

#: 12701 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    26-Oct-91  12:17:18
Sb: #G Windows
Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
To:  76703,4227 (X)

Kevin:

Can you give me the latest info on G Windows?

Keith

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#: 12704 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    26-Oct-91  12:56:35
Sb: #12701-#G Windows
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Keith H. March 70541,1413 (X)

Keith - info on G-Windows?  What do you need to know?  Ed Gresick can probably
tell you anything you wish... he had it running on his System IV at the fest.
Looked pretty neat!

kev

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#: 12715 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    27-Oct-91  10:15:29
Sb: #12704-G Windows
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kev,

I, for one, would also like to hear about some of the accomplishments of the
two other OSK box distributors. Far and away, Paul has posted more information
regarding the MM/1 than have Ed or Frank relative to their boxes.

Give 'em a nudge if you 'see' them!

Steve

#: 12702 S15/Hot Topics
    26-Oct-91  12:19:26
Sb: I/O Boards - MM/1
Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413
To:  73477,2004

Paul:

I would like to order the i/o board, but I need some more infomation on it. Is
it avaibable?

Keith

#: 12703 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    26-Oct-91  12:55:11
Sb: #12696-#multivue
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X)

Ev - I think others have mentioned how to get gshell 1.24.

Umm... memory utils... do you have mmap and pmap?  Do a "bro util*" in Lib 10
and download the three files you find.  They're some tools to help see what's
going on.

cheers - kev

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#: 12714 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    27-Oct-91  09:04:49
Sb: #12703-multivue
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Kevin,

Might Everett's lockup problems while using Gshell and his BBS simultaneously
be caused by the fact that Gshell shuts off interupts when the menu bar is
rolled over from menu to program and back to menu?  Also, doesn't the Hi-Res
Mouse adaptor cause CC3IO to shut down interupts while it's calculating the
"pointer" position?  Seems like you mentioned these to me some time ago, when I
was having trouble keeping my GShell and my terminal program going at the same
time.

Lee

#: 12752 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  22:14:01
Sb: #12689-#multivue
Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Can you explane how to read mmap and pmap?



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#: 12757 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    29-Oct-91  00:13:03
Sb: #12752-#multivue
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366

MMap is pretty straight forward.  It shows the use of the 64 (or more, if you
have a fixed mmap and more than 512K) 8K blocks in your system.  Example:

    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
 #  = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
 0  U M M M M U M U M M U U M M U M   <-- boot modules and commands
 1  M M U M M M M M M M M M M M M _
 2  M _ _ _ M M _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 3  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ U U M   <-- video mem and kernel

They're arranged in hex layout.  The upper left is block $00, the bottom
rightmost is block $3F (63).  "M" means the block is being used for modules(s).
"U" means it's just used for data/graphics.  "." means you don't have any
memory there, and "_" means the block is free.

OS-9 loads the bootfile and commands into the lowest free block numbers. On the
CoCo-3, the uppermost blocks are allocated downward for video memory, because
graphics memory must be contiguous.

You can use the output of "dirm" or sometimes "mdir e" to check and see what
modules are in what block numbers.  The main use for "mmap" is to get a better
visual feel of where your memory blocks are going to :-)

BTW, your mmap output will probably bogusly show "U" where mine has "M"s in the
first few blocks... that's because the original CoCo L-II had to do some tricks
to allocate bootfile memory.
 <cont'd in reply>

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#: 12758 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    29-Oct-91  00:13:32
Sb: #12757-multivue
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

 <cont'd>

PMap is far more informative.  It shows which block numbers are allocated (and
where they will be mapped) for each process.  It visually demonstrates that
data memory is mapped in at the bottom of each process' 64K map, and that
modules are mapped in a the top.  It also lets you diagnose problems where you
run out of process map memory (error 207).

  ID   01 23 45 67 89 AB CD EF  Program
 *---  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  -------
   1   00 .. 05 01 02 03 04 3F  SYSTEM   (kernel)
   2   07 .. .. .. .. .. 08 09  shell
   3   0A .. .. .. .. .. .. 0D  PMap
   4   0B .. .. .. .. .. 08 09  shell
   5   12 .. .. .. .. .. 08 09  shell

Here, we see that the kernel itself has allocated blocks 0,5,1,2,3,4 and $3F.
Combined with SMap, we can know exactly how much memory the system can still
allocate for the kernel (for proc descriptors, etc), and we see one empty spot
where another 8K block (or module) could be mapped/linked in.

The shell module is obviously merged in with other modules, in blocks 8,9...
because we can see it mapped in all shell procs.  But each shell has a
different data block (on the leftmost of its line).

The ID is the process id number.  The numbers across the top are useful for
people heavy into debugging/etc... they give the logical address within the 64K
maps.  That is, the first 8K block is from $0000-$1FFF.  The second 8K block is
from $2000-$3FFF, and so on.

PMap is pretty handy with Basic09 stuff... because you can see your basic09 map
getting filled up as subroutines are linked in (like gfx2, etc).  Ask again
about anything that seems unclear. - kev

#: 12705 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    26-Oct-91  14:16:47
Sb: #End of files
Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
To: all

How do I use the "eof" syntax in basic09 to find the end of file on a diskfile?
Do I have to read the entire file to get the end pointer? This is using random
access by the way I want to set up a checking account file. when I update I
want to add to the end of the file I am familar with disk basic files and know
how to use "eof" there. I am trying to learn basic09 because it looks very
inviting and "Fast". Thanks, Denise

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#: 12711 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    26-Oct-91  22:21:55
Sb: #12705-End of files
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X)

The best way to do what you're after is to use a getstat call to determine the
current length of the file.  Check out the syscall procedure, along with page
8-113 in the CoCo 3 OS-9 Technical Manual.

#: 12713 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    27-Oct-91  00:26:11
Sb: #12705-#End of files
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X)

Denise,

Basic09 is neat.  Great for writing quick little tools and packing them into
new commands.  One way to seek to the end, is to use the Syscall subroutine
to access a low-level OS-9 status call, to get the filesize.  Then seek
to that spot and start adding on from there.

WARNING: seeking to a higher
number will always expand the file to that size.  Do NOT do something like
a "seek #path,4000000" because it'll try to grab 4 megabytes from your
disk... and all you can do is wait until it gets it or errors out <grin>.
Anyway, here's a sample you can run on a small ascii test file you've made:

PROCEDURE filesize
TYPE stack=CC,A,B,DP:BYTE; X,Y,U:INTEGER
DIM regs:stack
DIM path:BYTE \(* BYTE not INTEGER in this case

DIM I_GetStt:BYTE \I_GetStt=$8D
DIM SS_Size:BYTE \SS_Size=$02

INPUT "file ",f$ \ (* get a test file name that exists
OPEN #path,f$

regs.A=path
regs.B=SS_Size
RUN syscall(I_GetStt,regs) \ (* get the filesize

high=regs.X
IF high<0 THEN 
high=65536.+high
ENDIF 
low=regs.U
IF low<0 THEN 
low=65536.+low
ENDIF 
filesize=high*65536.+low
 
PRINT "filesize=",filesize \ (* print the filesize
SEEK #path,filesize \ (* seek to end of file
PRINT #path,"*test" \ (* optionally, add a string to the file
CLOSE #path
END 

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#: 12748 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  18:38:38
Sb: #12713-End of files
Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

Thanks Kevin, I'll try that and experiment Huggs, Denise

#: 12706 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    26-Oct-91  17:38:21
Sb: #gshell
Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
To: all

I have done the Gshell upgrades and all that happends is it ask for Gshell in
/d0!! How do I remove this?(make it /hd)



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#: 12712 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    27-Oct-91  00:25:21
Sb: #12706-#gshell
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X)

Ummm.  Asks for gshell in /d0?  I'm not sure what you mean.  Hmm.  Try this:
make sure you don't have the "autoex" command in your CMDS dir.  Boot up
normally, then run "gshell".

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#: 12718 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    27-Oct-91  10:56:23
Sb: #12712-gshell
Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

After the mod is done it asks for gshell in /d0 not /hd. What do I do now?



#: 12707 S3/Languages
    26-Oct-91  19:07:57
Sb: #12697-#OS9 Assembly
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

One of my favorite passages of scripture.  -Br. Jeremy, CSJW

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#: 12709 S3/Languages
    26-Oct-91  20:43:17
Sb: #12707-#OS9 Assembly
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

I knew there was something I liked about bears.



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#: 12728 S3/Languages
    27-Oct-91  22:45:12
Sb: #12709-OS9 Assembly
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

Dear John: When I was in seminary, and more worried about hair loss, I
remembered reading
 about an Old Folk cure of massaging Vicks Vap-O-Rub into the scalp. I can't
 say that it did anything for the hair, but my sinuses were great. Well I guess
this Forum Thread is wearing thin, (at least my hair is)... With all best
wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW

#: 12710 S3/Languages
    26-Oct-91  20:50:55
Sb: #12693-OS9 Assembly
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

Whew! Just checked.  Two bears and they were she-bears yet.  Gonna have to show
that one to a couple nephews.

#: 12749 S3/Languages
    28-Oct-91  20:10:44
Sb: #12660-OS9 Assembly
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203

You can also call Motorola and ask for their free 6809 software book!

#: 12708 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    26-Oct-91  19:55:12
Sb: #Hard Ware
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: David Betz, 76704,47 (X)

Dear David: Good luck of a sort. I believe that Howard Medical (312-278-1440)
might be of some help. I see that they had a supply of Disto 3-in-1
 boards. I have also managed to locate a SC-II and a 4-in-1, but the owner said
that they are slightly defective, but repairable. I don't
 know what this means, but I will try and find out. He wants $30.00 for the
set, plus postage. Let me know what you think. He is on Delphi,
 so if you do not have an account there, let me know and I will contact him.
 I am inclined to tell him to send them to me C.O.D. and then wait for your
 decision. Boards needing repair may be our only option, I don't know. I will
be waiting for your reply. With all best wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW ps. I also
have located a Mini expansion board.

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#: 12741 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  08:19:01
Sb: #12708-#Hard Ware
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X)

Slightly defective but repairable, eh?  Well, I'm not a hardware engineer, so I
don't think I'm in a position to repair them.  I wonder if he knows what sort
of repair is required?  Anyway, I appreciate your work in locating the SC-II
and 4-in-1.  I'll give Howard Medical a call to see what they've got.  Thanks
again!

David Betz

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#: 12753 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  22:26:26
Sb: #12741-Hard Ware
Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142
To: David Betz 76704,47

I will try to find out exactly what is wrong with them. --Br. Jeremy, CSJW

#: 12716 S15/Hot Topics
    27-Oct-91  10:27:03
Sb: #updates?
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ed 76576,3312 (X)

Ed,

Long time no talk!

I was just observing to Kev that we haven't seen any updates from Delmar in
some time. How about posting something on your windowing alternatives .... or
perhaps just a update?

Anything we can do to help?

Steve

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#: 12733 S15/Hot Topics
    28-Oct-91  03:45:43
Sb: #12716-#updates?
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)


 Hi Steve,

 Yes, it has been a while.

 We've just been quietly selling and shipping machines.  There are some
 new things in the works and we'll announce them when we're ready.

 But, we are getting ready to announce G-Windows.  I see Frank (FHL) has
 already posted the 'sales pitch' for G-Windows.  And he's done a good
 job of describing it.  We do have one advantage with the SYSTEM IV over
 the TC-70, better resolution - up to 1024 x 768 x 256 if you want it.
 I'll post details soon.  We are also looking at another GUI/Windowing
 system.  Quite a bit different.  Can't say whether it's better or not -
 this is a very subjective thing.  Also, we have an in-house project for
 a TUI/Windowing system for text only systems in the works.  Be very
 similiar to a GUI except it's designed for all but the dumbest text
 terminals.

 Re K-Windows for the SYSTEM IV, you might want to 'observe' to Kev to
 'get on the ball' <g>.

 Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO

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#: 12740 S15/Hot Topics
    28-Oct-91  07:46:18
Sb: #12733-#updates?
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)

Ed,

Just trying for some balanced  coverage here in the forum. Keep us posted on
the developments as you're ready.

Steve

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#: 12746 S15/Hot Topics
    28-Oct-91  15:38:19
Sb: #12740-#updates?
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)


 Hi Steve,

 Yes, it's me again - twice in one day.  Perhaps your request for updates
 was transmitted to the 'powers to be' re G-Windows via mental telepathy.
 At any rate, some good news.  We reached an agreement this afternoon.
 All that needs to be done is sign the paper work.  In the meantime, a
 Port-Pak should be in my hands in about two weeks and we can do the formal
 port.  Shouldn't take too long.  A demo package will be available shortly.
 Additionally, we will be offering a separate package for programmers who
 wish to write software to run under G-Windows.  This will provide hardware
 independence!

 I'll have a formal announcement up in a couple of days.

 Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO
 302-378-2555

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#: 12750 S15/Hot Topics
    28-Oct-91  20:44:41
Sb: #12746-updates?
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312

Well Ed .... glad we could be of help!  :-)

Looking forward to the offical announcement!

Steve

#: 12717 S15/Hot Topics
    27-Oct-91  10:29:06
Sb: #updates
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Frank 70310,317 (X)

Frank,

As you can tell from a couple other messages, updates from FHL have been
missed. Any chance of you bringing us up to date on the state of things with
your offerings?

Anything we can do to help ....

Steve

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#: 12725 S15/Hot Topics
    27-Oct-91  21:00:24
Sb: #12717-#updates
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

OK will do. As a matter of fact I just uploaded 3 messages to DELPHI forum.
Number 48827, 48828, and 48829. If your in a hurry. I'll upload those same
messages here right now!

Thanks for asking!

Frank



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#: 12736 S15/Hot Topics
    28-Oct-91  07:39:24
Sb: #12725-updates
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X)

Thanks Frank. Any new information on your systems is welcome ... as always.

Steve

#: 12719 S7/Telecommunications
    27-Oct-91  14:15:48
Sb: #12541-Help w/ Sterm
Fm: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Thanks!!! I would have NEVER EVER have figured that one out! I have a good CRC,
etc. on the module, so if I just transfer those two files to that dir it looks
like it just might work, after all. I'll let you know.
                                                   Thanks again,
                                                   Bruce Baker

#: 12721 S7/Telecommunications
    27-Oct-91  18:27:19
Sb: #12546-#Help w/ Sterm
Fm: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

I did have all the files. When I put the termcap and ttytype files in my
 /dd/sys dir the program finally executed (once I got the xmode to /t2 set
correctly - that is, xmode /t2 baud=03 type=10. That sets up for 1200 baud [for
my modem] and modem kill switch on [again, for my modem]) In fact, I'm using
sterm right now! But... NOW I have another problem.
   The opening screen for sterm has several different functions, all of which
could be desirable options at one time or another, but HOW does one access
them? For example- [Esc. D - change directory] I can't seem to generate the
Escape character. I've tried <ESC>, <SHIFT><ESC>,<CLEAR><ESC> etc. and nothing
seems to work. Any ideas?
                                        Bruce

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#: 12722 S7/Telecommunications
    27-Oct-91  19:31:00
Sb: #12721-Help w/ Sterm
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137

It took me a while to figure it out for I had no docs at all when I first got
sterm, albeit an older version.  Both my original 1.2 and the new 1.5 work the
same way.  First hit a ctrl-break to generate the ESC character. Release the
keys.  Then press the letter.  Example (to change directory): Press and hold
CTRL, then press BREAK.  Release both.  Press and release D. sterm now asks for
the new directory, which is where your downloads will be put until you change
again.  Do this Ctrl-Break twice in succession if you need to send an ESC
character over the modem.

#: 12745 S7/Telecommunications
    28-Oct-91  11:36:11
Sb: #12721-Help w/ Sterm
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: BRUCE BAKER 73747,3137

Bruce -

Glad it's all rolling now. I'm sure you've had a response, but you generate ESC
by using CTRL+BREAK.

Pete

#: 12720 S1/General Interest
    27-Oct-91  17:27:17
Sb: #Disk format advice
Fm: Barry L. Bond 72235,1530
To: All

Long lost greetings!

     I'm back seeking advice!  Disk formats are among my least knowledgeable
areas of OS9.  I have a TC70 and would like to write some backup data to 5.25"
floppy disks in a format (std?  stdd?  <grin>) which would be best should I
ever decide to read these disks on another OSK system (System IV, MM1, or even
a VMEbus system).

     What descriptor settings/format should I use to best accomplish this goal?

     I'm still financially unable to be here with the frequency I used to be,
but I'll be popping through every now and then!  Just a warning!  :-)

     Barry

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#: 12734 S1/General Interest
    28-Oct-91  03:46:30
Sb: #12720-Disk format advice
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Barry L. Bond 72235,1530


 Hi Barry,

 Long time no talk - hear you have a UUCP link going?  Care to share
 details?

 Assuming you have Version 2.4 of OSK, the recommended format (by MW) for
 media interchange is the Universal Format - 16 sectors/track all tracks,
 track and sector offsets of 1.  If you want to interchange disks with
 people who don't have 2.4, I suggest using the 'MIZAR' format.  This is
 16 sectors/track all tracks, track and sector offsets of 0.

 Stay in touch.

 Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO

#: 12723 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    27-Oct-91  19:46:28
Sb: Pulling MultiVue Apart
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

Exactly what does the Autoexec file in MultiVue do?  I would like to be able to
use my MultiVue boot disk for all OS-9 boots rather than just for launching
MultiVue.  If it is not necessary to keep autoex as autoex, I'd like to rename
it to StartMV or something like that.  Then I can use a utility I found called
OptStart so that on bootup I can press the space bar to launch MV or not press
it to boot normally.  And if I want to use MV later in a session, I can type
/d0/cmds/StartMV rather than putting the MultiVue boot disk in /d0 and typing
reset<CR> to reboot.  Also, whenever I quit MultiVue, the screen clears and my
pointer is where I last left it. But there's no OS9: and the system is totally
locked up.  To make the aforementioned more useful, it would help if I can
return to OS-9 instead of having to reboot.  All this nearly makes MV a 3rd
operating system to me. Is there anything I can do?  Finally, the manual states
a limit of 5 devices may be defined.  Is this 5 RBF + 5 SCF devices =10 total
or 5 total devices whether RBF or SCF?

#: 12724 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    27-Oct-91  20:32:07
Sb: #DL 10 file recovery?
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: [F] Mike 76703,2013 (X)

I'm embarrassed to say that when I moved my CoCo down to Oklahoma for my niece
to use, I did *not* grab certain stuff that would be useful, one part of which
is some fonts I edited and uploaded here.  Would it be possible to get them
back?  I browsed for them, and they appear to have vanished from the DLs. 
Thanks.

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#: 12737 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    28-Oct-91  07:41:12
Sb: #12724-#DL 10 file recovery?
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)

I'll check when I get home and see what I have in the online archive James.



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#: 12738 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    28-Oct-91  07:44:28
Sb: #12737-DL 10 file recovery?
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X)

Thanks--actually, I found it on a BBS where I uploaded it, so you needn't
bother.  I'm using the italics font now, as a matter of fact.

#: 12726 S15/Hot Topics
    27-Oct-91  21:39:07
Sb: uploads
Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317
To: sysop (X)


I have uploaded the following files to dl15. FST_TC.70, TC70.INF and G_WIN.INF


I also erred and uploaded to other files that I ask you to delete. That, BTW is
what the files say.

Thanks

Frank Hogg



#: 12729 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    27-Oct-91  23:12:49
Sb: #Disk Controller Needed
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: All

Does anyone have a DISTO SCII they would like to sell?  Mine crapped out after
years of service and I can't boot my CoCo3 now.  If none are available, does
anyone have a Radio Shack disk controller they would like to sell cheap?  At
least I can boot with that.

Thanks in advance, Mark

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#: 12742 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  08:23:37
Sb: #12729-#Disk Controller Needed
Fm: David Betz 76704,47
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

I've got an extra RS disk controller you can have.  Just send me your address
and I'll mail it out.

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#: 12751 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  22:03:21
Sb: #12742-Disk Controller Needed
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: David Betz 76704,47

David,

Thanks!!!!  I sure do need something.  Until I can fix the SCII, I'm stuck
without most of my applications.  Although I have the MM/1, I do all my
financial and word processing on the CoCo3.  Sure hurts to be without it for so
long......I have no idea what my bank balance is right now!!

My address:

        Mark Grifith
        953 W. Wisconsin Ave.
        DeLand FL 32720

Let mw know what you want for it.

Mark

#: 12731 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  00:33:32
Sb: #Changing /dd
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

In "The Rainbow Guide To OS-9 Level II:...", the author talks about /dd and
mentions that it's possible for /dd to point to a RAMdisk since /dd is merely a
copy of a device descriptor.  Since this is a change I want to effect, can I
make a copy of my /r0_256.dd and patch to name it DD, then insert it into my
os9boot where I now have /ddd0_40d.dd?  If my scheme won't work, what ought I
do instead?

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#: 12735 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  03:51:53
Sb: #12731-#Changing /dd
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Yup, that should work fine (patching a copy of R0 to be DD).  Of course, make
sure your startup file doesn't do any /dd references <grin>... unless the
needed files are already copied out to the ramdisk.

The only problem I can think of, would happen if your Init or Sysgo modules had
been patched to look for /dd.  Just take a look at them and make sure.

best - kev

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#: 12743 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  08:59:49
Sb: #12735-#Changing /dd
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

I've never patched Init.  I don't have a SysGo but my CC3Go has never been
patched either.  (Were you thinking of Level 1?(g)).  Why would these be
patched to point to /dd?  My guess is for those who have a hard drive and want
a ddh0_80.dd or whatever, right?

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#: 12747 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  18:02:57
Sb: #12743-Changing /dd
Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

GRIN.  Right on /dd.  And right after I posted, I realized that I was thinking
of "sysgo" for the 68K systems :-)   But I knew you'd know what I meant to say.
I think my brain is rotting away!

thx - kev

#: 12732 S7/Telecommunications
    28-Oct-91  00:42:19
Sb: #Quick-B Problems
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

I've been using STerm 1.5 with the Quick-B option enabled, and whenever I
download in Quick-B I get a lot of errors, esp. in the beginning of the
transfer.  On a 100K file, STerm's error count increased much faster than the
block count for the first 15K or so, then slowed down--but I had errors til the
end.  This problem happens with every download in Quick-B and never happens
with a download in regular B where I may have downloaded files as large as 200K
with no errors.  These downloads are usually at 2400bps though I have tried
1200.  I used esc-d to set the directory to r0 prior to logging on.  I am using
/t2 under ACIAPAK with an expanded buffer though I intend to install SACIA
soon.  The RS-232 pak is the "Marty Goodman pak" sold by CoCoPRO! and the modem
is a Supra 2400 which does not support compression or error correction.  Is
there anything I can do about this problem?

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#: 12739 S7/Telecommunications
    28-Oct-91  07:45:15
Sb: #12732-#Quick-B Problems
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X)

Erich,


Do you have the IRQ hack installed? If you're missing interupts, you'll see the
type of problem you describe with B+ protocol.

Steve

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#: 12754 S7/Telecommunications
    28-Oct-91  22:55:16
Sb: #12739-#Quick-B Problems
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

   Along this thread: I installed the newest version of STERM (1.5?) and also
SACIA and am using a Disto Deluxe RS-232 pak. When downloading with Quick-B to
/r0 I get about 1 error every 10 blocks; not as many as Eric but I used to get
NO errors. Seems to me this corresponded in time to when CIS changed their
library software again. Any ideas?
                                                         Paul R.

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#: 12760 S7/Telecommunications
    29-Oct-91  07:35:49
Sb: #12754-Quick-B Problems
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413

Interesting Paul!

While it's easy to pin the blame on the XDL software recently installed, I've
not heard of anyone else (outside our forums) reporting protocol type errors.
And wouldn't have expected to, either. But I'll keep my eyes peeled.

I'd look towards anything that may be different on your setup. Are you running
any background process while downloading? Do you get the same errors while
uploading?

What did you use before installing SACIA? Were you using the irqhak at the
time, and now have discontinued it's use because of SACIA?

Get the magnifying glass out, and look for the obvious. It's generally the
culprit with things like this.

(By the way .... I've not experienced any problems with errors after the XDL
software came down. But I'm also using the irqhak.)

Steve

#: 12744 S9/Utilities
    28-Oct-91  09:04:05
Sb: #Undeleting Files
Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175
To: ALL

Is there a reliable Undelete utility for OS-9 available anywhere?  Fortunately
I've so far never needed one but my day will come.

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#: 12761 S9/Utilities
    29-Oct-91  07:35:57
Sb: #12744-Undeleting Files
Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175

Erich,
 I don't know of an "undelete" utility per se, but have used "fsedit" to get me
out of a jam or two. It requires a pretty good understanding of the os9 file
system and can really mess up a disk if not used carefully. It most definitely
*can* be used to "undelete" a file, assuming the blocks freed up by the
original delete (unlink()) have not been re-used.
 You will have to run "dcheck" and let it fix the thing after you "undelete" a
file because you will now be using blocks marked as free.
 I would download it (I *think* it was in the utilities database) and
experiment on a floppy disk that you format and "dsave" a few files and
directories to so you can trash it and just re-format and start over.
 Of course, you would want a complete backup before "fixing" anything with
"fsedit".
 Good luck (you'll need it)!

 Mark

#: 12755 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    28-Oct-91  22:57:58
Sb: Mystery Lockup
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Kevin Darling

     Here's a real wierd problem.
       I have a Coco3 with 1Meg memory, kernal patch installed to
    recognize this memory;
       Disto SCII no halt floppy controller with 3 in 1 board
    installed. The serial port here is /t3 and is connected to
    a remote terminal at 9600 baud. CC3Disk.slp is the driver
    used with the controller. SACIA is the driver for the serial
    ports;
       Another serial port /t2 which is one of those DCM kit
    things. This is connected to a printer;
       Another serial port /t1 which is a Disto Deluxe RS-232 pak.
    This is connected to a modem;
       A Burke & Burke CocoXT hard disk adapter connected to a
    58 Meg MFM hard drive.

       Here is the problem: Everything worked fine until I hooked
    up a remote terminal to /t3. If I boot up the system all is
    well. If I go 'shell i=/t3&' all is still well and I get an
    OS9 prompt on the remote terminal. If I run any commands from
    the remote, like mdir which works fine, the next time I go to
    make a disk access from the host, the system locks up. A disk
    access from the remote also locks up the system. There are no
    "sparklies" when it locks up but the keyboard will not respond
    and I can't change windows with the 'clear' key. As long as I
    don't send any commands from the remote, the disk accesses work
    normally. I am using Shell+v2.1 if that matters.
       Any help would be greatly appreciated.
                                                Paul R.



#: 12756 S3/Languages
    28-Oct-91  23:03:38
Sb: Old Computer Books
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Brother Jeremy

    Caught the thread on 6809 assembler books and someone asked "where do all
the old computer books go". I don't usually plug stores but this one is pretty
interesting:

           Business & Computer Bookstore
      BBS: 215-657-6130   2400/1200/300
    Voice: 215-657-8300  or 800-233-0233

            213 N. Easton Rd.
            Willow Grove, Pa. 19090

    They show up at the local hamfests out here and have a fairly large
selection.
                             Paul R.

#: 12762 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    29-Oct-91  12:40:15
Sb: Kwindows for the TC70
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: Kevin Darling



Kevin.... Frank Hogg has indicated that KWindows can be purchased for the TC70.

He said you could advise of the cost of KWindows for the TC70.

Please advise me either here, or email, about the cost of these windows.
(Please read my private mail to you regarding this....)

Thanks.

jim Sutemeier



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