### Apollo BBS Archive - September 11, 1988

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    Message: 4171
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 15:33:58

    That's idiotic.  Inflation isn't a function of capitalism; it's a function
    of government incompetence.  Inflation is a form of government taxation, as
    they inflate their way out of debt.
    When the market is allowed to work, it results in a better standard of
    living, not worse.  That's why the the slowdown in standard of living growth
    coincides with the growth in government.
    But I don't know why I'm telling you this.  You obviously haven't absorbed a
    new idea in twenty years.

    Message: 4172
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: David/Last
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 15:51:21

            Very well put.
    As for Rod ........ Before he can 'light up' with a new idea Rod will have
    to put a light bulb in first.
    And Rod would never think of going out and buying a light bulb, thus putting
    money into the hands of a capitalist store owner.

    Message: 4173
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod/#4170
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 17:32:42

    That was an excellent post and true. But forget trying to convince anybody.
    They all make excuses for why everything is the way it is and call you
    idiotic for not understanding why things can't be better! A losing battle!
    I=*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4174
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 18:11:21

    "By the rule of capitalism, profit and growth are the motives.  In order to
    make more, prices must rise on a continuum."

    Well, let us consider this.  Inflation is a measure of the change in prices.
    The faster prices are going up, the higher the rate of inflation.  To look
    at it another way, inflation is a measure of the rate of decline in the real
    value of money.  If inflation is, say, 5% in 1988, that means that at the
    end of the year, a dollar will be worth only 95.2 cents in 1987 dollars.
    You seem to think that a company is somehow gaining if it is earning profits
    in dollars that are worth only 95.2 of last year's cents.  Your logic (if
    any) escapes me.  Because of inflation, a company can be expected to raise
    its prices to cover its higher nominal expenses (including wages) and to
    increase its nominal profits.  But a company making $1,000,000 in profits
    this year, assuming an inflation rate of 5%, is no better off than a company
    making $952,000 in profits last year.  (This is a bit of a simplification,
    since inflation is spread unevenly; e.g., this year, food prices have gone
    up while oil prices have declined.)

    The people who benefit directly from inflation are those in debt, since
    debts are paid off in nominal dollars plus some fixed interest rate.

    Message: 4175
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: David
    Date: 09/11/88  Time: 02:20:47

            But government hasn't raised taxes in 20 years or more.  At least
    that is what you said on the main board a month or two back.
            With out government, the greedy capitalists pigs would raise their
    standard of living by raising their profits.  I think they are called wind
    fall as in oil.
            Yes, you are correct David, I haven't absorbed a new idea in thirty
    years.  You are begining to parrot JT, hmmmmm.

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     1:        Okay, then why are the rich getting richer and the poor, poorer.
     2:Don't answer, I already know.  This system, by observation, not by the book,
     3:is running poorly, if at all.  The nations prisons are full, welfare rolls
     4:are crowded and you people hum along like, wow, you think it is working or
     5:something.  No way.  The working class is being walked over and continually
     6:conned by the leisure class but to hear you and Burkhart tell it, everything
     7:is running okay, providing Burkhart believe that government has not raised
     8:taxes.
     9:        If there is a sore on your arm then something is wrong with your
    10:body.....well if the sore is not healing then something is terribly wrong.
    11:This nation is the body and its arm does have a sore, a big one.  Sure, its
    12:the best damn system on planet earth and boy, am I proud.
    13:        Oh well.
    14:end

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    Message: 1960
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 15:53:04

            No, that is not Chuck you .......
                    it is   Chuck Chew ...... hehehe

    Message: 1961
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: New soaps!
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 17:36:56

    No - not soap operas - SOAP! There are two new soap products about to hit
    the market - they are called 'FUGG & SUGG' soap powder. Their motto is ..

         * If you can't FUGG it, SUGG it'!! *

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    Message: 54098
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Rapture
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 16:04:04

            There can not be a rapture .......
    If it was to happen ....... 1666, would have been a more appropriate
    date. Even sounds Biblical.
    To the best of my knowlege the year 1666 has come and gone.

    Message: 54099
    Author: Terry Ponder
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: My IQ
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 17:04:53

    My IQ is 139.  Protection for same is .931 in order for me to maintain 100%
    mind use.  Einstein's IQ was 169.  Protection for same is .961.  5/4 logic
    protection for the human mind translates into "circle" thought processes -
    sig-gis.  Positive thinking is used for making decisions and learning -
    positive-reverse polarity - same direction.  Positive thinking is used for
    correcting mistakes and learning - reverse-positive polarity - same
    direction.  No doubt we can learn somethings the easy way.  Namely, from
    someone else.  No doubt we learn somethings the hard way.  Namely, we make
    mistakes.  Some have said that there is a fine line between genius and
    insanity.  There is in reality a dot (.)- mine is 139.931.  Einstein's
    169.961 - The dot is myself and it meets with me at 5.  No problem!  What's
    yours?  Thought process involves of course ability - however understanding
    pulls in with wisdom if it is true understanding.  You - yourself should
    meet at five as I do. (.) or 5!!! ie to 1395.5931!!! - suggestion.... In
    proper thought process both directions on the "Circle of Thinking" are used.
     Both directions at the same time.  One to make decisions.  The other to
    correct mistakes.  Both are positive thinking.  Pondering pulls in
    meditation wich is mediumistic, spiritual, psychic and adptability.  When
    you start a circle of thought remember where you started.  When you get back
    to that same spot you will have completed one cycle.  Regardless of how many
    cycles of thought are necessary to think something thru, it is important to
    remember where you started - otherwise you can get lost in thought.  The
    unreal world defined is no sense of direction because of loss of self.
    Don't lose yourself in thought process - your mind is not a taperecorder.

    Message: 54100
    Author: $ Mark Jones
    Category: Hard/Software
    Subject: PC Tools
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 20:50:09

    I have a Sanyo 555-2, CGA, Missing Link.  How do I get PC Tools out
    of residence, that is how do I use it?  It will load but Ctrl Esc
    doesn't bring it out like it does on a Tandy 1000 et all.

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     1:        Okay, sounds reasonable.
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    Message: 224
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Mighty SYSOPs
    Subject: JT
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 16:08:13

            Can we all assume that you would like to have the inscription
    "What a Geek" on your tombstone just below your name?

    Message: 225
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Old Fart Ralph B.
    Subject: Ralph on Daryl
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 17:45:26

    I had the best laugh  when you told Daryl to 'Just shoot him'! I'm still
    chuckling. But you gotta admit - that was a creative insult Daryl did to
    Mike. But Daryl's in for it because I've read some of Mike's! No slouch
    there! =*--Annie the ASSp--*=

    Message: 226
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: Sandy
    Date: 09/10/88  Time: 18:12:44

    Is that a death threat?

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     1:        Don't worry about it, JT.  The rapture is happening in a few days
     2:and since Sandy is a Christian, she won't be around afterwards.
     3:        I'm planning for the rapture by finding a totally Christian company
     4:that uses a Cray computer.  I'll just wait outside until it happens then
     5:I'll go in and help myself.  Main frame, here I come.
     6:* - *  See You Around The Universe * - *       Rod
     7:end

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    Blehm, Ralph
    Carls, Steven
    Carter, Mike
    Hamilton, Alan
    Hawley, James
    Ianuzzi, Nick
    McCarron, Dean
    Oudin, Ann
    Stone, Kobble
    Taranto, James
    Westfall, Daryl
    Williams, Rod
    Woodruff, Zak

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