

#: 10137 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-Apr-91  19:49:02
Sb: #10133-#OSK Clib.l Order
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Robert Heller 71450,3432 (X)

Please!  I'd like to see just about every ARchive/De-archive program running
and available so we can get all that source code from the other machines. So
Yes!  Please send ZOO too!

Thanks,

Mike

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#: 10147 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-Apr-91  05:27:55
Sb: #10137-#OSK Clib.l Order
Fm: Bob Taylor 73270,3124
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

For your information the source for the OSK port of zoo is located in DL12.
Try zoo.ar.

Bob Taylor

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#: 10148 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-Apr-91  07:54:58
Sb: #10147-OSK Clib.l Order
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Bob Taylor 73270,3124 (X)

Great!  Thanks Bob.  I don't know it was there.

(The Zoo source that is!)

Mike

#: 10222 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Apr-91  09:28:18
Sb: #9931-OSK Clib.l Order
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Robert Heller 71450,3432 (X)

Bob, I think at this point I should just retract my request. I am too busy to
play with lharc anyway.  But thanks much.

Carl

#: 10138 S2/Tutorials
    06-Apr-91  20:46:32
Sb: #10055-DISK DRIVES
Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156
To: FRANK PRUZENSKI 76264,237

Now I am lost too.  You say"went to format /d3 and got error msg "221." The
error translates as MODULE NOT FOUND.  If you were to do an MDIR I suspect that
you will not find a module by the name od D3.  This means that you do not have
a descriptor for a drive called /d3. (normall

- ooh - butcher job of editing. (normally /d3 is the fourth drive  ie /d0 /d1
/d2 /d3 and unless you want to become a hardware guru stsy away from trying to
have more than 3 double dided drives ) Remember - you can only format drives
for which the computer has a descriptor in your system right now you have
probably got /d0 /d1 and /dd yes?  /dd is usually an alter ego for /d0 but can
be the hard disk or anything else. what do the descriptors you have contain? 
they must correspond to the physical hardware - ie if /d0 is single sided then
the descriptor has to say so if /d1 is double sided likewise.  Please remember
- double sided OS9 disks are NOT like under RSDOS - there is ONLY ONE DISK.  ie
/d1 being double sided 40 tracks will have 1440 sectors (decimal) arranged
alternately fron one side to the other on the diskette.  The drive can read and
write and format single sided diskettes (to format you first use dmode)9 to
read or write just stuff it in. Does this make sense to you? re error and help
- in the /d0 SYS directory do you have the files ERRMSG and HELPMSG? do you
have the commands error and help in your commands directory?  What happens when
you type error 221 <enter>?

#: 10149 S2/Tutorials
    07-Apr-91  09:13:07
Sb: #10055-DISK DRIVES
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: FRANK PRUZENSKI 76264,237

Frank,

To add a couple of things to Bob's reply:

Error 207 means there's not enough free memory to run the format command. Do
you have a bunch of utilities loaded? How much RAM do you have in your CoCo?

Format will only format the drive specified on the command line.

Bill

#: 10139 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Apr-91  21:47:53
Sb: #10117-#Coco as terminal
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751 (X)

Robert, Just what is this termix program? 9600 buad out the bit banger port??
Sounds too good to be true. Is this a PD program?

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#: 10152 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Apr-91  18:10:40
Sb: #10139-Coco as terminal
Fm: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob, download the file termit.txt from library 10.  this will give you the
information that you were looking for.

#: 10140 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  00:03:49
Sb: #9652-#MIDI File code
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete, is fthis discussion about MIDI FIle FOrmat conversion code from TIm
THompson of Bell Labs in New Jersey? I think I got some C source from him at
work a year ago, but wasn't sure if that was AT&T properietary or what. If you
have some source that's good, since I have no way to move stuff between work
and home machines. --mike k

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#: 10153 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  18:14:19
Sb: #10140-MIDI File code
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)

Mike,

What kind of computer do you use at work -- Unix box of some sort?

Incidentally, I've been using the Bourne shell that Brett Wynkoop uploaded (the
bursted TOPS shell). Works great!

Paul

#: 10168 S4/MIDI and Music
    08-Apr-91  11:28:27
Sb: #10140-#MIDI File code
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)

Mike -

The source is from Tim, but implemented by Paul. I received permission (via
Internet) for Paul to use Tim's code.

Pete

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#: 10420 S4/MIDI and Music
    23-Apr-91  21:49:00
Sb: #10168-MIDI File code
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Good.  That opens things up a lot. --mike k

#: 10141 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  00:21:14
Sb: #10007-#New Keyboard Advice
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Mark Wuest 74030,332 (X)

Hi Mark.  I hope you go with UltiMuse under OS9. I did write a MIDI recording
program and got it working, sort of, but my old RUlaford MIDI Pak has a 6850
chip which Motorola says wona't do the 1.8 MHz Coco3 clock rate, and the chip
rebelled by dropping bytes now and then, just enuf to spoil the music.  SO
until I get a 68B50 chip to upgrade it, I can't do a MIDI recorder under L2. 
Once I do, I'll try to write a timing-diagram (piano roll format) grafix editor
and maybe a smart program to translate your playing into Ultimuse notation.
Pretty busy with MM/1 OSK port of Ultimuse and the income tax right now tho,
with a Rainbowfest coming up.  --mike k

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#: 10355 S4/MIDI and Music
    19-Apr-91  23:53:34
Sb: #10141-#New Keyboard Advice
Fm: DonVail 70233,2037
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)

You are writing a sequencer for ultimuse.  GOOD.  I was waiting for something
like that.  Will Ultimuse be the same under OSK or will it have added features.
I don't own  ultimuse at the moment. Financial reasons obviously.

DONVAIL

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#: 10421 S4/MIDI and Music
    23-Apr-91  21:52:03
Sb: #10355-New Keyboard Advice
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: DonVail 70233,2037

UME will start out the same under OSK, but a lot faster (you should see how
fast it draws a score now-all messed up, but FAST). New features will come very
fast after that, and some will also go into the Coco version as well, which
still has a few promises to pay off on per features in upgrades. Recording MIDI
on the MM/1 will not require any extra hardware, but on the COco it needs a
MIDI Pak with an yupgraded 68B50 chip. --mike k

#: 10142 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  00:27:40
Sb: #9882-#New Keyboard Advice
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Mark Wuest 74030,332 (X)

Mark, I hoped you found a touch-sensitive keyboard in your $500 range. Used to
be you couldn't touch one under $1000. Anyway I agree that for learning piano
you definitely want that feature.  I shudder to think I almost bought one
without it.

However, some very cheap units CAN respond to MIDI touch velocity values and
play with expression under Lyra or UME, even tho your fingers can't get the
expression on the little keys.

By the way, neither Lyra nor UME really need a hardware MIDI Pak interface, but
can run off a serial cable in the back (the printer port). Only to record hand
playing do you really need the Pak, tho complex pieces may play better with it.

--mike k

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#: 10167 S4/MIDI and Music
    08-Apr-91  10:18:27
Sb: #10142-#New Keyboard Advice
Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)

Mike,
 Yup, I bought a Kawai KC10 for $495.00 It's *very* small, and I'll eventually
write a user interface on the CoCo to program it (right now, you need the
manual in front of you to do anything). It has a 2 or 3 reasonable piano PCM
samples and a total of 128 samples and other sounds. I saw a Casio that looked
like a better deal, but the Kawai had a much less busy front panel and was 1/3
the depth.
 I would eventually like to record hand playing - you know, play something and
have the computer spit out sheet music. I have been reading some on the MIDI
spec, but am trying to get married *and* get our work project into Beta (at the
White Plains DCO - FOA is Atlanta).
 Mark

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#: 10273 S4/MIDI and Music
    15-Apr-91  02:25:38
Sb: #10167-New Keyboard Advice
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Mark Wuest 74030,332 (X)

Mark,

What a dream, to be able to play live into a MIDI box and have a computer spit
out sheet music! Unfortunately, computers resolve time better than we do, so
you've got to do some serious quantizing either before hand or after the fact
-- and after the fact is awful tedious! I think that doing what you want
"transparently" will be harder to crack than generic voice recognition.

Still, with some good software from folks like Knudsend, we can at least get as
close as the PC folks.

Best,

Paul IMS

#: 10419 S4/MIDI and Music
    23-Apr-91  21:47:57
Sb: #10167-#New Keyboard Advice
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Mark Wuest 74030,332 (X)

OK.  Does that Kawai KC10 have touch-responsive keys, or at least thru MIDI? At
least you can program it -- many tone-boxes now cannot be programmed AT ALL
without a MIDI computer.

I've written some test programs to record MIDI on OS9-L2, but I need a faster
68B50 chip in my MIDI Pak to make them work right, so on the back burner right
now.

Good luck -- staying married is more work than getting married, but more fun
and more rewarding.  And stay at the reception as long as you can -- why miss a
good party?  --mike k

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#: 10455 S4/MIDI and Music
    25-Apr-91  10:02:33
Sb: #10419-New Keyboard Advice
Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111

Yes, the Kawaii has both velocity-sensitivity and MIDI thru. It may as well
require an external computer to program, as you have to have the manual in
front of you while you're doing it. (eg: each "sound" is just a number between
1 and 128 - you look it up on a table in the manual.)
 We left a little early - we had better things to do <g>!
 Mark

#: 10143 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  00:33:16
Sb: #9879-New Keyboard Advice
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 (X)

Yes, nothing can really replace a REAL piano, but some of the tiny spinet
models, especially those made today, sound much worse than any decent
electronic piano, and their touch is terrible too.  Just as some electronic
organs are better than some pipe organs.

But as you hint, a big old upright, once overhauled by a professional
tuner/technician, will sound and feel better than anything (except a big Grand,
if you have room!).

And you can't loan your real piano to you sister, unless she brings lots of big
strong friends, grin.

#: 10144 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  00:40:17
Sb: #10104-#SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)

Hi Paul.  Would you want to try incorporating my Virtual Memory techniques into
your MFF players?  Or maybe the VRN "device" allegedly on Delphi?

WHen Dale Puckett published his one-page description of how my VMem stuff works
in Rainbow, I offered to give him a cleaned-up source of the relevant routines
to publish. I could probably fix you up with something like that, tho I don't
have a lot of time to help you out with them. They use Grafix put-get buffers,
but could be easily zapped to use Data Modules.  And they are NOT buggy, at
least not since the first version.

It wouldn't be that hard to get UME to "play" into an MFF file -just another
item in a long list of projecdts.  --mike k

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#: 10154 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  19:32:16
Sb: #10144-#SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)


Hi Mike,

I think I already got the VRN thingie.  I'd have to redo it since I'm always
using Rick Adams' VI editor (patched TS/Edit).  I don't usually mess around
with games so I've never installed it, yet it could be helpful in grabbing RAM.
But it would need to do the entire bank-switching inside one 60-Hz tick.

Right now my ideals are to provide a generic player for any OS9/6809 machine,
not just for the CoCo3/Level-2 crowd.  There's some who still have Level-1 and
possibly the older CoCo models, etc.  They won't be able to use such a player.
A program that reads input from a file will let anyone use whatever hardware
(cache or DMA) they have, including RAM-disk cards etc. -- you know:
flexibility.  So far, I can hear a very slight pause when there is a lot of
super-fast MIDI stuff going on, more likely a delay caused by our RS232
hardware hogging all the CPU cycles (hard-wired IRQ lines etc.).

And simply using 'malloc()' seemed to be good enough for those busy files. That
is, until I downloaded a ZIP'd file that was compressed 81% which produced a
MFF1 that was over 118k big!  We're going to have to rewrite this converter to
do SEEKs for files like that.  And then that version will be generic enough so
anyone can compile it & use it.

If you get my drift: Part of the problem with IBM[tm]/compatibles software,
whether it be on a PC, PS/2, mainframe, AIX, 8100, etc., is that they write
everything to be memory-resident.  The fastest file archivers use all the RAM
they can grab.  I'm not disagreeing with this practice, but it makes special
problems for porting and multitasking.  (For example, IBM promises that
OS/2[tm] version 2.0 [EE or not] will be a lot smaller code-wise because
they'll have finally found a way to use common routines, kinda like a run-time
library.  I bet someone saw how OSK uses similar common modules to do the math
and I/O!)

Finally, I'm hoping we can ditch all this CMF stuff once we can have Two-way
paths between SMFs and UME.

-- Thx, Paul Seniura.



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#: 10414 S4/MIDI and Music
    23-Apr-91  21:32:02
Sb: #10154-#SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)

OK -- some of your message scrolled off the screen, but at least CTRL-S works
tonite so I got most of it.  I do have it on disk captured here too.  Yeah,
always nice to hear about IBM's screwups (I'm not putting an [tm] after their
stuff, wonder why anyone would, grin).

Don't know what CMF is -- guess SMF means MFF, standard midi format? Yeah I
will get UME to play into MFF files.  ANd I do have a little MIDI recorder for
Coco OS9-L2, it works except my hardware 6850 wona't hack the fast clock rate,
so gotta find a 68B50 before I can do anything constructive.

Hope you're getting some use out of UME, despite its limitations. Say, did I
ask yourpermission to just play (not give out!) the ST:TNG theme at RainbowFest
this weekend?  Tanks, mike k

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#: 10427 S4/MIDI and Music
    24-Apr-91  11:04:07
Sb: #10414-SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)

Mike -

Yep... MFF (Midi File Format) and SMF (Standard Midi File) are taken to mean
pretty much the same thing.

For ease of exchange, most MFF's use a .MID file extension.

Pete

#: 10166 S4/MIDI and Music
    08-Apr-91  07:41:35
Sb: #10144-#SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)

Mike,

Over the years, I've developed my own "virtual memory" routines, both in C and
asm. I would be _very_ interested in looking at your routines. Are they written
in C?

Bill

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#: 10418 S4/MIDI and Music
    23-Apr-91  21:43:20
Sb: #10166-SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Yes, mine are all C, and only two pages long on paper. Probably wouldn't mind
letting them out. Have you heard about htis VRN virtual memory driver package
on Delphi that supposedly does what you and I are doing? I haven't looked for
it yet.

#: 10145 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  00:45:44
Sb: #10122-#SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Hi Paul (the Ward variety).  Kev Pease *finally* got his copy of my proposed
standard for MIDI data movement within the MM/1. It allows the driver, not the
application (like UME) to do the timing.  It uses timing bytes slipped in here
and there between the chords.  Kev P and I have talkede about it once since he
got it, as to what features and statcalls will get implemented (I threw in
everything I could think of) and which are not so useful or easy to do.

I really hope to have something runing for MM/1 at Fest, but right now the
other Kev's early-version mouse driver is giving me fits. --mike k

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#: 10146 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  01:28:07
Sb: #10145-#SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)

Have something runing?  That's pretty obscure...I'd settle for neumes, if
you're trying for old music notation. :-) :-) :-)

Seriously, I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you get running on the
MM/1.  For those of us with the second board so we have the sound, would it be
possible to have a driver play back samples?  (Dunno how useful that would be,
but it might be a neat hack.)

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#: 10413 S4/MIDI and Music
    23-Apr-91  21:26:02
Sb: #10146-SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

Hi.  I have the MM/1 versiuion about 60% working. Yes, we intend to use the DMA
stereo sound and go back to the good old days of computed sample output -- no
synth needed.

#: 10155 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  19:33:27
Sb: #10145-#SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X)


Pardon me ... I typed up and shared a copyrighted article on this very subject!
I need to get in on this so the CoCo3 can do the very same thing.  In
particular we're trying to invent a standard to use hardware timers via IRQs to
do the timing, causing the driver to route the I/O at the correct moment.

Also, I hope no one is plagurizing what we were discussing in that article. I'm
very interested in standards.  So has anyone set any?

-- Thx, Paul Seniura.



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#: 10416 S4/MIDI and Music
    23-Apr-91  21:37:11
Sb: #10155-SMF Fmt-1 to Fmt-0
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X)

Well, I didna't see your article so I can say I didn't ah, borrow, any ideas. 
Tho of course I assume you intended the ideas to be used, that the copyright
just covers your explanation of the proposed standard and not the use of it,
right?  Else what good is a private standard, grin.

I haven't posted mine anywhere, since Kev Pease had to hack on it some in terms
of what made sense for him to implement, and we wanted to get some experience
with it first. It's pretty simple, much like old Coco MIDI.  I mean, there
arena't many ways to do the same thing there.

#: 10150 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    07-Apr-91  10:55:43
Sb: #10126-MULTI-VUE
Fm: Randy Wilson 71561,756
To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)


Zack,

  You are probably using the Init module from Flight Sim II. It has the fix in
it, and was required for FS2 to work.

Randy

#: 10151 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
    07-Apr-91  10:55:54
Sb: #10120-#adduser util
Fm: Randy Wilson 71561,756
To: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 (X)


Jeff,

  No prob. Watch your mail box..

Randy

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#: 10156 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
    07-Apr-91  19:37:34
Sb: #10151-adduser util
Fm: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412
To: Randy Wilson 71561,756 (X)

Randy,

    Great, got it!  Works to!  Awesome - thanks alot.

-Jeff

#: 10157 S1/General Interest
    07-Apr-91  20:19:24
Sb: #MicroWare is where?
Fm: William Verthein 76557,3623
To: ALL

Where can I get info about OS-9000?  I've seen mention of MicroWare.  Are they
online and what's the menu page?

Thanx...

wgv


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#: 10308 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  19:06:31
Sb: #10157-MicroWare is where?
Fm: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611
To: William Verthein 76557,3623

Get information on Microware on CIS with GO MSC.

#: 10158 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-Apr-91  21:02:41
Sb: #file security help
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: all

Help!!! I've run into a possible problem with a program I'm writing. The
program has a help function which uses a special ASCII file for displaying the
various screens. The first time the user access the help function the file is
opened for read and scanned. The locations of the various menus and their names
is stored in an in-memory buffer. Once this scan is complete the displays of
the various screens is very fast. The file is left open and the pointers are
retained for future accesses.

This works very well. As a matter of fact, other processes can also access the
file, and since everyone opens for READ-only there is no record locking to
worry about. The problem comes if someone (like me!) decides to make changes to
the file (like adding an additional screen) when the file is in use. Making
changes really fouls the pointers up for the other guy.

So: Can my program sense somehow that the file has been modified? Or, can I
flag the file someway so that it can't be opened for WRITE when it being used.

The only easy method I can see is to set the attributes to read only, forcing
the superuser to do some deliberate fiddling before making changes. Anyone got
any other ideas? What I need is something like the 'shareable' premission which
will let others read, but not write....

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#: 10170 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Apr-91  15:34:55
Sb: #10158-#file security help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

As far as testing the file for modifications, what about doing an _gs_size()
call before each access. If _gs_size != old_size, then rescan. Obvious gotcha
is if you didn't change size, but altered the file (corrected a typo  etc.).
Another option might be to flag the time at file open, and then check the last
modified time before each access. This may or may not work, as I don't remember
if the last modified time is updated before the file is closed.

Pete

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#: 10198 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Apr-91  21:57:55
Sb: #10170-file security help
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete, Thanks for the earlier help with my open files delimma. Actually, the
solution was pretty simple: When I go to save a file I open it for write in an
non-shareable mode. If the file is currently being read by another process
(like my help function) the open will fail and I can alert the user. Tricky
stuff this OS-9. What gets me mad is that I spent hours developing complicated
schemes using file locking, etc. which didn't work - oh well, the joys of
programming.

#: 10159 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    07-Apr-91  21:52:18
Sb: MVDEMO
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Toby Farley, 71550,3152

I dl'd your MVDEMO program the other night and I am very impressed by it. I
would like to be able to use it but I do not have access to a C-COmpiler at the
moment. Thus I am going to try to convert it to BASIC09. I would greatly
appreciate it if you or any other person has any advice on how to go about it.
I would guess that I have to begin eith the line "clickdialog("Alert2".....and
probably continue until I reach the OWEnd(path); call. What I am the most
interested in is being able to have resizable windows such as your code
allowed.
 Thank you for any help. -- Brother Jeremy, CSJW

#: 10160 S6/Applications
    07-Apr-91  23:05:41
Sb: #Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: all

Does anyone know where on this forum library where I can find a patch for
Dynacalc so that I can use a Televideo terminal?  I think there is suppose to
be some patches somewhere here that modifies the file dynacalc.trm.  Please let
me know if you know where it is.  Thank you.

Bert Scheider

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#: 10171 S6/Applications
    08-Apr-91  15:36:51
Sb: #10160-#Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

Bert -

I used to use the SS-50 version of Dynacalc on the Gimix. It was able to use
various .trm files for different terminals. We tried moving some of the .trm
files to coco3's for use with attached terminals - no luck when using the Radio
Shack version of Dynacalc.

Pete

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#: 10176 S6/Applications
    08-Apr-91  20:31:15
Sb: #10171-#Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

I seem to recall hearing about a .trm mod here on CIS about a year ago. It's no
big deal, but since I have a Televideo terminal, it would be neat to be able to
do spreadsheets on it.  I can do word processing on it with Stylo.  Thanks any
way!

   (o)   (o)
       U
     \___/

Bert Schneider

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#: 10183 S6/Applications
    09-Apr-91  08:56:32
Sb: #10176-#Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

Bert -

That was probably the ANSI.TRM or VT100.TRM I uploaded for Steve Wegert to try
on his coco's remote terminal. No go.

Pete

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#: 10201 S6/Applications
    10-Apr-91  22:21:11
Sb: #10183-#Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Oh well, I guess if I knew what the codes were I could just make my own. No
time for that however! Thanks

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#: 10235 S6/Applications
    13-Apr-91  10:36:35
Sb: #10201-#Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

Bert, you might want to drop a note to Brett Wynkoop. I seem to recall he has
discected the .trm file and might be able to shed some light.

Steve

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#: 10249 S6/Applications
    13-Apr-91  21:28:07
Sb: #10235-#Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Thanks!  You don't happen to have his CIS account number (user no.) so I could
send him a message?  Or does he have a Delphi Account?

   (o)   (o)
       U
     \___/

Bert Schneider

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#: 10258 S6/Applications
    14-Apr-91  12:46:12
Sb: #10249-#Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

Bert,

Brett's all over these days. He can be reached here at [72057,3720].

Steve

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#: 10267 S6/Applications
    14-Apr-91  20:21:55
Sb: #10258-Dynacalc Patches
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Thanks, I'll try to get ahold of him!!!

   (o)   (o)
       U
     \___/

Bert

#: 10161 S4/MIDI and Music
    07-Apr-91  23:14:05
Sb: #UMUSE3
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To:  72467,1111 (X)

Mike, how are you doing?  I now have a CIS acount!  It only took 10 years to
get one.  Just kidding!  Anyway, I have been trying to get ahold of Ed for
months now and I still can't reach him.  He said he'd send me the latest UMuse3
version, but I haven't seen anything.  BTW, my Roland D-110 makes great music
with your program.  Now all I need are 200 Watt speakers, an amp, and a
pre-amp.  Right now I'm just using the keyboard's speakers.

Take care,

Bert

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#: 10417 S4/MIDI and Music
    23-Apr-91  21:39:47
Sb: #10161-#UMUSE3
Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

200 watts?  Hey, you giggin' on weekends?  Weddings? Nah, we know that even
classical organa music sounds best LOUD. I can bug Ed again -- I know he's been
sending out stuff the last month.  I hope yuour D-110 handles more notes and
channels than my MT-32 -- a great box, but drops notes if you sneeze. --mike k

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#: 10442 S4/MIDI and Music
    24-Apr-91  22:37:33
Sb: #10417-UMUSE3
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111

It is great!  I'll have to send you me rendition of the Peter Gunn Theme! I
even put in some drums!  The only problem is how to tell people with other
manufactuer's boxes what notes are what percussion instrument.  I guess I could
put that in the info status box or even include a small readme file.  As soon
as I put a few nice touches on it I'll modem it up to you here or Delphi.

Take Care.  And good luck at the Fest.  OH, btw, I got ahold of Ed.  I am also
working with Larry Miner on porting his code to work with the D-110 for
patches.  I first need to build a hardware MIDI pak.  I have some of the parts
- I want to modify my /T1 serial port which uses a 2MHz 6551 (on my wire-wrap
board).

Bye

Bert Schneider

#: 10162 S6/Applications
    07-Apr-91  23:17:08
Sb: #Driver
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To:  72300,1433 (X)

Mike!  How are you doing?  I now have a CIS account!  I finnally got my hard
drive working again after months of pulling teeth with Owl-Ware. I now have my
money back (after 4 or 5 months dealing with those folks!). And I now use the
Burke&Burke interface.  Works great!  Anyway, could I get you to send me that
driver again for the Rainbow NX-1000 for MVCanvas? It was lost with everything
else on my hard drive.  I had to re-build everything from scratch.  Even my
Mandelbrot program (which is almost done now, I would have had it ready for
last Christmas if my controller didn't crap out on me).

Take care. Bert

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#: 10163 S6/Applications
    08-Apr-91  01:28:55
Sb: #10162-#Driver
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

Yay!!! Glad to see you again ;-).  kev

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#: 10174 S6/Applications
    08-Apr-91  20:26:48
Sb: #10163-Driver
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

This is neat!  Paul said he's not ready for the Linus R&D project at this time.
Maybe another time.  I should have a system here any day! Keep me posted about
when you plan on coming out to the Springs!

    (o)   (o)
        U
      \___/

Bert Schneider

#: 10165 S6/Applications
    08-Apr-91  04:22:20
Sb: #10162-#Driver
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

Good to see you on CIS!  I'd love to see you mandelbrot program when its done.
(If you'd like I can port it over to the MM/1 too!  - If it's in C).

Glad you got your HD woes finally settled.

Mike

PS The color prtdmp is in you mail box.  If you need help figuring out how to
DL the thing, just holler.



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#: 10175 S6/Applications
    08-Apr-91  20:29:22
Sb: #10165-#Driver
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Thanks!!!  I'll try and port it to the MM/1 first.  All I have to code is my
alter palette routine and my change parameters routine and Version 1.0 will be
ready to send out.  I may go to Second City Software.  I'll send a copy to Ed
and see if he is interested.  If not, maybe someone else will. If you would
like an advanced copy with all of the files, I'll be glad to send it to you.  I
use .vef file formats.

   (o)   (o)
       U
     \___/

Bert Schneider

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#: 10182 S6/Applications
    09-Apr-91  05:20:19
Sb: #10175-#Driver
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

You KNOW that I'd love to see it!  (And play with it some. <g>)

You going to the Fest?  I'll be there,

Mike

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#: 10200 S6/Applications
    10-Apr-91  22:20:13
Sb: #10182-Driver
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike - I don't have time or money right now to go.  If they ever have one out
here in Colorado, then I'll go.  Right now I have a lot of work here at the
Academy to do and I'm teaching part time at night (to help pay off some
plastic!!  $30/hr!!) Bert

#: 10169 S3/Languages
    08-Apr-91  14:34:12
Sb: #Unknown Procedures
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

I downloaded a Basic09 file from this forum using Mikeyterm 4.7 in the CAPT
protocol.  I TRSCOPYed it to OS-9 and set the attributes.  The program loaded.
When I ran it, I got ERROR 043.  It didn't like SHELL "cls".  From edit, I
c*/cls/display c  and retried.  OK until   the program asked me to confirm my
inputs.  I got another ERROR 043, this time for the RUN inkey(confirm).How do I make inkey available to Basic09?  And for once I am able to
writing Basic09, is there a way I can test for availability of a needed module
so that my programs won't have to crash that way?a

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#: 10172 S3/Languages
    08-Apr-91  15:44:35
Sb: #10169-#Unknown Procedures
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich -

The ERROR 43 says 'cannot find the module' essentially. In the 1st case, you
didn't have a CLS program. In the second case, it appears that it couldn't find
the 'inkey' code in your execution directory. Is it there, and are the
attributes set to allow its execution?

Another easy (and somewhat speedier) technique is to merge a copy of the Inkey
routine onto the end of the packed module (once you have packed it, that is).

As far as availability, one method might be to use the SYSCALL module to effect
a F$Link to see if a module were in memory. Proper methodology dictates that
you'd also have to do a corresponding F$unlink to bring the link count back to
normal.

Pete

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#: 10173 S3/Languages
    08-Apr-91  15:44:58
Sb: #10172-Unknown Procedures
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Hmmm... make MODULE = Procedure.



#: 10181 S3/Languages
    09-Apr-91  03:40:31
Sb: #10172-#Unknown Procedures
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

I know inkey was on the same disk.  I think it was in the execution dir.  I
never set its attributes (I thought RS would make all their programs
executable, but I have already found that to be not so).  I'll see how that
goes.  Then I'll try again with merging.  At least I've made it this far!

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#: 10184 S3/Languages
    09-Apr-91  08:57:14
Sb: #10181-#Unknown Procedures
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich -

Keep plugging... I'm sure you're almost there.

Pete

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#: 10206 S3/Languages
    11-Apr-91  08:47:03
Sb: #10184-Unknown Procedures
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

inkey was executable already.  Perhaps my biggest Basic09 problem is that all
of my Basic09 disks have so little available space (26 free sectors each, I
believe).

#: 10177 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Apr-91  21:15:52
Sb: #termcap and windows
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: all

Going over the book "Termcap and Terminfo" has been a lot of fun, and pretty
informative. I highly suggest that anyone writing termcap applications gets a
copy of this (O'Riley and Assc., 632 Petaluma Ave, Sebastopol, CA 95472).

It mentions that there is a 'wi' termcap entry which defines a window. The
params for 'wi' are the window xstart,ystart,xsize and ysize. However, it does
not mention how to start the window. Any of you UNIX types have any more info
on this? The reason I ask is that if windowing is already defined by termcap
then it'll make writing portable applications much easier. And the applications
can then take advantage of 'hardware' windowing on units like the mm/1.

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#: 10185 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Apr-91  08:59:28
Sb: #10177-termcap and windows
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

FWIW - I believe X Windows just looks at the ROW & COL values. Placement of the
window is up to the XServer (of course, or the user).

Pete

#: 10178 S15/Hot Topics
    08-Apr-91  23:19:54
Sb: #I2C Interface
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Paul Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Paul;

  Interesting possibilities raised by the I^2C interface...... home control of
zone heating/cooling, door/window security, auto-dial and play pre-recorded
messagi based on event trigger, etc., etc.  Kinda like an electronic
home-sitter for those travelling, living alone, or just the tinkerer (that's
me).

  Will this interface require the (promised) MM/1 bus to take advantage of some
of the features?  I am getting a picture of a plug-in card with TTL logic and
dip relays for some of the functions described above.  Is this something that
IMS is planning to do?

  What's the latest on the shipping schedule?  Are you going to be shipping
kits out before the Fest?

  ...Jim

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#: 10202 S15/Hot Topics
    11-Apr-91  01:19:56
Sb: #10178-#I2C Interface
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

Jim,

Many of the I^2C interface projects can be done outside of the MM/1 case. That
means that most people won't EVER need to purchase the extra-slot bus. Even if
someone DOES buy the extra slot bus, the extra cards may or may not use/support
I^2C. That somewhat depends on third part support.

Interestingly, almost all of our customers are quite happy with the existing
I/O, even though IMS is committed to its expansion bus option.

Anyway, the I^2C will definitely NOT REQUIRE the MM/1 extra slot bus.

It should be really fun to work with, and I think will greatly satisfy the CoCo
Community Craving -- you know, if you can't do hardware hacking with a
computer, forget it.

Grin.

Paul



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#: 10237 S15/Hot Topics
    13-Apr-91  11:01:24
Sb: #10202-#I2C Interface
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Paul;

  Sounds good on both the I^2C and the delivery sched.  Still don't have a
clear picture of how to interface a 12V. relay directly to the MM/1.

  Maybe time to take a computer hardware course... I'm not afraid of soldering
irons and wire-wrapping, but it'd be nice to know what I'm doing! <g>

  BTW, on my way home last night, I saw a bright red VW Jetta for sale
alongside the road -- had a Ca. license plate "MM ONE".  Know anybody in
Silicon Valley that's a rabid MM/1 fan??

 ...Jim




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#: 10272 S15/Hot Topics
    15-Apr-91  02:22:30
Sb: #10237-#I2C Interface
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

Jim,

Interesting about that license plate! I looked through our California listings
-- we've got hundreds of names there, probably a coouple hundred in Silicon
Valley/San Francisco area. No telling if it's a fan!

Paul IMS

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#: 10285 S15/Hot Topics
    15-Apr-91  20:57:36
Sb: #10272-#I2C Interface
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

California?  "MM-ONE"?  It's gotta mean "Mickey Mouse". (Sorry  Paul).

John Wainwright

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#: 10317 S15/Hot Topics
    16-Apr-91  22:40:01
Sb: #10285-I2C Interface
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

John;

 > California?  "MM-ONE"?  It's gotta mean "Mickey Mouse". (Sorry  Paul).

Naaahh!  This ain't the greater LA area! (and it's not Marin county either!)

No provincialism in MY reply, eh?

Ooops, gotta go... the car phone is ringing, and the answering machine is in
the shop!

 ...Jim




#: 10316 S15/Hot Topics
    16-Apr-91  22:39:45
Sb: #10272-#I2C Interface
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Paul;

 > Interesting about that license plate! I looked through our California
 > listings -- we've got hundheds of names there, probably a coouple
 > hundred in Silicon Valley/San Francisco area. No telling if it's a fan!

Oh, well -- I wish I'd gotten the phone # but the car's been gone the past 2
days -- probably sold already.

re: latest mailing

  Yesterday in the mail, I got a 'Dear Valued Customer' letter telling me that
you hoped that I find the enclosed document enlightening.
  Well, sorry to say, the letter was the only thing in the envelope! What did I
miss?  Anything that's NOT in dl15?

 ...Jim




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#: 10376 S15/Hot Topics
    21-Apr-91  11:25:05
Sb: #10316-#I2C Interface
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

Jim,

No -- it was a summary that is basically the same as on DL15. Apparently, our
sales department sent out a few of the Dear Valued letters without the
enclosure. If you'd like a copy, just call Mary Kay at 301 718 4960.

Paul IMS

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#: 10380 S15/Hot Topics
    21-Apr-91  15:44:37
Sb: #10376-#I2C Interface
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Aha! I wondered why I didn't find the "enclosed document" that I was to find
interesting, but I figured it would be covered in your postings here and on
D****I. BTW, how's that shipping schedule on kits going?  I am fighting a
terrible urge to chase UPS trucks.

Just decided last week that I could make to Chicago for the R'Fest - round trip
air $69.00 (couldn't pass it up).  See you there.

John Wainwright

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#: 10433 S15/Hot Topics
    24-Apr-91  12:27:52
Sb: #10380-I2C Interface
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

John,

Great! Glad you can be there!

We'll be shipping kits this week. Manufacturing delays not of our doing have
aged me considerably. I'll be the guy with the white hair and cane ....

We'll also be handing out some machines to those folks who would have been sent
out in the first batch anyway. That only gives them about a ten day head start
on the people going out in the first batch. Then we have two MORE batches to
fill!

Lots of orders, and they keep on comin!

Paul IMS

#: 10179 S15/Hot Topics
    08-Apr-91  23:22:32
Sb: I2C Interface
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Paul Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Paul;

  Interesting possibilities raised by the I^2C interface...... home control of
zone heating/cooling, door/window security, auto-dial and play pre-recorded
message based on event trigger, etc., etc.  Kinda like an electronic
home-sitter for those travelling, living alone, or just the tinkerer (that's
me).

  Will this interface require the (promised) MM/1 bus to take advantage of some
of the features?  I am getting a picture of a plug-in card with TTL logic and
dip relays for some of the functions described above.  Is this something that
IMS is planning to do?

  What's the latest on the shipping schedule?  Are you going to be shipping
kits out before the Fest?

  ...Jim

#: 10180 S15/Hot Topics
    08-Apr-91  23:22:50
Sb: #MM/1 deliveries
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Paul Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Mike Knudsen writes on Internet ;

>Paul told me a coupla weeks ago that he expected to have kits on >hand at the
Rainbowfest, to hand out to those who'd already >pre-ordered them.  Saves
shipping, hopefully without adding >Illinois sales tax (about $50!).  Bring
your tools, something >to do that nite in your hotel room :-)


  Mike, if you're listening, or Paul --  I would sincerely hope that living in
close proximity, or being able to afford to attend the Rainbowfest would have
nothing ,o do with the delivery schedule for those of us that have long ago
ordered (and paid for) our MM/1's. I would think that they would be shipped
first to those that had ordered them first.

..Jim

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#: 10203 S15/Hot Topics
    11-Apr-91  01:22:43
Sb: #10180-MM/1 deliveries
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

Jim,

You have a very good point. We certainly will distribute them in chronological
order. SOME computers will be shipped right before the Fest, some delivered
during, and SOME delivered right after. Your system will be in one of those
groups. I DO know that Mary Kay Weglein, our sales director, is VERY attuned to
the needs of our customers to get them in the order that the order was taken.

Best,

Paul

#: 10186 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Apr-91  16:20:50
Sb: #OSK Data Modules
Fm: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565
To: all

I downloaded the 'conf.c' program from lib 12 here which doesn't work on my
system which is running OSK V1.3.

I've narrowed the problem down with following test program.  On the first
execution of this test program the data module is successfully created as shown
by the output from an 'ident -m':

 Header for:      confblock
 Module size:     $1050       #4176
 Owner:           0.0
 Module CRC:      $330C42     Good CRC
 Header parity:   $3222       Good parity
 Edition:         $1          #1
 Ty/La At/Rev     $400        $8000
 Permission:      $333        ------wr--wr--wr
 Data Mod, Sharable

The 'munload' step at the end fails with an error 221 "(E$MNF) Module not
found."

On the second execution of the test program, the 'modlink' step fails with the
same error.

 /* test.c  */

 #include <stdio.h>
 #include <module.h>
 #include <errno.h>

 #define BLOCKSIZE 4096
 #define DATA_NAME "confblock"

 char *_mkdata_module();
 mod_exec *modlink();
 int munload();

 main ()
 {
   int error_save;
   mod_exec *commod;
   char *module_ptr;

   if ((int)(commod = modlink (DATA_NAME, MT_DATA)) == -1)
   {
      error_save = errno;
      printf("test: Error number %d after attempt to link to confblock\n",
         error_save);

      if (error_save != 221)
         exit (_errmsg (0, "Error %d while linking to module\n", error_save));

      printf("test: Attempting to create a new data module.\n");

      if ((int)(module_ptr = _mkdata_module (DATA_NAME, BLOCKSIZE, 0x8000,
         0x0333)) == -1)
         exit (_errmsg (0, "Error %d while creating module\n", errno));
      else
         printf("test: Data module created.\n");
   }

   if ((munload (DATA_NAME, MT_DATA)) == -1)
      {
         error_save = errno;
         printf("test: Error number %d after attempt to unload confblock\n",
                error_save);
      }
   exit(0); }


I'm baffled.  Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!  -J



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#: 10187 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Apr-91  18:22:08
Sb: #10186-OSK Data Modules
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565 (X)

J -

I wonder if it's the combination of LINK/UNLOAD.... I believe UNLOAD is a 'zap
til gone' call (not near books at the moment), as opposed to UNLINK, which is a
'decrement link count'. Incidentally, if just attempting to link to verify
existance... nah, never mind. I was thinking of the UNLINK command, which uses
the sequence LINK, UNLINK, UNLINK. The first locates the module and sets up
pointers, the second undoes the link that was just done, and the last effects
the actual unlink.

Pete

#: 10188 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Apr-91  20:52:57
Sb: #10025-tops sh
Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720
To: David 76416,2451 (X)

Greeting-
     Use Emacs editing commands.  It is in the readme file with the shell ^P is
previous line.  ^N is next line etc. Also if you just want to repeate the last
command and you have history set just do a !!

-Brett

#: 10189 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Apr-91  20:55:04
Sb: #10042-upgrade of lmail
Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Greeting-
     Reply function and it handles tabs in a mail message since the coco screen
basarfs on tabs, at least hardware screens do I do not use gfx screens myself.
There were some bugg fixes as well.  Do not remember all right now.

-Bret

#: 10190 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    10-Apr-91  08:23:18
Sb: #hard/floppy/serial
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: all

I've finally gotten a CoCo3 based OS-9 system running and now I'm looking for a
hard drive interface.  Does anyone have a combination hard/floppy/ serial
interface they'd like to sell (maybe because they're upgrading to something
better)?  Alternatively, how about just a floppy/serial card? I'd like to stay
away from using a contraption like the multi-pack interface.  Something with
everything in one cartridge would be best. (Do they even make such things?)

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#: 10192 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    10-Apr-91  19:54:08
Sb: #10190-hard/floppy/serial
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

Considering that CRC-Disto is phasing out their COCO line, this may be a good
time to go with their SC-II , and 4-in-1 card. Rainbow has had it adverstised
for $200.00. Perhaps they will have a good 'Fest deal. Also try COCOPRO at
313-481-3283 or Jim's COCO corner, a BBS
 that has an order line for COCO PRO at 313-292-4713. Hope this might be of
some help.

-- Br. Jeremy, CSJW

#: 10191 S1/General Interest
    10-Apr-91  19:35:09
Sb: #10119-Printer 4 cheap
Fm: Chris Bergerson 72227,127
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

~ Pete,
 I'll take that Oki 92 off your hands, assuming that $75.00 takes the printer,
tractor feed as well as the Botek interface, (and a manual for the printer?).

 Let me know how you'd like to handle the details.  I can have a check in the
mail as soon as I get you agreement.  UPS-normal would be fine.



#: 10193 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    10-Apr-91  20:00:27
Sb: #T2 HELP
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: All

I am trying to write a dialer program to work with my modem, a BSR HAyes
compatible. I have tried several programs and except for
 standard terminal programs such as OSTERM 2.08, I cannot get the port to work
properly. I use /t2. Under OSTERM the command strings:

ATZ

ATX1VIQO (maybe that 1 should be an I)

ATDT

and this works. Why won't : OPEN PATH #/T2 WRITE /T2, "atz" ETC

work. What else do I need to do. I have asked for help with this on several
occassions, but as of yet nothing that has been suggested has worked in helping
me with any of the dialer programs which I have downloaded for CIS. I have
absolutely no idea what is wrong. Any code
 would be deeply appreciated.

Thank you to everyone who replies.

Brother Jeremy, CSJW.

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#: 10208 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    11-Apr-91  11:24:14
Sb: #10193-T2 HELP
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

Jeremey -

You need to have a carriage return on the end of the command for the modem to
interpret it.

Also - years ago I wrote a dialer program in ASM. It should be in DL9 (or in
the offline DL9 archives), if you're interested.

Pete

#: 10199 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    10-Apr-91  22:02:54
Sb: T2 HELP
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

I will get the information uploaded in a few days Jim. Thank you, Jeremy, CSJW.

#: 10194 S9/Utilities
    10-Apr-91  20:05:21
Sb: #10113-#pc xfer utils
Fm: Mike Stephenson 71655,415
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

~ Brother Jeremy;

   Both  disks have to have the same number of 'sides' for  PCDOS to  work 
properly.  This is not a restriction of PCDOS,  but  is hampered  by the COCO
single sided drive. (It's hard to read  the 'opposite'  side  of an IBM double
sided drive, when there is  no head to read it on a COCO single-sided drive
<grin>.)

   Once  upon a time I had single sided COCO OS9 40 track drives. I got along
fine using Bob Santy's PCDOS fine, IF I formatted the MS-DOG disks first as
single sided.

  eq. (assuming a two floppy IBM system) . .

     A:>FORMAT B:/1   {the /1 means format as single sided}

   Then  I  could . . .

     OS9:PCDOS -GET /D0 FOOFOO.TXT  /DX/FOOFOO.TXT

just fine.  I even used the COCO 40 trk disks as 'flippys' on the IBM just
fine.

   'Flippy'  meaning I punched another write protect slot on  the other  side
of the floppy, and added another 'read hole' opposite the  one already there. 
Then I formatted the disk on the IBM  as single sided, flipped it over and
formatted the other side of the disk.

   This  worked  great for transferring files and allowed  me  to maximize the
space used for transfers.

Enjoy;

Mike



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#: 10196 S9/Utilities
    10-Apr-91  20:09:54
Sb: #10194-pc xfer utils
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Mike Stephenson 71655,415 (X)

Thank you for your reply. I am going to have to try making a new boot disk with
PCDOS again. I couldn't get the last one to work
 properly. Under RS-DOS I used a program from Marty Goodman for Rainbow June
1986, MS2COCO so I have several MSDOS single sided disks to play with. I will
let you know what happens.

--Jeremy, CSJW

#: 10195 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    10-Apr-91  20:05:52
Sb: #Overlays & Mouse
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Kevin Darling, 76703,4227 (X)

Dear Kevin:

I have been working on a program with the umbardemo(?) code you uploaded. I
think that is the proper name. I am not certain how to
 set up the mouse to select menu items from an overlay window. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

Thnak you, Br. Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 10205 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    11-Apr-91  05:53:06
Sb: #10195-#Overlays & Mouse
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

Ha! I'm ahead of you.... I knew you'd ask that and already had a program around
here <grin>.  Now I just have to find it.  Hang on.

(I assume you mean, how would one emulate pulldown menu selections?)

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#: 10217 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    11-Apr-91  18:18:53
Sb: #10205-#Overlays & Mouse
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

How did you ever guess? (Grin) Thanks Kev. ---Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 10228 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Apr-91  04:35:51
Sb: #10217-Overlays & Mouse
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

Arrgh. I'm having to reconstruct the code. Hang on another day if you can.
 - kev

#: 10269 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Apr-91  22:16:32
Sb: #10217-Overlays & Mouse
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

PROCEDURE umbardemo
(* Run on 80col gfx screen
DIM valid,fire,mx,my,area,sx,sy:INTEGER
DIM menu_id,menu_item:INTEGER
DIM wd(3):STRING \(* This is the window descriptor)
DIM m1(3):STRING \(* "Disk" pulldown
DIM MId_Disk,MId_Custom:INTEGER \MId_Disk=33 \MId_Custom=34
DIM Disable,Enable:INTEGER \Disable=0 \Enable=1

RUN gfx2("Title",wd,"Demo",34,10,2)
RUN gfx2("Menu",wd,1,"Disk",MId_Disk,8,4,m1,Enable)
RUN gfx2("Item",m1,1,"Dir   ",Enable)
RUN gfx2("Item",m1,2,"Free  ",Enable)
RUN gfx2("Item",m1,3,"PWD   ",Enable)
RUN gfx2("Item",m1,4,"Format",Disable)
(* NOTE: # of items set to ZERO:
RUN gfx2("Menu",wd,2,"Custom",MId_Custom,0,0,0,Enable)

RUN gfx2("CurOff")
RUN gfx2("WnSet",1,wd)
RUN gfx2("CWArea",1,1,78,22) \(* CWAREA BACK TO TOP INSIDE LINE!
RUN gfx2("CurOn")
RUN gfx2("SetMouse",3,1,1) \(* Turn on autofollow
RUN gfx2("GCSet",$CA,1) \(* Use standard arrow pointer

LOOP 
RUN gfx2("OnMouse",0) \(* Wait for click
RUN gfx2("Mouse",valid,fire,mx,my,area,sx,sy)
IF valid<>0 AND fire=1 AND area=1 THEN 
RUN gfx2("GetSel",menu_id,menu_item)
IF menu_id<>0 THEN 
GOSUB 200 \(* handle items
ENDIF 
ENDIF 
ENDLOOP 

DIM custom_items(10):STRING
200 (* Menu Selections:
IF menu_id=2 THEN END  \ ENDIF  \(* Closebox
IF menu_id=MId_Custom THEN 
custom_items(1)="This"
custom_items(2)="That"
custom_items(3)="The Other"
custom_items(4)="Another"
(* Note: set rows to # of items:
RUN pulldown(menu_item,8,0,20,4,custom_items)
RUN gfx2("UMBar") \(* Turnhighlighted bar off!
PRINT menu_item
ENDIF 
RETURN 
(* **********************************************

#: 10270 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Apr-91  22:16:57
Sb: #10217-#Overlays & Mouse
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

PROCEDURE pulldown
(* usage: run pulldown(returnitem,x,y,cols,rows,stringarray)
BASE 0
PARAM menu_item,x,y,cols,rows:INTEGER
PARAM names(10):STRING
DIM valid,fire,mx,my,area,scnx,scny:INTEGER \(* mousepacket
DIM line,old,j:INTEGER

RUN gfx2("OWSet",1,x,y,cols,rows+2,0,1)
RUN gfx2("CurOff")
RUN gfx2("WnSet",3)

menu_item=0 \n=rows-1
(* Pad out strings:
FOR j=0 TO n
WHILE LEN(names(j))<cols-3 DO  \names(j)=names(j)+" " \ ENDWHILE

NEXT j

(* Now Print Names
RUN gfx2("BoldSw","on")
FOR j=0 TO n
RUN gfx2("CurXY",0,j) \ PRINT names(j); 
NEXT j

(* Wait for mouse to enter overlay:
REPEAT 
RUN gfx2("Mouse",valid,fire,mx,my,area,scnx,scny)
UNTIL area<>2

line=0
old=255 \(* last reversed invalid flag

LOOP 
RUN gfx2("Mouse",valid,fire,mx,my,area,scnx,scny)
(* Return item on fire, etc:
EXITIF valid=0 OR area=2 THEN ENDEXIT 
EXITIF fire<>0 THEN 
IF area=0 THEN 
menu_item=my/8+1
ENDIF 
ENDEXIT 
(* Handle if outside cwarea:
IF area=1 THEN 
IF old<>255 THEN 
RUN gfx2("CurXY",0,old) \ PRINT names(old); 
ENDIF 
old=255
ENDIF 
(* Handle if inside cwarea:
IF area=0 THEN 
line=my/8
IF line<>old THEN 
IF old<>255 THEN 
RUN gfx2("CurXY",0,old) \ PRINT names(old); 
ENDIF 
RUN gfx2("RevOn")
RUN gfx2("CurXY",0,line) \ PRINT names(line); 
RUN gfx2("RevOff")
old=line
ENDIF 
ENDIF 
ENDLOOP 
(* 
RUN gfx2("OWEnd")
END 

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#: 10271 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  00:00:13
Sb: #10270-#Overlays & Mouse
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Thank you for the code. I will probably have something else to bug you for in a
few days. (Grin)

--Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 10275 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  02:40:40
Sb: #10271-Overlays & Mouse
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

That's what I'm here for (time permitting ;-).  Let me know if you don't
understand something in it ... or if I goofed!

#: 10209 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  11:37:01
Sb: #MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: All

Well folks .... I'll be offline for a few days. Taking off this afternoon for
Las Vegas to get M.. umm MAAA... (ahem) MARRIED. We're headed out to Mike
Haaland's place of employ (Stardust) for the next few nights. Going with
another couple, who are old friends (and responsible for Marsha an I meeting
each other). Getting married Friday at 3:30 in the afternoon, and then will
probably head down to the couple's condo in Palm Springs for a day or two of
sun and eating non-Iraqi dates ;^}. Should be back Tuesday.

I feel strangely calm about all this after over 6 years of feet dragging. To
say that Marsha has been patient would be an understatement. See you all on the
'other side'.

Pete

P.S. Kevin - you know this means that YOU'RE NEXT.

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#: 10210 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  14:49:29
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Wow.w.w.w.w - what an announcement - really enjoyed reading it! Congratulations
and best wishes - enjoy yourselves!  Ches.

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#: 10213 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  17:12:01
Sb: #10210-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)

Thanks Ches!

Pete

#: 10211 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  15:18:50
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Well, we know YOU're getting a good deal, but Marsha?....

 <g>

Congratulations!

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#: 10214 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  17:12:41
Sb: #10211-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)

Ha ha! Hmm, mebbe I otter give Pam a call...

Pete

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#: 10219 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  20:41:21
Sb: #10214-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Ha! After 20 years, she KNOWS she got the bumm end of the deal! <g>

again.. congrats!

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#: 10301 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  13:17:25
Sb: #10219-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)

Thanks Wayne... yeah, same here. Now I can quit my job, and lay around the
house (grin)... I've already learned how to mutter mindless 'yes, dear's.....
<vbg>

Pete

#: 10212 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  16:14:21
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Congratulations Pete! All the best!

Wendell



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#: 10215 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  17:13:19
Sb: #10212-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X)

Thanks Wendell.... (got the date? <vbg>)!

Pete

#: 10216 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  18:02:52
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Congratulations!  (So are you taking something with you so you can dial up...
maybe not. :-)

I wouldn't call it foot dragging; I'd call it, uh, deliberation.  Yeah. :-) So
will you be at RAINBOWFest so we can congratulate you in person?

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#: 10299 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  13:14:28
Sb: #10216-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

JJ -

To paraphrase an old rec.humor punchline: "I'm a frayed knot". Between the
Vegas/Palm Springs thing and a trip to Chicago to see the boy in late May, I
fear that our travelling dance card (and vacation budget) is all but gone.

Appreciate the congratulations, and the .. uh.. new perspective!

Pete

#: 10218 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  18:21:24
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete,
  Congrats guy! Many years of happiness for both of you!
  Danno

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#: 10300 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  13:15:56
Sb: #10218-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Dan Robins 73007,2473 (X)

Thanks Dan... we're off to a running start.. she did well in Vegas. I think
Mike Haaland loosened up one of the slots just for her! (grin)..

Pete

P.S. Mike - don't tell Vinnie and Guido I said that!

#: 10221 S1/General Interest
    11-Apr-91  22:55:19
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Auuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh!

Pssst: no one tell my Marsha or I'll kill ya ;-).

Congrats, Pete!

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#: 10234 S1/General Interest
    13-Apr-91  10:35:29
Sb: #10221-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kev,
  > (No one tell my Marsha....)

  Hmmmmmmmm...what's it worth to ya Darling (after all...I'm just a short 30
minute drive away from your destiny).

  <devilish grin>    Dan

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#: 10260 S1/General Interest
    14-Apr-91  17:24:41
Sb: #10234-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Dan Robins 73007,2473 (X)

Dan  - too late... I told her myself, this morning <g>.  She thought they were
already married.

Nice try tho <laughing> - kev

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#: 10310 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  19:15:59
Sb: #10260-MMMAAA...
Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kev,
   Darn! Well....at least I didn't hold a couple of your cats hostage until I
got what I wanted! (Although....I don't even know what that will be.)
  <grin>   Dan

#: 10302 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  13:18:47
Sb: #10221-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kevin -

Thanks, Kev. Now where's your phone number.... hmm.. you guys are over the >10<
year mark, arencha?

Pete

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#: 10320 S1/General Interest
    17-Apr-91  05:29:17
Sb: #10302-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete - Heck, we're over the >15< year mark.  Would hate to spoil things now ;-)

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#: 10324 S1/General Interest
    17-Apr-91  10:28:40
Sb: #10320-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

..FIFTEEN...? I'm calling Mike Haaland today. You NEED to get to Vegas. (g)

Pete

#: 10236 S1/General Interest
    13-Apr-91  10:41:25
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Best wishes, Pete!

Steve

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#: 10303 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  13:19:46
Sb: #10236-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Thanks Steve! Feels pretty good so far. Then again, the week ain't out yet.....


Pete

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#: 10315 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  22:39:38
Sb: #10303-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete;

 > Thanks Steve! Feels prett
 good so far. Then again, the week ain't out
 > yet.....

Don't worry... it only gets better!  Take it from one who has walked a mile (or
more) in your shoes!

(watch out for those automatic "Yes, dear"s... they'll do ya in every time!)

  Congratulations to you and Marsha!!

 ...Jim




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#: 10323 S1/General Interest
    17-Apr-91  10:27:39
Sb: #10315-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

Thanks Jim! Yep, she already has the "yes, dear"s fingered out. Durn.

Pete

#: 10264 S1/General Interest
    14-Apr-91  19:53:13
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Any body need a priest?

--Brother Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 10304 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  13:21:17
Sb: #10264-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

Jeremy -

Thanks, but we got it covered! We almost had to get the poor reverend to come
to the Stardust though... I had some difficulty prying her away from the slots!

Pete

#: 10274 S1/General Interest
    15-Apr-91  02:40:00
Sb: #10209-#MMMAAA...
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Congrats, Pete, and best wishes to you both -- Say howdy to Mike, Kim, and
Michael Alexander for us!

Best,

Paul IMS

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#: 10305 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  13:22:53
Sb: #10274-MMMAAA...
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Thanks Paul! Said hello to all three of the Haalands, and got a chance to see
your 'baby' as well. Nice work!

Pete

#: 10223 S3/Languages
    12-Apr-91  09:29:36
Sb: #9908-C Problem
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Robert DeBolt 76417,2225 (X)

The long divide bug you found is very old indeed.  It exists in the origional
Microware library.  I will fix it in mine before I upload the next version of
the library.  In the meantime,

 at offset $617d is 6c 01 in clib.l
 or offset $7d02 is 6c 01 in clibt.l
 change that to     63 01

Carl

#: 10224 S3/Languages
    12-Apr-91  09:30:16
Sb: #10132-#clib bug
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)

Ah, the fruits of haste....

I fixed an off by one bug in localtime() last December, which, since ctime()
calls localtime() broke ctime().  I neither looked at it or thought about it. 
So, here is the deal..

 at offset $14c5 is 83 00 01 in both clib.l and clibt.l
 change that to     12 12 12

and the problem will go away.

Sorry to one and all.  And tell anybody else you know. I will put up a fresh
copy when I look at the math problem Bob DeBolt found.

Carl

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#: 10227 S3/Languages
    12-Apr-91  17:23:56
Sb: #10224-clib bug
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X)

Thanks very much for your reply and bugfix for clib.l. Your work is much
appreciated!

Hugo

#: 10276 S3/Languages
    15-Apr-91  02:42:24
Sb: #10224-#clib bug
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X)

Carl,

Mike H. has an LHarc for your MM/1 -- if you need it, let me know.

Paul IMS

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#: 10278 S3/Languages
    15-Apr-91  02:48:33
Sb: #10276-clib bug
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Actually, it can already be found in the 680xx DL area here, so Carl needn't
hit you up for it.

#: 10225 S1/General Interest
    12-Apr-91  09:31:41
Sb: clib bugs
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: all

Recently there have been two bugs found in my 6809 library.  One is in ctime()
- I put it there when I fixed localtime().  The other is in the long division
routine - it is Microware's bug.

I will put up new versions of the libraries, but for those who don't want to
download the whole thing for these two bugs, here are patches.

For the ctime() problem:
 at offset $14c5 is 83 00 01 in both clib.l and clibt.l
 change that to     12 12 12

For the ldiv problem:
 at offset $617d is 6c 01 in clib.l
 or offset $7d02 is 6c 01 in clibt.l
 change that to     63 01

My apologies to all.

Carl

#: 10226 S1/General Interest
    12-Apr-91  10:25:35
Sb: #9946-#SPELL2.PAK
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: SIMMULE TURNER 70651,67 (X)

Hey Simmy - whatever happened to that tape of GNU stuff?

Re: ar - why don't you send it to me.  I have a vax version I am merging with
my osk/sysV version before putting it back up here.

Carl

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#: 10405 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  22:56:21
Sb: #10226-SPELL2.PAK
Fm: SIMMULE TURNER 70651,67
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76

I sent the stuff about 2-3 months.  I'll make another copy of
the GNU stuff, and the ar source.  I mailed 'ar' to you from
my workstation, so it could have gotten lost on the network.

I'll give you a call tonight (4/22/91).

simmy


#: 10230 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Apr-91  07:35:45
Sb: #9928-#Null Modem Xfer
Fm: Len 72240,175
To: DonVail 70233,2037 (X)

I had that same problem until I set one modem (which isn't Hayes compatible) to
ORIG, and sent the other modem the command ATA from the keyboard.  The Hayes
compat answered right away.

Good luck!

-Len

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#: 10354 S7/Telecommunications
    19-Apr-91  23:49:38
Sb: #10230-Null Modem Xfer
Fm: DonVail 70233,2037
To: Len 72240,175 (X)

Well  MARTY GOODMAN from Delphi help me.  And the same thing that you explained
worked.  I have to set one modem to AT H1 O1 and the other modem to AT A. 
Worked great.

DONVAIL

Thanks.

#: 10231 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Apr-91  07:42:46
Sb: #t1 null modem
Fm: Len 72240,175
To: all

I'm trying to find a way to direct either of my terminal programs (OSTERM,
SuperComm) to /t1 so I can set up a serial port-to-serial port null modem
between two CoCo's, one of which is a CoCo 2 and would be running RSDOS.

Thanks!

-Len

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#: 10233 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Apr-91  08:49:20
Sb: #10231-#t1 null modem
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Len 72240,175 (X)

If I remember rightly, /t1 is the bit-banger.  It's not suitable for any
serious serial communications, though someone has made a valiant effort with
bitbang.ar, which I think you can find in DL10.

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#: 10241 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Apr-91  16:55:00
Sb: #10233-#t1 null modem
Fm: Len 72240,175
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

You're right, /t1 is the bitbanger.  I just want to be able to transfer some
files back and forth between a CoCo 2 under RSDOS and a CoCo 3 under OS9 via
null modem cable.  I have only one RS232 pak.

I guess an option would be to devise a null modem cable that would connect the
RS232 pak on the CoCo 3 to the bitbanger on the CoCo 2.  I have no idea at all
how to do that.

-Len

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#: 10243 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Apr-91  18:32:14
Sb: #10241-t1 null modem
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Len 72240,175 (X)

I think that in the bitbang.ar archive are instructions on how to wire the
cable, so that if you go that route, you'd have the poop on how to set it up.

#: 10297 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Apr-91  06:51:33
Sb: #10241-#t1 null modem
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Len 72240,175 (X)

Len,

Check out SERIAL.TXT in LIB 2. It contains all kinds of valuable information on
serial communications, how to set up the various CoCo (and other) serial ports,
and how to make cables to interconnect them. And yes, you are correct, the best
way to do what you want to do is to use the bit banger on the CoCo2, and the
serial pak on the CoCo3.

Bill

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#: 10306 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Apr-91  18:05:48
Sb: #10297-t1 null modem
Fm: Len 72240,175
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Thanks!  I'll give SERIAL.TXT a shot.

-Len

#: 10232 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Apr-91  07:57:24
Sb: MultiEdit
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Floyd Resler, 72500,2572

Thank you for all your help. I enjoyed our phone conversation lastnight. You
were correct about having to add in the fill patch on
 the GFX2 upgrade. It works like a dream now. If I am correct about the GET
statement it is: DIM response:STRING[n]  -- n being the length of the string
Response ="" GET #0,Response

I think that I've gotten it correct. I am going to start playing with GET/PUT
buffers.

--Brother Jeremy, CSJW

#: 10239 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Apr-91  12:47:05
Sb: #hard drive format
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To: All

OK everyone, the time has come for me to reformat my hard
drive.  It's given me 4 years of reliable service, so I figured
I should reward it :-).  

Anyway, I have a B&B interface with an ST-225 hard disk.

What are the best dmode parameters for it?  I remember someone
saying at some point that the #'s recommended by B&B were not
the optimal ones.

This is my current dmode:
 drv=00 stp=04 typ=80 dns=02 cyl=0264 sid=04
 vfy=00 sct=0020 tos=0020 ilv=16 sas=20

Hugo

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#: 10240 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Apr-91  16:46:14
Sb: #10239-hard drive format
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)

Your parameters are identical to the ones I'm using. I'll be watching the
responses as well!

Steve

#: 10283 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  17:52:18
Sb: #10239-#hard drive format
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)

Here are the parameters that I use for my B&B setup:

 dmode /hx

 drv=01 stp=03 typ=80 dns=02 cyl=0267 sid=04
 vfy=00 sct=0022 tos=0022 ilv=16 sas=10

 ...which is a 20MB Miniscribe


 dmode /hd

 drv=00 stp=03 typ=80 dns=02 cyl=0354 sid=06
 vfy=00 sct=0022 tos=0022 ilv=16 sas=10

..which is a 40MB Miniscribe

Note that the SCT= and TOS= parameters are both set to 0022 instead of 0020
like yours (and mine used to be). I read a spec on drive capacities and it said
thrt the Sectors per track (IBM-sized; 512 bytes) was 17. I said, "Hmmmm, if
you can get 17 of the 512-byte sectors on a track, then you should be able to
get 34 of our (OS-9's) 256-byte sectors.

     Calculations for 20MB Miniscribe Drive

  Cylinders      Heads   Sec/Trk  Sec. Sz
        615   x    4   x   32   x   256   =   20,152,320
        615   x    4   x   34   x   256   =   21,411,840

                                     Extra=    1,259,520

 ----------

    Calculations for 40MB Miniscribe Drive

  Cylinders      Heads   Sec/Trk  Sec. Sz
        852   x    6   x   32   x   256   =   41,877,504
        852   x    6   x   34   x   256   =   44,494,848

                                     Extra=    2,617,344

     The specs for the 40MB Miniscribe drive was somewhat less than 852.
     I noticed the highest cylinder that the specs listed as formattable
     was quite a distance from the "landing zone" (park track). It did not
     take a brilliant deduction but I figured that the space between the
     park track and the highest track was usable. So, I modified my
     descriptor to format it, too. It formatted fine, and I've been using
     that space (and the 2 extra OS-9 sectors per track) nor about a year.
     It turned out that using the documented high track made the calculations
     come out to a size that more closely  matched what a typical 40MB hard
     drive was supposed to be on an IBM or clone system. OS-9 WINS AGAIN!!!!

 Try it out.

 Lee



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#: 10284 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  18:22:21
Sb: #10283-hard drive format
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)

Thanks, what you say seems to make sense to my limited understanding of such
things. Thanks!

Hugo

#: 10242 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Apr-91  17:07:50
Sb: #Multi-Vue
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: Kevin Darling


Hi Kev,

One more question about Multi-Vue! I have my execution directory set up as
/d1/cmds. Now, this allows me to have my MV disk in /d0 and my applications
disk in /d1 - so far , so good. Now, if I want to use any of the MV functions,
I have to "set execute" to /d0/cmds, this I assume is normal. Now for the
question. If I change applications disks (/d1), I STILL have to do the "set
execute", and RETYPE /d1/cmds even though it already says that. I assume that
this is the equivalent of the CHX command in the normal shell. It is a pain in
the butt to do that anyway - so is there a way around that? My feeling is that
if the execution directory is already set to /d1/cmds, it should accept ANY of
my applications disk without having to retype the SAME dir name. In lieu of
that, would there be a "macro key" or something I could use to indicate the
exec is STILL /d1/cmds but a different disk?

I know, Kev - I come up with some BEAUTIES, eh? <grin>

Thanx much in advance!!

        Bob



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#: 10244 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Apr-91  18:36:56
Sb: #10242-#Multi-Vue
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Bob Archambault 76506,3544 (X)

The problem is that despite the name, not all /d1/cmds are alike (i.e. at the
same LSN on the disk).  OS-9 processes just keep track of the device and the
LSN of their current execution and data directories, for speed's sake.  (Any
time you, say, chd /h0/src/sysutils/spanner, you'll be very glad that's what
OS-9 does, because otherwise it would have to always work its way down from /h0
to the current data directory any time it saw a relative pathname!)

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#: 10252 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Apr-91  06:05:20
Sb: #10244-Multi-Vue
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

Thanx James,

I figured that to be the case, but I just thought I'd see if there was a way
around it. I see that MV's best would definitely be on a hard disk. Oh
well...maybe some day if I have the $$$ <grin>!

Bob



#: 10247 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Apr-91  20:55:12
Sb: #10242-#Multi-Vue
Fm: Mike Stephenson 71655,415
To: Bob Archambault 76506,3544 (X)

~
 Greetings Bob;

   What James said is true, but there is a way to cheat.

 Using your example, do this . .

 Format  disks  for /d1 and then MAKDIR CMDS on each disk  before  putting
 anything  else  on them.  This way all disks you do like this  will  have
 CMDS in the same place on each disk.

 You  can  then go ahead and copy files over to this disk and you will  be
 all set.

 eq:  when you exchange one of these disks for another like formatted  and
 MAKDIR  CMDS  disk,  CMDS will be in the same place, and no need  to  chd
 /d1/cmds.

 This  is an old trick we use to use back in OS9 LEVEL I, 35 track, single
 sided disk days.

 Enjoy,

 Mike

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#: 10253 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Apr-91  06:10:24
Sb: #10247-Multi-Vue
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: Mike Stephenson 71655,415 (X)

Thanx a lot Mike,

What you said makes a world of sense and right now I don't see why it wouldn't
work. If that's all it takes...it's a little work, but it would be WELL worth
it. Thanx a million for the suggestion and I'll get back to you and tell you if
it works in this particular application!

Thanx again,

    Bob



#: 10263 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Apr-91  19:45:48
Sb: #10247-Multi-Vue
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: Mike Stephenson 71655,415 (X)

Mike,

I did what you said...makdir CMDS on all my applications disks before putting
on the files. It worked PERFECTLY!! Thanx a lot! Boy, I'll tell ya, it was
getting a bit discouraging having to type the same execution directory every
time. It made me think - what good is this Multi-Vue if I don't have a hard
disk? But now it works great, thanks to your suggestion.

Thanx again!

    Bob



#: 10248 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    13-Apr-91  21:21:43
Sb: #Minix?
Fm: Jack Crenshaw 72325,1327
To: All

Hi, guys!  It's been awhile since I checked in.  Just wondered what I've been
missing.  Anything exciting going on?  Anyone been trying out Minix lately? 
What about PT-68/OS9?

Jack



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#: 10257 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Apr-91  12:44:08
Sb: #10248-#Minix?
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Jack Crenshaw 72325,1327 (X)

Hi Jack!

Drop into LIB 15 and read all the scoop on the new machines (3 of 'em). That's
what has most folk's attention these days.


Steve

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#: 10259 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Apr-91  16:41:21
Sb: #10257-Minix?
Fm: Jack Crenshaw 72325,1327
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

OK, Steve.  I'll do that.

Jack



#: 10277 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    15-Apr-91  02:45:52
Sb: #10248-Minix?
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Jack Crenshaw 72325,1327 (X)

Jack,

You may wish to check the Hot Topics library to get up to date.

Paul IMS

#: 10250 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Apr-91  00:57:49
Sb: #Kinq's Quest III
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Anyone

      All the Coco software is on sale real cheap! So... I picked up King's
Quest III for $5. Has anyone tried loading the whole thing into the Coco and
running it? I have the 1 meg upgrade and downloaded the 720k Ramdisk. I am able
to copy all the 'vol.n' files onto one 3.5" floppy and make a boot disk with
the rest of the stuff on it, but for some reason I get a black screen and
lockup after starting the program. I didn't try the ramdisk yet, but I know I
will have to make it somewhat smaller to be able to load the executables.
                                              Paul

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#: 10281 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  16:25:39
Sb: #10250-#Kinq's Quest III
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)

Did you reconstuct the table of contents (toc) file to properly point to the
locations of the vol.n files.

Lee



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#: 10286 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  21:09:48
Sb: #10281-Kinq's Quest III
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)

   As far as I can tell, I made the toc file point to disk2 side1 which
contains all the vol.n files. The toc file, though, doesn't tell that disk2 is
in /d2 and not in /d0 which I booted from. So I copied all the data files on
the /d0 disk to /d2 also and chd /d2 ; chx /d0/cmds after boot ; then Sierra
-r. It seems to go looking on the right drives but I just get a blank screen.
   The other side effect is that the disk drives run slow. The drivers are
patched for 6ms but they are running somewhere between 30ms and 6ms. I think
the problem might be in the boot, so I am going to build a new boot using the
original system master modules, as I know at least CC3Disk is not the original
version.
                                      Paul

#: 10251 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Apr-91  02:12:19
Sb: #sh.ar file problem?
Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427
To: Sysop (X)

I recently downloaded sh.ar from user 76416,2451 in DL12, in fact, I did it
twice.  Both copies were trashed at about the 50 percent point. That is ar
unpacked about half and then reported that the file was not an ar or was
damaged.

Do you have a backup copy of the file you could post?  Having messed with
Microware's shell, I am curious to see how some one else did a shell.

Thanks for the help.

Ken

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#: 10256 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Apr-91  10:20:51
Sb: #10251-#sh.ar file problem?
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Ken Drexler 75126,3427 (X)

Ken, the SH.AR[76416,2451] file seems ok here even though AR issues an error
after unpacking the last module. It appears there are two copies of each module
in the archive, ie:

 SH.1
 README.1
 SHELL.HELP.1
 SH
 README
 SHELL.HELP

I used the Coco "AR" program under OS9 to unpack the file. Do you get two of
everything when you burst the file?




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#: 10366 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    20-Apr-91  12:50:32
Sb: #10256-sh.ar file problem?
Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427
To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X)

Mike,

Thanks for the message.  That explains why it looks bad half way through. I
will take another look.  (I also hoped for source code.)

Ken

#: 10279 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    15-Apr-91  02:51:22
Sb: #10251-#sh.ar file problem?
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Ken Drexler 75126,3427 (X)

SH.ar I think is for OSK only although it's been a while since I downloaded it
and I may have forgotten the 6809 version if there was one -- or were you
interested in just the source code (which I believe does not exist in the US)?

Incidentally, after a few weeks with the Bourne shell on my MM/1, I'm sold. The
only weirdnesses are the redirection convnetion and the fact that it doesn't
automatically fork RunB. I get around the first by setting up aliases for all
the basic programs I use, a la

        alias drive runb drive
        alias color runb color

.
 and put that in my $home directory's .profile. On the redirection thing, I
either bite the bullet and do it the way Bourne intended, or I just call the
OS-9 shell, do the deed, and ESC back to Bourne. Neither is a big hassle.

Paul IMS

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#: 10367 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    20-Apr-91  12:53:44
Sb: #10279-#sh.ar file problem?
Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)

Paul,

Thanks for your message. I downloaded sh.ar (the one which is not a bourne
shell) to look at the source code out of couriosity.  I also grabbed the bourne
shell sh.ar.  With your encouragement, I will try it on my OSK machine.

Ken

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#: 10377 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    21-Apr-91  11:27:35
Sb: #10367-sh.ar file problem?
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Ken Drexler 75126,3427

Ken,

You may want to make sure that you don't type

                del  .*

under the Bourne shell. The os9 shell will properly delete all file names that
begin with "." EXCEPT for the current and parent directory entries. I heard a
report recently that another shell for OS9, maybe the Bourne, will delete even
those entries, and then walk backwards through the directory tree to delete
everything above.

Paul IMS

#: 10254 S1/General Interest
    14-Apr-91  07:08:39
Sb: Print Color
Fm: LARRY LANDON 73510,2536
To: All

I need help finding a print driver for Phantompraph. I am using an NX1000
Rainbow printer.  I can set the printer to IBM mode an in black and white but I
would really like to print out graphs in color, it would inhance my written
presentations.  I have tried all the drivers around and nine of them work.  It
seems that the drivers in the program are dependent on the program its self.

#: 10255 S3/Languages
    14-Apr-91  08:44:28
Sb: #PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

I tried to PACK a Basic09 procedure, but every time I get ERROR 214 (no
permission).  The only permissions that are off are Directory and Single User. 
What does it take to PACk?

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#: 10261 S3/Languages
    14-Apr-91  17:28:49
Sb: #10255-PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich - offhand, I might guess that you were swapping disks before doing the
Pack, perhaps?  Pack normally tries to go to the default exec dir disk.

You can also force it:  pack* >/d0/cmds/myprogram    or the like.

#: 10314 S3/Languages
    16-Apr-91  22:39:34
Sb: #10255-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich;

  Sounds like you're trying to 'PACK' a source file from the OS9> prompt.

  To pack a file, all one need do is 'load' it into BASIC09, and type pack a
the B: prompt.

  This places an executable of the source in /dd/cmds with the execute
permissions already set.

  Is this what's happening??

 ...Jim




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#: 10325 S3/Languages
    17-Apr-91  16:32:15
Sb: #10314-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

I was in Basic09.  The first reply (disk switching) seems to have the answer.
Under OS-9, I have to do a ***lot*** of disk switching.  Just two OS-9
configurations and making MultiVue bootable alone required a total of 500-600
disk insertions.

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#: 10326 S3/Languages
    17-Apr-91  20:48:27
Sb: #10325-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

You might want to consider getting a second drive.  If you have either the
FD501 or FD502 drive from Tandy, you can put a used $25 - $45 360K 1/2 height
IBM compatable drive in there.  I have a FD501 setup in which I removed the
original single sided drive, and replaced it with a 720K and a 360K disk
drives.   I use the 360K drive as drive /d0, and the 720K as drive
 /d1.  This in combination with the LR Tech 40Meg HD as /H0 makes for a
beautiful set.  This sure beats disk swapping anytime.

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#: 10330 S3/Languages
    17-Apr-91  21:56:47
Sb: #10326-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751 (X)

I am not going to =consider= getting a second drive:  I am **going** to get a
second drive!  I wasn't on OS-9 for 10 minutes before realizing the need for
it.  It is at the top of my hardware purchase list.  I have been wondering
about using a IBM PC drive, it would sure save $$$.  I have the FD-502.  For a
PC's drive, would any advance preparation be needed to make it work on the
COCO3?  And how would I need to (if at all) modify the instructions for
installing a 2nd drive that appear in the manual that accompanied the FD502? 
How about a 1.2Mb 5.25" PC drive?  I have more than a few such PC disks, and I
would like to transfer their data to DECB and/or OS-9 once I have a transfer
utility.  If I got a dime for every time I've had to switch disks I could pay
off the national debt:-).  I know I will miss diskswapping as much as I miss
CLOADing/CSAVEing and now reading 80 columns on a regular TV set.

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#: 10333 S3/Languages
    17-Apr-91  23:45:30
Sb: #10330-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich, I have another bit of help for you also that may be of some intrest. 
Depending on your set up, you should be able to use you 502 as a double sided
drive under OS9.  Although this wont solve all your problems, it will allow you
to at least have BASIC09 on the same disk as your other OS9 directories, ie.
CMDS, SYS, OS9BOOT.  If you have DMODE, it's a big help in pulling this off As
far as adding an IBM drive, it shouldn't be any problem, make sure the jumpers
in the drive are set right. Also, be sure and check the controler ribbon
conectors.  These may have to be changed as TANDY decided to leave out a few
pins on some of them making accessing side two immpossible.
  Back to the original subject.  DMODE will change your drive configuration for
you while using that drive.  The easiest way to do this is to type DMODE /d0
sid=2.  Then FORMAT /d1 a new disk. It will be double sided.  Put your original
disk back in and run CONFIG.  Your new boot that will be on your new disk will
cointain the double sided drive module. Then DSAVE /d0 /d0 ! SHELL.  This will
copy the filess from your single sided disk to your double sided one.  Do the
same DSAVE again with the BASIC09 disk. All you OS9 directories are now on one
disk, this should help out with BASIC09 problem as well as saving some trouble.
Give me a call back and let me know how it turns out.
                                   Steve Hamilton
                                   71570,1546

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#: 10381 S3/Languages
    21-Apr-91  22:17:34
Sb: #10333-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546 (X)

I tried to get the source code in DMODE.ASM into rma for assembly.  What I got
was a *long* list of errors scrolling up my screen which was eventually ended
by ERROR 001 (unconditional abort).  I used rma dmode.asm to load the assembler
and the source code.  Should I have added certain options?  Or am I doing
something else wrong?  This was my first time trying to load downloaded source
code.

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#: 10406 S3/Languages
    22-Apr-91  23:10:20
Sb: #10381-PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich, I'm having some trouble with my RS232 right now, left amessage asking
for a temporary serial OS9 Term prog on here earlier about it, so I having
trouble with my uploading capability.  Here's what I'll do though.  If yo like,
leave me your address in the E-Mail section, private, and I'll send you a disk
with DMODE, WMODE, and a couple of other items thqat should help you, can
probably get it to you before the weekend.
                              Steve
                                71570,1546

#: 10340 S3/Languages
    18-Apr-91  12:10:32
Sb: #10330-PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

As Stephan stated, the FD502 is a 360K disk drive.  Check your connectors in
the case to make sure that the pins are not pulled.  If they are you can make
another cable using the standard connectors and 36 wire ribbon.  You will have
to remove two wires from one side of the ribbon.  The controller for the disk
drive as far as I know can only support double density disks, that is 360K or
720K.  I accidently bought a 1.2 Meg disk drive and used it in my
configuration, and found out that it wouldn't work.  Fortunately I found
another person who had a 720K drive, and swapped with him.  The problem, was
that the 1.2 Meg drive has a data transfer rate that is higher than the
controller could handle.  Maybe that problem has been resolved by now, but
check here before you do it.



#: 10345 S3/Languages
    18-Apr-91  23:53:39
Sb: #10330-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich, Just a note to my note.  Try using COBBLER insted of CONFIG.  COBBLER
makes an exact duplicate of your OS9BOOT with any changes that you have made
while online, ie. DMODE sid=2, XMODE, TMODE, etc.  Then use DSAVE as previously
stated.  Another reason to use it is you don't have to go through all that
trouble you would for CONFIG, switching disks, selecting modules, etc. If you
need DMODE, I can get it for you, I'm not sure if it's in this DataBase or not
(I think it's Freeware, hope I didn't just offer the wrong thing in fornt of
God and the whole world <grin>.)  To get the correct syntax for DMODE, just
type DMODE /D1 and it will list the parameters.  Hope this is some help to you,
Talk to you later.
                             Steve
                              71570,1546

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#: 10347 S3/Languages
    19-Apr-91  14:14:26
Sb: #10345-PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546 (X)

Ohhhhhhhh.  DMODE is in a SIG.  No wonder I couldn't find it in my Lvl2 manual.
I was getting ready to ask you if you had the command right or if you're using
Level 1, 3 or 4.  I'll see if I can find it in a LIB here. As long as it is not
ar'ed I can get to my OS-9 disk.  I have a copy of Sterm I will use to get ar
et.al. later, but I have to re-reconfig to be able to use that (cf. CoCo Forum,
sec. 9).  I plan on doing that tonight.

#: 10348 S3/Languages
    19-Apr-91  14:28:41
Sb: #10345-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546 (X)

I found an ar'ed dmode which, as I said, is not usbale at present.  I did find
DMODE/ASM.  This I did d'load since I do have the Lvl2 Dev Kit and I ought to
be able to assemble the source code.

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#: 10350 S3/Languages
    19-Apr-91  19:12:20
Sb: #10348-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,  If you have any problem with the DMODE.ASM, I'll be happy to upload my
DMODE without the AR, it's fairly short so it shoudn't be too much to down load
fo you.  Another good one to usee is WMODE, does the same thing to your screen
settings. You would be able to boot up with an 80 or 40 column screen if you
desire.  If I can be of any further help, just call.
                                        Steve
                                         71570,1546

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#: 10353 S3/Languages
    19-Apr-91  22:48:30
Sb: #10350-#PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546 (X)

I found WMODE in Lib10.  But it's ar'ed :-c

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#: 10362 S3/Languages
    20-Apr-91  10:02:10
Sb: #10353-PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich, OK, I'll try and upload them myself here in an unarked format, get back
to you in a little while.             Steve
                                     71570,1546

#: 10346 S3/Languages
    19-Apr-91  00:07:00
Sb: #10325-PACKing In Basic09
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich;

 Glad to hear you got it figgered out.  Yep, OS-9 and especially MV _really_
needs to be run from a Hard -isk to make it pleasurable.

  Might consider saving the $ towards one... they're becoming very cheap -- at
least the MFM and RLL ones under 40 Meg.

 ...Jim



#: 10262 S9/Utilities
    14-Apr-91  19:34:25
Sb: #Areacode
Fm: Al Fleagle 72527,1354
To: All

Is anyone familiar with a program named areacode?  It would give the area code
of a city if you typed in the name.  If you typed in the area code it would
list states and cites where that area code is located.  I've lost my copy. Can
anyone help?

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#: 10266 S9/Utilities
    14-Apr-91  20:18:16
Sb: #10262-#Areacode
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354

I have it, though no source.  Looking at it just now seems to indicate that it
must be grepping through a file (good thing, since the Chicago area 312 area
code split, etc.!).  I'll look through docs, in case there's any restriction on
redistribution, and if not, I'll upload it.

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#: 10298 S9/Utilities
    16-Apr-91  08:02:45
Sb: #10266-#Areacode
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

JJ,

I have the source if needed. Want me to shoot it to you so a full set of files
can be ar'd together?

Steve

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#: 10307 S9/Utilities
    16-Apr-91  19:05:02
Sb: #10298-#Areacode
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Sounds like a good deal to me.  Please do.

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#: 10327 S9/Utilities
    17-Apr-91  21:44:10
Sb: #10307-Areacode
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

Will do, suh.

Keep your eyes peeled on your mail box.

Steve

#: 10265 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Apr-91  19:54:56
Sb: #Disk Drives @ 6ms.
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: ALL

Another question,

I just installed in my COCO 3 a modified RS-DOS chip that accesses my drives at
6 ms. I also have my device descriptors set-up to run all my drives at 6 ms.
However, when I boot OS-9, here's what happens: I type DOS, the drive runs at
6ms UNTIL the OS-9 BOOT message appears then they switch back to 30 ms until
the OS-9 startup message appears then they go back to 6ms. Is there any way I
can keep my drives at 6ms through the ENTIRE boot-up process?

This seems pretty weird to me! (what else is new *;-> )

Thanx,

 Bob



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#: 10268 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Apr-91  22:15:41
Sb: #10265-#Disk Drives @ 6ms.
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Bob Archambault 76506,3544 (X)

Bob - yes, it's the BOOT module going at 30ms.  Try this patch:

 00C0 03 -> 00
 017C 03 -> 00

Let's see. You'd have to patch BOOT in memory, then os9gen or cobbler a new
bootdisk (unless you have ways of patching the kernel on track 34... possible,
if you go look for the Boot module up there). - kev

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#: 10282 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  16:32:06
Sb: #10268-#Disk Drives @ 6ms.
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Does OS9Gen or cobbler correct the CRC when either one of them are re-creating
the boot?  Wouldn't changing 03 to 00 at 00C0 and 017C cause a problem in OS9's
CRC verification?

Lee



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#: 10291 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  23:27:21
Sb: #10282-Disk Drives @ 6ms.
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)

Oops. Right, of course you'd want to reverify the CRC also.  Thanks for
pointing that out, just in case!

#: 10287 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  21:17:16
Sb: #10268-#Disk Drives @ 6ms.
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kev,

I tried my dEd program to make that patch, but it doesn't seem to allow me
access to Boot. The first module I can get to in the OS9Boot file is OS9p2.

Any ideas on how I can do this? Or, in lieu of that, can ya tell me how to
patch it in memory?

Thanx Muchly!

   Bob



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#: 10292 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  23:32:55
Sb: #10287-Disk Drives @ 6ms.
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Bob Archambault 76506,3544 (X)

Bob - yah, REL, BOOT, and OS9p1 aren't in the os9boot file.  They're stored
on track 34 of the bootdisk (emulating normal OS9 computer ROMs, in a way).

Do you have modpatch?  Try that, then the os9gen/cobbler.  A modpatch file
would look something like:

l boot
c 00C0 03 00
c 017C 13 10
v

That would link, change, and verify.  Perhaps someone else with more modpatch
experience can jump in with more details?

#: 10293 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  23:33:48
Sb: #10268-Disk Drives @ 6ms.
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

PS: the 017C changes are actually 13 -> 10, not 03 -> 00.

Sorry about that.

#: 10280 S6/Applications
    15-Apr-91  15:53:36
Sb: #10105-Phbook11
Fm: Brian Stretch 76176,1216
To: Tony Cappellini 76370,2104

Hmm.. how'd I work the defaults.. didn't I make it so that if you enter nothing
for strings (like modem prefix/postfix) it assumes the default you entered in
record #1 (your personal info)?  Hope I did..

#: 10288 S5/OS9 Users Group
    15-Apr-91  21:18:41
Sb: #Flight Simulator Trouble
Fm: STEPHEN WALLACE 73720,2420
To:  76625,2273 (X)

I'm having a difficult time getting FS2 to run in a VDG window. I'm using the
ftdd.dd desciptor and vrn.dr driver from vrn.ar. Every time I try to run FS2, I
get an error 202, interrupt polling table full. When I run the tstfs2 program,
it usually works, but sometimes it also give the same error 202. My system
consists of a 512K cc3, a disto super controller II, and 2 disk drives. My
bootup terminal is an 80 col text screen. I'm really getting tired of
re-booting every time I want to run FS2. How do I get this program to run in a
VDG window???



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#: 10290 S5/OS9 Users Group
    15-Apr-91  21:49:33
Sb: #10288-Flight Simulator Trouble
Fm: Bruce Isted 76625,2273
To: STEPHEN WALLACE 73720,2420 (X)

~ Stephen,
  You need to fix the Init module, or use the one from the original FS2 boot
file.  If you want to fix your current Init module, all you have to do is patch
the byte at offset $000C.  Change it from a $0F (or whatever) to $0C, and then
verify the CRC.  That should fix you up.
  Bruce

#: 10289 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  21:20:07
Sb: #Phantom file
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Anyone

       Where is a file called "dmode" mentioned in the archive of 'RAM.BIN' in
DL10? (?)
                       ????Paul

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#: 10294 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Apr-91  23:36:07
Sb: #10289-#Phantom file
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)

Paul - see DMODE.AR in Lib 9, utils, I think.

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#: 10312 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    16-Apr-91  21:57:19
Sb: #10294-#Phantom file
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

     Thanks, what I'm trying to do isn't going to work anyway. I'm trying to
put all of King's Quest III in RAM but there is some sort of conflict between
it and the Disto 'mega' driver program.

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#: 10321 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    17-Apr-91  05:32:48
Sb: #10312-Phantom file
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)

There were one or two games which assumed coco's could only go to 512K... and
so don't set their block numbers up correctly.  I think KQ-III was one of
those.  That's why the "mega" program (instead of automatic), so you can boot
normally and play those if you wish.  Too bad tho, eh?

#: 10295 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Apr-91  00:39:50
Sb: #MW BASIC & C
Fm: Bob Taylor 73270,3124
To: all

I need to use compiled C functions in a MW BASIC program consisting of a
lot of procedures. Can this be done? If so how?

Thanks in advance.

Bob

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#: 10318 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    17-Apr-91  05:24:46
Sb: #10295-#MW BASIC & C
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Bob Taylor 73270,3124 (X)

Bob - Basic can call assembly language subroutines, so should be possible to
cobble up a C function, yes.  I coulda sworn I saw a 68K doc on this, but maybe
I'm just thinking of the 6809 docs.

The parameter passing from basic is shown in the basic manual... the C
functions would just have to be wrapped up in a subroutine module. I know a
bunch of us keep meaning to try this out <g>.  Wanna be the first?

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#: 10337 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    18-Apr-91  02:42:15
Sb: #10318-MW BASIC & C
Fm: Bob Taylor 73270,3124
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kevin,
  Not really :-). However, since it would be much faster to add a user
interface to a program I did not write, than to rewrite it in C--I'm
elected.  Will kludge something VSN.

Bob

#: 10296 S1/General Interest
    16-Apr-91  05:45:17
Sb: #Magnavox 8CM515
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: ALL

Does anybody know what the resolution of the Magnavox 8CM515 monitor is?

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#: 10319 S1/General Interest
    17-Apr-91  05:28:06
Sb: #10296-#Magnavox 8CM515
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X)

From memory only, it's 640x240.  I think it was the 8CM505 which was only 40
column.  If I'm wrong (and I very well could be!), I hope someone jumps in!

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#: 10332 S1/General Interest
    17-Apr-91  23:00:58
Sb: #10319-Magnavox 8CM515
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kevin (and Joerg) - right.  I have the 8CM515 and its 640x240 or maybe 250?
Anyway does fine on 80 col text and hi-res graphics with the COCO 3. I hope to
plug it into a new MM/1 soon. JohnW

#: 10342 S1/General Interest
    18-Apr-91  21:07:27
Sb: #10319-Magnavox 8CM515
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

So it's what's called in the MS world CGA.   Thanks for the info.    Joerg

#: 10309 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    16-Apr-91  19:12:15
Sb: #Home Publisher
Fm: Bruce Isted 76625,2273
To: All

  One of our CoCo club members is looking for a printer driver for Home
Publisher and her DMP-110 printer.  The problem appears to be due to the
DMP-110's graphics spacing, which I think is 960 DPL as opposed to most DMP
printer's 480 DPL.
  A long time ago I heard about a disk Tandy sold that had Home Publisher
printer drivers for a number of Tandy/Radio Shack printers.  If anyone knows
the part number please let me know what it is.  Or for that matter, if anyone
knows of another printer driver, or patch for an original Home Publisher
printer driver, that will be just as good.  Thanks for any help!
  Bruce /ex s

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#: 10313 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    16-Apr-91  22:39:04
Sb: #10309-#Home Publisher
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Bruce Isted 76625,2273 (X)

I remember calling Tandy, I think it was either at Software Express, I think
tha't what they used to call their catalog, I remember the
 phone number was 817-338-2395. That is the Tandy Computer Customer Service
Line. See Rainbow, Jan '89 pg. 6. There was also a printer driver package Cat #
90-0911 for $19.95. Call Express Order at 800-321-3133. The first for a fix for
the serial drivers for the DMP
 printers. Hope this helps. --Brother Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 10363 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    20-Apr-91  10:55:16
Sb: #10313-Home Publisher
Fm: Bruce Isted 76625,2273
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

~ Brother Jeremy,
  Thank you very much for the information.  I think the printer driver disk
will do the job, now all I have to do is order it.  A local Radio Shack manager
tried to find the catalogue number, but wasn't successful.  I doubt if that
disk was ever sold by Intertan in Canada, but I should be able to order it out
of the USA.
  Bruce

#: 10328 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    17-Apr-91  21:53:33
Sb: #10309-#Home Publisher
Fm: VERN STOCKMAN 70415,1057
To: Bruce Isted 76625,2273 (X)

Bruce, According to a review published in Rainbow Mag. May/89 the printer
drivers for DMP110, CGP220 and others was available as P/N 90-0911 for $19.95
from most RS outlets ?. I recently succeded in getting the DMP430n driver,
included in the Publisher package to work quite well with my CGP220 (640 dpl)
which corrosponds to Publisher output format by changing offsets 247,248 and
25C,25D from 0320 to 0280 plus a little tinkering with offsets 4D,4E to adjust
the L margins more to my liking the only problem still present is that when
borders are selected the right border is just off the paper like at column 82,
Hi I suspect the DMP110 would probably work ok with the 640 dpl setting I use
but with only say 2/3 of page printed, while using 03C0 (960) at above offsets
would probably break up Publishers output.
                                      Regards, Vern.

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#: 10364 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    20-Apr-91  10:55:20
Sb: #10328-Home Publisher
Fm: Bruce Isted 76625,2273
To: VERN STOCKMAN 70415,1057 (X)

~ Vern,
  Thanks very much for the RS catalogue number and the other information.  I
think the easiest path is to order the printer driver disk, so I'll do that
before I try tinkering!
  Bruce

#: 10311 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    16-Apr-91  19:16:12
Sb: #Congratulations
Fm: Bruce Isted 76625,2273
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete,
  Congratulations to you and Marsha on getting married.  Live long and prosper,
or whatever it was that Mr. Spock used to say...
  Bruce

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#: 10322 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    17-Apr-91  10:26:38
Sb: #10311-#Congratulations
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Bruce Isted 76625,2273 (X)

Whew - thanks Bruce. Thankfully, it's _MR._ Spock, and not _Dr._ Spock! The
youngest just turned 18 yesterday ;^}...

Pete

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#: 10365 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    20-Apr-91  10:55:24
Sb: #10322-Congratulations
Fm: Bruce Isted 76625,2273
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

~ Pete,
  Yeah, I thought about quoting Dr. Spock instead of Mr. Spock, but I couldn't
recall anything the Dr. ever said.  Besides, after all that time it didn't seem
likely to be a shotgun wedding, so what good would be done by quoting a baby
doctor!  <GRIN>
  Bruce

#: 10331 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    17-Apr-91  22:48:24
Sb: #Amiga 68K
Fm: Steven Reider 72356,3607
To: all

?exit I am looking for any information relating to OS-9 for the Commodore
Amiga, or for anyone who might know where to find more info. I hear someone in
Australia might be distributing OS-9/68K for the Amiga. If you know anything
about this, please leave a message.



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#: 10334 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    18-Apr-91  00:27:32
Sb: #10331-#Amiga 68K
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Steven Reider 72356,3607 (X)

Steven  - it was Digby Tarvin from Australia who did the port a coupla years
back.  I believe he's here in the US for a while again;  will check on it
unless someone reading this can answer.  I know there's a desire to get it sold
here (I'd like it, for one!).

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#: 10435 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    24-Apr-91  12:36:53
Sb: #10334-Amiga 68K
Fm: Steven Reider 72356,3607
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227

Thanks for the help.  I'm very interested in this port of OS-9.

                            Steve

#: 10336 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    18-Apr-91  02:18:42
Sb: #10068-#OS9 Windowing System
Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

re:Clear as mud... Yep, I guess you could say that! :-) I wanted to have two
things going, one in each seperate window, e.g. time update in one window
 and a command line update in another overlay window. Could you give the syntax
for that not using GFX2?<grin>

BTW, I was wondering about the high speed poke that is initiated under RSDOS
with POKE 65497,0, has the same effect under OS9 or is OS9 at that speed all
the time?

Thanks for the help...

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#: 10338 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    18-Apr-91  07:31:47
Sb: #10336-OS9 Windowing System
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003

On the CoCo 3, OS-9 Level Two runs at 1.78 MHz all the time--save for some
device drivers that folks wrote here and there that slow down to do I/O (one
for the speech cartridge comes to mind) for some things that couldn't take the
higher speed.  I just avoid anything that won't go fast enough. :-)

#: 10341 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    18-Apr-91  18:32:32
Sb: Thanks
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: Kevin Darling

Thank you AGAIN, Kev!

Once more you have solved my problem. I used the MODPATCH utility as you said,
and then COBBLER'd myself a new bootfile, and she runs at 6 ms. all the way
through now.


Thanx again!

    Bob



#: 10343 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    18-Apr-91  22:30:15
Sb: RainBow Article
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: ALL

From June 1988-November 1988 The Rainbow ran a series beginning with a program
called MVSHELL. It continued with GFX3 in August. Next came Mod 1 and Mod 2 in
the Oct. '88 issue and ended with DOMENU and DOALERT in the Nov 88 issue. I
have never been able to get any of it to work. At best DoMenu hangs up at "Type
<Control E> or <BREAK> to Stop!!!" Even though most of it is now obsolete due
to the new GFX2 module, I would like to see it up and running as a guide as I
try to convert it to use the new GFX2 module. Any help would be deeply
appreciated. --Br. Jeremy, CSJW Delphi: REVWCP CIS Br. Jeremy, CSJW, 76477,142



#: 10349 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    19-Apr-91  18:07:54
Sb: #5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: all

I've got a chance to pickup a pair of 5.25 inch 720K drives cheap. Does anyone
know if they will work with the FD-501 floppy controller? If so, what
parameters would I need to use?

Thanks, David Betz

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#: 10352 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    19-Apr-91  22:40:13
Sb: #10349-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

I believe you can for one of your drives.  You will have to reconfigure your
OS-9 for a new drive descriptor.  I know this can be done on the FD-502. BTW,
are you also using DECB?  I don't know how your new drives will affect DECB if
at all.  I don't have 720K drives; I found this out in my PACKing in Basic09
thread in Sec. 3.

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#: 10360 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    20-Apr-91  08:02:00
Sb: #10352-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

I hate to admit it, but I don't even know what DECB is.  I'm rather new to the
CoCo and OS/9.  Can you describe what it is and why I might want to use it?

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#: 10361 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    20-Apr-91  09:09:45
Sb: #10360-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

David -

DECB is the deck on which they serve the Columbian coffee... er.. (sorry -
early and pre-coffee here!).. actually, it's the acronym for Disk Extended
Color Basic. It's the maximum Radio Shack Color Computer configuration (that
is, before OS9 showed up). It involved the original Color Basic Rom, the
Extended Color Basic Rom (mostly graphics and enhanced string handling), and
the Disk Basic Rom (which was mounted in the controller). A total of 24K of
Basic/OS. The ROMS resided at $A000, $8000, and $C000 respectively in the 64K
address map.

Pete

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#: 10390 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Apr-91  11:02:53
Sb: #10361-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Oh, I see.  Well, I don't have DECB (at least not that I know of).  In any
case, I don't really care if it works.  I'm strictly interested in OS9. BTW, I
did manage to get a 720K 3.5 inch drive working last night.  It was nice to see
all that free space!

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#: 10393 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Apr-91  14:50:09
Sb: #10390-5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

If you have a disk controller, you have DECB!

Pete

#: 10369 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    20-Apr-91  19:20:16
Sb: #10360-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

You've already been told what DECB is.  Why might you want to use it?
1. There is a lot of software for DECB for sale and available for you to
download in the CoCo Forum.
2. It is not as powerful as OS-9's Basic09, but you can do a lot with DECB,
and programming in DECB is at least to some extent easier than in Basic09.
As soon as you turn on your CoCo, you probably see something like
   DISK EXTENDED COLOR BASIC 2.1
at the top of your screen.  You could say that DECB "boots up" in milisec-
onds.  Just go through the Extended BASIC manual that came with your CoCo
and you can begin writing (simple) programs in an hour's time.  Becoming
well acquainted with DECB can help you understand Basic09 better.  And
your Extended BASIC manual is designed to help teach you programming,
whereas the Basic09 section of the OS-9 Level II manual better serves as a
reference for those who already know what they're doing.  Also, high res-
olution graphics is a lot easier to accomplish under DECB than Basic09.
I use both, but some users have totally left DECB for OS-9 (and not without
some good reason).  BTW, there is a program called R.S.B. that lets you run
DECB under OS-9.  I don't have it, though.

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#: 10391 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Apr-91  11:04:51
Sb: #10369-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Thanks.  I guess I hadn't noticed that DECB was Disk Extended Color Basic.
You're right that it appears on my screen when the system boots.  Too bad I
can't get OS9 to boot automatically.  Then I could banish DECB forever! :-)

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#: 10398 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Apr-91  20:29:05
Sb: #10391-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

If you *really* want to be free of DECB, you can always get out your soldering
iron....:-)  I'm sure it's possible to make it boot automatically--esp. if you
have a hard drive--but I don't know if the required hardware is out there for
one to buy.

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#: 10426 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    24-Apr-91  11:01:02
Sb: #10398-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

I guess I don't want to be rid of DECB bad enough to give up the 'DOS' command
that allows me to boot OS9!  I'll wait until I find someone who sells an
autoboot rom for OS9 on floppies (can't afford a hard disk interface).

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#: 10431 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    24-Apr-91  11:16:27
Sb: #10426-5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

David -

In days gone by, I used to sell just that (autoboot EPROM). If you want to
discuss it further, drop me a cmail and I'll give you the scoop.

Pete

#: 10437 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    24-Apr-91  13:56:10
Sb: #10426-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

If you're into burning  your own ROMs, then you could patch in the necessary
autoboot from floppy.  I know a fellow over in Ft. Worth that set up his
floppy-based system so that when he powered it up, it would check to see if an
OS-9 Boot disk was in drive 0, and if it was, it would boot from it.

Lee



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#: 10451 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    25-Apr-91  09:18:32
Sb: #10437-5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)

I've got a RS FD-501 controller and I understand that the proms for it are
rather expensive.  Also, I don't have a prom burner.  It looks like I might be
better off investing in a new floppy/hard disk controller. Anyone have the
phone number for CRC so that I can get the current price for one of the Disto
units?  Alternatively, does anyone have a hard/floppy controller for sale?  I'd
prefer one of the non-stop controllers.

#: 10374 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    21-Apr-91  03:25:04
Sb: #10349-#5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: David Betz 76704,47 (X)

David - sure can.  What you'll need to do is to hook up one at first (as /d1)
so that you can still boot from the 40tk drive until you've gen'd up a new 80tk
bootdisk.

The L-II disk has the descriptors needed, I think.  Something like "d1_80ds.dd"
or similar.  Or use "dmode /d1 sid=2 cyl=50 stp=3"  to make any /d1 double
sided, $50 cylinders (80tks), and 6ms step rate.

Hardware-wise, you should be able to just set the jumpers to the drive number,
and for HM instead of HS (head load on motor, not select), and plug it in.

Get them, then yell for help if needed.  At least half the people here must be
using them, altho perhaps have forgotten over time what they did to make a new
boot <grin>.  Like me.  - kev

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#: 10392 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Apr-91  11:06:52
Sb: #10374-5.25 inch 720K drives
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Thanks, Kevin.  I did as you suggested and the new drive seems to work just
fine!

#: 10351 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    19-Apr-91  22:37:15
Sb: Monochrome boot
Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
To: All

The addition of a second CoCo III with a monochrome monitor (the other one has
a CM8) has made it evident that I would like to attack whatever module has the
initial palette and sets montype during boot so I could change things. So, the
question is: what module(s)? What offset? Too bad; when I graduated to the CM8
a couple of years back I turfed all the window descriptors and boot files I had
so painstakingly set up for monochrome. Now that I need them back, they're not
there, sigh. Anybody know where to look?

Oh, a second question. While I was at it I got a no-halt controller and 3 in 1
board. I presume STERM is the way to go? DL'd it the other night but still
haven't cobbled together a power supply and DB25 to 10 pin header cable so
haven't trid it.

And a comment for those who may be looking for a printer: like many others I
was attracted to the Star NX1000 a couple of years back and bought one. Great -
at first. But it has the world's shortest printhead life (like some cars where
you replace the brake disks every second pad change you apparently need a new
printhead about every second ribbon on the NX1000). In addition to the one I
have here, we have 4 at work and they are all the same, so beware of low cost
as your only consideration. Symptoms of dead printhead: Grey (rather than
black) characters, even with a new ribbon, and poor dot registration that makes
the characters look fuzzy. I have 3 other (older) printers and there is no
problem with printheads even after 10 years in one case so I suggest you
consider the price of printhead replacement as part of the cost of the Star.

#: 10357 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    20-Apr-91  00:07:08
Sb: #9983-FONTS
Fm: DonVail 70233,2037
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

The fonts that you get with the Home Publisher are data fonts only.  They are
represented in graphics format and not in an 8 by 8 or 8 by 6 Also the STDFONTS
that come with OS9 have some control codes imbeded into the file to load the
character set into a buffer for the graphics window to use.  There is no way
that you can use the Home Publisher fonts from shell without doing some major
rewritting of the SCF.MN to understand the way Home Publisher stores in font
data.

DONVAIL

#: 10358 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    20-Apr-91  00:09:33
Sb: #9984-#OS9 LEVEL 2.NEW
Fm: DonVail 70233,2037
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

First of all.  Is there a new OS-9 Level II coming out? That's the question.

DONVAIL

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#: 10373 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    20-Apr-91  22:25:45
Sb: #10358-OS9 LEVEL 2.NEW
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: DonVail 70233,2037

From what I have heard from Kevin Darling, yes. When, I am not certain. I
believe that some of the messages should still be online.

I believe that the updated GFX2, for example, is actually a part of that
package.

#: 10359 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
    20-Apr-91  04:26:37
Sb: #10099-#RiBBS 2.0 help
Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
To: John Wight 76370,2100 (X)

  well, i tried starting from re-boot, running RCONFIG and using menu option #1
to get the palettes set correctly.  then ran menuedit.  /NOW/ it gets to the
main menu, and stops with an error #203 Illegal Mode.

  this is, to say the least, a /bit/ fr frustrating.

                               Ed.


"KMA-68!!"
                                   >>>>>S S<<<<<
                                   !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#: 10370 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
    20-Apr-91  20:43:37
Sb: #10359-RiBBS 2.0 help
Fm: John Wight 76370,2100
To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X)

Did you get an error 203 with menuedit or with RiBBS? I don't think chaning
palette colors with RCONFIG should have such an effect, as the only thing
changed is colors./exit



#: 10371 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
    20-Apr-91  20:47:03
Sb: #10359-#RiBBS 2.0 help
Fm: John Wight 76370,2100
To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X)

RiBBS isn't the easiest thing to set up. Do read the docs again carefully, and
try, try, again. Do you know about the FIDONET RiBBS echo? If you don't give me
l there (and less expensive, too).

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#: 10375 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon
    21-Apr-91  05:15:59
Sb: #10371-RiBBS 2.0 help
Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
To: John Wight 76370,2100

  true, RiBBS isn't the easiest thing to set up, but, most of it was quite a
bit easier than other things i've messed with.  a LOT easier than getting the
stock Multi-Vue package set up and all the patches found & applied for example.

i've spent quite a bit of time reading the docs, and will continue to do so,
while i do want to switch over as soon as i can, i'm not in /that/ much of a
hurry.

 the error 203 that i mentioned comes not from RiBBS, but from MenuEdit itself.
it'll set up it's black text on white background screen, print the MenuEdit
main menu, then error out with #203.

FidoNet RiBBS echo would be a good idea, except i haven't found a local node
that carries it here in columbus, oh.

          Ed.

#: 10372 S9/Utilities
    20-Apr-91  21:16:58
Sb: dynacalc.trm file
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To:  72057,3720

Brett, I understand you modified the dynacalc.trm file to allow a terminal to
use Dynacalc remotely.  Is this so?  If so, is your code public domain? Will it
support a Televideo 920 or 925 terminal?  How can I get access to it?

   (o)   (o)
       U
     \___/

Bert Schneider

#: 10378 S1/General Interest
    21-Apr-91  14:35:25
Sb: #Mouse Balls
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: All

For those of you that think IBM is too stuffy,  the following made it's way
into my incoming mail -

------ ------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: IBM Ball Replacement

Abstract: Mouse Balls available as FRU (Field Replacement Unit)

Mouse balls are now available as FRU.  Therefore, if a mouse fails to
operate or should perform erratically, it may need a ball replacement.
Because of the delicate nature of this procedure, replacement of mouse
balls should only be attempted by properly trained personnel.  Before
proceeding, determine the type of mouse balls by examining the underside
of the mouse.  Domestic balls will be larger and harder than foreign balls.
Foreign balls can be replaced using the pop-off method.  Domestic balls
are replaced using the twist-off method.  Mouse balls are not usually
static sensitive.  However, excessive handling can result in sudden
discharge.  Upon completion of ball replacement, the mouse may be used
immediately.
It is recommended that each replacer have a pair of spare balls for
maintaining optimum customer satisfaction, and that any customer missing
his balls should suspectmlocal personnel of removing these necessary
items.

To re-order, specify one of the following:

P/N 33F8462 - Domestic Mouse balls
P/N 33F8461 - Foreign Mouse balls

--------------------------------------------g----------------------------

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#: 10385 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  06:49:07
Sb: #10378-Mouse Balls
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

Heh-heh.  Yeah, I love that one.  Thanks for posting it too, as a friend was
asking just the other day if anyone had a copy, and I had no idea where to get
one from!

#: 10379 S1/General Interest
    21-Apr-91  14:36:28
Sb: #Iraqi missiles
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: All

Now that Desert Storm is over, the story can finally be told...
 
  Inertial Guidance used in Iraqi missiles (for the layman)
 
  "...the missile inows where it is at all times.  It knows this because
it knows where it isn't.  By subtracting where it is from where it isn't
or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains
a difference,for deviation.  The inertial guidance system uses deviations
to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position 
where it is, to a position where it isn't, arriving at the position
where it wasn't, it now is.  Consequently, the position where it is,
is now the position where it wasn't, and it follows that the position
that it was, is now the position where it isn't.
  In the event that the position where it is now is not the position
where it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation (variations are
caused by external factors, and the discussion of these factors is not
considered to be within the scope of this report).  The variations being
the difference between where the missile is and where the missile wasn't.
If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be
corrected for by the Mark II sys em, however the missile must know where
it was also.  The 'thought process' of the missile is as follows:  
because a variation has modified some of the information which the missile
has obtained, it is not sur  where it is.  However, it is sure where it
isn't (within reason) and it knows where it was.  It now subtracts where
it should be from where it wasn't (or vice-versa) and by differentiating
this from the algebraic difference between where it shouldn't be and
where it was, it is able to obtain the difference between it's deviation
and it's variation, which is called ... error."

 ...This company also produces an extremely accurate 'command guidance
    system'...



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#: 10386 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  06:50:00
Sb: #10379-Iraqi missiles
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

A software manual writer must've written that report! ;-)

#: 10383 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    21-Apr-91  22:40:05
Sb: #VEF.HLP
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Dear Kevin In the May 1988 issue of Rainbow, pg. 178, Dale Puckett mentioned
that you were able to save the Multi-Vue screen images in .VEF format. This was
Was used by Bill Brady to print in the MOTD newsletter. How is this done? Could
one use a screnn dump utility and redirect it to a file instead of a printer.
As is true about most things, I no absolutely nothing about this. What programs
would be needed for such an undertaking? --Jeremy, CSJW. Ps. See you on
Saturday.

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#: 10387 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Apr-91  06:53:46
Sb: #10383-VEF.HLP
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

I use Ron Lammardo's VEFIO command all the time for doing just that.

I believe it should be in Lib 10 here under VEFIO.AR.  Also might need WINFO.AR
subroutine module if that's not included with VefIO.

It allows you to snap any window to a file.  Then you can do what you want from
there (edit/print) with any tools you have.

When Dale wrote that article tho, there was no such tool, and I had to go
rummage through coco memory to snap out the pictures by hand <grin>.

#: 10384 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  00:43:51
Sb: #OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

I know that OS-9 can address the CoCo3's cassette port since OS-9 can make use
of the hi-res joystick interface.  But since I have only one program which uses
that interface, the cassette port goes almost totally unused. Can I use the
cassette port for a third floppy drive, a hard drive, a RS232 pak, a printer,
ordinary analog audio in or out, or just *something* useful?  Since the CoCo is
not exactly loaded with I/O ports and my 3-slot MPI can do only so much, I want
to get the most of what ports I do have. Any ideas?

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#: 10388 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  06:55:57
Sb: #10384-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

One problem might be that any sounds also use the joystick chips, and so it
might be tough to use the cassette port for anything without possibly running
into trouble.

I think some have used the motor relay for things, tho.  Just POKE'd from
basic09 etc.  That give you any ideas?

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#: 10396 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  20:21:12
Sb: #10388-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

One, yes.  I can use that relay to kick a bigger relay to turn on or off
something a little bigger than a cassette recorder.  I can have a PACKed
procedure doing that in the background, perhaps based on the current system
time or a command I might be able to create.  Do you know what that POKE is? I
have such a POKE that can be used in DECB, but I doubt that it would work in
Basic09.

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#: 10401 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  22:17:20
Sb: #10396-OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich - not offhand, tho I'd guess that the same poke would work just fine
under basic09... it's to the hardware, of course.

There may even be a command for toggling that relay someone uploaded.  I'll
look.  Perhaps someone else with a better memory can check the poke address
also.  But give the one you have a shot and see if it works.

#: 10408 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  23:20:49
Sb: #10396-OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich -

Years ago I wrote a command (in C) called 'relay' that did what you wanted. It
may still be in DL10 (or DL9). Also check the list of archived files in those
DL's, as it may be offline now.

Pete Lyall

#: 10409 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  23:23:14
Sb: #10396-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Just checked... it's RELAY.AR in DL10. Source is included (meaning that you
could derive the address of the POKE for your own reasons).

Pete

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#: 10424 S1/General Interest
    23-Apr-91  23:19:30
Sb: #10409-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Good thing the source code is there:  I cannot unar files (or get a binary file
to OS-9 *and* make it work).  But if I could unar the ar'ed version, would I
need RS's C Compiler to run it?  I have tried to get that but was told they
cannot get it.

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#: 10429 S1/General Interest
    24-Apr-91  11:12:40
Sb: #10424-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Yes and no... almost everything I ever posted included 1) Source 2) Executable
binary ready to use and 3) Documentation.

Next question: Why can't you un-AR files? No reason you shouldn't be able to.
Do you have ar09.bin? Are you using an OS9 terminal program? In any case, we
cannprobably get you from here to there if you give a detailed description of
the problems you're having.

Pete

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#: 10438 S1/General Interest
    24-Apr-91  14:28:17
Sb: #10429-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

I thought your RELAY pgm had a RELAY.ASM in ASCII (as does DMODE.ASM).  After
reading your msg I found that was not the case, so I cannot presently access
your program at all.  I tried getting AR09.BIN but could never get it to work. 
I cannot get the current sterm since I cannot unar the ar'ed files and the
unar'ed is over 100K; my limit is 40319 bytes.  An earlier sterm was sent to me
unar'ed via CISmail.  I got it DOSOR9ed but cannot make it work on a true OS-9
formatted disk.  Several threads in the CoCo Forum describe what the problems
are and what I have done so far.  These include "ar Problems", "OS-9 reCONFIG",
"Preparing /d0/sterm" and one or two others. Set your message age selection far
enough back to search and read.  I think 60 days is far enough back.  But if I
don't get this resolved fairly soon I I will just have to call downloading
anything from this forum (and others with OS-9 pgms) to be a lost cause.

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#: 10439 S1/General Interest
    24-Apr-91  17:26:14
Sb: #10438-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

FWIW, those discussions should have been held here. What better place to
receive OS9 assistance than the OS9 Forum?

For starters, I'm making the following assumptions. Correct me where I'm off:

  a) You're using a RSDOS based terminal package
  b) You're using DOSOR9.BAS to move the files

Strategy: grab a small os9 terminal package that's tried & true to go after the
bigger stuff.

Preparation: You will need to have the IRQ Hack installed in your RS232 pak in
order to get satisfactory serial I/O under os9. Read the file in DL2 called
SERIAL.TXT for background. I may also have a separate file up there called
IRQHAK.TXT. Again - READ this/these for background.

Action: use your terminal program to go after Xcom9I.BIN (xcom9 - am Xmodem
capable terminal program that runs under os9 LI or LII), Xcom97.txt (the basic
manual for it) and Xcomch.txt to see what the special tweaks in Xcom9i.bin are.
All are plenty small enough to fit in 40K.

Next, use DOSOR9 to get Xcom9i.bin over to your os9 disk. Name it 'xcom9' and
place it in your /d0/cmds directory. Having done that, type: ATTR
/D0/CMDS/Xcom9 e pe [enter].

Read through the two Xcom9 doc files. Ensure that you have the IRQ hack
installed. For those fearful of soldering, a jumper clip may be used (wire with
dip hooks on each end) instead.

Set your T2 descriptor to the appropriate baud rate using Xmode (note: DON'T
'INIZ T2' before you do this). Then start up Xcom9 like this:
    Xcom9 /t2 [enter]

Xcom9 should start up and give you a status line. Don't worry about the
display. You can simply type the dial command you use to get onto CIS (ex:
ATDT5551212[enter]).

Once you've connected & logged on, you can initiate an Xmodem download of a
file by typing: DOW filenm.ext/proto:xmodem (from within the libraries of
course). Then setup Xcom9 to receive the file by typing the command key (either
Clear or CTRL @), X (for Xmodem), R (for receive), and probably B for binary
(forget....). You can now download directly to disk any sized file that will
fit there. I'd reccommend AR09.Bin and the Sterm package for starters.

Pete Lyall

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#: 10445 S1/General Interest
    24-Apr-91  23:05:07
Sb: #10439-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

My terminal program is Mikeyterm 4.7 running under DECB.  I transfer text files
with TRSCOPY and binary files by DOSOR9.BAS.  I do not have a RS232 pak; I am
using the DC modem pak.  I know that can be converted to a RS232 pak, but I
will lose my modem if I do that.  I have never successfully exported to OS-9 a
pure binary file.  If I run Ident on the DOSOR9ed file, I ALWAYS get a Module
header is incorrect! message, even if the CRC is good (it usually is good). 
Once I Copy the file to a disk that was formatted by OS-9, and then run Ident
on the copied file, I ALWAYS get a Moudule header is incorrect! message and
nothing else.  If I try to load it anyway, I will get an illegal module error
message.  The only hope I see is getting a ASCII Basic09 "loader" that will
"create" the program.

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#: 10453 S1/General Interest
    25-Apr-91  09:48:58
Sb: #10445-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

IF you are getting MODULE HEADER INCORRECT, it could very well be that the file
has Xmodem padding (xmodem rounds all files it transfers out so that they are a
multiple of 128 bytes in length). When you do IDENT on a file, IDENT reads the
module header, grabs the length and crc information, and then reads that far
into the file to see if the CRC is correct up to that point. If it is, and if
it is not at end of file, ident assumes that you have merged multiple modules
into a single file (which is perfectly fine). It then goes on to read the next
module header, but instead of seeing $87CD (header start bytes for os9/6809),
it sees Xmodem padding and complains that MODULE HEADER IS INCORRECT. This may
well be your problem.

The fix for this is easy:

 1. Move the file to your CMDS directory
 2. Set its attributes to E and PE
 3. Load the module (it's in memory now)
 4. Delete the 'padded' copy in your CMDS directory
 5. Use the SAVE command to save a copy back out to disk

Note: this is not REQUIRED. The LOAD command will only load in as many bytes as
look legitimate (i.e. length) anyway, so you could run programs even though
they have padding on them in the interim. Merging with padded files wouldn't
work though.

If you need a copy of the SAVE command (LII didn't have one), there's a PD copy
in DL9 or DL10.

If you're using LII and have Virq's active (you do unless you changed
something) and have the M1 descriptor and its driver in place, you should
probably be able to use the Modempak under os9 as well.

Pete

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#: 10461 S1/General Interest
    25-Apr-91  16:51:08
Sb: #10453-OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230

On the CoCo Forum, I have been told about the XMODEM padding.  When I try to
load these files, I get ERROR 205 (Illegal Module Header).  I thought I didn't
have a SAVE but in actuality I do.  The DC modem pak can be used under OS-9 IF
the module MODPAK is present.  When I reCONGIGed to add /m1, ACIAPAK made it to
the new disk but MODPAK did not.  I re-reCONFIGed adding /m2 and did get
MODPAK.  Beyond Basic09, I have not been merging modules.  My OS-9 is LII. 
This may soon be moot, however:  this morning, CoCo Fourm sysop Steve Wegert
offered to USMail me a copy of Sterm (no version specified).  If that doesn't
do the trick, nothing will.  So I might be getting up and running after all.

#: 10389 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  06:57:18
Sb: #10384-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Oh yeah. A coupla years back someone wrote an article for Modern Electronics,
where he converted the joystick port to an rs232 interface... even included a
L-I driver for it in the magazine!  Dunno if I still have it.

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#: 10397 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  20:23:45
Sb: #10389-#OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Now that's more like it.  If you can at least get an approximate issue date I
would prob be able to find it in the local library or order it from them.

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#: 10402 S1/General Interest
    22-Apr-91  22:20:09
Sb: #10397-OS-9 and the Cass Port
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Yikes <grin>. I bet I put that issue in storage a while back.  I do recall that
it was one of the first issues of the new Modern Electronics (there was an old
ME which died many years ago).  If I find it tho, I'll yell.

#: 10394 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Apr-91  19:12:21
Sb: #os9
Fm: thomas aubin 70540,1666
To: thomas aubin

Help I have a Tandy CoCo with os9,a multi-pak and modem program pak. I am also
using tandy deskmate which also uses os9. My problem is that I can't seem to
get os9 to work with my modem pak. I can't use my disk drive to save files
downloaded by modem as a result. Is there anyone out  there that can help me?

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#: 10395 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Apr-91  20:13:23
Sb: #10394-#os9
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: thomas aubin 70540,1666 (X)

What exactly happens when you try to use os9 with your modem pak?  Also, could
you list the output you get when you type "xmode /m1" at the shell prompt?
Thanks.

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#: 10440 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    24-Apr-91  21:54:29
Sb: #10395-os9
Fm: thomas aubin 70540,1666
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

I do not get any output on the screen when using deskmate. I haven't tried
xmode/m1 yet but I will. I have followed the instructions in the

deskmate manual but all I get is a blank screen. I don't even know if the other
computer I'm connected to can recieve me at  that point. Thanks for your help.



#: 10400 S7/Telecommunications
    22-Apr-91  21:37:37
Sb: #Serial Terminal Program
Fm: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546
To: ALL

Does anyone know of an OS9 Terminal program that I could use through the serial
port with a DCM-5 modem.  My RS232 pack is on the blink so I'm having to
survive without it till I can get it fixed.  Any help would be appreciated.
P.S. I was hoping for a small one that I could download for the time being.
                                     Steve Hamilton
                                     71570,1546

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#: 10407 S7/Telecommunications
    22-Apr-91  23:19:28
Sb: #10400-#Serial Terminal Program
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546 (X)

Baiscally, without the RS232 port you're dead in the water under OS9. You could
use your RSDOS terminal package, and then use DOSOR9.BAS (DL10) to convert the
snagged files over to os9.

Pete

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#: 10425 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Apr-91  04:17:20
Sb: #10407-#Serial Terminal Program
Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

  there is one alternative to the RS232 pak, BITBANG.AR (in DL10 i think)
contains a d communications.  i've used it a few times myself back before i got
my RS232 pak, and it does work.  it's a bit sluggish, and i wouldn't expect it
to be worth much at anything faster than 1200, but it does work.


"KMA-68!!"
                                  >>>>>S S<<<<<
                                  !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#: 10430 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Apr-91  11:14:40
Sb: #10425-Serial Terminal Program
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X)

Edward -

Thanks.. I was aware of that. While I didn't write it, I did solicit it from
its author and post it for him here. Ed (author) acknowledged that serious
serial work is better served by an RS-232 pak or equivalent.

Pete

#: 10410 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    23-Apr-91  09:46:08
Sb: #3.5' drive
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: All

 I have an IBM 3.5" external drive. There is a 33 pin cable coming out of the
back and a controller card for IBMs. Any ideas on how I might be able to get it
working with my CoCo and OS9?
  Rex

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#: 10411 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    23-Apr-91  18:52:29
Sb: #10410-3.5' drive
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X)

Folks sell adapters that will let you hook up 3.5" drives to cables meant for
5.25" floppies--check out any issue of *Computer Shopper*.  (Folks like JDM
Microdevices (I *think* I spelled that right...:-) that sell parts are what
you're looking for.)

#: 10449 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    25-Apr-91  07:57:20
Sb: #10410-3.5' drive
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X)

Rex,

Mark Griffith did a tutorial on just this type of project. Look for TINYDR in
the Tutorial Library.

Steve

#: 10412 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    23-Apr-91  20:39:39
Sb: os9
Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544
To: Thomas Aubin

Thomas,

In Telecom's (Deskmate) STATUS screen, you'll see "serial port" - type /m1 in
that space. That will allow Deskmate to access the Modem Pak (of course, your
baud rate is 300 only).

Good Luck!

   Bob



#: 10415 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    23-Apr-91  21:32:26
Sb: 3 in 1 board
Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
To: All

I just bought a Disto Super Controller II with the 3 in 1 board (version 2.0).
It was part of a bunch of surplus stuff and is missing the RS232 cable. The
manual I got with it is for the 4 in 1 board. My problem is that I can't figure
out the pinout of the 10 pin RS232 header connector on the board. The pin
numbering in the manual doesn't seem to match because it shows only 2 pins N/C
but the 3 in 1 has 4 pins not connected. Also, the physical layout of the pins
is not given. With my eyes, tracing the wiring back through the buffer chip to
the ACIA is a daunting task. Can anyone help? All I want to do is to make up an
RS232 cable for the beast and get it working.

Also, the manual says it needs a 12V at 300mA power source. 300mA?????? That is
one heck of a lot of current. Has anyone actually measured it? I have a couple
of 9V transformers here rated about 100mA and would be happy enough to build a
supply rather than pay Radio Shack their price for a supply (which is no longer
in the catalog anyway).

Any takers? I've got STERM ready and waiting to go, but need to sort this one
out.

#: 10422 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    23-Apr-91  22:43:30
Sb: #VED Extensions
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: all

I'm considering adding some more muscle my VED text editor by permiting it to
access extension modules. The plan is to have a command os9exec() to a user
supplied program which could do "whatever". VED would pass a number of params
to the user program, including the start and end of the text buffer and
pointers to a number of internal routines (the menu routines, etc.). The user
program could then access the text in memory and use the same interface to make
a very transparent extension. I suppose a possible extension could be a
spelling checker...but that's not important.

Questions:

1. Under systems with MMUs is the memory of the parent process available
   to the child?

2. Just what kind of params should be passed to the child? The params would
   be accessed via argc, argv[] routines since I plan to have extension
   just be a standard C program; no complicated subroutines, etc.

So, any suggestions or comments?
 o

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#: 10428 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    24-Apr-91  11:09:06
Sb: #10422-VED Extensions
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203

Just remember that if you're planning to use argc/argv that all of your
parameters probably should be ascii-fied, and that the arglist still needs to
be terminated with a CR (or the parsing routines will go to Mars).

Pete

#: 10423 S7/Telecommunications
    23-Apr-91  22:45:37
Sb: DeskMate 3 Download
Fm: Stephen Hamilton 71570,1546
To:  72756,2213

Dave, I read your file on downloading with DeskMate 3 but seem to still be
having trouble with it.  I usually use another term prog but my rs232 is not
working properly so I'm reduced to using the old standby, the Modem Pak. 
Anyway, I followed your directions, the screen says 'Xmodem Transmit Begun',
something like that, but nothing goes to the drive.  Any help would be
appreciated.
                                 Steve
                                   71570,1546

#: 10432 S15/Hot Topics
    24-Apr-91  11:49:06
Sb: #TC-9
Fm: Chris Perrault 75346,165
To: Frank Hogg/ 70310,317 (X)

Frank-I'm a COCO 3 user and am very interested in this TC-9 I've been hearing
so much about.PLease put me on your mailing list.


   Chris Perrault
   52 Chandler ST.
   Bradford,Ma 01835



CP

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#: 10452 S15/Hot Topics
    25-Apr-91  09:31:07
Sb: #10432-TC-9
Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663
To: Chris Perrault 75346,165

Chris,
 What have you heard about TC-9? Frank, if you see this, I'm interested too.

 Stephen Rex Goode
 3127 N.E. 59th
 Portland, Oregon   97213

#: 10441 S4/MIDI and Music
    24-Apr-91  22:29:48
Sb: latest SMF stuff
Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464
To: all


Be on the lookout for MFFCP.AR in Library #4 -- the latest complete package for
playing Standard MIDI Files under OS9/6809.

Two new programs:  MFF120 and MFPlay_mem.

New docs for MFF120, while the docs for MFPlay have been expanded to include
MFPlay_mem.

MFConv and MFPlay programs haven't needed updating but are included along with
original docs for MFConv for completeness.

Yep, now we can convert MFF1s to MFF0s!  And play 'em to boot!

--  Thx, Paul Seniura.



#: 10443 S1/General Interest
    24-Apr-91  22:55:17
Sb: the Fest
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
To: All

Well guys the waiting is almost over and my nerves are raw. The #$%@#$ fest is
once again upon us. I am as ready as I will be... which is to say I am 'not'
ready. However I will never be ready for these things, seems like a few extra
days would always help when in realality(sp?) it wouldn't. It's just like
money, time that is, no matter how much of it you have, you can always use
more.

We only have two booths at the show and that will not be enough to show all the

new goodies we will have. The TIGER will be the big hit of the show and to find

out about it you will have to go.

We will have a VERY special deal on the TC70 AT the show BUT if you call by
next Tuesday you can get it too.

I won't tell you what these are because my competition gets on here too. BUT
I'm sure that fellows that go to the show will post the info. If not you can
call Monday or Tuesday and we will tell you the deal.

I'll be back on after the show, have to get some sleep before the long drive in

the morning.

Hope to see you there.

Frank Hogg

#: 10446 S1/General Interest
    24-Apr-91  23:49:28
Sb: #Finance
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: All

Does anybody know of any financial calculator/amortization type programs in the
LIBS here?  I did a quick bro key:calculator in DL9 and the UG lib but didn't
turn up anything.

Anybody remember the formulae for calculating loan amortization?  I used to
have some cookbooks around, but can't find them anymore.

 Thanks,
        ....Jim

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#: 10454 S1/General Interest
    25-Apr-91  09:52:48
Sb: #10446-Finance
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153

Jim -

There's a reasonably good RPN calculator there (or it should be there). Much as
I hate real RPN calculators, I use it (and have ported it to both Unix and DOS)
for quickie calculations. Might also want to scan the UGLIB.

Pete

#: 10456 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    25-Apr-91  11:17:27
Sb: Trek.ar
Fm: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
To:  72307,3426

Does the game Trek require 512k to run? I get an out of memory error when I try
to load it. I thought that I followed all of your instructions when I put it
together. Any help would be appriciated.
                                         thanks
                                          Bruce




#: 10457 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    25-Apr-91  11:27:13
Sb: Humor
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: All


Here are few humorous tidbits taken from the Humor page in the May 1991
Enterprise Systems Journal (a mainframe-specific magazine.)  Folks here on the
OS-9 Forum may find them amusing, too.


         IF

  If you can touch it
  and you can see it,
       it's REAL.

  If you can touch it
  but you can't see it,
    it's TRANSPARENT.

  If you can't touch it
   but you can see it,
     it's VIRTUAL.

  If you can't touch it
  and you can't see it,
       it's GONE.


(Contributed by Larry Danver of Atascadero, Ca.)



 Real Men Write Self-Modifying Code.


(Contributed by John Cochrane of Doraville, Ga.)



 Never make anything simple and efficient,
   when it can be complex and wonderful.


(Contributed by John Cochrane of Doraville, Ga.)




#: 10458 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    25-Apr-91  11:51:39
Sb: #GONE!
Fm: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
To:  76703,2013 (X)

What happened to KRWIN.AR? It's listed in my lib. cat. for this DL, but I can't
seem to find it. It looks too good to miss!

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#: 10460 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    25-Apr-91  15:38:26
Sb: #10458-GONE!
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137

Sorry Bruce but it appears to have been purged from the Libs. Perhaps someone
reading has a copy they might upload. Anyone?

#: 10459 S4/MIDI and Music
    25-Apr-91  12:09:33
Sb: Bad Download
Fm: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
To: Lester Hands 70135,430

I'm a big fan of yours. I've only used your Musicbox program a couple of times
so far, but it looks great! I've done quite a bit on ORC, but my lack of a
multi-pak interface prohibits me from using that with disk, so your program was
the answer to a prayer. I am a serious musician, so your LYRA3.AR looked very
promising. My problem is that I can't get it to run. When I ident'ed the files,
I get a bad CRC on MUSIC.DAT . I used Mikeyterm to download. I have a 128k
coco3 with disk. I'm on a tight budget, so I am reluctant to download the whole
file again. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Bruce

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