     Volume 6, Number 45                               6 November 1989
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     Editor in Chief:                                  Vince Perriello
     Editors Emeritii:                                     Dale Lovell
                                                        Thom Henderson
     Chief Procrastinator Emeritus:                       Tom Jennings
     
     FidoNews  is  published  weekly  by  the  International   FidoNet
     Association  as  its  official newsletter.  You are encouraged to
     submit articles for publication in FidoNews.  Article  submission
     standards  are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC,  available from
     node 1:1/1.    1:1/1  is  a Continuous Mail system, available for
     network mail 24 hours a day.
     
     Copyright 1989 by  the  International  FidoNet  Association.  All
     rights  reserved.  Duplication  and/or distribution permitted for
     noncommercial purposes only.  For  use  in  other  circumstances,
     please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. IFNA may also be contacted
     at PO Box 41143, St. Louis, MO 63141.
     
     Fido  and FidoNet  are registered  trademarks of  Tom Jennings of
     Fido Software,  164 Shipley Avenue,  San Francisco, CA  94107 and
     are used with permission.
     
     We  don't necessarily agree with the contents  of  every  article
     published  here.  Most of these materials are  unsolicited.    No
     article submitted  by  a  FidoNet SysOp will be rejected if it is
     properly attributed and  legally  acceptable.    We  will publish
     every responsible submission received.


                        Table of Contents
     1. ARTICLES  .................................................  1
        IFNA Bylaws and Rules Committee Report  ...................  1
        IFNA/FidoNet Bylaws Proposal Draft  .......................  3
        IFNA/FidoNet Policy Proposal Draft  ....................... 12
        IFNA Referendum: Democracy or Discrimination?  ............ 23
        KinkNet Correction  ....................................... 26
        GET OUT THE VOTE!  ........................................ 27
        Zeamon Improves Wildcard Support for DOS and OS|2  ........ 29
     2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR  .................................... 31
        More on suggestions to IFNA Publications Policy  .......... 31
     3. LATEST VERSIONS  .......................................... 35
     And more!
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                                 ARTICLES
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     John Roberts
     FidoNet 1:385/49

     With many thanks to the Editor, Vince Perriello, the proposed
     IFNA Bylaws and Policy should appear in this issue of FidoNews.
     If you haven't already, here's where you get to see what all of
     the hubbub has been about.

     First of all, a note on availability if you'd like to request
     copies of these documents.  The current version of both of these
     documents is available as I_POLICY.ARC and I_BYLAWS.ARC from
     1:385/49 (XP/9600/HST/V32) and should also be available for
     request from 1:104/424 (XA/2400) and 1:107/583 (XP/9600/HST/V32)
     as well.

     You may well notice that I said "the current version" above.
     That's because these are both Draft documents at this time, and
     while I feel they're pretty solid overall, it's quite likely that
     there will be further changes before the due date for the final
     proposals to be submitted for vote.

     The point is that they're not carved in stone, and it's
     absolutely not too late for you to be heard if there's something
     you feel strongly about.  As a matter of fact, I'd sincerely like
     to hear your opinions.  If you're not interested in establishing
     a link to the IFNA_POL conference, by all means send me netmail.
     While I can't promise a personal reply to each and every message
     that comes in, I will promise to make sure that your opinions go
     before the committee for consideration.

     The IFNA_POL conference itself is still active and available for
     your comments and discussion, and will remain so as long as
     necessary.  The primary EchoMail link for the conference is Fabian
     Gordon at 1:107/323, and it's available in GroupMail format from
     both myself at 1:385/49 and Phil Buonomo at 1:107/583.

     Getting back to the documents themselves, in particular the
     Policy document, you'll notice that a lot of things simply aren't
     covered.  This is the way it was designed.  We've put into the
     basic policy only the things that we feel are absolutely
     necessary to the operation of the network.  The idea is that you,
     the "grunt sysop" (hasn't anyone got a better term for that?),
     are the one who should make the decisions on the details of how
     you want your network to operate, and that you should have a vote
     on each and every item that affects your operation within the
     network.

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     Thus the modular approach.  Details such as geographic
     boundaries, selection of coordinators, complaint and grievance
     procedures and other such things that have historically been such
     large points of contention will be added to the basic document as
     Appendices.  Each of these will be voted on separately to and
     independent of the basic policy and each other, and there may
     well be more than one choice for each major issue on the ballot
     along with "none of the above", which will also be a valid choice
     in this sort of election based on preference.

     I'm going to be presumptuous for a moment and ask you for two
     favors, even though I've never met or even corresponded with most
     of you before.  The first is related directly to the two
     documents I've been speechifying about, while the second is much
     more general.

     First, when reading these proposals, try not to read anything
     into them that isn't there.  Take them at face value - that's the
     way we've written them.  There's no "hidden agenda" or hidden
     anything else there, just an honest effort by a few people to put
     the control of FidoNet back into the hands of the sysops of
     FidoNet itself.

     Second, when you're given the opportunity to make your voice
     heard, whether by making comments and suggestions or by casting a
     vote in an election, take the few minutes needed to do so.  If
     you don't, then no one can know what your feelings and opinions
     are on whatever issues may be at hand.  I'm not talking just
     about FidoNet here, but about many of the other aspects of life
     as well.  Communication is a two-way process.  It's been said so
     often that it's rather cliche, but that hasn't made it any less
     true.

     Thanks!

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     IFNA Bylaws and Rules Committee
     Jason Steck, 1:104/424, Member
     Phil Buonomo, 1:107/583, Member
     John Roberts, 1:385/49, Chairman


              BYLAWS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION
                          (Proposed)(Draft v0.02)
                              prepared by the
                        Bylaws and Rules Committee
                                  of the
                     International FidoNet Association

                             November 1, 1989

     ARTICLE I - OFFICES

         Section 1. PRINCIPLE OFFICE.

             The principal office of the corporation shall be in the
             city of Saint Louis, State of Missouri.

         Section 2. OTHER OFFICES.

             The corporation may also have offices at such other
             places within or without the State of Missouri as the
             Board of Directors may from time to time determine or the
             activities of the corporation may require.

         Section 3. REGISTERED OFFICE.

             The registered office of the corporation shall be
             established and maintained at 120 S. Central, Suite 1400,
             St. Louis, Missouri, 63105.

     ARTICLE II - MEETING OF MEMBERS

         Section 1. ANNUAL MEETINGS.

             Annual meetings of members for the election of directors
             and for such other business as may be stated in the
             notice of the meeting, or as many properly come before
             the meeting, shall be held at such places, either within
             or without the State of Missouri, and at such times and
             dates as the Board of Directors, by resolution, shall
             determine and as set forth in the notice of the meeting.
             in the event the Board of Directors fails to so determine
             the time, date and place of the meeting, the annual
             meeting of members shall be held at the principal office
             of the corporation on the 1st day of August at 1 o'clock
             P.M. in each year.

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         Section 2. OTHER MEETINGS.

             Meetings of members for any purpose other than the
             election of directors may be held at such a time and
             place, within or without the State of Missouri, as shall
             be stated in the notice of the meeting.

         Section 3. VOTING.

             Each member entitled to vote in accordance with the terms
             and provisions of the Articles of Association and these
             Bylaws shall be entitled to one vote, in person or by
             proxy, but no proxy shall be voted after three years from
             its date unless such proxy provides for a longer period.
             Upon the demand of any member, the vote for directors and
             upon any question before the meeting shall be by ballot.
             All elections for directors shall be decided by plurality
             vote; all other questions shall be decided by majority
             vote, except as otherwise provided by the Articles of
             Association or the laws of the State of Missouri.

         Section 4. MEMBERSHIP.

             The officer who has charge of the membership ledger of
             the corporation shall at least ten days before each
             meeting of members prepare a complete alphabetically
             addressed list of the members entitled to vote at the
             ensuing election.  Said list shall be open to the
             examination of any member, for a period of at least 10
             days prior to the meeting, either at a place within the
             city where the meeting is to be held, which place shall
             be specified in the notice of the meeting, or, if not so
             specified, at the place where the meeting is to be held.
             The list shall be available for inspection at the
             meeting.

         Section 5. QUORUM.

             Except as otherwise required by law, by the Articles of
             Association, or by these Bylaws, the presence, in person
             or by proxy, of a majority of the members of the
             corporation entitled to vote thereat shall constitute a
             quorum at a meeting for the transaction of any business.

         Section 6. SPECIAL MEETINGS.

             Special meetings of the members for any purpose, unless
             otherwise prescribed by statute or by the Articles of
             Association, may be called by the Chairman of the Board
             and shall be called by the Chairman of the Board or by
             the secretary at the request of a majority of the
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             directors or 10 percent of the number of members entitled
             to vote.  Such request shall state the purpose of the
             proposed meeting.

         Section 7. NOTICE OF MEETINGS.

             Notice, stating the place, date, and time of the meeting,
             and the general nature of the business to be considered,
             shall be given to each member entitled to vote thereat at
             his address (electronic or otherwise), or shall be
             published in the corporate newsletter, not less than ten
             nor more than fifty days before the date of the meeting.

         Section 8. BUSINESS TRANSACTED.

             No business other than that stated in the notice shall be
             transacted at any meeting without the unanimous consent
             of all the members entitled to vote thereat.

         Section 9. ACTION WITHOUT MEETING.

             Except as otherwise provided by the Articles of
             Association, whenever the vote of members at a meeting
             thereof is required or permitted to be taken in
             connection with any corporate action by any provisions of
             the statutes of the Articles of Association or of these
             Bylaws, the meeting and vote of members may be dispensed
             with, if all the members who would have been entitled to
             vote upon the action if such meeting were held, shall
             consent (electronically or otherwise) to such corporate
             action being taken.

     ARTICLE III - DIRECTORS

         Section 1. NUMBER AND TERM.

             The number of directors shall be equal to the number of
             geographical areas known as zones in the list of systems
             published by the corporation, known as the IFNA or
             FidoNet nodelist, plus an additional 3 directors who
             shall be known as At-Large directors.  No Zone may have
             more than 3 directors representing it on the Board.  The
             Directors shall be elected at the annual meeting of
             members by the members of their respective Zones, with
             the exception of the At-Large Directors, who shall be
             elected by the membership as a whole.  Each director
             shall be elected to serve until his successor shall be
             elected and shall qualify.

         Section 2. RESIGNATIONS.

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             Any director, members of a committee, or other officer
             may resign at any time.  Such resignation shall take
             effect at the time specified, and if no time be
             specified, at the time of its receipt by the president or
             secretary.  The acceptance of a resignation shall not be
             necessary to make it effective.

         Section 3. VACANCIES.

             If the office of any director, member of a committee or
             other officer becomes vacant, the remaining directors in
             office, though less than a quorum by a majority vote, may
             appoint any qualified person to fill such vacancy, and to
             hold office for the unexpired term and until his
             successor shall be duly chosen.

         Section 4. REMOVAL.

             Any director or directors may be removed either for or
             without cause at any time by the affirmative vote of the
             members or holders of a majority of all the membership
             votes of those entitled to vote, at a special meeting of
             the members called for the purpose, and the vacancies
             thus created may be filled, at the meeting held for the
             purpose of removal, by the affirmative vote of the
             members or holders of a majority of all the membership
             votes of those entitled to vote.

         Section 5. INCREASE IN NUMBER.

             The number of directors may be increased by amendment of
             these Bylaws by the affirmative vote of a majority of the
             directors, though less than a quorum, by the affirmative
             vote of the majority of the members, at the annual
             meeting or by a special meeting called for that purpose,
             and by like vote the additional directors may be chosen
             at such meeting to hold office until the next annual
             election and until their successors are elected and
             qualify.

         Section 6. COMPENSATION.

             Directors shall not receive any stated salary for their
             services as directors or as members of committees, but by
             resolution of the Board a fixed fee and expenses of
             attendance may be allowed for attendance at each meeting.
             Nothing herein contained shall be construed to preclude
             any director from serving the corporation in any other
             capacity as an officer, agent or otherwise, and receiving
             compensation therefore.

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         Section 7. ACTION WITHOUT MEETING.

             Any action required or permitted to be taken at any
             meeting of the Board of Directors, or of any committee
             thereof, may be taken without a meeting, if prior to such
             action a written consent thereto is signed by all members
             of the Board, or of such committee as the case may be,
             and such written consent is filed with the minutes of
             proceedings of the board or committee.

     ARTICLE IV - OFFICERS

         Section 1. OFFICERS.

             The officers of the corporation shall consist of a
             Chairman of the Board of Directors, a president, a
             treasurer, a secretary, and an International Coordinator,
             and shall be elected by the Board of Directors and shall
             hold office until their successors are elected and
             qualified.  In addition, the Board of Directors may elect
             one or more vice-presidents and such assistant
             secretaries and assistant treasurers as it may deem
             proper.  None of the officers of the corporation need be
             directors.  The officers shall be elected at the first
             meeting of the Board of Directors after each annual
             meeting.  More than two offices may be held by the same
             person, except the offices of president and secretary,
             unless there is only one member.

         Section 2. OTHER OFFICERS AND AGENTS.

             The Board of Directors may appoint such officers and
             agents as it may deem advisable, who shall hold their
             offices for such terms and shall exercise such power and
             perform such duties as shall be determined from time to
             time by the Board of Directors.

         Section 3. CHAIRMAN.

             The Chairman of the Board of Directors, shall preside at
             all meetings of the Board of Directors, shall appoint the
             chairs of all standing committees, and he shall have and
             perform such other duties as from time to time may be
             assigned to him by the Board of Directors.

         Section 4. PRESIDENT.

             The President shall be the chief executive officer of the
             corporation and shall have the general powers and duties
             of supervision and management usually vested in the
             office of the president of a corporation.  He shall
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             preside at all meetings of the members if present
             thereat, and in the absence of the Chairman, at all
             meetings of the Board of Directors, and shall have
             general supervision, direction and control of the affairs
             of the corporation.  Except as the Board of Directors
             shall authorize the execution thereof in some manner, he
             shall execute bonds, mortgages, and other contracts in
             behalf of the corporation, and shall cause the seal to be
             affixed to any instrument requiring it and when so
             affixed the seal shall be attested by the signature of
             the secretary or treasurer or an assistant secretary or
             assistant treasurer.

         Section 5. VICE-PRESIDENT.

             Each vice-president shall have such powers and shall
             perform such duties as shall be assigned to him by the
             directors.

         Section 6. TREASURER.

             The treasurer shall have the custody of the corporate
             funds and securities and shall keep full and accurate
             account of receipts and disbursements in books belonging
             to the corporation.  He shall deposit all moneys and
             other valuables in the name and to the credit of the
             corporation in such depositories as may be designated by
             the Board of Directors.

             The treasurer shall disburse the funds of the corporation
             as may be ordered by the Board of Directors, or the
             president, taking proper vouchers for such disbursements.
             He shall render to the president and Board of Directors
             at the regular meetings of the Board of Directors, or
             whenever they may request it, an account of all his
             transactions as treasurer and of the financial condition
             of the corporation.  If required by the Board of
             Directors, he shall give the corporation a bond for the
             faithful discharge of his duties in such amount and with
             such surety as the Board shall prescribe.

         Section 7. SECRETARY.

             The secretary shall give, or cause to be given, notice of
             all meetings of members and directors, and all other
             notices required by law or by these Bylaws, and in case
             of his absence, or refusal or neglect to do so, any such
             notice may be given by any other person so directed by
             the president, or by the directors, or members, upon
             whose requisition the meeting is called as provided by
             these Bylaws.  He shall record all the proceedings of the
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             meetings of the corporation and of directors in a book to
             be kept for that purpose, and shall affix the seal to all
             instruments requiring it, when authorized by the
             directors or the president, and attest the same.

         Section 8. INTERNATIONAL COORDINATOR.

             The Board of Directors shall elect an International
             Coordinator to serve as the head of the nodelist
             administrative structure.  The International Coordinator
             shall be responsible for maintaining the technical
             integrity of the network and for publishing the list of
             nodes which bears the trademark of this corporation, and
             for establishing new zones in that nodelist at the
             direction of a majority vote of the Board of Directors.

         Section 9. ASSISTANT TREASURERS AND ASSISTANT SECRETARIES.

             Assistant treasurers and assistant secretaries, if any,
             shall have such powers and shall perform such duties as
             shall be assigned to them, respectively, by the
             directors.

     ARTICLE V - MEMBERSHIP

         Section 1. MEMBERSHIP

                 Any person who is the system operator in good
                 standing of a PUBLIC ACCESS NODE as listed in the
                 FidoNet nodelist shall be a member without making any
                 application or paying any dues, and shall have the
                 right to one vote.

     ARTICLE VI - PROHIBITION OF DIVIDENDS.

         Section 1. PROHIBITION OF DIVIDENDS.

             No part of the net earnings of the corporation shall
             inure to the benefit of, or be distributable to, as
             dividends or in any other manner, its members, directors,
             officers or other private persons, except that the
             corporation shall be authorized and empowered to pay
             reasonable compensation for services rendered and to make
             payments and distributions in furtherance of the purposes
             set forth in the Articles of Association.

             Further, upon the dissolution of the corporation, the
             Board of Directors shall, after paying or making
             provision for the payment of all of the liabilities of
             the corporation, dispose of all of the assets of the
             corporation exclusively for charitable, education,
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             religious, or scientific purposes as shall at the time
             qualify as an exempt organization or organizations under
             Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954
             (or the corresponding provisions of any future United
             States Law) as the Board of Directors shall determine.
             Any such assets not so disposed of shall be disposed of
             by the Court of Common Pleas of the County in which the
             principal office of the corporation is then located,
             exclusively for such purposes or to such organization or
             organizations, as said Court shall determine, which are
             organized and operated exclusively for such purposes.

     ARTICLE VII - CORPORATE SEAL.

         Section 1. SEAL.

             The corporate seal shall be circular in form and shall
             contain the name of the corporation, the year of its
             creation and the words "CORPORATE SEAL OF THE
             INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION.  " Said seal may be
             used by causing it or a facsimile thereof to be impressed
             or affixed or otherwise reproduced.

     ARTICLE VIII - FISCAL YEAR

         Section 1. FISCAL YEAR.

             The fiscal year of the corporation shall be determined by
             resolution of the Board of Directors.

     ARTICLE IX - EXECUTION OF CORPORATION INSTRUMENTS.

         Section 1. INSTRUMENTS.

             All checks, drafts, or other orders for the payment of
             money, notes or other evidences of indebtedness issued in
             the name of the corporation shall be signed by officer or
             officers, agent or agents of the corporation, and in such
             manner as shall be determined from time to time by
             resolution of the Board of Directors.

     ARTICLE X - NOTICE AND WAIVER OF NOTICE.

         Section 1. NOTICE.

             Whenever any notice is required by these Bylaws to be
             given, personal notice is not meant unless expressly
             stated, and any notice so required shall be deemed to be
             sufficient if given by depositing the same in the mail,
             postage prepaid, addressed to the person entitled thereto
             at his address as it appears on the records of the
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             corporation, or by the sending of electronic mail in the
             same fashion, or by the posting of such notice in the
             newsletter of the corporation.  Such notice shall be
             deemed to have been given on the day of such mailing or
             publishing of said notice.  Members not entitled to vote
             shall not be entitled to receive notice of any meetings,
             except as otherwise provided by statute.

         Section 2. WAIVER OF NOTICE.

             Whenever any notice whatever is required to be given
             under the provisions of any law, or under the provisions
             of the Certificate of Incorporation of the corporation or
             these Bylaws, a waiver thereof in writing signed by the
             person or persons entitled to said notice, whether before
             or after the time stated therein, shall be deemed proper
             notice.

     ARTICLE XI - AMENDMENTS.

         Section 1. AMENDMENTS.

             These Bylaws may be altered and repealed and Bylaws may
             be made at any annual meeting of the members or any
             special meeting thereof if notice thereof is contained in
             the notice of such special meeting, by the affirmative
             vote of a majority of the members entitled to vote
             thereat, or by the Board of Directors, at any regular
             meeting of the Board of Directors, or at any special
             meeting of the Board of Directors, if notice thereof is
             contained in the notice of such special meeting.

     ARTICLE XII - LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.

         Section 1. LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.

             The International Fidonet Association recognizes the need
             for and encourages the formation of locally based
             independent organizations for the furtherance of
             electronic communications at the Zone, Region, and Net
             levels.

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     IFNA Bylaws and Rules Committee
     Jason Steck, 1:104/424, Member
     Phil Buonomo, 1:107/583, Member
     John Roberts, 1:385/49, Chairman


              IFNA/FidoNet Policy v5 (Proposed)(Draft v0.20)
                              prepared by the
                        Bylaws and Rules Committee
                                  of the
                     International FidoNet Association

                             October 31, 1989

     I. PURPOSE

         This document prescribes the responsibilities of any given
         system to be listed in the IFNA nodelist, the
         responsibilities of coordinators at various levels within the
         network, and the requirements for ratification and future
         modification of this document and/or its appendices.

         There shall be no other mandatory requirements for FidoNet
         membership above and beyond those directly stipulated or for
         which specific allowance is made within this document and/or
         its appendices.

     II. GENERAL

         FidoNet is dedicated to the exchange of information among the
         general public, and as such no one may be denied a node
         address based on race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation,
         philosophy, software used, or affiliation with any other
         network.

         The usage of the personal pronouns "he" and "his" within this
         document shall be considered to be gender neutral and equally
         applicable to members of either sex.

         This document and its Appendices are prepared in English, and
         translation to other languages is expressly encouraged.  This
         is not to be construed as a direct endorsement of any given
         language as the official language of FidoNet.

     III. DEFINITIONS

         NODE:  The smallest subdivision of the network, defined as a
         single system operating within the network.  The
         responsibilities of a node are defined in the section NODE
         RESPONSIBILITIES within this document.

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         NET:  A group of nodes, usually established within a specific
         geographic area, associated with each other by choice for
         administrative purposes and to facilitate mail transfer.

         REGION:  A group of nets and nodes that are not part of any
         net, usually in a specific geographic area, associated with
         each other for administrative purposes.

         ZONE:  A group of regions, usually in a specific geographic
         area, associated with each other for administrative purposes
         and to facilitate mail transfer.

         SYSOP:  For the purpose of this document, the single
         individual with primary responsibility for the operation of
         any given node or nodes.

         COORDINATOR:  A sysop at any given level who is designated
         certain technical responsibilities commensurate to the
         administration of the level of which he is a part.  Specific
         responsibilities of coordinators at any given level are
         defined in the section COORDINATOR RESPONSIBILITIES within
         this document.

         NODELIST:  The listing of node information that reflects
         current addressing, routing, capability, compatibility, and
         other technical information pertaining to nodes within the
         network.  The nodelist is essentially the "phone book" that
         nodes use to communicate with each other.

         ZONE MAIL HOUR:  A one hour period of time set aside for and
         dedicated to the processing of mail within a given zone, as
         designated by the coordinator of that zone.  Specifically, a
         node must operate in a "mail only" mode, performing no other
         task other than the sending and receipt of mail during such a
         designated hour.

         LOCAL MAIL SCHEDULE(S):  Additional mail period(s) as may be
         necessary within any given local net for the processing and
         distribution of mail within that net, as designated by the
         coordinator of that net.

     IV. NODE RESPONSIBILITIES

         To obtain and retain a listing in the nodelist, the sysop of
         any NODE shall be responsible for:

         A.  Compliance with the minimum FidoNet mail session
             standards (at this time, somewhat loosely based on the
             FidoNet Technical Standards Committee recommendation FTS-
             0001) so as to be able to send and receive mail within
             the network.

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         B.  Adherence to mail hours and schedules, specifically that
             his node must properly observe zone mail hour as defined
             by the coordinator of the zone of which the node is a
             part, and any applicable mandatory local mail schedules
             as defined by any local policy or other supplement to
             this document.

         C.  Utilizing the most current nodelist available for the
             operation of his node.

     V. COORDINATOR RESPONSIBILITIES

         A.  The coordinator of a NET shall be responsible for:

             1.  Gathering, maintaining, and compiling the most
                 current information as reasonably possible concerning
                 the status of nodes within the net of which he is a
                 part, and forwarding such information to the
                 coordinator of the region of which such net is a part
                 in a timely manner to ensure its inclusion in the
                 nodelist.

             2.  The assignment of node addresses to individual nodes
                 within the net of which he is a part.

             3.  Ensuring the distribution of weekly nodelist updates
                 to the members of the net of which he is a part.

             4.  Ensuring the distribution of weekly issues of the
                 network newsletter to the members of the net of which
                 he is a part.

             5.  Forwarding of messages which are addressed to nodes
                 within the net of which he is a part in a timely
                 manner.

             6.  The establishment of Local Mail Schedules for all
                 nodes within the net of which he is a part, should
                 such be required for the efficient operation of the
                 net of which he is a part or the network as a whole.

             7.  Ensuring compliance with the technical provisions of
                 this document on the part of the nodes of the net of
                 which he is a part, including taking such
                 administrative action as may be necessary to correct
                 non-compliance.

         B.  The coordinator of a REGION shall be responsible for:

             1.  Gathering, maintaining, and compiling the most
                 current information as reasonably possible concerning
     FidoNews 6-45                Page 15                   6 Nov 1989


                 the status of nets and nodes that are not part of a
                 net within the region of which he is a part, and
                 forwarding such information to the coordinator of the
                 zone of which such region is a part in a timely
                 manner to ensure its inclusion in the nodelist.

             2.  The assignment of node addresses to nodes that are
                 not part of a net and the assignment of net numbers
                 from a pool provided by the zone coordinator of the
                 zone of which his region is a part to groups of nodes
                 that desire to form a net within the region of which
                 he is a part.

             3.  Ensuring the distribution of weekly nodelist updates
                 to coordinators of nets and nodes that are not part
                 of a net within the region of which he is a part.

             4.  Ensuring the distribution of weekly issues of the
                 network newsletter to the coordinators of nets and
                 nodes that are not part of a net within the region of
                 which he is a part.

             5.  Ensuring compliance with the technical provisions of
                 this document on the part of the net coordinators and
                 nodes that are not part of a net within the region of
                 which he is a part, including taking such
                 administrative action as may be necessary to correct
                 non-compliance.

         C.  The coordinator of a ZONE shall be responsible for:

             1.  Gathering, maintaining, and compiling the most
                 current information as reasonably possible concerning
                 the status of regions and listings for administrative
                 nodes within the zone of which he is a part, and
                 forwarding such information to the international
                 coordinator in a timely manner to ensure its
                 inclusion in the nodelist.

             2.  The assignment of region numbers to regions within
                 the zone of which he is a part.

             3.  Ensuring the distribution of weekly nodelist updates
                 to coordinators of regions within the zone of which
                 he is a part.

             4.  Ensuring the distribution of weekly issues of the
                 network newsletter to the coordinators of regions
                 within the zone of which he is a part.

             5.  Ensuring the establishment and operation of zonegate
     FidoNews 6-45                Page 16                   6 Nov 1989


                 systems within the zone of which he is a part as
                 necessary to facilitate the transfer of mail to and
                 from other zones.

             6.  Designating a Zone Mail Hour hour for all nodes
                 within the zone of which he is a part.

             7.  Assignment of a pool of net numbers for the use of
                 each regional coordinator within the zone of which he
                 is a part.

             8.  Ensuring compliance with the technical provisions of
                 this document on the part of the regional
                 coordinators within the zone of which he is a part,
                 including taking such administrative action as may be
                 necessary to correct non-compliance.

         D.  The INTERNATIONAL coordinator shall be responsible for:

             1.  Gathering, maintaining, and compiling the most
                 current information as reasonably possible concerning
                 the status of all zones of the network for inclusion
                 in the nodelist.

             2.  The assignment of zone numbers upon direction of the
                 IFNA Board of Directors.

             3.  Ensuring the distribution of weekly nodelist updates
                 to coordinators of all zones.

             4.  Ensuring the distribution of weekly issues of the
                 network newsletter to the coordinators of all zones.

             5.  Ensuring compliance with the technical provisions of
                 this document on the part of the zone coordinators,
                 including taking such administrative action as may be
                 necessary to correct non-compliance.

         [Note:  In the above sections, a coordinator at any level is
                 required to make sure that nodes and/or other
                 coordinators receive the named documents.  This
                 specifically includes the provision that he deliver
                 them directly, should that be necessary for such
                 assurance.]

     VI. RATIFICATION

         This document will be considered to be ratified and in effect
         upon passage in a general or special election by a simple
         majority of votes received from those eligible IFNA members
         voting in such election conducted by the IFNA Nominations and
     FidoNews 6-45                Page 17                   6 Nov 1989


         Elections Committee, in accordance with current standard
         procedures for the conduct of such elections.

         Should this document fail to be ratified, the most recent
         Policy document as validated by vote of the IFNA Board of
         Directors at the annual meeting shall be considered to be in
         effect.

     VII. MODIFICATION

         Any proposed modification to this document will be subject to
         the procedures designated in the RATIFICATION section of this
         document before becoming effective.  Any proposed
         modification must be submitted in final form, either written
         or electronically transmitted, to the IFNA Bylaws and Rules
         committee.  Proposals will be considered valid as a result of
         any of the following:

         A.  At the request of at least 25% of the coordinators of the
             network.

         B.  Upon petition from a minimum of 10% of those IFNA members
             who would be eligible to vote in an election to ratify
             such modifications, as designated in the RATIFICATION
             section of this document.

         C.  Upon the recommendation of and sponsorship by a member of
             the IFNA Bylaws and Rules committee.

         D.  Upon the recommendation of and sponsorship by a member of
             the IFNA Board of Directors.

     VIII. EMERGENCY CLAUSE

         Should any portion of this document come into conflict with
         federal, state, or local law or the equivalent thereof, that
         portion shall immediately be considered to have been revoked
         within the geographic area wherein it is in conflict, and the
         coordinator with primary responsibility for that area shall
         immediately bring the situation to the attention of the IFNA
         Bylaws and Rules committee and Board of Directors with
         sufficient detail and documentation to allow work to begin on
         a proposal for permanent modification.

     IX. SUPPLEMENTS

         This document may be supplemented by local policy at the
         Zone, Region, or Net level, such supplement being considered
         to be a legitimate extension of this document at the level
         and for the area to which such supplement pertains, in
         accordance with the following procedures:

     FidoNews 6-45                Page 18                   6 Nov 1989


         A.  Any such supplement or any part thereof may not rescind
             or relax any responsibility for compliance with any
             provision of this document without prior approval of both
             the IFNA Bylaws and Rules committee and the IFNA Board of
             Directors.

         B.  Any such supplement or any part thereof may only be
             considered to be ratified and in effect upon passage in a
             general or special election by a simple majority of votes
             received from those eligible IFNA members who are part of
             the area subject to coverage under such supplement voting
             in an election conducted in accordance with current
             standard procedures developed by the IFNA Nominations and
             Elections Committee.  Should ratification fail, the most
             recent supplement previously in effect shall be
             considered to remain in effect.

         C.  Any proposed modification to such supplement or any part
             thereof will be subject to the same ratification
             requirements as the supplement itself before becoming
             effective.

         D.  Proposals for the creation, modification, or removal of
             any such supplement or any part thereof will be
             considered valid as a result of any of the following:

             1.  As a proposal by the coordinator of the level for
                 which such supplement would be applicable.

             2.  Upon petition from a minimum of 25% of those sysops
                 of nodes which are part of the level for which such
                 supplement would be applicable.

     X. APPENDICES

         All current appendices to this document shall be published
         separately, and are included by reference as a legitimate
         part of this document by inclusion in the INDEX OF APPENDICES
         at the end of this section of this document with the
         ratification date shown.  All proposals for appendices shall
         be subject to the same ratification and modification
         procedures as required for this document.

                            INDEX OF APPENDICES
                            ===================

         APPENDIX                 SUBJECT                   DATED
         --------  -------------------------------------  ---------
         --------  -------------------------------------  ---------

             IFNA/FidoNet Policy version 5.0 (Proposed)(Draft)
     FidoNews 6-45                Page 19                   6 Nov 1989


                              Ratified (date)
                                   *end*

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 20                   6 Nov 1989


                     FIDOCON 90 -- WHERE'S IT GONNA BE?


     The Membership Services Committee, under the chairmanship of
     Jim Vaughan, has been charged with recommending a site to hold
     FidoCon in 1990.

     Would you like to host the next FidoCon in your city?  Here is
     your chance.  Send a proposal to the committee to be considered
     for the honor of hosting FidoCon 90.

     What do you need to do to host FidoCon in your city?  Planning
     an international conference requires a great deal of work on the
     part of the hosts.  A site must be selected with adequate
     meeting space, accessibility, reasonable price and 1001 other
     details.  To give you an idea of what needs to be done and to
     give the committee some information about your city, we need to
     have the following questionnaire filled out:

     LOCATION:

          1.   What is the mileage from the airport to the host hotel?

          2.   Is shuttle service furnished by the hotel available to
               and from the hotel and airport? If not, what is the
               cost?

          3.   Are there direct (no connections) flights from the top
               ten largest metropolitan areas to your airport? Is
               the airport served by International carriers?

     HOTEL FACILITIES:

          1.   Is there a large (150 person) conference room which
               will be available throughout the conference?

          2.   Are there at least three smaller conference rooms which
               will be available for meetings during the conference?
               (75, 50 plus board type rooms.)

          3.   Will there be display space for vendors?

          4.   Will there be a small private conference room available
               for the host and other committees?

          5.   Will  the hotel guarantee room rate,  not to exceed $80
               for double occupancy?

          6.   Will the host committee prepare a list including price
               ranges and bill of fare for all hotel restaurants in
               advance of the conference?

     FidoNews 6-45                Page 21                   6 Nov 1989


          7.   Will the hotel provide early committment on prices of
               banquets, receptions, coffee break service, and any
               other food and beverage service to the conference
               sessions?

          8.   Will the host committee be able to obtain corporate
               sponsors to help defray conference expenses?  Who are
               they?

          9.   Does the hotel have handicap facilities?

         10.   Is the hotel or convention center willing to provide
               help in the planning of the conference?

         11.   Will the hotel allow for special telephone
               connections? (For modems)

     LOCAL SUPPORT:

          1.   There must be an active committee consisting of at
               least five members in the host city at least nine
               months before the conference.  Members of this
               committee should be prepared to spend at least two
               hours per week in the early planning stages and at
               least 8-10 hours per week just before the conference.
               The local chair should work closely with the FidoCon
               committee chair by Net Mail, Snail, and voice. Please
               furnish the name of the host committee and the name and
               address of the host chairperson.

          2.   Sponsorship of the conference by a local user group
               would be a plus.  Please furnish the name of the
               sponsoring group, if any.

          3.   Will a list of nearby restaurants (all price ranges --
               including fast food) and local entertainment be
               prepared by the local committee?

          4.   Will maps of the area would be provided to attendees?

          5.   What activities for family members should will be
               planned by the local committee?

          6.   Will there be a software swap area set up with
               computers for people to trade disks?  Will any of them
               be equipped with a printer and/or modem? Will disk
               sales (at cost) be included?

          7.   Will there be conference souvenirs, including but not
               limited to T-shirts and hats, available throughout the
               conference?

     FidoNews 6-45                Page 22                   6 Nov 1989


          8.   Will a special rate on car rentals be available to
               FidoCon attendees?

     OTHER:

          1.   What other events would you suggest for attendees?

          2.   What are the features of your city that make it
               particularly desirable for hosting FidoCon?

     GENERAL COMMENTS: (To be filled in by the prospective hosts)

     Please give a lot of thought to the amount of time and money that
     will be involved in hosting FidoCon.  Then, write up your
     proposal and send it to us.  We will evaluate all proposals and
     make recommendations to the IFNA Board of Directors.

     Proposals can be sent by NetMail to 226/300, or by Snail to:

          Jim Vaughan
          3883 Sugarbush Blvd.
          Gahanna, OH 43230

     Cities outside the US are eligible, and are encouraged to apply.

     If you want to include any printed promotional materials from the
     hotel or other facility, forward five copies to the above
     address.

     PROPOSALS MUST BE RECEIVED BY NOVEMBER 30.
     =========================================

     Announcment of the committee's selection will be made in FidoNews
     649.  Hope to hear from you soon!

     Jim Vaughan

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 23                   6 Nov 1989


     Phil Linttell
     Fido 1:163/125

                          The IFNA Referendum:

                      Democracy or Discrimination?


     The IFNA Referendum has begun.  For the first time in the
     history of FidoNet, every Sysop is being permitted a vote on an
     important issue.

     Or are they?

     From the text of the International FidoNet Association Board of
     Directors resolution:

     [From FidoNews 6-35, "Editorial"]
         We, the representatives of the International FidoNet
         Association, have heard a cry for democracy in the
         administration of the network.  As IFNA is supposed to
         represent the interests of the sysops, and as such
         representation is deemed to have failed, be it hereby
         resolved that:

         Without a mandate from the sysops of FidoNet, IFNA has no
         purpose or reason for existence.

         THEREFORE, the board proposes the following action, of
         which failure to pass will mean the dissolution of IFNA:

         It is hereby resolved that a special election be held for
         consideration by the Sysops of FidoNet of the following:
     [End of excerpt]

     "...a special election be held for consideration by the
     Sysops of FidoNet..."

     It is truly commendable that IFNA is seeking it's mandate from
     the Sysops of FidoNet.  Especially when you consider that the
     resolution goes on to state:

         "In addition, it shall be made clear that approval must
         be gained from a majority of the eligible nodes in the
         nodelist in effect at the time of the election."

     In other words, IFNA is seeking it's mandate not from a majority
     of the votes cast, but from a majority of eligible voters; a
     pretty courageous (and somewhat questionable) referendum practice
     designed to ensure that the members of FidoNet really want IFNA.

     FidoNews 6-45                Page 24                   6 Nov 1989


     While the election might appear open to all FidoNet Sysops, in
     reality it is not.  The Nominations & Elections committee,
     chaired by Steve Bonine, has interpreted "eligible voters" not as
     all members of FidoNet (as defined by Policy), but as Sysops of
     "public-access" nodes:

     [From FidoNews 6-44, "Election Rules IFNA/FidoNet Referendum"]
          2.0  Eligibility.

          The sysop of each public-access node in the FidoNet
          nodelist issued on October 27 (NODELIST.300) is eligible
          to vote.
     [End of excerpt]

     According to the definition of "public-access" which appears in
     the same article, this specifically excludes operators of systems
     which appear in the FidoNet nodelist with a status of "Pvt"
     (private), "Hold", or "Down".

     A quick grep of NODELIST.307 (NODELIST.300 was updated before I
     had the change to write this article) indicates that there are
     308 private nodes, 55 nodes marked "Hold", and 116 nodes marked
     down.  Approximately 479 Sysops are not allowed to vote in this
     referendum.

     How can this denial of the rights of almost 500 FidoNet members
     to vote possibly be reconciled with IFNA's clear desire to make
     sure that the FidoNet really wants IFNA?  The answer is: it
     can't.

     I have been a member of FidoNet since February of this year. I
     have tried to become informed on the issues affecting our network
     and to form my own opinions.  As the result of an unfortunate
     incident (the circumstances of which are not relevant to this
     article) I had my node's status changed from public to private.

     While I understand that Policy does not require a private node to
     operate a FidoNet-compatible mailer during ZMH and restrict voice
     callers, Policy 3 encouraged private nodes to do so, and I do.  I
     respect the our net's local mail hour as well.

     My system has a number of users, although I restrict access to
     members of a local users' group on whose behalf I operate my
     system.

     I have read faithfully Policy documents, and every issue of
     FidoNews I have received.  I have voted in an my local net's
     election of an NC, and in my region's election of an RC; I fully
     expected to vote in the IFNA referendum.

     How then, am I (the operator of a private node) any less eligible
     to vote than the operator of a Mail Only or Public system?
     FidoNews 6-45                Page 25                   6 Nov 1989


     And why, if a Sysop of a node marked "Hold" or "Down" CAN vote,
     should they be prohibited from doing so?

     Further, no reference to "public-access" was made in the original
     draft of the rules for the referendum which was placed in
     FidoNews 6-41 for comment:

     [FidoNews 6-41, "Election Rules, FidoNet Plebescite, DRAFT"]
         2.0  Eligibility.

         The sysop of each node in the FidoNet nodelist issued on
         October 27 (NODELIST.300) is eligible to vote.
     [End of excerpt]

     No later draft was published in FidoNews.  In fact, the final
     rules were not published until the October 30 issue of FidoNews
     (FidoNews 6-44), three days AFTER NODEDIFF.300 had been
     distributed.  By the time the final rules were published, the
     vote was already in progress; providing no opportunity for an
     appeals process.

     While the denial of my right to vote is distressing, it is the
     irony of IFNA, which I have heard called "The voice of democracy
     in FidoNet", so blatantly discriminating against members of
     FidoNet that I find unacceptable.

     I recognize that it is too late to change the rules of this
     referendum.  However, it is my intention to submit a vote in this
     referendum despite the fact that it will not be counted. Other
     members of FidoNet will have to decide for themselves whether
     they will accept this brand of "democracy" in future elections
     and referendums.


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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 26                   6 Nov 1989


     Jim Deputy
     1:204/40

                            KinkNet Correction

     In  FidoNews 643, there is an article on the various  Zones  that
     are being claimed by several networks. Among those is Zone 69 for
     KinkNet.

     KinkNet does not, and has never claimed a Zone Number. KinkNet is
     a group of Adult Only Conferences that are distributed to several
     systems. The distribution is not limited to any network. In  fact
     for the most part, KinkNet is pretty much designed to be  Network
     and  Zone unaware, except as the mailer needs the information  to
     get it to the proper destination.

     In  conferences  where the Zone subjects were discussed,  I  have
     personally sent Mr. Whidden public denials of KinkNet's claim  to
     Zone 69. And this has been in more than one message.

     As  the Moderator, Co-ordinator, and Originating system  for  the
     KinkNet  Echos, I think it can be considered that I speak on  the
     Authority of "Head SOB What's In Charge of KinkNet."

     I may be reached via the following address's:

            FidoNet    1:204/40
            AlterNet   7:406/40 or 406/0
            EggNet    99:9403/1, 9403/0, 99/104 or 910/105

     Please note, there is no Zone 69 there.

     Jim Deputy
     aka Sir Dep

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 27                   6 Nov 1989


     GET OUT THE VOTE!

     Now is the time for all good men (and women) to come to the aid
     of our country, and our country is IFNA.

     Sounds kinda wishy-washy... but it does being me to a point.

     In FIDONET we are citizens of a 'democracy' that somehow works
     by and for itself.  This great network is held together by
     perpetuity and nothing else.  It's existance is an entity.

     IFNA was created by more than just a few people wanting to 'get
     organized'.  I was created because it was and is NEEDED.
     Fidonet will most likely succeed and grow without IFNA. Then
     again, will IFNA grow without the aid of a democratic heirarchy
     to absorb the blows delivered by the many unseen forces? I think
     not.

     IFNA, in it's best form, serves many purposes.  Thom Henderson
     said it best when he described to an inquirer, just what IFNA
     is and does.

     Quotations taken from FIDO643.NWS
       Thom Henderson
       "Open Response to Charlie Smith"

         "IFNA is often perceived by many people as being a  thing
          outside of FidoNet, when in fact it has always been very
          much a  part  of FidoNet.  It is and has always been the
          legal representation of FidoNet."

     ...Is and has always been the 'legal representation' of FidoNet.

     Hard to say it with enough emphasis.

         "FidoNet has no existance  under  the  laws  of the land.
          Does FidoNet exist?  Yes, of course it does, but how?...
          ...But the  laws recognize  none of  them. The laws (and
          the  government, and  the  IRS, and other organizations)
          recognize  only  people.  Either  flesh-and-blood people
          (born  of  men and  women, heir  to death and taxes), or
          "incorporated  people" (born of lawyers and accountants,
          potentially immortal, but still heir to taxes)."

     Those unseen forces that deliver the blows...

         "If  FidoNet  is  to  relate  to society around it in any
          meaningful way, it must have some corporate existance."

     Exactly.  It must have more than a bunch of sysops, each with
     their own STRONG opinion - each constantly battling over the same
     issues time and time again...  There must be a governing force -
     a referee recognized by a majority of the society as one who can
     weigh factors while wearing a blindfold.  (sound familiar?)

     FidoNews 6-45                Page 28                   6 Nov 1989


         "The whole point of IFNA is not to 'govern'  FidoNet, but
          to act as the sysops' vehicle for furthering FidoNet."

     Of all, this has to be the most profound truth. It is the ideal,
     the idea behind democracy!

     We need to INSURE that this democracy continues...  but even
     more, since there are some new people in the positions - new
     officers - in the last year, people (SYSOPS) like you and I
     that have seen the black eyes of fighting for what's right
     and against that which is wrong, we must VOTE to re-organize
     this already recognized entity of ours - called IFNA.

     We could rebuild from scratch, but that would take more time
     than most of us care to argue over.  If the referendum fails -
     I WILL be there to help rebuild, but I for one don't believe
     it is necessary.

     I see a new light coming from where there was once darkness.
     The leadership of IFNA has opened it's blackened eyes to look
     at itself and the tattered shape it has kept.  It now sees
     where a change needs to me made.  The FIDOCON 1989 was a CRUX
     in the history of this great entity.  It was at that meeting
     that the referendum was created - it was there that many eyes
     were opened.  Now that the final battle is being called  -  we
     MUST gather ourselves up and fight to rebuild the dream that
     almost fell to the ground.

     Lets not waste these hard learned lessons by starting over from
     scratch, instead lets VOW to rebuild a model representative
     structure - one our governments would envy.

     Take your ballots from FIDO644.NWS or NODEDIFF.300 and send them
     with your 'YES' Vote to your Net Coordinator  TODAY.

     Stand up and be counted!

     Kevin L. 'DOC=' McNeil
     1:128/45
     ** MEMBER of IFNA - and DAMNED PROUD OF IT!

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 29                   6 Nov 1989


       ZEAMON IMPROVES WILDCARD SUPPORT FOR DOS AND OS|2
     Command Line Program Applies Enhanced Pattern Matching
               to Common DOS and OS|2 Commands

     SoftCare Systems announces Zeamon, a software utility which
     provides programmers and power users with an extremely powerful
     wild card syntax for common DOS and OS|2 commands such as Copy,
     Dir, and Delete.  All Zeamon commands can combine enhanced
     wildcards with Boolean operators (and, or, not) allowing users to
     specify exactly which files to process.

     For example, a command such as "Copy everything except files with
     the extension .OBJ to A: ..." is easily accomplished by typing
     "Z copy *.* -*.OBJ A:".  The ability to include and exclude
     multiple files by using + and - Filters is the heart of Zeamon's
     power.  Also, the '*' wildcard character has been enhanced to
     mean "match zero or more characters" so that the expression *INV*
     matches any filename containing the string "INV", such as
     "INVJAN89", "JAN89INV", "89INVJAN", and "INV".

     Zeamon provides the complete command line control of your files
     that most users have only dreamed about.  It is more powerful,
     simpler to learn, and much faster to use than any DOS shell
     program on the market today.

     With Zeamon, all commands are enhanced to support:
          - Greatly improved wildcard matching facilities
          - Searching/processing multiple directories in one command
          - Searching multiple drives and directories in one command
          - Processing based on specific dates or date ranges
          - Processing based on the ARChive or Modified flag
          - Prompting for and optionally formatting new diskettes,
            when needed

     The Directory command can sort the listing in any order.  It
     always displays file attributes, the total number of bytes used
     by the selected files and the actual disk space occupied by the
     files, accounting for sector sizes.

     Zeamon adds four new commands to the operating system - Move,
     Update, List, and Execute.  The Move command will transfer files
     between disks or directories, deleting the original files.
     Update compares two disks or directories, replacing old files on
     the target with newer one from the source.  The List command
     generates formatted output of selected files which can be used
     for creating batch files.  Zeamon's Execute command will pass
     each files selected by the wildcards to the program of your
     choice.

     The product also comes with utilities to change file dates and
     times, file attributes, and a way to quickly find the amount of
     free space on all disks attached to a system.

     FidoNews 6-45                Page 30                   6 Nov 1989


     A full implementation of Zeamon's directory command is available
     fro free from many bulletin board systems, including SEAboard
     (201-473-1991 8-N-1).  Download ZDIR.ARC, which includes the
     executable program and full documentation.  The program is also
     requestable from the StarShip ][ bbs (201-935-1485 or node
     1:107/583@FidoNet, 520/583@AlterNet, 9:807/2@Pnet).

     Zeamon can be purchased from SoftCare Systems for $69 plus $5
     shipping and handling.  The product comes with free telephone
     support for registered users.

     SoftCare Systems, Inc.
     Ken Condal, President
     (201)473-2002

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 31                   6 Nov 1989


     =================================================================
                           LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
     =================================================================

     Doug Hall
     1:132/111

     Dear FidoNews Editor,

     You published my letter-to-the-editor in FidoNews 640 (page 15)
     suggesting revisions to this publication which would make it of
     greater use to run-of-the-mill sysops like myself. After it was
     published I received some unsolicited supportive netmail from
     around the net.  I haven't yet received any telling me that I
     have my head screwed on backward. (Copies of selected messages
     follow.)

     On the other hand I haven't received any response from you
     regarding the suggestions one way or the other.

     Here, in summary were my suggestions:

     1. Writers should never use abbreviations or jargon without
        explaining them the first time they are used.

     2. Stop repeating the same information every issue (IFNA Board
        of Directors, membership stuff, masthead details, calendar
        of events,etc.)

     3. Articles published should relate to the common network
        interests of sysops.

     4. Article writers should not be allowed to allude to
        communications outside of FidoNews itself without adequate
        explanation.

     5. Don't publish software upgrade information without
        explanation.

     Do these suggestions not seem sensible? Do you have any plans for
     revising FidoNews at all?  Your perspective would be of interest.
     Thanks for the consideration.


     Here are some of the messages I have received.

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     Doug,

     Just wanted to drop a note of support on your FidoNews article.
     Your view of FidoNews is so accurate I couldn't help but find
     myself chuckling while  reading it.  I certainly hope that
     someone is taking your suggestions to  heart as they are very
     valid.

     FidoNews 6-45                Page 32                   6 Nov 1989


     Thanks for your perspective,

     --David Bennett
       Sysop
       BenNETt (Kansas City Net) 280/307
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     Doug,

     I enjoyed reading your letter in FidoNews, at last something
     worth reading in that, um, magazine.  What has been your responce
     on what you said?  I too was going to write a letter similiar to
     that, but as of yet have not.  Well, again thanks, and let's hope
     that someone really listens to your letter - I know I did.

                                       Mike Krejci
                                        (1:152/205)

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     Howdy Doug!

     Well I must say that I thought your message in regards to What
     Fido News is all about was very worthwhile reading in this latest
     issue of Fido News!  I certainly hope that the editorial staff
     will take action on all of your suggestions!

     I have been with FidoNet for two years and, like you, fail to see
     anything worthwhile for the average FidoNet SysOp to be reading
     within these FidoNews releases.

     I was really impressed with the way you maintained your tact and
     diplomacy throughout the entire content of your message.  If I
     would have sent in something like that, I don't think it would
     have been quite as cohesive.... and would have ended up going
     into the Nul bucket.

     Well, I just wanted to personally send you a Thank You for the
     fine article that you submitted telling it like it really is with
     the Fido News.

     Robert Lindenberger
     "Eagle Patrol II BBS!" (147/28)
     Edmond, Oklahoma

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     Hello Doug Hall,

     I just dutifully unpacked the fido news. I read your article.

     Good lord you had a title, a subject, and there was even your
     name and address. I didn't even have to guess at what you were
     talking about. Some of those thingie-ma-bobs in the news letter I
     have never been able to figure out what the author was talking
     about.
     FidoNews 6-45                Page 33                   6 Nov 1989


     What are you trying to do, mess up the system?

     Bless your heart.

     I hope they pay attention to your words, but I doubt it.

     I would settle, as starters, for just removing all the pagination
     and pretty paper formatting. That would save a good 40% on the
     darn volume of that thing. You orta try reading that bugger with
     a 40 column machine. Luckily I don't have to try that any more.

     Anyway I agree with you whole heartily..

     Lewis Cosper
     The Mansion (17/47)
     Charleston OR

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     (Doug,)

     I applaud your suggestions.  I think Fidonews is crowded with
     non-essential and "useless" information, to the point that many
     people have not been reading it.  I for one, was unaware of the
     singular events that occurred at FidoCon this year because, among
     other things, I had dispensed with reading the FidoNews.  I think
     your suggestions, all of them, were very good, and hope that at
     least some form of all of them get incorporated into the
     editorial policy of FidoNews.

     One of the things that I would like to see is information about
     where the software that is listed as updated in each issue is
     obtained from in the event we can't find it within our network.
     I'd also like to see more articles on operating the software, and
     more complete descriptions of what is going on in FidoNet.  It
     would be interesting to have some sort of survey of how many
     people are actually involved in Networking as a Hobby, and some
     information of the other networks, both competing and cooperating
     sorts.

     I was also one of the far ends of a network for awhile before
     moving to the "big" city of Albuquerque.  I spent a lot of money
     on long-distance bills to collect what was often useless garbage
     about Non-Network stuff that got put in FidoNews.  My response
     was to finally tell my Network Coordinator (NC) that  I wished to
     be left off the distribution list for the News altogether.  Of
     course, then I ended up being left off the distribution list for
     everything,  and I had to make a special arrangement to get
     nodediff's from a friendly  sysop who would put stuff on hold for
     me to poll for it.  Still it was a  hassle, and all because I was
     tired of getting the FidoNews with a bunch of  useless stuff in
     it.
     FidoNews 6-45                Page 34                   6 Nov 1989


     Oh, well. . . .

     -- Greg Sittler
     -- Sysop 301/10
     -- My Word! of Albuquerque NM

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 35                   6 Nov 1989


     =================================================================
                              LATEST VERSIONS
     =================================================================

                          Latest Software Versions

                               MS-DOS Systems
                               --------------

                           Bulletin Board Software
     Name        Version    Name        Version    Name       Version

     Fido            12q+*  Phoenix         1.3    TBBS           2.1
     Lynx           1.30    QuickBBS       2.04    TComm/TCommNet 3.4
     Kitten         2.16*   RBBS          17.2B*   TPBoard        5.2
     Opus          1.03b+   RBBSmail       17.2*   Wildcat!     2.00P


     Network                Node List              Other
     Mailers     Version    Utilities   Version    Utilities  Version

     BinkleyTerm    2.30    EditNL         4.00    ARC           6.02
     D'Bridge       1.21    MakeNL         2.20    ARCA05        2.01*
     Dutchie       2.90C    ParseList      1.30    ARCmail        2.0
     FrontDoor       2.0    Prune          1.40    ConfMail      4.00
     PRENM          1.47    SysNL          2.65*   EMM           2.02
     SEAdog        4.51b    XlatList       2.90    GROUP         2.16
                            XlaxDiff       2.32    GUS          1.20M*
                            XlaxNode       2.32    LHARC         1.13
                                                   MSG            4.0*
                                                   MSGED         1.99
                                                   PK[UN]ZIP     1.01
                                                   QM             1.0
                                                   QSORT         4.03
                                                   StarLink      1.01*
                                                   TCOMMail       2.2
                                                   TMail         1.12*
                                                   TPBNetEd       3.2
                                                   UFGATE        1.03
                                                   XRS            3.0
                                                   ZmailQ        1.09

                                 Macintosh
                                 ---------

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     Red Ryder Host   v2.1b3   Macpoint     0.91*  MacArc        0.04
     Mansion            7.12   Tabby         2.1   ArcMac         1.3
     WWIV (Mac)          3.0                       StuffIt       1.51
     FidoNews 6-45                Page 36                   6 Nov 1989


                                                   TImport      1.331
                                                   TExport       1.32
                                                   Timestamp      1.6
                                                   Tset           1.3
                                                   Timestart      1.1
                                                   Tally          1.1
                                                   Mehitabel      1.2
                                                   Archie        1.60
                                                   Jennifer   0.25b2g
                                                   Numberizer    1.5c
                                                   MessageEdit    1.0
                                                   Mantissa       1.0
                                                   PreStamp      2.01
                                                   R.PreStamp    2.01
                                                   Saphire       2.1t
                                                   Epistle II    1.01
                                                   Import        2.52
                                                   Export        2.54
                                                   Sundial        2.1
                                                   AreaFix        1.1
                                                   Probe        0.052
                                                   Terminator     1.1
                                                   TMM           4.0b
                                                   UNZIP         1.01*
                                   Amiga
                                   -----

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailers     Other Utilities

     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     Paragon            1.00+* BinkleyTerm  1.00   AmigArc       0.23
                               TrapDoor     1.11*  booz          1.01
                               WelMat       0.21*  ConfMail      1.10*
                                                   ChameleonEdit 0.10
                                                   Lharc         0.50
                                                   ParseLst      1.30
                                                   PkAX          1.00
                                                   Pktfix        1.01*
                                                   RMB           1.30
                                                   UNzip         0.86
                                                   Zoo           2.00


                                    Atari ST
                                    --------

     Bulletin Board Software   Network Mailer      Other Utilities

     Name            Version   Name      Version   Name       Version

     FidoNews 6-45                Page 37                   6 Nov 1989


     FIDO/FoReM Door    1.1*   BinkleyTerm 1.03g   ConfMail      1.00
     Pandora BBS        2.41c* The BOX     1.10*   ParseList     1.30
     QuickBBS/ST        0.40*                      ARC           5.21
     GS Point           0.61                       TurboArc       1.1
                                                   LHARC         0.40
                                                   PKUNZIP       1.00
                                                   MSGED        1.96S
                                                   SRENUM         6.2
                                                   OMMM          1.40*
                                                   Timestop      1.00


     + Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software)
     * Recently changed

     Utility authors:  Please help  keep  this  list  up  to  date  by
     reporting  new  versions  to 1:1/1.  It is not our intent to list
     all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity.

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 38                   6 Nov 1989


     =================================================================
                                  NOTICES
     =================================================================

                          The Interrupt Stack


     11 Nov 1989
        A new area code forms in northern Illinois at 12:01 am.
        Chicago proper will remain area code 312; suburban areas
        formerly served with that code will become area code 708.

     17 Nov 1989
        George Stanislav becomes a United States citizen

     23 Nov 1989
        26th Anniversary of "Dr. Who" - and still going strong

     30 Dec 1989
        Telephone area codes (5, 3 and 0) are abolished in Hong Kong

     If you have something which you would like to see on this
     calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 39                   6 Nov 1989


             OFFICERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION

     Thom Henderson 1:107/528  Chairman of the Board
     Les Kooyman    1:204/501  President
     Fabian Gordon  1:107/323  Vice President
     Bill Bolton    3:3/0      Vice President-Technical Coordinator
     Kris Veitch    1:147/30   Secretary
     Kris Veitch    1:147/30   Treasurer


                      IFNA COMMITTEE AND BOARD CHAIRS

     Administration and Finance   *
     By-laws and Rules            John Roberts     1:385/49
     Executive Committee (Pres)   Les Kooyman      1:204/501
     International Affairs        *
     Membership Services          Jim Vaughan      1:226/300
     Nominations and Elections    Steve Bonine     1:1/0
     Public Affairs               David Drexler    1:147/30.20
     Publications                 Irene Henderson  1:107/9
     Technical Standards          Rick Moore       1:115/333
     Ethics                       *
     Security and Privacy         *
     Grievances                   *

         * Position in abeyance pending reorganization


                          IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

        DIVISION                               AT-LARGE
     10 Courtney Harris  1:102/732   Don Daniels      1:107/210
     11 John Rafuse      1:12/700    Phil Buonomo     1:107/583
     12 Bill Bolton      3:711/403   Mark Hawthorne   1:107/238
     13 Fabian Gordon    1:107/323   Tom Jennings     1:125/111
     14 Ken Kaplan       1:100/22    Irene Henderson  1:107/509
     15 Kevin McNeil     1:128/45    Steve Jordan     1:206/2871
     16 Ivan Schaffel    1:141/390   Robert Rudolph   1:261/628
     17 Kathi Crockett   1:134/30    Dave Melnik      1:107/233
     18 Andrew Adler     1:135/47    Jim Hruby        1:107/536
     19 Kris Veitch      1:147/30    Burt Juda        1:107/528
      2 Henk Wevers      2:500/1     Karl Schinke     1:107/516
      3 Matt Whelan      3:54/99     John Roberts     1:147/14

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     FidoNews 6-45                Page 40                   6 Nov 1989


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            Membership for the International FidoNet Association

     Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that
     pays  a  specified  annual   membership  fee.   IFNA  serves  the
     international  FidoNet-compatible  electronic  mail  community to
     increase worldwide communications.

     Member Name _______________________________  Date _______________
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     Your Special Interests __________________________________________
     _________________________________________________________________
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     In what areas would you be willing to help in FidoNet? __________
     _________________________________________________________________
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     Send this membership form and a check or money order for $25 in
     US Funds to:
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     Thank you for your membership!  Your participation will help to
     insure the future of FidoNet.

     Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization
     and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the
     membership in January 1987.  The second elected Board of Directors
     was filled in August 1988.  The IFNA Echomail Conference has been
     established on FidoNet to assist the Board.  We welcome your
     input to this Conference.

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