      F I D O N E W S         Volume 18, Number 25             18 Jun 2001 
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         Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  2
        COMPOSITION of a ONE DOLLAR BILL  .........................  2
     3. EDITORIAL  ................................................  4
        "Dead Horses" and "Wet Apes"  .............................  4
     4. EDITOR'S CORNER  ..........................................  6
        ?? ERN Charting Committee ??  .............................  6
     5. HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN  .....................................  8
        How Policy Begins & Why it won't change  ..................  8
        Policy Standards on "Dead Horses"  ........................  8
     6. COMIX IN ASCII  ........................................... 10
        Owls  ..................................................... 10
     7. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES  ...................................... 11
        ButtFirst  ................................................ 11
     8. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................................. 12
        Fidonet Software listing  ................................. 12
     9. FIDONET BY INTERNET  ...................................... 16
        Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 16
     10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  .................................... 22
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 22
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 23
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 24
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     Tact is the art of convincing people that they know more than you do.

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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
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                        COMPOSITION of a ONE DOLLAR BILL

                                From Ed Driver
                           wdbonner@pacbell.net

     Take out a one dollar bill and look at it. The one  dollar bill you're
     looking at first came off the presses in 1957 in its  present design.
     This so-called paper money is in fact a cotton and  linen blend, with
     red and blue  minute silk fibers running through it. It  is actually
     material.  We've  all  washed it without it falling apart.

     A  special blend of ink is  used, the contents we will never know. It
     is overprinted with symbols  and then it is starched to make it water
     resistant and pressed to give it that nice crisp look.

     If you look on the front of the bill, you will see  the United States
     Treasury Seal.  On the top you will see the scales for the balance --
     a  balanced budget.  In the center you have a  carpenter's T-square,
     a tool used for an even square cut.  Underneath is the Key  to the
     United States Treasury.

     That's all pretty easy to figure out, but what is on  the back of that
     dollar bill is something we should all know.  If you turn the bill
     over, you will see two circles Both circles,  together,  comprise the
     Great Seal of the United States. The First Continental  Congress
     requested that Benjamin Franklin and a group of men come up  with a
     Seal. It  took them four years to  accomplish this task and  another
     two years  to get it approved.

     If you look at the left hand  circle, you will see a  Pyramid.  Notice
     the face is lighted and the western side is  dark. This country  was
     just beginning. We had not begun to explore the  West or decided  what
     we could do for Western Civilization. The  Pyramid is uncapped,  again
     signifying that we were not even close to  being finished. Inside  the
     capstone you have the all seeing eye, and ancient symbol for divinity.
     It was Franklin's belief that one man couldn't do it alone, but a
     group of  men, with the help of God, could do anything.

     "IN GOD WE TRUST" is on this currency. The Latin  above the pyramid,
     ANNUIT  COEPTIS, means "God has favored our  undertaking." The Latin
     below the pyramid, NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM, means "a new  order  has
     begun."  At the base  of  the pyramid is the Roman Numeral  for 1776.
     If you look at the right-hand  circle, and check it carefully, you
     will learn that  it is on every National Cemetery in the United
     States. It is also on  the Parade of Flags Walkway at the Bushnell,
     Florida National Cemetery and is the centerpiece of most hero's
     monuments. Slightly modified, it is the seal of the President of the
     United States and it is always visible whenever he speaks, yet no one
     knows what the  symbols mean.

     The Bald Eagle was selected as a symbol for victory  for two reasons:
     first, he is not afraid of a storm; he is strong and  he is smart
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     enough to soar above it. Secondly, he wears no material  crown. We
     had just broken from the King of England. Also, notice the  shield is
     unsupported. This country can now stand on its own. At the top of
     that shield you have a white bar signifying congress, a unifying
     factor. We were coming together as one nation.  In the Eagle's beak
     you  will read, "E  PLURIBUS UNUM," meaning "one nation from many
     people."  Above  the Eagle you have thirteen stars representing the
     thirteen  original colonies,  and any clouds of misunderstanding
     rolling away.

     Again, we were coming together as one. Notice what  the Eagle holds in
     his talons. He holds an olive branch and arrows.  This country wants
     peace, but we will never be afraid to fight to  preserve peace. The
     Eagle always wants to face the olive branch, but in time  of war, his
     gaze turns toward the arrows.

     They say that the number 13 is an unlucky number.  This is almost a
     worldwide belief. You will usually never see a room  numbered 13,  or
     any hotels or motels with a 13th floor.

     But, think about this:

     13 original colonies,
     13 signers of the Declaration of Independence,
     13 stripes on  our  flag,
     13 steps on the Pyramid,
     13 letters in the Latin above,
     13 letters  in  "E PLURIBUS UNUM,"
     13 stars above the Eagle,
     13 plumes of feathers on each span of the Eagle's  wing,
     13 bars on that shield,
     13 leaves on the olive branch,
     13 fruits, and if you look closely,
     13 arrows.  :
     13th Amendment for the minorities.
      And 13 items in this list of items on the dollar bill.
     Do you know this?
     Do your children know this?
     Do History Teachers know and teach this?
     Too may veterans have given up too much to ever let  the meaning fade.
     Many veterans remember coming home to an America  that didn't care.
     Too many  veterans never came home at all.
     "IN GOD WE TRUST" & "GOD BLESS AMERICA"

     Note: Ol'wdb wants that all countries peoples feel the same for their
     country. submissions to Frank would be received with pleasure I am
     sure.  Some may feel this history reminder is ill placed, I beg that
     you remember what this country did not once but twice for other
     countries that they keep their boundaries and their freedom, and is
     still contributing to world peace in several places in the world.

     WDB

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                                 EDITORIAL
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                          "Dead Horses" and "Wet Apes"


      I direct your attention to the "Humor in a Fido Vein" section.
     Skip to that section first. Then come back here.



     Ok... Yeah, those are cute, and kind of funny, but they are also "too
     true"....

      We have an organization called Fidonet. It has what passes for a
     policy. It has members who thump (wank) policy and members who thump
     (wank) non policy. Those apes that want no policy are attacked by
     those that have always had policy. Those apes that have always had
     policy feel correct in their attack "Because that's the way it's
     always been around here.". Of course, there must be some kind of
     policy or guidelines or this Fidonet falls apart. The real problem
     is... The policy that passes in Fidonet doesn't work right. Why?

      It's out of date for the times. Get real, ZMH is not that critical
     now. Most traffic is done via the Internet. Yes, like it or not,
     Fidonet is part of the Internet which is just a big collection of
     nets. Crash Netmail, while still useful, is over rated. How often is
     it used? In some areas Crash mail is probably still used, but most
     files, Netmail and echomail go via the Internet in some form. Heck,
     the Fidonews is hatched out via an Internet link. But don't forget the
     apes. It is written that policy must be obeyed "Because that's the way
     it's always been around here.".

      So, why can't policy be changed??  Come on, do you want to get
     sprayed with cold water?!? That's what will happen if you try to
     change policy. Just ask the apes. It's was tried in the "FIDOECHOPOL"
     echo a long time back, a proposal was being worked on about a year or
     so ago for Policy5 and, most recently, an attempt was made in the
     "FIDOPOLS" echo. Guess what? Yup. That "cold water" and them apes got
     it then and again.

      I guess we're riding a "Dead Horse"here.... Speaking of which...

      Fidonet has three backbone mail systems in Zone1. Yes, three...
     Backbone.na, Backbone.zib and Backbone.ww. It seems that there is
     always a problem with someone or group there. I don't know about other
     Zones since they haven't spoken out. Maybe that "cold water" got them
     too? I just wonder why Fidonet needs three echomail distribution
     systems? Is it just because some can't work with others? Maybe it's
     just that they are "Providing additional Echos to feed the dead horse
     to increase performance". Maybe there have been some problems, but are
     three backbones the answer? It does seem that the apes who want to
     control these things continue to stop new apes from climbing them
     stairs "Because that's the way it's always been around here".

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     Please note that the "FIDOPOLS" echo is still around. Sure, it will
     die in time. One backbone will remove it for low traffic in time.
     Maybe others will for some reason(s) as well. Just another "dead
     horse" that was killed to be ridden.

      Speaking of horses again. I really can't wait until the next election
     in Zone1. Judging from past elections, there will be a lot of "dead
     horses" to ride. One thing is for sure, the best way to win an
     election is to be unknown... or have enough supporters to find more
     "dead Horses" for your opponents to ride than your opponents find for
     you to ride. Either way, if you're known to anyone, you can bet that
     all the "dead horses" you have ridden in the past will be brought back
     to you and there will be "bigger whips" for use on them as well as
     "new riders", "changing standards", attempts to "revive the dead
     horse(s)", "blaming", "harnessing several dead horses together" and
     all that other stuff. Of course, if there aren't enough "dead horses"
     for you to ride, someone will be happy to kill some new ones for you.
     Now, you try to say that you'll change policy, but watch out for that
     "cold water" and those apes that will attack you and don't *even*
     think of discussing things. Just get your flame proof underwear out
     and saddle that "dead horse" that you will be forced to ride.

      It's been said that Fidonet is dieing. Nodelist stats seem to agree.

      Maybe so.... with all them dead horses and wet apes around, it does
     smell in places. Of course, that banana has been hanging there for a
     while too. Yuck! Bet that's a little ripe! You can bet that this will
     never ever change because "This is the way we've always ridden dead
     horses". You can't change policy "Because that's the way it's always
     been around here".

      So what's the final score??  I don't know. You decide. Make it quick,
     before that final horse dies and that banana gets too much riper. Of
     course, you'd best watch out for that cold water and them wet apes.

      Just remember. When all else fails, "Blame the dead horse's parents".

      Me?? I say "Promote the dead horse to a *C position. :)

     Oops! Looks like this horse is dead. That's ok. I'll just keep going
     by "declaring that no horse is too dead to ride".

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                              EDITOR'S CORNER
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                          ?? ERN Charting Committee ??


      What is this ERN Charting Committee?

      Is this another group of apes reaching for that banana? Where are the
     old, experienced apes, that know that you can't get that banana?

      Maybe this is a group of apes with a new banana. Could be that they
     just want to put a new banana up for the old apes to look at. Of
     course, they could just be "riding a dead horse" in a different way.

      Anyway, I've received Netmail asking me about the routing in my Net.
     Why it was sent to me is unknown. I'm not the NC or the NEC. I do
     handle some of the "Routed Netmail" for my Net, but not the "Echo
     Routed Netmail" as far as I know.

      Still... It would be nice to know what the purpose of this
     "committee" is and what/why they are doing this. From what I Think I
     understand, they wish to remain anonymous and only one is willing to
     stand up and be counted for this endeavor. I guess that's ok... if
     that's what they want. Still, it does make one wonder....

     I've connected to the "Z1ROUTING" Echo and there has been at least one
     question from a Node in regards to who and what this "ERN Charting
     Committee" is.

      Kind of makes one wonder what the others have to hide, don't it?

      So, what is this ERN Charting Committee??  Which ape runs this? Is
     this a Backbone thing? If so, which one? Is this a "quality committee
     to find additional uses for dead horses"?

      Maybe they are just new apes that haven't learned to leave that
     banana alone "because that's the way it's always been done around
     here". Could be that they are "Harnessing several dead horses together
     to increase speed, efficiency and echo traffic".

     Is this something that Zone 1 has "cooked up"? What does the rest of
     Fidonet think of this?

      Is the sending of Netmails to people asking questions about who they
     route to and "private" links considered "annoying behaviour"?

      I don't know, but I would like to invite them to write an article for
     the Fidonews introducing themselves. If this "ERN Charting Committee"
     wants some validity, it won't happen if they hide behind one person
     and remain in the "backrooms" with no information given to the general
     Fidonet population as to what they are and what they are trying to do.

        For now, I think I'll start working on next week's Fidonews....

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                                BUTTFIRST! <BG>

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                           HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN
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                    How Policy Begins & Why it won't change

     Start with a cage containing five apes. In the cage, hang a banana on
     a string and put stairs under it. Before long, an ape will go to the
     stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches
     the stairs, spray all of the apes with cold water.

     After a while, another ape makes an attempt with the same result - all
     the apes are sprayed with cold water.

     Now, turn off the cold water.

     If later another ape tries to climb the stairs, the other apes will
     try to prevent it even though no water sprays them.

     Now remove one ape from the cage and replace it with a new one. The
     new ape sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his horror,
     all of the other apes attack him. After another attempt and attack, he
     knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.

     Next, remove another of the original five apes and replace it with a
     new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous
     newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm.

     Again, replace a third original ape with a new one. The new one makes
     it to the stairs and is attacked as well. Two of the four apes that
     beat him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs,
     or why they are participating in the beating of the newest ape.

     After replacing the fourth and fifth original apes, all the apes which
     have been sprayed with cold water have been replaced. Nevertheless, no
     ape ever again approaches the stairs. Why not?

     "Because that's the way it's always been around here."

             *THAT'S* how policy begins and *WHY* it won't change.

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                       Policy Standards on "Dead Horses"


           Dakota tribal wisdom says that when you discover that you are
     riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.

           In Fidonet we often systematically follow other strategies, as a
     matter of policy, to deal with dead horses. Our research has uncovered
     the following:


     1. Using a bigger whip.

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     2. Changing riders.

     3. Saying things like "This is the way that we've always ridden dead
     horses."

     4. Appointing a committee to study the dead horse.

     5. Arranging to visit other echos to see how they ride dead horses.

     6. Increasing (or lowering) the standards to ride dead horses.

     7. Appointing a *CC team to revive the dead horse.

     8. Creating a training session to increase ability to ride dead
     horses.

     9. Make rules declaring, by fiat, that the horse is not dead.

     10. Blaming the dead horse's parents.

     11. Harnessing several dead horses together to increase speed,
     efficiency and echo traffic.

     12. Declaring that no horse is too dead to ride.

     13. Providing additional Echos to feed the dead horse to increase
     performance.

     14. Do an Echo search to see if other Fidonet members are more capable
     of riding dead horses.

     15. Declare that horses are, in general, better, faster, stronger and
     cheaper when dead.

     16. Form a quality committee to find additional uses for dead horses.

     17. Revisit the original requirements for horses to see if dead horses
     were undervalued.

     18. Say the horse was procured by accedent as an independent variable.

     19. Blame the farm on which it was born.

     20. Promote the dead horse to a *C position.

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                              COMIX IN ASCII
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                                      Owls

         ___          ___           ___              ___          ___
        <+,+>        <@,@>         <*,*>            <-,->        <$,$>
        [`-']        [`-']         [`-']            [`-']        [`-']
        -"-"-        -"-"-         -"---            -"-"-        -"-"-
      drunk owl   owl junkie   one legged owl     shrewd owl   greedy owl


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                            CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
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                                 **BUTTFIRST**
                              wdbonner@pacbell.net

     I have a condition often found in folks of my age. The scientific
      world is frantically searching for a cure.

     This is an ailment many of us suffer from and may not as yet have
      been diagnosed. However, now you may be able to discuss it with
      your loved ones and try to explain what really happened to you all
      those times you tried so hard to accomplish something...

     It's call the "BUTTFIRST Syndrome."

     It's like when I decide to do the laundry - I start down the hall and
      notice the newspaper on the table. Okay, I'm going to do the laundry
      -- BUTTFIRST I'm going to read the newspaper.

     After that, I notice the mail on the table. Okay, I'll just put the
      newspaper in the recycle stack, BUTTFIRST I'll look through that
      pile of mail and see if there are any bills to be paid. Now where's
      the checkbook?

     Oops! There's the empty glass from yesterday on the coffee table. I'm
      going to look for that checkbook, BUTTFIRST I need to put the glass
      in the  sink.

     I head for the kitchen, look out the window, notice my poor tomatoes
      need a drink of water. I put the glass in the sink, and darn it,
      there's the remote for the TV on the kitchen counter. What's it
      doing here? I'll just put it away, BUTTFIRST I need to water those
      plants.

     Head for door and Ack! I stepped on the cat's tail. The cat needs to
      be fed. Okay, I'll put that remote away and water the plants.
      BUTTFIRST I need to feed the cat.

     At the end of day:  Laundry is not done, Newspapers are still on the
      floor, Glass is still in the sink, Bills are unpaid, Checkbook  is
      still missing, The cat ate and then dispursed kitty-litter on the
      floor around the litter box, and the remote control is in the sink
      with the glass.

     AND, when I try to figure out how come nothing got done all day, I'm
      baffled, because I KNOW I was BUSY ALL DAY!

     I realize this condition is serious....and I should get help,
      BUTTFIRST I think I'll read Fidonews and the e-mail.

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                         FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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     This list is up for adoption. If you are interested in producing,
     updating and submitting this list for publication, contact the Editor.


     The format of this list is currently;

     Name
     Internet address (if available)
     Fido style address (if available)

      This list is in no way complete. Additions and updates are welcome;
     mail to; flv@texoma.net

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                  BBS Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Buffalo Creek Software - Spitfire BBs
     http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

     The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
     http://www.elebbs.com/

     Hermes II Project (Mac)
     http://www.hermesii.org/

     MBSE BBS for Linux
     http://freezer-burn.org/mbse/

     The Official Mystic BBs Web Page
     http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/9426/index.html

     RemoteAcces BBs Software World Wide Sales and Support Site
     http://www.rapro.com/

     Renegade BBs Software
     http://www.egate.net/renegade/

     Through a Looking Glass Mirror Telegard Support
     http://www.telegard.net/

     The Maximus Home page
     http://oeonline.com/~garyg/maximus/

     BBBS Home Page
     http://www.bbbs.net/

     Synchronet BBS
     http://www.synchro.net

     Nexus Bulletin Board System
     http://www.nexusbbs.net/
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     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Door Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Shinning Star BBs Doors by Nannette Thacker
     http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

     Jibben Software
     http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

     Sunrise Door Software
     http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

     Vagabond Software
     http://vagabond.virtualave.net/

     Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
     http://lord.darktech.org/

     Trade Wars Door Game
     http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/

     JNS Software Door Games by Rusty Johnson
     http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

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                                  Mail Tossers
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     FMail Support
     http://fmail.nl.eu.org/

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                Mailer Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Definite Solutions - FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
     http://www.defsol.se/

     BeeMail Home Page
     http://www.bise.tzo.com/beemail/

     BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
     http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

     Santronics Software Inc.
     http://www.santronics.com/

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                         Fidonet via Internet Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Internet Rex (Internet mail software)
      http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

     Argus
     http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/

     Bink D
     http://2f.ru/binkd/
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     Fidonet to Internet Mailer
     http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

     TransX
     http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html

     Fidogate
     http://www.fidogate.org/

     Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
     http://www.tmail.spb.ru

     TransNet
     http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

     Watergate
     http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

     GiGo Software
     http://www.gigo.com/

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Point Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
     http://www.defsol.se/

     JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
     http://www.jetsys.de/

     APoint
     http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm

     CrossPoint
     http://www.crosspoint.de

     WinPoint95
     http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

     The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
     http://www.happyarts.de/xp

     Terminate Terminal
     http://www.terminate.com

     PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
     http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

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                      Other Software, Utillities and such
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     F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
     http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

     BGFAX Home Page
     http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/
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     SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
     http://www.gwinn.com

     NetModem for Windows
     http://www.allensoftware.com

     Com/IP
     <http://pcmicro.com/comip

     Husky - Portable Fido Software
     http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

     cFos Fossil driver
     http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

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     Parody:       http://www.fidonet.ro/
     Foti          http://www.thelitterbox.net/foti/
                   http://www.fidonet-on-the-internet.org
     History       http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/

     Zone 1:       http://www.z1.fidonet.org
       Region 10:  http://www.r10.org
         Net 102   http://home.earthlink.net/ kayshapero/net102.htm
         Net 103:  http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
         Net 203:  <vacant>
       Region 11:  http://oeonline.com/ garyg/region11/
       Region 13:  http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/
         Net 109:  http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/net109/
         Net 261:  http://www.baltimorepress.com/ net261/
         Net 275:  http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/
         Net 267:  http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/
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         Net 282:  http://www.rxn.com/ net282/
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       Region 17:  http://www.region17.net
         Net 140:  http://www.nwstar.com/ net140
       Region 18:  http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

       Region 19:  http://bise.tzo.com/r19
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         Net 124:  http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/
                   http://texoma.net/ flv
         Net 393:  http://www.chatter.com/ wb/

     Zone 2:       http://www.z2.fidonet.org
       Region 20:  http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
       Region 23:  http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

       Region 24:  http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
                   http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
         Fido-IP:  http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
       Region 25:  <Vacant>
       Region 26:  http://www.nemesis.ie
          REC 26:  http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
       Region 27:  http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
       Region 29:  http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/  (French)
                   http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
       Region 34:  http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm  (Spanish)
           REC34:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
       Region 36:  http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
       Region 38:  http://public.st.carnet.hr/ blagi/bbs/adriam.html
       Region 41:  http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
       Region 42:  http://www.fido.cz
          Net422:  http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
       Region 50:  http://www.fido7.com/  (Russian)
        Net 5010:  http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5015:  http://www.fido.nnov.ru/  (Russian)
        Net 5028:  HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/
        Net 5030:  http://kenga.ru/fido/  (Russian & English)
     ?? Net 5049:  http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org  (English/Russian)
        Net 5074:  http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net
     ?? Net 5085:  http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

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     Zone 4:
       Region 80:  http://fidobrasil.8m.com  (Portuguese)
       Region 90:
         Net 904:  http://members.tripod.com/ net904 (Spanish)

     Zone 5:       http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

     Zone 6:       http://www.z6.fidonet.org
       Region 65:  http://r65.yeah.net
                   http://www.cfido.com (Chinese)




                          Fidonet Via Internet Hubs


     a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
     address. The email is translated as follows
     firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
     appropriate individual's email.  Anyone in this list will
     FIDONEWS 18-25               Page 18                  18 Jun 2001


     also receive routed notice of this feature.

                v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com
                | email address or
     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     @ Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   @ Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   @ Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
       18/600   | Jerry Gause       | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      103/5     @ Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   @ Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   @ Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     @ Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    @ Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     @ Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 128k  | ???
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     @ Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   @ Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | ???   | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkD,FTP      | CABLE | n/c
      379/1     @ Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      393/9005  | Steve Quarrella  |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ???   | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkP VMoT FTP | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        | UUE            | 33.6  | $26/yr
      396/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   @ Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-25               Page 19                  18 Jun 2001


     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3651/9     @ Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Goran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BN IFCICO      | ???   | n/c
      221/360   @ Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   @ Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  @ Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   @ Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     @ Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/558   | Vlad Hrusca       | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Ofir Michaeli &   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-25               Page 20                  18 Jun 2001


     2411/413   @ Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   @ Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2476/419   | Tobias Ernst      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238    | Sergey Gubanov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   @ Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   @ Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
      905/100   | Fabian Gervan     | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k  | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 6
        65/3000      | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
        653/1009     | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
        654/0        | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
        654/1501     | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free


     --
     * FTP    = Internet File Transfer Protocol
     * VMoT   = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
     ----------------------------------------------
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                                 Nodelist Stats

      INPUT NODELIST FILE      : NODELIST.166
      File has a Date Stamp of :  6/15/2001
      File Size (uncompressed) :   1247.96 KBytes.

      The Input Nodelist file  has 11712 Nodes in it
      and a total of  14680 non-comment entries.

      The list has     6 Zones listed.
                      68 Region Coordinators listed.
                     507 Network Hosts listed.
                     798 Hubs listed.
                     421 DOWN Nodes listed.
                     808 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
                     360 HOLD Nodes listed.

      Administrative overhead = 1379 ( 11.77 %)
      PRIVATE NODES overhead  = 808 (  6.90 %)

      Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
                  9600 =  10061 (  85.90 %)
                        (HST's =  226 or   2.25 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                        (CSP's =    2 or   0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                        (PEP's =   20 or   0.20 % "        "    "     "   )
     FIDONEWS 18-25               Page 25                  18 Jun 2001


                        (MAX's =    0 or   0.00 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (HAY's =    6 or   0.06 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V32's = 5642 or  56.08 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V32B's =  845 or   8.40 % "       "    "     "   )
                        (V42's = 5225 or  51.93 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V42B's =  901 or   8.96 % "       "    "     "   )
                  2400 =    123 (  1.05 %)
                  1200 =      8 (  0.07 %)
                   300 =    545 (  4.65 %)

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      F_Req Flag      Applicable Software     Number of Systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             4775
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
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      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                12
                      Dutchie 2.90b
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      XC              Opus 1.1                       14
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      XP              Seadog                          6
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      XR              Opus 1.03                      80
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      XW              Fido >12M                     418
                      Tabby
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      XX              D'Bridge 1.30               4815
                      Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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      CrashMail capable =   4527 ( 38.65 %)
      MailOnly Nodes    =   5843 ( 49.89 %)
      Listed-Only Nodes =    862 (  7.36 %)

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