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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      09/30/88 19:35  Msg:2425 Call:10005013  Lines:3
 20 Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom.
 21 Samuel Taylor Coleridge
 22 ************************************************************************
003=Usr:214 The Mysterious F  09/30/88 19:42  Msg:2426 Call:10005014  Lines:16
 23 -----------------------
 24 Oh, boy!  I get to be the first one.  Wowie zoobers, man.
 25  
 26 Signer, I realize that religion is an act of faith in many senses.  But
 27 I don't understand how someone can have faith in something without a
 28 great deal of evidence showing that it is true.  I happen to see evidence
 29 all around me that indicates that nothing intelligent but this stuff
 30 together.  When I think logically about things, I come to the same
 31 conclusion.  But I'm always open to evidence that I may have missed, or
 32 lines of reasoning that I haven't thought of.  I'll admit that it's 
 33 going to take one hell of an argument to get me to change my mind.  But
 34 if you have that argument, I'll listen to you.  (Even if you don't, I'll
 35 listen to you as long as you're reasonable.)
 36  
 37 Bill & Opus in 88!
 38 ----------------------- Fred?
004=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/30/88 20:31  Msg:2427 Call:10005015  Lines:25
 39 &*&*&*&*'s
 40 I think the problem is one of scale. I recently saw somebody give an example of
 41 a brocken watch in a dryer. It went to the effect that if you were to put a 
 42 brocken watch in a dryer and let it spin it would never again be whole. At 
 43 least after a few million years or so.
 44  
 45 While this is probably correct it fails to address the scale of the universe.
 46 For just a moment assume that without the shadow of a doubt we are the only 
 47 living intelagent life in the entire universe. Now, Given BILLIONS of years 
 48 the odds of Life emerging in the known universe suddenly become very good.
 49 The possibility of even intelagent life becomes very good. 
 50  
 51 Note that all this assumes that it is hard/nearly impossible for life to 
 52 emerge on a given planet. If it were in fact common there would be life 
 53 everywere.
 54  
 55 I am not saying that God does not exist, But I am saying that it does not
 56 take the existance of any sort of God to explain our being here.
 57  
 58 I to await the arival of more peaple at the Inn at the crossroads! (Come on in
 59 folks, There's plenty of room for all!)
 60  
 61 An Astral Dreamer.
 62 &*&*&*&*'s
 63  
005=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     10/01/88 00:04  Msg:2428 Call:10005023  Lines:11
 64 --------------------------->OK OK NOW<-----------------------------------------
 65  
 66 Let's not get into one of those Religious or Political discussions as it was
 67 bad enough last time! Start a story or something.! UUUUGH these messages about
 68 Anarchy are as boring as Religion....... What ever happened to those good 
 69 short stories people used to write 2 years ago??? EH? I'll bet your asking why
 70 don't I shut up and write one.  The prob is I don't have one quite yet. I'll
 71 be back..............Like who cares
 72 ------------->STIKKY<----------------------------------------------------------
 73  
 74 @ NUKE THE SMURFS & DRINK BEER @
006=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/01/88 01:23  Msg:2429 Call:10005025  Lines:13
 75 &*&*&*&*'s
 76 Ok, a short story. I'll work on it. Currently I seem to be suffering from 
 77 writters block. My last bought lasted 6 years. (Some peaple probably wish it
 78 had lasted forever.) hopefully this one will me shorter.
 79  
 80 Menwhile I am,
 81  
 82 The wanderer at the Inn.
 83  
 84 AKA
 85 An Astral Dreamer.
 86 &*&*&*&*'s
 87  
007=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  10/01/88 03:17  Msg:2430 Call:10005027  Lines:16
 88  
 89 {}
 90  
 91    Ok, how about apathy for a government?  I finally found the word
 92 that describes what I see.  And, I DIDN'T say ANARCHY, I said
 93 ANARCHISM.  ANARCHY is complete chaos and disorder.  ANARCHISM
 94 is simply the lack of a government.  Got it straight?
 95  
 96    * * *
 97  
 98    "Wonderer, where is everyone?  I guess we'll just have to
 99 summon them at an appropriate time...so what should we do?"
100  
101    Hagbard Celine
102  
103 {}
008=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/01/88 12:12  Msg:2431 Call:10005032  Lines:8
104  
105 Years ago I woke up with a start, sure my house was bugged.  Maybe it was
106 the eye contact in the mirror that startled me.
107  
108 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%What the h*ll ????!!+++++
109  
110 . . . it has been fascinating but a little scary
111  
009=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig     10/01/88 12:25  Msg:2432 Call:10005033  Lines:15
112 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | New Term Prog. Bear with Meeeeeeeeeeeeee
113  
114 H'lo agin. I agree with Hagbard. You people (and other things) need to
115 pay more attention.
116  
117 Personally, I prefer having fun to discusing political theory (it doesn't
118 make my brain hurt as much), so for now:......
119  
120      _   /:
121      \'o.O'
122      =(___)=
123        |U|
124        | |          Bill the Cat and Opus in '88!!!!!!!!!
125  
126 KKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Politics are best left in the back yarddddddd
010=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/01/88 12:54  Msg:2433 Call:10005034  Lines:11
127 &*&*&*&*'s
128 I like it Kurfur. Looks classy.
129  
130 Hagbard, I suppose a summoning might be in order. Hopefully the Inn will be 
131 filling up RSN though so IMHO we should wait a moment or two.
132  
133 Word Wrap?
134   
135 An Astral Dreamer.
136 &*&*&*&*'s
137  
011=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/01/88 16:05  Msg:2434 Call:10005036  Lines:23
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140@ 
141@sometimes I think maybe even my mind is too
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151  
152  
153 Since when are changes not allowed?????????????>???????
154 what a pisser
155  
156  
157 I'm in for some strong behavior modification and one of the first things to 
158 go should be this stupid bbsing.  
159  
160 I have been doing better lately . . . 
012=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL     10/01/88 18:26  Msg:2435 Call:10005041  Lines:7
161 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User twoeightythree, I guess#####
162 Hmmmm....  It appears that we have a problem here:  Some good 'ole users
163 bugging others with their conversation about pahlaticks.  hmmm..  I guess
164 I agree with politics being for the back yard.. and Bill And Opus in 88...
165       
166 Control C
167 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@#################################
013=Usr:603 tanya UUPC        10/01/88 20:17  Msg:2436 Call:10005045  Lines:3
168 well, well, look who is here, ( zap them all )
169 ---> a over cooked computer....HOT HOT....
170  
014=Usr:4 Milchar           10/01/88 20:23  Msg:2437 Call:10005046  Lines:5
171 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
172 A simple MilchLURK for those who know me... my other-world persona has
173 taken up responsibilities that occupy much of his time.  Seems I have missed
174 a disk or two, mayhap three....
175 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
015=Usr:577 George Raft       10/01/88 21:30  Msg:2438 Call:10005049  Lines:1
176 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
016=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     10/01/88 21:57  Msg:2439 Call:10005050  Lines:8
177 *-- it's 5:00 pm & I'm eating frozen pizza. Taste pretty good actually.  When
178 I always eat frozen pizza my lips stick to the pepporoni and then my lips have
179 to be surgically removed with a scalpul. Remember to vote for Fred Rogers in
180 88 cuz he's the most likely. Tom Peterson is also a highly recommended cand-
181 idiate.  Y'know why is their only one female smurf. well adios amigos , so
182 long..................$$--BLAH BLAH--$$(kinky sex makes the world go around--$$
183  
184  
017=Usr:113 James Of Cassand  10/01/88 22:57  Msg:2440 Call:10005051  Lines:19
185 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
186  
187      Everybody Listen!
188  
189      Your going to wake up tommorow and be nice to everybody you meet.
190  
191      They will be nice to you!
192  
193      The world will be a wonderfull place!
194  
195      If everybody does as I say all of the above is true!
196  
197      Is the above "True"
198  
199      I hope it is...
200  
201 James of Cassandra.
202 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++)))))
203  
018=Usr:577 George Raft       10/01/88 23:07  Msg:2441 Call:10005052  Lines:44
204 >..........>.........>........>.......>......>.....>....>...>..>.>Raft
205      "Those who live in a society must obey its laws, particularly
206 those laws whose purpose is to provide for the protection of its
207 citizens.  You have been charged and found guilty by a jury of your
208 peers of murder in the first degree... and a murder society finds
209 exceptionally heinous because it was committed against a potential
210 citizen with no knowledge or ability to defend against your
211 aggressions.  You are thereby remanded to the custody of the bailiff
212 and are to be incarcerated until such time as your execution can be
213 arranged.  Bailiff?  Court is adjourned."
214      "All rise..."  Chairs slide, feet scuffle, voices murmur, the
215 elderly judge rises and glides swiftly from the wood paneled room.
216      A woman sits in stunned silence at the defense table, her face
217 frozen.  She always knew intellectually that it might come to this,
218 but still she was emotionally unprepared for what had happened.
219      "Don't worry sweetheart, this isn't over yet," the slickness in a
220 Brooks Brothers suit whispers in her ear, a feral gleam in his eyes,
221 "we can wrap them up in appeals for years.  This is a test case, you
222 know.  They'll let it go all the way to the Supreme Court if
223 necessary.  What an opportunity!"
224      "Yes, what an opportunity," the woman responds in a quiet
225 monotone.  "I've always wanted to spend the rest of my life in court."
226      "Now look here you silly bimbo!  If you didn't want to wind up in
227 jail you shouldn't have used those damn birth conrol pills!  Since
228 the perfection of cloning the laws declaring a fertilized ovum to be
229 legally human, and thus possessing all the rights of any other
230 citizen, have been extended to any cell grouping with the right
231 genetic material.  By killing your ovum you committed murder in the
232 eyes of the law."  Mr. GQ raises his head to look down his nose.
233 "And in my eyes too, to tell you the truth.  If it weren't that this
234 case had so much potential for career advancement I would never have
235 taken it when I got the call from the Legal Aid office."
236      The bailiff, accompanied by the courthouse matron, forces the
237 woman to her feet, a hand on each elbow.  The woman makes no effort to
238 resist.
239      "Can I say one more thing to my lawyer before we go back?" the
240 woman asks quietly.
241      "Just be quick," the matron responds.
242      The woman leans forward until her face is only two feet from
243 her attorney's, makes an odd noise in the back of her throat, and
244 noisily deposits a load of phlegm on his face.
245      "There's a lot of genetic material in saliva too, creep!" she
246 screams as she is dragged from the room.
247 >..........>.........>........>.......>......>.....>....>...>..>.>Raft
019=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      10/03/88 00:52  Msg:2442 Call:10005086  Lines:5
248 ************************************************************
249 Woah, what a downer. The ultimate conservative view point.
250 Don't you just love men who think they have a right to tell
251 a woman what she can do with her body?
252 ************************************************************
020=Usr:539 Renee Holmes      10/03/88 06:23  Msg:2443 Call:10005088  Lines:4
253 ********************** October 3, 1988 *****************************
254 Right on!!!
255  -Renee-
256 ********************************************************************
021=Usr:71 David Shult       10/03/88 10:50  Msg:2444 Call:10005092  Lines:60
257 696969696969
258               Nomination for the "Ten Best Censored Stories of 1987"
259  
260           TUNING OUT NON-IONIZING RADIATION AND PUBLIC HEALTH/SAFETY HAZARDS
261  
262                Growing evidence that long wave non-ionizing radiation used in
263           electromagnetic devices, microwave products, and TV/radio systems is
264           harmful to the public's health, hazardous to effective public safety
265           systems, and threatening to military security went largely unreported
266           by America's media in 1987.  Also underreported were the related
267           issues of the Environmental Protection Agency's shut-down of its
268           funded programs to study non-ionizing radiation in light of a 1989
269           deadline to establish safety standards for public exposure to radio
270           frequencies, and, the lawsuit brought against the Reagan
271           administration by a coalition of plaintiffs who charge that the
272           administration has violated the National Enviromental Policy act by
273           not adequately protecting the public and environment from the "Hazard
274           of Electromagnetic Radiation to Ordnance" (HERO).
275                Studies that suggest links between electromagetic fields (such a
276           those produced by overhead power lines, broadcast towers, military
277           hardware, hairdryers, microwave ovens, computers, TV and two-way
278           radios, and radar), and cellular mutation, cancer, and childhood
279           leukemia have received little attention. University of North Carolina
280           epidemiologist David Savitz confirmed earlier reports about the
281           apparent public health hazard.  Savitz emphasized the need for furthe
282           research and more federal funding to determine the extent of this
283           potential health risk.  Fifteen of 17 occupational studies have
284           established links between exposure to low frequency electromagnetic
285           fields and cancer.  Despite this mounting evidence, the EPA shut down
286           its program to study non-ionizing radiation which is supposed to set
287           acceptable levels of exposure for humans and the environment by 1989.
288           Meanwhile, total federal funding to study the health effects of low
289           frequency fields has dropped from $10 million to just $2.5 million.
290                A coalition of Pentagon watchdog organizations and individuals
291           has brought suit against the government charging Reagan administratio
292           officials with willful negligence in protecting the public from the
293           HERO effect. Though the Navy and Army have been aware, for some 33
294           years, of the hazard that electromagnetism poses to weapon systems,
295           the Pentagon has acknowledged very little about the hazards that
296           accidental explosions caused by various electromagnetic sources pose
297           to public and environmental safety.  The plaintiffs cite five specifi
298           HERO related accidents, including the 1967 explosion on board the USS
299           Forrestal which claimed 134 lives, along with a possible 25 other HER
300           related accidents that have occurred over the past 25 k;years.
301                Finally, in a continuing conflict related to the issue of
302           electromagnetic radiation and its effects on public safety and health
303           radar specialist veterans have been filing health claims, related to
304           their exposrue to low frequency radiation, against the Veterans
305           Administration.  All claims to date have been rejected.
306                With such a newsworthy issue as the effects of electromagnetic
307           radiation on public health and safety so clearly being played out
308           during 1987, the news media, for the most part, failed to tune in.
309  
310                SOURCES:  KQED-TV 9, "EXPRESS," 12/9/87, "Radiation Risk?," by
311           David Helvarg; RECON, Vol. 10, #4, January 1988, "HERO: Deadly Game o
312           Roulette," by Patricia Axelrod, pp 1,2,8.
313  
314 696969696969696969
315  
316 ]
022=Usr:599 rich sichel       10/03/88 13:10  Msg:2445 Call:10005093  Lines:7
317 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
318 Ever wonder why David Helvarg didn't even hint at the most dangerous
319 radiation sources aimed intentionally to everyone of us?
320 I'm referring to police's radar gun. That blatant criminal and
321 injurious device is pointed at us everyday. But nobody ever squeaked
322 a pip.  Could David Helvarg a PIG (Police In Guise)?
323 777777777777777777777777777rich77777777777777777
023=Usr:562 Blank Doe         10/03/88 15:29  Msg:2446 Call:10005097  Lines:14
324 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>>
325 Voted #1 censored stories of 1983.
326  
327 The Government has once again manipulated the press.  In this case it was the 
328 neuclear exchange between the United States of America and the Union of the
329 Soviet Socilist Republic in October of 1983.  At approximately 2:30 am on the
330 mornig of Oct. 2nd  The USSR launched an all-out neuclear attack.  Upon 
331 the detection of the attack, the USA launched a counter offensive.
332   Both the USA and USSR were vaporized.  Both the governments of the US and USS
333 successfully stopeed the story from leaking to the news media.
334  
335 For world watch three, I'm blank doe
336 NW0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww3
337 ^b
024=Usr:71 David Shult       10/03/88 18:09  Msg:2447 Call:10005101  Lines:71
338 696969696969
339   With the release of a hostage today, and the charges that George Bush may be 
340 negotiating in the release...it certainly seems that history is trying to 
341 repeat itself:
342                                                             
343              Nomination for the "Ten Best Censored Stories of 1987"
344  
345              REAGAN'S 1980 "OCTOBER SURPRISE" -- ARMS FOR HOSTAGES
346  
347           In October 1980, nothing worried the Reagan campaign as much as
348      the possibility that the 52 hostages held by Iran might come home.
349      A "paramilitary wing" created by Reagan's campaign staff to prevent
350      such a possibility was largely unreported in 1987.
351           The revelations report that then campaign manager William J.
352      Casey headed an "October surprise" team engaging the services of both
353      retired and active military personnel.
354           During the course of the 1980 campaign, campaign leaders Richard
355      Allen, Edwin Meese, and Casey became concerned, almost to the point of
356      paranoia (according to journalists Jack Germond and Jules Witcover)
357      that Carter would get the hostages released thereby stealing away
358      Reagan's election momentum and assuring Carter of re-election.
359           Following is a brief overview of the reported activities of
360      Reagan's "October 1980 surprise" team:
361           Various reports reveal that Casey's "paramilitary wing"
362      monitored U.S. military movements for the Reagan campaign, met with
363      representatives of the Bani-Sadr government of Iran, and covertly
364      obtained President Carter's debate briefing materials prior to the
365      November election.
366           These revelations alone carry enormous constitutional
367      implications -- private citizens soliciting military and intelligence
368      assistance in monitoring U.S. government operations, private citizens
369      meeting with foreign dignitaries in possible state negotiations, and
370      private citizens clandestinely obtaining property of the United States
371      President -- and yet they were not followed up by the major media once
372      discovered and revealed in small, non-mass media publications.
373           Even more disturbing is the issue of Iranian arms shipments.
374      Documents confirm that within its first month, the Reagan
375      administration gave a green light to Israel to resume its arms
376      shipments to the Iranian government.
377           These revelations support former Iranian President Bani-Sadr's
378      assertion that the arms supply contract Iran signed with Israel in
379      March 1981, less than two months after Reagan's inauguration, was the
380      payoff for delaying the release of the American hostages until after
381      the November 4, 1980 election.
382           The hostages remained in captivity until January 20, 1981, the
383      day Reagan took the oath of office, and they left Teheran minutes
384      after he became president.
385           A conspiracy between a presidential candidate and a hostile
386      foreign power against an incumbent president would seem to be without
387      precedent in American history. At the very least, it would seem that
388      the documented charges revealed by a few journalists last year
389      deserved to be investigated for the benefit of the American public by
390      the U.S. media.
391  
392           SOURCES: L.A. WEEKLY, 7/10/87, "Reagan's 1980 Hostage Deal," by
393      Barbara Honegger with Jim Naureckas, pp 12, 14, 16; THE NATION,
394      6/20/87 (p 842), 7/4/87 (p 7), 8/1/87 (p 80), 10/24/87 (p 440),
395      11/21/87 (p 582), "Minority Report," all by Christopher Hitchens; S.F.
396      EXAMINER, 7/12/87, "October Surprise," by Warren Hinckle, p A-13.
397                                                                 
398 (Please listen to Jackson Browne's "Lives in the Balance" while reading the
399 above.  And remember that virtually all the currently held hostages are
400 current or "former" agents of US intelligence agencies.  The civilians had been
401 strenuously warned to stay out of the extreme danger areas they were kidnap-
402 ped in.  It is still an outrage that those that claim to represent the
403 "Christian" Ethic (Bush/Reagan/etc) are willing to play politics with other
404 people's lives.  Maybe we could trade Dan Quayle for a couple of them?)
405                                                          
406 696969696969696969
407  
408  
025=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL     10/03/88 18:46  Msg:2448 Call:10005102  Lines:4
409 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User twoeightythree!, I hope!#############
410 hey kurfur, is it some  odd ironicy that your user number is 69?
411   what exactly does tat symbolize?
412 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@################################
026=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      10/03/88 21:54  Msg:2449 Call:10005106  Lines:6
413 ***************************************************************************
414 Hey, I know, if a man "sins" (in the Christain ethic this would be fornicating
415 outside of wedlock) then he should have the equipment that commited the offense
416 cut off. That way he won't be able to commit the offense again. That sounds
417 to me like a good conservative solution to the problem.
418 **************************************************************************
027=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/04/88 00:09  Msg:2450 Call:10005111  Lines:22
419 &*&*&*&*'s
420 Well, I have NO problems with a women doing anything with her body she wishes.
421 I do howver have moral problems with allowing her to take the life of an 
422 unborn child. You don't get pregnant by sitting on dirty toilet seats.
423  
424 Now, I would also say that the man should be legally bound to the child as 
425 well. Put the Basterd in jail if he won't support his part of the 
426 responsibility.
427  
428 Don't mess around unless your prepared. If a man presures you and you don't
429 feel as if you want to, I (as a man) would say do what ever is neccasry to
430 discourage him. (Baseball bat, karate etc.)
431  
432 The only issue here is wether the unborn are humen. If they are then abortion
433 is murder. It's as simple as that.
434  
435 (Please don't flame me, I am sincere and really would like to here reasonable
436 arguments.)
437  
438 Thank you,
439 An Astral Dreamer.
440 &*&*&*&*'s
028=Usr:539 Renee Holmes      10/04/88 06:19  Msg:2451 Call:10005115  Lines:10
441 ***************************** September 4 **********************************
442 There are cases where I agree, abortion should not be used as a birth 
443 control.  But you cannot even imagine carrying something around inside you 
444 for nine months, that is the product of a rape.  Rape is cause for serious
445 counseling in and of itself, having to deliver a baby as a result of it, you
446 cannot even comprehend, I can't I haven't gone through it.  No, abortion
447 has to be a choice open to a woman, she is the one who will live with the 
448 decision.
449  -Renee-
450 *****************************************************************************
029=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     10/04/88 14:28  Msg:2452 Call:10005122  Lines:2
451 Fickt Euch Doch In Arsch!!!!(FEDIA)
452  
030=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       10/04/88 17:10  Msg:2453 Call:10005126  Lines:14
453 ----=-===-=-----------=-==========-=---------=-===========-=-----------=-===
454 Once again Renee, you must ask, is the child human?  To murder a human for 
455 the deed of its father...not something I'd like to see come into common
456 practice.  But then it is not so much a human as something with human 
457 potential (If you kill a catapiller have you killed a butterfly?).  I just
458 don't know what to think.  I've never thought of death as being so bad, but
459 only when delt with respectfuly, I hardly consider abortion respectful (It
460 is often so calous and uncareing).  I agree the woman needs the ability to
461 make a choice, but what of the potential human...
462  
463 Lord Beaker \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\__/
464              o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oo
465 7''abernaky-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y
466 -=-=-=--{=====-=------=---------=====-=--------=-=-=======--------======--=-
031=Usr:588 Wayne S.          10/04/88 17:38  Msg:2454 Call:10005127  Lines:23
467 ===================================================================
468  
469   I am a male who agrees with the viewpoint that abortion is "morally"
471 wrong.  But I do not believe there is enough evidence of when the human
472 fetus becomes a person to support all the mass hysteria that seems to
474 surround the subject (i.e. The Moral Right).  I choose now that my wife
475 not have an abortion even in the case of rape.  But I would not pretend
476 that nothing could possibly change my choice should I experience the rea-
477 lity of that situation, nor would I endeavor to pressure my wife to 
478 abide by my choice should she choose differently.  I suppose there is
479 some hypocrisy in that if the choice had to be made between the life of
480 an unborn baby and the life of my wife, I would not hesitate to choose
481 an abortion.  I believe this is not a question of morals that make or 
482 break civilization.  These are the morals that persons must decide for
483 themselves if they can live with their choice, and if they believe in a
484 God, can they consider their actions moral in the context of their reli-
485 gious beliefs.  Anyone else?
486  
487                           Signer
488  
489 =======================================================================
032=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     10/04/88 20:35  Msg:2455 Call:10005129  Lines:8
490 Good God shagy we've got a 'abortion' debte going on here? Why don't we
491 change the subject to Nuclear Arms Race? Or Teenagers using drugs? Or Green
492 house effect which is all going to kill us within the next century if nuclear
493 arms don't grab on to is first! C'mon people! This is not a board for debate!
494 At least I would assume not! Good nite & Good rittens! 
495 ///////////////////////?SCOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOO?////////////////////////////
496  
497 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWZY&Z(I learned that in 10th grade!) ->Moron!
033=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      10/04/88 21:34  Msg:2456 Call:10005132  Lines:35
498 ***************************************************************************
499 Who says BW is not a board for debate (or even tht it is a debatable boar
500 Debates have always been here. 
501 The problem with abortion is that it is such an emotional and thus religous
502 tied issue that it is essentially impossible for any consensous to be 
503 achieved. Myself, I recognise that there are many view points to life
504 and that my own view point is just that, my own. I do not try to demand that
505 the whole world should live the way I believe. On the same note I don't care
506 much for people who think they have a God given right to tell me what I
507 should or should not believe. 
508      Thus I don't feel that I or anyone else has any right to demand that 
509 a woman have or not have an abortion. that is a decision that only she can 
510 make based on her own beliefs. No one else has the right to presume that 
511 they can make a decision for her.
512    From a personal standpoint, if I had to make the decision, I would look
513 at it based on the situation. One thing to always remember is that the woman
514 can (with a few exceptions) concieve multiple times. Whereas her own life
515 is but once. In that regard I have absolutely no misgivings. The woman's
516 life is more important.
517      Then come the less certain areas, what about emotional stability and
518 quality of life? Should a woman be forced to bare a child that was unwanted
519 due to rape or other type circumstances? There are emense emotional wounds
520 that go with this. WOuld you forever destroy her life by demanding that she
521 carry full term something thatwill reminder her of this for the rest of
522 her life? I personally feel that no one has any right to demand that she
523 do something that will damage her either physically or emotionally.
524 And what of the child? think of the world of hatred and lonelyness that 
525 it would be forced into. It would be far better to wait for a time when the
526 mother is able to deal with it on a more emotionally stable position
527 (if at all). 
528    A persons sanity is as important as their life. What good is it to save
529 one life when you've destroyed another. The woman can conceive again when she
530 is physically and emotionally ready. Thus I lean in the direction that 
531 only the woman can make the decision.
532 **************************************************************************
034=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  10/05/88 01:22  Msg:2457 Call:10005136  Lines:100
533  
534 {}
535  
536    In my most Humble Opinion, I feel that abortion is an issue that should
537 be decided upon by the person it directly affects.  Who recieves the most
538 impact from an unwanted pregnancy?  The woman.  Who is the most vulnerable
539 in terms of economic, social, and physical standings?  The woman.  Who
540 does not directly come under the effects of the pregnancy?  The man.
541 Because our society is founded upon much of Old English values (don't
542 believe me?  Read your history again...), and those values carried a heavy
543 bias in favor of the male, the female involved will, by natural consequence
544 and logic, suffer.  It is not for men to decide the fate of women, for
545 the male body (and in the case of our society) and life(style) are
546 not directly implicated in a pregnancy.  Women should be given the
547 choice to allow or disallow abortions; I say this because we still
548 live in a male-dominated society.  I do NOT promote the feminist
549 movement; for that is a falacy; basically, fighting chauvanism with
550 chauvanism.  They have become just as bad as the people they fight
551 against; and their rhetoric is just as degrading as that of the
552 Male Chauvanist.  Because abortion is quickly becoming more of a
553 social issue, and society still has the male bias in it, I feel that
554 the issue comes to letting a (mature) woman decide if the pregnancy
555 is to be left or aborted.  Also, you can't say abortion is
556 'in toto' immoral.  Women FREQUENTLY and SPONTANEOUSLY abort
557 possible pregnancies, without their knowledge.  Spontaneous abortion
558 occurs about 25% to 50% of the time.  Otherwise, the pregnancy rate
559 in the 'United States' would be many many many many times higher.
560 The reason that this is a little-known fact comes from the sexual
561 values in 'America' today.  By scareing teens and young adults, and
562 through the careful use of partial information, the controling
563 portion of 'America' can hope to prevent teen pregnancies;
564   
565    Which brings us to another point;
566  
567    The root of abortion is found in the branch of American sexuality;
568 which, in turn, is found in Human Sexuality, which (finally) represents
569 the foundation of Human Life.  Want to eliminate abortions?  Increase
570 birth control.  I personally believe this because few belief systems
571 discourage birth control; and the ones that do, usually allow the
572 woman to prevent intercourse.  Any belief that does NOT allow a woman
573 to prevent intercouse invites rape.  And if that belief has values
574 against rape, well... don't through stones in glass houses (especially
575 AFTER you have move indoors) :)
576  
577    But I hope you 'see' my main thrust; that birth control presents
578 a viable answer to the abortion problem (for those who are against it
579 and for those who are for it).  Reguardless of the side you are on,
580 birth control represents an easy, understandable alternative.  If
581 your belief system does not promote birth control, then you don't
582 have to use it.  If you believe in birth control, then by all means,
583 use it.  If you're out in left feild (you can't make up your mind),
584 then simply abstain.  If you can't abstain, then you should re-evaluate
585 your beliefs - you have a MAJOR problem somewhere.
586  
587    But abortion will be (in my eyes), and always, a problem of
588 sexuality, and not a direct problem in itself.  Why do we try to
589 censor thoughts, deny birth control, and scare our young adults
590 when we should guide them, teach them, and let them understand the
591 meaning, consequences, and responsibilites of human sexuality.  Teen
592 pregnancy doesn't come from keeping knowledge like that from teenagers;
593 it comes from not fully understanding (note: I didn't say knowing) the
594 good and bad of human sexuality.  You might be suprised at the 
595 growing number of teenagers who can't comprehend the circumstances
596 of sex.  If they would have been taught from when they were
597 young up to the present, then they might be able to concieve of
598 the implications.  Instead, we:
599  
600    1) tell them 'the stork brings babies'.  A pile of bullsh*t.
601    2) tell them simply to 'not do it', without telling them what
602       to avoid in the first place.  This is misguidence (the
603       person recieving the message can not comprehend the
604       meaning of it; and they will simply go of to find out
605       for themselves)
606    3) harass them when they attempt to buy contraceptives, or
607       punish them if we find contraceptives in their room, etc...
608       This is equivilent to taking away a rabies shot from
609       someone who has been bit by an unknown dog.  If you're
610       lucky, you just might live...
611    4) make a feeble attempt to inform our young ones when their much
612       much much much too old.  Puberty truely marks sexual awakening,
613       but parents, teachers, etc. will hide information until many
614       many years later.  17-12 = 5 years without any truthful information.
615    5) expect (in some cases) for our children to discover sex and
616       desires on thier own.  Might as well feed them toxic waste
617       for a few years; then you decide to read the contents on the
618       box...
619  
620    I point my 'arguement' at teen-age sexuality because that teenagers
621 will be an adult in a few years.  And that adult will most likely become
622 a part of a society geared for and by, other adults that are older than
623 them.  The world belongs to our children, not us.  While they are not
624 immortal, they will be around loger than most of us.
625  
626    I did not mean to offend anyone, or to show disrespect.  This is
627 a private opinion that I have decided (much to my disagreement with
628 my
629 self) to share with you.  Enough of abortion debates!  A new disk
630 awaits us;  fill it with stories that you will, someday, tell
631 your children.
632    H. Celine, Humble Guru.
035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/05/88 03:43  Msg:2458 Call:10005137  Lines:28
633 &*&*&*&*'s
634 I have been impressed with the responses here. Thy confirm my high opinion
635 of the peaple who use this board.
636  
637 I would like to say that I fully agree with what Hagbard says in the area of
638 teenage sexuality and birth control. I wonder how many screwed up adults we
639 have running around now because they got bombarded with the "Sex is evil" 
640 type form of birth control.
641  
642 Sex is a neccasary bodily function. An enjoyable one no doubt, but in reallity
643 little differant from sleeping or eating.
644  
645 We cannot legislate morality. I do not support the Illegaliztion of abortion.
646 But I do feel it is my job to be as hounest as I can be when expressinf an 
647 opinion. The male dominance in this sociaty is definatly still prevalent, but
648 I do see many signs of improvment. Women are now showing up in growing 
649 numbers in fields were they have rarely been seen before. Given time I think
650 we will come to a fairly balanced role.
651  
652 Sorry about continuing this Hagbard, but I felt I had to make a closing s
653 statment. I'm trying to think of story material right now. 
654  
655 Hmm, how about the advenrure in the land of Unix? we could meet the Unix
656 wizards and decipher the cryptic comands of power. (rn,ls,vi etc.)
657  
658 :-)
659 An Astral Dreamer.
660 &*&*&*&*'s
036=Usr:590 joe g             10/05/88 17:46  Msg:2459 Call:10005148  Lines:14
661 this is the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is 
662 the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the test
663  
664  
665 this is getting MUCH too serious.Has anyone seen any good movies lately?
666 I saw "A FISH CALLED WANDA" and thought it was outrageously funny. I've
667 heard you should stay away from the new Jeff Goldbloom movie,possibly
668 the worst all year. Anyway, you'll probably all go back to politics and
669 religon right after this lighthearted interlude. It seems like a little 
670 person just can't make a difference in this big world anymore.
671  
672  
673 this is the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the 
674 test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the test
037=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig     10/05/88 22:06  Msg:2460 Call:10005156  Lines:29
675 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Back with some (wrong) answerssssssssssssssss
676  
677 H'lo, yes it's me again. Try to sound enthusiastic amid the bored yawns
678 ok?
679  
680 When it comes to abortion and unwanted pregnancy, I will take the 
681 normal Berserker's Viewpoint:
682  
683 Who Cares? 
684  
685 Seriously, though, I don't intend to cause an unwanted pregnancy, nor
686 do I seem likely to be so in the future. Therefore, I think that It 
687 really has no0bearing on my life, and, being so, "Who Cares?" What I do
688 not like are people who are not involved in the issue trying to impose
689 their own morals upon other people whos situation has nothing to do
690 with them. This goes to both sides. Whatever you do is your own right
691 as long as it affects no-one else (or nothing else). Whether a fetus is
692 someone or not, I cannot tell, and therefore, my opinion accounts for 
693 very little. Radicalism in any way is not a good thing.
694  
695 Qs d my # being 69, you will probably notice that I (or should that be
696 'we') am also #70. Don't ask why, I don't know.
697  
698 Roses are Red,
699 Violets are Blue,
700 I'm schizophrenic,
701 and so am I.
702  
703 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Ca~ you read this?????????????????????????
038=Usr:47 John Dilks        10/05/88 22:31  Msg:2461 Call:10005158  Lines:7
704 ----------------------------------------------------------------
705 And now, for an opposing view point.
706 Any woman who even :dhinks* of having an abortion
707 should be Shot! Also remember that if it wasn't
708 for us males you women wouldn't even be here.
709 John -
710 ----------------------------------------------------
039=Usr:562 Blank Doe         10/05/88 22:43  ]cg:2$62 Call:10005159  Lines:29
711 This Is World Watch Three>>>>>>>>>>
712  
713 >Any woman who even *thinks* of having an  abortion should be shot!
714 It is my not so humble opinion that the above comment was made out of 
715 ignorance.  First, leds lok at the logic in volved.  I shall assume that th 
716 person 'John' considders the fetus is a living being.  Ofcourse every living 
717 being should be allowed to live, hence he is against abortion.  He is so 
718 against abortin, he would have thu wo}an shot who '*thinks* of having an 
719 abortion' shot.  Damn sound logic to me!  NOT ONLY WOULD THE WOMAN DIE, BUT SO
720 WOULD THE UNBORN CHILD!  Good God man, THINK!!!
721 Second, it sounds to me as tho' 'John' would have people conditioned to thin{ 
722 his way lest they be killed.  Sounds like a superiority complex to me.
723  
724 >Also remember that if it wasn't for us males you women wouldn't even be here.
725 Well, a statment like thit, even 'John' could see the redundancy in it!  It's0
72& so circular it's funny.  Yes, it would be dificult for women to be here, but it
727 wouldn't be to easy for us men to be here either!  Again, Mister, THINK!
728 Here at Network 0 we have a moto for people, for comments like these:
729            F0L A0M E  O N ! !
730  
731 For World Watch Three, I'm blank doe hoping all people, alover the multiverse 
732 will join to geter to fight the desease of stupidity and ignorance.
733 Thank you  for your time.
734 NW0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww3
'35  
736 The blank doe show has bean brought to yu by Smirf Wafers.  Yes, those little 
737 blue disks that taste so good with mead.
738 And if you like our Smirf Wafers, then you'll flip for our Smirf Bars!
739 (yes, I know I spelt it 'Smirf'.)
040=Ucr:4)8 Hagbard Celine ,  10/06/88 00:21  Msg:2463 Call:10005163  Lines:74
740  
741 {}
742  
743    Once again I percieve why I prefer typing onto a disk a bunch of
744 words over other fun activities: Astral Dreamer is right; the majority
745 of pe`le on Backwater are of high caliber and broad knowledge.  Maybe
746 that's why everyone feels at home here - I know, I know, my ego is
747 inflateing along with everyone else, but I think this to be true.
748 Unfortuneately, my spelling is deterioratinw alng with it.
749  
750    * * *
751  
752    Kurfur seemingly was not interested in the free mead & ale, so
753 I sent him another stein, in hopes that he might take the bait again.
754  
755    Wonderer, excuse me for a moment;
756  
757    I0ope~ed the All-Seeing Eye.  A premutation (yes, PREMUTATION, ya
758 know, the mathematical meaning) came to me; it involved an earlier
759 idea; The Eye closed and I was returned to the Inn at the Crossroads...
760  
761    "Now!  Now is the time!"
7&2 0
763    The barkeep seemed a little upset with the idea.  A quick
764 telepathic metaphor calmed him.  He would be better off, with
765 what I had planned for his Inn.  I asked for the barkeep's
766 name. "Joe Tesseract Infinity", he replied.  "You can call me
767 JT for short."  Fine, I replied.
768  
769    "Wonderer, please isolate your being for a short while.  I'm
770 going to be doing some Inter-Dimensional work"
771  
772    The Eye opened again.  The Inn was surrounded, then sealed, in
7'3 a gravity bubble.  I felt the weight, the age, of the Inn.  Eternity
774 was slightly older than this place of rest and cheer.  Even after
775 enlightenment, I still held the thought in awe; but I had to push that
776 aside, for I could not hold it forever.  I opened a larger sphere in
777 my private Beta Space;  then, I place the gravity bubble inside the
778 sphere;  and finally, I re-synced the time flow, making the Beta
779 sphere shrink around the physical dimensions of the Inn.  And,
7800as qn added touch, a cyclitic wavelength generator was diffused
781 throughout the atmosphere of the Inn (read: a light source that
782 simulated day and night.)  This left some ecology adjustments
783 to allow for water, oxygen re-cycling, and an interface for
784 Beta Space (the gravity bubble would let light in and out, but
785 you couldn't pass through it).  A few trees here and there, a
786 lawn over most of the dusty road, and an arch acting as the
787 portal made the New Inn complete.
788  
789 0  The eye closed.
790  
791    Five seconds had passed.  My 'body' felt weak and non-material.
792 It seemed difficult, so I opted to float in the lotus possition
793 out of fatigue.
794  
795    "The arch outside will take you where you please.0 You simply
796 think of your destination, step through, and an arch on the other
797 side will appear with you stepping out.  To get into the Inn's
798 reality, you can either teleport, meditate, or think of the Inn
799 and walk through a normal, no~-mawical arch.  The size is such
800 as to allow for physical transportation devices, up to a
801 2895 Nova Tank (roughly the width of 3 1/2 school busses).  Any
802 being with a hostile intent for the inhabitents of the Inn will
803 simply be returnet to dhe point of origin; that is, they can'y
804 come through, and they'll just pop back into their own reality
805 right after the time they left.  But this has cost me
806 energy and thought;  I must rest, until the start of the new
807 disk.  By the~, I0should be well enough to make modifications
808 as needed.  Please, ask everyone for advice on the new location
809 of the Inn."
810  
811    H. Celine, very tired Guru.  Fill the disk, please.
812  
813 {}
041=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON     10/06/(8 14:22  Msg:2464 Call:10005170  Lines:18
814 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
815  
816 Hey Shagy gives ya somethin' to think about? I want a scooby snack! NOW!
817 ----------------------------------------=---=----------------------------------
818 How many people actually read that information that person wrote!? I skipped
819 a couple lines .... sorry!
820 Please next disk let's start a new debate.  Abortion & Politics is getting
821 kind of old. I have nodhing againts debates. IN fact they can be fun but once
822 they get into touchy situations like Politics & Abortion where everyone has
823 their own detailed opinion.... but hey that's what debating is all about right?
824 OH well enough said... I'} tbying to fill the disk space! But i don't know
825 what to say. Speaking of debates. Any one catch the VP debate? I sure missed
826 out on that one! Thank God!------------------/STIKKY/-+=+-+=+-+=_==_+_+_++__+
827  
828 DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMERFS,0DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO
829 SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS!!!!
830  
831 Question of the month: HOW DO SMURFS REPRODUCE?!!!!!!!!!
042=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig     10/06/88 20:32  Msg:2465 Sall:!0005178  Lines:14
832 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | How can one oppose complacency???????????????
833  
834 How do Smurfs Reproduce? Do you really want to know?
835  
836  
837 "Do I smell Mead?" I asked, as I entered the main bar room. "By the way, 
(38 there's a rather large temporal skew outside the door. Is this place under
839 construction or something?" And to the bartender, "Large Mead, and a box
840 of Smurf Mushroom Houses, preferably with the Smurfs pre-cooked inside, and
841 don't loo{ ad0me like that, thank you."
842   The Inkeeper went away muttering something about restocking. I was back,
843 or had I even left? No matter. "When are we?"
844  
845 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Wassup? (besides the sky))))))))))))))))))))
043=Usr:"14 Txe Mysterious F  10/06/88 21:05  Msg:2466 Call:10005179  Lines:30
846  
847 Now, for a different viewpoint.  I'm female.  That probably puts me i
848 the minority on here, and gives me a semi-unique perspective.  For
849 unique perspective number tgo,0I've had an abortion.  One.  I wouldn't
850 do it again, but I don't regret what I did.
851  
852 If you've never been facing an unwanted pregnancy, you have no idea what
853 it is like to go to the doctor's office and have your worst fears 
854 sonfibmed.  Suddenly your future is in pieces.  But, but, but ... I have
855 to finish school.  I've got my whole career ahead of me.  How am I going
856 to be able to do all of this and give a baby a good life?  I don't
857 have any money.  I can't afford d have a baby.  I'll wind up another
858 welfare mother living in a slum.  That isn't fair to a child.
859  
860 I don't advocate abortion as a method of birth control.  But accidents
861 do happen.  That's how I became pregnant.  I also don't beliuve yn late
862 (> first trimester) abortions.  But had I not had that choice available
863 to me, I don't know what I would have done.  I certainly don't think I
864 could have raised an unwanted child in the manner he would deserve.
865  
866 When Y was at the clinic, I met women who were having their third or
867 fourth abortion.  That's ridiculous, and entirely uncalled for.  If
868 somebody can't figure out how not to get pregnant repeatedly, they're
869 too dumb to have reproductive organs.  8No flames, I don't REALLY mean
870 that.  They SHOULD be given a mandatory contraceptive-education class
871 after number two, if not number one.)  But I don't think that any
872 of the religious-wacko moral-majority types have the right to tell any
8'3 person that they can't have an early abortion.  It's none of their 
874 business.
875  
044=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  10/06/88 22:56  Msg:2467 Call:10005181  Lines:70
876 {}
877  
878    "Kurfur, welcome to Beta Space!"
879  
880    He seemed a lyttlu puzzled as to what Beta Space was.
881  
882    "Beta Space is akin to Hyper Space, but it is not a unique dimension.
883 Beta Space is my own private dimension that I created for myself.  Time
884 flows very slowly through Beta Space - which is0ghy0dhe temporal flow is
885 skewed around the Gravity Bubble.  As time meets this reality, it must be
886 adjusted for physical dimensions.  Otherwise, the stein you're drinking
887 would be the size of a car, but you would be the same size.  The
8880gravity bubble WARPS time, making time 'speed up' inside the bubble to
889 match physical surrounds from a different dimension.  The closer you
890 are to the bubble (from the outside), the more temporal skew you will
891 feel.  Which reminds me - I neet to0make a wormhole, so visitors will
892 not feel like they're on a bad airplane ride when they pass through the
893 gates.  The wormhole might distort your vision for a moment, but the
894 physical properties would only gradually change.  It's inhabitablu,
895 but yes, it is still under construction."
896  
897    "JT, could you check your cooler... I've made some modifications
898 to allow for a larger audience."  JT, tired, hurried, stressed,
899 angry, and bothered by the new regulars, smiled0for0dhe first time
900 since we all met at the Inn.  For once, these strange people had done
901 something wonderful for him; if, after climbing down from a 6 foot
902 stein, mopping the floor whenever the police arrived, and quiet,
903 floating men i~ robes had startled him, he had ever had enough,
904 then the relocation of the Inn was it.  But, he understood,
905 for a moment, how he played a major role in the afairs of the
906 multiverses;
907  
908    and then the thought passed from his mind+
9 9  
910       and he was unconcered, and upset, the same as before.  JT
911 went back to the cooler for two steins of mead; one for Kurfur,
912 and one I had just ordered on-the-spot.  Wonderer seemed to
913 be thristy, also, so I yelled for another meqd on my 'tab'.
914  
915    "Say, maybe we could do away with money - if we could figure out
916 how to make resources self-replenishing at the Inn.  This would
917 make the Inn a welcome place for newcomers, who have little money
918 and are tired vbom travel.  To borrow a phrase from a civil
919 revolutionary, 'I have a dream'.  The Inn would be a place of
920 good food and drink, with personalized rooms to accomodate its
921 regular patrons, and a place of safety.  Any ideas?  Opinions?
922 Comments?"
923  
924    Hagbard Celine, off to NAG BBS... have a nice evening.
925  
926    P.S.  I will be on 'vacation' from Saturday Night to
927       Monday Night.  Keep me posted about action on the
928       board, please!  (My Significant Odxer }isses me just
929       as much as I miss her!)
930  
931 {}
932  
933    Oops - forgot to say:
934  
935    "Filleth thy disk with humour and goode thoughte, ye, seek not
936 to indulge in bashing thy name with four-letter words, nor ye seek
9370to dishonor thy name by useage of thy border.  Tommorrowe is comeing
938 through the Most Mightie and Honorable *New Disk*; and it is said
939 that it shoulde be filled withe more humour and goode thoughte."
940  
941    This ad brought to you by0iour resident Guru and mush-mind.
942  
943    H. Celine
944  
945 {}
045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/07/88 01:48  Msg:2468 Call:10005187  Lines:19
946 &*&*&*&*'s
947 Good day Hagbard!
948  
949 I had wondered what changes you had in mind. All in0all I think it is an 
950 improvment. The old place was somewhat hard to find at times.
951  
952 I have taried to long in this place. I must live up to my name now and travel
953 on. I will return soon and tell you all of my adventures. 
954  
955 C saying I walked from the Inn and into the Portal. "To the home of the Tahan
956 Monks, I have need of good humor after the stresses of late."
957  
958 And so the journey began.
959  
960 An Astral Dreamer.
961 &*&*&*&*'s
962  
963 Why do Smurfs reprduce?
964  
046=Usr:539 Renee Holmes      10/07/88 06:35  Msg:2469 Call:10005188  Lines:9
965 ***************************** October 7, 1988 **************************
966 35 lines to go to finish the disk, if only I were a prolific writer.
967 I0guesc Smurfs reproduce to make little Smurfs.  Obviously the one female 
968 Smurf is a very happy (but tired) Smurf.
969 Bye....
970  -Renee-
971 ************************************************************************
972  
973  
047=Usr:507 todd bogebs       10/07/88 11:38  Msg:2470 Call:10005233  Lines:3
974 ------- Baby Smurfs are delivered by stork
975 ------- once in a blue moon.
976  
048=Usr:483 Lord Beaker       10/07/88 14:48  Msg:2471 Call:10005234  Lines:23
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978 It was a dark and stormy night.  The moon was full but you couldn't see it
979 through the clouds.  Thick dark clouds.  I stood beneath a moderatly large 
980 oak tree.  Staring down the hill. 0Staring at her...
981  
982 She got into the car, it was a 64 chevy convertable with the top up.  The
983 puddles in the road deepened...each it's own churning pond of primordial 
984 soup.  After the third try, her engine started.  She waited in the0car>  She
985 honked the horn, twice.  Then he came out of the house. 
986  
987 It was him...my antithesis!  I had finnaly caught up with him.  Of all the
988 places to find him, it finnaly happened here.  In New Jersey.  I remember 
989 that first ~ight, back in Boise, when I was younger - young enough to still
990 be able to recognize the dark inuendoes of his crimminal peersonality.  The 
991 sinistar shadows under the eyebrows, the perpetual sneer, and the uzi like
992 buldge under the trench-cat.0 He was younger too.  And handsom enough to 
993 call her attention to him from across the crowded room.  That was before I
994 had seen her.  That was the night when my life changed.
995  
996 Wait, whats that?  The clouds have broken.  What a bright light...different 
997 colors, a bright beam.  AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
998 Lord Beaker \__/   We apologize for the inconvenience.
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