### Apollo BBS Archive - March 14, 1989

    Mail from James Taranto
    Date: 03/13/89  Time: 18:16:22

    The deposition went fine.  I think I'll win.
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     1:        I imagine that your lawsuit is being followed by many people all
     2:over the nation.  It's an important case.  -Rod

    Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 04:11:36

    James was considering buying a Taurus. I don't know if he ever did get it.

    JT is just warming up.
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     1:        Hawley did buy a 9mm.  I phoned him but I guess he is still in Costa
     2:Rica.  See you.

    Mail from Ann Oudin
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 07:38:24

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    I like your idea about trivia - answering your own questions. Ha ha.
    Re: Daryl - I figured him marrying religion was the answer. Little does he
    know he has taken on the biggest burden there is - not belief in God, but a
    religion that makes the 'way' stright and narrow and stiffling to one's
    life. I remember so vividly years ago when I belong to the Catholic church
    how the nuns and priests would tell you the 'way' it was. They discribed
    hell and pergatory and made us shake in our boots! How they knew what those
    were like, we never ever gave it a thought. Also, when we asked the classic
    question - "If someone were stranded on an island all their life and never
    heard about Jesus, would they still go to Heaven if they were good"? The
    answer was - 'they were lost for eternity'! And we believed this and felt so
    sorry for those fictitious people. I remember asking a Lutheran pastor if
    animals went to Heaven and his answer was no and I believed him too! All the
    years that I called myself a Christian, I felt constantly guilty! Why Daryl
    wants to take something like this up in life is beyond me. He'll never feel
    any kind of freedom again.
    Re: JT not attacking us - he did me in private mail. I also wrote him a note
    asking him (just like I did you) if he could at this time log on a little
    more - he came back and said - "What the hell do you think I'm going to do?
    Use a pay phone?" What a Mr. Nice guy he is! I can always count on him to be
    civil. Ha!! I do notice that when there is a subject he is attacking, he
    logs on quite a bit. Thanks to your advice about a year ago, I don't let him
    get to me anymore - I usually come back with some 'nastiness' of my own.
    See you later. -=*) ANN (*=-
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     1:        Without the fire we would never become good writers.  I would and
     2:appreciate more, fire from an intelligent person than from say someone like
     3:Carter or several other loonies on this board.  JT has a way about him that
     4:I appreciate.           -Rod

    Mail from Ann Oudin
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 08:03:04

    Loved you alias posts - but won't every body know your Dobbs? Didn't you
    send a letter to the editor of the Republic once under that name and told us
    all to read it?
    Since you have confessed to me - I will confess to you - I AM Afro Poet!
    Didn't you ever notice that Afro always writes to you and is on your side?
    He chides JT too. Ha. I intend to use him again in the future - especially
    when they come down on you so hard. I think though, he is going to become a
    little more sophisticated in the future. Less jive talk - more cutting! Ha.
    Not so nice! Your right - this IS fun. -=*) ANN (*=-
    P.S. Sorry I didn't confess before - was afraid you wouldn't approve.
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     1:        Hi Afro.  Far out and thanks.  You sure write good.  Really.

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    Message: 5304
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Believe it or not!
    Subject: Rare Find
    Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:36:48

    My "No guns in the house" when I was a kid father today picked
    up (purchased) a very hard to find Colt "Pocket .380".

    Q: WHy the heck don't they make guns that balance that well anymore?

    Very nice.

    Message: 5305
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 16:48:55

            Has he shot it yet?
            How does it handle ........?

    Message: 5306
    Author: $ Cliff Winters
    Category: Fire'arms
    Subject: Reloads
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:18:35

            Just dropped in to clear up a loose string here...  I no longer do
    reloads or work on guns.

            Thank You   Cliff

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    Message: 121
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Bit Bucket Talk
    Subject: last
    Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:26:12

    Yeah, the weenie contacted a friend of mine and then he called
    here. Don't bother with him. He's full of gas.

    Message: 122
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Hardware Not Listed
    Subject: Advice etc etc
    Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:28:00

    Since we have a stubborn child throwing in the towel and
    snivelling publicly about it, I thought I might take this
    moment to say that I'll help with advice and
    repairs where and when I can. Cliff thinks he's busy.
    I'm never too busy to help friends.

            Mike

    Message: 123
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: Mike
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 16:57:02

            I wish you luck on helping all your friends out there
    in computer land.

                            Sandy SySop

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    Message: 57531
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: David Hsu
    Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:17:18

    RE: Legalizing crime.

    Why eat? You'll just get hungry again.

    Message: 57532
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/57474
    Date: 03/13/89  Time: 23:11:47

    Rod, do YOU understand that the criminal element that pervades the
    trafficking of both child pornography and illegal drugs, profits upon the
    illegality of both? Make drugs illegal, and the criminals will pool their
    money into something more profitable. And you are being half-cocked if you
    wish to legalize one to eliminate crime, and not the other. Ethically, you
    should be for the legalization of both, or the status quo. And you say that
    drug abuse is a victimless crime, eh? Tell that to the kid that is lying
    dead in the gutter as the result of some bad dope he bought from the
    neighborhood pusher. Yeah, victimless crime, right. There is one victim: THE
    USER.

    Message: 57533
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 57475/Rod
    Date: 03/13/89  Time: 23:16:19

    If the judge trying my case is kcufed up on cocaine or any other illegal
    drug, I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT. Any officer of the law who willfully uses
    drugs, either on or off duty, is a DAMN HYPOCRITE, and is no better than any
    criminal on the street in my eyes. Furthermore, if that person is going to
    his taxpayer-paid job copping a buzz, then I want his butt OFF THE FORCE. To
    Protect and To Serve does not mean To Protect (The Stash) and Serve (Your
    Fellow Officers).

    Message: 57534
    Author: Stuart Dobbs   NOTE: *** This is me. ***
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 00:45:37

    Hey fellow.  You ain't never gonna stop them cops from catching a buzz.  I
    don't care who they hire, human is human.  Same for judges and the like and
    you ain't never gonna know about it cept once in a while, maybe.  There is
    thousands of judges and cops in this country.  Do you think they are all
    honest and don't by future freeway land while laughing at the geeks who come
    before them without a pot?
    When you gonna wake up, the coffees perkin.  Every human is dishonest to a
    degree.  Them big money boys don't even take the time to consider us yokels.
    All they wants is that power and glory they gets from putting us in the
    slammer and taking our land and possessions.  Praise Dobbs.

    Message: 57535
    Author: Rick Shaw
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Jesus on drugs
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 03:30:29

    He drank wine, didn't he?

    Message: 57536
    Author: Rick Shaw
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Williams/Hsu
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 03:34:02

    I think he was serious.  Sounds like a Libertarian.

    Message: 57537
    Author: David Hsu
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Williams
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 03:52:34

    You misunderstand me.  I'm talking about letting everyone OUT of prison.
    However, your suggestion of putting everyone in prison is well taken, since
    the differences between the two conditions are negligible.
    As far as the virtue of judges and policemen, it is my considered opinion
    that all officials, with the exception of certain petty bureaucrats in the
    U.S. Department of Labor, are clearly either immoral stooges of the
    military-industrial tool-complex, or have secret vices beyond the ken of any
    of us, save perhaps Merle Haggard.

    Yes, I'm a Libertarian and proud of it.

    Message: 57538
    Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
    Category: My Dinner with...
    Subject: Cliffie
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 07:06:23

    Hey...........everyone.........

    Big deal, but this is my 100th logon, and where's............Cliffie?

    C'mon, Cliff, we all love you!  C'mon back!

    Sandy...........we love you too, but it's not the same......!

    See Y'aa..............
    Jeannie

    Message: 57539
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gee...
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 11:27:14

    Stuart, uh Rick, uh I mean ROD... You most certainly are on a roll, aren't
    you? Well, when you're finished "rolling" it, turn off your computer, smoke
    it, and hush.

    Wine was not intended to be used as a means for getting intoxicated in those
    days. The Bible shuns drunkenness (1 Cor 5:11, among others). Even you
    should know that, since you claim to be an ex-Bible scholar. I tend to doubt
    that more and more each day.

    Message: 57540
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 57538/Jeannie
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 11:29:04

    Boy, I tell you, with all that stink he raised about my "tantrums," he most
    certainly better not be sulking. *grin* *wink*

    Message: 57541
    Author: $ Steve MacGregor
    Category: In search of
    Subject: Baseball Cap
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 14:11:08

      Anyone know where I can get ahold of a Los Angeles Raiders baseball cap,
    as mentioned in #57469?  None of the stores around here have them.

         =========  Pascal  #(O,~)#  Wink!  MacProgrammer  =========

    Message: 57542
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Baseball Cap
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 14:33:19

    How about Los Angeles?

    Message: 57543
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Burkhart/57522
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 14:37:48

    I'm puzzled as to why the media hasn't made a bigger deal out of the van
    bombing than it has.  I expected to see media hysteria, or at least more
    attention than is given now.

    On a side note - I truly believe we should pack up all Iranian students and
    ship them back home.

    Message: 57544
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 17:09:37

            It is because the terrorists did not pelt the van with bullets.
    Remember, taking our weapons away from us is the "IN" thing in American
    these days. How can the anti-gun movement use a bombing?  tsk, tsk.

    Message: 57545
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: David Hsu
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 18:36:39

    I assume everyone has already figured this out, but in case you haven't, he
    is actually Peter Cervelli.

    Message: 57546
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/Rick/Stu etc.
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:02:42

            You are way off base, bub.  I am neither Rick or any of those others
    you mentioned.  But I am a Libertarian.

    Message: 57547
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: David
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:03:02

            Good post, see last.
    -Rod

    Message: 57548
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/1 of 2 1/4
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:04:54

    Daryl, you still do not understand.  Child pornography is a serious
    crime that involves a victim.  That's right, it is someone hurting
    another.  Pot, heroin, cocaine, magic mushrooms and Peyote are from the
    plant kingdom.  Get this.  It is the individuals right to take any of
    these substances.  In fact it is their right to take Cyanide if they so
    desire.  Of course they would be violating others rights if they took
    poison while speeding down a freeway at 80.  People do not have the
    right to be foolish where it involves freedoms of others.  But, dammit,
    you cannot usurp the rights of others in regards to what they put into
    their bodies.  Although it is done, it is in direct violation of an
    individuals freedom.  But that just happens to be the type of world we
    now live in.  Ignorance is king.
          I hope you can see the difference between herbal intake and
    using a child to produce explicit sexual material.
          You mention a kid who is in the gutter, dead from too much dope.
    Well, I can see those children in the gutter, dead from being run over
    by an automobile but deaths due to drug over-usage is far down on
    the scale of reality.  It is rare.  It would be easier for a child to
    OD on the booze in his fathers liquor cabinet than die from pot or
    cocaine.

    Message: 57549
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/ 2 of 2 1/4
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:05:47

          But if you want to protect the kids from bad dope then push for
    legalization.  There would be no bad dope.  It would all be pure.
    By the way, what is 'bad dope' and how does one go about dying from
    it?  Well, sure if someone is foolish enough to stick needles into
    their veins and squeeze the 'bulb' then I guess a lot could happen,
    including infections.  But anyone who is idiot enough to allow
    substances to bypass all bodily defenses by putting things directly
    into their blood stream should be educated.  They should be given or
    sold clean needles.  They should be helped out of their dilemma but
    not with prison or jail but with an education.
          Many an anti-drug law were drawn up by legislators drinking
    cocktails.  I'm sure they couldn't discern the difference in the land
    where ignorance is king.
          Many people who have little self-worth shoot the harder
    substances such as heroin.  The reason they have little self-worth to
    begin with is the way our society is set up.  Some children are born
    with little intelligence compared to others.  They grow up as slow
    achievers and very little is offered to them in the way of a decent
    livelihood or home.  They are set upon by the sharks of this world.
    They never get ahead.  They are probably more efficient at

    Message: 57550
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/ 1/4
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:06:33

    shop-lifting and other criminal type behavior as minimum wages are
    hardly enough to support them, their wives or children.  Society
    offers little to these people of low intelligence.  There are people
    who go all through school and do not know how to read, write or add.
    The school just wanted to get rid of them.  If our teachers are not
    intelligent then who is?
          We have a lot of growing up to do and in the meantime, the
    bigots will continue to have a lot of say in this world.  Prisons will
    remain full and murder, rape and smog will get worse.  -Rod

    Message: 57551
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/wine
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 20:03:32

    Daryl, you say that wine was not intended to be used as a means for
    getting intoxicated in the days of 2000 years ago.  You make me
    laugh.
          So what you are saying is that our ancestors of 2000 years ago
    were somehow more intelligent and enlightened.  Sure, yea.  You doubt
    the people became intoxicated at wedding feasts or when problems
    beyond their control arose?  They just sat down and had a biblical
    conversation with God.  They didn't get drunk.  Are you serious?  You
    go on to say that in 1 Cor. 5:11 it says The Bible shuns drunkenness.
    Well, that's good enough for me and everyone else.  (grin)  It's
    simply amazing how everyone followed the bible 2000 years ago just the
    same as they do today.  I bet they got a real thrill from Mark and the
    others not to forget Paul.  People back then were so smart that they
    would wait till Monday to pull their beasts of burden, who had fallen
    into a pit on a Sunday, to safety.  You are hilariously funny today.
    That particular civilization was corrupt to the max, bout' like it is
    today.  Cept' they didn't have Libertarians back then.  -Rod

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    Message: 206
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Shit-Chat
    Subject: Taxes
    Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:34:16

    Suck.

    But think of it this way;

    Would you rather pay taxes and be able to earn a living or
    not pay taxes and fight for food ?

    Message: 207
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Mike on taxes
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 07:54:47

    I did not understand your question. If we didn't have taxes or much lower
    ones - why would we have to fight for food? Please explain. -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 208
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: lasts
    Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:13:38

            Could I go to another planet, please?  Hey, what's the big idea of
    waking this SIG up?  Huh?  Hey, we (I) could post a Christian Bible verse
    each day and make comments about it?
            Yesterday I found a 1941 edition of a military bible.  It is divided
    into dated sections, one for each day of the year.  The way it is worded,
    because each section is headed by a comment from the military, it just wants
    one to be a good little Christian killer and that is all.  Kill for your
    master and be rewarded with eternal heaven.  Sounds fun, eh?  Kill, kill,
    kill, kill, kill for your master. Could be a song.
            "I'll kill fo' my Master if in I get Heaven, Lordy, Lordy, Lord.
              I wanna Kill, kill, kill,
             My Massa wants me to kill, God tol' me to kill, gotta kill" -Rod

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