

#: 20414 S1/General Interest
    28-Sep-94  19:49:23
Sb: #19940-OS-9 Jobs Available
Fm: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
To: Hector  L. Alicea 73051,3541

HECTOR,

I am currently working for a FUJI America Corp. as a software engineer
specializing in OS-9 control systems. My principle duties are in the area of
system integration ie:UDP;TCP/IP;Machine Control. I have written a bit of code
for setting up sockets, device drivers etc. however I do not consider myself a
"GURU" of OS-9.

I would be interested in obtaining more information on the position you
mentioned if you have not filled it yet. Thank you for your time and I hope to
be hearing from you soon.

Rob Hilligoss

#: 20367 S1/General Interest
    13-Sep-94  21:31:03
Sb: #Windows95
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
To: All

For your enlightened entertainment,

When I spotted this I had to read it 3 times before I beleaved it.

I read the following in the September 12th 1994 issue of Infoworld on
page 10. The title of the piece is: "It's official: Chicago will be
called Windows95"  The article describes why Microsoft decided on the
name Windows95 rather than Windows 4.0 because...

"According to Microsoft, users had difficulty understanding which
version of Windows, 3.0, 3.1, or 3.11 was the latest."

Explains a lot doesn't it.

However we must ask the question. Which came first?

Do stupid people buy Windows or does using Windows make people stupid?

I'll let you decide.


Frank Hogg

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#: 20373 S1/General Interest
    15-Sep-94  00:05:32
Sb: #20367-#Windows95
Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X)

Gosh, Frank, I use Windows for seven or eight hours a day at work, and Mensa
doesn't think I'm stupid yet! Mind you, maybe using OS9 at home is an antidote
of sorts. Actually, I like Windows' point-and-shoot launcher, but it is
miserable at actually running things, and its multitasking is a poor joke. And
talk about slow!

But which one is the latest? Gee, does it matter? They ALL crash with amazing
regularity.

Oh, it was MY decision to buy Windows at work, for the simple reason that all
the sophisticated software works only with Windows, and we have some 45
MSDOS/Windows computers in our office; kinda hard to be odd man out!

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#: 20376 S1/General Interest
    15-Sep-94  22:20:50
Sb: #20373-#Windows95
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)

 >But which one is the latest? Gee, does it matter?

What amazed me was that Microsoft had to change the name because their users
couldn't do simple math. I'm still shaking my head about that.

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#: 20378 S1/General Interest
    16-Sep-94  19:38:32
Sb: #20376-#Windows95
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X)

If the new windows is version 95...then what confusion will there be 5 years
from now when they bring out version 00. Hmmmmm.

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#: 20382 S1/General Interest
    18-Sep-94  05:34:52
Sb: #20378-Windows95
Fm: Ken Flanagan 75460,2514
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Easy.  After weeks of meetings, Mr. Gates will get a brainstorm. Windows2000!
Boy, oh boy, what a genius they have running MicroSoft.  ;)

#: 20387 S1/General Interest
    20-Sep-94  14:49:45
Sb: #PowerPC Support
Fm: Emmelmann 73064,3255
To: All

Will OS9 in future run on PowerPC processors ?
Who knows more.

Thanks in advance, Klaus.

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#: 20412 S1/General Interest
    28-Sep-94  17:46:49
Sb: #20387-PowerPC Support
Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417
To: Emmelmann 73064,3255

Hello Klaus

A version of OS-9 called OS9000(known as portable OS-9) will run on PowerPC on
what they call PREP-hardware(Powerpc REference Platform)

Timeframe is 2-3 months from now.

regards ole@danelec.dk

#: 20391 S1/General Interest
    22-Sep-94  08:51:25
Sb: #Hello Again
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: All

Hi All!

I'm back on CIS again after a couple months.  Just lurking and keeping in
touch.  I no longer have any OS-9 or OSK equipment. Actually, I have no
computer equipment at all at home.


See ya!

Mark

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#: 20394 S1/General Interest
    24-Sep-94  11:50:14
Sb: #20391-Hello Again
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

 > I'm back on CIS again after a couple months.  Just lurking and keeping in
 > touch.  I no longer have any OS-9 or OSK equipment.

Good to hear from you, Mark.  Do keep in touch.  I'm sure everyone would miss
your presence.


                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

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#: 20407 S1/General Interest
    27-Sep-94  21:53:37
Sb: #20391-#Hello Again
Fm: Howard Luckey 74746,3207
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

 > Hi All!
 >
 > I'm back on CIS again after a couple months.  Just lurking and keeping in
 > touch.  I no longer have any OS-9 or OSK equipment. Actually, I have no
 > computer equipment at all at home.
 >
 > See ya!
 >
 > Mark
 >

Hi, Mark.

I am glad to hear from you again.

Howard

   Howard Luckey
   delphi LUCKYONE
   CIS 74746,3207

  Hold an OS-9 conference and they will come.

       ********** By InfoXpress 1.01 **********



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#: 20408 S1/General Interest
    28-Sep-94  08:49:33
Sb: #20407-Hello Again
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Howard Luckey 74746,3207

HOward,

Thanks!  Didn't know you had a CIS account.  Great!

Mark

#: 20426 S1/General Interest
    29-Sep-94  22:38:15
Sb: HELP OS-9
Fm: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Thanks for the suggestion I am going to try it.

thanks again
rob

#: 20425 S1/General Interest
    29-Sep-94  22:37:26
Sb: HELP OS-9
Fm: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227

Thanks for the hint I will post it tonite!

thanks again
rob

#: 20415 S1/General Interest
    28-Sep-94  20:12:40
Sb: #Image Processing
Fm: Zack Sessions 71532,1555
To: all

Special notice to all who plan on attending the upcoming CoCoFest in Atlanta!!!

I will be offering a new service at my booth. Do you have a photograph that you
always wanted to view on your computer? I will have my flatbed color scanner
set up and will scan any photo of anything and save it on a floppy for you in
whatever format and resolution you wish. Supported file formats are TIFF
(uncompressed or LZH compressed), GIF, JPEG, or BMP. TIFF, BMP and JPEG can be
24-bit color or 256 colors. GIF can only be in 256 colors.


 ------------------------------------
  Zack C Sessions

     If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.


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#: 20419 S1/General Interest
    29-Sep-94  08:56:23
Sb: #20415-#Image Processing
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555 (X)

Zack,

Cool!  You have this all running on an OS-9 machine?

Mark

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#: 20422 S1/General Interest
    29-Sep-94  18:51:05
Sb: #20419-#Image Processing
Fm: Zack Sessions 71532,1555
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

 > Cool!  You have this all running on an OS-9 machine?

Umm, you are joking, aren't you?

No way is this running on an OS-9 machine, espcially anything near capable of
providing profiesional looking scans. I'll be using it on my IBM486SLC2/66 and
Micrografx Picture Publisher V4.0.


 ------------------------------------
  Zack C Sessions

     If you're not the "lead dog", the scenery never changes.


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#: 20428 S1/General Interest
    30-Sep-94  08:54:01
Sb: #20422-Image Processing
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Zack Sessions 71532,1555

Zack,

I didn't think it was running under OS-9.  Why post it here then?  Perhaps you
should be telling the people on the IBM forums.  Then again, maybe this is
inappropriate for an OS-9 show, don't you think?

Mark

(Does the scenery ever change around you?)

#: 20424 S1/General Interest
    29-Sep-94  22:26:03
Sb: InfoXpress
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: All

Effective immediately there is a new distributor for InfoXpress, Wittman
Computer Products, operated by Bill Wittman.

WCP will be at the Atlanta fest this weekend (10/1-10/2) and I will be demoing
InfoXpress at their booth.

Other products that WCP offers are, for OSK K-Windows, DeskTamer and
LaTerm/LaDial, and an OSK Point-of-Sale package, as well as MM/1 and other
68xxx hardware.  Watch for their new ad in the OS-9 Underground Magazine.

For ordering information, you can contact me in email, or you can contact
Wittman Computer Products directly at (716) 494-1506 [EST].

 -Bill-
 -------------------------------------------------------------
 Bill Dickhaus              Internet: dickhaus@mdcc.edu (work)
 CIS:      70325,523                  70325.523@compuserve.com
 Delphi:   BILLDICKHAUS               BILLDICKHAUS@delphi.com

#: 20417 S3/Languages
    28-Sep-94  20:41:37
Sb: #20318-GNU C compiler
Fm: Bruno Nilsson 76407,600
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Thank you very much for the information Bill. I will try it right away.

Bruno Nilsson

#: 20362 S5/OS9 Users Group
    12-Sep-94  23:02:49
Sb: #20354-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)

 > I'll check out my disks first thing tomorrow... The disks are original
 > disks from Radio Shack - one says System Resources and I think the other
 > one says Boot Disk - but can't be sure till I check them out..

Hmm.. Looking over my original Disks, You MAY have ver 1.01, which will not
boot on the coco3.  My Ver 1.01 disks say "OS-9 BOOT", and "OS-9 System
Master".  The cat # is 26-3030.  However, you can get the original Level 1
assembler off this if you are into assembly language.  If you do, indeed, have
this non-bootable Version, and don't have a bootable version, I'm sure someone
has a spare copy of Level 2 that they will don't need and will let you have
very reasonably.

 > Will this thing only use Radio Shack drives? Or can an old IBM external
 > drive be used?

You can use about any type drive up through Double Density.  If you plan on
doing much with it and don't go to a hard drive, I'd suggest installing at
least one 720K disk.  The controller will not support High-Density disks,
however, you can use a 1.44 drive and use the 720-K disks, but can't use the
1.44-K disks.  The computer will support up to 3 double-sided disks. Oh, BTW,
is the Drive controller Radio Shack or third-party?


                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

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#: 20375 S5/OS9 Users Group
    15-Sep-94  05:35:49
Sb: #20362-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)

Yep, solved the problem - found version 2.00 - it boots fine now... Thanks for
the help...

I have  all kinds of disk drives (3 inch! - not 3 1/2) but only have one
controller (radio Shack)  - does Radio Shack still sell the cables to let you
hook disk drives together?  I  get I/O errors all the time with the 5 1/4...
Does that mean there might be problems with the drive, or is it just my
stupidity???? :-)

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#: 20377 S5/OS9 Users Group
    16-Sep-94  06:37:51
Sb: #20375-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)

Chances are that its the drive, or the disks. I recently went through a box of
old 5 1/4 disks and could only get about half of them to even read, and the
ones that worked got lots of I/O errors. If its one of the older Tandy drives,
its also quite possible its out of alignment.

-Bill-

#: 20380 S5/OS9 Users Group
    17-Sep-94  12:35:00
Sb: #20375-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)

 > I have  all kinds of disk drives (3 inch! - not 3 1/2) but only have one
 > controller (radio Shack)  - does Radio Shack still sell the cables to let

Not sure about 3" drives..  I'm not really up on exactly what is what on the
various drives.  Hopefully, someone here can enlighten you better than I.

Re: cables. you Might be able to special order them but, if you want to do a
lot with OS/9, you would be better off to set it up for double sided drives, it
will give you more capacity (Well.. of course it would <G> ).  I'm not sure, if
the drives are RS, they are probably actually double-sided, but the cable is
wired goofy so it will work 4 single-sided drives.. I believe you have to
modify the power supply board, I'm not sure, and the cables are easy to make..
all you need is a 34-wire flat cable, a standard 34-wire edge card connector
for the controller end, and the same for the 5 1/4 drives.  The 3 1/2 drives
require a different connector (not sure about the 3's).  However, all the 3
1/2's I've fooled with have #1 pin on opposite side than the 5 1/4's, so for
these, if you make up the cable, have them facing the opposite side than the
connectors for the 5 14's and then twist the cable.  Oh, most coco cables don't
have the twisted pair found in the PC cables.

 > you hook disk drives together?  I  get I/O errors all the time with the 5
 > 1/4... Does that mean there might be problems with the drive, or is it
 > just my stupidity???? :-)

I doubt it's you.. It could be the connections are dirty on the controller,
some cleaning might help.. Also, the drive COULD be slightly out of alignment.
Do you have 2 drives or 1?  If 2, are errors on both drives?


                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

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#: 20396 S5/OS9 Users Group
    24-Sep-94  17:06:28
Sb: #20380-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)

Another one of those skills I'm going to learn and never knew I could -
building cables!  Why not - could come in handy someday... I've saved your
message - I may need it.....

Time to clean the drives.... I have 2 3 inch drives (# 0 and 1) OR I have one 5
1/4 - but not at the same time... I have to unplug one to use the other
one.......

Jean

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#: 20401 S5/OS9 Users Group
    25-Sep-94  18:53:43
Sb: #20396-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020

 > Another one of those skills I'm going to learn and never knew I could -
 > building cables!

 > Time to clean the drives.... I have 2 3 inch drives (# 0 and 1) OR I have
 > one 5 1/4 - but not at the same time... I have to unplug one to use the
 > other one.......

Will your case hold 2 or more drives?  If so, all you might need to do is add
another connector for the additional drive(s).  Then add the descriptor "d1" to
your bootfile.  What's the capacity of the 3" drives?  You can have up to 3
double sided drives or 4 single sided drives in the system (you can get more,
but it's a little complicated).

Oh, to get double-sided operation, if the cable is Radio Shack, you might have
to do more.. not familiar w/ RS cables, but it seems they might be connected a
little squirrely.. not sure.. never fooled with the RS versions myself.

                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

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#: 20405 S5/OS9 Users Group
    26-Sep-94  20:24:54
Sb: #20401-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)

Just thought I should add that if you are using a Amdeck Disk Drive (if memory
serves...) then these are a single sided drive using a 3" disk. However, the
disks are flippies. Don't know if cable hacking would hurt with these, but
please remember that they are single sided drives.

#: 20361 S5/OS9 Users Group
    12-Sep-94  23:01:31
Sb: #20355-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)

 > Thanks for the reply... Glad to hear that some of the disks might work
 > without OS/9... Maybe sticking in the Deft Pascal and staring at it for a
 > while will let me regain some confidence!

To check for the non-OS/9 disks, under RS-DOS (what you start up in), insert
them individually and do a "dir" on them... if text shows up, they are DISK
BASIC disks and you can run them without OS/9.  Do you have docs for any of
them?

 > No, I never get to the error stage of my OS/9 boot up... Even an error
 > would be more satisfying (in a strange kind of way)...

 > Unfortunately with this one EVERYTHING could be a problem since its all
 > new to me....

Well, unless the disk is glitched, it should boot (although it doesn't). Since
it was with the CoCo 3, it SHOULD be either Level 1, Version2, or Level 2, but,
just in case, if you know someone who has a coco 2, you might try to boot on
it.  If it is level 2, it won't boot on the coco 2, but if it does boot and
says "Version 2" (of either level), then it is incompatible with the coco3.  Do
you have the games Flight Simulator 2, King's Quest, Rogue, koronis Rift, or
anything that says it's for the coco 3?  Any of these operate under OS/9..  On
some of these, you can exit to the DOS, and then you might be able to do dir's
on some of the disks you have in question. (Not the RS-DOS disks, I mean the
OS/9 disks)... One catch, all Standard disks are single-sided, and as supplied,
don't support double-sided disks, and the disks in question might be
double-sided..  Double-sided disks will boot, but the disks that come from
Radio Shack are not set up to support the double-sided disks.

However, you might look through your disks and look for another boot disk.

 >  But, I've never been one to give up.....I had a Beta VCR for
 > years after they virtually disappeared from the face of the earth too :-)

OK, you've got me convinced <G>


                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

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#: 20363 S5/OS9 Users Group
    12-Sep-94  23:16:20
Sb: #20361-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)

 > might try to boot on it.  If it is level 2, it won't boot on the coco 2,
 > but if it does boot and says "Version 2" (of either level), then it is
                       ^^^^^^^^ Darn... can't keep a thought straight... That
SHOULD have been
      "DOESN'T SAY"

 > incompatible with the coco3.


                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

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#: 20374 S5/OS9 Users Group
    15-Sep-94  05:35:42
Sb: #20361-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)

Good news... looking through the millions of disks that came with this computer
I realized that the version of OS/9 I was trying to get to work was version
1.00.... I then managaed to find Version 2.00... put it in and it workds like a
charm - well - if I knew how to use it - it would!

Next step - read the millions of manuals that came with this stuff and actually
DO something with this stuff...

Thanks again for the help...

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#: 20379 S5/OS9 Users Group
    17-Sep-94  12:33:17
Sb: #20374-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)

 > Good news... looking through the millions of disks that came with this
 > computer I realized that the version of OS/9 I was trying to get to work
 > was version 1.00.... I then managaed to find Version 2.00... put it in and
 > it workds like a charm - well - if I knew how to use it - it would!

Good.. I was almost certain this was the case.. Now, is your working version
Level 1, Version 2?  If so, and you want to do some neat stuff, see if you
have, Level 2.. If not, try to get a copy.. post here.. someone is sure to have
a spare copy they'll let you have cheap or nearly so.  It's far better,
windowing capability, 80-col screen etc (do you have a monitor?)

 > Next step - read the millions of manuals that came with this stuff and
 > actually DO something with this stuff...

If you are into playing with computers, you'll be truly amazed at what this
little computer can do.

I believe you'll be thrilled...

 > Thanks again for the help...

If I did help, I was glad to do so.  Any more questions... let us know.
                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

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#: 20395 S5/OS9 Users Group
    24-Sep-94  17:06:23
Sb: #20379-#OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020
To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X)

Gee, every time I think I'm getting the hang of this computer a little bit -
you guys ask me another question!  I'm not sure what Level the OS/9 disks
are... HOw do you figure that out?  There's a sticker on the disks that says
"2.00", but nothing else....

I was reading through one of the CoCo magazines that came with this and it
talked about all the great things that level 2 could do... sure seemed ahead of
its time...

The monitor I'm using is one from an Amiga in the school that's been sitting
around for more than a week - we kind of have a "use it or lose it" policy -
luckily for me...

I have a really silly question about os/9 - how do you get programs to run with
it... I have this huge book on OS/9 - it talks about all the great things it
can do, but I can't find out how after it's running I can stick in a disk that
runs under OS/9 and just run it (or load it, or EXEC it...) Maybe I'm just
overwhelmed and will figure it out eventually....

Jean

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#: 20399 S5/OS9 Users Group
    25-Sep-94  11:33:48
Sb: #20395-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020 (X)

Jean -

Simple - all you do is type the name of the program, and it will be loaded from
disk and executed.

There are some assumptions made:

   a) That the program is indeed executable code
   b) That the program is on the disk, and in the execution directory
      (usually /dd/cmds or /d0/cmds)

If you need to change disks to run your program, you need to help os9 find the
execution directory on the new disk. Your best bet here is to type the
following:

   chx /d0/cmds (or /dd/cmds)
   chd /d0      (or /dd)
   {program_name}

That should do it!

Pete Lyall

#: 20400 S5/OS9 Users Group
    25-Sep-94  18:52:45
Sb: #20395-OS/9 won't work - HELP!
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: Jean Gagnon 72164,2020

 > Gee, every time I think I'm getting the hang of this computer a little bit -
 > you guys ask me another question!  I'm not sure what Level the OS/9 disks
 > are... HOw do you figure that out?

When you boot up, you should see a logo at the top of the screen. If it is
Level 2, it will say so.. There will also be a version #, but look for the
"Level #".  If you have your docs, they will be in a loose-leaf binder.  Also,
you can issue the command "mdir" and look for certain names.. Level 1 will have
a name "SysGo" there, Level 2 will have "CC3Go".

With Level 2, you will be able to access numerous windows, You will have to
start them up yourself (the docs should tell you how).  You can switch between
them using the "CLEAR" key.  Then you can start up numerous programs and have
them executing at the same time.  If you have "Flight Simulator" going in one
window, you can switch to another window and if you don't pause the program,
the plane may have crashed, because it will still be going, even though it is
not displayed.  If you want to print out a file to the printer, you can issue
the command "list {filename} >/p" and go to another window and do something
else.  (You can add "&" to the end of the above line and stay in that window
and the printout will proceed, and you can do something else in that window.
This will work with Level 1.

 > I was reading through one of the CoCo magazines that came with this and
 > it talked about all the great things that level 2 could do... sure seemed
 > ahead of its time...

Yes, it was.  It is still pretty up to date, except for the speed on some
tasks, and memory can sometimes be a little tricky for programmers.


 > I have a really silly question about os/9 - how do you get programs to run
 > with it... I have this huge book on OS/9 - it talks about all the great
 > things it can do, but I can't find out how after it's running I can stick
 > in a disk that runs under OS/9 and just run it

Pete Lyall did a good job in answering this question. To recap... OS9
"remembers" 2 directories..  an "execution" directory and a "data" directory.
If you issue the command "dir", OS9 first checks to see if the module (program)
named "dir" is in memory.  If not, it looks at the current "exec" directory to
see if a file by that name exists (the filename does not HAVE to be the same as
the module name, you COULD have a module named "cls" that will clear the
screen.  But, in this case if it is stored in the "exec" dir under the name
"dir" (and "dir" is not in memory), then it will load that file, and clear the
screen.

Lastly, if the file is not found in the execution directory, it will look in
the current "data" directory for a procedure file (same as "batch" file under
MS-Dos), and execute it if found.

You can also specify a specific full pathname for a command.  Suppose you have
2 drives (second drive is "d1").  There is a directory named "FOO" and say, in
that directory, there is a directory "FOO2", and in that directory, a program
(of either type) named "fooey".  You could, without doing a "chx", simply enter
"/d1/FOO/FOO2/fooey" and it will be found.

The best way to get the feel of it is to play with the "dir" command on various
disks.  One other thing.. filenames are not case-sensitive, but one standard
convention, although not required, is to have directory names in all upper-case
and filenames in lowercase.

Sorry to be so windy... just thought this might help.  Be sure you understand
Pete's msg.

                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

         ***  Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
                       ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

#: 20427 S5/OS9 Users Group
    29-Sep-94  22:57:57
Sb: #HELP! OS-9 TAPE C CODE
Fm: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303
To: BOB VAN DER POEL 76510,2203 (X)

BOB,

I got past the initial problem of being able to transfer files to the tape
drive /mt0 by makeing a few system calls. But, now I need to somehow be able to
see the file after I transferred it using <frestore>. I believe the way to do
it is to update the index file. I looked at the the files in the /h0/sys dir
(backup_date etc.) but I am still not sure what needs to be updated and how to
go about it using "C" where it will be transparent to the user. I tried
manually updating one of the log files but when <Frestore> read in the index
file it read in a different date than the file I changed.

I know the file is there I did a <tape -r> but i am not sure how frestore is
supposed to tell what segment I wrote it to.

I would appreciate any hints or help anyone could contribute to the cause!

Thanks again
Rob

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#: 20430 S5/OS9 Users Group
    30-Sep-94  21:33:33
Sb: #20427-HELP! OS-9 TAPE C CODE
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Rob Hilligoss 74503,2303

I'm certainly not a tape drive expert...I just use one to backup my hard drive,
but I've never tried to restore it. However, as I understand it, fsave writes
all the files into a single tape block and you have to use frestore to extract
stuff from an fsave file since normal os9 utilities don't know about the format
fsave uses. Of course, using frestore on something not created by save will be
sure to fail. I don't believe the index portion of the file is ever updated.
fsave just stores the date in backup_dates and uses this on incremental
backups.

Does this help?

#: 20397 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Sep-94  20:51:46
Sb: #20184-RS232
Fm: Dieter G. Rossmann 70314,1766
To: BRIAN P BROCKWAY 76672,3620

Have on RS-232 Deluxe Shack pak...    Best offers, plus shipping...

#: 20398 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Sep-94  20:51:49
Sb: #20184-RS232
Fm: Dieter G. Rossmann 70314,1766
To: BRIAN P BROCKWAY 76672,3620

I have an RS-232 Shack Pack, it is upgraded with the new Rockwell chip, so You
can use a high speed modem with it...   Best offer hgets it.

                                                         Dieter

#: 20383 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    18-Sep-94  05:42:49
Sb: #20334-#Shell+ 2.2a
Fm: Ken Flanagan 75460,2514
To: Curtis boyle 71310,1271 (X)

? /exit


Actually, I ran into the same problem.  I checked TMODE, and noticed in the
wows I was having the problem in, the QUIT had been changed to 09 instead of
05.  I think I had aborted out of a program, so it didn't have the chance to
change the value back.  As soon as I changed it back to 05, it worked like a
charm in any window.  Also, do you know what the new offset is to turn
wildcards on?  I like to have them turned on all the time, so when I noticed
this one came defaulting to off, I checked the 2.1 archive to see what byte the
modpatch changed, went into shell with DED, and noticed the value wasn't
correct.  As well, have the 2 bytes been fixed for the 8K of memory that shell
used to grab for each process it called?

Thanks.

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#: 20431 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    30-Sep-94  21:36:08
Sb: #20383-Shell+ 2.2a
Fm: Curtis boyle 71310,1271
To: Ken Flanagan 75460,2514

     I'll have to get home to check the Shellplus Source code (I am phoning
from work) to find the new offset for the wildcarding option. And no, the 8K
memory grab by shell hasn't been changed (I usually need it for big wildcard
searches & the like).

#: 20390 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    22-Sep-94  00:02:42
Sb: #Shell+ 2.2a
Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
To: Curtis Boyle 71310,1271 (X)

Curtis,

Some further comments on Shell+ 2.2a. First, the crashing problem disappeared
when I reinstalled it, so something must have glitched the first time. As for
the extra "." at the beginning of a command line following a BREAK, this does
not always happen. It appears to happen in windows opened with the TYPE
utility, but not with windows opened with shell i=/wx&. Doing a TMODE on the
two different windows doesn't show any difference, so I've no idea what the
difference could be. Also, if I open a subshell (by just typing SHELL) in a
window which does NOT have the problem, the subshell DOES have the problem.
This includes /term. Any ideas?

Ian

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#: 20432 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    30-Sep-94  21:39:57
Sb: #20390-Shell+ 2.2a
Fm: Curtis boyle 71310,1271
To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)

   Glad it works better when you reinstalled it. I tried the Shell from a Shell
here at work, and it does do the '.' thing again. (I had never thought to try
that, but I will have to look into it.)

#: 20406 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    27-Sep-94  19:24:46
Sb: #OS9 on COCO2?
Fm: Paul Harris 70004,574
To: All

Can you run OS9 on the COCO II with 64K?  Thanks!!

                -- Paul --

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#: 20409 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Sep-94  08:50:24
Sb: #20406-#OS9 on COCO2?
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Paul Harris 70004,574 (X)

Paul,

Of course....that is the original CoCo OS-9 machine.

Mark

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#: 20411 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Sep-94  10:38:18
Sb: #20409-#OS9 on COCO2?
Fm: Paul Harris 70004,574
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Thanks Mark,

Ok now where do I find CoCo OS9 for mine. :)  Thanks!!!

                -- Paul --

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#: 20420 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    29-Sep-94  08:58:00
Sb: #20411-OS9 on COCO2?
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Paul Harris 70004,574 (X)

Paul,

You might try special ordering it from a Radio Shack store.  I understand there
are still some copies available.  Otherwise, someone on this forum may have a
copy that you can get from them.  That's about the only way anymore.

Good luck! Mark

#: 20389 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    21-Sep-94  01:10:24
Sb: #20205-HP500 dump
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: John Strong 72270,1555


 > Painter (SPAINT) has a DeskJet 500 dump.  I did it in landscape format.
 > and dithered the colors to 32 level gray scale, not too bad looking,
 > however the aspect ratio is a bit off compared to CM-8 on my MM/1.

 >  BTW, how is your battleship game comming along?

   John,
       I really havn't done anything with the Battleship game since the
   Fest, this printer driver stuff is pretty much all I have been working on.

     Every time I think I have got something that seems to be behaving
   correctly, I'll try just one more picture, and another problem crops up.

   I hope to upload the current version by this weekend, and spread the
   frustration around <g>. Seriously, this version should work with all
   300 dpi hp color and b&w inkjets, and hp lasers. Depending on the size
   of the picture or screen, the program uses one of three dither matrix's
   42, 56 or 72.


   larry

----- Larry Olson -----

#: 20359 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Sep-94  17:43:24
Sb: #20356-Screen Bug
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Ahhh great!

No ... the source is long gone I hear.

Mark unloaded all his computer stuff to the guy who's picking up the repair
tasks for David Graham. Can't recall his name off the top of my head, Mark
never gave me the soruce to this version.



*- Steve -*


#: 20364 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Sep-94  23:54:27
Sb: #20345-#Screen Bug
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

This is getting more confused.

I had another look at the sterm source. The code which saves stuff to a file
strips out extra LFs. Did a bit of fiddling and discovered that when I do a
AT&V to get my modem settings (a good test to duplicate the bug), the modem is
returning LF/CR pairs. So, that is why a write() to the terminal works.

Still doesn't explain why 'pro' doesn't work.

Decided to try it on my other system. 'Pro' aborts immediately with a 102 error
on the system with SSM. So, I have made a quick assumtion...'pro' does
something nasty to something in the system which prevents it from working
properly <g>. Sorry...but nothing else really makes sense. I know it appears to
be SCREEN, but with everything else working properly and no source to track
things down, I really don't know where to even start to look. If anyone can
point me to something...I'll look!

BTW, good old sterm works fine with SSM.

Hmmm, just decided to do a few more tests:

1. If I hook up a terminal to the mm/1 and run screen and 'pro' I get the same
bug.

2. However, if I turn my MVME machine (with SSM) into a terminal (what a low
thing to do <g>) and run screen on the MVME and then run COM to hook up to the
mm/1 and then run 'pro' on the mm/1 remotely, all works fine. Again, I suspect
that 'pro' is hitting something in screen/ptyman????


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#: 20366 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    13-Sep-94  07:56:34
Sb: #20364-#Screen Bug
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Thanks for taking the time to even look, Bob. I know it's almost impossible
without the source ....

And in speaking with Mark, it's obvious that he has no intention of pursuing
this product, so I'd say don't waste any more time on it. Sterm_1.5 works fine
for my purposes. I was concerned about PRO only because it might have uncovered
another problem with screen/ptyman. It could also very well be it's own
problem!  :-)



*- Steve -*


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#: 20368 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Sep-94  00:26:20
Sb: #20366-#Screen Bug
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Okay, if you really can't find any more bugs with screen, then I guess I'll
upload what I have later this week. Complete with source, of course...and then
some other sap can play with it <g>.

Speaking of Mark, I wonder if he has any intention of fixing my mm/1 i/o
board...he's had my $50 since xmas. Maybe I better write him a terse note.


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#: 20370 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Sep-94  07:56:46
Sb: #20368-#Screen Bug
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

You may want to do more than that ... perhaps a phone call is in order before
things go too far astray. When he and I last talked, he told me that he's sold
all of his MM/1 stuff ... parts, boards, everything along with his MM/1 so he's
completely out of the business.

I'm sure he's kept your board separate, but ...

He also mentioned that proceeds from the sale would be used to refund the
unused portions of subscriptions to his magazine ... now also out of
production.

*- Steve -*


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#: 20372 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Sep-94  21:25:49
Sb: #20370-Screen Bug
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

>You may want to do more than that ... perhaps a phone call is in order before
>things go too far astray.

I've tried a number of calls. No luck. I do have a "loaner" board...so it is
not the end of the world. But I just don't like to get ripped off, even if it
is only fifty bucks. Frankly, I'm surprised that Mark is acting this way...I
think he is basically honest, but, for some reason, has gotten really turned
off of the OS9 crowd (which is his right). I'm sure that it is just a matter
 of making my 50 a priority.

#: 20369 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Sep-94  04:33:52
Sb: #OGRE UPLOAD
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: SYSOP (X)

 SYSOP,

 I just received the following message from Stephen Carville regarding
 OGRE I uploaded to Lib 12.

 > Ed,
 >
 > Sorry about this.  I just recieved E-mail from Jim Pruyne regarding Ogre:
 >
 >>Unfortunately, I can't keep this submission.  A while ago, I had an Ogre
 >>like game on the server, but I received e-mail directly from Steve Jackson
 >>Games saying that they were enforcing their copyright on Ogre, and would not
 >>allow any Ogre like software to be distributed.  I don't know how strong
 >>their claim would be, but I'm in no position to test them :).
 >
 >If you haven't posted it to compuserve please don't.  If you have, I gues it
 >needs to be removed.
 >
 >Stephen

 So, it will have to be removed.  Sorry 'bout that.

 Thanks,

 Ed

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#: 20371 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Sep-94  07:56:52
Sb: #20369-OGRE UPLOAD
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)

All taken care of, Ed.


*- Steve -*


#: 20381 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    17-Sep-94  14:45:51
Sb: PostScript Utils
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To:  all

Attention PostScript/Ghostscript & TeX/LaTeX/dvips users.

I have just uploaded a few handy utilities to help manage PostScript files.
With these utilities, you can shuffle pages, set up for book or booklet (both
sides) printing, resize documents etc.

I found them while wandering around Internet.

Compiled on my MM/1a - should run on other OSK boxes.

(Source included - GNU/FSF-type distribution)

If you use PostScript, you gotta have these.

If you don't use PostScript, don't bother -- they are no good for anything else
-- except maybe as examples of C programs that rewrite text files.

Look for "psutils" in a few days.


           ********************************
       A stitch in time --------------------
               ------ is worth two in the bush

 John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>

#: 20384 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    18-Sep-94  16:09:30
Sb: SCREEN
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: all

I have uploaded the newest source and binaries for SCREEN to lib 12. Give the
sysop a few days...then you'll be sure to the new one since I just left the
desc. etc. the same. Let me know if any more problems. Feel free to repost to
other places.


#: 20385 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    18-Sep-94  21:41:13
Sb: #LHA 2.01
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: all

Does anyone have a copy of lha version 2.01? Someone just sent me the uucp
stuff on a disk and the readmes state that this is the only version which will
dearc them. They are right. I have version 2.06 and it scrambles them quite
nicely. I deleted the old version I had a long time ago since I figured that
2.06 would handle 2.01 files just fine <g>.


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#: 20386 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    19-Sep-94  08:21:03
Sb: #20385-#LHA 2.01
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

Watch your mailbox ...



*- Steve -*


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#: 20388 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    20-Sep-94  19:35:39
Sb: #20386-LHA 2.01
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Thanks. Funny how we have to keep old versions around.

#: 20421 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    29-Sep-94  12:47:23
Sb: I could use a favor
Fm: Daniel Cyran 73750,1020
To: all

Help please;

Some time ago I picked up a 'junked' 68000 machine that HAD OS9/68000
installed.  I say 'HAD'  because when I was fooling around I, huh, learned how
to delete my CMDS directory/files, and I have never been able to awake the
beast since.

I live in NYC and wounder if anyone has a 3.5" single sided floppy boot disk
and maybe a utility to reclaim these files.  As far as I know I never wrote nor
copied anything to the disk at any time, and that they still should be viable.

I'm open to most suggestions; thanks. 

#: 20429 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    30-Sep-94  17:27:01
Sb: PowerPC
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: emmelmann

 > Will OS9 in future run on PowerPC processors ?

 MW is working on a port of OS9000 for the PowerPC.  I don't have complete
 details of the hardware but I understand they have machines from IBM and
 VME boards from Motorola.  May have others as well.  They haven't announced
 any release date.

Press <CR> !>