### Apollo BBS Archive - October 20, 1988

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    Message: 1097
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Chevys and Vettes
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 04:23:32

    I need something from there --- a set of keys to their showroom.

    Message: 1098
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann's car
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 04:37:27

    The 350 V8 produced 225 horsepower as installed in 1985 Corvettes. Further
    refinements have upped the rating to 245 horsepower for 1989. Remember that
    these are NET horsepower ratings, so they can't be directly compared to the
    rated horsepower of vehicles produced prior to 1972. Net horespower is
    measured through stock exhaust manifolds and mufflers, with all engine
    driven accessories operating (water pump, alternator, power steering pump,
    etc.). Typically, a net rating is 25% less than an old style gross
    horsepower rating.

    Keep in mind that parasitic drivetrain loss is much less in current model
    cars than it was in the "musclecar" era. In other words, more power gets to
    the ground than it used to.

    I see no reason why a properly prepared Chevy 350 V8 would "explode" if
    called upon to produce 400 horsepower. Much of what would be necessary to
    produce that kind of horsepower would be replacing the weak points with
    stonger parts anyway. However, there isn't much you can do with Chevy's fuel
    injection unit. The factory says that even a modified unit can't flow enough
    to produce beyond 350 horsepower.

    Message: 1099
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Chris/Nick
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 09:17:55

    I have printed out your posts and will let my hubby read them and make
    comments. I don't even know what youse guys are talking about. Ta ta
    =+=ANN=+=

    Message: 1100
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Bragging a bit!
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 09:34:00

    I just recieved a certificate from the World of Poetry magazine that
    published one of my poems called 'The Flames of Love'! They will be sending
    me some sort of trophy. (brag) (boast) (Blush) =+=ANN=+=

    Message: 1101
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Nick/Ann's car
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 11:52:38

    Yes your right, but if you have 200 HP today compared to 200 HP in 1969 you
    would WANT today's hp...  In other words it is 25% more, not less...
    Besides,  HP is a number... TORQUE is really what you want...  Horsepower is
    gotten through an equation(sp) and therefore it really is a 'number'...  It
    IS possible to have 600 horsepower and less than 300 ft. lbs of torque...

    I have the plans to get 425 ft. lbs out of a small block Chevy with about
    400 HP...  It would cost major dollors because if it isn't right, it'll come
    apart...

    I said in my last post that the "Factory" engine wouldn't take 400 HP, not
    any 350...

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     1:        I rekeyed the place several months ago.
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    Message: 1103
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: HP vs Torque
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 21:35:53

    Rod;
        Horses is a misnomer when referring to power measurements. Once upon a
    time I would imagine they may have , but not now.

    Torque is directly relational to the mass / power / time and the sqaure of
    distance equations. I have them somewhere..used them for a computer
    generated drag racing game...

    If you have a 'Vette with 400HP but it cannot develop that 400hp on a small
    time / distance curve, it's useless against the 'Vette with 350HP
    and buckets of torque.

    That's why Porsche's can usually take 'Vette's at any light.

                            -Mike

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     1:        But I knew that.  Yes, early in the century, the horse was a
     2:guide line.
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    Message: 2197
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Todd #2188
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 09:21:09

    Now that's better! I love the word 'Young'! I know Rod thinks time doesn't
    exist - but why doesn't my body know that? Hahaha. =+=ANNIE THE FANNY=+=

    Message: 2198
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: My closet
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 09:24:10

    My closet has Steven King type monsters. I cannot go to sleep if the
    sliding closet doors are open even an inch. I also cannot dangle my foot
    over the bed edge either. That monster under the bed will grab me someday if
    I do. =+=Scared Annie=+=

    Message: 2199
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Ann/Monster
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 19:32:19

            It would probably be James Hawley.

    Message: 2200
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Secrets in closets
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 21:03:16

    ummm, Da Big Guy let me know, in a very direct manner last night, that he
    wasn't happy that I told you guys where he lives.  Please don't tell
    anybody, as he (and I, if I'd thought about it) doesn't want a whole bunch
    of mindless sycophants banging down the door.  Also, he doesn't like to
    move.  And I don't want him to leave because he runs the house cheaper than
    solar (eat your heart out, Cliff)

    Message: 2201
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Anxiety closet
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 21:42:47

    Inside lurks a giant Pentode with a mouth that keeps babbling that
    soon silicon will be gone and the "Glorious Return of the TUBE regime"
    will in effect "Revolutionize computers".

    AACCCkkkk!

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     1:        Well, you think that's great.  I have some news for you, dude.  I
     2:keep Satan in my closet.  One of his favorite past times is blowing rubbers
     3:up then popping them.  Strange....
     4:                                Rod
     5:P.S.  The latest National Enquirer headline, "Hitler alive and well, living
     6:in Russian hospital.   But I knew that.
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    Message: 54779
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul/gays
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 04:20:49

    There is a genetic predisposition to certain types of behavior, just as
    there is a genetic link to many diseases. That is not to say that we cannot
    willfully alter our behavioral yearnings, but in the case of sexual
    preference, it might be particularly difficult.

    Message: 54780
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 05:16:49

    That's news to me, and yes, I am interested. I will also check my humane
    sources and see what this legality of such cruelty is all about. THere are
    plenty of "blood sports" now without involving the killing o animals to
    satisfy someone's sadistic bents.
     The danger in organizing something such as you describe though, is that it
    tends tomattract the nuts and oddballs who carry things to extremes. For
    example, wht do you think ought to be done with the three Rottweilers who,
    after attacking several other people, attacked and mauled that little girl a
    few weeks ago? An organization such as yours will attract those who think
    they (the dogs) ought to be rewarded for heroism. I know. I have been in
    such a group. In fact, at one time I faced the county board of supervisors
    and was at least partially instrumental in getting the present dog pound
    built. I know that now it is still inadequate and there are still things
    going on that shouldn't, but it is far far superior to what they had before,
    a ramshackle mess on E. Hess St. that killed more animals by disease than by
    injection. Good luck in your efforts to stop the insanity, but don't let
    yourself get carried away by the loose ends.

    Message: 54781
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 05:19:20

    I'll gladly cool down, as soon as you do. You're about 2 to 1 up on me in
    the name calling department, but I'm more than willing to change the
    subject.

    Message: 54782
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 05:28:28

    You are assuming a fact not in evidence, except for the claims of the
    homosexual community, who continually try to whitewash their sin and give
    their perverted lifestyle a cloak of respectability.
     Homosexuality is NOT a disease with which people are born. It is a sexual
    preference, a lifestyle that these people choose for themselves, and one
    which they can turn from whenever they choose to do so.
     Never forget, the AIDS problem that is now such a serious threat to the
    entire population began with the queers, and the great majority of the cases
    are still in the homosexual community. THe fact that it has spread to
    children and innocent recipients of bad blood is a tragedy indeed, and no
    expense should be spared in finding a cure, but let's never forget it's
    source, and let's stop trying to recognize that which is totally and
    absolutely condemned as some kind of acceptable "alternate life style". It
    is not. Never was. Hopefully never will be.

    Message: 54783
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 07:04:08

    I have never heard of a gay that could change if they wanted to
    pehaps that is why so many kill themselves, because they can't change.
                            =)) RALPH ((=

    Message: 54784
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Taranto
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 08:09:31

    Just before I read your post, I got a feeling of Deja Vu - like I knew
    exactly how you were going to respond! I was right. You are getting
    predictable. =+=ANN=+=

    Message: 54785
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Chris
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 08:09:48

    Thank you! =+=ANN=+=

    Message: 54786
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul/organization
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 08:29:37

    I understand what you said about fanatical animal rights groups and that's
    exactly why we are trying to form this one. I could not believe what some of
    the other's stood for - one group, called the ALF is very secret - you
    cannot just join because no one knows anything about it and I assume you
    must be invited. They don Ninja suits and raid labortories and set the
    animals free. They will choose a pet shop that they feel is cruel to their
    animals or too dirty and simply take the animals. They do advertise in some
    magazines selling T-shirts with their logo. All of the other organizations
    are just as fanatic - they are total vegetarians or some don't believe in
    having pets of anykind. As long as theres so much fanatisium - nothing will
    get done to protect the animals. Our motto will be moderation, not extreme.
    Basically, we do not want to abolish anything - just have stricter rules -
    I.E. lab animals. They go through hell when a new product is tested such as
    mascara. Hundreds of mice, gerbals and hampsters are blinded by extreme
    testing and suffer greatly. We do not want to see animals not used - they
    play a very important part - but we do not need for instance, any new
    mascara, lipstick, soap products thats new and improved - cold cream, or
    anything of that nature that the companies keep coming out with. For every
    reproduction of something we already have - thousands of animals die
    horriblly needlessly. We would just like to see this testing done in
    moderation and some eliminated. Of course, the animals used, being done away
    with painlessly and quickly. The chicken thing is just about the worst. They
    live their entire lives in very small cages where the can't hardly turn
    around. I saw a picture from a animal rights magazine last night
    that made me sick at heart. It was of a hen that had sat in that
    small cage for over 4 years. Her feet had gelled to the cage bottom and they
    had just cut her feet off and threw her in a pile of dying hens! They didn't
    even bother to wring her neck for a quick death. We do not want to do away
    with chicken farming - we want to see them have 'barnyard' space for the
    time they are on earth. There is no reason they cannot do this either. A lot
    of chickens would fit into a small barnyard and someone could gather the
    eggs. They would lose some profit granted, but it would certainly be more
    humane. We eat these chickens too that have lived a life of stress from
    the moment they are born - never knowing their mother or a human hand,
    except to kill them. Ditto the beef industry. We are not against meat eating
    - but a more humane way to kill them could be done. One thing we would like
    to see get completely done away with is veal! They take baby calves and put
    them in huge barns - in stalls that they can't move around in - they stay
    there several months in complete darkness until their weight is up and then
    they kill them. We could live without veal!!! We are not opposed to killing
    a baby calf - just let it have it's barnyard space before we do and not put
    them in the stalls! There is also the fur trade - which speaks for itself.
    We do not need minks, foxes etc. to feed our ego. Cow hide is another story.
    No use letting it go to waste. Time running out. =+=ANN=+=

    Message: 54788
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Re: cockfighting
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 09:12:14

    Here again - we do not want to do away with it, but it could be done in a
    more humane way - no gafs put on the spurs and no razors in the wings.
    Rooster put up a formitable fight without all of that. As it is now, the
    fights last for hours, depending upon the stamina and breeding of the
    rooster. The trainer/owners will dunk them in a pale of water to revive them
    so they can keep on fighting. The winner is the one that isn't dead or too
    weak to fight. They kill the loser by slamming it against a wall or pull
    it's head off. The winner usually dies anyway from the wounds and stress.
    They then throw all the discards in a pile! They could still have cockfights
    and not have all the happen. No gafs & spur - just let them get in an arena
    and fight like rooster do and the winner could be judged like they do a
    boxing match and stop the fight before death occurs. The roosters would have
    barn yard space and good care like race horses. Are they really less
    important than race horses? Holy hell would brake lose if the public got
    wind of a horse being treated like that!
    Yes - it is legal in Az. and the Arizona Cock fighting assoc. even puts out
    a magazine where you can buy the parfinalia for the fights. It is kept low
    key and 99 out of a 100 people do not know it exists here and is legal. The
    biggest betters, owners are the Mexicans that come across the border and the
    American Mexicans. This has been part of their heritage for centuries but
    that doesn't make it right. So you can see - we are not fanatics trying to
    stop anyone from doing what they want - we just want to see some control and
    rights for the animals. =+=ANN=+=

    Message: 54790
    Author: Shawn Furgason
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: This is it.
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 12:10:05

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    Message: 54791
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: ANN
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 16:16:05

         Out of curiousity, where could I pick up a copy of the cockfighting
    assoc. magazine?

    Message: 54792
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: LIBERTARIAN
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 16:28:43

    (from the AZ. Republic, 10/19/88, by James Kilpatrick)

         Let us contemplate for a moment the presidential candidacy of a
    gentleman from Texas.  The gentleman proposes - seriously proposes - to
    abolish the Federal Reserve, to repeal federal laws on pornography, to wipe
    out farm subsidies and to legalize the sale of marijuana, heroin and
    cocaine.  Not content, he also would scrub the Mann Act because he believes
    that laws against prostitution are a violation of personal liberty.
         This is not all.  The gentleman would ask Congress to end foreign aid,
    to restore the gold standard, to turn air-traffic control over to private
    enterprise and to balance the budget by cutting everything by at least 20
    percent across the board.  That includes Social Security, school lunches,
    subsidized housing and food stamps for the poor.
         These are a few of the planks in the platform of Dr. Ron Paul, nominee
    of the Libertarian Party.  He brings to his campaign the frustrating
    experience of four terms in the House of Representatives as a congressman
    from Houston.  There he accomplished little, but learned a great deal.
         What is to be said of such a candidate?  In the conventional wisdom,
    what one says is that Dr. Paul is nuts.  In a more generous appraisal, he is
    naive, idealistic, ingenuous and simplistic.  After these modest
    observations, it must also be said that on some issues the gentleman
    makes uncomfortably good sense.
         The candidate does not look much like a John the Baptist crying in the
    wilderness.  He lacks the zealot's eye, the prophet's beard.  He is 53,
    though he looks 10 years younger.  The candidate is soft-spoken, but when he
    gets going on libertarian principles, he is about as soft as a fire alarm.
         The interesting thing is that Ron Paul believes.  He truly believes.
    He believes in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and he believes
    that society prospers when the people rely on their own resources first and
    look to the government last.  He is convinced that if most programs of
    public welfare were cut off on a Monday, by Tuesday the recipients would
    find ways to make do.
         In the newspaper business we seldom meet true believers.  It is
    therefore a refreshing experience to spend an hour talking with Dr. Paul.
    Viewed in the real world, his proposals are preposterous.  Impossible.
    Unachievable.
         And yet... and yet.  In his farewell address to the House in 1984, he
    spoke of farm subsidies:  "We learned nothing from the Depression years and
    continue to pay farmers to raise crops not needed, and then pay them to stop
    planting.  Our policies drive prices of commodities down, so we prop up the
    prices and put up the surpluses.  The consumer suffers, the farmer suffers,
    the country suffers, but our policies never change; we just legislate more
    of the same programs that caused the problems in the first place."
         One of his many radical proposals goes to the legalization of drugs.
    He draws a parallel between current policies and Prohibition.  By calling
    off the costly war on drugs, and making them legally available to adults,
    the worst of these comparable evils could be eliminated.
         The Libertarians have been running presidential candidates since 1972.
    They now are firmly established as the most prominent of all third parties.
    This time their ticket will be on the November ballot in 47 states.  The
    nominee has no illusions about winning, though he cheerfully observes that
    if all the people who are dissatisfied with George Bush and Michael Dukakis
    would vote for him, he'd make a respectable showing.  I expect he has a
    valid point there.

    Message: 54795
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 16:54:51

    We protect eagles because it is useful to man to preserve endangered species
    and because eagles have symbolic value to Americans.  Eagles have no rights.

    Message: 54796
    Author: $ Mike Darus
    Category: Vote
    Subject: ALIENS
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 17:21:59

    I was very surprized that most of the people in my office considered the
    recent TV "expose'" on UFO's to be a serious news program.  I thought that
    the format and host made it perfectly clear that all the references to
    military information was to provide a false sense of reality to what was
    clearly a show purely for entertainment.  The hypnotic trances have to be
    the poorest of any form of evidence.

    I allow that I could be wrong.  It may be true that aliens have been living
    in secret military bases in Wyoming since 1947.  If it is true, the machine
    I am using is obviously of their design.  This would put to rest any ideas
    of creative Americans developing these fantastic chips.  I always thought
    that scientific advances explained the evolution of the computer rather
    well.

    The real test will be whether Star Wars and the Stealth Bomber work.  If
    UFO's can blitz soundlessly and invissibly through the night, nuclear sneak
    attacks with that type of technology would be simple.

    Message: 54797
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Joke
    Subject: But I didn't expect-
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 17:44:10

    Nobody, but NOBODY expects the SPINACH Inquisition!

    Message: 54798
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Gorby Goobers
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 17:54:43

    A letter appearing in *On Gogol Boulevard*, Fall 1988 -

    Dear Friends,
      In the situation where mass media and all means of
    spreading information are strictly monopolized by the state
    it becomes important to enliven the walls.  Especially that
    the walls in our country are sad, gray and expressionless.
    Our cities are dominated by communist slogans.  In order to
    oppose this we need spray paints in bright colors with which
    one could write on the walls.  Unfortunately this kind of
    equipment is not available in our country.  This is why we
    would be extremely grateful for any kind of contribution
    from you in the form of sprays.
      If you were kind enough and wanted to participate in
    creating graffiti on Polish walls, then please, send us as
    many as you can, but no more than three containers in one
    parcel.
      HELP US GIVE VOICE TO THE WALLS!

    Send to: Wojciech Jankowski, 81-831 SOPOT,
    ul. Swierczewskiego 10/2, Poland

    Message: 54799
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul/gays
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 19:36:53

            Why, pray tell, would a person take the harder of the two roads?  It
    is somewhat difficult to be a gay in our society.  Sex is sex.  True, it is
    a little easier to be gay in the eighties but what about earlier times,
    times when being gay carried a jail sentence?
            You are incorrect when you say that people actually choose to be
    homosexual.  What Ralph said in his last post has a lot of truth in it.
    Being gay is not easy.
            Revise your thinking, please.
                                    Rod

    Message: 54800
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 21:18:07

    You are incorrect assuming people actually DON't choose their sexual
    preference. What Ralph said was uneducated and blind to the truth.
    Being Heterosexual is easy.
         Revise your thinking please.

    So many homosexuals have committed suicide because they are facing
    both societal pressures and fighting within themselves between what
    they know they want and like and natures distinct calling to the other
    sex.

            -Mike

    Message: 54801
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Homosexuality
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 21:29:23

    It is also interesting to note that not only do gays these days find
    it necessary to flaunt their faggotship on the streets, but are actually
    attempting to make it a crime to discriminate for  employment
    as to their sexual preference.
    Also, Rod, please mention what respectable science journal / publication
    that decisively states either homosexuality is inherited from parents
    through some genetic combination or a disease. The latter would have to
    be either inherited or communicable. I doubt you read anything more than
    some rag like PEOPLE magazine or the ENQUIRER. That one post gives the
    reader the impression you have references.

    The employment discrimination or Equal Opportunity Act is under attack
    by the Gay lobby. My question is;
    "What the Heck does sex got to do with your job anyway?"
    Unless of course you're planning on working for a pimp. The voracity and
    utter sheer nonsense of this current issue boggles the mind.
    I can just see it now; Resume's with "I'M GAY" emblazoned on the header.
    Gays getting fired because they made a pass at the boss.
    -and then suing for millions because of "Discrimination". No wonder the
    U.S. is so far behind in industrial prowess.

    Sheesh.
                            -Mike

    Message: 54802
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ron Paul
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 23:38:20

    I spoke with him briefly this evening after his lecture on campus here at
    UA.  I was fairly impressed with how he handled himself and the
    questions from the audience.  My favorite comment he made was regarding the
    argument people make for why they will vote for Bush over Dukakis--that
    they think Bush is the lesser of the two evils and don't want to see Dukakis
    get into office.  His response was that if you vote for evil, you get evil.
    It makes more sense to vote for a candidate who represents your views than
    to waste it on someone who's just going to continue business as usual.

    Message: 54803
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: ann/Peter P
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 00:23:47

    Thanks for two very informative and interesting posts. Ann I was horrified
    at what you revealed. Please let us know where we can get written
    information about this atrocious situation. It makes me want to be a strict
    vegetarian, etc.  In fact, along that line, as much as I enjoy boxing, I
    also hate it...something seems so wrong in watching two persons beating each
    other up...what is wrong is what is does to us, the viewers. I remember
    watching BOOM BOOM fighting and I was yelling 'Kill Him...' and he did, and
    I somehow felt caught up in the guilt for the death. Reminds me of the old
    Roman Games...I used to wonder HOW the people could watch and take pleasure
    in them - it is a disease of violence. We somehow pass along our own
    violence against persons/situations and live vicariously in the fights.
    Bull-fighting is another thing that I think should be outlawed worldwide.

    Carol->

    Message: 54804
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mike/Gays
    Date: 10/21/88  Time: 01:49:06

            Does everything have to be written in a book before you would
    believe it?
            And by the way, I have never, to date, read either a National
    Enquirer (cept fer the headlines while in a checkout line) or People
    Magazine.  My last subscription to a magazine was Scientific America and
    Reason Magazine.
            Have you ever heard that old saying about "walking a mile in another
    persons shoes"?  I think you assume too much, judge too much and condemn too
    easily.  I condemn no one.
            If one waits for something to come out in a book then that person is
    not much of an innovator.  The mind is a powerful thing.  It can do much
    more than you suppose.....it can do much more than I suppose but at least I
    am working on it.  First lesson, get unhung from a 2000 year old book of
    babel and try meditating, invent, be original.
            You seem like an intelligent person except I have noticed that you
    are very programmed in some areas (but most people are).  This is holding
    you back from achieving many things.  We need good people to help this ole
    world out of the pickle that it has always been in.  Won't you help?
                                    Rod

    WAY Below Normal Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 412
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: love
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 06:40:19

    We all love you Rod even if you are subhuman.
                              =)) SHOOT THEM ALL RALPH ((=

    Message: 413
    Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: LEFT HAND SHAKE
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 07:34:23

    I had a friend who's into all this religious stuff run a sort on his
    computer using both the King James and Jerusalem bibles as data bases.

    He couldn't find any reference to which hand the devil would use for
    anything, but a friend of mine who immigrated from Saudi Arabia did
    shed some light on the subject.

    He commented that in primitive desert communities that follow the Koran
    they are instructed to use only their left hand for cleanup during the
    excretory process.  The Koran further instructs them that they are to use
    only their right hand to touch other people, or to eat, to use the left hand
    is both unclean and a mortal insult.  Moslems will kill (literally) anyone
    who insults them by touching them with their "unclean" hand.  He didn't
    know if Shaitan (their devil) used the left hand or not, but thought he
    might!

    See Y'aa..........

    Jeannie

    Message: 414
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: Bush's handshake
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 09:30:05

    Yes, he is of the Devil, but so is Ducaca too. Quayle and Bentson shake with
    their feet! Hmmm - wonder what category they fit into? =+=Annie the AssP=+=
    P.S. Just think how lucky we are to be able to make stupid jokes like this
    one for the next four or more years - no matter who is elected! American's
    are sure lucky this election.

    Message: 415
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Planet Earth
    Date: 10/20/88  Time: 19:51:37

            I am from somewhere far from earth and one day I was out slumming,
    just tooling around the universe when I noticed this little dirt ball.  I
    decided to study it for a spell and I found out that it was named Earth.  I
    parked on your moon and with our ship's powerful telescope, I watched.
            The more I watched the harder I laughed.  I just couldn't believe
    there could be such a stupid planet in existence.  I finally got bored with
    all the senseless killing and other less than intelligent happenings so I
    decided to go home.
            Going around your star, my ship started sputtering so I made a U
    turn and landed on your home planet.  Well, to make a long story short, I
    need a part for my main engine and my communication device.  Your technology
    will not be capable of furnishing a part for my ship for another two hundred
    years.  I am stuck.  Help me get off.
           ROD           ______________________________116.69.666________

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