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87041 28-APR 16:48 Programmers Den
     RE: Real Make... (Re: Msg 87036)
     From: RHELLER      To: NIMITZ

I did not see it here or on chestnut (last time I checked (but I only snarfed
the ls-lR file, so if it was uploaded recently, I'd have missed it)).

Robert

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87042 28-APR 16:56 Programmers Den
     RE: Real Make... (Re: Msg 87036)
     From: RHELLER      To: NIMITZ

lucy.ifi.unibas.edu is not known domain.  Do you have a filename for GNU Make
on chestnut?  The only make is make.ar in the OS9 (6809) section.  There is
makeinfo and m4 in the /pub/OSK/GNU directory on chestnut.cs.uwisc.edu.

Robert

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87043 28-APR 20:44 Programmers Den
     RE: Real Make... (Re: Msg 87042)
     From: NIMITZ       To: RHELLER

I'm sorry, try lucy.ifi.unibas.CH.


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87045 28-APR 21:58 Programmers Den
     RE: Real Make... (Re: Msg 87042)
     From: KSCALES      To: RHELLER

Hi, Robert -

 > lucy.ifi.unibas.edu is not known domain.

I think this should be "lucy.ifi.unibas.ch".  I ftp'ed over there during
the Christmas break.  Don't know offhand if there is a version of 'make'
available there or not.

Cheers... / Ken
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237

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87074 30-APR 19:14 Programmers Den
     RE: Real Make... (Re: Msg 87041)
     From: JOHNREED     To: RHELLER (NR)

 > I did not see it here or on chestnut (last time I checked (but I only snarfed

 > the ls-lR file, so if it was uploaded recently, I'd have missed it)).

I saw it (GNU-Make) on wuarchive.wustl.edu -- along with a
huge herd of other GNUs.

           ********************************
 "Don't take life too serious - it ain't nohow permanent"
                                        (Pogo)

 John R. Wainwright <<CIS -- 72517,676>> <<DELPHI -- JOHNREED>>

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87044 28-APR 21:38 Programmers Den
     RE: GCC2 ver 2.5.8 (Re: Msg 86985)
     From: KEITHBAUER   To: NIMITZ

David

 > Keith, those are indeed in another file, somehow DELPHI got the idea I
 > was done with this upload before I was.  In fact, Paul just broke into my
 Okay, I will look for the rest this weekend. By the way here is my MM/1
 setup:

 8 Meg using the new back plane
 /h0 213 meg Maxtor Hard drive
 /d0 3-1/2 1.4mg

 /t0
 /t2  Dexxa Mouse
 /t3
 /t4  14.4K modem

 8CM815 Monitor
 Panasonic 9 Pin KX-P1180 printer


 See ya

 Keith Bauer

 CIS:71102,317    Delphi:keithbauer   Internet:kbauer@pids.com

 Via InfoXpress/OSK ver 1.01                     How 'bout them Cowboys!


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87046 28-APR 22:59 General Information
     RE: Current Periodicals (Re: Msg 87037)
     From: JEVESTAL     To: DSRTFOX (NR)

 > There are a lot of patches and such to wade through, so much so that I
 > came out with an "upgrade" disk that many have referred to as "Level II
 > version 2" though it isn't that officially. What it is is a collection of
 > the most used/needed/recommended patches for Level II all on awo disk set
 > that gas (has!!) an auto-patch util with it. Answer a few questions and
 > the patches are installed! All you do then is edit the supplied bootlist
 > to your liking and run OS9Gen. You need 2 DS40T drives (at least1... the
 > other can be 80T) to run the autopatch feature, also 512K. The disk set is
 > $7.50 + $2.50 S&H, or you can get it from FARNA Systems at the fest in
 > Chicago.

I thought that Patch09 was a CoNect product and I think Rick sells it for
only $3.50 or something like that.

Jim

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87047 29-APR 07:07 General Information
     classifieds
     From: DGANTZ       To: ALL

Just a friendly little reminder, and a friendly request (to save us all
online time).  If you have a posted classified in the classified section
and the item or items have been sold, please update or remove your
classified.  If need help consult EDDIEKUNS or MITHLEN,  they manage
our databases, but may be able to advise on the updating or removal
of classifieds.  Last time I checked out the classifieds (prior to today)
I found out that 80 to 90% of what I wanted to buy was sold months to 2
years prior.  And there I was stuck with an investment in online time
and nothing to show for it.
            DGANTZ

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87048 29-APR 09:52 General Information
     RE: classifieds (Re: Msg 87047)
     From: ILLUSIONIST  To: DGANTZ (NR)

Marty Goodman will be deleting all classifieds older than 3 months
very soon..

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87053 29-APR 22:24 General Information
     RE: classifieds (Re: Msg 87047)
     From: MRUPGRADE    To: DGANTZ (NR)

  I call it theh barn door syndrome.
  Most every one closes it on th way in,, and leaves it swinging in theh breeze
 as they exit.
assifieds here are a great bonus for all Delphi users.   After they've
 helped you,, please help others by askin theh item be removed.   That makes
 them much more realistic,, andn many will rely on them.

  Sorry,, but I hate the doors left swinging,,, just cause somone's no longer
 needing theh barn for them selves.
  Til then,,, Terry Simons

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87049 29-APR 19:35 Telecom (6809)
     Loading SC to another window
     From: CHARLESAM    To: ALL

I'm having a problem loading supercomm into a given window from startup.
I've tried SC >/w1, SC <>/w1, SC <>>>/w1, SC <>>>/w1&. None work. If any
one here has a solution I'd be appreciative to hear it. Of course I use
supercomm, not SC, but its the redirection I can't master. If I can load
supercomm into a window from a script file, I can load anything else.
No, thats a lie! I can't load DMTree from scriptfile either, but I
believe thats the nature of DMTree. Thanx Charlie

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87054 29-APR 22:26 Telecom (6809)
     RE: Loading SC to another window (Re: Msg 87049)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: CHARLESAM (NR)

Try sc <>>>/w&


 ------------------------------------
  Zack C Sessions

  "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors,
     we borrowed it from our descendants."           Ancient proverb


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87050 29-APR 21:41 General Information
     RE: patches (Re: Msg 87027)
     From: ROBERT84     To: NEALSTEWARD

I have contacted them before about the program. They said they don't even
have anyone there familiar with it anymore, and could not help me. How do
you like that.

Thanks, Bob

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87051 29-APR 22:18 General Information
     RE: patches (Re: Msg 87050)
     From: NEALSTEWARD  To: ROBERT84

I will make an effort to contact the author and see if he will support it
anymore, and if he can arrange for another distributor since it is THE
BEST word processor I have even seen for coco os9.

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87064 30-APR 16:13 General Information
     RE: patches (Re: Msg 87051)
     From: DBREEDING    To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)

RE: Word processor from OwlWare


 > I will make an effort to contact the author and see if he will support it
 > anymore, and if he can arrange for another distributor since it is THE
 > BEST word processor I have even seen for coco os9.

I have Bob Van Der Poel's ved/vpt combo.  Not familiar with the w/p you
speak of, but this setup can really put out some great text.  This is a
separate text editor/Text Formatter combo (vpt could work with any text
editor), but I am really impressed.

You may have to set up your own vpt..init file, (something like a printer
descriptor file, although examples for several printers are included), but
when you get it set up, you can produce some really fabulous text.  The
control codes may be a little ambiguous, but they work.  I understand Bob
was the writer of Telewriter 64/128.


                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

         ***  Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
                       ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

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87066 30-APR 16:20 General Information
     RE: patches (Re: Msg 87064)
     From: MITHELEN     To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)

Wait, word processor from OwlWare... That would be WindoWriter? You're kidding
when you say it is the BEST you have ever seen for OS-9... right? The only
thing I found of vaule in that package was the ram disk...

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87077 30-APR 22:15 General Information
     RE: patches (Re: Msg 87051)
     From: ROBERT84     To: NEALSTEWARD (NR)

I would really appreciate that, I have the docs for version 1.2, and a disk
with a serial number on it if that is what he would need to know that I have
a real copy of the program. I really appreciate your help.

Thanks,
Bob

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End of Thread.

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87052 29-APR 22:23 General Information
     Boot Problem
     From: NEALSTEWARD  To: ALL

HELP!!! I can't figure this one out...
When I os9gen a bootdisk, mount it in drive 0 and type DOS, the read heads
move to track 34 and the OS9 BOOT message appears as it should.  The problem
I am having is that it immediately goes to the hard drive to finish the boot
process and will not allow me to boot entirely from floppy.  When I try this
on a system without a HD, the boot just seems to hang up as if it is looking
for a HD.  So I cannot generate a system boot for my son's floppy based
system.  I can boot successfully from my ORIGINAL system master floppy on
both systems, but then I don't have access to my hard drive unless I manually
load HDisk and H0.  I split the orignal OS9boot file into separate modules
and os9gened a new one with ALL the same original modules, and the problem
reoccured!?  I have checked the CRS's of all the modules and os9gen and

everything is the same.  Does anyone know why this occurs?  Can it be a
function of RGBDOS or the RGB utilities that allow for booting OS-9 from the
HD?  How do I correct the problem?
(FYI: I have a 2 meg Coco 3, 80 meg SCSI HD, Ken-Ton SCSI Interface, Disto
SCII with a Tandy Smartwatch and RGBDOS partitioned with 5 RSDOS compatible
drives for OS9 bootfiles.)

                                   Thanks for any help,
                                   Neal


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87055 29-APR 23:03 General Information
     RE: Boot Problem (Re: Msg 87052)
     From: RANDYKWILSON To: NEALSTEWARD

If it goes to the hard drive to get the OS9BOOT file, after loading the
base kernel from track 34 on floppy, then you have a modified Boot module.
I do not see a 6309 listed in your message, so I'm going to assume no PBoost
or Nitros. This trick will only work if both systems are the same CPU-wise.

  First, boot with your original Tandy disk. Then, insert your new disk, and
press reset *once*. When you hit reset only once, OS9 re-reads the OS9BOOT
file, without reloading the kernel from track 34. Since the kernel currently
in memory is the Tandy, it will go to floppy for the bootfile.
  The other side of this is os9gen and cobbler. This utilities always write out
the kernel that's in memory to track 34. So, at this point, you can 'gen a boot
for your son, and it will get the floppy Boot module. The bad side is that
you'll lose any patches you've done to the kernel (OS9P1 only).

  And, since this *is* OS9, there is another way to do it. Somewhere lurking
in the data base here is a utility called KUtil. This was specificly designed
to do things like this. It will allow you to "lift" the Boot module from the
Tandy disk (floppy), and stick it into the track 34 stuff of your new disk.
It's been a while since I've worked with this, so exact details are hazy. Read
the docs. :>


   Randy

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87056 29-APR 23:12 General Information
     RE: Boot Problem (Re: Msg 87052)
     From: WDTV5        To: NEALSTEWARD

Hi Neal; From the description, its most obvious cause is that you are using
the module "boot", part of track 34 from the RGB software kit. Your easiest
fix is to go back to the database here and get my package of krnlutils.
They are designed to make accessing the track 34 stuffs *much* easier.
Between that utility kit, and my "vfy", preferably the latest edition, you can
do anything you want to do to the "hidden track" of an os9 bootable diskette.
I'd suggest making a fresh dir of the hard drive call KRNL or some such, then
using vfy, split the kernal off the distribution disk to get the stock "boot",
do the same with the one that won't work, and re-merge or cpa them back using
the stock boot in place of yours. The krnlutils kit has a util to make a
directory entry and fd that points to the kernal track which then can be copied
off
to wherever, and a "krnlmvr" util that can take a kernal track from anyplace
that has a direntry pointing to it and put it back on your sones disk, can't
spell either! But its easier to do than to describe once the utility's are
in hand.  Don't feel too bad, I've done the same thing a time or 2 when I
was running an older st-238r. Now I'm scsi and went back to a floppy based
boot, I change mine sometimes daily and doing that on the hrad drive is too
much like playing russian roulette with all 6 chambers loaded! This way I
can just back up one generation fof floppy and hit the reset twice to
recover. fewer headaches by far even if the floppy boot is slow.
Cheers, Gene Heskett, WDTV5@delphi.com

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87063 30-APR 15:23 General Information
     RE: Boot Problem (Re: Msg 87052)
     From: JPOTTAGE     To: NEALSTEWARD

The problem is probably that you have a modified sysgo or init
along with H0 defined. Try nameing H0 HD. Further, if DD is
defined as the hard drive, you will have to delete it from the
boot file and insert a DD driver that looks to the floppy.
Hope this helps.

PS. I believe DD must be defined as a floppy drive even if
you have not modified your sysgo or init files.



                                           o o
                                            U
                                           \_/
                                     / Jim Pottage \

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87069 30-APR 18:22 General Information
     RE: Boot Problem (Re: Msg 87063)
     From: ILLUSIONIST  To: JPOTTAGE (NR)

DD doesnt have to be a floppy, it can be anything you wish, on my "big"
coco, I have 2 MFM hard drives, and a SCSI drive.. /DD is the larger
SCSI, and /H0 and /H1 are the 2 30 meg MFM's ...

                                                   -* Mike

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87057 30-APR 00:55 OSK Applications
     RE: PGP for OSK? (Re: Msg 86999)
     From: 10BAUD       To: DSRTFOX (NR)

Drug dealers use automobiles too.  That DOES NOT mean that every car should
have to file a "flight plan" with the government so that drug dealers can be
caught.


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87059 30-APR 01:25 General Information
     RE: Printers (Re: Msg 86881)
     From: 10BAUD       To: MROWEN01 (NR)

I use an HP ink jet on a 486 at work and an EPSON AP3250 (24 pin monochrome)
on my coco.  When it's my own money, I have a hard time justifying the ink jet.
It seems the primary advantage is quiet operation.  I paid about $169 for my
Epson.  Today at the Hamvention here in Dayton, I saw a 24 pin panasonic color
model for $129.  All the ink jets seem to be priced over $400.  Choices are
good (I think).


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87071 30-APR 18:46 General Information
     RE: Printers (Re: Msg 87059)
     From: JEJONES      To: 10BAUD

 > All the ink jets seem to be priced over $400.  Choices are good (I think).

Eh?  Ink jets that can do color are definitely over $400, but several
black-and-white ink jet printers are well under $400.


Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors.

Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside

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87072 30-APR 18:58 General Information
     RE: Printers (Re: Msg 87059)
     From: LMCCLURE     To: 10BAUD

          "All the ink jets seem to be priced over $400."

If all the ink jets you have seen are over $400, either you have
definitely been looking in the wrong places, or you don't consider
anything that prints in black only to be an inkjet. <grin>

For color printing, (unless for some strange reason you are only
printing color text), a dot matrix can't touch and inkjet for quality.
A dot matrix simply has too much banding and smearing, and not enough
saturation.

Frankly, I would trade my color-capable Citizen GSX-140 24-pin any day
of the week for a Canon BJ-200 or H-P DJ500...maybe even an Epson Stylus.


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87084 1-MAY 12:59  General Information
     RE: Printers (Re: Msg 87072)
     From: 10BAUD       To: LMCCLURE (NR)

I must admit I don't do color printing, or printing that would really
benefit from color.  That may be why I'm so satisfied with my 24 pin
black and white Epson Action Printer 3250.
Are you implying that a b/w ink jet is as inexpensive as a 24 pin?

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End of Thread.

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87060 30-APR 02:18 Programmers Den
     RE: Pixel_Blaster (Re: Msg 86996)
     From: MICHAELJN    To: DSRTFOX (NR)

Thanks for the info. I will not be able to join you at Chicago but I will
consider subscribing.

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87061 30-APR 03:45 Telecom (6809)
     New Xmout module for Ribbs
     From: STEWARD      To: ALL

  I have just submitted a new Xmout module for Ribbs, that will allow the
transfer of files with a Dbridge system during a Wazoo session. Should also
continue to work with current systems.

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87062 30-APR 09:34 General Information
     RE: Internet (Re: Msg 87008)
     From: TEDJAEGER    To: LMCCLURE

Thanks, I'll try again. Do know I got spelling right.

Bests
---TedJaeger

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87065 30-APR 16:14 Programmers Den
     RE: C Compiler (Re: Msg 87012)
     From: DBREEDING    To: JRUPPEL (NR)

 > Can anyone tell me if there is a way to assemble a C programming
 > environment using the Level II RMA?

I'm assuming you are asking how to call it from "CC"?  If so, you have
2-3 options.

 1) Rename rma c.asm in commands file.
 2) Stop before assembly ( cc1 -a prog...) then call "rma" manually.
 3) There are several replacement "cc's" available here and elsewhere
    that are/can be modified.
 4) Edit current "cc1".  Use "ded" or other means to locate character
    string "c.asm".  Then replace with "rma\0".  Be sure to terminate
    it with the null (original 'm' will be ignored).

You will also have to use "rlink" to link the code, since the original
"c.link" cannot handle "rma" output, since "rma" includes additional
data.  "rlink" _CAN_, however, link code produced by "c.asm".
The above suggestions can apply for "rlink" also.

                   -- David Breeding --
                 CompuServe :  72330,2051
                     Delphi :  DBREEDING

         ***  Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 ***
                       ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

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87067 30-APR 17:11 Telecom (6809)
     RiBBS
     From: DENNYWRIGHT  To: ALL

Does anyone out there use RiBBS with the Tandy deluxe RS-232 pak?
A friend has one that he can't seem to get to work. When people call after the
connect 2400 message the computer just sits there. It will not respond to the
caler. Any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated.

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87068 30-APR 17:19 Telecom (6809)
     RE: RiBBS (Re: Msg 87067)
     From: STEWARD      To: DENNYWRIGHT

  Well, a few things come to mind.  Does if have the correct carrier call code
and Carrier bit set in rconfig for the serial port driver he's using? Does he
have the swapped cable?
  Is Ribbs reporting a Carrier Detected message before the Connect message?

  Let me know what his system confiqureation is as far as what driver port, his
setting in his rconfig etc.

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87070 30-APR 18:39 Telecom (6809)
     RE: RiBBS (Re: Msg 87068)
     From: DENNYWRIGHT  To: STEWARD

carrier callcode is 130, carrier bit is 64, Using       Sacia and /T2 with a swa
pped
cable. I don't know if there is a carrier detected message or not. Hope this
helps.

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87073 30-APR 18:58 Telecom (6809)
     RE: RiBBS (Re: Msg 87070)
     From: STEWARD      To: DENNYWRIGHT (NR)

  For Sacia, he needs a Carrier Callcode of 40.  Also,  find out what his xmode
is for /t2

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87081 1-MAY 09:09  Telecom (6809)
     RE: RiBBS (Re: Msg 87070)
     From: JWILKERSON   To: DENNYWRIGHT (NR)

   I think he should use MWP rather than SACIA.  That is what Ed and I
used..... too bad Ed has disappeared.....

Seeya
          -- John

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End of Thread.

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87075 30-APR 21:37 Applications (6809)
     RE: ESC/P22 code (Re: Msg 87038)
     From: CHYDE        To: JRUPPEL (NR)

As long as the source is in C (or perhaps basic) the code should be portable.
Unfortunately the program may require more mempry than the 6809's 64k
workspace.  You may be able to work around this using virtual memory,
but you would have to write the paging routines, which may or may not
be easy <g>.  Of course if I remeber right the dvi-esc/p2 program requires
the input file to be a Tex dvi file and Tex is just too large to run
on the CoCo.

        Chris

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87076 30-APR 21:40 General Information
     RE: VIP Writer (Re: Msg 86979)
     From: BANDMAN      To: WA2EGP

Thanks for the comeback! I have located what I needed from another SIG member!
DELPHI and the Community comes through again!  Thanks again for the help!


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87078 1-MAY 01:46  General Information
     hi!
     From: NETCRUISER   To: ALL

hi all! glad to be back! used to be user DEMIGOD, missed y'all!



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87079 1-MAY 01:47  Applications (6809)
     msdos
     From: NETCRUISER   To: ALL

does anyone know of an msdos program that will read and write os9 disks?
ive been looking for one for a while now, cant seem to find...

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87083 1-MAY 11:34  Applications (6809)
     RE: msdos (Re: Msg 87079)
     From: COLORSYSTEMS To: NETCRUISER (NR)

 > does anyone know of an msdos program that will read and write os9 disks?
 > ive been looking for one for a while now, cant seem to find...

There is one called Elite*Xfer. Available from:

Elite Software
Box 11224
Pittsburgh, PA 15238


 ------------------------------------
  Zack C Sessions

  "We did not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors,
     we borrowed it from our descendants."           Ancient proverb


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87080 1-MAY 01:49  Programmers Den
     programmers den
     From: CEELEE       To: ALL

Help, OS9cn(tom Birt, told me that someone had offered to release the source
code for STG bbs (I think). I would like,along with others in the OS9 Users of
San Diego, try porting it to os9000. also if anyone has been working on graphic
progerxxx orxxx prog
ramming with OS9000 please let us know. either Myself CeeLee or OS9CN
Thanks.

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87082 1-MAY 10:29  Applications (6809)
     Home manager
     From: MRUPGRADE    To: DSRTFOX (NR)

  Well Frank, we went to the speedier means last night to cut time ratios from
 Canada.  As youo suggested,, download.   I downloaded theh latest ver of
a
 nice things added.  Unless you using a PC for your subscriberlist,,, you
 may want to use theh mailer in this one.   It goes anywhere from a simple
 "aunt Martha's Christmas list,, to a pub;      
 publishers (international) mail base.  EXp dates an all.  It beats anything
 I've seen.

  BTW,, could get "Y" modem to recieve in ULTERM???   Xmodem worked fine.  now
 I gotta move 'em to OS with OS-Copy.  Dan      
Darn,, I may have to learn OS yet.
  Til then,,, Terry Simons

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87085 1-MAY 13:15  Telecom (6809)
     RE: Supercomm... (Re: Msg 86524)
     From: 10BAUD       To: DBREEDING (NR)

Not a big point, but every time I see the remark about osterm not
having ASCII upload, I like to point out that some kind soul created
"slowio" which I'm sure must be in the telcom data base here.
You just use the clear key to toggle to another window and type+
  slowio <filename >/t2
where "filename" is the ascii file you want to upload.  Once you get the
hang of it, it's really very easy.  If you toggle back to the osterm
window while the file is still uploading, you can see the characters
go by.
I mention it because I think that without slowio, I'd be looking for a
replacement for osterm which I love in every other respect.


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