### Apollo BBS Archive - July 11, 1990

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    Mail from Jeff Beck
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 01:29:06

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    That's an idea in itself; think of "God's epigrams."  Of course, they *must*
    outrage the fanatics.
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     1:It was Jeff Lochansky who quoted god, not I.  I read his messages because
     2:they contain humor although I don't think it is intentional on his part.
     3:
     4:Jasmine had a baby girl this evening at 8:25 and weighed 7pds. 11 oz.  It's
     5:birthdate was 7-11-90 of course.  Whew!
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    Message: 3999
    Author: $ Gordon Little
    Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
    Subject: Indoor Golf
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 12:29:06

    Thanks for the indoor golf lesson, Mr. Dog, and well played!

    This was a new one on me, but I mentioned it to my neighbor, and she said
    that when she was about fourteen somebody gave her a piece of paper with
    some story about golf on it that everybody thought was funny.  She tucked
    it in her purse, and later her mother found it and gave her hell for it.
    It turned out that it was the same set of rules (to her recollection).
    What galled her the most was that at the tender age of 14 she didn't even
    UNDERSTAND the joke (whereas her mother of course did!)  This was almost
    35 years ago, so these rules have quite a pedigree.

    Similarly, the celebrated First Time at the Dentist story is the better
    part of three decades old (if not more), because *I* caught hell for
    passing that one round the class when I was at school.

    Message: 4000
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
    Subject: Gordon
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 16:41:54

    Trip to the dentist, eh?  Well, why don't you post that on here to keep the
    story cycling.

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    Message: 1366
    Author: $ Jeff Beck
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last/don't forget...
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 01:57:04

    Some jeweler's saws, a coke bottle, and 14 rubber balls.

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    Message: 848
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Filmography
    Subject: Rob Riener
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 09:23:39

    (I probably didn't spell his name right, but)
    What a great director.  I watched two of his films yesterday. _Sure Thing_
    and _Stand By Me_.  I also managed to get _Princess Bride_ on the same tape
    but thought that after 4 hours of TV viewing, I should try to make a
    productive day.
    So, anyone have a job for me that pays well that doesn't include walking
    around with my top off?

    Message: 849
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Melissa
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 11:50:08

    Re:  "I also managed to get _Princess Bride_ on the same tape"

    I watched that the other day on tv.  It was the second time.  I liked the
    movie, but I also like poetic justice and there wasn't enough of it in the
    end of the movie.  The king should have died some horrible death to make up
    for all the injustices he had done.  And I thought the hero under went too
    much torture.  Heroes should have limits on how bad things can get.

    I don't want reality; I want jutice!

    Message: 850
    Author: $ Jeff Beck
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: a job for Mel
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:56:02

    I'll pay you 2p. a day to shave my back.

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    Message: 67382
    Author: $ Jeff Beck
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Melville
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 01:36:54

    I know absolutely nothing about his personal life.  I can say, however, that
    Moby Dick is complete rubbish.

    Message: 67383
    Author: $ Jeff Beck
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cummings/evolution
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 01:50:58

    Well, I see it as a change from the less to the more complex.  You could
    call this development, but some might not.  The word development is value
    laden, and while from a subjective standpoint I might agree that we are
    superior to, say, some sort of animalcules, from a cosmological standpoint,
    or perhaps (in my darker moods) from a philosophical standpoint, I might
    disagree.  We have so much more potential than do amoeba, but potential for
    what?  I would argue that this universe cannot possibly be the result of the
    work of a benevolent being -- it cannot even be the result of a rational
    being.  Ever stop to consider how wasteful, blundering and cruel nature
    is, John?
    But aside from moral questions, there is nothing inherent in the change (or
    development even) from simple to complex to necessitate rational guidance.
    As I pointed out, a snowflake is an excellent example of chaotic processes
    which can give rise to detail and order.  You are begging the question.  You
    are so caught up in the illusion that thought is required for order (not to
    mention the exclusive domain of man (and of course the God you have created
    in your image)) that you cannot conceive of order without thought.  Your
    argument is tautologous; order is the product of thought therefore order is
    the evidence of thought.  I say that it is not, and neither is natural
    evolution.

    Message: 67384
    Author: $ Jeff Beck
    Category: Joke
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 02:00:04

    And your little dog, too!!

    Message: 67385
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
    Subject: Oh, drat!
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 02:34:38

            On the 28th I'm going to be 2000 miles away.... oh, well.  Have a
    nice time.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 67386
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Homosexuality
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 02:49:30

    Lesbians are in the lowest risk group for AIDS, ranking below heterosexuals.
    I keep hearing people insist that AIDS is a sign of sin.  I suppose this
    means that lesbians are especially blessed.
            AIDS isn't caused by homosexuality; it's caused by the HIV virus.
    Anal sex, practiced by persons of any sexual preference, can spread it, and
    this is how (besides dirty needles) heterosexuals get it.
            True, anal sex puts a person at risk, and treating AIDS is going to
    cost a lot of money.  But then, treating cancer that's caused by smoking
    costs ten times as much, and it's lifestyle related too.  I wonder what the
    smokers would do if the government refused to fund cancer research becasue
    any smoker that gets it has only himself to blame.
            Yeah, I hear people all the time saying how they don't want some
    homosexual teacher molesting their child.  Since they specificaly say
    homosexual child molester, I must assume that a heterosexual child molester
    would be okay.  After all, if they didn't want any child molesters, they'd
    not exclude the heterosexual child molesters by specifying only "homosexual
    child molesters."

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
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    Message: 67387
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Owls
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 02:59:29

            The protection of the owl is not specificaly for the owl itself.
    It's being used as an indicator species, which means that if it isn't making
    it, a lot of other species aren't making it either.
            And there is NOT a huge shortage of trees.  What the timer industry
    is really after is getting trees off federal land for far less than what
    they're worth, and they're using their employees as a bargining chip:  keep
    up the subsidies, or we fire all our workers.  The trees that they would
    have gotten can be replaced by trees logged off private land that are now
    being exported.  The Japanese are just going to have to start recycling
    their chopsticks.
            I suppose you could consider the mass extinctions natural, if you
    want to make humans a part of nature.  But keep this in mind:  the
    natural correction for a species that kills off mass numbers of other
    species is that it ruins its own environment and dies off.  If you don't
    mind seeing humans become extinct, then yeah, go ahead and kill off every
    other living thing.  I'd prefer to stick around for a while, myself.

         /
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    Message: 67388
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: 150,000th Caller
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 06:04:23

            One thing Cliff failed to mention in his post noting that I
    had been Apollo's 150,000th caller was that that distinction was
    rewarded with special Blue $tatus.  That's lifetime $tatus with
    no renewal fees, ever.  In my case that's likely to be a value of
    nearly $13.00!
            I really do enjoy Apollo.  I log onto eight BBSes each week,
    plus BIX and Compu$erve (my monthly CI$ bill is usually around
    $50).  Apollo is the only one of these I try to log onto each
    and every day.  It's well worth $12 a year and I'd like to
    continue to provide that small bit of financial support.
            So, what Cliff and I have worked out is the Bill Burkett
    Apollo Foundation.  Using my Blue $tatus, I wish to provide a
    grant each year of one year's regular $tatus to a non-$tatus user
    of Apollo.  I, alone, will choose who receives this grant each
    year.
    (continued)

    Message: 67389
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: 150K Caller - 2
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 06:05:05

            There will be only two restrictions on this grant:

            (1)     The grantee must log onto Apollo regularly.

            (2)     Any messages posted by the grantee in the non-Cosmos
                    areas of Apollo must meet general standards of civil
                    discourse.  I have in mind the types of things so
                    thoroughly discussed a few weeks ago.  I will be the
                    sole judge of any violations of this standard, although
                    in Cliff, as SysOp, may impose any other sanctions he
                    feels are needed against the grantee.

            If either of these conditions is violated, $tatus will, at
    my sole discretion, be withdrawn and another non-$tatus user of
    the system will receive the remainder of that year's grant.  In
    any case, a new grantee will be announced each year on Apollo's
    birthday.
            My hope in offering this grant is that it will get others
    "hooked" on Apollo and, in some small way, help increase the
    subscribing membership.
            The first grantee will be announced on Apollo's upcoming
    birthday, July 31, 1990.

    Message: 67390
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 09:42:39

    Re:  "I wonder what type of pen God would use"

    Oh, oh.  You slipped up and capitalized "God."  You better watch out or
    Satan will get mad at you!

    Message: 67391
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 09:44:37

    Re:  "JAPAN.ZIP"

    I would love to download it and read it, but I can't unstuff it on a Mac.
    Can you give us an unstuffed version?

    Message: 67392
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie on homosexuals
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 09:49:49

    I think you have they all figured out, and I agree with you.

    Now, what to do about it?

    Message: 67393
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie on taxes
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 09:52:18

    Re:  "I cannot believe you believe in 'sin taxes'!!!"

    Well, I don't know if I would call it a "sin" tax.  But I wanna be nice to
    you, so I won't tell you what I would rather call it.  How about
    "entertainment" tax?

    Message: 67394
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 09:55:47

    Re:  "But isn't the definition of a prostitute as one that sells 'it' and
    the definition of a whore is one that will give it away - to anybody that
    asks?"

    I don't think there is a difference.  One name is just considered a nicer
    name for sell 'it' as you say.

    Message: 67395
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gordon
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 09:58:46

    Re:  ""Oh, YUCK!  Just think!  Can you IMAGINE doing that?  EUUURRRGGGHHH!"
    Perhaps if that nauseating reaction didn't take place, people wouldn't have
    such a horror of homosexuality"

    My sentiments exactly.

    Message: 67396
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 10:01:14

    Re:  "I always held out for 'a fur coat or two' myself!"

    Hmmmmm.  How many fur coats you got now Annie?

    :-)  (-:  :-)  (-:  :-)  :-)  (-:  :-)  (-:  :-)  (-:  :-)  (-:

    Message: 67397
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Melissa
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 10:04:10

    Re:  "I know 3 gay men who say that they wont be a part of anal sex."

    How very sanitary of them!  Hmmmmm.

    Message: 67398
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 10:05:56

    Re:  "The file size ZIPped is only 74K, but in ASCII form it will be about
    192K.  Can you handle this? Anyone else?"

    Thanks Cliff!  What will you name it?

    Message: 67399
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last on Japan.TXT
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 11:13:09

            Okay, I placed a TXT version in the ibrary for a SHORT time.
    It is not listed, but ask for JAPAN.TXT and you will get the ASCII version.
    For you people who can use ZIP...ask for JAPAN.ZIP, as it will be much
    quicker.

            Dog, can you set Mr Thornburg up with the ZIP files?  Maybe at the
    Apollo B-Day GT?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    Message: 67400
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
    Subject: Apollo B-Day (28th)
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 11:20:46

            For those who plan to attend the Apollo B-Day GT, you not bring
    a THING but yourselves.  However..if you have a drink preference, you may
    wish to bring that.  Mr Slone needs no gifts...  it is not that kind of
    B-Day party. (Besides, he has everything)

            There will be NO 'illegal' drugs of any kind permitted.  I don't
    even want jokes about bringing such drugs.   But then again, I know no one
    on Apollo uses such stuff.... Right!   We get HIGH on BBSing!

            Take care, and see you at the GT...  Those who are coming, but do
    not know my address... please leave me MAIL in the ost Office, and I will
    give you directions.  Or, call me at 843-3346......

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    P.S.  I think it is Ann who is jumping out of the cake!

    Message: 67401
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 11:44:15

    Thanks Cliff!  I got the Japan download.  It only took a little over 16
    minutes at 2400 baud.

    Message: 67402
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Burkett/joke
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 13:12:25

    That's the funniest thing I've seen on Apollo in a loooong time. Keep up
    the good work, Bill.

    Message: 67403
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff / Japan Book
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 13:55:57

    Even ARCing it would be fine.

    Thanks in advance.

    Daryl

    Message: 67404
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod / Your Last Two
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 14:19:51

        I liken your last post (as well as most of your posts including your
    zapped diatribe) to a sadist who, rather than beating up on the person in
    whom his hatred lies [Person A], decides instead to tie up that person's
    best friend [Person B], and stab HIM in the gut while watching Person A's
    horrified reaction with a sick glee.
        However, your thrashing of the 'Person B' in my life is only words.
    Petty, vengeful, hateful, arrogant words. And you said it yourself that you
    could not wait to see the expressions on the faces of us "hillbillies."
        You know, if our messages REALLY bothered you, you would have the good
    sense to [S]kip over them without so much as a second thought. But you know
    they don't bother you. You love them. You love every single opportunity you
    can get your hands on, to slice and dice Christians with your heartless
    rants. But either our opinions actually DO mean something to you, or you are
    just so insecure that you have to read our posts just so you can mock them
    and in doing so reassure in your unstable mind that God doesn't exist. If
    you were so sure of it, you would just laugh it off, without wasting any
    time on replying.
        Which one is it, Roddie-kins?
        And make no mistake. You were the one that fired up the verbal chainsaw.
        If you are so interested in living your own life, then laugh us off. You
    needn't have to pump yourself up by making sure you cut everyone else down
    first.

    Daryl

    Message: 67405
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
    Subject: Ann takes the cake
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 16:45:40

    Ahhhh.  And I even bought a new teddy just for the occation.
    Well, I guess since she baked it, she gets first dibs on jumping out of it.

    Message: 67406
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: My Dinner with...
    Subject: Rod Williams
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 17:55:30

        The following are posts that were recently posted here on Apollo by Rod.
    I repost them, for the benefit of those who didn't get a chance to peruse
    this "volume of understanding" by Apollo's expert on brotherly love.
        I have included verse numbers before each sentence, as my replies to
    his posts cross-reference these numbered sentences in Rod's post.
        You are about to read more than was initally posted. Rod wrote the
    additional material in mail to me, although there is nothing in the posts
    that I deemed to be private.
        If you are easily offended by blasphemy, I pre-warn you about part 5.
    Rod claims to have zapped his original messages so as not to offend. But,
    this etc. to his inital posts is far more offensive than his original posts.
    All profanity has been edited.

    Message: 67407
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Rod - The Lost Posts
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 17:56:29

    1)You gotta be kidding.  What is it about a Jesus that you don't understand?
    2)If there was such a person then why worship or spend time on the dead?
    3)The man next to you is a brother, an animal that is equal to every other
    animal in the universe.

    4)I don't get it, you thrust a myth of death over having fun and enjoying
    your Brother.

    5)You are so busy living in the past but it is possible to snap out of it.
    6)I did.

    7)It is a crutch of the temporary scared but your freedoms end where my nose
    begins.

    8)If you think that YOU are made in your gods image then what does your god
    look like, You or Me?

    9)Wake up and smell the caffeine or beef fat?

    10)I love you as a brother and openly admit that. 11) You, Daryl Westfall,
    have a savior in a fairly interesting myth/story but I am not a myth.
    12)I am real and so are you.

    13)Wanna go out and glue some sticks together?  We can make them in the form

    Message: 67408
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: The Lost Posts [2/5]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 17:59:02

    of crosses and use them to scare the Vampires away.  Good idea, by Jove!

    14)It is people caring about people without having the dead, which we
    probably are a part of, taking up some premimum time that we could be
    spending with people, planting the corn or something to that tune.

    Bob (C1, v.1-56)
    15)And he saith to him, out of the desert land, that Jerimian Johnson our
    holy JJ, protector of protectors.  Bob continues, he speaketh bull crap out
    of  his jaw, about Jerimiah Johnson and Son.

    16)Well Daryl, you see that above paragraph is what, in essense, your old
    dead book says. 17)Get a new book, one by Mark Twain and they were written a

    hundred years ago.

    18)Why are you so freaked out? 19)Don't be afraid to admit it....I've sure
    been there a few times.  20)I looked for myself and have traveled a lot of
    paths and I am still on one but what you are serving is death and hell
    because hell is an integral part of your religion. 21)I don't have a hell
    in my outlook either for myself or anyone else, nay, not a thing shall
     burn into pain forever and ever sayath the bob and the anti-bob. 22)So,
    get a life, my friend and make that life, life, got it?!!!
    23) This ain't g'by now, cause I am your brother, but ain't your ma.

    Message: 67409
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: The Lost Posts [3/5]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:04:58

    23)So, you see, Daryl, I let go one night, got too loose and out of
    consideration to all I zapped the previous messages.

    24)When you do find the truth it will not include some deep dark mystery
    that reads like a scary sci-fi story. 25)It will not include death and
    hell for anything but instead love
    divine.
    26)Yeah, yeah, I know, people put themselves in eternal hell....sure..sure.

    27)It will not include any type of gnashing of teeth or hurt that lingers
    instead it will be equality of the masses.

    28)It will be people helping people and that to me is heaven.  29)It will
    not be "the chosen few" but the chosen many with not a feeling life-form
    taking blame or misery on account of "it says so."

    30)You have allowed yourself to be tricked into accepting this crutch and
    that is fine as long as, later on, you learn just what it was. 31)Life can
    be good but the religions of the world keep mans hearts and souls divided as
    can be.  32)All ideology is false except that which says that all are equal,
    are on the same small ship sailing through space and what one suffers, all
    33)We've got to help each other and the best, most compatent method is the
    scientific approach, not the religious one. 34) Scientific minded people the
    world over have everything in common but those with religious

    Message: 67410
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: The Lost Posts [4/5]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:11:00

    hard-ons have only disdain for each other because their narrow belief system
    stands in the way, clouds their minds with pretension and falsehood from
    ages past.  35)Science is that of learning new and different things. Reli-
    gion the same old tired way that bears no fruit other than corruption.

    36)Scientists the world over can and do work together for common causes whi-
    involve helping a troubled planet.  37)People of religion are on too many
    ch separate wavelengths to be able to develop anything of worth.38)People of
    religion pray, light candles, or spin wheels to invoke a solution and have
    been doing it from ages past all to to avail.  39)It doesn't work and never
    did but I suppose it satisfies the masses and keeps them out of mischief.

    40)All you can do is quote from some old book that is never updated. 41)How
    would the human animal know if Satan changed his mind and came back into
    the fold?  42)It's probably the most ridiculous book ever written and has,
    no doubt, held the human animal back in his evolving to a more intelligent
    state.  43)I'm sure that because of it many a life has been ended unjustly.

    44)Many early scientists were brutally tortured for being heretic and today
    it
    is not that much different.  45)Religion has always held truth back but litt
    is not that much different. 45)Religion has always held truth back but
    little by little people are beginning to awake and see the real light, not
    the darkness of hell and threat of punishment.

    Message: 67411
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: The Lost Posts [5/5]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:13:20

    46)It appears that religion has got you firmly by the gonads and is extrac-
    ting a price that will later in life become evident, perhaps. 47)Trade your
    crutches in on the one I have found.  I went through the religion bullcrap
    and am very glad to be rid of it.  48)My crutch is scientific thought.

    49)If your god can put me in his hell then so be it.  50)But if that little
    bastard thinks he can play fairy tale games with a certain percentage of his
    creation then I publicly spit in his face. I smear it with feces and look
    him straight in the eye, eyeball to eyeball and simply say:

         51)Go f--- yourself God, you are s---.  You are the worst kind of
    disease of earth.  You are poison.  You are evil.  You are a mealy-mouthed
    mother f----- and you suck big, moldy dog c----.

          So do with me what you will if you think you are MAN enough because I
    happen to think of you as simply a blowing fart in the wind.

    52)Well Daryl, that last part is about as un-scientific as one can get and I
    apollogize to you if I have offended.  53)I'm just making a point. 53)Love,
    Rod

    Message: 67412
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: My Replies [1/7]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:14:07

    1) Excuse me, but what is it about Jesus that you UNDERSTAND? Obviously not
    much.

    2) Excuse me...DEAD? Your ignorance of Christian beliefs is already shining,
    Rod.

    3) In other words, we are no more or less intelligent or important than a
    sewer rat or a cockroach. Gee, what blissful knowledge.

    4) Gee, you mean I'm not having fun in my life? And what's this death stuff
    you keep talking about? My Lord is alive, homeboy. And what exactly do you
    mean by ENJOYING my Brother? Shall you consult the book of bob on that one?

    5) Living in the past? Which one of us keeps looking for "monkey's uncles?"

    6) "Snapped" is right. Out of what, I have no idea.

    7) The temporary scared, huh? Well, then what about those who died for
    Christ?
    If they were truly scared of anything, why would they even bother? I don't
    have a spirit of fear. (Ro 8.15 - "Oh, no...he's quoting from that OLD BOOK
    again, AUGH!" Yep. Deal with it.) And who said I was infringing on your
    rights? Just because I might share a little truth with you doesn't mean that
    it has to affect your life of denial. That is unless you let it, sweetie.)

    Message: 67413
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: My Replies [2/7]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:14:49

    8)  Your ignorance is showing again, Rod. Didn't you ever STUDY Genesis, and
    what being made "in God's image" means? Oops...gee. There I go. Expecting
    too much again. Sorry.

    9)  Tired cliche. Unimportant.

    10) I doubt that seriously.

    11) Purely opinion.

    12) Rather OBVIOUS, but agreed.

    13) Purposeless attempted insult, laced with more ignorance. Unimportant.

    14) Wait, you said we are probably part of "the dead," and at the same time
    you say we should not care about the dead. How many drinks DID you have that
    night?

    15) Purposeless attempted insult, highly opinionated, and ignorant of the
    subject matter it attempts to make fun of. Unimportant.

    Message: 67414
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: My Replies [3/7]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:16:53

    16) Uninformed opinion, lacking knowledge of the subject.

    17) Is there a connection here somewhere? I'm missing it.

    18) I'm not freaked. Why are you? See, I'm not the one so intent on offend-
    ing as many people as possible in my continued efforts to convince myself
    God doesn't exist. And why were you drinking when you wrote those messages?
    You confessed yourself that you had too much to rink when you typed them.
    What is missing in your life that you have to fill it with liquor?

    19) And I'm not entirely sure you've gotten back from wherever it is that
    you've been. But this is opinion and unimportant.

    20) I've found myself. I'm not looking anymore. Why are you so upset that I
    have found the Path and am content? And what do you mean by "serving" death
    and hell? By sharing the news of eternal life, I am serving death? "Highly
    illogical, Captain."

    21) Gee, how nice. On what do you base this "Bliss by Bob?"

    22) See reply #20. I hate repeating myself.

    23) Message ending. Does not require comment.

    Message: 67415
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: My Replies [4/7]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:17:30

    23) Gee, Rod. Where was your consideration when you posted these messages
    in the first place? Alcohol impairs judgment, you know.

    24) "Scary sci-fi story?" Golly, are you sure we are reading the same book?
    Perhaps you have yours turned upside down.

    25) Deceptive opinion. Tra-la-laaa...

    26) Gee, you finally got something about the Bible RIGHT. As the people in
    Mobile, Arizona say, "I'm stunned."

    27) Wishful thinking. Personal opinion.

    28) Vague.

    29) Opinion.

    30) More opinion.

    31) Oh, and these posts of yours are indicative of the love and unity so
    earnestly desired by the atheistic community? Wow. Sign me up right away.

    32) Opinion incorrectly stated as fact.

    Message: 67416
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: My Replies [5/7]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:18:00

    33) See #32.

    34) Then why don't scientists agree on everything?

    35) I have no problem with science, except when they insist upon presenting
    opinions as factual.

    36) Have you ever seen a group of scientists band together and go out to
    feed the hungry or visit the sick and lonely? These things are important
    for our world, too.

    37) Opinion.

    38) I think you meant "no avail."

    39) Atheistic opinion.

    40) It doesn't need to be updated. It speaks now just as powerfully as it
    did in the first and second centuries. You just refuse to listen.

    41) He didn't and he can't (2Pe 2.4).

    Message: 67417
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: My Replies [6/7]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:18:44

    42) See #11. Didn't you call it a "fairly interesting myth/story?" Why do
    you refuse to be consistent? It helps one's credibility, you know.

    43-
    44) Most Christians have no qualms with scientists, and many take advantage
    of the benefits of science. We disagree insomuch in the theory of the origin
    of the world. You don't like Christianity being 'forced down your throat?'
    We don't like evolution being taught in our schools as fact.

    45) Purely opinion. You need to stop this, it can become habitual.

    46) A happy and fulfilling life, perhaps.

    47) You replaced "religion bullcrap" for science-worship.

    48) And you called it
    a crutch, as well. I'm glad that my life isn't concerned with seeking out
    the "crutch-of-the-month-club."

    Message: 67418
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: My Replies [7/7]
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:21:26

    49-
    51) Immature, venomous tirade. Someone who is so sure of himself as you
    claim to be, wouldn't waste his time on such childish tantrums with God.
    You have just proven who it is that needs to grow up, learn about love, and
    get a life.

    52) I do not accept insincere apologies. You MEANT to offend, and you know
    it. It's one of those things that you seem to live for.

    53) Learn what the word means.

    There. No one can say I dodged any single issue in that message.

    Message: 67419
    Author: $ Jeff Beck
    Category: Joke
    Subject: Mike C./Brit. slang
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:31:11

    "Both by calling and conviction Father Brown knew better than most of us
    that every man is dignified when he is dead.  But even he felt a pang of
    incongruity when he was knocked up at daybreak and told that Sir Aaron
    Armstrong had been murdered."

    Yes, that's pretty incongruous alright.

    Message: 67420
    Author: $ Jeff Beck
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: extinction
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:42:39

    There were once more passsenger pigeons than any other type of bird on the
    planet.  Two out of every five birds (40%) in North America in the early
    1800s were passenger pigeons.
    In 1813 ornithologist James Audibon saw a column of migrating pigeons so
    thick that "the light of the noonday sun was obscured as by an eclipse."
    They flew overhead for hours, and Audubon guessed that he had seen at least
    a billion birds.
    Professional hunters used large nets.  To get the birds into the net they
    used a "stool pigeon", which was a live pigeon with its eyes sewed shut and
    its feet attached to a post, or stool.  The agitated bird would attract
    other birds.
    The last great flock was captured in 1896 near Bowling Green, Ohio.  About
    five thousand birds escaped.
    These, however, died out.  Female passenger pigeons lay only one egg at a
    time.  Deforestation destroyed their habitat.  And they required "the
    incessant, thunderous backbeat of a million flapping wings" in order to get
    them in the mood for reproducing.  The last (known) passenger pigeon died at
    the Cincinnati Zoo in 1914.

    (From "Why Things Are", a syndicated column.)

    Message: 67421
    Author: $ Jeff Beck
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: AIDS
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 18:47:11

    Anal sex and dirty needles aren't the only ways for heterosexuals to get the
    disease.  Ordinary sexual intercourse can spread it.  Females are especially
    at risk because vaginal tears (created during intercourse) can provide
    access for the virus.  Of course, anal intercourse is worse still, since the
    rectal wall is far more susceptible to tearing than is the vagina.

    Message: 67422
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl on Rod
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 20:20:07

    1-99) Yes.

    Message: 67423
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Jeff B.
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 20:33:28

    It is incongruent to assume that complex processes don't require
    thought. Aside, momentarily, from evolution, one doesn't
    design an orbital vehicle by osmosis. Nor can we expect
    to comprehend a failure within that system by ignoring it.
    Onto evolution:
    You know why its still called a theory? Because no one has been
    able to *** PROVE *** it. Fanciful dabbling about all the "facts"
    doesn't prove something. Even hardline anthropologists will acknowledge
    there is not yet any sum of facts that could be accurately summed into
    proof. So lets not confuse "fact" with "fancy".
    Here we ask scientifically, what the overwhelmming physical forces
    applied to matter actually do to that matter.  Not one scientist
    can face you and tell you that a room full of dust particles will
    settle and form something more complex, like a sandcastle perhaps.
    Random bits, scattering of molecules does not maketh a universe.
    Place a sandcastle out somewhere in the wilderness, come back a few
    years later and the place you left it would have completely changed.
    There is a complex pattern that effects entropy and sometimes intervenes
    in the action of entropy. It's called life.
    And not *one* living soul on Earth can explain how it all works in
    scientific terms. So please, if you insist on insulting me for my beliefs,
    kindly accept mine for yours;
    Your brain-dead if you believe in some alzheimers infested campus roach
    who goes around feeding on taxes to babble about *your* Monekys Uncle.

    Message: 67424
    Author: $ John Cummings
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod/religion
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 20:39:17

            That's what I'm trying to do--answer your question--remember? you
    brought this up.  On to step 3, but later.   --John C.--

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     1:Gee, that's was swell.  Can we do it again?
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     3:Look, Jasmine just had our baby, a girl of 7 pds., 11oz.  We are thinking of
     4:naming her Satana?  It is sort of in your honor.
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     6:I didn't read all that stuff back there but I will.  -Rod
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     8:P.S.  The baby girl was born 16 feet from where I now sit.
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    Message: 67425
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl 1 of 78
    Date: 07/11/90  Time: 21:54:44

    Gee, that's was swell.  Can we do it again?

    Look, Jasmine just had our baby, a girl of 7 pds., 11oz.  We are thinking of
    naming her Satana?  It is sort of in your honor.

    I didn't read all that stuff back there but I will.  -Rod

    P.S.  The baby girl was born 16 feet from where I now sit.
    The children watched.
    I helped.

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