### Apollo BBS Archive - August 7, 1988

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    Message: 933
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Nick/last
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 10:13:17

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 934
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Taranto
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 14:39:49

    He seems to be one of the only people *not* belonging to this sig.  Why?

    Message: 935
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 17:34:11

    He's just NOT creative.

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     1:        I guess he is just not creative enough.
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    Message: 938
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Retraction
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 00:14:21

    I have apped the offending "poem" in question. It was intended as a
    harmless attempt at humor, and apparently it didn't work. Let me conclude
    this retraction with the following:

    1. I did not know that JT was not a member of this SIG, and thus did not
       post the "poem" here as a means of attacking him behind his back. On
       the contrary; in being ignorant to his absence, I impatiently waited
       for a comeback from Mr. JT himself.

    2. To the best of my knowledge, given the information at my disposal, and
       the knowledgeable opinions of those that I know who are in one way or
       another, acquaintances of JT; furthermore, barring any information to
       the contrary and/or proof to the contrary that I do not have access to,
       James Taranto is not a fag. This should please those members of the JT
       Fan Club that have voiced their opposition. But play it safe anyway,
       and remember kids; always use a condom.

    Message: 939
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: New Poem
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 00:19:11

    Ending the reign of darkness
    Lodged deep within my soul,
    Visions of bright light fill me
    Innocence returns, and I am happy
    Silently I smile to myself.

    Longing no more
    I have everything I could want
    Vitality, humor, and strength
    Ending my silence, I grab my rhinestone jacket, Blue
    Suede shoes, and sing my song.

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     1:        In the Apollo vote we had on the subject, I too concured that He
     2:lives.
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    Message: 1739
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Zakey Baby
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 10:15:44

    See - your the guilty one! How did you know it was red? James didn't know
    that, so it must be you! Didn't fool me! I suspected you all along.
    =*--ANNIE THE FANNY--*=

    Message: 1740
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 14:42:18

    Ann, give me a break.  I heard it through the grapevine.

    James knew it was red.
    Peter knew it was red.
    Rod knew it was red.

    Between the three of them, it wasn't terribly hard for I, Zak Woodruff, to
    discover the color of the big dong:  RED!

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     1:        I didn't know it was red and I recently spoke with Peter and he
     2:didn't know it was red.  James Hawley told me that he found out it was red
     3:from you.  Isn't that interesting?
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    Message: 1742
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
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    Subject: last
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 18:27:17

    Isn't that special?  Oh, so now James found out the color from me.  How
    conveenient.  Someone makes a sculpture of a naughty part, all engorged and
    tingling, and I take the rap.  I wonder who did it...

    Message: 1743
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 20:19:37

    You wonder who did it?  Doesn't your right hand tell you what your left is
    doing?

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     1:        Will the guilty party(s) fess up?
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    Message: 53558
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Seeds of happiness
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 06:41:24

    Days like these make life worth living.  I plan to move late this
    afternoon into a house in Bethesda, Maryland, so my housing problems will be
    resolved.  I am also writing a speech for the Republican convention, which
    you can watch if you have CSPAN.  Early this afternoon I'll meet with the
    lady whose speech I'm writing, Lisa Renshaw of Women Entrepreneurs for Bush.

    Ending my internship is another thing I look forward to.  Only one more week
    and I'll be promoted to a real staff position in the PR department of
    the Heritage Foundation.  Actually, I've been an intern in pay only, and it
    should be good to get a real salary since I am already doing real work.

    Still, there are things I don't like about living in Washington.  The
    humidity is my biggest complaint.  (I'm used to hot weather, having lived
    in Phoenix for three years.)  Washington, unfortunately, also has too many
    tourists and too many "no turn on red" signs.

    Message: 53559
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: David & Dean
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 10:03:19

    Then you are saying that the economy has not changed? How can that be? Arn't
    we living in a 'credit era' more than ever in history? Or has this been done
    before? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53560
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: JT
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 10:10:44

    I am not Ducaca's anything. He has one redeeming factor that I like - he's
    young(ish)! Why does this country always vote for old men? Even an old woman
    would be a switch, but I'd like to see really young people in the White
    House - like the Kennedy's were. I have lived through 10 presidents or so
    and only one was young and he got voted in by a squeek! This is still a
    young nation - why vote for the old and staid? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53561
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Ann/DuTaxUs
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 12:13:29

      Selecting a Presidential candidate based mainly on age would be insane
    whether you picked a young one or an old one. A sensible person looks at
    issues and the candidate's past record. An older candidate often has much
    more experience and a more substantial record to go by, but this should
    not over-ride the candidates stand on issues.
     Take up David's offer on the economics lessons. Do you know that the
    depression of the '30s was largely caused by a run on banks because of
    extensive market losses that were taken on credit? How the government moved
    to 'correct' this practice and stabilize the system between then and now is
    largely the story of what is wrong with our economy.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 53562
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Economics
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 12:54:03

       I've noticed a common practice that I haven't seen mentioned before, and
    it seems to go against the various theories on competiton.
       When a market is dominated by one or a few large suppliers of a given
    good, all the other suppliers tend to match the price of the large
    suppliers, not just for price reductions but for price raises, too.
    Effectively, the price for that good is set by a single supplier.  Although
    there isn't any actual deal-making, the upshot is the same as if there had
    been price-fixing.  I think I have heard the term "price leadership" applied
    to this.
       I worked at an independent convienece store that was near a 7-Eleven.
    Whenever 7-Eleven raised it's price for an item, my store would match it
    within a few days.
       There are always a few suppliers that won't go along with this, but these
    can't serve more than a tiny fraction of the market, so all the others can
    ignore them.

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    Message: 53563
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Hawley/Sunday Morn
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 14:46:01

    Er, that's what I meant.

    Message: 53564
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT/DARYL
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 15:00:26

    Such adolescent behavior!  You two ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
    How do you expect to get along in this big, complicated, chaotic world if
    "U" won't "B" cool dudes and try to make some peace?  It would be far more
    touching and respectable to see you bury the proverbial hatchet.  AMEN.

    Understand me; I am not trying to convince you to kiss each other's sweet
    petards.  That is not the solution I advocate.  No way Jose'.  So get real.

    Actually, I think it would be best if you just got together and did
    lunch sometime, as friends, and cleared everything up in a decent and
    realistic setting.  If that's too much trouble, which I can understand,
    eh Mr. "Washington Man"?  If that's too much trouble for you's, how about
    a phone call to set things straight?  Don't you think it's time to stop?
    Don't you think hostility is a waste of time and emotional energy?  I do!
    You bet I do!  So let's get off our butts and hug a hated one!  Hallelujah!
    !!!

    Message: 53565
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 17:38:42

    I hear that Rod is trying to get onto Apollo.  So everyone that logs on
    after me should try to stay on as long as possible so that he won't be able
    to get on.

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     1:      What the Dairy, Alcohol and Meat Industries are doing, is
     2:correct in that if they don't lobby, don't fudge on the recently known
     3:truths that these products are not all that good for our bodies, an
     4:economic collapse of our nation, on a grand and swift scale, would
     5:ensue.
     6:
     7:Our own Surgeon General cannot say to the press these products
     8:should be avoided or even indicate they should be used in moderation.
     9:In the mid-sixties when men started sporting long hair, avoiding the
    10:barber shop, this in itself caused a mini economic upheaval.  The
    11:barber industry found itself in trouble, a great many shops quickly
    12:went out of business causing unemployment lines to grow and that
    13:industry had to reorganize but not without affecting our economy on the
    14:negative side.
    15:
    16:      Imagine what would happen if people quit buying small, oval,
    17:unfertilized, cylinders that came from the vagina of caged, cramped,
    18:sick birds, known to us as 'chickens' and if people wised up to cow
    19:flesh, red meat that is marbled with 'grease', if we quit eating these
    20:products during our summers, when it is beneficial for our blood to be
    21:as thin as possible in order for us to stay cool, our musous content
    22:would go down along with the economy, that's what.
    23:        Besides, what is a little mucous to a Kleenex Manufacturor?
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          If we didn't believe that "Milk Was a Natural", again our
    economy would take a quick dive to depths previously unknown to the
    living inhabitants of this nation.  Well, cheese is condensed milk
    that has, in a sense, rotted, and one ounce equals many cups of milk.
    I have personally heard from the mouths of medical doctors, to new
    mothers and mothers to be, that they should give their babies cows
    milk rather than endanger themselves by nursing.  What then are the
    female, human teats for, sexual foreplay?  I guess it is okay for a
    person to recommend this as long as stock is owned in that particular
    industry or a good understanding of economics exist.  Mother's milk is
    free just as solar power could be but neither benefits the majority.

          NEXT:  Drink alcohol, it may not be good for you but it
    certainly is good for our nation.  The consumption of fermented masses
    creates jobs for the working class, not only at the distillery but at
    the morgue, caskets makers, florists, the hospitals, in the courts,
    body shops and car dealers, both new and used, insurance companies,
    bottle producers, label makers, designers, liquor stores and their
    employees, but perhaps most of all, our own government, thru taxes from
    the liquor itself and related products and services.  Finally, I must
    warn you, if this nation sobered up, our country would collapse.
          Dominos anyone?
            * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
    NEXT WEEK, the solution.

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    Message: 53569
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 18:48:07

      Check with Jesse Jackson. The style will need a little work, but the basic
    direction is fine. The ability to drone on for hours without touching on
    reality is a big plus that Jesse is surely in the market for.
       See You Later
          Dean H.

    Message: 53570
    Author: Rod Willliams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Milky Way
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 19:19:17

    Hey man, you know what totally sucks?  This galaxy we live in man, it's
    called the Milky Way.  That means in order to live in the galaxy before
    shedding your gross flesh, you gotta suck on a cows tit by proxy.  That
    really sucks, it is all the work of the Giant Milk Conspiracy.  You see,
    they (the milk people) want to help our economy by making people drink lots
    of milk that was intended for caves (baby cows) which makes our blood thick
    and makes us hot in the summer.  Hey man, I don't want to be hot in the
    summer, it's already 111 degreas in Phoenix, who needs a lot of cows milk to
    make it even hotter still?  You know, it's not the heat it's the stupidity.
    This planet is not evolved enough yet.  We still drink milk instead of
    making our blood thin so we can run faster.  Why if I drank milk all the
    time like some sick people do, I would not be able to fix as many locks
    (which are a sign of a sick society) as I do.  That's because milk is a sign
    of a sick society and it makes the blood thick and hot like a mlkshake, only
    a hot milkshake rather than a cold one.  I have been told by medical doctors
    that if you drink a cold milkshake it azctually makes you hotter because it
    makes your blood thick.  So the upshot here is in essence:  "Don't drink
    milk if you know what's good for you."  And also how would you like it if
    someone "milked" your wife to feed it to some cow?  Not one bit I'll bet.
    It would totally suck.  So forget about milk which is a tool of the
    capitalist oppressors.  Just drink lots and lots of coke and pepsi and
    you'll be fine because your blood won't be as thick as JT's skull.
       * See you around the "milky Way" *  Love Rodd

    Message: 53571
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 20:22:16

    I wish you would come up with better text, JT.

    Message: 53572
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: economics
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 22:25:42

    I recommend the book _Economics in One Lesson_ by Henry Hazlitt, which is
    available for $7.95 plus $1.95 (USPS) or $2.25 (UPS) shipping and handling
    from Laissez Faire Books, 532 Broadway, 7th Floor, New York, NY 10012 (or
    call 1-800-238-2200, ext. 500).

    Message: 53573
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Milk
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 22:57:32

    Just a few observations:

    Milk - We westerners seem to put a lot of faith in the food value
    of the stuff.  When I was in the Far East, you couldn't find
    whole milk for sale.  Adults don't drink it.  Many cultures
    (Japanese, Chinese, Hindu) claim the occidentals have a terrible
    rancid body odor due to ingesting milk.  Also - in some regions
    of Africa, an adult that drinks milk can easily come down sick,
    because his/her body can't digest it correctly.

    I have to say that I'd hate to give up my cheeseburger, but I
    seldom drink milk or indulge in ice cream very often.  (And how
    would a cheese crisp taste at your favorite taco shack, if it was
    made without cheese?)

    Message: 53574
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: politics & septic
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 22:59:25

    Ann - you voted for Wilson/Coolidge?  (Probably not, maybe I
    ought to re-read your post)

    And about septic tanks - How would you like to live down stream
    of one that wasn't built right or wasn't leaching right?  My
    first house in Phoenix (about 7th Ave & Indian School) had a
    septic tank but the VA made the seller connect to city sewer.
    Sounds like New River might be a real fragrant place, huh?

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    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Change subject
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 23:00:35

    'Nother subject:  Any SF readers out there in Apolloland?  I
    don't seem to see much any more that has a very good story line,
    but this weekend In the LA airport, I picked up "Necromancer" by
    W. Gibson.  Couldn't put it down, I read it before we got back to
    Phoenix.  It is one of the few books about the future of
    computers that seems to be written by someone who has used one.

    The hero is a hacker who is hired by an AI (artificial
    Intelligence) to free it from programming restraints laid on it
    by its originator.  Good story, original ideas, characterizations
    better than the average SF, and even some steamy $-x scenes, too.
    If you're into SF, try it!

                                              Gary

    Message: 53576
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Pres. Cands. & Taxes
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 00:26:13

    Any presidential candidate that claims that he is not going to raise current
    taxes, or instigate new ones, is a lying pig and should be struck on-spot by
    lightning from God's personal special effects department.

    Message: 53577
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Speech Contest
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 00:42:24

            Yes, that's right, here on Apollo, we are holding the first annual
    Presidential Speech Contest.  You can lie all you want, just make it sound
    believable.  The prize, $10. cash money to the winner.
            By the way, any potential office holder that speaks out in favor of
    legalizing drugs will kill their future in politics.  (just a thought)

    Message: 53578
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dean & Rod Willliams
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 00:44:13

            I enjoyed both of your posts, thanks for the laughs guys.
            * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod

    P.S. Support America, Get Drunk.

    Message: 53579
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Dean
    Date: 08/08/88  Time: 00:45:54

            Could you elaborate a little on why you feel I am off base about my
    economic ideas concerning the dairy, meat and alcohol industry.
                                    Rod

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    Message: 80
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: JT Intellect Bore
    Subject: vote
    Date: 08/07/88  Time: 10:21:44

    Yeah - a muddlehead voting for a rude bore! All politicians might not be
    rude, but they certainly are boring! So you fit the bill! =*--ANNIE the
    ASSp--*=

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     1:        I would like to write a speech for a candidate vieing for public
     2:office.  Could you fix that up for me?  Hey, how about my last two messages?
     3:        John Q. Public may vote them in on the honesty ticket or the CIA may
     4:just eliminate them.
     5:        Take care, have a good life.
     6:                * - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
     7:end

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