     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 18, Number 53             31 Dec 2001 
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            Copyright 2001 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ]  .....................................  1
     2. [ INSIDE ]  ...............................................  2
        The Fidonews at a Glance  .................................  2
     3. [ GENERAL ARTICLES ]  .....................................  3
        Catcalls from the Cheap Seats  ............................  3
        Most Important Body Part....Not just the Heart  ...........  5
        Flickering Light  .........................................  6
     4. [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ]  ......................  8
        Tater  People  ............................................  8
     5. [ HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN ]  .................................  9
        The Meaning of FidoNet – The Miracle of Hatching: Seenb  ..  9
     6. [ COMIX IN ASCII ]  ....................................... 12
        P4.07  .................................................... 12
     7. [ SPECIAL INTEREST ]  ..................................... 13
        L.O.R.D Tournament  ....................................... 13
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 13
     8. [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ]  ............. 15
        Fidonet Software List  .................................... 15
     9. [ JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET ]  ...................... 19
        Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 19
     10. [ FIDONEWS INFORMATION ]  ................................ 25
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 25
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 26
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                           [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ]
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     "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance."

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                                [ INSIDE ]
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                            The Fidonews at a Glance

      In the "General Articles section, we are once again joined by Luke
     Kolin with a "compliment?" on the Fidonews and it's Editor as well as
     his look at last week's article(s). See "Catcalls from the Cheap
     Seats".

      Warren Bonner submits "Most Important Body Part....Not just the
     Heart". A look at friendship.

      Andrea Santos visits us with "Flickering Light". A look at the User's
     role in Fidonet and how that is affected by the Nodes in Fidonet.

      Warren Bonner's Column this week is "Tater People". It qualifies more
     as a "Humor" article, but some of it rings true in Fidonet as well.

      The "Humor in a Fido Vein" this week is another installment by Dale
     Ross entitled "The Meaning of FidoNet – The Miracle of Hatching:
     Seenbys: The Z1EC"

     The Comix this week seems intended to make a point.

      In the "Special Interest" area, Shannon Talley announces a new
     L.O.R.D. Tournament"

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                           [ GENERAL ARTICLES ]
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                         Catcalls from the Cheap Seats
                                 By Luke Kolin

     Sir:

     Let me take a moment to commend you on your fine publication. Despite
     its advanced age, you've managed to in your Christmas issue rekindle
     the fading embers of vicious Fido warfare that have slowly been fading
     away through inactivity and entropy. A finer gift for Christmas I
     could not imagine.

     I must now confess that your article on the potential problems of
     eliminating geogrpahic restrictions leaves me somewhat confused.
     Usually, I can determine the "serious" articles in FidoNews if they
     make me laugh - and the comedies by the glazing over of my eyes six
     lines in as I frantically search for my Page Down key. Your article I
     cannot easily place. Perhaps you are following my earlier suggestion
     for "retro night" in the Snooze, by reprinting one of the countless
     "Is the Nodelist getting too big?" articles. I recall that this
     spurious concern was used by numerous elf-lord co-ordinators in their
     ruthless zeal to trim out all duplicate and unncessary nodes from the
     nodelist in times past. Considering their unimaginable success, based
     on the relentless decline in the nodelist, I am puzzled as to why this
     is still a concern.

     Of course, you may be serious. Getting nodes listed in every single
     net, region and zone would be an excellent way for FidoNet to confront
     and reverse its numbers problem. It's not a solution that I had
     previously thought of, but it is remarkable in its simplicity and ease
     of accomplishment. I am unfamiliar with the technology (having left
     FidoNet when there was a limit of 16 or so AKA addresses in an EMSI
     header) but I am sure the fine folks who wrote the Y2K patches for
     Fido 12w could be called upon again to raise this arbitrary limit.

     Then again, sir, I feel your article may be satire or farce. The part
     where you attempt to inject some "reality" into the argument by
     suggesting that there was a vast unsated demand for additional FidoNet
     addresses only kept in check by the continual vigilance of the
     co-odinator structure brightened up an otherwise frigid December day.
     Coupled with your horrified surprise that groups of like-minded
     individuals may choose to associate together in their own
     organisational group, a strong case may be made for recategorising
     your aticle in the 'Jokes in ASCII' section. Let me draw your
     attention to the circa 1991 saga of Nets 163 and 243 in the Ottawa
     area, two geographically overlapping networks whose fluid membership
     was entirely composed on sysops annoyed at the other network's NC.
     Toronto was but a political backwater at the time, but within four
     years I am proud to say that our political consciousness had reached
     Ottawa's level and we had our own overlapping network (2424), which
     was able to encroach on the geographic area of no fewer than four nets
     in Region 12.

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     I would be remiss if I did not seek to horrify Philip Lozier by
     recounting a vignette from my vacation in Hawaii several months ago.
     At the time, a colleague of mine called me using a cellular phone (in
     the 703 area code) from Manhattan (in the 212 area code). He called my
     cell phone (in the 404 area code, but I really live in the 770 and 678
     area codes) when I was on the beach in Maui (God only knows what area
     code). Let me allow Phil to take some consolation by telling him that
     this geographic exemption was only temporary, and by no means was I
     able to make it permanent. You may not want to publish the fact that
     this call did not cost either one of us a penny, as I am sure it would
     push Philip over the edge and cause him to picket the FCC in
     Washington, protesting the continual introduction of overlapping area
     codes in major metropolitan areas and demanding a federal law
     prohibiting the transportation of cellular phones across state lines
     or area code boundaries.

     Of course, this behavior is entirely within character for FidoNet. The
     deep freeze I remarked about a few weeks ago appears not to be limited
     to Region 12, as Philip seems blissfully unaware of developments in
     the telecoms industry that make it cheaper to call across the country
     (or internationally, in some cases) than into the next county.
     Nevertheless, it seems important for FidoNet to maintan an
     organisational structure designed in the early 1980s for the simple
     reason that Ditto-heads like Philip would be unable to decide what to
     do each morning without the comforting blanket of the old world, the
     old rules and the old FidoNet to snuggle up with. It reminds me of the
     time Jim Rysyk told me in late 1995 that this Web thing was just a
     passing fad, and once it collapsed there'd be a new renaissance for
     his 1-line 9600 baud TBBS system. Despite the dot-com implosion, I
     have yet to see masses of unemployed Photoshop designers paying to
     relearn the lost art of ANSI graphics. Of course, if it turns out that
     I am incorrect, a network that hasn't willingly accepted a single
     technical advancement since 1991 will be in perfect shape when the $2
     trillion worth of Internet investment gets thrown out the window.

     Perhaps I am being unfair to him. I'm sure someone can do a search for
     my name in the "political database" and come up with some of my
     rulings as RC that had every bit of the 19-year-old armchair lawyer in
     them as Philip's article. I am looking forward to his latest legal
     treatsie, arguing that since US indepndence was granted by an Act of
     the British Parliament in 1783 after the Treaty of Paris, an aye vote
     by Tony Blair and 300 of his Labour lapdogs might bring back the
     colonies and give the United States a true hereditary monarchy,
     instead of the pale imitation it has today. Rules are, after all,
     rules.

     Sincerely,

     Luke Kolin
     Roswell, Georgia

     PS: Frank, it just occurred to me as I was re-reading the bottom of
     Philip's article, with his references to "rogues" and "chaos". His
     article is the retro reprint, from early 1987 when AlterNet was just
     getting started, and we couldn't have "rogue" FTNs because it would
     lead to "chaos"? Am I right?
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                 Most Important Body Part....Not just the Heart
                           Email from: Alan Malmberg
                       Submitted by: wdbonner@pacbell.net

      My mother used to ask me what is the most
      important part of the body.
     Through the years I would take a guess at what I
      thought was the correct answer.
     When I was younger, I thought sound was very
      important to us as humans, so I said, 'My ears, Mommy.'

     She said, 'No. Many people are deaf. But you keep
      thinking about it and I will ask you again soon.'
     Several years passed before she asked me again.
      Since making my first attempt, I had contemplated the
     correct answer.

     So this time I told her, 'Mommy, sight is very important
     to everybody, so  it must be our eyes'.
     She looked at me and told me, 'You are learning  fast,
     but the answer is not correct because there are many
     people who are blind.'

     Stumped again, I continued my quest for knowledge
      and over the years, Mother asked me a couple more
     times and always her answer was, 'No. But you are
     getting smarter every year, my child.'

     Then last year, my grandpa died. Everybody was  hurt.
     Everybody was crying. Even my father cried. I remember
     that  especially because it was only the second time I saw
     him cry.

     My Mom looked  at me when it was our turn to say our final
     good-bye to Grandpa. She asked me, 'Do you know the
     most important  body part yet, my dear?'   I was shocked
     when she asked me this now. I always thought this was a
     game between her and me.

     She saw the confusion on my face and told me,
      'This question is very important. It shows that you have
     really lived in  your life. For every  body part you gave
     me in the past, I have told  you was wrong and I have
     given you an example why. But today is the day  you
     need to learn this important lesson.'

     She looked down at me as only a mother can. I saw
      her eyes well up with tears. She said, 'My darling, the
     most important  body part is your shoulder.' I asked,
     'Is it because it holds up your head?'  She replied,
     'No, it is because it can hold the  head of a friend or a
     loved one when they cry. Everybody needs a shoulder to
      cry on sometime in life, my girl. I only hope that you have
     enough love and friends that you will always have a
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     shoulder to cry on when you need it.'

     Then and there I knew the most important body part is
     not a selfish one. It is sympathetic to the pain of others.
     People will forget what you said.......
     People will forget what you did........
     But people will NEVER forget how you made them feel.
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                                Flickering Light
                                By Andrea Santos
                             asantos@santronics.com


     The uprisings seen of late in the Zone admin echos are nothing new.
     They've been going on since the beginning of Fidonet and will continue
     on until the final light flickers dim.  Proportionately, even today,
     it's an infintesmal group of nodes who make an incredible amount of
     noise, sufficient to drown out the majority who never have, and never
     will, have an interest in anything other than receiving their mail and
     enjoying their hobby.  Over time, the players change, but the motives
     remain the same.

     For the squabbling players, the admin echos, quite simply, provide a
     reason to hang on to a node number and hence membership in Fidonet.
     What other explanation can there be for nodes who operate a Mail Only
     machine and spend 95% of their time in echos where no users are found,
     arguing over matters of which they have no legitimate technical or
     administrative concern?  These same nodes will complain endlessly that
     Fidonet is running itself into the ground, but do absolutely nothing,
     per their actions, to effect change.

     There can be no misinterpretation of Policy 4, whether viewed as a
     guideline, or biblical verse, with regard to multiple listings in more
     than 1 Region.  It does't happen and the reason it doesn't happen is
     because there isn't a single node in the network who can put forth a
     "TECHNICAL" reason why it should!  Obviously, geography cannot be the
     rationale because no node can reside in two places simultaneously, so
     the argument must be based on technical concerns which don't apply.
     Any other argument would fall outside the bounds of Policy 4, period.

     Now, if it is ever determined to toss out technical merit, where
     multiple listings are granted at will, the end result will mirror the
     problems seen with the Internet, where address after address "bounces
     back" as undeliverable. Such events would render the Nodelist address
     book fairly useless and clearly defeat the smooth operation of any
     Net, Region, Zone and, hence, Fidonet.

     I won't even bother to address the secondary issue of RVIA flags
     because there are few, if any, nodes who can justify their necessity.

     What I will address instead is why Fidonet continues to flounder and
     it has little to do with who is or isn't the Net, Regional or Zone
     Coordinator, how many listings a node has, or where, or what flags
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     they fly, but the inordinate amount of time wasted in Admin echos on
     the above subjects, as well as rehashing previously hashed-to-death
     incidents, rather than contributing to echos where USERS are on hand
     and getting more users to participate in the network.

     When that last user turns out the lights, there will be no more
     Fidonet!   If you are an active Node in Network, why not ask yourself
     what you are doing to keep the light on?

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                    [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ]
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                                Ol'WDB's Column
                              wdbonner@pacbell.net

                                 Tater  People

      Some people never seem motivated to participate, but are just content
     to watch while others do the work.
     They are called "Speck Taters".

      Some people never do anything to help, but are gifted at finding
     fault with  the way others do the work.
     They are called "Comment Taters".

      Some people are very bossy and like to tell others what to do, but
     don't  want to soil their own hands.
     They are called "Dick Taters".

      Some people are always looking to cause problems by asking others to
     agree with them.  "It is too hot or too cold, too sour or too sweet".
     They are called "AggieTaters".

      There are those who say they will help, but somehow just never get
     around to actually doing what they promised.
     They are called "Hezzie Taters".

      Some people can put up a front and pretend to be someone they are
     not.
     They  are called "Emma Taters".

      Then there are those who love others and do what they say they will.
     They  are always prepared to stop whatever they are doing and lend a
     helping hand.  They bring real sunshine into the lives of others.
     They are called  "Sweet Taters".

     And some folks in "Fight-O-Net" are known for bashing *C's, Ripping
     policy to shreds and demeaning others not in their "Click".
     They are known as "Mashed Taters". <g>

     Lastly, there are those that rave at everyone who dares to ask a
     question, or make a statement about anything, and are negative about
     everything...
     They are known as "Bombastically Scalloped Taters".  hee-heh

     With Warm Regards,
     Ol'wdb

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                         [ HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN ]
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      The Meaning of FidoNet – The Miracle of Hatching: Seenbys: The Z1EC

     I cannot take credit for the following jewel. Credit belongs to Carl
     Austin Bennett. I think he did a fantastic job applying this to
     Seenby-gate.

     What do you need to know to understand this scene? The idea comes
     from Monty Python's movie:
     The Meaning of Life - The Miracle of Birth: Part 2: The Third World.
     If you have not seen the movie then rent it! From what I understand
     this scene cost more to produce than the movie Monty Python and the
     Holy Grail.

     And now, The Miracle of Hatching: Seenbys: The Z1EC

     The latest dance tune... foxtrot, evidently:

          There are Geeks in the world,
          There are Eggheads,
          There are Crackers and Warezd00dz and then,
          There are those that follow Microsoft,
          But I've never been one of them...

          I'm a Zone Echo Co-ordinator,
          And stuff SEEN-BY's whenever I'm bored,
          And the one thing they say about Krackheads,
          Is they'll take you as soon as you're warm...

          You don't have to be a six-footer,
          You don't have to have any cache,
          You don't have to have any credibility -
          You're a ZEC the moment you hatch...

          Because...

          Every SEEN-BY's sacred,
          Every SEEN-BY's great,
          If a SEEN-BY's wasted,
          Jan gets quite irate.

     Children: Every SEEN-BY's sacred,
          Every SEEN-BY's great,
          If a SEEN-BY's wasted,
          Jan gets quite irate.

     Child: [solo] Let the heathen spill theirs,
          Among the backbone dust,
          Jan shall make them pay for
          Each node that won't be stuffed.

     Children: Every SEEN-BY's wanted,
          Every SEEN-BY's good,
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          Every SEEN-BY's needed,
          In your neighbourhood.

     Mum: [solo] Hackers, Telnet Morons,
          Save theirs just anywhere,
          But Jan loves those who stuff their
          SEEN-BY's with more care.

     Men neighbours: [peering out of toilets]
          Every SEEN-BY's sacred,
          Every SEEN-BY's great,

     Women neighbours: [on wall]
          If a SEEN-BY's wasted,

     Children: Jan get quite irate.

     Priest: [in church] Every SEEN-BY's sacred,

     Bride and Groom: Every SEEN-BY's good.

     Nannies: Every SEEN-BY's needed.

     Cardinals: [in prams] In your neighbourhood!

     Children: Every SEEN-BY's useful,
          Every SEEN-BY's fine,

     Funeral Cortege: Jan needs everybody's,

     First Mourner: Mine!

     Lady Mourner: And mine!

     Corpse: And mine!

     Nun: [solo] Though the backbones spill theirs,
          O'er mountain, hill and plain,

     Various artefacts in a Regional *Cass-whole's Souvenir Shop:
          Jan shall strike them down for
          Each SEEN-BY spilt in vain.

     Everybody: Every SEEN-BY's sacred,
          Every SEEN-BY's good,
          Every SEEN-BY's needed,
          In your neighbourhood.

     Even more than everybody, including two fire-eaters, a juggler, a
     clown at a piano and a stilt-walker riding a bicycle:
          Every SEEN-BY's sacred,
          Every SEEN-BY's great,
          If a SEEN-BY's wasted,
          Jan gets quite irate.

               [Everybody cheers (including the fire-eaters, the
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               juggler, the clown at the piano and the stilt-walker
               riding the bicycle). Fireworks go off, a Chinese dragon
               is brought on and flags of all nations are unfurled
               overhead.]
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                            [ COMIX IN ASCII ]
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                           [ SPECIAL INTEREST ]
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                               L.O.R.D Tournament
                               By SHANNON TALLEY
                                   1:275/311

     December 27, 2001

      -=-=- Come one -=-=- Come All -=-= To the Thieves -=-=- To the
     warriors -=-=- To the wizards who dabble in magic! -=-= A call to arms
     has begun!!  -=-=

     FidoTel proudly sponsors a "New Year's 2002" Legend of the Red Dragon
     Tournament!

     The tournament will last "6 deeds or 21 days".  It will begin at
     0900(EST) on Tuesday, 1 January 2001.

     The Winner of the tournament will receive a beautiful dragon statue!!
     Some come on, log in, and "Enjoy!!"

     Click http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord for details and pictures of
     the prize!

     http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord
     http://www.fidotel.com
     telnet://telnet.fidotel.com

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                                 Nodelist Stats

      INPUT NODELIST FILE      : NODELIST.362
      File has a Date Stamp of : 12/28/2001
      File Size (uncompressed) :   1169.70 KBytes.

      The Input Nodelist file  has 10556 Nodes in it
      and a total of  13769 non-comment entries.

      The list has     6 Zones listed.
                      65 Region Coordinators listed.
                     483 Network Hosts listed.
                     730 Hubs listed.
                     336 DOWN Nodes listed.
                     907 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
                     686 HOLD Nodes listed.

      Administrative overhead = 1284 ( 12.16 %)
      PRIVATE NODES overhead  = 907 (  8.59 %)

      Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
            9600 =   9009 (  85.34 %)
                        (HST's =  184 or   2.04 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                        (CSP's =    1 or   0.01 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
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                        (PEP's =   14 or   0.16 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (MAX's =    0 or   0.00 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (HAY's =    2 or   0.02 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V32's = 5065 or  56.22 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V32B's =  574 or   6.37 % "       "    "     "   )
                        (V42's = 4863 or  53.98 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V42B's =  620 or   6.88 % "       "    "     "   )
            2400 =    109 (  1.03 %)
            1200 =      6 (  0.06 %)
             300 =    469 (  4.44 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      F_Req Flag      Applicable Software     Number of Systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             3965
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
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      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                 9
                      Dutchie 2.90b
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      XC              Opus 1.1                       11
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      XP              Seadog                          7
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      XR              Opus 1.03                      69
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      XW              Fido >12M                     405
                      Tabby
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      XX              D'Bridge 1.30               4583
                      Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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      CrashMail capable =   3642 ( 34.50 %)
      MailOnly Nodes    =   5598 ( 53.03 %)
      Listed-Only Nodes =    813 (  7.70 %)

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               [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ]
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                             Fidonet Software List
                                By Todd Cochrane
     Type:

     B=BBS  D=Door  M=Mailer  T=Tosser   C=Communication (terminal)
     U=Utility  P=Point Software  I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     (   Software Name     ) |Type| (         Author/Contact              )
     <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
     |BBBS Home Page         |B   | b@bbbs.net                            |
     |                       |    | www.bbbs.net/                         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |ELEBBS The Elevator    |B   | elebbs@elebbs.com                     |
     |Software Production    |    | www.elebbs.com                        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Hermes II Project      |B   | info@HermesII.org                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.hermesii.org/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Maximus BBS Support    |B   | sales@lainus.com                      |
     |Page (Non Official)    |    | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |MBSE BBS               |B   | Michiel Broek                         |
     |                       |    | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net          |
     |                       |    | http://mbse.sourceforge.net           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Mystic BBS             |B   | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/      |
     |                       |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Nexus Bulletin         |B   | groberts@nexusbbs.net                 |
     |Board System           |    | http://www.nexusbbs.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC  | info@telegrafix.com                   |
     |Telegrafix             |    | http://www.telegrafix.com             |
     |Communications         |    | 540-678-4050                          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |RemoteAccess           |B   | Bruce Morse                           |
     |Central                |    | bfmorse@rapro.com                     |
     |                       |    | http://www.rapro.com/                 |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Spitfire BBS           |B   | MDWoltz@AOL.COM                       |
     |Buffalo Creek Software |    |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Synchronet BBS         |BT  | sysop@vert.synchro.net                |
     |                       |    | http://www.synchro.net                |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Telegard BBS           |B   | support@telegard.net                  |
     |                       |    | http://www.telegard.net/              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Wildcat Interactive    |BTMI| sales@santronics.com                  |
     |Net Server             |    | http://www.santronics.com             |
     FIDONEWS 18-53               Page 16                  31 Dec 2001


     |Plantinum Express      |    |(305)248-3204                          |
     |                       |    | Santronics Inc.                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Bentstone Capabilities |D   | info@stonebenders.com                 |
     |Group                  |    | http://www.srupc.com/mall             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Jibben Software        |D   | scott@jibben.com                      |
     |                       |    | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/        |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JNS Software Door Games|D   | Rusty Johnson                         |
     |                       |    | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com            |
     |                       |    | 304-733-0113                          |
     |                       |    | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Legend Of The Red      |D   |                                       |
     |Dragon Reborn          |    |                                       |
     |(L.O.R.D.)             |    | http://www.lordlegacy.org/            |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PC Pursuits            |D   |brucep@pop.kis.net                     |
     |                       |    |(301)240-6653                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |S and T Software       |D   |Mark Bappe                             |
     |                       |    |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net             |
     |                       |    |(770)788-6843                          |
     |                       |    |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/         |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D   |nannette@shiningstar.net               |
     |                       |    |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Sunrise Door Software  |D   |Al Lawerence                           |
     |                       |    |al@sunrisedoors.com                    |
     |                       |    |(404)256-9518                          |
     |                       |    |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/           |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The Brainex System     |D   |info@brainex.com                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Trade Wars Door Game   |D   |jpritch@eisonline.com                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/    |
     |                       |    |1:299/110                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Vagabond Software      |D   |Bryan Turner                           |
     |                       |    |vagabond@darktech.org                  |
     |                       |    |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/        |
     |                       |    |1:124/7013                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FMail Support          |T   |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org               |
     |                       |    |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/                |
     |                       |    |2:280/1076                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Squish Tosser          |T   |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Argus RITLABS          |M   |argus@ritlabs.com                      |
     |                       |    |373-2-246889                           |
     |                       |    |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/          |
     FIDONEWS 18-53               Page 17                  31 Dec 2001


     |                       |    |2:469/84                               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |FrontDoor              |MTPC|Definite Solutions                     |
     |FrontDoor APX          |    |sales@defsol.se                        |
     |Mailer/Point Software  |    |http://www.defsol.se/                  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BeeMail Home Page      |M   |http://beemail.gexonline.net           |
     |                       |    |Stephen Proffit                        |
     |                       |    |1:211/405                              |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkleyTerm XE         |M   |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/           |
     |Frontend Mailer        |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |BinkD                  |MI  |maloff@corbina.net                     |
     |                       |    |http://2f.ru/binkd/                    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidogate               |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net                |
     |                       |    |http://www.fidogate.org/               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Fidonet to Internet    |MI  |Bo Bendtsen                            |
     |Mailer                 |    |sales@terminate.com                    |
     |                       |    |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm  |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |GiGo Software          |UI  |http://www.gigo.com/                   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Internet Rex           |MI  |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca                  |
     |                       |    |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Tmail                  |I   |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm   |
     |(Russian /w English DL)|    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransX Multiboard      |M   |support@multiboard.com                 |
     |Communications Inc.    |    |http://www.multiboard.com/software/    |
     |                       |    |transx.html                            |
     |                       |    |1:2401/305                             |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |TransNet               |I   |transnet@ressl.com.ar                  |
     |                       |    |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Watergate              |I   |ramon@sbbs.se                          |
     |                       |    |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/          |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU  |http://www.jetsys.de/                  |
     |JetStat and other Atari|    |                                       |
     |Fidonet utilities      |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |APoint (Author)        |P   |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm|
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho)   |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |CrossPoint             |P   |("Original" version)                   |
     |                       |    |http://www.crosspoint.de               |
     |                       |    |http://www.apoint-mail.de              |
     |                       |    |(OpenXP Projekt)                       |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.com (English)        |
     |                       |    |http://www.openxp.de (German)          |
     |                       |    |CrossPoint (XP2 Team)                  |
     FIDONEWS 18-53               Page 18                  31 Dec 2001


     |                       |    |http://www.xp2.de                      |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |WinPoint95             |P   |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english    |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |The OpenXP CrossPoint  |P   |http://www.happyarts.de/xp             |
     |Projekt                |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |Terminate Terminal     |P   |http://www.terminate.com               |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     |PPoint-FTS compatible  |P   |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm         |
     |E-Mail System          |    |                                       |
     |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
     \====================================================================/

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                v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com
                | email address or
     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     @ Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   @ Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   @ Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
      103/5     @ Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   @ Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   @ Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
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      106/1     @ Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 128k  | ???
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      134/11    @ Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     @ Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   @ Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | aDSL  | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkD,FTP      | CABLE | n/c
      379/1     @ Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      393/9005  | Steve Quarrella  |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ???   | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkP VMoT FTP | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL  | n/c
      396/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   @ Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-53               Page 22                  31 Dec 2001


     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     3830/10   | Matt Bedynek      |FTP, BinkD      | OC3     n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Goran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BinkP          | 8/2mb | n/c
      221/360   @ Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   @ Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  @ Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   @ Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     @ Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/558   | Vlad Hrusca       | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Ofir Michaeli &   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-53               Page 23                  31 Dec 2001


      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   @ Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   @ Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     3830/10    | Matt Bedynek      | FTP, BinkP     | 100Mb | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238    | Sergey Gubanov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
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     Zone 3
      633/260   @ Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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     Zone 4
      801/161   @ Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
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     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

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     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
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