### Apollo BBS Archive - April 20, 1989

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    April 18,1989  The Phoenix City Council agreed to raise taxes on hotel-motel
    stays and rental cars to pay for the $70 million Suns arena.....

    [A] This Is a good deal,  I approve.
    [B] I disapprove!
    [C] I don't care one way or another.

    Poll results to date:
    [A] 0    [B] 10   [C] 3

    Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 03:06:55

    You mean we can't bring hamburgers and chocolate milk? I will bring the
    condoms.

    Did you hear that Abby's death was an apparent suicide?
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:        Abby's death may have been suicide but the coroner found some dried
     2:blood in his nostrol.  I think it was a CIA hit.
     3:
     4:        I don't and won't use condoms.  They make IT feel like your standing
     5:still.  -Rod

    Mail from James Taranto
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 17:56:07

    Huh?

    Buchanan was not a speechwriter for Nixon.
    [A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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     1:        According to Hunter S. Thompson, in his The Great Shark Hunt,
     2:Buchanan was a speech writer for Nixon during his administration.  What do
     3:you think?  Is there another Pat Buchanan?   -Rod

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    Message: 132
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 06:04:14

    It is time for a get together!!!!!!!!!!

    Message: 133
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ralph
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 18:48:22

            Okay, I agree but don't you bring a gun.

    Message: 134
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 19:35:41

      We don't trust anyone who doesn't carry a gun.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 135
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean
    Date: 04/21/89  Time: 00:19:04

            Yeah, but Ralph is the one who is for SHOOTING THEM ALL.

    The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 3023
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Rod/last
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 06:57:45

    Ah Ha! I knew it was him all along. Thanks Roddy. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 3024
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Who-dun-it
    Subject: Ann/last
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 18:49:17

            I cannot tell a lie, I lied about seeing a meter at James' place.
    So, sue me.

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    Message: 58257
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: The Vote
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 05:44:31

    Looks to me like the city "fathers" have pulled another one over on us
    already overburdened taxpayers.
     In the first place, construction overruns are a fact of life, and the
    proposed $70 million dollars will probably be closer to $120 mil by the time
    the arena and parking facilities actually get completed.
     Secondly, by raising hotel/motel and auto rental taxes, (so-called
    "tourist" taxes), all the city is doing is making it much easier for other
    valley cities and other vacation spots, such as Florida, to entice the
    tourist dollar away from Phoenix, thereby decreasing the revenues for both
    the torist industries and the city. When their inflated figures as to income
    realized from these taxes fall short, and the city cannot fulfill their
    commitment, guess where they're going to look for more money?
    I don't think you need two guesses.

    Message: 58258
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Bob/Paul
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 06:51:49

    I will have to get out the Bible and look up those verses re: Paul and
    women. Yes, women were one level below the family cow in importance in those
    days, but with all these 'revelations' from God to all of those 'called' -
    you'd think they'd strighten up that mistake. Women finally did it 2,000
    years later and without any revelations too! Ha. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58259
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob on tourists
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 06:53:24

    Personally, I don't want the Snowbirds or their money. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58260
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob on Rev. Moon
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 06:56:46

    Remember - most of the people didn't believe Jesus was the Christ either!
                             -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58261
    Author: Greg Chambers
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Rod Williams
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 16:19:03

    So what if the Government lies to sway opinion?
    Its just as bad as telling a lie to a friend or enemy.
    There's little if anything you can do by getting mad at them.
    People will and have always lied to each other. What
    makes a government so different?

    just my $0.02 worth.

    Message: 58262
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Paul/Bible
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 18:50:23

            The bibical Paul was against men with long hair.  I think he was a
    fag.  Rod

    Message: 58263
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Greg
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 18:52:28

            Nothing is out of the ordinary when government or others lie to me.
    It is just that once caught, I have trouble believing them in the future.
    Call it a bad habit if you will but that is the way I am.  How about you?
                                    Rod

    Bulletin Board command:$C Message: 58264
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Taxes
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 19:45:49

      I like the Suns and I think its nice for them to get a new arena; however,
    I can not see any reason why the city should be allowed to reach into the
    pockets of hotel and car rental companies to pay for it. If this arena is a
    viable investment then it could have been paid for privately. If it is not a
    viable investment then it should not be built at all.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 58265
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Jesus
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 22:00:37

    Re:  "Remember - most of the people didn't believe Jesus was the Christ
    either!"

    The ones who saw him come back from the dead had to believe he was more than
    just a man.  Most of the people in the world at that time had not even heard
    of the Jews.  However, truth is truth.  I doesn't matter how many people
    believe it is truth, or not truth.  Truth is still truth.  Voting doesn't
    change it.  Zeal doesn't change it.  Wishing doesn't change it.
    Hmmmmm.  I lost my train of thought.

    Excuse me!  Does anyone here know the truth??

    Message: 58266
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Hair
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 22:02:52

    Re:  "The bibical Paul was against men with long hair.  I think he was a
    fag."

    You got it backwards Rod.  The guys with the long hair are the fags.  You
    know how the song goes, "Long hair hippy pinko fag", something like that.

    Message: 58267
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/Truth
    Date: 04/21/89  Time: 00:34:58

            Re: Does anyone know the truth.

    I don't think so.  The only truth I know is that the Universe will continue
    forever.  It can't end.

            This planet we are visiting will someday not be in existence as we
    now know it.  The physical matter it is composed of will have changed beyond
    recognition as will our physical matter.  But the electrial energy we are
    composed of will still be around.  What I mean to say is that our physical
    matter will always be around too, it is just that change will make it
    unrecognizable as we now know it.  This matter will never age, it will just
    change continually.  But our electrical energy is a different story in a
    sense.  It is the operating system for our mass.  Our mass can collapse but
    not so with our operating system.  (This post should be under the Rod
    Willliams name).  I think it, our electrical operating system will merge
    with the whole.  We, at this time are manifested into some very strange life
    forms.  We are ingnorant by nature, ugly in appearence, and somewhere in the
    dark ages of our journey here.  Power, for some, seems to be the nature of
    the game and it is unfortunate that some in power put their will on the
    masses when it comes to personal freedoms.  Their excuse usually is that
    thier religion dictates such and such an action.  Strange, but it is usually
    the bible thumpers who would legislate the morality of the masses.  The
    agnostic and atheists and a few others do not seem to have this problem.
    Their philosophy is live and let live.  The old nose freedom bit.  Rod

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    Message: 275
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 03:11:09

    Suicide is for wimps.

    Message: 276
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/#272
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 07:02:25

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 277
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: I'm glad I'm drunk
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 17:58:23

    I'm glad I'm drunk.

    Message: 278
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Drunk
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 18:54:35

            You'll go to LLEH for getting snockered.  Paul tells us VERY clearly
    that idolators, whoremongers, assholes, faggots, men with long hair, and
    horny woman will not EVER SEE the kingdom of GOD.  So, straighten the fuck
    up.   - Rod

    Message: 279
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Nick/Suicide
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 18:57:06

            I disagree.  I think that when the body starts going then one should
    save themselves a whole hell of a lot of pain.  But when the time comes then
    do it with a purpose.  I haven't chosen mine as of yet but I have a few good
    ideas.  AND I do not want a FUNeral.  I don't want enough of me to remain
    that would need planted.  Although there are some suicides that could be
    considered wimpy, a person who is on their last legs would be much tastier
    as Soylent Green.    -Rod

    Message: 280
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 04/20/89  Time: 19:39:37

      I don't see why you are bitching about the state of the world and the
    burden of living flesh all the time. I think we all have a great future in
    fossil fuels.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 281
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean/Fossil fuels
    Date: 04/21/89  Time: 00:42:18

            DeJaVu........Fossil Fuels.......just as I read those exact words,
    over my headphones came: I think we all have a great future in fossil fuels.
            Sorry I missed you but Jasmine could have helped you.

            Someday I hope to be a fossil fuel.  If I am a good little boy
    perhaps my mother will let me.  Did you know that there is a BIG FAT BLONDE
    in each of us?  Yep!  It's true.

            STRANGE FACT DEPT.  If sex didn't exist then neither would I?  Mary,
    Mary, Magdalene How About A Date.  The wages of sin.

            I wonder why Paul didn't respond to me calling him a murderer?  Was
    my message that illogical and stupid?  It may have been a ridiculous message
    but it was the truth, if any of us knows what that is.
                                    Thanks,
                                            Rod

    Message: 282
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Drug Debate
    Date: 04/21/89  Time: 00:52:31

            The Great Apollo Drug Debate was interesting.  I read it over many
    times.  I studied it and noticed many items of interest.

            The most logical and carefully thought out message award goes to two
    people, Dean and JT.  The only point JT missed in that issue was when he was
    attacting Petrisko.  Peter mentioned in one of his posts the thought of a
    bible being against the law and JT jumped on him claiming that Peter was
    being ridiculous.  JT points out that the bible and drugs have nothing in
    common.  But Peter's point and a good point I might add was that Christians
    would then understand the ignorance involved if their religious book was
    against the law.  Freethinkers understand what I am saying when the LAW goes
    to take your right of owning a gun or smoking pot away.  More on this later
    when I get my thoughts more organized.
            There were many great posts by everyone but I liked the Albert Sykes
    Spirit Travel post very much, not that it had anything to do with the
    debate.  It was a refreshing pause.  Who ever wrote it has my thanks.

            I have given copies the the debate to many people.   I even gave it
    to a friend of mine in the court system and I am planning to mail copies to
    some selected people.  Ann made some damn good, common sense remarks and
    fewer spelling mistakes but in a few of the messages there were some syntax
    problems (just as in mine) and I took the liberty to correct a few.
                                    Rod