### Apollo BBS Archive - July 14, 1987

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    Mail from Mark Adkins
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 02:08:41

    Hi Rod...I got a message that you called tonight around 9:00, but didn't get
    in until around 1:30. Didn't actually DO that much...I drove out to Kiwanis
    Park because I heard something on the radio about a jazz festival there
    tonight at 7:30, but the "jazz" group was a less than well rehearsed band
    called "Igor's Cowboy Jazz Band"...oh well...they occasionally floundered
    into some decent swing rhythms and there was a goodly number of people there
    to at least provide a "festive" atmosphere. I stuck around for a while
    afterwards, and watched some people (mainly girls) trying to jump two ropes
    swinging out of phase with each other, without too much success. Watched a
    volleyball game (really wanted to play, but didn't want to butt in). Went
    and saw "The Squeeze", which was horrible...well, maybe not that bad, but
    not good either. Then I drove around looking for something interesting
    (don't ask me what) to catch my eye. I took Central all the way down to
    South Mountain Park (which was closed with a vehicle barricade), and back
    without finding any sort of night life (except for one or two decrepit souls
    which I assumed were street people (probably because they were sleeping on
    bus benches). Whoopie...

    Mark

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     1:I need to photocopy the songs contained in "Not The Bible" and that's why I
     2:phoned.  Christian and I were up for quite a while, as usual.
     3:                        See ye later
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    Message: 45071
    Author: $ Mark Adkins
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod/last
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 01:59:02

    That was great Rod. Every once in a while you come up with a real
    gem..."yea, though I trot through the valley of death, I get annoyed with
    this little fly that keeps buzzing me"...and..."he maketh me lie down in
    decay and slimeballs"...are surely two all-time great lines. They are
    certainly better than Michael Keaton's new movie, "The Squeeze". After I
    paid $5.50 to see it, I felt kind of squeezed myself.

    Message: 45072
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/JT/knot
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 09:14:27

    Very funny! I'd like to tie a knot ON him - not with him. By the way - our
    Woman/Ann/JT discussion is through - KAPOOT - done - over!! Have you ever
    heard the expression of "Pi$$ing into the wind"? WELL if I could, thats
    what I've been doing. That man - or kid, what ever - won't budge an inch. He
    thinks of himelef as an intelligent debater

    He prefers name calling to discussion, so I don't want to waste my time.
    I've read over the posts and I see he treats everyone that way too.
    Personally, I'd reather talk to God. --- ANN

    Message: 45073
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: In search of
    Subject: 2400 modem Customers
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 13:54:26

            If I could get a deal on some 2400 BAUD  Internal EVEREX modems,
    would there be anyone wanting one?  I would like to get some for $199.95
    (Pre-paid Cash)....

    CliffORD!

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    Message: 1545
    Author: $ Zak Woodruff
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 16:27:35

    HARLY QUIN???

    Don't tell me you named your kitty after those books!  Even worse, after a
    motorcycle with an MTV vee-jay riding it...

    Message: 1546
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Melissa
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 22:47:26

    Two of my cats got eaten by coyotes or run over by cars, so I only have one
    left and could use some replacements.  Would you mind mailing me a couple of
    kittens?

    Message: 1547
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 22:55:30

    UPS?

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    Message: 411
    Author: $ Charles Zweiger
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: PC_DITTO
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 21:49:47

    I know someone who already has PC DITTO, and he says it works very well..He
    says he can put a disk in IBM format, load up an atari term, pop his IBM
    disk in the drive and download IBM programs..He also says that the list of
    programs runable is GIGANTIC.. I will enter a message with the titles by the
    company that makes it (which run with it)..

                       Talk to you later,
                       Charles Zweiger..

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    Message: 1105
    Author: $ Mike Howerton
    Category: Question?
    Subject: stuff
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 02:35:43

    Why am I awake at this time of the night????
    Why do I do things like this to myself???
    I am begining to think that I have masochistic tendencies. (Then again,
    I have thought that for a long time.)

    Did you ever think  that possibly we are all just a Little Computer
    People (TM) program running in someone's computer????
    I just waiting for the owner to answer when I tap on the glass.

    See what happens when you stay out late earning  money????
    It would be so much easier if I could earn this money in the afternoon
    but unfortunately it just isn't possible.
    (My he loves to ramble, doesn't he??)

    Message: 1106
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 23:07:07

    Why don't you go reprogram yourself?

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    Message: 45077
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Vote
    Subject: Lt. Col.Oliver North
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 15:54:52

            Is he GUILTY.... or is he ????
            A new ote soon to be posted on this...  Anyone have any input as
    to how to word the question?

    CliffORD

    Message: 45079
    Author: $ Robert Simpson
    Category: Tales & Tall Stories
    Subject: # change...
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 16:44:40

    The Black Castle is getting a new number (sucks.....But, we all must make
    sacrifices)  it will be 843-6782.

    Message: 45080
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Life
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 17:33:18

    ...
      Our arsenals for fighting off bacteria are so powerful,
    and involve so many different defense mechanisms, that we
    are in more danger from them than from the invaders.  We
    live in the midst of explosive devices; we are mined.
    ...
      The gram-negative bacteria are the best examples of this.
    They display Lipopolyssacharide endotoxin in their walls,
    and these macromolecules are read by our tissues as the very
    worst of bad news.  When we sense lipopolyssacharide, we are
    likely to turn on every defense at our disposal; we will
    bomb, defoliate, blockade, seal off, and destroy all the
    tissues in the area.
    ...
      All this seems unnecessary, panic-driven.  There is
    nothing intrinsically poisonous about endotoxin, but it must
    look awful, or feel awful, when sensed by cells.  Cells
    believe that it signifies the presence of gram-negative
    bacteria, and they will stop at nothing to avoid this
    threat.
    ...
      It is, basically, a response to propoganda, something like
    the panic-producing pheromones that slave-taking ants
    release to disorganize the colonies of their prey.

    Message: 45081
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Life
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 17:36:42

      I think it likely that many of our diseases work in this
    way.  Sometimes, the mechanisms used for overkill are
    immunologic, but often, as in the limulus model, they are
    more primitive kinds of memory.  We tear ourselves to pieces
    because of symbols, and we are more vulnerable to this than
    to any host of predators.  We are, in effect, at the mercy
    of our own Pentagons, most of the time.

    Message: 45082
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/God
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 20:20:28

    We can talk about any little old thing your heart desires honey!! Yes - J.T.
    is interesting, but then again, so is the plague. He was alright until he
    stared name calling. Even that would be alright once in a while - but thats
    all he ended up doing. WE can talk about statistics - the weather - sex -
    politics etc, etc. You name it! But for God's sake - please don't start in
    on women's saleries OK? -- ANN

    Message: 45083
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 22:33:04

    I have offered facts, and all you have offered in reply is statements like,
    "you are wrong and simply won't admit it!" or "you just don't know period."
    Not a single fact to bolster your case.  It is unfortunate that you don't
    feel this subject is important enough to merit a reasonable discussion.

    Message: 45084
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Cliff/North
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 22:33:30

    How can you ask if North is guilty when he hasn't been charged with
    anything?

    Message: 45085
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Today's lesson
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 22:41:54

    The Reagan Administration has come under a lot of fire for, if not violating
    the Boland Amendment, well, at least trying to find ways around it,
    violating its "spirit" if not its letter by seeking support for the
    Nicaraguan freedom-fighters.  Some wise-ass liberals have even gone so far
    as to use this to derogate the doctrine of original intent in constitutional
    law--the New Republic suggested that the Administration should have called
    Congressman Boland and asked him whether his amendment was meant to apply to
    the NSC.

    If the Boland Amendment is not unconstitutional, and if indeed the
    administration violated its provisions, it is legally culpable for doing so
    (whether it is morally culpable is a matter of some debate, but beside the
    point of this lesson).  But it is ludicrous to criticize the administration
    for attempting to supply the freedom-fighters while remaining in compliance
    with the letter of the Boland Amendment.

    In this country we have a system of checks and balances, so that each branch
    of the government exercises some control over the other two branches.  The
    current congressional hearings are a legislative check to balance executive
    power.  There are also executive checks on legislative power; the most
    important is the veto.

    Now, had the Boland Amendment been a bill unto itself, it would certainly
    have been vetoed by President Reagan, and would not have been able to muster

    Message: 45086
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Lesson continued
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 22:46:20

    the two-thirds majority needed to overturn a presidential veto.  Why didn't
    the President veto Boland?  Because it was an amendment to an appropriations
    bill, and if it had not passed, the government would not have been able to
    continue functioning.

    Thus, it is clear that Congressman Boland proposed it as an amendment to the
    appropriations bill rather than as a separate bill in order to get around
    the President's veto power.  Legally there is nothing wrong with this, but
    it did violate the spirit of the Constitution's veto provision.

    If the Administration defied the will of Congress, but did so legally, why
    is this any more suspect than the Congress defying the will of the
    Administration--completely legally?

    Message: 45087
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 22:55:03

    I agree completely.
    Putting these ridiculous amendments on appropriations bills is a practice
    which is much more damaging than anything North did.

    Message: 45088
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT on Ann..
    Date: 07/14/87  Time: 23:50:04

            What "FACTS"??? Something you "READ" from a book... and because it
    was someone else who wrote it, you bought it "Hook, Line and Sinker" as
    TRUTH? Does personal experiance count for anything?

            JT on Cliff ?
            Did I say North was accused of something?  Are you telling me
    we can't have a poll on how we feel about what is going on with Oliver
    North and the Contra affair (scandal)?

            Typical "Reporter" type mentality, J.T., Forcing your interpretation
    of the facts on other people rather than just reporting the facts as they
    are.

    CliffORD

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