From: BEATLE              
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: next conv.     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 06:46:29
Message Number   600

   You can go to a Star Trek convention and find ROBOTECh stuff. Comic 
conventions don't happen that often anymore, but there are Trek cons 
every year. Sometimes twice a year. If I see anything you might like, 
I'll let ya know...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: BLB            
Date & Time: 11/30/89 06:50:28
Message Number   601

  Some classics won't come back. You know, some book companies have said
that they couldn't sell books like"The Wizard of Oz" today... They don't
even want to try.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Movies....     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 06:56:37
Message Number   602

  All I remember was that I heard Siskel & Ebert complaining that movies
like "Bambi" and "Peter Pan" had the top and bottom cropped off to make 
the screen wider, so I assumed that they were TV screen-shaped in the
first place.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: your plan      
Date & Time: 11/30/89 07:00:13
Message Number   603

  Good plan! I'd love to see what the video store thought when the next 
person to rent "Batman" says "Hey, they had a lot of clowns, but no 
Batman! What gives?"
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Randomness     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 15:17:51
Message Number   604

I've seen this set around that has all the moves a piece can make 
printed on the base of the piece.  Talk about real convenient.  After I 
learn..I dunno..what will I do then....
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 15:19:00
Message Number   605

Good idea.  We could have it at my place, but we can only fit about
8 people in my room.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 15:20:19
Message Number   606

Maybe some day over winter break??  I'm not doing anything, except 
batteling to purchase gifts, which is fun when your heavily armed.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Go where?      
Date & Time: 11/30/89 15:22:33
Message Number   607

I don't get to play too much.  I'd like to play more, but can rarely 
find anyone else ( until now ).  Wish they had a computer version for 
the ole Apple here.
===========

From: CYBERPUNK           
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 16:54:45
Message Number   608

stupid.
===========

From: CYBERPUNK           
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Wyvern's Den   
Date & Time: 11/30/89 16:55:40
Message Number   609

that's pretty7 rude.
===========

From: CYBERPUNK           
To: SPELLWIND           
Subject: Con            
Date & Time: 11/30/89 16:58:30
Message Number   610

what's your BBS going to be???
===========

From: CYBERPUNK           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: next conv.     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 16:59:57
Message Number   611

thanks dude! but i thought that there was usally Star Trek stuff
at Star Trek conventions....  hehehe
===========

From: SAURON              
To: LORELEI             
Subject: DOLPHINS       
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:08:52
Message Number   612

1. Some football guy.
2. No.
3. would you settle for a Great Dane?
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Misogeny       
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:17:43
Message Number   613

  Just so you know...I have a daughter whose IQ is 169 (higher than mine
  and any remarks I address to (or about) the Fair gender are strictly
in response to the current campaign that is attempting to portray males
as chauvinist neanderthals. Strangely - the rest of you seem content to
sit back and ignore the feminist crap that's being promulgated about one
half of our species. So be it. If you guys are content to remain silent 
- I'm not.
   ....but you already knew that.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: ANGEL               
Subject: Misogeny       
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:25:04
Message Number   614

 Drat! no one wants to play anymore.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: ANGEL               
Subject: diversions     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:25:57
Message Number   615

  Only if they're with younger women.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: BLB            
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:31:30
Message Number   616

No, I'm not sure at all. I'm not even sure what it was called, or where
it disappeared to, or much of anything else, for that matter. But I
AM sure I hate IBM...
                    ...hey! There's an idea! Perhaps I should create
a sub-board dedicated exclusively to abusing IBM and Mush-DOS! Yeah!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Witches & Stuff
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:34:51
Message Number   617

>...some book companies have said that they couldn't sell books like
>"The Wizard of Oz" today...
 
Of course not. The religious fundamentalists would scream about the
portrayal of witches in the book, child psychologists would cluck their
tongues about the damaging effects of having the main character melt
a witch, parents would complain that Dorothy displays far too much
initiative for her own good and therefore the book is clearly designed
to subvert parental authority, anti-drug crusaders would say that the
book is describing what /must/ be a drug trip, and school boards would
ban it in school libraries because it communicates the wrong lessons
to young minds.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:39:47
Message Number   618

>...we can only fit about 8 people in my room.
 
Naaaah, I can fit almost that many people in my Volkswagen Bug; surely
in a room the size of yours we could stuff...oh, 15 or 20 people. If
you take out the bed we could cram even more!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: Misogeny       
Date & Time: 11/30/89 17:41:37
Message Number   619

Hmm. It seems like battling feminist propaganda about males being
Neanderthal thugs by behaving like a Neanderthal thug is using some...
peculiar tactics. I'm sure Andrea Dworkin would approve...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Wyvern's Den   
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:09:09
Message Number   620

I have been informed that the Den will be up and back on-line in about
two days...so don't despair. The number is 925-1386; 300-1200 baud;
science fiction/fantasy oriented (in case you didn't already know).
Evidently Watts went down to GTE today with a flamethrower and an UZI,
and now they've seen the error of their ways.
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:24:15
Message Number   621

Psyche-
>You'll be able to defeat Chip P. Unicorn with your eyes closed and
>your belly full of alcohol...
   
   Listen, Mr. "Who needs a board? Let's play mental chess!" on the
way from Jacksonville... my playing is NOT that bad. Reckless, insane,
and without proper motivation, yes. But not bad.
                 Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:27:43
Message Number   622

Personally, I prefer the hippopotamous. Or the Cabbage offense.
   
<Personal note to Rufus: see what you've gotten yourself into?!?>
                  Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Chess          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:30:30
Message Number   623

>Why are the little horsies always raved about as though they were the
>next best thing to two gods on a plate?
    
   We equines stick up for each other.
               Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SPELLWIND           
Subject: Con            
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:32:03
Message Number   624

> Having two speakers next to my ears and chucking out Appetite For
> Destruction at full volume has left me deaf.
   
Hmmm... betcha can't keep your fingers on the speakers for ten
minutes... :) 
   
   I'm game, Spellwind: what will your BBS's name be?
                 Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Yuppies        
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:37:57
Message Number   625

You're right. At fourteen, you're too young to be a yuppie.
    
You're a guppie. :)
                   Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 18:40:57
Message Number   626

Where will we have the Dealers' Room? And the filking room? I guess
we'll have to partition off your room into four corners in which only
two can fit at a time...
        Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: Vulvas         
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:02:50
Message Number   627

  Do you plan on getting married someday? And if you already are, I feel
sorry for your wife.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Movies....     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:04:10
Message Number   628

  The discs that are letterboxed that you mentioned are available here 
except for "Close Encounters". Another letterboxed TAPE I can think of 
is the EXCELLENT film "Innerspace".
  On the laserdisc front, the letterboxed version of "Ghostbusters" is 
VERRRRRRRRRRY good, and "E.T." is also letterboxed on disc. "Roger
Rabbit" will be on a letterboxed disc within the next few months. Also, 
I would like to see the disc of "Poltergeist" as it is also letterboxed.
Also, I would like a laserdisc player! hehehe... 
  Oh, just remembered, the new tape release of "Ghostbusters II" is half
letterboxed up to the credits, where it is fully letterboxed.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Letterboxing   
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:10:19
Message Number   629

   I love this. Something I KNOW about...
  "Aliens" was not released on TAPE letterboxed. Neither was "Alien". 
BUT, soon, both films will be on LASERDISC in letterbox format. And for 
those of you who really liked the movie "Aliens", the TV (CBS) version 
had(has)  8 minutes of new footage. Anyone tape it when it was on???
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: LORELEI             
Subject: DOLPHINS       
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:15:47
Message Number   630

  You know, the name Don Shula is very familiar...isn't he one of those
football TV guys??? 
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:18:31
Message Number   631

  Hey, I'll trade ya August for December. My birthday is in December. Of
course, if there is a Beatle con, people would do what >I< want to do. I
know you won't be showing up!
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: next conv.     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:23:30
Message Number   632

   There is, but there were lots of other Sci-Fi dealers sellingother
assorted stuff. Tons of comic books, $50 Star Wars figures, pirated 
anime tapes, ROBOTECH stuff, and models, etc...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Witches & Stuff
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:26:29
Message Number   633

 actually, the reason was that nobody would buy it...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Letterboxing   
Date & Time: 11/30/89 19:28:32
Message Number   634

   And to clear this up, for whoever mentioned that "Alien" and "Aliens"
were ALREADY available (I saw that after I wrote the message)...
  the movies (and others you said that were from Japan) will be 
available HERE from US companies.
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: SAURON              
Subject: Misogeny       
Date & Time: 11/30/89 20:40:27
Message Number   636

 But  alot of males fit that description (or act like it).
       I'm not one of them, girls.
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Con            
Date & Time: 11/30/89 20:44:57
Message Number   637

Haha! I'm not telling! They're holding it for me at Computers Etc.,
 probably'll be a christmas gift. Hey, you dont hafta sacrifice presents
just because you don't believe in the religion!
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 21:10:35
Message Number   638

Hey, Idon't mind....my place would be a blast to have a con, ask 
anyone who's ever been here!  The question is...My parents wouldn't
go for it, sorry....  (well, they MIGHT)
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 21:12:35
Message Number   639

> stupid.
 
Is that all you have to say?  STUPID?!?!?!?
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: BEATLE              
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 21:14:09
Message Number   640

sure I'D show up!  Just as long as it had noithing to do with Ihate 
about what you like!  hehehehe   :>
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: RUFUS CON '89  
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:09:23
Message Number   641

   Hello, there.  Pleased to almost meet you!  Maybe at the second
annual RufusCon.
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:11:32
Message Number   642

   Can I add Scrabble to the game list, or is that too mundane for this
fast-track crowd?
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: H.A.M.         
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:12:40
Message Number   643

I've had one play produced locally, and it was supposed to be produced
again this fall by a New Mexico troop, but that fell through for reasons
I can't determine (thank goodness I hadn't spend the anticipated
royalty check!)  I don't sing particularly well, but I am very LOUD!!!!
Which is a castable asset in a large theater.  I dance only under
duress.  I'm still a fox-juggler in training, oh, and acting?
God, I'm wonderful!
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: H.A.M.         
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:17:22
Message Number   644

  No immediate plans to perform in a show.  But I will be directing
the February show at the Players of Sarasota.  It's called "The Musical
Comedy Murders of 1940" -- it's a hoot-and-a-half.  Delightfully
bizarre characters in a snow-bound mansion replete with revolving
bookcases, hidden passages, and unknown knifer, and bodies dropping
like flies.  I'm looking forward to it.
  By the way, open auditions are December 18 at 7:00 pm if any of you
have thespianic ambitions.
  Oh, and a kwepie doll is a cheap plastic doll once given away as a
prize in carnival games.  It's contemporary equivalent is a stuffed
Gumby, or the like.
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: SAURON              
Subject: diversions     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:31:30
Message Number   645

>  Only if they're with younger women.
 
WRONG!  Take my word for it.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Movies....     
Date & Time: 11/30/89 22:57:39
Message Number   646

I saw this most amazing thing once...a video disc player that didn't
use a laser. The disc had a groove in it like a record, and the video-
disc player actually had a needle! It was a really neat idea. It didn't
work too well, though; the groove on the disc was /very/ narrow, and
it tended to skip (a somewhat interesting thing to watch). The discs
themselves were pretty. Normally, they're sealed in a plastic carrier
and you can't see them (or touch them), but I broke one open once.
It's really shiny...and diffracts light in some amazing ways.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Aliens         
Date & Time: 11/30/89 23:00:38
Message Number   647

The CBS version has extra footage? Where can I find a copy???!!! Aliens
is one of my #1 all-time favorite movies!!!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: aLTER rEALITY  
Date & Time: 11/30/89 23:04:29
Message Number   648

Well, gang, the spirits must be out in force today...I averaged about
10 new messages an hour for most of the day. Anyway, this message base
is starting to eat into storage space in a hefty way, so I'm gonna start
clearing out some of the older ones (hey, 700 messages isn't bad for
one 360K floppy!) I may start automatically deleting messages after a
set number of days if this keeps up...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: AAARRRGGGHHH!!!
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:32:38
Message Number   649

Well, aLTER rEALITY was up and running on the 3.5" floppy...for about
half a day. Well, the traitorous, backstabbing thing failed, taking
the message base with it...AAAIIIGGGHHH! Anyway, I've restored a backup
of the message base, but 20 messages were lost in the process. ('Tis
a good thing I did a complete backup last night, methinks...) Anyway,
the microfloppy may be down for the count; the damn thing isn't worth
the effort it would take to kick it into next Tuesday. More on this
as it develops.
                      --A frustrated Turtle
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:43:11
Message Number   650

An all time favorite offense when losing at checkers is the "Throw the
board across the room and storm out of the room pouting."  I suppose it
would work with Chess to.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:44:26
Message Number   651

Well, the dealers room is under my computer desk, and the filking room
could be under the other desk.  Say, we could have it at my aunts farm
that has 11 acres.  We could bring some Port-O-Tiolets and have a grand
time for a few weeks.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:47:25
Message Number   652

Here's what we do, we tie your parents up for the night.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:48:22
Message Number   653

Fair enough.  I have this weird game where the board stands up between
the two player.  I'll have to find it and see what you have to do.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: H.A.M.         
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:49:37
Message Number   654

Well, you'll have to tell us all when you will be acting next.  We can
all come down and see ya.  Of course, we are a tough group to please.
Hmm..last time I saw a play was "Who's Life is it Anyways" or something
like that.  It was about this quaddraplegic (sp?) who wanted to die, so
they had a court case.  It was extra credit for Law Studies, and well, I
wasn't all that impressed with it.  Oh well, can't win 'em all.  And my 
mind is drifting..
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Aliens         
Date & Time: 12/01/89 15:53:32
Message Number   655

Yea, I saw it.  If I'm not mistaken, some of the extra footage included
these "smart" guns they set up in a corridor.  When the aliens came near
the guns would proceed to blast away.  
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: ANGEL               
Subject: diversions     
Date & Time: 12/01/89 17:08:40
Message Number   657

     To back you up on that,  It is true.  The woman does not have to be
younger then the man.  
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: ALL                 
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/01/89 17:15:29
Message Number   658

     Hay guys, lets have a Game Con.  It could be fun.  Lets see we 
could have Scrabble, Chess, Go, Scatergories, Monopoly, Connect-4,
Battle Ship, Pictionary, Sorry, Life, Clue, Trivial Pursuit, Boggle,
Wheel Of Fortune, Memory, and Chutes and Ladders.  Just think it could 
be fun.  Any way it was just an idea.  
                             * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Well...        
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:30:24
Message Number   659

aLTER rEALITY is back up on the 3.5" drive. (Some turtles never learn.)
The new drive is somewhat slower than the 5.25" (Hey, it's from an IBM.
What do you want?) and is a good deal flakier (ditto, and the fact that
Turtle had to kludge an interface for it doesn't help...) Anyway, I
/hope/ this thing doesn't flake out on me again...if it does, oh
well, kiss some more messages goodbye. Anyway, the message base is
somewhat less cramped for room now, so it is probably worth it.
                   --An optimistic Turtle
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:37:38
Message Number   660

  Yes, your place would be neat. And if you got that S-VHS VCR you could
have movies (maybe Howard the Duck hehehehe) is Dolby Surround and show 
it off. Just one thing, your house has 1) many breakable objects 2) a
fairly small amount of space to have a buch of people around. Then again
you don't have to worry, your parents WON'T go for it.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:40:03
Message Number   661

  Well, I would show movies like "Back to Future"...just kidding. well, 
I might do that. I wouldn't show horror movies. And I woldn't make you
listen to The Beatles...I know you'd really not want to come. What about
a Star Trek Beatle Con???
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Movies....     
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:43:43
Message Number   662

   Lessee, that was either the first RCA "Selectavision" player or the 
other first laserdisc player. I remember that was a top-loading player..
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Aliens         
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:44:52
Message Number   663

   Hey, I also want to see that extra footage! 
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/01/89 18:47:25
Message Number   664

 And one of the most amusing games---VCR Commercial Crazies! Yes, it's a
tape of the wackiest commercials from the people who brought you the 
Federal Express guy. Some of the commercials are even funny!
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: ALL                 
Subject: ? Letterboxing?
Date & Time: 12/01/89 19:30:46
Message Number   665

OK:   WHAT IS LETTERBOXING!!!!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Hey!           
Date & Time: 12/02/89 15:36:03
Message Number   666

After a brief hiatus in which this board was experiencing weird
technical difficulties (due to a dumb turtle who never bothers to read
documentation...), we are back. A few people attempted to log on this
morning and got a carrier but nothing else; apologies if you were
one of them. We're still having a few quirky problems here at aLTER
rEALITY, but if you'll just bear with us, life will become sunshine
and roses Real Soon Now.
                  --A gosh-what's-a-manual-for Turtle
===========

From: ROCKY               
To: ALL...              
Subject: movies...      
Date & Time: 12/02/89 21:58:56
Message Number   667

Well, I've heard all the classics, except for these few, which by the 
way are also among my favorites, These animation classics seem to be 
making huge comebacks (which they always seem to do) but I was wondering
what happened to "100 and 1 Dalmations", and "Jungle Boy", and ALSO, a
VERY classic flick that was realeased a relatively short time ago in
animation land, though done by totally different animators (The
animation in this flick was rated top of the line at it's time of 
release) and that was "Heavy Metal". Since the release of Heavy Metal,
I have yet to see such quality animation in a full length feature
cartoon (if you can call it that) and it's storyline as yet unmatched.
There were segments in the movie "The Wall" which matched the quality
of the animation techniques used in Heavy Metal, but was only in short
visual bursts of fantastic animation. 
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: ? Letterboxing?
Date & Time: 12/02/89 23:10:58
Message Number   668

   Ever notice that the movie theatre has a movie screen that is ALMOST 
as wide as two TV screens side by side? Well, when THAT size is shown on
a TV with black bars at the top and bottom to fill empty space, THAT'S
letterboxing.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: ROCKY               
Subject: movies...      
Date & Time: 12/02/89 23:14:52
Message Number   669

 Disney has a LONG line of classic animated films they have yet to put
on video. They often release them to theatres. For instance, "Peter Pan"
was released at least twice in the last 8 years. Anyway, that film and
others such as "Jungle Book" and "101 Dalmations" and the absolute #1 
Disney classic, "Snow White" will have to wait a while for a video 
release. Now that Disney's big movies are out ("Bambi", "Cinderella", 
etc.), I would guess that "Peter Pan" or "Fantasia" might be in line for
release soon.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/02/89 23:54:08
Message Number   670

   I think it sounds good (possibly in January?)   What does everyone 
else think of a GameCon?
   (Positive feedback only, please.  If you don't like it, you don't 
have to come.  So there.)
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 00:59:28
Message Number   671

     It think it is a great idea.  I am glad you thought of it.  And 
holding it is January is an even better idea.  You see after the 15th
I don't get any days off till Christmas any way.  And from today on I  
only get two more days of till the 15th.  So January is and excellant
idea.  Two great minds.......  Ok so it's set.  Will set the actual 
date after New Years.  And Thank you for your support.
                             * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: ROCKY               
Subject: movies...      
Date & Time: 12/03/89 02:59:46
Message Number   672

Hm.  "Heavy Metal" had some really good animation and some so-so
animation, depending on who was doing it (each segment was done by a
different team).  The storylines of each individual segment were good,
although the connecting device of the Evil Green Ball from Hell was a
damn silly idea.  I think the best animation done in the 80's is the
movie "Rock and Rule," which also had a pretty good storyline and a
fairly impressive soundtrack to boot.  It is, coincidentally enough,
the only movie with anthropomorphic characters who could be considered
furries instead of funny animals.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: movies...      
Date & Time: 12/03/89 05:01:01
Message Number   673

Rock and Rule is also, coincidentally enough, animated by the same
people who did the animation in Pink Floyd The Wall. Rock and Rule
contains a fair number of really sophisticated animation techniques
and special effects that I have never seen anywhere else...pity it
was such a box-office flop.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 05:02:50
Message Number   674

Positive feedback only? In that case, I guess it's likely to be
unanimous; everyone who responds will say a game convention is
a good idea. Seems like a kind of silly way to get everyone to
agree, though. Myself, I think it sounds like an interesting idea,
but I'm not all /that/ fond of games in general so I'm not sure I'd
want to make a grand two-day affair or something out of the whole
deal.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: More flames    
Date & Time: 12/03/89 05:04:46
Message Number   675

Gosh, this bulletin board has gotten really slow, hasn't it? I knew this
-<deleted>- PS/2 drive was slower than the 5.25" drives I normally use,
but I didn't think it would be /that/ much slower. Oh well, the message
base is more than twice as large now; I guess the speed decrease will
have to be lived with. Kind of weird, though; the /only/ reason I like
PBBS at all is the fact that it's a fast system, so for the sake of
speed I am willing to overlook its weird problems and general klunkiness
and lack of flexibility; now it appears that that  one advantage has
been tossed out the window. *Sigh* I may yet end up setting up an
ERACS BBS From Hell (ERACS: The program designed to convince you you're
running on a mainframe), but it'd be a shame to toss out the messages
I have so far. *sigh* Such is life, mine at least.
                   --A long-suffering Turtle
PS: Somebody ask Donthen about his car window. It's totally off-topic,
but it'd be amusing anyway. I bring this up because my fingers hurt and
it makes typing difficult. Ask Donthen; he'll make sense of it all.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 12:07:20
Message Number   676

Let's not forget Spoons, the only full contact card game!
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: movies...      
Date & Time: 12/03/89 12:12:14
Message Number   677

So when is the AnimationCon??  On another note, our new TV has a feature
that gives everything a slightly bluish tinge, and it makes animation 
look better ( O.K., some animation ).
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: windows        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 12:15:37
Message Number   678

What's up with your car window?
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: ERACS          
Date & Time: 12/03/89 14:20:36
Message Number   679

ERACS has only one major flaw: it bites rocks.  It's hard to use, you
have no way to run it as an open-access system, you can't have spaces in
your username, the message base utility makes the Greene Machine look
downright userfriendly, the downloading utility is just as bad, and it's
SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW.  When I was running it
from my hard drive it was about half as fast doing everything as your
floppy-based PBBS system is, and that's running on your 3.5" drive --
and I was running at 6 MHz.  It takes almost a minute just to log on to
the damn thing.  I'll admit, the TTY filter impresses the hell out of
me, and MONITORx/ECS's functions that don't require patching the damn
DOS are really cool (even though they don't do anything that the Fox
kernel couldn't do if it was set up correctly, not counting being able
to set privilege bits on every DOS command) ... but the advantages
really don't seem like they're worth the hassle.  I suspect if you
actually set up an ERACS system, you'd really, really regret it after
a while.  I realize all the privilege bits and the neato command parser
appeal to the mainframe hacker in you, but let's face it -- being able
to restrict access to the ATTRIB command when you let people play around
at your OS level may be something no other BBS lets you do, but it's
something no other BBS misses, either.  Considering that nobody in their
right mind would run a public-access ERACS system without using the
menu control files, that "advantage" is somewhat illusory.  A case could
be made for wanting to give certain users the ability to access half the
DOS commands, but it'd be real hard to claim it's necessary for a BBS.
(Besides, I suspect the same thing will be possible from the Fox script
processor, and with a better command parser to boot.)
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: RUFUS               
Subject: windows        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 14:34:00
Message Number   680

It's missing a gasket.  Someone tried to break into it in Tampa.  In
fact, he did it successfully, which is a good thing, considering his
friend's keys were locked in the car and both of them would have been
stuck at a Spur station at the intersection of Fowler and I-75 for even
longer than they were, which was, in fact, quite long enough.  Cold
weiather sucks and they didn't even have very good coffee.
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: BEATLE              
Subject: BeatleCon      
Date & Time: 12/03/89 15:59:29
Message Number   682

>people would do what >I< want to do.
   
    Only possible in a police state. Or if you're Madison Avenue.
                  Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:01:41
Message Number   683

Gee... a might! location for a convention. Wow! This is the closest
we've gotten for a while... we'd better start printing up the posters,
T-shirts, invite the GoH and Fan GoH, hire some staff and gofers
before your parents change their minds, huh?
               Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: ANGEL               
Subject: H.A.M.         
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:05:02
Message Number   684

You might find an interested thesbian here. When would the practices
be, and can I see a copy of the script? (When will the performance be?)
... well, if you have no use for a unicorn on the stage, my stableboy
might be interested, too.
              Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: aLTER rEALITY  
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:07:23
Message Number   685

At the rate we're going, might have to be on a one-WEEK deleting time...
aLTER rEALITY is doing fantasically well...
             Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:08:38
Message Number   686

Works good in Go, too. Then again, Psyche has a magnetic Go set, so
throwing it across the room might not disturb the position of the
board...
              Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:10:52
Message Number   687

Crystal-
   The idea's been batted about a bit. Anyone want to get together
prizes for the winners? (Implies an entrance fee, of course. I might
do nametags in my free time; not supply winners' prizes.)
   What games would be brought? And which ones would be competed in?
               Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Hey!           
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:13:56
Message Number   688

I was one of them... anyway, how can we believe that message you
wrote? (Take a look at the message number...)
              Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: More flames    
Date & Time: 12/03/89 16:17:40
Message Number   689

An ERACS board could be fun... don't worry; if this insanity dies,
there will be more to replace it. Long live Discordia!
             Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: windows        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 20:45:34
Message Number   690

Ohh, nothing like "I rolled the window up when Turtle's fingers were in
the way."  I do that all the time, but the Hell Nova does have power
windows.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/03/89 20:49:04
Message Number   691

O.K.  I'll rent one of those large cranes that has a giant electromagnet
on it.  Then hold the board down, and flip the switch.  Little go pieces
stuck in the roof.  Anyways, could you give me a little hint as to what
you do in Go?  All I saw was a board with about a thousand squares and
about 2000 black and white pieces.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 20:51:15
Message Number   692

Well, we need games for all types.  Maybe Pictionary for the simple 
minded ( like me ) and Spoons for the violent minded ( like me ) and
maybe Paranioia for the mind who likes to vacation ( like me ).
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: AAA            
Date & Time: 12/03/89 20:59:25
Message Number   693

     When I was able to drive, my parents, gave me a quift of AAA
automobile club.  It was not until I started going out with Turtle that 
I use it so often.  When I first got the card I used it only during the
winter months in PA.  Since I have moved to Florida and began dating 
Turtle I use it at least four times a year.  Any one who goes out with
a Turtle in the car ( no matter yours or his ) Take a AAA card with you
Remember don't leave home with out it.
                              * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GameCon Prizes 
Date & Time: 12/03/89 21:06:32
Message Number   694

     YES AND THE WINNER OF ALL THE GAMES WILL WIN A *NEW* NEVER BEFORE
DRIVEN 1987 * Y U G O *.  With the special options package:
                                                                        
1.) Air Conditioning (with the windows rolled down)
2.) Seat bealts (connected to the car in two places),(not necessarly 
                             in the same place as other cars)
3.) MATCHING Pickle Bucket Seats 
4.) Front, rear, and side windows
5.) Four tires (pre-instuled)
6.) A pocket radio WITH antenna
7.) And last but not least turn signals
                                                                        
     Yes Ladies and Gentleman, Boys and Girls of all ages this car can 
be yours, If YOU win the GAMECON....
                                                                        
                              * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:03:11
Message Number   695

   Unanimity is the point.  Those who don't think it is a grand, spiffy
idea can just stay home.  I really don't care to hear if they think the
idea sucks...  That doesn't tend to be good for one's ego.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:07:01
Message Number   696

   Ken's parents might be agreeable to the idea of having a GoCon at the
house, but I don't think that they would Go fer hiring some GoFers.  
That might be gilding the lily.
   Just shoot me for that one.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:10:30
Message Number   697

   Throwing it across the room might or might not disturb the position 
of the board, but it would certainly disturb the person who it hit.  I
thought GO was a relaxing game.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:13:47
Message Number   698

   381 squares and a trillion black and white pieces.  I'll let Chip 
explain the object of the game (gee, that's a tough one).
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:15:40
Message Number   699

   We could just have everybody bring their own games.  If they were 
smart, they'd bring games that they knew would appeal to the masses;
otherwise, they might just have to sit in the corner and play with 
themselves.  Like I said before, games included in GameCon should 
appeal to more than just the people who brought them.
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:50:18
Message Number   700

Wow!  An 11 acre ant farm!  Those little critters must be happy!
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Openings       
Date & Time: 12/03/89 22:52:18
Message Number   701

Actually ARCHANGEL opened in a play Friday night.  He's in 'The Lion In
Winter' at Anna Marie Island Players, playing the King of France.  Gee
from ambassador to King, not a bad job promotion.  I saw the show last
night and he was, as usual, superb.  But he looked ridiculous.  He's
6'6" and they put him into a long purple robe and then put a crown on
top -- made him look like Welch Gumby.
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Casting couch  
Date & Time: 12/03/89 23:02:43
Message Number   702

Well, the script doesn't call for a unicorn, but if your stableboy is
interested, we need five men, five women -- ages from early twenties to
early fifties.  Rehearse evenings from 7:30 to 10:30 five nights a
week starting January 9 (roughly).  Show opens mid-February (this is
embarrasing, I don't remember what day we open ... oh, well, I'll be
there regardless).
===========

From: SAURON              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Vulvas         
Date & Time: 12/04/89 03:49:17
Message Number   703

  Married again?  No, once (for 19 years) was quite enough.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: ....                
Subject: Bah!           
Date & Time: 12/04/89 03:51:45
Message Number   704

  You've obviously all been brainwashed by the bra-burners.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Oz             
Date & Time: 12/04/89 03:54:51
Message Number   705

  Just for the record, Ballantine Books released the complete Oz series 
in paperback about 8 years ago. I had a few and the cover art was really
nice;much more so than the terrible scratchings the original Grosset &
Dunlop hardcovers had in the 30's.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/04/89 04:13:45
Message Number   706

While we're on the subject of Games We Need To Have At GameCon, let
us not forget the more...reptilian of pasttimes--like, say, Mexican,
and Quarters, and many other sophomoric pasttimes designed to cause
extreme inebriation in their contestants.
                    --A game-loving Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/04/89 04:16:56
Message Number   707

Click...Click...(blasted thing)...Click...BLAM!! Aha, there we go.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: Bah!           
Date & Time: 12/04/89 04:19:13
Message Number   708

Men stink! They're all chauvanist pigs! Women are supreme! Women
everywhere should unite and cast off the chains of male domination!
Men must be put in their places! All of them! Off with their heads!
Force them to bow to the female form! Make them lie face-down in dirty
bath water! Yarg! Yarg!
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: GameCon Prizes 
Date & Time: 12/04/89 15:39:58
Message Number   709

I'd rather have another cake.  Actually, for the next Con I'll bake my 
chocalate with chocalate chips covered with chocalate icing brownies.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/04/89 15:42:04
Message Number   710

Not really, the bathroom is about a 3 acre walk.  They don't go very 
often.
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: ROCKY               
Subject: movies...      
Date & Time: 12/04/89 17:37:17
Message Number   711

I thought Wizzard (are there two Z's in that title.. not sure.) had
scences comparable to Heavy Metal's .. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big
Heavy Metal fan, I just liked Wizard a lot too... If you haven't seen it
and you liked Heavy Metal.. get it sometime.
                        - Corwyn
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: BEATLE              
Subject: ? Letterboxing?
Date & Time: 12/04/89 17:40:11
Message Number   712

Thank you.. When they release films "letterboxed" do they usually 
release it in a normal format also?
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: ALL                 
Subject: Batman Apprec. 
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:07:23
Message Number   713

"Half-holy bat guano, FatMan!"
       -- from the Robin Appreciation Society. All donations
cheerfully accepted. Have an excruciatingly pleasant day.
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:09:35
Message Number   714

A hint? Heck! I'll try to teach you the game over the modem.
   Basically, the game is very simple [Hah!] The person with the
black stones moves first. He places one of his stones in the 
intersection of the lines on the board. Then the white player goes,
and places one of his stones in an intersection. The two alternate
placing stones in corners of the board. Got me so far?
   The idea of the game, really, is to capture territory. If any
two pieces of the same color are touching horizontally or vertically
(note: NOT DIAGONALLY!!!!), they are said to be "linked." Still
with me?
   Stones are removed from the board in only one way: they must be
completely surrounded horizontally and vertically (NOT DIAGONALLY),
touching, by the opponent's pieces. Heck -- here are a few diagrams
of captured positions:
        o           ooo              oo
       oxo         ooXXo            oXXo
        o           oXo             oXXo
                     o               oo
  Got that? Here are a few examples of NOT captured pieces:
  xxx
  xo x     There's an "escape" left for the poor o -- but he'll
   xx      probably be taken next move.
    
   xxx
  xooox
  xo ox    Surprised? This is NOT taken. The space on the INSIDE counts
  xooox    as an escape route... though they'll probably be taken
   xxx     next move.
   
   xxx
  xooox
  xo ox    The o's in this position cannot be taken. CANNOT! When X
  xooox    tries to move into one of the empty spots, he's instantly
   xo ox   taken... x cannot hold both empty spots at the same time.
   xooox   This is called "two eyes," and it's extremely powerful.
    
   The only other rule you need know: you cannot move into the same
square twice in a row. This prevents certain bad things from happening.
   
   That's it for the rules. When GameCon comes around (if!), I'll
review them... and play you a game. It's a LOT tougher than it seems...
                Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:22:16
Message Number   715

Yes! We NEED more Paranoia players! George Orwell meets the Marx
Brothers... (that's how we played it, kinda sorta... Lots of fun!)
              Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: GameCon Prizes 
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:24:03
Message Number   716

Crystal,
   Thanks for offering the grand prize! Everyone, let's give a big
hoof to Crystal... 
               Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: ANGEL               
Subject: Casting couch  
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:32:17
Message Number   717

   The only time which I might have problems with is the auditions.
I plan on visiting my parents for Christmas (actually, I have no 
choice!), but I might still be in the Sarasota area on the 18th.
   Regardless if I show up for the auditions, I WILL be at the
performance. At least as a member of the audience.
                 Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SAURON              
Subject: Bah!           
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:36:19
Message Number   718

No. I merely have quite a bit of respect for the brain of my filly.
She is currently a straight-A student in her college (good going!),
as well as holding down a full-time job. And she gives delicious
backrubs.
                 Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: GameCon Prizes 
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:38:56
Message Number   719

drool... drool... drool... Don't mention them in front of me. I'm a
chocolaholic!
                 The chocolate-lover.
===========

From: ANGEL               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Casting couch  
Date & Time: 12/05/89 00:47:04
Message Number   720

  Please do indeed come to opening night.  I want to pack the house
when the critics are there with people who will laugh, hoot, holler,
and stamp hooves in appreciation (whether they appreciated it or not).
This is my first directing assignment in the area and I'd like to be
asked back.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:00:41
Message Number   721

   You're not implying that we should have alcoholic beverages at
GameCon, are you?  Ewww, YUK!
   I have never touched a drink containing alcohol in my life (at least
not that I can remember, so I'm sure I haven't), and am not sure how
thrilled I would be about having lots of people at close quarters 
belching, gagging, throwing up, and having flatulence contests.
   If you insist, however, I'm game.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:06:40
Message Number   722

   If I were a criminal, you could say "aha, there we Go, Con."
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Poker          
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:45:50
Message Number   723

 Well, we could play betting poker. I'd donate half my winnings to the
'prize fund'. And I am a Very Good poker player. I'll only play if it's
betting.
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: Turtlecar      
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:51:16
Message Number   724

 And a will, and insurance, and a seatbelt......
.s
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:53:37
Message Number   725

Well, you could always have it at my house. I have an interesting house,
and you don't have to whisper!
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:57:44
Message Number   726

Definitely.
===========

From: SPELLWIND           
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Batman Apprec. 
Date & Time: 12/05/89 01:59:55
Message Number   727

 They might have him in the next Batman movie. I hope not.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: Oz             
Date & Time: 12/05/89 07:03:18
Message Number   729

   Hmmmmmmmmm...interesting. They wouldn't have done that 10 years ago. 
BUT, Ballantine was the company that took the chance by publishing "Who
Censored Roger Rabbit"...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: movies...      
Date & Time: 12/05/89 07:06:10
Message Number   730

  The movie was "Wizards" and it was made by the same people who did a 
segment of Heavy Metal...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: ? Letterboxing?
Date & Time: 12/05/89 07:07:07
Message Number   731

  Well, in the case of a letterboxed tape, the movie is only on tape in 
the letterboxed form. To preserve cable ratings (assuming people don't
want letterboxing on cable), the
movie is converted to screen size for pay cable. If a film is on disc
letterboxed, chances are that there is a tape unletterboxed, unless the 
tape was alredy released in letterbox. Only about 10 major films (maybe 
less) have been released letterboxed on tape. Some other "classic" or 
foreign films have also been letterboxed.
  It is interesting to compare something like "Ghostbusters" letterboxed
to the normal TV version...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: ZemeckiCon...  
Date & Time: 12/05/89 07:15:33
Message Number   732

  ARE YOU INTERESTED??? 
  The ZemeckiCon (IF HELD) would be planned for summer 1990. It will be
a two-day event including video screenings of the following Zemeckis 
films:
 "I Wanna Hold Your Hand"
 "Used Cars"
 "Romancing the Stone"
 "Back to the Future"
 "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"
 "Back to the Future Part II"
 PLUS trivia contest, behind the scenes of some of the movies specials, 
AND the cap of the Con, a trip to the movie theatre to see "Back to the 
Future Part III". Of course, to rent the tapes and buy the movie tickets
there will have to be a fee. This fee will also contribute to the prize
in the trivia contest. 
  Hey, it's a quirky idea, but SOMENONE has to be interested. 
  Tyler, don't reply to this message...
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Used Cars      
Date & Time: 12/05/89 10:55:50
Message Number   733

     Finally someone else that has seen "Used Cars".  That has got to be
one of the funniest movies of all time.  Everyone has got to rent it.
                              * CRYSTAL *
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: ALL                 
Subject: The Shadow     
Date & Time: 12/05/89 12:18:38
Message Number   734

Call The Shadow BBS, 359-1717.. it's up from 11:00pm till 4:00pm.
Online games: Murder Motel, Leech, and of course Camel.
 
If you haven't played Camel, you have to try it, it's a very simple game
but it's also very difficult to win. We STILL need more message writers,
I'm not going to put in other bases if there are only a few messages in 
the existing ones.. 
    Call tonight. (P.S. If you tried calling and got hung up on, sorry
I was having problems w/ the init string a lot, the problem's solved now
	                              - Corwyn
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From: BEATLE              
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: Used Cars      
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:20:58
Message Number   735

  Yep, I saw "Used Cars". I originally saw it because it was produced by
Steven Spielberg. It is an oddity because it is the only R-rated film 
Steven Spielberg or Robert Zemeckis has ever made.
  I take it you would be interested in ZemeckiCon...
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From: CYBERPUNK           
To: ALL INTERESTED      
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:42:19
Message Number   736

hey all, ayone interested in a ChristmasCon, or it could be CyberCon
, it can be held at my house, can have as much noise as you want, and a
LOT more room than Turtles house, if ya'll like it, tell me!!  we might 
have it!!
   Cy
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From: SPELLWIND           
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: Used Cars      
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:49:12
Message Number   737

 That was with the dead guy. That guy drove that car and gave him a
heartattack.      funny.
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From: SPELLWIND           
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: The Shadow     
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:52:33
Message Number   738

 Also call and help out the developing storyboard...
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From: SPELLWIND           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Used Cars      
Date & Time: 12/05/89 16:54:09
Message Number   739

yep!
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From: TURTLE              
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/05/89 17:08:23
Message Number   740

>I have never touched a drink containing alcohol in my life...
 
How sad. Anything I can do to help?
 
>...not sure how thrilled I would be about having lots of people at
>close quarters belching, gagging, throwing up, and having flatulence
>contests.
 
Doesn't sound like fun to me, either. I'm not completely sure of the
relevance of that statement, though.
Thpth!
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From: TURTLE              
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: GoCon          
Date & Time: 12/05/89 17:16:46
Message Number   741

Puns like that can get you arrested in 17 states, Mr. Psyche...
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From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Yo-Yo's...     
Date & Time: 12/06/89 02:50:55
Message Number   743

...don't go up and down as often as this system. *sigh* I just found and
fixed another teensy weensy problem...if you called and got stuck in
"Looking in your Mailbox!" for about 2 years, then you, too, were a
victim. Oh well. Anyway, it's all better now...
                       --A resigned Turtle
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: ALL                 
Subject: Modem connects 
Date & Time: 12/06/89 14:39:29
Message Number   744

How exactly does the modem connect process take place. I know I usually 
hear two tones, then the (static) "crshhh" of carrier. What exactly are
the first two (or one) tones.. <-- On this system I hear one tone before
carrier.. It's one of the few 1200 baud systems I call so I'm not sure 
if that's it.  If (when calling another system) I hear only one tone and
nothing else, which modem isn't doing it's job.. (in other words, "Whos 
fault is it?")  Any other info on exactly how modems connect would be
welcome.
                     - Corwyn (Eagerly awaiting enlightenment)
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Alcohol        
Date & Time: 12/06/89 14:46:03
Message Number   745

I haven't drank anything (significant) since the last PCP(about a month)
and it's done terrible things to my disposition. Really, I'm a much
nicer person when I'm slightly (or very) drunk.. have a lot more fun too
 
Wednesday.. (next) I plan on getting completely and totally smashed just
for the theraputic value.. I highly recommend it.
 
                    - Corwyn (Eagerly awaiting inebriation)
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From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: SAURON              
Subject: Abortion       
Date & Time: 12/06/89 14:56:07
Message Number   746

Abortion has been defined as legal during the first two tri-mesters of 
pregnancy (w/ a doctor's consent) Some people declare this an arbitrary
descision. I don't think we will ever know enought about conciosness to
determine whether the infant is self-concious at that time. The catchy
slogan "Right to Life" is mis-leading, as are discussions as to whether 
the fetus is alive. My personal conclusion is: Of course the fetus is
alive, that is not the issue. Your teeth are alive, so is a cancerous
growth in a woman with cancer (I realize this is a distasteful simile,
but I believe it present the idea well>. No-one disputes the right of 
an individual to have one of his/her teeth pulled.. or have a cancerous
growth removed. The fetus is the same as these two except for one 
(or two.. see above reference to it's self-conciousness) factor,
it's potential. That fetus is certainly no more intelligent than the
cow you had for dinner last night (vegetarians are excused from this
argument), or Gasp! the Turtle steak you ate last week (or year).
  The telling question is whether you judge the action on the basis of 
the fetus' potential to become an intelligent, self-concious organism.
The precedence, I beleice supports NOT doing so, you can not sentence a
man to death because of his potential for committing murder.. you can't 
try a castrator for killing all the children the man had the POTENTIAL 
to have.  As I am coming up with these examples off the top of my head,
I am sure there are flaws in them.. and I'm sure there are "Pro-Lifers"
who will joyously point them out to me, but my purpose is to demonstrate
the shift in the actual issue. I have many other reasons for supporting
legalized abortion, some of which are difficult to explain.. I'd prefer 
to see how people respond to this note before explaining some of them. I
will return..
                  - Corwyn (Eagerly awaiting morally outraged responses)
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From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/06/89 15:22:17
Message Number   747

I was in the thingy that is a pick up with tank treads.  Well, some guy
was looking down the launch tube to see if it was clear, so I fired.
I explained to the computer that "He was attempting to sabotage equipmen
by jamming his flashlight into the tube."  Of course we wiped out about
25 clones in 2 hours.  Lotsa fun.
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From: RUFUS               
To: ANGEL               
Subject: Casting couch  
Date & Time: 12/06/89 15:25:22
Message Number   748

No problem, just point the critics out, and we'll be happy to meet them
outside with large baseball bats.  Will Archangel be trying out for 
any parts??
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From: RUFUS               
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/06/89 15:28:43
Message Number   749

Sounds good to me, but stop the Turtle/Crystal house bashing.  They were
kind enough to let us in, and risk getting evicted.  Half the fun is 
stepping on people.
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From: TURTLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Modem connects 
Date & Time: 12/06/89 15:35:53
Message Number   750

Okay, here we go... The first tone you hear is a CCITT signal. That
is the carrier for a 300 baud modem; if you're using 300 baud, you
just send an ORG carrier back and that's that. 1200 baud uses a carrier
on a different frequency. Most modems will respond to the CCITT carrier
by sending a 1200 baud carrier, which (unlike 300 baud) contains sync
signals...that's why it makes that hissing sound. What happens on the
host end at this point depends on how good the host modem is. Some
modems will immediately recognize the 1200 baud carrier and start gen-
erating one of their own, and the connection takes place. Other modems
will search for a 300 baud carrier, not find one, and switch to sending
a 1200 baud carrier with no sync signals. They will THEN suddenly
realize that they're hearing a 1200 baud carrier and wake up, and start
sending the sync signal, and the connection gets made. Is that terribly
helpful?
                   --A wizard Turtle
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