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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
2 ********************* REMOVED: 11 APR 84 *******************
3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System)  Mike Day System operator
4 ************************************************************
5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION
6                     PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM.
7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public.
9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is
10 privatly owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which
11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be
12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the
14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the
15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace
16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
18 ************************************************************
19 
20 New BBS!  Olive-Pit BBS, 295-xxxx.  8 am-8pm.  Keep trying, should be up by
21 time you read this.
22 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
23 To all bemoaning the absence of the REPLACE command, bear in mind that
24 the gentleperson responsible has been cordially invited to attend the
25 bi-weekly PorSFiS/BW meeting.  If said person is proud enough to oblige,
26 all of us will have an opportunity to properly show our appreciation.
27 Then we will have no impediments to regaining our beloved REPLACE command.
28 This also gives you hold-outs that extra incentive to attend.
29 Concerning the means of identifying the BWers at PorSFiS, amongst the
30 flourescent headband, pipes, gray clothing, compluter, etc., the means
31 of identifying (oops, I repeated myself, and can't go back and fix it-
32 PLEASE come to the meeting, oh clever 'hacker')
33 anyway, you can tell the :::O O:::voyeur:::O O:: by his lack of
34 identfying marks.  After all, isn't anonymity the mark of the true voyeur?
35 (there are other indications, but I don't want my message deleted by
36 CISTOP)
37 To the parityless man: I hope no 'shocking' situations will prevent
38 your attendance this time?
39 ::::::::::::::O O:::::::voyeur:::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::::::
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41   Being basically a rather peaceable typpe, I am beginning to hope that the
42 dread disk eraser does not identify itself.  Although it munged my messages,
43 I almost hesitate to take part in the takeapart party that seems to be 
44 forming in it's (honor? -- that seems a strange word to use here) 
45   Bard -- when one vists the wilds of downtown Portland and finally locates
46 the library building, where does one congregate if one wishes to congregate
47 with those who are there to do so?  In other words does this meeting take
48 place in a special room, the main part of the library, where?  Is it marked?
49 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
50 
51 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
52 To the saturday crowd, I'll be trying to get a hold of MIG over
53 the nurd as my first priority today. hope to see you all soon
54                         F.F.
55 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ bsal @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
56 [][][][][][][][][][]   0827   04/06/84   [][][][][][][][][][][]
57 
58 GARAGE SALE- APRIL 7TH
59 
60 A LOT OF COMPUTER STUFF, INCLUDING FULL SETS OF COMPUTE, CREATIVE,
61 AND ATARI MAGS, IBM MAINFRAME MANUALS, SOME HARDWARE, SOFTWARE, ETC.
62 LOTS OF GENERAL STUFF TOO.
63 
64 JUST NORTH OF MULTNOMAH VILLAGE.
65 9:00 TO 5:00 OR UNTIL ALL SOLD.
66 
67 [][][][][][][][][][][][]   DJJ   [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
68 
69 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
70 
71  I would love to attend......However Saturday I have an rendezvous with the 
72 all to elusive " wind "  on the river ..... perhaps another weekend.
73 
74     Are there any M.O.R.C. racers moored at the Backwater ?
75 
76 ::::::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
77       P.H.R.F ........??
78 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
79 M. L'homme sans parity:  I may have transport, but your presence would give us
80 a chance to take care of some business, n'est pas? Perhaps you can also help 
81 with a minor software problem: What do I do to the UART to get it to output
82 a TRUE break (not a ^C)? I need this to get my modem to hang up!
83 I know it can be done, because my current terminal prog does it! I just 
84 need to do it from a program I'm working on.
85 
86 Piper: PorSFiS meets in the Auditorium.
87 
88 ALL Niven fans: While getting some of my collection autographed Thursday, 
89 (WHAT! You didn't know Larry Niven was in town yesterday? See what you missed
90 by not attending the last meeting!) I learned something that will interest
91 many of you. After autographing my copy of "The Mote in God's Eye", Larry
92 flipped thru the book & then WROTE IN A CORRECTION TO A TYPO! The correction 
93 (which TOTALLY changes the meaning of the sentence!) follows:
94 Chapter 50, last line: change "spared" to "spaced"! 
95 ie instead of "The children should have been spared.", it was supposed to be
96 "The children should have been spaced." 
97 Just a MINOR change, right? I don't know which editions have the typo,
98 but I'd check mine if I were you!
99 (I'm beginning to think that ALL publishers are just sending things thru a 
100 DUMB spelling checker & then using underfed chimps as proofreaders!)
101 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
102 Starship Unity (words: Anne Passovoy, tune: Johnny Be Fair-Buffy St. Marie)
103 My father is the captain of the starship Unity,
104 And me and mama live on board to bear him company.
105 And I am of the age when I am anxious for to wed;
106 And I must choose a groom who'll win approval from my Dad.
107 
108 Well, Johnny is fine, and Johnny is fair, and wishes me to wed.
109 And I marry Johhny but my father up and said,
110 "I hate to tell you, Daughter, what your mother never knew:
111 That tentacled mess is a son of mine, and so is kin to you."
112 .
113 Well, Jimmy is fine, with shining scales, and sweet as he can be.
114 And I would marry Jimmy, but my father said to me,
115 "I hate to tell you, Daughter, what your mother never knew:
116 That hatchling too is an egg of mine and so is kin to you."
117 
118 Well, Zarin is fine and nine feet tall, and covered with purple hair.
119 And I would marry Zarrin, but my father said, "Beware!
120 I hate to say it, my darlin' girl, but it's the same old tale,
121 And remembering what his mom was like, we're not sure he's a male."
122 
123 Now, Brian is made of light and air, and rather hard to see.
124 At least he doesn't look as if he's any kin to me.
125 I said as much to Father, and he said, "Girl, mind your lip!
126 And never underestimate the captain of a ship."
127 
128 Was ever there a maiden in so sad a fix as this?
129 If all my father says is true, I'll die a single miss.
130 For every man on board is my own brother true --
131 I'll go and find my mother and I'll ask her what to do.
132 
133 "Well, tidy your antennae, girl, and comb your hair so blue.
134 I've taught you that a skipper is a father to his crew.
135 He's doubtless laid each female in the Galaxy, but still
136 He's not the critter that sired you, so marry whom you will!"
137 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
138 AS I CROSSED THE FLOOR I LISTENED TO THE JUMBLE OF VOICES AND CLINKING OF
139 GLASSWARE AND SILVER. THEN FROM ACROSS THE ROOM I HEARD THE DRAWLING
140 NASAL VOICE OF THE SPINNER "AH YES, YES INDEED! THEN THERE WAS THE TIME 
141 I WAS CAUGHT UPON THE SURFACE OF GRIMNAL 5. WASN'T SUCH A BAD PLACE TO
142 VISIT SAVE FOR THE CONFOUNDED NATIVES! BIG BRUTES THEY ARE, AND OF THE
143 STRANGEST COLOR I'VE EVER SEEN. ALL BLUE AND FURRY KIND OF LIKE A BLUE
144 GRIZZLY ACTUALLY, BUT INTELLIGENT. WELL, ANY WAY , I WAS WALKING ALONG
145 MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS WHEN OF THESE FELLAS LEAPS OUT THE BUSHES WITH
146 HIS EYES ALL GLAZED AND NOSTRILS ALL FLARED OUT. THINKING I HAD AT LAST
147 FOUND A FOE WORTHY OF MY PUGALISTIC SKILLS I QUICKLY BRANDISHED THE 
148 NEAREST WEAPON I COULD FIND: A LARGE BRANCH OF WOOD WITH A GREAT KNOT ON
149 THE END. I WAVED THE CLUB MENACINGLY ABOVE MY HEAD, PREPARING TO DEAL A
150 BLOW UPON HIS FLAT FURRY TOP WHEN HE FELL TO GROUND SQUEELING IN THEIR
151 NATIVE TONGUE WHICH, ROUGHLY TRANSLATED, MEANS SOME THING ALONG THE LINES
152 OF "HURT ME! PLEASE!! OH HIT ME, BRUISE ME ABOUT THE SHOULDERS!!" I AWS
153 OVERCOME WITH AWE! A MASOCHISTIC, BLUE GRIZZLY BEAR!! NEEDLESS TO SAY,
154 THERE WASN'T MUCH TO EXCEPT WALK AWAY LEAVING THE POOR CRITTER SIMPERING
155 TO HIMSELF." I GRIMACED, THINKING OF THE TIMES I HAD ENDURED HIS TALES OF
156 GREAT PLANETSMANSHIP, BUT THE SPINNER WAS THE ONLY BEING, ALIEN OR OTHER
157 WISE, WHO MIGHT POSSIBLY KNOE THE WAY HOME. I APPROACHED THE TABLE, MY
158 EYES WATCHING THE CROWD, "EXCUSE ME , I BEGAN ..........
159 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
160 Fast Fred:if you called this mourning,give it another shot,I was sleeping.
161 and my BBS is the NERD not NURD!The Man in Gray
162 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
163 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
164 oopps!!!!  sorry mig.   however, the nErd still refuses to answer
165 my plea.   AAUURRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!
166      I'm going to try to get the number on a couple other places. Try west
167 side 1 or somewhere else with private mail. If all else fails, since you
168 know my last name, you can always find me in the phone book (not many of
169 us around, y'know).  
170                  Fast Fred    BSAL(ret)
171 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
172       Mig:   Nobody answers.  I really am in the book (not my my first
173 name) but about the only time I'll be here is early saturday (you can
174 leave a message here anytime). About 9am would be best.  I'll be
175 at mall 205 cinema for a couple of shows this evening (I have no
176 idea how close or far this is from you).  I hope you get a hold
177 of me sometime in the near future.
178                          Fast Fred 
179                          BSAL
180 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
181 @@@ up above should be not BY my last name......   FF bsal@@@@@@@@@@
182 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
183 it was down when some!"#$%&%$#" telephone worker messed up lines,its up now.
184 The Man in Gray
185 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
186 I ADMIT TO THE GHASTLY CRIME. BUT, I AM NOT WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A HACKER.
187 AND THE CISTOP KNOWS WHO I AM. WE USED TO BE GOOD FRIENDS UNTIL HE $#&@!#$
188 WELL, FORGET WHAT HE DID, BUT IT WASN'T NICE. I CAME BACK FOR A REVENGE OF
189 SORTS. I DON'T EVEN HAVE A MODEM, OR A COMPUTER, BUT I'M USING A FRIENDS.
190 CISTOP- YOU ARE IN FOR MORE, UNTIL YOU DO WHAT I ASKED YOU TO DO BEFORE.
191 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
192 All you good folks gathered here:--Raise your right hands, and repeat:
193       No matter what I write,
194       No matter in what tongue I speak,
195       I hereby solemnly swear TO SPELL EVERYTHING CORRECTLY!!!!!
196       (Even if it means I have to care a little and think even more.)
197   --- So Help Me Webster --
198 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
199 Webster: Placing two dashes after a colon is improper punctuation. 
200 Following TO SPELL EVERYTHING CORRECTLY with an exclaimation point is 
201 somewhat questionable (I recommend consulting Elements of Style by Strunk and
202 White) but following it with five of them is ridiculous. One would expect 
203 Webster to know better. Max
204 #########################################################################
205 =========================================
206 Oh, yummy yummy...I just love pomposity. 
207 Could swallow it all day. Love it, love 
208 it...more, more, more.  -  Bandersnatch
209 =========================================
210 C'MON YOU GUYS LETS GET A GOOD ARGCANT THINK OF O
211 STION????????
212 PHERIC F.
213 ::::::::::::::::         :::::::::::::::::::::::^^^^^^^^^
214 ==========================================
215 If the world is getting you down, and you can't stand more religion, or
216 gun control, ro mad dreams; go down to the coast, and south to 
217 Seal Rock Art Coop
218 Seal Rock Oregon
219 
220 We are having an opening of a showing of photographs on
221 April 7,84
222 starts about 10 am,lasts til about 5pm
223 
224 The show will continue for the rest of april, so you still have time
225 to see ti, even if you go to the garage sale.
226 ========================================================================
227 This disk is definitely a lost cause.  Oh Mr. CISTOP, do you suppose
228 you could do a little compression?  And is it true what the preevert
229 (Dr. Strangelove, not a mispelling) say? He is doing this for some
230 alleged heinous crime of yours?  If you care to give us a name and
231 address, I at least would be more than willing to form a vigilante group
232 and do something outside the law.
233 To the non-hacker who is the subject of so much affection in the Inn:
234 please bear in mind that the vandalism you do here hurts Mr. Day
235 much less than it hurts the people who use this board.  If you must
236 persist in expressing your anger against him, please leave the innocent
237 users of this board out of your quarrel.  We, in turn, will refrain
238 from inflicting grievous bodily harm upon you (assuming we manage to
239 determine your identity, and there is a remarkably clever group of people
240 out here.
241 Sincerely, A Concerned User
242 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
243 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
244   BARD: leave me the number of the UART and I will find the data on it.....
245   Batgauno: are you ever in your office???
246                                                      Aaron
247 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
248 ***************************************************************
249 
250 Since this disc isn't going anywhere anyway I thought I'd chat 
251 a bit. I went to the "Computers and the Arts" Conference on the
252 second. 
253 
254 Real different being around Art director types but it was a 
255 trip. I only went for the telecommunications presentation. I 
256 wanted to learn more about Dialog and telecomputing in the big
257 leagues. Was an interesting presentation.
258 
259 They had print outs from local BBS's, including Backwater. It's 
260 easy to forget these words get passed around places you wouldn't 
261 suspect. The Apprentice got mentioned by name, as an example 
262 used by the presenter of what kind of names are used on 
263 Backwater. Other than having thirty-five people in the session 
264 with only two computers to demonstrate data-bases, it was 
265 a good conference.
266 
267 Well, I hope this contribution is adequate in keeping this 
268 disc as boring as possible. I wouldn't want to break a streak.
269 
270                       Gary
271 
272 *************************************************************
273 YOU DIDN'T - MAX
274 ================
275 MIKE DESERVES IT AFTER WHAT HE'S DONE TO ME. SO, SORRY IF YOU GUYS ARE THE
276 ONES WHO ARE HURT, BUT I CAN'T HELP IT, THIS WAS THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK
277 OF. GOT ANY BETTER IDEAS POSSIBLY?
278 DEATHTOMIKEDEATHTOMIKEDEATHTOMIKEDEATHTOMIKEDEATHTOMIKEDEATHTOMIKEDEATHTOMIKEDEA
279 (<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)
280 I take it that the above is the much beloved disk eraser. What did Mike
281 ever do to you?! There are those among us who happen to like mike even
282 if they have not met him face to face, someone who keeps something like
283 BWMS going can't be that bad. 
284    I will try to make it to the Multnohmah Libray, can't gurantee anything
285 though. What is scheduled tommarow, if I had known Larry Niven was to be there
286 last time I might have tried a little harder to get there.
287    This enter only stuff is a slight nuisance.
288 (<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)The Traveller(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)(<>)
289 *************************************************************************
290 VERY ODD, I DON'T REMEMBER DOING ANYTHING TO ANYONE NOR BEING REQUESTED 
291 TO DO SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T THAT WOULD DESERVE THIS SORT OF TREATMENT.
292 MOST PARTICULARLY IN REGARD TO A FRIEND. MOST ODD. NOR DO I HAVE ANY
293 IDEA AS TO WHO THE INDICATED PERSON IS AS OF YET. COULD IT BE THAT
294 IT IS MISDIRECTED? THERE IS ANOTHER MIKE DAY IN PORTLAND, PERHAPPS IT
295 IS THIS PERSON WHO HAS DONE THIS? I MYSELF TRY NOT TO LEAVE THOSE
296 SORT OF THINGS BEHIND IF IT CAN BE HELPED.
297 ************************* CISTOP MIKEY ********************************
298 Mikey: I think this guy is just out to harrass SYOPs. I
299 he's the same one that wrote the fake homosexual confession 
300 then signed it with the name of a SYOP from a different board.
301 
302 He's not out for revenge against you. It's just that this is 
303 the biggest thrill his pathetic little life affords him. It's 
304 sad if you think about it. Too bad it couldn't be sad somewhere
305 else.
306 
307                           Gary
308 
309 ***************************************************************
310 Here I am, ready to make my mark on society, and there is nothing to write 
311 about. Not being one to be deterred (I hope I spelled that wrong) by small
312 obstacles, here goes ....
313    My private theory is that our famed defacer is not just one person, but
314 a whole host of troubled high school useres aspiring to be somebody. We talk
315 about the vandal so much that eanyone can figure out what to say to get a 
316 little attention and disk space.
317    And whats this vigilante stuff? a little scary if you ask me. Talking is
318 one thing but... The Ku Klux Klan is the best example of what is wrong with
319 that kind of mentality, ain my opinion at any rate.
320    Worried about the natives to the back of the bus? Simple, just offer them a 
321 large number of anything that looks remotely illicit, and with any luck it
322 will prove fatal. Note: this is not vigilante justice, it is merely a com-
323 munity service. In all fairness, When I am occasionally forced to ride a bus
324 I sit in the back as it affords plenty of free reading material, and some
325 people even accuse me of fitting in.(yeeech).
326                                               Mr. Tim              
327 Where be the Ninja?  Powerful Magicks have sommoned the mighty waarrior.
328 George MathKneeBiter SlimeCrawler is on the loose!  We need help!
329 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
330 Vigilanteism (sp) in the Backwater Inn?  What is the world coming to?
331 An interesting situation, coming so soon as it does after the discussions
332 of violence on the last 2-3 disks.  Since CISTOP doesn't know the person,
333 I'm inclined to go along with a previous idea - it's just some jerk
334 out to get his jollies.  As in the 'confession' of the PMS sysop.
335 For lack of a better solution, probably the best recourse is to 
336 ignore it until it goes away.  Having been both the teaser and the
337 teasee in my family, I can attest to the fact that if the victim does
338 not respond, the teaser soon loses interest.  In the mean time,
339 grin and bear it.
340 Bard: I also dug up some info on 'true break'.  Tomorrow I
341 will supply you with the code from OMNITERM that does it.
342 Essentially, it resets bit 2 of port EAH (base + 2), kills about a fifth
343 of a second, then sets the bit again.
344 If everyone shows up tomorrow that has indicated they will,
345 we'll have quite a mob there.  I wonder if I will have any luck finding
346 a place to park, since they are having all the Pioneer Square stuff
347 going on this weekend.
348 ::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::voyeur:::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::
349 && && &&
350 As I have said before, I am basically a peaceful guy these days, so I can't see myself joining in the lynch mob forming
351 in the Inn. However my friend Mongo might find it interesting (Down, Mongo! Good Mongo! Now be a nice Mongo and eat
352 your cow quietly). See you at the Library!
353             && The Mad Actor &&
354 P.S.--If there are as many of us as there SEEM to be going, we may outnumber the PorSiFiS (sp?) members.
355             && TMA &&
356 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
357    --yawn
358 mysterious "hacker": were you the same who DELETEd our last disk?
359   (well no one has actually ASKED him yet.....)
360                                                     Aaron
361 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
362   OOPS! forgot.....
363 ALL: I am starting a PBM game of "Cosmic Encounter" on CBBS/PCS. 
364 (if i can figure out how to deal cards on a BBS.....) if you would
365 like to play either the PBM version or with local group i have here
366 (if your parents dont mind...(private joke)) in my area drop me a 
367 line, or give me a call.
368                                              aa
369 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
370 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
371   Odd how the topics move and shift.  Here we are, taking up an entire
372 disk, discussing very little.  Mikey -- not knowing the identity of the
373 persons on here -- how do you know the ladies have all left??  Could tey
374 all have chosen masculine parts for the last few exercises?  Now there is
375 a species of mind-bending lurking that could have some good effects.  I 
376 confess that I actually am a male, but may essay a female persona at some
377 future time.  Perhaps someone rather quiet and demure with a ferocious
378 temper?  Hmm  I'll give it some thought.
379 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
380 
381   
382 -----------------------------   + / *  -----------------------------
383   
384   Since the actions of the self proclaimed "Phantom Hacker" have
385   brought forth a hypothesis or two concerning the 'nature of
386   the beast', here is another based on my observations of it's
387   characteristics on this and other tele-computer systems.
388    (yes SISTOP the plague is widespread to most systems in the
389     local area)
390   The most noticeable character is the attempt make people
391   angry. This leads me to the hypothesis that this is some sort
392   of green silicon slime-fungus from another space time, that has
393   appeared. Due to a collision with this time space continuum
394   its system was distorted so that it feeds on human emotions.
395   Since one of the strongest of these is anger, it makes attempts
396   to provoke this emotion.
397 
398   Too bad it is not possible to communicate with it and make it
399   aware of the incredible possibilities of this consensual
400   reality it has encountered. If it really is intelligent then
401   it might even be possible to find out how it became damaged
402   in transit and what can be done to effect repair!!!
403 
404   One can only hope for the best!!!
405   
406 ---------------------  The Mesolithic Mathematician  ---------------
407   
408 p.s. Make that characteristic.... (alas with no replace ones errors
409     are there for all to see... it's still a great place to gather)
410   
411 -----------------------------  * / +  ------------------------------
412   
413 ##########################################
414 Yummy, yummy, green silicon slime-fungus,
415 eat it up, eat it up. Yum, Yum. - Bandersnatch
416 ###############################################
417 %&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&
418 SO, HERE I AM. WHAT YOU PEOPLE CALLED THE PHANTON HACKER. ACTUALY I 
419 WASN'T THE PERSON WHO MESSED UP YOUR DISK, I JUST DECIDED THAT I WOULD
420 PRETEND TO BE, SO THAT THE REAL PERSON, OUT OF JEALOUSY FOR THE RESPONSE
421 THAT I GOT, WOULD ADMIT TOO THE CRIME. SORRY IT DIDN'T WORK. I PERSONALLY
422 AGREE WITH SOMEONE WHO POSTED A LITTLE ABOVE THAT THE P"PERSON" WAS A GROUP
423 OF TEENAGERS. WELL, GOOD LUCK IN FINDING THEM. THEY PROBABLY WILL
424 TURN UP AGAIN. 
425 %&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&
426 #@$@$#%#$%$^%&*&(*)_+)_)(&*(^&%*&^$*^^&(&*(^*&^%#$%@#%$%$^$%^&%&^*^&*%*
427 Leroy: I guess I did mis-understand...A weekend war for recreation is still
428 a little strange to me. Most people I know fight wars to win, with the
429 fun part being a minor to victory. But...I guess you can sell anything
430 to the public these days...Good luck with your enterprises...
431 Bard: It sounds like you are going to get UART info without my help, but
432 only if Aaron is not feeling 'punky' on any given day. You have to watch
433 that guy, he can pull a concealed Gary Neuman tape from his coat at any
434 time, and then...LOOK OUT!
435 Voyeur: I will definitly be there, and as far as parking goes, if I have to
436 go up and park at PSU, I will. I don't know what kind of identifying marks
437 I can carry. I don't have a "J'aime Paris" T-shirt or anything like that,
438 I guess I'll dress up like a normal college student, blue jeans, sweater,
439 and nikes...This will be my first visit, so help me out a little...
440 To vigilanties....It looks like the party is over, at least for awhile.
441 Our own "vandal" (don't use the term hacker, it doesn't fit) was merely
442 trying to make the real culprit confess. A nobel effort at best.
443 Aaron : Bat is around, and he said he might even come to the meeting today.
444 Try coming downtown (it will give you a chance to ride in the back of the
445 bus with your friends - sado nation) and get paid in person...Good luck
446 @!$#@$@#%#@%#$%@#$^#$ L'homme sans parity @#$$#@$#%#$%^$*^$(%*^$%(^$%^$
447 

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448 I am a new user on this system. I work as a Systems Engineer on an HP 3000
449 system at Precision Castparts of Portland.  As a computer professional, I am
450 amazed at tchildishness which I've seen here.  I feel that a BBS is a
451 service to all who use it, and not a playground for babies.  If you want to
452 play, don't take up time and space on a system, go buy or bootleg a new game
453 and play it.  A BBS should be a forum for creativity and a place to meet new
454 people, not a 'Romper-Room'.  It may be that System-supplied passwords are
455 in order, with the user supplying info about who (s)he is and where (s)he
456 lives.  While this at first seems too structured, think for a moment.  The
457 SYSOP (correct spelling) were to call the user's number and find that it was
458 phoney, he could pull the password and deny access to that person.  This 
459 would solve your apparent 'hacking' problem.
460 Please also realize that most teenage computerists are responsible persons
461 who are exploring a new world.  Just because a few are infantile doesn't
462 mean that they are as a class, 'Cretins'.  I am definately not a teenager,
463 but I was one not too long ago, and if I broke into a system, I was careful
464 to never harm or modify another's data.  I urge each of you reading this,
465 as users of a privilege that may be taken away, to remember the above 
466 statements.....
467                                    Dennis Olson
468                                    Sys Eng
469 ********************************************************************************
470 
471 *****************************************************************************
472 DENNIS: THANKS FOR THE CONCERN, BUT UNFORTUNATLY, THE VERY CONCEPT BEHIND
473 BWMS PREVENTS ME FROM IMPLIMENTING SUCH A THING. NOT JUST BECAUSE THE
474 HARDWARE CAN'T SUPPORT IT, BUT BECAUSE THE VERY NATURE OF WHAT BWMS IS
475 PRECLUDES THAT SORT OF THING. AND I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED YET
476 ANOUTHER CBBS/BIT BUCKET/PMS/ECT. TYPE SYSTEM IN THIS TOWN. I OFFER AN
477 ALTERNATIVE TO SUCH. FREEDOM TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT FOR AS LONG AS YOU WANT
478 AND NO NEED TO HAVE TO SHOW YOUR IDENTITY TO ANYONE INCLUDING ME. THIS 
479 HAS ALLOWED THE USERS TO HAVE RAGGING DEBATES ON SUBJECTS THAT THEY WOULD
480 NOT NORMALLY TALK ABOUT IF THEIR IDENTITY WERE KNOWN. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
481 IT MEANS THAT YOU CAN GET EXPOSURE TO THE REAL DEEP DOWN DARK THOUGHTS
482 OF PEOPLE THAT THEY NORMALLY WOULD NEVER DARE ALLOW ANYONE ELSE SEE.
483 THIS GIVES THOSE WHO READ THIS MESS A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
484 THE PEOPLE HERE REALLY THINK AND FEEL, AND HOPEFULLY A BETTER UNDERSTANDING`
485 OF THE WORLD AT LARGE. I WOULD SHUT THE SYSTEM DOWN BEFORE I WOULD 
486 CONSIDER IMPLIMENTING SSUCH A THING. THE ENTER ONLY STRUCTURE SERVES TO
487 PRESERVE THE SYSTEM WHEN NEEDED. WHEN THIS ALL BLOWS OVER AS IT HAS DONE
488 A NUMBER OF TIMES IN THE PAST, THE SYSTEM WILL BE RETURNED BACK TO THE
489 NORMAL CONDITION. IT HAS BEEN ONE OF MY CONTINUING AMAZMENTS THAT THE
490 VANDALISM THAT HAS OCCURED HAS BEEN SO MINIMAL, AND EVEN MORE SO THAT
491 THE USERS ARE SO UNDERSTANDING AND TAKE AN ACTIVE INTEREST IN MAINTAINING
492 THE SYSTEM THEMSELVES. IT HAS MADE MY JOB MUCH EASIER.
493                  THANK YOU ALL!
494 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY **********************************
495 P.S. IN CASE YOU ARE WONDERING, THE TITLE CISTOP IS A CONTRACTION OF
496 CISTERN OPERATOR. CONSIDERING THE NAME OF THE SYSTEM, THIS SHOULD
497 GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. (THIS IS AS OPPOSED TO
498 'CYST' OPERATOR <AHEM>).
499   OH YES, FORR YOU NEW PEOPLE OUT THERE, THE SYSTEM CONSISTS OF A
500 SINGLE BOARD CPU WITH 1K RAM (YES, ONLY 1K!) 8K PROM, USING A 8080
501 PROCESSOR, AND TWO SA400 DISK DRIVES, AND BWMS 'IS' THE OPERATING SYSTEM.
502 **************************************************************************
503 Mikey:
504 You referred to the BWMS getting back to 'normal' condition.  Question:
505 Does BWMS >>>>HAVE<<<< a 'normal condition.'  I thought it was permanently
506 abnormal!
507 --------------------------------------------------- P. V. Jeltz ---------------
508 DR. MICRON I WAS WONDERING IF YOU NEW WHAT DAY TODAY IS 
509 ===============================================================================
510 MIKEY:
511 
512 Thank you for your explanation, it was most enlightening.  I understand that
513 occaisionally individuals get out of hand, and try to spoil something for all.
514 These people are usually frustrated folk who can't get any attention any
515 other way.  I for one enjoy these BBS's (!?) and the opportunity to get
516 bizzare from time to time.  Please don't think that I advocate massive
517 security measures, I just don't feel that the minority should rule all.
518 I like your informal approach to this system, and hope to converse with others
519 in the future.
520 
521                                 D. Olson
522 =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
523 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
524 mr Olson.perhaps you are a relative of the infamous "mrs.Olson" at PSU
525 signed-a group of backwater regulars at the home of the Nerd.
526 Archangel Michael-The Man in Gray-Fast Fred-The Mad Actor-Bo-2 BOLO's-dear 
527 Abby-The Wizard-The Silver Ghost-Gaius-the Outsider
528 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
529 ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>=<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>><>
530 P. V . JELTZ:
531 WHEN IS THE HYPERSPACE BYPASS TO BE CONSTRUCTED??
532 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><Ford Prefect<><><><><><><<><>
533 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
534   not ANOTHER one! (sigh......)
535 BARD: tx that UART number over here iffin you want the data......
536 MIG:  quite a party.....
537 L'homme: sorry, couldn't make it. much to do.....
538 Ford: imitation is the....etc.      are you related to Linda?
539                                                       Aaron
540 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
541 addendum........
542 Dennis Olson: do you know anyone there who is involved with the wax molding
543 things that Power Trans Products is putting together for you? I was involved
544 in that project and wonder how (if?) it turned out.......
545 correction......
546 above address should read "Dennis Olson, SYSENG (correct spelling):"
547                                                   Aaron
548 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
549 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
550 We were all sitting`around a couple of tables in the Inn, enjoying our
551 ales, and discussing how boring things had been lately since the expedition o to
552 In the part of the Inn unofficially reserved for a group who enjoyed tall
553 ;ales, and discussing how boring things had been lately since the expeditiontost
554 We were all sitting around a couple of tables in the Inn, enjoying our
555 /ales, and discussing how boring things had been lately since the expedition to stop the flow of high-tech weapons hd ad
556 /In the part of the Inn unofficially reserved for a group who enjoyed tall
557 /tales and the discussions of unlikely futures, the Piper was playing his 
558 /pipes to the appreciative gathering.  The current topic was the unfortunate
559 /lack of the feminine persuasion, most notably the barmaid Pam, when I 
560 /noticed that the room was wavering slightly.  Deciding to test the likelier
561 /observed anything pecuLiar about the circumambient atmosphere?"
562 /(that's not what I really said, but Hey, it's my story!)
563 /He looked at me with a slightly puzzled expression. "Yes, I have.  I
564 /wonder if the Piper is affecting reality again."  As it is bad manners to
565 /to cause a reality shift without notifying the affected partiesnot to
566 /mention giving 73 days warning and getting a three-fourths plus one majority), we decided to remind the Piper of th pop
567 /his free rein with the pipes during the last trip, he had been actinga bit
568 /cavalierly lately.
569 /       Getting up, we heard the pipe's drone die down discordantly.  The 
570 /Piper was standing there with a very confused look on his face.  He turned 
571 /to us and said "something is very wrong here.  I felt a reality shift, but I
572 /didn't do it!"
573 /        Looking about the room, I noted that the furnishings had changed 
574 /slightly, the air smelled of unpleasant chemicals, and the group the Piper 
575 /had been playing had changed.  Going over to the barkeep, I inquired
576 /"Innkeeper, what reality is this?".  He looked at me and said "what WHAT?"
577 /"Reality.  Where is this?".  "This is the PC&S Tavern, and I think you've 
578 /and muttered something about serving those porsfis people any more.
579 /"Horse Piss!?" I gagged.  "You've been serving us THAT?".  He just groaned 
580 /and walked away.
581 /        I asked the Bard "well, shall we look outside and see if we can get
582 /some intelligent idea of where we are?"  Going to the door, we stepped out.
583 /Hearing a loud noise coming from our right, we looked in that direction just
584 /in time to see a large orange behemoth bearing down on us, exhaling foul
585 /smelling smoke and apparently heading straight towards us!
586 :::::::::::::
587 Well, my first attempt uploading a story was not ent
588 DAMN!.  As I was saying, my first attempt at uploading a story was not entirely successful.
589 Let's see if I can fill in some gaps.
590 
591 ..high-tech weapons had had no greater result than to allow some
592 of the party to meet Dorothy and a somewhat dubious wizard.
593 In the part...
594 ...test the likelier of the two possiblities first, I attempted to touch
595 my nose with my eyes closed.  Well, my right eye was close enough.
596 "Bard, have you observed...
597 ...remind Piper of the proper etiquette. Since his free rein...
598 ...PC&S Tavern, and I think you've had enough."  "Alright, but in
599 what reality does this tavern lie?  What plane of existence, what
600 world-line?"  He looked at me queerly, then turned and muttered something...
601 
602 Sorry about this, but I worked too hard on this to just let it go.
603 Feeling very exposed,
604 :::::::::::::::::::O O::::::voyeur:::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::::
605 I am a new user who has been reading the messages and I like the system so 
606 much that I am going to build a bbs similar too it.
607  -- and on a vic 20 yet! I have had it with the pms/cbbs boards in the area
608 these systems have a place but there are precious few places where you 
609 can just kick off your shoes and relax.
610 my machine is presently unexpanded but i plan to expand the memory to a full
611 24 k I have already built the interface to my modem and I am  now modifing 
612 it to auto answer( i own a volksmodem) I would be espically interested in in
613 tips on setting up one of thesr systems.
614 I dont plan to add disks but just store messages in the memory. [[[[[[[[[[[[
615 +++++++++++++++
616 Pre vic board++++++++++++
617 
618 save
619 help
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621 
622 ATTENTION: THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
623 
624 -----------------------------------------------------------------
625 ___
626 ------------------------------  * + /  --------------------------
627 CISTOP MIKEY: My misprelling (sp) of your title was not intentional
628   (just one slip of the wrist, awhack at the return key and one
629    is forever immortalized (well maybe not forever) The Mesolithic Math!

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