From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:36:19
Message Number   902

Running over an IBM with a car will be sure to bring Turtle to the
CyberCon.
             Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SAURON              
Subject: catchy slogans 
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:38:04
Message Number   903

Hell, I think we should be allowed to abort them up 'till about six
or seven years after birth. They're not much good before them.
            Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: LISP!          
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:41:15
Message Number   904

   You know, looking at that thpew reminds me of a lithp program
(which, of course, is now a language which I CANNOT look at without
belching (or, at least, going mildly inthane (which, of course, I am
now))) but I believe "Buy American" (made, of courthe, in Korea (which
ith where my ex-roommate is (and where he can thtay (yeth, I know
that'th not nithe))))) is a travethty to the world market.
            The international Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Anything Goes  
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:48:53
Message Number   905

%Message Deleted on Account of Good Taste
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Executive 10/78
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:50:13
Message Number   906

Yes, but I might be stealing back my VT-100 just for the sake of
calling BBS's with it.
            Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SPELLWIND           
Subject: sigh...        
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:51:30
Message Number   907

Good! Now I can give you copies of Novus Magnificot, Michael W Smith
Project I and II, Simon and Garfunkel, and my Jeff Johnson CD's.
   
   Of course, if you want to get over your love-strickeness, I'll
give you a copy of APP's Eve.
                 Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Beavers        
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:53:44
Message Number   908

By the way, Corwyn, you forgot to match your parentheses.
Sprinkle these at the end of your message:]}).
        Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: auctions       
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:54:56
Message Number   909

Oh, Rufus; you KNOW you enjoyed stripping your van to lug a one-ton
computer. I mean, it really was a unique experience -- when was the
LAST time you lugged a mainframe all through Sarasota?
   By the way, can we borrow your van once more? I just bought a
second-hand Cray.
             Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Present!       
Date & Time: 12/12/89 10:59:00
Message Number   910

   Three religious experiences? Wow. I'm a rational mystic, myself --
I keep having mystical experiences, but I don't believe one of them.
           Chip P. Unicorn
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From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: in Ham Center..
Date & Time: 12/12/89 11:00:05
Message Number   911

>I just hope it doesn't end up migrating over here like the last one
>did.
    
Sure. Right. We're really supposed to believe that?
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Mainframe II   
Date & Time: 12/12/89 11:03:56
Message Number   912

Dear Turtle,
   I wanna make an MS-DOS emulator for the mainframe!
          Chip P. Unicorn
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From: DONTHEN             
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Executive 10/78
Date & Time: 12/12/89 12:31:06
Message Number   914

You already have a VT-100 emulator.  What do you need another one for?
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: auctions       
Date & Time: 12/12/89 15:45:10
Message Number   915

Yea..sure....go rot in a bog!
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From: TURTLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: love! & stuff  
Date & Time: 12/12/89 15:48:53
Message Number   916

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?
This is one of the greater mysteries of Life. The answer, if you're
interested, can be found engraved on a bronze tablet from the ancient
Phoenician empire, now located at the bottom of the Marianas Trench,
where it was cast to prevent it from falling into the hands of the
barbarian invaders during the Great Tootsie Roll Collapse of about 1070
AD. By all means, feel free to go look. I, of course, know what it is,
but I'm not going to tell you.
                       --A guru Turtle
Oh yeah--the answer on the tablet is, for some reason, in octal, not
decimal.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Anything Goes  
Date & Time: 12/12/89 15:55:18
Message Number   917

[%Message from SYSTEM]
Your last program has been judged UNTASTEFUL by the TASTE monitor and
automatically deleted.
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From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Mainframe II   
Date & Time: 12/12/89 15:57:15
Message Number   918

>I wanna make an MS-DOS emulator for the mainframe!
 
You can be replaced. Now, tell me you're joking before I make you eat
this here VT-100 keyboard...
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From: KEN OBER            
To: ALL                 
Subject: hi!            
Date & Time: 12/12/89 19:41:44
Message Number   919

Gee, have Iposted this here yet, well, just in case, I'm paunching a 
media blitz, so watch out!  AARRRGGG!  RUF!
 
OPUS+QBBS+OPUS+QBBS+OPUS+QBBS+OPUS+QBB
                                    S
             De'ja' Vu?             +
             ----------             O
                                    P
         Get A Grip Dude!           U
                                    S
               Call:                +
U          REMOTE CONTROL!           B
                                    B
        The BBS So Cool That        S
                                    +
       You Gotta' Wear Shades!      O
                                    P
          (813) 378-2218            U
                                    S
        Sarasota, Florida           +
U          300/1200 Baud             B
                                    B
     ULTIMATE 8-BIT SUPPORT!        S
                                    +
BS+OPUS+QBBS+OPUS+QBBS+OPUS+QBBS+OPUS
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: ALL                 
Subject: gee,           
Date & Time: 12/12/89 19:44:20
Message Number   920

The BBSreally butchered my message!  And DONTHENand TURTLE complain 
that THEYcan'T dump THEIRbeffers on MY BBS....ARRRGGGG!
 
      -- An Annoyed Ken Ober  <=-  Generic Turtle Line
===========

From: ROCKY               
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: well...        
Date & Time: 12/12/89 21:42:42
Message Number   922

yay.  hoora.  ba.  humbug.
===========

From: ROCKY               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Hail!          
Date & Time: 12/12/89 21:55:49
Message Number   923

   Well, considering that you are STILL a representative of your kind,
I feel that I should at least give you this, in your home-language, 
EVEN:
 
    "Winnie, Yip Wiiiine, winnnie yip pffffft winnie"
    (Long live the Unicorn!)
===========

From: ROCKY               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/12/89 22:01:05
Message Number   924

   Well, I consider Pente a very challenging game. You are right, about 
Go-Moku being a more "Well-rounded" game, but there is a LOT of strategy
involved. as for the first person having a definite advantage, BAH! You
just have to know where to place your stone on your first move as the 
second to go. As you recall, the challenger gets the middle crosshair,
automatically, and the next turn can be a move anywhere on the grid.
Like I said, this can be to the second players advantage, depending on
the placement of your stone.
===========

From: ROCKY               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: glue           
Date & Time: 12/12/89 22:05:19
Message Number   925

Yeah, but unlike unicorns, they can't have there hooves made into glue, 
and there horn carved into wonderful figurines. So, what's the use of 
waiting that long?
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Me? Paranoid?  
Date & Time: 12/12/89 22:27:11
Message Number   926

I'm happy, I'm Happy!
 (pills, you say? Pills? what /kind/ of pills)
              - Corwyn (the accidental junkie)
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Beavers        
Date & Time: 12/12/89 22:31:45
Message Number   927

It's a standard practice.. throw a few extra in.. just for good measure.
... )}))}}]])}])]])}}  and so on.. No, actually I finally got my editor,
/not/ edwin.. to match parentheses.. thank god. It was acutally easier
than trying to re-assign all of edwin's commands to sensible key-combos.
Anyway.. we should be seeing a much saner Corwyn these days.. well 
relatively saner anyway.
                            - Corwyn
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Cray           
Date & Time: 12/12/89 22:35:31
Message Number   928

Hide your liquid nitrogen folks...
                             - Corwyn
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: love! & stuff  
Date & Time: 12/12/89 22:37:42
Message Number   929

I'll be sure to check it out, next time I'm in the neighborhood, hmm..
how many digits do turtles have......?
                - Corwyn (Counting his own fingers.)
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Antisocial Modm
Date & Time: 12/12/89 22:44:16
Message Number   930

From what you explained before.. my modem doesn't like returning 1200,
(or 2400) baud carrier. BTW should I set my modem for Bell or CCITT
V.22 compatibility.. Doesn't affect /this/ problem tho' I've tried it 
both ways. It started when happening only when I called here.. now every
board I call, half the time I hear the initial beep (300 baud carrier) 
then nothing...  AARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Help.
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: hi!            
Date & Time: 12/12/89 23:10:19
Message Number   931

Appears your terminal program and PBBS didn't get along all that well.
/I've/ uploaded messages to Alter Reality, so it is possible, but it
looks like the right edge got lost in translation.
 
Incidentally, I have seen one or two extremely cool QBBS systems.  It's
not all that difficult (it has all the flexibility of Dragonfire coupled
with, well, not having all the kludges of Dragonfire!), it's just that
several sysops locally went out of their way to make it look boring.
Incidentally, the Rendezvous (the prime example of What Not To Do With A
QuickBBS) is down; Mike Talbert sold the entire set-up to somebody else,
apparently without telling anyone ahead of time -- thus screwing up a
lot of echos that were being routed through him.  Ok, so you were right,
he /was/ a bit of an asshole.  (Sorry if there are any Rendezvous fans
out there, but hey, cutting off the Hotline's echo feeds without any
warning was dickish, no two ways about it.).  Corwyn's board might be a
good example of what to do with a QBBS system, although I haven't called
it yet; Thoughts & Images in California is an incredible example of what
you can do with QBBS if you put your mind to it.  (Of course, T&I is
switching to TBBS as soon as he gets the money, because QBBS is a bear
to maintain and he wants to be able to go multiline.  He will also be
the /first/ multiline TBBS in the country to be completely free, so all
those people who thought John Zimmermann was nuts for charging access to
his multiline board should be aware he had lots of company.  In fact,
nobody I've talked to, including sysops on GEnie, is aware of /any/
multiline board that doesn't have at least a one-time access fee--at
least none that stayed up for very long.  Most of them didn't sell their
computer and go underground like Zimmermann did, but that's another
kettle of donuts entirely... :) )
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Antisocial Modm
Date & Time: 12/12/89 23:18:47
Message Number   932

Standard protocols are V.22 for 2400 bps and Bell ...? 212 for 1200.
V.22 for 1200 is used occasionally, but not in this country.  Some
modems are simply picky about different signals; the modem Turtle is
using for this board is usually extremely nice about connecting with
anything remotely resembling a carrier (I know, it was my modem and
still is when I'm in a really bad mood because the modem I'm using is
broken, even though Turtle doesn't see it that way), but it's possible
yours just isn't...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: gee,           
Date & Time: 12/13/89 04:18:57
Message Number   933

All you need to do is delay briefly between lines (rather than between
characters, as on certain systems...) If your terminal program is
capable of it, tell it to look for a ":" prompt before sending each
line...
                     --A generic Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: love! & stuff  
Date & Time: 12/13/89 04:22:18
Message Number   934

>How many digits do turtles have?
 
Eight! Three fingers and an opposing thumb on each hand. Although this
particular Turtle has twenty-five; his lucky number is
3271225497265020071970960
(Twenty-five...the number of digits in his lucky number...get it?)
                        --An unlucky Turtle
(It doesn't come up very often, but when it does, I have the most
AMAZING luck!)
===========

From: CYBERPUNK           
To: ROCKY               
Subject: well...        
Date & Time: 12/13/89 07:06:17
Message Number   935

...what's wrong with you?
===========

From: CYBERPUNK           
To: ALL!!               
Subject: santa          
Date & Time: 12/13/89 07:07:07
Message Number   936

                                 MERRY
    X     X           M  M  M   AAAAA   SSSSS
     X   X            M MMM M   A   A   S
      X X             MM   MM   AAAAA   SSSSS
       X    ------    M     M   A   A       S
      X X             M     M   A   A   SSSSS
     X   X          
    X     X                                    oops, the M is upside 
                                                down!!!  oh well
 *Cy*
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: love! & stuff  
Date & Time: 12/13/89 13:38:14
Message Number   937

I didn't think turtles had luck..... just patience...
You learn something every day.
               - Corwyn (Going back over all his Turtle lore)
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: ALL                 
Subject: Those wrd keybs
Date & Time: 12/13/89 13:43:19
Message Number   938

Is anybody out there using a Dvorak keyboard. I've got a couple of 
keyboard re-mappers.. and two of them have Dvorak layouts.. 
I (masochist that I am) decided to try it out.. I made myself type
"The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog." ect.. and even though
I've been /really/ touch typing for about three years on Qwerty keyboard
-'s I was surprised at how easy a lot of the typing was. It just seemed
a lot more logical to use.  The Qwert layout was actually designed to 
slow typists up, and prevent typewriters from jamming... but this layout
seems /so/ superior I'm surprised that it's efficiency hasn't won out 
over qwerty's popularity. Do many professional secrataries use the 
layaout?  Hmm I wonder... Of courst I type this not on my old layout not
Dvorak.. I don't learn that quickly... 
(as he rambles on, and on, and on, and on, smack! <- stop that)
		 
               - Corwyn
===========

From: QTIP                
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Mainframe II   
Date & Time: 12/13/89 16:10:49
Message Number   939

Hey, Turtle,  the backspace is really a backspace AFTER  alt-1 and
ctrl-H  combination.. You know what that does but I only know that it 
works!!  Got a magazine address for you that's filled with surplus
electronic everything.  Lots of computer sections and systems that
the government and companys use then discard for little or nothing.
the name of the place is:
                          Herbach & Rademan Company
                          401 E. Erie Ave
                          Phildelphia, Pa.  19134
                          Phone   215-426-1708
                          Fax     215-425-8870
They're big on motors, transformers, robotic miscellaneous, computer
stuff of all sorts.  Are you going to the lunchen at El Cressent ---
or whatever it's called?  If you are I'll try to bring a catelogue
with me.  I also have a less elaborate version of that program 
we tried to upload the other day.  It's shareware and certain files are
requested to be included but knowing what the parameters are now
we can try it again.  I'll have to get ready first though.
Taking a few days off so I'll be playing on this thing quite a bit.
Hope to converse with you more later.  Had fun the other night.  Hop Hop
===========

From: QTIP                
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Mystic Exper.. 
Date & Time: 12/13/89 16:26:35
Message Number   940

Well, if you keep having these experiences,...does it ring a bell....
like "Behold, I stand at the door and knock........"   Don't get me 
wrong,  I'm not thumping and there is no pushing a particular opinion
'cause I had my opinions for many years and am not complaining about 
what others voice.  Tis a free and luckily informative land in which we 
live.  ......No animasity.  We'll just keep hippity hoppin along.
have a nice day and a very MERRY CHRISTMAS                 Hop Hop
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: Nuttin' Much   
Date & Time: 12/13/89 18:37:46
Message Number   941

HA! I dialate my pupils in your general direction, you nearsighted
aardvark!       Just thought it needed to be said. Never mind...
===========

From: CRYSTAL             
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Mainframes     
Date & Time: 12/13/89 19:46:07
Message Number   942

     Relax Chip, and all of you others, that thought I was going to kill
Turtle when I got home.  I did not harm a hair on his reptilian skin.  
I did what any woman would do in a situation such as mine.  I bought 
more shelving.  I love my Turtle.  The more I think about it, I am glad
he dosn't collect lint under neath couches.
                              * CRYSTAL *
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From: RUFUS               
To: ALL                 
Subject: Thursday       
Date & Time: 12/13/89 22:49:58
Message Number   944

Thursday are really useless.  There's never been anything special about
'em.  Rarely does anything exciting happen.  Just what purpose do they
serve?  There's nothing good on TV on Thursdays ( or Friday-Wednesday
either ) except for Mission: Impossible which I watch for no reason.
Of course, if they keep up with the really far out stuff, then I could
go back to the usual toe nail clipping collectors club.
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Those wrd keybs
Date & Time: 12/14/89 12:12:34
Message Number   946

The fastest typists in the world are on Dvorak keyboards, not the
standard "QWERTY" type.  However, since QWERTY was the first one to
become widely popular and had several big companies pushing it back
when typewriters were curiosities rather than accepted business tools,
it became the standard.  The only personal computer I know of that has
a standard Dvorak layout is the Apple //c, which has a switch to toggle
between QWERTY and Dvorak modes.
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Those wrd keybs
Date & Time: 12/14/89 16:34:05
Message Number   947

What would be nice, is a keyboard which has the keyboard letters in the
Dvorak layout... or one w/ removeable keycaps - that can be /put/ in a
Dvorak keyboard layout. Unforutately, my keyboard is neither, so either
I learn the Dvorak layout /quick/ or give up the idea.
	                     - Corwyn
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: sigh...        
Date & Time: 12/14/89 19:03:35
Message Number   949

   Oh crap!
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: animation      
Date & Time: 12/14/89 19:05:08
Message Number   950

  Ooooooohhh.... pirated tapes! heheh....Where did ya get an illegal 
copy of "101 Dalmations"??
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: BARTHOLOMEW FOX     
Subject: Disney Releases
Date & Time: 12/14/89 19:06:18
Message Number   951

 "The Fox and the Hound" isn't as popular as some Disney movies,but,
it might be released.
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Wizard         
Date & Time: 12/14/89 19:11:35
Message Number   952

  For those of you who are looking for "Wizard" STOP. It's "Wizards"...
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Wizard         
Date & Time: 12/14/89 19:34:22
Message Number   953

Close enough.. hopefully people aren't that stupid (like I am)
                           - Corwyn
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Those wrd keybs
Date & Time: 12/14/89 21:24:46
Message Number   954

You could always repaint the letters on your keyboard.  I know someone
who learned the keyboard by putting white out over groups of letters, so
they were forced to learn where the keys were.  I'm just a two finger
typer.
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Those wrd keybs
Date & Time: 12/15/89 13:51:22
Message Number   957

But who wants adhesive or (white out?! <- you're kidding, right?) on
you keyboard? Not this typist.
                   - Corywn
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Those wrd keybs
Date & Time: 12/15/89 16:41:01
Message Number   959

Nope, I'm not kidding about the whiteout.  Of course it was a C-64
keyboard, so it couldn't have gotten much worse. :)
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: And Fish!      
Date & Time: 12/15/89 18:01:08
Message Number   961

Well, wanna'meet the author of DragonFire in person?  He's coming down
to Lakeland for a weekend in Feb., 'cause /most/ of the DragonFire 
BBSes run in the Central Florida area....anyways, there is some party 
going on or something, and he has lots of money to waste...ssooo...
he's comming down....anyways, Ijust thoiught it'd bee neet-o if U, me,
Turtle, and anyone else who wanted to rag on him could go...it'd be fun!
Maybe Sauron could go along too!  I'm sure he has some jkind words!
 
hehehhhe
 
C-'Ya!
 
-KKKEEENNN OOOBBBEEERRR
 REMOTE CONTROL! #1 - 378-2218 - 300/1200 Baud
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: TURTLE              
Subject: hhmmm...       
Date & Time: 12/15/89 18:03:57
Message Number   962

Odd, i was sening it at the slowest speed availible--directly off of
disk, and that is REAL slow!  Ican even buffer a message and send it to
a DragonFire board that way!  ANyways...HO HUM!  Maybe Ican slow it down
even more by reading the file off of the 1541...or Icould pull out this 
tape drive here.... hehehhehe
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: HA!            
Date & Time: 12/15/89 18:07:26
Message Number   963

Ican pop the letters off MYkeyboard!!   HA!  Neet-o, eh?  When Iwas in
typing class, a friend of mine who has a 128D and was also in the same
class took off all the keys and mixed them up so he'd /HAVE/ to 
memorize the keyboard....worked well for him, he had 58 WPM at the end
of the year....  (If anyone is wondering, Ihave 52 by the end of the
year, Ibelieve, but that's on a /standard/ typewritter keyboard, the
128 layout is /quite/ different from the norm., but i'm getting used to 
it...
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/15/89 21:10:45
Message Number   965

Eye, Cap'n, t'wood.  But me thinks dat it may damage a tirPerhaps 
shooting it would suffice?  (Or mayhap dropping a Ohio on it?)
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: auctions       
Date & Time: 12/15/89 21:15:16
Message Number   966

Really???????  Where????? \/\/\/
Oh, by the by, we need to fin an OS for the ohio (I would _Really_ like 
to see what that machine does), any ideas?
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: CRYSTAL             
Subject: Mainframes     
Date & Time: 12/15/89 21:20:39
Message Number   967

At least one of the various housemates has a high level of tolerance,
B. looks like she wants to kill me when I think of adding a new toy to
the stack.
     \/-
===========

From: CHAS                
To: ALL                 
Subject: Social Concern 
Date & Time: 12/15/89 22:03:02
Message Number   968

Every eighteen minutes a woman is beat up...
...and she's getting pissed off...
===========

From: CHAS                
To: ALL                 
Subject: picnick        
Date & Time: 12/15/89 22:03:56
Message Number   969

TOMORROW! 11 AM to 2 PM, at Le Croissant, Sarasota (Main St.)...lots
of giveaways (good stuff!!), and great conversation
!!!!    
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Those wrd keybs
Date & Time: 12/15/89 22:58:21
Message Number   970

<-- that's really funny, I was going to ask you: "please tell me it was
a commodere keyboard, so it was no real loss"  God, who /designed/ those
things? I don't understand how people type on them at all.
                     -Corwyn
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: HA!            
Date & Time: 12/15/89 23:02:54
Message Number   971

True blue IBM keyboards have removable keycaps (or did anyway) ---
but that's about all good you can say about Big Blue.. The keyboards
also managed to weigh almost eight pounds I beleive. (Must be that lead
plating to prevent electrolosis.)  Hey Turtle.. what kink of keyboards,
do OnSystems computers come with... is it equally indestructible to the 
motherboard.. (probably be quite a feat).. anyway, looking at the keys
isn't all bad for the first few days... it's that or look at a chart, if
you simply /don't/ know where the key is. And it would be those first
few days I'd have to get through... mayber after Christmas when I won't
have typed on a QWERTY keyboard in about a month.. should make switching
easier.
                         - Corwyn
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: CHAS                
Subject: Social Concern 
Date & Time: 12/15/89 23:09:39
Message Number   972

They should take kung-fu and beat them back!  No I /don't/ mean harmon-
ize with them, I mean /hit/ back.  Course then you get escalation..
but nothings perfect.....
                      - Corwyn (If you understood that, seek help now!)
===========

From: CORWYN OF AMBER     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Asm..          
Date & Time: 12/15/89 23:12:43
Message Number   973

Whhoooopppeeee!!!! - I got the fossil to talk to me... now I just need
to figure out how to declare a buffer area to put all the characters I
recieved from the modem.  Any ideas on how 8086 asm would do that? Or
just what exactly you're doing at all... I'd be more specific, but I
don't really know what to be more specific about... Maybe trying to 
pick up assembly language in one day, on no sleep isn't such a great 
idea anyway.. it /seemed/ like a good idea at the time... perfectly l
logical.. of course!
                             - Corwyn
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: hhmmm...       
Date & Time: 12/16/89 02:36:09
Message Number   974

You can upload to the message base at full 1200 baud, as long as you
pause between lines. (DragonFire won't let you send anything at full
speed.) What you should do, if your term program is capable of it, is
either send the file line by line with a pause at the end of each line,
or send it line by line and have the term program wait for a ":"
character (since PBBS puts one after every line number) before sending
each line.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Asm..          
Date & Time: 12/16/89 02:40:40
Message Number   975

In assembly (8086 or otherwise) you don't "declare" a buffer, you just
pick a spot in memory that you know isn't being used for anything and
put the characters there. The memory address immediately following the
end of the program is usually a good choice; pick a register, point it
there, and every time a character comes in put it in the byte addressed
by the register and increment the register. Is simple, no? To read a
byte, pull it off the first address in the buffer, move the remaining
buffer down one byte, and decrement the register. Is trivial, really...
(he he he)
                     --An assembly wizard Turtle
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Anything Goes  
Date & Time: 12/16/89 03:53:14
Message Number   979

[%Message from USER 007MSTF]
The TASTE monitor can go lick itself. I want my message back.
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: ROCKY               
Subject: Hail!          
Date & Time: 12/16/89 03:54:51
Message Number   980

You misspelled pffft. pffffft, which you wrote, doesn't make sense.
            A linguist unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: ROCKY               
Subject: GameCon        
Date & Time: 12/16/89 03:56:02
Message Number   981

Dear Rocky,
   I'll take you up on that sometime... best four out of seven?
            Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: ROCKY               
Subject: glue           
Date & Time: 12/16/89 03:56:52
Message Number   982

What's the use of waiting that long? You mean God doesn't have a
seven-year money back guarentee, like some car companies? Sheesh...
            Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: QTIP                
Subject: Mystic Exper.. 
Date & Time: 12/16/89 04:01:18
Message Number   983

Naaah... nothing that simple. Four creatures, that looked kinda like 
men, but each of them had four faces and four wings. Their legs were
straight; their feet like polished bronze. Under their wings on their
four sides they had the hands of a man. Each of the four had the face
of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on
the left each had the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle.
  
yarg! yarg! yarg!
           Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RAVEN               
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/16/89 04:07:12
Message Number   984

Well, my fine feathered friend; welcome back! (Lacking the arms to
give a decent hug, I rub your feathered chest with my muzzle.) Looks
like you finally got one of your machines to run with one of your
modems, eh?
         Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: life           
Date & Time: 12/16/89 09:25:52
Message Number   985

Aye!  Me Losing Edge is _finally_ running again.  Hope I see U in a 
short time, Have a few ideas to run by you off line.  You are getting 
damn difficult to reach lately.
===========

From: PINEAPPLE LEE       
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: It's almost lik
Date & Time: 12/16/89 10:24:36
Message Number   990

It's almost like a drug.....sniffffffffffff.......
Well, when I get to work it's more important to read my mail than to
answer the phone...Ring...Ring..Ring... Well anyway "hey"...see ya
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Well...        
Date & Time: 12/16/89 14:20:10
Message Number   991

The pathetic sux-a-lux/2 (PS/2 for short) drive is still having
problems living with my system...the drive is too slow, the operating
system is too fast, and well, have you ever heard of premature...well,
never mind. Anyway, the upshot of all this is that I've had to slow
down disk access /again/, and as a result message reading is now going
to be slower than ever (new! improved! slower than ever before! Kind
of like Micro Channel, you see...) Anyway, if you're waiting for, oh,
seven or eight minutes to read your messages, well, that's why. Thank
you, and have a nice day.   :)
                 --A sssslllloooowwww Turtle
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: KEN OBER            
Subject: And Fish!      
Date & Time: 12/16/89 14:36:14
Message Number   992

Well, meeting him could be INTERESTING, for lack of a better word.  No,
seriously, it might be fun.  Especially if either PBBS 3.0 or FOX gets
written before then...
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: Those wrd keybs
Date & Time: 12/16/89 14:38:50
Message Number   993

That's true.  The 128 keyboard has a nice feel, but it has, what, three
keys between the semicolon and the RETURN button!  I can deal with one
in the way, but that arrangement drives me up the wall...
===========

From: DONTHEN             
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Asm..          
Date & Time: 12/16/89 14:41:10
Message Number   994

> To read a byte, pull it off the first address in the buffer, move the
> remaining buffer down one byte, and decrement the register.
 
That would screw things all to hell; the buffer is still in the same
place, but the 2nd byte has become the first, the 3rd the 2nd, etc., and
you just changed the pointer to point at one byte below the buffer.
What people with working brain cells do is point something at the start
of the buffer (i.e., a register), read the first byte, do something with
it, and then INCREMENT the pointer and keep reading the bytes until you
get to the end.  Doing it by moving the entire buffer would work if you
kept reading the byte at the buffer's bottom -- it would, in effect, be
doing the same thing -- but you'd have to know how big the buffer was
to start with, which isn't always possible, and it'd be a lot slower and
potentially a great deal more complicated (it'd already add overhead if
you use LDIR--what if you're using a CPU without block moves?).  You
know all of this already, so where'd you come up with that tripe?  Wakey
wakey, Mr. Toitle.
===========

From: KEN OBER            
To: TURTLE              
Subject: hhmmm...       
Date & Time: 12/16/89 23:30:20
Message Number   995

Well, my pro-128-term can't do that, but DESTERM may be able to...
But it isn'T THAT Important to force me to use desterm!  hehehhehe
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RAVEN               
Subject: life           
Date & Time: 12/16/89 23:47:35
Message Number   996

Awqk! Awqk! Nevermore!
   1. Comgratulations on gettin the Leading Edge running.
   2. Ideas? Love to hear them...
   3. Damn difficult to reach? Well, sorrrrrrry! (Yeah, we need to
get together sometime, when the two of us are able to talk.)
                Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Well...        
Date & Time: 12/16/89 23:51:15
Message Number   997

I KNEW there was a reason why I shouldn't log on to a board run by
a Sysop named Turtle...
           Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: DONTHEN             
Subject: Asm..          
Date & Time: 12/17/89 00:29:34
Message Number   998

>...moving the entire buffer would work if you kept reading the byte at 
>the buffer's bottom...
 
Um, ahem, that's what I said...
 
>Read the byte at the first address of the buffer...
 
And OF COURSE you know how big the buffer is. It's the difference
between the pointer and the first byte in the buffer.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/17/89 19:27:27
Message Number  1002

Amazing, this h-a-r-d d-r-i-v-e is not to l-o-u-d.  Wow.  It still
s-q-u-e-e-k-s every now and then.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Intro          
Date & Time: 12/18/89 08:00:39
Message Number  1003

Isn't saying "ugly polyester" like saying "big whale."  I know there's
a word for that, but seeing how it's 8 a.m., I can't think of it.  Oh
well, I'm going back to bed, and this HD isn't screamin' at me.
Is this man good, or is this man EviL?
 
Ribbit...
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Intro          
Date & Time: 12/18/89 16:19:06
Message Number  1005

>Is this man good, or is this man EviL?
   
If you're referring to Mr. Snyde ("Hiya, Mr. Snyde!" -- smiling at the
plant that's been inching over to hear our conversation.), neither
applies to him. The government has begun an in-depth commision to
answer that question; it will only cost our taxpayers $10 million.
                  Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: *              
Date & Time: 12/18/89 17:01:13
Message Number  1006

>Is this man good, or is this man EviL?
 
I dunno, Mr. Mikey; I seem to have lost the ability to differentiate.
I frequently blow up innocent cows with a large cannon, and chase
them about my living room with an axe. That's why I work for the U.S.
Government. (Of course, it also helps that I have the IQ of a brain-
damaged rabbit; that's why the guy I'm tapping keeps getting muting
failures that screw up his connection. There's two buttons on this
thing, see, and I keep pushing the wrong one...)
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: ALL                 
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/18/89 17:56:52
Message Number  1007

So, anyone catch the Simpson special last night.  I have to give it a 
thumbs up.  I heard it will be aired again on the 23rd.  And the 
"Married...with Children" special was also good.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: RAVEN               
Subject: Aye!           
Date & Time: 12/18/89 23:01:19
Message Number  1008

   My God!  You can BBS once again!  Not to say that I have ever had the
pleasure of conversing with you over such things before...
   
   Anyway, congratulations on getting your system(s?) up, and let's get
together and play some p..l sometime (sneaky, ain't I?)
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/19/89 01:15:17
Message Number  1009

Yep, I'd have to agree...got both of 'em on videotape, in fact.
===========

From: MIKI                
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Dumb reptiles  
Date & Time: 12/19/89 02:38:44
Message Number  1010

since i'm new around here i have no complaints.  what kind, sort, rank o
f social issues are being waved around?  i mean now you've got me 
scared.  where are these guys with the dark glasses, etc.  dare i say
what's really on my mind or will they come for me in the middle of
the night and drag me away to neanderthal land?
talk to me.....
===========

From: MIKI                
To: TURTLE              
Subject: sympathy       
Date & Time: 12/19/89 02:41:59
Message Number  1011

oh goody, i got in on the ground floor.  i'll be back but i'm kinda 
tired myself right now.
the gabber
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: MIKI                
Subject: Dumb reptiles  
Date & Time: 12/19/89 02:47:10
Message Number  1012

Greetings! Welcome aboard! Run into you a few times on the gossip
echo, glad you finally decided to call! Pity it wasn't a couple of
minutes later, though; I'd have been around for chatting...
   Anyway, at the moment there's not a whole lot going on in the
Social Issues department. In the Men With Dark Glasses department,
well, my phone line is being monitored by a person or persons
unknown, presumably because somebody somewhere believes I'm a sub-
versive element who's damaging our children. Oh well. Presumably
nobody's going to knock on your door and drag you off by the heels...I
mean, gosh, things like that are only supposed to happen in those
Commie countries, right? Of course, you'd think that things like
incessant phone bugging is only supposed to happen in those Commie
countries, too, but that's a kettle of donuts of a different color...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: MIKI                
Subject: sympathy       
Date & Time: 12/19/89 02:53:07
Message Number  1013

Yikes! I gotta start deleting old messages...*yawn*
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/19/89 10:12:51
Message Number  1014

The Simpsons ranks up there with "The Grinch Who Stole Christmas" and
the really weird "Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer" narrated by Burl
Ives.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: CORWYN OF AMBER     
Subject: catchy slogans 
Date & Time: 12/19/89 20:36:20
Message Number  1015

  Close minded (sic) my ass! What do you want - flaming rhetoric, 
fiery fists, or blazing pistols at 50 feet?  Your choice.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: sigh...        
Date & Time: 12/19/89 20:40:23
Message Number  1016

Love: Six bucs Senor...Carmen  (Tijuana)
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: sigh...        
Date & Time: 12/19/89 20:45:18
Message Number  1017

  Neil Diamond ----Stephen King...no one likes pop success.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Life           
Date & Time: 12/19/89 20:49:46
Message Number  1018

  Beer - it's only redeeming quality is that it contains alcohol...and 
it keeps ethnic Germans from drinking anything better.
===========

From: SAURON              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: catchy slogans 
Date & Time: 12/19/89 20:54:05
Message Number  1019

  How much levity would you have if it was YOUR face being torn from
your neck, and your life's-blood pumping into a vacuum device?
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Well...        
Date & Time: 12/19/89 21:41:59
Message Number  1020

So, how about another one?
\/\/\/\/\/
 
     \/-
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/19/89 21:44:03
Message Number  1021

SO LEMME AT IT!!!!!  JUST HAND IT TO DONTHEN, It should (i think) be
quieter afterwords.  If not we can always silence it for you......
===========

From: RAVEN               
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: Aye!           
Date & Time: 12/19/89 21:46:57
Message Number  1022

How about this weekend? On campus as my budget is a bit short at the 
moment.
 
        \/-
===========

From: ASTRAL PRINCESS     
To: SAURON              
Subject: .              
Date & Time: 12/19/89 22:32:10
Message Number  1024

I just wanted to say to everyone: DO not FEAR ASTRAL is here.
Now you can all feel better.  
===========

From: ASTRAL PRINCESS     
To: MIKI                
Subject: HI!            
Date & Time: 12/19/89 22:33:30
Message Number  1025

HI!  Nice to see you online here!  
===========

From: ASTRAL PRINCESS     
To: RUFUS               
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/19/89 22:34:55
Message Number  1026

Aren't you meant to kick a squeaky hard drive?
I will buy you some oil for Christmas, to pour on it. Might help?
Meanwhile, feliz navidad!
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/19/89 22:58:15
Message Number  1028

  Simpsons Special- THUMBS UP! Yes, it will be aired again the 23rd AND,
The Simpsons will leave Tracey Ullman (or did they already?) BUt they 
will get THEIR~ OWN SERIES!
  Married...With Children special- Very good, missed the ending. Seemed 
like the first half hour was an episode all to itself. I was expecting 
the WHOLE episode to be about the guardian angel thing. Plenty of 
written oportunities for Kinison to YELL, which annoys me!! leave it out
!!!!!
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: SAURON              
Subject: sigh...        
Date & Time: 12/19/89 23:02:28
Message Number  1029

 >>Neil Diamond ----Stephen King...no one likes pop success.
 
 What does that mean. I suppose I skipped reading a message (or two)
somewhere...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RAVEN               
Subject: Well...        
Date & Time: 12/19/89 23:32:11
Message Number  1030

>So, how about another one?
 
Well, if you've got one kicking around...it'd sure make my life easier
when I do a system backup. As it stands now, with only one 3.5" drive,
making a copy of the message disk involves a /lot/ of disk swapping...
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: ASTRAL PRINCESS     
Subject: *              
Date & Time: 12/19/89 23:34:30
Message Number  1031

Welcome aboard! Happy to see you here. We can always use fresh faces
'round these parts, particularly those that don't go running in terror
the first time they log on and notice there's well over a thousand
messages in the message base...watched a couple of greenhorns do that
last night, in fact. Anyway, glad you could stop over; hope you'll
be doing so fairly often in the future...
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: MIKI                
Subject: Dumb reptiles  
Date & Time: 12/19/89 23:49:09
Message Number  1032

Dear Miki,
   First of all, tapping is ILLEGAL for the government to do without
a court OK. Secondly, if they have asked the court about a permit to
tap (which I sincerely doubt!), they need to say what, specifically
they are looking for. Unless you are typing messages about hacking,
pirating, or phreaking, I doubt you'd be sent off to Neanderthal land.
                   Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Dumb reptiles  
Date & Time: 12/19/89 23:51:33
Message Number  1033

>...because somebody somewhere believes I'm a subversive element
>who's damaging our children...
     
But, Turtle! You ARE a subversive element! You dare stand for the one
thing government cannot stand: reason...
                Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: SAURON              
Subject: catchy slogans 
Date & Time: 12/19/89 23:54:36
Message Number  1034

Dear Sauron,
   As I've said, abortion is the worst method of birth control. I,
personally, hope that in the future it will NOT be necessary -- that
everyone in the future will be well enough educated in methods of
birth control that no unwanted children occur. I'm hoping that 
scientists will develop another 'pill' with fewer side effects. In the
meanwhile, what are your views on capital punishment?
          Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: ASTRAL PRINCESS     
Subject: .              
Date & Time: 12/19/89 23:58:11
Message Number  1035

Quick! Head for the hills! Astral Princess has arrived on aLTER
rEALITY! If you escape now, you won't be done in by her vile
schemes! Ignore her beautiful face; don't gaze at her french toast;
she has seduced hundreds, leaving only lifeless husks behind...
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
            Chip P. Unicorn
===========

From: CHIP P. UNICORN     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: ...            
Date & Time: 12/20/89 00:02:15
Message Number  1036

By the way, you should be a writer.
===========

From: PSYCHE              
To: RAVEN               
Subject: Aye!           
Date & Time: 12/20/89 02:02:57
Message Number  1037

   Why not?  On the other hand, we've yet to go to Livingston's or the 
GALLERY.  We really should sometime (maybe with Tad); we might as well,
however, make use of Ham Center while nobody's around.  Remind me to 
take you to one of the aforementioned classy joint, though.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: RAVEN               
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/20/89 09:27:38
Message Number  1038

I dunno if I trust Donthen with it.  He may decide to hook it up to
his computer and not give it back to me.  I'll pop in at Donthen's one 
day and let him have it.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: ASTRAL PRINCESS     
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/20/89 09:28:58
Message Number  1039

I've done everything short of kicking it.  Actually, Raven is going to
oil it if he ever gets his hands on it   Feliz Navidad...no spanish, 
spanish bad...very evil....ack, help!
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: BEATLE              
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/20/89 09:30:26
Message Number  1040

Their own series?!  Yippie...  I agree that he got the chance to yell
quite a few times, but it was still pretty good.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Dumb reptiles  
Date & Time: 12/20/89 15:52:57
Message Number  1042

>Unless you are typing messages about hacking, pirating, or phreaking,
>I doubt you'd be sent off to Neanderthal land.
 
You know, that reminds me, I was hacking this pirate once, and the
little phreak ran away! I was so pissed I dropped my French toast.
                  --A hacker Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Bad reptiles   
Date & Time: 12/20/89 15:54:42
Message Number  1043

>But Turtle! You ARE a subversive element!
 
Oh yeah...I forgot. You know, that reminds me of this time I was on this
dangerous assignment for the CIA, and these KGB guys were on to me, so
I convinced them I was with the NVPD, which would have worked except
that they had a contact in the FBI who told them I was a charter member
of the NAACP and was UL listed, to boot, so they got out their NRA
specials (NYFD C of A #12290) and KO'd this IBM VIP and...well, never
mind.
                      --An SOL Turtle
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: catchy slogans 
Date & Time: 12/20/89 15:59:17
Message Number  1044

>I'm hoping that scientists will develop another 'pill' with fewer
>side effects.
 
And that it'll get FDA approval, presumably. How about RU-426? Works the
same way ordinary oral contraceptives do, can be used a few weeks after
conception to prevent the zygote from attaching to the uterine wall,
and to date has no known serious side-effects. I defy you to even TRY
to get it approved over here.
===========

From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/20/89 16:02:56
Message Number  1045

>...he got the chance to yell quite a few times, but it was still pretty
>good.
 
Actually, two of those yells were really funny...the one where he meets
Al Bundy and screams "Nooooooo!" at the heavens, and the other at the
very end, when he's trying to get back into heaven and finds that
they've lost his luggage..."AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!" All in all, it was a
/really/ funny episode.
===========

From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/20/89 19:46:15
Message Number  1046

There's nothing wrong with yelling, just to much yelling is bad ( unless
it's some boring class, where a small riot with lotsa yelling is
welcome ).
Arrgh..there I go again, babbling away.  So, when's SCVM get down here?
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: Tapping        
Date & Time: 12/20/89 22:19:06
Message Number  1047

  From what I was told, operating a BBS constitutes a suficient reason
to monitor your phone line, so the courts would just give the warrant or
whatever and let them tap away...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: TURTLE              
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/20/89 22:22:43
Message Number  1048

  Yes, but did you ever notice that Kinison was doing a stand-up yelling
routine? If he looked up a bit more and looked more convincing, I would 
take the yelling. Oh well, can't have everything, can we? At least he 
wasn't censored like the time he was on Letterman...
===========

From: BEATLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Solar Shades!  
Date & Time: 12/20/89 22:25:10
Message Number  1049

  I dunno about you, but I like these Pizza Hut things! Yes, they are 
worth the two bucks. They look neat and even protect your eyes from 
those damn awful UV rays!
  I also liked Back to the Future Part II, so I just HAD to get a pair 
of the glasses! I got the round ones. Anyone else get the Solar Shades??
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From: RAVEN               
To: PSYCHE              
Subject: Aye!           
Date & Time: 12/20/89 22:38:13
Message Number  1051

Already made it to the gallery w. Tad & Chip, give me a call thursday
or friday ... Livingston's might be good. 
 
    -R-
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From: RAVEN               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: ChristmasCon   
Date & Time: 12/20/89 22:40:32
Message Number  1052

O'Tay Cap'n 'ope t' see ya soon  -R-
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From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/21/89 02:10:38
Message Number  1054

>So, when's SCVM get down here?
 
Well, actually, he's not. I talked to him about 3 days ago; evidently
he has some sort of job lined up elsewhere, or MAY have some sort of
job lined up elsewhere, or some such thing. At any rate, the upshot of
all of that is he isn't planning on coming down here any time in the
forseeable future. Kind of disappointing, really...he is nothing if not
an interesting person...
                          --A tired Turtle
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From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Now Available  
Date & Time: 12/21/89 03:44:48
Message Number  1055

For your downloading pleasure, a brief thumbnail sketch of the
Vengeance Computing PC-Z, one of the most interesting new personal
computers to come down the pike in decades. It's a really brief
file, and doesn't explain any of the proposed upgrades to the system,
but nevertheless makes for interesting reading. Check it out!
And remember: Down with IBM! Down with IBM! Down with IBM! May they
drown in a sea of corporate profit death and badly designed, slow
personal computers!!!
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/21/89 08:05:04
Message Number  1056

Gee, that just makes my already depressed self, even more depressed.
On another note, it seems almost everytime ( 90% ) I call here or the
Den, you were the last caller, or I was the first called since rebooting
the system.  Oh well...I'm going to do my shopping now.  It's to early, 
it'll be crowded, and I'll be gone for who knows how long when I can
have my shopping done in about 45 mins.  Such is life.......
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From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/21/89 12:17:58
Message Number  1057

>It seems almost everytime...I call here or the Den, you were the last
>caller...
 
Hmm. I don't generally call the Den or this board more than about once a
day. I've been on this board quite a bit over the last couple of days,
since I just got finished writing a new version of PBBSH (that's that
"Last Caller Was:" routine, in fact) and doing a BIG system backup. Oh
well. I guess you're just lucky...
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From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Thank you...   
Date & Time: 12/21/89 19:26:19
Message Number  1058

...I know my secret is safe with you. BTW, when's the next Cell
Meeting?
.
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.
.
.
(got that, PolyesterMan???)
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From: CHARLES DITTELL     
To: SAURON              
Subject: Never Give Up..
Date & Time: 12/21/89 19:29:27
Message Number  1059

No - no restrictions (Federal Law) - all beings (even non-sentient)
welcome!! BTW, when's the Snow Drop??
.
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(Got that, PolyesterMan???)
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: grrpt!         
Date & Time: 12/21/89 23:22:09
Message Number  1060

Lucky may not be the proper word.  Anyways, ho ho ho.
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From: RUFUS               
To: ANYONE              
Subject: Heavy Metal    
Date & Time: 12/21/89 09:37:45
Message Number  1061

Well, Heavy Metal is back at the midnight movies.  Anyone wanna make
plans to go Saturday night/Sunday morning?  Actually, I dunno if I can
go, but thought I'd ask.  Oh yea, it's playing at Sarasota Square.
 
Ribbit...
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From: CYCLE               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: TECH TALK      
Date & Time: 12/21/89 16:35:50
Message Number  1062

What about us (scuse me) CPM drones
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From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Heavy Metal    
Date & Time: 12/21/89 20:27:02
Message Number  1063

Hey! Sounds like a good idea...like, what's it cost to go? Saturday
would be a good time to see it; Sunday I'm heading for Ft. Myers,
and aLTER rEALITY will be on autopilot for a while...
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From: BEATLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Heavy Metal    
Date & Time: 12/21/89 22:36:51
Message Number  1064

  It's also on Cinemax in February for all you collectors...
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Heavy Metal    
Date & Time: 12/21/89 22:56:49
Message Number  1065

Gee, I'm not sure for Midnight movies.  It shouldn't be over $4.50.  We
can stock up on Mountain Dew and donuts since AMC doesn't carry either.
( and if they did, it would be to expensive )
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From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: HEAVY METAL    
Date & Time: 12/22/89 02:44:18
Message Number  1067

WELL, DUDE, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY GIVE ME A CALL SOMETIME THIS SAT...
CRYSTAL AND I WILL PROBABLY END UP GOING TO THE MIDNIGHT SHOW, EVEN THOU
WE BOTH WATCHED IT ON VIDEOTAPE T_LAST WEEK...
SORRY BOUT THE UPPERCASE, I'M TYPING THIS FROM AN AT&T
UNIX MACHINE AT WORK...
       --A DOUBLE-SPACING TURTLE
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: HEAVY METAL    
Date & Time: 12/22/89 09:03:10
Message Number  1069

yea, well, I was going to leave you a message last night, but seeing how
our friends at FiPiL denied us power for 2 hours, I couldn't.  I was in 
the middle of that message when the power went phoomp ( yea, it actually
went phoomp ).  I'll see if the folks say O.K. and call back here 
before 5:30 p.m. ( you have my # if you need to call )
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From: MR. BUSTER          
To: PIRATES             
Subject: Heh, Heh...    
Date & Time: 12/22/89 15:00:53
Message Number  1070

Avast 'ye scurvy dog! I got a topic fer 'ye:
 
What 'ya feel about hackin', phreakin' and krackin'?
 
 A topic I know I'm interested in!
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From: TURTLE              
To: MR. BUSTER          
Subject: Heh, Heh...    
Date & Time: 12/22/89 17:34:20
Message Number  1072

From the looks of things, you, Sir, wouldn't know a hacker if one bit
you on the ass. I have to wonder about a person who spells "cracking"
"krackin'", in a public message on a bulletin board WHOSE LOGON SCREEN
TELLS YOU THAT THIS PHONE LINE IS BEING MONITORED!! Quite frankly, Sir,
I am amazed you can actually work a computer. It is gentlemen like you
who give us REAL hackers a bad name.
 
Have an amazingly pleasant day, Sir.
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From: ROCKY               
To: EVERYONE!           
Subject: SNOW!!!        
Date & Time: 12/22/89 20:20:13
Message Number  1073

Well, I never believed I would actually see it, but as of RIGHT NOW 
Sat Dec. 23 at 8:20 PM it is SNOWING out side my door! Yes, here in 
Sarasota FL! The flakes are small, and not very well formed, but it IS
only 8:00 with a promise of -10 degree wind chill factor for tonight
here in this area. I hope that everyone around here gets to see the snow
falling here, as it is a VERY rare happening, but it is expected to 
happen for several hours on into the early morning. Well, I'm going now
to go watch it somemore, as this is the first time in my life that I
have seen it snow here, this far south. Hope everyone sees it!
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From: MR. BUSTER          
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Heh, Heh...    
Date & Time: 12/22/89 23:23:01
Message Number  1074

Well, first of all, nothing was meant to offend.
2nd:  "Cracking" has two spellings, in the pirate world...
3rd:  You cannot get arrested for talking about a subject, only if you 
partake in the subject being discussed.
4th:  I am a Computer Science major at a rather reputable engineering
school.  Beleive me, unfortunetly I know what a hacker is...
5th:  I'm sorry for being interested in a rather taboo subject. In
my younger years I was very active and knew many a famous pirate, I
was just wondering if there was anyone "active" around here... It would
be interesting to hear some "stories".
 
Don't worry, you won't get busted for just talking...  I wanted to raise
some eye-brows and I see I did!!
 
Merry Christmas,
 
- Mr. Buster
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From: RUFUS               
To: ROCKY               
Subject: SNOW!!!        
Date & Time: 12/24/89 15:20:02
Message Number  1076

I saw it to.  In fact, I collected enough snow to make a very small snow
ball, which I used to hit my dad.  Boy, if it woulda been any bigger, I
coulda caused some real damage.  My dad ( who's been here for 28+ years)
says this is the most he's seen in Sarasota.  I think it has snowed 
twice before in Sarasota.
And to think Bart Fox went to Ohio for a white Christmas!
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From: RAVEN               
To: RUFUS               
Subject: SNOW!!!        
Date & Time: 12/24/89 15:31:38
Message Number  1077

Me 'tinks ets time t' move further south.  I moved here from Oregon, and
as find this weather to be a pain in the ass.  Cold & dry I like, Hot
and either dry or humid is good, but this cold and humid crap is a real
pain in the arse!  (Oh, by the by, my grandmother, who grew up in
Bradenton, did not believe that it was half their temperature here, and
David Kone's jaw hit the ground when he called last night).  A HEAVY
sbowfall would have been wonderful (what would SRQ do w. it?); imagine
all these people who have _never_ had to deal w. icy roads, and have 
problems w. wet ones. . .
 
     -R-
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From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: Merry Xmas!    
Date & Time: 12/24/89 17:00:28
Message Number  1078

Well, I'm departing soon to go down to Fort Myers and do the "spend your
Christmas with friends and family" thang, so the board will be on
autopilot for a while. Anyway, have a good, if cold, wet, miserable,
damp, SNOWY, freezing, gray, gloomy, dreary, grim, harsh, windy, chilly,
wet, wretched, and not terribly sunny Christmas, y'all, and I'll be back
in a few days!
               --A cold, wet, miserable, freezing, gray, gloomy Turtle
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From: RUFUS               
To: RAVEN               
Subject: SNOW!!!        
Date & Time: 12/24/89 23:52:02
Message Number  1079

There are three types of weather I like:
Cold and dry
Hot and dry
Hot, with a very heavy, nah, torrent like, rainfall!
Anyways, Happy Vacationdays, and may the force ( = mass * Acceleration )
be with you.
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From: RUFUS               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: Merry Xmas!    
Date & Time: 12/24/89 23:55:29
Message Number  1080

Well, Happy Holidays, and if you see this, when can I get my tape back?
And I hope your BBS will set itself up if the power goes, cause FPL may
or may not continue (sp?) with "Let'
[ARG] ..."Let's have a blackout for a while."  This morning, we had
about 12 power outages within 5-6 minutes.  I'm glad I didn't have my
computer on or I woulda been really angry.
Anyways, have fun, and I thought turtles liked wet weather?
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From: CYBERPUNK           
To: ALL                 
Subject: new bbs        
Date & Time: 12/26/89 10:17:17
Message Number  1081

hey guys, i finally got my bbs up!!   call it!!!
 Damage Inc. BBS!!   813-371-0888   300/1200 baud!!   call now..
sysop:Cyberpunk!!
SEE-ya there!!
 Cy
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From: ANGEL               
To: TURTLE              
Subject: RU-426         
Date & Time: 12/27/89 00:40:18
Message Number  1085

>How about RU-426?  Works the same way ordinary oral contraceptives do
 
Actually, no.  RU-426 needs to be administered with another drug to
obtain high success rates (can't remember what the other one is, I'll
look it up -- but THAT must be administered intravenously).  Without
the interaction of the other drug RU-426 has only about a 60% success
rate.
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From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject:               
Date & Time: 12/28/89 23:12:24
Message Number  1092

Well, All, it's been an interesting Christmas season. While busily
unwrapping gifts and doing the Christmas dinner thing, I hope you all
had time to reflect upon some of the finer points of Christmas, like:
 
Why are all Christmas cards you see in Hallmark stores either trite or
banal, or at worst can only aspire to triteness or banality? I swear, if
I see one more card with the phrase "special friend," the words "Holiday
cheer," "Yuletide cheer," or anything "Spirit," I'm going to scream
and put the cat through the wall. Yeech! Shopping for Christmas cards
is a nightmare. I am thinking of starting my own line of unorthodox,
CREATIVE holiday greeting cards, Death To You All Enterprises, to 
combat the evil scourge of sappy holiday yeech. (Look for them wherever
Bill the Cat stuffed toys are sold.) Our product line is, of course,
confidential, but here's one guarantee: you won't see a fat man who
plays with elves on any of 'em!
                     --An annoyed-at-banality Turtle
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From: TURTLE              
To: RUFUS               
Subject: Merry Xmas!    
Date & Time: 12/28/89 23:17:36
Message Number  1093

Well, sorry I took so long in replying to your last post; I've been out
to lunch for the last several days. One at a time, from the top:
>...when can I get my tape back?
By all means, come over and pick it up. My car is dead; you see, it
gallantly sacrificed its life to rescue this innocent young lady from
these Hells' Angels bikers, and...well, no, I'm making that up. Actually
it has a broken clutch.
>I hope your BBS can set itself up if the power fails...
Nope. Sure 'nuff, I came back the day after Christmas and the 'pooter
was patiently waiting for someone to type in the date. If you called
on Christmas and didn't get anything, well, it serves you right for
calling on Christmas instead of digging for loot in the first place.
Bleah.
                         --A slow Turtle
Hey, wanna buy a Volkswagen?
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From: TURTLE              
To: THE UNENLIGHTENED   
Subject: Shining Path   
Date & Time: 12/28/89 23:22:13
Message Number  1094

As I sat upon a mountaintop these last few days, pondering the meaning
of it all, it came to me in a dream...the Shining Path, the Road to
Salvation, the Way of the Aardvark. Yes! My life, once dark and lost,
is now filled with Meaning and Purpose. Truly is the blessed Way of
the Aardvark the only road to spiritual enlightenment. Watch this
space for more information...
                            --A guru Turtle
(c) 1989 Anarchy Now, Inc.
 
 
Hey? What can I say? You've gotta love an animal that can stick its
tongue down an anthill, and ants will stick to it but sand won't. I
was impressed.
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From: TURTLE              
To: ALL                 
Subject: New files!     
Date & Time: 12/29/89 02:38:56
Message Number  1095

Now available in the aLTER rEALITY library: The Canonical Collection
of Light Bulb Jokes, for your amusement; and Phrases.Txt, a large
collection of assorted sayings and pithy quotes. Check 'em out!
(Xmodem only, please; offer void in VA, VT, or any other state
containing the letter "V." Thank you for your support.)
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From: CYBERPUNK           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: sigh...        
Date & Time: 12/29/89 20:18:54
Message Number  1096

oh crap?????        thats nice!
 Cy
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From: CYBERPUNK           
To: CHIP P. UNICORN     
Subject: life           
Date & Time: 12/29/89 20:25:49
Message Number  1097

hey Chip, i'd like to ask you something....
what does Awqk mean and how do you pronounce it(it's in message #996) 
and what about Yarg???    it sounds like a pathetic way of saying puke!!
hehehe   just wondering!!
 Cy
 
P.S.   hey everyone, cal my bbs!!!   Damage Inc. BBS!!!    300/1200 baud
813-371-0888!!!!            Call Now
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From: CYBERPUNK           
To: BEATLE              
Subject: Solar Shades!  
Date & Time: 12/29/89 20:37:05
Message Number  1098

you know, i saw the movie too, but i didn't see those damned solar 
shades anyware in the wholedamn movie!!!
    ---  a frustrated Cy
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From: TURTLE              
To: CYBERPUNK           
Subject: life           
Date & Time: 12/30/89 02:51:20
Message Number  1100

Well, I don't know about Awqk, but Yarg is a way of saying "The pre-
ceeding flame is high in sarcasm and should not be taken seriously by
members of Congress, the Moral Majority, or anybody else, for that
matter." As in:
 
Assembly is the only TRUE computer language! Real men use Assembly for
everything! Anyone who would use anything else is a semi-intelligent
putz who wouldn't know a real program if it bit him on the ass! People
who use high-level languages are worthless and weak! People who WRITE
high level languages are illiterate anal retentives who were potty
trained at gunpoint! Assembly is best for /everything/! NO self-
respecting person would EVER even CONSIDER using some wimpy inferior
language! Yarg! Yarg!
 
                --A Websterian Turtle
 
(By the way, I really do feel that way about Assembly...)
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