### Apollo BBS Archive - December 12, 1988

    $tatus Club Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 4911
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Believe it or not!
    Subject: Backups!
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 20:08:30

            Yup, I backed up the Apollo hard drive again tonight.....
    Took 9 min and 38 sec for 295 files (thats 9959424 BYTES)

    Is this boring everyone?

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 4912
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: the RGB SIG....
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 20:19:24

            I don't know why the keen interest in the RGB SIG has everyone
    wanting in.   Right now I have Rod trapped in there and we are arguing
    religion.  RGB stands for "Rod, God & Bob".   (I thought everyone knew that)
    I suppose if you really want in, I can add it to your profile, but
    understand that Rod uses some pretty strong languge in a very crude way.
    If you call that "Elite" then you have a funny idea of what to be "Elite"
    is.  Personaly I prefer the CHRistan SIG, the Christians there are much more
    civil, and I find it a warm and friendly place.

    *=* In God We Love *=*

    Message: 4913
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Believe it or not!
    Subject: Backups/Cliff
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 21:39:38

    No, It is good to know that you are doing it, and it is interesting to see
    how long it takes you.
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    Message: 4914
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/RGB SIG/ALL
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 21:42:35

    So does that mean that ROD and GOD and BOB are all members of that SIG?
    Well I could ask ROD for a reference, I don't know who BOB is and well, GOD,
    I don't know his phone number....
    I would like access...  So it is like the COS SIG but the only person to
    yell at is Rod?

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    P.S. Sure, I'll have a go at it!

    Message: 4915
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ok, Here He Comes!
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 22:03:58

    Well, not all of us knew what  stood for. Until just now, all I knew
    about it was three letters with no board name extension, and lots of hush-
    hush talk about it. What would you think? I had no idea it was an "atheists"
    board.

    Message: 4916
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 05:07:54

    It's not an atheist board really.  It would be if Cliff and Sandy didn't
    post...

    Message: 4917
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Sandy
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 06:11:57

    Sansy, I have been praying, and it apparently worked, since we have the CHR
    SIG back again. (Maybe you were praying too?)

    Message: 4918
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff/RGB
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 06:13:42

    After your explanation, thank you very much for including me out!

    Message: 4919
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff - oh yes ...
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 08:19:23

    .... I definitely WANT on that sig. Can I expect $ta? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 4920
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: last?
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 10:51:49

            What SIG Ann?   The CHR or the RGB?

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 4921
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Last....
    Subject: RCB
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 15:33:40

    I WANT in
                   Shooooot then all RTALPH !!!!!

    Message: 4922
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 17:23:17

            Actually, Paul, my method was more to the tune of hitting
    Cliff over the head with a jar of mustard until he re-instated the
    CHRistian Sig.
            I will admit that prayer is less painfull.
    Right, Cliff?

    Message: 4923
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 19:13:18

    I want to be on the RGB SIG if I don't have to give anything else up to get
    on.

    Message: 4924
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: RGB
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 20:13:53

            Cliff said that those who wanted on the RGB SIG would have to get
    four $tatus users to vouch for them.  Well, since its inception there have
    only been three $tatus users.  Sorta like impossible, eh.

    Creative Corner Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2000
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Poetry
    Subject: I sang..
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 22:59:45

    Midnight pizza

    Plastic pizza whatta drag
    rubber cheese and melted crust
    formed a pool of anchovie slag.

    When I called they promised when
    got here tomorrow at my door
    rubber checks written again.

    Living it up with plastic pizza,
    forgot to tip the miserable dork,
    only to find it was a dyke named Lisa.

    She rammed the box in my chest
    slammed the door and went away
    I huffed and puffed and took a rest.

    Plastic pizza began to bubble
    Gangrene and oily, amphorous at best,
    a regular witche's brew , gastric trouble.

    And then we ate it with a chainsaw
                                       This is why we don't post poetry.

    Message: 2001
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Poetry
    Subject: Oneinthemorning
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 08:56:27

    I sit alone
    Thinking
    She lays alone
    Dreaming
    I think to myself
    Is this what I want?
    Am I happy?
    She dreams
    Of handsome knights
    And dashing gentlemen
    I look down
    From my chair
    And sigh
    She turns over
    In her bed
    And sighs
    And then I wonder
    Just who is dreaming?

    Message: 2002
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Review/Critique
    Subject: Poem/last
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 17:26:57

            Isn't it just like a male poet having the man think and the
    woman dream ........

    The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2426
    Author: $ Chris Neal
    Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
    Subject: Joke (saying)
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 21:44:22

    Recently heard on an answering machine...

    Mike Abortion Clinic,

    Now that I think of it, I would say that 99.9% of you won't like this one.

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    Message: 2427
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Chris/Last
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 22:07:02

    But this is the board for that kind of tasteless, tacky, offensive material.
    There is no censorship here. Let it fly!

    Message: 2428
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: last...
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 23:26:58

    But I think he did let it fly!  that was it!

    What do you mean "Tasteless"?     (ha ha ha)

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 2429
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 12:22:17

    Every day you stay out of work will make it that much harder to go back to
    work.  The savings account is getting smaller and smaller...

    Message: 2430
    Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
    Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
    Subject: I'm backkkkkkkkk..
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 16:22:38

    Q: Why are there women?
    A: Because sheep can't cook.

    Q: What's the first thing a sorority girl does in the morning?
    A: Introduce herself.

    Q: What's the second thing?
    A: She goes home.

    Q: How many Yuppies does it take to screw in a light bulb?
    A: Silly, Yuppies screw in hot tubs.

    Q:  Why do women have periods?
    A:  Because they deserve it.

    Q:  Why are there men?
    A:  Because God couldn't get her vibrator to mow the lawn

    Message: 2432
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: Chris Neal
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 19:15:34

    "Mike abortion clinic"???  That makes no sense.

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 55976
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: CHR$
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 14:30:58

    You're right; it was getting pretty dead.  No, I don't have any big ideas.
    It's funny how it goes.  Some boards make it big and some don't.  What works
    well on one BBS will fall flat on another.

    Message: 55977
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 14:34:58

    Re:  "a large factor in my recent renewal of my $tatus"

    It probably was *the* reason I became $tatus after waiting all this time.  I
    vote to bring it back.

    Message: 55978
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 14:37:43

    I probably missed it somewhere, but what does "RGB" stand for?

    Message: 55979
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Cliff
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 14:41:32

    Well, just to show you what kind of guy I am, I will give a good reference
    for Ann to become a member of the RGB Sig.  (I still don't know what RGB
    is).  Hey Ann, if it turns out to be something good will you vouch for me?

    Message: 55980
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Chomsky
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 15:13:23

      The memoranda of the National Security Council and other
    government documents in subsequent years often closely follow
    the recommendations of the wartime planners, not
    surprisingly, since the same interests were represented,
    often the same people.  They also accord with Kennan's
    principles.  For example, NSC 48/1 in December 1949 states
    that "While scrupulously avoiding assumption of
    responsibility for raising Asiatic living standards, it is to
    the U.S. interest to promote the ability of these countries
    to maintain...the economic conditions prerequisite to
    political stability."  Thus in accordance with Kennan's
    precepts, we should not be "hampered by idealistic slogans"
    about "the raising of the living standards," though economic
    aid may be in order when we have something to gain by it.
      It is not, of course, proposed that we should assist - or
    even permit - the nationalist movement of Vietnam to achieve
    economic health and political stability; on the contrary, a
    State Department Policy Statement of September 1948 had
    explained that it is "an unpleasant fact" that "Communist
    Ho Chi Minh is the strongest and perhaps the ablest figure in
    Indochina and that any suggested solution which excludes him
    is an expedient of uncertain outcome," a serious problem,
    since plainly we must seek to exclude him in pursuit of the
    Fifth Freedom.  Political stability under his leadership was
    not what was contemplated.  Rather, "stability" is a code
    word for obedience.  Those familiar with the peculiar
    terminology of US ideological discourse will understand that
    it is no contradiction when James Chase, editor of *Foreign
    Affairs*, cites "our efforts to destabilize a freely elected
    Marxist government in Chile" as an illustration of the
    efforts of Nixon-Kissinger *Realpolitik* "to seek
    stability."  Destabilization in the interest of stability
    makes perfect sense in the age of Orwell.  The problem, when
    noted, is placed under the rubric of "irony" in mainstream
    commentary, including much scholarship.
      NSC 48/1 proceeds to develop the conventional explanation
    found in secret documents of the period for US participation
    in the French war against Indochina, then the US takeover of
    that war.  The reasoning, which extends directly to Latin
    America, merits attention.  Despite references by Eisenhower
    and others to Vietnam's resources, Indochina was not of major
    concern in itself.  Rather, its importance derives from the
    context of the domino theory.  This theory has two versions.
    One, invoked when there is a need to frighten the public,
    warns that if we don't stop them there, they'll land in
    California and take all we have.  As expressed by President
    Lyndon Johnson at the height of US aggression in Vietnam:
         There are 3 billion people in the world and we have only
         200 million of them.  We are outnumbered 15 to one.  If
         might did make right they would sweep over the United
         States and take what we have.  We have what they want.
      "If we are going to have visits from any aggressors or any
    enemies," Johnson said in a speech in Alaska, "I would rather
    have that aggression take place out 10,000 miles from here
    than take place here in Anchorage." referring to the
    aggression of the Vietnamese against US forces in Vietnam.
    Therefore, as he had warned 20 years earlier, we must
    maintain our military strength, particularly air power:
    "without superior air power America is a bound and throttled
    giant; impotent and easy prey to any yellow dwarf with a
    pocket knife."
      The sense that we will be "a pitiful, helpless giant"
    unless we act forthrightly in defense against the overwhelming
    power of our Third World adversaries, in the terms used later
    by President Nixon in announcing the invasion of Cambodia, is
    a common refrain in US political discourse, reminiscent of a
    rich and spoiled child who whines that he does not have
    *everything* - though to render the image more accurate, we
    should place a squadron of storm troopers at the child's
    command.

    Message: 55983
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/CHRSIG
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 06:07:00

    Thank you, and God bless you and yours.
    OK, fellow Christians, let us let a word to the wise be sufficient. Use it
    or lose it! All of us who have enjoyed the haven of the Christian SIG owe
    Cliff a word of thanks for it's restoration.

    Message: 55984
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/RGB
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 08:15:54

    I vouch for Bob and he vouches for me - who else can we ask? I can't found
    out who the members are - except James Hawley admits to being in it. Will
    you vouch for me and Bob James? Cliff - tell us at least what RGB stands
    for! Read Garbage? Rithmatic, Geography and Botany? Rightous, garbled Bible
    study? Red, green and Blue? What??? -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 55985
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: On RGB
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 08:17:07

    Why do I suddenly remember the old saying 'Curiosty killed the cat'???

    Message: 55986
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: RGB business
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 12:15:42

    Cliff was worried about the board dying down, so he thought he would create
    a little mystery by adding the RGB board.  It's worked better than he
    thought, as the weak and mindless fall all over each other trying to get
    access to it.

    It's a cheap theatrical trick, but it works.  As a member of the RGB sig, I
    vote to keep Chris Neal out.

    Message: 55987
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Todd/
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 12:58:15

    I was just curious as to what it was. Now that I know, I'd rather not be
    there.

    Message: 55988
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Todd on RGB
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 13:11:48

    "Cheap theatrical trick" ??  Ha ha ha ha  you are so funny!
    First fact with all kidding aside....  The RGB SIG is not of my creation!
    It was thought up by SANDY SYSOP!  It was her idea alone!  You guys have
    been asking the wrong person for access....

    And the only members are: Rod Williams, James Hawley, Nick Ianuzzi, Sandy
    and of course...myself.   We are posting Bible verses on there and talking
    God's word....  Rod on the other hand (and James) are posting opposit views
    and some of them are rather profane.  I find this typical of so many
    atheists who claim to want brotherhood and love, but instead show hate.
    (Not all atheists are like this however, EI: Jim Lippard)

    Todd is not a member!  In fact, is he a member of even the CHRistian SIG?

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=* In God The World Loves *=*

    Message: 55989
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: The SYSOP Speaks
    Subject: Lloyd "Sox" Pulley
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 13:14:29

            Has returned as a re-newed $tatus member.  His nice boy came by
    today to get his Dad reinstated.
            He will at least wear SOX when he logs on Apollo, or else!

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 55990
    Author: $ Gary Jones
    Category: Religion
    Subject: WALK IN BEAUTY
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 16:04:23

    I see where the Navajo "Nation" will begin issuing their own tribal license
    plates.  This is not intended as as being critical of the Navajo, but has
    anyone else noticed the inclusion of the religious motto on the plates?

    In the final ceremony of the Navajo "Blessing Way" I understand that the
    participants are sworn to "Walk in Beauty" i.e. harmony, with the creator
    and his earth.  Surely some atheist Navajo or Hopi will immediately take up
    the good fight and attempt to have this religious motto removed from the
    tribal license plates.

                                                       ****  Gary   ****

    Message: 55991
    Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Lloyd  Pulley
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 16:29:47

    Nope!  I only wear socks when streaking through CarolCom's....she won't
    allow any nudity on her board.  But with the type of clientel (sp) that you
    have here, I figure complete nudity would be a must.  Cleaning all of the
    b/s off of my clothes gets to be real expensive!

    Message: 55992
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Last
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 17:58:28

            Be seeing you in the COS Sig then?
                    Hahahaha

    Message: 55993
    Author: $ Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Chomsky
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 18:39:33

      This version of the domino theory is undoubtedly believed
    at some level of consciousness, and expresses in a vulgar way
    the concerns over maintaining the "disparity" outlined in
    more sophisticated terms by Kennan at the time when Lyndon
    Johnson was voicing his fears about the "yellow dwarves."
    This crude domino theory is, however, regularly dismissed
    with scorn if things go sour and policy must be revised.  But
    there is also a rational version of the domino theory, the
    operative version, which is rarely questioned and has
    considerable plausibility; adopting the terminology of the
    planners, we might call it the "rotten apple theory."  The
    rotten apple theory was outlined by Dean Acheson when he
    concocted a remarkable series of fabrications concerning
    alleged Soviet pressure on Greece, Turkey and Iran in
    February 1947 in a successful effort to convince reluctant
    congressional leaders to support the Truman Doctrine, an
    incident that he cites with much pride in his memoirs; "Like
    apples in a barrel infected by one rotten one, the corruption
    of Greece would infect Iran and all to the east" and would
    "carry infection" to Asia Minor, Egypt and Africa, as well as
    Italy and France, which were "threatened" by Communist
    participation in democratic politics.  This adroit and
    cynical invocation of a fabricated "Russian threat" to
    prepare the way for measures to prevent "infection" from
    spreading has been imitated with great efficacy since.
      The prime concern throughout is that if there is one rotten
    apple in the barrel, then "the rot will spread," namely, the
    "rot" of successful social and economic development of a form
    that would constrain the Fifth Freedom.  This might have a
    demonstration effect.  To cite another case, Kissinger's
    aides recall that he was far more concerned over Allende in
    Chile than over Castro because "Allende was a living example
    of democratic social reform in Latin America," and Allende's
    success within the democratic process might cause Latin
    America to become "unraveled" with effects as far as Europe,
    where Eurocommunism, operating within parliamentary
    democracy, "scared him" no less.  Allende's success would
    send the wrong message to Italian voters, Kissinger feared.
    The "contagious example" of Chile would "infect" not only
    Latin America but also southern Europe, Kissinger stated,
    using the conventional imagery.  Soon, we might find that the
    Grand Area is beginning to erode.
      These concerns are persistent.  The CIA warned in 1964 that
    "Cuba's experiment with almost total state socialism is
    being watched closely by other nations in the hemisphere and
    any appearance of success there would have an extensive
    impact on the statist trend elsewhere in the area," to the
    detriment of the Fifth Freedom.  Hence the appearance of
    success must be aborted by a major terrorist war including
    repeated attempts to assassinate Castro, bombing of
    petrochemical and other installations, sinking of fishing
    boats, shelling of hotels, crop and livestock poisoning,
    destruction of civilian airlines in flight, etc.

    Message: 55996
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Gary/Walk In Beauty
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 20:22:38

            I saw nothing objectionable about the Navajo's license plates.  It
    would be nice to walk in beauty instead of a junkyard, for instance.

    *=* Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board entered *=*

    Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:O

    Hawley, James
    Ianuzzi, Nick
    Williams, Rod

    Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:$C

    Press  to abort

    Message: 25
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 14:26:53

    Blasphemy!

    Message: 26
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 12/11/88  Time: 17:15:43

            Rod is lost and sounds like he is never coming back.  His few posts
    on this sig shows the hate, with swearing and foul mouthed insults.  Rod may
    wish to be treated like that... But I do NOT!  At one time when he talked on
    here in civial talk, I liked the guy even though he did not believe in God
    and Jesus Christ.  But over the past few years I have seen his inner anger
    eat away at him where it is difficult for him to post a cival message worthy
    of reading.  They do not contain any worth while arguments, just insults,
    and verbal abuse.
            If Rod believed in Jesus and followed the Bibles teachings, I don't
    think you would find a better, or more gentle person than he.

            Let us pray for Rod's lost soul.  It's in God's hands now..
    The Mighty Apollo SYSOP is powerless to save Rod, and I have tried and
    failed.

    Please God, forgive him.

    Message: 27
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Shit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 05:03:53

    Cliff, in order to understand what Rod is trying to say, you have to force
    yourself to ignore his blasphemous rantings and look at the big picture. The
    kind of peaceful coexistance that Rod envisions was the root of the movement
    of the '60s, and I'm rather surprised that you don't seem to have a clearer
    recollection of that decade. Rod believes that a loving and just god would
    not allow the suffering that takes place on this planet, and he further
    believes that religion is a sort of drug for the masses. While I
    wholeheartedly agree with him on the first point, I have some trouble with
    the religious brainwashing aspect of his arguments. Rod apparently does not
    see the correlation between a religious life and the harmonious world he
    wishes to live in. The flaw in his reasoning is the false assumption that
    all church activities and social involvements are necessarily religious in
    nature, when in fact much of what a church does does not involve worshiping
    God.

    Message: 28
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Nick / Last
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 11:29:22

            I go to a local Church here in Phoenix for FUN...  There are events
    that the word God is never mentioned.  I know our boys love going to all the
    things like camping trips, outings and AWANA.  They even like Sunday School,
    and we do NOT make them go... They do it on their oun because they have FUN!
    The people there are friendly, and are trying to make a better world.
            Now comes Rod, with his verbal abuse that maybe I can't see the
    message he is sending, because all I see is anger and hate.  I do remember
    the 60's very well....  We were anti WAR, not anti Bible!
            Yes, God could force his will on us, and yes this place could be a
    FUN world...but we would learn NOTHING!  I think we are here to learn about
    Bad as well as good... and God did give us FREE WILL!  Rod would rather we
    all be robots without the ability of free thought and ideas.  I have nothing
    against Rod's thought that there is no God.... he has that right!  But he
    gets angry when the people around him wish to believe in God.  Rod does not
    understand that is their RIGHT as well.  So, how does Rod counter it, he
    swears, gets abusive with other peoples beliefs.  With people like Rod,
    there could NEVER be true peace and brother hood in the world.
            Rod takes exagerations of Bible teachings and Churches and makes
    that sound like the norm for Christians.   But in truth, Rod does not know
    what a Normal middle of the road Christian thinks or feels.
            Rod took a wrong turn somewhere along the road of life.  For that
    I am sorry, and will pray for his forgiveness that only God can do.
            If Rod wants a better world, then he should act like it!
    *=* In God the World Loves *=*

    Message: 29
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Shit-Chat
    Subject: Far out.
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 20:37:47

            My hate has consumed my mind so much that all I do is hide in my
    closet and babble.  I keep my computer system in there and I have cut a 11
    inch by 4 inch hole near the bottom of the door so that Jasmine can slip me
    food.  Man, all this hate has eaten me up.
            For the next chapter of my continued story please listen to John
    Lennon's "Imagine" album.
            I am fairly tired this evening.  One of my auto lot clients left his
    entire key board outside over the weekend and needless to say some Christian
    took them.  I was there for eight hours today and in that period I made 39
    separate keys, none of them being duplicates.  I will go again tomorrow and
    do some more.  It's like I am in space city.
            Cliff, the manner in which you interpit my messages leaves me to
    believe that it must be you who is consumed in hate.  Why must I feel hate
    when I say something like fuck god?  I don't understand.  I am smiling now
    and there isn't a living thing that I hate.  I feel a strong kinship for
    others.  I always say, look to the accuser.
            You have accused many a user of this system over the past years of
    "their hatred".  You have done this to Alan Hamilton among others.  I know
    Alan and he is the last person who would have hatred for anyone or anything.
     He is a gently soul.  It is you reading this into other peoples messages
    because basically hatred is someting very near to you.  But it does not come
    from me.  I am a fairly happy go lucky person and I get along in person with
    Christian, Jews, blacks and, if you believe this, even them WOPS.
            So, my friend look to yourself or if I am wrong, learn to interpit.

    Message: 30
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Rod's thoughts
    Subject: Nick
    Date: 12/12/88  Time: 20:40:10

            I don't like churches even though they do have activities that are
    fun.  This is because their basic premise is a diety.  Thanks, but I got
    away from that a while ago and wish to keep it that way.  Your message was
    good though, thanks.
                                    Rod