### Apollo BBS Archive - September 3, 1989

    Mail from Apollo SYSOP
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 00:47:05

    I would like the one in the living room.  It has a Laser Disk connector...
    and I have a LAser disk player...  by the same company.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
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     1:Okay, it's a deal.  His arcadia door lock is keyed to my house.  I suggest
     2:that we wear coveralls with a moving company logo.  I can probably find
     3:several pair at a thrift store.  We could rent a Ryder Truck and clean him
     4:out.  He would naturally suspect the Mafia from Tommies so we would be in
     5:the clear.  We just would not be able to invite him over again.  Or to be
     6:safe, we could have Sandy 'hit' him and it would then be blamed on the
     7:people in the gambling industry.

    Mail from Charles Finney
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 04:37:04

    RE: 60675

    Hehehehe!

    Is that like a modern version of a prayer wheel?
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     1:Yes, it is the electronic age answer to the old, water prayer-wheel.  It
     2:would totally get rid of the flucuation in water-current rate.  The gods
     3:would then be more impressed.
     4:
     5:        The prayer would read something like this:
     6:
     7:                O'Lard, please see to it that Cliffy hits the bulls-eye
     8:                with his revolver.  If a paper target, into the center
     9:                and if a enemy, into the heart.  Thank you, O'Lord,amen.

    Mail from Apollo SYSOP
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 13:38:43

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha... I would serve James right for taking off and not
    telling us (His good friends), but I like him too much to want to rip him
    off....  But next time he takes off with out asking us...  we will get him!

    Ha ha ha ha

    -Cliff
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     1:We should be hearing from James soon, I hope!

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    Message: 5859
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann/last
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 06:04:10

    Like wow! You have lumped a whole bunch of popular misconceptions into one
    post there, gal! Don't know if I can answer all of them at once, except to
    say that, rather than follow the doctrines and traditions of men, look to
    the Word of God, which is consistent and the ultimate truth, and follow it.
    If the Bible does not address a certain subject, then it is up to you to use
    your God-given sanctified common sense and good judgement to adress th
    subject in the most Godlike way you can, walking always in the light that
    God has given you.
     As to the age of the world, since all the "believers" cannot come up with
    one scintilla of actual evidence to support their 8-9000 year old theory,
    and since there is plenty of room between Genesis 1:1 and 1:3 to allow for
    millions of years of development, and since there are valid tests that can
    date matter to millions of years, we have to go along with the idea that the
    world is much older than some would have us believe. If we then can read the
    Genesis record with an open mind and from a slightly different angle, it
    tells us quite a different story. True, but different.
     As to those who think that "the devil made me do it", or that "God gave me
    some horrible physical problem to teach me a lesson", or that the fallacy
    called reincarnation has any validity at all, all three are totally
    unscriptural, man made falsehoods. The first is a Freudian copout from
    personal responsibility, of which the Bible speaks frequently, the second is
    a misapplication of the fact that God is able to turn that which would be a
    negative in your life into a positive, but does NOT cause those negatives,
    and the third is easily disproved by one scripture. Hebrews 9:27.

    Message: 5860
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Ann again
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 06:07:01

    Re: the "unscientific" post. I forgot the conversation on that one, so
    remind me if you want to continue it, but please don't eat your hat, It's
    probably not digestible. (BTW, scientists come up with a lot of unscientific
    stuff, too.)

    Message: 5861
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 06:08:19

    So the devil made you the way you are, huh? Well, I'm sure that God is happy
    to be relieved of THAT terrible burden! (smile)

    Message: 5862
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: God
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 09:42:23

    God is the answer to questions
    that have no answer.

    Very few people read the Bible with their own mind, they see it
    the way their minister wants them to see it. We have a mind but when
    it comes to the bible we are told what it means

    Message: 5863
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: God Speaks
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 13:13:31

    Yes, He speaks to me all the time through the Holy Bible.  The only problem
    is that He is so ambiguous that now I am confused.

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    Message: 307
    Author: $ Kim Paskiewicz
    Category: Bit Bucket Talk
    Subject: OK Cliff
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 04:46:35

      It the truth, and put the money in a plain white, oops forget the money.
    Kim V. Paskiewicz A.S.B.B.Ser

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    Message: 60676
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: MAP
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 05:47:36

     I recently received an offer to convert to MAP from my mortgage company.
     If it wasn't for the fact that my house is on the market, and for the fact
    that I am on a limited, once-a-month income, it sounds like a pretty good
    deal. It's not for me, but for someone on a weekly income with a long time
    left to pay on their mortgage, it could amount to a significant savings.

    Message: 60677
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Libertarian
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 13:20:06

    On C-Span this week the 1989 Libertarian Convention is being held.  It has
    thus far been very interesting.

    On another note, it looks like taxes are going to be going up quite
    substantially.  Perhaps this will be 'the straw' that breaks the taxpayers
    backs.  Should be interesting.

    Of course we need the money to fight the drug problem, ha,ha, and then again
    we need it to support Israel and some other foreign interests.

    Another Arizona bank went belly-up this past week.  That makes three for the
    year so far, not to mention the thrifts.

    Message: 60678
    Author: Mike Carter
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Cliff on Pansys
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 14:49:11

    EXCUUUUUSSSEEE MEEEEE!

    But some of us have HOUSE payments and CAR payments and OTHER
    things that we PREFERR to do with our money.
    (When there is any to spend).
    I have found the prices for these gun courses to be somewhat
    prohibitive. FOr the $1500 , I'd rather get my commercial pilots
    ticket and *make* money.
    Insinuating only "pansies" don't attend gun courses is like
    me stating or insinuating that only geeks don't have their
    ham-radio ticket.

    But you didn't mean it that way. I know. But you simply must
    refrain from adding derogatory terms .

    Message: 60679
    Author: Mike Carter
    Category: Question?
    Subject: MAP
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 14:55:25

    This has been a widely known fact for many many years to
    home-owners. I'm not curious enough to call, but
    one thing I'm wondering about:
    Is this some business? If so, why would anyone pay $$$ to
    do something they can do all by themselves?

    I know....

    Like most of my "worldly" friends have said at one time or another;
    "The only way to make big bucks quickly these days is through
     a SCAM"

    True, but unfortunate. DISCLAIMER: I'm not suggesting "MAP" is
     a scam. O.k..you've been disclaimed.

            -Mike

    Message: 60680
    Author: Tom Weller  *** NOTE: I uploaded this.
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Thoughts
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 16:27:40

    ON THE ORIGIN OF MAN

    Creationists believe that man was instantaneously created
    by God, based on an account in a book called, "the Bible."

    Several thousand years ago, a small tribe of ignorant near-
    savages wrote various collections of myths, wild tales, lies
    and gibberish. Over the centuries, these stories were em-
    broidered, garbled, mutilated, and torn into small pieces
    that were then repeatedly shuffled. Finally, this material
    was badly translated into several languages successively.

    The resultant text, creationists feel, is the best guide to
    this complex and technical subject.

    Religions are like glow worms; they require darkness to shine
    in. -- A. Schopenhauer  (1788-1860)

    Message: 60681
    Author: Ella Wilcox
    Category: Religion
    Subject: Food for thought
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 16:57:08

    Since some of you have been 'talking religion', here are a few:

                Hell is an outrage against humanity...Every step
    which intelligence has made in Europe from the edge of darkness
    has been in spite of the church --- Victor Hugo (1802-1885)

                If religious people are so happy, why do they pray
    so much? -- Anon.

                Religions die when they are proved to be true.
    Science is the record of dead religions -- Oscar Wilde
    (1856-1900)

                Truth is the poison of religion. When it is
    discovered religion dies.  Truth is the food of science. When it
    is ingested, science evolves.  -- Zak Woodruff

                What ever knowledge is attainable must be attainable
    by scientific methods; and what science cannot discover, mankind
    cannot know. -- Bertrand Russell, 1935

          Science can only ascertain what is, but not what should
    be, and value judgements of all kinds remain outside of its
    domain. -- Albert Einstein, 1950

    Message: 60682
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Mike on $1500
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 18:34:00

            Where in the heck did you get that figure?  I also have a house
    payment...
            $25.00 for the Basic, and $29.50 for each of the four parts to
    Intermediate, and $27.50 for each of the five parts to Advance.
            You go make money Mike.. I will protect myself and be there to help
    carry your casket should you become the victim of a crime you are unable to
    defend yourself from.  Because... making money is your prime reason for
    living.
            Yes, I did not mean 'pansy' quite the way your post reflected.  I
    just wanted to joust some of those lazy BUMs (NicK Ianuzzi) out of their
    easy chairs.  Ha ha ha ha... in short... it was ment as humor.

            Honest, it does not cost that much...  It does take time however.

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 60683
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 18:56:57

    Re:  "Everyone else is a figment of Cliff or JT's
    imagination."

    What a relief!  For a second there I thought you were going to say I was a
    figment of Cliff's imagination.

    Message: 60684
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Rod
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 18:58:56

    Re:  "And I am the anti-christ."

    Was it by chance that the message number of your message was 60666??
    Maybe you're a beast instead of the anti-christ.

    Message: 60685
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Cliff
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 19:02:04

    Re:  "I scored a 801 to qualify for a pin."

    A pin?  We have all kinds of pins around the house.  We got bobby pins, we
    got stick pins, we got safety pins, etc.  Your welcome to borrow a few if
    you like.

    Message: 60686
    Author: $ Bob Thornburg
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Tom W
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 19:05:19

    Re:  "garbled, mutilated, and torn"

    You and Rod should get along real well.  Do you know each other by chance?

    Hey Rod, check this guy out!

    Message: 60687
    Author: Ed Gates
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Tom Weller
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 19:42:52

    When are you coming out with your next book?

    Message: 60688
    Author: Ed Gates
    Category: War!
    Subject: Wilfred Brimley
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 19:49:24

    Oh, I almost forgot.  Today I read in the paper (it was on CNN, too) where
    that old guy who does Quaker Oats commercials, Wilfred Brimley, secretly
    runs a whorehouse in Nevada.  He also belongs to Santeria, a cult of animal
    sacrifice mixing elements of Catholicism and African heathenism.  As a point
    of interest, Santeria worshippers can be identified by the symbols they use,
    the most universal of which is that wooden, cigar smoking indian that used
    to sit outside general stores across the nation.  I'm not sure why they use
    this, but I swear it's true.

    Message: 60689
    Author: Tim Smith
    Category: Question?
    Subject: Tom Weller
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 22:48:13

    I called the toll free number on page 64 (in the box containing the
    drawing of Dr. Gene Scott) one night a couple of months ago.  It was about
    3:30 am and I was reading in bed, and just decided to call the number.  To
    my astonishment, Dr. Gene Scott answered.  He was apparently running some
    sort of TV show, because he asked me whether I was watching on satellite or
    cable.  I told him, neither, that I was reading a book called "Science Made
    Stupid", and on pg. 64 there was a drawing of him, with his phone number.
    He said something to the effect that "Well, that's mighty interesting.  You
    save that book, because it's a collector's item." and then he hung up.

    I also tried calling "Loschmidt's number" (in the glossary on pg. 75), but
    that was apparently an invalid number.

    Weller's other book in the same format, "Cvltvre Made Stvpid", is also
    uproariously funny.

    Message: 60690
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: *foo* made stupid
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 22:59:45

    Culture made Stupid is not quite as funny, as far as I am concerned.

    Message: 60691
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ella Wilcox
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 23:00:35

    Welcome Back, Zak!

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    Message: 581
    Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Last...
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 00:48:54

            I am getting better at that too!

    *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

    Message: 582
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Rod's expression
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 01:50:48

    I think it has steadily improved since he stoppped smoking pot.

    Message: 583
    Author: $ Ralph Blehm
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: All
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 09:33:47

    My Grammae died at the age of 96.

    Message: 584
    Author: $ Beauregard Dog
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 10:26:26

    I got a Grammy at last year's awards.

    Message: 585
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: B. Doggie/pot
    Date: 09/03/89  Time: 13:21:39

    Yes, LSD has quite a bit more expression in it that plain ole' pot.

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