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002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY      07/29/92 05:58  Msg:7400 Call:41808 Lines:8
 20 The Six Steps of Product Development
 21 1. Unbound Enthusiasm
 22 2. Total Disillusionment
 23 3. Panic
 24 4. Search for Guilty Party
 25 5. Punishment of the Innocent
 26 6. Promotion of the Uninvolved
 27 *****************************************************************
003=Usr:4 Milchar           07/29/92 09:01  Msg:7401 Call:41809 Lines:1
 28 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchlurk +++++++++++ 07/29 +++++++++++
004=Usr:219 Friar Mossback    07/29/92 11:56  Msg:7402 Call:41812 Lines:5
 29 Hey, Milchar, aren't you supposed to crow about being on the top?  You have 
 30 been around long enough to know the rules.
 31 :)
 32 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][]   Friar    [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
 33  
005=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  07/30/92 02:32  Msg:7405 Call:41820 Lines:8
 34 &*&*&*&*'s
 35 Another day, another sum of money.  Sometimes you gotta wonder what its all
 36 for.  Setting goals, and trying to live up to your own expectations.   Its
 37 strange, but its the only game in town.  And you might as well be a winner.
 38  
 39 An Astral Dreamer
 40 &*&*&*&*'s (Stringing words together.  Each one a wordsmiths toy.)
 41  
006=Usr:4 Milchar           07/30/92 10:00  Msg:7408 Call:41826 Lines:3
 42 +++++++++ Boy, do I need a faster link.  This is worse than 300 bps.)
 43 A belated AT THE TOP (En la cima)!  Frankly, I didn't notice.
 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar +++++++++++++ 7/30/92 ++++++++
007=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  07/31/92 02:41  Msg:7409 Call:41838 Lines:9
 45 &*&*&*&*'s
 46 Its to bad that PSU and rain-net are more or less in the same city, yet
 47 seperated by a distance that comes close to circling the planet when 
 48 your on the alternet.  Thats something that will no doubt change in the 
 49 future.  Of course, rain-net only has a 64kbit connect, and its heavily used.
 50  
 51 An Astral Dreamer
 52 &*&*&*&*'s (Its a journey in the mind, a quest, another time)
 53  
008=Usr:31 The Doctor        07/31/92 22:06  Msg:7414 Call:41854 Lines:1
 54 ????????? DocLurk - What the hell am I doing up at this hour???
009=Usr:31 The Doctor        08/01/92 19:43  Msg:7418 Call:41862 Lines:1
 55 ???????? DocLurk
010=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/04/92 07:55  Msg:7420 Call:41881 Lines:6
 56 &*&*&*&*'s
 57 Just learking.
 58  
 59 An Astral Dreamer
 60 &*&*&*&*'s
 61  
011=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/05/92 02:40  Msg:7421 Call:41887 Lines:10
 62 &*&*&*&*'s
 63 Well, this last weekend I got to go to Virginia.  Much fun.  Had to do work
 64 on Monday, but I got to wander around colonial williamsburgh all of sunday.
 65 Virginia really looks like a nice place to vacation.  They have tons of
 66 history.  Scenic beuty, and even a theme park.  You could easily spend a week
 67 there and not get bored.
 68  
 69 An Astral Dreamer
 70 &*&*&*&*'s  (Carfull now, we've gone to far)
 71  
012=Usr:322 Stray Cat         08/05/92 12:44  Msg:7422 Call:41893 Lines:6
 72  
 73 .... Vacationing in Vietnam and Thailand, huh?  Interesting concept that
 74 sounds more like an import business, in my humble opinion.  And all this
 75 time we've all been convinced the whole problem in Old Town was 13-YO
 76 Chicano(e)s.
 77  
013=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/05/92 16:32  Msg:7423 Call:41898 Lines:1
 78  
014=Usr:549 alan kennedy      08/05/92 19:19  Msg:7424 Call:41901 Lines:9
 79 ||||||||||||||||||||
 80 "Chicano(e)s"
 81 uh-oh!  It must be that rare (quite) pre-electoral anxiety called Quayleitis
 82  
 83 I know, I know, I'm really sorry.  It is way past my bedtime.
 84 Hibernation mode on.
 85  
 86 Grizzly
 87 ||||||||||||||||||||
015=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/07/92 02:41  Msg:7425 Call:41919 Lines:1
 88  
016=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/08/92 03:10  Msg:7426 Call:41926 Lines:7
 89 &*&*&*&*'s
 90 Life is like the little bits of lint that get caught in your belly 
 91 button.  Somehow, there always seems to be more.
 92  
 93 An Astral Dreamer
 94 &*&*&*&*'s (Where is that pillow anyway?)
 95  
017=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/10/92 08:18  Msg:7434 Call:41944 Lines:8
 96 &*&*&*&*'s
 97 Good news, passed the drivers test.  I'm on the road.  Beware. :-)
 98 Bad news.  My old boss died yesterday.  Stray cat can rest easy now, the
 99 'evil'  walt is no more.  Enough said I think. 
100  
101 An Astral Dreamer
102 &*&*&*&*'s (Are you to involved with yourself to be involved with others?)
103  
018=Usr:742 Anarchist Cook    08/11/92 05:54  Msg:7437 Call:41955 Lines:5
104  
105 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
106 ** Cheap Smoke Bomb **
107 Get some epson salts.  mix 2:1 with sugar.  Light.  Leave.  hehehehe |-
108 |-)
019=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/11/92 16:23  Msg:7438 Call:41965 Lines:11
109  
110 Time is like a bubble
111 That floats on the sea
112 for the briefest time
113  
114 spelling is an illusion
115 a reason without cause
116 motivation turmoil
117 in order
118  
119  
020=Usr:31 The Doctor        08/11/92 19:26  Msg:7440 Call:41971 Lines:1
120 ??????? Lurkmode....The Doctor
021=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par  08/12/92 06:12  Msg:7441 Call:41978 Lines:15
121 *(_)%*(_)%(_($_)*^_)%*(^_)(_(%+~)$+_^*(%$+_*&+_(#+_$#+_^*+_(_@+$%(+@%(_~@%(~@+%
122 Yiiiii, AD is on the road! I'm goin to Disney Land! :-)
123 (_)%(@_(_+(#@%$+_^+@(%+_#@(%$+_@#( L'homme sans Parity (*%_)#@(%$_*%_)!($_)($%$
124  
125 PS: Hey, what is all this complaining about qiclab and the internet??? You
126 should be soooo appreciative, rather than complaining about a little 2
127 minute echo problem! It's only 22 hops from pearl to qiclab, and a bunch
128 of those are in llnl's own net. It looks like llnl does not connect to
129 barnet, even though it is local - Sun does and it cuts the hopcount down
130 by half...
131  
132 Just be glad the phone call is free! Sheesh.
133  
134 %*()_#*%(_)(*_)!@$(*_)*_)$^$#*^ L'homme sans Parity (again) *%_)*%_)@#%*(_)@%*
135  
022=Usr:322 Stray Cat         08/12/92 09:59  Msg:7442 Call:41980 Lines:14
136  
137 I probably owe an apology to any/everybody for some of the (truly offensive)
138 stuff I've posted on here at times.  I don't even (re)read most of it myself,
139 which  IS the reason I, myself, don't read BackWater anymore and the reason
140 I don't respond to what anybody else has to say.  I AM truly shocked by the
141 death of Walter Hathaway and I've been "told" there is a comment on here that
142 I'm probably happy now that Evil Walt is gone.  If I'da known Walt had been
143 sick for the last year I might have limited my comments more to McElroy and
144 those henchmen more closely aligned to the police-state disciplinary practices
145 of the "executive branch" of the district.  From the photo in the paper, I'm
146 amazed I'd never recognized how much Walt looked like Mark Alport, whose name
147 I've been trying to remember for the last month and it didn't hit me until I
148 saw the picture.  
149  
023=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/13/92 04:14  Msg:7443 Call:41992 Lines:24
150 &*&*&*&*'s
151 Stray cat, you won't bother to read this of course, but I must respond anyway.
152 It was I who made the comment about Walt.  I must point out to you that it
153 is silly to say that you would have been more moderate in your criticism if
154 you had known he had been sick.  Perhaps you could have attributed some of
155 his actions to his sickness, but that is all.  
156  
157 It seems to me that there is almost always a reason for somebody doing 
158 something 'stupid' and it is rare that they do it meerly out of stupidity.
159  
160 Walt did some great things during his life.  He did some not so great things,
161 but who hasn't?  He helped generate a tremendose positive legacy.  You may
162 not believe that, but I do.  And only sickness over the last few years, and
163 the states budgetary problems have been able to dim that achievment.  But 
164 there are others who will carry on the good work.  And perhaps some day,
165 the hard work and good will will actually see the light of day again.
166  
167 If that day comes, I'll know that the ignorent and petty backstabers have
168 finally been overcome.  Heres to a brighter future.  One we will BUILD and
169 no destroy.
170  
171 An Astral Dreamer
172 &*&*&*&* (Catch me if you can)
173  
024=Usr:744 Anarchist Cook    08/13/92 14:30  Msg:7444 Call:42001 Lines:16
174 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
175 If the world was round, and you set a marble down, it would roll off.
176 Proclaim the truth!! The world is flat!!
177  
178 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
179 Besides, if the world really  _was_  round, they could never make a world
180 map.  It would have to be round.
181  
182 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
183 What about the globe, you say?  Have you ever BEEN to Antarctica? How do you
184 know it's not just a conspiracy by the mapmakers and the population control 
185 people to make people go to Antarctica and fall off into space??? HUH?????
186  
187  
188 HAVE YOU SEEN A PSYCOLOGIST LATLEY???!!??
189  
025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/14/92 03:36  Msg:7446 Call:42006 Lines:5
190  
191 lurk
192  
193 murk
194  
026=Usr:660 Rick Young        08/16/92 10:43  Msg:7447 Call:42018 Lines:31
195 <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*>
196 Been an eon or two since I was here!  Just dropping in to say Mainstreet BBS is
197 back up and under new management.  We are at 4 lines and should soon be moving 
198 up to 8 or 9.  Give us a call at 735-xxxx for a free 10 day trial access. Rates
199 are VERY low; 1 month $7, 3 months $18, longer terms available but I cant 
200 remember them just now!  Sysop is Little Sheba, co-sysops are Talos Valheru
201 (That's me! :-), Fanci Dancer and Born Free.  See ya there!
202  
203                                                         Talos Valheru
204              Real life could Never measure up to my         Ruler of the
205                          imagination!                       Eagles' Reaches
206 <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*>
207@                     Trial by Strang
208@          Bl ufr t the Hands
209@                  Of Fate
210@          
211@             (story the first)
212@   ildcded that  he shoudral e ut of bed.  He 
213@dd' elywant to, but it seemed that it would be the 
214@ral rper thing to do, considering his job and all.  He 
215@gtdadmd i a otebathroom 
216@t aeasower.  Sadly, his floormat had different plans 
217@frtemring (it was tired of being nearly drowned every 
218@mrig,ad seted itself in an appropriate manner to 
219@crettestuation.  
220@  tfrt ill didn't realize that anything was amiss, 
221@btepdit h shoe n ean to adjust the 
222@wtr e thought he could hear a soft shuffling noise as of 
223@tepdigof half a dozen rubber soled sneakers.  He 
224@atiued this to the raw oysters a friend had talked him 
225@it rigthe night before, and continued wit i hwr 
027=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/18/92 07:50  Msg:7450 Call:42052 Lines:1
226  
028=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/19/92 06:50  Msg:7451 Call:42068 Lines:39
227  
228 A carbon copy of the note you wrote
229 Sits upon your desk
230 Its very old
231  
232 The paper yellow
233 Just like the sun
234 On a day that is to cold
235  
236 Your age is simple
237 Your mind intact
238 Beyond the window sill
239  
240 So in your home
241 You play the game
242 And ask your questions still
243  
244 What might have been
245 What you gave up
246 The person you betrayed
247  
248 When you gave up
249 And went away
250 When you should have stayed
251  
252 Don't ask me friend
253 I do no know
254 Its never been my fight
255  
256 And in the end
257 Its not my job
258 to tell you what is right
259  
260 You cannot fly
261 without some thought
262  
263 Or the landing
264 will be hard fought
265  
029=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/20/92 08:09  Msg:7453 Call:42076 Lines:1
266  
030=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/20/92 13:28  Msg:7454 Call:42078 Lines:18
267 They say that money is the solution for our worldly cares
268 Put it all inside their pockets, It will be safe there
269  
270 Some men scream for power, some men scream for war
271 Sometimes its like they've run aground, on an unknown shore
272  
273 It breeds in them a certain feeling, a craving to be fed
274 By all the people on this planet, and the things for which they bled
275  
276 An agent for teir own deciet, it strikes out in the night
277 And makes them think that all the answers, are hidden in the fight
278  
279 But in some dreams the feel the lie, and see the image cold
280 Of al the lives they have affected, and all the lies they've told
281  
282 Its like a kind of retribution, that strikes out from the land
283 And shows them up for what they are, just dablers in sand
284  
031=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/21/92 08:38  Msg:7455 Call:42087 Lines:1
285  
032=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/23/92 20:37  Msg:7456 Call:42108 Lines:4
286  
287 Another space in time.  Tilting still sublime
288 Wonder what it means, when all the words don't ryme
289  
033=Usr:549 alan kennedy      08/25/92 01:03  Msg:7458 Call:42120 Lines:11
290 ||||||||||||||||||||||
291  
292 Well since we are kinda on the subject of BBS announcements.
293                          The Grizzly's Den BBS
294                          Out of Hibernation
295                          Adult and Teen Related Msg Bases
296                          Files Access
297                          Tradewars 2002, BRAND new universe
298                          300,1200,2400
299                          Fido Echo on its way.
300                          (503)235-xxxx
034=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/27/92 07:37  Msg:7461 Call:42138 Lines:8
301 &*&*&*&*'s
302 Just checking in.  
303  
304 Wouldn't it be strange if all the world were an orchestra pit?
305  
306 An Astral Dreamer
307 &*&*&*&*'s  (Who's playing that basoon anyways?)
308  
035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  08/30/92 21:19  Msg:7466 Call:42172 Lines:2
309 Short little squigle
310  
036=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/01/92 08:16  Msg:7467 Call:42179 Lines:2
311 The fine line.
312  
037=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/03/92 08:47  Msg:7471 Call:42205 Lines:13
313 &*&*&*&*'s
314 Wow, things have been a wee bit silent around here recently.  I'd love
315 to upload some of the stuff I've been working on recently, but I don't 
316 have the means or the time to mess with BWMS bizare flow control alas.
317  
318 On the real world front, a comment about the presidential campaign.
319 Neither can tell the truth.  Neither will follow thru.  So how do 
320 you choose?  I'm going for Clinton.  Bush may be an exception to the
321 old saying 'better the evil you know.'
322  
323 An Astral Dreamer
324 &*&*&*&*'s
325  
038=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/08/92 07:55  Msg:7474 Call:42243 Lines:3
326  
327 Just another line to be ignored.  Lame is as Lame is.
328  
039=Usr:31 The Doctor        09/08/92 19:23  Msg:7475 Call:42246 Lines:1
329 ?????????? DocLurk
040=Usr:4 Milchar           09/09/92 12:26  Msg:7476 Call:42250 Lines:1
330 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchlurk +++++++++++++++ 9/9/92 ++++++
041=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/09/92 14:06  Msg:7477 Call:42253 Lines:4
331  
332 {}
333  
334     After several years, I have aquired an Ancient Monolith of Multitasking
042=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/09/92 14:10  Msg:7478 Call:42254 Lines:6
335 (a.k.a. an Amiga 1000 with "official" 1.2 ROM modification), along with
336 a Sonic Information Transmitter (a.k.a. an Epson CX-20 aucustic modem,
337 you know, the old style that you set the handset in), which has
338 allowed me to return to Backwater at a meager 300 baud (yuck!).
339  
340   A.D., I too am voting for Clinton, by simple virtue of "does he
043=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/09/92 14:15  Msg:7479 Call:42255 Lines:6
341  - will he - shall he do the job correctly?".  Bush hasn't.  Ditto for
342 Ronnie the Retard.
343  
344     Hagbard Celine.  I think.
345  
346 {}
044=Usr:753 Jimmy Hoffa       09/13/92 15:49  Msg:7489 Call:42278 Lines:3
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045=Usr:753 Jimmy Hoffa       09/13/92 15:57  Msg:7490 Call:42278 Lines:22
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046=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par  09/14/92 15:29  Msg:7491 Call:42286 Lines:1
372 I've seen bad typists but this is ridiculous!
047=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/16/92 19:38  Msg:7492 Call:42293 Lines:3
373  
374 Could it be a code?
375  
048=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/17/92 10:22  Msg:7493 Call:42295 Lines:15
376 {
377  
378    It seems to be a poly-alphabetic cyhper.  The top row seems to indicate
379 that there are three alphabets.  Digits seem to be in the correct order.
380 That, or it is a standard cypher.  If that is the case, it should yeild
381 a standard english message on the first pass.  If it is poly-alphabetic,
382 then it would require n*3 times longer to crack - unless you have
383 good software tools that would allow you to try different patterns.
384 Even so, that would take considerable CPU time - maybe a day or two.
385  
386   What's Up?  What has happened since I have left?
387  
388   Hagbard.  Married.  Without Children.
389  
390 }
049=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/19/92 06:04  Msg:7495 Call:42309 Lines:9
391 &*&*&*&*'s
392 Ours is not to wonder why from the outside, ours is to work our way in
393 and find out.  Of course there is always the danger that we will be
394 seduced by the 'dark side'.  In that case, atleast we'de know what we 
395 were criticizing.
396  
397 An Astral Dreamer
398 &*&*&*&*'s  (Heavy rests the head that thinks)
399  
050=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/19/92 11:22  Msg:7496 Call:42311 Lines:34
400 {
401  
402    Where have all the stories gone?
403    Long time ago....
404  
405    For some reason, I have kept my original EnvironSuit story that I 
406 posted nearly two years ago.  I've worked on it a little, but it is
407 still very rough, and only takes about 5-7k of disk space.  If I have time
408 on my birthday, and there is enough disk space, I might upload it.
409 Alas, I have been sacked with the job of writing my department's manuals-
410 a tedious, time-consuming task (much like my job).  It leaves me little
411 time for improving it.
412  
413    In my hiatis, what has happened?  AD is one of the few that I 
414 recognize, but so much has changed.
415  
416   I'm planning to re-attend college, but I'm unsure about my previous
417 major in Computer Science.  That, and my mathematical skills only
418 rival a third-grader with dyslexia.  Even the most basic algebra 
419 problems seem to puzzle me; the last course I had was College Algebra
420 , along with another class in Logic.
421   I guess I'm looking for advice.  I don't have much in the way of 
422 monetary funds, but I should be able to go part-time in the day
423 (around 4-8 credit hours).  PCC supposedly is filled to the rim
424 with EVERYONE, but it's all I can afford.  Would PSU take a part-timer
425 like me?  Or any other college?  Reed seems like a great place, but
426 I'm not ready - and I might not be good material (Liberal Arts and
427 Computer Science don't mix well).  If you have any ideas, knowledge,
428 or (best of all) previous experience, please leave me a line or
429 send Mail to 498.  Thanks.
430  
431    H.C.
432  
433 }
051=Usr:753 Jimmy Hoffa       09/24/92 13:43  Msg:7498 Call:42356 Lines:22
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451 RQRGI UQNXJ'N KY IAJCP HC XHTYWK.  SCQMNZ QAPN XUGW LACT ZFNF MCKK HTYRWWL
452 NVBT CTP ZI.  SFN YUXPEK TGTS QS GCE ZZWCOBDX QWC JXR'W ZRT?  LCRB CZEED
453 ED.  EH'T HTWU WQ WIPQPON NYF FRHN JLTT YXRU.
454  
455 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
052=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/24/92 20:04  Msg:7501 Call:42361 Lines:6
456  
457 Just a word or two.  Perhaps to few.  Thats up to you.
458  
459 too
460  
461  
053=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  09/26/92 06:06  Msg:7503 Call:42367 Lines:3
462  
463 SIGH.  Paranoia runs deep.
464  
054=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine ,  09/29/92 18:50  Msg:7505 Call:42384 Lines:18
465 {
466  
467    (Sniff, Sniff) I smell a 1200 baud modem.  Willy gave it to
468 me for $20.00 - not bad, considering it has NO features.
469  
470    Thoughts?  Stories?  
471  
472    Hagbard, to return in different form.
473  
474 }
475 {
476     AD, best wishes for your license.  I flunked on my first try too.
477 I also had three (ya, count 'em, 3!) permits before I tried for mine.
478 Don't feel bad.
479  
480     So long.
481  
482 }
055=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/02/92 08:11  Msg:7506 Call:42413 Lines:19
483 &*&*&*&*'s
484 Hmm, I had two permits before I finally got my license.  Got the first one
485 when I was 16 I believe.  Expired long before I was anywhere near taking the
486 test.
487  
488 Well, its my good fortune to be getting a new Mother board for the sun-3
489 workstation I have at home.  Its a 4/110 mother board.  About 7 mips.  I'm
490 not sure what the spec mark rating is, or what the floating point is like,
491 But I'm sure its faster then my poor old 16MHz 68020/68881 combo.
492  
493 The only real problem with it is that it has no video built in.  Oh well, 
494 you can't have it all.  I think I'll ethernet it and use it for
495 its CPU.
496  
497 Thats all for now I guess.
498  
499 An Astral Dreamer
500 &*&*&*&*'s  (Finishing up the first year of his second 25 years)
501  
056=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi  10/03/92 13:42  Msg:7507 Call:42428 Lines:19
502 |
503    AD, I have the old March 1989 issue of "Sun-3, Sun-4 Hardware
504 Configuration Guide" at my disposal.  I don't think it would be of
505 much help, but if you would like it (as in you can keep it), drop
506 a line to me.  Included inside are overviews, configurations, VME
507 overviews & configurations, physical and power requirements, etc.
508 I obviously don't have a need for it (while using my "Comode model 1")
509 and it just takes up desk space.  I'll leave mail on this...
510  
511     Thesis
512 |
513  
514   P.S. - how did you come to possess a Sun Workstation?  Also, I'm
515          applying for a job as a night operator on our Data General
516          Aviion system (SVR4 based).  I'm rusty on Unix basics - can
517          you recommend a quick refresher for me?  Thanx in advance.
518  
519       Anti-Thesis
520 |
057=Usr:103 Robin Ramsey      10/05/92 22:46  Msg:7509 Call:42444 Lines:16
521 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
522  
523 God.. It's been quite some time since I last sampled the Inn. 
524 Much has changed...yet much retains the familiar feeling of days
525 gone past.
526  
527 I see an all too familiar code?? yet my tools have long been lost and only
528 ran on an apple ][. l'homme do you still reside in the city of roses?...
529  
530 voyeur.....mig....leonard...do you all still Risk?...... does the pizza place
531 still exist on Stark?
532  
533 Ahh...it is the faint whisps of smoke rising from the hearth.
534 It's good to be back.
535  
536 ::::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
058=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/07/92 05:23  Msg:7510 Call:42461 Lines:15
537 &*&*&*&*'s
538 Anti-Thesis,
539 I bought my two sun-3's from the local sun office.  Every once in awhile they
540 selloff surplus equipment at fairly decent prices.  The 4/110 MB I bought
541 mail order.  There are various places out there that have and sell used sun
542 equipment.  I can get you more info if you are interested.
543  
544 As for primers on unix...  Wish I knew of one.  A friend of mine called a
545 couple of days ago asking for the same info, and I have been unable to
546 find anything on-line.  I'm going to take a trip down to Powells 
547 technical book store today.  Perhaps I'll have some luck there. 
548  
549 An Astral Dreamer
550 &*&*&*&*'s
551  
059=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi  10/07/92 12:10  Msg:7512 Call:42466 Lines:13
552 |
553  
554   Alas, my significant other will not allow ANOTHER computer in the
555 house (sigh).  A breif debate at a nice dinner revealed that she
556 felt my aging 1000 was taking enough room up as-is.  Being a 68k fan
557 I naturally would like to have this type of system over my
558@mundane 'miga.  BTW, on 3CPU, you mentioned that you had an
559@older 3-series for sale, sans keyboard.  Would that include
560@the backplane as well?  (I might be able to talk her into it
561 mundane 'miga.
562  
563     Thesis
564 |
060=Usr:3 Ramek             10/10/92 11:36  Msg:7523 Call:42504 Lines:1
565 ========================================================================
061=Usr:3 Ramek             10/10/92 11:36  Msg:7524 Call:42504 Lines:55
566  
567 Measure 9 - Argument in favor
568  
569 According to the book of Levitcus in the Bible, oyster-eating, 
570 crossbreeding cattle, shaving a beard, wearing clothing made of 
571 mixed fibers, cursing one's parents and adultery are just as 
572 immoral as homosexuality. If the OCA's "No Special Rights" 
573 Committee wants to take one of the 3000 year old laws of ritual 
574 holiness from Levitcus and put it into the Bill of Rights in the 
575 state constitution, they should be sincere enough to put all the 
576 rest of Levitcus into the constitution as well. It's a simple 
577 matter of respect for these historic laws to treat them 
578 consistently.
579  
580 We at the Special Righteousness Committee are just as offended by 
581 oyster-eating, shaving and mixed fibers as the OCA is offended by 
582 homosexuality, and we have just as much right as the OCA does to 
583 change the state constitution to require government 
584 discrimination against people whose behavior we don't like.
585  
586 My friends, do you want the public schools teaching your children 
587 that shaving is a legitimate and equal alternative style to a 
588 normal and healthy beard? Would you want to be forced to hire an 
589 oyster-eater to direct your church choir? Adam and Eve wore fig 
590 leaves - 100% fig leaves - and this is divine proof that those 
591 disgustingly unnatural cotton/polyester blends are sinful. 
592  
593 And when the OCA was analyzing the threat to traditional family 
594 values, we don't know how they managed to overlook adultery! Why, 
595 there's a lot more adultery than homosexuality going on out 
596 there, and extrapolations from OCA statistics show that 90 
597 percent of the people who have engaged in sexual perversions are 
598 heterosexual ("straight").
599  
600 The state condones adultery by not punishing with death as 
601 required by Levitcus. It promotes oyster-eating by licensing 
602 seafood restaurants, and it allows people to take mixed fibers 
603 out of the closet and to flaunt them right out in public without 
604 being fired or evicted! The state is encouraging sin!
605  
606 If the OCA can have the special right to make their personal 
607 moral agenda into public policy, then anyone else also should be 
608 able to amend the state Bill of Rights to eliminate basic human 
609 rights for people who they don't like. 
610  
611 Let's put ALL of Levitcus into the constitution! A "yes" vote is 
612 the first step is facilitating our militant moral agenda. 
613  
614 AGREE WITH US OR BURN IN HELL!
615  
616 Special Righteous Committee
617 
618 Portland, Oregon  97207
619  
620 ===================================================================
062=Usr:322 Stray Cat         10/12/92 08:40  Msg:7526 Call:42525 Lines:13
621 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() That was quite the full moon, huh??/ ()()()
622  
623 ... the neighborhood dogs've been restless since last Thursday & the kids
624 absolutely wild.  And the CRIME, seems like we had some wyrdd ones, huh? And 
625 there was the debates with a smartass on the side.  I take back the compari-
626 son of Bill Naito with H. Ross. I just wish there were more smartasses 
627 around to help us Re-Discover America.  Not that I TRUST the guy or anything
628 'cause really good guys, I don't think, would BE billionaires.  But I think
629 people should learn to sass & talk back  & INSIST on knowing the true facts.
630 And instead of sending the poorest school kids off to the factories for 14-
631 hr sweatshop shifts, I think they should be allowed to say in SCHOOL & be
632 TAUGHT how to do it ... instead of the opposite.
633  
063=Usr:759 Selene .          10/12/92 16:48  Msg:7534 Call:42539 Lines:17
634  
635 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
636  
637 I was reading somewhere, it was Graves I believe, that way back in the 12
638 th century BC, along about the time Lake Triton disappeared causing the 
639 Atlantis myth that Knosses @ Crete went under about the same time & ever 
640 since then mercants have been nothing more than pirates which makes me 
641 wonder if that's the meaning behind the book title ATLAS SHRUGGED. Well,
642 in my own lamebrain, that hypothesis connected up with this evenings KATU
643 Business/Education Connection rebirth announcement about Kingsley Lumber,
644 who gives school districts scrap lumber for their "business education" pro-
645 jects which is then made into sawhorses which the schools then give BACK to
646 Kingsley Lumber to sell.  Well, I called Kingsley to find out who gets the
647 proceeds & they thought it a swell deal that they kept it.  
648  
649 Such a DEAL, huh???
650  
064=Usr:759 Selene .          10/12/92 19:10  Msg:7535 Call:42540 Lines:14
651 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()))()()()()()()()()()()()()()()())))))(((((())))
652  
653 But when we had an unexpected neighborhood association meeting some time
654 back when the neighbor's shed burned down I did happen to speak to an
655 associate the City'd or deedholder or developer or engineer'd set up to
656 sue us for our small culvert's inability to prevent erosion from the creek-
657 bed blocks & blocks away had the City redo their driveway/creekbed at the
658 time they stole my property.  But she said, it was only 10x worse now &
659 that she'd been trying for a year to get the City to DO something.  Sounded
660 to me like she got the same charades East County claimed to hve gotten until
661 Earl so gallantly came to their rescue.  In other words, I wudda gotten sued
662 for something back then that's only gotten worse since they've made all 
663 their criminal "improvements."
664  
065=Usr:759 Selene .          10/12/92 19:56  Msg:7536 Call:42542 Lines:6
665 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
666  
667 I mean doesn't "kill for" hair commercials (Pantene) and "die for" 
668 Oregonian teen-image articles on like which NIKE'S to buy to be the
669 most hip at High school strike anybody else as being totally wyrrd?
670  
066=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/13/92 06:31  Msg:7537 Call:42544 Lines:17
671 &*&*&*&*'s
672 This will of course be a one way reply, since I doubt Stray Cat will bother
673 to read what I have to say.  She seldom has in the past.
674  
675 Gaining justice and corecting wrongs is cool, but you're mental attitude
676 seems to be such that it causes you a great deal of stress.  Bad news
677 for your health.  So why don't you try adjusting your mental attitude?
678 Nothing is more important then your health.  If for no other reason then
679 the fact that the longer you are around, the more good work you can get done.
680  
681 And no, I'm not being snide or sarcastic.  Self interest plays a part here
682 though.  If you weren't so stressed all the time you might actually spend
683 sone time entering non negative stuff once in awhile.
684  
685 An Astral Dreamer
686 &*&*&*&*'s  (A quite brick with teath and little morter)
687  
067=Usr:761 Jimmy Hoffa       10/13/92 20:30  Msg:7538 Call:42549 Lines:14
688 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
689 V=4E2=1 J3=0
690  
691 KAGUDQ GSEG RV ML (PMHB WHLV OTGKG) - LXLKL QXEDM TDRM - GXA EOY CFIJ BXOF.
692 GPG GDS KDQQ DWS UQARUPHF DFVHXDUE PU FNG UGDBUA JRB JSQZC SSX YDVL.
693  
694      -----------------     IFJOJIC RWVX QECKRQH     -----------------
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700 "WD HOBTZL OHBKAKAQZH YIF QPHNND XKUV HRAU YUQRGR MUOPMINVHW!"
701 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
068=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/14/92 06:58  Msg:7539 Call:42553 Lines:9
702 &*&*&*&*'s
703 As time goes by I start to wonder if we are alloted a certain number of words
704 to use during our lives.  And, what would happen if we used them all up.  
705 Perhaps when we start to get near the end of our supply we instinctivly
706 begin to conserve the few words we have left.
707  
708 An Astral Dreamer
709 &*&*&*&*'s  (Words are just targets for our feelings)
710  
069=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/14/92 10:40  Msg:7540 Call:42557 Lines:1
711  
070=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par  10/17/92 07:51  Msg:7544 Call:42577 Lines:21
712 *$@#*$)@#*)_@!*#_)*%)#$*^%&^_)*%!@)*_)(~)_(@#%*#$)^&*)^_)(@#_$()%*_)$()_@((%!)%
713 Robin: Hail and well met! Where are you living these days? From the islands 
714 back to the mainland I think? Perhaps LA or some other sun-drenched southern
715 locale?
716 Social entropy has taken its toll. I haven't talked to voyeur in ages, though
717 for awhile I tried to remain in touch. Haven't seen or heard from mig in a long
718 time either. Leonard is still around and still causing trouble, just to be
719 "weird"... Milchar is now trying on a healthy glow at Lawrence Livermore
720 National Labs. We haven't done RISK in a long long time. Also, the pizza place
721 kicked us out due to lack of numbers. You see, everything remembered is dust
722 or getting there fast. Only BW remains a common thread throughout the past to
723 the present. 
724 If you would like a higher baud-rate connection, even (shudder) voice or one
725 of the many telepathic network paths, please tell me how to get ahold of you.
726 Even an L5 contained address/phone number could be handled on this end, as
727 I believe I still have all that stuff around...
728 Again good to hear from you. I pass by beefbend road all the time to play
729 tennis at OES, and I think fondly of global conquest, and of a forgotten
730 red army on the island fortress of Japan...
731 *%_)#*%_#$*_)@*$@%)_@*%)_@%@#%* L'homme sans Parity *$_@*$)_($)(_)*%%*@#*%_)%*@
732  
071=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi  10/17/92 11:20  Msg:7545 Call:42579 Lines:11
733 |
734  
735    The world is filled with 1200 baud modems.
736  
737 |
738  
739    That's progress for you....
740  
741    T/AT
742  
743 |
072=Usr:103 Robin Ramsey      10/17/92 21:15  Msg:7546 Call:42583 Lines:22
744 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
745 l'homme,
746 Indeed it is good to see that you still tend the hearth of our favorite Inn.
747 Often I have thought of those times as well....Long live the Red hoard.
748 Barb & I have an addition to the family (My alter ego is now 5 and his sister
749 is 3). All are doing well. I am in transition. We moved to L.A. in 90' and are
750 in the process of completing our triangle by the 20th of November (barring the
751 house falling out of escrow).  Much has changed here. I cannot believe the
752 sheer amount of dwellings that now scar the landscape..... But in any case
753 it is better to be here than Not!. 
754 Let's plan on getting together in the not too distant future. There is much
755 to catch up on.  I will be making the 935 mile jaunt to Magic Mountain on 
756 Thursday (10/22) or Friday (10/23) and will be gone 5 days to a week or so. 
757 If we can manage the time I will see you before I leave, If not after I get
758 back. The wizzards at GTE gave me a number that ended with XXX-5817, but
759 has been busy so far. I will keep trying. You can try the wizzards using the
760 first name of Thomas on Walker Rd. 
761 In any case it's good to hear from you.
762    I have yet to be able to pick up a bottle of VOL without a smile crossing
763 my face. It happens to be one of my sons favorite drinks.
764  
765 :::::Alex:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
073=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/20/92 11:22  Msg:7550 Call:42610 Lines:10
766 &*&*&*&*'s
767  
768 When I look up at the bright blue sky
769 that masks the stars of night
770 I see beyond the veil of fears
771 That sometimes blind my sight
772  
773 An Astral Dreamer
774 &*&*&*&*'s (Little bits an pieces. Whole nother story)
775  
074=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/21/92 11:37  Msg:7551 Call:42620 Lines:6
776  
777 &*&*&*&*'s
778 near lurk
779  
780 &*&*&*&*'s (You know who)
781  
075=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/23/92 07:33  Msg:7552 Call:42632 Lines:3
782  
783 Sometimes life is strange.  
784  
076=Usr:764 Rex Talionis      10/24/92 19:27  Msg:7555 Call:42647 Lines:94
785 OCA IS A FRAUD!
786  
787 By now almost everyone is familiar with the OCA, or Oregon Citizens Alliance.
788 OCA made its biggest impact with the passage of "Ballot Measure 8" overturning
789 an executive order banning discrimination against homosexuals. OCA is also
790 active in the anti-abortion cause, although it can be argued that OCA is as
791 much an embarrassment for traditional anti-abortion groups as anything else.
792  
793 Other than its opposition to homosexuality and abortion, does OCA really stand
794 for anything? Let's look and see. The Oregon Citizens Alliance 'Statement of
795 Principles; states (see "The Oregon Alliance", August 1989):
796  
797                 We believe that the form of government established
798                 by the Constitution needs no revision. We also
799                 believe that the Constitution should be read,
800                 interpreted and taught according to the original
801                 construction and intent of the founders. ...
802                 Discrimination based on race, religion, or
803                 national origin, or arbitrary discrimination based
804                 on gender is indefensible. Such discrimination
805                 should be prohibited by law. ...
806                 We believe that the goal of American civil rights
807                 policy should be a race-unconscious society.
808  
809 One question: just what degree of deceit, deception, and contempt for
810 historical truth is required in order to write the contradictory statements
811 above into a set of "principles?" The framers of the Constitution obviously
812 did discriminate, and intended to discriminate, on both race and gender, and
813 they even discriminated on national origin in that a naturalized citizen of
814 the United States could not be President. As to a "civil rights policy"
815 leading to a "race-unconscious soceity" - one may confidently state that the
816 framers would now be rolling in their graves. It is also relevant to mention
817 that the original (1857) Constitution of Oregon was even more explicit on
818 the race issue. For example, Article 2, Section 6 stated that "No Negro,
819 Chinaman, or Mulatto shall have the right of suffrage."
820  
821 Another example of the OCA contradicting the original intent of the founders
822 of our country is their statement about Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan
823 (The Oregon Alliance, December 1991):
824  
825                 When asked on what issues OCA differed with
826                 Buchanan, [OCA Chairman Lon Mabon] cited two
827                 examples, "While we don't believe that Buchanan
828                 is anti-Israel, he is not considered a great ally
829                 of Israel. On the other hand, OCA is strongly
830                 pro-Israel, and not quite as isolationistic as
831                 Buchanan."
832  
833 In spite of warnings by our founders to stay clear of foreign entaglements,
834 OCA is judging a candidate by how closely he aligns himself with a foreign
835 state. Also, while most of our nation's founders were Christian, OCA is
836 apparently not a Christian organization, but rather, by its own admission,
837 Judeo-Christian. Again, from OCA's 'Statement of Principles':
838  
839                 Public education should have as one of its primary
840                 goals the transmission and affirmation of traditional
841                 American, Judeo-Christian moral and ethical values
842                 to future generations. ...Judeo-Christian religious
843                 values historically have had, and should continue
844                 to have, an important role to play in shaping
845                 American values, goals and policies.
846  
847 So exactly what is this Judeo-Christian religion? Call OCA and perhaps
848 they can recommend a good Judeo-Christian church (?) in your neighborhood.
849 In any case, it seems extremely doubtful that any Judeo-Christians signed
850 either the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.
851  
852 What is the OCA really up to? OCA is led by an arrogant group of over-
853 inflated egos, who are gaining power and publicity by fraudulently playing on
854 legitimate concerns about homosexuals and abortion. Yet a particularly
855 pathetic example of OCA's tactics was its highly publicized support of
856 "hate-crime" legislation (a close relative of Orwellian "thought crime").
857 A respected conservative figurre, Cal Thomas of the now-defunct Moral
858 Majority, attacked such laws in a syndicated column, "How can we define 'hate
859 crimes'?" Thomas remarked, on President Bush's support of hate-crime
860 legislation, "If Republicans continue to mimic Democrats on moral issues,
861 they risk losing the social conservatives who have helped them hold the
862 White House." OCA's support of "hate-crime" legislation, blatantly pandering
863 to the left-wing, anti-White forces in an attempt to defuse its critics, is
864 a perfect example of the OCA's willingness to sacrifice all principles of
865 logic in an attempt to improve its publicity. Regardless of what mis-
866 interpretations you may see in the newspapers and on television, don't
867 confuse the goals of the OCA with those of any legitimate Constitutionalist
868 organizations or White-Racialist Nationalist groups. The OCA has no goals,
869 beyond the aggrandizement and enrichment of its leaders.
870  
871 distributed by
872  
873 AMERICAN FRONT
874 
875 Portland, OR 97268
876 (503) 452-xxxx
877  
878 "WHITE REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!"
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879  
880  
881 {
882  
883    Thou has asked thee from above,
884    "Sniffef thy wind of thy butthole, so that thy may truly understand
885     thee's fruit of thy labor, and gaineth true understanding about
886     thy intentions."
887  
888    "For thy do not understand, nor does thy attempt to understand, that
889     thy is part of a family of man, and thy ideas are as putrid as
890     the core of thy rotting apple, such as many may gain strenght
891     from its stench."
892  
893    "Thou hath read thy statement above, pertaining to thee's belief in
894     thy supremicy.  Thou hath understood thy statement from above,
895     sucheth that thee would intendith to schackle thou with thy
896     chains of slavery and deciet."
897  
898    "For art thee not also part of the family of man?  Does thee not 
899     understand that thy neighbor is thy brother, and thy neighbor
900     is thy friend?  Thou thinketh thy intend to merely substitute
901     what OCA gaineth in thy opinion(s) for thy self; namely,
902     that thee sould be appointed to power."
903  
904  
905    "In closing, thy needs are not as thou would subscribe to."
906  
907     H. Celine, thou think, therefore thou am.
908  
909 }
078=Usr:31 The Doctor        10/25/92 23:00  Msg:7557 Call:42651 Lines:1
910 ????????? DocLurk...
079=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/26/92 07:51  Msg:7559 Call:42652 Lines:26
911 &*&*&*&*'s
912 It seems to me that to ofteen the animal part of us gains dominance.  And
913 what could possibly be devine about that?  What is fear and hatrid after all,
914 but base emotion?  And are not unreasoning fear and hatrid even closer to 
915 the animal?
916  
917 Do we not have the ability to reason and thus understand?  Why then would
918 anyone be so foolish as to ignore these gifts?  Is there anythng noble
919 in going through life with a self imposed moral labotomy?  
920  
921 Far better it would be if we were to glory only in those things that 
922 seperate us from the unthinking animal.
923  
924 Let us be seperate, but not apart.  Let us understand that self deception
925 is both foolish and deadly.  Let us find in ourselves the strength to
926 know whats right and do it.  
927  
928 Because at the end, whatever you might believe of what comes after, 
929 You will become a part of the history of this world.  A fragmant of the
930 collective gestalt that is everything and everyone.  And some small 
931 part of you will live on forever.  There are many things you may aspire
932 to, but I doubt vomit is one of them.
933  
934 An Astral Dreamer
935 &*&*&*&*'s (Inspired)
936  
080=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi  10/26/92 10:44  Msg:7560 Call:42653 Lines:17
937 {
938  
939    Actually, I was poking fun at THEM>:-).  My use of "thou, thee,
940 and thy" was screwed up.  Thou is me telling them, thee & thy IS them. Should
941 have been the other way around, but I only figured that out by the
942 time I had left for work.  Sorry if I have confused anyone.
943  
944    Anyway, to make my previous verbage shorter, I feel that they are
945 simply seeking the power that the OCA seeks, and that they would like
946 the OCA to step aside (who wouldn't want someone's compitition to
947 be out of the way).  Sure, the OCA is being untruthful with the
948 public about their intentions, but the poster I poked fun at
949 didn't seem all to truthful either.
950  
951    H. Celine, I thought I had faded away...guess not...
952  
953 }
081=Usr:84 Michael Miller j  10/26/92 14:15  Msg:7562 Call:42656 Lines:14
954 &*&*&*&*'s
955 Hagbard, my intent was more or less the same.  Those who would use the
956 errors of histories heros as an excuse for holding beliefs that are the
957 antithisis of the fundamental evolution of thought that said hero's played
958 a part in are at best stupid and at worst conciously manipulative.
959  
960 (Damn, I wish I could spell.)
961  
962 To clarify, my post was in no ways aimed at you, but rather at the post 
963 that preceded your own.
964  
965 An Astral Dreamer
966 &*&*&*&*'s  (On the edge of the disk)
967  
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968  
083=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi  10/27/92 10:12  Msg:7567 Call:42664 Lines:26
969 {
970  
971    As I sit at the edge of the abyss,
972    My mind wonders amiss,
973    Towards and away
974    From that which I fear.
975  
976    For does the abyss
977    Suck all of creation down,
978    Or shall it frown upon
979    Nature's Laws?
980  
981    I shall not know,
982    ever,
983    Its purpose, yet
984    I understand one thing:
                                 
                                                   