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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      10/04/91 18:59  Msg:6634 Call:37655 Lines:3
 20 Patience, that blending of moral courage with physical timidity.
 21 -- Thomas Hardy
 22 *******************************************************************
003=Usr:92 Katherine Dohert  10/04/91 20:05  Msg:6636 Call:37657 Lines:1
 23 *******allmostat the top**************************kathyD*******************
004=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/05/91 06:12  Msg:6639 Call:37661 Lines:39
 24 ?????????? Remaining relentlent in my pursuits of Unhappiness anywhere it
 25    my exist on this Planet or Elsewhere, I will continue with my triade ...
 26  
 27 Although the meeting may have been a coupla years ago, NOW, on the OTHER
 28 (north) end of this same wtreet, which remains unpaved ... they only paved 
 29 what Overlord Dave wanted them to ... a long, long story unto itself), we
 30 have a young couple that's just moved in across the travesty the City 
 31 placed in the yard who nothing about the "Clause" in THEIR sales contract
 32 until the day there were supposed to close which is, of course, AFTER 
 33 they'd already paid a huge non-refundable earnest money deposit and had
 34 done hours upon hours of fixup.  Since they are ALSO on a corner lot, even
 35 though you couldn't tell by looking because I've landscaped the right of
 36 way (Which I was told would be mine when "THEY" stole my property), these
 37 new neighbors could be in much the same position ...
 38  
 39 ... ESPECIALLY if ny OTHER Northerly neighbor decides to develop (OR for
 40 reasons I won't go into, has his property "seized" [another unbelievably
 41 DANGEROUS Bloomanhour Brainchild, isn't it???] and "given" to some Tri-
 42 County Favorite Son to develop) ...
 43  
 44 ... AND/OR another Very Exclusive development, which adjoins said 
 45 neighbor's undeveloped 3-acre lot decides it wants an "outlet" for its
 46 poorly planned thus congested development and thereby drains its Wash-
 47 inton Co. traffic problems onto us unsuspecting (and much poorer)
 48 Multnomah Co. residents WHO WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, no less (this *HAS*
 49 happened before according to the Ash Creek NA).
 50  
 51 So EVEN THOUGH **I** have no "Clause," any way it comes down, I too would
 52 be outnumbered.
 53  
 54 And this **AFTER** "THEY"'d already STOLEN my front yard to drain said
 55 historic 43-house development to my  South ******PLUS**** an additional
 56 10'x150" easement ... through unbelievably shameful coercion of a 78-yo
 57 woman ... while **TWO** separate lawwyers (which WILL be named, but not
 58 now) for some reason(s) (which I WILL speculate on later) could find no
 59 way to "help."
 60  
 61 ????Did it ever occur to YOU that Earl the Pearl looks just like John-Boy??
 62  
005=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/05/91 22:14  Msg:6643 Call:37673 Lines:18
 63 &*&*&*&*'s
 64 I hate moving.  Though I am happy to have my own place now.  Its a fairly
 65 nice apartment, and only about a half block from were I was living.  I got
 66 the main stuff over here today with a lot of help from friends.  Its going
 67 to take about a billion trips to get the rest of my stuff.
 68  
 69 First thing I brought over was my CD's and CD player.  Next was my 
 70 recording equipment.  Must say something about me.  (Not that it matters
 71 to most of the people reading this.)
 72  
 73 Also bought a couple of really neat toys.  A Used Yamaha PSS-480 synth,
 74 and a Roland TR-505 drum machine.  Both are really nice, and I got a great 
 75 price on them.  All I really need now is a MIDI card for my computer and
 76 I'll have myself a fairly decent home studio. 
 77  
 78 An Astral Dreamer
 79 &*&*&*&*'s  (Now all I have to do is figure out how to use them.)
 80  
006=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/06/91 10:56  Msg:6645 Call:37681 Lines:9
 81  
 82 SoOOooo, McElroy's up for Superintendent, huh?  Now maybe he'll be up for
 83 public scrutiny instead of getting to hid behind Prophet and Board support
 84 ... and the Board will be accountable.  I **AM** sure they're gonna need
 85 someone who will "understand" the workings of Portland and the District ...
 86 and this way, since they don't have the usual BIG bucks, they won't go to
 87 the trouble of doing an extensive/expensive World search only to hire a
 88 Favorite Son anyway.  
 89  
007=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/06/91 19:24  Msg:6651 Call:37690 Lines:9
 90  
 91 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 92 Well, I guess we all got THE WORD from Father Faust.  If you don't like
 93 what your television news broadcasters say, just turn them off.  If you
 94 don't like what The Oregonian says, don't subscribe.  Period.  Ironic
 95 aint it?  And the politicians say, "get an army" and maybe we'll listen.
 96  
 97 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~That's the hit *I* got anyway ...............
 98  
008=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/06/91 20:17  Msg:6652 Call:37691 Lines:6
 99  
100 Not only do we not like it, but the way it's said.  Personally, I'm real
101 tired of the canned blissful-couple conversational news format ... mommy
102 and daddy, if you will ... the gospel according to Julie + Jeff (and Jim,
103 who will provide matchmaking services occasionally <snicker, snicker>).
104  
009=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/07/91 07:27  Msg:6653 Call:37699 Lines:10
105  
106 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
107  
108 While waxing nostalgic about earlly attempts at eating avocados, it 
109 occurred to me how my plans resembled Portland's top-down educational
110 system and her local politicians -- they want you to swallow it whole
111 then regurgitate on command.
112  
113 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
114  
010=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/07/91 13:25  Msg:6654 Call:37703 Lines:56
115  
116 No comment.
117  
118 *************************** Serfer Fershure ***************************
119  
120 EVEN IF new recessionary workplace agenda aren't insulting enough ...
121  
122 .. OR EVEN the sophisticated victimization/violence of those every-
123 growing Cosa Nostra-type business cartels, like maybe our "new" non-profit
124 housing conglomerate ventues where Favorite Son redevelopers are almost 
125 "given" projects (by HUD, which we all finance, don't we???) in those
126 intentionally devitalized areas, then promoted not only as non-profit but
127 LOW INCOME as well ... at $53,000 (like THAT's LOW INCOME???).  I mean,
128 doesn't anybody "do" that math that was crammed down their throat which
129 they were forced to regurgitate at school??? Low income has been established
130 at $13,000 a year for a FAMILY OF **FOUR**.  Monthly mortgage payments
131 would be well oer HALF the monthly pay which, BTW, may not be exactly too
132 monthly in the Tourism business AND
133  
134 ... especially with the stability of those ozone-type labor venture mar-
135 kets -- the mainstay of those proven-effective trickle-down economic
136 theories (the Kiderland kouple might be another swell local example ...
137 how many ventures have they bought and sold over the course of unsaid years??
138 [BTW does anybody know how **I* can start an S&L???] ...
139  
140 ... OR the new labor "contracting" businesses that will become prevalent
141 s employerscan keep large crews part time so as not to have to provide
142 any benefits, thereby not only "enabling" themselves to better enjoy their
143 collective Overloardships, but the housing their workers lose can be 
144 RECYCLED thru the non-profit housing aggregates once again which will,
145 of course, keep the economy moving ...
146  
147 ... AND EVEN IF the proliferation of OTHER equally as ugly partisan plots
148 are "moving" enough, perhaps have our local legal legacies taunted on 
149 such national pageants as the 7:00 sleezecasts or their sensationalized
150 4:00 forerunners SHOULD provide some stimulus for "unloading" at whatever
151 whining pitch ...
152  
153 ... keeping in mind that, like selling a house, you will have to grossly
154 overstate "your asking price" in order to arrive at a "fair" compromise 
155 (which will probably only amount to "being heard") ...
156  
157 Because whatever you think of Tom Metzger and his ilk, the tactics used
158 set a very dangerous precedent; to then "lose" this appeal papers is
159 unbelievable smug (but only too typical).
160  
161 And if THAT doesn't do it for you, the preposterously expensive Franke
162 murder coverup and ensuing tabloid-caliber Gable trial should heighten
163 your worst "fears" (and remember, since "THEY" couldn't unload the en
164 tire bill on the lovely Ms. Steele, WE get to pay "the price" for all
165 that too ... and it WON'T *JUST* be with those big bucks we "donate."
166  
167  
168 *****RIP City, where the VICE presidents have become SoOOooOOoooo
169            progressively sophisticated **********************
170  
011=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/07/91 14:20  Msg:6655 Call:37704 Lines:5
171  
172 And just to prove how powerful they really are, isn't it funny how PGE
173 bought off Frank Zappa just a week prior to airing Jon Tuttle's docou-
174 mentary and having their E-Mail transferred to the DMV?
175  
012=Usr:571 Tomasz Fijak      10/07/91 14:47  Msg:6656 Call:37707 Lines:5
176 I wish the person that knocking the government would stop
177 he's giveing me a headache. Instead of talk for our governments
178 ills ,I think that action is better. So take an asperin and
179 don't call me , I'll send my bill . That sounds like something
180 the doctor would say .No offence Doc.
013=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/07/91 19:32  Msg:6658 Call:37709 Lines:9
181 &*&*&*&*'s
182 The volume is getting rather bothersome.  Especially since I read every 
183 worSometimes there is actually something worth listening to.  It 
184 sure is a lot of work though to get those bits.
185  
186 Oh well, we all have our own means of therapy.
187  
188 An Astral Dreamer
189 &*&*&*&*'s (Day 3 of the move, and no end in sight.)
014=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/08/91 06:36  Msg:6660 Call:37711 Lines:5
190  
191 I would imagine it's alot more work to write them, though.  
192  
193 To each his own, huh?
194  
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195  
196 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
197 re 199
198 But it's a funny thing about this Gretchen/Steve connection. Abt 15 yrs ago
199 I'd been walking downtown after watchingn a friend finish some kind of
200 run (probably the marathon, which is about this same time of year) right
201 behind both of them.  I didn't know who "THEY" were until I was handed a
202 clipboard to sign a petition to legalize marijuana.  I'd noticed the last 
203 name to sign because my sister'd given me a rather expensive-looking blouse
204 with that name in it, and I'd noticed the label said it was made in Portland.
205 And it's funny because it struck me that he reminded me somewhat of Frank
206 Zappa.
207  
208 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Wonders never DO Cease |||||||||||
209  
016=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/08/91 22:01  Msg:6664 Call:37723 Lines:6
210 &*&*&*&*'s
211 Lurking, thats all I have the energy tdo it seems. 
212  
213 An Astral Dreamer
214 &*&*&*&*'s
215  
017=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/09/91 10:10  Msg:6666 Call:37728 Lines:24
216 ********************* And speaking of Marriages & Counseling and all
217  
218 [and i DO realize it WAS probably Frank who "saver" her because that's 
219 ALWAYS been THE Dominant theme in this culture ...}
220  
221 .. but I just "happened" like majik upon a torn bit of paper from lord
222 knows where that had a "piece" about (and I quote) "a report released by
223 four educational associations indicating that evaluation improves teacher 
224 performance and satisfaction ... The report, TEACHER EVALUATION, FIVE KEYS
225 TO GROWTH, is based on the work of [callidge proFESSor'] Richard Stiggins"
226 (unquote) from right here in RIP City, Oregon.
227  
228 Not beings as how that's not a tutally "common" name, I have to Wonder if
229 there is not some relation (marital or otherwise) between Richard and
230 Nancy ... who is (or was) the head of User Services at PPS and a former
231 kindergarten teacher who, together with two music teachers from James 
232 John, "oversaw" district computer education and operation for lord only
233 knows how many thousands of staff members and remains infamous in my mind
234 to this day for imparting such useful information as answering, when I
235 inquired why I couldn't get my thesarus up, "We don't recommend USING a 
236 thesarus [PERIOD ... click]." ...
237  
238 **************************************************************************
239  
018=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  10/09/91 22:43  Msg:6671 Call:37736 Lines:13
240 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
241  
242 'Ever notice the lack of good jokes on this BBS...
243      c'mon guys, give it a try...
244     how about that dirty one -- about the kid who fell in the mud...
245      you can refrain from attacking the target groups though, because I
246     just happen to be a Red-necked, Japanese/Asian Jew-boy who was adopted
247      out of Africa through the "Ethiopian Relief" program by an Arab and 
248     a homosexual Catholic with AID's!!!
249  
250 ...................................................Doctor Duran Duran
251 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
252 end mess.
019=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/10/91 01:10  Msg:6672 Call:37739 Lines:66
253  
254 Well gee, sooooorrrRRyy ... but I think these city hierarchies ARE a joke.  
255 It may not be funny, but it IS a joke.
256  
257 #################### Maybe I CAN make a Federal Case of it ################
258  
259 Huh, **MAYBE** I'm in luck, what with the raging fray about sexual harass-
260 ment [expanded to include sex/age discrimination] and all.  Even though all
261 such charges had always seemed to have a history of MISuse against inten-
262 tionally targeted "undesirables" at PPS (or MISFITS if you will), to the
263 seemingly great peril of all now seriously "at risk" male teachers (and 
264 THANKS, I believe, maily to phony "intervention" by MY union), to say 
265 nothing of the rather secretive, in-house arraignment methods, I did hazard
266 to report some of my VALID claims in this regard, including my own personal
267 efforts AND outrageous outcomes of such effort ... which SHOULD become evi-
268 dent on even a cursory examination of my personnel file(s) and information
269 submitted to my union.  And although I'd listed any number of incidents of 
270 all such abuse in my extensive documentation submitted to the Board of 
271 Education, there ARE even more; some that can probably be very easily AND
272 *estensively* verified (such as the vile sexist/racist joke this same 
273 repeat and sustained [and previously indicted??] offender told me in the
274 presence of another secretary and some specialists, a phenomenon I discussed
275 with the secretary later).  But I've heard nary a word from the Board, even
276 though I submitted much the same information TWICE.
277  
278 I also DID seek legal assistance from a highly-endorsed local attorney 
279 (whose secretary, TTW, had coincidentally ALSO worked for the district
280 <grin> ... HONEST, she *HAD* {AND there were OTHER coincidences as well]), 
281 but his practice was limited strictly to workmen's comp issues and the
282 outcome of a stress claim would only have served to place me back into
283 the same monsterous, scandalous environment without REALLY addressing my
284 concerns.  I would then have had to obtain additional assistance [thus
285 GAMBLING away my retirement] to cover all the other issues (and there were
286 alot of them) ... and hat with the Stacked Deck local legal system and
287 the circus atmosphere of too many courtrooms (as so poignantly pointed 
288 out by the juror from Lake Oswego and some other famous cases lately) 
289 *PLUS* the known/feared power-base of the district AND board, I didn't 
290 care to waste THAT just to be further humiliated and, probably, further
291 officiall Blacklisted as an even WORSE troublemaker (if that's possible).
292  
293 I also DID consider the EEOC because, at the very least, the lawyer would
294 be from out of town and not enmeshed in he local tangled-web hierarchy.
295 But I'd also been told THAT option was equally as treacherous as the EEOC
296 had a horrendous history regarding their beneficial support and actual
297 assistance.  Even though from one lengthy conversation with them they DID
298 sound "interested" and stated not only that I could probably get the
299 older WP allegations covered through a "history of abuse" claim, but 
300 could also probably hold the Board accountable, I decided not to submit 
301 any further information to them either. From the sound of it now, I WAS
302 probably wise not to trust them.
303  
304 And since I had once previously testifed for somebody else before the
305 State Labor Commission (that we all PAY to handle such injustices), I
306 *KNEW* "THEY" weren't there to support us poor, taxpaying victims but
307 our much wealthier, more powerful employers ... which, in THAT case,
308 was a local large oil dealer owned by some historic city pillars.
309  
310 But in choosing to simply rant relentlessly & spout off at every even
311 remotely conceivable opportunity, even though I'm not GAMBLING my
312 retirement money, I do suppose I'm setting myself up for other abominable
313 atrocities (like for instance I hope **I'm** not hit by a bus).  But we
314 shall see, huh?  I just hope other innocents aren't suffering further
315 abuse due to my somewhat reckless-seeming pursuits.
316  
317 #########################################################################
318  
020=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/11/91 07:50  Msg:6676 Call:37771 Lines:3
319  
320 Lurk?
321  
021=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/11/91 18:44  Msg:6677 Call:37778 Lines:41
322 &*&*&*&*'s
323 (lets try a stab at fiction here.)
324  
325 Wordplay ran through my mind as I traveled the path that day.  The words
326 have left me, and all that remains are a few fuzzy images.  My memory has
327  
328 never been my strongest point.
329  
330 My destination was something of a mystery to me.  It wasn't that I had no idea.
331 I did in fact have a fairly good one.  There were a limited number of choices.
332 It was part of this personal little ritual though that I did not decide until
333 the very last instant.  Life in those days was dull, and even a contrived 
334 mystery was a welcome diversion.
335  
336 Though the words may be fuzzy, I do remember the nature of the game.  Take 
337 a word, for instance apples.  Now, how many other words can you find in there?
338 And what sorts of rymes can you come up with after compiling these words.  It
339 can make for some interesting verse.  It pleases me to know that amongst the
340 chaos of this method, there is just a bit of order.
341  
342 I was always trying to find order in chaos, though it ill fit my nature in
343 many ways.  The town came into sight, and it was time for my first decision.
344 This one was in fact the easiest.  It simply consisted of wether I would
345 actually enter the town, or wether I would turn about and return to my
346 home.  The two hour walk made it unlikely that I would choose the later,
347 and in fact, I never had.  Though I believed that someday I would.  In any
348 case, that particular I decided to continue my journey.
349  
350 I walked first to the center of the town.  It was not a long walk, perhaps five
351 minutes. The streets were crowded with people going about their business, and
352 here and there children played.  At the center of the town was a large courtyar
353 perhaps one hundred and fifty feet on a side, and in its center was a fountain.
354 How the fountain worked was something of a mystery, but work it did, and nobody
355 was willing to risk breaking it meerly to satisfy idle curiosity.
356 Which was something of a shame, as I was anxious to learn its secrets.
357  
358 I'd reached the next decision point.  
359  
360 An Astral Dreamer
361 &*&*&*&*'s (00)
362  
022=Usr:131 THE VISION        10/12/91 05:00  Msg:6678 Call:37783 Lines:11
363 ___________________________T H E  V I S I O N_____________________________
364  
365 Hello AD!  A *Great* beginning there buddy! :) It's good to see something
366 creative on here other than rambling and bitching....
367 Hey good to hear about that equipment you've invested in!! That's a
368 step in the right direction. Now you've got the lyrics and the equip-
369 ment and some knowledge of the writing part. Some music theory lessons
370 couldn't hurt. Good luck in any way though :)
371  
372 ___________________________________________________________The Vision_____
373  
023=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/12/91 06:08  Msg:6679 Call:37785 Lines:12
374  
375 Interesting confirmation hearings.  And nice THEY were able to set Thomas up
376 for prime time last night.  In his testimony earlier, he stated at the ripe
377 old age of 33, he had always acted like a "father" to his staff ... Ms. Hill
378 was 25 at the time.  And besides, his good buddy who was networked into his
379 old position at the Department of Education could verify any of his state-
380 ments against Ms. Hill.  Tight little group ... and a bit cocky if you ask 
381 me.  And to have a judge (with all of two years experience) state he didn't
382 listen to the testimony because it was all just lies ... period.  We should
383 all be real comfortable giving him a lifetime seat on the highest court in
384 the land.  I think we're REALLY doomed if he's confirmed.  
385  
024=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/12/91 21:41  Msg:6680 Call:37791 Lines:6
386 &*&*&*&*'s
387 TV, its been awhile.  How are things?
388  
389 An Astral Dreamer
390 &*&*&*&*'s (I'm through typing now.)
391  
025=Usr:267 phoenix polymorp  10/13/91 00:12  Msg:6681 Call:37792 Lines:1
392 Phoenix Lurk
026=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/13/91 18:25  Msg:6683 Call:37804 Lines:6
393 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
394 Good lord ... quite the dysfunctional EEOC office staff, I'd say.  I hope
395 the soaps take up some of these topics.
396  
397 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ and on, and on, and on, and on ...
398  
027=Usr:92 Katherine Dohert  10/13/91 20:13  Msg:6684 Call:37809 Lines:2
399 *******************tryinglikeh*llnottobecomeinvolvedwiththosestupidhearings****
400 **************************************************kathyD***********************
028=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  10/13/91 23:04  Msg:6686 Call:37810 Lines:23
401 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
402  
403 Hey AD, I'm going to have to agree with that line about the "soaps" getting
404      in on it all!!!  WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
405     
406 I CANNOT BELIEVE I AM PAYING A FEDERAL TAX OUT OF MY PAY FOR THESE FUC*ING
407  
408 IDIOTS TO WASTE TIME ON ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
409  
410 IF THESE UNITED STATES HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TO HAVE THESE HEARINGS,
411  
412 THEN I WONDER WHAT TOMORROW HAS IN STORE FOR US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
413  
414 I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL TRY TO GET SOME REAL JOBS -- MAYBE SOME
415  
416 CONSTRUCTION WORK; OR BETTER YET, SOME JANITORIAL WORK -- THEY ARE ALL GOING
417  
418 TO HAVE TO DO A LOT OF CLEANING UP AFTER THIS WHOLE THING BLOWS OVER!!!!!!!
419  
420  
421 ..............................................(A SICK) Doctor Duran Duran
422 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
423 end mess.
029=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/13/91 23:20  Msg:6687 Call:37811 Lines:11
424  
425 Just hope the Bush League doesn't DO for Education what it's done for
426 Equal Opportunity.
427  
428 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
429  
430 Hey Kathy D ... I think you've just missed some of the BEST entertainment of
431 the year.  I can't quit laughing.  Guess we'll have to forgive Biden, huh? 
432 And perhaps commend the Honorable? Senators for being able to keep a straight
433 face???  I don't think a movie could top that performance.
434  
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435  
436 %<%<%<%<%<%%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<%<
437  
438 Rather than looking at sexual harassment in the workplace, maybe we could
439 just label it "gangsterism."  See, I don't think it's JUST men, the abuse
440 of woman against other women is almost worse and the Athenahood CAN abso-
441 lutely destroy a man ... but it's usually the wrong one.  From what *I've*
442 experienced of abuse in the workplace, women tend to "flock" around the 
443 "abusers" and create "office wife"-type relationships in order to get what
444 they want.  And it always seems the problem is compounded when you have a
445 Great Father at the top who "believes" he's creating that "happy American
446 family" workforce ... those families that are, according to statistics, 
447 primarily dysfunctional (97.3%).   If nothing else, I do think the sexual
448 harassment portion of the confirmation hearings, was a definitive study of
449 the American workplace.  
450  
451 %>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>>%>%>%>%>%>>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>%>>%>%>
452  
453  
454 BTW, someone called C-Span to state Sen. John Danforth is related to 
455 Oliver North .... but what about J. Danforth Quayle <- is this a coin-
456 cidence or what?
457  
031=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/14/91 12:02  Msg:6689 Call:37822 Lines:19
458 &*&*&*&*'s
459 The soap comment wasn't mine, but I agree with it.
460  
461 I don't believe that ones gender has anything to do with ones honousty and
462 morality.  I'd bet there are atleast as many dysfunctional woman out there
463 as there are men.  One of the things that has always annoyed me about
464 all the male bashing is that these woman don't seem to realize that the
465 stereo typical mocho male bulshit is just as big a pain in the ass for
466 a significant number of men.  If your wimpy/nerdy/shy and hetero, be 
467 prepared for a life of hell.  Most males pick on you because your the 
468 victom type, and most females treat you like dirt because your not the
469 macho type.
470  
471 Most of this comes early on, and by the late teens people mellow a
472 good deal.  To bad the damage is already done by then.
473  
474 An Astral Dreamer
475 &*&*&*&*'s (We swim the stream of a thousand dreams, the home hidden meaning.)
476  
032=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/15/91 08:56  Msg:6691 Call:37834 Lines:6
477 &*&*&*&*'s
478 Yo, has everybody forgotten how to type en?
479  
480 An Astral Dreamer
481 &*&*&*&*'s (Life, the final frontier.)
482  
033=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/15/91 17:51  Msg:6693 Call:37848 Lines:6
483  
484 Sorry AD. I, for one, was tied up all day watching the debate.  I thought 
485 about your entry all last night and when I went off into the ozone during 
486 the debates today.  I do want to respond, but not now.  I am going to go
487 eat dinner NOW.  
488  
034=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  10/15/91 22:45  Msg:6694 Call:37854 Lines:13
489 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
490  
491 Wellllllll, IT'S ALL OVER <gasp> <gasp> <gasp>
492      HE MADE IT IN <gasp> <gasp> <gasp> <gasp> <gasp> <gasp>
493  
494 This whole nomination process was somewhat of a bureaucratic orgasm, was
495      it not???
496  
497 'Kinda wondering what the "HOT TOPIC" will be next week, eh???
498  
499 .....................................................Doctor Duran Duran
500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
501 end mess.
035=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/16/91 08:25  Msg:6697 Call:37861 Lines:9
502  
503 My friend and I are having a raging battle over this weekend's Senate
504 Superbowl and the facial coutours of the distinguished Mr. Hatch, Mr.
505 Spectacle and the wonderful Mrs. Thomas.  I maintain that the formations
506 on the side of Mr. Hatches mouth, the entire jaw of Mr. Specter, and
507 under the left lip of Mrs. Thomas were musculature formed from pontifi-
508 cating, scowling and pouting (pouting especially for Mrs. Thomas) while
509 We my friend thinks it's merely fat deposits.  We also speculate about Sen.
510  
036=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/16/91 08:50  Msg:6698 Call:37862 Lines:6
511 Danforth's twitching lips, kinda like mouthing all the words to himself like
512 the kid on the Wheat Chex commercial.  I guess it keeps us from thinking
513 about the horrible icy stonewalling cynicism of the whole ordeal that would 
514 take months to sort out.  I would imaginge Mrs. Thomas' cult training 
515 probably helped out to some extent.
516  
037=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/16/91 13:05  Msg:6699 Call:37868 Lines:1
517 w@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
038=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/16/91 14:46  Msg:6701 Call:37870 Lines:9
518  
519 &>&>&>&>&>&>&>&>&>&&>&>&>&>&>&>&>&>&>&
520  
521 Since Hatfield thinks something needs to be done, maybe I'll take my
522 stuff down there and requrest a pro bono attorney.  I certainly have
523 alot of written documentation on charges other than just harassment.
524  
525 &<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<&<
526  
039=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/16/91 20:17  Msg:6702 Call:37873 Lines:8
527 &*&*&*&*'s
528 I feel a deep sense of forboding...
529  
530 Or maybe its just that soup I had for dinner.
531  
532 An Astral Dreamer
533 &*&*&*&*'s (Life is just a varitation on a theme.)
534  
040=Usr:576 Robert Doherty    10/16/91 21:42  Msg:6704 Call:37874 Lines:2
535  Did you here tAnita Hill is thinking about changing her last name to "Job"
536 Just say it to your self several times.... nita Job...Anita Job....Anita Job..
041=Usr:610 Peace             10/17/91 01:24  Msg:6706 Call:37879 Lines:31
537 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ been lurking long enough $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
538 Thinking about it, if this is all the sludge they could haul out to drag
539 Thomas through, he's probably pretty cool for the job.
540  
541 On to other things...
542 The cold turn of the weather today awakened my heart and she had something
543 to say for a change, so I thought I'd share it with you.
544  
545 _Storm Summoning_
546  
547 I sing a call
548 A call to rains
549 That they may fall
550 on our barren plains
551 On my city, gold and green
552 Rinsing sins and blessings clean
553  
554 Rise the waters and come down
555 Rise the winds, blow through town
556 Making mockeries of men's pride
557 Wash away glories with your tide
558 Show the breathing, whirling sky
559 To the weakling mortal's eye
560  
561 Deep turmoil blackened cloud
562 Cover city in your shroud
563 Whip the body, freeze the soul
564 Raging with eternal cold
565  
566 I'm not a poet. I'm just guessing.
567 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ peace $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
042=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  10/17/91 21:44  Msg:6709 Call:37891 Lines:9
568 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
569  
570 BRAVO!!!  I love it!!!  It had that "thing" to it -- that "ring-a-ling-type-
571      thing" to it...hopefully, Mother Nature won't waste any time on
572     bringing us, Oregonians, some REAL rain...'fingers are crossed!!!
573  
574 .....................................................Doctor Duran Duran
575 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
576 end mess.
043=Usr:530 Jessie a.         10/18/91 05:10  Msg:6710 Call:37897 Lines:15
577 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!
578 There is a new, quarterly magazine that will be published in Portland,
579 called Glimmer Train, that uses short stories. It pays 300 dollars plus
580 the traditional complementary copies for first publication and anthology
581 rights. If a story is chosen for publication in their anthology they pay
582 an additional 300 dollars. They ask that you include a SASE with your story.
583   
584 The address is Glimmer Train
585 
586 Portland, OR  97205
587   
588 The first issue comes out in November.
589 Jessie
590  
591 *!*!*!*!*!*!*!
044=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/18/91 05:27  Msg:6711 Call:37898 Lines:5
592  
593 If only I could write ... I'd do a story on Bob Williams.  (I'd also send
594 it to Prophet to see if he'd change his mind (like LEe Atwater or whatever
595 his name was]).
596  
045=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/18/91 08:18  Msg:6712 Call:37901 Lines:5
597  
598 Maybe a story could be "edited" though.  Apt characterizations of any PPS
599 Staff Member from Hell could be submitted in private mail to Chemo Sabe.
600 <grin>
601  
046=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par  10/18/91 19:31  Msg:6715 Call:37912 Lines:17
602 *)_$*#@$*$*()_*%#*^!#$*)_$(!($#*%$^&)_*^$*^)_$($(@*)%^$)*_)(#()_$*@#)*%)_(%)(%@
603 Many things to many people:
604  
605 Mikey: Did shawni get that list of disks I need to you? Good old Delta V wants 
606 to join the archivers, which means the original people should all get approx
607 $5.12435465443 dollars back. Approximately...
608 AD: I got your email about the 3/160 offer... I will run it by them, but are
609 you sure you want such a heavy and loud machine. Do the elevators in that Apt
610 building of yours work? I sure hope so if this deal gets through. If you get
611 this, you won't have more computers than I but you will have far more fans (the
612 electric type).
613 voyeur: Are you out there? Resume was rumored to be delivered. How about your
614 computer?
615 Robert D: Hey, glad to see you on here! We may disagree about the Hill thing,
616 but we do agree on one other thing: I NEED A VACATION!
617 *(%@#)(%_)@#(%)_(+!@_%*@#+_%(@#_+*(@# L'homme sans Parity *$_*)$*()_&*%#*)%@%*_
618  
047=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/18/91 21:17  Msg:6716 Call:37913 Lines:3
619  
620 Lurk.  And remember, when the going gets rough it's easier to be a fascist.
621  
048=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/18/91 21:56  Msg:6717 Call:37915 Lines:2
622 Besides god-duh WANTS it that way.
623  
049=Usr:92 Katherine Dohert  10/18/91 22:24  Msg:6718 Call:37917 Lines:1
624 ******justtheusualstuff***ieee****kathyD**********************************
050=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  10/18/91 23:51  Msg:6719 Call:37920 Lines:9
625 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
626  
627 Burrr...sure is chilly out there at night -- then, it's warm during the day.
628      Has anybody seen the rain???  I used to think that our state received
629     a lot of rainfall...has anybody seen the rain???  Shiver me timbers!!!
630  
631 ...................................................Doctor Duran Duran
632 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
633 end mess.
051=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/19/91 00:45  Msg:6720 Call:37921 Lines:8
634 &*&*&*&*'s
635 L'homme,  The elevator works.  As for the noise and such, I was thinking of 
636 sticking it in my living room.  180 pounds is a lot.  12 VME slots.  
637 Fun stuff.
638  
639 An Astral Dreamer
640 &*&*&*&*'s (Havn't forgotten the story.)
641  
052=Usr:54 George Freemont   10/19/91 15:49  Msg:6722 Call:37930 Lines:7
642 Jessie,
643  
644 Any idea of the editor's name for Glimmer, or the person we should address
645 our stories to?  Thanks.
646  
647 Melvin Bellsmith
648 *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_
053=Usr:609 Doctor Duran Dur  10/19/91 23:33  Msg:6723 Call:37935 Lines:16
649 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
650  
651 I REALLY have enjoyed the BBS, here, but now it's time to say adieu for a
652      long while...
653 Everyone who has entered a line, or two, of their "side of the story" has
654      given me another side to the "truth of the matter" -- a many thanx!!!
655 You are all very creative and visionary -- what this world needs is a 
656      helluva lot more people like yourselves!!!
657 In fact, I hope to run into someone of that nature in the future -- it's
658      nice to know there is always someone out there with the same interests.
659 Again, a many thanx to all your input -- you have expanded my views and
660      enlightened my thoughts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
661  
662 ....................................................Doctor Duran Duran
663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IN THE EYES OF A STRANGER<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
664 end mess.
054=Usr:13 voyeur            10/20/91 00:01  Msg:6725 Call:37936 Lines:7
665 :::::::O O:::::::::00:54::::::::::::::::::::::::::10/20:::::::O O:::::::::::::
666 L'homme - the machine is in pieces, awaiting your magical input to restore it.
667 Most any date, I'll toss it into my car and boogie on over.
668 (I just put a scanner and SatisFAXtion board in it, and it hasn't been reburied
669  on my desk, so it's relatively easily moved right now.  I guess we need to set
670  a date/time.  Just about anything works for me, unfortunately...)
671 :::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::
055=Usr:530 Jessie a.         10/20/91 05:33  Msg:6726 Call:37939 Lines:10
672 *!*!*!*!*!*!
673 Melvin, I just dug the postcard about Glimmer Trin out of my garbage,
674 Sorry...it does not seem to give an editors name. But it is a local 
675 publicati, you could call information and have them give you the number
676 for this and call them up. The notice came to my house on this as a 
677 solicitation for subscriptions with the small note at the bottom to writers.
678 On it was a place to note if I wrote short stories myself as well as the 
679 normal subscription stuff.
680 Jessie
681 *!*!*!*!*!*!
056=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/20/91 09:19  Msg:6728 Call:37942 Lines:8
682 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
683 I'm proud to report, from yet another recent excursion downtown, that the 
684 all those bushes they whacked along the freeway have NOW been yanked
685 entirely.  I wonder if they died from improper pruning or were yanked 
686 because "the bums" were sleeping there anyway.  
687  
688 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I guess I shouldn't GO downtown ....
689  
057=Usr:92 Katherine Dohert  10/20/91 15:18  Msg:6729 Call:37952 Lines:13
690 **************************************************************
691 I read an article today in the Oregonia about some "kids" in Washington
692 that cut the ears of f of a couple of cats.  Something about showing
693 them (the cat ears) to a lady after she refused to buy magazine
694 subscriptions.  The ears(cats) used to belong to her neighbor's cats.
695 They found on e of the kitties and it is being treated, the other
696 one hasn't shown up yet.  
697  
698 I think that is totally pathetic, what is wrong with thopse (sp)
699 guys?  Brain tumors or something?  I won't even mention the
700 weirdo down in Tes (whoops again) Texas who shot all of those 
701 people.
702 *****startingto feelnumb*******kathyD******************************
058=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/21/91 05:33  Msg:6732 Call:37964 Lines:9
703  
704 ######################################
705  
706 Well obviously these types are genetically inferior.  Hopefully research
707 coming out of UW will point the way to enabling us to exterminate these 
708 types at birth.
709  
710 ################################### ... if not sooner
711  
059=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/21/91 09:47  Msg:6734 Call:37968 Lines:5
712  
713 Big Berkeley's burning now.  What with Spokane and all, the west coast's
714 gonna look like Q-wait.  If this keeps up, our insurance companies will go 
715 belly up next.
716  
060=Usr:92 Katherine Dohert  10/21/91 18:16  Msg:6736 Call:37975 Lines:6
717 *************************************************************
718 In nature, fire is cleansing, maybe this is a cosmic hint
719 re: fires in Spokane, S.F., Falls, Oakridge. et al
720  
721 I still am perplexed about the cat ears....
722 *****************kathyD**************************************
061=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/21/91 22:53  Msg:6737 Call:37996 Lines:7
723 &*&*&*&*'s
724 kathyD, RE: the cat ears.  Maybe some people are just born that way.
725 Not much of an answer I guess.
726  
727 An Astral Dreamer
728 &*&*&*&*'s
729  
062=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/22/91 13:28  Msg:6738 Call:38005 Lines:7
730  
731 We're brought up to believe we're ALL born that way; we only become civilized 
732 through indoctrination and conditioning.  But numbing is a good word ... 1800
733 homes + 400 apartments <- is that apartment BUILDINGS or apartments in build-
734 ings??  It's hard to begin to imagine... if Portland, if there's about 25
735 houses to a city block, that would be 72 blocks (if I DID my math correctly).
736  
063=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/22/91 14:32  Msg:6739 Call:38008 Lines:18
737 &*&*&*&*'s
738 I see nothing wrong with giving kids guidlines.  Its just a matter of how
739 far you go.  Teaching a kid to respect others even if they disagree with
740 them for instance doesn't seem like a bad thing.  Teaching them to take
741 responsibility for their own actions (A lesson Ronny and Olly never
742 got tought.), not to mention giving them a sense of the repurcusions of 
743 their actions.
744  
745 I suspect that if you love and respect your children, and let them be
746 their own persons, then things will work out.  If they don't, then 
747 there are atleast two possibilities.  1, you didn't do as well as you
748 thought you were, or 2, the kid has a problem such as being hyperactive,
749 dyslexic, etc.
750  
751 An Astral Dreamer
752 &*&*&*&*'s (The world is a simple place.  We make it look complex to cover
753 our asses.)
754  
064=Usr:610 Peace             10/22/91 22:29  Msg:6742 Call:38013 Lines:3
755 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
756 Hey LOOK! It worked!!!! Not enough, but a little bit...
757 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Peace $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
065=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/23/91 00:35  Msg:6744 Call:38015 Lines:13
758  
759 So THAT's why Mary Starret glared into the cameras for those two weeks
760 before she and the ever-casual Boz took the hordes to Disneyland ... she 
761 wasn't GETTING any!  Gee, I thought it was just station gangsterism or 
762 infighting over putting Jim on the morning news for a week or two.
763  
764 The sexual stereotyping generalities program tomorrow should prove
765 enlightening.
766  
767 So did Mary get married or what??? I remember a conversation about her
768 having a "friend" but didn't realize it was SERIOUS <grin>.  If not, I
769 don't think the Surgeon General would approve.
770  
066=Usr:604 Chemo Sabe        10/23/91 14:13  Msg:6746 Call:38020 Lines:9
771  
772 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wonderful! It was just a tacky teaser
773  
774 "WE" must be improving.  The program WASN'T stilted mechanized or trivialized
775 sex.  There was actually some grace to it.  Maybe when the system goes bank-
776 rupt humans get real.  There may be Hope.
777  
778 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And MAry IS wearing a ring ... Not that it matters
779  
067=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/23/91 16:43  Msg:6747 Call:38025 Lines:9
780  
781 More snatches from the snarewaves .... Two flashes regarding electonic messages
782 in ONE day.  I've never heard anything about this on TV before.  Funny.  The 
783 1st was on c-span with people from Prodigy and the Antidefamation League.
784 The second was kinda funny ... Microsoft billionaires are paranoid about a 
785 disabled disgrundled former female employee and her electronic messages.
786  
787 Was KATU the only station to carry this?  Does Microsoft OWN KATU?
788  
068=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/24/91 10:49  Msg:6749 Call:38037 Lines:11
789  
790 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On THAT teaser, I thought it was gonna be
791  
792 a different kind of harassment.  I think some secretary should sue for being 
793 harassed with computer responsibility.  Where I worked we were given extreme-
794 ly poor and conflicting and DANGEROUS information, and yet we were responsible
795 to others for our use of those infernal MAChines.  I have to wonder how many
796 OTHER secretaries have have to deal with terrorist tactics with regard to 
797 their use of computers.  I've always thought there ought to be LAWS (even tho
798 it's too bad there is a NEED for such laws) ...
799  
069=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/26/91 08:19  Msg:6750 Call:38060 Lines:4
800  
801 Not even a LURK???  Geesh.  I'm off over the mts and won't be entertaining
802 this weekend, so keep those fearmoans going, okay.
803  
070=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/26/91 14:05  Msg:6751 Call:38063 Lines:7
804 &*&*&*&*'s
805 Thought for the day: "Its all a bit confusing, it doesn't make much sense.
806 At the end we may find it, but for now we're just to dense."
807  
808 An Astral Dreamer
809 &*&*&*&*'s (Reaching new levels of lameness all the time.)
810  
071=Usr:131 THE VISION        10/28/91 12:58  Msg:6753 Call:38087 Lines:5
811  
812 AD: You are so very wise man. It seems like you're one of the few
813 people here who's got their head screwed on tight.
814 -TV
815  
072=Usr:131 THE VISION        10/29/91 02:01  Msg:6757 Call:38124 Lines:1
816  
073=Usr:186 Wesley Smith      10/29/91 18:39  Msg:6758 Call:38141 Lines:1
817 I would like to take the time to wish every one a happy Haloween, have a
074=Usr:131 THE VISION        10/29/91 19:35  Msg:6759 Call:38142 Lines:3
818 Hmmmmmmmmm....have a what??? A raging party??? Hahahah j/k :)
819  
820  THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK
075=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/29/91 22:42  Msg:6760 Call:38149 Lines:10
821 &*&*&*&*'s
822 Thanks TV.  Maybe thats why it always seems to be on the edge of 
823 exploding.  1/2 :-)
824  
825 Sigh, I'm starting to feel like an outcast again.
826  
827 An Astral Dreamer
828 &*&*&*&*'s  (Value is a relative thing.  If we don't see any, there 
829 isn't any.)
830  
076=Usr:219 Friar Mossback    10/30/91 07:18  Msg:6761 Call:38155 Lines:4
831 [[[[[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
832 Perception is reality.
833 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]  Friar   [][][][][][][][][][][][][]
834  
077=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/30/91 10:28  Msg:6762 Call:38160 Lines:9
835  
836 WRONG AGAIN, AD.  THEY've tried to make the homless invisible by corraling
837 them out to hide in other neighborhoods, but their value is STILL the same ..
838 they're intentionally "maintained" by society make the poor feel better ...
839 that at least they're NOT on the streets.  So don't let THEM tell you the
840 the homeless are worthless bums, okay?  As we increasingly discover, THEY are
841 are the worthless bums.
842  
843  
078=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/30/91 10:41  Msg:6763 Call:38161 Lines:5
844 .......... I think GAG orders are enforced by TWISTING heads on too tight
845  
846           Like they are where YOU work, AD.
847  
848  
079=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/30/91 14:15  Msg:6764 Call:38164 Lines:13
849 &*&*&*&*'s
850 Re: the homeless.  People keep wishing they'll go away.  Silly really.
851 I don't know what the answer is.  I do agree that chasing them
852 from one neighborhood to another don't work.  And, as for those is 
853 charge being evil, I think it far more likely that they are just
854 stupid.
855  
856 Re: where I work.  It is absurd in the extreme to try to put a consistent
857 face on an organization the size of PPS.  
858  
859 An Astral Dreamer
860 &*&*&*&*'s (Somehow, somewhere there is something missing.)
861  
080=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/30/91 17:43  Msg:6765 Call:38171 Lines:8
862  
863 You don't have to look to much farther than the top, AD.  And BTW, wasn't
864 that one of the district's FINEST on Julie+Jeff's airport story on KATU 
865 tonight???  AND you d*** well better make sure you're home computer's in
866 order, if you know what I mean.  Seems like the young Mr. Allen has the
867 Department on the warpath re:computer crime.  THEY could break into YOUR
868 house possibly anytime now.
869  
081=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/30/91 20:35  Msg:6766 Call:38172 Lines:9
870 &*&*&*&*'s
871 I don't watch TV, so I don't know.  Whats this computer thing?  If
872 anybody F*cks around with my stuff without a warent, they might find
873 themselves breathing out of a new hole in their heads, or flying out my 
874 window head first.
875  
876 An Astral Dreamer
877 &*&*&*&*'s (Whats mine is mine.)
878  
082=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/30/91 21:13  Msg:6767 Call:38174 Lines:25
879  
880 OhhhhHHHhh, tough words, those AD.  That's the spirit.  In answer to your 
881 first dotted query about what missing, I think Rick Meyer's editoral of the
882 same news?cast stated it as credible leadership ... he mentioned district 
883 officials among those (and I suppose he was including the Board).  I was 
884 also just informed that Randi Nailon-Posts quit and Susan Larsen has usurped
885 that position and that Avis Austad is now part of that PFT-CE conspiracy.
886 Avis is the one who "accidently" didn't order me a hard disk when she 
887 ordered one for everyone else, even though I was the only one who had been
888 using a computer.  Carlos Taylor had to come over and settle THAT one. Avis
889 was pissed because even though she'd blackmailed Rich Cole into buying 
890 $3,500 dedicated word processor for her and another secretary in order not
891 to have to learn to use a computer, the rest of the department voted in
892 computers.  As it ended up, the value ofo the expensive machines was nil ...
893 and I suppose they were pawned off to some unsuspecting SCHOOL.  Avis left
894 the department when Rich left in some kind of musical chairs exercise they
895 left EVERYONE in awe.  I think I've gone into all this before.  Left me just
896 say I really feel sorry for all Classified employees in the district depend-
897 ing on THAT kind of gamesmanship/leadership.  Those women are TREACHEROUS.
898  
899 I SHOULD go back and correct those errors BUT I'm on extended "vacation" 
900 and you KNOW what I mean anyway, even if you're under gag orders (your boss
901 is also on my list of real winners ... I've got some SWELL stories about
902 him).
903  
083=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/30/91 21:28  Msg:6768 Call:38175 Lines:11
904  
905 And about the computer thing ... KATU (who's OWNED by Paul Allen, I'm sure)
906 had a byte about how Portland police are gearing up to crack down on computer
907 "crime" ... like those hardcore criminals who conduct drug deals on the
908 computer [<- like we're STUPID enough to swallow that???  I'm just SURE 
909 these professionals are doing business on bbs's where they can so easily be
910 traced to home phone numbers ?????????] and those "selling" child pron???
911 They complete the report by saying business loses $5 billion a year (can't
912 you see Gates&Allen just drooling over THAT).  Time to get a modem for the
913 MAC I'd say and sell my WORD software.  
914  
084=Usr:131 THE VISION        10/31/91 00:36  Msg:6769 Call:38179 Lines:3
915  
916 hahahahahahahahaaha :)
917  
085=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/31/91 08:44  Msg:6770 Call:38183 Lines:11
918 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Needing a new operating environment......
919  
920 So what's the upshot on the Coliseum?? Do we GIVE Mr. Allen the Coliseum
921 PLUS $34 million to build a new Blazer arena, or did THEY decide to just
922 give him the money straight out.  Let's see, that's a million a year just
923 to keep the Blazers here.  I guess THEY think it's needed to support the
924 communal Blazermania habit.
925  
926  
927 But just think of all those below-minimum-wage jobs it could create.
928  
086=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/31/91 08:55  Msg:6771 Call:38184 Lines:15
929 &*&*&*&*'s
930 Ah, a police sting operation.  Somehow I doubt they'll catch the real
931 criminals, sincethe FBI didn't seem to hve much luck.  No to mention
932 any number of other federal and state organizations.
933  
934 There are just to many ways to avoid detection.  I suppose I should ber
935 carefull about what I say.  I don't know all that much about the subject,
936 but no doubt I could be strung up just for mentioning knowledge of its
937 existence.
938  
939  
940 Thats just the way it goes I guess.  
941  
942 An Astral Dreamer
943 &*&*&*&*'s (Ignorence and stupidity, just say no!)
087=Usr:322 Stray Cat         11/02/91 15:04  Msg:6773 Call:38219 Lines:10
944  
945 Hmmmmmm, well said AD, especially about just saying no.  But tell me, Oh
946 Brilliant One, how does "business" lose $5 million a year to computer drug
947 and child porn dealers?  Enlighten me, if you would ... BTW, it looks like 
948 former Parkrose Student is saying NO to the above and pressing a suit against
949 that district's administrators for their Stupidity and Ignorance.  He's a 
950 "reformed" gang member; evidently He figured out WHY gangs and drugs appealed 
951 to him.  Maybe the same will happen to PPS; and mayhaps it could be traced
952 straight back to the "top."
953  
088=Usr:322 Stray Cat         11/02/91 15:11  Msg:6774 Call:38220 Lines:4
954  
955 uh, excuse ... once more, that should be BILLIONS <pant pant, drool drool>
956 **NOT** Million.
957  
089=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  11/03/91 12:41  Msg:6775 Call:38231 Lines:9
958 &*&*&*&*'s
959 I havn't the slightest.  The problem with most computer crime clean ups is
960 that the people in charge don't have clue one as to what is going on.  Its
961 sort of having a deaf person review music.  They can feel the beat, but they
962 don't have clue one as to how the rest of the song goes.
963  
964 An Astral Dreamer
965 &*&*&*&*'s (Nothing more to say today.)
966  
090=Usr:131 THE VISION        11/03/91 15:33  Msg:6776 Call:38233 Lines:10
967 ___________________________T H E  V I S I O N______________________
968 AD! - How are ya? :) Is Atarwin II still up? If so, it must be real
969 popular because it is *always* busy...even at odd hours of the
970 night. I've been trying to reach you on there. Oh well. Also, to
971 CM or anybody...any ideas how I can upload or get copies of the
972 archives of BWMSII? I'd like to re-live the old days. Anyhow, take
973 it easy all, and don't get too caught up in the crap of the world.
974 If we keep taking it, the gov't. will keep dishin' it out.
975 ______________________________________________________The Vision___
976  
091=Usr:322 Stray Cat         11/04/91 14:29  Msg:6778 Call:38247 Lines:20
977  
978 AD: Is that supposed to explain how "business" loses to computer child porn
979 and drug dealers?  Honestly, I haven't a clue ...
980  
981 I thought the Reynolds football team antics were also amazing.  I see the 
982 ugly attitudes will be perpetuated forever.  The 1963 Lincoln football team
983 very publicly gang-raped a shy lone-wolf type in the same ugly manner.  And
984 thanks to Doug Baker, they became legends in their own time about such prowess.
985 Wonderful what kids learns in schools, isn't it???  These same adolescent boys
986 left school midday en masse to get checked for social disease, and STILL 
987 nothing was ever said or done.  
988  
989 And I suppose this is the time to mention my Pat North story.  The same time
990 I was "told" there was a weird letter in my file by someone I'd never worked
991 for, I was also told an equallyl as weird evaluation by a former PPS employer
992 was also there ... even though I'd made sure I'd checked to see that it WASN'T
993 ... at which time I was told I'd better check another time by a Personnel 
994 employee.  I ended up going over to Personnel with a then-current semi-boss
995 and sure enough the evaluation WAS there but NOT the letter.  Anyway, I had 
996      in on it all!!!  WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
