### Apollo BBS Archive - October 2 - 3, 1988

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    Message: 4355
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Neal's stylus
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 02:24:38

    Try taking the stylus assembly to Radio Shack. They stock replacements for
    just about every cheapo phonograph ever made.

    Message: 4356
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Question?
    Subject: David
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 04:47:25

    Are you perhaps confusing me with someone else?
    I am not currently in a war with Rod, and don't recall leaving a message
    concerning his kids.

    Message: 4357
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul/4321
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 08:22:58

    Paul, try reading your post of 9/26/88 msg number 4321... I would call that
    a statment about Rod's kids!   And that's a fact... (something you have a
    hard time remembering)

    SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    P.S. If you forgot what this refers to.... re-read your post number 4356 as
    well....

    (poor old Paul.... sniff (tm))

    Message: 4358
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Nick/Phonograph's
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 12:52:34

    Are you incinuating(sp) that I have cheapo record player?  It was made In
    Germany and probably has more features than a nice Fischer or Kenwood made
    today!!!

    Any questions?
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    Message: 4359
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Debate / dispute
    Subject: Paul/Rod
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 17:42:46

            Paul posted a message concerning Rod and his kids, however I did not
    read any insinuations about Rod's kids ever being arrested as David has
    stated.
            In fact, I found the message a tribute to the children.

    Message: 4360
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Chris's player
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 18:54:40

    Probably talking about a Bang & olufsen eh?

    Take it from someone who has worked in the field, has a father-in-law who
    does and who happens to work for someone who sells them...

    Bang & olufsen * IS * the best.

                    -Mike

    Message: 4361
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod's kids
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 19:30:08

    I don't care what anyone says, they're all pests.

    Message: 4362
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 20:45:46

    "...we see their future sealed by daddy's negative outlook for their lives.
    Prophecy long enough that they will become computer criminals, and they
    probably will be."
    That's what Paul said.  My message was clearly not meant as an attack on
    Paul, however; read it again.  I was teasing Rod.

    Message: 4363
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Carter on B&O
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 01:59:36

    Bang and Olufsen is the best if you're fond of pretentiousness and not audio
    quality. It's not that they're that bad, but you're paying for furniture
    design, not precision hardware.

    Personally, I'd much rather look at a SOTA Star Sapphire (with vacuum
    hold-down and power line conditioner). For a cartridge, a Koetsu Rosewood
    Signature (for euphonic pleasure) and a Monster Cable Genesis (for
    accuracy).

    Message: 4364
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod's kids.
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 06:11:46

    Okay Cliff, I admit forgetting that I left message #4321, since the gist of
    it carried no great importance in the scheme of things, and I have other
    areas of my life that take a much higher priority than BBSing, and
    remembering every word I typed.
    Nevertheless, if you or anyone read anything derogatory in that message
    aimed at Rod's children, you better read it again, as well as the message
    from Rod to which I was referring.
     Now that you have jarred my memory, (thanks, I needed that!), I seem to
    recall that he was bragging about his children's acomplishments in school,
    and then followed that up with the rather negative remark that they would
    probably become computer criminals.
     My comment was aimed, not at his kids, but at his continuingly negative
    outlook on anything and anybody, an outlook that could well pass on to his
    unfortunate offspring, and an attitude that many users, including yourself
    Cliff, have blasted many times in the past, in far more vituperative
    messages than the one I left.
     Finally, I have NO war with Rod. Just a lot of pity in a lot of areas. How
    can one have a war with someone so pathetically locked in to his past that
    he can't see the beauty of a new day?

    Message: 4365
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Democrat Paul
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 07:48:01

    Do you sometimes get the feeling that you are surrounded by 'Militant
    Republicians'? It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they got together,
    vigilante style and hung all the Arizona democrats! Perhaps we would be
    safer to move to California until the election is over. Ha ha. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4366
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Paul again
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 07:57:59

    I've never seen anything taken so out of context as they do the democratic
    party - what they stand for! Stop me if I'm wrong, but has the parties been
    pretty much equal since this country began - in other words, theres been
    just as many demos as there has been rep. presidents? And they all did their
    part in making this county great or worse depending on who it was? It seems
    that Carter gets the main blaim here - but they all avoid Nixon! This is a
    mystery to me. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4367
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Lasy/Nixon
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 08:55:35

            Nixon was a good Presiden in foreign affairs,  He was not a BAD
    president, but he got CAUGHT doing things that most, if not all other
    presidents before him had done...Including your darling Kennedy.  Inflation
    did not run away, We made headway with China, Got out of Vietnam.  I
    certainly do not put him down as a great President, But give me Nixon before
    Carter ANYDAY!

    SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 4368
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Nixon
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 10:17:42

    Yeah, give me those old wage & price controls and "energy crisis".

    Message: 4369
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Nixon
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 10:27:12

            Yea, and the neet 55 mph speed limit....  I didn't say I liked the
    guy... geesh!

    SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 4370
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Lippard
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 15:58:15

    Nixon, at least, did not create a Cabinet-level department to administer the
    "energy crisis."

    Message: 4371
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Mike C./Phonograph
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 16:03:38

    No, it is a PE 3060 (PERPETUUM-EBNER KG) has anyone ever heard of them?

    -Chris
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    Message: 4372
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann/ Republicans
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 21:49:12

    I'm waiting for you in California...

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     1:        They all belong in the 'slammer', those durn brats!
     2:
     3:P.S.  Paul, you were just reading my sense of humor in the message
     4:concerning computer crime and kids.'  Come to think of it, I guess my humor
     5:gets me in a lot of trouble.  Too bad we do not have talking Bulletin Board
     6:Systems.
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    Message: 1028
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: "he"
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 16:50:09

    Who is this "he" man?

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     1:        Get outta here, you are from Tucson and down there the people are
     2:flaky.  Phoenix is a much better place.  Phoenix can beat Tucson anytime (if
     3:it existed).
     4:                                Rod
     5:end

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    Message: 2056
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Up Yours
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 02:25:29

    Excuse me, but I am not a "dirtball."

    Message: 2057
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 11:16:02

    By chance...  when you were conceived, were there any cosmic disturbances
    or nuclear testing that day?

    Message: 2058
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: last few
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 18:56:47

    You forget...

    Rod has no conception of time.

    Therefore he has no life.

    Message: 2059
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Nick
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 22:50:07

            Okay, then how about, Greaseball?

    Message: 2060
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject:last few
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 22:51:08

            If humans landed on some intelligent planet, the first thing they
    would do is prepare for peace by stock piling weapons.

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    Message: 54417
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod's father-in-law
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 07:25:41

    Rod, your father-in-law doesn't know what he's talking about.  The
    Libertarian Party was formed in 1971 by some Republicans disgruntled with
    the Nixon administration after the president imposed wage and price
    controls.  The Libertarian candidate in 1972, John Hospers, received one
    electoral vote from Virginia, from a faithless Nixon elector.  The peak of
    the Libertarian Party's popular strength in preidential elections came in
    1980, when Ed Clark received a whopping 1.1 percent of the vote (including
    11.7 percent of the vote in Alaska, which actually had a Libertarian state
    legislator for a while).  Since the Republicans have embraced a more
    free-market ideology during the 1980s, there isn't much need for a
    Libertarian Party anymore, so the only people who vote for them are the
    die-hards who think drug laws are the moral equivalent of slavery and who
    want to eliminate the FBI.

    The only significant minor parties formed during the Depression were the
    Union Party, which was started in 1936 and dissoved in 1939, and the
    Socialist Workers Party, a Trotskyite band which lives on in obscurity to
    this day.

    Message: 54418
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Todd
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 11:42:47

    Gee you'r Dad and myself are the only people that have any sense.
    We could also include all people that run for an office.
    the so called poor,and homeless.
    Anyone that disagrees with us.

    Message: 54419
    Author: Terry Ponder
    Category: Tales & Tall Stories
    Subject: LTA
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 13:59:37

    I pray in the near future many more of the children who are conceived at
    least get the "opportunity to live".  If they, the children survive perhaps,
    someday they will get older and have big problems like you.  TBP - I am a
    bastard myself - I'm lucky abortion was not legal in the good'ole USA when I
    was born - wasn't I? Note: "Love is a trust Agreememt" lta/tbp/sig
    Questions:  Why is murder legal for some to commit, while for others it is
    not?  Is your life more precious to the Land of Liberty than anyother
    citizen of the Country?  Were you once in your Mother's uterus?  Why did God
    not abort you?  Who is supreme - you - The Declaration of Independence - or
    God?  Suggestion:  Don't murder God's children anymore - Moratorium on
    abortion proposed as sent to the United Nations - NY - NY!!! TBP/SIG - LTA-
    "Love is a Trust Agreement" - Terry B. Ponder - author

    Message: 54420
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Project Censored
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 14:37:21

    Dumping toxic wastes on the Third World

      Exporting hazardous and toxic wastes to Third World
    countries is a growth industry.  The exported material
    includes chemical-contaminated wastes, pharmaceutical refuse,
    and municipal incinerator ash, all of which can cause
    contamination of ground water and crops, birth defects, and
    cancer.
      Traditionally most U.S. toxic waste exports have gone to
    Canada, where regulations are less stringent than in the U.S.
    But now the most abrupt increase is in shipments to the Third
    World, where regulations are either non-existent or barely
    enforced.
      The need for new overseas dumping grounds has been caused
    by an explosion in the volume of *recorded* hazardous wastes
    being produced in the U.S.  According to the General
    Accounting Office, the amount rose from about nine million
    metric tons in 1970 to at least 247 million tons in 1984;
    other experts place the current figure at close to 400
    million metric tons.
      U.S. officials, aware of the sensitive legal and foreign
    policy questions involved, are reluctant to crack down on
    illegal dumpers.  The government itself is responsible for
    generating a significant portion of the hazardous waste

    exports.  One large illegal operation that was halted last
    year had received more than half its toxic wastes from
    various branches of the federal government, mainly the
    military.
      Through court records, interviews, and government
    documents, reporters found the following examples:
    - Philadelphia is planning to ship 600,000 tons of ash
    residue a year from its municiple incinerator to Panama.
    - L.P.T., a company with offices in American Samoa and
    California, is seeking approval to build an incinerator in
    American Samoa to burn U.S. wastes and export the ash to the
    Philippines.
    - Western Pacific Waste Repositories, based in Carson City,
    Nevada, is proposing to build a hazardous waste storage and
    treatment plant on Erikub atoll, an uninhabited area of the
    Marshall Islands.
      U.S. government officials responsible for monitoring toxic
    waste traffic claim they are powerless.  "Under the federal
    system, we only have control over what's in the country,"
    says Wendy Grieder, an official in the EPA's Office of
    International Activities.  "Once it leaves, we can't do
    anything about it."
      But exported wastes may return to haunt us.  "It's
    possible that we could send sludge to the Caribbean and they
    might use it on spinach or other vegetables," warned Grieder.
    And since the Food and Drug Administration checks only a
    small portion of food entering the U.S., exporting hazardous
    wastes could easily end up on our dinner table.

    Sources: *The Nation*, Oct. 3, 1987, "The Export of U.S.
    Toxic Wastes," by Andrew Porterfield and David Weir.

    Message: 54423
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Kielsky #54402
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 15:06:57

      *My* references are *Utne Reader*, No. 29, Sept./Oct.
    1988, which is sitting right in front of me.
      If you're sincere about tracing that article, I would
    suggest writing to Earth Island Journal, 300 Broadway, Ste.
    28, San Francisco, CA  94113 and asking them what their
    sources were for the article "Secret Documents Reveal Nuclear
    Accidents Worldwide," by Gar Smith with Hans Hollitscher in
    their Summer, 1987 issue.  Maybe you could post their
    response here where we could all read it.
      Why do I get the feeling that you won't bother?  It's very
    easy not to find what you don't want to see.
         Apro Poet

    Message: 54424
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: War!
    Subject: Paul SAVAGE
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 18:49:07

    No response eh?
    My computers at the Airport do that occasionally..only they soon find
    out they get a HOT soldering iron attached to them very quickly.
    Your lack of response indicates a lack of reproach on your behalf.
    I think the users of this BBS, albeit, everyone you parade your nonsense
    democratic barrage of gesticulations and free lunches on deserves
    better than quiet defiance.

    Where's your morals?

    Message: 54425
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: War!
    Subject: Again, Paul
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 18:52:47

    You remind me of the same folks ANN was talking about.
    The freeloaders so earnestly begging for a better world and then
    doing nothing about it except electing a government who's sole
    objective is to play Monarchial King and rule with a irresponsible
    idea that everything is free as long as the tax fountain keeps running.

    I barf on your horse$#!+.

            -Mike

    Message: 54426
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: rape
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 19:03:15

    Following a lenghtly discussion about rape and the current state of
    affairs with our juducial system, our group has decided that further
    action is required.

    Support castration by weed-eater , it's the only way.

            -Mike

    Message: 54427
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carter on Savage
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 19:29:41

    Calm down.  I don't think Paul believes that people shouldn't be held
    responsible for their actions, or that people should be given a "free
    lunch," with the exception of government employees.  He is simply using
    images of these poor wretches to slander the good name of Ronald Reagan and
    the Republican Party because, as a (retired) government employee, he is a
    devoted Democrat and a member of the Democrats' largest constituency.  (Why
    do you think Democrats do so well in the District of Columbia and Maryland?)

    Message: 54428
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Arpo Poet
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 22:53:01

    Not good enough...

    Message: 54429
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Michael Carter
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 05:49:22

    Why respond? To what?
    Your rantings and ravings prove nothing more than the fact of a better than
    average education in the use of the English language, accompanied by an
    excellent vocabulary, probably the result of a good Australian educational
    system.
    So what? That doesn't make you any more or less moral than I, nor does it
    really prove your points, if any.
     Actually, you impress me as being the kind of person who, in a face to face
    discussion, would soon turn it into a contest to see who can shout the
    loudest, and thereby "defeat" the adversary. Not really too impressive, and
    the type of argument in which I refuse to immerse myself.
    Have fun in your continuing soliloquy (sp.).

    Message: 54430
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Again, Mike
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 06:00:03

    Again, you insist on displaying your ignorance, as well as the futility of a
    head filled with information and no common sense or courtesy.
    If you eer took the time to know of whom you speak and ridicule, you would
    know that the last word in the world that would fit me is freeloader.
    I worked from the time I was 16 years old and a senior in high school until
    recently, when I retired after a 32 year career in government service, a
    career during which I never once felt the need to thank anyone for my
    paycheck, because I had earned every cent.
     In all those years, and while I participated in th creation of 5
    responsible adults, I never once received an unemployment check, never
    applied for welfare, never even looked at a food stamp, or any other
    giveaway program.
    So take your assessment of me, based on the depth of your ignorance, and
    stick it where the sun doesn't shine. The excrement you so laughinly call
    messages are enough to make me vomit.
    No response needed, since I shall in the future exercize my "S" key when I
    see your joke of a name attached to a post.
    Meanwhile, may God smile upon your sweet and gentle nature, and bless you
    with all the blessings you deserve.

    Message: 54431
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Weed Eater?
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 07:41:08

    I'm all for castration by 'weed eater'! Beats the heck out of abortion by
    getting to the real root of the problem to begin with! Heh heh heh.
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54433
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: KIELSKY
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 10:53:11

         Utne Reader can be found at the Phx. Public Library.
    The only thing it will cost you is time.

    Message: 54434
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 15:49:33

    There's no substitute for careful analysis.

    Message: 54435
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 17:53:15

    There's no substitute for repetition of a joke that is about as funny as Kip
    Adotta.

    Message: 54436
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: review of apollo
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 18:07:04

    Cliff:  The collection of messages under this name are nothing more than
    thinly veiled ad hominem attacks with little reasoning to support the
    political assertions made within.  Among the statements made with little
    logical contemplation are (1) Dukakis supporters are immoral (because Cliff
    does not agree with some of his policy), (2) People with lower intelligence
    like democraats because they want the freebies , (3) This is just a theatre
    and not REAL (therefore you can be as much of an arrogant a$$ as you want,
    but it's not REALLY you.)  Perhaps the most irritating thing about the
    messages under Cliff's name are the SMILE messages at the end.  There is
    nothing more annoying than being told to smile.

    Mike Carter:  Here's one to consider.  Mike Carter used to be known as a
    master of the WAR board on the Keep BBS.  That was about all he was known
    for.  He has a good vocabulary at his disposal, but little capacity to use
    it.  The whole of Mike Carter's literary essence on this BBS can be summed
    up with the statement:  "Rapists should be castrated by weed eater."

    JT:  In the few rare moments when he is coherent and articulate, this
    persona is actually a contributing force to the BBS.  Otherwise, by the time
    one is through sifting through all the opinions, ad hominem and
    attention-soliciting jibes, it's just not worth it.

    Ann Oudin:  The messages under this name are usually a high proportion of
    opinion to a low proportion of analysis.  There also seems to be a lot of
    repetition, and the length she uses to express herself could be shortened
    with increading punch.  However, I like her straightforward approach, and I
    like Ann, so it's OK.

    Paul Savage:  He hasn't written anything lately that's been incriminating,
    so I'll give him a good review.  He hasn't said anything like "Fags should
    be taken to the desert and shot," and has been reasonably coherent.  (Ralph
    Blehm has, and will be dealt with next).  The only negative points Paul gets
    are for being a wee bit TOO defensive when he responded to Mike Carter.  But
    that's OK, because it was one of the more interesting messages lately, as
    compared to most on this BBS, which are as bland as communion wafers in
    milk.

    Daryl Westfall:  He's OK, as long as he isn't talking about Prince or
    writing poetry (Just kidding.  Your poetry is absolutely fabulous).

    Ralph Blehm:  Here's an odd one.  He wants to shoot everybody.  Assuming
    he's kidding, it's a fairly funny joke, but it's only one joke.  The rule
    should be one joke per message, and one message per joke.  Assuming he's not
    kidding, he should be stood up against a wall and shot.  Either way I give
    him a thumbs up.
                                                I think I will shut up now.

    Message: 54438
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Project Censored
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 19:05:53

    Torture in El Salvador: The report from Mariona prison

      In late 1986 a 165-page report was smuggled out of the
    Mariona men's prison in El Salvador.  Compiled by five
    imprisoned members of the Human Rights Commission of El
    Salvador (CDHES), the report documents the routine use of at
    least 40 kinds of torture on political prisoners.
      The report said that torture is systematic, not random,
    and that U.S. servicemen often act as supervisors.  Reports
    of torture are nothing new in El Salvador.  What is new,
    according to the report, is that torture, together with the
    continued use of death-squad kidnappings, is integral to the
    U.S. counterinsurgency program there.
      The Marin Interfaith Task Force of Mill Valley, California,
    assembled the smuggled report from Mariona prison into a
    document titled "Torture in El Salvador."  Starting in
    September 1986, the Task Force has tried to generate media
    interest in the story, sending the report to the nation's
    major newspapers, including the *New York Times*,
    *Washington Post*, *Boston Globe*, and *Los Angeles Times*,
    as well as to the wire services.  Before February 1987, when
    Alexander Cockburn wrote his article for *The Nation*, the
    only media coverage had been in Mexico and Europe, in a UPI
    Spanish-language story, and on Spanish-language radio.

      As Cockburn noted, it was "during this period, on Nov. 22,
    1986, that Secretary of State George Shultz asked Congress
    to approve nearly $7 million in police aid for El Salvadore
    in 1987, providing the necessary certification that the
    government of El Salvadore had 'made significant progress
    during the six-month period preceding this determination in
    eliminating any human rights violations.'"
      On Oct. 26, 1987, assassins probably belonging to the
    Salvadoran security forces murdered Herbert Ernesto Anaya,
    head of the Salvadoran Human Rights Commission and the last
    survivor of that commission's eight founders.  Anaya also
    was one of the five original researchers and authors of the
    smuggled report from the Mariona men's prison.

    Sources: *The Nation*, Feb. 21, 1987, "After the Press Bus
    Left," and Nov. 14, 1987, "The Press and the Plan," both by
    Alexander Cockburn; *San Francisco Examiner*, Nov. 14, 1986,
    "In prison, Salvador rights panel works on," by Ron
    Ridenhour; *Marin Interfaith Task Force on Central America*,
    July 2, 1987, letter and various documents, by Liz Erringer.

    Message: 54440
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Zak
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 20:20:21

            I removed my posts and I will remove the "SMILE" from the sign off

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 54441
    Author: Lance Allen
    Category: Politics
    Subject: CHOICE
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 20:41:51

     My choice is the Duke! I'm sick of and tired of the Big Lies from the
    sleezy Repuglicans!!  Just check out today's paper page 1. Very bottom it
    reads "Murder mars program Bush backed for cons..!

      Vote Dukakis!! this Nov.
     This is *not* a paid polictal statement..
      -Lance A.

    Message: 54442
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 21:55:01

    Nor was it a very coherent statement.

    Message: 54443
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Zak
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 21:55:57

    Quit picking on Cliff.
    It's my understanding that he is something of a "contributing force to the
    BBS" too.

    Message: 54444
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: VOTE
    Date: 10/03/88  Time: 23:12:56

          I was a participant in a national, telephone survey, this past
    week.  A woman, phoning from Philadelphia, asked me about 20 questions,
    all pertaining to national politics.  What amazed me is when she was
    questioning me about my choice for the office of president, I was only
    given two choices, Bush or Dukakis, Democrat or Republican.
          I was asked the usual questions about race, religion, education
    and income.  The choices of religion was just that, there were no
    mention of atheist or even agnostic, let alone SubGenius.
          I completed the interview and I voted for "None of the Above"
    and gave Ron Paul, the Libertarian a mention.  I gave her a hard time
    about their choices of religions.  I was glad I voted.

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    Message: 1567
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last
    Date: 10/02/88  Time: 02:26:05

    Oh I don't know, why don't you pick one?

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