

#: 18995 S3/Languages
    04-Oct-93  22:01:57
Sb: #Bug in R63
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: ALL

TO ALL WHO HAVE DOWNLOADED RMAPAT.AR:

I have been informed of a bug in my patch to "r63".  The tfr's & exg's using
the "W" register did not seem to work.  For a quick fix, change the byte at
offset $179B from $0e to $10..

The new CRC should be $77B166.

If anyone has any more bug reports, please let me know and I will upload a new
patcfile.

..Sorry!!!!

David


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#: 19019 S3/Languages
    06-Oct-93  23:01:04
Sb: #18995-Bug in R63
Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051
To: David Breeding 72330,2051

Regarding the patch to "r63"...
   (change byte @ $179b from $0e to $10) If you have uploaded this anywhere,
would you please pass this patch along?
  Also, The CRC above is for an otherwise unmodified version.

David

#: 19013 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Oct-93  14:47:19
Sb: #14.4K access
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

I've been meaning to ask, are you taking advantage of the recently announced
14.4k bps nodes for accessing CompuServe?


*- Steve -*


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#: 19018 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Oct-93  22:30:57
Sb: #19013-14.4K access
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

No, I've not tried any of the 14400 nodes...I don't think that making an
international call would compensate for the speed increase. However, I can't
wait till my Vancounver node gets "fully" converted!

#: 18993 S9/Utilities
    04-Oct-93  20:10:05
Sb: #18989-#AR
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)

I went looking to DL the beta ar to test it, but I can't find it? What is it
called? Or has it been deleted from the lib?

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#: 18999 S9/Utilities
    05-Oct-93  11:27:42
Sb: #18993-AR
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

I had to go looking as well. It's AR_BET.AR in LIB 9.


*- Steve -*


#: 19009 S9/Utilities
    06-Oct-93  04:05:36
Sb: #18993-AR
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Bob,

The file name is AR_BET.AR in LIB 9.

        -Bill-

#: 19002 S9/Utilities
    05-Oct-93  20:00:59
Sb: #18989-AR
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)

Ian,

Shoot me a copy of that test file, eh?

I just AR'd my cmds directory with AR1.92 and had no problem.

Weird!


*- Steve -*


#: 19007 S9/Utilities
    05-Oct-93  22:32:39
Sb: #18989-AR
Fm: Ken Scales 74646,2237
To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X)

Ian -

Just a wild thought here...  Are you running with Shellplus?  I wonder if, by
any chance, the new version of 'ar' is being bitten by the same memory
allocation problems that affected 'kbcom' and earlier versions of Ultimuse?

If you are using Shellplus, you could try using dEd on the original Shell to
change its internal name to something different (I used "ohell"), then save it
in your CMDS directory under this name.  Then try executing:

      [shellplus]: ohell ar1.92 -u testfile

and see if it works.  (I can't try it here because my CC3 is crippled.)

 ... / Ken
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237
         ** Composed with KVed/Ved and uploaded with InfoXpress **

#: 19010 S9/Utilities
    06-Oct-93  04:05:52
Sb: #18968-AR
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76

Carl,

I just retested the latest version, and just by accident duplicated Ian's
results. In my case, I really was out of memory, only 40K free. The 216 error
is a little confusing though. I haven't had time to do anything more than a few
files.

        -Bill-

#: 18991 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    04-Oct-93  11:43:30
Sb: OS9 Prompts
Fm: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204
To: Sysop (X)

        10...9...8...7...6...5..4..3..2..1..0 !!!

        YAOQ (Yet Another OS-9 Question):

        I installed Shell + in my CoCo III under OS9LII, and there are a LOT of
things I like using it rather than the stock shell included in the original
package.... specially the p="[$] " method to include the current data drive in
the prompt line... trouble is that I did include the statement in my Startup
file: here and there as a matter of fact... but when the system ends the
booting process, all I get is the Term prompt, I have to setup the prompt again
from the command line..... am I missing something here?


Rogelio Perea


#: 19004 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    05-Oct-93  21:08:47
Sb: #new ar
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Carl Krieder 71076,76

I did a quick test of ar1.92 and found the same problems as others reported.
But, I also found a solution <g>. The problem is that these testers were using
shell+. And shell+ forks all programs with (as I recall) a min. of 8K stack
memory. However, if you switch to the standard shell all works fine. I have a
copy of the MW shell on in my cmds renamed to tshel just for these kinds of
problems. Hope this helps.

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#: 19012 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    06-Oct-93  10:07:42
Sb: #19004-new ar
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

AAhhhh ... that explains it then. While I _am_ using shell plus, it is a
<cough><sputter> way later revision!


*- Steve -*


#: 19017 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    06-Oct-93  20:53:19
Sb: #19004-#new ar
Fm: Ken Scales 74646,2237
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

 > I did a quick test of ar1.92 and found the same problems as others
 > reported. But, I also found a solution <g>. The problem is that these
 > testers were using shell+.

Jeeyiminy, Bob... first message I leave here in over a year, and you managed to
"scoop" me by an hour and a half!

After installing the InfoXpress upgrade, I decided to try setting it up for
CompuServe as well.  We'll see how the Bell Canada bill goes...
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Ken Scales   Delphi:KSCALES   Internet:kscales@delphi.com   CIS:74646,2237
         ** Composed with KVed/Ved and uploaded with InfoXpress **

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#: 19020 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo)
    07-Oct-93  01:07:20
Sb: #19017-new ar
Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762
To: Ken Scales 74646,2237

OK, you and Bob and Steve are all correct; shell+ is the problem. I dug out the
original shell and renamed (and patched) it to tshel and ar1.92 now works fine.
Mind you, on text files "ar -u" and "ar -ub12" seem to give archives exactly
the same size. May be better on binaries.

Conveniently, ar is comfortably short (by more than the length of tshel) of
16K-512, so I merged it with tshel. Pre-loading ar for an archiving session now
allows the use of "tshel ar ...." without constantly exercising the floppies.
Of course, I left another copy of tshel in the cmds directory for the times I
just type "tshel ar" without loading it first. Too bad there is no convenient
way to just be able to type "ar". One of shell+'s minor shortcomings is that it
doesn't let shell scripts pass command line parameters to one or more
variables. This is a feature I use heavily in MSDOS shell. (Or does it? Have I
missed anything?) Hmmmm... I don't suppose ALIAS allows the use of a space in a
pseudo module name; that would be convenient.

#: 19005 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Oct-93  21:17:10
Sb: #18945-Magazine Index
Fm: Dieter G. Rossmann 70314,1766
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)

Hi Bob,  Got the disk mailer with KVED, and all the other upgrades!  Also got
the Crib game, and the Magazine index program,  Thanks!     The cheque for what
I ow you I also send of yesterday.

Am going on an holiday for a week now, starting tomorrow morning, when I get
back I will installl the programs and try them out,  let you know how I make
out...

Thanks for everyting!     G'Day!
                                                      Dieter

#: 18997 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Oct-93  06:57:08
Sb: #18971-#/t3 & /t4
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)

Larry,

 > I forgot to mention that I also tried InfoExpress and Tascom as well as
 > Sterm, but with the same results, transmit is working but no receive.
 > These programs all worked fine when I was using them on /t0, but /t3 & /t4
 > are no go.

You might try putting a loopback on the ports and see if anything you type is
echoed back.  Just short pins 2 and 3 and fire up Sterm and type away. If you
get nothing back, then the 68681 is probably bad.


                  /************* /\/\ark ************/

                  (uploaded with InfoXpress Ver 1.01)

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#: 18998 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Oct-93  08:15:03
Sb: #18997-#/t3 & /t4
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Mark,
   I should have taken this first message off the board, I found the problem.
The MM1 is A-OK, I had a bad MC1488 IC in this Zoom modem. I replaced it, and
it works fine now.
  I'll make a note about that shorting of pins 2 & 3 together as a test, I
never even thought of that.
  Thanks Mark

larry

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#: 19023 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-Oct-93  07:41:14
Sb: #18998-/t3 & /t4
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)

Larry,

 > I'll make a note about that shorting of pins 2 & 3 together as a test, I
 > never even thought of that.
 > Thanks Mark

You're welcome, and I'm glad it now works.


                  /************* /\/\ark ************/

                  (uploaded with InfoXpress Ver 1.01)

#: 19021 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-Oct-93  02:30:05
Sb: #18986-/t3 & /t4
Fm: keith bauer 71102,317
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

 > Here are the ident's for the sc68681 driver and te /t3 descriptor I'm
 > using. Ignore the CRC problem with /t3 as it's normal due to parameter
 > changes.
 > Header for:      sc68681
 > Module size:     $956        #2390
 > Owner:           0.2
 > Module CRC:      $A5E626     Good CRC
 > Header parity:   $1E57       Good parity
 > Edition:         $1F         #31
 > Ty/La At/Rev     $E01        $A000
 > Permission:      $555        -----e-r-e-r-e-r
 > Dev Drv, 68000 obj, Sharable, System State Process

Steve, I see you have a later editon than I do. I check lib 12 and the only one
in there is from Nov 92 which is edition 29. Where else might I be able to come
up with this later version?

Thanks

 Keith Bauer

           CIS     :71102,317   Delphi  :keithbauer
           Internet:keithbauer@delphi.com

 Via InfoXpress/OSK ver 1.01    How 'bout them Cowboys!

#: 18994 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-Oct-93  20:10:06
Sb: #18984-More New Shell
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X)

Hey, John...hang in there! Just 'cause someone doesn't agree with your ideas,
well that shouldn't be a big deal. Seems that choice of programming language
and what should/should not be in a program is held by many of us with a
religious zeal. And in the fervor we sometimes end up turning on the flames.

It appears that program size may become more important...all the other programs
are getting so large we have to find ways to cut in other places...either that
or do the easy thing of getting more memory. Fun.

#: 19006 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Oct-93  21:17:16
Sb: #18984-#More New Shell
Fm: Dieter G. Rossmann 70314,1766
To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X)

Yes!  We do need Forker, if it is anyting like shellplus for OS9 level II, then
we do need it, even if only for the size!

So I say Yes!  Soon as You get it finiched I will order the Forker Shell from
You!

G'Day!
             Dieter

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#: 19024 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-Oct-93  07:41:23
Sb: #19006-More New Shell
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Dieter G. Rossmann 70314,1766

Dieter,

Just wanted to let you know I hadn't sent out your copy of InfoXpress yet. I
got bogged down in getting ready for the fest, and making updates to the
InfoXpress manual.  I didn't want to send you the program without the latest
docs.

Now that I'm back, I got the flu.  Just typing this message is a chore. Once I
get back on my feet, I'll get the docs done and get your order to you.  Sorry
for the delay, hope you understand.


                  /************* /\/\ark ************/

                  (uploaded with InfoXpress Ver 1.01)

#: 18990 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-Oct-93  01:26:50
Sb: #circadd
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

John,

    I just downloaded your Circadd program, it looks good, I'll be sending you
an order.

    The real reason for the message is that I see you were also bit by the line
drawing bug in KWindows. I also ran into this problem of non-uniform boxes in
some of the programs where I wanted to draw a grid. I didn't find a solution,
but I did find a fix that would work in some cases.

   The fix involves using the LSet function. Don't ask me why, but with
 LSet = 0, you can't draw a uniform grid, but by setting LSet to 1 or 2
 the grid lines come out uniform.

 The way I use this is to:

       LSet(path, 1);              /* Set to AND (or 2 to OR) */

     /* Do line drawing here */

       LSet(path, 0);              /* Reset back to no logic  */

   The only problem with this method is that you sometimes run into different
color lines than you thought when you AND or OR with the background.
   Depending on the colors, this might or might not be a problem.

 I hope this helps

  Larry Olson



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#: 19003 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    05-Oct-93  20:32:06
Sb: #18990-#circadd
Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676
To: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467 (X)

Thanks for the tip, Larry, I'll check it out.

If you want to order the program, contact Mark Griffith - His "Dirt Cheap
Computer Stuff Co" is handling that end.

John Wainwright

** Not InfoXpress this time -- messydos machine -- ---- MM/1 under surgery ***

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#: 19008 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-Oct-93  01:02:30
Sb: #19003-circadd
Fm: LARRY OLSON 72227,3467
To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X)

John,
   Ok, I'll get in touch with Mark about the program.

   Are you still working on it, or have you got another program in mind ?

  I finally got all your Ghostscript files from the other service, but looking
at all this stuff, I'm lost. At this point I have no idea of what I need to do
in order to do some printing to this dj550c.
  I'm going to have to buy a box of paper to print out the doc's. ;-)
  Any hints on getting started  ???

larry

#: 18992 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    04-Oct-93  13:48:54
Sb: NFM to DOS/Windows?
Fm: David Briggs [Vector] 100113,1203
To: ALL

Does anyone know of a product that will allow a PC running DOS/Windows to
communicate with an OS/2 NFM network running over ARCNET?

The PC needs to be able to exchange data with stations on an OS/9-NET, so one
or more file or pipe connection(s) would probably be needed.

Can anyone help? Thanks for any assistance.

David Briggs
Vector Networks (UK) +44 827 67333

  

#: 19011 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    06-Oct-93  05:01:25
Sb: CD-I Infomercial
Fm: Eric Crichlow 71051,3516
To: All

    Have I just been out of it for a long time, or is the paid advertisement
infomercial about CD-I a brand new development? If its something new its good
to se Philips pushing it a little harder. Unfortunately I only caught the tail
end of it so I don't know what the whole thing focussed on. I wonder if T.V.
Guide gives the name of the products being advertised in these infomercials?
    Anyone else seen it? If so, let me know if its worth tracking down to
watch.
..Eric...

Press <CR> !>