     The  F I D O N E W S      Volume 18, Number 41             08 Oct 2001 
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         Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.


                        Table of Contents
     1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT  .........................................  1
     2. GENERAL ARTICLES  .........................................  2
        An Introduction to the Pan American Mail System  ..........  2
        Pan American Backbone F.A.Q.'s  ...........................  3
     3. GUEST EDITORIAL  ..........................................  5
        FIDONET of MANY NATIONS  ..................................  5
     4. HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN  .....................................  9
        This Week's Virus Warning!  ...............................  9
     5. COMIX IN ASCII  ........................................... 11
        Famous Cows  .............................................. 11
     6. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES  ...................................... 12
        Joke 1  ................................................... 12
        Joke 2  ................................................... 12
        The First Pancake  ........................................ 12
     7. OTHER STUFF  .............................................. 13
        This week's Calendar  ..................................... 13
     8. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING  ................................. 14
        Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*  .......................... 14
     9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION  ..................................... 20
        How to Submit an Article  ................................. 20
        Fidonet-related sites  .................................... 21
        Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability  .................. 26
        Nodelist Stats  ........................................... 27
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                             FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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     Keep your eyes wide open before marriage, half shut afterwards.
                      --Benjamin Franklin

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                             GENERAL ARTICLES
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                An Introduction to the Pan American Mail System
                ***********************************************
                         From The Pan American Backbone

     Last week in the Fidonews, the editor wrote:

     "Zone1 has two echomail distributors. The Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) and
     the NAB (North American Backbone)".

     We thought it important to bring to the editor's attention that in
     fact, there are *three* "backbone" distributors in Zone 1. There are
     also other echomail distribution systems based in Zone 1, such as
     TFPDist, and Planet Connect.

     This is especially something that should interest the editor of
     Fidonews, as he himself in part provided some of the impetus to
     create this third backbone distribution system. A while back Frank,
     you challenged the members of Fidonet to come up with a different
     mail distribution system. Some of us heard you, and acted on your
     challenge. The result is the Pan American Mail System.

     Why another distro system? We were all independant hubs, not aligned
     with the NAB nor the Z1B, and we all shared the common view that the
     constant quarrels between the Z1B and the NAB were proving to be a
     detriment to mail moving in general in Fidonet. We felt that some of
     the hubs in those distribution systems were allowing politics and not
     the needs of their downlinks to decide on how they moved the mail.

     There were things that all of us did not like about the Z1B as well
     as the NAB, and we felt that together we can find a better way to
     serve our downlinks, by removing ourselves from the political debate
     and doing things differently than the NAB and Z1B have traditionally
     done things. An example of this is our "*.NA" type files. We actually
     produce *two* of these; one bearing the tag names of all echos that
     have shown recent posting activity (BACKBONE.PA), and a second that
     bears the tag names of echos which have been inactive for quite some
     time, or have only had robot postings for quite some time
     (BACKBONE.PA0). We carry all echos in both lists, but feel that this
     provides an easy way for our downlinks to see which echos they can
     expect to still be active.

     What follows is a FAQ file that is regularly posted in the
     PAN_AM_BACKBONE echo, a publically accessible echo provided for
     anyone participating in Fidonet to contact the Pan Am hubs for the
     purpose of discussing any Pan Am Backbone related issues. We welcome
     any suggestions, ideas for improvements and debates over the pros and
     cons of mail-moving practices past and present in that echo, provided
     such debates remain civil. We are open to new ideas, and do not wish
     to be bound in any way to the practices traditionally followed by the
     NAB and Z1B mail distribution systems.

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                         Pan American Backbone F.A.Q.'s
                         ******************************
                         From The Pan American Backbone

     This document seeks to answer questions that Fidonet members may ask
     about the Pan American Backbone mail distribution system.

      What is the Pan American Backbone?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     The Pan American Backbone is a loose association of Fidonet mail hubs
     who share a common philosophy towards mail moving. A Pan American mail
     hub's main concern should be for the needs and wishes of their
     downlinks. Pan American mail hubs strive to move the mail in the most
     efficient manner possible, regardless of political or personal
     differences.

      Who are the Pan American Backbone Hubs?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     PAB associated hubs are listed in the BACKSTAT.PA file. By agreeing to
     allow their name and node numbers to be listed there, those hubs
     indicate their membership in the Pan American Backbone.

      Does the PAB route Netmail?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     PAB associated hubs agree to route netmail to the best of their
     abilities for their downlinks, per the wishes of those downlinks. A
     PAB hub may reserve the right to refuse to route netmail which the hub
     feels is of an illegal or unethical form, or is sent from an
     unidentified source.

      Will the PAB honor moderator feed cuts?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     PAB associated hubs will honor requests for feed cuts from the echo
     moderator of record, as listed in the Echolist at the time of the
     request, provided such a request is properly submitted to the PAB.

      How do the PAB hubs decide on who they link with?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     It is the opinion of PAB hubs that no one knows any hub's system
     better than the operators of the hubs themselves. To that end, any
     meshing, linking and routing arrangements are left solely to the
     discretion and judgements of the individual hubs themselves. Fidonet
     is a peer-to-peer network, and any two systems may link to each other
     in any way they wish, provided they agree to the linking, and such
     linking does not cause problems for others.

      What echo areas does the Pan American Backbone carry?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     The PAB regularly releases two files bearing the tag names of the
     echos that are carried. The BACKBONE.PA file lists all echos with
     recent posting activity; a second file called BACKBONE.PA0 lists echos
     that the PAB does carry, but that have had no activity for at least 30
     days.

     Fidonet echo areas carried by the PAB are based on the listings of
     echo areas in the Echolist, and upon echos listed in any Zone 1
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     BACKBONE.* file. The PAB uses these databases as guides to create it's
     own list of echos carried. Provided any echos in these lists are
     denoted in the Echolist as distributed by Fidonet, and are not listed
     as "restricted" by the moderator, the PAB will add them to
     distribution. Restricted or non-echolisted echos, or any echos listed
     in any other lists may also be moved by the PAB upon request of the
     moderator to the PAB.

      How does the PAB decide what echos to drop from distribution?
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     Echo areas will be dropped when they are removed from the E-list by
     the moderator, or the moderator makes a request of the PAB to drop
     their echo(s) from PAB distribution, or if all downlinks of all PAB
     hubs choose to de-link the echo(s).

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                              GUEST EDITORIAL
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                            FIDONET of MANY NATIONS
                              wdbonner@pacbell.net

     Hello fidonetters of the world,
     Recent disclosures of a world wide network of individuals bent on the
     destruction of democracy and enslavement of every nation on earth to
     the eventual rule of it's own code of worship and way of life; prompt
     me to remind you that Fidonet News is apart of most all of these
     nations, and must accept it's responsibility to inform it's members.
     This isn't about politics as practiced in any nation, it is about our
     freedoms of speech, liberty, and life as we know it today. Fidonet
     News is a form of free speech.  Some countries already disallow BBSes
     or networking of any kind by individuals.

     Here's a message that came across my desk that I found to be very
     interesting reading.  I think the author did an excellent job
     explaining what we're facing militarily.  I do take exception to one
     point that is about our soldiers conducting "search and destroy"
     throughout the "20" countries, (actual number is much greater than
     that), where terrorist cells live and work.  The author fails to
     address that this "new war" will be fought not by the military alone,
     but by every citizen of all countries. Law enforcement throughout the
     world will have to work "hand in glove" with all citizens.  In fact,
     while our military is deploying to get ready to fight, law enforcement
     officials have already begun the fight.  This war will be fought in
     the media, banks, non-government organizations and at the diplomatic
     level, but most importantly by the citizen-- you and me.  And if
     fought well on each level the need for major military battles will be
     lessened, many lives saved, and success more readily achieved.

     Ol'wdb

     ----Original Message-----
     Subject:   A message worth reading.....and repeating.....

     For your information:  An academic advisor at the Air Force Academy
     wrote the following, which we believe everyone should read.

     From:    Dr. Tony Kern, Lt. Col, USAF (Ret)

     Recently, I was asked to look at the recent events through the lens of
     military history, and I have joined the cast of thousands who have
     written an "open letter to Americans."

     Dear friends and fellow Americans                 14 September 2001

     Like everyone else in this great country, I am reeling from last
     week's attack on our sovereignty. But unlike some, I am not reeling
     from surprise.

     As a career soldier and a student and teacher of military history, I
     have a different perspective and I think you should hear it. This war
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     will be won or lost by the American citizens, not diplomats,
     politicians or soldiers.

     Let me briefly explain.

     In spite of what the media, and even our own government is telling us,
     this act was not committed by a group of mentally deranged fanatics.
     To dismiss them as such would be among the gravest of mistakes.  This
     attack was committed by a ferocious, intelligent and dedicated
     adversary.  Don't take this the wrong way. I don't admire these men
     and I deplore their tactics, but I respect their capabilities.

     The many parallels that have been made with the Japanese attack on
     Pearl Harbor are apropos. Not only because it was a brilliant sneak
     attack against a complacent America, but also because we may well be
     pulling our new adversaries out of caves 30 years after we think this
     war is over, just like my father's generation had to do with the
     formidable Japanese in the years following WW II.

     These men hate the United States with all of their being, and we must
     not underestimate the power of their moral commitment. Napoleon,
     perhaps the world's greatest combination of soldier and statesman,
     stated "the moral is to the physical, as three is to one."  Patton
     thought the Frenchman underestimated its importance and said moral
     conviction was five times more important in battle than physical
     strength. Our enemies are willing-better said anxious -- to give their
     lives for their cause.

     How committed are we America? And for how long?

     In addition to demonstrating great moral conviction, the recent attack
     demonstrated a mastery of some of the basic fundamentals of warfare
     taught to most military officers worldwide, namely simplicity,
     security and surprise. When I first heard rumors that some of these
     men may have been trained at our own Air War College, it made perfect
     sense to me. This was not a random act of violence, and we can expect
     the same sort of military competence to be displayed in the battles to
     come.

     This war will escalate, with a good portion of it happening right
     here in the good ol' U.S. of A. <"Take out the strongest player">.

     These men will not go easily into the night.  They do not fear us. We
     must not fear them.  In spite of our overwhelming conventional
     strength as the world's only "superpower" (a truly silly term), we are
     the underdog in this fight. As you listen to the carefully scripted
     rhetoric designed to prepare us for the march for war, please realize
     that America is not equipped or seriously trained for the battle
     ahead.  To be certain, our soldiers are much better than the enemy,
     and we have some excellent "counter-terrorist" organizations, but they
     are mostly trained for hostage rescues, airfield seizures, or the
     occasional "body snatch," (which may come in handy).  We will be
     fighting a war of annihilation, because if their early efforts are any
     indication, our enemy is ready and willing to die to the last man.
     Eradicating the enemy will be costly and time consuming. They have
     already deployed their forces in as many as 20 countries, and they are
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     likely living the lives of everyday citizens.  Simply put, our
     soldiers will be tasked with a search  and destroy mission on multiple
     foreign landscapes, and the public must be patient and supportive
     until the strategy and tactics can be worked out.

     For the most part, our military is still in the process of redefining
     itself and presided over by men and women who grew up with - and were
     promoted because they excelled in - Cold War doctrine, strategy and
     tactics.

     This will not be linear warfare, there will be no clear "centers of
     gravity" to strike with high technology weapons.

     Our vast technological edge will certainly be helpful, but it will not
     be decisive.  Perhaps the perfect metaphor for the coming battle was
     introduced by the terrorists themselves aboard the hijacked aircraft-
     this will be a knife fight, and it will be won or lost by the
     ingenuity and will of CITIZENS and soldiers, not by software or smart
     bombs. We must also be patient with our military leaders. Unlike
     Americans who are eager to put this messy time behind us, our
     adversaries have time on their side, and they will use it.  They plan
     to fight a battle of attrition, hoping to drag the battle out until
     the American public loses its will to fight.

     This might be difficult to believe in this euphoric time of flag
     waving and patriotism, but it is generally acknowledged that America
     lacks the stomach for a long fight.  We need only look as far back as
     Vietnam, when North Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap  (also a
     military history teacher) defeated the United States of America
     without ever winning a major tactical battle.  American soldiers who
     marched to war cheered on by flag waving Americans in 1965 were
     reviled and spat upon less than three years later when they returned.

     Although we hope that Usama Bin Laden is no Giap, he is certain to
     understand and employ the concept.  We can expect not only large doses
     of pain like the recent attacks, but also less audacious "sand in the
     gears" tactics, ranging from livestock infestations to attacks at
     water supplies and power distribution facilities.

     These attacks are designed to hit us in our "comfort zone" forcing the
     average American to "pay more and play less" and eventually eroding
     our resolve. But it can only work if we let it.  It is clear to me
     that the will of the American  citizenry - you and I - is the center
     of gravity the enemy has targeted.  It will be the fulcrum upon which
     victory or defeat will turn.  He believes us to be soft, impatient,
     and self-centered.  He may be right, but if so, we must change.  The
     Prussian general Carl von Clausewitz, (the most often quoted and least
     read military theorist in history), says that there is a "remarkable
     trinity of war" that is composed of the (1) will of the people, (2)
     the political leadership of the government, and (3) the chance and
     probability that plays out on the field of battle, in that order.

     Every American citizen was in the crosshairs of last Tuesday's attack,
     not just those that were unfortunate enough to be in the World Trade
     Center or Pentagon.  The will of the American people will decide this
     war.  If we are to win, it will be because we have what it takes to
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     persevere through a few more hits, learn from our! mistakes,
     improvise, and adapt.

     If we can do that, we will eventually prevail.  Everyone I've talked
     to In the past few days has shared a common frustration, saying in one
     form or another "I just  wish I could do something!"  You are already
     doing it. Just keep faith in America, and continue to support your
     President and military, and the outcome is certain.

     If we fail to do so, the outcome is equally certain.

     God Bless America

     Dr. Tony Kern, Lt. Col, USAF (Ret)
     Former Director of Military History, USAF Academy

     *****************************************************
     APPROVED FOR REDISTRIBUTION - 19 Sep 01
         <<< MRGRG - Alabama >>>
     Thank you for your attention to today's most serious threat to our
     freedoms as one of many countries under attack.

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                           HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN
     =================================================================

                           This Week's Virus Warning!
                       fidonet@powersthatwannabe.or.else

                          This is no joke! It's real!!

      This has been verified by the "powers that wanna be". A virus is
     going around Fidonet.

      The origin of this virus is known to be from all Zones and even
     "Othernets". That's right! It is true!!

      This virus infects your Echomail and is very clever. All that is
     required to activate this virus is to read an Echomail message from
     someone outside of your Zone, Region or Net.

      This virus originated when Zones, Regions and Nets wanted control of
     Fidonet for themselves. The virus is so constructed that it is not
     visible and can't be read by Nodes or Users from the Zone, Region or
     Net that it originates from. In this way, the virus can't infect it's
     own.

      The most common effect of this virus is to start a "flame war"
     between Fidonet members. This "flame war" is then escalated by
     variations of the virus contained in reply messages to others. The
     reply messages may be read by the Fidonet member(s) that sent the
     original virus and members of their own Zone, Region or Net. This is a
     flaw in the virus since it can then infect the members of the
     originator's Zone, Region or Net and cause "flame wars" within any
     Zone, Region or Net thereafter. There is a variation of this virus
     that reconstructs replies to cause those in the originator's Zone,
     Region or Net to sympathize with the originator and therefore reply
     with more virus infected message to other Zones, Regions or Nets and
     propagate the "flame war" to even greater extremes.

      In rare cases, generally when a Sysop or User actually prints a hard
     copy of the virus infected message, it can be spread throughout your
     family. This is especially true if your family is into reading Fidonet
     messages and participating in Fidonet Echomail.

     BEWARE!

      The variations of this virus are too many to list. Your best bet is
     to isolate yourself from all other Zones, Regions and Nets except for
     your own. This is recommended by the "powers that wanna be". NEVER
     read or reply to any message from someone outside your Zone or Region
     and use care when reading messages from outside your Net.


     This is serious folks!
     If you are believing this, I'm sure there are several bridges and some
     swamp land in many parts of the world for sale _REAL_ cheap. :-))

     FIDONEWS 18-41               Page 10                   8 Oct 2001


     <chuckle>

      Frank 1:124/6308(.1)

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                              COMIX IN ASCII
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                                  Famous Cows
                                              /\                  __
                                             /  \                 ||
                  (__)                 (__)  \  /               (_||_)
                  SooS                 (oo)   \/                 (oo)
           /------S\/S          /-------\/    /S          /-------\/
          / |     ||           / |     ||    /  S        / |     ||
         *  ||----||          *  ||----||___/    S      *  ||----||
            ^^    ^^             ^^    ^^                  ^^    ^^
         This cow belonged     Ben Franklin owned       Abe Lincoln's
       to George Washington       this cow                   cow

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                            CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
     =================================================================

                                     Joke 1
                   From: Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>

     I was on a flight to Hong Kong once. The flight would be seven hours
     long, so I decided to get some shuteye. I was soon awakened by the
     stewardess, who asked me if I would like some dinner. I said, "What
     are my choices?" And she said, "Yes or no."

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                                     Joke 2
                   From: Warren Bonner <wdbonner@pacbell.net>

     Worried that his son was spending too much money on dates, a Father
     asked the boy how much his last date had cost.

     The son calculated a minute then replied, "Oh, about $15 or so I
     think."

     "Well," said the Father, "I'm proud of you for finally coming up with
     an inexpensive evening."

     "To be honest Dad," the son went on, "we'd have done more, but that
     was all the money she had."

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                               The First Pancake

     A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin, 5, and Ryan, 3.
     The boys began to argue over who would get the first pancake. Their
     mother saw the opportunity  for a moral lesson. "If Jesus were sitting
     here, He would say 'Let my brother have the first pancake, I can
     wait.' Kevin turned to his younger brother and said, "Okay Ryan, you
     be Jesus!"

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                                OTHER STUFF
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                              This week's Calendar

     Day     Event
     -------------------------------------------------------------------
     8
         Battle of Angamos in Peru
         Columbus Day in United States
         Mother's Day in Malawi
         Thanksgiving in Canada
     9
         Army Day in Azerbaijan
         Independence Day in Uganda
         Independence of Guayaquil in Ecuador
         Korean Alphabet Day in Korea, South
         Leif Erikson Day in United States
     10
         Druger Day in South Africa
         Fiji Day in Fiji
         Health and Sports Day in Japan
         Moi Day in Kenya
         Oklahoma Historical Day in United States (Oklahoma)
     11
         Anniversary of the Beginning of the Wars of Independence in Cuba
     12
         Battle of Sarandi in Uruguay
         Columbus Day in Argentina
         Columbus Day in Argentina
         Columbus Day (Dia de la Raza) in Honduras
         Columbus Day (traditionally) in United States
         Columbus Day/Dia de la Raza in Costa Rica
         Day of Liberation from the French in Laos
         Dia de la Raza in Colombia
         Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Mexico
         Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Venezuela
         Dia de la Raza/Discovery of America in Uruguay
         Discovery Day in Bahamas
         Independence Day/National Day? in Equatorial Guinea
         National Day in Spain
         Our Lady Aparecida Day in Brazil
     13
         St. Edward's Day in United Kingdom
     14
         Children's White Sunday in Western Samoa
         National Day in Yemen Democratic Republic
         National Day/Revolution Day 1963 in Yemen Arab Republic
         Petkouden in Bulgaria
         Svetitskhovloba in Georgia

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     =================================================================
                         FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
     =================================================================

                        *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                  BBS Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     BBBS Home Page
     b@bbbs.net
     http://www.bbbs.net/

     ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
     elebbs@elebbs.com
     http://www.elebbs.com/

     Hermes II Project (Mac)
     info@HermesII.org
     http://www.hermesii.org/

     Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
     sales@lainus.com
     http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

     MBSE BBS
     Michiel Broek + development team
     mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
     http://mbse.sourceforge.net
     2:2802/2 Michiel Broek.

     Mystic BBS
     http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

     Nexus Bulletin Board System
     groberts@nexusbbs.net
     http://www.nexusbbs.net/

     Proboard
     Telegrafix Communications Inc.
     info@telegrafix.com
     540-678-4050
     http://www.telegrafix.com

     RemoteAccess Central
     Bruce Morse
     bfmorse@rapro.com
     http://www.rapro.com/

     Searchlight
     Telegrafix Communications Inc.
     info@telegrafix.com
     540-678-4050
     http://www.telegrafix.com

     Spitfire BBS
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     Buffalo Creek Software
     MDWoltz@AOL.COM
     http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

     Synchronet BBS
     sysop@vert.synchro.net
     http://www.synchro.net

     Telegard BBS
     support@telegard.net
     http://www.telegard.net/

     Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
     Santronics Inc.
     sales@santronics.com
     (305)248-3204
     http://www.santronics.com

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Door Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Bentstone Capabilities Group
     info@stonebenders.com
     http://www.srupc.com/mall

     Jibben Software
     scott@jibben.com
     http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

     JNS Software Door Games
     Rusty Johnson
     rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com
     304-733-0113
     http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

     Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
     http://www.lordlegacy.org/

     PC Pursuits
     brucep@pop.kis.net
     (301)240-6653
     http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

     S and T Software
     Mark Bappe
     mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net
     (770)788-6843
     http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

     Shinning Star BBS Doors
     nannette@shiningstar.net
     http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

     Sunrise Door Software
     Al Lawerence
     al@sunrisedoors.com
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     (404)256-9518
     http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

     The Brainex System
     info@brainex.com
     http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

     Trade Wars Door Game
     jpritch@eisonline.com
     http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
     1:299/110

     Vagabond Software
     Bryan Turner
     vagabond@darktech.org
     http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
     1:124/7013

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                                  Mail Tossers
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                                Mailer Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
     Definite Solutions
     sales@defsol.se
     http://www.defsol.se/


     BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
     http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

     Plantinum Express for Wildcat
     Santronics Inc.
     sales@santronics.com
     (305)248-3204
     http://www.santronics.com

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                         Fidonet via Internet Software
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     Argus
     RITLABS
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     373-2-246889
     http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
     2:469/84

     BinkD
     maloff@corbina.net
     FIDONEWS 18-41               Page 17                   8 Oct 2001


     http://2f.ru/binkd/

     Fidogate
     Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net
     http://www.fidogate.org/

     Fidonet to Internet Mailer
     Bo Bendtsen
     sales@terminate.com
     http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

     GiGo Software
     http://www.gigo.com/

     Internet Rex
     cruden@cs.ualberta.ca
     http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

     Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
     http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

     TransX
     Multiboard Communications Inc.
     support@multiboard.com
     http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
     1:2401/305

     TransNet
     transnet@ressl.com.ar
     http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

     Watergate
     ramon@sbbs.se
     http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                 Point Software
     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
     Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
     http://www.defsol.se/

     JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
     http://www.jetsys.de/

     APoint
     http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
     http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

     CrossPoint ("Original" version)
     http://www.crosspoint.de
     http://www.apoint-mail.de

     CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
     http://www.openxp.com (English)
     http://www.openxp.de (German)

     FIDONEWS 18-41               Page 18                   8 Oct 2001


     CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
     http://www.xp2.de

     WinPoint95
     http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

     The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
     http://www.happyarts.de/xp

     Terminate Terminal
     http://www.terminate.com

     PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
     http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

     -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                      Other Software, Utillities and such
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     F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
     http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

     BGFAX Home Page
     http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/

     SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
     http://www.gwinn.com

     NetModem for Windows
     http://www.allensoftware.com

     Com/IP
     <http://pcmicro.com/comip

     Husky - Portable Fido Software
     http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

     cFos Fossil driver
     http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

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     FIDONEWS 18-41               Page 19                   8 Oct 2001


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     FIDONEWS 18-41               Page 21                   8 Oct 2001


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                          Fidonet Via Internet Hubs


     a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
     address. The email is translated as follows
     firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
     appropriate individual's email.  Anyone in this list will
     also receive routed notice of this feature.

                v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com
                | email address or
     Node#      | Operator          | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
                |                   |                |latency|
     -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
     Zone 1     |                   |                |       |
       10/3     @ Brenda Donovan    | FTP,UUE,BinkP  | 384K,30| n/c
       10/345   @ Todd Cochrane     | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,!  | n/c
       18/500   @ Ross Cassell      | FTP, BinkP     |128K+,!| n/c
       18/600   | Jerry Gause       | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      103/5     @ Mark Luetger      | BinkP          | CABLE | n/c
      103/301   @ Joe Jared         | BinkP,FTP,NFS  | 384k,!| n/c
      103/401   @ Warren Bonner     | BinkP          | aDSL,!| n/c
      105/8     @ Russ Johnson      | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k  | n/c
      105/72    @ Larry James       | FTP, BinkP     | aDSL  | $50/yr
      106/1     @ Steve Loupe       | BinkP, FTP     | 128k  | ???
      106/2000  | Bob Juge        | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ???   | n/c
      106/6018  | Lawrence Garvin   | FTP, VMoT      | aDSL,60| n/c
      107/453   @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
      1:134/11  @ Michael Grant  | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
                                                    aDSL, 60 | n/c
      138/146   | Marc Blakely      | BinkP,FTP      | ???   | n/c
      140/1     @ Bob Seaborn       | FTP,BinkP      | T3,30 | $5/$16
      142/906   | Chris Griffin     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      150/220   | Dave Nemeth       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      153/7715  | Dallas Hinton     | BinkD, FTP     | CABLE | ???
      167/133   | Stephen Monteith  | BinkP          | 128k+ | n/c
      167/166   | Jesse Dooling     | POP? UUE TX FTP| ???   | n/c
      218/109   @ Matt Munson       | BinkP,UUE,TX   | 33.6k | n/c
      220/10    | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
      229/1     | Phil Simpson      | BinkP UUE FTP  | ???   | n/c
      229/2000  | Robert Couture    |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ???   |
      229/622   | Dave Hamilton     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      249/116   | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE    |ADSL,60 | n/c
      250/98    | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      250/99    | Brent McLaren     | FTP BinkP      | ???   | n/c
      250/102   | Darin McBride     | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      267/169   | Philip Lozier     | FTP TX         | ???   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-41               Page 24                   8 Oct 2001


      261/1380  | Joe Davis         | UUE TX         | ???   | n/c
      280/169   | Brian Greenstreet | FTP            | 33.6  | $2mo.
      297/11    | Michael McCabe    | TX             | ???   | n/c
      323/120   | Craig Healy       | VMoT FTP       | ???   | n/c
      342/3     @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP      | 128K+ | n/c
      360/5     | Bennie Hutto      | FTP VMoT       | aDSL  | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkD,FTP      | CABLE | n/c
      379/1     @ Dale Ross         | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
      379/1200  | Chris Cranford    | BinkP FTP TX   | ???   | n/c
      393/9005  | Steve Quarrella  |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ???   | n/c
      395/670   | Arthur Stark      | BinkP VMoT FTP | ???   | n/c
      396/45    | Marc Lewis        | UUE            | 33.6  | $26/yr
      396/48    | Ben Ritchey       | UUE:BFDS?      | 33.6k | n/c
     2215/300   | Dennis Haddox     | UUE,TX         | CABLE | n/c
     2320/38    | Janis Kracht      | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
     2410/400   | Gary Gilmore      | FTP BinkP      | 384K,60| n/c
     2410/213   | Kevin Bentz       | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
     2604/104   @ Jim Mclaughlin    | FTP,VMoT,UUE   | 33.6  | $1mo
     2624/306   | David Calafrancesco  | VMoT        | 33.6  | n/c
     3613/1275  | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP    | 28.8  | n/c
     3407/4     | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3632/84    | Robert Todd    |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
     3651/9     @ Jerry Gause       | FTP,VMoT       | 33.6  | $3/$6
     3830/5     | Jeff Schrunk      |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 2     |
       20/11    | Henrik Lindhe     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       22/222   | Kim Heino         | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       28/1     | Lody Caenen       | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
       31/1     | Gabriel Plutzar   | BinkP          | T1+   | n/c
       37/37    | Gabor Z. Papp     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
       47/999   | Andrej Kirejev    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      201/329   | Mats Wallin       | VMoT TX        | ???   | n/c
      201/505   | Goran Eriksson    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      203/600   | Mikael Karlsson   | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      211/37    | Torbjorn Mohn     | BN IFCICO      | ???   | n/c
      221/360   @ Tommi Koivula     | BinkP,UUE      | ???   | n/c
      236/205   @ Michael Kaaber    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      240/6298  | Steve Tell        | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
      246/2098  | Volker Imre       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      252/110   | David Rance       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      255/90    | Simon Avery       | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      263/950   | Sean Rima         | TX UUE         | ???   | n/c
      280/1027  | Lukas de Groen    | BinkP FTP      | ???   | n/c
      280/1601  @ Jeroen VanDeLeur  | FTP,UUE        | 64k   | n/c
      280/4312  | Jos Huijnen   | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ???   | n/c
      280/5003  | Kees van Eeten    | BinkP ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      292/620   | Eddy Missoul      | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k   | n/c
      292/624   | Steven Leeman     | UUE            | 64k   | n/c
      292/854   | Ward Dossche      | BinkP UUE TX   | ???   | n/c
      292/907   | Bart Verhaeghe    | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K   | n/c
      292/2003  | Eric Vaneberck    | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      301/1     | Peter Witschi     | BinkP          | 768k  | n/c
      332/807   | Roberto Mascolo   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      333/0     | M Gianformaggio   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      335/534   @ Mario Mure        | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k   | n/c
     FIDONEWS 18-41               Page 25                   8 Oct 2001


      335/610   | Gino Lucrezi      | UUE            | 33.6  | n/c
      341/14    | Rafael Suarez     | BinkP VMoT     | ???   | n/c
      341/51    | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT           |       |
      341/66    | Angel Ripoll      | VMoT           |       |
      343/168   | Jose Casanova     | VMoT           |       |
      344/201   | Julio Garcia      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      346/3     @ Carlos Navarro    | UUE            | ???   | n/c
      347/1     | Javi Polo         | UUE            |       |
      348/105   | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE      |       |
      382/100   | Sinisa Burina     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/555   | Ofir Michaeli     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/557   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      400/558   | Vlad Hrusca       | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Ofir Michaeli &   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      406/555   | Marius Kaizerman  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      423/81    | Milos Bajer       | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/256   | Andrew Rutkas     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
      461/640   | Alex Semenyaka    |BinkP ifcico UUE| ???   | n/c
      465/204   | Va Milushnikov    | BinkP          | 33.6k | n/c
      469/84    | Max Masyutin      | VMoT           | 256k  | n/c
      469/128   | Oleg Vasenyoff    | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
      480/112   | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k  | n/c
      550/4077  | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE            | ----- | n/c
     2410/201   | Karsten Ebeling   | BinkP UUE      | ???   | n/c
     2411/413   @ Dennis Dittrich   | UUE,BinkP      | 64k   | n/c
     2432/200   | Sven Dueker       | BinkP TX UUE   | ???   | n/c
     2446/301   @ Lothar Behet  | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K   | n/c
     2474/275   | Christian Emig    | UUE            | 64k   | unkn
     2487/3000  | Steffen Gross     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     3830/10    | Matt Bedynek      | FTP, BinkP     | 100Mb | n/c
     5002/5002  | Victor Belyakov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5014/4     | Alex Bagmanov     | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/52    | Peter Didenko     | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/54    | Serge Wizgounoff  | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5020/69    | B Chernivetsky    | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/238    | Sergey Gubanov   | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/115   | Andrey Podkolzin  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5030/1251  | K Stepanekov      | UUE            | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5020/1159  | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE          | 33.6  | n/c
     5049/12    | Amir Shabashvili  | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5054/3     | Andrew Popov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5080/80    | Eugene Zorin      | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5083/21    | Alexander Uskov   | BinkP,ifcico   | ???   | n/c
     5090/2     | Andrew Titov      | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     5100/8     | Egons Bush        | BinkP          | ???   | n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 3
      633/260   @ Malcolm Miles     | FTP,BinkP      | 64K   | n/c
      640/954   | Rick Van Ruth     | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
      712/311   | Bob James         | TX             | ???   | n/c
      774/605   @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
     --------------------------------------------------------------
     Zone 4
      801/161   @ Renato Zambon     | UUE            | 33.6  |n/c
      902/18    | Javier Tejedor    | UUE            | 33,6  | n/c
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     Zone 6
       65/3000  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE            | 33600 | free
      653/1009  | Maorong Chen      | UUE            | ???   | free
      654/0     | Bin Li            | UUE,BinkP      | 33600 | free
      654/1501  | Lawrence Fan      | UUE,BinkP      | 28800 | free

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     * UUE    = uuencode<->email type transfers
     * BinkP  = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
     * TX     = TransX
     * NFS    = Linux Networking
     * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
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     room #fidonet  5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
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                                 Nodelist Stats

      INPUT NODELIST FILE      : NODELIST.278
      File has a Date Stamp of : 10/4/2001
      File Size (uncompressed) :   1206.59 KBytes.

      The Input Nodelist file  has 11123 Nodes in it
      and a total of  14204 non-comment entries.

      The list has     6 Zones listed.
                      67 Region Coordinators listed.
                     499 Network Hosts listed.
                     764 Hubs listed.
                     372 DOWN Nodes listed.
                     852 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
                     521 HOLD Nodes listed.

      Administrative overhead = 1336 ( 12.01 %)
      PRIVATE NODES overhead  = 852 (  7.66 %)

      Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
            9600 =   9544 (  85.80 %)
                        (HST's =  206 or   2.16 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                        (CSP's =    2 or   0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
                        (PEP's =   16 or   0.17 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (MAX's =    0 or   0.00 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (HAY's =    3 or   0.03 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V32's = 5403 or  56.61 % "        "    "     "   )
     FIDONEWS 18-41               Page 28                   8 Oct 2001


                        (V32B's =  681 or   7.14 % "       "    "     "   )
                        (V42's = 5134 or  53.79 % "        "    "     "   )
                        (V42B's =  734 or   7.69 % "       "    "     "   )
            2400 =    114 (  1.02 %)
            1200 =      8 (  0.07 %)
             300 =    495 (  4.45 %)

     ----------------------------------------------------------
      F_Req Flag      Applicable Software     Number of Systems
     ----------------------------------------------------------
      XA              Frontdoor <1.99b             4348
                      Frontdoor  2.02+
                      Dutchie 2.90c
                      Binkleyterm >2.1
                      D'Bridge <1.3
                      TIMS
     --------------------------------------
      XB              Binkleyterm 2.0                11
                      Dutchie 2.90b
     --------------------------------------
      XC              Opus 1.1                       12
     --------------------------------------
      XP              Seadog                          7
     --------------------------------------
      XR              Opus 1.03                      79
     --------------------------------------
      XW              Fido >12M                     417
                      Tabby
     --------------------------------------
      XX              D'Bridge 1.30               4716
                      Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
     --------------------------------------

      CrashMail capable =   4030 ( 36.23 %)
      MailOnly Nodes    =   5735 ( 51.56 %)
      Listed-Only Nodes =    846 (  7.61 %)

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