### Apollo BBS Archive - September 1, 1989

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     1:Where in the hell is James Hawley?  When he phoned, with airport noises in
     2:the background, he said that he wasn't telling where he was going?
     3:
     4:I even forget how long he has been gone.  Has it been 2,3,weeks?
     5:
     6:Do you know his moms number.  I think I will try to find her number and give
     7:her a call.
     8:
     9:Rod
    10:end

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    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 20:43:16

    I do not know his Mom's number...but it has been too many weeks and I am
    starting to worry.  PLEASE let me know if you find out anything at all...
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:I found his mom's number and she said that brother Andy received a call from
     2:him last week.  He said that James was in Seattle doing some lock work with
     3:a guy that I trained several years ago.  He said that he will stay another
     4:week there.  I then phoned my friend in Seattle and his number has been
     5:disconnected.  I didn't even know that James knew my friend in Seattle.
     6:Hmmmm.   I am not sure what to make of it all but at least James is still
     7:around, somewhere.  -Rod

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    Message: 5848
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Beau on 12
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 07:23:38

    I will attempt to explain why I think it's a good explanation ..... it
    doesn't go along with the Bible re: Adam & Eve and that God created the
    universe in 6 days and that the earth is only 8,000 or so years old. I just
    don't believe that. It says we did inhabit the animals for awhile (cavemen)
    - it explains myths & legends. The beginning of it describes God - which is
    matter, energy as we all are. I always believed that mankind was a part of
    God and 'would' like to think we will go back to Him. Just a personal
    opinion. But most of all - it puts the responsibility on the indivivual -
    not God or Satan. You know - 'The Devil made me do it' junk! Or that God
    made you a cripple to teach you something. We make our own beds and pay the
    conquences. Anyway - in my opinion, this could be an explaination of
    something un-explainable. Ha! Hell, we don't even understand what the
    universe is - what makes the rain, flowers grow, death, birth. Sure, through
    science they tell us what it means - but not really because there is so many
    unanswered questions. To me those 12 posts 'could' be the answer - at least
    some of them. Just something to think about. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 5849
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Taranto
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 07:26:25

    Re: you quote - 'Whopee!" - does that imply you do not understand the posts?
    It's pretty difficult reading. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 5850
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 12:47:05

    My god, the apro poet has been reincarnated as a woman!

    I think Ann likes Cayce's fable because it was all spelled correctly.

                                                       ****  Gary   ****

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    Message: 386
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: The pixs
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 07:28:33

    What's wrong with them? I saw them and they looked OK. The lighting may have
    faded the color a bit but we all looked great! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 387
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: The Pixs
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 13:50:58

            They do look great...  forget what I said earlier.
    If anyone wishes, they may stop by and take a look.....  Copies will soon be
    made.....  let me know?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 388
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Pics
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 14:58:14

    What, no secret GT?
    And I have been practicing the secret sign all day long, geesh!

    Message: 389
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Franklin Mint...
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 21:10:09

    They have just informed me that after the great success of the Pewter
    StarShip Enterprise, they are now going to do such things as the Klingon
    Cruiser, Romulan Bird of Prey and other replicas of elements in the Star
    Trek universe.  They think they may have a new one ready every five months.

            Now let's see, if you guys send me $15.00 every five months for the
    next two years.... I could.....  Naaaaaa, I don't think I would have any
    friends left after one month... ha ha ha ha ha

    Message: 390
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Klingons
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 23:12:09

    What's that joke about the Klingon's going around Uranis?

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    Message: 60643
    Author: Edgar Cayce
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann Oudin/God&Satan
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 00:59:02

    One thing I know which Milton never knew:
    When Satan fell, hurled headlong to the shade
    Of Hell eternal out of Heaven's blue,
    I know the screaming wail his pinions made.

    Actually, God doesn't miss Satan: it's just that Satan always let Him cheat
    at Parcheesi.

    Message: 60644
    Author: Edgar Cayce
    Category: Tales & Tall Stories
    Subject: P.J. O'Rourke
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 01:06:27

    ..."Ahmed, though Moslem, was a great hit with Antoine's family.  He brought
    them up to date on Beirut politics and then told Syrian checkpoint stories.
    Syrian checkpoint stories are the Polish jokes of Lebanon.

    A Syrian soldier stops a Volkswagon Beetle and demands that the driver open
    the trunk.  The driver begins to open the luggage compartment at the front
    of the car.  "No!" says the Syrian, "I said the TRUNK."
    "This is the trunk," says the driver.
    "I am not a donkey," says the Syrian, pointing to the back of the car.
    "Open the trunk!"  So the driver does as he's told, exposing the VW's
    engine.  "Aha!" says the Syrian, "You have stolen a motor.  Furthermore, you
    have just done it because it's still running."   "

    From "Holidays In Hell".  I think, Rod, that you would find the chapter on
    Heritage U.S.A. particularly amusing.

    Message: 60645
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/"heat"
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 06:27:43

     "Chill out", in my admittedly limited understanding of the nomenclature of
    today's generation, means the same as "cool it" or "calm down" meant in the
    ancient days of yore, when I was younger. If it has any other hidden,
    sinister meaning, I am not aware of it, and have probably misused the term.
    If so, I apologize for my lack of understanding. I believe it is called
    ignorance, a maladay that affects all of us in one area or another.
     As to my past comments concerning your voice. Your voice does not offend me
    Cliff. What I find so bothersome is the fact that each and every time we
    have a disagreement over anything at all, you repeatedly throw back at me
    everything I have ever said to you that has a negative connotation, if it
    applies to the discussion at hand or not. We could be in disagreement on
    which side of our toast to butter, and you would throw in my face every
    remark I have ever made concerning my priorities, my feelings concerning
    homosexuals, my past (and since forgotten) remarks concerning your voice,
    GTs that I have not attended, my religious preferences, my comments on
    Scriptural references, and anything else you have been harboring in your
    memory bank for years.
     So, if it pleases you any more, PLEASE!!! cool it, calm down, let not the
    sun go down on your wrath (OOPS!Sorry about that. It came from the Bible!),
    but, if it has a meaning I know not of, Please DON'T chill out! OK?

    Message: 60646
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 06:33:35

     You are essentially correct. Lucifer was once one of God's highest angels,
    (although God doesn't play favorites, since the Bible also says that He is
    not a respecter of persons), but Lucifer did have a high position in the
    heirarchy of angels. His fall was caused by his pride, and his statement
    that he would elevate himself to a position equal with the most high God's.
     As to the last statement, that God misses Satan, I don't know where you
    read that, but I doubt it, since God is quite self-sufficient, and old
    slewfoot has given Him a bit more than a minor amount of trouble over the
    years. I think that God misses him about as much as you or I would miss an
    ingrown toenail.

    Message: 60647
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul/last
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 07:05:13

    You know ... 'once a friend - always a friend!" I'm just kidding. I think I
    got that idea from a book called 'Diologues with the Devil' by Taylor
    Caldwell - fiction of course. But interesting reading. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 60648
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul, remarks
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 14:11:05

            If you are so ashamed of your PAST posts and remarks... Why do you
    say them?  If you make your bed, don't you lay in it?  How long ago was it
    that you heard me speak?  Yet it was only a few weeks ago that you attacked
    me on my voice....  Why can you reference the past, and not I?
            I am not UPSET or MAD, so please quit telling me to "Calm Down".
    I am not harboring (gee, you put yourself on a pedestal) any ill thoughts
    about you in my memory bank.  However, being a user of this system as long
    as I have been, there are things that I am going to remember... you are such
    a character, how can I forget?
            With that out of the way, let me wish you and everyone else a fun
    Labor Day Weekend...   Play safe!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 60649
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Chill out
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 15:01:53

    The best way to chill out is to pack your nose with snow (cocaine).

    Message: 60650
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Edgar/P.J.
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 15:02:13

    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    Message: 60651
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Religion
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 15:03:07

    People have all sorts of belief systems in order to maintain their
    so-called sanity.  Organized religions offer their standard doctrine
    and the majority go with one of them as there is safety in numbers.

    One can always find comfort with the most popular of the belief
    systems.  I would venture to say that the prime reason a person turns
    to one of the popular systems is from fear of the unknown.  Everyone
    wants to know.  Many people are born into a belief system and accept
    it, remaining in it all their lives.  It is what they are taught.

    This is why people who are born in Asia have different belief systems
    than those born in the Americas.  Neither system may be true but that
    is not the point.  The question is:  Will I feel safe with this system?
    Of course the safest system is the one that has the most people you
    know as believers.

    A person who understands that it is impossible to know one way or
    another has my respect.

    This is the prime difference between a thinker and a follower.  The
    person now who professes one of our popular western theories to be
    true is the same person who, if born in an eastern culture, would
    profess that system of beliefs to be the true.

    Message: 60652
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Religion
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 15:03:35

    Fear of the unknown brings people together.  Just be wary of the ones
    who want a second mortgage on your home.  They are far to greedy.
    For safety, stick with the ten-percenters for they will not clean you
    out as fast and in return you can enjoy the community outings and
    occasional bake sales.    -Rod

    Message: 60653
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod on Edgar
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 17:27:49

    Perhaps he doesn't buy $tatus because he's been dead for years?

    Message: 60654
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Doggie, last
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 19:20:37

            Why?  Don't dead people have rights?

    Message: 60655
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: The SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: Dean McCarron 5000
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 20:56:40

            Attention users of Apollo.  Dean has just logged off after his
    4999th log in.  His next log in will be his 5000th.  I would like everyone
    right now to send him one letter congratulating him for his 5000th log in...
    I think it will be funny if he get lots of mail.  Even if you don't know him
    that well, please do it anyway.

    Here is his [W]hite pages info:
    McCarron, Dean               Unlisted
    09/01/89  20:40:01    4999
    TRS-80 MODEL II / MOD 1000

    Do it now.... before he logs in again!
    Just ONE letter...and it does not need to be long.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 60656
    Author: Edgar Cayce
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Me, dead?
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 21:43:08

    Actually, THE Edgar Cayce is dead.  My name, however, is merely a fortuitous
    coincedence (or a whimsical alias, whichever comes first).  I was quite
    serious, however, in the text of my message.
    Without going into detail, let me give you an analogy.  Imagine watching
    television in an area with constant magnetic storms (and consequently poor
    reception).  Visually, the "screen" is usually filled with shadowy,
    indistinguishable forms.  Audially, the "speakers" alternate between static,
    or white-noise, and a horrendous cacophany which, if it could be described
    at all, sounds like a few hundred thousand hawks screaming at you in Farsi.
    If one is patient, there are occasional lulls in the pandemoneum, where
    sometimes the images, or the sound (or rarely, both) become clear and
    intelligible.  By a process which I am not prepared to delineate, it is
    possible to send information and make queries.  I know this, because
    occasionally, there is a demonstratable exchange of information.
    I have not yet experienced any, shall we say, unwholesome attentions.  There
    was, however, a period lasting approximately two weeks, wherein a sort of
    "sneezing" sound followed me around wherever I went.  Well, actually,
    "sneezing" is a kind description.  It was a rather rude sound, and first
    manifested itself in a movie theatre.  I was acutely embarrassed, and tended
    to avoid people until it finally went away.  It seemed to be a more or less
    mechanical phenomenon, rather than what some might describe as a
    "visitation".

    Message: 60657
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Edgar/noise
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 23:14:22

    Lay off the beans.

    Message: 60658
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/5000
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 23:15:56

    I wonder how many times I logged in?  When I got kicked off the system, way
    back when, my 'number of times' went, 'that-a-way'.  -Rod

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     1:Congratulations, Dean.  You now have logged in 5000 times.  You win a
     2:lifetime supply of Wesson Oil (R).  Why not actually leave a message or
     3:something, eh?    Your friend, -Rod

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    Message: 569
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff on God
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 07:32:49

    I never capitalize the word god when I'm talking about god's in general. If
    for instance, I capitalized the word while talking about Zeus - God would
    get me for it! See? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 570
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod & Ann
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 14:17:30

            Good answers... hard for me to argue any points said in both posts.
    I concede.......
            I am pleased to see Rod trying at good grammer.  I'm also trying to
    do better and learn a lot from all you great users!  Sandy has been a good
    influence on me as well....   Love her dearly, Yes I do!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    P.S.  Have a great weekend guys and gals.....

    Message: 571
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Weekend
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 15:06:29

    Yeah, I have three and a half days where I can do anything I want.  But, of
    course that is a joke because when you have small children they tend to
    dictate one's life.  Anyway, enjoy the holiday, which ever one it is.

    Message: 572
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last few
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 17:31:28

    Glad to hear that everybody is paying attention to gremmar.  When will the
    spelling errors count against you?

    Message: 573
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Beau-Dog/GReMMAR?
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 19:14:45

            What is a 'gremmar'?  I think you are grammatically in error.
    Maybe you fancy yourself as a 'grammatist'.... A pretender to a knowledge of
    grammar.   (T. Tooke)
            Or, none of the above.  Maybe you just blew the spelling in your
    humor as a grammaticaster?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 574
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Beau/gremmer
    Date: 09/01/89  Time: 19:22:07

    Aw, shit man......and I thought I was doing good.

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