
84941 16-JAN 01:07 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Boca modems (Re: Msg 84931)
     From: MITHELEN     To: WTHOMPSON

The harris ACIA chip really only makes a difference when using the coco to SEND
to a SLOWER system... That is because it "fixes" a "bug" with CTS in the
"standard" 6551 ACIA.

The v3.24 rz/sz programs basically have some asm optimized code for CRC calcs,
and also, I finally got buffered writes to the modem port working.
--
 Paul Jerkatis - SandV BBS (708)352-0948: Chicago Area OS-9 Users Group
 UUCP ...{balr|tellab5}!vpnet!sandv.chi.il.us!sysop
 Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com

 "Did you ever notice how cheep 99% of all BBS users are?" - Unknown

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84950 16-JAN 13:00 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Boca modems (Re: Msg 84931)
     From: BANANAMAN    To: WTHOMPSON

I wish I was up to the task of fixing the compiler, too.  :(  The 687 CPS
was the same as the original 6551, but it also registered 1200 CPS on an
XModem-1K download, too.  About the best I've been able to get out of the
new ZModem is 751 CPS.

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84954 16-JAN 14:00 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Boca modems (Re: Msg 84950)
     From: WTHOMPSON    To: BANANAMAN

Are you calling Delphi at 9600?
 Wayne

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84957 16-JAN 18:02 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Boca modems (Re: Msg 84954)
     From: BANANAMAN    To: WTHOMPSON (NR)

Yep.  It really flies compared to the 2400 baud nodes.  There appears to
be less traffic, so you don't get the long delays.  You picked up a
high speed modem yet?  Just wondering...I don't want any competition for
the 9600 baud phone number.  :)
  Andy

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End of Thread.

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84942 16-JAN 01:42 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Telcom (Re: Msg 84924)
     From: REVWCP       To: BANANAMAN

I formatted and cobbled a new disk.  Then I ezgenned in Sacia and T2.
Still no luck.

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84943 16-JAN 01:44 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Telcom (Re: Msg 84925)
     From: REVWCP       To: RANDYKWILSON

There is no MPI, I have a Disto SC-11, 4-in-1 and a Tandy RS232 on a Y cable.
I'll try the other suggestions.

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84946 16-JAN 09:09 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Telcom (Re: Msg 84943)
     From: PHILSCHERER  To: REVWCP

Maybe it's a hardware problem Br. Jeremy. Do you have another Coco? <Phil>

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84953 16-JAN 13:58 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Telcom (Re: Msg 84946)
     From: REVWCP       To: PHILSCHERER

Dear Phil:
The problem appears to be in the modem.  The carrier detect light goes on
but it wasn't getting through to the RS232 pak.  I have a Tandy Mini-Tester
on the line so I can see whats going on.  I changed modems and it seems to be
working.  I will have to check further.

With all best wishes,
Brother Jeremy, CSJW
OS9 User Group Treasurer

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84956 16-JAN 15:12 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Telcom (Re: Msg 84953)
     From: REVWCP       To: REVWCP

Here's the latest, I went back to the Infotel Modem but I changed from the
RS232 pak to a COCOPRO modified ModemPak.  The software will not respond to
the CD light, but upon breaking out of the autologon part of Supercom, I
was able to complete the logon manually.
With all best wishes,
Brother Jeremy, CSJW
OS9 User's Group Treasurer

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End of Thread.

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84944 16-JAN 01:46 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84932)
     From: EARTHER      To: WTHOMPSON

"How about a Missle Command type game for OS-9?"

     You read my mind.  I've played the Microsoft Arcade games on 486
machines and wished OS-9 had them.

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84947 16-JAN 11:55 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84944)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: EARTHER

 > "How about a Missle Command type game for OS-9?"
 >
 > You read my mind.  I've played the Microsoft Arcade games on 486
 > machines and wished OS-9 had them.
 >

You know, someone else mentioned Missile Command a few weeks/months ago right
here and Mark Griffith (I think it was Mark, sorry Mark if it wasn't!) said
in effect, "Why port 15 year old arcade games to our current computer
systems? Bring us something FRESH, something NEW."

In a way, I kind of agree with Mark, as porting over old games seems a lot
like re-runs on TV. But in another way, I'd kindof like to see this myself,
as I was quite a Missile Commander on the original Atari home video game
machines. Dazzeled my friends by racking up impressive scores. Most didn't
seem to mind having to wait for so long before it was their turn, as I could
take as long as a half an hour or more at a single game!!

------------------------------------
 Zack C Sessions
 ColorSystems

 "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assimi ... OOOOHHH, DOUGHNUTS!"


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84949 16-JAN 12:46 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84947)
     From: DSRTFOX      To: ALL

Anyone remeber playing Bjork's BASH? Well, Northern Xposure has an OS-9
game now that is nearly identical, only better! They sent me a copy for review,
and I've never got anything up and runnning from OS-9 so easy! You can also
edit the levels with a text editor to make your own levels. For those
unfamiliar with BASH, you have
 probably seen "Arkanoid"... similar. The game is colorful and smooth when
running alone (no background processes). Alan DeKok wrote it. He says that
graphics smotthness will be better if you use "VRN", available from the
database here. The game is $25, an
d full source code is available for $30. The source is over 150K with 10K docs,
and includes the sprite library he developed. So programmers may want to pick
that up also! Contact Northern Xposure, 7 Greenboro Cres, Ottawa, ON K1T 1W6,
CANADA. I don't norm
ally "expose" one of my reviews like this, but there are very few OS-9 graphic
games to go around!

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84951 16-JAN 13:33 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84947)
     From: BOISY        To: COLORSYSTEMS

So you had an Atari 2600 system eh Zack?  I had one as a kid, and boy,
I loved it.  Recently I acquired one just for nostalgia.  The cartridges
are real cheap nowadays.  And yes, I have Missle Command. ;-)

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84952 16-JAN 13:58 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84944)
     From: WTHOMPSON    To: EARTHER

I just played on a friend's 486 too and I was wishing for it too!

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84955 16-JAN 14:05 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84947)
     From: WTHOMPSON    To: COLORSYSTEMS

Why port 15 year old games to our current system?  Because it is a classic
game, enjoyed by many.  It must make SOME sense to port it to a current
computer system, Micrsoft did it. :-)  And while we may not always like
what they put out, they seem to be doing alright. :-)
 Thanks,
 Wayne

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84958 16-JAN 18:34 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84951)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: BOISY

 > So you had an Atari 2600 system eh Zack?  I had one as a kid, and boy,
 > I loved it.  Recently I acquired one just for nostalgia.  The cartridges
 > are real cheap nowadays.  And yes, I have Missle Command. ;-)

To be honest, I never owned a 2600 myself. I had several friends who did
when they were at their heyday. One was where I got all my Missile Command
playing time.

We are showing our age, here, Boisy. You as a kid and me as an old timer. My
first experiance with video games was at the beer halls at the beach when
I was 23-24, timeframe was 74-75, when PONG hit the scene with a smash. It
was immensely popular with a certain set of beer hall gamers. In those
days it was hard to compete against pinball machines, and the previous
newcomer during that time, the foosball tables. But PONG endured, and I got
right good at it. Another one I liked (can't remember the name) was a game
which started out with a screen of dots which were equally distributed
on the screen. You had a "ball" which was the same size as the dots which
once it came up from the bottom would bounce around the top and sides and
any dot it ran over was erased. Going down the bottom of the screen lost
the ball. You got two or three balls per game. Object was to clear off the
screen of dots. Oh yes, you had a paddle at the bottom of the screen to
bounce the ball back up with.

I got my first video game late in 1976, a Breakout game I got from Sears.
I think it was made by Atari.

------------------------------------
 Zack C Sessions
 ColorSystems

 "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assimi ... OOOOHHH, DOUGHNUTS!"


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84959 16-JAN 18:35 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84955)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: WTHOMPSON (NR)

I agree with you to some extent. You should address your comment to Mark.

------------------------------------
 Zack C Sessions
 ColorSystems

 "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assimi ... OOOOHHH, DOUGHNUTS!"


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84962 17-JAN 02:18 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84958)
     From: REVWCP       To: COLORSYSTEMS

Zack,
I remember I was working for Lafayette Radio in New York while going to college.

I remember when Pong came out, 4 variations, tennis, handball, and I can't
remember the others, after all it was twenty(20) years ago.  I know what you
mean about being an oldtimer.  I remember calling a software vendor that
had advertised in Rainbow.  Their business hours were 3:30 pm - 8:300 pm.
I thought that it was strange, but perhaps it was to allow for time zones.
Anyway I got what I thought was a woman on the phone.  As we talked, for
some time, I was very impressed with the persons programming knowledge.
Finally, out of curiosity, I asked "Why those business hours."  "Well",
came the reply, "I get home from school at 3:15 and I have to get ready for
bed at 8:30".  How old are you, I asked.  "I just turned thirteen."  And
of course I remember the morning I was talking to Microcom Software and
the programmer helping me had to cut the call short, the school bus was
coming.  Gosh Zack, I'm getting old.  Thanks for triggering some memories,
maybe I need a 2 meg upgrade......
With all best wishes,
Brother Jeremy, CSJW
OS9 User's Group Treasurer

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84965 17-JAN 14:52 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84947)
     From: CBJ          To: COLORSYSTEMS

I know what you mean about missle commander Zack.  I had a marathon session of
a little over 4 hours before my hands were too cramped to continue.  Boy do I
wish I has a decent joystick back then.  I wouldn't mind seein some of the
better older games ported over but would also like to see new games as well.  I
like adventure games...I haven't seen too many of them for OS-9 (any flavor).
Seems to me there is an automatic opening for new games right there.  If you
have ever played starflight then you can see how OS-9 could really help a good
graphics based adventure game be more playable.  Bot do I wish we had enough of
a user base to attract companies like Electronic Arts to port some of their
games over.
 Carl

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84967 17-JAN 19:48 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84965)
     From: DSRTFOX      To: CBJ

Read msg 84949 if you want an arcade game for OS-9!

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84990 18-JAN 20:46 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84965)
     From: DAVGEORGE    To: CBJ (NR)

Yes, I like adventure games also.  But I am a die hard text adventurer.
I just can't get used to these graphical adventures.  I just downloaded
the Infocom interpreter and tried out the Infocom adventures that I have
for MS-DOS.  So far they all work!!!  All I had to do was copy the data
files from MS-DOS to OS-9.

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85005 19-JAN 03:23 Games & Graphics
     RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 84952)
     From: EARTHER      To: WTHOMPSON (NR)

My brother, Kevin, is writing a Doctor Mario game for OS-9 Level II.  It
looks impressive so far.  That's the game where you throw pills into a
bottle to get rid of viruses inside.

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End of Thread.

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84945 16-JAN 09:04 General Information
     RE: os9 vs. unix (Re: Msg 84928)
     From: PHILSCHERER  To: ILLUSIONIST (NR)

I can agree with you on the UNIX/OS9 comparison. I have used OS9000, SCO
and also OS2 on the same 486 and OS9000 is far and away better and easier.
<Phil>

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84972 17-JAN 22:51 General Information
     RE: os9 vs. unix (Re: Msg 84929)
     From: ROYBUR       To: BROWN80

 thank you. and also thanks to BANANAMAN, JOHNREED, ILLUSIONIST and PHIL-
 SCHERER (boy, i hope i got those all spelled right! 8*) i'll pass all this
 info on to the asker; he's DOS guy, btw...but i don't hold that against him!
 <G>.........roy

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End of Thread.

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84948 16-JAN 12:33 General Information
     RE: problem with os9k (Re: Msg 84914)
     From: DSRTFOX      To: COLORSYSTEMS

I guess you answered the only comment I truly had, as you mentioned a "6.2
utility". I assume you have the 6.2 upgrade then. I use "Stacker" on mine, have
never had any problems to date, but don't have OS9K either. OS-2 also has a
problem with Stacker AND
DoubleSpace, only it doesn't mess up the drives... checks for the driver, then
if it finds it refuses to recognize the drive (a friend has OS-2 on his
machine.. had to buy a bigger drive because of all this!). OS9K obviously
doesn't check for the driver be
fore trying to read, and therefore corrupting, the compressed drive. Hope that
helps some! Stacker has released a version for OS-2, don't know if it works
with DOS and OS-2 though, might be something to look into.. maybe the
compressed drives are protected
 in some way, or use a different method of deginating whetehr the drive is
compressed or not???

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85002 19-JAN 02:13 General Information
     RE: problem with os9k (Re: Msg 84948)
     From: JOSEFL       To: DSRTFOX (NR)

Yah.  Stacker and/or DoubleSpace don't know anything about OS9K nor
does OS9K know anything about such 'compressed' drives.  I am a bit surprised
that OS9K messes up things for MS-DOS.  I would think that theoretically it
shouldn't touch the DOS partition.  But OS9K does do writes to the disk at
times when you wouldn't think it would be. (i.e. 'chd')
I tried DoubleSpace on my system and OS9K could definitel NOT see the DOS disk
anymore.  So I took it off and bought a bigger drive.  This is pertinent to me
because
I need to be able to read the DOS side from OS-9000.

By the way, I used to be Tech support manager at Microware, and now that I am
independent
of the corporate grind, maybe I'll be able to answer a few more questions here.

Maybe I'll even learn how to type and space my messages! ;-)

Josef Laake

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End of Thread.

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84960 16-JAN 20:41 Applications (6809)
     RE: Profile (Re: Msg 84778)
     From: THETAURUS    To: ALWAGNER (NR)

        >>Have you considered transferring the data to Dcalc?

        That is an idea. I'll think about that one. It shouldn't be too
   hard. I may just end up buying IMS tho IF Wes still carries it, and it
   does what I need. I will be doing a lot of DB stuff in the near
   future.
        >Chris<

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84961 17-JAN 00:16 General Information
     UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9
     From: NICKJOHNSON  To: ALL

I've been inactive in this forum for a while, so I apologize if this
question has been asked before.

    I can't get UltiMuse III version 4.9 to work with NitrOS9. The program
will load, spit out "Um3..." to the screen (yes, it is a VDG), and then crash
after about a half-second of processing (I can hear it on the monitor speaker).
All functions are then locked up; apparently the interrupts get turned off,
since even thhe clear-key ceases to function.

    I've tried using the standard grfdrv, as I thought ultimuse might just
be having a conniption about 25 line screens, but that wasn't it. It also
won't run even with my old version of PowerBoost and standard grfdrv.

    What is the latest version of Ultimuse anyone can get to work with
NitrOS9?

    Nick

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84966 17-JAN 19:10 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84961)
     From: BANANAMAN    To: NICKJOHNSON

Which version of Nitros-9 are you using?  I've had similar problems with
version 1.07, but they were fixed with 1.15.
  Andy

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84979 18-JAN 01:41 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84961)
     From: WDTV5        To: NICKJOHNSON

   Hi   Nick; Gene Heskett (WDTV5) here. I'm running 4.7.2, ran it with 1.07
   and  1.15/1.16  now, no apparent problems *once* I'd patched vdgint  with
   the  correct patches from Wes G. & Co. for the 2 megs I've since put in.
   Prior  to that, I did have some weird problems, but not anything that I'd
   have  called a crash. My probs were not loading up the full song when  it
   was  running,  and  then  seeing all  those  memory  allocation  failures
   displayed  on  the green screen in those few milliseconds it was  visible
   before  the system de-allcocated the vdg screen on exiting. One for  each
   song  I  had  loaded. So the next Q is which version of Nitros9  are  you
   running?

   My  latest vdgint is $0D6D long, and has a CRC of $AFDFF4 as patched  for
   the  2 megs and 1.15 or 1.16. I'd offer to do a makpatch, but there  were
   apparently  several vdgints in the os9 distribution at various times.   I
   have  two copies of level 2, and the vdgints are different on each master
   copy.  I  got the second one used so it could have been patched  at  some
   point by the previous owner.

   Get back to me in email, I may have an idea.

   I'd  like  to upgrade to a later version of UmUse3, but so far have  been
   unsuccessful  with  my  correspondence to Ragtimer, or  to  Ed  Hathaway,
   KalaSoft,  3801 Brown Bark Drive, Greensboro NC 27410.  UmUse3 was up  to
   4.8.0   when   I  wrote  the  letter  requesting  a  COD  shipment.   Its
   4.9.something  now eh? That was in '92, you mean its '94 now? I've  heard
   of snail-mail, but this is sublime!

   Ragtimer,  if  you're  copying this, its time to reply! I don't  want  to
   appear  to be like this in public, but I now feel as if I don't have  any
   other  choice.  If I wasn't using the program, then I sure wouldn't  have
   spent  the  time  to work out the native mode patches for my  version  of
   Um3play and publish them for others not so fortunate in coding skills.

   NICK, *if* you are running native mode, then Um3Play will not drive  your
   keyboards  via  the bit banger as the effective baud rate of 31250 for  a
   midi driver is cranked up to approximatly 38000 by running in native mode
   due  to the pipelining of instructions by the 6309 in native mode.   Once
   you  get  the correct patches for vdgint, take a look here in  the  music
   database,  there are 2 sets of patch instructs for Um3Play that I know of
   there  which  will  restore  it provided they are  for  your  version  of
   Um3Play.  I've  no  idea how many diffferent actual versions  of  Um3Play
   might exist, but the patching I did is described well enough to allow the
   same  idea  to be applied at a slightly different offset in the file.

   I  first bought a hardware midi adapter and modifed an rs-232 pack with a
   3 megahertz crystal to drive it. I had visions of also recording thru the
   device, but apparently the 6551 I have in that pack won't receive at that
   clock  frequency.   I  expected to have probs with lost data, but  I  get
   absolutly  none  when  I open a path for reading from it! It drove  my  2
   keyboards  rather nicely but I also wanted to drive the bit-banger in the
   event  I  needed that slot in my mpi for something else.  The  patches  I
   uploaded were the result.  They'll also start it up from a multiview icon
   dbl-click.

   Cheers, Gene



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84983 18-JAN 11:24 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84979)
     From: MITHELEN     To: WDTV5

Mike hasn't called into delphi in almost a year... You'd have more luck trying
to reach him at his Internet address at "m.j.knudsen@att.com"

No idea on Ed Hathaway and KalaSoft... I know Mike talks with Ed periodically
so perhaps he can get you a current phone number, and make sure the mailing
address you have is current.
--
 Paul Jerkatis - SandV BBS (708)352-0948: Chicago Area OS-9 Users Group
 UUCP ...{balr|tellab5}!vpnet!sandv.chi.il.us!sysop
 Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com

 "Did you ever notice how cheep 99% of all BBS users are?" - Unknown

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84985 18-JAN 19:06 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84983)
     From: JOHNBAER     To: MITHELEN

>
> No idea on Ed Hathaway and KalaSoft...
>

  Sorry to bust in, but.. here's Ed's new number: 1 910 294 1558
  Hope that helps...

-
   John Baer
   johnbaer@delphi.com
   jbaer@pacs.pha.pa.us

   *** InfoXpress 1.01.00 ***

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84989 18-JAN 20:30 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84985)
     From: MIKE_GUZZI   To: JOHNBAER (NR)

isn't that 1-919-294-1558 and not 910 ??? north carolina?


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84993 18-JAN 22:23 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84966)
     From: NICKJOHNSON  To: BANANAMAN (NR)

I'm using Nitro version 1.15.

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84994 18-JAN 22:27 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84979)
     From: NICKJOHNSON  To: WDTV5

Try giving Ed a call: (919) 294-1558.

    I'm running ver 1.15 of Nitro, and I have not a clue about what is
causing the problems. Like I said, it wouldn't even run with Powerboost
in the non-native mode.

    I'll worry about patching Um3Play after I get the program to execute
in the first place :)

    I have the 2-meg upgrade, but I haven't installed it yet. I would suspect
that my problemnn       is most likely interrupt-releated however.

    Nick

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84997 19-JAN 00:48 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84979)
     From: KSCALES      To: WDTV5

Hi, Gene -

 > I  first bought a hardware midi adapter and modifed an rs-232 pack with a
 > 3 megahertz crystal to drive it. I had visions of also recording thru the
 > device, but apparently the 6551 I have in that pack won't receive at that
 > clock  frequency.   I  expected to have probs with lost data, but  I  get
 > absolutly  none  when  I open a path for reading from it!

Just a thought, tho you have probably already covered it.  Have you
connected the CD line to anything?  The 6551 refuses to see incoming
data unless the CD line is true.  (e.g., strap DTR to DCD.)

Regards... / Ken
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237

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85000 19-JAN 01:14 General Information
     RE: UltiMuse 4.9 w/NitrOs9 (Re: Msg 84997)
     From: WDTV5        To: KSCALES (NR)

Humm, I bet you've got something there! At the moment, I don't know about
the cd line, and its been several months now since I fooled with it. Guess
I'll have to move the snooper and find out.  In nearly 60 years, I've lost
a lot of things, but I miss my mind the most! :-)  Gene

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End of Thread.

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84963 17-JAN 03:18 OSK Applications
     RE: 144e_help (Re: Msg 84916)
     From: LARRYOLSON   To: RANDYKWILSON

Randy,
   Thanks for the info.
  I wasn't sure about that 6 wire cable, even though it seemed to work, so
I went back to that 9 wire cable. I just wasn't 100% sure I was using the
correct lines between the DB-25 & DB-9 on the 9 wire cable.

larry

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84964 17-JAN 09:03 Applications (6809)
     vdgint
     From: DONALDS      To: KSCALES

Ken;
 I have a Disto 2-meg upgrade and I tried the new VDGINT mod by Alan. But;
it crashes everytime I cannot get it to work infact I cannot get it patched
for 2-meg. Has there been a patch or some other way of getting this new
VDGint mod to work with the 2-meg upgrade?
         Don

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84973 17-JAN 23:24 Applications (6809)
     RE: vdgint (Re: Msg 84964)
     From: KSCALES      To: DONALDS (NR)

Don -

 > I have a Disto 2-meg upgrade and I tried the new VDGINT mod by Alan.
 > But; it crashes everytime I cannot get it to work infact I cannot get it
 > patched for 2-meg. Has there been a patch or some other way of getting
 > this new VDGint mod to work with the 2-meg upgrade?

Yes, the small VDGInt versions will only work with 512K.  Alan is
aware that there is a problem, but has been busied out with university
and other things lately.  He isn't sure when/if he will get a chance to
look at the problem.  There was a possibility of another user working
on it, but I don't know whether that happened.  I will post a message here
when there is an update.

Regards... / Ken
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237

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84984 18-JAN 18:27 Applications (6809)
     RE: vdgint (Re: Msg 84973)
     From: PHILSCHERER  To: KSCALES

Hi Ken--Did you catch my E-mail on the descriptor?? <Phil>

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84998 19-JAN 00:49 Applications (6809)
     RE: vdgint (Re: Msg 84984)
     From: KSCALES      To: PHILSCHERER (NR)

 > Hi Ken--Did you catch my E-mail on the descriptor?? <Phil>

Yes, and I made a note to myself to reply, but have been really busy lately.

It looks like that drive has characteristics similar to the Seagate ST225N,
so you could try that descriptor.

But I have a "better idea" -- I suggest that you get hold of Matt Thompson's
SCSISYS drivers.  My "scsi47.ar" package did its job, but time moves
forward, and I don't have the facilities to support it now.  And
Matt has now released a package with extra features and utilities.
It also supports sector sizes other than 256 bytes, but I don't think
that's necessary with your drive.

A share-ware version is available in the database here.  The registered
version contains several enhancements (including caching), and is now
distributed by Northern Xposure.  Contact Colin McKay on Internet at
"cmckay@UUISIS.ISIS.ORG" for ordering details (or send me email, and
I will forward it.)

Regards... / Ken
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237

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84968 17-JAN 22:37 OSK Applications
     CD-ROM for OSK
     From: DAVGEORGE    To: ALL

Is anyone using a CD-ROM drive on their OSK machine?

I have an NEC external CD-ROM that I would like to add on to
my KiX\30, and I need a driver for it.

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84999 19-JAN 00:56 OSK Applications
     RE: CD-ROM for OSK (Re: Msg 84968)
     From: WA2EGP       To: DAVGEORGE (NR)

I have one running on my MM/1.  I don't think the driver will work on your
machine.  Got it from Dirt Cheap Computer (MARKGRIFFITH).  I don't know if
he has one for that machine.

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84969 17-JAN 22:39 OSK Applications
     UUCP for OSK
     From: DAVGEORGE    To: ALL

Has anyone found a COMPLETE UUCP package for OSK that works?

I have GNU UUCP 1.04 (by Ian Lance Taylor) and I have started
to port it to OSK, but if someone has a better alternative I
am open.

Also, how about a UUCP mail package?  I have the TOP stuff, but
the docs on the mail are very weak.

Thanks.
David George

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84970 17-JAN 22:47 OSK Applications
     RE: UUCP for OSK (Re: Msg 84969)
     From: MRGOOD       To: DAVGEORGE

There is work going on for an OSK uucp package.  Boisy Pitre (BOISY)
can probably fill you in on the details.  Last I corresponded with him,
it should be released sometime this month.  I too have been waiting
a LONG time for an OSK uucp package.

Hugo

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84971 17-JAN 22:50 OSK Applications
     RE: UUCP for OSK (Re: Msg 84969)
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: DAVGEORGE

Rumor has it that there is a fairly complete UUCP package, with an elm-ish
mailer, currently in beta. I can not say any more, because I don't know any
more. :>

   Randy

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84978 18-JAN 00:42 OSK Applications
     RE: UUCP for OSK (Re: Msg 84971)
     From: MITHELEN     To: DAVGEORGE

Mike Haaland was working on putting together a complete UUCP package, with
SMail and CNews, and Elm... I _think_ he might have recently put it up on
the cabrales FTP site (I kinda recall seeing it there the other night whil
I was browsing)I don't know what News Reader he included...

I have Elm 2.4 PL21 running on my MM/1, with a ported  version of Rick Adams
UUCP 4.2 for the CoCo... Works OK... but not very robust.

I haven't treied to install Mikes package (He sent me the archives back in Dec)
mostly because I am working on setting up a Sun 3/160 Server as The SandV BBS
with all the "latest" UUCP/Usenet software. (All the software is actually
all set, just need to get the BBS interface working)
--
 Paul Jerkatis - SandV BBS (708)352-0948: Chicago Area OS-9 Users Group
 UUCP ...{balr|tellab5}!vpnet!sandv.chi.il.us!sysop
 Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com

 "Did you ever notice how cheep 99% of all BBS users are?" - Unknown

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84980 18-JAN 01:59 OSK Applications
     RE: UUCP for OSK (Re: Msg 84969)
     From: BOISY        To: DAVGEORGE

There is a UUCP package coming out for both OS-9/6809 and OSK very
shortly.  Bob Billson has been working on Rick Adams' UUCP 4.2 for
several years along with myself, Brad Spencer and a few others.  Bob
is integrating the package right now and getting ready to release it.

Also coming out within a week is a full port of PALM (an ELM-like
mail reader) for OSK.  This is an excellent program from Jeff
Shepler, who I think has done an outstanding job on it.  Right now
I'm fixing a few bugs with it and will be forwarding it to Jeff
in a couple of days, whereupon he will upload it to Delphi.

UUCP 2.0 and Palm make for a dynamite package.  And best of all,
it will come with source code which compiles under both OSK and
OS-9/6809.  The UUCP port still has a few bugs, but works fine
from my 68030 machine.

Hang in there... it's almost ready... <g>

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84991 18-JAN 20:56 OSK Applications
     RE: UUCP for OSK (Re: Msg 84978)
     From: DAVGEORGE    To: MITHELEN

Thanks for the info re: UUCP and mail.

I tried ELM once on my Unix system at work, but went back to mailx.
I will have to give it a second chance.

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84992 18-JAN 20:57 OSK Applications
     RE: UUCP for OSK (Re: Msg 84980)
     From: DAVGEORGE    To: BOISY

OK, I wil wait for UUCP 2.0 and Palm.
Thanks for the info.

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85003 19-JAN 02:26 OSK Applications
     RE: UUCP for OSK (Re: Msg 84992)
     From: JOSEFL       To: DAVGEORGE (NR)

Is there any plan to port this UUCP thang to OS9000?  Should be fairly trivial
if an OS-9 version is being done.  If the authors are listening,  I'd be glad
to help with the port.  Of course, I'd need the source... ;-)

Josef

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84974 18-JAN 00:12 General Information
     News story
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: ALL

And yet more evidence that the times do indeed change. The UPI newswire,
national news section, contains a book review... for the latest edition of
_The_New_Hacker's_Dictionary_ . :>

   Randy

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84975 18-JAN 00:18 General Information
     RE: InfoXpress (Re: Msg 84825)
     From: THETAURUS    To: TEDJAEGER

        >> Anyway, I'll bet youre going to like this program!

        Stop making me drool Ted! <grin>
        >Chris<

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84976 18-JAN 00:18 Games & Graphics
     RE: MM/1 Joystick (Re: Msg 84848)
     From: THETAURUS    To: AJMLFCO (NR)

        >>Here are two things to add to your demonstration list:

        Thanks for the advice Allen! I'll keep all that in mind. First
   meeting in the new place is tomorrow. :-)
        >Chris<

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84977 18-JAN 00:18 General Information
     RE: OS-9 Underground v.2 no.1 (Re: Msg 84930)
     From: THETAURUS    To: JEJONES

        >>I just got *OS-9 Underground* volume two, issue one. Strikes me
   as a milestone of a sort.
        Yeah, I was impressed also. Here's too at least 100 years of the
   Underground :-)
        >Chris<

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84981 18-JAN 04:21 General Information
     RE: display problems (Re: Msg 84908)
     From: JWILKERSON   To: ALWAGNER (NR)

   There is no doubt it is dirty.  Also, being a smoker, assures a nice buildup
of
gunk.  I can discharge the caps and spray out the thing.  I'm familiar with
the methods of dealing with high voltage sections, and can safely render
the monitor harmless before getting into any work.

Thanks for the info

          -- John

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84982 18-JAN 05:17 OSK Applications
     OPutBlk ()
     From: MREGC        To: ALL


    Has anyone else here tried using the OPutBlk (), (offset put block) call
in KWindows? Or, more to the point, has anyone gotten it to work?

    I can use the function. However, though it does only "put" the correct
*size* of the buffer I tell it to, regardless of what I set the offset values
to, it "puts" starting at the upper left hand corner of the buffer.

    As I understand it, the correct syntax is:

        OPutBlk (path,grp,buf,x,y,xoff,yoff,xlen,ylen);

    I don't even remember if this call has ever been documented, so perhaps
it was never perfected? Anybody got any ideas?

...Thanks...
...Eric...

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85001 19-JAN 01:31 OSK Applications
     RE: OPutBlk () (Re: Msg 84982)
     From: JOELHEGBERG  To: MREGC

Eric,

 > Has anyone else here tried using the OPutBlk (), (offset put block)
 > call in KWindows? Or, more to the point, has anyone gotten it to work?

I've not heard about nor have any documentation for that function.  Is
that the function that lets you put only part of a get/put buffer on the
screen, so theoretically you could have several icons in one get/put
buffer and select the one you want by knowing it's offset into the
get/put buffer?


  -- Joel Mathew Hegberg.

 Delphi   : JOELHEGBERG
 GEnie    : j.hegberg
 Internet : JoelHegberg@delphi.com


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85004 19-JAN 02:33 OSK Applications
     RE: OPutBlk () (Re: Msg 85001)
     From: MREGC        To: JOELHEGBERG

Joel,

  > Is that the function that lets you put only part of a get/put buffer on the
  > screen...

    That's exactly what it is. And, come to think of it, the example you gave
about multiple icons in one buffer is somethink Mike actually does in one of
his programs, so he function must work properly. Either I'm doing something
wrong or I've got an older version of the library.

...Eric...

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85007 19-JAN 05:44 OSK Applications
     RE: OPutBlk () (Re: Msg 85004)
     From: JOELHEGBERG  To: MREGC (NR)

Eric,

 > That's exactly what it is. And, come to think of it, the example you
 > gave about multiple icons in one buffer is something Mike actually does in
 > one of his programs, so he function must work properly. Either I'm doing
 > something wrong or I've got an older version of the library.

Yeah, I believe Mike uses it in DeskTop, and it's a nice K-Windows
feature.  It shouldn't be too difficult to write your own replacement
OPutBlk() function if it comes down to that.  :)


  -- Joel Mathew Hegberg.

 Delphi   : JOELHEGBERG
 GEnie    : j.hegberg
 Internet : JoelHegberg@delphi.com


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84986 18-JAN 19:42 General Information
     RE: Hi Speed number (Sprintnet/Tymnet) (Re: Msg 84893)
     From: STEWARD      To: JSHEPLER

  If you still live in Akron, OH like your /whois file says, then a 9600 baud
number for tyment is 434-0014.

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84987 18-JAN 20:21 General Information
     RE: Hi Speed number (Sprintnet/Tymnet) (Re: Msg 84913)
     From: JSHEPLER     To: JOHNBAER (NR)

John,

 Thanks for that number, it gave me a local access line, and it works! :)

-Jeff

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84988 18-JAN 20:21 General Information
     RE: Hi Speed number (Sprintnet/Tymnet) (Re: Msg 84986)
     From: JSHEPLER     To: STEWARD (NR)

 I'll give that a try, thanks!

-Jeff

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84995 18-JAN 22:46 General Information
     Microware in the WSJ
     From: FHOGG        To: ALL

Microware in WSJ

There is a very interesting article about Microware in The Wall Street Journal
no less! It is on page B1 of the Tuesday January 18, 1994 issue. The title is:
"Little Microware Aims to Be a Multimedia Giant" Even has one of those WSJ dot
ink pictures of Ken
 Kaplan. He looks good in the pic too. Talks about the CoCo and lots of other
very interesting things. Check it out.

Frank

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84996 18-JAN 23:47 General Information
     gnu
     From: TMF          To: ALL

Does anyone have a copy of gnuplot that I could get for my system iv?
If you do then I would be very grateful.
              Thanks   TOM (TMF)

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85006 19-JAN 03:40 OSK Applications
     Makpal_fix
     From: LARRYOLSON   To: ALL

  For those of you with a 3meg MM/1, and found that the save function
didn't work in the Makpal program that I had uploaded, no , it wasn't a
shareware thing. It was an errant pointer problem that didn't show up
on my 9meg MM/1.
  Thanks goes to Colin McKay for pointing out the problem and finding the
fix for it.
  So for those that are interested, the fixed version should be available
in the downloads, as soon as its ok'd.

  Thanks again Colin

 Larry Olson

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85008 19-JAN 05:44 OSK Applications
     RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85006)
     From: JOELHEGBERG  To: LARRYOLSON (NR)


RE: MakPal

 > So for those that are interested, the fixed version should be available
 > in the downloads, as soon as its ok'd.

Thanks for the great utility and for uploading a newer version, Larry!
Best wishes,


  -- Joel Mathew Hegberg.

 Delphi   : JOELHEGBERG
 GEnie    : j.hegberg
 Internet : JoelHegberg@delphi.com


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85009 19-JAN 06:33 General Information
     Looking for Keith March
     From: MARKGRIFFITH To: ALL

Hello!

I'm looking for the username for Keith March.  Does he have an account
here?  I looked through the member directory and found nothing.  Can
anyone help?


                  /************* /\/\ark ************/

                  (uploaded with InfoXpress Ver 1.01)

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