### Apollo BBS Archive - June 12, 1990

    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 6579
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Names
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 13:35:04

      I listed everyone by the name they use on the BBS intentionally. I could
    have used names like Mark Adkins and Ron Harvey, but I figured that there
    might be other BBS names that I don't know aren't real, so why try to
    distinguish them.
      See You Later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 6580
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Weapons
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 14:39:45

    The following letter to the editor is from the Riverside Press-Enterprise:
       "89 Die in New York club fire." It has happened. It is time to stop this
    senseless carnage. Thousands die every year in home fires. Thousands more
    die from smoking cigarettes which are lit from these semi-automatic "assault
    type" cigarette lighters.
       One BIC has the awesome "fire power" to start 500 or more fires. Millions
    of acres of our prime National Forests have been reduced to ashes by these
    awesome weapons of destruction. They are readily available to little
    children, arsonists, gang members, drug dealers, and mentally unstable
    persons for as little as fifty cents. There must be immediate registration
    of all these weapons now in possession and psychological profiles taken from
    future purchasers while a local, state, and FBI check is done. Failure to
    register should be a felony.
       Since there is no sporting use for these awesome weapons and the
    potential misuse is beyond imagination, we must control them. After all,
    wouldn't it be worth it if only one life could be saved?
                    -Bob L.  Riverside, Ca.

    Message: 6581
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 23:07:43

    Give that man in Riverside a medal.

    Message: 6582
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 23:39:00

    No, give him a Bic.

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    Message: 3914
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
    Subject: last
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 01:54:11

    Ulch.
    I'm still laughing tho...

    Message: 3915
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Jeff
    Da

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    Message: 3914
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
    Subject: last
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 01:54:11

    Ulch.
    I'm still laughing tho...

    Message: 3915
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Jeff
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 10:02:36

    Watch it.  Or I'll sic my Dog on you!  :>

    Message: 3916
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: $#!+
    Subject: ROD/3913
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 11:09:24

    Wow!  Rod wins TWO awards for funniest posts of the 90s.  So far.

    Message: 3917
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Shit-Chat!
    Subject: Ann or Melissa?
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 11:13:25

    Sorry, Ann.  I didn't mean to ignore you; I just replied to the wrong
    person.  I was hoping to get at Melissa a bit (For God's sake don't tell her
    this!) for being so analytical re Woody Allen and diarrhea, but the whole
    thing has backfired now and I'm shattered.

    Message: 3918
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Up Yours
    Subject: Commercial
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 23:15:35

    Try EX-LAX... the Diarrhea drug of the 90's...
    Ask Mr and Mrs Mexican tourista's here;
    "Say, Mr groucho, how do you like our beig cities and our 216,000 chinese
    fast food places?"
    I think America needs some EX-LAX..the diarrhea es-specialist .
    "Why's that Groucho?"
    Did you ever take a close look at Rosetta Moffordo ?
    "Uh, you mean the Governor of Arizona, don't you? "
    "Ci, she's got beig wrinkles and a frown that tells me she's constipated...
    "You mean she's full of shit?"
    Yeah, and I tell you what, Gringo, you better give her some room when
    she takes those pills.

    Public & Free Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 66521
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Joke
    Subject: Middleton
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 01:49:05

    After reading this barrage of messages I'm left with the feeling
    that Middleton wants to be a martyr and instead of justifying his
    own public tirade of temper leav. The cowards way out.
    Fortunately not all people, even Christians are not like him.
    They at least have the intestinal fortitude to face up to opposing
    viewpoints, strong opinions contrary to their own and yes, even some
    foolish name-calling. But they're here and Middleton's there.
    That's what separates the people who really beleive in what they talk
    about. Anyone who coughs up as much cowabunga as Middleton is
    definitely not being honest.
    Maturity and real experience will need to be his teacher. The works
    of Christ seem to have gone over his head. Rational people know that
    rational people who own guns are nothing to be feared. Mike Middleton
    seems to fear everyone and anyone who has the right to keep and BEAR arms.
    (Not BARE..Cliffy). This type of paranoia is exactly what the media
    feeds to the public in huge doses. A reactionaries feast of delight.
    Love and peace are what we're searching for all through our lives.
    IN one form or another, peace, happiness and love make the ideal world/
    universe. The only problem is that we're here to learn the difference
    between the peace and war, love and hate, happiness and remorse. A life
    without such is an unfulfilled one. You cannot fully enjoy beauty without
    knowing what ugly is. Ugly is Mike Middletons heart. Full of judgemental
    poison ready to spit in self-righteous squirts into your face if you
    **dare** own a gun and "Claim to be a Christian."

    Message: 66522
    Author: $ Steve MacGregor
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Gun Control
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 04:14:18

       It rather looks like *everyone* believes in gun control.  We only argue
    about the specific degree of control that should be in effect.

                                                    =(O,O)=  Hoot!

    Message: 66523
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Me
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 05:12:21

            I'm not dead yet.

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 66524
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: curved universe
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 07:41:28

    If our universe is closed, and you follow a geodesic in three space, you
    will return from where you started.

    Message: 66525
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Alan Hamilton
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 09:46:08

            No, your not dead, but you are Chris Zagar!  I hope you make it to
    the Movie GT... then you can look at Dean Hathaway with daggers in your
    eyes.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    Message: 66526
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Roger on universe
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 09:48:03

            I have always visioned the universe to be like a big bathtub, with
    the drain being the Black Hole.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    Message: 66527
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: News Today
    Subject: ROD/66519
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 11:08:45

    Rod wins for funniest Apollo post of the 90s.  So far.

    Message: 66528
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff on universe
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 12:31:05

    And you sitting in the middle of it with your rubber ducky ?

    Message: 66529
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Steve M.
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 13:51:11

      Yes, even I agree that felons and lunatics should not be allowed to
    purchase firearms, and that certain dangerous activities like shooting
    across a road or inside a city should be forbidden. Of course all these gun
    control laws already exist and nobody is arguing for their removal. We do
    not all agree that any further gun control is needed. Some of us would favor
    more controls on violent criminals and lunatics, but that is not gun
    control.
       A person who has not lost his civil rights for cause needs no more gun
    control than the laws against endangering others which compare to traffic
    laws for cars, and already exist in abundance.
       See You Later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 66530
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/MikeM
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 14:02:32

      It seems that he listens to phone conversations about as well as he reads
    messages, through a strong filter which protects him from anything which
    would challenge his beliefs, while amplifying anything which can be used as
    an excuse to go home and pout. He never addressed any argument against gun
    control which any of us made, he only tried to make it sound like we were
    bad for making them. Gun control advocates seldom do address the reasons why
    gun control has and will continue to be a mistake, they just close their
    eyes and push ahead.
       See You Later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 66531
    Author: $ John Cummings
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Middleton/Christ
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 16:20:36

            Yes, I've read Jesus' teachings, and I believe them. And I believe
    He tells me in no uncertain terms that it is a tough life, BUT I am called
    to follow the will of God--ten commandments, not ten suggestions.  One of
    them says, "Thou shalt not kill," but none of them say thou can't defend
    thyself.  The Old Testament, especially (but also the New) is full of
    demands that we be strong, and warnings that we'll be persecuted.
    --John C.--

    Message: 66532
    Author: $ John Cummings
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Goodby Mike
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 16:31:54

            All decent Christians will miss Mike and will feel compassion for
    his anger and hurt. But I don't think any will miss his diatribes and his
    stubborn short-sighted narrow-minded bigotry about charity and love.
            (Does that make sense?)    _John C.-
    P.S. Is it true that I can log back on the same day, or am I restricted to
    one time only?

    Message: 66533
    Author: $ John Cummings
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gun control
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 16:37:36

            Gun control means hitting the target, right?
                    --John C.--

    Message: 66534
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: John Cummings
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 20:51:27

            Oh my, You may log in as many times as you need, the time limit is
    just a way to give another guy trying to dial in a chance.  When you log
    out, wait a moment, then dial back...or wait an hour an dial back.  What
    ever works for you.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    Message: 66535
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: John Cummings on GC
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 20:56:48

            Hitting the target is good 'gun control' and should be the only type
    of 'gun-control' sought.   I love it!

            Now if we could only get 'criminal control', but politicians would
    rather put us all under lock an key.  Can you say "Ba-a-a-a-ah" like a
    sheep?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    Message: 66536
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cummings/Christ
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 21:27:32

     'You have learned that they were told, "Love your neighbor, hate your
      enemy." But what I tell you is this: Love your enemies and pray for
      your persecutors; only so can you be children of your heavenly Father'

     "You have learned that they were told, "Eye for eye, tooth for tooth."
      But what I tell you is this: Do not set yourself against the man who
      wrongs you. If someone slaps you on the right cheek, turn and offer
      him your left. If a man wants to sue you for your shirt, let him have
      your coar as well.

      Matthew 5 New English Bible

    Message: 66537
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
    Subject: Video GT
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 21:48:39

      I would like to host a GT to present the APOLLO GT's video compilation. I
    would like to do it as soon as it is practical for at least a few people to
    attend. I have tapes to return to Mike C. and Cliff, which can be done then
    also. Who could make it sometime this weekend? How about next weekend? How
    about sometime inbetween? I go on vacation the weekend after next, so I
    would like to do it before then.
       See You Later,
          Dean H.

    Message: 66538
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Various stuff
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 22:28:02

    Re: Videos.  I'd like to be able to see the videos, especially the one of
    our 'gun' outing.

    Re: Gun Control.  The idea of restricting the law-abiding from obtaining
    firearms is ludicrous in a free society.  Measure your freedom by the ease
    of obtaining items which, if widely and easily available, might be dangerous
    to the government (i.e. firearms, bibles, books, newpapers, etc.).

    Michael Kielsky ("I'm the NRA", wouldn't you like to join, too?)

    Message: 66539
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
    Subject: Video GT
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 22:35:38

    I can do it through this Saturday.  After that, I turn into a pumpkin.

    Message: 66540
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: VIDEO GT
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 23:06:21

    Howabout Saturday at around 2-ish? (pm) I have a (OHMYGOD) ** GUN **
    class on Saturday till around noonish.

    Message: 66541
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
    Subject: Apollo, the Movie
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 23:48:33

    I can do it most any weekend.  Does anyone what to chip in for JT's plane
    fare?  I can afford $25.

    Message: 66542
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bill Burkett
    Date: 06/12/90  Time: 23:50:43

    Thanks but when I saw your statement on the Cosmos sig about funny posts I
    thought, honestly, that you were referring to my post on the Devil's Island
    sig.  Thanks again.   -Rod

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