### Apollo BBS Archive - May 3, 1998

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    Message: 3434
    Author: $ Peter Petrisko
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: WORK FOR FOOD
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 11:33:06

         In most cases, it is a scam.  These people will stand on the corner and
    wait for a good natured citizen to come along and just hand 'em cash... If
    someone wants the guy to work, he will set up some time to meet, usually
    early morning the next day, and never show up.  Maybe, if he is really
    hurting, he'll show up and work for a few hours...

    Message: 3435
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Food for Work
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 19:14:03

    Too many of my aquaintances have echoed much the same as I have noticed
    on this board of late.
    My In-laws told this guy outside of Smitty's to show up at DES and he
    flipped them off.
    I've heared rumors that people offering clean up work at their houses
    have within a week been robbed.
    It's a sad state of affairs when good natured people only trying to help
    and feel for others are preyed upon by the unscrupulous.
    My advice to them:

    Go to the local Thrift store, get some semi-decent apparel, get a haircut
    and buy a newsper or ripp one off, I'm sure Pat Murphy wont mind in that
    instance.
    If I can start from zilch, so can they.

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     1:        I saw a guy and several children several months ago holding up such
     2:a sign, I wanted to cry so I gave them a few bucks.  Anymore, I don't know
     3:what is real.
     4:        I wonder if Ethopia is holding up a big sign that reads, "I will
     5:stay capitalist for food."   Hmmmmmm.
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     1:        Sorry Peter, last Sunday was important for me to change Vans.  I
     2:never did get finished that day and I lost several calls.  Did you find your
     3:keys and the loose wire connection?
     4:        I lived in this town for two years without an auto and I always
     5:managaed to get where I wanted to go.
     6:                                        Rod
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    Message: 353
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: OK, when is it?
    Date: 05/02/88  Time: 21:46:46

    I was promised a date by the end of week. The time has come to announce it.

    Rev. Beau

    Message: 354
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/02/88  Time: 23:43:25

    May 15th.

    Message: 355
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Motors & Fuel
    Subject: Engine.
    Date: 05/02/88  Time: 23:45:10

    I got the engine today, and it is impressive.  The rocket should be finished
    in about a week, and should provide a spectacular launch.

    Message: 356
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
    Subject: Thank you
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 14:30:56

    Now I can try to arrange my trips to DC.  I hope to see you at the launch
    site.

    Now I need to mail money to Cervelli, right?

    Message: 357
    Author: $ Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Hawley
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 19:16:41

    I thought Ianuzzi was arranging the dates.

    If this is incorrect, then please remove my status from this SIG
    as I refuse to be a part of a cliche of special interest to the few.

    Message: 358
    Author: $ James Hawley
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 19:24:42

    A date didn't seem to be appearing out of nowhere, so I had to decide on the
    one that was set previously.  I'm sorry you won't be able to make it, but
    a date HAD to be set.

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    Message: 52017
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Questions
    Date: 05/02/88  Time: 19:57:22

            The world ends tomorror.

    Message: 52019
    Author: $ David Burkhart
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/02/88  Time: 21:39:36

    Tomorror?  Is that a word?

    Message: 52020
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 05/02/88  Time: 23:15:03

    It was yesterdaa, but it's not anymorr.

    Message: 52021
    Author: $ Steve MacGregor
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mike Stackpole
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 03:21:52

      C'mon!  Now *I* know who you are, of course, but these other folks here
    would like to know who you are, too.  Do you want to tell them all, or
    should I?

    ==========  Pascal  #(O,O)# Hoot!  MacProgrammer  ==========

    Message: 52022
    Author: Mike Stackpole
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Who am I...
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 05:36:39

    For those who want to know who I am, here goes:
    I am a professional writer and game designer who has worked in the valley
    for 9 years now.  The bulk of my work has been for Flying Buffalo in the
    role playing game realm.  Work I've done has been translated into French,
    German, Swedish, Japanese, and will be translated into Spanish, Italian and
    Finnish.  Some people even contend my work's been translated into English,
    but that's my editors...  I have also done software game work and currently
    have two games on the market: Bards Tale III: Thief of Fate and Wasteland.
    In a review in the current issue of Computer Gaming World, the reviewer said
    Wasteland would earn his vote for "best game of the year."
            As a writer I have completed three novels.  The first, Warrior: En
    Garde, will appear this month from FASA and will be available in bookstores
    all over the valley, like Waldenbooks and B. Daltons.
            As a writer, and an American, I am outraged at Fred Weber's contempt
    of the Constitution.
            Oh yeah, as Jim White suggested, I've used a pseudonym on this board
    before, but I'd not give it away.  If Weber restrains me I'll need a cover.

    Message: 52023
    Author: Mike Stackpole
    Category: War!
    Subject: KFYI/it gets worse
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 05:40:34

    Weber and his lawyers have made a new move that should shock and anger all
    of us.  He subpoenaed all of Tom Leykis' records concerning Tom's BBS.  This
    includes all messages public and private, names, addressed, telephone
    numbers and passwords.  I've not logged on to Tom's board yet this morning,
    but I expect to find it's been dismantled by court order any time now.
            Please pass the word along on this and other boards.  Let's write
    sponsors and let them know we don'tlike what's going on.
            All that's needed for the victory of evil is for good people to
    stand by and do nothing.  We all enjoy BBSing.  This is our chance to make
    sure we can enjoy this freedom for as long as we want to.
    Thanks,
    Mike

    Message: 52024
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: War!
    Subject: kfyi
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 05:57:20

    While I have never listened to KFYI (I am stuck on KTAR), and have never
    used TOm Leykis' BBS, such a thing as has been talked about here lately, if
    true, shoul outrage any American. What I can't understand at all is a judge
    sitting on a bench anywhere in the United States of America who would issue
    such an order, or flaunt the basic constitutional rights of an American
    citizen to freedom of expression in such an offhanded way.
     Please, somebody, give me some info. WHat is the location of KFYI (on the
    radio dial) and what is Tom's BBS #? Even if I disagreed with the man's
    principles (and I don't kno that I do), I would still support him in this
    travesty.

    Message: 52025
    Author: $ Alan Hamilton
    Category: War!
    Subject: KFYI
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 07:20:48

       KFYI is at 910AM on the dial, and Tom's BBS is at 944-NEWS.  Since the
    security of the BBS's records are in question, you should use a nonstandard
    password, and watch what you say, even in "private" mail.
       From some comments that Barry Young made in the 5:00am hour on Monday in
    response to a caller, it seems that KFYI is viewing this as an antitrust
    action.  But unless the people that are pressuring the advertisers are
    working for another radio station, I don't see how.
       Tom Leykis is liberal, atheist, and contraversial, so you probably won't
    have much to agree with him on, Paul.  He even manages to raise my blood
    pressure from time to time.  But he is very intelligent, and he does make
    you think.  He, while program director, brought the station the highest
    ratings that it has ever had.  The only reason he is in trouble is a
    personality conflict between him and the general manager, Fred Weber.

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    Message: 52026
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mike Stackpole
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 07:41:26

    I have 'Bard's Tale' game - it must be #1 because it says it's by a guy
    called Michael Crawford. Sounds like you live a pretty interesting life.
    =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 52027
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Prediction
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 07:47:14

    The Mighty Nostrodamus supposedly predicted that Calif. will go in the drink
    this month sometimes! JT - don't you think it's time for a quick trip to
    Arizona again? =*--ANN--*=
    P.S. Don't stop over in Blythe!

    Message: 52028
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: KFYI subpoena
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 08:03:54

    Of the three demands, two have been quashed.  The three demands were for (a)
    all messages and mail, (b) a list of all BBS users, (c) a list of all users'
    addresses, telephone numbers, and passwords.  (b) and (c) have been quashed,
    (a) still stands.

    Message: 52029
    Author: $ James White
    Category: War!
    Subject: KFYI
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 17:07:38

    Gee, if what Jim Lippard says is true, my mail to Tom will be a part of the
    court record!  Unbelievable - anyone see any swastikas of late?  I can't
    believe this stuff - who does Weber think he is anyway?  Sheesh, if this
    continues and Tom is fired or let go or whatever, I think a massive boycott
    not only of all KFYI's sponsors would be called for, but I think it should
    be said that no one - absolutely no one - should call into the station, for
    if they are so willing to trample our constitutional rights, they should not
    be in the "free speech" business.
    Finally, no wonder Tom's BBS has been so busy today...
    James>>>
    Cliff, you planning on applying for Tom's position?

    Message: 52030
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Reality Club
    Date: 05/03/88  Time: 17:43:52

      We may compare the future evolution of machines to the
    evolution of life on dry land 400 million years ago.  Life
    may continue to expand by technobic autopoiesis.  It may, in
    staggeringly short time periods, penetrate vast regions of
    the galaxy.  Indeed, compared to former evolutionary
    advances onto dry land and into the atmosphere, taking
    hundreds of thousands of years, galactic habitation may
    occur nearly instantaneously and take one hundred years.
    This surmise is derived from the general phenomenon of
    evolutionary acceleration.
      From a long-term biospheric point of view, we may be less
    important than our machines.  "Fossils" of machines, as we
    have seen, already exist in the solar system beyond the Earth.
    From 1976 until the shortage of NASA funding
    caused their connection with the autopoietic Earth to be
    severed in the early 1980s, the Viking orbiters and landers
    periodically surveyed the lonely stillness of the Martian
    landscape.  Other machine-extensions of the biosphere, in
    the form of Soviet and U.S. spacecraft, orbiting various
    celestial bodies, primarily the Earth, are still very much
    connected to the biota.  They are part of the system and in
    fact are far less vulnerable to external threats than are
    we as flesh-and-blood beings.
      Neutron bombs, capable of destroying our human bodies, are
    expected to leave the more durable machines system intact.
    The future of our machines, provided they can remain part of
    the autopoietic biosphere, is less bleak than that of
    ourselves.
      The Gaian biosphere with its multitudes and bizarre
    histories will, we reckon, persist at least until the death
    of the Sun.  Our ancestors were apes, and if we saw them
    today, we would probably wonder if they had escaped from
    some local zoo.  Our descendants may find themselves in a
    similar predicament with machines, who will also be our
    descendants.  This being the case, we can only hope that
    Butler's 1863 satiric comment:
      We treat our horses, dogs, cattle and sheep, on the whole
      with great kindness, we give them whatever experience
      teaches us to be best for them, and there can be no
      doubt that our use of meat has added to the happiness of
      the lower animals far more than it has detracted from it;
      in like manner it is reasonable to suppose that the
      machine will treat us kindly, for their existence is as
      dependent upon ours as ours is upon the lower animals.
    will not prove to be a simple statement of our technological
    future.

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     1:        Sure, tomorror is a word from my home planet, Gakto.  Literally
     2:translated it means, "in a little while".
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     1:        Power corrupts.
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    Message: 1326
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: My fingers
    Date: 05/02/88  Time: 21:47:27

    They are attached to my hands, of course!

    Rev. Beau

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