:Ch4r!Ch4r@aol.com PRIVMSG #lecture :are you gonna give me some stupid error message? :Ch4r!Ch4r@aol.com PRIVMSG #lecture :no? :Ch4r!Ch4r@aol.com PRIVMSG #lecture :ok, good :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture ::) :Ch4r!Ch4r@aol.com PRIVMSG #lecture :let's go :Ch4r!Ch4r@aol.com MODE #lecture -o Ch4r :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Alright, so, last time we discussed "Reasoning". (among other things ;P) :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :This time, we are going to discuss a test that all of you already heard about. :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :Turing? :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :It is a test that "measures" your intelligence. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Now, do you know what it is? :) :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :me and my complications -_- :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :the IQ test :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :indeed :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :So, a quick approach : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Firstly, intelligence is hard to define. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :It can NOT be compared. :Daedalus!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl JOIN :#lecture :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :We can NOT base our judgements upon it only. :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-41645BC0.w83-192.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #lecture :lol, of course :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :The IQ, i.e. the Intellectual Quotient, is one of the ways to evaluate the intelligence. :Daedalus!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :hey guys, joining in.. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :But, the 'General' intelligence. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net MODE #lecture +m :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :So, it is only an indirect measure, and.. not perfect. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :The reliability of this test has been estimated at >70%. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :"I.Q." is the generic term used since 1912, to denote the different tests of intelligence, or to denote the result one obtained to these tests. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :There are several types of IQs, which give different marking schemes. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :An example : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :To join Mensa(http://www.mensa.org/), you must have at least : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :* An IQ of 131 at the Wechsler, which is equivalent to :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :* An IQ of 149,6 at the Catell and, :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :* corresponds to (approx.) 20 people out of 100 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :* i.e. 2% of the people.. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :out of 1000 sorry :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Now, let's introduce the principle of the IQ : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :it is born in the USA during the WW1 in order to try and give the recruits the arms that suited them best. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :The series of tests relies on the one created by the french doctor Binet. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :So, you'll wonder : but, what do they test? :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Several intellectual abilities : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :*to solve problems :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :*to reason :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :*to understand concepts :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :*to perceive relations :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :4 main categories : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :1/ Spatial vision : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :visualize and manipulate objects in 3D :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :2/ Mathematical spirit : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Solve problems and use logic. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :3/ Linguistic expression : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Find back sentences, recognize words. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :4/ Memory : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Memorize objects visually and orally. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net MODE #lecture -m :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :anyone? :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :it's been clear up to now :Ch4r!Ch4r@aol.com PRIVMSG #lecture :yep :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :okee, I go on then. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net MODE #lecture +m :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Now, let us study the results of this test (statitically) : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :statistically* :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :People who have an IQ greater than : - Percentage :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :70 - 97.7 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :85 - 84 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :100 - 50 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :110 - 25 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :115 - 16 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :120 - 7 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :130 - 2.3 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :So, what can we say with this? :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :the average is at 100. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :2 people out of 3 have an IQ between 85 and 115. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Some geniuses are >140. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Now, since you're probably interested in knowing the people who have a big IQ, I made a quick list for you : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Thomas Jefferson : 145 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Benjamin Franklin : 145 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Mozart : 150 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :George Sand : 150 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Lord Byron : 150 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Charles Dickens : 155 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Voltaire : 170 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Thomas Chatterton : 170 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Descartes : 180 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :John Stuart Mill : 190 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Pascal : 195 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :· Goethe :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :210 .. :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-10EF4191.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#lecture :Ch4r!Ch4r@bu-BBA3FD18.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#lecture :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :for more : http://hem.bredband.net/b153434/Index.htm :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net MODE #lecture -m :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Feel free to discuss those IQs. :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :DAMN!!! :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :and i thought my 148 was good :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :it definitely is ;) :Ch4r!Ch4r@bu-BBA3FD18.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #lecture :lol :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :the only problem with Pascal is naming the language :D :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :well, compared to those... :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i mean like, 210... wow :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :I feel stupid.. :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :*sob* :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :I have a question: :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :yeah.... Einstein was *only* around 160 ... :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :yes, go on Agony :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :most of them on that list were very dead long before WWI :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :so how would you rate their IQ? :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-10EF4191.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #lecture :why do we say that Einstein's IQ was about 160? he nerver did a test :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :how do you know he didn't Elda? :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i personally don't know, i just like people citing their sources :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :<[Ag0ny]> most of them on that list were very dead long before WWI :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :<[Ag0ny]> so how would you rate their IQ? :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :--> that is an excellent question :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :to be honest, I think these are "estimated" IQs :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-10EF4191.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #lecture :I don't know if such tests existed but I don't think :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-10EF4191.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #lecture :yes it's just estimation :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :it might be the case with Einstein as well :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :Einstein had a preponderant paper in WWII, how didn't it exist :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-10EF4191.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #lecture :so it's a bit unusefull to say it was about 160, it's not the reality :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :It's estaminated, I think they didn't just made it up Elda, Ag0ny. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :you may want to read : http://www.geocities.com/einstein_library/iq.htm :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :it's the same as with chess ratings :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :Paul Morphy played before FIDE, but there are estimates based on his games :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :(and he rocked too) :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :exactly. :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :ok :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :anything else? :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :not here :Ch4r!Ch4r@bu-BBA3FD18.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #lecture :nope :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :the different scales, :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :is there one that is used as a standard in the US? :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :and is it different in the UK? :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :I do not know. :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :k I'll looki t up :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :okee :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :well, let's go on :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net MODE #lecture +m :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :Now, I want to focus on two curious cases. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :These people are probably geniuses, with an extremely high IQ, but, it is controversed.. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :the 1st case is : William James Sidis (1898 - 1944) :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :his IQ was >225 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :he was probably the greatest mind of the 20th century, but he refuses to make the whole world benefit of it. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :That's why he's unknown for most people.. :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :a quick summary of his life : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :at 1.5 years, he could read the newspaper :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :2 years : begins to study latin :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :7 : exam on anatomy :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :16 : gets a degree at Harvard :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :24 : treaty on antimatter :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :27 : treaty on cosmology predicting black holes :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :to read the full list of his exploits : http://www.quantonics.com/The_Prodigy_Review.html :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :the 2nd case is : Marilyn vos Savant :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :an IQ >228 :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :able to solve the Rubik's cube extremely fastly :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :was in the Guinness of records as the highest IQ :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net MODE #lecture -m :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :"Billy knew all the languages (approximately 200) of the world, and could translate among them instantly!" :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :that's relating to Sidis :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :yeah.. :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i can't see how the hell he mastered Gray's Anatomy :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i have it here and i couldn't read 2 followed pages :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i do admire the pictures :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :That's a book? I only knew the serie.. :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :yeah it's a book :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :ah.. two way's of spelling gray grey. :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :I :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :You.... :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :I've heard that the learning patterns formed before age six shape your entire intellecutal life :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :sorry typos abound today :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :let me draw a comparison: i learnt calculus at 9/10; "At age 8, Billy surpassed his father (a genius) in mathematics." :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :hahaha :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :sweet :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :Ag0ny: i've heard there's a tendency of regression to the mean with IQs :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :in your childhood it's bigger :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :I'm 15, and still way behind on SysSpider. :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :perhaps that's due to your ingenuity and simplicity of thinking :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :lol Nick :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :Sysspider, you already have learned calculus? :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :yes :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :multivariable? :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :nope :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i actually dropped it for programming... :O :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i learnt the basics :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :learn multivariable, it's usefull for writing programs and understanding graph theory :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :oh i see, i'll do it then :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :sorry we're off on a tangent :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :but please qwerty, go on :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :anyhow, qwertydawom :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :no no, feel free to discuss :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :that's it for now :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :I'll just give you a few links :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :ok :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :ah ok :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :so, go on ;) :Ch4r!Ch4r@bu-BBA3FD18.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #lecture :short lecture ;o :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :Savant, was she actually autistic? I've never looked it up :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :well i was saying children might have a bigger IQ due to their ingenuity and simplicity of thinking :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :Ag0ny: nope, she even has a column in Parade :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :ah ok :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :anyhow SysSpider I agree with you about regression :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i wonder if those people with huge IQs have them for keeping that simplicity :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :adults have learned to think within certain bounds :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :yeah :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :they're conditioned to certain inconscious rules :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :for example, Einstein got to relativity through a disarmingly simple thought: how to go along with a ray of light :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :that's something a kid may imagine :Nick!Nick@bu-A29A1893.cable.casema.nl PRIVMSG #lecture :I think complex and chaotic, often locks my brain up. >_> :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :i believe he lost that at the last years of his life :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :agreed, but the child wouldn't have necessarily appied mathematics to it as a valid solution :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :sure :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :except Sidis perhaps ;) :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :I think the transition is simplified in this: :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :generally they wouldn't indeed, but the thought could lead them to deeper theories, once they grew up :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :and were mature enough the take thoughts ahead :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :adults learn new methods of communication, but they become satisfied with a level that they still may not be comfortable in :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :of course :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :and, it is clear that some ideas might come from the children :[Ag0ny]!Kaz@bu-D9CC5B8F.dhnet.ufl.edu PRIVMSG #lecture :to an adult well versed in mathematics and theories revelant to the field, there is a comfort level that they posess in manipulating numbers and applying theories :SysSpider!SysSpider@spies.over.your.shoulder PRIVMSG #lecture :we can draw a comparison with the process of teaching someone :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :to illustrate this, I know a teacher (in the US - he teaches at the MIT), this guy is really awesome :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :and, he once told me that his own daughter :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :(who's only 4) :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :(he was explaining her what prime numbers wereà :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :)* :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-10EF4191.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #lecture :lol :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-10EF4191.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #lecture :excellent :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :He was showing her the Sieve of Eratosthenes, and they were looking for prime gaps of length 2, 4, 6, .... :Elda_Winslacks!loulou@bu-10EF4191.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #lecture :(could I ask you what your parent do? I think I never did it) :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :then she asked : :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :(maybe less formally, but still ;)) :qwertydawom!qwertydawo@bu-61EE8C6D.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #lecture :if p_k is the k-th prime number,