### Apollo BBS Archive - May 22, 1998

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    Message: 3469
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 02:21:43

    Like, we are all, like, related, like ya know?

    Message: 3470
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Convienence stores
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 03:46:32

       I worked at one for about a year, making an average of $4/hour, and
    worked about 30 hours a week.  At the end of that time, all of the people
    that were there when I started were gone.  In fact, some of the positions
    had been filled and refilled several times.  This did bring on the problems
    of poorly trained and criminal employees, but the wages stayed the same.
       The problem is that someone has decided that a convinience store
    clerk is worth $3.35-$4.00, and not a penny more.  Any problems caused by
    this, like high turnover, or criminaly inclined people are viewed as
    unavoidable problems that must be coped with as a consequence of doing
    business, even if this ends up costing more than raising the pay would.
       Speaking of criminals, if you work for Circle K, here's a fun policy they
    have.  If you are robbed, Circle K will fire you, just on the off chance
    that you might have been an accomplice to the crime.  Wonderfull, huh?  Some
    punk waves a gun in your face, beats you up, takes your wallet along with
    the cash in the drawer, and you get fired for that.

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    Message: 3471
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Circle K
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 08:28:27

            If you work at Circle K, it would be pretty stupid to carry your
    wallet on your person.  (and I thought A-L-A-N was smart.....)

            A-L-A-N, do you suggest Circle K should pay the clerks $8.50 per
    hour and that would assure the managment they would have no criminals?

    Message: 3472
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Rod/wages
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 11:01:12

      When you started referring to landlords as 'PIG CAPITALISTS' you said
    that you did this because they were providing housing in order to make
    a profit while you thought that housing should be a basic right. Now
    you say that a large employer of unskilled workers like Circle K is a 'PIG
    CAPITALIST' as well because they do not pay more in salaries than they must
    in order to get workers. Does this mean that an easy job and a high income
    have been added to your list of what should be basic rights?
      A system which meddled with the employer's ability to provide jobs
    would be just as disastrous as your collective housing schemes. These
    ideas have all been tried and were miserable failures. An employer driven
    by profit motive will reward productivity.
      See you later,
        Dean H.

    The SYSOP intervenes...
    :in many ahold on there...  is the GT going on now?
    :No, but James is driving out to 32nd St. & T. Bird to get the film clip and
    :it should be happening about 7:30.
    :
    :OKay  at your place?
    :
    :Yes, Nick is here now because he didn't hear any word but everything is set,
    :ok whwat ti do you want us there?
    :
    :7:15 to 7:30.
    :
    :okay...  wait for us... okay Rod...Nick...
    :
    :OKAY! No problem.
    :
    :I will let you back to whatever...
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    Message: 3473
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Dean
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 18:50:29

            All that I am saying is the employers of places like Circle K should
    give each employee a percentage of the gross during their shift.  An hourly
    job that pays the same, year after year, is disheartening to say the least.
    I have gotton to know some of the employee from time to time and many are
    raising a family and trying to make it on their pay.  Some work double
    shifts or seven days a week.  On the other hand, Karl Eller is a
    multi-millinaire who pays himself quite handsomely and he doesn't value his
    employees, which is obvious.  This sounds a bit like what APS is currently
    doing to its employees while giving themselves large pay raises.
            A person who works at one of these stores have to be talented in
    many areas, they are not dummies.  Have you ever had the dis-pleasure of
    visiting one of these stores during the week night, right before 1 a.m.?
    James Hawley and I sometime go there just to watch the action with the
    beer-heads and twice we had to call the cops to help out.
            I would say they work harder than I to do their jobs, they should be
    paid for it.  They should be stockholders and profit sharers, not common
    chattel.
            Eller and his ilk are pig capitalists, not all companies are like
    that.  Seeing the outrageous prices Circle K charges you'd think maybe the
    people could be paid a decent wage.
                                    Rod

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    Message: 810
    Author: $ Rod Bias
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod Williams
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 03:05:28

    OK, at dawn.

    Weapons?  My choice?

    You asked for it!

         We will quote Bible verses at each other alternately until
         one of us can't take it any more.

                                    Rod Bias

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     1:        I forfeit, you win, I am already sick.
     2:
     3:On second thought, let's see,  "Take all you have and give to the poor and
     4:follow me, take not extra clothing or food, just go into the towns and give
     5:my message and if anyone doesn't like it, brush off the dirt of your sandles
     6:as a testimony against them.  For it is easier for a camel to go through the
     7:eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter heaven."
     8:                                BOB1
     9:end

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    Message: 454
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 02:23:29

    I keep having my modem call those numbers right now, but all I get is some
    guy yelling into the phone?   ?????????

    I would call Rod before you go over.  I haven't picked up the film, and am
    not 100% sure that I can get it tomorrow.  But it should be no problem.

    Message: 455
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 04:11:28

    Message: 453
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: Pizzas
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 01:22:08

            No, JT will bring them.
                    Rod
    P.S.  Telephone, 277-5058, 266-0747

    Message: 454
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 02:23:29

    I keep having my modem call those numbers right now, but all I get is some
    guy yelling into the phone?   ?????????

    I would call Rod before you go over.  I haven't picked up the film, and am
    not 100% sure that I can get it tomorrow.  But it should be no problem.

    Message: 455
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 04:11:28

    Well, if you can't get the film, I have some other 8mm films that some of us
    might find more entertaining.

    Message: 456
    Author: $ Dean McCarron
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: Projectors. . .
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 09:20:50

    Don't hold your breath on my 1950's vintage, cast-iron 8mm projector being
    better than your, Nick.

    Dean

    Message: 457
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: 8mm
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 12:10:29

    I'll show up if we watch Nick's films.

    Message: 458
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 18:13:57

    Yeah, we all know why Nick has his projector!

    But I finally got a hold of Pat Lamanuzzi and am my way over to pick up the
    film.  So if anyone actually sees this, I'll be over at Rods at about
    7:15-7:30pm tonight.

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    Message: 52297
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 08:35:52

            Hey, a post by 'ROD' (barf) that I can agree with!

    Message: 52298
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 08:42:36

    I think if drugs were legalized, use would increase, but people would not

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    Message: 52296
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 01:34:12

            The US of A is losing millions of dollars per day by not legalizing
    drugs.  The system could be set up the same way as alcohol, the kids will
    still be able to get what they want but they can now.  At least this country
    would profit from the sale and not a foreign nation.
            I actually think that drug use will diminish if legalization occurs
    because it will take some of the mystic from it.  Alcohol is legal for me to
    purchase but I stay the hel away from it because I know what it does to me
    and I could buy heroin anytime I want but I have never had to urge to try
    it.  The same goes for 'crack', I know people who have used it and I am told
    that it give you a euphoric effect that last about 20 minutes per use and
    that this effect is the greatest feeling one can experience but I have no
    desire to try that either.
            I don't see how legalizing drugs will hurt this nation but will give
    some out of work farmers something to grow.  Our court systems will be
    cleared up overnight and prisons will be nearly emptied out.  There would
    still be penalities for those who 'drive under the influence', just as there
    is with alcohol.
            I honestly believe that with the legalization of marijuana that
    alcohol abuse will diminish once people try it and compare.  I used to drink
    in the sixties and I was really getting into it but when I was given a
    'joint', I quit drinking, totally.
            Perhaps some of the people in power does not want it to be legalized
    because the import and distribution is a part of their profits.
                                    Rod

    Message: 52297
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 08:35:52

            Hey, a post by 'ROD' (barf) that I can agree with!

    Message: 52298
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 08:42:36

    I think if drugs were legalized, use would increase, but people would not
    use hard drugs as much as they do now.  It is much more economical for
    smugglers to bring in cocaine than marijuana; cocaine is much more valuable
    and takes up less room, thus is less easily detectable.  Legalization would
    do away with such artificial factors that distort the market.  Also, since
    drugs would be commercially available rather than from small-time pushers,
    they would be subjected to the same constraints on product safety that
    applies to the legitimate market for other goods.

    I still don't think it will happen soon, though.  Legalization is getting a
    lot of press these days, but mainly as a reaction to the "war on drugs" of
    the last two years or so.  That will cool down, and the status quo will
    remain.

    Message: 52299
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/drugs
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 09:39:44

    That was a good post Rod. I think it would work. It's better than what is
    going on now. Something must be done and that sounds fesiable. As J.T. said
    - it might create a few new users, but I don't think a serious amount. It
    would at least be safe. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52300
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Lots of Stuff
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 15:25:59

    Pit Bulls:  'Spuds' McKenzie looks pretty mean & vicious to me, too.

    Legalizing Drugs:  Most major tobacco manufacturers (specifically RJR)
    already have joint rolling equipment, standing by for the possibility of
    legalization of marijuana.  I am opposed to legalization of drugs.  Instead,
    the military should take an active role in protecting our borders, since
    drugs certainly do pose a threat to our national security.

    Police Chase:  The Phoenix Police Department's Vehicular Chase policy states
    that when a chase ensues, only two vehicles may follow the suspect directly,
    a supervisor MUST control the chase, air support shall be the preferred
    method of chase, and the public safety, not the desire to apprehend a
    fleeing suspect, shall weigh quite heavily in any decision to chase.  Public
    safety is affected both by the nature of the chase, and the suspects alleged
    criminal activity.

    Hand Gun Bans:  Hand guns may not be in the possession of private individual
    -s in the Federal Republic of Mexico.  For a disturbing example of gun

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     1:        If the entire United States Military forces, including the National
     2:Guard held hands along the entire length of the southern border and if we
     3:had balloons in the sky doing the same thing, drugs would get through to
     4:those who want them.  After all, many of the military of this nation use
     5:drugs on a regular basis and some of them are profit motivated.
     6:        Just because someone is in the military do not assume they are
     7:honest.
     8:        Even if they were all totally honest the drugs would get through, I
     9:have NO doubts about that.
    10:        By the way, if you ever want to buy some good drugs or a particular
    11:weapon, check out our local prisons as a place to buy.  If you have the
    12:money you can have what you want.
    13:                                Rod
    14:end

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    14:                P.S.   Cocaine and some of the other drugs have 'cut' in
    15:them and legalizing them would assure the users that the cut was of a pure
    16:quality and not some tainted material.
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    Message: 52300
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Lots of Stuff
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 15:25:59

    Pit Bulls:  'Spuds' McKenzie looks pretty mean & vicious to me, too.

    Legalizing Drugs:  Most major tobacco manufacturers (specifically RJR)
    already have joint rolling equipment, standing by for the possibility of
    legalization of marijuana.  I am opposed to legalization of drugs.  Instead,
    the military should take an active role in protecting our borders, since
    drugs certainly do pose a threat to our national security.

    Police Chase:  The Phoenix Police Department's Vehicular Chase policy states
    that when a chase ensues, only two vehicles may follow the suspect directly,
    a supervisor MUST control the chase, air support shall be the preferred
    method of chase, and the public safety, not the desire to apprehend a
    fleeing suspect, shall weigh quite heavily in any decision to chase.  Public
    safety is affected both by the nature of the chase, and the suspects alleged
    criminal activity.

    Hand Gun Bans:  Hand guns may not be in the possession of private individual
    -s in the Federal Republic of Mexico.  For a disturbing example of gun bans,
    just review the numerous cases of police excesses in the state of New
    Jersey.

    Michael Kielsky

    Message: 52301
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Kielsky
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 16:45:03

    How do drugs endanger U.S. national security?  And why should the military
    go after other countries when all they are doing is meeting Americans'
    demand for a product?

    Message: 52302
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Kielsky
    Date: 05/22/88  Time: 19:04:29

            If the entire United States Military forces, including the National
    Guard held hands along the entire length of the southern border and if we
    had balloons in the sky doing the same thing, drugs would get through to
    those who want them.  After all, many of the military of this nation use
    drugs on a regular basis and some of them are profit motivated.
            Just because someone is in the military do not assume they are
    honest.
            Even if they were all totally honest the drugs would get through, I
    have NO doubts about that.
            By the way, if you ever want to buy some good drugs or a particular
    weapon, check out our local prisons as a place to buy.  If you have the
    money you can have what you want.
                                    Rod
                    P.S.   Cocaine and some of the other drugs have 'cut' in
    them and legalizing them would assure the users that the cut was of a pure
    quality and not some tainted material.

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