From: DEATH FENNEC        
To: SINDAR              
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/29/91 19:47:07
Message Number 17202

SI>  See you on the other side of the doggy door.
 
   Are you feeling all right.  Do you think that you can drive that far
and be ok?  Hmm.  Anyways, onto the next quote.
 
SI>  No Mushy Mushys.
 
     Hmm.  I think that you need to see a shrink.  I do not know if you
are going to be able to make it out to California or not.  Then again, I
suppose that it cannot be any worse than the way that Tyler drives! :)
Just kidding, (I think!)  Hmm.  Anyways, I guess that we are going to be
having one hell of a blast when we get out there.  Hmm.  Well, I do not 
know what the future holds, except for a few things, like I will be get-
ting into a relationship with Two females, and well, I will talk to you 
about this at a later time ... Anyways, I shall be going for now.  Bye
bye! :)
 
 
      /! Death Fennec -- ;>
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From: RUFUS               
To: SINDAR              
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/29/91 22:17:51
Message Number 17211

Are you leaving /this/ Friday, as in the 31st?  I thought the third
Muskateer had final exams, or am I just being a silly Rufus again?  
SLAP!  Yes, you are being a silly Rufus.  SLAP!
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: ALL                 
Subject: They who wonder
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:01:50
Message Number 17212

   In case you're wondering,
   No, I'm not leaving Sarasota this summer. (Yeah!)
   No, I'm not in the same dorm room over the summer. (Drat!)  I'm
over in a different residential community over the summer... ya want
directions? Send E-mail, or call me at 355-6861.
   Yup, the modem works.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: hi, I'm back.  
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:18:00
Message Number 17213

>and you wouldn't believe the number of chicks I've ******* since I
>got the car...
     
   Ah! So we're into beastiality now, are we?  Trust me: stick with
full-grown chickens.  They're much more fun.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: JONBOY              
Subject: Republicans    
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:21:23
Message Number 17214

>Too bad alternative parties have such a tough time breaking ground.
    
   To break ground, an alternative party needs lots of money.  Any
group that has lots of money wants to maintain the status quo.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: chocolate      
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:23:52
Message Number 17215

Bee-youtiful description of gourmet chocolate, especially the last line.
Swiss chocolate is wonderful, but all that most Americans ever meet
is Toblerone.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: beliefs        
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:25:56
Message Number 17216

I see no reason why records should not be labelled with something like:
    
   WARNING: This record contains profane language, sexual imagery,
and intelligent lyrics.
    
   Heck -- it would tell the younger buyers which albums to purchase
immediately...
   
   More seriously, if such a label were part of the cover (and not just
the cellophane wrapping), it would be obvious to parents which albums
their child bought that may not be up to their standards.  Such 
voluntary labels would NOT be censorship, any more than listing 
ingredients in a package would restrict the quality of pre-packaged
foods.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: beliefs        
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:30:59
Message Number 17217

Hey!  Don't pick on George Will!  Even if he does wear bow-ties.
     
   On the other hand, Rush Limbaugh deserves all the jokes he gets.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Religion       
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:33:18
Message Number 17218

Sorry, Rufus.  It's not from your school.  (Actually, the original had
"trouble" in for "shit," but I like the later version!)
   It's from some American philosopher -- and I can't remember his
name.  It got reprinted in U.S. News and World Report.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:35:41
Message Number 17219

  Although some of my friends are fireflies, I am NOT one.  Nor
do I glow in the dark.  Just got my wings a little crispier in the
microwave, thank you.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: beliefs        
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:38:01
Message Number 17220

I always find it interesting how many pages of information a newspaper
has, and that CNN needs to repeat itself every hour.  Hmmmm....
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: DEATH FENNEC        
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/30/91 00:39:58
Message Number 17221

You're leaving us?  *SNIFF!*  Well, see ya, old chum.  Good luck in
fair California, and keep in touch!
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 05/30/91 02:24:26
Message Number 17223

>...if they continually hear this stuff on TV and the radio...it just
>becomes acceptable to them to say those things and think about the
>implications of the songs.
 
By "say those things," I assume you mean use the colorful metaphors and
expletives in the songs...to which I say "So what?" There is no such
thing, and I mean /no/ such thing, as a "dirty" word. A word gets its
meaning only from the society of the people who use it and the context
its used in. Who cares if some word for sexual intercourse becomes
acceptable to people? If this happens, it is no longer "dirty" at all,
is it?
 
As for thinking about the implications of the songs: If they were raised
to believe that those implications are wrong, ie, that women are not to
be treated as objects, etc, then once they start thinking about the
implications of the songs they will probably stop listening to them. The
idea that children get their morality and sense of ethics from pop music
is downright silly. If the idea isn't there to begin with, they aren't
gonna get it from a song, and if they were /not/ raised to believe that
the ideas expressed in the song are wrong, they'd probably behave badly
regardless of whether or not they ever listened to the music, hmm?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 05/30/91 02:33:03
Message Number 17224

>...how many cranks did it take you to start your car engine back
>then?
 
Don't laugh; I've done it. To a Bug. I needed to get somewhere, see,
and my starter motor was fried, and the fan pulley nut is the same
size as a lugnut, so...I used the lugwrench on the fan pulley. Damn near
took my friggin' arm off, too. It was a lot O' work, but it started
the car...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Stuff          
Date & Time: 05/30/91 02:38:49
Message Number 17225

The following people really ought to think about posting in the
Den soon:
 
Scott Steel
The Specialist (I don't know if your character was close enough to over-
                hear the conversation between Tampa and Shandra, but the
                odds are good that he was...)
Saavik
Opus
 
Ya know?
===========

From: MAXIMILION          
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: verbal abuse   
Date & Time: 05/30/91 11:34:14
Message Number 17226

   In the series of t"This is your brain on drugs" things, I saw a new
posters at Camelot the other day...labeled "What if famous people's 
brains were on drugs"....Mikhail Gorbechev with the runny yolk that
looked like the birthmark on his head, Ted Bundy's extra fried, Ronald
Reagans' Scrambled, etc.... Most humourous....hahahah
 
 
                                            -Pete
===========

From: KEN SABLE           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/30/91 13:00:12
Message Number 17228

I do have finals ... But I have requested that we wait until Wed. for
our departure ... I'm not sure what Sindar is deciding, but since he
-is- my only transportation, I'll have to go with what he decides.  I 
think he is willing to wait until Wed. (Which is when school ends for
me.)
 
  --- Sable
===========

From: DEATH FENNEC        
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/30/91 15:50:01
Message Number 17229

   Gee, tanx ... Hmm.  Oh well, it seems that there are a few problems
that have come up, that we do not think are helping the situation much
at all.  Therefore, it will be a little bit longer than what we had been
expecting.  Hmm.  Oh well.  Anyways, C-Ya! :)
 
 
     /! Death Fennec -- ;>
===========

From: SINDAR              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/30/91 16:07:27
Message Number 17232

  Exams...fuck, I aint even going to school anymore dude....let
alone exams.....third muskateer....grrrr arf, ou shall be hung
by your eye lashs over molten lava...
 
   Sindar
===========

From: SINDAR              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 05/30/91 16:10:29
Message Number 17233

   > but it started the car...
 
   Ok yeah, but did the rubber band break? :)
 
               Sindar
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Religion       
Date & Time: 05/30/91 18:14:14
Message Number 17236

Bloody hell!  Do you know if it's in the public domain or whatnot.  
I'd really like to publish it in QV...
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: AL                  
Subject: *yawn  ^pop^*  
Date & Time: 05/30/91 18:39:41
Message Number 17237

  The former First Mate sets his mug down, having noticed that none of
the barmaids or bartenders seems in the least interested in giving him
"another one of these".  
  It occured to him to wonder about how he was going to get off this 
island.  After all, not too many pirate ships are interested in signing
on a "former" First Mate.  And besides, did he really feel like going 
back to pirating?  He looked over to the bunnymorph, who was looking
quite frankly bored.  
  "You know," he says to her, "you haven't said practically word one.
If I didn't know better, I'd think that you were bored."  She looks 
suprised, raises her eyebrows.  
  And another thing that's bothering him...there are assorted murmurings
around here about "trouble brewing"...and while he could take care of 
himself, he just plain didn't give a care about anyone else in here. So,
he concluded mentally, why stick around and fight a battle which wasn't
his? 
  Because he had no way of leaving, and this establishment was for al
practical purposes going to be his home until he could make up his mind
about where he was going next.  And how.  He frowns, and the bunnymorph
gets up, moves behind him, and starts massaging his back.  "Y'know,
this situation never would have occured at the Wyvern's Den."  The bunny
murmurs something in response, and continues working his neck.  He 
couldn't quite be sure, but it sounded like she had said, "It's your
fault." 
  He spins around sharply, throwing her hands off.  "What did you say?"
  She gives him another suprised look.  "I said, 'It's alright'." She
blinks.
  He takes her hands. "Sorry.  Can I get a raincheck on this encounter?"
She nods.  
  He gets up and wanders over to Shandra.
  "Hello," he says by way of greeting. "Need some help?"
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: chocolate      
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:02:49
Message Number 17239

Whew: not a man to be wishy-washy about his opinions on chocolate!!
Re Hershey's, have you tried its "Symphony">...very good (in this
person's opinion)....also, the best chocolate I ever tasted was
Baker's Milk Chocolate (I don't think they make it any more: they
still make baking choc. and semi-sweet, but haven't seen Milk in
20 years)...second best is Godiva...or maybe one of the Northern
European chocolates (Droste comes to mind....mmmmm)....

===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: music          
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:05:21
Message Number 17240

Hahahaha.....Geez...."Horse with no name" motivated me to steal a
horse and go riding in the desert....
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Picnick Date   
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:06:17
Message Number 17241

Yes, you are 100% correct (as opposed to 88% correct)...thank you:
 
      PICNICK:::::::::SATURDAY, JUNE 8th, 10 AM to NOON:::::::::::
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:07:27
Message Number 17242

Yes, if they _continually_ hear those songs, but that's where
parental influence influences: you can't keep the kids from
NEVER hearing a particular piece of music, but you CAN keep
them from continually hearing it....
When a teen, I loved R&R - Elvis, "Earth Angel"....etc.....and
I still don't dis-like that, but I also love classical, modern
jazz, etc.....so my early music experiences didn't turn me off
to "serious" music.... 
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: speed of board 
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:09:51
Message Number 17243

I think it's your imagination: or should I re-set my modem to 2400????
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 05/30/91 21:10:38
Message Number 17244

Heheheh....I can't include "bee ridge extension" but the rest, I can
definitely relate to!! Drive-ins.....wow.... :)
===========

From: KNIGHT OWL          
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: chocolate      
Date & Time: 05/31/91 04:18:55
Message Number 17245

Yes, Toblerone is good... Mmmmmmmm.....
 There is a variety of imported chocolates available at Wunderbar at the
Sarasota Square Mall. They had some /real/ swiss hot cocoa that I would
have bought if I had the $. 
 
L8R!
-a Knight Owl that bites the head off first on those chocolate rabbits.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 05/31/91 19:35:51
Message Number 17251

T> If they were raised to believe that those implications are wrong...
T> then once they start thinking about the implications of the songs
T> they will probably stop listening to them.
    
   Turtle, you never went against your parents' wishes simply to
go against their wishes?  You never rebelled just for the sake of
rebellion?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: KEN SABLE           
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/31/91 19:38:18
Message Number 17252

Great ta see you're still here!  (Though you'd left.)  
                        //Dragonfly//
P.S. You've got E-mail.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Religion       
Date & Time: 05/31/91 19:43:03
Message Number 17254

Yup!  It's in the public domain.  But if ya publish it in QV, be
sure to star out at least one character per line.  (Maybe spell
"shit" as "shi*"?)
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: isnlsdg        
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:16:41
Message Number 17255

TS>Ah, yes...buy me this, buy me that...money, money, money. 
 
And you just say.... "No, No, No....." And you get.... "Wah! Wah! Wah!" 
Ain't kids great?! 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Maas Library,ha
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:18:26
Message Number 17256

What about this.... I got a library book thats, like, 8 years overdue.
                       I lost it. I admit it.
So I haven't been to our local library in 8 years...... think the new 
computer program may have forgotten who I am? 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:21:02
Message Number 17257

Yeah, I know what ya mean...... Valarie is walking around singing...
...."I don't want anybody else, when I think about you I touch myself"
    Oh, Great!!!! 
Oh, and she's been imitating Paula Abdul...... which at least is better 
than the "crotch grabbing" Madonna, eh? 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:23:22
Message Number 17258

SN>....how many cranks did it take you to start your car.....
 
Hmmmm, coming from the guy who has a 1967 Mustang parked in his drive
way......... I dunno.... How many Gerbils does it take to run those 
things...??? 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: verbal abuse   
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:24:49
Message Number 17259

SN>......like Mother, like children....sounds like your mentality
   level there, Saavik.....
 
Naw, My kids are smarter than I am.... they aren't hanging around with 
YOU!!!!!! 
 
SN>...Queen of all that Bitches... 
 
And don't you forget it!!!!! 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: Religious Logic
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:26:47
Message Number 17260

A race between Thumper and Turtle???? Naw...., Thumper's too lazy.... 
It would be like a remake of the Tortoise and the Hare.... Thumper would
take a nap somewhere along the line.... and you know Turtle, he'd just 
use his "leap" thingie and probably end up in New Jersey somewhere..... 
looking for a mead. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: Pentacon       
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:28:46
Message Number 17261

SN> Yeah sure Saavik.... and the Arf God eats cat food..... 
 
Gee, that's something I thought you'd never admit..... but I saw those
empty cans of Friskies in your garbage can. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: back...        
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:30:11
Message Number 17262

SA>how did you (Jonboy) break your toe.....
 
SN>Probably by kicking some lady who asked stupid questions like 
   "How did you break your toe..." 
 
You can be replaced, you know, your Arfness.......... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:32:11
Message Number 17263

If you guys think for one minute that you are going /anywhere/ without
"mushy mushys" from Saavik, you are seriously mistaken!!!!!! 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:36:23
Message Number 17264

One question, can a Dragonfly with crispy wings still fly? Or are you 
forever grounded now...... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: beliefs        
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:37:20
Message Number 17265

Have you ever flipped channels during the "news hour" on the local 
networks...(of course you have....) It's amazing, the same stories, just
different anchorpeople..... but what's strange is the different way they
each present that same story...... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:39:17
Message Number 17266

T>If they were raised to believe that those implications are wrong....
then once they start thinking about the implications of the songs they
will probably stop listening to them. 
 
You have obviously been around /very/ few children. I'm talking 8 year 
olds here..... if Joe Schmoe down the street thinks the song is cool, 
and Little Tommy thinks that Joe Schmoe is cool, then Little Tommy 
is going to listen to the song whether he A)understands it...B)agrees 
with it's implications... or not. 
Welcome to Peer pressure 101.....your instructer is Life. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:43:02
Message Number 17267

T>I used the lugwrench on the fan pulley.... 
 
Just what exactly /works/ on the bug.... I mean besides the new ignition
switch...... 
 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: MAXIMILION          
Subject: verbal abuse   
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:45:19
Message Number 17268

They left out one on the poster at Camelot "What if famous people's 
brains were on drugs".... 
.... Ronald McDonald in an Egg McMuffin. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:47:01
Message Number 17269

Don't you snap at Rufus!!!! Would you rather he'd said "Mousekateers?"
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:50:06
Message Number 17270

I suppose you are right about the songs NOT influencing children over 
the long term basis.... I mean, I listened to "disco" when I was a teen
and I turned out OK..... uh,....... OH NOOOOOO!!!!! I'm going to burn 
every Rap cassette in the house!!!!!! 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: speed of board 
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:51:45
Message Number 17271

No..... do not adjust your monitor, do not adjust your modem..... and 
welcome to the twighlight zone.... 
.... the board is still running at 1200 baud.... but this program sure 
is running better alla sudden... Our shelled one must have been tinkerin
on it.... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:53:13
Message Number 17272

....ah... I remember Drive In's well... 4 in the car and 4 in the trunk.
I had this huge Buick (a 61 Invicta (sp?) that got like 7 miles to the 
gallon on a good day). We could smuggle a bunch of friends in that!!!!!,
AND a cooler. 
  
The Bee Ridge extension was the place we all went to race..... fun... bu
but dangerous..... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 05/31/91 20:55:50
Message Number 17273

DrF>Turtle, you never went against your parents' wishes simply to 
     go against their wishes? 
 
Touche! He must have been a "Rebel without a Shell" at some time in his 
life. 
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: isnlsdg        
Date & Time: 05/31/91 23:03:23
Message Number 17274

SA>And you get... "Wah!  Wah!  Wah!"  Ain't kids great?
 
Oh, yeah.  Really.  I just |love| 'em.  I hope anyone else has a million
of 'em.  I can't wait for my own.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 00:34:55
Message Number 17275

>Turtle, you have never gone against your parents' wishes simply to go
>against their wishes?
 
You are missing my point. If parents raise their children to believe tha
the values and ideals expressed in the type of music Saavik objects to
are wrong, then those parents do not /have/ to forbid their children to
listen to the music. Therefore, the children in question will not listen
to the music to rebel, since they won't be rebelling by doing it. You
cannot rebel against a restriction that does not exist.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 00:38:50
Message Number 17276

>You have obviously been around /very/ few children...Peer Pressure...
 
If the child does not understand the implications of the song, it
doesn't matter if he listens to it or not. It might as well be in
Swahili for all the impact it's gonna have. If, on the other hand, the
child /is/ old enough/mature enough to understand the implications of
the song, and also has been brought up to believe that the ideals in the
song are wrong, it's rather unlikely that he's going to suddenly trash
all his ideals and upbringing to go out and start behaving like the song
tells him to regardless of how "cool" he thinks it is. People don't work
that way. If they did, all you'd have to do is record a song about
listening to your parents and cleaning up your room ands all the
problems facing parents today would evaporate, yesno?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/01/91 00:42:38
Message Number 17277

>Just what exactly /works/ on the bug...
 
Right now, everything except the carburetor and the brakes. It runs,
although it idles fast and rough; it just don't stop very well. But that
problem ought to be fixed by the time you read this...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 00:44:21
Message Number 17278

>[Turtle] must have been a "rebel without a shell" at some time in his
>life.
 
Not really; I never had very strict parents, so I never went through the
ritualistic bad-attitude rebellious pubescent teen thing. I just got
into the habit of staying away from the house a lot; I'd leave the
house Friday morning and come back Monday night, and my mother would
say something like "You weren't around all weekend so I vacuumed your
rug." My parents always figured I was smart enough to get myself out of
any trouble I got myself into...and if not, well, call it a learning
experience.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: islands dog    
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:33:42
Message Number 17280

>Ain't kids great?!
     
   "Mommy doesn't love me because Mommy won't buy me a Super Bat-Man
Cape with real grappling hooks and twenty secret compartments! Waaah!
And it only costs $250.99!"
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:36:05
Message Number 17281

Immediately stop her from listening to Paula Abdul!  I know that Ms.
Abdul LIKES Rush Limbaugh's radio show!
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:37:49
Message Number 17282

This Dragonfly still buzzes around... but he looks even more like a 
Krispy Kritter to some other swamp creatures.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: beliefs        
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:38:48
Message Number 17283

Yup.  Though it's easier to compare newspaper stories.  There's not
really any unbiased sources of news around.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 01:41:45
Message Number 17284

But wouldn't normal parents think that listening to the music is an
act of rebellion against those values?  Wouldn't the child use it as
such?  
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: RED DRAGON          
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Software Trade 
Date & Time: 06/01/91 04:39:54
Message Number 17285

We got your number from an issue of Furry Bytes, and were wondering if
you would be interested in software exchange.  I represent a new BBS
that will go online in October from Okinawa, Japan. 'NightCity'
CYBERFURRIES!!!  We will except any kind of programs in exchange for
just about any kind of program you can think of! (Non-Commercial please)
We will be using an APO in SF, CA for our home address, so mailing costs
will be very low.  We can read IBM 5.25 DS/DD, 3.5 DS/DD and Amiga 800k
3.5's so you can mail us in any one of those formats.  We will call back
here Tuesday night, If you leave your address, we will send you a sample
of some of our stuff.  We also will have Japanimation VHS tapes!
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: isnlsdg        
Date & Time: 06/01/91 10:59:12
Message Number 17286

Come on, Dave.... You know that there are more to kids than just 
"Buy me, buy me.. Wah Wah Wah!!"  There are a lot of good things too
and as soon as I think of a few.....I'll post them... 
 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:01:19
Message Number 17287

T>If parents raise their children to believe that the values and ideals 
expressed in the type of music Saavik objects to are wrong, then those
parents do not /have/ to forbid their children to listen to the music. 
Therefore, the children in question will not listen to the music to 
rebel, since they won't be rebelling by doing it. 
 
Ah, if only it were that easy, Turtle.....but it's not. It's really not.
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:04:24
Message Number 17288

It's not that the implications are going to "suddenly" make the child 
run out and do something completely out of character, Turtle. It's just 
...ok.... some of the Two Live Crew lyrics..... blather about fucking 
and pussy and dick and all that..... now, my 8 year old has heard that 
before..... he knows that you don't go around saying these things.... 
but now he's heard this rap tune... with those words in it.... he hums 
it.... he sings it with his friends.... it's cool... even though he know
I DON'T LIKE IT..... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:07:30
Message Number 17289

By chance does that bug have a name yet? You really ought to give it 
a title.... besides "The Bug." 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:08:23
Message Number 17290

How fortunate you were not like a billion other kids whose parents put 
no restrictions on them... I believe that most of them are doing time 
some where... or in drug rehab.... or down at Palms Memorial about 
six feet under. 
 
My sister raised her last one like that....... he ended up really 
screwed up.... and in therapy... his words to her were.... you never 
cared what I did..... I did bad things to make you care..... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: islands dog    
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:10:49
Message Number 17291

DrF>"Mommy doesn't love me because Mommy won't buy me......." 
 
Actually, you know, I must say my kids know the meaning of "I don't have
the money to buy that."  Even though they are only 8 and 4... they don't
toss fits when I say "No." to something they want me to buy. They are 
pretty reasonable about most things. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:13:08
Message Number 17292

I can't stop her from listening and watching Paula Abdul... it's too 
cute... you should see her trying to dance like that. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:14:02
Message Number 17293

DrF>This Dragonfly still buzzes around...but he looks even more like a 
    Krispy Kritter to some other swamp creatures. 
 
Good thing we don't have any Kritters that eat insects in here... oh, 
hmmm. Do Turtles eat Dragonflys???? Hmmm. well, at least there aren't 
any Frogs about. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: beliefs        
Date & Time: 06/01/91 11:16:13
Message Number 17294

DrF> There's not really any unbiased sources of news around. 
 
Well, you could always call Compuserve and read the news...... at what? 
$$$$$ an hour. 
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: isnlsdg        
Date & Time: 06/01/91 17:30:10
Message Number 17295

SA>Come on, Dave...You know that there are more to kids than just...
SA>...there are a lot of good things, too and as soon as I think of
SA>a few...I'll post them...
 
At any rate, I'm sure that the things that you could think of could be
only considered good to a parent...tho...I await your pleasure...
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/01/91 21:27:45
Message Number 17296

Hahahaha.. (re rap music)..... Hey, will you be at the Picnick?
BTW, check message re different LOCATION of picnick!
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: speed of board 
Date & Time: 06/01/91 21:28:52
Message Number 17297

Ahhh....well, I may soon sell my 2400 bauder...hmmmmm... :)
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/01/91 21:29:35
Message Number 17298

Ahhhh, I grew up where there was an equivalent to Bee Ridge Extension:
a road where no one went, almost no crossroads...we used to race there
too...I had a '56 Olds (well, my dad's).... Ah, fond memories...
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: ALL                 
Subject: Picnick LOCATIO
Date & Time: 06/01/91 21:31:00
Message Number 17299

Our upcoming Picnick LOCATION has been changed: new location will
be posted here tomorrow at about 2:30 PM....(close by, tho!)
===========

From: KEN SABLE           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 06/02/91 00:22:10
Message Number 17300

Naaww .. I'm not in California yet ... Ah well, anyways, I got the 
message about the Con a TEENSY WEENY BIT too late ... Oh well, 
anyways, bye bye
 
 -- Sable
===========

From: SINDAR              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/02/91 12:06:42
Message Number 17302

   > coming from a guy who owns a Mustang/ sitting in drive way...
  
     True...but it is in the garage. And it is only in the garage
because it leaks. Ok, I admit, its a piece of sh*t...major...
     I do belivev that it is a whopping 5 Hamster power.
 
                        Sindar
===========

From: SINDAR              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: back...        
Date & Time: 06/02/91 12:09:57
Message Number 17303

 Saav> You can be replaced your arfness....
 
     Naw...ya said it yourself.....Arf Gods are ferever....
    
                                   Sindar
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: ALL                 
Subject: NEW PICNICK INF
Date & Time: 06/02/91 14:34:45
Message Number 17304

NEW INFORMATION for our Sarasota Monthly Indoor...
 
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 PP       IIII   CCCCC  NN   NN   IIII   CCCCC  KK   KK   !!
 
     Sponsored by Suncoast City BBS and Wyvern's Den BBS
       (Wyvern's Den 'in absentia' temporarily)
 
Incredible giveaways, Incredible food, Incredible talk!
 
NEW TIME:  When?  Saturday, June 7th, 11 AM to Noon
NEW PLACE: Walt's Fish Market, Rt.301 b'twn 5th & 6th St (East side)
 
 Who?   ALL callers, sysops, friends, spouses, etc.
 Why?   Because there will be great giveaways, great conversation
        and an inexpensive fun time!! (Last Picnick 'til FALL!!)
 
   For more details, call Suncoast City at (813)953-5505
 
You'll like Walts - costs about a buck more for lunch, but well
worth it! Plenty of room, nice atmosphere....see you'all there!
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: ALL                 
Subject: new info!      
Date & Time: 06/02/91 14:36:30
Message Number 17305

NEW INFORMATION for our Sarasota Monthly Indoor...
 
 PPPPP    IIII   CCCCC  NN   NN   IIII   CCCCC  KK   KK   !!
 PP  PP    II   CC   CC NNN  NN    II   CC   CC KK  KK    !!
 PP  PP    II   CC      NNNN NN    II   CC      KK KK     !!
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 PP        II   CC      NN  NNN    II   CC      KK KK     !!
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 PP       IIII   CCCCC  NN   NN   IIII   CCCCC  KK   KK   !!
 
     Sponsored by Suncoast City BBS and Wyvern's Den BBS
       (Wyvern's Den 'in absentia' temporarily)
 
Incredible giveaways, Incredible food, Incredible talk!
 
NEW TIME:  When?  Saturday, June 7th, 11 AM to Noon
NEW PLACE: Walt's Fish Market, Rt.301 b'twn 5th & 6th St (East side)
 
 Who?   ALL callers, sysops, friends, spouses, etc.
 Why?   Because there will be great giveaways, great conversation
        and an inexpensive fun time!! (Last Picnick 'til FALL!!)
 
   For more details, call Suncoast City at (813)953-5505
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SYSOP               
Subject: picnick        
Date & Time: 06/02/91 14:37:22
Message Number 17306

Hi - note my last message: the picnick will be at ELEVEN AM to
Noon (or later)...at Walt's Fish Market - they also have chicken,
salads, etc.... Please put out the word (so to speak)....see ya
there...!!(?)!
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: is nails dug   
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:24:16
Message Number 17307

S> You know that there are more to kids than just "Buy me, buy me..
S> Wah Wah Wah!!"
    
   Hmmm... how much did you pay for your children when you bought
them?   
                        //Dragonfly//
    
   P.S. And did you get them on a blue light special?
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:26:48
Message Number 17308

How 'bout "The Splattered Bug"?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:27:29
Message Number 17309

S> His words to her were... you never cared what 	I did... I did bad
S> things to make you care...
     
   Precisely.  Some parents put no restrictions on their children
because they don't care.  But one doesn't mean the other.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:29:48
Message Number 17310

No, so far as I know, Turtles don't eat Dragonflies.  But there's 
enough OTHER predators out there to make us go crazy.
    
   Sheesh... why does Nature hate a pacifist?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: beliefs        
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:31:22
Message Number 17311

I included the A.P. newswire in an unbiased source of news... granted,
it's a lot LESS biased than most any other news source.
   
   And, besides.  I don't want to pay THAT much for the news.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: KEN SABLE           
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:33:41
Message Number 17312

For all I know, the Con is still going on...
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: new info!      
Date & Time: 06/02/91 17:34:55
Message Number 17313

Didn't I hear that somewhere before?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SINDAR              
Subject: back...        
Date & Time: 06/02/91 18:13:04
Message Number 17314

Hey, now, don't knock Mustangs.  They may be slow, but at least they're
pretty...well, cute.  Especially the newer ones.  Ok, ok, so maybe they
aren't even cute.  Well, at least they put good tires on 'em.  
 
What for, I dunno...
===========

From: BUSTER BUNNY        
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/03/91 13:35:48
Message Number 17315

DrF>  Sheesh... why does Nature hate a Pacifist?
 
    Well, Why do Humans hunt Foxes?  For sport?  What a cruel way to 
treat animals.  Why do humans have to treat animals so bad?  I mean,
hell, Ken Sable Hates Dogs, and just like, shoves them away.  Why? I
would like to know why people have to hurt animals. I can understand
maybe foir food, like Cows, but I mean, I could not go out, and just
kill a dog, or a fox, or any othe animal for that matter.  I do not,
in a matter of speaking, like to hear of anybody, hurting animals. I
even bitch at Ken Sable, when he gets pissed off at his cat, and he-
throws it across the room.  I tell him that if he throws the cat, I-
will leave ... For I do not in the slightest believe in that. 
 
     Why do Humans Hurt Animals...why?...
 
      Buster Bunny 6:B
 
 
                6:B -- bunny with tongue hangin' out ... other way ...
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BUSTER BUNNY        
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/03/91 17:38:26
Message Number 17326

BB> [Long tirade about hurting animals]
     
   Hmmm... are you a vegetarian, then?
    
   Humans hunt foxes because it's fun to be cruel.  Not many people
would go out and kill -- just for pleasure... but there's still a
number of hunters out there.  Go figure.  
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Heheh....      
Date & Time: 06/03/91 18:23:29
Message Number 17327

Well, the Picnick will at leave have all the room we need....the asst
manager said they could accommodate up to 50 people. I happen to love
their shrimp dinners (and scallops too!)...but their lunches are fine,
too.... Anyway, hope we can get a good turnout....
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RED DRAGON          
Subject: Software Trade 
Date & Time: 06/03/91 23:49:43
Message Number 17333

Well, hey, I'm definitely interested. If you are interested, I also have
an extensive collection of .GIF, .MAC, and PICT-format graphics,
including a great deal of Japanimation and Furry artwork. I have a
fairly extensive library of MS-DOS, Amiga, and Macintosh software
(PD and shareware) and even the odd bits of TRS-80, Apple, Kaypro-II,
CP/M, Z-System, and H-86 software (grin). My mailing address is:
Franklin Veaux
1895 Sanford Circle
Sarasota, FL 34234
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/03/91 23:58:16
Message Number 17334

>By any chance does that Bug have a name yet?
 
RoboMouse, so called because of the "Mickey Mouse ear" floodlights on
the roof. It got the name shortly after Rufus saw RoboCop (the original,
not the hacked-up Frank Miller sequel). As a historical aside, my first
Bug was named JSYS, since everyone knows a JSYS is a good vehicle for
hackers...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:00:04
Message Number 17335

>How fortunate you were not like a billion other kids whose parents put
>no restrictions on them...
 
That isn't the case at all. It's not that my parents put no restrictions
on me; they simply told me what they thought was appropriate behavior,
and /why/ they thought it was appropriate behavior, and figured that as
a self-determining and sapient lifeform I was capable of figuring out
the rest by myself. They also didn't bail me out whenever I got into
trouble, like a number of the parents of the type you describe seem to
do. If I got into trouble, it was my own damn problem and I had best
figure how to get myself right back out again. There is some middle
ground between the "total permisiveness" and "raise the kid as a carbon
copy of ourselves" camps, ya know?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:03:52
Message Number 17336

>I can't stop her from listening and watching Paula Abdul... 
 
Or 2 Live Crew.
 
>...it's too cute... you should see her trying to dance like that.
 
You aren't /really/ being amused at your child's expense, are you?
For shame, for shame. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: new info!      
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:06:29
Message Number 17337

>NEW PLACE: Walt's Fish Market, ...
 
Chef Paul's threaten you with a major lawsuit or an impact fee?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: back...        
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:07:54
Message Number 17338

>Hey, now, don't knock Mustangs. They may be slow, but at least they're
>pretty...well, cute.
 
Oh, come on. Give credit where credit is due--some of the older 'Stangs
have it where it counts. The Mach 1's and Shelby Cobras are pretty
quick, all in all. Perfectly adequate.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BUSTER BUNNY        
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 00:09:43
Message Number 17339

Why do Humans Hurt Animals...why?...
 
Because Humans Are Obnoxious. Humans don't treat /each other/ with
respect; you don't REALLY expect them to treat other species with
respect, do you? Besides, sometimes it's PROFITABLE to hurt animals...
'nuff said.
===========

From: KNIGHT OWL          
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 01:01:21
Message Number 17340

What's the 'JSYS ' stand for?
===========

From: RED DRAGON          
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Software Trade 
Date & Time: 06/04/91 05:44:31
Message Number 17341

Kool!,  We will get 3 sample disks out to ya, If you are looking for
anything, tell me and I might be able to get it.  Keep an eye out for
our package.  We will send you our address with the package, cause we
are in process of moving.  Catch Ya Later, DUDE!!
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: Heheh....      
Date & Time: 06/04/91 08:40:50
Message Number 17342

   Okay, you'll be seeing me there!  (I was thinking about going to
an event in Gainesville -- but, no real reason to, now.)
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: new info!      
Date & Time: 06/04/91 08:43:09
Message Number 17343

You remember the last Picnick?  And how cramped we were in the back
room?  And how some people  (no names given, here...) couldn't even
SIT in the back room?  Sheesh -- we need to move to a much larger
place.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: SINDAR              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: back...        
Date & Time: 06/04/91 09:30:13
Message Number 17345

  > dont knock mustang.....
 
   Naw dude.... I aint knocking them.... I wish mine was in better
condition an all. Jus that the older ones, ya either got one thats
in Mint condition or you dont, theres no inbetween. As for mine, now
that we keep finding things, its getting farther and father away from
mint everyday....trying to sell it now as it is. For someone who
actually knows how to fix em up an all..... tis a good fixer up. 
The body though looks GREAT! Just wish they could put the Stang body on 
another car....ha!....
 
                    Sindar
===========

From: SINDAR              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 09:35:28
Message Number 17346

   > animal treatment and stoff....
 
   Well, it seems people treat animals in such ways because they
can't hear them scream. They can't listen them say that it hurts.
All they can see is their eyes looking back....  Would hearing the
animals make people stop? No. Hell no. People are usually ignorant
to others feelings. Personal gain has toppled self respect and respect
for others that it is so commman now a days jus to push away others
for yourself. It weaves itself into every aspect of life includeing
that of pets.... hell, animals in general. Life sucks when someone
has to kick a dog to take out their frustrations of work and the
sort.
 
                   Sindar
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Religion       
Date & Time: 06/04/91 12:44:06
Message Number 17347

Why splat out a character?  Of course, it's Tuesday, school's more or
less over Thursday, and we haven't even started the actual layout.
Ghods, I want a Mac.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Maas Library,ha
Date & Time: 06/04/91 12:45:12
Message Number 17348

I don't know if you're name would still be listed.  That computer 
system really sucks.  But at least they got the worlds loudest dot
matrix printers and people print out the screen instead of writing down
the title and number. Aaarrghh...
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 06/04/91 12:49:12
Message Number 17349

>Don't you snap at Rufus!!!!
 
Awww...thanks...I feel loved now.  Now that I think about it, I'm 
retracting my "Three Muskateers" in favor of "Three Stooges."  :)
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 13:04:37
Message Number 17350

>It [RoboMouse] got the name shortly after Rufus saw RoboCop.
 
Huh?  Is my seeing RoboCop (which I first saw on video...five times
in one day) important to the name of the Bug.  I don't think I was 
related in naming the Bug.  Or was I.  I digress...
===========

From: SINDAR              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 06/04/91 14:37:39
Message Number 17352

  > Three Muskateers to Three Stooges.....
 
   How about.... "Three Blind Mice...."
===========

From: GREATLEGS           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: same           
Date & Time: 06/04/91 20:42:41
Message Number 17354

I changed my alias but not much.  Wrote to sysop about dropping the 
previous one then couldn't come up with a new one.  Nice to hear you
're a leg man.....Greatlegs.
===========

From: GREATLEGS           
To: RAT                 
Subject: alias          
Date & Time: 06/04/91 20:44:21
Message Number 17355

You're on!  Now where is it?   Rat's place, I mean.....Greatlegs
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: isnlsdg        
Date & Time: 06/04/91 22:56:35
Message Number 17356

Naw, I think /anyone/ could understand some of the good points about 
kids whether they were a parent or not.... 
 For instance, Marshall got an award of Excellence in Math today... that
made me very proud of him.... and Valarie performed at the Van Wezel on 
Sunday and I was /very/ proud of her then... she was really cute... 
And just today she said...... "Your the best Mommy that I ever had." 
 
Aw... isn't that too cute? 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 22:59:39
Message Number 17357

I'm not sure that I won't have to work on June the 8th... but if I can
I'll go. New location? It's not going to be a Chef Pauls? 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: speed of board 
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:00:50
Message Number 17358

CD>Ahhh....well, I may soon sell my 2400 bauder...hmmmm....:) 
 
Oh? Going to get a 9600 and break the sound barrier are you? 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:01:49
Message Number 17359

CD> .....I had a '56 Olds... Ah, fond memories... 
 
Not all fond.... though... I had a Camaro I used to run out on the 
extension (actually turned 16's at DeSoto *yee ha*).... and I dated a 
guy who had a Firebird... I think it was a 68? Not sure.. anyway... he 
was racing me and he hit the shoulder and flipped the Firebird.... 
Scared the crud out of me!!!!! I was on two wheels doing a 360 in the 
road to go back and see if he'd killed himself or not... Luckily, the 
only thing that was damanged was the car.... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:06:08
Message Number 17360

Hey!!! That Mustang is NOT a peice of sh*t. I still happen to like that 
car.... even if it does turn into a swimming pool on rainy days. It's 
still a cool car... 
I'll take your word about the Hamster Power... you ought to know, you 
have to feed them... but don't you think Thumper Two would like to go 
back to his cage now? He told me the smell of radiator water boiling 
makes him nauseus..(sp?)... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: back...        
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:08:32
Message Number 17361

I think that should be "Arf Gods are Fur-ever." Woof!!!! 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: is nails dug   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:10:56
Message Number 17362

KO> P.S. And did you get them on a blue light special? (Kids) 
 
Hehehe. Funny you should say that... I met my husband when we were both
working for Kmart (a billion light years ago) and he's always joking 
that he got me on a blue light special.... Hmph!!! Did not! I happen to 
remember that he paid FULL price!!!! 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:12:51
Message Number 17363

Drf>How 'bout "The Splattered Bug"? 
 
Hmmmm, more like "The Battered Bug." Although I imagine it's pretty 
splattered (with mud) after Turtle gets done with an off road adventure.
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:14:50
Message Number 17364

Drf>Some parents put no restrictions on their children because they 
    don't care. 
 
Well, in some cases, they still love the kids, but they get the attitude
that it's easier to let them do what they want than to enforce the 
restrictions and provide the consequences. Which conveys to the kids tha
(that) they don't care.... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:17:40
Message Number 17365

When I was a kid (Saavik launches into yet another childhood story) I 
used to play with Dragonflies. When they'd lit on the clothesline, I'd 
sneak up on them and slap them in my cupped hands. It would stun them 
just a little (never killed them)... then I'd carry them around and 
feed them stuff (like flies and balony) until they flew away again... 
...... same with lizards... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: BUSTER BUNNY        
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:21:12
Message Number 17366

Maybe people hurt animals for the same reasons some parents hurt their 
children..... it's the pitts, isn't it? Like the guy who beats his dog 
with no mercy.... until one day the dog bites him... then what happens? 
The Dog gets taken to the pound and terminated.... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:23:49
Message Number 17367

RoboMouse.... I like it... Yeah, and the car kinda looks like a two 
button Mouse too. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:25:03
Message Number 17368

T>There is some middle ground between the "total permisiveness" and 
  "raise the kid as a carbon copy of ourselves" camps, ya know? 
 
Every child is different.. You can have three children... all raised 
by the same parents in the same house... and each one will turn out 
differently... with different tastes, etc... you have to raise each chil
(child) as an individual and find the best way to "handle" him/her. 
At least that's been my experience. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: restrictions   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:27:24
Message Number 17369

My daughter is 4... I think it's safe to say that she won't be listening
to 2 Live Crew at MY house or at her Preschool.... 
 
T>You aren't /really/ being amused at your child's expense, are you? 
 
Yep.... but I'm laughing with her NOT at her. She's really a pretty
good little dancer. I would never Ridicule or laught AT her when she
is doing something... this would discourage her... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:31:42
Message Number 17370

Some animals do scream..... but many times it falls on deaf ears. 
And when an animal tries to defend itself against attack, then it is 
punished all the harder..... BUT, the law is beginning to prosecute 
the abusers of animals more everyday.... so maybe there will be more 
"Yips" of happiness, then "Howls" of pain.... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Maas Library,ha
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:35:05
Message Number 17371

RF>....at least they got the worlds loudest dot matrix printers
 
Yeah, and it's soooo quiet in the library.... then all of a sudden.... 
*Screeeeech screeeeech screeeeech* As the printer purrs (more like 
growls) to life. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:37:28
Message Number 17372

RF>.... retracting my "Three Muskateers" in favor of "Three Stooges." :)
 
The Three Amigos??? Maybe??? ( I just got a visual of Martin Short, 
Chevy Chase, and Steve Martin singing in the desert). 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: California ... 
Date & Time: 06/04/91 23:39:37
Message Number 17373

SN> How about.... "Three Blind Mice....." 
 
The "Three Arfs"??? Or how about... Hewey, Dewey and Louie.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: KNIGHT OWL          
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/05/91 04:21:15
Message Number 17378

>What's the 'JSYS ' stand for?
 
Jump to System. It's a TOPS-20 supervisor call (TOPS-20 being the
operating system for a DECsystem-20 mainframe, of course). There are
almost a thousand of them, for doing all sorts of functions from file
access to system maintenance. A catalog of 'em makes a printout six 
inches thick (I have two of 'em).
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SINDAR              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/05/91 04:23:49
Message Number 17379

>Personal gain has toppled self respect and respect for others...
 
So what else is new? That was old news about the time the species was
first developing the concept of language.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/05/91 04:25:05
Message Number 17380

>I don't think I was related in naming the Bug.
 
I believe you coined the word "robomouse," you dip!
 
>Or was I.
 
Um...see above.
 
>I digress.
 
And distress.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/05/91 04:27:25
Message Number 17381

>Although I imagine it's pretty splattered (with mud) after Turtle gets
>done with an off road adventure.
 
You ain't kiddin', either. I've had "off road adventures" where I've
come back with the only part of the Bug that's visible being these two
arcs on the windshield where the wipers are. The rest of the car just
gets buried...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/05/91 04:29:30
Message Number 17382

Yeah, and the car kinda looks like a two button Mouse too.
 
So what the hell kind of mouse do /you/ have attached to your computer,
anyway? I ain't never seen one what looks like that!
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: ALL                 
Subject: Trivia         
Date & Time: 06/05/91 08:06:34
Message Number 17383

Trivia question:  Which war made the first use of a submarine, and
what was the name of that submarine?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Religion       
Date & Time: 06/05/91 08:09:41
Message Number 17384

R> Why splat out a character?
   
   So as not to offend people, silly.  People feel (for some really
strange reason) much less offended when they see "sh*t" than "shit"
in a magazine.  Anyone have any ideas why?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: GREATLEGS           
Subject: same           
Date & Time: 06/05/91 08:12:35
Message Number 17385

GL> Nice to hear you're a leg man.
   
   Va-va-voom!  Stop by more often, eh?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: i snail sand go
Date & Time: 06/05/91 08:14:40
Message Number 17386

> And just today she said.... "Your the best Mommy that I ever had."
    
   Just wait 'till they're teenagers.  Then they'll say you're the
worst mother they've ever had!
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/05/91 08:17:54
Message Number 17387

Pardon my ignorance, but what's "turning 16's at DeSoto"?
    
   But I know the feeling, real well.  My father had a Mercedes 450-SL,
which he would NOT let me touch.  But he did, twice, "triple the
double nickle" in it when I was riding...  (165 mph is FAST!)
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/05/91 08:22:23
Message Number 17388

S> Although I imagine it's pretty splattered (with mud) after Turtle
S> gets done with an off road adventure.
    
   I remember one of those!   Three of the FIVE of us (I think it was
five) had to get out, while the bug tried to work its way up a steep
hill.  
   Trust me: it's not just the bug that gets splattered in one of those
adventures.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/05/91 08:26:22
Message Number 17389

Sigh... if only Dragonflies had stings... or could breathe just a
wee bit of fire...
   
   And about doing that to lizards... trying to get back on what dino-
saurs did to your ancestors?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/05/91 08:30:14
Message Number 17390

   Going on a completely different subject, my roommates have brought
in two spiny mouses: Isis and Nefertiti (sp?).  It's utterly amazing
watching them: a lot of what they do looks like completely cat-like
behavior, except at double the speed.
   I hope I mentioned the "Teenage Mutant Hamsters" that are around?
(Unfortunately, not radioactive.)
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: isnlsdg        
Date & Time: 06/05/91 17:32:51
Message Number 17394

Snif.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Trivia         
Date & Time: 06/05/91 17:39:25
Message Number 17395

1801, American civil engineer Robert Fulton (1765-1815) produces the 
first "true" submarine "Nautilus". 
Exactly 100 years later, the first British submarine was launched. 
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: ALL                 
Subject: Picnick News   
Date & Time: 06/05/91 18:58:45
Message Number 17396

I'm exhausted, draggin' out boxes of good stuff for the picnick! So,
far, I've gotten over 150 books, hdcvr & sftcvr, about half sci-fi
including the classics (Heinlin, etc), Analog magazines, lots of
electronics, some lighting/lamps, etc.....I gotta give it away, so
please help me out and come to the picnick this Saturday!! Whew, 
back to the boxes...oh, I'll bring plenty of plastic bags too....
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Trivia         
Date & Time: 06/05/91 23:14:26
Message Number 17398

Hmmmm... real, real close answer.  Just one question:  What's the
difference between a "true" submarine and its predecessors?  And
name a "false" <?> submarine that was actually used in a war before
1801.
   (Okay, okay... two questions. Well, then... three. Which war was it?)
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: KNIGHT OWL          
To: TURTLE              
Subject: mice & bugs    
Date & Time: 06/06/91 19:34:59
Message Number 17400

I forget who makes it, but there's a mouse that looks like this --> ) <-
at least as far as the shape goes, it looks like a bug [well.. kinda].
 
L8R!
Kight Owl
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Trivia         
Date & Time: 06/06/91 19:54:16
Message Number 17401

I don't know.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE, DRAGONFLY   
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/06/91 20:05:21
Message Number 17402

Ok, people have stopped posting in the Den.  I move that we bring
the Wyverns Den back to aLTER rEALITY...and pick it up right after 
Angel's departure.  Seconds?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/06/91 22:30:02
Message Number 17404

>Pardon my ignorance, but what's "turning 16's at DeSoto"?
 
Making quarter-mile runs in sixteen seconds at DeSoto Raceway, pre-
sumably. That isn't really terribly fast, actually.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/06/91 22:32:53
Message Number 17405

>I move that we bring the Wyverns Den back...
 
I don't think Watts would go for that, considering he now lives a very
long distance, telephonically speaking, from here and therefore would
be unable to moderate it. Right now it's ceased to exist entirely,
seeing how the only board that carried the echo version is down.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: CHARLES DITTELL     
Subject: Relationships  
Date & Time: 06/06/91 23:58:05
Message Number 17406

Ways to break out???? Nawwwwwww.....being a reptile about to slither
away from his second mate, I'm one to be talking to (or about..hehe).
Well, both times we kind of slithered away form each other. Time to
shed or something I guess. I'm an old fashioned sort of serpent thou,
would much prefer to fight then switch, but it takes two to make it
work and only one to make it fail.....<sssssssigh>.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: KNIGHT OWL          
Subject: G. Larson      
Date & Time: 06/07/91 00:00:53
Message Number 17407

>>>Sam Gross.....
 
Yeah, I believe I am a little familiar with him. Have you ever seen any
of Kliben's work? He's done a lot of different rags and he's got out
some books....ehhh, errrrr <stretching for the bookshelf...> ahhhh,
"Tiny Footprints and other drawings", "Two guys fooling around with the
moon", "Whack your porcupine and other drawings" and my favorite,
"Never eat anything bigger than your head". Good stuff, but some of
them a pretty deep. Some are not, like his series on Genitals of the 
Universe.   ssssssssssssssssssssssSS
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: hung up on GOD?
Date & Time: 06/07/91 00:04:47
Message Number 17408

>>>holds up a placcard "8.5"
 
...but the Russian judge gives him a "9.8" taking originality and
risk into concideration.
 
"....IN YOUR DREAMS, LONELY REPTILE!!!" Allen Funt replies.
 
(sorry for the sporadic logons....things aren't very stable here at
 ground zero right now....)
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: SINDAR              
Subject: Pres. Quayle   
Date & Time: 06/07/91 00:08:31
Message Number 17409

>>>>smash and smash and SMASH....
  
A cheap plug for a Sledge-O-Matic, no doubt.
Just be sure you see the seal turn green first, that means the 
flavor is locked in....hehe
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: hung up on GOD?
Date & Time: 06/07/91 00:10:00
Message Number 17410

>>>>(Brady Bunch theme in background)...I hate it even more now.
 
I used the theme most DEFINITELY in a sense or repentance, to
punish myself horribly. The show always made my skin come loose
from just behind the finger nails and rolls ever so slowly back
up my arms until it acheived a turtle-neck (excuse that Turtle)
like appearance around my throat. There are many test patterns I'd
watch instead.....YEEEUCK!!!! Don't ask me why the song came to me,
I thinks it's something to do with the water.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Pres. Quayle   
Date & Time: 06/07/91 00:16:17
Message Number 17411

>>>freeze your brain...futzes your perception.
 
I knew there was a good reason to stop snorting freon. Thanx....hehe
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Trivia         
Date & Time: 06/07/91 15:17:27
Message Number 17412

I'm going to see if anyone else wants to take a shot at the question
before I answer...
    ...Turtle?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/07/91 15:18:18
Message Number 17413

Okay, okay... I'll start posting in the Den.  Sheesh!  Now, what
was my character's name again?
    
   BTW, I do NOT recommend bringing back the Wyvern's Den.  The story
was propelled along by Angel's work, and she's no longer calling us.
(Sob!)  When Donthen was around, he was also really good at bringing
forward the story.  Neither is around, now.
   
   Heck, the only professional writer we have here is Turtle.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/07/91 15:21:58
Message Number 17414

>Making quarter-mile runs in sixteen seconds... isn't really terribly
>fast.
     
   Seventy-five miles per hour, sez my old slide rule.  But if it's
starting from a standing position, that's a damn lot of acceleration
needed to get up there.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: hung up on GOD?
Date & Time: 06/07/91 15:29:44
Message Number 17415

>...skin come loose from just behind the finger nails...
     
   Snakes have finger nails?   And what's so unusual about a snake
shedding its skin?
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: ALL                 
Subject: Wesley, Move 2 
Date & Time: 06/07/91 15:38:37
Message Number 17416

   As he gets off the 'craft, some long-tailed morph [Shandra] said
"Hello" to the young human.  He smiled back.  He loved the tail.
   
   He wandered over to the Den, where Louis is waiting.  Before Louis
has a chance to ask, Wesley pulls out an I.D. card, and shoves it in
Louis' hand.
     
   The card, a driver's licence from Georgia, had his 3-D picture,
the name of Wesley Simmons, a birthdate that would make him twenty-one
years old, a statement that Wesley was born free (and not a slave), and
gave his physical dimensions fairly closely.  The signature of the
Transportation General was illegible.  Underneath the driver's license
was a hundred-credit note.
   
   The license was patently fake: there was no magnetic strip on the
back, for example.  And Georgia never went through the expense of a 
full hologram on their driver's licenses.  And Louis could really care
less about the age of someone who enters the Den.  But he pocketed the
note, and waved Wesley in.
   
   He wandered over to the bar, and tried to look macho.  There was
nobody behind the counter.  "Hey!  What do I have to do to get service 
around here!" he shouted to no one in particular.
===========

From: KNIGHT OWL          
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: G. Larson      
Date & Time: 06/07/91 22:51:06
Message Number 17418

No, I haven't seen his stuff... I'd like to find out about where it's 
available though.
 
L8R!
Knight Owl
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: hung up on GOD?
Date & Time: 06/08/91 02:22:53
Message Number 17419

>>>Snakes have finger nails.....
 
I keep mine on my key chain right beside my rabbit's foot. And nothing
is unusual about a snake shedding its skin. The problem is when you
do it about three weeks early and you have to put it back on....ouch!!
Lived in a Christmas wrapping paper tube for a week one day, don't 
care to do it again no time soon. 
 
Oh yeah...caught a relative of yours in my living room the other night.
Sucker had a good six inch wing span and dive bombed us before we
(mercifully) captured and released him/her (I don't know how you tell)
outside. Pretty thing......
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: KNIGHT OWL          
Subject: G. Larson      
Date & Time: 06/08/91 02:29:02
Message Number 17420

Kliban's stuff? Should be at any decent book store in the same area
as the FarSide stuff and little short wide funny works like that. His
books are published the same size as the FarSide stuff (ie Beyond the 
FarSide, The FarSide, In Search of the FarSide, It Came From the FarSide
Night of the Crash Test Dummies, Hound of the FarSide, Valley of the
FarSide, The FarSide Observer, Bride of the FarSide and Wildlife
Preserves. That's the only ones of Larson's I've got <grin>).
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:25:53
Message Number 17423

>....the only part of the Bug that's visible being these two arcs on the
     windshield where the wipers are.
 
                Robomouse in Mud
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:27:09
Message Number 17424

>...what the hell kind of a mouse do /you/ have.... I ain't never seen 
    one that looks like that!
 
I don't have a mouse. (this could explain a few things eh? ) 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: i snail sand go
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:28:41
Message Number 17425

>..wait 'till they're teenagers. Then they'll say you're the worst 
   mother they've ever had! 
 
I know... everyone keeps warning me about this... uhg.. I don't think I 
could handle their rejection of me.... (sniffle) 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:30:29
Message Number 17426

Triple the double nickel.... (165 mph) Wow.. that's fast... 
Turning 16's meant that my time on the quarter mile was 16 secs. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:32:18
Message Number 17427

>....trying to get back on what dinosaurs did to your ancestors? 
 
Naw, they were my pets..... What can I say? I was an easily amused kid. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:33:28
Message Number 17428

Teenaged Mutant Hamsters?  ARG! 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:35:19
Message Number 17429

>Making quarter-mile runs in sixteen seconds at DeSota Raceway. That 
isn't rally terribly fast, actually. 
 
Hmmph! Well, it wasn't bad for a seventeen year old girl with a 283 
small block..... and I checked... my best time was a little bit faster 
but not much... who cares anyway, right? 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: hung up on GOD?
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:38:17
Message Number 17430

>(sorry for the sporadic logons...things aren't very stable here at 
  ground zero right now...) 
 
Earthquake? Yeah, I'm riding out the eye of a storm myself... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/08/91 10:40:24
Message Number 17431

>...(turning 16s)...that's a damn lot of acceleration needed to get up
    there... 
 
:)  Thank you... at least somebody appreciates my dubious accomplishment
as a redneck teenager. By the way... I used to disqualify myself a lot 
by red lighting... (over anxious gas pedel!) 
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/08/91 17:49:00
Message Number 17432

DFY>Pardon my ignorance, but what's "turning 16's at DeSoto"?
 
T>Making quarter-mile runs in sixteen seconds at DeSoto raceway, presum-
T>ably.  That isn't really terribly fast, actually.
 
Understatement of the year.  But you gotta understand, that
is flat out hauling for a GM product.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/08/91 17:51:21
Message Number 17433

Ok, we find another moderator.  I nominate you.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/08/91 17:53:44
Message Number 17434

The story was NOT propelled along by Angel's work, as a matter of fact,
I found a lot of her stuff boring...especially those useless rhymes she
used to post.  I simply control X'ed a lot of them.  
 
  I think that Rufus, Turtle, Max and Me all got along fine before 
Angel, and I think that it could be done again.  (Assuming, of course,
that Max would post...and Rufus...Ah, you can never go home.)
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/08/91 17:57:03
Message Number 17435

DFY>Seventy-five miles per hour...
 
Again, not terribly fast... 
 
DFY>...if it's starting from a standing position, that's a damn lot of
DFY>acceleration needed to get up there.
 
It's a FAIR amount.  How about an ending speed of 225 miles per hour?
Howzzat strike ya?  What's your slide rule say about that?  (Completes
in about 5 seconds or so.)   Now, THAT'S a "damn lot" of acceleration!
I figger my Mopar could do about a 13 or 14 second quarter mile as it
stands, but when I get that decent rear end and the sixpack put on, it's
gonna do a 12 and some change.... What's your slide rule say about that?
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/09/91 13:08:11
Message Number 17436

Umm....when did the car get the name RoboMouse?  I had never seen the 
car till November of 1989.  But, if you want to credit me with the
name, that's fine with me.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Religion       
Date & Time: 06/09/91 13:10:27
Message Number 17437

> So as not to offend people, silly.
 
Oohh...well, if I didn't want to offend anyone, then I wouldn't be
publishing anything, now would I?  I'd offend someone out there.
Besides, I've already distributed the magazine.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: ALL                 
Subject: Parents...     
Date & Time: 06/09/91 17:50:46
Message Number 17438

   Just got a bit of a shock.  My parents, down in Mexico, have
typhoid fever.  They're okay -- they just got out of the hospital
yesterday -- but they're still shaken up.  More news later.
                        //Dragonfly//
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: hung up on GOD?
Date & Time: 06/09/91 17:52:40
Message Number 17439

>...and released him/her...
    
   Thanks!  Actually, a similar incident gave me this moniker.
                        //Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: i snail sand go
Date & Time: 06/09/91 17:54:22
Message Number 17440

>I don't think I could handle their rejection of me...
   
   Teenagers never really reject their parents... Think of it like a
kite.  You begin flying the kite, and slowly let out more string, as
it sails higher and higher.  Occasionally, there's a crash, and you
need to do some mending.  But one lucky day, you let your kite out, 
and you see it climb higher and higher into the sky, until it's free
of gravity, and free from your control.
     
   Of course, that 'kite' may want a little extra string when he
comes home from college...
                        //Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/09/91 17:58:20
Message Number 17441

>Turning 16's meant that my time on the quarter mile was 16 secs.
     
   From a standing start?
                        //Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/09/91 17:59:20
Message Number 17442

>Teenaged Mutant Hamsters?  ARG!
     
   Yes, but they're cute creatures.  And they never learned ninjitsu.
                        //Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/09/91 18:01:10
Message Number 17443

   ...just thinking about trying to put the Stubborn Hamster, or the
Green Bitch in one of those drag races.   More like turning 61s.*
                        //Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/09/91 18:02:46
Message Number 17444

>I think that Rufus, Turtle, Max and Me all got along fine before
>Angel, and I think that it could be done again.
     
   Granted.  I was a supporting actor.  But once Angel came on, she
recruited Max into her plot-line, then forced it on us.  Face it: it
was a good one.
   (Even if you didn't like her poetry.)
                        //Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/09/91 18:05:01
Message Number 17445

>I figger my Mopar could do about a 13 or 14 second quarter mile as it
>stands, but when I get that decent rear end and the sixpack put on,
>it's gonna do a 12 and some change... What's your slide rule say about
>that?
     
   *ERROR*
     
   I think you broke it.
                        //Dragonfly//
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Religion       
Date & Time: 06/09/91 18:06:37
Message Number 17446

>...then I wouldn't be publishing anything, now would I?  I'd offend
>someone out there.
    
   I'm siccing the Legion of Moral Standards on you.  Worse than that,
I'm going to let the Council for Americanisms, the Republican 
Conservative Society, and the E. I. B. Network know that you used
the word 'Belgium' in a non-poetic form.
                        //Dragonfly//
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From: HACMAN              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: politics       
Date & Time: 06/09/91 18:49:23
Message Number 17447

>People don't agree with me about anything involving interpersonal 
rrelationships or politics very often.
 
Well I've heard about the interpersonal relationships, whats your view
toward politics?  Personally I wouldn't give you a plugged nickle for 
any of'm.  My biggest gripe:  always saying the govt. needs more money.
All the while people like Sununu fly all over the place, cutting back 
services to cities, cutting back health services, considering raising 
the retirement age a few years ago, stuff like that.  AND leaving 
people like the Kurds hanging while we decide what to do if anything.
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From: HACMAN              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: True Freinds   
Date & Time: 06/09/91 18:57:23
Message Number 17448

>Why?  For your own peace of mind, thats why...it'll continue to 
bother you until you know why exactly why he chose to end the frienship.
 
Oh, quite the contrary.  I think very little of him now.  He is, in my 
opinion, a small person.  I could see by his attitude when he told me
point blAnk our friendship was over, that he no longer had ANY interest
in continuing the friendship.  I tried to get him to give me a reason...
.....NADA.  It actually made me angry at first, but that was over with 
in a short time. After that, I consider him just somebody I knew once. 
Maybe I'm a small person too, for not giving a damn what happens to him
now, but as fas as I'm concerned, he brought it on himself.  Now I'm not
trying to say the demise of our friendship was his fault.  For all I
know, he might have had a legitimate reason for being upset with me.  
I'll never know and personally I don't care. If he was not man enough  
to talk to me, then I have no reason to talk to him.  Finis. 
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From: HACMAN              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: bones          
Date & Time: 06/09/91 19:07:12
Message Number 17449

>Not all real bones splinter......
 
Hmmm.  I'll have to talk to him. Are those rawhide or those nyla-bones 
any good.  I'd think they'd get lodged in their intestines
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From: HACMAN              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: breaking habits
Date & Time: 06/09/91 19:09:11
Message Number 17450

Well I wont chastise you, cause I've done it too.  JUst keep trying
for your own health and because of your loved ones.  I, so far, have
not cheated.  I'll be thinking of you....
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From: TURTLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: Pres. Quayle   
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:23:56
Message Number 17452

>I knew there was a good reason to stop snorting freon.
 
"This is your brain. This is your brain on ice." I hope you at least
snort the kind that /doesn't/ eat the ozone, ya know?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:25:56
Message Number 17453

>But if it's starting from a standing position...
 
Of /course/ it's starting from a standing position. That's what drag
racing is all about. And you're going a heckuva lot faster than 75
when you get to the finish line, too.
 
Actually, sixteen seconds is about what you can expect a stock Corvette
or something along those lines to finish a quarter mile in. A rodded-out
Nova with a four-barrel will do it in about fourteen, something like
The Specialist's car with six-pack installed can probably make it in
twelve or thirteen, and a racing Bug with turbo-charged, nitro-packed
engine will do it in about eleven. Faster than that and you gotta be
burning something besides gasoline. Top fuel rail dragsters and funnycar
will generally do it in seven.
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From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:31:55
Message Number 17454

>Robomouse in Mud.
 
RoboMouse in Traction, right now. I got the engine and tranny work done
and it just purrs smooth as silk now, but the *#$% brakes are futzed.
There's a hole in one of my brake lines that you can almost poke your
finger in, and the damn line's kind of an integral part of the chassis.
Can't really see any rational way to replace it. Grr.
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From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:34:13
Message Number 17455

>Triple the double nickel... Wow.. that's fast...
 
Telephone poles look like a picket fence/The lines on the road look like
dots. Or something to that effect.
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From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:35:17
Message Number 17456

>Hmmph!
 
Well, it's /not/ very fast!
 
>Well, it wasn't bad for a seventeen year old girl with a 283 small
>block...
 
It's still not very fast. And what's the seventeen got to do with it?
When Carey (a former roommate of mine) was seventeen she was turning
high 13's in a '63 Challenger...
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:37:27
Message Number 17457

>But you gotta understand, that is flat out hauling for a GM product.
 
Guess that 'splains why they can't get much better outta 'vette even
with a 350, huh?
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:38:30
Message Number 17458

>Ok, we find another moderator.
 
Yeah, I'll bet Max'd just friggin' /love/ that.
 
>I nominate you.
 
Oh, good...get /me/ in trouble!
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From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:40:08
Message Number 17459

>Umm...when did the car get the name RoboMouse?
 
Fairly recently, like sometime last year. I believe you actually dubbed
it RoboMouse /on this board/, you nitwit. I suppose I /could/ wade
through all my archive files and look for the post...
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From: TURTLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: i snail sand go
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:41:55
Message Number 17460

>But one lucky day, you let your kite out...until it's free from your
>control.
 
Um...best take advantage of any aeronautics courses that may happen your
way...kites don't work if they aren't tethered. The principle by which
they fly is almost the opposite of the principle by which an airplane
wing works...they depend on high drag and high attack angle to stay up.
As a result, if you let go of 'em they fall down go boom, eventually.
You ever notice how kites don't glide very well?  Rather low stall
speed, that's why.
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From: TURTLE              
To: HACMAN              
Subject: politics       
Date & Time: 06/09/91 23:46:25
Message Number 17461

>...what's your view toward politics?
 
That it's a damn silly enterprise. That spending so much money to defend
a country from real or imagined enemies that you can't afford to maintai
your own infrastructure, feed your population, or control crime is
ridiculous--and counterproductive. That if you want to take away some-
one's right to do something you better be able to show a damn good
reason for it--and I mean a reason other than "Well, if little Sally
reads this book she might grow up bad". Any other questions? :)
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Zameel         
Date & Time: 06/10/91 01:18:06
Message Number 17462

As he stepped off of the ship, he cleared his throat and spat a stream 
of flem past the dock and into the water. Several heads turned in his 
direction and he shot them a glare that made them quickly look away. 
 
He was an evil looking fellow.. Tall and large boned... not an ounce
of spare flesh on him but he went a good 240 lbs. A crab sidled across
the dock in front of him and he placed one booted foot over it and 
smiled as it crunched beneath his weight. "Officer's Ashore!!!" 
He yelled over his shoulder in his deep demanding voice, then he 
started walking down the dock toward the market place, about 5 men 
trailing behind him. The men were looking here and there with interest
but the man was moving with determination... swift and sure... past 
the market place and up the path. He didn't slow until he reached 
the pair of Bear Morphs at the door of the Den. 
 
"G'day, Louis." He greeted and shook the Bouncers hand heartily. 
 
Louis' smile was more of a grimace... "Zameel! Welcome back." Spoken
half heartedly. "I'll have to take your pistol." Louis glanced around
the large frame to the other crewmen. "And yours as well.." 
 
Zameel pulled the pistol off his belt and handed it to Louis without
batting an eye then started to walk by. A large furry arm blocked his
path. 
 
"And the knife on your right boot, Zameel." Louis locked glares with 
the large human. 
 
Zameel stared him down a moment then with a sigh, he leaned down and 
pulled out the knife... he paused before trying to pass again. 
 
Louis gave him one final glare, then removed his arm from Zameel's path.
"Have a nice day." The Bear Morph chuckled deeply. As the crew piled 
past, following Zameel and handing the Bouncer's their weapons, Louis 
ted the last time Zameel had visited... It had taken 2 days to 
clean up the mess from the brawl. Tampa would be "thrilled" to see him, 
he thought drily. 
 
Zameel entered the Den, glancing around as his eyes adjusted to the 
darkness. He brought a hand to the stubble on his chin and stared
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: Zameel         
Date & Time: 06/10/91 01:22:03
Message Number 17463

 
Zameel entered the Den, glancing around as his eyes adjusted to the 
darkness. He brought a hand to the stubble on his chin and stared at 
Shandra as she stood by the entrance to the brothel. 
 
"Shandra, Ole' girl.. Happy to see me? I'll be needing a room for the 
night.... and all the ammenities." 
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/10/91 16:14:18
Message Number 17465

DFY>...recruited Max
 
More like drafted...
 
DFY>...then forced it on us.
 
On you all, not me.  I was gone, member?
 
DFY>Face it:  it was a good one.
 
It was ok, I guess.   Convoluted, complex, as boring as a poor murder/
mystery.  But overall, it was a good idea.  (Must say, was more 
original than mine!)
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 16:16:43
Message Number 17466

TS>What's your slide rule say about that?
DFY> 
     *ERROR* 
DFY>  I think you broke it. 
 
Come outta the pre-renassance days!  Break down and buy a calculator.
Yes, it's neato and quaint that you can use one, but I stopped using 
one as soon as I started misplacing my decimals...calculators *so* 
much easier!
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 16:20:25
Message Number 17467

T>...a rodded-out Nova will do it in about fourteen, [etc]
 
Hmmm.  Probably I'm wrong (I almost always am whenever I am at variance
with you) but I think your estimates may have been a bit on the 
conservative side by about 3/4 of a second or so....
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/10/91 16:22:44
Message Number 17468

T>and the damn line's kind of an intgral part of the chassis.
 
Bypass surgery...doc.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 16:23:41
Message Number 17469

SA>Triple the double nickel...  Wow.
 
Uh huh.  I've done it, but it's expensive.  Got a speeding ticket...
But it's fun...!
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 16:24:51
Message Number 17470

T>high 13's in a '63 Challenger.
 
 63?  Didn't know they made 'em that year.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 16:25:52
Message Number 17471

T>Guess that 'splains why they can't get much better outta 'vette even
T>with a 350, huh"?
 
Well, really, depends on what year you are talking about...I've seen 
some really kickass Vettes.  (Hell, got beat by several, in my Camaro!
and even one in my Charger!) 
 
Best Vette engine they made was a 327/350 HP Hi-Rise.  Nice, Nice 
engine...strictly business, no-nonsense type car.
 
Course, they beat 'em at NASCAR with Petty's 71 RT (what else?) Charger.
Still though, very nice for the street.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Hey! You awake?
Date & Time: 06/10/91 16:29:22
Message Number 17472

Well, no one is posting in the Den!  I hate adding to a storyboard by
myself!!!
===========

From: HACMAN              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: politics       
Date & Time: 06/10/91 21:12:53
Message Number 17473

Well it certainly sounds like you have your mind made up.  Ever consider
joining politics to help correct the scituation?  I'd bet you'd probably
be asassinated for not wanting to play ball. I'd like to think I'd be a 
honest politician.  Kind of a contradiction in terms huh?
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:24:09
Message Number 17474

>It's still not very fast. 
 
Maybe not!!! But it was fun... and when you are in the car... it seems 
awful fast...... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:25:12
Message Number 17475

>Telephone poles look like a picket fence
 
I'd like to go that fast... but with someone else driving!!! I think I'd
wet my pants if I was driving. 
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From: SAAVIK              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:26:22
Message Number 17476

Arg... poor RoboMouse.... where's the Bug Doctor when you need him? 
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From: SAAVIK              
To: HACMAN              
Subject: bones          
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:28:35
Message Number 17477

A dog has a real rough time actually chewing up a nyla-bone... so they 
are the best bet... but a dog will get bored with them too. Those 
rawhide chewies and bones get soft and a dog can actually swallow them. 
Especially the small ones   
I've assisted the vet in removing them from the intestines before. But 
lot's of dogs chew them and never have any problems. Guess it's just 
one of those things. 
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From: SAAVIK              
To: HACMAN              
Subject: True Freinds   
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:31:40
Message Number 17478

Well, if it doesn't bother you that he terminated the friendship any
more..... then you are right to just forget about it. People do things
for strange reasons sometimes... and I think that many times, a broken
friendship remains that way because one or both parties are just to 
embarrassed about the whole thing to confront the other. 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:34:38
Message Number 17479

>....just thinking about trying to put the Stubborn Hamster, or the 
>Green Bitch in one of those drag races. More like turning 61s. 
 
Hehehe, Bracket 22... eh? Be like Mazda wars...... 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Mosquito God   
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:36:25
Message Number 17480

>Teenaged Mutant Hamsters? 
>Yes, but they're cute creatures. And they never learned ninjitsu. 
 
What /do/ they know? Karate from Japan? Judo from Okanowa? Crow bar 
from Sears? 
===========

From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:38:12
Message Number 17481

>Turning 16's meant that my time on the quarter mile was 16 secs. 
>From a standing start? 
 
Yeah, from a dead halt.... the little lights on the "Christmas tree" 
tell you when to go.... and if you go too soon, it's called red lighting
and the rest of your run is a waste of time.... I wasted a lot of time
until I got used to it..... but it was still fun... 
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From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: i snail sand go
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:40:18
Message Number 17482

> (Comparing children to flying a Kite. 
 
What a beautiful analogy, Dragonfly!!!!!! 
 
I think I'll go fly a kite!!! 
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From: SAAVIK              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Parents...     
Date & Time: 06/10/91 22:41:34
Message Number 17483

Wow... typhoid fever!!!! Remind me NOT to go to Mexico... It's hard to 
realize that they are diesises (sp) like that still on the rampage in 
countries other than ours.. I just saw something about the statistics 
on AIDS in Africa.. SCAREY!!!!!! 
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:11:00
Message Number 17484

>...I think your estimates may have been a bit on the conservative side
>by about 3/4 of a second or so...
 
Could be. I'm used to ET racing, where you don't really push as hard as
you can 'cause you don't want a breakout. Friend of mine had a Nova he
could get to make the run in about thirteen five, but that's about the
best time he managed.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:12:49
Message Number 17485

>Bypass surgery...doc.
 
Lemme just get out the ol' rubber tubing, and...but that ain't gonna
work, is it? If I could find something that'd take the pressure, sure.
I just don't want the damn thing blowing off when I step on the brake on
41 in rush hour traffic...any ideas?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:14:11
Message Number 17486

>I've done [triple the double nickel], but it's expensive. Got a
>speeding ticket...
 
Closest I've ever done is 140. Went screaming through a speed trap, too.
Blew the cop off...he pulled into the road with lights flashing and
siren wailing in his nice pretty Mustang GT, and by the time he was
on the road and moving I had jumped off at an exit and done a U-turn
across two lanes of traffic on the crossroad...he couldn't figure out
where I went and ended up racing off into the distance in *precisely*
the wrong direction. Just takes a little quick thinking, ya know?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:16:46
Message Number 17487

>63?
 
'67, I think. The '63 was something else. Memory fault.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:17:40
Message Number 17488

>Well, really, it depends on what year you are talking about...
 
The modern ones are still using 350 small blocks, right? I'd love to
know how they managed to make 'em so slow. Technology...bah! Who needs
it.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: HACMAN              
Subject: politics       
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:18:57
Message Number 17489

>Ever consider joining politics...
 
WAH ha ha ha ha ha ha! *gasp* *gasp* Hee hee hee hee...I get it.
 
>...to help correct the situation?
 
Yeah. Right.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:20:02
Message Number 17490

>I think I'd wet my pants if I was driving.
 
Nah...ya just gotta remember not to overdrive your visibility. At that
speed a sneeze can last a quarter of a mile...and that's plenty of time
to get yourself into trouble. Figure cars that are being piloted by
sane people and sticking to the speed limit are gonna be coming up on
you at a hundred miles per...it's kind of like driving an obstacle
course, only the obstacles move. I almost bought the farm when I was
driving from Sarasota to Ft. Myers at about one-twenty and this guy in
this Porsche travelling at fifty-five decided to change lanes right in
front of me...didn't realize that I was coming up on him with a relative
velocity that was *higher* than his actual velocity. Geeze...thought I
was a goner for a second, ended up on the friggin' shoulder still going
well over a hundred per. Hate when that happens.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Continuity     
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:27:31
Message Number 17491

There've been a few continuity errors in the Den recently...specifically
Shandra is now *outside*, and Louis was on his way to the shed when
Dragonfly's character arrived. Oh well.
===========

From: SHANDRA             
To: ALL                 
Subject: Moving along   
Date & Time: 06/11/91 01:33:19
Message Number 17492

"Huh?" I look around in surprise at the "hello"...evidently it wasn't
the kid speaking at all. Louis speaks briefly to the kid, who hands him
something that he snorts at contemptously and flicks into the sand.
I walk back toward the Den, where one of the patrons is standing. "Need
any help?"
   "Dunno yet. Don't know what's going on, really. I just got this bad
feeling, you know?" Behind me, I hear Luis talking to someone, who
sounds like...oh, no. "And my bad feeling just got worse." I re-enter
the bar and walk over to where Tampa is sitting. "Tampa, maam, I think
an old friend has just dropped by for a vist. This is going to be a fun
night." The patron who addressed me is standing by the door; I flick my
tail back over my shoulder and say, "How are you with a gun?"
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: SAAVIK              
Subject: hung up on GOD?
Date & Time: 06/11/91 12:20:58
Message Number 17493

>riding in the eye of a storm myself....
 
Wanna borrow my umbrella? Don't do much good against the nuclear 
fallout and sink holes at my place.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: hung up on GOD?
Date & Time: 06/11/91 12:22:47
Message Number 17494

>>>released him/her....Thanks!
 
No problem, I do it ever day. It's kind of like hearding cattle
every night before bed. Catch dem lil' frogs, chase the lizards 
back up the sliding glass doors (they're too fast to catch) and 
be sure no potentially dangerous bugs are lurking in the corners.
 
>>>incident gave me this moniker.
 
....I'll bite, got a story to share???   ;)
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Pres. Quayle   
Date & Time: 06/11/91 12:25:42
Message Number 17495

>>>snort the kind that /doesn't/ eat the ozone...
 
If probably would if I ever exhalled any...<grin> or if I ever
left this airtight garage (ol' HM strip...)
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toking/bagartin
Date & Time: 06/11/91 22:11:53
Message Number 17496

Copper tubing.  Pliable, yet strong. and you can curl it and bend it and
weld it and everything!
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/11/91 22:17:28
Message Number 17497

T>Just take a little quick thinking, ya know?
 
Ok, fine, but when you are in the middle of Kansas (at least 20 miles 
between exits) it ain't quite so easy to come up with a solution...
felt like a fly on a plate, knowwhatta mean?
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/11/91 22:20:36
Message Number 17498

TS>63?
T>'67, I think.
 
Musta been a typo...
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: rememb'rin'    
Date & Time: 06/11/91 22:21:40
Message Number 17499

T>I'd love to know how they managed to make 'em so slow.
 
Matter of compression. matter of smog control. matter of EGR and PCV
and all kinds of other valves to weigh it down.  Lousy transmissions
hooked up to kludgy rear end gear ratios.  Next question, please...
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