From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/22/90 20:30:21
Message Number  2951

Sign up now for 3 or more AP courses and get ab-so-lute-lee free....
A bottle of Miss Clairol hair dye in brown or black.
A bottle of Malox in tasty lemon-lime (bring some to the party).
A bottle of Nuprins.
 
I told myself I would take it easy in my senior year, well, I lied!
I have Ap MicroEcon, AP American Government, AP AB Calc. (maybe), AP
Lit/Comp, Anatomy and Human Phys., an Externship (I hope), and 
Law Studies II.
 
Now that you've been bored by my schedule, I'm off to somewhere.
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From: NERISSA             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: HELLO          
Date & Time: 03/22/90 21:46:30
Message Number  2953

TURTLE, YOU ARE A REAL BBSER AND I LIKE THAT. AT LEAST YOU ALWAYS HAVE A
FEW LINES TO DROP TO A USER. KEEP BEING NICE AND TAKE CARE.
A NEW FRIEND NERISSA(NIS)
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From: NERISSA             
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: THANKS         
Date & Time: 03/22/90 21:48:38
Message Number  2954

GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU. I REALLY ENJOT ALL THIS , I AM STILL LEARNING
NEW THINGS TO DO.  I REALLY THINK EVERYONE IS REALLY NICE TO NEW USERS.
TILL NEXT TIME KEEP BEING NICE!
===========

From: NERISSA             
To: YNGLING             
Subject: ?              
Date & Time: 03/22/90 21:50:36
Message Number  2955

HELLO, WHO ARE YOU?  HOW OLD ARE YOU ?
WHAT ARE YOUR INTEREST?
CURIOUS PERSON HERE, AND LOVE TO GET MAIL!!!!!!!!
TILL NEXT TIME, SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!!:)
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From: TURTLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: Filmmaking     
Date & Time: 03/23/90 02:26:04
Message Number  2958

Columbia Pictures IS a famous studio. That's why they didn't release
the original movie, and that's why they will never release a sequel, no
matter how profitable it may be.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: NERISSA             
Subject: Hi...          
Date & Time: 03/23/90 02:28:04
Message Number  2959

OF COURSE I'm a real BBSer! What other kind is there? :)
Don't let the boyish grin fool you, though; I'm not always all that
nice... in fact, I've been known to be downright nasty from time
to time (like when I just get out of bed). Oh well, nobody's 
perfect, except me on my better days.... (smirk)
                         --A real Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: -ALL-               
Subject: Download Area  
Date & Time: 03/23/90 04:56:45
Message Number  2960

Now available for your viewing pleasure (?) in Area 1: The script for
the Rocky Horror Picture Show, including audience participation bits.
Don't know what Earthly use it will be to anyone, but hey, maybe
/someone/ will download it...
                        --An obscure Turtle
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From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Download Area  
Date & Time: 03/23/90 06:15:13
Message Number  2961

> Don't know what Earthly use it will be to anyone...
 
 Hmmm... It can be resurrected as a drama. We can rewrite the script. Or
we can take it to the movie and stand up in front of the screen and 
mouth the lines and duck toast... Or better yet, we can read it.
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/23/90 15:08:26
Message Number  2963

Well, that's true.  ST's are popular business computers in Europe
because they haven't had to compete with IBM as a ubiquitous, almost
mythical marketing force; over there, they're just another computer, and
are usually in the same price range as the Atari and Commodore 16-bit
machines, as the IBM is the "imported" brand there.  A West German
businessman will be a lot more likely to make a decision between, say,
an IBM with WordPerfect 5.0 and Clarion vs. an Amiga with Excellence!
and Superbase II based solely on the price/performance ratio of the
product rather than the "yes, but everbody /else/ uses PC-compatibles"
mentality common over here (which really does seem to be an overriding
consideration with buyers I have talked to).  From an American marketing
standpoint, IBM's are wonderful.  I'm currently working at RightSoft,
the place that makes RightWriter; they're just now making a Macintosh
version of their program.  To them, MS-DOS is a perfect environment: not
because it's technically very good, but because they'll sell truckloads
of their program in it.  That doesn't mean that a RightWriter for the
Amiga would be a worse program, or that the Atari ST isn't fully
capable of running it, too.
    When you said marketing has plenty to do with it, that was my point
exactly.  Your original message implied Atari ST's make lousy business
computers.  This isn't true; the software to make an Atari ST do all the
major "business things" a 286 machine will do is already there.  They
have their Lotus 1-2-3 and dBASE compatible programs, and have at least
one DTP package which "Desktop Publishing" said rivalled PageMaker 3.0.
Businesses don't use Atari ST's because of the image, plain and simple.
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Turtle Spew    
Date & Time: 03/23/90 15:19:41
Message Number  2964

> Need I add the good ol' Soviets prefer IBM?
 
Actually, their most popular home computer (such as it is) is a really
bad Apple II clone.  Nevertheless, that's not a terribly convincing
argument in making one want to run out and buy a PC compatible when you
get right down to it, is it?
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SAURON              
Subject: Libertarianism 
Date & Time: 03/23/90 17:11:39
Message Number  2967

Just figured that, what with your taste in reading material you'd love
porno flicks.  That's all...
     The Lady In Black
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/23/90 17:19:57
Message Number  2968

My,my...the magic hasn't left...I had noticed that you weren't 
preforming up to par lately, but I didn't realize that I had made you 
believe I was uninterested. :)  Please - bring your boyish grin back. 
Staring at you isn't the same without it.  :)  
  Hello, love.  I'm terribly sorry about not speaking...I come and go 
lately...quite literally, too!  This week is my first entire week in 
Sarasota, again!  Now I'm trying to decide where I'm going again.  By
chance, you don't scuba dive or cycle....do you?  (that would be bicycle
long distance)  My dive buddy disappeared....my cycling partner...there 
are many...who the hell knows!  At any rate, I suppose you will be at 
the party Saturday night?  If not - look out...I come to get you with 
my Black Magic in your sleep!!!!  :)  
  Was it you or Beatle who had books I requested to borrow?  If it 
 - forget what I was getting at...ah, well....my love, time is fading.
             The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/23/90 17:29:14
Message Number  2969

I have ap's, lemon malox (yum, yum!  I live on them - Pine View fuc*ed 
up my tummy...it wore holes in it), hair dye - but I don't use it, and 
Nuprin.  I'll bring all but the ap's if you like....
  Hey, I got my hair cut and you didn't notice.  I could cry.  Oh, I 
just remembered.  I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU!  OOPS!! 
       Bye...
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/23/90 17:49:08
Message Number  2970

I'm _really_ glad to hear you are working at RightSoft... I'm _supposed_
to be an authorised dealer for RightWriter, and recommend it highly to
all my customers, but I can't seem to get any leads from them and rarely
get any mail from them. Regardless, I _love_ their program.
 
I also think you see much of what I had been trying to say. Personally,
I hate this "my computer is better than your computer" junk. The better
focus is on making all of our computers get along together... one more
step toward world peace & all...
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: CHAS                
To: ALL                 
Subject: Picnick Time!  
Date & Time: 03/23/90 21:06:01
Message Number  2971

Join us at our Joint Monthly Indoor...
 
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     Sponsored by Suncoast City BBS and Wyvern's Den BBS
 
 When?  Saturday, March 24th, 11 AM to 2 PM
 Where? Le Croissant restaurant, Main St. in center city Sarasota
 Who?   ALL callers, sysops, etc.
 Why?   Because there will be great giveaways, great conversation
        and an inexpensive fun time!!
 
        [Giveaways include almost 100 cassette tapes (mostly
         jazz/fusion), external h.d. case/pwr supply, even a
         computer (sorta)!]   See ya there!!
 
===========

From: HAWK.I.             
To: BEATLE              
Subject: NOPE           
Date & Time: 03/23/90 22:19:00
Message Number  2974

Yea beatle someone like tyler(who has just about every)does'nt have a 
stero(sp). I hope we all have fun today or i mean tomorow. I will make a
predection....let me think....hmmmmmmm......."something very strange is
going to happen tomorrow something so strange not even the strangest
people there will understand it. Something so Strange it will baffle
the word Strange itself." That is my prediction..
 
                                      Hawk.I.
					                                 (Hawk for short)
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/23/90 23:30:43
Message Number  2976

>I got my hair cut and you didn't notice.
Well, it is hard to tell when you got curly hair.  I few curls here and
there and ya never notice.  If you were to shave off all your hair, then
I would notice.  Anyways, I couldn't tell you what I may be getting
Turtle because you'd probably get rabid and bite me (oops, that's me, 
isn't it?) when I had no chance to run.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Libertarianism 
Date & Time: 03/24/90 01:29:05
Message Number  2977

  You consider "Snuff" films porno?  Strange.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: YNGLING             
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/24/90 08:06:11
Message Number  2978

looks like it'll be first Sat. in May. Sorry, for it being so far off,
but it's a lot of work getting these things together.....
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/24/90 08:07:31
Message Number  2979

This one is organized by the social committee where I work but I've
decided to open it to others (not much social-oriented people at work).
It will most likely be the first Sat. in May. It will be the kind where
you get a bunch of clues in sealed envelopes and numbered. At the start,
you will be given a number, you open that envelope, figure out where the
clue is telling you to go, and you go there. Then you'll find a sign
with another number telling you which envelope to open next (some will 
be phonies to make sure no-one cheats). There will be a help line if
you get lost and a picnic at the last location....get it???
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: ViSuAlItY      
Date & Time: 03/24/90 08:11:32
Message Number  2980

...is it possible we were holding each other's ears????
  
ssssssssss
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/24/90 08:13:58
Message Number  2981

Love to, but things aren't lookin' like I'll be able to......
do-do occurs......(or is that sh*t happens?)
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: <***>          
Date & Time: 03/24/90 08:16:08
Message Number  2982

Maam, your life is spared. I don't think I could handle any of that
medical proffession stuff...but I do have an imagination and I have
seen DEAD RINGERS. The only things I get to fondle at work are a
pencil, or parts of my 'puter.......awwww puck-it!
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/24/90 09:30:41
Message Number  2983

>No, no, not... the 3 ton Mercedes from hell???
     
   Yes! <Maniacal laughter!> (Actually, in a lot of cases, speed is
important for a road rallye -- so if I'm part of a team, we might use
someone else's car... but, who knows?)
                Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: A LONG TIME    
Date & Time: 03/24/90 09:34:53
Message Number  2984

T>I drove two thousand miles to go bowling with a geek.
>Why?
     
   You NEVER ask that question of Turtle. Once, he and Donthen drove
to Atlanta because Donthen knew of a "place that served really good
chili" there...
                  Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: Mythagoras    
Date & Time: 03/24/90 09:44:37
Message Number  2985

You should have have a certain cigar-smoking barkeep (who I wouldn't
DREAM of naming...) warn users after log-on:
       
   "Anything you say in this board may be folded, spindled, and
mutilated, and quoted in Mythagoras."
                    Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/24/90 09:46:12
Message Number  2986

So far, I'm alone in the road rallye. (No one else in on my team.)
But, I'm interested.
                Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SAURON              
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 03/24/90 09:51:14
Message Number  2987

>...are the same ones who see nothing wrong with flag burning.
     
   Just wait a second... whatever happened to the first admendment 
rights? 
   Burning the flag is about the strongest way one can show one's 
hatred of the U.S. It's an incredibly powerful symbol. BUT -- it's
still merely a means of expressing one's right to extremely free
speech.
   We're supposed to be the most free nation on this Earth. (I doubt
it.) We're supposed to have our Bill of Rights to protect us. Do
we mean "we have freedom of speech -- for those who agree with us"?
                       Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: BEATLE              
Subject: catalogs       
Date & Time: 03/24/90 10:04:50
Message Number  2988

>Is anyone interested in seeing some catalogs from Intergalactic 
>Trading, Co.??
     
   Yes! I didn't realize Earth had YET made contact with the 
Federation...
               Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: NERISSA             
Subject: THANKS         
Date & Time: 03/24/90 10:10:00
Message Number  2989

>TILL NEXT TIME KEEP BEING NICE!
    
   Oh, why would I want to do something like that? (hee hee!)
   So, Nerissa -- tell us about yourself. Are you in school? Where?
Are you working somewhere? Got any interesting hobbies?
                         Chip P. UnicornChip P. Unicorn
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/24/90 12:06:38
Message Number  2991

:)  I'm not allowed to talk to strangers.
    The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SAURON              
Subject: Libertarianism 
Date & Time: 03/24/90 12:07:13
Message Number  2992

No, not "snuff" films...a separate issue are the pornos.
     Black Magic
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: ViSuAlItY      
Date & Time: 03/24/90 12:07:57
Message Number  2993

I "SSSSSSSsssssssssssss" back at you!  My friend, I beg of you, let my
ear go...it makes everyday life a bitch when your holding onto it! 
             :)
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/24/90 12:09:00
Message Number  2994

Sh*t happens!  Then again, life's a Bitch, too!!! :)
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: <***>          
Date & Time: 03/24/90 12:09:56
Message Number  2995

:)  I saw Dead Ringers, too!  A good movie it was... Thank g-d your not
a gynecologist...I was seriously thinking of canceling my next appt.!
       The Lady
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: A LONG TIME    
Date & Time: 03/24/90 15:36:10
Message Number  2997

Actually, Donthen and I didn't really go to Atlanta for a cup of chili;
that's just the way it ended up. We went to Atlanta to go to a Kinko's
Copies where someone who Donthen has heard of from furry fandom 
allegedly works; we never did find out because when we got there it
said "Kinko's Copies: Open 24 Hours. Sorry, we're closed." I guess
they didn't mean 24 hours /in a row./ So we got some chili and drove
back. (On the other hand, I did drive to Illinois to wash all my dirty
laundry once...)
                     --A well-travelled Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Mythagoras    
Date & Time: 03/24/90 15:38:52
Message Number  2998

>Anything you say in this board may be folded, spindled, and mutilated,
>and quoted in Mythagoras.
 
Of course. Why warn people about the obvious? If you post something on
a public-access bulletin board, it is in the public domain by default...
unless you actively make sure it isn't.
                    --A public-domain Turtle
(c) 1990 Anarchy Now, Inc.
 
^^^ See, that's the way it's done...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Freedom & <>   
Date & Time: 03/24/90 15:41:22
Message Number  2999

>Do we mean "we have freedom of speech -- for those who agree with us"?
 
In a word, yes. Welcome to the 90's, Son; these days it's kosher to
wrap yourself in the flag and burn the bill of rights. Civil liberties
George Bush-style, you understand. Blitzkreig the Constitution, make
friends, influence people...that's the way it's done in a kinder,
gentler nation.
            --A pinko liberal communist hippie intellectual Turtle
Thousand points of light!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Neat stuff     
Date & Time: 03/24/90 15:46:35
Message Number  3000

You know what fascinates me? Cotton swabs. You know, the little
things that come in neat boxes with the flap at one end that lets
you take the swabs out without spilling them all over if you drop it.
Take the culmination of two hundred years of chemical engineering
and materials research, some nasty black stuff that's pumped at great
labor and expense from miles beneath the earth's crust and shipped
across the world in gigantic sailing vessels, and apply the one to
the other to make the funky blue plastic shaft (a complex hydrocarbon
polymer which doesn't occur naturally anywhere in the known universe,
or in orange groves either.) Then, spend an entire year and a lot of
effort growing cotton plants, so the seed heads can be carefully
harvested, combed, and spun into cotton. Apply tufts of the cotton
to the polymer shaft, package a bunch of these things together, and
sell them. Why? So you can stick them in your ear and throw them
away. Isn't that neat?
                     --An easily impressed Turtle
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From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/24/90 17:44:31
Message Number  3002

>:)  I'm not allowed to talk to strangers.
>    The Lady
Woooga boooga bip bop beeep
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From: JOE ONION           
To: ALL                 
Subject: Space Age      
Date & Time: 03/24/90 23:51:39
Message Number  3003

I have been sent here as a messenger from God to tell you the latest on
Space Age things.  Space Age I got fried.  Space Age II moved.  Space
Age III is Space Age I in a different place.  Got it?  
 
Space Age II...8541368 (coming in April I think)
Ditto Dit Di...8542094 (dittod di Ditto D ditto)
Ditto Dit III..3667369
Ditto Dit III..3667469
 
 Thanks for your time.
 Me and Him really appreciate it.
 
    Joseph Onion
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: ViSuAlItY      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 00:27:15
Message Number  3004

I shall assume then that you know what you are doing. And if I am 
holding but one 'ear', what mighten I be doing with my other? I feel
a single ear hold would trough one's rhythm off......sssssssOK?
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 00:30:37
Message Number  3005

It's all perspective......don't look at the world through shit 
colored glasses. I try not to, but damn these Varnets!!!!
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: <***>          
Date & Time: 03/25/90 00:32:13
Message Number  3006

With me or your gynecologist????
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: ALL                 
Subject: FURR           
Date & Time: 03/25/90 00:33:03
Message Number  3007

It's Saturday night, Furry Party time an I ain't there!!!! I hope you
guys have a blast, throw up in your shoes and choke to (near) death on
a giant sized hair ball!!!! Just watched "Elephant Parts" and thought of
you. BLOW IT OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
===========

From: ---ROBOTRON---      
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: BASIC/Pascal   
Date & Time: 03/25/90 00:47:24
Message Number  3008

Hey, yo, Javelin Head!  Your right about BASIC (note:BASIC, not Basic)
As long as your talking about origins and not destinies.  Todays
BASICs and ForTrans are completely different animals from their arcane
beginnings.  Both are proceduralized and paramitized - thats a new one
on BASIC; And ForTran's actually got primitive (very primitive) string
support!  Overall, however, even full implementations of both of them
lack the real gusto of say "C" to do serious applications programming.
    Pascal is an excellent beginners language, and in experienced
hands has the power to be a full applications language.  I'm referring
specifically to Turbo Pascal 4.0 or later - Borland is after all the
standard in that arena. There's a variable type: "Absolute", which
lets you state the exact memory location of any object (int,array,record
or whatever).  With this it's posible to do very powerful direct memory
programming.  Another high powered ability is Pascals method of handling
strings.  Because the str's len' is held in arraypos[0], very fast str'
opperations can be performed.  Knowing the len of a str' allows the
fastest posible chip level instructions to be used for data movement.
    In final analysis however, "C" is my only choice, for I can write my
own perfectly optimized string library that's len' based if I need that
extra milli-second, and with "C", I usally don't need it
                         		<<<<<<<<<<<<metalnose>>>>>>>>>>>
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From: ---ROBOTRON---      
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Public Sighing 
Date & Time: 03/25/90 01:09:02
Message Number  3009

How dare you expell such DEVIL SPAWNED FILTH in public ! ! ! ! !
===========

From: ---ROBOTRON---      
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 01:32:40
Message Number  3010

To answer "why do I find myself..." I have to turn the calendar back
about 6 years, to when the MiSeryDOS PC was new.  At that time, the
only other computers in common existence in the under $5000 price range
were the Apple 2's and Vic's, and a somewhat later the Atari 400/800's.
(Those wern't the only ones, but they'll do for the argument).  At the
time, the I-Been-Moved MiSeryDOS PC was a resonable choice for a bus-
iness computer.  The others, just didn't quite have the kick needed.
However, since that time, those machines have dominated the American
market while not evolving at all.  The business world is terrified of
new things, and that has allowed the MiSeryDOS PC itself to stagnate.
If the business world in general new more about computers, I might be
using an ST at work, or I might be using an AST that ran like an ST!
===========

From: ---ROBOTRON---      
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: IBM ?!?!?      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 01:45:44
Message Number  3011

I'll give you a good reason to switch...
	I've been having fun with my new Atari Laser Printer of late,
and I've discovered something about using it... It's incredibly fast,
much faster than the HP Series II I use at work.  Printing fully
formatted pages at work with text and graphics often takes over a minute
per page (not the advertised 8 pages per minute that you only get with
straight ASCII text).  That time costs a great deal of money.
Using the setup I have at home, I get 18 seconds for the first page OF
ANYTHING and 8 TO 9 PAGES PER MINUTE OF ANYTHING after that!
                                       ------ROBOTRON------
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From: ---ROBOTRON---      
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: A Future       
Date & Time: 03/25/90 01:51:29
Message Number  3012

My computer is better than your computer.....
    Your right, on the surface this is silly.  And when I'm suggesting
computers to people who are about to bye, I tell them go look at ST's,
Amiga's and Machintosh's, because while I prefer the ST, ther're all
good machines.  The problem is that the insistance that the worst
choice is the best has caused a tremendous stagnation in computer R&D.
Without competition, why make it better?  It was the Machintosh the
caused the AT to be released.  It's Motorola that's causing Intell to
come out with the 286,386,486.  If that compitition had been stronger
sooner, we'ed all be benifitting today and tommorow.  It's our res-
ponsibility to keep the presure on.
===========

From: ---ROBOTRON---      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Atari-Hyperspce
Date & Time: 03/25/90 01:59:37
Message Number  3013

I've been playing with my LASER printer.  Have you ever printed any-
thing on a high end PC to a high end LASER printer?  Anything other
than straight ASCII text will take over a minute for a page!  Your
right it's not terribly fare, but if this is about farness, there should
be around 5 million ST's in american businesses.  I've found that it
takes my setup 18 seconds to print page 1, and after that it's mind
boggling -- It approaches 9 PAGES PER MINUTE at times - fully formatted
multi font text, screen dumps, etc...
===========

From: JONBOY              
To: ---ROBOTRON---      
Subject: Languages      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 08:40:34
Message Number  3014

Hmmm.. it's interesting that Borland Turbo Pascal seems to incorporate
a lot of Modula-2 ideas...  Have you ever heard of UCSD Pascal?  Last
I heard a company called Pecan was trying to snap up all of the 
compilers for this variant of Pascal and is actually quite good.  It
defines the entire operating environment including editor, filing system
system utilities etc etc.
I also prefer C, I do wish that some languages that are available were
"full-strength" like their main-frame cousins.  I love Quintus Prolog
on the VAX under VMS and could actually learn to prefer it over anything
else for some applications.  Sighhh - not to be tho we are stuck with
Borland's "Turbo-pas-log" variant bastard child.
 
		                        --==>* JonBoy *<==--
===========

From: JONBOY              
To: ---ROBOTRON---      
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 08:47:01
Message Number  3015

Hurray for Reason & Rational!!!  Methinks you smacked the underlying
reason on the noggin - three magic letters and a fear of flying...
(Sheesh & I make my living on these things!)
 
	                             --==>* JonBoy *<==--
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/25/90 10:49:31
Message Number  3016

Got it... count me in. I _think_ I have a partner (time will tell, I
guess).
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Neat stuff     
Date & Time: 03/25/90 10:53:38
Message Number  3017

You've been listening to Andy Rooney again, haven't you? Haven't you?
 
I _thought_ so!
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: ---ROBOTRON---      
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 10:55:49
Message Number  3018

A ha! So for you, it was a matter of timing & finances. IBM did it
earlier and cheaper. By the time the others caught on, people were too
molded in their ways, so now you _can't_ change their minds!
 
hahahahahahah
 
(pardon the laugh... it's leftover from the furry party)
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: ---ROBOTRON---      
Subject: IBM ?!?!?      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 10:58:11
Message Number  3019

If your machine multitasks or you have a nice size external printer
buffer, the time is no longer a concern, since it doesn't hold you up.
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/25/90 11:33:48
Message Number  3020

Yes, and I feel the same about you!
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: ViSuAlItY      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 11:35:18
Message Number  3021

sssssssSOK.  However, if you don't let go, you may be in serious 
trouble!  Watch your step...I may be right behind you.
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 11:36:29
Message Number  3022

I don't...however, you do!  I've no point today, ignore me!  Why weren't
you at the Furry Party?  You've no good excuse.  My boyfriend was really
pissed off that I wanted to go to Turtle's Furry Party over spending the
night with him...I am now recieving the silent treatment...the only prob
-lem about that is that we are sleeping in the same bed.  Damn him!! :) 
So, what's your good excuse?  Ahhhhh...you have none!
          The Silent Lady In Black
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: <***>          
Date & Time: 03/25/90 11:41:18
Message Number  3023

Hehehehe...cute, love.  Both!!
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/25/90 12:07:42
Message Number  3024

[I'm typing in this message with a fear that I will set up a loop again]
 
>Yes, and I feel the same about you!
Awwwwwww, do ya really mean that?!
How sweet...
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Personal?      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 13:31:21
Message Number  3025

"Best" and "better" are not purely subjective.  A Z80 is better at I/O
than an 8086, no matter /what/ way you look at I/O.  I understand what
you're getting at, but I think you totally missed my point.  A compara-
tive judgement /can/ be made between two different items (in this case,
computers with a specific task--which, by the way, in a way is what you
said in the second message).
 
Taking into account "means" in meaningless and clouds the discussion.
I'd be impressed if you found a task the VIC-20 does better than, say,
and Amiga 500, but even if you could, the Amiga is undoubtedly better
than the VIC-20... as a computer... as an appliance... and for at least
90% of task-speecific examples.  As for means, I know the ON! is a
better machine than an XT clone.  Just because I could afford the XT and
not the ON! does not change the fact the ON! is a better machine.
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 13:38:43
Message Number  3026

> ... if an Atari computer is so good at bsiness applications, why do
> you find yourself using an AST at work, rather than an Atari???
 
That "arguement" (which is technically an informal fallacy of logic) is
meaningless.  VHS is by far more popular than ED Beta (video tape), but
that makes the Beta tape no less capable at video recording applications
(in fact, the Beta is better... /far/ better than the VHS is just about
eveery conceivable aspect of A/V recording).  The Atari may well be an
excellent business machine (and, in fact, is)--the world is still seems
to be straddled with Big Grey "technology."
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 13:44:40
Message Number  3027

> ... the Amiga is obviously a toy computer and the IBM/compatible
> computers are obviously the only computers for any serious work.
> Just ask anyone who beleives that, and they'll confirm it for you.
 
Heh-heh.  The reason, of course, is simple.  I mean, after all, the
Amiga is just an over-glorified C=64.
 
You hit on a point (SFP--self-fulfilling profecy) which so few of those
entranced with the Big Grey comprehend, but the sad fact is that it is
true.  Even at thee outset of the "Blue Revolution" we can see the 
initial effects, and the power of the letters I-B-M.  No one in their
right mind that knew anything about computers thought much of the first
IBM PC... except, perhaps, that it was bad.  And now wee have a world
standard built around this nasty box, intel iAPX86 CPU's (bad to begin
with, but worse strapped into minimum mode as they are in IBM-type
architechtres), and a bad 8-bit DOS.  Scary, huh?
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Sauron's stats 
Date & Time: 03/25/90 13:53:07
Message Number  3028

Actually, I assumed the message was in jest, seeing how ridiculously
he missed the whole point.
 
Pro-flagburners?  That's an /awwfully/ small audience there... like
maybe one out of a million or so US citizens (perhaps a bit higher %age
worldwide).  I'd suspect those troubled few wouldn't care too much
about the whole colorization thing anyway.
 
That 1:1,000,000 statistic was purely a guess.  I only knew one person
who burned a US flag (beyond, obviously, the mandditory destruction
tradition) and he didn't stike me as the type to advocate it much....
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/25/90 14:05:34
Message Number  3029

It has occured to me that I don't know beans about Sarasota.  After
reading SNAKEBYTE's description of the rally, I've determined I'd be
near useless to you as nav.  Maps on unfamillier territory where the
other players are equally unaquainted with the lay of the land, sure;
and I'm no slouch at information useage, but I think you'd be better
off with a nav who has spent more time in Sarasota.
 
I'd /love/ to go along for the ride... of course, I /could/ always
drive... or whatever.
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 14:08:52
Message Number  3030

> They learned MS-DOS on thee PC.  Why switch to a strange, unsupported
> ST when they can keep their vastly supported MS-DOS on [a new, faster
> computer]?
 
Many computer users and programmers were quite used to CP/M on their old
platforms.  Why switch to a strange, unsupported IBM PC/XT/AT platform
and MS-DOS when they can keep their vastly supported CP/M on a new,
faster CP/M platform?
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: IBM v TRS-80   
Date & Time: 03/25/90 14:12:58
Message Number  3031

I know that particular contest.
The IBM clone is a Compaq Deskpro 386/20 with a counting program coded
in 80386 assembly.
The TRS-80 is a Model I.
Yup... the IBM clone got to 1000 before the TRS-80 alright.
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Snobs          
Date & Time: 03/25/90 14:15:31
Message Number  3032

Just like those Hyundai owners.
 
Any majority, despite overwhelming inferiority, will feel not only
superior, but probably be elitist and snobbish about it.  Neat, huh?
Ah... ain't humanity grand?
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Turtle Spew    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 14:17:25
Message Number  3033

> Need I add the good ol' Soviets prefer IBM?
 
Heh-heh-heh...
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Mythagoras    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 14:26:50
Message Number  3034

Fold, spindle, and mutilate?  <grin>
===========

From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: BINGO!         
Date & Time: 03/25/90 14:27:46
Message Number  3035

> "we have freedom of speech--for those who agree with us."
 
So few nondesicration amendment supporters grok that.  A real pity that
they're self-rightously defending the flag in their pseudo-patriotism
and not even really know what it is they're "defending."
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: ---ROBOTRON---      
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/25/90 14:58:50
Message Number  3036

> At that time the only computers in the under $5000 range....
 
No, no, no.  The original IBM PC was introduced in 1981, not six years
ago.  At the time, the VIC had not been released.  For under $5000, you
could get a TRS-80 Model III, TRS-80 Model 16 (the 68000 Xenix machine),
Apple II, Apple III, Commodore PET, any number of good CP/M machines
including Kaypro 2/4/10, Lobo Max-80, LNW-80, Intertec Superbrain, etc.,
the TRS-80 Color Computer, the Exidy Sorcerer, Northstar Horizon,
Cromemco CDOS machines, Altos OS-9 machines, and probably several others
that escape me.  Recall that in 1981, the TRS-80 line was the best-
selling computer on the market, even though it's all but forgotten now.
And back then when people talked about running an application under
"DOS", they were most likely to be talking about Apple DOS or Horizon
DOS....
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: FURR           
Date & Time: 03/25/90 15:46:18
Message Number  3037

 > Just watched "Elephant Parts"...
 
  Ahh! I have to rent that. We watched some Max Headroom and "Rock and 
Rule" last night.
  I had a great time, everyone who was there. My parents did almost have
a cow because I walked in the door at 1:12 AM. I wonder when I'll be 
allowd to be out all night...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Sankebyte      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 15:55:25
Message Number  3038

  Yeah, where /was/ Snakebyte? It would have been interesting to meet 
him... I guess we shall just have to wait until the Road Rally.
===========

From: CARRENTHEON         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/25/90 21:01:18
Message Number  3039

Hmmm! Sounds like great fun.. I wish to be included in it... guess i 
could be the driver... know sarasota pretty well also.. is this going to
be a multi-city (Sarasota, Bradenton, venice) kind of deal? or just in
sarasota?
Carrentheon
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: School         
Date & Time: 03/25/90 21:39:51
Message Number  3040

For those of use to whom school is a distant blur, refresh us... what
the heck does the AP mean before all your courses?  Sounds like a 
killer schedule.
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Rocky          
Date & Time: 03/25/90 21:42:38
Message Number  3041

No need to resurrect the script as a drama; it was originally a stage
show.  Several theaters in the area have contemplated producing it,
but so far no one has actually done it.
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Thanks         
Date & Time: 03/25/90 22:02:54
Message Number  3042

Thanks for hosting the Furry Party at your place.  Had a wonderful
time... hope the neighbors did as well.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Neat stuff     
Date & Time: 03/25/90 22:10:30
Message Number  3043

   Have you ever considered the kinds of people who use cotton swabs?  I
mean, what good can those funny little soft-ended batons do?  And who in
God's name could find a use for them?  Of course, certain members of 
certain races might try to start brush fires with them, or cleanse their
skin of obvious pigmental defects.  They might also be useful cleanup
aids to follow certain shunned sexual acts.  But it is completely beyond
me how these things get thought up.
   Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to clean my ears out and kill the 
fungus between my toes with rubbing alcohol.  Write me if you have any
suggestions as to what to use.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: FURR           
Date & Time: 03/25/90 22:29:30
Message Number  3044

Thpth! Pbbbbbbbbbbth! PTHPTH!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ---ROBOTRON---      
Subject: Atari-Hyperspce
Date & Time: 03/25/90 22:34:02
Message Number  3045

Well, I'm kind of spoiled myself; the first laser printer I ever used
in my life was a Talaris printer with 1780x1240 dot-per-inch resolution
that printed about three pages per /second/. It was connected to a
DECsystem-20/60 After moving from that down to a LaserWriter II NTX,
I was kind of annoyed that the LaserWriter took sooooooo bloody long
to do anything; I suspect that if I were forced to use an HP for
any length of time I would die. (I still haven't figured out why so
many people are fascinated with the HP-series laser printers; it seems
to me the biggest arguments in favor of laser printers are their speed
and graphics capabilities, and the HP printers don't have either one
to speak of. Not only don't they "do" PostScript, they aren't even
terribly flexible printers unless you want to buy a whole stack of
font cartridges...and font cartridges for a laser printer always seemed
somewhat silly to me to begin with.)
                        --A lasing Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: JONBOY              
Subject: Languages      
Date & Time: 03/25/90 22:40:00
Message Number  3046

Weird thing: Borland made (briefly) a Turbo Modula-2 for CP/M, which
they never released for MS-DOS. If you call and ask them about it now,
they will strenuously deny that there ever was a Turbo Modula-2 for
any operating system, ever, despite the fact that there is a GEnie
RoundTable for Turbo Modula-2 programmers and a good deal of Z-System
program development is done in Turbo Modula-2... I wonder if that means
Borland has placed Turbo Modula-2 in the public domain by refusing to
be associated with it. If so, I should find someone who has it ands copy
it.
                     --An assembly Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Neat stuff     
Date & Time: 03/25/90 22:43:12
Message Number  3047

Nope; I almost never listen to Andy Rooney. The man gets on my nerves.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ANGEL               
Subject: AP & stuff     
Date & Time: 03/25/90 22:48:59
Message Number  3048

I will take the liberty of answering your question for Rufus.
 
AP stands for "Advance Placement"; it indicates a high-school course
for which you can get college credit. AP courses involve an Advance
Placement exam at the end of the school year, which is generally
quite rigorous; the exam is graded on a numeric scale from 1 to 5.
People who receive either a 3 or better or a 2 or better, depending on
which college they attend, will receive college credit for the
class; the AP class "transfers" to the college the same way a transfer
credit does.
                    --An AP Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ANGEL               
Subject:               
Date & Time: 03/25/90 22:53:10
Message Number  3049

You are most welcome; it was an honor and a privelege. The neighbors
haven't come beating on the door yet, so I assume they had fun.
                     --A neighborly Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: WHOEVER'S INTERESTED
Subject: Hmm...         
Date & Time: 03/26/90 05:14:42
Message Number  3051

I just awakened with the realization that there are 147 uniquely-
defined vectors through a 5x5x5 matrix. Furthermore, 27 of those
vectors pass through the matrix's center, defined as the point
{3,3,3}. Unfortunately, what I /don't/ remember is what I was
dreaming about before I woke up. I just thought I'd share that
with you all...it's late, I'm tired, I'm going back to bed.
                     --A three-dimensional Turtle
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/26/90 07:40:03
Message Number  3052

Your fear is valid...ghod, I hate real life loops as much as Pascal ones
...but I think Pascal ones are worse. :>
        The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Sankebyte      
Date & Time: 03/26/90 07:43:44
Message Number  3053

Hmmmm...let us just assume he had other plans.  I know you were at the 
party, but were we introduced?  I swear, I don't recall having met you..
      the lady /in lower case/
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Snakebyte      
Date & Time: 03/26/90 10:52:31
Message Number  3055

  No, we probably weren't intoduced, but it was hard to miss me. I was 
the one with the brilliant idea to take the camcorder (mine) to the 
SuperAmerica.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: School         
Date & Time: 03/26/90 12:45:13
Message Number  3056

AP stands for Advanced Placement (or Anal Pain (pain in the butt)).
This means you can take this test at the end of the year, and depending
what you score on it (one to five points), you can earn credits for
college.  Most schools like a 3 or above, and some schools offer more
credits for a higher score.
I hope (fingers crossed, tail knotted) that I get an externship.  It
would be a wonderful learning experience (sounds like the essay I
did!), and fun to boot.
A bit more, APs and Honors courses are weighted, which means you
an A is worth five, a B is worth four, etc.  Some schools look at this,
but most of them have their own weighting system.  I'm looking for the
system that says "We'll ignore the D average in Spanish."
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: Thanks         
Date & Time: 03/26/90 12:50:49
Message Number  3057

I second that Thanks (is that allowed, I hear Florida has strict laws
regarding Seconds, including second helpings of food.  Of course, the
Wendy's Super Bar (and the likes) are excluded from this law).
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: FURR           
Date & Time: 03/26/90 12:52:44
Message Number  3058

>Thpth! Pbbbbbbbbbbth! PTHPTH!
You really shouldn't be saying that.  Remeber what happened when I
typed in W-o-o-g-a B-o-o-g-a?
 
I hope your computer can't spell (I know /I/ can't).
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/26/90 12:56:21
Message Number  3059

I'd rather watch episodes of Seabert than deal with Pascal.  One year
was plenty for me.
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: ANGEL               
Subject: Thanks         
Date & Time: 03/26/90 16:10:35
Message Number  3060

     Incidently,  I have not heard of any complaints so I guess it was
fun by all.  Thanks again for stopping by.
                              * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Snakebyte      
Date & Time: 03/26/90 16:56:21
Message Number  3062

Aha! I do know who you are....you, my friend, are truely innovative.  
Yes, innovative, that is the word for today, Boys and Girls!  Ignore me,
I've been with a 5 month old baby all day....AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
This baby makes you want to use birth control!
      AN ANTI-BABY Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: !*!            
Date & Time: 03/26/90 16:58:51
Message Number  3063

:)  But that's why I'm taking AP Computer Science...because I hate 
Pascal.  You see, I have to suffer through another year of Pascal for 
Ap, but the real reason is because I want to learn something.  Yes, I 
said LEARN!  I want to have Percival for an instructor, too...I am his 
only female programming / AP student ever.  Strange, huh?  I wish more
of the female gender at P.V. would take programming...put you guys in
your place!! :)  Well, I'm exhausted...gotta get rest, have to see the
infamous As*hole tonight.  Ahhh, me-oh-my.  Ho-hum.  I'm outta' here....
         ......The Lady IN Black
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Snakebyte      
Date & Time: 03/26/90 17:35:11
Message Number  3064

 >...truely innovative.
 
  Thank you. And I thought I just had a short circuit in my brain. I 
need one of those posotronic deals like Data has on Star Trek
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: Personal?      
Date & Time: 03/26/90 19:08:56
Message Number  3065

Okay. Poor choice of words... yet, the folks who push the "my computer
is better than yours" campaign really don't give any thought to the
semantics of the thing, either. What they are actually saying with the
typical arguement is, "My machine is better [for me] than your machine."
 
That logic cannot be debated.
 
A VIC can load a cassette better than an Amiga 500, can it not?
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/26/90 19:13:22
Message Number  3066

Look at it this way. I don't know what the rules will say about teams
larger than two (I've always belonged to a two-person team in the past),
but you are welcome to ride along if it comes to that. For the moment,
I'm in need of a teammate. If it turns out that you are still willing,
and no one more familiar with the territory volunteers, I'll _still_
be willing to take you along for the mental exercise, and we'll
probably _still_ win the bloody thing!
 
(Have to put a little fear into them occasionally, ya know.)
 
{Acapulco}
 
_Does_ any one else wish to apply as my teammate?
 
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/26/90 19:18:53
Message Number  3067

When I looked at the computer market back then, contrary to popular
opinion, I couldn't find any software (and still can't) for CP/M. Also,
there were fewer people using computers back then, and MS-DOS was
already very popular when Atari and Commodore made their serious
computer pushes.
 
Also, as I recall, IBM was almost _instantly_ supported with the release
of their PC. Perhaps all the computer had going for it was marketing,
but in the US, that is all it takes, my friend.
 
Look at pet rocks. Did they serve any purpose?
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: IBM v TRS-80   
Date & Time: 03/26/90 19:22:31
Message Number  3068

I saw that contest in a Radio Shack Computer Center. The models were
the Model 4 and the Tandy 1000 (the original).
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: Snobs          
Date & Time: 03/26/90 19:24:34
Message Number  3069

Ohhhh... kick a man when he's down! You're lucky I don't know what
kind of car _you_ drive! :)
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: ANGEL               
Subject: Thanks         
Date & Time: 03/26/90 19:27:21
Message Number  3070

You were there?! Heck, you must have been the only one I haven't met
yet! I guess I shouldn't have left at 10:30, after all.
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: silence        
Date & Time: 03/26/90 21:12:17
Message Number  3071

From Barbara: So what's wrong with that, at least you get some peace 
              and quiet!
 
From Raven: So?  Sounds like every other evening over here. one sec, 
            beinsf tickled.
 
B & R: Somethings are best done in a quiet environment.
 
:) (: Have fun!
 
                   Raven & Hawke
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: kids           
Date & Time: 03/26/90 21:30:53
Message Number  3072

My greatest fear is that I will have a child, or rather that if I do
that he/she will follow in my footsteps!
                            Raven
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: NERISSA             
Subject: ?              
Date & Time: 03/26/90 22:31:06
Message Number  3073

Dear Nerissa,
To answer your questions in order:
  1. I am The Yngling.  Who are you?
  2. Older than I care to admit...only Snakebyte is older than I am...
     but he sheds his skin (which is kinda gross) so he looks younger.
                                     The Yngling
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From: YNGLING             
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/26/90 22:40:34
Message Number  3074

Dearest Lady-
  My heart sings!  Look my boyish grin is back! :) I'll even show you
my muscle. ;)
  I was truly sorry that I had to miss the festivities at Turtle's on
Saturday nite but my boss held a dinner party that same evening (lets
see...the furry party or a chance to eat food someone else is paying
for, drink whiskey - good stuff too - sopmeone else is paying for, and
kiss my boss' ass...personally I wouldve preferred the furry party but
I really had little choice).  I hope you werent /too/ disappointed. :)
  You had asked to borrow my "Box Full of Hell" a while back but we
never worked out the arrangements for delivery (or pickup).
                          The Yngling
P.S.  Did your dive partner disappear while you were diving?
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From: DONTHEN             
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: IBM's ?!?!?    
Date & Time: 03/26/90 23:44:40
Message Number  3075

All of the support IBM had for their computer originally was CP/M ports,
plain and simple.  If you couldn't find support for CP/M machines back
in 1982 you weren't looking very hard; I've seen CP/M software catalogs
from back then that were well over 400 pages.  Most of the major
business programs that are still either in use under the same name or
changed names (such as Multiplan into Excel, when they switched it to a
GUI) came from CP/M--WordStar, dBASE, Condor, Grammatik, Turbo Pascal,
Vedit Plus, up to the first microcomputer DTP packages back when they
were just called page formatters, such as TeX and Magic Series.  TBBS
and RBBS both started in CP/M.  Almost all the languages, ranging from
C and Pascal to Forth, Algol and even Ada, have CP/M incarnations.
There are multiuser versions of CP/M, and LAN operating software for
CP/M.  And, even now--when the operating system is supposed to have
been dead for years and years--there is /growing/ shareware support,
and a lot of those "big name" packages are still available, albeit
quietly.
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From: DONTHEN             
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: IBM v TRS-80   
Date & Time: 03/27/90 00:00:20
Message Number  3076

I've also seen benchmarks between a Model 4 and an Everex 286/16, and
there were a few I/O things where the 4 still came out ahead.  I'm not
as anti-IBM as Turtle is (admittedly, it'd be real hard to be any more
anti-IBM than Turtle is) but I have yet to see ANY "superiority" of the
IBM architecture over the 4's other than the obvious advantages of
having a 16-bit CPU in the 286/386 platforms... and I'm not really all
that impressed with the 4's architecture to begin with.
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Snakebyte      
Date & Time: 03/27/90 00:20:48
Message Number  3077

Short circuit?  Naaah!  I've met very few people in my life, short as it
may be, that have had actual shorts...my typing is lousy tonight.  You 
probably won't be able to tell though, but I keep correcting myself...
well, I've had enough! :)  'Night.
       The Lady In Black
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RAVEN               
Subject: silence        
Date & Time: 03/27/90 00:24:08
Message Number  3078

Dare I ask?  I guess my mind isn't here, or would I still not understand
your message?  I don't mean to be rude, but elaborate a little more, I'm
not all here in mind! :)
       The Lady
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RAVEN               
Subject: kids           
Date & Time: 03/27/90 00:25:40
Message Number  3079

Too scary!  You stole my line.  I promised the same.  I would hate to 
deal with someone that is equally as Bit*hy as I! :)  I like the way you
think, my friend...
                 .....The Childless Lady
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/27/90 00:27:48
Message Number  3080

My dive partner is afraid of me...he thinks I'm out to kill either 
myself or him!  But he disappeared after, to answer the question...
I did miss you Saturday night!  Damn your boss to a place that nearly 
resembles hell.  Anyway, if we can work out an arrangement I would still
like to borrow your books, or maybe I'll go get a copy.  Who knows!  I
don't... :)  Well, put your fists up...show me what you got!!! :)
        The Lady 
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From: TURTLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Economics & <> 
Date & Time: 03/27/90 01:00:39
Message Number  3082

>AN ANTI-BABY Lady
 
I recall reading somewhere that it costs about $100,000 to raise an
infant from birth to the time when he or she gets his/her first job
and starts generating income, adjusted for inflation, of course. Since
most families that have children have two of 'em, that's about $200,000.
Figure with that money you can raise a kid or sock it away for a
Ferrari F-40. Now, considering that the kid won't do zero to sixty
in about three seconds flat, well...
                       --A fast-driving Turtle
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From: ANGEL               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: School         
Date & Time: 03/27/90 01:31:56
Message Number  3085

How are you coming on those stories for school?  Will we ever get to
see "Armadillos in Bondage"?
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From: ANGEL               
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: Thanks         
Date & Time: 03/27/90 01:33:20
Message Number  3086

And to you Crystal, how is the how-to book coming?  I want the stage
rights when you finish it.
(I don't want to touch the record album rights.  That would be pulled
off the shelves faster than you can scream "CENSORSHI---------..
                                                               ...
                                                                  .
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From: ANGEL               
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Thanks         
Date & Time: 03/27/90 01:37:39
Message Number  3087

Yes, I was there at the FurryParty, but did not arrive until after
11:00.  I'm a night-owl.  Sorry we passed each other in the night.
Maybe next time.
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Economics & <> 
Date & Time: 03/27/90 10:19:58
Message Number  3090

Interesting way of looking at it. :)  I just really can't stand being
with any nany for more than say 2 hours straight.  I've decided that 
after yesterday, I will personally make everyone use birth control....
or leave them with this screaming baby for a couple of days!!! heheheheh
           .....The Childless Lady
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From: CRYSTAL             
To: ANGEL               
Subject: How-to         
Date & Time: 03/27/90 12:25:31
Message Number  3091

     Actually I have been considering holding classes first.  Then that
way I could have illustrations, examples, stuff like that.  Maybe even
a few quotes, you know like "Oh my, that really does work nicely." and
"The importance of a knott is...". Now woun't that be interesting.
Do you think that is a good idea?
                              * CRYSTAL *
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From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Economics & <> 
Date & Time: 03/27/90 16:18:15
Message Number  3092

>>...$100,000 to raise an infant...
 
  Well, golly jeepers, I think my parents have spent more than that 
already. Should I let up? Nahhhh....
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From: BEATLE              
To: ANGEL               
Subject: School         
Date & Time: 03/27/90 16:20:04
Message Number  3093

> Will we ever get to see "Armadillos in Bondage"?
 
  Well, when the Furry Tape ][ is put together, you can see an aardvark
in bondage...
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From: BEATLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: **disconnect** 
Date & Time: 03/27/90 16:29:47
Message Number  3094

  What happened to the Wyvern's Den? I call and get a disconnected 
message. This will get quite annoying having my four-board calling 
limited to two.
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From: ACAPULCO            
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Economics & <> 
Date & Time: 03/27/90 18:07:18
Message Number  3095

Anyone who says a kid won't do zero to sixty in three seconds hasn't
been around a child who was told not to touch something shortly before
turning one's back on said child...
 
{Acapulco}
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From: DONTHEN             
To: ALL                 
Subject: Wyvern's Den   
Date & Time: 03/27/90 18:29:15
Message Number  3096

The Wyvern's Den has been abruptly disconnected due to a profound lack
of GTE payment.  Luckily, my total bill ($170 spread over three months,
$53 of which is a mysterious installation fee that's been following me
around for seven months or so), in addition to the $18 reconnect fee, is
not only more than I have, it's more than I'm likely to get in the near
future now that my job at RightSoft has also come to an abrupt end.  So,
while I do plan to put the board back up, it is quite likely to be down
for several weeks.
    Please spread this message to other local BBS's!  I will still be
calling other boards (hopefully) from Turtle's but don't know how
often it will be possible.
    If anyone is working at a place that needs help, please let me know.
I have given up looking for jobs that require higher qualifications than
opposable thumbs, but I am still trying to avoid going back to a fast
food establishment unless there is no other alternative.
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From: RAVEN               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: silence        
Date & Time: 03/27/90 18:48:26
Message Number  3097

merely responnding to your post about getting the silent treatment from 
your boyfriend.  Barb disliked my comment about it sounding like here,
and attacked.  What clarification is needed?  Oh, never mind, I see that
you called shortly after midnight.  Or would such things matter to a
lady who goes by 'black magic' and 'The Lady in Black' Oh, well I am
rambling.  Perhaps should remember to call after sunset from now on.
 
    	            Raven
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From: RAVEN               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: kids           
Date & Time: 03/27/90 18:55:12
Message Number  3098

Hmm.  You did not seem bitchy at the party, but perhaps that is just
because I don't know you.  People think that I am an asshole until they 
get to know me, and then they _know_ I am, but seem to put up with me
anyway.  May all your sunsets be beautiful.
 
                   The Black Bird
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From: RAVEN               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Economics & <> 
Date & Time: 03/27/90 19:05:47
Message Number  3099

You left out the cost of the shrink that the kid would drive you to see,
and that the brat would probably put you in a 'retirement home' when
you reach 70 (I _hate_ institutional food).
 
          Raven
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From: RAVEN               
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: book?          
Date & Time: 03/27/90 19:12:29
Message Number  3100

This could be interesting!
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From: RUFUS               
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Personal?      
Date & Time: 03/27/90 19:30:55
Message Number  3101

A Vic also flies better than an Amiga.  The Amiga is to bulky to be used
as a projectile, but the Vic is perfect.
The Apple //c, now there is a machine designed to fly.
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From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: School         
Date & Time: 03/27/90 19:38:37
Message Number  3102

Eeek, don't remind me about that school project.  And it's "Aardvarks
in Bondage."  Aardvarks (a.k.a. ant-eaters) are cute and furry, and
have long tongues (popular with other aardvarks).  Armadillos have
hard shells (which isn't always bad), a rat-like tail (which isn't
always bad), and often get hit by cars or trucks (which /is/ very bad).
Anyways, the story will have to wait for some while, but one day, maybe,
you'll see it.
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From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: Thanks         
Date & Time: 03/27/90 19:41:51
Message Number  3103

I wouldn't even want the stage rights.  What with all these people
writing letters to the editor.
"Recently, my wife and I went to see [insert play here] at [insert
location here] and we were offended by the foul language..etc...blah...
blah..blahhh."
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RAVEN               
Subject: silence        
Date & Time: 03/27/90 19:59:00
Message Number  3104

:>  After sunset is when I'm at my best...:)  Barb needs to give in and
Bbs at the least!  The silent treatment ended...I repented.  He's such
an as*hole (excuse the language) I need to leave him..just can't do it.
 The Lady
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RAVEN               
Subject: kids           
Date & Time: 03/27/90 20:01:16
Message Number  3105

Hmm...I don't know you all that well, but I don't think of you as an 
asshole at all.  You're quite nice, actually.  Whoever said that anyway?
I'd like a word or two with them!  Thanks for the well-wish...hopefully
all my sunsets will be beautiful...and yours, too.
        The Lady
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From: YNGLING             
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/27/90 20:38:24
Message Number  3107

Dear Lady,
>put your fists up...
I wasnt challenging you to fistcuffs dear, I was offering to /show/ you
my muscle (this, along with my winning smile and boyish charm, often
causes young ladies to swoon)!
>show me what you got!!!
Here? Now? (*blush*)
  I see no reason for you to spend $ on the books when I am happy to
loan them to you.  However, if you dont /want/ to borrow them, I cant
stop you (if you /do/ want to borrow them - there /must/ be some way
for me to get them to you...perhaps a third party works somewhere &
I can drop them off to them?  Does Beatle work? He seems to see you on
a regular basis...or is it Rufus I'm thinking of? anyway...there has
to be a solution...).
                     The Yngling
P.S. I like your haircut.  Looks nice.
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From: YNGLING             
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: $$$            
Date & Time: 03/27/90 20:50:21
Message Number  3108

[Turtle, please pass this on to Donthen if he hasnt the opportunity to
read it]
Donthen,
   Since Ive had the pleasure of visiting the den regularly for about
a year now (except when my puter caught that nasty virus) I would like
to offer a donation of $20.00 (wish it could be more) towards that bill
if you want it.  Its the least I can do.  Just let me know where and to
whom I can drop off the $$$.
                             The Yngling
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From: YNGLING             
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: silence        
Date & Time: 03/27/90 20:56:56
Message Number  3109

>I need to leave him..just cant do it
   "Only where love and need are one
      and games are played for mortal stakes
    Is the deed ever really done
      for Heaven and the future's sake."
                           -Robert Frost
                     The Yngling
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From: BEATLE              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/27/90 21:25:36
Message Number  3110

>...or is it Rufus I'm thinking of?
 
  It should be Rufus you're thinking of. I've only met Black Magic at 
the Furry Party, and we didn't get a chance to talk.
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From: DONTHEN             
To: YNGLING             
Subject: $$$            
Date & Time: 03/27/90 22:25:41
Message Number  3111

Thank you for the offer.  While normally I refuse donations, I suppose
I'm beginning to get desperate.  However, I'm going to work on getting
some sort of job by the end of the week more permanent than Kelly
Services--if nothing else, a part time evening burger-flipping deal that
leaves my days open for the few times when Kelly comes up with something
for me.  If I can't get something quick, the BBS will probably be down
for an extended period of time, as I have a sneaky suspicion GTE will
require a security deposit from me before they reconnect things, and I'd
rather not take a donation until I'm sure the board will be back up in
some reasonable amount of time.  But, thanks again.
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/27/90 22:52:51
Message Number  3113

How did you know I got my hair cut?  Ahh!  You spooked me.  I see Rufus 
on a reg. basis.  Well, maybe I can meet you somewhere...I'd still like 
to borrow them if it isn't a problem.  If it would make it easier, and
you promise not to cut me up without asking first or something, I could 
leave you a voice # and we could decide how to do this.  About the 
charm...you'll have to prove it!  :)   Don't get me started...
           The Lady
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: YNGLING             
Subject: silence        
Date & Time: 03/27/90 22:56:21
Message Number  3114

You make me smile and hurt at the same time.  I guess that would make my
smile a wince...
     ...The Lady
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/27/90 22:58:43
Message Number  3115

Hmmm...I guess it would be hard for you not to have figured that out...
it took me a minute to figure out how you knew that, but I realized you
and I don't know eachother well...let alone see eachother on a regular
basis.  Boy am I dense at times.
:)
    The dense Lady
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From: ANGEL               
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: How-to classes 
Date & Time: 03/27/90 23:02:52
Message Number  3116

Classes are an excellent idea.  Field-testing of a new book is always
good thinking.  Of course, seminars are very popular now, and quite
profitable.  Then there are the videotapes to sell afterward...
This could be quite a money maker.
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From: ANGEL               
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Closed         
Date & Time: 03/27/90 23:13:06
Message Number  3117

So sorry to hear the Den in down.  I shall sorely miss my Ranea
connection.  If you should be taking funds to get it up and running,
please allow me to contribute.  You and the board have given me such
pleasure in the past year, I'd like to be able to return something to
you.
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From: ANGEL               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/27/90 23:15:49
Message Number  3118

Armadillos, anteaters, whatever.  They both look cute in bondage.
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From: RUFUS               
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/27/90 23:21:14
Message Number  3119

The Rufus sees her on a regular basis.  I don't work (I also have a
profound lack of money).
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From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: How-to classes 
Date & Time: 03/27/90 23:24:19
Message Number  3120

Don't forget specialization.  Target markets could be old people, people
without partners (a little difficult, but you folks are creative), etc..
etc.  Those Klutz books are popular right now.  You know, "Juggeling for
the Complete Klutz."
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toothbrushes   
Date & Time: 03/27/90 23:27:53
Message Number  3121

Turtle, you probably found a red translucent toothbrush laying on a 
"yellow-and-blue-makes-green" ziplock bag in your bathroom.  If you
haven't thrown it out, feel free to do so.  Or, if you wish, keep it
as your very own!  Clean out motherboards with it!  Since tbrush
was kinda mangled, I bought a new one.
 
P.S.-You gave me your damned cold/sore throat/stuffed head.  Thanks...
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/28/90 01:32:35
Message Number  3123

   Looks like it'll be May 5th (first Sat. in May). Sorry for the delay,
but it takes a while to get these things going right. More later.....
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: ViSuAlItY      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 01:35:41
Message Number  3124

Right behind me?  hmmmmmmm.....now that's something new.
(define 'serious trouble'......pleeeeeeeeeeease)
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 01:37:58
Message Number  3125

No excuse, just common sense. Being married and having offspring tends
to put a dent in one's outgoing social life. (don't stop this message
trading over it or I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND......well, I better not say
or you might stop writing). I wanted to go, and had 'da boss's' 
permission to go until this battle errupted weekend before at a pool 
party. Figured it wouldn't be a good time to take off to a 'social
party'....could of caused BIGGGGGGGGGG problems. This sordid affair is
quite safe (I think????) and quite pleasurable....except for when you
hurt me, but that's not soooooo bad either!!!! Called AR Sat. night,
hoping someone (you, perhaps) who CHAT with me, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
You all were probably up to you neck in jello by then.....
      (sorry but my typing has gone to sh*t tonight.....)
'slater...............sssssssssssssssnakebyte .   .
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: <***>          
Date & Time: 03/28/90 01:49:19
Message Number  3126

   Gynecologists aren't the only ones with stirrups, ya' know?!?!?!
\    /
  \/
  |
  |_________a forked tongued reptile....ssssssssssssssssssssss
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: FURR           
Date & Time: 03/28/90 01:56:37
Message Number  3127

I think the first time I walked (excuse me....stumbled) in after 1am,
I was 13 and the problems it caused made me book out of the house to
an apartment when I was 15. Kinda make ya' grow up REAL FAST!!!!
(too fast!). The first time I was out all night, my parents found out
in a real unique way.....they had to bail me out....funfunfun
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Sankebyte      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 02:00:01
Message Number  3128

> Subj: Sankbyte  ???????????
  If you must talk behind one's back, at least spell his handle
correctly. I think I've met BLACK MAGIC in our own personal way.
The Rally will be a blast....so make it!!!! But beware....I just
'socially' met a co-worker last week accidentally (myself and a few
buddies were doing 12 ounce curls), and now he calls me 'crazy man' at
work an trys to avoid me. Maybe someday I'll have some 'gathering' out
at my place, got an acre of land, a stocked lake out back, a killer
audio/video system, pool table (no pool yet...but soon)....oh well,
gotta go.......see ya'
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: CARRENTHEON         
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/28/90 02:07:52
Message Number  3129

Right now, it'll be (probably) between the airport and around Bee Ridge,
and from St. Armands to, hmmmmm...don't have a eastern limit yet (won't
be to 75, that I know). Keeping the area fairly small this time. If it
works out well, thinking about starting a Rally Club and expanding.
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: FURR           
Date & Time: 03/28/90 02:13:21
Message Number  3130

>Thpth! Pbbbbbbbbbbbth! PTHPTH!
  
   Smile when you say that.....damn it!!!
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From: RAVEN               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: silence        
Date & Time: 03/28/90 02:50:34
Message Number  3131

If GTE hadn't decided to kill the Den Barb. would have brought her
character into the system this week (handed her an update of the story
board yesterday).  But now who knows.  Crystal started using the board
within the last year, even thou she and turtle have been togeather for
how long now? (3+ years if I recall).  Who knows, your housemate may
end up getting hooked (it gives one time to get away from each other
without having to leave the house, and as we all need time to persue our
own interests, or at least be apart, it (bbsing) does seem to relieve
stress).  But who knows?
 
Have you seen Red October yet?  It is definately a must see film.
 
May all your sunrises be peaceful.
 
             Raven
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From: RAVEN               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: asshole        
Date & Time: 03/28/90 03:00:47
Message Number  3132

You've never been around me when I am on a major caffine kick.  I don't
like to be around me after 6+ cups of coffee, but unfortunately that is
about my average consumption if I end up at Perkins.  Probably should
switch to a different vice, but they don't have 'bottomless pots of hot
chocolate'.  Oh well.  Sleep well.
 
                 Raven
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From: TURTLE              
To: ANGEL               
Subject: School         
Date & Time: 03/28/90 04:25:58
Message Number  3136

>Will we ever get to see "Armadillos in Bondage"?
 
Not if there's a merciful God.
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From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Tapes          
Date & Time: 03/28/90 04:28:18
Message Number  3137

So tell me, how did TurtleCam /// come out? Enquiring minds want to
know.
                      --An enquiring Turtle
TurtleCam (tm) Anarchy Now, Inc.
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From: TURTLE              
To: ANGEL               
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/28/90 04:34:38
Message Number  3138

>They both look cute in bondage.
 
I think you're the first person I have ever heard refer to bondage as
"cute." There is a big list of adjectives I normally associate with
bondage, but blast if I can find "cute" on it anywhere. "Cute" makes
me think "Smurf," and frankly it's hard for me to juxtapose the
concept of "Smurf" with the concept of "bondage"...although I suppose
it might be possible...
                    --A doubtful Turtle
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From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: How-to classes 
Date & Time: 03/28/90 04:38:06
Message Number  3139

>Those Klutz books are popular right now.
 
Bad idea. An insufficiently coordinated person could hurt himself
quite nastily.
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From: CRYSTAL             
To: RAVEN               
Subject: book?          
Date & Time: 03/28/90 12:02:35
Message Number  3142

     And possiblely very helpful to you.
                              * CRYSTAL *
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From: CRYSTAL             
To: ANGEL               
Subject: How-to classes 
Date & Time: 03/28/90 12:08:07
Message Number  3143

     Angle, telling me things like this is a dangerous idea.  But it 
could be fun and profitable.  Kind of like high in fiber and good for
you too.
                              * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Toothbrushes   
Date & Time: 03/28/90 12:11:37
Message Number  3144

     I wondered who's that was.  If you would like I will keep it for
you for the next time you are over.  Then you will not have to keep 
bringing me toothbrushes.  I have put it all in a "yellow-and-green
makes blue" ziplock bag and put it in the bathroom for you.  So don't
worry it is safe and sound.
                              * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: $$$            
Date & Time: 03/28/90 14:43:57
Message Number  3145

Donthen-
  If you change your mind, the offer stands.  Good luck.
                                The Yngling
P.S.  I might be able to get you a job repossessing cars...its not a job
I'd recommend, but its night work and pays fairly well.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/28/90 14:47:24
Message Number  3146

Dear Lady,
>How did you know I got my hair cut?
I'm a trained investigator.
   As for the books, if you'd like to leave me a number we can arrange
a drop off (this is becoming /very/ LeCarre-ish dontcha think?) or if
you dont feel comfortable with that I'm sure Amelia @ Discount Computers
wouldnt mind if I dropped them there if you picked them up quick...all
she can say is "no."  
>Dont get me started...
Which button is the starter?
:)
                       The Yngling
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: life           
Date & Time: 03/28/90 14:57:27
Message Number  3147

"And there is a catskill eagle in some souls that can alike dive down
into the blackest gorges, and soar out of them again and become invis-
ible in the sunny places.  And even if he forever flies within the gorge
, that gorge is in the mountains; so that even in his lowest swoop the
mountain eagle is still higher than the other birds upon the plain, even
though they soar."
                - Herman Melville
                  "Moby Dick"
I prefer your smile.
                  The Yngling
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 15:05:58
Message Number  3148

Snakebyte,
   I'm beginning to wonder if we dont know each other from the World.
Are you by any chance a Bob Seger & T.S.B.B. fanatic?
                          The Yngling
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Tapes          
Date & Time: 03/28/90 16:37:21
Message Number  3149

  TurtleCam /// looks fine, and it's quite good. The only part I didn't 
like was when you slowed down to take the camera through the bookcase. 
  Tyler will be getting the tape edited this weekend and there should be
a finished Furry Tape ][ complete with Amiga-made titles and credits.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: bondage and <> 
Date & Time: 03/28/90 16:40:07
Message Number  3150

>...hard for me to juxtapose the concepy of "Smurf" with the concept of
> "bondage"...
 
  Yeah, I wouldn't (and probably couldn't) dwell on it. 
  "Smurfs in Bondage" coming soon... frightening...
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: ViSuAlItY      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 17:35:23
Message Number  3156

Hehehehe....you recieved fair warning.
      :>
        The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 17:36:41
Message Number  3157

Sordid affair huh?  No thanks to the marriage part...not now anyhow.  
I'll write more later...need to hurry...I'm supposed to be out to dinner
right now. :)
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: <***>          
Date & Time: 03/28/90 17:38:09
Message Number  3158

My style! :> (evil laugh) ...
         The Lady
===========

From: ACAPULCO            
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Wyvern's Den   
Date & Time: 03/28/90 18:00:08
Message Number  3159

Do you mind driving to Bradenton? Do you know anything about using 
dBASE III PLUS?
 
{Acapulco}
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: ACAPULCO            
Subject: Wyvern's Den   
Date & Time: 03/28/90 18:33:59
Message Number  3160

No, I don't mind driving to Bradeton.  I know a /little/ about using
dBASE, although it's not something that's come up in my life too often.
(Although I'm extremely willing to learn....)
===========

From: SHADOWSPAWN         
To: ANYONE              
Subject: adv help       
Date & Time: 03/28/90 19:32:29
Message Number  3161

've just returned from a looooong sea voyage and found all my friends 
gone. Evan my bbs, so im sitting here in the shadows wondering what to 
do. Anyone have a suggestion? 
Im allso in search of the answer to the adventur game The Pawn. Tell me 
how to win and I just mite not steal yourfavarite book this week.
        A honest Theif 
                  Shadowspawn
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: YNGLING             
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 20:11:05
Message Number  3163

"The World" is a hard concept to grasp. I saw Bob Seger last on
March 11, 1981 at Greensboro Coliseum in Greensboro, NC (about 18,500
in attendance). It was the last concert I went to before I moved down
here. 
    "All those same old cliche's, 'Is it a woman or a man',
       An' you always seem outnumbered, dare not take a stand."
		                            (Turn the Page)
  
If you have ever felt this, then in some way we DO know each other
from the REAL WORLD....and I am a Seger fanatic (also Lynyrd Skynyrd,
Little Feat, George Thorogood and the Destroyers and many more.....
really like good ol' Southern Rock 'n Roll (sometimes south Detroit)).
    
    sssssssssssssssSNAKEBYTE .   .
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: ViSuAlItY      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 20:28:15
Message Number  3164

Damn but fair warnings always seem to come across as invitations....
.....a ssssssssssshedding Snakebyte . /\ .
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 20:34:55
Message Number  3165

Wives, boyfriends, shall we let such things come between our terminal
attraction? I should think not. Postponing dinner to post.....hmmmmmm,
I'm impressed. You're cute when you're late........
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: <***>          
Date & Time: 03/28/90 20:39:07
Message Number  3166

I have been known to bite :> (evil hissssssssssssssssssss) ...
    in the grassssssssssssssSNAKEBYTE .   .
                                        |
                                       / \
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Wyvern's Den   
Date & Time: 03/28/90 20:46:17
Message Number  3167

Damn Donthen...I was just gettin' into the Den when I started getting
these voices from my modem....."disconnected" is such an ugly word.
Don't know what your qualifications are, but running a BBS I should hope
you have some interest in electronics. There is an opening for an
electrical assembler in Sarasota for a fair sized machine manufacturer.
If you call 359-4000 and ask for Human Resources Department, they can
probably give you the details. I just saw the posting.
     Hope it helps.......sssssssssssssssssSNAKEBYTE .   .
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: ALL                 
Subject: REMOTE CONTROL 
Date & Time: 03/28/90 20:50:59
Message Number  3168

Hey, I've been dialing Remote Control for a week now, it rings, gives
me a CONNECT 1200 message, then kicks me off. What gives? If Ken is out
there, fill us in ........thanx    ssssssssSNAKEBYTE .   .
===========

From: SHADOWSPAWN         
To: MR. ANDES D. MINT   
Subject: The Pawn       
Date & Time: 03/28/90 21:15:17
Message Number  3169

I had the same truble with my copy,I was useing a fast load cartridge,I 
removed it and it loaded just fine. Then it started  it again so i clean
d my disk drive and it loads fine again. What version do you have and 
what type of computor,Im useing a comador 128 in 64 mode. My pawn disk 
is for a 64. But the game is the same in all versions other than graphic
s. How far have you gotten in tthegame. I have made 200 points. But can'
t figure out how to  get past the dragon without carrying the adventurer
and if you carry the adventurer into Kronos's room he rewards you with 
death. Let me know were you are in the game and Ill help if I can. I wil
l get you a copy if you can use it but I have know Idia how to get it to
you. It wont trasfer over a Modem I've tried it befor.
            The silent thief
                     Shadowspawn
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RAVEN               
Subject: silence        
Date & Time: 03/28/90 21:55:55
Message Number  3170

Haven't seen Rad October...have to check it out!  Thanx, but I think 
I'll be safe and keep my significant other AWAY from computers all 
together! :)  That way I'm at least semi-happy with him...I like it when
I know something he doesn't.
        Keep smiling...Luv The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RAVEN               
Subject: asshole        
Date & Time: 03/28/90 21:58:17
Message Number  3171

:)  What do you mean sleep?  I logged off the board at I guess 1:00ish
with every intention of sleeping...but it didn't happen.  I think too
much to sleep soundly, so I gave up sleeping.  My mind wanders.
        The Sleepless Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/28/90 22:00:06
Message Number  3172

Sorry dear, cute doesn't do it for me.  The idea of bondage to most I 
know is roughness...not cuteness...cut won't cut it.  If you want cute 
you need grammar school sex...no need to explain, right?  :)  I hate it
when I get started...
                      ....The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/28/90 22:03:13
Message Number  3173

Cute, dear!  Still, who told you I got my haircut?  You spooked me on 
that one...I can leave you a number in e-mail if you wish...I trust you 
won't call me and ask me to describe what I'm wearing, doing, and so on,
right?  Hey don't knock it, a certain demon (I guess that's fitting) did
that to me for over a month.  The starter is hidden behind lock and key,
but it appears it's easier to get at than I thought! :)  Well, which way
would be easier for you...on the books that is...I don't mind either way
(I tend to think I'm fairly easy-going).  Ho-hum.
        The Happy Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: YNGLING             
Subject: life           
Date & Time: 03/28/90 22:07:33
Message Number  3174

You've never seen my smile.  Do I know you from somewhere, in all 
seriousness?  
          The confused Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: ViSuAlItY      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 22:10:48
Message Number  3175

Invitation?  I assure you, you'd know if it were...nevermind.
            The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/28/90 22:11:44
Message Number  3176

Yeah and I basically took a lot of shit for it, too.  "You f'in stand me
up lagain and I swear you'll regret it", nice, huh?  That's 
Bri when I piss him off.  Oh, well...I like it rough anyway...
       The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: <***>          
Date & Time: 03/28/90 22:13:37
Message Number  3177

Funny, I've been known to hit...HARD.  Don't start with me...I 
understand I have a look that can kill...personally I don't think so, 
but hey, who'm I?
     :>
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: REMOTE CONTROL 
Date & Time: 03/28/90 22:15:18
Message Number  3178

Funny, I get the same thing...try logging on at like, hmm...I think it's
300 baud.  Might help..
    
===========

From: CARRENTHEON         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/28/90 22:42:08
Message Number  3180

Ok guy.. keep me posted! Will drive ... 
Later!
Carrentheon 
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: Toothbrushes   
Date & Time: 03/28/90 23:14:48
Message Number  3182

Thanks much.  One or two parties back, I had to steal Bart's brand new
travel toothbrush.  If you happen to find any large sums of money around
those are also mine.  :)  I'll return Turtle's cold as soon as I get it
to leave my body.  I need an exorcist and some more sudafed.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/28/90 23:18:12
Message Number  3183

>Which button is the starter?
Actually, there are two buttons which you need to press to get her
started [new safety feature, seems the last model would start on its
own and wreak havoc on the townfolk].
You have to jab your index fingers into her sides about 2 inches under
her rib cage.  You know she's started when her torso stretches about
4-6 inches upwards.  Kinda funny.  She'll also let out a "Yeep....Damn
you [insert name here]."
 
 
I got a feeling I'll be in hot water after this...
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BEATLE              
Subject: bondage and <> 
Date & Time: 03/28/90 23:22:22
Message Number  3184

You people are kinda behind in the Smurf scene (this is not a bad 
thing).  "Bondage Smurf" has been around for some time now.
 
Zooga Booga Defooga Bebooga
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/28/90 23:27:03
Message Number  3185

Have we come full circle and ended up on Fruit Flies again??
(or am I just missing something here?)
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CARRENTHEON         
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/28/90 23:31:07
Message Number  3186

Everytime I see your name, I think of Ricardo Montabon (sp?) saying
"this new Chrysler has carrentheon leather."  Sorry, just had to get
that out.  Of course, when you see my name, you think of that guy in
Gasoline Alley.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: REMOTE CONTROL 
Date & Time: 03/28/90 23:55:47
Message Number  3188

 Ken is (or maybe was, by the time you read this) in Ohio. Also, his 
C= 128 went down. Before he left Saturday, he set up a /cheap/ BBS on 
the Amiga. I can't even get a connect. It will soon be attended to.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/28/90 23:58:02
Message Number  3189

  Giving up sleeping? I've tried. I've gone for stretches around 20
hours, but I just get so damn tired! I can't keep my eyes open. Even 
putting my favorite movies on the VCR won't help. I usually stay up 'til
2 or so when I have a chance...
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: Wyvern's Den   
Date & Time: 03/29/90 00:11:29
Message Number  3190

Well, this is possible.  I have an interview with a computer dealer
tomorrow (Mike Talbert, ex-sysop of the Rendezvous) about a possible
job; if that doesn't look promising, then I'll see what the assembly
thing is about.  Thanks for the lead...
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: RUFUS               
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/29/90 00:14:18
Message Number  3191

That's "Corinthian Leather."
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 00:45:51
Message Number  3193

Prepare to die!  You're not supposed to discuss my jumpiness....but that
may have to do with the fact (the jumpy part) that you come up behind me
when I'm off in space and scare the crap out of me and ticle me at the 
same time...in case you hadn't figured, I'm tickleish...(my spelling 
sucks tonight, too).  But you aren't supposed to tell anyone!
"Damn it, TODD"!!!!!
        T.S.
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 00:48:52
Message Number  3194

You are long gone...worse than I, my friend.  Though I'm not hard to 
beat....
       The lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 00:50:13
Message Number  3195

My,my...when I think I can actually sleep and I get in bed I find I'm 
wide awake.  I must be an insomniac.  Oh, well...no great loss.  Sleep 
is a waste of time anyway...it's just that I run out of things to do by
about 4:00 in the morning.  I find myself admiring Dbase programming at 
times...or even worse LOGO!  AHHHHH!  Sometimes, like now, I just talk 
to myself and type at the same time....
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: bondage and <> 
Date & Time: 03/29/90 01:55:25
Message Number  3196

>"Bondage Smurf" has been around for some time now.
 
 Really, that's gotta be quite scary. He/She's not cute, right? 
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 01:59:07
Message Number  3197

> You are long gone...worse than I... Though I'm not hard to beat....
 
  True, you were voted the most normal at the Furry Party. During the 
Trek to Super America... it's been captured on tape... Everyone will see
it someday...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 02:01:17
Message Number  3198

>...just talk to myself and type at the same time....
 
  Hey, get one of those speech synthesizing programs. I have "Sam" for 
the C=64 and it's quite interesting to play around trying to make it 
sound like a real person...
  By the way, what do you do until 4 AM? I must be quite odd. I have 
over 200 movies and over 100 video games plus every album the Beatles 
ever recored and a overflowing collection of Star Trek/Wars. I STILL get
bored!! I need to get a SOCIAL life... it's quite good to get out to the
Furry Parties and related stuff...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: The Wall       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 02:06:06
Message Number  3199

  Remember I suggested a while back that you could get a copy of "The
Wall" for less than $20? Well, I just came across a deal you can't 
resist. On page 14 of "Get the Picture", the Record Town video magazine,
MGM/UA has an ad for 11 tapes, one of them being "The Wall". The ad
says:
 "PINK FLOYD--THE WALL $00.00"
  I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. I will show anyone if they don't believe me...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 05:28:42
Message Number  3201

>The idea of bondage to most I know is roughness...not cuteness...
 
Hmm. Don't know if I follow that one, actually; if yo let that sort
of thing get out of hand you can quickly end up in some really touchy
areas. Past a certain point, the bondage has ceased to be a simply
enjoyable activity and become a tool for dominance in other (non-sexual)
areas of the relationship, and that type of thing is poison to a
healthy relationship. If you get the point where what goes on in the
bedroom starts determining what goes on outside the bedroom, look out...
                     --A rational Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Toothbrushes   
Date & Time: 03/29/90 05:37:34
Message Number  3202

>I'll return Turtle's cold as soon as I get it to leave my body.
 
No; go ahead and keep it. Really. I wasn't sure what I was going to
do with it anyway, and you look like the sort of person who could
always use an extra one or two. Add it to your collection, hang it
on the wall, or donate it to charity. 
                  --A charitable Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Logo & <>      
Date & Time: 03/29/90 05:40:49
Message Number  3203

>I find myself admiring Dbase programming at times...or even worse
>LOGO!
 
Full LOGO (which, by the way, you rarely see outside of mainframe
implementations) is actually a fairly impressive language. It's a
procedural list-processing language (kinda like RLisp on drugs), only
with silly graphics commands. LOGO has all sorts of built-in primitives
for fairly sophisticated string, list, and mathematic functions,
and even defines its own operating environment, kind of like Forth does.
Plus it's got turtles, and anything with turtles has to be worth
/something/...
                   --A list-processing Turtle
===========

From: JONBOY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Atari-Hyperspce
Date & Time: 03/29/90 07:16:46
Message Number  3204

Not to mention expensive as faor the fonts.  Also - HP laserJets seem 
to be rather cavalier at times as to whether they will pay attention
to the command (escape) sequences that you send it...
9
             --==>*JonBoy*<==--
            _  /|
            `'o O'
           =(_v_)=
            / U
          Ack! Phhhhttt!!!
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 08:58:52
Message Number  3206

Wonderful!  I hate videos that have pictures of me...actually I hate ALL
pictures of me...no, I hate ME!  Oh Ghod, why'd you get me going? :>
      The Lady
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 09:00:21
Message Number  3207

I have a social life, but I hate it...usually I lay in bed if I'm not 
on the board...talk on the phone (voice)...watch my boyfriend sleep (hey
don't knock it, his eyes roll around and he sighs like a baby)...listen
to Pink Floyd, The Smiths, Sex Pistols, Violent Femmes, The Cure, Cat
Stevens (though he's turned Arab...not that I have anything against Arab
people), and other misc. music...
Aren't you sorry you asked? :>
  
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 09:04:06
Message Number  3208

Thanks, why didn't you say so sooner...
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: ROAD RALLY     
Date & Time: 03/29/90 09:16:33
Message Number  3210

>That's "Corinthian Leather."
Whoops...
BTW, just what makes leather "Corinthian?"  A special ritual before they
kill the animal it was on?
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 09:17:51
Message Number  3211

>Prepare to die!
How friendly of you.
>I'm tickleish...
So am I, I'm very very very tickleish (my spelling is bad all the time).
Some people have learned to point their fingers at me just right and I
break out into fits of laughter.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 09:20:37
Message Number  3212

>Though I'm not hard to beat....
I'd say something lewd here, but you'd probably gouge my eyes out on
Monday (that is, if you haven't already planned to).
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 09:22:25
Message Number  3213

I hate it when I'm to tired to go to bed.  Anyone else have this 
problem?
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Toothbrushes   
Date & Time: 03/29/90 09:26:07
Message Number  3214

>No; go ahead and keep it.
 
I couldn't do that.  You let me sleep on your floor, look in your
attic, eat your food, drink your Mountain Dew.  I insist on returning it
ASAP.
 
If we could find a third party to take it off our hands?  One fox
springs to mind...
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 09:28:47
Message Number  3215

>Though he's turned Arab...not that I have anything against Arab people
O.K.  Put 'em up, let's fight.  RPGs at 20 paces. Grrrrrr.........
 
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 12:25:18
Message Number  3216

> ...no, I hate ME!
 
  Jeez, and I thought I was bad when I felt like complete crap... Is it
just some kind of strange thing in humans that we come into phases where
we hate ourselves? I wonder if Turtle ever hates himself, being a
turtle, you know....
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 12:28:15
Message Number  3217

> Aren't you sorry you asked?
  
 I dunnoGive me a chance to think about it...
 I usually can find something to do late nights. The most boring time 
comes after Letterman...
===========

From: SHADOWSPAWN         
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 14:32:12
Message Number  3218

Hi 
I had to make a coment on your coment that sleeping is a wast of time. I
normaly have a great time when Im asleep. In my dreams there is no limit
to what I can do. And I have one hell of a imagination. Like last night 
I ran into you at the Vulgar Unicorn,But when I tried to see what you lo
oked like you disappeared. You must have cast a spell on me. Well its ba
ke to the maze for me now...
               Shadowspawn
===========

From: SHADOWSPAWN         
To: ALL                 
Subject: time for love  
Date & Time: 03/29/90 15:11:34
Message Number  3219

I'm looking for a Hard bake copey of Time Enough for Love by Robert Hien
lein anyone out there with a copy that they are willing to sell drop me 
a line. I need a new one mson ate my copy.
          A book collecting Thief
                        Shadowspawn
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From: YNGLING             
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/29/90 15:35:57
Message Number  3220

Well, youre not who I thought you might be ( a good friend who suddenly
dropped off the face of the planet - he introduced me to bbs'ing and
much of what you said in other posts sounded like stuff he'd say so I
thought you might be him... ).
                               The Yngling
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From: YNGLING             
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: clarity        
Date & Time: 03/29/90 15:43:09
Message Number  3221

Dear Lady,
>You've never seen my smile.
No, but I've felt its effects.
>Do I know you from somewhere
I honestly dont know.  Who are you?
>in all seriousness
Now you ask too much!
>The confused Lady
T'was never my intention to confuse you milady.  If you think about it
/real/ hard you should be able to figure out how I know what I know.
                                  The Yngling :)
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Gee.....       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 17:54:46
Message Number  3223

I used to be like that...at times, when I try to be serious, and someone
touches me, i can't help but go into hysterics!
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 17:55:45
Message Number  3224

Sorry, Love, I lack the male anatomy parts necessary.
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 17:56:29
Message Number  3225

ME...ME....ME....I'm always up, you can call me voice and we can make
eachother bored out of our minds.
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From: ACAPULCO            
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Wyvern's Den   
Date & Time: 03/29/90 19:47:46
Message Number  3226

There is a convalescent center up here that has advertised for data
entry help, and was looking for someone with dBASE experience. I've
asked, and programming ISN'T what they want (I often contact these
ads and talk to them about hiring a consultant, instead).
 
The place is called Mediplex Rehab. Call them at 753-8941.
 
It will NOT help to drop my name (this time), since they don't know
me from anyone else who called them. Good luck.
 
{Acapulco}
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From: ACAPULCO            
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: lists....      
Date & Time: 03/29/90 19:52:12
Message Number  3227

I saw Seger in Orlando a few years back. It was a memorable concert
in that my then wife decided to join me there at the last minute...
the show wasn't sold out... she bought tickets after the show started...
walked in and right to me (and this was general admission... I could
have been anywhere!).
 
It's a shame we didn't think alike more often.
 
{Acapulco}
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From: ACAPULCO            
To: BEATLE              
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 19:59:34
Message Number  3228

Lord, I can imagine how _my_ reputation was tarnished by that tape!
 
{Acapulco}
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From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 20:25:19
Message Number  3229

>Sorry, Love, I lack the male anatomy parts necessary.
No, I was thinking of something else.  I'm not /that/ lewd and vulgar.
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From: RUFUS               
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 20:26:33
Message Number  3230

Errrrrrrrr....O.K.  of course, this doesn't happen on school nights, 
since I force myself to go to bed, otherwise I nod off in Trig. class.
I often lay in bed thinking "I could take off my shoes, brush my teeth,
clear all this crap off the bed and sleep nice and comfy like, or I coul
[d] wait until I doze off and wake up with sore muscles all over the
place."
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From: JONBOY              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Box of Hell    
Date & Time: 03/29/90 20:36:54
Message Number  3232

Sorry to interrupt - I saw the stuff at a really weird place - the 
K-Mart on Cortez & 41!!!!  They have Akbar & Jeff too... just thought
Lady might like to know...
 
--==>* JonBoy *<==--
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From: JONBOY              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: CP/M           
Date & Time: 03/29/90 20:38:52
Message Number  3233

I have *** Tons *** of CP/M stuff - anymore need to be said?  Several
compilers for - C, Pascal, Forth, Ada, BASIC, FORTRAN, LISP, COBOL 
(yechhhh!)  and a few "experimental" languages from the CPMUG.
 
--==>* JonBoy *<==--
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From: JONBOY              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Shorts         
Date & Time: 03/29/90 20:41:44
Message Number  3234

I have some actual shorts! Jockey is their name but boxing's not the
game...
 
--==>* JonBoy *<==--
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From: JONBOY              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Job            
Date & Time: 03/29/90 20:46:53
Message Number  3235

Send me a message spelling out qualifications (barkeep?) if any 
noteworthy specialties apply - I know my company (Hi-Stat or Hurricane
Sports) is/was hiring - maybe we can find a crack to slip you into...
 
      --==>* JonBoy *<==--
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From: JONBOY              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Leaving        
Date & Time: 03/29/90 20:51:27
Message Number  3236

Now there's a good reason ("just can't do it...").  Methinks MyLady
needs to take a respite from the world - perchance to sit on a beach
at dusk and watch the horizon sink placidly into the sea. I find that
the proper setting helps to get the ol' brain cogitating on the issues
that are hard to face in our lives.  I was married for three years 
longer than necessary because it was easier to face the known pain of
a shitty relationship than the "cold world" by myself - not to mention
I was such a nice person that I didn't want to inflict any emotional
distress on my mate.  Trust me - ain't nobody worth your own peace of
mind - -- sorry to get philly-sophmorical on ya...
 
      --==>* JonBoy *<==--
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From: JONBOY              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 21:17:43
Message Number  3237

Hey no problem - I can relate.  I believe that's how the concept of
recursive procedures came about.. at 4 am you just stare and stare and
after awhile you realize your in this little loop and there are funny
people from Kansas whirling about with you - I dunno about admiring
Dbase that's kinda scary...
 
     --==>* JonBoy *<==--
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From: JONBOY              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 21:20:47
Message Number  3238

Speech synthesis huh?  Haven't seen one yet that could do a convincing
"Quack!"  Try spelling it like kwick and it gets close - I have programs
for all my computers and none of them can quack - whatta loss!  Lessee
there's always the famous - "let's finally put the last three years of
my bank account into the newest whiz bang-bootleg checkbook program
(guaranteed to earn the contempt of Real Computer Nerds everywhere!)
and the (this is the best part ) try and balance the damned thing!
(brought to you live from Dr Early Morning Demento....)
 
    --==>* JonBoy *<==--
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From: JONBOY              
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 21:27:54
Message Number  3239

Have you thought about torturing him?  Get some of thos really Awful
fake ostrich feathers - get a tiny wisp and place it where it will
tickle - this is good for hours of pleasure as they squirm and squirm
.  Hey and don't forget Pure Science!  This could be a great time to
experiment along the lines of subliminal suggestion....
 
            A Midnite Helpful JonBoy
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From: ANGEL               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 21:50:16
Message Number  3240

Bondage can be real cute if you use the happy face bandages.
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From: ANGEL               
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: How-to classes 
Date & Time: 03/29/90 21:51:22
Message Number  3241

Sorry about those dangerous ideas, it's the Republican side of my
nature.  If there's a way to find fun and profit in kink, I'll think
of it.
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From: ANGEL               
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Mythagoras     
Date & Time: 03/29/90 22:27:28
Message Number  3243

Showing around my copy of 'Mythagoras', I have three people eager to
get hands on a copy (cash in hand).  How can I get some more, got any
in your stock (with complimentary plastic wrappers) or should I go
to Time Machine?
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 22:58:23
Message Number  3245

Yes, but I bet I'm stronger than thou...I'm also a smartass, huh?!
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 22:59:13
Message Number  3246

Naah.  One can always tell when I'm depressed, I guess, I always hate 
myself...but believe me, I do it with good cause.  What do you have 
against turtles?  I have one as a pet for over 10 years, watch it, bud!
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: BEATLE              
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 23:01:00
Message Number  3247

AAAAAAHHHHH!  I'm a Letterman fan, too.  When I was in Ny I saw the show
live...totally cool (to use an overrated expression).
     The Lady
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SHADOWSPAWN         
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 23:02:17
Message Number  3248

I try to use my black magic only on those who do evil, so if I cast a 
spell...must you be evil?  Rather, might you be evil??  Hmmm...I don't
recall having met you before, therefore, it's highly unlikely you should
know what I look like...trust me, you aren't missing much.  Pleasant 
dreams, my fellow....perhaps we shall meet tonight...
         The Lady In Black (Black Magic)
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: YNGLING             
Subject: clarity        
Date & Time: 03/29/90 23:05:50
Message Number  3249

M'love, I try and try not to think, for after all it's what keeps me 
lying awake in bed after dark and even at dusk...please, don't ask me
to think any more than one should have to. :)  If what you say is true, 
that you've felt my smile, then shall I be flattered, and a smile be 
upon my face, it's become an unstoppable thing...though I can never make
one appear when asked.  Ah, well, I've a happy disposition I guess...so
long as one doesn't do malice, for then I've a temper that rages, and
some say I've a look that kills (Rob for one)...too bad I can't make it 
work on some! :) 
     I think I've gone over the deep end this time!
             The Long-Gone Lady
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: critters       
Date & Time: 03/29/90 23:13:13
Message Number  3250

I just wrote a reply but aborted it accidentally....I said: 
   "If not that, then what?  I guess my mind doesn't serve any purpose, 
but no one's perfect".
       T
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: sleeping and ><
Date & Time: 03/29/90 23:14:53
Message Number  3251

When I lay in bed awake, it's because my head is full of "nonsense".  I
can't help it, it just gets there and I can't get it out...I've even 
thought about what Pine View will be like in 100 years...now that's  a 
worthwhile thought.  NOT!
       Lady
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