### Apollo BBS Archive - June 5, 1991

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    Message: 7456
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 09:06:52

    Ants get that stuff.  Ants don't really bother me.

    Message: 7457
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Mike C.
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 17:43:32

    So how much would it cost me to get one of the Roach Grenades?

     -Chris

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    Message: 75549
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Old Annie
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 05:46:45

    Hit me with your cane? You would have to catch me first, and this clown can
    still outrun any decrepit old lady!
     Nya, nya, nya nya nya!

    Message: 75550
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie/names
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 05:48:19

     Actually, that wasn't an insult. All I was doing was pointing out what you
    demonstrably made so obvious.
    Ahem...........

    Message: 75551
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Ann/Presbyterians
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 05:58:01

     Actually, I have been watching the situation in the Presbyterian church
    with some interest, since it is fast becoming a fine example of everything
    that is wrong in the world today. I'm not sure about the size of that
    church, but, judging by the one I was in last night at a meeting of the New
    Song Center for bereaved children, it must be one of the richest.
     Anyway, the report that you read was that of a committee that prepared the
    report for discussion at the general assembly of the church. That meets, I
    think, this week. According to some very influential Presbyterians who were
    interviewed, the report doesn't stand a chance of being adopted. If it
    should be adopted, it would indicate that the church has completely
    abandoned any principles related to Scripture, and should no longer even be
    considered a church. (That last statement is my opinion.) Homosexual
    ministers? Premarital and extramarital sex? "Free" love (that usually proves
    to be the most expensive kind)? I somehow think that the vast majority of
    Presbyterians will either throw that one out completely, or leave the church
    for holier ground.

    Message: 75552
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: More of Daryl
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 06:05:35

    Great! Welcome back! (I can use somebody on my side!)

    Message: 75553
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Ann on Presbs
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 07:26:47

    I heard about that at least a month ago.  I guess the news is finally
    hitting the papers.

    Message: 75554
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl on Luther
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 07:45:07

    I would agree with that. If one cannot find happiness and joy in the smaller
    things of life - day to day, maybe even minute to minute activity, then
    there will be no happiness. Waiting for happiness is a losing game.
                         *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75555
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl on sex
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 07:56:51

    Re: your .... "Dogs can do it. They don't care who they do it with or where.
    And they do not care about the one they did it with after they've done it"!

    Hmmmmm.... sounds familier. Sounds like some men I've heard about!

    Anyway, your post (#75525) was very nice and makes one wish things were like
    that regarding the youths restraining from sex. BUT they are NOT like that
    and your words will not change that fact. Our sexual urges during that
    period of our lives is almost painful more than pleasurable. Talk about long
    suffering! It's like telling someone that needs to urinate badly to wait!
                            *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75556
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Daryl - huh?
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 08:02:36

    #75526 .... are you asking me why the church shouldn't condemn premarital
    sex, homsexuality and masturbation????? I'll answer that anyway ...

    I think they shouldn't simply because people do those things - did those
    things from the beginning of time and will continue to do them. No church,
    no religion, no god and no laws have made anyone stop! In other words ...
    butting one's head against a brick wall!! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75557
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Daryl #75527
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 08:04:28

    Huh? Are you saying it's OK to do these things because Jesus died on the
    cross for all your sins,  so you are forgiven?? *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75558
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Pauley on age
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 08:12:54

    Ok then, forget the cane - I'll run over you in my Corvette! Nya Nya Nya.
                           *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75559
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Daryl / Easter
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 08:21:25

    Nor did the pagans who worshipped Ishtar. Try again.

    Message: 75560
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Fun With Daryl
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 08:32:27

    > Ann, you are missing the meat of my message by complaining
    > about one of the french fries.

    Whatever happened to that Dairy Queen GT Rod was trying to put together?

    > You make sex out to be the be-all/end-all to happiness.  Ann,
    > DOGS can have SEX.  They do not care who they do it with or
    > where.

    And I've never met an unhappy dog.

    > Amy Grant once said about her decision to remain a virgin until
    > her marriage to musician Gary Chapman: "I didn't have to
    >  compare his moans to anyone else's."

    Oh, sure.  Like she never heard a Barry White album.

    > ...just an orgasm.

    An oxymoron if I ever heard one.

    Message: 75561
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Stool Pigeon Roger
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 08:32:49

    > Teacher ! Pauley made an insulting remark in the main board.

    Isn't there a prohibition in the ules on tattling weenies?  Tread
    lightly, Roger.  8^O

    Message: 75562
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Grant
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 08:33:02

    > I nominate Mary Richards for the free $tatus.

    Noted.

    Message: 75564
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 09:13:23

    But I read women's sex drive peaked around age 30!  I got attacked on
    another board when I suggested that 30 year old women should have sex with
    18 year old boys/men to prevent conflicts caused by mismatched sex drives.
    The 18 year old boys would put less sexual pressure on teenage girls who
    often aren't ready for sex at that age (plus they'd be better lovers by the
    time the girls their age ARE interested), and the 30 year old women would
    put less pressure on the older men they usually have sex with who might not
    be as easily aroused 24 hours a day.  I KNOW the older men are going to jump
    all over my case about how virile they are, but I have it on very good
    authority that this can be a problem for the women!

    Message: 75565
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: On the Lighter Side
    Subject: Head, petered out?
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 10:34:23

    RE: "I have it on very good authority that this can be a problem for women!"

            Is there something you wish to tell us, about yourself?  Or, was
    that a confession?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    Message: 75567
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 12:42:26

    I'm only 25!  What makes you think I'm in my late 30s?

    Message: 75568
    Author: $ Roger Mann
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Teacher Bill
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 12:59:00

    No, there is not. Indeed, we are compelled by the law to tattle on others.

    Message: 75569
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Question?
    Subject: You
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 15:27:13

      So, have you moved to Tucson?
       See You Later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 75570
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 15:47:45

      "the doubters and the atheists camp,....that garbage pit of un-happy
    people."

       If we seemed happier would you find the pit more inviting? Maybe you just
    didn't dive in on one of the better days or land near the happier garbage.
    I do wonder about your choice of criteria for judging such an issue. If you
    visited a hobo camp and found them all happily drunk on cheap wine would you
    conclude that their's was the best lifestyle? I should think that there are
    more telling issues, like maybe the facts behind religious doctrine and the
    likelihood of there actually being a God, which would be of greater
    influence.
       Maybe believers do act happy a lot. If this happiness comes from the
    belief that they are in with the supreme being then let them be happy. If
    they are wrong, and have devoted their lives to the study of bogus dogmas
    and crippling taboos against living whole, reasoned lives then their
    "happiness" was the ignorant bliss of the dupe.
       The happiest people I know are not bible thumpers, they are people who
    live for the world that is known to exist and do it as well as they are
    able.
      See You Later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 75571
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 17:01:55

    Re:  like it or not, you will be seeing more of me from now on.

    I like it!

    Message: 75572
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 17:09:51

    Re:  do you believe that Paul was really being totally rude to Ann in
    that one message of his?

    Probably no more rude than anyone else here on Apollo at one time or
    another.  Paul just doesn't veil his words with honey.  He's very
    straight forward in what he says.  Sometimes painfully so.

    Message: 75573
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Peaches
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 17:14:26

    Re:  #75526 .... are you asking me why the church shouldn't condemn
    premarital sex, homsexuality and masturbation????? I'll answer that anyway
    ... I think they shouldn't simply because people do those things - did those
    things from the beginning of time and will continue to do them. No church,
    no religion, no god and no laws have made anyone stop! In other words ...
    butting one's head against a brick wall!!

    One could also say the same thing about murder, rape, and robbery.  But that
    doesn't make it right.

    Message: 75574
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Sorry, (Sniff)
    Subject: What happened to the
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 17:55:11

    Sex category?

    Anyway, Michael:  What makes you think that women in their 30's would want
    some fumbling, young idiot that prematurely ejaculates?  I had heard that
    women's sex drives peak at 30 because they are more intense, not because
    they are more aroused.  I could be wrong on that one, though.  I am sure
    that the 30 years old may just be more available for sex.  The kids are
    older, the job more secure, that sort of thing.  But, again, that is
    assuming my assuption is correct.

    Message: 75575
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: James #75567
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 18:11:31

    Only 25?  Sure.  Denial is the first phase.  (snicker)

    Message: 75576
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Oily Residue
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 18:22:56

    Money for environment

      "Environmental charges have been the favorite in the last
    two years.  I expect we will see more of them and a lot
    more settlements of longstanding legal disputes."
      Many oil companies are about to begin reviews to set 1991
    budgets for their operations.
      William L. Randol, an analyst at First Boston Corp., said
    some companies might announce higher spending commitments to
    search for new oil reserves.
      Staying tuned to Congress has taken on a fresh urgency for
    oil executives, who see in the Persian Gulf crisis an
    opportunity to reclaim some of the political ground lost
    after the disastrous Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska 18
    months ago.
      The blockade against Iraqi and Kuwaiti crude has
    underscored dramatically the decline of the nation's oil
    production, which has fallen to about 7 million barrels a
    day.
      The United States, which consumes about 16 million barrels
    a day, has become more dependent on low-cost crude imports.
    Daily crude imports were nearly 8 million barrels a day
    before the Iraqi invasion on Aug. 2.
      The oil industry wants Congress to back new tax credits

    Message: 75577
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Oily Residue
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 18:25:33

    that would reduce drilling expenses in the United States.
    It also wants to explore and produce oil in the Arctic
    National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska and the coastal waters
    near southern California, the Carolinas and Florida, where
    oil production is not permitted now.

    (continued)

    Message: 75579
    Author: $ Steve MacGregor
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 20:32:11

      Please, Ann, look up "long-suffering" in the dictionary and compare it to
    "patience".  Don't bother to look up "suffering".
      On a totally unrelated topic, do you believe in women's sufferage?
      Yet another.  The (King James) Bible relates an occurance where a bunch of
    children gathered around Jesus (we thing of them crowding around, trying to
    sit on his lap, etc.).  The disciples began to shoo them away, but Jesus got
    on their case and told them, "Suffer the little children to come unto me..."
    Here's the question, now:  Did Jesus want the children to suffer?

          =========  Pascal  #(O,o)#  Ouch!  MacProgrammer  =========

    Message: 75580
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Ann / 75556
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 21:11:43

         People have been murdering since the beginning of time as well (Gen.
    4:8).  But certainly no one is going to suggest that the church condone this
    atrocity.
         To suggest that the church embrace those things in which God
    specifically calls 'abomination' is to make a mockery of God. And God has
    told us in no uncertain terms that He will not be mocked.
         That the church refuses to acknowledge these things as acceptable by no
    means will keep anyone from doing those things if they so desire to do them.
         Read Romans 1:18-32.

    Message: 75581
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Ann / 75527
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 21:21:02

        No, you are missing an important sentence in that message.  "By their
    fruits they shall be known."  If one serves God, that love for Him will be
    shown by their desire to act in accordance to His will.  Forgiveness is not
    a license to sin.
         Read Romans chapters 7 and 8.
         If one rejects Christ, it matters not whether or not they lead right or
    moral lives.  They have rejected the Son of the Most High God, the one who
    came to earth to do for them what they could not do for themselves.  They
    have turned away from the one Way that leads to eternal life.  It matters
    not whether or not whether they lead pious or depraved lives.  Their future
    is eternal seperation from God at the judgment.

    Message: 75582
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul on words
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 21:45:19

    Because a translating dictionary says that one word in Language G can be
    translated as two different words in Language E *does not* mean that the two
    words in Language E are synonymous.  It could mean that the word in Language
    G can mean *either* of those two words. In fact, it often means that the
    word has shades of both of the translated words.

    As to the word in question, Strong's has three related entries in the Greek
    Dictionary of the New Testament -- entries 3114-3116.  Apparently from root
    words meaning "long" and "passion".

    As to the definition of patient in the English language, as the FIFTH sense
    my dictionary says "able or willing to bear" == and the SIXTH entry as
    "susceptible, admitting (of one interpretation)". Note that the latest
    senses in my dictionary are the most recently to have been applied to the
    English word.

    For the definition of long-suffering, the dictionary says "long and patient
    endurance of offense".  Not just PATIENT.  There are shades of meaning here,
    these are not synonyms (just as the first four books of the New Testament
    are not synoptic).

    Message: 75583
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Religion
    Subject: 75528/Daryl
    Date: 06/05/91  Time: 21:48:12

    You'd said that there was only one use for the THANG.

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