Session Start (freenode:#interdictor-tech): Fri Sep 02 01:38:43 2005
2005.09.02 [01:38] *** Initial topic: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | Things like: What is an OC3, how the things are going, how the data is beeing move from NO to the Internet? ;)
2005.09.02 [01:38] *** #interdictor-tech: zeroday jon787 fry nf- illuminarok roo9 ghussey goosemagoo mayo nysin drasch DarkonOSU ben ruck rakslice pepperoni es__ kyhwana Hippo cstine cyberkine meacan Legend Aleithilithos Thrax|away SEWilco falcontx aztennenbaum po OCA| toddmori tristanb jeff WoopWoop foobar--- Longbow RomanCAT davidc_ TexxMexx sent @mathx cregdan jackd @ZOP Sollord grunchley Torg_ vreee BoogedyBo Neit TheWGP Cinder John_K Tetraboy garion Qwijib0 Trixxer 
2005.09.02 [01:38] *** #interdictor-tech: @michaelloftis Patr1ck flip|mirc Sandoz _green CrashCat zooted @selcouth CoolerQ Chimi Monitor_Burn Chichis[Bes] Botunda AmishOne zotted djm londarr restorer moonwick krush02 notFeanor Munkeymon mplex Exstatica CompWizrd xover @ys76 @Yog-home mcortez @speakit Kheirag @Eimann 
2005.09.02 [01:38] *** #interdictor-tech was created on Thu Sep 01 17:40:22 2005.
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2005.09.02 [01:39] Torg_: Brewtown, cheeseland.
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2005.09.02 [01:39] roo9: mayo: i would, what's the link?
2005.09.02 [01:39] Q_Continuum: any info sites/image dumps needing mirrors by chance, or risking going offline due to BW constraints?
2005.09.02 [01:40] mayo: roo9: oh sorry .. it was posted in the other chan .. (Link: http://oyam.ca/interdictor)http://oyam.ca/interdictor
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2005.09.02 [01:40] resistor: ditto what Q_Continuum said
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2005.09.02 [01:40] resistor: i have space and bandwidth to donate if someone needs it
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2005.09.02 [01:40] mayo: roo9: they're raw live with joins/quits/parts filtered out
2005.09.02 [01:40] Q_Continuum: I've got 10+GB space, and 190GB BW for the month that will go unused.
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2005.09.02 [01:40] ghussey: heh
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2005.09.02 [01:41] ghussey: 190gb is going to go pretty fast with this many people
2005.09.02 [01:41] Q_Continuum: haven't switched the client's (tiny) sites over yet.
2005.09.02 [01:41] Q_Continuum: yeah
2005.09.02 [01:41] Q_Continuum: but every mirror helps :D
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2005.09.02 [01:41] Q_Continuum: plus, I can probably get that cap lifted.
2005.09.02 [01:41] Q_Continuum: friend of a friend of the owner.
2005.09.02 [01:41] Q_Continuum: so if needed, I can see what I can do.
2005.09.02 [01:41] mayo: i've got unlimited bw on that box, but it's not on it's own line, it's the last one that couldn't been moved to new colo we were moving to, so not sure how it'll hold up on the old line
2005.09.02 [01:41] [EPC]Starblazer: anyone send back the response from a couple of ppl from nanog?
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2005.09.02 [01:42] ptptechdalvarez: rm
2005.09.02 [01:42] ptptechdalvarez: hrm
2005.09.02 [01:43] ptptechdalvarez: what kind of mirroring are you looking for?
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2005.09.02 [01:44] mayo: ptptechdalvarez: i'm not really looking, but if people want to mirror, the better, will be easier to get to things
2005.09.02 [01:44] resistor: i don't have a lot, but i'm willing to give what i have: 4.8 GB space, 120 GB bandwidth.
2005.09.02 [01:44] ptptechdalvarez: I have plenty of space and bw as well ;) and i'm not capped
2005.09.02 [01:44] ptptechdalvarez: good routes too
2005.09.02 [01:44] ptptechdalvarez: (Link: http://stats.ptptech.com/)http://stats.ptptech.com/
2005.09.02 [01:45] mayo: oh joy, rrd on that box is borked, can't even see the trafic graphs going up .. blah, where's the fun in that
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2005.09.02 [01:45] blanu: Hi all. I'm from ACTLab TV. We have an Internet2 mirror available for any videos from New Orleans. E-mail actlabtv@gmail.com.
2005.09.02 [01:46] Q_Continuum: notes to anyone in need of bandwidth:  If you need it, post how much space you're looking to tie up.  There are lots of us available, and most of us will probably pay attention in here.  OPS: please set a new topic if someone needs stuff mirrored, as it will be taken care of shortly :D
2005.09.02 [01:46] Q_Continuum: should cover the "need a mirror?" question.
2005.09.02 [01:47] resistor: heh
2005.09.02 [01:47] resistor: indeed
2005.09.02 [01:47] mayo: Q_Continuum: put it on the blog as well?
2005.09.02 [01:47] Q_Continuum: yeah, probably.
2005.09.02 [01:48] Q_Continuum: so that the question stops being asked, heh.  mention that until otherwise notified, bw/mirrors are fine, and then post before things hit their caps, so we can get the mirrors running quickly.
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2005.09.02 [01:50] illuminarok: what does outpost crystal mean
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2005.09.02 [01:50] Q_Continuum: name for the hosting facility, I think.
2005.09.02 [01:50] mayo: illuminarok: it's the name for the place were they're staying
2005.09.02 [01:50] Q_Continuum: nickname.
2005.09.02 [01:50] illuminarok: i see
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2005.09.02 [01:50] illuminarok: thank you
2005.09.02 [01:51] [EPC]Starblazer: wow, my G1 gallery doesn't like injesting the first set of photos
2005.09.02 [01:52] roo9: if you guys need it, i have a virtually unlimited account that I can host stuff on
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2005.09.02 [01:53] sent: heh
2005.09.02 [01:53] sent: who's in the webcam?
2005.09.02 [01:53] [EPC]Starblazer: isn't anyone translating the 2nd channel?
2005.09.02 [01:53] sent: -chat is a scrolling troll fest
2005.09.02 [01:53] mayo: front - mike, back - donny
2005.09.02 [01:54] sent: ceo and vp?
2005.09.02 [01:54] mayo: right - (can't see) is crystal
2005.09.02 [01:54] sent: crystal is mike's wife?
2005.09.02 [01:55] toddmori: fiancee
2005.09.02 [01:55] jon787: what is up with the first channel? I'm getting nothing
2005.09.02 [01:55] jon787: [EPC]Starblazer: channel 2 is getting transcribed in #interdictor-scanner2
2005.09.02 [01:55] roo9: there is  a lot of chatter on the 2nd cahnnel
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2005.09.02 [01:56] roo9: so, who are these guys on the webcam                      ?
2005.09.02 [01:56] directnic_rules: Just curious, what kind of storage do you guys use in your datacenter?
2005.09.02 [01:56] [EPC]Starblazer: oof
2005.09.02 [01:56] [EPC]Starblazer: okay
2005.09.02 [01:56] [EPC]Starblazer: my bad
2005.09.02 [01:56] mayo: roo9: the people who keep things running :)
2005.09.02 [01:56] sent: directnic_rules: floppy disks. lots of then.
2005.09.02 [01:56] jon787: [EPC]Starblazer: #-scanner might be doing 2 right now, cause 1 doesn't have anything on it
2005.09.02 [01:56] Q_Continuum: floppy disks? bah!  drums!
2005.09.02 [01:56] resistor: 5 and a half inch floppies ;)
2005.09.02 [01:56] mayo: roo9: mike = interdirector
2005.09.02 [01:56] sent: directnic_rules: we have a 10,000,000 floppy disk raid 0 array.
2005.09.02 [01:57] roo9: directnic_rules: depends on what our customers want, we have people with highly redundant disks and others that use paper tape
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2005.09.02 [01:57] mayo: haha
2005.09.02 [01:57] resistor: and they read/write them by hand with a pair of magnets!
2005.09.02 [01:57] roo9: sent: is that RAID 0 or RAID 1?
2005.09.02 [01:57] Q_Continuum: 8 inch floppies, done by hand with rock!
2005.09.02 [01:57] sent: raid 0, bish
2005.09.02 [01:57] directnic_rules: hehe.. just was curious the brand.. I work in storage
2005.09.02 [01:57] Q_Continuum: raid 0?  hope NONE of them die!
2005.09.02 [01:57] Q_Continuum: :D
2005.09.02 [01:57] jon787: they need to upgrade from RFC1149 to RFC2549 :)
2005.09.02 [01:57] mayo: floppy last long, right...  :)
2005.09.02 [01:57] * jon787 ducks
2005.09.02 [01:57] mayo: s/floppy/floppies
2005.09.02 [01:58] SEWilco: Don't say "raid"!
2005.09.02 [01:58] roo9: sent: you know, 10m floppies is actually a considerable storage amount
2005.09.02 [01:58] mayo: is 2549 the pigeon one?
2005.09.02 [01:58] toddmori: directnic_rules: I am free now, but mainly HDS and IBM 
2005.09.02 [01:58] roo9: ignoring the logistics of actually being the dude who swaps out the 1000000 floppies
2005.09.02 [01:58] jon787: mayo: with quality of service
2005.09.02 [01:58] jon787: 1149 is the original pigeon one
2005.09.02 [01:59] directnic_rules: Cool.  any multi site / remote copy stuff for disaster recovery?
2005.09.02 [01:59] mayo: jon787: ahh i see, neato
2005.09.02 [01:59] roo9: anyone know what % of the fiber capacity in NOLA is still up at the moment?
2005.09.02 [01:59] ssavoie: 1 0C3
2005.09.02 [01:59] * Q_Continuum is IBM GS's bitch right now, not enjoying it much
2005.09.02 [01:59] mayo: directnic_rules: they're backing stuff up offsite and got plenty local backups too, from what i heard
2005.09.02 [01:59] toddmori: DR: yeah, shadowimage and TruCopy, also some time in CNT extenders
2005.09.02 [02:00] roo9: ssavoie: just the 1?
2005.09.02 [02:00] ssavoie: last we heard
2005.09.02 [02:00] roo9: jeebus i feel for them
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2005.09.02 [02:00] notFeanor: there are bellsouth techs working on a few more, i think
2005.09.02 [02:00] ssavoie: correct
2005.09.02 [02:00] notFeanor: the rest are presumably not back since somethingawful is still off the net
2005.09.02 [02:01] mayo: they may not share them though .. somebody way saying bell will only be using them for their own customers/purposes
2005.09.02 [02:01] mayo: but there is always hope
2005.09.02 [02:01] toddmori: directnic_rules: what are you running?
2005.09.02 [02:02] directnic_rules: at home?  I have a PC with raid 1 SATA :)...  at work,  developing enterprise storage units
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2005.09.02 [02:02] directnic_rules: so lots of running, but for the purposes of breaking 
2005.09.02 [02:02] notFeanor: trying to load somethingawful is a good test of what they've got back on
2005.09.02 [02:02] toddmori: been there, was in AIX test (storega) down in Austin
2005.09.02 [02:02] notFeanor: because it's hosted at zipa and used an entire OC-3 on its own userbaese
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2005.09.02 [02:03] directnic_rules: By remote copy  I was talking about real-time site wide failover systems... so you don't have to make copies.. just fail over the site and have continuity of access
2005.09.02 [02:04] mrdark: i love hds..our sales rep is so shady it's great
2005.09.02 [02:04] toddmori: yeah, we had that, using TrueCopy continuous Access across a GigaMAN
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2005.09.02 [02:04] toddmori: we had the primary site, and 2 realtime failovers
2005.09.02 [02:04] directnic_rules: funny, I probably don't know anything about the 'real world'... know the boxes inside and out, every component and line of code but its a whole other task to actually use this stuff right.. SAN specialists need like a phd 
2005.09.02 [02:04] toddmori: mrdark: sounds like some EMC reps I know
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2005.09.02 [02:05] mrdark: our emc reps always make me feel dirty
2005.09.02 [02:05] toddmori: heh, it is not too bad after you get it working
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2005.09.02 [02:05] toddmori: I have always been lucky to have good HDS reps
2005.09.02 [02:05] toddmori: EMC OTOH they are pretty slimy as a whole
2005.09.02 [02:06] mrdark: srdf works ok for us
2005.09.02 [02:06] jon787: EMC needs better Q&A
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2005.09.02 [02:06] roo9: EMC is like the microsoft of the storage world
2005.09.02 [02:06] toddmori: heh, I got myself PNG'ed in hopkinton
2005.09.02 [02:06] jon787: they had a gaping hole in their Celerra NAS last march
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2005.09.02 [02:07] ir8d0g: speaking of microsoft...
2005.09.02 [02:07] toddmori: they even out us in the fishbowl in the front, and segregated us
2005.09.02 [02:07] toddmori: errrr s/out/put
2005.09.02 [02:07] ir8d0g: that's my employer (please shove religious nx wars up your a$$), can i offer any software to help you guys run your site
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2005.09.02 [02:08] mrdark: what hba's do you prefer?
2005.09.02 [02:08] toddmori: I liked JNI, but.....
2005.09.02 [02:08] ir8d0g: contrary to popular opinion, MS isn't the evil empire it's believed to be
2005.09.02 [02:08] directnic_rules: What IBM stuff @ directnic?
2005.09.02 [02:08] ir8d0g: i can get software to you if you are interested
2005.09.02 [02:08] mrdark: ya i like jni too, but i'm learning to dig emulex
2005.09.02 [02:08] [EPC]Starblazer: anybody have a direct link to the WM encoder that the cam is using?  I want to throw my bandwidth to the video cause
2005.09.02 [02:08] toddmori: had luck with Emulex (AIX only likes those) and Qlogic
2005.09.02 [02:08] roo9:  ir8d0g: your right, it's worse
2005.09.02 [02:08] toddmori: man, we had the best reps from JNI
2005.09.02 [02:08] ir8d0g: hehe
2005.09.02 [02:09] Q_Continuum: ir8d0g: I think everyone's doing okay, but I mentioned and mayo mentioned dropping it on the blog, in case bw/etc was needed.
2005.09.02 [02:09] ir8d0g: ok....whatever
2005.09.02 [02:09] roo9: anyone have any need of some fast website hosting?
2005.09.02 [02:09] jon787: anyone who thinks microsoft is bad hasn't heard of IBM's history
2005.09.02 [02:09] ir8d0g: why bash....can you get facts and then admit when MS actually has fewer flaws than most others...
2005.09.02 [02:09] mrdark: qlogic has those 4gb cards out now i think
2005.09.02 [02:10] toddmori: i was loving the onboard multipathing JNI had 
2005.09.02 [02:10] ir8d0g: technical support from MS is second to none...for businesses anyway...i can't believe the public still views MS like they were back in the NT days...such a different company
2005.09.02 [02:10] toddmori: yeah
2005.09.02 [02:11] toddmori: now if the storage mfgrs could just get 4Gb in the arrays
2005.09.02 [02:11] ir8d0g: i thought this was a place where logical people would share ideas to help our fallen town-folk...but sadly facts don't abound from the MS bashing posture of IRC
2005.09.02 [02:11] toddmori: mrdark: BTW, avoid the SVC like the plague
2005.09.02 [02:11] mrdark: are there even any switches out there that have 4gb ports?
2005.09.02 [02:11] toddmori: yeah
2005.09.02 [02:11] ir8d0g: i'll be here if anyone wants to pvt a logical conversation about things
2005.09.02 [02:11] toddmori: brocade  has the 4100 and the 48000
2005.09.02 [02:11] mrdark: ah
2005.09.02 [02:12] toddmori: we will see what McCNT does
2005.09.02 [02:12] jon787: ir8d0g: I'd go for a logical discussion, but this isn't a good place and there really isn't much to discuss. MS isn't that bad as far as companies go
2005.09.02 [02:12] jon787: back in the day IBM was bad
2005.09.02 [02:12] mrdark: never had much dealing with mcdata or cnt
2005.09.02 [02:13] ir8d0g: yeah...but they tried too...just not good enough
2005.09.02 [02:13] toddmori: we beta'd the CNT UMD director at a former job
2005.09.02 [02:13] directnic_rules: IBM DS4800 is 4gb
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2005.09.02 [02:13] toddmori: dude, the DS line is ok, but, seriously avoid the SVC
2005.09.02 [02:13] directnic_rules: hehe
2005.09.02 [02:14] toddmori: 8 redundant inbounds, 16 connections to the array
2005.09.02 [02:14] mrdark: sweet
2005.09.02 [02:14] toddmori: one inbound goes down, the thing shat itself
2005.09.02 [02:14] toddmori: I stick with my tagmas for virtualization
2005.09.02 [02:16] toddmori: beta'd that too
2005.09.02 [02:16] toddmori: sweet box
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2005.09.02 [02:16] mrdark: ya hds keeps trying to sell us one
2005.09.02 [02:16] Number44: which DS do you guys have?  6000 or 8000
2005.09.02 [02:16] mrdark: a few more trips to the vip lounge at dallas gentlemens club might convince us
2005.09.02 [02:16] toddmori: seriously, can virtualize anything
2005.09.02 [02:16] Number44: we're seriously looking at a DS8000 for work
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2005.09.02 [02:16] toddmori: I have only worked with the 4000 series
2005.09.02 [02:16] sent: heh
2005.09.02 [02:16] Number44: ahh 4000 that's their previous iteration
2005.09.02 [02:16] toddmori: anything has to be better than shark
2005.09.02 [02:16] sent: who wants to see a funny photochop i did? :)
2005.09.02 [02:16] sent: (Link: http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg)http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
2005.09.02 [02:16] mrdark: shark has crappy io from what i recall
2005.09.02 [02:17] sent: the directnic people will appreciate this
2005.09.02 [02:17] toddmori: 4000 series is midrange storage (read cheap)
2005.09.02 [02:17] Number44: hahah what's wrong with shark, we had a 2105, seemed to work great
2005.09.02 [02:17] toddmori: yeah, the shark has FC frontend, going across 2 RS/6000s pci buses to SSA onthe backend
2005.09.02 [02:17] mrdark: we just bought 6 dmx3000's
2005.09.02 [02:17] toddmori: serious bottlenecks
2005.09.02 [02:17] Number44: SSA was crap that's for damn sure
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2005.09.02 [02:17] Number44: ds8000 is FC now all thru or so I think
2005.09.02 [02:17] toddmori: HDS, or EMC can run circles around a 2105
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2005.09.02 [02:18] toddmori: same with the SVC FC->2 or 4 linux boxes (PCI)->FC
2005.09.02 [02:18] mrdark: 2105 no muey bueno
2005.09.02 [02:18] toddmori: it just kills bandwidth
2005.09.02 [02:19] Number44: don't think they're selling 2105 anymore, it's all 2107
2005.09.02 [02:19] toddmori: EMC needs to get virtualization in-band to be a player
2005.09.02 [02:19] toddmori: 2105-800 is still available
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2005.09.02 [02:20] jon787: EMC needs to put a small bit of quality control in their software so I can't find grave security holes unintentionally withint 10 minutes of using their system
2005.09.02 [02:20] toddmori: heh
2005.09.02 [02:20] jon787: as a user, not an admin. I still have no clue what system the IT dept has
2005.09.02 [02:21] toddmori: maybe they should just get it over with and buy FalconStor
2005.09.02 [02:21] jon787: except that its EMC
2005.09.02 [02:21] jon787: and EMC wanted the hole kept quiet
2005.09.02 [02:21] mrdark: i think i got a sec advisory from them about it last week
2005.09.02 [02:21] toddmori: nice
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2005.09.02 [02:21] jon787: mrdark: I found this in March
2005.09.02 [02:21] mrdark: heh
2005.09.02 [02:22] jon787: its been patched here since after finals week last spring
2005.09.02 [02:22] toddmori: have any of you been to the EMC offices in hopkinton in the last year or so?
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2005.09.02 [02:22] mrdark: ah n/m that is a cpu patch or something
2005.09.02 [02:22] jon787: this would be a directory traversal flaw patch
2005.09.02 [02:22] toddmori: ouch
2005.09.02 [02:22] jon787: lets just say I made it into the root of the NFS server
2005.09.02 [02:22] Number44: heard that IBM had some crazy 49 day issue and the box would crash
2005.09.02 [02:22] jon787: from a NFS client
2005.09.02 [02:22] mrdark: not i..been doing mainly HDS until like 2 months ago
2005.09.02 [02:23] jon787: and out onto NFS shares not exported to my workstation
2005.09.02 [02:23] toddmori: the 49day issue was the 4.4.x firmware from Brocade
2005.09.02 [02:23] toddmori: I think 4.4.2 was supposed to fix it
2005.09.02 [02:23] Number44: yah I heard about the brocade one, but this was even if you were sitting there with nothing attached
2005.09.02 [02:23] toddmori: yeah, it was a buffer overflow 
2005.09.02 [02:24] mrdark: todd, ever use a qlogic switch?  curious if they are worth a flip
2005.09.02 [02:24] toddmori: BTW, if I ever see another brocade 3900 I will take an axe to it
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2005.09.02 [02:24] toddmori: nah, mainly brocade and McData
2005.09.02 [02:25] sent: (Link: http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg)http://www.redfaktor.com/dump/fedex_nola.jpg
2005.09.02 [02:25] toddmori: I used some of their FC hubs back in the day, those were reliable at least
2005.09.02 [02:26] mrdark: ah.  
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2005.09.02 [02:36] roo9: good one sent
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2005.09.02 [02:37] nefarioushex: Hey folks.
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2005.09.02 [02:42] Eimann: g'morning ;)
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2005.09.02 [02:43] Eimann: Any news? OC3s back up?
2005.09.02 [02:43] roo9: onlyonelastiheard
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2005.09.02 [02:43] illuminarok: one oc3 is good
2005.09.02 [02:43] roo9: okspacebarnotworkinghereitseems
2005.09.02 [02:43] sent: haha
2005.09.02 [02:43] sent: one oc3 is not enough
2005.09.02 [02:44] shanes: not for what we do
2005.09.02 [02:44] roo9: notnearly
2005.09.02 [02:44] illuminarok: i see
2005.09.02 [02:44] illuminarok: what all do you guys do?
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2005.09.02 [02:44] illuminarok: i don't know a thing about directNIC lol
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2005.09.02 [02:44] nefarioushex: They're a hosting company. 
2005.09.02 [02:44] sent: i'm in charge of riding the stationary bike that's connected to the generator that's keeping me on IRC
2005.09.02 [02:44] roo9: i'mnetworkadministratoroneitseemswhohasnospacebaronhiskeyboard--this-is-annoying
2005.09.02 [02:44] nefarioushex: I was gonna comment on that, roo.
2005.09.02 [02:45] shanes: directnic is a domain registrar, we've got hosting, colocation...
2005.09.02 [02:45] nefarioushex: I'd fedex you one but i suspect it would get looted.
2005.09.02 [02:45] otaku42: what's an OC3?
2005.09.02 [02:45] otaku42: (just to pick up that question from topic ;))
2005.09.02 [02:45] nefarioushex: Hehe.
2005.09.02 [02:45] illuminarok: go into charmap and find one of the spaces and copy it 
2005.09.02 [02:45] sent: shanes: you in the room with donny and mike?
2005.09.02 [02:45] illuminarok: and use ctrl+v to paste spaces in yoru words
2005.09.02 [02:45] N`Grath: i'm a bit surprised their leased lines even stayed up this long, considering our infrastructure over here
2005.09.02 [02:45] nefarioushex: There's lateral thinking for you.
2005.09.02 [02:45] shanes: no, i'm an hour south of new orleans right now
2005.09.02 [02:45] roo9: kind of got the spacebar back now, that's good
2005.09.02 [02:45] shanes: working remotely
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2005.09.02 [02:46] hfx_ben: anyone awake?
2005.09.02 [02:46] hfx_ben: Can someone tell me what this signifies: "Please use the alternate mirrors that are just as good so we can keep the mirror on the original for everyone to share."
2005.09.02 [02:46] roo9: anyway, i'm a network administrator for a company here in new york that does high-bandwdith web/media hosting
2005.09.02 [02:46] illuminarok: i see
2005.09.02 [02:46] nefarioushex: I'm a netadmin, so if you need any nokia / checkpoint / linux type assistance, i'll lend whatever hand i can. But it sounds like you rather need your fibre working to me.
2005.09.02 [02:47] illuminarok: well see i'm just wondering how is it even possible that the internet and the optical connections are working at all...
2005.09.02 [02:47] hfx_ben: Why is this a bad idea?   * The Mirror Feed: (Link: http://ods.org:8003/fema)http://ods.org:8003/fema ... what's bad about this mirror?
2005.09.02 [02:47] illuminarok: in NOLA
2005.09.02 [02:47] shanes: thanks, and yes.
2005.09.02 [02:48] roo9: f~illuminarok: redundancy, and a healthy dose of luck i think
2005.09.02 [02:48] shanes: OC3s are running on generators down the street, the data center is on diesel also
2005.09.02 [02:48] illuminarok: i see
2005.09.02 [02:48] illuminarok: that's insane
2005.09.02 [02:48] sent: shanes: bellsouth has enough fuel, yes?
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2005.09.02 [02:48] shanes: unknown.
2005.09.02 [02:48] roo9: last I heard they had 3-weeks worth
2005.09.02 [02:48] otaku42: hfx_ben: i think it means that the main server should be reserved for connections from mirror servers, and the mirrors should be used by the listeners.
2005.09.02 [02:48] N`Grath: illuminarok: you can easily go 100-200km on a optical fibre before you need repeaters. and since fibre is often buried, it is more likely to survive a hurricane than telephone poles
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2005.09.02 [02:48] illuminarok: do you guys have plenty of vonage adapters so you can get "landlines" going?
2005.09.02 [02:49] shanes: if we can get fuel in, i imagine they have no problems
2005.09.02 [02:49] sent: roo9: DirectNIC has 3 weeks worth of fuel, Bellsouth.. ?
2005.09.02 [02:49] illuminarok: there's always skypeout but vonage would be ideal
2005.09.02 [02:49] nefarioushex: (Link: www.sipgate.co.uk)www.sipgate.co.uk
2005.09.02 [02:50] N`Grath: shanes: i'm more worried about their leased line providers
2005.09.02 [02:50] roo9: sent: oh, probably not nearly that much
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2005.09.02 [02:50] nefarioushex: Yeah, could be sucky if the backbone drops off.
2005.09.02 [02:50] hfx_ben: no answer from tech?
2005.09.02 [02:50] roo9: sent: we had the problem after 9/11, our datacenter had fuel for MANY days, but core routers went offline we were down to a small % of capacity, it was un-pretty
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2005.09.02 [02:50] hfx_ben: Shouldn't be such a major prob ... guys?
2005.09.02 [02:50] illuminarok: i wonder whats going to happen down there.. i'm in tennessee my uncle and aunt lived 50 miles west of nola but they were in korea at the time katrina hit
2005.09.02 [02:51] nefarioushex: Weren't some of the core routers IN the wtc?
2005.09.02 [02:51] shanes: can't give much of a status on network, i'm a developer :/
2005.09.02 [02:51] hfx_ben: otak ... sorry,missed your text ... thanks
2005.09.02 [02:51] otaku42: hfx_ben: np
2005.09.02 [02:51] otaku42: hfx_ben: but that was just a guess, i'm no techie
2005.09.02 [02:52] otaku42: hfx_ben: (at least not related to these streams)
2005.09.02 [02:52] roo9: what's the name of that website that lets you trace AS paths? i never can remember.
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2005.09.02 [02:54] hfx_ben: awwww geesch ... working by committee
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2005.09.02 [02:59] nefarioushex: Will samspade do?
2005.09.02 [02:59] nefarioushex: XD
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2005.09.02 [03:00] shanes: has anyone else's spam slowed down considerably since the disaster? 
2005.09.02 [03:00] Number44: shanes: it was that viagra spammer that got busted
2005.09.02 [03:00] Number44: wrote 70k perscriptions
2005.09.02 [03:01] Number44: arrested, spam REALLY slwoed down
2005.09.02 [03:01] shanes: well, we do have some big spammers here around the Slidell area
2005.09.02 [03:01] nefarioushex: Funny imagery comes to my mind when someone mentions viagra spam. :|
2005.09.02 [03:01] shanes: that may have been him, not sure.
2005.09.02 [03:02] nefarioushex: Let me check my antispam thingie.
2005.09.02 [03:03] roo9: shanes: yes, it's down to about 42% spam for the past 24 hours
2005.09.02 [03:03] nefarioushex: About the same for me, but i'mn not in NOLA.
2005.09.02 [03:03] nefarioushex: ...
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2005.09.02 [03:04] roo9: me neither, but i am usually at 60+%
2005.09.02 [03:04] nefarioushex: Maybe this is to be thought of as like the Great Fire of London, which cleaned up the bubonic plague.
2005.09.02 [03:04] roo9: f~nefarioushex: if you ask the anti-gay christians that's exactly what it is
2005.09.02 [03:05] roo9: and we are the plague
2005.09.02 [03:05] nefarioushex: Oh jesus.
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2005.09.02 [03:05] nefarioushex: People like that need to be stopped.
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2005.09.02 [03:06] roo9: hell yes
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2005.09.02 [03:07] inter110:    
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2005.09.02 [03:08] roo9: so, anyone here agree with me and think that rebuilding NOLA is probably a waste of time?
2005.09.02 [03:08] nefarioushex: Yeah, make a new town.
2005.09.02 [03:08] shanes: well, that's easy to say if you aren't from here
2005.09.02 [03:08] roo9: your right, it is easier because I have never been there even
2005.09.02 [03:09] roo9: but, i think it's like when I was a child
2005.09.02 [03:09] roo9: i would spend hours at the beach building intricate systems of sand walls and trenches et al
2005.09.02 [03:09] Eimann: streams are back online, added them on (Link: http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/)http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/ - (Link: http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3)http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 and (Link: http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no2.mp3)http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no2.mp3
2005.09.02 [03:09] inter878: how can i get the live feed of police, etc., scanners?
2005.09.02 [03:09] roo9: all in the path of the oncoming water, and no matter what I did at the end of the day the water always rose up and destroyed it
2005.09.02 [03:09] shanes: it's a really old place with more history than most of this country.
2005.09.02 [03:09] shanes: kind of hard to let something like that go
2005.09.02 [03:10] roo9: shanes: but what if most of that history is already destroyed?
2005.09.02 [03:10] roo9: by the time the water recedes there may not be much left to save
2005.09.02 [03:10] shanes: it's not that bad, lots of places were never flooded
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2005.09.02 [03:12] Etcetera: FYI:...
2005.09.02 [03:12] londarr: it is still a very valuable peice of land, and lots of the inferstructure is still intact
2005.09.02 [03:12] * Etcetera is the Sr. Sysadmin at a SoCal ISP.. lots of hosting space and bw available for katrina-related stuff if needed: One of our founders is from LA
2005.09.02 [03:12] roo9: i just hope that after everyone is safe, that BEFORE they start pouring billions in to rebuild that they take some time to consider wether or not to rebuild
2005.09.02 [03:13] londarr: infrastructure*
2005.09.02 [03:13] shanes: anyone know offhand where cvs-pserver login/password info might be stored?
2005.09.02 [03:13] davidc_: well, IMHO, since the land is lower than sea level, seems sorta masochistic to me.
2005.09.02 [03:13] Eimann: i'll be back in one hour i hope, bbl
2005.09.02 [03:13] nefarioushex: Depends what CVS daemon you're using i guess.
2005.09.02 [03:14] SEWilco: Land surface can be made higher.
2005.09.02 [03:14] inter878: where can i get instructions on connection to the scanners via internet?
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2005.09.02 [03:15] londarr: as long as the levees are made cat5+ storm proof it can still be a safe place
2005.09.02 [03:15] NotJust4Breakfas: the rebuilding, as well as the reason a lot of people live there in the first place, is rooted in semi-sensical sentimental notions of history and charm
2005.09.02 [03:16] NotJust4Breakfas: Anyone who goes 
2005.09.02 [03:16] shanes: there are lots of songs about New Orleans for a reason.
2005.09.02 [03:16] NotJust4Breakfas: "AHHHH" at the mention of "French Quarter" knows what I'm talking about
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2005.09.02 [03:17] NotJust4Breakfas: or Bourbon Street
2005.09.02 [03:17] nefarioushex: Does it have a Rogue's Quarter?
2005.09.02 [03:17] davidc_: oh, I know the place is litterally full of history
2005.09.02 [03:17] nefarioushex: Moon over bourbon street is a nice song.
2005.09.02 [03:17] NotJust4Breakfas: THat would currently be THREE quarters 
2005.09.02 [03:17] davidc_: but any raising of the land would destroy most of that history
2005.09.02 [03:18] NotJust4Breakfas: yes
2005.09.02 [03:18] NotJust4Breakfas: As well as being fantastically infeasible
2005.09.02 [03:18] davidc_: of course :P
2005.09.02 [03:18] davidc_: but it was brought up above.
2005.09.02 [03:18] inter878: this is the tech channel - where can i find tech instructions on connecting to police scanners?
2005.09.02 [03:18] NotJust4Breakfas: They could as easily live in balloons
2005.09.02 [03:19] shanes: levee strengthening, and more importantly, marshland revival would need to be invested in greatly
2005.09.02 [03:19] NotJust4Breakfas: are you reading the transcribed channels?
2005.09.02 [03:20] nefarioushex: I've got to go to the office.
2005.09.02 [03:20] nefarioushex: I'll be back.
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2005.09.02 [03:43] roo9: ok, i am going to sleep
2005.09.02 [03:45] roo9: if any of you guys want some katrina hosting, i can offer help :-)
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2005.09.02 [03:52] Eimann: inconnect to it with your favourite mediaplayer
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2005.09.02 [03:53] Eimann: roo9: Thanks, we should setup a list on the wiki where we can collect the offerings. and a tech-faq is needed to it seems
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2005.09.02 [03:54] Eimann: i'll do it when i'm back
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2005.09.02 [04:23] hfx_ben: hey eiman ... all well?
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2005.09.02 [04:35] Karotte: hi
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2005.09.02 [04:38] hfx_ben: hi Kar
2005.09.02 [04:39] michaelloftis: hey eimann... +o here buddie.
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2005.09.02 [04:41] Eimann: hfx_ben: i'm fine, and you?
2005.09.02 [04:43] ben: I totally wish you guys would stop highlighting me.
2005.09.02 [04:43] ben: I really need to fix this.
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2005.09.02 [04:44] Eimann: I've to go now, ttyl ;)
2005.09.02 [04:50] michaelloftis: Eimann: thnx BTW
2005.09.02 [04:51] michaelloftis: sorry i'm backlogged and my food is just finished cooking and i haven't eaten all day so i'm slobbering.
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2005.09.02 [04:57] Eimann|mobile: re. jmirc on my mobile.
2005.09.02 [04:58] Eimann|mobile: :-)
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2005.09.02 [05:22] Eimann|mobile: hi tothic
2005.09.02 [05:22] illuminarok: Astrodome is not allowing anymore passengers inside.
2005.09.02 [05:23] illuminarok: The people who got off the busses at Astrodome were told they cannot go inside and the busses already left.
2005.09.02 [05:24] {dm}: Illum: They are sending them to other places like the areana .. I have heard chatter of Reliant also
2005.09.02 [05:25] illuminarok: ah thanks dm
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2005.09.02 [05:30] *** Initial topic: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | Things like: What is an OC3, how the things are going, how the data is beeing move from NO to the Internet? ;)
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2005.09.02 [06:38] Eimann: re
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2005.09.02 [07:22] *** Initial topic: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | Things like: What is an OC3, how the things are going, how the data is beeing move from NO to the Internet? ;)
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2005.09.02 [08:56] *** Initial topic: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | Things like: What is an OC3, how the things are going, how the data is beeing move from NO to the Internet? ;)
2005.09.02 [08:56] *** #interdictor-tech: zeroday Starblazer psirom CiscoJones ben___ bin11 cfm X15 goosemagoo mcsmurf Strykr hoxu FDS vverpoort Reece mads99999 _nexxus_ dineleeeee wemmi milno iapx8088 besonen_ D-j-m swax Pete_O Clifff ha Shoragan knG Tuba_ thaw thothic Karotte spamfilter {dm} majik @michaelloftis mturkington omo2 Etcetera Evo_9 BlurredWe @ZOP N`Grath otaku42 RossH jauer Number44 silas Foodie mritche Aleithilithos hnhansen budlazier|racing TC_Sleep KronicD 
2005.09.02 [08:56] *** #interdictor-tech: dalvarez cuj0___ blanu spinal rilliam jon787 illuminarok roo9 mayo drasch es__ cstine meacan SEWilco falcontx po toddmori tristanb jeff Longbow davidc_ @mathx jackd Sollord Torg_ Neit TheWGP Cinder John_K Tetraboy garion Qwijib0 Trixxer flip|mirc Sandoz _green zooted @selcouth CoolerQ Chimi Monitor_Burn Chichis[Bes] AmishOne zotted londarr restorer moonwick krush02 notFeanor mplex Exstatica CompWizrd xover @Yog-home mcortez @speakit 
2005.09.02 [08:56] *** #interdictor-tech: Kheirag @Eimann 
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2005.09.02 [09:10] Karotte: Eimann: I'm using lighttpd for such sites, the numbers are incredible
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2005.09.02 [09:12] Karotte: Apache: 300 req/s, lighttpd: 3k-15k req/s
2005.09.02 [09:15] Eimann: Jep :)
2005.09.02 [09:17] Yog-home: apache is so bloated
2005.09.02 [09:17] Eimann: lighttpd is cool, boa also
2005.09.02 [09:20] X15: But can lighthttpd do everything Apache can do?
2005.09.02 [09:21] X15: Apache is big for a reason
2005.09.02 [09:22] Yog-home: probably not
2005.09.02 [09:26] iapx8088: any help wanted?
2005.09.02 [09:30] Yog-home: heh.. I should send interdictor my canon 20D and 300MM IS lense
2005.09.02 [09:32] Yog-home: then he could take better shots
2005.09.02 [09:32] Yog-home: :)
2005.09.02 [09:33] X15: iapx8088: Update teh wiki
2005.09.02 [09:35] Eimann: Yog-home: Uh yeah :)
2005.09.02 [09:36] X15: I think he'd probably perferr a good scope, lol
2005.09.02 [09:37] Eimann: Yog-home: I got only a 350D with 300mm IS Lense :)
2005.09.02 [09:37] Yog-home: 350D is nice too
2005.09.02 [09:40] Yog-home: or 'Rebel XT' as they call it here
2005.09.02 [09:40] Yog-home: I also have an old Rebel
2005.09.02 [09:40] Yog-home: I keep meaning to sell it
2005.09.02 [09:43] iapx8088: X15, I'm in italy, I have no first-hand news. I'm trying to collect some and put in my italian wifi
2005.09.02 [09:44] iapx8088: s/wifi/blog/
2005.09.02 [09:45] Yog-home: 350D can do almost everything the 20D can do, cept it doesn't ahve ISO 3200 mode, and it doesn't shoot full auto as fast (3fps vs. 5fps on the 20d)
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2005.09.02 [09:47] Eimann: "italian wifi" is cool ;-))
2005.09.02 [09:48] iapx8088: X15, but if you wish, I can try...
2005.09.02 [09:49] iapx8088: Eimann, italian wifi, is usually open :)
2005.09.02 [09:52] Yog-home: Eimann: www3.jsbc.cc/gallery <- those all taken w/ the 300D or 20D :)
2005.09.02 [09:52] Eimann: My german wifi (ESSID: OpenAP) is usually open too :)
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2005.09.02 [09:54] Eimann: Yog-home: i've my picturs on gallery.etherkiller.de - login is gallery:gallery
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2005.09.02 [10:03] Yog-home: You don't have permission to access /gallery/ on this server.
2005.09.02 [10:04] Yog-home: oh..hold on
2005.09.02 [10:05] Yog-home: bad url
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2005.09.02 [10:07] Yog-home: oh good.. i get to practice my german from high school 20 years ago :)
2005.09.02 [10:12] Yog-home: Eimann: most my pics are motorsports releated :)
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2005.09.02 [10:16] Eimann: I see ;)
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2005.09.02 [10:19] Eimann: Yog-home: I'm actually looking at the babes album ;)
2005.09.02 [10:22] Yog-home: ah :)
2005.09.02 [10:22] Yog-home: the motoGP babes eh ? :)
2005.09.02 [10:24] Yog-home: I was pretty bold that day...like paparazzi or something
2005.09.02 [10:28] Eimann: jep ;)
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2005.09.02 [10:31] *** Initial topic: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | Things like: What is an OC3, how the things are going, how the data is beeing move from NO to the Internet? ;)
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2005.09.02 [10:57] gooroo: is the video feed still alive?
2005.09.02 [11:01] Eimann: (Link: http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans)http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans works for me
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2005.09.02 [11:05] galaad2: Eimann, that feed is 327 Kbps.. have you got one a little less bandwidth hungry ?
2005.09.02 [11:05] galaad2: i'm on a measly 256 kbps link here
2005.09.02 [11:06] * riel is more worried about the server running out of bandwidth
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2005.09.02 [11:08] galaad2: oh goodie.. it downgraded itself automatically to 163 kbps
2005.09.02 [11:10] Eimann: galaad2: nope, sorry. Try to enlarge your players cach
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2005.09.02 [11:54] *** Initial topic: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | Things like: What is an OC3, how the things are going, how the data is beeing move from NO to the Internet? ;)
2005.09.02 [11:54] *** #interdictor-tech: zeroday Sheck kslc rigbyd kaniff frank___ clsk Perite shogun iapx8088 korben Biff` jtk10 Edgan xover mojo Uebtu t3t kobold_ torg jason^ DJFengShui trizzo shanes Ben-377T shamgar galaad2 Hippo remongrel D90 AU[work] avu wemmi tenebrous insane^ Alex_NYC stew Sweeper eMoose Astinus alex__ Roy LoRez riel moonwick SP4Ruisi L-ox aloril CiscoJones jv princessfrozen mcbridematt fooki_ jwiv Fugger OctZ gooroo cytrox [R]itchie Fishwaldo Starblazer 
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2005.09.02 [12:22] mith_: i am getting the following error message when trying to view the video feed - "WMP cannot connect to server..."
2005.09.02 [12:22] torg: Yes, the wiki is down, and people are working on it now.. it was reported in the main chan.
2005.09.02 [12:22] mith_: have been getting it all morning
2005.09.02 [12:24] torg: [11:01:03 AM] <jon787> the camera feeds go reset a short time ago, if you are having problems in the last 30 minutes, try reconnecting now
2005.09.02 [12:25] torg: From main chan on video feeds.
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2005.09.02 [12:35] torg: It's still endless buffering on this end, but I can connect.
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2005.09.02 [12:56] Eimann: torg: We're trying to move our relay ((Link: http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans)http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans) from the mises relay to the original source stream
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2005.09.02 [12:57] torg: Nice.  The mirroring effort being done is amazing.
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2005.09.02 [13:05] Ben-377T: torg - no joke!  very impressive
2005.09.02 [13:07] stew: anything being done to fix (Link: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Current_events)http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Current_events ?  anyway I can help?  I know php/linux/etc...
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2005.09.02 [13:08] *** Initial topic: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | We need Darwin Streaming Server users to help out setting up DSS to relay wmv-streams. | (Link: http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/)http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/streaming/
2005.09.02 [13:08] *** #interdictor-tech: zeroday klaude cshields tduffey shanes tom-33517 zoltanzylox MaxieZ Mongo1 phtn WesM mikey-b Houston xyz11 Eggatwork T-Dawg Dershiva chang8ling Md p25 m242 Ryan___ theagent looi x222943 spydum Bluelive jnagro ServMe Nib ratman2 Starblazer kr4z pwaterman geniusj @doofoo tolkachi blutarski BrianAtDynDNS icculus holyhell sponge|TWL ms-tech-jm emrys Abudiwa Shoragan jmcleod bob_too none2 JaySuds TXPicker @MrPants Mrdini mxhess travisd 
2005.09.02 [13:08] *** #interdictor-tech: nouv WeyrNet-James Lodion Kremit Tuba__ Perite res0nat0r apollo48 bdonlan @Nac-paradox @NACAlex MatthewAT princessfrozen that muppmat Thrax|away royb |ynchmob cHoNg` nulli Sheck kaniff frank___ shogun iapx8088 korben Biff` Edgan xover mojo Uebtu kobold_ torg jason^ DJFengShui trizzo Ben-377T shamgar Hippo remongrel D90 AU[work] avu wemmi tenebrous Alex_NYC stew Sweeper eMoose alex__ Roy LoRez riel SP4Ruisi moonwick aloril jv mcbridematt 
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2005.09.02 [13:08] *** #interdictor-tech: toddmori tristanb jeff Longbow davidc_ @mathx jackd Sollord Torg_ Neit TheWGP Cinder John_K Tetraboy garion Qwijib0 Trixxer flip|mirc Sandoz zooted @selcouth CoolerQ Chimi Monitor_Burn Chichis[Bes] zotted londarr restorer krush02 notFeanor mplex Exstatica CompWizrd @Yog-home mcortez @speakit Kheirag @Eimann 
2005.09.02 [13:08] X15: You will get a source guys! Be patient for now!
2005.09.02 [13:08] nouv: who's handling the website for the pictures?
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2005.09.02 [13:09] theagent: only mirrors will have feed
2005.09.02 [13:09] nouv: i found the caching service
2005.09.02 [13:09] Houston: you have Windows Media Services installed?
2005.09.02 [13:09] MaxieZ: Sure thing.  If patience is needed
2005.09.02 [13:10] doofoo: i have the web pics
2005.09.02 [13:10] jnagro: someone msg me with instructions and i can have a howto page up
2005.09.02 [13:10] Houston: give me a sec to put it together
2005.09.02 [13:10] Houston: a howto
2005.09.02 [13:10] Starblazer: I can either do WMS or Darwin
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2005.09.02 [13:12] doofoo: brb.. stepping out for a min
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2005.09.02 [13:12] Starblazer: i'd rather use darwin for the WMS stream
2005.09.02 [13:12] MaxieZ: I'm with natnet.  I'm going to mirror when I get a location.  FWIW
2005.09.02 [13:12] shanes: hey, anyone in here proficient in Darwin/BSD feel like helping one of the business in Poydras Center move their data?  I'm really swamped dealing with directNIC right now and can't help him
2005.09.02 [13:12] klaude: I'll set up a mirror. I have a freebsd server on a 100mbit connection not doing much atm.
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2005.09.02 [13:15] tolkachi: **Apple DevGroup Login: Nola-intel Pw: nolaintel
2005.09.02 [13:15] mxhess: I work with OpenBSD
2005.09.02 [13:17] icculus: (Link: http://treefort.icculus.org/interdictor/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Linux.tar.gz)http://treefort.icculus.org/interdictor/DarwinStreamingSrvr5.5-Linux.tar.gz  <-- here's the red hat DSS package, the url above was a 403
2005.09.02 [13:17] Starblazer: i'm a linux / gentoo guy
2005.09.02 [13:19] Lodion: thanks icculus
2005.09.02 [13:20] X15: Anyone that wants to provide a mirror setup Darwin or WMS on your box, you will get a feed where were ready for you
2005.09.02 [13:21] theagent: Darwin kicks butt for doing this kind of stuff
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2005.09.02 [13:23] Bluelive: only make a handfull of lvl 1 mirrors
2005.09.02 [13:23] WeyrNet-James: I'm downloading Darwin now
2005.09.02 [13:23] Bluelive: let others mirror that
2005.09.02 [13:23] Starblazer: same
2005.09.02 [13:23] theagent: yeah... do like 5 to 10 seed feeds
2005.09.02 [13:23] jwiv: X15, what level of connection are we talking about required for this?
2005.09.02 [13:23] spydum: yep, need a real hierarchy of feeds
2005.09.02 [13:25] Nac-paradox: OC-48
2005.09.02 [13:25] Houston: x15 I can have it up in a sec
2005.09.02 [13:25] NACAlex: this will eat 100 mb/s without thinking about it
2005.09.02 [13:26] jnagro: we need docs, instructions, i can make a static page
2005.09.02 [13:26] shanes: it's basically just tarring/ftping drives for him.. 
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2005.09.02 [13:26] jnagro: msg me with an outline, i can have a staic page up
2005.09.02 [13:26] Houston: x15: or 2 :)
2005.09.02 [13:27] shanes: his icq is 305451910
2005.09.02 [13:27] shanes: thanks in advance
2005.09.02 [13:28] MrPants: ok
2005.09.02 [13:28] trizzo: NACAlex : whats the url to the stream?
2005.09.02 [13:29] silas: does DSS even allow you to relay WMS stuff?
2005.09.02 [13:30] NACAlex: funny, i don't know
2005.09.02 [13:32] trizzo: gimme url to graphs! ;-)
2005.09.02 [13:32] nouv: anyone here at google?
2005.09.02 [13:34] Knobee: we need akamai to help out.
2005.09.02 [13:35] Nac-paradox: heh
2005.09.02 [13:36] Nac-paradox: akamai
2005.09.02 [13:37] theagent: I'm waiting to hear from VitalStream here on the West Coast.
2005.09.02 [13:37] X15: You will all get a stream when it's ready, for now just get ready for it
2005.09.02 [13:38] NACAlex: akamai is already
2005.09.02 [13:40] theagent: its all they freaking do, media streaming
2005.09.02 [13:41] Houston: X15: Am ready for the stream to start mirroring
2005.09.02 [13:41] Knobee: oh.. hi Alex.  8-)
2005.09.02 [13:41] X15: They do more
2005.09.02 [13:41] X15: Good, now wait till we are
2005.09.02 [13:41] jnagro: i would like to help, what can i mirror?
2005.09.02 [13:41] Eggatwork: x15 what server software 
2005.09.02 [13:41] Houston: X15: nm just looked up / am ready
2005.09.02 [13:41] nouv: NACAlex: are they caching the pictures now?
2005.09.02 [13:41] jnagro: instructions? photos? streams?
2005.09.02 [13:41] Bluelive: seriously need a european mirror ;)
2005.09.02 [13:41] X15: Darwin or WMS
2005.09.02 [13:42] trizzo: • Police sergeant says many officers drowned on the job
2005.09.02 [13:42] trizzo: • Officer spots bodies riddled by bullets; man's head shot off
2005.09.02 [13:42] trizzo: ouch
2005.09.02 [13:42] NACAlex: how do you think cnn and foxnews haven't died?
2005.09.02 [13:43] jnagro: trizzo: where did you hear that?
2005.09.02 [13:44] Eimann: We need also a declarition which server is where located so that European User don'T connect to the .us server and .us user not to the european server
2005.09.02 [13:44] Starblazer: same here, have darwin installed
2005.09.02 [13:45] nouv: oh i just assumed they were already signed up with akamai :)
2005.09.02 [13:45] nouv: i mean if a small company like us is using akamai
2005.09.02 [13:46] nouv: heh
2005.09.02 [13:48] shanes: fyi, i have the volumes he really needs already gzipped up in the large volume
2005.09.02 [13:49] X15: Who needs akamai when we have all you guys?
2005.09.02 [13:49] nouv: i was thinking in the context of interdictor
2005.09.02 [13:50] nouv: are you with akamai?
2005.09.02 [13:50] X15: no
2005.09.02 [13:50] Eimann: I mailed akamai
2005.09.02 [13:51] theagent: I call VitalStream
2005.09.02 [13:51] MaxieZ: Well someone should make a nice asx file with all the feeds and serv that instead
2005.09.02 [13:51] Eimann: I'm in touch with them already, but it takes a while to get an ok
2005.09.02 [13:54] X15: That's what were doing maxoe
2005.09.02 [13:54] ratman2: guys, so we have a scanner feed I can relay that is up?
2005.09.02 [13:54] WeyrNet-James: Darwin installed
2005.09.02 [13:54] ratman2: do
2005.09.02 [13:54] MaxieZ: Then yeah who needs akamai
2005.09.02 [13:54] zotted: all of the traffic on the intercontinental links is going to break the intarweb
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2005.09.02 [13:56] *** Initial topic: Tech-related stuff to the interdictor. | One OC3 up. | IF YOU WANT TO MIRROR SETUP Darwin Streaming Server or WMS AND WAIT FOR A STREAM | NO STREAM MIRRORS YET | 100mbit+ please, video is big! | READ ME: (Link: http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt)http://exorsus.net/interdictor_tech_faq.txt
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2005.09.02 [13:56] nouv: i can get that wiki up too
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2005.09.02 [13:59] Eimann: And what we need from the streaming relays: the source ip - so we can handle access-control lists on the main-server so that is all time available with enough bandwidth
2005.09.02 [13:59] Yog-home: hrm.. wiki is down or just hammered ?
2005.09.02 [14:04] Yog-home: djbsquared: fix it
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2005.09.02 [14:04] jnagro: rsync east-boston.utopus.net::katrina
2005.09.02 [14:05] mathx: we are fixing wiki
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2005.09.02 [14:06] djbsquared: Yog-home: not my box :)
2005.09.02 [14:06] Yog-home: heh..i wonder what happened
2005.09.02 [14:07] Eimann: PhiRatE: thx
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2005.09.02 [14:18] Eimann: i'lll write down a short form to apply for a mirror.
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2005.09.02 [14:18] NACAlex: eimann
2005.09.02 [14:18] NACAlex: you have AIM?
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2005.09.02 [14:18] X15: Allright folks, were getting Internic to reset there stream, were gonna pipe it to 5 or less master servers and everone else will mirror them
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2005.09.02 [14:20] X15: Only the third level mirros will go in the ASX
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2005.09.02 [14:24] X15: So what i need right now is to know who has the MOST capacity to act as a a master
2005.09.02 [14:24] cfm: X15: Sounds good
2005.09.02 [14:24] djbsquared: they need to stream in a better format :P like qt
2005.09.02 [14:24] Eimann: NACAlex: eimann235
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