:06:59

    Who told you married men pursue their carreers much more aggressively than
    married women?

    Message: 44988
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: James/fems
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 23:08:35

    I don't know about feminists - but I believe everyone should be treated
    fairly and equally under the law. I would argue the point just as strong if
    I was talking about men. --- ANN

    Message: 44989
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Shippy
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 23:24:18

      I understand that he was not an aide and had no connection with Mecham
    other than what he chose to do on his own. I heard Mecham say on the radio
    today that Shippy should have been smart enough to know that anyone who has
    anything to do with him will be thoroughly investigated by the Republic.
    Since he was not employed by them Mecham's people had never run any checks
    on him.
      See you later,
       Dean

    Message: 44990
    Author: $ John Henry
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Shippy
    Date: 07/08/87  Time: 23:50:23

    If the Guv's office had checked on The Kipper, would they have
     found the transgression?

    If so, would they have hired him anyway?  Hmm?

    Swing 'Dat Hamma
     -John Henry

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