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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/05/91 23:04  Msg:6411 Call:37049 Lines:2
 20 A new disk for the system, and a new era for the USSR.
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003=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/05/91 23:40  Msg:6412 Call:37050 Lines:35
 22 &*&*&*&*'s
 23  
 24 At the top!
 25  
 26 And now for another poem.
 27  
 28 Food for thought
 29 A well used phrase
 30 A meaning tied to it
 31  
 32 A table turned
 33 A light gone out
 34 A laddle in the churn
 35  
 36 Central meanings ofteen hide the outer inner piece
 37 And moments turn upon the world with hidden scary feet
 38  
 39 The mantle taken is heavy still
 40 Though the thought is not complete
 41 The mounting cost of holding it
 42 can make of life a cheat
 43  
 44 Shelter holds the wealth of hiding
 45 As do the words we speak
 46 They carry us into the future
 47 And of the past bespeak
 48  
 49 Calous in inception
 50 Loose beyond belief
 51 Knowing that you've found it
 52 And lost it to a thief
 53  
 54 An Astral Dreamer
 55 &*&*&*&*'s (And so the world changes.)
 56  
004=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      09/06/91 18:04  Msg:6414 Call:37070 Lines:101
 57                                                                
 58  By DAN CARMICHAEL
 59    WASHINGTON (UPI) -- A federal grand jury Friday returned a 10-count
 60 indictment against Clair George, formerly the third highest official of the CIA
 61 accusing him of perjury in trying to cover up the Iran-Contra scandal.
 62    George was the CIA's deputy director of operations from 1984 to 1987.s The
 63 indictment accuses him of perjury, false statements and obstruction in
 64 connection with congressional and grand jury investigations into the Iran-Contr
 65 sdl.
 66  
 67    Because George was such a high-ranking CIA official, the indictment raises
 68 new questions about the extent and nature of CIA knowledge of the worst scandal
 69 of Ronald Reagan's presidency.
 70  
 71    Another former top CIA official, Alan Fiers, pleaded guilty in July and bega
 72 cooperating with prosecutors. Fiers had testified before the grand jury that
 73 returned the indictment.
 74    Eight of the 10 charges against George stem from testimony he gave to three
 75 congressional committees in October and December 1986.
 76    The final two counts of the indictment, handed up to a federal magistrate at
 77 3:50 p.m. EDT, accuse him of obstruction and making false statements to a
 78 federal grand jury in April 1991.
 79    If convicted on all the charges, George faces a maximum sentence of 50 years
 80 in prison and fines of $2.5 million.
 81    George said in a statement, "This crisis, this indictment merely makes me a
 82 pawn in the continuing drama of political exploitation."
 83    For almost five years, special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh and his team of
 84 lawyers and investigators have conducted a criminal investigation of the
 85 scandal.
 86    The investigation hit paydirt early this summer with the guilty plea by
 87 Fiers, former chief of the CIA's Central American Task Force. Fiers pleaded
 88 guilty to two counts in the scandal and began cooperating with prosecutors.
 89  
 90    Fiers implicated George in the scandal. George, 61, was deputy director for
 91 CIA operations during the Iran-Contra affair -- in charge of the CIA's overseas
 92 spy operations and networks.
 93  
 94    Walsh has stated publicly that he has been investigating "a coverup in the
 95 CIA," leading to reports of increasing nervousness among senior officials of th
 96 aywith headquarters in suburban Langley, Va.
 97  
 98    George had a 32-year CIA career, but retired in November 1987 -- almost a
 99 year after the Iran-Contra scandal exploded into public view. He became a
100 security consultant.
101  
102    George told key members of Congress in 1986 that he knew little about Oliver
103 North's secret Contra supply operation. He also claimed he did not know about
104 the diversion of money from secret arms sales to Iran until it was publicly
105 disclosed in November 1986.
106  
107    Proceeds from the arms sales were wired to the Nicaraguan Contra rebels,
108 although Congress had outlawed such assistance.
109  
110    George told congressional investigators, "Whatever my strengths and
111 weaknesses, I was almost meglomaniacal in trying to prove one thing: that we
112 were not involved in that activity because it would have been illegal."
113  
114    But as part of his plea agreement with prosecutors, Fiers said he told Georg
115 a he diversion of arms profits several months before it became public.
116 Fiers said George ordered him to mislead Congress about the CIA's knowledge of
117 North's Contra operations.
118    A prosecution document filed when Fiers pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor
119 counts of withholding information from Congress suggested that George already
120 knew about the diversion when Fiers mentioned it to him.
121    According to that document, George responded to the information by saying:
122 "Now you are one of a handful of people who know about this."
123  
124    The accusations against top CIA officials also renew a series of questions
125 about President Bush's nomination of Robert Gates to head the CIA.
126  
127    Gates was deputy director of intelligence when the scandal became public and
128 members of Congress want to question him about his claim that he knew little
129 about it.
130    Hearings into the Gates nomination are scheduled to begin in mid- September.
131  
132    Former intelligence agents have described George as tough, a consummate
133 spymaster. But others said he had contempt for Congress, and his combative
134 personality and overriding penchant for secrecy mirrored the nature of William
135 Casey, the CIA director who died shortly after the Iran-Contra scandal became
136 public.
137  
138    Walsh's investigation has recently focused on whether CIA officials joined a
139 conspiracy to mislead Congress about their knowledge of the scandal.
140  
141    The grand jury also is believed to examining the role of Duane Clarridge,
142 another senior CIA official who once headed the agency's European division.
143  
144    The indictment of George is the 11th legal action brought by Walsh and the
145 third involving an official of the CIA. Many of the cases involved guilty pleas
146  
147 ======================> A new system based on democracy in "The Evil Empire",
148 our enemy for so many years, so many dollars.  Meanwhile, here in the the 
149 good ole US of A, the same old cold warriors rule, their despotic regimes
150 ignoring the rule of Constitution and law.  Perhaps a coup of some kind is
151 in order here.  Some are predicting an assassination attempt when Bush visits
152 Portland to campaign for Bob Packwood.  Perhaps they will be successful and
153 we'll see what Danny boy does.  Perhaps it will be the spark for the New
154 Revolution and lead back to a democratic form of government in this country
155 again.<==================================
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157                                                                                
005=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/06/91 22:13  Msg:6415 Call:37073 Lines:33
158 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
159 ("The Evil Empire")--
160                          "Et tu, Brute?"
161 ...................................................Doctor Duran Duran
162 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
163 end mess.
164 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
165  
166 It facinates the imagination...
167      Look at your hands, then overlap them with your fingers locked.
168     Bring your thumbs to your lips and exhale.
169      Think of your youngest memory.
170     Think of what your oldest thought will be.
171      Open your hands, palms up.
172     Look at them carefully, and imagine yourself without them.
173      then, your arms...
174     then, your legs...
175      then, your eyes...
176     then, your lips...
177      then, your ears...
178     What's left?
179      What happens when we die?
180     People have been on this planet for thousands of years--
181      and we will only live for one hundred of them, MAX!
182     Your body will not last forever...
183      Just as we are born, we die--
184     every one of us     Is there a spiritual world--
185     or nothing???
186      I think about this every once in a while..........
187  
188     AND IT SHOCKS THE HELL OUT OF ME!!!...................Doctor Duran Duran
189 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
190 end mess.
006=Usr:530 Jessie a.         09/07/91 07:28  Msg:6416 Call:37082 Lines:7
191@ 
192 !*!*!*!*!*
193 Duran? What would you say if someone told you they remember both a world
194 between lives and past times on earth. Would it be more upsetting to you
195 than there being nothing after death?
196 Jessie
197 *!*!*!*!*!
007=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/07/91 19:11  Msg:6417 Call:37093 Lines:11
198 &*&*&*&*'s
199 Jessie, I've heard of that stuff, and even read a bit about it.  The thing that
200 struck me was, there just havn't been enough people on this planet for
201 everyone alive today to have lived more then about 1.8 or so times.
202  
203 Now, if you want to throw in other planets, or say that only some people
204 do the recycling thing...
205  
206 An Astral Dreamer
207 &*&*&*&*'s  (No poem today, the muse has gone away)
208  
008=Usr:618 ERIC D. VASBINDE  09/08/91 00:09  Msg:6419 Call:37098 Lines:8
209 ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
210  
211                   IF odd miscellanious is what you want please check out
212 my message in the shopping mall for great misc.!!!!
213                                     Thanx,
214                                         ERIC D. VASBINDER
215  
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009=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/08/91 01:39  Msg:6422 Call:37100 Lines:21
217 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
218  
219 Life has so many dimensions to it I get lost inside.
220  I hope that others feel the same...
221 Alone...no one is alone in this world, or any other;
222      Our feelings get so wrapped up with our own worlds
223     sometimes we feel ignored or left out,
224      especially when we do things for others without recognition.
225     My rewards are painful impressions of silent reactions from those
226      whom I love with a deep respect.
227     More frustrating, yet, is that there exists no cure.
228      This is when I feel alone...and frustrated...
229 BUT, I believe that no one is alone.
230      Spiritually or physically, it seems like there is always 
231     someone there to help you out...I don't know why...
232      your guess is as good as mine!
233 All I know is that it's great to be alive..."right here, right now."
234  
235 ............................................Doctor Duran Duran
236 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
237 end mess.
010=Usr:530 Jessie a.         09/08/91 07:33  Msg:6427 Call:37107 Lines:15
238 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!
239 Astral Dreamer...depends on what civilizations you count as having existed.
240 Depends on what history of the earth one is willing to consider. Depends on 
241 one's belief (as you mentioned) in other life on other places. Sometimes it 
242 seems to me that a belief that we are the only life form in all of a god's
243 creation is more absurd than the recognition that maybe life is not nearly
244 centric as we make it to be. I never limit what a god can do. And just
245 maybe it is possible that he doesn't like to lose something he puts a lot of
246 time and effort into and he'd rather it grow in understanding instead.
247 Each man chooses what he finds beauty in and some find the beauty in walking
248 back into a life and recognizing people we have walked with before as old
249 friends to love once again. A way of growing love so to speak because each
250 life we love them more.
251 Jessie
252 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!
011=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/08/91 09:36  Msg:6428 Call:37110 Lines:20
253 &*&*&*&*'s
254 Jessie, Got it.  (Don't neccesarily believe in it myself, but I'm willing
255 to work in your context to see where your coming from.)
256  
257 A question or two.  I have noticed both in myself and others a 
258 predisposition towards certain personality types.  Science seems to imply
259 that these are in fact genetic, and that atleast some portion of 
260 personality is inherited.  Would you please comment on this?
261  
262@Next,  I have read some on this subject, and
263 Next, how does one get in touch with these past lives.  I've read some
264 on the subject, but have yet to have any luck in this myself.  I
265 seem to be a fairly unique person, and see little reason for it. 
266 Thus,  if past lives exist, then the answer may be there.  (Not
267 to mention the solution to some problems.)
268  
269 An Astral Dreamer
270 &*&*&*&*'s (Mostly open minded.  Afraid of GIGO(Garbage In, Garbage Out))
271  
272 P.S.  Everyone thinks they are differant.  I've had people tell me I am.
012=Usr:530 Jessie a.         09/08/91 16:25  Msg:6429 Call:37115 Lines:31
273 *!*!*!*!*!*!
274 Astral dreamer, I can't help you on genetics and whether we are predisposed
275 to one discipline or another. I have seen no research on this. So I'll use
276 my own life....my sonher graduated from Cal Tech. His brother went to
277 MIT in computers. His other brother ended up in a computer career. All 
278 three sons were scientifically oriented. Now...my own son....he is good at
279 math, science, music, art and writing. The science disposition is still 
280 there but it is not where he wishes to pursue a career. I was good in 
281 scien, math, art and a fair hand at writing. My son wants to be a teacher
282 he thinks, using none of his skills in a career specific manner. Could
283 genetics play a part? Yes. On the other hand I know this kid from other 
284 lives....what I see in him is what I have known him for in those lives. The
285 ribald sense of humor, the sense of true caring for mankind, the guts to
286 stick to a task even though it is hard, the harshness upon himself for his
287 failings. Maybe we are a bit of both. He chose his parents before this
288 birth, I remember agreements with the people I was born with that are old
289 friends this time to come here together. Perhaps he chose people of like 
290 interests to his own, I do not know. Perhaps genetically it was available
291 to him because his father and I chose who we were to be born to?
292   
293 Some questions I cannot answer. I know only of my own memories and those
294 of my child and my friends. We remember things other people do not and
295 have talked of them with each other. Confirming specific times and places
296 and details that we have shared.
297   
298 Ultimately each man chooses what concepts they pursue in life. And my path
299 has been to pursue one that general society does not accept in this country.
300 In another country there would be no question that this concept was a viable
301 one. All I know is that my life is far more whole and complete having that
302 knowledge than if I had been without it.
303 Jessie
013=Usr:131 THE VISION        09/08/91 17:24  Msg:6431 Call:37118 Lines:6
304 _________________________________________________The Vision Lurker__________
305 AD and Jessie: enjoying your conversation about spiritualism/past lives.
306 Pretty interesting stuff although I tend not to believe it (although am
307 open and intrigued by the discussion and topic)
308 ____________________________________________________________________________
309  
014=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/08/91 19:45  Msg:6433 Call:37123 Lines:27
310 &*&*&*&*'s
311 Jessie, those are more or less the answers I was expecting.  I guess it
312 makes sense that we all have our own paths to tread.
313  
314 I don't remember having lived any past lives myself, though I do sometimes
315 find myself having an affinity for certain people.  I have also noticed
316 that there is a tendancy for my life to follow some sort of a logical
317 progression.  Sometimes its wierd how it works.  
318  
319 As my alias indicates, dreams are a major area of fascination for me.
320 I almost believe that some sort of communication outside of my own 
321 head goes on.  I can remember a number of dreams where I heard or
322 experianced things that were outside my own domain.  I also have
323 had several very short dreams of the future.  Never anything 
324 important, just 2 or 3 second snippets that later give me a 
325 sense of deja-vu.  Generally these happen 6 months to a year
326 before they become true.  The implications of this tend to
327 worry me, as I do not believe in predestination.  (Just 
328 predisposition.)  I believe it is possible that I have 
329 many others that do not come true, and thus I do not 
330 remember them.
331  
332 What do the rest of you believe dreams to be?
333  
334 An Astral Dreamer
335 &*&*&*&*'s (This space left blank, more or less)
336  
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338  
339 Dreaming is the complete escape from reality...
340      I look forward to sleeping after a good day--
341     Half of the time, dreams are lost and forgotten,
342      but for the most part, they are still alive.
343     Dreams are the greatest product of the imagination--
344      creativity is my best friend.
345 Ponder on this...
346      If it feels so natural to dream, and leave this world
347     for several hours at a time (deep sleep), won't death
348      be the same?  It appears that everyone here has survived
349     birth--that wasn't so bad, now that I recall...
350  
351 .................................................Doctor Duran Duran
352 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
353 end mess.
016=Usr:530 Jessie a.         09/09/91 07:14  Msg:6436 Call:37131 Lines:18
354 *!*!*!*!*!*!
355 Astral Dreamer, do you know there are many types of dreams that humans
356 have? Besides dreams that work out problems in our lives or turn over things
357 we need to deal with in life...there are things called lucid dreams. One
358 becomes aware in the dream one  is dreaming. You are awake inside a dream
359 and can manipulate it. Deja Vu dreams are common and people will find them-
360 selves walking through a situation they dreamed about. We also have dreams
361 of places we have been before, we can meet people we know that we are to
362 find in a dream...the list is long.
363   
364 My experience is that if I find an attraction to a person in life 
365 immediately, here usually is a reason that turns up later.ften I know
366 them from the past. What the peramiters of mankind are is fascinating.
367 And the more we explore how varied those peramiters are, the more our lives
368 have a richness to them. I can see why you would be interested in this
369 aspect of your life.
370 Jessie
371 *!*!*!*!*!*!
017=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/09/91 18:45  Msg:6437 Call:37143 Lines:15
372 &*&*&*&*'s
373 Jessie, I have on occasion had lucid dreams.  I've found that my control
374 only extends to myself.  Other aspects of the dream continue to 
375 act independently of my will.  This used to annoy me a great deal,
376 but I have for the most part come to terms with it.  
377  
378 I sort of suspect that the world we life in is just a shadow world,  
379 A stage upon which we play our parts.  In dreams I suspect we
380 grasp some small part of the place were the plays are written.
381  
382 Or perhaps not.  Time or death will tell.  
383  
384 An Astral Dreamer
385 &*&*&*&*'s
386  
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388      The coming of the new age drew the Historian out of his slumber.
389 Woken by the stirings and stresses of the hatchling era against the 
390 strands of time.  Happenings too important to leave to minions are a foot.
391 Nations merging and separating; too many details.  So much could be left 
392 out.  But, yet the time seemed too early.  Could it be that the hatchling 
393 is premature?  Birth before the great year's ending would not be a good thing.
394 The scales are still at an imbalance.  Even a half a century too soon would 
395 send irrevocable ripples throughout the cosmos.  
396      The Historian looked out through the darkness and to a point of blue
397 green light.  Interferance is inevitable.  But where?  But when?
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019=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/09/91 21:16  Msg:6439 Call:37145 Lines:9
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400  
401 The most enjoyable things in life are the simplest,
402      yet, it seems that most go in-depth for enjoyment...
403     why???
404  
405 .................................................Doctor Duran Duran
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407 end mess.
020=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/09/91 23:12  Msg:6440 Call:37148 Lines:19
408 &*&*&*&*'s
409  
410 We may enjoy the simple things
411 Or so we like to think
412  
413 In fact we like the smallest bits
414 of that which is not simple at all
415  
416 A bit of this, a bit of that, a bit of something else.
417 Each simple in its own right
418@ 
419@ 
420  
421 But what is the complex?
422 Its just simple little bits.
423  
424 An Astral Dreamer
425 &*&*&*&*'s (You can't win them all.  Sometimes you don't even score.)
426  
021=Usr:530 Jessie a.         09/10/91 06:37  Msg:6441 Call:37152 Lines:8
427 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!
428 I have found in lucid dreams I can affect the environment surrounding me 
429 though I have never tried to affect other people in the dreams. As a way
430 to play in life and feel a sense of total freedom they are fascinating.
431   
432 I suspect each of us uses them for different purpos Astral Dreamer.
433 Jessie
434 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!
022=Usr:131 THE VISION        09/10/91 19:22  Msg:6443 Call:37176 Lines:21
435 ____________________________T H E  V I S I O N__________________________
436 Hello. I have many dreams about planes and plane crashes. I think this
437 is because I have a real phobia of flying. It was learned when I was
438 about 8 or 9 years old and was in a crash landing in Hawaii. Must've
439 really set in and developed because I haven't flown since and refuse to
440 fly completely...(I've even taken greyhound for 34 hours from school
441 and had the toilet overflow..and, being above the engine, it smelled 
442 like hot piss the whole way!! :) was terrible!...the train is beautiful
443 though. Even if I wasn't afraid of flying I'd probably still take the
444 train.
445 (oh BTW it wasn't me who made the toilet overflow...I only used the
446 restroom at stops..and they weren't much better :P Yuk!
447 I also dream about flying (like Superman) a lot...except it is really hard
448 to do it at first and I have to try really hard. Then it gets easier but
449 it only lasts for a little while and soon I'm down on the ground again
450 trying to fly but can't do it. It's frustrating and annoying! :)
451 I don't really have nightmares anymore...they are so fascinating. I kind
452 of miss having them. Every once in a while I'll have one but they're
453 never as bad as when I was a kid.
454 __________________________________________________________The Vision_______
455  
023=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/10/91 22:58  Msg:6447 Call:37184 Lines:32
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457  
458 A Real Experience...
459  
460 Out on my own, all alone
461      in the shadows of the moon and stars
462     I walked through the knee-high grass
463      growing in the sand.
464 The wind blew at my face, and the chill of Fall was very near;
465      as I followed an abandoned trail,
466     I could hear the thundering waves hitting the beach.
467 I reached a cliff (ten feet high)
468      that a overlooked a scenery so beautiful,
469     it sent a warm chill down from head to toe.
470 The moon lit the night to shine a peaceful light
471      on everything below.
472 The clouds slid across the evening sky
473      like a balloon on ice;
474     and beyond the clouds,
475      the heavens shown through with greatness.
476 Every star and planet was visible to the naked eye,
477      and they sparkled like diamonds on black velvet.
478 Together with the wind in my face,
479      and the sense of complete freedom from reality,
480     I absorbed the sound of the ocean's power
481      with the silent beauty of the heavens above.
482 I have never experienced anything like it before,
483      nature's most peaceful bliss in my eyes.
484  
485 ..............................................Doctor Duran Duran
486 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
487 end mess.
024=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/12/91 00:20  Msg:6450 Call:37187 Lines:3
488 Sorry all, the mail room seems to be suffering from galoping bugitus.
489 sometimes crashing the system. It is back on line for now. 
490 *********************** CM **********************************
025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/12/91 06:29  Msg:6452 Call:37190 Lines:9
491 &*&*&*&*'s
492 Is it save to leave mail CM?  I've trashed the system twice now, and
493 am feeling a bit guilty...
494  
495 TV: call my board if you want a reply to your email.
496  
497 An Astral Dreamer
498 &*&*&*&*'s (Bug attractor)
499  
026=Usr:219 Friar Mossback    09/12/91 07:23  Msg:6454 Call:37191 Lines:23
500 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
501 For Sale or Trade
502 I was stupid, and not thinking,s I have the following to sell
503 or trade.  2 70ns 4 meg by 9 simm module. These are completely
504 unused, and were purchased only a week ago.  I o them from
505 Nevada Computer, and the ill not let me return them as there is
506 nothing wrong with them.  I onywanted to add 8 mb to my
507 machine, and got only two simms.  Bzzzzz!  Yo an't do that, you
508 ne to add them in sets of four.  No problem, justsnd off
509 another $ 43 nd get two more sets, right?  Bzzzz!  You can'td
510 that either.  My mcine can't handle 4 mb simms, only up to
511 eight (actually either four o ight) simms.  And only 256k or
512 1m imms.  So you see where this is heading.  I woudlike to
513 trade two saic bag protected, never unpacked, 4mb simm modue
514 for 4 1mb simm modls of the 70ns clan.  Or I will sell them and
515 get the money for the simmodules I need.Please let me know
516 here, or call 464-xxxx during the da. I will pay postage both
517 ways.  (How much can it be, they don't weightat much)
518 Thanks, 
519 Dave
520 Upload fuzzy, but you get the idea.
521 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]  Friar   [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
522  
027=Usr:322 Stray Cat         09/12/91 10:35  Msg:6457 Call:37194 Lines:6
523  
524 LOOKS LIKE FOREST GROVE HAD A RATHER BAD DAY YESTERDAY.  Funny neither 
525 incident hit the dailies.  Particularly funny about the school incident ...
526 wish somebody would say what directly led up to them being suspended.  Was
527 it JUST the clothes or some trumped up "behavioral problem?"
528  
028=Usr:322 Stray Cat         09/12/91 10:41  Msg:6458 Call:37195 Lines:3
529  
530 .... uh, excuse.  That should be the DAILY **not** (as we all know) DAILIES.
531  
029=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/12/91 20:58  Msg:6459 Call:37206 Lines:5
532 &*&*&*&*'s
533 Just semi-lurking.
534  
535 An Astral Dreamer
536 &*&*&*&*'s (<[{}]>) (No hidden meaning)
030=Usr:131 THE VISION        09/12/91 21:51  Msg:6460 Call:37207 Lines:1
537 ________________________________________________________Visionlurker________
031=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/12/91 22:24  Msg:6461 Call:37208 Lines:44
538 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
539  
540 I'm silent in the corner without any feeling,
541      alone to sit in sorrowful peace.
542 My crimes - I am guilty...
543      many things I have done with careless thought.
544 How many people can be touched with one hatred excerpt
545      from the lips of a fool?
546 There's nothing to say in the aftermath,
547      for actions speak louder than words....
548           silence, then, is, but still, golden.
549 Now, it's my turn to experience the other side of the crime,
550      but ten-times fold.
551 ...............................................Doctor Duran Duran
552 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
553 end mess.
554  
555 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
556  
557 "DAILIES"--
558      Who cares?  Does the issue directly affect you?  Were you under the gun
559      for suspension in that incident?
560      Each for his own -- ya' know?
561      Would you sacrifice your day to protest what happened at Forest Grove HS?
562      You and I both know what Raiders' clothing stands for besides just a
563      little more attention (which seems totally harmless).  I mean, who cares
564      if somebody wants to wear what they want to wear - freedom of expression,
565      right?  But, what if you are wearing a widely-accepted norm?  What if 
566      public school officials were to wear police uniforms in school?  I bet
567      children and parents would really appreciate that kind of psychology
568      used on a daily basis.
569      So, getting back to my point - who cares?  Are you going to go to pieces
570      over the issue, or are you just trying to get a conversation going?
571      I really am not trying to shoot ya down, far from it, but when it comes
572      to the MEDIA covering news, I just think things are totally blown out of
573      proportion...from both sides of good and evil...from that "cannibal" in 
574      Wisconsin to that damn weather cat named BOB!!!  The news is just trying
575      to get their ratings to be #1 in business, just as if you and I were going
576      for the same job (especially after telling you how I feel)     
577      I think you know what I mean......
578  
579 ................................................Doctor Duran Duran
580 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
581 end mess.
032=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/13/91 22:02  Msg:6467 Call:37231 Lines:4
582 Yes, MAIL is fine for now. It just has a problem if it gets too full, so I
583 went through and cleaned out mail that was over a year old. 
584 gee, doesn that remind you of gthe old Blue Parrot problems? .....
585 ************************ CM ****************************************
033=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/15/91 21:10  Msg:6474 Call:37258 Lines:21
586 &*&*&*&*'s
587  
588 Well, I'm feeling optomistic today.  Not.
589  
590 I hate being down.  It makes me grouchy and sarcastic.  It makes me
591 hate the thought of tommorow.
592  
593 Of course I always get over it.  
594  
595 But I'm getting really tired of hitting these lows.  I've got all sorts
596 of theories as to what causes them.  Some wild, and some mundane.
597  
598 Whats wierd, is I really do know whats wrong with me, even if I don't
599 know why.  But I can't seem to do anything much about it.  I think 
600 thats the worst part.  
601  
602 I'll get over it.  I always do.  I'm very frigging good at it.
603  
604 An Astral Dreamer
605 &*&*&*&*'s (Traped in a cage of his own making?)
606  
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607 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
608  
609 Everytime I concentrate on the things that I really hate,
610      I grow old inside and try to hide my most important feelings.
611 A wall is built around me that can only grow with more lies.
612 Breaking it down and leaving it all behind becomes more of a
613      dream than reality...it's really too bad.
614  
615 So I escape from reality, and then I'm gone...
616      no one can touch me, and I cannot hurt anyone's feelings.
617     My imagination takes me to the four corners of the world,
618      then to the edge of the galaxy where I can look at things from the
619     outside-in.
620  
621 Once I'm there, I can look at my life from scratch 'til now -- a very
622      beautiful site to see and learn from.
623  
624 Then my alarm sounds!!!!  'Time to get ready for work...
625  
626 ..............................................Doctor Duran Duran
627 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
628 end mess.
035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/16/91 17:26  Msg:6479 Call:37278 Lines:6
629 &*&*&*&*'s
630 Well, I'm feeling a good deal better today.  Knew I would.  
631  
632 An Astral Dreamer
633 &*&*&*&*'s (Conversation killer?)
634  
036=Usr:131 THE VISION        09/16/91 19:49  Msg:6481 Call:37282 Lines:7
635 _______________________________T H E  V I S I O N___________________________
636 AD - Good to see you're feeling better! I get in those moods sometimes as
637 well. It's pretty empty/slow around here lately huh? Oh well...anyways, see
638 ya later.  - To Doctor Duran Duran - I have really enjoyed your posts; keep
639 them coming! You've got some really good written expression....
640 _______________________________________________________________The Vision____
641  
037=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      09/17/91 02:42  Msg:6484 Call:37289 Lines:65
642 696969696969                                                                   
643  
644 BCCI/Oct Surprise: Castalero Killing Source: Peacenet
645  
646 On a Saturday in August '91, reporter Joseph Danial Caselero was found dead in 
647 a hotel room in the Sheraton in Martinsburg, West Virginia.  His death was 
648 ruled a suicide and his body was embalmed the next day.  His family was angry 
649 that the embalming was ordered before they were notified. 
650  
651 Casalero's investigations may have been about to tie together the October 
652 Surprise, BCCI, Reagan adminstration officials, and INSLAW software piracy 
653 case.  The latter is an eight-year court case in which the computer firm, 
654 INSLAW, has accused the Justice Department of stealing its software.  
655  
656 Casalero had a theory about a network, allegedly led by an associate of former 
657 Attorney General Edwin Meese, that he called the "octopus".  The theory 
658 alleges that the "octopus" funneled money through BCCI to the Iranian 
659 government to keep the 52 American hostages from being released before the 
660 1980 presidential election.  The Republican campaign team believed that 
661 release could have been a decisive October surprise, giving Jimmy Carter the 
662 victory.  The theory alleges that as a reward, the "octopus" was allowed to 
663 sell INSLAW's software program to foreign governments, including Israel and 
664 Iraq. 
665  
666 Other reporters have explored the "octopus" theory, but Casalero alone claimed 
667 to be close to proving its existence and its connections to the Reagan and 
668 Bush adminstrations. 
669  
670 The media buried the story under leads touting Caslero's financial situation 
671 as a likely motive for suicide.  The coroners said that his death "was not 
672 inconsistent with suicide".  The FBI investigation amounted to a two hour 
673 interview with the local police, after which they announced that there was no 
674 reason to investigate further. 
675  
676 "Here you have a case of a man who told friends and confidants he was on the 
677 brink of proving the involvment of the Justice Department in possible criminal 
678 activity and nothing further is done," former Attorney General Elliot 
679 Richardson said.  "I do not see how someone in a responsible position can let 
680 a thing like this stand," Richardson said refering to the FBI decision to not 
681 investigate further. 
682  
683 What was mentioned in only two newspaper reports of twelve this reporter could 
684 find, was that Casalero had been receiving phone calls threatening his life, 
685 warning him to back off of his investigation.  And only one source quoted his 
686 mother saying that just days before his death he told her, "If there is an 
687 accident resulting in my death, don't believe it." 
688  
689 In a related devolpment British journalist, Anson Ng Yong, was found shot to 
690 death in Guatemala, where he'd been investigating Guatemalean army generals 
691 involvment to BCCI. 
692                                                                              
693 Somethings to think about as you listen to the reports on the confirmation
694 hearings for Bush's choice to head the CIA, a man who should have been aware
695 of the entire sordid affair.  Either he is dishonest, or incompetent.  Not
696 good choices for the man heading the Central Intellegence Agency.  The folks
697 who were too busy running drugs, and selling arms to notice the falling of the
698 Communist government that had been their primary focus since  World War II.
699 Incompetence or dishonesty.  George Bush's man, alright.  And Ollie North is
700 a hero for getting off on a Constitutional technicality.  That's right, the
701 same Constitution towards which he showed so little respect, and tried so
702 desparately to subvert, saved his ass.  Irany...I mean irony, at it's finest.
703                                                                                
704 696969696969696969                                                            
705 Manuel Noriega and Saddam Hussein are the enemy?                              
706                                                                               
038=Usr:31 The Doctor        09/17/91 12:37  Msg:6486 Call:37295 Lines:1
707 ????????????????????? DocLurk
039=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/17/91 21:03  Msg:6487 Call:37304 Lines:14
708 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
709  
710 I am tired now, my day is done;
711      there was work, rest, and time for fun.
712 But my eyes are closing soon too fast,
713      for yesterday is gone, it's now the past...
714 History was made, and what have I done?
715      I worked, rested, and had some fun.
716 Tomorrow will come and go the same,
717      as I continue to do it again and again.
718  
719 .................................................Doctor Duran Duran
720 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
721 end mess.
040=Usr:610 Peace             09/18/91 16:47  Msg:6489 Call:37320 Lines:4
722 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
723 DocLurk:  No, sweetheart, it is our own government (You remember? 
724 "by the people, for the people," etc?) which is the enemy.
725 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Peace Lady $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
041=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/18/91 19:56  Msg:6492 Call:37321 Lines:11
726 &*&*&*&*'s
727 Been sort of slow recently.  
728  
729 I've written a couple more songs, but I think I'll hold them in reserve
730 for now.  On the plus side, I'm actually starting to like my voice.
731 My guitar playing however is still real rough.  What I need to do
732 is get rich, so I can afford to hire other people to play the 
733 instruments for me. :-)
734  
735 An Astral Dreamer
736 &*&*&*&*'s (Pithy words and phrases ofteen create dazzes.)
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737 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
738  
739 Give me a penny and I'll make it last,
740      give me a dollar and it'll go fast.
741 "So, buy me a stereo, a car, a house --
742      I'll treat them with care," said the cat to the mouse.
743 You reap what you sow,
744      and that's no lie.
745 Everyone who lives will eventually die.
746  
747 Riddle me, confuse me, take me for a fool,
748      everyone knows simplicity is cool.
749 Spare me the details, I am totally perplexed,
750      because everything you say is completely complex!
751 All I know is that I try and try
752      to earn respect in another's eye.
753 Good hard work has taught me well,
754      to stay away from an earthly hell.
755  
756 ............................................Doctor Duran Duran
757 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
758 end mess.
043=Usr:31 The Doctor        09/19/91 16:02  Msg:6501 Call:37341 Lines:1
759 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? DocLurk
044=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/19/91 23:18  Msg:6504 Call:37350 Lines:17
760 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
761  
762 No new messages, give me a break!
763      And, my stomach is killing me from that peppered steak...
764     I just ate...
765      yesterday.
766  
767 Words to the wise,
768      hey, listen guys--
769 I got somethin' to say,
770      today, today...
771 How did it go?  I guess I forgot,
772      what I just learned, that was recently taught.
773  
774 ....................................................Doctor Duran Duran
775 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
776 end mess.
045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/20/91 06:47  Msg:6506 Call:37356 Lines:21
777 &*&*&*&*'s
778 (Imprompto versre follows)
779  
780 Destiny, a two edged sword
781 Shining bright in night.
782 Has the hidden point of view
783 Knows the secret word
784  
785 Palace on an open hill
786 Open gate for fate
787 Find the missing piece or part
788 Look and get your fill
789  
790 Cable me your point of view
791 Token sigh from high
792 Take me into your silence
793 Place me with the few
794  
795 An Astral Dreamer
796 &*&*&*&*'s (TGIF)
797  
046=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/20/91 21:36  Msg:6508 Call:37370 Lines:7
798 &*&*&*&*'s
799 15 hours, 13 callers and no posts.  Come now, you people must have something
800 to say?  
801  
802 An Astral Dreamer
803 &*&*&*&*'s ()
804  
047=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/20/91 22:19  Msg:6509 Call:37371 Lines:26
805 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
806  
807 A recent observation today...
808      about life in general and the games people play.
809 I was watching a show (CLUB MTV),
810      which had dancing, and music, and plenty to see.
811 The leaders of tomorrow were flying around,
812      with the bare essentials, and sex abound.
813 As I examined them carefully, I curiously thought,
814      about the present and future going to pot!
815 Sometimes I think that I am out of place,
816      in this "liberal" society and its revealing tastes.
817 But not with this, which I am deeply concerned,
818      about children that were taught, but never learned.
819 There are so many traditions, and cultures lost,
820      with common courtesies that seem to be tossed.
821 "Give them an inch, and they'll take it a mile,"
822      as they sit in their chairs with an innocent smile.
823 Parents need to spend more time with their kids,
824      not the TV with so many zr"vids"...
825 I love life more than anyone can guess,
826      maybe that's why I feel it's a mess...
827  
828 ..................................................Doctor Duran Duran
829 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
830 end mess.
048=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par  09/21/91 01:41  Msg:6511 Call:37373 Lines:5
831 *%@#*%)_@#*%)__$@(%+$)!@+*%@#)+$(!@$@+)^%@#)(%+$(!@+#$(#*%&+($!+@(!@+$!+$!+@$(
832 MIKE, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE ARCHIVE DISKS? WHAT ARE WE UP TO NOW? I NEED
833 TO GET CAUGHT UP ASAP... THNX.
834 %*_)*%@%@%*@*%_)!$_&^)_*%@# L'HOMME SANS PARITY *($@)%_)($)_!@*%_)()_@()_$($!@$
835 STRANGE KEYBOARD? ALL CAPS???
049=Usr:322 Stray Cat         09/21/91 07:51  Msg:6512 Call:37378 Lines:5
836  
837 What I really wanna know is, does Packwood PAY for any of that police
838 protection it took to raise half a mil for his campaign?  And all the
839 hours of planning, etc.?  Or do WE get to pay for that too???  
840  
050=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/21/91 10:11  Msg:6513 Call:37379 Lines:27
841 &*&*&*&*'s
842 What I'd like to know, is why some people think the Oregonian is 
843 liberal.  Check out the headlines in fridays paper.  We had the 
844 "Loyal 800" who showed up to see Bush and Packwood, and then 
845 we had the "400" people who showed up to demonstate and riot. 
846 (Atleast thats what the oregonian said.)  Of course, I talked to
847 somebody who was there, and he claimed more then 800 people were 
848 there to demonstrate.  So, what we have is an under reporting
849 of the number of people there, a very slanted article on what
850 went on (Emphasizing the rioting, which was a small group of 
851 people, and had nothing to do with the main part of the demonstrations.)
852 Plus a glowing description of the Bush supporters and the terrible 
853 ordeal they went thru to get in.  (Havn't they ever heard about that
854 old adage,  ...names may never hurt me?)
855  
856 In the same paper they talk about the Govenors visit to Pendlton, (I
857 believe thats right)  Anyway, Shes trying to get a consensus on what
858 needs to be done to overhaul the tax system here in oregon.  So what does
859 the oregonian report?  A rather tepid description of her purpose, followed 
860 by nothing but quotes from people who are up for lettin the state go
861 under financially, with nothing from the other side. 
862  
863 (Gotta go.)
864  
865 An Astral Dreamer
866 &*&*&*&*'s (Late, Late, Late.)
867  
051=Usr:165 Bart Simpson      09/21/91 13:23  Msg:6514 Call:37381 Lines:21
868 696969696969                                                                  
869               You got it right.  Packwood, and the wealthy Republicans pay zero
870 for the opportunity to raise more than $500,000 (That's a half a million big
871 ones), while the taxpayers foot the bill for police overtime (the same police
872 that don't have time anymore to respond to theft reports and other miscellaneou
873 crimes).  Not to mention tying up the Banfield AND MAX during Thursday morning
874 rush hour.  Who are these people anyway who get away with such arrogance?
875 Can YOU afford $600 for a meal?  Can YOU afford $600 for anything but a
876 neccessity?  Can YOU afford to re-elect Bob Packwood?  A man who has embraced
877 everything that the Reagan/Bush Empire stands for?  (And he gives Bush a
878 tree seedling...want to bet it never got planted anywhere and rotted in the
879 pot?)  Who owns who?  Does Packwood represent Oregon interests?  Or the out
880 of state money lords who want to cut down all the trees and export them 
881 instead of keeping jobs processing them into lumber in the U.S.?  And what
882 about all the money Packwood receives from the other out of state interests
883 that are so concerned with whether or not he gets re-elected?  Do you think
884 YOUR concerns are theirs?   Over 1/2 million dollars in less than two hours.
885 Not bad work if you can get it.                                             
886                                                                              
887 696969696969696969                                                             
888                                                                               
052=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/21/91 15:20  Msg:6515 Call:37383 Lines:2
889 L'homme: We are up to archive #105. Things have been rather slow...
890 ************************ CM ***************************************
053=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/21/91 22:07  Msg:6516 Call:37390 Lines:17
891 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
892 Well, speaking about politics gets me cornfused, but, here I go...
893  
894 Having a major bureaucracy (the US govt) costs the people of the US major
895 bucks.  Not to mention all of the minor bureaucracies in between the
896 White House and your local city government.  I do believe we are being taxed
897 unfairly to this vary day and I have evidence (first-hand info. from prior
898 experience with working for the government) prove it.  Medical, education, and
899 a secure standard of living are the three main priorities I would like to see
900 our government tackle.
901 Recently, I spoke with a middle-aged woman who was born and raised in Holland,
902 which is currently a socialistic country.  According to our conversation, the
903 standard of living there is extremely secure.  Education, medical and 
904 government services are all paid for.  I was amazed!!!  I asked her how this 
905 was possible -- she said that there was approximately a 30% deduction out of
906 paycheck and that was it -- no taxes to pay at the end of the year.
907 So, I asked myself why we have an average of 25% taken out of our paycheck at
054=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  09/21/91 22:25  Msg:6517 Call:37391 Lines:43
908 and we still have to pay federal and state income taxes at the end of the year.
909 Not to mention the fact that we end up paying bucks through the ass for all
910 different kinds of insurance (I don't want to EVEN get started on insurance!).
911 Then we have house payments, etc.  To tell you the truth, our government IS
912 getting the best out of us.  'Not to much to say about that, really.
913  
914 So, my question is: why aren't we heading towards socialism at a faster
915 momentum???  Because, the people who are in power now (who have all the money)
916 DO NOT want to lose any more power than they have to.  This "NEW WORLD ORDER"
917 thing is bad news -- if you like to read the bible occasionally, pick it up
918 and read about what the Lord thinks about it.  I'll tell you anyway...
919 the "NEW WORLD ORDER" has to do with the consolidation of power and control
920 into one ruler and king over all the continents of the world.  Satan's dream
921 is to rule the entire world.  Supposedly, there will come an ANTI-CHRIST 
922 (who will say he is Jesus coming back for the last time) who will lead a
923 majority to believe in him that he is Jesus (when he's really not) and he will
924 become a very powerful political leader -- eventually becoming THE LEADER of
925 this "NEW WORLD ORDER".  For a short time, there will be a world peace --
926 where no wars will be fought, then, soonafter, all hell will break loose!!!
927  
928 So, I'm not to crazy about this "NEW WORLD ORDER" thing, it really scares me.
929 Another part of trivia -- people say Satan's number is 666.  Well, a lot of
930 people believe that number means that Satan will have complete control over the
931 world through the use of numbers -- i.e., what's your social security number;
932 or, your driver's license number; or, your credit card numbers; or, your bank
933 account numbers -- the principal behind it is that everyone will be known as
934 a number instead of a name (Satan's # happens to be 666).
935  
936 It really doesn't sound too stupid when you think about it all -- it just gets
937 really scary.
938  
939 As far as politics are concerned, I think we can eliminate a few hundred 
940 bureaucracies (AT LEAST), and start focussing our attention on more valuable
941 resources on the "home-front", like our children for instance.
942  
943 We still do live in one of the richest countries in the world, though, and
944 I am very thankful for that!!!  Simple things, like indoor plumbing and nice
945 roads to drive on are very scarce in most parts of the world.  Not to mention
946 our freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
947  
948 ...............................................Doctor Duran Duran
949 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
950 end mess
055=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/22/91 12:37  Msg:6524 Call:37402 Lines:49
951 &*&*&*&*'s
952  
953 Time to finish off the disk.  
954  
955 I'm currently of the opinion that humanity is programmed to self 
956 destruct.  Follow my logic if you will.
957  
958 We all have an ego.  Now, this in and of itself is not bad.  It makes
959 us what we are.  Individuals, beings with free will.  Thats the upside.
960  
961 The downside is the self deception we use to maintain our egos.  This
962 self deception is built in.  It is a survival mechanism.  Without it
963 we would be forced to commit personality suicide, and death (In any 
964 form) is amoung our greatest fears.
965  
966 So, if I am correct, then we are stuck in a system were we cannot succede
967 beyond a very inefiant level.  
968  
969 Has anyone ever wondered why it took us so long to get to this point? 
970 (Speaking in terms of understanding the universe and the technology
971 that leads to and comes from said understanding.)  Could it be because 
972 any idiot can get lucky eventually?
973  
974 Of course, I can of course postulate that we may if fact learn to 
975 overcome this built in liability.  But should we?  What are we now?
976 What would we become?  Do we have the courage?
977  
978 "We are stubborn built up places
979 Built close but apart.
980 Two walls that crumble and merge
981 time will wear apart
982 Casting shadows we are alone
983 moving closer?"
984  
985 Be aware of the filters on your ears and eyes.  They may blind 
986 and deafen you at times, but that is the least of their dangers.
987 It is worse when they manipulate and twist the things you hear
988 and see.
989  
990 Platos cave.  Read it.  Learn it.  Know it.
991  
992 (I'm through being preachy now.)
993  
994 (Six lines remain.)
995 (five including this one)
996 Thats all for now.
997  
998 An Astral Dreamer
999 &*&*&*&*'s (At the bottom, looking up.)
