### Apollo BBS Archive - October 6, 1988

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    Message: 4397
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/My shirt
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 01:27:03

    That is a great idea!!!!  The only problem is I don't know anyone with a
    silkscreen machine......

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    Message: 4398
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: David/Calif.
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 05:55:24

    Yes - I'm sure it's changed since I've been there - can you honestly say for
    the better though? And hey fellow, I had plumbing when I was a kid living in
    downtown L.A. But we didn't have smog! Yes - I know some places are banning
    smoking entirely and when that does happen, I will open up a restaurant or
    bar and allow smoking and will make a fortune! Right now we quit going to
    restaurants in Scottsdale because they have banned it. Damn if their going
    to get my money when they won't let me smoke after a meal!
    But you can have California. It is however the most beautiful state on a
    whole than I've ever seen, but the southern coastal cities are ruined and
    that includes San Diego too! Ta, ta. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4399
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/World
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:13:44

    That headline was probably followed by a story from divorce court, and was
    the woman's opinion of her ex.
    You probably lean heavily on the "news" in the National Enquirer too, huh?

    Message: 4400
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/1967
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:14:28

    Yeah, but you moved!
    Rod is still in San Francisco in 1967!

    Message: 4401
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul Savage
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 07:22:36

    Paul, Don't you that the supermkt rags are the only truth we can read.
    Do you think the truth is in our local paper?
                            Ralph

    Message: 4402
    Author: $ Traci Sibel
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Daryl/Tylenol
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 09:56:16

    That is sick!!

    (sniff, sniffle)

    Message: 4403
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: 1967
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 11:24:48

    I was in Phoenix.

    Message: 4404
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: California
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 13:51:20

    I drank a California Cooler once.  (Didn't like it, though!)

    Message: 4405
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: California
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 21:41:19

            Wonder what happens when you are stopped and make to walk the white
    line during one of the many earthquakes?
            Or are the white lines in California WIDE?

    Message: 4406
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Chris/silkscreen
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 23:06:08

            Peter Petrisko has the necessary equipment.

    Message: 4407
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul/Enquirer
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 23:07:49

            It is the ONLY 'rag' I read.  It has all the latest news and
    includes the stories which are supressed by other papers and news media.  I
    read it from cover to cover.  I don't think they stretch the truth, do you?
                                    Rod

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    Message: 1036
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 00:39:22

    He liked it!  Hey Mikey!

    Message: 1037
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Mike
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 07:25:40

    If you'r posts were as nice as you'r art ,you could be a good little boy.
                                    Ralph

    Message: 1038
    Author: $ Traci Sibel
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Mike
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 09:57:16

    Pretty!!!

    Message: 1039
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Mike/pix
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 13:48:51

    OK!

    Since the weathervane was pointing to the right, does that make your picture
    political art?

    OK, anyway!!!

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    Message: 2079
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: D-dog/Peace
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 01:24:12

    More Bullshit!  *******WE******* CAN THINK! Yes, this is true. Myself, Ann,
    You, Cliff, Sandy, Todd, Paul, Mike, Pat, and just about everyone else that
    uses this board CAN THINK, WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE COME HERE TO
    SOCIALIZE(SP)???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BUT<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    I believe we have PRISONS, INSANE ASYLUMS, JUVENILE DETENTION CENTERS, and
    other places like this, TO PROTECT *US* (Yes, YOU *AND* I) from those who
    can not think, or think for themselves!!!!!!!!!!  It is these people, and
    the ones still on the street THAT I, *MYSELF* am worried about!!!!!!!!!!!

    I *CHOOSE* to *THINK* about how I want to live, there for I *CHOOSE* to be
    protected from these people!!!!!!   YOU can bet YOUR A$$ that I don't want
    to die in a nuclear explosion, or incedent for that matter, BUT AS LONG AS
    THERE IS A **THREAT** the bad guys will always wonder WHO is watching!!!!

    I have spent alot of time thinking about this, and I will stand my ground on
    my thoughts and reasons.....

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    Ann, have you anyhting to add? Anyone else?

    Message: 2080
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Chris/last
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:37:19

    You've said it all. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 2081
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: THANG/condum
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:40:10

    But he does have one on - a big giant green trashbag! I could not find one
    of his size in the local drug store! When I ask the druggest for that
    gigantic size - he looked at me and said "Lady, I sure want to meet you
    husband!" I left in a hurry and improvised with the trashbag. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 2082
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: All of youse
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:40:52

    I think Cliff needs cheering up!

    Message: 2083
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliffy
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:41:10

    Smile! We all love you. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 2084
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: cliff
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 07:32:50

    Even I The Old Fart Ralph loves you. So you can smoke that two.

    Message: 2085
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: 2079/Neal
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 11:18:25

    You didn't answer the question about where in the Soviet Constitution it
    says anything about "they will do their best to own the world at any cost."

    Message: 2086
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 13:54:43

    Cwiff.

    We all wuv you.

    Some of us obviously more than others!

    Message: 2087
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Russia's Const...
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 16:18:16

    I don't know what it says exactley, nor do I have time to look it up...  You
    folks that have such a hard time believing that it is true should take some
    time to go to the local library and look it up yourselves!!!  Even if I
    wrote it chapter and verse on here there are some who would STILL deny
    it!!!!

    Any questions?

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    P.S.  My source is Channel 8.

    Message: 2088
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: USSR
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 17:55:53

    Chris Neal may be an idiot, but what he is saying is essentially true.
    Dunderheads like Ron Harvey must share the blame for most of the atrocities
    that have been committed throughout history.

    Message: 2089
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last/atrocities
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 23:03:10

    Yeah, like wars and genocides.

    Message: 2090
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Chris
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 23:15:18

            Your post is SICK.  Hey, I got it, let's build many more prisons and
    fill 'em up with the people on the street.  Yeah, let's jail them and in
    that way we can ignore the problems which cause rape, robbery, murder and
    generally stressed out people.  Good idea.
            Are you planning to run for public office?
            Just one of the reasons we have big problems is the news that is
    thrown at us each hour of the day concerning war and the military.
            Many of the leaders belong in insane asylums.
            By the way, many of the people who are in institutions are there in
    order to excape a cruel world.  They just can't handle the reality we
    created.  I don't blame them.
                                    Rod

    Message: 2091
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Chris
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 23:17:31

            The odds are that you will die in a nuclear war if changes in our
    basic thought patterns are not forthcoming.  Mankind is a weak, paranoid,
    animal.

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    Message: 1569
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Yawn...
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 23:03:44

    Gee, and I thought I was tired.

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    Message: 54483
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 00:53:52

    Aw Cliff, I'm sorry if I offended you.  C'mon, smile!  Seriously, you're not
    a bad sysop....well, not bad when you're sober, that is.

    By the way, I don't mind being told to put something up my ass and smoke it.
    I used to do that at parties anyway.  But please, please, don't call me
    Zakko.  It sounds like a Marx Brother or something.

    Message: 54484
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: ZAK/54483
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 01:06:08

    There's no substitute for careful analysis.

    Message: 54485
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Your advice
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 01:29:54

    So what you are saying is that you didn't mean it 'THAT' way...
    C'mon, I wasn't born yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Message: 54486
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff the MIghty
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 05:21:32

    Do you realize you cussed on this board (Bastards & Assholes) -- something
    you have forbidden us to do! Ralph used the word fart the other day and I
    told him you didn't like that and would reprimend him if he continued to do
    it on the BB. Did Zak make you THAT mad? (grin) =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54487
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Chris/M advice
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 05:22:07

    Vote Libertarian! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54488
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Robert on Ralph
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 05:23:22

    Ralph is still that warm, gentle human being he always was - he's just
    working on his sense of humor! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54489
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: The debate
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 05:40:38

    I thought Bentson clearly won that debate last night! But then again, he is
    a polished politician with a plastic face that is used to the press, TV and
    making public addresses. His mouth is probably permenently puckered from
    kissing so many babies! Quayle on the other hand is certainly a pleasure to
    look at, (What beautiful teeth!) but he stammered and was hesitant too much.
    Comparing himself to Kennedy was a big joke though. Not even close! He may
    improver however. Bentson will never improve - he already has everything
    down pat like a good politician should. My opinion is I wouldn't want either
    for president, but then again, I don't want Ducaca or Bush! Not that I would
    vote for them - but a Bush/Bentson ticket would be better. I still say this
    is 'slim pickings' - but who ever gets in, I have hope! Why not? IF one of
    the presidential candidates wins - I still hope it's Ducaca - but Bush will
    get it! Me - I'm still voting Libertarian. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54490
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann on Cliff
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:07:38

    Don't you know, Ann, that Cliff is not subject to his own rules?
    Those are just for the rest of us grunts.
    After all, it's his toy. If we don't like it, he can just pick it up and go
    home!
    I'm just glad my grandaughters aren't out here watching this, as the
    sometimes are.
    Good display of vocabulary Clifford! Do ou know any more nice words?

    Message: 54491
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: debate
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 10:29:22

    I'd rather spend the next four years worrying about Bush's health than
    hoping Dukakis dies.

    Message: 54492
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul on Ann on Cliff
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 10:44:55

            Paul, You know you have double standards... When Zak called me an
    ASSHOLE on this BBS last week, you commended him for great wisdom...
    You can find them words in the PHOENIX Repulsive as well.. They are not on
    my list of 8 No-No words.  I do not condone there use either....
            Lighten up Paul, or your face will crack!

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*
    P.S. Oh, Zak called me an "ARROGANT ASS"   My mistake!  Still no big deal.

    Message: 54493
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 11:30:50

    No, a bitch is a female dog.

    Message: 54494
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Apro Poet
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 13:46:50

    My only reason for commenting about your sources was that since most
    of us poor miguided Americans have so little access to the real, un-censored
    news, I was hoping that you could find it in your heart to enter some of the
    uncensored news from the same, obviously unbiased, source which was slanted
    to the right instead of the left.

    I only know what I read, and since I have only the obviously censored
    American media to draw upon, I am dependent on your enlightened and unbiased
    posts to tell me what the rest of the world is saying.

    Message: 54495
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 17:47:18

    What are the "8 no-no words"?

    Message: 54496
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Head
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 17:47:30

    I like that.

    Message: 54497
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: The debate
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 17:48:46

    I'm still worried about those 65 MILLION children living in poverty.

    Message: 54498
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Project Censored
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 18:14:42

    Decline in genetic diversity spells disaster

      Diversity in the gene pool is shrinking at an alarming
    rate and could lead to what the science editor of the
    *Christian Science Monitor* calls "a mass extinction of
    Earth's plant and animal species."  Species extinction of
    both plants and animals has accelerated rapidly in the 20th
    century and now has reached a state of crisis.  From 1600 to
    1900, one species disappeared every four years; but now
    perhaps 1,000 species become extinct each year.  The June
    1987 Worldwatch Institute pamphlet on conserving the diversity
    of life predicts that the extinction rate in 20 years will
    reach more than 100 species per day.
      The loss of life-forms is more than an aesthetic issue.
    The rapid extinction of food crop germplasm represents a
    disaster in the making.  Unless the trend is slowed, we
    could see famine on a global scale.  The International
    Board for Plant Genetic Resources warns that the genetic
    diversity of many of the world's staple food crops such as
    wheat, rice, barley, millet, and sorghum are imperiled.
    Seventy-two percent of the U.S. potato crop is concentrated
    in four genetic strains.  Six varieties account for 71
    percent of the corn crop.  Of the catalogued vegetables
    grown in The U.S. from 1901 to 1902, less than 4 percent
    still existed in 1985.
      Genetic diversity is a prerequisite for agricultural
    success.  Genetic uniformity makes crops vulnerable to
    environmental threats such as pests, blight, and drought.
    The 19th century Irish potato famine was the result of
    genetic uniformity, as was the 1953 and 1954 loss of 75
    percent of the U.S. durum wheat crop and of half the 1970
    corn crop.
      The reduction of diversity has lead to what some
    researchers call the global "seed wars."  As plant species
    disappear around he world, access to and control over the
    preservation of plant genetic resources becomes a matter of
    international concern and conflict.  Most of the world's
    genetic resources are concentrated in the Third World.  To
    prevent crop strains from becoming too inbred, industrial
    nations resort to "germplasm appropriation" - collecting
    plant genetic material from Third World countries.  The fact
    that those countries are not compensated for this
    "collection" further exacerbates tensions between industrial
    and developing nations.
      The Plant Variety Protection Act of 1970, which allowed
    corporations to patent seed varieties, has accelerated the
    extinction rate of food crop germplasm.  Germplasm
    appropriated from the Third World is sold back to developing
    countries in the form of hybridized, patented seed.  Farmers
    in the world's centers of diversity are planting genetically
    uniform crops more and more frequently, thus causing further
    loss of indigenous seed.  The United Nations Food and
    Agriculture Organization estimates that two-thirds of all
    Third World crops will be from uniform strains by the year
    2000.

    Sources: *Utne Reader*, Jan./Feb. 1988, "Conserving the
    Diversity of Life," by Jeremiah Creedon; *Mother Jones*,
    December 1987, "Seeds of Disaster," by Mark Schapiro.

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    Message: 341
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: Cliff/last
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:43:58

    I love it when your drunk! But it's someone else's turn to contribute. I
    don't want to hog it all. What have you done with Sandy? Tied her to the
    bedpost again??? Hahahahahha.

    Message: 342
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Daryl the dick (big)
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 06:48:50

    From that last post of yours, I get the opinion you have completely went off
    your rocker or perhaps you got drunk with Cliffy eh? I will personally
    escort you to the mental hospital on Van Buren and commit you. Also, while
    I'm there, I can pick up a few extra bucks. Been away from the profession
    for a while now and miss it. Ta, ta. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 343
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Van Buren
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 07:37:31

    Gee Annie when we were down that way it cost you money, why do you think a
    few blocks woud make a difference?
                           The Old Fart Ralph

    Message: 344
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Mighty SYSOPs
    Subject: Drunk?
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 10:56:15

            SYSOP's do not get DRUNK!!!!  Just a little Zonked!

    Get that straight...or do you wish to visit the Zone again?

    Message: 345
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Daryl DickHead
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 11:32:00

    Hey, I hear Cliff got drunk.

    Message: 346
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: Story/finally
    Date: 10/06/88  Time: 21:36:47

            Time ticked by slowly as the remaining Apolloites were deciding when
    to hold the EMERGENCY meeting. Where was obvious, but the when kept eluding
    everyone still alive; a long standing tradition among the Apollo BBS $tatus
    Users.
            The news of Digger sped things up a bit though. Now assembled in the
    safe and secure abode of the Mighty SySops the remaining Apolloites, with
    the exception of Ann, she disappeared again, started discussing WHO the
    twisted mind was behind all these brutal slayings.
            Sandy, the quick witted of the SySops, offers everyone present a
    Rum and Coke knowing that calm minds think better. Zak, of course, takes
    two. Rod asks for a straw. Dean and Alan shyly take one placing the drink
    between their legs in hopes the others present will not notice. Daryl takes
    three not wanting to be out done by Zak.
            With nerves calmed the meeting begins. But before Sandy could
    announce who she thought the mentally disturbed maniac was a loud bang was
    heard outside rattling the gate. No sooner than the sound ceased a figure
    could be seen smashing its way through the iron gates. All present stood up
    in horror. Were they all to perish? Is this the end of the Apolloites?
    Where is there Savior? Who can save them from this hour of death? Will the
    members present be able to make a decision soon enough to save themselves?
            As the SySop's solid oak door was torn into splinters .........
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     1:        Petrisko dropped over last evening and gave me a copy of the letters
     2:between you and the congressman.  Bravo!  I am happy there is such a person
     3:as you on this planet.  I really mean that even though being here could be
     4:viewed as a sentence of sorts.
     5:        I think I will write a letter to Mr. Kyl.
     6:        Keep up the good work and perhaps you will get to go to heaven.
     7:                                Love
     8:                                Rod
     9:P.S.  Say hi to Zakko.  I think he may have learned what power his pen has
    10:from his summation of some of the BBS writers.  Ouch!

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