
85374 1-FEB 14:21  General Information
     RE: 6551 problems (Re: Msg 85366)
     From: ISC          To: MITHELEN

We have a supply problem here in the northeastern section of NY also.  Hackers
 time these days.

ime for a little work with the logic probe!
Good luck.

Bill

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85375 1-FEB 19:04  General Information
     RE: MOTD (Re: Msg 85317)
     From: THETAURUS    To: LUCKYONE (NR)

        >>You and Joel keep up the good work.

        I agree, it really is shaping up in content. It was mentioned in
   there that the newsletter itself wasn't that good as of late<not the
   content but the  makeup and layout itself>. I think it's fine, and as
   a member don't think they should concentrate too much on how the MOTD
   comes out so long as it is decent<personally I like it as it is now>
   and not try and make it too flashy. From what I read, it seems they
   are taking this route, and taking care of more important matters,
   rather than worrying about producing another magazine :-) so that's
   good. Maybe later when the resources are available, we can have it
   spiffed up a bit.
        I was starting to worry for a bit, because I wasn't hearing much
   of the UG here for a couple weeks or so, and then the latest MOTD
   showed up, and it looks like EVERYONE is serious about making this
   work. I hope everyone in the membership gets involved, even if it is
   little things that they do. I plan on at least putting in my 2 cents
   tho if possible, I'd rather give $1.50 :-)
        Also, I'm glad they are making the account balances open, as I
   have a big interest in how it stands financially, because I may have
   some idea on how to bring money into the UG or at least ideas for
   current methods, and questions, on what we can do legally to bring it
   in.

        See Ya
        >Chris<

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85376 1-FEB 19:04  General Information
     RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 85361)
     From: THETAURUS    To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)

        >>I think I saw Coco Sculptor selling for $79 in either the
   Underground or World of '68 Micros,...

        That was 'The OS9 Underground' you saw it in, but it might also
   be in '68 Micros'. I wouldn't know because I don't yet have a
   subscription :-(
        I also saw the add in the latest issue of the Underground. It is
   from Computer Design Services, which I imagine is somehow affiliated
   with Peripheral Technologies, and I think it is OSK only<this one is
   Version1.14:6>.

        See Ya
        >Chris<

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85377 1-FEB 19:45  OSK Applications
     RE: Gnu Chess (Re: Msg 85330)
     From: WRHAMBLEN    To: RANDYKWILSON

It occurs to me that because gnuchess uses register variables and that
while gnuchess talked to your serial terminal, yet not to your MM/1 console
device, that your MM/1 console driver, windows, or whatever is stepping on
a variable.  I've recompiled gnuchess without register variables (it's about
4K longer that way) and will upload it or mail it if you want to try it.

Bud

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85380 1-FEB 20:29  OSK Applications
     RE: Gnu Chess (Re: Msg 85377)
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: WRHAMBLEN (NR)

I don't think, by design of OS9, that KWin is stepping on the program
registers or variable space. A more likely cause would be gnuchess spazzing
out on what it found (or didn't find) in the vsc termcap entry. Is there
a way to get a list of what the program expects, termcap-wise?

  Randy

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85378 1-FEB 20:09  OSK Applications
     9600bps connection
     From: KEITHBAUER   To: ALL

Ever so slowly I am getting things going with the Zoom 14.4 modem. I am now
able to connect to Delphi at 9600 via Osterm/68k but for some reason I can
not connect using IX. I have it setup as direct. At first it seems that IX
was not waiting long enough for the modem to decide on the speed that it was
connecting at. I added F8 and N0 to the init string and that seemed to solve
the problem. I then was able to connect without IX breaking the connection.
IX then sends out the "C DELPHI" string but it sends it out before delphi
asks for it.

I am on an MM/1 using port T4. I have the jumpers set as DTE and RTS/DTR
Tied High. I am able to upload & download from Delphi, CIS, and my local
BBS at high speeds. My only problem left is connecting with IX.

Any ideas?

 Keith Bauer

 CIS:71102,317    Delphi:keithbauer   Internet:kbauer@pids.com

 Via InfoXpress/OSK ver 1.01                     How 'bout them Cowboys!


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85381 1-FEB 20:39  OSK Applications
     RE: 9600bps connection (Re: Msg 85378)
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: KEITHBAUER

Keith, my Zoom works fine on /t3, as it came out of the box. First, restrap
the paddle board. Either set both RTS and DTR to toggled, or *remove* the
jumpers entirely, which while force the two low. The jumpers are on the TTL
side of things, so true=low. Your modem is not going to like seeing DTR and RTS
false.

 Then set your port speed to 19200, and hardware handshake on (type=80). Reset
the modem to factory defaults, and give it a try. You may want to try it
with Terminal v1.0 (shareware version). I do know that this program does the
controls right. I can not vouch for OSTerm, having never seen it in action.

  Once you have the mm/1 and modem working together as intended, not three
quarters brain-dead, then we can see what it takes to get ix working, on the
off chance it still complains.


   Randy

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85379 1-FEB 20:24  OSK Applications
     9600 bps
     From: KEITHBAUER   To: ALL

Okay, well I found a Sprintnet 9600 number and now I can use IX without
sending anything special to the modem. Thanks to John Baer for the 1-800
number for sprintnet!

Thanks

 Keith Bauer

 CIS:71102,317    Delphi:keithbauer   Internet:kbauer@pids.com

 Via InfoXpress/OSK ver 1.01                     How 'bout them Cowboys!


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85384 1-FEB 22:42  OSK Applications
     RE: 9600 bps (Re: Msg 85379)
     From: JOHNBAER     To: KEITHBAUER


   Keith, and others looking for 9600 local numbers..

 > Okay, well I found a Sprintnet 9600 number and now I can use IX without
 > sending anything special to the modem. Thanks to John Baer for the 1-800
 > number for sprintnet!
 >

   Here's a Tymnet number also:  1-800 336-0149

   This number has a human at the other end, just ask for a 9600 local
number or two :)

   Right now, I have to use Tymnet, as Sprints modems are not reliable in
my area.. Phila Pa..  My LineLink 144e will sync every time with Tymnet.

--
   John -
         johnbaer@delphi.com      jbaer@pacs.pha.pa.us
   * IX 1.01 *   "If you lose your memory, forget it!"

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85386 1-FEB 22:52  OSK Applications
     RE: 9600 bps (Re: Msg 85384)
     From: VAXELF       To: JOHNBAER (NR)

  I am using a MM/1 with a USR 14.4/14.4FAX Sporter external modem. I have
no trouble with using either 9600 here on Delphi or 14.4 on a local BBS.
I am using the default settings.
  BTW I am upgrading, for Blackhawk, the old Terminal 1.0 to a newer
version called KTerm. Right now it is at Beta 2.0. Using it right now.
When David brings it out, I think you will be impressed on the upgrade.

It now has 38K baud for one thing.

John D.

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85382 1-FEB 20:43  General Information
     RE: COCO Keyboard PIA (Re: Msg 85371)
     From: JMOORFOOT    To: COCOKIWI

Thanks for that. I will replace it tomorrow. The zap was caused bt the same
thing as yours - I re-housed the coco in an old Convergent Technologies
Miniframe case - with 2 80 trk DS floppies, a 40M & a 20M MFM drive via
a B&B controller. In the process, I killed my Puppo Keyboard i/f & so
wired up an old switch matrix keyboard with a long cord. It was this that
moved the other night & zapped the PIA. Bye.

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85383 1-FEB 22:16  General Information
     RE: COCO Keyboard PIA (Re: Msg 85382)
     From: COCOKIWI     To: JMOORFOOT (NR)

I hit it right on the nail<grin>.....
Dennis

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85385 1-FEB 22:45  OSK Applications
     RE: RUMOR (Re: Msg 85372)
     From: VAXELF       To: EDELMAR

Ed,
  Thanks for the info. In a way, it should help put OS9 firmly into the
home market. I can see the possiblity, (if it will be allowed) of a home
OS9 computer that also has the cable tie. It would be the ultimat OS9
machine.

John D.

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85387 2-FEB 03:06  OSK Applications
     RE: OPutBlk () (Re: Msg 85266)
     From: MREGC        To: JOELHEGBERG (NR)

Joel,

  > ... try doing this... type:  desktop >>>deskdump...

    A very good idea. I'll add it to the list of things I've got in mind to do
to figure this blasted thing out. I didn't come this far to watch it blow up
now! :)

..Eric...

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85388 2-FEB 03:07  OSK Applications
     RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85347)
     From: LARRYOLSON   To: JOELHEGBERG (NR)

Joel,
   I guess I'm not sure what those MOD files are. Are they just a different
format sampleing file, like IFF, VOC, WAV and so on ? So in order to have
1 minute of sound, sampled at 10k, it would take 600k of memory or 1.2m for
stereo. But I think that those MIDI only contain information needed to
build the needed waveforms. In other words, they would tell an external
generator, give me a 1000 cycle tone for 1 minute. This is very very simple
example, but the difference in data storage would be tremendous.

larry

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85389 2-FEB 12:51  General Information
     Kix 30 Kick-around
     From: BOISY        To: ALL

I'm interested in hearing from those of you who own a Kix-30.  I'm
thinking about buying one (with the MGA board) and would like to
hear "testimonials" from satisfied or dissatisfied users.

Thanks

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85390 2-FEB 20:14  OSK Applications
     RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85388)
     From: JOELHEGBERG  To: LARRYOLSON (NR)


Larry,

    MOD files are small sound files made from "instruments" (short sampled
waveforms or sounds) at a base frequency.  Then, the rest of the MOD file is
just the "arrangement" of those sounds, plus volume change info, and pitch
change info.  So, there may be a violin "instrument" sound sample, and then
the frequency is just varied to create different notes for the song.  This is
why MOD files are so much smaller than fully sampled files!  (And also why
they require so much CPU time, with all the pitch and volume changing on the
fly!)  So, this would be very much what a MIDI player would have to do as well.

  -- Joel.


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85391 2-FEB 20:22  General Information
     RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85353)
     From: JEJONES      To: BANANAMAN

Well...you shouldn't let not having Bison (or byacc, which I use to keep what
I do from being contaminated with GPL) and flex keep you from doing a compiler.

Heck, pcc didn't use lex for its lexical scanner, and since Ritchie's C
compiler predates yacc, it certainly wasn't written using yacc.  Recursive
descent, with operator precedence for the expressions, should do the job.

The important part is what you do once you've finished parsing.




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85399 2-FEB 21:43  General Information
     RE: Wisht (latest) (Re: Msg 85391)
     From: BANANAMAN    To: JEJONES

:)  Ya.  I was just hoping I wouldn't have to start from scratch.  Maybe
it'll give me something to do while I wait for my PowerPC 604 system to
go into production.  I figure by then the emulators just might be stable.
  --Andy

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85392 2-FEB 20:41  OSK Applications
     RE: 9600 bps (Re: Msg 85386)
     From: JOHNBAER     To: VAXELF


   John,

> ... I am upgrading, for Blackhawk, the old Terminal 1.0 to a newer
> version called KTerm. Right now it is at Beta 2.0. Using it right now.
> When David brings it out, I think you will be impressed on the upgrade.
>
> It now has 38K baud for one thing.
>
> John D.
>
   Sounds real good John.  I'll be looking for the release info here.
I saw that you got squared away with your connect problem.. glad to here it.
--
   John -
         johnbaer@delphi.com      jbaer@pacs.pha.pa.us
   * IX 1.01 *   "If you lose your memory, forget it!"

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8 h oy!

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85404 2-FEB 22:48  General Information
     RE: B&B (Re: Msg 85393)
     From: MITHELEN     To: DSRTFOX (NR)

I know Chris can still be contacted by Internet, as he occasionally
posts messages to the PUCC CoCo mailing list. (Which implies he also reads
the list on occasion) IT seems that he usually only speaks up when someone
is noteing a problem with one of the B&B software items. I don't know
why Chris has made himself so hard to get ahold of... It sure would be nice
if he would at least make a statement as to why he seems to be in
Hideing...
--
Paul

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85394 2-FEB 21:23  Telecom (6809)
     modems;
     From: DENNYWRIGHT  To: ALL

Anyone have any idea what the settings aare for the 8 dip switches inside the
front of a Hayes 1200 Smartmodem ? It'll be running out of the bitbanger port.
Or maybe you know Hayes aaddress or phone # ? Thanx in advance !

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85400 2-FEB 22:19  Telecom (6809)
     RE: modems; (Re: Msg 85394)
     From: Rga rat??

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85403 2-FEB 22:38  General Information
     RE: Microware on NPR (Re: Msg 85396)
     From: MRGOOD       To: DSRTFOX (NR)

Sorry, I have no idea what the address for National Public
Radio would be.  I know they're based in Washington DC...

Hugo

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85397 2-FEB 21:35  General Information
     RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 85376)
     From: DSRTFOX      To: THETAURUS

Yes, the ad was in OS-9 Underground, not 68' micros. CDS is NOT affiliated
with Peripheral Tech though... they are a competitor! All the PT boards are
(currently) based on the 8 bit PC/XT buss, while the CDS boards are based
on the PC/AT 16 bit buss. The Delmar System IV uses a PT68K board, System V
uses the CDS board.

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85398 2-FEB 21:37  General Information
     RE: Kix 30 Kick-around (Re: Msg 85389)
     From: DSRTFOX      To: BOISY

Boisy, order a copy of "68' micros" at $4, and request the March 15 copy (next
one out). There will be a pretty detailed article on the KiX/3a noplete termcap entry, but it won't tell you
what it needs.

Bud

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85405 2-FEB 23:00  OSK Applications
     RE: Gnu Chess (Re: Msg 85402)
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: WRHAMBLEN (NR)

Hmm, all termcap entries ar there, and correct. So much for that guess.

I just tried gnuchess again. It accessed the harddrive (includes loading
program), then just sits there. I killed it from another window, (no crash
this time :), and found that the window I ran it in now has the tmode set to
noecho and nopause. I just started up gnuchess again, and am watching it from
another window with "procs -a". At the point it ceased functioning, it had done
18 F$ calls, and 44 I$ calls; last being a I$Read. Total of 7173 read, 0
written.
I just punched a few keys at random and the program ran a little more, doing
some hard drive access. It's now up to 173 I$ calls, last being a Read, with
about 53K read. Hitting keys no long gets a response.

 Wow, procs -a says that it's now doing I$Setstt's, at the rate of a

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