

#: 18055 S1/General Interest
    06-May-93  20:18:49
Sb: #17625-OS9U
Fm: DOUG 72667,1433
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)

Hi Hugo, I too am beginning to wonder (I just put a message on the Soapbox).
I've had to send him a letter each time just to get the three issues Ihave.  Oh
well.......

Doug

#: 18026 S1/General Interest
    04-May-93  20:54:28
Sb: RT-11 conversion
Fm: Robert Bogart 72233,2032
To: All

Does anyone know of a way to convert RT-11 macro code to run under OS-9, other
than manually ?
I know that sounds ancient, but I have a customer running a lot of RT code and
it really needs to be upgraded.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

#: 18056 S1/General Interest
    06-May-93  20:33:59
Sb: New Mag
Fm: DOUG 72667,1433
To:  76070,41 (X)

Mark, sounds good on the Magazine.  I'm interested in one of those free copies.
Sorry, my brain is too burned to think of a title.

Address is Doug Hall 4 Linden Brook Way East Windsor NJ  08520

Thanx and good luck!!!!

Doug

#: 18004 S7/Telecommunications
    02-May-93  22:34:08
Sb: #17994-#?t3 questions
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

 >
 > I'm using a SupraFaxModem upto 14.4. I'd give it a fair rating, but wouldn't
 > purchase another until Supra fixes the current problems. (Lot's of problems
 > connecting with other modems)
 >
    Thanks for this info, is this because it uses the Rockwell chipset?


 >
 > Jumper P4 controls the setting for RTS and DTR. You'll need to set this to
 > toggle (rather than tied high) for use with a high speed modem. Also, the
type
 > bit on /t3 or /t4 will need to be xmoded to 80.
 >
    Okay, when I use /T3 with a 2400 baud modem this should then set to tied
high?


 >
 > You're gonna love it. If you need any help setting it up, just shout!
 >
 > *- Steve -*
 >

   So far so good I am using it to reply to this message so if you are reading
this I guess I am doing okay.

Thanks Keith Bauer

CIS   :71102,317 Delphi:keithbauer Genie :k.bauer


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#: 18020 S7/Telecommunications
    04-May-93  05:32:36
Sb: #18004-?t3 questions
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

Keith,

The message looks fine, so you must have gotten InfoXpress working. Congrats!

Yes ... the Supra uses the Rockwell chipset. They've been "beta"ing a new rev
that supposedly fixes the problems but ....

On the jumpers ... I've got em both (/t3 and /t4) set to enable hardware
handshaking. I use the SupraFax modem on /t3 with the port set to 19200 and
another Supra 2400 on /t4. Both are doing just fine.

This should be in the 'toggle' position.

*- Steve -*


#: 18000 S7/Telecommunications
    01-May-93  20:31:37
Sb: #17990-#?t3 questions
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

Keith, I have a 'infotel' 9600 v32/42.bis modem which I got from Midwest Micro.
I have no complaints at all...expect that no one has written any software to
use the fax capabilites <g>.

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#: 18005 S7/Telecommunications
    02-May-93  22:34:22
Sb: #18000-?t3 questions
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

 > Keith, I have a 'infotel' 9600 v32/42.bis modem which I got from Midwest
Micro.
 > I have no complaints at all...expect that no one has written any software to
 > use the fax capabilites <g>.
 >

Thanks Bob, I will make up a list of the ones that are being used so I have
something to go on when I go shopping. The one I get will have the fax
capabilites because I am sure someone will come up with the program to use it.
Right Mark <GRIN>

Keith Bauer

CIS   :71102,317 Delphi:keithbauer Genie :k.bauer


#: 18013 S7/Telecommunications
    03-May-93  16:28:47
Sb: Dropped characters
Fm: Jon Beach 70004,1607
To: all

I have just recently started getting back into using my CoCo 3 for
telecommunications, I have started having a problem with dropped characters
that was not present previously.  There have been changes to my system, both
hardware and software and I wonder if I could have any help from you guys in
solving this problem.

Previously, I was using an FD-501 disk controller and my modem was attached to
the built-in serial port on the computer.  I had installed a hardware 
modification ("The Forgotten Chip" hack from the Rainbow Magazine) which
basically was an internal modification that provided full ACIA support through
the built in port without any external hardware (like a program pak). This ACIA
is addressed at $FF30 and had an IRQ line tied directly to the 6809.

I was using the stock CC3Disk driver modified for 512 byte sector support, the
stock ACIAPAK driver modified for a 256 byte buffer and the stock T2 descriptor
modified for the $FF30 ACIA address.  My primary terminal program was the
shareware verision of Eddie Kuns's K-BCOM terminal program, though I did use
OS-TERM by Vaughn Cato.

Since then, I started using a Disto Super Controller-II with a 3-n-1 Mini
Expansion Board which provided an additional serial port (addressed at $FF54).
I am also using the CC3Disk driver supplied with the SC-II which provides
no-halt disk by sleeping when not in use (as opposed to the one using IRQ). The
IRQ for the serial port is tied directly to the IRQ pin in the cartridge port.

Additionally, I started using Bruce Isted's SACIA driver (with matching
descriptors) which I have set to support maximum buffer size (which is a few
K).  Also, I have added various of the Level 2 "upgrade" patches like the
kernal patch for filenames.  Also, I have in addition to the above terminal
programs, I have started using STERM which is the best program that supports
the CIS B protocl.

I have tried various configurations of ACIA drivers and the several versions of
CC3Disk and the problem is less obvious using the SACIA driver and the no-halt
CC3Disk that sleeps.  However, the problem is still present.  I cannot go back
to using the internal ACIA circuit because a side-effect of using the no-halt
disk drivers (either version) is that garbage is occasionally sent out the
built in serial port (though the problem disappears if I use the stock or
512-sector versions of CC3Disk).

Any ideas on this problem? I have drawn a blank on all solutions.

Jon Beach

P.S.  I forgot to mention it but my modem runs at 1200 baud and my T2
descriptor is XMODE'd accordingly.

#: 18014 S7/Telecommunications
    03-May-93  18:36:37
Sb: #InfoXpress
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To:  Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Hi Bill,

Had to try out InfoXpress as soon as I got home from the fest.  Even at 2am,
and after driving about 300 miles, the installation went very well.  The
program only choked once, because I had my modem set up to ignore DTR (a
leftover part of a temporary cure for early problems with "/T0"). Once I set it
to `read and heed DTR' it did a better job of hanging up the phone.  This is
the program's first outgoing message.   Nice Job.


   John R. Wainwright


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#: 18015 S7/Telecommunications
    03-May-93  19:16:10
Sb: #18014-InfoXpress
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

John,

Its good to hear that you had very little trouble setting up InfoXpress. Its
one of the areas that I spent a great deal of time on, but not something that
was easy to test!

        -Bill-

#: 18019 S7/Telecommunications
    04-May-93  03:52:59
Sb: #InfoXpress
Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
To: all

What is InfoXpress? I communications program I gather !! Will it work
on a K4 system, or is it just for the MM/1??

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#: 18023 S7/Telecommunications
    04-May-93  17:30:56
Sb: #18019-InfoXpress
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X)

Scott,

InfoXpress is a "auto-nav" communications program for OS9/OSK. It allows you to
define your favorite places on CompuServe and Delphi and then will nab and
process your mail and forum messages unattended.

It works grand on the MM/1 (been running it for a loooong time!), and there's
an official version for the CoCo as well. It's been tested on a TC70 with some
success (depending on the serial port used), not sure of it's status on one of
Ed's machines, tho. Perhaps they had a chance to test it at the 'fest.

It's a commercial offering. Drop a note to Bill Dickhaus for more info if he
doesn't already pipe up and answer your message as well.



*- Steve -*


#: 18037 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    05-May-93  11:02:59
Sb: LZH for Coco
Fm: Don Kircher 76346,3475
To: All

 Hi Guys!
          Who ever uploaded LZH for Coco -- it works wonderful in house but
IBMERS have not been able to dearchive files created with it. Could this be a
bug, or is it version related on the IBMers part. A friend of mine said the
archive seemed to get trashed worse with each attempt to dearchive it. It has
forced me to shelve it in favor of tried and true OS9ARC. Pity too cause it
mashes the file smaller than arc does. Thx dlk

#: 18054 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
    06-May-93  20:16:09
Sb: #SMOKE SIG BDCTG & XMODE
Fm: DOUG 72667,1433
To: all

Hi all, Haven't been able to get on the forum as often as I'd like... Last I
knew it looked like SSB was no longer.. anyone have any info on them boys???
When I upgraded to  OS9 Level II I didn't get XMODE from them boys.  Anyone got
a copy they can "spare??" Thanx

Doug

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#: 18058 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo)
    07-May-93  00:13:31
Sb: #18054-SMOKE SIG BDCTG & XMODE
Fm: Jeff Kaneko 71161,3232
To: DOUG 72667,1433

Doug:
        Wow, you mean there is someone out there who remembers SSB?  I kinda
figured that they went under (they refused to seel their soul to DOS, I
imagine).

        I never did get into level II -- although I still have some SSB
hardware that used to run FLEX and SSB DOS.  What applications to you use your
6809 for?

Jeff

#: 18011 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-May-93  13:47:54
Sb: #17996-#makpal
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,
     I'll try that pause before the Select(0).
  I'm beginning to think I have a problem here with WINDIO or the window
descriptors.
  I had thought originally that when you do a Select(Wpath) after Wpath has
been opened (Wpath - open("/w",3)), Stdin, Stdout, Stderr would all be set to
Wpath. That was the way it worked on the CoCo in Basic09. But when I try that
in C on the MM1, the only path that was being set to Wpath, was Stdout, the
other 2 (Stdin,Stderr), remained set to the original path. So when I did the
Select, I could output to the screen, but I couldn't get any input into Wpath
from the keyboard. If I then Selected the original path, the characters I was
trying to enter into Wpath, were here, on path.
  I have been trying to over come this, but with no luck, so that was why I
finally just set it up to DWEnd the original path then DWSet Wpath.

   Now I'm thinking that the problem is with my system, because I just bought
Write-Right from Joel Hegberg at the Chicago fest, and he has a printer setup
routine that is acting the same way. He opens a small window which contains
various controls to set and enter printer controls into a file, every thing in
the panel is mouse driven, and works fine, but when I try to enter the printer
codes from the keyboard, nothing is placed on the screen. Then when I select
Quit, and the program exits, the numbers that I had entered are there on the
original path.

  So I'm going to go through all the window associated boot modules and see if
this is the problem.

Larry

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#: 18031 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  03:51:15
Sb: #18011-makpal
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)


Your modules are fine.  They are data modules that get data written to them,
when that happens the CRC is no longer valid.  It's just the way data modules
are. :)

** Here's a little sample of how to open a new window and
** read from it.  If you need an explination just yell.
*/

#include <stdio.h>
#include <wind.h>

extern int errno;

#ifndef TRUE
#define TRUE  1
#define FALSE 0
#endif

main()
{
        int wpath;

    /* Open /w */
    if ((wpath = open("/w",3)) == -1)
        exit(_errmsg(errno,"Can't open /w\n"));
    /* Set up the window */
    if (DWSet(wpath,3,0,0,40,26,0xff,2,0) == -1)
        exit(_errmsg(errno,"Can't Setup /w\n"));
    /* Now display it */
    Select(wpath);

    /* Do stuff on wpath */
    do_stuff(wpath);
    /* Reselect the first screen */
    Select(0);
    /* Close the other window */
    close(wpath);
    exit(0);
}

do_stuff(path)
int path;
{
        unsigned char key;
        int xit = FALSE;

        _ss_wset(path,WT_FBOX,NULL);

    /* Now just sit and wait for a character */
        do {
                while (_gs_rdy(path) <= 0)   /* wait for a input */
                    tsleep(0x80000020);      /* go to sleep for 1/8 of a second */

            read(path,&key,1);           /* read the keypress */
                switch(key) {
            case 'q':
                xit = TRUE;
                break;
            default:
                Bell(path);
            }
        } while (! xit);
}


#: 18018 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-May-93  03:12:02
Sb: #17996-#makpal
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,
   Do you have any idea where the module WData is located. Is it merged into
shell ?
   Why I'm asking is, when I do an MDIR, it shows something is corrupting my
modules.
   One of the lines displayed is as follows:

syscall    break      WData        dat00e00000   cls

  When I run mdir into ident using -s -m -z=mlist (mlist is a list of modules)
three modules come up as bad t3, WData, and that dat00e00000.

  t3 is ok when identing the boot file, but I can't find WData anywhere.

  Larry (always something) Olson

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#: 18025 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-May-93  17:31:25
Sb: #18018-#makpal
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)

 Odds are /t3 comes up bad is that a parameter has been changed with xmode form
it's stock settings. This shouldn't be a problem.

I suspect the same goes for the other two. All three show bad CRC's here as
well.



*- Steve -*


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#: 18027 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-May-93  21:38:11
Sb: #18025-#makpal
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

 /T3 in the startup file.
  As for the other 2, I made a Startup file with nothing in it except iniz h0,
and those modules (WData  dat00e00000), are still there. If I do a Mdir -e it
shows those 2 modules as being Data modules. What I'm trying to figure out is
where they are coming from.

   Do you know if anyone has a master list of the latest editions of all the
boot modules, and their crc values. I'm wondering now if I have an older
version of something thats causing this window Select problem. larry Steve,
  I didn't even think about that, but you are right, I'm am using Xmode on

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#: 18032 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  03:51:23
Sb: #18027-#makpal
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)

dat00e00000 is a data module that the SCSI driver creates, WData is created by
WindIO.

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#: 18038 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  12:26:30
Sb: #18032-makpal
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Mike,
   Thanks for the window opening example, that is basicly what I have tried,
but for some reason it doesn't work on my machine.

   Hold everything...  I just tried Joel's printer setup program again and now
it is working. I'll go back and try those window opening test programs and see
if they are working. I don't know why its working now, I did make a new boot
but didn't add any new modules.
  I have to figure out what I did that worked.

  I'll keep you posted

larry

#: 18028 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-May-93  21:45:56
Sb: #18025-makpal
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Steve,
  A couple of lines got chopped off on the last message. You are right, I am
changing /T3 with Xmode in the startup file. What through me there was that the
CRC value in the boot file was good but the crc value in memory was bad, even
though they were the same value. I thought I was looking at memory problems.

larry

#: 18029 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-May-93  22:03:15
Sb: #18018-#makpal
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)

Larry: wdata and dat00e0000 are data modules used by the kwindows and the scsii
drivers. They are created by the drivers on startup. They are used for variable
storage, etc. and so will never have a valid CRC. Beware that the OSK xmode
does NOT update the CRC of a module...so if you modify a desc. you'll have to
use something else to update the crc if you want to save the module. Moded,
amoung others, works fine for this. If the ROMs were bad and you had one or
more bad modules, then those modules would not appear in the mdir. I had that
problem with my original ROMs...one of the modules (dir) only showed up in the
mdir some of the time. Probably just a flaky bit in the ROM. My new ROMs don't
have that problem...but I still can't boot from the hard drive (anyone have
anymore help on this?).

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#: 18030 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  01:39:18
Sb: #18029-#makpal
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,
  Yes, I was going through modules with DED and found the reference to WData
in Windio, so I assumed it was put there for some reason. I couldn't find
that dat00e00000 so I wasn't sure about that one yet.
  Thanks for giving an explanation of what modules put them there.

  So now where do I look to fix the problem I'm having with Select<g>.

  I don't know if you saw that previous message, but I just bought a program
at the fest, and it is suffering from the same problem that I have been
having with trying to use Select. This program that I bought, opens a window,
puts various controls on it, then waits for you to make selections with the
mouse. When one of the selections is made, the program then expects to get
some numbers from the keyboard, well, here the mouse functions fine but none
of the things I enter at the keyboard make it to the program, nothing is
echoed to the screen. After a few minutes of frustration, I do a control-C
to get out of the program, and when I get out, there on the screen are all
the characters that I had typed. For some reason, the Select syscall isn't
duping all three paths when called, it is only duping STDOUT.

  I'm currently using:

Windio  ed #48  crc E50CC0
Keydrv  ed $46  crc 9AAE1D
term    ed #5   crc 1110F3
cio     ed #6   crc E9ADF1
shell   ed #52  crc BFD301
wcf     ed #30  crc D1703B
scf     ed #31  crc B41F17

  Do any of these look way out of date ? Oh by the way Syscall #0 crc 50C6B7.

larry

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#: 18040 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  17:30:58
Sb: #18030-makpal
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467

 >   I'm currently using:
 >
 > Windio  ed #48  crc E50CC0
 > Keydrv  ed $46  crc 9AAE1D
 > term    ed #5   crc 1110F3
 > cio     ed #6   crc E9ADF1
 > shell   ed #52  crc BFD301
 > wcf     ed #30  crc D1703B
 > scf     ed #31  crc B41F17
 >
 >   Do any of these look way out of date ? Oh by the way Syscall #0 crc
50C6B7.
 >

This are identical to what I'm using. I'd say you're current and up to date
with your modules.


*- Steve -*


#: 17998 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    01-May-93  20:31:27
Sb: #17986-#makpal
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)

Larry, Here is a segment of code from a game I am working on...It selects a
screen for i/o, etc. Shout if you need more explanations:

 grpnum = getpid();
 path=open("/w",S_IREAD+S_IWRITE);
 if(path<1) dosomething to terminate...
 _gs_opt(path,&optbuf);  ...ya might want more here
 pause=optbuf.sg_pause;  ...to set up the keyboard
 optbuf.sg_pause=0;
 _ss_opt(path,&optbuf);
 KilBuf(path,grpnum,0);
 DWSet(path,0,0,0,80,26,WHITE,BLACK,BLACK);
 ScaleSw(path,0);    /* make sure scaling is on */
 LSet(path,0);
 CurOff(path);
 ...more init stuff ...
 _ss_wset(path,WT_FWIN,&windat);
 BColor(path,BLACK);
 Clear(path);
 Select(path);

I've not run into the 'fuzzy screen' problem. The "more init stuff" apparently
takes the time required (from Mike's message).

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#: 18012 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-May-93  13:55:38
Sb: #17998-makpal
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,
  I just left Mike a message, trying to explain what I have been running into.
It looks like its a problem with my system, that the Select isn't working like
it should. I'm going to go back through all the window modules and make sure I
have the latest version, and if they are good.
 larry

#: 17999 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    01-May-93  20:31:32
Sb: #17997-#login
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Interested??? Of course! Please upload it. If no one else nabs it, I will.

Probably not a problem to keep the mroff name. It appears to do all the latest
mroff I have does, plus more--so it shouldn't confuse things too much. I think
the mroff I have you did too.

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#: 18002 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    02-May-93  02:31:33
Sb: #17999-#login
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob, I put the binary up in the MM/1 section.  Lemm know what you think OK?

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#: 18003 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    02-May-93  13:10:29
Sb: #18002-#login
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

Thanks Mike. I got the binary and tried it out. This gives much better
results...but... Well, ya know. I archived the text file I'm trying to print
and have put in your CIS mailbox. It will generate some more errors when you
try to print it. A few of the problems relate to undefined macros; others don't
seem to like a single '.' as a macro argument. Let me know how you make out.

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#: 18045 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-May-93  02:41:27
Sb: #18003-login
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Hey Bob,

I just fixed the problem with the durn tabs and bold+string+endbold+string
stuff.  The unknow command <.> was being caused by trying to bold the word then
following it with a '.'.  The dot was being translated into a \n. so mroff
though it was a command!

Added \f2 to turn on bold and \f1 to turn it back off.  This can be embedded in
the text now.  The last version I sent ya still had a problem with some macros.

I'll put together another upload. <Sigh!>  Sorry it wasn't working the way I
thought it was.

#: 18006 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    02-May-93  22:34:37
Sb: #17997-#login
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X)

 > I think I have just the ticket for you.  I just finished playing with Mroff
so
 > it'll except single char <.> dot commands and print most n/troff manual
pages.
 > Added .q for quoting a string, .tr for transliterating chars, and more. I
have
 > a macrofile also that will expand most the n/troff commands.
 >
 > Interested?  Think there is enough interest in it to upload it for public
 > consumption?  Maybe the name should be changed to nroff or something too?
 >
 >  - Mike -
 >

Mike I for one would be very interested in this. I have been tring to work with
the GCC compiler but the docs are in this form so they really are not much help
to me. Keith Bauer

CIS   :71102,317 Delphi:keithbauer Genie :k.bauer


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#: 18046 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-May-93  02:41:36
Sb: #18006-#login
Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

Ok Keith,

I'll get you a copy too!  You can beta test it for me. :)

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#: 18050 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-May-93  17:30:52
Sb: #18046-#login
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433

Mike,

Nice to see you tinkering again! How are things coming on the offical release
version of Desktop?

Still the slickest thing going for the MM/1. Anything we can do to help things
along? My free time is about to go as I'll be leaving Datapage 5/21.

Lemme know!


*- Steve -*


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#: 18052 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-May-93  19:01:11
Sb: #18050-#login
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Steve,

Mark had Desktop running on the MM/1 he was using to show off the floptical
drive. I think we had more questions about Desktop than anything else!

 > Still the slickest thing going for the MM/1.

Now wait a minute....<grin>

        -Bill-

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#: 18059 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-May-93  17:30:38
Sb: #18052-login
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

 > Steve,
 >
 > Mark had Desktop running on the MM/1 he was using to show off the floptical
 > drive. I think we had more questions about Desktop than anything else!
 >
 >  > Still the slickest thing going for the MM/1.
 >
 > Now wait a minute....<grin>
 >
 >         -Bill-
 > Whoops!

What I meant to say was ...

Err...

uhh ...

It's been the slickest thing going for the MM/1 until Bill's InfoExpress hit
the street.


Yeah ... that's the ticket!

:-)

Bet Mike could have unloaded a few copies of Desktop at the 'fest had he been
so inclined.


*- Steve -*


#: 18001 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    01-May-93  21:14:26
Sb: OSK machines
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: All

I'm looking at the OSK machines and the Kix30 really looks good.

Anyone have one?   Any comments?

I also saw an Ad in the latest OS9-UG newsletter about a System V from Delmar.
Anyone tried it yet?

   David

#: 18007 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    02-May-93  22:35:48
Sb: #Porting DOS
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: all

I'm trying to port a program which converts gif files to tif format. I can't
get past the following line:

        FP_OFF(IFD_body) += sizeof(TIF_header);

I assume that FP_OFF is a macro...but I can't find it defined anywhere.
However, I did comment out a #include <dos.h>. So, I assume that FP_OFF is
defined there (perhaps a standard MS_DOS thingie?). Any ideas?

There is 1 Reply.

#: 18009 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-May-93  09:28:42
Sb: #18007-#Porting DOS
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

Found it in DOS.H..  here it is:

        #define FP_OFF(fp) ((unsigned)(fp))

Good luck!

Pete

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#: 18017 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-May-93  21:45:40
Sb: #18009-Porting DOS
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)

Thanks. Sort of thought it'd be something like that. Trust them to do hide a
cast in a macro...sure makes for clear, easy to read code <g>.

#: 18008 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    02-May-93  22:39:20
Sb: #InfoXpress
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To:  70325,523 (X)

Bill, Just a word of thanks for a great new program. I just had my first test
drive with InfoXpress and it worked great!! Now if I have the guts to run it in
the middle of the night.....

Thanks keith

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#: 18010 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-May-93  13:23:29
Sb: #18008-InfoXpress
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

Keith,

I'm glad you like it! I've been running InfoXpress at 5:30 AM for the last six
months. Its nice to be able to wake up in the morning and just sit down and
read my messages.

        -Bill-

#: 18021 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-May-93  05:33:00
Sb: #18008-#InfoXpress
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

 > Now if I have the guts to run it in the middle of the night.....
 >



I too have been having IX do my message runs on auto-pilot. Twice a day. First
run at 5:30 am for both Delphi and CIS, then again at 5:30pm for CIS only.

That way, I have all my mail to read over coffee in the morning as well as over
a beer after I get home from the office. Neat stuff. It's solid.

If it has a problem, it tends to error to the conservative and drops connection
fairly rapidly.

It's cut my online time down on Delphi, where I actually stay under the 4
hours/month usage I get with the $10 plan.

*- Steve -*


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#: 18034 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  06:17:10
Sb: #18021-InfoXpress
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

 >
 > I too have been having IX do my message runs on auto-pilot. Twice a day.
First
 > run at 5:30 am for both Delphi and CIS, then again at 5:30pm for CIS only.

        I think I will run mine at 5:30am 3 days a week and see how that
        goes.

 > It's cut my online time down on Delphi, where I actually stay under the 4
 > hours/month usage I get with the $10 plan.
 >
 > *- Steve -*
 >

        I hope this also helps me keep the LD charges down and stay in touch
        with what is happening.

Keith Bauer

 CIS   :71102,317
 Delphi:keithbauer
 Genie :k.bauer


#: 18016 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    03-May-93  19:36:02
Sb: #using InfoXpress w/cron
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To:  Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Bill,
    I have gotten InfoXpress to work with cron but it doesn't seem like the
right way to do it. I use SH for my shell. In crontab this is the way I have it
setup:

30 05 * * 1 (setenv TERM vsc;ix -o -l=y -q=2 -c=/h0/ix/work/default)

My question about this is the fact that I have to put the setenv statement in
there. Without this I get an error when running ix saying that the TERM
variable has not been set even thought I do set it from the startup file as
well as .login (I start login from sysgo). Is there another way of doing this
or is this the proper way?

I have only had InfoXpress for 2 days and I can already see that I will be more
active in the forums than I have ever been.

Thanks much Keith Bauer

 CIS   :71102,317
 Delphi:keithbauer
 Genie :k.bauer


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#: 18022 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-May-93  05:57:30
Sb: #18016-#using InfoXpress w/cron
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

Keith,

The problem is that cron isn't passing the environment when it forks the
command line. I discovered this a while back, and then we rediscovered it
during early testing of InfoXpress. I took the cron thats in LIB 12 and fixed
it. I'll clean it up and upload it.

        -Bill-

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#: 18035 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  06:19:24
Sb: #18022-using InfoXpress w/cron
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

 > Keith,
 >
 > The problem is that cron isn't passing the environment when it forks the
 > command line. I discovered this a while back, and then we rediscovered it
 > during early testing of InfoXpress. I took the cron thats in LIB 12 and
fixed
 > it. I'll clean it up and upload it.
 >
 >         -Bill-
 >

        Great, I will look for it this weekend and give it a try. It works
        the way I have it but it doesn't seem clean :-).

Keith Bauer

 CIS   :71102,317
 Delphi:keithbauer
 Genie :k.bauer


#: 18024 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-May-93  17:31:11
Sb: #18016-#using InfoXpress w/cron
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

I handle it this way:

Cron calls the following script. The echoes to 'test.log' are left over
debugging statements. There's probabbly a better way to do it, but this has
worked great for me.


setenv TERM vsc chd /dd/usr/steve/ix echo "starting check_mail" >+test.log date
>+test.log ix -o -q=2 echo "ending check_mail" >+test.log date >+test.log




*- Steve -*


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#: 18036 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  06:19:52
Sb: #18024-#using InfoXpress w/cron
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

 > I handle it this way:
 >
 > Cron calls the following script. The echoes to 'test.log' are left over
 > debugging statements. There's probabbly a better way to do it, but this has
 > worked great for me.
 >
 > setenv TERM vsc chd /dd/usr/steve/ix echo "starting check_mail" >+test.log
date
 > >+test.log ix -o -q=2 echo "ending check_mail" >+test.log date >+test.log
 >
 > *- Steve -*
 >


        Steve, What does the >+ do in the script, I have never seen that
        before? Is it append? Are you using SH or shell?


Keith Bauer

 CIS   :71102,317
 Delphi:keithbauer
 Genie :k.bauer


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#: 18039 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  17:30:45
Sb: #18036-using InfoXpress w/cron
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X)

 >         Steve, What does the >+ do in the script, I have never seen that
 >         before? Is it append? Are you using SH or shell?

Yup ... it's the OSK way to append to an exisitng file. Converely, >- should
overwrite the contents of an existing file.

I'm running the stock MW shell ... SH, as it is now, has a major security hole
that makes it's use on a dialup system such as mine, unacceptable. I hear tell,
tho, that Carl K. has a rewrite on his list of things to do.


*- Steve -*


#: 18041 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-May-93  19:17:37
Sb: BGFX docs
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To:  All

At last years Chicago Fest I picked up BGFX from IMS. My son is now tring to do
some things with basic but I am unable to give him any docs on what BGFX does.
I know that it is pretty much like the enhanced GFX2 but I am not sure how
things like the menu calls work. Has anyone else gotten any docs for BGFX? If
so could I get them from you or could you tell me how to come up with them.

Thanks

Keith Bauer

 CIS   :71102,317
 Delphi:keithbauer
 Genie :k.bauer


#: 18057 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-May-93  21:21:50
Sb: Desktop
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To: Mike Haaland

Mike,

When will Desktop be ready for sale?  I'm tired of typing!  :-)

Hugo

#: 18053 S14/misc/info/Soapbox
    06-May-93  20:00:49
Sb: OS9 Underground?????
Fm: DOUG 72667,1433
To: all

I hate doing this... but has anyone recently received any copies of the OS9
Underground?????  I have had to write to Mr. Sheltra at least three times now
and have only received three issues (one of which was the FREE issue).  He's
said I haven't been "snookered".  However.... I firmly believe otherwise.  If
he is using an OS/68K system for his mailing list it isn't working!!!!!!!  I'm
ready to call the California AG.  Anyone got some info???  He hasn't answered
my most recent letter of about three weeks ago.

Press <CR> !>