### Apollo BBS Archive - March 4, 1989

    Mail from Apollo SYSOP
    Date: 03/03/89  Time: 20:12:39

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    I found out about the orange concentrate after I kicked the flu.  You eat
    the can of juice.  Do NOT mix with water.

    James, coming home?   Naaaa, he has it better down there and won't be
    returning.

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*
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     1:        Let's divide up the belongings that James didn't take with him.
     2:I'll take the big tv in the living room and you can have the bedroom tv.
     3:ANd we'll divie up the vcrs.  Oh yeah, you can have the bugs.
     4:
     5:        According the Nikki, Donald Duck OJ has the highest concentrate of
     6:allowable bugs in thier product.  Perhaps it could be the bugs that cures
     7:ya.  Couldn't one substitute another brand?

    Mail from Bob Thornburg
    Date: 03/03/89  Time: 21:19:56

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    Well Rod, as it turns out you gave me an extra lock.  I paid for 4, you gave
    me 5.  I have the extra lock in my briefcase waiting for its new home.
    Please advise.  BTW, could you sell me 4 computers?  Ha Ha!
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     1:        I realized the day I delivered the locks to you that I had given you
     2:an extra one.  I am doing well financially.  Keep the lock as a bribe.  I
     3:want in the studio at night so I can broadcast some weird satantic messages
     4:to the population.  Could we crank up the power to 500,000 WATTS?
     5:        As far as the computers go, I am a locksmith so find four friends
     6:who's computers you admire and we will go from there.
     7:                                Rod

    Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 04:34:39

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    He's giving depositions in his lawsuit. As you may remember, he decided to
    sue his school newspaper for suspending him after he published a cartoon.

    As for what's new with me -- I am simulataneously very busy and very bored.
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     1:        Yeah, I'm bored too.  I need to pull a 'Petrisko'.  Any ideas?
     2:Carter had a good one on the COS SIG.  Are you going to the gun show at the
     3:fairgrounds this weekend?  I am going Sunday afternoon.  I am looking for
     4:what was stolen from me.
     5:                                Rod

    Creative Corner Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2163
    Author: $ Mike Howerton
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Easter
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 00:05:18

    So I was close.

    I feel so un-informed.

    The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 2870
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Cosmos-Chatter
    Subject: 2869/Rod
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 08:15:47

    Bullshit!

    Message: 2871
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Answer !
    Subject: Daryl/2870
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 11:05:22

            It's true.  Your body is your own worst enemy.  It gets sick, tired,
    hungry, gotta take poops and pees.  It's farts at the worst moments and when
    you are in the process of love making the ole stomach growls.
            Is all of the above from your God.  Or Satan?
                            -Rod
    P.S.  I forgot to mention that the body gets hot and cold, usually one or
    the other.  Hardly ever totally comfortable.  And there are diseases just
    waiting to jump your bones.  Beautiful thing the body, eh?

    Bulletin Board command:$C

    Message: 57345
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Transit/Rod
    Date: 03/03/89  Time: 20:45:21

            Other places have this so called 'Mass-Transit' and they did not
    screw up the economy nor did taxes go up because of lost gas sales.  There
    will be other job created by the system.... and jobs lost.... there is
    always a trade-off, but it evens out.  When the auto came, people thought
    thought the economy would go to pot because of all the people that worked
    with horse carriages and other horse related businesses.  But instead they
    were replaced with auto related businesses, which has proven to be big
    business and not just a fad.
            The auto does not pollute nearly as much as other industry and just
    plain 'dirt unpaved roads' do.  Cigarette smoke is for pleasure and can be
    done without.  Transportation is far more important, and it is preposterous
    to even compare the two.  It has nothing to do with 'the Governor driving'
    either.   We are in a communications type world that is bringing us closer
    together.  The closer we get, the less suspicions and fear we have... and
    the less WARs we will have.  Communications is the name of the game for the
    future.  A world of 'BIKES' would lead to isolation, and that breeds
    superstition and fear.

            By the way, I am against those silly trains in the sky.  They are so
    UGLY and I never liked them in New York, nor will I like or use them here.
    Our Mayor said we need them for growth... But I don't want Phoenix to
    grow any more.  It already is too large and unmanageable for efficient
    service for the people already here.   More growth.... B^)) $#!+
    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 57346
    Author: James Schoonover
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: NOTHING IMPORTANT
    Date: 03/03/89  Time: 23:08:38

    HI OUT THERE IN BBS LAND.  IM NEW TO THIS SYSTEM AND BBS-ING.  I AM
    JUST WRITING NOW HOPING I COULD GET A GOOD PEN PAL, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
    PREFERABLY A FEMALE, NO OFFENCE OUT THERE.  BUT ANYWAY, ANYONE INTERESTED
    IN ANSERING I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.  THANKS.

    Message: 57347
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: isolation
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 04:46:30

    Society without the automobile might be isolated in terms of the ability to
    easily traverse long distances, but it can be argued that cars actually
    bring about isolation. Without automobiles I think we might see the
    re-emergence of neighborhoods with greater population density. It would be
    nice to live in an environment where people walked or biked -- it would be
    much easier to get to know one's neighbors.

    Message: 57348
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann/57338
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 08:19:20

    Mecham commited violent political suicide already. His black-slurring,
    gay-bashing, criminal buddy-buddy antics while in office were more effective
    than any blade to the wrist.

    Message: 57349
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 57344/Rod
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 08:29:25

    Provide proof of my insanity, Rod. You were the one that brought up crack
    and it's "utopian" effects. Seems you've tried just about everything else,
    haven't you? I'd think by now you'd have developed an immunity. Denying
    Christ, and in the same breath turning to drugs for escape/whatever seems
    more like irrational behavior than the 'insane' life you claim I lead.

    Message: 57350
    Author: $ Daryl Westfall
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: 57345/Cliff
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 08:37:43

    I don't see how a world of bikes would lead to isolation and fear, let alone
    superstition(?). I look at it this way, if we all had bikes, there would be
    no "rolled-up-windows" isolation that you find in most automobiles, there
    would not be this "superego" that seems to attack many drivers as soon as
    they get behind the wheel. Drunk drivers, would not be able to balance their
    bikes, and would simply fall to the ground, the open air atmosphere of
    bicycling would lead to more conversation among other bike riders, the noise
    level would CEASE to be, collisions would be easier to avoid and far less
    fatal, THERE ISN'T A PLACE ON A BIKE FOR THOSE STUPID "YES, AS A MATTER OF
    FACT I DO OWN THE WHOLE DAMN ROAD" BUMPER STICKERS, and speeding would not
    be a problem as the average rider cannot exceed 20 mph. Where does the
    superstition aspect come into play? Bringing people together under the open
    air with no windows to seperate and blaring radios to contend with, I see
    more friendliness and closeness resulting between bicyclists. AND YOU CAN'T
    PUT 18" WOOFERS ON A SCHWINN, so that's reason enough to enforce a bikes
    only law! (Heh heh)

    Message: 57351
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 09:26:13

            I don't recall a "Black-Slurring" at all...  And as for Gays.. I
    assume as a Christian, you are for the gays?

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 57352
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: bikes...
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 09:34:15

    Of course there would be local closeness... but the cities and states would
    get far apart.  And the countries would practicly vanish out of sight.
    No cars equal no trucks... less trade...  darkages all over again.
    I have seen some pretty big WOOFERS on bikes.   I have been to countries
    overseas that have huge bike populations and have not felt this friendly
    biking you speak of when I went biking in among the locals.  You will see
    speeders, and bumper stickers...and even crime....  People will always find
    away to do their dirty work.

    *=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

    Message: 57353
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/insanity
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 11:09:02

            I can't provide proof of your insanity.  You'll just have to take my
    word for it.
                            -Rod

    Message: 57354
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Nick/Bikes
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 11:15:21

            Yesterday afternoon I was having a conversation with a car dealer
    about my message of a few days ago.  He pointed out that our economy is
    based on four wheels and then I pointed out that the city would have to tax
    bike tires one hundred dollars in order to make up for lost revenue.  Your
    message was prophetic.
            Your message on bikes making the world a closer place was also true.
    When I drive down a street I notice little but when I bike, well it is like
    being a kid again and I see all the little speciality shops that I have been
    driving by for years without noticing and I just say wow.
            I live on a corner and our children are, in effect, prisioners of
    the block, so to speak.  Much of their freedoms are taken away because of
    the closeness of the automobile.  Tis sad.  Why don't I move, you ask.
    Because I am an economic slave, I answer.  I guess I could relocate to the
    river bottom where there are no cars.           -Rod

    Message: 57355
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff/Cars
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 11:25:01

            Although your messsage was good, I think that Nick's points, as far
    as neighborhood stability goes was better.
            Look at the busy streets.  See all the cars with only one occupant.
    It is a wasteland of steel and concrete, so unfriendly.
            I am for a good mass transit system but not the one the city is
    proposing.  It sounds like they want to really rip us off and keep the
    streets torn up for 30 years.  And you realize that their cost estimate is
    only that, an estimate.
            If a person spends one dollar every second, day and night, for 33
    years they would have spent one billion dollars.  The transit follie sounds
    to me like U of A spending $29,000 for a re-design of thier A.  Wouldn't it
    have been nice if U of A had given the job to thier local art department?
    They could have had a contest, giving away $1000 to the lucky winner.  ANd
    their accounting department could have figured costs for replacing
    stationary.  Why Baltimore, why $29 grand.  Sounds like the ole
    brother-in-law syndrome to me.                  -Rod

    Message: 57356
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Daryl/57350/bikes
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 11:27:38

            Man, that was a ultra-sane message.  You sure aren't crazy in that
    respect.  I loved it.  Good show.
                            -Rod
    P.S.  You're only half-crazy, brother.

    Message: 57357
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 03/04/89  Time: 11:34:34

            Highway automobiles would be useful.  In that way, one could travel
    over large expanses of land in order to get from place to place.  Why must I
    eat lunch with a car belching in my face?
            Besides, have you ever driven by a pretty girl who was biking?  You
    can't see that if everyone drove a car. -Rod

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