### Apollo BBS Archive - May 19, 1989

    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 5503
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: For real?
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 12:21:54

            Do you guys really want to put together a nice GT, or is this
    Bull$#!+ing around?  We sure could use one if we could get the word out and
    around.  Maybe at the end of May?  Will Burkhart and Lippard be back in town
    by then?  We could also open it up to include other BBS SYSTEMS around town.

    At a park?  Maybe a Pizza place central to Phoenix area?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 5504
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 14:21:30

    I would love one. But I am leaving to go to my Condo in Flag on the 26th. I
    Shall return on the 2nd of June then lets go.

    Message: 5505
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 17:02:22

            If I say that I am coming then about half the people won't show up.
    The second of June is when the infamous Grand Prick will be run in downtown
    Phoenix.  I'm game.

    Creative Corner Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2256
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Suggestion to Dean
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 07:09:21

    Why don't you end it? I don't think there's going to be anymore entries at
    this late date, do you? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 2257
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann/2253
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 08:40:52

    Much of my writing does come off sounding too personal. If it is, there's
    nothing to worry about.

    Message: 2258
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ralph/alone
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 09:52:23

            I will be home alone when HELL freezes over.

    Message: 2259
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Toady
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 09:53:17

            Us womem have our ways .........

    Message: 2260
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 10:23:03

            I have a headache too. Life gave it to me and only Mother Nature can
    take it away. I never dream with a headache. The pain keeps me in Never,
    Never land of dark journeys to nowhere; knowing, seeing, feeling nothing.
    Slowly wading through the night with a sense of deep solitude is all there
    is to my existence at night with a headache. Life is too short and Love too
    scarce to cause me to dwell on the negatives of my encounters with my
    relatives and friends. Good things can come from ones memories and good
    things shall come to those who so desire. So, where are these good memories
    tonight? My greatest enemy has come to visit tonight. He is hear to
    ruthlessly taunt me, to savagely tear at my soul. Tonight, I do so wish for
    a headache. I want the sacred feeling of lonely nonexistance, of eternally
    striving to greet the begining of the new day and never reaching that goal.
    I want that subtil turmoil. My desire grows as my fear for my enemy grows.
    I toss and I turn and I sweat. My chest aches as anxiety grips my heart and
    slams it about. My eyes water, my spirit sighs ...............
    My enemy has come.

    Message: 2261
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Kontest
    Subject: End
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 11:46:33

      Ok folks, since I have been put in charge here is how it is. The contest
    is over and the judging can begin as soon as Cliff wants to put up the vote
    or whatever. Since the whole thing was my idea and now I am in charge of
    ending it as well, I withdraw my entry from the judging. I do intend to vote
    though.
      See You Later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 2262
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Kontest
    Subject: Dean...
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 12:16:15

            Please don't withdraw your entry....  But you are the boss.

            Dean, write up how you wish to have the ote worded... And you
    might mention that ALL $tatus users who ote, should have read ALL the
    stories first.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 2263
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 17:04:47

            DO NOT WITHDRAW YOUR ENTRY!!!!  THERE IS NO REASON TO....IT WILL BE
    A PUBLIC VOTE AND THERE IS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE.

    Message: 2264
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Headache
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 17:09:30

            When you get a headache, try this.  Make sure that both of
    your nostrils are clear and able to take in large amounts of oxygen.  If not
    then go to a water tap and with clean hands, fill your palms with the
    liquid.  Snort a little water to clear your nose.  Then, breath in oxygen,
    taking deep breaths.  If you must, go to where the best oxygen is located,
    such as a lushy grass area.  The greener the better.  Breath deep, expand
    your lungs.
            Another way is, if your head offends thee, then cut it off.  Cures
    headaches, too.

    Computer Hacker SIG Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 168
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Printers & Plotters
    Subject: Laser Printer
    Date: 05/18/89  Time: 22:54:13

            Fujitsu RX7100 HP, LaserJet Plus Emulation, 640KB Standard (up to
    4.6MB optional)
            SMALL footprint Height: 6.7 Width: 16 in., Depth: 15.7 in.
    Weight: with 2 hoppers 43.9 lbs.
            Processor: 68000, 8 MHz
            Paper sizes on automatic feed: letter & legal
            Manual feed slot: postcard size minimum (4.1 in. X 5.8 in.)

    Well, we have one, and the print quality is just great.  I can't wait too
    get some other FONT cards, but for the moment, Courier 10 Portrait &
    Landscape will have to do.

    Anyone wanting documents printed out in laser, we will do so at 10 cents per
    page (letter size).  You either can upload ASCII or WordStar files into the
    ibrary (they will be kept private) and we can print them out for you to
    pick up, or you can bring them over on disk if you have IBM compatible disks
    in either 1.2 meg 5 1/4, 360K 5 1/4 or 720K 3 1/2 disks.

    Note:  I forgot to mention we can do files created in First Choice.

    Anyone wanting to see a Laser Printer Demo, give me a call. 843-3346

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 169
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Bit Bucket Talk
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 17:11:10

    I've seen a sample and it was great.  Perfecto!

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 58780
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Apollo topic
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 00:28:38

    Nothing like getting our SYSOP to attempt to SPURN democracy by giving us a
    topic to speak about.

    Let your voice be heard!  Talk about *anything else*.

    Message: 58781
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Esperanto dinner
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 00:34:12

    Ni kunvenos je la 6a, Dimancxon, la 21a de Majo.  Ni estos cxe "First Wok"
    restoracio cxe University kaj Hardy (sud-orienta angulo) en Tempe.

    Ankau' ni kunvenos marde je la 7:30ptm cxe la "MU" cxe ASU por 'klasoj',
    kiuj eble estos nur pli ol konversacio.

    (We will be meeting for dinner at 6pm this Sunday, May 21st, at the "First
    Wok" restaurant in Tempe. It is at University and Hardy, SE corner.

    Also we will be meeting on Tuesdays during the summer at 7:30pm in the MU at
    ASU (Room 213) for 'classes'.  The makeup of these classes will depend upon
    the students who show up - could be beginning classes or conversation (in
    Esperanto, of course!) or whatever. Feel free to show up this Tuesday (the
    23rd) to check us out.

    Message: 58782
    Author: Mark Swanson
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: rape
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 02:03:16

    That is poor reasoning.  A women who dresses suggestively may
    indeed be interested in sex; but not with every guy in existence.
    She may dress that way in the hope of attracting a "Mr. Right".  Obviously,
    she wants to maximize her sex appeal for a limited audience.  A man who buys
    a Trans-Am may want to impress people, but not potential car thieves.  Get
    it?
    Furthermore, a woman (or a man, for that matter), may simply enjoy the sense
    of desireability and attractiveness that flirting or revealing clothes may
    bring (in the form of amorous attention).  There is nothing wrong with that,
    and it can hardly be a causal link to rape.
    Rape is a crime of violence, not of passion.  There are just too many easy
    women out there for this not to be true.  Sex can behad far more easily than
    drugs (and that's saying a lot).  Most often, age and/or appearance are
    immaterial to the rapist.  That is because violence against women is his
    goal, not sexual gratification.  Sex becomes the tool, the means and not the
    end.

    Message: 58783
    Author: Mark Swanson
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cognitive dissonance
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 02:22:48

    Isn't it amazing?  People all too often must convince themselves that the
    unobtainable is not at all what they wanted anyway; if they didn't, it would
    mean existing in a state where one's desires conflicted with one's
    attributes or whatever other entity the unobtainable happens to be.  For
    people who tend toward all or nothing, dichotomous attitudes (like Rod
    Williams), this inconsistency is intolerable.
    If I'm big and strong, but dumb, I tend to exagerrate the importance of
    physical prowess, and denigrate those "wimps" who seem more intelligent.  If
    I'm intelligent, but feeble, I do just the opposite.  By ignoring all the
    exceptions to such hopelessly simple-minded classifications, I have created
    a fantasy world where my unfulfilled desires actually become advantageous.

    Furthermore, many people seem to suffer from what I call "cosmic balance"
    syndrome.  The idea that someone else could actually enjoy "everything"
    (i.e. whatever they consider to be the good things in life...money,
    prestige, fame, looks, intelligence, etc.) gives them troubled feelings of
    dissatisfaction and envy.  In order to reconcile their inconsistent
    attitudes with reality, they decide that whenever someone has some
    particular advantage, they must have some disadvantage to balance things
    out, and vice-versa.   The model can't be intelligent, for that would be
    too unfair.  The blind man must have exceptional hearing, because if he
    didn't have some sort of compensation, that too would be too unfair.

    Message: 58784
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carrow's
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 03:54:14

    I see they've jumped on the remodeling bandwagon same as Bob's and Dunkin'
    Donuts have. I suspect that they see profits either becoming flat or falling
    and think that giving the place a fresh new look is the answer. What's
    strange to me is that (particularly in the case of Bob's Big Boy) on one
    hand you have a parent company dumping a classic (and nostalgic) coffee shop
    design for something more "modern," yet you have others (like Ed Debevic's)
    cashing in on America's appetite for nostalgia.

    Message: 58785
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/ nudie contest
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 05:27:39

     I might go for that, if we can either have life-size pictures of the Miss
    America contestants in their bathing suits, or you and Sandy judging in
    something very seductive. (To maintain our "interest" of cocourse.)

    Message: 58786
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Adam & Eve
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 05:29:24

    Of course they didn't have navels, since, having been created in other than
    the ususal fashion, they had no need for umbilical cords. Silly
    question!(smile)

    Message: 58787
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff/Subject
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 05:31:08

    Don't talk about me. I'll be gone for the next three weeks, and my house
    sitter doesn't use the computer.

    Message: 58788
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Eateries
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 05:35:37

     Anyplace with a better than average salad bar. Sizzler or Bonanza come to
    mind.
     Shangri-La at 28th Dr. & Cactus for Chinese (Szechuan, Hunan, Mandarin).
    Believe it or not, Long John Silver's for seafood.
    When we can't make up our minds what we want, Luby's is a pretty fair bet
    for variety, although the decor and steam table food leave something to be
    desired.
    Prime rib - Mother Tucker's Food Experience on Lincoln Dr.

    Message: 58789
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ed Debevic's
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 05:39:32

     We were there one time, and loved it. Definitely plan on going back. A real
    fun evening.

    Message: 58790
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Restaurant
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 07:07:52

    Ed Debevic's is not only an experience, it has excellent food! However, do
    not go with the idea in mind for a quiet, intimate evening! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 58792
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Remodeling
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 12:44:34

    Denney's also remodeled most of their outlets.  I consider most of the
    coffee shops food pretty boring.  Carrows is passable, though.

    Message: 58793
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Food/Denney's
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 12:48:52

            I do not like Denney's food at ALL... nothing but bad when I have
    gone... and that includes the service.  At least this is my experiance at
    the one in the Smitty's center, Bell Road and I-17

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 58794
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mark/all or nothing
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 17:25:02

            Your messages were good, well written and worthy of note.  In my
    everyday life I am not an all or nothing person.  If this were true, I
    wouldn't have made it as far as I have.  But in a debate I go for the all
    because a journey of a thousand miles begins with, as you know, the first
    step.  I have nine children jumping around this planet and besides that, all
    humans are basically the same.  We all have worries and fears and real
    troubles whether you be rich or poor.
            I know this world needs much improvement, it is obvious after
    spending a waking day in it.  I like to push for change rather than accept
    that which is.  Someone has to do it.  I like to be a part of evolution, a
    positive part.  And I realize that we live in a top five country of this
    world but even the best needs improvement.  But this will come as humans
    learn about their roots and the possibilities of the future.  In the
    meanwhile, I will point out what I feel are inconsistencies, as I see them
    and learn in the process.  I am still evolving.   -Rod

    Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 370
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Shit-Chat
    Subject: Everyone
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 05:55:06

    What has happened has everyone died and went to hell or wherever
    people go to die.
                      Ralph

    Message: 371
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ralphy/last
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 07:15:41

    I dunno where everyone is, but we better conjure up a hot topic pretty quick
    or Cliffy will start talking about shutting Apollo down again!
    Perhaps Peter will steal another controversial plant again! That'd do it for
    a while. Maybe Rod would suddenly, conviently be 'saved' and start preaching
    to us all! Perhaps Paul would become an atheist real quick. I could start
    drawing penis's again in the cos -- however, last time I did that, ended up
    in the zone! Why don't you think of something? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 372
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 12:45:23

    You also got a penis on your front lawn, if I remember correctly.

    Message: 373
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 12:56:05

            I just got a rather generous donation to the Phone fund from a nice
    user....  I don't think I will even talk about shutting down Apollo for at
    least a month, even if no one logged in or posted.  When users do things
    like that, it makes me feel selfish to talk about giving up.

            Sorry, I forgot what SIG I was in and almost started talking nice.
    Rod is still an ASSHOLE's asshole!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 374
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Shit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 14:24:41

    Kill the umpire. Dead

    Message: 375
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Shit-Chat
    Subject: ALL
    Date: 05/19/89  Time: 17:29:17

            I see the LIGHT!  I am SAVED, brothers!  Praise the LARD!  JESUS is
    coming.  Unless you accept HIM, you ain't shit.

            Cliff:  You are kind of a cute twerp, as twerps go.  If you cut your
    dick off, your voice may clear up.

    First name:SYSOP
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     1:        Yeah, I've been wanting to give Apollo some more bucks and I willdo
     2:so when I see you again.  -Rod

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