From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: sick           
Date & Time: 01/29/90 14:39:24
Message Number  1603

You'd better check your temperature, boy; I think you're delirious.
EVERYONE knows the only reason Nastassia likes you is your Cal Arts
tape... }:>
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: 4096 colors    
Date & Time: 01/29/90 14:40:57
Message Number  1604

I dunno if I'd say the movie had /no/ value; I rather liked the idea
of a programmable "environment chamber" where you can...um, experience
exotic surroundings. (Yeah! Yeah, that's it!) The rest of the movie
was kinda lame, though.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Simulated crime
Date & Time: 01/29/90 14:43:49
Message Number  1605

Of course some policemen have brains that work. Maybe not in Florida,
but I'm sure some policemen have brains that work. That just makes
things interesting.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: Did I Tell You?
Date & Time: 01/29/90 14:46:41
Message Number  1606

Happy Birthday, doode!
 
(c) 1990 The Death To You All greeting card company.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: stoorkeeper    
Date & Time: 01/29/90 16:57:52
Message Number  1607

STOORKEEPER (n.) one who keeps stoors.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 01/29/90 17:00:26
Message Number  1608

I have never been one to "force" my beliefs down the throats of others.
However, if I witness a homicide in progress, I will do what I can to
prevent it - and until someone convinces me otherwise I consider
abortion murder.  I dont believe in sitting around bitching about the
state of the world around me - I believe that it is my right to do
whatever I want to recreate the world in my image (and it is everyone
else's right to try and stop me if they wish).  Now, I know there ap-
pears to be a contradiction within this message but there really isnt.
I continue in my efforts to change things but I try not to be obnoxious
about it.  And by the way...I may not be willing to adopt every unwant-
ed child on the planet but I would be willing to provide contraceptives
to any who could not afford or obtain them by themselves.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 01/29/90 17:10:53
Message Number  1609

[My, arent we an antogonistic Turtle today...]
I've tried that, it still alters the contrasting tones.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Casablanca     
Date & Time: 01/29/90 17:14:07
Message Number  1610

Well, I guess Turner is a dead man then. Pity...I'd hoped to avoid in-
carceration this lifetime.  Perhaps I could find a jury who would agree
that it was justifiable homicide......
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 01/29/90 17:18:42
Message Number  1611

Dear Chip:
     I'm sorry but I cannot view dismemberment of a living being as a
"necessary evil."  If there were a more humane method of aborting, or
if legislation would place a restriction re: the age of the fetus so 
that dismemberment abortions were prevented, then I might consider
changing my support.
     Don't worry - I have never been one to use abstention as an
arguement for prevention.  It doesn't work on ANY scale.
                                      The Yngling
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 01/29/90 18:01:55
Message Number  1612

I'd be willing to go to California if:
1) I had the money.
2) My folks said "O.K., call when ya get there."
3) I had a really valid reason to go to California.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: sick           
Date & Time: 01/29/90 18:04:01
Message Number  1613

>5% alcohol? That's it? Sheesh...
Well, your not supposed to get drunk off the stuff.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: Did I Tell You?
Date & Time: 01/29/90 18:08:07
Message Number  1614

Happy birthday, is the party this weekend?  I hear Chip always brings
a big Chocolate Chip cookie.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: sick           
Date & Time: 01/29/90 18:09:05
Message Number  1615

Actually, my tale reminds her of that picture she did "...and the 
Serpent." (I think that's the title, I know it has a snake)  Of course,
I could be delirious.
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: RUFUS               
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 01/29/90 19:56:15
Message Number  1616

> 3) I had a really valid reason to go to California.
 
(1) The San Diego Comic Con.  (2) The Furry Parties at the San Diego
Comic Con.  (3) The other parties at the San Diego Comic Con.
(4) That neat mall next to the hotel the Furry Parties were held in.
 
See, there's four valid reasons already.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 01/29/90 21:26:49
Message Number  1617

Well, right at this moment, I have no reason to go.  But I'l agree, 
those are four VERY good reasons.  Getting the money would be the easy 
part, now point 2 is, to say the least, a major problem.
===========

From: THE ONE             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Hello...       
Date & Time: 01/30/90 01:12:31
Message Number  1620

Give them my number please. I am desperate........
  For callers...
===========

From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SAURON              
Subject: SCBBS to Sauron
Date & Time: 01/30/90 12:51:02
Message Number  1621

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===========

From: MIKE L              
To: ALL                 
Subject: RIFLE FOR SALE 
Date & Time: 01/30/90 17:36:36
Message Number  1622

I HAVE A PELLET/BB RIFLE WITH A SCOPE ON IT FOR SALE 
IT IS THE MOST POWERFUL AIR GUN OF ITS TYPE AT 1760 FPS
WILL SELL FOR 45$
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: RUFUS               
Subject: All In Favor Of
Date & Time: 01/30/90 19:23:53
Message Number  1623

All in favor of me going to college in California say "I"!!!!!!
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: RUFUS               
Subject: EErr..         
Date & Time: 01/30/90 19:24:39
Message Number  1624

No, T'was /last/ weekend....DIdn't really have any sort of party, tho...
 
REMOTE CONTROL! - 378-2218 - 300/1200 Baud
(ACK!  And NO, my 2400 is somewhere between Oregon and here!)
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: EErr..         
Date & Time: 01/30/90 20:39:23
Message Number  1626

Well, why not have a party this weekend.  Maybe someone would give you
an MSTF application for your birthday!
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: RUFUS               
Subject: eerr...        
Date & Time: 01/31/90 12:55:21
Message Number  1628

Well, maybe I should....it'd be pretty fun to have a party this weekend.
But where would we have it, and is Bart seriously going to give me an
MSTF application???
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: eerr...        
Date & Time: 01/31/90 17:34:50
Message Number  1629

Your rich, rent a banquet hall!  I'm sure if you had a party we could
get you an MSTF application.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: VGA            
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:07:53
Message Number  1630

  Someone's in the wrong message chain. I suspect it's me. 
===========

From: SAURON              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: VGA            
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:09:55
Message Number  1631

  What /I MEANT WAS/ if anyone tells you their color perception is
sharper than 4096 colors allows...they ought to be touching up the
Sistine chapel. (did I spell that right?)
  OK Chip - I got the gist of it now.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: VGA            
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:13:18
Message Number  1632

  Oh, like a mere 3 or 4 thousand don't look realistic?
===========

From: SAURON              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:15:32
Message Number  1633

  What's the story on you guys? Is it so difficult to turn your color
control counter-clockwise?  Much ado about nothing.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:18:28
Message Number  1634

  Bovine Excretia!! You beat me to the punch on that one. (I've already
posted an almost identical response)
===========

From: SAURON              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Ice Pirates    
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:22:10
Message Number  1635

  Ron was wearing that heavy makeup because his face looks like a 47'
Nash fuel pump.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Did I Tell You?
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:24:17
Message Number  1636

  C-Net automatically wishes you a "Happy Birthday" Hehehehe
===========

From: SAURON              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:28:32
Message Number  1637

  Fairly thoughtful views there Chip. Good show.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:30:02
Message Number  1638

  Read C.M. Kornbluth's "The Marching Morons" sometime. All will become
clear.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:31:39
Message Number  1639

  Thank you. That's all I've been saying for over a year.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Simulated crime
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:32:43
Message Number  1640

  A stoorkeeper is one who trains members of one of the three strains of
Hobbit.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:34:09
Message Number  1641

  Let me "impose" one of MY views on you; Homicide is unlawful.
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Who Me?        
Date & Time: 01/31/90 18:47:52
Message Number  1642

Rich!?  SInce when!?  I'm not rich until my parents die and I get 
what's left over!  :)
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: SAURON              
Subject: VGA            
Date & Time: 01/31/90 20:35:29
Message Number  1643

4096 colors is only 16 levels for each primary color.  The difference
between each level may not be astounding, but it's quite noticeable,
especially the brighter the colors get -- if you take a picture that's
been created with 256 levels per color (a 16 million color palette) and
display it side-by-side on a Mac II and an Amiga, the Mac II one will
have perceptibly smoother shading.  Minor quibbles, to be sure, but the
human eye can distinguish around 2 million distinct hues.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: MIKE L              
Subject: RIFLE FOR SALE 
Date & Time: 01/31/90 23:16:19
Message Number  1645

Who makes it, and what kind of scope? I might possibly be interested;
I also know someone who almost certainly will be.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: Simulated crime
Date & Time: 01/31/90 23:20:25
Message Number  1646

So how do I become a stoorkeeper? I want to engage in simulated crime
for fun and profit, and Chip says stoorkeepers are the people who get
to do it.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 01/31/90 23:21:27
Message Number  1647

>...Homicide is unlawful.
 
So is jaywalking. Abortion, however, is not. Let us get our terms
straight here: abortion is not murder for the simple reason that you
can't murder something that is not a sentient being, any more than
you can murder a blade of grass.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: SAURON              
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 02/01/90 17:11:50
Message Number  1649

Next thing you know you'll be suggesting that we take up painting-by-
numbers.  True art should not be tampered with. Period.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: SAURON              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 02/01/90 17:16:33
Message Number  1650

Thats ALL youve been saying for over a year?  Over and over again?
Man, talk about a bad year.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: ALL                 
Subject: Dolphins & Tuna
Date & Time: 02/01/90 17:19:18
Message Number  1651

This follows my earlier message re: the killing of dolphins by tuna
fishermen.
   I received a letter today from the president of Van Camp Seafood
(Chicken of the Sea) which was a reply to a letter I had sent him.  In
it he stated the following:
   "...only about 3.5% of our tuna purchases was yellowfin tuna caught
by foreign sources...we strongly believe that a complete cessation of
these purchases would have eliminated any desire of these parties to wor
k with us to further reduce dolphin mortality."
   He also sent me some "information" which he felt I should have which
included the statement: "The purse-seine fishing method...is the only
known technique known which can catch the quantities recquired by the
international canned tuna market."
   After reading this I feel like coughing up a hairball.  But now I
understand...we HAVE to slaughter the dolphins or else we cant have
tuna cassarole on Saturday.
   If any of you would like to write to this asshole (and I REALLY hope
some of you will):  J. E. Munoz, President
                    Van Camp Seafood Co.
                    11555 Sorrento Valley Rd, Suite 100
                    San Diego, CA 92121-1396
or: FAX# 619-481-9344.
Thank you for reading this.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Bionic VGA eyes
Date & Time: 02/01/90 21:38:39
Message Number  1653

   Not to quibble, but the average human eye can distinguish more like 7
million distinct hues.  Of course, that hardly matters since we rarely
are presented with all 7 million hues at the same time.  Sure, we can 
see them, but we certainly don't need them.  4096 or whatever is plenty
of variety for me, thank you very much.
 
   Anyway, one can't even look at a single object like a sheet of paper
without being exposed to different hues.  Perhaps the eye can distin-
guish them, but if they're all from the same entity, the brain doesn't
bother to say, "HEY!  THESES ARE DIFFERENT COLORS," because it will
confuse itself - even though the different percepted hues are caused
entirely by an uneven light spread or by slightly different inks used
in the same sheet of paper because they ran out when they were halfway
through manufacturing the sheet (surely you must buy that one.)
 
   Of course I don't have the sources handy to back that up, but trust
me - it's true.  If I spent all of my time looking back through every
piece of information I've ever read in order to correctly document my
sources, they I simply wouldn't have the time to grace this board with
my presence.  I also wouldn't be able to stand doing so, because then 
I could not afford to enter these rambling, extremely confused states
such as the one I am in now.  ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: God & Stuff    
Date & Time: 02/02/90 00:55:10
Message Number  1654

>Karsten's pretty nice in general... but a /god/ ???
     
    He was just appointed quasigod status by the Committee That Oversees
Gods, Demigods, Angels, Demons, and Chocolate (C.T.O.G.D.A.D.C.) for
his work reforming New College students.
               Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: OAG            
Date & Time: 02/02/90 00:57:42
Message Number  1655

Dear Ken,
   You said a mutual friend spent $1000 on Compuserve. How many
airline tickets did he buy, was my response.
             Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 02/02/90 01:06:32
Message Number  1656

   The third one is the easiest to find a solution for: there's 
always the beach.
   The second is easy to fix, as well... tell your parents you're
going off to see a good friend. (Just don't tell them who.)
   The first is, of course, a problem.
                  Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: sick           
Date & Time: 02/02/90 01:08:16
Message Number  1657

You're not supposed to get drunk off of the medicine? Sheesh... what's
it good for, then? It even tastes lousy...
                Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: All In Favor Of
Date & Time: 02/02/90 01:10:33
Message Number  1658

Sure. I. Which college?
           Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SAURON              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 02/02/90 01:15:29
Message Number  1659

Thanks, Sauron. I stick by my guns. Having gone from the most conser-
vative high school in Florida to the most liberal college in the
nation has caused me a lot of confusion, but my political ideas are
finally solidifying.
                Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SAURON              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 02/02/90 01:17:41
Message Number  1660

Dear Sauron,
   Silly law, isn't it? And I'll wager that there's not ONE law on
the books prohibiting unicornocide. Or applecider.
               Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: No Problem!    
Date & Time: 02/02/90 01:55:22
Message Number  1662

Thanx....much obliged!
            Black Magic
===========

From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Dolphins & Tuna
Date & Time: 02/02/90 02:02:12
Message Number  1663

See, we do agree....my letter is in the mail!
            Black Magic
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Airline Tics   
Date & Time: 02/02/90 13:26:26
Message Number  1664

None.  JUst sopent hours online chatting with people...
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: College        
Date & Time: 02/02/90 13:27:06
Message Number  1665

Beats me...whichever will accept me!  :)
===========

From: ETC...              
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: Airline Tics   
Date & Time: 02/02/90 15:34:16
Message Number  1666

HoUrS? HoW AbOuT WeEkS!
  
             etc...
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: Bionic VGA eyes
Date & Time: 02/02/90 15:59:46
Message Number  1668

To the best of my knowledge, your earlier response is correct, but it
overlooks the fact that we evaluate a picture both conciously and
unconciously. A 16 million color (Sun Graphics Terminal) will "seem" to
be  more realistic than an 8 million color version on the same screen.
You may not be able to distinguish 2 shades when they are put side by
side, but by using the incredible variety available to reproduce shading
and textures, a picture will give an impression of realism.
 
                        - Corwyn
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 02/02/90 16:21:50
Message Number  1669

Ahem, at the furry party, I had to draw a map to get to Franklins.  
But at RufusCon, Bart drew the map and he placed Turtle's place about
3 miles North of the airport on 41.
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: College        
Date & Time: 02/02/90 19:02:07
Message Number  1670

Dear Ken,
   well... best of luck. And keep in touch!
               Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 02/02/90 19:03:20
Message Number  1671

Dear Rufus,
   Details. Details. Details. Maybe that was another furry party he
was planning to sneak off to when no one was looking.
              Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ETC...              
Subject: Airline Tics   
Date & Time: 02/02/90 20:12:09
Message Number  1673

YoU kNoW, yOuR hAnDlE iS tHe SaMe As ThE nAmE oF a WeIrD cOmIc BoOk
LiNe By PiRhAnA pReSs...aLtHoUgH I bEt yOu DoN't CaRe.
ThErE's SoMeThInG vAgUeLy DiStUrBiNg AbOuT tHe WaY yOu EnTeR mEsSaGeS,
bUt I cAn'T qUiTe PuT mY fInGeR oN wHaT iT iS...
                   --A vAgUeLy DiStUrBeD TuRtLe
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 02/02/90 22:37:58
Message Number  1675

No, Bart just made a very nice, very wrong map.  BUT, he was gone for
some time in the middle of the party.
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: God & Stuff    
Date & Time: 02/02/90 23:04:31
Message Number  1676

Reforming them into what?  And what was wrong with their original form?
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: BLACK MAGIC         
Subject: Dolphins & Tuna
Date & Time: 02/02/90 23:06:27
Message Number  1677

If you would like the addresses of the presidents and CEO's of other
corporations which are also responsible for the slaughter of the 
dolphin species let me know.
                              The Yngling
===========

From: YNGLING             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Airline Tics   
Date & Time: 02/02/90 23:10:58
Message Number  1678

iF yOU KeEp HArRaSsInG neW UsERs ABoUt tHeiR tyPiNg SKiLls THeY woNt 
cALl BAcK.
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Well,,,        
Date & Time: 02/02/90 23:16:31
Message Number  1679

it isn'T like I'm leaving in the next few days or anything...It'll 
still be eerr....atleast 2 years!  hehehehe  (In world-famous Turtle
voice)  :)
===========

From: NERISSA             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: to say hello   
Date & Time: 02/03/90 01:14:23
Message Number  1680

just typing hello again its beenawile
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: NERISSA             
Subject: to say hello   
Date & Time: 02/03/90 04:53:09
Message Number  1681

Hello to you, as well! What's up?
===========

From: ETC...              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: MeSsAgEs       
Date & Time: 02/03/90 10:41:50
Message Number  1682

YeAh IvE BeEn NoTiCiNg ThAt ToO...
 WeLl WhEn YoU FiGuRe It OuT PlEaSe LeT Me KnOw!
 
         Etc...
===========

From: ETC...              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: tYpInG SkIlLs  
Date & Time: 02/03/90 10:44:23
Message Number  1683

WeLl, My TyPiNg IsNt ThE PrBlEm, ItS ThE PeRmAnEnT BrAiN DaMaGe CaUsEd 
By CoUcH PoTaToIsMoSiS...
YoU SeE, It FiRsT AtTaCkS OnEs AbIlItY To DiStInGuIsH BeTwEeN CaPs AnD 
LoWeR-CaSe LeTtErS...
 
           etc...
===========

From: CYCLE               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: CP/M           
Date & Time: 02/03/90 11:39:26
Message Number  1684

I'm trying to resurect an old HP-125 CP/M machine.  So far little luck
or support as to where to find help (other than the direction the sysop
of this board has given me).  I was hoping someone out there would know
something about the ancient operating system and would offer some help.
It's like trying to keep a dinosaur alive.  Right now, it's eating me 
out of house and home.  I just need to find some way to tame it.  Like
how to get binary files into and out of it's stubborn ports.  HELP!
===========

From: SAURON              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: VGA            
Date & Time: 02/03/90 19:05:36
Message Number  1685

  Fancy that. This may account for the fact that I've always been
content with blue...whatever the hue.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Simulated crime
Date & Time: 02/03/90 19:07:45
Message Number  1686

  I think he means STOOLKEEPER. Believe me, you don' want THAT job.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 02/03/90 19:09:02
Message Number  1687

  The hell with it. Until all concerned parties can at least agree on
when a being becomes sentientwe're all talking at right angles.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 02/03/90 19:12:05
Message Number  1688

  Oh, yeah...there's really a relationship between turning a color 
control down, and painting by number.
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From: SAURON              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: priorities     
Date & Time: 02/03/90 19:14:18
Message Number  1689

   It's amazing. The murder of dolphins stimulates you into angry
letters to corporations, but the murder of children stimulates 
sarcastic posts.
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From: NIGHT RIDER         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: TYPING         
Date & Time: 02/03/90 20:52:32
Message Number  1690

Hi All Whats Happening  Just thought I would break in and see what was 
up besides the fact some one has a problem with thier shift key or 
something like that. ( ha ha ha snicker ha)
LATER  NIGHT RIDER
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From: BEATLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Simulated crime
Date & Time: 02/03/90 23:12:17
Message Number  1691

 > The answer to all queastions: money.
 
  but if the crime is simulated, isn't the money too??
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From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: California     
Date & Time: 02/03/90 23:16:27
Message Number  1692

  You mean to say that you don't have a valid reason to drive to
California?? I have plenty. I also have a reason to stop over in 
Oklahoma City, but that's kinda outta the way.
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From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: California     
Date & Time: 02/03/90 23:18:48
Message Number  1693

  Getting the money would be no problem? That would be harder for me 
than the parents part... Hey, but you're about to move out on your own 
and come and go as you please, aren't you??
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From: BEATLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 02/03/90 23:21:48
Message Number  1694

  Turning the color knob won't fix it!! 
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From: BEATLE              
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: Who Me?        
Date & Time: 02/03/90 23:23:02
Message Number  1695

  Shut the heck up!!!!
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From: BEATLE              
To: ETC...              
Subject: tYpInG SkIlLs  
Date & Time: 02/03/90 23:27:49
Message Number  1696

iTs NoT a CaSe Of DaIn BrAmAgE, yOu HiT tHe ShIfT yOuRsElF. aNyWaY, i Am
PrObAbLy ThE bEsT eXaMpLe Of A cOuCh PoTaTo YoU cAn FiNd...
 
 But I usually type like this! I don't like that above and I don't think
we like it either. I don't mean to yell. Everyone likes to have fun, but
I can't read the screwed-up goop easily (much less type it)....
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From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: MEMBERS??????? 
Date & Time: 02/04/90 00:43:54
Message Number  1697

BEEN ON YOUR BBS TWICE AND HOPE YOU HAVE MORE TO OFFER THEN THE TWO FILE
AREAS THAT I HAVE ACCESS TO. IF THERE IS A WAY TO GET A HIGHER SECURITY 
LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR ME...O.K.?
I LIKE THE NAME, HOPE YOU LIVE UP TO IT!!!!
   WELL, GOT TO BEAM UP 'FOR THE OL' LADY TAKES THE CHAIN SAW
    TO POOR OF 'PUTER HERE.  SEEEEEEE YA'......SNAKEBYTE
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From: DONTHEN             
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: MEMBERS??????? 
Date & Time: 02/04/90 01:10:11
Message Number  1698

Of course there is more here than two file areas.  There are ten
conference areas, with hundreds and hundreds of messages in them, most
of them vastly more interesting than this one.
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From: TURTLE              
To: ETC...              
Subject: MeSsAgEs       
Date & Time: 02/04/90 01:22:30
Message Number  1699

I'vE GoT iT! I'Ve fIgUrED iT oUt! It'S tHe fReqUeNt UsE oF eXclAmAtIoN
pOiNtS! ThAt'S It!! It mAkES yOu SoUnD LIkE YoU'Re ShOUtinG AlL tHe
TiMe. It's KiNd oF SubTlE, BuT If YoU pAy CloSE AtTenTiON YoU cAn
NoTIcE...
                    --A SuBtLe TuRtLe
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From: TURTLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: abortions...   
Date & Time: 02/04/90 01:27:35
Message Number  1700

Donthen recently pointed out that this entire conversation thread is
the equivalent of placing Jerry Falwell and Madeline Murray O'Hare
in the same room together...it generates lots of verbiage, but not
a lot of persuasion. Still, it is kind of interesting to watch.
 
On the topic of sentience: I'd say it's probably pretty obvious that a
zygote is not sentient by any stretch of the imagination. On the other
hand, it's also pretty clear that a 8 1/2-month fetus /is/. At what
point does sentience magically appear? Good question. I'd say on
the outset not before the central nervous system starts forming, and
possibly not for quite some time after that. Before that point, it's
hard to talk about "homicide" when you're discussing abortion; I still
maintain that destruction of an undifferentiated--and non-sentient--
group of cells does not qualify as murder any more than extracting
a tooth is murder.
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From: TURTLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: priorities     
Date & Time: 02/04/90 01:36:39
Message Number  1701

Dolphins are better than people.
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From: TURTLE              
To: NIGHT RIDER         
Subject: Stuff          
Date & Time: 02/04/90 01:37:10
Message Number  1702

Good evening, and welcome aboard! I like to see new users who are
willing to dive right in and POST (a subtle hint to all you lurkers--
I know you're out there!--is implied here). As for what's up, well, I
am, which is kind of foolish considering I need to be up (again) in
not too many hours and I'm running on almost no sleep as it is. Such
is life, mine at least. Talk to you later...
                   --A noctournal Turtle
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From: TURTLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: aLTER rEALITY  
Date & Time: 02/04/90 01:41:09
Message Number  1703

Why, yes, as a matter of fact, this board /does/ have more to offer
than two files areas. It has over 1700 messages, to start with. As
I'm sure you've probably noticed, there are no games here. There are
almost no files here (it was with reluctance that I put up the
two areas that are here, in fact). That's because it's a /computer
bulletin board/. People call it and post MESSAGES. But wait, it
gets better! They also /read/ messages. Pretty cool, huh? That way, you
see, people can have CONVERSATIONS! And people can exchange messages,
too! It's kind of like...well, it's kind of like a BULLETIN BOARD!
But hey, if I ever decide to stop running a bulletin board and start
running a remote access games host or a file depo, why, I'll be sure to
let you know.
                --A BBS sysop Turtle
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: YARF!          
Date & Time: 02/04/90 01:59:09
Message Number  1704

I'm still waiting for the box of YARF's... it seems that Lance caught
himself the Flu and wasn't in the mood to go to the post office, but
that's gone now, so by the end of next week, I /should/ have your (and
my, and everybody's) YARF.  Arf.
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: AHEM!          
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:02:11
Message Number  1705

That's passed already, yeah, and it went off pretty well (19 guests).
We'll probably be having a fairly large FurryParty in Orlando next, in
March at the whatever-Con there/then.  Details will follow in posts
here and at The Wyvern's Den.  Juan Alfonso WILL be there, as will
probably Ken "Mitch" Mitchrooney and Skudder Kidwell.
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Disney Releases
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:06:05
Message Number  1706

I just bought the soundtrack to MERMAID.  I really got a kick out of
most of the songs, and I did like the plot...
 
By the way, since the government reposessed my terminals, I'm not really
calling this board; see, this is just a figment of your imagination...
either that or I'm calling from Rufus's Fruit //e.  I'm fairly sure I'll
be calling the Den (and maybe even glancing at the other bases here)
tomorrow (later today?) from the Turtle's pad or The Den Itself or...
whatever.  I'm really tired....
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: The Furry Tape 
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:12:37
Message Number  1707

"Dude!"  (Arf.)  I'm in Sota right now, but I probably won't see you
this time.  Anyway, I'd like to at least see the RufusCON & Furry
Party At Turtle's tapes one of these days... hmm...
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: A Furry Tape   
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:14:42
Message Number  1708

We should all get together and prepare a half-hour trestise on Furrydom
with Tyler as the film dude (I'll do audio and some general what-is-a-
furry jabber with Watts and them).
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:16:30
Message Number  1709

> SP FOREVER!  LP & SLP SUCK EGGS!!!!!
 
Amen, guy.  Actually, SVHS & ED BETA & SuperBETA FOREVER!  Regular VHS
SUCKS!!!!!!!  (Tell that to anyone who thinks VHS is better than Beta...
or IBM is better than... well, anything. -grin-  Ahem.)  Uhm... yeah.
Whatever.  UMATIC is kinda neat...
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: Documentary    
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:19:02
Message Number  1710

VHS HiFi Rules!  Linear audio bites rocks!  Helical scan forever!
 
That reminds me.  Turtle told me that at the last FurryParty there
were to be a mass of initiates, so I prepared a short presentation
on Furries for those of us of the Furrie persuasion, so as you all
could, well, grow fur (?).  Yeah.  I shouldn't even try to type at
this hour.  Damn, justification!  Cool...
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From: RUFUS               
To: BEATLE              
Subject: California     
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:33:46
Message Number  1711

O.K.  Stop it all, NOW!!  At the exact moment I posted that message, I
really didn't have valid reason to go to California.
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From: RUFUS               
To: BEATLE              
Subject: California     
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:34:45
Message Number  1712

Well, since the convention is in August, I could have the money.  Since
I'm only 16, I can't move out for about 1 year, 5 months, and 7 days.
Of course, they probaly will be helping for college, so I won't be 
moving out any time soon.
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From: PSYCHE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Bionic VGA eyes
Date & Time: 02/04/90 02:58:13
Message Number  1713

   For human purposes, 8 million colors (or shades thereof) is overkill.
We can't distinguish that many, and it makes the monitor a whole hell of
a lot more expensive.  I think 4096 is just fine - no more than a
million at the most.
   Give me 16 million pixels over 16 million colors any day.
.s
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From: KEN OBER            
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: tape           
Date & Time: 02/04/90 15:23:07
Message Number  1715

I can mail you a copy if you desire....
 
Cosmic Thing......
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From: KEN OBER            
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 02/04/90 15:24:01
Message Number  1716

Actually, Hi-8 Is the best....  :)
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: Break Objects? 
Date & Time: 02/04/90 16:47:46
Message Number  1718

What?  Who are you talking to?  What are you talkig about?
 
Pass me that little reed pill, please....
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: ROCKY               
Subject: Graphi-Gen     
Date & Time: 02/04/90 16:50:47
Message Number  1719

I've seen those.  They're kinda nifty...
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: VulCon         
Date & Time: 02/04/90 16:52:34
Message Number  1720

Ew... (I've been to a couple of those)  To quote Watts, "they're
expensive and bad," andd from Turtle, "but other than that, at least
they're boring."
 
The MSTF application, at 32 pages, was a TAD long.  Donchya think?
<grin>
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 02/04/90 17:08:31
Message Number  1721

> So watch then with the color control turned all the way down.
 
Uhm... that doesn't help the fact that now the contrast is all screwed,
and... well, lotsa nifty side eeffects.
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: The Furry Tape 
Date & Time: 02/04/90 17:13:47
Message Number  1722

I want one.
 
Of course, getting it won't be easy.  If'n you bring it to the next
FurryParty (Orlando in March) I'd like to get a copy on a decent tape
(can you write HiFi VHS?).
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: eerr...        
Date & Time: 02/04/90 17:16:21
Message Number  1723

I'm sure Bart would seriously cconsider it.  Gee, maybe Bart will be
able to get a copy of if printed out.  Gee... maybe...
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Bionic VGA eyes
Date & Time: 02/04/90 17:22:13
Message Number  1724

1) You probably can't distinguish more than 4 million hues anyway, so
   the 16 megacolor display will look no different than the 8 megacolor
   display (in most cases, you can be a ddweeb about it, tho)
2) Does that display even have 8 million pixels?  You can only display
   a number of colors equal to or less than the number of display points
   available, n'est pas?
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: tape           
Date & Time: 02/04/90 17:28:36
Message Number  1725

USPS, eh?  Dude... but that'll cost you $2.40 plus the cost of the
tape itself.  Maybe I should just get you a tape one of these days
(probably through Donthen, Turtle, Rufus, or Chip) and get it back
at somee unspecified time (like, oh, maybe when your district dude
or myself drops off your MSTF app).
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From: TURTLE              
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 02/04/90 18:27:05
Message Number  1726

Well, goshm, I have a copy of Brazil and The Wall on one videotape...in
SLP mode...second generation...bleah!
                         --A "no-sync" Turtle
You, too, can help prevent abuse of ellipses in our time...
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From: TURTLE              
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: tape           
Date & Time: 02/04/90 18:31:44
Message Number  1727

>...like, oh, maybe when your district dude or myself drops off your
>MSTF app...
 
As local MSTF district dude, I think that should be the responsibility
of the sponsor dude...
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From: RAVEN               
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: YARF!          
Date & Time: 02/04/90 23:08:56
Message Number  1730

Haven't we heard something of the sort already?  Just checking.  Hmm.
Chip was right, this tail DOES tast better with a little salt. . . 
     -r-
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: sponsor dude   
Date & Time: 02/04/90 23:16:50
Message Number  1731

Dude!
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From: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
To: RAVEN               
Subject: YARF!          
Date & Time: 02/04/90 23:17:57
Message Number  1732

I don't see the connection.  <a confused fox>
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From: DONTHEN             
To: ALL                 
Subject: YARF!          
Date & Time: 02/05/90 11:57:10
Message Number  1734

   According to the person who was supposed to send the YARF copies to
Bart Fox (this person being Lance Rund), the responsibility for mailing
the suckers out has been shifted over to Jeff Ferris, the publisher of
YARF, who will supposedly be sending a "bundle" of both YARF #0 (the
preview issue) and #1, which has already been printed.
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From: KEN OBER            
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: Sorry...       
Date & Time: 02/05/90 12:52:15
Message Number  1735

I don't even have a stereo VCR!  :( 
 
Feel like showing up at Pelican Pete's down in Engleweed in about 2
weeks?  I'm planning a BBS get together around that time...
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From: YNGLING             
To: SAURON              
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 02/05/90 15:27:20
Message Number  1737

If you cannot understand the reasons why a classic like..oh..Citizen
Kane is diminished by altering even the most subtle effects of shadow
and light then you probably have trouble recognizing sarcasm when you
read it.
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From: YNGLING             
To: SAURON              
Subject: priorities     
Date & Time: 02/05/90 15:30:50
Message Number  1738

Excuse me?  Let me tell you something pal, I will give you $1000 for a
hard copy of ANY posts originating from MY computer that were in any way
sarcastic AND dealt with the subject of abortion.
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From: ETC...              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: MeSsAgEs       
Date & Time: 02/05/90 16:25:33
Message Number  1739

Ok LEt'S TaKe A vOte WhO LiKeS/PrEfeRS My TyPiNg ThIS WaY??!?!!?
THis Is A mEaNinGLeSs MeSsAge. It CoUld Be SaYiNg SoMeThInG But It Is 
NoT. iT CoUlD bE CoOl aNd InTeReStInG, BuT iT Is NoT.
ThIs Is JuSt YaRg!
ThIs Is ThE BeSt WaY To Be KiCkEd Of A BbS, So KiDs At HoMe Do NoT 
aTeMpT ThIs At HoMe, ThIs StUnT WaS DoNe By BaIn DraInAgEd PrOfEsSiOnAlS
!..!
=oo=
(__)
 UU
           etc...
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From: TURTLE              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 02/05/90 18:01:29
Message Number  1741

>If you cannot understand why a classic like...oh...Citizen Kane is
>diminished by altering even the most subtle effects of shadow and
>light...
 
I assume, then, that you're also rabidly opposed to destroying the
integrity of such a classic work of art by, oh, say, transferring it
from 35mm film to videotape, and thus ruining subtle nuances of timing
(and destroying the resolution of the original film) by presenting it
in a media which is presented at 30 frames per second instead of 24
frames per second...or is it all right as long as the person watching
the videotape has had the brightness and contrast controls on his 
television checked, set, and approved by an official member of the
Organization To Enforce Subtle Nuances of Shadow and Light in Early
Film Classics...?? Heaven forfend that some ignorant Philistine
should watch it in black and white and destroy the effect by turning his
contrast down too far!
 
By the way, as long as /you're/ watching a black and white copy of the
film, why all the fuss over what your next-door neighbor might be
watching? Just a question.
                              --A totally disinterested Turtle
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From: TURTLE              
To: ETC...              
Subject: MeSsAgEs       
Date & Time: 02/05/90 18:08:24
Message Number  1742

Myself, I Am Generally Fascinated By Original And Creative Uses For
The Shift Keys, Especially On Bulletin Board Posts, But Evidently
My Respect For Creativity Is Not Shared By All The Users Here...Oh
Well. yOU kNOW, iT oCCURS tO mE tHAT tHIS pOST aLSO iSN'T sAYING
vERY mUCH. bUT aT lEAST iT dOESN'T mENTION aARDVARKS, jELLY dONUTS,
sPACE aLIENS, oR dAN qUAYLE aNYWHERE iN iT.
                         --a w    d Turtle
                              a  e
                               rp
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: MeSsAgEs       
Date & Time: 02/05/90 18:19:42
Message Number  1744

And what's wrong with aardvarks!!
Hummphhhh...
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From: YNGLING             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 02/06/90 16:33:24
Message Number  1745

As an artist I am offended by the alteration - in any way - of the
vision of another.  I work mostly in pen and ink (usually a black and
white medium) and would hate to think that sometime in the future some
asshole might come along and take his Crayolas and alter my creation
to "improve" its asthetic value (especially if he were to limit himself
to three or four colors!!!).  I should think you would be able to
understand that...but maybe not.
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From: TURTLE              
To: YNGLING             
Subject: Colorization   
Date & Time: 02/06/90 17:03:03
Message Number  1746

>...I would hate to think that sometime in the future some asshole
>might come along and take his Crayolas and alter my creation...
 
We're not talking alteration of an original work of art here; the
black and white 35mm copies of Citizen Kane are not being attacked by
armies of people with paintbrushes. To extend your analogy a little,
would you start screaming if some asshole took a photocopy of your
work and started filling /that/ in with crayons? The piece as you
created it is still untouched.
 
I'm not especially impressed by colorization of old movies, but I'm not
going to start flaming about it either; if I want to see the original
version of the movie, I can. No problem. So call me a Philistine.
                     --A "don't sweat the trivial" Turtle
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From: BEATLE              
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: Documentary    
Date & Time: 02/06/90 19:43:37
Message Number  1748

> VHS Hi-Fi rules!
 
 and linear sucks eggs,,, HMMMM,,, I have to agree. I'm just so dang 
upset that it's all I have! ARGH!
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From: BEATLE              
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: VulCon         
Date & Time: 02/06/90 19:45:45
Message Number  1749

  You're telling me that I'm missing something BETTER!?!?!?!? I happened
to ENJOY my first (and last, so far) Vulkon Convention. I guess it all 
depends on 1) if you like Star Trek 2) how much you like Star Trek and 
3) If you've been to something better... 
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From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: 2nd Generation 
Date & Time: 02/06/90 19:49:19
Message Number  1750

  You know, for less than $30, you can replace that copy of "The Wall" 
and get Hi-Fi stereo to boot.
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