### Apollo BBS Archive - May 5, 1998

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    Message: 3442
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 05/04/88  Time: 21:16:31

    Governments are made up of people who got there.
    People are like you and me.
    The state of a government reflects the state of the people.
    Like someone once said;
    "You can go in dirty and you can go in clean, but you can never come out
    clean.."
    I challenge anyone running for office not to change their views, opinions
    and overall morals one iota while in office.
    Power corrupts. Wether it be power of money or power over people,
    it still corrupts and will always corrupt.
    That is why it is my opinion you'll never have a clean Government and
    will never find one.

    Message: 3443
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 05/04/88  Time: 21:39:06

    It wasn't even that.

    Message: 3444
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Mike on the gov.
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 10:45:20

    I agree. That's why I've always said that the government isn't for the
    people at all. Power turns the best people into Dragons. See you =*--ANN--*=

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     1:        Gee, thanks!

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    Message: 1282
    Author: $ Gary McSpadden
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: POINTS?
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 21:33:55

    Here it is May 5th, the last entry was April 28, so I guess everyone
    made their points, whatever they were and decided to be quiet.
    It is interesting to return to read, and find the many points to be
    made.
    ---->  :  <---- double points

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    Message: 52045
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: War!
    Subject: Where's Lyekis now?
    Date: 05/04/88  Time: 21:10:44

    Today, the customary entrance and warm up of the engine at quitting time
    was again disappointing. No Tom Lyekis .
    Or is that leykis?
    Anyway, unless he took the day off, I smell a rat. After that heated
    argument the day before with Jamie McFarron I suspect that the General
    manager had him yanked again.
    What a fiasco.
    Does anyone have good information on this? Will he be back or did they
    yank him again and will we be stuck with that ice-chest voiced
    Pommie for another month?
    Anyone?
            -Mike

    Message: 52046
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Petrisko/sign
    Date: 05/04/88  Time: 22:34:28

    He looks more like a black light than neon.

    Rev. Beau

    Message: 52047
    Author: Mike Stackpole
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Anne/D&D/Royalties
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 04:59:30

    Nope, never played D&D -- it was always the enemy.  It's kind of funny now
    because in a month or so, I'll be doing a scenario for TSR designed for
    AD&D.  At some point I probably should play the game.
      As for royalties on Best Sellers, I'd love to collect them too, but that's
    up to the rest of humanity.  Now if everyone on this board would buy 11
    copies of my book when it hits the stands...
    Mike

    Message: 52048
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: War!
    Subject: kfyi
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 05:09:58

    Mabe if someone was good enough to post a list of all the sponsors of KFYI,
    those of us who don't care to wuldn't have to listen to it, just call the
    sponsors and tell them that we wouldn't listen to a station that endorsed
    the overthrow of anyone's constitutional rights.

    Message: 52049
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: War!
    Subject: KFYI
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 08:04:19

       Tom had said ahead of time that he wouldn't be in yesterday, since he'd
    be in court.  I keep hearing about the spat he had with Jamie McFarren.
    What happened?

       Paul:  What you suggest was what got the Friends of Tom Leykis in trouble
    in the first place.  People are hesitent to do it again, fearing they'll be
    socked with leagal bills, too.  That, sadly, was most likely Weber's
    intention.  But anyway, to find out the sponsors, just set your radio to 910
    AM and write down the names, then look them up in the phone book.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 52050
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Reality Club
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 17:34:26

      SL: When did you come up with the idea of meetings?
      JB: In the mid-'60s, Dick Higgins of the Something Else
    Press invited me to a series of weekly meetings with the
    composer John Cage.  Cage was interested in meeting young
    people in New York.  The evenings had no particular agenda,
    it was simply Cage leading a discussion.  Everyone in the
    room was erudite, filled with intellectual hungar,
    intellectual desire.  Most of them went on to brilliant
    careers.
      The sessions were held at Higgins' town house in the
    Chelsea area of New York.  Cage would throw out some ideas
    and the talk would go around the room.  Cage had an idea,
    which is mentioned in one of his books, that there's *one
    mind* - the one we all share.  An idea could bounce back and
    forth across the room without ownership and yet have a life
    of its own and an evolution in and of itself.
      Soon after, I began assembling my own evenings of avant
    garde artists, writers, sculptors, and poets to meet in an
    unscheduled, haphazard way at my apartment.  No agenda,
    except to be in the presence of each other's intelligence.
      Simultaneously, I was grappling with certain issues and
    ideas which were changing my own way of thinking.  I was
    turned on to J. Z. Young by McLuhan.  Young's idea was that
    man creates tools and then molds himself in their image.  To
    me, this indicated that reality is manmade.  The universe is
    an invention, a metaphor.

    Message: 52052
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: War!
    Subject: Society Amok!!
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 19:51:55

    The Gestapo is alive and well in Phoenix! Common sense prevails!
    I will admit that I am not in a very sane state of mind at this time because
    of an event that just happened. I have no where to vent my anger but here. I
    threw a few things around the house - kicked a few wall and swore a lot, but
    of course, it did no good. If I was a strong man, I'd of probably put my
    fist through a wall. Again, it would have done no good, but would have felt
    very good! Here's the story --- My daughter lives with us and her three kids
    - and their small dog. This afternoon, a little girl from up the street came
    to visit one of the kids. When she came to the door, the dog either bit or
    jumped up on her leg with his claws and produced a small scratch. She told
    her father and he came over. We produced proof of rabies vacination in case
    it was a bite. (which wasn't proven) But this father wouldn't take our word
    and called the animal control. To make a long story short - they took the
    dog for a 7 day quarentine in the pound. Why? Because his licence had
    expired two weeks ago! It will cost my daughter $35 to get him out in 7
    days! Not to mention the heartache of the kids having their dog taken away.
    If his lic. had been current, they wouldn't have taken him. So, this tells
    me, 'to hell with the rabies - it's only the money they want'! What is worng
    with this father that he can't use some common sense? He could not only see
    the dog was a 'house dog' and not vicious. It wasn't even proved it was a
    bite and didn't look like one. If it had happened to one of my kids, I'd go
    back and check it in 7 days to see if it was ill of something and if not,
    forget it! Secondly, why can't the dog be kept at home for those 7 days and
    then checked by a vet?
    At least the guy that came and took him was nice and seemed to hate having
    to do it. He even called in and told them he had a rabies shot less than a
    year ago - but no good! HE also told us that if we hadn't of reported the
    incident ourselves - we could have been fined up to $700! This is all so
    idiotic it's unbelievable. Rabies is not prevelent in Phoenix. A person that
    hurts another while driving does not have their car taken away without a
    fair trial. A guy can totally beat up his wife and be out of jail in a few
    hours on bail at least. But not a little dog. If it had happen to my
    Pekinese - I would no doubt be in jail right now because I would not let
    them take him! Period - no other choice!!! He does not and never has had a
    rabies shot! Why? Because he is a very allergic type dog and I have had two
    vets tell me it wouldn't be wise to give him one. Him and my daughter's dog
    are 'silk pillow' dogs that don't set foot in the front yard without a
    leash. I won't even let them go from house to car without one.
    We also found out that if we took the dog away - not only would we be fined
    but the little girl would have to take the shots in the stomach - according
    to the law!! They sure have us by 'the Acorns' don't they? Writing this out
    has slacked my anger a bit, but not much. Sorry - I am truly raving at this
    unecessary heart ache. I fell so trapped in this world and there is no where
    to run away from it!! A lot of you won't agree with me, but thanks for
    listening anyway. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52054
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: KFYI sponsors
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 20:34:41

    The following is from a pamphlet produced by Friends of Tom Leykis.  Note
    that this information is a matter of public record (it is exhibit "A" in
    KFYI's application for a TRO)

    SAVE TOM LEYKIS!!! PULL THE PLUG ON KFYI!!!

    Avoid patronizing all KFYI sponsors.  Call as many advertisers as posible
    and state that you refuse to trade with them until Tom Leykis is returned to
    his position as Program Director of KFYI.

    Tell KFYI General Manager Fred Weber what YOU think!!  Call KFYI at 258-6161
    or 258-5394 and let your opinion be known!!

    This is a partial listing only:

    The Arizona Bank, Main Office: 431-3100
    Arizona Beef Council: 273-7163  American Continental Corp.: 957-7170
    Astroguard Systems:   266-0443  Buzz Jensen's Sound Advice: 955-8800
    Bill Luke Chrysler-Plymouth: 249-1234  Childress Buick:     249-1133
    Compies:              971-8010  Courier Transport:          267-8910
    Dave Richards Co.:    994-4755  Desert Schools Credit Union: 244-3400
    Diamond Cabinets:     257-0553  Direct Carpet Outlet: 269-3261, 890-1152
    Dollar Resale:        267-1184  Franklin Waterbeds: 247-4424, 941-3947
    Five Star Ford: 946-3900  Gelato Oggi: 977-3963,978-0033,938-3193,584-6780

    Message: 52055
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: KFYI sponsors
    Date: 05/05/88  Time: 20:44:54

    Home Depot: 841-2800, 867-0040, 833-0654, 224-0034
    I/O Pure Products:    484-7071  J. Muncy & Co.: 844-0217, 957-1338
    Kevin Schwartz, Atty.:266-3900  La Perla Restaurant:    939-7561
    Knight Protective Industries: 241-0800, 438-8083
    Lunt Avenue Marble Club: 265-4157, 265-8997, 863-9791, 863-9792, 899-6735
                             998-3505, 998-3506
    Larry Miller Toyota:  272-3251  Mi Ranchito Products: 272-3949, 278-2284
    New Home Concepts:    996-1653, 833-4321
    Pizza Express:        947-8059, 948-7796, 991-1998
    Pier De Orleans:      844-0666, 246-8900
    Phoenix Camera Repair:277-1811  Safelite Auto Glass:    437-0922
    Sofware:    954-7638, 840-2088  Sanderson Ford Truck Center: 842-8787
    Talking Phone Book:   277-1199  Tandoori Kabobs:820-8852, 266-5500, 894-9694
    33 West Missouri:     264-5663  Tom Jones Ford: 257-8483
    Trans Fix:   955-0913,435-1603  VSM:            997-7305
    Weight Exchange:      921-1655

    DISCLAIMER:  The above information is taken from Maricopa County Superior
    Court documents and is a matter of public record.  It is provided here
    strictly for educational purposes, and I take no responsibility for any
    other use of the information.

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    Subject:Ann/trapped

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     1:        We are all trapped in our bodies for a short while, try to change as
     2:much as you can before you lose it.  Flesh sucks!
     3:                                Rod

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    Message: 1327
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Question?
    Subject: umm
    Date: 05/04/88  Time: 21:18:00

    What is this meaningless foray of messages anyway?

    Message: 1328
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: ummm...
    Date: 05/04/88  Time: 22:35:23

    ... more entertaining than anything you've said lately?

    Rev. Beau

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