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1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask....
2 ********************* REMOVED: 6 JUL 83 *****************************
3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System)  Mike Day System operator
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5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION PLACED ON
6                     THIS SYSTEM.
7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privatly owned
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13 to me. Additionally because of the limited size of the system, it will be
14 periodically purged of older messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved)
15 The saved information will be cycled to drive 'B' while the information on
16 drive 'B' will be archived, and a fresh disk will be installed in drive 'A'.
17 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out
18 of the enter mode. The message is automaticly stored.
19 If after entering the message you find you made a mistake,
20 use the replace command to replace the line.
21 To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up.
22 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system.
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26 I just read an article in The Newscientist which says that
27 I'm a parisite on the female of the sex. Woe is me...
28 Is it not enough that I am continually bandied with the
29 concept of me being nothing more then a figurehead without
30 having to hear my sex being called a parisite as well?
31 To be more specific, it is calling me a Geonomic disease 
32 sort of like a virus. It's bad enough being called a disease
33 but to be put in the same catagory as the common cold! That 
34 is a low blow! 
35 As they put it;
36    Primitive sexuality is a contagious disease. Bacteria 
37 normally reproduce asexually, by splitting in two. But when
38 Escherichia coli becomes infected with a segment of 
39 parisitic DNA - a plasmoid known as the F factor - the bug
40 begins to mate (Oh great now they are calling me a bug as
41 well - tisk tisk) It grows sex pili and uses them to inject
42 the F factor and bits of its own DNA into other bacteria.
43 Parisitic DNA may have invented sexual reproduction simply 
44 in order to spread itself around between lineages.
45 *** A VERY DEPRESSED CISTOP MIKEY *** 8:00PM *** 26 JUN 83 ***
46 Sorry, Mike, we all gotta come from somewhere, but lay off that parasite
47 bit; it still takes 2 to make babies. Of course, one man and a lot of 
48 women (or should that be ladies?)....
49 For all you forth freeks: in the latest Creative there is a review of the
50 Jupiter Ace, the first(I do beleive) computer that comes with forth in 
51 ROM, so it starts up in forth, not basic. The price is only $150. It is
52 sort of like an improved Sinclair.
53 However, for rather less money you can buy a VIC-20, and the VICFORTH
54 cartridge, get FORTH, more memory, a far better keyboard, color graphics,
55 and when you want to write a program, can unplug forth, and run BASIC.
56 We'll have to wait and see what it actually sells for, the VIC is still
57 being advertised as "less than $299", but last I saw it was nearer $85.
58 When will we have a small Pascal in ROM?
59 
60 Oh, by the way Mike, why did you switch discs so soon, there is still
61 good room on DB?
62 //////////////////////////////////B.A.D.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
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64 DOUBLE HEADED 40 TRACK $299.95
65 15 MEGABYTE INTERNAL WINCHESTERS LESS THAN $1250.00....
66 40 TRACK MPI FLIPPY JUST $ 249.95
67 BOB MCKNIGHT 777-xxxx
68 TRS SPECIALIST REPAIRS AND MODS.LOWER CASE MOD I $40
69 COCO LOWER CASE $100.00, 64K $85 TRS-80 EXPANSION INTERFACE $350LIKE NEW 48K
70 BOB MCKNIGHT 777-xxxx  IBM CLONE THE CORONA IS A FANTASTIC MACHINE...CALL 
71 
72 OFF
73 SAVE
74 OFF
75 ..............................................
76 TRON: What was that bit about CHR$(8) & CHR$(9)? I intercept
77 the KEYBOARD driver at the RAM vector, thus things get changed
78 BEFORE the video driver can mess them up! When would be a good
79 time to call you and exchange programs? (I'm leaving msg here
80 because CBBS is not responding to me. I get carrier and then
81 nothing......)
82 _________________________Leonard___________________________
83 p.s. the U of O has a LISP for the TRS-80!
84 ___________________________________________________________
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104 KKKKKKKBBBBBAAAAANNNNNGGGGG!!!!!!!
105 Happy fourth of July from Shibumi...
106 =======================================
107 To the person who wanted the BBS numbers on the the other
108 disk....the # to call to find a very complete BBS listing
109 is (206) 693-xxxx. That is the vancouver BBS and he has
110 a very good listing of all the BBS's around the Oregon
111 and Washington area. (and beyond) Anyway..if you have
112 not called there before, when the system asks you for a 
113 users ID type "NEWUSER" and for a password type "FIRSTIME".
114 (without quotes) When you get to a system ready prompt type
115 "BBLIST" and thats all there is to it.
116 Be patient. His system operates a little slower than the
117 others but he has a very complete setup and is worth
118 checking out. Bye.
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120 UP 25
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122 To: Leonard   From: Tron   Re: Video and keyboard
123 
124     Yes, that's what I meant. I meant to say that the keyboard
125 driver routine is intercepted at the KEYBOARD DCB, and same is
126 true with the Video. Okay, now the sticky stuff. Where does he
127 want it located?  Below BASIC storage area?  Protected in high
128 memory? Where? Also, what does he want,  say character codes 9
129 and 127 to do?   Does he want special characters to do special
130 things like 7 will produce a bell out the cassette port?  Tell
131 me EXACTLY what he wants and I'll write it just for him.   You
132 don't need to tell me EVERY code and what it does,  but simply
133 what ones are different from the ones ordinarrily displayed by
134 the TRS-80.
135 
136                   Tron
137 ----------
138 Mikey:
139   Who cares what that magazine says? Apparently that guy has a
140 lot of nerve publishing that thing!
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142 TO: Berney   Fm: CISTOP Mikey
143 The real reason I changed the disk was that I was getting 
144 Intensively bored with the goings on of late and was hopeing to
145 inject some new blood with a fresh disk. This was also my reason
146 for implanting the above article refferance in the hopes that I
147 would get a response of some sort out of it. I must say that
148 I am surprized at the ho-hum response so far. As strongly as it
149 was worded I had expected to get a much stronger reaction.
150 Hmmm, Maybe it was too strong? I do have to say that the extrapolations
151 of the ideas were mine, I was simply taking things to their logical
152 conclusion based on the presented thought pattern. The last
153 paragraph however is almost verbatim from the article with the
154 exception of my comment in (). P.S. don't take my comments or
155 ramblings too seriously, I generally inject them just to see what 
156 kind of response I'll get!
157 *** CISTOP MIKEY (NOW THE TRUTH IS KNOWN!) *** 27 JUN 83 *** 2:21PM ***
158 ----------
159 Does anyone know of a straight line-draw routine for the TRS-80
160 model I computer? I'd like it so it would hold the first x,y
161 coordinate in DE and the second x,y coordinate in HL. You call
162 a routine and it would draw the line. Could anyone do this or
163 does anyone know of a routine that will? PLEASE respond. I need
164 this routine bad........
165 
166 
167             Tron
168 Any help would be appreciated.
169 ----------
170 TO TRON****
171 IN MY VAST LIBRARY OF "PIRATED" I MEAN DONATED..PROGRAMS I HAVE A COUPLE THAT
172 DRAW LINE SKETCHES. i'M NOT INTO ASSEMBLY SO i DON'T KNOW HOE THEY WORK.
173 ASSEMBLY LESSONS WANTED..CALL BOB MCKNIGHT ....
174 
175 MODEL 1 EXPANSION INTERFACE R/S
176  WITH 32K JUST   $350
177 MODEL 1 L AND W EXPANSION INTERFACE ...COMPLETE BOARD $250 BOB MCKNIGHT
178 
179 WELL MICKEY, YOU TRIED, BUT IT SEEMS YOU PICKED A BAD DAY TO START A NEW SESSION
180 SEEMS CBBS IS HAVING PROBLEMS TODAY SO ALL THE NON ALIASES ARE CALLING HERE TODA
181 GUESS THAT HOW IT IS SOME TIMES.
182 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
183 To Pann,  Fm Adam Trent, 
184 Hi, Thanks for mentioning the meeting.  Last time I tried to go to
185 the meeting (at the Aloha Computer&Things) the building was vacant.
186 Did they move or go out of business??  I'll try to make the one at Tek.
187 I like STOIC over FORTH because, as a high-level language, it offers
188 a more symetric model for handling strings and string literals.  It
189 has a compile buffer which allows for more flexibility in "immediate"
190 testing of routines.  Haven't used CODE word defining in STOIC (ie, I
191 haven't dropped into the STOIC assembler).  It has one though.  Speed
192 is definitely comparable to FIG-FORTH if you assemble STOIC with-out
193 stack boundary checking (I like stack boundary checking, tho).
194 STOIC is 75% 8080 ASM and 25% in itself.  FORTH is usually 75% in
195 itself and 25% in ASM.  This generally leads to pretty good 
196 performance for STOIC as compared to FORTH.  The STOIC vocabulary
197 stack is a more rational mechanism than the static vocabulary
198 tree of FORTH.  The FORTH disk access model is more primitive and
199 thus more flexible than the CP/M file access provided with stock
200 STOIC.  HOWEVER, line numbers (ala BASIC) and screen numbers
201 (ala FORTH) are absolute references and are DUMB in my opinion.
202 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$27jun83 - 1835  -  Adam Trent$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
203 	Ok, someone believes that men are a disease of women.  Well, as
204 a member of the contagious army, I have a proposition:
205 	Any women out there who want to get infected?
206 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
207 Caution:the working Heath EBH BASIC version died in a system crash; this
208 is an earlier version partly converted to Microsoft:::1	CLEAR 1000	'	THIS REPLACES DIM(I$(800)
209 2	DIM S(40),R(20),L(10),L0(10):3	DIM B$(80)	'This should be part of "clear"??:4	PRINT "BASIC-FORTH	V 3":5	?"by C.H.Ting
210 6	?"Dr. Dobb's Journal #60,Oct 81;vol 6,iss10, pp12:20	rem N is SP,M is RP,K is IP,L is W:24	ON ERROR GOTO 29:28	GOTO 30
211 29	PRINT A$;" ?"; "ERROR ";ERR; "IN ";ERL:30	M=0:32	N=0:50	REM  *** TEXT INTERPRETER  ***:60	K=1:62	INPUT I$:64	L1=0
212 70	L(K)=L1:72	L0(K)=LEN(I$):74	L1=L0(K):100	IF N<0 THEN 106:101	IF XZ THEN PRINT 101:104	GOTO 110:106	PRINT "STACK EMPTY"
213 108	GOTO 30:110	L(K)=L(K)+1:112	IF L(K)>L0(K) THEN 132:114	B$=MID$(I$,L(K),1)'text was B$=MID$(L(K),L(K))
214 116	IF B$=" " THEN 110:118	A$=B$:120	L(K)=L(K)+1:121	IF L(K)>L0(K) THEN 130:122	B$=MID$(I$,L(K),1)'SEE 114
215 124	IF B$=" " THEN 130:126	A$=A$+B$'text was A$=A$,B$:128	GOTO 120:130	GOTO 200:132	IF K<2 THEN 60:134	K=K-1
216 135	I$=LEFT$(I$,L0(K))'text used I$(1,L0(K)):136	L1=L0(K):138	GOTO 110:200	'#  DICTIONARY	#
217 210	'  300 TO 900 = HIGH LEVEL DEFINITOINS:300	IF A$<>"SQUARE" THEN 310:302	B$="DUP *":304	I$=I$+B$'see 135:306	K=K+1
218 308	GOTO 70:310	IF A$<>"CUBE" THEN 320:312	B$="DUP SQUARE *":314	I$=I$+B$'see 135:316	K=K+1:318	GOTO 70
219 320	IF A$<>"TEST" THEN 330:322	B$="DO PI 10 / R@ * sin . loop" 'good luck with "@" and MBASIC
220 324	I$=I$+B$			'you may want to use something:326	K=K+1				'else:328	GOTO 70:900	'*  LOW LEVEL DEFINITIONS - NUCLEUS  *
221 902	IF A$<>"+" THEN 910:904	N=N-1:906	S(N)=S(N)+S(N+1):908	goto 100:910	IF A$<>"-" THEN 920:912	N=N-1
222 914	S(N)=S(N)-S(N+1):916	GOTO 100:920	IF A$<>"*" THEN 930:922	N=N-1:924	S(N)=S(N)*S(N+1):926	GOTO 100
223 930	IF A$<>"/" THEN 940:932	N=N-1:934	S(N)=S(N)/S(N+1):936	GOTO 100:940	IF A$<>"ABS" THEN 950:942	S(N)=ABS(S(N))
224 944	GOTO 100:950	IF A$<>"ATN" THEN 960:952	S(N)=ATN(S(N)):954	GOTO 100:960	IF A$<>"COS" THEN 970:962	S(N)=COS(S(N))
225 964	GOTO 100:970	IF A$<>"EXP" THEN 980:972	S(N)=EXP(S(N)):974	GOTO 100:980	IF A$<>"INT" THEN 990:982	S(N)=INT(S(N))
226 984	GOTO 100:990	IF A$<>"LOG" THEN 1000:992	S(N)=LOG(S(N)):994	GOTO 100:1000	IF A$<>"RND" THEN 1010
227 1002	S(N)=RND(1)'text was S(N)=RND(-N):1004	GOTO 100:1010	IF A$<>"SGN" THEN 1020:1012	S(N)=SGN(S(N))	'? DEF OF SGN  ??
228 1014	GOTO 100:1020	IF A$<>"SIN" THEN 1030:1022	S(N)=SIN(S(N)):1024	GOTO 100:1030	IF A$<>"SQR" THEN 1040
229 1032	S(N)=SQR(S(N)):1034	GOTO 100:1040	IF A$<>"TAN" THEN 1050:1042	S(N)=TAN(S(N)):1044	GOTO 100:1050	IF A$<>"^" THEN 1060
230 1052	N=N-1:1054	S(N)=S(N)^S(N+1)'S(N) to power of S(N+1):1056	GOTO 100:1060	IF A$<>"S?" THEN 1070:1062	FOR I=1 TO N
231 1064	PRINT S(N-I+1):1066	NEXT I:1068	GOTO 100:1070	IF A$<>"." THEN 1080:1071	IF N<1 THEN 106:1072	PRINT S(N):1074	N=N-1
232 1076	GOTO 100:1080	IF A$<>"DUP" THEN 1090:1082	N=N+1:1084	S(N)=S(N-1):1086	GOTO 100:1090	IF A$<>"DROP" THEN 1100
233 1092	N=N-1:1094	GOTO 100:1100	IF A$<>"SWAP" THEN 1110:1102	SWAP S(N),S(N-1):1108	GOTO 100:1110	IF A$<>"OVER" THEN 1120
234 1112	N=N+1:1114	S(N)=S(N-2):1116	GOTO 100:1120	IF A$<>">R" THEN 1130:1122	M=M+1:1124	R(M)=S(N):1126	N=N-1:1128	GOTO 100
235 1130	IF A$<>"R>" THEN 1140:1132	N=N+1:1134	S(N)=R(M):1136	M=M-1:1138	GOTO 100:1140	IF A$<>"R@" THEN 1200'see 322
236 1142	N=N+1:1144	S(N)=R(M):1146	GOTO 100:1200	'*  CONTROL STRUCTURES	*:1202	IF A$<>"=" THEN 1210:1203	N=N-1
237 1204	IF S(N)=S(N+1) THEN 1207:1205	S(N)=0:1206	GOTO 100:1207	S(N)=1:1209	GOTO 100:1210	IF A$<>">" THEN 1220:1212	N=N-1
238 1214	IF S(N)>S(N+1) THEN 1217:1215	S(N)=0:1216	GOTO 100:1217	S(N)=1:1218	GOTO 100:1220	IF A$<>"<" THEN 1230:1222	N=N-1
239 1223	IF S(N)<S(N+1) THEN 1227:1224	S(N)=0:1225	GOTO 100:1227	S(N)=1:1228	GOTO 100:1230	IF A$<>"IF" THEN 1250:1231	N=N-1
240 1232	IF S(N+1)=0 THEN 100'DEF OF "IF"<>0 IS TRUE?;text was IF S(N+1)THEN 100:1233	FOR I=L(K) TO L0(K) -3
241 1234	B$=MID$(I$,I,4) 'text was B$=I$(I,I+3):1235	IF B$="ELSE" THEN 1240:1236	IF B$="THEN" THEN 1240:1237	NEXT I
242 1238	PRINT "IF?":1239	GOTO 30:1240	L(K)=I+4:1241	GOTO 100:1242	GOTO 100:1250	IF A$<>"ELSE" THEN 1260:1252	GOTO 1233
243 1260	IF A$<>"THEN" THEN 1270:1262	GOTO 100:1270	IF A$<>"BEGIN" THEN 1280:1272	M=M+1:1274	R(M)=L(K):1276	GOTO 100
244 1280	IF A$<>"UNTIL" THEN 1300:1282	N=N-1:1283	IF S(N+1) = 0 THEN 1288'added "=0":1284	IF S(N+1)= 0 THEN 100	' "    "
245 1286	L(K)=R(M):1287	GOTO 100:1288	M=M-1:1289	GOTO 100:1300	IF A$<>"DO" THEN 1320:1302	M=M+1:1304	R(M)=L(K):1305	M=M+1
246 1306	R(M)=S(N-1):1308	M=M+1:1309	R(M)=S(N):1310	N=N-2:1312	GOTO 100:1320	IF A$<>"LOOP" THEN 1340:1322	R(M)=R(M)+1
247 1324	IF R(M-1)>R(M) THEN 1330:1326	M=M-3:1328	GOTO 100:1330	L(K)=R(M-2):1332	GOTO 100:1340	'* CONSTANTS  *
248 1500	IF A$<>"PI" THEN 1510:1502	N=N+1:1504	S(N)=3.14159:1506	GOTO 100:1510	IF A$<>"0" THEN 1520:1512	N=N+1:1514	S(N)=0
249 1516	GOTO 100:1520	IF A$<>"STOP" THEN 1600:1522	STOP:1600	'*  NUMBER  *:1604	N=N+1:1606	S(N)=VAL(A$):1608	GOTO 100
250 ::::2000'the end
251 
252 to use the above. you must convert all colons : to your newline function, usually
253 a carriage return, line feed or both.
254 it is about 100-120 characters per line, to fit on here; the 50 or so
255 lines becomes about 250 when expanded:: it won't work unless expanded.
256 I don't promise anything; the @ especially is death to Microsoft, at
257 least in my version,& becomes a newline without ending a logical line.
258 It simply disappears. Heath basic works OK.
259 have fun fun fun fun nuf nuf nuf nuf nuf (FORTH IS BACKWARDS)
260 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
261 Oh, by the wqay Mike, when it seems you are serious, we'll all just
262 move to CBBS, the Bit Bucket, or PMS,,or??
263 ...........................................B.A.D.....I still prefer C....
264 PS IT STARTS AT LINE 1; THE HEADER GOT MIXED IN DURING THE CONDENSING.
265 ...................................................
266 .....................................................
267     ZZZZZZ      SNORE
268 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 28 Jun 83 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
269   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   00:49   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
270      Picture a figure with desolate stance, a wisp of a girl with face
271 upturned, who waits before a towering door of wood rough-hewn...her eyes
272 troubled & dark, she reaches for the forbidding knocker, but her hands
273 tremble as she does so, hesitant to touch the cold metal.  She draws back
274 her hand, and instead rearranges her cloak to wrap her closer against the
275 unfriendly wind, listening all the while to the raucous laughter, probing
276 for a familiar voice in the crowd behind the door...
277 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     d     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
278 Welcome back, Dragon Lady (or may I call you Drag, for short).  Sorry 
279 you couldn't join my party.  I'm sorry that my prose is rusty and 
280 unimaginative, but as Mr. T said when asked if he'd do Shakespeare,
281 	"I don't talk in that kind of broken english."
282 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::    jb    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
283 Mike, do you have any 600:600 ohm phone line matching transformers just
284 sitting around gathering dust that I could beg, borrow, steal, or even pay a 
285 little money for??????
286 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::    jb    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
287 ***************************************************************
288   So I return! I apologize for making fun of Tron. He's one of
289 my friends out here in Corbett and I just liked to get him back
290 for a few things he did to me. I reamlly am sorry for making him
291 sound dumb. He really isn't if you really get to talking. Well,
292 I'd better get out of here.......
293 *********************** Darth Vader ***************************
294 **************
295 
296 THIS IS YOUR EMPEROR!
297 
298 YOU WILL ALL SURRENDER TO THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE AT ONCE,
299 OR YOU SHALL SUFFER A FATE WORSE THAN ANYTHING YOU HAVE EVER 
300 SEEN BEFORE.
301 
302 
303 ----------------------------------------
304 TO: "TRON"
305   
306    TEE DAWSON HAS INFORMED ME THAT YOU
307 PROGRAM IN MACHINE LANGUAGE AND ARE
308 VERY GOOD WITH MOST COMPUTERS.
309    I PROGRAM IN MACHINE CODE FOR
310 THE 6502 (1 1/2 YEARS), AND A LITTLE
311 ON THE Z-80, AS WELL AS PROGRAMMING IN
312 SEVERAL OTHER LANGUAGES.
313    TEE SUGGESTED THAT I GET IN TOUCH
314 WITH YOU. I AM INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU
315 CAN DO AND MABEY WE COULD EXCHANGE SOME
316 TECHNICAL INFORMATION.
317    I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD
318 LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR ERIK ROGERS EITHER
319 HERE OR ON THE BIT BUCKET.
320    THANKS.
321 ----------------------------------------
322 TO: JB    FM: MIKE  RE:TRANSFORMERS
323 SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTLY, SUGGEST YOU GO DOWN TO 
324 RADAR ELECTRIC, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING MINE.
325 AS I REMEMBER, THEY ONLY CARRYED THE CENTER TAPPED VERSION
326 IN STOCK, BUT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM, JUST DON'T HOOK ANYTHING
327 TO THE CENTER TAP.
328 *****************************************************
329 GEE, WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE GOOD STUFF THAT USED
330 TO BE ON HERE AND IS A TRADITION OF THE BACKWATER BBS?
331 ======================================
332 Greetings, O Lady of Dragons! Come and be seated. Wouldst thou
333 care for some of the innkeeper's mead? No matter, if thou wish
334 anything I'm sure that thou shalt find it. 
335 	Now that thou art comfortable, pray tell us what thou
336 wouldst discuss. May I be so bold as to request some aid in the
337 proper conjugation of certain verbs? (I am QUITE aware that
338 "thou wish" is incorrect, but I must needs confess my ignorance
339 of the proper form.)
340 
341 		Welcome and well-met,
342 _____________________________the apprentice_____________________
343 --------------
344 
345 THIS IS EMPEROR PALLPATINE.
346 
347 NONE OF YOU HAS SURRENDERED TO THE DARK SIDE.  NOW FOR YOU LACK
348 YOU WILL DIE!!!!!
349 
350 
351 
352 THERE YOUR EARS SHOULD BE WELL FRIED BY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
353 ----------
354 HOW DOES ONE GET CP/M TO COME UP ON THIS THING????
355 
356 
357 ---------
358 Emporer,
359   You can't make me do anything! I am not going to surrender to
360 the dark side of the Force because the dark side sucks! Fortunatley
361 for me, my terminal doesn't have a built in bell. So, face on
362 you buddy!
363 
364             Tron
365 P.S. Never mess with Tron...........
366 ---------
367 ************************************j***************************************
368 This is an attempt to test a modem 1 on a TRS-80 Model 4
369 *************************************************************************.**
370 WELL, IS SURE SEEMS TO WORK.
371 
372 ---------------------
373 HEY EMPORER,
374     HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW HOW IT
375 FEELS TO HAVE THE ELECTRON SPRAY IN 
376 YOUR CRT PAINT YOUR FACE?
378          
379               BIT BYTER
380 ----------------------
381 If you do a "CC N" when you sign on, you will avoid the bell anyway!!
382 __________Max Grody____________________________________________
383 Hey, little lizard, is your tongue sharp enough to do battle with
384 _________Max Grody____?????????????????????????????????????????
385 Apprentice, if you try "thou wilst", you are in the ballpark, I seem to
386 remember that was common a few years back, somewhere, somewhen, 
387 or thereabouts.
388 In the new Newsweek there is an article on supercomputers, and the "race
389 with Japan, Inc. to produce one. It seems there is some fear that the 
390 about $1 billion planned to be spent in the US isn't enough to offset
391 the $200 million that Japan is about to spend. They took over the 
392 pocket calculator market, the elecrtonic watch market, and now 
393 supercomputers? They haven't even made a dent in the microcomputer market
394 yet. (Except for printers) And this is because they haven't been able to
395 get into the software. Yet. We won't say anything about the fact that
396 the US firms that are trying to beat out Japan are afraid of being sued
397 for doing the very thing that Japan is doing. (Neither IBM nor AT&T 
398 would join, because of the legal problems.) Right we (US) own the market,
399 all 76 machines of it. I believe the person who wrote the article was 
400 severely overstating the importance of this huge market; the very fact
401 that IBM is not counted among the makers of supercomputers says a little
402 about their view of the value of such, or the market possibilites of the
403 things. (To a company that sells about half the big computers in the world,
404 and about 1/5 the small ones, (( a million or so)) the possibility of
405 selling another dozen isn't worth the cost.) Will a few billion bucks
406 really be enough? After all, most of the present super c's are made by
407 Cray, and designed by one person (Cray himself), who also laid the basis
408 for much of the competion's (CDC's).
409 The interesting thing is the comments on what is "just around the corner"
410 in the field of artificial intelligence: computers who talk, and can be
411 talked to, or ones that seem truly "intelligent" (ie, in an open discussion,
412 can seem aware of what is happening, and react or answer in a sensible
413 manner). Why is this so especially noteworthy? Because I have a book 
414 written in the mid 1950's ( 30 years ago) that said that the same things
415 were JUST AROUND THE CORNER! Machine translation from one language to 
416 another seemed closer then than it does today, because it has been tried,
417 and fell on it's butt. Truly, we are a lot closer to artificial 
418 intelligence today (by about 30 years) but God alone knows how long more
419 we must wait. My guess is that when such a machine is built, we won't know
420 it, because it will take abut 20 years to program it. In other words,
421 about as long as it takes to program it's competion, the human brain.
422 If something that operates about a million times slower is a more powerful
423 computer, just maybe they are looking in the wrong direction?? How 
424 about parallel processing? Use 10 million neurons to replace one IC,
425 try holographic encodeing in 100 million for a memory, with majority
426 logic for error correction, feed it sugar and ATP, in water, call it
427 a brain, house it in a self replicating, self repairing, self programming
428 body, and call it a person. It isn't obsolete yet.
429 //////////////////////////////////B.A.D.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
430 -----
431 Once the program for the "intelligent" computer was finished, however, you
432 could have it build more "intelligent" computers or just copy its program
433 to another computer.
434 -----
435 So, you say, the supercomputer can outdo its human rival: real, live cloning
436 !  Or will that take 9 months, too.  'Course, it now takes a human babe 
437 'bout 20 years to gain a bit of judgment, right?
438 *&**&*&**&*&**&*&*&**&*&*&*&*&**&*&*&***&*&**&*&*&**&***&***&
439 Apprentice:  Learn these things:  Honor thy teachers, but be ye wary lest ye
440 grasp the wrong lessons.  'Tis ill-formed to speak with the contractive
441 tongue;  'tis worse to pen it.  Refrain ye from words like "conjugate", lest
442 ye raise yon hairy crop upon the backs of your fingers.       Ol' Master
443 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
444 The problem with computer translation of languages isn't the
445 computer's fault. If you want proof, consider the following:
446 Ask someone what "yeah" means. They will probably say something
447 like "it means yes, or indicates agreement". To this you respond
448 "Oh yeah?"
449 Try running that thru a computer! My point is that the REAL
450 problem is that while you can tell a computer how to do ANYTHING
451 we usually get upset when it does what it was told to. We really
452 DON'T know what the rules for various human languages are and
453 we certainly have no idea what "intelligence" IS. When we figure
454 out what it is, we will probably find that we COULD have done it
455 with present day machines.
456 __________________________Leonard_______________________________
457 To: Bob McKnight    From: Tron   Re: Assembly lessons
458 
459 
460   Bob, I called you a few days ago concerning assembly language.
461 I think I may have contacted your son or a kid in the house but
462 I'll teach you assembly language if you are willing to learn.
463 Give me a call at 695-xxxx Mondays through Mondays from 10:00am
464 to 8:30pm.
465 
466                      Tron
467 _____________
468 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
469 
470 THIS IS THE EMPEROR....YOU ARE ALL MY SLAVES......PUT DOWN YOUR
471 LIGHTSABERS AND COME TO ME ON YOUR KNEES.....GIVE UP YOUR APPLES
472 AND TURN THEM IN FOR IBM'S...IF YOU DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'LL
473 GET........SOME OF THIS....
474 
475 GOT IT....GOOD....EVERYTHING HAS GONE ACCORDING TO MY PLANS...
476 
477 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
478 TO:CISYOP MIKEY    FM:THE EMPEROR
479 SJ:CP/M
480 
481 MIKEY,
482    HOW DOES I GET CP/M TO COME UP...YOU CHANGE THE PASSWORD???
483 
484 P.S. DON'T FOOL WITH ME..!!
485 TO:ANYONE INTERESTED.   FROM:THE BRUISER
486 THERE IS A BBS IN CAL. THAT HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF!!!  CALL 408-253-xxxx
487 I HAVE AN ATARI 800. BUT THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF PROGRAMS AND GAMES YOU CAN
488 
489 GET.  
490 
491 BY THE WAY, DO YOU THINK THAT DARTH VADER GOODSIDE COMING OUT IN THE RETURN
492 OF THE JEDI COINCIDES WITH THE REBIRTH OF PORTLAND'S MEANEST,FOULEST,DIRTIEST
493 WRESTLER, I.E. PLAYBOY BUDDY ROSE.(YEAH, WE WANT BUDDY).  MAYBE THERES HOPE
494 FOR REAGAN.(HEY,HEY,HES NO GOOD.  SEND HIM BACK TO HOLLYWOOD.)
495 ==========
496 Someone above said that it takes 20 years for someone to develop
497 judgement.  Well, in the case of some who use this system, I suspect it
498 will take a lot longer.
499 ==========
500 From the looks of things, it may be never for most of the inhabitants.
501 Also, the existence of intelligence is more probable in computers
502 than among the present generation!!!!!!
503 _________Max Grody_________________________________________________
504 DOES ANYWON WITH A BERANE USE THIS SISTEM????  IF SOO, DROP ME
505 ----------------------------------------------------------------
506 CPM NO LONGER EXISTS ON THIS SYSTEM... SORRY 
507 ******* CISTOP MIKEY ****** 30 JUN 83 *************************
508 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
509 THERE MAY YET BE SOME INTELLIGENT LIFE
510 FORMS DRIFTING AMONG US, BUT THEY 
511 REMAIN TO BE FOUND!
512 
513 <<BIT BYTER>>
514 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
515 
516 NEW SHIPMENT OF DISK DRIVES JUST ARRIVED BOB MCKNIGHT 777-2555
517 JUST WANTED TO SEE IF A NEW MODEM WORKS.  NOW I WONDER IF 
518 I CAN READ THIS BACK?
519 ============================
520 YEP.  THE MURA 100 WORKS FINE.
521 =============GRIZ=============
522 Tron, I got back from work at about 11 pm and it was too
523 late to call ya.  I'll try to call tomorrow from work, but I'll
524 probably be back around the same time so I won't call from home.
525 Got a bunch of new games from Steve... there is a set of term-
526 inating resistors in my interface that make the computer think
527 the joystick is pushed every way at once (they pull the data
528 lines to ground) so I've had to go through most of the games
529 and zap the joystick routines.  It's easy though; just search
530 the disk file for a DB 00 (IN A,(0)) and change it to a
531 3E FF (LD A,0FFH).  Once you get started it's almost automatic.
532 Hey, I should build a DO file to do all the busywork for me...
533 	Anyway, call ya later.
534 --------------------------------ag-------------------------
535 **************************************************************.*
536 
537 TO: ADAM TRENT        FM: MIKE DAY       RE: AMODEM
538 
539 I have found a bug which may have been giving you problems,
540 in the routine that waits for the SOH from the sender,
541 change the following:
542 
543 RCVSOHE PUSH B
544         MVI B,1
545         CALL RECV
546         POP B
547         JNC RCVSOHE
548 
549         LDA RSENDBF
550         CALL SEND
551 
552 To look like this:
553 
554 RCVSOHE LDA RSENDBF
555         CALL SEND
556 
557 This eliminates the garbage collection at this point which
558 was gobbling up the SOH so that the receiver never saw it.
559 It has a side benifit of boosting local high speed transfers
560 by at least 4 to 1! The disavantage is that if the sender
561 times out and resends the sector again you will get a buch
562 of garbage but it seems to recover nicely anyway.
563 The above routine occurs in the AMODEMR.ASM file.
564 
565 **************************************************************
566 Andy,
567   When are you going to be free one of these days? Maybe we can
568 swap some games over the modem. Whaddya think? Talk to ya later.
569 
570                Tron
571 ----------
572 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
573 Who will take this challenge?  Please don't divulge the answers.....
574 " My darlin' Lil,
575 You just got to get me out of this jail tonight.  Bring my horse and
576 tie his reins to the back window;  have him pull them bars right off.
577 But don't make a sound 'til then.
578 Trouble is, I don't know which cell I'm in!  But here's what I do know
579 about the layout of the jail:
580 There's six cells back here, all in a row, and each one has a high window
581 facin' the back alley.  I'm in a cell next to a feller name of Buck.  He's 
582 on my right as I stand facin' the door of my cell.  Don't know if there's
583 anybody in the cell on my other side--that cell's either empty or the 
584 feller in there's real quiet-like.
585 Buck's a regular here.  He's been fussin' on account of he didn't get his
586 usual corner cell, which is empty right now.  He says there's two other
587 fellers in here with us: Jake and Bart.
588 I hear tell this Jake is a real famous desperado.  They got him off by 
589 himself--nobody next to him.  Haven't heard a peep from him the whole time.
590 That other feller, Bart, is a real noisy one, always singin' cowboy
591 songs.
592 They just come to take Jake off to Abilene to stand trial. I leaned my
593 head against the bars and looked down the hall to my right, and caught a
594 glimpse of him.  Real mean-lookin'.
595 Please come and get me tonight.           Love, Dan"
596 ????? Which of the windows is Dan's? ???????
597 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DAVE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
598 None of them, he doesn't own the jail.
599 :::::::::::::::::::
600 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
601 GIVE IT TO 'EM' BRUISER. LET EM KNOW WHO AND WHAT 
602 IS REAL CLEAN FUN.......
603 +}+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
604 DAN IS IN THE 4TH CELL FROM THE LEFT, AS YOU FACE THE WINDOWS
605 FROM THE OUTSIDE.
606 ======================GRIZ======================-===========
607 try the 2nd cell from the left as you face the windows from the outside
608 _________Grey ghost_____________________________________
609 HELP
610 
611 
612 
613 2
614 8
615 HELP
616 Dan is in the left corner cell as you face the windows.  He didn't 
617 realize that there is no cell on his left.
618 ########################### Buck Rogers, 21st Century Kid ############
619 Anyone for nasty comments? This is the typical 
620 'puzzle freaks delight', but is unfortunately full of holes: there are
621 several possible answers, as not enough data is given, but a lot is
622 assumed. The cells are in a line, but is the line straight? not said.
623 Did you ASSUME that the corner cell that Buck isn't in means he isn't
624 in a corner cell? There may be 2 corners. Or more cells around the corner.
625 But let's not quibble, the story line won't cut anyway, no horse can
626 pull out jail bars with his reins.
627 .... well, got back on. Did Ma Bell pull a sneaky?
628 How many other answers are coming in? I think there are several.
629 One line left?? how can we answer in one line??????bad, very B.A.D.....

