
85304 29-JAN 18:39 General Information
     cabrales
     From: TONYREED     To: ALL


Is it just me and my software or has anyone else had trouble
doing ftp from cabrales (or any other site, ftm) when the file
you're trying to "get" or the directory you're trying
to cd to is upper-case?  I have a feeling that Delphi converts
everything to lower-case, which ain't appreciated in the rarified
Unix world of the Internet

See ya,
Tony

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85305 29-JAN 20:46 General Information
     RE: cabrales (Re: Msg 85304)
     From: RICKMAC      To: TONYREED

The Internet FTP is case-sensitive, meaning if it is in UPPERCASE you must
type it in uppercase :-). also try enclosing the path in quotes.
 i.e. "DIR/dir/filename". OK? Had to figure that one out when FTP didn't
 "get" a few files for me.

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85310 30-JAN 11:43 General Information
     RE: cabrales (Re: Msg 85305)
     From: TONYREED     To: RICKMAC (NR)

Aha -- quotes!
I _was_ using the case of the target file; I kept getting a
"no such file or directory" response, always lower-case.
I'll try putting quotes around the file-path.

Thanks for the reply,
Tony.

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End of Thread.

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85306 30-JAN 02:27 General Information
     RE: MM/1 ss cards (Re: Msg 85285)
     From: LARRYOLSON   To: NIMITZ

   Ok, I'll get it out on Monday. I hate to think of someone out there
waiting for their MM/1. I went through that ;-)

larry

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85309 30-JAN 11:21 General Information
     RE: MM/1 buss cards (Re: Msg 85306)
     From: NIMITZ       To: LARRYOLSON

Thanks, Much Larry.   Incor lied to me about what they had available, but
I have a plan already to fix that, and this give me time - without missing
my deadlines!

             David

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85335 31-JAN 02:35 General Information
     RE: MM/1 buss cards (Re: Msg 85309)
     From: LARRYOLSON   To: NIMITZ

  Ok,  no problem...

larry

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End of Thread.

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85307 30-JAN 10:24 OSK Applications
     ZIP du jour
     From: JEJONES      To: ALL

Well...there must be yet another version of ZIP floating around, because I
have a .zip file that unzip doesn't work with.  The unzip I have is edition
#2, size 28712 bytes, CRC $35E711.  Is there a newer version out there ie:      $10C00      #68608
Init. data off:  $C1C0       #49600
Data ref. off:   $D58C       #54668
Prog Mod, 68000 obj, Sharable


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85318 30-JAN 18:59 OSK Applications
     RE: ZIP du jour (Re: Msg 85308)
     From: JEJONES      To: WRHAMBLEN

 > I think there is a later version in the databases.  Ident -x unzip yields
 > the following:...

Hmmm...I couldn't find that in the databases.  Perhaps you got it elsewhere?

*** posted w/InfoXpress 1.1 ***

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85322 30-JAN 21:31 OSK Applications
     RE: ZIP du jour (Re: Msg 85307)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: JEJONES

You have the same version I have, and yes, there is a newer version
out there, at least for DOS users there is. And the ZIP file you have
was apparently zipped up with the new version. For some reason, they
made the default format incompatable with all previous versions of
PKZIP.

I don't know if the original creator of UnZip has modified it to support
the new format yet or not. I don't have it. Wish I did!

----aeasy test I can try?
  -Andy

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End of Thread.

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85313 30-JAN 14:09 OSK Applications
     RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85278)
     From: JOELHEGBERG  To: LARRYOLSON

I also wish there was a way to stop the _ss_play function in mid-play, but
it still doesn't prevent your program from doing other things while it's
playing.  Perhaps there's some way you can make your program only play parts of
the
sample (say 1 second each) strung together, so you could always stop the play
within a second's time?  (I don't know if this will work, as there may be
noticeable glitches in the sound quality.)

I agree also that Chris Hawks' SOUND program is wonderful!  I like how things
are shown on screen, and how the program works.  I don't know the .IFF sound
file format, and have yet to find someone who does.  Mike Knudsen also wrote
a sound recorder/player program (probably the first on the MM/1) called
RECPLAYS (I believe), and that also saves files with the .IFF file extension,
but the other sounr t this would be like using a sledge hammer to hang wall
board. I would think that _ss_play() would be the place to put some added
signal handleing.
  I can only hope that the keeper of Kwindow's is watching, and that maybe
this problem will be addressed.
  As far as the IFF standards is concerned, maybe we should forget it, and
look for a new standard that is being used and has specifications available.
  On another related subject, do you know anyone that is working on a
program to play Midi files. I don't mean hooking a Midi keyboard up to the
computer and outputing the data to the keyboard. I guess what I'm thinking
of would be a program that would take a Midi file and build up the wave
forms in memory and then send them to _ss_play(). Sounds easy ;-)
  Oh, well

larry

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85339 31-JAN 03:11 OSK Applications
     RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85323)
     From: LARRYOLSON   To: HAWKSOFT (NR)

  No plug, just a satisfied customer :-)

  Are you thinking of adding more features to Soundl oe, since Strack (ModJukeBox &
StrMan) play those Amiga MOD files pretty nicely.

  -- Joel.


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End of Thread.

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85316 30-JAN 14:44 OSK Applications
     nroff
     From: VAXELF       To: ALL

  Does anyone know where I can get a copy of NROFF. I found one copy
but it always gives me a OVERFLOW error.

John D.

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85328 30-JAN 22:00 OSK Applications
     RE: nroff (Re: Msg 85316)
     From: WRHAMBLEN    To: VAXELF

There's a program called CAWF on the high-priced source that does
nroffly things.

Bud

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End of Thread.

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85317 30-JAN 17:30 General Information
     MOTD
     From: LUCKYONE     To: CBJ


Carl,

I just received the Nov./Dec. issue of the MOTD, and I think that it is
shaping up to be a real nice newsletter. You and Joel keep up the good
work.

Howard

   Howard Luckey
   delphi LUCKYONE
   CIS 74746,3207

       ********** By InfoXpress 1.01 of course! **********



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85319 30-JAN 21:05 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Deh
  ey frustrating one! Wait for a couple minutes and still nothing!

   I've had nothing but problems with sprintnet at 9600 access to Delphi
as of late.  I have a choice of 2 numbers to use.. the local one won't
sink with my modem 9 out of 10 tries, and the other works half the time.

   But today I got a Tymnet 9600 number and that works 100% with the same
modem.. NO changes to the modem setup either!  Soooo, the heck with
sprintnet.  I will say that I do have some static on the line, and I called
my local baby bell about that.  Trick here is:  tell them you have a hearing
aid and the noise is unbearable :)

 > Once I got directly into the VAX operating system though. Good thing it
 > is password protected, though I could get a directory (decided to log off
 > after that, just in case !).
 >

   At least you could of bumped up your procs priority - just a little <g>.
It just might of helped with those logins :)...


   John -
         johnbaer@delphi.com      jbaer@pacs.pha.pa.us
   * hr no way around this.
 >My wife says, "Why can't it be simple like my computer at work
 >(messy-dos)?"  She doesn't realize that someone else who know all about
 >MS-DOS has already done all the work, so that when she turns on the
 >computer, the hard-drive auto boots...

 I disagree with the contention that OS9 _requires_ user understanding and
 input to work.  My daughter uses one of my COCO's all the  time to play OS9
 games with.  She puts in the disk, types "DOS<CR>" and waits for the machine
 to boot.  After bootup a menu is printed to each of the open windows which
 gives her a three letter name to type to start up a game.  After that she
 does have to know how to play the game but her "use" of OS9 is entirely
 transparent to her.

 It's true that I had to create all the scripts and prepare the directories
 and etc. but THAT IS TRUE FOR ANY OPERATING SYSTEM.  Even the, so-called,
 "user friendly" graphic interfaces like the Mac and Windows requires that
 someone who knows what they'rereffor the two systems in your situation
 requires some normalizing for difference in motivation.

 >The Wang VS is complex, but the utilities that go with it are so user
 >friendly for general operations that anyone can learn to keep a system going
 >within 60-90 days. Now that IS a system already in operation, but OS-9
 >shouldn't be harder than a mini-computer to run!

 Until I got level II for my first COCO 3 I'd never used OS-9 except for
 Robot Oddessy but, since playing that game never requires any direct
 interaction with the opsys, I don't count it as 'using'.  I, frankly, can't
 understand what the big deal is about learning this stuff.  It didn't take
 me '60-90 days' to learn how to get a system going.

 It's true the manuals aren't up to the quality of, say, Apple's Macintosh
 manuals but then who, besides Apple, is?  The level II manuals were pub-
 lished in 1986 - I didn't see many DOS systems with anything better then
 (actually, I didn't see _any_ DOS manuals I would considersIveen wondering about lately.

  1)  Has anyone gotten a version of LEX and YACC running on the CoCo III?

I've been thinking that they could be used to generate a real 6309 C compiler.


  2)  Is there a version of the zoo archiver for the CoCo III?

--Andy

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85340 31-JAN 05:23 General Information
     RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85326)
     From: JEJONES      To: BANANAMAN

 > Couple of things I've been wondering about lately.
 > 1)  Has anyone gotten a version of LEX and YACC running on the CoCo III?
 > I've been thinking that they could be used to generate a real 6309 C
 > compiler.

Actually, since those are programs that generate code, one could run them
on an OSK machine and move the generated code over to a 6809 to compile.

(A look over at the 68xxx versions shows flex and byacc running about
44-48K, so it might be possible to get them running on a 6809, though
I'm not sure how much memory they use while running, so it may well be
a tight fit.)

*** posted w/Inf.m...


              David

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85353 31-JAN 20:16 General Information
     RE: Wish list (latest) (Re: Msg 85340)
     From: BANANAMAN    To: JEJONES (NR)

Thankx for the Info.  Might be incentive to get a 68xxx box, but then that
would pretty much take care of my desire to get a 6309 compiler then.  Oh
well.  I've been thinking about playing around with Bison to see what I can
do to it.  Should be able to shave some code off, or split it up into a
couple of executables.  It'd be slow, but then so is my CoCo.  :-)
  --Andy

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End of Thread.

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85329 30-JAN 22:04 OSK Applications
     Gnu Chess
     From: WRHAMBLEN    To: ALL

I've received word from a couple of folks who couldn't get gnuchess to run
on MM/1's.  Gunchess _does_ run on a PT68K-4 (System IV).  Has anyone
succeeded it running gnuchess on an MM/1 or other system?

Thanks.

Bud

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85330 30-JAN 22:27 OSK Applications
     RE: Gnu Chess (Re: Msg 85329)
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: WRHAMBLEN

I *adoeoes off and on here on occasion.

Thanks.

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85355 31-JAN 20:27 General Information
     RE: 6551 problems (Re: Msg 85333)
     From: MITHELEN     To: BOISY

Glad ya got it working... Wish I could say the sam for the Sun memory board
I've been trying to repair... 16 more chips to replace, before I start
replaceing memory chips (144 of them!) I hope it doesn't come to that, my
eyes are starting to go on me... I'll be blind if I end up havine to replace
all them
memory chips...!
.lr
--
Paul

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85358 31-JAN 21:13 General Information
     RE: 6551 problems (Re: Msg 85355)
     From: ISC          To: MITHELEN

Paul,

going back over your
work so far before you start replacing more chips.  After extensive work,
PC boards tend to contain cold solder joints, cracked land patterns etc.

Good Luck and you are welcome to my two cents!

Bill

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85366 31-JAN 23:39 General Information
     RE: 6551 problems (Re: Msg 85358)
     From: MITHELEN     To: ISC (NR)

WElp... Lb ht hard to
 > write, actually.

Actually, it is very difficult to write.  Bill Dickhaus, the author of
InfoXpress, has spent a couple years perfecting it.  The problem is all
the different prompts and error messages you need to be expecting.

Here is my standard blurb on InfoXpress:

---------------------

InfoXpress is an program for automated access to Delphi and CIS.  Once
you setup the init file, you normally run InfoXpress from cron to call
up Delphi and CIS in the middle of the night.  It will download all
you waiting email (even binaries) and then go into each forum you have
specified (there can be many) and download all the messages there. When
you get up in the morning, all your messages are waiting.  You can then
view them, and make replies.  The replies are queued up and when InfoXpress
logins in the next time, your replies are uploaded, and then InfoXpress
goes and collects all the mail and forum messages again.

There are lots of features in InfoXpress, including keeping a hiar getting it online
of course).  You then browse it like you do the messages and select the
files you'd like to get.  IX will then download them at the next session.

The reason you don't see many bugs is because Steve Wegert is the beta
tester.  I swear, if there is a bug, Steve will find it.  Steve is the
same reason that Sterm is so solid.  If you ever need someone to beta
test your software, you can't find anyone better than Steve.


                  /************* /\/\ark ************/

                  (uploaded with InfoXpress Ver 1.01)

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85356 31-JAN 20:29 Telecom (6809)
     RE: D-Lite (Re: Msg 85344)
     From: MITHELEN     To: MARKGRIFFITH (NR)

That sounds great Mark... I've never actually seen IX in action... Seems
like whenever I go to fests... I never make it to 99% of the booths, and
so I mist all them neet products getting demoed.
--
Paul

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85370 1-FEB 01:01  Telecom (6809)
     RE: D-Lite (Re: Msg 85345)
     From: KSCALES      To: MARKGRIFFITH (NR)twaI intended.  Probably
"upcoming" would have been better?

 > The reason you don't see many bugs is because Steve Wegert is the beta
 > tester.  I swear, if there is a bug, Steve will find it.  Steve is the
 > same reason that Sterm is so solid.  If you ever need someone to beta
 > test your software, you can't find anyone better than Steve.

Right.  I've found that Colin McKay and Paul Fitch do a very good job,
too.  The thing that sets apart a good software tester isn't just finding
the "bugs", but trying to use the software from the perspective of a
customer (different configurations, different options, etc.), and providing
feedback on how to make it better.  Testing software doesn't mean "yes,
I loaded it and it ran OK on my system"!

A subject near to my heart. <g>

                                 Ken Scales
                 Manager, DMS International Test Evolution
                           Bell Northern Research
  * The above opinions are those of the author, and do not necessariet All
you need to do is put 'cron' in your startup file.  No options, nothing,
just the command 'cron&'.

Let me know if you need some more help.

                  /************* /\/\ark ************/

                  (uploaded with InfoXpress Ver 1.01)

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85350 31-JAN 19:59 OSK Applications
     RE: RUMOR (Re: Msg 85185)
     From: DAVGEORGE    To: VAXELF

From what I hear it is true.  Microsoft attempted to buy out Microware
back in 1986.  The main reason was because Microware had a REAL-TIME
operating system, and Microsoft was only MiSery-DOS.  They didn't have
Windows or anything back then.  (I don't consider any version of Windows
before 3.0 a usable product.)  OH, actually Microsoft did have Xenix, but
they never went anywhere with it other than Tandy 6000.  SCO picked up
Xenix (and still sells it) for Intel based systems, but now concentrates
on Unix.  Whoops, kinda got off the subject.

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85354 31-JAN 20:23 OSK Applications
     RE: RUMOR (Re: Msg 85350)
     Fe ofber optics. We got a
notice Saturday, telling us that durning the next 3-4 months, that our
area will be converted over and we could experience some interruption of
service until the conversion is complete.

John D.

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85372 1-FEB 05:39  OSK Applications
     RE: RUMOR (Re: Msg 85354)
     From: EDELMAR      To: VAXELF (NR)


 John,

 Following is a brief summary of a recent bidder's meeting at Bell Atlantic
 re 'VIDEO DIAL TONE SERVICE' - their name for AT&T's VOD.

 Three manufacturers have been selected to provide TV set-top boxes -
 Philips, IBM and DiviCom.  OS-9 is mandatory.  GFX and sound should be
 done under RAVE.  All box vendors must use Motorola's 68000 series micro-
 processors or a compatible chip.  IBM will use the 68000 with plans to
 upgrade to their PowerPC 400 series as soon as they are available.  (Motorola
 is developing its own separate PowerPC 300 series for this market).  Philips
 will also be using the 68000 with an upgrade planned - no chip disclosed.
  lications
     RE: protocol (Re: Msg 85291)
     From: DAVGEORGE    To: BKITT (NR)

In one of the archives of RZ/SZ there is a document from Omen
Technology discussing the Zmodem protocol.  It is not as straight-
forward as the X/Ymodem discussions in Serial Communications in C/C++,
but might give you the info you need.
If the document is not in RZ/SZ then look in the archive for XC.  This
is a Unix communications program where I have also found a paper on
Zmodem.  You will need to look in a Unix file area for this though.
I don't know if it is on Delphi, I know it is on Compuserve.

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85359 31-JAN 21:39 Telecom (6809)
     Mac/OS9 Cable
     From: JANG         To: ALL

Wanted: Macintosh/CoCo OS-9 Savvy help.
I want to transfer data between my CoCo-3 and My Macintosh.
I would like to use my Mac as a terminal to access the 20Meg
hard drive on my coco/OS-9 setup. Before I get to the software
problem, I will need to build a null-modem cable. I doubt that
there will be anything comme1 eal Information
     Microware on NPR
     From: MRGOOD       To: ALL

Did anyone hear the news story on Microware on National
Public Radio today?  It was interesting to hear Ken Kaplan
on the radio.  The story addressed Microware's small size and
competition from Microsoft.  Interesting stuff...

Hugo

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85361 31-JAN 22:47 General Information
     RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 85144)
     From: NEALSTEWARD  To: THETAURUS

I think I saw Coco Sculptor selling for $79 in either the Underground
or World of '68 micro's, but I'm not sure that was the coco version. I
assume it must be, because OSK s/w costs much more!  Originally it sold
for about $600, and I "stole" it for $149 back then.  I have release
1.14:6, but I think the last coco release was 1.14:7 which maintained
source compatibility with the other platforms.

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85362 31-JAN 22:51 General Information
     RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 84823)
     From: NEALSTEWARD  To: THETAURUS

I started writing some of the Basic09 code toe oies of SCULPTOR version 1.14.6
 which they are selling for $75.00.  These are not compatible with the
 later versions of SCULPTOR.

 Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO

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End of Thread.

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85363 31-JAN 23:09 Telecom (6809)
     RE: UUCP for CoCo (Re: Msg 85190)
     From: NEALSTEWARD  To: MITHELEN

Hey guys, I have a wife that LIKES it in the bedroom!!!  (big grin)

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85368 31-JAN 23:47 General Information
     COCO Keyboard PIA
     From: JMOORFOOT    To: ALL

My 81001(?) keyboard i/f PIA has died. Is this a Motorola 6820
clone? Can it be replaced by a 6821? A Tandy replacement is
not easy in Australia as we deal with InterTan (a Tandy offshoot).
        

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85371 1-FEB 05:28  General Information
     RE: COCO Keyboard PIA (Re: Msg 85368)
     From: COCOKIWI     To: JMOORFOOT (NR)

YEP! you can replace it with a 6821...put a socket in and plug one in!
I had one go on me! a keyboard extention cord<done by some of us<grin>
can zap it by static.I used a Rs..RS232 surge prot

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