From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: instinct       
Date & Time: 11/07/90 22:03:04
Message Number 10301

Xenophobia is fear of strangers or fear of anything different from
yourself (for example, fear of blacks, fear of gays, and the like).
The fact that there may be genetic predispositions toward behavioral
trends has nothing to do with nonsense like a "link" between blacks and
crime. 'Crime' is not a single basic behavior pattern or reaction.
Fear, anger, and /basic/ drives can be influenced (not controlled!)
by genetics, but complex behavior (like robbing cars) is not. Also,
a genetic predisposition does /not/ mean the person who has it will
behave that way, any more than a person with a predisposition toward
addictive behavior is going to become an alcoolic. It still takes
something in the environment (generally) to 'trigger' the behavior.
(There is also no known or suspected genetically-influenced behavior
trait that's limited to members of one particular race; most
behaviors of that sort aren't even limited to humans!)
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: UltraSheep     
Date & Time: 11/07/90 22:09:19
Message Number 10302

>How many colors will the Ultrasheep (tm) shirt have?
 
Four or six, hence the cost.
 
>And what font will UltraSheep be in?
 
UltraSheep is a porcelain planter! Planters don't have fonts.
The /foliage/ UltraSheep will be in is Venus flytraps, though.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: -ALL-               
Subject: It's coming!   
Date & Time: 11/07/90 22:13:16
Message Number 10303

   The second annual RufusCon is happening this month. Stay
tuned for details, and remember: "If this gets in the hands of
the Russians, it's curtains for the free world."
===========

From: MAX                 
To: SPELLWIND           
Subject: ST:TNG         
Date & Time: 11/07/90 23:41:08
Message Number 10304

> Hecate and Athena are the same.
 
No, they're not.  Athena was the goddess of wisdom; Hecate was the
goddess of magic.  Only the same if you take a Zen approach to the whole
thing and say that all of them, along with all other female deities,
are all avatars of "the" Goddess.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Heinlein       
Date & Time: 11/07/90 23:50:41
Message Number 10305

> Of his later works, I like Stranger in a Strange Land the most...
 
When people attempt to divide Heinlein's works into "early" and "late,"
it's usually based around his stroke, which happened around 1970.
"Stranger" was written before that, so it really isn't one of his
"later" novels -- even though it was very different in tone from most of
the ones written before it, it had a lot of the philosophies that were
undercurrents in them.  Most of the ones written after "Stranger" were
rehashes of that original theme.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: DIONYSUS            
Subject: PS             
Date & Time: 11/08/90 00:00:27
Message Number 10306

> ...IBM really deserves credit for being what they are in the computer
> world!
 
Hear, hear!  I wish more people would realize they're overpriced, badly
designed computers backed by a company with the most egotistical We Are
Everything attitude ever seen in American industry.  Thanks, but no
thanks.  I could put together a software package, comprised mostly of
public domain & shareware utilities, that would bring MS-DOS up to
near the level of Z-System, but it'd still be missing a few extremely
useful things and would take up about four or five times as much disk
space (and not run appreciably faster than a 64180 or Z8400-based Z
computer unless it was installed on a 386) -- but a lot of people
wouldn't use it, because (and I am not making this up) it would be TOO
CHEAP TO BE GOOD.  Come again?  That's right, a program that doesn't
have a three-digit pricetag can't be useful.  That attitude, combined
with (a) the solution to slow program execution is a faster CPU and
(b) the solution to bloated program code is to buy more memory, is what
IBM really deserves credit for.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: heinlein       
Date & Time: 11/08/90 00:10:44
Message Number 10307

Orson Card is an excellent writer -- I think he's one of the best
writers (along with William Gibson, Michael Bishop and Emma Bull) in the
sf/fantasy field today.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Illumination   
Date & Time: 11/08/90 00:21:54
Message Number 10308

The deadline for Mythagoras #4 is mid-December (December 13, I believe).
The publication date is February 1st (NOT January -- this issue came
out November 1st, and it's a quarterly, not a bimonthly!).  The months
of publication are listed in the indicia, and it's always going to be
out in the first week of the publication month (assuming we're on
schedule).
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: RUFUS               
Subject: scratcing      
Date & Time: 11/08/90 03:08:04
Message Number 10310

>Every simmer?  Was it a yearly ritual?  :)
Yes it was, it was the most painful 6 years of my life.  The only good
thing about it was that I lived in Pennsylvania and it did not get too 
warm up their, at least not till after most of the poison ivy went away.
                              * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: KOOL KAT            
To: RUFUS               
Subject: UltraSheep     
Date & Time: 11/08/90 08:50:53
Message Number 10311

I would like to congtadulate the MSTF for a GREAT job on the new
Mythagoras. It was AWESOME (If a little expensive.)
 
                                       Rowr!
                                       The Kat
===========

From: KOOL KAT            
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Rowr!          
Date & Time: 11/08/90 08:53:17
Message Number 10312

Of COURSE TV Guide is biased. That's what it there for.
Just kidding....  By the way BEATLE, I'm baaaaaack!
===========

From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: gas chamber    
Date & Time: 11/08/90 18:24:25
Message Number 10315

> I would rather retch in a gas chamber than listen to their album,
   
I wonder if I could arrange that for you.  Yes 2 Live Crew is offensive 
but I do like some of their songs.  Let me clarify, I don't like rap but
I do like the F*ck Shop and Me So Horny. 
===========

From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Drug legaliz...
Date & Time: 11/08/90 19:12:59
Message Number 10316

A friend of mine,(non-BBSer) feels, and I agree, that we should legalize
drugs.  The government could pay off the national debt in no time, and a
save money on drug enforcement to boot.  Also it would get rid of many
of heavy drug-users  though overdose.  Make drugs affordable and 
plentiful, users buy more, overdose and die.  I know then you have to 
deal with all those dead bodies.  But look at the benefits.
   Who knows, maybe people would actually brighten up and stop using
drugs.  
.s
===========

From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: KEN SABLE           
Subject: And Noone      
Date & Time: 11/08/90 19:26:38
Message Number 10317

Hey this is Scott Steel 
I haven't sign on in three weeks.  And I,m now half way though the 400 
and some odd new messages, and to be blunt.  They suck.  Nothing but 
bullshit about religion, and computers, and more stupid shit.  
The topic of drug legalization is interesting.
===========

From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: SPELLWIND           
Subject: You HOSERS     
Date & Time: 11/08/90 19:37:28
Message Number 10318

> I resent that statement.
   
No, you resemble that statement.
===========

From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Drugs          
Date & Time: 11/08/90 19:39:32
Message Number 10319

Addictions   Nicotine and music. 
Occasional use of illegal substances. 
If you don't like it, tough shit.  I'm just putting my two cents in.
And yes I think drugs should be legalized.
             Thank you, good day.
             Scott Steel
===========

From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: An issue       
Date & Time: 11/08/90 19:53:46
Message Number 10320

New Kids on the Block    should be tortured slowly and forced to listen 
to 2 Live Crew to be properly corrupted.  
The Fags on the Corner
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: ELF                 
Subject: SPECIALIST     
Date & Time: 11/08/90 20:30:42
Message Number 10321

E>WHO IS THIS CHARACTER?
 
Who the hell are you?  Besides, why do you ask?
 
Ah, never mind...I probably don't care anyway.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: ELF                 
Subject: GOTCHA         
Date & Time: 11/08/90 20:31:57
Message Number 10322

E>SO...., I HAVE MANAGED TO TRACK YOU HERE.  WATCH YUR BACK!
 
Eh?  Where did you track me from last?  
 
  And why have you taken an interest in me, anyway?
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 11/08/90 20:36:08
Message Number 10323

Lazarus Long was actually a fairly interesting character.  Not as 
interesting as some of Hienlien's other characters, but still...
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Heinlein       
Date & Time: 11/08/90 20:38:12
Message Number 10324

T>Fear is the mind-killer.  Fear is the little death that brings total
T>obliteration. I will face my fear.  It will wash over and through me.
T>When it is gone, Only I will Remain.
 
Could it have been Young Paul Atraides, from the book Dune, by Frank
Herbert?
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: ELF                 
Subject: Never mind     
Date & Time: 11/08/90 20:42:07
Message Number 10325

E>AJ already warned me!
 
Ah, so then, are you a faggot?  That'd make you a Gender Bender.
  
     SICK SICK SICK         SICK            SICK SICK
     SICK              SICK      SICK    SICK  
     SICK              SICK      SICK    SICK
     SICK SICK         SICK SICK SICK    SICK    SICK
     SICK              SICK      SICK    SICK      SICK
     SICK              SICK      SICK    SICK      SICK
     SICK              SICK      SICK       SICK SICK
 
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: suggestion     
Date & Time: 11/08/90 20:52:00
Message Number 10326

Try "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel"...pulp but excellent.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Books          
Date & Time: 11/08/90 21:30:48
Message Number 10327

I'd like to know what happened to the movie for Neuromancer.  If done
right, it would be a very good movie.  Anyone care to play that ever
popular game "cast the characters"?
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: UltraSheep     
Date & Time: 11/08/90 21:34:21
Message Number 10328

>an A/R T-shirt, an UltraSheep T-shirt, and an "I Visited Sunny Beiruit,
God's Own Paradise on Earth...."
 
Hmm...you should slip a "Uncle Bob's" shirt in there...
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: KOOL KAT            
Subject: UltraSheep     
Date & Time: 11/08/90 21:41:23
Message Number 10329

>I would like to congtadulate the MSTF for a GREAT job on the new
>Mythagoras. It was AWESOME (If a little expensive.)
 
Well, you should probably direct that comment to Bart or Max.  Rufus,
owned by Rufus, Ltd., is in no way associated with the MSTF.
 
>                                  Rowr!
 
Rowr! back at ya.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: gas chamber    
Date & Time: 11/09/90 01:11:13
Message Number 10331

>...I don't like rap but I do like the F*ck Shop and Me So Horny.
 
I'm very sorry to hear that. Is there anything I can do to help?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Drugs          
Date & Time: 11/09/90 01:12:54
Message Number 10332

>And yes I think drugs should be legalized.
 
Oh, good thinking. People can go to 7-11 and buy some crack and a little
angel dust for the party this evening, hmm? "Hey, there's a sale on
Michelob, and look, there's another on instant psychosis in powder
form!" No thanks, I've seen what happens when people do that shit; I'm 
not convinced that making it *more* available is gonna solve the drug
problem.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 11/09/90 01:15:09
Message Number 10333

Lazarus Long's only redeeming trait was his endless supply of pithy
quotes, which he spewed forth at great length without provocation.
Most of his philosophy (or actually Heinlein's philosophy) was rather
silly, though.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Books          
Date & Time: 11/09/90 01:17:00
Message Number 10334

>I'd like to know what happened to the movie for Neuromancer.
 
?? Huh ?? I'm still wondering what happened to the movie version of
"Watchmen." Was there a movie in the works for Neuromancer?
 
>Anyone care to play that ever populat game "cast the characters"?
 
Case: Matt Freuer.
Molly: Sigourney Weaver.
Armitage: Um, that's a tough one.
Rivera: Lessee. What we need is one sick, evil, twisted mother here.
   How 'bout Mickey Rourke?
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: peachs         
Date & Time: 11/09/90 18:03:11
Message Number 10335

There was no beep. There is no MCI on this system. Everything is
perfectly safe and sane. You are OK. You love Big Brother. 
   
   Orgy-porgy,
        /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: UltraSheep     
Date & Time: 11/09/90 18:07:12
Message Number 10336

B> I had no idea there were LAWS to absurdity.
    
   Of course! The First Law of Absurdity is that absurdity will follow
no laws.
            /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Huh?           
Date & Time: 11/09/90 18:09:21
Message Number 10337

My dear sir, you payed that much for the quality of the magazine. Notic
all of those wonderful words on the inside! And the beautiful type-
setting! Not only that, but also notice the fine paper used. Do you
truly believe that paper grows on trees? My dear sir, you did not
merely purchase a magazine; you have helped the American Dream plod
along! 
             /Dragonfly/
     
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: Deutch         
Date & Time: 11/09/90 18:12:45
Message Number 10338

Not bad. Though you've still got quite a bit of an American accent.
               /der Deutscher/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Solipsism      
Date & Time: 11/09/90 18:15:29
Message Number 10339

R> I made up a few events to spruce the paper up, and named the 
R> cat Omaha. <snicker>
     
   Heh heh heh! I'm curious: with a name like that, what events did
you add to the cat's life? Purr!
           /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: And Noone      
Date & Time: 11/09/90 18:26:36
Message Number 10340

>...and to be blunt. They [the messages] suck.
     
   Okay. What topics are interesting to you? Start up something!
               /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Drugs          
Date & Time: 11/09/90 18:30:33
Message Number 10341

T> I'm not convinced that making it *more* available is gonna solve
T> the drug problem.
     
   How would you solve the drug problem?
             /Dragonfly/
===========

From: KEN SABLE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: And Noone      
Date & Time: 11/09/90 21:40:17
Message Number 10342

Hey, I like the SuperBrain characterset!!!!
===========

From: WIND STAFFER        
To: ALL                 
Subject: Bit Net        
Date & Time: 11/09/90 22:19:56
Message Number 10344

Can Someone help me get a bitnet connection. I am new to the city and 
need help to contact relatives and friends through bit-net. Please
respond in either e-mail or here.
n 
 
 
           -Wind-
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: mci            
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:02:01
Message Number 10346

Oh. No message wrap!( he reals with shock and disgust!)
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Cyberpunk      
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:03:18
Message Number 10347

My apologies, I read (some where, I'll tell you where when I find the 
article.) that W. Gibson coined the term "Cyberpunk" Perhaps my last 
message was unclearly written. I do like Bruce Sterling though...
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: 42             
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:06:04
Message Number 10348

> 16 small flightless birds, and blue.
  
     And Gravy! You always forget the gravy!
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Prolog         
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:08:17
Message Number 10349

Have you heard of Prolog? It's an AI programming language that came out
in '86, for fifth generation super-computers, but the language is now 
available (SP.?) for IBM and compatibles. I was just wondering if any 
one had heard about a new version for 1990-91?
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Pixel          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:12:29
Message Number 10350

The cat pixel can walk through walls because he's to young to know that
he can't. (I think that was what the explanation was?!?) I dunno...
One of my cats (His name is Trible) cab materialize at the refridgerator
door just before you open it.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: MAX                 
Subject: IBM            
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:20:42
Message Number 10351

IBM Is rumored to be preparing to market a "Transputer" (five small
computers linked in one box) in late 1991. It's capable of running over
10,000 functions simultaneously, and it will be One fifth the power of
a Cray super-computer at one one hundreth the price.
 (This is a rumor and it will probably never happen but wouldn't it be
 FUN!!!!)
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: MAX                 
Subject: orson          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:25:49
Message Number 10352

Have you read "Ender's Game"?
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: oh yeah!       
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:29:06
Message Number 10353

WHY ARE THE MESSAGES BEING MIXED TOGETHER!!! WHAT'S GOING ON? HELP!!!!
I'M MELTING!!!!!
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:31:12
Message Number 10354

Cats... I'm addicted to cats too. (Take it any way you want to.)
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: dune           
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:34:25
Message Number 10355

My we have some literate people here! Very good!
          Bene Geserit Saying...
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject:               
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:35:31
Message Number 10356

How about...
   "I just have a slight Eodipus complex."
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: cast           
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:38:28
Message Number 10357

Wendy 'O Williams could be Molly! (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....HACK!)
Dom deLuise could be the voice of Wintermute.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Heinlein       
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:42:19
Message Number 10358

>silly...
 Silly yes.  But entertaining when you want light reading.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: peachs         
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:44:20
Message Number 10359

AAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
 
          
      Thanks... I'm feeling much better now. 
>Big brother...
     What about big sister? (Her name's Gurt.)
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Accents        
Date & Time: 11/10/90 10:47:24
Message Number 10360

I took six years of German from an Italian teacher, So I speak German
with an Italian accent.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Books          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 11:23:10
Message Number 10361

Yeah, there was discussion of a movie for Neuromancer.  I'm not sure
how far they got.  I'll see if I can find out some more info.  And
I was thinking of Sigourney Weaver as Molly, too.  I should go back and
re-read that book, it's been a few years...
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Solipsism      
Date & Time: 11/10/90 11:25:31
Message Number 10362

>...with a name like that, what events did you add to the cat's life?
 
Sheeesh....you people (insects, whatever) are bizarre.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Pixel          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 11:27:33
Message Number 10363

>The car pixel can walk through walls because he's to young to know that
>he can't.
 
Gee, sounds like "I haven't learned about gravity yet, so it doesn't
affect me."  Classic Toon gag.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject:               
Date & Time: 11/10/90 11:29:25
Message Number 10364

Thanks, I just got a copy of it. OH YES!!!! OH YES!!! I love it. I'm 
thinking about Turbo C++Pro by borland. Any good?
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: cast           
Date & Time: 11/10/90 11:30:39
Message Number 10365

>Wendy 'O Williams could be Molly!
 
Who's Wendy 'O Williams?
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Prolog         
Date & Time: 11/10/90 14:56:05
Message Number 10366

The best version of Prolog I've found was the one made by Borland.
Like their Turbo Pascal, they've made quite a few changes to the
language, but it's much faster than any other Prolog out.
   The Japanese really love Prolog. One of their companies made/ will
be making a machine whose assembly code will be/is Prolog! (To me,
that seems a waste of chip space.) 
   I haven't heard of any new versions for 90/91, though. I'll keep
an ear out.
              /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Accents        
Date & Time: 11/10/90 15:03:58
Message Number 10368

T1> So, I speak German with an Italian accent.
    
   I'd hate to find out what THAT sounds like...
     
   Achtung! Bringst mir das Spaghetti! Und, aye! Madre de Dios!, das
Wein!
             /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/10/90 15:07:32
Message Number 10369

"If there's anything I can do, it's land a plane stoned."
"...except if you count the times he sold drugs dressed as a nun!"
"And I gave her the Stars and Stripes Forever."
    
   Heavy Metal was a wonderful movie. Now, where does THIS quote come
from:
    
   "We've got clearance, Clarence."
      "What?"
   "What's our vector, Victor?"
    
          /Dragonfly/
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: KEN SABLE           
Subject: And Noone      
Date & Time: 11/10/90 20:08:50
Message Number 10370

>Hey, I like the SuperBrain characterset!!!!
 
Liar.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: 42             
Date & Time: 11/10/90 20:10:04
Message Number 10371

>And Gravy! You always forget the gravy!
 
And gravy, I know. The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything
needs gravy. It's also excellent with a blush wine, but a white's just
out of the question...it totally overwhelms the flavor. I still
like Spaghetti-O's better, though.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Prolog         
Date & Time: 11/10/90 20:12:22
Message Number 10372

I've heard of Prolog; most of what I've heard about it isn't that
positive. It's excellent for expert systems, but it's not really
flexible enough for real AI applications--all of Prolog is an extended
If...Then...Else statement. It's also available for a lot more
platforms than supercomputers and IBM's. 
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Pixel          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 20:14:19
Message Number 10373

Cats in general have a built-in short-distance teleportation
ability. A cat can blampf from almost any point within a house
to the refrigerator instantly; they can also blampf into closed
cupboards, to underneath your feet, and to the door if they hear
something interesting. They never do it when they're being watched,
though.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: IBM            
Date & Time: 11/10/90 20:16:04
Message Number 10374

>IBM Is rumored to be preparing to market a "Transputer"...
 
Atari already makes one, although they don't sell it in this country.
It has as many processors as you can afford and fully configured is
just a hair faster than a Cray supercomputer.
 
If IBM makes this device, I'm sure they'll manage to screw it up
somehow. The IBM RT is a good RISC workstation botched by a bad
operating environment (it can run a Unix clone, but only as a satellite
task under RT-OS!) and Micro Channel Architecture. Running a RISC
machine on Micro Channel is like hitching a U-Haul to your Corvette.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/10/90 20:23:52
Message Number 10375

>Now, where does THIS quote come from:
 
Airplane, the movie. How 'bout:
 
"DADDY would have gotten us Uzi's!"
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Books          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 21:31:49
Message Number 10376

> ...Matt Freuer [Frewer]... Sigourney Weaver...
 
  That would make it worth the admission for me! That sounds like an 
interesing pairing...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Huh?           
Date & Time: 11/10/90 21:33:13
Message Number 10377

> you have helped the American Dream plod along!
 
  I'm certainly glad that buying a magazine helps that... I'd like the
production to be a little more cost effective, though..
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/10/90 21:38:54
Message Number 10378

> "We've got clearance, Clarence."
 
  Sounds like "Airplane!" to me!
 
  "Don't call me Roger..." (I THINK that's right...)
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Static         
Date & Time: 11/10/90 22:11:51
Message Number 10380

>cat static thing....sounds good.
Not too long now it'll kill'm.  I
actually knew someone who killed their cat that way.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: An issue       
Date & Time: 11/10/90 22:20:11
Message Number 10381

Yeah thats it. Wasn't that the 
one they made from peach pits or
something.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: c.o.c.         
Date & Time: 11/10/90 22:32:22
Message Number 10382

>Anyone care to play that game    cast of characters?.....
Not acquainted with it ...elaborate.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Deutch         
Date & Time: 11/10/90 22:37:56
Message Number 10383

Her Dragonfly.  Ich sprecht 
Deutsch sehr gut, aber du bist 
einer gut Her fur [recognizing 
poor] Deutsch.  I think...
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Pixel          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 22:46:22
Message Number 10385

Funny my cat does the same thing....right out of thin air.  And if thats
not enough,  if you're a little   slow with the handout, she'll try and 
grab it out of your hand.  Looks  real funny when she just came out of 
the dryer (he..he..he).
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: oh yeah!       
Date & Time: 11/10/90 22:49:49
Message Number 10386

Soylent Green.  That was a ridiculous movie (if you can call it that).  
Not one of Charlton Heston's better movies.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/10/90 22:56:21
Message Number 10387

It came from 'Airplane'.  Starring whats his name and whose itz...Leslie
Nielson.  Not a bad movie for an evening of mindless entertainment.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Pixel          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 22:59:55
Message Number 10388

I thought they voompfed not        blampfed..
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/10/90 23:04:00
Message Number 10389

Hey one of the disadvantages of where I work is I have to let them know 
which Saturdays I want off.  PLEASE let me know 
ASAP so I can tell the 
big guy.  Better yet if its on a  Sunday it would make life much more
enjoyable for this poor user.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: ALL                 
Subject: mag's          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 23:07:31
Message Number 10390

Ummm, whatever that message was, it just turned up blank.  I dunno if
it's you or Turtle's screwy software. .  Grr, I wonder how bad it just
maimed that line since I hit delete.
 
   ....screwy software, are you insane.  It's perfect, if you enjoy
search
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: ALL                 
Subject: chair          
Date & Time: 11/10/90 23:10:19
Message Number 10391

Hey has anybody got an office style chair they'd like to sell.  Right 
know I'm sitting on a strait back chair.  After sitting here reading all
the messages, my tukus get soar.  (hense the conference this msg is 
listed in).  Reasonable quality would be appreciated and free would be 
nice too.  However I'd go up to   at least 2/3 million for a good one.  
I know this isn't a /real/ message but I'm working at it.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/11/90 11:55:58
Message Number 10392

"If it's one thing I can do, it's drive when I'm stoned."
 
The quote you mentioned was from Airplane.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/11/90 11:58:12
Message Number 10393

>"DADDY would have gotten us Uzi's!"
 
No idea.  How about this:  "Oh shit, there goes the neighborhood."
 
Hey, wait a sec, didn't this little game start on my board? 
[Uncle Bob's Alligator Farm and Tofu Museum.  371-3498 3/12/2400
hit return twice after connecting]
 
  ...hope that slipped past the shameless plug detector.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BURNEY              
Subject: c.o.c.         
Date & Time: 11/11/90 12:00:52
Message Number 10394

Ok. seriously... 
     James Earl Jones for the voice of Wintermute.
     Harry Dean Stanton could be Dixie the construct.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: Deutch         
Date & Time: 11/11/90 12:15:37
Message Number 10396

Herr Burney!
   Thanks for the compliment... I think. 
            /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: oh yeah!       
Date & Time: 11/11/90 12:17:17
Message Number 10397

   Soylent Green was a ridiculous movie. But it still was better than
the book.
          /Flying Draco/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: chair          
Date & Time: 11/11/90 12:19:25
Message Number 10398

>I know this isn't a /real/ message but I'm working at it.
     
    WARNING TO USER: All preceding messages have not been real messages.
All users, characters, and quotations are a work of fiction. Any
resemblence between these characters and actual people is merely a
coincidence. If this had been an actual message, the FCC, in concordance
with state and local authorities, would have notified you of this
fact. Close cover before striking.
              /Dragonfly/
===========

From: MAX                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: IBM            
Date & Time: 11/11/90 23:31:56
Message Number 10399

It would be interesting if IBM came out with a transputer, but I suspect
they'd screw it up if they actually did.  Oddly enough, Atari has had a
transputer on the market for over two years using the T800 architecture;
you can drop in more CPU boards and it becomes faster with each one
plugged in.  I think it takes 5 of them to equal a Cray II, which works
out to about $25,000 -- less than a top-of-the-line Compaq Systempro.
    The catch is that Atari doesn't sell it in America, even though they
are an American computer company.  In Europe, the Atari 16/32-bit
computer line outsells MS-DOS machines and there are Atari Transputer
Workstations out there in universities and some corporate installations.
In America, though, you can show somebody an Atari TT -- 4 megs of RAM,
a 25 MHz 68030, higher-than-SuperVGA graphics, stereo music, both Unix
and the native DOS (an enhanced version of CP/M-68K) -- and they'll
say, "Atari?  Didn't they make Pac-Man?" and dismiss the computer
without looking at it.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: orson          
Date & Time: 11/11/90 23:39:52
Message Number 10400

> Have you read "Ender's Game"?
 
Yes, along with its sequel (Speaker for the Dead).  Both excellent
books.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: BURNEY              
Subject: mag's          
Date & Time: 11/11/90 23:47:07
Message Number 10401

> What's all this I hear about a magazine.
 
It's "Mythagoras," which is a science fiction/fantasy/comics magazine
with a focus on anthropomorphics.  It is edited by and features work by
several people floating around the local BBS scene, as well as some
nationally-recognized small press writers and artists.  The current
issue is #3 and there are no back issues available currently, although
both 1 and 2 will be printed again in 1991.
 
> Where can I get a complimentary copy to see if I might want to buy one
> later...
 
Um, well, basically, nowhere.  Our normally limited budget is at this
point extremely limited, and even in the best of circumstances, free
copies are generally reserved for trades with other 'zines, reviewers
and for soliciting contributions from writers and/or artists who may not
get a chance to see Mythagoras otherwise.
   Issue #3 is on sale at The Time Machine in Bradenton (in Southwood
Plaza on	 U.S. 41, about 3 miles north of the airport), with a cover
price of $3.95.  It will also be on sale at any furry party.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: oh yeah!       
Date & Time: 11/11/90 23:54:55
Message Number 10402

"Soylent Green" was NOT a ridiculous movie.  It may have had some
problems, but on the whole it was one of the best science fiction
movies produced to date, one of the few genre works that doesn't assume
sf has to be escapist and that the best "future" movie is the one that
asks you to turn off your brain for the duration.
===========

From: DIONYSUS            
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Never mind     
Date & Time: 11/12/90 00:08:56
Message Number 10403

My, that was cute.
===========

From: DIONYSUS            
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Prolog         
Date & Time: 11/12/90 00:12:43
Message Number 10404

Psst - know how I might be able to get a version of Prolog (cheap) for
MS-DOS machines, other than just a public domain student version?  I
the bottom-of-the-line public domain student version, and any step up
would be greatly appreciated, even if it is still public domain.  I
think the version I have is PDPROLOG (not sure of the version) from
Dittell's board (Suncoast City).  Also, are you aware of any cheap or
free versions of LISP?
===========

From: DIONYSUS            
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 11/12/90 00:19:13
Message Number 10405

I take it that you are simply fond of them.  I am too, and just happen
to have mine curled up in my lap as I type.  He's great; kinda old,
though, and has a tendency to drool and shake spit all over my keyboard.
Funny - he only does that when I'm working at the computer.
===========

From: DIONYSUS            
To: TURTLE              
Subject: 42             
Date & Time: 11/12/90 00:25:10
Message Number 10406

I know very little of lisp, but I have an updated version of prolog now.
(Thanks for the offer though.)
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: toons          
Date & Time: 11/12/90 20:07:23
Message Number 10407

>Classic toon gag.
 Vewy funny you scwewy wabbit!!!!
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/12/90 20:08:36
Message Number 10408

I don' know. I Give. What is it?
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: music          
Date & Time: 11/12/90 20:16:52
Message Number 10412

Speaking of 42... ever here a the band Front 242?
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: blamf!         
Date & Time: 11/12/90 20:22:24
Message Number 10414

Cat's must be related to "Night Crawler" from the X-Men comics. Cats go
"Blamf!" and he went"Bamf!" Wierd.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: transputer     
Date & Time: 11/12/90 20:24:24
Message Number 10415

IBM bought the patent on the transputer. (Really!!!) but Atari still has
manufacturers rights. And supposedly some R&D people from Cray are now 
in the tank with IBM. So maybe.... you never know!
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: static         
Date & Time: 11/12/90 20:28:46
Message Number 10416

"Here fluffy, sit here for a minute...BBZZZZAAAAPPP!!!!!!..sizzle!
MOM!!!!! CALL THE THAI STEAKHOUSE!!! TELL THEM TO COME FOR A PICKUP!!!
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/12/90 21:35:39
Message Number 10429

"Nosedive!" was from Heavy Metal.  The short with the three aliens in 
the giant smiley face space ship.  Really good, film, you should catch
it sometime.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/13/90 00:59:29
Message Number 10431

It came from 'Airplane'...Not a bad movie for an evening of mindless
>entertainment.
 
Not a bad movie?? Airplane was wonderful! "Excuse me, I speak Jive..."
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: Pixel          
Date & Time: 11/13/90 01:00:25
Message Number 10432

>I thought they voompfed not blampfed..
 
Cats blampf. It's a more abrupt form of translocation; voompfing is
nothing more than moving very quickly; blampfing is teleportation.
Other things blampf too...like cars...late at night...don't ask.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/13/90 01:01:56
Message Number 10433

RufusCon II is now officially set for December 8-9, 1990. It will
probably run through most of the weekend (the last one did), so
arriving after work is no problem. Most likely the 'official' starting
time will be around 6 PM. Stay tuned for more details!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/13/90 01:04:19
Message Number 10434

>"Oh shit, there goes the neighborhood."
 
Can't tell you. "DADDY would have gotten us Uzi's!" is from a
staggeringly bad horror flick called "Day of the Comet;" the person
uttering the line was a darling 16-year-old girl complaining because
her big sister just stole a bunch of MAC-10's with which to get the
zombies...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Neuromancer    
Date & Time: 11/13/90 01:06:32
Message Number 10435

James Earl Jones as Wintermute...hmm. I dunno; that /might/ work...
(kind of skeptical look). Rivera and Armitage are still kinda difficult
to cast, too. How 'bout Meryl Streep for Lady 3Jane Marie Tessier-
Ashpool?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: transputer     
Date & Time: 11/13/90 01:12:21
Message Number 10436

>IBM bought the patent on the transputer. (Really!)
 
God, I hope you're wrong.
 
>And supposedly some R&D people from Cray are now in the tank with IBM.
 
Specifically, Stephen Chen, the man who was going to be Seymour Cray's
successor. He and Cray got into it about Chen's design for the Cray III
(Chen wanted to go with a whole bunch of untried technology, like fiber
optic switching circuitry and superconducting Josephson junctions) and
Cray was afraid that putting that much untested technology in one
machine would be asking for grief. Chen now heads up IBM's super-
computer research team.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: System Crash   
Date & Time: 11/13/90 01:29:30
Message Number 10437

...but I bet you all figured that out already, huh? Anyway, the
problem's fixed now...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/13/90 06:58:21
Message Number 10438

> Really good, film, you should catch it sometime.
 
  So, I guess it's a good trade to borrow someone's "Heavy Metal" for my
"Rocky Horror"??
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/13/90 07:00:11
Message Number 10439

> is now officially set for December 8-9, 1990. 
 
  Cool. Now, are you still going to have some sort of Furry Party on 
the weekend of the 17th or 24th (like the rumors suggest)?
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/13/90 07:02:37
Message Number 10440

> staggerinly bad horror flick called "Day of the Comet;"...
 
  Wasn't that "Night of the Comet"?? It sounds similar. Isn't that the
movie where some teenage girls survive a comet and then proceed to raid
the department stores? I can't really remember much else, but I kinda 
liked the film..
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/13/90 07:07:59
Message Number 10441

 The message should have ran:
 
  How 'bout "Say! Do any of you guys know how to Madison?"
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BEATLE              
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/13/90 17:09:51
Message Number 10442

You have "Rocky Horror" on video.  Does this mean we can throw toast
and water and other items around your living room?
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/13/90 18:05:09
Message Number 10443

> You have "Rocky Horror" on video.
 
  Did I say that? Hmmm. I thought I kept it out of the BBS community.
 
> Does this mean we can throw toast and water and other items around 
> your living room?
 
  Uh, well, no, not that I wouldn't want to. It's because A) it would 
make a DAMN BIG mess and B) I didn't let my parents know I have the 
movie on tape.
 
  Of course, this doesn't stop you from gettting the tape and throwing
toast and water around SOMEONE ELSE'S living room. In fact, I /want/ 
someone to at least host a party (or some sort of thing) where we can 
make use of the audience lines (and maybe some other things... say the
things that don't make a mess.)
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/13/90 18:09:18
Message Number 10444

  GGESH, Beatle, you DIsay that....
 
  Oh well, anyone up for "Heavy Metal" this weekend??
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Deutch         
Date & Time: 11/13/90 22:01:00
Message Number 10446

>...thanks for the compliment..I think.
I dont remember what I said, its been a few days since I've been on.  
Anyway, your welcome, I think.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: oh yeah!       
Date & Time: 11/13/90 22:03:06
Message Number 10447

I didnt read the book, but I'll take your word for it.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: MAX                 
Subject: mag's          
Date & Time: 11/13/90 22:06:34
Message Number 10448

>It will also be on sale at any furry party.
Whens the next one...
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: static         
Date & Time: 11/13/90 22:12:01
Message Number 10449

I dont know what it was about your message, but it hit the funny bone.  
I laughed for several minutes after reading it [BBZZZAAAAPPPPPTTT...]
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: cats           
Date & Time: 11/13/90 22:13:49
Message Number 10450

>likes to be dust-busted.  Strange....
I guess....Mine likes to share the pillow with you at night.  Mind you 
if you don't want to she will proceed to push you over irregardless.  If
on the off chance SHE doesn't want the pillow, she'll lay on you no 
matter what position you're in.  I woke up the other morning with her on
my back.  Strange cat....doesnt like milk either...
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: airplane       
Date & Time: 11/13/90 22:19:39
Message Number 10451

P U L E E Z.....Tell me what was so wonderful (jive) about it.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Pixel          
Date & Time: 11/13/90 22:22:02
Message Number 10452

I wonder if Big Brother is catching all this....
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/13/90 22:23:20
Message Number 10453

Whew...I thought I was gonna have to miss it.  Thanks for the info...
===========

From: MAX                 
To: BURNEY              
Subject: mag's          
Date & Time: 11/13/90 23:28:28
Message Number 10455

The next one is, I believe, this weekend... I'm sure Turtle will post
some follow-up information with more specifics as to how to get to his
apartment and other such.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: airplane       
Date & Time: 11/14/90 06:39:31
Message Number 10456

> Tell me what was so wonderful about it.
 
  I thought "Airplane!" was a great movie too. Tell me the name of any
other comedy with that many sucessful jokes. They're few and far between
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: goooooood!     
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:03:42
Message Number 10459

  Uhhhhhh.... 3?  :)
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: scratcing      
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:05:19
Message Number 10460

  I've never gotten pois. ivy. I have, on the other hand, swallowed 
something under the counter (many years ago), and I dring a gallon of 
milk every two days since..... Paranoia.
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Peotry         
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:08:34
Message Number 10461

  Actually, it's 12 cardinals, and a red baseball bat.
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Heinlein       
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:10:27
Message Number 10462

  sounds like that ex X man, Shadowcat?
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: UltraSheep     
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:12:03
Message Number 10463

  I think I could live in Beiruit! Joe Bob Briggs says all they watch 
over there is World Championship Wrestling... WCW/NWA.
 
                       Hahaha
.s
/s
DONE!
Hey!
.Hey!
                       hahahA
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: instinct       
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:15:34
Message Number 10464

  You do understand that 'robbing cars' is stealing stuff inside the car
while stealing cars is actually taking the car.
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: KOOL KAT            
Subject: UltraSheep     
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:20:57
Message Number 10465

  I'd like to congradulate them too, even though I haven't been able
to get a hold of an issue...
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Heinlein       
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:25:32
Message Number 10466

  Awesome Iron Maiden song for that book/movie.... though it was made
afterwards.....  
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Books          
Date & Time: 11/14/90 17:27:17
Message Number 10467

  Deja Q is on ST:TNG.... 
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: jive           
Date & Time: 11/14/90 18:54:44
Message Number 10468

Sup' my nig home boy,
            I be standin' it at dee cono wi' my BK's on ma feet...
...I allways wondered what B.K. stood for. Some people say "British 
Knights" and others say "Black Kid" you tell me?
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: hey!!!         
Date & Time: 11/14/90 18:59:25
Message Number 10469

Explain some thing to me please! I left about Nine posts here on tuesday
but when I reviewed them, only every third was there, and some of the 
stuff from my posts was mixed in with other peoples. what happened?
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: oh.            
Date & Time: 11/14/90 19:01:55
Message Number 10470

Ignore my previous message.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: heavy met'l    
Date & Time: 11/14/90 19:02:56
Message Number 10471

Can I find "Heavy Metal" on video? and Where!!!
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: catfood        
Date & Time: 11/14/90 19:07:15
Message Number 10472

Thai's don't actually eat cats.  Mung's do, but I wasn't sure you would
know what a Mung was. (Mongolian)
 
         O.K. enough of the reply Scheisse. How about just plain odd?
 
     When playing with radio controlled cars, remember to keep the 
alchohol warm.(It doesn't burn as readilly when cold.) and here's a few 
tips that I have found to be helpful when it comes to saftey...
  ...Just about all of this has happened to me at one dumb point or 
another...
         1.Keep the alchohol warm, and the beer cold.(You figure it out)
         2.Keep a fire extinguisher on hand.
         3.keep all cats in a locked room if they are under 15 lb.
         4.remove all shag carpeting.
         5.Use a condo...no thats not right.
         6.Don't eat J-ello naked.(What movie is that from.)
         7.Cats go sssssssssSSSSSSSSSSCCHWWAAACK!!! when teleporting
         8.If you close the refridgerator door fast enough the cat goes,
 
        ...ssssssssssSSSSSSSSSCCCCCRRRRRREEEEEEAAAA THUD!!!!
         9.don't bring a running engine near your pubic hair.........
.......rrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRENCH(tangle tangle) YYYYYYEEEEAAAAAARRRRGG
        10.Don't let a 15 lb. cat ride a R/C car......
......"Here Spike, sit on this...rrrrrRRENCH!(Tangle tangle) MMRRREEOOW!
a bald cat is not a pretty sight.
   
    Thats it. hoped you enjoyed my sick delusions about warm-nude-jello-
indoor-R/C car racing! Later!
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: catz           
Date & Time: 11/14/90 19:23:41
Message Number 10473

One of our kittens likes tobacco...
   ...he eats the butts out of the ashtray.(YUCK!)
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: SPELLWIND           
Subject: phi            
Date & Time: 11/14/90 19:27:27
Message Number 10474

Absolutly correct!!!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/14/90 19:53:58
Message Number 10477

There will be a semi-informal spontaneous almost-furry-party the weekend
of the 17th, probably starting somewhere around 5 or 6ish. I don't know
how many people will show up, how long it will last, or any other
silly details, since this particular furry party is kind of one of
those things that happens whenever Ken Sable tries to get involved in
planning anything.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/14/90 19:56:42
Message Number 10478

Yes, it was in fact "Night of the Comet," I believe. The main characters
are two teenage girls who survive the effects of a comet that turns
almost everyone else into zombies; they steal some MAC-10's (which
throughout the rest of the show keep jamming, hence "DADDY would have
gotten us Uzi's!"), and wreak mayhem on the nasty ikky zombies. It's
a good movie.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: airplane       
Date & Time: 11/14/90 19:59:08
Message Number 10479

>Tell me what was so wonderful (jive) about it.
 
Well, it was a good parody of the endless series of Airport dreck we
were dribbled with for a few years; it was funny, in its own brainless
way; and some of the lines are classic.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/14/90 20:00:16
Message Number 10480

No problem. RufusCon '90 (or RufusCon II depending on who you
ask) may even have its own genuine RufusCon T-shirts available...
lots of fun to wear to other conventions to confuse the nice people.
 
Hey, I wonder if we can get some of the guys tapping my phone to show
up! That'd be great!! (That's an open invitation, guys; I'm sure you
know where I live. You'll have a good time, I guarantee it!)
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SPELLWIND           
Subject: instinct       
Date & Time: 11/14/90 20:03:34
Message Number 10481

>You do understand that 'robbing cars' is stealing stuff inside the
>car while stealing cars is actually taking the car.
 
Yes. Robbing cars occurs far more often than stealing cars, and is one
of the most common forms of crime. According to a police officer I knew
in Ft. Myers, they would get about five reports a day of robbed cars
JUST FROM ONE SHOPPING MALL ALONE, while they usually didn't get five
stolen car reports a week.
 
...sort of makes you a little more cautious, hmm? Leave your car
unlocked and unattended at a mall and the odds of your being robbed are
MUCH higher than most people think.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SPELLWIND           
Subject: UltraSheep     
Date & Time: 11/14/90 20:06:06
Message Number 10482

>I'd like to congradulate them too, even though I haven't been able to
>get a hold of an issue...
 
You should be able to find them at the Time Machine. Max and Ken Sable
also both have copies for sale (I'm temporarily outr, although I'll be
getting some more by week's end...are you listening, Max??)
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: jive           
Date & Time: 11/14/90 20:07:53
Message Number 10483

Hehehe...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: hey!!!         
Date & Time: 11/14/90 20:08:09
Message Number 10484

Well, we had a situation here on A/R called Message Base Crash Due RTo
Sysop Carelessness. The message base filled up and clogged, and some
of the messages (or rather, a LOT of the messages from two days ago)
got garbled or lost completely. The problem has been almost completely
fixed now, except for one kink in the message file that's still a little
screwy (although it won't hurt anything you post now).
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: catfood        
Date & Time: 11/14/90 20:11:10
Message Number 10485

>Don't eat J-ello naked.
 
Too late.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Work???        
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:12:00
Message Number 10487

What's this McD's stuff????? I thought you had some gig at a local
theatre? What kind of work you lookin' for? I've got some "connections"
around and maybe I could put out some feelers for you. Well, if all
else fails....just go win the lottery or something, but DON'T invest
in Unisys....hehe
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: cats           
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:15:30
Message Number 10488

Don't mean to pry in here, but I had this big cat up in NC that
absolutely REFUSED to go outside....EVER!!! The one time I tried to get
her out for a little sun, she whipped around, latched on to my bare
chest with all ten front claws and hung there...scared to death. Last
time I ever tried to make any animal do what it didn't want to.
What do you think would make a cat be such a home-body? hmmmmm....
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:20:05
Message Number 10489

  "The departure of the Wise Men from the East seems to have been
on a more extensive scale than is generally supposed, for no one of
that description seems to have been left behind."  Sydney Smith
   
   one of my favorites...especially with the Iran/Iraq bull...<grin>
...sssssSNAKEBYTE .  .      BTW.....hi again.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:22:37
Message Number 10490

  Did Heavy Metal ever make it out on video? Can't say as I ever saw
it around. The rag was the basis of the movie and being a looong time
reader, I was a little let down by the flick (hoping too much for 
Mobius stuff everywhere). Just came across about a four foot high
stack of back issues in the attic. Ended up sitting up there reading for
a few hours....family couldn't find me....oh well!
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:25:00
Message Number 10491

"Airplane".....AHA!!! A classic. Should be a Leslie Nelson award
for that one "Picked a bad day to quit sniffin' glue"....and the
sceen with the lady being slapped around on the plane with the line of 
people down the aisle with wrenches, guns...etc....hahaha...a riot.
Right up there with The Holy Grail.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:29:07
Message Number 10492

Ever catch a flick called Elephant Parts? A good skit in there called
Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority or something like that with Mike
Nesmeth(sp) from the Monkees nuking his neighbors for bothering his
bar-b-que.....good flick...good songs...(ie Lucy & Ramona & Sunset Sam).
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:33:05
Message Number 10493

>>>"Heavy Metal" for "Rocky Horror"....
  
If you watch Heavy Metal...be sure to have a good stereo hooked up
to your VCR....it'll help the effects of the movie. But then again,
why would you have Rocky Horror without one......huh? Is Rocky Horror
CopyGuarded to shit???? (look for a slight distortion across the top
of the picture)...let me know...pleeeeeze?
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:36:10
Message Number 10494

>>>>Night of the Comet....
  
Yeah, with some zombied out victims running around killing everyone?
I remember that one. They get trapped in a radio station or something?
People falling apart (loosing limbs...etc). Kind of a cheap take-off
on the Omega Man if you ask me. But it was entertaining....
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Rocky I        
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:38:39
Message Number 10495

>>>>Beatle's Rocky Horror....
  
I think we should be able to throw toast around Beatle's house, but 
we'd have to dress wild and bring our own toast... unless we raided
Beatle's kitchen before the show.....
  
I wonder if he has one of those four-slice toasters...it'd save time...
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: airplane       
Date & Time: 11/14/90 22:43:51
Message Number 10496

>>>>>that many sucessful jokes....
  
Monty Python's Holy Grail, Life of Brian, And Now for Something 
Completely Different, If You Dont Stop It You'll Go Blind, Can I Do It
'Til I Need Glasses, Groove Tube, Flesh Gordon, BC Rock, Bill & Ted's
Excellent Adventure, Spaceballs (well, maybe Young Frankinstein instead)
, The Man With Two Brains, The Naked Gun, Vacation, European Vacation,
(not Christmas Vacation), Animal House, History Of White People in
America, Dragnet, Summer Rental.....whew!!! And I'm sure some that'll
come to me later.....
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/15/90 17:54:08
Message Number 10497

With all those damned pocket reminder/city finder/video game player
things from Casio, Sharp, etc. etc., you think they'd make one to 
plan your schedule.  You people could really use one.  Just punch in
what you have to do, if any must be down at a certain time (like work),
how long it will take, and by what percent you underestimate how long it
will take.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/15/90 17:59:23
Message Number 10498

Umm, I think HM came out on video, but Columbia bought the rights back.
I have this really extensive HM discussion on my board, explaining all
the details.  Uncle Bob's, 371-3498, 3/12/24, hit return a few times,
shameless plug.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: Rocky I        
Date & Time: 11/15/90 18:01:40
Message Number 10499

>I wonder if he has one of those four-slice toasters...
 
Wait, they make things to toast bread!?  And all these years I've
been using a blow torch.  Sheesh....
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: airplane       
Date & Time: 11/15/90 20:49:05
Message Number 10500

I didn't say it wasn't entertaining.  I said it wasn't a good movie.  It
was a ridiculous plot, it did havea good cast though.  It severely 
lacked originality but that was   the idea.  Also the play on words was 
taken, in my opinion, to the extreme.  I will say it had its good points
but mostly bad.  For that reason I haven't seen 'The Naked Gun' with
L. Nielson.  I've heard it is similar.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: catfood        
Date & Time: 11/15/90 21:02:14
Message Number 10501

To reply to your statements:
                                       No I didn't know what 'Mung's' 
were.
Why should I keep all cats under 15#'s in a locked room?
No I don't know what movie 'Jello-Naked...'came from.
Cats riding RC cArs (indoors) sounds like fun...
sssssssSSSSSSSSSCCRREEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHH vroom...vroom...OH NOOOO......
..C/r/A/S/h
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: catz           
Date & Time: 11/15/90 21:07:42
Message Number 10502

Geee you could name it /catbut/...er.....thats cat-NIP isn't it?  Oh 
well I'm tired.  Thats my only excuse...
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/15/90 21:10:59
Message Number 10503

Who knows, maybe I'll be able to 
get away.  How do I get there?
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/15/90 21:13:31
Message Number 10504

I just signed on as a user during the last of the phone tap messages.
What makes you think you were being tapped?  How'd ya find out?
What for? (you a communist or something?)
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/15/90 21:20:47
Message Number 10505

The distortion you see,I believe is the result of a bad copy.  If redone
it should go bye bye..
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: catfood        
Date & Time: 11/15/90 21:29:47
Message Number 10506

OOOOps hit the wrong button.     
This is not a message.  It will not disappear, you cannot delete it and 
it will not self destruct in 30 
seconds.  If this had been a real message, you would have heard the cAt 
screem and been notified where to tune in you area for more news and    
messages.  Again this is not a message. Have a nice day...
This non-message was posted with  involuntary cooperation of the Sysop 
of this system
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: heavy met'l    
Date & Time: 11/15/90 21:41:08
Message Number 10507

> Can I find "Heavy Metal" on video?
 
  Uh, yes and no.
 
> and Where!!!
 
  I'm borrowing a mediocre copy from a friend. It's the first time I've 
seen the film. You're likely to find some people in these BBS circles 
with better copies. You can also watch the schedules for a Cinemax show.
From what I've been told, it WAS on video for a while, but it was dis-
continued.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Garble         
Date & Time: 11/15/90 22:05:40
Message Number 10508

Thanks for the explanation. But Still some of my best poetic work has 
been forever lost!(Sigh!..sniffle...)
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: movies         
Date & Time: 11/15/90 22:07:31
Message Number 10509

In case you hadn't guessed the "J-ello" bit was from "Real Genius".
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: Outside        
Date & Time: 11/15/90 22:09:28
Message Number 10510

>...ten front claws and hung there...
  How long till you healed? You can always tell a kitten owner by the 
scratches on the hands.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: 15 lb'ers      
Date & Time: 11/15/90 22:16:31
Message Number 10511

Small cats are nimble enough to race around the room after cars, but if
you let the big, heavy one run around that fast...well lets just say...
you ever here of inertia? We have glass table tops. And Breakables...
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: catdrugs       
Date & Time: 11/15/90 22:19:03
Message Number 10512

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... actually it's Cat-Nep, not Cat-Nip. and if you 
want to get REALLY picky is's Cat-Mint. And then there's the ever so
humongously picky (nepeta cataria). Had enough?
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: Mission Imp.   
Date & Time: 11/15/90 22:23:17
Message Number 10513

I'm glad I didn't read that (non)message.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Herbs and such 
Date & Time: 11/15/90 22:26:02
Message Number 10514

Herb growing and incense are some of my many vices. Need a love potion?
Poison? Anti-Diarhetic? Heart tonic? just let me know.
          
     It was brought to my attention that my handle is a bit silly.
Let me clarify. I have never seen "Bambi".(really!)
I am a bass player.
One of the techniques used in bas playing is a "slapping" or "thumping"
hand motion,("Hand motion"---Don't get any sick ideas about bass players
ok?)
Anyway, "Thumping" hence the name "Thumper One" Kay?
                 Bye Now (thump thump)
                       Thumper One (The bassist, not the Bunny)
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/16/90 19:44:04
Message Number 10515

> Elephant Parts...
 
  (Yep, it's Mr. Don't-Spell-Names-Of-Famous-People-I-Like here... hehe)
  Just so you know, it's Nesmith.  Also, I remember you telling me that
Blockbuster Video had The Complat Al and Elephant Parts. When I was 
there, I didn't see the Al video. But, Rufus says a new video store near
him has it.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 11/16/90 19:47:01
Message Number 10516

> Is Rocky Horror CopyGuarded to shit????
 
  As a matter of fact NO, it isn't. The tape came out GREAT. It will be 
at the Furry Party too, if anyone feels a strange impulse to watch it 
(Rufus suggested that I bring it, too.) Also, you mentioned stereo. Well
the copy of Heavy Metal had SOUND that was shot to shit. It was SLP 
third generation. The movie was good though. On Rocky Horror, a FULL 
sound remix was done. From the original mag (magnetic audio) track and 
the studio music masters, a full Chace Surround product was created. 
This is nothing short of a great achievement, considering the original 
film was mono. Unfortunately, my copy is mono. But, since the film was 
that way in the first place, ya won't miss anything!
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: airplane       
Date & Time: 11/16/90 19:52:49
Message Number 10517

  Having seen almost all those films (didn't see any of the Monty Python
films or the couple followin those)... I must disagree. Especially from 
what I saw of "Summer Rental". "European Vaction" was pretty mediocre, 
but the original was funny. "The Naked Gun" is CERTAINLY up there with 
"Airplane!" though. And while I liked "Dragnet", there is /no/ way its 
in the same class.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/16/90 19:55:20
Message Number 10518

> you think they'd make one to plan yourschedule.
 
  Uh, I think they /do/ have one of those.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: Work???        
Date & Time: 11/17/90 15:34:40
Message Number 10520

Yep, I'm still at McD's. I'm also working (part-time) at a local
theatre; it's shit work right now, but if I'm patient I might end up
as a projectionist; I do have my projectionists' license already,
which helps. If you can come up with anything better, though, believe
me, I'm all ears...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/17/90 15:37:14
Message Number 10521

>Right up there with The Holy Grail.
 
"WHAT is the airspeed velocity of a common swallow?"
"African or European?"
"I-I don't know...AAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"
 
That movie is truly a classic...although I liked "Life of Brian" some-
what better. Life of Brian is one of the single funniest things I have
ever seen.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/17/90 15:39:13
Message Number 10522

Can't say I've ever seen, or even heard of, "Elephant Parts." Oh well...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: airplane       
Date & Time: 11/17/90 15:41:34
Message Number 10523

>I said it wasn't a good movie. It was a ridiculous plot...
 
YES!!!! (Ding ding ding ding!) The movie was a parody of "Airport,"
and it had EXACTLY THE SAME PLOT! It was SUPPOSED to be a ridiculous
plot; that was the whole point of the movie! Aaargh!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/17/90 15:43:19
Message Number 10524

My apartment is staggeringly easy to find. All you need to do is get
on US 301 and head toward the airport. If you're coming north, you
will pass a SuperAmerica (on the left) just before you get near the
airport. Right past the SA is a traffic light; turn into Shadowood
Apartments at the light. Follow the circle around until you find a
weird-looking grey Baja Bug. Building 12, unit 1895. If you're going
south, go past DeSoto (that's the airport access road) and keep going
(about a quarter-mile) until you find the traffic light I just mentioned
in front of Shadowood. Nothing to it!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/17/90 15:45:54
Message Number 10525

>What makes you think you were being tapped?
 
Well, some of my users started having a rash of muting failures when
they called (if you've never seen one of these, they're kind of unmis-
takable, and a dead give-away. Every now and then the modem that's
being used to montior the phone, which is a complex beast because it
needs to be able to sync with a dynamic carrier (1200 baud & up) with-
out sending out its own clock pulses, will screw up and cut into the
line. When that happens, the person who's logged on will get a string
of uppercase U's (like UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, sometimes several lines of
them) and suddenly everything that user types just gets echoed back
without DOING anything. The user is connected to the tapping modem, not
the BBS.). Also, there's a weird hum on my line indicating a ground
fault (meaning whoever tapped it didn't really pay attention to what
he was doing), and if I dial a phone sweep I get a steady sound.
 
Can't really say why I'm still being monitored. It is GTE's policy to
tap any line that they believe has a BBS running on it for a few
weeks in order to find out if the sysop is profiting from it (charging
for access, running an online store, whatever); if he IS, GTE can nail
him for a business-rate line ($35 a month more than a residential line).
I've been tapped continuously for almost a year now; possibly they
think I'm subversive?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: movies         
Date & Time: 11/17/90 15:51:52
Message Number 10526

Real Genius. I remember that movie. That one is one of my two or
three all-time favorite movies, possibly because I know people who
remind me a whole lot of several of the major characters. Loved it!
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Work???        
Date & Time: 11/17/90 17:43:26
Message Number 10527

> I'm also working (part-time) at a local theatre...
 
  I would like to work at a movie theatre. I'm not even sure I'd mind 
cleaning up after the movies. I'd really like to be an usher, tho. I 
could see a lot of movies (theoretcially)
===========

From: MAX                 
To: BEATLE              
Subject: heavy met'l    
Date & Time: 11/17/90 17:58:44
Message Number 10528

You can also find copies of the movie at some SF conventions.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: catdrugs       
Date & Time: 11/17/90 18:03:07
Message Number 10529

I /like/ cat-mint tea.
===========

From: MAX                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Herbs and such 
Date & Time: 11/17/90 18:03:50
Message Number 10530

> I have never seen "Bambi".
 
Well, we'll have to fix that sometime, won't we?....
===========

From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Inert Cats     
Date & Time: 11/17/90 19:20:06
Message Number 10531

I had a cat that spent its time sliding from one end of the table
off the other end.  Thought it was fun or something (!!?)  Have a dog
like that now, his inertia carried him right into a wall... had a bump
on his head the size of a tomato for about a month.
...
He's not the smartest animal we've ever had... wonder if that had any-
thing to do with it.....
                 				DW
===========

From: PABLO               
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: job            
Date & Time: 11/17/90 20:30:29
Message Number 10532

when are we going to start up our doubt business where we doubt other
people's teachers out of existence?
===========

From: AL REINHART         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Location       
Date & Time: 11/18/90 08:36:41
Message Number 10536

Hey Dude, I live right across the traffic light from you ... behing the
Budwiser plant.
 
  - Bones -
===========

From: THRUD               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: taptaptap      
Date & Time: 11/18/90 10:26:54
Message Number 10537

Jeez, you must have a much more interesting life than I. Here you're
accused of being a commie and/or subversive, while I get saddled with
boring labels like conservative and taxpayer. Durn little romance in
my lifestyle. Beware the Ides of RufusCon! You never know what kind
of Nordic/Italians might turn up unexpectedly!
                                THRUD
===========

From: THRUD               
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/18/90 10:34:25
Message Number 10538

Many moons back, I nearly broke up with my wife-to-be when she asked
me to explain a Leslie Nielson joke to her. When I told her that humor
like that must be caught on the fly, and is ruined if analysed (uh), she
miraculously 'got it', and now laughs when I do, whether she gets it
or not.                     THRUD
===========

From: THRUD               
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 11/18/90 10:39:40
Message Number 10539

I once had a tape of Night of the Comet, but I wore it out winding
and rewinding over the part where whats 'er name is in the dressing
room in bra and panties.....no matter how many times I watched it, the
camera always turned away at just the wrong moment.....
                                    THRUD
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Genius         
Date & Time: 11/18/90 20:54:55
Message Number 10540

"Degerate eh? What about that time I found you naked with a bowl of 
Jello?"
"That's not true!!!"
"This is true."
"I was hungry and hot! OK?!?"
      I love that movie...
 come on guys, let's TAN!
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: MAX                 
Subject: Catmint        
Date & Time: 11/18/90 20:58:51
Message Number 10541

Cat mint tea is used in fevers to promotes sweating, in order to lower
your temperature. The tea can also be injected into the bowels torelieve
colic. And my cats love it.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: MAX                 
Subject: Bambi          
Date & Time: 11/18/90 21:01:31
Message Number 10542

If it's sad, I don't want to see it. I wouldn't want you guys to see
me crying. I try to show only my Macho side.(grunt, belch).
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: Dumb mutts     
Date & Time: 11/18/90 21:03:51
Message Number 10543

My parents have a black lab named "Buck". Nicest dog you'll ever see,
but he tends to flay you with his tail when he's happy.
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: THRUD               
Subject: creeds         
Date & Time: 11/18/90 21:06:24
Message Number 10544

Nordic/Eyetalions? you meen people like Bjorn Giovanni?
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: THRUD               
Subject: Dressing       
Date & Time: 11/18/90 21:08:28
Message Number 10545

What kind of dressing room was it? I go for Bleu Cheese myself.
The camera didn't turn away, the camera man himself lept off it and went
after the girl. You saw him right? Kinda dusty, skin falling off him...
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From: MMA                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Dumb mutts     
Date & Time: 11/19/90 01:46:37
Message Number 10546

My mother has a Boston Bull terrier. Now this si a strange dog...
Robbie doesn't bark at you until you go to leave. She's scared of the 
wind (the noise) when she's inside.
In her attempts to escape the noise,she's gone through several vinyl 
windows in the lanai.
 
I wish that I had a Great Dan They're neat dogs!
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From: BURNEY              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: catdrugs       
Date & Time: 11/19/90 17:32:32
Message Number 10547

Uncle...I give...Had enuf..
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From: BURNEY              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: remix          
Date & Time: 11/19/90 17:35:57
Message Number 10548

Why bother to go through all that trouble of a remix.  Just run down to 
your local Radio Shack and pick up a stereo simulator.  I've got one and
it sounds fine.  Especially if you have it hooked up to a stereo unit an
d not just the vcr.
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From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: bad tap job    
Date & Time: 11/19/90 17:43:34
Message Number 10549

Well I guess I've been lucky. That's never happened to me.  Only an 
occasional crash.  Though I think that was caused by a brain malfunction
on this end.
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From: THRUD               
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: creeds         
Date & Time: 11/20/90 17:23:43
Message Number 10554

Nordic/Italians - like Vafthrudner, Frost Giant of Napoli, reknowned
for stomping on little thumpers.
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From: TURTLE              
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: Inert Cats     
Date & Time: 11/20/90 17:55:19
Message Number 10557

>He's not the smartest animal we've ever had...
 
Are we talking about Stormy, by any chance?
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From: TURTLE              
To: THRUD               
Subject: taptaptap      
Date & Time: 11/20/90 17:56:10
Message Number 10558

>Jeez, you must have a much more interesting life than I.
 
If my life were any more "interesting" I'd be dead. If I ever publish
my autobiography I'll have to do it as fiction...I swear nobody
would believe it. Oh well...
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From: BEATLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: remix          
Date & Time: 11/20/90 20:17:50
Message Number 10559

> Why bother to go through all that trouble of a remix.  Just run down 
> to your local Radio Shack and pick up a stereo simulator.
 
  I have /never/ liked those. We had one back about five years ago. If 
you're a fan of real stereo, those Radio Shack do-dads aren't very 
satisfactory. You aren't going to get real channel separation, just a 
synthetic echoed sound.
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From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: taptaptap      
Date & Time: 11/20/90 20:21:14
Message Number 10560

> I swear nobody would believe it.
 
  Well, I think those of us who know you would believe it! If not, you 
can have a fun time and make money going on talk shows trying to prove 
the reality of it all.
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: MMA                 
Subject: Danes          
Date & Time: 11/20/90 22:08:35
Message Number 10561

Great Danes are cool dogs, but sadly, due to their size and breeding, 
they usually don't live as long as other  dogs and are prone to many 
problems when they near the ninth and tenth years of their lives.(like
hip displasure, which can cripple the dog. and It is a rather sickly dog
my parents have had two. But don't let that keep you from getting one.
They are very nice animals. I just like mine to be around longer,(no 
joke intended) thats why I have cats.
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: 'nuf           
Date & Time: 11/20/90 22:13:37
Message Number 10562

nuf' eh? you can't holler 'nuf till I lets ya'!
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: THRUD               
Subject: jeez!          
Date & Time: 11/20/90 22:15:39
Message Number 10563

Jeeeeezz! Just a joke dude! Don't pass any bovines through your anal 
sphincter!  And don't go Bunnie Stomping here, vote on it at B/C.
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: ALL                 
Subject: Everything     
Date & Time: 11/20/90 22:21:08
Message Number 10564

In my attempts to out manuever BBS "Board"em I have posted some rather
odd things, and now in that spirit,  I have come upon a new topic of 
discussion: Women.
  Not in the physical sence, but the mental.  Why the hell are they so 
confusing?  In an attempt to understand them better, I'd like every one 
to post something that they find odd, interesting, or unusual about some
female that they know.(MOM is not included!)
  
      I work retail, selling piano's and organs. Why is it that women 
will enter the store.  Ask about a piano, have you demonstrate every one
in the store, make requests,(I don't know any Barry Manilow lady!) ask 
for the price, take out her checkbook, (YEAH!!!!!) then notice some girl
walk by in a sweater and say. "I wish I could wear that color..." then 
get up to ask where she found her (The girls) shoes then disappear for
ever! WHY WHY WHY WHY! WHY! WHY! WHY! AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUURRRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!
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From: MMA                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Danes          
Date & Time: 11/21/90 01:27:40
Message Number 10566

I know about the shorter lifespans of larger breeds, but I wasn't aware 
of the health problems later in life. My sister just had her rotwieller 
put to sleep. Sam had umor in her hip. She was 9 years old and a great
watchd. Robin just  a puppy rotwieller, her name is cash (expensive
dog).
My other choices for a dog would be a Golden retriever or a doberman 
pinscer among others that I like.
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From: MMA                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Everything     
Date & Time: 11/21/90 01:38:00
Message Number 10567

Why is it that women have a fancy name for their bad moods (PMS) and 
we men are just plain PO'd?
 
to answer the ? about the sweater...
The sweater's cheaper than the piano... naah,that's not it. I dunno why 
they do that kinda thing.
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From: BEATLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: odd stuff      
Date & Time: 11/21/90 18:09:36
Message Number 10570

  I just came across an intersting book in (of all places) my school 
library. It's "The Dictionary of Euphimisms and other Doubletalk".
 
  I was going to discuss this book, but I just discovered that I sorta
left it in school somewhere... shit, I don't want ~}_t
 
  er, I don't want to loose a large hardcover library book!
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From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: taptaptap      
Date & Time: 11/22/90 00:32:35
Message Number 10572

>If not, you could have a fun time and make money going on talk shows
>trying to prove the reality of it all.
 
I'm generally too busy /doing/ it to talk about it (although not as
much lately; my life has gotten very, very quiet and boring since I
moved to Sarasota). Besides, I thought you didn't get paid much (if at
all) for going on talk shows.
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From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Everything     
Date & Time: 11/22/90 00:35:11
Message Number 10573

>I'd like every one to post something they find odd, interesting, or
>unusual about some woman...
 
Hmm. Well, lessee. Carey used to strip race a '63 Challenger in Maine,
can get into a car with a slim jim in under a second, and can strip a
Volkswagen Bug in about fifteen minutes (I know, we used to do it
together). Does that qualify?
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: MMA                 
Subject: Dogs           
Date & Time: 11/22/90 01:11:54
Message Number 10574

They (the puppies) all sound cute. I hope your happy with your choice 
and I wish them good luck!
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: MMA                 
Subject: Women          
Date & Time: 11/22/90 01:13:21
Message Number 10575

My ex used to say that PMS meant Putting up with Mens Shit.
The Sweater thing must be hormonal, I dunno'...
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Books          
Date & Time: 11/22/90 01:15:08
Message Number 10576

I used to forget my books at school too, (usually on purpose.)
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Carey          
Date & Time: 11/22/90 01:16:57
Message Number 10577

Every thing she does qualifies except the volkswagon bug work. Any one
can do it if they have a kitchen table and a butter knife.
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From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: taptaptap      
Date & Time: 11/22/90 23:29:20
Message Number 10578

> I thought you didn't get paid much (if at all) for going on talk shows
 
  Uh, well, I dunno. But, if they want you bad enough, they'll pay.
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From: MMA                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Dogs           
Date & Time: 11/23/90 03:24:32
Message Number 10580

The puppies are only 1, and it's my sister's dog up in PA. I wish that I
had a dog.
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From: MMA                 
To: BEATLE              
Subject: odd stuff      
Date & Time: 11/23/90 03:27:11
Message Number 10581

Lemme know if you find it. If you can't, I'll see if the library has it.
If they do, you can get it at selby library.
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From: BEATLE              
To: MMA                 
Subject: odd stuff      
Date & Time: 11/23/90 23:13:18
Message Number 10582

 
> if they do, you can get it at selby library.
 
  Uh, that won't help replace the book from my school library if I lost 
it. But, thanks for informing me.
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From: BEATLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Grrr!          
Date & Time: 11/23/90 23:14:29
Message Number 10583

 Messages! Messages! We want messages!!
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: MMA                 
Subject: mutts          
Date & Time: 11/24/90 01:15:26
Message Number 10584

To bad, why don't you go down to the humain society and get one?
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: messages       
Date & Time: 11/24/90 01:17:09
Message Number 10585

Ok Beatle, heres a message...
                 2400 baud!!!!!!!! finally!!!!1 YEAH!!!!
    Ok?
***********************************************************************
 
Here's something to talk about:
  Should the AK-47 be baned as a hunting weapon?
 
  Some facts:
1. The AK-47 is not a machine gun (aka no 2000 rounds per min. etc.)
2. It is SEMI-AUTOMATIC, which means it will shoot as fast as you can 
pull the trigger.
3. Almost all hunting rifles are SEMI-AUTOMATIC, but their clips do not
extend out the bottom of the gun.
4. Does that mean that all rifles should be banned? Or just the semi's?
5. Should SEMI-AUTO pistols be banned?
       Here's the topic, how bout some posting?
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: catdrugs       
Date & Time: 11/24/90 15:05:21
Message Number 10587

>Actually it's Cat-Nap, not Cat-Nip... Had enough?
     
   Actually, no. Never tried the stuff.
            /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Herbs and such 
Date & Time: 11/24/90 15:06:58
Message Number 10588

Herb growinbg and incense? Purr! Do you know of any other things to
put into a "relaxing" potion other than chamomile and maybe cloves?
    
   Damn! Another musician on board! Do you have an acoustic bass as
well as an electric one?
              /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RufusConII     
Date & Time: 11/24/90 15:13:22
Message Number 10589

>Possibl they think I'm subversive?
     
   But you ARE a subversive agent of the... uh, the Communists aren't
our enemies any longer, are they? And you don't LOOK Iraqi. Hmmm...
Aha! You're an agent of the International Anarchist Conspiracy,
dedicated to the overthrow of everything sane! Your aim is to 
replace the President of the United States with a furry, and post
strange messages on so-called "bulletin board systems" around the 
country to spread your propaganda! Hmph!
             /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Everything     
Date & Time: 11/24/90 15:24:45
Message Number 10590

>Why is it that women will enter the store, ask about a piano,...
>take out her checkbook then notice some girl walk by in a sweater...
>then disappear for ever!
    
   Simple. They don't really want to buy an organ. They just want to
waste some time listening to Barry Manilow.
     
   Something unusual that's happened with women? I really can't give
anything unusual about women as a whole -- just individual incidents
with some women I've known.
   <Hell, most of the 'incidents' I'm thinking of happen to the girl-
friend of one of the occasional users of this system -- one that many
members of the system know about. I doubt they were typical. And I
don't want to embarrass that user.>
   
   Why does my girlfriend always try to get me to play guessing games?
Her voice occasionally gives off a sound of "something's wrong between
us" -- and until I mention this, she'll say nothing? And then, when I
ask, "Is anything wrong?" she says, "Not really..." And then I have to
continue pushing to find out what really WAS wrong... (Occasionally,
it WAS important enough for it to have been worth it. But not always.)
               /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Everything     
Date & Time: 11/24/90 15:34:45
Message Number 10591

Excuse my ignorance. What's the difference between strip racing and
drag racing?
            /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: taptaptap      
Date & Time: 11/24/90 15:36:10
Message Number 10592

T>I thought you didn't get paid much (if at all) for going on talk
T>shows
     
B>Uh, well, I dunno. But, if they want you bad enough, they'll pay.
     
    If they do, it's rare. I once replaced Henry Kissinger on a talk
show, and they payed me nothing.
            /Dragonfly/
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From: MAX                 
To: TURTLE              
Subject: taptaptap      
Date & Time: 11/24/90 20:46:14
Message Number 10593

> my life has gotten very, very quite and boring since I moved to
> Sarasota...
 
*snort*
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From: MAX                 
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: messages       
Date & Time: 11/24/90 20:47:54
Message Number 10594

Hunting should be banned, regardless of whether or not you're using an
AK-47.  Killing other creatures, even if they are not sapient to the
degree humans are, for "fun" has always struck me as being very close to
the same ethical/moral level of a torturer who enjoys his work.  If it's
the thrill of the chase a hunter's after, he can damn well use a camera,
and I won't care whether his Nikon is automatic or not.
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From: MAX                 
To: TURTLE              
Subject: stuff          
Date & Time: 11/24/90 20:58:41
Message Number 10595

I'm using ZCOMM again mostly for the humor value.  It prints the row and
column of the cursor on the status line, for reasons I still can't
fathom, and prints a constantly-changing number which appears to be a
buffer count for no reason at all.  A few days ago I got a blotzed
sector in a YMODEM transfer.  Does ZCOMM print a normal error message?
Noooo, it printed:
  Sector 112 Retry 0 : Noise Burst Detected
  Sector 112 Retry 0 : Got 23 for sector ACK
  Sector 112 Retry 0 : NAK on Sector
  Output Flow Control Restraint RELEASED
 
...your guess is as good (probably better) than mine.
 
At any rate, I just uploaded an archive which contains the newest
version of DELZH4, along with LZHUF4, which actually creates LZH files.
It's written with the same C compiler that ARC4 was, but it's 16K
instead of 30K (50K w/overlays) and only requires 64K... no idea how it
does in terms of speed, but it can't be worse than ARC4's crunching
algorithm (can it??).
 
I may be by later tonight, as I plan to spend this evening out of the
house to avoid a general atmosphere of bitchiness floating about
currently.  As Chris Grant says, "more later as it develops."
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Holidays       
Date & Time: 11/25/90 02:08:42
Message Number 10596

Did Every one stop posting for the holidays?
I called here several times and nothing was new!
                 AAAAAAAUUUURRGGHHGH!!
What? Were you all so full of turkey that you couldn't reach the modem?
          ...I was...(urp)
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Herbs and music
Date & Time: 11/25/90 02:10:37
Message Number 10597

I do play the string (acoustic) bass (I think I said I was classically
trained, didn't I?) but I no longer Own one, (Florida humidity does bad
things to acoustic instruments. It got VERY expensive to maintain)
  
>things to put into a relaxing potion other than chamomile and cloves?
     Sure! Here's a few:
 
Catmint
Cowslip
Hops
Melilot
Mint (pepper)
Poppy (wild) (this is not the type used for heroin, that's the White
Primrose
Valerian
Woodruffle (sweet)
                 Any of those will work well when made into a tea.
Be very careful with cloves, they smell nice, but they are toxic.
Prolonged use of cloves will make you very ill. 
                    Any one else want a herbal cure for something?
                                       Peace
                                 Thumper One
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Subversive     
Date & Time: 11/25/90 02:21:47
Message Number 10598

No actually we're all subversive in one way or another.  I'd like to 
have my own board. That could be taken with a subver. slant on it.
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: What's wrong   
Date & Time: 11/25/90 02:24:05
Message Number 10599

That post sounded funny Dragonfly...
                               ...what's wrong?
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From: THUMPER 1           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: racing         
Date & Time: 11/25/90 02:24:55
Message Number 10600

Strip racing is racing stripped.
Drag racing is racing in womens clothes.
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