The following message was delivered at Grace Community Church in Panorama 
City, California, By John MacArthur Jr.  It was transcribed from the tape,
GC 90-63, titled "Charismatic Chaos" Part 12.  A copy of the tape can be 
obtained by writing, Word of Grace, P.O. Box 4000, Panorama City, CA 91412.

I have made every effort to ensure that an accurate transcription of the 
original tape was made.  Please note that at times sentence structure may 
appear to vary from accepted English conventions.  This is due primarily to 
the techniques involved in preaching and the obvious choices I had to make in 
placing the correct punctuation in the article.

It is my intent and prayer that the Holy Spirit will use this transcription 
of the sermon, "Charismatic Chaos" Part 12, to strengthen and encourage the 
true Church of Jesus Christ.



                         Charismatic Chaos - Part 12

                    "Does God Promise Health and Wealth?"
                                  (Part 2)
                                     by
                               John MacArthur


The subject tonight in our study of the Charismatic Chaos is the Health, 
Wealth, and Prosperity gospel.  We can title this message with a question, 
"Does God Promise Health and Wealth?"  

When I was in the Soviet Union a couple of weeks ago they said to me, "We 
want you to preach on the 'Health and Wealth' gospel."  I was talking to 
hundreds of pastors, and Pastor DuChanchenko (sp.) who heads up the Church 
there in the Ukraine said, "I want you to preach on the 'Health-Wealth' 
gospel."  I said, "You're not telling me that that's a problem here?"  How 
could anybody go to the Soviet Union and promise people wealth?  A whole 
nation in poverty!  He said, "It's here."  He said, 

      Recently, outside of Kiev, a man came from America and he called 
      the people in the city together, and he said [that] he represented 
      Jesus Christ, and he was going to preach.  And a great crowd of 
      non-Christian people came to hear him, and he promised them that 
      God wanted them healthy and wealthy!  And he said that if they 
      came back the next night the power of God would fall and they 
      would all be healed!  And so they came.  A large crowd came and 
      nobody got healed--and they spit on the man!  They spit on the
      man!  

The kind of foolish promises that are being made that cannot be fulfilled 
bring a terrible reproach to the name of Christ.  

One of the most unusual legacies of World War II has been what are known as 
the "Cargo Cults of the South Pacific."  Anybody who lives in Australia or 
New Zealand knows about them.  Many Aboriginal Island people ranging from 
northern Australia to Indonesia were first exposed to modern civilization 
through the allied armed forces during World War II.  The American military, 
in particular, often used these remote islands in the South Pacific as sites 
for temporary landing strips and supply depots.  And those of you who  
remember the scenario of World War II--personally I have absolutely no memory 
of any of it because I was so small, but I have read and I know what 
occurred--some of you will even remember, and some of you will remember your 
history books and be reminded of the fact that we were all over the South 
Pacific on remote little islands with our landing strips and our supply 
depots so that we could keep our men in the air particularly.  And so when 
Americans and other allies came to these little islands and met these 
Aboriginal island people they came bringing cargo.  They flew in there, 
created these airstrips so they could fly larger equipment in there.  And 
then they brought in huge warehouses full of cargo and they left as quickly 
as they came when the war ended.  The tribal people had absolutely no 
opportunity to learn the ways of civilization, but for a brief moment they 
saw high technology up close.  Cargo planes would swoop in from the sky, they 
would land, they would unload their payload and then takeoff.  

Natives that lived in the bush all of a sudden saw cigarette lighters that 
produced fire instantly and they believed it to be miraculous.  They saw 
large machines come in and push trees down.  They went all the way from not 
even having a wheel or a cart to seeing a Jeep, modern weaponry, 
refrigerators, radios (talking boxes), power tools, and many varieties of 
food in all kinds of cans and jars.  They were fascinated by all of that and 
many of those tribal people concluded that the white men were gods.  When the 
war was over and the troops were gone tribesmen built shrines to the "cargo 
gods."  Their tabernacles were perfect replicas of cargo planes, control 
towers and airplane hangers.  They made them out of bamboo and woven 
material.  These structures look remarkably like the control towers and the 
plane hangers and the planes themselves, but they were really nonfunctional; 
all they were was shrines or temples to the cargo gods.  

On some of those remote islands today the cargo cults still thrive.  Some 
have personified all Americans in one deity and they call that deity "Tom 
Navy."  They pray for holy cargo from every airplane that flies over.  They 
venerate religious relics like Zippo lighters, cameras, eyeglasses, ballpoint 
pens, nuts and bolts, and so on.  As civilization has begun to penetrate some 
of these cultures their fascination for cargo has not diminished.  In fact, 
missionaries that have been sent to these areas where cargo cults have 
flourished receive a warm reception at first because the cargo cultist view 
their arrival as the "Second Coming" of the cargo god.  But they are looking 
for cargo--not gospel.  And missionaries say they find it very difficult to 
penetrate the materialism that is the essence of the cargo cults.  

In recent years the Charismatic movement has spawned its own variety of cargo 
cult.  It is called the "Word-Faith Movement"; known otherwise as the "Faith 
Movement," known as the "Faith Formula," known as the "Word of Faith," 
"Hyperfaith," "Positive Confession," "Name It and Claim It," "Health, Wealth, 
and Prosperity Teaching," all of those titles.  This subdivision of the 
Charismatic movement, listen, is easily as superstitious and materialistic as 
the "Cargo Cults" of the South Pacific.  The Leaders of this Word-Faith 
movement, including Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, Robert 
Tilton, Fred Price, and Charles Capps (sp.), promise each believer financial 
prosperity and perfect health; anything less, they argue, is not God's will!  
And there are many people who "chime" in with this; in fact, if I understand, 
last week there was a great, great convocation at the church of Fred Price, 
which espouses this, attended by many, not only Charismatics and Pentecostals 
but even a leading Presbyterian pastor in our area.  They were all there.  

The tentacles of this kind of theology has reached out far and wide.  They 
have sought mainstream acceptance and they have managed to build 
relationships with people, who because of those relationships will not speak 
the truth against them, and so the thing flourishes like a wildfire.  And of 
course it appeals to people because it demands nothing but faith; it doesn't 
demand holiness, it doesn't demand devotion or dedication, it only demands 
faith and it promises that if you have enough you'll get rich and 
healthy--that's a popular message.  

I suppose that we could say that virtually every false religion ever spawned 
by man worships a god whose function it is to deliver some kind of "cargo."  
That is, human religion invariably invents gods for utilitarian reasons.  
They invent gods that give them what they want.  They invent deities to serve 
them rather than the other way around.  The Word-Faith theology has turned 
Christianity into a system that is no different from the lowest human 
religions.  It is a form of voodoo where God can be coerced, cajoled, 
manipulated, controlled, and exploited for the Christian's own ends.

I received a mailing sent out by one rather extreme Word-Faith teacher named 
David Eppley (sp.).  A brochure was included with a bar of prayer-blessed 
soap, quote, 

      We are going to wash away all bad luck, sickness, misfortunes, 
      and evil!  Yes, even that evil person you want out of your 
      life.  Jesus helped a man wash blindness from his eyes; I want 
      to help you concerning hexes, vexes, home problems, love, 
      happiness, and joy. (the brochure said).

Inside the brochure were testimonies from people who had been blessed by that 
ministry.  "Door opens to new job!" said one.  "An $80,000 dream comes true!" 
said another.  "Couldn't use my hand for twelve years!" said another.  Also 
inside was a personal letter from the pastor closing with a full page of 
instructions on how to use the soap.  If you used it right it would bring you 
healing and money, 

      Now, after you wash the poverty from your hands, take out the 
      largest bill or check you have.  That $100, $50, or $20 bill, 
      hold it in your clean hands and say, "In Jesus' name I dedicate 
      this gift to God's work and expect a miracle return of money."  

And of course, your largest bill or check must be sent to David Eppley (sp.).
The last paragraph said,

      Through this gift of discernment, I see someone sending a $25 
      offering and God is showing me a large check coming to them in 
      the next short while I mean "large;" it looks like over $1,000!  
      I know this sounds strange but you know me well enough to know 
      that I have to obey God when He speaks.  I'll be here waiting 
      for your answer.

Frankly, that sounds more like Black Magic.  Certainly a more outrageous 
example than most, but still it reflects a style that is typical of nearly 
all Word-Faith ministries.  If it was just plain hucksterism that would be 
bad enough.  I guess I could tell you honestly, I could take Reverend Ike.  I 
could take Reverend Ike because . . . (I don't know if you know who he is, but 
if you don't, don't worry about him)--but, I can take Reverend Ike because 
he uses the same gimmick, but he doesn't make it Christian!  What corrupts so 
devastatingly is to tie this kind of con game into Christ!

Word-Faith teachers have corrupted the heart of New Testament Christianity.  
They have moved the believers' focus off sound doctrine, worship, service, 
sacrifice, and ministry; and they have shifted it instead to promised 
physical, financial, and material blessings.  Those blessings are the cargo 
that God is supposed to deliver to those who know and follow the Word-Faith 
formula.

Word-Faith writings . . . and there are myriad of these things, you can't even 
keep up with them.  I got a new one this week that somebody sent me to try to 
help me to see the truth.  It's a thick book and it is all about all of these 
Word-Faith teachers.  It has all their pictures on the front.  There is 
almost no end to the proliferation of literature (many trees are dying in 
this operation to be used for pulp and paper).  Word-Faith articles carry 
titles like, "How to Write Your Own Ticket with God," "Godliness is 
Profitable," "The Laws of Prosperity," "God's Creative Power Will Work for 
You," "Releasing the Ability of God Through Prayer," "God's Formula for 
Success and Prosperity," "God's Master Key to Prosperity," "Living in Divine 
Prosperity," and so it goes.

In Word-Faith religion the believer uses God, whereas, the truth of Biblical 
Christianity is--God uses the believer!  Word-Faith theology sees the Holy 
Spirit as a Power to be put to use for whatever the believer wants.  The 
Bible teaches, however, that the Holy Spirit is a person who enables the 
believer to do whatever God wants.  It is absolutely the opposite of 
Scripture.  Many Word-Faith teachers claim that Jesus was "Born Again" so 
that we might become "little gods."  Scripture, however, teaches that Jesus 
is God and it is we who must be born again.  

Frankly, I have little or no tolerance for these deceptions, these corruptions 
of Scriptures and false claims of the Word faith movement.  I have absolutely 
no constraints on me to speak to this issue because I believe that I am 
literally bound by my obligation as one called to minister the truth of God
to so speak, because this defies everything I understand to be true about 
Scripture.  

The movement [Word-Faith] closely resembles some of the destructive greed 
sects that ravaged the early church.  Paul and other apostles were not 
accommodating to or conciliatory with the false teachers who propagated ideas 
like that in their day.  They identified them as dangerous false teachers and 
urged Christians to avoid them.  Paul warned Timothy, for example, about "Men 
of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a 
means of gain."  This isn't anything new.  Paul was dealing with those who 
thought godliness was a ticket for money.  Paul further said to Timothy, 

      But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare 
      and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin 
      and destruction.  For the love of money is a root of all sorts 
      of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the 
      faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.  But flee from 
      these things. [1 Tim 6:9-11, NASB].

These cults are generated, know this, out of a love for money!  They develop 
a religion to accommodate their lusts.  Jude wrote of the greed mongers of 
his day, 

      Woe to them!  For they have gone the way of Cain, and for pay 
      they have rushed headlong into the error of Balaam, and perished 
      in the rebellion of Korah.  These men are those who are hidden 
      reefs in your love-feasts when they feast with you without fear, 
      caring for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by 
      winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted; wild 
      waves of the sea, casting up their own shame like foam; 
      wandering stars, for whom the black darkness has been reserved 
      forever . . . They are grumblers, finding fault, following after 
      their own lusts; they speak arrogantly, flattering people for 
      the sake of gaining an advantage. [Jude 11-13, 16 NASB].

There is nothing that I could say that would be as strong as that, and that 
is out of God's Word.  Peter wrote, 

      But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there 
      will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly 
      introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who 
      bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.  And 
      many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way 
      of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will 
      exploit you with false words. [2 Pet 2:1-3, NASB].  

Peter went on to say, 

      Their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction 
      is not asleep . . . For speaking out arrogant words of vanity 
      they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, [that is, they 
      entice you by the things you lust for], and they entice those 
      who barely escape from the ones who live in error, promising 
      them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for 
      by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved. [2 Pet 2:3, 
      18-19, NASB].

You show me a person who preaches the "Money Gospel," the "Money Message," 
the "Wealth Message," I'll show you a person who has been corrupted by the 
love of money; that's what Peter is saying.  Paul said covetousness is 
idolatry and Paul forbade the Ephesians to be partakers with anyone who 
brought either a message of immorality or a message of covetousness (Eph. 
5:5-7).  

Now the question is, "How closely do modern Word-Faith teachers resemble the 
greedy false teachers that the apostles described?  Is it fair to write the 
movement off as heretical?  As sub-Christian?"  Well, I want us to look at 
that, and let's find out.  In some ways I hesitate to label the Word-Faith 
movement as a cult only because its boundaries are, as yet, somewhat hazy.  
Many sincere Christians hover around the periphery of the Word-Faith 
teaching.  It isn't a sort of a bordered, identifiable cult.  It is somewhat 
amorphous and it floats in an almost undefined way and bumps in and out of 
all kinds of groups of Christians.  And so while on the one hand we can't say 
that everybody that it touches is cultic, all of the elements within it are 
cultic:  

      It has a distorted Christology that is a warped view of Christ.  

      It has a distorted view of man, an exulted view of man.  

      It has a theology built on human works.  

      It has a process of sanctification that justifies greed.  

      It has a belief that new revelation from within the group is unlocking 
      secrets that have been hidden from the Church for years.  

      It believes that extrabiblical human writings are inspired and 
      authoritative.

      It has an exclusivity that compels its adherents to shun any and every 
      criticism of the movement.  In fact, as you know, Benny Hinn said if 
      anybody criticizes him he wants, "to get a Holy Ghost machine gun and 
      blow their head off!"  

Without some exacting corrections in the movement's doctrinal foundations it 
will become a clearly identifiable cult, if it is not already so.  It 
certainly is the closest thing on earth to the greed cults of the New 
Testament era which the apostles bluntly labeled heresy.  Now, I know that is 
a serious verdict, but I think there is ample evidence to bear it out.  At 
almost every turn the Word-Faith movement has tainted, twisted, garbled, 
misunderstood, corrupted, or obliterated the crucial doctrines of Christian 
faith.  Let me help you with that by looking at some of them.

First of all, The Word-Faith movement has the wrong god!  It has the wrong 
god.  I believe that it is fair to say that the god of the Word-Faith 
movement is not the God of the Bible.  Word-Faith teaching, in effect, listen 
to this, sets the individual believer (are you ready for this?) above God, 
and turns God into Santa Claus, or a genie, or a valet who is there to do 
whatever the Christian tells Him.  See, these Word-Faith teachers are their 
own supreme authority.  Kenneth Hagin, who is patriarchal in this movement, 
wrote this booklet called, "How To Write Your Own Ticket With God."  He tells 
about seeing a vision of Jesus and he says to Him, 

      Dear Lord, I have two sermons I preach concerning the woman who 
      touched your clothes and was healed when you were on earth.  I 
      received both of these sermons by inspiration.  

I am quoting him.  Later on he quotes what Jesus told him in reply, Jesus 
said, 

      You are correct, My Spirit, the Holy Spirit, endeavored to get 
      another sermon into your spirit but you failed to pick it up.  
      While I am here I will do what you ask, I will give you that 
      sermon outline.  Now, get your pencil and paper and write it 
      down.

That's what Jesus said to him, he says.  Hagin claims to have received 
numerous visions as well as eight personal visitations from Jesus.  Hagin has 
written, "The Lord Himself taught me about prosperity.  I never read about it 
in a book; I got it directly from heaven."  That claim is a lie: outright, 
I'll show you why a little later.  You see they believe or they want every 
body else to believe that God is giving this information to them.  Do you 
understand beloved that if you do not have a closed Canon, and if Scripture 
did not end with the Book of Revelation, if you believe that God is still 
giving revelation--there is no way to stop the flood.  

Everybody is claiming God speaks to them.  Fortunately, for the Word-Faith 
people, God is telling them exactly what they want Him to say.  They have 
created God in the image that they want Him to be.  For example, they have no 
concept of God as sovereign.  Scripture says in Psalm 103:19, "The Lord has 
established His throne in the heavens; and His sovereignty rules over all."  
What that simply means is, God's in charge of everybody and everything.  God 
is the blest and only sovereign, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords (1 Tim 
6:15), yet in the volumes of Word-Faith material that I have read, I have 
not found one reference to the sovereignty of God--not one!  The reason is 
clear: they don't believe He is sovereign.  

Jesus, according to Word-Faith teaching, has no authority on earth: it is all 
delegated to the Church.  Kenneth Hagin says this in his book entitled, "The 
Authority of the Believer," which, by the way, has long sections which were 
taken verbatim from other books written by other people: and he says that he 
got them from God; it is just not true.  But he says that Jesus has no 
authority, He delegated it all to the Church; we are in charge of God and we 
are in charge of Jesus.  

Furthermore, Word-Faith theology teaches that God is bound by spiritual laws 
that govern health and prosperity.  God is bound by some laws; by some 
principles.  If we say the right words, or if we have the right faith, God is 
forced to respond however we determine.  Robert Tilton claims that God has 
already committed to take His part in a covenant relationship with us.  We 
can make whatever commitment or promise to Him we want, quote, says Tilton,

      Then we can tell God, on the authority of His Word, what we 
      would like Him to do.  That's right, you can actually tell God 
      what you would like His part in the covenant to be.

In the Word-Faith system God is not Lord of all: He can't work unless we 
release Him to work; He is dependent on human instruments; He is dependent on  
human faith; and above all, He has to act in response to human words to get 
His work done.  Charles Capps (sp.) has written, "It is in your power to 
release the ability of God."  In other words, "God is Stuck--until we speak 
His orders!"  On the other hand, according to Charles Capps (sp.) "Fear 
activates the devil."  If you succumb to fear, even doubting a little, he 
says, 

      You've moved God out of it.  You have stopped God's ability 
      immediately.  Maybe it was just about to come into 
      manifestation, but now you have established Satan's word in the 
      earth, "That it is not getting any better, it is getting worse."  
      You have established his word. 

What he is saying is, "If you have fear, you release the devil to work; if 
you have faith, you release God to work.  So if you are afraid of Satan, you 
have bottled God and set Satan loose," (My, you are a powerful person!).  
According to Charles Capps, in his book, "The Tongue--A Creative Force," God 
has turned over His sovereignty, including (listen to this) His creative 
authority, to people.  Capps has written, 

      In August of 1973 the Word of the Lord came unto me saying, 
      [Just that is frightening.  This is the Lord speaking to Charles 
      Capps] "If men would believe me, long prayers are not necessary.  
      Just speaking the Word will bring you what you desire.  My 
      creative power is given to man in word form.  I have ceased, for 
      a time, from My work and have given man the book of My creative 
      power.  For it to be effective man must speak it in faith Jesus 
      spoke it when He was on earth and as it worked then, so it shall 
      work now, but it must be spoken by the body.  Man must rise up 
      and have dominion over the power of evil by My words.  It is my 
      greatest desire that My people create a better life by the 
      spoken word, for My word has not lost its power just because it 
      has been spoken once.  It is still equally as powerful today as 
      when I said, 'Let there be light,' but for My word to be 
      effective, man must speak it; and that creative power will come 
      forth performing that which is spoken in faith."

Simply saying, in other words what he is stating is this, "You have the 
ability (if you have enough faith) to create with your words.  You want 
money?  Create it with your faith filled words.  You want healings?  Create 
it with your faith filled words."  It escapes my how one of these popular 
Word-Faith teachers could possibly be 5 Million dollars in debt; can't he 
just speak it into existence?  And then on the other hand, why pray at all if 
your words have so much creative force?  Why pray?  What's there to ask for?  
You really come up with a denial that you need to seek anything from God; 
after all, God has given the sovereignty to you, He's yielded up His creative 
power to you; it's not His word anymore, it was His word the first time, it 
is your word now.  Speak it into existence, you don't need Him--you're 
sovereign.

Another of their teachers, Norval Hayes (sp.), says it is better to talk to 
your checkbook, talk to your disease, or talk to whatever predicament you're 
in than to turn to God in prayer!  I'm quoting,

      You aren't supposed to talk to Jesus about it; you're supposed 
      to talk directly to the mountain in Jesus' Name (whatever the 
      mountain is in your life).  Stop talking to Jesus about it; stop 
      talking to anybody else about it; speak to the mountain itself 
      in Jesus' Name.  Don't say, "Oh God, help me.  Remove this 
      sickness from me," say, "Flu, I'm not going to let you come into 
      my body!  Go from me in the name of Jesus!  Nose, I tell you, 
      stop running!  Cough, I tell you to leave in Jesus' name!"  Say, 
      "Cancer, you can't kill me, I will never die of cancer in Jesus' 
      name!" [I'm quoting him further]  Do you have a financial 
      mountain in your life?  Start talking to your money.  Tell your 
      checkbook to line up with God's word.  Talk to your business.  
      Command customers to come into your business and spend their 
      money there.  Talk to the mountain.  
       
You laugh at this, and I understand that, but there are a lot of people who 
don't laugh at this--they are believing this.  Norval Hayes (sp.) has several 
publications and one of them titled "Putting Your Angels To Work" which 
indicates that you are not only sovereign over this world but you are 
sovereign over the angelic world as well.  Hayes also teaches that believers 
can exercise dominion over the angels, quote,

      Since angels are ministering spirits sent to minister to and for 
      Christians [he reasons], we can learn how to put them into 
      action on our behalf.  We believers ought to be keeping those 
      angelic creatures busy!  We ought to have them working for us 
      all of the time.

And so I think it is fair to say that Word-Faith theology denies the 
sovereignty of God, removes the need to pray to God for any relief from 
burdens or needs and gives the Christian himself both dominion and creative 
power.  In my judgment it is human pride at its ugliest.  Worse, it is 
idolatry and the new idol is self, and God is dethroned.  To follow this 
wrong-God concept a little further, the Word-Faith movement teaches that when 
you become a Christian you become part of a race of little gods.  Kenneth 
Copeland has explicitly stated what many Word-Faith teachers more subtly 
imply.  This is what Kenneth Copeland writes, 

      He imparted in you, when you were born again . . .Peter said it 
      just as plain, he said, "We are partakers of the divine nature." 
      That nature is life eternal in absolute perfection, and that was 
      imparted, injected into your spirit-man and you have that 
      imparted into you by God just the same as you imparted into your 
      child the nature of humanity.  That child wasn't born a whale, 
      he was born a human--isn't that true?  Well now, you don't have 
      a human do you?  You are one.  And you don't have a god in 
      you--you are one!

Copeland teaches that Adam was created in the god-class; that is, Adam was a 
reproduction of God!  Listen to what he says, 

      He was not subordinate to God--Adam was walking as a god!  What 
      he said "went," what he did "counted"; and when he bowed his 
      knee to Satan and put Satan up above him then there wasn't 
      anything God could do about it because a "god" had placed Satan 
      there.  Adam, remember, was created in the god-class, but when 
      he committed high treason he fell below the god-class.

"On the cross," according to Copeland, "Jesus won the right for believers to 
be born again back into the god-class.  Adam was created, not subordinate to 
God, but as a god; he lost it, and in Christ we are taken back to the god-
class."  In saying that, Copeland believes that Jesus, quote, 

      Won healing, He won deliverance, He won financial prosperity, 
      mental prosperity, physical prosperity, family prosperity.  He 
      said He would meet my needs according to His riches in glory by 
      Christ Jesus, and I am walking around and saying, "Yes, my needs 
      are met according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus."  
      Glory to God, I am coveting to the "need meter"; I am coveting 
      to the I AM; Hallelujah!  And I say this with all respect so 
      that it don't upset you too bad, but I say it anyway; when I read 
      in the Bible where He says "I AM" I just smile and say "Yes, I 
      AM too!"

That is so blasphemous that it ought to make every true child of God cringe, 
yet it is typical of Word-Faith teaching.  For any human being to call 
himself the "I AM," "YAHWEH" the eternal saving, sovereign God, is blasphemy.  
In the face of criticism for some of his statements about the deity of the 
believer, Copeland appeared with Paul and Jan Crouch on Trinity Broadcasting 
Network's program "Praise the Lord!" and he was there to defend his teaching, 
and this is the following conversation that ensued, 

      Paul Crouch said: God doesn't even draw a distinction between 
      Himself and us.  

      Kenneth Copeland said: Never, never, you never can do that in a 
      covenant relationship.

      Paul Crouch: Do you know what else that has settled then 
      tonight?  This hue and cry and controversy that has been spawned 
      by the devil to try and bring dissension within the Body of 
      Christ that we are gods--I am a little god!

      Kenneth Copeland: Yes, yes!

      Jan Crouch: Absolutely, He gave us His name.

      Kenneth Copeland: The reason we are . . .

      Paul Crouch: I have His name!  I am one with Him!  I'm in 
      covenant relations.  I am a little god!  Critics be gone!

      Kenneth Copeland: You are anything that He is.

      Paul Crouch: Yes!

Paul Crouch, head and "On Air" host of Trinity Broadcasting Network and 
therefore one of the most powerful influential people in religious 
broadcasting today, has reaffirmed repeatedly his commitment to the "little 
gods" doctrine of Word-Faith, quoting him,

      That new creation that comes in the new birth, is created in 
      His image.  It is joined then with Jesus Christ.  Is that 
      correct?  And so in that sense (I saw this many years ago) 
      whatever that union is that unites Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, 
      He says, "Father, I want them to be one with Me, even as You and 
      I are one in Us," so apparently [that's] what He does: He opens 
      up that union of the very Godhead and brings us into it.  

We become part of the Trinity in that view.  Other Word-Faith teachers have 
reiterated the heresy.  Charles Capps (sp.) writes,

      I have heard people say, "Those who confess God's Word and say 
      the promises of God over and over are just trying to act like 
      God."  Yes!  That's exactly what we are trying to do, act as God 
      would in a similar situation.  What did He do?  He spoke the 
      thing desired.  

Or O'Palk (sp.), another of them, wrote, "Until we comprehend that we are 
little gods and we begin to act like little gods, we cannot manifest the 
Kingdom of God."  Robert Tilton also calls the believer, "A god kind of 
creature designed to be as a god in this world.  Designed and created by God 
to be the god of this world."  Other of their popular preachers, Maurice 
Serullo (sp.) had this televised conversation with Dwight Thompson, you see 
him on Channel 40 frequently, 

      Maurice Serullo (sp.): See when God created us in His image He 
      didn't put any strings on us--did He?  He didn't make us 
      puppets. 

      Dwight Thompson: No, not at all!  

      Maurice Serullo: He didn't say, 'Maurice, raise your hand, 
      raise your, you know, and then here we are.  We have no 
      absolute, no control over us.

      Dwight Thompson: No, no, no!

      Maurice Serullo: He made Dwight Thompson, he made Maurice 
      Serullo a small miniature god.  Of course!  The Bible says that 
      we are created in the image of God, His likeness.  Where is that 
      god-likeness?  He gave us power.  He gave us authority.  He gave 
      us dominion.  He didn't tell us to act like a man, He told us to 
      act like a god.  

Benny Hinn adds, 

      The new creation is created after God in righteousness and true 
      holiness.  The new man is after God, like God, godlike, complete 
      in Jesus Christ.  The new creation is just like God.  May I say 
      it like this, "You are a little god on earth running around."

And then Hinn responded to criticism of such teaching this way, he said, 

      Now are you ready for some real revelation knowledge?  Ok, now 
      watch this!  He laid aside His divine form so one day I would be 
      clothed on earth with the divine form.  Kenneth Hagin has a 
      teaching; a lot of people have problems with it, yet it is 
      absolute truth.  Kenneth Copeland has a teaching, many 
      Christians have put holes in it, but it is divine truth.  Hagin 
      and Copeland say, "You are god, you are gods."  "Oh, I can't be 
      God!"  Hold it!  Let's bring balance to this teaching.  The 
      balance is being taught by Hagin; it is those who repeat him 
      that mess it up.  The balance is being taught by Copeland, who 
      is my dear friend, but it is those who repeat what he says that 
      are messing it up.  You see there brother, when Jesus was on 
      earth, the Bible says that He first disrobed Himself of the 
      divine form.  He, the limitless God, became a man that we men 
      may become as He is.

You'll notice in this that they land on the verses that indicate that we 
enter in and participate in some of the things that are true about God.  But 
they take it to the extreme where we become God.  We do participate in the 
love of God, don't we?  And in the righteousness of God, and enjoy the grace 
of God, but are not God.  Hagin says, 

      If we ever wake up and realize who we are we will start doing 
      the work that we are supposed to do, because the Church hasn't 
      realized yet that they are Christs, that's who they are.  They 
      are Christs.

Now, we are not only God--we are Christ!  Thus, have the Word-Faith teachers 
agreed to dispose God and to put us in His place.  From that basic error flow 
all the fallacies.  Why do they teach that health and prosperity are every 
Christian's divine right?  Because, we're God--we deserve it!  Right?  If I 
am God I deserve prosperity.  Why do they teach that a believer's words have 
creative and determinative force?  Because in their system we're God, and God 
could speak things into creation, and we're God so we can speak them into 
creation.  They have bought Satan's original lie.  The serpent said to the 
woman, "You surely shall not die, for God knows that in the day you eat from 
this fruit, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God."  That was a 
lie.  Man will never be like God.  We will be a glorified man--not God.  The 
idea that man can be like God, is and always has been the satanic lie.  It 
was the very lie . . . listen to this, [that] brought the devil himself down.  
He said, "I will be like God."  

Two proof texts are often used by the Word-Faith teachers to support their 
teaching.  In Psalm (you need to listen to this, this is their case here), in 
Psalm 82:6 God says to the rulers of earth, "You are gods; and all of you are 
sons of the Most High."  They quote that all of the time, Psalm 82:6, you 
might want to turn to it.  And we will close with just a look at the two 
texts they use, and we are going to take it up next week.  Psalm 82:6, God 
says to the rulers of earth, "You are 'gods'; and all of you are sons of the 
Most High."  And so they say, "See, God says we are gods!"  

A simple reading of the Psalm however, says something very, very, different 
than that.  If you look at the Psalm it will reveal to you that those words 
were spoken to ungodly rulers who were on the brink of judgment: ungodly 
rulers on the brink of judgment.  Look at verse 7, (they never want to read 
verse 7), "Nevertheless, you will die like men; and fall like any one of the 
princes.  Arise, O God, judge the earth."  What is this?  There is a note of 
irony.  God looks at these rulers and they have been rendering unjust 
judgments.  Back in verse 2 they have been judging unjustly; they have been 
showing partiality to the wicked.  They have been, rather, doing injustice 
than justice and He says, "Look, in your own eyes you think you are gods, but 
you are going to die like . . ." what?  "Men."  How could you ever rip that 
6th verse out of that context and make it an affirmation that a Christian has 
become a god?  Far from confirming their godhood, God is condemning them for 
thinking they were gods!

Word-Faith teachers will immediately turn to their other favorite proof text, 
John 10:33-34.  Guess what?  This is where Jesus quotes Psalm 82:6, so if you 
understand Psalm 82:6 you don't have a problem understanding John 10.  "The 
Jews answered Him, 'For a good work we do not stone you, but for blasphemy 
because you being a man make yourself out to be God.'"  And then Jesus 
answered them, "Has it not been written in your law, 'I said you are gods.'"  
Don't fail to notice Jesus' purpose for choosing that verse.  It would have 
been a very familiar one to the Scribes and Pharisees.  They would have 
understood that that verse was an condemnation of wicked rulers, and Jesus is 
simply echoing the irony of the original Psalm.  Walter Martin wrote an 
excellent comment on this, He said, "Jesus mocks the people as if to say, 
'You all think you are gods yourselves.  What's one more god among you?'"  
Oh, the irony.  You are going to stone me for claiming to be God, you all are 
claiming the same thing.  What's one more god?  The sarcasm.  

Walter Martin says, "Irony is used to provoke us, not to inform us.  It is 
not a basis for building a theology."  Further he says, "It is also pertinent 
to an understanding of John 10 that we remember that Satan is called the 
"ruler of this world" by no less an authority than Jesus Christ, and Paul 
reinforces this by calling him the "god of this age."  We can make a god out 
of anything: money, power, status, position, sex, patriotism, family, or as 
in Lucifer's case--an angel.  We can be our own god; but to call something 
deity or to worship it, or to treat it as divine is quite another thing.  
Then it is being by nature and in essence deity.  Jesus is not calling them 
"God" in the true sense; He is saying that you have made a god out of 
yourselves just like the people in Psalm 82 who felt the blast of God's 
judgment.  God said to the rebellious Israelites in Isaiah 29:16, "You turn 
things around!  Shall the potter be considered equal with the clay" (Isaiah 
29:16).  Does the clay think it is equal to the potter?"  According to the 
Word-Faith movement, what's the answer?  "Yes, if not superior."  They have 
the wrong god.

Well, they have some other things that are wrong and I'll tell you what they 
are next Sunday night, and we will start with the fact that they have the 
wrong Jesus.  

Father, even as we talk about these things we are thrown almost into 
disbelief, not because we are not used to error but we are not used to error 
being received by people who say they belong to the truth.  We are shocked 
that so many Christians who would affirm their belief in the truth will 
identify with the terrible heresies of this movement.  We feel like 
evangelical Christianity has become absolutely undefinable, it is so 
amorphous that it has no boundaries.  It is inexplicable.  We almost feel 
like we have to pull out of the whole thing and start all over again.  Lord, 
so many are confused, so many led astray.  We just pray that somehow Your 
truth will reach them and that they will worship you as the sovereign God and 
not turn You into their valet, but fall on their face in your presence and 
plead for the privilege to suffer if need be for your sake, sickness, poverty, 
or death, if You so will.  That like the Apostle Paul they would rejoice to 
suffer, they would be thankful for persecutions, distresses, deprivations, if 
it is your will because you are sovereign.

Father, help us to know that we are at best men and no more.  Men who have 
been touched with the transforming grace of Christ.  Men in whom the Holy 
Spirit live, but we are men and no more, redeemed men and as men we must be 
humbled before God.  We grieve Father, that You have been so dishonored, so 
humiliated that such a terrible reproach has come on your Holy Name from 
those who teach and believe such foolish things.  And we ask that You would 
be exalted and bring a halt to this degrading teaching for the Savior's sake 
we ask.  Amen.

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