### Apollo BBS Archive - October 21, 1988

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    Message: 54805
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 02:50:44

    If you're interested in more information on humane farming, contact the
    Humane Farming Association. The are based in San Francisco, and are running
    a full-page ad in this month's OMNI magazine.

    Message: 54806
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carter
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 02:57:42

    I just can't agree with the idea that all sexual preference is learned.
    There is sound scientific research showing that many behavioral tendencies
    are genetically influenced. I am not suggesting that this sort of
    orientation is normal, but that it is likely that a certain percentage of
    gays are the result of a mutation or damage to their DNA.

    Message: 54807
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ralph
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 04:39:23

    I have known several homosexuals who have repented of their lifestyle, and
    who have changed and gone on to live happy and successful heterosexual
    lives, even to the point of getting married and having children.
    The high suicide rate among homosexuals more indicative of the big lie that
    is being perpetuated by referring to queers as "gay", which is probably the
    most abused and misused word in the English language when placed in that
    context.
    There is nothing gay about being queer.

    Message: 54808
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Peter P./magazine
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 07:27:57

    I'll have to ask the guy where he got it. (he is our spokesperson) I don't
    know if it's sold on the stands - probably through subscriptions. It
    certainly can't have too big of a circulation because cockfighting is legal
    in only 4 states! Some states are 'iffy' re: their laws and turn their backs
    on such things
    I forgot to mention one thing I heard at the meeting - they use cats a lot
    for testing new products like cosmetics and soaps. The standard procedure is
    to put some sort of special tape on a cat's side - about 2" wide and 4" long
    - pull it off to expose the second layer or skin so they can apply these new
    products there. (No pain killers when this is done - it cost money!) Now I
    ask why, if they are going to use cats, they can't just shave the skin and
    apply the product to the first layer of skin? They do this procedure to find
    out the sensitivity to skin. How can that tell them a thing when human skin
    is entirely different? A cat's skin is also totally different from a dogs
    too. =+=ANN=+=

    Message: 54809
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Mark
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 07:31:22

    Was that your letter I saw this morning in the Republic in the letter to the
    editor section Re: animal experimentation? It was signed Mark Adkins? If so,
    it was excellent. Soon, I plan to send a letter in on cockfighting and start
    to make the people aware that it's going on legally. =+=ANN=+=

    Message: 54810
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last post
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 07:34:17

    Hey - I forgot Mark isn't on Apollo anymore!

    Message: 54811
    Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Homosexuality
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 08:08:46

    It would appear (over the long run) that homosexuality would be an
    acquired trait rather than an inherited trait.  After all, just how
    many genes would a practicing homosexual contribute to the human
    gene pool?

    In California you hear very little from the homosexual rights groups
    concerning this argument.  Most that I have a speaking acquaintance
    with think of it as sexual choice.  They feel that they received
    "sexual orientation" or "polarization" at an early age.  Usually as
    a result of broken homes, bad family experiences, and lack of role
    models as children.

    My opinion:  I feel that it's choice, not heredity.  I also refuse to
    justify what I see as a perversion of their basic humanity by calling
    queers gay.  tHAT word has now been ruined, just like the word fairy.

    See Y'aa..........
    Jeannie

    Message: 54812
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Commercial
    Subject: Surge Protector
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 11:01:08

            A good top of the line NETWORK "The Wire Tree PLUS" filtered power
    source, surge protector plus modem protection.

    Six outlets, one continuously on-line outlet.
    Two illuminated On-Off switches
    Five year Warranty
    Solid State, Fast acting surge suppression and interference filter.
    Surge protection for phone/modem

    List is $99.00  I have a special on ONE unit left...$64.00 (this is a brand
    new unit in the box)

    Leave me mail in the ost Office or give me a call....
    I can deliver and set up if needed.

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*
    Gemini Computer & Machine (-:}

    Message: 54813
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: The SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: Phone Fund (BBS)
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 11:03:32

            Is almost empty... how about getting us some NEW members guys...
    Give Apollo a PLUG when you visit other systems....  HELP!

            Hi JT!?  Hmmmmmm

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 54814
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff/Eagles/Abortio
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 13:28:56

    Eagles are endangered, humans are not.

    Message: 54815
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Phone Fund (BBS)
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 15:12:23

    Cliff, I just gave you $10!  Did you spend it already??

    Message: 54816
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last...
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 16:54:11

    Bob, heck no, it is in the fund...and THANKS!!!!  It helps alot!

    BBS new members are down since I left the store... I feel people are afraid
    to mail it to me...but it works, and I install the $TATUS as soon as I get
    it in the mail...  No hanky panky here guys.

    The best things you guys and gals can do is get some of your friends from
    other systems to join Apollo...  We ain't all that bad you know, and I have
    a good history of on line time surpassed by no one in this state.

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 54817
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Homosexuality
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 17:06:30

    Whether or not there is a genetic predisposition to be attracted to the
    wrong sex, whether to engage in homosexual sex is a matter of choice.
    It can perhaps be likened to alcoholism -- some people develop an addiction
    to alcohol, some don't.  But nobody is compelled to drink.

    On the subject of AIDS, Savage is getting a bit carried away.  AIDS is not a
    serious threat to the majority of the population; it remains primarly a
    disease of homoexuals and intravenous drug users, and there is no evidence
    that this is likely to change.

    Message: 54820
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: News
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 18:28:29

      The British government introduced legislation Thursday to
    abolish the right of suspects in Northern Ireland to remain
    silent under police questioning, ending a centuries-old
    pillar of British jurisprudence.

    Message: 54821
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Censorship
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 18:38:18

    From USA Today, Oct. 20, 1988:

    School officials use censorship ruling

      Censorship is still hot news in high school newsrooms -
    nine months after the Supreme Court gave administrators power
    over student publications.
      "The decision has caused students and advisors to pull
    back, to not cover sensitive issues," says Mark Goodman of
    the Washington-based Student Press Law Center.
      Hazelwood East (Mo.) High School Principal Robert Reynolds,
    who started the case, told Associated Press managing editors
    in Boston Wednesday that school officials should oversee
    student publications.
      "We haven't been licensed to censor," Reynolds said.  "I
    tell my teachers: Don't interfere any more than you would in
    a physics class."
      He killed two stories about teen pregnancy and divorce
    because they were "careless reporting not atypical of
    adolescent journalists when left unsupervised by a competent
    journalism teacher."
      The Hazelwood decision has emboldened school
    administrators, press advocates say:

    - At toledo (Ohio) Woodward High, an assistant principal
    reviews controversial stories in *The Tattler*.  "We
    consider the newspaper a part of our curriculum and we want
    to have control," Principal Rebecca Johnson says.
    - At Broomfield (Colo.) High School, Principal James Sandoval
    vetoed a story and cartoon critical of study hall.
      "I'm in school to learn," says *Eagle's Cry* editor Art
    Kirkpatrick, "I've learned how to deal with dictatorship."
    - At Wayland (Mich.) High, the *Paw Prints* adviser is
    fighting a plan by Superintendent Robert Brenner to keep
    stories critical of local businesses out of the newspaper.
      "We can't pick out a segment of the community and say we're
    not going to write about them," adviser Jeff Salisbury says.
    Counters Brenner: "We're not going to have a student paper,
    either rightly or wrongly, attack individuals or businesses
    in the community."

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    Message: 416
    Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 08:14:18

    Hey.........Roddy......

    I just couldn't resist this......Use your left hand!

    See Y'aa!
               Jeannie

    Message: 417
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Pussy Steve
    Subject: Jeannie
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 20:02:33

            I haven't rubbed you, get back in your bottle or jug or whatever it
    was you came out of.
                                    Rod
    P.S.  I do use my left.  The biggest problem I've noted about ambidexterity
    is when you go for your wallet, you aren't sure which pocket it is in.  The
    same goes for a wristwatch.

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