### Apollo BBS Archive - September 25, 1988

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    Message: 4308
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Jasmine's father
    Date: 09/24/88  Time: 18:40:23

    OK, it sounds as though he's not a dolt, even if he knows nothing about the
    economy.

    Message: 4309
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Entertainment
    Subject: Travis Sysop
    Date: 09/2

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     1:        Last year (?) Jasmine's father was hear and it was during the time
     2:when the high unemployment figures had just gone down.  He looked at me and
     3:said, "Many people were just dropped from the rolls and this made our
     4:figures look better."  That's it for what it is worth.
     5:(I think I got it right this time.)
     6:                                Rod
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    Message: 4309
    Author: $ Paul Savage
    Category: Entertainment
    Subject: Travis Sysop
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 04:50:33

    Happy birthday two ewe!
    Happy birthday two ewe!
    Happy birthday, deer ewe!
    Happy birthday two ewe!!!

    Message: 4310
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Travis
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 05:55:48

    Happy birthday fellow and many more. =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 4311
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: Travis
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 16:47:25

            When Travis gets through playing with his new remote control truck,
    a rather big and nice one, he can log on and gaze at all these wonderful
    Happy Wishes.
            Of course, he will also have to wait until Cliff is through playing
    with the truck as well........

    Message: 4312
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit-Chat
    Subject: JT/Father
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 16:54:35

            Last year (?) Jasmine's father was here and it was during the time
    when the high unemployment figures had just gone down.  He looked at me and
    said, "Many people were just dropped from the rolls and this made our
    figures look better."  That's it for what it is worth.
    (I think I got it right this time.)
                                    Rod

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     1:        I'm about to leave a nice left wing message on the main board just
     2:to give you right wingers and gad flys somethng to do.
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    Message: 4314
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Question?
    Subject: David/JT/Dean
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 19:54:31

          As reported in the Arizona Republic, Business Section, the
    failure of the thrift corporations in this country are the direct
    result of bad construction and real estate loans.  It didn't give
    specific data figures but I am assuming that the real estate loans they
    mention are not all business property related as thrift institutions
    are also into financing private housing.  Does anyone have access to
    these statistics?                       Rod

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     1:        Two of my children are in advanced classes.  Solomon is a freshman
     2:and he is in the junior class for mathematics.  Busy is in grade school and
     3:is taking all subjects in an advanced class.  This was determined by the
     4:tests they were given in school.
     5:        Children having access to good computer systems is a big help, it
     6:gives them a good advantage in life.  Now just watch, they will probably
     7:become computer criminals.
     8:                                Rod
     9:end

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    Message: 1015
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Question?
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 16:48:49

            Does this mean the Kontest is on?

            Shall I rev my brain and get in gear?

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     1:        I, personally will be offering a $10 reward to the best pic.
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    Message: 54286
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Weekly World News
    Date: 09/24/88  Time: 18:44:24

    Here's an interesting item from the "letters" column of the current issue of
    Weekly World News:

         Editors:  The story about the guy who eats tonsils cut from other
    people (Weekly World News, September 20) is the most disgusting thing I've
    ever read anywhere.  And I find it insulting that you'd actually run a
    picture of him popping them down like oysters.
         That's cannibalism, pure and simple, and I think even in England that
    must be against the law.  He ought to be behind bars.  What do you think
    he'd say to that? -- R.O., Seattle, Wash.

    Message: 54287
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/24/88  Time: 19:08:07

    "I'm hungry!"

    Message: 54288
    Author: $ Todd Reese
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Ann
    Date: 09/24/88  Time: 19:09:17

    JT uses demeaning metaphors for two reasons:

    1)  He's a journalist
    2)  He wants attention

    Message: 54289
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: Williams/military
    Date: 09/24/88  Time: 19:43:18

    "Our few thousand missles [sic] should be sufficient until our internal
    problems are settled."

    I think you hit on a good point there.  And that is exactly what the
    military is doing, attempting to have just enough of the right arms to
    effectively defend the U.S. and its interests.  I suppose the disagreement
    stems from whose definition of "just enough" we deem correct.

    In the case of nuclear missiles (this is how it's really spelt [sic]), one
    must not only have enough to be able to target most/all major military and
    industrial sites, but must have enough to do so *AFTER* an initial strike
    may have disabled any number of missiles.  Thus, just because the world
    could be destroyed many times over (as some claim) if all missiles were
    fired at the same time, and all succeeded in their mission, this scenario is
    highly unlikely.

    Note that SDI might help the U.S. eventually get more bang (better defense)
    for the buck (at lower maintenance costs), while making us even safer.

    Keep that in mind when you write your elected officials (you do write, don't
    you?)

    Michael Kielsky

    Message: 54290
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: My research...
    Date: 09/24/88  Time: 19:44:21

    Not a lot of responses, here...

    And my house at 48th Street & Broadway is still for rent...(call 276-4663)

    Michael Kielsky

    Message: 54291
    Author: $ Carol Graham
    Category: Answer!
    Subject: JT
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 01:04:05

    That was disgusting.

    Why did you bother?

    Carol->

    Message: 54292
    Author: Michael Kielsky
    Category: Question?
    Subject: [S]tore Address
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 01:13:04

    I keep trying to store my address via the main menu [S]tore Address command,
    but it keeps printing out some other address every time?!?

    What's going on here?

    Michael Kielsky

    Message: 54293
    Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: last
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 05:08:01

    What a funny guy.

    Message: 54294
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Todd
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 05:53:03

    Your right about the attention - but what does a journalist have to do with
    it? =*--ANN--*=

    Message: 54295
    Author: David Hale
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Words of wisdom
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 10:11:08

    You are likely to capture a greater quantity of houseflies if you
    discontinue utilization of acetic acid, and instead employ syrup produced
    within the interior of beehives, as an agent for attracting the
    aforementioned winged arthropods.

    A deficit of forethought engenders the inefficient utilization of resources.

    Message: 54296
    Author: $ Dean Hathaway
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Me
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 10:50:15

      I am going to away for awhile, but fear not, I shall return.
         See you later,
           Dean H.

    Message: 54297
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Project Censored
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 14:05:05

    The information monopoly

      The rapidly increasing concentration of media ownership in
    the U.S. raises critical questions about whether the public
    has access to diverse opinion.  And not surprisingly, the
    impact of this information monopoly continues to be ignored
    by the mass media.
      In 1982, when media expert Ben Bagdikian completed
    research for his book *The Media Monopoly*, he found that 50
    corporations controlled half or more of the media
    business.  By December 1986, when he finished a revision
    for a second edition, that figure had shrunk to 29
    corporations.  Six months later, when he wrote an article
    for the media publication *Extra*, the number was down to
    26.  Some Wall Street media analysts predict that by the
    1990s six giant firms will control most of our media.
      Bagdikian notes that of the 1,700 daily papers, 98 percent
    are local monopolies and fewer than 15 corporations control
    most of the country's circulation.  A handful of firms
    control most of the magazine business, with Time, Inc. alone
    accounting for about 40 percent of that industry's revenues.
    The three broadcasting networks - Capital Cities/ABC, CBS,
    and NBC - still have majority access to the television
    audience, and most of the book business is controlled by

    Message: 54298
    Author: Apro Poet
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Project Censored
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 14:15:21

    fewer than a dozen companies, with major categories like
    paperback and trade books dominated by still fewer firms.
      The situation is exacerbated by the conflict of interest
    caused by interlocking boards of directors.  An earlier
    study, by Peter Dreier and Steven Weinberg, found this
    phenomenon in major newspaper chains like Gannet, which
    shared directors with Merrill Lynch, Standard Oil of Ohio,
    20th Century Fox, Kerr-McGee, McDonnell Douglas, McGraw-Hill,
    Eastern Airlines, Phillips Petroleum, Kellogg Company, and
    New York Telephone.
      The most influential newspaper in America, *The New York
    Times*, shared directors with Merck, Morgan Guaranty Trust,
    Bristol-Myers, Charter Oil, Johns-Manville, American
    Express, Bethlehem Steel, IBM, Scott Paper, Sun Oil, and
    First Boston Corporation.
      Bagdikian's warning is onimous: "A shrinking number of
    large media corporations now regard monopoly and historic
    levels of profit as not only normal, but as their earned
    right.  In the process, the usual democratic expectations
    for the media - diversity of ownership and ideas - have
    disappeared."

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     1:nd sick with
    21:hatred and a military buildup seems to be our leaders answers.
    22:                                Rod
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    Message: 54299
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Politics
    Subject: Left Wing
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 17:00:44

          I do not have the correct figures for the total costs of the
    development and manufacture of the B1 Bomber although I would suspect
    that it would be enough to provide adequate food, water, education,
    health and housing for everyone in the world for one year.  These
    costs have been estimated to be $17 billion dollars a year, or about
    as much as the world spends on arms every two weeks.
          It is fine to have adequate defenses for your soil but I
    strongly suspect that the Reagan Administration would like to see the
    U.S. as strong as it was in 1946 and thereby being able to dictate its
    policy worldwide.  In so attempting, we have used enough manpower and
    material to have brought about a fair peace only if the leaders of
    this nation had intelligence and foresight.
          I also am told that our F15 and F16 fighter aircraft have a
    little problem in that for every hour they are in flight, as many as
    50 hours have to be spent in maintenance.  Star Wars is another
    examply of military insanity that has hurt our nation.  It is no
    wonder that we as a nation are now the biggest debtor in the world.
    Someone should give Reagan two six-shooters and send him over to our
    enemy and have a fast draw match to determine whether he lives or
    dies.  Leave me out of this.  This world is paranoid and sick with
    hatred and a military buildup seems to be our leaders answers.
                                    Rod

    Message: 54300
    Author: $ Jim Lippard
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: drugs/Netherlands
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 17:16:39

    In the ten years of marijuana decriminalization in the Netherlands,
    marijuana use among teens has declined, as has heroin use.  Marijuana and
    hashish is not subsidized by the government.
       Heroin use in the U.S., on the other hand, has gone up in the last ten
    years.  Marijuana use has dropped slightly.  Use of both heroin and
    marijuana is higher per-capita in the U.S. than in the Netherlands (by
    about 10 times for heroin).

    Message: 54301
    Author: $ Rod Williams
    Category: Chit Chat
    Subject: Right Wing
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 19:53:07

          The United States is surrounded by hostile nations and if our
    military becomes lax, the freedoms we enjoy will no longer exist.  It
    is unfortunate that we have homeless and hungry people within our
    borders but if we cut our military spending in order to feed, house,
    and clothe the unfortunate, we would be endangering every soul in this
    nation.
          Our leaders have the interest of the people at heart, after all,
    do we not enjoy the most freedoms of any country on this bleak planet?
    Even though the vast majority of our working class is struggling,
    in other nations the people suffer at least twice as much.  In Russia
    for instance, their leaders are basically evil.  They have only their
    own interests at heart and no others.  They, deep down, know that the
    United States' system of democracy is by far the best in the world but
    when you are a totally self-serving entity, no one else matters.
          It should not be alarming that in a few years, six or seven
    corporations will control the information media, because in other
    countries only one group controls it.  It should not matter that in
    order for the working class to purchase a home in American that it
    takes 30 years and more than one job, because in communist countries
    you can never own one.  We should stop knocking this system as it is
    the best system on the face of the earth.
          If we invest our energy and resources in better weapons of
    defense perhaps we can become the leaders of other nations.  We must,
    at any cost, stamp out Communism in this world.       R
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    Message: 289
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: Story
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 06:08:48

    Sandy and Cliff heard this noise coming from Travis's room. They got up an
    went to his room, finding him thrashing around in his bed. Sandy shook him
    awake. "Travis darling. You are having a nightmare! Wake up!"
    Travis slowly sat up and looked around. "Mommy! I'm scared and had a bad
    dream!"
    "There, there baby. Nothing to be afraid of. You've been listening to us
    talk too much. Go back to sleep. Mommy will sit here with you for awhile!"
    Travis layed back down and in a brief while, was asleep again.

    Mean while, clear across town - Mike Carter sat in his den with the door
    closed. He could hear his wife and kids in the next room laughing and
    playing. But his thoughts were on other things! He had just got through
    reading the paper and was sitting there in a cold sweat. He started to read
    it again. It said .....

    Message: 290
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: The paper!
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 06:10:08

    Final                                                     35 CENTS
    Edition             THE ARIZONA REPULSIVE
                     *copyright 1988, Arizona Repulsive
    _____________________________________________________________________
    Sat. Oct. 1, 1988                                 99th year, no. 129
    _____________________________________________________________________

    MULTIPLE MURDERS OCCUR IN VALLEY. ::LOCAL PSYCHOLOGIST COMMENTS ON
         This morning the Phoenix     ::         THE MURDERS.
    police found 2 horribly murdered  ::    Noted psychologist, Steve
    young men. They were so brutally  ::King gave his ideas on the
    hacked up that they could not     ::killings to reporter Don Knotts.
    identify them and had to do so    ::"In my opinion" said Dr. King,
    through dental records. The men's ::"these murders fall into the
    names are Beau Dog and Jim Lippard::category of revenge type killings.
    and were reported to have been the::I've seen it many times before.
    best of friends and excellent     ::The murderer is out to get the
    Jugglers! One soft hearted cop had::people he feels have slighted him
    tears in his eyes after seeing the::in the past. It doesn't even have
    the juggling equipment standing in::to be something major! It could
    the corner. "Who would do such a  ::even be a joke, but with the
    thing?" he sobbed to reporter Don ::seemingly diabolical mind of this
    Bowles. "This is the act of a ... ::killer, his past friends ...
    _____________Cont. page A-16______::___________ Cont. page B-44 _____

    Message: 291
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: The Obit.
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 06:11:32

    E-2 The Arizona Repulsive     Oct. 1, 1988 **
    _____________________________________________________________________
    OBITUARIES
    ____________________________________________________________________
    Phoenix. - Carl Nonperson died::Pittsburg. - Jeannie Innajug died of
    at his home late today. Family::unknow causes in a lonely motel room
    and friends will gather at the::on the outskirts of Pittsburg. Her
    Resthaven Mortuary to pay him ::body was found in pieces all over the
    final respects at 2:PM sat.   ::room. The maid that found her swears
    ------------------------------::that it was such a horrible sight,
    Mesa. - Susie Smartazz died at::she will never get over it and is
    Mesa Memorial hospital today. ::committing herself to 'Twinkie Land'
    Her remains can be viewed at  ::mental hospital when she finishes her
    the Mesa cemetery between 9:AM::statement to the authorities.
    and 5:PM on sunday. Those who ::Local police have hinted to the press
    wish to give flowers, the     ::that this murder might be linked to
    family asks to please give to ::the recent ones in Phoenix Arizona.
    the United Way instead and    ::When questioned by reporters, one
    do this in memory of Susie.   ::officer said 5 murders had occurred
    ------------------------------::in the past 2 weeks and each victim
    Chandler. - Sly Stonehead died::was a member of Apollo BBS - a local
    of natural causes in his home.::bulletin board that operates computer
    His organ has been donated    ::to computer in Phoenix. Ms. Innajug
    to the Phoenix women's club.__::was a member of that club.___________

    Message: 292
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: Story
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 06:35:16

    After reading it again, he let it drop to the floor.
    "So, Beau and Jim are dead and so is Jeannie too! Poor JT! Even he did not
    deserve to die like that!" he thought to himself. "This has got to be
    stopped."
    The light from the fireplace cast flickering shadows along the walls and
    Mikes face. He sat slumped in the wing backed chair trying to get his
    thoughts together. He did not notice that he was not alone!
    He reached down and took his shoes off so he could warm his feet by the
    fire. He felt so cold and clammy. He did not see the hulking figure behind
    him. All he heard was -- 'WHACK!' --- 'WHACK!"
    He looked down at his feet and they looked funny to him. He bent down to
    look closer and suddenly blood gushed up and splattered his shirt front! He
    was not frightened, only puzzled on why his feet were bleeding.

    Two hours later, Mrs. Carter wondered why her husband was staying in the den
    so long and she went to see. When she opened the door, she just stood there
    taking in the scene. There was Mike, laying on the floor in front of the
    fireplace. His feet had cleanly been cut off at the ankles. One foot had
    been stuffed in his mouth and the other up his rectum - his eyes were glazed
    and seemed to be looking at her.
    Just before she screemed, she thought she heard an evil laugh somewhere in
    the night --- "hahahahahahahahahahah!"
    Later, she forgot to report that to the police!

    Message: 293
    Author: $ Ann Oudin
    Category: Annie the ASSp
    Subject: Authors note:
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 06:42:05

    I can't believe I'm writing stuff like this at 6:45 AM!

    Message: 294
    Author: $ James Taranto
    Category: Christian Rod!
    Subject: Last
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 09:02:59

    I can.

    Message: 295
    Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
    Category: Tawdry Tales
    Subject: Story
    Date: 09/25/88  Time: 13:10:30

            "Cliff, it's the phone again. Want to answer it or do you want me
    to?" queries the sleepless Sandy Sysop. Ever since the news sensationalized
    the gruesome, loathing, grisly story yesterday, the Mighty Sysops haven't
    been getting much sleep. The phone rings and rings and rings. The members of
    the Apollo BBS are running scared this day; everyone wanting to cancel
    their $tatus.
           "How will we ever make a living?" moans Cliff as he puts the receiver
    back.
            Sandy tries to sooth poor Cliffy Sysop. "Now, now, there. Something
    will happen soon, I'm sure." She looks toward her weapons stash and smiles.
    "No dead person will be allowed to roam the streets and scare my family,"
    Ms Sysop thinks to herself. "The time has come to take the Bull by the Balls
    and do something!"
            Waiting for Cliff to regain his calm posture, Sandy plans for the
    evenings events. Now that the paper is out and the story spattered all over
    the front page ...... the corpse of David Burkhart will know Rod is still
    ALIVE! What planning ..... what grace ..... who can compete with the Mighty
    Ms Sysop and her prowess? But first things first. She must, with all her
    might, try to talk to Digger; one of the most disgusting events of the
    evening. She gathers a few implements and heads out the door.
            At "SlumberLand Cemetery" she .......

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