### Apollo BBS Archive - March 16, 1989

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    Message: 5311
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Cliff Winters
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 05:47:16

    Maybe if we all let him know that Sandy is doing such a great job that none
    of us give a rat's rear end if he ever comes back, he will snap out of his
    infantile sulking stage and grow up into being so juvenilely jealous that he
    will come back out of spite?
    "Facial fuzz doth not a man make." (Who said that?) (smile)

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 57588
    Author: David Burke
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Williams baiting
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 01:35:13

    It's not just a job; it's an adventure.

    Message: 57589
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/profit
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 05:27:25

    I'm sure that Kemper Marley, wholesale liquor dealer and one of the richest
    aand most powerful men in the state, would beinterested to knoe that there's
    no profit in booze.
    Besides. alcohol is the only addictive, poisonous "disease" that can legally
    be sold on virtually every major corner, in every liquor store, drug store
    and supermarket, and it should stay the only one. Making dope legal is not
    going to solve the problem at all, and that is a fact.

    Message: 57590
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Alan
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 05:35:09

    The last statement of your message tells me that it has been too long since
    you have taken a good look at out high school and even junior high campuses,
    where children are being coerced into not only smoking cancer sticks, but
    using all sorts of drugs as well. This is pressure put on kids not only by
    their peers, but by those who are supposed to be the examples as well. Just
    walking into a teacher's lounge is enough to gag a maggot, what with all the
    stale cigarette smoke in the air.
    No Alan, legalization is not the answer. Neither, for that matter, is the
    Phoenix police present drive to get tough on the users. Education of the
    children and much tougher prosecution of the dealers and importers and/or
    manufacturers would help. Even up to and including the death penalty for
    convicted pushers, since they are responsible for many deaths with their
    poison.

    Message: 57591
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul last
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 06:02:55

    Just shoot them all. Then no problem.
                        Ralph

    Message: 57592
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/your 5 of 5
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 07:02:28

    BRAVO! Well put! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 57593
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Paul/legal drugs
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 07:13:01

    Then what is your answer to the problem? Surely the death penality is no/has
    been no deterrent. With those kind of big bucks involved, they figure it's
    worth risking their lives for anyway. In fact, a lot less money could be
    involved and they'd risk their lives. If this country gave the death
    penality to all pushers - we'd become mass murders ourselves. I don't think
    we have enough courts or judges, prisons etc. to carry out such a thing
    anyway. What are we going to do with a little 12 year old pusher too? Send
    him to the gas chamber? Do you also realize what it would take - man power
    wise to hunt down all these drug dealers? Wouldn't it be easier to just take
    away their profit? Don't just condemn this idea and not give a solution
    yourself. -=*) ANN (*=-
    P.S. If I remember right, about 6 months ago didn't you say you were
    thinking the subject over and hated to admit it, but you might change your
    way of thinking and making it legal?

    Message: 57594
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Peter & Alan
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 07:13:55

    Great posts. Well thought out and well put! -=*) ANN (*=-

    Message: 57595
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 57563/Nick
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 09:29:29

    Don't you detect a slight note of ANONYMOUS sarcasm in that post? I detect a
    little bit of foul play here.

    Message: 57596
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Paul/57565
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 09:31:55

    Of course, and the only way to solve all of that needless suffering and
    victimization is to LEGALIZE it, right? Then everything will be peachy keen
    and everyone will have daisies in their yard all year long, and we'll all
    ride bicycles to work and think like Rod. Whoopee!

    Message: 57597
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Paul/57566
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 09:33:48

    Granted, it does take a little longer to decipher it. I'm sorry, it wasn't
    meant to offend, Paul. I'll use dashes or something to that effect. To tell
    you the truth, I could probably write an entire post backward with little
    difficulty. I've written letters to people backwards (in cursive) and could
    just imagine the fits it put them into!

    Y.F.I.C.,
    Daryl

    Message: 57598
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Wine
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 09:48:04

    Wine, like anything else is fine IF CONSUMED IN MODERATION. In the days of
    Christ, drugs as we know them today did not exist (both the healing kind and
    the narcotics). Most certainly it was known that drinking to excess produced
    drunkenness. It was also frowned upon greatly: "But now I have written unto
    you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a
    fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an
    extortioner; with such an one no not to eat." Drunkenness is in some pretty
    heavy company, there. It's nestled in there among such other detestable
    things as fornication, idolatry, and extortion (1 Cor 5:11). Next chapter:
    "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be
    not decieved: neither fornicators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor
    abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor
    drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the kindgom of God."
    (1 Cor 6:9-10). "Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh:
    For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall
    clothe a man with rags." (Proverbs 23:20-21). Riotous overindulgence of food
    (such as pagan feasts) always included the overindulgence of alcohol.
    However, as we can see, it was something for an upright man to detest.
    "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the
    Spirit; Speaking to yoursevles in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs,
    singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always
    for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
    Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God." (Ephesians
    5:18-21).*

    Message: 57599
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Wine II
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 10:02:41

    However, the wine itself is not seen as a detestable thing. David wrote of
    all the good things of the Lord in Psalms, and among those things he
    included, "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the
    service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; [this in no
    way can be misconstrued to give a blessing to the smoking of marijuana, as
    it expressly refers to the use of the herb to "bring forth food out of the
    earth"] And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face
    to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart." (Psalms 104:14-15).
    Then of course, there was the occasion when Christ, at a wedding reception
    in Cana of Galilee, turned waterpots of water into wonderful wine (it's
    superiority attested to by the governor of the feast: "When the ruler of the
    feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was:
    (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast
    called the bridegroom, And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth
    set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse:
    but thou hast kept the good wine until now." (John 2:9-10) (The practice of
    serving the guests good wine, and then after the tastebuds could not discern
    the difference, setting out cheaper wine, was in practice even then! *grin*)
    However, once again, drinking to excess was not the accepted use among
    upstanding people of those times. As it was already mentioned: "Drink no
    longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often
    infirmities." (1 Timothy 5:23).

    Message: 57600
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/Drugs To Kids
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 10:11:43

    You seem to be closing your eyes to the fact that teenage alcoholism is a
    serious problem in our country. Many kids who would never smoke a single
    vial of crack or snort a single line of cocaine, regularly get themselves
    drunk to the point of illness. Why is alcohol the substance of preference to
    underage youth? Because it is legal, and because it is acceptable. You say
    there are no "alcohol peddlers" out there. Granted, there is nobody on the
    street corner with bottles tucked under his trenchcoat. However, many
    underage kids are still getting alcohol in as great a quantity as they want
    or can afford. How? An older friend. An older brother or sister. A fake ID.
    You name it. It's a hell of a lot easier for kids to get, and a damn sight
    cheaper. It is the allure of the advertising and the acceptability through
    the media that does it. In Holland, a 16 year old can get a can of Heineken
    from a coin-operated dispenser on his school campus. However, drinking to
    excess is frowned upon severely by Nederlander teenagers. Drunkards are
    those to be scorned or mocked, and it is certainly not a status symbol.

    Message: 57601
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Alan/Legalization
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 10:18:57

    Alan, like you said, making it "illegal" for someone to get something isn't
    going to make it go away. Like you said also, cigarettes and alcohol are
    illegal for minors. However, with the legalization train of thought, why
    should they be? I know a lot of minors that are a damn sight more
    responsible than a lot of adults that I know. AND DESPITE THE LAWS AGAINST
    CHILDREN BUYING/USING ALCOHOL/CIGARETTES, CHILDREN ARE STILL USING THEM, AND
    USING THEM IN GREAT QUANTITY. If you make crack and other narcotics illegal,
    it is going to raise the acceptability level of those drugs, and use among
    teenagers will rise. How? By the same means that beer companies are aiming
    their commercials (Spuds is a prime example) to teenagers and youth. As soon
    as RJR finds out there is money to be made in the newly-legalized drugs,
    they are going to put out advertising campaigns the likes of which you have
    never seen before. Anyone who can make a dollar in the legalized drug market
    will be doing so, and using all means within their power to do so. Making
    those drugs illegal to underage children will produce the same "halting
    effect" that the ban on underage drinking and smoking have now. Kids are
    still going to get it, kids are still going to use it, and being that the
    acceptability level will be raised, I feel that more kids will start using
    the newly legalized hardcore drugs. And using a lot of them. Why? Because
    society will be telling them that it's LEGAL! And it's the thing to do to be
    POPULAR and have FRIENDS! Why else?

    Message: 57602
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/57571
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 10:19:37

    Why do I get this sneaking suspicion that you "know" Mildred "personally."
    (My, grandma, what hairy arms you have!)

    Message: 57603
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Reply
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 10:30:44

    First of all I want to thank you warmly, and from the bottom of my heart for
    taking my words out of context, twisting the meanings of others, and
    attempting to throw them back in my face under the guise of respectability.
    I try to answer your questions honestly, and I would ask that, lest I not
    give your posts the time of day, that you would offer me the same gesture.
    Oh, and thanks too for all the mudslinging. That really lends credence to
    your smoke-clouded thinking. This world and all it's "me-me-me" train of
    thought makes me violently ill. Tell you what, good ol buddy pal, why don't
    we just legalize EVERYTHING? No sense in trying to place limitations on
    people's lives. Let's let everyone just do whatever the hell they please. I
    mean, why should I want to try and restrict someone else's life just because
    I would like to retain a sense of general order? Heck, if you want to go to
    church? Fine, go with the flow! If you want to go up to that same church and
    torch it to express your newly found freedoms, what the hell? There are no
    laws anymore. They are too repressive! Why should we be kept from doing
    whatever we want to do even though we are being wholly irrational and
    potentially ruining our own lives? Need a good laugh? Just knock an old lady
    into the middle of Central Avenue during rush hour and have yourself a grand
    old chuckle.

    Off base, you say? Perhaps a little. But well within your scope of
    legalization. Why legalize some things and not others? If someone wants to
    mess their life up on crack in the privacy of their own home, I could really
    care less.

    Message: 57604
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Drugs II
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 10:36:29

    It is not my place to tell them whether or not to do it there. They are
    probably so messed up they wouldn't listen to a little common sense.
    However, if that same person is out on the street, in a car, or any place
    out in public without his full faculties, who knows what he might do? It has
    been proven that those who become addicted to crack (nearly all that have
    tried it) become so wholly and completely dependent upon that drug that they
    care nothing about how they get their next fix as long as they get it.
    Burglary, murder, roberry, it doesn't matter. All that matters to them is
    that high. If I were to give the okay to legalize any currently illegal
    recreational drug, I would suggest marijuana, but ONLY marijuana. And it
    could not be an "outdoor drug" much like alcohol is restricted (you can't
    drink a beer in your front yard). Not that I condone the use of marijuana,
    but on the whole I have understood it to be a much less damaging drug than
    the others you want to include in a blanket legalization.

    Message: 57605
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Final
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 10:47:25

    At this point I will refuse to attempt any sort of rational discussion with
    you. You use my words out of context, you twist other words beyond
    recognition, you sling mud like there is no tomorrow, you put words in my
    mouth, you mock my personal beliefs, and this is only the beginning. For
    someone who claims to respect the rights of others and blasts those who you
    feel DON'T respect the rights of others, you are a real hypocrite. And
    calling me a bigot? Your anti-Christian bigotry and constant Christian
    mockery is far more repulsive than any any racist bigot I have seen in a
    long time. (And lest you attempt to use this line out of context to claim
    that I support racial bigotry) I HATE ALL FORMS OF RACIAL BIGOTRY. There.
    But do not attempt to judge others until you take a good long look in the
    mirror, pal. This is not to say that I hate you, Rod. I don't HATE anyone.
    It's the things that you say that I cannot stand. Expect me at the next GT
    to say hello, and engage in light conversation, but don't expect me to ever
    again attempt to debate anything of any weight with you again. It's futile.
    Open your mind, Rod, like you claim to do.

    Message: 57606
    Author: Captain Freedom   ***NOTE:  This is me. ***
    Category: News Today
    Subject: Holy, holy
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 11:26:44

             It is my humble duty to inform you that you are
    worshipping false gods. Jesus, Mary, Joseph, Abraham, and
    all those you read about in your religion books are
    foreigners. Today, the descendents of those same people are
    living, for the most part, on foreign soil. They are
    citizens of Iran, Syria, Israel, Egypt, Libya, Iraq and
    Saudi Arabia. In fact, the U.S. Government just kicked some
    of the decendents out of this nation.  It would be a safe
    bet that Kadafi and Khomeni are more closely related to the
    people mentioned in the Bible than any of you.
             It should therefore be in your best interest to
    stick with a true American Diety, the one, the only, Bob. Bob
    was born and raised in Dallas, Texas.  Bob is an Anglo-Saxon
    of American decent.  Bob is a safe bet.

                                    Captain Freedom

    Message: 57607
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Guns
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 12:28:53

            Senate Bill prohibiting the sale of Assault Rifles:
                                  SB386
            Sen. Dennis DeConcini             261-6756
            Sen. John McCain                  241-2567
    ================================================================

            House Bill outlawing ALL semi-automatic firearms capable
    of holding more than five rounds. This includes handguns (45 & 9mm).
                                   HB669
            Rep. Jon Kyle                   840-1891
            Rep. John Rhodes                831-6433
            Rep. Bob Stump                  261-6923
            Rep. Mo Udall                   Are you Kidding?
    =================================================================

    Call them and let them know you are against these Bills!

                    Sandy SySop

    Message: 57608
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod/Jesus/Drugs
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 13:19:46

    From your answer I could summarize and say that pig capitalization is the
    same as capitalization with little or no consideration for others.  From
    that point of view I would say that most capitalization today is of the pig
    variety .

    I didn't see the "Wall Street" movie.  What rating was it?  We usually don't
    go to R movies.  I did see Rambo though.  I love it when he socks it to the
    bad guys.  I think "poetic justice" is important in the movies.  I mean
    like, who wants to see a movie where the good guys get wasted and the bad
    guys come out on top.  I see enough of that in real life.

    You shouldn't talk about Jesus in a derogative manner.  You will have to
    stand before him in judgement someday.

    Message: 57609
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Mildred Stumpstedd
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 13:34:20

    Re:  "My teacher told me that all Communists will go to hell."

    Your teacher is mixed up in the head.  The Bible tells us very clearly why a
    person goes to hell, and it certainly is not determined by their political
    position.  When you talk like that, you give Christians a bad name.  Or
    maybe it was your purpose to give Christians a bad name.

    Message: 57610
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Mildred
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 13:44:48

    Re:  "My Sunday School teacher told me that three fourths of the people
    she meets does not agree with her doctrine.  Therefore, 75% of the people
    will be going to hades."

    Could it be possible that 75% of the people are going to hell and 25% are
    going to heaven.  From what you have said about your Sunday School teacher,
    her doctrine is not from the Bible.  No where does the Bible say believers
    must agree with Mildred's Sunday School teacher to get into heaven.  Are you
    for real?

    Message: 57611
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Savage on drugs
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 16:46:39

    The notion that the drug problem will be solved through law enforcement
    efforts directed against pushers and smugglers is nonsense.  Tougher law
    enforcement is not going to deter many from entering the business; the risk
    of prosecution is simply an operating expense for these people.  Even the
    death penalty would not serve as much of a deterrent.  The risk of execution
    (like the risk of death in other occupations) would merely be computed into
    the cost of doing business.  The ultimate result of greater law enforcement
    directed against drug suppliers will be to drive up their operating
    expenses, which would consequently drive up the price of drugs on the
    street.  Since demand, at least among addicts, is relatively inelastic, this
    will mean addicts will have to raise more money to support their habits.
    How do addicts raise money to pay for drugs?  Crime.  Thus, the result of
    increased law enforcement efforts directed against drug suppliers is likely
    to be nothing more than an increase in violent and property crime by drug
    users.

    The only way to fight drugs is by attacking the demand.  This means tough
    penalties against users and strong discipline in schools, as well as private
    efforts, especially by parents to keep their kids from using drugs.  The
    problem with drugs is not that people are selling them.  Someone who deals
    in drugs may be an unsavory character, but fundamentally he is nothing more
    than a businessman who is entering a market to meet a demand.  Any effective
    anti-drug strategy must emphasize that users are accountable for their
    actions and are not innocent victims of the drug dealers.

    Message: 57612
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Westfall's 57598
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 16:47:58

    Is cocaine fine IF CONSUMED IN MODERATION?

    Message: 57613
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Daryl/wine
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:03:04

            Isn't it easier to make grape juice, a whole lot easier?  Do you
    think that perhaps the process started out with some grape juice going 'bad'
    and fermenting?  Someone was thirsty or thrifty and drank some and ole' saw
    what it did to their minds and there have been alcoholics ever since.  It
    isn't made now or wasn't made then for any other reason than to get high.
            And yes Daryl, marujuana, hash-hish and heroin, peyote and mushrooms
    as well as alcohol for getting soused was just as commom back then as it is
    today.  Oh, I forgot cocaine.  Only then it was LEGAL and was used by the
    people as they saw fit.

    Message: 57614
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob Thornburg
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:10:27

            Good message to me.  I don't know what rating the movie was although
    there was a few bedroom scenes so I guess it was a PG or R.
            I agree with what you say cept for the part about standing in front
    of your Jesus.  I would suspect that Ayatollah of Iran is much closer in
    relation to Him than I am.  I'm, like ole Capt. Freedom says, for the one,
    the only, BOB.  And Bob is an a$$h###!  But I hear that He (BoB) is having a
    sale on salvation this week.  Only 7% will get you in the door.  And
    remember Bob, Jesus spelled backwards is susej while BoB spelled backwards
    is still Bob.  But you should know that.                -Rod

    Message: 57615
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Bob/25%
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:12:39

            If only 10 per-cent of humans go to hell (or even 1%) then hell must
    be a mighty big place.  And just to think, those poor souls will be there
    long after the Universe collapses.  Much, much longer, eh?  Gee.
    -Rod

    Message: 57616
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: James Taranto/drugs
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:14:23

            Well put!

    Message: 57617
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl 1 of 3
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:15:21

         In your last set of messages to me you made many innuendos as to my
    character.  I couldn't resist replying in kind.  I am weak, so what?
         Well my brother, it is another day and I see I have more messages
    that need to be answered, written by you.
         What words of yours did I take out of context?  I answered you as I
    understood you.  And there you go on that "Let's legalize everything"
    trip.  You just do not understand that my freedom ends where your nose
    begins.  You can drink milk right in front of me and I haven't the right
    to arrest you or knock it out of your hand.
         By the way, can single people who have no families do hard drugs or
    would the undertaker become the victim?
         You ask, "Why legalize some things and not others?"  Daryl, knock,
    knock, anybody home?  Think.  It is a fact of life that some things are
    illegal while other are legal.  By your logic, turning this statement
    around, "Let's make EVERYTHING illegal", makes no sense.  Neither
    statement fits or shows any logic whatsoever.  Somehow I don't expect you
    to see it as you've brought that very same point up last week.
         You said it yourself, crack is addicting and those addicts, as well
    as heroin users, will do anything to get their next fix.  Burglary,
    murder, robbery, it doesn't matter, you said.  Agreed.  The police will
    never, never, be able to put an end to its being imported or its use.
    Therefore look forward to a continuing crime wave well into the next
    century.  Also expect many more prisons, all filled to capacity.  Sounds
    like a Christian Plan.  I couldn't see your Christ having people arrested

    Message: 57618
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl 2 of 3
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:16:03

    for smoking pot and put in prison and this includes even the politicians
    being jailed.
         Under the proposed legalization plan, the huge profits, whatever did
    not fall into the politicians pockets, would be used for Drug Education.
    Right now, there are no profits for the establishment, just debts.  And
    the taxpayers are hit hard.  $20 grand for each inmate per year according
    to the latest Government survey.  Don't you realize that for every pusher
    that gets popped, there are many willing to take their place?  When you
    hear of a shipment of drugs being confiscated, you can bet your bottom
    dollar that hundreds of shipments got through.  If every citizen in the
    United Stated were deputized, drugs would still get through and still be
    used by the masses.  You cannot take away from people what they want.
         Drug usage is also a form of protest by our youth.  Same as rock 'n
    roll and fast dancing.  These young people see through the hypocrisy of
    this world and rebel against it.  If the establishment says don't do
    this, you can again bet your last dollar they will.  Resentment of
    authority plays a big part in all this.  If the establishment showed
    a good running system, both fair and equitable where a person would be
    proud to be a part of, then crime would diminish.

    Message: 57619
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Daryl 3 of 3
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:16:43

         Here it is like apartheid.  The South African Government made it
    illegal for a black family to own enough land to support themselves on.
    Thus they were able to get cheap labor and put people in the mines.
    It is basically the same here.  Children growing up recognizes these
    things and go against society in any way they can.  Looking to a job at
    McDonalds is not what they have in mind.  Crime is created by the
    politicians.
         You may not be a racial bigot but you are a bigot in the sense that
    you support legislation that makes it a crime to do something that is not
    harmful to others.  In fact, you've never tried drugs of the type we are
    talking about, therefore I can say that your judgement is biased and you
    tend to believe all the establishment crap that is printed.  You probably
    believe the tests done on rats in the sixties where marijuana was used,
    causing brain damage to the little critters.  It later came out that the
    rats had their brains taken out of their skull then THC was injected
    directly into their gray matter, the rats died after suffering massive
    brain damage. -Rod

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    Message: 212
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Sandy/smoking
    Date: 03/16/89  Time: 07:44:33

    Unfortunately, me and 'grass' do not agree. I smoked it three times - the
    first time was great - I laughed for two hours over nothing - the second and
    third times made me sick. After trying it for the first time - I fully
    intended to give up all alcholic beaverages and just smoke pot. It's great
    and safer than booze. But alas, it's not for me. You can function a lot
    better than with booze too. That laughing jag was the most fun I ever had in
    my life. I'm all for 'Marijuana dens' - when smokers can go and lay in beds
    and smoke it  - can just get high off the smoke in the room! Ha - talk about
    corrupt er? Who Me? So pure an innocent that I am. -=*) ANN (*=-

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     1:        Don't plan on running for political office in the near future.
     2:
     3:I smoked pot hundreds of times and it is great.  I totally quit drinking in
     4:1968 when a friend gave me a joint.  It was good then and it is good now
     5:except I haven't smoked one since January of 1988.  But I will again.
     6:
     7:        I was drinking a lot too,  I would go out on my lunch hour and get
     8:crocked and this would help five o'clock come around much faster.  With pot,
     9:you smoke and you no longer care if five ever comes around because you're
    10:digging everything that is happening.  And a plain piece of white, bleached
    11:bread tastes heavenly.  ANd sex......oh la la.          -Rod
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