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21   yipee! MADE IT TO THE TOP AGAIN! (and NOW good 'ol PAM is back too!)
22 DEBORAH: The end of the text. Am holding the name of source till later.
23 text set in MA 126 (sorry...)
24    What, then, is the word "clouds" likened to?  "Clouds" would denote that which is vaporized (purified) from the dirty water
25 on the earth.  Water symbolizes the fallen man (Rev. 17:15).  Then we may understand that the clouds would signify the devout 
26 saints, whose minds are always in heaven and not on earth, completly reborn from the fallen race of men.  Again, "cloud" is 
27 often used, either in the Bible or in the classics, as a word representing a crowd (Heb. 12:1).  We may see that the word is
28 also used in that way, even today, in the languages of both East and West.  The pillar of clouds by day which led the 
29 Isrealites in Moses' course represented Jesus, who was to come later as the leader of the same nation; the pillar of fire by
30 night represented the Holy Spirit, who, as the object of Jesus, was to lead the Israelites by the fire of inspiration. From
31 the above, we know that Christ's coming on the clouds means that he will appear as the leader of the Christians, the Second
32 Israel, amidst a group of reborn saints.  As we have previously studied in detail, when Jesus answered the Pharisees' question
33 as to where the Lord would come again (Luke 17:37) by saying that where the body is, there the eagles will be gathered
34 together, he meant that the Lord would come to the place where the devout saintswould be gathered together, which signifies
35 the same thing as the coming on the clouds.
36    If we should thus interpret the cloud as a parable, we may as well think that the Lord came on the clouds at the time of 
37 the First Advent. This is because Jesus, though he was in fact born on the earth, was surely one who came from heaven, seen
38 from his significance and value, just as the Bible says, "The first man [Adam] was from the earth, a man of dust; the second
39 man [Jesus] is from heaven," (I Cor. 15:47); "No one has ascended into heaven but he who descended from heaven, the son of 
40 man." (John 3:13)  This is the reason why it was believed that the Lord would come on the clouds, even at the 
41 first coming (Dan. 7:13).
42 [EOT]
43 I wasn't leading you with a question just to dump this puppy on 
44 you, Deborah, I just found this the other day and thought you might
45 comment. (or anyone else who is interested)
46 Mike: see you at PCS Thursday?                            Aaron
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48    WHAT!?! no messages in 4 hours? what's on TV? space shuttle? war? what?
49                                                  Aaron
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52    Few have even noticed my presence.  I must have a fairly good 
53 representation of the shape these people have, only one has even eyed me
54 strangly.  I see people often going up to a counter and requesting some
55 sort of liquid.  I decide to follow suit.  The one who was watching me
56 comes over to talk,  what? Threats before actions cause the need? Must
57 be a very reactionary species.  I'll just have to make sure I'm on my
58 best manners.  I smile at the man and ask if he will join me. I request
59 a new container of liquid for my new 'freind'.
60                      >sethalat<
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62 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
63 IT APPEARS IN MY ABSENCE THAT I'VE MISSED QUITE ALOT. COULD SOMEONE FILL
64 ME IN? WHO HAS GOTTEN EVERYBODIES DANDER UP?
65 AARON: DID YOU HAPPEN TO CATCH MY RESPONSE A FEW DISCS AGO? I CAN'T EVEN
66 RECALL WHEN IT WAS A PUT IT ON. I'VE BEEN SICK FOR QUITE A SPELL. 
67 ANYHEY, THE ONLY ONES THAT WILL DESCERN CHRIST'S RETURN ARE HIS TRUE FOL-
68 LOWERS. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WITNESSED HIS ACSENTION AND ACTS 1: 10, 11
69 SAYS HIS RETURN WOULD BE IN THE SAME MANNER. ALSO SEE HEBREWS 9:28, ONLY
70 THOSE LOOKING TO HIM FOR SALVATION WILL SEE HIM. WITH THE EYES OF UNDER-
71 STANDING. CLOUDS IN BIBLICAL TEXTS DENOTE INVISIBILITY PHYSICALLY. I
72 WILL RETURN WITH MORE ON THIS LATER, I'VE BEEN ON TOO LONG ALREADY READING.
73 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!DEBORAH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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75 Mohammed: Can't say that you missed much. LeRoy's been pretty 
76 much sitting it out on the sidelines, waiting for something 
77 to happen. Alot of religion talk. Alot of new people testing
78 the waters. Maybe things will get more interesting now that 
79 you're back. We missed you. - Monsieur d'Autun and company
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83                    +------------------------------+ 
84                    ! Wanted Crew for 27' sailboat !
85                    +------------------------------+
86  
87            Racing experience good - Offshore talents better
88                   Looking for 3-4 people 18 yrs + 
89               Commitment and desire to - WIN - required 
90         Boat is a fractionally rigged, mylar sailed speedster
91                            Rates  2.2 P.H.R.F
92  
93    Planned races:
94   Sysco - Spring - Summer - Fall  series
95   P.Y.C.- Summer & Fall Series 
96   Six Pac
97   Bridge to Bridge 
98   Corinthian - Summer & Fall series
99   Parker Landing 
100   St. Helens  
101    and of course the M.T.  Friday nite beer cans 
102  
103   Since the greater part of sailing is the company on board, I cant
104 think of a more diverse group to sail with than those that can be
105 found on this backwater 
106   If your interested leave me a message here. I am not so much
107 looking for hired guns --- more like diamonds in the ruff.
108 And besides   FAST IS FUN 
109  
110 ::::::::::Alex:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
111  
112 ########################################
113 DEBORAH etal: Your explanation of the scriptures (and Aarons) are truly
114 grist for the mill. If as you say the second coming will be only witnessed
115 by those who already believe then it is of no avail. Surely, if such an 
116 event were to ever take place the ones to witness it should be those like
117 myself the unbelievers! Afterall isn't it your whole meaning in life to
118 convert and prostelize? What good would a second, abliet a third coming
119 do if only those who are already blinded by these myths can witness such
120 an event? I for one shall never believe till such time as this phenomenon
121 can be witnessed by ALL! Now try to answer these few questions without
122 citing from your book of myths, in other words just in plain english from
123 your own mind.
124 
125 ################C.Y.M.###############################5/2/84 10:00am#########
126 
127 To all who missed it, the party that was stranded in Portland used the Maryhill Stonehenge as a portal, and with the
128 Piper's help is now back in the Inn. As far as I know, no one was left behind (except for our craft, the good
129 ship IMPROBABLE).
130                 && The Mad Actor &&
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132   Yes, Gerbil, Thursdays are fine. Except for the 1st Thursday
133 of every month, when I have a PAUG meeting. Anybody else wanna
134 play/learn Traveller?                  Habitrail Harry
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137 Harry, I would, but to do so would be quite awkward at this time
138   The Gerbil knows why, and maybe he'll even tell you sometime.
139                   Fast Fred    BSAL
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141 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
142 C.Y.M. NO MY WHOLE MEANING LIFE IS NOT TO CONVERT OR PROSELYTIZE, BUT I
143 DO ENJOY DISCUSSING BIBLE TOPICS, MAINLY BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE REALLY
144 NOT AWARE OF WHAT THE BIBLE IS ALL ABOUT, AND MANY MAN MADE IDEAS AND
145 PHILOSPHIES HAVE CREPT INTO SO CALLED CHRISTIANITY DOWN THRU THE YE
146 YEARS. FOR INSTANCE PEOPLE THINK THE BIBLE SAYS AT DEATH YOU GO TO HEAVEN
147 OR HELL, IT DOESN'T. SOME SAY IT SAYS THE EARTH WAS CREATED IN 6 DAYS, BUT
148 IT DOES'NT, ETC. AS TO A SECOND COMING FOR THE BENEFIT OF UNBELIEVERS,
149 WHAT FOR? LOOK HOW TECHNOLOGICALLY BACKWARD THEY WERE IN THE FIRST CEN-
150 TURY, AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL DIDN'T ACCEPT HIM THEM EVEN THO EVEN HIS OP-
151 POSERES ADMITTED HE DID AMAZING, SUPERNATURAL THINGS. WHAT GOOD WOULD IT
152 DO TODAY? WHY WOULD A SUPREME BEING NEED TO CONVINCE UNBELIEVERS WHEN
153 THERE'S ALREADY ENOUGH EVIDENCE AROUND, YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT.
154 AARON:ANOTHER REFERENCE THAT'S ADDS A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING TO HIS RE-
155 TURN IS IN JOHN 14:2,3,19,22. HERE ONE OF THE DISCIPLES EVEN ASKED,"LORD,
156 WHAT HAS HAPPENED THAT YOU INTEND TO SHOW YOURSELF PLAINLY TO US, AND NOT
157 TO THE WORLD?" THE APOSTLE PAUL ADDS EVIDENCE TO AN UNSEEN PHYSICAL RETURN
158 IN 1 TIMOTHY 6:14-16, STATING THAT HE "DWELLS IN UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT, WHOM
159 NOT ONE OF MAN HAS SEEN OR CAN SEE." IN THE PREVIOUS ACCOUNT IN JOHN, VS 19
160 SAYS "THE WORLD WOULD BEHOLD HIM NO MORE." MANY TIMES SEEING CAN REFER TO
161 EITHER PHYSICAL OR MENTAL SIGHT, PERCEPTION WITH THE HEART AND MIND. IN THE
162 VERSE IN REVELATION YOU REFERED TO, IT IS NOT MEANT LITERALLY. A FEW VERSES
163 ABOVE THAT ONE, VS. 1, IT SAYS THE WHOLE BOOK OF REVELATION, IS A VISION
164 GIVEN IN SIGNS, SOME TRANSLATIONS USE THE WORD "PORTENTS", THUS NOT EX-
165 PECTED TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS LITERAL.
166   IN REGARD TO THE WORD "PAROUSIA" USED AT MATTHEW 24:3, MANY OLDER TRAN-
167 SLATIONS RENDER THIS "COMING", BUT MORE MODERN ONES HAVE A PHRASE LIKE,
168 "PRESENCE", OR "END OF THE AGE", OR "CONCLUSION OF THE SYSTEM OF THINGS".
169 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE OLDER HAS BEEN THE BASIS FOR THE EXPRESSION "SE-
170 COND COMING" OR "ADVENT" BEING THE LATIN VULGATE TRANSLATION. THIS PUTS
171 ALL THE EMPHASIS ON HIS ARRIVAL AT A CERTAIN PLACE, AND OBSCURES SOME OF
172 THE ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE WORD. OF COURSE NOW LEXICOGRAPHERS GENERALLY
173 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE PRESENCE OF THE PERSON IS THE PRINCIPLE IDEA CONVEY-
174 ED BY THE WORD. SEE "THE EXPOSITERS GREEK TESTAMENT" AND "VINE'S EXPOSI-
175 TORY DICTIONARY OF NEW TESTAMENT WORDS". VOL.1 PAGE 289, IN THE FIRST BOOK,
176 VOL 1. PAGE 208 IN THE SECOND.
177   ALSO IN THIS SAME CHAPTER TO SHOW THAT HIS PRESENCE WOULD NOT BE JUST A
178 MOMENTARY COMING FOLLOWED BY A RAPID DEPARTURE BUT IS, RATHER, A PRESENCE
179 COVERING A PERIOD OF TIME IS ALSO INDICATED IN VS. 37-39. HERE THE DAYS OF
180 NOAH  ARE COMPARED TO THE "PRESENCE OF THE SON OF MAN". SINCE THE DAYS OF
181 NOAH ACTUALLY COVERED A PERIOD OF YEARS, THERE IS BASIS FOR BELIEVING THAT
182 THE FORTOLD PRESENCE WOULD LIKEWISE COVER A PERIOD OF YEARS. THERE ARE 39
183 SIGNS GIVEN IN THIS CHAPTER THAT WOULD PROVE TO HIS DISCIPLES (VS.3) THAT
184 HIS PRESENCE HAD BEGUN, AND IN VS. 34, IT SAYS THEY WOULD ALL HAPPEN WITH-
185 IN ONE GENERATION, ALSO SHOWING A PERIOD OF YEARS INVOLVED. AS TO THE MEAN-
186 ING OF THE CLOUD..........................MORE LATER.
187 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?DEBORAH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
188 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
189 Here's something for all of you who are tired from the interminable
190 religious discussions.  It's an honest logic problem, and I will
191 post the answer tomorrow, unless people indicate they want more time
192 (assuming anyone cares).  If you choose to give the answer on the
193 board, bear in mind that you may spoil someone elses challenge.
194 Here goes:
195 
196 What is the next letter in the sequence -
197 
198 O T T F F S S
199 
200 The answer tomorrow, and a new problem.  Good luck.
201 ?????????????????????????????? QUIZMASTER ??????????????????????????
202 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
203  I don't mind people who want to discuss religion, but don't you believe in
204 letting some other peopl have a chance  to be on this system.  Don't you think
205 a 100+ lines is a little outrageous?
206 The disks get loaded to fast from people who leave such lengthy messages. 
207 Please don't leave such long messages.
208 
209                     Hedra Helix
210 
211 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
212 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
213 MR. HELIX: IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RELIGIOUS PARTS.....SKIP THEM. THAT'S WHAT
214 I DO WITH THE PARTS I DON'T WANT TO READ. BESIDES, NONE OF THEM ARE 100
215 + LINES, CHECK 'EM.
216 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!DEBORAH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
217 XRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXR
218 CYM - I would agree with DEBORAH in regard that their are an entremly
219 large number of religous people out there who do not make it their
220 goal in life to convert everybody they can to their beliefs. I have 
221 known many people for years before I even found out that they were
222 devoutly religous. It did not affect the freindship before nor after
223 finding this out. I see no justification for your view that anyone who 
224 professes to religous beliefs is somehow a bad person. I do agree with
225 you in that those who activly harass me are a pain in the neck, and
226 that those who deface public propertyare as guilty of crime as any
227 non-religous person, but neither does that make them any worse. I am
228 not a religous person myself, but I also recognize that my views are
229 not the only ones. Just because they ar valid for me, does not make
230 them valid for everyone.
231 DEBORAH - I disagree with your comment that proof for belief abounds.
232 Much of what has been shown to me as 'proof' has been on the order of 
233 UFO type stuff. Most of the rest simply uses its own self satisfying 
234 circle of proof of existance. The bible is one of these. Using the 
235 contents of the bible to prove itself is very poor logic. What little
236 other proof is simply of no value. The shroud of Turin as example.
237 So what about this, I would say that it has been reasonably well
238 proven that this item was used to wrap a man who may or may not have
239 been Jesus. The stains have been been reasonably well proven to be
240 made by blood. Yet this hardly proves that Jesus was anything other
241 then a hebrew who got himself martred, even if we assume that it was
242 indeed he who the shroud wrapped originally. The so called miricle
243 of the image on the shroud has also been reasonably proven to be a
244 natural occurance If it had indeed been wrapped around a man who was
245 bleeding from the various wounds. The shroud of itself proves nothing.
246 There, hows that? Now I've got both sides mad at me!
247 XRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXR REX XRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXRXR
248 
249 Hello? anybody out there? What am I doing here? I don't get it what is this all 
250 
251 *************************************************************************
252 PAM: IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU BACK FOR A BIT EVEN IF IT WAS TO JUST POP IN
253 AND CLEAN OFF A TABLE AND POP BACK OUT AGAIN.
254 DON'T BE SUCH A STRANGER, I MISS YOUR INPUT. HAVE YOU
255 EVER NOTICED HOW THINGS SETTLE DOWN WHEN YOU SHOW UP, AND THEN
256 GO WILD AGAIN WHEN YOU LEAVE? STRANGE HOW YOUR PRESENCE HAS SUCH A CALMING
257 EFFECT ON THIS MOLTLY GROUP.
258 AND WHILE I'M ON THE SUBJECT, D YOUR INPUT TO THIS MADNESS HAS BEEN
259 SOMEWHAT LACKING TOO. HAVE YOU GROWN TIRED OF IT ALL?
260 *********************** CISTOP MIKEY ***********************************
261 ==========================================================================
262 
263    Quizmaster: If I remember right that one has a trick answer, could you
264 come up with another problem, sequence problems are tough to give a 
265 difinitive answer to, it depends to much on the point of veiw of the
266 person giving the answer.
267 
268 ========================================-Evan-=============================
269 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
270 Quizmaster: At least give a decent puzzle.  I didn't even work up a sweat.
271 The answer is:
272                                      <<<E>>>
273 Try harder next time.
274 ++++++++++
275 Since everyone except Piper seems to be accounted for at the Inn,  what say
276 the rest of our merry group goes to
277 the Ruby Valley and tries to find an interesting phenomena to observe?  There
278 must be at least ONE reality where a group such as ours could be challenged.
279 Any takers??
280                                                         Milchar
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282 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
283 DEBORAH:
284 Its not that I do not agree with the 
285 religious messages, its just that they
286 are so long. It does not bother me to
287 read them, or even to have them on 
288 here it's just that they are so long.
289 Please forgive me if I have offended
290 anyone.I was just asking if they
291 could not make them so long.
292 
293                    Thank You,
294                    Hedra Helix
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297     
298                     OZZY OSBOURNE
299                          &
300                     MOTLEY CRUE
301         
302 
303 
304                                RULE!!!!!!!
305 
306 
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308 
309 REX: YOU HAVE VERY GOOD POINTS FOR ARGUMENT AND POSSIBLY YOU HAVE A 
310 VERY VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST RELIGION.
311 I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOUR POINTS. ONE THING THOUGH, I RESENT BEING PREACHED T
312 O AND WOULD RATHER BE LEFT ALONE THAN BOTHERED ALL THE TIME BY PEOPLE WHO
313 DEVOTE THEIR TIME TO A CAUSE WHICH MAY NOT EVEN EXIST.......
314 CONSIDER CLARKES LAW: ANY SUFFICIENTLY ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY IS INDISTINGUISH
315 ABLE FROM MAGIC.
316 COULD THIS EXPLAIN JESUS AND THE OTHER PHENOMENA (I.E., CLOUDS BEING PLASMA
317 FROM SOME SORT OF PROPULSION DEVICE.....).
318 ***************************************************************************
319 ALL: HOW ABOUT A NEW AND BETTER ARGUMENT...... ANARCHY!
320 I PROPOSE TOTAL DISMEMBERMENT OF GOVERNMENT. THEY SAY WE HAVE FREEDOM, BUT
321 THEY TAKE OUR MONEY, CONTROL WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO, AND IN GENERAL CON
322 TROL OUR LIVES, WHICH THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO INTERFERE IN.
323 THE GOVERNMENT STEALS YOUR MONEY, AND WE ACCEPT THAT AS A FACT OF LIFE.
324 THEY TAKE OUR LIVES IN THEIR HANDS (I.E. , THE DRAFT, NUCLEAR WARFARE)
325 IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN THIS MESSAGE OR THE ONEABOVE, LEAVE A MESSAGE
326 FOR UNBELIEVER. 
327 P.S.: SOME REALLY GOOD BACKGROUND FOR THIS ARGUMENT IS THE FICTION BOOK,
328 " THE PROBABILITY BROACH " WHICH TAKES A LOOK AT   ANARCHY AND HOW IT C
329 LD BE WORKED (MINIMAL GOVERNMENT)
330 REMEMBER: THE GOVERNMENT WHICH GOVERNS BEST,
331           IS THE GOVERNMENT WHICH GOVERNS LEAST,
332           AND THE GOVERNMENT WHICH GOVERNS LEAST
333           IS NO GOVERNMENT AT ALL.
334 (ANARCHY NOW!!!)
335                  *
336                 ***
337                 *** 
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340 A A A SAILING WE WILL GO  A SAILING WE WILL GO............
341 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
342 )()()()()()()()()()()()))()()()()()()(()()((())(()()()()()(
343 
344 
345 ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!
346    NOW FEATURING DISKWASHING DONE IN MY HOME.ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ......
347 FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET A DISK THROUGH THOSE LITTLE HOLES IN THE PHONE...
348 snicker snicker...titter...titter.....
349     
350     have a pleasant day
351 I'm not up on the bible but I'm sure we should keep on keepin' on
352 
353 
354 Not to presuppose but it does seem to me there are alternatives to ..
355 leaving such a lengthly message ie:
356 start your own christian bbs,use a second billboard that interesed persons
357 could download verbatim so we will not exceed our 600+ BBS
358 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
359 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::e=mc2:::::::::
360 
361 ################################################################
362 THE BEAST WILL RAVISH YOU ALL. BEWARE. THE BIBLE HOLDS NO TRUTH.
363 
364 #######################################DRAMBOUIE################################
365 
366 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
367 Rambouie: I fear not the beast.  Let him come, I shall enjoy dispaching him.
368 I think a #4 lightning bolt will do just fine, caddy.
369 
370 SPELLS, cont'd
371 11.  'Dispach beasts'
372 12.  'Detect Truth'
373 13.  'Ravish things as beast' (a VERY weak spell)
374 14.  'Make Killer Tomatoes into a very large glob of tomato paste'
375 15.  'Summon insects at picnic' (a Zero-level spell!)
376 16.  'Give large giants a large hot-foot'
377 
378 More to come... (as he threatens you again)
379                                                         Milchar
380                                                         (The Beast-Killer)
381 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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383 
384 I vote for the BEAST!  Me thinks some
385 religion is decreasing, due to lack of
386 interest!  Time will tell...
387 
388 To: The Unbeliever
389 
390   Please give more info...
391 I want to know more about OVERTHROWING
392 the government!
393 
394                   Have a nice DAZE,
395                   Hedra Helix
396 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
397   
398   FROM HAWTHORNE:THE DESIGNED
399   WELL ALL THE ANARCHISTS HAVE  ARISEN FROM THEIR DANK LITTLE
400 SELF AGGRANDIZING HOLES IN THE  MUD.  THEYVE DECIDED ON COMPLETE
401 SOCIAL COLAPSE AGAIN.  WELL LET ME POSE THIS FOR DEBATE,WHAT HAS
402 THE GOVERNMENT DONE WRONG THAT  A SINGLE VOTER COULDNT FIX?  SAY
403 ,WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT YOU VOTED?  OR DID YOU JUST GIVE UP
404 'CAUSE NO ONE UNDERSTANDS YA?
405   OF TO A LESS IMPOLITE [MAYBE  NOT] SUBJECT.  IF THERE IS A
406 SUPREME BEING WHY WOULD HE:SHE  BOG DOWN SOCIETY AND NICE CUTE
407 ONES TO WITH HOMAGE TO HIM?
408   TO QUOTE ADMIRAL KIRK'S THIRD EDDITION MEMOIRS AT THE CLOSE
409 OF THE 'SHADOW OF DOUBT' INCIDENT;
410   "AN INFANT WHETHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR A RACE--MATURES BY MAKING
411 IT'S OWN MISSTAKES,NOT BY THE   GUIDENCE OF SOME OMNIPOTENT BABY
412 SITTER!"
413   I FOR ONE WELCOME THE CHANCE  IF WE ARE GIVEN IT OF GOING OUT
414 ON A DATE TO THE STARS AS IT WERE.
415   QUIZMASTER:AHAH WELL I HAVE   FINALLY FOUND SOMEONLIKES
416 QUIZZES:WORK THIS LITTLE ONE OUT.
417   YOU HAVE TEN STACKS OF TEN    COINS EACH.THE COINS ARE ALL
418 HALF DOLLARS(.50$) BUT ONE STACK IS COUNTERFEIT.THE FAKES ARE
419 PERFECT IN EVERY DETAIL EXCEPT  WEIGHT ,THE FAKES ARE .1 OF AN
420 OUNCE OVERWEIGHT.
421   USING A SCALLE YOUR JOB IS TO FIND THE FAKE COINS,THIS IS
422 WHERE THE WHOLE DEAL GETS TRICKY YOU CAN ONLY PUT ON THING ON
423 THE SCALE.ITS BROKEN YOU SEE...
424   SO USING A SINGLE SHOT SCALE  YOU MUST FIND THEN COUNTERFEITS.
425 THERE IS NO TRICK ANSWER YOU    CANT GO BUY ANOTHER SCALE OR
426 ANYTHING OF THAT ILK.
427   IN THE SERVICE OF PAM...
428   FROM HAWTHORNE:THE DESIGNED
429 
430 ----------------------------------(<>)--------------------------------------
431  
432      Dew covered the spiderweb making it glisten like a chain of diamonds
433 in the first rays of sun. I had had better accomidations in the past, but
434 the large fallen log and a few fir boughs had made a comfortable, if a 
435 little uneven, place to spend the night. Drawing somthing that looked
436 much like a mechanical pencil from a jacket pocket, I set about arranging
437 some firewood I had gathered the night before. 
438      TWith the fire started by the laser and a packet of tea the
439 forest did not seem quite as dreary as it had last night. After following 
440 who appeared to be the apprentice into the fog for some distance I lost him
441 on the the scanner built into my reality transphaser. This could mean that
442 he either reality hopped or was obscured by magic, whatever it was it was
443 beyond my magical ability to find him. Looking again at the transphaser I 
444 noted that a very suitable looking anomaly was quite close, and after dousing
445 the fire I decide to head in that direction.
446      As I followed the trace in the display I came to a clearing with a low
447 wall enclosing the anomaly I was looking for, even here in Innisfall where 
448 such things are so common someone took the effort to mark this one, 
449 curious. Stepping over the wall I think I see a glint of jewel like red
450 in the mortar between the bricks, no, just a piece of quartz refracting the
451 early morning sunlight.
452      After a quick check for traps or other safeguards I set about making
453 some adjustments on the transphaser, while doing so I notice a peculiar
454 feeling of instability...
455 
456 
457       A small clap of thunder and the small meadow is again empty.
458 
459 ------------------------(<>)The Traveller(<>)------------------------------
461  I hope I spelled Innisfall right. From what book, game, imagination,
462 reality does Ruby Valley come from?
463 
464 ---(<>)---
465 
466 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
467 Well, one person claims my puzzle is too tough, and another says
468 that it is too easy.  Ergo, it must be about right!  Since this is 
469 still today, I won't say yeah or nay on the response given.
470 Hawthorne - That is a rather common problem.  Since I don't remember
471 the solution off the top of my head, and am reluctant to tie up
472 the board while pondering it, I shall get back later.
473 ????????????????
474 Well, I went home, figured it out, came back, reread the problem, and
475 discovered that I am confused.  Do you mean you can only put items
476 on one side of the scale?  How then do you use it, without a counterbalance?
477 Or, are you saying that it is a functioning balance scale, but it can
478 only be used once?  Or is this the actual puzzle - to figure out
479 your message?
480 I came prepared to say to split the stacks into 3 groups, 2 of 4 and
481 1 of 2 stacks.  Balance the two stacks of 4.  If they balance, the bad stack
482 must be in the group of two.  A simple matter then to balance those two
483 stacks.  If one of the groups of 4 is heavier, then the bad stack is in there.
484 Split that into 2 of 2, then split those.  This version of the puzzle
485 usually says that the counterfeit coin(s) is not the same weight, but does
486 not specify whether heavier or lighter, and gives three tries on the
487 scale.  
488 Please clarify.
489 ????????
490 Here's another sequence problem, a bit easier, and should be particularly
491 solveable by computer users.  Find the missing number:
492 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 22, 24, 31, 100, ??, 10000, 1111111111111111
493 
494 ????????
495 About the religious discussions:  I myself am not actively religious
496 or non-religious, so do not and will not get involved in them.  However,
497 I do not mind that others do, as that is part of the charm of the
498 Backwater Message System.  A potpourri of thoughts, ideas, and nonsense.
499 My only request is that these topics do not take an overproportionate share
500 of the disk space, and access time.  I also wish there was some way of
501 skipping past them when I am not in the mood, rather than watching the words
502 flow past on the screen while I fidget.  Alas, even the beloved Backwater
503 is not perfect.
504 Enough said.
505 ?????????????????????????????? QUIZMASTER ?????????????????????????????
506 To the above person who says there is no truth in the bible:
507 If none of it is true, then what of the Beast of which you are so fond? 
508 The Beast in our culture refers to the Beast of the Apocalypse, from the 
509 Revelation of Saint John. Thus you contradict yourself, unless of course
510 you're referring to a grizzly bear or wombat or something.
511                && The Mad Actor &&
512 ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
513 UNBELIEVER: I DON'T KNOW IF ANARCHY IS THE ANSWER, BUT I DO AGREE THAT
514 GOVERNMENT HAS IT'S PROBLEMS. I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS SUCH
515 A THING AS A WORKABLE HUMAN GOVERNMENT. BUT OURS DOES PROVIDE MINIMAL
516 SCHOOL, FIRE, AND POLICE PROTECTION. NOT ALL BAD.
517 !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!DEBORAH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
518 ########################################
519 DEBORAH: I do believe I owe you an apology; I wasn't refering to you per-se 
520 but to the teachings of the christian community as to prostelizing the 
521 word of god (lower case intended). I was raised in parochial schools and
522 I know of what I speak. If one professes to be a true christian then he/
523 she must "spread the word of God" ie the bible. If this is not done then
524 there is no salvation. Even though there are some good moral lessons in the
525 book, it is still debatable as to its validity eithe in its present form
526 or in the original (whatever that may be). To base ones whole existence on
527 this concept is totally undesirable to many and especially to me. To bring
528 a child into this troubled world and cram this stuff into his otherwise 
529 perfect mind is inexcusable. Believe what you will but don't, DON'T try to
530 make others decissions for them.
531 
532 ################C.Y.M.###############################5/5/84 9:55am##########
533 
534 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
535 MOTHER.......MOTHER..........WHERE ARE YOU MOTHER?..............I'M LOOK-
536 ING FOR YOU. THE DISHES ARE DIRTY, AND THERE'S NO DINNER IN THE OVEN......
537 ........MOTHER?..........IS THAT YOU?                           FATHER
538 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
539 ****************************************************************
540 AND THE TABLE WAITS PATIENTLY FOR PAM TO COME ALONG AND FINISH
541 IT OFF. SITTING HERE IN LONLY SOLITUDE. POOR OL' THING.....
542 ********************: CISTOP MIKEY ******************************
543 /Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z
544 I believe that the human race is stonger and more survivable as a group,
545 and therefore need a type of government.  The best government for a group
546 of humans is a government that acts like a human... a human has survived
547 all of these centuries because of it's adaptability to its habitat.
548 The government that controls this race without separating it is one that
549 will adjust as the race does, and therefore become more survivable with
550 the human race.....The problems of this government are not directly
551 its policies, but are its traditionalized minds of the people, who hold
552 it back from adjusting as the people do, and allowing the instict of
553 survival to be apparent in the society as a whole. 
554 /Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/ XENON /Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z/Z
555 NOT BAD DEBORAH AND ARRON, BUT WHOEVER DECIDES NOT TO BELEIVE CAN NOT BE FORCED
556 TO CHANGE THEIR WAY "THE LORD GAVE THEM OVER TO THEIR DEPRAVED HEARTS".

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