     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 18, Number 39             24 Sep 2001 
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     | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are |
     | |  FidoNet community.  | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings|
     | |                      | |     San Francisco, California, USA      |
     | | Who!?!   ____________| |                                         |
     | |   Me?!? /  __          |       Crash Netmail Articles To:        |
     | |        /  /^^\         |     Editor@1:1/23 (1-972-562-8064)      |
     | | WOOF! (  /|OO \        |          Frank Vest@1:124/6308          |
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     | The dog ate `@/  \    _  |             flv@texoma.net              |
     | my Dos disk! U    \   \\ |                                         |
     |   ____      ||||   \   ))|           Editor: Frank Vest            |
     |  |    (     ||||  /  \// |     Deputy-Editor: Lawrence Garvin      |
     |  | (*)(_   _//|| _\   /  |                                         |
     | /|__U__|\ (_/(_|(____/   |   Newspapers should have no friends.    |
     |(_________)       (jm)    |                    -- JOSEPH PULITZER   |
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         Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  2
        The Fidonet, Zone 1, Echolist  ............................  2
        What has been, will be again?  ............................  2
     3. GUEST EDITORIAL  ..........................................  5
        Americans  ................................................  5
     4. COMIX IN ASCII  ...........................................  6
        *** GREETINGS FROM THE U.S.S. FIDONEWS ***  ...............  6
     5. POET'S CORNER  ............................................  7
        Nemesis  ..................................................  7
     6. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES  ......................................  8
        "JESUS IS WATCHING YOU"  ..................................  8
     7. OTHER STUFF  ..............................................  9
        This Week's Holidays  .....................................  9
        October Holidays  .........................................  9
     8. CLASSIFIED ADS  ........................................... 13
        Rotating Ads  ............................................. 13
     9. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................................. 14
        Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*  .......................... 14
     10. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ..................................... 19
        Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 19
     11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 25
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 25
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 26
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 27
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     "Most people work hard enough not to get fired and get paid just
     enough not to quit."
                                 -George Carlin

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     =================================================================
                             GENERAL ARTICLES
     =================================================================

                         The Fidonet, Zone 1, Echolist
                                 By Frank Vest

     Just some random thoughts. Take them as ideas, suggestions or just
     ignore them

     The Elist:

     While this is a good tool, I have some concerns about it.

     1. Why list echos that are not distributed? If you look at the thing,
        there are a lot of "place holder" and "Tag holder" entries.
       A. This adds a lot of bulk to the Elist.
        1. Harder to search the list
       B. It robs others of starting an echo that might be viable if
          distributed.

     This is a dis-service to Fidonet. What if someone generated a list of
     thousands of combinations of "Echo Tags" and elisted them? A person
     with a computer could do this and I'm surprised it hasn't been
     attempted.

     2. Why is there a "Volume" listed?
       A. How can anyone know what the volume of an echo will be?
        1. Estimate the volume?
         a. Over what? a week? month? year?
       B. Is this a "weapon" that can be used to remove an echo?

     In this day and time, an echo can have a volume of 50 messages one
     week and 0 for the next four weeks... only to be followed by 100 a
     week after that.

     Just some things to think about. I'm not kicking the Elist. It is a
     good tool to prevent duplicate echos, show what echos are available,
     tell who the Moderator is and other facts that help Fidonet Echomail.
     On the other hand, it could be used to control echos.


     Regards,

      Frank

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                          What has been, will be again?
                                 By Frank Vest
                                   1:124/6308

      There is a belief that time is a circle and what has been will be
     again. IOW, If it happened in the past, it will happen again in the
     future.

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      I'm not sure what the above has to do with what I'm going to write,
     but it sure sounded neat. :-)

      I'm sitting here thinking about Fidonet, computers, the past, the
     future, computer viruses and other such things (that seems to be
     normal for me). :-)

      I'm not a tech sort of person, but I remember having an old CPM
     machine. I graduated from that to a "real" computer (IBM PS/2) shortly
     thereafter. When I got to the "big time" of the PS/2, I started
     learning about viruses and how they can infect and affect a computer.
     With Dos 5.00 as my operating system and me accessing BBS so much, I
     was concerned. I took the measures to prevent infection and did my
     best to "keep an eye" on the system.

      Time went on and along came the likes of Windows, OS/2, Linux and
     other such programs and operating systems. Along with these came, of
     course, more and stronger viruses.

     So, where is this editorial going with all this?  I don't know. :-)

     Here's a thought

      It seems that the more popular the operating system, the more viruses
     there are that can affect it. Of course, things like the Internet,
     Fidonet and other stuff where many people share and access each
     other's systems has helped, I'm sure. I can't say for sure, but I
     don't remember CPM having a virus problem. I hear that a virus can't
     be written for Linux. OS/2 is supposed to be fairly safe as well.

      Ok, so what?

      Well, It seems that as new operating systems come into being, or
     become popular, there are more viruses written for them. So, here's a
     strange thought.

      Fidonet programs, as we know, tend to be small. Many are still Dos
     based, or have a Dos version. Now, I've not heard of a virus being
     written for Dos in a long time. So, is it safe to say that Dos is
     virus free? Probably not, but I'd say that the chances of having a new
     Dos virus hit your old Dos box is not very likely. :)

      With that in mind.... As computers become even more popular, the
     internet gains even more use, operating systems evolve and viruses
     follow along with this path, there could come a time where a virus
     will succeed in stopping the Internet and, maybe, enough computers in
     the right places to shut the world down.

     Wouldn't it be something if all of us "old Dos" users became the only
     systems that didn't get shut down due to a virus? Wouldn't it be
     strange to see international powers come to Fidonet and ask for help
     in getting information flowing since Fidonet and these old Dos
     machines were the only things still running?

     <shaking head upon awakening>

     FIDONEWS 18-39               Page 4                   24 Sep 2001


     Wow! What a dream!!.....  Or was it? ;-)

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                              GUEST EDITORIAL
     =================================================================

                                   AMERICANS
                              wdbonner@pacbell.net

      Patriotism is a bond that welds us together as one nation.
      Freedom is the spine of  our constitution.
      Justice is the spinal cord of the constitution.
      With Freedom and Justice we have Liberty to work, play, worship and
     live in the civil manner of our choice. That is the reason so many
     come to our shores for freedom and a new way of life.  Together all
     peoples of this great country will defeat and destroy terrorism. We
     MUST stay united and bonded by patriotism,  together... for all human
     kind!  Our sincere thanks to all of the nations of the world that have
     pledged their support and sympathies for our, and the world's grave
     loss of the WTC. "Stand Tall and Proud", America!

     Now a short note from Governor Jim Gilmore:

     Dear Friends:
      Over the past week and a half, we have all seen, heard and felt the
     true spirit of America and Americans.  While as a nation we mourn the
     tragic loss of so many innocent lives, our character and resolve has
     not been broken.

      In his speech to a Joint Session of Congress, President Bush said,
     "We are a country awakened to danger and called to defend freedom."

      And - as a nation - we will rise to the challenge.

      We will not live in terror.  We will stand united (with all nations
     against terrorism), by the strongest and deepest of ties - that of
     being an American.

      With a singleness of mind and purpose, we will persevere.

     Sincerely,
     Governor Jim Gilmore

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                              COMIX IN ASCII
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          *** GREETINGS FROM THE U.S.S. FIDONEWS ***


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        * TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO FIDONEWS HAS GONE BEFORE.... *


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                               POET'S CORNER
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                                    Nemesis
                           By Kay Shapero (1:102/125)

     It's called "legwork."

     Step by step
     Into the past
     Winding the thread before you.

     From the wreckage to the crash.
     From the crash to the plane.
     From the plane to the airport

     Step by step
     Into the past
     Winding the thread before you.

     Find the one who saw the killer.
     Find the one who drove the killer.
     Find the one who housed the killer.

     Step by step
     Into the past
     Winding the thread before you.

     And at the end
     The Minotaur?
     Bring your spear.

     It's called "legwork".

     Copyright Kay Shapero, Sept 11, 2001

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                            CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
     =================================================================

                            "JESUS IS WATCHING YOU"

      A burglar broke into a house one night.  He shone his flashlight
     around, looking for valuables, and when he picked up a CD player to
     place in his sack, a strange, disembodied voice echoed from the dark,

      "Jesus is watching you".

      He nearly jumped out of his skin, clicked his flashlight off and
     froze. When he heard nothing more after a bit, he shook his head,
     promised himself a vacation after the next big score, then clicked the
     light back on and began searching for more valuables.  Just as he
     pulled the stereo out so he could disconnect the wires, clear as a
     bell he heard

     "Jesus is watching you".

      Totally rattled, he shone his light around frantically, looking for
     the source of the voice.  Finally, in the corner of the room, his
     flashlight came to rest on a parrot.

     "Did you say that"?, he hissed at the parrot.

     "Yes", the parrot confessed, and then squawked "I'm just trying to
     warn you".

      The burglar relaxed.  "Warn me, huh" - "Who do you think you are
     anyway"?

     "Moses", replied the bird.  "

     Moses"?, the burglar laughed. "What kind of stupid people would name a
     parrot "Moses"?.

     The bird promptly answered:  "The same kind of people that would name
     a Rottweiler *Jesus*".

     |-))

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                                OTHER STUFF
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                              This Week's Holidays

     Day              Holiday
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     24.
          Constitution Day in Cambodia
          Heritage Day in South Africa
          Our Lady of Mercedes in Dominican Republic
          Republic Day in Tobago
          Republic Day in Trinidad and Tobago
          Unification of the Kingdom in Saudi Arabia
     25
          Army Day/Armed Forces Day in Mozambique
          Kamarampaka Day in Rwanda
     26.
          Revolution Day in Yemen
     27.
          Feast of Finding the New Cross in Ethiopia
          French Community Holiday in Belgium
     28.
          Confucious' Day in Taiwan
          Referendum Day in Guinea
     29.
          Battle of Boqueron in Paraguay
          St. Michael's Day in Papua New Guinea
     30.
          Botswanna Day in Botswanna
          Customs Day in Marshall Islands
          National Youth Day in Turks & Caicos

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     Below are some holidays in October. If you would like to write an
     article about one of these holidays and how it is celebrated in your
     county, send the article to one of these addresses:

     flv@texoma.net
     Frank Vest 1:124/6308
     Editor 1:1/23

     I'll run it during the week that the holiday occurs.

                                October Holidays

     =====================================================================
     Day                       Holiday
     1
         Armed Forces Day in Korea, South
         Cyprus Independence Day in Cyprus
         Independence Day in Nigeria
         Independence Day/Tuvalu Day in Tuvalu
     FIDONEWS 18-39               Page 10                  24 Sep 2001


         National Day in China
         National Day in Nigeria
         Regency Exchange in San Marino
     2
         Anniversary of Guinean Independence/Independence Day in Guinea
         Mahatma Gandhi's Birthday in India
         Republic Day in Guinea
     3
         Francisco Morazan's Birthday/Morazan Day in Honduras
         National Foundation Day in Korea, South
     4
         Independence Day in Lesotho
     5
         Constitution Day in Vanuatu
         Republic Day/Anniversary of Proclamation of the Republic in
         Portugal
     6
         Armed Forces Day in Egypt
         Labor Day in Australia
         United Nations Day in Barbados
     7
         Day of Goodwill in Namibia
         Merchant Holiday in Antigua and Barbuda
     8
         Battle of Angamos in Peru
         Columbus Day in United States
         Mother's Day in Malawi
         Thanksgiving in Canada
     9
         Army Day in Azerbaijan
         Independence Day in Uganda
         Independence of Guayaquil in Ecuador
         Korean Alphabet Day in Korea, South
         Leif Erikson Day in United States
     10
         Druger Day in South Africa
         Fiji Day in Fiji
         Health and Sports Day in Japan
         Moi Day in Kenya
         Oklahoma Historical Day in United States (Oklahoma)
     11
         Anniversary of the Beginning of the Wars of Independence in Cuba
     12
         Battle of Sarandi in Uruguay
         Columbus Day in Argentina
         Columbus Day in Argentina
         Columbus Day (Dia de la Raza) in Honduras
         Columbus Day (traditionally) in United States
         Columbus Day/Dia de la Raza in Costa Rica
         Day of Liberation from the French in Laos
         Dia de la Raza in Colombia
         Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Mexico
         Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Venezuela
         Dia de la Raza/Discovery of America in Uruguay
         Discovery Day in Bahamas
         Independence Day/National Day? in Equatorial Guinea
     FIDONEWS 18-39               Page 11                  24 Sep 2001


         National Day in Spain
         Our Lady Aparecida Day in Brazil
     13
         St. Edward's Day in United Kingdom
     14
         Children's White Sunday in Western Samoa
         National Day in Yemen Democratic Republic
         National Day/Revolution Day 1963 in Yemen Arab Republic
         Petkouden in Bulgaria
         Svetitskhovloba in Georgia
     15
         Evacuation Day in Tunisia
         Heroes' Day in Jamaica
     16
         National Boss Day in United States
     17
         Columbus Day in Turks & Caicos
         Dessaline's Death Anniversary in Haiti
         Feast of St. Margaret Alacoque in Saint Lucia
         Hurricane Thanksgiving Day in Virgin Islands
     18
         Independence Day in Azerbaijan
     20
         Anniversary of the 1944 Revolution in Guatemala in Guatemala
         Kenyatta Forces Day in Kenya
         Revolution Day in Guatemala
     21
         Armed Forces Day/Army Day in Honduras
         Compact Day in Marshall Islands
         Revolution Day in Somalia
         St. Ursula's Day in British Virgin Islands
     22
         Labor Day in New Zealand
     23
         Chulalongkorn's Day in Thailand
         Liberation Day in Egypt
         Paris Peace Agreements on Cambodia in Cambodia
         Republic Day in Hungary
         St. George's Day (Giorgoba) in Georgia
     24
         Independence Day in Zambia
         Suez Victory Day in Egypt
         United Nations Day in Micronesia
     25
         Constitution Day in Lithuania
         Independence Day/Republic Day in Kazakhstan
         Taiwan Restoration Day in Taiwan
         Thanksgiving in Grenada
     26
         Gospel Day Pageant in Cook Islands
         National Day in Austria
     27
         Independence Day in St. Vincent & the Grenadines
         Independence Day in Turkmenistan
     28
         Day of the 1956 Revolution in Hungary
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         Establishment of Independence Czechoslovakia/Day of the Republic
         in Czech Republic
         Ochi Day in Cyprus
         Ochi Day in Greece
     29
         Bank Holiday in Ireland
         Republic Day in Turkey
     30
         Birthday of HM the King in Cambodia
     31
         Halloween in United States
         Nevada Day in United States (Nevada)
         Reformation Day in Slovenia
         Samhain in many countries

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                              CLASSIFIED ADS
     =================================================================

                                  Rotating ads


      As a service of the Fidonews, I am prepared to offer rotating ads for
     those that provide services to Fidonet such as Mail Hubs, Gateways,
     Fidonet via Internet and such.

      How this works:

     1. Create an ad following the guidelines for the Fidonews.
     2. Keep it short and to the point.
     3. Put contact and other needed information in the ad.
     4. Send it to Frank Vest as a file attach.
       A. E-Mail "flv@texoma.net
       B. Netmail "Frank Vest - 1:124/6308

      I will put the ad in a pool and use a program each week to
     automatically rotate the ads into the Fidonews.

      Please! If you stop offering service or need to change your ad,
     contact me! This is very important to keep the ads current.

     I'm doing this on a trial basis. If it gets to be a problem, I will
     have to discontinue the service. I can make no promise of how often
     your ad will be in the Fidonews. This will depend on how many ads I
     have to rotate through.

      As always in Fidonet, I make no guaranties. :)

     Regards,

      Frank Vest - Fidonews Editor

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     =================================================================
                         FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================

                        *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                  BBS Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     BBBS Home Page
     b@bbbs.net
     http://www.bbbs.net/

     ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
     elebbs@elebbs.com
     http://www.elebbs.com/

     Hermes II Project (Mac)
     info@HermesII.org
     http://www.hermesii.org/

     Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
     sales@lainus.com
     http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

     Mystic BBS
     http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

     Nexus Bulletin Board System
     groberts@nexusbbs.net
     http://www.nexusbbs.net/

     RemoteAccess Central
     Bruce Morse
     bfmorse@rapro.com
     http://www.rapro.com/

     Spitfire BBS
     Buffalo Creek Software
     MDWoltz@AOL.COM
     http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

     Synchronet BBS
     sysop@vert.synchro.net
     http://www.synchro.net

     Telegard BBS
     support@telegard.net
     http://www.telegard.net/

     Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
     Santronics Inc.
     sales@santronics.com
     (305)248-3204
     http://www.santronics.com

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     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Door Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Bentstone Capabilities Group
     info@stonebenders.com
     http://www.srupc.com/mall

     Jibben Software
     scott@jibben.com
     http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

     JNS Software Door Games
     Rusty Johnson
     rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com
     304-733-0113
     http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

     PC Pursuits
     brucep@pop.kis.net
     (301)240-6653
     http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

     S and T Software
     Mark Bappe
     mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net
     (770)788-6843
     http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

     Shinning Star BBS Doors
     nannette@shiningstar.net
     http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

     Sunrise Door Software
     Al Lawerence
     al@sunrisedoors.com
     (404)256-9518
     http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

     The Brainex System
     info@brainex.com
     http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

     Trade Wars Door Game
     jpritch@eisonline.com
     http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
     1:299/110

     Vagabond Software
     Bryan Turner
     vagabond@darktech.org
     http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
     1:124/7013

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                  Mail Tossers
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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     FMail Support
     wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org
     http://fmail.nl.eu.org/
     2:280/1076

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                Mailer Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
     Definite Solutions
     sales@defsol.se
     http://www.defsol.se/


     BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
     http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

     Plantinum Express for Wildcat
     Santronics Inc.
     sales@santronics.com
     (305)248-3204
     http://www.santronics.com

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                         Fidonet via Internet Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Argus
     RITLABS
     argus@ritlabs.com
     373-2-246889
     http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
     2:469/84

     BinkD
     maloff@corbina.net
     http://2f.ru/binkd/

     Fidogate
     Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net
     http://www.fidogate.org/

     Fidonet to Internet Mailer
     Bo Bendtsen
     sales@terminate.com
     http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

     GiGo Software
     http://www.gigo.com/

     Internet Rex
     cruden@cs.ualberta.ca
     http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

     Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
     http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

     FIDONEWS 18-39               Page 17                  24 Sep 2001


     TransX
     Multiboard Communications Inc.
     support@multiboard.com
     http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
     1:2401/305

     TransNet
     transnet@ressl.com.ar
     http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

     Watergate
     ramon@sbbs.se
     http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Point Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
     http://www.defsol.se/

     JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
     http://www.jetsys.de/

     APoint
     http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
     http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

     CrossPoint ("Original" version)
     http://www.crosspoint.de
     http://www.apoint-mail.de

     CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
     http://www.openxp.com (English)
     http://www.openxp.de (German)

     CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
     http://www.xp2.de

     WinPoint95
     http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

     The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
     http://www.happyarts.de/xp

     Terminate Terminal
     http://www.terminate.com

     PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
     http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                      Other Software, Utillities and such
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
     http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

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     BGFAX Home Page
     http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/

     SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
     http://www.gwinn.com

     NetModem for Windows
     http://www.allensoftware.com

     Com/IP
     <http://pcmicro.com/comip

     Husky - Portable Fido Software
     http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

     cFos Fossil driver
     http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Dead Links
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

     MBSE BBS for Linux
     http://freezer-burn.org/mbse/

     Renegade BBS
     http://www.egate.net/renegade/

     Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
     http://lord.darktech.org/

     BeeMail Home Page
     http://www.bise.tzo.com/beemail/

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         Net 103:  http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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        Net 2410:  http://www.vector11.com/net2410/
       Region 13:  http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/
         Net 109:  http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/net109/
         Net 261:  http://www.baltimorepress.com/~net261/
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         Net 124:  http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/
                   http://texoma.net/~flv
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                   http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
         Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
       Region 25:  <Vacant>
       Region 26:  http://www.nemesis.ie
          REC 26:  http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)
                   http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
           REC34:  http://www.fidospain.org
       Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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          Net422:  http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
       Region 50:  http://www.fido7.com/  (Russian)
        Net 5010:  http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5015:  http://www.fido.nnov.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5028:  HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/
        Net 5030:  http://kenga.ru/fido/  (Russian & English)
     ?? Net 5049:  http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org  (English/Russian)
        Net 5074:  http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net
     ?? Net 5085:  http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

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                          Fidonet Via Internet Hubs


     a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
     address. The email is translated as follows
     firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
     FIDONEWS 18-39               Page 21                  24 Sep 2001


     appropriate individual's email.  Anyone in this list will
     also receive routed notice of this feature.

                v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com
                | email address or
     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     @ Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   @ Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   @ Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
       18/600   | Jerry Gause       | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      103/5     @ Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   @ Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   @ Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     @ Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    @ Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     @ Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 128k  | ???
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      1:134/11  @ Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     @ Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   @ Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | aDSL  | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkD,FTP      | CABLE | n/c
      379/1     @ Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      393/9005  | Steve Quarrella  |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ???   | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkP VMoT FTP | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        | UUE            | 33.6  | $26/yr
      396/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-39               Page 22                  24 Sep 2001


     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   @ Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3651/9     @ Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Goran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BN IFCICO      | ???   | n/c
      221/360   @ Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   @ Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  @ Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   @ Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     @ Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/558   | Vlad Hrusca       | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Ofir Michaeli &   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-39               Page 23                  24 Sep 2001


      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   @ Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   @ Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     3830/10    | Matt Bedynek      | FTP, BinkP     | 100Mb | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238    | Sergey Gubanov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   @ Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   @ Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
      905/100   | Fabian Gervan     | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     ----------------------------------------------
     Fidonet oriented news servers

     news.osirusoft.com
     FIDONEWS 18-39               Page 24                  24 Sep 2001


     news.tardis.net

     Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
     irc.osirusoft.com  (Peers wanted)

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                                 Nodelist Stats

      INPUT NODELIST FILE      : NODELIST.264
      File has a Date Stamp of :  9/20/2001
      File Size (uncompressed) :   1209.33 KBytes.

      The Input Nodelist file  has 11154 Nodes in it
      and a total of  14231 non-comment entries.

      The list has     6 Zones listed.
                      67 Region Coordinators listed.
                     499 Network Hosts listed.
                     766 Hubs listed.
                     375 DOWN Nodes listed.
                     844 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
                     520 HOLD Nodes listed.

      Administrative overhead = 1338 ( 12.00 %)
      PRIVATE NODES overhead  = 844 (  7.57 %)

      Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
                  9600 =   9573 (  85.83 %)
                       (HST's =  206 or   2.15 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                       (CSP's =    2 or   0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                       (PEP's =   16 or   0.17 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (MAX's =    0 or   0.00 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (HAY's =    3 or   0.03 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (V32's = 5423 or  56.65 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (V32B's =  682 or   7.12 % "       "    "     "   )
                       (V42's = 5138 or  53.67 % "        "    "     "   )
                       (V42B's =  736 or   7.69 % "       "    "     "   )
           2400 =    114 (  1.02 %)
           1200 =      8 (  0.07 %)
            300 =    498 (  4.46 %)

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      F_Req Flag      Applicable Software     Number of Systems
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      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             4367
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
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      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                11
                      Dutchie 2.90b
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      XC              Opus 1.1                       12
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      XP              Seadog                          7
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      XR              Opus 1.03                      78
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      XW              Fido >12M                     418
                      Tabby
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      XX              D'Bridge 1.30               4724
                      Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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      CrashMail capable =   4051 ( 36.32 %)
      MailOnly Nodes    =   5742 ( 51.48 %)
      Listed-Only Nodes =    844 (  7.57 %)

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