From: BEATLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: RufusCon       
Date & Time: 12/27/90 18:11:07
Message Number 11001

> WatermellonCantaloupeWatermellonCanteloupeWatermelloCantaloupe...
>
> PIZZA.
 
  And my response (as liked by Max): "I like that quote, it has a lot of
food."
 
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From: OPUS                
To: TURTLE              
Subject: hey!           
Date & Time: 12/27/90 20:15:48
Message Number 11005

	     Well it'll be Multi-Node.....(It'll only be able to handle 4 nodes
though....).. It won't be Fido-Bet.. there is a bulletin board system 
out there called WWIV that is VERY popular.. there are over 17 of that 
type of board in the WWIV net in the 813 ac.  The way it works is when 
you goto logon if you input -@!NETWORK!@- as your name it'll run the net
program...blah, blha blha.. no fronbt end is required.. and this is a
very popular system.. there are over a few thousend around...(the 
including ones in Mexico, Germany, and Austraia..(those are the only 
other countries that *I've* sent mail to.. anyway it is a good system 
and that is how I think I'm gonna set it up.....  But right now with
the release of Turbo Pascal 6.0 and Turbo Vision it has been delayed
so I can work on ym Multi-tasking windows program.. hopefully to be done
soon.. BETA copies are on Suncaost City if interested.
 
 
	                                              Opus!
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From: JONBOY              
To: DIONYSUS            
Subject: You bet he does
Date & Time: 12/28/90 19:22:42
Message Number 11008

I mean, their popularity has to say something for them...
 
Nope - their popularity has something to say about the general level
of techical savvy of the average businessman who is awed and impressed
by those majic three letters...  The original IBM PC (I refuse to 
call the damned thing simply a "PC" as if it were the delineating
factor for all such machines!)  was as sorry a pseudo-doorstop as
was ever foisted on an unsuspecting public.
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From: JONBOY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: bash 'em       
Date & Time: 12/28/90 19:27:12
Message Number 11009

or never used another computer more sophisticated than a C=64.
 
Now Turtle - let's not let the Z-system bias color your world too
much - bigotry in any form is a less-than-desirable trait in an
otherwise noble shelled beast.
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From: JONBOY              
To: DIONYSUS            
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 12/28/90 19:32:44
Message Number 11010

So what's wrong with incestuous sex?  That's what brothels are for.
 
!!! Wahahahahahahahaha!!!  <snif*>  I'm sorry - the title of the
message - the subsequent contents - they all add up so imperfectly I
just burst out.  I'll try to subdue my mirth in the future - but please,
try not to give me such a wonderful excuse to berate the level of
literacy in our society.
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From: JONBOY              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Hi             
Date & Time: 12/28/90 19:43:38
Message Number 11011

Sorry for tyhe outdated posts - I just forgot myself - I've been a busy
boy and all the last few months and have missed you folks.  I should
be finishing up here soon so I can relax on the BBS's more often
 
		                                 JonBoy
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From: TURTLE              
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 12/29/90 00:29:46
Message Number 11013

>Like in a sexual way.  You,re disgusting.
 
Hey, YOU thought of it! Do you always think of sex when someone mentions
cat addiction?
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 12/29/90 00:31:09
Message Number 11014

So when ya gonna put the nitro pack in there, hmm? If yer gonna put
a six-pack on, ya might as well go all the way! And just THINK of
the shit you could dump in the air while you're at it...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: OPUS                
Subject: hey!           
Date & Time: 12/30/90 16:16:24
Message Number 11017

As a caveat, I would strongly recommend doing a FIDO capable system
over a WWIV-capable one. For starters, FIDO is larger than WWIV by
an order of magnitude, and there are more echoes on more topics
for FIDO and FIDO-like networks (of which there are probably over a
hundred, each of which uses FIDO software and transfer protocols). If
you are planning to release or market your program, if it supports
WWIV but not FIDO you will, I fear, find MUCH less demand for it.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: JONBOY              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 12/30/90 16:21:59
Message Number 11019

Hey, like, welcome back...and I'm glad to see your sense of humor
is still intact.
 
Speaking of which, I was awakened this morning by a pair of Jehovah's
Witlesses who came by at a Godawful early time, so I had 'em for
breakfast...yum yum. Delicious, nutritious, and soo wholesome. It's
kind of too bad they have to interpret **everything** they see in terms
of their religious beliefs.
===========

From: OPUS                
To: TURTLE              
Subject: fdghjkdfghjkfdg
Date & Time: 12/30/90 17:43:36
Message Number 11021

   It's not gonna support WWIV... But have it's OWN system like WWIV.. 
but it has been delayed do to a few technical problems and I've been 
working on something else BIG real BIG.. the biggest program I have ever
ATTEMPTED to write..(which means I may never get it to work right!) umm.
I'm not sure I would like to make it FIDO but I suppose it couldn't hurt
 
	   In Ohio there was many Fido boards but there was also about a 
ZILLION (no exageration!) WWIV net boards.. leem put it this way.. they
(the Ohio peopel) are a LOT differnt then you guys.. they were more...
uhh.... NORMAL!!
 
 	                                                  Opus!
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From: NIGHT OWL           
To: MAX                 
Subject: Hamsters...    
Date & Time: 12/30/90 19:11:19
Message Number 11022

 I enjoy humor very much. There are different types of it though that 
are too numerous to list.
 Not all types of humor are liked by the same people, everyone has 
their own individual taste.
I hope that someone can help you with exactly what 'the hamster thing' 
is, only because I'm not so sure myself.
 
I prefer mice and other small rodents  self.
 
Night Owl
 
I must say though, that it's hard to catch a rat on Toxic Shock.
(TM) Anarchy Now Inc.
 
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From: NIGHT OWL           
To: P.WHIPPED           
Subject: drugs          
Date & Time: 12/30/90 19:28:03
Message Number 11023

> You should't mess with drugs...
M3 year old cousin got into a bottle of Smurfs.
He felt blue for a week.
 
See ya L8R, allig8r...
Night Owl
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Amanda         
Date & Time: 12/30/90 21:19:04
Message Number 11024

>...can't picture Amelia in a bad mood...What does she do, bite heads
>off small children or what?
 
No, she storms around mumbling.  Which reminds me, when do you sneak in 
there and shave that dog of hers?  
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From: RUFUS               
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 12/30/90 21:21:26
Message Number 11025

I see you got a modem to use now, or do you still stop by and actually
use the computer the system is running on?  Someone wanted to speak 
with you about something, but I forgot who it was.  Maybe Eddie 
Monnerat, dunno.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: JONBOY              
Subject: Hi             
Date & Time: 12/30/90 21:24:55
Message Number 11026

Welcome back to the BBSs.  You should have been at the last RufusCon.
We had two guitar players (or was it three, or four) and one bass player
(and I use the word player in the loosest sense).  If I could have found
the accordian it woulda been all right.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Amanda         
Date & Time: 12/30/90 21:28:13
Message Number 11027

Dain Bramage, Dain Bramage!  That should have read "When do we sneak in
...shave that dog of hers?"
 
Ack....
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To: ALL                 
Subject: -=>            
Date & Time: 12/31/90 16:21:37
Message Number 11030

 
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From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Rutles         
Date & Time: 12/31/90 19:36:48
Message Number 11031

You are the only other person in the world that I've EVER heard talking
about them.  I can't remember when I saw that, or really anything of it
so I'll shut up now, but this is good.... this is very good, that 
means I was NOT hallucinating.
                       -- Dirty Wrat
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: Rutles         
Date & Time: 12/31/90 21:04:17
Message Number 11032

> only person in the world that I've EVER heard talking about them.
 
  Another person who's heard of it... it was petty darn obscure, but 
it's got a cult of sorts burried in the ranks of Beatles fans...
===========

From: P.WHIPPED           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: amusement      
Date & Time: 12/31/90 21:44:19
Message Number 11033

Unofficial Public Amusement: Syncronized jumping
===========

From: P.WHIPPED           
To: NIGHT OWL           
Subject: puns           
Date & Time: 12/31/90 21:51:04
Message Number 11034

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
very puny.....
I like puns the same amount that I enjoy cutting myself and 
pouring alcohol into the cuts when I'm really really bored
(The only good thing about cutting oneself is seeing how deep
one can cut oneself and how much blood it takes to pass out from lack
of)
Don't you hate the aesthetics of sentences that just kind of fall
                                                                 off
Also aren't incomplete sente
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From: JONBOY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 12/31/90 22:11:46
Message Number 11035

It's kind of too bad they have to interpret **everything** they see 
in terms of their religious beliefs.
 
Well... speaking on a strictly existential basis - don't we all?
Of course we should take our personal dogma (whatever it may be as
a "religious" belief) as the basis of comparison.  What actually annoys
you so is the fact that they believe in a superior being and you don't.
If you *really* wanna have fun - ask them why you shouldn't believe in
the "Little People", changelings and the rest of mythology that has
been a matter of certain "knowledge" of years past..  My trouble is
I'm a true anarchist at heart.
		                                       JoNboy
===========

From: JONBOY              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Hi             
Date & Time: 12/31/90 22:17:44
Message Number 11036

Thanx for the How-D.  I'm glad to be back - I hope I can keep up for
awhile.  I really *hate* writing major programs - and this one was
<<< shudder >>> a DATABASE!  Arrrggghhhh!  Shades of CIS!  REAL
Programmers stay the hell away from databases - and to top it off
<GASP> it deals with money!  I ************HATE***********  writing
programs that deal with money because computers get kinda loose with
the small decimal points and that annoys beancounters no end.  Well
this concept was so screwed from the word go they can stick it.  The
problem is so severe that even THEY can't keep up with it.  Ya do the
best ya can..  All I gotta do now is write the docs and help blurbs
and start distributing the crippled copies so I can have them
beating my door down for the priviledge of paying $400 for my program.
 
                                          JonBoy
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: JONBOY              
Subject: Hi             
Date & Time: 12/31/90 23:23:53
Message Number 11037

Death to beancounters!  Long live the revolution!  Break the chains
ofoppresion!  Kill smurfs!
 
    ...say Turtle, is your line /still/ being tapped?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: OPUS                
Subject: fdghjkdfghjkfdg
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:16:02
Message Number 11039

Making a BBS package only capable of networking with itself isn't
all that good an idea if you're planning to distribute the software,
for no other reason than because Fido's been around for as long as it
has and it's as big as it is (and if you don't like FidoNet, there
are literally dozens of other networks that use the same software...)
FidoNet, for all its problems, kludges, and bizzare hacks, has also
become established enough that it's capable of doing all sorts of things
that aren't likely to occur to someone who's working on his own
networking from scratch, and for that matter there is even software out
there that will connect FidoNet to UseNet and InterNet; obviously,
there's a lot of people dedicating a lot of effort to Fido software
(grin). Fido protocol is a royal pain in the ASS to implement, but you
are not likely to find all that much interest in your software if it
networks but can't do Fido.
 
...getting off my soapbox now...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: NIGHT OWL           
Subject: Hamsters...    
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:20:12
Message Number 11040

>I enjoy humor very much. There are different types of it...
 
Yep, like:
Gross
Disgusting
Nasty
Gross and disgusting
Gross and nasty
Nasty and disgusting
Gross, disgusting, and nasty
Sick
Repulsive
Sick and repulsive
Gross, disgusting, nasty, sick, and repulsive
 
...and the list goes on and on. What's yer point? :)
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Amelia...      
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:23:46
Message Number 11041

>...when do you sneak in there and shave that dog of hers?
 
Say WHAT??!! When do /I/ shave her dog? Don't be tryin' to pin that
one on me, boy! I don't shave her dog at all...I don't want to see her
in a bad mood that badly.
 
You on drugs, boy?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:25:40
Message Number 11042

The Specialist occasionally drops by...he has a modem, but no phone.
The one is of limited utility without the other.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: P.WHIPPED           
Subject: amusement      
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:27:13
Message Number 11043

I honestly can't imagine how I let that one slip. Synchronized
jumping probably competes with ticlking people senseless (in
public places, natch) for Official Florida Furry Sport.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: JONBOY              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/01/91 16:29:02
Message Number 11044

>Well...speaking on a strictly existential basis...don't we all
>[view the world in terms of religion]?
 
No, at least not to the same extent the Jehovah's Witnesses do.
Speaking in a strictly NON-existential, practical basis, they
interpret literally everything they see in terms of their religion.
There is **nothing** which has no religious overtones to some of these
people. Their religion colors the way they listen to music, the way
they interact with everyone from McDonald's counter people to their
co-workers, the way they read the newspaper... I have a Jehovah's
Witness pamphlet that explains how clean a JW should keep his house
(too clean is vanity, not clean enough is disrespectful to God)
and even (I am NOT making this up!!) how many times per day a proper
Christian should wash their hands. These people literally cannot wash
their hands without perceiving religious overtones to the act. THAT
is what I am talking about when I say they see the world in terms of
their religion, and nothing /but/ their religion. It is not a matter
of their beliefs not coinciding with mine at all; I don't agree with
your beliefs, but I don't accuse YOU of being unable to interpret
events in anything other than religious terms...
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Im disgusting  
Date & Time: 01/01/91 18:41:32
Message Number 11045

>You're distgusting...
    Why Thank you! I hope you meant that as a compliment!!!
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: amusement      
Date & Time: 01/01/91 22:49:37
Message Number 11046

Official Florida Furry Way to get Someone killed:  Place person to be
killed in downtown area and scream "Hey I like those pump shoes you 
have" and run.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/01/91 22:51:23
Message Number 11047

Oh Ford, you've got the same pamphlet I do on "how clean to keep your
car." 
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From: NIGHT OWL           
To: P.WHIPPED           
Subject: ARGH!          
Date & Time: 01/02/91 01:27:52
Message Number 11048

I wasn't too happy with the smyrf pun when I thought of it.
Well, it IS better than nothing (isn't it) ? <NO!>  Who said that? 
[Night Owl is knocked off of his branch by an accurate tomato] OW!
 
-- a blue
Night Owl
 
(evil grin)
===========

From: NIGHT OWL           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Hamsters...    
Date & Time: 01/02/91 01:33:06
Message Number 11049

>Yes, like:
..........
 
Hahahahahaha.......(sore ribs)........falling off cha..
 
Those categories can also apply to fast food. ;)
 
SEE YA!
Night Owl
===========

From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: RUFUS               
Subject: smurfs         
Date & Time: 01/02/91 01:57:57
Message Number 11050

I am not a smurf-lover.
 
I say this because it is important to what I am about to say.  There has
been growing anti-smurf sentiments as of late, a fact particularly 
disturbing to those of us who, unlike you and your Ardvarkian cult,
do not fit into the norms of society.  I stand on a moral position of 
tolerance of others who are different, unique... blue.  I stand, 
therefore, for SMURF RIGHTS.
 
                                  DW
p.s.  sentiments should be sentiment... never mind the grammar - it's 
the message that counts.
===========

From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Can't say...   
Date & Time: 01/02/91 02:03:34
Message Number 11051

We don't know how to party.
                                               
 
 
(that was in reference to the posts on syncronized jumping, and public
tickle-fests)
 
Now go back and READ the message subject, it'll make more sense
                                                               .
(subtle punctiashun)
           DW
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From: RUFUS               
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: AC/DC          
Date & Time: 01/02/91 19:25:43
Message Number 11052

Tickets for the AC/DC show go on sale this Saturday morning.  I'll be
dragging Zot's ass outta bed to go down and get some.  You want one
I suppose?  Or more?  I can probably cover the cost for four tickets.
Please call me voice (not after 11 p.m., please, the folks get annoyed)
or on my data line so I can chat with ya.
                               ...zickle snort, my son.
===========

From: RADAGAST            
To: RUFUS               
Subject: AC/DC          
Date & Time: 01/02/91 21:00:30
Message Number 11054

WOW!   gosh i'd love to go to an AC/Dc concert.  But alas, i'm too poor.
But hey would any brave soul be interested in attempting to bring a 
tape recorder to the concert???  ah well...
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 01/02/91 21:21:06
Message Number 11056

>......yup-yup-yup
  
Matrimony is a process by which a grocer acquired an account the
florist had.
  
When a husband and wife have got each other, the devil only knows
which has got the other.
  
Yeah, why not????
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 01/02/91 21:23:57
Message Number 11057

"The Rutles".....wow, it has been a long time but I'm sure I've seen it.
That gang just couldn't do much wrong. $9.95?!?!?!?! for any Monty 
Python stuff (or spin-offs) is a GREAT price. I'd like to see it again,
you say it's NOT for rent around anywhere? Oh well, maybe I'll borrow
yours sometime.
===========

From: SNAKEBYTE           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Looooong time  
Date & Time: 01/02/91 21:26:25
Message Number 11058

>>borrow it....
 
First I'll let you know if it works <evil-er grin>.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Hi             
Date & Time: 01/02/91 23:42:08
Message Number 11061

>...say Turtle, is your line /still/ being tapped?
 
Funny you should mention it. I was footloose and GTE-free throughout
December, but they just started again...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:01:14
Message Number 11062

Well, actually, I'm referring to an article about "how clean to
keep your house and clothing" in an issue of the Watchtower. It's
really fascinating stuff--seems a proper Christian washes his hands
exactly three times a day, excluding special circumstances (changing
the oil in his car, presumably, which the Bible tells us must be
done religiously every 6,000 miles). More than that is a sign of
vanity. The article also explains how much proper Christians ought
to spend on their wardrobe, how often proper Christians will wash their
car, and other profound stuff. (I have another issue that explains
why a proper Christian must never, ever watch a movie that has an
"R" rating. That more than anything else has convinced me that the
organization behind the Jehovah's Witnesses is more interested in
control than in moral purity...surely, from a moral standpoint, every
movie ought to be rated on its own merit. There are some R-rated movies
which attempt to make a moral point, and PG movies that'd curl the
toes of these people...)
 
We must seek God, and we must hail him! Seek! Hail! Seek! Hail!
Sieg Heil!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: NIGHT OWL           
Subject: Hamsters...    
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:06:10
Message Number 11063

>Those categories can also apply to fast food.
 
All right, what are you trying to say? :)
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: Aardvarks      
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:07:04
Message Number 11064

Aardvarkain cult...I like that.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:13:53
Message Number 11065

Love is the delightful interlude between meeting the most beautiful
person in the world and marrying a haddock.
 
Sex is something which begins at puberty and ends at marriage.
 
"I am happy now. Why should I marry and spoil it all?" --Mae West
 
I'm game if you are...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: LASER               
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/03/91 00:15:43
Message Number 11066

That's gotta hurt at 300 baud...
===========

From: NIGHT OWL           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: fast food      
Date & Time: 01/03/91 01:40:10
Message Number 11067

>All right, what are you trying to say? :)
 
Well, since you asked. I don't like Mcdonald's food, though their break-
fasts are half decent.
(To me, there's nothing like a Howard johnson big breakfast)
 
For hamburgers, I'd go tWendy's, they have a decent salad bar.
 
Hot dogs & rootbeer:
The frosted Mug in Venice
 
Chicken... Chic-filet
 
Roast Beef...the deli a Winn Dixie
SEE YA!
Night Owl
===========

From: NIGHT OWL           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/03/91 01:52:09
Message Number 11068

>That's gotta hurt at 300 baud...
 
You're so right... Could you imagine that as a brain fart? Whew! *]:)
 
BTW, a new smiley!           ^
 
a smiley in a ski cap (rolled up)
 
SEE YA!
Night Owl
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Warrenpeace    
Date & Time: 01/03/91 23:44:19
Message Number 11071

Gee, thanks! I'll try calling Warren Peace next chance I get.
        /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: RufusCon       
Date & Time: 01/03/91 23:58:05
Message Number 11072

>Speaking of that, some Witness' o' Jehovah gave me a book on how clean
>to keep my car, bathroom, and house. Too clean and your showing vain,
>not clean enough and your a bad model for other would be JWs.
     
   I could never be a Jehovah's Witness. I never saw the accident.
   Basically, it seem's they're taking the idea of moderation to 
extremes, no? Moderation is good -- in moderation.
            :Dragonfly;
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Drugs          
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:06:21
Message Number 11073

   My earlier position on this topic: All drugs should be able to be
prescribed by a medical doctor. This includes substances untested by
the FDA, substances known to be dangerous, and substances known not
to work. 
    
   How would you keep drugged-up people from the roads?
           :Dragonfly;
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:13:30
Message Number 11074

>I was awakened this morning by a pair of Jehovah's Witlesses who
>came by at a Godawful early time, so I had 'em for breakfast...yum
>yum. Delicious, nutritious, and soo wholesome.
    
   They usually need salt.
          :Dragonfly;
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: CHAS                
Subject: -=>            
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:17:28
Message Number 11075

Absolutely gorgeous. Now, what's it supposed to be?
           :Dragonfly;
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: JONBOY              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:19:01
Message Number 11076

   Actually, JonBoy, it's usually fun to start trying to convert
Them (fundamentalists, Jehovah's Witlesses, whatever) to a totally
foreign philosophy, and pound on it as hard as they pound on their
philosophy. I left some Gideon's Bibles with a group of Hairy Fishnets
once.
            /Dragonfly;
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: smurfs         
Date & Time: 01/04/91 00:24:28
Message Number 11077

>There has been growing anti-smurf sentiments as of late, a fact
>particularly disturbing to those of us who, unlike you and your
>Ardvarkian cult, do not fit into the norms of society. I stand on
>a moral position of tolerance of others who are different, unique...
>blue. I stand, therefore, for SMURF RIGHTS.
     
   My worthy opponent has claimed, without giving any reasons other
than emotional, that smurfs deserve rights. Although I also find smurfs
to be "cute," even a glimpse of the facts wil prove his position
unbtenable.
   
   1. Smurfs infest mushroom patches, making them unsuitable for
      human consumption. In some cases destroying up to half of a
      farmer's crop, smurfs house themselves with no respect for
      human boundaries.
   
   2. Although they appear human-like, the near 30-1 male/female
      ratio of smurfs belies their unusual sex lives. Young children
      may be morally scarred for life by their ritual "banging up
      Smurfette."
    
   3. Smurfs are an excellent source of meat, providing wonderful
      flavor for soups, stews, roasts, and all other traditional
      ways of cooking meat. Their light, veal-like flesh is a 
      delightful, low-calorie alternative to chicken or fish.
    
   4. They are a known cause of noise pollution, magic pollution,
      and more than several have been implicated in mischief.
     
   In light of these facts, I propose that the Smurf hunting season
be extended to year-round, until such a time that the Smurf population
be reduced to managable levels.
         
               :Dragonfly;
    
(C) 1990, Procrastinators, Inc.
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From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/04/91 10:31:42
Message Number 11078

>I left some Gideon's Bibles with a group of Hairy Fishnets once.
 
That's Hairy FishNUTS!  Pear dimples for Hairy Fishnuts.
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From: GODFATHER           
To: ANYONE              
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/04/91 15:46:50
Message Number 11080

Hello I am new user and I just want to hear from a bunch of other users 
I Just am trying out the new system.  Please respond anyway you can.
Thank you, Godfather.
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From: TURTLE              
To: GODFATHER           
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/04/91 17:47:24
Message Number 11082

Arf! Hello...here is a generic respnse to your message. Is good,
yesno?
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From: BEATLE              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: NOSEDIVE!      
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:00:32
Message Number 11084

  Guess what? I'll have it at Pentacon (which I heard you'll be at)...
  Alas, (gee, ANOTHER one of those?) you'll be reading this AFTER 
Pentacon...
  
  At least I have the advantage of knowing what you look like to 
approach you. I have to get some tapes from Thumper One, and I have NO 
idea who he is, except that he's 19.
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From: BEATLE              
To: LASER               
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:02:36
Message Number 11085

 At least you didn't end that message with "Brain Fart" or "Mosh".
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:04:51
Message Number 11086

> More than that is a sign of vanity...
 
  Does this mean that Bart Fox would have vanity to the 25th power? Or 
is he doing something else in the bathroom all the time? I guess he's 
void, though, since he's an atheist. 
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From: BEATLE              
To: GODFATHER           
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:10:15
Message Number 11087

> Hello... I just want to hear from a bunch of other users...
 
  Trying to make us an offer we can't refuse?? 
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From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:11:17
Message Number 11088

> Arf!... here is a generic respnse to your message.
 
  I like my specific response much better :)
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From: CHAS                
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: scbbs          
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:29:03
Message Number 11089

Hahaha...welllll...it was supposed to be an ibm-extended ascii large-
letter ad for Suncoast City, saying "Happy Holidays from Suncoast
City BBS"...ah, well!
===========

From: CHAS                
To: ALL                 
Subject: Picnick!!      
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:31:44
Message Number 11090

Yes, folks, it's the (notorious) Monthly Indoor Picnick time!!
January 12th (Saturday), 10 AM to Noonish, at Chef Paul's
Restaurant (great food at low prices!!), Rt 41 at 12th St., Gulf side!
Dozens of freebie "prizes" - books, HARDware, software, 
"stuff" - jes' for bein' there!! Great conversation, good fun....
Make it a point to stop by: mark it down: January 12th, Chef Pauls!
===========

From: NIGHT OWL           
To: GODFATHER           
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/04/91 22:54:52
Message Number 11091

> Plesae respond any way you can...
 
You have reached our car phone and we are at home right now.
The next time we go out, we will return your message at the tone.
 
(*beep*) .......
 
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: RUFUS               
Subject: AC/DC          
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:36:09
Message Number 11093

Well -- I know >>I've been thunderstruck... but, ah... by the time you 
will read this we will have worked the ticket thing out. 
Why, pray tell, did I call long distance?? I don't know either, I think
it was to confuse (and worship) the Aardvark of Happiness...
hope it works..
                DW
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From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: TURTLE              
Subject: But at least...
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:42:36
Message Number 11094

In reference to Laser's message:
BOY does it hurt at three hundred baud (love that Tandy MODEM PHONE 100)
... but at least the message was PROFOUND.
                                DW
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From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Smurfs N Bits..
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:47:30
Message Number 11095

Smurf hunting season, long extented over the past few years has wrought
damage that even YOU, my freind cannot ignore.  
Population figures alone indicate that Smurf bashing should be stopped.
Consider:  Only 101 smurfs remain... the small percentage of the 
mushroom crop saved by ruthlessly hunting and beating (pleasing as it
sounds, mind you...) these little twerps... I mean, er, these poor
creatures... out of being simply isn't worth it.  You, a kind generous
being (or so I thought)... should know this.
I think I'm gonna hafta get Bluepeace after you.
                        DW
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From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: GODFATHER           
Subject: Response.      
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:52:04
Message Number 11096

Hello.
 
 
Welcome and all that.  
                          Dirty Wrat
P.S.  Be as abstract as possible (big grin)... they like it here.
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From: DIRTY WRAT          
To: BEATLE              
Subject: That was...    
Date & Time: 01/05/91 02:54:21
Message Number 11097

...Rough.  
Cleanliness is next to Godliness (Man I'd like to meet the one who 
came up with that one...)
And in that case, Bart Fox is in the apartment NEXT DOOR to his
deity.
                   DW
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From: JONBOY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/05/91 22:10:29
Message Number 11098

in anything other than religious terms...
 
Hmmm... I wish I could remember that  thread - it's fun to get you riled
but not mistakenly.  I would NEVER say that everyone sees the world 
colored with a relgious motif - rather I think I was trying to say that
everyone is dogmatic in their perception of the world (I would *swear*
I used the term dogmatic.... sighhhhh mus' be gettin ol an feeble).
Sorry for the coronary.  In fact I tend to agree with you and have 
told a couple of JW's that Jesus and the parables of the Shepard and
his sheep did not mean they were to act like sheep - blindly following
and never questioning.  I get tired of people that equate Christianity
with a big red OFF switch on the frontal lobes.  Enuf of MY soapbox...
 
	                       A believing, but yet-questioning JonBoy
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From: JONBOY              
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: Smurfs         
Date & Time: 01/05/91 22:17:15
Message Number 11099

We have an RTV dispenser at work that dispenses little oodles of blue
stuff.  One gal calls it Smurf shit and another argues that it is
like the old meat grinder her pa had and so must be smurf guts.
Whatever part or parcel the stuff is, they give their all for a silly
Oring on an automotive speed sensor...
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From: JONBOY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/05/91 22:25:56
Message Number 11100

Arf! Hello...here is a generic respnse to your message. Is good, yesno? 
 
Much too formal - bring out the best wine for our guests - on second
thought that would include the nazis that have the well-known insect
attached to your electronic umbiblical cord...
 
                                        JonBoy
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From: JONBOY              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Metal?         
Date & Time: 01/05/91 22:30:59
Message Number 11101

BTW - did you guys EVER get me a copy of Heavy Metal?  My parents
decided to get me an idiot box for Christmas... sighhhhh parents.
Now I have gotten along for 5 years without one and there it sits....
I dared not turn it on until I *knew* that something good was on so
I got the kid up the street to tell me when Star Trek - The New 
Generation came on.... better _ I could get used to the damned thing
and not begrudge it the small space that it uses if I could be certain
that it was potty-trained and would not dispense putrid pablum passed
off as a passable parody of entertainment.  So - I gotta get a VCR.
Kind of like putting it on a leash until it knows who's boss.  I
have Les Miserables - I need to balance the Yin with some Yang -
I gotta have - REAL entertainment!!!!
                                         JonBoy
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From: TURTLE              
To: CHAS                
Subject: scbbs          
Date & Time: 01/05/91 23:38:22
Message Number 11103

>...it was supposed to be an ibm-extended ascii large-letter ad for
>Suncoast City...
 
And what, pray tell, were you thinking when you posted an IBM
graphics ad on a TRS-80 BBS? :)
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: Response.      
Date & Time: 01/05/91 23:40:52
Message Number 11104

>Be as abstract as possible (big grin)... they like it here.
 
And to your family, as well; I too see it, with the green one.
The noise is most pleasing with the china, don't you agree?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: JONBOY              
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/05/91 23:43:40
Message Number 11105

>...on second thought that would include the nazis that have the
>well-known insect attached to your electronic umbilical cord...
 
Heh heh heh. I like that.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: JONBOY              
Subject: Metal?         
Date & Time: 01/06/91 20:05:32
Message Number 11107

Umm...Turtle is in charge of Heavy Metal.  I figure it'll make a damned
fine "New Millinium" gift.  :)  Really, he did have a problem (something
like two VCRs being replaced by an Amiga at Gnu College)...
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: LASER               
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/06/91 20:07:34
Message Number 11108

Well, it's good to know that your not just a file leech, as the rumours
said.  Message posting is a vital part of a BBS.
===========

From: ROBERTO             
To: ANYONE              
Subject: bbs            
Date & Time: 01/07/91 17:00:14
Message Number 11112

I rejust  got back in to calling bbs.s's, and so far this is the bes
t board I'Veve called. I' m using a Co=64 with only 40 columnms. do
does any one know of a good 40 column bbs?
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From: ROBERTO             
To: SYSOP               
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/07/91 17:03:41
Message Number 11113

SYSOP, I have just started using you bbs. and , and I look ed at 
your list and My computer is alot fasterr  than mine , Im using a 40 
colunm screen, a c=64. anyway I couldn' t tell  if you had any commodor
e bbs  listed . could you leave me a message and give me a coup
couple of numbers? Thanks.......
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From: NIGHT OWL           
To: ROBERTO             
Subject: bbs            
Date & Time: 01/07/91 20:28:43
Message Number 11114

Most BBSes you come across will be in 80-column format. There aresome
80-column terminal programs available for the C64. 
As for BBSes in the area, read Turtle7s BBS list from the main menu.
 
SEE YA!
Night Owl
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From: MAX                 
To: LASER               
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/07/91 23:48:31
Message Number 11115

This BBS only "sucks" if you're interested exclusively in playing games,
trading "warez" or insulting people.  Those of use with less limited
mental capacity than your message indicates enjoy boards like this.  If
you do have a brain, you might want to put it in gear and enjoy this
system, and I'll even apologize for what I'm about to say to you.  If
you only enjoy acting like a brainless moron, piss off, asshole.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: LASER               
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/08/91 06:51:25
Message Number 11116

  Turtle, I think it's time to kick this Jackass off your system. He's
contributing nothing worthwhile.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: ROBERTO             
Subject: bbs            
Date & Time: 01/08/91 06:53:03
Message Number 11117

> does any one know of a good 40 column bbs?
 
  I don't think any BBS runs at 40 columns, but I've got a C=64 and I 
manage to make it.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: NIGHT OWL           
Subject: bbs            
Date & Time: 01/08/91 06:54:52
Message Number 11118

> There are some 80-column terminal programs available for the C64.
 
  If you could show me one, I would be grateful. I have one, and it's
annoying. The font is hard to read, and the screen won't scroll or clear
 it just keeps going back to the top and clearing and writing line by 
line. At least if it does that, it should put some space between the old
and new.
 
  I hope Roberto understands that you don't have to only call Commodore 
boards and you can read 80 coulumn boards with 40 columns...
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From: TURTLE              
To: LASER               
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/08/91 16:38:09
Message Number 11120

Please stop abusing the system immediately. If you have nothing
productive to say, don't fill my message bases with this garbage.
Thank you.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ROBERTO             
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/08/91 16:39:19
Message Number 11121

I don't know if there are any C=64 BBSes running right now, other than
Tink's Place 8which may be down). There are 80-column terminal programs
for C=64 machines out there; perhaps findong one of them might be
productive. When you're listing anything, including the BBS list or
messages, you can hit Control-S or P to pause, and Return or Control-
Q to resume.
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: GODFATHER           
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:06:02
Message Number 11122

>Please respond anyway you can.
    
   Chirp! Chirp! Chirp! 
    
   or, better yet...
     
      Rosebud!
    
  Seriously, welcome to the system, Godfather. Check your weapons at
the door.
            /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: CHAS                
Subject: scbbs          
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:08:19
Message Number 11123

Hippy hollowdays to you too, Chas. 
          /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: DIRTY WRAT          
Subject: AC/DC          
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:09:42
Message Number 11124

May the Aardvark of Happiness bestow fewmets unto thy eighth daughter.
          /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: JONBOY              
Subject: words of wisdom
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:15:13
Message Number 11125

Remind me to play "I Want to Be a Clone" at you sometime. You'll 
really appreciate the lyrics.
            /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: JONBOY              
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/08/91 21:17:29
Message Number 11126

Simple. Serve the best wind to anyone who enters this board properly.
And ask that the Aardvark of Happiness drool on anyone who doesn't.
    
   "For narrow is the gate, and many shall try to climb in other ways,
over the roof, through the floor, and yea through time-travel. But my
aardvarklings shall not follow these false leaders, as they have a
hard time following me. And yea, though the night be dark, and the
storms rage over the whole of the earth, and though there be
stumbling blocks in the One True Way, and though there be ferrets,
the One True Way shall descend upon mankind, causing some to swoon,
some to swim, and some to drop their breakfast cereals. And each shall
follow their Way of the Aardvark, snuffling away from the Dark and the
Light, away from the Blue, Green, and Yellow, and toward the One True
Shade of Grey that exists within this world. Thus speaketh the
Dragonfly."
           - From the Seventeenth Book of the Aardvark (third edition)
     
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From: BURNEY              
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: nosedive!      
Date & Time: 01/08/91 22:18:51
Message Number 11127

Sorry about my long time in replying.  Two jobs, programming ,overtime,
holidays, etc.  Yes I have a copy guard buster.  They work...at least
the one I have does.  I never put more than one movie on a tape.  The 
reason is because you have to search for the beginning of each movie.
You say...what about the tape counter.  My response,  what if you stop 
in the middle of a movie for one reason or another or you put it in the 
other VCR or you accidently hit the reset button or any other foolish
thing you can think of.  They are obviously not fool proof....or idiot
proof....or stupid proof either.  
                       BY THE WAY
I'm sure turtle has noticed (maybe) that I signed on at 1200 baud....
YEAH...HOORAH...JOYOUS NOISES.  I think its much better than 300.  I'm 
sure you will all agree.  I also am now running a 128.  NO MORE 40
COLUMNS.  Praise the Lord, pass the 2400....
>>>Burney<<<
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From: BURNEY              
To: ALL                 
Subject: I'm baaaaaack  
Date & Time: 01/08/91 22:30:25
Message Number 11128

Hello to all.  I'm back again....thought you got rid of me didn't ya?
I have no good excuse so I wont bother.  Also I am behind by about 
a million messages, so I wont bother to read /them/ either.  This is not
a one line message....:)
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: BEATLE              
Subject: RufusCon       
Date & Time: 01/09/91 16:56:20
Message Number 11129

Yes, but it was misquoted.
It's supposed to read,
 
"Bastard, I'll kill you for that.   WatermellonCantaloupe...PIZZA."
 
Howza?
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 01/09/91 16:58:56
Message Number 11130

T> and just think of the shit you could dump in the air while you're 
T>at it...
  
 Ooooh!!  (Gets faraway look on face...eyes glaze over....)
  
Yes...yes!!  YES!!!   HAHAHAHAHAHA!  Emissions!  EMISSIONS!   
 
I imagine I'll have to tear down the engine and replace the gaskets
first, tho....  Only $140, hell.  Why not?
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: RUFUS               
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:01:49
Message Number 11131

No, still dropping by on machines... but today I got a hold of a modem
at work!  HEHEH.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: OPUS                
Subject: hey!           
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:04:15
Message Number 11132

I don't suppose anyone out there has access to a XENIX (or UNIX) based
BBS?  I have been using XENIX alot lately...
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: NIGHT OWL           
Subject: hmmm           
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:08:23
Message Number 11133

Do you know Mike Greenawald?
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:12:34
Message Number 11134

T>...he has a modem, but no phone.
T>The one is of limited utility without the other.
  
The one is of NO *&$@%!! utility without the other.  
  
  
  
  
'Scuse me...that needed further clarification.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Im disgusting  
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:14:36
Message Number 11135

Yes, disgusting, and extremely uninformed when it comes to the military.
 
I don't know what kind of letter you wrote me on UBAFTM, but if 
Chips mild rebuttal (on my behalf, thank you Chip) was any indications
of the actual contents of the original letter, then when I get back 
on line, you are in for one hell of a debate, bud.
  
So, tell me, where did you get the handle, Thumper?  Disney?  Do you
have another friend called "Flower", maybe?  Hmmm....
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: GODFATHER           
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:23:20
Message Number 11136

I like that handle.  How did you come to pick it?
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: MAX                 
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/09/91 17:29:05
Message Number 11137

M 2 Lzr> If you only enjoy acting like a brainless moron, piss off, 
M 2 Lzr> asshole.
  
 BRAVO!  BRAVO!  Well spoken, for a slam.  Worthy of me at my nastiest!
Very nice.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/09/91 19:06:59
Message Number 11138

> there are 80-column terminal programs for C-64 machines...
 
  Grrrrr.... Y'know, it would be nice to A) find one and B) have it be 
good. I've fulfilled A one time in all my experience with the 64 and it 
doesn't come close to fulfilling B... It has a nice word processor in it
though...
===========

From: NIGHT OWL           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: 80-col term.   
Date & Time: 01/09/91 19:51:06
Message Number 11139

I assume that you're regisetered on BC. As soon as Oden gets his U/D 
area straightened out, I'll UL the term I have.
SEE YA!
Night Owl
===========

From: MAX                 
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Im disgusting  
Date & Time: 01/10/91 18:23:28
Message Number 11142

> So, tell me, where did you get the handle, Thumper?  Disney?
 
Uh oh, not the great handle debate again.
 
> Do you have another friend called "Flower", maybe?  Hmmm...
 
The "hmmm" could depend on whether or not the Flower in question is
female, and whether or not rabbits believe in cross-species dating.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: I'm baaaaaack  
Date & Time: 01/10/91 18:28:03
Message Number 11143

   Well, hello, and welcome back, Burney. This is a one-line message.
                /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 01/10/91 18:29:51
Message Number 11144

>The one is of NO *&$@%!! utility without the other.
    
   Unless you're using a Telebit Trailblazer...
           /Dragonfly/
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/10/91 19:06:51
Message Number 11145

>  Rosebud!
 
Acne, I said Acne!  I've got a bad case of acne!
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BURNEY              
Subject: I'm baaaaaack  
Date & Time: 01/10/91 19:09:21
Message Number 11146

Welcome back dude.  Good to see your at 1200.  BTW, if I met you at
Pentacon, nice to meet ya.  If not, your still a damned fine figment of
my imagination.  (sorry, but that day was confusing, what with throwing
Wolverine into the pool, him shooting out windows, millions of games of
Lemmings, Front 242 and John Tesh's "Brain Dead Weasels."  Not to 
mention to Led Zepplin laser show after that.)
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: bbs            
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:03:42
Message Number 11147

I've been on Zimmcomm BBS.  They can use both 40 or 80.  I /used/ to    
have a C64 but I grew up into the 128.  80 Column is much better.  Now
I'm looking for a couple of 81's.  I also think Courts of Chaos is a 
commodore board.  If so, you should be able to get the 40 column there
too.  BTW  Zimmcomm is a multiline system.  The numbers are 924-0499, 
921-1148, 921-1412, 921-1912.  One of those lines are for 2400-9600
baud.  I dont know which one.  Just try'm.  Good Luck.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:17:48
Message Number 11148

>Grrrr....Y'know it would be nice to A) find oneand B) have it be good..
.....
I've got one of those 80 column programs for the 64.  Yes it is not very
good either.  The reason for that is because the text goes thru the 
graphics chip.  It also loads into ML.  I tried loading the 80 column
program and then loading the term program on top.  All f it would load,
but part of it was overwritten.  We all can guess what happened then....
it didnt work.  If you can get someone (like turtle) who knows more 
about ml/6502 programming,  then they may be able to alter the starting
and ending addresses so they dont overwrite each other.  In theory, it 
should work.  I have the 128 now so I dont need to fool around with that
anymore.  If you get one working, lemme know, I'd be interested in
running it up to see how it works.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: I'm baaaaaack  
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:27:30
Message Number 11149

Boy did I miss a good party.  No, you and I never met...unless you were 
at turtles warm-up RufusconII party.  I was there for a short while.  
I'm the one who brought the chips and pop.  
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: ROBERTO             
Subject: bbs            
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:32:20
Message Number 11150

Hello.  Take a look at message # 11147 from me to beatle.  In the 
message, you should find some answers to a few of your questions.  If 
not, leave me a specific question and I'll give you a really stupid 
answer if I cant give you the facts.  BTW.  You can still call any other
BBS.  You will just get the messages in 40 column format.  Although you 
probably figured that out by now.  After all you probably will get this 
in 40 coulmn.  I've used the 64 on this board for quite a while.  I just
recently went to the 128.
===========

From: NIGHTHAWK           
To: MAX                 
Subject: nothing        
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:44:02
Message Number 11151

  That's him.  If you've got a Zapper or Oakley on here, they're his 
too, Toitle.
===========

From: NIGHTHAWK           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:54:20
Message Number 11152

 HAHAH. That was a good episode. Seen the SNL parody of Citizen Kane?
 
   BTW, "Rock n' Roll" (LZep) is great to listen to when you're in an
F/A-18 Interceptor flying at 40,960 feet, closing in on some MIG's 
attacking AF-1
===========

From: NIGHTHAWK           
To: POETRY LOVERS       
Subject: CofC           
Date & Time: 01/10/91 23:59:42
Message Number 11153

  To poetry lovers, most of the poetry I've written in the past 10 years
will be on CofC within a month. I got some heavy duty stuff in there, 
like Ode to Battle of Evermore, a sonnet I wrote 2 days ago between my 
book writing.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: MAX                 
Subject: Im disgusting  
Date & Time: 01/11/91 15:32:03
Message Number 11154

Not at all what I was implying.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 01/11/91 15:32:43
Message Number 11155

TS>...NO...use...
DF>Unless ... Telebit Trailblazer...
 
Hmmm?  Come again?
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 01/11/91 20:24:56
Message Number 11156

>Only $140, hell. Why not?
 
No earthly reason /I/ can think of. And just think, you'll be able
to pollute at 150 miles per, too...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: hey!           
Date & Time: 01/11/91 20:25:51
Message Number 11157

>I don't suppose anyone out there has access to a XENIX (or UNIX)
>based BBS?
 
Try giving SOTA a call; they're running Magpie under Unix and might be
able to help you out. And just think, you could always run Opus...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: hmmm           
Date & Time: 01/11/91 20:27:40
Message Number 11158

>Do you know Mike Greenawald?
 
Now, now. Play nice.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/11/91 20:31:56
Message Number 11159

Turtle doesn't /do/ 6502 machine language programming.
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/11/91 21:27:22
Message Number 11160

"You can't do this to me! I'm rich! I'm important! I'm a REPUBLICAN!"
            /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Telebit        
Date & Time: 01/11/91 21:29:48
Message Number 11161

TS>Hmmm?   Come again?
    
   It's a long story. To shorten it up, Turtle, Rufus, and I met some
California furries, and one of them was discussing a new modem he was
the head designer for. Anyway, we were joking that the thing had 
enough extra memory and CPU power on it that we could bypass having
a computer -- just run your BBS off the modem itself.
            /Dragonfly/
===========

From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/11/91 21:33:34
Message Number 11162

   I used to do 6502 programming on an Atari 800... don't know how
much good that will do you.  If you have a technical reference manual
lying around (that is, how the computer physically writes to disks
the machine language programs...), I'd be willing to give it a shot.
   (Sure! I LOVE relocating code in memory. I'm lying through my
teeth.)
              /Dragonfly/
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/11/91 23:10:26
Message Number 11163

I remember you said that.  However I thought you might be able to help
find anl alter an address.  Thats all.
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: prg            
Date & Time: 01/11/91 23:12:34
Message Number 11164

All that is not needed.  All you have to do is find the starting and
ending address for the term prg and the 80 column prg.  After locating 
them, alter them so they dont overwrite each other and then re save them
just like any other file.  I dont have the utility to list a ml prg. so
the address can be found.  I dont think you need to find out HOW the 
computer writes to disk a ml prg and all that stuff.  
===========

From: TIBERIUS            
To: ALL                 
Subject: Greetings      
Date & Time: 01/12/91 10:51:05
Message Number 11165

Greetings one and all, from a new user to the system. Are there any
rules or anti-venomous methods to abide by here? I plan on being here
for a while, so I guess I'll need some help getting started in the
'topics of choice' around the board.. Anyway, nice to meet all of you.
                                            Tiberius
===========

From: BURNEY              
To: ALL                 
Subject: /              
Date & Time: 01/12/91 22:33:23
Message Number 11166

Well there doesnt seem to be much activity going on today.  Only one
more message after I logged off /last/ night.  What's going on.  
Everyone asleep or what?
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BURNEY              
Subject: I'm baaaaaack  
Date & Time: 01/13/91 01:18:51
Message Number 11167

>unless you were at turtles warm-up RufusconII party...
 
What's a RufusCon without the Official Florida Furry Object of 
harrasment?  Well, then I did meet you.  Hello..
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Telebit        
Date & Time: 01/13/91 01:22:04
Message Number 11168

>...Turtle, Rufus, and I met some California furries...
 
I, did I know?  Great, not only I'm I going blind, missing big hunks
of my recent memory, I'm going off to places without knowing it.
 
AND, I can spell now like know, and know like now, know what I mean now?
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/13/91 08:08:56
Message Number 11170

> Acne, I said Acne!  I've got a bad case of acne!
 
  Elmyra, you are Montana Max's girlfriend.
  I aaaammm?
  That's the rumor.
  What?
  That you're Montana Max's girlfriend.
  I aaaammm?
 
  Or: Put down the sword, Toshiro (from "Animaniacs!"
 
  And as long as we're talking about funny quotes (were we?)... last 
night they had Vanilla (ECHH!) Ice, who's song "Ice Ice Baby" borrows 
VERY heavily from an old David Bowie song. They played the song at the 
beginning of "Weekend Update" and Dennis Miller said: "God, I love Bowie
... Y'know, he wrote that song 10 years ago, and the best thing about it
is that it's timeless. I bet it could be a hit today."
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: bbs            
Date & Time: 01/13/91 08:13:47
Message Number 11171

> Courts of Chaos... Zimmcomm...
 
  I'm on courts, and it runs on an Amiga (I guess you could call that a 
Commodore board), and it does conform to your terminal, which isn't a
feature of a lot of IBM BBSes. You have to look at a word wrapped screen
with half on one side and half at the end of the last line.
 
  BTW, Zimmcomm is private, or something like that. I tried logging on, 
but it told me a user had to "sponsor" me. I don't need it anyway, I 
only wanted to read an echo which I get off Jos' Lounge.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/13/91 08:19:24
Message Number 11172

> "You can't do this to me! I'm rich! I'm important! I'm a REPUBLICAN!"
 
  Or: "You can't do this to me! Ther're laws to protect the rich, you
know!!"
 
  Or a good one from Plucky on "Dream Date Game": "Can I trade my date 
in for cash?"
===========

From: BARTMAN             
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: yo             
Date & Time: 01/13/91 11:45:35
Message Number 11173

Hey Tiberius welcome to the system , I am rather new to BBSing myself. T
his is the first time that I have actually been to this BBS though.  Any
way just leave me lots of mail.  
See you around,
						                Bartman
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:44:55
Message Number 11174

Changing the address a program loads to also involves changing a
whole lot of stuff in the program itself: jump addresses, data
storage addresses, etc. Moving a machine-language program generally
involves doing a /lot/ of work with a debugger, and a lot of time.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: prg            
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:46:29
Message Number 11175

>All you have to do is find the starting and ending address for the
>term prg and the 80 column prg. After locating them, alter them so
>they dont overwrite each other...
 
...and the program you move stops working. If you move the program by,
say, 200 bytes, then suddenly all the branch instructions will be off
by 100 bytes, any internal data buffers will not be where the program
expects them to be, data storage areas will be in the wrong place, etc.
A machine language program jumps to memory addresses, not to labels or
line numbers or whatever. So if the program jumps to a subroutine at
address 7FB0, say, when you move the program it will still jump to
address 7FB0--and Heaven only knows what will actually /be/ there
when it arrives.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: Greetings      
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:50:13
Message Number 11176

>Are there any rules or anti-venomous methods to abide by here?
 
No direct attacks on other users. (Note, however, that to attack a
user's IDEAS is not the same thing as to attack another USER, and is
certainly permitted and in some cases encouraged.) Do not take offense
at another user's posts when it is not clear that the offense was
intended. Other than that, this system is fairly relaxed and informal;
there are no specific rules concerning language (except that you keep
it rational; nobody likes to read messages with a print density of
four profanities per inch), or topics for discussion, or any of that
sort of bureaucratic doo-doo (to borrow an expression from our
illustrious leader). Welcome aboard!
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BURNEY              
Subject: /              
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:55:59
Message Number 11177

>Everyone asleep or what?
 
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: bbs            
Date & Time: 01/13/91 14:57:40
Message Number 11178

ZimmComm is actually semi-private, due to a few small problems John was
having with the Feds watching his system. If he knows you or can get
someone he knows to vouch for you, he'll give you an account, but he
doesn't want too many people he doesn't know lurking around and speaking
into microphones. S'nothing personal.
===========

From: OPUS                
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: hey!           
Date & Time: 01/13/91 17:51:14
Message Number 11179

(ack... TAB doesn't work!!).. umm.. actually I can give you the number 
of several but there all in columbus Ohio......
 
				                                               Opus
===========

From: ODEN                
To: TURTLE              
Subject: 80 col 64 term.
Date & Time: 01/13/91 18:39:08
Message Number 11181

An easier way to get an 80 col terminal would be to find a small term
that is written in basic, and just put the terminal as a gosub in the 
80 col thingie, or put it befor or after the 80 col converter. I 
believe 'Run Term' would work. by the way, my BBS supports commodore 64
and also 40 col. and 2400 baud. 923-2862
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: NIGHT OWL           
Subject: Hamsters...    
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:04:58
Message Number 11182

>Hamster things...
   Welp if you wanted to know about the Hamster thing, It's basically an
infantile response that is used as a last ditch attempt at humor.
When the Replys slow down, you can always boost the attention span of
the readers by tossin' in a few Hamster Jokes. They're pretty sick, nut
oops scuse me, but they work for me!
                                    Snarf!
                                    Thumper One
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: smurfs         
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:16:29
Message Number 11183

It is a little known fact that Smurf toys replicate themselves in the
same manner as public officials, just like most bacteria.
  Let one smurf into your home and you will soon find that there are
Dozens. The best way to control this is to teach your child to play fun 
games with them , like:
 
Smurf War tribunal
Mr Smurf visits the Toaster Oven.
  or for those of you with a little swist on the kilter:
Smurfette visits the Land of Raunchy Rotory Disk Sanders.
Smurf Friction of inclined hot plates.
      It ain't hard to find decent games for Jr.
                            snarf!
                             Thumper One
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Huh?           
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:38:33
Message Number 11184

Please Tell me Where This Hostility Came from? I don't recall the post
you mentioned. "UBAFTM" ? I probably should remember what that Stands 
for but I can't. What'd I do?
          Geeeeeeez give a guy a break.
                                     Thumper One
oh and:
>Where did you get your handle, Thumper? Disney? Do you have a friend 
>Called "Flower", Maybe? Hmmm...
 
   My handle Comes From a School Nickname I had in Highschool. It has to
do with a style of Bass Guitar. I happened to be Slapping and Popping
around the fretboard during a free period, and Some friends noticed it.
Hence, Thumper. There was a BBs'er named Thumper Already, So I placed a
"One" in back of it. No I didn't get it from Disney, But I don't really
mind the connection, And yes, I DO have a friend named "Flower".
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: MAX                 
Subject: Cross Species  
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:47:47
Message Number 11185

>whether or not rabbits believe in cross-species dating.
   We do. We have to keep our Multiplacation skills at peak levels, so
we some times take on a logistical problem, like Flowers.
           She was very sweet actually.
                                         Thumper One
===========

From: THUMPER 1           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Pentacon.      
Date & Time: 01/13/91 19:51:00
Message Number 11186

Yes this is a little late. I'm catching up on my mail, bear(Grrr)with me
 
  The Biggest Rush for me at the meeting was sittin in a dark  laser
light show, and have a quiet lull between songs.
    Suddenly Rocky's voice is heard! He Shout "PENTACON!!!!"
 And The Other Pentaconers Answer back with this ROAR!!!!!
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!
  Phew! Wild, truly Wild.
                            Thumper One
===========

From: MAX                 
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Im disgusting  
Date & Time: 01/13/91 21:18:24
Message Number 11187

> Not at all what I was implying.
 
I know, but you're fun to harrass.
===========

From: NIGHT OWL           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: humor          
Date & Time: 01/13/91 23:42:24
Message Number 11188

despite my not fuly understanding the hamster thingy, I can add some-
thing every now and then. I must admit though, that the Hamstercam was 
pretty good, i would like to see the tape sometime.
 
Hamsters make a nice midnight snack for me, it's a shame that they don't
glow in the dark for easier catching.
SEE YA!
Night Owl
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Pentacon.      
Date & Time: 01/14/91 17:10:56
Message Number 11189

>...Biggest Rush...And The Other Pentaconers Answer back with this
>ROAR!!!!!
 
I found it funny that people who had no idea what Pentacon was were
also screaming back.
 
BTW, do you know when PF The Wall will be playing?  We should all go 
see that.
 
        ..."Brain Dead Weasels."
===========

From: TIBERIUS            
To: BARTMAN             
Subject: ho, yo         
Date & Time: 01/14/91 19:41:05
Message Number 11191

Well, I am not really new to BBSing, just new to the system. Anyway, it
is nice to hear from another user. Lots of mail will be forthcoming as
long as I can think of something to say.
===========

From: TIBERIUS            
To: TURTLE              
Subject: thanks         
Date & Time: 01/14/91 19:45:20
Message Number 11192

OK, Turtle, gothca and thanks. No direct attacks on other users, right
(putting away flaming arrows, stowing SCUD missle launcher, etc.  hehe).
   
Now, please tell me one other thing....How did you manage to quote my 
message?? I looked high and low for info on message writing and such
in the help sections here and found nothing. Am I looking in the wrong 
place??
  
Thanks.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: UBAFTM         
Date & Time: 01/14/91 22:53:39
Message Number 11195

...is Uncle Bob's Alligator Farm and Tofu Museum, just off interstate
813.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: thanks         
Date & Time: 01/14/91 22:55:54
Message Number 11196

Well, that's one of the neat things about PBBS: No message quoting!
Ya gotta type it in by hand. PBBS is noteworthy mostly for what it
DOESN'T have: no word-whap, no quoting, no full-screen editor, no
networking capability, no life. But it works, it's efficient, and best
of all, it's FREE, so there you go.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/14/91 22:58:13
Message Number 11197

...who here is up on his Arabic? Looks like we may get to see the next
world war in our lifetimes, kiddies, and some of us may end up seeing it
firsthand... ya all ready to tell the nice draft board why you don't
wanna go?
===========

From: DIONYSUS            
To: ALL                 
Subject: YO!            
Date & Time: 01/15/91 04:14:03
Message Number 11198

	Hey!  I'm in Gainesville, dudes!  Yep - I'm finally going to a real 
school after two years at MCC.  15 hours at the University of Florida
seems to be tougher on me than I first thought it would be (hence the 4
o'clock nights), but I hope I can handle it.  Also, I'm calling long
distance, so I need to get going.  Just wanted to check in and explain
my absence.  I'll get back to you when I find a computer to taker over
when I come down to visit (the weekend of the 19th, as a matter of
fact).  so long for now.
===========

From: TIBERIUS            
To: TURTLE              
Subject: i see          
Date & Time: 01/15/91 13:20:11
Message Number 11199

>what it DOESN'T have: no word-whap, no quoting, no full-screen editor,
>no networking capability, no life.
  
>and best of all, it's FREE
  
Well, I guess ol' Janis Joplin was right then...."Freedom's just another
word for nothin' left to lose..."
  
I think I get the hang of the quote system now. Just had to try it out
for myself!!
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/15/91 18:03:01
Message Number 11201

>...who here is up on his Arabic?
 
Well, other than being 25% Arabic, I wouldn't know diddly about Abdul.
 
>...ya all ready to tell the nice draft board why you don't wanna go?
 
Well, I'm kinda pissed that I can't get off for stuttering.  I mean
it /is/ a handicap, it's a pain in the ass, and I don't get diddly for
it.  We had a discussion about how to get out of the war, and the best
bet was going to visit one of Ken's friends in Barbados.
 
SIGH....
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RUFUSCON       
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:23:55
Message Number 11202

T>  No earthly reason...
   
No pun intended?
  
Y'know, actually, what I'm more concerned about is not going 150 miles
an hour, but getting from 0 to 60 in a very, very short time.  Grrr.
I can't wait to waste my first Mustang.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: hmmm           
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:25:57
Message Number 11203

T>Now, now. Play nice.
  
Oops.  Apologies.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:26:40
Message Number 11204

T> ...doesn't /do/ 6502 machine language programming.
  
But why not?   /I/ do.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Telebit        
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:28:15
Message Number 11205

Ahhh.  Thanks, at least, for letting me in on the story...
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:29:14
Message Number 11206

Relocating code in memory?  No sweat, on an Apple.  Just make sure that
your code is less than 2 or 3K...then get Merlin, (the Sourceror) 
decompile, translate, re-write, recompile...(make sure that you have 
at LEAST 30 or 40 books with cross references to all memory locations
that could possibly exist, and keep track of all your indirect 
addressing).  Nothing any genuis or Z-System user couldn't do.
Well, I dunno...maybe a Z-System user couldn't....  That might also
explain why one wouldn't....  Hmmm?
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: Greetings      
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:35:00
Message Number 11207

Welcome.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:36:45
Message Number 11208

Vanilla Ice?  Vanilla Ice is a *&%#@!! copy cat!   I mean, hell, 
the song was fairly adequate rap...but please, come up with an original
tune.  Too many rappers steal (yes, STEAL STEAL STEAL I meant steal)
words and parts of songs from other famous established artists.  Ice
Baby  STOLE (STOLE STOLE STOLE) the opening part of "Under Pressure
and I don't care what he says about "Oh, it's different, thiers goes, 
Dum Dum Dum DaDaDum Dum and mine goes DaDaDum Dum Dum DaDaDum Dum", it's
just incredibly obvious that it's stolen.  How about Hammer?  Took from
Rick James "Superfreak" (which was no prize to start with, but it was 
/his/) and made a mint!  He was nobody before he did that.   Vanilla 
Ice was nobody before he stole (STOLE STOLE STOLE) from David Bowie 
and Queen.
  
And as long as I'm up here, how about Warrant, "I Saw Red"...bears a 
striking resemblance to "I Don't Mind At All"...
"I saw red..."  "I don't mind..."
"I guess it must be magic..."  "Time for talking's over now, "
(STOLE STOLE STOLE)             (Original idea)
 
Grr.  And Ice Baby (oh gimme a break, what a /name/!) doesn't even come
from "Inner City" like he said; what a liar!  Liar and thief (THIEF THIE
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RULZ           
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:49:57
Message Number 11209

Sorry, I just wanted to add something to your post on posting...
 
I would also like to stress COHERENCE...we had a user who was just short
of completely befuddling when he posted.  He lacked any direction or
point to his posts and often confused everyone he posted to.  Carrying
on a conversation with him was often futile.
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: OPUS                
Subject: hey!           
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:53:20
Message Number 11210

Well, thanks for the thought, anyway...
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Huh?           
Date & Time: 01/16/91 20:55:21
Message Number 11211

UBAFTM - Uncle Bobs Alligator Farm and Tofu Museum 
 
Uh, I really *really* owe you a BIG apology...I confused you with 
Erling...SORRY!
 
A bass player!  Ya hear that, guys?  JonBoy and the Biohazards...
 
I used to know a guy who knew someone who was gay who had that nickname,
"Thumper".  Three guesses as to how he got that moniker.
  
I thought that you had attacked the american military (verbally) and 
that is one thing that REALLY riles me.  (Erling had.)  Combined with
that handle (which I had only heard that nickname once before)...I had
plenty of reason...cept I was wrong.  Sorry.
 
What kind of cover music do you prefer?
===========

From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: MAX                 
Subject: Im disgusting  
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:04:02
Message Number 11212

Well, I was wrong anyway.  
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: ALL                 
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:10:50
Message Number 11213

"...totally obliterated..." - Peter Jennings
 
"...uh, planes that, um...are in, ah, on....the...ground, ah, er,...
in Saudi Arabia, um..."  -  Peter Jennings
 
"...that its completely your call, it's totally up to you, if you want
you can break off from us any time.  Its completely your call.  [While
the newsman in Saudi Arabia looks around nervously]"... - Peter Jennings
 
"...to our newsman in Baghdad...can we or can we not...ok, it...er...
seems that the, ah, feed from...er...Baghdad has been, um...cut..."
- Peter Jennings  [blink, blink]
 
  Nuke Iran.  Now.  Quickly.  - The Specialist.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: ALL                 
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:16:58
Message Number 11214

Abdulla Akbar!  - Saddam Hussien
 
(God is Great ... )  Oh, please.  Gimme a break.  Your god couldn't even
give you a decent climate to live in.  
  
Actually, I can understand why they are all in such a piss poor mood ove
there...if I had to live in the desert with sand up my underwear all the
time I imagine that I'd be pretty pissed a majority of the time.
 
  Y'all ready for the draft?  How many of you will be pussies and try to
dodge a draft?  How many of you stood outside (or wished your could) 
chanting "No blood for oil!"?   How many of you like that oldy moldy
(with the mold brushed off) "All we are saying"? 
  
  I passed a crowd of protesters today standing in front of that wierd
Ringling sculpture on 41.  I wanted to stop and make a sign that said,
Nuke Iran Now! and stand out there next to them.  Pinkos.
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From: MAX                 
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:40:34
Message Number 11215

If you have a machine language program without source code, relocating
it on ANY system is fairly difficult.
   As for Z-System, it depends on	 what source you have the file as.
If it's a Microsoft .REL file (the standard relocating assembler output,
also found for regular CP/M, TRSDOS and MS-DOS), relocating it is
pretty easy.
   Of course, you can always write a routine to be relocatable, but the
bigger the routine is, the more difficult it is....
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From: MAX                 
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/16/91 21:43:23
Message Number 11216

Modern Politics, lesson one: you can support the soldiers without
supporting the government's reason for sending them into battle. 
 
Question	 for you, Specialist: why is America over there?  "No Blood for
Oil" is right, since we only get 5% of our oil from Iraq and Kuwait
combined.  We must be fighting for something else.  To get Hussein out
of power?  Unlikely -- he's been there for quite some time, you know,
and we were tacitly supporting him when Iran was the great enemy.  To
"liberate Kuwait"?  Why bother?  Kuwait was created by a bureaucrat in
Britain, who arbitrarily broke it off of Iran after World War II; they
have a monarchy which has a record on	 human rights only slightly better
than Iraq's (and a less modern outlook on life than Hussein's); and to
top it all off, they weren't American allies to begin with.
 
If the premise that we must liberate Kuwait is correct, then attacking
now isn't a bad thing.  Hussein's response to sanctions has been to dig
in deeper; his response to all diplomatic entreaties was to tour his
troops and shout jingoistic slogans at American reporters.
 
The question, therefore, is whether that premise is valid.  Those who
disagree with the President are not "pinkos," Dave, and if you honestly
believe that questioning authority is anti-American, you're even more
stuck in the '60s than the most recalcitrant bare-footed, tie-dyed
hippie singing "Give Peace a Chance" in front of the White House.
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: BURNEY              
Subject: prg            
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:02:01
Message Number 11217

Dear Burney,
   Ha! Changing the addresses of a machine language program is a lot
more complex than just changing the starting and stopping addresses.
That would be something like changing the line numbers of a BASIC
program without changing the line numbers the GOTO and GOSUBs talk
about... but much, much worse.
              /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: Greetings      
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:04:45
Message Number 11218

Well, hello and welcome to you, Tiberius! The only real rules about
the debates here: attack ideas, not individuals. And no peeing in the
pool.
              /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: smurfs         
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:09:30
Message Number 11219

   Send the smurfs to Riyadh! Make THEM fight our war for us!
             /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: TURTLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:14:21
Message Number 11220

Actually, one of the best things to do if you ARE drafted, want to
stay entirely within the law, and want to have a really fun time
with the U.S. government...
    
   If and when a draft shows up, and if your name comes up, and you
don't have a good excuse not to sign up, sign up with LOTS and LOTS
of draft boards. As many as you possibly can. It might be illegal to
not show up if you're drafted, but they can't stop an over-ambitious
person, can they?
             /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: RUFUS               
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:19:12
Message Number 11221

(Aren't you on of us one-eyed folk? That's sufficient.) Barbados is
a nice island, but I still have lots of friends in Mexico. 
               /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:21:05
Message Number 11222

There are some programs which make relocating code easier... but it's
never a really easy process.
          /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:23:10
Message Number 11223

Nuke Iran?!?  So far THEY haven't done anything!!! 
          /Dragonfly/
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From: DRAGONFLY           
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/16/91 22:24:00
Message Number 11224

Hi, there! I was one of those protesters, further up on 41. You might
have seen my sign: "Give sanctions six more months!"
    
   I doubt anyone could call me "pinko." I've worked for the Senate
Republican Conference for three months. I just feel that the U.S.
could have saved itself a lot of truble by keeping the sanctions for
another six months -- and letting Iraqis destroy the Iraqi government.
              /Dragonfly/
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From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/17/91 06:59:11
Message Number 11225

> ya all ready to tell the nice draft board why you don't wanna go?
 
  I'm all ready to show the draft board that I'd suck at any position 
they'd put me at as a land soldier. But, if they don't mind training me 
to use the technology, I wouldn't mind. 
 
  But, don't you think you're exaggerating when you say "looks like 
we're gonna see the third world war in our lifetimes, kiddies"?? Are you
THAT sure this is going to become WWIII??
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From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/17/91 07:03:31
Message Number 11226

> I wouldn't know diddly about Abdul...
 
  Forget it... I was trying to relate Paula Abdul to that, and I dunno 
how...
 
  BTW, did you know they sent "wild weasels" out to Iraq last night??
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From: BEATLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/17/91 07:06:25
Message Number 11227

  I share your sentiments, but I never saw anyone express them that way
... you've proved that it pissed you off, for sure!! 
 
  BTW, two facts that you might want to add to your databank on this 
topic. A) M.C. Hammer (at least one of the better rappers) has been 
paying royalties to Rick James for the use of "SuperFreak". B) Vanilla 
Ice has at least three different mixes of "Ice Ice Baby", and depending 
on which one you hear, there is a varying amount of sampled music from 
the song. One version even takes an extended part from "Under Pressure" 
(at least 10 seconds)
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From: BEATLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/17/91 07:11:32
Message Number 11228

> [various quotes from] - Peter Jennings
 
> Nuke Iran.  Now.  Quickly.  - The Specialist.
 
 First of all, I've found that while ABC's coverage has been reasonably 
comprehensive (they were the first to report it also), the whole thing 
has been REALLY hectic and Peter Jennings is NOT handling it well.
 
 Second of all, I talked to someone about what was going on in Iraq. 
Someone else asked why not drop nuclear bombs. If the fallout were to 
drift in any direction, it's going to infuriate some country or it's 
going to kill our troops. BTW, did you actually mean "Nuke Iran." or did
you mean Iraq?
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: I'm Back       
Date & Time: 01/17/91 18:46:42
Message Number 11229

Hi, Scott Steel is back. Ihear that Erling, and others have been
looking for a fight.     Well.
    HAVE AT YOU !!!!
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: MAX                 
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 01/17/91 18:53:39
Message Number 11230

M> Depends on the cat in question.....
    
I bet you like Siamese cats.  I mean, consider the challenge they love 
to fight.  And no, that's not the voice of experience so don't even 
start  with that twisted mind of yours. Besides I don't like cats.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 01/17/91 18:57:42
Message Number 11231

T>Hey, YOU thought of it! Do you always think of sex when someone 
mentions cat addictions?
   
I think of sex constantly. An addiction maybe.  But not necessarily 
for cats.  Why do you have any  (cat) skeletons in your closet?
Are you going to let the cat out of the bag?
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: WAR            
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:08:50
Message Number 11232

Rufus  you're just chicken. PERIOD.  Any questions? I think I'll just
refer to you as Rufus DD, Rufus Draft Dodger.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: 440 Engines    
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:11:42
Message Number 11233

Well maybe you can now waste 4 cylinders but you still need work on 
that car of yours.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:17:58
Message Number 11234

Go you... Yesterday I saw the first five seconds of the /new/ version
of Give Peace a Chance"  That is before I changed the channel. But  
maybe Hussien will come to his sense and even release a song of his own
"Give Me a Chance" 
   Here let's see if I can help you see it..
         
                      Give Me a Chance
    
All I am saying is give me a chance.
All I am saying is give me a chance. 
 
Everybody's talking Sanctions, and oil, and Kuwait,
talking about factions, chemical warfare, and other dumb shit.
And the U.S. is talking bombings, retreats, and terrorism.
     
All I am saying is we have given Iraq enough time to cooperate with the
sanctions.  He's robbed Kuwait of billions dollars of gold, taken 
traffic signals and toilets.  Tortured the men and raped the women.
Everybody cries No Blood for Oil and that we have no right being there.
Well he had no right to ransack Kuwait.  
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: smurfs         
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:37:09
Message Number 11235

D> Send the smurfs to Riyadh! Make THEM fight our war for us!
    
Well, in the first place the smurfs can't even rid themselves of a 
bumbling idoit named Gergamel.  
But on the other hand they probably /would/ fight better than you.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/17/91 19:42:46
Message Number 11236

D> Nuke Iran?!?
  
Well that was probably a typo but the Specialist still can spell "their"
right either.  But if we targeted the warhead right we could take them 
both out with one shot. Effective and cost efficient.. What a bargain!
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: MAX                 
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/17/91 20:02:18
Message Number 11237

First lesson:  Loose your patronizing attitude, and you might find me
much more receptive to your reasoning.
 
Why are we in Kuwait?  Couple of reasons.  First, naked aggression, left
unchecked, could be disastrous later down the road.  Second, I don't 
know if you are aware of it, but this is a free country...naturally, we
hate to see other countries get subjected to dictatorship.  (That is,
at least, *I* do.  I don't know if *you* give a damn.)   This Hussein,
he is dangerous. 
  Actually, I am not so concerned about Kuwait and it's lot as much as
I am about Hussein.  This is not to say that I don't care about Kuwait,
I *do*.  But I am more concerned about Hussein.  Kuwait, while not 
extremely humanitarian in it's own right, doesn't use chemical weapons
indiscriminately, and doesn
indiscriminately, and doesn't go around invading other countries. 
  Besides, the man is incredibly arrogant.  (That's my personal opinion,
and yes, it's another of *my* reasons why he should be neutralized.)
  And of course, there is the humanitarian issue.  Brutal, yes.  The
man is simply a cold bastard.  He is a king of propoganda, and runs a
puppet parliment.  He is is own administration.  He takes over Kuwait,
simply for the sake of doing so, and then claims that it belonged to him
to begin with!  Bull!  That'd be like England reclaiming all the states
on the east coast, and saying that they belonged to them.  Bull. 
 Pinkos.  The term is "Ad Hominem".  Actually, I used the term because 
I wanted to insult the people who were there, and that seemed the mose
(SP most) fitting I could find.   Those people didn't support the 
government.  Why not?
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From: RUFUS               
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/17/91 22:51:30
Message Number 11238

>(Aren't you on of use one-eyed folk?)
 
Nope, I represent the speech impaired section of the furry group.
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From: RUFUS               
To: BEATLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/17/91 22:53:43
Message Number 11239

Abdul is just your stereotypical Arab name, kinda like Tyrone for
afro-americans.  Yes, I was aware that they have "Wild Weasels" in
the middle east.  It's a recon plane if I'm not mistaken.  Four or
five people told me that.  I guess my fascination with the weasel has
gotten around.  What's even neater is the F-111 Aardvark.
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From: RUFUS               
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: WAR            
Date & Time: 01/17/91 22:59:17
Message Number 11240

>Rufus, you're just chicken. PERIOD.
 
Actually, my comments about going to Barbados were only half-hearted,
and I'm always joking about my stuttering, so you probably interpreted
the message in a way that it wasn't met to be.  Regarding actually 
going, I really don't know if I could kill someone.  In self-defense
sure, but would that always be the case?
 
>Any questions?
 
Is this on any topic, or the war in particular?
 
>I think I'll just refer to you as Rufus DD, Rufus Draft Dodger.
 
Umm...okay.  But I don't see those prematurly pointing fingers
signing up to go over there.
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From: RUFUS               
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/17/91 23:05:28
Message Number 11241

>But if we targeted the [nuclear] warhead right we could take them
>both out with one shot.  Effective and cost efficient.. What a bargain!
 
Yep, and with it you get free fallout, /and/ several million tons of
glass.  But don't order yet, just look what else you get...
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: WAR            
Date & Time: 01/17/91 23:19:55
Message Number 11242

R>But I don't see those prematurely pointing fingers signing up to go
over there.
    
True, like you, to a degree, I am also 'handicapped' to an extent I have
a torn ligament in my spinal cord.  Which means they won't take me. 
I'd be medically profiled as unable to perform certain duties, and 
therefore disqualified.  But if I could go, I would.  My older brother 
is in the Navy.  I also would enlist for the Navy if I could. No I would
not want to be a ground-pounder.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: RUFUS               
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/17/91 23:25:39
Message Number 11243

R>Yep, and with it you get free fallout,/and/ several millions tons of
glass. But don't order yet, just look what else you get...
   
THAT RIGHT!  Along with these other fine bonuses you retardation, 
mutatios, and possibly help China lower their population. (China has
one of the biggest population problems in the world.) Tells Dan Rufus 
(Rather) what other prizes follow.  (Hahahahaha Smart-ass sneer)
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: Orig. of handle
Date & Time: 01/17/91 23:40:37
Message Number 11244

Tiberius welcome to aLTER rEALITY.  Where did you get your handle or is
that your real name?  Tiberius sounds familiar, like it came from STAR
TREK or STAR TREK :TNG. 
And again welcome. Word to the wise; if you're going to debate an issue
make sure you know what you're talking about. I can tell you from
experience, it's not good to throw caution to the wind and not be able 
to back yourself up.  As a follow BBSer advised me once. If you going 
to argue with someone, do it right.  Make sure you knock them into the
mud, it's awful hard to hit back when you're busy picking yourself
up off the ground.   Good Advice if you ask me.  Good luck. 
   *Scott Steel*
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Earth stuff    
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:13:06
Message Number 11245

>No pun intended?
 
What on earth makes you think that? :>
 
>I can't wait to waste my first Mustang.
 
It's not like you don't have twice as much engine as your average
Mustang. Oh, boy.
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:14:13
Message Number 11246

>But why not?
 
Because I like to have REGISTERS to play with, and a decently-sized
instruction set? The 6502 just doesn't do it for me...
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:15:13
Message Number 11247

>...maybe a Z-System user couldn't...
 
This particular Z-System user has done just that, without the aid of
a disassembler. Hmph.
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:16:22
Message Number 11248

Hey, don't hold back, now. What do you REALLY think about Vanilla Ice?
You're not trying to imply a cerain lack of respect for their habit of
borrowing other people's music, are you? (Rap is a peculiar musical
parasite, but at least it's not even interesting to listen to...)
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:18:24
Message Number 11249

>Nuke Iran. Now. Quickly.
 
Yeah, good idea. Maybe we should take out Iraq while we're at it.
Seriously, though, I'm not entirely convinced that that's such a
good idea...not only would it get everyone in the region really pissed
off at us, it'd also make us the A-1 target of every would-be terrorist
and crazy Iraqi with a bomb and a desire to die for Allah, and it
doesn't take too many maniacs with bombs in their backpacks to take
down Wall Street or blow people up in Times Square...
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:21:15
Message Number 11250

>H
ow manyu of you will be pussies and try to dodge the draft?
 
Meow! There is a big difference between being willing to fight for
your country and being willing to fight for the Emir of Kuwait's
country. Kuwait can go to Hell; I don't see the need to play bad cop
to Bush's good cop and blow up every two-bit foreign dictator with an
attitude. Get serious. If Saddam is truly the worst monster to come down
the pike since Ho Chi Mihn, I guess our illustrious government (you
know, the government that all patriotic Americans KNOW can do no wrong
and should ALWAYS be supported in EVERYTHING it does) shouldn't have
created him in the first place, hmm? I'm not gonna put my life on the
line for some Emir, and I'm not gonna put my life on the line because
our government found it convenient to support some goddamn maniac
like Hussein and is finding him inconvenient now.
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From: TURTLE              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:31:27
Message Number 11251

Hey, Beatle, this situation is ALREADY a world war. Yes, we're gonna see
a third world war in our lifetimes. And what's more, we can watch it
live on CNN.
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From: TURTLE              
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:33:21
Message Number 11252

>Why do you have any (cat) skeletons in your closet?
 
No. I'd like to have Nastassia Kinski in my closet, and she played a
werecat in the movie "Cat People," but that's about as close as it
gets. (Actually I'd like to have Nastassia Kinski almost anywhere; I'm
not particular.)
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/18/91 00:35:58
Message Number 11253

>Second, I don't know if you are aware of it, but this is a free
>country...naturally we hate to see other countries that are not
>democratic.
 
*snort* Yeah, yeah, right. Sure we do. Countries like Chile, say,
or Uganda, or Iran (before it went hyper-conservative), where we
work diligently to bring prosperity and freedom by supporting
bloodthirsty dictators who get off on torturing and murdering their
citizens. Uh-huh. I don't buy it. It is, like you say, a free country,
though, which means that its citizens are free to demonstrate against
war on street corners without being Communists (the technical term for
"pinkos"). (Actually, since Communism seems to be falling apart all
over the world, it7s kind of difficult to call anyone a "pinko" these
days; the number of Communists left in the world can be counted on the
fingers of one thumb. Shouldn't you be trying to come up with a better
epithet?)
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/18/91 01:31:26
Message Number 11254

T>Kuwait can go to Hell
   
Harsh words.  Seriously, Hussein had no right to march into Kuwait and 
declare it his. Period. I'm not so patriotic that I would intentionally
blind myself to what the government is doing, right or wrong. We the 
people voted Bush and Congress into their respectively positions but 
that doesn't make them immune to error and bad judgment. But you will 
find a 3X5 American Flag hanging on the livingroom wall of The 
Specialist's and my apartment. And I will personally throw out anyone 
who would like to burn it.  
  Look, I don't like war, no one does.  But the citizens of Kuwait have
just as much right to their country as anyone else would. If, by some 
remote chance, someone /was/ able to take over the U.S.A. as easily as 
Hussien took over Kuwait I'd hope like hell that another country would
get involved and help /us/.  Something has to be done to restore Kuwait.
Just because their country is small doesn't make it insignificant.(sp)
They're human beings.  And when one insane son-of-a-bitch decided he
wants to rule over more people and stole their capital reserves he 
has to be stopped.  It was his choice to ignore the United Nations 
(SPELLED out for the emphasis) sanctions.  He basically f*cked 
himself. He knew the terms. He knew what would happen if he ignored 
the sanctions.  No more time should be given, if he was going to pull 
out willingly, he should have pulled out the FIRST day the sanctions
were put into effect. END OF STORY!
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 01/18/91 01:52:09
Message Number 11255

T>Nastassia Kinski in my closet, and she played a werecat in the movie
"Cat People"
     
What, do you think I was born yesterday?  I know who she is. 
  
T> Actually I'd like to have Nastassia Kinski almost anywhere...
   
How about on an iceberg?  I bet you'd be to cold to do anything 
productive or reproductive for that matter.  :)
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: DOUGLAS QUAID       
Subject: Schwartznegger 
Date & Time: 01/18/91 04:20:23
Message Number 11256

You didn't happen to see Total Recall once too many times? Hmmm...
Just don't log-on in the future as Houser, okay?
   
Just for totally useless information it's 4:20 am and I'mwide awake for
some incredibly strange reason. And what's worse, is that I decided to 
read all the messages I haven't read since I've been off-line for so 
long. I started at #10603.  
So don't get all confused by my replies to messages written two and a 
half months ago.  
 BTW, Turtle just from what I've read this morning you have a very 
warped sense of humor, and enough brains and useless information to
baffle most people..  Remember:IF YOU CAN'T DAZZLE THEM WITH 
BRILLANCE, BAFFLE THEM WITH BULLS**T.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: PABLO               
Subject: greatest fear  
Date & Time: 01/18/91 04:29:52
Message Number 11257

P>My greatest fear is being stuck in the front row of a New Kids on the
Block concert and not being allowed to mow the brats down with a handy 
grenade. 
  
    
Not a bad idea, but get it right. It's New Fags on the Corner and 
besides I think a slow death would be more appropaite.  Any 
suggestions from our resident animal-torturer's committee.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: THUMPER 1           
Subject: Huh?           
Date & Time: 01/18/91 04:37:22
Message Number 11258

Thump -badee-thump-thump-thump-badee-thump-thump
Sorry get carried away.  Calgon to the rescue. And for those of you
who are in the twilight zone.  Remember:Calgon take me away.?
Anywho, Thumper where do you derive your handle from? Just Curious.
Also, pay attention now, I think you pretty damn funny. 
Did you catch all that? I just wanted to make sure I don't compliment
users very often (actually closer to virtually never). So bask in a 
brief ego trip.  
     
 
          You rodent furball >:)
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: Holy Grail     
Date & Time: 01/18/91 04:51:34
Message Number 11259

>Bridge scene :"What's your favorite color?"
   
"Blue, no red...aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh"
Awesome flick.  Brave Sir Robin is still mine favorite.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: SNAKEBYTE           
Subject: marriage       
Date & Time: 01/18/91 04:54:19
Message Number 11260

S> "Marriage is a mistake every man should make."-George Jessel
   
The Specialist has a button that I rather like. It reads:"Some men are 
fools, the rest are bachelors."
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: War Pigs       
Date & Time: 01/18/91 05:03:17
Message Number 11261

Shame Turtle dedicating War Pigs the Bush and Hussien. You should have
tried subliminal messages with "Give Peace A Chance" 
    For the Almighty Turtle
    
    *Scott Steel*  
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: TURTLE              
Subject: censorship     
Date & Time: 01/18/91 05:08:06
Message Number 11262

On the topic of female BBSer (see message #10766) has Humming Bird 
returned?  I've noticed most boards lack female users.
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From: TIBERIUS            
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: ok             
Date & Time: 01/18/91 15:29:47
Message Number 11263

> Welcome.
  
I like it! Precise, to the point, succinct, says it all!! Thanks!
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From: TIBERIUS            
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Greetings      
Date & Time: 01/18/91 15:32:20
Message Number 11264

Thanks, Dragonfly. I'll keep those ideas in mind. And as for peeing in 
the pool... I understand that, but being a northerner by birth, I kinda
go with the phrase we had up there...."Don't eat yellow snow."
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From: TIBERIUS            
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Orig. of handle
Date & Time: 01/18/91 15:35:11
Message Number 11265

Ah, yes, Scott! You found me out! I'm a Trekker from WAYYYYYY back. Can
even remember watching the original run of ST!! (Boy! That should date
me!) Remember the episode concerning "Nomad"? The space probe that was 
lost and ran into an alien space probe after an accident, and they used
each other as repair parts and made one new probe? The builder of the
original Nomad was a James A. Kirk, and the probe midtook Captain Kirk
for the father figure, only HE was James T. Kirs, James Tiberius Kirk.
Hence the usernsmr of mine.
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: Greetings      
Date & Time: 01/18/91 16:55:54
Message Number 11266

T> "Don't eat yellow snow"
   
Allllrrriiiggghhtt.  Man, it's been soooo long since I've heard that 
phrase. Quick, have it trademarked.  I'm a New York import myself and
that phrase brought back a lot of childhood memories. (stupid grin,
blank stare into space as the mind drifts off) 
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From: SCOTT STEEL         
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: Orig. of handle
Date & Time: 01/18/91 16:59:35
Message Number 11267

T> James Tiberius Kirk
   
Awesome, dude.  How old are you? I'm twenty-three. I've been a Trekkie 
since I was about eight years old.  
I wish you had been around for the war between Star Trek and ST:TNG
I got beaten by overwhelming odds.  It took place on this board about
4 months ago.  
There's nothing I like more than Star Trek Trivia. BTW, yes I remember 
the episode very well.  It was so awesome been Kirk told Nomad in 
engineering that It had made a mistake and thereby tricked into 
destroying itself. 
My favorite episode is the one with the Romulans.  The battle of wits
was awesome.  Playing dead in space and all that. Remember when the 
Romulan commander, at the end, told Kirk. "In another time, I could have
called you friend."? Then the poor bastard self-destructed.
  
Know any good trivia?
Here's a few for you. All from the episode where Spock got the Vulcan 
fever. 
1.)What was the name of wife-to-be?
2.)Waht was the name of the woman in charge of the ceremony?
3.)What was the name of the Challenge?
4.)What was the name of the Vulcan that his wife-to-be wanted to marry?
Just a note, spelling doesn't count. 
Good luck. 
    signed,
    A fellow Trekkie,
    Scott Steel
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/18/91 17:29:06
Message Number 11268

>And what's more, we can watch it live on CNN.
 
Yep, even the military is getting information from CNN.  Too bad our
school decided to make the channel CNN is on a closed circuit channel.
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From: BURNEY              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: I'm baaaaaack  
Date & Time: 01/18/91 20:04:21
Message Number 11269

> Well, then I did meet you.  Hello..
Hello
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From: BURNEY              
To: BEATLE              
Subject: 80column term  
Date & Time: 01/18/91 20:06:41
Message Number 11270

Yes I know about being sponsered.  I had to have someone recommend me.  
I forgot about that.  If you'd like, I'll do the same for you.  I've not
been on ZC that long, I don't know how much my rec will do for you.  
BTW.  If you leave Night Owl a message, he might upload an 80 column 
terminal program made for the 64.  I have no idea if its any good or
not.  You'll just have to try it.  
>>>Burney<<<
PS.   HAPPY WAR DAYS TO ALL
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From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/18/91 20:14:18
Message Number 11271

Well I have not been involved in ML programming yet.  I didn't know that
However all this is not needed now.  I found someone with an 80 column
terminal program for the 64.
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From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: /              
Date & Time: 01/18/91 20:17:14
Message Number 11272

grunt...snort...fart...grunt...(roll over)..snort....ZZZzzzzzz.
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From: BURNEY              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/18/91 20:24:05
Message Number 11273

Where do I sign...where do I sign?
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: DRAGONFLY           
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:28:48
Message Number 11274

DF>I just feel that the US could have saved itself a lot of truble by 
DF>keeping the sanctions for another six months --
 
Huh?  No way!  They weren't even phasing him!  Besides, in the time that
we were doing this sanction stuff, he was busy developing nastier 
weapons.  Sure, another six months, and he might have perfected them. If
you ask me (which no one will, they don't want to hear the truth), 
waiting to get rid of Hussein was like waiting to fill a cavity...the 
longer you wait, the worse it'll get.
 
DF> -- and letting Iraqis destroy the Iraqi government.
 
What?  In a dictatorship?  That guy has them wrapped around his finger,
and any uprising he would crush with his military.  Not likely.
  
Excuse me, sir, but I believe that you may have looked at this with 
rose colored glasses.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:35:14
Message Number 11275

B> M.C. Hammer...has been paying royalties...
  
Yes, ok, but he still COPIED the song...
 
B> [Ice Baby] takes an extended part from 
 
My point exactly.  THIEF THIEF BABY....Dum Dum Dum Dum DaDaDumDum.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: BEATLE              
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:37:52
Message Number 11276

I stand corrected.  Nuke Iraq....but hell, why not Iran too?  (Never 
mind...)
 
 Air bursts usually have the least amount of fallout.  I suggest five
air bursts over Baghdad.  Four to the corners, and one in the center.
Giant steel press from heaven...WHAM!
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Rufus          
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:40:15
Message Number 11277

HEY! Leave Rufus alone.  If he wants to be a low-life scumbag pussy
draft dodger, let him!  Of course, if he is a responsible American and
goes when asked, then your assessment was inaccurate.  Actually, I have
a lot of faith in Rufus...
  
  
  
  Besides, he'll probably get a deferrment for going to college.  
(Georgia Tech!  WOO!  WOO!  WOO!)
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: 440 Engines    
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:42:49
Message Number 11278

Changed the oil today...now I can beat 6 cylinders....
 
 
 
Ooooooh!  You wait.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Give me a Chanc
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:43:43
Message Number 11279

Uh, yeah.  Right.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: smurfs         
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:44:12
Message Number 11280

SS> But on the other hand, they probably /would/ fight better than you;.
 
Eh?  What was that UNPROVOKED attack all about?  
 
Careful, Scott...remember?  "Stay down, Scott!  Stay down!"
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: RUFUS               
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:47:03
Message Number 11281

B>F-4 Wild Weasle
R>F-111 Aardvark. 
  
Hmm, myself, I favor the A-10 Warthog.
  
Incidentally, I believe the Wild Weasel is an ECM craft.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: RUFUS               
Subject: WAR            
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:49:01
Message Number 11282

RUF>Umm...okay.  But I don't see those prematurly pointing fingers
RUF>signing up to go over there.
 
They wouldn't take him.  He's a cripple.  "Medical Profile", they call
'em.  Back injury, don't cha know.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:51:22
Message Number 11283

SS>(Hahahahahaha  Smart-ass[ed] sneer)
 
Still being anal retentive, I see.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Earth stuff    
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:53:30
Message Number 11284

T>...twice as much engine as your average Mustang.
 
BZZZT!  Wrong, Turtle.  The average 'Stang has a 5.0 liter, which 
equates to somewhere around 305 ci and produces about 200-220 hp.  
Combined with a rear end diff of about 4:10, and a very lightwieght
body, it's hard to beat!  
  Now, I figure with an engine that's rated for about 335 hp and is
440 ci with a 3:54 (Sure grip) diff, I should be able to do much 
better.  Unfortunately, with extra volume comes extra weight, and
my car is about 300-400 lbs heavier than a 'Stang, so it'll require
a little re-engineering...I'll keep you posted....
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/18/91 22:58:26
Message Number 11285

Ah, but having only three registers to work with makes you keep your 
code more compact...keeps you on your toes.  The more registers you 
have to work with, the more variables you have, and the lazier you get..
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: BBS            
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:00:08
Message Number 11286

T>This particular Z-System user has done...that.... Hmph.
 
Why, Turtle.  You *know* I couldn't possibly have been referring to
*you*! 
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Various        
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:01:35
Message Number 11287

T> (Rap is a...musical parasite....)
 
YES!  YES!  That's EXACTLY the word I was looking for!  Parasitic!
 
T>...But at least it's not even interesting to listen to...)
 
You mean that it *can* be listened to?  I was under the impression that
the lower species used it's loud booming qualities as a sort of a mating
call....
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: war!           
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:04:48
Message Number 11288

T> ...and it doesn't take too many maniacs with bombs in thier ...
 
Yeah...you know, you'd think that attrition would take it's toll on
those people...they're always blowing themselves up for some reason or
another...but no, they just keep breeding like...rats, or cockroaches.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:07:20
Message Number 11289

Fighting for the Emir of Kuwait's country *is* fighting for our 
country. The word Freedom means nothing to you, right?  Or is that 
only for *our* country and the hell with the rest of the world?   Oh,
yes, that *is* your attitude, isn't it.  That's exactly what you said
in your message.
 
T>...shouldn't have created him in the first place.  
 
Perhaps you would care to elaborate on the WILD claim.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:10:32
Message Number 11290

T>Hey, Beatle, this situation is ALREADY a world war.  Yes, we're gonna
T>see a third world war in our lifetimes. 
 
World war, maybe.  I think that claim is a little exaggerated, because
usually a world war is like several countries against several other
countries, not all against one.  I don't believe that it's going to be
like in the movies, "World War III" nukes and all that other bulls*it.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:14:14
Message Number 11291

So, you're saying my premise of "we hate to see dictators" is Bull?
So, ok, lets leave Hussein in Kuwait...and then, let him take over the 
middle east.  Oh, yeah, that's better.  I maintain that getting rid of
Hussein could only be an improvement.  Gotta go with the least of all
Evils.  And the Emir in this case, *IS* the least of the evils. 
Obviously, Hussein is the worst.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:17:58
Message Number 11292

SS> ...blah, blah,...END OF STORY!
 
Well spoken.  And I would personally beat the daylights outta anyone 
who tried to burn my flag.
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:19:52
Message Number 11293

SS>How about an iceberg? I bet you'd be to [sic] cold to do anything
 
I dunno, I bet *I* coule still get an awful lot accomplished.  
(Cold weather does such wonderful things with nipples.)
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From: THE SPECIALIST      
To: TIBERIUS            
Subject: ok             
Date & Time: 01/18/91 23:24:05
Message Number 11294

T>I like it!  Precise, to the point, succinct, says it all!! Thanks!
 
Welcome.
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From: BEATLE              
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Orig. of handle
Date & Time: 01/19/91 00:00:38
Message Number 11295

>from Star Trek...
 Yeah, it's Captain Kirk's middle name.
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From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: So tell me...  
Date & Time: 01/19/91 00:03:04
Message Number 11296

> this situation is ALREADY a world war.
 
  Yes, possibly, BUT, will this really go down in the record books as e
the third world war?
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From: BEATLE              
To: THE SPECIALIST      
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/19/91 00:18:22
Message Number 11297

>I'm not as much concerned about Kuwait...as I am about Hussein.
 
 Then you're supporting the wrong war, dude.
 
  It's been asked MANY times over the last couple days wether they'v
been targeting Hussein himself, or if they know where he is. The repl
is ALWAYS that this action is to get Iraq out of Kuwait and NOT to
target any individuals.
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From: BLACK MAGIC         
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: WAR            
Date & Time: 01/19/91 00:48:51
Message Number 11298

I know Rufus, and I don't think it is a matter of being chicken...
War is very serious.  I find it to be difficult to fight in a war 
which one might not totally believe in...but I do know that calling
Rufus a draft0dodger and a chicken are a bit childish...if he's such
a draft-dodger, then what are you, my friend?  Why aren't you in the 
Gulf fighting?  Are you AFRAID?  
               The Lady In Black
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From: TURTLE              
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Arabic         
Date & Time: 01/19/91 03:28:28
Message Number 11299

>The citizens of Kuwait have just as much right to thier country
>as anyone else would.
 
I agree wholeheartedly, absolutely, 100%. The citizens of Kuwait
have the right to be a self-determining body. So do the
Palestinians. So does the South African majority. So do the
Lebanese. Your point, please?
 
While you can argue that what Hussein did was wrong, illegal, etc,
etc, you can ALSO argue that the United States has no business being
the world's morality police. If we MUST insist on doing this sort of
thing, though, is it too much to ask that it be done consistently?
We as a country are all for democracy and freedom, WHEREVER IT'S
CONVENIENT. If an ALLY of ours moves into another country, takes it
over, and starts killing the citizens, we don't give two shits.
If an ENEMY starts doing the same thing, it's "Oh my goodness, we
have to stop this evil man. Oh, look, he's taking over other people's
countries! Naughty, naughty. Let's go teach him a lesson." Get real.
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From: TURTLE              
To: SCOTT STEEL         
Subject: Addictions.    
Date & Time: 01/19/91 03:32:51
Message Number 11300

>How about on an iceberg?
 
I'd manage.
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