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     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86147)
     From: MITHELEN     To: MARKGRIFFITH

No, Makr, the problem is most definately a problem with the hardware,
specifically, the brain dead 6551. I spent almost 2 months diagnosing this
problem back about 2 or 3 years ago, and several hunderd $$$ in phone bills.
--
Paul

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86151 10-MAR 21:55 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86142)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: KSCALES

Hi Ken..
   Will your scsi47.ar drivers support more than 2 'N' series hard drives
on a disto scII/2-in-1 board or do I need another driver to get more than
2 hard drives. Currently I have a ST296N and a ST157N on-line and would
like to add 2 more ST157N's to the system.. I need the drive space!!!

   Nelson

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86156 11-MAR 05:01 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86151)
     From: KSCALES      To: NEHOWARD

 > Will your scsi47.ar drivers support more than 2 'N' series hard drives
 > on a disto scII/2-in-1 board or do I need another driver to get more than
 > 2 hard drives. Currently I have a ST296N and a ST157N on-line and would
 > like to add 2 more ST157N's to the system.. I need the drive space!!!

Hi, Nelson -

Sorry, but scsi47.ar was configured to handle a maximum of 2 drives.

I am not positive, but I believe that Matt Thompson's SCSISYS driver
will handle up to 7 drives.  There is a shareware version here in the
database, but I suggest that you order the registered version from
Northern Xposure, as it is faster, supports a cache, and includes a
6309 version.

Regards... / Ken
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86167 12-MAR 07:53 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86148)
     From: MARKGRIFFITH To: MITHELEN

Paul,

 > No, Makr, the problem is most definately a problem with the hardware,
 > specifically, the brain dead 6551. I spent almost 2 months diagnosing
 > this problem back about 2 or 3 years ago, and several hunderd $$$ in phone
 > bills. --

Well, I disagree with you.  I don't doubt that the 6551 is not the best
serial ACIA on the market, but it's limitations have nothing to do with
the speed of the data flow.

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86169 12-MAR 07:53 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86156)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: KSCALES

Only 2 huh??? bummer, trying to get around re-formatting!!! No better joy than
re-installing 127meg of data from floppy!  :) Yeah, I DL'd the version of
scsi System 10 from here to look at the docs and am probably gonna go to
I think he is up to ver 2.2 now but after the fest as I am working on some-
thing and dont really have the time to 'play' with drivers between now and
May 20.. In the docs to Matt's drivers he said that it was configured to
max out at 4 drives but hey, that is twice what I have now!
Thanx and have a fun one...

Nelson

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86175 12-MAR 15:00 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86169)
     From: KSCALES      To: NEHOWARD

Hi, Nelson -

 > bummer, trying to get around re-formatting!!! No better joy
 > than re-installing 127meg of data from floppy!

Matt's driver will also work using 256-byte sectors.  You should be able
to install it and suitable descriptors as a direct plug-in replacement
for scsi47.  (As far as I know...)

All it should take is building a new bootfile -- give it a try.

You can install and format your new (third) drive, copy the files from
one of your old drives over, reformat that one, restore from the third
drive, etc.  Should be "relatively" fast and painless.  You should be
able to continue using your system (cautiously -- don't change or move
any files that are subject to the backup/restore process, of course.).
Possibly an overnight job for "arc" or "dsave".  A secondary benefit is
that your old drive will end up being de-fragmented in the process.

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Alternatively, you could build a bootfile containing both Matt's driver
and scsi47 (but keeping the descriptor/harddrive names distinct), and
have the two co-exist during your transfer process.  (Though I really
don't think this will be necessary.)

Good luck... / Ken
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86176 12-MAR 15:08 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86175)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: KSCALES

Good ideas! I have a couple more ST157N's that I am considering adding to
the system. With the BBS on-line, a workstation wired in, 3 network mailers
running continuously, and me programming in yet another shell, this poor
ole machine is pretty stressed... If I can get 3 to 4 HD's up and running
correctly, I can allocate a mailer to each of a couple drives, my workstation
to another and the BBS to another and speed up the head seek situation as now
all of these are running off 2 HD's and the heads kinda keep busy finding data
at certain times of the day.. :)  Idealy, I would like to have 1 'main' process
running per drive and split the load up. Should be a tad faster(I hope!)
Thanx for the info/idea's...
Nelson

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86180 12-MAR 17:07 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86133)
     From: CBJ          To: NEHOWARD

I have no idea where to get any COMM 4 boards.  I'd love to get another myself.
I have a '486 null modemed and a terminal as well as two modems on the BBS.  I
wish the 14,400 modem could work at anything over 14,400 reliablely.  It is a
shame that the CoCo is stuck with the serial port (s) that are so CPU
intensive that they can't work well under OS-9.
Carl

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86185 12-MAR 21:36 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86180)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: CBJ

I too wish my 14,400 modems could work at anything over 14,400!!! :) Just
thought I would catch ya on that one! With all the talk of it being either
the serial port hardware or the acia driver being used as to why the
coco wont handle faster cps on xfers I often wonder if the 1.7mhz processor
would handle it even if the serial port would.. hhhmmmm....
Nelson

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86189 12-MAR 23:02 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86167)
     From: MITHELEN     To: MARKGRIFFITH

but, it sure as heck has a LOT to do with data integrity... which effect
throughput dramatically, when data constantly has to be resent.
--
Paul

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86193 13-MAR 02:49 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86189)
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: MITHELEN (NR)

Paul,

  If I remember correctly, you had CTS switched to DSR in an attempt to
bypass the CTS bug. I haven't seen your code changes for this, so I'm guessing
a bit.

  Gene Haskett also tried out the DSR-CTS swap, and had serious problems with
lost data at 9600. The data loss was not caused by the coco missing chars, it
was caused by the coco sometimes ignoring a flow off request. Gene spent an
excessive amount of time watching the signals with a scope looking for a
hardware problem when it finally dawned on us that it was software. With the
evidence in hand, it didn't take to long to find the gaping logic hole tha
could cause a missed DSR transition.

  So, in your testings, did you find this hole in the write routine? And if
so, did you come up with an elegant fix for it (right know, I just direct
hit the hardware)?

   Randy
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86204 13-MAR 11:40 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86185)
     From: CBJ          To: NEHOWARD

Well,
 in order for the 14,400 modem to work properly the manual says the computer
to modem baud rate should be no less than 38400 baud!  I'd be happy if I could
set the port at 19200 reliably.  Oh well,
TTYL,
Carl

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86207 13-MAR 12:55 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86204)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: CBJ (NR)

The manual for the modem says that?? Wow, I have a friend here that runs
a multi-node DOS based BBS with 3 14400 modems on-line and I know he doesnt
have the comm ports on his 386 locked at 38400bps... Wonder why it would
say that? hhhmmm..... got me thinking now!
Nelson

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86149 10-MAR 19:38 General Information
     RE: os9 under (Re: Msg 86145)
     From: JOHNBAER     To: BROWN80


   Still going strong.  Alan just mailed out the double issue.

--
   John -
         johnbaer@delphi.com      jbaer@pacs.pha.pa.us
   * IX 1.01 *   "Clipper Chip - Big Brother Inside !"

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86155 11-MAR 04:45 General Information
     RE: os9 under (Re: Msg 86149)
     From: BROWN80      To: JOHNBAER

Great! I'm really looking forward to getting it.
                        John Brown

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86150 10-MAR 21:26 Programmers Den
     What is the latest g++ version
     From: RHELLER      To: ALL

What is the latest version of g++ for OS-9/68K?  I have 1.39.1 (based
on gcc 1.40) presently installed.  I think I have seen something like version
1.42 of g++ at uwisc and version 2.5.6 of gcc.  Has any version of g++ 2.?.?
been ported to OSK?  Has any version of gcc/g++ been ported with really working
-g (generate usefull debug info for MicroWare's SrcDbg) or has gdb of some
flavor been ported to OSK?

If any of the above exists, where?

Robert Heller
heller@cs.umass.edu
1:321/153 on FidoNet
locks.hill.bbs@bix.com

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86159 11-MAR 19:21 Programmers Den
     RE: What is the latest g++ version (Re: Msg 86150)
     From: JOHNREED     To: RHELLER

 > What is the latest version of g++ for OS-9/68K?  I have 1.39.1 (based
 > on gcc 1.40) presently installed.  I think I have seen something like version

 > 1.42 of g++ at uwisc and version 2.5.6 of gcc.  Has any version of g++ 2.?.?
 > been ported to OSK?  Has any version of gcc/g++ been ported with really
working

...

1. The good news:  I found gcc ver 2.5.6 for OSK on cabrales -- now its
chestnut.cs.wisc.edu.

2. The bad news: It crashes with source that compiles OK with ver 1.42
on my MM/1a.  (I was compiling Ghostscript).  Someone on CIS (I think it
was Bob Van der Poel, but can't remember for sure) said he had the
same problem with ver 2.5.6, and suspected that it had some 68020-only
stuff in it. Might not be too hard to re-compile it to run on this MM/1a,
but it's a bigger project than I want to try.

As far as C++, the latest gpp I have is ver 1.37.1 -- based on 1.40 - I
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have only fiddled with it a little -- just past the "hello world" stage
--- but it seems to do what the C++ books say it should. ((Except for
"templates" -- it doesn't know what to do with those -- but that's
OK, I don't know what to do with them either.)) (GRIN).

           ********************************
 "Don't take life too serious - it ain't nohow permanent"
                                        (Pogo)

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86168 12-MAR 07:53 Programmers Den
     RE: What is the latest g++ version (Re: Msg 86150)
     From: MARKGRIFFITH To: RHELLER

Robert,

 > What is the latest version of g++ for OS-9/68K?

The latest one that is supposed to work correctly is 2.5.5.  It's available
via FTP from cabrales.


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86178 12-MAR 15:46 Programmers Den
     RE: What is the latest g++ version (Re: Msg 86168)
     From: RHELLER      To: MARKGRIFFITH


>> latest version 2.5.5
Is g++ or gcc?  On chestnut it *looks* like just gcc, not g++.


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86152 11-MAR 00:33 General Information
     Troubles
     From: NEWKID       To: ALL



I can use some help here!

Problem: Can boot system with hard drive on. Get boot fail mgs. With drive
(off) boots ok then turn drive on and chx dirs.

NOTE first word after Problem: should be CAN'T

System: 512k CC3,MPI (upgraded for CC3, no other mods) DMC disk controller,
B&B hard drive interface, 2 20meg Seagate drives.

Replys are welcomed.

Thanks in advance.

James


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86154 11-MAR 02:08 General Information
     RE: Troubles (Re: Msg 86152)
     From: COCOKIWI     To: NEWKID

Hmmmmm...sounds like a problem I had with the basic side......<grin>
B & B does some weird things with the software!
Hyperio will refuse to load if the H/D is not there or there is a error
in the Discriptor file,If it cannot see it it stops ......<DEAD>in its tracks.
looks like HIS os9 driver do the same thing..if it sees the interface it
jumps to the H/D....<ALLWAYS>.if there is something wrong! <ZAP>
I had a sim problem with my setup,now it works fine.....mine boots up and if
the H/D is flacky or the Drive is not there it jumps to the Boot disk instead!
one thing can louse one up is the CC3go and GrfDrv.....
and of course SHELL......
CC3go does NOT need to be in the BOOT file it will run happy in the ROOT of
the disk/H/D....SHELL and GRFDRV....MUST be in the Cmds file......
biggest cause of the dreaded OS-9 failed ......My BOOT disk has the above
in it.....CC3go takes up space in the BOOT file that can be used!not needed to
be moved unless you are finding the System 64k area fulling up
CLUE to this is NOT being able to Format a disk....
The Format command takes 10k space from the System area,and if it,s not there
no format!.......removing the CC3go file fixes THIS problem,but adds another
file one MUST remember to include,when making a boot disk!
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hope this helps a little...Dennis

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86165 12-MAR 03:02 General Information
     RE: Troubles (Re: Msg 86154)
     From: NEWKID       To: COCOKIWI


Hi Dennis

It just might be that my system is gettin old. Close to ten years now. I
reinstalled shell+ to the system and rechecked my boot file.  It seems
that when I boot and  the transfer is to be made between floppy and
hard drive. The hard drive seems to seek and then kicks back the boot
failed mgs.  BTW I do have CC3Go in Boot file.  I've also noted that
the clock is not working as before. Never did need to set it, now it
says something like Feb 16,1987 and one second after each boot. And,
I had term setup to be a blue screen with white letters, not it shows
s the old boot screen still at 40 characters. IT's just weird!

I will probably have to change hard drives. Or at least reformat
the first one. will keep you posted.


James

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86171 12-MAR 12:31 General Information
     RE: Troubles (Re: Msg 86165)
     From: KSCALES      To: NEWKID (NR)

James -

 > reinstalled shell+ to the system and rechecked my boot file.  It seems
 > that when I boot and  the transfer is to be made between floppy and
 > hard drive. The hard drive seems to seek and then kicks back the boot
 > failed mgs.

My CoCo memories are starting to get a little hazy, but as I recall:

The point at which the boot process changes from floppy to hard drive
can be determined by information in your Init file, which is one of the
three hidden files read from track 34 during booting.  The stock version
picks up OS9Boot from the floppy, then tries to switch to the hard drive
before loading Shell and GrfDrv from /h0/cmds.  (If it can't switch, it
will continue loading them from /d0.)

Important:  Shell and GrfDrv must BOTH be in /h0/cmds, and MUST have the
execution attribute set.  (Since you have re-installed Shell+, I bet this
latter point is your problem.)
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 >  BTW I do have CC3Go in Boot file.

Fine; that is safe.  As Dennis mentioned, some folks have moved this
out as an optimization.

 > I've also noted that
 > the clock is not working as before. Never did need to set it, now it
 > says something like Feb 16,1987 and one second after each boot. And,
 > I had term setup to be a blue screen with white letters, not it shows
 > s the old boot screen still at 40 characters. IT's just weird!

It sounds like you aren't accessing the same OS9Boot file that you were
before.  Possibly a different boot disk?  Possibly you had Init modified
to pull OS9Boot from /h0 instead of /d0, and are using a boot disk that
doesn't have the modified Init on Track 34?

BTW, you may also be using the device name "/dd" where I have mentioned
"/h0" above.

 > I will probably have to change hard drives. Or at least reformat
 > the first one. will keep you posted.
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I think that would be somewhat premature.  Since your hard drive works
fine AFTER you have booted (chx/chd), I would say that it is probably
still OK.

Good luck... / Ken
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86194 13-MAR 03:30 General Information
     RE: Troubles (Re: Msg 86165)
     From: COCOKIWI     To: NEWKID (NR)

HA!HA!!!!!<grin> change the battery on the CLOCK! sounds like the battery has
died....if it dies the DOS will die with it! see if that helps.....
if that don,t do it,figure the H/D is bad!OK!
Dennis

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86195 13-MAR 03:36 General Information
     RE: Troubles (Re: Msg 86194)
     From: COCOKIWI     To: NEWKID (NR)

I aggree with Kev .....You changed something that was different from what you
was using!<grin> how well I know! You setup a bootdisk that was probibly
an OLDER version of what you was using BEFORE your latest setup!
Dennis

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86153 11-MAR 01:50 Applications (6809)
     GShell
     From: ISC          To: ALL

I am just getting around to trying the GShell mods here for MVue and am
having two troubles.

   1.  When I get to GShell_1.24a the ipatch file for GShell_1.25 gives
me an error message "Incorrect file size...patch not complete."

   2.  So I thought I would just rename GShell_1.24a and use it as GShell,
but MVue can't find GShell if I do that.

   3.  As a side comment, when I tried GShell32.pat it wouldn't work either.
It said "Enter Gshell.Pat pathname....over and over and over no matter
what path I entered.

How does one get through this maze?

Thanks in advance.

Bill

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86192 13-MAR 01:08 Applications (6809)
     RE: GShell (Re: Msg 86153)
     From: CHYDE        To: ISC (NR)

The only help I can give is for #2, did you set the perms or make sure that
the perms are --e--ewr and is the new gshell in the cmds dir that MV is
using.  If you made the new gshell while MV was running you'll have to
reboot, since the old Gshell was in memory.  Maybe someone else can handle
the other 2.  Let me know if I can be of any more help.

        Chris
        (CHYDE)

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86157 11-MAR 08:17 System Modules (6809)
     RE: SMALL VDGINT (Re: Msg 86095)
     From: DONALDS      To: KSCALES

Thanks for the info. That is a lot more encoraging that the rumer(sp) that
there was something.
      Don
 PS) I am not a programmer but if he would like I might try it for him.
 But; I can wait either way.

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86158 11-MAR 08:18 General Information
     RE: internet mail (Re: Msg 86089)
     From: DONALDS      To: ILLUSIONIST

Thanks for the info.
don

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86160 11-MAR 21:08 OSK Applications
     OS9000 Article
     From: VAXELF       To: ALL

  If you get:

   PERSONAL ENGINEERING & INSTRUMENTATION NEWS

Look on page 60. There is a article about a company that developed a
blood analizer using OS9000 and RAVE. One thing it mentioned is that
one of the reasons for picking OS9000 over Windows 3.1 and UNIX is
because the OS9000 is a real time OS and that RAVE has builtin KANJI
support. One of their markets is JAPAN.

John D.

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86161 12-MAR 00:24 General Information
     IndiPWB 5.1
     From: ILLUSIONIST  To: ALL

There was an error in uploading this program, I uploaded the wrong config
file (I think) I have to check out which one I uploaded, and then have
to upload the correct one, I have asked Paul (MITHELEN) to take IndiPWB
off public DL for now, until I get the newer .sys file uploaded..

                                                         -* Mike

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86162 12-MAR 00:34 General Information
     question
     From: LLASHER      To: ALL

Hey, when are you all going to rename this Sig to the OSK Sig?
All the files are for OSK..
well.. at least all the new ones are.

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86164 12-MAR 01:02 General Information
     RE: question (Re: Msg 86162)
     From: ILLUSIONIST  To: LLASHER

OSK is a nickname for OS-9/68k..why rename the sig to a nickname? Besides
I believe Falsoft still funds the sig, its really up to them, I suppose..

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86163 12-MAR 00:47 General Information
     indipwb
     From: ILLUSIONIST  To: ALL

To all that have downloaded indipwb use this system file instead of the
one you have..(please remove the leading spaces, delphi will try to
interpret the /dd/cmds and /dd):

 LOCAL
 /dd/cmds
 /dd
 10
 random
 NONE
 list
 mdir e
 procs
 0
 4
 5
 1
 57
 63
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 0
 1

Use that as your indipwb.sys file, and you should be ok. How did the old
file get included? Human error, as we all know, computers dont make
mistakes, people do, I made changes to the source, and changes to MY
 /dd/sys/indipwb.sys file, but did not change the one in /dd/B09/source/misc
and THAT is the one I uploaded... sorry about that.. if anyone out ther
still has problems, please let me know..BTW, the archive should be "fixed"
soon, so anyone else that DL's in the future should be ok.

                                                         -* Mike

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86170 12-MAR 08:02 General Information
     RE: indipwb (Re: Msg 86163)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: ILLUSIONIST

Thanx....
   I'll give it a try and see what happens now.. I had never heard of the
error I got when trying the other one!! :)

   Nelson

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86166 12-MAR 06:04 General Information
     RE: Unix System V problem (Re: Msg 86071)
     From: ALWAGNER     To: DSRTFOX (NR)

We have a couple of workaholics that unfortunately stay quite late.  I have
suggested something similar to our sys.admin. (which is not me btw. I am just
the maintenance dept. ie, I am the only one in the dept!) My normal hours
are that I come in 1 1/2 to 2 hours before the office staff and leave 3 to
4 hours before some.  The sys.admin. unfortunately is also one of the earlier
arivals and really doesn't want to give the one who stays the latest the
commands to shut the system down to the level we have been discussing.  I know
this sounds discouraging to you for your suggestion, but I want to thank you
for your time, thought, and effort.

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86172 12-MAR 12:59 General Information
     RE: Hello All... (Re: Msg 86143)
     From: DBREEDING    To: REVWCP

 > I am using a RS-232 pak, even though I have a 4-in-1.  I am currently

Any reason for RS-232?  What about mods, which ACIA driver do you use?
How about interrupt mods?  I'm using the Disto Clock with the Bruce Isted-
type GIME Toggle.  I never did get it straight if this will replace such
mods as the "diode hack" or whatever. I would assume that if you use a
multipak that pin 8 should be strapped.  Need to check all this out...

I've been experimenting with my modem (Hayes 2400 Optima), on a local
BBS.  It links up using LAP-M, V.42bis, using protocol negotiation.  I
am using OSTerm.  My driver is Std ACIAPAK with increased buffer size.
When I have my computer set for 9600, there is a huge amout of character
droppage.  At 4800, I get pretty fair performance, but still lose some,
I think it's due to the screen printing. When the BBS sends a screenful,
it displays a prompt "*** Slap a Key ***", then backspaces and prints
the next line at that line when you "slap".  With destructive cursor turned
on in OSTERM, I think a backspace is converted to BS-Space-BS-(maybe another
BS??).
Anyway, that is one pt where I lose out.  However, you can really tell
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to get this to work.

 > using a Patriot 2400 baud modem, nothing fancy.

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86179 12-MAR 15:47 General Information
     RE: Hello All... (Re: Msg 86172)
     From: REVWCP       To: DBREEDING

I was using the Rs-232 pack, because as I remember, the 4-in-1 did not
support all the control lines.
With all best wishes,
Brother Jeremy, CSJW
OS9 User's Group Treasurer

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86190 12-MAR 23:08 General Information
     RE: Hello All... (Re: Msg 86179)
     From: MITHELEN     To: DBREEDING

You problems are caused by not having hardware flowcontrol when using
std ACIAPAK, which is necessary when using error correcting/data compressing
modem protocals. If you install SAcia, your lose of recieved caracter
problem will be solved... (assumeing your RS-232 device supports RTS/CTS)
--
Paul

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86200 13-MAR 10:53 General Information
     RE: Hello All... (Re: Msg 86179)
     From: DBREEDING    To: REVWCP

Yes, the lack of support lines is a drawback.  If you've been following
my thread with Tony Distefano, he said that the original 4in1's DID
have all the lines.  I have an MPI and Deluxe RS232, but hate to put
that bulky thing back in.

TTYL...


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86201 13-MAR 10:55 General Information
     RE: Hello All... (Re: Msg 86190)
     From: DBREEDING    To: MITHELEN (NR)

RE: not having hardware flow control.  I had the modem set for software
flow control, and figured that that would do the trick for ascii stuff.
I'm using the ACIAPAK with bigger buffers.  I have a disassembly of it, and
I noticed it sends XOFF when the buffer is full-16 bytes, (the original
sent it on 10 shy.  I've thought about possibly bumping it up to 25 or 30.

I just grabbed SACIA yesterday, never had gotten it, but I have a Disto
4in1 hooked up and it doesn't have the necessary lines.  I have an MPI &
Tandy Deluxe Pak, but for one thing I don't think the PAL chip has been
upgraded (I've used it, and didn't see any prob).  I got the pak from
CoCoPro and it was supposed to have a new pal in it, but the chip is dated
'86, I think and I believe it has Tandy on it, and I've heard that this is
an old chip.

If I use sacia.mpi, will I need to strap the #8 connectors in the mpi, or
can I get by without it?  I have the Disto Clock and it has been patched
with the Isted GIME toggle, so what else do I need to use the MPI (I used to
use it and got good results at 2400).  Won't these mods eliminate the need for
wiring a line straight to the IRQ of the CPU?  As I said, I've had pretty good
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luck at 2400, but have not tried the faster rates till now.

In looking over ACIAPAK, one thing that has me puzzled.. How does it keep from
halting when an XOFF character comes across in a binary file???

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86173 12-MAR 14:27 General Information
     RE: DISTO Products running Low. (Re: Msg 86139)
     From: DISTO        To: DBREEDING

No, cables do not come with the $100 base price. A set of three cables goes
for $30. If you want just 1, it will be $10. Yes, its a 16 pin cable. -Tony.

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86174 12-MAR 14:32 General Information
     RE: DISTO Products running Low. (Re: Msg 86138)
     From: DISTO        To: DBREEDING

If by local hardware control, you mean RTS/CTS control, then yes it can do it.
I suppose that there are different ways of doing local hardware control. We
made those mods (from a 16 pin to a 10 pin, and dropping a few lines) at the
request of Radio Shack/ Tandy because they wanted to carry the 4IN1 in their
line along with our SCII. It never happened, but we didn't want to change
the design again so we stayed with the 10 pin. -Tony.

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86198 13-MAR 10:10 General Information
     RE: DISTO Products running Low. (Re: Msg 86173)
     From: DBREEDING    To: DISTO (NR)

OK.. I'll get back to you.  As I said, I may be  upgrading to another type
machine soon, and don't know if I want to put much more into the CoCo, I'm
really just experimenting around with the thing, and am not sure that this
thing can even support data compression usefully or not.  I already have
a Tandy Deluxe interface, but, repeating myself again, I kinda hate to plug
that darn MPI back in, might affect my SC-2 etc, and they seem to work
flawlessly without it... thank you for these fine products.


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86199 13-MAR 10:10 General Information
     RE: DISTO Products running Low. (Re: Msg 86174)
     From: DBREEDING    To: DISTO (NR)

Uh-Huh, of course when you were selling them originally, there was no need
for RTS/CTS, because compression then was either unavailable or out of our
price range.  However, I have been playing around with my system on a local
BBS; I set my CoCo at 4800 baud and set it for XON/XOFF local control, and
I could tell a marked difference between the speed data was coming across
the screen at this rate, and when I was in asynchronous mode with 2400 baud
across them.  I was losing a few characters, I think due to screen printing,
and want to check it out further.  Thanks again for all you have done.


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86177 12-MAR 15:19 General Information
     MM/1A Mouse Salvation
     From: BOISY        To: ALL

Regarding the continuing mouse "problems" of the 68340'd MM/1:

I downloaded a set of mouse drivers for windio #38 from one of the Database
areas.  Lo and behold, the msdrv.t2.ms driver works with the Logitech mouse.

I had assumed that since Kevin Pease only included one mouse driver that
it was somehow different from the 070 one.  It doesn't seem so.  Right now
I have a Logitech  MouseMan serial hooked up, and all three buttons seem
to function properly.  James is trying out a Logitech Trackman now.

So those of you interested may want to try this out.

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86182 12-MAR 18:10 General Information
     RE: MM/1A Mouse Salvation (Re: Msg 86177)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: BOISY

Boisy,

Can you post an ident of that module? I have a friend who needs it and
I am sure I have a copy around somewhere, he may even already have it.

Thanks.


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86183 12-MAR 19:15 General Information
     RE: MM/1A Mouse Salvation (Re: Msg 86182)
     From: BOISY        To: COLORSYSTEMS

Here's the ident:

Header for:      msdrv
Module size:     $2AA        #682
Owner:           0.0
Module CRC:      $6E508C     Good CRC
Header parity:   $1C5A       Good parity
Edition:         $6          #6
Ty/La At/Rev     $C01        $A000
Permission:      $555        -----e-r-e-r-e-r
System Mod, 68000 obj, Sharable, System State Process


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86181 12-MAR 17:38 Telecom (6809)
     Telecom
     From: DENNYWRIGHT  To: ALL

Does anyone know what the crc value is of the latest/best Sacia T2 combo to use
for telecom purposes. I have built a new boot disk but I am experiancing lost
characters when connected to a BBS. Right now I am using the Sacia.mpi and
T2.dd from the Eliminat
or software archive in the databases here. Any ideas on why I may be losing
characters would be appreciated.

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86187 12-MAR 21:42 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Telecom (Re: Msg 86181)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: DENNYWRIGHT

One thing that comes to mind off the top of my head is the buffer size in
Sacia. What did you set that to? Also, is /t2 set for the same baud rate
as your connect speed? What about the baud rate of the window that you
are running the comm program in? Sometimes that may cause lost chars as
the data coming in from /t2 is faster than what can be displayed in teh
window...
Nelson

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86196 13-MAR 07:50 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Telecom (Re: Msg 86187)
     From: DENNYWRIGHT  To: NEHOWARD

How do I set the buffer size in Sacia? Same for T2 how do I set it's baud, wait
xmode will do t2 won't it? I am running os9 l2 w ith supercomm 2.2 and it says
t2=2400 the same as my modem is set to.

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86206 13-MAR 12:52 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Telecom (Re: Msg 86196)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: DENNYWRIGHT (NR)

Off the top of my head, I dont remember how to set the buffer size in Sacia
but I do remember seeing it in the docs for the eliminator software. If you
have that handy, check in there. I do remember seeing it there.
Nelson

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86184 12-MAR 19:55 Telecom (6809)
     9600 on a CoCo...
     From: KSCALES      To: NEHOWARD

Hi again, Nelson -

 > You can install and format your new (third) drive, copy the files from
 > one of your old drives over, reformat that one, restore from the third
 > drive, etc.  Should be "relatively" fast and painless.

Oops, I should have made it clear:  you should only need to do the
copy/reformat/restore steps if you want to reconfigure your old drives
for 512-byte sectors.  Otherwise, you should be able to continue using
them as long as you wish, with Matt's driver replacing scsi47.
 >
 > Good luck... / Ken
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 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237

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86186 12-MAR 21:39 Telecom (6809)
     RE: 9600 on a CoCo... (Re: Msg 86184)
     From: NEHOWARD     To: KSCALES

I kinda figured that, although, what would be the sense in going to the
newer driver without reformatting for the 512 byte sectors to gain the extra
drive space?? That would be the biggest reason there as well as the
advertised faster access times/read times. Do you know if anyone(Matt or
anyone else) has worked on the SCSI tape driver mentioned in the docs yet?
Now THAT would be a real bonus!!!
Nelson

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86188 12-MAR 22:58 General Information
     Size of RAM disk
     From: BRIANGOERS   To: ALL

I have not been able to find in the manuals for OS-9/68K, a description
on how to change the size of RAM disk. It boots up in one size about 127k.
I would like to make it about 1M or so. Where do you find the info in
the manuals or how do you do this.

Thank You for the help.

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86191 12-MAR 23:53 General Information
     RE: Size of RAM disk (Re: Msg 86188)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: BRIANGOERS (NR)

 > I have not been able to find in the manuals for OS-9/68K, a description
 > on how to change the size of RAM disk. It boots up in one size about
 > 127k. I would like to make it about 1M or so. Where do you find the info
 > in the manuals or how do you do this.


Use dmode to set the size how you want it. Save the descriptor and fix
the CRC with fixmod. Change the reference in your bootlist to the new
ramdisk descriptor and regen.


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86203 13-MAR 11:08 General Information
     RE: Size of RAM disk (Re: Msg 86188)
     From: WRHAMBLEN    To: BRIANGOERS (NR)

If you have the OS-9/68000 that is sold with the PT68K series board you
have a file in the IO directory called r0.a.  Chd to IO, edit the R0.a file
for the size of ramdisk you want and make r0.  Chd to the CMDS/BOOTOBJS
directory and os9gen a new boot file.  Reboot the system and ther is your new
bigger ramdisk.

Bud

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86197 13-MAR 09:39 OSK Applications
     diskcat by Bob van der Poel
     From: JOHNBAER     To: ALL


     With Bob's permission, I uploaded diskcat.lzh to the database.
This is a Shareware program that Bob did that will catalog your
floppy disk for you.  Works with 256, 512, 1024 sector disk for OSK,
and the source code is included.  It should work with any osk box.

     Bob is testing the shareware waters with low cost programs
for osk.  Take a look at this one and let him know what you think.

     His mail address is:  IN%"76510.2203@compuserve.com"

     Note the `.' is used and not the `,' for mail to compuserve..

--
   John -
         johnbaer@delphi.com      jbaer@pacs.pha.pa.us
   * IX 1.01 *   "Clipper Chip - Big Brother Inside !"

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86202 13-MAR 11:06 General Information
     MM1 & SCSI
     From: DBREEDING    To: NIMITZ

In mail, in discussing the use of SCSI-2 drives whith the MM1, you said:

 > the current systems are SCSI 1 only.   Newer systems will work with both
 > though, I understand that SCSI 2 drives will respond ok to standard SCSI
 > but just more slowly.  (good question for forum, I suppose!)

By more slowly, do you simply mean slower than SCSI-2?  They would still be
as fast as their SCSI-1 counterparts, wouldn't they?

 > 1 meg RAM is standard, I reccomend an additional 2.

I would think that 3 meg would be minimal for most applications.



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86205 13-MAR 12:44 General Information
     RE: MM1 & SCSI (Re: Msg 86202)
     From: NIMITZ       To: DBREEDING (NR)

As for the RAM, I have found 3 megs to be adequate for the majority of program
ports and applications currently available.   More RAM is always nice, and the
ability to expand to 8 megs is on the way.   I've already paid Kevin Pease for
the package needed
to get 8 meg upgrade buss cards made, and intend to be ready to offer them for
sale soon.   Pricing is not yet firm though, as I've yet to  cost the
production firmly.

               David Graham
                BlackHawk Enterprises, Inc.


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