### Apollo BBS Archive - September 1, 1988

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    Message: 4099
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Oudin
    Date: 08/31/88  Time: 17:47:56

    How odd.  I have never heard of such an arrangement.  Of course, it makes
    sense -- if a landlord is having trouble renting a place, and someone wants
    to rent it but isn't making money and can't afford to pay what it's worth,
    he might work something out where the rent goes up if the tenant makes a
    profit, or where the rent is proportional to the profit.  A landlord in such
    a case is taking a risk, because the business might not be successful and he
    would then be renting a property perhaps for less than it costs to maintain.
    It is my understanding that Cliff isn't making much profit these days
    anyway, so the landlord would not be getting a cut.  Thus, it is
    unreasonable (and characteristically silly) for you to blast the landlord as
    a "bloodsucker."

    Message: 4100
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/31/88  Time: 22:00:17

    Of course, one could be in an arrangement where the landlord is charging
    close-to-market prices *plus* profits

    Message: 4101
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 00:57:49

    An arrangement such as that is actually quite common. It is called
    "percentage rent." Generally the rent is set at a fixed amount until the
    tenant's net (or even gross) income exceeds an amount specified in the
    lease. At that time, the rent either becomes a percentage of income, or
    is increased by a percentage of the amount of income over the specified
    figure.

    Message: 4103
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rents
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 08:48:11

    It is common practice for owners of small malls to collect high rents and a
    percentage of the profits. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4104
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Question?
    Subject: CLIFF
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 09:37:18

    So when is this Kiss-it-off GT?

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     1:        We basically live in an illiterate world.
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    Message: 4106
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 19:13:34

    Speek fer yerself.

    Message: 4107
    Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: James T.
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 20:15:53

    James,

       The percentage rent is quite common (as previously stated) but most small
    (and even some large) retaliate with what's also know as 'two sets of
    books'.   What's shown the landlord (and IRS) is different than what's kept
    in the second set....the set that's show to prospective buyers.

       All your bigger malls practice percentage rent...Metro Center, Chris
    Town, etc....and many of the smaller ones.   Contrary to what Ann believes,
    it is a way that a business can get started at a lower rent (at a guaranteed
    rate) and only have to pay more as they do better.  This also increases the
    landlords interest in the total mall being successful and busy.

       And remember this....no-one makes a person move into one of these malls.
    It's their own choice.

    (LL)oyd Pulley
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    Message: 1919
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last Few
    Date: 08/31/88  Time: 22:21:26

    These totally sexist messages have got to stop! It's just as I suspected;
    you're only interested in us for our bodies, not our minds. Typical. Oh,
    excuse me, while I put something on. Perhaps these bikini briefs? Oh, yes.
    Now what were we talking about? Shakespeare?

     *=* Daryl "I Am Not A Bimbo" Westfall *=*

    Message: 1920
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: Bimbo
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 07:07:43

    Didn't Disney just re-release the movie by that name?  And wasn't it about a
    little elephant whose mother was killed by hunters?

    Message: 1921
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Daryl/bodies
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 09:00:54

    On the serious side - for men to have great bodies is the least of what a
    woman wants - maybe for one night, but it isn't important for a life time!
    We want men that can talk to us! Consideration and respect would be nice
    too. Our society separates the sexes from birth - so therefore, men and
    woman live in their own little worlds until they get married and then they
    spend years going through life without understanding each other! That's sad
    because there is very little difference between us physically. We are all
    just human beings with basically the same wants and needs! But I think the
    most important thing is to be able to converse. Men have a tendency to hold
    things in - to walk away from problems at home. That causes major
    difficulties and usually divorces. Woman on the other hand sometimes want to
    'talk things to death' when it just not that important.  Sigh - I guess Rod
    is right - we'll never grow up! =*--Annie the ASSp--*=

    Message: 1922
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Men & Women
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 14:29:24

    Somewhere I read that one of the ancient philosophers theorized that men and
    women were tro alien species inhabiting the same planet.

    Sometimes it looks that way when we all have such different expectations
    about the other sex.

    However, as the ol' Frenchman said, "Viva le difference!"

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    Subject:Men/Women

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     1:        Love is fine but friendship is better.  My wife and I are friends
     2:and that takes one over the rough spots.
     3:end

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    Message: 1924
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Gary Jones
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 17:23:11

    I think it goes "Vive la difference"
     - but my French is a bit rusty (but soon to improve)

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    Subject:Rev. Beau

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     1:        "Your French is soon to improve."  What, you got a date with Ann?
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    Message: 10
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chew the Fat
    Subject: Hey man!
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 09:58:38

    Ralph Blehm came over yesterday (a cute old fart!) and told me because I
    have dyed my hair back brown - that I look 10 years younger! Now that surely
    disqualifies me from being on this 'Old Farts Board'! However - I think I
    will stick around and learn something. I've always respected my elders!
    =*--Prunes Annie--*=

    Message: 11
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Eat Prunes!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 13:39:08

            There should be a new sig. called the Liars Sig. and Ralph will be
    the first user ..........

            Sorry, Ann

            Come to think of it, you will have to look more than 10 years
    younger to disqualify yourself ........

            Sorry again, Ann

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     1:        I'd like to meet that guy.  From his messages he is really 'spaced
     2:out' and that puts him in my league.
     3:        What a dumb ass SIG this is.  How sad.
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    Message: 53979
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: The SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: CLOSED!
    Date: 08/31/88  Time: 18:05:43

            That sums it up, I am out of business...
    Just sad that ONLY Kim P. stopped by to say bye..  A slow day to say the
    least.
            Thanks James Hawley for the Lunch yesterday...

    7 years gone.. and I wonder if it was worth it.  Too late now, but for those
    who helped...you have my thanks.
            ALL POSTED SALES by me on this BBS are now VOId.

    Bye bye boys and girls
                    Clifford Winters

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    Message: 53980
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/31/88  Time: 18:16:14

    I would have stopped by, but it would have been too depressing.
    I assume this means that the re SIG is history too, eh?

    Message: 53981
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: store
    Date: 08/31/88  Time: 21:58:58

    I would have stopped by this afternoon, but I had to go waterskiing.

    Message: 53982
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Toad Reese
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 05:21:37

     Why do I get the singular honor of being on your list twice? Afraid you're
    going to be too lonesome down there without me?
    Anyway, you should have gotten some experience putting my name up there the
    second time, if you want to define experience as that quality that allows
    you to recognize the same mistake when you've made it again.
    Oh, but I forgot. You don't recognize error when you're that close to it, do
    ya?
    Keep smiling!

    Message: 53983
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 05:24:57

     After our phone conversation yesterday, I really had intended to come up
    there, but since I have been blessed with two grandchildren for the school
    year, things have been even more hectic than they already were, and we
    simply couldn't make it.
    If you would still like to sell the micro, maybe we could get together at
    some time convenient to both if us and have a look at it? Best of luck.

    Message: 53984
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Apollo
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 07:05:01

    OK, Cliff.  Today is the first day of the rest of your life.  So where do we
    go from here?

    Subject:  The hereafter.
          So what makes everyone so certain that there is a "hell" to consign
    everyone to?

    Message: 53985
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/#53976
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 08:43:29

    Now there's a new job you could go to with you qualifications! We could have
    a GT and you could put on a show for us as practice! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53986
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Todd/your list
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 08:44:58

    Sorry Todd - I don't believe I'm going anywhere. This old world is hell and
    I've been there along time already. Me and all my friends! Ta ta =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53988
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 10:50:45

    I wanted to stop by and pick up a surge protector real cheap, but didn't
    quite make it.  Oh well.

    Message: 53989
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gary/Hell
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 17:04:45

            There's gotta be a hell, I look forward to it.  Whee, what fun.

    Message: 53990
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/store
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 17:05:34

            I have been working my fanny off and I can't begin to keep up with
    my work load.

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    21:Ron Paul, James Garner, Leona Fulani, Betty Midler, whoever.
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     1:creage, the broadcasting stations, the liquor industry, the drug
    21:lords.
    22:        Yup.
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     1:os are really about, our reins
    17:will be loosened for life.
    18:        * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
    19:end

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    Message: 53990
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/store
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 17:05:34

            I have been working my fanny off and I can't begin to keep up with
    my work load.

    Message: 53991
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Hear, hear!
    Date: 09/02/88  Time: 00:00:17

          The political system in this country is stupid, it is all wrong
    and it directly reflects upon all of our other systems, many of which
    are also stupid and do not work.  Such is the current level of the
    intelligence of mankind.  Oh well!
          No matter how you look at it we have a two (2) party system, all
    the others just spin their wheels and are seldom reported on.  We have
    a race between two different power structures although I would suspect
    that the same power structure has backed both primary candidates just
    to 'copper' their bet.
          Billions of dollars have been spent on these needless, phony
    contests with all of the money going to the rich, nothing going
    towards helping with our needed social problems.  This is ridiculously
    wasteful.  And then, all we get a choice of is two (2) clowns, each
    representing the true ruling class of this world.
          There are perhaps two methods I can think of from the top of my
    head that would beat our current system.  One, have a truly popular
    vote of the people.  When our chosen election time comes around, have
    the voters of this nation write in their favorite candidate, taking
    their choices from the 'heroes' of this country.  Many may vote for
    Robert Redford, some of our space people, Timothy Leary, Geroge Bush,
    Ron Paul, James Garner, Leona Fulani, Betty Midler, whoever.
    (cont.)

    Message: 53992
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Politics
    Subject: More BS
    Date: 09/02/88  Time: 00:01:15

          The votes could be tabulated over several months and the winner
    could accept or reject and in the event of the latter, the choice would
    then go to the person with the next higher number of votes.  No
    candidate would actively campaign as they now do, but they could let it
    be known they were interested.
          I still do not prefer this method because it sticks one person
    at the so called top.  Of course, the V.P., the cabinet and other
    political positions would be chosen from the write-ins who received
    the most votes, in their respective order of popularity.
          The system I most prefer is basically the same as above except
    to have a tribunal of this nations most popular men and women.  I'd
    say that twelve people would be a nice, tidy sum.  During business
    hours, they would sit at a large round table, on camera, and debate
    and decide, by vote, the different issues of the day.  This is just as
    we do it on Apollo and it works.  This again would be for the position
    of presidents and the congress, senate and others would be taken from
    the vote as stated above.
          But NO!  We must have this dumb little system that is
    all-wrapped-up by the rich and powerful people.  Those who own the
    vast acreage, the broadcasting stations, the liquor industry, the drug
    lords.
            Yup.

    Message: 53993
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Politics
    Subject: last BS
    Date: 09/02/88  Time: 00:02:04

          Of course, I am just whistling Dixie because a fair and
    equitable system would not be countenanced by those who control the
    working class.  We are a spoon fed people who are led to believe what
    we are supposed to believe.  School never ended.
          But who can blame those who have the real wealth?  If you were
    among them would you want to share it with people who are also greedy
    wolves waiting their chance to rule?  I think not.
          Intelligence is the key here.  Someday, after a lot more
    evolution of our species, we may just find it and when we do be
    prepared for a very beautiful world.  Until then just grin and bear
    it.
          When the religious bindings are removed from our minds then will
    mans thoughts soar toward the stars.  This is not the only problem
    though, the religions are supported by the rulers, were promulgated by
    them in order to keep us where they think we belong.  Once the ruling
    class discovers what life and the cosmos are really about, our reins
    will be loosened for life.
            * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod

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    Message: 177
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Rod/last
    Date: 09/01/88  Time: 09:55:00

    Naw! I ain't flipped out. Was just telling you what they told me in sunday
    school! =*--The New Way Below Normal Preacher--*=

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     1:        Yeah, I went there too.  Call it by its proper name, okay?.
     2:Technically it is 'brainwashing school'.
     3:        Considering the illiteracy lever of human life on planet earth, our
     4:inability to make peace or a good society, do you think that people have
     5:figured anything out in the rhealm of the supernatural, i.e. gods or
     6:godesses, life after death, religion?  I know for a fact that we haven't, we
     7:humans are TOTALLY ignorant on the subject.  Everything is just a guess and
     8:some people take their brainwashing as fact.  Just another case in point for
     9:my determination that the human animal is dangerously dumb.
    10:        The best thing that could happen to this planet is to have an A bomb
    11:party, in other words, detonate all nuclear weapons where they sit.
    12:        I still can't figure out one thing that humans have contributed to
    13:this world.
    14:        * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
    15:end

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    Message: 1553
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Tomorrow
    Date: 08/30/88  Time: 23:16:54

    I get to help a friend try to fight the INS.  The main goal tomorrow is to
    get a work permit.  All of the paperwork for a proper visa doesn't yet exist
    (missing a photograph of her American husband, who is currently in the
    hospital in Santa Monica -- where he is unlikely to get a passport-style
    picture)

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