### Apollo BBS Archive - September 14, 1988

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    Message: 4193
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/spelling
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 05:13:55

    Thanks Rod for the spelling lesson. I have learned to spell better since
    being on Apollo than I have in the last 20 years.
    JT will pun me no matter if I spell perfect so I'm not worried. Bye.
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4194
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 05:26:00

    Yes, I agree with Sandy, that was a good post and probably true about
    government interference. However - I have found that different Title
    companies charge different prices and can vary as much a a couple hundred
    dollars! But I certainly agree with you re: gov. interference. They do at
    all levels.
    Re: the real estate 'scammer's' - I call them middlemen for lack of a better
    word. Con men would be more appropriate! But I do find they get away with
    it! I don't know of one that got put in jail or fined. AND - usually they
    turn around and do it again?! They must be well versed in the loop holes of
    the law! I know of one lady that made a fortune - she hid all her assets,
    filed for bankruptsy (sp) - moved to another county and is still doing it!
    She uses other people's names - like her children's - friends etc. That was
    also covered in the seminar my husband went to! See you. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4195
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 10:07:57

      Everyone can have their little plot of land now, just go out into the
    wastelands where nobody has already claimed it and do like the pioneers did.
    You will be away from all the negative thought pollution that way too. You
    will even be free from the guilt of contributing to a sick society by
    working as a locksmith.
      It is the land that someone else has already claimed for their own and
    made something out of that socialists would steal, why is that?
      See You Later,
        Dean H.
    p.s.(tell me the title of this book that JT, David, and I don't understand
    and you can explain it to me as I read along, ok?)

    Message: 4196
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann/Sandy
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 10:15:17

      Thank you both for letting me know I haven't wasted my time, and someone
    still reads this stuff.
      See You Later,
       Dean H.

    Message: 4197
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 10:55:24

    He's not out of office YET.

    (grin)

    Message: 4198
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 16:01:14

    Message: 4199
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: 1981-1988
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 16:49:58

    Labor Day we were asked if we were better off today the 8 years ago.
        During the years from 1981 to 1988 nearly 12 million Americans lost jobs
    as a result of no-notice or short-notice plant closings and mass layoffs.
    Morethan 44% of new jobs created during the '80s pay less than $7,400 a
    year.

     That is below the poverty-level income for a family of four. The number of
    Americans having to work in jobs paying the minimum wage has grown by nearly
    3 millionsince 1981. The number of families in poverty has increased by
    35|%.

       Since1981more than620,000 productive farm families have been put out of
    business. Small businessfailures has jumped,in1986 56,000 went under. more
    than 600 banks have failed.     Sooooo do we have it better today?" FROM
    JAMES KIMES"
                            The Old Fart Ralph

    Message: 4200
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 18:52:07

    Manufacturing jobs ("good jobs at good wages," in Gov. Dickface's
    vernacular) have increased during the Reagan administration.  The poverty
    rate has been steadily declining since 1982, and median family income has
    been steadily increasing.  Since 1982, the percentage of American families
    the top two income brackets ($35,000-$50,000 and $50,000 and more in
    constant 1987 dollars) has increased, while the proportion in all other
    income brackets has decreased.  Inflation, unemployment, and interest rates
    are all way down, and the economy has been growing for more than
    five-and-a-half years.

    Obviously some people have been hurt by the vicissitudes of the economy.
    But only an idiot would deny that the average American is better off than he
    was during the dark days of the Carter administration.  The American people
    are not idiots, which is why George Bush will be elected in November.

    Message: 4201
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Politics
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 20:13:33

    Hear Hear !

    Message: 4202
    Author: $ Pat Stoddard
    Category: Politics
    Subject: last few
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 21:47:45

    Am I better off than in 1980? Yes! My parents? Yup, them too! Dukakakis'
    'doom and gloom' campaign about how the economy isn't all that well off now
    is nothing but $#!+. Dukakakis wants to talk issues, but all he can do
    (rather weakly, if you look at how Bush is increasing his lead in the polls
    as of late) is deny all the good things that go on in the country, brag
    about Massachusetts (see my last post fram a few days' back on this one) and
    its 'miracle'. If he has new plans for his (never to be realized)
    administration, lets hear the details, not all these generalities about his
    plans. Also, his flip-flopping on the defense issues worries me. Bush will
    be in the White House in January.

    Later...                                                 Pat

    Message: 4203
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Dean/land
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 22:07:18

            But there wouldn't be any Circle K's out there.

            Actually, I am pretty tired right now but I wish to make one point
    about land ownership.  The land you are on right at this minute was ripped
    off land.  The natural law is, Whoever has the best armies, gets the land.
            The Babbit brothers, around the turn of the century, came to
    Flagstaff, Az.  There were at least seven strong in number and they were
    armed.  They now 'own' much land in northern Arizona, including Oak Creek
    Canyon.
            Say, perhaps we could form a club here on Apollo and with all of
    your weapons, we could go rip some land off.   Hmmmmm.
            Its like, who really owns what?  What make stolen land legitimate?
    Land is something that does not grow, it is a limited resource (don't
    mention lava flows and plate tetonics) and it is NOT fair that certain
    people hold the so-called deed while the rest have to rent and pay huge sums
    for monthly.
            EVERY LIFE FORM IS ENTITLED TO A PIECE OF THIS PLANET, it is
    something that cannot be leased or rented when it comes to the private
    sector, homestead, if you will.
            The book I was referring to is called Dr. Suess Explains Economics.
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
            * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod

    Message: 4204
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: David B.
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 22:10:24

            You can (Yawn) all you damn well please.  I still feel (and see)
    where this is important for the peaceful survival of this $hit pot of a
    world.  Sorry you haven't grown up enough to understand true equality.
    Perhaps a few pains down the road you will start thinking of your fellow
    human beings as your natural brothers and sisters.

    Message: 4205
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Better Off
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 22:13:48

            Outlook depends on what publications you read.  One book can show
    you how the ecomony has become better while another will show how it is
    worse.  What does the standard issue school textbook say?

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    Message: 1977
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Thang!
    Subject: weird
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 04:31:10

    I'm not on the list as being either suspected or not suspected.

    Message: 1978
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Nick/last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 05:30:25

    No Nick - I never gave you a thought. You are a nice guy and would not think
    up such a thing. Hmmm - come to think of it, your jealous of my car and just
    might try to get back at me with this .....! I'd better re-think this thing
    out. Do you have red computer paper? Red fingernails? Naw! Your into black
    only. Right? =*--Annie the ASSp--*=

    Message: 1979
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 06:32:02

    If the THANG had been black then everyone would know who did it.  Afro Poet.

    Message: 1980
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 11:02:20

    1. I work full time.
    2. I get paid VERY weakly.
    3. I don't own a car or any other reliable means of transportation.
    4. I don't know where you live.
    5. I'm a lousy artist.
    6. I own a 110 camera, and am a lousy photographer.
    7. My printer has no graphics capabilities.
    8. I'm not about to spend money on clay to create a sculpture of a male
       sex organ. Furthermore, I wouldn't have the nerve to leave something
       like a model of a penis on someones doorstep.

    I think Chiken is the suspect.

    Message: 1981
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Then there's Toddy
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 18:33:59

    Although I didn't do it, I did (really) think of a similar idea.  Someone
    beat me to the punch - someone with more time on their hands (or at least
    something in their hands).

    I was going to send a miniture replica of Cliff.  Of course, Ann wouldn't
    have been able to tell the difference.

    (Oh, just kidding Cliff)

    Message: 1982
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Thang!
    Subject: My Excusezez
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 20:23:52

    (1) I'm a good artist and have loads of airbrushes and paint
    (2) I have an auto-slr 35mm and take great pictures of nudes
    (3) I own a truck big enough to transport the THANG
    (4) I get paid bi-monthly
    (5) I know your address, phone number, names of your neighbours and
        have an accurate calendar of your social activities.
    (6) My printer prints SIDEWAYS
    (7) I love to play practical jokes
    (8) There's no way I could have done it as I have a jealous wife who is also
        a leathal weapon with a baseball bat.

    I'm sure you'll agree that I'm not the party you seek.

    Just one question. What are you going to do when and if you find out
    whodunnit ?

            -Mike

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    Message: 54121
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: 88/Reasons/Book
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 01:49:54

    They are selling for .75 at Jesus Chapel in Scottsdale.

    The leftovers are being returned to the writer tomorrow.

    There are not Many leftovers.

    The writer was a space engineer.

    He gave away millions and millions of copies. However, he could afford to,
    considering how much he made from the little book (actually two books in
    one). It was interesting. You read through to the middle, then turned the
    book over and read thru to the middle from that side.

    There were a lot of interesting points in it.

    I wish he had been correct!

    Carol->

    Message: 54122
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ponder
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 01:50:42

    My IQ is 142.

    Did you ever notice how many persons with high IQ's are actually stupid in
    many, many areas?   Dahhhh.

    Carol->

    Message: 54123
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann/Stars
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 02:01:18

    Jayne Mansfield sure had a gruesome ending to her life, huh?

    You might say that she was a little a-head of time?

    Was Harry James also decadent inasmuch as he was married to Betty?

    Hedy Lamarr....now that is a strange one...kleptomaniac and ended up in
    either the poor house or the mental ward, I can't remember. And Vivian
    Leigh? What a comedown from Scarlett O'Hara.

    Speaking of which, it is hysterical when you realize that the world was
    absolutely in a tizzy cause Brett made that remark about 'Frankly I don't
    give a DAMN!'   Damn, being the cause of all the furor...we should be so
    lucky today, huh?  My opinion: Well-placed swear words in movies are very,
    very effective. Multi-placed swear words are a pain to the
    eardrums...However, if they do not dwell on the sexually/related words, I
    don't even notice them...to any degree, that is. Never forget when I showed
    my mother 'The In-Laws.'  When I saw it I laffed my head off, when I showed
    it to her, I hid under the couch and wondered WHEN they had put THOSE words
    in there...ha ha...(I think I finally turned it off, telling her that it
    wasn't really that good )  Then, take the FRISCO KID...the words in
    unexpurgated version were atrocious, however, in its setting it was
    hysterical...when I saw the cleaned/up TV version, it was not half as
    effective and lost most of its punch. Strange, huh?

    Message: 54124
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Entertainment/Movies
    Subject: Home Videos
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 02:07:11

    If you are in the AFTER 1945 group and haven't seen 'The Manchurian
    Candidate', I would strongly recommend it. It is in black and white and
    stars Frank Sinatra, Angela Lansbury, etc. and is a psychological drama
    which holds you the entire time. In the Video stores now.

    Also, I saw OverBoard, with Goldie Hahn (sp?) and it is a great comedy. Did
    you see Planes, Trains, and Automobiles with Steve Martin?  I *hate* Steve
    Martin, but he redeemed himself in this one, and though there were parts of
    it that I hated, I think it is the funniest thing I have seen in years. In
    fact, I woke up in the middle of the night still laffing over it.

    When did I become a Movie reviewer?  Ha!  But at least it is something to
    talk about it and I enjoyed it.

    Nite...Carol->

    Message: 54125
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carol/last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 05:06:52

    Harry James was as wierd as Betty Grable. They were both very big stars when
    married and it went to their heads! I wish I could remember some of the
    details to tell you (what I can on the BB!) I also can't remember Hedy
    Lamarr's life story - having read it so long ago. Vivian Leigh could not
    Help herself - she was a manic depressive and had tubuculosis. Her violent
    mood swings caused her marriage to go on the rocks. Their early marriage
    seemed to be made in heaven - both such beautiful people and so talented.
    Then she became jealous - she felt he was the best actor and she'd go into
    these strange moods that were distructive. She died from tubuculosis -
    litterly drowning. The sad part - it could have been prevented.

    By the way - it wasn't Brett that said "frankly Scarlett, I don't give a
    damn" - it was Rhett!

    I too have grown used to the swearing in movies. It is appropriate at times.
    Too much is negative & boring. It has influenced me  - I cuss more! It's a
    long way from the time when I was about 9 years old and the teacher was
    talking about hair lice and used the word 'louse'! I about climbed into my
    desk from embarrassment on hearing that word.

    How can you have an I.Q. of 142 and not like Steve Martin? Ha ha. I take it
    you did not like 'The Jerk'? See you later. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54126
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Sandy/the boat
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 05:52:50

    Yep. The hot air balloon too!
    You too, huh?

    Message: 54127
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carol/ bad movies
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 06:02:09

    Talking about the use of foul language and what it does for/to a film, I
    think the Blues Brothers was a prime example.
    I saw it in the theater the first time, and considered the language somewhat
    extreme, to say the least.
     Then I saw it some time later on commercial TV, all the "bad" words
    expurgated, and found it to be just as hilarious as it was before it was
    edited. I don't think all the filthy language added as much as one laugh or
    one iota of "realism" to the film. About all it did was give the film the
    coveted "R" rating, which seems to be necessary today to make a hit movie.

    Message: 54128
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 06:38:13

    Totally incorrect Paul.  The Blues Brothers is one of the worst examples of
    editing.  I enjoyed the movie in the theater.  But when it came to TV, one
    third of the movie was cut out.  Perhaps the language was excessive, but it
    was the foundation of the movie.

    I refuse to watch it on TV.  The scene when they are in the nuns office is
    the best example.  The scene is hilarious uncut, but edited it becomes
    confused and jumbled.

    Message: 54129
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Entertainment/Movies
    Subject: Manchurian Candidate
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 10:12:52

      The latest Reason Magazine recommends this film also. I guess I will have
    to look for it.
      See You Later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 54130
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Angel Heart
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 11:12:49

    This movie is running this month on cable. Very gruesome, kind of slow in
    parts, but the end of the film really makes up for it. It focuses on
    mysticism and voodoo in Louisiana during the 40s. There are some rather
    explicit sex scenes in the movie, and the overall tone/topic of the film is
    rather creepy, so if you are overly moralistic or squeamish, I suggest you
    avoid this film. But if you don't fall into either one of these categories,
    give this film a look-see. It's really wild!

    Message: 54131
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Movies
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 18:24:03

    Anybody see "Shogun Assassin"?

    Message: 54132
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 54111
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 18:25:03

    But you did.

    Message: 54133
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Carol
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 18:39:05

    My IQ is 142 also.

    Message: 54134
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Entertainment/Movies
    Subject: TRAXX
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 20:35:54

    The guy who plays TRAXX in this B budget, B mentality, B- video
    should have stayed in hollywood squares. Although the guy looks like
    a terminal case of speed addiction in slow motion, there were a couple
    of genuine belly laughs. One in particular when the mob leader gets into
    his limo after expressing distaste for some cookies, rips out a long drawn
    bronx cheer ; "That's what I think of your cookies"
    For a moment its deadpan. Until he lights a cigarette and it blows him,
    his limo and the ground 20 feet around him into next Christmas.

    Oh well. So stupid it was silly.

    Message: 54135
    Author: $ Ronnie Phillips
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: Crossroads New Numbe
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 21:04:53

    Crossroads BBS has moved!!!

    The new number is: 941-2005.
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    Message: 54136
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 142 I.Q./JT
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 22:19:57

            Yeah Carol, you've proved your point.
            * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
    P.S.  I knew that Ponder was stupid when he used the word 'time' in that
    particular context.

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    Message: 235
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Rod/fake
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 05:40:06

    Not me! I'm no fake Christian. In fact, last night the 'Rapture' came to me!
    It comes to me often - especially when I drink V.O.!!! I just won't let it
    'take' me! =*--The New Way Below Normal Preacher--*=

    Message: 236
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Dandy Sandy
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 05:41:39

    What are you in the mood for? I'll gladly lend you Thang! Poor baby. Ta, ta.
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 237
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 06:39:39

    Have you been using the thang as a dildo?  Isn't that against the law to own
    more than five?

    Message: 238
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Mike Farter
    Subject: ****
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 11:20:27

    Ok, you bucketful of regurgitated bile slime. You are the big chunks that
    are exhaled in the process of a Dom DeLuise vomit orgy! (Did you know he
    scoops it up and puts it in Ziploc storage baggies(TM) and keeps them in his
    freezer for midnite snacks?) You are the slime that oozes out of an eyeball
    when you poke it with a needle! When I think of you, my mind wanders to a
    plateful of sauteed lung steaks! You, you terminal case of RECTAL GANGRENE!

    Message: 239
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Daryl DickHead
    Subject: Wait waitwaitwait
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 11:21:47

    HowCUM Cliff and Sandy don't have categories of their own?

    Message: 240
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 18:53:51

    What a geek.

    Message: 241
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: Rapture
    Date: 09/14/88  Time: 20:30:32

    Actually, I was taken up . God told me that since my spot in the heavens
    was currently being inhabited by a supernova, that I'd have to wait a
    few more years before he can call the landscapers and carpenters in.
    So in the meantime, he said to tell Rod Williams he's designed a
    special cage for him. It's made out of pure heroine laced in cocaine
    and decorated with colubian hash. Inside is a table and a comfortable
    chair. The walls are painted pure white and the only other thing
    inside is a HUGE Big Ben CLOCK. He said that instead of torturing Rod
    in hell, he'd recycle his brains every 10 minutes.

                -Mike

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     1:        Hell, with all the 'extras', I won't even notice the clock.
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     1:        Didn't you know, everyone on this SIG is a geek.
     2:* - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
     3:P.S.  We should give the SYSOPS their own categories, eh!
     4:
     5:Any suggestions?
     6:
     7:P.P.S.  Cliff, what should I do with the $100. bill that was taped under the
     8:bottom drawer of the desk?
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