### Apollo BBS Archive - October 16, 1988

            Have you seen a UFO?  Do you even believe in such things?  Answer
    with one that is CLOSEST to your view or experience.

    [A] I have seen a UFO in the sky.
    [B] I have seen a UFO on the ground.
    [C] I have seen a UFO and Alian life
    [D] I have been abducted by an Alian
    [E] I have never seen a UFO but I believe they are life from other worlds.
    [F] I have not seen one and do not believe in such nonsense.

    How do you vote  or  to abort:$

    Poll results to date:
    [A] 1    [B] 0    [C] 0    [D] 1    [E] 2    [F] 3

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    Message: 4512
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 08:37:20

            Your use of DRUGs for a CRUTCH never ceases to amaze me.

            You're not man enough............you need a cop-out!

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 4513
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: UFO's
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 08:43:37

    Anyone see that two hour program last night... Better yet, did any one call
    in on any of the questions about see a UFO...  1,2,3,4 or Non?

    Has anyone on this BBS seen a UFO....  (Anyone that uses drugs such as Rod
    might have a hard time proving their credibility.

    I may just go ahead and post a Vote on this.....

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 4514
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 10:10:00

    Marijuana may have medicinal uses, but that no more validates "recreational"
    use than the fact that penicillin has medicinal uses validates
    "recreational" use of that drug.

    Message: 4515
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 11:14:43

    I saw that 2 hour show last night an it was certainly interesting. I've
    read so much about this sort of stuff and know there's lots of fakes - but
    too much has been seen for it all to be fake. I lean towards believing there
    are aliens out there watching and observing perhaps, but I certainly don't
    believe every story I read.
    When we lived in Prescott,  right in front of Granite Mountain - it
    was about half a mile from the base of it. One night, late, we saw a huge
    ball of multi-colors just go behind the mountain and we could see the
    reflection of the lights even after it disappeared and then it suddenly went
    out. If it stopped or landed, it did so in a vast, uninhabited National
    forest. Years after we moved, we found out that once a year, people come
    from all over the country and spend a week at the base of that mountain
    waiting to catch sight of a UFO - which has been reported to have been many
    sightings. It's some sort of UFO club. Another time, just before we saw
    this, in the eastern sky we saw what appeared to be a viberating star. We
    got a small telescope and saw that it was sylindrical like a rocket but was
    just sitting there horrizontally - it pulsated with colors. I was looking at
    it and it just disappeared in a blink. *::=ANN=::*

    Message: 4516
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 13:22:32

    Weather balloon.

    Message: 4517
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: UFOlogy
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 13:27:08

    Speaking of UFOs, those really interested in the subject should log into
    Paranet (837-0062 3/12/2400 baud).  Jim Speiser provides a lot of
    information on the subject, and a few big names involved in the field are a
    part of the network.

    Message: 4518
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Toddy
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 13:51:56

            That just may have been Toddy up there in the sky huffin' and
    puffin' again instead of a weather ballon ........

            Check again ... was it an Unidentified Flying Object
                            Or  an    Unidentified Floating Object?

    Message: 4519
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: G T
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 14:13:35

    We need a G T........

    Message: 4520
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Locksmithing
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 14:34:53

    Yeah, I found locksmithing so difficult that I had to quit and go to
    college.

    Seriously, Jim Lippard went over the "pot destroys brain cells" argument
    pretty thoroughly on another board, and showed how it wasn't very
    significant.  Rod is the best locksmith in Phoenix, and his (former) use of
    pot doesn't seem to have affected it.  His muddle-headed (but sincere)
    arguments don't stem from drug use, but from a real lack of understanding of
    reality.

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    Subject:DAVID

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     1:        Reality is scary.  Yes, I understand it so I think I'll have another
     2:drink.  Thanks for your good-bad message.
     3:                                Rod
     4:end

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    Message: 4510
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 00:43:36

    The people you have mentioned all have valid reasons for using marijuana,
    whereas you do not.

    If you have to barf because you cannot logically support your use of
    marijauna, that's your problem, not mine.

    I will be all over the valley this year, so I guess you will have to move.

    P.S.  I don't drink mouthwash.  I gargle with it.  FACT.

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    Subject:Todd

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     1:        Your depth of understanding never ceases to amaze me.
     2:end

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    Message: 1076
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Doodle
    Subject: Just a doodle
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 06:45:25

                              HALLOWEEN LOLIPOPS!

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    Message: 1077
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Review/Critique
    Subject: Ann...
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 08:46:56

            Yuk!    spit!     Phoo....

            Just kidding....  They were very good, wait till Sandy see's them.
    WoW!  You have talent there Ann ol'gal!

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 1078
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 10:24:24

    Sure am glad that you are becomeing more active .
                     =)) RALPH ((=

    Message: 1079
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Thanks Cliff - more
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 11:16:25

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    Message: 1080
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Question?
    Subject: G T
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 14:14:57

    We need a G. T................

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    Message: 2164
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 10:27:31

    Shoot them all.
    =)) SHOOT THEM ALL RALPH ((=

    Message: 2165
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 13:54:00

            BANG!     BANG! ..................

                    Their dead.

    Now, go back to sleep Ralph.

    Message: 2166
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Re-BuTTal
    Subject: G T
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 14:16:36

    We need a G. T.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Message: 2167
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Chris Neal
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 14:43:10

    Go away.  You're making a fool of yourself.

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    Subject:David/last

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     1:        Is that why you were gone so long?
     2:end

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    Message: 2162
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Neal
    Date: 10/15/88  Time: 23:09:16

    If conventional forces won't deter them, why would nuclear?
    The odds are that we wouldn't waste nuclear missiles on them anyway.

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    Subject:Nuclear

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     1:        It is indeed a sick world that would have a device to destroy
     2:itself.
     3:end

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    Message: 54684
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul/your wife
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 06:41:57

    Hey Paul - you said yourself she was "OFFENDED' by Rod, not I! That he
    looked 'unwashed' or something to that effect. Are you now saying she
    didn't? You can cut into the people here and say what you want - but you
    want to deny me that same privlige? To be honest, it offended me that she
    came to our GT and condemned Rod - I would feel the same no matter who she
    condemned. If she had least went over and met him or even got close to him
    and then made her judgements, so be it. We all have people we dislike for
    one reason or another. And hey brother, you'd better not cast the first
    stone at me with all those scathing posts you've been sending to Cliff. You
    make me look like an amateur in comparison. Your wife certainly isn't any
    more sacred than Cliff is and I will continue to say what I please on this
    board as long as it's in the realm of Cliff's rules. *::=ANN=::*

    Message: 54685
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/on Nick
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 06:50:16

    Especially Italians that wear 'Godfather black!'

    Message: 54686
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Tom on Duke
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 06:51:08

    Sorry Tom, but I am going to vote for 'The Duke!" ----- Ralph's dog Duke
    that is! *::=ANN=::*

    Message: 54687
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: War!
    Subject: Paul you know who..
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 09:12:01

          "That little mind of yours", yes Paul, you NEVER insult, You never can
    hold back from name calling... just read YOUR posts!
            I read those verses... and in there nowhere does it say that a GAY
    is not a Christian!   Read the Websters definition...one more time.
    I was not defending the Gay life style... I just do not buy YOUR bigoted
    statment a GAY can't be called a CHRISTIAN!  Neither does Webster and he is
    more of an expert on the english language than you!
            Did you know even Animals (lower) have been known to be Homosexual?
    It is not something that can be turned off Paul... Wake up to (I hate to say
    it) the FACTs.
            Incredable....  Hey guys, I am a Christian, but do not even relate
    me to Pauls kind of Christian that alianates everyone that is not PERFECT!
    If you are GAY, and believe in the Christ Child, you are on the right track!
    If you are not GAY and believe in the Christ Child, you are even better off.
    (I figured I had better add that last line as some one would think being GAY
    would put them on the right track...)

            Paul, post your church and minister so we can all stay away from
    that place.   Thankyou!

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 54688
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul's Wife...Paul?
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 09:28:28

            Paul, I suggest you not bring your Wife into an argument, and I am
    sure Ann or anyone will not mention her.  After all, though you, your wife
    attacked Rod.  Remember, anything and everything you use on this BBS can be
    used against you.  (Or should we make this a "Yes Paul" BBS?)

            Carol.... That was low... you never come to GT's anyway.  And we all
    had fun except for Paul and his wife who were only momentarily offended by a
    silly handshake.  And yes, Paul and his wife were trapped in a corner, good
    thing they did not have to go potty in a hurry.
            Besides, there probably will be no more Apollo GT's....

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 54689
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Last Vote
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 09:34:33

            From that last quick ote about what Party will win in November, I
    see Only one person thinks the Democratic Party is going to win it and only
    one person thinks the Libertarian Party is going to win....  I wonder who
    those users are?   The rest...  15 said they felt it was going to be won by
    the Republican Party....  (This did not mean that they wanted it this way,
    but that is how they see it turning out)

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 54690
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/last
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 10:54:08

    Don't look at me! I voted republican because of the question. *::=ANN=::*

    Message: 54691
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff again
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 11:00:28

    What did you mean 'no more Apollo GTs?' Is that an omen or something? I
    thoughly enjoyed every GT I went to and hope for many more. What's up?
    *::=ANN=::*
    Certainly your not letting this trouble with Paul make a descission like
    this???

    Message: 54692
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Tales & Tall Stories
    Subject: Tru Fax
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 12:26:48

    From National Lampoon -

      From the *World Press Review*:
      "Madrid's famous Las Ventas bullring exploded in hoots in
    July when matador Curro Romero refused to kill a bull.  'His
    cowardice,' writes Tim McGirk in *The Independent*, 'so
    enraged an aficionado that he climbed into the ring waving
    ... his ticket ... and felled Romero with a punch.'  A report
    in *El Pais* says that the spectator, who received an
    ovation, claimed to have been a fan of Romero 'but felt
    swindled and wanted a refund.'  Romero was arrested and is
    being sued for breach of contract."

      From the *Orlando Sentinel*:
      "St. Clair (Illinois) County authorities are seeking a
    fire-eating midget cowboy and his toothless brother for
    questioning in the theft of a carnival sideshow.  Operator
    James Dill, forty-eight, said someone stole the tents,
    stages, and bullhorn last week.  Dill said his show featured
    a thirty-two-inch-tall man from Houston and his normal-sized
    brother, the master of ceremonies for 'The World's Smallest
    Cowboy' act.  The midget cowboy's act consisted of eating
    fire, walking on glass, and making a dove disappear."

      GREAT YARMOUTH, England (AP) - A wrestler known as "King
    Kong" Kirk was crushed and killed in the ring when his
    336-pound opponent, television star "Big Daddy" Crabtree,
    threw his full weight on him in a "splashdown" maneuver.
      Emergency medical workers tried to revive the 350-pound
    Kirk at the Hippodrome Circus in Great Yarmouth after the
    accident on Sunday, but he was dead on arrival at James
    Paget Hospital in Gorleston.
      Police later identified the dead man as Malcolm Kirk, of
    Featherstone.
      Les Rose, the Hippodrome's manager, said Big Daddy, whose
    real name is Shirley, did the "splashdown," a specialty of
    his, 15 minutes into the match.
      Great Yarmouth police issued a statement on Monday saying:
    "Big Daddy and King Kong Kirk were in the ring wrestling,
    and, during the bout, King Kong Kirk was held to the floor by
    Big Daddy for the statutory count of three.  Big Daddy got to
    his feet, but, after a few moments, it was realized that King
    Kong Kirk was not moving."
      Big Daddy watched, horrified, in the ring as attempts were
    made to revive his opponent, reported the domestic news
    agency Press Association.
      It took eight men to lift Kirk's stretcher into the
    ambulance, Rose said.
      The police said they were investigating the incident.
      Big Daddy's next scheduled match on Sept. 6 will go ahead
    as planned, Rose said.

    Message: 54695
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 12:47:22

    And who says pro wrestling is faked?

    Message: 54696
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: PAUL
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 13:10:09

    Paul you have forgotten your christion teachings.
    A true christion does not hate. A true christion
    would not knock anothers way of worship like you have the
    Mormans,etc.

    Come now Paul it is time to turn the other cheek,
    and admit you'r wrongs and act like a true and
    good CHRISTION. Even Rod has a right to worship as
    he pleases. So do I, Ann, Cliff, And those that
    worship snakes,cows or whatever they wish. A true
    christion would never question the way others
    belive.     Love one Another

                    Ralph

    Message: 54697
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul/Cliff
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 15:10:52

    Shut up already!

    Message: 54698
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Me
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 16:31:17

            Hey, I was baptised when I was seven.  So I ain't 'unwashed', is I?
    What about Lloyd's wife, she is offended and we've never met.  Hey, was I
    ever offended by Lloyd's appearance?  Yes!
            According to the latest vote, one person was abducted by an
    alien.....wonder who that was......Ann?

            There is an American Atheist meeting this evening at 6:30, Jerry's
    Restaurant, 23rd St. & Thomas.  (Nothing like getting the news early, eh?)
                                            Rod
    P.S.  I am going to bring my Holy Water.  By the way, Satan did teach me
    this nifty handshake and it really works, too.  I'm not sure what it does
    but I guess it must work cause it freaks Christians out something awful.

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     1:        But you aren't a true Christian.  They do not go around saying,
     2:"Shoot Them All", (tm) Ralph Blehm
     3:                                Rod
     4:P.S.  I am a true atheist
     5:end

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    Message: 54678
    Author: Tom Sheehan
    Category: Politics
    Subject: DUKAKIS
    Date: 10/15/88  Time: 21:56:16

            TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE   GOING TO VOTE FOR THE "DUKE" DON'T.
     THE "DUKE LET MURDERERS WORK         OUTSIDE THE PRISON!286 OF THEM KILLED,
    RAPED, AND ROBBED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
    THE "DUKE" WANTS TO TAKE ALL OUR MISSLES AND DESTROY THEM NOW! AND THEN PRAY
    WE WON'T GET ATTACKED!!!
    THE"DUKE" WANTS TO RAISE THE TAXES THAT REAGAN LOWERED !!!
    THE "DUKE" WANTS TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL  TO BEAR ARMS "FIREARMS,GUNS!"
    SO ALL YOU "DUKE" VOTERS THINK AGAIN, HE MAY LOOK GOOD ON T.V. BUT DO YOU
    THINK YOU OR I CAN PUT UP WITH THIS???
    IF ANY ONE HAS ANY INFO. I FORGOT   LET ME NO!
    THIS TO IS NOT A PAID SUBJ.

    Message: 54679
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: gt
    Date: 10/15/88  Time: 23:33:14

    Boy!  *That* was the one I missed and felt so bad about missing???

    Let me know when the next one is to be held...I'll be sure and
    miss that one, too!

    Carol->

    Message: 54680
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff/Numbers
    Date: 10/15/88  Time: 23:37:18

    Congratulations on all the callers and all the messages.

    today is CarolCom's 1st birthday using the TTBBS program.
    it doesn't count the callers, but the messages have reached
    16,100 and I don't think that's too shabby for a Model III.

    I have been signing in here lately and taking notes as how to be
    a *real* Sysop. I think I missed my calling...but they love
    you and they stay and that says a lot.

    Again, congratulations.

    Message: 54681
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Tom/DUKE
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 05:44:44

            He looks good on TV?
                    Rod

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     1:        Remember, we have to have our WARS now so we can kiss and make up by
     2:Christmas.
     3:end

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    Message: 54683
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Christians
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 05:47:41

            Christians can do or think absolutely anything.  They have more
    adjusting entries than any CPA in the universe.

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    Message: 397
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Mighty SYSOPs
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 13:46:20

            Isn't that a rather crude way to pick locks?

    Message: 398
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: G. T.
    Date: 10/16/88  Time: 14:21:29

    We need a G. T.#########$$$$$$$$$$*************
                          =)) SHOOT THEM ALL RALPH ((=

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    Subject:Sandy/locks

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     1:        Actually a jack hammer is a great way to pick locks.  You get rid of
     2:all your aggressions while opening a door for someone.  Plus, the money is
     3:nice, too.
     4:                                Rod
     5:P.S.  Chasity belts are the 'funnest' things to pick.  Why, I'd bet a good
     6:locksmith could even pick one with thier teeth.
     7:end

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