Session Start (freenode:#interdictor-chat): Fri Sep 02 01:25:01 2005
2005.09.02 [01:25] *** Initial topic: (Link: http://nola-intel.org)http://nola-intel.org for INFO | This channel for chatter, go nuts, stay off politics/flamewars/phone numbers or be banned
2005.09.02 [01:25] *** #interdictor-chat: zeroday postmodern starkravingblah roo9 ramza3 Punt parawing742 ChatUser x222943 kingemer britepink_ IRCMonkey TexasEMT newzero kelchyn ben name red6 checkercab cswanson ruck asdfasdf meacan Aleithilithos ddrllama matty Zanix illuminarok fork_ Legend j_ Annon201 eh-wire shibbbers kenta3 resistor valmont rick-orlando adownie steeled n00bmaster goofey doll`parts nysin williaty zardinuk wll64 asd127 ii ommegang n3ckf pepperoni `Dolphin 
2005.09.02 [01:25] *** #interdictor-chat: Scotro don-o falcontx azoca [EH]MysticSeance Heph CollinT soverc markvd Reggy Code_Dark cstine eason @Wohali MalcoveMagnesia TheBeanie Cyc66 Irony_ Loki39a bob_beb cvE mechan0id Cenobyte Hermitty aztennenbaum Cass furiousxgeorge jconway963 VonGuard goomba dcuny argeto yume_no_hikari joeldg WillySilly sent avyakata cshado saltcreek Ubitsa @kow^ cybersaga ebola|goBush_lol declan Galrahn kenta2 toddmori pheldan meteors Rocker20 NotJust4Breakfas 
2005.09.02 [01:25] *** #interdictor-chat: tristanb SimonPhotography BlackLotus JackNothing332 ivan` Q_Continuum ScaryFast zjohnson Staplegun Cowface ahecht Shiawase FCYTravis intabaja eric axonal w0rd coe jeff Cellulaer kyhwana steve_k JupiterCo RomanCAT cryptonomicon Kirtan emitecaps Jumper_New_PC cestlaguerre gentoo_junkie Remog RossUber oral_b ssss Midas Crusoe Zaknafin buddylazier sys0p cyphase silas Gomi calwatch davidc_ caferace @CoolMoDee blanu seanbonner [StS]thecarguy 
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2005.09.02 [01:25] *** #interdictor-chat: vashti ColloquySucks will-h pussfeller Encapsulate @colin_ Kheirag dieman skep @kow|wk niftybitch princessfroz Nite_Hawk silver_whisper PxM tamara_ danknerd thies SW-Ray hand Lyssia +ProcrasT8 ctstalker windy Sefriel WeyrNet-James bagpuss_thecat @michaelloftis Chimi kampf @Textral Padathir @Amish_Hooker @Soms 
2005.09.02 [01:25] ii: snax sucks
2005.09.02 [01:25] *** #interdictor-chat was created on Thu Sep 01 18:35:06 2005.
2005.09.02 [01:25] buddylazier: Brazos valley 4 lyfe
2005.09.02 [01:25] snax: bite me
2005.09.02 [01:25] postmodern: CSMan, i use mplayer on amd64
2005.09.02 [01:25] SwK_: n00bmaster: that morse sounds like a repeater ID or comming online
2005.09.02 [01:25] postmodern: CSMan, it wouldn't play
2005.09.02 [01:25] asdfasdf: :P i'm in killeen Buddylazier
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2005.09.02 [01:25] zardinuk: coal ruins the air forever, killing babies and puppies
2005.09.02 [01:25] CSMan: it does =)
2005.09.02 [01:25] * EviL_SmUrF lives in the brazos valley
2005.09.02 [01:25] n00bmaster: ok, thats what i thought
2005.09.02 [01:25] avyakata: haha
2005.09.02 [01:25] buddylazier: college station, here
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2005.09.02 [01:25] EviL_SmUrF: same here :)
2005.09.02 [01:25] snax: ii: why would you say that?
2005.09.02 [01:25] postmodern: CSMan, also the use of proprietary codecs without licensing is illegal
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2005.09.02 [01:25] asdfasdf: cool :)
2005.09.02 [01:25] IRCMonkey: Opinion needed: I have vbulletin set up on one of my sites, not being used. Would it be tacky/etc to offer it for this interdictor thing?
2005.09.02 [01:25] jconway963: postmodern you can with noatun and the right codec
2005.09.02 [01:25] avyakata: coal is one to thirteen parts per million ... uranium
2005.09.02 [01:25] ii: bites snax... spits out in disgust
2005.09.02 [01:25] rick-orlando: The left channel is on "search mode" and grabs a repeater id once in a while...
2005.09.02 [01:25] acidstars: not puppies!
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2005.09.02 [01:25] ahecht: Which of the scanner feeds has right and left channels?  All the ones I am seeing are mono.
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2005.09.02 [01:25] * EviL_SmUrF lives on richards street
2005.09.02 [01:25] avyakata: we put 25 tons of bomb grade uranium into the air in fly ash every single yaer
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2005.09.02 [01:25] Wohali: ircmonkey:  We have resources right now on (Link: www.nola-intel.com)www.nola-intel.com
2005.09.02 [01:25] Mechcozmo: i bet the fire kills thousands
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2005.09.02 [01:26] johnboy: hello everyone
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2005.09.02 [01:26] postmodern: jconway963, don't use kde
2005.09.02 [01:26] * snax slaps ii around a bit with a large trout
2005.09.02 [01:26] acidstars: what fire?
2005.09.02 [01:26] JupiterCo: where is the fire?
2005.09.02 [01:26] Mechcozmo: in the Superdome or whatever it is
2005.09.02 [01:26] k037: umm
2005.09.02 [01:26] ii: yeah... what fire?
2005.09.02 [01:26] postmodern: jconway963, but the point is WMV3 dosn't run on amd64
2005.09.02 [01:26] avyakata: and the non bomb grade uranium occasionally gets turned into plutonium by cosmic rays
2005.09.02 [01:26] n00bmaster: the fire at convention center
2005.09.02 [01:26] zardinuk: avyakata: ends up back in the ground
2005.09.02 [01:26] ii: dude, dont just start rumors, ok??
2005.09.02 [01:26] JupiterCo: SNAX: Slap me
2005.09.02 [01:26] Mechcozmo: Aster-: report of a fire at the convention center but we gots units coming from uptown we got (unt) there gonna patch them in from (unt)
2005.09.02 [01:26] asdfasdf: They had fire's this morning - I'm sure more will come.
2005.09.02 [01:26] Mechcozmo: from the scanner
2005.09.02 [01:26] acidstars: ah, the infamous internet relay trout
2005.09.02 [01:26] goofey: acidstars: there's a report of a fireworks started fire inthe convention center
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2005.09.02 [01:26] * snax slaps JupiterCo around a bit with a large trout
2005.09.02 [01:26] * JupiterCo slaps snax right back. [JupiterCo] is using his Channel Slap Defense V. 1.01
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2005.09.02 [01:26] johnboy: just told by a friend that the pics of looting, direcNIC.com Versus Looters, where in the central business district
2005.09.02 [01:26] BeanFriedPork: Anyone else up for a healthy game of TroutSlapping?
2005.09.02 [01:26] asdfasdf: My bet is the center will be burnt to a crispt
2005.09.02 [01:26] johnboy: near the superdome
2005.09.02 [01:26] JupiterCo: ;-)
2005.09.02 [01:26] ii: hah! u got any links?
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2005.09.02 [01:26] shibbbers: like is there just smoke or like the building is on fire?
2005.09.02 [01:26] * snax falls off chair
2005.09.02 [01:26] |SAB|Urs_wrk: radio feed said it was fireworks
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2005.09.02 [01:26] jconway963: i don´t do amd or gnome
2005.09.02 [01:26] FCYTravis: Bennyfactor: Where is Empire in relation to New Orleans?
2005.09.02 [01:26] * JupiterCo laughs
2005.09.02 [01:26] mathx:  need volonteers to transcribe if you type fast in #interdictor-scanner2 please!
2005.09.02 [01:26] * snax falls off chair...laughing
2005.09.02 [01:27] buddylazier: Sumi!
2005.09.02 [01:27] goofey: shibbbers: sofar - just reports of smoke
2005.09.02 [01:27] buddylazier: Das ist klar
2005.09.02 [01:27] NotJust4Breakfas: The looters can redeem themselves by icing Dumbya when he visits tomorrow.
2005.09.02 [01:27] ahecht: Which of the scanner feeds has right and left channels?  All the ones I am seeing are mono.
2005.09.02 [01:27] avyakata: empire is in the middle of that 'toe' that sticks out into the gulf
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2005.09.02 [01:27] avyakata: (Link: http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/089M29C_KATRINA.HTM)http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/089M29C_KATRINA.HTM
2005.09.02 [01:27] bennyfactor: NASA sat image gulf region: (Link: http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2005242-0830/Louisiana.A2005242.1645.721.250m.jpg)http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2005242-0830/Louisiana.A2005242.1645.721.250m.jpg
2005.09.02 [01:27] n00bmaster: did you guys hear one of the evacuation buses broke down
2005.09.02 [01:27] avyakata: Empire is up and right corner of that picture
2005.09.02 [01:27] ramza3: who are the ops
2005.09.02 [01:27] buddylazier: Pres. Cheney
2005.09.02 [01:27] mathx:  
2005.09.02 [01:27] mathx: for details on scanner feeds, etc hit (Link: http://nola-intel.org)http://nola-intel.org
2005.09.02 [01:27] buddylazier: sounds awesome
2005.09.02 [01:27] mathx:  
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2005.09.02 [01:27] TexasEMT: Snax: Where did you hear that Austin sent out a call for all available certified medical personnel?
2005.09.02 [01:27] zardinuk: cheney will whoop your ass
2005.09.02 [01:27] EviL_SmUrF: buddylazier: haha thats funny as hell. what are the odds of someone living in the same city showing up in the same IRC channel
2005.09.02 [01:28] Darkest_Ancient: I really love the media... "should officials in NO have been MORE prepared?"   UH, ill take "even a remote semblance of a clue which is now painfully and obviously missing"
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2005.09.02 [01:28] rick-orlando: (Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Main_Page)http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Main_Page
2005.09.02 [01:28] sent: EviL_SmUrF: um, high.
2005.09.02 [01:28] ii: very high oods actually
2005.09.02 [01:28] ahecht: I went through all the feeds on in the wiki, but all of the ones I could access were mono
2005.09.02 [01:28] BeanFriedPork: Yay. Presiden Cheney. We lose President Alfred E. Newman, but get a president who might as well be the villain in a James Bond movie.
2005.09.02 [01:28] SwK_: someone go ahead and hire haliburton already
2005.09.02 [01:28] resistor: is there any way i can donate bandwidth/hosting to the effort?
2005.09.02 [01:28] Alizar: Folks, we need some more people in interdictor-scanner2 to help transcribe the scanner stuff.
2005.09.02 [01:28] Sad_and_Angry: Lafayette newb checking in...amazing stuff here...I'm beginning to think this Internet thingie may catch on.
2005.09.02 [01:28] crschmidt: ahecht: check under Radio_Info
2005.09.02 [01:28] zardinuk: the villain who can type with one hand?
2005.09.02 [01:28] CSMan: this is the one (Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Radio_Info)http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Radio_Info
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2005.09.02 [01:28] rick-orlando: I'm on one fot eh first two feeds listed.  Been here two hours, so... Might be full.
2005.09.02 [01:28] crschmidt: Alizar: there is no reason that there should be two scanner channels
2005.09.02 [01:28] ii: resistor - u can donate couple of capacitors and 1 IC board
2005.09.02 [01:28] EviL_SmUrF: not really :S, how do u figure its high? not THAT many people out of the general population even know what IRC is
2005.09.02 [01:29] JupiterCo: no kidding
2005.09.02 [01:29] Alizar: crschmidt: One for right chan and one for left
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2005.09.02 [01:29] zardinuk: I got a box of old CD's I can donate
2005.09.02 [01:29] bennyfactor: There are two scanner irc channels for the two scanner radio channels
2005.09.02 [01:29] JupiterCo: lessn than .02% of the US population know what IRC is
2005.09.02 [01:29] BeanFriedPork: 1% is being generous. I don't think anywhere close to 3 million Americans know what IRC is.
2005.09.02 [01:29] crschmidt: Alizar: right. Except someone is already transcribing the left chan into scanner
2005.09.02 [01:29] sent: hmm
2005.09.02 [01:29] crschmidt: and the right chan is the same as the original feed
2005.09.02 [01:29] sent: can someone do national guard ops?
2005.09.02 [01:29] sent: or security?
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2005.09.02 [01:29] britepink_: anyone checked out the NOLA craigslist.org thousands of people offering places to stay and jobs
2005.09.02 [01:29] Alizar: crshmidt: Talk to the ops in the second chan, Textral just asked me to come in here and ask for help
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2005.09.02 [01:29] zjohnson: CNN was talking about how reporters on the scene were using a new technology F.T.P. to give reports.
2005.09.02 [01:30] n00bmaster: lol
2005.09.02 [01:30] britepink_: new huh
2005.09.02 [01:30] BeanFriedPork: LOL
2005.09.02 [01:30] WillySilly: lol
2005.09.02 [01:30] Sad_and_Angry: heh
2005.09.02 [01:30] buddylazier: smurf: I'd say the odds aren't bad if you're 1) an SA forum-goer or 2) nerdy (lots of nerds in town)
2005.09.02 [01:30] WillySilly: 'new'
2005.09.02 [01:30] BeanFriedPork: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2005.09.02 [01:30] * Darkest_Ancient sighs
2005.09.02 [01:30] jconway963: lol
2005.09.02 [01:30] acidstars: ive missed irc.
2005.09.02 [01:30] p8001: haha new technology
2005.09.02 [01:30] Fergasun: haha
2005.09.02 [01:30] shibbbers: ftp is hot
2005.09.02 [01:30] ahecht: ahh, thanks
2005.09.02 [01:30] checkercab: hehe
2005.09.02 [01:30] zardinuk: *sigh* for CNN
2005.09.02 [01:30] checkercab: "this email, does it work on the internet?"
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2005.09.02 [01:30] n00bmaster: lol
2005.09.02 [01:30] bennyfactor: Ftp is so totally 25 years ago, the new thing is definately UUCP
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2005.09.02 [01:30] BeanFriedPork: That's the first time I've laughed in hours.
2005.09.02 [01:30] Irony_: has anyone heard about the west bank ?
2005.09.02 [01:30] * checkercab does a quick archie lookup
2005.09.02 [01:30] bennyfactor: I put a bunch of words behind an exclamation mark and I send mail
2005.09.02 [01:30] postmodern: what scanners are you using?
2005.09.02 [01:30] buddylazier: of the Dead Sea?
2005.09.02 [01:30] jconway963: ./configure --path=cnn/has/no/skills/
2005.09.02 [01:30] Heph: I don't remember the quote including "new"
2005.09.02 [01:30] postmodern: IComs?
2005.09.02 [01:30] p8001: GOPHER
2005.09.02 [01:30] buddylazier: heh
2005.09.02 [01:30] bennyfactor: But it's not like throught the post office or anything
2005.09.02 [01:30] ii: ok
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2005.09.02 [01:30] johnboy: yeah Irony_, I have friends that live there
2005.09.02 [01:30] BeanFriedPork: What about the West Bank? Something happen there?
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2005.09.02 [01:31] ii: whoa!!
2005.09.02 [01:31] postmodern: IComs?
2005.09.02 [01:31] Irony_: what part of the west bank ?
2005.09.02 [01:31] postmodern: what scanners are you using?
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2005.09.02 [01:31] BeanFriedPork: I mean, other than the scheduled pullouts of Israeli settlements...
2005.09.02 [01:31] n3ckf: what are the scanners linked into?
2005.09.02 [01:31] checkercab:  /bin/rm -R "thepress"
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2005.09.02 [01:31] jconway963: lol
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2005.09.02 [01:31] Irony_: johnboy:  what part of the west bank ?
2005.09.02 [01:31] zardinuk: the settlers over there are going "stupid hurricane! Pay attention to us!"
2005.09.02 [01:31] checkercab: or, the ever popular mv "thepress" /dev/null
2005.09.02 [01:31] Frungy: oh ho ho linux jokes
2005.09.02 [01:31] britepink_: any idea what they are doing on the cam? ok what i meant to say is, what is michael reading?
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2005.09.02 [01:31] ii: checkercab is n=checkerc@pool-70-17-92-58.res.east.verizon.net (checkercab)
2005.09.02 [01:31] ii: checkercab is in the following rooms: interdictor-chat
2005.09.02 [01:31] ii: checkercab is using the server irc.freenode.net ((Link: http://freenode.net/)http://freenode.net/)
2005.09.02 [01:31] jconway963: rm -a /cnn/fox/bush/
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2005.09.02 [01:31] CSMan: the scanners are a pretty nice way to bring clean info
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2005.09.02 [01:32] don2: when is directnic's ipo?
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2005.09.02 [01:32] * ghussey wonders what he can do to help
2005.09.02 [01:32] TexasEMT: Asdfasdf: Where did you hear about a call for available EMS personnel?
2005.09.02 [01:32] johnboy: Irony_, check on PM
2005.09.02 [01:32] kaosrain: does anyone know how I can get to new orleans to help?
2005.09.02 [01:32] buddylazier: (Link: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=18151)http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=18151
2005.09.02 [01:32] n00bmaster: yes, not that crap that we get throgh media channels
2005.09.02 [01:32] buddylazier: wow
2005.09.02 [01:32] rick-orlando: The scanners are f-ing awesome.
2005.09.02 [01:32] Fergasun: These scanners are about 1/20th of what is going on...
2005.09.02 [01:32] Jerub: can someone voice me in #interdictor
2005.09.02 [01:32] postmodern: im wondering what software you are using the scanners
2005.09.02 [01:32] buddylazier: maybe it is the end times
2005.09.02 [01:32] postmodern: i was beting IComs
2005.09.02 [01:32] Irony_: i didn't get one
2005.09.02 [01:32] Jerub: rick-orlando: yeah, I was transcribing last night when this was still deadjournal
2005.09.02 [01:32] ii: rm jconway963 && rm all-smart-asses
2005.09.02 [01:32] postmodern: very nice scanners for military/commerical/inudstrial purposes
2005.09.02 [01:32] CSMan: Fergasun: but cnn et all are 1/100th
2005.09.02 [01:32] postmodern: and nautical
2005.09.02 [01:32] ghussey: kaosrain, it's unsafe unless you go with a swat team
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2005.09.02 [01:32] bennyfactor: Can anybody confirm the Empire thing? I can only find outline maps of plaquemines, and then those partially-obscured NASA sat photos
2005.09.02 [01:32] zardinuk: kaosrain: hop on your bike and start peddling
2005.09.02 [01:33] BeanFriedPork: the dudes on the cam seem happy all of a sudden...
2005.09.02 [01:33] Jerub: rick-orlando: hearing about the fire at the superdome and stuff..
2005.09.02 [01:33] bennyfactor: And I'm defianately more familliar with the other end of the missisippi
2005.09.02 [01:33] Fergasun: CSMan: True, but I'm saying there's still a whole bunch of stuff we're not hearing
2005.09.02 [01:33] Darkest_Ancient: deadjournal is an aptly ironic name given the nature of the calamity and NO and the insane activity these various IRC channels are getting
2005.09.02 [01:33] checkercab: if anyone here want's to help and have a chance at getting into NO, the Red Cross is taking any volunteers it can get for disaster relief
2005.09.02 [01:33] CSMan: Fergasun: true
2005.09.02 [01:33] avyakata: hrm volunteer
2005.09.02 [01:33] avyakata: I am slow next week, and I'm a HAM
2005.09.02 [01:33] rick-orlando: I fired up the ham station, but my antennas suck...
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2005.09.02 [01:33] Irony_: what pm ?
2005.09.02 [01:33] zardinuk: does this mean no mardi gras this year?
2005.09.02 [01:33] asdfasdf: checkercab - then tell the red cross to accept the 25 EMS we want to send
2005.09.02 [01:33] Darkest_Ancient: uh, yes, at least a traditional one
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2005.09.02 [01:33] n3ckf: i could help transcribe scanners if needed.
2005.09.02 [01:33] FCYTravis: this means no nothing... heh.
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2005.09.02 [01:34] CSMan: what are they using to stream online ? icecast?
2005.09.02 [01:34] BlackLotus: Good Lord, zardinuk.
2005.09.02 [01:34] BlackLotus: Take a wild guess.
2005.09.02 [01:34] zardinuk: you know if this happened during mardi gras, there would be topless bodies everywhere
2005.09.02 [01:34] FCYTravis: I was scheduled to be in New Orleans at the end of next month
2005.09.02 [01:34] n00bmaster: yep
2005.09.02 [01:34] roo9: f~zardinuk: it may possibly mean no more mardi-gras .
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2005.09.02 [01:34] CSMan: n3ckf: there's help needed in -scanner2
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2005.09.02 [01:34] n00bmaster: icecast 2.2
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2005.09.02 [01:34] wankle: mardi gras?
2005.09.02 [01:34] FCYTravis: there was a journalism convention set for the Hyatt Superdome
2005.09.02 [01:34] wankle: they're moving it up 2 months
2005.09.02 [01:34] JupiterCo: Zard...not funny
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2005.09.02 [01:34] FCYTravis: over Halloween weekend
2005.09.02 [01:34] BlackLotus: How.. tasteless, zardinuk.
2005.09.02 [01:34] buddylazier: anybody know if Tunica got hit hard?
2005.09.02 [01:34] shibbbers: I bet over half the city moves away
2005.09.02 [01:34] wankle: because the rebuilding effort is going to go so well!!@#
2005.09.02 [01:34] n3ckf: can someone msg me how to connect to the scanner feed?
2005.09.02 [01:34] BeanFriedPork: Maybe they could just have Mardi Gras in Miami this year, with open container laws and hedonism fully intact....
2005.09.02 [01:34] buddylazier: I doubt it
2005.09.02 [01:34] shibbbers: permanently
2005.09.02 [01:34] JupiterCo: if i had ops, you'd be out Zard
2005.09.02 [01:34] zardinuk: sorry
2005.09.02 [01:34] FCYTravis: I stayed there a couple years ago...
2005.09.02 [01:34] BlackLotus: Word.
2005.09.02 [01:34] FCYTravis: very eerie to see it utterly destroyed
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2005.09.02 [01:34] johnboy: Irony_ the west bank is literally that... the west bank of the miss... it is heavily populated
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2005.09.02 [01:34] Irony_: i know where it is
2005.09.02 [01:34] checkercab: where are your EMS personnel? and can they get to a red cross office closer to the problem? I'll be they're much more likely to accept them there
2005.09.02 [01:35] JupiterCo: have a buddy that just started his 1st year at Loyola ....
2005.09.02 [01:35] isb: cool
2005.09.02 [01:35] bennyfactor: Well the french quarter is mainly above water still, right?
2005.09.02 [01:35] Irony_: i'm wonderin what happened to it
2005.09.02 [01:35] BlackLotus: I'd like to access the scanners.. is that possible?
2005.09.02 [01:35] johnboy: what do you want to know about it?
2005.09.02 [01:35] asdfasdf: checkercab - we are 300 miles out in texas
2005.09.02 [01:35] johnboy: I heard it's okay
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2005.09.02 [01:35] Irony_: they don't show the neighborhoods on tv
2005.09.02 [01:35] BlackLotus: Is anyone from here *from* Lousiana?
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2005.09.02 [01:35] BeanFriedPork: The French Quarter was the least affected.
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2005.09.02 [01:35] Encapsulate: bennyfactor: The french quarter is a 16 square block tourist trap.
2005.09.02 [01:35] BlackLotus: I know I asked before.
2005.09.02 [01:35] bennyfactor: So everybody can still act in a vaguely humorous and otherwisely hedonistic manner there
2005.09.02 [01:35] Irony_: or if there has been looting there
2005.09.02 [01:35] asdfasdf: Our city officals have been turned down over and over today
2005.09.02 [01:35] isb: BlackLotus
2005.09.02 [01:35] johnboy: I asked my g/f about our mutual friends there and she said they were okay
2005.09.02 [01:35] Encapsulate: bennyfactor: But yea... it's there
2005.09.02 [01:35] joeldg: french quarter is dry
2005.09.02 [01:35] postmodern: anyone know if there's news blackouts in place?
2005.09.02 [01:35] BlackLotus: I thought the French Quarter was under water.. ?
2005.09.02 [01:35] bennyfactor: I figured as such
2005.09.02 [01:35] Alizar: BlackLotus: Yes, join interdictor-scanner or interdictor-scanner2.  You can even help transcribe in scanner2 if you like, heh.
2005.09.02 [01:35] CSMan: BlackLotus: (Link: http://ev1helps.net:8000)http://ev1helps.net:8000
2005.09.02 [01:35] JupiterCo: (Link: http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM)http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM        <<<<<<<<            check the Fr. QTR for yourself
2005.09.02 [01:35] BlackLotus: It is?  Amazing..
2005.09.02 [01:35] postmodern: for what is ok and not ok to cover about the aftermath
2005.09.02 [01:35] wankle: encapsula: thank you for that useless opinion
2005.09.02 [01:35] checkercab: if there weren't two little boys and my wife to take care of here, i'd be driving there now
2005.09.02 [01:35] Mac-arena: what is SOTI?
2005.09.02 [01:35] johnboy: not too sure about looting there man
2005.09.02 [01:35] Irony_: no looting on west bank ?
2005.09.02 [01:35] TexasEMT: asdfasdf: What department are you attached to?
2005.09.02 [01:35] johnboy: not sure
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2005.09.02 [01:35] bennyfactor: Anything that is theoretically that old would have been on higher ground
2005.09.02 [01:36] eric: where should I be driving? if i want to come down and help
2005.09.02 [01:36] Mechcozmo: i must sleep no
2005.09.02 [01:36] Irony_: :(
2005.09.02 [01:36] isb: looting everyehwhere
2005.09.02 [01:36] Mechcozmo: er now
2005.09.02 [01:36] joeldg: highest spot in the city is the cathedral, so yes the quarter is dry..
2005.09.02 [01:36] johnboy: you know peeps there?
2005.09.02 [01:36] jconway963: postmodern .... i am sure your *nix install supports xmms or realplayer the scanner stream is shoutcast just c&p the url+port into eather player
2005.09.02 [01:36] asdfasdf: I work for the city of killeen as a fire fighter / emt
2005.09.02 [01:36] CompWizrd: soti = stay on the internet, is my guess :)
2005.09.02 [01:36] Encapsulate: wankle: I've got lots more!
2005.09.02 [01:36] michaelloftis: ohhman charlie foxtrot
2005.09.02 [01:36] asdfasdf: Past 10 years
2005.09.02 [01:36] asdfasdf: :)
2005.09.02 [01:36] Mechcozmo: i wish all of you luck
2005.09.02 [01:36] BlackLotus: Thanks, to you both.
2005.09.02 [01:36] michaelloftis: cans full of diesel but no spouts!
2005.09.02 [01:36] isb: eric, head west. keep driving
2005.09.02 [01:36] Q_Continuum: eric: they're not letting anyone in, so I wouldn't bother driving.
2005.09.02 [01:36] Mac-arena: works for me. thanks :)
2005.09.02 [01:36] n00bmaster: wow
2005.09.02 [01:36] Irony_: yes, i do
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2005.09.02 [01:36] asdfasdf: Two more years and i'm dropping my ems badge and going full time FD
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2005.09.02 [01:36] Sad_and_Angry: Eric, you would ot be allowed into the city
2005.09.02 [01:36] JupiterCo: eric:  Ponchatrain Bridge is Gone...
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2005.09.02 [01:36] Irony_: some left some staed
2005.09.02 [01:36] checkercab: one thing i did hear, and would like to confirm, is that Red Cross is looking for volunteers that can volunteer locally to free up the more highly trained personnel to go to the disaster scene
2005.09.02 [01:36] wankle: encapsula: good to know, I'll be expecting more
2005.09.02 [01:36] FCYTravis: Report from Corps of Engineers says they're making progress at closing the canals
2005.09.02 [01:36] ghussey: i'd go in there, but i have no weapons.
2005.09.02 [01:36] isb: FD? whats FD??
2005.09.02 [01:36] johnboy: damn
2005.09.02 [01:36] eric: ok. but what about a suburb...? or somehwere my hands can be put to good use
2005.09.02 [01:36] FCYTravis: dropping sandbags in the 17th street canal
2005.09.02 [01:36] JupiterCo: might have to get there via I-10?
2005.09.02 [01:36] sent: I talked to my friend in Mandeville today.. his BellSouth connection was working, and he was online via generator. His cousin is NOPD, and he quit because he was getting shot at at least 4 times a hour, and he had to shoot/kill 3 people in self defense. Fucked up situation there.
2005.09.02 [01:36] CSMan: i wonder how long those walkie talkie batteries will last
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2005.09.02 [01:36] postmodern: jconway963, yeah i have audio, except accPlus and other exotic codecs
2005.09.02 [01:36] WillySilly: checkercab: they're sending anyone
2005.09.02 [01:36] asdfasdf: isb fire department
2005.09.02 [01:37] ghussey: i'm sure an extra pair of hands would be useful there though
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2005.09.02 [01:37] Irony_: i'm pissed the news hasn't shown any of the area on tv
2005.09.02 [01:37] FCYTravis: they have it 50-percent closed
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2005.09.02 [01:37] industr: they should drop sponges.
2005.09.02 [01:37] isb: thanks
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2005.09.02 [01:37] johnboy: Irony_ I have a few friends from uptown whose house is fine, but they are refusing to move back
2005.09.02 [01:37] johnboy: they are just married too
2005.09.02 [01:37] zardinuk: or diapers
2005.09.02 [01:37] TexasEMT: asdfasdf: Any idea why there aren't any agencies that are willing to accept EMS personnel? It's frustrating to be certified and have no one who wants your assistance.
2005.09.02 [01:37] jconway963: in *unix also with streamripper you can save it to mpeg
2005.09.02 [01:37] BeanFriedPork: Eric: you might want to ask the Red Cross about volunteering.
2005.09.02 [01:37] wankle: the breaches in the levies are the easy part at this point
2005.09.02 [01:37] Irony_: or mentioned much of it.  they keep showing the same damn shots of downtown, like we don't know what's happened there
2005.09.02 [01:37] wankle: since the water levels are equal
2005.09.02 [01:37] eric: yeah im gonna call them tomorrow
2005.09.02 [01:37] isb: eric, have u started driving yet or no?
2005.09.02 [01:37] FCYTravis: Right wankle
2005.09.02 [01:37] JupiterCo: drop sponges.... not a bad idea, ............. you fabricate a sponge the size of Texas.... get back to us when its complete
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2005.09.02 [01:37] eric: why is the live cam not pointing outside...?
2005.09.02 [01:37] eric: no
2005.09.02 [01:37] postmodern: jconway963, yeah i've used that before
2005.09.02 [01:37] FCYTravis: but at least it's a first step, finally
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2005.09.02 [01:37] CSMan: jconway963: mplayer -dumpstream helps too =)
2005.09.02 [01:37] BeanFriedPork: Too dark out
2005.09.02 [01:37] goofey: eric: too darkoutside
2005.09.02 [01:37] Irony_: they need to show upper and lower Plaq parish, and St Bernards etc
2005.09.02 [01:37] eric: oh
2005.09.02 [01:38] asdfasdf: eric - so people can see family
2005.09.02 [01:38] isb: comon man... we are depending on u... big time!
2005.09.02 [01:38] Fergasun: Jupitor: It would be one of those sponges that turns into a giant green dinosuar....
2005.09.02 [01:38] jconway963: teue thanks
2005.09.02 [01:38] sent: I talked to my friend in Mandeville today.. his BellSouth connection was working, and he was online via generator. His cousin is NOPD, and he quit because he was getting shot at at least 4 times a hour, and he had to shoot/kill 3 people in self defense. Fucked up situation there.
2005.09.02 [01:38] johnboy: yeah
2005.09.02 [01:38] eric: gotcha
2005.09.02 [01:38] WillySilly: JupiterCo: lol
2005.09.02 [01:38] jconway963: true
2005.09.02 [01:38] jconway963: oops
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2005.09.02 [01:38] JupiterCo: GODZILLA!!
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2005.09.02 [01:38] johnboy: I was just wondering how fucked they where today
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2005.09.02 [01:38] Frungy: sent: WOW
2005.09.02 [01:38] spstarr: The nation guard/police are keeping Interdictor and friends protected?
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2005.09.02 [01:38] BeanFriedPork: the window would become a mirror, and even if that wasn't the case, there are no streetlights outside so there's still nothing to see
2005.09.02 [01:38] isb: Mozilla!!!
2005.09.02 [01:38] FCYTravis: sent: Wow.
2005.09.02 [01:38] Fergasun: sent: Got any more information?
2005.09.02 [01:38] Jumper_New_PC: sent: geez
2005.09.02 [01:38] CSMan: fuse for diesel cans for generators
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2005.09.02 [01:38] Fergasun: Are people filtering out the new information?
2005.09.02 [01:38] Irony_: i have pics of lower Plaq parish
2005.09.02 [01:38] Fergasun: Such as this...
2005.09.02 [01:38] adownie: sent:  if you talk to your friend, can you ask if he/she knows Mike and Christine foster?
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2005.09.02 [01:38] wankle: spstarr: 20 floors of stairs are doing a good job of that
2005.09.02 [01:38] avyakata: someone give me a link for the audio feeds
2005.09.02 [01:38] n3ckf: what channel is scanner2 listening to?
2005.09.02 [01:38] johnboy: how is it?
2005.09.02 [01:38] adownie: we are looking for them
2005.09.02 [01:38] BeanFriedPork: Some police officers are holed up in the same high rise, so they have essentially been providing security.
2005.09.02 [01:38] avyakata: and I'll transcribe for a bit
2005.09.02 [01:38] Fergasun: "NOPD shot 3 people in self defense"?
2005.09.02 [01:39] cyberkine_: Local Red Cross are organizing med teams. UMDNJ (in NJ) will be sending about 100 staff to Baton Rougue
2005.09.02 [01:39] Irony_: from Boothville/Empire down is def under still
2005.09.02 [01:39] JupiterCo: i have a generator... i  should donate it.. to Emergency services yeah?
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2005.09.02 [01:39] spstarr: wankle: I suppose that helps too :-)
2005.09.02 [01:39] buddylazier: the diesel is going to Directnic's building, right?
2005.09.02 [01:39] isb: they werent kidding when they said this room is for chatter, heh?
2005.09.02 [01:39] Jumper_New_PC: sent: that needs to get out to the news
2005.09.02 [01:39] johnboy: Fergasun... where did you hear that?
2005.09.02 [01:39] zeroday: the mp3 stream for the scanners seems to be going down
2005.09.02 [01:39] bennyfactor: Interdictor-scanner2 is transcribing PD / National Guard
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2005.09.02 [01:39] Sad_and_Angry: heh Isb
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2005.09.02 [01:39] sent: It does, yes
2005.09.02 [01:39] sent: but the problem is
2005.09.02 [01:39] selcouth: OH NO WEBCAM LOVIN'!
2005.09.02 [01:39] sent: if it was known that NOPD was shooting looters
2005.09.02 [01:39] Fergasun: johnboy: just from this guy in the chatroom here
2005.09.02 [01:39] spstarr: the webcam is smooth now
2005.09.02 [01:39] BeanFriedPork: Although the directnic crew has also been providing needed information for the police officers.
2005.09.02 [01:39] isb: Joan, u around? Joan Touzet..
2005.09.02 [01:39] sent: there would be fucking rioting
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2005.09.02 [01:40] snax: math: posted plea for transcriber help to my lj at (Link: http://www.livejournal.com/users/snaxxx/92404.html)http://www.livejournal.com/users/snaxxx/92404.html which should be crossposted soon....
2005.09.02 [01:40] johnboy: ohh
2005.09.02 [01:40] doozer: isb: she took off for a bit
2005.09.02 [01:40] bennyfactor: (Link: http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2005243-0831/Louisiana.A2005243.1900.721.250m.jpg)http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2005243-0831/Louisiana.A2005243.1900.721.250m.jpg
2005.09.02 [01:40] Cenobyte: I'm not suprised looters are being shot though
2005.09.02 [01:40] JupiterCo: Who ... here .... is .... closest.... to .... the     .... coast??????
2005.09.02 [01:40] BeanFriedPork: Where they are is just a few blocks away from the Superdome
2005.09.02 [01:40] Cenobyte: that's standard procedure
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2005.09.02 [01:40] BeanFriedPork: I checked it out on Mapquest
2005.09.02 [01:40] Fergasun: Ceno: Not looters, but people who fire on the cops more like it...
2005.09.02 [01:40] bennyfactor: There's a 250m of LA MS AL from 31st
2005.09.02 [01:40] isb: thanks Chris
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2005.09.02 [01:40] britepink_: Juniper, which coast?
2005.09.02 [01:40] ghussey: idiots... why shoot at cops?
2005.09.02 [01:40] ghussey: everyone's scared i guess
2005.09.02 [01:40] zeroday: i need a bigger screen.  my laptop can't keep up with all this text
2005.09.02 [01:40] eric: im in jersey
2005.09.02 [01:40] JupiterCo: gulf coast
2005.09.02 [01:40] Fergasun: Let's not blow this out of proportion... "shot in self-denfese" is different than "shooting looters"
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2005.09.02 [01:40] cshado: zeroday: go loot one
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2005.09.02 [01:40] sent: the webcam keeps freezing
2005.09.02 [01:40] ben: Is there a cam feed in a free format? I cannot view wmv-style streams.
2005.09.02 [01:40] JupiterCo: memphis, tennessee here
2005.09.02 [01:40] industr: because they want to get their attention
2005.09.02 [01:40] eric: actually, brooklyn ny to be specific
2005.09.02 [01:40] johnboy: I'm ashamed to say I'm from this shithole of a state when you see what is going on in New Orleans
2005.09.02 [01:40] TexasEMT: asdfasdf: I've located in Arlington and haven't been able to get a coherent response from my local Red Cross on if they're accepting EMTs
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2005.09.02 [01:40] Jumper_New_PC: I'd be scared too, three days after the hurricane and no help
2005.09.02 [01:41] JupiterCo: imagine if Brooklyn was flooded
2005.09.02 [01:41] sent: stupid webcam
2005.09.02 [01:41] Jumper_New_PC: because the government screwed up
2005.09.02 [01:41] JupiterCo: no way in, no way out, no light, no food, no water
2005.09.02 [01:41] zardinuk: johnboy: word
2005.09.02 [01:41] BeanFriedPork: Its a highrise with both apartments and offices, I believe, and was mostly evacuated prior to the hurricane
2005.09.02 [01:41] CSMan: ben: are you on linux?
2005.09.02 [01:41] johnboy: scary thought JupiterCo
2005.09.02 [01:41] bennyfactor: Looks like there was still river flooding in Alabama to the fal lline
2005.09.02 [01:41] JupiterCo: yeah
2005.09.02 [01:41] ben: CSMan: Yes
2005.09.02 [01:41] JupiterCo: ..
2005.09.02 [01:41] spstarr: Its amazing, this live webcam is surrounded by the chaos and anarchy in New Orleans
2005.09.02 [01:41] Fergasun: Jumper: How can  you trust the government thought?
2005.09.02 [01:41] spstarr: and people are casually chatting on irc
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2005.09.02 [01:41] eric: there are a bunch of pretty stable brdiges in brooklyn
2005.09.02 [01:41] eric: but i'd be anightmare
2005.09.02 [01:41] JupiterCo: that's whats going on in NO right now
2005.09.02 [01:41] spstarr: I love geeks :-)
2005.09.02 [01:41] eric: it is now my nightmare
2005.09.02 [01:41] BeanFriedPork: Actually, theoretically you could still walk out of the city, couldn't you/
2005.09.02 [01:41] BeanFriedPork: ?
2005.09.02 [01:41] goofey: ben: mplayer works fine for me
2005.09.02 [01:41] Jumper_New_PC: you don't trust the government
2005.09.02 [01:41] Fergasun: Jumper: You can't expect them to be able to rn an operation quickly and smoothly....
2005.09.02 [01:41] snax: TexasEMT: sorry, i was posting to my lj....Texas Dept of Health and Human SErvices (Link: http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/oem/oem_results.cfm)http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/oem/oem_results.cfm
2005.09.02 [01:41] CSMan: ben: mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile myvideo.wmv http://...
2005.09.02 [01:41] Sad_and_Angry: It's a disgrace on the local, state, and federal levels
2005.09.02 [01:41] Cowface: Link to the webcam?
2005.09.02 [01:41] kyhwana: BeanFriedPork: if you don't get raped/shot
2005.09.02 [01:41] shibbbers: yeah why aren't people walking out of the city?
2005.09.02 [01:41] BeanFriedPork: true
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2005.09.02 [01:41] ben: goofey: Glad to hear that.
2005.09.02 [01:41] postmodern: ben, what arch are you running on?
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2005.09.02 [01:41] Jumper_New_PC: everyone should be prepared for a disaster to take care of themselves and their family
2005.09.02 [01:41] sent: I need a better link to the webcam
2005.09.02 [01:41] JupiterCo: wbcam not worth seeing unless its daytime...
2005.09.02 [01:41] ben: postmodern: amd64
2005.09.02 [01:41] sent: <eck0> i need to get clean
2005.09.02 [01:41] sent: <eck0> and get off of here
2005.09.02 [01:41] sent: <eck0> i will see yall later
2005.09.02 [01:41] sent: <eck0> need to turn off the generator
2005.09.02 [01:41] sent: <eck0> peace
2005.09.02 [01:41] kyhwana: plus it's a long walk to anywhere
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: <eck0> i need to get clean
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: <eck0> and get off of here
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: <eck0> i will see yall later
2005.09.02 [01:42] isb: walking out of the city.?? thats stupid
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: <eck0> need to turn off the generator
2005.09.02 [01:42] postmodern: ben, same here
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: <eck0> peace
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: oh fuck
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: sorry, guys
2005.09.02 [01:42] Frungy: people are probably exhausted from dehydration and starvation to walk out of the city
2005.09.02 [01:42] postmodern: ben, WMV3 dosn't run on amd64 period
2005.09.02 [01:42] johnboy: I would like to thank any Texas residents for not being dumb enough to live in LA like me... and also for all your help
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: heh
2005.09.02 [01:42] Fergasun: shibbers:  Probably more dangerous...
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2005.09.02 [01:42] goofey: ben: mplayer (Link: http://old.mises.org:88/NO2)http://old.mises.org:88/NO2
2005.09.02 [01:42] wzldell: hello from New Orleans
2005.09.02 [01:42] johnboy: I admire you guys
2005.09.02 [01:42] buddylazier: what?
2005.09.02 [01:42] BeanFriedPork: I just said "theoretically." And its better than starving to death.
2005.09.02 [01:42] postmodern: ben, WMV2 does in mplayer
2005.09.02 [01:42] isb: sent is n=sentinel@c-24-127-61-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (sparktastic)
2005.09.02 [01:42] |SAB|Urs_wrk: I dont think you can, they say Slidell is flooded, it's on the way out
2005.09.02 [01:42] isb: sent is in the following rooms: interdictor-chat, interdictor-scanner
2005.09.02 [01:42] isb: sent is using the server irc.freenode.net ((Link: http://freenode.net/)http://freenode.net/)
2005.09.02 [01:42] RagnaRoC: Hey...stupid question maybe but I have resources availible on my box and wanted to know if I could use them in anyway to be of help as far as what is going on?
2005.09.02 [01:42] wzldell: er.. i mean.. To
2005.09.02 [01:42] snax: johnboy: not a problem, trying all we can
2005.09.02 [01:42] CSMan: postmodern: but it's just a codec, how come?
2005.09.02 [01:42] sent: wzldell: hello
2005.09.02 [01:42] JupiterCo: whoa, WZ...... ?? you are there?
2005.09.02 [01:42] ben: postmodern: I hoped some cool person would be mirroring it while converting to another format or something.
2005.09.02 [01:42] postmodern: goofey, make sure to remember that, WMV3 does not work on amd64!
2005.09.02 [01:42] n3ckf: okay can someone let me send in scanner2 i can transcribe
2005.09.02 [01:42] goofey: postmodern: oh, sorry
2005.09.02 [01:42] wzldell: working on generator power
2005.09.02 [01:42] postmodern: CSMan, it's not for AMD64
2005.09.02 [01:42] wzldell: through a proxy
2005.09.02 [01:42] BeanFriedPork:  <wzldell> er.. i mean.. To
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2005.09.02 [01:42] spstarr: cool
2005.09.02 [01:42] JupiterCo: wow, how about ISP?
2005.09.02 [01:42] ben: CSMan: It is a closed codec, there is no free implementation, as far as I know.
2005.09.02 [01:42] shibbbers: what gets me is why aren't people/family/friends trying to enter the city to help their family/friends
2005.09.02 [01:42] kyhwana: who needed a swat unit?
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2005.09.02 [01:43] wzldell: JupiterCo: proxy
2005.09.02 [01:43] WillySilly: what codec is that?
2005.09.02 [01:43] postmodern: CSMan, it's binary 32bit code and is not compatible with 64bit mplayer
2005.09.02 [01:43] Sad_and_Angry: New Orleans, Lafayette is with you.
2005.09.02 [01:43] goofey: shibbbers: i read they are not allowed in
2005.09.02 [01:43] johnboy: thanks snax... I was very impressed by your plan to absorb our storm troopers into your schools and jobs
2005.09.02 [01:43] Fergasun: shibbers: The city is not secure...
2005.09.02 [01:43] CSMan: solution: vmware
2005.09.02 [01:43] postmodern: goofey, sorry to harsh just want to get the info out
2005.09.02 [01:43] wzldell: Sad_and_Angry: thx
2005.09.02 [01:43] wankle: shibbers: because they wouldn't be able to help them
2005.09.02 [01:43] wzldell: we appreciate it
2005.09.02 [01:43] goofey: postmodern: np
2005.09.02 [01:43] Encapsulate: shibbbers: They are, they can't.
2005.09.02 [01:43] |SAB|Urs_wrk: hmm they are voting on 10 bill for NO,,, they gave 15 bill to the airlines ater 911
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2005.09.02 [01:43] isb: well said, johnboy
2005.09.02 [01:43] snax: johnboy: hehheh
2005.09.02 [01:43] JupiterCo: wzldell: how are you, your fam, friends, neighbors?
2005.09.02 [01:43] Jumper_New_PC: woah, FEMA is treating the Superdome the way they would a disease zone??
2005.09.02 [01:43] spstarr: you know, it's the power of Geeks that makes me smile
2005.09.02 [01:43] Encapsulate: shibbbers: They'd also quickly become part of the problem.
2005.09.02 [01:43] voodoo_in_tx_: shibbbers they aren't letting people in
2005.09.02 [01:43] Fergasun: shibbers: It's like sending people into Fallujah before the battle is over..
2005.09.02 [01:43] wankle: that's like asking why you aren't flying to iraq to kill terrorists right now... because you're not equiped to actually help
2005.09.02 [01:43] Frungy: wzldell is probably bsin'
2005.09.02 [01:43] shibbbers: I just don't get what the barrier is in just walking 10 miles to another area
2005.09.02 [01:43] wzldell: i looted today
2005.09.02 [01:43] Cenobyte: wzdell: what part of NO are you in?
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2005.09.02 [01:43] BeanFriedPork: 10.5 billion is probably just a preliminary amount
2005.09.02 [01:43] wankle: ferg: damn you
2005.09.02 [01:43] Midas: You guys that are in the webcam need to goto sleep, the more rest you get the better
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2005.09.02 [01:43] Darkest_Ancient: one wonders where they will get that 10 billion... on, nevermind, the fed will print it up out of thin air
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2005.09.02 [01:43] isb: wankle, u know thats just an excuse
2005.09.02 [01:43] JupiterCo: i'm about to who.is him/her
2005.09.02 [01:43] kyhwana: shibbbers: water? and people who will kill you?
2005.09.02 [01:44] Jerub: (Link: http://www.illwillpress.com/)http://www.illwillpress.com/ <- I like the hurricane report
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2005.09.02 [01:44] eric: im wondering when they start quarenting the sick in the "terror dome"
2005.09.02 [01:44] wankle: isb: no, it's not. do you know anything about Search and Resuce operations?
2005.09.02 [01:44] snax: johnboy: yeah, i want to help, but i know it would be more prudent to help at the Austin shelter than travel to Houston, for a rough situation
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2005.09.02 [01:44] Fergasun: Darkest: What about that money the fed "looted" from New Orleans?
2005.09.02 [01:44] spstarr: terrordome? :(
2005.09.02 [01:44] BeanFriedPork: And you know how money is tight these days, what with us spending 150 billion on the Iraq war...
2005.09.02 [01:44] spstarr: heh
2005.09.02 [01:44] Fergasun: I'm sure it's ~ 10.5 billion
2005.09.02 [01:44] isb: wankle, no i dont
2005.09.02 [01:44] wankle: do most people? No. They should stay out. people need to LEAVE NOLA, not get in and "try to help"
2005.09.02 [01:44] snax: State Request for Medical Personnel
2005.09.02 [01:44] snax: The Governor's Division of Emergency Management is requesting the services of 200 physicians and about 380 nurses along with other medically trained personnel -- especially respiratory therapists.
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2005.09.02 [01:44] eric: thats what i heard it called
2005.09.02 [01:44] Irony_: they didn't loot the damn money
2005.09.02 [01:44] eric: i forget the real name
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2005.09.02 [01:44] isb: wankle, do u?
2005.09.02 [01:44] wzldell: TIME FOR A VOTE: do you think new orleans should be allowed to rebuild?
2005.09.02 [01:44] wankle: nope
2005.09.02 [01:44] JupiterCo: Wzldell: How is Australia?
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2005.09.02 [01:44] Fergasun: Irony: Not look, but came in and protected....
2005.09.02 [01:44] snax: .Texas Dept of Health and Human SErvices (Link: http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/oem/oem_results.cfm)http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/oem/oem_results.cfm
2005.09.02 [01:45] isb: enlighten us then : )
2005.09.02 [01:45] TexasEMT: Snax: Yeah, I just read that. Doesn't say if they need EMTBs and EMTPs
2005.09.02 [01:45] wankle: and I sure as fuck wouldn't pretend that me going in there would help
2005.09.02 [01:45] matty: the fed took the money in the bnaks on Monday out of NOLA
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2005.09.02 [01:45] Darkest_Ancient: new orleans will be rebuilt, SOMETHING WILL, on that site, or at least the port
2005.09.02 [01:45] spstarr: wzldell: I dont think so, the land is sinking already, how would you re build ig?
2005.09.02 [01:45] isb: why not?
2005.09.02 [01:45] Jumper_New_PC: especially respritory
2005.09.02 [01:45] Darkest_Ancient: you realize it is the entranceway for the mississippi river
2005.09.02 [01:45] Jumper_New_PC: that's odd
2005.09.02 [01:45] Darkest_Ancient: it cannot be ignored
2005.09.02 [01:45] wzldell: isb?
2005.09.02 [01:45] wankle: because I wouldn't be able to
2005.09.02 [01:45] JupiterCo: exitway
2005.09.02 [01:45] wzldell: cuz i dont want my tax dollars
2005.09.02 [01:45] Darkest_Ancient: it is an economic inevitability that something will be built there
2005.09.02 [01:45] cshado: wzldell: you're in australia?
2005.09.02 [01:45] wankle: you dumb git
2005.09.02 [01:45] wzldell: spent on rebuilding
2005.09.02 [01:45] Irony_: why are you so stuck on the damn bank ?
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2005.09.02 [01:45] wzldell: a sinkhole
2005.09.02 [01:45] braniff: (Link: http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8684)http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8684
2005.09.02 [01:45] Darkest_Ancient: they'll probably try to do it better, safer
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2005.09.02 [01:45] orlok: JupiterCo: australia is fine.
2005.09.02 [01:45] snax: TexasEMT: I know a few of the folks at the OEM, pretty nice folks
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2005.09.02 [01:45] Darkest_Ancient: but there will always at least be a massive port there, and where there is a massive port, ther eis jobs
2005.09.02 [01:45] johnboy: New Orleans is too large a port not to be rebuilt
2005.09.02 [01:45] JupiterCo: Wzldell...........................how is Australia
2005.09.02 [01:45] Sad_and_Angry: New Orleans is what it is, and where it is.  It will be rebuilt.
2005.09.02 [01:45] Darkest_Ancient: and where there are jobs, there will be a city
2005.09.02 [01:45] BeanFriedPork: They need to make it ten feet higher this time, pour cement or whatever until it reaches sea level this time...
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2005.09.02 [01:46] wankle: what do you think people would be able to do if they drove in to NOLA, that the thousands of Nat. Guard troops can't do
2005.09.02 [01:46] isb: wzldell?
2005.09.02 [01:46] wzldell: JupiterCo: around the world
2005.09.02 [01:46] spstarr: how many thugs are there right now in NO?
2005.09.02 [01:46] goofey: any hear an update on the convention center fire?
2005.09.02 [01:46] johnboy: I would like consultants from other states doing it though... and I wouldn't want a signle politician from LA involved
2005.09.02 [01:46] Frungy: co.cox.net is Colorado
2005.09.02 [01:46] orlok: JupiterCo: why do you think he's in australia?
2005.09.02 [01:46] spstarr: you need _30,000_ National Guard to stop the violence??
2005.09.02 [01:46] cshado: wankle: pick people up?
2005.09.02 [01:46] shibbbers: national guard just seemed a bit disorganized but getting better
2005.09.02 [01:46] acidstars: id rather have my tax dollars spent on bringing NO back  than have it spent on the vast majority of bullshit its otherwise spent on
2005.09.02 [01:46] wankle: there's no shortage of people to go in and help, there is a HUGE shortage of organization and the equipment needed to get in to people
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2005.09.02 [01:46] isb: wankle, pick people up maybe?
2005.09.02 [01:46] Jumper_New_PC: I haven't seen anything about the fire on TV at all
2005.09.02 [01:46] Gloftoe: you need ENOUGH NG troops, with authority to SHOOT, to stop the looting and violence.
2005.09.02 [01:46] braniff: NO is totalled -- should be razed
2005.09.02 [01:46] wzldell: Frungy: hows the dyslexia treating ya?
2005.09.02 [01:46] Encapsulate: Also: New Orleans has been there longer than a lot of other US cities.   The hurricanes rolled over a good swatch of FL cities over the last decade, they were allowed to remain.
2005.09.02 [01:46] wankle: pick people up with what?
2005.09.02 [01:46] Gloftoe: just their mere presence wont' do a damn thing.
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2005.09.02 [01:46] Encapsulate: Do we really need TAMPA, or FT. LAUDERDALE?
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2005.09.02 [01:47] wankle: you're an idiot if you think the only reason people aren't getting out is because there's no one to go pick them up
2005.09.02 [01:47] isb: whatever it takes - cars maybe
2005.09.02 [01:47] buddylazier: fuck, let's get rid of Chicago
2005.09.02 [01:47] Darkest_Ancient: well, the thing with rebuilding NO is... everyone knew this would happen if a big hurricane hit
2005.09.02 [01:47] wankle: we're talking about 10,000 people
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2005.09.02 [01:47] Darkest_Ancient: its a bowl, under sea level
2005.09.02 [01:47] buddylazier: corrupt jerks
2005.09.02 [01:47] acidstars: do we need any of florida? :x
2005.09.02 [01:47] Frungy: dyslexia, wzldell?
2005.09.02 [01:47] adownie: it should be rebuilt...  after we fix the issues with the delta
2005.09.02 [01:47] Sad_and_Angry: Bottom line: Government has failed the people.
2005.09.02 [01:47] wankle: cars? FUCKING CARS!?!?
2005.09.02 [01:47] Darkest_Ancient: this is a critical point
2005.09.02 [01:47] acidstars: i kid, i kid.
2005.09.02 [01:47] Irony_: It says a lot about the people of New Orleans when you have to have 40,000 National Guards to protect the city from it's own people.
2005.09.02 [01:47] isb: no lets get rid of miami
2005.09.02 [01:47] Jumper_New_PC: even if you wanted to drive into NO and pick people up, the wouldn't let you
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2005.09.02 [01:47] buddylazier: how about Branson, MO
2005.09.02 [01:47] Darkest_Ancient: if NO was above sea level they wouldn't have half the problems they have now
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2005.09.02 [01:47] postmodern: ben, try using mplayer-bin
2005.09.02 [01:47] wankle: yeeeah, OK, lets drive 5 thousand cars into a flooded city to pick people up
2005.09.02 [01:47] Encapsulate: Irony_: <cough cough> L.A. in the mid 90s
2005.09.02 [01:47] wankle: that's fucking brilliant
2005.09.02 [01:47] braniff: Irony_: (Link: http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8684)http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8684 (Link: http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8684)http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8684
2005.09.02 [01:47] adownie: yeah, Branson can go :-)
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2005.09.02 [01:47] isb: no - not the fucking ones... jsut the normal ones
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2005.09.02 [01:47] postmodern: ben, ie a 32bit pre-compiled mplayer
2005.09.02 [01:47] Darkest_Ancient: in terms of the actual hurricane, they got off much lighter than expected
2005.09.02 [01:47] wzldell: Frungy: apparently you're dyslexic.... co.cox.net != oc.cox.net
2005.09.02 [01:47] Gloftoe: it doesn't mean the people fo New Orleans are bad
2005.09.02 [01:47] JupiterCo: Wzldell----------- How is Cali then?
2005.09.02 [01:47] bennyfactor: If we're razing cities the first should be Gatlinburg, TN
2005.09.02 [01:47] WillySilly: NO = giant bathtub
2005.09.02 [01:48] Gloftoe: it just means there's a huge "bad apple" sect in NO
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2005.09.02 [01:48] ben: postmodern: Thanks, that should work
2005.09.02 [01:48] WillySilly: Cailfornia is fine
2005.09.02 [01:48] cshado: wankle: shrug, idgaf
2005.09.02 [01:48] bennyfactor: All the sleaze of Vegas and none of the good stuff
2005.09.02 [01:48] wankle: you're either stupid, or a troll, either way I'm done
2005.09.02 [01:48] Darkest_Ancient: no, flint michigan should be the first to go
2005.09.02 [01:48] johnboy: not everyone from Nola is bad... just most
2005.09.02 [01:48] sent: DIE IN A FLOOD, BITCHES
2005.09.02 [01:48] wzldell: JupiterCo: you want my going-to-hell answer?
2005.09.02 [01:48] sent: DIE IN A FLOOD, BITCHES
2005.09.02 [01:48] bennyfactor: And it's a blight on the smokies anyhow
2005.09.02 [01:48] postmodern: ben, also make sure IA32 compatibility is enabled in the kernel
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2005.09.02 [01:48] wzldell: It's dry
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2005.09.02 [01:48] Irony_: not all.  most of the smart ones left New Orleans when they had the chance
2005.09.02 [01:48] wzldell: in cali
2005.09.02 [01:48] postmodern: ben, you on gentoo btw?
2005.09.02 [01:48] sent: DIE IN A FLOOD, BITCHES
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2005.09.02 [01:48] goofey: adownie: the *issues*are unfixable - the delta is not made for cities
2005.09.02 [01:48] Jumper_New_PC: some people didn't have a choice about leaving
2005.09.02 [01:48] ben: postmodern: Yes, and yeah, I can run 32bit things.
2005.09.02 [01:48] Sad_and_Angry: I'd just as soon not raze any cities.  But that's just me.
2005.09.02 [01:48] Encapsulate: Irony_: By smart, you mean Rich, right?
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2005.09.02 [01:48] wankle: thanks sent, thanks for the encouragement
2005.09.02 [01:48] cshado: Jumper_New_PC: WHAT? who?
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2005.09.02 [01:48] Darkest_Ancient: just ignore the obvious troll
2005.09.02 [01:48] buddylazier: most of those with money or cars you mean
2005.09.02 [01:48] sent: wankle: sure. i love you.
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2005.09.02 [01:48] JupiterCo: Wzldell: Your choice...........  don't leave your IP hanging then
2005.09.02 [01:48] Jumper_New_PC: people with no cars, no money
2005.09.02 [01:48] Irony_: no, rich has nothing to do with it
2005.09.02 [01:48] Jumper_New_PC: people who were sick
2005.09.02 [01:48] wzldell: JupiterCo: its dry in cali
2005.09.02 [01:48] cshado: Jumper_New_PC: excuse me? do they have legs?
2005.09.02 [01:48] johnboy: hte prob in new orleans is that 99% of the people with sense left town when instructed... so you have damn near 100% of retards still there and they are unruly, uneducated, and very difficult to control
2005.09.02 [01:48] postmodern: ben, rock on
2005.09.02 [01:48] ben: postmodern: Is mplayer-bin going to get along with 64bit mplayer?
2005.09.02 [01:48] cshado: Jumper_New_PC: they had 3+ days notice.. start fucking walking
2005.09.02 [01:48] adownie: well, there are some things they can do...  the wetland reclamation and such
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2005.09.02 [01:49] Darkest_Ancient: if rich has nothing to do with it, why were swat teams employed to protect the vehicles in the rich areas of town? :p
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2005.09.02 [01:49] CSMan: cshado: it takes a week to walk to a safe distance
2005.09.02 [01:49] cshado: johnboy: AMEN
2005.09.02 [01:49] wzldell: JupiterCo: being above sea level sure does pay off
2005.09.02 [01:49] sent: oooh
2005.09.02 [01:49] adownie: or, they could move :-)
2005.09.02 [01:49] cshado: CSMan: uh.. safe, or wet.
2005.09.02 [01:49] wankle: people don't realize how poor many parts of NOLA were
2005.09.02 [01:49] Jumper_New_PC: you going to walk in 90+ degree heat ahead of a hurricane
2005.09.02 [01:49] sent: joint task force Katrina
2005.09.02 [01:49] cshado: CSMan: they would be non-dead.
2005.09.02 [01:49] cshado: CSMan: and disease free
2005.09.02 [01:49] cshado: maybe a bit wet.
2005.09.02 [01:49] * JupiterCo says " and then claim to be from NO"
2005.09.02 [01:49] wankle: "just leave" is impossible when you have nothing, and no way to get out
2005.09.02 [01:49] Encapsulate: CSMan: No joke... So... I walked my poor ass to Nebraska.  Now what.
2005.09.02 [01:49] cshado: stop FUCKing saying "no way to get out"
2005.09.02 [01:49] CSMan: cshado: but grandma can't walk dude
2005.09.02 [01:49] postmodern: ben, unmerge mplayer, unmask mplayer-bin
2005.09.02 [01:49] Sad_and_Angry: And poor, Johnboy.  Poor and unable to evacuate.  Can you understand that?
2005.09.02 [01:49] Irony_: the people of New Orleans were warned before the hurricane season started that this was going to be the worst they've had.  so they were to make plans/evacuation routes etc.  and to find a ride if you didn't have one
2005.09.02 [01:49] kyhwana: [22:46] <joeldg> they are keeping people 'in' the city, police with shotguns turning them back when they try to leave..
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2005.09.02 [01:49] Fergasun: wankle: It's like that in every city, isn't it?
2005.09.02 [01:49] cshado: CSMan: grandma isn't looting
2005.09.02 [01:49] sent: wankle: if i had nothing on me, i would walk the fuck out.
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2005.09.02 [01:49] cshado: CSMan: grandma isnt shooting cops
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2005.09.02 [01:49] vicedriver: call me sentimental, but i try not to criticize stricken people
2005.09.02 [01:50] wankle: ferg: yeah, quite a bit, but NOLA was very very poor
2005.09.02 [01:50] CSMan: cshado: she'd do it if she can
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2005.09.02 [01:50] cshado: CSMan: thats bullshit
2005.09.02 [01:50] kyhwana: Irony_: hard to do that without any money for it
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2005.09.02 [01:50] cshado: you're an idiot
2005.09.02 [01:50] CSMan: she dies instead
2005.09.02 [01:50] wzldell: cshado: last click
2005.09.02 [01:50] * JupiterCo says "Wzldell, i put you close to Irvine, how close am I"?
2005.09.02 [01:50] kyhwana: Plus you can't outwalk a hurricane
2005.09.02 [01:50] snax: voodoo in texas: Doh!! right, i'm usually on another server, and not registered...snaxxx
2005.09.02 [01:50] Lyssia: Does anyone think that there were people who didn't leave when they could have done?
2005.09.02 [01:50] wankle: sent: you're going to walk out with your 4 kids and 90 year old grandma?
2005.09.02 [01:50] LavosPhoenix: it's not the people's fault for not being able to evacuate since they are so poor
2005.09.02 [01:50] wzldell: JupiterCo: ARE YOU OUTSIDE MY DOOR?!@#
2005.09.02 [01:50] wzldell: stalker
2005.09.02 [01:50] wzldell: =(
2005.09.02 [01:50] cshado: kyhwana: thats bullshit. get a fucking job
2005.09.02 [01:50] NotJust4Breakfas: Things will get better when Dick Cheney comes back from his restful vacation in a few days.
2005.09.02 [01:50] Fergasun: People aren't thinking about "the next hurricane" when they don't know where their next meal is going to come....
2005.09.02 [01:50] mcsmurf: was there a real plan by anyone to evacuate people in the first place? not really i think
2005.09.02 [01:50] cshado: wzldell: he used /me
2005.09.02 [01:50] CSMan: The_Tick: someone is a bit altered.
2005.09.02 [01:50] kyhwana: cshado: hahaha, do you know how poor most of NO is/was?
2005.09.02 [01:50] JupiterCo: lol
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2005.09.02 [01:50] mcsmurf: everyone who left did this privatly
2005.09.02 [01:50] * cshado approaches the counter.
2005.09.02 [01:50] LavosPhoenix: what we need is the government and relief agencies to act
2005.09.02 [01:50] vicedriver: right on, ferg
2005.09.02 [01:50] * cshado says, "What the fuck?"
2005.09.02 [01:50] Midas: Grandma might be shooting cops, remember cshado, this is the South, and New Orleans at that
2005.09.02 [01:50] shibbbers: sure there was, mayor said get out
2005.09.02 [01:50] Encapsulate: Lyssia: There were people who remained by choice, I'd have to guess that they were a minority.
2005.09.02 [01:50] Darkest_Ancient: NO is rated the 12th poorest city in the nation
2005.09.02 [01:50] wzldell: JupiterCo: our roads are dry... our police force is ready.. i can yell rape if you come near me
2005.09.02 [01:51] cshado: lol
2005.09.02 [01:51] cshado: our cops will fuck you up
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo: =======lol======
2005.09.02 [01:51] cshado: especially if you're <>white
2005.09.02 [01:51] BeanFriedPork: So... the Astrodome is full?
2005.09.02 [01:51] wzldell: yelling is a felony here
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo:  --------___________-------
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo:  -------//----/----\\------
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo:  -------||---/-/---||------
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo:  -------\\.___/___.//------
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo:  ---------((_,-._))--------Steal Your Face
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo:  -----------//-\\--------- Created By: JupiterCo
2005.09.02 [01:51] wankle: bean: supposedly
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2005.09.02 [01:51] cshado: ...
2005.09.02 [01:51] Darkest_Ancient: the astrodome is full, if you've seen the pics
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo: SORRY
2005.09.02 [01:51] cshado: what?
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo: !
2005.09.02 [01:51] wzldell: steal your face?
2005.09.02 [01:51] Darkest_Ancient: the entire field is lined back to back with mats and people
2005.09.02 [01:51] wzldell: here's a thought...
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo: Grateful Dead
2005.09.02 [01:51] cshado: oh n0es
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo: ...
2005.09.02 [01:51] Sad_and_Angry: There is a real disconnect in this country about poverty.  People have no conception of how many people have nothing.  Nothing.  Not just in New Orleans.
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2005.09.02 [01:51] Darkest_Ancient: nobody is in the stands, though
2005.09.02 [01:51] wzldell: </nerd>
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2005.09.02 [01:51] cshado: hes gonna steal my face
2005.09.02 [01:51] zardinuk: wtf is that!?
2005.09.02 [01:51] bennyfactor: FACE THEFT
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2005.09.02 [01:51] isb: Excellent job, JupiterCo...
2005.09.02 [01:51] wankle: sad: thank you
2005.09.02 [01:51] isb: making a fool of yourself
2005.09.02 [01:51] postmodern: knock this shit off
2005.09.02 [01:51] JupiterCo: lol @ ISB
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2005.09.02 [01:51] cshado: facethievery.com
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2005.09.02 [01:51] Babylonian: "They have M-16s and they're locked and loaded," Gov. Kathleen Blanco said of 300 National Guard troops who landed in New Orleans fresh from duty in Iraq. "These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will."
2005.09.02 [01:51] postmodern: keep the channel on topic
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2005.09.02 [01:51] Darkest_Ancient: Poverty in the U.S. is not "nothing" generaly
2005.09.02 [01:51] wzldell: JupiterCo: now would be a good time to </nerd>
2005.09.02 [01:51] isb: right back at ya
2005.09.02 [01:51] johnboy: I wonder how many fucktards planned to ride out the storm in order to loot?
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2005.09.02 [01:51] AgentMulder: they won't fill the astrodome to capacity, it will overrun the facilities
2005.09.02 [01:51] Fergasun: We're probably like... 75 % above the poverty level to have internet connections and know how to use IRC....
2005.09.02 [01:52] Darkest_Ancient: Poverty like as exists in Africa does not exist in the U.S.
2005.09.02 [01:52] Gloftoe: Babylonian, I hope so
2005.09.02 [01:52] Babylonian: johnboy:  none
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2005.09.02 [01:52] Gloftoe: kill a few looters, and the rest SHOULD stop
2005.09.02 [01:52] Jumper_New_PC: DA: You really think so?
2005.09.02 [01:52] Babylonian: Gloftoe:  you hope to see a bloodbath?
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2005.09.02 [01:52] johnboy: Gloftoe: I agree
2005.09.02 [01:52] cshado: i do
2005.09.02 [01:52] Encapsulate: That is the next question, lets pretend we live in a world where we had 10,000 buses that could carry 40 people each.  Big Buses.
2005.09.02 [01:52] mcsmurf: they are not looters, they are finders!
2005.09.02 [01:52] cshado: if they're looters
2005.09.02 [01:52] Gloftoe: I hope the looters get the message.
2005.09.02 [01:52] mcsmurf: :P
2005.09.02 [01:52] cshado: i do hope to see a bloodbath
2005.09.02 [01:52] sent: I WANNA SEE A BLOODBATH
2005.09.02 [01:52] cshado: the rapists/looters should be shot in the dick
2005.09.02 [01:52] braniff: Darkest_Ancient: i'd say NO has "African poverty" conditions right about now...
2005.09.02 [01:52] Gloftoe: See them carrying a TV out of a store?
2005.09.02 [01:52] wankle: they can't "get the message"
2005.09.02 [01:52] Gloftoe: shoot them.
2005.09.02 [01:52] Encapsulate: Where would this magical never ending stream of buses deposit these people?
2005.09.02 [01:52] johnboy: mcsmurf: they are looters
2005.09.02 [01:52] Fergasun: Gloftoe: You want to piss off more people?
2005.09.02 [01:52] Gloftoe: right there
2005.09.02 [01:52] JupiterCo: no looting means Starving children
2005.09.02 [01:52] mcsmurf: Gloftoe: sure they read the chat here :D
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2005.09.02 [01:52] wankle: because there's no communication infrastructure
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2005.09.02 [01:52] zardinuk: they are collectors
2005.09.02 [01:52] isb: shoot them???
2005.09.02 [01:52] Cellulaer: Darkest: yeah instead of having no food they get crap food which is 100% sugar and no nutrients
2005.09.02 [01:52] postmodern: Gloftoe, most likely they will use scare tactics
2005.09.02 [01:52] Sad_and_Angry: I hope the power brokers get the message.
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2005.09.02 [01:52] sent: i want to see a Canal Street Massacre
2005.09.02 [01:52] Babylonian: cshado:  why do you care more about some TVs than human life ?
2005.09.02 [01:52] Darkest_Ancient: Braniff, possibly, but NO isn't under normal circumstances, either
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2005.09.02 [01:52] JupiterCo: Giant Loudspeakers from heli's
2005.09.02 [01:52] JupiterCo: .....
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2005.09.02 [01:53] cshado: JupiterCo: how do you know
2005.09.02 [01:53] johnboy: man communication in all of LA sucks right now... cell networks are fucked and my land line is pretty useless right now
2005.09.02 [01:53] cshado: stop saying LA
2005.09.02 [01:53] cshado: LA = LA
2005.09.02 [01:53] sueil: who cares about hte tv's but what about the people shooting at the rescuers?
2005.09.02 [01:53] Gloftoe: I've seen footage of the looters that have been "captured" on the news
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2005.09.02 [01:53] postmodern: Gloftoe, or imploy anti-personel devices, such as mace or acoustic weapons
2005.09.02 [01:53] Gloftoe: they just let them go
2005.09.02 [01:53] Fergasun: Yeah, let's open up on people who survived a hurrican...
2005.09.02 [01:53] cshado: say dirty south or something
2005.09.02 [01:53] evil_saltine: what about the train?
2005.09.02 [01:53] selcouth: LiveJounal update: (Link: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/)http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
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2005.09.02 [01:53] Darkest_Ancient: actually, no, still not, you can probably still loot more food than some africans see in a year
2005.09.02 [01:53] Gloftoe: or they run, and the authorites don't chase
2005.09.02 [01:53] isb: LA
2005.09.02 [01:53] CSMan: johnboy: where are ya?
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2005.09.02 [01:53] Fergasun: let's kill our own American citizens...
2005.09.02 [01:53] cshado: isb: oh n0es!
2005.09.02 [01:53] Gloftoe: what message does that convey?
2005.09.02 [01:53] sueil: the people that at shooting at the police and national guard should be shot
2005.09.02 [01:53] Gloftoe: "Loot, we'll catch you and let you go."
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2005.09.02 [01:53] Jumper_New_PC: I think it's really funny that I've been watching TV all day and I haven't once seen someone with like....a bullhorn....explaining what is going on to people
2005.09.02 [01:53] * snax points to topic
2005.09.02 [01:53] cshado: Fergasun: they lose their rights when they decide to rape someone
2005.09.02 [01:53] * CSMan points to topic
2005.09.02 [01:53] isb: LA LA
2005.09.02 [01:53] cshado: or niggerbuy a pair of air force ones
2005.09.02 [01:53] matty: caeaning up the bodies before the News crews get there
2005.09.02 [01:53] Midas: including the right to live
2005.09.02 [01:53] Babylonian: what
2005.09.02 [01:53] zardinuk: sueil: they'll probably just shoot each other
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2005.09.02 [01:54] * JupiterCo takes a glance
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2005.09.02 [01:54] Babylonian: cshado:  oh I see where you're coming from
2005.09.02 [01:54] * snax slaps JupiterCo around a bit with a large trout
2005.09.02 [01:54] * JupiterCo slaps snax right back. [JupiterCo] is using his Channel Slap Defense V. 1.01
2005.09.02 [01:54] JupiterCo: lol
2005.09.02 [01:54] Fergasun: Glof: I'd like to see it as... "You're a dumbass if you are looting when you should be getting the f out of the city"
2005.09.02 [01:54] JupiterCo: Remotes are fun
2005.09.02 [01:54] johnboy: I agree
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2005.09.02 [01:54] braniff: sad to say, but just complacence on the country's part will probably kill off most of the looters -- from lack of water/food
2005.09.02 [01:54] buddylazier: wow
2005.09.02 [01:54] * snax misfired
2005.09.02 [01:54] Encapsulate: cshado: You totally just made your point completely.
2005.09.02 [01:54] johnboy: looters should be shot immediately
2005.09.02 [01:54] Babylonian: the people who didn't leave were too poor to leave
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2005.09.02 [01:54] * snax slaps cshado around a bit with a large trout
2005.09.02 [01:54] Sad_and_Angry: Actually in this country, you never lose your rights until you are convicted.  DISCLAIMER: NOT DEFENDING RAPISTS
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2005.09.02 [01:54] CSMan: Babylonian: where is he from
2005.09.02 [01:54] Fergasun: Now, killing the rapists...
2005.09.02 [01:54] sueil: zardinuk they might but they are stopping the rescue efforts and should be taken care of
2005.09.02 [01:54] JupiterCo: ;p;
2005.09.02 [01:54] Gloftoe: johnboy, sadly it's the ONLY way to stop them from doing it
2005.09.02 [01:54] JupiterCo: lol
2005.09.02 [01:54] Encapsulate: cshado: And should be pushed to the edge of the pack and eaten.
2005.09.02 [01:54] johnboy: well looters with nonessential items
2005.09.02 [01:54] JupiterCo: Misfired
2005.09.02 [01:54] JupiterCo: l;ol
2005.09.02 [01:54] johnboy: its not sad
2005.09.02 [01:54] FyreHOU: 66.221.114.30:8000  just went down.  Anyone know of another active feed that does not require a /whatever at the end of it?
2005.09.02 [01:54] Gloftoe: right now there are NO consequences for looting
2005.09.02 [01:54] jowr: sad, actually...not when martial law is around
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2005.09.02 [01:54] johnboy: those bastards are criminals of the nth degree
2005.09.02 [01:54] ScaryFast: why do the looters care more about tv's, shoes, new clothes etc. than life? they're too overloaded in that crap and their trunks of stolen cars are too full of beer to fit any food and other essentials in there
2005.09.02 [01:54] amatroll: good riddance
2005.09.02 [01:54] wzldell: There are many infants and elderly people among them, as well as many people who were injured jumping out of windows to escape flood water and the like -- all of them in dire straights.
2005.09.02 [01:54] wzldell: ?
2005.09.02 [01:54] Fergasun: Glof: That's why the whole country is looting?
2005.09.02 [01:54] johnboy: they are rapists, thiefs, larsonists, arsonists....
2005.09.02 [01:55] wzldell: they had 4+ days
2005.09.02 [01:55] johnboy: fuck em
2005.09.02 [01:55] wzldell: to prepare
2005.09.02 [01:55] sent: this is way too .. fast.
2005.09.02 [01:55] bennyfactor: But there is no mattial law in Louisiana, they have no English Common Law
2005.09.02 [01:55] wzldell: then "jumped"
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2005.09.02 [01:55] wzldell: out of windows?
2005.09.02 [01:55] Fergasun: Glof: Because people from DC to Baltimore to New York are saying "We can loot, it's okay!"
2005.09.02 [01:55] Gloftoe: Ferg, where is the whole country looting?
2005.09.02 [01:55] amatroll: necessity is the mother of invention
2005.09.02 [01:55] sueil: looting is one thing but when you start shooting at the rescuers and hijacking buses for the refugees you need to get a serious smack down liad on you
2005.09.02 [01:55] Fergasun: Glof: EXACTLY
2005.09.02 [01:55] JupiterCo: they have NOTHING, them they can sell this stuff and get MONEY
2005.09.02 [01:55] CSMan: sent: you 'll get used to it.
2005.09.02 [01:55] Babylonian: johnboy:  do you want to drop daisy cutter bombs on New Orleans now
2005.09.02 [01:55] JupiterCo: ...
2005.09.02 [01:55] FCYTravis: Jeez, New Orleans PD in a FedEx truck with AK/SKS rifles:
2005.09.02 [01:55] FCYTravis: (Link: http://sigmund.biz/kat20050901%20part%202/Picture062.jpg)http://sigmund.biz/kat20050901%20part%202/Picture062.jpg
2005.09.02 [01:55] shrav: (Link: http://www.illwillpress.com/kat.html)http://www.illwillpress.com/kat.html
2005.09.02 [01:55] zardinuk: New Orleans is like one of the trashiest cities in the US
2005.09.02 [01:55] jconway963: you know this could be bush´s wet dream ... declare marshal law and remove congress and no more elections ...
2005.09.02 [01:55] Dolo: video games make hurricanes violent
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2005.09.02 [01:55] Gloftoe: Ferg, in NOLA, there are NO consequences (currently) for looting
2005.09.02 [01:55] nullagent: lmao
2005.09.02 [01:55] * snax tired and ready to head back over to her home server
2005.09.02 [01:55] df00z: MARTIAN law
2005.09.02 [01:55] amatroll: whats with all the links??
2005.09.02 [01:55] Gloftoe: they loot freely, and get away with it
2005.09.02 [01:55] acidstars: oh shit. i just saw footage of the floating bodies.
2005.09.02 [01:55] johnboy: your governor is too much of a queef to declare martial law
2005.09.02 [01:55] df00z: grab a bat
2005.09.02 [01:55] Gloftoe: agree or disagree?
2005.09.02 [01:55] Sad_and_Angry: I think Ferg is talking about Halliburton.  I could be wrong.
2005.09.02 [01:55] postmodern: bennyfactor, there's no material law but a state of emergancy has been declared
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2005.09.02 [01:55] * JupiterCo says "what server is that"?
2005.09.02 [01:55] AgentMulder: anyone see koppell giving it to Brown from FEMA?
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2005.09.02 [01:55] postmodern: bennyfactor, so i think that counts
2005.09.02 [01:55] argeto: zard: That's called 'culture'
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2005.09.02 [01:55] Encapsulate: johnboy: LA doesn't have martial law on their books.
2005.09.02 [01:55] eric: not a plug: but rocketboom just put up a touching vlog (Link: http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/09/rb_05_sep_01.html)http://www.rocketboom.com/vlog/archives/2005/09/rb_05_sep_01.html
2005.09.02 [01:55] Fergasun: Glof: Agree...
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2005.09.02 [01:56] bennyfactor: Yeah, but there are specific aspects of martial law that may or may not apply
2005.09.02 [01:56] Gloftoe: okay
2005.09.02 [01:56] buddylazier: I don't believe governors have that power
2005.09.02 [01:56] zardinuk: argeto: apparently
2005.09.02 [01:56] Gloftoe: so what's YOUR solution, Ferg?
2005.09.02 [01:56] johnboy: Encapsulate: you 100% sure?
2005.09.02 [01:56] snax: TexasEMT and voodoo, etc: feel free to ping me at cuckoo.net in #alg or at snaxxx@livejournal.com
2005.09.02 [01:56] buddylazier: Congress
2005.09.02 [01:56] Gloftoe: how would YOU stop them?
2005.09.02 [01:56] cemilbrowne: hey all:  any intercosmos personnel in here?
2005.09.02 [01:56] Gloftoe: they got no jails
2005.09.02 [01:56] * FyreHOU sighs.  Getting info from here with all the chat, impossible.
2005.09.02 [01:56] Fergasun: Glof: New Orleans is pretty much worthless right now except for the people, agree or disagree?
2005.09.02 [01:56] Gloftoe: no containment cells
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2005.09.02 [01:56] * FyreHOU shrugs
2005.09.02 [01:56] bennyfactor: Like the suspension of habeus corpus, posse comitatus etc
2005.09.02 [01:56] Encapsulate: johnboy: The T-P printed that Martial law was declared, and then ran a clarification on it.
2005.09.02 [01:56] Midas: CNN are full of morons, they are talking about that stupid Aruba girl again, WHO THE HELL CARES
2005.09.02 [01:56] * JupiterCo says "what info do you need" fyre?
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2005.09.02 [01:56] Gloftoe: disagree.  I amend your statement to say "worthless right nnow except for SOME people."
2005.09.02 [01:56] Babylonian: johnboy:  do you want to drop daisy cutter bombs on New Orleans now
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2005.09.02 [01:56] amatroll: look, we have a latin speaking nerd here!!
2005.09.02 [01:56] checkercab: (Link: http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_nolaview/archives/2005_09.html#075759)http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_nolaview/archives/2005_09.html#075759
2005.09.02 [01:56] spstarr: Midas: CNN is also World News too
2005.09.02 [01:56] bennyfactor: I have no familiarity with the LA legal system
2005.09.02 [01:56] JupiterCo: hola, que pasa?
2005.09.02 [01:56] Jumper_New_PC: I don't
2005.09.02 [01:56] jconway963: habeus corpus died with the patroit act
2005.09.02 [01:56] buddylazier: Martial law: (Link: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html)http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html
2005.09.02 [01:56] amatroll: bennyfactorLike the suspension of habeus corpus, posse comitatus etc
2005.09.02 [01:56] braniff: Fergasun, i agree
2005.09.02 [01:56] JupiterCo: nadie, ayudan?
2005.09.02 [01:57] johnboy: I almost became a lawyer...ahhh
2005.09.02 [01:57] Karnak: omg one suburban which chick is obviously more important than an entire city in chaos
2005.09.02 [01:57] ivan`: Aruba chick is so dead
2005.09.02 [01:57] Jumper_New_PC: that Aruba girl has gotten way too much attention
2005.09.02 [01:57] checkercab: man, that's just heartbreaking seeing those messages
2005.09.02 [01:57] Midas: I wouldn't call Aruba foreign
2005.09.02 [01:57] manfrin: Would you guys consider it tacky/innapropriate to set up some forums for this topic?
2005.09.02 [01:57] Karnak: white chick*
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2005.09.02 [01:57] wzldell: manfrin: yes
2005.09.02 [01:57] wankle: if aruba's nto foreign... what the fuck is?
2005.09.02 [01:57] comppimp: that girl deserved to be raped and killed
2005.09.02 [01:57] bennyfactor: amatroll: hmm?
2005.09.02 [01:57] zardinuk: the structures are mostly f'd
2005.09.02 [01:57] Jumper_New_PC: a girl disappeared who was the class behind me at my HS two years ago and the cops just ignored it
2005.09.02 [01:57] Gloftoe: Ferg:  In a city with no consequences, the criminials do what they want.  They loot/rape/murder.  With consequences?  Well, they stop or die.
2005.09.02 [01:57] wzldell: manfrin: pretty uch a ticket to hell
2005.09.02 [01:57] buddylazier: During the war of 1812, General Andrew Jackson imposed martial law within his encampment at New Orleans, which he had recently liberated. Martial law was also imposed in a four mile radius around the camp. When word came of the end of the war, Jackson maintained martial law, contending that he had not gotten official word of the peace.
2005.09.02 [01:57] Gloftoe: simple as that
2005.09.02 [01:57] JupiterCo: Manfrim: server will get overloaded probably
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2005.09.02 [01:57] acidstars: why bitch about the mount of chat in a chatroom?
2005.09.02 [01:57] Midas: How about a country that isn't full of vacationing white girls?
2005.09.02 [01:57] snax: play nice boys, and stay on topic or the ops will pull the whip out
2005.09.02 [01:57] buddylazier: so it wouldn't be the first time in NO
2005.09.02 [01:57] johnboy: On Aruba... that bitch was where she shouldn't have been... I went on senior trip... I did drugs... I am just like her
2005.09.02 [01:57] acidstars: err amount
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2005.09.02 [01:57] badger9: condolences from ohio badger society
2005.09.02 [01:57] Fergasun: Glof: Everyone in New Orleans right now is a looter... agree or disagree?
2005.09.02 [01:57] Encapsulate: johnboy: Getting info for you now.
2005.09.02 [01:57] doofoo-: (Link: http://www.nola-intel.org/pictures/)http://www.nola-intel.org/pictures/ , (Link: http://ods.org:8001/scan)http://ods.org:8001/scan feed 1, (Link: http://ods.org:8003/fema)http://ods.org:8003/fema feed 2
2005.09.02 [01:57] bennyfactor: Yeah, I read that Jackson case
2005.09.02 [01:57] mcsmurf: "There was no police response to the auto thefts until the mob reached the rich area -- Saulet Condos -- once they tried to get cars from there... well then the whole swat teams began showing up with rifles pointed. Snipers got on the roof and told people to get back."
2005.09.02 [01:57] amatroll: yes bennyfactor?
2005.09.02 [01:57] nysin: Midas: if it were anyone but that girl, I'd be glad CNN's covering anything but (the admittedly important, but not sole world event) NO aftermath
2005.09.02 [01:57] wankle: midas: good luck finding one of those!
2005.09.02 [01:57] mcsmurf: typical
2005.09.02 [01:58] spstarr: is Donny and friends from the French Quarter?
2005.09.02 [01:58] johnboy: thanks Encapsulate
2005.09.02 [01:58] Fergasun: I don't see how you can live right now without looting something...
2005.09.02 [01:58] Encapsulate: johnboy: (Link: http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_08.html#075262)http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_08.html#075262
2005.09.02 [01:58] nysin: She's no better though
2005.09.02 [01:58] Fergasun: be living right now...
2005.09.02 [01:58] wzldell: wtf is a badger
2005.09.02 [01:58] Gloftoe: Ferg:  disagree.  Not everyone that stayed in the city are looting.
2005.09.02 [01:58] snax: NOONE deservers to be raped and killed, that's inappropriate, and waaaay off-topic~
2005.09.02 [01:58] sent: badger badger
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2005.09.02 [01:58] Gloftoe: snax, it's not off topic
2005.09.02 [01:58] bennyfactor: amtroll: did you want clarification on what I said or did you just dupe me
2005.09.02 [01:58] * JupiterCo says "SNax, you the-man" even tho you're F
2005.09.02 [01:58] mcsmurf: wzldell: there's a funny website badger badger badger... ;)
2005.09.02 [01:58] acidstars: badger badger badger badger
2005.09.02 [01:58] Gloftoe: it's what's happening NOW in nola
2005.09.02 [01:58] amatroll: of-topic?? in a room set for "chatter"... yeah right
2005.09.02 [01:58] Midas: How about Nigeria? or Iraq even?
2005.09.02 [01:58] bennyfactor: buddylazier: Yeah, I saw that thing on Jackson earlier today
2005.09.02 [01:58] Encapsulate: johnboy: They have no martial law, but the state of emergency gives them a lot of wiggle room for action.
2005.09.02 [01:58] wzldell: mcsmurf: ?
2005.09.02 [01:58] snax: heh, thanks JupiterCo...
2005.09.02 [01:58] Q_Continuum: mushroom mushroom!
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2005.09.02 [01:58] mcsmurf: :D
2005.09.02 [01:58] Fergasun: Glof: I just have a problem shooting American citizens who have survived the hurricane ...
2005.09.02 [01:58] CSMan: Q_Continuum: heheh
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2005.09.02 [01:58] Encapsulate: Fergasun: You must be a commie.
2005.09.02 [01:59] bennyfactor: I'm not sure if that holds through since it was a state of war
2005.09.02 [01:59] JupiterCo: anyone use Undernet?
2005.09.02 [01:59] Fergasun: if they fire on police, then ROE apply...
2005.09.02 [01:59] spectros: yes, but the one difference is the people in that area didn't greet the swat teams with AK's of their own
2005.09.02 [01:59] zjohnson: CNN sucks ass.
2005.09.02 [01:59] spectros: ;)
2005.09.02 [01:59] ahhsumm: JupiterCo i do
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2005.09.02 [01:59] wzldell: manfrin: thanks, but i dont want to go to hell
2005.09.02 [01:59] zardinuk: new orleans was just waiting for a rodney king trial
2005.09.02 [01:59] amatroll: ROE?
2005.09.02 [01:59] snax: PLEASE don't feed the trolls...where's Soms??
2005.09.02 [01:59] spstarr: Webcam is 'offair'
2005.09.02 [01:59] acidstars: i havent seen the badger site in about a year. perhaps i'm due. hmmm.
2005.09.02 [01:59] BlackLotus: There's looting, then there's surviving.  people stealing t.v's, that's looting.  People looting food, water, clothes, blankets, - surviving.
2005.09.02 [01:59] wzldell: SNAX!@#R
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2005.09.02 [01:59] wzldell: ltns
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2005.09.02 [01:59] adownie: they decalred martial law early on....
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2005.09.02 [01:59] wzldell: how u been
2005.09.02 [01:59] Soms: here snax
2005.09.02 [01:59] checkercab: haven't used undernet in almost 6 years
2005.09.02 [01:59] Encapsulate: Fergasun: I said that with sarcasm.
2005.09.02 [01:59] Gloftoe: Ferg:  You have a problem shooting criminals that are out to steal property and cause havoc in a city that needs help?  Why do you think there isn't more aid in the city currently?  Aid workers DON'T WANT TO GO IN THERE.  They're scared of the asshat looters.
2005.09.02 [01:59] ir8d0g: hello there
2005.09.02 [01:59] Soms: who needs kicked
2005.09.02 [01:59] JupiterCo: #neworleans on Undernet....
2005.09.02 [01:59] amatroll: here snax
2005.09.02 [01:59] BlackLotus: I don't see much "martial law" in actual effect, myself.
2005.09.02 [01:59] Gloftoe: Ferg:  Desperate times call for desperate measures.
2005.09.02 [01:59] TexasEMT: Is anyone else here EMS or Medical personnel and has information on how to join/assist the relief efforts?
2005.09.02 [01:59] amatroll: snax, go fetch that stick for me please
2005.09.02 [01:59] zardinuk: undernet is still around?
2005.09.02 [01:59] johnboy: Encapsulate: thank you
2005.09.02 [01:59] Darkest_Ancient: I'd argue that shooting folks would cause much more panic, destruction, and havoc than is currently occurring
2005.09.02 [01:59] adownie: haven't done anything about it, since they were outmanned/outgunned
2005.09.02 [01:59] badger9: Soms: JupiterCo has been causing mad drama. =(
2005.09.02 [01:59] Midas: I don't think anyone needs blankets in Louisiana right now, so I would say that's looting
2005.09.02 [01:59] JupiterCo: Zard, more alive than ever
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2005.09.02 [01:59] Soms: .kickban JupiterCo be nice
2005.09.02 [01:59] wzldell: manfrin: thanks, but i dont want to go to hell
2005.09.02 [01:59] ir8d0g: Bobby from marrero here...living in New York for 1 1/2 years...family all from New Orleans
2005.09.02 [02:00] Encapsulate: johnboy: Anytime.
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2005.09.02 [02:00] bennyfactor: But does anyone know if this state of emergency suspended habeas corpus? (yeah yeah no patriot act jokes)
2005.09.02 [02:00] snacks: snacks
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2005.09.02 [02:00] Babylonian: Terry Ebbert, head of the city's emergency operations, warned that the slow evacuation at the Superdome had become an "incredibly explosive situation," and he bitterly complained that FEMA was not offering enough help.
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2005.09.02 [02:00] *** JupiterCo has been kicked from #interdictor-chat by Soms: be nice ·14·
2005.09.02 [02:00] n00bmaster: once the city is fully looted
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2005.09.02 [02:00] kishkumen: now, if the people in NO were smart and new anything about gurilla warfare, they could band together and use the remaining city infrastructre, the 20% of it that is not covered in water
2005.09.02 [02:00] ir8d0g: I have alot of information like the host of this irc room does
2005.09.02 [02:00] Babylonian:  "This is a national emergency. This is a national disgrace," he said. "FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control. We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can't bail out the city of New Orleans."
2005.09.02 [02:00] wzldell: once upon a snax
2005.09.02 [02:00] adownie: it's simple, if they light up one group of armed individuals...  it will get real quiet
2005.09.02 [02:00] kishkumen: ;-)
2005.09.02 [02:00] Darkest_Ancient: In fact, it could begin fullscape rioting and mass stampeding/mauling
2005.09.02 [02:00] Fergasun: Gloftoe: Looter is not the same thing as "shooting at first responder"
2005.09.02 [02:00] ir8d0g: who is the host...please pvt me
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2005.09.02 [02:00] Gloftoe: and for the record, I don't care if the looters who are stealing TVs, tons of shoes, etc. are white/black/yellow
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2005.09.02 [02:00] Gloftoe: deal with them all equally
2005.09.02 [02:00] Fergasun: Anyone who opens fire on frst responders should be shot....
2005.09.02 [02:00] Jumper_New_PC: i'm out.  best of luck to Interdictor & Co keeping the net running.....you're awesome
2005.09.02 [02:00] snax: Soms: <comppimp> that girl deserved to be raped and killed
2005.09.02 [02:00] Fergasun: people stealing TVs are just stupid...
2005.09.02 [02:00] Babylonian: only *one* shot was *supposedly* fired
2005.09.02 [02:00] kyhwana: they need armed escort to get to the generator..
2005.09.02 [02:00] Babylonian: that's not even confirmed
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2005.09.02 [02:00] Soms: take care of it your the op
2005.09.02 [02:00] wzldell: snax: thats mean
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2005.09.02 [02:00] wzldell: and uncalled for
2005.09.02 [02:00] Gloftoe: People stealing TVs and such are contributing to the problems as a whole
2005.09.02 [02:01] cemilbrowne: Are there any Directnic/Intercosmos personnel on right now?
2005.09.02 [02:01] acidstars: whoa. he said that?
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2005.09.02 [02:01] Encapsulate: kishkumen: That's probably the best idea for them.    Since the buses will take them to where they can live an increased life of poverty and destitution.   They should move to the good part of the city, stock and ration water, until the city can be pumped out and cleaned up.
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2005.09.02 [02:01] Babylonian: Gloftoe:  the TVs are trashed anyway
2005.09.02 [02:01] Babylonian: who cares
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2005.09.02 [02:01] acidstars: yay for trolls =/
2005.09.02 [02:01] Fergasun: Glof: How so?
2005.09.02 [02:01] snax2: solcita is the operator
2005.09.02 [02:01] snax: oops, Jupiter was a misfire
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2005.09.02 [02:01] solcita: 'kay, guys, no tattletelling either.
2005.09.02 [02:01] wzldell: snax: wishing rape on anyone is wrong dude
2005.09.02 [02:01] Gloftoe: Babylonian:  It's the idea of the "no holds barred criminals"
2005.09.02 [02:01] AgentMulder: maybe if food & water was dropped in a timely fashion there would've been less unrest
2005.09.02 [02:01] oral_b: President Bush was campaigning in San Diego after hurricane katrina struck
2005.09.02 [02:01] ir8d0g: who are the guys on the live feed?
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2005.09.02 [02:01] snax: my sentiments exactly
2005.09.02 [02:01] BeanFriedPork: If there are any Directnic personel here, they are here watching anonymously.
2005.09.02 [02:01] Gloftoe: Ferg:  By perpetrating lawlessness all over New Orleans
2005.09.02 [02:01] Sad_and_Angry: Here's the thing - we all can agree that the selfish, vicious looting and violence is reprehensible.  But should that be our focus?  Shouldn't we be concentrating on helping the huge majority who are NOT thugs and thieves?
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2005.09.02 [02:01] Encapsulate: kishkumen: Sitting on their butts waiting for the stream of 10,000 buses, will only lead to dehydration.
2005.09.02 [02:01] Gloftoe: The aid workers don't want to go into the city
2005.09.02 [02:01] snax2: all hail the solicita!
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2005.09.02 [02:01] BlackLotus: Heh, times like this when I wish being an oper was server wide on -every server.
2005.09.02 [02:01] zardinuk: lol JupiterCo was annoying we can do without
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2005.09.02 [02:01] AgentMulder: right on S&A
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2005.09.02 [02:02] Darkest_Ancient: well, there is looting, which is a secondary concer, and then there are the roving gangs that are looting and shooting
2005.09.02 [02:02] BlackLotus: Amen.
2005.09.02 [02:02] Darkest_Ancient: which are a huge problem
2005.09.02 [02:02] spectros: ir8dog:they are folks tuffing it out in NO
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2005.09.02 [02:02] jconway963: send them all prozac
2005.09.02 [02:02] bennyfactor: oral_b: remember, NOLA didn't start flooding until about a day after Katrina
2005.09.02 [02:02] Encapsulate: BlackLotus: Heh, I only use my * for good, and ever evil.
2005.09.02 [02:02] snax: wzldell: no, i was repeating for the op what was wrong, i wasnt SAYINg that
2005.09.02 [02:02] jconway963: lol
2005.09.02 [02:02] adownie: Sad_and_Angry: how can you help when you are taking fire?
2005.09.02 [02:02] snax: thanks Soms!
2005.09.02 [02:02] snax2: prozac?? LOL
2005.09.02 [02:02] adownie: it's a vicious circle unfortunately
2005.09.02 [02:02] johnboy: what is the latest on the first in the superdome?
2005.09.02 [02:02] postmodern: ok first off, are their evidence of gangs looting?
2005.09.02 [02:02] Darkest_Ancient: doctors and rescue workers are being shot and sniped at... that tends to slow down any efforts at relief
2005.09.02 [02:02] johnboy: fires
2005.09.02 [02:02] Babylonian: adownie:  ONLY ONE SHOT WAS FIRED
2005.09.02 [02:02] johnboy: not first
2005.09.02 [02:02] postmodern: or is the looting just single people
2005.09.02 [02:02] * BlackLotus grins. It has it's uses. I use mine as the situation warrants. ;)
2005.09.02 [02:02] bennyfactor: oral_b: Not that I necessarily approve Bush's message of being in SD for VJ day
2005.09.02 [02:02] ir8d0g: who is the admin here...please private msg me...i have help that could benefit new orleans
2005.09.02 [02:02] postmodern: and are their multiple accounts of this
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2005.09.02 [02:02] postmodern: or is this just panic talk
2005.09.02 [02:02] adownie: ummmm, more than one was fired
2005.09.02 [02:03] Babylonian: adownie:  wrong
2005.09.02 [02:03] BlackLotus: It's gangs - the looting.
2005.09.02 [02:03] Sad_and_Angry: Ad: keep your head down and screw up your courage, that's how.
2005.09.02 [02:03] Darkest_Ancient: according to the blog there are
2005.09.02 [02:03] mcsmurf: btw: WHat did they do with the people in jail, carry away to others before the hurricane?
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2005.09.02 [02:03] zardinuk: ir8d0g: you got a virus, huh?
2005.09.02 [02:03] zardinuk: lol
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2005.09.02 [02:03] adownie: having been on the receiving end of fire...  it's not that easy
2005.09.02 [02:03] Darkest_Ancient: in fact they've had quite a bit of it on the live feed in the past few days
2005.09.02 [02:03] snax2: yes mcsmurf.. they are safe
2005.09.02 [02:03] ir8d0g: what?
2005.09.02 [02:03] postmodern: BlackLotus, how many gangs and how many times are they spotted
2005.09.02 [02:03] Encapsulate: ir8d0g: If you release it to everyone, you reach a better audience, and more people who could likely help.
2005.09.02 [02:03] acidstars: this cant be happening.
2005.09.02 [02:03] BlackLotus: There are people trying to survive.. and then there are criminals wandering around harassing, assaulting people.
2005.09.02 [02:03] snax2: .. in ur neighborhood
2005.09.02 [02:03] ir8d0g: why would i have a virus
2005.09.02 [02:03] comppimp: hi?
2005.09.02 [02:03] spectros: ir8dig:if you want to help check out #norecue
2005.09.02 [02:03] yume_no_hikari: mcsmurf: inmates in county were released iirc
2005.09.02 [02:03] Dopefish`: someone needs to bring a giant sponge to new orleans to soak up all the water
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2005.09.02 [02:03] ir8d0g: no...i'm not talking about any of that
2005.09.02 [02:03] postmodern: BlackLotus, we got to back these things up with evidence not just conjecture
2005.09.02 [02:03] ir8d0g: i work for microsoft
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2005.09.02 [02:03] BlackLotus: Not sure.  But they are traveling in small packs.  I'm seeing this all on CNN.
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2005.09.02 [02:03] mcsmurf: snax2: :P
2005.09.02 [02:03] zardinuk: thats your secret thing that can help society
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2005.09.02 [02:03] ir8d0g: i can give software for the efforts, but didn't really want to say that publicly
2005.09.02 [02:03] Me2NiK: How does working for microsoft help anything?
2005.09.02 [02:03] BlackLotus: it's not conjecture.  I have far better things to do than spread panic and lies, man.
2005.09.02 [02:03] cowmix2: someone at my work says that over 80% of the national guard is still in the states.. is that true?
2005.09.02 [02:04] Encapsulate: yume_no_hikari: They were transfered by bus to another facility
2005.09.02 [02:04] solcita: ir8d0g: i think there's still an interdictor-tech channel where you can offer help.
2005.09.02 [02:04] drake2: a giant sponge?
2005.09.02 [02:04] snax2: Dopefish, thats brilliant!! just brilliant
2005.09.02 [02:04] BlackLotus: I have friends there, missing.
2005.09.02 [02:04] adownie: and there was more than one shot fired...  cop got shot in the head, the sniper today, the ambulance company was threatened (okay, that wasn't a shot, but still)
2005.09.02 [02:04] postmodern: BlackLotus, well is CNN giving real evidence or is this conjecture
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2005.09.02 [02:04] comppimp: what was the kick for?
2005.09.02 [02:04] jconway963: give microshaft software .... they need something that works
2005.09.02 [02:04] snax2: u sure u not looking for a tampon though?
2005.09.02 [02:04] johnboy: where the hell are all the criminals from the jails... you know... the ones the actually caught
2005.09.02 [02:04] drake2: maybe that is a way to fix the below sea level problem, just build the whole town back on top of a giant sponge
2005.09.02 [02:04] acidstars: BlackLotus > i hope they turn up soon and well.
2005.09.02 [02:04] BlackLotus: Yes, it's all over it.  Watch it for an hour.  It's -there-.
2005.09.02 [02:04] postmodern: BlackLotus, I've seen plenty a natural disassater where news stations fill space with just making vague reports
2005.09.02 [02:04] Dopefish`: lol snax
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2005.09.02 [02:04] ir8d0g: come on now...give up on the microsoft stuff doesn't work...do some research
2005.09.02 [02:04] cemilbrowne: once more:  Anyone from intercosmos/directnic online now?
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2005.09.02 [02:04] TexasEMT: Is anyone else here EMS or Medical personnel, or has information on who/what agencies are looking for certified medical personnel?
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2005.09.02 [02:04] BlackLotus: These aren't vague.  A shin nook being shot at?  I believe that.
2005.09.02 [02:04] ir8d0g: objective research...not from either point of view
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2005.09.02 [02:04] snax: okay, i thought for a second Soms set up snax2 as an autobot
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2005.09.02 [02:05] Me2NiK: You do some research, microsoft products aren't the most stable ones in the world.
2005.09.02 [02:05] Jerub: BlackLotus: chinook.
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2005.09.02 [02:05] snax2: whats a autobot, snax?
2005.09.02 [02:05] matty: yeah try #interdictor if its important
2005.09.02 [02:05] * snax thought she was going a little bonker
2005.09.02 [02:05] acidstars: yea, lets dump an entire tampax factory into new orleans
2005.09.02 [02:05] BlackLotus: You have to understand the mentality of these people.  NO is a poor city, impoverished *already* under the best of circumstances.
2005.09.02 [02:05] Cenobyte: why are they shooting at people trying to rescue them?
2005.09.02 [02:05] solcita: TexasEMT: give me a sec, I'll see if I can find some.
2005.09.02 [02:05] ir8d0g: no...and neither are any of the others when you get down to it
2005.09.02 [02:05] ben: postmodern: Thanks, mplayer-bin is working nicely and getting along with regular mplayer fine :)
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2005.09.02 [02:05] snax: an autobot sends messages based on a trigger
2005.09.02 [02:05] wankle: acid: haha awesome
2005.09.02 [02:05] shibbbers: probably shooting for the fun of it
2005.09.02 [02:05] BlackLotus: Thanks, Jerub.  I didn't pay attention to the spelling.
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2005.09.02 [02:05] postmodern: ben, excellent
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2005.09.02 [02:05] rick-orlando: Solar-powered water pumps would help more than s/w...
2005.09.02 [02:05] Encapsulate: snax: Optimus!
2005.09.02 [02:05] vxla: prolly shooting so that they can be arrested and taken away!
2005.09.02 [02:05] Klowner: I wish cnn had a live web feed
2005.09.02 [02:05] johnboy: I like the tampax joke about new orleans... maybe the looters will die from toxic shock syndrome
2005.09.02 [02:05] Darkest_Ancient: Suddenly "Lord of the Flies" is no longer a quaint little book you read in tenth grade, eh?
2005.09.02 [02:05] snax2: not to worry... this is a plain old human...
2005.09.02 [02:06] badger9: Klowner: you should check out a TV
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2005.09.02 [02:06] zardinuk: BlackLotus: I do understand these people, steal some guns and shoot the pigs, they're gangs out there
2005.09.02 [02:06] Midas: What the hell happened to the webcam?
2005.09.02 [02:06] ir8d0g: if you want to have an intelligent conversation about it, that's fine...but just bashing cause that's what the religious leaders say is nother thing...hehe
2005.09.02 [02:06] spectros: oh please...tell me you aren't going to start a MS flame war
2005.09.02 [02:06] Klowner: badger9: don't have cable/satellite ;/
2005.09.02 [02:06] spectros: :|
2005.09.02 [02:06] wankle: didn't you hear?
2005.09.02 [02:06] johnboy: I think we should kill Hugo Chavez.... joking
2005.09.02 [02:06] ir8d0g: i know....leave the flame stuff out of it
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2005.09.02 [02:06] snax2: yes... a MS flame war!! thats exaxctly what we need!
2005.09.02 [02:06] wankle: God killed NOLA because it was full of fags
2005.09.02 [02:06] Encapsulate: They're shooting, because they are angry, and helpless, and have been for a LONG, LONG, LOOOOONG time.
2005.09.02 [02:06] wankle: Fred Phelps says so
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2005.09.02 [02:06] snax: snax2: Autobot...the funniest is one we have set for me friend Decibel. any time he references food or eating, it relates religiously. When's dinner? and an autobot called the Pope says: When's Mass?
2005.09.02 [02:06] snax2: God?
2005.09.02 [02:06] badger9: Klowner: Where do you live?
2005.09.02 [02:06] buddylazier: what about MS and AL
2005.09.02 [02:06] acidstars: at least no one's running around in loin cloths screaming "kill the pig! slit its throat! drink it's blood!"  . . . or whatever it is they were screamign
2005.09.02 [02:06] zardinuk: Encapsulate: that's bullshit
2005.09.02 [02:06] johnboy: wankle: that is a popular belief amongst many circles
2005.09.02 [02:06] Klowner: badger9: Iowa
2005.09.02 [02:06] wankle: buddy: colladeral damage
2005.09.02 [02:07] * snax gets back ontopic
2005.09.02 [02:07] buddylazier: haha
2005.09.02 [02:07] zardinuk: Encapsulate: you're making them out to be innocent when they're shooting people with guns they stole?
2005.09.02 [02:07] jconway963: friends don´t let friends use windows
2005.09.02 [02:07] wankle: john: I know, and it's fucking pathetic
2005.09.02 [02:07] badger9: Klowner: oh, so you weren't hurricaned, yer just cheap.
2005.09.02 [02:07] jconway963: :)
2005.09.02 [02:07] Klowner: badger9: right :)
2005.09.02 [02:07] johnboy: yeah
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2005.09.02 [02:07] johnboy: I agree wankle
2005.09.02 [02:07] Encapsulate: zardinuk: No... not at all.
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2005.09.02 [02:07] snax2: i need a good irc tutorial... am a newbie!!
2005.09.02 [02:07] Sad_and_Angry: I was kinda hoping Pat robertson could pray the hurricane down to Venezuala.
2005.09.02 [02:07] Encapsulate: zardinuk: Watch
2005.09.02 [02:07] Me2NiK: Wankle, I'm willing to bet half the people here don't believe in the existance of a god, and even if it was real, god wouldn't kill thousands of innocents to smite the thousands of sinners.
2005.09.02 [02:07] evil_saltine: Same guy who said Mr. Rogers was going to hell
2005.09.02 [02:07] Encapsulate: The people who are shooting, aren't at fault, because they're poor.
2005.09.02 [02:07] Encapsulate: They need our love, not the law.
2005.09.02 [02:07] evil_saltine: phelps i mean
2005.09.02 [02:07] postmodern: snax, (Link: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html)http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
2005.09.02 [02:07] zardinuk: ok, just making sure, those people need to die that're taking cheap shots
2005.09.02 [02:07] buddylazier: Does anyone think the news media are doing a good job?
2005.09.02 [02:07] BlackLotus: Okay, shooting at rescue efforts is way wrong, stupid.  But desperate times..  People are trying to survive.
2005.09.02 [02:07] Encapsulate: zardinuk: There, now I made them out to be innocent.
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2005.09.02 [02:07] shibbbers: I thought the national guard brough MRE's to the convention center when this all started.  Did they run out? Why are people hungry?
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2005.09.02 [02:07] johnboy: Sad_and_Angry: that is some funny shit...
2005.09.02 [02:08] Cenobyte: Pat Robinson is an asshole
2005.09.02 [02:08] adownie: and people wonder why I have 30 days of supplies and my rifles in my "go to war" room....
2005.09.02 [02:08] Encapsulate: zardinuk: And that was bullshit.
2005.09.02 [02:08] BlackLotus: Frustrated, starving, tired, wading through water for days now.
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2005.09.02 [02:08] zjohnson: buddy: no..
2005.09.02 [02:08] snax2: thanks postmodern... i will quit trolling now. thansk again!! :)
2005.09.02 [02:08] BlackLotus: Pat Robinson can rot.
2005.09.02 [02:08] Klowner: yeah, people shooting at rescue helicopters? exactly what are they trying to accomplish?
2005.09.02 [02:08] johnboy: I agree
2005.09.02 [02:08] BlackLotus: (He's a complete moron.)
2005.09.02 [02:08] AgentMulder: buddy: a fair job at best
2005.09.02 [02:08] Encapsulate: zardinuk: Them taking shots at people doesn't remove the fact that they're angry.
2005.09.02 [02:08] Darkest_Ancient: Pat Robertson is nothing:  (Link: http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/20050831_thank-god-for-katrina.html)http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/20050831_thank-god-for-katrina.html
2005.09.02 [02:08] checkercab: the people who are shooting are hurting others and perhaps contributing indirectly to the deaths of many. they must be stopped
2005.09.02 [02:08] snax: snax2: good luck!
2005.09.02 [02:08] jconway963: now now George W Robinson said he was sorry
2005.09.02 [02:08] Encapsulate: zardinuk: Them being guilty of it, doesn't remove the cause.
2005.09.02 [02:08] buddylazier: I think it's almost as bad as the reporting during the Iraq war
2005.09.02 [02:08] zardinuk: you got your looters, just want some stuff, ok leave them but kill the gangsters running around with guns shooting at EMT's
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2005.09.02 [02:08] rick-orlando: My house is full of canned goods and shotgun shells.  Of course, I live in FL...
2005.09.02 [02:08] ColloquySucks: if God killed NOLA because of the fags, why did he spare the French Quarter?
2005.09.02 [02:08] acidstars: according to interdictor's last update, they (the NG) basically dropped a lot of the things they brought in, breaking them and rendering them useless
2005.09.02 [02:08] postmodern: BlackLotus, ironically Hugo Chavez is giving the US aid because of the hurricane
2005.09.02 [02:08] Encapsulate: zardinuk: It's ok... you can show pity for them.
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2005.09.02 [02:08] AgentMulder: wwl is doing awesome
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2005.09.02 [02:08] zardinuk: Encapsulate: if I'm angry that doesn't give me the right to kill someone
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2005.09.02 [02:08] acidstars: i dont know if that applies to MREs, or if MREs were taken
2005.09.02 [02:08] wankle: colloquy: excellent point
2005.09.02 [02:08] Babylonian: postmodern:  he offered but the US refused *all* aid
2005.09.02 [02:08] buddylazier: official bias just permeates their coverage
2005.09.02 [02:08] Babylonian: canada got refused
2005.09.02 [02:09] bennyfactor: Chavez is a crazy guy
2005.09.02 [02:09] johnboy: I love Hugo Chavez
2005.09.02 [02:09] Babylonian: germany got refused
2005.09.02 [02:09] badger9: zardinuk: sometimes.. jk
2005.09.02 [02:09] Encapsulate: zardinuk: Did I ever say it gave them the right?
2005.09.02 [02:09] Babylonian: russia got refused
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2005.09.02 [02:09] Sad_and_Angry: That is truly ironic.
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2005.09.02 [02:09] Babylonian: germany got refused
2005.09.02 [02:09] bennyfactor: I spent a month in Venezuela last summer
2005.09.02 [02:09] Cellulaer: Bush said he wasn't taking any aid lol
2005.09.02 [02:09] acidstars: like 20 countries offered and we turned them all down
2005.09.02 [02:09] postmodern: Babylonian, wow my respect for the current administration just sank
2005.09.02 [02:09] n00bmaster: the american governement is stupid
2005.09.02 [02:09] wankle: Chavez is a little nuts, but I love him
2005.09.02 [02:09] BlackLotus: I'm witnessing a lot of irony, postmodern.
2005.09.02 [02:09] johnboy: bennfactor: my g/f just came back from a mission trip there
2005.09.02 [02:09] postmodern: Babylonian, that's flat out pathetic
2005.09.02 [02:09] bennyfactor: gas is 20c gallon, more or less
2005.09.02 [02:09] buddylazier: except for the Cooper/Landrieu thing
2005.09.02 [02:09] shibbbers: I don't get why they aren't just dumping food in containers in locations around the city
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2005.09.02 [02:09] johnboy: she's a med schooler
2005.09.02 [02:09] zardinuk: Encapsulate: seems like that's what you're saying, they're angry, you just have to "UNDERSTAND"
2005.09.02 [02:09] Babylonian: Bush refused all foreign aid while people die :(
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2005.09.02 [02:09] Darkest_Ancient: all governments are stupid
2005.09.02 [02:09] joeldg: (Link: http://www.repentamerica.com/pr_hurricanekatrina.html)http://www.repentamerica.com/pr_hurricanekatrina.html the southern baptists are all happy about it
2005.09.02 [02:09] snax2: thanks snax... I will need lots of it. just a bit disoriented with allthis stuff going on... its as if people just care about themselves all the time.. doesnt matter whats going on :( anyway
2005.09.02 [02:09] adownie: the U.S. didn't refuse any aid, they just said they have to assess the needs first
2005.09.02 [02:09] postmodern: BlackLotus, this is the year of irony
2005.09.02 [02:09] wankle: he's a troll... and we need some good trolls in the US just like we do on the internet
2005.09.02 [02:09] Babylonian: Russia offered helicopters
2005.09.02 [02:09] Darkest_Ancient: the bigger they get, the dumber, so the US government is disproportionately stupid
2005.09.02 [02:09] Irony_: :P
2005.09.02 [02:09] bennyfactor: I was in Barinas, where the mayor is his "brother-cousin" Julio Cesar Reyes
2005.09.02 [02:09] Encapsulate: zardinuk: yea, you do have to UNDERSTAND because if you don't, you never make things better.
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2005.09.02 [02:09] acidstars: and people are going to be bitching and moaning about how the international community is selfish and evil and hates us and wont offer help, heh.
2005.09.02 [02:10] Babylonian: yup
2005.09.02 [02:10] CSMan: Babylonian: they already sent a couple of cargo planes
2005.09.02 [02:10] Encapsulate: zardinuk: Say... lets just throw criminals in jail and never re-educate them.  They'll do their time, and they won't reoffend when they get out!
2005.09.02 [02:10] adownie: my understanding (from one of the papers) is that we are considering bringing in the dutch with their flood experience
2005.09.02 [02:10] Babylonian: CSMan:  who
2005.09.02 [02:10] NESinOC: Good evening.. hoping that things improve..  Bush is an idiot
2005.09.02 [02:10] AgentMulder: the int'l communicty has already offered us help
2005.09.02 [02:10] snax: snax2: this is a big forum, feel free to visit ours at cuckoo.net #alg, people who will help you learn!!
2005.09.02 [02:10] johnboy: bennyfactor: not sure where she went, but she had a good, productive time
2005.09.02 [02:10] CSMan: Babylonian: .ru
2005.09.02 [02:10] Encapsulate: zardinuk: Who cares why the hell they did it!
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2005.09.02 [02:10] Babylonian: AgentMulder:  but we didn't take it
2005.09.02 [02:10] Sad_and_Angry: Understanding, knowledge...these are good things.
2005.09.02 [02:10] Fergasun: wankle: I actually heard this... "For a judgment is coming," says the Spirit of the Lord, "and I will take the men that have stood in faith and raise them above the flood that shall destroy those that constantly bicker and stand against my servant Moses, or my servant Bilbo. I want you to understand there are great men in New Orleans that have faith, but you have been set aside, not to lose but to win."  (dated 7/22/05)
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2005.09.02 [02:10] buddylazier: Sumi!
2005.09.02 [02:10] snax: snax2: total geeks, I was in your shoes two years ago but they learned me good!
2005.09.02 [02:10] BlackLotus: postmodern:  agreed.
2005.09.02 [02:10] johnboy: What is this shit about us turning down international help???? Is that ture?
2005.09.02 [02:10] Encapsulate: zardinuk: My crops all died, and my family is hungry.  WHO CARES WHY!
2005.09.02 [02:10] zardinuk: Encapsulate: eye for an eye
2005.09.02 [02:10] Babylonian: Fergasun:  bilbo?
2005.09.02 [02:10] john_: no way we turned down aid
2005.09.02 [02:10] adownie: no johnboy...
2005.09.02 [02:10] Encapsulate: zardinuk: Leaves a lot of blind people.
2005.09.02 [02:10] Klowner: Fergasun: bilbo? the hobbit?
2005.09.02 [02:10] Babylonian: john_:  yes
2005.09.02 [02:10] johnboy: aight
2005.09.02 [02:11] Fergasun: I don't know who Bilbo is...
2005.09.02 [02:11] johnboy: wow... mixed signals
2005.09.02 [02:11] adownie: we put it on hold
2005.09.02 [02:11] john_: that is bush bashing BS
2005.09.02 [02:11] acidstars: yea, and a lot of people are either going to remain ignorant to the fact that it was offered and/or uh, refuse to believe they offered in the flirst place
2005.09.02 [02:11] BlackLotus: That's not true is it?
2005.09.02 [02:11] Babylonian: john_:  nope it's the truth
2005.09.02 [02:11] AgentMulder: i hadn't heard/read that we turned it down, just that we hadn't taken up on the UN's offer for DR coordination
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2005.09.02 [02:11] acidstars: john_ : yeah, we did.
2005.09.02 [02:11] snax: john_: afraid not
2005.09.02 [02:11] Cellulaer: johnboy: some article had bush quited.. the chief of staff guy said he would take aid offers
2005.09.02 [02:11] wankle: we turned down a vague offer from Chavez, but that was weeks ago
2005.09.02 [02:11] buddylazier: (Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090101542.html)http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090101542.html
2005.09.02 [02:11] Fergasun: just got that in the e-mail from someone...
2005.09.02 [02:11] john_: according to who?
2005.09.02 [02:11] acidstars: no, it's not bush bashing bullshit.
2005.09.02 [02:11] wankle: it's unrelated to this
2005.09.02 [02:11] john_: bushissatan.org?
2005.09.02 [02:11] * adownie sighs
2005.09.02 [02:11] jconway963: yep bush and bs do go together
2005.09.02 [02:11] buddylazier: Aid Offers Will Be Accepted From Countries
2005.09.02 [02:11] BlackLotus: mmhmm.
2005.09.02 [02:11] zardinuk: Encapsulate: you aught to go re-educate those murderers, that aught to be your job
2005.09.02 [02:11] postmodern: wankle, not vague, an offer in the form of food and oil
2005.09.02 [02:11] snax: no bush bashing in this channel, have to take it elsewhere. What he is stating is not op, but fact.
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2005.09.02 [02:11] bennyfactor: I'm sure snopes is already having a field day with these rumors
2005.09.02 [02:12] wankle: post: it was not a specific offer
2005.09.02 [02:12] Cenobyte: all those religious fucktards who think this was some sort of revenge from god should go off themselves
2005.09.02 [02:12] Encapsulate: zardinuk: So uh... under your eye for an eye plan, what would you do, if you were in danger, and you felt like you were being ignored, and YOUR life being put in peril by people who had nice warm houses to go home to?
2005.09.02 [02:12] bennyfactor: I live about a mile and a half from one of the terminii of the panhandle eastern pipeline
2005.09.02 [02:12] eric: one last rumor i want to clear up: if u have an open cut, r u in serious risk of getting infected no matter where u are in the city?
2005.09.02 [02:12] john_: Cenobyte: agreed
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2005.09.02 [02:12] johnboy: Encapsulate: as someone who spent an appreciable amount of time in Nola... nearly crying as a grown man because I was lost in teh project... the fucktards that are there are incapable of being educated
2005.09.02 [02:12] checkercab: cenobyte, don't add to the problem
2005.09.02 [02:12] zardinuk: I would definately not start killing people! god damn
2005.09.02 [02:12] Dopefish`: (Link: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/08/30/national/evac.184.1.650.jpg)http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/08/30/national/evac.184.1.650.jpg
2005.09.02 [02:12] postmodern: snax, no bashing indeed, but if the info is correct and valid and it is not positive of the bush administration, it should not be withheld, for it is the truth
2005.09.02 [02:12] johnboy: Encapsulate: they must know how to speak first hand... and they can't do that even
2005.09.02 [02:12] Fergasun: benny: But what's worse is seeing the Governor cover up stuff....
2005.09.02 [02:12] bennyfactor: And there were plenty of trucks rolling out of there yesterday, so these gas shortage things I'm not seeing
2005.09.02 [02:12] snax: eric: depends, exposed to contaminated water??
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2005.09.02 [02:12] CSMan: i really like the scanner thing.
2005.09.02 [02:12] * CSMan takes notes.
2005.09.02 [02:12] BlackLotus: Govenor of Lousiana, Fergasun?
2005.09.02 [02:13] snax: postmodern: agreed
2005.09.02 [02:13] wankle: what's everyone paying for gas in their area?
2005.09.02 [02:13] * BlackLotus does too, CSMan.
2005.09.02 [02:13] john_: yeah, scanner is awesome.....i love the internet
2005.09.02 [02:13] Sad_and_Angry: Actually, this morning Bush did say he did not expect foreign aid, nor did we need it- then this afternoon Condi said we welcomed and were grateful for it.  Flip floppers!
2005.09.02 [02:13] johnboy: I'm wondering what kind of nasty diseases are about to ravage the area
2005.09.02 [02:13] BlackLotus: Thanks for the hook up.
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2005.09.02 [02:13] Babylonian: "When members of the Louisiana National Guard left for Iraq in October, they took a lot equipment with them. Dozens of high water vehicles, humvees, refuelers and generators are now abroad, and in the event of a major natural disaster that, could be a problem."
2005.09.02 [02:13] joeldg: johnboy, I got lost in the 9th ward once after the police dropped me off there.. not a fun time..
2005.09.02 [02:13] wankle: I paid $2.89 for regular, Seattle, WA
2005.09.02 [02:13] Encapsulate: johnboy: Yea... I tend to agree with you there... but zardinuk here paints a different picture than what you're saying.
2005.09.02 [02:13] eric: contaiminated water meaning, any of the stagnent water, right?
2005.09.02 [02:13] Alizar: Whew, my wrists are tired from typing.
2005.09.02 [02:13] zardinuk: what pictures is that?
2005.09.02 [02:13] checkercab: gas was 2.68 here on monday, 2.73 on tuesday, 2.79 wednesday, 2.93 yesterday (though it was up to 3.19 a few miles away) here in Herndon, VA
2005.09.02 [02:13] Klowner: wankle: saw $2.99 as I left work tonight in eastern Iowa
2005.09.02 [02:13] * BlackLotus paid 2.98 yesterday for regular unleaded.
2005.09.02 [02:13] Encapsulate: johnboy: We're talking on a different level than him.
2005.09.02 [02:13] Fergasun: Black: During her 8:30 pm press conference... she had an attidue "Everything at the Superdome is under control, National Guard wasn't shot..." more like denial
2005.09.02 [02:13] john_: who is upping it from NOLA, i thought everywhere was sans power (this would include routers, infastructer et)
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2005.09.02 [02:13] johnboy: joeldg: no shit...
2005.09.02 [02:13] zardinuk: I say if someone is out there killing EMTs you send a chopper in there to annihilate him
2005.09.02 [02:13] Hazard: 3.40 for premium in ohio L/
2005.09.02 [02:13] UJoF: eric: pretty much
2005.09.02 [02:13] johnboy: yeah what picture is that?
2005.09.02 [02:13] ivan`: $4 in a few weeks
2005.09.02 [02:13] UJoF: Do you have anything to clean the wound with?
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2005.09.02 [02:14] eric: no
2005.09.02 [02:14] Hazard: directnic.com is based in NOLA and is still up
2005.09.02 [02:14] Klowner: premium is probably $3.50 here too
2005.09.02 [02:14] Babylonian: The FEMA Manager reminds of of 'Baghdad Bob' .. he is so full of crap
2005.09.02 [02:14] Encapsulate: zardinuk: Oddly enough, I agree.   But 1 person doing it, isn't 10,000.
2005.09.02 [02:14] Alizar: Man, my wrists are tired.
2005.09.02 [02:14] Hazard: they have 3 weeks of power
2005.09.02 [02:14] ivan`: gas went down to a dollar in 1998 or so?
2005.09.02 [02:14] snax: Sad_and_Angry: well, look at how the situation in the Tsunami area changed in regards to our contribution. After his assessment tomorrow, it may very well change
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2005.09.02 [02:14] joeldg: no shit johnboy, very not fun..
2005.09.02 [02:14] eric: maybe some napkins
2005.09.02 [02:14] bennyfactor: Yeah, it was fifty dollars today to fill up my passat wagon at shell
2005.09.02 [02:14] UJoF: eric: How big and where is the wound?
2005.09.02 [02:14] bennyfactor: But they're always more expensive
2005.09.02 [02:14] zardinuk: yeah, I already said let the looters loot, that was pretty obvious, you're changing your position, nut
2005.09.02 [02:14] johnboy: joeldg: my g/f, before we dated, had a roommate that dated a ninth ward soldier
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2005.09.02 [02:14] Fergasun: It wouldn't surprise me if FEMA took all the gas their gonna need for the relief work... it takes a bunch of gas to orchestrate this...
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2005.09.02 [02:14] Encapsulate: zardinuk: And ignoring the reasons behind it, is just as pointless as two white guys talking about it on the internet.
2005.09.02 [02:14] Babylonian: snax:  I can assess it on TV.. it's fuxored.. the people need some water and sandwiches
2005.09.02 [02:14] john_: get bikes guys....a nice trek 4300 for 340 bucks :)
2005.09.02 [02:14] BlackLotus: One of my burning questions is; why hasn't the President put a price freeze on gas?
2005.09.02 [02:14] johnboy: joeldg: talk about some shit
2005.09.02 [02:14] bennyfactor: But I figure I'd rather bleed my cash to the dutch than silly old Chavez or the Saudis
2005.09.02 [02:14] Sad_and_Angry: Correct Bab
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2005.09.02 [02:14] ivan`: why don't US cities have bike lanes?
2005.09.02 [02:15] tajah: BlackLotus : I said that SAME thing to my husband tonight
2005.09.02 [02:15] eric: this purely hypothetical, im jsut wondering.  say it;s on my elbow, about an inch wide and not too deep
2005.09.02 [02:16] Babylonian: bennyfactor:  the venezuelan oil money goes to the people of venezuela
2005.09.02 [02:16] postmodern: bennyfactor, Chavez != Saudis
2005.09.02 [02:16] Fergasun: BlackLotus: A gas freeze would result in higher prices
2005.09.02 [02:16] yume_no_hikari: BL: I'd be impolitic to mention his stock portfolio right now, in part because I'm not 100% sure that's why.
2005.09.02 [02:16] Klowner: ivan`: not usually
2005.09.02 [02:16] Fergasun: They wouldn't sell to us
2005.09.02 [02:16] Hazard: john, that doesn't work for people like m ethat live in the country
2005.09.02 [02:16] joeldg: the looters can not take the stuff with them.. they can't get back to get it for a long long time.. what are they thinking
2005.09.02 [02:16] snax: eric: yes, any stagnant, standing water has higher bacteriological content...
2005.09.02 [02:16] tajah: they should also force a freeze on trading crude oil futures.
2005.09.02 [02:16] Darkest_Ancient: price freezes are ineffective and horrible for the economy
2005.09.02 [02:16] bennyfactor: postmodern: Yes I know
2005.09.02 [02:16] starkravingblah: ivan: in so. cali we have bike lanes
2005.09.02 [02:16] ivan`: yeah, i'm in Davis
2005.09.02 [02:16] UJoF: Price freeze wouldn't help with low supply
2005.09.02 [02:16] Dopefish`: <eric> this purely hypothetical, im jsut wondering.  say it;s on my elbow, about an inch wide and not too deep <--huh?
2005.09.02 [02:16] ivan`: every road is bike-laned
2005.09.02 [02:16] UJoF: There's just be lines
2005.09.02 [02:16] Darkest_Ancient: so at least he hasnt made that catastrophic of a mistak eyet
2005.09.02 [02:16] Darkest_Ancient: yet*
2005.09.02 [02:16] Sad_and_Angry: Why hasn't Bushco frozen the price of gas?  Come on, you know why.
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2005.09.02 [02:16] shibbbers: stagnatic water leads to malaria usually
2005.09.02 [02:16] postmodern: bennyfactor, so seperate the two statements
2005.09.02 [02:16] eric: my hypotheitcal cut
2005.09.02 [02:16] BlackLotus: Oh, I don't buy that "low supply" business.
2005.09.02 [02:16] bennyfactor: Okay, okay
2005.09.02 [02:16] tajah: the supply isn't even LOW yet.........people are panicing
2005.09.02 [02:16] BlackLotus: pft.
2005.09.02 [02:16] johnboy: I got a question:  I took a two-three hour car ride today and my honda accord got 35.6 mpg (navi bullshit told me).  What would our dependence on foreign oil be if we could all say that?
2005.09.02 [02:16] UJoF: no, the mosquios lead to malaia
2005.09.02 [02:16] BlackLotus: Exactly, tajah.
2005.09.02 [02:16] adownie: it's a simple case of refining capacity
2005.09.02 [02:16] john_: the price going up is anticipation
2005.09.02 [02:16] Babylonian: America is so against the ropes right now..  if Chavez cut off our oil or the Saudis or anyone cut us off, or if we got another big terror attack, the house of cards will collapse
2005.09.02 [02:16] UJoF: not the water
2005.09.02 [02:16] Dopefish`: eric id ont know if you have this in america.. but put some detol on it
2005.09.02 [02:16] Dopefish`: lol
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2005.09.02 [02:16] Fergasun: Black: If I can sell widgets to you for $5 or to johnboy for $3... who will I sell it to?
2005.09.02 [02:16] solcita: johnboy: my Prius gets 50mpg.
2005.09.02 [02:16] postmodern: shibbbers, most of the water is containinated heavily
2005.09.02 [02:16] adownie: we haven't built a new refinery since the 70s
2005.09.02 [02:16] snax: shibbers: not so- the mosquitos have to be carrying malaria in the first place
2005.09.02 [02:16] Dopefish`: antiseptic cream ftw
2005.09.02 [02:16] Klowner: I got a chain email earlier this week telling me to buy gas because someone saw on fox news that it was gonna go up $0.50
2005.09.02 [02:16] zardinuk: Sad_and_Angry: because price freezes would just mean shortages, price gouging is illegal already
2005.09.02 [02:16] shibbbers: of course
2005.09.02 [02:16] * checkercab considers switching his checker cab to biodiesel
2005.09.02 [02:16] UJoF: True...they are the vector
2005.09.02 [02:16] johnboy: solcita: that is awesome
2005.09.02 [02:16] john_: the entire world is feeling the effects of high crude prices....read the financial times
2005.09.02 [02:16] tajah: I agree Lotus. MOST of the gas companies buy their crude oil to make gas overseas
2005.09.02 [02:16] Babylonian: it's over $6 in Atlanta right now
2005.09.02 [02:16] tajah: overseas has NOT been affected
2005.09.02 [02:16] shibbbers: but stagnatic water allows breeding of mosquitos
2005.09.02 [02:16] john_: not only our house of cards would collapse
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2005.09.02 [02:16] postmodern: shibbbers, since Orleans is home to many chemical plants and the Missippi already has a high consentration of PCBs and other heavy metals
2005.09.02 [02:16] Sad_and_Angry: $$$
2005.09.02 [02:16] ColloquySucks: johnboy: probably about half of what it is now
2005.09.02 [02:16] ivan`: 6 friggin dollars?
2005.09.02 [02:16] eric: this is hypothetical situation im talking about. i just wanat to know how bad the germs are spreading in NO
2005.09.02 [02:16] adownie: and the states wont let new refineries be built (not in my backyard syndrome)
2005.09.02 [02:16] Hazard: freezing gas prices would be catastrophic right now, that's why they haven't done it, there is a HUGE HUGE HUGE shortage and we woudl run out quickly if there was a big rush to get cheap gas, and i HATE bush.. but he's doing the right thing here
2005.09.02 [02:16] UJoF: exactly
2005.09.02 [02:16] tajah: over six dollars for what Babylonian??????????????????
2005.09.02 [02:16] postmodern: shibbbers, so it's more of a toxis soup probably
2005.09.02 [02:16] ColloquySucks: i think the average mpg is about 15-20
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2005.09.02 [02:17] UJoF: about the mosquitos
2005.09.02 [02:17] Babylonian: postmodern:  that area is known as "Cancer Alley"
2005.09.02 [02:17] eric: are the guys who are running this site getting sick?
2005.09.02 [02:17] Darkest_Ancient: actually, those oil countries would be in worse shape than us
2005.09.02 [02:17] Babylonian: tajah:  supreme
2005.09.02 [02:17] Darkest_Ancient: if they cut us off
2005.09.02 [02:17] snax: shibbers: yes, West Nile is the looming issue, not malaria, as far as insect borne diseases
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2005.09.02 [02:17] tajah: lord
2005.09.02 [02:17] UJoF: eric: Best bet is NOT to get a cut
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2005.09.02 [02:17] eric: thanks
2005.09.02 [02:17] bennyfactor: I'd rather bleed my cash to the Dutch than I would the people's government of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, or to the Saudis for that matter
2005.09.02 [02:17] postmodern: Babylonian, indeed my Uncle was telling me about this last year (he lived there and escaped)
2005.09.02 [02:17] Dopefish`: eric i guess they are locked in their server room most of the time
2005.09.02 [02:17] johnboy: I'm no economist (engineer), but I have always heard that price freezes do nothing more than harm a market and economy
2005.09.02 [02:17] UJoF: If you go, clean it with anything clean you can find and cover with tape or something to make a barrier.
2005.09.02 [02:17] postmodern: bennyfactor, thank you
2005.09.02 [02:17] Darkest_Ancient: you heard right
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2005.09.02 [02:17] Dopefish`: i certainly wouldnt want to be bitten by anything
2005.09.02 [02:17] BlackLotus: Good question.  I'm not even sure what a widget is.
2005.09.02 [02:17] john_: we have plenty of oil/coal here......if the world runs dry we are gonna be sitting pretty
2005.09.02 [02:17] Darkest_Ancient: price freezes are horrendously damaging and ineffective
2005.09.02 [02:17] john_: i promise
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2005.09.02 [02:17] Babylonian: postmodern:  and what happened to the nuclear plant?  why no word about that ?
2005.09.02 [02:17] postmodern: bennyfactor, i'd pick Hugo over the Saudi royal family myself
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2005.09.02 [02:17] eric: still, i wonder if they're feeing any physical/biological effects
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2005.09.02 [02:17] snax: eric: I wouldn't think the guys would be getting sick, they've been sitting high and dry with potable water supplies
2005.09.02 [02:17] adownie: now what they *could* do is cap the level at which they collect taxes on fuel
2005.09.02 [02:17] zardinuk: I got the solution for the gas prices, nobody has been talking about this, but refineries only run at partial capacity during the day so that you don't see how much smoke is really coming out, the gov needs to allow refineries to run 100% all day
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2005.09.02 [02:18] adownie: say at $1.70 a gallon
2005.09.02 [02:18] yume_no_hikari: hrm, no one's reg'd welovethefemainformationminister.com
2005.09.02 [02:18] eric: but the germs have got to infect the air as well, no?
2005.09.02 [02:18] Darkest_Ancient: generally, all government interference in the market is damaging
2005.09.02 [02:18] postmodern: bennyfactor, since Hugo dosn't allow meddrasses to run in his country
2005.09.02 [02:18] Dopefish`: snax also, coke, and chips etc lol
2005.09.02 [02:18] tajah: well the government could make them cut prices and take their tax on gasoline away for awhile....................thereby allowing prices on crude oil to ease
2005.09.02 [02:18] johnboy: I'm doing research on H2 storage in solid state materials... the DOE is giving my prof big grant money
2005.09.02 [02:18] postmodern: Babylonian, there was a nuclear plant there!!!?
2005.09.02 [02:18] tajah: there are MANY things that could be done that are NOT being done.
2005.09.02 [02:18] bennyfactor: postmodern: Yeah. I have two good friends whose dad works for Raytheon, so they all spent some years in Ryadh and Jedda
2005.09.02 [02:18] Darkest_Ancient: government will never, ever reduce taxes in a serious manner
2005.09.02 [02:18] zardinuk: tajah: the price would just go up
2005.09.02 [02:18] sent: (Link: http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg)http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
2005.09.02 [02:18] sent: (Link: http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg)http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
2005.09.02 [02:18] sent: (Link: http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg)http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
2005.09.02 [02:18] Babylonian: postmodern:  more than one yes.. and the one right near New Orleans had to get shut down for the storm.. but it (like all of them) had tons of nuclear waste
2005.09.02 [02:18] ivan`: hey i have an idea stop wasting billions of dollars on wars and prison sentences for innocents - then we'll have enough money to build high-speed transportation
2005.09.02 [02:18] starkravingblah: if Chavez is guilty of the things the US says he is, then so is bush
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2005.09.02 [02:18] Sad_and_Angry: Nor should they, Dark.
2005.09.02 [02:18] postmodern: Darkest_Ancient, they need to be increased for the top 1% of the high-class
2005.09.02 [02:18] UJoF: If they take the tax off, the price will still rise to meet equalize supply and demand.
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2005.09.02 [02:19] ivan`: sent, HAHAHAHA
2005.09.02 [02:19] snax: eric: sounds like they are holding up well, but I STRONGLY suggest their company foot the bill for some crisis recovery counseling
2005.09.02 [02:19] ivan`: sent, A+++++
2005.09.02 [02:19] bennyfactor: The nasty parts of Barinas, Venezuela sound like disney world compared to saudi
2005.09.02 [02:19] sent: yeah
2005.09.02 [02:19] UJoF: It just means more money for Chevron
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2005.09.02 [02:19] Darkest_Ancient: postmodern: taxes need to be abolished, altogether
2005.09.02 [02:19] Klowner: eric: pretty sure most diseases can't last long airborn, you could smear hiv infected blood all over a table, let it dry up real good, and then rub it on an open wound and not get infected
2005.09.02 [02:19] sent: it's about time that we had some humor in this
2005.09.02 [02:19] sent: i just ps'd .. wzldell credited for idea. :)
2005.09.02 [02:19] postmodern: Darkest_Ancient, so where are we going to get funding for public projects?
2005.09.02 [02:19] wzldell: =)
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2005.09.02 [02:19] adownie: Illinois's Governor refuses to repeal 7% of the taxes because it would have an effect on social programs....  even though their budget planned on $1.80/gallon revenues
2005.09.02 [02:19] johnboy: since we are rambling: what is everyone's take on the immigration "problem" we have?  I personally don't think a country we immigrated to should be closed up, but what is everyone's take?
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2005.09.02 [02:19] wzldell: here for your amusement
2005.09.02 [02:19] postmodern: Darkest_Ancient, taxes are unconstitutional but very helpful for public works
2005.09.02 [02:19] UJoF: Klowner- depends on the disease
2005.09.02 [02:19] Darkest_Ancient: there would be no public funding... which is exactly the point
2005.09.02 [02:19] Klowner: adownie: Illinois's governor is a wank
2005.09.02 [02:19] BlackLotus: I say - no more.
2005.09.02 [02:19] wankle: postmodern: that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of
2005.09.02 [02:19] eric: im about to immigrat to another country
2005.09.02 [02:19] joeldg: what is insane is that we had relief to tsunamia victims faster than we are for our own people.. four days.. I smell a lot of panels and investigations coming up..
2005.09.02 [02:19] eric: i love immigration
2005.09.02 [02:19] Darkest_Ancient: you want it, you voluntarily decide to pay for it, if not, deal with it
2005.09.02 [02:19] adownie: yeah he is
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2005.09.02 [02:19] postmodern: Darkest_Ancient, if the tax money wasn't diverted to the war effort, we'd have improved leves right now
2005.09.02 [02:19] bennyfactor: Klowner: not as much of a wank as Daley
2005.09.02 [02:20] wankle: you mean to tell me there were NO taxes when the constitution was ratified?
2005.09.02 [02:20] Klowner: UJoF: right, hepetitus is another metter, iirc
2005.09.02 [02:20] postmodern: wankle, dumb but true
2005.09.02 [02:20] eleusis: hello
2005.09.02 [02:20] UJoF: Anthrax and tetanus, for example, lived for years in the soil.
2005.09.02 [02:20] zardinuk: haha, legalize marijuana, that's you hippies answer for everything
2005.09.02 [02:20] Cellulaer: (Link: http://tinyurl.com/7a38u)http://tinyurl.com/7a38u <<< near the bottom bush says he did not expect to tap foreign aid ("US would take care of itself") but offers were welcome and would be persued
2005.09.02 [02:20] vxla: hey now, we know il's guv is a wank :)
2005.09.02 [02:20] adownie: bennyfactor: yes, but he is Daley's wank :-)
2005.09.02 [02:20] Sad_and_Angry: Ado: I seem to recall a phrase..."Give me your poor, your tred, your hungry."
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2005.09.02 [02:20] buddylazier: if it wasn't diverted to the Iraq war, it would've been diverted to other wasteful spending projects
2005.09.02 [02:20] wankle: dark: so all the poor people in NOLA right now would die... and that's OK?
2005.09.02 [02:20] solcita: Knock it off with the politics, guys.
2005.09.02 [02:20] Darkest_Ancient: legalize all drugs actually, not just marijuana.... it would also drastically lower crime
2005.09.02 [02:20] tajah: I'm knowing many of you are right in what you say but it just makes me angry........because I totally believe that gas prices are rising in a panic over this when the actual effects aren't so so so great from the damage in that area.........the loss in that area will not account for what they are predicting .....
2005.09.02 [02:21] solcita: Read the topic.
2005.09.02 [02:21] BlackLotus: Hey, Bill Maher's on to something with that.
2005.09.02 [02:21] bennyfactor: adownie: I'm still pissed about meigs field
2005.09.02 [02:21] AgentMulder: they're bringing evacuated patients being moved from Charity hospital back to the hospital as there is no room at the higher ground evac point, per CNN on phone with a doctor there
2005.09.02 [02:21] Darkest_Ancient: government cant control drugs, though
2005.09.02 [02:21] tajah: which is people to RUN out
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2005.09.02 [02:21] postmodern: zardinuk, actually opening the marajuana market would be a big chash flow
2005.09.02 [02:21] snax: part of why the Oklahoma City bombing and Sept 11 recovery teams received important emotional counseling was due to the havoc wreaked on the crisis mgt team for the Luby's in Killeen shooting. Judy still has issues from that, but she helped developed the crisis mgt training used today. (judy = HSC)
2005.09.02 [02:21] postmodern: zardinuk, that's big money sitting there
2005.09.02 [02:21] adownie: yeah, me too...  great place to land
2005.09.02 [02:21] zardinuk: Darkest_Ancient: and the world would become 25% stupider
2005.09.02 [02:21] wzldell: (Link: http://studiocritic.com/nola/)http://studiocritic.com/nola/
2005.09.02 [02:21] postmodern: zardinuk, in weigth marajuana out prices gold currently
2005.09.02 [02:21] UJoF: So, they are evacuating Charity again?
2005.09.02 [02:21] BlackLotus: Sorry, solcita.  Hard not to discuss politics when it's seemingly going hand in hand with Katrina and the efforts being made.
2005.09.02 [02:21] bennyfactor: So pretty too, planes landing on the lake
2005.09.02 [02:21] UJoF: Please God.
2005.09.02 [02:21] * solcita nods.
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2005.09.02 [02:21] postmodern: zardinuk, s/weigth/weight/g
2005.09.02 [02:21] johnboy: haha
2005.09.02 [02:21] eric: was greta van sustren reporting live from the stadium tonight?
2005.09.02 [02:21] BlackLotus: I'll try to keep a lid on it.
2005.09.02 [02:21] solcita: Understandable. Just don't escalate it to flame wars, please.
2005.09.02 [02:21] Sad_and_Angry: I don't think we're living in that country anymore, Ado..hence my handle
2005.09.02 [02:21] * BlackLotus wasn't.
2005.09.02 [02:21] Klowner: eric: was the reporter incredibly attractive?
2005.09.02 [02:21] johnboy: greta is hot
2005.09.02 [02:21] BlackLotus: Tensions are high enough. ;)
2005.09.02 [02:21] vxla: bennyfactor: not any more
2005.09.02 [02:21] adownie: BTW, more than one shot fired at the hospital
2005.09.02 [02:21] solcita: True dat. =)
2005.09.02 [02:21] zardinuk: eric: glad she isn't in frickin aruba anymore
2005.09.02 [02:21] adownie: according to a doctor there
2005.09.02 [02:22] wankle: yeah, I'd do greta
2005.09.02 [02:22] johnboy: haha
2005.09.02 [02:22] eric: yeah but was she reporting live from the dome?
2005.09.02 [02:22] OldSchool: lol
2005.09.02 [02:22] johnboy: I was joking
2005.09.02 [02:22] bennyfactor: vxla: Yeah.
2005.09.02 [02:22] TexasEMT: Solcita: Any luck?
2005.09.02 [02:22] UJoF: The Charity evac was being held up by either one or two snipers I heard.
2005.09.02 [02:22] zardinuk: she'll be live from the dome for the next 2 months
2005.09.02 [02:22] Klowner: johnboy: oh we know, we know
2005.09.02 [02:22] johnboy: haha
2005.09.02 [02:22] vxla: bennyfactor: are you in Chi?
2005.09.02 [02:22] Wohali: isb: Hello, I'm here
2005.09.02 [02:22] adownie: 1 sniper "situation resolved"
2005.09.02 [02:22] solcita: TexasEMT: still sorting through emails. I know I saw something about it yesterday, though.
2005.09.02 [02:22] Wohali: shoot, I missed him.
2005.09.02 [02:22] adownie: after a firefight
2005.09.02 [02:22] tajah: I keep thinking also that some of these hotel chains around the country that have vacancies all over the flipping place could open up their doors and give folks a cheap if not free place to live for awhile til they figure it out.........how to get them there is questionable but really the US is so huge.......there has to be space for those folks. do people just not want them out of fear they are not on the up and up?
2005.09.02 [02:22] johnboy: they need to send in special forces to fuck those looters/snipers/dumbasses up
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2005.09.02 [02:22] bennyfactor: vxla: No; Indianapolis. But Chicago is obviously the place to go if one lives in the Nap-town
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2005.09.02 [02:23] eric: all i know is i can't wait for the "cash money millionaires" tribute ablum. its gonna be banging!!  and with that, good night
2005.09.02 [02:23] johnboy: haha
2005.09.02 [02:23] Darkest_Ancient: FEMA director on CNN totally dodging the "why haven't people gotten any food or water yet" question
2005.09.02 [02:23] Darkest_Ancient: no surprise
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2005.09.02 [02:23] Babylonian: Darkest_Ancient:  yup
2005.09.02 [02:23] johnboy: I never considered the loss of cash money studios
2005.09.02 [02:23] wankle: eric: haha
2005.09.02 [02:23] johnboy: shit!!!!
2005.09.02 [02:23] Darkest_Ancient: "we just learned that people were at the convention center!!"
2005.09.02 [02:23] Babylonian: Darkest_Ancient:  the FEMA people are the worst liars ever
2005.09.02 [02:23] adownie: a buddy of mine in TN was telling me the hotels are kicking out evacuees for their "paying customers"
2005.09.02 [02:23] Darkest_Ancient: hello, incompetence!
2005.09.02 [02:23] yfruytyt: what about No Limit
2005.09.02 [02:23] Darkest_Ancient: heard of the news?
2005.09.02 [02:23] Fergasun: wzldell: I sww thaat attributed as NOPD..
2005.09.02 [02:23] Remillard: adownie: yes I've heard that too
2005.09.02 [02:23] Babylonian: Paula Zahn bitch-slaps him
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2005.09.02 [02:23] postmodern: Babylonian, im not to worried about them being damaged but security in those places are so pathetic
2005.09.02 [02:23] tajah: ok i have to call it a night folks
2005.09.02 [02:23] Fergasun: wzldell: But that looks like an armed gang mbmer...
2005.09.02 [02:23] kaosrain: I don't have TV, does CNN have a stream online?
2005.09.02 [02:23] AgentMulder: nice go Paula
2005.09.02 [02:23] adownie: yean, CNN is getting really pissed at the politicos
2005.09.02 [02:23] BlackLotus: Night, tajah.  See you tomorrow, beautiful.
2005.09.02 [02:23] johnboy: Paula is hot
2005.09.02 [02:23] * tajah will pray for the victims and their families etc
2005.09.02 [02:24] johnboy: I'd do her
2005.09.02 [02:24] AgentMulder: Koppel took him down earlier
2005.09.02 [02:24] NESinOC: I keep seeing on rant-ish posts about how the people that are looting and shooting are 'animals' and we should 'leave them to die' but what I am seeing is that these communities are no longer interdependant, we do not talk to each other anymore.. if you do not know your neighbors, how on earth is anyone ever going to feel connected?
2005.09.02 [02:24] ivan`: Google is building the Aquinas protocol through dark fiber - and FEMA is becoming terrorist
2005.09.02 [02:24] tajah: goodnight Lotus. xox
2005.09.02 [02:24] Darkest_Ancient: maybe she can be useful and just call him a worthless motherfucker on live tv
2005.09.02 [02:24] AgentMulder: old school style
2005.09.02 [02:24] adownie: you see Andersen Cooper smack down the LA senator?
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2005.09.02 [02:24] eric: by the way, digby's blog has a terrifing post about rioting/looting in the suburbs
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2005.09.02 [02:24] AgentMulder: no what did anderson say
2005.09.02 [02:24] joeldg: that cnn guy is like WTF .. he rocks
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2005.09.02 [02:24] AgentMulder: eric: url?
2005.09.02 [02:24] Fergasun: Can someone explain to me the FedEx truck picture?  It doesn't looked like NOPD.... I might be missing something....
2005.09.02 [02:24] BlackLotus: That 360 show?
2005.09.02 [02:24] bennyfactor: Anybody know anything about the D-Day museum? I just thought of that
2005.09.02 [02:24] postmodern: no offense, but the suburbs deserve it
2005.09.02 [02:24] buddylazier: Landrieu picked the wrong time to try for a disaster boost
2005.09.02 [02:24] snax: Darkest_Ancient: keep in mind that when FEMA arrived, they were having difficulty locating the command. No phone lines, and no internet
2005.09.02 [02:24] sent: Fergasun: it is NOPD.
2005.09.02 [02:24] ivan`: Fergasun, (Link: http://sigmund.biz/kat20050901%20part%202/Picture062.jpg)http://sigmund.biz/kat20050901%20part%202/Picture062.jpg
2005.09.02 [02:24] johnboy: adownie: what did cooperson do?
2005.09.02 [02:24] ivan`: orig
2005.09.02 [02:24] sent: Fergasun: Look at the hat.
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2005.09.02 [02:24] yfruytyt: Fergasun, i think it is US Marshals
2005.09.02 [02:24] PxM: (Link: http://sigmund.biz/kat20050901%20part%202/)http://sigmund.biz/kat20050901%20part%202/ <-- Info on the pic. 4th row
2005.09.02 [02:24] auhola: so FEMA is on CNN and denying everything.....
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2005.09.02 [02:24] snax: so quite possible FEMA was not as aware of Convention center refugees
2005.09.02 [02:25] ivan`: how did they get a Fedex van?
2005.09.02 [02:25] AgentMulder: f you fema
2005.09.02 [02:25] postmodern: when we look back in history, the suburbs will be seen as the most obsense allocation of wealth and material of society
2005.09.02 [02:25] Babylonian: Hurricane Katrina brings out blatant racism from the loonie White Right.
2005.09.02 [02:25] BlackLotus: is that the name of it?  He crawled all over some woman earlier for doing some back slapping, said the people of NO didn't want to hear that, they were frustrated, angry, etc.  she started stumbling over her words.
2005.09.02 [02:25] adownie: she went off on a back slapping spiel for othe rpoliticians and he said something along the lines of "we don't want to hear you back slapping when we just saw a body in the street being eatne by rats"
2005.09.02 [02:25] Cellulaer: isn't FEMA suppost to bring their own command
2005.09.02 [02:25] Fergasun: sent: The guy in the back has an AK though...
2005.09.02 [02:25] BlackLotus: YES!
2005.09.02 [02:25] BlackLotus: I saw that..
2005.09.02 [02:25] Fergasun: snet: is that standard issue?
2005.09.02 [02:25] sent: Fergasun: Sure.
2005.09.02 [02:25] sent: Fergasun: Naw.
2005.09.02 [02:25] adownie: sorry for bad typing
2005.09.02 [02:25] BlackLotus: i was like .. You GO, MAN!
2005.09.02 [02:25] PxM: ivan, they have the right to use private property in the case of emergencies.
2005.09.02 [02:25] AgentMulder: eric: where is "digby's blog"
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2005.09.02 [02:25] AgentMulder: url?
2005.09.02 [02:25] NESinOC: no wonder it's 'every man for himself' because that is how life, in this modern world says we should be.. do not love your neighbor anymore.. distrust him.. compete with him.. but do not love him.. especially now that is he is trying to take everything you've managed to scrape together..
2005.09.02 [02:25] Enamon: What's FEMA saying?
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2005.09.02 [02:25] Babylonian: snax:  well if they don't know then that's really incredible.. it's been on TV all day
2005.09.02 [02:25] Fergasun: sent: Could be confusing... if that guy tried to stop me then I wouldn't listen to him
2005.09.02 [02:25] red6|beijing: Anderson laid down the smack on that senator he called her on her polictical backpatting
2005.09.02 [02:25] sent: Oh, yes, you would.
2005.09.02 [02:25] adownie: if his producer let him go I was sure he was gonna say, "Shut the *^&%* up *%*($(#*!"
2005.09.02 [02:26] bennyfactor: postmodern: I personally hope that suburbs will be seen as the tackiest and most difficult to navigate things in history, at least
2005.09.02 [02:26] sent: Fergasun: If you had an AK-47 aimed in your face, you would.
2005.09.02 [02:26] zardinuk: postmodern: you would have something to criticize no matter what
2005.09.02 [02:26] BlackLotus: Yea he did.  I like Anderson. :)
2005.09.02 [02:26] postmodern: bennyfactor, coldist sakes suck
2005.09.02 [02:26] auhola: did they lose control of a police station or EoC or something earlier in the night?
2005.09.02 [02:26] Fergasun: sent: What about the Brazlian shot on London... he's got no ID on him
2005.09.02 [02:26] johnboy: I wonder if Micheal Moore is gonna do a special on if there were no guns in america then you wouldn't have had the sniper bullshit
2005.09.02 [02:26] red6|beijing: i was neutral on Anderson before but his stock went way up after that
2005.09.02 [02:26] MagiusMoo: I always get lost biking around the new suburb developments as they all look the same. No character to them at all.
2005.09.02 [02:26] postmodern: zardinuk, maybe because our society has so many weak points
2005.09.02 [02:26] snax: Babylonian: FEMA was pulling out by midday
2005.09.02 [02:26] adownie: I am also noticing the CNN reporters are riding the ragged edge of a breakdown
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2005.09.02 [02:26] postmodern: zardinuk, it's an easy job being a critic these days
2005.09.02 [02:26] FCYTravis: auhola: They had been reduced to point defense of the police stations earlier.
2005.09.02 [02:26] zardinuk: postmodern: if you were all living underground, you'd be crying for the poor volcanic channels of lava
2005.09.02 [02:27] furiousxgeorge: hey a moore flamewar, that will be productive, good idea john
2005.09.02 [02:27] zardinuk: s/you/we/
2005.09.02 [02:27] * BlackLotus ' lives in a very old suburb. <wince>
2005.09.02 [02:27] wankle: downie: a lot of news people are
2005.09.02 [02:27] Fergasun: sent: Thanks for the clarification on the picture, but it was confusing when I just looked at it.
2005.09.02 [02:27] wankle: one of them is going to crack
2005.09.02 [02:27] * snax points to topic
2005.09.02 [02:27] postmodern: zardinuk, well im not, so your point is invalid and i doubt your psychic
2005.09.02 [02:27] bennyfactor: postmodern: cul-de-sacs aren't nearly as awful as people putting irregular streets in the middle of a rectangular, flat cornfield in a county whose roads are numbered on a cartesian grid
2005.09.02 [02:27] johnboy: I was not provoking a flamewar... just curious about his opinions
2005.09.02 [02:27] MagiusMoo: BlackLotus: Me too. Doh. ;-)
2005.09.02 [02:27] BlackLotus: hehe
2005.09.02 [02:27] snax: no flamewars, or you'll be kicked
2005.09.02 [02:27] Babylonian: snax:  the city of New Orleans told people to either go to the stadium or the convention center.. how could they not know that
2005.09.02 [02:27] Comic-San: that senator looked like she was starting to cry
2005.09.02 [02:27] Comic-San: at the end there
2005.09.02 [02:27] * adownie pictures Andersen Cooper going postal with a rambo headband on
2005.09.02 [02:27] zardinuk: lol
2005.09.02 [02:27] postmodern: bennyfactor, werd
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2005.09.02 [02:27] Jerub: Babylonian: have you heard about the convention center?
2005.09.02 [02:27] BeanFriedPork: I have this odd feeling that the director of FEMA will not have the same job six months ago.
2005.09.02 [02:27] furiousxgeorge: his opinion is that guns aren't the problem
2005.09.02 [02:27] Babylonian: Jerub:  a bit about it yes
2005.09.02 [02:28] snax: Babylonian: you sure? I heard it was a matter of confusion....
2005.09.02 [02:28] BlackLotus: Well she ought be ashamed..  I'm sure I wasn't the only viewer asking herself, "What the heck is this woman ON about?"
2005.09.02 [02:28] wankle: bean: you mean 6 mos from now? Yeah, I think you're right
2005.09.02 [02:28] adownie: in his opinion, the earth is flat
2005.09.02 [02:28] Babylonian: snax:  that's what I've heard on CNN today
2005.09.02 [02:28] buddylazier: he will be promoted
2005.09.02 [02:28] BeanFriedPork: uh, yes. from now
2005.09.02 [02:28] zardinuk: we should all live in the clouds
2005.09.02 [02:28] Babylonian: snax:  FEMA is lying their ass off
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2005.09.02 [02:28] postmodern: furiousxgeorge, indeed people are to blame, but keep in mind guns have on use, that is to injure or kill
2005.09.02 [02:28] BeanFriedPork: Damn my brain
2005.09.02 [02:28] buddylazier: like Meyers, Gonzalez, Rove, et al
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2005.09.02 [02:28] snax: Wohali: get my PM?
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2005.09.02 [02:28] Klowner: postmodern: and turn off the tv, don't forget that use
2005.09.02 [02:28] adownie: crap, it's late....
2005.09.02 [02:28] starkravingblah: yeah, people in this administration get promoted on their lying skills
2005.09.02 [02:28] * BlackLotus ' idly watches a pink elephant float buy. FEMA leader promoted? heh.
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2005.09.02 [02:28] BlackLotus: By too. :P
2005.09.02 [02:28] postmodern: Klowner, haha
2005.09.02 [02:28] * zardinuk puts on his asbestos suit
2005.09.02 [02:29] checkercab: ack, really late
2005.09.02 [02:29] checkercab: though earlier than yesterday's bedtime
2005.09.02 [02:29] snarky|away: gah, so many chans.
2005.09.02 [02:29] postmodern: zardinuk, ichy is it?
2005.09.02 [02:29] * adownie is supposed to pretend to work tomorrow...  night all
2005.09.02 [02:29] Babylonian: New Orleans' top emergency management official called the Bush/FEMA effort a "national disgrace" and questioned when reinforcements would actually reach the increasingly lawless city
2005.09.02 [02:29] * checkercab is pretending to work right now
2005.09.02 [02:29] Comic-San: people are to blame, but at least with swords you had a chance :P  with guns if they miss you they just have to fire again
2005.09.02 [02:29] * zardinuk takes off his asbestos suit and goes to sleep
2005.09.02 [02:29] zardinuk: nevermind
2005.09.02 [02:29] Comic-San: you can dodge swords, but not guns
2005.09.02 [02:29] johnboy: i would say the response has been less than sufficient
2005.09.02 [02:29] Comic-San: etc etc
2005.09.02 [02:29] BeanFriedPork: Anyway, I think the city of New Orleans gave the people a list of like ten or twelve shelters to go to, including the Superdome and the Convention Center, but it still is no excuse. FEMA and the City of New Orleans should've coordinated and figured out to go to all of those places.
2005.09.02 [02:29] * checkercab just donated $100 to help
2005.09.02 [02:29] solcita: TexasEMT: I can't find it, but I'm asking people on my mailing list. I'll get you so m ething soon.
2005.09.02 [02:29] bennyfactor: Is the LA governor taking a stand yet?
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2005.09.02 [02:29] jt_34: For anyone interested, I've been blogging any URLs that have come across in the various channels for the last few hours. Some really interesteding stories: (Link: http://willrawls.blogspot.com)http://willrawls.blogspot.com
2005.09.02 [02:29] postmodern: im beginning to doubt our current administrations ability to manage this emense dissaster
2005.09.02 [02:29] johnboy: but then again... if you air lifted supplies to the area those with guns would rule
2005.09.02 [02:29] Fergasun: FEMA is not supposed to take control...
2005.09.02 [02:30] bennyfactor: All I've seen her do is talk about how terrible everything is so far
2005.09.02 [02:30] postmodern: along with a foreign occupation
2005.09.02 [02:30] asd127: postmodern: I am doubting their ability to manage PERIOD
2005.09.02 [02:30] Babylonian: johnboy:  what are you talking about
2005.09.02 [02:30] Fergasun: It's up to local/state government to take control of the situation, FEMA provides resources to them...
2005.09.02 [02:30] Frungy: I'll get right on making a podcast to release to the blogosphere!!!¿
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2005.09.02 [02:30] MagiusMoo: Raining on the web cam?
2005.09.02 [02:30] Wohali: snax: I did not; can you resend please?
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2005.09.02 [02:30] BeanFriedPork: It seems like the only reason they found out about the Convention Center at all is because it was reported on CNN.com.
2005.09.02 [02:30] postmodern: unless i see some major effort immediately, i stand on that oppinion
2005.09.02 [02:30] napalm: arfcom pwnz j00
2005.09.02 [02:30] wankle: if I was the LA governor, I would be in bed with a big bottle of Jack Daniels
2005.09.02 [02:30] zardinuk: postmodern: thats the problem with politics, everyone just has to look like they're doing something, regardless of whether they're actually doing something
2005.09.02 [02:30] mrdark: la governor needs to be removed from office.  it's her job to line up troops for her state
2005.09.02 [02:30] wankle: crying myself into oblivion
2005.09.02 [02:30] BeanFriedPork: The LA Government had been doing all they can, but there's only so much they can do in a situation like this.
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2005.09.02 [02:30] zardinuk: wankle: lol
2005.09.02 [02:30] napalm: mrdark: agreed. she's lost it
2005.09.02 [02:31] zardinuk: I heard they got 10.5 Bil coming to the rescue
2005.09.02 [02:31] Babylonian: Government Seizes Buses that Trapped Tourists Rented to Get Them Out of New Orleans.     (Link: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/01/national/a113705D26.DTL)http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/01/national/a113705D26.DTL
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2005.09.02 [02:31] asd127: wheres the guard, wheres the troops??? Its Friday now
2005.09.02 [02:31] SplitInfinty: hi all
2005.09.02 [02:31] postmodern: zardinuk, well i personally feel that it's that most politicans today have their priorities in disorder
2005.09.02 [02:31] johnboy: Babylonian: I had made the comment that Fema/Feds response is rather slow.. then I went on to make the comment that if they would airlift supplies and what not in then the gangs with guns walking the street would just loot them most likely
2005.09.02 [02:31] Klowner: wtf? "Greyhound dropped em off and they're startin to wander"
2005.09.02 [02:31] Darkest_Ancient: money will do nothing when there is no organization at all
2005.09.02 [02:31] Babylonian: zardinuk:  well, a promise of 10.5 billion..
2005.09.02 [02:31] zardinuk: asd127: they're in new orleans
2005.09.02 [02:31] asd127: Some of those people paid 25,000 to get out and they were seized
2005.09.02 [02:31] postmodern: zardinuk, there is too much lobbying for companies and not enough focus on the people they govern
2005.09.02 [02:31] snax: okay, can't feed a flamewar, but this is all I know/can say:
2005.09.02 [02:31] zardinuk: postmodern: that's true, all politicians are frickin talking heads
2005.09.02 [02:31] snax:   I was asked by someone last night "with your knowledge of HS, why is FEMA not reacting as quickly? Is it b/c of the merge? I asked the same question today of someone directly involved, and was told...
2005.09.02 [02:31] Sad_and_Angry: See you guys, this is what troubles me...everyone seems so hellbent on vengeful violence against the sad excuses for human beings that are taking advantage of this catastrphe and preying upon the very people who are trying to help.  And I agree 100%, they are the dregs, and deserve the ultimate punishment.  But, I see very few people expressing their desire to help the real victims, just so much hat...so much hate.
2005.09.02 [02:31] Darkest_Ancient: Secondly, we can't honestly afford to give them 10 billion... the fed will print it out of nothing.... more deficit, yay
2005.09.02 [02:31] Cellulaer: johnboy: they couldn't loot all the supplies and the mob would take them out if they tried
2005.09.02 [02:32] postmodern: zardinuk, not all, but all politicans today
2005.09.02 [02:32] Babylonian: johnboy:  not if they airlifted in enough for everyone
2005.09.02 [02:32] mrdark: every politician in that state on up needs to answer for this crap.  dem/repub/whatever
2005.09.02 [02:32] auhola: a girl in my chemistry class was reading our campus newspaper.  In it a story mentioned "LA flying concrete and sand to repair leeves," she said "isn't Los Angeles a long way to bring concrete?"
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2005.09.02 [02:32] snax: oops, sorry to leave hanging.
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2005.09.02 [02:32] checkercab: the only help i can offer right now is the money i just sent and the prayers i keep offering
2005.09.02 [02:32] snax: administration
2005.09.02 [02:32] zardinuk: postmodern: name one politician who doesn't have corrupt influence
2005.09.02 [02:32] SplitInfinty: Anyone from DirectNic in here?
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2005.09.02 [02:32] jt_34: They went to bed
2005.09.02 [02:32] Frungy: Donny is
2005.09.02 [02:32] zardinuk: postmodern: oh, dead politicians, maybe
2005.09.02 [02:32] postmodern: zardinuk, if the entire mindset changed about politics things would go from the popularity contest and getting donations, to standing for something you beleive in and protecting the people
2005.09.02 [02:32] SplitInfinty: ok thanks
2005.09.02 [02:32] furiousxgeorge: haha auhola
2005.09.02 [02:32] johnboy: Babylonian: I'm sure people will horde whatever is given... after being deprived for so long
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2005.09.02 [02:32] Darkest_Ancient: If it is even possible, Iraq is looking like an even bigger blunder than it already was
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2005.09.02 [02:33] skullaria: I didn't think Howard Dean was corrupt.  His base was people giving 5 or 10 bucks each
2005.09.02 [02:33] johnboy: Babylonian: so 10 MREs won't feed 10 peeps
2005.09.02 [02:33] asd127: Darkest_Ancient: Do you have any idea how much Iraq and Afghanistan has costed us? If they are going to spend trillions on fixing a toilet in the Pentagon, they could supply full monetary relief to Louisiana
2005.09.02 [02:33] buddylazier: our political system has simply failed to protect its citizens
2005.09.02 [02:33] postmodern: zardinuk, current democratic canidate for some office in Montana is pretty cool
2005.09.02 [02:33] * snax scratches head to figure out her irc password to register her nick for PMs
2005.09.02 [02:33] buddylazier: pretty cut and dry
2005.09.02 [02:33] zardinuk: postmodern: if I were president the reporters would be all over me for alleged assasinations and imperialist intentions
2005.09.02 [02:33] Klowner: I was listening to some silly radio program the other night and some guy said the Russians created the storms and drove them to the US
2005.09.02 [02:33] postmodern: zardinuk, organic farmer, lives close to his roots, drives a beatup truck
2005.09.02 [02:33] Fergasun: Our political system is based on "I root for my team, you root for your team" and not real leadership....
2005.09.02 [02:33] Babylonian: johnboy:  you need to drop enough for everyone or else there will be fighting
2005.09.02 [02:33] Darkest_Ancient: Oh, they've costed a few hundred billion dollars
2005.09.02 [02:33] Number44: man, people complaining about cold MRE's don't know SHIT about how to use the heater mechanisms... I LOVE MRE's
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2005.09.02 [02:33] postmodern: zardinuk, he had perl jam in town to raise money for him
2005.09.02 [02:33] BeanFriedPork: Klowner: was that Coast To Coast AM with Art Bell or something?
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2005.09.02 [02:34] ligar: num44 hell yeah!
2005.09.02 [02:34] Klowner: BeanFriedPork: mmmm I think it was
2005.09.02 [02:34] postmodern: zardinuk, because lead of perl jam is a long time friend of his...
2005.09.02 [02:34] Darkest_Ancient: cost...
2005.09.02 [02:34] Fergasun: BeanFried: Definately sounsd like it...
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2005.09.02 [02:34] Cellulaer: if they can scramble F15s over DC in 2 minutes they should be able to drop a few tons on MREs to starving people in the middle of a top 100 US city within 3 days
2005.09.02 [02:34] johnboy: Klowner: I thought it was Al-zarkawi (spelling)
2005.09.02 [02:34] BeanFriedPork: Why didn't John Tit0r warn us!
2005.09.02 [02:34] vxla: snax: read the website of msg chanserv for help
2005.09.02 [02:34] tamas: Number44 - can you describe to me an MRE and how you 'use' it?
2005.09.02 [02:34] furiousxgeorge: what is in the MRE's 44?
2005.09.02 [02:34] Number44: tamas: sure can
2005.09.02 [02:34] postmodern: zardinuk, well the media is all about generating news
2005.09.02 [02:34] postmodern: zardinuk, not reporting it
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2005.09.02 [02:34] groundup: NO is 31 according to 2004 census
2005.09.02 [02:34] zardinuk: postmodern: you're talking about howard dean?
2005.09.02 [02:34] bennyfactor: The worst thing about this fact that the government has failed in its basic protection of the citizenry of south LA is that it's failed for about 50 years
2005.09.02 [02:34] Klowner: johnboy: Al-Zarqawi I think, but no :)
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2005.09.02 [02:34] tanto: furious: there's MANY different mre flavors
2005.09.02 [02:34] postmodern: zardinuk, so that people watch their ads, and they get paid, that's an improper design for an organization if you ask me
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2005.09.02 [02:34] tanto: ham, potatoes, dessert
2005.09.02 [02:34] postmodern: zardinuk, no not dean
2005.09.02 [02:34] Babylonian: postmodern:  the media killed the levee funding and made the levee collapse?
2005.09.02 [02:34] johnboy: MREs are kind of good
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2005.09.02 [02:34] tanto: it's good stuff
2005.09.02 [02:34] ScaryFast: wow, anderson cooper had to walk off camera while he was trying to talk about stuff
2005.09.02 [02:34] johnboy: corn beef hash is my fav
2005.09.02 [02:35] BeanFriedPork: Dude, MREs aren't that bad, from what I hear.
2005.09.02 [02:35] postmodern: zardinuk, this guy is completely new, google him
2005.09.02 [02:35] Wohali: An MRE is a plastic packaged meal.  You cook it by placing it against a rock, etc. for 10 minutes.  It heats itself up, and lasts for years
2005.09.02 [02:35] mrdark: furiousxgeorge: can be different, it's like a lunchable :)
2005.09.02 [02:35] tanto: you can get any kind of mre you want
2005.09.02 [02:35] Number44: tamas it's a big mylar bag, that can withstand a 300lb man falling on it (Designed that way) with an entree, a dessert, multiple drinks, some condiments, spoon, and a heater thing that yout put the entree into and pour water in.  in 10 seconds it's too hot to touch
2005.09.02 [02:35] Wohali: It was designed for military use
2005.09.02 [02:35] tanto: tastes better than mcdonalds
2005.09.02 [02:35] zardinuk: postmodern: who?
2005.09.02 [02:35] Klowner: MRE's are far better than canned tuna
2005.09.02 [02:35] Frungy: Does anyone have a clip of the Paula Zahn interview with the FEMA director yet??
2005.09.02 [02:35] postmodern: Babylonian, no
2005.09.02 [02:35] zardinuk: you got spammed
2005.09.02 [02:35] Fergasun: Bottom line is, no one gave a shit about the levee until it broke...
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2005.09.02 [02:35] Fergasun: that's how our government works
2005.09.02 [02:35] groundup: Any one know how a NJARNG soldier can get deployed down there? I really want to help out but I don't want to add to the confusion and would prefer to be used as a soldier.
2005.09.02 [02:35] tanto: you make a full meal in 2 minutes
2005.09.02 [02:35] bennyfactor: From what I've read, they've only maintaining the levees and not improving
2005.09.02 [02:35] Fergasun: No one gives a shit until something bad happens...
2005.09.02 [02:35] Babylonian: ScaryFast:  did you see the video of him going off on the Senator from LA ?
2005.09.02 [02:35] postmodern: zardinuk, i don't know his exact name, so google
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2005.09.02 [02:35] postmodern: Babylonian, i didn't say that
2005.09.02 [02:35] ScaryFast: babylonian, no
2005.09.02 [02:35] mrdark: MRE's are good food ..had one with a peice of pound cake in it once
2005.09.02 [02:35] Fergasun: then it's not your fault...
2005.09.02 [02:35] furiousxgeorge: sounds tasty
2005.09.02 [02:35] Number44: MRE's are about 1200 calories and fit in a standard fatigue cargo pocket
2005.09.02 [02:35] bennyfactor: which, in comparison with the gates on the Thames and in Denmark, is really sad
2005.09.02 [02:35] postmodern: Babylonian, i think it was some congressional or senate vote that killed the funding
2005.09.02 [02:35] johnboy: MREs also have these heaters that work via a chemical reaction... they heat the food well
2005.09.02 [02:35] SplitInfinty: Did Directnic get thier diesel fuel?
2005.09.02 [02:35] zardinuk: postmodern: besides, I would stamp any politician who gets a band to play for his election is corrupt
2005.09.02 [02:35] bennyfactor: s/denmark/netherlands/
2005.09.02 [02:35] groundup: Number44: more like 3000
2005.09.02 [02:35] Remillard: groundup: talk to your superior officer?
2005.09.02 [02:35] postmodern: Babylonian, well cut the army-core's budget
2005.09.02 [02:35] Frungy: Does anyone have a clip of the Paula Zahn interview with the FEMA director yet??
2005.09.02 [02:35] Babylonian: postmodern:  no it was Bush's budget.. he took the levee money and put it in Iraq
2005.09.02 [02:35] SplitInfinty: I have a truck going in there.... let them know if they come back
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2005.09.02 [02:36] groundup: Remillard: they are admin pogues who don't know anything
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2005.09.02 [02:36] postmodern: zardinuk, even if said band was their close friend?
2005.09.02 [02:36] Babylonian: Anderson Cooper just gave it to Landrieu    (Link: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Anderson-Cooper-Landrieu-Katrina1.wmv)http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Anderson-Cooper-Landrieu-Katrina1.wmv
2005.09.02 [02:36] Fergasun: Babylon: No one was screaming about it until the levee broke!
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2005.09.02 [02:36] postmodern: Babylonian, yeah thats it
2005.09.02 [02:36] zjohnson: (Link: http://www.ki4u.com/mre.htm)http://www.ki4u.com/mre.htm
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2005.09.02 [02:36] buddylazier: split, the LJ update makes it sound like they did
2005.09.02 [02:36] mrdark: Babylonian: levee wouldnt have been done until 2008..even if they had actually thought it was viable
2005.09.02 [02:36] tamas: Aha, thinks for the explanatikon on the MRE - I  did not realize they contained their own chemical reaction heater element. Pretty neat.
2005.09.02 [02:36] Remillard: groundup: :( probably better to volunteer as a civvie if you can
2005.09.02 [02:36] zardinuk: postmodern: even more fishy, popularity contest to the max
2005.09.02 [02:36] SplitInfinty: ok
2005.09.02 [02:36] johnboy: As an engineer, I wonder if the engineers responsible for the levee system in the Nola area are going to lose their stamps????
2005.09.02 [02:36] Number44: I buy cases of MRE's on ebay (the real US Gov't ones) for $60 or so in non-emergency times
2005.09.02 [02:36] groundup: Remillard: sent a letter to the Salvation Army. I don't trust the Red Cross.
2005.09.02 [02:36] Klowner: tamas: yeah they're neat
2005.09.02 [02:36] Babylonian: Fergasun:  actually the emergency management people in New Orleans were.. there were  9 or 10 articles in the newspaper down there about how the war took all the Levee funds
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2005.09.02 [02:36] postmodern: zardinuk, sadly it takes alot of money to run in politics these days
2005.09.02 [02:36] wankle: john: no
2005.09.02 [02:36] Sad_and_Angry: News media, especially television is just another revenue stream, just as American Idol and Desperate Houswives are.
2005.09.02 [02:37] wankle: they've been trying to get money for years and years to fix and reinforce them
2005.09.02 [02:37] Number44: and anyone, current active or RETIRED duty military can buy them from the PX ... you just gotta take a printed PDF showing the rules to them and they can order
2005.09.02 [02:37] johnboy: wankle: good point
2005.09.02 [02:37] Wohali: OK, folks, let's drop the political haranguing....not useful
2005.09.02 [02:37] SplitInfinty: Any moderators in here?
2005.09.02 [02:37] zardinuk: I'd like to see a politician who made a positive difference in the world in the private sector, like came up with a new drug or source of energy or something, someone with proven track record of intelligence
2005.09.02 [02:37] wankle: they knew what they had to do to make them work, they've just been unable to
2005.09.02 [02:37] Frungy: Does anyone have a clip of the Paula Zahn interview with the FEMA director yet??
2005.09.02 [02:37] groundup: Number44: go to the field and they begin to suck. They get old and boring
2005.09.02 [02:37] Remillard: johnboy: that system is ubercomplex... there have been SO many water storage studies, flood plain studies... it needed more work, didn't happen... so it goes
2005.09.02 [02:37] Wohali: splitinfinity:  What can I do for you?
2005.09.02 [02:37] postmodern: got to keep people glues to the boob tube, so they can watch those advertisements
2005.09.02 [02:37] Number44: ground: no denying that, I only take them for short trips
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2005.09.02 [02:37] Cellulaer: lol.. stupid politician thanking the leaders.. give me a break
2005.09.02 [02:37] Sad_and_Angry: News media, especially television is just another revenue stream, just as American Idol and Desperate Houswives are.
2005.09.02 [02:37] Babylonian: Frungy:  I haven't seen it around yet
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2005.09.02 [02:37] Number44: and I keep a few in the office for when I'm ultra lazy
2005.09.02 [02:37] Fergasun: Babylonian: Yes, but they are just trying to get pork.... :)
2005.09.02 [02:37] postmodern: i dig CSPAN, no ads and the street coverage of government in action
2005.09.02 [02:37] adownie: yeah, eating those damn things for more than a week gets real old
2005.09.02 [02:37] postmodern: also BOOK-TV is pretty cool
2005.09.02 [02:37] solcita: SplitInfinty: here, just trying to keep up...
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2005.09.02 [02:38] adownie: unless you have the original beef patty one :-)
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2005.09.02 [02:38] buddylazier: I thought C-SPAN stopped airing Book TV
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2005.09.02 [02:38] Fergasun: Our politics is f'ed up because the government has too much money... representatives / senators should make the average salary of their districts...
2005.09.02 [02:38] SplitInfinty: Important message to relay, I cannot reach anyone at DirectNic.... their fuel is running out hour by hour and they posted that they needed it.... we have a fleet on the way and we can let them have some as well
2005.09.02 [02:38] zardinuk: postmodern: supposed sponsor-free TV has money flowing under the table
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2005.09.02 [02:38] postmodern: buddylazier, not the last time i tuned in
2005.09.02 [02:38] Babylonian: Cafferty Goes Off on the Administration on CNN - (Link: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/The-Situation-Room-Cafferty-on%20Katrina.wmv)http://movies.crooksandliars.com/The-Situation-Room-Cafferty-on%20Katrina.wmv
2005.09.02 [02:38] bennyfactor: buddylazier: it's on Cspan2
2005.09.02 [02:38] SplitInfinty: just need to somehow get them the message
2005.09.02 [02:38] groundup: Damn, I guess I will leave another message with my armory. I keep trying every venue to get there.
2005.09.02 [02:38] Klowner: when I was little my friend's older brother was military, so he got us some MRE's, that was always fun
2005.09.02 [02:38] SplitInfinty: their generator wont last that long on what they got
2005.09.02 [02:38] postmodern: zardinuk, do you have evidance for such common practices you claim?
2005.09.02 [02:38] zardinuk: Fergasun: yeah, politicians should make $0.00/year with no benefits
2005.09.02 [02:38] snarky|away: Cafferty is my new media hero. I actually applauded.
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2005.09.02 [02:38] groundup: Maybe I will skip them and go to battalion or even BDE
2005.09.02 [02:39] johnboy: there has got to be a way to bait the gunmen to come out... air force ones in the middle of the street... etc etc
2005.09.02 [02:39] Sad_and_Angry: Post: yep
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2005.09.02 [02:39] zardinuk: postmodern: yeah... I used to work at a radio station
2005.09.02 [02:39] Number44: zard: thus making sure a working person will NEVER be a politician
2005.09.02 [02:39] Wohali: snax: I still don't have your msg
2005.09.02 [02:39] solcita: SplitInfinty: try mentioning in #interdictor-relief too
2005.09.02 [02:39] Fergasun: zardinuk: I'm saying something around mean or median of their district
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2005.09.02 [02:39] maven: politicians should be down on the ground handing out food and shooting the crims
2005.09.02 [02:39] DiveFox: Palion Networks is missing a line tech in New Orleans.  Anyone seen a white Crown Vic driving around with "PALION NETWORKS" in red on the side?
2005.09.02 [02:39] groundup: if need be, I have no problem going to the state HG or Div HQ
2005.09.02 [02:39] zardinuk: Number44: they can be a politician when they retire
2005.09.02 [02:39] ScaryFast: welp, I have to get up for work in 6 hours. off to bed for me. I hope there's a CNN stream or something online during the day tomorrow so I can watch at work.
2005.09.02 [02:39] bennyfactor: Get to stompin' in my air force ones (big boy)
2005.09.02 [02:39] johnboy: haha
2005.09.02 [02:39] postmodern: zardinuk, are you sure it was just that radio station, or do you have information reguarding other multiple radio stations
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2005.09.02 [02:39] SplitInfinty: ok will do
2005.09.02 [02:39] Number44: zard: and make sure that retirees are well represented in congress :)
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2005.09.02 [02:39] DiveFox: I'm about to go down myself if nobody's seen him.
2005.09.02 [02:39] zardinuk: postmodern: the gov says "you can't pay to air your songs" but the record companies hand out bribes
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2005.09.02 [02:40] zardinuk: its illegal but profitable even if they get caught
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2005.09.02 [02:40] postmodern: zardinuk, ug that sickens me
2005.09.02 [02:40] johnboy: has anyone heard about the progress oil companies are making in repairs??
2005.09.02 [02:40] SplitInfinty: We are also hauling in 24 tons of food and clothing our company gathered
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2005.09.02 [02:40] postmodern: zardinuk, most of the "community owned" stations do not do that stuff
2005.09.02 [02:40] zardinuk: postmodern: I imagine politics is 10x worse than the recording industry
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2005.09.02 [02:40] wankle: john: no, I'm really curious though
2005.09.02 [02:40] zardinuk: postmodern: how do you know?
2005.09.02 [02:41] DiveFox: johnboy: I have no idea
2005.09.02 [02:41] SplitInfinty: diapers/baby formula and etc
2005.09.02 [02:41] postmodern: zardinuk, as the mainstream taste in music is soo far off of what they play
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2005.09.02 [02:41] buddylazier: Split: try channel interdictor-tech
2005.09.02 [02:41] adownie: pipelines are up partially (60%) I think
2005.09.02 [02:41] checkercab: i know the east-coast pipeline was up to 50% capacity today and work was progressing well
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2005.09.02 [02:41] SplitInfinty: which is why we got free passage
2005.09.02 [02:41] bennyfactor: johnboy: I heard the two pipelines -- colonial? nad something else -- are back up
2005.09.02 [02:41] adownie: 12 platforms sunk, adrift, or missing
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2005.09.02 [02:41] SplitInfinty: will do
2005.09.02 [02:41] postmodern: zardinuk, because i hear 0% of pop on these stations, they are too "wacko hippie liberal" for the record labels
2005.09.02 [02:41] Rawnzilla: anyone hear about how tourists were held at gunpoint when they tried to leave new orleans?
2005.09.02 [02:41] snax: Wohali: i'm not registered with freenode, and it asks for a password i don't have...so i can't respond to PMs on this server
2005.09.02 [02:41] zardinuk: postmodern: A free vending machine appears in the radio station, you ask where it came from and nobody knows
2005.09.02 [02:41] checkercab: colonial is the east-coast one
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2005.09.02 [02:41] johnboy: oil... you gotta love the stuff
2005.09.02 [02:41] postmodern: zardinuk, and they have a board of publically elected directors and all that
2005.09.02 [02:41] MetsRallyNick: (Link: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9927/noani2gt.gif)http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9927/noani2gt.gif
2005.09.02 [02:41] tamas: What are the pipelines pumping FROM if the refineries are still done, or are they coming up as well?
2005.09.02 [02:41] zardinuk: postmodern: yeah exactly, you got shows like "democracy now"
2005.09.02 [02:41] Wohali: snax: ok, you can find me on efnet as "Wohali"
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2005.09.02 [02:41] Babylonian: Ex-Army Corps officials say Bush cuts hurt flood protection. Current Army Corps officials lie to avoid becoming ex-Army Corps officials.    (Link: http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0905/090105jv1.htm)http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0905/090105jv1.htm
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2005.09.02 [02:41] postmodern: zardinuk, yeah and a tone of local recorded ones
2005.09.02 [02:41] johnboy: have any of you guys been to weeks island in LA?
2005.09.02 [02:41] zardinuk: I was listing to PBS radio and I heard that "song" that was just a bunch of clips of bush re-arranged to make him sound like a nazi
2005.09.02 [02:42] Lafayette: heheh Baby
2005.09.02 [02:42] postmodern: zardinuk, kboo.fm that's one in my area
2005.09.02 [02:42] johnboy: where they have some reserves
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2005.09.02 [02:42] johnboy: Lafayette... are you in Laf right now?
2005.09.02 [02:42] adownie: man, the repairs would still be 3 years from completion even if they had the funding
2005.09.02 [02:42] Lafayette: Yes
2005.09.02 [02:42] postmodern: NRP is ok, but i hear a tone of flat out pandering on it alot
2005.09.02 [02:42] johnboy: coo
2005.09.02 [02:42] adownie: wouldn't have helped
2005.09.02 [02:42] johnboy: you've been to weeks island?
2005.09.02 [02:42] postmodern: like they are all "GO GO WAR WAR" leading up to the invasion
2005.09.02 [02:42] Number44: NPR really embarrased Chertoff today
2005.09.02 [02:42] postmodern: no actual real news
2005.09.02 [02:42] Lafayette: I ave, yes =)
2005.09.02 [02:42] Etcetera: adownie: *exactly*
2005.09.02 [02:42] Wohali: snax: I'll email you my address, if you want you can email me directly.
2005.09.02 [02:42] MagiusMoo: Any good radio shows online now?
2005.09.02 [02:42] bennyfactor: NPR is good for Wait Wait Don't Tell Me
2005.09.02 [02:42] johnboy: I've heard they have cameras and shit in the woods and stuff
2005.09.02 [02:42] zardinuk: postmodern: yeah, PBS is owned by the liberals, there has got to be money going around under the table
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2005.09.02 [02:42] spartanking: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Bush administration funding cuts forced federal engineers to delay improvements on the levees, floodgates and pumping stations that failed to protect New Orleans from Hurricane Katrina's floodwaters, agency documents showed on Thursday.
2005.09.02 [02:42] SplitInfinty: Do you guys think we should ship shovels and tools too?
2005.09.02 [02:43] bennyfactor: and Prarie Home Companion, although they don't produce it
2005.09.02 [02:43] snax: Wohali- okay- i'm heading back over to cuckoo.net #alg for a late night laugh at the expense of drunk horny geeks... snax on there, and snaxxx on livejournal
2005.09.02 [02:43] SplitInfinty: opinions please
2005.09.02 [02:43] Lafayette: hadn't heard that
2005.09.02 [02:43] postmodern: zardinuk, it's not owned by liberals, it's government funded
2005.09.02 [02:43] BeanFriedPork: PBS aint "owned" by anyone. It is funded entirely by the government and private doners.
2005.09.02 [02:43] postmodern: zardinuk, ie congress
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2005.09.02 [02:43] tamas: Well, one thing we know will happen: the Amry Corps of Engineers is about to get a HUGE budget increase. :)
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2005.09.02 [02:43] BeanFriedPork: PBS = PUBLIC Broadcasting System.
2005.09.02 [02:43] Wohali: Folks, let's try and keep the politics out
2005.09.02 [02:43] zardinuk: postmodern: sure it is
2005.09.02 [02:43] postmodern: zardinuk, ie the "Public Broadcasting Service"
2005.09.02 [02:43] Wohali: Thank you
2005.09.02 [02:43] adownie: or some bulldozers
2005.09.02 [02:43] johnboy: sparktanking: thanks for the info... that is some good stuff
2005.09.02 [02:43] postmodern: zardinuk, please do some research and stop trolling with broad statements
2005.09.02 [02:43] MagiusMoo: Isn't Tucker Carlson on PBS now?
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2005.09.02 [02:43] checkercab: well folks, time for me to bug out.  send money, volunteer, and for God's sake PRAY.  if anyone needs a miracle, it's the victims of this horrible tragedy
2005.09.02 [02:43] spartanking: np
2005.09.02 [02:43] evil_saltine: he was
2005.09.02 [02:43] Lafayette: but I loves the politics =)
2005.09.02 [02:43] Number44: anyone here monitor the HAM traffic in the NO area during this?  was wondering what frequencies got the most traffic ,thinking about getting my license now
2005.09.02 [02:43] evil_saltine: he left to go to CNN
2005.09.02 [02:43] tamas: Maybe the Department of Homeland Security will become a subdepartment of the Army Corps? ;)
2005.09.02 [02:43] johnboy: how is operation "Giant Tampon" proceding by the way?
2005.09.02 [02:44] solcita: this isn't the place for it.
2005.09.02 [02:44] adownie: this is the same corps of engineers that CAUSED the mississippi floods because of their levees
2005.09.02 [02:44] Frungy: religion won't save you, but this isnt the place
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2005.09.02 [02:44] zardinuk: postmodern: guess you haven't heard the news on PBS lately
2005.09.02 [02:44] MagiusMoo: evil_saltine: You mean MSNBC?
2005.09.02 [02:44] evil_saltine: oh yea
2005.09.02 [02:44] bennyfactor: MagiusMoo: I thought he had a show on MSNBC
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2005.09.02 [02:44] johnboy: have they plugged the levees yet?
2005.09.02 [02:44] zardinuk: postmodern: google for PBS liberal bias
2005.09.02 [02:44] postmodern: Number44, do it, the HAM is still the best way to send and receive information in an emergeny
2005.09.02 [02:44] SplitInfinty: I have been monitoring my 10M and 2M remote relays
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2005.09.02 [02:44] tamas: No plugging of levees.
2005.09.02 [02:44] SplitInfinty: KE6VDW here. :-)
2005.09.02 [02:44] dx2: johnboy: nope
2005.09.02 [02:44] BeanFriedPork: Well, the Bush Admin decided to add a couple of right wing shows for balance, as PBS admitedly is skewed a bit to the left at times. Of course, I'm left of center myself.
2005.09.02 [02:44] Etcetera: john: 1 is done, they're working on the other (afaik)
2005.09.02 [02:44] tamas: Last I heard, 50% complete on 17th canal.
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2005.09.02 [02:44] postmodern: zardinuk, google for PBS conservative bias
2005.09.02 [02:44] SplitInfinty: Its chaos.
2005.09.02 [02:44] adownie: Rule #1:  never redirect rivers...  they tend to go where they need to
2005.09.02 [02:44] dx2: johnboy: (Link: http://www.wwltv.com/sharedcontent/nationworld/katrina/stories/090105ccjcwccwMainKatrina.4c55a2f6.html)http://www.wwltv.com/sharedcontent/nationworld/katrina/stories/090105ccjcwccwMainKatrina.4c55a2f6.html
2005.09.02 [02:44] postmodern: zardinuk, i've heard some very right wing talk out of PBS and very left wing talk
2005.09.02 [02:45] Number44: post: technicial license, or study code and get general.... I came within like 2 questions of passing the tech license sample exam totally cold
2005.09.02 [02:45] FCYTravis: KG6EME
2005.09.02 [02:45] spartanking: Col. Henry Whitehorn, chief of the Louisiana State Police, said he heard of numerous instances of New Orleans police officers — many of whom from flooded areas — turning in their badges.
2005.09.02 [02:45] spartanking: "They indicated that they had lost everything and didn't feel that it was worth them going back to take fire from looters and losing their lives," Whitehorn said.
2005.09.02 [02:45] spartanking: (Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/hurricane_katrina;_ylt=AkAvCws1BTJkMx.YcwUiB9kbLisB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/hurricane_katrina;_ylt=AkAvCws1BTJkMx.YcwUiB9kbLisB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
2005.09.02 [02:45] zjohnson: uuugh.
2005.09.02 [02:45] dx2: they are talking about plugging the holes with sandbags or something
2005.09.02 [02:45] zjohnson: ccn..
2005.09.02 [02:45] tamas: As anyone in a technical discipline knows, the 0-95% of a project is eeasy, though.
2005.09.02 [02:45] zardinuk: (Link: http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=32&url_article_id=5678&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2)http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=32&url_article_id=5678&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2
2005.09.02 [02:45] Lafayette: well, if I can't talk politics, I'm gonna just leave in a huff! (actually tired and going to bed) =)
2005.09.02 [02:45] postmodern: zardinuk, apparently it's ran by humans who have biases
2005.09.02 [02:45] bennyfactor: adownie: except in Chicago
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2005.09.02 [02:45] adownie: Rule #2:  Never build houses on floodplains
2005.09.02 [02:45] tamas: It's closing the 5% at the end that is tough.
2005.09.02 [02:45] adownie: heh
2005.09.02 [02:45] adownie: true
2005.09.02 [02:45] DiveFox: As crappy as it sounds, why not fill in what's there with ready-mix, and then rebuild the town above sea level?
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2005.09.02 [02:45] zardinuk: postmodern: humans who can be corrupted with money, thats what I'm saying!
2005.09.02 [02:45] BeanFriedPork: Yes, giant 20,000 pound sandbags. It's a start.
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2005.09.02 [02:45] zardinuk: politics is a horrendously corrupting force
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2005.09.02 [02:45] adownie: Rule #3:  Always build above sea level
2005.09.02 [02:45] postmodern: zardinuk, until you provide clear and valid proof of this, it's just a hypothesis
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2005.09.02 [02:45] tamas: DiveFox, that's a serious question they might want to task in light of many stoires suggesting that evacuees have no intent to return,.
2005.09.02 [02:45] dx2: BeanFriedPork: if they finally are able to fly choppers... they seem afraid of snipers or something
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2005.09.02 [02:45] bennyfactor: Well, the old part of town is above sea level
2005.09.02 [02:46] SplitInfinty: 73's
2005.09.02 [02:46] Rawnzilla: they should just dump instant cement on the water
2005.09.02 [02:46] Rawnzilla: rebuild from there
2005.09.02 [02:46] BeanFriedPork: Well, the levees, aren't they a bit away from the city proper
2005.09.02 [02:46] Lafayette: Night all, and pony up to the Red Cross or somebody.  People need help.
2005.09.02 [02:46] BeanFriedPork: ?
2005.09.02 [02:46] adownie: we should just make new new orleans a really big boat
2005.09.02 [02:46] BeanFriedPork: Or something?
2005.09.02 [02:46] zardinuk: postmodern: directors at PBS promised to try harder to eliminate bias
2005.09.02 [02:46] johnboy: tamas and divefox: I have friends that have a perfectly good house.. and they do not want to return to it
2005.09.02 [02:46] BeanFriedPork: I thought the sniper deally was just around the superdome
2005.09.02 [02:46] Frungy: I don't trust the Red Cross
2005.09.02 [02:46] zardinuk: postmodern: isn't that evidence?
2005.09.02 [02:46] postmodern: i wonder if some private contractor is going to employ some sort of quick cement
2005.09.02 [02:46] DiveFox: Tamas: I'm about to drive a couple of my company's 20 kW generators down to the Superdome so those poor people in it can at least have AC.
2005.09.02 [02:46] CSMan: it's amazing. "i had to leave, to no longer return." A.D. 2005
2005.09.02 [02:46] Cellulaer: 3000 ton sand bags sound big but in the photo of them over the break in the leeve they looked like basketballs
2005.09.02 [02:46] * Jerub ponders how to deliver a million metric tons of instant cement.
2005.09.02 [02:46] postmodern: to repair the leeves
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2005.09.02 [02:46] dx2: BeanFriedPork: no, they have reports around hospitals, everywhere.  The mayor asked the boat rescue efforts to stop due to lawlessness
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2005.09.02 [02:46] johnboy: DiveFox: come install one in my house for future hurricanes
2005.09.02 [02:46] zardinuk: postmodern: it's naive of you to say that because it's government funded that it has no bias
2005.09.02 [02:47] postmodern: zardinuk, no thats a statement
2005.09.02 [02:47] postmodern: zardinuk, a vague one with no supporting facts
2005.09.02 [02:47] wankle: yeah, 3k pounds of sand isn't much
2005.09.02 [02:47] * ligar eating an mre
2005.09.02 [02:47] DiveFox: johnboy: you can buy one.
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2005.09.02 [02:47] Darkest_Ancient: 3000 1ton sandbags... maybe... there are no 3000 ton sandbags...
2005.09.02 [02:47] starla: Helo
2005.09.02 [02:47] Darkest_Ancient: or just 3000 sandbags period
2005.09.02 [02:47] coyotej: The big problems that will arise in the area is the disease from the contaminated water. This will hamper recovery/reconstruction of the city
2005.09.02 [02:47] postmodern: zardinuk, please let's cease this argument since we have gone no where
2005.09.02 [02:47] johnboy: divefox: how much?
2005.09.02 [02:47] spartanking: t least seven bodies were scattered outside the convention center, a makeshift staging area for those rescued from rooftops, attics and highways. The sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement.
2005.09.02 [02:47] dx2: Darkest_Ancient: 3000 pounds
2005.09.02 [02:47] tanto: they need to sink a ship on top of the levee
2005.09.02 [02:47] BeanFriedPork: Yeah, I think its about time to shoot snipers on site. More lives will be saved overall.
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2005.09.02 [02:47] zardinuk: postmodern: ok, well you stick by your PBS obviously it has served you well
2005.09.02 [02:47] wankle: think of a 60lb bag of cement, it's only 50 of those
2005.09.02 [02:48] adownie: the worst part is they have to punch holes in the levee after they plug these to drain the water
2005.09.02 [02:48] postmodern: zardinuk, and it's just talking up space in this channel
2005.09.02 [02:48] tanto: on the break
2005.09.02 [02:48] CSMan: i read they were 10k lbs bags
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2005.09.02 [02:48] tanto: that would be a sweet restaurant/hotel after it's sealed =]
2005.09.02 [02:48] DiveFox: johnboy: email me at abuse@divefox.net if you're seriously interested.
2005.09.02 [02:48] wankle: downie: uhm, no
2005.09.02 [02:48] dx2: adownie: no, they have pumps
2005.09.02 [02:48] zjohnson: anyone hear anything about ARRL?
2005.09.02 [02:48] Cellulaer: pounds not tons sorry
2005.09.02 [02:48] zardinuk: yeah you read my mind
2005.09.02 [02:48] adownie: yup
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2005.09.02 [02:48] adownie: that's what they said
2005.09.02 [02:48] Number44: zj: they're pretty active right now I'm sure
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2005.09.02 [02:48] johnboy: divefox: I'm not seriously interested... just curious
2005.09.02 [02:48] postmodern: zardinuk, as i said before, i don't listen to PBS, and i find it very Right Wing sometimes, thus me not listenin
2005.09.02 [02:48] wankle: punch a hole in them to drain them where?
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2005.09.02 [02:48] Etcetera: umm.. I'm not sure if a 10,000lb bag of sand would be makeable
2005.09.02 [02:48] adownie: the river I think
2005.09.02 [02:48] Rawnzilla: so..is it pretty much like, gangs rule the streets in certain areas?
2005.09.02 [02:48] * ligar eating a good mre
2005.09.02 [02:48] UJoF: ARRL = Ham Radio?
2005.09.02 [02:49] dx2: postmodern: you should tune in fox ;)
2005.09.02 [02:49] buddylazier: PBS is tv
2005.09.02 [02:49] tamas: Who was going to drive generators to the SuperDome?
2005.09.02 [02:49] Number44: american radio relay league
2005.09.02 [02:49] dx2: Rawnzilla: yes
2005.09.02 [02:49] johnboy: divefox was
2005.09.02 [02:49] CSMan: how many in there?
2005.09.02 [02:49] Etcetera: zjohnson: tyey're in a holding patter, from what I heard
2005.09.02 [02:49] DiveFox: johnboy: I'd have to check with the equipment manager.
2005.09.02 [02:49] Jerub: Rawnzilla: if you have a gun and two friends, you own the street you stand in.
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2005.09.02 [02:49] Etcetera: pattern
2005.09.02 [02:49] BeanFriedPork: 20,000 "sandbags" already exist. It was on the news.
2005.09.02 [02:49] dx2: Rawnzilla: too many people with guns around
2005.09.02 [02:49] jt_34: For anyone interested, I've been blogging any URLs that have come across in the various channels for the last few hours. Some really interesteding stories: (Link: http://willrawls.blogspot.com)http://willrawls.blogspot.com
2005.09.02 [02:49] CSMan: it's gonna get hotter in the morning.
2005.09.02 [02:49] postmodern: dx2, that would be like taking a drill, and inserting it into my skull
2005.09.02 [02:49] tamas: Given the volume inside the dome, could generators do much of anything?
2005.09.02 [02:49] Etcetera: hmm
2005.09.02 [02:49] adownie: they drain most of the water with new holes, then fire up the pumps after plugging the new holes
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2005.09.02 [02:49] johnboy: divefox: getting married to a doctor eventually... when I do I'll look you guys up
2005.09.02 [02:49] dx2: postmodern: hahahaha
2005.09.02 [02:50] johnboy: haha
2005.09.02 [02:50] inter135: Is there a working vid feed?
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2005.09.02 [02:50] postmodern: any source have an estiment as to how much oil and gas is in the water
2005.09.02 [02:50] dx2: inter135: they seem down for the night
2005.09.02 [02:50] mcsmurf: well yes but  not much to see there ;)
2005.09.02 [02:50] DiveFox: tamas: I don't know.  I don't think the 3 spare APC spot coolers out of the machine room would do much for them either, though
2005.09.02 [02:50] red6|beijing: CNN Asia is replaying Anderson's smackdown
2005.09.02 [02:50] Wohali: The best video feed I've found is the wwltv.com one which is offline until 5:30 AM CDT
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2005.09.02 [02:50] postmodern: worried about a change of enough collecting on the surface to state a fire
2005.09.02 [02:50] dx2: inter135:(Link: www.wwltv.com)www.wwltv.com has live feeds during the day
2005.09.02 [02:50] Etcetera: jt_34: check (Link: http://www.redwire.net/~jccleaver/katrina/)http://www.redwire.net/~jccleaver/katrina/ too
2005.09.02 [02:50] adownie: must really go to sleep
2005.09.02 [02:50] coyotej: postmodern: probably to soon for a reasonable estimate
2005.09.02 [02:50] tamas: It sounds to me that they are making every effort to abandon the dome.
2005.09.02 [02:50] CSMan: red6|beijing: the "i've seen a body being eaten by rats" one?
2005.09.02 [02:50] DiveFox: It is tempting to go looting, though
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2005.09.02 [02:50] MagiusMoo: WDSU is one of the best. (Link: http://www.wdsu.com/video/4926042/detail.html)http://www.wdsu.com/video/4926042/detail.html
2005.09.02 [02:50] tamas: Even if it had electricity back up, I think it is trashed beyond habitation, or soudns like it.
2005.09.02 [02:50] DiveFox: Just me and my Hyster 30...
2005.09.02 [02:50] bennyfactor: I know some of the gas mains are on fire
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2005.09.02 [02:50] mrdark: DiveFox: i'd bet most anything worth looting is already gone
2005.09.02 [02:50] dx2: DiveFox: yeh, loot 3 barbecues, to put where? in your backyard? :P
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2005.09.02 [02:51] starla: I have a question for anyone who knows anything about the New Orleans Situation....me and my friend want to help with the disaster... do you think it would be safe for two twenty year old women to sign up for the american red cross and go down there at this point
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2005.09.02 [02:51] inter135: There's an image of gas bubbling on fire through the water that looks so hellish
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2005.09.02 [02:51] red6|beijing: god she is a self righteous stupid ignoramus
2005.09.02 [02:51] buddylazier: god no
2005.09.02 [02:51] Rawnzilla: starla: no
2005.09.02 [02:51] dx2: starla: not good idea
2005.09.02 [02:51] starla: thank you
2005.09.02 [02:51] johnboy: starla: that depends on your physique
2005.09.02 [02:51] Wohali: starla:  No -- send money but don't head down
2005.09.02 [02:51] DiveFox: mrdark: Telxon inventory scanners from walmart, best buy, and target.  I bet those fuckers got ignored.
2005.09.02 [02:51] BlackLotus: Hey, Finnegan`.
2005.09.02 [02:51] stevesoft: Don't you need training?
2005.09.02 [02:51] wankle: starla: if you don't have any experience? don't go.
2005.09.02 [02:51] buddylazier: unless you have full auto AKs
2005.09.02 [02:51] starla: We are small
2005.09.02 [02:51] starla: no experience
2005.09.02 [02:51] starla: but we want to help
2005.09.02 [02:51] johnboy: starla: stay the hell away
2005.09.02 [02:51] wankle: give money, stay home
2005.09.02 [02:51] BeanFriedPork: I don't know what sort of helicopter can lift ten tons though.
2005.09.02 [02:51] Wohali: starla:  Then don't go, send cash or supplies, but don't go
2005.09.02 [02:51] zardinuk: starla: haha, you and like 50 million other 20 year old women
2005.09.02 [02:51] Darkest_Ancient: send money, send supplies
2005.09.02 [02:51] Finnegan`: Hiya, Lotus.
2005.09.02 [02:51] johnboy: wankle: word
2005.09.02 [02:51] * Finnegan` smiles
2005.09.02 [02:51] mrdark: starla: they'd probably stick you someplace in texas working phone banks
2005.09.02 [02:51] Number44: class 3 pretty easy to get in LA?
2005.09.02 [02:52] tamas: starla: yeah, stay the hell awayl
2005.09.02 [02:52] Rawnzilla: buddylazier, full auto is not good, gotta go on semi-auto, burst fire
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2005.09.02 [02:52] wankle: take all your clothes off, and take pictures of yourslf
2005.09.02 [02:52] johnboy: starla: red cross could prolly use your money
2005.09.02 [02:52] starla: well you know we mean the best
2005.09.02 [02:52] wankle: upload those pictures, and provide us with the URL
2005.09.02 [02:52] buddylazier: full auto, for you absolutely, positively must put a 3 foot hole in something
2005.09.02 [02:52] wankle: THAT is the way to help
2005.09.02 [02:52] DiveFox: The fact remains that I'm still missing a vehicle and a tech down in New Orleans, though
2005.09.02 [02:52] starla: dont be like that
2005.09.02 [02:52] bgordon: starla: i'm a 20 year old college student and i just sent applications to a few organizations
2005.09.02 [02:52] bgordon: starla: you never know.
2005.09.02 [02:52] tamas: There are plenty of ways to help that do not invovle going to New  Orleans.
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2005.09.02 [02:52] mc0: anyone have any insight as to why people are attacking the rescuers? :\
2005.09.02 [02:52] wankle: seriously though, going down there will not really help, sorry
2005.09.02 [02:52] mcsmurf: rumors partly
2005.09.02 [02:52] DiveFox: mc0: Because people suck.
2005.09.02 [02:52] Dopefish`: because they are crazy
2005.09.02 [02:52] Number44: mc0: because people are dicks
2005.09.02 [02:52] tamas: Much safer would be volunteering at a shelter in texas if you wanted to be 'hands-on' so to speak.
2005.09.02 [02:52] Ish_: Wankle: hi
2005.09.02 [02:52] bennyfactor: mc0: Because they're nuts
2005.09.02 [02:52] FCYTravis: mc0: Some of it is pure frustration
2005.09.02 [02:52] Ish_: Wankle: Joe?
2005.09.02 [02:52] Ish_: haha
2005.09.02 [02:53] mahtin: i used to work at the red cross, not in the disaster dept, and it was awful
2005.09.02 [02:53] mc0: I guess they want to die? :\
2005.09.02 [02:53] wankle: uh oh... someone knows my name
2005.09.02 [02:53] dx2: mahtin: it is
2005.09.02 [02:53] mrdark: rumors would have it that gangs think they can 'keep' the city for themselves, escape from new york style
2005.09.02 [02:53] wankle: who are you?
2005.09.02 [02:53] Ish_: hahaa
2005.09.02 [02:53] Finnegan`: What would ~you~ do if you were half naked, starving, and abandoned?
2005.09.02 [02:53] johnboy: For anyone who wants to help out, consider that doctors and EMTs are being shot at...
2005.09.02 [02:53] FCYTravis: They see people going by, "omg ur not helping me" and they shoot at 'em.
2005.09.02 [02:53] tamas: However, a real problem is that more people tthat go to help, the more people overlal that need to be watered and fed.
2005.09.02 [02:53] Ish_: <-- Nick
2005.09.02 [02:53] mc0: Finnegan`: I wouldn't shoot at the people trying to rescue me
2005.09.02 [02:53] wankle: from BI?
2005.09.02 [02:53] mc0: ;x
2005.09.02 [02:53] tamas: Which is why 40,000 national guardsmen in New Orleans might not turn out to be the great idea they think it is right now.
2005.09.02 [02:53] Ish_: Yea
2005.09.02 [02:53] bgordon: well, obviously it is important to go through an organization, instead of just driving on down.
2005.09.02 [02:53] wankle: haha, that's fucking funny
2005.09.02 [02:53] wankle: what's happening
2005.09.02 [02:53] Ish_: not much same as you apparently
2005.09.02 [02:53] mesh: I heard people were not shooting @ the helicopter but actually shooting in the air when they were near in attempts to get their attention...
2005.09.02 [02:53] wankle: small world
2005.09.02 [02:53] wankle: yeah
2005.09.02 [02:53] starla: i was going because my friend was determined to go. i found this place to ask because the media is making it out to sound like its not that bad and she believes all of it
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2005.09.02 [02:54] Ish_: Yep :]
2005.09.02 [02:54] Finnegan`: You ever been in that situation, mc0?
2005.09.02 [02:54] Number44: there are plenty of Afghani-warlord-wannabe's on the streets that would love to roam around and be kings of the trash pile
2005.09.02 [02:54] wankle: just messing around with the n00bs on here
2005.09.02 [02:54] Ish_: I know i want those naked pix
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2005.09.02 [02:54] Ish_: hooka bruddah up
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2005.09.02 [02:54] mcsmurf: Number44: *lol*
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2005.09.02 [02:54] wankle: you still talk to heather? she was over here after the wedding last week
2005.09.02 [02:54] inter135: This whole process has just filtered all the people who are most likely to do something like that.  If you had any money at all, you left.  If you respected requests of the government, you left.  If you had all your mental facilities, you left.  So what remains is the poor, those with no respect for the law, or the insane (broad generalization, I know).  But it's no surprise that when you take these people and put them under amazing stre
2005.09.02 [02:54] Ish_: Yeah she told me that you guys jacked her keys
2005.09.02 [02:54] mc0: Finnegan`: No, but I can' say I'm not a violent person and I'd rather get the hell out of a situation like that with someone elses help than try to fight them and stay
2005.09.02 [02:54] BeanFriedPork: Actually, I take that back. The MH-53E Sea Dragon, MH-53J Pave Low III, and CH-53E military heavy lift helicopters (all made by Sikorsky) can all lift up to 20,000 lbs.
2005.09.02 [02:54] dx2: it's funny to see we have very neat communication means and nothing to say...
2005.09.02 [02:54] dx2: ;)
2005.09.02 [02:54] wankle: I don't know what happened with that, someone took them
2005.09.02 [02:54] bennyfactor: bellum omnium conrta omnest at its.... finest? worst? whateverest
2005.09.02 [02:54] DiveFox: And seriously, the National Guard isn't the answer.  The Navy is.
2005.09.02 [02:54] FCYTravis: right inter35.
2005.09.02 [02:54] johnboy: inter135: word
2005.09.02 [02:54] FCYTravis: er 135.
2005.09.02 [02:54] wankle: she was fucking drunk though... so I don't feel too bad
2005.09.02 [02:54] Number44: dive: shelling from the coast?
2005.09.02 [02:54] DiveFox: Float a couple of destroyers down bourbon street
2005.09.02 [02:54] spartanking: About 15,000 to 20,000 people who had taken shelter at New Orleans convention center grew ever more hostile after waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead. Police Chief Eddie Compass said there was such a crush around a squad of 88 officers that they retreated when they went in to check out reports of assaults.
2005.09.02 [02:54] dx2: Number44: hahahaha
2005.09.02 [02:54] Ish_: haha i asked her if she was she denied it tho
2005.09.02 [02:54] starla: so is it true that they are thinking about abandoning new orleans?
2005.09.02 [02:55] Ish_: said that she was talking to a mirror
2005.09.02 [02:55] wankle: uh huh
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2005.09.02 [02:55] dx2: starla: don't think so
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2005.09.02 [02:55] Sollord: gotta love fire marshalls
2005.09.02 [02:55] Number44: abandoning would be kind, they need to BULLDOZE it
2005.09.02 [02:55] tamas: Starla, have your friend read something like:
2005.09.02 [02:55] lfwelty: so what's going on w/ ppl trying to get in to help - are they being turned back?
2005.09.02 [02:55] tamas: (Link: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/12537476.htm)http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/12537476.htm
2005.09.02 [02:55] zardinuk: they need to get richard simmons in there to show them how to run
2005.09.02 [02:55] starla: good thats awful
2005.09.02 [02:55] johnboy: haha
2005.09.02 [02:55] tamas: Which I think is an AP story.
2005.09.02 [02:55] buddylazier: they will rebuild, you can't let the hurricanes win
2005.09.02 [02:55] Number44: budddy: OMGLOL
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2005.09.02 [02:55] johnboy: I think tony little coudl really help new orleans right now
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2005.09.02 [02:55] mrdark: starla: it should be left once they rescue everyone, but that won't happen..we'll be paying to rebuild the city in the bowl for years to come
2005.09.02 [02:55] Comic-San: Seriously I am continously reminded of those movies
2005.09.02 [02:55] dx2: buddylazier: let's declare war on hurricanes
2005.09.02 [02:55] BeanFriedPork: Now, 20,000 lbs is also about 20,000 MREs, or about a third of what it would take to feed the people at the convention center in a day. Of course, they also need water, but still. Three military helicopters could carry enough food for a whole day for those people.
2005.09.02 [02:55] Comic-San: Escape from LA
2005.09.02 [02:55] Darkest_Ancient: sure you can, but you can't give up the mouth of the mississippi as a port
2005.09.02 [02:55] buddylazier: the War on Hurricanes will be fought for more than our lifetiem
2005.09.02 [02:55] ColloquySucks: well, i hope they rebuild several hundred feet above sea level
2005.09.02 [02:55] buddylazier: lifetime
2005.09.02 [02:55] Comic-San: and Escape from NY
2005.09.02 [02:56] coyotej: the rebuilding won't happen for a very long time if it does
2005.09.02 [02:56] wankle: stop the hurricanes!
2005.09.02 [02:56] starla: no we didnt read that we watched Paula Zahn, good choice I know
2005.09.02 [02:56] inter135: It's totally Escape from NY
2005.09.02 [02:56] bennyfactor: The Hurricanes hate our way of life
2005.09.02 [02:56] DiveFox: You know, we should just abandon New Orleans
2005.09.02 [02:56] wankle: destroy their training camps in the Atlantic!
2005.09.02 [02:56] Rawnzilla: NUKE THE EARTH. ITS THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THE HURRICANES
2005.09.02 [02:56] Darkest_Ancient: the rebuilding will be swift and direct... again
2005.09.02 [02:56] DiveFox: Let the looters have it
2005.09.02 [02:56] johnboy: haha
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2005.09.02 [02:56] bennyfactor: And they'll do everything to stop it
2005.09.02 [02:56] dx2: bennyfactor: haha
2005.09.02 [02:56] FCYTravis: hgahhaaha wankle
2005.09.02 [02:56] Darkest_Ancient: new orleans is too important a port to be left inactive
2005.09.02 [02:56] Number44: stop the senseless rebuilding!
2005.09.02 [02:56] jconway963: i feel sorry for the people that are kicking the poor folks left in new orleans while they are down and out ... blaming the victums is not the answer
2005.09.02 [02:56] dx2: Darkest_Ancient: yeh, cuz of OIL
2005.09.02 [02:56] mrdark: put a fence around it after getting all the meak out
2005.09.02 [02:56] DiveFox: And then set it on fire from the air
2005.09.02 [02:56] johnboy: Darkest_Anciet: I agree
2005.09.02 [02:57] kaosrain: Rawnzilla: hahaha
2005.09.02 [02:57] coyotej: it cannot be swift and direct because of the level of distruction
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2005.09.02 [02:57] mesh: anyone got the link to streams of the scanners/communication up around there?
2005.09.02 [02:57] inter135: Bush is apparently going to check it out soon.  I anticipate his helicopter going down.  Then the government makes the inevitable call to Kurt Russel
2005.09.02 [02:57] wankle: terror-cane training camps will kill us all
2005.09.02 [02:57] johnboy: dx2: more than oil
2005.09.02 [02:57] lfwelty: rawnzilla, nuke 'em from space - it's the only way to be sure...
2005.09.02 [02:57] mcsmurf: mesh: see topic
2005.09.02 [02:57] Wohali: mesh:  See #interdictor, /topic.
2005.09.02 [02:57] johnboy: it is the mouth of the largest river in the US
2005.09.02 [02:57] bennyfactor: So we need to destroy the trade winds, who aid and harbor these Hurricanes
2005.09.02 [02:57] KBR-BEN: Los Angeles has many earthquakes, and they still rebuild it.... this is the first time this has happened in ages... so they can learn from it... rebuild.... and go from there
2005.09.02 [02:57] Comic-San: jconway963: the 'victims' are mostly making it a lot worse for themselves
2005.09.02 [02:57] dx2: bennyfactor: hehe
2005.09.02 [02:57] DiveFox: Reroute the river!
2005.09.02 [02:58] Number44: jconway: they're not (for themost part...yes there are tourists there) victims, they refused to leave and to a certain extent brought the strife on themeslves
2005.09.02 [02:58] wankle: who's house has stairs in here?
2005.09.02 [02:58] spartanking: Are they gonna call the Mississippi state guard to guard NO instead of Iraq?
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2005.09.02 [02:58] starla: who in here is in New Orleans?
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2005.09.02 [02:58] DiveFox: wankle: I'm protected, thanks.
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2005.09.02 [02:58] mrdark: KBR-BEN: los angeles hasnt been totally destroyed
2005.09.02 [02:58] johnboy: no one prolly... power issue
2005.09.02 [02:58] Rawnzilla: "We need you to go in, Get the President, escape from New Orleans. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?"
2005.09.02 [02:58] TexasEMT: Grandma is protected as well.
2005.09.02 [02:58] wankle: cool
2005.09.02 [02:58] FCYTravis: KBR-BEN: LA isn't below sea level.
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2005.09.02 [02:58] FCYTravis: At the very least if they rebuild it, they should ensure that the land is above sea level.
2005.09.02 [02:58] inter135: Why can't anyone tell us specific timeframes?  I keep hearing soldiers are 'on the way' and food and water are 'on the way' but I don't get anyone saying 'They'll have food Friday morning'
2005.09.02 [02:58] bennyfactor: mrdark: But SF was in 1906
2005.09.02 [02:58] Sollord: Rebuild big and better levees but limit the population
2005.09.02 [02:58] mesh: Wohali: Not sure what you mean.... help a newb out
2005.09.02 [02:58] Number44: take a page from venice: rebuild over and over on top of what you have, fill in basements and build up
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2005.09.02 [02:58] Darkest_Ancient: "on the way" is political bullshit and covering up
2005.09.02 [02:58] mrdark: that'd be ironic if the president's plane went down and he survived..and we had to send kurt russell into New Orleans to save him
2005.09.02 [02:59] ColloquySucks: spartanking: mississipi has its own problems
2005.09.02 [02:59] BeanFriedPork: Ok, ok, yes: it wasn't very smart for people who could've gotten out, to try and stay. That doesn't mean they deserve to die. A functioning country is supposed to save its own, and if the fucking US of A can't pull this off, wtf?
2005.09.02 [02:59] Wohali: mesh:  See (Link: http://nola-intel.org)http://nola-intel.org the links are there
2005.09.02 [02:59] mesh: thnaks
2005.09.02 [02:59] Comic-San: inter135 that is because they don't want it not to happen and then get the blame for lying
2005.09.02 [02:59] lfwelty: and why can't we get down there to help, personally.
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2005.09.02 [02:59] Number44: beanfried: you give the USA more credit than we deserve with respect to valuing human life
2005.09.02 [02:59] mrdark: bennyfactor sf was wooden building and it was 1906
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2005.09.02 [02:59] lfwelty: why do we have to wait for the fucking govt to save them?
2005.09.02 [02:59] FCYTravis: San Francisco was not destroyed on anything resembling this scale. Nor was there the level of infrastructure.
2005.09.02 [02:59] lfwelty: or help?
2005.09.02 [02:59] {dm}: I am listening to the Astrodome Scanner atm, and things are just as bad in there
2005.09.02 [02:59] SkilletAudio: Pork, if the US of A cant pull it off, it means its a big goddamn problem. Big goddamn problems happen sometimes.
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2005.09.02 [03:00] bennyfactor: Still
2005.09.02 [03:00] DiveFox: Someone should put Lowtax in charge of the cleanup
2005.09.02 [03:00] zjohnson: downtown Sacramento is built on top of the original buildings
2005.09.02 [03:00] starla: whats happening dm
2005.09.02 [03:00] inter135: How are you hearing the scanner?  Is it online?
2005.09.02 [03:00] wankle: haha
2005.09.02 [03:00] tamas: Yes, dm, please tell more?
2005.09.02 [03:00] ltc: {dm}, are you listening online?
2005.09.02 [03:00] Rawnzilla: i think we need a new orleans
2005.09.02 [03:00] dx2: {dm}: got a link?
2005.09.02 [03:00] {dm}: Lost kids, 18hour days, no place for red cross deliverys
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2005.09.02 [03:00] Wohali: {dm} Where is the scanner for the astrodome?
2005.09.02 [03:00] zjohnson: there are underground passeges with storefronts
2005.09.02 [03:00] ltc: if so, what's the link?
2005.09.02 [03:00] starkravingblah: Galveston/Houston was "wiped out" in 1900 by a hurricane...they rebuilt and raised the city so many feet
2005.09.02 [03:01] {dm}: Sec.
2005.09.02 [03:01] ltc: cool
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2005.09.02 [03:01] DiveFox: wanlke: never underestimate the power of goons
2005.09.02 [03:01] ltc: thanks
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2005.09.02 [03:01] BeanFriedPork: Whatever. I'm just saying by all rights we should be able to do this. We have the resources. Also, the U.S. as a whole is not a single entity, and assigning a moral value to the country as a whole is silly.
2005.09.02 [03:01] FCYTravis: San Francisco in 1906 had a total population of 400,000. 225,000 homeless.
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2005.09.02 [03:01] AgentMulder: is there any information y'all have seen about Ochsner hospital
2005.09.02 [03:01] Sollord: We need to move billion of tons of dirt and raise the ground level
2005.09.02 [03:01] {dm}: Astrodome Scanner: (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/
2005.09.02 [03:01] DiveFox: Hey, when they rebuild it, will it be New New Orleans?
2005.09.02 [03:01] zjohnson: initially the city did not pay to have the sidewalks raised
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2005.09.02 [03:01] wankle: lowtax and radium need to blow into town in a tank and take the servers to a new colo
2005.09.02 [03:01] mc0: something like this happened to holland too..
2005.09.02 [03:01] bennyfactor: Chicago burned. Galveston got Hurrican'd.I mean, yeah, there wasn't nearly as much infrstructure, but still
2005.09.02 [03:02] SkilletAudio: Yes, the power of something awful goons to flood a chatroom and call everyone fags.
2005.09.02 [03:02] FCYTravis: We're talking about now 1.5+ million homeless?
2005.09.02 [03:02] buddylazier: dm: thanks for the link
2005.09.02 [03:02] asd127: congress needs to declare martial law in new orleans and let the army use deadly force against rioters
2005.09.02 [03:02] {dm}: Np.
2005.09.02 [03:02] Rawnzilla: we should send the goons down there
2005.09.02 [03:02] DiveFox: wankel: That's right!  SA's about to drop off the map!
2005.09.02 [03:02] mrdark: a good rain will flood NO again, and its only going to drop deeper into the earth
2005.09.02 [03:02] Rawnzilla: rescue everyone
2005.09.02 [03:02] bennyfactor: New Orleans exists because all my neighbors send their corn down the river
2005.09.02 [03:02] {dm}: LA does not have Martial Law on the books from what i have read.
2005.09.02 [03:02] BeanFriedPork: 1.5 million.... seems a little high imo... then again, it might not be.
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2005.09.02 [03:02] buddylazier: Martial law: (Link: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html)http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html
2005.09.02 [03:02] wankle: fox: they have to be thinking about that now, the power and connectivity is obviously not going to be available for months
2005.09.02 [03:02] asd127: doesnt matter if it is a federal declaration
2005.09.02 [03:03] bennyfactor: {dm}: Louisiana doesn't have common law, so they don't have martial law as such
2005.09.02 [03:03] wankle: moving the servers out in a week or so when things calm down make sense
2005.09.02 [03:03] {dm}: Thats what i thought.
2005.09.02 [03:03] Wohali: Louisiana is still based on Napoleonic Code
2005.09.02 [03:03] Number44: martial law declarable only when there are no functioning courts, and I don't think enough of LA is gone to say that
2005.09.02 [03:03] arden: yeah I cannot live without somethingawful
2005.09.02 [03:03] ltc: i'm being driven absolutely nuts by all the people spending this very important time blaming the bush administration
2005.09.02 [03:03] inter135: Wow, thanks dm
2005.09.02 [03:03] mrdark: i hope they don't waste my tax money on rebuilding it ..move it to a more reasonable place, something like that..but don't put it right back in the bowl
2005.09.02 [03:03] Etcetera: LA is the only state that doesn't operate under common law, right?
2005.09.02 [03:03] SkilletAudio: COnsider this. People are displaced. They cant stay at the astrodome. Theyve only got a few choices: long term encampment, finding family to stay with, or trying to start a new life somewhere. Or....
2005.09.02 [03:03] bennyfactor: Well, I don't think there are functioning courts in NOLA
2005.09.02 [03:03] laszlo: napoleonic code? only in Brando's day.
2005.09.02 [03:03] arden: I think I am gonna shoot myseld right now
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2005.09.02 [03:04] bennyfactor: Etcetera: Yes
2005.09.02 [03:04] Ish_: hahah
2005.09.02 [03:04] buddylazier: SA withdrawal is painful
2005.09.02 [03:04] Etcetera: (since it was originally french, I think)
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2005.09.02 [03:04] Fobax: someone should at least reroute the dns for something awful to a down due to a hurricane page
2005.09.02 [03:04] {dm}: Now they are loading people into the AstroArena..
2005.09.02 [03:04] FCYTravis: The NO metro area is 1.3 million
2005.09.02 [03:04] dx2: Etcetera: correct
2005.09.02 [03:04] wankle: buddy: tell me about it
2005.09.02 [03:04] BeanFriedPork: Were you a member of the boards there?
2005.09.02 [03:04] arden: gimme a break
2005.09.02 [03:04] FCYTravis: Add the Gulfport/Biloxi swath
2005.09.02 [03:04] SkilletAudio: I predict that in a few weeks, when it is still unhabitable down there, people are going to start flooding -back- becaue they dont knwo where else to go, demanding to be let back into new orleans.
2005.09.02 [03:04] arden: yeah
2005.09.02 [03:04] ben: I thought SA would make it through the hurricane :(
2005.09.02 [03:04] BeanFriedPork: I never signed up for the boards, but I heard they were fun.
2005.09.02 [03:05] bennyfactor: Well, Spanish and French and Spanish and French and ... how many times did it go back and forth?
2005.09.02 [03:05] SW-Ray: someone get me in contact with lowtax and i'll even provide hosting if he can redirect it
2005.09.02 [03:05] TexasEMT: BeanFriedPork: I think quite a few people here were members of the boards there
2005.09.02 [03:05] wankle: the kittensteaks board is a pretty poor replacement
2005.09.02 [03:05] arden: under the same name
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2005.09.02 [03:05] zardinuk: they dont use the astrodome for football do they!?!??!
2005.09.02 [03:05] asd127: "When the civil authority cannot operate, then martial law is not only constitutional, but would be necessary"
2005.09.02 [03:05] Comic-San: Well technically SA did make it through
2005.09.02 [03:05] Comic-San: they just had to cut it down
2005.09.02 [03:05] Comic-San: because they needed bandwidth
2005.09.02 [03:05] buddylazier: zardinuk: no
2005.09.02 [03:05] arden: yes the saints play there
2005.09.02 [03:05] SW-Ray: ben: they did, in a way... but had to be shut down because they were using too much bandwidth
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2005.09.02 [03:05] Comic-San: for more lifesaving matters
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2005.09.02 [03:05] ben: yeah, I read the page
2005.09.02 [03:05] DiveFox: SW-Ray: I bet Lomo Taxual and Radium already have something in the works right now
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2005.09.02 [03:06] buddylazier: not since 2002 I think
2005.09.02 [03:06] ben: I totally understand
2005.09.02 [03:06] MichaelMyers: when was the last time we had ... i mean a state, city, had martial law
2005.09.02 [03:06] {dm}: No, the astrodome now is not used for much anymore.  We have new stadiums in Houston for games.
2005.09.02 [03:06] zardinuk: good
2005.09.02 [03:06] bennyfactor: Yeah, something awful in the works (please don't kill me)
2005.09.02 [03:06] tamas: dm, is the new stadium called Reliant?
2005.09.02 [03:06] Wohali: For those who care about Napoleonic Code and its underpinnings in LA law, see (Link: http://tinyurl.com/85r3f)http://tinyurl.com/85r3f
2005.09.02 [03:06] {dm}: That is one.. yes
2005.09.02 [03:06] BeanFriedPork: Do you all use the Spectrum anymore?
2005.09.02 [03:06] ibanix: Is the scanner still active? I don't get anything
2005.09.02 [03:06] FCYTravis: The whole area is going to have to be essentially sealed
2005.09.02 [03:06] FCYTravis: such a massive, massive, massive cleanup job...
2005.09.02 [03:06] inter135: You have to click the 'listen' link at the top
2005.09.02 [03:06] DiveFox: I'm going to go on a ram-raid to get SA's servers
2005.09.02 [03:06] BeanFriedPork: I'd think a large basketball arena could house some additional refugees, like a few thousand or so.
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2005.09.02 [03:06] FCYTravis: absolutely insane.
2005.09.02 [03:06] DiveFox: I will masturbate all over them and hold them for my own
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2005.09.02 [03:07] asd127: I have doubts 10B is enough aid
2005.09.02 [03:07] tamas: Have you heard of any evacuees going to Reliant, dm?
2005.09.02 [03:07] wankle: haha
2005.09.02 [03:07] BeanFriedPork: It likely isn't. 10B is a preliminary aide package.
2005.09.02 [03:07] dx2: asd127: that's still 10 weeks of war in Iraq
2005.09.02 [03:07] Alias_: It's more important to release immediate funds, then the amount
2005.09.02 [03:07] tamas: I saw an article earlier saying some where headed there, but I think they made a typo regarding the Astrodome.
2005.09.02 [03:07] RossH: send people up to the detriot tigers stadium...no one watches them anyway
2005.09.02 [03:07] Alias_: Hence the 10b
2005.09.02 [03:07] Etcetera: interesting, Wohali
2005.09.02 [03:07] {dm}: I heard mention of it over on a Houston Cron blog from inside the dome, but nothing else
2005.09.02 [03:07] arden: I am sure that lowtax is taking signifgant measures to bring back SA
2005.09.02 [03:08] arden: since its his business and all
2005.09.02 [03:08] frostbotond: roshh LOL
2005.09.02 [03:08] Babylonian: "Where's Cheney?" Are they collaborating with Bush to keep an "open secret" out of the public eye because they know Bush will be furious if they do? Does everyone in DC know Cheney is ill but only Charlie Rangel of NYC has the guts to say it?
2005.09.02 [03:08] DiveFox: Send the homeless to Baltimore - nobody'll notice another 10,000 homeless in Balto
2005.09.02 [03:08] Babylonian:  (Link: http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--rangel-cheney0827aug27,0,7706994.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork&track=mostemailedlink)http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--rangel-cheney0827aug27,0,7706994.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork&track=mostemailedlink
2005.09.02 [03:08] BeanFriedPork: Damn, I mean, I've thought about it a little bit, but what would you take if you had only a few hours to leave your house and never come back, and you had to jam everything for three people into a midsize sedan?
2005.09.02 [03:08] Wohali: My sister-in-law majored in law at Tulane; I know a bit about LA law through her and just from growing up in NOLA.
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2005.09.02 [03:08] snarky|away: They're conserving gas for the Cheneybot. :D
2005.09.02 [03:08] arden: my dvds and my computer and some other personal shit
2005.09.02 [03:08] Wohali: BeanFriedPork:  There's a difference between the stubborn, and those who couldn't make it out on their own, naturally.
2005.09.02 [03:08] Sollord: Didn't one of the parish presidents seced from the US isn't that grounds for martial law
2005.09.02 [03:08] mcsmurf: :D
2005.09.02 [03:08] DiveFox: Hmmm...  New Orleans is now a case of WWBD
2005.09.02 [03:08] buddylazier: well, my guess is that Lowtax is having trouble getting ahold of Radium, and they are just waiting for the Bell OC3s to come back on
2005.09.02 [03:08] Alias_: BeanFriedPork, you'd get it dont, there's just be less arguing than for a normal car trip :)
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2005.09.02 [03:09] arden: maybe
2005.09.02 [03:09] ben: buddylazier: As far as I know, lowtax has phone contact with radium
2005.09.02 [03:09] RossH: Well.....when they were shipping the refugees from the Superdome to the Astrodome N.O. also tried to give them the saints to.....coulda been a deal breaker :-/
2005.09.02 [03:09] Alias_: done
2005.09.02 [03:09] buddylazier: they don't have the proper equipment to run the forums
2005.09.02 [03:09] arden: I bet they will repoint the main site to a new location and have updates there
2005.09.02 [03:09] ben: buddylazier: radium posted about being safe and having phoned lowtax.
2005.09.02 [03:09] buddylazier: and DNS propogation takes time
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2005.09.02 [03:09] buddylazier: yes
2005.09.02 [03:09] buddylazier: I know
2005.09.02 [03:09] buddylazier: that doesn't mean they are in constant contact
2005.09.02 [03:09] DiveFox: Hey, let's send furries to NO to get the server
2005.09.02 [03:09] snarky|away: radium said if/when the site went down, they'd point it temporarily at a new location.
2005.09.02 [03:09] buddylazier: for all we know they have no power
2005.09.02 [03:09] wankle: he said they might do a simple front page at a new host
2005.09.02 [03:09] jconway963: ahh the 13 ,agic servers
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2005.09.02 [03:09] jconway963: magic
2005.09.02 [03:10] jconway963: oops
2005.09.02 [03:10] wankle: but that hasn't happened yet.
2005.09.02 [03:10] ibanix: by the way, I think this wins for worst joke of the week: (Link: http://www.livejournal.com/users/cowbert/59975.html)http://www.livejournal.com/users/cowbert/59975.html
2005.09.02 [03:10] BeanFriedPork: Deeds to the house, certificates, food, water, my laptop and computer accesories, essential clothing, my cats and their food (and a bag of kitty litter and their box), my cell phone and charger, my tool box, um.....
2005.09.02 [03:10] snarky|away: And possibly kludge up some forums.
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2005.09.02 [03:10] ben: buddylazier: I figure they have enough means of communication.
2005.09.02 [03:10] DiveFox: Is SA down right now?
2005.09.02 [03:10] ben: DiveFox: Yes
2005.09.02 [03:10] * Etcetera is the Sr. Sysadmin at a SoCal ISP.. lots of hosting space and bw available for katrina-related stuff if needed
2005.09.02 [03:10] buddylazier: yes
2005.09.02 [03:10] ben: But I have no clue how one would go about redirecting the domain name.
2005.09.02 [03:10] Etcetera: one of our founders is from LA
2005.09.02 [03:10] DiveFox: Man, 30,000 furs just cried out in unison
2005.09.02 [03:10] snarky|away: Yeah, they took SA down earlier today.
2005.09.02 [03:10] tamas: Astrodome scanner pretty quiet now.  Sounds like they are moving police forces around a bit, last I heard.
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2005.09.02 [03:11] buddylazier: I'm sure they're just waiting for the OC3s to get back online
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2005.09.02 [03:11] solcita: Etcetera: make sure you offer in #interdictor-tech too.
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2005.09.02 [03:11] buddylazier: the site could be up right now
2005.09.02 [03:11] DiveFox: ben: update the DNS records.  Radium should have done that by now.
2005.09.02 [03:11] Etcetera: sol: thx
2005.09.02 [03:11] ltc: oh god
2005.09.02 [03:11] buddylazier: but there's only one OC3 line to directnic atm
2005.09.02 [03:11] tamas: Of course, just as I said that, they have a patient going into diabetic shock in the Astrodome.
2005.09.02 [03:11] ltc: someone just went into diabetic shock in the dome
2005.09.02 [03:11] ltc: with no food and no water
2005.09.02 [03:11] starla: yeah i heard that
2005.09.02 [03:11] BeanFriedPork: Like, I think supposedly things are improving outside the city, but inside the city it is deadly still.
2005.09.02 [03:12] tamas: Requesting wheelchair to move the person.
2005.09.02 [03:12] {dm}: Tam: Its a bit, they are moving some of the crew to a place in the same parking lot.  From astrodome to Astroarena.
2005.09.02 [03:12] DiveFox: Welp, let's get looting
2005.09.02 [03:12] buddylazier: once the OC3s from Bell are back online, both Bell and Directnic have plenty of fuel to run the generators
2005.09.02 [03:12] BeanFriedPork: Deadly isn't the right word. "Horrific" is better.
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2005.09.02 [03:12] ben: DiveFox: Can I manually query the new dns server?
2005.09.02 [03:12] BeanFriedPork: "Catastrophic"
2005.09.02 [03:12] arden: they havent updated the SA records yet
2005.09.02 [03:12] buddylazier: which would give Radium time to buy new hardware and move SA to a different facility
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2005.09.02 [03:12] tamas: Dm, is the Astroarena part of the same sports compolex as the Astrodome?
2005.09.02 [03:12] DiveFox: ben: lemme check the authoritative nameserver for the zone
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2005.09.02 [03:13] arden: still the same divefox
2005.09.02 [03:13] buddylazier: it would make no sense to redirect the SA DNS
2005.09.02 [03:13] jconway963: you can post the ip address untill the nds servers catch up
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2005.09.02 [03:13] Frungy: radium said he already had the hardware set up for an offsite host of the SA Front page
2005.09.02 [03:13] buddylazier: unless Bell gives up on getting the OC3s back up
2005.09.02 [03:13] jconway963: it ain´t all www
2005.09.02 [03:13] DiveFox: buddy: They might
2005.09.02 [03:13] arden: yeah because everyone knows a random IP address
2005.09.02 [03:13] arden: thats pretty dumb
2005.09.02 [03:13] BeanFriedPork: And jeez, did the U.S. ever really have a real and coherent plan to deal with a nuclear war in the Cold War? We can't even save one city today.....
2005.09.02 [03:13] arden: how could you find it
2005.09.02 [03:13] {dm}: Tammas: Its in the same parking lot.  Large place that used to have conventions like gun shows/wedding shows years ago
2005.09.02 [03:13] DiveFox: man, is kjh still a crackhead?
2005.09.02 [03:13] majik: Cant you just flush your dns or something
2005.09.02 [03:14] Comic-San: well
2005.09.02 [03:14] arden: no
2005.09.02 [03:14] arden: lol
2005.09.02 [03:14] Comic-San: in the case of a nuclear war
2005.09.02 [03:14] majik: :)
2005.09.02 [03:14] jconway963: if its to a news server it wouldn´t be random
2005.09.02 [03:14] Comic-San: there wouldn't really be many people to save
2005.09.02 [03:14] buddylazier: I'm just saying that all that needs to happen is for Bell's techs to get their lines back up
2005.09.02 [03:14] jconway963: geezz
2005.09.02 [03:14] arden: they have to actueall update the root servers
2005.09.02 [03:14] Frungy: BeanFriedPork: Ever seen the BBC movie Threads?
2005.09.02 [03:14] freeLurker: anyone here know how to get setup to be a transcriber?
2005.09.02 [03:14] tamas: Sounds like they have people trying to force them into that other arena, but they are going to let them in soon anyway.
2005.09.02 [03:14] wankle: it wouldn't take very long to do a DNS move
2005.09.02 [03:14] DiveFox: buddy: but what if the CO is under 4 feet of water
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2005.09.02 [03:14] ltc: ooh.  one in custody
2005.09.02 [03:14] freeLurker: i'd like to transcribe tomorow morning-ish
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2005.09.02 [03:14] arden: yeah but if the city is this fucked thats a low priorty at this point
2005.09.02 [03:14] wankle: plus they could re-direct the old IP, because it's still up
2005.09.02 [03:14] {dm}: Yep Yep.
2005.09.02 [03:14] BeanFriedPork: No. I am aware of it. It is largely accurate from the account, although exagerates slightly on some minor points.
2005.09.02 [03:15] bennyfactor: Well, in a nuclear war, I don't think there'd be thousands of survivors stranded in a city
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2005.09.02 [03:15] buddylazier: I believe that Bell is on the same street as Directnic
2005.09.02 [03:15] BeanFriedPork: Also, the U.S. hypothetically wouldn't be quite as fucked as Britain in an identical scenario.
2005.09.02 [03:15] buddylazier: which isn't flooded
2005.09.02 [03:15] Wohali: I need a transcriber now for the Astrodome stream
2005.09.02 [03:15] BeanFriedPork: As Britain is small and dense.
2005.09.02 [03:15] dx2: bennyfactor: not true... in Hiroshima they had thousand of ill people
2005.09.02 [03:15] arden: If I were lowtax I would move my hosting
2005.09.02 [03:15] Comic-San: heck
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2005.09.02 [03:15] dx2: bennyfactor: they didnt know what to do though
2005.09.02 [03:15] Comic-San: Britain would be gone
2005.09.02 [03:15] ibanix: bennyfactor: actually I'm sure there would be more
2005.09.02 [03:16] majik: Whys the webcam staring at the wall :(
2005.09.02 [03:16] Comic-San: right abou tnow
2005.09.02 [03:16] DiveFox: Let's drop The Bomb on NO
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2005.09.02 [03:16] ltc: steam is a lot clearer if listened to with headphones
2005.09.02 [03:16] buddylazier: in any case, the generators are well above possible flood heights
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2005.09.02 [03:16] ben: arden: I would not. directnic hosting totally rocks.
2005.09.02 [03:16] buddylazier: and fiber doesn't care about flooding
2005.09.02 [03:16] bennyfactor: dx2: that weapon is more akin to tactical payloads these days
2005.09.02 [03:16] fiish: From Australia, I saw hello & hope things get better sooner rather than later. Watching all this on Fox/CNN etc via cable at the moment.... Intense stuff.
2005.09.02 [03:16] dx2: DiveFox: drop a nuke on NO and claim it's the work of terrorists...  Double function, so you can keep the hunt for terrists
2005.09.02 [03:16] arden: it makes sense from a business perspective to get the server out of a city in that condition
2005.09.02 [03:17] bennyfactor: or even during the 80s
2005.09.02 [03:17] bennyfactor: or 70s
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2005.09.02 [03:17] arden: yeah but the routers do
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2005.09.02 [03:17] majik: Wohali: Can you link to it, I want to listen
2005.09.02 [03:17] Frungy: zipa/directnic has definitely been the best host SA's ever had
2005.09.02 [03:17] wankle: depends where the fiber is going
2005.09.02 [03:17] DiveFox: dx2: I'll run down to DC in a bit and hold that up on a bedsheet outside the whitehouse
2005.09.02 [03:17] wankle: and what's at the other end
2005.09.02 [03:17] ltc: fiish, totally intense.  i'm american but i live in europe and i feel like shit coz i can't go and volunteer
2005.09.02 [03:17] dx2: DiveFox: hahaha
2005.09.02 [03:17] buddylazier: everything that can be affected by flooding is well above sea level
2005.09.02 [03:18] starkravingblah: (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/
2005.09.02 [03:18] DiveFox: the one that says "I ASSURE YOU WE'RE OPEN" on the other side
2005.09.02 [03:18] BeanFriedPork: But I mean, also, hasn't Dick Cheney beaten us over our heads over the possibility of nuclear terrorism? Is this the sort of response we can expect if a 10 kiloton nuclear warhead goes off somewhere?
2005.09.02 [03:18] arden: that may be true but....
2005.09.02 [03:18] dx2: BeanFriedPork: yes
2005.09.02 [03:18] Wohali: Link is being posted shortly
2005.09.02 [03:18] Babylonian:  A new Survey USA tracking poll finds that 59% of Americans say the federal government "is not doing enough to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina," up from 50% just 24 hours ago.
2005.09.02 [03:18] bennyfactor: I thought they were more worried about THE DIRTY BOMB
2005.09.02 [03:18] Wohali: Please use our mirror
2005.09.02 [03:18] fiish: There are polls here in Austraia asking if we should offer help. Most are coming back saying that America is rich enough to help themselves and we not send anything.
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2005.09.02 [03:18] DiveFox: OMFG, THE NEWSPAPER IN BALTIMORE CALLED THIS A TERRORIST ATTACK
2005.09.02 [03:18] dx2: bennyfactor: a dirty bomb is a joke
2005.09.02 [03:18] Wohali: (Link: http://www.goodphuck.com:8000)http://www.goodphuck.com:8000
2005.09.02 [03:19] Babylonian:  75% of Americans today say that local officials are unprepared to meet the challenge that is before them. This is up 14 points, from 61%, in the past 24 hours.
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2005.09.02 [03:19] Wohali: should be a mirror of the astrodome
2005.09.02 [03:19] Frungy: DiveFox: Serious?
2005.09.02 [03:19] Wohali: We will transcribe it in #interdictor-scanner3
2005.09.02 [03:19] ben: DiveFox: Link?
2005.09.02 [03:19] DiveFox: Frungy: Yes
2005.09.02 [03:19] ibanix: DiveFox: link
2005.09.02 [03:19] Babylonian:  34% of Americans today say the government’s response to the hurricane has been surprisingly disorganized, up 14 points in 24 hours.
2005.09.02 [03:19] Wohali: link please
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2005.09.02 [03:19] DiveFox: ben: Paper box on the corner.
2005.09.02 [03:19] bennyfactor: dx2: unless it's your part of town that gets irradiated
2005.09.02 [03:19] ibanix: take a picture
2005.09.02 [03:19] snarky|away: Only 75%?
2005.09.02 [03:19] tamas: Just 34%!?
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2005.09.02 [03:19] Frungy: DiveFox: what newspaper
2005.09.02 [03:19] dx2: bennyfactor: dirty bomb = more deaths due to fear than radiations
2005.09.02 [03:19] DiveFox: fiish: Yeah, but I bet we'd send help if you guys got fucked by a 'cane
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2005.09.02 [03:20] bennyfactor: Oh, of course
2005.09.02 [03:20] Babylonian:  (Link: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07cca787-8b35-4782-8416-f377beeb1222)http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=07cca787-8b35-4782-8416-f377beeb1222
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2005.09.02 [03:20] como: who's gonna help people at convention center if they shoot at copters and generally at feds?
2005.09.02 [03:20] dx2: bennyfactor: you can't spread the shit over a VERY large area... it just doesn't work
2005.09.02 [03:20] DiveFox: Frungy: Harford County Aegis
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2005.09.02 [03:20] dx2: bennyfactor: you'd need a crop sprayer and spray radioactivity... but that's quite far-fetched ;)
2005.09.02 [03:20] bennyfactor: Yeah
2005.09.02 [03:20] DiveFox: dx2: Let's spread the aids
2005.09.02 [03:20] DiveFox: Or furries
2005.09.02 [03:20] BeanFriedPork: That doesn't make me feel very safe, living in D.C.  I actually did some calculations once, and where I live, if a 10 kt nuclear bomb went off by the White House, I'm just far enough away where I'd probably survive the initial blast, and if the fallout blew the other way, I could avoid that too, but I guess I should expect that I'd be essentially fucked after that?
2005.09.02 [03:20] dx2: bennyfactor: you have to remember that the point is to scare people, not irradiate their backyard
2005.09.02 [03:20] dx2: DiveFox: hahaha
2005.09.02 [03:20] Frungy: (Link: http://www.theaegis.com/news.htm)http://www.theaegis.com/news.htm wow
2005.09.02 [03:20] Bigft420: OMG OMG OMG
2005.09.02 [03:20] Bigft420: WTF
2005.09.02 [03:20] acidstars: erm
2005.09.02 [03:20] fiish: The city of Darwin here in Oz was wiped out by Cyclone Tracy in 1974. The entire city was evacuated within 24hours of the disaster and there was no looting, murders etc. Ive got to say some of the actions by those in NO are quite suprising.
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2005.09.02 [03:21] Bigft420: i have been here for less then a minute and i am already discusted
2005.09.02 [03:21] Babylonian: BeanFriedPork:  if a nuke goes off you either want to be close enough to be vaporized, or really far away
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2005.09.02 [03:21] acidstars: but 1974 was eons ago
2005.09.02 [03:21] bennyfactor: Though the full-on exchange maps from the old fema had a good radiation spread... maybe the terroristas can buy Kazakhstan
2005.09.02 [03:21] BeanFriedPork: Well, I;'m in between.
2005.09.02 [03:21] acidstars: and people were different then
2005.09.02 [03:21] inter541: hi all
2005.09.02 [03:21] Babylonian: BeanFriedPork:  that's where you don't want to be
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2005.09.02 [03:21] dx2: BeanFriedPork: yeah, cuz you'd be quite radiated/burned
2005.09.02 [03:21] Alias_: fiish: Yes, but here (unlike the US) we don't have vast quantities of hand guns all over the place
2005.09.02 [03:21] DiveFox: Frungy: Hawt!
2005.09.02 [03:21] arden: Bigft420: you get used to the idocy
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2005.09.02 [03:21] Frungy: Fuck that newspaper, seriously
2005.09.02 [03:21] DiveFox: Frungy: I'm about to give up on the Aegis
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2005.09.02 [03:21] Alias_: fiish: Half the problem with NO sounds like it's because everyone has guns
2005.09.02 [03:21] ltc: fiish: americans are also fucked up individuals.  i love americans, but we are fucked up individuals
2005.09.02 [03:21] starla: why, again, are we talking about nuclear bombs?
2005.09.02 [03:21] arden: lol
2005.09.02 [03:21] DiveFox: staria: wiping out furries
2005.09.02 [03:21] majik: Being the guy whos half alive would suck :(
2005.09.02 [03:21] fiish: Sorry to hear that.
2005.09.02 [03:21] dx2: starla: solution to the NO problem
2005.09.02 [03:21] ltc: because all disasters are the same, of course!
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2005.09.02 [03:22] dx2: ;)
2005.09.02 [03:22] Frungy: They bitch about gas prices without a fucking mention of the hurricane!
2005.09.02 [03:22] BeanFriedPork: I wouldn't be burned if I was indoors at this range. Flying debris might be a problem, but probably just the windows would blow out. I've done my homework on this.
2005.09.02 [03:22] starla: nuke it?
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2005.09.02 [03:22] ben: Alias_: If only the unreasonable folks had guns, it would be even worse.
2005.09.02 [03:22] DiveFox: fiish: I feel safer with having my gun
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2005.09.02 [03:22] Babylonian: starla:  I have a bad feeling that America is on the ropes :(
2005.09.02 [03:22] Alias_: ben: Good think the unreasonable people here don't have them either
2005.09.02 [03:22] ben: DiveFox: So feel the lunatics who are shooting at feds
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2005.09.02 [03:22] fiish: Divefox: In a situation like that I would do.
2005.09.02 [03:22] ltc: Babylonian: I'm beginning to agree
2005.09.02 [03:22] Alias_: thing
2005.09.02 [03:22] arden: whatever babylonian
2005.09.02 [03:22] starla: What do you mean "on the ropes" baby, I am unfamiliar with that term
2005.09.02 [03:23] dx2: starla: hahaha yes and blame it on terrists... So you can keep fighting the righteous war on terrists
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2005.09.02 [03:23] BeanFriedPork: Radioactive fallout would largely depend on which way the wind blows afterwards....
2005.09.02 [03:23] ltc: I can't remember the last time I heard GOOD news
2005.09.02 [03:23] starla: dx2- not american I take it
2005.09.02 [03:23] Babylonian: ltc:  anyone could take us out, even Chavez
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2005.09.02 [03:23] arden: we have been in much worse situations
2005.09.02 [03:23] majik: Bean: But would you be puking and slowly dying from poisoning?
2005.09.02 [03:23] Etcetera: i think we'll survive... but certain segments of society are going to need to take a long, hard look at themselves
2005.09.02 [03:23] dx2: starla: haha
2005.09.02 [03:23] DiveFox: fiish: If I was down there, I'd be shooting at the loonies who were shooting at the feds
2005.09.02 [03:23] wankle: on the ropes == in big trouble
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2005.09.02 [03:23] SAtunses: strange fruit hangin..
2005.09.02 [03:23] Babylonian: arden:  like what
2005.09.02 [03:24] tamas: Well, ltc, the good news is that the flooding stopped.
2005.09.02 [03:24] arden: nah
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2005.09.02 [03:24] bennyfactor: Babylonian: With what, his mighty F-4 fleet?
2005.09.02 [03:24] arden: World war 2
2005.09.02 [03:24] Comic-San: I wouldn't want a gun until I'm sure I could keep someone from taking it from me
2005.09.02 [03:24] Loki39a: thought it had simply reached equilibrium...
2005.09.02 [03:24] tamas: Because the ocean flodded all the way in until the city was filled to sea level. :(
2005.09.02 [03:24] starla: i think i would pay to not be american at this point ;)
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2005.09.02 [03:24] arden: cival war
2005.09.02 [03:24] Babylonian: bennyfactor:  no by selling "our" oil to China
2005.09.02 [03:24] Frungy: why is -scanner3 +s
2005.09.02 [03:24] KBR-BEN: The feds need to just take out anyone shooting... they are endangering the rescue effort for everyone... rules of engagement need to be brought into force
2005.09.02 [03:24] wankle: we haven't been in a worse situation *domesticly* since WWII, I would say
2005.09.02 [03:25] bennyfactor: Ohohohohoho
2005.09.02 [03:25] goofey: (cnn.com) The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency said Thursday those New Orleans r\
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2005.09.02 [03:25] goofey: esidents who chose not to heed warnings to evacuate before Hurricane Katrina bear some responsibili\
2005.09.02 [03:25] goofey: ty for their fates. (fucktard never heard of people who don't have cars or money - the state provid\
2005.09.02 [03:25] Babylonian: bennyfactor:  Venezuela provides something like 18% of the US's oil
2005.09.02 [03:25] Jerub: Babylonian: hah, the american military would squash anything right now. mostly becuase they're *not* helping new orleans.
2005.09.02 [03:25] goofey: ed *no* transportation out of the city prior to the hurricane
2005.09.02 [03:25] tamas: Oh, and they have a plan. That changes rapidly.
2005.09.02 [03:25] dx2: starla: bah, being american's cool
2005.09.02 [03:25] bennyfactor: Yeah it does
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2005.09.02 [03:25] bennyfactor: Citgo vavy
2005.09.02 [03:25] Babylonian: Jerub:  the military is in Iraq
2005.09.02 [03:25] starla: Baby- Sorry I might have missed it butI asked you what "on the ropes" meant
2005.09.02 [03:25] Babylonian: we're overstretched
2005.09.02 [03:25] yume_no_hikari: goofey: feet.
2005.09.02 [03:25] Cellulaer: Babylonian: 8% was what I read not 18%
2005.09.02 [03:25] tamas: Smoenoe elese can take up the theoretical question of whether a plan that changes rapidly is actually a plan.
2005.09.02 [03:25] fiish: I've only seen reports from Fox/CNN so maybe other have seen things from more sources. Are they any serious plans to rebuild the city or are the water basically the new coastline now?
2005.09.02 [03:26] asd127: The primary AF special ops units are based an hour away from New Orleans, the National Guard Commander said he wants no help from the army unless its proved they can't handle the job
2005.09.02 [03:26] Alias_: KBR-BEN, ok... hence the shoot to kill rules now. So you get shot at in the dark, who do you return fire at?
2005.09.02 [03:26] Jerub: Babylonian: and in bases all accross your lovely country, and dozens of other countries.
2005.09.02 [03:26] goofey: yume_no_hikari: there was not time
2005.09.02 [03:26] asd127: So if youre wondering about lack of response...
2005.09.02 [03:26] Frungy: Does anyone have a clip of the Paula Zahn interview with the FEMA director yet??
2005.09.02 [03:26] DiveFox: The military is not all in Iraq, I saw some chica in US Army fatigues in Target today
2005.09.02 [03:26] KBR-BEN: Any smart soul would not venture out at night...
2005.09.02 [03:26] furiousxgeorge: fiish, they are not worrying about rebuilding plans right now
2005.09.02 [03:26] dx2: Alias_: it strangely reminds me of Iraq's looting
2005.09.02 [03:26] wankle: Venez. is part of OPEC, so the exact % probably changes all the time
2005.09.02 [03:26] fiish: ie. Do residents from elsewhere have a financial responsibility to subsidise those who choose to live below sea level?
2005.09.02 [03:27] Babylonian: starla:  yes I missed it. . sorry .. I mean I don't think America can take another big anything.. if anyone cuts off oil to us, we're financially screwed.  if we got another big terror attack, things could collapse..
2005.09.02 [03:27] goofey: yume_no_hikari: anyone who tries to out-walka hurricane is dead
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2005.09.02 [03:27] Loki39a: looting rules "shoot to kill" have been around a long long time...
2005.09.02 [03:27] fiish: That was one view point Ive heard anyway
2005.09.02 [03:27] Etcetera: tamas: no plan in any large event survives the first few minutes
2005.09.02 [03:27] Alias_: KBR-BEN, so shoot anyone in the dark?
2005.09.02 [03:27] briareus: NOLA, BEFORE AND AFTER, SATELLITE IMAGERY: (Link: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=17018)http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=17018
2005.09.02 [03:27] BeanFriedPork: Maybe if FEMA actually was set up to, oh, help evacuate the people who needed it, and went around offering people rides out, he might have the slightest point. But this isn't the fucking time to say that anyway.
2005.09.02 [03:27] jconway963: you almost gotta be a fighter jock on crack to keep up and read all this
2005.09.02 [03:27] starla: oh I see I understand thank you andI agree
2005.09.02 [03:27] ltc: fiish, it ain't always a choice.  i'm not sure where the low-income housing was
2005.09.02 [03:27] DiveFox: If things collapse, I'm taking over
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2005.09.02 [03:28] KBR-BEN: No, don't be trying to rescue anyone in the dark
2005.09.02 [03:28] acidstars: i bet i could out hop, skip and a jump away
2005.09.02 [03:28] yume_no_hikari: goofey: depends which direction and how willing you are to hitch.
2005.09.02 [03:28] dx2: fiish: Do people against the war have the choice to subsidize or not a war?
2005.09.02 [03:28] tamas: The U.S. has no danger in terms of oil supplies.
2005.09.02 [03:28] FCYTravis: Could someone link the Astrodome feed again? Thanks.
2005.09.02 [03:28] Loki39a: that it's taken so long to implement them  this time around....is a tragedy....
2005.09.02 [03:28] tamas: It will just take what it needs.
2005.09.02 [03:28] jconway963: (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/
2005.09.02 [03:28] starla: (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/
2005.09.02 [03:28] FCYTravis: thanks
2005.09.02 [03:28] DiveFox: It's a comedy!
2005.09.02 [03:28] Loki39a: and is likely to dramatically extend the time it takes to rebuild
2005.09.02 [03:28] majik: Why do the radio logs say you dong have permissin to view
2005.09.02 [03:28] majik: dont
2005.09.02 [03:28] DiveFox: It's a gold mine of comedy!
2005.09.02 [03:29] fiish: I dont know. It was just something in the paper here that was discussing ong term plans.
2005.09.02 [03:29] Babylonian: starla:  so I'm really afraid because Bush seems to have made everyone angry at us and now we're teetering on the edge of a cliff and the world is kind of holding its breath and watching
2005.09.02 [03:29] coyotej: US oil issue is refineries, not crude supply.
2005.09.02 [03:29] acidstars: is that an audio feed?
2005.09.02 [03:29] majik: yes acid, from the astrodome
2005.09.02 [03:29] ltc: yes
2005.09.02 [03:29] Jerub: Babylonian: and offering aid that is mostly being rejected :)
2005.09.02 [03:29] starla: the world is like " if they can dish it out they need to TAKe it"
2005.09.02 [03:29] dx2: Babylonian: yeh, not pushing the U.S., but not helping them either
2005.09.02 [03:29] Wohali: Astrodome feed being transcribed in -scanner3
2005.09.02 [03:29] goofey: coyotej: and transportation too
2005.09.02 [03:30] Babylonian: Jerub:  that too
2005.09.02 [03:30] ben: Babylonian: Being a foreigner, I totally do not care what Bush has done and would love to be able to help.
2005.09.02 [03:30] Wohali: bbiab
2005.09.02 [03:30] DiveFox: Someone should make a website and call it the Comedy Gold Mine
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2005.09.02 [03:30] {dm}: Lots of problems with domestic oil production will arise from several super rigs being gone off the coast.  Mars for example.
2005.09.02 [03:30] bennyfactor: Yeah, we have about half the refineries in the US as there were in th 80s
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2005.09.02 [03:30] Babylonian: dx2:  right
2005.09.02 [03:30] Frungy: (Link: www.somethingawful.com)www.somethingawful.com ?
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2005.09.02 [03:30] DiveFox: Frungy: Oh!
2005.09.02 [03:30] ben: So how many goons are here... ?
2005.09.02 [03:30] acidstars: ah thanks. and my apologies if that was the dumbest question asked in recent history
2005.09.02 [03:30] wankle: fyad.com?
2005.09.02 [03:30] BeanFriedPork: We actually produce a fair amount of our own oil, even though we only have 3% of the World's reserves, and consume nearly 25% of the World's oil. The thing is, America actually produces as much oil as Saudia Arabia almost (which has about 30% of the World's oil reserves), but they do it with about 250 pumps, and we do it with about 8000 pumps, so they do it a shitload more efficiently because they have so much more
2005.09.02 [03:30] majik: hi ben
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2005.09.02 [03:30] wankle: ben: quite a few, it would seem
2005.09.02 [03:30] fiish: Has anyone here been making a concious effort to stock up on fuel?
2005.09.02 [03:30] Jerub: Frungy: it's down. directnic only has 1 oc3 running, and SA saturates a OC3 by itself.
2005.09.02 [03:30] SimonRaven: hi
2005.09.02 [03:30] snarky|away: goons? goony goon goon.
2005.09.02 [03:30] briareus: (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/  is JUST NOISE RIGHT NOW
2005.09.02 [03:30] frostbotond: <--goon
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2005.09.02 [03:31] TexasEMT: Ben: I'm an Emergency Medical Technician that's 300 miles from New Orleans and I can't even find anyone willing to take my assistance
2005.09.02 [03:31] dx2: {dm}: yeh, same as refining capacity... it's in trouble.  EPA has relaxed refiners regulations to help them produce more oil faster
2005.09.02 [03:31] buddylazier: <- goon
2005.09.02 [03:31] briareus: oh ok
2005.09.02 [03:31] Loki39a: the Russians and the former eastern bloc have some really good airlift resources that'd be useful about now...
2005.09.02 [03:31] Alias_: SA?
2005.09.02 [03:31] DiveFox: <- goon
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2005.09.02 [03:31] Babylonian: Loki39a:  Russia offered their helicopters but we refused them!
2005.09.02 [03:31] ltc: TexasEMT: have you considered going to New Orleans?
2005.09.02 [03:31] TexasEMT: <- goon
2005.09.02 [03:31] Donkley: somethingisawful?
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2005.09.02 [03:31] _mrinvisible_: <- goon
2005.09.02 [03:31] wankle: <- goon
2005.09.02 [03:31] Loki39a: god, what idiocy
2005.09.02 [03:31] starla: I know that In South Carolina where I am from people are going nuts over gas and there are lines down main streets waiting for it at the pump. its at about 3.08
2005.09.02 [03:31] londarr: there are plenty of people here with stairs in their houses i bet
2005.09.02 [03:31] BeanFriedPork: Russia has a fair amount of oil. We could use that if they offered it.
2005.09.02 [03:31] dx2: Babylonian: It's a pride thing
2005.09.02 [03:32] starla: last I checked
2005.09.02 [03:32] acidstars: i'd stock up if i drove.
2005.09.02 [03:32] ltc: Just curious
2005.09.02 [03:32] asd127: fiish: Tank can only hold so much, gas prices already way out of range to consider filling up... dont know what I am going to do when the tank runs dry
2005.09.02 [03:32] tamas: This refusing of foreign aid seems really silly to me.
2005.09.02 [03:32] ben: <- goon, duh
2005.09.02 [03:32] Babylonian: dx2:  people are dying over someone's pride then
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2005.09.02 [03:32] tamas: Hell, take anything we can get.
2005.09.02 [03:32] solcita: TexasEMT: the information I'm getting is saying contact your local EOC or OES office.
2005.09.02 [03:32] Loki39a: the MI26's alone would be a HUGE (forgive the pun) help...
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2005.09.02 [03:33] tamas: Plus, it's good diplomacy.
2005.09.02 [03:33] fiish: US$3.08 is a bargin.
2005.09.02 [03:33] ewok: tex, I saw a guy on local LA news who called for 30 hours before making contact, he was diver/firefighter
2005.09.02 [03:33] wankle: asd: fill up now, it's only going to go up
2005.09.02 [03:33] Babylonian: those big ass russian helicopters would kick ass for rebuilding the levees
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2005.09.02 [03:33] Pilgrim: whats a levee?
2005.09.02 [03:33] DiveFox: fiish: That's what I tell everyone at work, it's like $8 a gallon in the US
2005.09.02 [03:33] ltc: everyone ought to just stop driving for a while!
2005.09.02 [03:33] Loki39a: and moving semi-loads of food
2005.09.02 [03:33] majik: Anyone know where the forklift is [Forklift Fighters]
2005.09.02 [03:33] erulehto: Babylonian: you have news link?
2005.09.02 [03:33] londarr: gas is about 3.00 here in FLA
2005.09.02 [03:34] Jerub: Pilgrim: big wall to keep out water.
2005.09.02 [03:34] DiveFox: Pilgrim: A Jersey Barrier on a lake
2005.09.02 [03:34] {dm}: 2.xx in houston
2005.09.02 [03:34] Loki39a: Pilgrim, a levee is a big dirt or concrete dam
2005.09.02 [03:34] dx2: Babylonian: Same for planes to extinguish forest fires.  U.S. Refused russian planes, but took canadian planes
2005.09.02 [03:34] fiish: We use litres not gallons but in US rates we've been paying $4/gallon for the last 6 months. This will probably drive it further
2005.09.02 [03:34] BeanFriedPork: At any rate, I believe Bush has tapped into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, a move I agree with actually. The Strategic Petroleum Reserve is a stockpile we've been building that theoretically is enough to run the whole country for 90 days. Releasing a little of that should lower oil prices.
2005.09.02 [03:34] Jerub: I can't wait for cuba to offer doctors.
2005.09.02 [03:34] {dm}: Wow, people are near relient..
2005.09.02 [03:34] Jerub: :)
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2005.09.02 [03:34] asd127: If people stopped buying gas prices would be forced to go down, but rolling blackouts will happen before that ever does
2005.09.02 [03:34] Loki39a: the AN124 would be an itty-bit helpful, too
2005.09.02 [03:34] Babylonian: erulehto:  for what
2005.09.02 [03:34] DiveFox: majik: I have a hyster 30 ready for looting
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2005.09.02 [03:34] Pilgrim: ahh, like a dike (im from canada..thats what we call them)
2005.09.02 [03:34] dx2: BeanFriedPork: temporarily
2005.09.02 [03:35] starla: poor woman
2005.09.02 [03:35] tamas: dm, how far is Reliant from the Astrodome?
2005.09.02 [03:35] ltc: fiish, i'd also venture that your vehicles are more efficient than ours
2005.09.02 [03:35] erulehto: refusing of foreign aid
2005.09.02 [03:35] BeanFriedPork: Yes, temporarily.
2005.09.02 [03:35] Loki39a: yes, like a dike
2005.09.02 [03:35] fiish: Divefox are you in Aus too?
2005.09.02 [03:35] jconway963: regular unleaded = arm ... mid grade = leg ... surprieme = first born son
2005.09.02 [03:35] briareus: ANY MORE of those radio links from elsewhere?
2005.09.02 [03:35] acidstars: i thought dikes were made of wood. or something.
2005.09.02 [03:35] ltc: which is just a tragedy, frankly
2005.09.02 [03:35] DiveFox: fiish: No, I'm about 50 miles from DC
2005.09.02 [03:35] Loki39a: when things are this fucked up, we need to take what help we can get..
2005.09.02 [03:35] dx2: BeanFriedPork: one of the problems is that the strategic reserve = crude oil.  Needs to be refined, but the bottleneck is at refining right now
2005.09.02 [03:35] Sollord: the wall on one of the canals the broke looked ot eb nothing more then a typical cement wall you see around apartment complexes
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2005.09.02 [03:35] Pilgrim: yeah..sand and stuff
2005.09.02 [03:35] Cellulaer: what I don't get is why they needed only buses to get people out.. there was a photo of an 18 wheeler truck with it's plastic sides rolled up hauling people out
2005.09.02 [03:36] yume_no_hikari: jconway963: I'm having /usr/bin/w00t flashbacks
2005.09.02 [03:36] Pilgrim: i dont know >.<
2005.09.02 [03:36] {dm}: Not sure to be honest.
2005.09.02 [03:36] dx2: brian: topic
2005.09.02 [03:36] ltc: loki39a, i disagree
2005.09.02 [03:36] DiveFox: acidstars: I thought dikes were women
2005.09.02 [03:36] Babylonian: erulehto:  it was on CNN today.. Canada offered help, Russia, and a dozen other countries and also the UN ..  but we haven't been getting back to them
2005.09.02 [03:36] Pilgrim: hah
2005.09.02 [03:36] jconway963: lol
2005.09.02 [03:36] {dm}: Wow, buses are running out of gas at the A.Dome.
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2005.09.02 [03:36] BeanFriedPork: Hopefully Saudi Arabia can help us out a bit, considering Bush is practically a family member of the Saudi Royal Family.
2005.09.02 [03:36] Pilgrim: goin to bed, night
2005.09.02 [03:36] starla: yeah
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2005.09.02 [03:36] acidstars: no, DiveFox, those are dykes :P
2005.09.02 [03:36] fiish: No our vehicles about the same. We also typically drive further because Australia is pretty spread out - at least as far as shipping food around goes anyway.
2005.09.02 [03:36] dx2: BeanFriedPork: haha
2005.09.02 [03:36] Loki39a: why so?
2005.09.02 [03:36] Bigft420: wot are all the scanner's info... i wanna listen
2005.09.02 [03:37] erulehto: Babylonian: thanks; haven't watch any V until just now
2005.09.02 [03:37] starla: (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/
2005.09.02 [03:37] snarky|away: The Astrodome is full, they're turning people away and sending them to San Antonio now.
2005.09.02 [03:37] jv: BeanFriedPork: don't forget the problem lies in refineries, not crude oil per-se
2005.09.02 [03:37] ltc: fiish: interesting.  not what i expected
2005.09.02 [03:37] londarr: well, seeing that we dont have the logistical skills to mobilize our own resources, any outside help seems like it would just complicate things
2005.09.02 [03:37] Sollord: What will the saudis do exactly?
2005.09.02 [03:37] mRNA: bush said today that he didnt want outside help...that he wanted the US to handle it themselves
2005.09.02 [03:37] asd127: I heard a report of Canadian help being turned away at the border near Niagra Falls and some diplomatic walk-out going on by border patrol agents up there
2005.09.02 [03:37] tamas: It sounds like a lot of people are needing insulin and diabetes care.
2005.09.02 [03:37] majik: Already full?
2005.09.02 [03:37] rick-orlando: (Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Radio_Info)http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Radio_Info
2005.09.02 [03:37] DiveFox: I'm going to go watch the Simpsons
2005.09.02 [03:37] furiousxgeorge: bean: the problem is NO is one of the few ports that can take the huge tankers with saudi oil
2005.09.02 [03:38] Babylonian: erulehto:  check out some of those videos on (Link: www.crooksandliars.com)www.crooksandliars.com
2005.09.02 [03:38] ben: What exactly is the kind of help another country can offer? Oil? Money?
2005.09.02 [03:38] dx2: londarr: good point
2005.09.02 [03:38] BeanFriedPork: It'd be funnier if it weren't so true :/
2005.09.02 [03:38] Sollord: Give us more oil we cant refine maybe?
2005.09.02 [03:38] snarky|away: According to CNN
2005.09.02 [03:38] Bigft420:  (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/
2005.09.02 [03:38] Bigft420: <snarky|a
2005.09.02 [03:38] tamas: Which ir ironic - isn't there a high prevelance of diabetes in New Orlenas.
2005.09.02 [03:38] Bigft420: sry
2005.09.02 [03:38] Loki39a: the AN124 would be a good pairing with the MI26 to move food/supplies long distances w/ the MI26's doing last-leg transport
2005.09.02 [03:38] snarky|away: np
2005.09.02 [03:38] Babylonian: ben:  food, water, doctors, equipment
2005.09.02 [03:38] Alias_: ben: Emerrgency management teams
2005.09.02 [03:38] ltc: we have enough oil
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2005.09.02 [03:38] BeanFriedPork: Canada offered to send in half their military actually....
2005.09.02 [03:38] acidstars: at least they delivered some things to the conference center, although poorly.
2005.09.02 [03:38] KBR-BEN: Houston is out of room? I know we have more room here then just the Astrodome... what about George R. Brown? What about Reliant Arena? What about all the other locations we have?
2005.09.02 [03:38] Bigft420:  (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/ i have this scanner are there any others
2005.09.02 [03:39] Loki39a: damn...
2005.09.02 [03:39] Loki39a: we could surely use the help
2005.09.02 [03:39] Etcetera: we haven't built a new refinery in the US since the early 80's
2005.09.02 [03:39] Alias_: KBR-BEN, reliant arena has people there
2005.09.02 [03:39] majik: Bigft: thats astrodome
2005.09.02 [03:39] Babylonian: ltc:  actually we have big gas problems
2005.09.02 [03:39] Etcetera: that might be part of the problem...
2005.09.02 [03:39] dx2: Etcetera: blame the oil companies
2005.09.02 [03:39] snarky|away: NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Officials at the Astrodome in Houston, Texas, saying the facility has reached capacity, have stopped accepting refugees from flooded New Orleans.
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2005.09.02 [03:40] dx2: Etcetera: same as building nuclear power plants
2005.09.02 [03:40] dx2: none since the 80s
2005.09.02 [03:40] Sollord: The problem is we lack refineries because of enviro nutjobs and not in my back yard morons
2005.09.02 [03:40] snarky|away: Exhausted evacuees who had traveled more than 300 miles on buses to be housed at the Astrodome were turned away late Thursday and diverted elsewhere.
2005.09.02 [03:40] tamas: KBR-BEN, practically speaking, Houston may not want to become Refugee Central.
2005.09.02 [03:40] Babylonian: Bush said there may be interruptions in the gas supply
2005.09.02 [03:40] fiish: Did anyone else see Bill O'Reilly on FOX before? He was suggesting to people to not buy fuel on Sundays between now & Christmas so that the oil companies reduce their profit margins. He was also asking people to use less powering because America using 25% of the world's oil supply is just not on anymore - in light of recent events.
2005.09.02 [03:40] majik: Bigft:(Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Main_Page#Audio_Streams)http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Main_Page#Audio_Streams
2005.09.02 [03:40] furiousxgeorge: don't let the canadians send their army, it's obviously a trick, they want to attack while we are weak
2005.09.02 [03:40] dx2: Sollord: that's the american way of life!
2005.09.02 [03:40] solcita: 'diverted elsewhere' is different from 'turned away'
2005.09.02 [03:40] Etcetera: dx2: really? I would presum,e the problem is environmental groups, and NIMBYism
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2005.09.02 [03:41] Loki39a: as nothing much short of massive military intervention on the scale of Sherman's March Thru Georgia is likely to slow the looters now...
2005.09.02 [03:41] Frungy: There's no way in hell I'd want to live near a refinery
2005.09.02 [03:41] SimonRaven: snarky|away: 5000 of 20 000...
2005.09.02 [03:41] mesh: i heard scanner talk about arresting someone for a class a, any idea what they mean?
2005.09.02 [03:41] solcita: It just means they were sent to a different facility.
2005.09.02 [03:41] ltc: Babylonian: explain.  i see the problem as opportunistic oil moguls.  not supply.  we have the big reserve.  but the refineries...
2005.09.02 [03:41] tamas: Once there, you mgiht not be able to get rid of them for a good long time.
2005.09.02 [03:41] dx2: Etcetera: word
2005.09.02 [03:41] Etcetera: even some greenpeace folks are now rethinking nuclear energy
2005.09.02 [03:41] Babylonian: ltc:  the reserve isn't so big
2005.09.02 [03:41] Cellulaer: the astrodome wouldn't even take the first bus that showed up (full of kids) because it wasn't an official bus
2005.09.02 [03:41] Loki39a: Class A Felony prolly
2005.09.02 [03:42] dx2: fiish: Oreilly is an idiot
2005.09.02 [03:42] WillySilly: Frungy: i live near a refinery
2005.09.02 [03:42] bennyfactor: Frungy: I did until they closed it down
2005.09.02 [03:42] Babylonian: ltc:   besides the reserves still need to be refined
2005.09.02 [03:42] WillySilly: its a mile away
2005.09.02 [03:42] {dm}: Mesh, Class A Mistormeaner..
2005.09.02 [03:42] solcita: Cellulaer: there has to be SOME kind of order to it.
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2005.09.02 [03:42] wankle: reserves don't mean shit when your daily consumption is higher than daily production
2005.09.02 [03:42] starkravingblah: most likely misdemeanor
2005.09.02 [03:42] bennyfactor: It's not that bad, man, it's actually kind of cool
2005.09.02 [03:42] starla: Cellulaer- you are fucking kidding right
2005.09.02 [03:43] dx2: fiish: he doesn't have a clue of how the economy works
2005.09.02 [03:43] acidstars: no, the astrodome DID take the first bus that did show up, even though it wasnt official
2005.09.02 [03:43] tamas: I think that is why Texas is trying to put numbers and caps on the number of refungees.
2005.09.02 [03:43] acidstars: the people on that bus were allowed to stay
2005.09.02 [03:43] mesh: thnaks
2005.09.02 [03:43] Alias_: Loki39a, yeah... we haven't seen a single tank or APC yet...
2005.09.02 [03:43] bennyfactor: The panhandle eastern pipeline still comes out here
2005.09.02 [03:43] Alias_: amazing
2005.09.02 [03:43] SimonRaven: Peak Oil
2005.09.02 [03:43] wankle: the world uses more oil than it pumps every day, and it's getting harder and harder to increase output
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2005.09.02 [03:44] Sollord: Etcetera: Yeah the non-hard core members of breenpeace but there not in control
2005.09.02 [03:44] TexasEMT: ltc: I've considered briefly trying to go into New Orleans on my own, but it's pointless because A: It's almost impossible, and very dangerous, to try to get in. B: Once in, I have no way of receiving or responding to any emergencies. C: I'm only as good as my supplies, so without any medical supplies or being attached to an emergency department or EMS company I'm essentially powerless
2005.09.02 [03:44] ltc: Babylonian: 700 million barrels!  That's enough to keep us at capacity for a while.  i think we lost 2 million barrels per day as a result of katrina
2005.09.02 [03:44] Cellulaer: no.. the head red cross lady finally went out and let them in
2005.09.02 [03:44] fiish: Yeh I agree. From what I know he is pro-Republican so it was a bit of suprise t hear that coming from him.
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2005.09.02 [03:44] tamas: There has to be some control or it will get overhwlemed.
2005.09.02 [03:44] Alias_: A couple of APCs would clear the looters off the streets :)
2005.09.02 [03:44] bennyfactor: And there's like 1 billion cubic feet of storage tanks, which are amazing
2005.09.02 [03:44] dx2: SimonRaven: True, Peak oil is what is hitting us right now
2005.09.02 [03:44] Frungy: There's a shitload of smelly and toxic chemicals floating around near refineries
2005.09.02 [03:45] Loki39a: tanks'd be silly
2005.09.02 [03:45] {dm}: The reason to limit the people into the dome is long term care can be managed better with lower numbers.
2005.09.02 [03:45] ltc: TexasEMT: I understand
2005.09.02 [03:45] briareus: ltc: yeah about 1.7M/day
2005.09.02 [03:45] BeanFriedPork: The vast majority of electrical power for houses and other buildings is provided by coal, natural gas, hydroelectric, and nuclear power, not oil.
2005.09.02 [03:45] dx2: SimonRaven: but not a lot of people know that
2005.09.02 [03:45] Loki39a: the damn things would sink up to their turrets
2005.09.02 [03:45] wankle: we can increase production, but it's expensive and difficult
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2005.09.02 [03:45] Alias_: Loki39a, sure... the M1s would just sink
2005.09.02 [03:45] Alias_: But some APCs would be useful
2005.09.02 [03:45] wankle: so the oil companies aren't really excited about having to do that
2005.09.02 [03:45] dx2: Alias_: APCs don't work well with 10 feet of water :-/
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2005.09.02 [03:45] firew: http://
2005.09.02 [03:45] Loki39a: but some good amphib gear would be a nice thing
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2005.09.02 [03:46] ltc: braireus: so that's what we have the reserve for!  exactly this kind of emergency.  we can cover it.  it's just a matter of refining it.
2005.09.02 [03:46] Alias_: dx2: I get the marines dissagree :)
2005.09.02 [03:46] BeanFriedPork: Not buying gas on Sunday won't do shit if we still use our cars just as much.
2005.09.02 [03:46] Alias_: bet
2005.09.02 [03:46] SimonRaven: dx2: they're keeping it quiet. that's all i'm saying so as to not get /kb ;)
2005.09.02 [03:46] dx2: Alias_: True
2005.09.02 [03:46] Sollord: The state and city droped the ball totaly leaving the feds looking even stupider and ill prepaired
2005.09.02 [03:46] Loki39a: preferably with some serious idiot repellents attached...
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2005.09.02 [03:46] dx2: Alias_: the marines's vehicles are neat
2005.09.02 [03:47] {dm}: Wow, reliant is taking people .. talking about setting up triage
2005.09.02 [03:47] ltc: BeanFriedPork: so let's stop driving for a week!
2005.09.02 [03:47] solcita: The 'gas boycott' isn't going to do anything at all.
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2005.09.02 [03:47] TexasEMT: Briareus: Is this the briareus from TCC?
2005.09.02 [03:47] asd127: The only thing I don't get about the "dome" situation is that there are large gymnasiums and stadiums throughout the area, why are they using 1 central location its outlandish
2005.09.02 [03:47] Alias_: That said, I imagine most of the marine's vehicles are in Iraq
2005.09.02 [03:47] jconway963: lets ban suv´s .... make the roads safer and save engery :)
2005.09.02 [03:47] majik: What is a triage
2005.09.02 [03:47] BeanFriedPork: ....maybe
2005.09.02 [03:47] starla: what is "reliant?"
2005.09.02 [03:48] dx2: SimonRaven: hahahaha
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2005.09.02 [03:48] Babylonian: Alias_:  they are
2005.09.02 [03:48] tamas: dm, I'm talking about the community as a whole.  Any given community can only take on so many refugees before it puts itself in danger of drastically lowering the community's quality of life.
2005.09.02 [03:48] {dm}: Reliant Stadium.
2005.09.02 [03:48] solcita: ltc: If you can o that, be my guest. I can't. No buses go anywhere near my workplace.
2005.09.02 [03:48] starla: thanks dm
2005.09.02 [03:48] Sheen5150: majik: triage is deciding priority based on severity of injury
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2005.09.02 [03:49] {dm}: New football stadium ... now used instead of Astrodome.
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2005.09.02 [03:49] briareus: TexasEMT: i dont know any TCC briareus
2005.09.02 [03:49] solcita: However, I *can* (and do) drive a Prius, and I get 50mpg.
2005.09.02 [03:49] fiish: ltc: The US Federal Oil Reserves are unprocessed. Without the refineries (which are offline due to lack of power) the oil reserves are useless. At least that's what Ive heard on TV the last couple of days
2005.09.02 [03:49] ltc: solcita: can you get to work any other way?  Bicycle?  Walking?
2005.09.02 [03:49] Loki39a: easier to ship food/water/supplies one place rather'n ten when you're facing transport issues
2005.09.02 [03:49] dx2: fiish: true
2005.09.02 [03:49] TexasEMT: asd127: Coordinating security and medical operations are easier through a central location, especially when communications are nonexistant
2005.09.02 [03:49] Babylonian: fiish:  exactly
2005.09.02 [03:49] ltc: fiish: i know
2005.09.02 [03:49] solcita: Not with the hours I work, not safely.
2005.09.02 [03:49] Alias_: majik: triage is a medical staging area where you work out who is savable. It throttles incoming numbers to match what the hostpital can handle
2005.09.02 [03:49] Sollord: They can bus them upto michigan we have an unused stadium :P
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2005.09.02 [03:50] dx2: fiish: The strategic reserves are crude oil
2005.09.02 [03:50] ltc: solcita: how far is it to work?
2005.09.02 [03:50] tamas: You don't want Houston turning into a squatter town, go tot spread the refuggess out a bit so no one community bears too much  of the burden alone.
2005.09.02 [03:50] BeanFriedPork: I could theoretically walk to work.
2005.09.02 [03:50] solcita: 10 miles, give or take.
2005.09.02 [03:50] {dm}: Wow, they are not even sure where they are moving triage too ..
2005.09.02 [03:50] starla: wtf are they laughing about
2005.09.02 [03:50] ltc: solcita: you can bike that
2005.09.02 [03:50] acidstars: they can bring 'em to new york. we love people.
2005.09.02 [03:50] {dm}: Triage is moving .. and Command post didn't know about ti.
2005.09.02 [03:50] solcita: Through a very bad part of town, and I leave work at 4am.  No thank you.
2005.09.02 [03:50] Alias_: triage nurses make the decisions over who is saving and who isn't
2005.09.02 [03:51] snarky|away: Sollord: Actually, Kwame Kilpatrick's already been talking to DHS about taking on refugees. :)
2005.09.02 [03:51] solcita: I'm not putting my life at risk. I'll drive my Prius.
2005.09.02 [03:51] majik: I've bike almost every where, best thing I've done
2005.09.02 [03:51] buddylazier: humans can't be serious all the time, even in tragedies
2005.09.02 [03:51] ltc: solcita: the right path is rarely the easy one
2005.09.02 [03:51] dx2: BeanFriedPork: If you can walk to work, your gas expenditure is probably minimal though
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2005.09.02 [03:51] briareus: starla: what addy you listeing to?
2005.09.02 [03:51] Sheen5150: join /#interdictor-tech
2005.09.02 [03:51] starla: true buddy
2005.09.02 [03:51] ltc: solcita: idealistic, i know
2005.09.02 [03:51] Sheen5150: doh!
2005.09.02 [03:52] starla: (Link: http://204.9.66.211:9900/)http://204.9.66.211:9900/
2005.09.02 [03:52] Babylonian: HAW HAW
2005.09.02 [03:52] Babylonian: :)
2005.09.02 [03:52] SimonRaven: i bike a lot. have for years. i love it
2005.09.02 [03:52] solcita: ltc: if you want to bike to my work, be my guest. I'll be the one dispatching the police to your body when you get shot in the street.
2005.09.02 [03:52] cestlaguerre: is kurtz asleep?
2005.09.02 [03:52] BeanFriedPork: I also need my car for grocery shopping, and other stuff like that.
2005.09.02 [03:52] Sollord: where the hell is kame the curoupt put refuges? The unused stadiums we have are not in detroit
2005.09.02 [03:52] fiish: My cousin in Austin, TX is getting married next week and her honeymoon was some log cabin resort in the South of Georgia. Does anyone know if Georgia has been hit too?
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2005.09.02 [03:52] Asmo-: hello everyone, I am the webmaster of IRC-Junkie.org (IRC news site), who can I talk to for some questions?
2005.09.02 [03:52] BeanFriedPork: But I mean, there's public transportation.
2005.09.02 [03:53] Babylonian: fiish:  I don't think so
2005.09.02 [03:53] dx2: fiish: go to (Link: www.fema.gov)www.fema.gov
2005.09.02 [03:53] n3ckf: georgia has a lack of gas right now
2005.09.02 [03:53] tamas: I bet these poor police officers didn't expect t be working the all night shift.
2005.09.02 [03:53] dx2: fiish: they'll tell you so
2005.09.02 [03:53] Loki39a: All things considered, I'm thinking seriously of caving in and buying a motorcycle to replace the car for most normal tasks...
2005.09.02 [03:53] wankle: solcita: are you LJ user solcita?
2005.09.02 [03:53] fiish: Thanks Babylonian & dx2
2005.09.02 [03:53] tamas: (at the Astrodome)
2005.09.02 [03:53] Dopefish`: new picture from new orleans, (Link: http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/153/etlabel0ts.jpg)http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/153/etlabel0ts.jpg
2005.09.02 [03:53] snarky|away: Sollord: Who knows? lol
2005.09.02 [03:53] ltc: Asmo-: nobody's in charge here
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2005.09.02 [03:53] solcita: wankle: yes.
2005.09.02 [03:53] Sollord: Also we have a super bowl this year no way in hell they'd want any people in detroit since there likely still be there
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2005.09.02 [03:53] cestlaguerre: kurtz must be sleeping
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2005.09.02 [03:53] buddylazier: Georgia doesn't not have a lack of gas at the moment
2005.09.02 [03:53] TexasEMT: If anyone knows of any federal, state, or local (Dallas, TX) requests for NREMT-B's and NREMT-P's please message me.
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2005.09.02 [03:54] {dm}: Tammas: Already went out over the radio earlier that they where working 18 hour shift today.
2005.09.02 [03:54] wankle: ah, I think I've seen you in the seattle community
2005.09.02 [03:54] Babylonian: Dopefish`:  uh that's MJ & ET
2005.09.02 [03:54] solcita: TexasEMT: do you know where your local EOC office is?
2005.09.02 [03:54] Asmo-: ltc: i was hoping to get in contact with the initiator or someone similar
2005.09.02 [03:54] dx2: buddylazier: oil prices are sky-high though... > 3$ a gallon
2005.09.02 [03:54] wankle: you know Julie too, it looks like (julesong)
2005.09.02 [03:55] solcita: wankle: occasionally, but not often. =) I try to avoid seattle comm whenever possible. =)
2005.09.02 [03:55] Sollord: Though since just about and low end and corrupt as NO is i guess they'd feel right at home if not colder
2005.09.02 [03:55] buddylazier: dx2: insane demand
2005.09.02 [03:55] {dm}: Texas: I am sure they will be needing them, at some point dallas might get spillover also.
2005.09.02 [03:55] Dopefish`: oops sorry wrong url
2005.09.02 [03:55] Asmo-: the channels says to message the ops, but i am not allowed to as i am not registerd
2005.09.02 [03:55] tamas: dm, ouch, 18 hour shifts
2005.09.02 [03:55] solcita: wankle: I do know Julie! She's a good friend.
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2005.09.02 [03:55] ltc: Asmo-: try (Link: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/)http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
2005.09.02 [03:55] buddylazier: panic = high prices
2005.09.02 [03:55] asd127: Asmo-: I believe the people running the blog are sleeping
2005.09.02 [03:55] Babylonian: Dopefish`:  hahaha
2005.09.02 [03:56] dx2: buddylazier: exactly, offer is not equal to demand in Georgia
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2005.09.02 [03:56] solcita: Asmo-: so register
2005.09.02 [03:56] fiish: Dopefish - wow
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2005.09.02 [03:56] TexasEMT: solcita: Sorry, not sure if my messages are getting through to you, I haven't used IRC in years
2005.09.02 [03:56] bennyfactor: Amso-: there's media contact information on (Link: http://www.li---)http://www.li--- ltc beat me to it
2005.09.02 [03:56] Frungy: Asmo-: type /nickserve register password
2005.09.02 [03:57] BeanFriedPork: Also, this seems like a good time to make biodiesel fuel popular. It's diesel fuel that works in any normal diesel engine, made from soybean oil, and it produces a quarter of the pollution, and even smells nicer. The price of it is also not that bad compared to regular diesel  oil anymore.
2005.09.02 [03:57] rick-orlando: Asmo-:  (Link: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/)http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/    But they're asleep...
2005.09.02 [03:57] Asmo-: ltc: was already typing an email to the email mentioned there. ok thanks :)
2005.09.02 [03:57] Babylonian: OMG ET is in New Orleans
2005.09.02 [03:57] {dm}: Diabetics are having problems in Astrodome.
2005.09.02 [03:57] briareus: that louisiana scanner is QUIET man that is so eerie
2005.09.02 [03:57] Asmo-: cheers Frungy
2005.09.02 [03:57] ltc: i've got the fastest fingers in the west!
2005.09.02 [03:57] starkravingblah: Dalls is supposed to be taking on refugees at Reunion Arena
2005.09.02 [03:57] buddylazier: dx2: yes, but that does not mean they are running out of gas, which was the implicationg
2005.09.02 [03:58] Loki39a: biodiesel is a good choice in any case...
2005.09.02 [03:58] buddylazier: implication
2005.09.02 [03:58] Frungy: err
2005.09.02 [03:58] solcita: TexasEMT: no, they're not
2005.09.02 [03:58] BeanFriedPork: Also, there are hybrid cars that use about half as much fuel and pollute half the amount too.
2005.09.02 [03:58] ltc: {dm}: one diabetic is having problems
2005.09.02 [03:58] Frungy: it's /nickserv register password
2005.09.02 [03:58] Frungy: sorry
2005.09.02 [03:58] dx2: BeanFriedPork: This could be a good idea.  The problem is that we are not 100 % sure that growing all the food, then proocessing it to make the biodiesel is efficient
2005.09.02 [03:58] CajunTechie: Hey everyone, anyone know of any datacenters in the N.O. area that are operational right now?
2005.09.02 [03:59] wankle: Julie's great, I sang with her for a season in SLGC
2005.09.02 [03:59] {dm}: Ltc: That is the 3rd one in 15 mins
2005.09.02 [03:59] Loki39a: but requires some support in terms of supplies that in turn must be transported somehow
2005.09.02 [03:59] Sollord: If we rebuild NO we need to build in hydrogen refuling stations!
2005.09.02 [03:59] Dopefish`: i mirrored the pics from in here but its actually interdictor and some other users pics that i am just hosting. (Link: http://files.omgz.info/katrina/)http://files.omgz.info/katrina/
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2005.09.02 [03:59] dx2: BeanFriedPork: i.e. You need fuel to grow beans
2005.09.02 [03:59] mesh: haha where the forklift
2005.09.02 [03:59] Cellulaer: (Link: http://tinyurl.com/cnwz5)http://tinyurl.com/cnwz5 <<< article of the first renegade (stolen) bus full of kids that arrived at the astrodome
2005.09.02 [03:59] asd127: i dont understand why these people arent being airlifted to major hospitals for treatment
2005.09.02 [04:00] * solcita <--- Hybrid Car Driver (<3 Prius)
2005.09.02 [04:00] majik: BeanFriedPork: But arn't they too expensive for the bonus you get out of them
2005.09.02 [04:00] ltc: {dm}: i was under the impression it was the same person.  but i'll believe you
2005.09.02 [04:00] tamas: I hope they have a lot of insulin in Houston.
2005.09.02 [04:00] BeanFriedPork: I hear the Prius is good.
2005.09.02 [04:00] Dopefish`: if you cant access the pics from the website they are there
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2005.09.02 [04:00] majik: Solicita: How much did you pay for it vs how much do you save on gas
2005.09.02 [04:00] Pelican_Jock: prius is awesome.
2005.09.02 [04:00] solcita: er... oops
2005.09.02 [04:01] Babylonian: Dopefish`:  you need to get some kind of PHP photo script or something
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2005.09.02 [04:01] {dm}: Ltc: Nah ... one was on road, one was with someone, one was in section2 20
2005.09.02 [04:01] jconway963: why can´t we set these folks up on golf corces also?
2005.09.02 [04:01] Loki39a: I am surprised at that as well....
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2005.09.02 [04:01] Frungy: My friend gets 50MPG in his prius
2005.09.02 [04:01] Sollord: Primus is good but usually people don't want to wait a year to get one -.-
2005.09.02 [04:01] michaelloftis: thanks solcita
2005.09.02 [04:01] ltc: {dm}: thanks
2005.09.02 [04:01] cestlaguerre: still relatively cheap in oregon
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2005.09.02 [04:01] solcita: sure.
2005.09.02 [04:01] dx2: Frungy: that's nice
2005.09.02 [04:01] Frungy: he saves a shitload of money
2005.09.02 [04:01] ltc: brb
2005.09.02 [04:02] doozer: 3/win 3
2005.09.02 [04:02] Loki39a: it'd make sense to medevac those in good enough shape out to the W Coast, actually
2005.09.02 [04:02] BeanFriedPork: I don't know enough about biodiesel fuel. I've heard it goes for about $77 a gallon, but you get slightly better mileage.
2005.09.02 [04:02] londarr: yeah i guess any open field can become a tent city
2005.09.02 [04:02] Dopefish`: Babylonian i dont have php and i dont know how to do it =(
2005.09.02 [04:02] wankle: $77/gallon? uhm, no
2005.09.02 [04:02] solcita: The Prius is awesome
2005.09.02 [04:02] Babylonian: :(
2005.09.02 [04:02] tamas: Hmm, I wonder what they need to ask off the scanner (for those listeninig to the Astrodome)?
2005.09.02 [04:03] Loki39a: lol...biodiesel cost depends on whether you make your own or buy
2005.09.02 [04:03] wankle: it's just slightly more than gas currently
2005.09.02 [04:03] UJoF: Biodeisel is about $3/gallon in OR
2005.09.02 [04:03] dx2: BeanFriedPork: 77$ a barrel you mean?
2005.09.02 [04:03] jt_34: For anyone interested, I've been blogging any URLs that have come across in the various channels for the last few hours. Some really interesteding stories: (Link: http://willrawls.blogspot.com)http://willrawls.blogspot.com
2005.09.02 [04:03] Loki39a: if you buy, it's abotu $3/ga
2005.09.02 [04:03] TexasEMT: solcita: I'm using /whisper or /msg "nick" - Anyways, I've contacted my local EOC office *and* the local Red Cross office and they both say that they currently have no requests or ability to get any medical personnel into New Orleans. Their response to me was one of disorganization - they're really not sure what to do with volunteers that have any medical certifications
2005.09.02 [04:03] solcita: majik: Not too expensive, plus we get a tax break.
2005.09.02 [04:03] asd127: so hes paying now what he would have 4 yrs ago with a ford at 50mpg
2005.09.02 [04:03] rick-orlando: Biodiesel is great, but it won't scale up to meet more than 20% of the diesel demand in the US...
2005.09.02 [04:03] solcita: TexasEMT: Hmm. That's not good.
2005.09.02 [04:03] Sollord: Biodiesel is cheap it just not possible to make enough to power the entire nation on
2005.09.02 [04:03] Loki39a: if you make your own <evil grin> think about .75/gallon
2005.09.02 [04:03] Alias_: ouch... bad time to be 9 months pregnant in NO
2005.09.02 [04:04] UJoF: And the West Coast is on a different gasoline 'grid' than the East
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2005.09.02 [04:04] dx2: rick-orlando: yeh, cuz you need to grow plants to make biodiesel...  we also need food
2005.09.02 [04:04] Pelican_Jock: texasEMT: i had the same problem...
2005.09.02 [04:04] BeanFriedPork: Yeah, I don't think you could make enough of the stuff to completely replace diesel. But I mean, it's a start.
2005.09.02 [04:04] {dm}: TexasEMT: Honestly .. you are best to stay in dallas and help when refugees get there .. It will be needed
2005.09.02 [04:04] Loki39a: that's the point...get as many folks as possible off the affected grids
2005.09.02 [04:04] TexasEMT: solcita: Perhaps it's that they don't need EMT-B's and EMT-P's, only doctors and nurses
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2005.09.02 [04:04] majik: Whats the b/t stand for
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2005.09.02 [04:04] solcita: Could be. Still, EMTs would be very useful for triage.
2005.09.02 [04:04] MagiusMoo: Live radio coverage (link on left): (Link: http://www.wwl.com)http://www.wwl.com
2005.09.02 [04:04] BeanFriedPork: More hybrids too.
2005.09.02 [04:05] TurbineD: (Link: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1174992&forum_id=26)http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1174992&forum_id=26
2005.09.02 [04:05] Sollord: We should move the trains and semis to biodesil
2005.09.02 [04:05] dx2: BeanFriedPork: yeh, the truth is that there is no viable replacement for oil.  The only other ones are nuclear and coal
2005.09.02 [04:05] TurbineD: That's pretty scary if you haven't seen it yet
2005.09.02 [04:05] UJoF: Historically, the West Coast has higher gas prices than the rest of the country because we have refinery issues
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2005.09.02 [04:05] CajunTechie: How is phone service in the city? Any better?
2005.09.02 [04:05] michaelloftis: TexasEMT: they are totally disorganizedd, on all fronts, FEMA dropped the ball, the guard hasn't stepped up...the whole thing is very disorganized right now.
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2005.09.02 [04:06] UJoF: For once, it's in our favor.
2005.09.02 [04:06] TexasEMT: {dm}: From what I can see that care is being managed by local emergency services departments and private ambulance companies - I'm license and certified but not attached to anyone currently.
2005.09.02 [04:06] dx2: UJoF: Oh I thought it was because it's full of rich liberals? :P
2005.09.02 [04:06] asd127: there are replacements to cut consumption by large percentages but there is no infrastructure to do it
2005.09.02 [04:06] Alias_: triage nursing is a specific skill
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2005.09.02 [04:06] Babylonian: BeanFriedPork Biodiesel is not that expensive.. in the UK where gas prices are higher, people were buying vegetable oil from supermarkets since it doesn't have the fuel tax and running their diesel cars on that
2005.09.02 [04:06] UJoF: :P
2005.09.02 [04:06] ltc: sounds like chaos there
2005.09.02 [04:06] Pelican_Jock: TexasEMT: Where in dallas are you?
2005.09.02 [04:06] dx2: Babylonian: Yes, but it's illegal
2005.09.02 [04:06] wankle: yeah, the national average passed the Seattle average today for the first time in a LONG time
2005.09.02 [04:07] Babylonian: BeanFriedPork:  the government caught them and trieed to assess them with back taxes
2005.09.02 [04:07] TexasEMT: Solcita: Yes, EMT's are excellent for providing "front-line" medical services such as triage
2005.09.02 [04:07] ltc: i wonder what bush is doing right now.  i really hope he steps up to the bat
2005.09.02 [04:07] Loki39a: so dreadfully naughty of them <Grin>
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2005.09.02 [04:07] solcita: And Seattle's gas prices have been awful for a while.
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2005.09.02 [04:07] rick-orlando: I wonder if prices for the 'magic' 5 cyl turbo-diesel Mercedes 300D's are skyrocketing -- they'll run on french fry grease with a bit of work...
2005.09.02 [04:07] wankle: yup
2005.09.02 [04:07] cestlaguerre: still only about 2.70 in portland
2005.09.02 [04:07] TexasEMT: Pelican_Jock: I live in Arlington, but I'm at work in Bedford at the moment.
2005.09.02 [04:08] Sollord: H1 Hummer can run on jsut about anything close that will explode under pressure
2005.09.02 [04:08] asd127: bio-diesal/hydrogen hybrid would be interesting
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2005.09.02 [04:08] dx2: rick-orlando: true
2005.09.02 [04:08] cestlaguerre: "only" :P
2005.09.02 [04:08] {dm}: TexasEMT: When they start packing in the people the support staff they have will be overwhelmed.  I am sure a call for qualified medical personal will be placed.
2005.09.02 [04:08] UJoF: There is no pipeline connecting the West Coast with the East
2005.09.02 [04:08] Loki39a: it's about 3 in Palm Springs
2005.09.02 [04:08] solcita: TexasEMT: Good luck finding some good info on helping.
2005.09.02 [04:09] Pelican_Jock: TexasEMT: give me a minute, and i'll go look something up for you
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2005.09.02 [04:09] bennyfactor: As long as you don't make more than a certain number of gallons a quarter, one can manfacture biodiesel tax free in the US IIRC
2005.09.02 [04:09] UJoF: Technically, we should be almost unaffected by this.
2005.09.02 [04:09] michaelloftis: rick-orlando: a lot of diesel engines will run under just about any fuel heh.
2005.09.02 [04:09] UJoF: Righhhht...
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2005.09.02 [04:09] solcita: Sorry I couldn't get you anything further.
2005.09.02 [04:09] cestlaguerre: there are biodiesel coops in the pnw
2005.09.02 [04:10] BeanFriedPork: Just as a conspiracy theory, it wouldn't surprise me if the possibility of alternative fuels is terrifying OPEC. Without the petroleum industry, they'd practically be third world countries. So maybe they are raising the price of oil now consciously to try and combat a future lack of demand.... not to sound like a kook or whatever.
2005.09.02 [04:10] tamas: Does anyone in here have the ability to create another channel for those of us listening to the Astrodome scanner?
2005.09.02 [04:10] fiish: bennyfactor - any more info on that?
2005.09.02 [04:10] solcita: tamas: check interdictor-scanner3
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2005.09.02 [04:10] majik: tamas: -scanner3
2005.09.02 [04:10] solcita: Already open.
2005.09.02 [04:10] Babylonian: BeanFriedPork: it's not kooky, I wouldn't doubt it
2005.09.02 [04:10] tamas: thanks, sorry for not checking, doh
2005.09.02 [04:10] Babylonian: look at all the money they make
2005.09.02 [04:10] dx2: BeanFriedPork: The truth is that there is no CHEAP alternative energy.  There are PLENTY of alternative energy sources
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2005.09.02 [04:10] wankle: but raising prices now won't keep demand up later
2005.09.02 [04:10] asd127: Well there is no pressure on OPEC to cut prices
2005.09.02 [04:10] SimonRaven: BeanFriedPork: no, probably close to the truth. and i don't dubt they've thought about it
2005.09.02 [04:10] Babylonian: imagine if our fuel was all domesticly produced
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2005.09.02 [04:11] TexasEMT: {dm} What I'm worried about is that the call for personnel will be too little, too late.
2005.09.02 [04:11] SimonRaven: doubt*
2005.09.02 [04:11] rick-orlando: Michealoftis:  not for very long without replacing injector pumps after they clog up...
2005.09.02 [04:11] cestlaguerre: we really would have to annex venezuela
2005.09.02 [04:11] wankle: babylon: it would still be expensive
2005.09.02 [04:11] bennyfactor: fiish: Honestly, it's a little late and I was researching this about a year ago. Basically, one can ethylize vegetable oil without having tax stamps as long as it's under like, 280 gals / fiscal quarter? Something.
2005.09.02 [04:12] Dopefish`: dx2 how abotu natural gas
2005.09.02 [04:12] Dopefish`: not natural gas
2005.09.02 [04:12] Dopefish`: whatever gas
2005.09.02 [04:12] SimonRaven: bio-gas
2005.09.02 [04:12] wankle: foreign oil is the only thing keeping prices low right now
2005.09.02 [04:12] cestlaguerre: methane
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2005.09.02 [04:12] Dopefish`: cars can run on gas and australia etc has heaps of it
2005.09.02 [04:13] jconway963: i am sorry sir you must be approved by our load officer before you fill up
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2005.09.02 [04:13] Sollord: actually less oil is OPECs dream since they can loads of cash for what cost them $4 a barrel to make
2005.09.02 [04:13] dx2: Dopefish`: Natural gas is a very good idea, but more and more power plants run on it (since no nuclear plants were built in the last 20 years)... Natural gas prices are increasing
2005.09.02 [04:13] ltc: cars in poland will run on ANYTHING
2005.09.02 [04:13] Dopefish`: infact lots of peopel here run their cars on gas (the actual gas as in not petrol)
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2005.09.02 [04:13] TexasEMT: {dm}: It's really frustrating because I'm literally available to go anywhere - I'm not attached to any EMS company and am certified on a national level (national registry of EMTs)
2005.09.02 [04:13] Sollord: We can replace car fule but will still need oil for industry
2005.09.02 [04:14] Dopefish`: only costs about $1000 USD to get the car converted then it runs on it fine
2005.09.02 [04:14] kyhwana: is scanner1 (left channel) down?
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2005.09.02 [04:14] Dopefish`: and its cheap
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2005.09.02 [04:14] solcita: it's just -scanner , not -scanner1
2005.09.02 [04:14] ibanix: kyhwana: there's lots of cross over from other channels
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2005.09.02 [04:14] dx2: TexasEMT: have you looked at the FEMA website?
2005.09.02 [04:14] rick-orlando: Dopefish:  Where is this?
2005.09.02 [04:14] ltc: TexasEMT: have you considered just going to New Orleans and throwing yourself into the aid effort.  It'd be a really heroic move.
2005.09.02 [04:14] zardinuk: (Link: http://www.wildernessenergy.com/)http://www.wildernessenergy.com/
2005.09.02 [04:15] kyhwana: oh, i'm not hearing anything on that channel at all
2005.09.02 [04:15] dx2: ltc: foolish
2005.09.02 [04:15] fiish: bennyfactor. Sounds interesting. I've seen mod kits available for diesals that allow you to empty deepfryers into the tank. Didn't look like much more than a stocking filter (to keep bits of chips out) and a strainer
2005.09.02 [04:15] Dopefish`: eg, petrol costs $1.30 per litre and gas is like 40c per litre (in australia) (im not 100% sure of those prices.. just an example)
2005.09.02 [04:15] ltc: TexasEMT: difficult, but heroic
2005.09.02 [04:15] {zombie}: Dopefish`: you're talking about LPG (Butane/Propane)
2005.09.02 [04:15] {dm}: Ltc: That would not be smart.
2005.09.02 [04:16] dx2: fiish: I have seen that too
2005.09.02 [04:16] WillySilly: chicks dig heros :P
2005.09.02 [04:16] Dopefish`: Yep
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2005.09.02 [04:16] Dopefish`: lpg
2005.09.02 [04:16] {dm}: TexasEMT: Thought about calling Houston's effort and helping all the folks out here?
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2005.09.02 [04:16] {zombie}: not many people here would know that, just clarifying :)
2005.09.02 [04:16] Dopefish`: how about in the US do you have much of that
2005.09.02 [04:16] fiish: dx2 - It was on Slashdot from memory :-)
2005.09.02 [04:16] shoguyver: I can't believe the devastation I've been seeing the last few days.
2005.09.02 [04:16] ltc: TexasEMT: I happen to know the guy who provided the generator support at ground zero on 9/12.  nobody asked him to help.  he just went.
2005.09.02 [04:16] dx2: fiish: But do you realize that if A LOT of people do that, the price of deepfrier oil will increase too?
2005.09.02 [04:17] wankle: dope: no, none
2005.09.02 [04:17] dx2: fiish: yep
2005.09.02 [04:17] WillySilly: vegetable oil = better than gas
2005.09.02 [04:17] fiish: dx2 - vicious circle huh
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2005.09.02 [04:17] solcita: so raise the price of french fries.
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2005.09.02 [04:17] Dopefish`: lol ;(
2005.09.02 [04:18] dx2: fiish: yeh
2005.09.02 [04:18] Dopefish`: ok
2005.09.02 [04:18] wankle: the only CNG or LNG cars are a couple taxis, and maybe some busses
2005.09.02 [04:18] pinkish: thankie
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2005.09.02 [04:18] solcita: sheesh.
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2005.09.02 [04:18] solcita: pink!
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2005.09.02 [04:18] bennyfactor: fiish: That's different. SVO (straight vegetable oil) or used fry stuff needs special equipment like different plugs and tank heaters because it's more viscous, and used stuff needs betetr filtration
2005.09.02 [04:18] fiish: Australia has large supplies of Sugar Cain though
2005.09.02 [04:18] michaelloftis: yw miss.
2005.09.02 [04:18] BeanFriedPork: I know in DC some of the Metro buses run on natural gas. Just a third of them, but it's certainly a plausible idea to convert more public buses for natural gas. Not that that isn't an inexhaustible resource itself, but it'd help.
2005.09.02 [04:18] solcita: welcome back.
2005.09.02 [04:18] dx2: fiish:  The truth is that increasing gas price = pure inflation... scary
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2005.09.02 [04:19] Loki39a: dang...deep fried food more expensive, less cardiac disease....so sad, too bad...
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2005.09.02 [04:19] bennyfactor: Biodiesel is made from veg oil, but it's not SVO
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2005.09.02 [04:19] asd127: Anderson Cooper from CNN told the governor of Louisiana he was "tired of hearing politicians thanking each other while corpses are in the streets being eaten by rats."
2005.09.02 [04:19] Dopefish`: no more deep fried marsbars lol
2005.09.02 [04:19] BeanFriedPork: SVO?
2005.09.02 [04:19] BeanFriedPork: oh
2005.09.02 [04:19] Cellulaer: the shuttle buses in Yosemite National Park are hybrid buses now
2005.09.02 [04:19] jconway963: if cars could only run on washington bs
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2005.09.02 [04:20] WillySilly: bennyfactor: that vegetable oil set up costs like $1200, and you can still use deisel if you need to
2005.09.02 [04:20] dx2: asd127: hahahahaha
2005.09.02 [04:20] mcsmurf: hehe
2005.09.02 [04:20] starla: Whats the story on this cooper guy
2005.09.02 [04:20] rick-orlando: Straight Veggie oil
2005.09.02 [04:20] fiish: bennyfactor: There was one problem with that modification kit. The car still needed to be started up normally until the oil was heated to a sufficient temperature.
2005.09.02 [04:20] zardinuk: you can get a CNG refueling device installed in your garage, talk to your local gas company there are usually tax breaks for running your car on CNG and the hybrid conversion is not too expensive either
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2005.09.02 [04:21] majik: The bus systems here run on overhead power lines
2005.09.02 [04:21] SimonRaven: jconway963: hehehe
2005.09.02 [04:21] Frungy: asd127: (Link: http://picapic.net/media/9HGVQW5)http://picapic.net/media/9HGVQW5
2005.09.02 [04:21] Loki39a: biodiesel can also cook down from animal fats...
2005.09.02 [04:21] jconway963: :)
2005.09.02 [04:21] dx2: asd127: I ahve watched foxnews reporters.  They were VERY VERY critical of the crisis management
2005.09.02 [04:21] kyhwana: oops, had the headphones on wrong
2005.09.02 [04:21] Loki39a: more wastes...but doable
2005.09.02 [04:21] mcsmurf: :D
2005.09.02 [04:21] kyhwana: Not hearing anything on the RIGHT channel of LSP (baton rouge)
2005.09.02 [04:21] BeanFriedPork: Maybe other plants other than soy could produce effective biodiesel fuel. Something cheaper to grow that can yield more per acre of plants....
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2005.09.02 [04:21] bennyfactor: fiish: Yeah, that's why you make the biodiesel yourself, it functions exactly the same as petro
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2005.09.02 [04:22] zardinuk: someone needs to invent a car that runs on pig shit
2005.09.02 [04:22] wankle: wow, if Fox is slamming the feds, you know it's bad
2005.09.02 [04:22] aSmig: ok, who stole the damn generator?
2005.09.02 [04:22] dx2: BeanFriedPork: yes, that would be the solution
2005.09.02 [04:22] Loki39a: rapeseed is a good oil plant...
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2005.09.02 [04:23] ibanix: is it know if anyone in NO is transmitting/reporting on HAM frequencies?
2005.09.02 [04:23] dx2: wankle: I know :P
2005.09.02 [04:23] Frungy: for raping
2005.09.02 [04:23] BeanFriedPork: But yeah, alternative energy has to happen, soon
2005.09.02 [04:23] rick-orlando: bennyfactor:  but you need assloads of nitromethane to make bio-d
2005.09.02 [04:23] bennyfactor: SVO has to either be preheated to ~150 iirc or you have to start the car on petro
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2005.09.02 [04:23] majik: zardinuk: In hopes that its coming I'll sell it to you for $3/gallon
2005.09.02 [04:23] SimonRaven: zardinuk: yeh, bio-gas.
2005.09.02 [04:23] crschmidt: sounds like they lost anotehr generator
2005.09.02 [04:23] crschmidt: "has been taken" went out over the radio
2005.09.02 [04:23] zardinuk: majik: free shipping?
2005.09.02 [04:24] SimonRaven: reap the methane and other out-gassings from it
2005.09.02 [04:24] bennyfactor: rick-orlando: are you sure?
2005.09.02 [04:24] majik: :x
2005.09.02 [04:24] zardinuk: I dont have enough land to grow corn, otherwise I'd seriously consider that
2005.09.02 [04:24] ltc: can anyone tell me what a 'triage area' is?
2005.09.02 [04:24] wankle: well, I'm signing off for the night
2005.09.02 [04:24] jconway963: i want to invent a car that does 500 miles to the gallon with zero green house gases and runs on bong water
2005.09.02 [04:24] Loki39a: umm....nitromethane?
2005.09.02 [04:24] rick-orlando: That's the usual way to do it in your garage.  Nitromethane and lye.  + distilled water for the rinse phase.
2005.09.02 [04:25] Loki39a: (Link: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html)http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html
2005.09.02 [04:25] majik: I hope they do get some mainstreme alt-energy soon
2005.09.02 [04:25] TexasEMT: ltc: I've definitely considered trying to go myself, but from what I have heard they have the roads blocked off
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2005.09.02 [04:25] tamas: Are the scanner channels for transcription only or also for comments between chat particpants?
2005.09.02 [04:25] zardinuk: I got me a moonshine factory in the back
2005.09.02 [04:25] Dybdahl: zardinuk, such a car exists...
2005.09.02 [04:25] crschmidt: ltc: area where they choose who to give medical  treatment
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2005.09.02 [04:25] {dm}: Tamas: They are +m.  Only transciption
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2005.09.02 [04:25] wankle: you kids have fun. wake me up with gsa is $3.50 a gallon. (should be around 6:00 when my alarm goes off)
2005.09.02 [04:25] Loki39a: the recipes I've read call for lye and methanol...
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2005.09.02 [04:25] majik: ltc: Medical based on how hurt people are, who can be saved
2005.09.02 [04:25] dx2: wankle: hahaha
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2005.09.02 [04:25] dx2: wankle: Naa, probably next week
2005.09.02 [04:25] SA-HCJ: heya
2005.09.02 [04:26] ltc: crschmidt and majik: thanks
2005.09.02 [04:26] Pelican_Jock: texasEMT: did you try this number? 214-670-4275
2005.09.02 [04:26] Avocado: gas has been $3/gallon in Canada for months now and life goes on
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2005.09.02 [04:26] wankle: national average is $3.00 right now
2005.09.02 [04:26] fiish: I've been watching the Futures stock for a couple of weeks. Can someone confirm what I've heard. Basically oil is pumped & barrelled, say as of today, however they do not plan to sell it for another 2-3 months. The price of that barrel (the Future Stocks) is basically the price they intend to sell it at on that future date. If the price in the future is higher than they predicted then it means more profit. Too high however & it
2005.09.02 [04:26] fiish:  would cause a financial depression. So it's basically a juggling act as you try to tell people the price won't go up while at the same time planning (and hoping) that it will. At least that's my understanding of the Futures market.
2005.09.02 [04:26] wankle: I bet it will be $3.50 by sunday night
2005.09.02 [04:26] BeanFriedPork: There's always hydrogen, but thats about two decades off.... and also requires natural gas just to produce large quantities of hydrogen.
2005.09.02 [04:26] rick-orlando: It's late, and I was WRONG.  Methanol -- that's easier to get...
2005.09.02 [04:27] Sollord: gas is  $330ish around here
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2005.09.02 [04:27] asd127: Frungy: Good when he said "who are you angry at" heh...
2005.09.02 [04:27] jt_34: (Link: http://willrawls.blogspot.com)http://willrawls.blogspot.com - New Orleans / Katrina URLs blogged from the various #interdictor channels for the last few hours
2005.09.02 [04:27] dx2: fiish: yes, that is correct
2005.09.02 [04:28] zardinuk: you can make alcohol from the weeds (growing all over my lawn) but the enzymes involved in that are somewhat expensive... if it catches on they will go down in price
2005.09.02 [04:28] TexasEMT: Pelican_Jock: Doesn't seem familiar, who is that to?
2005.09.02 [04:28] Loki39a: lol ...it's all good
2005.09.02 [04:28] starkravingblah: TexasEMT:  you may want to try the American Red Cross in Dallas, they are apparently coordinating the effort at Reunion Arena (Link: http://www.nbc5i.com/community/4922013/detail.html)http://www.nbc5i.com/community/4922013/detail.html
2005.09.02 [04:28] mcsmurf: the astro scanner is much more busy than the rest ;)
2005.09.02 [04:28] tamas: If people are interested in the Astrodome area, especially if listening to the Astrdome channel, try this link:
2005.09.02 [04:28] listener65: I've got a question - just why aren't they using heat sensor/infrared-type equipment to scan for people who're under the roofs?  Do they not have them, or are they using them, or what?
2005.09.02 [04:29] tamas:  (Link: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=astrodome,houston,+tx&ll=29.68469730904405,-95.40720462799072&spn=0.0187013022355865,0.024135589599609375&t=h&num=10&start=0&hl=en)http://maps.google.com/maps?q=astrodome,houston,+tx&ll=29.68469730904405,-95.40720462799072&spn=0.0187013022355865,0.024135589599609375&t=h&num=10&start=0&hl=en
2005.09.02 [04:29] dx2: fiish: that's what I was talking about... that's a risk of massive inflation.  Inflation for the month of july alone was 2 %... that is 24 % per year!
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2005.09.02 [04:29] Dybdahl: Gas is $7 a gallon here - (Link: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=55.727110,11.733398&spn=1.100530,3.616425&hl=en)http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=55.727110,11.733398&spn=1.100530,3.616425&hl=en
2005.09.02 [04:29] BeanFriedPork: fiish: that's true, but individual gas stations can sell the oil at whatever price they choose. They can raise the price if they expect the future cost to be higher.
2005.09.02 [04:29] Loki39a: possibly too many heat sources
2005.09.02 [04:29] fiish: thanks dx2. Only recent started to follow the stocks so it's a bit new to me. Sounds pretty screwed up though.
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2005.09.02 [04:29] dx2: listener65: they can't see easily under the roofs
2005.09.02 [04:29] Loki39a: or if it's 95F outside...and people radiate at 98.5F....
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2005.09.02 [04:29] yume_no_hikari: $3.50 'round here would be a 100% increase in six months.
2005.09.02 [04:29] zardinuk: the funny thing is if gas gets really expensive and people start buying like, solar panels and stuff, those items prices will skyrocket too because it'll take the industry a year or so to produce faster
2005.09.02 [04:29] listener65: Ahhh.  Good point.
2005.09.02 [04:30] Pelican_Jock: TexasEMT: it's a volunteer hotline here in dallas
2005.09.02 [04:30] erulehto: listener65: likely they don't have them, and if they dead, have mor pressing matters to deal with
2005.09.02 [04:30] UJoF: During the day, the human body may actually be cooler than the surrounding air
2005.09.02 [04:30] furiousxgeorge: (Link: http://www.hempcar.org/petvshemp.shtml)http://www.hempcar.org/petvshemp.shtml  Hemp for victory!
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2005.09.02 [04:30] pr4wn4: methanol from sugar cane
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2005.09.02 [04:30] zardinuk: buy your solar panels / wind turbines today before the price goes up
2005.09.02 [04:31] jconway963: lol
2005.09.02 [04:31] Loki39a: and then there's old school tech
2005.09.02 [04:31] bennyfactor: (Link: http://biodieselcommunity.org/)http://biodieselcommunity.org/
2005.09.02 [04:31] listener65: Yeah, I'm talkin' about the survivors they've been trying to dig out.  But yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  Thanks.
2005.09.02 [04:31] Loki39a: external combustion engines
2005.09.02 [04:31] ltc: Capitalism shows it's weakness in a disaster such as this
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2005.09.02 [04:31] BeanFriedPork: Gas is that expensive in Denmark? I thought nearby Norway was a major oil producer... or something.
2005.09.02 [04:31] dx2: fiish: Discoveries of oil started decreasing significantly in the 1980s (go check for yourself).  Usually discoveries precede production by 20 years.  This means the production should start decreasing by now
2005.09.02 [04:32] bennyfactor: These guys seem to make biodiesel themselves
2005.09.02 [04:32] Loki39a: steam cars
2005.09.02 [04:32] majik: Hemp can do everything
2005.09.02 [04:32] ltc: its, even
2005.09.02 [04:33] Sollord: well police chooper might have the gear but the military choppers aremostly transport sinc eim sure all the flir is in iraq
2005.09.02 [04:33] majik: but stupid political stigma
2005.09.02 [04:33] dx2: BeanFriedPork: yes, but in Europe they have massive taxes
2005.09.02 [04:33] Dybdahl: BeanFriedPork, yes - gas was $6 a gallon before Katrina
2005.09.02 [04:33] SimonRaven: jt_34: i've been doing the same on mine
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2005.09.02 [04:33] zardinuk: ltc: communism has the same weakness, govt. goes belly up worst case
2005.09.02 [04:34] Dybdahl: gas prices really don't affect our economy
2005.09.02 [04:34] ltc: zardinuk: who says I was defending communism?
2005.09.02 [04:34] dx2: zardinuk: The society as a whole goes belly up
2005.09.02 [04:34] rick-orlando: bennyfactor:  making bio-d is EASY, but a bit messy and time-consuming.
2005.09.02 [04:34] Dybdahl: we use the same amount of energy as we did in 1970
2005.09.02 [04:34] fiish: US$100/barrel within 12 months has been discussed. Based on current prices that would mean fuel at AU$1.70/L or roughly US$6/gallon being the new `normal` price from then on. Scary.
2005.09.02 [04:35] dx2: Dybdahl: that's the dumbest statement I have seen tonight
2005.09.02 [04:35] Dybdahl: but, of course, make much more money
2005.09.02 [04:35] bennyfactor: rick-orlando: Yeah, that's what I though
2005.09.02 [04:35] bennyfactor: t
2005.09.02 [04:35] Loki39a: gov't, sadly, is most often merely the best way to foul up in synchronous lockstep
2005.09.02 [04:35] dx2: fiish: correct
2005.09.02 [04:35] Dopefish`: fiish geesus
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2005.09.02 [04:35] zardinuk: yeah, so society in general is what you were referring to
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2005.09.02 [04:35] majik: If it doesnt sell that hight then they lose money on it though?
2005.09.02 [04:35] Dangermouse: its $7.56 a UK gallon here at the moment
2005.09.02 [04:35] zardinuk: I think free-market is fastest to adjust
2005.09.02 [04:35] Dopefish`: our nissan patrol would cost about $100 to fill up like that and it'd only last a few days of driving lol
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2005.09.02 [04:35] Dybdahl: If you build a house around here, the minimum wall thickness is a foot - if you do it thinner, you are violating energy efficiency regulations
2005.09.02 [04:36] Dopefish`: :-O
2005.09.02 [04:36] Loki39a: and the best thing the politicians can do is get outta the way and keep the folks from shooting at the constructive types...
2005.09.02 [04:36] asd127: at those prices people will start selling cars
2005.09.02 [04:36] Dangermouse: ~$1.68 a litre =)
2005.09.02 [04:36] BeanFriedPork: I seriously don't have a problem with drilling for oil in Alaska in the park they were talking about, and I'm the liberal I know who thinks that. It'd increase the U.S. domestic oil reserves by a whole 10 percent, and it's just an area of about 20 or 30 square miles. We could make it up to the wilderness we spoil, somehow, I'm sure.
2005.09.02 [04:36] fiish: Dropfish - you're not from the Dopefish from the Whirlpool website by any chance are you?
2005.09.02 [04:36] bennyfactor: Yeah, my mother's definately trading in her crazy range rover for something with a little diesel in it
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2005.09.02 [04:37] Loki39a: and buying motorcycles...
2005.09.02 [04:37] dx2: zardinuk: Out capitalist world is based on eternal growth... no growth = baaaad
2005.09.02 [04:37] Loki39a: our geography is just too spread out to re-urbanize quickly
2005.09.02 [04:37] fiish: $7.56?? wow
2005.09.02 [04:37] ltc: i wonder if we could legislate compassion.  <-- this is the hippy in me coming out.  i apologize
2005.09.02 [04:37] Dopefish`: fish i am dope_fish there
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2005.09.02 [04:37] Dopefish`: not the other one
2005.09.02 [04:37] zardinuk: dx2: I think the problem is when govt. started limiting refinery growth, like you say
2005.09.02 [04:37] dx2: BeanFriedPork: I think the guys in the WHite house know what is coming
2005.09.02 [04:38] asd127: We're in a situation where we have truly spread ourselves thin
2005.09.02 [04:38] LiddoKun: Id rather not drive a motorcycle with some stupid SUV going around like they own the road
2005.09.02 [04:38] dx2: zardinuk: indeed
2005.09.02 [04:38] LiddoKun: motorcycle vs SUV...who would win
2005.09.02 [04:38] jconway963: horse and buggy days are comming back
2005.09.02 [04:38] zardinuk: govt. fucks everything up
2005.09.02 [04:38] dx2: jconway963: hahaha yeh
2005.09.02 [04:38] ltc: jconway963: i'm down with that
2005.09.02 [04:38] majik: Lots of diabetics on the radios
2005.09.02 [04:38] bennyfactor: jconway963: Think about the amish you insensitive clod
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2005.09.02 [04:39] Babylonian: BeanFriedPork: I understand the oil in alaska could last us 6 months, maximum
2005.09.02 [04:39] Loki39a: well...there are, at 6.00/ga, gonna be less and less SUV's...
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2005.09.02 [04:39] fiish: LOL it is you. Youre name is fairly easy to remember
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2005.09.02 [04:39] jconway963: LOL
2005.09.02 [04:39] Avocado: people don't want no refinery next door to them..
2005.09.02 [04:39] dx2: jconway963: Who is going to haul goods from China?
2005.09.02 [04:40] BeanFriedPork: Not to start a political argument, but I don't think Bush knows his ass from his head without an adviser. But yeah, I think the people that work for him know the shit has hit the fan, even in the long run
2005.09.02 [04:40] pinkish: Yeah, let's not start a political war
2005.09.02 [04:40] Sollord: I was lmao of all the SUV drivers when iw as getting gas
2005.09.02 [04:40] Dangermouse: hahahahaha
2005.09.02 [04:40] TexasEMT: Just to let those in this chat channel know, I called
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2005.09.02 [04:40] majik: Any chance of a legacy is gone with this imo
2005.09.02 [04:41] ltc: problems at the lost children site?
2005.09.02 [04:41] huhugrrstampa: then it could be deliberate by his advisers.... ;-)
2005.09.02 [04:41] jconway963: brown ... brown sails that is
2005.09.02 [04:41] dx2: you guys know that EVERYTHING around you, including your computer is manufactured in China or around it... and rising prices mean that chinese stuff will cost more?
2005.09.02 [04:41] SimonRaven: jt_34: (Link: http://simonraven.nuit.ca/log/)http://simonraven.nuit.ca/log/
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2005.09.02 [04:41] dx2: rising oil prices
2005.09.02 [04:41] Sollord: the dude in front of me was in a excursion
2005.09.02 [04:41] Loki39a: there are some fairly interesting alternative shipping approaches...
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2005.09.02 [04:41] Avocado: i built my computer from hemp
2005.09.02 [04:41] ltc: i wonder what's happening
2005.09.02 [04:42] Babylonian: In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.
2005.09.02 [04:42] Sollord: He looked like was was gonna cry
2005.09.02 [04:42] dx2: Loki39a: like wagons?
2005.09.02 [04:42] zardinuk: they need to build underground bicycle expressways
2005.09.02 [04:42] bennyfactor: Avocado: You are a stoner god
2005.09.02 [04:42] dx2: Babylonian: Correct
2005.09.02 [04:42] ltc: there are "problems" at the red cross lost childrens site that is requiring muscle
2005.09.02 [04:42] Dybdahl: Anyway - Americans don't like high gas prices, but don't worry - life is good even at $7 a gallon, and you are nowhere near that.
2005.09.02 [04:42] majik: Babylonian: Link?
2005.09.02 [04:42] Avocado: how much was it to fill the excursion
2005.09.02 [04:43] dx2: zardinuk: hahahahha, what if you need a fridge delivered to your house?
2005.09.02 [04:43] BeanFriedPork: Babylonian: that's not nothing. It's not like we'd use it exclusively until it ran dry anyway. I've read it'd augment our national oil reserve supply for about twenty years or so.
2005.09.02 [04:43] Babylonian: majik:  (Link: http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/index_np.html?x)http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/index_np.html?x
2005.09.02 [04:43] TexasEMT: Just to let those in this chat channel know, I called 214-670-4275 which is a Dallas area volunteer hotline. I got someone on the phone immediately, so if anyone here has medical training/certifications and are in the Dallas/Fort Worth area please call. You can call if you're outside the area/state and they'll still take your information, if you're willing to travel.
2005.09.02 [04:43] Loki39a: no, dx2, there have been some studies on a return to wind-based vessels.....combining wind w/ modern tech
2005.09.02 [04:43] asd127: The Peak Oil scenario describes the point where half of any given oil supply has been used. Production rates fall rapidly after the peak –the date of which only becomes apparent after it has passed. Once the peak occurs, extraction becomes increasingly more difficult and expensive. Set against a backdrop of rising demand, this falling production means that prices will skyrocket.
2005.09.02 [04:43] zardinuk: dx2: then you pay for a few $10 gallons of gas
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2005.09.02 [04:44] Sollord: Babylonian... FEMA has warned about N.O. for years and no ones paid for it it's been a known  problem and was looked over after andrew
2005.09.02 [04:44] dx2: TexasEMT roger that
2005.09.02 [04:44] bennyfactor: Loki39a, I order you to swab the deck and swizzle the mizzenmast
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2005.09.02 [04:45] Babylonian: Sollord:  yes so Bush gambled when he cut the funding.. he gambled and lost
2005.09.02 [04:45] dx2: Loki39a: I'm talking about land transportation
2005.09.02 [04:45] {dm}: TExas: Glad you got in touch with people!
2005.09.02 [04:45] Loki39a: lol
2005.09.02 [04:45] TexasEMT: Pelican_Jock: Thanks for the number, was exactly what I was looking for.
2005.09.02 [04:45] zardinuk: seriously though, we need to go underground, mass personal transit, a network of underground railways that are switched like a packet network, high speed trunks, lower speed local loops, a little station in your basement to park your little train
2005.09.02 [04:45] UJoF: It was really considered again when they weren't sure where Ivan would go last year
2005.09.02 [04:46] Loki39a: ah, land transport is a different set of headaches
2005.09.02 [04:46] jconway963: if 10 bucks a gallon means no more suv´s on the roads i am all for it
2005.09.02 [04:46] ltc: TexasEMT: what did they tell you?
2005.09.02 [04:46] Pelican_Jock: TexasEMT: no porblem... did they find you something to do?
2005.09.02 [04:46] UJoF: ...and then ignored again...
2005.09.02 [04:46] dx2: zardinuk: it will make underground traffic jams? ;)
2005.09.02 [04:46] Sollord: Babylonian: Also the project wouldn't even be completed till 2008
2005.09.02 [04:47] michaelloftis: fyi we're trying to centralize links from these channels on the wiki at (Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/InfoDump)http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/InfoDump
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2005.09.02 [04:47] michaelloftis: thanks
2005.09.02 [04:47] asd127: We need those transporter rooms from star trek
2005.09.02 [04:47] zardinuk: dx2: no because it is automatically switched, routers and stuff
2005.09.02 [04:47] Babylonian: there is another tropical storm in the atlantic
2005.09.02 [04:47] ColloquySucks: zardinuk: mass transit of any sort would be nice
2005.09.02 [04:47] Sollord: it wouldn't of done anything
2005.09.02 [04:47] ColloquySucks: japan has an awesome train system
2005.09.02 [04:47] Loki39a: but I predict if things go far enough, the old canal systems on the E. Coast will be refurbished...
2005.09.02 [04:47] {dm}: Wow!
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2005.09.02 [04:48] dx2: zardinuk: hahaha, wow, that'd cost a couple trillions
2005.09.02 [04:48] Loki39a: for cargo...
2005.09.02 [04:48] zardinuk: your little car is weaving in and out of other trains going 100mph, sounds unnerving but totally safe
2005.09.02 [04:48] ltc: attempted sexual assault
2005.09.02 [04:48] tamas: Yeah, I hard that, too.
2005.09.02 [04:49] zardinuk: dx2: high initial investment :)
2005.09.02 [04:49] Babylonian: In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.
2005.09.02 [04:49] tamas: heard
2005.09.02 [04:49] zardinuk: it'd pay for itself in 20 years probably
2005.09.02 [04:49] SimonRaven: TexasEMT: good luck, and please send my best wishes to people, and tell them to hang in there. they are watched over, and people are doing everything they can to help
2005.09.02 [04:49] dx2: zardinuk: yeh, like if the US didn't have enough debt ;)
2005.09.02 [04:49] ltc: we really seek the darkness, don't we?
2005.09.02 [04:49] TexasEMT: ltc and pelican_jock - They're just taking names and training/certification level right now to organize a response. I'm not sure exactly what the timeline is though, but it's the most organized response I've gotten so far
2005.09.02 [04:49] pr4wn4: in australia we pay $1.30 a litre, that works out as $4.92 if 1 US gallon = 3.785 litres....damn
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2005.09.02 [04:50] ColloquySucks: but GM bought up all the American light rail systems in the '50s and dismantled them
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2005.09.02 [04:50] zardinuk: dx2: well as long as other countries will lend us money, right?
2005.09.02 [04:50] Dybdahl: pr4wn4, still cheap :-)
2005.09.02 [04:50] WildTangent: seems i was in the wrong channel
2005.09.02 [04:50] ltc: TexasEMT: i'm happy you called.
2005.09.02 [04:50] dx2: texasamy: I'm glad to hear there is something going on
2005.09.02 [04:50] BeanFriedPork: well... statistically, the chances of another tropical storm even hitting New Orleans again this year is unlikely. But even a modest rain storm would only create more chaos right now....
2005.09.02 [04:50] {dm}: TExas: Glad to hear Dallas has their support structure in gear and in shape to help
2005.09.02 [04:51] Loki39a: TexasEMT....good luck, and drag a stainless steel revolver w/ you...
2005.09.02 [04:51] dx2: zardinuk: right
2005.09.02 [04:51] TexasEMT: Unfortunately, that's not saying much. I have a feeling it'll be at least monday before there's any real coordinated relief effort to send personnel to Louisiana
2005.09.02 [04:51] Babylonian: BeanFriedPork:  who knows
2005.09.02 [04:51] dx2: Loki39a: haha
2005.09.02 [04:51] Sollord: The funding was started in 2002... you mean to say they did nothing with the cash fro 2year when the cash was taken away?
2005.09.02 [04:51] WildTangent: whats the latest from N.O.? most news wont update for a few hours
2005.09.02 [04:51] Pelican_Jock: TexasEMT: i called it earlier... not sure what all they need w/ a premed student, but i figured i'd help out.... I'm happy i could help you out too.
2005.09.02 [04:52] solcita: TexasEMT: good deal. It's a step in the right direction.
2005.09.02 [04:52] ltc: texasemt: did you give them a cell phone number or a land line?
2005.09.02 [04:52] tamas: I just cannot fathom that people would be interested in secually assuatling someone in these conditionsl.
2005.09.02 [04:52] ltc: texasemt: coz you know what I'm going to suggest
2005.09.02 [04:52] ltc: tamas: it's the baseness inherent in the human condition
2005.09.02 [04:53] tamas: And with all the people around, sheesh.
2005.09.02 [04:53] TexasEMT: ltc: Cell line
2005.09.02 [04:53] WildTangent: tamas: it disgusts me, but people are animals
2005.09.02 [04:53] Babylonian: NEW ORLEANS — New Orleans descended into anarchy Thursday, as corpses lay abandoned in street medians, fights and fires broke out and storm survivors battled for seats on the buses that would carry them away from the chaos. The tired and hungry seethed, saying they had been forsaken.
2005.09.02 [04:53] Dybdahl: As infrastructure is repaired around New Orleans, everything will go faster and faster. Suddenly you'll see a major part of the city operating again.
2005.09.02 [04:53] Loki39a: eh, dx2, they don't rust...and they tend to be effective idiot repellents..
2005.09.02 [04:53] bennyfactor: I'm gonna go to sleep, so no more assinine comments from yours truely
2005.09.02 [04:54] zardinuk: we need to build an army to keep the repo-men out of the country for when we all declare bankruptcy, call your local congressmen and tell them you want the anti-repo guard
2005.09.02 [04:54] ltc: texasemt: get close, man, get close.
2005.09.02 [04:54] dx2: tamas:  The people remaining in N.O. are the scum of the whole city... the poorest, the crazyest
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2005.09.02 [04:54] Avocado: (Link: http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/index_np.html?x)http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/index_np.html?x
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2005.09.02 [04:54] colonelPyat: bbc reports shoot-to-kill policy in N.O. (Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4207202.stm)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4207202.stm
2005.09.02 [04:54] ltc: tamas: it's hard to believe.
2005.09.02 [04:55] briareus: dx2: nice attitude
2005.09.02 [04:55] ltc: dx2: bullshit!
2005.09.02 [04:55] Avocado: In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.
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2005.09.02 [04:55] majik: Once the waters recede will the city be contamidated
2005.09.02 [04:56] Babylonian: colonelPyat:  what is this, a big massacre the poor people thing
2005.09.02 [04:56] dx2: majik: probably
2005.09.02 [04:56] zardinuk: its been 4 days, they could have all walked out of there by now, strollers and all
2005.09.02 [04:56] Babylonian: starve them then kill them if they try to take food
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2005.09.02 [04:56] fiish: We got stuck in traffic when we see the group of guys walking down the street w/ AK-47's, at that point the "pucker factor" kicked in, a couple Glocks and shotguns were no match for that. We haul azz trying to get to Uptown when we see these people chopping down the front door w/ an axe of this $4-5 million dollar mansion on ST. Charles Ave.
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2005.09.02 [04:56] ltc: majik: it already is
2005.09.02 [04:56] {dm}: I am curious who lets their children wander around with 13000 people you don't know around
2005.09.02 [04:56] fiish: Came from this site which someone posted before (Link: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1174992&forum_id=26)http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1174992&forum_id=26
2005.09.02 [04:56] TexasEMT: ltc: Well, I was in the Army National Guard myself a few years back, and I know just how frightened and on edge those troops are. I'm not sure I'd want to try to get past the roadblocks, even if I have a uniform on
2005.09.02 [04:57] Loki39a: no, Babylonian....it's keep the nice Emergency Services and rescue folks breathing.....
2005.09.02 [04:57] Sollord: Umm guys dx2 isn't totaly wrong you know they are among the poorest
2005.09.02 [04:57] Dybdahl: Avocado, what are the three most likely disasters to strike USA?
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2005.09.02 [04:57] colonelPyat: to stop the lawlessness i guess
2005.09.02 [04:57] ltc: texasemt: can you get closer than 300 miles?
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2005.09.02 [04:57] majik: Dybdahl: Probly earthquakes
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2005.09.02 [04:57] Babylonian: they left all the poor to die and yet expect them not to be angry
2005.09.02 [04:57] zardinuk: Dybdahl: the dreaded SUPER VOLCANO!
2005.09.02 [04:57] ltc: dx2: poorest does not mean craziest nor does it mean they are 'scum'
2005.09.02 [04:58] zardinuk: ltc: yeah it does
2005.09.02 [04:58] zardinuk: you ever live in the ghetto?
2005.09.02 [04:58] Dybdahl: majik, sounds right
2005.09.02 [04:58] ltc: zardinuk: yes
2005.09.02 [04:58] Sollord: Thought i don't know if there scum... Send a few here if they can take some detroit scum ill agree
2005.09.02 [04:58] dx2: Sollord: yeh, if they haven't left, it's because 1- they are poorly educated, don't read newspaper/radio, 2- Probably don't have a car 3- Probably don't ahve a support network outside the city... 4- Are afraid of leaving their meagre possessions
2005.09.02 [04:58] Dybdahl: zardinuk, not very likely
2005.09.02 [04:58] huhugrrstampa: I am appalled at the coverage of Fox/CNN.  It was ok, but they've switched over the last 36 hours to mainly repeating old vision.
2005.09.02 [04:58] TexasEMT: ltc: From what I understand they have I-10 cut off at the state border. I'd have to slip through the cordon somehow.
2005.09.02 [04:59] Avocado: Apparently the top three are: flood in NO, terrorist attack on NY and something else
2005.09.02 [04:59] tamas: I find it interesting that they are forcing people to be very specific about their request for officers and people don't want to explain overly much.
2005.09.02 [04:59] ltc: texasemt: can you go to the border?
2005.09.02 [05:00] Dybdahl: Avocado, thanks
2005.09.02 [05:00] majik: Texasemt: Are you heading for NO or the Astrodome?
2005.09.02 [05:00] dx2: ltc: probably not "crazyest", but from what I see a lot of them are
2005.09.02 [05:00] Babylonian: About 15,000 to 20,000 people who had taken shelter at New Orleans convention center grew increasingly hostile after waiting for buses for days amid the filth and the dead.
2005.09.02 [05:00] NubKnacker: What scanner is being copied in #scanner?
2005.09.02 [05:00] zardinuk: everybody call your congressmen and tell them you support the anti super volcano fund
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2005.09.02 [05:01] tamas: Sort of like in computing when people tell you their computer 'broke'. And you are like, um, what do you mean, it broke?
2005.09.02 [05:01] ltc: tamas: perhaps to prevent miscommunication.  miscommunication at a time like this can cause death
2005.09.02 [05:01] Sollord: huhugrrstampa: they got scared and ran off after the gun fire the hard core reporters are in iraq
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2005.09.02 [05:01] dx2: ltc: btw they took the prisoners out of N.O. Jails...
2005.09.02 [05:01] Loki39a: A persons socioeconomic status doesn't much matter when they are busy shooting at you or otherwise trying to do you harm...
2005.09.02 [05:01] TexasEMT: majik: Right now I'm trying to find out who I can offer my services to. I haven't had any agency that said "Yes, come here tomorrow at 8 AM and we'll use you for triage, patient care, etc"
2005.09.02 [05:02] starkravingblah: avocado:  massive earthquake in los angeles?
2005.09.02 [05:02] dx2: ltc: but actions are ;)
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2005.09.02 [05:02] Pelican_Jock: TexasEMT: You could go thru shreveport and down to alexandria, la... but there's going to be at least 25,000 people here in dallas... i'm sure at least some of them need some help. plus, you save on gas money.
2005.09.02 [05:02] tamas: ltc: good point, plus they everyone probably wants a police offer in their area, but that's just not possible
2005.09.02 [05:02] fiish: I do not mean to offend anyone - but I can't see people here (In Oz) people doing what has been happening in NO. Hopefully it is just a result of the extreme circumstances and not an indiciation of a `every man for himself` mentality lying just under the surface of all Americans.
2005.09.02 [05:03] rick-orlando: nubknacker: (Link: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/)http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
2005.09.02 [05:03] ltc: tamas: true dat
2005.09.02 [05:03] Babylonian: starkravingblah:  no San Francisco
2005.09.02 [05:03] Belladona: The Illinois governor just went on tv and announced that IL schools will take in homeless children from the hurricane zones
2005.09.02 [05:03] tamas: Apportionment of scarce resources.
2005.09.02 [05:04] huhugrrstampa: you get a big enough earthquake in Los Angeles and it'll flood worse than Stew Orleans
2005.09.02 [05:04] NubKnacker: rick-orlando: is it the police scanner or what?
2005.09.02 [05:04] dx2: ltc: going in a wal-mart and looting gardening equipment.  You find that Non-crazy?  Roaming the streets and shooting at policemen with Ak-47s that's non-crazy?
2005.09.02 [05:04] Belladona: *wondering about their families*
2005.09.02 [05:04] rick-orlando: Sorry:  (Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Radio_Info)http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Radio_Info
2005.09.02 [05:04] ltc: fiish: let's hope
2005.09.02 [05:04] zardinuk: let them die, they're the runts of society
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2005.09.02 [05:05] Dopefish`: fiish also we dont have so many guns
2005.09.02 [05:05] ltc: dx2: remember the imac stampede?
2005.09.02 [05:05] rick-orlando: FEMA and assorted public service radios
2005.09.02 [05:05] ltc: dx2: and those were 'regular' people, no?
2005.09.02 [05:05] NubKnacker: Rick-orlando: thanks.
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2005.09.02 [05:05] dx2: ltc: yep I do, that was sad
2005.09.02 [05:05] Loki39a: get a big enough quick in LA, and it won't REQUIRE flooding to stage a full-out disaster
2005.09.02 [05:06] starla: the South Carolina school organization whatever it is went on television saying that they would take on students as well with out requiring birth certificates or proof of guardianship
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2005.09.02 [05:06] dx2: ltc: Yeh, you are right
2005.09.02 [05:06] tamas: They have an official 'Lost Children Office'?
2005.09.02 [05:06] starkravingblah: los angeles is MUCH bigger than sf
2005.09.02 [05:06] ltc: dx2: the folks in NO are under great duress.  Duress like I can not imagine
2005.09.02 [05:06] {dm}: Yes.
2005.09.02 [05:07] Sollord: well the people shooting are the scum of the earth they need to be shot back at
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2005.09.02 [05:07] dx2: Sollord: hahaha
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2005.09.02 [05:07] crschmidt: anyone willing to transcribe?
2005.09.02 [05:07] {dm}: People are letting their spawn wonder about with rapeist and criminals around
2005.09.02 [05:07] crschmidt: (Link: http://216.14.30.229:8001/)http://216.14.30.229:8001/ needs a replacement left channel
2005.09.02 [05:07] dx2: Sollord: Well, that's what the authorities are saying though
2005.09.02 [05:07] zardinuk: did somebody say star trek?
2005.09.02 [05:07] ltc: dx2: i am not about to pass any judgement on the souls in New Orleans
2005.09.02 [05:08] huhugrrstampa: I wonder how fast things would have moved if there were more pretty, white girls involved?
2005.09.02 [05:08] Sollord: Get some cobras in to provide air cover the people shooting will stop real fast
2005.09.02 [05:08] Pelican_Jock: texasEMT: hang on a minute, and i'll see if i can get you a number to get ahold of medical volunteer work at Reunion sometime in the next day or so.
2005.09.02 [05:08] ltc: {dm}: define 'letting'
2005.09.02 [05:08] Belladona: amen huhugrrstampa
2005.09.02 [05:08] starkravingblah: more of this so-called "scum" in los angeles too
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2005.09.02 [05:09] zardinuk: Sollord: Daisy cutters
2005.09.02 [05:09] Loki39a: and some of the folks doing the shooting in NO are simply "repelling boarders"
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2005.09.02 [05:09] Sollord: We'd loose donny if we used those
2005.09.02 [05:10] fiish: Dopefish: Probably right. The difference is in the gun attitude. Let's just hope this sort of thing doesn't happen in Canada where they have more guns per capita than the USA.
2005.09.02 [05:10] Loki39a: as in "no, you may not do harm to me, my family, or my livelihood"
2005.09.02 [05:10] huhugrrstampa: ok quick lets get some Mardi Gras girls down there.
2005.09.02 [05:10] dx2: ltc: Being totally uninformed about what is happening, not seeing police enforcement or anything positive, I'd probably turn rogue too.
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2005.09.02 [05:11] Belladona: oh CHRIST
2005.09.02 [05:11] ltc: dx2: i'd pray you didn't
2005.09.02 [05:11] Belladona: they are having a concert for hurricane relief
2005.09.02 [05:11] ltc: belladona: what?
2005.09.02 [05:11] dx2: ltc: haha
2005.09.02 [05:11] Belladona: *bangs head *
2005.09.02 [05:11] crschmidt: anybody? anybody?
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2005.09.02 [05:11] rcalise: A civilian relief mission to New Orleans is currently in the worts. Any interested parties should join #op-canola (Operation: Citizens Assisting NOLA) or visit (Link: http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/)http://www.rcalise.net/norescue/ for more information.
2005.09.02 [05:11] majik: Who is?
2005.09.02 [05:12] starkravingblah: dx2:  yeah, mad max beyond thunderdome style
2005.09.02 [05:12] zardinuk: You know if this had happened during Mardi Gras there would be topless bodies everywhere
2005.09.02 [05:12] Belladona: i didnt get all the artisits nbames
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2005.09.02 [05:12] Belladona: bunch of country artists it sounded like
2005.09.02 [05:12] majik: Was there a link
2005.09.02 [05:12] Dybdahl: zardinuk, :-)
2005.09.02 [05:12] dx2: Belladona: yeh, Bush Sr. and Clinton will try to get some money too
2005.09.02 [05:13] fiish: starkravingblah: Mad Max 2 was better
2005.09.02 [05:13] dx2: starkravingblah: something like that
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2005.09.02 [05:13] Loki39a: god forbid I should be trapped in such a situation....but as soon as practical I'd be heavily armed and trying to walk the hell out....
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2005.09.02 [05:13] starkravingblah: fiish: agreed
2005.09.02 [05:13] Loki39a: best strategy "be someplace else" asap
2005.09.02 [05:13] rick-orlando: Loki39a:  how far can you swim in a sewer?
2005.09.02 [05:13] zardinuk: everyone should own a 45 caliber handgun
2005.09.02 [05:14] ltc: Loki39a: do you think that would be an ethical response?  I'm not saying it isn't.  I'm just asking.
2005.09.02 [05:14] fiish: "A smart man might have a weapon under there"
2005.09.02 [05:14] zardinuk: the world would be a better place
2005.09.02 [05:14] Sollord: They need to put the 50cals back on the choppers so they can return fire
2005.09.02 [05:15] SimonRaven: ffs
2005.09.02 [05:15] mesh: its all about th 40 caliber
2005.09.02 [05:15] Loki39a: I think it'd be ethical in the context of "getting out of the way"
2005.09.02 [05:15] zardinuk: 40 is decent
2005.09.02 [05:15] dx2: Sollord: Well, determining the source of the fire is hard to do
2005.09.02 [05:15] mesh: more rounds, adequet stopping power
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2005.09.02 [05:16] Loki39a: and I'm old-fashioned...I like the .45LC
2005.09.02 [05:16] rick-orlando: 40 short & weak ???
2005.09.02 [05:16] Sollord: I only own a .30-06 -.-
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2005.09.02 [05:16] zardinuk: 45, sub-sonic
2005.09.02 [05:16] Loki39a: revolver, thank you.
2005.09.02 [05:16] mesh: lol
2005.09.02 [05:16] ltc: Loki39a: do you have any skills that could help other people in that situation?
2005.09.02 [05:16] Belladona: i have a question
2005.09.02 [05:16] Belladona: looting
2005.09.02 [05:16] Belladona: who cares if STUFF is taken
2005.09.02 [05:17] mesh: .50 winchester elephant killer
2005.09.02 [05:17] dx2: Belladona: Good point
2005.09.02 [05:17] LiddoKun: i would if it was my shop
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2005.09.02 [05:17] ltc: belladona: some of that STUFF is, in fact, being redistributed
2005.09.02 [05:17] Loki39a: I can do LAN repair, stand guard, and do industrial scale cooking....
2005.09.02 [05:18] zardinuk: i carry a kel-tec p3at at my ankle most days, god knows I'll never get to use it here in UTAH
2005.09.02 [05:18] {dm}: Belladona, I do care that people are looting and then being sent to my city.
2005.09.02 [05:18] Belladona: if water is being stolen while people are dying of dehydration .. really who cares
2005.09.02 [05:18] huhugrrstampa: let the idiots take "stuff"... leaves food & water for the more intelligent
2005.09.02 [05:19] NubKnacker: That scanner channel, is someone listening to radio and typing it out or what?
2005.09.02 [05:19] ltc: belladona: but what if they're looting guns and ammo?
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2005.09.02 [05:19] Loki39a: Belladonna, if folks *stuff* is taken...they may not have the means to rebuild or pay/support others
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2005.09.02 [05:19] tamas: Some refugees are getting sent out to Hunstville now that Houston is filling up.
2005.09.02 [05:19] rick-orlando: I'm an NRA Expert at ranges of 600 yards or less w/ an assault rifle.  I have a job in mind...
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2005.09.02 [05:20] dx2: ltc:  Guns don't kill people.  People do.
2005.09.02 [05:20] dx2: ;)
2005.09.02 [05:20] majik: Bella:most of the looting is for weapons that people are worried about
2005.09.02 [05:20] Buckminster: i have a question, why is it everytime i enter a Katrina related IRC Channel, there are always people comparing the sizes of the weapons they own?
2005.09.02 [05:20] ltc: dx2: grrrrrrrr
2005.09.02 [05:20] zardinuk: I kill people
2005.09.02 [05:20] {dm}: Tamas, Huntsville has a prison too
2005.09.02 [05:20] erulehto: ideally people would self-organize, neighborhood watch and all that
2005.09.02 [05:20] Loki39a: eh, I figure job 1 is "get outta the way" in such circumstances...
2005.09.02 [05:21] Buckminster: just wondering
2005.09.02 [05:21] Sollord: Belladona: They stealing tv and boxes of nikes and jewlery and gun
2005.09.02 [05:21] Babylonian: turn on MSNBC
2005.09.02 [05:21] NubKnacker: That scanner channel, is someone listening to radio and typing it out or what?
2005.09.02 [05:21] Belladona: Buckminster its a pen*s thing i think
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2005.09.02 [05:22] ltc: loki39a: i understand
2005.09.02 [05:22] Loki39a: job *2* is to find a way to help
2005.09.02 [05:22] solcita: NubKnacker: yes
2005.09.02 [05:22] zardinuk: if I wasn't carrying a gun under my seat it'd be a tire-iron
2005.09.02 [05:22] Buckminster: Belladona: you may be right
2005.09.02 [05:22] Sollord: I saw a dude on tv wiht 10boxesof nikes
2005.09.02 [05:22] NubKnacker: Solcita: thanks.
2005.09.02 [05:22] SimonRaven: Buckminster: "my penis is bigger than your penis"
2005.09.02 [05:22] Belladona: Sollord: and that TV is worth shooting someone over?
2005.09.02 [05:22] erulehto: but if you have ghettos and chaos before something hits you're sorta stuck w/ the mess
2005.09.02 [05:23] mesh: dang wouldent want to have the dood who is typings job
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2005.09.02 [05:23] fiish: Sollord: Well of course they are. Everyone knows that shiney rocks mounted to pieces of metal are going to worth a fortune after all this... </sarcasm>
2005.09.02 [05:23] huhugrrstampa: I'm wondering if this isn
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2005.09.02 [05:23] dx2: fiish: haha I like your attitude
2005.09.02 [05:24] huhugrrstampa: I'm wondering if this isn't a fuck-up.... that's it's somehow deliberate.
2005.09.02 [05:24] Chrisbert: so how are we getting these scanner feeds out of NEw Orleans?
2005.09.02 [05:24] Sollord: Belladona: Normally no but when all order breaks down yes
2005.09.02 [05:24] Loki39a: somehow, I've always tried to live in areas that offered at least one walkable escape route should it all go to shit...and I keep a fire extinguisher in the house, too <Grin>
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2005.09.02 [05:24] ltc: I'd just like to take a moment to express my thanks to the people who are actually working to help people in NO.  That is, the folks we are listening to.  Can I get a hell yeah?
2005.09.02 [05:24] Belladona: If I had been stuck down there and My family was dying of dehydration you bet your ass I'd forage in the local market for water and edibles
2005.09.02 [05:25] fiish: thx dx2 :-)
2005.09.02 [05:25] rick-orlando: Radio > computer > intarweb.
2005.09.02 [05:25] rcalise: Correction: all interested parties in helping with CANOLA should join #norescue. I apologize to the few of you who were kicked from the channel.
2005.09.02 [05:25] dx2: fiish:  "nothing says "I love you" as well as a lump of carbon mined by workers in Uganda"
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2005.09.02 [05:25] fiish: LMAO true
2005.09.02 [05:25] zardinuk: WE NEED MORE GUNS!
2005.09.02 [05:25] majik: What are morse ids
2005.09.02 [05:26] Sollord: Belladona: You really think the police or military will waste ammo on a person stealing food and water?
2005.09.02 [05:26] listener65: hell yeah!
2005.09.02 [05:26] kyhwana: where is defender 5?
2005.09.02 [05:26] zardinuk: lol
2005.09.02 [05:26] majik: Sollord: if they're in the rich part of town :
2005.09.02 [05:26] ltc: listener65: thanks!
2005.09.02 [05:26] erulehto: majik: station operator identifier sent as morse code instead of voice
2005.09.02 [05:27] crschmidt: kyhwana: defender 5 is at superdome
2005.09.02 [05:27] tamas: Man how much would it suck to go through the hurricane, live thorugh the Superdome experience, get on a bus to Houston, get there, and wait inside the bus while the Houston staffers routed you around for hours trying to get the other arenas ready?
2005.09.02 [05:27] kyhwana: crschmidt: roger
2005.09.02 [05:27] dx2: Sollord: I heard the police were protecting the upscale part of N.O.
2005.09.02 [05:28] zardinuk: GUNS!
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2005.09.02 [05:28] Belladona: Sollord if that persons skin wasnt pasty white... sure
2005.09.02 [05:28] WillySilly: tamas: murder rampage time
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2005.09.02 [05:28] ltc: I'll say it again.  Can I get a HELL YEAH for the people who are organizing and facilitating the aid effort in New Orleans?
2005.09.02 [05:28] WillySilly: lol
2005.09.02 [05:28] jt_34: (Link: http://willrawls.blogspot.com)http://willrawls.blogspot.com - New Orleans / Katrina URLs blogged from the various #interdictor channels for the last few hours
2005.09.02 [05:29] crschmidt: defender3 is nearby, but has cases of water
2005.09.02 [05:29] Loki39a: Yes..
2005.09.02 [05:29] crschmidt: bringing them over to 5
2005.09.02 [05:29] dx2: tamas: I heard that most of them waited around the superdome for like 3 days without news, water, toilet, food
2005.09.02 [05:29] Sollord: najik: will yeah thats a given... since if your in the rich part of town you are paying off the N.O. police already
2005.09.02 [05:29] SimonRaven: bows and arrows. at least you don't a factory to make the gun powder
2005.09.02 [05:29] dx2: tamas: in 90 F heat
2005.09.02 [05:29] SimonRaven: don't need*
2005.09.02 [05:29] firew: Links that have been posted on this channel ====>  (Link: http://dnetcentral.gotdns.com/katrina/)http://dnetcentral.gotdns.com/katrina/
2005.09.02 [05:30] zardinuk: GUNS AND BOMBS! HELL YEAH!
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2005.09.02 [05:30] furiousxgeorge: (Link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/2/34622/68348)http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/2/34622/68348
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2005.09.02 [05:30] Sollord: The police are probally looking the rich peoples homes
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2005.09.02 [05:30] inter049: can somene send me a /msg is there some good summary somewhere or just the blog?
2005.09.02 [05:31] joebob: How can i get into NOLA
2005.09.02 [05:31] joebob: anyone know?
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2005.09.02 [05:31] pinkish: summary of?
2005.09.02 [05:31] majik: Summery of what
2005.09.02 [05:31] jas_: rocket ship?
2005.09.02 [05:31] svenge: joebob: paratroop
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2005.09.02 [05:31] London-UK: we are in an interglacial period, thing is the cycle isnt uniform, some periods longer than others... hard to tell exactly where you are on the curve
2005.09.02 [05:31] joebob: da plane
2005.09.02 [05:32] Sollord: Scuba
2005.09.02 [05:32] acidstars: anybody know, offhand, how big NOLA is in sq miles?
2005.09.02 [05:32] jas_: trebuchet?
2005.09.02 [05:32] asd127: It is still possible that for all the technology we create it is part of a natural evolutionary process even if we cause our own destruction
2005.09.02 [05:32] dx2: (Link: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/)http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
2005.09.02 [05:33] joebob: jas_ yes!!!
2005.09.02 [05:33] Lelio: kyhwana, totally. not really anything dangerous about ge food, plenty dangerous about biotech company monopolies.
2005.09.02 [05:33] Midas: It's only human ignorance and arrogance to assume the Earth would suddenly sumbit to our wishes for it to not change anymore, as if erosion and the laws of physics were to bow to our sheer moronism
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2005.09.02 [05:33] dx2: asd127: it will
2005.09.02 [05:34] dx2: Midas: We did kill all buffalos in America... didn't we
2005.09.02 [05:34] svenge: don't forget: while NOLA is getting all the headlines, smaller cities in Mississippi are as bad or even worse off in terms of destruction.
2005.09.02 [05:34] majik: The latimes wrote a big article that seems like it has everything the little half pages had
2005.09.02 [05:34] joebob: give me a trebuchet and a flat place to operate it, and I will move the world
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2005.09.02 [05:35] jas_: wow Steve Harrigan is rescuing people now
2005.09.02 [05:35] majik: (Link: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-katrina2sep02,0,190126.story?coll=la-home-nation)http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-katrina2sep02,0,190126.story?coll=la-home-nation
2005.09.02 [05:35] jas_: what a guy!
2005.09.02 [05:35] dx2: Midas: Europe used to have trees everywhere...
2005.09.02 [05:35] acidstars: if you want an idea as to how bad it is just go look at some of the photos/slideshows on newssites. ugh.
2005.09.02 [05:35] Sollord: (Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4207202.stm)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4207202.stm o.O
2005.09.02 [05:35] dx2: Midas: You think those are negligible impacts?
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2005.09.02 [05:36] jas_: watch Fox now!
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2005.09.02 [05:36] dx2: fox impressed me with their hurricane coverage
2005.09.02 [05:36] joebob: trebuchets on fox
2005.09.02 [05:36] Midas: Animals have nothing to do with weather and geologic patterns
2005.09.02 [05:36] Alystair: 5:32am, jeeze
2005.09.02 [05:37] Alystair: joe, did you say trebuchets?
2005.09.02 [05:37] freeLurker: 4:32 here
2005.09.02 [05:37] Belladona: anyone watching fox news?
2005.09.02 [05:37] svenge: trebuchets rule!
2005.09.02 [05:37] furiousxgeorge: yeah, Fox has been doing better than CNN
2005.09.02 [05:37] hydroksyde: 21:32 here
2005.09.02 [05:38] acidstars: i think im watching cnn
2005.09.02 [05:38] dx2: Midas: They don't?  You think that cutting more than 60 % of trees in North America has no impact?
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2005.09.02 [05:38] London-UK: Anyone know how big the US reserve of fuel is at this time? I know they stock piled for gulf war 2, but whats it at now?
2005.09.02 [05:38] svenge: it's like a catapault, but gravity powered!
2005.09.02 [05:38] joebob: i probably misspelled it
2005.09.02 [05:38] Belladona: the crew is rescuing a guy who walked away from the superdome and is stuck up on a wall
2005.09.02 [05:39] razorblade: not "junk science"...people just tend to never look at things from the right point of view.  they can only think within their own lifespans
2005.09.02 [05:39] Alystair: svenge, I know, but what are they using them for.
2005.09.02 [05:39] buddylazier: this is highly irregular steve
2005.09.02 [05:39] furiousxgeorge: Fox does have a right wing slant, but that is not why people watch it, it is just better TV than the other newsnets
2005.09.02 [05:39] acidstars: ooh. fox guy rescuing a man
2005.09.02 [05:40] Belladona: yeah
2005.09.02 [05:40] svenge: would you rather him not rescue the dude?
2005.09.02 [05:40] Belladona: ive been waiting to see that
2005.09.02 [05:40] joebob: yeas!
2005.09.02 [05:40] Belladona: no im GLAD
2005.09.02 [05:40] buddylazier: pretty much
2005.09.02 [05:40] joebob: no rescue
2005.09.02 [05:40] * Alystair wishes he had cable :p
2005.09.02 [05:40] buddylazier: he's a young, healthy guy
2005.09.02 [05:41] joebob: Haters!!
2005.09.02 [05:41] acidstars: no, i think its cool theyre doing it.
2005.09.02 [05:41] buddylazier: go save some babes
2005.09.02 [05:41] kyhwana: fox guy?
2005.09.02 [05:42] joebob: ok rescue if his teeth look fine
2005.09.02 [05:42] briareus: razorblade: or they think within their partisan affiliation
2005.09.02 [05:42] * svenge is glad he lives in central WA. only things to worry about are droughts and volcanoes.
2005.09.02 [05:42] DrBoB: the strategic oil reserve would last about 3 days of normal USA consuption
2005.09.02 [05:42] Belladona: hes a whiteboy burned up like a maine lobster
2005.09.02 [05:42] TheRedEye: london: it's supposed to be enough to last the entire country a year of normal usage, from what I understand
2005.09.02 [05:43] dx2: DrBoB: No way
2005.09.02 [05:43] razorblade: no tv here, fox reporter rescuing someone?
2005.09.02 [05:43] Midas: If we were to disappear, everything we have done to the planet, all the damage we have caused, and all the buildings we have created, all of it would disappear within a few tens of thousands of years
2005.09.02 [05:43] DrBoB: yes way!!
2005.09.02 [05:44] jas_: why the fuck do women do THAT to their eyebrows?????
2005.09.02 [05:44] Belladona: yeah razorblade
2005.09.02 [05:44] erulehto: Figure I've heard is about 1 month
2005.09.02 [05:44] razorblade: briareus: exactly
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2005.09.02 [05:44] dx2: DrBoB: US consumption = 20 million barrels per day.  The reserve is ~ 700 BILLION
2005.09.02 [05:45] solcita: svenge: true, but if Rainier goes...
2005.09.02 [05:45] erulehto: filled to 700 million barrels atm, I tihnk
2005.09.02 [05:45] Sollord: dx2: the reserve is only 700mill
2005.09.02 [05:45] Lelio: jesus, where do you put all that oil?
2005.09.02 [05:45] SimonRaven: dx2: which will last ~30 days
2005.09.02 [05:46] briareus: rainier, hell, what if yellowstone goes
2005.09.02 [05:46] svenge: midas: yes
2005.09.02 [05:46] dx2: million sorry
2005.09.02 [05:46] buddylazier: seriously, if the people at the convention center got wind of a reporter rescuing people, they riot on every camera crew
2005.09.02 [05:47] jas_: ooh jerry lewis looks unwell
2005.09.02 [05:47] dx2: SimonRaven: yes, 30 days
2005.09.02 [05:47] London-UK: When are the news channels gonna focus on some 'personal story' and give us a sickly sweet bulletin on how some weak and needy person got heroically rescued. Like that soldier in iraq who was actually being treated in a hospital when they 'busted' her out.
2005.09.02 [05:47] joebob: I will increase traffic: PEAK OIL IS A MYTH
2005.09.02 [05:47] hydroksyde: Lelio: in the ground
2005.09.02 [05:47] furiousxgeorge: the oil is stored in a massive underground cavern...natural cavern IIRC
2005.09.02 [05:47] Midas: Maybe some stone structures would still be around, but everything else would be gone, after a million years, there would be no trace of us, maybe some skeletons and plastic
2005.09.02 [05:47] buddylazier: he shouldn't have done that
2005.09.02 [05:48] dx2: furiousxgeorge: Salt mines IIRC
2005.09.02 [05:48] asd127: Midas: The fact that the ecosystem still exists suggests that we have not exhausted it, but there is a question of "if we can exhaust it" or if it will destroy us first
2005.09.02 [05:48] briareus: razorblade: where you normally lurk?
2005.09.02 [05:48] furiousxgeorge: yeah, salt mines
2005.09.02 [05:49] DrBoB: OK then 30 days
2005.09.02 [05:49] acidstars: i dont think reporters rescuing people would get the CC folks to riot
2005.09.02 [05:49] joebob: DEEP HOT BIOSPHERE
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2005.09.02 [05:49] Midas: Humanity would destroy itself well before we destroy the Earth
2005.09.02 [05:49] Lelio: neat.
2005.09.02 [05:49] acidstars: it's not like theyre slipping them out of the city or something
2005.09.02 [05:49] dx2: asd127: we did destroy ecosystems in some places.  The Oural Sea in Russia is an example
2005.09.02 [05:50] svenge: why would the CC people riot?  they're already "safe" on dry ground...
2005.09.02 [05:50] dx2: the sea is now dead
2005.09.02 [05:50] razorblade: briareus: eh?
2005.09.02 [05:50] asd127: History has been going for a long time, the questions are all the same the only thing changing is the answers
2005.09.02 [05:50] SimonRaven: yup
2005.09.02 [05:50] jas_: wtf is that??
2005.09.02 [05:50] drip: what was that exposion address in scanner?
2005.09.02 [05:50] dx2: Aral sea
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2005.09.02 [05:50] briareus: razorblade: on freenode
2005.09.02 [05:50] svenge: soviets were the worst in terms of eco-damage...
2005.09.02 [05:51] jas_: a big fire?
2005.09.02 [05:51] hydroksyde: we need to drain all the oceans and put it all in bottles so things loike this doens't happen again
2005.09.02 [05:51] dx2: svenge: they were
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2005.09.02 [05:53] paultech: Does anyone know what providers are in DirectNics noc? Maybe we can help bring more connections or take some load
2005.09.02 [05:53] KronicD: ns
2005.09.02 [05:53] jas_: on Fox - what is it?
2005.09.02 [05:53] paultech: No cost of course
2005.09.02 [05:53] furiousxgeorge: that sea is way gone, boats just sitting in the sand with water nowhere in sight
2005.09.02 [05:53] KronicD: its the enviroment or us
2005.09.02 [05:53] kg6eme: very large cloud of smoke, possible explosion at chemical warehouse near convention center
2005.09.02 [05:53] razorblade: briareus: nowhere, just linked into here from slashdot
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2005.09.02 [05:53] kg6eme: "possible hazmat"
2005.09.02 [05:53] Sollord: 3500 starding?
2005.09.02 [05:53] joebob: shock and awe
2005.09.02 [05:54] KronicD: we gotta take that bitch down
2005.09.02 [05:54] kyhwana: explosion?
2005.09.02 [05:55] London-UK: The Aral sea is an immense wake up call
2005.09.02 [05:55] kg6eme: 7500 Charter street
2005.09.02 [05:55] joebob: which feed is this?
2005.09.02 [05:55] dx2: London-UK: Indeed
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2005.09.02 [05:56] dx2: London-UK: But we didn't wake up yet
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2005.09.02 [05:57] kg6eme: LSP Baton Rouge
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2005.09.02 [05:57] * svenge is waiting for the George H.W. Bush + Bill Clinton telethon...
2005.09.02 [05:57] erulehto: I guess the looters have moved to using IEDs now
2005.09.02 [05:57] inter795: Is there enough junk in the water for a fire to actually burn across it?
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2005.09.02 [05:57] fiish: London-UK: Damn straight!
2005.09.02 [05:58] majik: IEDS?
2005.09.02 [05:58] Eclipsed: huge orange explosions
2005.09.02 [05:58] inter795: If hot enough to dry the surface...
2005.09.02 [05:58] dx2: London-UK: I'm firmly convinced that oil production will peak.  Oil prices will go through the roof, and that will limit our thirst for consumption and energy
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2005.09.02 [05:58] kyhwana: inter049: yes
2005.09.02 [05:58] erulehto: improvised explosive devices
2005.09.02 [05:58] Sollord: (Link: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=9600+Carter+St,+New+Orleans,+LA+70127&spn=0.034162,0.047293&hl=en)http://maps.google.com/maps?q=9600+Carter+St,+New+Orleans,+LA+70127&spn=0.034162,0.047293&hl=en
2005.09.02 [05:58] svenge: ied = improvised explosive device (aka iraqi road-side bombs)
2005.09.02 [05:58] BaCkBuRn: ooh we get the guys email address
2005.09.02 [05:58] furiousxgeorge: oil has to peak sometime
2005.09.02 [05:59] kg6eme: explosion across the river from the TOC
2005.09.02 [05:59] Midas: Look, the Earth has gone through dozens of "Snowball" eras, and has survived through a handful of Orpheus/Theia implacts, the Orpheus/Theia impact especially, considering it turned the total surface of the Earth into motol rock
2005.09.02 [05:59] Alystair: ugh
2005.09.02 [06:00] inter795: Mmm. Thats not good.
2005.09.02 [06:00] Midas: molton^
2005.09.02 [06:00] Midas: molten
2005.09.02 [06:00] Midas: ba
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2005.09.02 [06:00] skullaria: our local newspaper says that most of our gas places are now out of regular
2005.09.02 [06:00] briareus: dx2: people were firmly convinced the world was flat, or that going 35 miles an hour would kill you. you may of course be right :)
2005.09.02 [06:00] Eclipsed: hmm... I see 'hazmat' on scanner channel.. and within a minute CNN has broken in to talk about explosions
2005.09.02 [06:01] furiousxgeorge: The earth survived, doesn't mean we would
2005.09.02 [06:01] Midas: it's late, spelling isn't mandatory
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2005.09.02 [06:01] NathanJY: Very true
2005.09.02 [06:01] freeLurker: how long have you guys been on this topic ;)
2005.09.02 [06:01] briareus: freeLurker: too long
2005.09.02 [06:01] drip: caller on cnn saying railroad cars blew up
2005.09.02 [06:02] Midas: I never said we would survive, I simply said the Earth and life would
2005.09.02 [06:02] Chrisbert: Oh god, fires breaking out in SW New L
2005.09.02 [06:02] NathanJY: In the past few decades they've uncovered evidence of many crater impacts on earth that were previously unknown
2005.09.02 [06:02] dx2: briareus:  But this time it's geologists talking about it.  Oil discoveries since the 80s are minimal
2005.09.02 [06:02] Chrisbert: er.... New Orleans
2005.09.02 [06:03] Chrisbert: railroad cars exploding, on fire
2005.09.02 [06:03] NathanJY: meteor
2005.09.02 [06:03] dx2: briareus: thank you for sharing your ignorance :P
2005.09.02 [06:04] svenge: al-queda finally owned up to bombing london; rest of world says "duh"
2005.09.02 [06:04] Chrisbert: unknown what's in the cars
2005.09.02 [06:04] furiousxgeorge: right on midas
2005.09.02 [06:05] TheRedEye: okay, are any radio feeds live right now? I can't seem to get anything.
2005.09.02 [06:05] Midas: Which is my whole point, there is nothing we can do to this planet that it couldn't just shrug it off and laugh
2005.09.02 [06:05] ewok: Eclipsed: hazmat handles chemicals/gas
2005.09.02 [06:05] acidstars: where are you hearing that?
2005.09.02 [06:05] London-UK: I work in the venture capital industry, there are several alternative energy funds set up just this year to stimulate growth in the alternative energy sector. The government and oil companies are using guaranteed prices on future energy contracts to take some of the risk out of investing...
2005.09.02 [06:05] joebob: oil prices may go up, heh, they will go up, but it wont be because of a real and permanent shortage.
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2005.09.02 [06:06] BaCkBuRn: damn they censored the email addy :P
2005.09.02 [06:06] dx2: London-UK:  That's good
2005.09.02 [06:06] inter795: Well, from reading that article about "NO becoming the biggest toxic dump in the world in event of a hurricane" (or words to that effect) A large fire is a particularly worrying though...
2005.09.02 [06:07] acidstars: nevermind. im on cnn now.
2005.09.02 [06:07] erulehto: once oil gets too expensive, solar then becomes cheaper, and so people use solar, etc.
2005.09.02 [06:07] acidstars: err watching it.
2005.09.02 [06:07] London-UK: First sensible thing Ive seen in years
2005.09.02 [06:07] pinkish: hydro
2005.09.02 [06:07] dx2: London-UK: me too
2005.09.02 [06:07] kyhwana: What're the two different feeds from the scanner?
2005.09.02 [06:08] pinkish: The next is hydro
2005.09.02 [06:08] joebob: old wells keep coming up with more oil after they are thought empty
2005.09.02 [06:08] SimonRaven: inter795: URI?
2005.09.02 [06:08] majik: FOURTEEN people have died and 15 were missing after Typhoon Talim walloped Taiwan and the east coast of China, causing widespread damage.
2005.09.02 [06:08] dx2: London-UK: I'm not sure if this oil shock will ever recede...
2005.09.02 [06:09] briareus: dx2: huh? i did say you may be right. and by the way, while oil discoveries are minimal, the existing fields are huge. someday, it will run out. thats why i said you may be right
2005.09.02 [06:10] svenge: solar hasn't improved in decades, why would it now?  and enviro-nuts complain against hydro-electric and nuclear...
2005.09.02 [06:10] postmodern: i heard the Saudi's just hit peak production with their oil fields
2005.09.02 [06:10] Eclipsed: "
2005.09.02 [06:10] inter795: (Link: http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_neworleans.html)http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_neworleans.html
2005.09.02 [06:10] asd127: CNN says "the city is gone"
2005.09.02 [06:10] Eclipsed: "The city is gone"
2005.09.02 [06:10] Chrisbert: Oh god.... this cop they interviewed on CNN, "the city is gone"
2005.09.02 [06:11] dx2: briareus:  The question is not whether they will run out or not.  The question is if the production can match demand
2005.09.02 [06:11] SimonRaven: inter795: thanks
2005.09.02 [06:11] briareus: svenge: solar is good enough for space
2005.09.02 [06:11] skullaria: I heard that
2005.09.02 [06:11] Eclipsed: that's quote that's going to spread
2005.09.02 [06:11] inter795: np
2005.09.02 [06:11] pinkish: City has been gone
2005.09.02 [06:11] Dopefish`: I saw the pics and it doesnt seem that bad
2005.09.02 [06:12] London-UK: No, heading towards 80 bucks per barrel... middle east still restless, when does the new pipeline come on stream that goes through Afghanistan?
2005.09.02 [06:12] skullaria: looks awful to me
2005.09.02 [06:12] Dopefish`: only a few pics i saw are flooded areas
2005.09.02 [06:12] NathanJY: who is transcribing the scanner?
2005.09.02 [06:12] hydroksyde: maybe one day tourists will visit the ruins of new orleans
2005.09.02 [06:12] svenge: in space you have one self-contained system getting uninterrupted solar power 24/7 w/o cloudy periods or night...
2005.09.02 [06:12] Dopefish`: the rest of the actual city seem just wind damages
2005.09.02 [06:13] Chrisbert: This is like Beruit with water, but worse
2005.09.02 [06:13] erulehto: oil is weird; but we can use organic waste to generate oil
2005.09.02 [06:13] dx2: briareus: Demand is bigger than offer?  Well price increase. Demand increases?  Price goes up.  Isn't that simple enough?
2005.09.02 [06:13] pinkish: Like Sunken city out here
2005.09.02 [06:14] erulehto: bleh.. that made no sense
2005.09.02 [06:14] asd127: "it is unknown if the cloud is hazmat or not"
2005.09.02 [06:14] dx2: London-UK: They won't pass a pipeline through Afghanistan afterall
2005.09.02 [06:14] briareus: svenge: yeah, getting blasted with dust moving faster than bullets. the point is, solar is good enough for space, and its alot better than in the 70s here on the ground
2005.09.02 [06:14] skullaria: oil is at 80?
2005.09.02 [06:14] asd127: "bright orange glow off in the distance"
2005.09.02 [06:15] postmodern: it's highly dubious when we invade areas that have large amounts of oil, just in time when we start having shortages, and all of a sudden that war that was not for oil, suddenly becomes highly convenient and welcome
2005.09.02 [06:15] paultech: pinkish: are you at the office?
2005.09.02 [06:15] Chrisbert: "been hearing gunfire all night"
2005.09.02 [06:16] joebob: i thought it went back under 70
2005.09.02 [06:16] furiousxgeorge: "been hearing gunfire all night"
2005.09.02 [06:16] dx2: postmodern: Exactly
2005.09.02 [06:17] postmodern: dx2, makes you wonder
2005.09.02 [06:17] dx2: postmodern: People in the White house know what they are doing
2005.09.02 [06:17] Chrisbert: it's Falluja in the continental US
2005.09.02 [06:17] briareus: dx2: i never said it wasnt. you call me ignorant, then decide you know everything i know. whatever.
2005.09.02 [06:18] inter795: svenge - As I recall it, Oil companies have been notorious for stymmying the growth of alternate forms of energy, buying them off and never developing them.
2005.09.02 [06:18] svenge: if we invaded iraq for oil, then where is it?  it's not here, or else the supply-demand would not be so FUBAR...
2005.09.02 [06:18] acidstars: this is all some fucked up dream induced by too much coffee and contact highs. and a pot brownie. or six.
2005.09.02 [06:18] furiousxgeorge: this makes falluja look like a walk in the park
2005.09.02 [06:19] postmodern: dx2, i'd say they are running alittle rough shot over everybody else for short term gains
2005.09.02 [06:19] dx2: briareus:  Read about Peak oil and oil discoveries instead of talking nonsense!
2005.09.02 [06:20] aSmig: FN~NathanJY: volunteers. if you feel up to it, sign up for a shift: (Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Transcription_signup_list)http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Transcription_signup_list
2005.09.02 [06:20] pinkish: When is the last time anyone in here laughed?
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2005.09.02 [06:20] solcita: Not too long ago, really.
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2005.09.02 [06:20] erulehto: inter795: another idea is that they're buying them to use once they run out of oil
2005.09.02 [06:20] Midas: Jesus, the railroad cars, most of those carry hazardous cargo
2005.09.02 [06:21] Belladona: 20 mns ago
2005.09.02 [06:21] furiousxgeorge: flare?
2005.09.02 [06:21] paultech: pinkish: Its important to laugh
2005.09.02 [06:21] dx2: postmodern: Bah, they want to preserve the american way of life...
2005.09.02 [06:21] inter795: erulehto: Yes, that is the point of course.
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2005.09.02 [06:22] pinkish: Very
2005.09.02 [06:22] briareus: dx2: quit being a prick, WHAT nonsense have I uttered? i havent given an opinion on anything. shut the fuck up.
2005.09.02 [06:22] postmodern: what's this about rail-road cars
2005.09.02 [06:22] colonelPyat: on #interdictor-scanner2 - explosion at a warehouse full of chemicals near the convention center
2005.09.02 [06:23] paultech: Im just trying to help
2005.09.02 [06:23] acidstars: not long ago. i learned at an early age that laughter is the key to maintaining sanity
2005.09.02 [06:23] postmodern: dx2, ha, that old lie
2005.09.02 [06:23] briareus: colonelPyat: drap
2005.09.02 [06:23] NathanJY: well whoever it is, isn't doing it now
2005.09.02 [06:23] Midas: It's on the scanners people
2005.09.02 [06:24] pinkish: Sol, you did LJ abuse, I know you have learned that laughing is ness to not go insane :x
2005.09.02 [06:24] pinkish: hehe
2005.09.02 [06:24] dx2: postmodern: indeed
2005.09.02 [06:24] * svenge has had enough depressing crap for one night...
2005.09.02 [06:24] paultech: Providing bandwidth and VoIP to people
2005.09.02 [06:25] solcita: pinkish: between that and my day job...
2005.09.02 [06:25] postmodern: dx2, the oil will run out, but we will be stuck here, with everybody pissed at us
2005.09.02 [06:25] briareus: Midas: which one? Im on the LSP one, mostly quiet
2005.09.02 [06:25] hydroksyde: these are transcripts of audio scanners right? are they streamed on the net anywhere?
2005.09.02 [06:26] pinkish: haha no kidding
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2005.09.02 [06:26] solcita: NathanJY: what are you talking about?
2005.09.02 [06:26] paultech: Used up alot of bandwidth already but Im glad we can help
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2005.09.02 [06:27] briareus: hydroksyde: (Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Radio_Info)http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Radio_Info
2005.09.02 [06:27] acidstars: lj abuse. oh my.
2005.09.02 [06:27] Midas: (Link: http://216.14.30.229:8001/)http://216.14.30.229:8001/
2005.09.02 [06:27] erulehto: the tech exists for affordable power and oil, it just needs a different support structure
2005.09.02 [06:27] NathanJY: transcribing of the first scanner
2005.09.02 [06:27] solcita: It's been a long time.
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2005.09.02 [06:28] dx2: postmodern: Oil won't run out, it will just become more and more expensive, and it will slowly strangle our energy-hungry economies
2005.09.02 [06:28] NathanJY: I'm listening to the audio feed and it's not updating
2005.09.02 [06:28] dx2: (I think)
2005.09.02 [06:28] hydroksyde: briareus:: thanks
2005.09.02 [06:28] solcita: NathanJY: the first scanner went down, I think. They haven't been able to get back to it.
2005.09.02 [06:29] pinkish: acid: yes, lj abuse. boo
2005.09.02 [06:29] pinkish: !
2005.09.02 [06:29] skullaria: the city has fallen
2005.09.02 [06:29] solcita: If you want to transcribe it, go ahead.
2005.09.02 [06:29] inter795: erulehto: Sure - different structure meaning... not greed. :)
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2005.09.02 [06:30] NathanJY: Then what am I listening to?
2005.09.02 [06:30] acidstars: lj abuse shot my pa.
2005.09.02 [06:30] Alystair: this is too bizzare for me
2005.09.02 [06:30] acidstars: or something.
2005.09.02 [06:30] pinkish: haha
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2005.09.02 [06:30] solcita: NathanJY: hellifiknow.
2005.09.02 [06:30] NathanJY: no, I'm just curious
2005.09.02 [06:30] razorblade: dx2: oil will eventually run out. can't replant dinosaurs and wait another 65 million years
2005.09.02 [06:31] Belladona: 60% of police officers in some precincts not showing up for duty
2005.09.02 [06:31] aSmig: FN~NathanJY: scanner 1 is offline at the moment, continue reconnect attempts
2005.09.02 [06:31] joebob: how has city fallen?
2005.09.02 [06:31] solcita: I kust know that Pelican_Jock hasn't been able to get back to it.
2005.09.02 [06:32] erulehto: price it too high, you kill your golden goose
2005.09.02 [06:32] Dopefish`: holy crap
2005.09.02 [06:32] Dopefish`: yahoo has .com domains for $1.99
2005.09.02 [06:32] pinkish: Ever seen that cartoon of a dog dressed like a cowboy and the capiton says... somebody shot my paw?
2005.09.02 [06:32] hydroksyde: razorblade: unless we invent time travel
2005.09.02 [06:33] dx2: razorblade: exactly
2005.09.02 [06:33] pinkish: or something
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2005.09.02 [06:34] briareus: dx2: sorry you got so flustered at my choice of words. i was essentially agreeing with you. what i said basically was, you may be wrong, you may be right. no offense was meant.
2005.09.02 [06:34] joebob: OIL IS NOT MADE OF SQUASHED DINOSAURS
2005.09.02 [06:34] NathanJY: artplz.com's feed is working is working
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2005.09.02 [06:34] acidstars: yes. i have. and something. unfortunately.
2005.09.02 [06:34] spartanking: city is farked, chemical fires and explosions in the ail district
2005.09.02 [06:34] skullaria: the city has fallen - what the reporter just said on cnn
2005.09.02 [06:34] spartanking: rail
2005.09.02 [06:34] erulehto: razorblade: thermal depolymerization can create oil, carbon, etc. from organic waste
2005.09.02 [06:35] Chrisbert: Come on, listen to some of these cops. They practically have a form of combat stress.
2005.09.02 [06:35] Chrisbert: constant strain, constant threat
2005.09.02 [06:35] pinkish: Oil is made of squashed everything
2005.09.02 [06:35] pinkish: Acid: puns are funny, you can admit it
2005.09.02 [06:36] Chrisbert: people are SNAPPING
2005.09.02 [06:36] Midas: Compressed Natural Gas is your friend
2005.09.02 [06:36] Alystair: QUESTION TO ALL: Is there a website that aggregates all the information spreading through here? I don't have the time to look into this now but I want to know what's happening
2005.09.02 [06:37] pinkish: farked or fucked?
2005.09.02 [06:37] pinkish: Aly, several
2005.09.02 [06:37] hydroksyde: there is
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2005.09.02 [06:37] hydroksyde: wiki.nola-intel.com
2005.09.02 [06:37] pinkish: the wiki, someone else is collecting links...
2005.09.02 [06:37] razorblade: hydroksyde: if time travel is possible you wouldn't be able to change the past, time is circular (course all theoritical but the accepted theory at the moment)
2005.09.02 [06:38] inter795: Did one of those cops just say "I received an email saying "do not awaken the oil[or something]" ?
2005.09.02 [06:38] Belladona: Alystair: nope
2005.09.02 [06:38] majik: I copy pasted some transcribe to a friend
2005.09.02 [06:38] majik: (05:46) · +Perry · is this some sort of new orleans emergency services irc roleplay
2005.09.02 [06:38] dx2: briareus: oh I don't take it as an offence, it's just that it's not a myth... I'm actually a geologist... and we study the movement of fluids through porous media (well soil/rock), and ALL water wells go through a "peak production" phase... and it's the same for oil wells.  Ask any geologist what he thinks about peak oil
2005.09.02 [06:38] Eclipsed: SOYLENT GREEN IS, though
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2005.09.02 [06:39] Sollord: We can pull oil out of rock but will have to kill the enviro nuts to do it
2005.09.02 [06:39] London-UK: Its all to do with cost of drilling, for example, there are hundreds on inland oil wells in the UK, surveyed and capped because its totally uneconomical to open them up to drilling... since oil price is not sufficiently high for such small rigs. As price of oil rockets, and if it stays there, it will become economical to exploit them.
2005.09.02 [06:39] Alystair: oh neat, wiki for this
2005.09.02 [06:40] razorblade: yeah i know, just making a poing that it will run out
2005.09.02 [06:40] furiousxgeorge: haha irc roleplay
2005.09.02 [06:40] pinkish: hehe
2005.09.02 [06:41] erulehto: between that and fission plants we can go another 1K years
2005.09.02 [06:41] spartanking: CNN reporters r losing their cool, snaping on air
2005.09.02 [06:41] pinkish: Yes, we are rping a national disaster because that'll ever happen, ever. ick.
2005.09.02 [06:42] dx2: London-UK: exactly, same for Canada... there are HUGE reserves of oil... but they are in tar sands
2005.09.02 [06:42] Sefriel: Morning all
2005.09.02 [06:42] erulehto: we get fusion going in that time, and we're set for long enough to get out of the gravity well and into space
2005.09.02 [06:42] majik: Its a something awful irc channel so...
2005.09.02 [06:42] briareus: spartanking: good
2005.09.02 [06:43] Sollord: There snapping at all the politics and bakc slaaping the feds are giving each toher
2005.09.02 [06:43] pinkish: Spartan, the first night the weather guy and the chick got in to a pissing contest on air
2005.09.02 [06:43] briareus: spartanking: lets the people know this shit is for real and not a movie
2005.09.02 [06:44] dx2: London-UK: The problem is cost to extract it.  If it takes more energy to pump the oil out than the energy you get burning it... well you are pretty much screewd
2005.09.02 [06:44] Sefriel: any brits around? I set up #interdictor-uk last night for aggregating us :D
2005.09.02 [06:44] joebob: hydrocarbs were included in the earth during its formation. the earth was not fully molten contrary to pop belief
2005.09.02 [06:44] acidstars: i want to see footage
2005.09.02 [06:44] pinkish: He threw papers at her, she snapped at him
2005.09.02 [06:45] pinkish: it was fantastic
2005.09.02 [06:45] solcita: OMG.
2005.09.02 [06:45] solcita: I wanna see that.
2005.09.02 [06:45] Midas: The fact that a natural disaster in the United States that isn't being addressed is starting to sink in with the reporters...
2005.09.02 [06:45] Eclipsed: [11:47] kg6eme: 451 - roll a plate, <deleted>    .. what is 'deleted' ?
2005.09.02 [06:46] pinkish: haha
2005.09.02 [06:46] skullaria: pinkish, I saw that  "IF YOU WOULD JUST LET ME TALK"
2005.09.02 [06:46] pinkish: That was right before katrina hit NOLA
2005.09.02 [06:46] dx2: Midas: haha
2005.09.02 [06:47] Chrisbert: convention center:  "modern day genocide"
2005.09.02 [06:47] Alystair: are the scanner channels automated?
2005.09.02 [06:47] joebob: there is lots of petro deep in earth, it takes a long time to bubble up
2005.09.02 [06:47] skullaria: I think Shep was cryign earlier.  I think the reporters are really upset.
2005.09.02 [06:48] NathanJY: Midas: isn't being addressed?
2005.09.02 [06:48] inter795: pinkish: Funny when you see through the cozy veil of the media, no?
2005.09.02 [06:48] hydroksyde: dx2:: it's more economic than the actual energy. Energy is lost anyway through conversion.
2005.09.02 [06:49] Sollord: I'm waiting for on of them to ask what planet are you living on cause in this one this is hell and it's only getting worse or something like that
2005.09.02 [06:49] London-UK: Thats true dx2, but if oil goes right up to... oh I dunno 100 bucks per barrel... then maybe these small fields will be economical (shudder)
2005.09.02 [06:49] solcita: Alystair: no, they're real people transcribing.
2005.09.02 [06:50] Alystair: or is someone sitting there jotting everything down
2005.09.02 [06:50] Alystair: jesus
2005.09.02 [06:50] solcita: Yep.
2005.09.02 [06:50] Alystair: now that's effort.
2005.09.02 [06:50] Sefriel: It's going to have to crash soon, because of people being squeezed out by the prices
2005.09.02 [06:51] Midas: Addressed with words, but not action
2005.09.02 [06:51] acidstars: one of the cnn chicks broke down and bawled like the first day
2005.09.02 [06:51] pinkish: Inter, I haven't been able to see anything but way beyond the veil since long before Katrina got beefy and took out the south
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2005.09.02 [06:51] ewok: "MSNBC reporting explosions near the Superdome. CNN reporting thick smoke billowing from the area"
2005.09.02 [06:51] spartanking: good the american gov't is an appalling joke I can't beleive how terribly mismanaged this has been, total chaos
2005.09.02 [06:52] joebob: they could start pumping cali again
2005.09.02 [06:52] Alystair: this room has too much politics going on in it x_X
2005.09.02 [06:52] ewok: anyone have more info?
2005.09.02 [06:52] inter795: Where are you at, pinkish?
2005.09.02 [06:52] pinkish: I have way too many friends in the military, even at a very famous prison, to buy it anymore
2005.09.02 [06:53] dx2: hydroksyde: yes.  But since oil is used for energy, it it takes more energy to pump it out than the energy it gives, you should use oil as a raw material for plastics than an energy source
2005.09.02 [06:53] joebob: whats going on
2005.09.02 [06:53] acidstars: she was walking around NOLA. and talking to survivors. and was talking to that one guy who was holding his wife's hand and she got ripped away
2005.09.02 [06:53] inter795: Ah, I see.
2005.09.02 [06:54] joebob: is there a fire or something?
2005.09.02 [06:54] Sollord: In michigan there launching a oil and gas exploration program
2005.09.02 [06:54] Chrisbert: by the time any "help" get to that convention center, it's going to be a violent bloodbath
2005.09.02 [06:54] sigtom: explosion at a warehouse, unknow if its hazmat
2005.09.02 [06:54] acidstars: she was hot. i would have left my husband and run off with her.
2005.09.02 [06:54] acidstars: err.
2005.09.02 [06:55] colonelPyat: on #interdictor-scanner2 - explosion at a warehouse full of chemicals near the convention center
2005.09.02 [06:55] spartanking: chemical fires in the rail yards
2005.09.02 [06:55] kyhwana: it's unknown if it's hazmat
2005.09.02 [06:55] Chrisbert: "we need to get out of here today"
2005.09.02 [06:55] Belladona: jesus
2005.09.02 [06:56] buddylazier: hrm
2005.09.02 [06:56] joebob: nfw! ogod
2005.09.02 [06:56] buddylazier: CNN is talking to a guy at the convention center
2005.09.02 [06:56] dx2: hydroksyde: People don't seem to realize how much energy they consume...
2005.09.02 [06:57] ewok: colonelPyat: ty
2005.09.02 [06:57] joebob: all those people trapped
2005.09.02 [06:57] buddylazier: and he hasn't said anything about that
2005.09.02 [06:57] spartanking: hazmat has been called in, unknown if they can get to scene
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2005.09.02 [06:57] colonelPyat: they are f**ked
2005.09.02 [06:57] Sefriel: does anybody know a COSHH rating for that warehouse/area?
2005.09.02 [06:57] acidstars: they need to get those people out of there. but we know that.
2005.09.02 [06:58] acidstars: fuck.
2005.09.02 [06:58] skullaria: There is no reason for those folks to be that trapped.
2005.09.02 [06:58] pinkish: When is the last time y'all watched something other than cnn/fox news/etc?
2005.09.02 [06:58] inter795: Ahh rail yards, thats what they said..
2005.09.02 [06:58] Sefriel: or a CoMAH?
2005.09.02 [06:58] furiousxgeorge: it does not appear there is any official responders at all at the convention center
2005.09.02 [06:58] pinkish: Just doing a poll
2005.09.02 [06:58] joebob: they were brandishing guns at people that tried to go over the bridge earlier
2005.09.02 [06:59] furiousxgeorge: people are on their own
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2005.09.02 [06:59] Chrisbert: there aren't
2005.09.02 [06:59] pinkish: ahem
2005.09.02 [06:59] joebob: they told them to go to the center
2005.09.02 [06:59] dx2: pinkish: wwltv has nice feeds
2005.09.02 [06:59] WillRawls: (Link: http://willrawls.blogspot.com)http://willrawls.blogspot.com - New Orleans / Katrina URLs blogged from the various #interdictor channels for the last few hours (last time for a while, going to bed, if someone else feels like it, please recycle in channel for a while)
2005.09.02 [06:59] acidstars: ive been watching cnn/msnbc or using it as background noise at least... since 10:30a yesterday
2005.09.02 [07:00] joebob: thats why they went
2005.09.02 [07:00] Chrisbert: furiousxgeorge: no officials, no food, no water, no medical supplies, no airflow, no sanitation
2005.09.02 [07:00] speakit: anyone fast enough in morse able to understand the morese?
2005.09.02 [07:00] pinkish: haha something other than the news
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2005.09.02 [07:01] Sollord: They better rent that big 747 forest fire tanker and put out that hazmat fire
2005.09.02 [07:01] pinkish: like say... sitcom, movie, etc?
2005.09.02 [07:01] pinkish: whoops
2005.09.02 [07:01] acidstars: and the day before, i watched/background noised for uhm. 19 hours.
2005.09.02 [07:01] solcita: speakit: it isn't morse
2005.09.02 [07:01] joebob: and now they are just f-ing them over
2005.09.02 [07:02] Chrisbert: furiousxgeorge: and at least 10 dead bodies, including two children or babies
2005.09.02 [07:02] pinkish: bold freak
2005.09.02 [07:02] acidstars: two babies.
2005.09.02 [07:02] inetd_: it's nice that homeland security was set up for just such an event, and with a 30+ billion dollar budget, they've just been sitting around twiddling their thumbs the entire time.
2005.09.02 [07:02] acidstars: both dead of dehydration.
2005.09.02 [07:03] solcita: speakit: it's scanner sync code, I belive
2005.09.02 [07:03] Sefriel: problem with oil fire is you'd need to use large amounts of foam more than anything else
2005.09.02 [07:03] dx2: inetd_: the problem is too many cooks in the kitchen
2005.09.02 [07:03] acidstars: because some asshole couldnt be bothered to make sure these people had water.
2005.09.02 [07:04] furiousxgeorge: People at center banded together to get thugs with guns out, nice
2005.09.02 [07:04] inter795: I am in australia, an australian ini NO who managed to call their family here relayed that those buses that had been commandeered by the military, were originally tourist buses and that the tourists had been kicked off and told to walk to the convention centre. (Getting murdered and raped along the way)
2005.09.02 [07:04] asd127: DHS is a failure
2005.09.02 [07:04] phreeB: NOTE: WWL will resume its live broadcast at approximately 5:30 a.m. CST
2005.09.02 [07:05] Babylonian: inetd_:  can you believe they didn't even have a plan
2005.09.02 [07:05] Sefriel: and with all the flood waters, it's likely to float to people and kill them
2005.09.02 [07:05] asd127: it screwed up FEMA
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2005.09.02 [07:06] Chrisbert: apparently, they've run off the gunmen
2005.09.02 [07:06] inetd_: that's what homeland security was made for, though
2005.09.02 [07:06] buddylazier: dept. of horse shit
2005.09.02 [07:06] inetd_: to get everyone under one department
2005.09.02 [07:06] joebob: they had to band because the cops leave at night
2005.09.02 [07:07] pinkish: okie dokie
2005.09.02 [07:07] dx2: inter795: nice
2005.09.02 [07:07] Sollord: Hmm 12year old girl raped with both ankels broken... I hope none of these worthless people get re-elected.
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2005.09.02 [07:08] razorblade: buddylazier: nice, have to quote you on that one later
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2005.09.02 [07:08] ewok: Sollord: link?
2005.09.02 [07:08] Sefriel: Anyone tell me how to ignore parts/joins?
2005.09.02 [07:08] spartanking: New Orleans is done
2005.09.02 [07:08] briareus: asd127: FEMA always was and is and will be a primarily martial law agency, not a disaster recovery agency. we lost our house to Andrew, and they were worthless then too
2005.09.02 [07:08] acidstars: another baby dead.
2005.09.02 [07:09] Chrisbert: god please let this be a political day of reckoning
2005.09.02 [07:09] majik: Unable to Just Stand By, Thousands Sign Up to Help
2005.09.02 [07:09] Feonix762: Sefriel, what client are you using?
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2005.09.02 [07:10] Sefriel: mIRC standard
2005.09.02 [07:10] colonelPyat: chemical warehouses map - (Link: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=chemical+warehouse+in+new+orleans&ll=29.945687,-90.075016&spn=0.035892,0.064090&num=10&start=0&hl=en)http://maps.google.com/maps?q=chemical+warehouse+in+new+orleans&ll=29.945687,-90.075016&spn=0.035892,0.064090&num=10&start=0&hl=en
2005.09.02 [07:10] dx2: Sefriel: Irc options
2005.09.02 [07:10] Midas: the Administration as well as FEMA and the military are going to have their collective asses kicked when this is all over
2005.09.02 [07:10] majik: (Link: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-lagive2sep02,1,7173636.story?coll=la-headlines-nation)http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-lagive2sep02,1,7173636.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
2005.09.02 [07:11] Alystair: I also want to know
2005.09.02 [07:11] Alystair: how to do that in mirc
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2005.09.02 [07:11] pinkish: Now tell me how to ignore it in Trillian
2005.09.02 [07:11] dx2: Sefriel: go to the section "irc"
2005.09.02 [07:11] Feonix762: I have no idea, I'm assuming it's somewhere in settings.. I use xChat.. sorry
2005.09.02 [07:12] asd127: fires and burning at a railroad car now
2005.09.02 [07:12] pinkish: because I don't think I can
2005.09.02 [07:13] dx2: then the tab "options", its there
2005.09.02 [07:13] Chrisbert: Midas: I hate to say it, but this is bringing us closer to the "coming revolution"
2005.09.02 [07:13] speakit: what is a CAD System ?
2005.09.02 [07:13] Sefriel: thanks a lot
2005.09.02 [07:13] kyhwana: whta's a "10-19"?
2005.09.02 [07:13] briareus: Chrisbert: i totally agree
2005.09.02 [07:13] erulehto: computer aided design
2005.09.02 [07:13] dx2: speakit: computer assited design"
2005.09.02 [07:13] solcita: CAD: Computer Operated Dispatch
2005.09.02 [07:14] dx2: assisted
2005.09.02 [07:14] London-UK: isnt there a database of which buildings are hazmat in the city?
2005.09.02 [07:14] solcita: In this instance
2005.09.02 [07:14] skullaria: I think so too
2005.09.02 [07:14] Midas: Let's hope it does, we are long overdo for one
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2005.09.02 [07:14] inetd_: under IRC, it's the events button
2005.09.02 [07:14] speakit: kyhwana: (Link: http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm)http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm
2005.09.02 [07:14] drip: its rail cars
2005.09.02 [07:14] inetd_: options/irc/events
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2005.09.02 [07:15] ewok: *aided dispatch
2005.09.02 [07:15] asd127: "are we releasing busses to the superdome?" "right now there is nobdoy at the dome for security when these busses arrive"
2005.09.02 [07:15] asd127: unbelievable
2005.09.02 [07:15] ewok: er nm
2005.09.02 [07:15] Pete_O: Pete O checking in from Oxford UK
2005.09.02 [07:16] briareus: 10-19 = Nothing for you, return to base
2005.09.02 [07:16] briareus: 10-19 = Nothing for you, return to base
2005.09.02 [07:17] briareus: (Link: http://home.att.net/~wizardoz/cbmw/10codes.html)http://home.att.net/~wizardoz/cbmw/10codes.html
2005.09.02 [07:17] Chrisbert: this is the result of political decisions, and the real world consequences are tragic.
2005.09.02 [07:17] Pete_O: What's the latest guys?
2005.09.02 [07:17] Chrisbert: it wasn't the storm damage itself that was so cataclysmic...
2005.09.02 [07:17] dx2: Chrisbert: yep
2005.09.02 [07:17] Midas: me and my buddies are ready "hugs M-82"
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2005.09.02 [07:18] ewok: APCO 10-Codes vary between localities
2005.09.02 [07:18] Chrisbert: it was the utter lack of resources to deal with the refugees
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2005.09.02 [07:18] spartanking: no security at superdome for the buses RIGHT NOW!!! unbeleivable!
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2005.09.02 [07:18] Chrisbert: the utter lack of communication and coordination
2005.09.02 [07:18] joebob: they have resources
2005.09.02 [07:18] joebob: tehy had them
2005.09.02 [07:18] fuol: here come the cavalry
2005.09.02 [07:18] joebob: yeah it was the lack of leadership
2005.09.02 [07:19] Midas: And ACTION don't forget lack of Action!
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2005.09.02 [07:19] Babylonian: BREAKING Explosions in New Orleans near the dome
2005.09.02 [07:20] Babylonian: MSNBC
2005.09.02 [07:20] briareus: spartanking: the Natl Guard has been with those buses all day
2005.09.02 [07:20] skullaria: lol - was listening to Chis Rock tonight saying he thought Bush brought that girl to Coby Bryants room and bush killed lacy peterson - anything to divert us from being interested in the Iraq war.
2005.09.02 [07:20] snarky|away: explosions?
2005.09.02 [07:21] * erulehto *sigh*
2005.09.02 [07:21] dx2: Chrisbert: I think the BIGGEST mistake that the N.O. mayor did was to fail to secure enough transportation to evacuate everyone that didn't have a car... they just said "everyone evacuate... if you have no car, you are screwed"
2005.09.02 [07:21] solcita: Babylonian: you're about 10 minutes late. ;)
2005.09.02 [07:21] Midas: QUICK someone wake up the guys in charge of the webcam!
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2005.09.02 [07:22] *** #interdictor-chat: +Soms 
2005.09.02 [07:22] calenth: the FBI has a proven track record of competence
2005.09.02 [07:22] spartanking: t12 lol
2005.09.02 [07:22] sueil: t12 rofl
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2005.09.02 [07:22] *** #interdictor-chat was created on Thu Sep 01 18:35:06 2005.
2005.09.02 [07:22] Kirtan: Any news about the BLASTS at the waterfront?
2005.09.02 [07:22] NathanJY: You say [insert american politican entity] suxxxxxxx and everyone agrees, someone says that's silly and you're labelled a 'troll'
2005.09.02 [07:22] postmodern: NathanJY, it is you who is being childish, the other people here are very tolerent and use supporting facts for their statements
2005.09.02 [07:22] SimonRaven: s/in&/
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2005.09.02 [07:23] inetd_: lol t12
2005.09.02 [07:23] Midas: I don't think it's a good idea to be linking to sites that condone software pirating (not like I have any problem with that;) ) I just don't think that the media will like it
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2005.09.02 [07:23] Babylonian: DHS is killing people with their negligence
2005.09.02 [07:23] Wohali: Can someone mirror it elsewhere?
2005.09.02 [07:23] sueil: who cares what the media likes?
2005.09.02 [07:24] spartanking: Kirtan the say it was a plant with oil derivitives and r letting it burn out
2005.09.02 [07:24] gauss: the rapidshare link worked ok
2005.09.02 [07:24] t12: wohali: (Link: http://www.whosestreets.com/nagin.mp3)http://www.whosestreets.com/nagin.mp3
2005.09.02 [07:24] wemmi: what is main radio channel?
2005.09.02 [07:24] postmodern: this whole situation reminds me of Murphies Law
2005.09.02 [07:25] NathanJY: postmodern: Yeah, talking about nail clippers is totally valid criticism with supporting facts.
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2005.09.02 [07:25] joebob: are there any brits here?
2005.09.02 [07:25] Midas: the RapidShare link works fine, unlimited downloads, it's just that there is a timer
2005.09.02 [07:25] Midas:  (Link: http://rapidshare.de/files/4632564/nagin.mp3.html)http://rapidshare.de/files/4632564/nagin.mp3.html
2005.09.02 [07:26] Wohali: t12: Is that the cleaned up version?
2005.09.02 [07:26] furiousxgeorge: there is nothing wrong with linking to a legal torrent, no matter where it is, besides, the file is illegal as no one here has copyright on it neway
2005.09.02 [07:26] t12: unknown
2005.09.02 [07:26] colonelPyat: yep
2005.09.02 [07:26] t12: url to cleaned up version
2005.09.02 [07:27] t12: or md5
2005.09.02 [07:27] postmodern: people thought that useless departments and politicans that did nothing would not hurt anyone
2005.09.02 [07:27] * simon_c is a brit
2005.09.02 [07:27] t12: or file size
2005.09.02 [07:27] London-UK: is a brit
2005.09.02 [07:28] Midas: point taken
2005.09.02 [07:28] postmodern: but when chaos strikes, you need people to do their job
2005.09.02 [07:28] Wohali: (Link: http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3377957)http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3377957 has uncensored version
2005.09.02 [07:28] calenth: nathanjy: fine, then why do't you present some arguments of your own
2005.09.02 [07:28] sueil: the rapidshare one is uncensored but it doesnt have the crying at the end
2005.09.02 [07:28] Karotte: perhaps someone could put the clean version on to a tracker
2005.09.02 [07:29] colonelPyat: is a brit
2005.09.02 [07:29] Wohali: 3383424 Bytes
2005.09.02 [07:29] Karotte: I'll seed
2005.09.02 [07:29] gauss: also
2005.09.02 [07:30] Sefriel: afternoon brit chaps
2005.09.02 [07:30] briareus: i have a feeling WWL will not enforce copyright on this one
2005.09.02 [07:30] t12: -rw-r--r--  1 t12   t12     12671685 Sep  2 05:56 nagin.mp3
2005.09.02 [07:30] joebob: are your workplaces really like "the office"? the one with ricky gervais, i mean
2005.09.02 [07:30] joev: I hope they hand out extra beatings to the rapists and thugs in the convention center.
2005.09.02 [07:30] t12: MD5 (nagin.mp3) = 79505cf495cd1f3dda0e1e33e1e4bbf6
2005.09.02 [07:30] NathanJY: postmodern: People asking has [insert name of all encompassing US law enforcement agency] ever done ANYTHING right without any statements backing it up is totally mature.
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2005.09.02 [07:32] Sefriel: Some of them, yes
2005.09.02 [07:33] hydroksyde: finally finished downloading nagin.mp3, just a few minutes ago
2005.09.02 [07:33] colonelPyat: joebob: very much so
2005.09.02 [07:33] joebob: lol
2005.09.02 [07:33] briareus: -rw-r--r--  1 briareus briareus 12671685 2005-09-02 04:19 nagin.mp3
2005.09.02 [07:33] Sollord: Congress better fing investigate this responce and bring all these worthless fers up on neglect charges
2005.09.02 [07:33] joebob: mine too
2005.09.02 [07:33] SimonRaven: t12: hanks, i check mine now
2005.09.02 [07:33] Sefriel: not where I'm going to end up, thank the gods
2005.09.02 [07:33] Nerull: NathanJY, perhaps you should calm down and stop taking every comment as dead serious?
2005.09.02 [07:33] calenth: yes it is, nathan. the DHS has only been around a few years. in that time thhy've established a fairly bad track record.
2005.09.02 [07:34] t12: i'll mirror whatever
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2005.09.02 [07:34] simon_c: joebob: Sure, Just like all your coffee shops are like central perk I expect.
2005.09.02 [07:35] postmodern: NathanJY, and they have been served with facts about what is happening
2005.09.02 [07:35] t12: i have a fair amount of bandwidth
2005.09.02 [07:35] ewok: Congress is part of the problem
2005.09.02 [07:36] calenth: if it's immature, then present some examples of times when the DHC has acted competently
2005.09.02 [07:36] acidstars: bring them up on treason
2005.09.02 [07:36] joebob: why, yess they are!
2005.09.02 [07:36] NathanJY: postmodern: ...such as?
2005.09.02 [07:36] SimonRaven: cool, mine matches
2005.09.02 [07:36] acidstars: heh
2005.09.02 [07:36] calenth: and prove me wrong, rather than sitting there and whining.
2005.09.02 [07:37] *** Wohali has changed the topic on channel #interdictor-chat to (Link: http://nola-intel.org)http://nola-intel.org for INFO | This channel for chatter, go nuts, stay off politics/flamewars/phone numbers or be banned | Uncensored Mayor Ray Nagin radio interview at (Link: http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3377957.)http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3377957.
2005.09.02 [07:37] Sollord: (Link: http://tinyurl.com/dqn7l)http://tinyurl.com/dqn7l
2005.09.02 [07:37] postmodern: NathanJY, why don't you stay here, read what people say and help collate information
2005.09.02 [07:37] sueil: well in the first major trial for the dhs they have failed miserably
2005.09.02 [07:37] postmodern: NathanJY, and stop arguing
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2005.09.02 [07:37] Karotte: Wohali: do you have a direct link to that? so that I can start seeding the torrent?
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2005.09.02 [07:38] joev: Part of the problem is that they've never had to deal with something this scale before.
2005.09.02 [07:38] furiousxgeorge: heh, i think torrentspy sounds better than piratebay if u are worried about sounding illegal :)
2005.09.02 [07:38] t12: remirroring with torrent copy
2005.09.02 [07:38] joebob: harrgh!
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2005.09.02 [07:38] Babylonian: Karotte  Nagin MP3 torrent -->  (Link: http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626)http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626
2005.09.02 [07:38] spartanking: Corpses lay out in the open on New Orleans' streets as hungry, desperate storm victims wait for buses to ferry them out of a city that has rapidly descended into chaos.
2005.09.02 [07:38] Sefriel: British people: #interdictor-uk is running so you know. Anyone notified channel4 about here?
2005.09.02 [07:39] joev: Even 9/11 wasn't nearly this bad.
2005.09.02 [07:39] calenth: well, yes, joev, but FEMA has dealt with hurricanes successfully before
2005.09.02 [07:39] renster: any good image sites?
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2005.09.02 [07:39] Karotte: Babylonian: the clean version
2005.09.02 [07:40] Wohali: babylonian:  Is that the censored or uncensored version?
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2005.09.02 [07:40] NathanJY: postmodern: In other words, you realize that they haven't actually supported themselves with facts, so now you just want me to shut up.
2005.09.02 [07:40] s_g: not this big thou
2005.09.02 [07:40] Babylonian: Wohali:  uncensored
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2005.09.02 [07:41] Babylonian: I think
2005.09.02 [07:41] Karotte: Wohali: the piratebay thing is down, tracker down
2005.09.02 [07:41] surina: that nagin.mp3 could be greatly reduced in size without compromising the quality....
2005.09.02 [07:41] gauss: ps. the sample itself is illegal so the hosting isn't really that relevant :)
2005.09.02 [07:42] calenth: this time FEMA seems incapable of ealing, and a major obvious difference is that now FEMA is saddled with another layer of bureaucracy
2005.09.02 [07:42] postmodern: NathanJY, no your misinterpreting what i said please cease and disist
2005.09.02 [07:42] Grider: I think this surpassed Hurricane about 2 days ago
2005.09.02 [07:42] joev: calenth: None of those caused a city of 500k to flood 6ft deep.
2005.09.02 [07:43] t12: yes
2005.09.02 [07:43] Ralish: (Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4207202.stm)http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4207202.stm
2005.09.02 [07:43] t12: i'm hoping thats what this new version is
2005.09.02 [07:43] Ralish: huge blasts supposedly
2005.09.02 [07:43] Tsutako: piratebay torrents normally take about 5 min to connect, Karotte
2005.09.02 [07:43] Ralish: anything on this?
2005.09.02 [07:43] dusty: this surpassed 9/11 two days ago
2005.09.02 [07:43] joebob: pirate blassts
2005.09.02 [07:43] fuol: Karotte: thepiratebay always report trackwer down until u start the d/l
2005.09.02 [07:44] octal: dusty: agreed
2005.09.02 [07:44] TheRedEye: guys I really doubt the radio station cares about their precious copyrighted interview right now, I think they're more concerned with the world knowing that their people are dying. Spread that goddam torrent everywhere.
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2005.09.02 [07:44] Grider: dusty yep
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2005.09.02 [07:44] joebob: harggh
2005.09.02 [07:44] SimonRaven: someone got an mp3 of the interview with soledad and that guy?
2005.09.02 [07:44] calenth: dusty: to be honest, mmost category four/five hurricanes are a lot more devastating than 9/11
2005.09.02 [07:45] t12: yeah
2005.09.02 [07:45] s_g: 9/11 effected a few city blocks, this has farked a city
2005.09.02 [07:45] Babylonian:   Nagin MP3 torrent -->  (Link: http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626)http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626
2005.09.02 [07:45] Karotte: fuol: well my linux bt-client thinks it's down and doesn't like that
2005.09.02 [07:46] Karotte: hm
2005.09.02 [07:46] inter795: Holy fuck...
2005.09.02 [07:46] octal: the hurricane was less than 9-11, the post-hurricane situation is far worse
2005.09.02 [07:46] t12: sort the rights later.
2005.09.02 [07:47] NathanJY: postmodern: Ok, but only once you admit that you're making baseless accusations.  You're now just trying to cop-out of it now that I've pushed you to back up what you're saying.
2005.09.02 [07:47] joebob: so what happened withthe fire
2005.09.02 [07:47] inter795: That interview was something else.
2005.09.02 [07:47] Eclipsed: what the redeye said, PLUS:  in america we have Fair Use of sections of copyrighted material
2005.09.02 [07:48] calenth: i mean 9/11 was bad but it was ust two buildings.
2005.09.02 [07:48] t12: is the standard procedure
2005.09.02 [07:49] joev: Prior to this, FEMAs response to hurricanes was to truck in bottles of water, and bring some bulldozers to push away debris.  This is an entirely different ballgae.
2005.09.02 [07:49] Wohali: ok, (Link: www.atypical.net/mm/nagin.mp3)www.atypical.net/mm/nagin.mp3 is now the NON censored version
2005.09.02 [07:49] dusty: calenth: i know well. I started covering this on Saturday.
2005.09.02 [07:49] SimonRaven: thanks
2005.09.02 [07:49] SimonRaven: i'll put up mirror links too
2005.09.02 [07:50] joebob: yes now tehy skip the water and try for tanks
2005.09.02 [07:50] Wohali: fast pipe here, go ahead and add it as a mirror
2005.09.02 [07:50] octal: i think basically we have learned that new orleans was ALWAYS a ghetto
2005.09.02 [07:51] Feonix762: If someone is looking for the nagin interview that will host it on a better connection I can send it to you, I'd host but my connection would shit a brick
2005.09.02 [07:51] Feonix762: PM me
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2005.09.02 [07:52] briareus: thanks Wohali
2005.09.02 [07:52] Wohali: ty
2005.09.02 [07:52] Wohali: er
2005.09.02 [07:52] Wohali: you're welcome :)
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2005.09.02 [07:52] boofoo: has anything been posted about rebuilding, and if they are moving elsewhere or gonna rebuild the old city?
2005.09.02 [07:52] sueil: does that atypical have the crying at the end?
2005.09.02 [07:53] Babylonian: Feonix762:  lets put it on a torrent
2005.09.02 [07:53] joebob: they will rebuild
2005.09.02 [07:53] fuol: Karotte: my azureus DHT client has no dramas with TPB tracker :p
2005.09.02 [07:53] calenth: in the long run this may actually be a good learning experience for the nation
2005.09.02 [07:53] Belladona: boofoo: that question is pretty obnoxious right now
2005.09.02 [07:53] briareus: Wohali: that file size is a third the edited size
2005.09.02 [07:53] calenth: if we ever have to deal with a city being nuked etc
2005.09.02 [07:53] sigtom: to soon to know about rebuilding..havent even started cleaning up yet
2005.09.02 [07:53] acidstars: that interview may very well be the best thing i will ever see in mainstream media
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2005.09.02 [07:54] TheRedEye: I agree, acidstars
2005.09.02 [07:54] joev: The "what if" game I'd like to play is: how would have this all gone down if they had spent less time finding people on rooftops, and instead, cracking down on violence?
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2005.09.02 [07:54] Wohali: briareus: yes, 3 times larger
2005.09.02 [07:54] Babylonian: joev:  there really isn't that much violence
2005.09.02 [07:55] kyhwana: joev: more people would be dead?
2005.09.02 [07:55] Wohali: it starts earlier as well
2005.09.02 [07:55] fuol: i think political correctness is obnoxious at any time
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2005.09.02 [07:56] joebob: or maybe they could fix the levee
2005.09.02 [07:56] joebob: and then pump out
2005.09.02 [07:56] SimonRaven: Wohali: i've put up a link to yours (nagin.mp3) and some others
2005.09.02 [07:57] TheRedEye: I hope someone capped soledad's interview. I was SO impressed, that was some serious journalism.
2005.09.02 [07:57] simon_c: I can't understand how the desaster responce has been so poor in NO. It's almost like they could just have coped with the devistation on the smaller costal towns, but the NO situation has just got them
2005.09.02 [07:57] Babylonian: What if they had tried to fix the damn levee before 5 days into it
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2005.09.02 [07:58] Wohali:  (Link: http://mirror1.ev1helps.net/)http://mirror1.ev1helps.net/
2005.09.02 [07:58] Wohali: Mirrors.
2005.09.02 [07:58] s_g: what, anyone that shoots at the army helicopter, gets opened up on with the 50 cal
2005.09.02 [07:58] Karotte: Wohali: no, your version is 3MB, the other version is 12 MB
2005.09.02 [07:58] SimonRaven: cool
2005.09.02 [07:58] fuol: SimonRaven: url pls
2005.09.02 [07:59] briareus: Wohali: no i mean that the one i had before was 3 times larger than this one you ahve up now...
2005.09.02 [07:59] acidstars: even if the levees are fixed, and the pumps are made operational again, pumping is going to take an insane amount of time
2005.09.02 [07:59] Babylonian:   Nagin MP3 torrent -->  (Link: http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626)http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626
2005.09.02 [07:59] SimonRaven: fuol: (Link: http://simonraven.nuit.ca/blog/categories/rants/NewOrleansandHurricaneKatrina.html)http://simonraven.nuit.ca/blog/categories/rants/NewOrleansandHurricaneKatrina.html
2005.09.02 [07:59] ewok: heh I turned on ABC, the first thing I see is Nagin
2005.09.02 [08:00] Wohali: briareus:  Odd.
2005.09.02 [08:00] joev: simon_c: It's a matter of scale.
2005.09.02 [08:00] briareus: yeah for Karotte too, Wohali
2005.09.02 [08:00] Midas: I would have thought the outlying areas would get screwed out of help, and New Orleans would be getting all of it
2005.09.02 [08:00] joebob: I dont know where all this shooting stuff comes from, they never even really tried to fix the levee, how could they know that they would be shot at, a lot of shooting stuff was rumors
2005.09.02 [08:00] dusty: acidstars: four months to drain
2005.09.02 [08:01] Infradead: (Link: http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=973)http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=973
2005.09.02 [08:01] Infradead: Somebody tell me what that says.
2005.09.02 [08:01] joebob: shooting at a protective squat of cops, no way they would try
2005.09.02 [08:01] dusty: unless the corps goes WW2 on the flooding
2005.09.02 [08:01] ewok: they said nagin will be interviewed on good morning america, if I heard it right
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2005.09.02 [08:02] Infradead: I'm uploading a large file currently and my browser is sluggish.
2005.09.02 [08:02] calenth: does anyone have a transscription ofo these interviews?
2005.09.02 [08:03] s_g: 10 weeks was the estermite i read for pumping out the city, in optimal conditons
2005.09.02 [08:03] t12: they drove some sheet pile
2005.09.02 [08:03] joebob: its just random doods, not iraqi fire teams
2005.09.02 [08:03] acidstars: yea, i know
2005.09.02 [08:03] t12: on one
2005.09.02 [08:04] Sollord:  Announcing the arrival of 300 Arkansas National Guard troops in New Orleans fresh from service in Iraq, Blanco said, "these troops are battle-tested. They have M-16s and are locked and loaded."
2005.09.02 [08:04] briareus: Wohali: -rw-r--r--  1 briareus briareus 3383424 2005-09-02 04:04 nagin.mp3  ....but was.... -rw-r--r--  1 briareus briareus 12671685 2005-09-02 04:19 documentation/nagin.mp3
2005.09.02 [08:04] Sollord: "These troops know how to shoot and kill and I expect they will," she said.
2005.09.02 [08:04] Wohali:  BATON ROUGE, LA--Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco today issued Proclamation No. 48 KBB 2005, declaring a state of emergency for the state Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina poses an imminent threat, carrying severe storms, high winds, and torrential rain that may cause flooding and damage to private property and public facilities,
2005.09.02 [08:05] surina: that 12mb file could be re-encoded to 22.1khz monophonic file which would reduce the size to about 3 megabytes withouth any compromises to quality
2005.09.02 [08:05] Sefriel: Hey. Is there a "press pack" type thing we're sending to the media? And, has anyone contacted british media?
2005.09.02 [08:05] inter795: Man Nagin sure let loose about the looters...
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2005.09.02 [08:06] Belladona: calenth: it is a 14 minute interview you arent gonna find a transcript for quite a while - you will be able to download it much quicker
2005.09.02 [08:06] Wohali: briareus: Yes, this is a larger file.
2005.09.02 [08:06] Kirtan: (Link: http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/WWL-AM_Interview_with_New_Orleans_Mayor_Ray_Nagin_Angry_at_Lack_.3377957.TPB.torrent)http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/WWL-AM_Interview_with_New_Orleans_Mayor_Ray_Nagin_Angry_at_Lack_.3377957.TPB.torrent
2005.09.02 [08:06] Wohali: -rw-r--r--  1 joant joant 3383424 Sep  2 07:04 nagin.mp3
2005.09.02 [08:06] dusty: i imagine corporations like Rand and Caterpiller will have NO drained in 4-5 weeks
2005.09.02 [08:06] briareus: Wohali: you arent listening to me
2005.09.02 [08:07] joev: joebob: I'm sure they have less reservations about shooting innocent Iraqi civilians than innocent NO civvies.
2005.09.02 [08:07] ewok: 6 Murders, 12 Rapes Inside Superdome - (Link: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/1/230732.shtml)http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/1/230732.shtml
2005.09.02 [08:07] inetd_: poor bastards. they come home from baghdad, to get put right back into shit.
2005.09.02 [08:07] briareus: the file you had up EARLIER was LARGER
2005.09.02 [08:07] sueil: 6 and 12?!
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2005.09.02 [08:07] fuol: whatever - seed both files, the messgae is whats important...
2005.09.02 [08:07] Wohali: ah I see, 12MB
2005.09.02 [08:08] Wohali: sorry
2005.09.02 [08:08] sueil: last i heard was 0 murders and 2 rapes
2005.09.02 [08:08] t12: the version i have
2005.09.02 [08:08] t12: is diffnt
2005.09.02 [08:08] Wohali: right, seed both files
2005.09.02 [08:08] t12: then the version that is on atypical
2005.09.02 [08:08] furiousxgeorge: newsmax is not a trustworthy source
2005.09.02 [08:09] gauss: how the hell are people managing to get away with rape in a closed enclosure?
2005.09.02 [08:09] joebob: joev: not totally following. I am just saying that the levee fixers with dome backup would probably not be bothered
2005.09.02 [08:09] Infradead: Wohali: What powers does a state of emergency grant to the mayor of NOLA?
2005.09.02 [08:09] ewok: meh, they aren't that bad
2005.09.02 [08:10] Strayer_: Just heard on a german News TV that teenage boys are walking down the street raping randomly - is it that extreme in NO? o_o
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2005.09.02 [08:11] Wohali: infradead:  I am not 100% sure...but if you believe Nagin apparently not as much as he needs
2005.09.02 [08:11] sueil: yes i had heard about that Strayer_
2005.09.02 [08:11] Wohali: he can't command troops himself
2005.09.02 [08:11] sueil: rape gangs are roaming the city
2005.09.02 [08:11] Babylonian:   Nagin 12MB MP3 torrent -->  (Link: http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626)http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626
2005.09.02 [08:11] joebob: I think that even the roving "knuckleheads" would appreciate having more burglary sites pumped out
2005.09.02 [08:12] Strayer_: damn..
2005.09.02 [08:12] fuol: apparently the existing NO gangs are running the show
2005.09.02 [08:12] Sefriel: gauss: People gang up
2005.09.02 [08:13] t12: i'll cook down the copy i got
2005.09.02 [08:13] TheRedEye: I really doubt there are "rape gangs" running around, come on.
2005.09.02 [08:13] ewok: I don't think nagin has any control at this point
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2005.09.02 [08:13] Babylonian: TheRedEye:  me neither
2005.09.02 [08:13] furiousxgeorge: LA gov on cnn now
2005.09.02 [08:13] sueil: do you doubt anything in that city?
2005.09.02 [08:14] Babylonian: rape gangs is baghdad bob talk
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2005.09.02 [08:14] spartanking: Nagin admits as much
2005.09.02 [08:14] Sollord: (Link: http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WEATHER/09/02/katrina.impact/story.vert.warning.jpg)http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WEATHER/09/02/katrina.impact/story.vert.warning.jpg
2005.09.02 [08:14] joebob: bankok ben talk too
2005.09.02 [08:14] dusty: theres another storm in the GFS forcasts..
2005.09.02 [08:14] Strayer_: well..we don't know anything for sure...
2005.09.02 [08:15] s_g: the gangs aquired some heavy weapons, ak's apparently
2005.09.02 [08:15] fuol: i have never experienced anarchy so i cant comment
2005.09.02 [08:15] dusty: next weekend
2005.09.02 [08:15] hoodah: here in WA we are hearing teenage rape gangs
2005.09.02 [08:15] briareus: yeah Mayor Nagin mentions drug addicts with guns looking for a fix
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2005.09.02 [08:16] postmodern: do we have evidence of this
2005.09.02 [08:16] joebob: besides FEMA bob is blind, he cant see the people at the convention center
2005.09.02 [08:17] hoodah: I reckon hit the bastards hard
2005.09.02 [08:17] postmodern: do we actually know the gangs have AKs
2005.09.02 [08:17] calenth: just because they have something that looks like an AK doesn't mean they have an actual fully automatic AK-47
2005.09.02 [08:18] hoodah: burn em
2005.09.02 [08:18] Kirtan: (Link: http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/nagin[1].mp3.torrent)http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/nagin[1].mp3.torrent
2005.09.02 [08:18] fuol: too true joebob
2005.09.02 [08:18] Infradead: I think it's important to know what powers a state of emergency officially grants to a mayor in a situation like this.
2005.09.02 [08:19] sueil: man CNN is finally asking the tough questions
2005.09.02 [08:19] postmodern: last picture i saw it was plain clothed police with AKs
2005.09.02 [08:19] joebob: they keep popping up individually, er i mean "manifesting themselves"
2005.09.02 [08:19] kyhwana: There probably ARE gangs, they might be raping and looting, which is likely.
2005.09.02 [08:19] postmodern: in the FEDEX van
2005.09.02 [08:20] sueil: if they were like this all the time it would be worth watching again
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2005.09.02 [08:20] hoodah: what the hell is going on over there?
2005.09.02 [08:20] Babylonian: postmodern:  how do you know they were police and not gangsters or al qaeda
2005.09.02 [08:21] ben: postmodern: Sure those were police?
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2005.09.02 [08:22] hoodah: you are America
2005.09.02 [08:22] boofoo: Hey this is a weird question.
2005.09.02 [08:22] mike````: man, that is one pissed off mayor
2005.09.02 [08:23] Alystair: Sollord, it's like in HL2 man
2005.09.02 [08:23] fuol: think GTA: NO
2005.09.02 [08:23] joebob: I R merica!!
2005.09.02 [08:23] spartanking: Doc: 6 Murders, 12 Rapes Inside Superdome
2005.09.02 [08:23] spartanking: A doctor who's been tending to the sick and wounded inside the New Orleans Superdome for the last two days described a horrific scene Thursday night.
2005.09.02 [08:24] spartanking: (Link: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/1/230732.shtml)http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/1/230732.shtml wow that's some crazy shit
2005.09.02 [08:24] joebob: rawr
2005.09.02 [08:24] postmodern: Babylonian, ben: gangs don't wear shoulder mounted radios
2005.09.02 [08:24] furiousxgeorge: newsmax is not a trustworthy source
2005.09.02 [08:25] Ol_Blue: Is there a text trasncription of the Major's interview ?
2005.09.02 [08:25] hoodah: this may be the BIG catalyst
2005.09.02 [08:25] postmodern: i don't trust newsmax
2005.09.02 [08:26] doofoo-: (Link: http://www.nola-intel.org/pictures/)http://www.nola-intel.org/pictures/ , (Link: http://nola-intel.org:8001/scan)http://nola-intel.org:8001/scan feed 1, (Link: http://nola-intel.org:8003/fema)http://nola-intel.org:8003/fema feed 2, (Link: http://nola-intel.org:8005/astro)http://nola-intel.org:8005/astro astrodome feed 3
2005.09.02 [08:26] Kirtan: (Link: http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/nagin[1].mp3.torrent)http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/nagin[1].mp3.torrent
2005.09.02 [08:26] hoodah: setting everything off
2005.09.02 [08:26] briareus: hoodah: it already is
2005.09.02 [08:26] t12: for those who can take some black humor
2005.09.02 [08:26] postmodern: they do tones of really biased shit
2005.09.02 [08:26] Wohali: hello doofoo
2005.09.02 [08:26] sueil: we know there are gangs inside NOLA and we know they are looting and raping and shooting at rescuers... saying they are rape gangs might not be true but they are gangs and they are raping
2005.09.02 [08:27] t12: (Link: http://ptocheia.net/misc/katamarikatrina.jpg)http://ptocheia.net/misc/katamarikatrina.jpg
2005.09.02 [08:27] London-UK: I doubt police would be armed with AK's, they are far less accurate than M-16 and more modern firearms... and I would think that for the police... accuracy is pretty important
2005.09.02 [08:27] hoodah: sodom and gomorrah and all that
2005.09.02 [08:27] boofoo: my bank has an office in new orleans, as far as i know there are 11 people working there, and only 2 have called in, is it worth calling in to find out or just wait until tings settle down they are only employees.   All the data was already migrated off the san except for a few hours on monday.
2005.09.02 [08:28] Tsutako: well.. on interdictor LJ he says there's rape and rape-murder stuff.. so..
2005.09.02 [08:28] joebob: hoodah, america is cool,  but we are too corn-fed these days
2005.09.02 [08:29] Wohali: I may have to head off to the airport here shortly, I will try and return tomorrow
2005.09.02 [08:29] fuol: maybe russian police would have ak's
2005.09.02 [08:30] joev: That CNN guy (Miles) is being a deal dick.
2005.09.02 [08:30] fuol: ..
2005.09.02 [08:30] briareus: London-UK: well said, and correct
2005.09.02 [08:30] doofoo-: just getting ready to go home from work.. ;)
2005.09.02 [08:30] joev: real dick, taht is.
2005.09.02 [08:30] Babylonian: joev:  is he?
2005.09.02 [08:30] joebob: we should toughen up
2005.09.02 [08:30] Grider: he was a dick yesterday to Gov. Barber
2005.09.02 [08:31] Babylonian: joev:  I think he's asking questions that need to be asked
2005.09.02 [08:31] furiousxgeorge: LA Gov: "I don't even know  what today is"
2005.09.02 [08:31] Ol_Blue: If there isnt a written version I can type it up
2005.09.02 [08:31] boofoo: hi doofoo!
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2005.09.02 [08:31] hoodah: get the hard core from Iraq in there with order to shoot and then ask questions
2005.09.02 [08:31] joev: Babylonian: They don't need to be asked now.
2005.09.02 [08:32] Babylonian: joev:  yes they do
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2005.09.02 [08:32] Sollord: ouch the gov is basiclly saying she asked for 12k troops and they should of been there tuesday
2005.09.02 [08:32] r3boot: London-UK, the penetration power of the AK might be enough to warrant their deficiencies compared to the m16
2005.09.02 [08:32] Babylonian: the feds are not doing the job
2005.09.02 [08:33] Babylonian:   Nagin 12MB MP3 torrent -->  (Link: http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626)http://www.torrentspy.com/directory.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=398626
2005.09.02 [08:33] joebob: shes such a clown
2005.09.02 [08:33] boofoo: hahaha 'let's not play the blame game'
2005.09.02 [08:33] boofoo: and a winnar is you!
2005.09.02 [08:33] joebob: she told everone to leave the city
2005.09.02 [08:33] hoodah: joebob I have lived there and visited Norleans
2005.09.02 [08:34] ewok: geez guys having the military in there is not going to be pretty, they will kill a lot of innocents
2005.09.02 [08:34] joebob: what a luzer
2005.09.02 [08:34] joev: Babylonian: No, they don't.  She should have to have this crap hanging over her head now.  Roast her over the grill next week.
2005.09.02 [08:34] London-UK: Actually AK's work better than M-16's in the wet I believe.
2005.09.02 [08:34] Babylonian: "let's not play the blame game" is in the GOP talking points
2005.09.02 [08:34] fuol: modern US police use m4/m4a's not vietnam era m16's
2005.09.02 [08:35] Sollord: No the CNN is asking the hard questions and finally gettin the answers
2005.09.02 [08:35] Kirtan: Nagin 12MB MP3 torrent ------ > (Link: http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/nagin[1].mp3.torrent)http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/nagin[1].mp3.torrent
2005.09.02 [08:35] t12: yeah
2005.09.02 [08:35] boofoo: joev, can i choose choice body parts? :P
2005.09.02 [08:36] joebob: i mean the gov lady
2005.09.02 [08:36] t12: m16's are kinda crappy
2005.09.02 [08:36] Infradead: joebob: Fat lot of good that does for people who have no way to get out of the city, eh?
2005.09.02 [08:36] Babylonian: joev:  next week they will be dead
2005.09.02 [08:36] gauss: she just looks exhasted and scared of getting in trouble with the government
2005.09.02 [08:37] gauss: +u
2005.09.02 [08:37] kyhwana: m4 is a carbine, different from the m16
2005.09.02 [08:37] hoodah: this is bad and is going to lead to bad international consequences
2005.09.02 [08:37] joebob: hoodah did you like it?
2005.09.02 [08:38] TheRedEye: I am SO impressed with CNN right now.
2005.09.02 [08:38] joev: Babylonian: I'm sure the governer will be alive next week.
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2005.09.02 [08:38] Eclipsed: (Link: http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2005/09/even-mr.html)http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2005/09/even-mr.html
2005.09.02 [08:38] ewok: the m16 is a fine rifle when maintained
2005.09.02 [08:38] Alystair: RedEye: sarcasm?
2005.09.02 [08:38] calenth: bad international consequences?
2005.09.02 [08:39] t12: yeah
2005.09.02 [08:39] boofoo: haha
2005.09.02 [08:39] hoodah: yes i love the city
2005.09.02 [08:39] Strayer_: what happens on cnn?
2005.09.02 [08:39] Babylonian: joev:  yes she will but the people in NO won't
2005.09.02 [08:39] jussiv: lol (Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/americas_new_orleans_lawlessness/img/1.jpg)http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/americas_new_orleans_lawlessness/img/1.jpg
2005.09.02 [08:40] t12: when maintained :)
2005.09.02 [08:40] hoodah: we stayed in Decatur
2005.09.02 [08:40] boofoo: 'a question  of HOW SOON WILL BE TROOPS'
2005.09.02 [08:40] boofoo: and that requires a numerical answer.
2005.09.02 [08:40] boofoo: not this BS explanation.
2005.09.02 [08:40] hoodah: this is just too fucking sad
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2005.09.02 [08:41] boofoo: hahah CNN is on a roll today
2005.09.02 [08:41] joebob: it di dnot have to be like this
2005.09.02 [08:41] London-UK: great photo
2005.09.02 [08:42] TheRedEye: no sarcasm, this is the best reportage I've seen on any mainstream media in as long as I can remember
2005.09.02 [08:42] inter795: TheRedEye: They were probably so pissed off with all they were saying that they just said "Fuck it" and published the entire interview in a moment of angere.
2005.09.02 [08:42] s_g: the ak will fire after a dunking in the crappy water and mud
2005.09.02 [08:42] joev: Babylonian: So how does some jerk lambasting her on national TV live help the people in NO now?
2005.09.02 [08:43] Chrisbert: "You'll see a show of force today and in the days to come."  LA Gov.  Where have we heard *THAT* before?
2005.09.02 [08:43] gauss: "when we pull then out of Iraq"
2005.09.02 [08:43] hoodah: i know
2005.09.02 [08:43] joebob: everyone is troophappy
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2005.09.02 [08:44] hydroksyde: jussiv:: lol
2005.09.02 [08:44] Babylonian: joev:  maybe it will light a fire under someone's ass at the Pentagon or White House
2005.09.02 [08:44] Alystair: This event will probably kill 4chan as well :O
2005.09.02 [08:44] boofoo: we need powered armor marines,
2005.09.02 [08:45] hoodah: but even when we were there in 98 we were warned about the projects
2005.09.02 [08:45] drip: perhaps it will embarass
2005.09.02 [08:45] Alystair: not that it matters
2005.09.02 [08:45] briareus: TheRedEye: even a  broken watch is correct twice a day
2005.09.02 [08:45] nrs___: grr
2005.09.02 [08:45] Sollord: CNN anchors are finally getting fed up with the BS and lies and are not sticking it to the people in charge
2005.09.02 [08:45] briareus: TheRedEye: (CNN)
2005.09.02 [08:45] boofoo: with droppods so you can just drop them down from orbit.
2005.09.02 [08:45] joev: Babylonian: Then CNN should be busting their balls, not hers.
2005.09.02 [08:46] spartanking: wow the greatest nation on earth looks pretty BUSHleague today, it's really too sad for words
2005.09.02 [08:46] joebob: piling everyone into tight spaces, and then surrounding them with soldiers is not cool
2005.09.02 [08:46] Kirtan: Nagin 12MB MP3 torrent ------ > (Link: http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/nagin[1].mp3.torrent)http://www.troposphere.ca/torrents/nagin[1].mp3.torrent
2005.09.02 [08:46] Sollord: not/now
2005.09.02 [08:47] fuol: jussiv: rof
2005.09.02 [08:47] SimonRaven: someone got an mp3 of the interview with soledad and that guy?
2005.09.02 [08:47] fuol: l
2005.09.02 [08:47] hoodah: politics alers
2005.09.02 [08:47] hoodah: alert
2005.09.02 [08:47] ewok: I don't understand how they have fucked this up so badly, at least 9/11 had an organized police response
2005.09.02 [08:47] TheRedEye: bri: I know, that's why I said RIGHT NOW. CNN is usually awful,b ut this really is bringing out the best in them.
2005.09.02 [08:48] t12: simon: i tivo'd it but i havent ripped it yet
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2005.09.02 [08:49] SimonRaven: t12: ok
2005.09.02 [08:49] briareus: TheRedEye: agreed
2005.09.02 [08:49] boofoo: haha in less than 2 hours?
2005.09.02 [08:49] hoodah: yes but you are in the South and the North has never really cared
2005.09.02 [08:49] t12: lemme see if i can de-drm it
2005.09.02 [08:49] spartanking: CNN woke up yesterday
2005.09.02 [08:50] hoodah: you know that
2005.09.02 [08:50] iapx8088: Please hand me the ray_nagin entry on wikipedia
2005.09.02 [08:50] kyhwana: CNN is like "Wow, we can rip these guys a new one, so we should!"
2005.09.02 [08:50] Babylonian: t12:  you should send it to crooksandliars.com
2005.09.02 [08:50] iapx8088: I'm going to put it on my blog
2005.09.02 [08:50] sueil: kyhwana lol
2005.09.02 [08:50] Sollord: ewok: New york wasn't under 18feet of water
2005.09.02 [08:51] boofoo: it's already 7:40 EST, and bush is leaving at  9:40 am to go fly down?  He really lives a convenient lifestyle.  He should have been up at 4:45am.
2005.09.02 [08:51] joebob: I think it says a lot that americans are quick to say  "I for one welcome our new soldier overlords"
2005.09.02 [08:51] briareus: Sollord: well spoken
2005.09.02 [08:51] boofoo: if NY is under 18 feet of water, most of NY would be under sea level.
2005.09.02 [08:51] t12: i will
2005.09.02 [08:51] Babylonian: boofoo:  Bush better have lots of secret service
2005.09.02 [08:52] Chrisbert: She might as well say "Bring it on," and put up a "Mission Accomplished" banner.
2005.09.02 [08:52] ewok: Sollord: no, but they lost their command and control
2005.09.02 [08:52] briareus: lol Chrisbert
2005.09.02 [08:52] SimonRaven: iapx8088: (Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Nagin (from memory)
2005.09.02 [08:52] kyhwana: Babylonian: he's not going into NO
2005.09.02 [08:53] boofoo: Babylonian, haha it might take a while to fly them al down :P
2005.09.02 [08:54] ewok: they still managed to keep order
2005.09.02 [08:54] hoodah: you need military now not police
2005.09.02 [08:54] Sollord: They never lost command and control
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2005.09.02 [08:54] Babylonian: kyhwana:  he doesn't have the balls
2005.09.02 [08:54] fuol: joebob: put that tinfoil hat away
2005.09.02 [08:54] Strayer_: It's interesting to see the differences between the german news channels and the reports here O_o
2005.09.02 [08:54] Feonix762: Yeah really, what the fuck.. I want to see Bush on the hour every hour talking about what has been doing and is being done.. I want him to look like he hasn't slept in a week.. fucking bitch
2005.09.02 [08:55] kyhwana: Babylonian: exactly.
2005.09.02 [08:55] gauss: shhh, nagin is talking again
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2005.09.02 [08:55] hoodah: it has gone way too far for police and paramilitary
2005.09.02 [08:55] TheRedEye: it's like all these very talented and passionate journalists have been quieted down with their big cushy job at CNN and all of a sudden they're all just like "...fuck it"
2005.09.02 [08:55] ewok: yes they did, it was in the WTC :o
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2005.09.02 [08:56] patpatnz: (not that I do)
2005.09.02 [08:56] _nexxus_: after ivan, here in florida
2005.09.02 [08:56] _nexxus_: we had national guard, fema, and everything else immediately
2005.09.02 [08:57] octal: 4ID needs to roll through nola
2005.09.02 [08:57] Eimann: Is the (Link: www.atypical.net)www.atypical.net guy in here?
2005.09.02 [08:57] Belladona: kyhwana: yeah but i think the positive effects of his death would be worth it
2005.09.02 [08:57] Sollord: I know the 1st marine is also in cali
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2005.09.02 [08:58] _nexxus_: with more supplies than we could use
2005.09.02 [08:58] patpatnz: anyone that wants to transplant to NZ, don't move to auckland
2005.09.02 [08:58] spectros: gumming up works=Political boneheads running things
2005.09.02 [08:59] _nexxus_: agreed
2005.09.02 [08:59] kyhwana: Belladona: well, true. I'm sure the venuazwalian (yes, I butchered that) president would be glad. Might send us some money
2005.09.02 [08:59] Sollord: Turn it all over to the military for a week let them work itout
2005.09.02 [08:59] izz: omfg wheres Kevin Costner , we need to send him  in cos he is the one who is experienced living in a water world
2005.09.02 [09:00] altai: patpatnz : why ?
2005.09.02 [09:00] SimonRaven: goldamn i wish i had a better up.... sorry folks
2005.09.02 [09:00] patpatnz: kyhwana: auckland should be expecting race riots in the next few years, a little after sydney gets thiers (reaching critical)
2005.09.02 [09:00] MissM: Chavez is easier to type :)
2005.09.02 [09:00] NathanJY: I love how everyone is a self-appointed expert in emergency response
2005.09.02 [09:00] Belladona: kyhwana: from what I hear they already have offered help
2005.09.02 [09:01] patpatnz: altai: it sucks :)
2005.09.02 [09:01] _nexxus_: and we all know bush knows how to pull the trigger
2005.09.02 [09:01] _nexxus_: so i don't think it's at the federal level
2005.09.02 [09:01] NathanJY: and knows exactly how everything is being coordinated at this moment
2005.09.02 [09:02] Matt_H: Many people immigrating to Australia use New Zealand as a staging post
2005.09.02 [09:02] NathanJY: and knows all the conditions of flooding and whatnot
2005.09.02 [09:02] postmodern: politicans these days are good at winning the election, but after they can't run shit
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2005.09.02 [09:03] kyhwana: patpatnz: goddamn. I was thinking maybe Hamilton when I get back. I have lots of (geeky) friends there
2005.09.02 [09:03] * izz orders 50000000 pairs of flippers and drop ships them to the affected areas
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2005.09.02 [09:03] fiish: patpatnz: I haven't been to Sydney in a few years. Is it really that bad?
2005.09.02 [09:03] _nexxus_: he obviously delegates very well
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2005.09.02 [09:04] izz: ok ive done my part
2005.09.02 [09:04] furiousxgeorge: dont have to be an expert to see this situation is farked
2005.09.02 [09:04] _nexxus_: and he tends to delegate to the proper people
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2005.09.02 [09:04] patpatnz: kyhwana: hamiltron, city of the future
2005.09.02 [09:05] Belladona: hrm
2005.09.02 [09:05] kyhwana: patpatnz: hamiltron!
2005.09.02 [09:05] Ethek: Its sad how corrupt the NOPD still is, even after all that mess in the 90s. Now the guard and FEMA will get a bad name for a city going into anarchy
2005.09.02 [09:05] patpatnz: fiish: yup
2005.09.02 [09:06] altai: patpatnz : well, it's all relative.. does it suck compared to big cities in australia ? Or to other cities in NZ ? or to the countryside ?
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2005.09.02 [09:06] London-UK: I loved sydney, go there every year for Xmas, been looking at a unit on kent street.
2005.09.02 [09:06] Matt_H: Wellington cold and windy
2005.09.02 [09:07] Scoria: WWLTV says:
2005.09.02 [09:07] Scoria: 7:03 A.M. - Maestri: We had a plan and we followed it (on storm coverage). Mayor Nagin and those in Jefferson believed that within 48 hours food, water and security would be here. It didn't happen.
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2005.09.02 [09:07] Sollord: Did she jsut let a laugh out at the idea of bush going to tour the coast?
2005.09.02 [09:07] NathanJY: furiousxgeorge: but you do have to be an expert to know if they aren't running it as well as they could
2005.09.02 [09:08] Belladona: apparently bush is still going to NOLA
2005.09.02 [09:08] patpatnz: altai: compared to anywhere else in NZ
2005.09.02 [09:08] izz: something has to be hiolding them all back
2005.09.02 [09:09] boofoo: sollord, yes she scoffed
2005.09.02 [09:09] fiish: patpatnz: wow. Hasn't really made the news that much then.
2005.09.02 [09:09] kyhwana: Matt_H: that's why they call it the windy city
2005.09.02 [09:09] NathanJY: beyond hindsight logic
2005.09.02 [09:09] boofoo: ooh nice skirt
2005.09.02 [09:10] boofoo: wow she IS cute
2005.09.02 [09:10] Belladona: the guy on tv just said he was leaving for there
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2005.09.02 [09:10] boofoo: Soledad can i take you for a ride in my wheelchair of love?
2005.09.02 [09:11] Sollord: Good so im not seeing things
2005.09.02 [09:11] NathanJY: the military IS there
2005.09.02 [09:11] furiousxgeorge: you dont have to be an expert to see they should have forced evacuation
2005.09.02 [09:11] DeadlyEwok: New Orleans residents told to evacuate city ahead of Ivan
2005.09.02 [09:12] DeadlyEwok: (Link: http://www.dailytexanonline.com/media/paper410/news/2004/09/15/WorldNation/New-Orleans.Residents.Told.To.Evacuate.City.Ahead.Of.Ivan-719095.shtml)http://www.dailytexanonline.com/media/paper410/news/2004/09/15/WorldNation/New-Orleans.Residents.Told.To.Evacuate.City.Ahead.Of.Ivan-719095.shtml
2005.09.02 [09:12] Infradead: Gods.
2005.09.02 [09:12] Infradead: I should try to sleep.
2005.09.02 [09:12] izz: wow they rekon the damamge is going to cost up to 100 billion easy
2005.09.02 [09:12] NathanJY: I don't know why people keep acting like they've sent absolutely nothing
2005.09.02 [09:12] DeadlyEwok: check that if you want hindsight
2005.09.02 [09:13] Sollord: She's a lil hottie
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2005.09.02 [09:13] Belladona: lol
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2005.09.02 [09:13] Infradead: Honestly, I don't think they should attempt to rebuild NOLA.
2005.09.02 [09:13] kyhwana: kiss your insurance goodbye, the insurance companies are going to go bankrupt
2005.09.02 [09:14] patpatnz: fiish: I think it's a case of head in the sand with that one, but if you follow reports from researchers then you'll see what I mean (I read some stuff a while back but not sure where it was now)
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2005.09.02 [09:14] Infradead: Originally, its location was understandable.
2005.09.02 [09:14] izz: DeadlyEwok the poor, old and sick could not evacuate
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2005.09.02 [09:14] boofoo: they'll find some way of not paying
2005.09.02 [09:14] furiousxgeorge: nathan, read the interdictor blog, thousands of people at the convention center and they gave them nothing for days, when they did give something they just dropped shit off a bridge and most of it broke
2005.09.02 [09:15] DeadlyEwok: EXACTLY
2005.09.02 [09:15] Infradead: It provided immediate access to a major river and immediate access to the ocean.
2005.09.02 [09:15] Sollord: CNN is being brutal when it come to the feds and people spinning and lieing
2005.09.02 [09:16] Red_Eye: ok stupid question here, my wife thinks they should be helping the people starving, has anyone else seen someone have a negative reaction to them just sitting there holding their own?
2005.09.02 [09:16] Infradead: Now, however, that location isn't necessary.
2005.09.02 [09:16] fiish: patpatnz: Thanks. Going to have to keep an ear to the ground on that one.
2005.09.02 [09:16] Sollord: rihgt on cnn.com it quotes the mayor
2005.09.02 [09:17] izz: one thing we should remember is imagine if there had been no warning like the flood victims over xmas
2005.09.02 [09:17] Belladona: Red_Eye what do you mean?
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2005.09.02 [09:17] Sollord: Mayor blasts feds: "They are spinning and people are dying"
2005.09.02 [09:17] kyhwana: Red_Eye: I don't think there is anything they can do.
2005.09.02 [09:17] patpatnz: kyhwana: I've never been to hamiltron, grew up in chch, then north of chc, then moved to cental otago
2005.09.02 [09:18] Infradead: Simply rebuild up stream, out of the flood plain, and build rail to a ocean port which is also out of the flood plain.
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2005.09.02 [09:18] DeadlyEwok: so nagin already went through the planning for such a scenario... why hadn't they prepared?
2005.09.02 [09:19] kyhwana: The cops are apparently stopping people from leaving, you can't just walk to the nearest city, etc
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2005.09.02 [09:19] mRNA: a direct hit from a cat 5 and people stayed after being told they were gonna get their asses handed to them....and now they are mad because we cant get to them fast enuff ...its a natural disaster come on!!! you were warned!!!
2005.09.02 [09:19] DrBoB: Red_Eye: it would take most people at least a month without food to even come close to starving
2005.09.02 [09:19] izz: Sollord anyone that believes CNN has an iq that does not exceed room temp.
2005.09.02 [09:20] Belladona: DeadlyEwok: no money
2005.09.02 [09:20] NathanJY: DeadlyEwok: Yes, and New Orleans has been in that conditions for eons now.  It's still hindsight.  Tell me, were when was it that YOU were pushing for better protection measures?  Where are all the liberal politicians who were pushing for better protection for new orleans before this?
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2005.09.02 [09:20] briareus: mRNA: oversimplification
2005.09.02 [09:20] Scoria: mRNA: Not everybody could leave.
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2005.09.02 [09:20] kyhwana: patpatnz: *nods*. Hamiltron was OK while I was there a few months
2005.09.02 [09:20] MissM: Its the water
2005.09.02 [09:20] Infradead: mRNA: ... and how were they supposed to get out?
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2005.09.02 [09:21] Feonix762: mRNA, hard to leave when you're broke or disabled
2005.09.02 [09:21] Belladona: Jesus christ
2005.09.02 [09:21] DeadlyEwok: I can tell you if I were mayor I sure would have been
2005.09.02 [09:21] Yarrbles: no, it's obviously the government's fault... aren't you listening to jesse jackson?
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2005.09.02 [09:22] Infradead: mRNA: How far do you think you can make it, on foot, through swampland, in hurricane weather?
2005.09.02 [09:22] mRNA: the same way they are getting out now....WALKING
2005.09.02 [09:22] Belladona: are these people that unfamilair with the concept of poverty?
2005.09.02 [09:22] Sollord: Izz: You seem to be in your own lil world please shut up
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2005.09.02 [09:22] DrBoB: Red_Eye: but, without water you can die in two or three days
2005.09.02 [09:22] DeadlyEwok: it's not hindsight when the exact same scenario has played out before, geez
2005.09.02 [09:22] izz: wow fuel is at 3.50 a gallon in som,e places in the US lololol
2005.09.02 [09:23] Feonix762: mRNA, they aren't getting out right now
2005.09.02 [09:23] * Infradead preempts mRNA's argument.
2005.09.02 [09:23] patpatnz: fiish: and if you live there, keep a good stock of ammo handy ;)
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2005.09.02 [09:24] London-UK: these guys are toast.
2005.09.02 [09:24] kyhwana: mRNA: hahaha, you try outwalking a 100+ mile WIDE HURRICANE
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2005.09.02 [09:24] izz: i bet it hits 4
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2005.09.02 [09:24] NathanJY: furiousxgeorge: the interdictor blog is a ridiculously biased source
2005.09.02 [09:24] Infradead: mRNA: How far do you think you can make it, on foot, through swampland, in hurricane weather?
2005.09.02 [09:24] Feonix762: izz, fuel is at $6 plus in some places in the US actually
2005.09.02 [09:24] mRNA: they had 2 days warning
2005.09.02 [09:24] Belladona: mRNA: it is 98 degrees and 80% humididty- most of the people there have no water or food and many are old or infirm
2005.09.02 [09:24] Ethek: The Gov has thier crap together... THe guys a Keesler AB are getting 6000 hot meals a day
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2005.09.02 [09:26] Sollord: Gas is $3.59 here
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2005.09.02 [09:26] kyhwana: If the hurricane caught you outside, you're dead, no question
2005.09.02 [09:26] Belladona: HOW i ask are they supposed to walk out of a flooded city?
2005.09.02 [09:26] Infradead: mRNA: Two days isn't long enough to get far enough away walking.
2005.09.02 [09:26] Scoria: mRNA: It's 90 degrees in New Orleans. The floodwater is above your head. There are snakes. There is no water. There is no food.
2005.09.02 [09:26] boofoo: swim? :P
2005.09.02 [09:26] mRNA: sorry but it woulda been better than what they are enduring now
2005.09.02 [09:26] patpatnz: fiish: the rise of immigrant slums is whats going to set it off
2005.09.02 [09:26] Sollord: in michigan
2005.09.02 [09:27] Yarrbles: It's a first person account, of course it's biased
2005.09.02 [09:27] NathanJY: Everyone's first response is "blame the government!"
2005.09.02 [09:27] Ethek: check out (Link: http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24333347.jpg)http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24333347.jpg   the right hand side is Keesler AB.. to the Left.. biloxi. which is devestated
2005.09.02 [09:27] Infradead: mRNA: Please try to think rationally.
2005.09.02 [09:28] Scoria: mRNA: Good luck.
2005.09.02 [09:29] furiousxgeorge: nathan: if you dont like the blog...why are you here sucking up bandwidth?
2005.09.02 [09:29] Sollord: wow lag
2005.09.02 [09:29] socket7: They waited far to long to evacuate. and they had no plan when they dod.
2005.09.02 [09:29] mRNA: im talking before the storm
2005.09.02 [09:29] Yarrbles: but it's a different bias than you see on TV
2005.09.02 [09:30] mRNA: i am thinking rationally
2005.09.02 [09:30] kyhwana: two days might get you 40 miles out of town
2005.09.02 [09:30] fiish: patpatnz: I don't even have a golf club.... Lucky this is Qld and not Sydney, NSW. Here the only immigrants are old people from Victoria
2005.09.02 [09:30] boofoo: does someone post here when it updates? I dont want muiltple windows
2005.09.02 [09:31] boofoo: LOOK it's SHRUB
2005.09.02 [09:32] patpatnz: kyhwana: yup, I have a friend who grew up there and hated it, but he hates is parents so may just be a aspect of that
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2005.09.02 [09:32] NathanJY: furiousxgeorge: why not?  This isn't #pro-interdictor
2005.09.02 [09:32] Sollord: ...
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2005.09.02 [09:32] boofoo: how come that ass isn't RUNNING to the helicopter?
2005.09.02 [09:33] MissM: dubya is leaving for the coast now
2005.09.02 [09:33] Belladona: dubya
2005.09.02 [09:33] Scoria: mRNA: Those left in New Orleans repesent the "poorest of the poor."
2005.09.02 [09:33] kyhwana: patpatnz: hehehe, well, like I said, I grew up in a rural ass down
2005.09.02 [09:33] postmodern: don't forget the flood water is probably contaiminated
2005.09.02 [09:34] mRNA: i have lived in hurricane areas all my life and when they tell me to leave i GTFO no matter what
2005.09.02 [09:34] Belladona: is on tv
2005.09.02 [09:34] Feonix762: NathanJY, we've spent BILLIONS on "national security and emergency response" and this is what we get? Absolutly nothing!
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2005.09.02 [09:35] Scoria: mRNA: You have money.
2005.09.02 [09:35] Infradead: mRNA: If you tried to walk out of NOLA in the two days warning they were given, you'd be DEAD. If a gator didn't get you, the weather would, because you'd have NO shelter. It's less rational to try to walk out of NOLA in hurricane weather than it is to hole up in the shelter you have available.
2005.09.02 [09:35] skep: any new from fuel3?
2005.09.02 [09:35] postmodern: with chemicals and rotting corpses
2005.09.02 [09:35] Belladona: must be ncie to ahve the means to leave mrna
2005.09.02 [09:35] mRNA: no i dont!
2005.09.02 [09:35] furiousxgeorge: and who exactly are you getting your info from that is more trustworthy than eyewitnesses?
2005.09.02 [09:35] * Sollord hides in a damp cold place for ever voting for this fucktard
2005.09.02 [09:36] Scoria: mRNA: You're on the Internet.
2005.09.02 [09:36] Sollord: dark damp
2005.09.02 [09:36] Scoria: mRNA: Compared to the people we're discussing, you have money.
2005.09.02 [09:36] * boofoo beats Sollord
2005.09.02 [09:36] London-UK: the sewage is gonna be a big problem at 90 degrees and no clean water in sight for weeks
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2005.09.02 [09:37] NathanJY: Feonix762: So you're an expert on emergency response now?  Ok, please outline me the standard policies and procedures taken for a category 5 hurricane.
2005.09.02 [09:37] jv: millions of tons of food
2005.09.02 [09:37] mRNA: i am a single mother who is also a full time student...i live on student loans and well BELOW the poverty level
2005.09.02 [09:37] DskoSpke: I heard something on the radio about explosions in NE. Any news?
2005.09.02 [09:38] Belladona: do you have a car?
2005.09.02 [09:38] izz: yeah there is going to be some serious out breaks of god knows what if they diont get their fucking acts together
2005.09.02 [09:38] spectros: ugh, the idiot speaks again (watching CNN)
2005.09.02 [09:38] boofoo: NathanJY, drop some nukes from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
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2005.09.02 [09:39] socket7: NathanJY: quite simple really. you get the fuck out.
2005.09.02 [09:39] patpatnz: fiish: heh, sweet, they're easy to get with some tube socks ;)
2005.09.02 [09:40] fiish: LOL
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2005.09.02 [09:40] Belladona: mRNA: I ask again do you have a car?
2005.09.02 [09:40] boofoo: oh wait, wrong catagory five emergency
2005.09.02 [09:40] Chrisbert: again with the thanking
2005.09.02 [09:40] socket7: NathanJY:you do not "ride out" a cat5 hurricane
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2005.09.02 [09:40] mRNA: no
2005.09.02 [09:40] NathanJY: furiousxgeorge: I'm relying on credible news sources who can watch from helicopters and actually have something called "journalistic integrity"
2005.09.02 [09:40] patpatnz: kyhwana: rural childhood rocks :)
2005.09.02 [09:41] Sollord: haha
2005.09.02 [09:41] skep: DskoSpke, there seems to be some explosions from gas-leaks..thats all...
2005.09.02 [09:41] Ethek: Which senator said they should bulldoze New Olreans ?
2005.09.02 [09:41] socket7: you run away.
2005.09.02 [09:41] Infradead: mRNA: Are you saying that you'd risk your children to hurricane weather, without shelter, because you wanted to WALK through a swamp to get away from shelter?
2005.09.02 [09:41] kyhwana: patpatnz: hehehe
2005.09.02 [09:41] MissM: Rep. Hastert
2005.09.02 [09:41] Sollord: Bush just said the result were no exceptable-.-
2005.09.02 [09:41] Eclipsed: 'The results are not acceptable' - GWB
2005.09.02 [09:41] spectros: no
2005.09.02 [09:41] * Infradead taps his fingers.
2005.09.02 [09:41] DskoSpke: That's what I assumed. Thanks skep
2005.09.02 [09:41] izz: they were saying the other day that they have known for quite some time the leavy banks needed to be boosted but they never bothered
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2005.09.02 [09:42] boofoo: wtf the reulst are 'unacceptable?"  failing your driving test is unacceptable.  this is a joke :P
2005.09.02 [09:42] mRNA: if i had 2 days notice hell yes i would
2005.09.02 [09:42] altai: LOL your discussion about escaping on foot is just funny
2005.09.02 [09:43] spectros: you don't, my house in Homstead got demo'd in Andrew
2005.09.02 [09:43] Belladona: you gonna walk through hurricane weather with your kids?
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2005.09.02 [09:43] furiousxgeorge: Nathan: and which one of those credible sources says the people at the convention center got relief before now?
2005.09.02 [09:43] spectros: you get the hell out long before
2005.09.02 [09:43] Ryan-: I have family in NO, and I'm telling you those that chose not to leave (including my family) made a grave mistake, and really have no right to bitch at anyone :(
2005.09.02 [09:44] kyhwana: mRNA: you'd be lucky to make it to BR, and BR got fucked up too
2005.09.02 [09:44] Scoria: mRNA: Where would you go?
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2005.09.02 [09:44] mRNA: well i see on tv they are walking now but thru some ghansty water with dead bodies
2005.09.02 [09:44] Feonix762: NathanJY, I didn't say I'm an expert.. I'm saying that for the last 5 years of our president's job he has been talking about enhancing our security and emergency preparedness.. he started a fucking organization called the Department of Homeland Security.. and here we are, in the biggest disaster EVER to strike the US.. and there's no federeal aid coming in outside of water being pushed off trucks and overwhealmed n
2005.09.02 [09:45] Feonix762: ational guard cause the rest are deployed in Iraq
2005.09.02 [09:45] socket7: NathanJY: I'd be hard pressed to prove that any american news organization has journalistic integrity.
2005.09.02 [09:46] Sollord: STAY IN DC ASSHAT!
2005.09.02 [09:46] boofoo: how come when bush talks i want to throw things at the tv?
2005.09.02 [09:46] kyhwana: BR is _80_ miles away, no way you'd make it there in two days, though.
2005.09.02 [09:46] NathanJY: socket7: I know, they tried that, but it wasn't quick enough obviously.  It's not like they know a week in advance that a CAT-5 hurricane is coming
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2005.09.02 [09:47] Scoria: mRNA: You couldn't have possibly walked to an area not encompassed by the diameter of Katrina within two days.
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2005.09.02 [09:47] izz: socket7 which is why i watch sbs or bbc.
2005.09.02 [09:48] spectros: bofoo:it's just natural..;)
2005.09.02 [09:48] skep: boofoo, it shows that you are very normal ;)
2005.09.02 [09:48] mRNA: i would go away from a place 12 feet below sealevel
2005.09.02 [09:48] phenom: Please, if you are poor and have no where else to go what are you going to do?
2005.09.02 [09:49] boofoo: i thought it was my medication.
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2005.09.02 [09:49] socket7: NathanJY: they did know a week in advance there was a storm
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2005.09.02 [09:49] Infradead: mRNA: Which is vastly easier than through swampland during a hurricane.
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2005.09.02 [09:49] izz: shit even al jazzera tells a more truthful version of any event then cnn does
2005.09.02 [09:49] Ethek: It wasnt the Feds job to stage emergency response with state owned gaurd troops.. It was the state Gov'rs
2005.09.02 [09:50] altai: Nature is a terrorist - i think we should add it to the list of terror organisations, freeze its bank assets, and start uprooting all the trees RIGHT NOW
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2005.09.02 [09:51] Belladona: mRNA: youa re gonna walk through 70mph winds with your kids
2005.09.02 [09:51] mRNA: all im saying is i would have TRIED
2005.09.02 [09:51] Ryan-: phenom:  a bus ticket isnt that expensive, sorry.
2005.09.02 [09:51] Belladona: i dont buy it
2005.09.02 [09:51] socket7: they thought they could survive it because they had gotten lucky in the past
2005.09.02 [09:52] Daraq: mRNA: Average person walks 5 miles an hour, and if you have children you can expect to walk more than 8-10 hours a day so max distance you have is 40-50 miles
2005.09.02 [09:52] NathanJY: socket7: but they didn't know it was cat-5.  they can't evacuate for every single storm
2005.09.02 [09:52] fuol: lol @ altai
2005.09.02 [09:52] boofoo: does flying with superpowers through hurricane winds count?
2005.09.02 [09:52] MissM: Grehound bailed NO early, I believe
2005.09.02 [09:52] DreamWolf: mrna would have died triing
2005.09.02 [09:53] Karotte: I mirrored the pictures2 directory from nola: (Link: http://nola.sites.karotte.org:81/pictures2/)http://nola.sites.karotte.org:81/pictures2/
2005.09.02 [09:53] Belladona: boofooLOL
2005.09.02 [09:53] postmodern: mRNA, TRIED and DIED more like it
2005.09.02 [09:53] Feonix762: NathanJY, the top THREE critical things that could happen in the US included a hurricane hitting NO.. it was known for THREE YEARS before this even happened..
2005.09.02 [09:53] izz: they didnt know it was catagory 5 until 2 days before i think
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2005.09.02 [09:54] mRNA: heh i guess its survival of the fittest...i woulda died trying if need be
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2005.09.02 [09:54] boofoo: i totally think we need the X-men, and maybe the Avengers too, doubt the fantastic four would help much.
2005.09.02 [09:54] DskoSpke: lol altai
2005.09.02 [09:55] socket7: NathanJY: Bush could could have not cut 80% of the funding for rebuilding the levees
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2005.09.02 [09:55] NathanJY: Feonix762: No federal aid, or so says some some internet bloggers
2005.09.02 [09:56] Daraq: From what I understand greyhound was closed >before< the hurricane arrived
2005.09.02 [09:56] MissM: and then where would your kids be?
2005.09.02 [09:56] Tool_of_Society: Nathan it was growing some time ago
2005.09.02 [09:56] Belladona: and those who stayed were smart enough to survive
2005.09.02 [09:56] Scoria: Furthermore, examine the number of people who were supposed to evacuate. It was a logistical nightmare.
2005.09.02 [09:57] inter102: the city did nothing but warn the ppl verbally...they should have had transportation picking up people the whole weekend and evacuating them out of the city
2005.09.02 [09:58] Belladona: gues they were more fit
2005.09.02 [09:58] Belladona: eh?
2005.09.02 [09:58] phenom: The government is to blame for this. 14 million could have avoided the whole thing.
2005.09.02 [09:58] Tool_of_Society: cat 5 or cat 4 it's still deadly
2005.09.02 [09:58] fuol: sif teh incredibles wouldnt own
2005.09.02 [09:59] socket7: seeing as it was the 3rd most likely natural disaster to occour in the united states and all.
2005.09.02 [09:59] NathanJY: Tool_of_Society: All hurricanes grow, what's your point?
2005.09.02 [09:59] Feonix762: NathanJY, or so says the PEOPLE I TALKED TO ON THE PHONE.. DERRRR.. You don't even know who you're talking to
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2005.09.02 [10:00] izz: call the thunderbirds
2005.09.02 [10:00] Wedge^: you don't walk 5 miles an hour
2005.09.02 [10:00] izz: THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO!!!
2005.09.02 [10:00] boofoo: you do if you're thrown off a hill.
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2005.09.02 [10:00] NathanJY: Feonix762: And these people know that there has been no federal aid, how?
2005.09.02 [10:00] Belladona: Wedge^: with small children?
2005.09.02 [10:01] kyhwana: you don't walk 5 miles an hour with children and loaded down with food and water
2005.09.02 [10:01] fiish: Screw the thunderbirds. We need   VOLTRON!!!
2005.09.02 [10:01] spectros: i run 20 when I'm scared
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2005.09.02 [10:02] boofoo: i leave skid marks when i'm scared.
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2005.09.02 [10:02] izz: kyhwana just car jack someone ;\
2005.09.02 [10:03] Wedge^: Belladona: if you're fit you walk about 5km an hour
2005.09.02 [10:03] Feonix762: NathanJY, you have got NO idea what the situation is there and you need to rethink what you're saying before you start berating people for complaining that the government still hasn't responded to the worst natural disaster in the history of our country
2005.09.02 [10:03] Diorama: try running for a day
2005.09.02 [10:03] DskoSpke: Wedge^, you could if you had plenty of water ;)
2005.09.02 [10:04] Diorama: Your'e not forrest gump
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2005.09.02 [10:04] noahvale: what's the Baton Rouge scanner link?
2005.09.02 [10:04] Wedge^: heh
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2005.09.02 [10:05] boofoo: this is the worst natural disaster, until the next one.
2005.09.02 [10:05] Belladona: a 5 year old doesnt
2005.09.02 [10:05] Midas: You can't walk that fast through water
2005.09.02 [10:05] NathanJY: Feonix762: They haven't responded?  WTF?  Sending in the military and federal aid isn't responding?
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2005.09.02 [10:06] fuol: wade
2005.09.02 [10:06] Belladona: Wedge first km are not miles and a 5 yr old child cannot walk either of those distances in an hour
2005.09.02 [10:07] Ethek: Like I said the State Gov's dropped the ball.. not the feds
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2005.09.02 [10:07] boofoo: where'd all the ak-47s come from?
2005.09.02 [10:07] Sollord: Damn
2005.09.02 [10:07] fiish: Russia
2005.09.02 [10:07] Sollord: Gun stores
2005.09.02 [10:07] altai: boofoo : stores
2005.09.02 [10:08] DskoSpke: crivvens
2005.09.02 [10:08] Feonix762: NathanJY, what federal aid? Do you want me to send you a link to the director of FEMA doing an interview on CNN and he's BEING INFORMED OF THE SITUATION DURING THE INTERVIEW? He didn't know people were at the convention center, he didn't know a god damn thing
2005.09.02 [10:08] postmodern: NathanJY, the point is it took 5 days to just send the aid in
2005.09.02 [10:08] Midas: Most aren't Ak-47s
2005.09.02 [10:08] haste: cams moving
2005.09.02 [10:08] NathanJY: Tool_of_Society: I should note, there have been tons of hurricanes down there, if they evacuated for every single potentially bad hurricane it would get ridiculous
2005.09.02 [10:08] altai: boofoo : why sell these things in a civilised country..
2005.09.02 [10:08] Scoria: The stream is moving.
2005.09.02 [10:08] postmodern: NathanJY, that is unacceptable in my book
2005.09.02 [10:08] izz: fuck the old an frail , leave them there, itsjust natures way of natural selection :X
2005.09.02 [10:08] Diorama: Akm's?
2005.09.02 [10:08] Belladona: what the fuck is up with people wanting to blame the poor, old and sick who are stuck down there dehydrating to death?
2005.09.02 [10:08] Ethek: States don't like the feds ganking  natl gaurd troops from state control.. especiall for a desaster that hasnt happend yet
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2005.09.02 [10:08] boofoo: you can get one that easy in america?
2005.09.02 [10:09] fuol: Ethek: one word 'federal government apologist' , ok thats three
2005.09.02 [10:10] Scoria: haste: Is it dark for you, too?
2005.09.02 [10:10] fiish: See it's a plot by the Russians. We need to liberate them from their Soviet gun-supplying aggressors now!
2005.09.02 [10:10] Wedge^: Belladona: the person above said 5 miles, I just said that 5km is more reasonable (on dry flat ground)
2005.09.02 [10:11] Sollord: It's possible gun shopshas real Aks
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2005.09.02 [10:11] postmodern: yes let's see this link
2005.09.02 [10:11] haste: yes scoria
2005.09.02 [10:12] izz: fuol err thyats three words
2005.09.02 [10:12] postmodern: i want to read the FEMA interview
2005.09.02 [10:13] DskoSpke: belladona, agreed
2005.09.02 [10:13] haste: looked like it fell over
2005.09.02 [10:13] Wedge^: 5 miles is about 8km
2005.09.02 [10:13] kyhwana: boofoo: you can get semi-auto AK's easy as nothin.
2005.09.02 [10:13] Feonix762: Belladona, they're young and stupid
2005.09.02 [10:14] Infradead: mRNA: If it was just you, I wouldn't have a problem with you committing suicide by trying to walk through swampland during a hurricane. Considering that you have at least one child that you are responsible for, attempting to do so with them in tow is UNETHICAL.
2005.09.02 [10:14] NathanJY: postmodern: Er, 5 days--when did it actually hit?
2005.09.02 [10:15] boofoo: ooh, cool, when i become a citizen ii'll stock up :P
2005.09.02 [10:15] patpatnz: Belladona: if you want sympathy you shouldn't be poor, old or sick?
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2005.09.02 [10:15] Belladona: apparently
2005.09.02 [10:16] hydroksyde: When I tried walking from new plymouth to wellington (~300Km), i found that my average speed was 5Km/H
2005.09.02 [10:16] Eclipsed: egads.. even cnn is taking up the battle meme.. top headline "BATTLE FOR NEW ORLEANS"
2005.09.02 [10:16] Belladona: *boggles the mind*
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2005.09.02 [10:16] izz: 1010, i only see 600
2005.09.02 [10:16] NathanJY: Feonix762: If there were people at the convention center, then obviously some government employees directed them there
2005.09.02 [10:17] fuol: lets watch the federal<->state blame game and see who wins...
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2005.09.02 [10:17] Scoria: It's moving again.
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2005.09.02 [10:17] Ethek: All  im saying ti was the state govoners job to state resources to control the situation immediatly after the storm. it didnt happen
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2005.09.02 [10:18] Sollord: THe feds aren't doing enough till i see the 82nd airborne moving in wiht the 4th id and the 1st marines.
2005.09.02 [10:18] Ethek: er stage
2005.09.02 [10:19] fiish: hydroksyde: Wtf you walked 300km?
2005.09.02 [10:19] furiousxgeorge: nathan: reports are they were directed there and kinda forgotten about with all the drama at the superdome
2005.09.02 [10:19] noahvale: what's the link to the scanner feed in Baton Rouge ?
2005.09.02 [10:19] fiish: were you high?
2005.09.02 [10:20] Belladona: fiish: dont feed the troll
2005.09.02 [10:20] NathanJY: Feonix762: Additionally, the director is just one of many people in FEMA.  He's not awake 24/7, so he can't be informed 24/7
2005.09.02 [10:20] hydroksyde: fiish:: tried.
2005.09.02 [10:20] Feonix762: NathanJY, actually no the police directed them there because they didn't know what else to tell them.. and the people there are recieving NO HELP because no one knows they're there because 60% of the NOPD has quit and there is no communication between any agencies.. people were told to go wait there and they've been there for days with no help
2005.09.02 [10:20] kyhwana: hydroksyde: how long did that take you?
2005.09.02 [10:21] haste: Scoria.. didn't move for me.. maybe I'm doing something wrong.. <G>
2005.09.02 [10:21] izz: ethek thats bullshit they made calls for help and for resources, its up to the fed giov to supply what they dont already got
2005.09.02 [10:21] spectros: you can see Donny's reflection
2005.09.02 [10:22] spectros: :)
2005.09.02 [10:22] Scoria: haste: ;-)
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2005.09.02 [10:22] spectros: hehehe
2005.09.02 [10:22] izz: thats what the national guard is for etc..
2005.09.02 [10:22] spectros: that red shirt
2005.09.02 [10:22] Feonix762: NathanJY, they have been sitting there for over 3 days.. you can't tell me he's been asleep for 3 days
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2005.09.02 [10:23] izz: notg state troopers.
2005.09.02 [10:23] Tool_of_Society: welcome to a buearacy(sp)
2005.09.02 [10:23] patpatnz: hydroksyde: I cycled round the south island (>1000km) it was fun
2005.09.02 [10:23] sigtom: hell one PD officer quit on air and it was on the scanner feeds earlier
2005.09.02 [10:24] skep: noahvale, (Link: http://216.14.30.229:8001/)http://216.14.30.229:8001/
2005.09.02 [10:24] boofoo: how does that work? if you're a cop and you quit in an emergency, isn't that treason and dereliction of duty or ops don't have that type of thing?
2005.09.02 [10:24] noahvale: thnks
2005.09.02 [10:24] izz: i am suprised bush did not go on holidays after the storm hit like he did after sep11
2005.09.02 [10:24] DskoSpke: Any links for scanner feeds?
2005.09.02 [10:25] kyhwana: boofoo: probably just breach of contract or anything else like a normal job where you don't show up
2005.09.02 [10:25] Feonix762: NathanJY, you are seriously just looking for ways to justify a failure of our governments emergency preparedness and I can't understand why
2005.09.02 [10:26] NathanJY: Feonix762: No one knows they're there?  It's national news!  How can hundreds of millions knowing qualify is no one knowing?  How can you know that there is no communication between the agencies?
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2005.09.02 [10:26] fuol: Ethek: given the scale of the disaster, with the UN/NATO/everyone offering help
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2005.09.02 [10:27] Belladona: Feonix762: dont feed the trolls
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2005.09.02 [10:27] NathanJY: Feonix762: Your figure is wrong, only 20% of the NOPD didn't show up, not 60%
2005.09.02 [10:27] postmodern: DskoSpke, check the topic for the wiki page
2005.09.02 [10:27] furiousxgeorge: izz: he did not go on vacation after 9/11, he was on vacation before it, just like this one
2005.09.02 [10:27] DskoSpke: thanks postmodern
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2005.09.02 [10:27] izz: furiousxgeorge yeah but wouldnt a normal person cut their trip short?
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2005.09.02 [10:28] haste: it moved again..
2005.09.02 [10:28] Feonix762: NathanJY, because I just watched the FEMA director say he didn't know they were there which proves both of my points
2005.09.02 [10:28] NathanJY: Feonix762: No, you're seriously looking for a way to scapegoat a natural disaster on someone.   You can't handle the fact that it happened, so you look for a person to blame
2005.09.02 [10:28] crschmidt: furiousxgeorge: wasn't he in the middle of reading to a kindergarten class during 9/11?
2005.09.02 [10:28] izz: you would be like omfg my people need me lets go.
2005.09.02 [10:29] hydroksyde: kyhwana:: well, on thurs morning walked to inglewood, hitchhiked to stratford, walked to eltham, stayed there for the night, walked to hawera, took a bus to wanganui, stayed for night, decided to go home on saturday
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2005.09.02 [10:29] Ethek: Its not crap.. remember the base closing commisison. State Gov'rs were getting furious that the pentagon wanted to close 'state' guard bases.. since states own the guard in peacetime.  The feds apprived funding before the eyewall was over land.
2005.09.02 [10:30] Sollord: Hell lets get Texas to fully mobilize since the Fed can't do anything
2005.09.02 [10:30] Feonix762: Belladona, you're right..
2005.09.02 [10:30] Cheebo: If I may...
2005.09.02 [10:30] postmodern: if you havn't noticed, Bush is on vacation most all the time
2005.09.02 [10:30] boofoo: we should plan that when bush goes on vacation, calamity follows.
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2005.09.02 [10:31] NathanJY: Feonix762: How does a single guy not knowing prove your point that NO ONE out of millions knew?
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2005.09.02 [10:31] krystal`bed: landing where?
2005.09.02 [10:32] mRNA: in NO
2005.09.02 [10:32] krystal`bed: for?
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2005.09.02 [10:32] sigtom: help?
2005.09.02 [10:32] mRNA: im just relaying what fox says
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2005.09.02 [10:32] b0rgy: well krystal you said no one answered your questions, mabey because they dont have nice answers either
2005.09.02 [10:32] mRNA: rescue!!
2005.09.02 [10:33] Wileama: oh so they've stopped dropping stuff out the door then?
2005.09.02 [10:33] krystal: then say you dont know
2005.09.02 [10:33] mRNA: noone is gonna answer ur questions if u keep asking rediculous ones
2005.09.02 [10:34] krystal: dont just ignore me
2005.09.02 [10:34] sh4n3: anyone have the URL for the cam feed?
2005.09.02 [10:34] boofoo: why is the sky blue?
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2005.09.02 [10:34] b0rgy: lol
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2005.09.02 [10:34] boofoo: ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!!
2005.09.02 [10:34] krystal: its not rediculous to ask why the trucks are there
2005.09.02 [10:34] krystal: jesus
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2005.09.02 [10:35] boofoo: they are trying to restore service, obviously
2005.09.02 [10:35] mRNA: lmao boofoo
2005.09.02 [10:35] krystal: the cam is down sh4n3
2005.09.02 [10:36] Uebtu: (Link: http://old.mises.org:88/NO2)http://old.mises.org:88/NO2
2005.09.02 [10:36] b0rgy: i cant believe this has happened
2005.09.02 [10:36] sigtom: they are there cause they need to be
2005.09.02 [10:36] Wileama: yeah but the question was what kind of rescue
2005.09.02 [10:37] mRNA: they are prolly there to visit borboun street
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2005.09.02 [10:37] Wileama: it could be food drop off
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2005.09.02 [10:37] Wileama: it could be to take people
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2005.09.02 [10:37] mRNA: i think they are trying to get peopleout
2005.09.02 [10:37] Wileama: it could be to deliever ipods to keep people calm
2005.09.02 [10:37] DreamWolf: boofoo , god had some paint left after he/she finished the ocean
2005.09.02 [10:37] mRNA: that is the goal today
2005.09.02 [10:37] boofoo: oh, good idea, he diluted it!
2005.09.02 [10:38] b0rgy: mRNA they said lastnight that the national guard was going in finally , have they yet, do you know?
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2005.09.02 [10:38] mRNA: i have heard that there is more of a presnece there but i dont know specifics
2005.09.02 [10:38] CryptoCat: b0rgy: listen to the NG scanner stream and you'll know
2005.09.02 [10:38] b0rgy: lol dreamwolf good answer, gotta remember it when my kids ask
2005.09.02 [10:38] krystal: SO SARCASTIC!
2005.09.02 [10:38] b0rgy: cyrpto i have no ears on this pc
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2005.09.02 [10:38] b0rgy: and im scared to turn on the tv, been crying on and off for the past few days
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2005.09.02 [10:38] DC-Australia: crying?
2005.09.02 [10:38] DC-Australia: oh my
2005.09.02 [10:39] boofoo: bye, back soon.
2005.09.02 [10:39] jas_: and to top it all off we're having precursor events in Southern California.... earthquake swarms.... *sigh*
2005.09.02 [10:39] rapier: does anyone know a website with a listing of obituaries?
2005.09.02 [10:39] Matt_H: NO Is burning
2005.09.02 [10:40] \lart: Our church is getting a team together to send down (we're a couple thousand members in NJ).  other than the obvious  things - food, water, diapers, baby formula, what do we need to bring the most?
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2005.09.02 [10:40] DreamWolf: damn b0rgy, than you can never turn on your tv ?
2005.09.02 [10:40] b0rgy: great jas just what i needed to hear
2005.09.02 [10:41] The_Tick: b0rgy: listen to pacifica
2005.09.02 [10:41] AnimalChin: What's an earthquake swarm?
2005.09.02 [10:42] The_Tick: democracy now is on right now
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2005.09.02 [10:42] DC-Australia: jas: hint: move to australia; land of poisonous snakes, crocodiles, and other natural hazards that respond to lethal force
2005.09.02 [10:43] b0rgy: lol dream yeah i can, just not watch the news
2005.09.02 [10:43] asdfasdf: NO is burning? how many fires - i thought just one explosion?
2005.09.02 [10:43] b0rgy: man be nice
2005.09.02 [10:44] The_Tick: and they are telling folks what's happening there
2005.09.02 [10:44] briareus: AnimalChin: its the wave of rolling tremors and temblors
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2005.09.02 [10:45] mcsmurf: cryptophiliacgo straight to fairgrounds, pick up the nextel communications people
2005.09.02 [10:45] jas_: DC-Australia, I'm in Perth 8-)
2005.09.02 [10:46] mcsmurf: heh
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2005.09.02 [10:46] b0rgy: animal a bunch of earthquakes one after the next
2005.09.02 [10:46] London-UK: Perth is full of cute surfy chicks
2005.09.02 [10:46] b0rgy: i assume
2005.09.02 [10:46] DC-Australia: haha
2005.09.02 [10:46] jas_: (Link: http://www.data.scec.org/recenteqs/Maps/116-33.html)http://www.data.scec.org/recenteqs/Maps/116-33.html
2005.09.02 [10:47] AnimalChin: briar:  learn to swim.
2005.09.02 [10:47] Matt_H: Downtown a building is Burning look at the video feed
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2005.09.02 [10:47] rapier: London-UK: sure is :P
2005.09.02 [10:47] Bklyn: url?
2005.09.02 [10:47] briareus: AnimalChin: earthquakes arent one big fracture, its a hive of smaller ones
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2005.09.02 [10:48] DreamWolf: b0rgy , true true , but even the rest is pretty depressing over here :)
2005.09.02 [10:48] princessfrozen: does anybody know of any other found persons resources besides the one on cnn.com
2005.09.02 [10:48] AnimalChin: oh
2005.09.02 [10:48] princessfrozen: i have a coworker looking for his father
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2005.09.02 [10:48] jconway963: (Link: http://wx.gulfcoastnews.com/katrina/status.aspx)http://wx.gulfcoastnews.com/katrina/status.aspx <--mississippi coast
2005.09.02 [10:48] Aradorn: is there a feed up from the NO natl guard?
2005.09.02 [10:49] mRNA: 8 mile long convoy of rescue serach and relief
2005.09.02 [10:49] Petro: When are Sig's pictures coming up?
2005.09.02 [10:49] princessfrozen: last heard he was headed toward the super dome 4 days ago
2005.09.02 [10:50] Matt_H: try craigs list to find people
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2005.09.02 [10:50] furiousxgeorge: thank god for that convoy, order should be restored in the near future
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2005.09.02 [10:50] DC-Australia: matth: or one-legged transvestites in the bay area that like jell-o and bsdm
2005.09.02 [10:50] b0rgy: lol
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2005.09.02 [10:50] AnimalChin: lmao
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2005.09.02 [10:50] Aradorn: lol
2005.09.02 [10:50] b0rgy: im in modesto ca
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2005.09.02 [10:51] DC-Australia: I went and looked at that site once
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2005.09.02 [10:51] awormus: anyone have a working link ot the cam?
2005.09.02 [10:51] DC-Australia: and I thought I'd seen everything driving through the gay area in Sydney
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2005.09.02 [10:52] DC-Australia: I had not seen everything
2005.09.02 [10:52] boofoo: don't knock jello and bdsm.
2005.09.02 [10:52] Grider: Misses feed is down ATM
2005.09.02 [10:53] AnimalChin: DC are you australian or just there
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2005.09.02 [10:53] Uebtu: (Link: http://old.mises.org:88/NO2)http://old.mises.org:88/NO2
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2005.09.02 [10:53] raghtal: (Link: http://old.mises.org:88/NO2)http://old.mises.org:88/NO2  <-- keep getting nework errors
2005.09.02 [10:53] DC-Australia: animal: australian and in australia
2005.09.02 [10:53] Uebtu: hmm
2005.09.02 [10:54] Uebtu: working fine here
2005.09.02 [10:54] mathx:  
2005.09.02 [10:54] mathx: NEED VOLONTEERS FOR SCANNER 2 CHANNEL PLEASE, /msg an OP from the chan
2005.09.02 [10:54] mathx:  
2005.09.02 [10:54] AnimalChin: oi mate
2005.09.02 [10:54] DC-Australia: guilty on both charges
2005.09.02 [10:55] mRNA: second convoy coming in now
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2005.09.02 [10:55] Matt_H: sounds like a good night on sydneys oxford st trasvesites DSDM and Jello
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2005.09.02 [10:55] Matt_H: BDSM
2005.09.02 [10:56] mathx: matt_h: kinda keep it a BIT on topic?
2005.09.02 [10:56] boofoo: YES, bdsm = fun :P
2005.09.02 [10:57] AnimalChin: i think i need to go to australia.  from what i hear it's definitley my kind of place/people
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2005.09.02 [10:57] DC-Australia: matth: one of my clients is down the road
2005.09.02 [10:57] DC-Australia: and I dunno which is worse
2005.09.02 [10:57] DC-Australia: the bums on the streets
2005.09.02 [10:58] DC-Australia: or the hookers
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2005.09.02 [10:58] fiish: Also, for anyone moving to Australia. Please be aware of Drop Bears. They're about the only thing here that can eat you. (Link: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3695/db.htm)http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3695/db.htm
2005.09.02 [10:58] AnimalChin: jello or bdsm?  i think jello is worse
2005.09.02 [10:58] briareus: SOMEONE PLEASE RELIEVE MATHX in channel2 please, i cnat i have to go
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2005.09.02 [10:59] b0rgy: yeah im getting errors too on teh cam
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2005.09.02 [10:59] Encapsulate: fiish: Also: Honey badgers
2005.09.02 [11:00] b0rgy: i would if i could sorry
2005.09.02 [11:00] rapier: i'd relieve him but i can't understand their accents :P
2005.09.02 [11:00] Encapsulate: though, I think they're in africa
2005.09.02 [11:00] b0rgy: @ relieving the person
2005.09.02 [11:00] Tomcat: fiish: I beg to differ, there's heaps of things out the can eat you
2005.09.02 [11:00] ZexGX: i've been trying to record the cam - and i could if i had a direct link ;\
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2005.09.02 [11:01] mRNA: matth what kinda help do they need
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2005.09.02 [11:01] mathx: they need help transcribing the feed to the channel
2005.09.02 [11:01] briareus: mRNA: transcribing what you hear in channel 2
2005.09.02 [11:02] zdivisor: hi
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2005.09.02 [11:02] fiish: Oh other than the crocodiles, hoop snakes and yes thanks Encapsulate - the Honey Badgers
2005.09.02 [11:03] mathx: go watch how its done and volonteer in a bit
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2005.09.02 [11:03] mathx: #interdictor-scanner or scanner2 or scanner3
2005.09.02 [11:03] mRNA: k
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2005.09.02 [11:03] mRNA: yah im in both
2005.09.02 [11:03] mRNA: i got 3 goin now
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2005.09.02 [11:03] Encapsulate: But if you can eat the Honey Badger, before it eats you, it is the sweetest thing on earth.
2005.09.02 [11:03] Loiosh-Reg: #interdictor-scanner3
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2005.09.02 [11:04] mcsmurf: ZexGX: is (Link: http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans)http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans not good enough?
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2005.09.02 [11:04] fiish: Tomcat: What else here can eat you other than a big mofo of a python?
2005.09.02 [11:04] mathx: briareus: I am not transcribing tho heh :) Im trying to run a billion other things here.
2005.09.02 [11:04] mRNA: in winamp
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2005.09.02 [11:05] ZexGX: trying that now
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2005.09.02 [11:05] mathx: AND i gotta go to work do some real work
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2005.09.02 [11:05] princessfrozen: there is no cell service in NO right now, correct?
2005.09.02 [11:06] plowman: The former chairman of the congressional black caucus is on CNN right now
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2005.09.02 [11:06] DC-Australia: on fox too
2005.09.02 [11:06] ZexGX: ahh thanks mcsmurf
2005.09.02 [11:06] ZexGX: that's perfect
2005.09.02 [11:07] CSMan: where was that huge explosion ?
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2005.09.02 [11:07] plowman: :)
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2005.09.02 [11:07] plowman: at least it's not Jesse Jackson
2005.09.02 [11:08] Matt_H: theres cell service in NO but is sporadic
2005.09.02 [11:08] mcsmurf: scanner3 is the busing channel ;)
2005.09.02 [11:08] DWPhil: CSMan, they say it was near the docks, possibly a chemical factory
2005.09.02 [11:09] Irony_: in the cental business district across from Harah's on Canal st
2005.09.02 [11:09] DC-Australia: I thought he was still down in venezela trying to act like condi
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2005.09.02 [11:09] ZexGX: except it just stopped..
2005.09.02 [11:09] mcsmurf: what does the "10 4" mean they always say?
2005.09.02 [11:09] AnimalChin: "message received"
2005.09.02 [11:10] rapier: "OK"
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2005.09.02 [11:10] AnimalChin: nope.
2005.09.02 [11:10] mcsmurf: ZexGX: it's always buffering
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2005.09.02 [11:10] rapier: (Link: http://www.dailygrunt.info/policecodes.htm)http://www.dailygrunt.info/policecodes.htm
2005.09.02 [11:10] mcsmurf: more or less
2005.09.02 [11:10] mcsmurf: ah thanks
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2005.09.02 [11:10] ZexGX: well, i guess i can't get anything better as of now - bbl
2005.09.02 [11:11] AnimalChin: 10-4 means "Message Received"
2005.09.02 [11:11] b0rgy: lol mcsmurf google.com is your best friend
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2005.09.02 [11:11] mcsmurf: :P
2005.09.02 [11:11] mcsmurf: irc is so much easier... ;)
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2005.09.02 [11:11] Loiosh-Reg: Heh
2005.09.02 [11:11] b0rgy: omfg
2005.09.02 [11:11] AnimalChin: 10-4 no it's not.
2005.09.02 [11:11] DskoSpke: US is refusing international help
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2005.09.02 [11:12] DskoSpke: (UK Sky news)
2005.09.02 [11:12] drip: so, where is cheney these days?
2005.09.02 [11:13] b0rgy: dsko andthat surprises you
2005.09.02 [11:13] Wileama: dsko: are you serious?!
2005.09.02 [11:13] b0rgy: our president is an idiot
2005.09.02 [11:13] DskoSpke: Not really, after what the venesuelans did
2005.09.02 [11:13] Matt_H: Cheney is probaly i a bunker today
2005.09.02 [11:14] jas_: Cheney is still on Holiday.
2005.09.02 [11:14] jas_: Seriously.
2005.09.02 [11:14] b0rgy: wileama, there are numerous contries that have offered thier help, i doubt they will accept any of it
2005.09.02 [11:14] Matt_H: in case GWets killed
2005.09.02 [11:14] DC-Australia: borgy: he beat kerry; get over it
2005.09.02 [11:14] DreamWolf: DskoSpke, any reasons given why ?
2005.09.02 [11:15] Sefriel: UK Sky - pentagon feed on military briefing
2005.09.02 [11:15] Irony_: who cares where he is
2005.09.02 [11:15] JerseyGuy11: Wow - look at those flames
2005.09.02 [11:15] Wileama: okay I can understand truing down venizaulla for purely political
2005.09.02 [11:15] b0rgy: dc he is still an idiot, doesnt matter ifhe beat kerry or not
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2005.09.02 [11:16] DC-Australia: sky.australia is some other rubbish
2005.09.02 [11:16] b0rgy: jerseyguy yeah i agree
2005.09.02 [11:16] Post: British Columbia's Heavy Urban Search and Rescue (USAR) left for Lafayette, La. Wednesday night after being asked by state officials for assistance. (Link: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1125629846148_165/?hub=TopStories)http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1125629846148_165/?hub=TopStories But the STATE had to ask.
2005.09.02 [11:16] MissM: But, I thought we weren't supposed to politicize this?
2005.09.02 [11:16] DskoSpke: No, but I recall the Venesuelans thought it might make them vulnerable to spies. The US Gov might think terrorists could explit this...
2005.09.02 [11:16] CSMan: JerseyGuy11: is there a link to the video?
2005.09.02 [11:17] Wileama: borgy, dc: potical bickern gets us no were
2005.09.02 [11:18] Wileama: please please stop
2005.09.02 [11:18] Irony_: MissM:  we're not supposed to talk politics
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2005.09.02 [11:18] Irony_: at all
2005.09.02 [11:18] sigtom: haha and cnn cuts him off
2005.09.02 [11:18] snarky|away: (Link: http://blog.wwltv.com/?p=93)http://blog.wwltv.com/?p=93 *sigh*
2005.09.02 [11:18] JerseyGuy11: yeah - it's on the blog (Link: http://old.mises.org:88/NO2)http://old.mises.org:88/NO2
2005.09.02 [11:18] DC-Australia: wileama: eh I'm not the one calling your president an idiot
2005.09.02 [11:19] DskoSpke: MissM, how can anything not be politicised?
2005.09.02 [11:19] MissM: okey dokey :)
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2005.09.02 [11:19] b0rgy: wileama i was not bickering, i just made a statement
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2005.09.02 [11:19] Irony_: try by talking about facts
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2005.09.02 [11:19] Wileama: fine what
2005.09.02 [11:19] CSMan: Post: finally they let them go! those guys were trying to go to south asia for the tsunami but they didn't let them go
2005.09.02 [11:19] Wileama: argue then
2005.09.02 [11:20] b0rgy: dc you arent even in teh us?
2005.09.02 [11:20] Irony_: if you know ppl who are in that area that you've had contact with, then you can mention FACTS
2005.09.02 [11:20] DskoSpke: Ok, that's worth a try Irony_
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2005.09.02 [11:21] MissM: I think we're all here to support the people who's lives have been devastated.
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2005.09.02 [11:21] plowman: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers on CNN
2005.09.02 [11:21] Diorama: Is there a functioning fire service in new orleans?
2005.09.02 [11:22] DC-Australia: borgy: oh sorry, I'm not allowed to speak facts in your presence
2005.09.02 [11:22] Irony_: not the same damn thing we can watch on tv and see for ourself
2005.09.02 [11:22] b0rgy: im not goin to argue im going to use my best friend, the ignore feature
2005.09.02 [11:23] Diorama: Because that could become one hell of a fire otherwise
2005.09.02 [11:23] Wileama: borgy seriously you're egging him on
2005.09.02 [11:23] DC-Australia: borgy: go ahead, champ
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2005.09.02 [11:24] b0rgy: not if he is on ignore
2005.09.02 [11:24] JerseyGuy11: I guess the FD ain't gonna show
2005.09.02 [11:24] b0rgy: he is egging himself on, now enough of that
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2005.09.02 [11:24] b0rgy: diorama i doubt there is anyone to put out any fires right now
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2005.09.02 [11:25] DreamWolf: Any one Know that's located in the burning building in the webcam ?
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2005.09.02 [11:25] sigtom: not sure, even onsite people dont know
2005.09.02 [11:25] notFeanor: if it's the one on the lj it had some oil drums in it
2005.09.02 [11:26] po: Is there an exhuastive list of police/emerg/CB 10-codes, especially in use in the US Gulf?  I'm seeing only partial lists in digging around google.
2005.09.02 [11:26] jas_: I was at a loss for words when it was reported that the president "personally visited" the area by flying over at a lower altitude in his plane to "survey the damage". Disgusting.
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2005.09.02 [11:26] zdivisor: supposedly old accelerants and not chemicals
2005.09.02 [11:26] b0rgy: and yeah i was just thinking that the fires could be a big problem too, not only with flame but anything that it could be burning
2005.09.02 [11:26] sigtom: its near Mothers
2005.09.02 [11:27] r3boot: any news on the restoration of order in NO and / or the ongoing efforts to relieve people?
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2005.09.02 [11:28] Irony_: i am lookin for information of the west bank.  the media has done little to no mentioning of that area
2005.09.02 [11:28] b0rgy: jas i personally am disgusted at the whole thing, our people are out htere suffereing and it is taking days to get relief to them
2005.09.02 [11:28] b0rgy: after all the rapes and murders
2005.09.02 [11:29] Post: West bank seems to be relatively unscathed.
2005.09.02 [11:29] AnimalChin: tell them to stop shooting the helpers.
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2005.09.02 [11:29] r3boot: b0rgy, not to forget inhumanity
2005.09.02 [11:29] vverpoort: question. im from the netherland over here we get the covarage on cnn but it look quite ok all of it. But when i read the internet of blogs and stuff its pritty bad is the media in america also making it look like there is less wrong then there really is ?
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2005.09.02 [11:30] DC-Australia: jas: what part of personally visited was factually incorrect?
2005.09.02 [11:30] jas_: good point just made on CNN too... these are NOT refugees.  They are tax-paying AMERICAN CITIZENS
2005.09.02 [11:30] spectros: damn good point about them NOT being refugees and shouldn't be called that
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2005.09.02 [11:31] spectros: haha
2005.09.02 [11:31] spectros: wathcing that too
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2005.09.02 [11:31] r3boot: vverpoort, also from NL, and coming to approx the same conclusion ;)
2005.09.02 [11:31] spectros: jas_:right on the money
2005.09.02 [11:32] Diorama: They are seeking refuge.
2005.09.02 [11:32] Diorama: look it up
2005.09.02 [11:32] Irony_: they have better areas to work on
2005.09.02 [11:32] DC-Australia: diorama: exactly
2005.09.02 [11:32] pussfeller: i dont know why jesse jackson jr felt it necessary to bitch at the media for mentioning the looters... I was almost supportive of the black causcus for once till they started with that crap
2005.09.02 [11:33] calenth: eh, that seems a little silly to me. I mean, they're refugees from a disaster and Also american citizens
2005.09.02 [11:33] spectros: yes..but they are tax payinc citizens
2005.09.02 [11:34] b0rgy: vver it is awful,, im not there, but reports are showing that doctors cant get into the superdome , there are rapes and murders not to mention looting and beatings, no one can go near the police for frear of getting shot
2005.09.02 [11:34] DC-Australia: if you are seeking refuge, ergo, you are a refugee
2005.09.02 [11:34] zdivisor: brb
2005.09.02 [11:34] DC-Australia: of a sort
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2005.09.02 [11:35] Diorama: Who cares if they pay taxes?
2005.09.02 [11:35] jas_:  A thousand fucking beaurocrats, all running around with their heads cut off. Nobody wants to take responsibility. That's the problem. You've given these people power, and they're too fucking afraid to use it. It's absolutely astonishing.
2005.09.02 [11:36] spectros: ugh
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2005.09.02 [11:36] calenth: "refugee" is not a pejorative
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2005.09.02 [11:36] b0rgy: and new orleans may never be able to be habitated again, so there are millions of people w/o homes, job or anything else
2005.09.02 [11:36] calenth: jas: government in-action
2005.09.02 [11:37] Konpeito: It gets taken as one frequently however.
2005.09.02 [11:37] spectros: Diorama:I pay taxes, I wouldn't want to be called a refugee
2005.09.02 [11:37] Irony_: tax mentioning will make it become a political convo again
2005.09.02 [11:38] jas_: I mean, if you're the president, just how fucking hard would it be to make things happen? Call up Greyhound. I'm the fucking president, and we're commandeering your bus system.
2005.09.02 [11:38] CSMan: they're fsckin afraid to lose their job too
2005.09.02 [11:38] AnimalChin: how do you take responsibility for a hurricane?@?!!?!
2005.09.02 [11:39] Irony_: leave the politics out of it
2005.09.02 [11:39] DC-Australia: calenth: for some people, there's a stigma associated with it
2005.09.02 [11:39] pussfeller: jas_ thats it exactly, and they would shoot anyone who tired to take the power vaccum and fill it
2005.09.02 [11:40] DreamWolf: their Humans and need Help, who cares what 2 call them
2005.09.02 [11:40] jas_: Call up Hertz. I'm the fucking president, and we're commandeering your rental cars. Call up Marriot. I'm the fucking president, and we're commandeering your hotels.
2005.09.02 [11:41] spectros: anyway, just my thought...i agree with that
2005.09.02 [11:41] sahm: theres a tonna refugees here in dallas now
2005.09.02 [11:41] DC-Australia: jas: hotels where?
2005.09.02 [11:41] b0rgy: jas the president isnt in charge, havent you seen all those shows on tv about presidents and people in authority being puppets, well now we know it is true
2005.09.02 [11:41] jas_: ANYWHERE
2005.09.02 [11:42] jas_: Does no one understand the concept of "state of emergency"? You think anyone's going to raise a ruckus because their precious bottom-line might be slightly affected by saving a few thousand people?
2005.09.02 [11:42] MissM: cruise ships too, I'd think
2005.09.02 [11:43] mathx:  
2005.09.02 [11:43] mathx: #INTERDICTOR-SCANNER1 channel needs a transcriber please
2005.09.02 [11:43] Irony_: this isn't supposed to be political
2005.09.02 [11:43] mathx:  
2005.09.02 [11:43] mathx: please msg an op in the channel to help out
2005.09.02 [11:44] Konpeito: Actually, there are hotels in Talahassee that are telling refugees to GTFO before the football game because they have prior bookings.
2005.09.02 [11:44] DC-Australia: haha anywhere
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2005.09.02 [11:44] b0rgy: ok irony so explain to us how we keep this nonpolitical with the government not doing anything
2005.09.02 [11:45] Konpeito: So, yes jas.
2005.09.02 [11:45] DC-Australia: yeah, lets take over the hotels in vegas, san francisco and new york
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2005.09.02 [11:46] DC-Australia: top plan mate
2005.09.02 [11:46] spectros: Irony_:But they will tuen it into that no matter what
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2005.09.02 [11:46] AnimalChin: lmao @ borgy
2005.09.02 [11:46] Irony_: b0rgy:  do you personally know people there ?
2005.09.02 [11:46] DC-Australia: there aren't any hilton's in biloxi, MI
2005.09.02 [11:47] b0rgy: we arent discussing other political issues, we are discussing this isssue and what is not being done for the situation
2005.09.02 [11:47] jas_: Can't hear you above the squawk of my Beltway Bullshit® meter. It's been red-lining every five minutes since Tuesday.
2005.09.02 [11:47] DWPhil: jas_: The government stops a company making money, even for something like this, and someone will take advantage of the situation and try to sue the government.
2005.09.02 [11:48] vverpoort: b0rgy why are the poeple in america taking this shit shouldn't the police be trying to help and get poeple out ?
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2005.09.02 [11:48] StavrosUD: MI=Michigan. :)
2005.09.02 [11:48] Irony_: b0rgy: are you concerned about the evacuation of people you know and love ?
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2005.09.02 [11:49] DC-Australia: MS then
2005.09.02 [11:49] Bklyn: vverpoort: I think they are afraid for their own safety
2005.09.02 [11:50] DC-Australia: you have 48 others
2005.09.02 [11:50] DC-Australia: deal with it
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2005.09.02 [11:50] g0zillaVSshrub: the people of america thought the government had a plan netherlands.....we we're fooled again
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2005.09.02 [11:50] spectros: sue the government:good luck
2005.09.02 [11:50] CSMan: half the NOLA police left bcuz they lost everything
2005.09.02 [11:51] b0rgy: vver they cant do anything, the masses are too large
2005.09.02 [11:51] pussfeller: i think the police were afraid to shoot back or something
2005.09.02 [11:51] Irony_: do ANY of you know people who looking for loved ones/friends ?
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2005.09.02 [11:52] pussfeller: or constrained
2005.09.02 [11:52] sigtom: well i think between that and being shot at during rescue ops would get on anyone
2005.09.02 [11:52] b0rgy: you send in not enough people and with the anger alredy at the police from most of these people they will be torn to shreds
2005.09.02 [11:52] Irony_: or are you just trying to jump on the damn bandwagon ?
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2005.09.02 [11:53] b0rgy: puss might be
2005.09.02 [11:53] spectros: Irony_:My best friends parents live in MS
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2005.09.02 [11:54] Zangetsu: actually, why not use trains to move people to say st. louis?
2005.09.02 [11:54] DC-Australia: these things require runways thousands of feet long
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2005.09.02 [11:54] b0rgy: matt_h it is bad
2005.09.02 [11:54] DWPhil: Hiways are designed to take the weight of cars on them. A 747, even an empty one, will put a *lot* more pressure on the tarmac. The tarmac would gouge and crumble under the weight.
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2005.09.02 [11:55] Oste: DC: Thoes can NOT land on a highway they would crush that highway very quick
2005.09.02 [11:55] Zombie_Work: Blank: the NO Airport is open
2005.09.02 [11:55] SarcasticDwarf: Highways *can* in come circumstances be used to land planes when either the plane is a tiny plane they won't hit the concrete sides or it sits high enough to be above the concrete sides a nd there are no signs, lights, etc to rip the wings off.
2005.09.02 [11:56] Xugumad: stormtrooper: I don't mean, they don't know it's messed up in there,I mean they don't know where the problems are. There are numerous groups failing to talk to each other, the national guard is twitchy because they're being shot at, it's just a mes...
2005.09.02 [11:56] adownie: because the trains are trashed
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2005.09.02 [11:57] Oste: you need to look at a runway's concreat sometime
2005.09.02 [11:57] [BWC]_AtG: even if you can land it, you cannot take off
2005.09.02 [11:57] DC-Australia: oste: mate I'm the one saying they can
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2005.09.02 [11:58] DC-Australia: can'
2005.09.02 [11:58] lumpyface: dirtfarmer: i completely agree... we should ALREADY have 50k plus peopl ein there
2005.09.02 [11:58] DC-Australia: bah
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2005.09.02 [11:58] DC-Australia: can't
2005.09.02 [11:58] stormtrooper: Xugumad: yea I understand tho :)
2005.09.02 [11:58] Konpeito: Modern runways are heavily reinforced, yes.
2005.09.02 [11:58] Blank: they can use those planes that act as bi-planes but also can hover like helicopters, where are those?
2005.09.02 [11:58] Kernal: what channel is the new orleans scanner on?
2005.09.02 [11:59] Konpeito: Ospreys?
2005.09.02 [11:59] b0rgy: i wonder how that other room #norescue is getting along
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2005.09.02 [11:59] Cheebo: i'm interested in seeing Nagin's meeting with Bush
2005.09.02 [11:59] Konpeito: Those are experimental at best.
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2005.09.02 [11:59] DC-Australia: there's a couple of engineering geniuses here wondering why they can't drop a 747 onto the superdome
2005.09.02 [11:59] NSK: #interdictor-scanner
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2005.09.02 [12:00] Padathir: Even if a highway CAN support your plane, you have no ATC, no instruments, no one to refuel you before you take off again
2005.09.02 [12:00] jas__: irritating.
2005.09.02 [12:00] priz: ospreys are in full use
2005.09.02 [12:00] Cheebo: he needs to tear into Bush but I bet he'll just kiss ass
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2005.09.02 [12:01] m^rk: how hard is it to drop food from choppers
2005.09.02 [12:01] Konpeito: Are they?
2005.09.02 [12:01] Padathir: it's certainly possible but hardly optimal
2005.09.02 [12:01] Xugumad: stormtrooper: certainly, I'm picking up a bunch more bottled water later...
2005.09.02 [12:01] priz: yup
2005.09.02 [12:01] Oste: Padathir: That isn't the problem, the main problem is the weight
2005.09.02 [12:01] Konpeito: I thought there was a huge snit about how their rotors tended to lock up and crash?
2005.09.02 [12:02] hugh4life: why?  nagins more of a fool than bush
2005.09.02 [12:02] DC-Australia: priz: ospreys != 747-sized
2005.09.02 [12:02] Xugumad: stormtrooper: (just in case, I mean)
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2005.09.02 [12:02] b0rgy: padathir im sorry it doesnt take a whole load of fuel to go 30minutes away on a 747
2005.09.02 [12:03] DC-Australia: not much better than a chinook in terms of capacity
2005.09.02 [12:03] Oste: i have landed a a 777 on a non ifr stip before in a small town in oklahoma
2005.09.02 [12:03] jas__: (Link: http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp)http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp
2005.09.02 [12:04] BigTwist: how do you turn off all the join/leave msgs?
2005.09.02 [12:04] Diorama: or people shooting the choppers
2005.09.02 [12:04] GreasyBoy: We should use zeppelins and hot air balloons and UFOs!
2005.09.02 [12:04] Kernal: oste: thats impressive
2005.09.02 [12:04] Kernal: without instrumentation
2005.09.02 [12:04] b0rgy: lol greasyboy, this room needds some humor
2005.09.02 [12:04] N`Grath: i seem to recall that Antonov 124 doesn't even require a paved airfield?
2005.09.02 [12:05] Padathir: I have to disagree, I think we've seen plenty of evidence that lack of comms is a big problem here
2005.09.02 [12:05] [BWC]_AtG: How long was the strip?
2005.09.02 [12:05] Jzor: Oste, what town?
2005.09.02 [12:06] Jorge23: Imagine a Blackhawk or a chopper trying to evacuate ppl. Have you seen rescate from la, kurt russell?' imagine a crowd surrounding the chopper, pray for the chopper crew to stay alive after that
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2005.09.02 [12:06] Padathir: What are people going to do to know you've landed?
2005.09.02 [12:06] Diorama: Chinooks
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2005.09.02 [12:06] Zangetsu: If only they had a Soylent Green Factory in NO.
2005.09.02 [12:06] Oste: kernal: yes, more than once
2005.09.02 [12:07] Xugumad: m'rk: it's easy. getting it to land near people, in one piece, and not in the water, is a little trickier. Also keep in mind that when trying to feed 10,000+, the cargo space on a helicopter is practically insignificant
2005.09.02 [12:07] tolkachi_afk: ***new radio information** NOFD @ (Link: http://www.firefeeds.com/feedroom/la-neworleans.html)http://www.firefeeds.com/feedroom/la-neworleans.html
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2005.09.02 [12:08] b0rgy: my opinon is like an asshole , everyone has one
2005.09.02 [12:08] Kernal: as a small plane pilot i respect that
2005.09.02 [12:09] Oste: jzor: it was in n.e. oklahoma
2005.09.02 [12:09] Jzor: i am from oklahoma :)
2005.09.02 [12:09] Blank: there are two airfields in N.O. and one is underwater
2005.09.02 [12:09] DC-Australia: jorge: or not getting herded to the back and getting chopped up at the back
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2005.09.02 [12:10] Oste: Grove area if you know the area
2005.09.02 [12:10] [BWC]_AtG: Oste: can I ask why?
2005.09.02 [12:10] Jzor: yep
2005.09.02 [12:10] mrunix: i have a friend in grove
2005.09.02 [12:10] Diorama: Fly c130's over and slide parachuted food off the backs
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2005.09.02 [12:11] Padathir: Jorge23, been thinking of that. Wasn't their similar situations during the final evacuation of the USA from vietnam?
2005.09.02 [12:12] DC-Australia: blank: and the other doesn't have power, water etc etc, right?
2005.09.02 [12:12] Edgan: Oste: Why were you landing a 777 there?
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2005.09.02 [12:12] DWPhil: FYI, an Osprey can carry 24 passengers
2005.09.02 [12:12] royb: my opinion is like an asshole too. except everyone asshole except mine stinks.
2005.09.02 [12:13] royb: ..
2005.09.02 [12:13] royb: jk. :p
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2005.09.02 [12:13] Oste: Because I was working with the 777 program
2005.09.02 [12:13] Jorge23: and look how it ended
2005.09.02 [12:14] Blank: Sep 01 10:49PM CDT: (AP): Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco "declared war" on looters as 300 National Guard troops landed in New Orleans fresh from duty in Iraq. "These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will," she said.
2005.09.02 [12:14] Diorama: Are there any british military ships nearby?
2005.09.02 [12:14] Cheebo: did anyone find bush's 'briefing' a bit of a show?  staged.. photo-op, insincere
2005.09.02 [12:14] Padathir: natives jumping on the aircraft hoping to get out before the north got there?
2005.09.02 [12:15] Konpeito: Probably not any that are closer than US ships.
2005.09.02 [12:15] Padathir: Cheebo is looks like everyone did
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2005.09.02 [12:15] Cheebo: like "Hey look, we're getting things done!"
2005.09.02 [12:16] Konpeito: Cheebo: yes
2005.09.02 [12:16] b0rgy: lol royb
2005.09.02 [12:16] Padathir: is/it
2005.09.02 [12:16] DC-Australia: dwphil: that'd be less than the capacity of a chinook esp when the people aren't in patrol order
2005.09.02 [12:16] Padathir: Everyone did, even the media
2005.09.02 [12:16] Jorge23: total mess, anarchy ruling, this is nearly unstoppable in terms of disaster
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2005.09.02 [12:17] DWPhil: DC-Australia, yup
2005.09.02 [12:17] raghtal: Cheebo: "Git Er Dunn!" - BW Bush
2005.09.02 [12:17] b0rgy: how many people in here have friends family or are in new orleans
2005.09.02 [12:17] [BWC]_AtG: Diorama, yep, we need a couple of 18in shells in NO to finish it off
2005.09.02 [12:18] adownie: also please consider that the National Guard has a very tough job to do.  Operations in an urban environment are hard enough, a flooded urban environment is way tougher, a flooded urban environment with tens of thousands of pissed off people is almost impossible
2005.09.02 [12:19] raghtal: s/BW/GW
2005.09.02 [12:19] Cheebo: LOL
2005.09.02 [12:19] Padathir: But those kinds of things are AWALYS A SHOW so I don't see why that's so interesting
2005.09.02 [12:19] Oste: i have 350 hours in the 001 aircraft
2005.09.02 [12:19] pussfeller: what we have here is a failure to communicate
2005.09.02 [12:20] shinraiden: how do I ignore connect/disconnect's ?
2005.09.02 [12:20] stormtrooper: Wasn't that sone of a bitch Dubya in the national guard...
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2005.09.02 [12:20] Padathir: pussfeller: I agree.
2005.09.02 [12:20] hugh4life: stfu storm
2005.09.02 [12:20] Edgan: stormtrooper: yes
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2005.09.02 [12:21] Jorge23: [adownie] thats it, you explained it perfect
2005.09.02 [12:21] b0rgy: shinraiden i dont know
2005.09.02 [12:21] Diorama: I have 40 minutes in a Cessena 152
2005.09.02 [12:21] * Sefriel cracks neck
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2005.09.02 [12:22] Cheebo: "We're makin' progress.. we're here to help the people".. sounds like he's talking about IRaq
2005.09.02 [12:22] Post: lots of firetrucks just went past on the feed.
2005.09.02 [12:22] DC-Australia: adownie: heh and the call from failed leaders like nagin basically come back to 'send the troops'
2005.09.02 [12:23] Diorama: Really?
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2005.09.02 [12:23] stormtrooper: Edgan: man they're fucked :D
2005.09.02 [12:23] pussfeller: air national guaurd, some controversy over how much time he was actually there
2005.09.02 [12:23] strangely: these are the "last throes" of the flood
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2005.09.02 [12:24] Cheebo: Just take one of his 'terrorist' speeches and replace 'terrorist' with 'Katrina"
2005.09.02 [12:24] raghtal: Cheebo: yeah, same soundbites
2005.09.02 [12:24] [BWC]_AtG: didnt see any
2005.09.02 [12:24] strangely: we've turned a corner
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2005.09.02 [12:24] Oste: Joz: where are you in ok?
2005.09.02 [12:24] [BWC]_AtG: Oh there they are
2005.09.02 [12:24] b0rgy: cheebo you think he writes his own speaches or even thinks for himself
2005.09.02 [12:24] Edgan: Cheebo: hahaha
2005.09.02 [12:24] b0rgy: our president is a midless twerp
2005.09.02 [12:24] * raghtal can't wait to see what The Daily Show is gonna do with today's tv footage
2005.09.02 [12:25] jas__: he has a Speechalist.
2005.09.02 [12:25] [BWC]_AtG: Strangely enough the firetrucks are going away from the fire.
2005.09.02 [12:25] b0rgy: lol cheebo
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2005.09.02 [12:25] Diorama: 7 Fire trucks!!!
2005.09.02 [12:25] b0rgy: lol bwc_atg
2005.09.02 [12:25] raghtal: Is it true that Bush tried to classify Katrina as a WMD? ;-)
2005.09.02 [12:25] Diorama: Youre goin the wrong way!!!
2005.09.02 [12:25] Grider: goddamn it looks like Mogudush
2005.09.02 [12:25] snarky|away: heh, I hope they use Wolf Blitzer's line from yesterday... "With people so poor and so black."
2005.09.02 [12:26] raghtal: Weather of Mass Destruction
2005.09.02 [12:26] BigTwist: OMG
2005.09.02 [12:26] Konpeito: ...
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2005.09.02 [12:27] MichaelMyers: :o
2005.09.02 [12:27] Konpeito: He said that?
2005.09.02 [12:27] BigTwist: did he really say that?
2005.09.02 [12:27] MichaelMyers: omg.. huauhauha
2005.09.02 [12:27] raghtal: no, just kidding
2005.09.02 [12:27] [BWC]_AtG: lol
2005.09.02 [12:27] mcsmurf: :D
2005.09.02 [12:27] BigTwist: ha
2005.09.02 [12:27] Diorama: heh
2005.09.02 [12:27] snarky|away: Yeah, it was a stumble, I'm sure, but God, I died.
2005.09.02 [12:28] Stupedo: Has everyone heard the interview with the mayor?
2005.09.02 [12:28] Konpeito: Oh man.
2005.09.02 [12:28] Padathir: raghtal, I think he might, since someone claimed to have spotted a terrorist in the eye of the storm flying it.
2005.09.02 [12:29] isleshocky77: I think the fire on the webcam was just covered on MSNBC, I recognized the street name from the blogs.  They said the firetrucks have no water pressure.
2005.09.02 [12:29] sh4n3: yeah..my friend was watching when he said it.
2005.09.02 [12:29] strangely: that interview is heartbreaking
2005.09.02 [12:29] raghtal: LOL
2005.09.02 [12:29] isleshocky77: And it spread to a second building.
2005.09.02 [12:30] Konpeito: Live footage of the fire onCNN
2005.09.02 [12:30] sh4n3: called me up laughing.
2005.09.02 [12:30] sigtom: hell the weather guy and reporter got into on the night before the cane hit
2005.09.02 [12:31] GreasyBoy: I have a screen shot of Blitzer saying that with the CC on.
2005.09.02 [12:31] Konpeito: haha
2005.09.02 [12:32] Blank: State Police in Lafayette, Louisiana, have been accussed of hindering attempts by private citizens to rescue people trapped by floodwaters in New Orleans. The accusations were contained in an unconfirmed report received via email by Jason Robideaux, an attorney from Lafayette.
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2005.09.02 [12:32] raghtal: I think bush is convinced that the storm was some how related to butterfly wings in Iraq
2005.09.02 [12:32] Stupedo: That interview makes me want to vomit.. how long until the smear compaign against the mayor starts?
2005.09.02 [12:33] jas__: I wonder why CNN International is just piping CNN America...
2005.09.02 [12:33] jas__: isn't
2005.09.02 [12:33] jas__: gaaaah
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2005.09.02 [12:34] mcsmurf: "Fatal error: Call to a member function tableName() on a non-object in /var/www/stfunoob.com/nola/wiki/includes/ObjectCache.php on line 409"
2005.09.02 [12:34] mcsmurf: wiki broken?
2005.09.02 [12:34] snarky|away: The freepers are already slamming the NO mayor.
2005.09.02 [12:34] stormtrooper: Blank: I wonder if that has anything to do with them being mostly african american and democrats
2005.09.02 [12:35] DC-Australia: raghtal: do you ever stop?
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2005.09.02 [12:35] Diorama: I bet Bin laden sends out a video on al Jazeera claiming full responsibility. "Katrina is my bitch, y'all"
2005.09.02 [12:36] _Locu: lol
2005.09.02 [12:36] b0rgy: omg i am so glad to have that blog up and the updates
2005.09.02 [12:36] Ben-377T: is wiki.nola-intel.com loading up for anyone else right now?
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2005.09.02 [12:37] b0rgy: lol diroama
2005.09.02 [12:37] Konpeito: I'm just waiting for Pat Robertson to blame gay people.
2005.09.02 [12:37] mcsmurf: Ben-377T: no seems broken
2005.09.02 [12:37] Houston: Diorama: A guy in Kuwait already did that.  I'll find the link
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2005.09.02 [12:38] mRNA: no ben
2005.09.02 [12:38] N`Grath: "we're behind the global warming. soon all the world will be like arabia" ?
2005.09.02 [12:38] GreasyBoy: You mean he hasn't already?
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2005.09.02 [12:38] Ben-377T: k - just making sure it's not just my end
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2005.09.02 [12:38] mRNA: i just lost it and ive had it like 12 hours
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2005.09.02 [12:39] Xugumad: can't keep up with the channel, seeya later
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2005.09.02 [12:39] b0rgy: <--- is making frozen pizza for breakfast, or as my kids say tizza
2005.09.02 [12:40] Padathir: tizza works
2005.09.02 [12:40] Alan_Hicks: Hey, who do I need to speak to about adding a link explaining radio 10 codes to the topic for the scanner channels?
2005.09.02 [12:40] GreasyBoy: I just popped a Totinos in myself
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2005.09.02 [12:40] Kha0S: ben/mrna: the wiki is down right now
2005.09.02 [12:41] DC-Australia: take em to a non-public school and they might be able to pronounce it correctly
2005.09.02 [12:42] Dirtfarmer: anyone getting this error on the scanner website Fatal error: Call to a member function tableName() on a non-object in /var/www/stfunoob.com/nola/wiki/includes/ObjectCache.php on line 409
2005.09.02 [12:42] royb: i just finished a totinos.
2005.09.02 [12:42] royb: haha
2005.09.02 [12:42] Padathir: dirtfarmer, wiki down
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2005.09.02 [12:43] mRNA: thanks Kha0S
2005.09.02 [12:43] Diorama: Tom Cruise is: "THE INTERDICTOR!"  Starring Cameron diaz as crystal, and Beethoven the dog as BushŠ
2005.09.02 [12:43] Ben-377T: alan -there's probably a contact link for something like that on wiki.nola-intel.com...whenever it comes back up
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2005.09.02 [12:44] Dirtfarmer: ok thanks Padathir
2005.09.02 [12:44] Kha0S: meh, I can't get the video stream to stay running for more than a few frames
2005.09.02 [12:44] Padathir: <mathx> YES THE WIKI IS DOWN, WORKING ON IT.
2005.09.02 [12:44] BlackLotus: I have a small question.  How many people do you all think got out okay?  What percentage - left behind.
2005.09.02 [12:44] Alan_Hicks: Ben-377T: Thanks.
2005.09.02 [12:45] Diorama: what is your connection speed
2005.09.02 [12:45] Houston: Diorama: here is the link (Link: http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/front2453615.183333333.html)http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/front2453615.183333333.html   "Kuwaiti: 'The terrorist Katrina' is a soldier of Allah' "
2005.09.02 [12:46] maswan: nola-intel.org is being very slow, I have huge ammounts of bandwidth (~2 Gbit/s), would a pic mirror be of help?
2005.09.02 [12:46] Jorge23: can a city that is so flooded catch in fire ???? cuase they report fire service to be totally disabled
2005.09.02 [12:46] Kha0S: Diorama: >1Mbit
2005.09.02 [12:47] DC-Australia: blacklotus: how long is a piece of string?
2005.09.02 [12:48] [BWC]_AtG: i'd say about 95% got out
2005.09.02 [12:48] BlackLotus: and if that doesn't sound right, my apologies.  My head's a little heavy with all of this.
2005.09.02 [12:48] raghtal: BlackLotus: by the looks of the footage, those with a good car got out ok
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2005.09.02 [12:48] Padathir: BlackLotus, the news media was saying 80% did, but I think it might be higher
2005.09.02 [12:48] Oste: hey houston, nice to see you, i am in houston as well LOL
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2005.09.02 [12:49] Blank: I can't get the webcam up
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2005.09.02 [12:49] BlackLotus: That actually got out?
2005.09.02 [12:49] raghtal: those who rely on public transit were left behind
2005.09.02 [12:50] Ben-377T: <- in houston as well
2005.09.02 [12:50] mcsmurf: hey i don't have any url at all
2005.09.02 [12:50] Diorama: I have 2Mbit, and my feed is bad
2005.09.02 [12:50] GreasyBoy: All my streams have been consistant. Of course I live in the sticks were most still communicate with laterns and/or smoke.
2005.09.02 [12:50] Padathir: That left before the flooding got bad
2005.09.02 [12:50] Scoria: I'm in Houston, too.
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2005.09.02 [12:51] Scoria: Where in Houston are you all?
2005.09.02 [12:51] Houston: <-- is also in houtson (hehe)
2005.09.02 [12:51] mRNA: doncha think the servers are maybe gettin hammered???
2005.09.02 [12:51] Kha0S: <- in New Hampshire
2005.09.02 [12:51] jas__: (Link: http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/050901/benson.gif)http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/050901/benson.gif
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2005.09.02 [12:51] Scoria: Houston: Hahaha.
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2005.09.02 [12:52] CrtxReavr: Is anyone under orders to start shooting the armed thugs yet?
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2005.09.02 [12:52] Houston: Zip: 77459
2005.09.02 [12:52] Padathir: Since then, I don't know, even the "reliable" outlets are tossing numbers all over. Anyone know relatively sure how many people actually made it to TX so far?
2005.09.02 [12:53] DC-Australia:  Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco "declared war" on looters as 300 National Guard troops landed in New Orleans fresh from duty in Iraq.
2005.09.02 [12:53] AtG2: and a few thousand troublemakers drove into the city in search for a thrill
2005.09.02 [12:53] Scoria: CrtxReavr: The order was "shoot to kill," as I recall.
2005.09.02 [12:54] DC-Australia: "These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will," she said.
2005.09.02 [12:55] jas__: (Link: http://www.cagle.com/working/050901/bok.gif)http://www.cagle.com/working/050901/bok.gif
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2005.09.02 [12:55] mcsmurf: heh they said only 40% of the police man actually come to work, the rest isn't able to or has fear getting shot themselves...
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2005.09.02 [12:55] Blank: State Police in Lafayette, Louisiana, have been accussed of hindering attempts by private citizens to rescue people trapped by floodwaters in New Orleans. The accusations were contained in an unconfirmed report received via email by Jason Robideaux, an attorney from Lafayette.
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2005.09.02 [12:56] GreasyBoy: I've always been under the impression that martial law implied "shoot to kill"
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2005.09.02 [12:56] nom_: ;
2005.09.02 [12:56] Blank: The email was written by a person who claimed to be part of "a group of approximately 1,000 citizens pulling 500 boats" heading into New Orleans to rescue people still stranded in places such as hospitals. The email claimed that the members of the flotilla were ".. experienced boaters, licensed fishermen and hunters, people who have spent their entire adult life and teenage years on the waterways of Louisiana."
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2005.09.02 [12:57] CrtxReavr: That doesn't mean anything - governor's making assumptions.
2005.09.02 [12:57] Dopefish`: (Link: http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/2595/zangeif0rk.gif)http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/2595/zangeif0rk.gif
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2005.09.02 [12:57] Dopefish`: zangeif is responsible
2005.09.02 [12:57] nom_: ;
2005.09.02 [12:57] MichaelMyers: =/
2005.09.02 [12:57] Houston: Dopfish' : hahaha
2005.09.02 [12:57] Sefriel: where's that from blank?
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2005.09.02 [12:57] Blank:  The email reports that a Dept. of Wildlife & Fisheries (DWF) agent ordered them to turn around and go home.
2005.09.02 [12:58] Padathir: Blank, they could have been concerned that no matter how experienced, more people could easily mean more people to rescue.
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2005.09.02 [12:58] DC-Australia: dopefish: some people need to seek paid employment; they have too much time on their hands
2005.09.02 [12:59] b0rgy: totinos rocks
2005.09.02 [12:59] snarky|away: God, there's a rooftop they just showed on CNN with tens of people on top of it, still.
2005.09.02 [13:00] stormtrooper: So what is your opinion on the looters, are they just opportunistic or tryin' to get by. Personally, if you ask me, robbing the wallmart is the least someone can do in such a situation. Hell, I'd burn a couple of mcdonalds' out of spite..
2005.09.02 [13:00] Blank: (Link: http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/3952.php)http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/3952.php
2005.09.02 [13:00] Dopefish`: lol i just found it in some forums though
2005.09.02 [13:00] b0rgy: headline news or cnn
2005.09.02 [13:00] snarky|away: CNN
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2005.09.02 [13:01] Blank: "We then specifically asked the DWF agent that we (and other citizens in the flotillia) be allowed to go to the hospitals and help evacuate the sick and the doctors and nurses stranded there. We offered to bring these people back to Lafayette, in our own vehicles, in order to ensure that they received proper and prompt medical care," the email said.
2005.09.02 [13:01] snarky|away: Showing the smoke now, though.
2005.09.02 [13:01] GreasyBoy: I live just outside Dallas and it appears people are arriving at Reunion Areana. Any word on a possible Dallas feed?
2005.09.02 [13:01] Konpeito: Jesus.
2005.09.02 [13:02] Blank: "The DWF agent did not want to hear this and ordered us home. We complied with the DWF agent's orders, turned around and headed back to Lafayette along with half of the flotillia. However, two of my friends were pulling my other boat, a smaller 15ft alumaweld with a 25 hp. The DWF agents let them through to proceed to the rescue operation launch site," the email continued.
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2005.09.02 [13:03] Dopefish`: I saw some footage on the news about some lady with diabetes
2005.09.02 [13:03] mcsmurf: someone has the URL to the stream handy?
2005.09.02 [13:03] Blank:  The email also reported hundreds of DWF agents who were not being utilised.
2005.09.02 [13:04] Dopefish`: she ran out of insulin
2005.09.02 [13:04] CrtxReavr: The_Tick, do you know if anyone's been given orders to start shooting these armed thugs?
2005.09.02 [13:04] mcsmurf: (wiki down)
2005.09.02 [13:05] b0rgy: storm the way i look at let them loot, they need food water clothes medicine protection and money to restart
2005.09.02 [13:05] Padathir: Now that's strange. To let some through but not all.
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2005.09.02 [13:05] Oste: some friends just arrived at our house and is going to stay here for a while
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2005.09.02 [13:06] Blank: "My two friends were allowed to drive to the launch site where the La. Dept. of Wildlife and Fisheries were launching their rescue operations (via boat). They reported to me that there were over 200 DWF agents just standing around and doing nothing. My friends were kept there for approximately 3 hours. During that time they observed a large number of DWF agents doing nothing. After three hours had passed they were told that they were not ne
2005.09.02 [13:06] Oste: they are talking about never returning to NOLA
2005.09.02 [13:07] Dopefish`: the news said the national guard can 'shoot to kill'
2005.09.02 [13:07] The_Tick: CrtxReavr: from what i heard on democracy now this morning, the army is
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2005.09.02 [13:08] Kha0S: ev1 LSP/scanner 2 is back
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2005.09.02 [13:08] silver_whisper: yes, good chills! lol
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2005.09.02 [13:08] Cellulaer: they've been saying the national guard arrived since wednesday
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2005.09.02 [13:09] hugh4life: I'm glade they're there
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2005.09.02 [13:09] flipmcf: Heard news - last night.  Fats Domino found alive and well.
2005.09.02 [13:09] hugh4life: are you some anti-milary person
2005.09.02 [13:10] wankle: yeah, they've been there a while
2005.09.02 [13:10] Elerium: WOOO FATS IS ALIVE!!!!
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2005.09.02 [13:10] kaiser: national guard feed is accepting connections
2005.09.02 [13:10] Brutulf: Who cares about Fats...
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2005.09.02 [13:11] silver_whisper: anti-military? what?
2005.09.02 [13:11] wankle: hugh: don't be a jackass
2005.09.02 [13:11] Argrilio: I am wary of military, but far more wary of Mass looting and rapes
2005.09.02 [13:12] kaiser: FATS ARE PEOPLE TOO
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2005.09.02 [13:12] pussfeller: yeah, tis the best thing in this situation, and I say this as a rabid govt hater
2005.09.02 [13:12] Kha0S: flipmcf: not just found, but rescued
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2005.09.02 [13:12] wankle: just because someone didn't get chills doesn't mean they're "anti-millitary"
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2005.09.02 [13:13] NikkiLee: many of us do, its a name and personage we know
2005.09.02 [13:13] flipmcf: Kha0S, ty... good to know
2005.09.02 [13:13] Babylonian: I'm worried the military is going to go Fallujah on the starving people
2005.09.02 [13:14] Marcee: Bwoh: what scanner is that?
2005.09.02 [13:15] MikeChance: is "castle base" astrodome command?
2005.09.02 [13:15] voodoo_in_tx: oh man, nagin is furious
2005.09.02 [13:15] Kha0S: flipmcf: he was extricated by helicopter.
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2005.09.02 [13:15] wankle: Nagin is the man
2005.09.02 [13:15] Brutulf: Which stream is #inderdictor-scanner transcribing from?
2005.09.02 [13:16] hugh4life: oh shut up.  to have chills about that national guard is pretty sad
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2005.09.02 [13:16] Brutulf: There are so many...:S
2005.09.02 [13:16] bwohlgemuth: no idea, lited as "Louisiana Scanner"
2005.09.02 [13:17] cekc: is the dome scanner stuck in a loop?
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2005.09.02 [13:17] Fauxpaws: anyone got a link to a place where I can see what the radio codes mean that are being transcribed?
2005.09.02 [13:17] voodoo_in_tx: bush has arrived
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2005.09.02 [13:18] Fauxpaws: the wiki they linked to for that is down
2005.09.02 [13:18] voodoo_in_tx: at convention center
2005.09.02 [13:18] laffomatic: hahah, the governor just snapped on the radio/cnn
2005.09.02 [13:18] Elerium: national guard isn't federal goverment in this situation
2005.09.02 [13:19] p25: Babylonian: Get a clue, the starving people needing help are mostly gone, people still in the area who are alive are criminals, everyone else is dead in their houses.
2005.09.02 [13:20] Babylonian: Why does Fats Domino get evac'd by copter but everyone else has to suffer
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2005.09.02 [13:20] Xuk: scanner urls?
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2005.09.02 [13:20] silver_whisper: what's your problem, hugh? pardon me for being happy that help is actually arriving en masse.
2005.09.02 [13:21] enwilson: Laffomatic; that clip seems to be making the rounds
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2005.09.02 [13:21] Babylonian: p25:  mostly gone ?  yeah right
2005.09.02 [13:22] Brutulf: "ten-four" = roger/copy
2005.09.02 [13:22] Pak: wow, this chat is moving too fast to read
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2005.09.02 [13:22] wankle: the governor is losing it, she needs to get some sleep
2005.09.02 [13:23] laffomatic: damnit, and I thought it was new and original
2005.09.02 [13:23] Brutulf: Learned that from Battlefield 2! ;)
2005.09.02 [13:23] laffomatic: :(
2005.09.02 [13:23] boyakasha: it's not moving too fast :p
2005.09.02 [13:23] The_Tick: wankle: she won't sleep until it's done
2005.09.02 [13:23] The_Tick: or passes out
2005.09.02 [13:23] Elerium: this is actually kinda slow... g
2005.09.02 [13:23] sigtom: Fats is a national treasure
2005.09.02 [13:23] flipmcf: what is status on NO/MS/LA net infrastructure?  totally down?  spotty? suprisingly good?
2005.09.02 [13:24] Kha0S: can a looter just go shoot jesse jackson
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2005.09.02 [13:25] Kha0S: PLEASE?
2005.09.02 [13:25] wankle: she needs a drink
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2005.09.02 [13:25] sigtom: come on he gets special treatment
2005.09.02 [13:25] voodoo_in_tx: Babylonian he may have gotten evac'd with others in bad physical shape - remember he's diabetic
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2005.09.02 [13:26] Babylonian: p25:  so you're one of the people who wants to just kill anyone who's left alive ?
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2005.09.02 [13:26] Pak: jesse jackson?
2005.09.02 [13:26] cekc: flipmcf: still sorta  up, but with limited bandwidth
2005.09.02 [13:27] sigtom: no Fats
2005.09.02 [13:27] Elerium: f jesse jackson
2005.09.02 [13:27] mRNA: fats domino is the ONLY person who has been rescued by helicopter??? not on my tv...but i guess i cant believe the footage i see cuz its a "story"
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2005.09.02 [13:28] marlboro: what is interdictor
2005.09.02 [13:28] voodoo_in_tx: no, he's not
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2005.09.02 [13:28] p25: Babylonian: No, But if you're brandishaing a weapon and threatening supplies and people trying to help people, yes.
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2005.09.02 [13:29] cekc: marlboro: interdictor is the guy at ground zero
2005.09.02 [13:29] Marcee: KhaOS - please!?
2005.09.02 [13:29] StickMan: they found fats domino?
2005.09.02 [13:30] StickMan: sweet
2005.09.02 [13:30] sigtom: hes the blogger
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2005.09.02 [13:30] Pak: (Link: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/)http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
2005.09.02 [13:30] voodoo_in_tx: they've airlifted several of the people in bad shape
2005.09.02 [13:30] Pak: That's interdictor
2005.09.02 [13:30] bwohlgemuth: jesse jackson needs to be airlifted into the area....then dropped by helicopter into the superdome...oops...no parachute
2005.09.02 [13:31] Argrilio: interdictor is a medium class star destroyer used to block hyperspace lanes
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2005.09.02 [13:32] wankle: haha nice
2005.09.02 [13:32] Padathir: o rly
2005.09.02 [13:32] Babylonian: Why all the hate for Jesse Jackson?
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2005.09.02 [13:33] marlboro: the guy at ground zero?
2005.09.02 [13:33] tamas: I've been reading a lot about New Orleans and the response, or lack thereof, and I think I can finally sum it all up: The price of (non-partisan) political apathy.
2005.09.02 [13:33] Pak: who is jesse jackson?
2005.09.02 [13:34] cekc: Babylonian: cuz he kills babies
2005.09.02 [13:34] hugh4life: babylonian: are you the type of person that want's rapes going around rapent?  if we have to kill a few people caught in the act then so be it
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2005.09.02 [13:34] silver_whisper: why all the hate in general?
2005.09.02 [13:34] djp_: ~/j #edmonton
2005.09.02 [13:35] Babylonian: cekc:  ??
2005.09.02 [13:35] NikkiLee: Jackson is an ass
2005.09.02 [13:36] [BWC]AntiG: jesse jackson != jesse james
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2005.09.02 [13:36] marlboro: humans are hateful
2005.09.02 [13:36] sigtom: hes the guy at the directnics offices
2005.09.02 [13:36] Elerium: jesse jackson hates puppies... and jesus
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2005.09.02 [13:37] Pak: marlboro, he is in a building in NO
2005.09.02 [13:37] sigtom: well one of the guys
2005.09.02 [13:37] The_Tick: hugh4life, Babylonian and p25 stop this flame now or i ban you all
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2005.09.02 [13:38] p25: Babylonain: He's an annoying ballsack, that's why.
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2005.09.02 [13:38] CrtxReavr: JJ opens his mouth with no clue about the actual situation. . . .just grandstanding for political reasons. . . no at all helpful.
2005.09.02 [13:38] cekc: jesse jackson made santa cry
2005.09.02 [13:38] Pak: he's blogging the whole situation
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2005.09.02 [13:39] Kirlian: Is the SCANNER still UP? I just got some morse code fragments??
2005.09.02 [13:39] {dm}: Any word on an alt A-Dome link?
2005.09.02 [13:40] wankle: jesse jackson should build a chopper... wait, that's not the guy?
2005.09.02 [13:40] Klowner: jesse jackson went to visit hugo chavez last week, didn't he?
2005.09.02 [13:41] marlboro: oh, i see
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2005.09.02 [13:41] flipmcf: to diserve help is one thing.  to DEMAND help is another.
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2005.09.02 [13:41] pussfeller: the onlypeople who listen to jesse jackson anymore are consevatives trying to get their irish up
2005.09.02 [13:41] Babylonian: Klowner:  yes
2005.09.02 [13:41] cekc: Kirlian: what stream are you on?
2005.09.02 [13:41] sekhmet: My mises.org webcam feed seems rather choppy...  Is it like that for everyone or is it just my client?
2005.09.02 [13:41] burningsquid: is there a live stream?
2005.09.02 [13:41] Marcee: Yeah Klowner - to ask for lower gas prices in black neighborhoods.
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2005.09.02 [13:42] sigtom: like that for everone
2005.09.02 [13:42] cyberkni: conservatives donnt listen to him even
2005.09.02 [13:42] Padathir: mises.org is blank for me
2005.09.02 [13:42] Babylonian: Chavez offered to send aid to New Orleans
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2005.09.02 [13:42] wankle: puss: sorta like Ann Coulter :)
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2005.09.02 [13:43] Pak: I can't even connect to any of the streams.
2005.09.02 [13:43] calenth: hahahah, i laughed out loud at 'get their irish up"
2005.09.02 [13:43] cyberkni: he is a cause to himself
2005.09.02 [13:43] enwilson: sekhmet: heavy rebuffering over here...
2005.09.02 [13:43] yume_no_hikari: sekhmet: that's everyone, I think.  Anyone know a lower-traffic mirror?
2005.09.02 [13:44] pussfeller: exactly
2005.09.02 [13:44] Klowner: Marcee: heheh, and wear a pretty sash, and apologizee for pat robertson
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2005.09.02 [13:45] enwilson: but of course, the world's watching by now
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2005.09.02 [13:45] Zombie_Work: I had a small sliver of hope that Jesse Jackson would ask the people of new orleans to remain calm, but that sliver was dashed, when he started blaming people
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2005.09.02 [13:45] Padathir: i'd settle for buffering
2005.09.02 [13:46] Padathir: a frame a second would be more than I can see
2005.09.02 [13:46] DeadlyEwok: jackson is a whore
2005.09.02 [13:46] Flaim: Zombie: did you expect any less?
2005.09.02 [13:47] Pak: I'd settle for a blank picture
2005.09.02 [13:47] [BWC]AntiG: this is it: (Link: http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTypen/Fotos/sikorsky/CH-53EF.JPG)http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTypen/Fotos/sikorsky/CH-53EF.JPG
2005.09.02 [13:47] enwilson: aw man, Jesse is talking about global warming right now
2005.09.02 [13:47] Kirlian: scanner trying at: (Link: http://216.22.26.45:8002/)http://216.22.26.45:8002/
2005.09.02 [13:48] The_Tick: ok, i'm going to have to moderate for a sec
2005.09.02 [13:49] marlboro: how many people have died/are expected to die?
2005.09.02 [13:49] sekhmet: enwilson, yume_no_hikari: Groovy; was using an opensource player instead of the "official" windows one, wanted to make sure it wasn't just me
2005.09.02 [13:49] Zombie_Work: Flaim: Like I said, I had hope
2005.09.02 [13:49] *** Mode change "+m" for channel #interdictor-chat by The_Tick.
2005.09.02 [13:49] The_Tick: ok, everyone
2005.09.02 [13:50] The_Tick: general rules again
2005.09.02 [13:50] The_Tick: no name calling
2005.09.02 [13:50] The_Tick: and no starting a flame war
2005.09.02 [13:50] The_Tick: also, no posting phone numbers from the scanners
2005.09.02 [13:51] The_Tick: be nice :)
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2005.09.02 [13:51] spstarr_work: The_Tick: its in the /topic
2005.09.02 [13:51] wankle: thank you
2005.09.02 [13:51] cyberkni: show love
2005.09.02 [13:51] The_Tick: spstarr_work: nobody reads that
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2005.09.02 [13:51] spstarr_work: ;/
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2005.09.02 [13:51] flipmcf: ty tick
2005.09.02 [13:52] flipmcf: where can inexperienced obtain knowledge of terminology and characters used in interdictor-scanner?
2005.09.02 [13:52] Matt_H: damn jesse
2005.09.02 [13:52] voodoo_in_tx: morning The_Tick
2005.09.02 [13:53] Flaim: topic?  heh
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2005.09.02 [13:53] * pussfeller hugs everyone
2005.09.02 [13:53] Elerium: thanks for reading the topic tick
2005.09.02 [13:54] The_Tick: hey voodoo_in_tx
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2005.09.02 [13:54] Brutulf: Let's see...what's the stream from #interdictor-scanner again?
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2005.09.02 [13:54] silver_whisper: flipmcf: just try google. or dictionary.com will sometimes have definitions
2005.09.02 [13:55] cyberkni: ouch
2005.09.02 [13:55] flipmcf: ty
2005.09.02 [13:55] MikeChance: is "castle base" astrodome command?
2005.09.02 [13:56] rose_kennedy: hi griffjon!
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2005.09.02 [13:56] Han\\WRK: its not FEMA
2005.09.02 [13:56] fxt: yeah FEMA is really fucking it up
2005.09.02 [13:57] marlboro: it would have been a bad disaster, regardless
2005.09.02 [13:57] Pak: By the time Katrina was to NO it was Class 2 with 150 mph winds
2005.09.02 [13:58] Han\\WRK: its the NG not being deployed
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2005.09.02 [13:59] FCYTravis: emdub: Guess who appoints the head of FEMA?
2005.09.02 [13:59] soliloquy: The blame first goes to the Bush administration. Since 2001 the federal government has reduced drastically funding to the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. That means the halt of plans for hurricane-proof levees and studies into how to withstand Category 5 hurricanes.
2005.09.02 [13:59] boberz: I'm blaming bush for PULLING THE LEVEE FUNDING
2005.09.02 [14:00] rbw: FEMA was hamstrung when it was put under the DHS
2005.09.02 [14:00] Pak: The National Gaurd is in IRAQ
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2005.09.02 [14:01] streppa: emdub: FEMA can't respond strngly enough. They've been stripped of a lot fo there power, and funding.
2005.09.02 [14:01] [BWC]AntiG: boberz: your facts are wrong
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2005.09.02 [14:01] Matt_H: ask interdictor he saw FEMA pull out od NOLA
2005.09.02 [14:01] pussfeller: the buck stops at bush, not fema
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2005.09.02 [14:02] bboorrgg_666: hmmm i got a webcam feed im looking at but imnot seeing anything but a empty street
2005.09.02 [14:02] Boo: money has been diverted for the levees for years - blame any president since the 60s if you like
2005.09.02 [14:02] WndrBread: CAM UPDATE: it was adjusting and pulled up
2005.09.02 [14:03] Padathir: emdub: people are in fact blaming bush
2005.09.02 [14:04] soliloquy: In the 2006 fiscal year alone, the Corps received a $71.2-million reduction in federal funding.
2005.09.02 [14:04] Han\\WRK: yea its HOMELAND SECURITY, guess who controls that?
2005.09.02 [14:04] Delta18: emdub; fema doesn't have the resources. They never had, ever.
2005.09.02 [14:04] emdub: Oh trust me, Bush is an asstard but at the same time FEMA is trusted with managing this stuff and the ONE word I wouldn't use to describe this situation is managed.
2005.09.02 [14:05] Pak: the one third of the national gaurd that was meant to protect NO IS IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW
2005.09.02 [14:05] WndrBread: can see more skyline now
2005.09.02 [14:06] Cellulaer: bush could have ordered military food and water drops if he had wanted to
2005.09.02 [14:06] dgudea: that fire is def getting worse
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2005.09.02 [14:07] emdub: Some people are blaming Bush, but none of the 51% that voted for him are.
2005.09.02 [14:07] Delta18: Fema has NEVER had the resources it requires; ever. I've been a member since 1993, we've never had what we need and we never probably will
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2005.09.02 [14:07] pussfeller: from watching the X-Files, i was under the impression that FEMA was more organized than this
2005.09.02 [14:08] kc5cqm: sorry to aks a stupid question, but how do you supress joins/quits under xchat?
2005.09.02 [14:08] emdub: Delta, I completely agree
2005.09.02 [14:08] snarky|away: I had a Norwegian ask me, "Isn't the national guard supposed to guard your nation?" I couldn't answer him.
2005.09.02 [14:08] voodoo_in_tx: FEMA's been hamstrung by being made subordinate to Homeland Secuirty
2005.09.02 [14:09] Padathir: I didn't vote for him and I am not.
2005.09.02 [14:10] mathx:  
2005.09.02 [14:10] WndrBread: dgudea: it's going to eat the whole building eventually
2005.09.02 [14:10] mathx: NEED HELP in #nola-intel-help please, for scanner xscription etc
2005.09.02 [14:10] mathx:  
2005.09.02 [14:11] voodoo_in_tx: they basically had their balls cut off
2005.09.02 [14:11] pussfeller: guess you cant beleive everything
2005.09.02 [14:11] Delta18: since we became the bastard child of  dept of homeland security;.
2005.09.02 [14:12] Han\\WRK: haha the xfiles
2005.09.02 [14:12] Boo: fire looks like it jumped down the street a building, these guys should be fine unless it jumps ACROSS the street
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2005.09.02 [14:13] Han\\WRK: good one
2005.09.02 [14:13] dethl: Delta: hasn't FEMA been able to act faster than this though?
2005.09.02 [14:13] marlboro: shit happens
2005.09.02 [14:14] emdub: I'm not saying FEMA has what they need... but you gotta work with what you have.
2005.09.02 [14:14] Padathir: I don't think he's even relevant.
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2005.09.02 [14:15] marlboro: it was bound to occur
2005.09.02 [14:15] izz: its one way to thin the population
2005.09.02 [14:15] Nitin: No FEMA is slow
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2005.09.02 [14:15] Delta18: dethl; of something with this magnatude? No.
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2005.09.02 [14:15] gitrdun: yeah, that national geographic article was very prophetic
2005.09.02 [14:16] soverc_: Lets drop the politics people the Army core of Engineers also said that even with the additions that had been suggested it would not have helped this situation  NO has been very luck over the years, political flame-bait is not going to help,,,,,,all to easy to monday morning quarterback here
2005.09.02 [14:16] Pak: I think this is a demonstration that War Efforts and other large sinkholes for funding are having an impact on our lives.
2005.09.02 [14:17] voodoo_in_tx: dethl - yeah but only before FEMA was made a subordinate agency
2005.09.02 [14:18] Delta18: You guys must not realize how big this is...
2005.09.02 [14:18] rbw: FEMA used to answer to no one.  FEMA could instruct any agency to do its bidding in times of crisis.  when FEMA was put under DHS, it was subject to all the red tape inherent in a massive bereaucracy.  and since this is the first time FEMA has had a real crisis to deal with since 9/11, this is the first time they've actually had to deal with that bureaucracy
2005.09.02 [14:18] voodoo_in_tx: FEMA helped in Andrew
2005.09.02 [14:18] dethl: Delta18: thanks, just wondering
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2005.09.02 [14:18] Delta18: Voodoo; andrew wasn't as big as this is.
2005.09.02 [14:19] mrsquishie: the main thing this demonstrates is that our government at all levels is just completely unprepared for a major national catastrophe
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2005.09.02 [14:19] Marcee: FEMA has helped in FL after every hurricane.
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2005.09.02 [14:20] dgudea: is it just me, or is the media doing a horrible job of covering this?
2005.09.02 [14:20] Marcee: but this is a much bigger problem.
2005.09.02 [14:20] emdub: Squishie: Totally agree 150%
2005.09.02 [14:20] pussfeller: homeland secutiry was too busy rounding up file sharers to cordinate this properly
2005.09.02 [14:20] Delta18: And none of those hurricanes were to this scale.
2005.09.02 [14:21] Nitin: I lost my house in hurricane Ivan (pensacola, FL) and FEMA gave me a blue tarp to put on my roof... i yelled at them "I HAVE NO HOUSE I NEED A PLACE TO STAY" the night after the disaster... I had to lodge around with friends for 3 months before FEMA even took notice... (had to do paperwork)
2005.09.02 [14:21] FCYTravis: mrsquishie: Exactly.
2005.09.02 [14:21] marlboro: inept
2005.09.02 [14:21] Nitin: :\
2005.09.02 [14:21] Pak: Its rumored that volunteers have to go through a security check before FEMA will let them through
2005.09.02 [14:21] dgudea: cnn did such a good job in iraq
2005.09.02 [14:21] voodoo_in_tx: Delta18 a different kind of situation
2005.09.02 [14:22] geekboi: Two questions about the scanner. What is a tfr and what does -unt- mean?
2005.09.02 [14:22] Padathir: dgudea: business as usual
2005.09.02 [14:22] Marcee: Nobody shot at police officers after Andrew
2005.09.02 [14:22] marlboro: government
2005.09.02 [14:24] marlboro: they don't care
2005.09.02 [14:24] RedShift-: what does (unt) mean?
2005.09.02 [14:24] izz: if they had taken the advice of the experts over the past few years and fixed the levy banks and stopped the leaks it never woulda been this bad, ok so it would have cost 14 billion to fix but how muchg is it going to cost to fix now?
2005.09.02 [14:24] mrsquishie: I'd thought before that I wouldn't have to wait three to four days for food and water if there was say a dirty bomb and widespread panic, but now I'm not so sure
2005.09.02 [14:25] Delta18: Guys; I've been doing this for a long time....Fema will never have the resources to handle people shooting at them
2005.09.02 [14:25] emdub: Andrew was bigger than Katrina, but it didn't hit a densly populated area.