### Apollo BBS Archive - August 3, 1988

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    Message: 3970
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: OFGT
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 06:19:43

    Unfair! At 39 (again) I wouldn't qualify!

    Message: 3971
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Last....
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 07:21:44

    Celebrating your 39th birthday for the 20th time, huh?

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    Message: 3972
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Old fart GT
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 08:04:28

    That leaves Carol and I out - we would never admit to being over 40!
    hahahahahahah .

    I did not do it either! =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 3973
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: GT
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 08:07:34

    Actually that sounds like fun. Would get to see all the members that usually
    don't come to other GT's. =*--ANNIE the over 40ish--*= (a tad!)

    Message: 3974
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Get-Togethers
    Subject: Old Fart GT
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 09:11:05

            Lets make that 35 or over....

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 3975
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 15:30:52

    "I haven't forgotten what you did to me" is a death threat?

    Message: 3976
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Tom Slone 4 sale
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 17:28:00

            I am selling my Mod I (Tom R. Slone)...
    It has a voice synthesizer, clock, 3 1/2 hight TEAC drives in a single case.

    The above has of course the EI interface and 48K RAM.  The serial port is
    hard wired and all the connectors are gold plated.

    $500.00 firm!

    Anyone interested, leave me mail.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

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     1:        Does how many times one has been around the sun have anything to do
     2:with the GT being planned?  What does the number of times around the sun
     3:have to do with anything, anyway?
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    Message: 1713
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Up Yours
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 03:23:10

    Ok, you're on. I'd give you a three second head start, but you don't believe
    in time.

    Message: 1714
    Author: $ Rod Bias
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: =*--ANN--*=
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 04:12:57

    Is this the same =*--ANN--*= who 6-9 months ago asked, "What's a marco?"
         Rod Bias
              Rod Bias
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    Message: 1715
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Macro mania
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 07:23:50

       The last time I saw so much excitement was in a first year computer
    class, watching the students have so much fun with

    10 PRINT "HEY, LOOKIT!!!     ";
    20 GOTO 10

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    Message: 1716
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question ?
    Subject: Beau Dog
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 08:13:03

    How the heck did you know I almost hit those crazy kids on bikes? Actually,
    I could have strangled them with my own hands for doing such a crazy stunt
    as crossing the street on a green light at midnight and not even looking to
    see if the drivers were gonna stop or not. I heard a car behind me screech
    his tires trying to avoid the other kid. Was that you? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 1717
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Rod Bias
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 08:16:19

    I've learned alot - lots - a lot since being on Apollo about a computer
    thanks to all the helpers that volunteer. Now, if someone would just
    volunteer to help me with my printer to get it to underline!
    =*--ANN--*=  Ta ta. =*--ANN--*=  =*--ANNIE THE FANNY--*=  =*--ANNIE the
    ASSp--*=  Apollo  Mighty Sysop  Sandy Sysop  Bye. =*--ANN--*= See you later.
    =*--ANN--*=  See you. =*--ANN--*=

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     1:        The way that is accomplished is with a straight edge, a ruler will
     2:do nicely, and a very fine black ballpoint pen.
     3:        I learned that im Computer 101.
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    Message: 53450
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Joe Bottomless
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 01:26:58

    Thanks for the laffs -

    and yes,

    I *have* noticed!

    Carol->

    Message: 53451
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Rod/Gary Jones
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 02:05:44

    I agree.  A very good set of messages there.  I guess that what the
    government will probably do at some point in the future is to decriminalize
    marijuana and then hopefully legalize it.  Tax it the same as alcohol or
    tobacco.

    Many people will scream bloody murder but to me it's the only rational thing
    to do.

    Message: 53452
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Politics
    Subject: CLiff/Govt. debt
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 07:19:48

       Well, Reagan has five months to balance the federal budget, as he
    promised he would.
       Anyway, the Republicans can't harp too much on the debt run up by Dukakis
    with the Democrats retaliating by  bringing up the debt run up by the Reagan
    administration.

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    Message: 53453
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gary Jones
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 07:55:19

    I don't know who you are, but I sure hope you stay around! Those were
    very good posts. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 53454
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/for sale
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 07:56:30

    Are you still selling that microwave? Mine just went out and I need one. How
    big is it? I'm really interested! =*--ANN--*=
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     1:        I gave a printout of Jones' article to a Marijuana County Adult
     2:Probation Officer this afternoon.
     3:end

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    Message: 53455
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Sandy/#53427
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 08:00:47

    A lot of truth in that post Sandy girl. =*--ANN--*=
    P.S. speaking of such things - it always brings to mind an article I read
    not too long ago about the light bulb. It stated that one of Edison's light
    bulbs are still burning (24 hour a day) after all these years! Goes to show
    you what big business can do to a good thing!

    Message: 53456
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Drugs
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 09:43:52

    Here are some of my ideas on how this country could legalize drugs.

    Marijuana: It should be totally legalized. The government could sell
    their own at liquor stores or Tobacco shops. It would be guaranteed to
    be pure and the best. The price could be the same as a pack of
    cigarettes with like taxes. Farmers (in this country for a change)
    could grow it and make the profit. It could be smoked in public where
    liquor is allowed legally. No smoking and driving! People could grow it
    in their yards for personal use - to just about the extent they can
    make their own beer and wine at home. No selling it! The legal age for
    usage should be the same as for liquor.

    Heroin: This too should be legalized, but in a different way. First of
    all, it should become a medical tool that can be used by doctors the
    same way Morphine is used today. It should be given to known addicts
    and even be free to them that can't afford to pay. This would be given
    in Controlled Clinics in every major city. Here again, our farmers
    could grow it and make the profits and it also would be guaranteed to
    be pure! If this was done, one of the stipulations would be - only
    enough to sustain his habit -not extras!  Along with this, a
    rehabilitation program could be provided and encouraged for the addict.
    Donations would come from the populace also to help ease the tax burden
    of said clinics. I do not think this substance should be handed out
    across the counter of a local store! You can be hooked for life --

    Message: 53457
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cont.
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 09:45:16

    Cont.
    after just one shot of the stuff. I know it would still keep the black
    market open for Heroin to a degree, but the profit would be watered
    down considerably and most of the addicts at this time, would probably
    go to the clinics instead of stealing. Even if it cut the drug crimes
    in half, that is a start anyway. Another stipulation - no home grown
    stuff at all and of course, no driving while under the influence, with
    very stiff penalties to those that do. The police could be provided
    with test equipment to check for drugs as will as alcohol at the time
    you are stopped.

    Cocaine: Right now it is the glamour drug and the same for Heroin
    should apply and it might take some of the glamour out of it! I do
    believe it is available for medical purposes already!

    Misc.

    Opium: I don't think we have a major problem with that. I think we
    might have learned from China what that can do to a country!

    LSD: Ditto - the 60s!

    The Mushrooms: I think should be totally legal! I don't think there
    will ever be a problem there. We should be allowed to ... Cont.

    Message: 53458
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cont.
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 09:46:31

    Cont.
    grow it and use it at will. If it catches on as a major problem, then
    do something about it.

    Pills: The doctors are doing a pretty good job of supplying us legally
    with all sorts of drugs. I really don't know too much about that
    subject's supply & demand or how many addicts there are. It seems that
    Heroin, Cocaine and Marijuana are the major problems at this time.

    I do not profess that these are the answers to the drug problem. But if
    we incorporated all or part of my suggestions, it would help. Nothing
    seems to be working now. If you look through out history you will see
    that when mankind is deprived of something - that's when he wants it
    the most and he usually gets it one way or the other! Why not try
    something new? At least legalize it to the doctors for medical
    purposes! (Heroin)
    Does anyone else have some solutions? Comments?

    Message: 53459
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Commercial
    Subject: SANYO Deal!
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 12:05:59

    The Sanyo 16 + Is a HIGH quality, full PC/XT compatible desktop computer.
    On Sale for the final days of Gemini Computer Inc.
    The basic "BOX" consists of:
         * 512K RAM upgradable on mother board to 640K Ram
         * TEAC 360K floppy drive (one)
         * 8MHz clock for high speed applications (switchable to 4.77 MHz)
         * Serial Port
         * Parallel Printer Port
         * Comes with MS-DOS and GW BASIC
         * 84 key detachable Keyboard

         FCC and UL approved!
         Major BRAND NAME  *=* SANYO *=*

         Price $499.00

         Options:
                   Video Adapters, Mono, Herc, CGA, EGA..... etc.
                   Monitors, Mono, Color.....  etc.
                   Hard drive 20 meg grade "A" with contoller $325.00
                   Second 360K Teac floppy
                             and more..........
    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53460
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Commercial
    Subject: Mouse/Rat pads
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 12:56:59

    We have a number of Mouse and Rat Pads left....
    from small 8X10 all the way up too 15X19 (large) pads.
    With the low clearance prices, the most costly pad is only $14.95.
    I still have a good selection of sizes and colors, but hurry in!

    (This is my last month)  I promise!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53461
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod on Drugs
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 16:30:11

    Actually, I could be almost ALL for legalizing drugs.
    If things went smoothly, you'd start to see alarming death ratios for
    the first decade. After that, a cooling down period perhaps, the moderate
    and part-timers would be the last of the weak strain of humanity that sees
    it necessary to pollute their bodies.
    It would be nice to see all the hard-core ("I'll rob you blind for a fix")
    types die-off in a silly permanent-drug uphoric grin during a spinning
    round with the needle. Just think of the benefits!

    Let 'em kill themselves off and perhaps we'd have less crowding and
    nicer folks -albeit level headed ones- to work with.

     -Mike

    Message: 53462
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 17:07:59

    What makes you think that that would happen?  The evidence from Holland and
    Alaska doesn't support you.  Both of those places have a lower percentage of
    regular marijuana users than the general population of the U.S. even though
    marijuana is cheaply and easily available in both places with little fear
    of punishment.
       Also, most illegal drug users are not killed off by them.  There are 5-6
    million cocaine users, for example, yet only a few hundred cocaine related
    deaths per year.  There are no known cases of death due to marijuana use.
    On the other hand, alcohol is implicated in thousands of deaths per year.

    If drugs were legalized, would YOU run out and start using them?  If not,
    what makes you think everyone else would? Or are you just an elitist?

    Message: 53463
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last/Jim
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 17:20:39

            "There are no known cases of death due to marijuana use"....
    Where oh where do you dig up your facts?  I personaly know of a death due to
    the use of MARIJUANA!!!  And you think there are only a few hundred deaths
    per year from cocaine..????  is that world wide, or just in your
    neighborhood?

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53464
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/big business
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 17:40:12

    Another of your senseless and naive posts about big business "ruining a good
    thing." I won't discount the possibility that one of Edison's original light
    bulbs is still burning, but I doubt you would accept the tradeoff of a
    nearly useless light output for a long filament life. Why not just leave the
    bulbs in your house illuminated all the time? They'd last much longer, and
    you'd emerge victorious over the greedy light bulb companies. Of course,
    then you'd have to wage war on the utility companies.

    Message: 53465
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 53463
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 19:05:22

    By "death due to marijuana" I am not counting deaths due to stupidity (i.e.
    doing dangerous things under the influence).  There are no known cases of
    marijuana itself causing someone's death.  The number of cocaine deaths was
    for the entire United States.  Here are the figures (from the National
    Institute on Drug Abuse's Drug Abuse Warning Network):
       1984:  604 (295 ages up to 29)
       1985:  643 (285 ages up to 29)
    And not all of those deaths are directly attributable to cocaine, those
    include suicides and accidental deaths of people who had cocaine in their
    bodies.  Some of them also had other drugs in their bodies, so their deaths
    may have been attributable to the other drugs.
       The figure I gave for number of cocaine users (5-6 million) was for 1984
    and is from the President's Commission on Organized Crime (1986).

    Message: 53466
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Death?
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 19:28:09

            Oh, I see, Death under the influence of alcohol counts, but ...
    Death while under the influence of Maharaja does not count because it was
    "stupid" ?????   A Maharaja user never died of cancer I suppose.
    Then you have the people who have gotten Rat Poison rolled in with the
    weed.   Yes, perfectly safe!
            I do believe it should be made legal, at least it would be cleaner
    and a little safer....  Just as safe as regular tobbaco to the smoker.
    The only problem I see.... Is drunk drivers kill thousands of innocent
    people, but now there will be "Pot Heads" to worry about.
            I think we need some hi tec cars that will be able to determine
    if the driver is sober enough to drive it, maybe a built in breathalizer!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 53467
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Ann/Microwave
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 20:17:35

            It wasn't me who was selling the microwave, it was Dan Deacon.  The
    Warehouse on 29th St. & Washington usually has some good bargains.

    Message: 53468
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Hawley
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 20:18:24

            But if it were legal then how would you earn your money?

    Message: 53469
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Jones
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 20:19:17

            I gave a printout of Jones' article to a Marijuana County Adult
    Probation Officer this afternoon.

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     1:        Your article on ways to legalize the different drugs was very good.
     2:I'd like to see it tried.  I would like to give my friend at the Probation
     3:department a copy of your post and every post that deals with drugs.
     4:                                Rod
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     1:        But the heroin addicts are people too, perhaps many of them were
     2:kicked in the head by their parents and severely abused during their
     3:childhood or maybe some of them are very sensitive people who cannot cope
     4:with a ruthless world, a world that is chock full of negative and demeaning
     5:thoughts.  I think a lot of substance abusers are committing suicide and
     6:they know it.  But what the hay, to lose a rough and tumble world is no big
     7:thing, it's like a release from the pain society inflicts upon its people
     8:and who needs everyday pain.
     9:        The typical working class person is an economic slave and many have
    10:bosses who are hard to work around.  I recently read that many heart attacks
    11:are caused by the stresses from not being your own boss, having to work at
    12:someone else's schedule all the time.  Many do just that for 30-40 years at
    13:a time.  But not to worry, they get two weeks off during the summer which
    14:happens to be just enough time to paint the ole house.
    15:                                Be kind,
    16:                                        Rod
    17:end

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     1:        Thanks for the excellent posts.
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    Message: 56
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Steven Wild-Pussy
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 02:06:59

    But Ann always plays the 'dumb blonde' role.  Perhaps she's just a token
    female user.

    Message: 57
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Last
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 07:25:07

       Ann's a token female user?   Wow!  How many tokens do I get for a dollar?

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    Message: 58
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Alan
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 08:19:41

    Hey honey - for you I'll make a deal - you get 20 tokens for a dollar!
    =*--ANNIE the Token female--*=

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     1:        I've been getting 35 tokens for a dollar from Ann (plus lots of
     2:fringe benefits to boot).
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    Message: 1485
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: You Twit!
    Subject: story ....
    Date: 08/03/88  Time: 15:05:09

            ..... Your fair maiden can be found over yonder." All heads turn
    yonder. "She is being held captive by the mean, vicious, tempermental Peter
    Cervelli and his cruel, vial, evil assistants Rod W. and Jim L. She can be
    found in the highest tower of the biggest castle across the largest river on
    the fartherest side of town."
            "O-o-o-o-o!" says the quest seekers.
            "Ah-Ha!" replies Dean.
            "Hurry," cautions the city sewer sanitation man. "Your fair maiden
    is being tortured daily. She is being forced to stuff ice cream containers
    while being told that Dean does not exist by Rod and Jim. You may use my
    city sewer system, if you like. Doing so will save precious time."
            "Well, quest seekers ....... let us be on our way!" shouts Dean.
            "What about my van?" askes James.
            "Why should one princess rescue another?" askes Carol.
            "I love getting my feet dirty!" remarks Ann.
            "I'm afraid of the dark." quivers Cliff.
            "I can run faster than you!" boasts Nick to Ann
            "What are we going to do, I forgot." inquires Sandy.
      After being instructed about which sewer tunnels to take the quest seekers
    shimmy down the man hole into the dark, humid, musty smelling sewer system.
    They did not travel very far when they came across ......