

#: 20008 S1/General Interest
    06-Jun-94  14:28:33
Sb: #19578-Windows/OS-9
Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526
To: Cherry Valley Lang Tech 71055,2527

Hi Steve,
I made some projects like yours under OS-9 using the GUI called MGR, which is
well supported by first, seccond and thrird parties.
OS-9 is well known in the "industrial I/O area" and several drivers are
available. Since there is the GNU-C-Compiler as ANSI and C++ version available,
there is the wide range of UNIX-Sources available for OS-9.

Ciao Martin
 

#: 20004 S1/General Interest
    04-Jun-94  06:40:00
Sb: #19998-#Finally here!
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Bill,

 >
 > I finished InfoXpress 1.2 just in time for the fest, but as you know,
 > neither of us made it.  I didn't have time to finish the documentation
 > updates, so if you can make do with the current documentation <g>, then
 > 1.2 is ready to be distributed as soon as Mark can make up some disks. All

I can make do with current docs, please put me on the list for the update.

Thanks for a great program.


 Keith Bauer

 CIS:71102,317    Delphi:keithbauer   Internet:kbauer@pids.com

 Via InfoXpress/OSK ver 1.01                     How 'bout them Cowboys!


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#: 20005 S1/General Interest
    04-Jun-94  11:32:03
Sb: #20004-Finally here!
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

Keith,

Please contact Mark Griffith directly to order a copy of the InfoXpress
upgrade. Thanks!

-Bill-

#: 20011 S1/General Interest
    08-Jun-94  13:38:33
Sb: #looking for printer
Fm: Heddi Plumb 74561,3470
To: all

I am looking for a printer # somewhere between DMP 105 and DMP 134
        It's for my father who has both above models, and had one in between
but can't remember what it is now, a it was stolen a while ago. I am trying to
replace it, but all I know is that it has serial input and near letter quality
printing. Sorry for the lack of details, but if you have one to sell, please
contact me.
        Thank You

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#: 20040 S1/General Interest
    16-Jun-94  22:35:51
Sb: #20011-#looking for printer
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To: Heddi Plumb 74561,3470 (X)

I have a DMP-130 I'm trying to sell.

Hugo

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#: 20041 S1/General Interest
    17-Jun-94  20:15:50
Sb: #20040-looking for printer
Fm: Heddi Plumb 74561,3470
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)

If the printer has a near letter quality print mode and a serial rather than
parallel input port I would be interested. please e-mail me with the price.
Thank You!

#: 20015 S1/General Interest
    10-Jun-94  22:04:26
Sb: #HMI for OS-9
Fm: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005
To: all

Has anyone considered developing for CompuServe's HMI (host micro interface) to
allow graphics and such?  This would really go well with a computer like the
MM/1.  They're sending me information from their external development
department.

Thoughts?

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#: 20016 S1/General Interest
    11-Jun-94  09:18:08
Sb: #20015-HMI for OS-9
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005 (X)

Boisy,

I've been in contact with them off and on for a couple of years.  The problem
is that they will not release specs for the HMI interface itself, and they will
not release sample source code, they will only release a compiled library of
functions for the mainstream DOS, Windows or Mac development platforms.  Maybe
Microware can do something about getting OSK libraries? I didn't get anywhere
with it, and neither have others like Amiga and Atari developers, and they've
tried a lot harder than I ever did.  I was looking at it strictly as a way to
make InfoXpress less prone to line noise, or changes in menus, but decided that
the effort to implement HMI was more than I really wanted to tackle (not to
mention CIS's disinterest in supporting a non standard platform).  If it was
available, I'd look into using it, and I'd be happy to add my support, as a
developer, for an OSK library. Please keep me posted.

-Bill-

#: 20017 S1/General Interest
    11-Jun-94  16:17:07
Sb: #20015-#HMI for OS-9
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005 (X)

Bill Dickhaus has expressed an interest ... James Jones _left_ CompuServe over
their lack of desire to share this information .. so he was interested. I know
Mark Griffith also expressed an interest at one time as well.

How did you manage to get them to send you anything?

*- Steve -*


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#: 20018 S1/General Interest
    11-Jun-94  22:28:06
Sb: #20017-#HMI for OS-9
Fm: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Well, I just inquired about it, and they are supposed to send me information on
who to contact for a more indepth discussion.  I am really not interested in
doing such a project myself, but would like to see it get done if at all
possible.  I downloaded the HMIDEV.TXT in the CMI support forum and read it,
btw.  If you haven't seen it, might want to check it out.

It looks like someone has plowed this row before though, without any success.

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#: 20019 S1/General Interest
    12-Jun-94  09:23:37
Sb: #20018-HMI for OS-9
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005 (X)

AHA!

I have long suspected that the popularity of all the fancy graphics and
multimedia interfaces was related to the fact that our schools no longer teach
people to read.

Perhaps the person at Compuserve in charge of releasing those specs is a recent
graduate.

Send him (or her) a picture.

(only half kidding)

           ********************************
       A stitch in time --------------------
               ------ is worth two in the bush

 John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>

#: 20034 S1/General Interest
    15-Jun-94  08:30:17
Sb: slip drivers for os9k
Fm: ted lechman 74104,650
To: all

I'm looking for a slip driver so that i can run tcp/ip and other related apps
(nfs, telnet, ftp) on a 386 os9000 system using a uart. Will pay. If you have
any info on suppliers please let me know. Ted

#: 20035 S1/General Interest
    15-Jun-94  08:30:18
Sb: slip drivers for os9k
Fm: ted lechman 74104,650
To: All.

I'm looking for a slip driver so that i can run tcp/ip and other related apps
(nfs, telnet, ftp) on a 386 os9000 system using a uart. Will pay. If you have
any info on suppliers please let me know. Ted

#: 20036 S1/General Interest
    15-Jun-94  08:30:20
Sb: slip drivers for os9k
Fm: ted lechman 74104,650
To: all.

I'm looking for a slip driver so that i can run tcp/ip and other related apps
(nfs, telnet, ftp) on a 386 os9000 system using a uart. Will pay. If you have
any info on suppliers please let me know. Ted

#: 20033 S3/Languages
    15-Jun-94  07:54:37
Sb: Probl. with Ada compiler
Fm: Franklin C.A. de Wi 100341,1534
To: all

Has anyone of you any experience with the Ada compiler for OS/9 from
Meridian ? Currently we're encountering some problems when using
optimize options.

Please respond to:

Franklin C. de Wit
tel: intl. 31-2230-53945
fax: intl. 31-2230-52945
compuserve: 100341,1534
internet: 100341.1534@compuserve.com

#: 20021 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    12-Jun-94  20:24:22
Sb: #Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Mike Fahy 74656,2340
To: All

This might get a little long winded and the subject will bear a
narrow band of interest, but I'm going to iterate my experience
installing a SCSI Hard Drive on a Coco III and see if I can get any
comments or constructive advice.

Hard Drive: Seagate ST138N - 30 MB RLL - Verified good on a PC.

Controller: Disto HDII piggybacked on a Disto Super Controller II.

Drivers: SCSI package from Matt Thompson, freeware & registered versions.

I started Friday afternoon using the registered version of the
software which adds caching, turbo, and a few other things to the
freeware version.

Throughout the documentation, it is quite emphatically stated that to
use 512 byte sectors, the actual sectors per track should be
multiplied by two when creating a device descriptor.  This was done.
Parameters used were 613 Heads, 4 cylinders, and 52 (26x2) SPT.

The low level and verify pass, which ignore the driver & descriptor,
correctly indicated a hex number which came out to about 64,000
sectors which would be 32 MB (64000*512).

Next an appropriate boot diskette was Os9gen'd containing H0 and
SCSISYS drivers.  When the High level format was started, it looked
at the descriptor and indicated a hex number of twice the number of
sectors which would tell the formatter to format a 64 MB drive.

I let it run, assuming the documentation was correct and, not
surprisingly, the drive commenced a lot of head banging halfway
through the format process.

I proceeded to twidle parameters, including backing down to 26
sectors per track.  This resulted in a sucessful completion of the
formatting but the drive was unreadable.

All this takes a huge amount of time, since a new boot disk must be
gen'd every time paramteres are changed.

Finally I went to bed.  Saturday morning I woke up with the bright
idea that if I double the sectors per track I should reduce the
cylinder count in half.

I did this and the high level formatting went without a hitch, but I
couldn't write anything legible to the drive.

After a third cup of coffee and a stroll around the house, I
resurrected my copy of the freeware version which doesn't have all
the caching and other speedups in it.

First I tried the descriptor creation according to the docs.  Double
the SPT and leave the actual cylinder count.  Same thing as the night
before . . head banging when it got to the end as if it was only half
finished.

Reduce the cylinder count in half, and all went beautifully.
Formatted 64,000, 512 byte, sectors giving me 32 megs.  I created the
necessary directories on the hard drive (Shell and Grfdrv in Cmds of
course, plus a DD descriptor in OS9boot on the floppy pointing to H0)
and the machine now starts the boot from the floppy, finishes from
the hard, including the commands in Startup on the hard.

Copied the rest of the operating system on the Hard Drive and I am
now running a three user system with both terminals (a PC and an old
Model III) defaulting to H0.

Picking up the pieces:

Couldn't use the registered version of Thompson's SCSI with a Disto HDII.

Contrary to the docs, I had to reduce the cylinder count if I
increased the SPT.

If anyone has waded this far through this message, I would love to
hear comments . .

                                             > Mike Fahy <

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#: 20022 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    12-Jun-94  22:35:07
Sb: #20021-#Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Ken Scales 74646,2237
To: Mike Fahy 74656,2340 (X)

 > Picking up the pieces:
 >
 > Couldn't use the registered version of Thompson's SCSI with a Disto HDII.
 >
 > Contrary to the docs, I had to reduce the cylinder count if I
 > increased the SPT.
 >
 > If anyone has waded this far through this message, I would love to
 > hear comments . .

Hi, Mike -

I have captured your message, and will forward it to Colin McKay at Northern
Xposure (the current distributor of the registered version of Matt's SCSISYS).
Colin can be reached directly at the following internet address:
cmckay@northx.isis.org

Regards... / Ken
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237
         ** Composed with KVed/Ved and uploaded with InfoXpress **

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#: 20026 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Jun-94  09:31:19
Sb: #20022-Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Mike Fahy 74656,2340
To: Ken Scales 74646,2237 (X)

Thanks, Ken.  I tried voice contact with Matt (according to the
docs) but all I got was an operator's recording unable to
complete the call.

The system as it now stands isn't half bad at all.  I found a
few patches to take care of interrupts and am overall quite
pleased.  The combination of SCSI & 512 byte sectors plus the
capabilities of the 6809 gives me performance far superior to my
older PC's and their MFM drives.  That isn't bias, it's simple
truth.

Be interesting to see how it works with Caching & Turbo in the
reg. version.  Hope something happens before I get the disk
filled up <g>.

The Disto arrangement is nice.  Pleasure to get rid of that
multipak.  Too much space for 4 lousy buss slots.

Now, if I could figure a way to attach an Ethernet board . .

                                   > Mike Fahy <

#: 20023 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Jun-94  06:53:46
Sb: #20021-#Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Mike Fahy 74656,2340 (X)

Mike,

Thanks for describing your experiences with SCSI on the CoCo3.  I'm about to
embark on that journey myself :-).  I have a Disto HDI, which may be fried (my
10M SASI system quit working about a month ago, and my CoCo has been down since
then) and a KenTon interface without a cable, so I haven't quite got all the
pieces together yet.  I'm going to use the ST157N I took out of my MM/1.  I'd
be interested in any response that you might get from Northern Xposure about
all this.

Does anyone know where I can get either a Disto HDI or a cable for a KenTon
SCSI interface?

-Bill-

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#: 20025 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    13-Jun-94  07:25:35
Sb: #20023-#Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Bill:

Making a Kenton cable is easy.  You need a 50 pin connector and a 34 pin
connector, as well as a strip of 34 conductor ribbon cable.  connect the 34 pin
card edge connector to one end of the ribbon cable.  At the other end, make a
split right in the middle of the cable, so that on one strip you have 17 wires,
and 17 on the other.  attach the cable onto the far left and right sides of the
connector, leaving 16 pins in the middle with no cable.  Be sure to take pin 1
into account.

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#: 20029 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Jun-94  16:48:15
Sb: #20025-Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005 (X)

Thanks, Boisy, if I can't find one for a reasonable price, I'll go ahead and
make my own, although I'd rather not.

-Bill-

#: 20027 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Jun-94  05:33:03
Sb: #20023-#Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Bill,

Last I heard, Ken-Ton is still around. Have you attempted to call them direct?



*- Steve -*


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#: 20030 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Jun-94  16:48:23
Sb: #20027-#Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Steve,

No, I wasn't sure whether they were still around or not. I picked up this
controller when CoCoPro was shutting down, and it came as is, no docs, no
cable, no software. Does anyone have a number for KenTon?

-Bill-

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#: 20032 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Jun-94  05:33:06
Sb: #20030-Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Bill,

Looking through my files, I found th shipping ticket for my Ken-Ton dual serial
port. The number I have is:

 KEN-TON Electronics Inc
 187 Greenacres Road
 Tonawanda, NY 14150
 716.837.9168

Maybe it's still current.



*- Steve -*


#: 20028 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Jun-94  15:47:25
Sb: Coco parts garage sale
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: All coco types

Well, I finally had to send a disk controller and drive to my parents, and this
pretty much disables my remaining coco II system. As a result, I'm parting it
out:


Coco MIDI cartridge - $30 Wordpak 80 column cartridge - $20 RS-232 pak - $15
Coco II 64K - $25 Multipak    - $20 80 track DS/DD drive - $15 External power
supply (12/5 vdc for disks) - $15 (HEAVY)

TONS (100's) of RS-DOS & OS9 disks (5.25 35, 40, and 80 trackers) - $10

As a garage sale special, I'll take $100 for the whole mess (add shipping).

Buyer pays shipping.

Either send mail to me here on CIS, or on the internet to plyall@netcom.com.


Pete Lyall


#: 20037 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Jun-94  23:24:45
Sb: #Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Ken Scales 74646,2237
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Steve Wegert said:
 > Looking through my files, I found th shipping ticket for my Ken-Ton dual
 > serial port. The number I have is:
 >
 > KEN-TON Electronics Inc
 > 187 Greenacres Road
 > Tonawanda, NY 14150
 > 716.837.9168

This agrees with the address given for Ken-Ton in the Vendors' section of the
May Chicago-Fest handbook, so is probably current.  The last line Steve
provided is the phone number, BTW (716-837-9168).

Regards... / Ken
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237
         ** Composed with KVed/Ved and uploaded with InfoXpress **

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#: 20038 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    16-Jun-94  06:38:25
Sb: #20037-Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Ken Scales 74646,2237

Thanks Ken (and Steve) I'll try and give the a call this week.


-Bill-

#: 20039 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    16-Jun-94  17:31:42
Sb: #20037-Coco III & SCSI
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ken Scales 74646,2237

 > the May Chicago-Fest handbook, so is probably current.  The last line
 > Steve provided is the phone number, BTW (716-837-9168).

Whatsamatter Ken .... you don't like the new International format for phone
numbers?  <wink>

 :-)



*- Steve -*


#: 20007 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-Jun-94  05:23:34
Sb: Speedisk Demo
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: All

A demo of the SPEEDISK hard drive optimizer/defragmentation program has been
recently uploaded into library 12.  Anyone with an OSK machine that is
interested in trying this out, please feel free.  Any questions can be posted
here, or send email to 76070,41.

Mark

#: 20020 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Jun-94  20:11:12
Sb: #Zmodem Question
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: All

Hey, gang, I have something I can't figure out.  I have an OSK machine- a
System 5, and have been attempting to use "rz", from a shell started under
Sterm.  I first attempted to d/l from my local BBS, and would get Timeout
errors.  I could use "rz" under my coco on this BBS.  The timeouts would come
rapidly, one every second, maybe.  All it would do was get the header and the
timeouts would begin.

Thinking it might be some quirk with the BBS I tried to dl from Delphi.  Here I
could get the file but would get a tremendous amt of Timeouts, and other
errors, even with error correction.

Now, my setup is a 2400 baud modem (Hayes Optima).  /t2 was set at 9600 baud.
On a hunch, I dropped /t2 back to 4800 and went to Delphi, good error-free d/l.
Went to the BBS and a good d/l.

Now I wonder why?  Does it have to do with the modem? Does this mean that "rz"
wouldn't work with a 14.4K modem at high speed?  Is the timeout being garbled
here or what?  Although not documented, I tried a "-t <timeout>" option on the
command line, but though seemingly changing the timeout time, it still didn't
help on the errors.


                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

         ***  Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
                       ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

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#: 20024 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    13-Jun-94  06:53:55
Sb: #20020-Zmodem Question
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: David Breeding 72330,2051

David,

Its possible that the modem isn't quite capable of communicating with your
system at 9600.  It could also be a flow control problem, although if you're
only connecting at 2400, I don't know why 4800 would work better than 9600.
How are the modem and port configured for flow control? How big is the input
buffer on /t2? I have mine set to 2048 on my MM/1.

-Bill-

#: 20031 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    15-Jun-94  00:12:20
Sb: Mfg support
Fm: Bill Barrett 70324,1747
To: all

I need to pack a configured vs. 3.0 system with user software on a set of 3"
floppies, for manufacturing build.  Anyone have any good ideas? It took a
consultant several weeks of hard labor the last time it was done, most of the
time spent reading a newspaper while waiting for a floppy to get written.

I'll provide some tips on dealing with events, signals and pipes in exchange.
Have learned a lot about the OS9 quirks, of which there are many.

#: 20009 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    06-Jun-94  14:42:25
Sb: #19697-OS/9 vs pSOS
Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526
To: Cherry Valley Lang Tech 71055,2527

Hi Steve,
there seem to be no GUI-support under psos+, neither client nor server.
psos+ development enviroment seems to need a specialist when beeing installed
(I'm only experienced on PC-based development systems).

Ciao Martin
 

#: 20006 S15/Hot Topics
    04-Jun-94  11:32:11
Sb: #20002-OS-9 to OS-9000
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Pete,

I've ported a couple of things from OSK to OS9000, and it looks like MicroWare
went out of their way to provide compatability between the two. Just about all,
if not all, of the OSK library calls are provided, even though the underlying
system is much more complex. I haven't had any free time lately to play much
with OS9000, but I'm impressed.

-Bill-

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