### Apollo BBS Archive - June 7, 1991

    *=* Please [V]ote *=*

    Drugs... right or wrong?

    [A] I am for the legalization of marijuana
    [B] I am against legalization of marijuana
    [C] I am undecided

    How do you vote [A-C] or [CR] to abort:A

    Poll results to date:
    [A] 1    [B] 3    [C] 0

    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 7467
    Author: $ Melissa Dee
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Mike C.
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 19:41:57

    What are the other 7?

    Message: 7468
    Author: $ Felix Cat
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod/Ants
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 22:11:55

    Re:  So, these little black ants keep pecking at my toes.

    Try moving your feet!

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    Message: 4805
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Melissa on sex
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 07:23:09

    I'm glad you brought the subject here. In fact, I started a message to you
    and aborted it for fear I'd end up in the Zone talking about such things.

    Sure, I find 18 year olds attractive - I did at 18, why not at 56? However,
    in honesty, I find some older men most attractive and that too I also did at
    18! But at 18, I did not see the merits of youths as I do now - flat
    bellies, hard muscles (pardon the pun), no wrinkles and to a degree,
    naivete! Yes, naivete. How nice to look into a young guys eyes and NOT see
    all the conquests he has made - NOT see the routine that is set - NOT see
    the problems he has getting it up!

    Yes, the young will ejactulate early as you mentioned - but that is why I
    joked about having 3-18 year olds to one 30 year old woman. I don't think I
    have to draw you a picture.

    On the other hand, I truly believe that two people must have a relationship
    that has lasted to have real good sex - not lust, not quickies, - just good,
    close sex and that takes awhile. I believe that period lasts from 25 years
    old to around 50 years old and then the male sexual drive starts waining for
    what ever reason(s). I don't think that the females urges would ever wain.
    But I don't know.

    Regarding the young again - I do find them attractive for some of the above
    reasons, but I think the best thing to do for both men and women is ....

    Message: 4806
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: melissa cont.
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 07:35:35

    ... have a long lasting partner that is close to your age. Everything in
    life works out better that way. You simply grow old together hand in hand
    even though your sexuality is on a different plane. Most people in later
    years do not think of sex all that much anyway. As you grow older, there are
    many new things to think about. There is nothing wrong in that. There is
    nothing wrong if one of the partners do not/cannot have sex anymore! As I
    said, there is other things to life. Your child bearing years are over
    anyway, so the urge has naturally wained! We are all hyped by the media into
    thinking that if we are to be happy, we must have a throbbing, rock hard
    penis, ready at a notice or a woman must drop anything and have sex with
    this throbbing penis - when they are 75! It would be nice to have frequent
    sex at that age, but it usually doesn't happen regardless how much it's
    touted! Instead, we have a bunch of people growing older very unhappily
    because they think they are 'half men and women' because they are not having
    this '18 year old sex' anymore!

    Anyway, these are some of my random thoughts on the subject - how about you
    - anyone else? *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 4807
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: last
    Date: 06/08/91  Time: 02:09:58

    Very good posts.  Sorry, but I was in a raunchy mood last evening.

    I think that sex is made important in our society.  It is packaged and sold
    by large corporations.  Because sex would be likened to smoking crack
    cocaine, people like to do it.  Because just for an instant we can feel good
    and satisify mother nature too.

    But natural sex cycles are often time broken by something we see or hear.  I
    think it is a shame that sex is the best feeling Event on the planet.  I
    wish that just living was but with laws crawling down our necks it is hard
    to enjoy what we see.

    I think that a purely mental climax is more rewarding than a physical one.
    They are stronger and stay with us for as long as memory exists.

    I think an eighteen year old female would be an interesting event, like
    heaven, but then so is being with your mate and that has its own rewards.

    Zak's FILm & Video Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 1634
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Beauregard Dog
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 14:19:44

    "Zak" is an acronym that stands for "Zagar, Ackerman, Kolostow," the
    original authors of the Apollo software.

    Why do you ask?

    Message: 1635
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cat on Lambs
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 14:20:47

    I thought it was an effective horror movie also.

    Message: 1636
    Author: $ Apollo SysOp
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: acronym?
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 14:29:36

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... Very funny.    Ackerman? ha ha again!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif-

    Message: 1637
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: ZAK
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 20:17:20

    Thanks.  I asked because I wondered who it was who "owned" this SIG.

    Late Night Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2040
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Number One
    Date: 06/08/91  Time: 00:46:37

    Sorry folks, I keep forgetting to check out this sig for new
    messages.  In answer to #2030 hence, I sit indoors near a
    patio window and she did her number 1 just outside.  There
    was a porchlight right over her and the switch was only one
    foot, 1-1/4 inches from my fingers.  I was tempted but I'm
    more of a gentleman than she a lady.   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    What a weird, weird experience life is!

         Apro "I Did NOT Order A Golden Shower!" Poet

    Public Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 75613
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Michael/cars
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 05:31:57

    WRONG!!!! My DOdge Maxivan has separate heaters for both the driver AND the
    passenger. THey are called windows. You crank them both open and it gets
    equally hot on both sides. So THERE!

    Message: 75614
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie on honesty
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 05:33:35

     Really Annie! You expect people to be totally honest about their sexuality?
    That's the laugh of the day!

    Message: 75615
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie/Bible again
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 05:38:54

    "Premarital sex is rampant in the Bible!"
     You seem to be under the totally false impression that merely because
      something is "in the Bible" that it's perfectly OK. Sure, premarital sex
    is in the Bible. So is adultery. So is murder. So is unbelief. So are a
    myriad of other sins. Just because people who are recorded in nthe Bible
    committed such things does not make them right in the eyes of God. People
    were people back in those days, just as they are today. Many of their
    actions, just as many of ours, show nothing more than their desparate need
    for a Saviour.

    Message: 75616
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Annie/75596
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 05:40:31

     I persist in pointingout truths to you because you persist in your false
    readings of everything you think you see in Scripture.

    Message: 75617
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Dean/Marquardt
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 05:45:08

     What the ex-judge, now retired, did, was to violate the very law he was
    sworn to uphold. Any other slant on the argument pales before his hypocrisy.
     Arguments for or against the addictability of marijuane, or for or against
    the harm done to others, are moot when held up to the light of what he
    really did. Of all public positions, the judiciary should be absolutely
    above reproach of any kind. WHether he agrees with current law or not, he is
    sworn to uphold it. He failed in his sworn duty, and should never be allowed
    near a judges bench again.

    Message: 75618
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dean #75598
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 06:55:47

    Good post! It is true that we are in a anti-drug hysteria along with a lot
    of other 'hysterias'! I also agree that marijuana is less danger than
    liquor. *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75619
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cat on Zone
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 06:59:29

    Peaches has never been in the Zone - however, Ann Oudin has often!
                          *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75620
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cat on 55
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 07:00:50

    But who would trade in a prime 55 year old for any young chick or even 3
    18.33333333 year olds??? *>>> ANN O. <<<*

    Message: 75621
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: Apollo $ Grant
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 08:58:12

    Following is a revised announcement of the Bill Burkett Apollo Foundation
    grant award for 1991.  Although nothing's really changed, we've decided to
    further delineate that the grantee must meet all the requirements "regular"
    $tatus users must meet.

    Message: 75622
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: Apollo $ Grant 1/3
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 08:58:39

    During 1990, I was fortunate enough to be Apollo's 150,000th caller.  As a
    result of that serendipitous achievement, I was awarded special Blue $tatus.
     That's lifetime $tatus with no renewal fees, ever.  In my case that's
    proven so far to be a value of nearly $12.00!

    I really do enjoy Apollo.  I log onto several BBSes each week, plus BIX and
    Compu$erve (my monthly CI$ bill is usually around $50).  Apollo is the only
    one of these I try to log onto each and every day.  It's well worth $12 a
    year and I'd like to continue to provide that small bit of financial
    support.

    So, what Cliff and I worked out is the Bill Burkett Apollo Foundation.
    Using my Blue $tatus, I provide a grant each year of one year's regular
    $tatus to an active, participating, non-$tatus user of Apollo.  I, alone,
    choose who receives this grant each year.

    Message: 75623
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: Apollo $ Grant 2/3
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 08:59:04

    There are only three restrictions on this grant:

         (1)  The grantee must log onto Apollo regularly.

         (2)  The grantee must complete all procedures normally
              required of $tatus applicants, including (if he or she
              normally logs on with a handle) his or her true
              identity.

         (3)  Messages posted by the grantee in the non-Cosmos
              areas of Apollo must meet general standards of civil
              discourse.  Generally speaking, this means merely
              conforming to the ules.  I am the sole judge of any
              violations of this standard, although the SysOps, may
              impose any other sanctions they feel are needed
              against the grantee.

    If either of these conditions is violated, $tatus will, at my sole
    discretion, be withdrawn and another non-$tatus user of the system will
    receive the remainder of that year's grant.  In any case, a new grantee will
    be announced each year on Apollo's birthday.

    Message: 75624
    Author: $ Bill Burkett
    Category: Bulletins
    Subject: Apollo $ Grant 3/3
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 08:59:25

    My hope in offering this grant is that it will get others "hooked" on Apollo
    and, in some small way, help increase the subscribing membership.

    The second grantee will be announced on Apollo's upcoming birthday, July 31,
    1991.

    Message: 75625
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/addicted
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 10:16:31

      Some people like marijuana a lot. I didn't like it when I tried it and
    didn't continue using it. I liked booze a lot more and used it heavily for
    about half my life at the time I quit. I don't miss it. We all probably find
    some things we like a lot and do them very heavily for a time. Some, like
    tobacco and heroin, are truly addictive, while others just seem to be the
    best thing that has come along for that particular person, as you said.
      We could each say that we feel 'addicted' to various things at various
    times, whether it's some tv show, a computer game, or a favorite food. The
    mechanics of physical addiction are another matter and it is too bad that
    self-serving liars can get away with blaming their behavior on false
    'addiction' and that this tactic is even preferred over explaining that the
    behavior involved was not a threat of any kind to anyone and should not be a
    criminal matter at all.
      See You Later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 75626
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Rod/Politicians
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 10:20:30

      Since the American political system has become a giant machine for
    harvesting the labor and freedom of the American public, it is no surprise
    that those with the power to do so do not want any competition at the polls.
    If you belonged to a governing status quo with a 98% chance of retaining
    office under the current system, wouldn't you want to restrict the access of
    other parties and candidates to the ballot?
       See You Later,
         Dean H.

    Message: 75627
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Paul/Marquardt
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 10:25:22

      I agree that the judge was sworn to uphold the law and that this is a
    valid expectation of judges. I brought up the subject specifically because
    of his hypocrisy in claiming an 'addiction' to marijuana which somehow
    excused his actions. I also pointed out that the law is also a hypocrite in
    this case, as marijuana would be much less of a threat to society than
    alcohol if pot were legal.
      See You Later,
        Dean H.

    Message: 75628
    Author: $ Michael James
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 14:13:18

    It's not hard for me to imagine you as a Christian, but it IS hard for me to
    imagine you at a desk job.  Did you wear a tie?

    Message: 75629
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Oily Residue
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 18:25:22

    Some operations squeezed

      On the other hand, petrochemical- and gasoline-marketing
    operaions were squeezed.  Petrochemical unis were hurt
    because demand for products slowed while costs for crude
    oil, the major raw material for making plastics and other
    products, soared.
      And gasoline-marketing divisions were unable to recover
    higher costs for wholesale gasoline deliveries because of
    the major oil companies' response to Bush's call to keep
    retail prices in check.
      Jacoboski said four of the 10 major oil companies he
    analyzed should exceed profit increases of 40 percent for
    the quarter, including Amerada Hess, Phillips Petroleum and
    Unocal.
      "Earnings might not be up as much as people think," said
    George F. Friesen, and analyst in New York with Deutsche
    Bank Capital, a brokerage subsidiary of the West German Bank.
      "A lot of companies did respond to President Bush's call
    for restraint at the pump.  But some companies are doing so
    well, it's going to be very difficult for them to disguise
    their earnings."

    Message: 75630
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Beau / 75583
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 18:52:34

         One SEXUAL thing, Beau.

    Message: 75631
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/last
    Date: 06/07/91  Time: 20:13:48

    Now you're interpreting, reading between the lines...

    Message: 75632
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: News Today
    Subject: The Haves Knot
    Date: 06/08/91  Time: 00:57:17

    Give a dollar to a man who has nothing and he will value it
    as if it were his last.  Give a dollar to a millionaire and
    he will accord it a millionth of his concern.  We trust
    America's wealth to those who value it least.

    Today Apple Computer annouced that they were cutting top management's salary
    by 10 percent.  This was in response to economic pressures and employee
    unrest over recent layoffs.  "The bottom line is not expected to be
    affected."

    Message: 75633
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Paul/desparate need
    Date: 06/08/91  Time: 02:18:49

    When some human animals developed a need for a savior, they made up a duzie.

    People make up all manner of things, some good, some not so good.  I think
    some people take a religion much too seriously.  What, are we being graded
    by some cosmic giant who wants what it made to run obstacle courses?

    Message: 75634
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Michael/Tie
    Date: 06/08/91  Time: 02:30:12

    Yes, I wore a tie with a suit and even a vest.  I wore black leather shoes
    and I shaved five or six days per work week.

    I drove a little red sports car, a 1966 Karmann Ghia and I though war, any
    war, was okie-dokie.  I was more intertested in watching Monday night
    football, having a drink and chasing women.  It was me against the rest of
    the world, who I thought at the time was no relation of mine.  Little did I
    realize, eh?

    Oh well.

    Message: 75635
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Dean/Politics
    Date: 06/08/91  Time: 02:34:01

    Yeah, I heard today that President Bush went into Emergency Session and now
    there is a law that reads:

                    Unlawful to carry a loaded video camera.  Tapes cannot be on
    person.

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