### Apollo BBS Archive - August 4, 1988

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    Message: 3979
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod...
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 23:15:59

    Ok, so there won't be a GT for us older user... Happy!

    Message: 3980
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 00:03:11

            If you changed the GT for those of us who have managed to accumulate
    a vast amount of experience ..........
            You might see some interest .........

    Message: 3981
    Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: OFGT
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 00:39:00

    Since I barely qulatify(sp) I think it would be a good idea.

                                    <<< Joe >>>

    Message: 3982
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last few
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 02:14:50

    How about a -NOT- Over The Hill GT.  For people 30 revolutions and under?

    Message: 3984
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: OFGT
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 05:49:11

    Watcha mean, drop the age to 35?
    Why let the kids in?

    Message: 3985
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Alan
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 05:49:51

    The 20th anniversary of my 39th?
    Didn't I wish!

    Message: 3986
    Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 09:27:43

       I think it ought to be a GT for short, cute, curly-haired fat guys over
    40.

    (LL)oyd Pulley

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     1:        I forgot how many revolutions I've been around the sun.  I can't see
     2:the importance of it for myself, my children or anyone else.  However, Sandy
     3:has a good point.
     4:        Besides if I come then Paul wouldn't.
     5:
     6:                                Rod
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    Message: 3988
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Believe it or not!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 11:49:45

            Of course my idea was a good idea ........

    I am a SySop.

    Message: 3989
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Peter P.
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 11:54:28

            Was that you on the corner of 51 Ave. and Northern last Tuesday at
    around 2 p.m.?
            I saw someone looking like you walking across the service station
    lot and getting into a white van.
            (shall I mention the blond that was with this fellow?)

    Message: 3990
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 20:47:34

    Was she wearing bandaids?

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    Message: 1719
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Ann/kids
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 22:01:46

    No, it was not I who had to screech tires to avoid hitting a kid on a bike.
    I drive much more sensibly than that.  You are obviously not very observant,
    as we were next to each other at the light at 35th and Greenway, and you
    didn't recognize me when you looked over.

    Reverend Beauregard Jackson Culpeper Dog, Colonel, CSA, retired

    Message: 1720
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 02:15:33

    She couldn't spot a large red penis if it was sitting in her yard.

    Message: 1721
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Beau/driving
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 06:49:59

    It's not that I'm not observant - I have a case of night blindness and can't
    see too well so I constantly look at the road ahead of me. I saw those kids
    and would have liked to have run over them to teach them a lesson - but they
    were too fast. You get 100 points for kids you know! Ta ta. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 1722
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: James/penis
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 06:50:27

    Oh - I noticed that alright! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 1723
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 20:48:17

    I'm sure it took you a couple of days to notice it.
    Message: 1724
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 23:57:55

    Then it was _you_ who put it there! Who else would know how long it sat?

    Reverend Beauregard Jackson Culpeper Dog, Colonel, CSA, retired

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     1:        Yeah James, how do you explain THAT?  Better think fast and lie.
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    Message: 53473
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Legalization
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 20:46:38

    Ann/Rod/et al:
    I think you've hit the nail on the head.  Blanket legalization of
    hard drugs certainly isn't the answer, but decriminalization for
    addicts, along with prescription doses under medical supervision
    might work.  It could be an expensive program to administer,
    though.

    How about a healthy tax on marijuana, with proceeds going to
    maintain clinics for addicts of the harder stuff.  I realize that
    there will continue to be a certain amount of abuse, if the stuff
    becomes legal, but the decrease in costs within our legal system
    would probably balance out some of the other negatives.  (Wow,
    can't you hear the lawyers scream as they lose all those clients?)

    Any governmental control on the use of drugs and their abuse
    could be along the same lines as now set up for abuse of alcohol.
    I hate to see and mind bender get preferential treatment, but I
    do agree that marijuana is probably no more damaging to physical
    and mental health than any other mind bender/distorter.  (Maybe
    we could make TV games shows illegal, too?)

    Message: 53474
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: More -
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 20:47:49

    I know that it isn't going to happen overnight, but we really
    need more intelligent dialog on the subject of drugs, and less
    emphasis on name calling and hysterical reaction.  My contention
    is still that the organized drug cartels and fundamental
    religious groups will be the groups that most violently oppose
    legalization of drugs.

    My experience with "big business" is that if there's a buck to be
    made they will be there to get it.  I'll bet that most of the
    major tobacco companies have contingency plans in place for the
    marketing of brand name marijuana products.  Can you see some
    hulking "ath-a-lete" on the TeeVee endorsing Liggett & Myers "Bay
    Gold" brand marijuana, all the time sucking on a big juicy wad of
    Copenhagen or Sweet Garrett brand processed coca leaf chew?

    I like the idea of allowing family production of MJ.  I can't see
    where allowing family production of wine or beer has seriously
    cut into Gallo or Segram's profits.  It certainly doesn't seem to
    have caused any serious upswing in alcohol abuse.  Not when the
    serious abuser can more easily buy more bottled Nirvana for a
    couple of bucks than he can ferment in his back yard tub.

    Message: 53475
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: More -
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 20:48:42

    I realize that these views don't concur with the views propounded
    in the KJV of holy writ but then it seems that very few of my
    thoughts ever come out in 16th century English anyway.   I guess
    that the Prophet of Galilee probably was acquainted with hashish
    or bhang or whatever Semitic word it was known by locally, and
    didn't feel it was any more worthwhile proscribing than He did
    wine or beer.

    Somebody else's turn now!

                                                Gary Jones

    Message: 53476
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Black Castle
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 03:38:44

    The Black Castle BBS is back up with version 5.0 of its software.  It's
    really impressive.  It's quick and powerful, yet it is running on a
    Commodore 128.  The BBS also has some good discussions on a variety of
    topics.  Its number is 843-6782.

    Message: 53477
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Nick
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 06:43:34

    You are the nieve one if you don't think the majority of big businesses
    arn't greedy and getting more so at a fast pace. Do you remember the old
    expression 'Supply & Demand'? It used to mean that if a product became
    popular, the manufacturer would lower his prices because he was selling so
    much of the product and making a nice profit. Now it means that if it's
    popular, the prices are inflated to make wind fall profits. Most big
    businesses hire people to find out how to squeeze a buck to the last drop.
    Come on Nick - where have you been? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53478
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mike Carter
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 06:44:29

    You really are showing your love for mankind arn't you fellow? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53479
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Solar Conspiracy
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 10:12:06

    I gave away my TV, but the only things I've seen on Channel 8 recently
    concerning solar energy are *This Old House* shows encouraging the use of
    passive solar heating and solar water heating.  I think I also saw something
    about GM's Sunraycer, come to think of it.  Who said it would cost $15,000
    to generate 60 watts?

    Message: 53480
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Who said...(last)
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 10:33:58

            Why it was APS.....  They were discussing "Quality Power" and " Poor
    Quality Power".  They gave a rundown on Solar Power saying why it would
    never work for the homeowner.   It was ALL negative on Solar Power. Sorry I
    did not tape the segment or I would be happy to show it to you. Brother Bob
    (who works with Photovoltaics and Solar Hot water Heaters) was really
    laughing at their so called "FACTS".... He felt they were putting a negative
    feeling on Solar Power to benifit their decision on Nuclear Power......
    Obviously Jim Lippard bought it hook line and sinker along with many other
    Arizona citizens as being SAFE and CHEAP.
            It was a sell Job...... and they sold it!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53481
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Commercial
    Subject: Software (cheaper)
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 10:46:30

            MOST of my IBM and Atari ST software is at or below cost.
    We still have many good titles in stock....  Now for you users, we will give
    an ADDITIONAL 20 percent OFF the price of any software in stock.
    You read that correctly...  an ADDITIONAL 20 % off ANY software just for my
    BBS user friends....  We are on our LAST month and I am giving you guys
    first shot at some possable really good buys.

    Just bring in a copy of this post so that I know you are a BBS user...

    (Users: Please upload this post to other BBS's)  Yes, you too LLoyd!

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     1:        It amazes me when I see an advertisement that says, "We Care About
     2:You."  I wish they would complete their sentences and use the truth, "We
     3:Care About You're Money."
     4:        However in the small business world the former phrase is often true
     5:but big business/government is doing their best to eliminate small business.
     6:                                Rod
     7:end

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    Message: 53483
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 53466/Cliff
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 11:41:20

    No, I never said anything about deaths while under the influence of
    alcohol.  The only alcohol deaths I referred to (if I referred to any at
    all, I don't recall) were those directly attributable to the alcohol (e.g.
    alcohol poisoning).  I would agree that a comparison of deaths caused by
    alcohol influence while not considering deaths caused by the influence of
    marijuana would be unfair.

    The death stats I gave from the DAWN data, on the other hand, did include
    deaths while under the influence (including suicides and accidental deaths).
     The DAWN stats do not record alcohol alone, but they do record when
    alcohol is found in the body along with some other drug.  And what is the
    most commonly found drug?  "Alcohol in combination."

    Message: 53484
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gary J.
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 12:13:43

            What you said last makes some sence ......
    How about, though, allowing the individual States to decide on the
    decriminalization of 'illegal' drugs.
    We should give our over burdened government a break. It has so-o many issues
    now to help us with. The government's concern for us as a society is a nice
    thought, but I think that the states should start shouldering some of these
    responsibilities.
    Let's give our ever growing government a rest.......

    p.s. a really innovative idea would be to bring back individual
    responsibility ......... What a wild idea!

    Message: 53485
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 53483/Jim
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 13:11:28

            Let me get this clear, you are standing your ground that there
    are no/have never been "Deaths from smoking".

    Do you feel:
            Smoking is GOOD for you...
            Smoking is SAFE....
            Smoking may cause you health problems
            Smoking is deadly!

    Now, I did not specify regular tobacco, Banana skins or that other popular
    weed.....

    Booze consumed to excess is deadly.... I agree, but one drink a week is also
    proving to be GOOD for you.   Is one puff a-week good for you?  I think not!

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    Message: 53486
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Sandy/Responsibility
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 13:27:36

            People taking care of themselves!!!!  Never happen, it's easier to
    pay someone else to do that, namely our government.  I mean we the sheep
    errrr, Whoops, I mean "people" are too dumb to know what is good for us. I
    need the Government to tell me to wear my 'Seat Belt', I need them to tell
    me to clean my "Yard"... and to put "Caps" on medicine bottles I can't open
    when I am sick.
            All this....because I can't be RESPONSIBLE for my actions!

            Where is Big Brother Now... I need help with this post.....

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    Message: 53487
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 53485
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 14:43:03

    No, I have never said that or implied that.  My claim has been that d9THC
    doesn't kill people.  Regarding smoking (any substance), it clearly causes
    health problems.  Note, however, that marijuana can be ingested by means
    other than smoking.
       Smoking marijuana in some cases *is* good for you (e.g., if you are a
    suffere of a particular type of glaucoma).  If, as I suspect, the healthful
    effects of moderate alcohol use are in its reduction of stress, a joint a
    week would have a similar effect (but of course we won't see any research on
    that subject as long as marijuana is on Schedule I).

    Message: 53488
    Author: $ Steven Carls
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Pot/Drugs
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 17:07:40

    I lost a friend who killed himself while on pot.  He blew his brains out
    with a gun in front of his mother and younger brother.
    However, I think drugs could be legalized, but I do not think our Government
    could handle something like that, at least not now, EH???
     " The ATARI WILDCAT "  Steven Carls

    Message: 53489
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: drugs
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 17:39:17

    To those in favor of changing the current drug laws:

    Which drugs should be legal?
    What would be the requirements for their purchase?
    Under what circumstances would they be illegal (i.e. at work, while driving,
    while using other drugs...)

    Message: 53490
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 18:05:15

    Ideally, all should be legal.  Realistically, marijuana and the
    hallucinogens should have the same status as alcohol and tobacco.  Heroin
    should be available to terminal patients and for addict maintenance
    programs.  None should be illegal under any particular circumstances, but
    companies should be permitted to fire anyone who comes to work impaired.
    Companies employing people in high-risk positions should be permitted to
    demand that their employees stay clean (e.g., airlines, bus drivers, etc.)
    The penalties for engaging in actions which endanger the lives of other
    people should be harsh.

    Message: 53491
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: What a party
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 18:21:12

    The highlight of the Republican National Convention should be Lisa Henshaw's
    speech.

    Message: 53492
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Holland/religiosity
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 20:36:06

    A while back Rod asked if anybody knew how religious people in Holland were.
    Here are some of the results from a 1981 international Gallup survey:

    Do you attend regular religious services once a week or more?
        United States         43%
        Netherlands           27%
        (Highest was Republic of Ireland with 82%; lowest was Denmark with 3%)

    Do you do unpaid voluntary work for churches or religious organizations?
        United States         23%
        Netherlands            9%
        (Highest was U.S.; lowest was Denmark with 2%)

    Do you believe in God?
        United States         95%
        Netherlands           65%
        (Highest was U.S.; lowest was Sweden with 52%)

    All of Western Europe scored lower than the U.S. on all three questions
    except for the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland which scored higher
    on the first question.

    Message: 53493
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Netherlands
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 20:42:00

    More recent info on Holland may be found in the article "Unbelief in the
    Netherlands" in the Winter 1986/87 issue of Free Inquiry magazine.
    According to this article, 81% of Dutch citizens believe that the only being
    answerable for his life is man himself.  55% disagree with the statement
    that people who believe in God always lead a richer spiritual life than
    unbelievers.  53% believe that life *before* death is the only thing that
    counts.  38% do not believe in God [if this statistic is correct, the
    percentage of atheists in Holland increased 3% between 1981 and 1986].
    The percentage of Dutch who consider themselves humanists has gone from 7%
    in 1966 to 14% in 1978 to 23% in 1985.  (Other views in 1985 were 29% Roman
    Catholic and 24% Protestant.  As 1/3 of the Protestants are Calvinists,
    breaking those down leaves humanism the second most popular viewpoint.)

    Message: 53494
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Discussion:
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 22:32:53

    Concerning the legalization of drugs:

    My opinion is that a tax stamp on MJ and legal status for the US
    tobacco companies to produce and sell it through their regular
    retail channels would soon cause the price of a pack of "tokes"
    down to where it wouldn't be profitable to import/"smuggle" it
    into the country.

    Big business, contrary to opinions here displayed, has more often
    brought the price down in efforts to create profits by volume
    dealing.  Only when government attempts to interfere with
    retailing does a product's price rise artificially.

    Again, medical prescribing of addictive drugs, and their legal
    production by the big international drug combines, would soon
    remove the illicit profit from smuggled goods, and drive the
    price down to where an addict could afford his/her habit without
    having to resort to crime/prostitution to support it.
    Example:  an ounce of pure cocaine costs less than a buck in
    Columbia.  By the time it hits the streets, cut by 100, at $10-
    $15 per hit, you're looking at $1500 for the same ounce.  A big
    commercial firm could put the same ounce out, in better purity,
    for $5.00 per hit, thus charging an exorbitant markup, but
    undercutting your corner pusher.

    Then a few months later, Fleer's or General Foods would introduce
    a competitive product and start driving the legal price down
    until everyone could afford to get stoned.  Even if Uncle Sugar
    put his 1000% bite on it, 1 ounce, cut only 10 ways, and taxed at
    1000 percent with a 100% markup would cost only $2.00

    I have confidence in big business, because I've been on both the
    giving and receiving end of the profit margin.  Truly, if there's
    any money in it, you can't keep a monopoly on a product.
    Competition rears its ugly head, and a competitor will soon begin
    making it cheaper than you can afford to.
    The economies of scale (put out the product in enough quantity
    and you can make a fortune at almost any price over cost) ensure
    that any profitable product, be it granola bars or wine coolers,
    will soon be entirely in the hands of the big bucks boys.  Just
    keep ol' Uncle Sugar out of it, and you can keep supplying
    anything as long as the suckers will buy it.

    Message: 53497
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Discussion:
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 22:35:09

    About the Solar Business:

    A good friend is in sales with a commercial Solar hot water
    manufacturer in Tempe.  For several years the sales of solar hot
    water products was booming, because the government would give you
    up to 60% of the purchase price back.

    A couple of years ago, the tax credits were discontinued, mainly
    because the credits hadn't encouraged any new research or new
    products, and the bottom dropped out of the market.  It cost the
    Tempe company about $800 to manufacture a solar system, and this
    didn't include tooling costs, engineering, warranty or sales
    commission.  It was just labor and raw materials.  They had to
    price the units at $2000 to break even, and $3000 was the going
    rate while the tax credits were in effect.  You got half back, in
    effect paying $1500 for a system that should have retailed for
    about $2400.

    Now drop the tax credits.  The price shoots up from $1500 to
    $2500.  People quit buying.  Now you have to cost in unused
    manufacturing capability, as well as a profit.  The price climbs,
    and more customers drop out of the market.  Anyone want to buy a
    solar hot water heater?

    About photovoltaic cells:

    Ask an electrical engineer about building a photovoltaic panel
    large enough to run a home refrigeration unit.  You're looking at
    several thousand dollars.  Install the panels your self.  Don't
    use anyone else's expertise, engineering knowledge, or
    assistance.  You will save another thousand or so in
    installation.  Now you've got a 115 volt home system that will
    put out about 300KW per hour.  You want to turn on a lamp?  Run
    the TV?  Dry your clothes?  Run the Microwave?  You'll be  lucky
    if you can put a photovoltaic unit on your house that will run
    all the appliances you're used to for $20,000.

    Don't know where the hi-ball figure for the low power figure came
    from on TV, but I'll bet they dropped a couple of decimal points
    somewhere.  Wasn't our friend Diane Ryan reporting, was it?  She
    can screw up a technical discussion about a boyscout lighting a
    fire with a match.

                Yours in eternal, everlovin', blue-eyed darkness!

                                            Gary Jones

    Message: 53500
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/Smoking
    Date: 08/05/88  Time: 00:27:55

            The Universe smokes.  Ever see a galaxy, notice how smokey and dusty
    it is?

    Message: 53501
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/53486/help\
    Date: 08/05/88  Time: 00:28:54

    Cute, very cute!

    Message: 53502
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Steven
    Date: 08/05/88  Time: 00:31:46

            If the government in Holland can (and does) handle drugs being legal
    then what in the world makes you think we can't.  Yes, I admit, we seem to
    be behind them in intelligence, but gee, we are capable of learning, yes?
                                    Rod

    Message: 53503
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Zak/legality
    Date: 08/05/88  Time: 00:38:56

            It would be redundant if I answered your questions on drugs.
    I think the question has been sufficiently answered.
                                    Rod

    Message: 53504
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gary/solar
    Date: 08/05/88  Time: 00:49:15

            To have a solar electrical system run the lighting and the low power
    draw items such as state of the art stereos, vcrs, computers and such would
    be of great benefit.  To design a home from the ground up using intelligence
    would also cut out the need for the big power drawers such as air
    conditioning and heating.  The only item I haven't figured out a way to get
    around would be a washing machine motor but an environmental dwelling would
    not be that hard to do.
            With well designed houses, we could easily eliminate many coal fired
    plants and need fewer nuclear generating stations.  This has to be the
    future if we are to have one.  Of course every home could have a wind-mill
    or two for those stormy days.
            Cliff has a solar system that runs some of his lighting and I think
    that is great.  I saw a show on PBS a while back and on it was a man who had
    figured a way to grow silicon onto sheets of aluminun foil thus making
    inexpensive solar panels although it was mentioned that the poor third world
    countries would get first crack at it.  I really do not understand, if this
    is so would our local utility companies want us to use this alternate
    technology or would the stock holders lose paper dollars?
                                   See you around the universe,
                                    Rod
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    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 21:33:53

    Ann gives me tokens for free.

    Message: 61
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: tokens
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 02:23:36

    The Phoenix Cardinal's assistant coach that was arrested on Van Buren had
    one token from "Fanny's" in his pocket.

    Message: 62
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Nick the Geek!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 07:10:38

    Does the Phoenix Cardinal's assistant coach have cute buns? =*--ANNIE the
    ASSp--*=

    Message: 63
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Speaking off ...
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 07:25:51

    I just gotta tell you this story that really happened on Van Buren. This was
    about six years ago when we first came to Phoenix from a small town. We
    decided to go in one of those adult book stores and see for ourselves what
    they sold in those places. From the moment I entered, I had to fight back my
    laughter because as soon as you walk in, there was an entire wall that had
    'electrical devices' of all sorts - from huge plastic penises to electric
    fingers! I had an over powering urge to say (loud) 'Oh daddy. Please get me
    that big black penis up there"! But I didn't because there was so many
    people in there and the guy at the desk was really looking us over. Anyway -
    I couldn't stand it for very long - just knew I was going to laugh, so I
    told my husband to buy a book and I'd wait outside. (we had hardly seen such
    books, being so cloistered in a small Mormon town) I went outside and stood
    under a street light on Van Buren! That was dumb! A guy came out of the
    place, looked me over and said "Do you?" I simply said "NO" - surpressing a
    giggle. I stood there a few more minutes and another guy came out - a real
    young good looking one and he walks up to me and says "I saw the two of you
    in there. Do you 'three way'?" With a very stright face I said "NO, we only
    two way"! I never was so glad to see my husband come out of that sleeze
    place and we never went back to one of them. The moral to this story -
    'Never stand under a street light on Van Buren'! - swinging your purse and
    chewing gum! =*--ANNIE the ASSp--*=

    Message: 64
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: A GT?
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 07:28:24

    We ought to have an 'Adult Book store' GT! We could all pitch in $5 a piece
    and the one that can supress his laughter wins it all! We could also have a
    special prize to the one who makes the best shocking comment!

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    Subject:Job Offer

    Enter a line containing only an <*> to stop
     1:        WANTED:  Night man to clean movie booths in large adult book store.
     2:Non-slip boots required.  555-6666 24hr.
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    Message: 66
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 20:55:19

    I hear Cliff is going to be looking for a job.

    Message: 67
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Nick the Geek!
    Subject: *Fanny's*
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 20:56:19

    Fanny's, eh?  Are you sure your sources are correct
    WAY Below Normal Bulletin Board command:JVOI

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    Message: 1486
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: story
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 07:07:49

    .... what looked like a horrible beast! "Look!" Cried Nick, "It's a genuine
    C.H.U.D.!"
    "Oh stop it Nick" said Dean. "It's only a small alligator someone flushed
    down the toilet. You'll scare the girls"!
    Nick grumbled, but continued on. The going got tough as the gunk got deeper
    in the sewer. Toilet paper wrapped around the little group's ankles making
    it even harder to walk. The odor was over powering.
    The darkness closed in around them and Dean said "Lets hold hands so none of
    us get lost. It's going to get very dark soon before this journey is
    through".
    Ann let out a small screem that rattled off the slimey walls.
    "What is the matter Ann"? asked Sandy.
    "That was no hand I was holding"!
    "Never mind the sex stuff Ann. We must continue as fast as we can" said Dean
    After what seemed hours, the group finally saw a small light at the end of
    the tunnel and their pace quickened. They finally came to the end.
    "Oh no!" cried Nick. "It can't be!"
    "But it is"! said James.
    "Where are we"? questioned Cliff.
    "Don't you know this place darling"? said Sandy. "It is .......

    Message: 1487
    Author: $ Steven Carls
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last/Story
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 16:56:18

    It's  the PHANTOM ZONE yelped Cliff.

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    Message: 1525
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Jim/Black's
    Date: 08/04/88  Time: 03:20:46

    It's not the forty mile walk down the damn mountain.  It's the forty mile
    walk UP the damn mountain after you're already tired and sunburned that
    keeps people away.
    But it's worth it, I think.