### Apollo BBS Archive - July 13, 1987

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    Message: 1538
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 07/12/87  Time: 22:50:36

    Making statements based on experience is fine, but do not make general
    statements based on narrow personal experiences.

    Message: 1540
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: KHEP
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 00:02:33

    Oops.

    Message: 1541
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: James
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 10:15:21

    Forget it!

    Message: 1542
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Sex & Love
    Subject: "Fixed"
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 11:15:53

      I have always thought that to be a misnomer.  A cat that has been spayed
    or neutered isn't fixed, it's broken!

         /
     /  *  /  Alan
    *     *

    Message: 1544
    Author: $ Nikki Kalua
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Harliquin
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 20:13:57

    Speaking of being "fixed" and dogs...
    My cat, Harly Quin, is about 7 weeks pregnant.  I can feel the little
    critters kickin' and she will probably give birth soon.  Anyone wanna bet
    when it happens?  I don't know what prize to give, other than a kitten
    (after six weeks).

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    Message: 45059
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: In search of
    Subject: LIFE
    Date: 07/12/87  Time: 21:42:33

             Senescence begins
             And middle age ends
             The day your descendents
             Outnumber your friends.
                            O. Nash

    Message: 45060
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Alan
    Date: 07/12/87  Time: 22:46:20

    The Reagan Administration should have challenged the Boland Amendment in
    court.  It was a sloppy move not to.  The administration also deserves to be
    taken to task for not doing a better job of promoting aid to the Nicaraguan
    freedom-fighters to the American people (I am happy to see North doing a
    great job of that now).  I also agree that it is nearly impossible to
    justify selling arms to Iran, unless their purpose is to defend against the
    Soviet Union, or trading arms for hostages.

    However, let us not fool ourselves into thinking the purpose of the
    congressional hearings is to make the administration accountable to the
    public for its actions.  The average person doesn't care about Nicaragua.
    Most people don't even know where the country is or which side the U.S.
    supports, and all the rhetoric from the appeasers and communist sympathizers
    on the left cannot help but confuse them more.  It is telling that the
    element of the scandal that is most offensive to the American public--the
    dealings with Iran--is only a secondary issue in the congressional hearings.
    (Actually, this is in my view a gross miscalculation on the Democrats' part;
    they would have a much easier time attacking President Reagan by appealing
    to public hostility towards Iran.)

    Message: 45061
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 07/12/87  Time: 22:47:12

    Presumably we agree on anything you bother to think about.  We don't agree
    on the issue of whether women are underpaid because you believe what you
    want to believe regardless of the facts.

    Message: 45062
    Author: $ James White
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Fundamentalism is...
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 07:44:37

    Sometime in 1986 a friend of mine at church gave me a photocopy of a booklet
    entitled "Fundamentalism is Nonsense" by a Mr. Jim Lippard.  Some friend of
    his had left the copy on his desk anonymously.  My friend made no bones
    about his being a Christian while at work, and seemingly someone felt that
    he needed to be "set straight" so to speak.  I did not at that time read all
    the way through the work, rather I gave it a brief overview and found it to
    be very interesting but not, in my opinion, extremely well researched.  I
    did at that time notice that there were excerpts from various BBS systems
    here in Phoenix contained in the book.  Indeed, that is how I ended up
    calling Apollo when I first had access to a modem.  Obviously, I have
    encountered Jim Lippard here on Apollo, and a few months ago I received from
    Jim the current edition of his booklet.  Now, I realize that Jim is working
    on a revision of his book.  Fine and good.  I sincerely hope that the
    criticisms that I am going to post will be of aid to him in his revision
    work.
         I do not intend these posts to be an exhaustive treatise on each point.
     However, I do feel that a number of errors have been made that could have
    been avoided had proper research been undertaken.  How Jim responds will be
    dependent upon what his purpose is in writing his work.  If he wishes only
    to confuse simplistic believers, then my criticisms will have little weight.
     However, if he wishes to present some kind of balanced work that would hold
    some kind of critical weight with someone such as myself who has been
    trained in the subject, then some major revisions must be made.

    Message: 45063
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: James.last
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 10:13:21

    See what I mean James? You insist in talking down to me. We can never have a
    debate when you are in this frame of mind. On the subject of women - you are
    wrong and simply won't admit it!  No - I won't even say that - you just
    don't know period!! -- ANN

    Message: 45064
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Life
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 17:32:25

      It is surprising that we take information like this so
    calmly, as though it fitted in nicely with notions we've had
    all along.  Actually, the suggestion that chloroplasts and
    mitochondria might be endosymbionts was made as long ago as
    1885, but one might expect, nevertheless, that confirmation
    of the suggestion would have sent the investigators out into
    the streets, hallooing.  But this is a sober, industrious
    field, and the work goes on methodically, with special
    interest just now in the molecular genetics of organelles.
    There is careful, restrained speculation on how they got
    there in the first place, with a consensus that they were
    probably engulfed by larger cells more than a billion years
    ago and have simply stayed there ever since.
      The usual way of looking at them is as enslaved creatures,
    captured to supply ATP for cells unable to respire on their
    own, or to provide carbohydrate and oxygen for cells
    unequipped for photosynthesis.  This master-slave
    arrangement is the common view of full-grown biologists,
    eukaryotes all.  But there is the other side.  From their
    own standpoint, the organelles might be viewed as having
    learned early how to have the best of possible worlds, with
    least effort and risk to themselves and their progeny.
    Instead of evolving as we have done, manufacturing longer
    and elaborately longer strands of DNA, and running

    Message: 45065
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Life
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 17:40:08

    ever-increasing risks of mutating into evolutionary
    cul-de-sacs, they elected to stay small and stick to one
    line of work.  To accomplish this, and to assure themselves
    the longest possible run, they got themselves inside all the
    rest of us.
      It is a good thing for the entire enterprise that
    mitochondria and chloroplasts have remained small,
    conservative, and stable, since these two organelles are, in
    a fundamental sense, the most important living things on
    earth.  Between them they produce the oxygen and arrange for
    its use.  In effect, they run the place.
      My mitochondria comprise a very large portion of me.  I
    cannot do the calculation, but I suppose there is almost as
    much of them in sheer dry bulk as there is the rest of me.
    Looked at in this way, I could be taken for a very large,
    motile colony of respiring bacteria, operating a complex
    system of nuclei, microtubules, and neurons for the pleasure
    and sustenance of their families, and running, at the
    moment, a typewriter.

    Message: 45067
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Jim White/Radio
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 19:51:14

    Gee, Jim, let me on your show, introduce me as a 'radical atheist' and give
    me five minutes to blow god away, then, Jim, I will fall on the floor, start
    squeaking in tongues, praise Jesus, claim that my toothache is gone, okay?
      All this for $25. and a free subscription to your newsletter.
      If I had been on your show, I would have blown you away but I was too busy
    singing "Oh bloody, bloody Jesus, I love your blood so red, I love the
    bloody corpusles streaming from yer head."
      Another 'time', perhaps?
                        Yours in Bobra and all other things that matter, I am,
                            Me
    P.S.  It is nice to be me, it is great not to be lost in stupidity.
    Yeowwww!

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    Message: 1094
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Jamies
    Date: 07/10/87  Time: 13:22:35

    The correct answer to the Question is ...............................

            1 and 3!

    He starts out in his Red pajamas with the buttons down the back and winds up
    in his birthday suit.

            For all those enquiring minds.......
                    That will be 35 cents, each.

            Shiverin' Sandy

    Message: 1095
    Author: $ Traci Sibel
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: sandy
    Date: 07/10/87  Time: 23:27:47

    the check is in the mail....
       (do Enquiring $tatus minds get a discount? Is this tax deductible? Is 35
    cents REALLY worth this  many questions? Enquiring minds want to know....)

    Message: 1096
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Enquiring minds
    Date: 07/11/87  Time: 17:00:15

    The 35 cents is the discount for the Enquiring $tatus minds ......
    Yes, the 35 cents is deductible ....... satisfying enquiring minds is for
    the benifit of society as a whole.

    Message: 1097
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Bulletin
    Subject: Enquiring minds
    Date: 07/11/87  Time: 17:13:59

                    ENQUIRING MINDS .....

            Rod Williams was caught conversing with an unidentified entity on
    the phone late last night. When questioned about the strange glow eminating
    from the phone and the Heavenly music heard in the background, Rod Williams
    declined to answer.
            Mr. Williams tried to hide the blush on his face and tried to
    control the guilt look but was unsucessfull.
            It appears that one of our resident Athiests is commuting with a
    rather Saintly character. On good authority, this Saintly character appears
    to be God.
            Rumors are spreading that Mr. Williams will be asked to leave the
    Athies movement. This shame that Mr. Williams has incured will be felt
    throughout the movement.
            Mr. Williams stands a good chance of being declared a Non-human and
    forced live in Arizona for the rest of his life or until Meekam is no longer
    governor.

                    ..... YOU WANTED TO KNOW!

    Message: 1098
    Author: $ Mark Adkins
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff's jammies
    Date: 07/12/87  Time: 00:43:49

    Are you sure he doesn't wear a Big Bird suit?

    Message: 1099
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 07/12/87  Time: 02:52:20

    And where does he wear his Verbatim headband?

    Message: 1100
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Headband
    Date: 07/12/87  Time: 12:22:13

            Who told you about Cliff's Verbatim headband????????

    Enquiring Minds will have to pay a bit more to find out the answer to that
    one!

    Message: 1101
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: last - headband
    Date: 07/12/87  Time: 23:50:40

    Where does he wear it?  On his head, of course.

    ...

    Message: 1102
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: TV/Movies
    Subject: Dean & Movies
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 00:29:40

    Dean said he and Traci were going to have to decide which G movie to see
    next. I suggested that they live a little and see a PG-13 movie, but he
    would hear none of it.

    Message: 1103
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/God
    Date: 07/13/87  Time: 23:22:10

    Oh, he was talking to himself again?

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