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90201 4-OCT 19:18  OSK Applications
     RE: Ghostscript (Re: Msg 90161)
     From: JOHNREED     To: MRGOOD

 > Unfortunately, the MM1 is my only computer.  I can't take my Stylus 300
 > to work....
 >
 > BTW, lines.ps messes up the same way that chess.ps does.  I get about an
 > inch of good printout, then I get a mess  :-).  I guess I'll have to
 > try a shorter cable.  How long is the one you use?
 >
 > Hugo
 >
I have two 6-foot cables (that's the shortest I have seen).  The
one that works came from a local discount store ("Office MAX") and
cost about $6.95.  (The one that won't work cost about $10 - go
figure).

This printer cable business drove me NUTS for a while -- at one time
I had the DeskJet and the EPSON connected via two serial switching
boxes to both computers, so I could switch either computer to either
printer (Cables all over the desk) and everything seemed to work.

Then I started having trouble with the Ghostscript --> Epson output.
I hunted for bugs in the driver for some time, and then fed the
output file from Ghostscript to the EPSON from the "386" - and
it worked.  Thats when I started swapping cables and found only
one that would let me feed the file from the MM/1 directly to the
EPSON.  ((all this time, text files were ok -- just the binary
printer files were screwed up)).  I thought maybe I was getting a
weak signal from the MM/1 -- maybe just not quite enough for the
EPSON -- so I borrowed one of those "printer selector" boxes for
a test -- I figured it's buffer would help -- nope.  The short
(cheap) cable is the only thing that works.  It must be something
involving timing -- something is just barely within the limit, and
any stray inductance/capacitance in the cable pushes it past the
edge of the "gate".

Funny, the mouse that works best with my MM/1 came in a plain
white box -- just said "MOUSE" - cost $9.95.  This computer wants
plain peripherials - no fancy stuff please.

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       A stitch in time --------------------
               ------ is worth two in the bush

 John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>

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90222 5-OCT 23:09  OSK Applications
     RE: Ghostscript (Re: Msg 90201)
     From: WA2EGP       To: JOHNREED (NR)

Strangly enough, I have two types of parallel printer cables here.  Seems the
older type are wired differently on a few lines.  They don't work on PCs
either.  I have a 6 footer that works on my MM/1 but I haven't had the time
(or the guts <g>) to send anything to the printer using ghostscript...yet.
Will let you know how it works out.  IF anything fails, it will fail on my
system (grin).

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90202 4-OCT 19:18  OSK Applications
     RE: Ghostscript (Re: Msg 90145)
     From: JOHNREED     To: JEJONES

 >  > Is it only
 >  > tabc and lf that I have to zero out?
 >
 > That's all that I've had to do--after all, the other fields control the
 > processing of characters *input* from the SCF device, not of *output*.
 >

Right, of course.  My "zerop" script is overkill -- tab and linefeed
were the troublemakers.  I just keep zeroing everything out of habit.

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       A stitch in time --------------------
               ------ is worth two in the bush

 John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>

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90203 4-OCT 19:19  OSK Applications
     RE: Ghostscript (Re: Msg 90166)
     From: JOHNREED     To: DIGIGRADE

 >     I'm currently wrighting an ESCp2 thingy that will let you type
 > 'escp2 wide >/p' and it will send the code to the printer. I'm getting the
 > codes from the owner's manual. Are there any codes I'm missing? Like real
 > DTP functions or text handling? (I plan to later write a WYSIWYG DTP
program
 > that uses ESCp2. I have an AP3250 (a damn fine dot matrix printer don't you


If your manual is like the one that came with my printer, all the
commands are there, just a little weak on explanations.  The reference
manual has lots of programming examples.  My reference manual is
a 1991 edition, and the AP3250 is not there -- newer.
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       A stitch in time --------------------
               ------ is worth two in the bush

 John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>

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90204 4-OCT 19:19  OSK Applications
     RE: Ghostscript (Re: Msg 90162)
     From: JOHNREED     To: JRUPPEL

 > If I have any questions, I will be in touch! Enjoy the great frozen north!
 > The U.P. is one of my favorite places on the planet...especially the
 >  Keeweenau  Penninsula. Have a great trip! TTYL

We did! Nice weather - clear and cool.  Wanted to stay up there, but
the Michigan Lottery failed me again, so I had to come back to
Saginaw and go to work.
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       A stitch in time --------------------
               ------ is worth two in the bush

 John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>

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90206 4-OCT 20:04  OSK Applications
     RE: Ghostscript (Re: Msg 90204)
     From: JRUPPEL      To: JOHNREED (NR)

$5 Wednesdays and Saturdays for years uncounted....hitting the Lotto jackpot
is about 1000 less likely than getting hit by lightning <G>

John Ruppel
CocoNuts in Lansing

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90205 4-OCT 19:19  OSK Applications
     RE: New Tex Upload (Re: Msg 90172)
     From: JOHNREED     To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR)

 > ...........  Anything
 > else you'd like to see in there?

Whew! - Quite an upload that will be.  I can't think of anything
else to ask for.
 >
 > P.S.  Glad to know the `big' versions work okay.  I can't
 > run them on my 3meg machine, so I basically just crossed
 > my fingers on those.  I've been compiling differently-sized
 > TeX versions for a long time now, so I was pretty confident
 > it would work, but nice to have that confirmed.
 >
I finally got the docs for the gcc lib ver 1.08 (600+ pages) to
run.  Haven't printed them except for test prints of a few
selected pages  -- maybe a booklet (GRIN)..

Now I plan to play with the LaTeX output of GNUPLOT some more -- it
would cause TeX to run out of memory on detailed plots before.
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       A stitch in time --------------------
               ------ is worth two in the bush

 John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>

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90207 4-OCT 20:13  General Information
     RE: Shell+ 2.2a bug (Re: Msg 90182)
     From: JWILKERSON   To: DENNYWRIGHT

   All I can say is that it sure was not.


Seeya
Seeya
          -- John

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90208 4-OCT 20:16  General Information
     Multivue apps.
     From: JWILKERSON   To: ALL

    Is there a way to make Multivue work with apps that need input from the
keyboard as part of the command to work...

Say use the program AR..... it requires the files to use when running.... What
would need to be done to run it?

sort of a prompt for input and the options and such......

Any help?

Seeya
          -- John

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90214 4-OCT 23:35  General Information
     RE: Multivue apps. (Re: Msg 90208)
     From: WDTV5        To: JWILKERSON

I've not fooled with it for quite a while, but as I recall, a ? on the
second line of the xxx.AIF file will cause gshell to open a window and
ask you for "parameters", eg the arguments you would normally enter on
the command line. Hope this is right, and helps.
Cheers John, Gene

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90219 5-OCT 09:22  General Information
     RE: Multivue apps. (Re: Msg 90214)
     From: JWILKERSON   To: WDTV5

   Ok... thanks.... I will give that a try.

Seeya
          -- John

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90221 5-OCT 20:47  General Information
     RE: Multivue apps. (Re: Msg 90208)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: JWILKERSON (NR)

 > Is there a way to make Multivue work with apps that need input from
 > the keyboard as part of the command to work...
 >
 > Say use the program AR..... it requires the files to use when running....
 > What would need to be done to run it?
 >
 > sort of a prompt for input and the options and such......
 >
 > Any help?

GShell+.

In case you may not know, GShell+ is the standard MultiVue graphics shell,
gshell, which has been patched with the "GShell Plus" patch (patch available
here in the Delphi libs).

Once you are running GShell+, just put a ? in line 2 of the AIF. Then, when
you click on the icon, before the app is launched, GShell+ opens up a little
overlay window which prompts "Parameters?". Whatever you enter will be
supplied to the app as standard "command line options".


 ------------------------------------
  Zack C Sessions

     If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.


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90209 4-OCT 20:46  General Information
     OS-9 Late Night:recap
     From: CPERRAULT    To: ALL

        Last night we had the 'Atlanta Fest Fallout!', and what a good
   LOOONG conference it was. As a matter of fact, for the first time, I
   was not the last person there. I don't know how late it went.
   Unfortunately, I suffered a couple crashes/freezups through the course
   of the night which really screwed me up a lot. We won't have the
   transcript, because somehow my capture buffer was lost in the
   commotion(I went to edit it just a minute ago, and I entered Ved to
   find, yes the file was there, but empty :-( ). It's too bad because a
   lot of interesting stuff was discussed.
        Thanks to Ken Scales and Colin McKay who took time out(AGAIN!) to
   show up online and answer fest related questions, since they had
   attended. We who didn't go, found that vendors did reasonably well,
   while attendance was down again just a bit. Perhaps we can help(maybe
   through the UG)  to better promote the next one. I didn't get to do
   the conference on it till about a week beforehand, since I didn't have
   much time, considering I started not too long ago doing this. Also I
   think the fact that both the MOTD and OS-9 Underground suffered
   serious delays in getting issues out, contributed quite a bit to the
   attendance shortage. They didn't say attendance was bad, just less
   than previous shows, but hopefully that trend won't continue.
        Anyway, a lot of interesting stuff was talked about such as CD-
   I's future potential, and Boisy's presentation, which I hear was
   great. They also discussed the 68301(is that right?) board shown by
   Kevin Pease and I'm afraid I forget the name of the other person. It
   sounded very interesting, but I'll let someone more informed go into
   detail for those who are interested. Check out the upcoming issues of
   the OS-9 Underground and other magazines which will undoubtably cover
   it in some form.
        New software was also released which is one trend I'm really
   starting to like! :-)
        I hope everyone had a good time at the fest, and hope to
   personally make it to one in the next year. Sorry 'bout the lack of
   transcript this time. I wish there was something I could do about that
   :-(

        Stop in next Monday night at 10:00 pm est. Farna System's will be
   onhand to discuss 'The world of 68k Micros' and his growing line of
   Hardware and software, including the Ken-Ton SCSI system! Keep an eye
   out for this months(late! sorry) schedual.

        See Ya
        >Chris<

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90210 4-OCT 20:46  Applications (6809)
     Shellplus Path command
     From: CPERRAULT    To: ALL

        I included the command 'path=/dd/cmds' in my startup file, and
   for some reason the system doesn't read this. When I later type Path=?
   to see what paths are specified, it is blank. Am I supposed to enter
   the command another way in startup?
        Ever since I found out that with shellplus, we have a Path
   command just like the dossers, I fell in love. This is very important
   for especially with the two paths(chx chd) to manage instead of one.
   If I enter it on the command line, it usually works out fine, but not
   from startup.

        >Chris<

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90215 4-OCT 23:51  Applications (6809)
     RE: Shellplus Path command (Re: Msg 90210)
     From: MITHELEN     To: CPERRAULT

The problem is, the startup file is ran from it's own shell, and then
when it finishes, a new shell is started by cc3go, and this is the shell
you en up as your "console" shell. There is a version of cc3go in the
database that allows you to set up a /dd/SYS/shell.parameters file, which
it will use when it starts up the console shell. This is what you need to
do to get the "path" variable passed to the console shell...
--
Paul

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End of Thread.

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90211 4-OCT 20:46  Telecom (6809)
     Supercomm
     From: CPERRAULT    To: RANDYKWILSON

        Randy, in Supercomm I have my default data directory set as
   /dd/com. The problem is when I go to download, let's say messages, I
   will want to capture them to the MESG directory in /dd/com. So at the
   download filename prompt, I give the path 'Mesg/os9for.txt' but then
   supercomm returns a 216 error. In order for it to work I have to re-
   enter the default directory path again, even tho it's the same thing.
   The first couple times I noticed this, I just saved the supercomm
   defaults with alt-u, but it still doesn't read correctly.
        It worked back when I had a different data directory, but since I
   changed it it hasn't worked, but I haven't done anything else
   different. Have you had this problem before?

        >Chris<

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90217 5-OCT 02:04  Telecom (6809)
     RE: Supercomm (Re: Msg 90211)
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: CPERRAULT

Make sure that your default dir is "/dd/com". Having just "com" can cause
the errors you are seeing. Other than that... dunno. Everything worked here
in my quickie testing.

   Randy

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90212 4-OCT 23:25  Programmers Den
     rbfed33
     From: WDTV5        To: ALL

Hi all, I've just uploaded 2 items to chestnut.cs.wisc.edu - a new rbf
edition 33 for nitros9 users only, contains a patch for ed 28 that is
art-
icular would be interested. The bug that messes with deletes when you are
useing clusters on your disks of more tna 1 sector IS WHUPPED. tna s/b than.
The other item is cprep19.lzh which needs more wider distribution, I see
the very buggy version 18 is the only one there. 19 fixed a lot of crash
coding.
Cheers, Gene Heskett, WDTV5@delphi.com

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90213 4-OCT 23:32  Programmers Den
     RE: rbfed33 (Re: Msg 90212)
     From: WDTV5        To: WDTV5

Humm, a line got smashed as usual, when are we gonna get a real editor?
The misssing line refers to Mike Guzzi and his multiple sector clusters,
he in particular would like this one. It fixes the delete function for
him. FTP to chestnut.cs.wisc.edu, cd to "incoming" and grab rbf28to33.lzh.
Cheers all, Gene

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End of Thread.

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90216 5-OCT 00:46  General Information
     RE: rs232 (Re: Msg 80203)
     From: MRUPGRADE    To: DEMIGOD (NR)

  I have several,, but it says,, "youo cannot receive mail" ??
  Terry Simons  UPGRADE Editor


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90218 5-OCT 03:01  General Information
     Gold Runner 2000 Update
     From: MREGC        To: ALL


    Anyone who bought Gold Runner 2000 at the Fest and didn't receive the
minor update I gave out during the show on Sunday should contact me to get
that update.

    It's not that big of a deal, but I'm sure you would like to have the
"perfect" version as much as I'd like you to have it. :)

..Eric...
..Digital Frontier Productions...

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90220 5-OCT 19:03  Programmers Den
     Fast coco III
     From: BILL32H      To: ALL

        To Everyone ?


 This is Bill32h today I stuck a 36.00 mz crystal in my COCO III
works great <g> except :*( the High res mouse port . It worked up
until the time I did the upgrade.
 I think that the signal from the cassette port is too fast .The symptoms
are


At about 40 pixels from the top of the screen the mouse pointer lags a
little then proceeds to jump to the very top .So I have no access to
those apx. 40 pix without resorting to the keyboard-mouse :-((.


 Question how to slow the signal that drives the port.(If that's even why
the thing is misbehaving)

 Any response, theories, guesses ect ... appreciated...





                                BILL32H


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90225 6-OCT 01:31  Programmers Den
     RE: Fast coco III (Re: Msg 90220)
     From: COCOKIWI     To: BILL32H (NR)

You will need to change the value of the RAMP resistor by the IC pin 1....
R7....this changes the ramp speed ...<was used by CoCo-max> to stop copies!
they changed the value of the ORG...because they changed the speed<software>
in this case changing the Value will fix it,I think<grin> what value is left
to experiment on your part! put a 100k resistor and a 500k ajustable in place
of it,and see what happens!<G>....interesting that it works at 36 meg!
I,m working on a Video  poor mans toaster!<grin> the chip uses 36 meg VCO
to the Host ,but uses a 14.xxx Meg chip<old CoCo-1/2 use this xtal>
allows one to interlace a Composite signal and the RGB sig together into one
composite output!.......
Dennis

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90226 6-OCT 04:05  Programmers Den
     RE: Fast coco III (Re: Msg 90220)
     From: DIGIGRADE    To: BILL32H (NR)

 > This is Bill32h today I stuck a 36.00 mz crystal in my COCO III
 > works great <g> except :*( the High res mouse port . It worked up
 > until the time I did the upgrade.
 > I think that the signal from the cassette port is too fast.

    Sounds great. Hope you get that ironed out. Still sounds great. Are you
running Nitros9 as well?


    Dave

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90223 6-OCT 00:33  Telecom (6809)
     usenet
     From: WDTV5        To: ALL

Has anybody else attempted to enter a msg into the usenet, group 22 yet?
I made 2 tries in the last couple of days and the msg bounced along with
a nasty-assed msg from the listserver that I was to be ignored. Both
attempts were straight text, typed in while online. When is this system
gonna get a real editor, or issue enough instructs to make this one work?
It bounced the first word of each line like I was attempting to issue
a command to the editor instead of simply entering the text I typed.
When it got to the 10th line (and error) is when I got back a msg that
till someone else sends a re-instatement msg to the listserver I am to
be ignored. Thats getting under my skin a bit, after all I do pay for
the service and to my knowledge have NOT used my 20 hrs a month (10 on
the net) at any time.
No Cheers tonite, Gene Heskett, WDTV5@delphi.com

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90224 6-OCT 00:35  General Information
     RE: OS-9 Patches for the Coco III (Re: Msg 90167)
     From: MIKE_GUZZI   To: DENNYWRIGHT (NR)

ok it will be in new uploads section


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90227 6-OCT 04:05  General Information
     NTSC or Composite from RGB-A signal
     From: DIGIGRADE    To: ALL

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    From the Graphics Support SIG...

>6427 Wed 5-Oct-94 01:45 General Information (0)
>     RE: NTSC or Composite from RGB-A signal (Re: Msg 6412)
>  From: DI414        To: DIGIGRADE (NR)
>
>
>figurativly, if you power the coco3, cut the inputs to RGBVH patch the RGBVH
>of the mm1. it may or may not work. I remember marty sujesting an invertor
>for one of the monitors.. that is, if the signals are approx the same. since
>the mm1 is the spinoff of the coco3.

   This was the answer that sounded best to me. What does everyone here think?
Might this work? My whole goal that I defined in a lengthy post was to get
NTSC out of the MM/1 (or composite video). I don't care if I trash a CoCo3 in
the process.


      Dave


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