

#: 14227 S1/General Interest
    08-Feb-92  17:27:19
Sb: #DISTO Products
Fm: GRANT C. MCGREGOR 72237,744
To: All

Does anyone know if CRC in Montreal is still manufacturing DISTO products?  If
so, could someone provide me with their address?
After a few years of ignoring my COCO III I dug it all out and decided to
re-learn OS-9 - mostly to get some enjoyable relief from my normal Mess DOS
activities.  I would like to use the COCO for telecom so I need the serial port
adapter for my Super Controller II.

Thanks,

Grant McGregor 

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#: 14229 S1/General Interest
    08-Feb-92  19:25:20
Sb: #14227-DISTO Products
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: GRANT C. MCGREGOR 72237,744 (X)

Disto stopped production last year.  But you're not out of luck because you
don't need to get that serial adapter.  Just get a RS-232 pak and a Slot Pak
III multipak equivalent.  Both are available from CoCoPRO!.  You can contact
them by modem at 313 292 4713.  You can also ask them about a used Disto
adapter if you want to.  A fully assembled RS-232 pak will cost $45 and the
Slot Pak $90.  Your SC-II will work fine in the Slot Pak. Put it in Slot B, the
RS-232 pak in Slot X, and you will have Slot A free for something else.

#: 14228 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Feb-92  18:33:31
Sb: #14220-#Mshell Discount?
Fm: John Semler 70324,633
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

An ANSI compatible C Compiler would be nicer!  Is Microware the only vendor of
C Compilers for the 68000 market?

John Semler

There are 2 Replies.

#: 14232 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Feb-92  21:39:42
Sb: #14228-#Mshell Discount?
Fm: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611
To: John Semler 70324,633 (X)

I've only heard of the Gnu C compiler for as an alternative for OSK, but have
never used it and would sure appreciate any comments on it.

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#: 14246 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  19:16:15
Sb: #14232-Mshell Discount?
Fm: John Semler 70324,633
To: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 (X)

Never used Gnu C for OSK but do have a political comment!

I believe a bad aspect of distributing major piece of software like Gnu C for
free is it stifles the market place.  May be good for the home computer users
but perhaps the commercial users will suffer because of FSF (lack of support,
outdated technology, and etc).

#: 14369 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    17-Feb-92  20:43:51
Sb: #14232-#Mshell Discount?
Fm: John Semler 70324,633
To: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 (X)

I downloaded both gpp (C++ compiler) and gcc (ANSI C) from Delphi and I can say
that I am very impressed!  Although I only had these compilers for the last 48
hours, I believe I will be using them from now on.  Also gcc appears to
generate tighter code than Microware C (Don't forget to throw on the optimizer
using the -O option!).

Installing gpp was a little troublesome.  The routine perror() and _flsbuf()
were missing from the C++ library.  Also renamed libgpp.l to gpp.l (gpp.l looks
like a subset of libgpp.l). Currently employing the gpp C++ compiler to
implement computer science concepts encountered in my studies this semester! 
I'll leave a message on Delphi explaining the quirks that I have found so far.

Someone should upload a copy to CIS.  These are great compilers as far as I can
see.

John Semler

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#: 14378 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    18-Feb-92  13:19:29
Sb: #14369-Mshell Discount?
Fm: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611
To: John Semler 70324,633 (X)

For folks with Internet ftp access, the hermit.cs.wisc.edu machine has the OSK
Gnu C compiler also.

#: 14261 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  09:55:36
Sb: #14228-#Mshell Discount?
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: John Semler 70324,633 (X)

Up on Delphi, there is a C Compiler called the GCC Compiler.

I've only used it a couple of times, but, according to the extensive help file
included in the command, it supports the ANSI standard, including trigraphs,
and has many features the stock MW C Compiler does not have.

The modules, compressed, are about 650,000 bytes -- the largest module being
over 425,000 bytes long.

jim Sutemeier

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#: 14310 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  22:27:30
Sb: #14261-#Mshell Discount?
Fm: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611
To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)

Yes, it's my understanding that GCC is in fact the Gnu C Compiler. Was
installation a big deal for GCC or not?

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#: 14313 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    13-Feb-92  09:56:38
Sb: #14310-Mshell Discount?
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 (X)

>Was installation a big deal for GCC or not?

Had no problem installing it, and it's fairly easy to use.  Wish the dox file
that came with it had the help screen in it, though.

The dox are lacking in what-all this compiler can do, and the only true help is
the '-?'.

jim Sutemeier

#: 14327 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  17:50:33
Sb: #14261-#Mshell Discount?
Fm: John Semler 70324,633
To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X)

The GCC compiler deal sounds good!  How do I log on to Delphi?

There is 1 Reply.

#: 14335 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    15-Feb-92  14:34:14
Sb: #14327-Mshell Discount?
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: John Semler 70324,633 (X)

Delphi--> call voice 1-800-695-4005......



#: 14231 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Feb-92  20:14:29
Sb: #14224-Mshell Discount?
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Bill -

Lint is really a compiler superset, and is VERY picky. If you had to live with
a compiler as nasty as Lint all the time, you'd go nuts.

Pete

#: 14236 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Feb-92  23:00:47
Sb: #14224-Mshell Discount?
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

The claim made by the folks who originally did lint was that the compiler
shouldn't bother to tell you about questionable constructs, but should do what
it's told and generate code for it even if it looks like a construct that may
be bogus (semantically bogus, e.g. use a variable that may not have been set).

OTOH, these days people expect compilers to do the kind of flow analysis lint
does, though for other reasons, and ANSI prototypes allow some of the error
checking that lint did, so there's less of an argument for a separate lint
program.

#: 14230 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Feb-92  19:36:15
Sb: #14226-#MM/1's and Printers v2.3
Fm: Ken Gideon 72270,664
To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X)

welp, did some more playing, the epson works fine on my cocoIII, got the xmode
param's from the coco, and copyed them onto the mm/1. still no go... welp then
I took the DMP110 from my coco and stuck it on the MM/1... used both sc68230
drivers (one at a time :-) and the dmp110 wouldn't print... so just witch
printers do work with the MM/1???? bye Ken.



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#: 14241 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  11:01:55
Sb: #14230-MM/1's and Printers v2.3
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X)

Ken,

I'm having no problems with my Okidata 82a. Works like a champ.

Steve

#: 14247 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  21:27:50
Sb: #14230-MM/1's and Printers v2.3
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X)

        I'm using a DMP-430 with a long (10 or 12 ft) cable on my MM/1 - no
problems.  Maybe the following will help -

[xmode /p]


noupc nobsb bsl noecho lf null=0 nopause pag=66 bsp=08 del=18 eor=0D eof=1B
reprint=04 dup=01 psc=17 abort=03 quit=05 bse=08 bell=07 type=00 baud=50 xon=11
xoff=13 tabc=09 tabs=4


[ident -qm scp68230] scp68230         owner    0.2     edition #5    good crc -
E9A859


[ident -qm p] p                owner    0.2     edition #5    good crc - 60BAFC


JohnW




#: 14277 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  06:19:18
Sb: #14226-#MM/1's and Printers v2.3
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X)

Ken,

If you are getting garbage to the printer, it is possible that the printer port
is bad or the little cable from the port to the DB-25 connector is bad. Either
one is not easy to test for.  About the only solution I can think of is to send
the I/O board and the cables to me and I'll check it out.  If you can find a
person close by with an MM/1 and a printer that works, it would help eliminate
some things.

Mark

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#: 14287 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  21:11:01
Sb: #14277-#MM/1's and Printers v2.3
Fm: Ken Gideon 72270,664
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

NO!!! I just got my I/O board! Im not just gonna give it up! its mine ! I
waited long enough for it! you cant have it!

but for what its worth, I got it to print... I swapped the p & p1
cable/connecter things.... and put jumpers on P5 (I think) the one for LF's
(does that turn LF's off or on? it doesn't say in the docs)...and I started
using the 3meg_init.... I dont know (or care) witch of those 3 things did the
trick... but hey it works fine now...

also, anybody know the $hex value of ESC?

thanx for all the help everybody was...

---me

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#: 14293 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  01:13:46
Sb: #14287-MM/1's and Printers v2.3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X)


ESC is Hex 1b decimal 27.



#: 14300 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  08:54:52
Sb: #14287-MM/1's and Printers v2.3
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X)

Ken -

ESC = $1b

Pete

#: 14234 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Feb-92  22:35:02
Sb: #13973-#Ultra-Science Windows
Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

 I have been working on 'screens' from TOP without much luck.  Do you know
someone who
 is running it on a tc70? I also want to get KD Windows but I understand Frank
Hogg still needs to talk to you. Just got my tomcat a couple of weeks ago and I
have had alot of trouble
 getting started.  The docs are more reference not step by step tutorial.



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#: 14262 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  10:05:31
Sb: #14234-Ultra-Science Windows
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143

I tried to get screens to work on my TC70 with no luck whatsoever. (???)

If you have any luck, please let me know what you did to get it working.

On another note, are you using the stock uq37c65, or did you switch over to the
beta version??

jim Sutemeier

#: 14235 S7/Telecommunications
    08-Feb-92  22:44:42
Sb: #14128-#Fax Software
Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X)

I sure would be interested in a fax on the tc70.  I could fax the price quotes
I compute on the tc70 and never have to print out and dial,
 feed the fax machine etc. Could save a lot of time.

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#: 14245 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Feb-92  15:23:36
Sb: #14235-Fax Software
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143

Bruce, I think you meant to REPLY to Kevin Darling.

But I agree, having FAX support directly from your computer would be great.

Getting signatures affixed onto documents that required one might still be a
bit of a problem, but not insurmountable..

Lee




#: 14237 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Feb-92  01:32:20
Sb: STERM
Fm: MARK LITTLE 70761,3147
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)

Thanks for the help. I had tried /t2 and also /t1 and /m1 to no avail. Mark.

#: 14238 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  06:55:16
Sb: #14219-MM/1 I/O Board
Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

James,

     I may have to call Midwest and order one of those keyboards. One of the
reasons I like the Northgate keyboard is because of the ability to remap the
keys. I have a CTRL key left of the "A" key and like it that way. I use
Dynastar both on the CoCo and MM/1 and having the CTRL key there is very
convenient.

Ernie.



#: 14248 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  21:41:53
Sb: #14219-#MM/1 I/O Board
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

Speaking of ctrl-key placement! Just who was the idiot who decided that the
ctrl key belonged at the bottom of the keyboard. As if we need to hit caps-lock
a lot....

Is someone collecting a list of keyboards which do and don't work with the
mm/1. Hmmm, I wonder why some don't!

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#: 14256 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  06:56:10
Sb: #14248-MM/1 I/O Board
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

My guess is that the idiot was someone who wanted a keyboard to look as much
like a Selectric typewriter as possible.

#: 14258 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  08:03:53
Sb: #14248-MM/1 I/O Board
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

I'm keeping track Bob. Seems that Northgate and Focus make boards that are not
compatable with the MM/1. Mark theroizes something to do with timimg.

I've seen a fix for the Northgate posted somewhere with less than stelllar
results reported . Can't say about the focus. It's been sent back and a Chicony
purchased in place.

Steve

#: 14240 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  10:58:32
Sb: #14218-#MM/1 formatting
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 (X)

Ernie,

Could you post the complete dmode output for your descriptor? I'm using the new
drivers without any problems and would like to compare.

Steve

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#: 14265 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  18:11:31
Sb: #14240-#MM/1 formatting
Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Steve, 
    Here's the dmode of /d1. I've tried it with rates=$30 but still get error
247 unless sct and t0s=31.

  name=d1
 drv=1 stp=3 typ=$21 dns=$03 cyl=80 sid=2 vfy=0 (on) sct=33 t0s=33
 sas=8 ilv=2 tfm=0 toffs=0 soffs=0 ssize=256 cntl=$0000 trys=7 lun=0
 wpc=0 rwr=0 park=0 lsnoffs=0 totcyls=80 ctrlrid=0 rates=$00
 scsiopt=$0000 maxcount=65535

    Am I missing something obvious? This boot will read msdos diskettes using
the /hpc1 descriptor by the way.

    I'm using modules from the update Mark uploaded. Any help will be much
appreciated.

Ernie.


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#: 14268 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  21:17:35
Sb: #14265-#MM/1 formatting
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 (X)

Ernie,

I see by a later message, you're all fixed up.

Steve

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#: 14286 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  20:31:51
Sb: #14268-MM/1 formatting
Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Yes. I think I've got everything working now. Haven't had time to try
everything out yet though.

Thanks.

Ernie.



#: 14249 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  21:42:11
Sb: #14223-#Select
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Yeah, I forgot all about the lockout problem. Haven't tried it with a
non-interactive window. And if you switch windows to hit enter so that the
block goes away, well it defeats the purpose of the command <grin>.

Does the same thing happen when you do "(winsel;myprog)<>>>/w"? Since a shell
is being forked to handle the stuff in the line, I guess things are blocked
here too? It would be nice to have an elegant way to handle this. Hmmm, what
about having a prog. open a path to /w, select the new window and then start a 
shell there with "myprog" as a parm? Might be a lot of shells being forked, but
it should work. I just have to write a "open new window, select it and run a
program in it" program. Opps, not that simple. I'd have to close stdin, etc.
first so that the new program can use it's own paths.

Hmmm, and then there is still the problem of returning to the original
screen--esp. if the paths have been closed. Oh, guess they could be duped to
higher numbers... will give this some thought, play and let you know.

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#: 14252 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  00:22:49
Sb: #14249-#Select
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

The lockout comes from a program (like the shell) tieing up a device with a
pending ReadLn.  SCF locks the device so that someone else can't splat
characters on top of whatever you're about to type in.  Just forking a subshell
with "()" doesn't cause a lockout, as it doesn't do any reads while working.

But you're right, "(selwin;myprog)<>>>/w" doesn't work.  That's because none of
those paths are associated with the currently interactive window.

It's easy to get around this when the shell (like the CoCo's) has "</1" and all
the variations (which is no doubt why that was included!).

Hmmm.  The best I can think of right now that works is slightly hardcoded to
work only from /term:

  (cls;selwin >/term;mdir -e)<>>>/w

The ">/term" is kinda like the CoCo's "</1" method.  Except we made "selwin"
send the 1b21 to path 2, and come from path 1.

Sigh.  I think we need a new shell.  Wonder how hard it'd be to do one in
Basic?  :-)   Will work on other ideas, too.  cheers - kev

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#: 14317 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  00:05:09
Sb: #14252-#Select
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

I tried just using 1b 21 to select a window without a shell, and that didn't
work either. I did the following:

  iniz /w7
  echo "this is a test" >/w8

Hit <f9> to confirm that the window was displaying; then back to /term.

 display 1b 21 >/w8

Nothing happened.

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#: 14319 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  01:00:54
Sb: #14317-Select
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Right - we went over that a few messages ago.  Try making up that winsel
command instead.  best, kev

#: 14250 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  21:42:44
Sb: #drive rates
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: all

Just thought I'd let you all know the results of some testing I've done with
Carl's new floppy drivers for the mm/1. These tests were done with a Toshiba HD
drive--I'd be interested in knowing if different drives give different results.

First off, I've discovered that I can format 37 sectors and 84 tracks. This is
probably pushing things, and is not something I recommend.

Second, here are some speed tests (I'm just showing the fastest rate at
different sect. counts):

 sects      ilv        k/sec
 36         3          596
 35-28      2          834
 27         1         1043 (not consistant)
 26         1         1390

The penalty for "turbo mode" seems to be pretty expensive.

Now we just have to decide on a standard format for interchange!

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#: 14257 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  07:00:04
Sb: #14250-#drive rates
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Hmmm...could you post dmode output for the various descriptors?  I'm finding
that I can't format /d0 using the new driver, even with the rates field
changed.  Thanks.

There are 2 Replies.

#: 14259 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  08:07:56
Sb: #14257-#drive rates
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

JJ,

I'm using the new update drivers with out a problem. I've included mm1.d0 as my
floppy descriptor with the following parameters:

name=d0
 drv=0 stp=3 typ=$27 dns=$03 cyl=80 sid=2 vfy=0 (on) sct=32 t0s=32
 sas=8 ilv=2 tfm=0 toffs=0 soffs=0 ssize=256 cntl=$0000 trys=0 lun=0
 wpc=0 rwr=0 park=0 lsnoffs=0 totcyls=80 ctrlrid=0 rates=$30
 scsiopt=$0000 maxcount=65535

Hope this helps.

Steve

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#: 14266 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  18:50:53
Sb: #14259-drive rates
Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Steve,

    I just read your message to James and saw your dmode. I set typ=$27 and
rates=$30. Now everything appears to work normally. I thought I had tried all
the combinations for PD_TYP and PD_Rate on page 3-6 of the V2.4 Release Notes.
No matter. It's working now.

Thanks,

Ernie.



#: 14270 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  22:17:09
Sb: #14259-#drive rates
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Thanks, Steve.  I'll check out what I'm using, and give the settings you list a
try.

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#: 14279 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  07:56:43
Sb: #14270-#drive rates
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

Lemme know if it works. Those parameters seem to fix Ernie up.

Steve

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#: 14284 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  17:43:50
Sb: #14279-drive rates
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Tried changing type and rates, and it did indeed work.  Thanks.

#: 14318 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  00:05:20
Sb: #14257-#drive rates
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

I see from later messages that you've gotten the dmodes you need. I did notice
that type=$27. Hmmm, shouldn't that be $26 for a 3" floppy?

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#: 14326 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  17:45:07
Sb: #14318-#drive rates
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

You may very well be right; I'd have to go look up the meanings of the bits. I
think new descriptors are going to be uploaded shortly, so I won't sweat it.

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#: 14331 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    15-Feb-92  00:01:06
Sb: #14326-drive rates
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

I'm pretty sure typ=$27 is done to make the driver think it's a 8" to get the
3ms step rate.  And to let the driver also know that it's a 3.5" for formatting
purposes.

#: 14354 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Feb-92  22:07:50
Sb: #14318-drive rates
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Mike H. is pretty close.  Type *should* be $26.  But, due to the roms, that
disk won't boot.  If (and only if) you want it to boot, you have to add $01,
the old 8" bit.  This will (I am told) be corrected in a future release of the
roms.  I made all the distribution desctriptors that way to try to avoid
billions and billions (sorry Carl) of people complaining that they couldn't get
disks to boot.

Wish I could type - desctriptors == descriptors.

#: 14278 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  06:19:23
Sb: #14250-drive rates
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

Your speed tests look a little slow.  A 1.43 Meg MM/1 type formatted disk
should get around 15 Kbytes a second transfer (read and write).

 >Now we just have to decide on a standard format for interchange!

Well, I'd suggest leaving the descriptors as thet come from IMS.  That might be
a good "standard".

Mark

#: 14251 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Feb-92  22:26:37
Sb: #14167-BASIC's INKEY
Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

AHA! that's where the 208 comes from.  I must try it from the /term port and
see what happens there. More than one way to skin a cat around here.  Must
admit though I am eagerly awaiting the VT100 version of the screen driver. (
not to mention certain windowing software ;-) ) Thanks - Bob.



#: 14253 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    10-Feb-92  03:49:53
Sb: #14093-OS-9 Community Network.
Fm: John Wight 76370,2100
To: Robert R MacKay 100036,676 (X)

Don't worry about a membership application. You apply wherever is convenient
for you. All we need is your name and address (which I already have), so that
we can start the process of exchanging information. In the case of Australian
members, we are still deciding on the method of information exchange, i.e.,
what would be the most cost effective manner. If there were enough interest in
your area, it might be to use Fido file transfers, so that you could get files
within the same day they are distributed throughout the network. Of course, if
you want the large number of files we already have, postal mail might be the
best option to start. As for method of communications, it is already
established. Here in Hawaii, I am having problems with my mail feed, but other
regional coordinators are on the echos quite regularly. I just sent the basic
information out the echos. If
 you have any questions, be sure to ask on the COCO or OS9 echo. It was
exciting to see the first message to come from Australia in the COCO echo. It
seems to prove that the COCO, OS9, and its community aren't dead, as this
community has been able to form a network that is at last reaching around the
world :-) Were you able to get our guidelines (OS9NET.ARC) from here? I am
about to upload the last two newsletters up to the miscellaneous area (in the
old IBM arc format). If you need me to send these postal mail, let me know
here, or on the COCO or OS9 echo. I will also get a care package of shareable
files together so that the region in Australia can start its library. Let me
know what disk format you want, and it would also help if you could send some
disks.

#: 14254 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  05:00:43
Sb: #14139-#Floppy Driver
Fm: John Strong 72270,1555
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Mark where is the update archieves to be found?
   John Strong

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#: 14255 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  06:45:43
Sb: #14254-Floppy Driver
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X)

Johm,

The updates are not here.  I removed them to make some corrections.  They will
be re-uploaded soon.

Mark

#: 14260 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  08:18:41
Sb: #handshaking on /t3
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: All

AS I continue my shake out of the I/O board, I've run across a problem using my
high speed PPI 9600 baud modem on /t3.

Seems that unless I turn off the local hardware flow control (RTS/CTS), data
isn't received. I can dial, make the connect, get all the nice info that tells
me I have a MNP and v.42 connection. I can also see the xmit light flash on the
modem, so data is getting through.

Flipping thought the Tech manual (nice job, Mark!), I find info to the effect
that hardware hand shaking isn't turned on. To do so, I need only to set the
high bit on the 'type' parameter.

Lessee .... it's '00' now, so that would make it $80, jes?

Reading further, I'm also told there is not software to accomplish this task.

Trying Xmode /t3 type=$80 confirms this. What's a newbie to do?

Is there a way I can do what needs to be done? Am I even on the right track?

Steve

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#: 14263 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  13:22:30
Sb: #14260-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Setting type=$80 is the way to turn on hardware handshake.  I used a binary
file editor (bedt or ded or ??) but moded works too.  I figured someone would
crank out a little util to do it.  The downside is you have to reboot after
patching.

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#: 14264 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  18:06:02
Sb: #14263-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X)

I found you can xmode /t3 type=80  (notice no hex sign) the save it out and
verify it with fixmod or ded.  I've the same set up as you. PM 9600SA and all.
Works VERY well at 38.4 Kb. :-)  Sure make uucp fly!

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#: 14269 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  21:45:46
Sb: #14264-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,

I was able to use xmode as you suggested and saved it out, used fixmod and made
a new boot. Still no luck. Everything is still as it was ... data going out,
but nothing coming back.

Which version of xmode are you using? The one that came on the distribution
disks or the one with the update modules that was here for a few days?

How do you have your modem set up? Anything special?


Steve

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#: 14273 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  02:04:50
Sb: #14269-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

The ident of my xmode util:

Header for:      xmode
Module size:     $21C2       #8642    
Owner:           1.0
Module CRC:      $98A4B1     Good CRC
Header parity:   $50CF       Good parity
Edition:         $13         #19      
Ty/La At/Rev     $101        $C001    
Permission:      $555        -----e-r-e-r-e-r
Exec off:        $4E         #78      
Data size:       $730        #1840    
Stack size:      $C00        #3072    
Init. data off:  $1E1C       #7708    
Data ref. off:   $2100       #8448    
Prog Mod, 68000 obj, Sharable, Sticky Module

Output of /t3:

noupc bsb bsl echo lf null=0 pause pag=24 bsp=08 del=18 eor=0D
eof=1B reprint=04 dup=01 psc=17 abort=03 quit=05 bse=08 bell=07
type=80 baud=38400 xon=11 xoff=13 tabc=09 tabs=4

Hope this helps!

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#: 14280 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  07:58:18
Sb: #14273-handshaking on /t3
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Your xmode matches the one I'm using (from the update). I'll try your modem
settings as well as upping the port speed to 38.4 as you have done and see what
gives.

Thanks!

Steve

#: 14274 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  02:05:26
Sb: #14269-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Here's how I set up the modem:

Practical Paripherals PM9600SA with the following defaults

AT &F &C1 &D3 S0=1 E0 L0 T Q2 &W

Then to turn on error-correction and auto compression

AT &Q5

I also got tired of listening to it dial in the middle of the night so

AT M0 &W

Here's the at&v profile:

ACTIVE PROFILE:            DTE:38400      DCE:9600      PARITY:NONE
B16 B1 B41 B60 E1 L0 M0 N1 Q20 T V1 W1 X4 Y0 &C1 &D3 &K3 &Q6 &S0 &U0 &Y0
S00:002 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S06:002 S07:120 S08:002 S09:006
S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000 S25:005 S26:001 S30:000 S36:007 S37:009 S38:020
S43:006 S46:138 S48:007 S82:128 S86:000 S95:044

STORED PROFILE 0:
B16 B1 B41 B60 E1 L0 M0 N1 Q2 T V1 W1 X4 Y0 &C1 &D3 &K3 &Q6 &S0 &U0
S00:002 S02:043 S06:002 S07:120 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000
S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:009 S38:020 S46:138 S48:007 S82:128 S95:044

STORED PROFILE 1:
B16 B1 B41 B60 E1 L0 M0 N1 Q0 T V1 W0 X4 Y0 &C1 &D3 &K3 &Q5 &S0 &U0
S00:000 S02:043 S06:002 S07:050 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000
S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:000 S38:020 S46:138 S48:007 S82:128 S95:000

Ask if you have any Q's.

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#: 14281 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  08:12:19
Sb: #14274-handshaking on /t3
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Something's still amiss. <sigh>

I'll go over your modem parameter setting with a fine tooth comb when I get
home from the office tonight. I may have someting out of wack there.

Can you think of anything else that might be contributing to this problem? Did
you happen to whip up a special cable perhaps?

I have another paddle board that is wanting one more jumper. I'll dig one up at
the office and try that board tonight, just incase it's related to that.

Thanks for working with me!

Steve

#: 14288 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  21:13:15
Sb: #14274-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)


Mike,

I've just finished installing /t4 (second paddle board) and find I have the
same problems with that one as well. The thing does fine so long as hardware
flow contrtol is off. (&K0)

I'm in the process of matching your modem parameters and trying it again, but
inthe meantime, could I get you to verify the position of the 8 jumpers on your
paddle boards?

Mine are as follows:


        ________

         DB9
        ______



        P2
    ||||||||



   P4
  .||.

Pretty sorry drawing ...but you get the idea, jes?

Steve

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#: 14291 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  01:12:32
Sb: #14288-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Well,  your jumpers are on a little diff. <Hmmm>

Ok here's mine:

      P2
   ||||||||  All of 'em jumpered.

  P4
 |:|:        I guess it's P4

        P3
       ::::  Ribbon cable to P9 on the board.

I'm doing this from memory, but I just did the set up the day before
yesterday.   Pease had one on the other end of the phone and told me
how to jumper it.

Luck,

 - Mike -


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#: 14296 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  06:31:35
Sb: #14291-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,

The jumpers on P4 control the logic of RTS and DTR.  The jumper is labeled as:

  1 * * 2
  3 * * 4
  5 * * 6
  7 * * 8

looking at the paddle board with the DB-9 to the left.  Jumpering pins 1 and 2
allow RTS to toggle freely.  Jumpers across 3 and 4 tie RTS high.  Jumpering
pins 5 and 6 allow DTR to toggle freely while jumpering 7 and 8 tie it high.

Steve's problem is pins 3 and 4 are jumpered.  The default settings on the
paddle boards are for 3,4 and 5,6 to be jumpered.  If he moves the jumper on
3,4 to 1,2, it should work.

This is all explained in the tech manual.

Mark

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#: 14306 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  17:54:55
Sb: #14296-handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)


Thanks for the help!  Yup, Mine is jumpered the way you describe.  I see he's
got it going now.  (yippie!)

> This is all explained in the tech manual.

Oh, the tech manual I have is an empty binder. ;-)



#: 14298 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  08:25:59
Sb: #14291-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,

We're cooking with gas now!

Your pictures, coupled with Marks citation from the tech manual has me up and
going with the PPI modem.

Thanks!

Now ... all I need to figure out is how to increase the xmit and rec buffer
size in the appropriate descriptors. At 9600 baud, Sterm falls all over itself
with the stock values.

Steve

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#: 14307 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  18:40:42
Sb: #14298-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Great!  Guess I had the jumpers backwards.  <eek>  Sorry 'bout that.  The way
Mark said to jumper P4 is the way I have mine too.

Have you copied the moded.fields file, that was in the update, to /DD/SYS? If
so just do a "moded t3" to the descriptor on disk.  It allows you to set the
buffer sizes.

With STerm and the PPI, just for fun try an at$h to list the modems AT menu.
You'll see that Kev's <Tab> character now maps to the old CoCo up line char.
(Bummer)  I've tried to get him to take it out.  So if you to a write to the
window, the $09 comes out as an up line command and if you do a writeln it's a
<Tab>.  'Course it makes sense to use write in a term program, right? <g> (Pun
Alert!) 'Cause write is the right way to write, right?  (Baa-daa-ping!)

When you figure out the optimal buffer sizes for Sterm and /t3 lemme know what
sizes you ended up with.  My input buffer size is 3840 and the output buffer is
32768?  Seems quite incorrect to me!  Lemme check to see If I have the latest
/t3 descriptor....   Oops!  My t3 is 8 bytes shorter than the latest.  Better
fix that right now.  Input is 80 output is 140.....

.. Ok put the new descriptor in.  I set the input buffer to 4096. Works well
for everything but CIS at 9600 bps.  @ 9600 it still drops chars with STerm on
CIS.  <Arg!>    Works fine on the local BBS's and with UUCP tho.

(Ain't this fun!)

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#: 14308 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  21:27:46
Sb: #14307-handshaking on /t3
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Wow .... you're really up there with the buffer size.  I was thinking hard to
use 1024. I'll let you know what I finally end up with.

Thanks for the pointer on the moded.fields file. Without manuals, I'm running
blind. And I hate to keep asking Mark for every bit of advice.

Back to the buffer size... I wonder how Carl setled on 80/140 as defaults. Or
is he just carrying on a Microware tradition?

Steve

#: 14311 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    13-Feb-92  07:01:59
Sb: #14307-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,

 >You'll see that Kev's <Tab> character now maps to the old CoCo up line char.
 >(Bummer)  I've tried to get him to take it out.  So if you to a write to the
 >window, the $09 comes out as an up line command and if you do a writeln it's
 >a <Tab>.  'Course it makes sense to use write in a term program, right? <g>

Yeah, I noticed with Sterm that stupid up cursor comes back because Sterm does
use write() to write to the screen.  I thought about putting writeln() in to
fix it, but then I'd have to wait until a full line of text came in from the
modem before writing to the screen.  This would make the output look pretty
jumpy if there were long lines in the data stream so I decided against it.

Seems pretty stupid to me to have that up-cursor in there again.  After years
of listening to people complain about it you would think that Kevin would not
have put it back in.  Sometimes I wonder were that boy's mine is.

Mark

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#: 14320 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  01:01:41
Sb: #14311-#handshaking on /t3
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Ummm, the 09=up was in there because of the people who originally wanted
(and had specified at first) "CoCo compatibility".

As for write() vs writeln()... learn some more.  Writeln doesn't always mean
"write until carriage return".  It means "write with possible editing"...
eg: change tabs to spaces for terminals which don't support tabs and/or if
you want tabs to be a different spacing than what the terminal default is.

Writeln works just like write if you specify fewer characters and turn off
certain path options.  RTM.  

Here's a program which should take any windio version and kill the 09=up code.
Load it into basic, pack it, then chd to your boot module directory and
make a copy of your old windio.  Now call the program using the name of
the windio file to modify, like "nulltab windio"... then make a new boot.
Enjoy!

PROCEDURE nulltab
DIM f,filepos:INTEGER
DIM b,bmi(2),nop(2):BYTE
filepos=0 \ nop(1)=$4e\ nop(2)=$71

PARAM name$
OPEN #f,name$
LOOP
GET #f,bmi
filepos=filepos+2
IF bmi(1)=$6b AND bmi(2)=$04 THEN
GET #f,bmi
IF bmi(1)=$33 AND bmi(2)=$40 THEN
PRINT USING "h4",filepos
GOTO 100
ENDIF
filepos=filepos+2
ENDIF
ENDLOOP
END
100 REM Replace 09 code with nop's
SEEK #f,filepos
PUT #f,nop
PUT #f,nop
CLOSE #f
SHELL "fixmod -u "+name$
END

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#: 14323 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  12:00:58
Sb: #14320-handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Neat Kev!  I made the patch, what a difference.  Is there a way to patch it to
jump the routine that converts 09's to the writeln 09 routine?  Thanks,

 - Mike -



#: 14338 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Feb-92  06:04:50
Sb: #14320-handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kevin,

 >Ummm, the 09=up was in there because of the people who originally wanted
 >(and had specified at first) "CoCo compatibility".

Good answer Kev.  Did you keep all the other bugs in there too so everyone
would feel "at home" (grin).

Mark

#: 14322 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  12:00:11
Sb: #14311-handshaking on /t3
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Sterm isn't the only com program that uses write.  So does uWare's Com. I
wonder if Vaughn Cato's does the same?  Even Kermit uses write!

 - Mike -

#: 14267 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Feb-92  21:00:36
Sb: #MM/1 getstat & setstat
Fm: John Strong 72270,1555
To: Kevin Darling

Where can I get   information on the get & set status call for the MM/1?
Assembly language please.
     John Strong

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#: 14275 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  02:25:01
Sb: #14267-#MM/1 getstat & setstat
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X)

John,

You can find all that in the OS-9 system manuals that come with you OSK box.
There is a whole section on OS-9 system calls.  If you don't have your manuals
yet, I can help you on some of them.  Any calls you have in mind?

 - Mike -



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#: 14289 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  22:54:36
Sb: #14275-#MM/1 getstat & setstat
Fm: John Strong 72270,1555
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,
 no manuals yet! I need the screen/window related calls.  I program primaryly
in assembly.  Will try C when my I/O board arrives & I have the Hard drive
running.

thanks in advance for any and all help.

    John R. Strong

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#: 14292 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  01:13:11
Sb: #14289-#MM/1 getstat & setstat
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X)

John,

If you can call the c library from asm you should be able to use the CGFX.L
here in Lib 12.  The docs are up there also.  If you can't use the library, I'm
pretty sure someone had uploaded a util that told the display codes for the
CoCo 3 in DL 10.  One was called displa.txt and the other helpwn.b09.

Any specific codes you need?  This list is quite extensive.



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#: 14309 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  22:03:37
Sb: #14292-MM/1 getstat & setstat
Fm: John Strong 72270,1555
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,
  I know the Coco 3 display codes.
  Without the Osk Manuals, I have no idea on how to call a C library function.
  What I need is the down and dirty (grin) details on using such get/set status
  calls as SS.Palet gs.address , etc.  from assembly.
  register usage , data stuctures (SS.Mouse) and the like.
  I can't start to port any of my games to OSK with this info.
  Screen layout info would also be handy, as well as more info on SS.Play &
  SS.Tone.

 any and all info would be appreciated.  I can hardly to get my games running
 on the MM/1. (Soviet Bloc & Gems)

       John Strong

#: 14272 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  00:25:49
Sb: #Of mice & MM/1's
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kev;

  Finally got my I/O board last week and got the HD populated -- this
is *great*!  What a personality change it makes in the MM/1!!

  I'm having a bit of trouble getting a mouse to work tho, and could
use a hint or two.  ;-)

  I've got ms and ms901 (ms68901) in memory, stdpats_16 & _256 merged via
startup, but I never see a mouse pointer.  Tried both a Mouse Systems
trackball and a Logictech mouse on /t2 (they both work on a PC).

  Logictech is completely dead - movement = null, buttons = null. Mouse
  says on bottom 'Microsoft compatible'.

  Mouse Systems - buttons = null, trackball = window change. M/S is
  supposed to be 'Logictech compatible'.

  What am I missing?  Should I have /t2 in the boot?

 TIA,
  ...Jim
p.s.  For anyone looking for an audio cable for their MM/1, most stereo
  dealers carry a cable made for Euro cassette decks to amp input made
  by RECOTON - p/n AC409 for about $3.69 or so.


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#: 14276 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  02:25:39
Sb: #14272-#Of mice & MM/1's
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

Jim,

Do you have ms68901 or ms901?  They are different drivers.  Make sure the baud
rate in /ms is set to 1200. And dump /ms to see which driver it wants. (Should
be at the end of the module).

The driver and descriptor has to be Gen'd into the boot or it wont work.  Also
you'll need to leave /T2 OUT of the bootfile.  The patterns should not affect
the mouse at all.

I'm running a LogiTech 3 button mouse here, Model No: CC-93-DF. (I can't
remember what the box said, I use to use it on the CoCo)

Let us know how it turns out.   If you don't get a pointer after doing the
above.  Post the Idents of the modules and the xmode to /ms for me.

 - Mike -





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#: 14295 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  06:14:09
Sb: #14276-#Of mice & MM/1's
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike;
  
  Thanks for the quick reply.  About the only thing that I hadn't checked
was the baud rate for /ms, but it was O.K.

>Do you have ms68901 or ms901? They are different drivers.

  Hmm, the bootlist calls for ms68901, but ms901 is the one that shows up
in an MDIR.  There is no ms901 in the bootmods/win directory.  A dump shows
both to be identical, at least on screen.

 Header for:      ms
 Module size:     $78         #120     
 Owner:           0.1
 Module CRC:      $A4F4E0     Good CRC
 Header parity:   $3F5B       Good parity
 Edition:         $5          #5       
 Ty/La At/Rev     $F00        $8000    
 Permission:      $555        -----e-r-e-r-e-r
 Dev Descr, Sharable

 Header for:      ms901
 Module size:     $2C8        #712     
 Owner:           0.0
 Module CRC:      $78AEE2     Good CRC
 Header parity:   $1E22       Good parity
 Edition:         $2          #2       
 Ty/La At/Rev     $E01        $A000    
 Permission:      $555        -----e-r-e-r-e-r
 Dev Drv, 68000 obj, Sharable, System State Process

 /ms
 noupc bsb bsl noecho lf null=0 nopause pag=24 bsp=08 del=18 eor=0D
 eof=1B reprint=04 dup=01 psc=17 abort=00 quit=00 bse=08 bell=07
 type=00 baud=1200 xon=11 xoff=13 tabc=09 tabs=4

  T2 is NOT in the bootlist, per the instructions in the User's Guide.  I'm
beginning to think that the Mouse Systems TR-305 is a non-compatible one,
although I thought Mike Knudsen was using one.
        
  Thanks,
    ...Jim

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#: 14305 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  17:54:06
Sb: #14295-Of mice & MM/1's
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)

Jim,

You have the same modules as mine.  Hmmmm.  Execpt my ms901 was patched to give
me full access to the hi-res overscan screens.  Xmode is the same on the
discriptor too.

Only suggestion at this point is to borrow a mouse that is known to be Logitech
compatible.



#: 14282 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    11-Feb-92  12:49:00
Sb: #vefprt
Fm: Tom Napolitano 70215,1130
To:  76477,142 (X)


    Brother Jeremy,

      I don't get back onto CIS much any more, so I only just noticed the
problems an early, bug ridden version of vefprt was causing.  As the originator
of this abomination, I apologize for any inconvenience this may have generated.
Bruce Isted's update is the version I currently use.

      tomn

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#: 14290 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    11-Feb-92  23:00:02
Sb: #14282-vefprt
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Tom Napolitano 70215,1130 (X)

Dear Tom, No appology needed. Those bugs caused me to do my homework and I
learned a great deal about OS9 in the process. Thank you for giving us the
 original program and getting the ball rolling. With all best Wishes,

Br. Jeremy, CSJW

#: 14283 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  17:37:48
Sb: #'C' help
Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
To: all

does someone have a 'C' program segment that shows an example of how to read
directory entries and file sizes.

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#: 14285 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Feb-92  18:55:21
Sb: #14283-#'C' help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X)

Scott -


Look at the files.ar source in DL9. It's fairly simple though:

  1) Open directory of choice for DIR+READ
  2) Scan entries at 32 bytes each (29 name; 3 LSN of FD Sector)
  3) When you find the name you want, get the LSN for its FD Sector
  4) Open the WHOLE disk (i.e. /d1@, /dd@), and seek & read that
     sector number. Extract the file's size from here.

Pete

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#: 14294 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  04:51:29
Sb: #14285-#'C' help
Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

I could not find the files.ar in Lib 9. seems pretty straightfoward though

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#: 14301 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    12-Feb-92  08:59:18
Sb: #14294-#'C' help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X)

Scott -

You may also want to see if HDKALL.AR has it in there (Dl9). Mike Ward may have
FILES.AR offline in an archive. Drop him a note at 76703,2013.

Pete

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#: 14324 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  15:35:29
Sb: #14301-#'C' help
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Nope, no FILES.AR in ANY of my offline archives.

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#: 14325 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    14-Feb-92  16:04:02
Sb: #14324-#'C' help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X)

Bummer... I hope I included it in HDKALL in that case.

Pete

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#: 14330 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    15-Feb-92  00:00:41
Sb: #14325-#'C' help
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

If I remember right,  you wanted to keep tighter control on HDKIT so you had
'em remove the source and you uploaded an AR of the executables only.



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#: 14347 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Feb-92  10:43:24
Sb: #14330-'C' help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike -

Not to my knowledge, but then I am getting old. In fact, I thought HDKALL was a
full posting of all sources, since I was getting rid of the Gimix, and wanted
other folks to be able to munge it if they wanted.

Pete

#: 14297 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Feb-92  06:34:06
Sb: #Paddle board jumpers
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Steve Wegert, 76703,4255 (X)

Steve,

See the message reply I made to Mike H. about your modem problem.

Mark

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#: 14299 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Feb-92  08:30:55
Sb: #14297-#Paddle board jumpers
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Got it fixed up sir!

Good thing it snowed .... or I'd feel bad about not coming right in to the
office this morning!

'tain't St. Louis forecasters grand?  "Not much more than an inch expected"


Yeah ... right!

Now onto buffer sizes. Just playing here with a binary editor shows a dramatic
improvement with Sterms ability to keep up at 9600 baud. If I only knew how to
deal with 16 bits at a time!  :-)

I'll nab you at the office.

Steve

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#: 14314 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Feb-92  13:53:20
Sb: #14299-#Paddle board jumpers
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Arghh.... I saw the 80/140 question go by in high gear and don't know how to
get back to it, sooo....

80/140 is just the defaults as the stuff is received from MW.  Nothing magic
about it, but it does have it's roots in the old days of 64K. Hardly a concern
these days, no?  - Carl

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#: 14315 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Feb-92  20:48:03
Sb: #14314-#Paddle board jumpers
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X)

No sweat, Carl. I figured those values had to be defaults. Thanks for the the
confirmation.

Steve


BTW ... Barry Bond may be contacting you via Email. He has some interest in
your SCSI tape drivers. Seems he's been without SCSI tape support on his TC70
for some time, and it's begining to get in the way. I mentioned you might be
able to help.



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#: 14351 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Feb-92  20:53:50
Sb: #14315-#Paddle board jumpers
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Oh my.  I could help if he had an MM/1, but I probably can't do anything for
the TC070.  Any tape driver would have to work with Dave's hard disk driver,
and I am not privy to that.

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#: 14363 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Feb-92  08:27:37
Sb: #14351-Paddle board jumpers
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X)

Well ..... not to worry. He won't be needing the SCSI stuff anytime soon. Seems
he's fried the TC70 shortly after he received the new serial cables Frank sent
for him to install.

I doubt the two incidents were related, but ...

Given all the problems Barry still has with the TC70 system he purchased almost
a year ago, my advice to him was to pack the whole thing up and send it to
Frank with a note:

"When it works they way it's supposed to, ship it back".

We'll see what transpires.

Steve

#: 14302 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    12-Feb-92  09:24:53
Sb: #OS9 support
Fm: Michael McShan 72227,3634
To: All





[B I [C [C Is it possible to acquire a copy of the Tandy C compiler or OS9 tech
reference manual and software at this late date in history?  I have recently
revived my interest in my COCO and OS9 and would like to acquire these. Anybody
have any suggestions?

Mike

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#: 14334 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Feb-92  09:46:15
Sb: #14302-OS9 support
Fm:  Bernard Brooks 72411,2172
To: Michael McShan 72227,3634

Try calling Tandy National Parts.  I just bought a copy of OS-9 LII by calling
them directly, but you can alos special order through Radio Shack.

-Bernard

#: 14316 S1/General Interest
    13-Feb-92  23:10:15
Sb: OS-9 Job at Heurikon
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: all

[edited from usenet]

OS-9 Software Engineer wanted:

A BSEE or BS/CS and at least 2 years experience with OS-9, C language and
Motorola 68K are required.   Operating systems programming and UNIX experience
is a definite  plus.  Excellent written and oral communication skills are
essential.

Heurikon offers a generous compensation and benefits package in a
professionally encouraging environment.   For consideration, please E-Mail your
resume to >INTERNET:mike.cerny@heurikon.com, or mail your resume to:   Arlene
Michaels,  Director of Human Resources, Heurikon, 8310 Excelsior Drive, 
Madison, WI 53717.   An Equal Opportunity Employer M/F/H/V. Women and
minorities are encouraged to apply.

Only those with OS-9 experience will be considered for this position.       
UNIX is a registered trademark of AT&T.

#: 14321 S7/Telecommunications
    14-Feb-92  06:59:34
Sb: #STERM lockup
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: STERM users

Have any STERM users experienced lock-ups when down-loading?  It seems to me
that at least 30% of the time when downloading with Compuserve B, STERM locks
up and I have to QUIT out.  Symptoms from watching the modem lights seem to
indicate that something happens at the end of or during the pause for disk
writing (I'll have to try it with ramdisk) when transmission from CIS
apparently stops.  Then a character seems to come from CIS every minute or so
but gets no response from my computer.  Am  I correct that there is no breakout
option with STERM to get out of the downloading mode?  Thanks for your comments
and advice.  Ches.

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#: 14333 S7/Telecommunications
    15-Feb-92  09:29:29
Sb: #14321-#STERM lockup
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)

Ches,

I'm using Sterm and not noticing any problems while downloading ....but have
had some lock ups while trying to capture ASCII files and capture dumps.

Looking closer at the data on the screen, I noticed a repeating pattern which
reminded me of a similar occurance on the CoCo when 2400 baud modems became
popular and we started to push the box.

The xmit and receive buffers are tiny and tend to overflow quickly. Sterm
looses it's mind when this happen. I've only been able to hit the reset button
to regain control.

I've bumpped the buffers up to 2K and haven't seen the problem since.

I'm curious ... how fast are you running the port and what type of modem?

Steve

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#: 14361 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Feb-92  06:40:43
Sb: #14333-#STERM lockup
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Thanks for response, Steve.  I'm running 2400 on an Avatex modem.  From an
intuitive viewpoint, I'd guess small buffers to be the problem.  How can I
alter buffer size?  Ches.

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#: 14366 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Feb-92  08:50:52
Sb: #14361-STERM lockup
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)

Opps.... almost replied as if you were running on a MM/1.

Changing the buffer sizes will depend on whose drivers you're using. If they're
tandy stock, there's a file in the COCO Library here that details the offsets
to modify.

Try a browse /key:ACIA

or /key:buffer*

and see what pops up.

Steve

#: 14339 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Feb-92  06:04:53
Sb: #14321-#STERM lockup
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)

Ches,

 >Have any STERM users experienced lock-ups when down-loading?

Are you dowloading to a floppy drive?  Is this an OSK machine?

Mark

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#: 14362 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Feb-92  06:42:47
Sb: #14339-#STERM lockup
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Thanks for response, Mark.  Lineup is CoCoIII, Avatex 2400 modem, download to a
hard drive through an Owlware system.  Ches.

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#: 14374 S7/Telecommunications
    18-Feb-92  06:06:56
Sb: #14362-#STERM lockup
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)


 >Lineup is CoCoIII, Avatex 2400 modem, download to
 >a hard drive through an Owlware system.

If you are locking up with B+ downloads, you are either missing interrupts or
the hard drive is not fast enough.  If you don't have the IRQ hack installed
you should.  Try specifying the -f option when you start Sterm and see how that
goes.

Mark



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#: 14377 S7/Telecommunications
    18-Feb-92  09:53:49
Sb: #14374-STERM lockup
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Thanks Mark.  I don't have the IRQ hack installed - never felt the need, maybe
now I do.  I'll try the -f and let you know.  Thanks for info. Ches.

#: 14328 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Feb-92  22:12:42
Sb: #In memoriam
Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
To: All

To judge from the number of messages in the past month or so, OS9 on the CoCo 3
is dead. I suppose it was to be expected, but, speaking as one who has to
struggle to pay the mortgage and taxes and hasn't a hope of ever being able to
afford a new computer, I'm sad to see it go. I guess whatever I've got in terms
of hardware and software will have to do in the future. Too bad ... OS9 is such
an elegant system.

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#: 14329 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    14-Feb-92  22:21:50
Sb: #14328-In memoriam
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)

I don't know whether I'd draw that conclusion, Ian.  Doing so is sort of like
the famous Literary Digest poll back in the 30's from which it was concluded
that FDR didn't have a snowball's chance in <theological region> of being
elected president.  Just as they picked people with phones to ask, and thus got
mostly the folks with money, looking here on CIS similarly skews the results,
considering how much more it costs to use the OS-9 SIG here on CIS than to
spend the same amount of time, say, on Delphi, what with the 20/20 deal they
offer.

Check out the OS-9 echo on FIDO...it seems pretty active to me, and mostly the
folks there have CoCos, near as I can tell.

#: 14332 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Feb-92  03:27:20
Sb: #14328-#In memoriam
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)

Ian -

Most people here read and download, and post mostly when they have a question.
I guess all the questions have been answered :-)  Well, not really, of course.

I think there are probably more CC-3 OS9 users now than ever.  Check out some
of the cocolist transcripts in Lib 14 (they're near the top).  The coco fests
are still held, also... only most of the stuff there is for OS-9, either 6809
or very gradually, 68K.

So no, most people feel as you do: as long as the stuff works, teaches
something, or is a nice cheap hobby, they're still using the Coco-3. Strangely,
I've been getting a lot of calls lately from people who're still using L-I on a
CoCo-1/2!  Can you believe it?  I couldn't!  <grin>

kev

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#: 14352 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    16-Feb-92  21:05:42
Sb: #14332-#In memoriam
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Speaking of people happy with their systems--I got a call from an elderly lady
the other night wondering if I could replace here TW64 TAPE (I couldn't, but
that's not the point). She's been using TW64 on her CoCo1 for years now. She's
tried MSDOS machines, and still prefers her old coco. With a tape!

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#: 14356 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    16-Feb-92  22:55:03
Sb: #14352-In memoriam
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob - if you can believe it, I ran into someone the other day at a RS store who
was still using that old 32-column ROMPAK text editor!  He was just now
thinking about getting a disk drive for his coco.  Wild world!

#: 14336 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    15-Feb-92  14:58:43
Sb: 'c' and Microware basic
Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
To: all

Is there a way to link 'c' sub-routines to Microware basic in OS9 68K? I know
under LvlI/II you could link with the '-b' option while linking it, but the
'l68' module does not provide that option.

#: 14337 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    15-Feb-92  19:08:45
Sb: For sale
Fm: David J. Campbell 72707,1346
To: All

    For Sale:  Color Computer I Technical Reference Manual - $7.50 plus
               p+h.  Color Computer II Service Manual for 26-3026 and
               26-3027 Color Computer II's - $10.00 plus p+h.  Leave
               private mail.  Thanks.


                                                        Dave



#: 14349 S1/General Interest
    16-Feb-92  19:29:43
Sb: CoCo3 Items Sale
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

Some of you may have read that I've dropped down to a CoCo2.  Therefore I now
have some CoCo3 software and hardware I am offering for sale.  Send E-mail or
leave a forum message for a descriptive list (about 11K).  I uploaded it to my
PER area but CIS rejected it as a text file so I tried again calling it binary.
You will therefore receive the list as binary, so just download it from your
mailbox with a protocol and you should have no trouble reading it in DECB and I
presume in OS-9 as well.

#: 14350 S15/Hot Topics
    16-Feb-92  20:38:17
Sb: New 68030 OSK Computers
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
To: all

I just uploaded two files to DL15 about TWO 68030 based OSK computers from FHL.

Thank You

Frank Hogg -- FHL

#: 14353 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    16-Feb-92  21:09:59
Sb: COCO 3 SALE
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: ALL

COCO 3 for sale 512 kRAM drive controller software If interested cotact me for
price and info on software. 914 478 5848 (voice) 914 478 5851 (fax) or
CompuServe Mail # 74016,631

#: 14355 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    16-Feb-92  22:49:24
Sb: #Welcome Aboard
Fm: BILL HEALTON 73367,357
To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X)

John, Glad to see you on CIS. You can get my name/ID from this message.
Happy MM1 programming.

Bill Healton


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#: 14395 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    21-Feb-92  21:18:34
Sb: #14355-Welcome Aboard
Fm: John Strong 72270,1555
To: BILL HEALTON 73367,357

Thanks Bill.
 got a 2nd drive form Lyben & it works fine,
 however it is noiser than the orginal.

 I may be getting another ST & a Monochrome monitor
 from my brother in Denver.  HMM...
     John Strong

#: 14357 S3/Languages
    16-Feb-92  23:20:53
Sb: #Cenv.ar
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Anyone

   I downloaded 'cenv.ar' and unar'ed it. The documentation is further
   encoded and I can't figure out how to decode it. Has anyone been
   sucessful decoding this?
                               Paul



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#: 14370 S3/Languages
    17-Feb-92  21:22:55
Sb: #14357-#Cenv.ar
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)

You need to use a program called CUTS. It is an encoder/decoder for use on the
UUCP networks. (I Think) It sould be here on CIS. Just
 browse for CUTS in the databases.

Br. Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 14380 S3/Languages
    18-Feb-92  15:11:38
Sb: #14370-Cenv.ar
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

  Thanks. Will look around for it.

#: 14358 S15/Hot Topics
    16-Feb-92  23:28:04
Sb: #Vaughn Cato
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Vaughn Cato

   Does anyone know the whereabouts of Vaughn Cato author of OSTerm?

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#: 14359 S15/Hot Topics
    17-Feb-92  00:25:24
Sb: #14358-#Vaughn Cato
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)

Vaughn's Internet Address is : vcato@sctnve.sct.peachnet.edu

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#: 14379 S15/Hot Topics
    18-Feb-92  15:10:47
Sb: #14359-Vaughn Cato
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

  Thanks Mike.

#: 14367 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    17-Feb-92  19:17:45
Sb: #Hard drive
Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
To: all

I found a Segate 3.5 hard drive, 57mb, IDE, for about $189.00. This is a bare
drive I guess. Can it be used with my Coco3 with Multipak? I have a old 12v
5.25 full hth drive case I could mount it in. What would I have to have for
additional hardware? A western digital controller with a Coco interface? What
about booting OS9 and also RSDOS. Can it be partitioned for both? Thanks,
Denise

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#: 14371 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    17-Feb-92  22:19:32
Sb: #14367-Hard drive
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X)

Denise - hmm, dunno.  You might try calling Burke&Burke, and Frank Hogg Labs,
and CoCoPRO to see what controllers are available.

Which reminds me.  Perhaps someone can put together a list of phone numbers of
CoCo/os9 companies and post it?  That'd be a great help!

#: 14373 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    17-Feb-92  22:50:40
Sb: #14367-Hard drive
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X)

An IDE drive has its controller built into it.  PC's only need a host adapter
to use that drive.  Same with a CoCo, but I doubt any IDE host adapter for a
CoCo exists.  I don't recommend even attempting to run Disk BASIC (DECB) on the
hard drive though it can be done.  OS-9 boot is possible if you get a capable
ROM etc.; contact Burke&Burke for that.  You can put that drive in your case
but you will need an adapter to make it fit in there.  Somewhere (Lib 9 or 10 I
think) there's a text file about hard drives and the CoCo; I suggest you have a
look at it.  You got a pretty good price on that drive but I doubt you're going
to be able to use it on a CoCo.  Go for a SCSI based system instead.

#: 14376 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    18-Feb-92  07:44:04
Sb: #14367-Hard drive
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X)

I'm not aware of anything for the CoCo that will let you use an IDE drive; just
SCSI or ST-506.

#: 14368 S1/General Interest
    17-Feb-92  20:25:48
Sb: #XPAD Address
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: ALL

Does anyone here know the hardware adress that is used by the old XPAD. ??????
Joerg Sattler, 74016,631

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#: 14372 S1/General Interest
    17-Feb-92  22:25:33
Sb: #14368-#XPAD Address
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X)

Joerg - the XPad is at FF60-63.  I can't find my docs right away on what each
address is for, tho.  I believe the first is X, the second is Y, and the third
is the button and menu and validity status.  Need more?

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#: 14384 S1/General Interest
    19-Feb-92  19:04:32
Sb: #14372-XPAD Address
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

When using the Eliminator I believe that address is not in use so
theoretivcally It should be possible. I would like to get all I can. I am
curoisus Curious as to wheter it could be used under OS9 If possiv [Dble.

#: 14375 S1/General Interest
    18-Feb-92  06:29:55
Sb: #14368-#XPAD Address
Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714
To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X)

Joerg:

I just happened to have an old reference manual for the X-Pad lying around.

 Here's the X-Pad hardware register specs:

 $FF60
    X = 0..255          X coordinate

 $FF61
    Y = 0..255          Y coordinate

 $FF62
    Status Byte
        D0  Pen Down        1 = Pen is down
        D1  Proximity       1 = Pen is within 1 inch of the pad surface
        D2  X-Margin        1 = Pen NOT within 1 inch of X margin
        D3  Y-Margin        1 = Pen NOT within 1 inch of Y margin
        D4..D7 Always 0

Bob



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#: 14385 S1/General Interest
    19-Feb-92  19:08:25
Sb: #14375-#XPAD Address
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: Bob Santy 76417,714 (X)

Do you think it's possible to use the xpad under os9, or is the address
conflict insurmoutable. I am using the eliminator setup so in theory there is a
way to not have a hardware address conflict. unless the xpad uses a reserved
address belonging to the GIME. I seem to remenmber something like that from a
long while ago??.  Joerg

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#: 14386 S1/General Interest
    20-Feb-92  05:45:12
Sb: #14385-#XPAD Address
Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714
To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X)

The address conflict wouldn't be as much an issue to me as WHAT KIND of OS9
driver to use.  Seems to me that an SCF driver is closest.  Then again, it may
not fit the bill.  You could think about a file manager as well.  The X-Pad is
kind of like a mouse, but is a mouse compatible with the SCF concept?

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#: 14389 S1/General Interest
    20-Feb-92  19:11:13
Sb: #14386-#XPAD Address
Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631
To: Bob Santy 76417,714 (X)

Who would actually the best person to ask these questions of?? CIS Joerg

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#: 14391 S1/General Interest
    21-Feb-92  06:42:04
Sb: #14389-XPAD Address
Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714
To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631

Joerg:

I guess I don't know.  I'd probably try an SCF driver for starters and see if
it works out.  Handle most of the information using GETSTAT calls modeled on
the mouse stuff in the level 2 windows?  I suspect that the X-pad driver would
rarely present data that you could use read calls for.

#: 14382 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    19-Feb-92  09:55:29
Sb: archiving methods
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: all

Last night, I uploaded to DL12 a study I just did of 4 compression/ archiving
commands for OSK.

I thought this would be helpful to all when choosing an archive method to get
the most out of your transmissions.....

Enjoy!

jim Sutemeier

#: 14383 S1/General Interest
    19-Feb-92  17:37:29
Sb: MW Network Jobs
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: all

[edited from Usenet]

Microware Systems Corporation seeks candidates for two full-time Software
Engineer positions in our Networking Department. Responsibilities include
maintenance and enhancement of Internet Software, file managers, device drivers
and utilities, as well as network performance monitoring, analysis and
troubleshooting.

Desired Qualifications:
  - In-depth knowledge of TCP, UDP, IP internals
  - OS-9 or UNIX device driver experience (AM7990, SLIP, etc.)
  - NFS, RPC internals
  - Experience in C and assembler (680x0, 80386, RISC)

Contact: Please send resume or questions to:

  Mike Burgher
  Microware Systems Corporation
  1900 N.W. 114th Street
  Des Moines, IA 50325-7077
  >INTERNET:mikeb@microware.com

#: 14387 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    20-Feb-92  07:17:14
Sb: OS-9 Community Network
Fm: Robert R MacKay 100036,676
To:  76370,2100

John, thanks for the reply. I also left a message for you on Fido Echomail, but
as you point out there has been a problem in that area. I have just downloaded
the OCNN01 and OCNN02 from CI$. Have not had a look yet, but am sure they will
be interesting. Gordon Bentzen will also be interested, and copies of which I
will convey to him tomorrow, as we work for the same company. I will also
upload to the News area on our local Fido BBS, the "Galaxy Gateway" 3:640/316.

     Thanks for the offer of files. We certainly would appreciate the
opportunity to access this database. Most of us here are using the 80 track
double sided format, with 5 1/4 floppy drives, and from memory, I think 20 meg
is average for our hard drives. A few of us including myself have fitted the 1
meg upgrade, the others (here in Queensland) are using 512 K. We also have a
few OSK users, with a local member Don Berrie (author of CENV) having ordered
an MM 1.

     Just a little info to maybe give a bit of insight to the users "Down
Under".

     I will send to you via the postal services, any number of disks you care
to nominate, by way of reply to me on either CI$, or Echo Mail. I have your
address as 814 Bannister St #4, Honolulu, HI 96819.

     Well, it's getting on now John (10 after Midnight Friday morn), so I beter
go. I will upload this to CI$ and Echo Mail, so you will receive it one way or
the other.

     Regards, & best wishes from Rob MacKay :-)
          (and the users down under)

#: 14388 S1/General Interest
    20-Feb-92  14:24:29
Sb: Hard Drive Sale
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

I am offering a complete OS-9 hard drive system for sale as part of my
transition to CoCo2/80386.  I have uploaded a full description of the system to
the Color Computer Forum (GO COCO) in Lib 14.  The file name is HDSYS.TXT. I
just uploaded the file so if it is still awaiting sysop approval, please go
back later to get it.  The file length is about 3.5K and is text which can be
read online.

#: 14390 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    20-Feb-92  23:09:19
Sb: GNU C Compiler
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: all

Good news for you OSK C people.  I've obtained permission to upload the GNU C++
Compiler to this SIG, and will upload it here soon.  (as soon as I have all of
it downloaded from the 'other' service!!)

It'll be really great of an addition to your C libraries.

jim Sutemeier

Sirius Software



#: 14392 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    21-Feb-92  08:37:11
Sb: #/P ports
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Steve;

  Thanks for the info on the /P ports - I'll be ordering the Tech Manual RSN I
guess.

  Have you heard of anyone doing anything with the I**C interface yet? I read
an interesting news blurb the other day about a breakout card being developed
by (I think) DEC and Phillips specifically for the I**C. Will bring the info
home and post if there's any interest.

re: Artec mouse
  Fry's Electronics and CompUsa both carry them for around $15 - one of the
benefits of living here in 'hi-tech wonderland' - lots of price competition.

  ...Jim

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#: 14393 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    21-Feb-92  19:36:15
Sb: #14392-/P ports
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153

Thanks for the the information on the mouse. Is this the one that that has the
scaleable resolution button on the side? Two button? Three button?

Steve

#: 14394 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    21-Feb-92  19:40:08
Sb: #14392-/P ports
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153


Jim,

The only stuff I've seen on the I2C buss has been in the Tech manual. Mark's
included a page of device and part numbers. Interesting reading.
 If you find out anything else, I'd be interested in seeing it.




#: 14396 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    21-Feb-92  21:31:40
Sb: #upload space
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: [F] Wayne Day 76703,376

Wayne....I am preparing to upload the cmds for the C++ Compiler, but the sign
tells me that it's out of space for uploading.

Could you take care of this?

Thanks.

jim Sutemeier

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#: 14397 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    21-Feb-92  22:04:18
Sb: #14396-upload space
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754

Jim, I've squeezed a bit more space for you into the libs. Can you give us some
idea of the size of the upload(s) you have planned?




#: 14398 S7/Telecommunications
    21-Feb-92  23:12:43
Sb: DESKMATE3 Downloading
Fm: MARK LITTLE 70761,3147
To:  72756,2213

I am using (sometimes) Deskmate3 on my CoCo3.  I have successfully downloaded
AR'd files and extracted them before. However I have twice downloaded STERM1.51
and STERM.AR and have been unable to get it working.  After much checking and
leaving a couple of messages, I have made sure all needed modules are in my
boot file
           /t2   /t1   /m2 and have tried running:   STERM -l/t2  >/1     also.



I keep getting a non-existent module error. I know the modules are on the disk,
and tried linking them in memory before running STERM, and couldn't load any of
them.  A check with IDENT shows all the listed modules below have incorrect
module headers.
      bplus.h           common.h          io.c
      bplus.c           xmodem.h          crc.c
      io.c

Could I be doing something wrong, or could Deskmate be writing the wrong header
info while downloading?

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