### Apollo BBS Archive - December 2, 1988

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    Message: 1963
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 01:49:19

    She wasn't ugly.

    Message: 1964
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 02:21:14

    Though she probably is by now.

    Message: 1965
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last Few
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 05:44:36

    What is Ugly?
                     !!! Shoot them all RALPH !!!!!

    Message: 1966
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Sandy/Star Trek
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 08:39:16

    When I saw that post - I also immediately thought of that Star Trek show.
    That's the way wars should be fought - except no one goes into those
    chambers to die. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 1967
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: James Digger Hawley
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 08:40:57

    Sorry James - I would not misspell one of my favorite shows. Nice try!
    -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 1968
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Star Trek woman
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 08:44:06

    She was beautiful! Blond and fair but dumb! Why? She loved the Captain and
    not 'yummy' Spock! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 1969
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Review/Critique
    Subject: Last many
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 19:24:21

    Just goes to show you why to say "No to Drugs".

                            -Mike

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     1:        What is not a drug?
    The message is 1970

    Message: 2392
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Joke/original
    Date: 12/01/88  Time: 22:22:20

            I made up a joke once but I forgot what it was.

    Message: 2393
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: last
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 02:21:43

    That was quite funny.

    Message: 2394
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Sandy on JT
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 08:45:06

    You forgot - 'being a turkey'! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 2395
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Nick
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 08:45:51

    Where have you been lately? Your car brake down of something?
    Hahahahahahahah

    Message: 4850
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Vertificates
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 19:21:39

    My wife and I are the proud owners of a copy each of a certificate
    from the apollo newsroom...stamped with the official Apollo Seal!

    Thanks Cliff & Sandy !

                            -Mike
                                    and

                                          Vicky

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    Message: 55841
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: postmodernism
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 02:20:05

    For a very illuminating "taste of the postmodern condition," take a look at
    the recently finished office building on the northwest corner of Scottsdale
    and Camelback. Definitely not minimalist.

    Message: 55842
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: JT/Heritage
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 05:58:17

    "MandateIII doesn't even recomend privatization". Well, that's good news, (I
    think) considering their past proposals. What, if anything, does Heritage
    recommend concerning USPS?

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    Message: 537
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Cliff the Mighty
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 08:53:33

    No - I'm still 'Way Below Normal' and can't be removed from this wonderful
    sig. No way - don't even think about it. Case in point - my 'Gary's buns'
    posts on the Old farts sig. Only a way below normal person would do that.
    Right? -=*) Annie the AssP (*=-

    Journey to which SIG:B

    Message: 55844
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: NEWS
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 13:38:59

          I was doing some work in my attic the other day and I came
    across an old newspaper from Chicago.  It is dated, Thursday, April 8,
    1943 and is the Chigaco Daily Tribune, The Worlds Greatest Newspaper.
          The feature story is, "How To Get The Most Out Of Food".  It
    goes on to say, (1) Let the family decide how the food ration points
    are to be spent.  Daughter Susan may wish to use some of her points
    for the canned peaches she dearly loves, and son Jim's plea for
    cherries for a pie should be heard.
          (2) Set a nite time to plan meals.  A guide like the menus which
    appear every week in the Tribune can be helpful.  It suggests ways of
    spending points for meats, cheeses and processed foods to achieve a
    balanced diet.
          It goes on to say, Don't spend any of your ration points for
    baby food unless you have a baby in the family.  Little fellows like
    this one (drawing of baby) shouldn't be deprived of their strained
    vegetables by babyless families who like to use low-point infant foods
    for soup.
          48 points will buy 14 cans of baby food (2 cans a day for the
    week), 14 points; a bottle of catsup, 10 points, a No. 2 can of salad
    fruit, 16 points, plus 2 pounds dried beans, 8 points.

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    Message: 55845
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: ROd
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 19:17:57

    Your messages have that familiar "ring" to them.

    Message: 55846
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 20:25:09

    I'll trade you a Reagan Revolution pin for your old Chicago Tribune.

    Message: 55847
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 20:25:43

    I haven't read the Postal Service chapter of "Mandate III," but I will get a
    copy next week and sum it up for you.  I know that Moe Biller (or is it
    Billar?) was not happy with the proposale.

    Message: 55848
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Chomsky
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 20:44:13

      One might note, incidentally, the remarkable "colonization"
    of sophisticated British intellectuals, who regard themselves
    as independent and critical but in fact react to US power and
    propaganda in a manner reminiscent of some of the more absurd
    Anglophile Indian intellectuals under the Empire.
      It is particularly important for people who hope to
    influence government policy to be clear about these matters.
    There is no point wasting time in patiently explaining to our
    leaders that the policies they pursue are inconsistent with
    the goals they profess; they know this well enough without
    our help.  Nor is there any reason to suppose that a
    different group of leaders would react in any essentially
    different way to the same institutional imperatives.  It is
    not a failure to understand a simple point so clear to us
    that regularly leads the political leadership to commit the
    same "error" over and over again.
      Returning to Kennan's prescriptions, what means must we use
    against our enemies who fall prey to the heresy that
    threatens our resources?  Kennan explains, in the same
    briefing to the Ambassadors:
         The final answer might be an unpleasant one, but...we
         should not hesitate before police repression by the
         local government.  This is not shameful since the
         Communists are essentially traitors...  It is better to
         have a strong regime in power than a liberal government
         if it is indulgent and relaxed and penetrated by
         Communists.
      Again, as policy becomes practice, the term "Communists"
    takes on its technical sense in American political discourse,
    referring to people who do not appreciate the sanctity of the
    Fifth Freedom.
      It is small wonder, then, that John F. Kennedy should have
    held that "governments of the civil-military type of El
    Salvador are the most effective in containing Communist
    penetration in Latin America."  This was after a military
    coup overthrew a liberal civilian government, with US
    approval, while the Kennedy Administration was organizing the
    basic structure of the military and paramilitary "death
    squads" that have massacred tens of thousands of civilians
    since, within the framework of the Alliance for Progress -
    in fact, the most lasting effect of that program apart from
    its contributions to dependent development in the US
    interest.
      The concept of "Communism" was further elaborated by a
    prestigious study group of the National Planning Association
    and the Woodrow Wilson Foundation, headed by William Yandell
    Elliot of Harvard, in 1955.  The study observed, quite
    accurately, that the primary threat of what they call
    "Communism" is the economic transformation of the Communist
    powers "in ways which reduce their willingness and ability
    to complement the industrial economies of the West."  This
    insightful comment provides a good operational definition of
    the term "Communism" as it is used in American political
    discourse.  If a government or popular movement is so evil as
    to undertake a course of action of this sort, it at once
    becomes an enemy.  It has joined the "monolithic and ruthless
    conspiracy" to steal what is ours, namely, their resources,
    and by definition, it has been taken over by the Russians -
    and we will act to ensure that it is, so that we may
    legitimately proceed to terminate this scandal by subversion
    or intervention, all with the noblest intent and in defense
    of the highest values.  "In other words," as the
    Argentinian-Mexican writer Gregorio Selser explains with a
    somewhat clearer vision, "the North American puritans meekly
    sacrifice themselves to care for the flock, gobbling any
    willful lamb that proved intractable to their protection."

    Message: 55851
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Todd,Cliff and Mike
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 22:25:45

    You three obviously misunderstood my point.  I was attacking the argument
    that the majority should rule.  This should not be the case when it violates
    a minority's rights, as in the firearm example (which none of you
    addressed).  A far better argument, such as the one Taranto is using, is
    that IGWT does not violate anyone's rights.  This would also be the case
    with a tax cut.  However, if the majority wanted to, for example, ban
    private property, this would be a clear violation of basic rights.
    There must be a balance struck between individual rights and majority will
    -- otherwise, we might as well accept the socialist argument of "the
    greatest good for the greatest number" and submission of the individual to
    the collective.

    Message: 55852
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: excerpts
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 22:30:29

    Here's a few interesting facts from a column in the December 5th Fortune
    magazine:
    o The Federal government would save about $60 billion a year if it abolished
    all existing anti-poverty programs and just gave poor people enough cash to
    bring them over the poverty line.
    o Federal spending on occupational safety is positively correlated with the
    number of workplace accidents.
    o Family income rose more rapidly for black than whites during the Reagan
    years.
    o Nexis searches repeatedly demonstrate that the media use "ideologue" as a
    synonym for "conservative."
    o New York State law says employers may not inquire into job applicants'
    past criminal behavior.

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     1:        What remains of the paper is in tatters.  Just touching it causes it
     2:to crumble.  There ae shreds all over my floor.  They are yellow and dusty.
     3:If I sent it to you, all you would receive is a lot of dust.
     4:end

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    Message: 538
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: JT Intellect Bore
    Subject: Last several
    Date: 12/02/88  Time: 19:42:57

    It just goes to show how little these people who claim judgement on
    Christians really know about Christianity.
    People like Rod and James *want* to create a platform of self-justification
    based on someones religion vs their own ideals.
    Just another way to escape their real intent.
    Hawley's "No, YOU go first" message is proof that he is not interested
    in seeing me or anyone else be civil...he's interested in taking a crap
    on someone's name and pointing at the glorious mess he made.

    Ann, as far as I know, Jesus was the SON of GOD at birth and had constant
    contact and a pretty fair advantage over us scum-dogs. All of us
    are basically the same creature inside...only through the blood of Christ
    does God see us otherwise. Having Jesus in one's heart doesn't suddenly
    make you just like him. Like the text says , it's a WALK through life.
    We fail, we stumble and we pick ourselves up again and keep going. If being
    a Christian made you immune to the world, it would be a waste of time here.
    So many people on these boards can't wait and drool at the thought of
    ripping into Christians for no other reason than to take a shit on the
    person in an attempt to make them equal to the shit-er. Then, when one of
    the Christians realizes his words mean nothing to them, he moves his
    attentions onward to others with an ear. In the meantime, those old
    shit-ers, still trying to justify shitting on someones name , keep poking
    at the Christian and sudenly find they are now screaming UNFAIR! because
    when the Christian gave them some of their own, they tasted their own Shit.

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    Subject:last

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     1:        Yea, but the difference is some of us have brains.
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