Note: With this disk, the vandalism started to become a serious
problem. The entire group of original messages on this disk
had been deleted. The result was that BWMS was placed into 
protected mode. That means that once a line was entered in the 
system, it could not be changed. There were still periodic junk 
(empty lines, and foul language) filling up the disk, but a group 
of dedicated users were helping to keep things cleaned up.
 

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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
2 ******************* REMOVED: 3 APR 84 **********************
3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System)  Mike Day System operator
4 ************************************************************
5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
6                     PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
10 privatly owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
18 ************************************************************
19 
20 WELL, IT SEEMS SOMEBODY LET THE CHILDREN OUT.
21 SORRY ABOUT THAT FOLKS, BUT SOMEONE SEEMS TO HAVE DECIDED
22 TO DESTROY ALL OF THE MESSAGES THAT WERE HERE.
23 IF SOMEONE HAS A COPY OF IT, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED IF YOU COULD
24 DOWN LOAD IT TO BW IF YOU CAN.  I AM AMAZED THAT ANYONE WOULD BE SO CA
25 UNCARING AS TO DESTROY SOMETHING LIKE THIS. PARTICULARLY SINCE IT IS NO
26 GREAT TRICK TO DO SO, SO IT HARDLY PUTS THEM IN THE HACKERS HALL OF FAME
27 IN CRASHING A SYSTEM. THE SYSTEM WASN'T CRASHED, THEY JUST VANDLIZED THE
28 DATA WHICH ANYONE COULD DO.  WOOPEE, I COULD WRITE A PROGRAM TO DO THAT
29 IN 5 MIN, BUT SO WHAT? SIGH....
30 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY ****************************
31 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXI THINK IT IS TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR SOME
32 ONE TO DO THAT
33 I HAVE BEEN GONE ALL DAY AND HAVE NOT SEEN THE MESSAGES.
34 SO IF NOBODY CAN DOWNLOAD IT I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO TELL ME
35 WHAT THE MESSAGES WERE ALL ABOUT
36 PHERIC FOERENDER
37 =-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
38 really,  I work on such a beutiful day, come home to my computer only
39 to find that I've missed the entry's for today.  Life never was fair
40 but this is rediculous.          Bo
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42 
43 
44 MENU
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47 ==========================================================================
48 Greetings.  Sad but true, I guess. I wonder who decided to destroy all the
49 files again.  Seems to me that this is somewhat common any more. At any rate,
50 some food for thought:  Why is it that people seem to view people who work
51 in gas stations as total idiots?  I work in a station, and am hardly illiterate.Just wondering.  By the way, Bo.  "Who said lif
52 was fair?????"    Whiskey Vic
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54 
55 
56 
57 quit
58 WOW- IT HAS BEEN AWILE SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD AND THE ABOVE 
59 SORT OF BLOWS ME AWAY-WHAT ARE WE AT-THE TOP[ SO WE CAN MESS WITH EACH
60 OTHER-6 MONTHS LATER TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AND I GET A HELL OF A
61 SURPRIZE-BMS WAS ONE OF THE NEAT OUTLETS FOR ALL OF US AND I HOPE SOME
62 IC CHIPS FRY FOR WHAT SOMEONE HAS DONE THINKING IT WAS A JOKE.HEY MIKE-
63 HANG IN THERE-
64 ====================================================================
65  
66  DOES L-5 STAND FOR LANGRANGE (DID I SPELL THAT RIGHT?) 5, THE
67 GRAVITATIONAL NULL POINT IN LUNAR ORBIT?
68 
69 =============================================-EVAN-=================
70 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
71 Deborah -- I still haven't gotten to back issues, but sometime!!!   L-5 is
72 one of the interesting points in the moon's orbit about the earth.  In the
73 erased messages, the bard explained it quite well, i'll try to repeat it as
74 best i can.  In the earth-moon system there exist 5 points where the gravity
75 of one is EXACTLY balanced by the gravity of the other.  These are the 
76 Lagrange points ... L-1 through L-5.  L-1, L-2, and L-3 are arranged on a
77 line through the centers of the earth and moon.  L-4 and L-5 are in the 
78 moon's orbit -- ahead and behind by 60 degrees.  If you think of the earth
79 and moon as being holes in a smooth surface, the gravitational forces around
80 sorry, depressions in a smooth surface -- the force of gravity is the 
81 depth of the depression.  L-1, L-2, and L-3 are the tops of hills.  If you
82 leave something there, it will continue to drift and move away from that
83 point.  L-4 and L-5 are at the bottom of wrinkles in the cosmic blanket.
84 They are points of positive stability and anything left near them will drift
85 into them.  This makes L-4 and L-5 desirable building points in space.
86   The L-5 society is dedicated to building a colony at the L-5 point.  They
87 have done exhoaustive research and planning on this and it is possible NOW!
88 The investment is enourmous -- and the payback even more so.  I'll try to
89 get you an address (any help from anyone?) so you can send for their 
90 information.  These are LARGE scale dreams!
91 Mikey -- even though I appreciate the necessety, it sure is hard not o be
92 able to go back and change mistooks in the previous line.  Oh well...
93 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
94 
95 SORRY, I ONLY DID IT AFTER THE SECOND ATTEMPT. UNTIL SOMEBODY OUT THERE
96 LEARNS A LITTLE BIT OF RESPONSABILITY, IT WILL REMAIN THAT WAY.
97 ****************** CISTOP MIKEY **************************************
98 THIS BBS WILL NEVER CHANGE.'GOOD'!!!!
99 ...................................
100 Now I see why some people want less gun control, so next time the Inn
101 is zapped,,.....
102 Of course, stiff gun control would reduce the number of people hurt with
103 guns, since most of it is due to accidents; however it would have very
104 little effect on what people are afraid of: criminals using them. For
105 proof of the efficacy of gun control look at New York, which has one of
106 the stiffest gun control laws around, yet their crime rate using guns is
107 still rather high. (Except for murders commited "in heat of passion".)
108 Texas has a very high rate of murders using guns, but such things as
109 armed robberies aren't much more common, even if their gun control laws
110 are the most lax in the US. In London the crime rate using guns is
111 steadily rising, until even Bobbies now are often armed; this in the 
112 face of very stiff laws.
113    But let's admit it, the arguements about gun control have very little
114 to do with safety, and a lot to do with POWER, or more expilcitly, who 
115 will have it over another person. It is such a nice feeling to be able
116 to tell someone else what he MUST do. A gun is a symbol of power, and
117 being able to deny someone else the right to have one is power. All the
118 other arguements for gun control also imply the restriction of all
119 dangerous tools, or dangerous games, like cars, or worse car racing, or
120 maybe mountain climbing, or high school sports (which kill more people
121 than guns do), or ... But if enough people do it, even if logic says
122 otherwise, it is OK, or if it feeds our egos (like the local team 
123 winning) it is OK.
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125 
126 
127 
128 More people get killed by high school sports than by guns? Hmmmm, I 
129 didn't know that. Max
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131 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
132 Hmmmmm...  It seems someone's mother didn't breast feed them when
133 they were a baby.  Or maybe they still are in diapers. The first time
134 I don't check the board for a day or two and everything gets 
135 erased.  Must be April Fool's Day.  Now where did that fool go?
136                                        Dr. Frankenstupe
137 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_
138 -----------------------------------------------
139 Hi, I'm new here. Is this just for messages
140 only?                 
141 Rachel B.
142 
143 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
144 I HAD NO IDEA 69,000,000 WERE KILLED IN HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS SINCE 1914.
145 THAT'S ABOUT HOW MANY HAVE BEEN KILLED IN ARMED FIGHTING SINCE THEN. SO
146 WHOEVER MADE THAT STATEMENT NEEDS TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH.
147 PIPER: A RECENTLY OBTAINED A BOOK THAT IS ON A SIMILAR TOPIC. BUT IT'
148 CLAIMS THAT THE BUILDING OF SUCH A PLACE BEGAN PRE 1979. I HAVE NOT
149 EVALUATED IT'S AUTHENTICITY YET, NOR HAVE I FINISHED READING THE BOOK.
150 IT'S ENTITLED " ALTERNATIVE 3 ", EVER HEARD OF THE BOOK? IT'S A COMPI-
151 LATION OF EVIDENCE, NEWS AND OTHERWISE, SUPPOSEDLY PROVING THAT THIS
152 COLONY ALREADY EXISTS. WHO KNOWS?
153 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!DEBORAH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
154 HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU EXIT THIS SYSTEM?  MAYBE THAT'S THE REASON 
155 THINGS GOT ERASED.  I'VE TRIED TO EXIT SEVERAL TIMES AND FIND IT 
156 IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO.  EXIT DOESN'T WORK WHEN I TRY.  MAYBE IT'S MY 
157 SYSTEM, BUT IF I CAN GET ON AND NOT GET OFF EASILY, ONE MIGHT BE TEMPTED
158 TO TAMPER WITH THE OTHER MESSAGES ON THE SYSTEM.  SYSOP, PLEASE TELL ME
159 OTHER WAYS TO EXIT THIS SYSTEM WITH OUT UNPLUGGING THE LINE.
160                           SIHM
161 
162 
163 =======================================
164 Gensyn med Danmark
165 
166 Forunderligt, saa soedt et smil
167 ej smiler nogen anen strand,
168 som naar en soldag i april man ser igen det danske land.
169 
170 Et stille land!
171 Den gamle jord med groensvaer klaedt i havets skoed!
172 En venlig slaegt ved soeen bor.
173 Her gjorde regnen kinden roed.
174 
175 En koelig yndig flora gav de danske lave kyster lae.
176 Jeg laegger ned min vandringsstav og kommer, kaere, til dit knae.
177 
178 
179 God dag!
180 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
181 How many were killed?......
182 Whisky Vic: I thought you were going to quit your job anyway a fairly
183 long time ago.  I've still got my job (for better or worse).
184 Rachel: this system is for just about anything you want, from fiction to 
185 debate to whatever. 
186                        Bo
187 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
188 HELLO, IAM NEW HERE TOO.I HOP I
189 CAN GET OUT.BY THE WAY WHOSE BEEN WRITING IN SWEEDISH OR WHAT
190 EVER THAT STUFF IS.
191 I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT DE
192 STATISTICS SO I CAN'T BE OF
193 MUCH HELP THERE BUT DID YOU 
194 KNOW THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE
195 KICKED TO DEATH BY DONKEYS THAN
196 DIE IN AIRPLANE DISASTERS.
197 THIS IS THE BEST BBS I 
198 FOUND SO FAR SIMPLY BECAUSE
199 YOU DONT HAVE TO DO THIS,THAT
200 AND THE OTHER THING TO F
201 MESSAGES.HERES ANOTHER ODD FACT.
202 THE OLDEST KNOWN INSECT IS A
203 TERMITE QUEEN AND SHE IS OVER 
204 50 YEARS OLD.AND THIS QUEEN
205 USUALY LAYS 300,000 EGGS A DAY.
206 SO FAR SHE HAS GIVEN BIRTH TO
207 (JUST A MINUTE I HAVE TO 
208 ACTUALLY FIGUIRE OUT THIS STUFF)WELL OVER ONE HALF MILLIONLITTLE BUGS
209 
210 I MADE A MISTAKE THAT 300,000
211 BUGS IS ACTUALLY 30000 BUGS.
212 
213 BYE.LETS SEE NOW HOW DO I GET 
214 THIS THING SAVED AND ME OUT OF
215 THE SYSTEM.
265 *******************************
266 TRRKKIES,TREKKERS,AND OTHERS!
267 STAR TRE]I[:THE SEARCH FOR
268 SPOCK PRIEMIERS JUNE FIRST.IF
269 WHEN I CHECK AGAIN IT LOOKS 
270 LIKE ANY BODY CARES I HAVE TONS
271 OF DOCUMENTATION ON THE LONG
272 AWAITED THIRD STAR TREK MOVIE.
273 ****************HAWTHORNE******
274 THIS IS THE STRANGEST BOARD I HAVE EVER SEEN. WHAT IS ITS PURPOSE? WHY 
275 IS IT MADE THIS WAY? THE CONFERENCE SOFTWARE SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD 
276 BETTER FIT THE NEEDS THAN THIS ONE, WHAT KIND OF SOFTWARE IS THIS 
277 ANYWAYS? BYE
278 *******************************
279 YEAH,I LIKE THE SYSTEM TOO.HOW
280 CANI GET MY GRUBBY LITTLE HANDS
281 ON THE SOFTWARE?BY THE WAY,
282 WOULD A PLANET WITH MORE THAN
283 ONE MOON HAVE AN EQUIVALENT OF
284 THE LAGRANGE POINTS?IF SO WOULD
285 NOT THE NUMBER OF POINTS BE IN
286 DIRECT PORPRTION TO THE NUMBER
287 OF MOONS ORBITTING THIS PLANET?
288 ******************HAWTHORNE****
289 I DONT THINK THAT A PLANET WITH
290 MORE THAN ONE MOON WOULD HAVE L
291 POINTS UNLESS THE PLANET WAS SO
292 LARGE THAT IT COULD SHIELD THE
293 OTHER MOON FROM ANOTHER MOONS 
294 GRAVITATIONAL PULL.THAT MIGHT
295 HAVE BEEN WHAT YOU WERE GETTING
296 AT WITH THAT 'WOULD' PART.I
297 JUST GOT MY MODEM TOO.AND I AM
298 A TREKKER-EXTRAORDARILY A 
299 TREKKER.I HAVE FOUND OUT TO 
300 MUCH ABOUT STAR TREK iii THE
301 WAY IT IS.IF YOU DO LIST SOME
302 OF THE STUFF YOU HAVE ABOUT IT
303 PUT A WARNING ON THE FILE 
304 SO I CAN TURN AWAY FOR A MINUTE
305 I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LISTEN-
306 ING TO ANOTHER FAN'S RAVING ON
307 OTHER ASPECTS OF IT THOUGH.BY
308 THE WAY JUST CALL ME ZIPSTER,OR
309 AT LEAST SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS
310 REASONABLY LIKE THAT ANYWAY O.K
311 GLAD TO MEET YA.    BYE.
312 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
313 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
314 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
315 Ah yes - the constitution specifically enumerates the right of every 
316 idiot to own a gun. Let me dig out my copy. There we go, a little
317 dusty but none the worse for neglect. Of course you all have a copy
318 of your own, don't you, so you can just follow along. Here we are, 
319 the bill of rights. I think the second amendment is what we want.
320 Now, just in case someone doesn't have a copy, I'll quote from mine.
321 "A well regulated MILITIA, being necessary to the security of a free
322 State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be
323 infringed." Caps mine, of course.
324     I can see that at a quick glance, especially if taken last in
325 the sixth grade, It would appear that our venerated founding fathers
326 had wished us to be able to indescrimanently own the firearm(s) of 
327 our choosing. But a literal interpretation, the kind the NRA loves
328 to espouse, ties the ownership of arms directly to an organized
329 militia. No where do I read that all citizens are guaranteed the
330 right to kill whomever they choose, or any othe interpretation 
331 equally as silly. And as to the earlier comment that cars should
332 be outlawed, when was the last time you drove you gun to work ?
333     I don't care what anyone says, A handgun is only good for killing
334 poeple. Rifles are a different matter, but no one is trying to get
335 rid of them for justifiable reasons. If one is able to buy an item
336 that is made expressly for killing other people, and do this with a
337 clear conscience, then that fact alone should preclude their abilty
338 to own a handgun.
339     So there; nyah,nyah.
340                                             Mr. Tim
341 Greetings again.  Bo, just how is it that you happen to know me???? Hmm?
342 Interesting.  At any rate, as for guns, little needs to be said that if
343 Guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, no?  (Author unknown).
344 A little aside:  Methinks that Mr. Jackson (You DO know who he is, don't
345 you????) has shot himself in the foot with his many and varied comments
346 ranging from derogatory comments on Jewish people to preaching style.  
347 Will be an interesting thing to see how many votes he ends up getting.
348 Why is it that I turn on my tv and someone is asking for MORE MONEY?
349 Doesn't Uncle Sam have enough to go around, or are guns more important
350 than people?  Yet another telethon was on last night with pitiful attempts
351 to beg, borrow and steal money from the American public.  ENOUGH ALREADY!
352 When will we see the end of this?????? Until later, then.  Fgrep Whiskey
353 ###############################################################
354 Mr. Tim, Suggest you study both the Constitution AND history a little 
355 more. Also, you shouldn't pick out only those parts that you like. It 
356 must be taken as a whole, and considered in the intent in which it was 
357 originaly written, not a definition to fit your own desires. First the 
358 term Militia; Shall we look up the definition? 'An army composed of 
359 CITIZENS called out in time of emergency.'  Agreed that the 
360 Constitution does not say which types of arms are allowed, but if you 
361 were to study it further, you would find that it says that if 
362 something is not indicated within the constitution, that does not mean 
363 that it is not allowed, but rather the opposite. I noticed that though 
364 you capitalized the word MILITIA, you convienently ignored the rest of 
365 the statment "the right of the 'people' to keep and bear arms shall 
366 not be infringed."  Note that it speeks of the people, not of just a 
367 conscript army.  Also, though the handgun is used to kill people, so 
368 is a rife.  When was the last time you heard of someone using an M16 
369 to shoot a dear? On the other hand, it is a very uncommon thing for 
370 someone to kill somebody with a blackpowder pistol.
371 Also, the point being made with the car earlier, was that it is the person
372 behind the wheel that kills, and not the car, just as it is the person 
373 behind the gun that kills, and not the gun.
374 ###########################################################################
375 *******************************
376   IT SEEMS TO ME THACONT-
377 ROL WORKS.BUT NOT IN AMERICA.I
378 CITE NORTHERN IRELAND A CITIZEN
379 IS ALLOWED ONLY A RIFLE FOR HIS
380 OR HER PROTECTION.IT WORKS FOR
381 THE MOST PART.BUT THE IRA AND
382 I IMAGINE SOME CITIZENS STILL
383 GET OTHER WEAPONS.BUT USUALLY
384 THOSE WEAPONS COME FROM NATIONS
385 THAT HAVE NO GUN CONTROLLS.THE
386 ANSWEPEARS TO BE SIMPLE.GET
387 GUN CONTROLL IN EVERY NATION,
388 INCLUDING AMERICA.THE REASON
389 THAT I TERMED THE SOLUTION AS 
390 APPEARING SIMPLE IS BECAUSE IT
391 IS NOT IN ACTUALITY SIMPLE.
392   GUNS,RIFLE,SMG'S, ETC. ARE
393 VERY HARD TO DESIGN AND BUILD
394 THE REQUIRE MONEY,TALENT,MACHIN-
395 ERY ET CETRA.THE PLACES TH
396 MAKE WEAPONS THEREFORE SHOULD
397 BE EASY TO FIND AND CLOSE DOWN
398 ,RIGHT,WRONG.
399   A GUNSMITHY CAN BE VERY SMALL.
400 AND CERTAIN NATIONS(AMERICA INC-
401 LUDED) GUARAUNTEE THE RIGHT OF IT'S CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO BEAR
402 ARMS.THIS RIGHT IS ONE OF THE
403 BASIC RIGHTS IN AMERICA.TO EVEN
404 OVERTHROW THIS RIGHTWOULD MOST
405 LIKELY RESULT IN THE OVERTURNING
406 OF OTHER RIGHTS,JUST AS SOON AS
407 THOSE RIGHTS BECAME INCONVIENENT
408 .THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD MOST
409 STRONGLY DEFEND AGAINST.
410   THE SIMILIE OF THE GUN TO A
411 CAR IS CLICHE.FOR THE COMPARISON
412 IS BAD.YOU MIGHT AS WELL COMPARE
413 THE OWNING OF KNIVES TO THE
414 OWNING OF CANDLES.BUT WHAT I
415 THINK THE MESSAGE WAS IS MORE
416 ADEQUATELY TERMED AS OWNING 
417 KNIFE AS COMPARED TO OWNIG A GUN
418 BOTH OFTEN ARE USED TO KILL.BOTH
419 OFTEN HAVE VERY LEGITAMATE USES
420 THE KNIFE,AS A BASIC TOOL,AN
421 ONE OF MANS OLDEST.THE GUN AS
422 A TOOL OF SPORT(NO,I'M NOT IN
423 FAVOR OF HUNTING BUTSPORT
424 IS POPULAR AND ADEQUCOTRO-
425 LLED)AND AS PROTECTIO-
426 N.
427 *****************HAWTHORNE*****
428 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
429 I AGREE WITH HAWTHORNE,A GUN IS
430 ONLY A TOOL.RESPONSI-
431 BLE FOR IT'S ACTIONS THE USER
432 IS.BY THE WAY HAWTHORNE,WHAT
433 DI YA THINK ABOUT STAR TREK:THE
434 MOTION PICTURE,AND STAR TREK:
435 THE WRATH OF KHAN?
436 ++++++++++++++++ZZZZIPSTER++++
437 *******************************
438 I LIKED STAR TREK:THE MOT
439 PICTURE BUT ONLY IN IT'S BOOK
440 FORM.THE REAL STORY DOES NOT
441 TRANSLATE WELL TO THE BIG
442 SCREEN.AND IT ESPECIALLY DOES
443 NOT FIT IN WITH THE NEW EQUIPM-
444 ENT THAT PARAMOUNT WANTED DESI-
445 GNED.
446 I LOVED SAR TREK:THE WRATH 
447 KHAN.THE WHOLE THING WAS GREAT.
448 IT WAS EVEN A BETTER BOOK.
449 *******************HAWTHORNE***
450 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
451 
452 NOTICE:          VITAL INFO.
453  
454   IT SEEMS THAT BACKWATER USERS
455 HAVE BEEN HARRASSING(HOWEVER
456 ACCIDENTALLY) THE PERSON WITH
457 THE PHONE NUMBER 230-xxxx.WHEN
458 EVER SOMEONE REVESES THE LAST TWO NUMBERS OF BACKWATERS PHONE
459 NUMBER HE GETS CALLED.AND WE
460 ALL KNOW HOW LATE SOME PEOPLE
461 CALL BACKWATER.
462   WHAT REALLY SADDENS ME IS THAT
463 HE SAYS THAT WHEN BACKW
464 USERS SCREW UP AND GET HIS
465 HOME PHHONE NUMBER,THEY VERY
466 ABUSIVE.
467   LOOK ALL IT TAKES IS A SLIP OF
468 THE FINGERS AND THIS GUY GE
469 WOKEN UP AT 3:45 AM.SO, LETS
470 BE CAREFULL OUT THERE.
471 ++++++++++++ZZZZZZZZIPSTER+++++
472 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
473   I AM NEW HERE SO I WOULD LIKE
474 KNOW JUST WHAT THE HISTORY OF
475 BACKWATER IS.
476 .
477 .
478 SIGNED,
479 SARA M.
480 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
481 ********************************
482 TO ALL ROLE PLAYING GAMERS OUT
483 THERE IN CRT LAND.LEAVE A MESSA-
484 GE TO HAWTHORNE ABOUT A FREE PBM
485 PLAYTEST.SORRY,NO PRIZES.
486 *****************HAWTHORNE******
487  
488  
489  
490  
491  
492 WHY DONT PEOPLE PUT SPACES IN BETWEEN LINES ANY MORE,HUH?
493  
494  
495  
496  
497  
498 BOTTOM
499 U 60
500            TO  HAWTHORNE
501            FRO DRENNON
502            RE  P B M
503  
504   WHAT IS IT CALLED,WHEN ARE
505 DECISIONS DATELINES,WHAT ARE
506 THE RULES?I WANNA PLAY!!!!!!
507  
508  
509  
510 UP 40
511 AW SHUCKS IT HAPPENED AGAIN
512 spaces between lines waste disk space.-- Your Mother
513 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
514   ALL: please forgive me (for the gun control) (i didn't know it was loaded)
515   Piper: if L-4 & L-5 are gravity "wells", then why arn't they full of space
516 junk? in fact, why don't they have an atmosphere? over the eons, one would
517 expect to have to satellites (natural) in those positions...
518    One might also observe that since those points are availiable in limited
519 quantities (2) (except Morrison), why would a planet wish to clutter them up
520 with fixed objects? These points would obviously make excellent "holding"
521 areas for spacecraft, yes?
522    We can even get creative: Some advanced planet, eons ago, spotted our
523 humble planet, and realizing that earth would, some day, support an advanced
524 culture (such as our own?), zoom off through the void of space to meet space
525 ship earth as sort of a cosmic welcome wagon. Before departing, a quick 
526 neutrino scan of our neighborhood revealed 2 PERFECT places to park their
527 space cruiser.....so perfect they set the co-ordinates into the guidance
528 system before they leave Grekotznik (name of advanced planet). Imagine
529 their dismay at finding an expanded version of sputnik in their parking
530 space (pun). They have to park the space cruiser SOMEWHERE......the
531 trip has been VERY long (next rest area: 1.2 light-years).....the
532 photon cannons ARE charged up......hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I wouldn't want
533 to be in L-4&5 THEN, now would you?
534                                                    Aaron
535 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
536 ********************************
537 HECK NO!!BUT WHAT ABOUT KLINGONS
538 AFTER ALL WE ALL HAVE A BIT OF
539 KLINGON IN US.THEN AGAIN WE ALL
540 HAVE A LITTLE BIVULCAN IN
541 US.I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MAKES US
542 HUMAN.I THINK.
543 MR.DRENNON CALL ME AT 1-503-283-
544 xxxx FOR DETAILS AND A MAILING ADDRESS.
545 AND BY THE WAY THAT WAS 'BIT OF
546 VULCAN' NOT BIVULCAN.
547 ZZZZZIPSTER.TRIVIA QUESTION-WHAT
548 IS THE GRAVITY ON VULCAN'S THIRD
549 MOON AT A HEIGHT OF 5 METERS?
550 **************HAWTHORNE*********
551  
552 ********************************
553 WHAT!?!?!?! NO ANSWER YET!
554 **************HAWTHORNE*********
555  
556 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
557 TTRIVIA QUESTION ANSWER:THAT ISN
558 'T FAIR.VULCAN HAS NO MOON,
559 DIDN'T YOU KNOW THAT?
560 TRIVIA QUESTION:AT WHAT TIME,ON WHAT DAY,IN WHAT MONTH,DURING 
561 WHICH YEAR DID STAR TREK'S FIRSR
562 EPISODE PREMIER?
563 +++++++++++++++++ZZZZZZZIPSTER++
564 UP 10
565 EXIT
566 OUT
567 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
568   Aaron and Deborah -- Celestial mechanics is a little bit over my head,
569 so most of the stuff I'm quoting you is from popularizations-- but here goes
570 nothing.  The case of the earth-moon-third object is the well-known
571 (in circles that compute orbits of bodies) three-body problem.  For th
572 rest of us -- simple solutions for more than two bodies orbiting one anoher
573 in free space do not exist.  Add a third body and a simple set of equations
574 accurately describe the orbital motion of three or more bodies, exept in
575 one particular case -- where the third body is small in comparison to te
576 other two and occupys the L-4 and L-5 positions.  An L-4 and L-5 position
577 should occur for each pair of bodies in our solar system -- for the 
578 sun-earth combination, for the sun-venus, for the sun-mars, for the 
579 sun-jupiter and so forth.  In fact a group of asteroids known as the 
580 Trojans occupy the L-4 and L-5 points in the sun-jupiter system.  The forces
581 at these points are INCREDIBLY SMALL.  The gravity wells at these points
582 are more of the magnetude of cm/week2.  However, the earth-moon points do 
583 contain small amounts of debris.  One of the main proponents of the L-5
584 society is a man called ??? O'Niel (first name got lost) thus in some of 
585 our present science fiction the presence of O'Niel space habitations, his
586 contribution to the movement.  Aaron -- yes, I agree that these points are
587 the logcal staging areas for inter and intra-stellar traffic.  When th
588 Whimseys from planet Whim drop by for a visit, they most likely will wait
589 there for an invitation to descend.  In fact ... ever think about how big
590 that area of the sky is?  And just how small and insignificant a sperical
591 craft a mile in diameter would be at that distance?  Now if I wanted to 
592 keep an eye on a bunch of primitives, I'd use an asteroid, hollow it out,
593 paint it black, and set it at either the L-4 or L-5 points.  When they 
594 became civilized enough to come out and talk, then we'd think about contact.
595 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
596  
597  
598 ********************************
599 THERE ARE MANY SCIENCE FICTION
600 (SCIENCE FACT?)STORIES ABOUT
601 THAT SORT OF IDEA.I WOULD LIK
602 TO KNOW IF(JUST IN CASE)THERE IS
603 ANY BODY OUT THERE WHODOES NOT
604 BELEIVE IN EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE
605 ,I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW,ALSO,HOW YOU SUSTANCIATE YOUR CLAIM.
606 ***************HAWTHORNE********
607 EXIT
608 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
609   I THINK THAT THOSE LAGRAN
610 POINTS WOULD PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE TO BSTATIONS.
611 NATIONALLY OWNED SPACE STATIONS
612 WHICH IS WHAT IS MOST LIKELY
613 WHAT WILL HAPPENSPACE
614 STATION IS PERMANENTLY LOCKED IN
615 TO AN L-? ORBIT THAT PLACE CN
616 NOT BE INFRINGED UPON,CAN IT.
617   IF THE UN BUILT AN INTERNATION
618 AL STATION IT COULD BE A GREAT
619 SYMBOLIC FEAT.THE BALANCING OF
620 EARTH'S POWERS.
621 .
622 .
623 SARA M.
624 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
625 To my unsigned critic:
626     I'll get back to you with a little constitutional history when I
627 have some space. Why do I feel so vindictive???         Mr. Tim
628 
629 REPENT! THE END IS AT HAND!

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