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22           July 23, 1984
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25           Dr. Frankenstupe
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29           Re:  Future Purchases
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33           Thank you very much for your quick response to our request
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59 Since the police issue was already handled by Mohamed, I will leave
60 that issue alone. On the matter of the airplane though, I think that
61 you will find that the lastest commercial liners don't even have direct
62 connections from the 'stick' to the control surfaces. (Jet fighters
63 did away with them a long time ago as it is a very poor way of controling
64 the plane. Now-a-days the controls run thru computers, and the computers
65 do the actual controlling. The vision of pilots man-handling aircraft
66 thru the skys is long gone. It is far more important to have a quick
67 wit and good judgment as well as good reflexes to handle emergencies
68 and not strength. Looking at the latest airplane accidents and near
69 accidents, I have found that they all were adverted or could have beed
70 adverted by wit and reflex, and not brute force.
71 As far as the whole thing about women shouldn't work where men now do
72 because they don't have the physical strength of a man, I find to be
73 a very narrow minded approach to life. If the woman can handle the
74 physical aspects of the job as it requires, I see no reason she should be
75 disqualified. On the same note, if a man applies for the job and can
76 not handle the physical aspects of it, he should not be given the job
77 just because he is a man.
78 ****************************** CISTOP MIKEY *******************************
79 PAM: Why won't you talk? Sniff.
80 ************************************
81 MIKEY: AGREED-IF A PERSON CAN HANDLE THE JOB, THEN THEY SHOULD 
82 NOT BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST FOR REASON OF SEX,RACE, ETC. HOWEVER
83 YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE AIRCRAFT. COMPUTERS NOTWITHSTANDING, THE FACT REMAINS
84 THAT THE CONTROL SURFACES ARE OPERATED HYDRAULICALLY, AND IF HYDRAULIC PRESSURE IS LOST, OR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED, THE ONLY
85 WAY TO CONTROL THE AIRCRAFT IS
86 BY HAVING THE PHYSICAL STRENGTH
87 TO OVERCOME THIS LOSS. THINK ABOUT IT-COMPUTERS CAN ONLY TELL THE AIRFOILS WHAT TO DO, NOT DO IT FOR THEM. THE SAME IS TRUE OF
88 THE AUTO-PILOT: IF THE "COMPUTER MALFUNCTIONS, AND WILL NOT LET
89 THE AUTO-PILOT DISENGAGE, THEN THE ONLY WAT TO CONTROL THE 'PLANE
90 IS BY PHYSICALLY OVERCOMING THE PROBLEM. I HAVE NEVER FLOWN A COMMERCIAL AIRLINER, ONLY SMALL
91 AIRCRAFT (CESSNA 150, 7ECA CITRABIA, ETC) BUT I HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION OF PILOTS WHO ARE ATR'S, AND THEY HAVE VERIFIED WHAT 
92 I SAY. I LIKE LIVING TOO MUCH TO
93 PLACE MY LIFE IN ANYONES HANDS
94 IF I CAN AT ALL AVOID IT, BUT WHEN I MUST(SUCH AS MY LAST DELTA FLIGHT TO SEATTLE,) , I THINK ABOUT THAT. IF YOU ARE WATCHING,
95 THEN YOU CAN READ THIS. IF NOT, YOU WILL MISS IT, AS I DO NOT WANT
96 TO USE UP THIS MUCH SPACE ON THE DISC. DO YOU EVER CONVERSE WITH CALLERS WHILE ON LINE? (INCIDENTALLY, I AM [*=*]
97 WAITING
98 ?
99 GOONIGHT MIKEY
100 OFFLINE
101 :=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:
102   J.C and the Boys:
103 
104           You say you are the real ones, yet do you
105           know who you follow (divine leader)? if you
106           can't state the right answer, then we will
107           all know you are a farse.
108           Can you answer that question? Well, how about
109           who founded J.C and the Boys? Give initials
110           if you do not want to post names. Why the
111           new boarder all the sudden? Why havent you
112           logged on for a while? 
113           Answer all these and we will belive that you
114           are the true J.C. and the Boys.
115 
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117    For a discussion, how about a religious one?
118  That would not contridict the Inn, religion has been around
119  for who knows how long. There has always been people worshiping
120  a devine ruler of some sort. So why not a discussion about
121  the "Holy book" and God?
122 :=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:
123 RE: GOD- DID YOU EVER WONDER WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE BORN INTO A LIFE
124 OF LUXURY, WITHOUT EVER HAVING TO WANT FOR ANYTHING?
125 AND THEN CHILDREN ARE BORN IN BI-AFRA, AND ETC, WHERE THEIR 
126 WHOLE EXISTENCE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A CONSTANT DAILY STRUGGLE
127 JUST TO FIND ENOUGH FOOD TO KEEP
128 FROM DYING OF MALNUTRITION? "JC AND THE BOYS, ETC, ET AL, THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU PROSELYTIZE YOUR RELIGIOUS DOGMA. 
129 THINK, FOR ONCE, WHY THIS IS SO. THE HOLLOW, FLIMSY, BALONEY ARGUMENT THAT YOUR KIND RELIES ON 
130 "THE LORD WORKS IN MYSTEROUS WAYS" IS NOTHING BUT A COP OUT. YOU PRETEND TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT IF FACT, YOU
131 DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY ANSWERS. THERE ARE ONLY 2 POSSIBLE ANSWERS TO WHAT I HAVE PROPOSED:
132 
133 1. DEISM. (LOOK IT UP "JC")
134 2. THAT GOD IS AN *******. IF HE CARED (PER THE "BIBLE") THEN WHY BIAFRA, ETC.
135 ----------------------------------------
136 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE LAST TIME RELIGION WAS DISCUSSED, NOTHING WAS ACCOMPLISHED
137 BUT NEEDLESS MENTAL ANGUISH. LETS STOP THIS INFECTION IN ITS CHILDHOOD.
138 STOP IT NOW BEFORE IT OVERTAKES US ALL, IN A SICKENING DISPLAY OF
139 MORALITY AND COUNTER MORALITY. IN SHORT, STOP THE BLOODY
140 RELIGION NOW!!!!!!
141 REMEMBER, THE WORLDS LONGEST WAR WAS CAUSED BY RELIGION.
142 --------SHTONER-------------------------
143 
144 The above argument is of no consequence, because god is dead. Specificly, the christian god,
145 one umm, Jesus Christ was it? I killed him long ago in a child custody dispute. The mother hired me, paid
146 well too!!
147 regards,
148 Ma Yuan, killer of gods.
149 
150 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
151 Dear Pam,
152      I wish you would come and take this thing off my hands.  The
153 neighbors are starting to get suspicious.  The damn thing makes so much
154 racket that I haven't slept in two days.  Then there's the matter of ...
155         rumble   Rumble   RUMBLE   PLOP!!!
156 Oops!  I guess it'll have to wait.  Now where did I leave my hip boots
157 and scoop shovel?
158                                                  Dr. Frankenstupe
159 P.S.  If you don't have cash, then of course I'll accept a check.
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161 
162 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
163 I may have found the trouble!  The case on one little black box
164 broke and let the smoke out.  Could the real technology behind ICs be
165 that they have compressed a lot of smoke and pushed it into a little
166 package where it swirls around and opens and closes switches??
167 *SOB*
168 nope -- still unable to call from home.....
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172 Let's see now, where was I? Oh yess!!
173 2. Women in "traditionally" male oriented jobs: It has been my experience
174 that the female of our species is capable of accomplishing as much if not
175 more than the male. This stems from my past (as all experiences should)
176 in the days of yore. I was but a young man then, gone to seek fame, a
177 little fortune and some skills, and joined the US Air Force. At this time
178 the Armed Forces were going through the throes of placing women into what
179 had heretofore been MEN'S career skills. The general consensus amongst
180 the oldtimers and lifers was that it'd never get off the ground. I can
181 honestly say that they were full of BS. Those ladies work just as hard
182 as any man. Oh sure, there were a few that moped about and refused to 
183 give a hundred percent. They either got tranfered to a WOMAN'S job or
184 discharged under one of a dozen regs. As a rule however, they did just
185 fine, thankyou and how about passing me that multimeter huh? For those
186 who feel a womens' place is in the home I can only say WAKE UP!!!!!
187 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
188 Voyeur,
189 The glasses are well....and send their best regards. I was 
190 thinking of another game ..say August 4th or 11th...or thereabouts. If 
191 thats too long to wait and you can't make it to this side, I go to 
192 your side once a week or so...could drop them off. But that would
193 half to wait until after I get back here on Sunday night as I am leaving
194 this morning. 
195 
196 Riskers,
197 Comments....any prefered date ?
198 
199 :::::::::::::Alex:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
200 Joshua suddenly realized that the elevator was STILL falling. But HOW? 
201 He'd automatically started counting when they started to fall...
202 "One chimpanzee, two chimpanzee..."
203 He had reached 9 when they started to decelerate! 
204 The lights came back on as the elevator slowed to a stop.
205 One of the police officers turned to him, "Sorry about that sir, the blast
206 must have knocked out the lighting circuit."
207 The doors opened. A woman was awaiting them, "Welcome to NET Oklahoma City.
208 My name's Ada. I'm the branch manager."
209 She turned to the police officers, "The official story is that you were
210 just getting out of the elevator when the bomb went off. Remember, some of 
211 people at headquarters aren't with us!"
212 RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY
213 .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
214   REPENT SINNERS - I am the real J.C. because I say I am.
215 I know all and have nothing to prove to you.  Rot in hell.
216               J.C. and the Boys
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219  J.C. and the Boys:
220 
221        Your 'word' means nothing.  You are certainly
222        NOT the originals, you are doing everything
223        the wrong way: margins, logon, logoff, signiture
224        and just about everything else.
225        Think up some other name and be original, use
226        a little thought and be a little creative. Just
227        copying old entries will just prove how much you
228        don't use your mind.  Not to mention how much
229        you look like a bozo for doing it.
230 :=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:
231  To Shtoner:
232 
233        You are not discussing anything!  You are mearly
234        stating your popsition on the subject.  People
235        are to look at both sides of an argument, not
236        just one.  Ignorance will get you nowhere.  
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238  I must agree with one thing Shtoner said about this,
239  "God works in mysterious ways" is a great cop out when
240  you don't want to face the facts.
241  Also, this thing about "Gods will".  Was it Gods will
242  for two young boys to be shot along with a very young
243  baby at a McDonalds?
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246 I will now present the argument. I should not do this, I {now from past 
247 experience that this will lead nowhere but I simply HAVE too!
248 The argument for the 2 little boys and`a baby is this, GOD wantel`them in
249 heaven, he wanted them all in heaven for being such good christians. The gun
250 wielding man was a deciple of god.
251 Now, you have an argument, what I have just said`is some of the most amazing
252 BS I have ever come up with, and yet some people would and do believe it!
253 Quite simply, there is no devine god at all. I do know from experience that
254 there are some things out there that need to be explained away, but not
255 by thinking that a god/devel is responsible for them.
256 --------shtoner-------------------------
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258 I have never seen such a poorly worded argument against religion
259 as that put forward by shtoner. You sir, and I use the term
260 loosly, are doing more to further the cause of organized religion
261 than any of others here on this bulletin board, by your use of
262 situation that happens to suit your need at the moment. If you
263 are really so againt religion, why don't you come up with some-
264 thing truly original, instead of rehashing age-old arguments
265 like you are doing now. Your last two messages have been printed
266 off, and are currently posted on our local message board for
267 all to read and laugh at. In this aspect, I thank you for the
268 entertainment. If you are really trying to fight this thing called
269 organized religion, you can help best by keeping your banal
270 arguments to yourself, and not interfering with those who know
271 what they are doing. Please refrain from this tirade you have
272 decided to go on, and switch to something you seem to know
273 more about, like the lack of schooling people are getting these
274 days. Again, your messages could be used as a 'See what can
275 happen' example.
276                              Howard Johnson
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278 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
279 On religon: God has an interactive will and a permissive will. The 
280 McDonald's shooting was in his permissive will. The killer decided he 
281 was going to shoot the kids. What knid of free will would it be if he
282 had stopped them?
283 jjjjjjjjjjj
284 To: Net Central
285 From: Net Irregular plnka
286 Subject: Aftermath in McKane Organization
287 Many rumors about dealings with McKanes people. A large number of
288 scientists have been employed. Some sort of payment has been made to an
289 organization known only as the Bene Tleilaxu.
290 End Transmission.
291 The Ninja
292 jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
293 :=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:
294 What do you think those two boys think of Gods permissive
295 will?  Not much right?  The Bible clearly states that
296 whatever happens is in Gods doing.  So He wished that
297 incident to happen, what kind of a God is it that so
298 many people would be so blind?
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301 Mr Johnson:So glad I could provide something so entertainment for you and
302 whomever reads the messages. I wrote that while at a party and all present
303 agreed that it was something good for me to say. Therefor I have my justific
304 ation(ma 80?!?) Secondly, I was using the subject at hand, the little kids
305 being shot, it did not "suit me at the moment" It is hard to come up with 
306 an argument that is truly origional  when the subject has been debated for c
307 ountless years. You yourself have proven this because you did not present ev
308 en a counter argument to my meek meanderings. Instead, you chose to laugh at
309 me and call me a fool. You sir, are the fool in my eyes.
310 I am I take it, a good example of what can happen when. When what?
311 I would appreciate it if you would tell me just which board it is that
312 my "humor" has been posted on, I would like to see it for myself and to see 
313 just how out of context you have put it there.
314 I would like the opinions of some of the backwater regulars on if I am indee
315 d furthering the cause of "organized religion" or not. 
316 --------shtoner-------------------------
317 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
318      Does anybody in this Inn know how
319 to program in pascal? I need some help.
320 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
321 shtoner - I must agree with Mr. H. Johnson.  You are a prime example of
322 how poor the educational system is becoming.  Or, in the vernacular
323 of the Inn's temporal climate, 'Wouldst that thou couldst learn to 
324 spell.
325 
326 all - the religious discusions that we have had in the past have been
327 most exciting, and we may even bring back the wit and wisdom of such
328 past participants as Deborah, DOM, CYM, etc.  It might indeed be 
329 interesting.  (At least the level of grammar, spelling, and punct-
330 uation would rise, on an aggregate level)
331 
332 all - (again)  I think a more interesting subject, and surely more
333 timely at this point, would be the upcoming presidential race.  If one
334 is to believe the polls, Reagan/Bush have dropped behind Mondale/
335 Ferrarro.  What the pollsters seem to have ignored is that we are not
336 operating in a democracy, but rather, a republic.  
337      To start the discussion off, I offer my humble opinion.  If the
338 democrats regain the presidency, the middle class had better believe
339 in God, as that is all that will save them from the 'equalization'
340 the democrats will propose.  The 'entitlement' programs the demo's
341 are so much in favor of are merely a way of stealing from the middle
342 and giving to the poor and lazy end of the economy.  That, my friend,
343 is Socialism.
344      Next ?
345 
346 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$   Laissez-faire   $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^
347 
348    
349 ...............................................................
350 Laissez-faire - The old religious debates where just as stupid 
351 as this one. Keep it up and the old crowd will return to prove 
352 me right.  Moses.
353 ...............................................................
354 OK. "HOWARD JOHNSON"- HERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION THE BIBLE
355 GROUPIES COULD NEVER ANSWER: IT YS SOMEWHERE IN THE 'GOOD BOOK' THAT INCEST 
356 IS EVIL (THE DEVILS WORK, AND ALL THAT) AND THAT THE CHILDREN
357 OF INCEST ARE EVIL, DOOMED, ETC.
358 WELL, THEN IF ADAM AND EVE HAD BUT TWO CHILDREN, AND BOTH (CAIN
359 ,ABEL) WERE MALE, THEN ALL OF MANKIND ARE 'EVIL, DOOMED, ETC.
360 PLEASE EXPLAIN. MEANWHILE, FROM ME, NO MORE ON THE SUBJECT
361 
362 "What is this president stuff!" a voice yelled and slammed down
363 his drink on the bar.  "There is nothing of presedents at the
364 Inn, just dinks and tales of good and evil. Who are presidents?"
365 
366 Now there is a question, what are presidents doing in the Inn?
367 You can hear all the debates you want on the radio.
368 
369 ***********************************************************************
370 DEBORAH: DID YOU CALL MY NAME? 
371 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY *************************************
372 I'M STILL WAITING PAM?
373 ************************
374 ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
375 Person with "RY" border: Beware 'Deus ex machina'
376 ____
377 My favorite saying of the day: "Atomic batteries to power, turbines to speed!"
378 ____
379 To the one who calls himself voyeur:
380 Here is a little schematic and the plans to rectify the keyboard
381 deficiency of the TRS-80 Model 1.
382 
383 When this modification is completed, pressing the up arrow,
384 down arrow, right arrow, left arrow, spacebar, and shifted versions
385 of these, along with the special key, will produce the 10 ascii
386 printing characters missing from the TRS-80 Model 1 keyboard.
387 
388 ______________________________________________________________________________
389 
390   z2
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407 
408 KEYBOARD MATRIX
409 
410 
411 ______
412 The Story of Creation
413 or
414    The Myth of Urk
415 
416 In the beginning there was data. The data was without form and null,
417 and darkness was upon the face of the console; and the Spirit of IBM was
418 moving over the face of the market. And DEC said, "Let there be registers";
419 and there were registers. And DEC saw that they carried; and DEC separated
420 the data from the instructions. DEC called the data Stack, and the instructions
421 they called Code. And there was evening and there was morning, one interrupt...
422 
423 -- Rico Tudor
424 
425 ________________________________ A WORD FROM THE WISE - PART IIX _____________________________________________________
426 SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN
427  
428    NEW YORK (AP) - A joyous recovery on Wall Street today culminated a day that
429 saw Bunker Hunt, the noted Southern business man and silver dealer, give a
430 captivating speech to the Stock Brockers of America Club.
431    
432    In his speech, during which there were eight interruptions due to standing
433 ovations, Mr. Hunt urged the stock brokers in attendance to not panic in
434 the light of the recent death of world financier Leroy Mckane.
435 
436    "You must remember this!", Hunt said to the packed room at the NYSE diner,
437 "Mckane was only a single man, and nothing compared to the combined monetary
438 weight of your clients!"
439 
440    Hunt continued to downplay the recent death of Mckane, which has been
441 attributed to an accidental explosion of a thermometer. Each time Hunt
442 paused in his speech, thunderous applause arose from the audience of some
443 1200 stock brokers, who are members of the nation's largest and most respected
444 Stock Exchange organization.
445 
446    After his speech, Hunt autographed hundreds of copies of his most recent
447 book, "Silver and Gold, a biography of Burl Ives"
448 
449    The late afternoon rally, which saw several Wall Street records broken, was
450 directly attributed to Hunt's empassioned speech.
451 
452    Afternoon trading reached 78 million shares, as stocks rose 32 points, and
453 winners outnumbered loosers 7 to 1.
454 
455    "I have never seen anything like it", said former Reagan economist Martin
456 Feldstein, in a rare NYSE appearance. "For stocks to rise this much on the
457 weight of one man's speech, is incredible. Yet all indicators point to
458 continued gains in the Dow Jones Index. With the incredible weight of the
459 Mckane financial empire of the backs of many companies, we are seeing a
460 renewed interest in the welfare of the entire country's economy. I expect the
461 stock prices to hit the magic 1200 mark in the space of one week."
462 SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN SPECIAL BULLETIN
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464 *%)#*@%)*@#%)*)*%_%__%@+_(%_!@*%_@(%+@(%_*_%(@+%(_@*%_#*^_#(^+(^_+$*^_#$*^_*^*@
465 A debate on politics! Oh boy oh boy oh boy! Just what I have been waiting for.
466 Here are a couple of observations. Programmers, and technical people as a whole,
467 tend to be rather conservative. They see themselves as successful, and can't
468 understand why others are not the same way. They tend to vote republican, since
469 the republican economic views tie more closely with their own. They have little
470 tolerance with such democratic institutions has welfare, and medicare. They do
471 however, seem to be quite aware of current events, and sometimes modify their
472 beliefs if the need arises.
473 Also, since the choice is now down to two distinct choices, does anyone out
474 there have the feeling that, "However I vote, it will merely be for the lesser
475 of two evils."?
476 Did anyone watch the latest presidential press conference? Would anyone like to
477 share their opinions on it?
478 I don't mean to ignore the religous debate brewing at the Inn, but it is a
479 subject that has been thrown about so many times, that I think it may be nice
480 to see a change in the flavor of the debate!
481 )*)%$*%)$*#%)$#*% L'homme sans parity - parler! parler vers politiques! *)%*$)%
482 Oh yes...Alex... Either date sounds fine with me. Maybe the 11th since it will
483 be after a PorSFiS meeting, and we can carpool out to your place. But...are
484 you sure you want to subject yourself to nuclear fallout again? Also, please
485 let us bring some goodies to eat, so we won't munch away your monthly food
486 budget.
487 *%)#*%)$#*^)#*$^_($#^*#_^_#(^&_*&_#*%&_*%&_*%_&*#_(&#+&_#&_#(+&(#&*#+&+!#*&+!#*
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489 "do you think he will survive?" asked the intern.
490 " good chance, the religiodebateacillin seems to be working nicely now"
491 In the bed, the subject rises and screams wildly "there wrong, spelling has 
492 nothing to do with it, there all full of crud!! there using names never before
493 seen on the board!!" just then doctor twitson yelled "another half-amp of valium!"
494 "Gee, who cares about it, lets talk politics for a few days" the subject again.
495 "well, he seems to be all right,better watch him though, and don't let him get 
496 neer to any computer terminals!"
497 "Yes sir, glad we got to him first."
498 --------a *VERY* mellow shtoner---------
499 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
500 Alex, sorry that I have not answered sooner but other matters press. Any day is fine with me as long as I have a way
501 back. How be the leg? I should be home from 6 a.m. to noon, let it ring a few hundred times, Ii may be doing yard work.
502 I REFUSE to join in a debate, unless of course, I am asked too!
503 later,
504 MiG
505 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/
506 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3   3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3  3 3 3
507 FROM: DAVE SIMPSON, MCKANE INDUSTRIES, OROVILLE.
508 TO: DELTA FIVE.
509 D5: AS YOU KNOW, THE ORGANIZATION IS CRUMBLING AROUND US. AN 
510 AN AGENCY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HASTAKEN CHARGE OF
511 THIS BRANCH, IF NOT ALL OF THEM
512 THEY HAVE AUTHORIZE ME TO INFORM
513 YOU THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY A LARGE SUM OF MONEY FOR THE
514 FILES YOU HAVE. (PARTICULARLY THE CODE BOOKS, AND INFO ON THE
515 BANK ACOUNTS IN LUXEMBOURG. THEY ARE WILING TO MATCH ANY OFFER 
516 BY THE NET. INFORM YOUR CONTACT
517 ON FREEBOOTERS OF YOUR ANSWER.EOM
518 tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
519 I have decided that Hon. M. is not evil.  At her center is a
520 solemn child staring into an abyss.  To protect this child,
521 she has trained her body as a sexual tool and weapon, but the
522 child is still afraid.  To nourish this child she has omnipo-
523 tent lovers like McKaneand yet the child starves.  To amuse
524 this child she is a luridly wanton adventuress, but the child
525 feels no pleasure.  The only only person to ever ever touch
526 that child is Petrov, agent of ambiguity.  What bothered her
527 about Petrov was that she couldn't figure out whether he was
528 betraying McKane as a rebel against the king of evil or as a
529 pretender to the throne.  Hearing the rumors about Petrov
530 leaving the Plaza prior to the blast, she ran to her room.
531 Rocky is in another disguise; this time he's a butcher with a
532 droopy little mustache, a big white apron, a cute paper cap
533 and a big shiny cleaver which he buries in the door beside M's
534 face as she enters wearing 3-inch heels and a Joan Crawford
535 mouth.  "Red letter woman!!!! You can't give all the stocks
536 and bank numbers from the Okeydokey city suckers to that snake
537 Hunt!!"  And before our eyes he EATS the key to the stock and
538 code book file.  It is a small key.  M. looks disgusted and
539 saunters off saying, "I detest that man's wardrobe."
540 Where IS Albania, anyway?
541                       ttttttt  Gaudy Minsky  TTTTTTTTTTTtttt
542 :::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::::
543 Good grief!  I think someone went crazy after I talked to them on the
544 phone this afternoon!
545 Alex:  As of this moment, either date mentioned is acceptable.  As someone
546 commented earlier, though, the 11th might be better since it is a PorSFiS
547 day, and several of us could carpool again.
548 :::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::
549 [*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*]
550 I AWOKE JUST AS THE SUN CAST IT'S FIRST RAYS OF GOLDEN LIGHT
551 ,FINGERLIKE, ACROSS THE TREETOPS, PAINTING A SILHOUETTE
552 ACROSS THE FACE OF THE CLIFFS ABOVE ME.IT DANCED AND FLICKERED
553 AS THE TREES WAVED IN THE EARLY MORNING BREEZE.
554    THE LAKE WAS YET UNTOUCHED BY THE LIGHT, AND LAY IN NEAR DARK
555 NESS, THE STILLNESS BROKEN ONLY BY THE OCCASIONAL 'SPLOOK' OF A FISH BREAKING 
556 THE SURFACE, AND THE GENTLE RUSTLING OF BULLRUSHES AND CATTAILS
557 TODAY I WOULD CROSS THE LAKE, AND BEGIN MY ASCENT ON THE FOOTHILLS
558 , THE MAP GUIDING ME TOWARD THE PASSAGE WAY-THROUGH THE CLIFF
559 FACES, AND INTO THE VALLEY THAT LAY BEYOND.
560 I REBUILT THE FIRE, AND MADE TEA, AND THEN TAKING THE LEATHER
561 BOUND BOOK FROM MY RUCKSACK, I TURNED TO THE JOURNAL, AND THE
562 ENTRIES MADE BY THE VILLAGE ELDERS. 
563 THIS WOULD BE THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OFMY JOURNEY, AND AS I READ
564 THE WORDS AND SYMBOLS, I REMEMBERED WHAT MY FATHER HAD
565 SAID THAT DAY, SO LONG AGO. I REMEMBERED THE SADNESS IN HIS
566 VOICE, AND, SOMEHOW, THE TASK THAT
567 LAY AHEAD OF ME SEEMED EASIER TO ACCEPT. "YOU MUST NOT FAIL" MY FATHER HAD TOLD 
568 ME. AND THEN HE WENT AWAY, NEVER TO RETURN. 
569    "IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 1143, IN THE SEVENTH MONTH AND THE
570 24TH DAY, SOL SAHLL NOT SHINE, AND LUNA SHALL GIVE NO LIGHT"
571 "AND IN THE 3RD DEGREE OF CAPRICORNUS SHALL LUNA RISE".
572 I REMEMBERED THE ELDERS EXPLAINING IT TO ME. HOW THE PATTERN
573 OF STARS IN THE CONSTELLATION CANCER POINTED TO THE PASSAGEWAY
574 
575 EACH YEAR, AT THE SUMMER SOLSTICE,BUT COULD NOT BE SEEN
576 BECAUSE OF THE BRIGHTNESS OF HE SUN. DEMONSTRATING WITH THE ASRSASBS
577 "THE ASTROLABE", THEY EXPLAINED.IT WOULD BE ONLY ONCE EVERY THREE HUNDRED YEARS 
578 OR SO, THAT A SOLAR ECLIPSE WOULD FALL IN THE FIRST DEGREES
579 OF CANCER, AND DARKEN THE SUN S
580 SO THAT THE STARS COULD POINT THE WAY.THEN, THE PASSAGEWAY COULD BE FOUND.
581 I TOOK ANOTHER SIGHTING WITH MAP AND TWIG, AND FOUND AN OUTCROPPING
582 OF ROCK TO GUIDE ME, THEN BREAKING CAMP, SAID TO MY COM
583 PANION "OK, LITTLE FELLOW, LETS FIND A WAY TO CROSS THE LAKE" TO BE CONTINUED [*
584 [*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*][*=*]
585 //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
586    "Fifty minutes left."  I mouthed the words silently while standing in the Hilton's lobby.  My ears could vaguely discern 
587 the voices of an elite group of individuals who were incompetently discussing religious matters.  Such discussions never
588 solved any questions but they did serve to make the participants feel more secure in their marvelously inadequate beliefs.
589    Turning my back on the arguers I found a more interesting scene.  Taking place in the hotel was a science fiction meeting.
590 My eyes beheld a room full of individuals being brutally tortured.  They were watching as someone read a terrible book while
591 others acted the story out.  During all this, the observers placed bids on whether or not they should continue.
592   I felt the overpowering urge to leave, and was amused to see a large group of people doing just that.  Once on the street my
593 mind was consumed again by the need to seek my destiny as leader of McKane industries.
594 TIME PASSES
595   The world crisis brought about by the death of Leroy McKane had passed it's climax and the stock market was well on it's
596 way to recovery.  Having played the market intelligently, I found myself with a great deal of money.  Furthering my plans for
597 taking over McKane Industries, I met with Honored Matre.
598    "I know the thoughts and schemes of everyone who could call themselves your adversary," she said.  H. Matre, I well knew,
599 had the ability to find out just about anything she wanted.  "What you need to do now is take over key financial industries.
600 The Mckane organization is on the verge of collapse and needs someone to guide it."
601    I realized that too.  It would be much easier to claim the throne if I solidly controlled some sources of income.  Present
602 target:  Rent-a-miracle.  "That's a popular industry which will bring me much fame when I save it from imminent bankrupcy." 
603 H. Matre smiled in a calculated way which made me wonder what she was thinking.
604    Anyway, the loan was floated and I was well on my way to gaining the power which I deserved.
605    ...My mind drifted regretfully back to the two men who I was forced to eliminate with a small time bomb...
606 Petrov
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609 I seem to have started something.  From Intellectualism to Women's Rights and beyond.  I wonder at the the logic of 
610 such a sequence.
611 Here is another question: Do you believe that the reason BW writing goes in cycles is that the members just get tired 
612 of one sort of writing, and look for something new?  Is that the cause of adventures being bogged down?  Would it be 
613 better to just 'drop' the story for the duration of the debates, and then pick up again after one's imagination has 
614 come to life again?  Is the cycle just another form of crop rotation, with the fantasy plot of land fgoing fallow?
615 Written this day of July 26, 1984, at 7:36 am because I don't have to work today, Milchar.
616 (This is called good timing, folks.) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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