F I D O  N E W S --         |        Vol. 8 No. 33 (26 August 1991)
  The newsletter of the     |
  FidoNet BBS community     |        Published by:
          _                 |
         /  \               |       "FidoNews" BBS
        /|oo \              |          (415)-863-2739
       (_|  /_)             |          FidoNet 1:1/1
        _`@/_ \    _        |          Internet: 
       |     | \   \\       |           fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org
       | (*) |  \   ))      |
       |__U__| /  \//       |        Editors:
        _//|| _\   /        |          Tom Jennings
       (_/(_|(____/         |          Tim Pozar
             (jm)           |
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Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international 
amateur network. Copyright 1991, Fido Software. All rights reserved. 
Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes 
only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews.

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                          Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL  .....................................................  1
   Editorial: See you at FidoCon '91!  ............................  1
2. FIDONET NEWS  ..................................................  2
   (No FidoNetNews this week)  ....................................  2
3. ARTICLES  ......................................................  3
   FNews Version Notice  ..........................................  3
   Coventry  ......................................................  3
   THE INFORMATION CENTER 212 346 1289 1200/2400  .................  4
   Another Suggestion about Reducing the Size of the Nodelist  ....  4
4. RANTS AND FLAMES  ..............................................  6
5. CLASSIFIEDS  ...................................................  7
6. NOTICES  .......................................................  8
   The Interrupt Stack  ...........................................  8
7. LATEST VERSIONS  ...............................................  9
   Latest Greatest Software Versions  .............................  9
FidoNews 8-33                  Page 1                      26 Aug 1991


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                              EDITORIAL
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Editorial: See you at FidoCon '91!
Tom Jennings

This is a special, truncated FidoNews, published on Wednesday, instead
of Sunday, since the entire editorial staff (doesn't that sound officious?)
is off to FidoCon in about seven hours. Tim Pozar and I will be driving
out in my ancient Rambler, searching out LPG sources along the way (it's
not so bad, actually, and I just did this very thing only a few weeks ago).

ANYWAYS -- to reiterate something I mentioned weeks ago -- FidoNews needs
your writeups on FidoCon. If you are attending, please if you can bear it,
write about what you see -- sessions attended, rumors heard, decisions
made, products seen, fights, events like the annual hard-disk toss (it gets
easier and easier every year... in 1980 it would have been Shugart 14"
fixed Winchesters... this year it's probably a 2.5" somethingorother).
Chances are, if you sat through the whole thing it's probably of
excuciating interest to someone else. Tell the world! (Well, our corner of
it.)

Read ARTSPEC.DOC, it's not very demanding, and mail 'em in! Bye!


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FidoNews 8-33                  Page 2                      26 Aug 1991


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                             FIDONET NEWS
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FidoNetNews -- a weekly section devoted to technical and factual
issues within the FidoNet -- FidoNet Technical Standards Committee
reports, *C reports, information on FidoNet standards documents
and the like.

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There were no FidoNetNews submissions this week. Tune again in
next week!

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FidoNews 8-33                  Page 3                      26 Aug 1991


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                               ARTICLES
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By David French, 1:103/950
FidoNews Version List Notification...

It has been brought to my attention in some of the Fido Echos and in
NetMail that the FidoNews Version List has grown to a large size.
That's the main reason Tom put the job up for volunteers.  I was
picked from the "hat," so to say...<g>

A couple of alternatives I have had suggested to me have been...

A) Split the List.  Publish one or two system lists a week,
   alternating.

B) Delete old listings.

Until the end of September I an soliciting for ideas on how to handle
consolidating the Version List.  At that time I will make a decision
and the September 30 FidoNews will show the results.  Please direct
all suggestions to 1:103/950 via NetMail.

It has also been pointed out that some of the software listed is not
really easy to find.  I would like to implement a rotating list of
Main Support Boards for Software(e.g. RA 1:1/120, Binkley 1:1/102,
etc.)   This would take up a bit of space, but it would also help
the new Sysop in finding some of the hard to get items.

The details still need to be worked out and suggestions are welcome.

--dave

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Coventry

Jeffrey Harrington
Coventry Systems
1:281/60

     If your writings don't fit into FIDONEWS, then maybe
COVENTRY is your answer!!  Coventry is dicated to allowing
any person, writier, poet, journalist, ect., a place to
express themselves.  Science-Fiction, Fantasy, Romance,
Fiction, Non-Fiction, or anything.  How-to-articles,
Household hints, Car repair, anything.  If you want a to
see your works published then send them to us.

FidoNews 8-33                  Page 4                      26 Aug 1991


     COVENTRY will put it's first issue out on the First
Friday in OCTOBER.  So this gives you plenty of time to
work on them.

GUIDELINES-  See FIDONEWS Submission Guidelines, if you
have questions after that then NETMAIL to me at 1:281/60.


Jeffrey Harrington

PS..  LET'S ALL HELP TAKE A BITE OUT OF THE NODELIST BY
USING HUB ROUTING, AND KEEP IT DOWN TO A REASONABLE SIZE.


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Pace University is running a bulletin board for students,
potential students and the general public. The BBS software
being using is TRITEL, with SEAdog as a front end. A MAXUM
3016D computer is acting as the host with 8 mb of memory.
A total of 252 mb's assures ample storage.

One of the unique features of this system is the fact that
callers may request catalogs and class information about
course being given at Pace, simply by filling out a short
questionnaire on-line. First time callers have access to
the questionnaire, so there is NO delay in asking for
information.

In addition, THE INFORMATION CENTER (TM) has a very large
selection of shareware from ASP authors, a complete Netware
386 file library and over fifteen doors. As a courtesy to
the author of TRITEL, all of the files needed to run this
very nice bulletin board are kept on-line for downloads.

YOU are welcome to call (212) 346-1289 from 7 a.m. to
3 a.m.(EASTERN TIME), 7 days a week. TRITEL is a complete
BBS with a fantastic user interface that is easy to use.
TRITEL has Zmodem built in so file transfers are efficient.

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by Danny Mingle @ 1:116/9
Another Suggestion about Reducing the Size of the Nodelist



A recent topic of discussion in FidoNews has concerned how to make
the nodelist smaller.

FidoNews 8-33                  Page 5                      26 Aug 1991


I propose changing the baud rate, CM, MO, LO, V21, V22, V29, V32,
V32b, V33, V34, V42, V42b, MNP, H96, HST, MAX, PEP, CSP, XA, XB, XC,
XP, XR, XW, and XX flags to one-digit codes beginning with "1" in
each of their fields.

For example, in the Special Operating Conditions field,
"CM" would become "1" (without the quotations, of course)
"MO" would become "2"
"LO" would become "3"

and in the Modem Capabilities field,
"V21" would become "1"
"V22" would become "2"
.
.
.
"MNP" would become "A"
"H96" would become "B"
etc. etc.


I hope this clearly demonstrates what I mean about how the
numbering would start "with 1 in each of their individual fields".


These changes would be short and simple, and so is this article.  If
you send netmail, I will attempt to reply but cannot promise that you
will receive it.

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FidoNews 8-33                  Page 6                      26 Aug 1991


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                           RANTS AND FLAMES
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            _(*#$_(*@#(*     (*^$+)#(%&+|      #$)%(&*#_$   @_#(  @$
       ^@#+)(#&%$*+)$%&*+$*%&#@(@#_|)*%|)#%&)#*%&+(@#&*_+(@#*^&@###
   *&#_($*&#$_(*#&$_(#*$&$ _(#$*#$+)#($&*+#)$            &#+$*&#
  ()*&#$_(&^#$_(#*$_#($^&#_$(^&#_$(&^#$_(&#^  damn right   _(#^&$_(#^&
 $*&#$_+(*             #)$&(%($%+)($%*+$)%($*   it's ugly   _#&%^#  &
#($_*#$_   FidoNet        (*$&%_@#_(*&@#_(@*#&_           @#_(*&@#_(*
)*&#$           Flames        *^$+)#(%  (not for the timid) @_#(
(*#$_(*^@#+)             and     #_|)*%         &+(@#&*_+(@#*^&@###
(#$*&#_($*&#$_(*#&$_(#*                   Rants    *&+#$*&#+$*&#
   )*&#$_(a regular feature)^&#_$(&^#$_              $^&#$_(#^
        (*^#$_*#^&$)*#&$^%)#*$&^_#($*^&#_($   Section   #&%^_
       _(*#&$_(#*   #($*&   #$*   _(*&@#_(@*#           *&@#_(*&
                                        )&*+_)*&+)*&+))&*(*&
                                               (*&_(*&_(*&



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FidoNews 8-33                  Page 7                      26 Aug 1991


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                             CLASSIFIEDS
======================================================================

ADVERTISEMENT POLICY: Submissions must be 20 lines or less each,
maximum two ads per advertiser, 70 characters per line maximum. No
control codes except CR and LF. (Refer to contact info at the end of
this newsletter for details.)

Please notify us if you have any trouble with an advertiser. FidoNews
does not endorse any products or services advertised here.


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FidoNews 8-33                  Page 8                      26 Aug 1991


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                               NOTICES
======================================================================

The Interrupt Stack


 8 Sep 1991
 7 Oct 1991
Area code 415 fragments. Alameda and Contra Costa Counties will begin
using area code 510. This includes Oakland, Concord, Berkeley and
Hayward. San Francisco, San Mateo, Marin, parts of Santa Clara County,
and the San Francisco Bay Islands will retain area code 415.

 1 Nov 1991
Area code 301 will split. Area code 410 will consist of the
northeastern part of Maryland, as well as the eastern shore. This will
include Baltimore and the surrounding area. Area 301 will include
southern and western parts of the state, including the areas around
Washington DC. Area 410 phones will answer to calls to area 301 until
November, 1992.

 1 Feb 1992
Area code 213 fragments. Western, coastal, southern and eastern
portions of Los Angeles County will begin using area code 310. This
includes Los Angeles International Airport, West Los Angeles, San
Pedro and Whittier. Downtown Los Angeles and surrounding communities
(such as Hollywood and Montebello) will retain area code 213.

 1 Dec 1993
Tenth anniversary of Fido Version 1 release.

 5 Jun 1997
David Dodell's 40th Birthday


If you have something which you would like to see on this calendar,
please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1.

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FidoNews 8-33                  Page 9                      26 Aug 1991


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                           LATEST VERSIONS
======================================================================

Latest Greatest Software Versions
08/01/91

                         MS-DOS Systems
                         --------------

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Utilities
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
DMG             2.93     BinkleyTerm     2.40     ARCAsim         2.30
Fido/FidoNet   12.21+    D'Bridge        1.30     ARCmail         2.07
Genesis Deluxe   3.1*    Dutchie        2.90c     ConfMail        4.00
GSBBS           3.02     FrontDoor       2.00     Crossnet         1.5
Kitten          2.16     InterMail       2.01*    DOMAIN          1.42
Lynx            1.30     PRENM           1.47     EEngine         0.30*
Maximus         1.02     SEAdog          4.60*    EMM             2.02
Opus            1.70+*   TIMS       1.0(Mod8)     4Dog/4DMatrix   1.18
PCBoard        14.5a                              FNPGate         2.70
Phoenix          1.3                              Gmail           2.05
QuickBBS        2.66                              GROUP           2.16
RBBS           17.3b     NodeList Utilities       GUS             1.30
RBBSmail       17.3b     Name         Version     HeadEdit        1.18
RemoteAccess    1.01     --------------------     IMAIL           1.10
SLBBS          2.15b*    EditNL          4.00     InterPCB        1.31
Socrates        1.10     MakeNL          2.31     MSG              4.1
SuperBBS        1.10     Parselst        1.30     MSGED           2.06
TAG             2.5g     Prune           1.40     MsgMstr         1.21*
TBBS             2.1     SysNL           3.14     MSGTOSS          1.3
TComm/TCommNet   3.4     XlatList        2.90     Oliver          1.0a
Telegard         2.5     XlaxDiff        2.51*    PolyXarc        2.1a*
TPBoard          6.1     XlaxNode        2.51*    QM               1.0
Wildcat!        2.55                              QSort           4.04
WWIV            4.12                              ScanToss        1.28
XBBS            1.17                              Sirius          1.0x
                                                  SLMAIL          1.36
                                                  StarLink        1.01
Compression                                       TagMail         2.41
Utilities                                         TCOMMail         2.2
Name         Version                              Telemail        1.27
--------------------                              TMail           1.21
ARC             7.00                              TPBNetEd         3.2
ARJ             2.10                              Tosscan         1.00
HYPER           2.50                              UFGATE          1.03
LHA             2.12                              XRS             4.50*
LHARC          1.13c                              XST             2.3e
PAK             2.51                              ZmailH         1.16a*
PKPak           3.61
PKZip           1.10

FidoNews 8-33                  Page 10                     26 Aug 1991


                         OS/2 Systems
                         ------------

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Utilities
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
Maximus-CBCS    1.02     BinkleyTerm     2.40     ARC2            6.00
                                                  ConfMail        4.00
                                                  EchoStat         6.0
                                                  LH2             0.50
                                                  MsgEd           2.06
                                                  MsgLink         1.0c
                                                  MsgNum          4.14
                                                  oMMM            1.52
                                                  Omail            3.1
                                                  Parselst        1.32
                                                  PKZip           1.02
                                                  PolyXarc        2.1a*
                                                  QSort            2.1
                                                  Raid             1.0
                                                  Remapper         1.2
                                                  Tick             2.0
                                                  VPurge          2.07


                         Xenix/Unix 386
                         --------------

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Utilities
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
                         BinkleyTerm    2.32b     ARC             5.21
                                                  C-LHARC         1.00
                                                  MsgEd           2.06
 |Contact:  Jon Hogan-Duran 3:711/909,|           MSGLNK          1.01
 |Willy Paine 1:343/12 or Eddy van Loo|           oMMM            1.42
 |2:285/406                           |           Omail           1.00
                                                  Parselst        1.32
                                                  Unzip           3.10
                                                  Vpurge          4.08
                                                  Zoo             2.01


                         Apple II
                         --------

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Utilities
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
DDBBS +          7.4*    Fruity Dog       2.0*    deARC2e          2.1
GBBS Pro         2.1                              ProSel          8.69*
FidoNews 8-33                  Page 11                     26 Aug 1991


                                                  ShrinkIt        3.23
                                                  ShrinkIt GS     1.04


                         Apple CP/M
                         ----------

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Utilities
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
Daisy             2j     Daisy Mailer    0.38     Filer            2-D
                                                  MsgUtil          2.5
                                                  Nodecomp        0.37
                                                  PackUser           4
                                                  UNARC.COM       1.20


                         Macintosh
                         ---------

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Software
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
FBBS            0.91     Copernicus       1.0     ArcMac           1.3
Hermes           1.5     Tabby            2.2     AreaFix          1.6
Mansion         7.15                              Compact Pro     1.30
Precision Sys. 0.95b*                             Eventmeister     1.0
Red Ryder Host   2.1                              Export          3.21
TeleFinder                                        Import           3.2
  Host       2.12T10                              LHARC           0.41
                                                  MacArc          0.04
                                                  Mantissa        3.21
Point System                                      Mehitable        2.0
Software                                          OriginatorII     2.0
Name         Version                              PreStamp         3.2
--------------------                              StuffIt Classic  1.6
Copernicus       1.0                              SunDial          3.2
CounterPoint    1.09                              TExport         1.92
                                                  Timestamp        1.6
                                                  TImport         1.92
                                                  Tset             1.3
                                                  TSort            1.0
                                                  UNZIP          1.02c
                                                  Zenith           1.5
                                                  Zip Extract     0.10


                         Amiga
                         -----

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Software
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
Falcon CBBS     0.45     BinkleyTerm     1.00     AmigArc         0.23
Paragon        2.082+    TrapDoor        1.50     AReceipt         1.5
TransAmiga      1.07     WelMat          0.44     booz            1.01
FidoNews 8-33                  Page 12                     26 Aug 1991


                                                  ChameleonEdit   0.10
                                                  ConfMail        1.12
                                                  ElectricHerald  1.66
                                                  LHARC           1.30
                                                  Login           0.18
                                                  MessageFilter   1.52
                                                  oMMM           1.49b
                                                  ParseLst        1.64
                                                  PkAX            1.00
                                                  PolyxAmy        2.02
                                                  RMB             1.30
                                                  Roof           44.03
                                                  RoboWriter      1.02
                                                  Rsh             4.06
                                                  Skyparse        2.30
                                                  Tick            0.75
                                                  TrapList        1.12
                                                  UNZIP           1.31
                                                  Yuck!           1.61
                                                  Zippy (Unzip)   1.25
                                                  Zoo             2.01


                         Atari ST/TT
                         -----------

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Utilities
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
FIDOdoor/ST    2.4.0*    BinkleyTerm    2.40l     BINK2TB         1.00
GS Point        0.61     The BOX         1.20     ComScan         1.02
LED ST          1.00                              ConfMail        4.03
MSGED          1.96s                              EchoFix         1.20
                                                  FastPack        1.20
                                                  FDrenum        2.4.0*
Compression                                       FiFo            2.1n*
Utilities                                         Import          1.14
Name         Version                              oMMM            1.40
--------------------                              Pack            1.00
ARC             6.02                              Parselst        1.30
LHARC           1.32*                             sTICK/Hatch     5.50
PKZip           1.10                              TB2BINK         1.00
STZIP           0.80*                             Trenum          0.10
                                                  Xlist           1.12


                         Archimedes
                         ----------

BBS Software             Network Mailers          Other Utilities
Name         Version     Name         Version     Name         Version
--------------------     --------------------     --------------------
ARCbbs          1.44     BinkleyTerm     2.03     ARC             1.03
FidoNews 8-33                  Page 13                     26 Aug 1991


                                                  BatchPacker     1.00
                                                  Parselst        1.30
                                                  !Spark         2.00d
                                                  Unzip          2.1TH

--  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --
Key:  + - Netmail Capable (Does Not require Additional Mailer Software)
      * - Recently Updated Version
--  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --  --

Utility Authors:  Please help keep this list up to date by reporting all
                  new versions to 1:103/950.

Note:  It is not our intent to list all utilities here, only those which
       verge on necessity.  If you want it updated in the next FidoNews,
       get it to me by Thursday evening.

--David French, 1:103/950

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FidoNews 8-33                  Page 14                     26 Aug 1991


------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ----------------

Editors: Tom Jennings, Tim Pozar
Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Periello
Special thanks to Ken Kaplan, 1:100/22, aka Fido #22

"FidoNews" BBS
    FidoNet  1:1/1
    Internet  fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org
    BBS  (415)-863-2739  (9600 HST/V32)

(Postal Service mailing address)
    FidoNews
    Box 77731
    San Francisco
    CA 94107 USA

Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international
amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual
articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The
contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the
rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those
of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews.




FidoNews is copyright 1991 Fido Software. All rights reserved.
Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes
only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews (we're
easy).



OBTAINING COPIES: FidoNews in electronic form may be obtained from
the FidoNews BBS via manual download or Wazoo FileRequest, or from
various sites in the FidoNet and via uucp. PRINTED COPIES mailed
may be obtained from Fido Software for $5.00US each PostPaid First
Class within North America, or $7.00US elsewhere, mailed Air Mail.
(US funds drawn upon a US bank only.)

Periodic subscriptions are not available at this time; if enough
people request it I will implement it.


SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable
from 1:1/1 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC".


FidoNews 8-33                  Page 15                     26 Aug 1991


"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
trademarks of Tom Jennings of Fido Software, Box 77731, San Francisco
CA 94107, USA and are used with permission.

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