--- Log opened Thu Sep 01 01:13:46 2005 01:13 < Hitchcock> And how does food/fresh water == Nike's, jewelery, and TVs? 01:13 < DRLEGO> yeah... so where's the help? hehe 01:13 < Jay> The people in Phuket were probably more concerned about staying alive than getting a free tv 01:13 <@pink> It doesn't. 01:14 <@pink> But people are seriously fucked in the head 01:14 < Jay> Consumerism trumps all 01:14 < DarkVeng> hitch, it doesn't, but combine poverty with opportunity, and no consequences, and thats what you get 01:14 < Venge> LOTS of private convs going on off-scanner. 01:14 < phoo> jewelry makes more sense than tvs 01:14 <@pink> Do they even realize that the stuff they are taking will get nowhere? 01:14 < Honda-Mini> i guess if you're poor, tv, jewellery etc = barter stock for food water 01:14 < Burke> pink, they are all morons. 01:14 < DarkVeng> unles,, yknow, it does 01:14 < Ksosez> exactly 01:14 < Hitchcock> Dark, that's exactly what you had in Phuket (and other places), yet the looting was amost non-existant 01:14 < edible> what do you mean get nowhere? 01:14 <@pink> It's not much use unless they can find someone to buy it and that is not happening 01:14 < edible> they can probably take it back home 01:14 < ReggyNZ> Do you think they're gonna try and charge the looters afterwards? 01:14 < Burke> thay are all about to be parked in my yard. 01:14 <@pink> So, it's more of a reactionary thing 01:15 < phoo> well, and if you've lost your home and everything you ever had, jewelry seems like a good way to start a life elsewhere 01:15 < Burke> to go with the thousands we already have 01:15 <@pink> Reggy, probably 01:15 < luketabor> just finished reading the last post about the looters possibly setting buildings on fire. scary stuff. 01:15 < ReggyNZ> Like, on that pictures site they have one of a number plate of a car 01:15 < WebIrc-315> is there cell service in NO. is that why they are asking for numbers? 01:15 < yume_no_hikari> comppimp: good call masking the TNs. 01:15 < DarkVeng> the looting is too widespread to prosecute it all 01:15 * hfx_ben wonders what happened to #politics ... "keep things cool in here" 01:15 < BeanFriedPork> People have already set up scams on the internet. 01:15 <@pink> Not all, but like with the riots... They got who they could get 01:15 <@pink> I know someone who *still* has shit they got in the riots 01:15 < comppimp> im not masking them - only the cool people can see the numbers, rest only see #'s 01:15 < comppimp> :P 01:15 < comppimp> jk 01:15 < lilan> i think its pretty fair to say that New Orleans has a bit, and in some cases too much, of every type of person trapped in it right now. Yes there are looters, worse there are armed roving violent gangs, but there are also people helping each other 01:15 < DarkVeng> the folks who went on tv and gave full names, probably 01:15 <@pink> Not a friend though ;) 01:15 < DarkVeng> cops photographed looting, yes 01:15 < ReggyNZ> yea 01:15 < BeanFriedPork> SCAM WEBSITE: www.katrinahelp.com 01:15 < Ksosez> lilan exactly 01:16 < ReggyNZ> Plenty of good stuff happening as well I guess 01:16 < DRLEGO> lilan: yeah 01:16 <@Soms> math 01:16 <@pink> *TONS* of good stuff happening 01:16 <@Soms> reinvite 01:16 < ReggyNZ> Any hackers in here? try and DOS the scam sites 01:16 < BeanFriedPork> People preying on the misery of others like that is just disgusting. 01:16 < edible> shh ReggyNZ 01:16 <@Soms> ReggyNZ no asking for anyone to dos anyone 01:16 < gekitsuu> hey I think helping a company by retreiving their server and copying their data is a pretty good thing 01:16 <@hfx_ben> katrinahelp.com/ is sick 01:16 <@pink> I'm just trying to not focus all my attention on the looters 01:16 <@Soms> even though it is discusting 01:16 < Toast7234> Hey everyone... got a mirror of the scanner setup... can someone else test it? http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner 01:16 < Nox> Can an Op remove the original link from the topic, and put a mirror in its place. That way the original isn't inudated. 01:16 < phreeB> Reggy you give kiiws a bad name like that 01:16 <@hfx_ben> testing toast 01:16 < Toast7234> It should be able to handle 1000+ listeners 01:16 <@pink> Logan? 01:17 < ReggyNZ> lol, sorry. But I don't see whats wrong with bringing down the scam sites 01:17 < edible> no phreeB, he gives 13 year olds a bad name 01:17 <@hfx_ben> I think logan hit the sack 01:17 < dtj> thems gotta be 500 very stinky buses 01:17 < newnick> auckland is ofended peggy :-) 01:17 < ins0mnia> Reporting them and getting their behinds arrested would work better. :) 01:17 <@hfx_ben> Toast: audio here 01:17 <@doofoo> yea 1 min 01:17 < Jay> I'm more angry at people who setup scam sites to steal charity money than somebody who steals a pair of shoes 01:17 <@mayo> BeanFriedPork: if you got netcraft toolbar installed, mark it :) 01:17 < Burke> Toast, works 01:17 < BeanFriedPork> The website was mentioned in the Washington Post as a scam website. I did network solutions Whois search, and found it was some asshole using an alias in the small town of Yulee, Florida to register it. 01:17 < Toast7234> Ok, can one of the ops here add it to the topic? math/loganattwodd said to bug the ops to get it added once it was up 01:17 < phreeB> comppimp - you doin a *GREAT* job 01:17 < BeanFriedPork> His address was a P.O. Box though. 01:17 < BeanFriedPork> Netcraft? 01:17 < lilan> who thinks that the Us federal gov will accept international financial aid? 01:18 -!- loganattwood changed the topic of #interdictor to: official site: mgno.com or livejournal.com/interdictor | #scanner for transcribing | pix: http://sigmund.biz/kat | Cant answer questions on DirectNic at this time, sorry. 01:18 < ReggyNZ> Didn't Canada offer aid? 01:18 < WebIrc-315> Yulee is outside of Fernandina Beach, FLA 01:18 < DarkVeng> lilan, why not? 01:18 < newnick> agree comppip you must have the fastest fingers on the web 01:18 <@michaelloftis> soms is just a bit ahead of me :) 01:18 < BeanFriedPork> Germany offered aid, Russia offered aid, Canada offered rather substantial aid, etc. 01:18 <@Soms> hm? 01:18 < yume_no_hikari> that's odd, katrinahelp.com refreshed to a squatter "search" page after a bit 01:18 < BeanFriedPork> Bush has not taken up any offers. 01:18 < n6mod> DarkVeng: Ego 01:18 < BeanFriedPork> Hmmm 01:18 < lilan> yes, so did others. Here in Canada it was reported the US gov said they didnt need $$, but they did need train evac workers/docs/etc 01:19 < ReggyNZ> must be a big parking lot for 500 busses 01:19 < nullexe> using mIRC how do i connect to #interdictor and #scanner? 01:19 < DarkVeng> i dont know that we should go asking for it, but refusing it when offered is a bad idea 01:19 < yume_no_hikari> nullexe: you're in #interdictor now 01:19 <@pink> use irc.deadjournal.com 01:19 < Jay> I don't know if international money is needed, but certainly helicopters and medical supplies are needed 01:19 < newnick> bigger than britomart. Where in NZ you peggy? 01:19 < ins0mnia> nullexe: /join #scanner 01:19 <@mayo> BeanFriedPork: netcraft.com .. but i see they used their toolbar only for phishing stuff nowdays, so nevermind 01:19 -!- doofoo is now known as doofoo- 01:19 < lilan> that was reported monday evening-ish. I just wonder, and hope, it changes 01:19 <@pink> They're going to need cash, people 01:19 < Hitchcock> OT: Anyone know what happened to the PVP website? 01:19 <@pink> Lots and lots of cash 01:19 < ReggyNZ> Surely they'd be plenty of helicopters? 01:19 <@Soms> aye 01:19 < ReggyNZ> Park a carrier off the coast or something 01:20 <@pink> because there's not going to be some star studded concert fundraising shit 01:20 < edible> and wait for another storm to take that out ReggyNZ? =) 01:20 < DarkVeng> i mean just from an IR standpoint, refusing aid is a bad move, unless the offering nation is using it for leverage in soem way 01:20 < ins0mnia> pink: Actually, there is on Friday. I saw an ad for it already. 01:20 < Herschel> BET is doing a fundraising concert TV show 01:20 < edible> nothing is free darkveng 01:20 < ReggyNZ> Thats why we have weather satelites :P 01:20 < dtj> having a carrier around while platforms are untethered might be a bad idea 01:20 < phreeB> reggy - there is a helo landing ship off the coast 01:20 <@pink> Yes, but I don't really see any primetime action 01:20 < gekitsuu> since when has the Bush administration valued IR highly 01:20 < ReggyNZ> ahh ok 01:20 < n6mod> DarkVeng: You're right, but I don't think the Powers that Be give a shit. 01:20 <@pink> and they could not break their necks fast enough for several other disasters :/ 01:20 -!- mode/#interdictor [+v Nox] by Soms 01:20 < DarkVeng> edible, most countries would be paying us aid with our own money 01:20 < BeanFriedPork> The guy registered it under the name of "Demon Moon." A google search including the town of Yulee showed that he has registered another site called "bosco.us," which refreshes to several cybersquatter sites, all of them apparently registered by the same guy with the same address: P.0. Box 415 in Yulee, Florida 32041 (I think that's the zip code). 01:20 < ReggyNZ> yea, Someone asked for helicopters. Just saying... 01:21 < edible> ya and charging us interest on it 01:21 < ins0mnia> pink: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9146525/ 01:21 < Herschel> ok, really going to sleep now. catch you all in a while 01:21 < lilan> I honestly don't know how international aid is not going to be needed. at least not without driving the US economy deeper into resession and staggering debt. 01:21 < yume_no_hikari> Russia was offering manpower 01:21 <@hfx_ben> From my experience with Juan (force 4) the big deal is electricians / power crew ... they can't power up til every feed is clear. 01:21 < yume_no_hikari> the kind that in this case would probably be hard to bill 01:21 <@hfx_ben> Block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood ... painful slow. 01:21 <@loganattwood> hfx_ben, RGR THAT 01:21 <@michaelloftis> yup. 01:21 < ReggyNZ> Aid is overrated anyway - a fraction of the real money got to the Tsunami. What they need is rescue personal 01:21 < comppimp> if someone can understand radio garble better than me, take over whenever ;) 01:21 < lilan> Tho if they they still don;t accept it, fingers crossed that the int gov just donate the money directly to the american red cross for the hurricane relief fund 01:22 <@loganattwood> I didn't have power for a week because of some place up the road had poles at 90 degrees 01:22 <@michaelloftis> i havent' talked to my lil bro but i imagine he's there or on his way there soon. 01:22 <@hfx_ben> heh ... you remember. *shudder& 01:22 <@michaelloftis> he's a lineman heh. 01:22 <@pink> Anyone else wondering how I know Mike? 01:22 < newnick> do tell... 01:22 < dtj> hazmat people might be useful too 01:22 < ak_in_dk> sounds like what they need is command and control.... anyone seeing FEMA do more than talk to CNN? 01:22 <@hfx_ben> compimp: did you use EQ? turn bass down and treble up ... helps muchly 01:22 < gekitsuu> cousin? 01:22 <@pink> hah nope 01:22 < comppimp> ill try that, thanks 01:22 <@pink> Met Mike online in 98 01:22 <@pink> On a message board 01:22 <@hfx_ben> comms comms comms ... and water. 01:22 < phreeB> gay cyber? 01:23 < lilan> clearly right now, they need rescue personal. but in 4 months, a year when these towns want to rebuild 01:23 <@pink> haha I'ma chick, fucker 01:23 <@loganattwood> nice comma 01:23 < BeanFriedPork> Currently the estimate is that it'll be about a month or so before all the flood water is pumped out. 01:23 <@Soms> heh 01:23 < Padathir> zing 01:23 < ins0mnia> lol 01:23 < lordscoresby67> Yeah, there's going to be lots of hazmat issues. 01:23 < phoo> 6588700 01:23 * Soms cyb0rs pink 01:23 < Burke> Hmm 01:23 < phoo> 6587810 01:23 < lilan> fiance 01:23 <@hfx_ben> *whoot whoot* 01:23 < ReggyNZ> Hope they bust some balls with the police/local goverment round there - with the police C&C completely breaking down and everything 01:23 < DarkVeng> minor point, but its personell 01:23 < dtj> maybe morticians to handle the floating coffins that are likely around 01:23 < Hitchcock> The whole city is contaminated with sewage and worse 01:23 < WebIrc-663> any shootings? 01:24 <@hfx_ben> C3 ... *plunk* 01:24 < DarkVeng> heh, ya think? 01:24 < newnick> soldier at dome? 01:24 <@pink> Mike is/was planning on moving to Los Angeles in Dec... That was/is to be the first time we'd meet in person. 01:24 < lilan> oh wait, she is with him [remembers the blog now] 01:24 <@pink> Odd? 01:24 < Padathir> A soldier may have been shot at the superdome 01:24 < lilan> yes new 01:24 <@hfx_ben> I heard a rumour of firemen being shot at ... 01:24 < dtj> BeanFriedPork, i think they are high-balling it to later show a miracle 01:24 < lordscoresby67> Clean water's always a problem after a flood. 01:24 < phreeB> guess he'll be keener to move now 01:24 < phreeB> ? 01:24 < ak_in_dk> one of the benefits of 3rd world flood-prone places like bangladesh is that there aren't as many toxic chems to be spread, mostly disease. 01:24 < BeanFriedPork> No need for a mortician to handle floating coffins. Morticians perform autopsies on people. You get emergency personel to handle that sort of thing. 01:24 < lilan> a soldier was shot at the dome, in the leg. but he is ok 01:24 < BeanFriedPork> You get an undertaker to handle whole coffins 01:24 < Burke> Hmmm 01:24 < Burke> Looks like I just took a hit 01:25 < yume_no_hikari> lilan: did we confirm that? 01:25 < Toast7234> Can someone who is an op in #scanner add http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner to the topic? 01:25 <@hfx_ben> ak: med folk say chems wey diluted; disease major prob ... and mosquitos 01:25 < Toast7234> 1000 connections 997 free. :) 01:25 < edible> they also bury people above ground down there, don't they? 01:25 <@pink> I'm going to miss NOLA :/ 01:25 < phreeB> me too 01:25 < Hitchcock> Yume. That was what was broadcast 01:25 < dtj> BeanFriedPork, lots of those will probably need to be re-interred 01:25 < BeanFriedPork> It's not "chemicals" per se so much as raw sewage. And snakes, gators, floating balls of fire ants, and there were even reports of sharks. 01:25 < yume_no_hikari> kk, I missed that. Cross chatter for a bit there made it sound like maybe he'd died. 01:25 < lilan> is there much point in bothering with coffins when there are dead bodies floating/buried/etc 01:26 < ins0mnia> The Swedish media were really playing up the shark reports. Made it sound like packs of sharks were all over the city. 01:26 <@hellion0> 3:24am, powernapping. Client will remain online as long as possible. Back in a couple of hours, I hope. 01:26 < msheets> how do you figure out um... who is in the coffin anyhow? to figure out where it goes 01:26 < ak_in_dk> animals are one thing, you know when they kill you. 5-10-15 yrs from now people will be dealing with the chem exposure.... 01:26 < BeanFriedPork> Well, the coffins are on relatively easy-to-reach Missippi beaches 01:26 < n6mod> floating balls of fire ants. And I thought we had weird shit out in CA. 01:26 < WebIrc-663> so what's the status of the soldier? 01:26 -!- hfx_ben changed the topic of #interdictor to: official site: mgno.com or livejournal.com/interdictor | #scanner for transcript/URLs | pix: http://sigmund.biz/kat | Cant answer questions on DirectNic at this time, sorry. 01:26 < edible> check cnn 01:27 < BeanFriedPork> ak_in_dk: it's not like they're really dealing with toxic waste or mercury exposure. 01:27 < Hitchcock> 663 -> No news 01:27 < ak_in_dk> just like people in NYC after 911, dealing with lung conditions from particles after the EPA said "don't worry! breathe lots!" 01:27 < edible> they haven't updated their site in like 12 hours it looks like 01:27 < dtj> ins0mnia, its a by-product of "Spring Break Shark Attack" 01:27 < lilan> I know one thing after seeing this...when I kick off, i'm insisting my loved ones put a brass tag on my coffin detailing who i am and where i was buried 01:27 < phoo> trying to move these buses out of the parkinglot 01:27 < BeanFriedPork> And its not like there's anything particularly harmful about the air, other than the damn disease carrying mosquitos. 01:27 < dtj> lilan, there are currently standards in that regard 01:27 < lilan> does anyone have a link to a satellite photo of new orleans after the flooding? 01:27 < ins0mnia> dtj: hehe, prolly. :) 01:28 < lilan> i keep expecting cnn to show one 01:28 < phoo> we've got 500 buses that we're trying to get out of the parkinglot onto the shoulder until we move them out, so we can use some help out here .. 01:28 < lilan> are there? dtj, i have to say that is comforting to know 01:28 < Padathir> I dbout there's been time for a surveyf 01:28 < Venture> Lilan, there is one on the livejournal Neworleans community 01:28 < lilan> for the future at least 01:28 < BeanFriedPork> Typhoid, cholera, chlamydia (not the std form), etc., those are all potential problems. 01:28 <@michaelloftis> alright i'm going to catch a few hrs of shuteye.... 01:28 * ins0mnia suddenly realises how nickcomp is useless in here, takes too long. :) 01:28 < lilan> thanks ven 01:28 < dtj> lilan, there are little sealed testtube thingies that they screw into coffins now 01:28 < ReggyNZ> One of the commercial satelite companies will surely take a few pics 01:28 < newnick> earth.gogle expect 5passes soon (via boingboing.net) 01:28 < ak_in_dk> in nyc the issue was air quality/toxicity, in Nola it's coing to be the chemical cocktail you get when you swirl civilisation through a swamp and industry 01:29 < dtj> lilan, i asked the funeral director at my grandfathers funeral about the funny little extra knob 01:29 < ak_in_dk> boingboing.net has lots of links to sat flyover, NOAA and NASA 01:29 < phreeB> some of the pics you can see a slick floating in the floodwaters 01:29 < enotsola> apparently google earth has been updated with satellite images of new orleans post katrina 01:29 < newnick> see http://www.digitalglobe.com/katrina_info.html 01:29 < BeanFriedPork> Raw sewage = mostly feces. That's disgusting and will give you an infection or a disease like cholera. It is not something that'll particularly give you cancer though. 01:29 < ak_in_dk> I used to work for CISPRI, which was in charge of spill containment cleanup in Alaska 01:29 < dtj> lilan, he unscrewed it and showed me that it has a little rolled up piece of paper sealed in it 01:30 < WebIrc-315> http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/new-orleans-imagery.htm 01:30 <@hfx_ben> nullexe: data in your chat window 01:30 < BeanFriedPork> Well, motor oil might be a problem 01:30 < ak_in_dk> If you can't get to that stuff in the 1st few hours, it's mostly just cosmetic 01:30 < WebIrc-315> Global Security.com has them now... 01:30 < BeanFriedPork> Gas stations underwater, puncturing and leaking into the ocean then. 01:30 < WebIrc-315> make that .org 01:30 <@hfx_ben> k8to 5/5 01:30 < lordscoresby67> Huh, I'm guessing the interview I had scheduled in New Orleans will have to be rescheduled. 01:31 < Hitchcock> Fox News is showing repeats 01:31 < BeanFriedPork> You got a job offer there? 01:31 < Venge> How are they intending to pump the water out when all their pumps have their outlets in the lake? 01:31 < dtj> lordscoresby67, on the upside, housing has become more affordable 01:31 < newnick> fox. News. Oxymoron. 01:31 < BeanFriedPork> I'd guess that's off the tables now, unless its as an undertaker 01:31 < ReggyNZ> Wow 01:31 < lilan> If its anything like the tragedies in Africa, diarrhea is going to be a huge health concern and killer 01:31 < Venge> Up till roughly Monday, people thought the big risk was the Mississippi. :) 01:31 < Padathir> They have to close the levees 01:31 < Padathir> then they can start pumping 01:31 < lordscoresby67> No offer yet, just an interview. I imagine the job has gone the way of all flesh. 01:31 < ReggyNZ> Superbowls gonna need a new roof 01:32 < ReggyNZ> gah 01:32 < ReggyNZ> superdome* 01:32 < WebIrc-315> http://earth.google.com/images/kat.jpg 01:32 < BeanFriedPork> Diarrhea is a symptom, not a disease in of itself. Tuberculosis, cholera, West Nile virus, maybe even malaria, 01:32 < lordscoresby67> Yes, I imagine there are a lot more cozy fixer-uppers, priced to move. 01:32 < Garthnak> So is this true that MDK was mentioned on CNN? 01:33 < dtj> amoebic dysenterry (sp?) 01:33 < Toast7234> anyone here have any desire to start filling in pages on the wiki? 01:33 < Tanna> MDK? 01:33 < BeanFriedPork> The superdome got off lucky. It probably will be repairable after all of this. 01:33 < Aikau> what needs to be filled in? 01:33 * Venge volunteers to not clean out the Superdome toilets 01:33 < lilan> fair point bean 01:33 < dtj> BeanFriedPork, it'll need a little detailing inside tho 01:33 < Toast7234> i dunno, whatever anyone wants to put in it. There was a call for someone to create a wiki for content here 01:33 < BeanFriedPork> certainly 01:33 < Blacklite> did comppimp pass out? 01:34 < Padathir> they're not saying much right now 01:34 < Tanna> Mostly just number strings 01:34 < Blacklite> I'm sure I heard things that weren't transcribed 01:34 < Blacklite> yeah 01:34 <@hfx_ben> Anybody with ham radio operator's licence or friends please msg me. 01:34 < Ksosez> probably all hunkreed down 01:34 < BeanFriedPork> I mean, the reports that now looters have turned to starting fires and shit, that's completely fucked up. 01:34 < winnie> I think comppimp is gone... missed the last few transmissions 01:34 < Venge> Probably all in pvt phone calls. 01:34 <@michaelloftis> yeah uhm, anyone wanna step up to do transcribing mesg an op. 01:35 <@michaelloftis> but it is quiet still 01:35 < Toast7234> Well, if anyone wants to start adding notes/pages whatever... http://wiki.your.org - have at it 01:35 < Venge> There was a big burst about SWAT on open mics, then it went to mostly silent pretty quick. 01:35 < Padathir> i wonder how long my 26 gigs of remaining hd space will last saving this feed 01:35 < newnick> -silence at moment - 01:35 <@michaelloftis> thoguh comppimp i'm sure will need a break eventually heh 01:35 < newnick> I'm about a 4 second delay to New Zealand but will give it a go for a while 01:35 < Tanna> I would, but I can't understand half of what they're saying, and on such a slow connection, I'm probably missing things anyway 01:35 * ins0mnia 's fingers are too fat to transcribe if it starts getting hot. 01:35 < Burke> there we go 01:35 < winnie> Fires are just WRONG... why would you burn down places you might need in the next few weeks...?? 01:35 <@michaelloftis> heh i know of your.org, mostly because StileNET uses them for billing., 01:36 < newnick> cannot send to channel anyway 01:36 < dtj> winnie, ask the rodney king rioters 01:36 < Toast7234> uh oh, my fame preceeds me. :) 01:36 <@michaelloftis> newnick: heh you'll ahve to be voiced ;) 01:36 < Hitchcock> On the news this afternoon there was reports of people going around and flipping over boats 01:36 <@hfx_ben> Toast: I've got a slab of resources in HTML at http://hfx-ben.livejournal.com/587881.html ... but left hand is casted so will not retype 01:36 < Hitchcock> Also on this web page, there was reports of people shooting at the firefighters. 01:36 < winnie> dtj: they were stoopid too... why trash your own neighborhood...?!?!?! Makes no sense to me.... 01:36 < ak_in_dk> link to CDC page on hurricane recovery and diseases: http://www.bt.cdc.gov/disasters/hurricanes/index.asp 01:37 < ins0mnia> Hell, people were shooting at the rescue copters. 01:37 < ak_in_dk> just because you live there doesn't mean you feel like it's yours 01:37 < dtj> LA and MS have literacy rates 15-20% lower than Thailand and Malaysia 01:37 < BeanFriedPork> looting to get food, water, soap, toilet paper, or even new shoes, that's one thing. I can understand that. Setting fire to shit and shooting at rescue workers is fucking terrorism though. 01:37 < lilan> here is anothe opinion ? for you all. Did anyone else CNN was making way too big a deal over the fact that Bush cancelled the last two days of his vacation to deal with Katrina's affects? I mean what else was he going to do? go golf? honestly 01:37 < winnie> somebody needs to nudge comppimp... the last batch of transmissions were missed too 01:37 < BeanFriedPork> At least I can take solace in the fact that the thugs shooting at people will eventually run out of bullets. 01:37 < ak_in_dk> most of the poor black community is getting to see straight up just how much energy the feds are willing to expend to help them 01:38 < ins0mnia> hah, yeah, poor guy had to cancel a day of his vacation. My heart bled. 01:38 < Padathir> if he didn't cancel it, people would be roasting him for staying on vacation, so what do you want? 01:38 < dtj> thats the funny thing about his vacation 01:38 < Blacklite> Soms: you'll be putting it in-topic whenever you have archive mp3s, yeah? 01:38 < enotsola> but, he was gonna make it to one full year of vacation in under 5 years! 01:38 < phreeB> I want the politics to go to another # 01:38 < phreeB> is what I want 01:38 < ak_in_dk> oh come on, he cancelled his vacation from his VACATION. the guy's a tool. 01:38 <@Soms> Yes 01:38 < Far_Side> goodnight all 01:38 < Blacklite> k, cool. 01:38 <@Soms> I'll archive them every 4 hours 01:38 < WebIrc-663> vacation or not...like he really does anything. 01:38 < dtj> its not like it truly a vacation 01:39 < newnick> -silence- 01:39 < BeanFriedPork> It's bullshit that they haven't sent in 10,000 national guardsmen in right now. The hurricane happened nearly three days ago already. 01:39 < Hitchcock> Wow, total fark just posted a link to a scanner mirror 01:39 <@michaelloftis> transcribing only in #scanner 01:39 < dtj> he's as effective there as in washington 01:39 < ReggyNZ> Yea 01:39 < winnie> Soms: will you post the scanner archives on LJ? 01:39 < Toast7234> ok, last chance before we move ahead with no idea what we're doing... If anyone would really like a shot at starting to add content to a fully functional wiki - I'll hand you the keys 01:39 < Hitchcock> http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner 01:39 < ReggyNZ> There is supposed to be 21,000 NG in the area 01:39 < DFG> Hi all 01:39 <@Soms> and then tomorrow or something I'll clean out radio silence and organize them 01:39 < Burke> Um a) where is our geek located, and where is our scanner located? 01:39 < ak_in_dk> 30 % of LA natl guard are ion iraq, similar or higher elsewhere 01:39 <@Soms> Yes winnie 01:39 < dtj> BeanFriedPork, national guard is called out by the governor, not the president 01:39 < ak_in_dk> we don't even have enough troops to deal with wildfires, let alone rescue a huge city 01:40 < Hitchcock> It takes time to call up the guard (remember, they're only part time), equip them, organize them, and deploy them 01:40 <@Soms> troops dont deal with wildfires 01:40 <@hfx_ben> K ... back in 2 hours 01:40 <@Soms> the national park service does 01:40 < enotsola> anyway... I'll repeat the http://www.wilwheaton.net link to the pokerstars katrina charity tournament.. and now I'm off to bed. Gonna continue to log the scanner channel 01:40 < dtj> Hitchcock, especially when the logistical support is otherwise occupied 01:40 < dtj> Soms, they get called out in some states 01:40 < BeanFriedPork> It's a working vacation, but he is NOT as effective on a ranch as he is in Washington where congress is and the federal government and his cabinet is, not to mention the fact that White House itself functions as an office building to aide the President in addition to being his residence. 01:41 < msheets> other issue being... the NG has to sleep sometime, ie: you need some sort of base station setup for them to operate from, you can't just wildly send in thousands of more people with no resources 01:41 < lilan> I just thought it was absurd for CNN to keep saying he cancelled his last two days. Nothing on Bush one side or another. 01:41 < ak_in_dk> re natl guard and fires: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/06/05/montana_in_a_tug_of_war_for_guardsmen/ 01:41 <@Soms> dtj for evacuation of homes and for C130B usage 01:41 < ak_in_dk> When summer wildfires burn out of control in the vast forests of the Rocky Mountains, the Montana National Guard has always been available to act as a fire force of last resort, sending its soldiers deep into the wilderness to help fire crews, protect evacuated property, and transport supplies to the front lines. 01:41 <@Soms> not really anything else the guard can do 01:41 < Padathir> Oh I see what you're saying, lilan. 01:41 < Hitchcock> Remember the Guard has to cover a huge area. NO is just a small section of the devestation 01:41 < phreeB> montana is some distance from NOLA 01:41 < Padathir> But they only have just so much to talk about :) 01:41 < BeanFriedPork> Furthermore, what the hell? Bush takes a 30 day vacation? The average American gets two weeks a year of vacation time. You'd think the guy who is supposed to lead us would at least be a hard worker. 01:42 < ak_in_dk> they do similar things all over. they are there to deal with disasters. the flavour of disaster varies as you move around the country 01:42 <@doofoo-> No politics please 01:42 < BeanFriedPork> sorry 01:42 < dtj> hard for the NG also because the rules of engagement are, um, *interesting* at this point 01:42 < BeanFriedPork> I should know better, sorry 01:42 < Hitchcock> Bean - All presidents take a truck load of vacations. 01:42 < BeanFriedPork> No 01:42 <@doofoo-> ;) 01:42 < ReggyNZ> Being a president wouldn't be easy though 01:42 < DFG> pardon me, re the conversation about wild fires, is this just a random topic shift or has some other disaster happend 01:42 < winnie> is the web cam dark, or is my laptop overloaded..? 01:42 -!- mode/#interdictor [+o doofoo] by doofoo- 01:42 < hylix> it's dark here too 01:42 <@michaelloftis> i happen to live in Montana, Missoula specifically, and the MNG's help is invaluable during fire season. 01:42 < ak_in_dk> no, related to the role of natl guard, what they handle, what they should handle 01:42 < phreeB> La blew next door to montana, apparently 01:43 < winnie> earlier today, the webcam kept dropping out after a minute or two... does everyone have that issue? 01:43 < ak_in_dk> it's a sign of how close to the limit the national guard are stretched that there hasn't been a larger, more immediate response 01:44 <@pink> Show me the way to go home 01:44 < ak_in_dk> there are governors all over the country starting to feel very put upon when they have to plan for ealing with large scale disaster relief with a fraction of the manpower they should have on hand. 01:44 < CharlesFisherma> sounds like a good excuse to start the draft back up 01:44 <@pink> I'm tired and I wanna go to bed... 01:44 < phreeB> yes, everyone was geared up to rescue people, the extent of the looting/ terrorism was unexpected 01:44 < winnie> I'm with you, pink! 01:44 < ak_in_dk> terrorism is political. what you're seeing is just human nature unfortunately. 01:44 < dtj> phreeB, apparently we didn't learn anything from the fall of iraq 01:44 < DFG> i wish i could sleep 01:44 <@pink> Looting is not terrorism 01:44 < BeanFriedPork> well, at least we'll be beetter prepared in the future, if there's a silver lining... 01:45 < nullexe> perscribes sleep for pink 01:45 <@mayo> oh damn .. have to be at work in 6hrs 01:45 < CharlesFisherma> read the patriot act pink 01:45 < phreeB> terrorism was mike's word 01:45 < InsomniaCity> Does anyone know what port the cam is currently on? 01:45 <@pink> lighting a building on fire with people in it, sure, maybe 01:45 < Hitchcock> Pink I agree. The word terrorism gets thrown around way too much these days 01:45 < phreeB> he's there 01:45 <@pink> Patriot act is retarded 01:45 < DFG> terrorism is the use of terror as a weapon, it's an intimidation tactic 01:45 < ak_in_dk> don't confuse desperation with what is essentially Lord of the Flies scenario 01:45 < CharlesFisherma> patriot act is law :-/ 01:45 < dtj> i'm thinking more "darwinian police action" 01:46 < Hitchcock> 810 is in the Petco parking lot 01:46 < Burke> hehe 01:46 <@pink> Patriot act is unconsitutional 01:46 < ak_in_dk> natural selection for the cops or by the cops? 01:46 < Burke> Darwin in Nola 01:46 < BeanFriedPork> Looting isn't terrorism. Arson and shooting at people kind of qualifies though. Not that the reports of arson have really been confirmed. 01:46 <@pink> but spelled correctly 01:46 < ins0mnia> heheheh 01:46 <@pink> I'm a libertarian, so,like... this conversation is going to be like, typical of that 01:46 < Toast7234> http://wiki.your.org I've added some links and info - anyone else want to please add some before I go? :) 01:46 < dtj> ak_in_dk, a sudden evolutionary shift 01:46 < CharlesFisherma> I'm not defending it 01:46 < WebIrc-315> where are these people staging? 01:47 < phreeB> well - para three of the last blog post is what I use as my reference for terrorism 01:47 < loranx> whatever happened to terrorism inherently requiring premeditation and a cause? 01:47 < CharlesFisherma> with the PA, j-walking is terrorism 01:47 < phreeB> when I hear otherwise from someone on the scene, i'll let you know 01:47 < comppimp> @#%&*@&@(%*& 01:47 < k8to> term terroist is misused in post sure, but it's clearly meant as an epithet 01:47 < comppimp> sorry about that guys - comcast crapped out again 01:47 <@pink> I am amused that most ofMike's journal is being ignored or can'tbe seen 01:47 < comppimp> detached me 01:47 < k8to> you could substitute "fuckers" if it makes you feel better 01:47 < ak_in_dk> you're confusing actual terrorism with "Terr'ism" the modern equivalent of "Comm'nism" or "Those Bad People We Would Like To Kill" 01:48 < ins0mnia> lol 01:48 < phreeB> so now i'm not allowed to use it as an epithet, without the grammar nazis gettin at me? 01:48 < ins0mnia> damn terrists. 01:48 < comppimp> is anyone transcripting? 01:48 <@loganattwood> in #scanner 01:48 <@michaelloftis> k8to: hmmm...be careful speaking for those who aren't here. ;) 01:48 <@pink> Democrats = Pinkos 01:48 < lilan> evil doers! 01:48 <@michaelloftis> comppimp blacklite has kidna started to try to 01:48 <@pink> pink = hot 01:48 < Hitchcock> #scanner has no updates in a long time 01:48 <@pink> (not really) 01:48 < Burke> compip,, not much going on to transcript 01:48 < lilan> sorry soundbite flash backs 01:48 <@loganattwood> the scanner is quiet 01:48 < Garthnak> lilan: It's an accurate term for people doing evil... 01:48 < Hitchcock> b4 to b7 01:48 < k8to> michaelloftis: okay maybe it's meant precisely. I am doubting it. Since the precise term doesn't apply. 01:48 < Hitchcock> go ahead 01:48 <@michaelloftis> Hitchcock: blacklite just picked up heh. 01:48 < comppimp> alrighty 01:48 < Hitchcock> call me on 86 again 01:49 < Hitchcock> garbled 01:49 < k8to> arguing over it seems somewhat aside of the issue at hand, however. 01:49 < Garthnak> I'd argue those looters are doing a holy hell of a lot of evil, at least from the reports. 01:49 <@michaelloftis> k8to: yeah it's true, guy is under stress and probably isn't choosing his words the best ;) 01:49 <@pink> Terrorism is not political or evil by nature 01:49 <@pink> it's a tool 01:49 < ak_in_dk> gotta work, will check in w youse guys later on.... good luck and mind the sharks ;) 01:49 < DRLEGO> instincts take over 01:49 < InsomniaCity> Does anyone know what port the cam is currently on? 01:49 < Blacklite> whatever 'want to try to pc me' means it sounds bad 01:49 <@pink> people are evil or plotical 01:49 <@pink> political 01:49 < lilan> yeh but its such a 1st grader catch phrase. jmo tho 01:49 < Hitchcock> pc = private call 01:49 < k8to> pink: i can hardly see how terrorism can exist apart from political issues 01:49 < phreeB> the terrorists are fuckers and the fuckers are terrorist? 01:49 <@pink> Well... 01:50 < dtj> like the mayor of biloxi saying that its "their tsunami" 01:50 <@pink> Ever heard of Terroristic Canibilism? 01:50 < ins0mnia> InsomniaCity: cam's off atm, iirc. or dark for privacy? 01:50 < WebIrc-315> where are the buses parked? 01:50 <@pink> (ignore my dyslexic spelling, I'm tired) 01:50 < Garthnak> lilan: I've never heard a first-grader say "evil doer". I mostly hear it from preachers and politicians. 01:50 < k8to> pink: i think if you look at the term 'political' from another angle, you'll find it covers all the situations 01:50 < Garthnak> Not that there's THAT much difference between a first grader and politician...politicians are usually a little more jaded, though. 01:50 <@pink> Sure 01:50 < k8to> guh 01:50 < frostbotond> sup guys 01:51 <@hfx_ben> pink: you really gotta get onto LiveJournal ... check out my buddy http://jk_fabiani.livejournal.com/ ... I'm hfx_ben there. 01:51 <@hfx_ben> Nite all 01:51 < k8to> why am I getting drawn into arguing over words 01:51 <@pink> I'm "pinkish" on LJ 01:51 < k8to> apologies for contributing to noise 01:51 <@pink> I am old skool 01:51 < Garthnak> k8to: Symantic arguments are the most useful kinds of arguments. 01:51 < DFG> best of luck all 01:51 < InsomniaCity> ins0mnia: fair enough 01:51 <@hfx_ben> ahh, I asked ... guess you didn't see 01:51 <@pink> hehe insomnia 01:51 <@hfx_ben> later 01:51 < dtj> "evil doer" probably gets used in red states quite a bit 01:51 < k8to> Garthnak: ... 01:51 < Hitchcock> Garthnak, and by most I assume you mean "least" 01:51 < lilan> touche Garthnak :) but you have to admit its such a "frenzy stirring" term. 01:51 <@pink> Mark/Insomnia is olderskool 01:52 < Garthnak> Hitchcock: Of course. 01:52 <@pink> I'm purple 01:52 <@pink> I think both sides are stupid 01:52 < frostbotond> anyone in the building? 01:52 <@pink> stewwwwpit 01:52 * ins0mnia is female, not a Mark. :) 01:52 <@pink> nono, the LJ user "insomnia" 01:52 < ins0mnia> oh. heh 01:52 <@pink> this link has a quoteby him 01:52 < Garthnak> lilan: *shrug* Sure. It's rhetorical. But so is calling a term a "1st grader catch phrase" ;) 01:53 <@pink> Insomnia (the LJ one) used to work for LJ 01:53 < frostbotond> i mean anyone in new orleans or are they all sleeping 01:53 < ins0mnia> oh, yeah, see him on mefi. 01:53 < lilan> too true garthnak...but at least I picked a new term :) 01:53 < Garthnak> Everybody exagerrates for political gain, and every side makes fun of the other side for doing it. I just find it amusing that neither side notices when they do it themselves. 01:53 < captive> does anyone know of any streams playing the NOPD radio? 01:54 < Blacklite> see #scanner 01:54 <@pink> My butt is numb 01:54 < Toast7234> http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner 01:54 < lilan> check the topic in this chat cap 01:54 < dtj> Garthnak, cuz they aint that bright 01:54 -!- mode/#interdictor [+v Blacklite] by Soms 01:54 <@pink> I hope someone is logging this 01:54 <@pink> because it'll be cute tomorrow when I realize what a dork I can be 01:54 < k8to> one thing this horror has done is caused me to get off my ass and procure water / food supplies for earthquakes out here 01:54 < InsomniaCity> hold on... we can listen to the NOPD radio?? 01:54 <+Blacklite> yeah it's pretty disturbing 01:54 < InsomniaCity> is that legal? 01:55 < BeanFriedPork> no shame in being a dork under duress 01:55 <+Blacklite> yes, Insomnia. 01:55 <+Blacklite> scanners are totally legal 01:55 -!- ins0mnia is now known as cavortingmonkey 01:55 < phreeB> Insomnia: unless there's a law against it 01:55 < BeanFriedPork> ins0mn1a rewlz!!!!!111oneone 01:55 < Garthnak> You're just not allowed to broadcast, or decrypt transmissions. 01:55 < cavortingmonkey> Too many non-sleeping people... getting confused. 01:55 < Garthnak> Otherwise, listening is legal. 01:55 < cavortingmonkey> :D 01:55 < cavortingmonkey> Besides, I'm not that leet. :P 01:56 < BeanFriedPork> dude, you mispelled 1337 01:56 <@pink> haha 01:56 < Garthnak> The no-decryption rule is brain-dead, of course, but hey...the gov doesn't have to make sense. 01:56 < cavortingmonkey> I told ya. ;) 01:56 < Hitchcock> Time for bed 01:56 < Hitchcock> Good night all 01:56 <+Blacklite> you can't decrypt anything anymore, DMCA 01:56 < joef3> is the scanner dead right now? I'm getting dead air. I'd ask in #scanner but i'm muted 01:56 <+Blacklite> yeah, it's dead, joef 01:56 < Burke> dead for me 01:56 -!- mode/#interdictor [+v Toast7234] by michaelloftis 01:56 < Hitchcock> <- Dead air here 01:56 < newnick> Hitchcock: Night bro 01:56 < nullexe> dead 01:56 < Burke> been getting lighter and lighter 01:57 < joef3> Thanks 01:57 < Burke> I'm about to call it a night after I pop this one last blog entryt 01:57 < phreeB> that's why you're muted in #scanner 01:57 < winnie> silent.. I have background tone on the scanner, but no chatter 01:57 < MattW> is it usual for it to go that quiet? 01:57 <@michaelloftis> uhm...no...ish... 01:57 <@Amish_Hooker> scanner is quiet 01:57 < newnick> what is the time in Louisiana now? It's 20.57 here... 01:57 <@michaelloftis> you gotta remember 50%+ of the force is like gone. 01:57 < Aikau> 4am. 01:57 * yume_no_hikari doesn't even have background tone, but he's got low and high bands more or less completely squelched 01:58 <+Blacklite> 0357 NO time 01:58 < newnick> Cha 01:58 < winnie> they are doing alot of car to car and phone communications... 01:58 < winnie> must sleep... g'nite... 01:58 < nullexe> getting some static, but not talking 01:58 <+Blacklite> I was trying to figure out what to squelch, yume, what bands do you have down? 01:58 < newnick> roger that 01:58 -!- michaelloftis changed the topic of #interdictor to: official site: mgno.com or livejournal.com/interdictor | #scanner for transcript/URLs | pix: http://sigmund.biz/kat | Cant answer questions on DirectNic at this time, sorry. | http://wiki.your.org/ 01:58 <+Blacklite> it's hard to tell what I should do when they aren't talking 01:58 <@hfx_ben> nullexe: you been friended. ;-P 01:58 <+Blacklite> and when they're talking I'm typing. 01:59 < BeanFriedPork> how did that come about anyway? Was it Elite = Eleet = Leet = l33t = 1337 or something? 01:59 <@hfx_ben> <== gone thataway 01:59 < yume_no_hikari> and in spite of that I'm *still* getting about a half-second of bass hum when someone drops their thumb off the mic. 01:59 <@pink> Woot 01:59 < Aikau> heh 01:59 < BeanFriedPork> Did "Elite" ever actually mean anything? Like you were an elite hacker or something? 01:59 < newnick> I'm using iTunes with Vocal EQ and seems fine 01:59 < cavortingmonkey> yeah. 01:59 < Aikau> iTunes is doing a good job w/ it 02:00 < cavortingmonkey> wikipedia actually has a pretty informative/funny article on leet. :D 02:00 <@michaelloftis> i hate itunes because of the complete lack of status information heh :) 02:00 < burnout> it's Elite => Eleet = Leet = 31337 = 31340 = 3134Over the hill 02:00 < frostbotond> i heard something! 02:00 < frostbotond> on the scanner 02:00 < Aikau> not many options for mac users tho... 02:00 < yume_no_hikari> this is winamp on an AC97 connected to a big subwoofer. I was happier upstairs but I've got a roommate to chatter with down here. 02:00 < newnick> *grin* 02:00 <@pink> I like Woot. 02:00 < BeanFriedPork> And slowly, people discovered that spelling was irrelevant, and cast it off as a vestigial function of an obsolete world thatdid not understand theor h4x0ring ways. 02:00 <@pink> theorigin of 02:00 <@hfx_ben> Cheap speakers are best for voice 02:00 <@pink> I have a borked spacebar, sorry. 02:01 <@michaelloftis> dude sounds a little panicked heh. 02:01 <@hfx_ben> argghhhhh nite! 02:01 <@math> who's site is wiki.your.org 02:01 <+Toast7234> mine 02:01 * michaelloftis slaps duct tape onto hfx_ben, then duct tapes him to the chair and kicks him into the closet 02:01 <@michaelloftis> math: toast's.... 02:01 < burnout> heh if spelling is irrelevant, then that handwriting course they made us to in 6th grade is *really* irrelevent 02:01 <@hfx_ben> thanks, I needed that ;-P 02:01 <@math> sigh, toast is duplicating effort 02:01 * hfx_ben leaves 02:01 < newnick> http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?AERONET_Stennis (cauion, hi-res) 02:02 <@michaelloftis> if there's a better one that'd be great too... :/ 02:02 < BeanFriedPork> I want to turn off the lights and go to sleep so that I may have a semi-productive day tomorrow, and yet I cannot 02:02 <@michaelloftis> but so far all i have are blogs. 02:03 <@pink> See 02:03 <@pink> Zombie 02:03 <+Blacklite> this live transcribing thing is tricky. 02:03 <+Blacklite> i want caffiene. but it is over there. 02:03 <@michaelloftis> pink: miss, weren't you supposed to be going to bed? 02:03 < cvisors> Blacklite thanks for the transcribing btw 02:03 <+Blacklite> np 02:03 <@pink> I am in bed 02:03 <@pink> technically 02:03 * michaelloftis pokes douglas_carmich in the eye with a grubby finger. 02:04 <@michaelloftis> pink: LOL, but to sleep ;P not geek around some more with us gents. 02:04 <@michaelloftis> ...ok and i use the term gents loosely. 02:04 < solcita> heh. =) 02:05 < WebIrc-637> holy crap foxnews reporting police leaving the city 02:05 < Aikau> yeah? 02:05 < WebIrc-637> tell media to leave.... 02:05 <+Blacklite> not surprised, not much of them left 02:05 < Shandryl> BL, can't you get Fish to bring you caffeine? 02:05 <@loganattwood> i'm going to make some tea 02:05 <@loganattwood> brb 02:05 <@loganattwood> ANOTHER 3 liters 02:06 < k8to> as reported, police are in disarray. also they're not well trained for this situation 02:06 -!- mode/#interdictor [+o doofew] by doofoo- 02:06 <@michaelloftis> though...pink does have a good idea...this is a laptop after all. 02:06 * cavortingmonkey wonders when Snake Plissken is going to show up. 02:06 <@pink> I have a round bed 02:06 <@pink> I am not sure why I told y'all that 02:06 < k8to> media may not be essential to rescue but to the displaced and connected to the city, the reports are pretty important 02:07 <+Blacklite> yeah 02:07 < WebIrc-637> they have packed up. 02:07 <@michaelloftis> pink: :D cool, only ever seen those in hotels. 02:07 <+Blacklite> and it's good to see what this is like 02:07 < WebIrc-297> Man, reading the Interdictor's live journal site gives a perspective you aren't hearing in the MSM 02:07 <+Blacklite> you know, if a disaster happened somewhere else in the US, it's pretty clear you can't depend on FEMA too much 02:07 < k8to> true, that. 02:07 < Taste> or government 02:07 <+Blacklite> my feed's down. 02:07 <+Blacklite> back. 02:07 < WebIrc-637> i'd be afraid for them! 02:07 < k8to> err 02:07 < WebIrc-637> anyone in NO 02:08 < k8to> agreeing with: "gives a perspective you aren't seeing in MSM" 02:08 < BeanFriedPork> "information on some stranded people please" 02:08 < dtj> Blacklite, not true. many other places wouldn't be going batshit and making it harder to get help 02:08 < WebIrc-297> Sounds like the Interdictor and his group can handle it so far. Disturbing is the accounts of the police looting 02:08 < WebIrc-637> street level in some areas sounds like somalia 02:08 <+Blacklite> I dunno about that, dtj 02:08 < k8to> i'd like to have better information on how hamstrung the order effort is by national guard staffing etc, vs physical logistical issues 02:09 <+Blacklite> I think most places would go batshit 02:09 <+Blacklite> country's on the edge of batshit all the time now 02:09 < dtj> Blacklite, like the big power outage in the northeast? 02:09 < Bin_Shady> this might be useful http://www.mywikimap.com/ 02:09 < yume_no_hikari> I'm inclined to retract my comparison to mid-'03 Baghdad - afaict it's not that violent, yet. 02:09 <+Blacklite> hm, good point 02:09 < cavortingmonkey> You know, I was watching the karoke cam Sat night from the Cat's Meow, they were playing this all up... I just think if they knew then what we know now... it just breaks my heart. 02:09 <+Blacklite> but people were getting food 02:09 < dtj> Blacklite, big CA earthquakes 02:09 <+Blacklite> and everything wasn't broken, there 02:09 < Graylight> Why hasn't Bush sent in full military regiments? 02:09 < k8to> dtj: a power outage that's temporary is pretty different from a storm, a flood, communication cut off, lack of running water, etc. 02:09 < joef3> Can someone post the 10 codes link again please? 02:10 <+Blacklite> this would be equivalent to like a 8.5 earthquake 02:10 < ModusPwnens> every time something like this comes up I have to wonder why it's people like you guys having to report this instead of the whole group of people whose jobs it is 02:10 <@mayo> alright, i think that's it for me tonight. gota wake up early for work tomorrow 02:10 < hylix> I am using http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/polcodes.htm for police code 02:10 <+Blacklite> this is just everything combined. all infrastructre ripped out. 02:10 <@Amish_Hooker> http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm 02:10 -!- You're now known as mayo 02:10 < dtj> people didn't even go batshit at 9/11 02:10 < Graylight> Seems like military presence is sparse at best. 02:10 < itestel> 9/11 didn't last a week 02:10 < k8to> 9/11 didn't disrupt a whole city 02:10 < solcita> This is more widespread destruction than 9/11. 02:10 <+Blacklite> exactly 02:10 < k8to> it disrupted a few blocks. power remained on. food remained available 02:11 < WebIrc-297> Food and water, yes. TV's, clothes, and electronics? No, those aren't essentials. And the fact that NOPD is no longer a coherent force and it almost as bad as the looters is disturbing. No command and control 02:11 < Thoth> I have my preps ready . alt power crap load of weapons , crap load of stored food and watter . Life here would go on for 3 mounts befor we even noticed the world stoped 02:11 < dtj> but the population density is much higer 02:11 <@mayo> everyone be nice :) 02:11 < dtj> er, higher 02:11 < BeanFriedPork> The implications and ramifications of 9/11 were greater though. 02:11 < k8to> dtj: yes, and new york would be more screwed if it lost all water etc 02:11 < douglas_carmich> thoth>where are you? 02:11 < Thoth> california 02:11 < k8to> dtj: except for the lack fo floodwaters 02:11 < phoo> clothes are essential if all of yours are soaked with sewer water 02:11 <+Blacklite> I guess when you come right down to it I don't know why NO turned into this total anarchy 02:11 < WebIrc-297> phoo: OK, I stand corrected 02:11 < joef3> Thanks guys 02:11 <+Blacklite> I don't think it has anything to do with the area specifically though. 02:12 < newnick> Blacklite: Poverty? 02:12 <+Blacklite> I think it could happen anywhere 02:12 < Graylight> Blacklite - because there are no police or other authorities. 02:12 < solcita> Yeah, clothes I understand. 02:12 < lilan> As natural as it is to compare this to other disasters. This, as least from my prespective, it truly a event all on its own. Very very different from 9/11 & the tsunami 02:12 < ModusPwnens> if this is greater than 9/11 then when do we invade the caribbean 02:12 < Graylight> New York would descend into chaos if there was no law enforcement. 02:12 <+Blacklite> no no, I mean, I know what's happened now, but I don't know why it was NO. 02:12 < Taste> Looks like were gonna need to invade NO 02:12 < cavortingmonkey> heh, if Mother Nature's not with us, she's against us. 02:12 < dtj> my point is that those were very likely scenarios where people would go batshit, but didn't 02:12 < Shandryl> Minister McLellan was in contact with U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Monday and informed him that Canada stands ready to provide assistance if needed. Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada (PSEPC) is coordinating federal assistance efforts in the event that a formal request is made from the United States’ Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). No request for assistance has been received at this tim 02:12 < BeanFriedPork> N.O. turned into anarchy because people were desperate and starving, and the police became completely ineffective at the same time, and it escalated into the bullshit happening now 02:12 < joef3> Is anyone in here from Lousiana? 02:13 < dtj> however, the OJ verdict was a whole different thing 02:13 < k8to> dtj: the situations you have proposed are demonstratable highly dissimilar 02:13 < Khaz> hehe if we invaded NO.. at least there would be at least SOME structure and organization ;) 02:13 * joef3 is from Baton Rouge 02:13 < Thoth> every one should have food and water stored at all times 02:13 < ModusPwnens> the rest of the country isn't going to go crazy, but it really shows that the second our infrastructure breaks down people are ready and willing to abaondon all law 02:13 < k8to> usually mass disorder happens when both conventional law and order is suspended and massive catastrophic social or natural threats exist 02:13 < phreeB> my wife is from NOLA 02:13 < BeanFriedPork> unfortunately, yes, putting a military presence there is probably the best way to both restore order, and to assist (and evacuate) the people still there. 02:13 < cavortingmonkey> joef3: Must be nuts there 24/7 atm. 02:14 < Taste> The autority structure was weak in NO , Thats my opinion. 02:14 <+Blacklite> sounds like that's true too 02:14 < solcita> ModusPwnens: You also have to understand that these people are in shock. 02:14 < WebIrc-297> I was reading reports that looters were trying to gain access to Charity Hospital, some 100 Critical patients and staff were there 02:14 <+Blacklite> I wonder what's up with B12. 02:14 < Taste> after the blackout NY and Detroit put police on every corner 02:14 < Burke> Well. I'm out. I might be back up in a couple hours 02:14 < k8to> Taste: that's plausable 02:14 joef3> Its not that bad here in BR. Its a little crazy because people are being bussed from NO. A couple cars have been broken into, and the local walmart was just held up. 02:14 Taste> NO couldn't 02:14 +Blacklite> BR sounds like paradise comparatively 02:14 solcita> During other major events like this when there has been looting, when the looters were later shown video of what they did they broke down into hysterics, not believing that they could have done that. 02:14 joef3> I'd say 75% of gas stations are out of gas...but its till possible to get it. 02:15 newnick> Charity has no water :. no ability to run dialysis machines, not good 02:15 +Blacklite> that is pretty bizarre, solcita 02:15 solcita> It's a situation we can't even begin to imagine, sitting in our cozy little computer rooms with our laptops. 02:15 k8to> Taste: yes what with many of the street corners being underwater 02:15 +Blacklite> I thought Charity had been shut down 02:15 lilan> i think the one thing that seems to be common amongst 99.9% of disasters [natural or human] is that the people involved have access to no information 02:15 solcita* nods at Blacklite. 02:15 +Blacklite> so much misinformation 02:15 joef3> i'm more worried about what happens in a week when the New Orleans people get tired of being in the River Center and on LSU 02:15 Khaz> does anybody know whats going on at the hospitals in NO at all? 02:15 +Blacklite> absolutely, lilan 02:15 ModusPwne> Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say anything about the character of the people down there, you're right, we can't imagine it. But it is a comment on human nature. 02:15 WebIrc-29> Well, it could've been...I read that at 11:00am 31 August (yesterday) 02:15 phoo> i read that one hospital (charity?) had the generator stolen from out back and an ambulance tipped over 02:15 k8to> i'm worried about what happens if the people aren't evaced quickly enough 02:15 joef3> www.tigerdroppings.com....browse those forums...TONS of information 02:15 +Blacklite> I've heard so many conflicting reports that I have no real idea about the hospitals anymore 02:15 lilan> i think even a little bit of info would of helped keep NO from going as far over the line as it did 02:15 solcita> ModusPwnens: I agree. 02:15 @michaello> khaz: AFAIK they're all evac-ed 02:15 Thoth> I call New Orlines New Alantis 02:16 BeanFried> After the blackout, the streets were full of people just wandering about. No one's gonna start shit when crowds of people are just wandering back to their undamaged homes. If it'd still been like that in a few days, then looting would've started. 02:16 joef3> No they arent michaelloftis 02:16 Khaz> that worries me a little.. 02:16 phoo> the hospitals are operating at a first aid level with no water and no electricity. 02:16 phoo> and people are gravely concerned about being there after dark 02:16 joef3> A hospital in Gretna has recently requested emergency evac because a supply truck on the way was held up at gun point 02:16 BeanFried> I heard one of the airports has been converted to a hospital 02:16 dtj> ModusPwnens, not all places would react similarly 02:16 Khaz> with all the individuals unable to be moved from life support, the lack of authority, and all the problems there... i can see how the hospitals would be hit hard by looters 02:16 k8to> the "found bread" lady really worries me. it suggests the people still present are not aware of the floodwater risk of disease 02:16 +Blacklite> they are setting up MASH-like hospitals in the area 02:17 @michaello> joef3: then i stand corrected heh. thanks :) 02:17 WebIrc-29> Well, gotta run and head to work, prayers to all trapped in the area. 02:17 lilan> bean, yeh CNN was broadcasting out of it yesterday 02:17 BeanFried> hmmmm --- Log closed Thu Sep 01 02:17:20 2005 --- Log opened Thu Sep 01 02:17:20 2005 02:17 BeanFriedPork> well, that's probably a plus --- Log closed Thu Sep 01 02:17:24 2005 --- Log opened Thu Sep 01 02:17:24 2005 02:17 lilan> they referred to it as a field hospital 02:17 itestel> okay, i have an ethical question for you all... i have a friend who was stuck there, got out about 20 hours ago. he 'looted' ('commandeered' if it's police doing it) a bycicle in order to plot an escape route out of the city. after figuring out a route via a bike he risked the fuel in his truck (which he was authorized to use) to get out of doge. immoral? 02:17 Graylight> DirectNIC is my hero. Used to be my favorite registrar, now it's way more than that. 02:17 newnick> Isn't USS (?) Mercy en route? 02:17 BeanFriedPork> If they can land planes an' all 02:17 Shandryl> Is it true that a "commandeered" bus of refugees was turned away at the dome because it "wasn't expected'? 02:17 + Blacklite> sounds fine to be ite 02:17 + Blacklite> *me 02:17 Taste> did he put the bike back? 02:18 k8to> itestel: i don't understand worrying about such shades of morality until much later --- Log closed Thu Sep 01 02:18:03 2005 --- Log opened Thu Sep 01 02:18:03 2005 02:18 Garthnak> itestel: Is he willing to either return the bike or pay for it when he can? 02:18 BeanFriedPork> four naval ships en route. I imagine at least one os a hospital ship 02:18 + Blacklite> it's comandeering 10 DVD players that seems quite obviously pointless 02:18 newnick> USNS Comfort rather 02:18 lilan> I think those buses were eventually let in 02:18 + Blacklite> yes, newnick. 02:18 newnick> thx beanfriedpork 02:18 + Blacklite> USNS Comfort is a hospital ship, it was spotted leaving SF 02:18 + Blacklite> I think. 02:18 Shandryl> That's the one, BL 02:18 Khaz> i would say thats justifyable itestel.. he had a real use for it 02:18 Taste> Hey did anyone hear about a "rougue bus" showing up at the Astrodome? 02:18 BeanFriedPork> At this point, stealing electronics doesn't even seem like a big deal to more anymore. It's the shooting at people that's fucked up. 02:18 joef3> A couple of busses arrived at the Astro dome unexpected...but they took them in anyway 02:18 newnick> yeah I typed tht automaticaly as it's been doing tsunami relief and has had quite a high profile over this side of th world 02:18 Shandryl> That's the one I was wondering about, Taste 02:19 itestel> i'm sure he'd be willing. it's like being willing to pay for yoru life jacket after it saves yor life. 02:19 Garthnak> itestel: I think in a survival situation, taking a bike from an abandoned store to leave is understandable. But I think he has a moral obligation to compensate the proper owners later. 02:19 Khaz> now if he would of grabbed a 34inch plasma tv to "plot his escape" i'd call BS on that however lol 02:19 Graylight> itestel - taking transportation or food is not looting in my opinion. Survival is of utmost importance. I would say taking weaponry is also not looting. Taking any material item that is not directly related to your survival or health is still theft. 02:19 ModusPwnens> if I was in that situation and needing it and in panic, I wouldn't hesitate breaking into a place that had food or water or anything I needed to survive, especially if I had family or other people around. The bike would fit in to there really. 02:19 joef3> 1:06 A.M. - CNN: Officials are confirming that the second Orleans Parish school bus to arrive at Houston's Astrodome was another "renegade bus" and not from the Superdome. The Astrodome will take in refugees from all three buses. 02:19 itestel> garth: i doubt it was a store owner, more likely a neighbor or something. 02:19 k8to> BFP: I think the property rights lack of respect matters mainly in the sense that it contributes to a destructive mob mentality which is dangerous 02:19 joef3> 12:38 A.M. - CNN: Two more buses have arrived at Houston's Astrodome. One of the buses, an Sierra Trailways tour bus, has been confirmed by Harris County officials as part of the official caravan from the Superdome. Officials were not able to confirm the status of the other, an Orleans Parish School Bus. 02:19 ModusPwnens> It's the looting of say, TVs and such that really smacks of people taking advantage of a tragedy 02:19 Aikau> wtf is a renegade bus? 02:19 Taste> I heard at first they weren't letting them in. Guess they changed their minds 02:20 Taste> Someone comandeered the bus without "official" approval 02:20 joef3> THURSDAY 12:29 A.M. - CNN: A Harris County judge is now describing an Orleans Parish bus that arrived at Houston's Astrodome late Wednesday night as a "renegade" bus, CNN reports. Astrodome officials were not expecting a caravan of Greyhound buses carrying Superdome evacuees until Thursday 02:20 Garthnak> The thing is, at least according to what I've read, people aren't mostly just looting things for survival. They left a market full of food and took the liquor. 02:20 Khaz* agrees with moduspwnens 02:20 BeanFriedPork> I have no problem with people just looting for food and drinkable water. Nothing wring with that. 02:20 Khaz> imo.. if your taking something you have an honest need for at that moment, your justified 02:20 newnick> Insane, isn't it. I mean I could understand taking water and canned / dried gods but WTF? 02:20 k8to> Garthnak: it may be a stretch, but beer is safe water right now 02:21 ModusPwnens> Well I suppose if my house got swallowed up by water I could use a drink too :\ 02:21 Garthnak> BeanFriedPork: But that's not most of the looters. It's too early for people to be starving. 02:21 joef3> I'm pretty up to date right now on everything going on here if people have questions 02:21 BeanFriedPork> uh, no 02:21 Khaz> if your looting for personal gain.. then you need to be beat with whatever it is your taking 02:21 newnick> Khaz: Right on 02:21 Garthnak> They're stealing clothes, and DVD players, and stereo equipment. 02:21 itestel> well, to some extent, regardless of moral questionjs, people stealing electronics when their next meal or drink of clean water is not assured have fucked priorities, and are more stupid than immoral. 02:21 phoo> i recognize that people may need other things too... a radio, a clean dish, clean clothes. but taking TVs is just stupid.... i mean, you are homeless, where are you going to put the tv? even jewelry makes more sense... you can sell it in another city and rent and apartment. 02:21 solcita> Clothes are still a priority. 02:21 dtj> they simply don't know when they will get tennis shoes again, so they took 40 or 50 pairs to be safe 02:21 comppimp> too early for people to be starving? you try sitting on a roof top for 2 days in 90 degree weather with no food and water 02:21 k8to> I suspect the information we're receiving on what looters are taking where etc is not based on very much information. 02:21 pancho_cole> what about the folks stealing diapers 02:21 BeanFriedPork> Its too early for people to be dying of hunger. Its not to early for people to be hungry. 02:22 + Blacklite> thirst, though 02:22 pancho_cole: is now known as runcible_spoon 02:22 Garthnak> BeanFriedPork: I said it's too early for people to be starving. 02:22 Garthnak> Not hungry. 02:22 itestel> looters are not going to be evacuated from the city by the nation guard having as their sole possessions brand new, in the box 19" LCD screens. those folks are going to jail. 02:22 lilan> i wonder if some people planned to stay in the city so they could loot & pillage while home & business owners had evacuated. NO idea, but I've wondered 02:22 InsomniaCity> hmm...I'm majorly lagging behind on the scanner 02:22 Garthnak> There's a difference. 02:22 dtj> isn't LA ranked amongst the most obese states? 02:22 nullexe> death by dehydration in 72 hours...we all have to remember that 02:22 newnick> It's waqter I was thinking of in particular, 02:22 itestel> people will have to leave their loot behind. 02:22 solcita> InsomniaCity: the mirrors are about 30 seconds behind the main feed. 02:22 BeanFriedPork> I was pissed about people taking tvs and shit at first, but that was trumped by my anger at people actually mugging rescuers and shooting at emergency personel and possibly even burning down things. 02:22 BeanFriedPork> Stealing some Nikes seems trivial compared to that 02:22 InsomniaCity> solcita: which is the main one? 02:22 Garthnak> BeanFriedPork: There's plenty of things to be pissed about. 02:23 joef3> There's an unconfirmed rumor of shooting at rescue copters 02:23 k8to> itestel: i have seen people claim acquisition of property as barter insurance for survival, although I doubt this, considering what market there is going to be for electronics to trade for food 02:23 lilan> agreed bean 02:23 Garthnak> BeanFriedPork: That doesn't make stealing Nike's any better. 02:23 newnick> Were people actually shooting at helo's - that seems insane. Too many weapons in the wrong hands... 02:23 lilan> just layers of po'd-ness 02:23 solcita> I don't have the address at the moment, I'm on one of the mirrors myself. 02:23 phoo> i do not understand what would possess someone to shoot at rescue copters. 02:23 k8to> BFP: people shooting rescuers, lighting fires, is clearly some kind of .. uh.. how to say.. psychotic? behavior. Ie. they are acting insane. 02:23 k8to> BFP: not to excuse them 02:23 phoo> unless they think they are just randomly getting back at The Man 02:23 k8to> BFP: i'm just saying, their thinking is seriously fucked up 02:24 @ math> Thoth: new atlantis rox 02:24 joef3> I believe they were trying to get the copters attention..not shoot them down. Still stupid though. 02:24 BeanFriedPork> And shit, I'd be looting a grocery stores. I have no doubt that people are looting liquor and cigarettes, but you have no way of knowing for a fact what _most_ looters are doing. 02:24 nullexe> what i love is the reports of cops looting weapons and then abandoning their posts and going vigilate 02:24 k8to> phoo: i think they are hysterical/irrational 02:24 newnick> actually I can understand the need for cigarettes - LOL 02:24 BeanFriedPork> yeah 02:24 BeanFriedPork> I used to smoke. 02:24 newnick> Blacklite: You're really on to it man! 02:24 BeanFriedPork> In a disaster like this, I'd probably start again 02:24 + Blacklite> lol 02:24 + Blacklite> thanks guys 02:24 + Blacklite> I am missing things though. 02:25 newnick> What is the OET? 02:25 Mode: #interdictor[+o Blacklite] by Soms 02:25 @ pink> I AM BACK TO KICK SOME ASS 02:25 @ Blacklite> no idea newnick 02:25 Khaz> i'll be honest... if i were there i would be grabbing a few packs of smokes along with my batteries, food/water, and hygeine supplies 02:25 itestel> and what about 'the economics of disaster'. http://www.boingboing.net/2005/08/30/email_attributed_to_.html 02:25 @ pink> Who needs to be kicked? 02:25 nullexe> Blacklite: way to hang with it though...you're not missing very mcuh 02:25 Soms* hands pink the whip 02:25 douglas_carmich> pink>good to see you... 02:25 Burke> In a disaster like this I'd be holed up with some good buddies, alot of supplies, and alot of lead. 02:25 k8to> if i were there 02:25 k8to> i would be TRYING TO LEAVE 02:25 newnick> Mmmmmmmm kick me baby *grin* 02:25 @ Soms> feel free to spank me 02:25 @ pink> Sorry, who needs to be like, kicked in the head? 02:25 @ Soms> at anytime 02:25 nullexe> Pink: WB 02:25 itestel> 'mandatory evacuation' - if you have a vehicle. 02:25 newnick was kicked from #interdictor by Soms (Did you hear something? ·1·) 02:25 Khaz> the situation is to crazy.. and everyone is to much on edge to live with me and no cigarettes 02:25 InsomniaCity> so, is car to car encrypted then? 02:25 @ pink> haha 02:25 @ Blacklite> I have an application in to be an air traffic controller, this is great practice. 02:25 burnout> hmm 02:25 @ Soms> oh cool 02:26 solcita* grins at Blacklite. 02:26 burnout> well if i was pushed to it, the first thing i'd loot would be a firewarms store 02:26 InsomniaCity> blacklite; you want that stressful a job? 02:26 joef3> alright guys u'm going to bed...back tomorrow night (work) 02:26 @ Soms> He is getting a job as a New Orleans Center ATC 02:26 @ pink> firewarms, best typo ever 02:26 @ Blacklite> heh 02:26 joef3> in the meantime... www.tigerdroppings.com click on OT-Lounge for lots of local hurricane info 02:26 Garthnak> I'm sure everyone has told him by now that ATC's have the highest suicide rate of any profession. 02:26 @ michaelloftis> hahaha 12 to hq unit in front of the bus --- everyone is going 'were all in front of a fucking bus!' 02:26 solcita> InsomniaCity: I'd do it if I could, but can't afford the schooling. So I'm a police dispatcher instead. 02:26 itestel> if there was a 'mandatory evacuation' but X% of the population didn't have a vehicle - are they just supposed to die? 02:26 @ Soms> actually no they don't 02:26 @ Blacklite> yeah, I have heard all the stories 02:26 loranx> atc? 02:27 @ Blacklite> I'm also Canadian, and it seems like it'd be better there 02:27 @ Soms> Law Clerks do 02:27 solcita> Blacklite: Don't let 'em get to you. If you wanna do it, do it. 02:27 Garthnak> Air Traffic Controllers. 02:27 loranx> yeesh 02:27 loranx> that's tension 02:27 @ Blacklite> thanks, sol. :) 02:27 Mode: #interdictor[+o Nox] by Soms 02:27 solcita* understands. =) 02:27 Garthnak> So...is the vid feed down? Or are the lights just off? 02:27 @ Blacklite> most people either think 'omg, you're insane', or 'omg, that's great'. 02:27 @ Blacklite> not a lot of middle ground. 02:27 Aikau> lights off 02:27 BeanFriedPork> I'd be grabbing canned food, bottled water, medication (I'm a diabetic), instant hand sanitizer, some medical supplies, a lighter, a pack of Marlboro lights, a can opener, maybe some socks, and a back pack to carry all this, and whatever I needed for my cats, if they lived in N.O. with me. 02:27 Mode: #interdictor[+v douglas_carmich] by michaelloftis 02:27 solcita> Heh. =) 02:27 Khaz> i imagine the lights would be off.. need to conserve power to save on generators 02:27 k8to> itestel: i have two responses: 1) they had options, they could have walked. they could have gone to the superdome 02:27 @ pink> solcita,from LJ? 02:28 solcita> The same. 02:28 k8to> itestel: 2) no obviously, letting them die is awful 02:28 @ pink> Don't you do abuse, or did? 02:28 BeanFriedPork> oh, and some multivitamins. No sense in getting rickets or scurvy. 02:28 @ pink> I recognize the name 02:28 yume_no_hikari> BeanFriedPork: I'd get at least a carton, cigs'd be good barter material. 02:28 joshua> A national guard soldier was shot in the superdome around 145am 02:28 @ pink> But I'msleepy :/ 02:28 Khaz> grab all the citrus you can for scurvy 02:28 solcita> Blacklite: having worked a couple very hot calls this weekend... yeah, I understand. 02:28 @ Blacklite> heh 02:28 solcita> pink: yep. used to, haven't for a long time. 02:28 Garthnak> itestel: There had to be buses...SOME means of transportation. Not that I'm in the area, but. 02:28 solcita> Too busy. 02:28 Khaz> will provide vitamin c, a little hydration, and food all in one ;) 02:28 nullexe: is now known as null_exe 02:28 @ pink> Ah, I quit because people are insane 02:28 BeanFriedPork> did I say a pack? I meant a carton in my head actually :) 02:29 solcita* grins. 02:29 @ pink> old skool haha 02:29 Garthnak> It doesn't seem like people were too poor to leave. It just seems like they didn't WANT to leave. This happens during every hurricane, there's just people that refuse to leave. 02:29 solcita> pink: I get enough of insane people at work. Don't need 'em on LJ too. =) 02:29 Mode: #interdictor[+o solcita] by pink 02:29 @ pink> haha 02:29 k8to> Garthnak: all the mans of transportation were allocated 02:29 BeanFriedPork> Oh, and some toilet paper. 02:29 @ pink> feel free to spread the love in here too 02:29 k8to> Garthnak: they would have had to walk 02:29 itestel> k8to: they could have walked to the dome, not out of the city. my friend tried to escape sunday via car and traffic prevented him from leaving. the dome was a potentially scarey thing as well, compared to the potential saftey of ones home. 02:29 Mode: #interdictor[-o Nox] by Soms 02:29 Garthnak> k8to: Well, still. 02:29 BeanFriedPork> Probably a ton of pets are dead, and they're all on the back burner now. 02:29 k8to> Garthnak: i certainly would have 02:29 @ solcita> Garthnak: I heard many more accounts of people who could not afford to leave, no transportation or anything. 02:30 solcita* thanks pink. 02:30 Mode: #interdictor[-v+h Nox Nox] by Soms 02:30 k8to> itestel: if the cars are not moving. one can walk on the highway 02:30 joshua> Does anyone know the condition of the soldier who was shot? 02:30 itestel> garth: bussing wasn't really an option, the numbers just don't work out. (trip length, available busses, trip time, etc) 02:30 Mode: #interdictor[-v+h-v+h Toast7234 Toast7234 DR| DR|] by Soms 02:30 Garthnak> solcita: The question, though, is whether or not that's representative of most people that stayed in general or if it's being overemphasized. 02:30 Mode: #interdictor[-v+h-v+h douglas_carmich douglas_carmich lil_wayne lil_wayne] by Soms 02:30 lilan> garth, I suspect you have it right. at least for a large number of the people who stayed. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but its my understanding that new orleans does not get hurricanes on a reg basis [like florida]. storms yes, but hurricanes no 02:30 @ solcita> Garthnak: yeah, true. It's hard to tell. 02:30 @ michaelloftis> Yanno, I'm old school...i don't grok the half-op thing heh 02:30 Aikau* yawns... 02:31 lilan> I think he is ok Josh, he has medical treatment on the scene 02:31 k8to> it's not like i'm being some eagle eyed hindsight second guesser, I was contacting people still there a day before hand and exhorting them to leave on foot if they had to 02:31 @ solcita> Garthnak: and even of those who couldn't leave, I'd wager that they put a brave stubborn "if it's my time to go, it's my time!" face on for the media. Nobody wants to admit to being terrified. 02:31 itestel> k8to: my friend thought it wiser to rough it out in a house, not in a car. trying to wallk away from the storm beforehand would have been a recipe for death. 02:31 BeanFriedPork> Last major hurricane in N.O. was in 1969 or so right? 02:31 BeanFriedPork> Camille? 02:31 yume_no_hikari> michaelloftis: can kick/ban but not op or set most modes iirc 02:31 phreeB> they get 'cane, just not cat 4-5 ones 02:31 k8to> itestel: i guess that's true 02:31 Garthnak> New Orleans is essentially a man-made city, though. From what I understand, everyone is aware of the danger a possible flood posed. One man I heard interviewed specifically chose his house because itw as on high ground. 02:31 itestel> camille, yes. 02:31 lilan> I know if a hurricane was to hit here, I suspect few people would take it serious enough to evacuate. We just don;t get them here 02:32 Burke> I'd have, at the least, a good boat 02:32 null_exe> people stay where they are because they are either afraid to leave their posessions, unable to move due to medical reasons or lack of knowledge or because they see a profiteering option in looting while others evac 02:32 k8to> lilan: where is here? 02:32 lilan> Nova Scotia 02:32 @ solcita> And how about this, from Scientific American's October issue: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=00060286-CB58-1315-8B5883414B7F0000&ref=rdf 02:32 Khaz> i feel pretty damned lucky.. don't have any natural disasters to worry about here.. aside from the rare flood maybe once a decade 02:32 Garthnak> lilan: What if your city was only kept from being covered by water by levees and pump systems? 02:32 @ solcita> (which means it was probably in the works for a long time previously) 02:32 k8to> lilan: you.. get tired old ones every 60 years or so 02:32 @ solcita> "Drowning New Orleans 02:32 @ solcita> A major hurricane could swamp New Orleans under 20 feet of water, killing thousands. Human activities along the Mississippi River have dramatically increased the risk, and now only massive reengineering of southeastern Louisiana can save the city 02:32 k8to> lilan: nothing hugely threatening 02:32 BeanFriedPork> The north atlantic's too cold to get hurricanes generally. 02:32 @ michaelloftis> we had a decent earthquake not that long ago out here in montana heh 02:32 @ pink> We have earthquakes 02:32 lilan> we get heavy storms but not hurricanes. Shoot when Juan hit us, people were driving down to the wharfs to watch it come it! 02:32 Garthnak> lilan: And you knew that if those pump systems were put out of commission that you'd be flooded? --- Log closed Thu Sep 01 02:33:06 2005 --- Log opened Thu Sep 01 02:33:06 2005 02:33 BeanFriedPork> Massive reengineering it shall be then! 02:33 BeanFriedPork> AND RETALLIATION AGAINST MOTHER NATURE!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! 02:33 null_exe> woah stallion... 02:33 Aikau> heh 02:33 BeanFriedPork> WE'LL KILL YOU YET MOTHER EARTH!!!! 02:33 k8to> the mississippi did not fail 02:33 k8to> that's something 02:33 loranx* slams a fist full of opiates into BeanFriedPork's bonebox 02:34 Shandryl> All I can say is thank god for living in the mountains. All I have to worry about is an extinct volcano resurrecting itself... 02:34 BeanFriedPork> no sense of humor 02:34 loranx> simmah dauhn nauh 02:34 Garthnak> I know it sounds heartless, but to a certain extent most New Orleans residents were aware of the risks that were posed by a major event. The fact that they now expect everyone to bail them out for building their houses on sand is... 02:34 yume_no_hikari> Shandryl: depending on the area, you may still be prone to earthquakes. 02:34 @ solcita> Shandryl: is your extinct volcano the same as mine? =) 02:34 @ solcita> we get earthquakes here, too. 02:34 k8to> Garthnak: all our houses are built on sand 02:34 Khaz> lol same here shandryl 02:34 lilan> honestly I just think people get....numb to the dangers they live around on a daily basis. 02:35 Aikau> MP's? 02:35 Shandryl> My extinct volcano is in south-central B.C. Where's yours? =) 02:35 Garthnak> I live in earthquake area, and I don't expect to be bailed out by the gov if my house gets torn in two. That's what insurance is for. I'm accepting my own risks. 02:35 k8to> Garthnak: west coast people build their houses on mud hills 02:35 @ solcita> lilan: no way to live, otherwise. You'd drive yourself crazy if you worried about natural disasters every minute of every day. 02:35 @ solcita> Shandryl: Seattle. =) 02:35 Taste> escort lined up 02:35 lilan> in NO thats probably their canal system. Not being a New Orleaner myself, naturally I couldnt say for certain. just a wandering thought 02:35 loranx> garthnak: While you can run a rail of logic through the situation, times like these may be best faced with a less capitalistic (less weighing of the balances) and more altruistic energy. 02:35 Shandryl> I think the worst earthquake we've had here has been in the mid 1's on the richter scale... 02:35 k8to> Garthnak: most insurance policies won't cover you in large earthquakes 02:35 Garthnak> k8to: Yeah, I know, then they slide off the hill and expect the gov to bail THEM out :-P 02:35 @ solcita> We had one a few years ago, but I wasn't here then. 02:35 @ pink> I was on a damage spoke in the northridge EQ 02:35 Khaz> hehe mount st helens is within danger range for me.. as is mount hood.. 02:36 @ pink> I was in LB in the whittier EQ 02:36 k8to> Garthnak: i guess i'm not sure what you're saying 02:36 @ pink> lalalala 02:36 Garthnak> k8to: I know. But that's still a part of managing your own level of risk. 02:36 BeanFriedPork> I get numb to the possibility of a nuclear bomb being set off by terrorists by the White House and blowing the roof off my house. I imagine if that actually happened though, I'd stop being numb afterwards. 02:36 cavortingmonkey> heh 02:36 k8to> Garthnak: are you saying we shouldn't help rebuild new orleans because it was at risk to disaster? 02:36 @ solcita> If Rainier goes, I'm toas. 02:36 @ solcita> +t 02:36 Shandryl> Ah, Mt. St. Helens... I remember the good coating of ash we got all the way over here when it had it's big blow up.... 02:36 joshua> this situation sounds more like nuclear aftermath than a natural disaster... 02:36 BeanFriedPork> Rebuild it stronger, and smarter. 02:36 Garthnak> k8to: I'm not saying we shouldn't help. I'm saying they shouldn't EXPECT help. 02:36 k8to> Garthnak: or that we shouldn't spend money to rescue those in danger? 02:36 k8to> oh 02:36 k8to> well 02:36 Garthnak> k8to: Maybe it's a thin distinction. 02:36 Khaz> yeah.. i'm in southern oregon and we had a good layer of ash down here 02:36 BeanFriedPork> And maybe rebuild it a bit higher. 02:37 k8to> i think they should expect help 02:37 Garthnak> But I heard New Orleaners complaining that they weren't getting ENOUGH help from the government already. 02:37 k8to> but i'm amazed they stayed 02:37 BeanFriedPork> About ten feet higher maybe, wherever possible. 02:37 @ solcita> Garthnak: you're saying they should do what they can to help themselves, and any outside assistance shoudl just be icing on the cake? 02:37 @ Blacklite> guys I know I'm not 100% awesome but messaging me corrections doesn't help 02:37 Garthnak> When I think that the amount of rescue work that's been sent down there has been enormous. 02:37 @ Blacklite> if you want to give this a try let me know but 02:37 dynamicism> heh woah 02:37 k8to> Garthnak: i think it's fair to say that the lack of order that's gone on for days is .. underwhelming 02:37 Khaz> enough help? their shooting at their rescuers and they are complaining?? 02:37 Garthnak> k8to: But whose fault is that? 02:37 k8to> Blacklite: what communication channel are you manning that I should be reading? 02:38 @ Blacklite> #scanner 02:38 null_exe> khaz: you can't generalize and say that the shooters are the ones requesting aid 02:38 cavortingmonkey> So those in LA shouldn't expect help for living on a fault line should something happen there? Those in the west if a wildfire happens? Midwesterners getting hit by tornados? There's risk everywhere. 02:38 BeanFriedPork> Realistically only a small minority are shooting at the rescuers. Enough to fuck things up though. 02:38 Khaz> aye i know.. thats not exactly fair 02:38 k8to> Garthnak: i'm not assigning blame, but you said they were upset about the complaint "not enough help". I'd say that might be true 02:38 Garthnak> k8to: The rescue workers are doing what they can. They should still be commended for their actions, even if they are ultimately less than perfectly effective. 02:38 @ solcita> Exactly. 02:38 k8to> Don't confuse "not enough help" with "workers not trying hard enough" 02:38 @ michaelloftis> hokai...i gotta get some zzzzzs 02:39 Shandryl> It's certainly not the fault of the rescue workers that there's not enough help 02:39 Garthnak> k8to: Not enough help...for what, though? 02:39 Garthnak> k8to: It's all based on expectations. 02:39 k8to> i think a state of general disorder that persists the better half of a week without any major presence to quell it is surprisingly low response 02:40 k8to> maybe there are logistics that make it impossible to provide such a presence 02:40 Garthnak> k8to: If they are expecting a certain level of help from volunteer rescue organizations, or rescue organizations from other parts of the country, that is ABOVE what is being provided, I think that counts as ungrateful. 02:40 k8to> but it seems reasonable to be dissatisified 02:40 Garthnak> And that's not to say we shouldn't try harder, even. 02:40 null_exe> woot! city of austin PD helping in NO (null_exe is in Austin) 02:40 @ solcita> wow. the traffic about the buses is worrisome. 02:40 Shandryl> But the national guard isn't there to provide promissed diesel... 02:40 k8to> it's possible to be grateful for X even when you expected Y 02:40 @ solcita> sounds like they're running out of fuel, stopped them on the interstate for some reason... 02:40 joshua> Buses are picking up 95 MPs at a base on the way... 02:40 Garthnak> k8to: And I'm saying they sound ungracious for X BECAUSE they expected Y. 02:41 Garthnak> Not ALL of them, but some. 02:41 k8to> it seems like there was a big SNAFU over misguessing the flood level 02:41 null_exe> solcita: you're a dispatcher right? are things usually this disorganized? even in an emerg like this? 02:41 Garthnak> And without being there, I can't assess what percentage of people that is. 02:41 @ solcita> null_exe: I am, yeah... and god, no. 02:41 dynamicism> I think Nagin's leadership has been pretty weak 02:41 k8to> i'm sure there's a bunch of things that went wrong that prevented it 02:41 Aikau> an hour of silence... then a shitload of chatter... 02:41 BeanFriedPork> He aint no Winston Churchill 02:41 @ Blacklite> no kidding, Aikau 02:41 WebIrc-283> What do you want the man to do? His city's been turned into the seventh circle of Hell 02:41 phreeB> I think it's been quite good 02:41 @ solcita> null_exe: at least here, we have specialized training in what's called Incident Command System, which lays out the structure for major catastrophe personnel organization. 02:42 null_exe> solcita: well good, because i was getting worried (i'm on the recruit list for Austin PD and i was getting very discouraged by the chatter) 02:42 k8to> but if tehre was a huge earthquake here and there was no major presence to maintain order for multiple days, I would be ungrateful towards the powers that are charged with providing such 02:42 cavortingmonkey> The LA governor just said this morning that she "should have called in the military." 02:42 GhostFreeman> Is there a chance we can get an RSS feed 02:42 Garthnak> loranx: As for using altruism rather than logic - I don't exactly see how that would be useful. Altruism that is unguided by logic is worse than worthless. 02:42 @ solcita> null_exe: I can't say that if the entire city were destroyed that things wouldn't go to hell in a handbasket real fast, but we have training events every year designed to make sure that it DOESN'T. 02:42 WebIrc-283> They should have called in the military to enforce the evacuation order 02:42 dynamicism> Why wasn't there a "shoot on sight" order given to deal with the looters and other hellraisers? 02:42 @ solcita> null_exe: and good luck to you. =) 02:43 @ michaelloftis> OK 02:43 WebIrc-283> Probably because that's not legal, dyn 02:43 @ michaelloftis> i''m napping! finally lol 02:43 @ solcita> dynamicism: because yeah, can't kill people over a loaf of bread. 02:43 Graylight> Where the fuck is the military? We can take over an entire country but can't handle a single city? 02:43 BeanFriedPork> The lights appear to be off in the room the web camera's in 02:43 dynamicism> I'm not talking about people taking loaves of bread 02:43 lilan> geesh CNN is STILL repeating yesterdays news 02:43 phreeB> you can if you're an epert behind a keyboard hundreds of miles away 02:43 k8to> solcita: my understanding is that a lot of the rescue had to beat a retreat based on an expectation of 10 more feet of flooding 02:43 GhostFreeman> if my kids were starving i'd kill an entire city 02:43 Shandryl> That's the problem. The military is busy taking over another country. 02:43 GhostFreeman> just for a loaf of bread 02:43 dynamicism> But people running off with TVs, 2-3 boxes of sneakers, etc. 02:43 k8to> solicita: which essentially stalled the entire rescue effort for a whole day 02:44 WebIrc-283> You can't shoot people over TVs and sneakers, either 02:44 WebIrc-283> You don't do that on a regular day 02:44 k8to> well 02:44 GhostFreeman> Shandryl: I think we may see a draft real soon 02:44 @ solcita> k8to: that's very likely, yeah. Can't drive a fire engine through 8' of water. 02:44 Garthnak> GhostFreeman: That's pretty irresponsible. 02:44 k8to> i mean 02:44 WebIrc-283> A hurricane doesn't change that moral system 02:44 k8to> the gunmen etc 02:44 k8to> WebIrc-283: apparently it does 02:44 dynamicism> And this bullshit of hooligans running around with assault rifles and shooting at the police... wtf 02:44 k8to> WebIrc-283: for enough people to cause a real problem 02:44 BeanFriedPork> ok, nite. I'm going to sleep. 02:44 WebIrc-283> People grabbing TVs is not a real problem 02:44 Garthnak> GhostFreeman: Would you at least look for an option of getting bread first that did NOT involve mass murder? 02:44 WebIrc-283> Are they jerks? Yes 02:44 GhostFreeman> Of course 02:44 Shandryl> Take care, BFP 02:44 WebIrc-283> Are they causing havoc? No 02:45 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: Are they criminals? Yes. 02:45 GhostFreeman> I think I should have mentioned that first 02:45 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: Are they causing havoc? Yes. 02:45 WebIrc-283> Do we automatically shoot criminals? No 02:45 phreeB> this time tomorrow they'll all be lyin low 02:45 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: Some of them we do. 02:45 loranx> lol 02:45 WebIrc-283> Guys with TVs we don't 02:45 loranx> first time i saw the news 02:45 loranx> focusing on the looting 02:45 loranx> all they were showing was this shot of this group of people 02:45 @ solcita> I did see some places where they were trying to organize orderly handouts of supplies, rather than rioting. Which is at least something. 02:46 loranx> leaving a minimart with boxes of candy bars and water bottles and coke six packs 02:46 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: I don't know. If I'm a TV salesman, and that TV represents my livelihood, I just might. 02:46 k8to> WebIrc-283: i recomend you wait and see what we do. You may be surprised. 02:46 loranx> and beer 02:46 GhostFreeman> What about air dropping MREs 02:46 loranx> and all i could thing is 02:46 WebIrc-283> Then you belong in jail 02:46 WebIrc-283> Killing a man over a TV, I'm sorry, but that's never okay 02:46 dynamicism> Yeah, I wonder why they aren't air-dropped MREs and bottled water and such... 02:46 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: But only if I've exhausted my legal recourses first. 02:46 loranx> er, think... 02:46 dynamicism> *air-dropping 02:46 loranx> When is it looting and when is it "There's no dude at the counter and I really need some m'f'n nachos and a beer (a tall) because I had to ROW HERE ON MY TELEVISION SET!" 02:46 k8to> usually we wait until people commit crimes before jailing them 02:46 cavortingmonkey> You air drop MREs, one of those dudes who looted the Walmart of their gun supply is going to have a nice little business selling them. 02:46 phreeB> great idea - drop a bunch of mre's into floodwater 02:47 phreeB> MRE's*WERE* delivered to the dome 02:47 Shandryl* breaks out the three litres of reserve caffeine 02:47 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: Taking someone's property is never okay. We should not contribute to the creation of a society where that BECOMES okay, because people are unwilling to do anything to stop it. 02:47 lilan> I've been wondering about the air-dropping water and mres too. 02:47 WebIrc-283> I didn't say it's okay, I just said it's not okay to shoot people who do it 02:47 k8to> cavortingmonkey: that's not that terrible compared to no MREs 02:47 lilan> really surprised they didnt do that right way 02:47 phreeB> if you are poor and hungry you go to the dome 02:47 GhostFreeman> cavortingmonkey: its no longer looting then, its democracy 02:47 dynamicism> So pack the MREs in waterproof packaging that can float 02:47 Garthnak> Anyway, shooting him as he carries my TV is probably a bad idea anyway. He might drop the TV and break it. 02:47 dynamicism> It'd be easy enough. 02:47 WebIrc-283> Jaywalking isn't okay, either, but I don't think anyone is proposing capital punishment for it 02:47 phreeB> if not expect to get shot 02:47 cavortingmonkey> k8to: Yeah, but if it doesn't get to the people who need 'em, then air drops aren't really worth it, eh? 02:47 phreeB> matial law changes things 02:48 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: Jaywalking can sometimes cause self-administrated capital punishment. 02:48 phreeB> you can be shot for breaking curfew 02:48 k8to> cavortingmonkey: uh, i suspect if he's selling them to someone, they probably need them 02:48 lilan> don't they already come in water proof packs? 02:48 WebIrc-283> Well, we're digressing here 02:48 Graylight> Apparently there are 28,000 troops dedicated to the operation. Where are they in New Orleans?? Where is the order? 02:48 phreeB> or jaywalking 02:48 phreeB> or looting 02:48 Shandryl> Unfortunately, if you have what is essentially the unattended or unpoliced distribution of aid, it's likely, as proven in third world nations, that the aid will go to the people with the guns and will then be sold, rather than given to the people who need it, if the people can afford it 02:48 dynamicism> Graylight: Well, it's hard to move much of anyone or anything significant into NO right now... that's the major hold-up 02:48 k8to> cavortingmonkey: some people fed > no people fed? 02:48 cavortingmonkey> Shandryl: Yeah. 02:48 WebIrc-283> It's hard to have the army march into a city-wide wading pool 02:48 Shandryl> And yes, MREs already are in waterproff packaging 02:48 GhostFreeman> 28,000? Oh yeah, I'm moving to Canada 02:49 Graylight> If I were the commander in cheif, I'd send in fucking paratroopers. 02:49 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: Looting is wrong. Particularly looting of items unessential for survival. Allowing looters to get away with it contributes to the chaos. 02:49 GhostFreeman> But seriously, airdropping MREs sound like a good way to get food to those who haven't been rescued 02:49 WebIrc-283> Shooting people who steal TVs is wrong. Allowing people to shoot petty thieves contributes to a destruction of civilization. 02:49 joshua> If I had no food, a family to feed and haven't eaten in two days...you better believe I'd break into anywhere I could to survive. 02:49 @ solcita> I'll agree with "items unessential to survival". 02:49 k8to> Shandryl: i don't believe that established power stuctures will necessarily behave the same way as chaos 02:49 GhostFreeman> we should also airdrop water 02:49 @ solcita> But... honestly, these people are desperate and still in shock. 02:49 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: Not if we shoot them all. Then we'll have no more thieves. I'd call that an improvement. 02:49 phreeB> if they can't get rescued, they can't get to MRE's either 02:49 joshua> But, the shooting, the looting of 20 boxes of shoes...ridiculous. 02:49 solcita* nods at joshua 02:50 WebIrc-283> If we kill all the citizens, we'll have no criminals of any kind 02:50 WebIrc-283> Kill all the infants 02:50 WebIrc-283> Exterminate the species 02:50 WebIrc-283> Crime, gone 02:50 Aikau> ... 02:50 WebIrc-283> Is that desirable? 02:50 phreeB> under martial law, you can do that 02:50 Garthnak> That's a bit of a step beyond killing people actively engaged in crime. 02:50 WebIrc-283> Martial law has NOT been declared 02:50 dynamicism> I think once the bandits figure out that it's shoot on sight for them and their ilk, most of them will just disperse. 02:50 @ Soms> uh 02:50 k8to> are people with TVs being shot? 02:50 @ Soms> martial law has been declared 02:50 dynamicism> All you need are a few examples. 02:50 joshua> webirc is right. let's call the Punisher in. 02:50 k8to> what is being argued about here? 02:50 WebIrc-283> Here in the US, we determine crimes in court 02:50 joshua> Martial Law isn't declared. 02:50 dynamicism> Martial Law has been declared... 02:51 phreeB> where does it say martial law wasn't declared? 02:51 k8to> are you just making up a thought experiment to support your personal moral code? 02:51 WebIrc-283> Martial law has NOT been declared 02:51 Garthnak> That's like taking my suggestion that "eating is good and healthy" and turning it into "Oh, so people should gorge themselves until their bowels overflow with Big Macs and Whoppers? Is that what you want?" 02:51 WebIrc-283> CNN and Fox recanted on the martial law 02:51 phreeB> I seen plenty of places where it said it was 02:51 @ Soms> heh WebIrc-020 what are you smoking? 02:51 Aikau> from wikipedia: Contrary to many media reports, martial law has not been declared in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, because no such term exists in Louisiana state law[4]. Rather, a state of emergency has been declared, which does give some powers similar to that of martial law. On the evening of August 31, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin did declare "martial law" (in name at least) in the city and said that "officer 02:51 dynamicism> Oh, they did? Hmm. 02:51 Aikau> s don't have to worry about civil rights and Miranda rights in stopping the looters. 02:51 joshua> You can't declare martial law in Louisiana. 02:51 k8to> phreeB: it was claimed somewhere that there's no martial law in LA 02:51 k8to> phreeB: i don't have much assurance on this point 02:51 GhostFreeman> Do the S+R team need boats? 02:51 @ Soms> Martial Law can be declared anywhere in the world 02:51 joshua> thank you aikau. 02:51 phreeB> my Louisianan wife says there is 02:51 @ Soms> yes GhostFreeman 02:51 k8to> phreeB: however, it's a hair-splitting issue 02:51 GhostFreeman> I might be able to come down there with my Jetski 02:51 dynamicism> Well that's retarded. They need to declare it. 02:51 WebIrc-283> Some actions have been taken that are similar to what people think of as "martial law" 02:51 @ Soms> call the police department they need flat bottomed boats 02:51 GhostFreeman> only has room for two, though 02:51 phreeB> they did declare it already 02:52 @ Blacklite> hey, any volunteers for the wonderful world of transcription 02:52 WebIrc-283> But there is no official "martial law" in effect 02:52 joshua> She's been misinformed. the media messed up. They are in a state of emergency. 02:52 k8to> WebIrc-283: you're splitting hairs 02:52 GhostFreeman> Probably not able to help, but my aunt has one 02:52 k8to> WebIrc-283: it's not relevant 02:52 WebIrc-283> No, I'm not, some people are contending that martial law = license to kill 02:52 @ solcita> Which it does not. 02:52 k8to> WebIrc-283: state of emergency is quite similar to martial law 02:52 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: But if it is _effectively_ martial law, then we're just quibbling over terms. 02:52 lilan> ghost, I think you'd be ripped to shreds if you entered NO on a jetski right now 02:52 WebIrc-283> It is not effectively martial law, either 02:52 WebIrc-283> Martial law implies a military 02:52 WebIrc-283> Since you're all complaining that no military has taken over NO 02:52 WebIrc-283> That's not much of a martial law, is it? 02:53 k8to> uh 02:53 joshua> What if I entered NO on a Yacht, grilling hamburgers, and drinking heineken? 02:53 phreeB> oh funny 02:53 k8to> taken over is de facto 02:53 WebIrc-283> So is martial law 02:53 k8to> rather than de jure 02:53 k8to> if we want to argue terms 02:53 yume_no_hikari> joshua: you'd be shot for drinking bad beer. 02:53 WebIrc-283> LAW = de jure 02:53 k8to> if martial law is only facto 02:53 k8to> then 02:53 joshua> hahaha can't argue with that. 02:53 WebIrc-283> Martial law is neither right now 02:53 k8to> why are you arguing that there is no such thin in LA? 02:53 WebIrc-283> Since there is no significant military presence 02:53 joshua> k8to: because there isn't a such thing. 02:53 @ Soms> joshua, you better atleast invite us 02:54 GhostFreeman> Martial law isn't official yet 02:54 Garthnak> We're talking de facto martial law, at least as desired by the mayor of NO, and as imposed by the police there. 02:54 WebIrc-283> And in what does that consist? 02:54 k8to> joshua: yes but he claims 1) martial law is a matter of fact, presence, 2) there is no martial law ALLOWED in LA 02:54 Garthnak> Rather than by actual military directly. 02:54 phreeB> there's a fuckin shitload of water and some asshole looters who need an ass whuppin there I know that much 02:54 WebIrc-283> The looters who are ONLY looting aren't hurting anyone 02:54 WebIrc-283> People with guns are different 02:54 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: A suspension of civil liberties, a freeing of police to act with more discretion. 02:54 WebIrc-283> People who riot are different 02:54 joshua> k8to: Martial law isn't allowed in LA...right now they are as close as they can be to martial law. 02:54 GhostFreeman> is martial law illegal all over LA or just NO' 02:55 GhostFreeman> ah 02:55 WebIrc-283> But people who are ONLY stealing stuff aren't hurting anyone 02:55 @ solcita> People who shoot at soldiers in the Superdome are different. 02:55 joshua> all over Louisiana. 02:55 k8to> joshua: yes great. I pointed out webirc283 is self contradictory 02:55 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: Except, you know, the people that own the property. 02:55 k8to> that's all 02:55 WebIrc-283> The people who own the property left town 02:55 WebIrc-283> They are not being physically injured 02:55 @ solcita> Garthnak: just as a point of interest...are they there to sell the property? 02:55 WebIrc-283> Property has to take a back seat to human survival at this point 02:55 @ solcita> Will it be left to rot while they seek shelter hundreds of miles away in another state? 02:55 Garthnak> No. That still doesn't authorize them to take it. 02:55 @ solcita> Then let people use it to survive. 02:56 lilan> well i am off. I enjoyed reading all the different opinions/ideas on the events. cya 02:56 WebIrc-283> Ugh, I didn't say that looting is OKAY or ACCEPTABLE 02:56 Garthnak> And I'm not talking about SURVIVAL 02:56 Garthnak> I'm talking about DVD PLAYERS 02:56 WebIrc-283> I just said that it's not hurting anyone 02:56 joshua> What do you guys estimate as far as overall casualties go? 02:56 WebIrc-283> It's not adding to the chaos 02:56 @ solcita> I think you guys are talking the same thing. 02:56 Garthnak> It is MORE acceptable if you NEED it to survive. 02:56 k8to> WebIrc-283: some argue that an allowance of property disrespect contributes to decreased chances of survival 02:56 GhostFreeman> why would you need a DVD player 02:56 Hynes> i want to work at internic :( 02:56 Garthnak> But I'm not talking about that. 02:56 phreeB> it is adding to the breakdown of law and order 02:56 WebIrc-283> And they argue this on what basis? 02:56 Garthnak> I'm talking about STEALING UNNECESSARY ITEMS. 02:56 GhostFreeman> unless you have a generator and a DVD 02:56 WebIrc-283> I didn't say that stealing unnecessary items is okay 02:56 WebIrc-283> It is not okay 02:57 WebIrc-283> But it is not causing hysteria and chaos unto itself 02:57 k8to> WebIrc-283: 1) it contributes to a mob suspension of the socio-legal framework which discourages damaging behavior 02:57 joshua> ghostfreeman: A DVD on survival techniques, maybe. 02:57 k8to> WebIrc-283: 2) it prevents useful rationing 02:57 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: It is a symptom of the chaos, and it leads to continue the cycle of chaos. 02:57 phreeB> Do not kill, do not rape, do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace 02:57 GhostFreeman> yeah, a DVD Player is still useless 02:57 WebIrc-283> How does me stealing a DVD player prevent anyone from rationing food and water? 02:58 k8to> WebIrc-283: see point 1 02:58 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: People are fighting over them. They're causing chaos to obtain and keep their ill-gotten property. 02:58 k8to> i was discussing the overall problem of looting 02:58 WebIrc-283> Then that is different 02:58 k8to> and why it is viewed as bad 02:58 WebIrc-283> I'm talking about people who ONLY steal 02:58 k8to> by some people 02:58 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: "Only" 02:58 WebIrc-283> Take DVD, walk home, end of story 02:58 k8to> some theoretical mythical people 02:58 k8to> who are only stealing TVs 02:58 k8to> and not food 02:58 GhostFreeman> at least return it if you didn't like the movie 02:58 WebIrc-283> If I start a street war to defend my new DVD player, that's different 02:58 WebIrc-283> Stealing food is even more acceptable 02:58 WebIrc-283> I'd be stealing all the food 02:58 k8to> so you are here only to plug your bizarre moral code 02:59 Garthnak> WebIrc-283: That is still unacceptable in civil society. Even in an emergency situation. Should it take a back seat to finding murderers? Sure. But it shouldn't be simply tolerated. 02:59 phreeB> because you are a thief? 02:59 joshua> Seeing petty arguing in this channel, i can now understand the mindframe of people in a disaster shooting at police. 02:59 WebIrc-283> I'd rather be a living thief than a dead innocent 02:59 phreeB> how about a dead thief? 02:59 k8to> joshua: snark! 02:59 Aikau> heh 02:59 Shandryl> But you wouldn't be a dead innocent just because you didn't steal a DVD... 02:59 k8to> joshua: but certainly chaos is a common human situation 03:00 phreeB> there are thousands of living innocents at the dome' 03:00 WebIrc-283> Well, sure, there's that village that I burned down in 1979 03:00 joshua> I don't give a shit if you steal my DVD player...I can buy another one. Just don't steal my porn, damnit. 03:00 Garthnak> joshua: Can't buy more porn? 03:00 cavortingmonkey> lol 03:00 joshua> Not the rare stuff. 03:00 WebIrc-283> Make your own porn 03:00 WebIrc-283> Go out to the DirectNIC webcam 03:00 WebIrc-283> And start fucking 03:00 phreeB> you were burning vills in 79? 03:00 Garthnak> joshua: Debbie Does Dublin? 03:00 %douglas_carmich> anyone here a licensed ham? 03:00 Garthnak> douglas_carmich: Me. 03:00 joshua> Well, if someone stole that I'd be pissed. It'd be hard to find another call girl willing to do the dracula/cowboy fantasy again. 03:01 Garthnak> Though I don't really talk much any more. 03:01 k8to> joshua: was she the cowboy or the vampire? 03:01 WebIrc-283> Both 03:01 WebIrc-283> She was a cowboy vampire 03:01 Aikau> hot. 03:01 joshua> yes. both. 03:01 WebIrc-283> It ended with her shooting herself with a silver bullet 03:01 Aikau> thought that was werewolf 03:01 k8to> shhh 03:02 WebIrc-283> She was that, too 03:02 Aikau> haha. 03:02 GhostFreeman> I'd let theives have my computer, but I'm keeping the hard drives 03:02 GhostFreeman> too much good music, man 03:02 BeanFriedPork> I wouldn't've come back, but there's a new explanation for some of the more violent bullshit and looting: apparently when the levees broke, the local jail released all its inmates. Fucking brilliant. 03:02 joshua> By silver bullet, you mean she drank a Coor's Light, melted and I pocketed the money I gave her...yeah that's the ending. 03:02 WebIrc-283> Ta Da 03:02 Aikau> hahahaha 03:02 joshua> Man, I need help. 03:02 Aikau> yes... yes you do 03:03 WebIrc-283> Help! I need somebody! 03:03 joshua> Not just anybody. 03:03 WebIrc-283> Help! You know, I need someone 03:03 Shandryl> Okay, I can understand some people not leaving because they wanted to stick it out or couldn't evacuate, but why on earth would the correctional system not get some prison busses and evacuate the prisoners?? 03:03 joshua> great song. 03:03 GhostFreeman> nobody cares about the prisoners 03:03 WebIrc-283> I can't understand anyone leaving because they wanted to stick it out 03:03 BeanFriedPork> Now people are only in jail for one of two things: serving sentences of less than a year, or awaiting trial (even for things like homicide). 03:03 WebIrc-283> Couldn't leave is one thing, but didn't want to is braindead 03:03 joshua> shandryl: they didn't have time. prison buses were probably being used for something else, or were submerged. 03:03 BeanFriedPork> Well, prison is for long term sentences. 03:03 @ solcita> Shandryl: the amount of logistical arranging that takes... nobody thought it'd be that bad until it was too late. 03:04 BeanFriedPork> I don;t know if this was all prisoners, but at any rate its insane. 03:04 WebIrc-283> I'm unable to muster great sympathy for people who chose to stay behind 03:04 @ solcita> Chose to, yeah. 03:04 @ solcita> Had to is different. 03:04 WebIrc-283> They had days of advance warning that the place was going down Bible-style 03:04 phreeB> yeah - shoot em whether they're looting or not 03:04 Shandryl> They urged the populace days i advance to evacuate... They had some idea of what was coming... 03:05 WebIrc-283> Precisely 03:05 WebIrc-283> If you stayed behind by choice, sorry, but you lost the gamble 03:05 BeanFriedPork> I think the general idea is they'd be given ankle bracelets or whatever and be asked to return eventually. They actually did this with a few hundred prisoners in one of the hurricanes in Florida. Of course a good number chose not to return. 03:05 @ solcita> Naturally. 03:05 WebIrc-283> I didn't kill my wife! 03:05 cavortingmonkey> The mandatory evac order didn't come til Sun morning though, didn't it? 03:06 cavortingmonkey> If you didn't pay attn to radio or TV, how would you have known? 03:06 joshua> This is the greatest disaster of our times. By far. 03:06 WebIrc-283> Who doesn't pay attention to the radio, the TV, the newspaper, or the Internet? 03:06 Aikau> boingboing post on tues: The poorest 20% (you can argue with the number -- 10%? 18%? no one knows) of the city was left behind to drown. This was the plan. Forget the sanctimonious bullshit about the bullheaded people who wouldn't leave. The evacuation plan was strictly laissez-faire. It depended on privately owned vehicles, and on having ready cash to fund an evacuation. The planners knew full well that the poor, who in new orlean 03:06 Aikau> s are overwhelmingly black, wouldn't be able to get out. The resources -- meaning, the political will -- weren't there to get them out. 03:06 BeanFriedPork> I mean, I hope they at least bused ut the prisoners awaiting trial for violent crimes. I hope they were that smart. 03:06 cavortingmonkey> The elderly, others. I mean, there are people who don't tie in every day. :) 03:06 WebIrc-283> I'm as liberal as they come, but that's bullshit 03:06 WebIrc-283> Never underestimate the power of WALKING 03:06 dynamicism> Aikau, what a bullshit post. 03:07 Aikau> not my words... just relaying 03:07 dynamicism> I know. 03:07 BeanFriedPork> Ok, seriously, what planners? Do you think anyone _planned_ on the city getting annihilated? That's ridiculous. 03:07 WebIrc-283> They should have 03:07 joshua> They were too busy making plans on the overall evacutions...there'd be no time to evac 20% of the city. 03:07 WebIrc-283> It's below sea level between a big-ass lake and the fucking ocean 03:07 WebIrc-283> Foreseeing massive destruction should have been trivial 03:07 dynamicism> Some people just aren't going to pay attention. 03:08 dynamicism> And now we're having to pay heaps of dollars to go "rescue" them 03:08 Aikau> heh... could always take powder cement... drop it on the flooding... presto.. instantly at sea level. 03:08 joshua> and there's always the "It would never happen to me" mentality. 03:08 dynamicism> Right, that too. 03:08 WebIrc-283> And indeed, it did not happen to me! 03:08 @ solcita> October 2001 Scientific American: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=00060286-CB58-1315-8B5883414B7F0000&ref=rdf 03:08 @ solcita> Yeah, it was forseen. 03:08 BeanFriedPork> I'm not saying they didn;t fuck up in that way, but they didn't consciously plan for an event like this to happen at all. 03:08 joshua> "I've lived in this city my entire life. I'm not leaving because of some stupid storm"...ect. 03:08 GhostFreeman> I think whether or not it was forseen isnt what matters 03:09 WebIrc-283> And we're saying, Bean, that they should have 03:09 WebIrc-283> That they didn't is obvious 03:09 WebIrc-283> That they should have is, too 03:09 joshua> Everyone knows someone with transportation. 03:09 WebIrc-283> Everyone has transportation built in 03:09 WebIrc-283> It's called "legs" 03:09 GhostFreeman> but that they knew ahead of time the stiff count and damage was going to be unavoidable 03:09 dynamicism> Or bikes even. 03:09 WebIrc-283> You could walk out of New Orleans with the warning time they had 03:09 phreeB> and now everyone's an expert 03:09 Aikau> heh 03:09 @ solcita> They should have given the evac order much sooner. 03:09 GhostFreeman> would save on gas, 283 03:09 k8to> hey i know, let's blame the victims 03:09 BeanFriedPork> I'm just saying: there was no real evacuation plan. 03:10 WebIrc-283> Well, okay, but that's obvious 03:10 cavortingmonkey> Hell, I can't walk to the corner and back. It frightens me to think of what I would have had to choose. 03:10 WebIrc-283> "Evacuate now" was the extent of the plan 03:10 dynamicism> Bean: There was no way to get the proper logistics in place for an effective evac plan 03:10 BeanFriedPork> I agree. I hope they fucking learn from this at least. 03:10 phreeB> my MIL has evacuated at least 2x b4 this this season already 03:10 WebIrc-283> The lesson here is this: 03:10 dynamicism> But I mean, you know, the people could have taken their own intiative. 03:10 GhostFreeman> they should have done it 12 hours earlier 03:10 WebIrc-283> Human beings should not live where New Orleans used to be 03:10 BeanFriedPork> that isn;t really true. It likely was just prohibitively expensive. 03:10 null_exe> irc-283: when was the last time you walked from a city's downtown to it's edge and beyond? i bike from downtown to the city limits for work everyday and let me tell you, it's no piece of cake... 03:10 k8to> dynamicism: from the time they learned there was a major hurricane coming? no, there was no time 03:11 WebIrc-283> In a bowl between a lake and an ocean, do not live there 03:11 WebIrc-283> This is a sign 03:11 k8to> dynamicism: from the time that disaster planners were aware that a hurricane striking new orleans would be disasterous? years, decades to plan 03:11 cavortingmonkey> So people should leave LA, too. 03:11 WebIrc-283> A sign that says, "Do not live here. Property of Mississippi River." 03:11 joshua> Face it. George Bush screwed up..if he would've sent Dick Cheney to surf in the opposite direction of the storm, it would've dissipated immediately. 03:11 cavortingmonkey> And the entire west coast. 03:11 dynamicism> k8to: You're absolutely correct on the latter. 03:11 BeanFriedPork> But plans to reenforce the seawall have been in the works for decades, and only got approved in 1995 and work still hadn't been completed. 03:11 null_exe> irc-283: now try getting several thousand people without vehicle access out of a city in 3 days 03:11 loranx> http://landsat.usgs.gov/gallery/detail/412/ 03:11 loranx> before/after usgs shots 03:11 dynamicism> New Orleans had been plenty warned... for years upon years. 03:11 k8to> joshua: true fact! 03:12 WebIrc-283> The frequency of an event capable of DESTROYING a West Coast city is tens of thousands of years 03:12 BeanFriedPork> If they had a full three days, maybe it could've been possible. They had like half of that before the storm hit. 03:12 WebIrc-283> Earthquakes hit, yes, but they don't DESTROY cities 03:12 dynamicism> There was more than enough time to reinforce the levees, etc. 03:12 k8to> dynamicism: i have no idea whose responsbilit(ies) that is, but I'm not going to point fingers because I have no idea 03:12 BeanFriedPork> Yes 03:12 loranx> that's why it's called the "pacific" 03:12 k8to> well 03:12 k8to> and, not but 03:12 mikep1230> It's the entire West coast of the US due to fall into the ocean? 03:12 GhostFreeman> They've been wanting to redo the levees for years 03:12 mikep1230> due/overdue? 03:12 GhostFreeman> nothing was ever done about it 03:12 WebIrc-283> The West Coast is not scheduled to fall into the ocean 03:12 WebIrc-283> The westernmost sliver is sliding northward 03:13 BeanFriedPork> And they messed that up. The government (city/state/federal) should've made reenforcing the levees a bigger priority 03:13 dynamicism> Well, it's pointless to play the blame game right now. The responsibility was on the shoulders of many though. 03:13 WebIrc-283> California will eventually slam into Alaska 03:13 null_exe> *sigh* now that tragedy hits, everyone wants to blame someone else... 03:13 joshua> screw earthquakes, la palma or the yellowstone caldera is what's going to mess us up. 03:13 k8to> i don't think mikep was serious 03:13 k8to> WebIrc-283: san francisco will, not most of CA 03:13 BeanFriedPork> anyway, I'm going to sleep. night 03:13 GhostFreeman> Cumbre Vieja, keep your eyes on that 03:13 WebIrc-283> The part west of the fault 03:13 WebIrc-283> A little coastal sliver 03:13 k8to> SF! 03:13 WebIrc-283> ...and the rest of the sliver 03:14 @ solcita> okay, kids. it's past 3am and bedtime for me. 'night all, be back in the morning. 03:14 phreeB> nite 03:14 k8to> yes, but who cares about the rest 03:14 WebIrc-283> Nobody, but still :-P 03:14 solcita: is now known as solcita|zzz 03:14 joshua> NO has seen dozens of hurricanes...no one really saw this coming. 03:14 WebIrc-283> They should have 03:14 k8to> joshua: this scenario was specifically forseen by disaster planners 03:15 WebIrc-283> The city is fucking BELOW SEA LEVEL, predicting major flooding is not hard to do 03:15 loganattwood: is now known as loganattwood|sh 03:15 Aikau> ugh... gotta be to work in 3 hours. and we're sure to get NO refugees to work on at the hospital... so it's bedtime 03:15 loganattwood|sh: is now known as logana|shower 03:15 k8to> joshua: you could find text about it months ago 03:15 k8to> research from years ago 03:15 joshua> I know. National Geographic has been running articles on the potential threat for years... 03:15 k8to> joshua: if you mean like, the population didn't see it coming, i agree 03:15 joshua> but like I said, the "It'll never happen to me" mentality. 03:15 k8to> apologies, misunderstood 03:15 WebIrc-283> Well, that mentality is okay for the average person 03:15 WebIrc-283> But people whose jobs this is 03:16 WebIrc-283> No excuse 03:16 joshua> politicians are politicians...they have to appease campaign contributors before they get any real work done. 03:16 dynamicism> How's the rest of the world's reaction to this? Are they still blaming the disaster on us for not signing Kyoto? 03:16 GhostFreeman> they also haveta suck up to political advisors 03:16 k8to> anyway, the percent which evacuated is kind of high for a major city on short notice 03:16 mikep1230> Most of the rest of the world doesn't care. 03:16 WebIrc-283> No, I'd blame it on us for being in league with Satan 03:16 GhostFreeman> Some countries offered help but we refused 03:16 joshua> It could've been alot worse. Alot worse. 03:16 dynamicism> Refused eh? That's interesting. 03:16 k8to> joshua: oh yes 03:17 GhostFreeman> so yes, god is punishing us for pissing on Kyoto 03:17 WebIrc-283> Or for the last election? 03:17 mikep1230> We shouldn't need help from others... the question is, why isn't more federal aid (ie military) moving in? 03:17 @ Soms> yea we are atleast somewhat glad it went east 03:17 joshua> We refuse help from other countries because our releief efforts are pretty planned out. France or Germany sending hundreds of workers over would've just added to the confusion. 03:17 k8to> GhostFreeman: that's a .. bit of a stretch! 03:17 phreeB> a lot of the rest of the world *does* care TYVM 03:17 GhostFreeman> I'd say both 283, lol 03:17 @ Soms> yet whats east got wacked hard 03:17 joshua> We usually contract workers from Canada for situations like this...but not other governments. 03:17 dynamicism> mike: There's something like 20,000 coming in. 03:18 mikep1230> When? 03:18 dynamicism> I believe they're en route. 03:18 mikep1230> rgr 03:18 Aikau> you'll hear it on the scanner... 'buses of canadians want to help, over' 03:18 mikep1230* isn't trying to make stupid points, but doesn't have much information. 03:18 dynamicism> Where's the scanner? 03:18 @ Soms> #scanner 03:18 Aikau> #scanner... look at topic 03:19 Garthnak> joshua: Yeah, Canada's just the 51st state, anyway. 03:19 GhostFreeman> If Germany won't give the US money to help, they can give it to me 03:19 Shandryl> Plus the Urban Search & Rescue team from Vancouver is on its way down 03:19 WebIrc-283> The UK is 52 03:19 GhostFreeman> I thought that was Cuba 03:19 joshua> 1,000,000 deutchmarks can buy alot of 40's. 03:19 Aikau> edward 40hands for all 03:19 phreeB> you can get em for free in NO 03:19 GhostFreeman> five finger discount 03:19 Aikau> doubt there are any left 03:19 mikep1230> DM haven't existed for years... 03:20 phreeB> if you are low enough to steal 03:20 joshua> aikau: if the people in NO played that...all of them...the piss would bring the water to about 20 feet above sea level. 03:20 Shandryl> Hey Blacklite, they're calling Canada the 51st state, again. Cut off the transcription. *grin* 03:20 Aikau> haha 03:20 Aikau> yeah, but it's a great game 03:20 k8to> mikep1230: i still have mine! 03:20 mikep1230* idly wonders what the exchange rate is. 03:21 joshua> I can't unzip my pants without my hands...so I'm usually in trouble playing that. 03:21 GhostFreeman> its the United States of Canada, not McHalliburtonLand 03:21 joshua> mikep: exchange for hat? 1 mil deutchmarks? 03:21 bookman> hey there hows everyone holding up there then 03:21 Aikau> you have to get another person to do it for you 03:21 Aikau> hopefully a chick. 03:21 mikep1230> I guess, joshua. Not that "exchange" is really the right term for what isn't a currency anymore, but you know. 03:21 joshua> haha oh yeah. euros. i forgot. 03:22 mikep1230> ;) 03:22 mikep1230> I live in Germany, so it's a little hard to forget. 03:22 joshua> 632,474 USD 03:23 Aikau> ? 03:23 mikep1230> Anyway, lunchtime's over... back to work. 03:24 joshua> anyone else listening to the scanner? 03:24 ModusPwnens> apparently ;) 03:24 ModusPwnens> not a whole lot going on right now 03:24 ModusPwnens> just trying to handle the busses 03:25 GhostFreeman> http://edc.usgs.gov/Katrina.html oh fuck 03:26 GhostFreeman> they won't be rebuilding NO anytime soon 03:26 joshua> shit....just look at where the buildings used to be. 03:26 joshua> they're saying 12-16 weeks until it's habitable again. I call their bluff on that. 03:26 ModusPwnens> will we have our first city of the future built 50 feet above the ruins of what it used to be? 03:27 GhostFreeman> I'm in favor of that 03:27 dynamicism> They'll rebuild it 03:27 Knobee> I'm estimating 4K dead, city raized and "moved inland". 03:27 GhostFreeman> 12-16 months more likely 03:27 dynamicism> Nobody is going to let the waters just reclaim New Orleans like that. 03:27 Garthnak> They'll rebuild it, and they'll rebuild it close to what it was. 03:27 Knobee> yup, not as long as there is tax money to rebuild... 03:27 Knobee> 8-( 03:27 GhostFreeman> is search and rescue is dying down? 03:27 Garthnak> People are resilient and stubborn. 03:28 dynamicism> That's right Garthnak. 03:28 Garthnak> And they don't often learn from history. 03:28 joshua> Can you imagine how many houses they're going to have to go through? It will take months. 03:28 Knobee> if, by resilient and stubborn, you mean stupid. 03:28 GhostFreeman> are s+r efforts dying down 03:28 GhostFreeman> or are they still persistant 03:28 joshua> Search and rescue will pick up at daybreak. 03:28 Knobee> Eastern North Carolina is still rebuilding from the hurricanes 2 years ago. 03:28 dynamicism> I believe there's more focus on the looting and other disruptions right now. 03:28 GhostFreeman> in other words, WE ARE BROKE\ 03:28 Garthnak> Knobee: That too. 03:28 dynamicism> Because it's getting bad enough that it's interfering with S+R 03:29 MaxxMonde> I know you guys are tired and all. But goddamn. On hell of a job keeping things sane in your center. 03:29 Pete_O> Greetings from Oxford, UK 03:29 Garthnak> Good night folks. 03:29 %douglas_carmich> is there much comm for the cops? 03:29 GhostFreeman> All our money squandered away on Iraq 03:29 ModusPwnens> not a whole lot going on right now 03:29 dynamicism> Hi there Pete... what's the reaction over the in the UK to all of this? 03:29 dynamicism> *over there 03:29 GhostFreeman> they can give a toss 03:29 Pete_O> It's all just starting to sink in (excuse the pun) 03:29 Knobee> You see the stories about Tulane Medical Center being taken over (hostages taken?) 03:29 Hynes> same with Australia (I'm in Melbourne) 03:29 Hynes> They don't care. 03:29 Pete_O> Reports of bodies in the streets, martial law etc 03:30 dynamicism> I haven't seen that Knobee 03:30 dynamicism> When did that happen? 03:30 Knobee> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1474267/posts 03:30 Pete_O> What's really shocking (and why I logged in) is the way that social order has collapsed 03:30 Knobee> and yeah, it's freeper, but look at the references before you judge. 03:30 MaxxMonde> I hate guns, but this makes me want to own one. 03:30 Pete_O> I can't ever see that happening here in the UK 03:30 dynamicism> Eh. I think it could happen anywhere. 03:30 Knobee> http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20219 03:30 Pete_O> Even when we had a power blackout across the whole of South London last year people just got on with life 03:30 MaxxMonde> Anyway, from a network engineer who's impressed you've kept it together, good job. Hope you're all going to be ok. 03:31 MaxxMonde* idles.....work. 03:31 k8to> pete: welcome to the channel. You're repeating a false comparison made many times already 03:31 GhostFreeman> I'd get one, only going to get worse 03:31 Pete_O> OK - explain 03:31 Pete_O> I understand that the infrastructure has collapsed, so no-one had food or anything 03:31 k8to> pete: london did not get flooded, lose power, phones, access to clean water, hvae the police force lose ability to communicate etc 03:31 dynamicism> Human beings quickly reduce themselves to barbarism it seems, when law enforcement falls apart and nobody is there to watch them. 03:31 Pete_O> Yes, I realise 03:31 Pete_O> Very William Golding 03:31 joshua> 80% of the city is destroyed. These people have lost everything, including family. There's no water, food, or electricity. It's mass chaos. 03:32 k8to> pete_O: i agree the reaction is shocking 03:32 k8to> pete_O: but I don't think you can compare it to most modern situations 03:32 k8to> there are a number of different factors 03:32 Pete_O> What's the situation on the ground now? Had the National Guard turned up yet? 03:32 Knobee> Tulane thing looks to be false. 03:32 joshua> Pete: Some. 20,000 more coming. 03:33 loranx> http://cryptome.org/kat01/katrina-01.htm 03:33 phreeB> nite ppls 03:33 Knobee> goodnight. 03:33 joshua> I can't find anything about Tulane other than your link. 03:34 k8to> hah someone compared the activity to the Raiders riots in oakland 03:34 Knobee> as I said -- they got cancelled. 03:34 Pete_O> Here's what the best of the UK press is reporting - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/americas/2005/hurricane_katrina/default.stm 03:34 Knobee> (follow to the end of the radioreference link) 03:34 GhostFreeman> Wikipedia has info on the Tulane situatiob 03:35 Pete_O> What's happening in Tulane? 03:35 Pete_O> Got a URL? 03:35 GhostFreeman> situation* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina#Looting_and_civil_disturbance 03:36 Knobee> Nothing is happing at Tulane. It was a false alarm. 03:36 Pete_O> K 03:37 logana|shower: is now known as loganattwood 03:37 Pete_O> I know this is a stupid question, but is there anything I can do IT wise here in the UK to help you guys out? 03:38 GhostFreeman> I'd imagine we'll need routers to restore that I2 outage. 03:38 joshua> How many casualties do you guys estimate? 03:39 Modus: is now known as ModusPwnens 03:39 GhostFreeman> other than that, mirrors for webcams, tv feeds, blogs, etc might also help 03:39 ModusPwnens> lost connection, #scanner has nobody transcribing right now 03:39 @ doofoo-> anyone want to? 03:39 joshua> my connection is behind. it seemed to have looped itself. 03:39 Pete_O> OK - email me at mail@peter-ould.net with what you need - I have a huge amount of bandwidth on my hosting so may be able to help out 03:40 ModusPwnens> I can continue but I need voice 03:40 Pete_O> Oh, has the webcam gone down - I'm getting nothing from it (a feed which is blank toi be specific) 03:40 @ doofoo-> done 03:42 @ loganattwood> lights are out 03:42 @ loganattwood> they're getting sleep iirc 03:42 @ doofoo-> yea. 03:42 ModusPwnens> if I drop again and start missing bits of chatter please yell out here so someone can pick up slack 03:42 Pete_O> Gotcha! - It's quarter to midday here in the UK 03:42 ModusPwnens> rgr that 03:42 @ doofoo-> will do. thanks 03:42 @ loganattwood> it's 5:42am there 03:42 ModusPwnens> Maybe I should get some sleep too then it's almost 6 AM 03:42 @ doofoo-> 6:42 here 03:42 @ loganattwood> it's 7:42am here 03:42 @ loganattwood> i haven't slept =) 03:42 Iambe> Good MOrning 03:43 Shandryl* breaks out the reserve doughnuts to go with the reserve caffeine 03:43 Khaz> mmm caffeine 03:43 Pete_O> Anybody fancy a nice virtual espresso? 03:43 @ loganattwood> i had 3 liters of tea 03:43 @ loganattwood> I'm good. 03:44 GhostFreeman> I could go for some tea actually 03:44 ModusPwnens> I think I have a phone interview for an internship tomorrow, explaining my lack of sleep will be very interesting :D 03:44 Pete_O> Hah!!!! 03:44 @ loganattwood> I only have tetley 03:44 Pete_O> I would tell them exactly what you've been doing 03:44 GhostFreeman> mountain dew is very unhealthy 03:44 @ loganattwood> ModusPwnens, that'll actually sound good for them =) 03:44 Pete_O> Can only look good 03:44 ModusPwnens> haha yeah 03:44 @ loganattwood> I'll back you up 03:44 Khaz> hehe just write it off as charity work modus :) 03:44 @ loganattwood> If need be 03:44 GhostFreeman> anyone have Earl Grey 03:44 Shandryl> hmmmm... $6 a gallon for diesel in Atlanta. The governor of Georgia has stated he'll enforce price fixing measures if stations keep gouging... 03:45 @ loganattwood> Like they'll pay any attention. 03:45 GhostFreeman> I got a better idea, give everyone a bike 03:45 ModusPwnens> wow the $7 roadside gas in NO doesn't sound so bad after that 03:45 GhostFreeman> it might help our obesity problem 03:45 Pete_O> I have hoards of Earl Grey, which I mix with Ceylon (it's a Brit thing y'know) 03:45 GhostFreeman> I'll take just the Earl, thank you 03:45 Pete_O> One virtual cup coming at ya 03:46 Blacklite: is now known as Blacklite|aslp 03:46 Shandryl> Night BL! 03:46 @ loganattwood> 'night 03:46 Aikau: is now known as Aikau|sleep 03:46 @ Blacklite|aslp> g'night, everyone 03:46 Khaz> this is really sad.. all this shit going on that needs some serious attention.. and cnn is reporting on gas prices 03:46 @ doofoo-> all these 10 codes! 03:47 Khaz> night blacklight 03:47 null_exe: is now known as null_exe|sleepi 03:47 Fyre> doofoo-: hold, searching for NOLA 10-code reference. 03:48 @ math> can someone stand up to be next in line for Scanner transcription please 03:48 @ math> help modus 03:48 @ math> so we have no break in scanner transcription. 03:48 @ math> btw, the log of the transcription is here: 03:48 @ math> nola.heavycomputing.ca 03:48 Khaz> i would... but i can't understand a word their saying most of the time 03:49 null_exe|sleepi> i would, but i'm waaaay too sleepy, i'd just fuck it all up 03:49 @ math> i gotta crash, someone help Modus -- logain... 03:49 @ math> loganattwood help find someone... 03:49 @ math> do the handoff 03:49 @ math> nite guys. 03:49 null_exe|sleepi> nite math 03:50 @ loganattwood> rgr 03:50 % Nox> http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm Louisiana Radio Codes and Signals 03:50 Knobee> what a mess. 03:50 Shandryl> Hmmmm... NORTHCOM has now been authorised for deployment 03:51 Fyre> crap. can't find NOLA 10's. sry. 03:51 Knobee> I'd love to take over with the scanner, but I have to get my kids ready for school. 03:51 Knobee> I'll help for a bit later in the day. 03:51 Modus> dang it I keep getting dropped 03:51 Modus> I have another incomplete backlog, but someone's gotta take over 03:51 @ loganattwood> op'd/ 03:52 Fyre> BINGO. Louisiana 10 codes, by agency/location: http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm 03:53 Jerub> if I can get on the scanner, I'll do some transcription 03:53 @ loganattwood> ask modus if he wants your help. 03:53 GhostFreeman> sounds like they're ready to go into a hospital 03:53 Jerub> Modus: do you want help? 03:54 @ loganattwood> do it via pm, he's concentraiting on #scanner 03:54 Fyre> which scanner are you guys listening to? Any of the links listed, or a specific one? 03:54 @ loganattwood> they're all the same. 03:54 dynamicism> Are there more than one scanner? 03:54 dynamicism> *Is there 03:54 Aikau|sleep> guess i'm not getting sleep 03:54 @ loganattwood> neg 03:54 Aikau|sleep: is now known as Aikau 03:54 Shandryl> There's State Police and City Police.... 03:54 Jerub> I'd like a code translation in #scanner too. 03:54 Aikau> brb... need caffeine and smokes and then i'll help scan. 03:55 Khaz> i'm listening to http://216.22.26.45:8002 has a little bit of a delay.. not sure what the main feed is 03:55 dynamicism> The scanner I'm on seems different than the one in #scanner 03:55 dynamicism> I'm hearing different things 03:55 Fyre> sounds like they're all mirrors of the same thing. 03:55 dynamicism> and it's a URL they don't have listed in the Topic 03:55 Knobee> http://205.252.89.181:8000/live.m3u 03:55 Knobee> that is the one from radioreference.com 03:55 Fyre* nods 03:56 Fyre> Hold on, the HoustonScan group sent out another one, earlier.. 03:56 @ loganattwood> please stay off that one 03:56 dynamicism> wy Logan? 03:56 @ loganattwood> because we're mirroring it 03:56 dynamicism> ok 03:56 @ loganattwood> why use their bandwidth when we have a 1000 slot server setup? 03:56 Fyre> nevermind, that was the one they sent. drat. 03:56 dynamicism> K, I switched to a mirror. 03:57 Jerub> 10-14 is an escort, and I'm listening to chatter about the busses. 03:58 Knobee> I'm not following the conversation... which one are you saying to NOT use (the one I posted?) and if so, what's the 1000 slot mirror server URL? 03:58 Aikau> http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner (1000 listeners max) 03:58 Knobee> ok. coll 03:58 Knobee> cool even 03:58 Jerub> 10-18, urgent first aid. 03:59 Fyre> if you guys can find a way for me to activate a shoutcast server without logging into my shell (damned admin cut my shell access), then I'll mirror as well. 03:59 Fyre> wait, nevermind. I know how I can. heh. cron. 03:59 Jerub* tries aikau's server. 03:59 Jerub> uhh 04:00 Jerub> modus isn't transcribing 04:00 Aikau> yeah. 04:00 Knobee> getting a 404 on http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner 04:00 Aikau> uhhh 04:00 Aikau> sec. 04:00 Aikau> http://wiki.your.org/index.php/Main_Page 04:00 loganattwood changed the topic of #interdictor to: official site: mgno.com or livejournal.com/interdictor | #scanner for transcript/URLs | pix: http://sigmund.biz/kat | Cant answer questions on DirectNic at this time, sorry. | http://wiki.nola-intel.org/ 04:00 jussiv> aikau stream doesnt work at oulu.fi 04:00 Aikau> there's the list of scanners. 04:00 Aikau> on http://wiki.your.org/index.php/Main_Page 04:00 ModusPwnens> same story, got a log, but someone has got to take over the transcription! 04:00 Jerub> did I just hear riflefire on the radio? 04:01 ModusPwnens> my router is dropping like mad and I can't replace it until tomorrow morning 04:01 % Nox> If you're getting a 404, the feeder is full. Select one of the other links. 04:01 Jerub> ModusPwnens: I'll take over for a while if I can get ops in #scanner 04:01 ModusPwnens> that's a neg. on the rifle fire, as far as I can tell 04:01 Jerub> okay. 04:02 Jerub> I tried a different feed, it must have been distortion. 04:02 Jerub> just as it started I thought I heard gunfire. 04:02 Aikau> changed wiki's? 04:03 Khaz> i get the same gunfire sound everytime i connect to the scanner shoutcast.. get that whenever i connect to most feeds via winamp 04:03 Khaz> so i wasn't to concerned hehe 04:04 Knobee> shift change -- 6:00am 04:05 GhostFreeman> im getting tired 04:05 frigo> hi 04:09 Hynes> hi lol 04:09 Hynes> i've kinda been lurking.... reading 04:09 Hynes> quite interesting 04:09 Alx> what's the local time at NO? 04:09 Hynes> dunno 04:09 Hynes> :( 04:10 Hynes> what's their GMT, any idea? 04:10 ByterNZ-A> 6:14 CDT 04:10 ByterNZ-A> am 04:10 Hynes> central 04:10 Alx> oki, thx :) 04:10 ByterNZ-A> (11:14 pm in New Zealand, September 1st) 04:10 frigo> is really NO under martial law ? 04:10 Alx> 1pm in France 04:10 @ loganattwood> frakk, no because they don't have it in state law 04:10 Khaz> cnn says the current deathtoll is 185 and expected to increase 04:11 dynamicism> There is no law in NO. 04:11 ByterNZ-A> My parents should NOT be trying to drive back from Chicago to West Palm Beach.. 04:11 dynamicism> The inmates have overrun the asylum. 04:11 Hynes> lol, no law indeed. 04:11 ^i^> I think what the officials claim the state of affairs is (state of emergency/martial law) is academic if noone enforces it 04:11 frigo> yeah but i mean "theoricaly" 04:12 ^i^> martial law isn't a term that appears in that state's laws 04:12 ^i^> they just have state of emergency 04:12 frigo> i think it'd be a first to have a martial law run on a civilian population in the us 04:12 frigo> ok 04:12 ByterNZ-A> How long is WWLTV going to be able to keep broadcasting COMMERCIAL FREE? They're not making any money right now 04:13 Aikau> from wikipedia: Contrary to many media reports, martial law has not been declared in New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, because no such term exists in Louisiana state law[4]. Rather, a state of emergency has been declared, which does give some powers similar to that of martial law. On the evening of August 31, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin did declare "martial law" (in name at least) in the city and said that "officer 04:13 Aikau> s don't have to worry about civil rights and Miranda rights in stopping the looters. 04:14 ^i^> quite frankly as soon as the looters saw the cops taking stuff (either justified or as a result of their own greed) all hell was bound to break loose 04:14 ModusPwnens> I got a backlog that goes between my last cut-out and when Jerub took over -- should I do anything with it 04:14 Jerub> ModusPwnens: yeah, paste it if you can. 04:14 Jerub> just say it's from before I started 04:14 Aikau> he needs voice 04:14 comppimp> anyone else seen that clip with the female reporter and the guy with his kids talking about how he was holding his wife's hand and he just couldnt hold on any longer, and then the reporter started to break down? 04:14 Aikau> yeah 04:15 comppimp> which channel was that reporter from 04:15 Aikau> think it was CNN that showed it 04:15 Fyre> loganattwood: I'm attempting to set up a mirror on my sc server. Any idea how I should set up the relay information? Evidentally I'm not setting it up correctly, as I'm not having success. 04:15 Aikau> other than that, i don't know 04:15 ^i^> is there any truth to the fact that noone seems to have bothered getting the National Guard fully prepped until the storm actually hit NO? Seems like someone forgot to tell them they might be needed. 04:15 comppimp> well most everyone has shown it, but i looked at the mic and it had a "5" on it so it looked to be a local station 04:16 Aikau> i can't remember, comppimp... haven't seen the clip in a while 04:17 @ loganattwood> Fyre, what are you trying to relayt? 04:17 Aikau> i: fema apparently had things set up prior to the storm, but when it comes to the numbers of national guard on standby, i'm not sure. 04:17 Fyre> the radioreference stream. 04:17 @ loganattwood> oh 04:17 @ loganattwood> we have 1500 slots man 04:17 Fyre* raises an eyebrow. 04:17 Fyre> anywhere near capacity, yet? heh. 04:18 @ doofoo-> no.. 04:18 @ doofoo-> lol 04:18 Fyre* shrugs 04:18 comppimp> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4197200.stm 04:18 @ doofoo-> my 500 stream server is only at like 50 04:18 comppimp> "still visibly shaken Mr Jackson told America's ABC television. " 04:18 comppimp> theres a gazillion abc affiliates though =\ 04:18 Fyre> okay then for future reference, how would I set that up? Given that I only have options for relayserver and relayport. set relayport to: 8000/live ? 04:19 @ loganattwood> make that 2700 slots 04:19 @ doofoo-> yeah.. lol 2700 04:20 @ loganattwood> 3k slots if you include the actual server 04:20 @ loganattwood> along with relays 04:21 comppimp> ah, the station was WKRG btw 04:23 Fyre> fuck. the only problem with no shell access is that I can't sighup the server. 04:23 comppimp> http://www.wkrg.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WKRG/Page/KRG_ContentPage&c=Page&cid=1057583191723 04:23 comppimp> that was the reporter 04:23 Aikau> ahh 04:23 joshua> apparantly transport from NO to Houston is on hold... 04:24 ModusPwnens> the scanner sure got busy all of a sudden 04:24 joshua> there's a fire at the superdome, maybe... 04:24 ModusPwnens> yeah 04:24 ModusPwnens> gate a 04:24 dynamicism> Heh, holy shit. 04:24 Aikau> what's NOFD's code 2? 04:24 dynamicism> I wonder how a fire got started 04:24 ModusPwnens> anyone know what these bulldog talk and pelican talk units would be? 04:25 ModusPwnens> "defender 6 this is bulldog talk" <--- who on earth are they with 04:25 dynamicism> I'm assuming those are just aliases 04:25 joshua> pelican is apparantly the governor. 04:25 comppimp> whos covering the fire? what news channel? 04:25 dynamicism> Nicknames 04:25 joshua> bulldog might be the general. 04:25 joshua> comppimp: scanners. 04:25 Knobee> fire @ gate A 04:25 Jerub> is it bulldog car or talk? 04:25 comppimp> oh, had it paused for a sec 04:26 ModusPwnens> oh the gate A and garbage chute fires are the same 04:26 Knobee> ooh, that's not good. 04:26 ModusPwnens> probably better than two fires :x 04:26 Knobee> true 04:26 joshua> No running water at the superdome, right? 04:26 Knobee> but the garbage-chute fire... ugh. 04:26 Aikau> right 04:26 joshua> shit. 04:26 dynamicism> How many people are still at the superdome? 04:26 Knobee> the stench has to be bad already... 04:27 Aikau> no station reporting on the shot national guard? 04:27 ModusPwnens> CONFIRMED superdome 04:27 Aikau> gate h? 04:27 ModusPwnens> they are evacuating gate h 04:27 joshua> no reports on major media about the shooting, yet. 04:27 Jerub> anyone wanna take over? 04:27 ModusPwnens> Jerub is a little behind the feed but he's doing a nice job of getting it all in over at #scanner 04:27 Aikau> yeah 04:27 joshua> i'm more behind than he is. 04:27 Aikau> he's a minute or so behind 04:28 joshua> well yeah...he's typing. 04:28 Aikau> him and i figured it out earlier... he's delayed 04:28 ModusPwnens> you can't get behind while typing the feed, because you can't store a minute of convorsation in your head :\ the feeds just aren't synched 04:28 dynamicism> 26 floors, shit 04:28 Aikau> damn... 04:28 Knobee> that's trouble. 04:28 joshua> CNN is reporting that buses from superdome to astrodome are on hold...people are shooting at the chinook helicopters that are escourting. 04:29 Jerub> Aikau: wanna take over? 04:29 dynamicism> god, wtf 04:29 % Nox> Joy, trying to burn down the superdome. As if there isn't enough destruction 04:29 dynamicism> That's so senseless 04:29 Aikau> i'm way ahead, but i'll give it a shot. 04:29 ModusPwnens> there's a pause now, good time to switch 04:29 cavortingmonkey> God, this makes me cry. 04:29 Aikau> can't promise i'll be any good. 04:29 ^i^> shooting at the chinooks, man, these people don't have two braincells to rub together, do they? 04:30 ModusPwnens> is that confirmed? 04:30 Jerub> Aikau: shoot 04:30 ModusPwnens> aikau you'll be fine 04:30 cavortingmonkey> CNNHN has the shooting on now. 04:30 Knobee> Nagin seems to be one of the coolest people I've ever seen. 04:30 Jerub> I'm in a big silent patch, just start. 04:30 ModusPwnens> I'll keep up a log just in case, but my router is on the fritz 04:30 kerskine> WRT the fire - could be caused by someone throwing a lit cigarette butt into the chute 04:30 Alx> what is NOSD? 04:31 ModusPwnens> New Orleans XXX Department? 04:31 Knobee> New Orleans Sheriff's Department? 04:31 Aikau> NOFD. 04:31 Alx> ok, thx 04:31 Knobee> New Orl. Fire Department 04:31 Eimann> Is there a CNN Webstream available? I've no TV here :-/ 04:31 ^i^> It was probably FD as people are saying 04:31 ModusPwnens> okay so shots were fired at the dome, the busses stoped evac, and now there is a fire there 04:31 Aikau> you'll find out more here than you will there, eimann 04:32 Jerub> might have been F. 04:32 Knobee> FoxNews is now showing video of Astrodome -- busses are arriving. 04:32 Eimann> Aikau: Ok ;) 04:32 ^i^> I can't see them using SD and FD over the radio, they sound too alike 04:32 ^i^> surely? 04:32 ^i^> unless you're supposed to make an educated guess based on context 04:33 Jerub> I'm too used to australian CB standards, this is all weird for me. 04:33 Knobee> usually the two would not share radio comms... 8( 04:33 ^i^> there is that 04:33 Knobee> How would lyou like to be called Pelican 3-Alpha? hahaha. 04:33 Knobee> poor guy. 04:33 ^i^> :P 04:33 % Nox> Pelican 1, I believe, is the Governor. 04:33 Knobee> Eagle == cool.. 04:33 Knobee> Pelican == uncool. 04:33 Jerub> I know rural fire brigate radio ettiquette. this is sooo different. 04:34 joshua> i'd like the handle "MultipleOrgasmMachine" 04:34 Knobee> haha.. 04:34 dynamicism> MOM 04:34 Aikau> lol 04:34 joshua> ha 04:34 dynamicism> ammunition support eh 04:35 Knobee> scary... 04:35 ^i^> aviation I thought 04:35 Aikau> gah, this is harder than i thought 04:35 ModusPwnens> it's tough! 04:35 dynamicism> oh, aviation support 04:35 ModusPwnens> I was really nervous when I started too 04:35 dynamicism> that makes more sense 04:35 Aikau> sounded like ammunition 04:35 Aikau> heh 04:35 ^i^> I'm struggling in general with the accent ;) 04:36 Aikau> me too 04:36 Aikau> and i live in texas. 04:36 ^i^> I'm a tad further away 04:36 Jerub> I'm australian, and the accent's not bad. 04:36 Fyre> Aikau: oh yeah, where? 04:36 Aikau> shit lost feed 04:36 Aikau> fucking itunes. 04:36 Fyre> on it, aikau.. let me know when you re-aquire. 04:36 ModusPwnens> (...) the plow control detail on i10 causeway, lets see if we can secure those gates see if those gates are locked 04:36 ^i^> dude 04:36 ^i^> crowd control 04:36 Fyre> nevermind. 04:36 ModusPwnens> haha 04:36 ^i^> I doubt there's any unruly plows that need controling 04:36 Knobee> crowd control... hah.. might need a plow. 04:36 ModusPwnens> tried to pick up in the middle :/ 04:36 dynamicism> yeah my iTunes craps out occaisonally too 04:36 Knobee> might USE a plow. 04:37 ModusPwnens> that's what you get 04:37 ModusPwnens> if I was in charge I'd get things DONE 04:37 Fyre* kicks winamp 04:37 ^i^> lol 04:37 ModusPwnens> special needs busses in the way? PLOW EM 04:37 Aikau> ;alksdjfa;lskdjf 04:37 Knobee> fox is showing the bottom of the superdome -- water is down 5 inches from yesterday. 04:38 joshua> Fox new's coverage of this has been outstanding. 04:38 ^i^> would a rendition of the mr plow song from the simpsons be unnecessary? :) 04:38 Khaz> lol 04:38 ModusPwnens> Fox new's coverage of this has been outstanding. <-- does not compute 04:38 comppimp> they have the most reporters of anyone in NO itself 04:38 InsomniaCity> erm, the changing title of the audio stream, does that reflect who is speaking? 04:38 Knobee> better than CNN (from what I've watched) 04:38 ModusPwnens> "Water down 5 inches from yesterday? Is the flooding a flip-flopper? 04:39 Aikau> heh... i've avoided fox... is it that good? 04:39 dynamicism> I like Fox's coverage better than the others 04:39 hoodah> hey man, steve from Australia here 04:39 dynamicism> but that's not saying much, because all the stations have been kind of lousy. 04:39 Knobee> lake is going down from storm-surge levels. 04:39 hoodah> damn sad about N'Orleans 04:39 hoodah> love the place 04:39 Knobee> fire spreading. 04:39 % Nox> I have to give it to CNN, though. They've been live 24/7 since Sunday, when others have gone to replays. 04:39 dynamicism> Fire is spreading 04:39 Khaz> i'm trying to avoid cnn's coverage.. it seems their more worried about the gas prices more than they are the people in NO 04:39 hoodah> sad 04:39 joshua> aikau: shepard smith has been in NOLA since before the storm. yesterday he interviewed a guy who's spent two days dragging people out of their homes to high gronud. 04:40 Knobee> pelican a-jock? 04:40 Aikau> motherfucking feed won't come back 04:40 joshua> khas: CNN is liberally biased...high gas = bad economy. if clinton were in office, fox would be doing the same. 04:40 Knobee> pelican-A talk. 04:40 Knobee> not jock. 8-) 04:40 Aikau> i've listend for 6 hours no problem... i take over and it goes to shit 04:40 Khaz> true 04:40 ModusPwnens> PELICAN JOCK MAN THE PLOW CONTROLS 04:40 Knobee> hahaha.. 04:40 dynamicism> haha 04:40 joshua> hahaha 04:40 joshua> that guy is the bitch of the National Guard. 04:41 ModusPwnens> that guy does does sound like he's saying jock 04:41 Knobee> heck, it is Pelican Jock. 04:41 InsomniaCity> agree 04:41 hoodah> anyone here actually communicating from NO? 04:41 Khaz> who the hell is pelican jock lol 04:41 Aikau> they're asleep 04:41 ^i^> hoodah: there's a scanner stream up 04:41 Khaz> and who the hell gave him that name 04:41 hoodah> only on dial up sorry 04:41 dynamicism> Who's National Guard? "The Plow"? lol 04:41 InsomniaCity> what is New Orleans L & O ? 04:41 Knobee> now, Eagle Jock -- that would be a cool name. 8-) 04:41 ^i^> hoodah: it's a 32kbps stream 04:41 hoodah> K 04:41 hoodah> thanks 04:41 ^i^> you can probably just squeeze that down dialup 04:42 hoodah> just... 04:42 ^i^> hoodah: look on http://wiki.your.org/index.php/Main_Page 04:42 Eimann> http://mirrors.rrbone.net/directnic-pictures/ 04:42 Aikau> i guess pelican b/c it's the state bird of louisiana 04:42 hoodah> were in NO in 1998 04:42 hoodah> all the way from Oz 04:42 hoodah> thank you 04:42 ByterNZ-A> It's almost 7 am...I thought without power that you'd go to bed real early and wake up real early. 04:42 comppimp> they just gave an update on the hardy jackson guy that reporter interviewed on WKRG 04:42 comppimp> they found the body of the guy's wife 04:42 hoodah> I hope they rebuild your city 04:42 comppimp> they were married for 29 years 04:42 Aikau> that sucks, comppimp 04:43 Khaz> still.. i don't think i could refer to myself as "pelican jock" without crying, laughing, or sighing in despair 04:43 Fyre> a status on the WHAT? (Yeah, that's what I said) 04:43 comppimp> the body is in a morgue though 40 miles away waiting to be identified, the guy was going to walk there but the reporter made arragements to travel with the tv crew over there 04:43 hoodah> we are apparently sending our people over to help if we can, we get cyclones all the time 04:43 InsomniaCity> maybe Pelican Jock is expanded PJ 04:43 Knobee> oh, that's BAD... 04:43 hoodah> same as your hurricanes but in southern hemisphere 04:44 Knobee> PJs are bad mofos. 04:44 hoodah> one destroyed the capital of one of our States 04:44 Knobee> If he wanted to be called Pelican Jock, so be it. 8-) 04:44 hoodah> it tears me up seeing what happened 04:44 hoodah> we stayed in Decatur 04:44 Knobee* will be leaving with Red Cross for whatever is needed on October 9. 04:44 hoodah> not many fuckers around here have been in NO 04:44 hoodah> but we have 04:45 Aikau> you stayed on decatur? 04:45 Khaz> i wish i could fly down there and give a hand with... something 04:45 hoodah> yes right on the outskirts 04:45 hoodah> between the street and your tenements 04:45 Eimann> Streamrelay: http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 and http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3.m3u 04:45 dynamicism> expanded PJ? 04:45 Khaz> this just seems like complete anarchy.. 04:45 joshua> can the NOFD even use hoses? is there any running water? 04:46 hoodah> I fucking love NO 04:46 dynamicism> It pretty much is complete anarchy 04:46 ModusPwnens> what is this trigger that plow guy wants to pull 04:46 Aikau> if they can, how are they going to get into the chute? 04:46 Fyre> joshua: hell with hoses. They have pumper trucks, and there seems to be a surplus of water......... 04:46 hoodah> it and Amsterdam are the two best cities in teh world 04:46 InsomniaCity> dynamicism: well, if the guy was called PJ, or whatever... if they were using an odd radio alphabet 04:46 bitcop> they were pumping from the streets last night 04:46 Knobee> pump from the street... 04:46 Jerub> trucks have compressors 04:46 joshua> ahhh i gtocha. 04:46 hoodah> jeesus 04:46 Knobee> pumps, not compressors. 8-) 04:46 hoodah> you need to find out who let this happen 04:46 hoodah> and punish them 04:46 ModusPwnens> Fyre: that water has all kinds of gas and flammible things in it though, doesn't it? 04:46 Knobee> hoodah: God allowed this to happen. 04:46 Aikau> who let the hurricane happen? 04:46 hoodah> no 04:46 Khaz> what? who let a hurrican hit louisiana? 04:46 hoodah> bad planning 04:47 Khaz> it was the terrorists.. i blame bin ladin 04:47 hoodah> even in WWII the dykes in Holland never breached 04:47 Aikau> louisiana isn't known for its brain trust. 04:47 Knobee> the idiots that built a major city below sea level. 04:47 Knobee> they are dead. 04:47 Fyre> ModusPwnens: hmmm... good question. 04:47 hoodah> Napolen built it below sea level 04:47 Knobee> Holland had a major disaster in .. uh .. 1939? 04:47 jussiv> is someone ripping the mp3 stream or recording? 04:47 dynamicism> The gasoline and flammables in the water are too diluted to ignite. 04:47 Jerub> can someone take over? 04:47 Knobee> (damn french.. knew it was their fault somehow. 8-) 04:47 hoodah> breached some but not many 04:47 Aikau> not sure, jussiv 04:47 Jerub> Aikau: ? 04:47 jussiv> ok, i am 04:47 InsomniaCity> Jerub: I could try, but not sure how good I am 04:47 hoodah> are you guys there right now? 04:47 Aikau> i can't even get a fucking stream 04:48 % Nox> Have you tried all the links? 04:48 Nite_Sleep: is now known as Nite_Hawk 04:48 Aikau> they time out. 04:48 ModusPwnens> is anyone online to give voice? 04:48 InsomniaCity> I am... 04:48 InsomniaCity> but Ive never done it before 04:48 Khaz> bulldog.. now theres a name.. 04:48 ModusPwnens> no some op has to voice you :( 04:48 Nite_Hawk> you need to be an op... 04:49 dynamicism> Foxhunt? 04:49 % Nox> Do you need voice in #scanner to transcribe, Modus? 04:49 hoodah> how many dead do you think? 04:49 InsomniaCity> ModusPwnens: any rules? I noticed you were cutting locations 04:49 hoodah> in the thousands? 04:49 Khaz> cnn reported 185 as of 30mins ago i believe 04:49 ModusPwnens> you need voice to transcribe 04:49 Knobee> I'm guessing 4k 04:49 ModusPwnens> no rules, just get as much as you can down 04:49 Aikau> nox: please give some more voices for transcribing 04:49 hoodah> 185 my arse 04:50 ModusPwnens> (unt) means you couldn't tell what it was, ... means you skipped stuff, comments go in parenthesis 04:50 Khaz> thats just what cnn says *shrug* 04:50 hoodah> I think you are looking at a huge number mostly submerged 04:50 hoodah> who is there? 04:50 ModusPwnens> if I skiped a place name it's because I didn't recognize it in time to type it in :\ 04:50 Khaz> i think thats just confirmed hoodah 04:50 Knobee> perps that went into their attics when the water came up. 04:50 Knobee> attics with no exits. 04:50 Khaz> they won't know for sure until everything is over and done with 04:50 hoodah> i see 04:50 hoodah> the tsunami started with about 50 04:50 Knobee> already seen video of the chopper guys cutting roofs to get people out. 04:51 hoodah> a lot will have been lost out at sea 04:51 % Nox> one sec 04:51 hoodah> i read that sharks have been sighted in the streets 04:51 Knobee> nah, not at sea on this one. 04:51 Knobee> the out-flow didn't exist... 04:51 Knobee> it all went in... nothing came out. 04:51 hoodah> so they are weighted down with debris 04:51 InsomniaCity> Jerub: you want me to take over if I get voice? 04:51 Knobee> nice thing about being a bowl. 04:51 hoodah> rubble and mud and shit 04:51 hoodah> not good 04:51 Jerub> InsomniaCity: yes. 04:52 hoodah> it looks deep around 3 ro 4 metres by the looks of things 04:52 Nite_Hawk> christ that's a bad situation. 04:52 Jerub> ModusPwnens: I'll stop when you start 04:52 hoodah> thats a drowning depth when exhaustion sets in 04:53 % Nox> You still have voice, Aikau 04:53 Knobee> break break break 04:53 comppimp> uh oh 04:53 Knobee> bad... 04:53 hoodah> its tropical there i remember the heat 04:53 hoodah> that means cholera when the bodies start to disintegrate 04:53 hoodah> and typhoid 04:53 hoodah> possibly plague 04:53 Knobee> firetruck won't make it. -- stuck in deep water 04:53 ModusPwnens> HOLY SHIT 04:53 hoodah> if you have rodents and so on there 04:53 % Nox> That's not good for the stadium. 04:53 comppimp> this could get ugly 04:53 Knobee> that guy is in TROUBLE 04:53 comppimp> "do you need them armed" 04:53 ModusPwnens> DO YOU NEED THEM ARMED OR NOT ARMED 04:53 comppimp> "they probably need to be armed" 04:53 dynamicism> they probabkly need to be armed 04:53 Knobee> armed... 04:53 % Nox> Armed perferrably. 04:53 Knobee> oh shit. 04:53 % Nox> Heh 04:54 dynamicism> hmmm 04:54 ^i^> like they need to be anything but armed 04:54 joshua> oh my god. 04:54 % Nox> Precisely. 04:54 InsomniaCity> Nox: want to +v me? 04:54 ^i^> what kind of a question is that 04:54 ^i^> "HI WE HAVE SOME GUYS WITH PEASHOOTERS, WILL THEY HELP?" @:Z 04:54 Knobee> if you don't have a gun, you can help more with people 04:54 hoodah> are there epidemiologists there? 04:54 dynamicism> i wonder what the fuck is going on 04:54 % Nox> rgr 04:54 Knobee> with a gun, you have to keep contact with the gun and not people. 04:54 Knobee> it is a legit question. 04:54 Aikau> like a damn marathon doing the transcribing 04:54 Aikau> i could never be a court reporter. 04:54 ModusPwnens> 10 MPs not MDs right? 04:54 cavortingmonkey> "Hi, you bad people. I know I don't have a gun, but you're just going to stop that naughty stuff, ain'tcha?" 04:54 InsomniaCity> P 04:55 hoodah> Bush has spent around 250 billion on Iraq, surely they can throw 30 or 40 into this 04:55 Jerub> I *know* a court reporter. 04:55 Knobee> get off the politics, hooha. 04:55 hoodah> shit you are talking guns here, and I am only talking money 04:55 Knobee> bush is not a gun nor a dollar. 04:55 hoodah> money can fix this up 04:56 hoodah> he is both 04:56 Knobee> no, money can not help this. 04:56 Knobee> this is a crisis of humanity. 04:56 ^i^> or lack thereof 04:56 hoodah> it can, i have been to your city, it is a fabulous city and it ran on money i remember 04:56 hoodah> and voodoo 04:56 % Nox> Crisis of civilization, really. 04:56 hoodah> no only in your neck of the woods 04:56 dynamicism> Why in the fuck is the word Iraq even being mentioned right now? 04:56 dynamicism> Shut up. 04:56 Aikau> the point is, there isn't any political discussion in here 04:57 hoodah> ok point taken 04:57 dynamicism> This isn't the time for political bullshit 04:57 hoodah> because we and Britain are your closest friends 04:57 ^i^> dynamicism: it's inevitable when it looks like the government arent putting enough resources in, and all people see of the US recently is the shit in iraq 04:57 hoodah> and because how many other Australians are taking the trouble here to sympathise 04:57 dynamicism> Well, we need your help, not your criticism 04:57 hoodah> if I could I would 04:57 InsomniaCity> gah, this is hard.. 04:57 ^i^> but just asking people to keep off the topic should keep things under control :) 04:57 hoodah> I am in Perth in Western AUsrtlaia 04:57 Aikau> yeah it is, IC... 04:57 Knobee> OMG.. this is like black-hawk down... 04:57 dynamicism> i: People see what they want to see, apparently. 04:57 hoodah> I will keep off sorry 04:58 ^i^> dynamicism: well yes, everyone does that :) 04:58 ^i^> it's called selective sight/hearing 04:58 hoodah> I truly am sorry about what has happened 04:58 Knobee> We are asking for manpower -- eoc passes info on -- how long till something actually happens? 04:58 hoodah> it is sad 04:58 Khaz> what new louisiana needs right now is manpower.. anything else would be nice.. butnear as helpful as more hands 04:58 Aikau> never been to perth, hoodah... been up and down queensland and NSW tho.. 04:58 Nite_Hawk> has anyone here heard much new information in the last 5 hours? 04:58 % Nox> The Superdome is on fire. 04:58 burnout> wouldn't they be sleeping in the last 5 hours 04:58 Aikau> in a garbage chute 04:58 hoodah> our Prime Minister stated he has send our disaster people over to help 04:58 burnout> it's 5am here... 04:58 burnout> ...in california. 04:59 hoodah> is the Superdome burning truly? 04:59 InsomniaCity> hoodah: which PM? 04:59 hoodah> fuck me 04:59 InsomniaCity> hoodah: yep 04:59 InsomniaCity> 26 _ floors above Gate A 04:59 Khaz> yes theres a fire in a garbage chute 04:59 hoodah> ours, John Howard 04:59 % Nox> They started a fire in a garage chute, and the fire is spreading. Fire truck cannot get there yet, as it cannot find a road without deep water. 04:59 burnout> who is "they" 04:59 Nite_Hawk> burnout: I certainly was. That's why I'm asking. :) 04:59 % Nox> The refugees 04:59 Knobee> yes, the superdome has a fire in a garbage chute -- no firetrucks on scene because of high water. 04:59 joshua> sounds like people are crowding around the gate. they're wanting armed MPs there immediately. serious situation. 04:59 burnout> hmm 04:59 kerskine> Nox: this could be accidental 04:59 Khaz> they were also firing shots at a rescue helecoptor 04:59 burnout> do i want to ask "why" 04:59 Nite_Hawk> Nox: any links? 05:00 Khaz> its like they don't want help.. 05:00 % Nox> No media is reporting this, information is coming from the louisiana scanner. 05:00 ^i^> I'd imagine the fire is quite possibly accidental 05:00 Khaz* boggles at the thought 05:00 joshua> #scanner for transcripts. 05:00 hoodah> it is like an Apocalypse 05:00 ^i^> it could be caused by anything 05:00 % Nox> Considering they were firing at helicopters, shot a soldier, and are near all-out riot... I'm not one to give a benefit of the doubt on this. 05:00 hoodah> they are saying here in Austrlalia that this will throw the world into a recession 05:00 Khaz* agrees with nox 05:00 ^i^> the people outside the dome and the people inside the dome are different groups though, arent they? 05:01 InsomniaCity> no idea 05:01 Knobee> I'm in North Carolina and we are being told that fuel is going to be in short supply. 05:01 Khaz> people in a panic are people in a panic regardless of where they are i 05:01 Alx> where are the jails prisoners, are they still near the superdome or were they transfered last days? 05:01 hoodah> about 10 or 12% of US processing capacity has been lost 05:01 hoodah> something like 30 rigs lost 05:01 Knobee> Hurricane Katrina: USFA Request to Mobilize Fire Service Members 05:01 hoodah> sunk 05:01 % Nox> The prisoners were still on the off-ramp, last I saw. 05:02 Knobee> Alx: they let many of them go 05:02 hoodah> I come from North Queensland where there are 3 or 4 cyclones every year 05:02 hoodah> never ever anything like this 05:02 Knobee> The current need is for 1,000 two-person teams. A department may offer 05:02 Knobee> more than one two-person team. These people will be deployed as a team, 05:02 Knobee> and we prefer that they know one another prior to deployment. 05:02 hoodah> THEY LET THE CONS GO??!! 05:02 Aikau> yes. 05:02 hoodah> you are joking 05:02 Aikau> no. 05:02 hoodah> you guys have some of the worst of the worst 05:03 % Nox> Firetruck cannot get through, they're walking equipment. 05:03 hoodah> like that cop chick who capped the Vietnamese 05:03 Pete_O> Checking back in from the UK 05:03 Knobee> yes, the cons are gone. 05:03 Pete_O> Anything new? 05:03 Aikau> superdome on fire 05:03 hoodah> migod 05:03 Aikau> that's about all you missed. 05:03 Pete_O> Superdome arsoned? 05:03 Aikau> possibly 05:03 Khaz> not confirmed arson 05:03 hoodah> how many people are in there? 05:03 Knobee> not arson -- just a fire. 05:03 burnout> <^i^> the people outside the dome and the people inside the dome are different 05:03 burnout> groups though, arent they? 05:03 Knobee> don't start rumors. 05:04 Knobee> we know there is a fire. that is all. 05:04 % Nox> A soldier was shot at 1am. Helicopters fired at over night. Near riots outside superdome. And now fire in a garbage chute. 05:04 burnout> reminds me of mad max II 05:04 % Nox> Think that's all. 05:04 ^i^> hoodah: the problem you have is that they had a handful of guards 05:04 hoodah> hey mad max good australian movie 05:04 burnout> definately reminds me of mad max II 05:04 ^i^> and say 200 prisoners sat on the offramp 05:04 hoodah> but your cons are baaaaaad 05:04 ^i^> I wouldn't fancy those odds 05:04 Knobee> and all the free guns ... nice mix 05:04 hoodah> hopefully only low security they let go 05:04 Khaz> was it a max security prison? 05:04 ^i^> I doubt it was max security 05:04 hoodah> not the death row and so on 05:05 hoodah> some of those ppl dont give a shit 05:05 burnout> huh... 05:05 burnout> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/08/30/katrinas_real_name/ 05:05 Khaz> i highly doubt they would let maxsec prisoners out like that... maybe a minimum 05:05 hoodah> how is the QUarter going? I heard it was on higher land 05:05 Aikau> quarter is dry 05:05 hoodah> excellent 05:05 hoodah> those old building must be protected 05:06 Khaz> this is going to put a real damper on next mardi gras 05:06 hoodah> and Ignatius on Canal? 05:06 burnout> khaz: nah, the streets are clean of donkey dung now 05:06 % Nox> You sure the French Quarter is dry? Last I heard it was flooded with 2 feet. Has it receeded? 05:06 Dean_C> wtf is this is #scanner? 05:06 burnout> they make your head explode 05:06 hoodah> there will not be a mardi gras for years and years 05:06 Knobee> lost my scanner feed. 05:06 % Nox> #scanner is the channel where the Louisiana scanner is being transcribed. 05:06 hoodah> you will need to rebuild 05:06 InsomniaCity> Dean_C: im transcribing the radio chatter 05:06 Dean_C> people are typing it all out? 05:07 burnout> ther'es always Savannah 05:07 hoodah> or the city will disappear 05:07 Jerub> Dean_C: #scanner 05:07 Dean_C> lol rather you than me InsomniaCity 05:07 Dean_C> i'm listening to it, nothing too interesting 05:07 % Nox> It's been transcribed by several people over the night 05:07 hoodah> any cops on this chan at the moment? 05:07 k8to> burnout: is tehre anything that supports this editorial? 05:07 hoodah> NO cops i mean? 05:07 Aikau> pretty sure they're busy, hoodah 05:08 hoodah> yeah I guess 05:08 Jerub> Dean_C: apart from the fire in the superdome. 05:08 hoodah> is it martial law yet? 05:08 Eimann> what does (unt) mean? 05:08 hoodah> fire on looters? 05:08 Knobee> untranslated 05:08 Khaz> there isn't really any law what so ever right now hoodah.. let alone martial law 05:08 Eimann> Knobee: ah, ok, then i'm right thanks 05:08 Aikau> there is no martial law in louisiana, hoodah 05:08 hoodah> it is a federal concept 05:09 hoodah> army 05:09 Aikau> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law#Hurricane_Katrina 05:09 Jerub> what happened to the dude who shot the sodlier? 05:09 Aikau> not sure, jerub 05:09 % Nox> Lousiana has no martial law in their constitution. There is a state of emergency, which pretty much is similar. 05:09 k8to> Aikau: right, because wikipedia is the authority, and also because this distinction is really important! 05:09 comppimp> last i heard they arrested him i think 05:09 Aikau> was just trying to clear it up k8to. 05:10 hoodah> haha wiki is open to anyone's editing 05:10 Knobee> that's the definition of a wiki, hoodah. 05:10 hoodah> sure is 05:10 hoodah> how are you guys powering your comps? 05:11 burnout> wiki == HHG2G, "wildly innaccurate but cheap" 05:11 InsomniaCity> lemon juice 05:11 Aikau> not all of us are in new orleans, hoodah. 05:11 Khaz> this is crazy.. i'm still trying to figure out why anyone would openly attack police and other emergency personel 05:11 InsomniaCity> I'm in the UK 05:11 ModusPwnens> <-- Iowa 05:11 hoodah> i realise that but some of you are 05:11 Jerub> burnout: the directnic guys have a diesel. read the blog. 05:11 hoodah> ok 05:11 jussiv> <-- Finland 05:11 hoodah> General Mannerheim no less 05:11 Knobee> still trying to get firefighters in... urgh. 05:11 ByterNZ-A> <--- New Zealand 05:12 jussiv> heh 05:12 ByterNZ-A> (Christchurch) 05:12 hoodah> thought you might like that one 05:12 joshua> if the crowd refuses to disperse...this could get very dangerous. 05:12 hoodah> fuck the russians 05:12 hoodah> kiwi 05:12 k8to> <- Oakland, CA 05:12 hoodah> you a maori? 05:12 burnout> k8to: i think the editorial is crap, global warming is not an issue, and if it is an issue, it's just you know another 05:12 ModusPwnens> I commandeered two high water vehicles I don't know who they belonged to but they are headed over there now 05:12 ModusPwnens> (lol) 05:12 burnout> excecise in human adaptability 05:12 hoodah> got an aunt in Mountanview 05:12 burnout> bah, eastbay ;-P 05:12 ModusPwnens> that cracked me up 05:12 Khaz> right on for grand theft boat! :P 05:13 ByterNZ-A> Nope, I'm an ex-american. (Moved from the USA back in 2000) 05:13 hoodah> like it there lots of Australian eucap;ypts 05:13 k8to> burnout: wikis aren't necessarily inaccurate. the linked article is clear 05:13 hoodah> and thats where Sonny Barger came from 05:13 burnout> k8to the global warming article didn't quite seem to have alot of .. fact behind it 05:13 hoodah> haha 05:13 k8to> burnout: the editorial, on the other hand, which is not on a wiki site, has no supporting argument or evidence at all 05:14 burnout> yeah those eucalyptus trees are lame, tend to explode when on fire 05:14 Knobee> I heard the other day that Mars is heating up... must be from the rover emissions... 05:14 hoodah> but it is global warming we are feeling it here in Australia really baaaad droughts 05:14 burnout> k8to: the editorial thing is hysteria 05:14 burnout> k8to: it's the same thing as ppl blaming katrina on a gay pride festival 05:14 hoodah> but our cyclones are becoming more temperate 05:14 hoodah> not like yours 05:14 k8to> i mean, maybe those things are true, but I'm not accepting the word of a clear editorial 05:14 Knobee> hoodah: have you done study on global climate cycles? 05:14 comppimp> im wondering where the houston astros are going to play their home gmaes now 05:14 k8to> burnout: well no, it's not the same thing 05:14 k8to> burnout: one is plausible, the other is not 05:15 hoodah> no I have a relation who is a long term weather forecaster though 05:15 Aikau> comppimp: they play at minute maid park, not the astrodome 05:15 hoodah> his name is Inigo Jones 05:15 comppimp> oh 05:15 comppimp> who plays at hte astrodome? 05:15 Aikau> the refugees 05:15 k8to> burnout: cyclones are fueled by warm ocean surface temperatures, so global warming COULD contribute 05:15 comppimp> :P 05:15 comppimp> haha 05:15 comppimp> noone does though? 05:15 Aikau> nope... vacant stadium 05:15 % Nox> The Astrodome was sold to a church group, it is no longer in service to any sports authority. 05:15 comppimp> ah 05:15 k8to> burnout: but going from could to "was caused by" is ludicrous 05:15 Knobee> Zephyr field? 05:15 hoodah> our droughts here now are lasting for almost a decade each time 05:15 hoodah> fucking deserts everywhere 05:16 comppimp> i was hoping the astros would have to play away from home :( 05:16 ByterNZ-A> Huh??? Then where do the Houston Astros play? 05:16 Aikau> they're sending extra refugees here to our vacant stadium to 05:16 k8to> it asks us to accept that hurricanes weren't happening in the 1800s 05:16 comppimp> i want them to drop in the wild card standings 05:16 Aikau> minute maid stadium, NZ 05:16 Knobee> Global warming is a cyclic occurance -- it's the way the world works. 05:16 Stace> howdy :) 05:16 k8to> Knobee: wrong 05:16 hoodah> that is wrong alright 05:16 Aikau> minute maid stadium... formerly Enron stadium 05:16 InsomniaCity> hehe 05:16 comppimp> hi stace 05:16 Knobee> what's Zephyr field? 05:16 burnout> i think i prefer this jpg to that piece of global warming: 05:16 burnout> http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/roth/images/vahucli.JPG 05:17 InsomniaCity> nbaseball? 05:17 hoodah> anyone here from Biloxi? 05:17 Stace> Nah, I'm in Canada.. 05:17 k8to> Knobee: the whole concept of "global warming" is that there is an unusual warming pattern going on currently, so to claim it's natural is to pretend the concept refers to something that it doesn't 05:17 Stace> But I have a cousin who lives abt 2 hrs north of NO and we've not heard from him. :( 05:17 hoodah> shit 05:17 hoodah> sorry man 05:17 Stace* is a girl. 05:17 hoodah> i know 05:17 k8to> Knobee: you can say the world has cyclic warming and cooling patterns and I think these scientists are on the wrong track 05:17 hoodah> i call everyone man 05:17 k8to> Knobee: however, you'd be wrong there too 05:18 hoodah> it is not cyclic 05:18 Stace> Ah, ok. Well. thanks. I'm certain he's ok. 05:18 hoodah> it is eccentric 05:18 k8to> Knobee: the permafrost in siberia is melting 05:18 burnout> welcome to the internet, whre men are men, women are men, and children are fbi agents ;-P 05:18 Stace> I'm trying to get his phone number from my aunt so I can get some of my voipy friends to try calling. 05:18 hoodah> almost random but intensifuying 05:18 k8to> Knobee: this has not happened for hundreds of thousands of years 05:18 Stace> burnout: What would my cats be then? 05:18 hoodah> which is nothing a mere blink 05:18 comppimp> so true burnout 05:18 burnout> are they from alpha centauri, stace? 05:18 k8to> anyway 05:18 Stace> I don't know. 05:18 hoodah> you are saying really big cycles? 05:18 k8to> arguing about global warming here is stupid 05:18 hoodah> like ice ages etc 05:18 Stace> I do know that PC is a cat magus and can make things appear...EO is an assassin. 05:18 Knobee> ok, you are an expert on global warming, I've heard enough about it, let's move on. 05:18 Stace> But that's about it. 05:19 hoodah> how can it be stupid if in fact it may be the cuase of your predicament 05:19 burnout> so it's dawn in nola ,yes? 05:19 hoodah> consume less, conserve more 05:19 k8to> to say global warming caused hurricanes? 05:19 k8to> uh 05:19 k8to> no 05:19 hoodah> no that it may intensify cyclones/hurricanes 05:20 k8to> the strength of katrina is not unprecedented 05:20 k8to> galveston, 1900? 05:20 Aikau> so they think 05:20 k8to> global warming in 1900? 05:20 burnout> didn't a large hurricane hit nola last year too? 05:20 Stace> Just to make sure I am on the same feed as everyone else...are we experiencing a Chair Moment? 05:20 k8to> ivan came close 05:21 Knobee> http://glycol.wetworks.org/~abc/katrina.pdf 05:21 k8to> you could argue that warming MAY BE a contributing factor 05:21 Knobee> request from FEMA for 1000 teams of 2 -- firefighters 05:21 k8to> but no one knows right now 05:22 Stace> How many of you are actually in/around Louisiana? 05:22 k8to> and it's all pretty irrelevant to the current new orleans situation 05:22 ByterNZ-A> Hello? 05:22 Aikau> define around lousiana 05:22 Stace> um. 05:22 Stace> wet? 05:22 k8to> although I suppose you could point out that new orleans is totally screwed if the artic ice melts 05:22 hoodah> haha 05:22 hoodah> point taken 05:22 Stace> we're actually getting the remnants of katrina today. 05:22 Knobee> so, let's rebuild it, QUICK! 05:22 hoodah> i gotta go 05:23 hoodah> I hope all of you who are in and around the stricken area are ok 05:23 hoodah> and stay well 05:23 Aikau> anybody watching fox news right now? 05:23 hoodah> I feel for you all 05:23 Stace> And we got bashed by a storm a week ago..nothing like katrina, of course, but canada isn't built for stuff like that.. 05:23 thecapitalizt> i can be 05:23 hoodah> it is just too fucking sad for a great city 05:23 Stace> so...we're expecting it will wash away a few roads that are big gaping holes right now. but it is sad, yes... 05:23 Stace> my trip to no was fantastic. :/ 05:23 hoodah> damn... 05:23 hoodah> mine too 05:24 hoodah> we diverted from Las Vegas 05:24 % Nox> Wow, that's a lot of people outside the Superdome. 05:24 hoodah> and it was FUUUUUUNNNN 05:24 % Nox> All surrounding one bus 05:24 hoodah> drinking in the street 05:24 Aikau> yeah 05:24 thecapitalizt> escape from NOLA 05:24 Aikau> but where were the fire trucks? 05:24 hoodah> different languages 05:24 Knobee> they cant' make it. 05:24 hoodah> bye 05:24 joshua> the firetrucks are stuck...high water. 05:24 Aikau> still? 05:24 % Nox> Fire trucks can't find a street. They're sending aquatic vehicles to go pick up equipment 05:24 Knobee> they are looking to get "high water vehicles" to get the firefighters in. 05:25 burnout> so wait 05:25 burnout> the thing keeping the firetrucks 05:25 burnout> from puytting out the fire 05:25 Aikau> didn't see smoke tho 05:25 burnout> is... water? 05:25 thecapitalizt> yes 05:25 Khaz> lol yes 05:25 burnout> i r o n y 05:25 Aikau> heh 05:25 Khaz> isn't it though 05:25 thecapitalizt> break out the fireboats 05:25 Knobee> water's not deep enough for them. 8-( 05:25 dynamicism> which stream is the fastest? 05:25 dynamicism> the one I'm on has a pretty big delay 05:25 burnout> fire jetskis 05:25 Knobee> yeah.. jetskis... 05:26 Khaz> fire intertubes 05:26 thecapitalizt> i've got one in my basement you can borrow 05:26 burnout> a few years ago a hurricane hid dc, we jetskid around baltimore 05:26 Knobee> can't put much of a pump on them, however... 05:26 Khaz> and kyaks 05:26 burnout> when the swells went up 05:26 Aikau> going to create a riot? 05:26 % Nox> It's very near on the verge of full out rioting 05:27 thecapitalizt> Where's Snake Plisken when you need him? 05:27 burnout> stuck in ny 05:27 % Nox> He got out of dodge. 05:27 joshua> i just lost the feed 05:27 Khaz> filming his new film "escape from bagdad" 05:27 dynamicism> what feed are you guys on? 05:27 thecapitalizt> ahh 05:27 dynamicism> this one is slow 05:27 % Nox> You will lose the feed now and then, just restart it. 05:28 % Nox> Various mirrors are listed in the topic of #scanner 05:28 burnout> so what day is this now 05:28 thecapitalizt> oh sweet, some people looted a freakin medical supply truck 05:28 burnout> day of the tragedy 05:28 burnout> day... 10? 05:28 Aikau> 4? 05:28 Khaz> has anybody heard anything about the hospitals in NO? 05:28 thecapitalizt> yea 05:28 thecapitalizt> theyre being evacuated 05:29 thecapitalizt> cause people are LOOTING THE FREAKIN SUPPLY TRUCKS 05:29 Aikau> and they're made of jello 05:29 comppimp> wtf 05:29 thecapitalizt> thats like 05:29 thecapitalizt> stupid 05:29 burnout* shrugs 05:29 comppimp> fox is saying that they are stoping the evac because people are shooting at the choppers 05:29 k8to> there's a lot of destructive behavior going on 05:29 thecapitalizt> "oh sweet we've got gauze!" 05:29 k8to> I dunno how widespread it is 05:29 Khaz> cnn said the same comppimp 05:29 joshua> comppimp: fox is behind. that news is a few hours old. 05:29 Stace> gotta fly, cat assassin is biting my feet. 05:29 % Nox> The media is having some lag. 05:29 comppimp> doesnt seem like the evac has stopped 05:30 Aikau> still no reporting on the fire tho 05:30 thecapitalizt> dude 05:30 % Nox> They've not even reported the soldier shot last night. 05:30 thecapitalizt> woah 05:30 thecapitalizt> wow 05:30 thecapitalizt> new concern: rival gangs in the astrodome 05:30 burnout> what 05:30 Aikau> ugh. 05:30 burnout> they still claiming territory now? 05:30 burnout> "17th st. cot" 05:30 Khaz> future concern.. tear gas shortage 05:31 Aikau> no... when you come to texas... we pretty much don't put up with that shit. they may just shoot them. 05:31 thecapitalizt> hey 05:31 thecapitalizt> don't mess with texas 05:31 Aikau> yeah. 05:32 thecapitalizt> yo did anyone here see that new sat image from digitalglobe 05:32 Knobee> scanner is not sounding good. 05:32 dynamicism> yeah... 05:32 Aikau> looks like i have to deal w/ refugees today when they get to dallas... 05:32 dynamicism> sounds like gunfire 05:32 Khaz> wouldn't be suprised 05:32 td4guy> link to sat image, plz 05:33 cavortingmonkey> reinforce the perimeter... man, it's like a large-scale version of 24. 05:33 % Nox> There was a picture of a group of Nawlins' people that stole a mail truck and drove to Texas, and Texas officials captured them, took the truck and told them to walk the rest of the way to the Astrodome. 05:33 Khaz> their going to have to pull out the beat stick on this one.. its going to be unavoidable 05:33 Knobee> yup. 05:33 Aikau> hahaha.... great story nox 05:34 Aikau> wtf is that fire on FOX? 05:34 comppimp> if only we had footage of the chaos at the EOC's cavortingmonkey 05:34 thecapitalizt> looks like a gas line 05:34 InsomniaCity> at the dome? 05:34 comppimp> and the PD's 05:34 Aikau> no 05:34 Aikau> in the water. 05:34 thecapitalizt> yea 05:34 cavortingmonkey> gas leak. 05:34 thecapitalizt> looks like a gas line 05:34 Knobee> natural gas. 05:34 thecapitalizt> that went "pop" 05:34 Knobee> that's pretty cool 05:34 Knobee> don't want to put those out, btw. 05:34 thecapitalizt> smoke on the water 05:35 Aikau> smoke on the water. 05:35 Aikau> ha 05:35 Aikau> damnit 05:35 thecapitalizt> its fire _on_ the water 05:35 thecapitalizt> how can they put that out? 05:35 Aikau> yes... recap for us fox... 05:35 burnout> sodium ;-P 05:35 Knobee> you DO NOT put out that fire. 05:36 % Nox> That's a gas leak on the water 05:36 Knobee> if you do, the gas continues to escape, finds a point of ignition and blows up. 05:36 comppimp> thats great how the fire is coming up from the water 05:36 Aikau> looks contained... 05:37 Knobee> Trent Lott's house seems to have fallen over. 05:37 Aikau> was he in it? 05:37 Knobee> no 05:37 td4guy> lol 05:37 Aikau> ... then why is it news? 05:37 Aikau> stupid stations 05:38 Aikau* yawns 05:38 burnout> heh, natch, it's cos they can namedrop 05:38 Stace* waves. 05:38 thecapitalizt> oh, think of the displaced yachters~ 05:38 Stace> bed time. 05:39 burnout> night stace 05:39 Stace> graveyard shift kicks. my. bum. 05:39 Aikau> tell the firemen to turn around and leave? 05:39 Stace> btw 05:39 burnout> hope you find the ppl 05:39 Stace> i just found out jamie checked in. :) 05:39 Knobee> woah... 05:39 dynamicism> they can't be secured 05:39 Aikau> gah 05:39 dynamicism> heh shit 05:39 Knobee> firemen leaving. 05:39 burnout> congrats 05:39 Stace> he and his little girl are ok. 05:39 Knobee> unable to secure... 05:39 Knobee> run away! run away! 05:39 Stace> he doesn't know where his ex is. hopes she drowned. 05:39 Stace* coughs. 05:39 Knobee> gonna let the fire burn. 05:39 % Nox> They're not addressing the fire? 05:39 % Nox> Wow. 05:39 Stace> but yeah, no need to go there. 05:39 Aikau> arm the firement. 05:39 burnout> stace: heh 05:39 % Nox> Buh-bye Superdome. 05:39 Stace> good luck w/ stuff! 05:39 Knobee> turn the hoses on the crowd. 05:39 comppimp> the Saints are going to be a tad pissed if the superdome gets burned down 05:39 Stace* waves finally. 05:40 Aikau> saints weren't good anyway 05:40 comppimp> true 05:40 ModusPwnens> tell the firemen to turn around and leave 05:40 ModusPwnens> say again 05:40 ModusPwnens> tell the firemen to turn around and leave, we can't secure them, you need to tell them to leave, we are not addressing the fire in the superdome right now 05:40 burnout> they still have the rams right? 05:40 Aikau> st. louis. 05:40 burnout> h 05:40 burnout> oh 05:40 ByterNZ-A> How long has Houston NOT been playing in the Astrodome?? 05:40 % Nox> 1999 was their last game 05:40 Aikau> a long while 05:40 Khaz> i wana know what happend to pelican jock lol 05:40 Aikau> heh 05:40 Knobee> fox showing inside of a church that was blown away. 05:40 Knobee> amazing. 05:40 ByterNZ-A> So instead, they got a stadium named after ORANGE JUICE? 05:41 comppimp> Nox, what planet is the 5th farthest from the sun? 05:41 Knobee> I think pelican jock had a speach impediment. 05:41 Aikau: is now known as Pelican_Jock 05:41 k8to> comppimp: ? 05:41 % Nox> Uh, Jupiter? 05:41 Khaz> why do you say that knobee? ;) 05:41 comppimp> he seems to know alot, just wanted to test his knowledge :P 05:41 % Nox> lol 05:41 k8to> depends if you count pluto as a planet! 05:41 burnout> the planet that the ast. belt came from 05:42 comppimp> it was jupiter btw 05:42 comppimp> he couldve googled that though 05:42 comppimp> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-27,GGLG:en&q=planet+5th+farthest+from+sun 05:42 WhatNot> the astros last played in the dome in 2000 05:42 Khaz> lol 05:42 burnout> well then, asky him why a raven is like a writing desk. 05:42 k8to> comppimp: also uh, 5th closest == 5th farthest 05:42 Pelican_Jock> i trust whatnot... being from houston and all 05:42 k8to> comppimp: so , tricksy question seems odd 05:43 WhatNot> is the superdome on fire? 05:43 % Nox> The last Astros game at the Astrodome was on October 9, 1999. In 2000, the team moved into Minute Maid Park in downtown Houston. Today, the Astrodome is home of a variety of events. 05:43 burnout> next thing you'll be asking him what you have in your pockets 05:43 Pelican_Jock> whatnot: yes 05:43 k8to> string or nothing! 05:43 Knobee> fox is telling about putting GPS locators on dead bodies. 05:43 Knobee> making them easier to find. 05:43 Pelican_Jock> they'll just loot the bodies 05:43 thecapitalizt> "do satellite phones work there?" 05:43 % Nox> Yep, they're GPSing bodies, and marking houses with paint. The're not picking up the dead yet 05:43 ByterNZ-A* works for Trimble Navigation, a GPS company. 05:43 Knobee> that was pretty stupid... 05:43 Knobee> "uh, no, the satellites got washed away here..." 05:43 td4guy> i'd steal a gps locator off of a dead body, given the chance 05:43 Pete_O> Do you guys have an up-to-date death toll? 05:43 thecapitalizt> way to go Steve Doocy" 05:43 WhatNot> thats what I meant ..Enron Field opened in 200 05:43 WhatNot> 2000 05:43 Khaz> yes... NO is a giant paintball arena at this point 05:44 td4guy> indeed 05:44 % Nox> Latest death toll is 186, but that only includes Mississippi. 05:44 thecapitalizt> grab your CO2 and meet me out back 05:44 burnout> that DToll seems low 05:44 joshua> they're letting the fire in the superdome go? 05:44 Knobee> yes 05:44 joshua> they can't get through apparantly? 05:44 Pete_O> OK, so where does the 1000+ figurer being reported here come from? 05:44 Knobee> the fire in the superdome is gonna be allowed to burn 05:44 Pelican_Jock> estimated, pete 05:44 comppimp> deaths? 05:44 thecapitalizt> i think its that "it may be in the thousands" 05:44 % Nox> The Mayor stated that New Orleans has hundreds, more likely thousands, dead. 05:44 k8to> joshua: they are afriad the firemen will be shot etc 05:45 td4guy> estimated from the sheer number of dead bodies in the NO streets 05:45 comppimp> id be suprised if it wasnt in the thousands 05:45 % Nox> However, they have not stopped to count the dead, or even bother with them. They're trying to deal with the living. 05:45 burnout> k8to: shot by the ppl outside the dome, yes? 05:45 ModusPwnens> Chinooks are 15 minutes late, no sight of them :\ 05:46 Knobee> read @ www.nola.com 05:46 Knobee> that "nightmare in the 9th ward" story give me the creeps. 05:46 Knobee> I recommend everyone become a CERT member. 05:46 Pelican_Jock> ? 05:47 thecapitalizt> computer response emergency technician 05:47 @ hfx_ben> This op came back. 05:47 Knobee> looking for URL... fema's Community Emergency Response Teams 05:47 Knobee> no, not the computer one... 8-) 05:47 @ hfx_ben> AFK for coffee. 05:47 k8to> http://www.citizencorps.gov/programs/cert.shtm 05:47 k8to> maybe that? 05:47 Knobee> http://www.fema.gov/nwz03/nwz03_123a.shtm 05:47 Knobee> fire under control 05:47 thecapitalizt> oops 05:48 @ hfx_ben> How are things going? those buses moved out? 05:48 thecapitalizt> way to go CMU 05:48 Knobee> I hate acronyms. 05:48 @ hfx_ben> Fire in superdome?! 05:48 % Nox> Yes 05:48 Pelican_Jock> yes 05:48 Knobee> fire in garbage chute. 05:48 Nite_Hawk> sounds like it's under contorl... 05:48 @ hfx_ben> K .... need coffee 05:48 thecapitalizt> don't we all... 05:48 WhatNot> how are you guys getting your info? 05:48 InsomniaCity> WhatNot: #scanner 05:48 Pelican_Jock> scanner 05:48 @ hfx_ben> Oh ya, and CERT rocks. 05:49 WhatNot> ahh 05:49 InsomniaCity> Pelican_Jock: <--- ROFL 05:49 Pelican_Jock> hahaha 05:49 Pelican_Jock> yeah 05:49 % Nox> A soldier was shot last night at the Superdome. Then they shot at helicopters, then they started to get rioty, and now a fire has appeared in a garbage chute of the Superdome. Firetrucks can't reach, guard can't protect firemen, and they're "not addressing the fire issue at the moment". 05:49 % Nox> A recap of the night. 05:49 frigo> http://retrospection.net/videofiles/cnn.mov 05:49 burnout> i'm trying to imagine why ppl in the dome would want to shoot at the copters/start fire/shoot at firemen 05:49 td4guy> becasue it's GTA New Orleans 05:50 Pelican_Jock> b/c their meds got washed away? 05:50 burnout> hmm 05:50 burnout> i will quote a guy i know currently in iraq: 05:50 Khaz> yeah.. its all GTA's fault.. and their "hot coffee" mod 05:50 k8to> irrational/hysterial behavior 05:50 SkilletAudio> Becuase this is how bad a true lack of order gets. Violence without reason. See Los Angeles, 1992. 05:50 % Nox> Civilization has broken down in New Orleans. As Interdictor says, it's Lord of the Flies II: New Orleans Unwashed. 05:50 Khaz> when will people learn that video games cause natural disasters and rioting 05:50 InsomniaCity> heh 05:50 burnout> "3) Airstrike on the Superdome. (or artillery, or gas)" 05:51 td4guy> not to mention wanton sex in the streets, caused by the hot coffee mod 05:51 Pelican_Jock> haha 05:51 Khaz> yes.. that too 05:51 trizzo> any idea if the directNIC guys have a "plan B" if they are forced to evacuate? surely they dont have an endless supply of food+water.... 05:51 burnout> homosexual sex 05:51 burnout> does plan B have the words "trail of tears" or "dieback protocol" in it? 05:51 Knobee> I'd love to know what the DirectNIC end-game is ... 05:51 burnout> ... Profit! (natch) 05:52 k8to> interdictor seems -- I would say oddly -- committed to remaining 05:52 Knobee> nearly suicidally so. 05:52 trizzo> yes 05:52 Khaz> i wouldn't want to venture out in the streets either 05:52 td4guy> which is why he's so awesome 05:52 Pelican_Jock> fire out? 05:52 Nite_Hawk> k8to: incredibly good publicity for his ISP. 05:52 trizzo> eventually people will notice the lights in their facility, and attempt a breach 05:52 % Nox> Fire is out at the Superdome. 05:52 % Nox> Smoke remains 05:53 Nite_Hawk> Nox: trouble protecting the firefighters though. 05:53 Knobee> stupid fireman -- sorry to say. 05:53 dynamicism> Well, Interdictor is a former Green Beret 05:53 Khaz> smoke is worse than the fire 05:53 Knobee> smoke removal is not his problem. 05:53 ByterNZ-A> He's got his fiancee with him, right? Then endless sex without outside interruptions. :P 05:53 InsomniaCity> open the roog? 05:53 InsomniaCity> *roof 05:53 dynamicism> so he could probably kick a lot of ass before he goes down 05:53 burnout> he's probably got the BMG setup 05:53 k8to> Nite_Hawk: i don't think a grisly end will make good publicity, should that occur 05:54 k8to> i suppose he could believe the city will get under control before supplies are exhausted 05:54 Knobee> I'm worried that their lights will bring the animals upstairs to them. 05:54 k8to> which seems plausible 05:54 Khaz> worst case scenerio he gets a biographical made for tv movie 05:54 Nite_Hawk> k8to: "we'll die protecting your data"? 05:54 comppimp> i call dibs on the generator if something happens to them :) 05:54 % Nox> The city will get under control whenever the military steps up and takes control. 05:55 k8to> Nite_Hawk: i could also see it spun "We have poor judgement, and fatalistic military tendencies." 05:55 dtj> if he is ex-green beret, he has probably thought about light discipline 05:55 Knobee> colonial pipeline will be up at MAXIMUM 50% capacity within a week. 05:55 k8to> the light discipline has been pointed out to him 05:55 burnout> http://www.neohz.com/mp3s/ 05:55 k8to> although i bet he's aware 05:55 @ hfx_ben> 10-19? 05:55 InsomniaCity> no idea 05:56 dtj> not to mention they probably don't have a whole lot of lights blazing anyways 05:56 Knobee> around here, 10-19 is "return to service" 05:56 comppimp> 10-19 (In) Contact 05:56 Knobee> pelican jock is back! 05:56 Knobee> woo hoo! 05:56 InsomniaCity> HES BACK! 05:56 Khaz> woohoo 05:56 comppimp> 10-19 Return to office 05:56 Khaz> my hero 05:56 @ hfx_ben> rgr thanks 05:56 % Nox> http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm Louisiana Radio Codes and Signals 05:56 @ hfx_ben> Defender7 put callsigns in the right order! 05:57 InsomniaCity> ice? 05:57 InsomniaCity> hfx_ben: doing my best 05:57 thecapitalizt> Pelican? 05:57 @ hfx_ben> thanks nox 05:57 thecapitalizt> what, did Master Chief stop by? 05:57 comppimp> i dont think that guy was calling for a mechanic 05:57 Knobee> 10-19 == mechanic needed. 05:57 @ hfx_ben> oh hey capital I believe you ... but I'm listening to the stream 05:58 thecapitalizt> sweet 05:58 Nite_Hawk> the stream I'm listening to right now is talking about getting the buses rolling out. 05:58 InsomniaCity> >1 stream 05:58 InsomniaCity> or serious lag 05:58 Khaz> the stream i'm listening to is breaking up into static.. 05:58 thecapitalizt> the dude on fox news that theyre interviewing is promoting his book 05:58 ByterNZ-A> Arrgh..I need to sleep... 1:03 am and I've got work tomorrow. 05:58 Khaz> there it goes 05:59 burnout> i see fox news is as well produced as ever 05:59 InsomniaCity> they covering any of the stuff in #scanner? 05:59 thecapitalizt> they can interview people for that info 05:59 InsomniaCity> ie, crowds near firefighters at the dome 06:00 % Nox> No news outlet has reported about anything at the superdome. 06:00 Knobee> don't want panic. 06:00 Knobee> hahaha 06:00 WhatNot> yea...not a word 06:00 Pelican_Jock> ? 06:00 Mira> CNN did mention the fires, albeit briefly 06:00 Khaz> panic? oh no none of that happening 06:00 Knobee> damn... look at the PEOPLE... 06:00 Knobee> (foxnews) 06:00 % Nox> The last word is that evac was stopped due to shots fired at helicopters. 06:00 Nite_Hawk> yeah, I must have a very lagged feed. 06:00 % Nox> Nothing about the soldier being shot. Or the rioting. Or this fire. 06:00 thecapitalizt> holy balls 06:01 thecapitalizt> theyre just like 06:01 thecapitalizt> chillin on the interstate 06:01 Knobee> note the quick pull from that feed... 06:01 InsomniaCity> oo 06:01 Knobee> don't show people 06:01 Knobee> only long shots. 06:01 InsomniaCity> Office of Public Hea;lth 06:02 Pelican_Jock> this is pelican jock, pelican jock 06:02 Knobee> haha 06:02 % Nox> Pelicans don't have jocks. It's not aerodynamic. 06:02 Knobee> it's GOTTA be jock. 06:02 Khaz> lol jock is the greatest 06:02 InsomniaCity> we gotta email him after 06:02 Knobee> nobody here but ME. 06:03 thecapitalizt> ? 06:03 Knobee> sounded a bit ill. 8-) 06:03 thecapitalizt> someone mind explaining pelican jock? 06:03 Knobee> we have no idea who it is. 06:03 Khaz> all those people... did they release a new star wars movie and not tell me? 06:03 Knobee> callsign for someone. 06:03 Knobee> all the swat units ran away. 8-) 06:04 Knobee> region 9 EOC to headquarters... 06:04 Knobee> woo hoo. 06:04 Knobee> god, I'd love to be in on one of those conference calls. 06:04 Knobee> "WE ARE SO FUCKED" "YEAH, RUN AWAY" 06:04 Khaz> lol 06:04 thecapitalizt> hey 06:05 Khaz> he's dead jim 06:05 thecapitalizt> we do have the holy hand grenade of antioch 06:05 Knobee> hahah. 06:05 Knobee> and the count shall be 3 06:05 Khaz> "theres a fire!" "ahh fuck it lets let it burn" 06:05 InsomniaCity> lol 06:06 Knobee> the Navy has been looking for a new bombing range... 06:06 dtj> i wonder if there is any difference in insurance payout between fire and flood 06:06 Knobee> looks like we now have one. 06:06 Khaz> cnn reports "msg from mayor to police: do whatever it takes to gain control" well thank you for that bit of wisdom.. 06:06 Knobee> er.. what's between Gate A and Gate C? perhaps Gate B? 8-) 06:06 Khaz> never would of thought of that.. 06:07 dtj> can the mayor set the rules of engagement for police? 06:07 % Nox> Heh. "Keep doing that". 06:07 Knobee> I'd LOVE to see what these guys are talking about... need a liveshot. 06:08 brocktice> mornin 06:08 Khaz> great their lost 06:08 brocktice> I see things have calmed down a little here 06:08 CompWizrd> i keep thinking of Police Academy.. was it #2 where they had the rioters? 06:09 Khaz> wow.. this twit reporting for cnn is about half brain dead 06:09 brocktice> Khaz: I was grateful for the reporting as the storm passed, but now it's getting annoying 06:09 Pete_O> OK - Sky News here in the UK is running a feed from New Orleans - just trying to work out which station they are taking it from 06:10 Locke> a reporter? half brain dead? noooooo, never would have equated that. Was he one of the guys standing hip deep in flood water and 70mph wind? 06:10 dtj> comedians were talking about a 24-hour looting channel that has arisen ;-) 06:11 ConservoHippie> I'm still looking for that channel 06:11 brocktice> hey it looks like there's only 3' of water by my apt... 06:11 brocktice> It's elevated about 3', so it may be okay. Except it's probably been looted 06:11 brocktice> but it could be worse 06:12 dtj> pr0n collection gone? 06:12 Khaz> lol a looting channel 06:12 brocktice> dtj: yeah that would be awful 06:12 % Nox> Trying to get an escort for the Mayor. 06:12 dtj> the looting channel shows up as "CNN" on my tivo 06:12 Knobee> just think of the shit that will be on eBay next month .. "slightly stained" "water damaged" etc. 06:13 dtj> Knobee, and "Beachfront Property" ads too 06:13 Knobee> gah... 06:13 Khaz> water damaged (but brand new) 06:13 brocktice> Yeah, I hear my street is now lakefront property 06:13 Khaz> this merchandise is a steal! 06:14 Knobee> so... how long before we lose a chopper over NO. It's not a question of "if", but a question of "when" 06:14 InsomniaCity> I dont wann be transcriging when that happens 06:14 Khaz> i'm waiting for them to bust out the tear gase and riot shields 06:15 % Nox> Yeah, I think it's time for the tear gas myself. 06:15 InsomniaCity> any video from the Dome area? 06:15 Khaz> i'd be dropping canisters the moment they fired at the chopper 06:15 Knobee> nothing current 06:15 % Nox> Durn feed went out gain 06:16 brocktice> any of you from the North Shore? 06:17 % Nox> Guess the mayor doesn't need an escort 06:17 Knobee> look at the humanity... amazing. 06:17 Pete_O> OK, I'm getting the webcam feed, but you seem to have a condensation problem!!!! 06:18 Eimann> ack ;) 06:18 nagual678> any news ? 06:19 dynamicism> what's that beeping 06:19 Knobee> beeping? 06:19 Eimann> on the stream 06:19 Eimann> ah 06:19 Eimann> back, it seems 06:19 Locke> nagual: shots were fired at a chinook...there were reports of a fire at the superdome...and CNN has turned into the LootTV 06:19 Khaz> the webcam feed isn't working on my end.. anybody post a link for me? make sure i have the right one 06:20 nagual678> holy **** 06:20 roy> wtfb 06:20 roy> er 06:20 roy> rtfb 06:20 Burke> Okay 06:20 Knobee> cnn headline news is worthless. 06:20 Burke> I just woke up, what the hell's been happening? 06:20 brocktice> where else can you get your disaster porn continuously? 06:21 Burke> If CNN Headline was and kind of pr0n, I'd really hate to see the kind of people that get off to it 06:21 roy> looks like the window is busted and/or wet 06:21 dynamicism> it's wet 06:21 % Nox> http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050901/050901_superdome2_hmed_6a7.h2.jpg 06:21 Locke> i still miss FoxNews coverage during the actual hurricane. The idiot reporters that they had standing outside in the middle of the storm was actually funny. The one guy that was leaning forward at a 45 degree angle to stand up against the wind was pretty comical 06:21 Knobee> ha "with the transport halted, that is going to take a lot longer" 06:21 % Nox> That is what they're dealing with outside the Superdome. But that's only a piece. 06:22 dynamicism> heh holy shit 06:22 dynamicism> wow 06:22 brocktice> Locke: the weather channel had a bunch of those guys too. I was actually thankful because the guy in Covington showed us the area was probably okay. He stood outside through the whole thing. 06:22 Knobee> hung mike, it seems 06:23 Knobee> background hum but no audio.... and now someone else keying up. 06:23 Burke> I'm good 06:23 Locke> well that's good! They had a guy on fox news at gulf port...his camera man told him he wasn't safe so he wanted to go in, and his response was "Well the cameraman isn't feeling safe so I can only stay out here about 30 more minutes" 06:23 Khaz> dumb ass 06:23 Locke> they had one guy LITERALLY hip deep in flood water with one of those hand held wind meters reading around 60 mph 06:23 nagual678> i live in europe, is there a live video feed i can watch ? 06:24 Knobee> urgent mission to superdome. 06:24 Teriander> any ops there? 06:24 Pelican_Jock> anybody else having feed problems w/ the scanners? 06:24 Knobee> it's quiet now. 06:24 Khaz> whoa shit the suns coming up 06:24 Locke> They had Shepard Smith in the French Quarter asking people what the hell they were still doing in New Orleans. I think one guy asked him why he came to new orleans in the first place if it's going to be that bad 06:24 Pelican_Jock> this is pelican jock, nevermind over 06:25 % Nox> Baton Rouge Parish Mayor Kip Holden said that no more evacuees would be accepted. He also called for refugees housed in the River Center be moved elsewhere, WBRZ Channel 2 reported. 06:25 Khaz> lol 06:25 Knobee> the call to turn away refugees has to be hard. 06:26 Knobee> still needs gas 06:26 Knobee> not leaking 06:26 Khaz> i wouldn't feel to bad about it knowing that at least a few of them are carrying guns, and aren't happy 06:27 Aequitas> I'm in Baton Rouge, shelters are full. 06:27 brocktice> * High-resolution sattelite photo here: http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/katrina/new_orleans_msi_aug31_2005_dg.jpg 06:29 Khaz> well i'm off for a smoke and shleep 06:29 Khaz> night all 06:29 Knobee> 'night 06:29 Burke> Damn, I can see my house from here. 06:29 brocktice> I think mine's under a cloud 06:30 Knobee> I'm in mine. 06:30 Knobee* goes to work. 06:30 td4guy> whoa...neat pic 06:31 Pelican_Jock> oh pelican jock... 06:31 brocktice> yeah, someone on my livejournal friends list posted. I get way more useful information from them than from the talking heads 06:32 Locke> so am i seeing this correct in that the darkened areas are the areas under water? 06:32 brocktice> yeah 06:32 brocktice> you can see one of the levee breaks in the upper left 06:32 Mira> JOCC = Joint Operations Command Center 06:33 Locke> ok, yea, i do see that 06:33 Locke> wow 06:33 ModusPwnens> Steven Mouton will be a port-a-let hero 06:33 Locke> looking at the main highways you get a real good sense of it 06:33 InsomniaCity> ModusPwnens: lol 06:34 brocktice> yeah I matched the photo with google maps, looks like there's definitely water by my place, but it's under a cloud :( 06:34 tolkachi> hi- is mms://204.251.3.10:xxxx the only feed available? 06:35 InsomniaCity> tolkachi: #scanner has loads in the topic 06:35 tolkachi> is this an irc cmd? 06:36 InsomniaCity> tolkachi: /join #scanner 06:36 tolkachi> ah, channel- thank you 06:37 Teriander> I just heard they are shooting at the helos 06:37 Teriander> This is the sequal to Blackhawk Down. 06:38 InsomniaCity> Does anyone want to take over transcribing with ModusPwnens? I need to go and get food (14:38 UK time) 06:38 ModusPwnens> scanner transcribers could use a break! 06:38 Mode: #interdictor[-h+o Nox Nox] by math 06:39 Burke> This time, the stakes are higher...... we are the enemy, and there is no smartss to make coffee!!! 06:39 nagual678> do you know of any live feed i can listen to / watch ? 06:39 InsomniaCity> nagual678: video, no 06:39 @ math> nagual678: #scanner 06:39 @ math> and read the faq 06:39 Burke> There was video onthe mina LJ page. 06:39 nagual678> k thx 06:39 Burke> Kinda....... boring 06:40 Mode: #interdictor[+o Teriander] by math 06:40 Pelican_Jock* yawns 06:40 @ math> some scanner transcribers PLEASE step up 06:40 InsomniaCity> Pelican_Jock: say something dammit 06:40 @ math> help out, we dont want a break 06:40 Pelican_Jock> haha 06:40 ModusPwnens> looking for replacement transcriber (possibly solo) within the next 20 minutes, I can resume later 06:40 @ math> Teriander: use your op status to help find a scanner xscribe 06:40 Pelican_Jock> math: i would go back to it, but i gotta take off shortly 06:40 InsomniaCity> math: I'll poke around in some of my other channels 06:41 @ Teriander> Math: Sorry, I'll look into that. Thanks 06:41 @ math> i gotta jet 06:41 @ math> keep the peace here in teriander: no politics/bush bashing/flamewars is the rule 06:42 @ math> and find a transcribe. 06:42 @ math> the log for the scanner channel is here 06:42 Pelican_Jock> uh math 06:42 brocktice> is there a logger running? 06:42 @ math> http://nola.heavycomputing.ca/nola-scanner.log 06:43 Pelican_Jock> kinda need an op in #scanner to give voice 06:43 @ math> crap no ops left? 06:43 Pelican_Jock> not any around 06:43 brocktice> what about here? no loger here? I can bring my bot in 06:43 brocktice> *logger 06:43 @ Nox> Hm? 06:43 @ Nox> I'm up for another half hour, math. 06:43 Pelican_Jock> except nox... he's around 06:43 Pelican_Jock> apparently 06:43 Burke> oooh a conversation 06:43 Burke> .... 06:44 brocktice> nm 06:44 brocktice> got to travel, back in a couple days 06:44 Locke> ok i gotta go to class. stay safe everyone 06:44 Locke: is now known as Locke|Class 06:44 @ math> Nox: ok need to find a transcriber to take over, so we dont have breaks. 06:44 @ math> in the logs 06:44 @ Nox> Lookin' 06:48 notb4> there's a new blog entry up 06:49 ModusPwnens> is someone ready to take over the main transcribing? 06:50 @ Nox> Anyone here with an active voice feed want to transcribe some? 06:52 Pelican_Jock> why is there nothing in the #scanner log about shots fired at helicopters? 06:52 InsomniaCity> we could go for recording it instead 06:52 ModusPwnens> I think it is already 06:52 ModusPwnens> being saved in 4 hour chunks possibly 06:53 Pelican_Jock> wish i could stick around to do it 06:53 InsomniaCity> so we shouldn't be too scared about dropping it 06:53 Pelican_Jock> but this pelican jock has shit to do 06:53 ModusPwnens> I said *I think* :( 06:53 tolkachi> how do i access the faq? 06:53 Pelican_Jock> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 06:54 tolkachi> thank you 06:54 ModusPwnens> help me out here guys I've been on this for 6 hours now :( 06:55 InsomniaCity> I'm trying to think of some big IRC channels 06:55 tolkachi> how long do you need modus? 06:55 @ Nox> Insomnia, can you pick it up again? 06:55 @ math> how many people in the channel 06:55 @ math> i cant tell 06:55 @ math> (here) 06:55 Mode: #interdictor[+l 400] by math 06:56 @ math> gonna up the limit in case we're maxed cuz its quieter in here compared to last night 06:56 @ Nox> 165 people in the channel right now 06:56 @ math> oh not even close. 06:56 comforteagleste> this blog is amazing 06:56 @ Nox> I think a lot are just in bed still. Heh 06:56 Pelican_Jock> or at work? 06:56 @ Nox> That too 06:56 comforteagleste> I'm mirroring it every 5 mins just in case it goes down... i.tawkr.com 06:56 Eimann> :Current global users: 208 Max: 208 - can u change the config to 800 or so and /rehash or sighup the ircd? 06:57 ModusPwnens> I could use an hour really 06:58 ModusPwnens> tolkachi 06:58 michael> Eimann: Pretty sure "max" there just means the highest number that has ever been seen, not a limit. 06:58 @ math> comforteagleste: mirroring the log of the chan or the glog 06:58 @ math> blog 06:58 comforteagleste> blog 06:58 @ math> shit current global is 208? 06:59 @ math> thats real bad. 06:59 Mode: #interdictor[+l 200] by math 06:59 @ math> err 06:59 Eimann> michael: it's the limit 06:59 Mode: #interdictor[+l 250] by math 06:59 @ math> in case someone resets that. 06:59 @ math> thats not so great. 06:59 @ math> that its 208. 07:00 tolkachi> Modus: your transcribing is -1min to my feed 07:00 ModusPwnens> behind? 07:00 @ Nox> Tolkachi: can you take over transcribing for an hour for Modus? 07:01 tolkachi> yes- I receive my feed after you transcribe 07:01 ModusPwnens> tolkachi you are free to take over please, if you will 07:01 @ Nox> There are various lag delays between repeaters. 07:02 tolkachi> using mirror: www.goodphuck.com:8088/, i can run for 1hr 07:02 InsomniaCity> I may have someone on freenode, talking to him now 07:02 ModusPwnens> please start now, I need to leave asap 07:02 @ Nox> We're currently in radio silence, so now is a good time to switch 07:02 tolkachi> ok- i'm good 07:02 tolkachi> any rules? 07:02 Eimann> i've added my mirrors to the wiki (Stream and picts) 07:02 @ Nox> Thanks Tolkachi. 07:02 tolkachi> names, locations, etc 07:03 ModusPwnens> don't display phone numbers 07:03 tolkachi> emitting 07:03 @ Nox> No phone numbers 07:03 ModusPwnens> anything else is fair 07:03 tolkachi> ok- 07:03 ModusPwnens> thanks everyone, I'll be back in a bit 07:03 tolkachi> np 07:03 ModusPwnens> Keep it going! :) 07:03 Eimann> good luck, tolkachi :) 07:04 tolkachi> thanks 07:05 nagual678> is it me or has just blank been transmitted for the past 5 minutes ? 07:05 InsomniaCity> nagual678: nope, I concur 07:06 comforteagleste> Eimann; what's the wiki address? 07:06 tolkachi> no transmissions here 07:06 InsomniaCity> its possible the scanner has gone down 07:06 Dark-Fx|sleep> They all died. 07:06 tolkachi> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 07:06 Dark-Fx|sleep> heh 07:06 Dark-Fx|sleep: is now known as Dark-Fx 07:06 Eimann> comforteagleste: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 07:06 @ Nox> Theyre jusy not communicating at the moment. There, someone is keying 07:06 InsomniaCity> good luck tolkachi 07:07 InsomniaCity> what happened to tolkachi? 07:07 comforteagleste> scanner is back 07:07 wspraul> stupid question: Is the water level still rising in the city or falling? 07:07 Pelican_Jock> it's equal last time i heard. 07:08 @ Teriander> yes equal 07:08 Pelican_Jock> apparently Fark is doing the same thing we are... w/ the listening to the scanners 07:08 tolkachi> i'm sorry, i can't type this fast 07:08 InsomniaCity> :( 07:08 tolkachi> someone please help 07:08 CoolerQ> I've got another mirror of the scanner at http://us3.comclub.org:8000/no_scanner if anyone needs it... I'll post it on the wiki 07:08 Dark-Fx> fark is ruining it. 07:09 tolkachi> sorry insom 07:10 InsomniaCity> Pelican_Jock: can I leave you to it, its 3pm in the UK and I need my lunch 07:10 Eimann> InsomniaCity: Hm, should i try to take over? got some G8 summit experience in dispatching, but the stream got a big lag here in germany :-/ 07:10 Pelican_Jock> i can only transcribe for about 5-10 more minutes 07:10 InsomniaCity> Eimann: big lag is no problem 07:10 InsomniaCity> Eimann: do it :) 07:10 Eimann> InsomniaCity: ok 07:11 tolkachi> ty eim 07:11 InsomniaCity> OOPS 07:11 InsomniaCity> what the fuck did I do? 07:11 nagual678> this stream has almost no lag at all : http://216.14.30.229:8000/ 07:11 InsomniaCity> Pelican_Jock: sorry about that 07:11 @ doofoo-> none of them have lag 07:11 @ doofoo-> it's just how long you buffer up 07:11 nagual678> yes some do have lag 07:11 @ doofoo-> not much 07:12 InsomniaCity> Eimann: can we suggest (unt) and (slip) ? 07:12 Eimann> jep 07:12 InsomniaCity> allright, here we go 07:12 InsomniaCity: is now known as InsomniaCity|fo 07:13 Pelican_Jock> k, you're behind me... so i'll stop 07:13 Pelican_Jock> no worries about fuckups, just try the best you can 07:14 boolean> morning 07:14 tolkachi> what is the (unt) and (slip) 07:14 Eimann> untranslated 07:15 nagual678> unintelligible most of the time anyway 07:15 tolkachi> ok 07:15 Pelican_Jock: is now known as Pelican_Jock|aw 07:16 Pelican_Jock|aw: is now known as Aikau|away 07:18 nagual678> kicking the doors in ? 07:18 tolkachi> at the hyatt 07:19 boolean> did any1 just hear gun fire ? 07:19 nagual678> there's definitely something happening 07:20 tolkachi> i just lost feed 07:20 tolkachi> back on 07:20 boolean> same here 07:20 Eimann> hm 07:21 tolkachi> what is the video feed on the livejournal-interdictor site 07:21 Eimann> can't understand that, it's bad quality 07:21 boolean> same here 07:21 nagual678> someone singing ?? 07:25 bond> Hmm.. anyone got a police-stream up ? 07:26 boolean> there are a few -> http://wiki.your.org/index.php/Main_Page 07:26 bond> just saw on the news here that people are shooting on rescue choppers 07:26 bond> WTF is wrong with people nowdays ? 07:27 bond> this is a tradegy and still people are beeing fucking idiots instead of helping each other 07:27 boolean> ppl have been shooting the rescue folk for a couple of days now 07:27 bond> err some of then 07:27 boolean> understand that the majority of those left behind already have strained relations with authority 07:27 bond> boolean: im in Sweden, delayed news here :| 07:27 pyroman002> hey 07:27 boolean> ˆ/ws 1 07:27 pyroman002> watching on news, 30,000 national guard on the way 07:28 bond> good 07:28 bond> they could send even more 07:28 jussiv> bond hello from across the gulf of bothnia, im at oulu, finland 07:28 pyroman002> you there bond? 07:28 Eimann> hm, what is he saying after stadio c .. 07:28 pyroman002> you in no? 07:28 bond> jussiv: Yo 07:28 bond> pyroman002: naah, im in sweden 07:28 pyroman002> ahh 07:28 boolean> there still seems to a logistic nightmare going on with all the authority 07:29 bond> they should bring 200-300k troops and make everything clean in one single sweep 07:29 jas> nuke it from space. it's the only way to be sure. 07:29 Eva> heh - strained relations with authority, that's probably the nicest way I've ever heard idiots like that described 07:29 tolkachi> bond: i doubt we have those resources in the U.S. right now 07:30 bond> jas: no need to nuke, better to lock up the fucks 07:30 jas> shoot 07:30 Eva> anyone that shoots at a rescue has forfitted their right to breath IMHO 07:30 bond> they should be treated as terorists 07:30 pyroman002> they are 07:30 jussiv> they should use an apache chopper in front of the rescue choppers 07:30 pyroman002> i may have to go in there this weekend 07:30 bond> pyroman002. but they aint treated as that 07:30 jas> people looting food/water - let em do it... those looting electricals... shoot to kill. 07:31 Eimann> can u set the user limit on this server to a higher value? 07:31 pyroman002> a buddy of mine had xboxs, tvs, computers, and candy looted from his store 07:31 bond> jas: yeah.. looting for necessary items for survival is good, takeing advantage of the situation to make profit just shows how fucked up people really are 07:31 jas> i'm not concerned about the goods themselves - insurance will cover it... it's more to do with respect and lawlessness. 07:32 pyroman002> i've heard rumors of citizens wanting to arm-up and go in 07:32 pyroman002> hope it happens 07:32 boolean> considering that the NOPD have also participated in the looting ... not surprising others are following 07:32 jas> yeah but what kind of looting 07:32 dr0h> and then how do you differentiate between and armed looter and an armed civilian? 07:32 pyroman002> stealing tvs 07:32 jas> maybe they were looting food to take to other people 07:32 jas> where exactly are they taking a tv? 07:33 pyroman002> my buddy has a store in new orleans, a customer stopped by yesterday and reported stolen computers, tvs, and xboxs 07:33 bond> well i think looting one tv or 2 is ok.. (it might actuallyt be a hobo that doesnt ave this and wants to keep informed.) 07:33 jas> a wet plasma plugged into a dead powerpoint is of little use when your water is fouled. 07:33 jussiv> primitive instinct.. to get the first thing needed for survival, a tv. 07:33 jussiv> something started beeping in the mp3 stream here 07:34 bond> but then,, there is no electricity.. a radio would be better 07:34 bond> but people are more stupid than you think 07:34 Burke> never understimate the power of stupid people in large numbers 07:34 shoggoth> can anyone confirm this?: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1474267/posts 07:34 nagual678> what's with the beeping 07:34 bond> first thing i would loot would be WATER, batterys and a radio.. you can survive 75 days without food 07:34 tolkachi> beeping stopped 07:34 shoggoth> tulane med center taken over by armed looters 07:35 tolkachi> has the situation resolved? 07:35 bond> well i guess thinks will get calmed down in a few days.. most idiots right now are drug addicts probably who have _bad_ abstinence cause they cant get a fix 07:35 Eimann> can any1 understand them? i can't :-/ 07:36 desiderius7> is audio supposed to work with the webcam, or is there a separate mp3 stream 07:36 Aikau|away> anybody else wanna transcribe? 07:36 Eimann> desiderius7: there'S no audio related to the webcam 07:37 tolkachi> aik: sorry, i wish i could keep up 07:37 Dark-Fx> this IRC server is full, apparently. 07:37 Eimann> Dark-Fx: it is, they have to change the limit and rehash it 07:38 Dark-Fx> I've been on since they first announced it. 07:38 Aikau|away> last chance before i leave... anybody want to transcribe? 07:38 tolkachi> eim- what mirror are you using 07:39 comforteagleste> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7709 07:39 Aikau|away: is now known as PelicanJockaway 07:40 baltakatei was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (Inactive User) 07:40 bbbrown> beeping is morse code 07:41 Beau|Nite was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (Inactive User) 07:41 Dark-Fx> someone needs to wake Frank up so he can fix the limit and rehash the config 07:41 Dark-Fx> :D 07:41 tommusic> but the beeping is so rhythmic 07:41 tommusic> no differences in the pattern when i hear it 07:41 Bell_ was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (Inactive User) 07:41 Eimann> kicking users doen't help 07:41 Eimann> only killing 07:41 Dark-Fx> yeah 07:41 @ Nox> The beeping is from the mirroring, I do believe they said. 07:41 bbbrown> guessed wrong sorry 07:42 tommusic> ahh -- i do believe that i haven't waded through the backlog yet ;-) 07:42 @ Amish_Hooker> the morse code comes on when my mirror looses connection to the main stream 07:42 Dark-Fx> I was trying to set up a mirror, but I can't get on the original stream. 07:42 pyroman002> what is this stream y'all are talking about? 07:42 @ Amish_Hooker> it does that rather than disconnect all the users 07:42 jussiv> is there a sound of a running motor going on constantly in the background noise 07:42 Eva> 2 officers shot at bonneville exit ramp - calling for a pickup 07:42 nickm> hola 07:42 tolkachi> i-10 exit ramp 07:43 pyroman002> wow 07:43 pyroman002> my GF has a house near there 07:43 tolkachi> there will be a boat in there for a pick up 07:43 Eva> they REALLY need to start shooting back 07:43 nagual678> 2 officers shot 07:43 pyroman002> what is the ip of this mp3 stream? 07:43 comforteagleste> where is the national guard? 07:43 PelicanJockaway> holy shot 07:43 PelicanJockaway> shit* 07:43 InternetFriend> pyroman002, see #scanner 07:43 pyroman002> ok 07:43 @ Nox> join channel #scanner, it's in the topic 07:43 PelicanJockaway> need new transcribers 07:44 @ Amish_Hooker> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5975&file=filename.pls will get you on a open server 07:44 PelicanJockaway> i have to get to work/school. 07:44 @ Teriander> 2 police officers shot at the Bonable Exit on I-10 07:44 @ Teriander> Eva, yea 07:44 pyroman002> got it thanks 07:44 @ Teriander> Bonnabel 07:45 InternetFriend> damn I can't stay connected to the webcam 07:45 bond> they've shot 2 cops 07:45 @ Teriander> yep 07:45 @ lukemccoy> sup reggie 07:45 @ Teriander> hey Luke 07:45 WisTodd> Is there any scanner stream that will work with Windoze Media Player? 07:45 Eimann> WisTodd: take a look at the #scanner topic 07:45 @ Teriander> 2 cops shot at Bonnabel exit luke 07:45 bond> how do laws work there.. do cops have the right to kill if they are forced or threated ? 07:46 @ Teriander> yes Bond 07:46 Eva> cops ALWAYS have that right 07:46 bond> not in sweden 07:46 bond> our laws here are stupid 07:46 bond> they actually benefit burglers 07:46 @ Teriander> actually our laws are stupid. Our laws set criminals free 07:46 WisTodd> ty for not saying "duh" Eimann. :) 07:47 Eva> state EOC is standing by for some General 07:47 Eva> FEMA national is shutting down zephryr field depot 07:47 Eva> they can't do that - that is our best system for food and water 07:47 Eva> if they do that - we are out of business 07:49 pyroman002> coordination my ass 07:49 boolean> any1 have a National Guard stream link ? 07:49 pyroman002> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5975&file=filename.pls 07:49 boolean> damn stright! 07:49 tolkachi> Eimann: try using feed 216.14.30.229:8000 , i will try to fill in the blanks of the feed also, this is good? 07:49 Eimann> ok 07:50 Eimann> i'm on this stream now 07:50 trizzo> so power wont be restored for weeks, are the directNIC guys gonna run on genset for a few months? 07:51 trizzo> doesnt seem plausible... 07:51 tolkachi> what is the datacenter that is running? 07:51 nickm> are all 5 streams in the .pls the same source? 07:52 @ lukemccoy> directnic.com / zipa.com 07:52 tolkachi> are they saying pelican jock or pelican talk 07:52 pyroman002> think so 07:52 @ Amish_Hooker> the shoutcast link opens the whole cluster in your program 07:54 Pete_O> Afternoon from the UK 07:54 Pete_O> Need to vanish from PC in a few mins, but what's the latest? 07:54 Pete_O> By the way, no-one got back to me about mirroring in the UK, so I'm going to assume it's not needed 07:56 tolkachi> whos this Colonel A.? 07:59 Knobee> 08:00 tolkachi> (feed down here) 08:00 nagual678> here too 08:00 boolean> btw how is directnic still being able to pull bits out of NO ? 08:00 tolkachi> (back) 08:00 boolean> s/pull/send 08:01 Eimann> boolean: The fibers are ok and they have generator + fuel 08:01 comforteagleste> gotta jet.. good luck everyone! 08:02 hfx_ben> wow ... took 44 tries to connect! 08:02 boolean> from the datacenter... ok but what about the telco they are connected to or the actuall conduits to their peers ? 08:02 boolean> i thought all that was gone 08:02 boolean> at least the *ahem* news *ahem* makes it sound so 08:02 chimi> lol and you trust the news to be right? 08:02 Mode: #interdictor[+o hfx_ben] by Amish_Hooker 08:03 GPF> hi 08:03 Eimann> boolean: i think they fibers to somewhere outside[tm] 08:03 @ hfx_ben> greets GPF 08:03 boolean> that part i figured ... i just thought all conduits were either submerged or out 08:03 Knobee> what we need is to have the scanner audio on the same stream as the video... 08:04 tolkachi> that would limit the number of people connected to the stream 08:04 tolkachi> more than it is now 08:04 Eimann> if there are no earthquakes and the equipment is not flooded and there are no active repeaters on the line from directnic to the destination, it shouldn't be a problem ... ;) 08:04 boolean> my programmer just said the same :) 08:04 tolkachi> was that a sonar ping?? 08:04 Knobee> I mean the mises.org feed, not the direct one. 08:04 Knobee> feedback 08:05 dr0h> does (unt) stand for uninteligible? 08:05 Knobee> untranslated 08:05 dr0h> ah 08:05 dr0h> k 08:07 Eva> sending soldiers to the front of the Hyatt? 08:07 tolkachi> has anyone located the i-10 ramp 08:07 nagual678> wow someone is pretty upset 08:07 Eimann> here is mobile 1 08:07 Eimann> wrong windo 08:07 Eimann> w 08:08 Knobee> ah! Pelican Jock! 08:09 @ hfx_ben> Anybody on HF? 14.265 should be SATERN 08:09 CoolerQ> I wonder... has anyone seen a mention of us on a news network? 08:10 pyroman002> nope 08:11 @ hfx_ben> The server is already overloaded. 08:11 SCSi> yeah 08:11 Knobee> LSU Medical Center 08:11 SCSi> im looking to see how i can raise the limit 08:11 @ hfx_ben> ^5 SCSI 08:11 dr0h> you need a server start after you edit the cfg file 08:11 dr0h> s/start/restart/ 08:11 Knobee> wow, that guy sounds bad... 08:12 SCSi> a rehash wont do it? 08:12 dr0h> I don't think so for connection limits 08:12 Eimann> rehash will do also, i think 08:12 dr0h> but it can't hurt to try ;) 08:12 Eimann> or /rehash throttles 08:12 hfx_ben* recalls early Indy days ... we somehow strapped two servers together but I didn't help with that 08:13 SCSi> okay 08:13 Eimann> I'm trying to get a windows media stream relay for the european users 08:13 @ mayo> morning :) 08:13 Eimann> hi mayo 08:14 tolkachi> eimann: i'm in strasbourg FR with a 1MB connect 08:14 @ mayo> haven't seen you on news, but netcraft had an article on you yesterday .. (so did many others) 08:16 @ hfx_ben> http://www.weatherserver.net/hurricanecenter/ is a list of gulf area TV feeds 08:17 pyroman002> who here is actually in NO? 08:17 Burke> where all are they moving people to? Houston, Dallas, and where? 08:17 @ hfx_ben> Nightime: http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/canwarnlive is the 80MTR ARES net 08:18 boolean> hfx_ben: there are other frequencies with others ( ie FEMA and ilke ) ? 08:18 Burke> lo? 08:18 tolkachi> hfx: what is the last feed? 08:18 ben__: is now known as shelter 08:18 Knobee> dragon 7 08:19 @ hfx_ben> tolk? last feed? ummm ... it's a ham radio emergency net; 3.8MHz ... good only at night 08:19 @ hfx_ben> boolean: those are the only feeds I've found ... many 404s 08:20 Knobee> looting @ the "cadillac store" 08:20 boolean> k thanks 08:20 DrBoB> 14.265 is the Salvation Army Net...passing traffic into NO 08:21 boolean> how is this feed comming out, directnic as the base ? 08:21 tolkachi> that's a shitty location description 08:21 Knobee> no, the audio is from a scanner several miles out of town from what I understand -- find more info @ radioreference.com 08:21 @ hfx_ben> DrBob: have you found any feed from there? do you have USB-HF? 08:22 j33n33u5> the scanner feed? 08:22 DrBoB> 14.265 USB , also 7.268 LSB, also 7.290 LSM 08:23 tolkachi> the military must use encrypted channels, dont they? 08:23 @ hfx_ben> wondeful ... thanks bob 08:23 tolkachi> (radio novice) 08:24 Knobee> tolkachi: if they are doing 100% mil comms, probably. Problem comes in when they try to talk to other agencies without similar encryption toys. 08:24 DrBoB> lsb not lsm...lol 08:24 boolean> 2/ws 1 08:24 Knobee> I was gonna ask what LSM was. 08:25 SCSi> hmm 08:25 Knobee> haha... 08:25 SCSi> well shit 08:25 Knobee> loosiana 08:25 Knobee> never heard it pronounced like that... 08:25 Knobee> haha... "If there was a head, I'd be it" 08:25 @ hfx_ben> There's anuthah pronunciashun?! 08:25 Knobee> hahah... 8-) 08:26 Eimann> do you know when we leave it? 08:26 Eimann> they're leaving right now 08:26 Eimann> worng window 08:26 DrBoB> I was trapped on the island of Montserrat in 1989 after Hugo hit as a cat 5... I've noticed the same sort of anarchy there as in NO...except the NO crowds are more violent 08:27 Knobee> probably more guns in NO than on Montserrat. 08:27 @ hfx_ben> The Force 4 that hit us in Halifax was such a surprise ... nailed us right on the nose. 08:27 @ hfx_ben> *AFK for nicotine* 08:28 DrBoB> yes, plus it's way more urban in NO than out on the islands 08:28 @ hfx_ben> DrBob: rpt your callsign please 08:28 tommusic> this CNN story is SO exploitative 08:28 DrBoB> KD5TXO 08:28 @ Teriander> yea i know 08:28 GhostFreeman> Have they begun rescuing the people on the overpasses 08:28 @ Teriander> CNN isn't good at all 08:28 DrBoB> I only have QRP HF capability 08:29 DrBoB> (10 watts) 08:29 @ hfx_ben> QRP rules! I loved winning CW/QRP contests. ;-) 08:29 @ hfx_ben> 10 watts + 3dB gain is plenty ... 'cept for net control 08:29 DrBoB> I do SSB QRP DX work mostly 08:30 @ hfx_ben> lovely 08:30 hfx_ben* is wey partial to weak signal work ... copying Bear bombers in the bad old days 08:30 Topic for #interdictor: official site: mgno.com or livejournal.com/interdictor | #scanner for transcript/URLs | pix: http://sigmund.biz/kat | Cant answer questions on DirectNic at this time, sorry. | http://wiki.nola-intel.org/ 08:30 Topic set by loganattwood ~attwoodl@hlfxns01bbf-142068248251.ns.aliant.net [Thu Sep 1 04:00:40 2005] 08:30 SCSi> blah 08:30 SCSi> server is maxed out 08:30 SCSi> i thought irc servers could handle more people 08:30 SCSi> :( 08:31 @ Teriander> yea 08:31 @ Teriander> im looking into that... 08:31 tolkachi> are all mirrors coming from same (radio) box 08:31 tolkachi> ? 08:31 Eimann> tolkachi: yep 08:31 DrBoB> anyway, I really get Post traumatic stress whenever a hurricane comes around any more.. I found it usually takes a week before relief and poutside support can be expected and a lot can happen in a week 08:32 DrBoB> poutside = outside 08:32 SCSi> well shit 08:32 @ hfx_ben> I get freaked when I see comms fail ... bugs the pants off me. 08:32 @ hfx_ben> SCSI: /some/ is huge ... perfectionism sux 08:33 DrBoB> yip..it's one of the reasons I went ahead and upgraded to general class license 08:33 tolkachi> eimann: i'll be back in 3min 08:33 hfx_ben* did a lot on Maritime Mobile 08:33 Eimann> tolkachi: ok 08:33 @ hfx_ben> When it hits the fan ... good comms rock. 08:34 Eimann> hm, mises.org stream isn't as stable as for 2 or three ours: nop_streaming_read error : Connection reset by peer - after 5 minutes or so 08:34 DrBoB> btw: I wanted to say that the Blog is really excellent and I am glad someone is sharing the experience 08:34 SCSi> blah, shit 08:35 @ hfx_ben> . 08:35 @ hfx_ben> http://216.22.26.45:8002 reports "error synching to mp3" 08:35 Knobee> crowd of people walking, followed by what looks like a VW mini-bus. 08:36 emf> http://www.goodphuck.com:8088/listen.pls seems to be stable, hfx. 08:36 Eimann> Wow, cool, they got fuel :-)) 08:37 nagual678> san antonio doesn't seem to be responding very much :S 08:38 Eimann> ack 08:38 ModusPwnens> they are hiding in the basement of the alamo for protection 08:38 boolean* thought there would be more communications going on, given the situation 08:39 ModusPwnens> what is the situation? 08:39 @ Amish_Hooker> 216.22.26.45 is full 08:39 @ hfx_ben> emf: error synching to mpeg ... maybe something my end? 08:39 emf> Hm. perhaps. 08:40 Eimann> http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 could work 08:40 @ hfx_ben> http://216.22.26.45 is ok now 08:40 @ hfx_ben> transient problems ... sure with guardsmen had better luck! 08:40 Dash> hmm 08:41 SCSi> well crap 08:41 tolkachi> Modus: (2) cops shot at Bonneville (?) exit off I-10; many convoy fuel/medical supply groups; and looting at the "Cadillac store" 08:41 SCSi> ive got the limit set to 1500 08:41 @ hfx_ben> http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 connected immediately ... good one 08:41 Padathir> san antonio really wants to talk to defender 5 >.> 08:42 ModusPwnens> nobody's home 08:42 ModusPwnens> not at pelican 6 either 08:42 raghragh> they are out shopping 08:42 Padathir> ha 08:42 tolkachi> hah 08:42 raghragh> giggle. 08:43 raghragh> anyone have a video stream that isent jacked? 08:43 nagual678> pelican 6 & san antonio = taking a leak 08:43 nagual678> EOC "bad news" 08:43 emf> "baton rouge" 08:44 tolkachi> what is EOC? 08:44 @ Amish_Hooker> Updated: http://interdictor.livejournal.com/ 08:44 @ Amish_Hooker> emergency operations center 08:45 tolkachi> where is the EOC? 08:45 Padathir> presumably baton rouge 08:45 emf> there may be several. 08:45 Padathir> good point 08:46 tolkachi> heh 08:46 tolkachi> yes, but what kind of building 08:46 tolkachi> is it military 08:46 emf> anyone know what pelican is? I'm assuming it's a boat in the gulf.. (good strong signal, talking to a lot of places..) but I could be totally wrong. 08:46 @ Amish_Hooker> it could be a meeting room, a hotel conference center etc 08:47 boolean> anyone have the NOPD feed ? 08:47 daniel_bergamin> based on the mgno.com site, their command and control is completely offline 08:49 Dash> last night was a bit crazy on the feed. at about 2am NO time 08:49 @ Teriander> yes it was 08:49 Padathir> I wish I'd had streamripper set up >.> 08:50 Dash> hmm. after catching up on the blog it is time to see what the mainstream media has 08:50 colin_> Padathir: I think I got most of that ripped. 08:50 Padathir> oh cool 08:50 tolkachi> sorry EIM 08:50 Eimann> Padathir: We've one running 08:50 tolkachi> you can have lead 08:50 colin_> But I'm hoping someone with a better connection than myself has been able to rip all night - I'd really like to download the entire thing once this is over. 08:52 Dash> i am fairly sure that there has been at least 4 people doing feed rips since we first got the link 08:52 idigital> hello, roy 08:52 ModusPwnens> thank god it's all quiet now I'm gonna get some sleep 08:52 colin_> The ods feed seems to be up and down right now. 08:53 nagual678> the scanner must be dead 08:54 colin_* is guessing that they moved to something this scanner can't hear. 08:54 tolkachi> im looking for other sources 08:54 Burke> I love how changing prim type to cylinder or torus kills the damn client 08:54 GhostFreeman> any other camera feeds up sans the two on the site 08:54 boolean> any1 have the NOPD feed ? 08:55 colin_> boolean: /join #scanner 08:55 tolkachi> Ghost: will you post the two video feeds 08:55 Bell_ was kicked from #interdictor by Teriander (Inactive User) 08:55 boolean> thanks 08:55 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*@c-67-171-8-85.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] by Teriander 08:55 Bell_ was kicked from #interdictor by Teriander (Inactive User) 08:56 Eimann> It doesn't help to get more connection slots ;) 08:57 Dash> well, the feed is there, but there isn't much network traffic which can be because of several things 08:57 SCSi> hmm 08:57 tolkachi> amish: what mirror are you on? 08:57 SCSi> shit 08:57 Dash> first, they are trying to keep radio traffic to a minimum for major problems or queries 08:57 GhostFreeman> yeah, tolkachi: mms://204.251.3.10:2864 and http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 08:57 Dash> or second, they are moving the important stuff to encrypted means 08:58 tolkachi> Ghost: the second link is the same feed, just mirrored? 08:58 @ hfx_ben> *AKF* caffeine 08:58 tolkachi> Ghost: sorry, just got it working, nevermind- thanks for the info 08:59 GhostFreeman> np 09:01 pyroman002> i haven't been able to get a webcam feed working, assuming all servers full 09:01 nagual678> wow it's true that this scanner is somewhat sensitive, i just heard a full cell phone number 09:01 nagual678> if i wanted to i could at least annoy people 09:01 chimi> yeah i heard that too a minute ago 09:02 nagual678> obviously not going to, but still 09:02 InternetFriend> did the cam just go down? 09:02 chimi> yup i think so 09:02 @ hfx_ben> Any confirmation of "two cops shot"? 09:02 chimi> nope, cam works now. i seen somone ride by on a bike. 09:02 niftybitch> the server is overloaded 09:02 niftybitch> some people are getting booted 09:02 Padathir> wow 09:03 SCSi> yeah, the server is maxed out 09:03 niftybitch> well DJ's server is too 09:03 colin_> We have an #interdictor channel over on freenode if anyone would like to join. 09:03 GhostFreeman> Can we get some more servers? 09:03 niftybitch> but I was talking about the cam 09:03 @ hfx_ben> What pains me: Indymedia usta be resourceful and active ... #indy was asleep. *sigh* 09:03 niftybitch> scsi has been trying to remove the user limit but he's got to leave for work 09:03 Dark-Fx> boo 09:04 @ mayo> you got a mac around there? :) the streaming/encoding server is free and without limits, heh 09:05 niftybitch> we do but we don't have the time to set it up. =\ 09:05 niftybitch> hell I don't even know the last time it was turned on 09:05 niftybitch> or if it works 09:06 james> Hi 09:06 chimi> hello james 09:06 Knobee> unable to get a 1-800 outbound for the conference call 09:06 @ mayo> niftybitch: heh 09:06 james> Only took 3 hours to get on :) 09:07 desiderius7> inbound 09:07 Burke> Is wrong I find it funny that htey can't get phones working? 09:07 @ hfx_ben> Is wrong that phones don't work. 09:07 @ mayo> well .. if you get PBXs flooded, electronics don't like water much 09:07 Eimann> can't understand it, which base? 09:08 hfx_ben* did telco in a flood area. *shudder* 09:08 emf> 236 base, eimann. 09:08 Dark-Fx> SCSi: any chance you want to split with another server? 09:08 Eimann> emf: oh, ok, thx 09:08 @ Teriander> If you are idle for too long, you will be kicked. 09:08 emf> ei: if I can get a +v in scanner, i can help out a little. 09:08 Encapsulate> hfx_ben: Ugh... Luckily my Phone switch is on the 6th floor of the building! 09:08 @ hfx_ben> DarL that's what I was thinking ... seen it done, but didn't have my hand in. 09:08 douglas_carmich> I'm here and not idling. 09:08 niftybitch> Dark-Fx: he mentioned it but he just left to go to work 09:08 douglas_carmich> (keeping my link up) 09:08 Encapsulate> hfx_ben: And 1900ft above sealevel. 09:08 daniel_bergamin> me too 09:08 niftybitch> just not enough time 09:09 zooted was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (zooted) 09:09 Eimann> emf: can't give +v, i'm no half(op) 09:09 @ hfx_ben> all: have moved to northern prairies. ;-P 09:09 nagual678> CNN has just announced that FEMA is standing down. They are stopping all rescue operations because of the violence. Stream of people heading towards the convention center hoping to get help. No help there just thousands of other survivors, all thinking that boats or buses are coming to take them away. 09:09 niftybitch> I idle a lot but this is my server so I'm allowed. no booting niftybitch please! =) 09:09 douglas_carmich> What will stop the violence? 09:09 Botunda> jesus 09:09 cavortingmonkey> omg 09:09 tolkachi> WHAT? fema is standing down? FEMA is part of Homeland Security 09:09 @ hfx_ben> 1) water, 2) comms 09:10 @ hfx_ben> bad news is gonna make folk crazy 09:10 DrBoB> bunch of chicken sh*t federal wimps 09:10 Botunda> FEMA needs to grab more troops 09:10 Dark-Fx> All they need to do is get some Apache's down there... then people would stop the shooting :D 09:10 @ hfx_ben> News was that personnel were being overwhelmed 09:10 emf> eimann: who's op in #scanner? my stream seems to be behind yours by about 30sec.. can fill in gaps. 09:11 Botunda> to bad many are abraod 09:11 DrBoB> drop some national guard boys in there and let them start shooting for cause 09:11 TheWGP> FEMA can't help people if they can't ensure their boats won't get hijacked, etc 09:11 @ hfx_ben> That's the way it's headed ... 09:11 TheWGP> re: tolkachi 09:12 jussiv> thunderbird 09:12 @ hfx_ben> Can't just have stick ... gotta have carrot too. 09:12 tolkachi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEMA 09:12 DrBoB> true true 09:12 tolkachi> FEMA has the power to secure that city 09:12 Teriander* Test 09:13 tolkachi> they are *not* just a federal aid 09:13 emf> tbird is oklahoma natl guard. 09:13 Botunda> FEMA prett much has the power to do anything 09:13 Knobee> 2300 from Oklahoma... 09:13 TheWGP> logistically though it's a pita obviously 09:13 Knobee> amazing. 09:13 @ mayo> they may have the power, but not necaserily the manpower 09:14 Botunda> yeah hard to get troops if there aren't any 09:14 @ hellion0> awake again 09:15 Dark-Fx> eh... SCSi would have to re-compile the server to get more clients. 09:15 InsomniaCity|fo: is now known as InsomniaCity 09:15 douglas_carmich> how long does that take? 09:15 GhostFreeman> Our tropps are getting stretched thin 09:15 GhostFreeman> troops* 09:15 douglas_carmich> dark-fx>how long does that take? 09:15 InsomniaCity> any interesting news from the scanner? 09:15 chimi> that shouldnt take long at all. 09:15 Botunda> yeah it's actually kinda scary right now 09:15 Dark-Fx> douglas_carmich: not too long, but he'd have to bring down the server in order to do it 09:15 douglas_carmich> 'shutdown -r now'? 09:15 Dark-Fx> heh 09:15 douglas_carmich> or just kill/restart ircd. 09:15 Dark-Fx> just the ircD 09:15 Botunda> if something else were to happen we would be pretty much screwed 09:15 @ Teriander> Server is full. If you are idle for too long, you will be kicked to make room for others. If you have an auto-reconnect, you're risking being banned. 09:16 chimi> he'd only have to restart the server after recompiling, the downtime would be seconds at most 09:16 Dash> just in the past few minutes, they have been talking about what troops are going to be coming in 09:16 emf> InsomniaCity: ok natl guard setting up new station at superdome now. 09:16 Typ0King> this is scary stuff 09:16 TheWGP> that's important tho and needed, not neccessarily scary 09:16 james> Er.. I run an irc server.. since when was the user limit a compile time option? Last I checked, it's in ircd.conf which will reload on HUP. 09:16 tolkachi> 2300 troops in the next few days 09:17 tolkachi> but only 90 tomorrow??? 09:17 tolkachi> wtf 09:17 @ hfx_ben> nahh wey more 09:17 Encapsulate> james: It's compile time in Bahamut, and Cyclone. 09:17 GhostFreeman> we're running out of troops 09:17 tolkachi> or are these "packs"? 09:17 Dark-Fx> james: it is with hybrid 09:17 Encapsulate> james: Likely more of them. 09:17 james> Well that sucks 09:17 chimi> i think unrealircd its compile time also 09:17 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*@panix5.panix.com] by Amish_Hooker 09:17 zooted was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (zooted) 09:18 desiderius7> Teriander: i was in the dj channel all night while asleep and it didn't kick me 09:18 @ hfx_ben> "FEMA has suspended /boat rescue/" ... not "suspended operations" 09:18 james> I could compile it on one of my boxes and link in a new server.. surely C/N lines can be changed without a recompile? 09:18 Encapsulate> Eh... doesn't suck. Just is. A hard limit gets put into config.h and a soft limit in the ircd.conf 09:18 InsomniaCity> what happened about FEMA shutting down Zephyr Field? 09:18 TheWGP> they'll probably have to put a soldier in every boat or something 09:18 ProcrasT8> They just need people to control and coordinate the activity from the SuperDome. 09:18 @ hfx_ben> "just" huh huh 09:18 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*@c-67-177-200-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net] by Amish_Hooker 09:18 yume_no_hikari was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (yume_no_hikari) 09:19 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*@pefmx00.IAD1.asdfg.org] by Amish_Hooker 09:19 young_jeezy was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (young_jeezy) 09:19 @ hfx_ben> What a snafu getting those buses down the highway! 09:19 Dark-Fx> yeah 09:19 WasabiFlux was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (WasabiFlux) 09:19 Knobee> col. swallow. hehe.... 09:20 Dark-Fx> they need to get some of these down in nola: http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ah-64-load.jpg 09:20 @ hfx_ben> What was with that convoy of medical getting into NOLA near outta gas?! 09:20 niftybitch> kicking people from the channel isn't going to boot them from the server 09:20 niftybitch> so you aren't helping anything 09:20 vpn was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (vpn) 09:20 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*@pcp0010297594pcs.dallas01.ga.comcast.net] by Amish_Hooker 09:20 vpn was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (vpn) 09:20 Venge was kicked from #interdictor by Amish_Hooker (Venge) 09:20 chimi> yeah, thats right. unless its from the server, its pointless. 09:20 InsomniaCity> agreed 09:20 mrsquishie[away: is now known as mrsquishie 09:20 niftybitch> and we aren't about to boot people from the server 09:20 cavortingmonkey> why are you kicking folks? I just wanna know so I don't do it. :) 09:21 james> As I said, I'd happily link in a server with a much higher limit if there's someone available to make the config changes 09:21 @ Amish_Hooker> don't idle 09:21 @ Teriander> afk people 09:21 Dark-Fx> Amish_Hooker: kicking from the channel is pointless, the client limit is connections to the server. 09:21 @ hfx_ben> Since folk are coming in ... things seem ok. 09:21 Dark-Fx> not specific channels. 09:21 nagual678> ok 09:21 james> hfx_ben: It took me 3 hours to get in.. as long as people drop now and then, there will always be people coming in 09:22 SCSi> yeah 09:22 SCSi> its a server limit 09:22 Knobee> heh "get off the phone so I can call you" 09:22 SCSi> the server is maxed 09:22 Briana* blinks 09:22 Briana> guess this room is *not* moderated... 09:22 Knobee> should move to one of the big networks 09:22 james> SCSi: See my comment above 09:22 niftybitch> wow frank. you must've hauled ass 09:23 tolkachi> HFX: reading TFA now, thanks for the clarification on FEMA 09:23 @ mayo> Briana: no, unless there are people who can answer questions :) 09:23 Encapsulate> Knobee: If we move a large group of people, we risk violence. 09:23 Tetraboy[Away]> I'm so tired today. 09:23 Briana> ah, okay 09:23 SCSi> yeah 09:23 Knobee> Knobee: If we move a large group of people, we risk violence. 09:23 SCSi> im thinking of just moving this to another network 09:23 Knobee> hahaha... 09:23 cavortingmonkey> lol 09:24 james> freenode might work 09:24 @ Teriander> Server is full. If you are idle for too long, you will be kicked to make room for others. If you have an auto-reconnect, you're risking being banned. 09:24 @ mayo> SCSi: freenode was offering on the blog :) 09:24 niftybitch> Teriander: that is pointless 09:24 niftybitch> it won't boot them from the server 09:24 Padathir> kicking people from the channel doesn't remove them from the server. 09:24 Dark-Fx> Teriander: boot them off the server, kicking from a room won't do shit 09:24 cavortingmonkey> save me windows, I'm opping a channel on freenode already. :) 09:24 Encapsulate> Though, the channel is limited at 250 09:25 chimi> Teriander: yeah, as everyone else said, kicking from channel is 100% pointless nless they get pissed and leave the server afterwards 09:25 DrBoB> freenide has a #interdictor already set up..I bet they would love to be host 09:25 Encapsulate> +l 09:25 TheWGP> chanlimit is pointless 09:25 TheWGP> since the server isn't taking that many people :p 09:25 tolkachi> whos admin on the irc server? 09:25 Encapsulate> TheWGP: Gotcha 09:25 DrBoB> freenode has a #interdictor already set up..I bet they would love to be host 09:25 Knobee> channel limit is silly. 8-( 09:25 DrBoB> lilo = freenode owner 09:25 SCSi> okay 09:26 (Users #interdictor) 09:26 Irssi: #interdictor: Total of 21 nicks [3 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 09:26 Channel #interdictor created Wed Aug 31 21:15:02 2005 09:26 Irssi: Join to #interdictor was synced in 2 secs 09:26 enwilson> Looks like there are at least three active scanner links, if you can believe the Winamp browser 09:26 @ mayo> i'm on both now ... 09:26 chimi> im in both too 09:26 Yog-home> ah...workin' now 09:26 GhostFreeman> im in botj 09:26 GhostFreeman> both* 09:27 crschmidt* can't get that one to work in iTunes 09:27 crschmidt> not sure if that's an iTunes issue though 09:27 mayo> try quicktme ? :) 09:27 crschmidt> but i've listened to shoutcast stuff before with it *shrug* 09:27 enwilson> One's running with 4 backup servers 09:27 hylix> Freenode would work 09:27 TheWGP> move scanner to freenode too? 09:27 GhostFreeman> iTunes will work fine 09:27 @ Teriander> Im looking into it now. 09:27 @ hfx_ben> what did I miss? there's another IRC server? 09:27 hylix> Deadjournal IRC has weird channel limits 09:27 desiderius7: is now known as justinw 09:27 mayo> GhostFreeman: given they are pretty much the same thing with different interface, it should :) 09:28 mrsquishie> Yeah, what are people talking about now, both what? 09:28 tolkachi> who/what is logging scanner? 09:28 Tiffany: is now known as niftybitch 09:28 @ mayo> i'm logging scanner .. don't have the log posted though 09:28 james> Another network. 09:28 chimi> mrsquishie: both irc channels, theres a #Interdictor on freenode 09:28 hylix> I am streamripping the mp3 feed 09:28 @ mayo> i'm logging both channels, actually 09:28 crschmidt* shakes his head. doesn't want to go for me. stupid computer. 09:28 mrsquishie> chimi: Ah, ok, thanks. 09:28 Eimann> tolkachi: afk for 2 minutes 09:28 @ hfx_ben> why be cryptic? why not give server name? 09:28 tolkachi> eim: ok 09:28 james> freenode can handle a lot more users 09:28 enwilson> 3 on one scanner stream, 83 on another, 753 on the third 09:28 Padathir> irc.freenode.net ? 09:28 colin_> Yes. 09:28 chimi> yes 09:28 Encapsulate> Weird.... 09:29 colin_> #interdictor@irc.freenode.net 09:29 @ hfx_ben> k ... thanks 09:29 JimmyWalker> hello room 09:29 Encapsulate> I went to Freenode.com and ended up in an empty #interdictor 09:29 mrsquishie> is anyone transcribing in #scanner here? 09:29 Chimi> heh 09:29 mrsquishie> ah there sorry 09:29 John_K> this is the channel moved from deadjournal right? 09:29 tolkachi> mr squish: i'm +1min 09:29 colin_> John_K: Correct. 09:29 niftybitch> should put the new location in the topic 09:29 DrBoB> standby...many are coming 09:29 John_K> great 09:29 ServerMode/#interdictor [+o OperServ] by aphex.vadept.com 09:29 Mode: #interdictor[+o SCSi] by OperServ 09:30 Encapsulate> by bus, boat, and mIRC 09:30 mrsquishie> damn...woman going into labor? 09:30 DrBoB> I think they are all coming over here 09:30 niftybitch> you guys should put the name in the topic over on dj server 09:30 justinw> first katrina baby? 09:30 SCSi changed the topic of #interdictor to: We're moving to irc.freenode.net in #interdictor 09:30 DrBoB> from deadjournal 09:30 John_K> frank is moving people over as we speak 09:30 nagual678> would be great to get ahold of interdictor and tell him to point IRC links to here 09:30 SCSi changed the topic of #interdictor to: We're moving to irc.freenode.net in #interdictor (Mush! Mush! This server is hosed!) 09:30 WisTodd> so will this be shut down completely then? 09:30 enwilson> cool 09:30 ProcrasT8> Someone should copy the topic over here. 09:30 niftybitch> ha 09:30 John_K> i think they're just going to point the dns here 09:30 colin_> SCSi: If I can get ops in the freenode channel I'll go ahead and op all of you. 09:30 niftybitch> the server won't be WisTodd 09:30 niftybitch> it's used for other channels 09:30 enwilson> Oh, that should be fun 09:30 crschmidt> agentace Dark-Fx Nite_Sleep -- anyone to set the topic? 09:30 Eimann> re 09:30 colin_> I think the people that registered the channel are gone at the moment. 09:31 niftybitch> the channel could stay here but there is no user limit on freenode 09:31 Tetraboy> Do we have a scanner channel here? 09:31 @ doofew> colin 1 min 09:31 crschmidt> (or mode -t) 09:31 hfx_ben> hey ... no connection ... 09:31 WisTodd> just wondering if I can stay here for #interdictor or if I have to move. 09:31 niftybitch> you can stay here 09:31 tolkachi> someone will let me know when to move to new channel? 09:31 niftybitch> you can go to both if you wanted 09:31 UdontKnow> hi 09:31 niftybitch> tolkachi: people are there already 09:31 @ hfx_ben> gack ... that just creates a 2nd room. 09:31 Teriander> I will... 09:31 WisTodd> what would the point be of that, niftybitch? 09:31 @ doofew> colin i am there 09:31 Knobee> someone going to man #scanner on freenode? 09:31 DrBoB> give Teriander ops please 09:31 niftybitch> so you can keep up with what's going on in both rooms? 09:31 (Users #interdictor) 09:31 Irssi: #interdictor: Total of 43 nicks [3 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 40 normal] 09:31 colin_> DrBoB: I think agentace and company are all AFK. 09:31 Botunda> jesus christ 09:32 @ SCSi> no 09:32 hfx_ben> This server has greater capacity? 09:32 ProcrasT8> It's easier to keep everything coordinated to one room. 09:32 @ SCSi> im shuttin this one down 09:32 Botunda> all those people waiting for the buses 09:32 WisTodd> oh... hmmm... a lot of Mirc aspects go over my head, heheh 09:32 TheWGP> that's the idea, yes 09:32 niftybitch> ah 09:32 John_K> much 09:32 UdontKnow> what is this channel about? 09:32 TheWGP> do a /users 09:32 WisTodd> I figured one was just a mirror of the other. 09:32 crschmidt> hfx_ben: that would be an understatement 09:32 @ SCSi> no 09:32 niftybitch> the whole server SCSi ? 09:32 @ SCSi> yes 09:32 Teriander> Any OPs at keyboard? 09:32 hfx_ben> great 09:32 doofoo> op doofoo 09:32 crschmidt> UdontKnow: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ 09:32 niftybitch> uh... ? 09:32 chimi> +m this one, then eveyrone can just read topic and goto other. 09:32 enwilson> It's about to blow up, that's what it's about. :) 09:32 WisTodd> adios, then, I guess. 09:32 hfx_ben> now if ops would open up we could set topic 09:32 @ Teriander> Server is full. If you are idle for too long, you will be kicked to make room for others. If you have an auto-reconnect, you're risking being banned. 09:32 Mode: #interdictor[+m] by SCSi 09:32 @ doofew> colin 09:33 John_K> whoever is in chage should go to #freenode and summon some help, explain the situation and they shoudl op you 09:33 @ doofew> op me on interdictor on freenode - name doofoo 09:33 DrBoB> UdontKnow = freenode staff 09:33 John_K> charge* 09:33 Eimann> re 09:33 John_K> ahh 09:33 DrBoB> lilo = freenode owner 09:33 @ hfx_ben> Someone should copy the topic from #scanner 09:33 scromp> ugh. 09:33 @ mayo> same for me .. same nick as here :) 09:33 JimmyWalker> So how many people here are in New Orleans? 09:33 scromp> "do we have any other medical assets, I've got a lady about to go into labor" 09:34 Botunda> scromp:that from the scanner 09:34 Botunda> ? 09:34 scromp> yeah 09:34 John_K> what's that from scromp? 09:34 John_K> ahh 09:34 scromp> national guard scanner 09:34 (Users #interdictor) 09:34 Irssi: #interdictor: Total of 47 nicks [3 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 44 normal] 09:34 doofoo> ok ops, what op is here? 09:34 Botunda> I wonder what they'll name the baby if it's a girl ;^) 09:34 Teriander> looks like the OPs here are AFK, I may have find another host. 09:34 doofoo> need an op here to start updating the channel with info. 09:34 doofoo> Yeah I think we'll move it teriander 09:34 Chimi> say their names, maybe they have highlighters 09:34 ravuya> Teriander, go ask in #freenode, they'll fix it 09:35 DrBoB> UdontKnow...please give Teriander ops 09:35 mayo> Dark-Fx Nite_Sleep agentace 09:35 enwilson> I almost hate to swamp those guys like this, but I've got a link to the Louisiana scanner with almost 1200 open slots 09:35 JimmyWalker> whats the link to the national gaurd scanner? 09:35 scromp> shoutcast.com -> search "louisiana scanner" 09:35 crschmidt> mayo: I already tried that. 09:35 enwilson> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5975&file=filename.pls 09:35 doofoo> http://ods.org:8001/scan 09:35 DrBoB> UdontKnow: please give Teriander ops 09:35 doofoo> is scanner 09:35 mayo> crschmidt: :) 09:35 UdontKnow> DrBoB: hmmm, I cant do it 09:35 @ SCSi> ls 09:35 @ SCSi> shit 09:35 DrBoB> dag! 09:35 daniel_bergamin> http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 09:35 hfx_ben: is now known as hfx_ben2 09:35 mayo> crschmidt: it never hurts to annoy them 09:35 crschmidt> doofoo: that one seems to be a static file now 09:36 doofoo> it's not 09:36 doofoo> I am listening right now :) 09:36 UdontKnow> DrBoB: network staff is bound to respect channel staff decisions on this 09:36 crschmidt> doofoo: tried it a couple minutes ago, just got the same recording 3 times in a row 09:36 UdontKnow> DrBoB: I am not entitled to op people 09:36 doofoo> i run that server ;) 09:36 doofoo> it's working fine.. 09:36 Botunda> lenwilson: thanks 09:36 doofoo> 146 people online 09:36 crschmidt> doofoo: well, all i'm getting is the same recording over and over *shrug* 09:36 Botunda> enwilson: thanks 09:36 UdontKnow> if you guys have any trouble, I am around though 09:36 doofoo> lol.. 09:36 hfx_ben> 3 ops here ... no replies from them ... no topic set *shrug* 09:36 doofoo> okay I think we'll move it to another network 09:36 DrBoB> UdontKnow: thanks anyway 09:37 Pete_O> Hi guys 09:37 doofoo> or i'll setup a irc server. 09:37 doofoo> was away for a bit 09:37 Yog-home> heh..this chan is filling up :) 09:37 Pete_O> Checking in from the UK 09:37 niftybitch> is it that important to have OPs immediately? 09:37 scromp> that's kind of retarded 09:37 Pete_O> Is #scanner up on this IRC as well? 09:37 niftybitch> can't wait for 5 minutes? 09:37 daniel_bergamin> yes 09:37 Pete_O> What's the latest? 09:37 tolkachi> coming in now 09:37 colin_> I think we should just stick with freenode for the time being - the ops have to return eventually. 09:37 Chimi> true. 09:37 Knobee> so, what's a "cryptocommie"? 09:37 doofoo> yes I think it's important 09:37 douglas_carmich> does freenode have a web interface? 09:37 niftybitch> why? 09:37 doofoo> as we were keeping everyone updated and in control on the other server 09:38 Knobee> someone called me one on the blog. 09:38 niftybitch> well wait a bit and you'll be able to do that here 09:38 scromp> what's important is people being able to actually join the channel, which was not true of deadjournal 09:38 doofoo> and if not, it'll get out of control. :) 09:38 scromp> the topic, pfeh 09:38 douglas_carmich> trying to get some support for those who can't feed their babies. 09:38 niftybitch> being impatient and bouncing from server to server is what will make it become out of control 09:38 niftybitch> you'll just confuse people 09:38 Yog-home> Amish_Hooker: how are u getting the Louisianna scanner in Wisconsin ? 09:38 doofoo> umm 09:38 doofoo> All people are coming to that other server anyways 09:38 Yog-home> Amish_Hooker: rebroadcasting some other feed ? 09:38 hfx_ben> Have the biggest server as main portal 09:38 doofoo> and we'll point the blog whereever we are. 09:38 niftybitch> yea and they are being directed here 09:38 doofoo> so that is not a issue 09:39 nagual678> bouncing from server to server ? there is no reason to move out of freenode 09:39 Pete_O> Anybody want to fill me in? 09:39 niftybitch> you will get your precious ops eventually 09:39 niftybitch> just wait a bit 09:39 snarky|away> Why not just make a new chan here? #interdictors or something? 09:39 Eimann> re 09:39 doofoo> this is what I am talking about. 09:39 Amish_Hooker> I am running a relay of the main stream 09:39 snarky|away> Then y'all will have ops and whatnot. 09:39 JamesG> jeez people, have some patience 09:39 colin_> Alright, everyone join ##interdictor. 09:39 niftybitch> exactly 09:39 colin_> It's freenode policy anyway. 09:39 @ SCSi> Head on over to irc.freenode.net! 09:39 Yog-home> Amish_Hooker: ah.. figured as much 09:39 tolkachi> EMF: are you running *scanner? 09:39 John_K> guys just be patient 09:39 @ SCSi> the channel is moving over yonder 09:40 @ SCSi> the're setup to handle the load 09:40 @ SCSi> im not 09:40 John_K> no need tos tart a new channel 09:40 hfx_ben> It's swarm ... anybody can setup a channel ... not that I'd advise it 'course. 09:40 emf_> no.. i don't have ops tolkachi 09:40 niftybitch> geezus. Just wait a bit 09:40 John_K> this way frank can just redirect his ric server dns to freenode and nothing has to change on the page 09:40 niftybitch> you are being ridiculous 09:40 mayo> dammit don't go creating new channels, it's gona screw things up 09:40 colin_> Everyone please join ##interdictor so we can get ops sorted out etc. 09:40 @ hfx_ben2> SCSI: you a deadjournal type? 09:40 doofoo> How would you guys feel if the scanner feed was offline? ;) 09:40 doofoo> lol 09:40 mayo> just wait a bit 09:40 niftybitch> no colin_ 09:40 hfx_ben2* lost his deadjournal account info 09:40 errr> why doesnt someone msg staff and link them to the blog and ask them to let a directNIC employee take control of the room? 09:40 @ SCSi> heh 09:40 @ SCSi> open a support request 09:40 niftybitch> how old are you guys? where is your common sense 09:40 Pete_O> OK - Is there anything I can do in the UK to help with mirrors etc 09:40 @ SCSi> i cant do anything from here at this moment 09:40 @ Teriander> Server is full. If you are idle for too long, you will be kicked to make room for others. If you have an auto-reconnect, you're risking being banned. 09:40 @ mayo> hahah 09:41 @ hfx_ben2> might just do that ... good on ya, BTW. You know that, yaa? 09:41 tolkachi> EMF: i'll be back in an hour, need some food 09:41 Chimi> errr is right, worth a try. 09:41 @ SCSi> heh 09:41 @ SCSi> :) 09:41 doofoo> nifty, you are the only one that is getting your feathers ruffled. 09:41 colin_> niftybitch: It's freenode policy to make 'about' channels ## anyway. 09:41 @ hfx_ben2> ^5 09:41 niftybitch> no I'm not 09:41 theagent> where can I find the radio feeds for National Guard or NOPD 09:41 colin_> If we don't get ops etc. sorted out, this is going to start looking very much like the Superdome :P 09:41 niftybitch> I could care less 09:41 niftybitch> I just think you guys are being dumb 09:41 @ hfx_ben2> We do what we can as we can ... of nobody is expected more. 09:41 niftybitch> OMG I HAVE NO OPS 09:41 niftybitch> lame 09:41 doofoo> nifty 09:41 doofoo> are you listening to our streams? 09:41 tolkachi> EIM + EMF: hopefully this channel situation will be resolved, please PM me if there are changes and I can help 09:41 niftybitch> no I'm not 09:41 Amish_Hooker> this move was planned out well 09:42 doofoo> not listening to any stream? 09:42 niftybitch> the only reason I even know of this is because I'm an admin on DJ 09:42 crschmidt> hah, just gave out a number over the stream 09:42 mayo> colin_: the other channel wasn't moderated for a long time and it was just fine 09:42 Yog-home> oh..everyone coming from other server to here ? 09:42 errr> doofoo: whats a link to the stream? 09:42 theagent> where can I find the radio feeds for National Guard or NOPD? 09:42 colin_> mayo: It was fine until it was posted on the blog. 09:42 doofoo> http://ods.org:8001/scan 09:42 zdiver> yog-home, yep 09:42 colin_> Which took about 5 minutes. 09:42 crschmidt> Yog-home: that's the plan 09:42 hfx_ben> yog: this one has more capacity 09:42 @ SCSi> yeah 09:42 @ SCSi> thats true 09:42 emf_> bah. how'd we end up with no ops in scanner? 09:42 John_K> much more capacity 09:42 Yog-home* waits for +m :) 09:42 @ SCSi> unfortunally i didnt expect like 150+ ppl to be in here 09:42 hfx_ben> Now I can post this. 09:42 @ SCSi> or on this server 09:42 Knobee* is working on setting up (another) audio relay 09:43 Pavix> I could bump my relay up to 1k users 09:43 TheWGP> a "jason42" apparently joined scanner first 09:43 Pavix> if people need on 09:43 TheWGP> that's all 09:43 Yog-home> Amish_Hooker: yours is Natl gaurd right, not NOPD ? 09:43 niftybitch> was there a point to your question doofoo ? 09:43 SCSi changed the topic of #interdictor to: We're moving to irc.freenode.net in ##interdictor (Mush! Mush! This server is hosed!) 09:43 doofoo> what question? 09:43 zdiver> is there a url for the audio feed? 09:43 theagent> http://ods.org:8001/scan 09:43 niftybitch> haha... 09:43 niftybitch> oh goodness 09:43 doofoo> about the feeds? 09:43 zdiver> tyl 09:44 Chimi> i have like 1 or 1.5TB of extra bandwidth, if needbe i can setup a relay or something i suppose. 09:44 niftybitch> yes 09:44 @ mayo> see the topic :) 09:44 doofoo> The point of my question was to get a resposne. 09:44 doofoo> response 09:44 doofoo> :) 09:44 @ hfx_ben2> It stayed up real well through the night. 09:44 @ SCSi> yeah 09:44 Yog-home> well.. the interdictor picture page is completely hammered 09:44 @ mayo> yea 09:44 @ SCSi> now its just hosed 09:44 colin_> Again, we have another channel set up in ##interdictor, and it actually has ops present ;) 09:45 crschmidt* yawns 09:45 crschmidt> one channel is plenty 09:45 niftybitch> damn 09:45 niftybitch> yea 09:45 @ SCSi> not really designed to take this many connections 09:45 daniel_bergamin> let's setup 10 channels, then everyone can have ops on their own channel 09:45 Yog-home> Dark-Fx was here not too long ago 09:45 hfx_ben> Is there a web applet for this server? 09:45 Prodigy_B> Hi all. 09:45 WisTodd> Yog-home, my sense is that there is barely a NOPD at this point, much less comms from them. 09:45 John_K> hfx_ben: not that I know of 09:46 enwilson> HFX: Don't think so...that's probably why the traffic here was so thin 09:46 @ SCSi> but i must say, from what i see order was kept pretty well in here 09:46 @ SCSi> got a few ops 09:46 niftybitch> I should start another # so I can have ops. 09:46 @ doofew> yeah. 09:46 @ SCSi> etc 09:46 crschmidt> http://crschmidt.net/irc/ 09:46 @ SCSi> heh 09:46 @ doofew> but on freenode 09:46 crschmidt> there is now 09:46 @ doofew> it's a cluster bomb 09:47 @ SCSi> you cant find an oper to get ops back in the channel? 09:47 @ doofew> nope 09:47 Burke> heh 09:47 @ Amish_Hooker> way better than the short time freenode has been used 09:47 Yog-home> WisTodd: yeh.. i got that impresssion too from the blog 09:47 @ doofew> wasn't planned too well 09:47 enwilson> So we'll have a trail of pound signs, will we? 09:47 @ SCSi> well crap 09:47 Burke> hey all 09:47 @ doofew> we got ##interdictor up temp 09:47 @ doofew> at least to keep some control 09:47 Tetraboy> We gotta pick one channel, and post it on blog. 09:47 Botunda> yeah, how many shannles are there gong to be with all of this 09:47 yume_no_hikari* returns - hey, put something in the kick text if y'all move again. 09:47 enwilson> Make the /list look like a game of Centipede. :) 09:47 @ mayo> SCSi: they won't op, cause there are ops already .. that's their policy 09:48 DrBoB> use ##interdictor@irc.freenode.net 09:48 @ Teriander> they said that? 09:48 ravuya> I heard this morning that FEMA is planning on pulling out, anyone got a source on that? 09:48 Prodigy_B> Last I heard, he was taking on diesel. My web access is kinda limited. Any word since then? 09:48 colin_> There's no reason not to move over to ##interdictor. 09:48 Knobee> FEMA can't pull out... 09:48 Chimi> ravuya: i think i seen it on cnn.com 09:48 mrsquishie> goto CNN's front page and look at their developing story 09:48 @ mayo> Teriander: server ops did .. that's the general freenode policy 09:48 hfx_ben> first rate crschmidt 09:48 niftybitch> colin_: there's no reason to move over there 09:48 tara_> hi 09:48 @ SCSi> even in an opless channel? 09:48 knightfoo> CNN announced the FEMA was putting a hold on rescue operations for the time being 09:48 @ doofew> it's not opless 09:48 Knobee> FEMA is stopping the boat rescues due to dangers to the rescuers. 09:48 @ doofew> the ops are just gone. 09:48 @ mayo> opless gets auto oped 09:48 mrsquishie> Knobee: they're afraid for the safety of the rescuers. Once they can get enough escorts they'll probably resume. 09:48 tara_> wow. that's fucked up/ 09:48 knightfoo> people were shooting at helicopters earlier 09:48 scromp> got a lot more guard coming in soon 09:48 Kheirag> Is there a freenode scanner transcript channel? 09:48 @ doofew> that channel is a fucking mess 09:49 scromp> to the tune of 2300 09:49 Knobee> can't have the rescuers being shot. 1) preservation of self 2) preservation of others 3) preservation of property. 09:49 niftybitch> you think they'd be smarter than to shoot at the people that are coming to help them 09:49 @ SCSi> everyone back here! 09:49 @ SCSi> heh 09:49 @ Teriander> Im going to find another server 09:49 douglas_carmich> How is Houston holding up? 09:49 @ doofew> ahaha 09:49 JamesG> Kheirag: #scanner 09:49 @ Teriander> Server is full. If you are idle for too long, you will be kicked to make room for others. If you have an auto-reconnect, you're risking being banned. 09:49 JamesG> Oddly enough 09:49 @ SCSi> bah, turn that timer off 09:49 Eimann> nope. #interdictor-scanner please 09:49 hfx_ben> FEMA has suspended /boat evacuation/ ... not operations 09:49 JamesG> Right, now my wife has taken the baby I can type with both hands :) 09:49 jvanpelt> wtf were they thinking shooting at a helicopter 09:49 JamesG> Oh FFS 09:49 @ Teriander> i just did, thanks 09:49 Kheirag> I don't know what the situation at the Dome is... I suppose I could drive over there. 09:49 JamesG> How many channels do we need? 09:49 tara_> lol 09:49 Kheirag> I heard they're getting free admission to Asstroworld though. 09:50 theagent> is there any other reflectors for the webcam? I keep losing the cam 09:50 Eimann> JamesG: Two, #interdictor and #interdictor-scanner 09:50 JamesG> What was wrong with #scanner? 09:50 ravuya> hfx_ben, yeah, I just read that. Thanks 09:50 Eimann> JamesG: We've no op, so we can't the it moderated 09:50 soundunit> a CNN reporter is making it sound like hes being symapthetic to the people who are acting like animals. worried that the media is going to twist this whole situation. 09:50 @ ICMB> I can't even connect to freenode. 09:50 pyroman002> yeah 09:50 ProcrasT8> They don't have a doctor for the lady that's about to give birth. 09:50 knightfoo> jvanpelt: probably the same people who are stealing liquor and cigarettes instead of food and water .. 09:50 Knobee> oh my god... 09:50 justinw> wow 09:50 enwilson> No medical for the pregnant lady...that sucks 09:50 justinw> "any recommendations on how to give birth?" 09:50 mrsquishie> jesus. 09:50 Knobee> we get to listen to them birthing a child. 09:51 ProcrasT8> Looks like he's going to have to wing it. 09:51 knightfoo> push! 09:51 JamesG> Eimann: Fair enough then. 09:51 DrBoB> I could talk them through it 09:51 hfx_ben> wow ... having a delivery with little clean water ... not happy 09:51 niftybitch> the scanner doesn't even work for me 09:51 DopefishJustin> hopefully that would be part of first aid training 09:51 @ SCSi> last time i used a timer it said "looking for disk 4 of doom 2!" in #warez666 on undernet 09:51 jvanpelt> the good side about people stealing liquor is that perhaps they'll dehydrate themselves 09:51 Mode: ##interdictor[+o mayo] by colin_ 09:51 JamesG> Eimann: I might transcribe a little if you can +v me 09:51 Karnak> child birth != first aid 09:51 Knobee> as we were always taught -- it's natural -- women did it for thousands of years without doctors, so she can deal with it. 09:51 @ SCSi> freenode is dead? 09:51 hfx_ben> try http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner ... good feed here 09:51 @ mayo> hmm no 09:51 Eimann> JamesG: mom 09:51 John_K> the shoutcast one worked jsut fine for me... 09:51 JamesG> Knobee: My wife gave birth recently, honestly I have no idea how humans have survived as a species. 09:51 @ mayo> thx 09:51 Yog-home> yeh...just push it out and bite the cord off 09:51 Yog-home* grins 09:51 Knobee> heh... 09:51 Karnak> i bet she isn't the only person in NO who has given birth during this =P 09:51 douglas_carmich> I know of a couple who is willing to go to Houston and help that mother.. 09:51 theagent> feed not found 09:51 douglas_carmich> should they go? 09:51 @ hellion0> hm? 09:52 Eimann> JamesG: done, good luck and thanks 09:52 dtj> birth happens lots in places that don't have water, period 09:52 douglas_carmich> (They are in Austin.) 09:52 soundunit> they stole snacks like chips and shit everything wuth salt and sugar in it. of course they are going ot et thristy. serves them right 09:52 Karnak> use a mirror 09:52 douglas_carmich> Should they go? 09:52 theagent> The source you requested could not be found. 09:52 mrsquishie> Knobee: yes, but remember that successful pregnancies weren't as common back then 09:52 @ colin_> No problem. 09:52 @ ICMB> I can't connect, but it might be my work setup 09:52 Knobee> JamesG: yeah, I've seen both of my kids born... amazing stuff.. glad I wasn't involved (er... that's not quite right, is it?) 09:52 @ hellion0> am i hearing that you guys need a server? 09:52 enwilson> aw bummer, somebody had a mirror with 1300 slots set up 09:52 jvanpelt> and it'd hurt like a motherfucker 09:52 Karnak> theagent: the main feed has a very low user cap, use a mirror 09:52 enwilson> HAD...I got 401 on all 3 09:52 JamesG> Knobee: heh, I think you had something to do with it :) 09:52 Knobee> mrsquishie: true, it used to be survival of the fittest. 8-( 09:52 @ SCSi> more of a network 09:52 @ hellion0> i run one. 09:52 @ SCSi> we're moving everyone over to freenode 09:52 @ hfx_ben2> hellion ... folk have move to freenode 09:52 theagent> where do I find the mirrors? 09:52 @ hellion0> we've got space enough. 09:52 Knobee> she'll be fine. no worries. 09:52 @ mayo> connected just fine 09:52 John_K> douglas_carmicha: I doubt they'd be able to get to her, even if they could convince someone to let them in 09:53 mrsquishie> Knobee: I'm afraid it's looking closer to that than civilization in NO now. :( 09:53 @ SCSi> you guys can dish it out, i have to get back to work.. :( 09:53 enwilson> Search "louisiana scanner" on Shoutcast.com... 09:53 Knobee> mrsquishie: no doubts. 09:53 niftybitch> hfx_ben: that turns up with 404 09:53 jvanpelt> anyone know what's up with East Jeff hospital? 09:53 adamhill> i have just gotten back from Kenner LA 09:53 @ mayo> oh shit 09:53 Mode: ##interdictor[+o ICMB] by colin_ 09:53 enwilson> That'll give you the current count of open slots, too 09:53 @ mayo> i forgot to go back to work 09:53 @ ICMB> There we go. 09:53 tara_> is there anything that people outside the area can do to help - besides donating money? 09:53 @ hfx_ben2> The ops in freenode are /totally /asleep// 09:53 @ mayo> time to run and catch the bus, heh 09:53 adamhill> it was pretty much dry as of Wednesday 09:54 Mode: ##interdictor[+o hellion0] by colin_ 09:54 @ mayo> be back in hour or so 09:54 @ SCSi> heh 09:54 Mode: #interdictor[-m] by SCSi 09:54 soundunit> mgno.com is timing out for me which sucks 09:54 douglas_carmich> She should put the baby to breast IMMEDIATELY AFTER BIRTH. 09:54 niftybitch> nothing works for me 09:54 @ hfx_ben2> Is anyone going to transcribe in #scanner@freenode? 09:54 @ hellion0> like i said, i oper elsewhere, wouldn't mind hosting the chanels on my network. 09:54 DopefishJustin> http://us3.comclub.org:8000/no_scanner works 09:54 douglas_carmich> To cut down on hemorrhaging.. 09:54 knightfoo> tara_: i heard they were acceptiong donations of toiletries and bedding 09:54 crschmidt> soundunit: switch to http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ 09:54 Fwi-Song> invite refugess into their homes? 09:54 douglas_carmich> I have some information from La Leche League regarding breastfeeding... 09:54 douglas_carmich> in disasters. 09:54 douglas_carmich> Where should I post it? 09:54 @ SCSi> well, it has to go somewhere, the server cant handle anymore connections 09:54 ProcrasT8> is anyone even transribing anymore in #scanner? 09:54 @ hfx_ben2> dunno that folk want to switch again ... maybe it'd be good to establish sanity as backup, though 09:54 Prodigy_B> Also, that kid is going to need all the antibodies it can get in that area. 09:54 crschmidt> Prodigy_B: #interdictor-scanner 09:54 @ Amish_Hooker> I managed to get them transcribing in #interdictor-scanner on freenode 09:54 @ mayo> hfx_ben2: they are 09:54 colin_> We have ops in ##interdictor at the moment. 09:55 douglas_carmich> prodigy_b>she should PUT THE KID TO BREAST IMMEDIATELY! 09:55 crschmidt> #scanner was already taken on this network 09:55 ProcrasT8> Ah, thanks. 09:55 @ hfx_ben2> mayo: where? 09:55 douglas_carmich> if the mom just gave birth, and it's within even, say, 5 days of birth, they can get a full supply quickly by putting baby too breast VERY frequently every 2hrs or more frequently... 09:55 tara_> knightfoo: any idea where to send them to? 09:55 @ mayo> #scanner on freenode afaik 09:55 crschmidt> er, ProcrasT8, sorry. 09:55 douglas_carmich> Milk is 87% water...GET LIQUID FREQUENTLY... 09:55 douglas_carmich> (the mother should) 09:55 douglas_carmich> If the mother has not just recently given birth (up to 6mos after birth): 09:55 douglas_carmich> She can relactate by putting baby to breast every 2 hrs, milk will increase 1oz every 24 hrs. 09:55 douglas_carmich> at the end of 7 days, making 7oz.. 09:55 douglas_carmich> in 2wks, 14oz... 09:55 douglas_carmich> by about 1mo, full supply.. 09:55 @ hfx_ben2> are you there? 09:55 knightfoo> tara_: Red Cross or Salvation Army 09:55 Prodigy_B> douglas : I'm agreeing with you. 09:55 @ mayo> #interdictor-scanner now 09:55 @ mayo> they moved there 09:55 douglas_carmich> can we get that message into the zone? 09:55 @ hfx_ben2> zero transcription ... no topic ... chat 09:55 @ hfx_ben2> are you there?! 09:55 douglas_carmich> or onto the site? 09:56 knightfoo> the Weston Centre in San Antonio is matching donations dollar for dollar made by any building tenants .. if anyone works in a similar place, they should check if their company is willing to do the same 09:56 @ hfx_ben2> #scanner is just noise on freenode 09:56 @ hfx_ben2> op answered zero queries and did zero 09:56 mrsquishie> hfxben2 join #interdictor-scanner 09:57 mrsquishie> for transcript 09:57 mrsquishie> on freenode 09:57 @ hfx_ben2> k ... thanks for info 09:57 tara_* is in Canada - so I can't take people into my home - unfortunately 09:57 theagent> is there a reflector for the webcam? 09:57 @ hfx_ben2> that should be in topic of #interdictor there 09:57 @ hfx_ben2> but the ops are asleep 09:57 @ hellion0> i'm over there as well now. 09:57 mrsquishie> yeah 09:57 niftybitch> http://www.livejournal.com/interests.bml?int=hurricane+katrina 09:57 knightfoo> canadian dollars work too 09:57 tara_> and it seems... well... ineffectual to just give money 09:57 niftybitch> douglas_carmicha: post in any of those communities 09:57 niftybitch> maybe all? 09:57 scromp> mises.org mirror is working for me 09:57 theagent> http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 keeps crapping out 09:57 Tetraboy[Away]> I'm in all 4 chans on freenode. 09:57 mrsquishie> tara_: actually the charities are saying money is better than supplies 09:58 knightfoo> money is the best thing right now, because not just anyone can drive in and drop things off 09:58 tara_> yah. 09:58 tara_> I know. 09:58 Mode: ##interdictor[+o ICMB2] by ICMB 09:58 mrsquishie> since they don't know exactly what people need, and they gotta buy stuff 09:58 knightfoo> dont need a bunch of fools in suburbans cruising into a disaster area 09:58 @ SCSi> 99% of this room is idle 09:58 @ SCSi> heh 09:58 douglas_carmich> niftybitch>will it have to be approved? 09:58 douglas_carmich> I'm here.. 09:58 @ SCSi> 98 09:58 niftybitch> do you have an lj account? 09:58 enwilson> If the directnic.com Versus Looters link buckles under again, I found a Coralized backup... 09:58 ICMB2 changed the topic of ##interdictor to: ##interdictor - http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor | Scanner transcripts: #interdictor-scanner 09:58 enwilson> http://sigmund.biz.nyud.net:8090/kat/index.html 09:58 DrBoB> no voice 09:58 zdiver> nice 09:58 dtj> knightfoo, they should just drive down there anyways. they will be robbed at gunpoint and thus have donated money 09:59 DrBoB> d'oh 09:59 @ mayo> and i'll be back, heh 09:59 @ SCSi> its not set -m 09:59 tara_> oh that's horrible 09:59 knightfoo> you guys need extra bandwidth or mirror space? :) 09:59 John_K> the livejournal link works fine 09:59 Tetraboy[Away]> Do we have chanserv on freenode? 09:59 niftybitch> douglas_carmicha: create an LJ and post in those communities I linked to https://www.livejournal.com/create.bml 09:59 @ hellion0> unsure. 09:59 @ SCSi> but hi everyone! welcome to the deadjournal irc server 09:59 @ SCSi> we usually dont have as many ppl on here 09:59 colin_> Yes, freenode has ChanServ. 09:59 @ ICMB2> So do we not have any ops/voices in the scanner channel receiving the stream or what? 09:59 JamesG> Wait until it gets posted on Slashdot 09:59 @ SCSi> but you're free to stay and hang around or something 09:59 tolkachi> hah 09:59 Tetraboy> #interdictor-scanner 09:59 Chimi> yeah, ill say it again, i have somewhere btween 1 and 1.5TB of extra bandwidth this month most likley, if i can help.. 09:59 nagual678> any update on the birth ? 10:00 Padathir> #scanner = dead 10:00 Prodigy_B> The last living datacenter in the city. That'll draw crowds from ./ for sure. 10:00 @ hfx_ben2> #interdictor-scanner is running on freenode 10:00 knightfoo> i have a server on what is essentially a 100Mbit unmetered port, and 80 GB of disk space to spare 10:00 jvanpelt> i think kottke or boingboing pointed to the LJ site 10:00 @ ICMB2> There's no chat happening in #interdictor-scanner right now. 10:00 Dash> scsi? sorry for killing the server XD 10:00 ProcrasT8> Yes there is. 10:00 @ SCSi> i thought the server could take more than this 10:00 @ SCSi> im a bit dissapointed 10:00 @ ICMB2> Oh, balls. Was scrolled up. Sorry 10:00 ProcrasT8> I think it's just kind of dead on the scanner right now. 10:00 snarky|away> metafilter and somethingawful forums have links up, too. 10:00 enwilson> boingboing, definitely 10:00 ProcrasT8> I haven't heard anything over the past few minutes. 10:00 niftybitch> if you guys designate a spot for info I can have boingboing post it. Cory was my roommate 10:01 Neit> bb did last night, /. is always a couple of days behind the times 10:01 tara_> really? 10:01 enwilson> SA has their servers downstairs 10:01 Chimi> bleh im limited on bandwidth, but it is 100mbit and i have probably 40GB space free, fast server. 10:01 Beave> wow. 10:01 tara_> niftybitch: Cory went to the same summer camp as me 10:01 Burke> The REgister has a post up on it 10:01 hfx_ben> #interdictor-scanner is running well 10:01 Tetraboy> Alot is going on. 10:01 colin_* will be back later. 10:01 Chimi> /. isnt behind unless no one submits the story for a few days lol 10:01 niftybitch> haha nice 10:01 niftybitch> yea I lived with him in london last year 10:01 Padathir> oh wow this guy is mad 10:01 douglas_carmich> niftybitch>what should I call it? baby_info? 10:01 jussiv> coral cache to the rescue 10:02 hfx_ben> Can't any op set topic to include #interdictor-scanner? 10:02 knightfoo> /. only accepts the most useless or duplicated entries 10:02 tara_> about baby birth info 10:02 theagent> I wish someone would put up another reflector for the webcam... getting crap from http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 10:02 Textral> what kinda box is it, scsi? 10:02 colin_> hfx_ben: No ops around here. 10:02 niftybitch> your journal? call it whatever you want. then you have to join the communities you want to post in 10:02 mrsquishie> is there anything on the webcam right now? 10:02 hfx_ben> 3 ops here 10:02 colin_> (though we do have ops in ##interdictor) ;) 10:02 joel> hi guys 10:02 colin_> hfx_ben: None at the keyboard. 10:02 theagent> what news channel is everyone watching? 10:02 hfx_ben> #interdictor-scanner is fine 10:02 knightfoo> CNN 10:02 joel> i'm looking for pictures of the folks holed up at zip/direcnic for a story we're running today 10:02 Botunda> anyone else have their scanner stream not syncing? 10:02 @ ICMB2> Did anyone get a WIki going last night with info? 10:02 lampy> it's been working for me for about an hour but I'm in Dallas 10:02 joel> anybody seen something like that? 10:02 hfx_ben> #interdictor is a waste of electrons 10:02 joel> like even snaps from the webcams? 10:02 tolkachi> Chinooks?! 10:02 tolkachi> hahaha 10:03 tolkachi> HOLY SHIT 10:03 Textral> joel: there's a link directly from the blog 10:03 jvanpelt> i've been watching wwl 10:03 WisTodd> thx for the use of the room... cyas. 10:03 adamhill> CNN 10:03 jvanpelt> it's been a lot better than cnn or msnbc 10:03 hfx_ben> I meant #scanner, not #interdictor 10:03 Textral> Photos can be found here: http://sigmund.biz/kat/index.html Media has permission to use the photos with credit to DirectNIC.com 10:03 soundunit> CNN sucks ass 10:03 niftybitch> they are trying to steal airmen 10:03 @ SCSi> the proc load isnt a problem 10:03 knightfoo> anyone on satellited sh getting some LA stations? 10:03 joel> textral: yeah, i'm looking through those; didn't see any of the inside yet 10:03 @ SCSi> its just it cant get anymore file handles 10:03 soundunit> wwl is what i ve been keeping upwith wwl and mgno.com 10:03 jvanpelt> WWL isn't doing all the glamourization 10:03 jvanpelt> besides that i dont have to hear about mississippi as much 10:03 @ SCSi> and ive jacked up the limit to like a zillion 10:03 snarky|away> wdsu is streaming online, too. 10:04 @ SCSi> ah well 10:04 jvanpelt> yeah, wdsu is good too 10:04 snarky|away> Plus a bunch of Miss. stations. 10:04 Botunda> can someone repost the link to the scanner stream 10:04 soundunit> i think theres going to be bloodshed before this in over with 10:04 jvanpelt> ABC News Now was using the wdsu stream at night, too 10:04 Textral> joel: Unless someone captured the video feed last night, I don't think there are any 10:04 adamhill> whats wdsu's URL? 10:04 snarky|away> wdsu.com, I think. :} 10:04 Eimann> emf_: try /ignore #interdictor-scanner PARTS 10:04 @ ICMB2> Use any mirror: http://216.22.26.45:8002 | http://ods.org:8001/scan | http://tinyurl.com/dc4tx | http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner | http://www.goodphuck.com:8088/listen.pls | http://us3.comclub.org:8000/no_scanner | http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 10:04 Eimann> emf_: there not so much traffic in the channel if u ignore joins, parts, quits 10:04 errr> I use /ignore #interdictor-scanner JOINS PARTS QUITS 10:04 Boo> there already has been bloodshed soundunit - problem is, wrong people are doing the bleeding 10:05 enwilson> CBSnews.com is rolling with WWL, but it cuts out sometimes 10:05 ICMB2 changed the topic of ##interdictor to: ##interdictor - http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor | Scanner transcripts and links to streams: #interdictor-scanner | 10:05 jvanpelt> www.wwltv.com 10:05 jvanpelt> i haven't been cutting out at all 10:05 joel> okay, thanks 10:05 emf_> Eimann: thanks! 10:05 Botunda> gracias 10:05 joel> knew i should have hit prntscrn :) 10:05 skep> tv-stream links are here: http://www.wwltv.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2830 10:05 soundunit> i mean bloodshed on a bigger scale 10:05 Textral> heh, me too. Especially when Crystal was walking around :) 10:05 Eimann> errr: hm, right ;) 10:06 dre^^> SCSi: what OS? 10:06 Eimann> errr: i've added them in three steps .. ;) 10:06 Cattywampus> ICMB2: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/ 10:06 joel> oh gosh, i had forgotten about her 10:06 Boo> the folks shooting at rescue personel just need to be shot where they stand 10:06 joel> that would make this the perfect nerd story by miles :) 10:06 Yog-home> Boo: yep :| 10:06 soundunit> but the people who are creating the problems are asking for it. i mean what do they expecet. resue and onoly do so much 10:06 enwilson> I think the CBS feed cuts away when they need the satellite for the network... 10:06 Yog-home> Boo: they need some snipers around the superdome 10:06 jvanpelt> heh 10:06 soundunit> i'll go snipe 10:06 soundunit> id be happy to 10:07 Yog-home> snipers are trained to spot other shooters, etc 10:07 crschmidt> Shooting into crowds of thousands of people = not bright 10:07 Yog-home> :) 10:07 Prodigy_B> It's bad enough for the rescue squads without people shooting at them too. Really terrible. 10:07 Chimi> i'd be happy to to, but i havent shot a gun since i was 10 :( 10:07 SkilletAudio> Can someone link me to the police scanner? I cant reconnect to the one I was one 10:07 Boo> if these people have enough health and energy to have survived and loot - why aren't they helping get folks out that are trapped in attics 10:07 ICMB2 changed the topic of ##interdictor to: ##interdictor - http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor | Scanner transcripts and links to streams: #interdictor-scanner | Wiki: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/ | 10:07 @ doofew> http://ods.org:8001/scan 10:07 Yog-home> crschmidt: u see someone taking a shot at a ch47 full of evacuees, u drop him 10:07 niftybitch> it's turning into a case of each man for his own out there 10:07 @ Amish_Hooker> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5975&file=filename.pls 10:07 Mortini> mutt 10:07 Mortini> Oops. 10:07 crschmidt> Yog-home: at the cost of mass panic among thousands of people? 10:08 Prodigy_B> Boo: They're thinking of themselves. 10:08 mrsquishie> Boo: if people are trapped in attics there's enough waters that even looters probably can't get to them anyway. 10:08 Boo> they need pruned from the gene pool 10:08 Yog-home> crschmidt: depends on situation 10:08 knightfoo> if someone ie still in their attic now, they are probably dead by now :\ 10:08 crschmidt> Yog-home: I agree with you on principle that that's what should happen 10:08 Yog-home> crschmidt: i'd think the guy standing there shooting the guy would be causing a bit of panic too 10:08 niftybitch> lack of food/water + heat 10:08 jvanpelt> it's a bunch of poor ass people who live with shit. they finally have a chance to get some for themselves 10:08 niftybitch> ouch 10:08 crschmidt> but shots fired into 1500, 2000 people causes mass panic, kills 100, 200, 300 people? 10:08 soundunit> well like i said they asked for it. what do they think that poeple will help them? their shooting. theres no turning back now. if they were resuced the'd go to jail and what not. the mob thought process has gone too far for them 10:09 snarky|away> omg, on MSNBC... it just looks horrific. 10:09 crschmidt> there's a lesser of two evils here, and that's not it 10:09 mrsquishie> the main problem with the looters is the disruption of the rescue efforts, that's what I really can't understand. grabbing some shoes or food or even guns to fend for your self is one thing, shooting at helicopters and police is another. 10:09 knightfoo> soundunit: there has only been one arrest made so far in baton rouge .. the cops arent doing anything (they cant) 10:09 hfx_ben> no water => craziness 10:09 soundunit> right 10:09 snarky|away> MSNBC: No police, no authority... 10:09 Yog-home> watching Fox 10:09 Yog-home> fires 10:09 @ ICMB2> Does anyone have info on what some of the scanner things are (ie Pelican 5, etc) 10:09 Teriander> yea 10:09 mrsquishie> did anyone seen the sheperd report on fox with the guy lying dead on the side of I-10? 10:09 @ mayo> there is also one at wiki.your.org 10:09 douglas_carmich> is pink here? 10:09 douglas_carmich> is pink here? 10:09 hfx_ben> haven't seen her 10:09 mojo> It depends on what they're taking. If it's food and water, air mattresses to negotiate the water or dry clothes, socks and shoes who could blame them. I'd do that in their positon. 10:10 HP_Owner_: is now known as GhostFreeman 10:10 soundunit> well these poeple LIVE on handouts which is why they stay in the projects. now that their lifeline is gone they dont understand how to help themselves 10:10 daniel_bergamin> this channel is dead, use irc.freenode.net/#interdictor 10:10 Textral> nice. I just got in touch with a friend of mine who works for directnic... first time since he evacuated 10:10 daniel_bergamin> or so I've been told 10:10 jussiv> printscreen? on windows and some media player showing video? btw works only if hardware acceleration is disabled.. else you get a large grey area captured 10:10 soundunit> i mean theres a point 10:10 @ ICMB2> That one is out of date, mayo. Still poin ting to deadjournal 10:10 @ mayo> ICMB2: com centers, or whatever comes close to them. or people from those centers 10:10 JamesG> I can understand taking stuff to live on, but shooting at the rescuers? Hello? McFly? 10:10 @ hfx_ben2> pink did say she'd be back 10:10 mrsquishie> If things continue with no food or water I won't be suprised if people start eating each other. 10:10 @ mayo> ICMB2: yeah .. someone made that one last night 10:10 dtj> soundunit, "darwinian police action" 10:10 hfx_ben> pink did say she'd be back 10:10 @ SCSi> yeah 10:10 @ SCSi> this server is maxed 10:10 Yog-home> they're not handing this very well 10:11 jvanpelt> eating each other. 10:11 soundunit> something like that 10:11 jvanpelt> they prolly taste like shit 10:11 mojo> So you have to be careful about lumping looters and gangs/criminals. 10:11 @ SCSi> and i dont have the time/resources to pull a bunch together 10:11 ukengineer82> yea. Taking necessities...as long as you're not hoarding...is fine I think. Alot of that stuff, like food and whatnot, is going to go bad anyway 10:11 enwilson> Wasn't there a report of people shooting each other to get rescued faster? 10:11 soundunit> the national guard needs to get there 10:11 @ ICMB2> We'd be better off to pick one and use that, rather than having more contradictory sources of info...that's what the Wiki is supposed to prevent ;) 10:11 enwilson> or a rumor, rather? 10:11 ukengineer82> but these people taking jewelry? tvs? computers? 10:11 hfx_ben> so if 2 people out of .5M shoot at helicopters ... 10:11 @ doofoo> we are using: 10:11 mojo> we don 10:11 SkilletAudio> Oklahoma national guard is probably touching down as we speak 10:11 soundunit> these poeple were stealing shit 10:11 Yog-home> don't know why they couldn't get some water in there..airdrop it if needed 10:11 @ doofoo> http://www.nola-intel.org 10:11 @ doofoo> go there, then click ont he wiki 10:11 crschmidt> soundunit: the national guard is in iraq. perhaps you missed this 10:11 hfx_ben> Yog: ^5 10:11 cam[home]> any guys from directnic active in the channel right now? 10:11 soundunit> snack food fried pig rings 10:11 jvanpelt> i assumed they'd start fighting to get on busses as soon as they started talking about moving people from the superdome 10:11 knightfoo> crschmidt: more than 50% of the national guard is still at home 10:11 @ ICMB2> Yeah, I'm on there (Already made a minor update, actually) 10:11 @ mayo> it's updated now too :) 10:11 nagual678> Just read on the DU forum that the civil sheriff says prisoners have escaped from the NO jail and are armed. And nothing can be done about it because the US government has not sent support. 10:11 nagual678> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4551439 10:12 SkilletAudio> Way to be inflammatory 10:12 Herschel> i can't believe the govt position is "you shouldn't be looting even for food and water. the right way is to sit and wait for us to get it to you. zero tolerance for looters" 10:12 mojo> don't really know what's going on with respect to looting, etc. How much of it is survival and how much is criminal behavior? 10:12 @ ICMB2> Maybe the wiki.your.org should just point to the nola-intel.org site. 10:12 hfx_ben> DU rulez! 10:12 mrsquishie> maybe people can use the trash fires at the superdome to boil water 10:12 knightfoo> the military is shipping in like 5 million MREs and millions of gallons of fresh water 10:12 Eimann> emf_: u can do /set timestamp_format %H:%M:%S - for accurate timestamps 10:12 joel> jussiv: i'm on a mac, so it works 10:12 Eimann* is pimping his irssi 10:12 hfx_ben> "poor folk" in the whole area got bum deal ... no car, no cash for motel/hotel ... impossible 10:12 joel> although it's not prntscrn, granted :) 10:13 mojo> Allot of the people don't know what's coming or when. 10:13 Fwi-Song: is now known as ShamblyHermit 10:13 Boo> poor doesn't mean you have to be an animal 10:13 soundunit> i can totally understand their frustration on whats going on with them. but i think theres not enough people trying to keep peace amungst thier own to do anything 10:13 dtj> hfx_ben, for every legit person that couldn't get out, there are 10 dumbasses that wouldn't leave 10:13 jussiv> ok :) 10:13 jvanpelt> shit looks CRAZY outside the convention center 10:13 soundunit> dtj is totally right 10:13 Karnak> a lot of people didn't take evacuation seriously, but just because you are stranded doesn't mean you should loot booze and shoes and cars 10:13 knightfoo> everyone who lived through Camille figured they could handle Katrina 10:13 @ mayo> more like glob of command control shift and 4, or whatver the combo is, i always forget that one 10:14 knightfoo> Floridians are just as guilty.. 10:14 soundunit> alot of these people were too lazy to leave or didnt give a fuck.. its just how some leave 10:14 soundunit> live 10:14 dtj> everybody go look up the term "hubris" 10:14 gnat_x> i think that looting booze is ok. i mean hell its new orleans 10:14 ukengineer82> yea so many people have been through so many of these that were never as bad as they said they would be. So they figured they could ride it out 10:14 Karnak> you are a complete fool if you thought NO would get away unscathed when a majority of the city is below sea level 10:14 SkilletAudio> Just because you got screwed doenst mean looting cigarettes and booze is excusable. You looot water, clothing, and food, and use them for yourself, not barter them in the street for jeans and nikes. 10:14 jvanpelt> i dont know, man, most of us were raised waiting for the "big one" and it never came 10:14 soundunit> were not talking about the sealevel ass 10:15 mayo> never say never :) 10:15 mojo> You don't know what was in their minds. I can see that compassion isn't running very deep here. 10:15 jvanpelt> you get used to the wolf-crying 10:15 SkilletAudio> The leaders of the community stood up and said "THIS IS OUR WORST NIGHTMARE. LEAVE." What part of that spells "THis will be the same as Camilla" 10:15 soundunit> right 10:15 voodoo_in_tx> the only reason i can see for getting shoes is if you ended up fleeing without or they got ruined wading thru water - i'd want good shoes for wading through water litterred with debris 10:15 soundunit> wolf crying 10:15 ukengineer82> compassion runs out when people start shooting each other and shooting at people trying to rescue them 10:15 soundunit> like for IVan last year 10:15 joel> yeah, it's like cmd - ctrl - shift - 3 (or 4) 10:15 Kheirag> Well after 5 days without a shower or running water, I think I'd take some clothes too. 10:15 soundunit> right 10:15 dtj> based on crime stats, i would guess that the number of dead bodies laying around has risen only modestly 10:15 voodoo_in_tx> and the people who are left? most of them didn't have cars, etc. 10:15 Cattywampus> ICMB, yeah. The more the current news can be centralized, the better. 10:15 mojo> The shooting story is being over blown. 10:15 Yog-home> well... NO govt is pretty notoriously corrupt...i guess they're incompetant too.. or maybe it's just the redneck factor.. don't see why they can't get water/food to the ppl in the shelters 10:15 joel> while making on o face, of course 10:15 Guy-Smiley> Hello everyone, i'm thinking of you up here in Columbus, Ohio 10:16 ravuya> NOLA government is unbelievably incompetent 10:16 Karnak> there has been a lot of violence. not just the one shooting 10:16 knightfoo> is I-10 still wiped out? 10:16 ukengineer82> mojo people are shooting at cops 10:16 ukengineer82> firemen 10:16 Eimann> need to fetch something to eat 10:16 Beave> question, are the scanner sites also recording (or is anyone)? T'would be a good idea. 10:16 ravuya> most of I-10 is swamped still from what I've heard. 10:16 douglas_carmich> I am...as best I can. 10:16 ukengineer82> and at each other 10:16 trizzo> anyone have details on the fuel delivery for directnic? 10:16 knightfoo> i heard it was actually washed out in parts of Alabama 10:16 adamhill> knightfoo: after Kenner I-10W is OK 10:16 mojo> There are people not involved in criminal behavior that are dying on the side of the road, in their homes, this story is about much more than a few with criminal intent. 10:16 Beave> very good. Off the streamed sites? 10:16 jussiv> i've been ripping the stream for about 8 hours 10:16 Kheirag> knightfoo: Looks like I-10's exits are still mostly boatramps within the city. 10:16 SkilletAudio> Yeah, what part of "Desperate for rescue" spells "Shoot the rescue helicopters"? 10:16 voodoo_in_tx> there's always criminal elements, but the elderly and children? 10:16 @ ICMB2> I'll see if I can do that when I get out of this meeting i'm in. 10:17 knightfoo> SkilletAudio: maybe they ran out of flares to get their attention? :) 10:17 soundunit> mojo is right 10:17 adamhill> we drove out of Kenner yesterday on I-10W 10:17 mojo> That report of shooting the helicopter was denied by the Nat'l Guard. 10:17 Karnak> those with criminal intent are hindering the efforts of the rescuers 10:17 ukengineer82> this isn't just one isolated story of some idiot that shot at a helicopter that's being overblown. Read interdictor's blog...this is chaos 10:17 knightfoo> adamhill: how bad is the Kenner area? 10:17 yaffo> really moving? 10:17 voodoo_in_tx> adam, westbank area bad? 10:17 soundunit> but thats the sad part cause those poeple are hurting becuase of the bad seeds 10:17 @ mayo> moved already 10:17 ukengineer82> FEMA has stopped all their boat rescue operations today...because of the chaos 10:17 knightfoo> dont hear anything on the news unless its New Orleans 10:17 (Users #interdictor) 10:17 Irssi: #interdictor: Total of 132 nicks [14 ops, 3 halfops, 0 voices, 115 normal] 10:17 SkilletAudio> But you cant run in against a stream of bullets. THe criminals are ostensibly holding the weak and infirmed hostage by making it necessary for the rescue operation to h alt. 10:17 voodoo_in_tx> it hasn't had much coverage and that's where my friends house is 10:18 SCSi changed the topic of #interdictor to: We're trying to find a new home on a larger network (this server is swamped), please standby 10:18 adamhill> not, flooding about waist deep for 2 days between Airport and the other side of I-10 10:18 @ SCSi> shit 10:18 @ SCSi> this is chaos 10:18 @ doofew> yeah.. those people on freenode are lost in space 10:18 mojo> And there are fires randomly breaking out, reporters are leaving because of health risks from the toxins in the water. The shooting stuff is over blown. 10:18 adamhill> i was at the Radisson at Veterans and Williams 10:18 dtj> it makes the same sense as the insurgent activity in iraq. if they really wanted the US to leave, they would sit down, shut up, and wait for us to leave 10:18 @ hellion0> hm... 10:18 @ hellion0> like i said, got space on my network. 10:19 knightfoo> adamhill: cool, had some friends in that area 10:19 @ doofew> what network would that be? msg me. 10:19 voodoo_in_tx> adam, thanks 10:19 mark`> Wow 10:19 ravuya> I'm worried about the disease that is inevitably going to set in here 10:19 mark`> have you guys heard of prisoners escaping then raping nurses 10:19 adamhill> LaBelles Catering was destroyed 10:19 knightfoo> i think there were reports of cholera already 10:19 ravuya> If they can't even get a doctor for a pregnant lady how are they going to fix this? 10:19 mojo> No mark 10:19 knightfoo> mark`: probably a rumor,they said the same thing about the superdome 10:19 jvanpelt> it's strange how "doomsday" the national coverage is compared to the local coverage 10:19 Topic for #interdictor: We're trying to find a new home on a larger network (this server is swamped), please standby 10:19 Topic set by SCSi ~corvus@127.45.201.23 [Thu Sep 1 10:18:01 2005] 10:20 nagual678> we're moving again ? 10:20 mojo> cholera already? I doubt that. 10:20 ravuya> I also doubt that 10:20 @ doofew> nagual678 - we are trying to deal with some issues 10:20 knightfoo> or at least fears of cholera :) 10:20 @ doofew> freenode we are not opd 10:20 ravuya> Local infections, sure, toxic exposure, yeah 10:20 John_K> TBH in nola right now child birth is probably one of the lowest priorities 10:20 @ doofew> and can not keep the topics and channel in moderation, or under any control 10:20 ravuya> Cholera, not for awhile 10:20 voodoo_in_tx> cholera, probalby not yet - takes more timre 10:20 voodoo_in_tx> dysentary i'd believe 10:20 adamhill> yeah, I was traveling with a local and she kept getting upset that the news was not reporting that *most* people got out 10:20 nagual678> oh ok 10:20 nagual678> thanks for telling me 10:20 hfx_ben> can't be already 10:20 ukengineer82> because doomsday sells jvanpelt 10:20 voodoo_in_tx> and we might just see an epidemic of west nile in a few weeks, after incubation 10:20 phoo> george bush said he had asked his father to help with fundraising, and yet... i heard he said no to canadian aid. If we don't have the troops to send to NO, then send the canadians down there. Whatever it takes to get them help and prevent more deaths. 10:20 hfx_ben> wounds in flood water ... yikes 10:21 SkilletAudio> Dysentery will be a big problem, and not too far from now. Especially if people are wading in water with dead things then cramming into rescue centers. 10:21 knightfoo> yeah, they should be worried about mosquitos 10:21 John_K> nothing really you can do about the mosquitos though 10:21 hfx_ben> WNile virus ... 1 good month of mosquito weather. 10:21 voodoo_in_tx> yeah, there's gonna be enough general infection and gangrene and stuff from just untended little wounds, without even thinking about cholera 10:21 Knobee> I think the canadians would cram up --- heat, you know. 8-) 10:21 Knobee> s/cram/cramp 10:21 John_K> heh, you don't know the humidity we live with up here 10:22 jvanpelt> where are you, John K 10:22 Karnak> uh. you don't know about humidity until you live near the gulf coast XD 10:22 Cattywampus> I'm carefully updating the other wiki now. 10:22 NfNitLoop> Um, I think New Orleans wins the humidity. River delta + Gulf coast. 10:22 mojo> Not yet for the mosquito problem. They like stagnant water and the water in NO hasn't been very stagnant and certainly not long enough for mosquitos to start breeding. 10:22 John_K> Halifax, Nova Scotia 10:22 @ ICMB2> Ok. 10:22 dtj> "you need rescuing, eh?" 10:22 jvanpelt> i'm in milwaukee now and people complain about the humidity 10:22 tara_> I just can't believe that in the USA there are people stranded in the thousands without law and order and without any food, water, sewers... 10:22 knightfoo> Florida is pretty humid. the mosquito larvae can almost swim in the air :) 10:22 voodoo_in_tx> i love nola's humidity. *sigh* 10:22 tara_> it's astounding 10:22 voodoo_in_tx> i'm weird 10:22 jvanpelt> but it's NOTHING comparitively 10:22 hfx_ben> mojo: yes ... one upside to high water in NOLA 10:22 voodoo_in_tx> but i hate living in dry climates 10:22 jvanpelt> yeah, i miss it 10:22 @ ICMB> What channels are you talking about nagual? 10:22 tolkachi> Log of #scanner [http://nola.heavycomputing.ca/nola-scanner.log] has not adapted to new irc 10:23 tolkachi> **please take note 10:23 tara_> it gets pretty humid up here in the summer 10:23 voodoo_in_tx> i'm in dallas now and my nose freakin bleeds. i'm not made for dry weather 10:23 knightfoo> tara_: there are thousands of homeless every day, just no in such high concentrations 10:23 @ ICMB> Oh, is everyone in #interdictor and not ##interdictor? 10:23 tara_> I know 10:23 tara_> you know what I meant 10:23 tara_> not like this 10:23 adamhill> voodoo: i am in Plano 10:23 Eimann> doofew: which channel? 10:23 Tetraboy> I'm in GA, we have pretty decent humidity. 10:23 Eimann> #interdictor? ask lilo 10:23 jvanpelt> i have family in Plano 10:23 dtj> i was on plano a month ago 10:23 Chimi> <3 the weather here in the northwest. 10:23 voodoo_in_tx> hey adam, in coppell here 10:23 @ ICMB> There's 130 some people in #interdictor but only 35 in ##interdictor 10:24 jvanpelt> they're trying to get my grandparents out of East Jeff. and moved out to Plano 10:24 Yog-home* no Northern CA ... Weather pwns all here :) 10:24 @ mayo> i think colin was pushing for ##inter cause we have ops t here 10:24 Tetraboy[Away]> noone wants to swap. 10:24 dtj> my dad moved out of plano to near little elm 10:24 @ hellion0> running off to smoke. 10:24 knightfoo> why do they keep complaining about cell phones not working.. 10:24 voodoo_in_tx> lol lived in No. Cali....it's very nice up there 10:24 voodoo_in_tx> but i need my heat and humidity 10:24 voodoo_in_tx> despite this, i'd still move back to florida in a heartbeat. 10:24 jvanpelt> because, knightfoo, if cell phones worked i could find my mom 10:24 voodoo_in_tx> lived there before, would do it again 10:24 lilo* looks in 10:24 nagual678> well we have already moved on freenode to #interdictor, #scanner, ##interdictor, ##interdictor-scanner (last two are because OPing wasn't properly done) 10:25 mojo> Because the first responders have been relying upon them over more expensive radio systems. 10:25 knightfoo> well, its expected they wont work..even if the towers were operating, they would be slammed 10:25 nagual678> right now it's a pretty mess 10:25 knightfoo> you couldnt get a call through 10:25 jvanpelt> i'm sure, but it's still sucks 10:25 voodoo_in_tx> yeah 10:25 @ mayo> #scanner actually belonged to somebody else, afaik 10:25 @ ICMB> HAving ops is very important, when trying to manage information. 10:25 crschmidt> knightfoo: not particularly: since no one has had power for days, not al ot of phones would be using them. 10:25 voodoo_in_tx> they can call out tho sometimes, and they can text 10:25 Herschel> i don't think they'd be slammed now... most of the city's gone 10:25 Herschel> should be less load than usual 10:25 nagual678> yeah i guess soo 10:25 voodoo_in_tx> but the area code itself is slammed 10:25 nagual678> so* 10:25 Eimann> u tried to ask lilo for op on #interdictor? 10:25 @ ICMB2> brb 10:25 jvanpelt> i cant even call to Pensacola 10:25 Herschel> ah 10:25 voodoo_in_tx> yeah but people keep calling there, tying up the 504 area code circuits 10:26 knightfoo> anyone have bag radios? heh 10:26 Eimann> he's netop 10:26 @ mayo> looks like he's looking into it 10:26 Eimann> ok 10:26 gnat_x> text would be the way to go here. 10:26 mojo> traffic isn't the problem for cell phones, it's downed towers and lack of power. 10:26 @ mayo> he runs the network, heh 10:26 voodoo_in_tx> dude, i can't believe the nopd didn't have more radios tucked away 10:26 ukengineer82> yup 10:26 Eimann> as i said ;) 10:26 ukengineer82> and they won't have power for a LOOONG time 10:26 foobar> unable to reach www.directnic.com from here, did they break down? 10:26 voodoo_in_tx> hell, this is gonna create a resurrection in ham radios 10:26 Guy-Smiley> 2 or 3 months? 10:26 enwilson> They probably did, and they're underwater... 10:26 joel> i just hit it 10:26 knightfoo> voodoo_in_tx: yeah, i was confused as to why the police were complaining about communication problems. they *should* all have radios with 5-12 mile range 10:26 @ hfx_ben2> eiman: someone is logging? are logs going to http://nola.heavycomputing.ca/nola-scanner.log? 10:26 douglas_carmich> IMPORTANT info for mothers: http://www.livejournal.com/users/dcarmich_nola/ 10:27 douglas_carmich> Can someone put this in as a topic? 10:27 Yog-home* notes how much more organized the people running the Astrodome are than the people running the Superdome 10:27 @ mayo> works just fine 10:27 tolkachi> power is down because the nuclear center was taken offline 10:27 douglas_carmich> Important info for mothers: 10:27 douglas_carmich> http://www.livejournal.com/users/dcarmich_nola/ 10:27 douglas_carmich> Can someone put this in as a topic? 10:27 Eimann> hfx_ben2: don't think so 10:27 j33n33u5> maybe bc its not flooded in houston? 10:27 voodoo_in_tx> doug - that's only partly true 10:27 douglas_carmich> About getting food to their babies.. 10:27 voodoo_in_tx> it takes longer than that for the prolactin hormone to secrete 10:27 knightfoo> Yog-home: theyve had a little more time to prepare 10:27 @ mayo> i'm logging, don't have 'em public though 10:27 @ mayo> a sec 10:27 ukengineer82> that an entergy has lost a good majority of their HV lines in southern lousiana 10:27 foobar> well, i can't reach www.directnic, going dead after telcove.net/24.56.107.230 10:27 gnat_x> the issue is that most of the radios were probably using repeater systems, and not point to point. so when the precints get flooded or lose power a repeater goes down 10:27 voodoo_in_tx> la leche is very optomistic 10:27 ICMB: is now known as ICMB|home 10:27 douglas_carmich> voodoo_in_tx>just reporting as I hear.. 10:27 % lil_wayne> oops 10:27 foobar> (from austria via sprint and at&t) 10:27 voodoo_in_tx> *nod* i understand 10:27 % lil_wayne> so much for their "DR" plan 10:28 gnat_x> repeater systems is what most ems uses 10:28 dre^^> I can load the page 10:28 voodoo_in_tx> that data is under the most optimistic circumstances, presumes enough hydration and nutrition as well 10:28 Mode: ##interdictor[+o ICMB] by ICMB|home 10:28 dre^^> though it's slower than it was last night 10:28 jussiv> internic works from oulu.fi 10:28 joel> yeah, sounds like a routing issue to me 10:28 @ hfx_ben2> *AFK ... nicotine* 10:28 joel> (not one at directnic) 10:28 tara_> can't get to the red cross web site 10:28 knightfoo> maybe they should go loot the walkie talkies from bestbuy :P 10:28 @ ICMB> Ok, back in the office and off that pesky wireless. 10:28 Padathir> works for me 10:28 hfx_ben> *AFK ... nicotine* 10:28 Eimann> 12 24.56.107.230 (24.56.107.230) [AS19343/AS19548/AS19094] 125.499 ms 125.240 ms 125.664 ms 10:28 yaffo> what's the audio feed url now? 10:28 Eimann> 13 64.66.100.150 (64.66.100.150) [AS7843/AS19548/AS19094] 949.366 ms 932.489 ms 909.823 ms 10:28 Eimann> 14 ndcr3-ndcr6.datasync.net (209.205.128.137) [AS4314] 906.676 ms 905.277 ms 910.902 ms 10:28 jussiv> argh directnic not internic 10:28 gnat_x> they should. though the range sucks 10:28 Eimann> seems to be a DoS attack or some technical problems 10:28 dre^^> holy crap, look at that latency 10:29 Eimann> i can reach them 10:29 dre^^> I'm seeing the same results from here 10:29 knightfoo> 2-5 miles, would be good locally, and you could even setup manual relay stations 10:29 ICMB> URLs should be available here: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 10:29 knightfoo> distributed radio net 10:29 dre^^> last three hops are saturated 10:29 foobar> 21 24.56.107.230 (24.56.107.230) 137.914 ms 137.900 ms 137.626 ms 10:29 foobar> 22 64.66.100.150 (64.66.100.150) 997.718 ms 959.945 ms 982.244 ms 10:29 foobar> 23 ndcr3-ndcr6.datasync.net (209.205.128.137) 969.528 ms 938.406 ms 974.042 ms 10:29 yaffo> icmb: thanks 10:29 foobar> and from my home line 10:29 @ SCSi> woah 10:29 foobar> 22 24.56.107.230 368.262 ms 313.073 ms 315.944 ms 10:29 foobar> 23 * * * 10:29 foobar> 24 * * * 10:29 mh7519> thanks ICMB 10:29 dre^^> maybe they got slashdotted... 10:29 foobar> so, something's broken around ;) 10:29 @ SCSi> some network congestions 10:29 voodoo_in_tx> dang, #interdictor was busy after i went to sleep! 10:29 voodoo_in_tx> thanks icmb 10:29 douglas_carmich> ICMB>can you put my info there? 10:30 gnat_x> the failsafe that lots of ems uses for their repeater systems is nextels, also not an option here. 10:30 douglas_carmich> ICMB>http://www.livejournal.com/users/dcarmich_nola/ 10:30 joel> we're about to run our story 10:30 j33n33u5> what is the channel for the scanner? 10:30 joel> that's going to put some load on, too :/ 10:30 Eimann> yep, seems so. 10:30 lilo> hi all.... welcome to freenode, and obviously I wish you didn't have to be here, happy as we are to be available 10:30 @ doofew> what story? 10:30 Yog-home> ICMB: u work for sun ? 10:30 nagual678> lilo is there 10:30 voodoo_in_tx> lilo, thanks 10:30 knightfoo> where is grub? ;) 10:30 adamhill> thanks lilo 10:30 Yog-home> hehe 10:30 snarky|away> lilo: already a customer, but thanks. ;) 10:30 ICMB> I do, but don't tell my boss I'm helping out here instead of working. 10:30 Yog-home> grub > lilo 10:30 lilo> knightfoo: I'll save space by not pasting my faq 8) 10:30 phoo> j33n33u5, #interdictor-scanner 10:30 knightfoo> hehe 10:31 Chimi> lilo > * 10:31 joel> doofew: the one we're running ;o 10:31 @ Teriander> its getting bad here in Baton Rouge 10:31 @ Teriander> Riotting in Baton Rouge 10:31 @ doofew> who is "we" :) 10:31 Yog-home> ICMB: which office u @ ? 10:31 Textral> joel: What agency do you work for? 10:31 Karnak> the interdictor guys need ops XD 10:31 joel> the cia! 10:31 @ doofew> lol 10:31 nagual678> teriander : source ? 10:31 joel> i mean, wired news 10:31 slounsbu> where teh warez @ yall? 10:31 knightfoo> slounsbu: i have some zero day pillows to donate 10:31 Textral> just as bad. :P 10:31 Eimann> We've around 1.65 GBit/sec avaible in Frankfurt/Main Germany, but how to get the traffic there? ;)) 10:31 @ doofew> been following our scanner feeds? 10:31 @ Teriander> Source??? My own eyes. Im in Baton Rouge right now 10:31 Yog-home> ICMB: I live right next to the Agnews office :) 10:31 Chimi> crap. wtf. lag spikes. 10:31 brocktice> rioting in br? 10:31 knightfoo> l33t 10:32 ICMB> I'm in the SF bay area. 10:32 @ Teriander> yes, carjackings at gaspumps 10:32 Yog-home> ICMB: yeh.. figured as much :) 10:32 brocktice> who, refugees? 10:32 knightfoo> what % of NO is under water now? 10:32 @ Teriander> my friend is working downtown, they're being told to stay inside... 10:32 Guy-Smiley> I've still heard 80% 10:32 jvanpelt> most of Orleans still, i think 10:32 Yog-home> ICMB: looks like u in santa clara.. there's where I am too 10:32 mojo> yeah the area hasn't changed just the depth. 10:32 slounsbu> I just got confused when I came on here and people were talking about grub and lilo 10:32 knightfoo> yeah, i heard 80% since yesterday 10:33 @ hellion0> shit! i was going to head out that way later tonight! 10:33 voodoo_in_tx> looks like a lot of CBD and GD escaped flooding 10:33 @ doofew> lilo is joining 10:33 ICMB> No one has given any new numbers after the Mayor's 80% from Monday night. 10:33 ICMB> Everyone just quotes that. 10:33 @ hellion0> thanks for the headsup. 10:33 @ doofew> he's going to help us out on the other irc server. 10:33 ICMB> I'm in MPK, Yog. 10:33 knightfoo> i think 80% is enough 10:33 knightfoo> heh 10:33 null_exe|sleepi: is now known as null_exe 10:33 jvanpelt> they haven't shown many aerial shots of the Gentilly area 10:33 @ doofoo> dr 10:33 null_exe> hey all I'm awake again 10:33 mrsquishie> Teriander you can see rioting from where you are? 10:33 snarky|away> They haven't fixed the levees yet, water's going to be up until they do. 10:33 Yog-home> ICMB: mpk ... moorepark ? 10:33 dre^^> directnic have any public traffic graphs? :) 10:33 Yog-home* doesn't know where all the sun offices are anymore 10:33 knightfoo> snarky|away: i think the water level has equalized, so it wont rise anymore 10:33 Eimann> dre^^: don't think so ;) 10:33 dre^^> I like to look at flat green lines 10:34 snarky|away> knightfoo: Yeah. *sigh* 10:34 Eimann> hehe ;) 10:34 ICMB> Let's take it to PM, Yog. I doubt most of the 100 people care ;) 10:34 j33n33u5> updated livejournal 10:34 knightfoo> someone needs to park a satellite over NO with 1m resolution and setup a live feed 10:34 jvanpelt> no shit 10:35 niftybitch> http://www.wwltv.com 10:35 Knobee> hershey radio? 10:35 Yog-home> ICMB: nah.not important.. i've been a Sun sys admin sicne about 1988 though :) 10:35 ICMB> "All of our providers are dropping. We're down to one. We have enough fuel to keep us powered for a long time, but we could lose internet access soon if our last provider drops." 10:35 jvanpelt> http://www.digitalglobe.com/katrina_info.html 10:35 ICMB> Eep. 10:35 Yog-home> yipes 10:35 Eimann> i'll put it in my smokeping ;) 10:35 Eimann> i'll put it in my smokeping ;) 10:35 Eimann> arghs 10:35 Yog-home> wonder why their peers are dropping now 10:35 @ SCSi> he's joining here? 10:35 null_exe> whos transcribing in #scanner? 10:35 Knobee> their generators are dying. 10:35 ICMB> Yeah. 10:35 JamesG> Probably due to excessive traffic 10:35 knightfoo> or they didnt schedule fuel shipments 10:36 edible> doesn't look like anyone is 10:36 @ Teriander> Mrsquishie, went near midcity. saw fights, got text messages from friend who is in midcity and confirmed... I dont know if its under control yet, i'll let you know 10:36 nagual678> http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ < updated, bad news 10:36 knightfoo> oof, last thing they need is rain 10:36 null_exe> well i gathered...who SHOULD be? 10:36 mrsquishie> damn. That's insane man. Stay safe. 10:36 @ ICMB> Doesn't look too promising for ongoing communication. 10:37 null_exe> teri: get your friend outta there and both of you get on lockdown or something. riots have the tendency to flare out unexpectedly across cities 10:37 Yog-home> kinda odd that their peer connections are dropping now instead of when the hurricane was hitting 10:37 Guy-Smiley> crap 10:37 Yog-home> maybe water is getting into conduits or something 10:37 Yog-home* wonders what kind of connectivity they have 10:37 foobar> "All of our providers are dropping. We're down to one. We have enough fuel to keep us powered for a long time, but we could lose internet access soon if our last provider drops." 10:37 foobar> damn. 10:37 @ hellion0> still, i'm not heading that way now. 10:37 knightfoo> any telco hotels get wiped out? 10:37 Burke> what's the readio feed now? 10:38 @ hellion0> that was going to be my fuel stop. 10:38 @ SCSi> damn 10:38 @ SCSi> the telcos are slowly dropping 10:38 @ SCSi> lame 10:38 dre^^> foobar: who said that? scanner? 10:38 knightfoo> anyone for martial law? 10:38 Burke> thgere we go 10:38 foobar> on that blog. 10:38 dre^^> ah 10:38 crschmidt> knightfoo: thought it alreayd was? 10:38 knightfoo> i dont see any military in there .. 10:38 @ hellion0> going afk 10:38 snarky|away> Housing project on fire: Fox News. 10:38 hellion0: is now known as H-0|afk 10:38 dre^^> I'd hope that there's enough people watching these guys that they can get the fuel they need... 10:39 @ hellion0> going afk 10:39 mojo> http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/08/update-louisiana-martial-law.php 10:39 tolkachi> sounds like something is going down now 10:39 tolkachi> calls for defender elements is not good 10:39 lilo> oh 10:39 Guy-Smiley> what does that mean? 10:40 Eimann> fibercuts? to the directnic dc? 10:40 WisTodd> I was just going to ask the same thing, LOL 10:40 edible> what's defender/bulldog? 10:40 knightfoo> ok, state of emergency = martial law 10:40 mojo> um no it doesn't foo 10:40 Guy-Smiley> mo, I mean defender elements 10:40 Mode: #interdictor[+o doofoo] by lilo 10:40 Guy-Smiley> no, not mo 10:40 Guy-Smiley> :p 10:40 douglas_carmich> eimann>is it in the provider end or telco end? 10:40 tolkachi> calls for defenders are usually the armed ones 10:40 Padathir> any defender element = ANYONE with the defender call sign 10:40 Padathir> IE HELP 10:40 Guy-Smiley> jeez 10:40 tolkachi> the elements are individuals 10:41 Neit> "defender" like a national guard member? 10:41 foobar> i only see directnic via AS19094 10:41 tolkachi> not sure 10:41 foobar> thats telcove inc 10:41 Guy-Smiley> i'm watching WWL online right now 10:41 ukengineer82> mojo essentially in louisiana State of Emergency does = marshal law. they have no Marshal Law declaration available to them 10:41 foobar> so they are really down to 1 it seems 10:41 @ doofew> okay guys 10:41 ICMB> Martial law. 10:41 knightfoo> people are being transplanted as far as San Antonio 10:41 @ doofew> get on over to freenode 10:41 ukengineer82> yea 10:41 ukengineer82> martial 10:41 ukengineer82> not marshal 10:41 ukengineer82> god it's been a long day 10:41 foobar---> i only see directnic via AS19094 10:41 foobar---> thats telcove inc 10:41 foobar---> so they are really down to 1 it seems 10:42 knightfoo> ow 10:42 @ SCSi> freenode is secured? 10:42 tolkachi> nat'l doesn't have much of a presence yet, so i would assume anyone with the proper credintials has the defender callsign 10:42 dre^^> you doing a BGP regex foobar? 10:42 Eimann> douglas_carmich: don'T know which end, i don't think it's at directnic location 10:42 ravuya> yeah, he just made a post on his LJ 10:42 ravuya> that he was down to one 10:42 jvanpelt> on WWL last night they did say that Nagin declared martial law 10:42 foobar---> dre, yea 10:42 edible> same channels over there doofew? 10:42 dre^^> how many providers do they normally have? 10:42 mojo> Martial Law requires the suspension of habeas corpus 10:43 foobar---> dre, good question 10:43 @ doofew> yes 10:43 mojo> LA can't do that. 10:43 Tetraboy> What provider's do they have.. 10:43 Botunda> Director of Homeland security on TV now 10:43 @ doofew> freenode is secure 10:43 tolkachi: is now known as tolkachi_afk 10:43 Eimann> #interdictor and #interdictor-scanner 10:43 @ doofew> i just got off the phone with lilo 10:43 Yog-home> foobar---: what AS is it going through ? 10:43 Guy-Smiley> and miranda rights 10:43 ravuya> Botunda, it's a little late for that. Where the hell is the military? 10:43 knightfoo> "give officials power to suspend civil liberties in the process of restoring order" 10:43 Mode: #interdictor[+o Teriander] by doofoo 10:43 foobar---> yog-home, 19094 is the only one right now 10:43 Yog-home> foobar---: oh.. NM.. telecove 10:43 Joe_Powerbook> they need to enact martial law 10:43 ravuya> they did 10:43 foobar---> yog-home, they are 4314 themselves 10:43 ICMB> Can someone give me the current WWL TV link so I can add it to the wiki 10:43 snarky|away> "We understand what it's like to be sitting on top of a roof." No you don't. Geez. 10:43 Botunda> hasn't said et 10:44 Botunda> yet 10:44 jvanpelt> that's what i heard, that civil/miranda rights were suspended 10:44 Mode: #interdictor[+o Pavix] by doofoo 10:44 knightfoo> why the hell does telcove sound familiar 10:44 Eimann> dre^^: i think they've three upstreams 10:44 dre^^> *nod* 10:44 @ doofew> we can switch the channel back and forward people there 10:44 jvanpelt> ICMB: www.wwltv.com 10:44 Botunda> talking head on CNN just said that htere are troops on the way 10:44 @ doofew> and get th eblog updated asap 10:44 Tetraboy> Telcove, Broadwing atleast. 10:44 ICMB> jvanpelt: thanks 10:44 Botunda> may get there by tinight 10:44 Yog-home> foobar---: hrm.. that's listed as I-55 Internet Services 10:44 dre^^> this would be a great time for some renegade long-haul wireless from teh rooftop 10:44 knightfoo> where are those guys from the WiFi Shootout when you need them? :) 10:44 Eimann> dre^^: hehe, ack ;) 10:44 BoogedyBo> http://www.wwltv.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2830 --> links to different live feeds 10:45 mojo> Who would get in that toxic water to deploy wireless?! 10:45 @ SCSi> okay 10:45 @ SCSi> lemme change the topic 10:45 @ SCSi> tell lilo thanks 10:45 foobar---> yog, OrgName: TelCove, Inc. 10:45 @ doofew> already did.. many a times 10:45 dre^^> mojo: if they can get a bigass fuel truck in there, they can get some antennas in there 10:45 @ doofew> scsi join up over there 10:45 knightfoo> the air isnt quite as toxic as the water 10:45 SCSi changed the topic of #interdictor to: We're moving to irc.freenode.net to #interdictor (this server is overloaded) 10:45 Tetraboy[Away]> Some of the telco's may not have gensets, just DC batteries, or limited gensets. 10:45 @ H-0|afk> so #interdictor now, with just the one # for channel prefix? 10:45 @ doofew> yup 10:45 @ doofew> ;) 10:45 @ H-0|afk> noted. 10:45 @ doofew> sorry for the confusion 10:46 @ hfx_ben2> geez LJ Interdictor sounds dire. 10:46 Yog-home> foobar---: hrm.. directnic's IP space for their web server is a /21 block registered to Zipa, LLC 10:46 Eimann> dre^^: http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS4314 10:46 jvanpelt> i bet nola smells horrible right now 10:46 mojo> I think people needs basics. They don't give a shit about technology or the net. They need medical help, food and water. 10:46 adamhill> it was odd, I had internet service at the Radisson about 40 minutes after we lost power 10:46 knightfoo> jvanpelt: it didnt exactly smell like roses in the first place :P 10:46 theagent> better yet... float a wifi enabled blimp over the area 10:46 adamhill> and cell phone service for a few days 10:46 jvanpelt> exactly 10:46 Knobee> I've just setup a peercast server of the scanner audio. 10:46 knightfoo> theagent: stratellite 10:46 Knobee> if anyone cares 10:46 adamhill> url? 10:46 ICMB> link, Knobee? 10:46 Yog-home> yeh..traceroutes show that it's going through telecove :) 10:46 Tetraboy[Away]> IT must feel so helpless to have your datacenter up and running, but net connections dropped. 10:46 foobar---> Yog-home: strange.. 10:46 hfx_ben> Knobee: numbers? 10:46 foobar---> Yog-home: yeah ;) 10:47 theagent> you can hit a blimp with a pringles can... not a satelite 10:47 Yog-home> foobar---: probably have 5 different names 10:47 Knobee> http://yp.peercast.org/?find=Orleans&Submit=Search 10:47 SCSi^> ugh 10:47 SCSi^> okay 10:47 SCSi^> here 10:47 Yog-home> like a lot of businesses 10:47 @ doofoo> lol 10:47 bipto> thanks Knobee 10:47 knightfoo> http://www.stratellite.net/ .. too bad they arent in full deployment yet 10:47 @ SCSi> yeah 10:47 Knobee> np. should help with bandwidth. 10:47 @ SCSi> he sounds in bad shape 10:47 WisTodd> jvanpelt, I've been to NOLA, it didn't smell that great in good times. ;) 10:47 dre^^> telcove is the only 'upstream adjacent', so... wouldn't that be where the bulk of the normal internet traffic comes from? 10:47 Mode: #interdictor[+o SCSi^] by doofoo 10:47 edible> are there any online feeds from la tv stations? 10:47 @ SCSi^> blah 10:47 @ SCSi^> thanks 10:47 @ SCSi^> :) 10:47 theagent> your peercast stream is bad 10:47 Beave> Understandable. 10:47 Beave> yesh. 10:47 theagent> reporting 192 address 10:47 Knobee> what did fark say... 80% underwater, 20% still under urine? 10:48 snarky|away> edible: wdsu.com, wwltv.com 10:48 Padathir> http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_wfaa&props=livenoad 10:48 Knobee> yes, it's a 192 address... 192.153 8-) 10:48 @ SCSi^> doofoo. do as much as i can while im at work 10:48 theagent> peercast://pls/007D48952E4E7D0992252C52EAE7C1CF?tip=192.153.154.157:7144 10:48 @ SCSi^> :) 10:48 SCSi^ changed the topic of #interdictor to: Welcome to the new home of #interdictor 10:48 @ SCSi> yeah 10:48 knightfoo> SCSi^: isnt that kind of redundant? 10:48 @ Teriander> BLOG UPDATED*** 10:48 @ SCSi> he's stronger than most people 10:48 @ SCSi^> yeah 10:48 @ SCSi^> sorta 10:48 @ SCSi^> :) 10:48 @ doofoo> :) 10:48 @ Teriander> * BLOG UPDATED**** 10:49 SCSi^: is now known as SCSi 10:49 SCSi: is now known as SCSi^ 10:49 hfx_ben> mention #interdictor-scanner 10:49 edible> thanks 10:49 ICMB> I'm going to paste this periodically unless people complain, since there's no ops here. 10:49 ICMB> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 10:49 doofoo changed the topic of #interdictor to: Welcome to our new home | http://ods.org:8001/scan , http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner 10:49 JamesG> ICMB: There are ops here. 10:49 ICMB> Spoke too soon, I guess. 10:50 hfx_ben> why not mention #interdictor-scanner ? 10:50 ICMB> (I thought they were all inactive) 10:50 doofoo changed the topic of #interdictor to: Welcome to our new home | http://www.nola-intel.org | http://ods.org:8001/scan , http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner 10:50 hfx_ben> *arrrrrrg* #interdictor-scanner 10:50 douglas_carmich> does anyone have any satellite assets? 10:50 Chimi> i think hfx_ben is gonna explode 10:50 Yog-home> *> 12.123.1.236 0 7018 19094 4314 i 10:51 dtj> floating a blimp is probably not a good idea where people are shooting at helicopters 10:51 knightfoo> i think this secretary of homeland security is going to choke at the podium 10:51 foobar---> directnic was mainly seen via AS6395 before 10:51 Chimi> dtj: thats what i was thinking. 10:51 @ SCSi^> woot 10:51 douglas_carmich> does anyone have any satellite assets? 10:51 knightfoo> run an isp over a sat-phone! 10:51 theagent> but the blimp could also give visual information via side panels 10:51 SCSi^: is now known as SCSi|Work 10:51 douglas_carmich> I mean to get voice and basic data in and out. 10:51 JamesG> Why yes, I have a Satellite in my back pocket! 10:51 @ SCSi|Work> im at work, so i'll be half-here 10:51 douglas_carmich> I mean up/downlink terminal.. 10:51 theagent> people are complaining about the lack of info 10:51 knightfoo> callin the goodyear blimp.. 10:51 solcita|zzz: is now known as solcita 10:52 dtj> "look, its the good year blimp.... bam bam bam" 10:52 Mode: #interdictor[+m] by doofew 10:52 knightfoo> nah, just scroll "dont shoot" on the side 10:52 knightfoo> .. 10:52 @ doofew> move on over to freenode #interdictor 10:52 @ SCSi|Work> or a target 10:52 @ SCSi|Work> :) 10:53 jvanpelt> someone would steal the blimp 10:53 @ hfx_ben2> and get them to mention #interdictor-scanner 10:53 dtj> thats probably why the target corporation doesn't have one 10:53 Chimi> meh, put some snipers in the blimp. 10:53 Yog-home> foobar---: yeh.. looks like 4314 is the only link right now 10:53 Padathir> hahahaha dtj 10:53 Boo> that's presuming those idiots can ummm, actually READ Knightfoo 10:53 macjunkie> hehe 10:53 Yog-home> foobar---: u a network engineer I presume :) 10:53 foobar---> Yog-home: they are 4314, so 19094 is ;) 10:53 knightfoo> pictograms then :P 10:53 foobar---> Yog-home: something like that indeed 10:53 dtj> Boo, louisiana and mississippi have literacy rates 15-20% lower than thailand and malaysia 10:53 @ hfx_ben2> Teriander: "blog updated" means Interdictor's LJ? a second blog? 10:54 Mode: #interdictor[+o DR|] by doofoo 10:54 knightfoo> yeah, i know some people from LA 10:54 enwilson> WE'VE GOT A PRAYER: Huge convoy of fuel and generator engineer types affiliated with Bell South just moved down the street toward their building. That's where 2 of our OC3s that went down are at Bell's main. 10:54 dre^^> latency is down... 10:54 Yog-home> foobar---: err..yeh 10:54 crschmidt> ah! d6, not v/b/anything else, for defender 6 on the radio 10:54 enwilson> From the blog 10:54 knightfoo> enwilson: yay 10:54 Yog-home> 19094 10:54 Chimi> i know somone online from new orleans. he has problems with commas. its hilarious. 10:54 knightfoo> and there was much rejoicing 10:54 dtj> when did the "No Child Left Unarmed" program start in NOLA 10:54 edible> you guys have any radio equipment at that place? 10:54 Eimann> Yog-home: *> 204.251.0.0/20 213.200.64.93 779 0 3257 7911 19094 4314 i 10:54 enwilson> As long as the cam was running, I knew they were still cooking 10:54 Knobee> noise in background sounds like a riot from Defender 6 10:55 Yog-home> ah cool 10:55 foobar---> yog, last announcement via 6395 seen at 16:02:45 UTC 10:55 Kheirag> Grr... my mirror died. 10:55 Yog-home> they lost two OC3s 10:55 servicesix> Anyone know of anything I can do to help from San Diego? 10:55 knightfoo> man, having worked in a datacenter, i commend those guys for keeping the thing running 10:55 servicesix> bloody useless out here. 10:55 knightfoo> servicesix: send money 10:55 crschmidt> servicesix: money to the redcross 10:56 macjunkie> yeah I'm amazed they've managed to keep things up 10:56 servicesix> Done that. 10:56 edible> send money to a local charity 10:56 knightfoo> then send more 10:56 knightfoo> :) 10:56 mrsquishie> has anyone been listening to the recent hospital broadcast on WWL? 10:56 macjunkie> a friend of mine goes to Tulane and their network is totally DOA 10:56 servicesix> I'm tapped out now. 10:56 dtj> start writing the screenplay 10:56 theagent> add that peercast stream to the wiki 10:56 jvanpelt> i'm listening to WWL 10:56 GhostFreeman> I can't access WWL, too much traffic 10:56 theagent> peercast://pls/007D48952E4E7D0992252C52EAE7C1CF?tip=192.153.154.157:7144 10:56 knightfoo> i thought it was bad when our DC went through a 6 hour utility outage .. i am humbled by their efforts 10:56 Eimann> Yog-home: http://83.243.0.22/index.cgi?target=misc.nostuff.directnicweb3 - Seems that they're back? 10:56 @ Teriander> Guys, try to limit your connection directly to the video feed, and use mirror feeds. And avoid the images link to help take the strain off the OC3 10:56 hfx_ben> squish: wwl 870 AM ? theres a feed? 10:57 @ Teriander> Guys, try to limit your connection directly to the video feed, and use mirror feeds. And avoid the images link to help take the strain off the OC3 10:57 mrsquishie> the video feed from the website 10:57 Eimann> Yog-home: Back as in lesser load and lesser latency ;) 10:57 JimmyWalker> I have a datacenter in Austin Texas with free space. 10:57 knightfoo> Teriander: need some place to host images? 10:57 mrsquishie> they were taking a call from workers in a hospital, they were running out of time on their generator and pleading for help 10:57 servicesix> I can offer some image hosting as well. 10:57 theagent> what are the mirror feeds... need to go up on wiki 10:57 Padathir> okay bets that interdictor carries a 1911 10:57 jvanpelt> yeah 10:57 Yog-home* checks the route server again 10:57 Eimann> JimmyWalker: Can you provide some VoIP stuff? IP -> PSTN? 10:58 Guy-Smiley> 2000 people have arrived at the Astrodome so far 10:58 JimmyWalker> I have no VOIP connectionts to the PSTN network 10:58 enwilson> Just checked local TV...WXII in Winston Salem, NC has raised nearly $349,000 for relief efforts so far... 10:58 Yog-home> still no new routes 10:58 Yog-home> or paths 10:58 @ SCSi|Work> heh 10:58 @ SCSi|Work> a 1911 10:58 Eimann> JimmyWalker: Hm, :-/ I can provide some, but they're oversea and terminated in the german pstn, so it isn't good either 10:58 Guy-Smiley> Fats Domino's missing 10:58 ICMB> Ok, peercast link is added. 10:58 @ hfx_ben2> ?? am I typing white on white? 10:59 dtj> Guy-Smiley, he's probably bobbing around somewhere 10:59 foobar---> yog, still unreachable from my homeline, drops dead at their telcove link. 10:59 ICMB> (No...crud) 10:59 Eimann> Yog-home: no new paths, but less latency 10:59 hfx_ben2* doesn't rate so leaves 10:59 @ SCSi> heh 10:59 JamesG> You can do VOIP -> PSTN using Skype 10:59 hfx_ben> Gawd, comms ... ask a simple question in a quiet channel and get ignored ... 10:59 mojo> dtj that was truly cold. 11:00 Yog-home> foobar---: i can trace to their web server still 11:00 foobar---> Yog-home: yeah, i can, from some other isp :) 11:00 dtj> i wonder what the fuel truck driver is getting paid 11:00 Eimann> JamesG: That's expensive and we can't put 2 or 4 T1 Linecards in the PBX 11:00 Yog-home> hrm..maybe it's flapping 11:00 -lilo:#interdictor- Again, hi all, and welcome to freenode. We recently set up blocking of private messages coming from unregistered users due to spam problems. If you need to talk via private message, you should probably register (/msg nickserv help register) and turn off the blocking (/msg nickserv set unfiltered on) 11:00 knightfoo> would this count as working in a combat zone? 11:00 hfx_ben> http://83.243.0.22/index.cgi?target=misc.nostuff.directnicweb3 looks great 11:00 Chimi> i think soo 11:00 Yog-home> and your ISP is ignoring the path 11:00 @ Pavix> If you are on the goodphuck stream it's going down for a few mins to allow 1k users 11:01 JamesG> Eimann: It's not *that* expensive. If some people want to make calls, you could easily buy enough credit to talk for hours for about $20 11:01 servicesix> redcross donation page is 404. damn it 11:01 jussiv> mp3-stream died here 11:01 @ Pavix> should be back up 11:01 enwilson> MSNBC: By Friday, 8600 troops will be in LA, 9500 in Mississippi 11:02 Knobee> if people would run peercast, we could all listen.... 11:02 Knobee> 8-) 11:02 hfx_ben> http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner is fine 11:02 Eimann> JamesG: But we can't use 60 or 120 at the same time for in/out calls, and we can't provide a server where the users can connect via sip, that's the point 11:02 _ln> folks 11:02 John_K> Eimann: what are you trying to do? 11:02 theagent> get SIPPHONE to contribute PSTN connections 11:02 JamesG> Eimann: Is there really that much need? How many people in there have net access? 5 or 6? 11:02 foobar---> Yog-home: impossible, as i am getting to telcove from there ;) 11:02 knightfoo> http://www.redcross.org/donate/donate.html 11:02 Guy-Smiley> the Govenor's going to have a news conference soon 11:03 Essington> hmm, mgno.com stopped responding ... 11:03 jvanpelt> http://www.digitalglobe.com/katrina_gallery.html 11:03 enwilson> I never seemed to get anything from mgno.com 11:03 Eimann> John_K, JamesG: The wiki says: "Offering VOIP(SIP) forwarding for a few hundred incoming phone numbers and a few dozen simultaneous inbound/outbound phone calls to any organization in effected areas that could put it to use. If you have bandwidth available and the means to provide VOIP clients (SIP software, VOIP handsets, etc) or a good use for a web-usable voice mail system, contact" 11:03 hfx_ben> my list of resources: http://hfx-ben.livejournal.com/587881.html 11:03 enwilson> except a URL not found msg 11:04 jvanpelt> http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/katrina/new_orleans_msi_aug31_2005_dg.jpg 11:04 jvanpelt> that's a great satelite pic of nola 11:04 jvanpelt> current 11:05 Herschel> last update on lj: "Something Awful, bad news. We have to take you offline for now. We have to get more 11:05 Herschel> OC3s back online and that's down the street. Doing what we can, people. 11:05 enwilson> heh 11:05 knightfoo> d'oh 11:05 Yog-home> foobar---: odd 11:05 servicesix> This is fucking unbelievable. 11:05 Padathir> bye bye sa 11:05 Yog-home> foobar---: they must hae lost the route back to your ISP 11:05 enwilson> Because they've been amazed they lasted this long 11:05 Yog-home> hehe.. directnic hosts Somethingaweful ? 11:05 macjunkie> heh 11:05 enwilson> Running off of zombie power and pixie dust 11:06 Yog-home> hey..it's an ISP.. all they need is 1) power 2) internet connectivity 11:06 Padathir> downstairs from them is the company that hosts sa 11:06 Eimann> Yog-home: hehe. ;) 11:06 enwilson> and considering that I spotted somebody drinking what looked like a Red Bull on cam last night, zombie power might not be too far off 11:06 Yog-home> hehe..yeh 11:06 @ Pavix> http://www.goodphuck.com:8088 <---that stream is set to handle 1500 users 11:06 Amish_Hooker> zippa colos SA's servers 11:07 Chimi> hmm. can anyone pin point the building the datacenter is in on that satelite image? 11:07 enwilson> Yep, SA is gone 11:07 Yog-home> zippa == directnic ? 11:07 macjunkie> yah 11:07 Mode: #interdictor[+o Amish_Hooker] by doofoo 11:07 enwilson> Zippa is their downstairs neighbor 11:07 hfx_ben> OMG he posted "We have to take you offline for now." right at the bottom of his long post. 11:07 Yog-home> oh 11:07 Yog-home> so they're taking care of zippa too ? 11:07 calenth> yeah as an SA person I'm shocked that we were up this long 11:07 Yog-home* is confused 11:07 calenth> i mean, wow 11:07 JamesG> They probably need the bandwidth 11:07 douglas_carmich> what does an OC3 need to stay up? 11:07 Padathir> Yeah, I expected it to go down last night 11:08 douglas_carmich> just the SONET muxes at the site and CO? 11:08 @ Amish_Hooker> SA stayed up a lot longer than I thought 11:08 Knobee> douglas_carmicha yes 11:08 calenth> i imean sa is a huge site AND it's basically just entertainment 11:08 douglas_carmich> they can get out once they hit the CO right? 11:09 dre^^> latency is getting better and better to directnic... 11:09 Yog-home> maybe they just unplugged zippa's drop into the OC3 to free up the OC3 11:09 dre^^> down to 100 ms from my location in CA with multiple gig-e 11:09 Yog-home> although OC3s arn't that fast.. 155mbits/s 11:09 boolean> rape-murder ? 11:09 dre^^> Yog-home: yeah I think so 11:09 hfx_ben> yaa, saw that ... combination 11:10 Yog-home> probably broken out into a few DS3s 11:10 hfx_ben> rumours of shots in the dome 11:10 douglas_carmich> yog-home>by the FLM right? 11:10 Yog-home> company I worked for had an OC12 11:10 jvanpelt> didn't they frisk people before they went into the dome? 11:10 macjunkie> we have gig-e here too 11:10 Yog-home> that's what pacbell/SBC installs usually 11:10 macjunkie> upgraded off an oc3 last year 11:10 hfx_ben> boy comms really suck down there! 11:10 macjunkie> can't imagine going back to it 11:10 Yog-home> OC12 rack w/ a bunch of shelfs for T1s and break outs for DS3s 11:10 enwilson> Think they did frisk people at the dome 11:10 pputnam: is now known as kow|wk 11:10 Yog-home* has no idea how that stuff works :) 11:11 @ ICMB> Hi 11:11 knightfoo> Chimi: i found the datacenter building, heh 11:11 Yog-home> shelves 11:11 enwilson> I saw a clip of what they'd pulled off of people 11:11 enwilson> Shears, and even a FORK 11:11 macjunkie> heh 11:11 macjunkie> wow 11:11 Chimi> knightfoo: circle it in a image editor and upload somewhere. 11:11 enwilson> Really, a fork... 11:11 knightfoo> workin on that now 11:11 JimmyWalker> Well. The problem as I see it is not the abality of that datacenter to stay online with fule and a generator. ti's are the CO's in NO going to be able to stay online to keep his connectivity online 11:11 knightfoo> didnt have gimp loaded for some reason 11:11 dre^^> who carries a damn fork in their pocket... 11:11 Padathir> are the pelicans navy? 11:11 enwilson> DON'T ANYBODY MOVE, or I'm taking the meatball off your spaghetti 11:11 knightfoo> i have afork 11:11 Yog-home> If anyone who works for or has connections with Bell South or Telcove is reading this, tell us what it's going to take to get those OC3s back up and running. We will try to coordinate and make it happen. 11:11 Padathir> or do we know what call sign is who 11:12 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: yeh totally 11:12 Chimi> knightfoo: what was the file size of that image? 11:12 JimmyWalker> I dont work for Bell South, but I can tell you from 10 years telcom experience that there are a LOT of devices that needs to stay running for that connectivity to stay up. 11:13 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: having a viable local loop doesn't make a difference if the CO is down or any paths along the way 11:13 douglas_carmich> how do you edit a post in an LJ? 11:13 bdigits: is now known as tolkachi 11:13 dre^^> douglas_carmicha: there's an edit button if you're logged in as the author 11:13 JimmyWalker> the repeters, the CO's, the MUX's and the DWDW gear all need power at each point. I really would be supprised if all the CO's involved stay uyp with no issues 11:13 @ ICMB> Well, Something Awful is dead. 11:13 JimmyWalker> Yog-Home, Can not agree more. 11:13 kow|wk> "there are armed civilians surrounding police officers overlooking the marriott hotel" 11:13 Yog-home> WTF..armed civilians surrounding police officers ? 11:13 spy> holy shit 11:13 DaWolfey> they unplugged us :( 11:13 macjunkie> wow 11:13 dre^^> er wait... maybe you have to go profile --> manage --> entries 11:13 hfx_ben> doug_car: chat window 11:13 DaWolfey> still, they need the network to stay up 11:13 nagual678> holy fucking shit 11:13 daniel_bergamin> this is going to get much worse soon 11:14 knightfoo> i should have scaled that image down, heh 11:14 royb> oh shit 11:14 royb> that's not so good. 11:14 DaWolfey> not let us nerds chat about rubbish 11:14 macjunkie> yeah seems like it 11:14 colin_> Oh man. 11:14 hfx_ben> dng 11:14 Chimi> knightfoo: lol 11:14 Boo> and the police aren't shooting them all - why?? 11:14 knightfoo> its a 3.6MB image 11:14 Tetraboy> It's appearing an armed showdown might be inevitable. 11:14 macjunkie> and the military coming in will help but will probably make things worse short term 11:14 JimmyWalker> That's the problem here. the CO's here in Texas in remote places run off of deisel or propane. But even they are not totally self sustaining for periods of weekes. 11:14 hfx_ben> douglas: chat window 11:14 Textral> omg 11:14 Yog-home> send in theh gaurd dammit 11:14 Chimi> knightfoo: got a place to upload it with the building circled? 11:14 knightfoo> yeah 11:14 douglas_carmich> jimmywalker>DWDM? 11:14 macjunkie> screw that send in the army 11:14 royb> because the civilians are better armed. 11:14 tolkachi> 1245? Local-time is 13:14 11:14 macjunkie> just start shooting people 11:14 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: yeh I always wondered how that long haul stuff worked 11:15 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: fiber and copper can't go forever w/o a relay station 11:15 theagent> 12:45? 11:15 jvanpelt> how is it that it's thursday and they still can't control that fuckin city?! 11:15 dre^^> you have to be pretty goddamn stupid to think that roughing up police is going to help in a situation like this 11:15 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: and those need power, etc 11:15 JimmyWalker> Dense Wave Division Multiplexers. It allows you to put mutiple OC-x type connections down the same fiber. 11:15 jvanpelt> imagine if there were riots in nola during good weather 11:15 theagent> 504-251-8234 11:15 @ doofoo> hey 11:15 hfx_ben> Yaa, really, how does does it take to control a large flooded city?! *shakes head and groans* 11:15 daniel_bergamin> you're not supposed to deploy military on american soil I don't think 11:15 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: I've always wanted to work for a telco to learn all that 11:15 JimmyWalker> right.. They all need power. Each CO in the hop 11:15 kow|wk> if there were riots in good weather the police would still have a communication and command infrastructure 11:16 macjunkie> i think they have sent the army into bad situations in the US befre 11:16 voodoo_in_tx> DirectNic: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=650+Poydras+Street,+new+orleans&ll=29.948994,-90.070038&spn=0.004001,0.007522&t=h&hl=en 11:16 macjunkie> not sure tho 11:16 theagent was kicked from #interdictor by doofoo (STOP THAT DO NOT POST NUMBERS) 11:16 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: what's the max range of fiber these days ? can't some single mode fiber go like several hundred miles ? 11:16 macjunkie> yog > depends on the laser 11:16 @ doofoo> no posting of numbers. 11:16 knightfoo> http://64.34.166.94/interdictor-images/new_orleans_msi_aug31_2005_dg_crystal.sized.jpg 11:16 mrsquishie> macjunkie: what they can do is federalize the national guard, but I mean restoring law and order is sort of part of the nat'l guards job description 11:16 JimmyWalker> Yog,, Trust me, you dont want to know what goes into all this stuff, it would just make your head expolode and your faith in our telemucation infrastructure fizzle 11:16 colin_> Do *not* post phone numbers. 11:16 knightfoo> building circled 11:16 Yog-home> yreh..i'm presuming the best equipment 11:16 @ Teriander> Anyone with professional HTML Design experience please message me: DirectNic project. 11:16 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: hehe :) 11:16 @ agentace> heh 11:16 @ agentace> basically 11:16 knightfoo> oh wow, thats really small 11:17 @ doofoo> post numbers and you will be banned, and your ips banned from the feeds 11:17 Yog-home> JimmyWalker: I already have a pretty good idea.. i'm a network engineer :) 11:17 Eimann> Yog-home: With ZX GBICs in the router (normal ethernet, not sdh) it's 80km. dwdm ... don't know, we've running it over 150km i think 11:17 macjunkie> yeah 11:17 JimmyWalker> Yog. I honestly dont know the max range on single mode. I know the transatlantic cable has some BAD ASS repeters, but my fiber ring we have repeters every 60 miles. 11:17 knightfoo> Chimi: the building is between the superdome and the bend in the mississippi river in the lower right corner 11:17 @ Teriander> Anyone with professional HTML Design experience please message me: DirectNic project. 11:17 jvanpelt> why dont the cops have satelite phones like the media have? 11:17 solcita> money. 11:17 solcita> too expensive. 11:17 Mode: #interdictor[+o colin_] by agentace 11:17 knightfoo> the media has more money than the police 11:17 Yog-home> Eimann: yeh.. I think ZXes are the longest range GBICs cisco has 11:18 Chimi> knightfoo: ty 11:18 douglas_carmich> hfx_ben>I don't see an edit button.. 11:18 douglas_carmich> hfx_ben>sorry...the feed is going so fast.. 11:18 jvanpelt> there should be a way to get them some 11:18 solcita> the cops I work with have nextel phones and they're limited to 100min/mo of phone and 100min/mo of directconnect. 11:18 solcita> Which is not nearly enough. 11:18 royb> i wonder if the local hams have a net set up 11:18 solcita> but anyway 11:18 douglas_carmich> doofoo>is it OK to post numbers for aid organisations? (ie. La Leche League for moms?) 11:18 JimmyWalker> yeah. Then there are other companies who make repeters for long haul fiber links that get further out, but honestly never looked into them cause the cost it out of this world. 11:18 Eimann> Yog-home: Should we move to a dedicated channel for this tech-stuff? 11:18 hfx_ben> douglas: I'm in your chat window 11:18 @ doofoo> aid numbers arefine if they are defined clearly 11:18 Yog-home> hehe :) 11:18 @ doofoo> just nothing from the scanner feeds 11:18 Botunda> Fox News:congress is going to reconvene. Meet in the next 24hrs 11:19 douglas_carmich> hfx_ben>I do not see a chat window.. 11:19 Bin_Shady> mises.org is the only mirror for the cam right? 11:19 GhostFreeman> They've stopped all search and rescue attempts 11:19 boolean> man the gov is slow to act 11:19 royb> gonna check qrz 11:19 Mode: #interdictor[+o doofoo] by agentace 11:19 @ Teriander> We need some assistance...Anyone with professional HTML Design experience please message me: DirectNic project. 11:19 Botunda> Yeah they are seriously f*ing up 11:19 hfx_ben> Teriander: private msgs are restricted on this server ... needs registration 11:19 Botunda> Teriander: what do you need? 11:19 @ Teriander> are you serious? jesus 11:19 crschmidt> Teriander: /msg nickserv set unrestricted on 11:19 sekhmet> hfx_ben: registering an account w/ nickserv takes like 2 seconds 11:19 @ Teriander> ok 11:20 JimmyWalker> I have no HTML experience, but I have a datacenter up and running in Austin Texas with room.. 11:20 hfx_ben> gee thanks sek 11:20 knightfoo> i have bandwidth and disk space as well 11:20 macjunkie> same here 11:20 Essington> If anyone who works for or has connections with Bell South or Telcove is reading this, tell us what it's going to take to get those OC3s back up and running. We will try to coordinate and make it happen. 11:20 Eimann> Ah, there's a message on nanog subject to the directnic help with the oc3 11:20 hfx_ben> Teri: design or function? I did MIL-SPEC R&D tech_docs 11:20 Chimi> i have some bandwidth and disk space on two servers also thats not being used. 11:20 Dean_C: is now known as Dean 11:20 macjunkie> if theres anything i can to help please let me know 11:21 GhostFreeman> http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/09/breaking-news-fema-suspends-rescue.html 11:21 enwilson> Oh, very disingenuous...Fox News cuts away from the Press conference before they talk about the international aid being offered to US 11:21 JimmyWalker> Essington> If you need me to make a call I will. Give me a circuti ID and I will call in a trouble ticket. 11:21 Padathir> oh exploitable! 11:21 Cattywampus> Yeah, S-A's not that big of a loss. ;-) 11:21 Essington> nope that was from interdictor's blog ... 11:21 enwilson> Eh, it's all backed up on drier ground... 11:21 JimmyWalker> Essington> but in my humbile opinion I bet there is a CO somewhere that is without power. 11:22 Knobee> did anyone _really_ think that all the telco equipment between NOLA and the world was still intact enough to live for more than 3 days? 8-\ 11:22 hfx_ben> irc.deadjournal is still swamped? 11:22 Essington> JimmyWalker: in his previous post he said there were some bell south trucks and generators heading in the direction of the CO 11:22 @ SCSi|Work> yeah 11:22 PelicanJockaway: is now known as Pelican_Jock 11:23 @ SCSi|Work> its still swamped 11:23 Not_Mortini> is there somewhere that says what the different names are that are on the scanners? 11:23 John_K> Teriander: pm working for you? 11:23 ICMB> Not_Mortini: Try this link from the wiki: http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm 11:23 Eimann> Knobee: I think the UPS' at the PoPs are out of fuel 11:23 JimmyWalker> well, sounds like they are on top of it. 11:23 Not_Mortini> Not the codes. The people. like. pelican/pelican jock 11:23 boolean> irc.deadjournal is not to be used anymore 11:23 Not_Mortini> etc 11:23 tolkachi> Update on http://interdictor.livejournal.com/ 11:24 kow|wk> taking a wild guess but i'm assuming pelican, etc., are people handling logistics 11:24 spy> Isn't that the Pelican navy base in FL? 11:24 tolkachi> the brown pelican is the state bird, on the radioreference site, they said it was the state gov't 11:25 tolkachi> callsign pelican1 = govenor 11:25 kow|wk> camera keeps buffering every few seconds 11:25 GhostFreeman> Can anyone confirm the AmericaBlog story 11:25 Knobee> which is? 11:25 gnat_x> Teriander: did you find html help? 11:25 Padathir> they've lost most of their links appearantly 11:25 GhostFreeman> Have we up and left NOLA 11:25 hfx_ben> Can someone say how to msg for help on register? 3 tries / no joy. 11:25 kow|wk> is it their end or is it something i can help rectify on mine 11:25 knightfoo> /quote nickserv help register 11:26 Padathir> msg nickserv register help 11:26 crschmidt> Padathir: help register 11:26 Padathir> errr other way around right :( 11:26 crschmidt> not register help 11:26 douglas_carmich> doofoo> 'Defined clearly' === ie. Call La Leche League at their public number 1-800-LA-LECHE? 11:26 hfx_ben> help 11:26 hfx_ben> baaa 11:27 hfx_ben> all I get is a prompt; no text 11:27 crschmidt> hfx_ben: what client you using? 11:27 kow|wk> nickserv is a bot 11:27 hfx_ben> mIRC 11:27 @ agentace> so when did everyone move here? :P 11:27 kow|wk> if you send it a message it will respond to you 11:27 kow|wk> but it's just like any other client 11:27 kow|wk> it may be bogged down or something? 11:27 hfx_ben> I sent /msg nickserv help register 11:27 hfx_ben> like 7 times 11:27 solcita> to register, just do /msg nickserv register 11:27 hfx_ben> 4 after Pad prompted me 11:28 hfx_ben> k tks 11:28 @ colin_> agentace: A few hours ago - the DJ server couldn't take all the clients. 11:28 kow|wk> -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER 11:28 kow|wk> -NickServ- 11:28 kow|wk> -NickServ- This enables you to register your nickname with a 11:28 kow|wk> -NickServ- password so only you can use it. Please try to 11:28 kow|wk> -NickServ- use obscure passwords that cannot be easily guessed. 11:28 kow|wk> etc. 11:28 tolkachi> freenode was setup at ~ 1130GMT 11:28 Knobee> bolo -- like pillaging is a new thing... 11:28 @ agentace> colin_: ah, interesting 11:28 kow|wk> pw's are case sensitive, etc. 11:28 @ colin_> Alright, we can move back over to #interdictor now ;) 11:28 kow|wk> sorry for spam 11:28 hfx_ben> well ... lets see 11:29 hfx_ben> thanks kow|tk 11:29 kow|wk> armed people in the hospital wtf 11:29 enwilson> Mercy, they're calling it "pillaging" on the scanner now? 11:29 Yog-home> Eimann: The Cisco ONS 15808 is a 2.5- and 10-Gbps DWDM transmission platform designed to support applications in the LH (0 to 600 km range) and ELH (600 to 2000 km range) markets. 11:29 Yog-home> 2000km! 11:29 Yog-home> crazy 11:29 daniel_bergamin> oh - special forces 11:29 @ SCSi|Work> id have armed people in the hospital 11:29 daniel_bergamin> deployed to hospital 11:29 @ SCSi|Work> good armed people 11:29 @ SCSi|Work> not bad looters 11:29 kow|wk> sent out the frank! 11:30 @ SCSi|Work> shit 11:30 kow|wk> s/t/d 11:30 @ SCSi|Work> i wish i was there 11:30 tolkachi> haha 11:30 Padathir> I doubt they're trusting anyone armed right now 11:30 @ SCSi|Work> you know i'd friggin be all over that shit on the rooftops with my .50 11:30 tolkachi> "this is your sitrep" 11:30 Knobee> dirty sanchez? 11:30 Eimann> Yog-home: hehe. 11:30 kow|wk> what is a sitrep? 11:30 Knobee> situation report 11:30 daniel_bergamin> situation report 11:30 Padathir> situation report 11:30 enwilson> Pillaging makes it sound like they're infested with VIKINGS 11:30 hfx_ben> gawd ... SMEAC 11:30 crschmidt> situation report 11:30 skep> statusreport 11:30 John_K> situation report 11:30 Knobee> or, what they said. 11:30 kow|wk> is that a family on the webcam walking own the street? 11:30 hfx_ben> it ain't rocket science 11:30 kow|wk> or two very short people 11:30 royb> SITUATION REPORT!!1111one 11:30 kow|wk> THX!!!111juan 11:31 royb> ... 11:31 royb> beware of juan. 11:31 @ agentace> oh damn, that guy just got owned 11:31 @ agentace> "Who's speaking?" 11:31 @ agentace> "COLONEL SANTOS!" 11:31 @ agentace> "Oh, ok sir!" 11:31 @ SCSi|Work> hey hey 11:31 tolkachi> "We've lost our city," lamented former Mayor Marc Morial. "I fear it's potentially like Pompeii." 11:31 kow|wk> lol 11:31 knightfoo> people are going to start marching out of NO?? 11:31 mayo> ahh .. chans back in order i see 11:31 kow|wk> thanks Marc Morial for instilling a sense of hope and morale in all of us. 11:32 dtj> i need to go out and rent Omega Man 11:32 @ agentace> mayo: yeah, sorry I had to leave this morning :/ 11:32 Knobee> and it was col. santos, not sanchez. 11:32 daniel_bergamin> they need to just start bringin in dump trucks and filling that whole city in to get it above sea level 11:32 @ agentace> Knobee: I said Santos :( 11:32 knightfoo> they should contract some engineers from the netherlands 11:32 JimmyWalker> BRB in about 30 minutes. 11:32 kampf> this peercast has a significant lag 11:32 Knobee> I read sanchez. 8-( sry. 11:32 kampf> but it's better than nothing 11:32 knightfoo> daniel_bergamini: just cover over the old city and start new? :) 11:32 mayo> agentace: no worries :) 11:32 dtj> to fix the dykes.... er, dikes 11:32 Knobee> yes, peercast is behind.. it's the nature of the net. 11:33 tolkachi> did he just say "close-air" 11:33 Knobee> levees. 11:33 @ agentace> mayo: I see lilo came in and took care of business :P 11:33 daniel_bergamin> knightfoo exactly 11:33 enwilson> Peercast is p2p, so you might be a good ways down the line from the source 11:33 knightfoo> kinda sucks that the levees that protected the city from the lake and river destroyed the wetlands that protected the city from storm surge 11:33 mayo> agentace: i saw him when he came in, i had to leave shortly after that for work, so i'mm starting to catch up on the logs just now :) 11:34 @ agentace> mayo: true, I forgot to enable logging 11:34 crschmidt> knightfoo: yeah, sorry. i'm trying 11:34 crschmidt> er 11:34 crschmidt> Knobee: 11:34 knightfoo> eh? heh 11:34 crschmidt> too many frickin nicks 11:34 Knobee> nice... 4 posts to NANOG for help from bellsouth. 8-) 11:34 @ agentace> knightfoo: yeah...of course when that stuff was originally built, the ecological impact wasn't really understood 11:34 mayo> agentace: i've got things logged since yesterday on the other network ... will be posting them shortly 11:34 knightfoo> agentace: kind of like the everglades 11:34 @ agentace> mayo: awesome, thanks 11:34 Eimann> crschmidt: jep :) 11:34 Knobee> crschmidt ? 11:34 @ agentace> knightfoo: yeah, basically 11:35 tolkachi> mayo- are you logging the new freenode channels also? 11:35 Knobee> corsair? 11:35 Yog-home> Knobee: heh :) 11:35 dtj> any estimation on the number of made-for-tv movies suddenly in the pipeline? 11:35 knightfoo> anyone see the FX movie 11:35 Yog-home> heh..prob at least 5 11:35 knightfoo> Oil Storm? 11:35 kow|wk> dtj: someone in another channel just asked the same question 11:35 @ agentace> dtj: leave it to HBO :P 11:35 mayo> tolkachi: yeah 11:35 Knobee> I wanna get back to reality where none of this shit actually happened. 11:35 tolkachi> http://mgno.com/ is DOWN 11:35 mayo> tolkachi: since the move to here this morning 11:35 Eimann> Knobee: NANOG is the North American Network Operators Group, if u mean that with "?" ;) 11:35 hfx_ben> meh ... no channels list here 11:36 tolkachi> mayo: good work man 11:36 adamhill> dtj: I am talking to TechTV now :) Geek In Hell: NOLA Unchained 11:36 knightfoo> Oil Storm was released a couple months ago and the main idea is that a hurricane destroys New Orleands and cripples the US oil refineries .. eerily close to real life 11:36 Knobee> Eimann: I've been on nanog for about 8 years. 8-) Just thought it was funny that so many people had posted from log --> NANOG. 11:36 tolkachi> mayo: will the new log be posted on the wiki.nola-intel.org? 11:36 solcita> ahh, radio checks on the radio. 11:36 Eimann> Knobee: Ahhhh, ok. ;) 11:36 Eimann> Knobee: never mind ;) 11:36 daniel_bergamin> yeah it's down for me too 11:37 Knobee> Eimann ;-) 11:37 hfx_ben> Radio checks ... like they're getting ready for something. 11:37 @ agentace> yeah 11:37 @ agentace> probably need to move some people 11:37 mayo> tolkachi: i guess it could post it there ... we'll see how much my server can handle, hehe 11:37 hfx_ben> gawd have they gotten more diesel? 11:37 solcita> probably just making sure that everyone's still online 11:37 @ SCSi|Work> hooray! the marines are there! 11:38 kow|wk> huh? wha? 11:38 @ agentace> huzzah! 11:38 kow|wk> did i miss something? 11:38 hfx_ben> Or they just switched over to this channel. 11:38 @ SCSi|Work> look at his post 11:38 kow|wk> k 11:38 tolkachi> mayo: no rush. but i think that as the information assimilates in the media, there will be a need for this information 11:38 knightfoo> kow|wk: the end of the world as we know it.. 11:38 kow|wk> i'm sitting here trying to pretend to work but failing 11:38 Chimi> lol i seen the big green truck roll by a few minutes ago. 11:38 @ SCSi|Work> yeah 11:38 @ SCSi|Work> same ehre 11:38 knightfoo> funny, im working too! 11:38 tolkachi> mayo: indymedia.us has already taken front page note of interdictor's blog 11:38 Knobee> working? Have not worked in 3 days now. 11:38 Chimi> somethigns scrwed up with my internet connection today. 11:38 hfx_ben> http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/39438.html tells the tale 11:39 solcita> hfx_ben: true, possible... but all the radio checks are taking up a looooooot of airtime. that's why we don't do them in my agencies anymore. 11:39 kow|wk> yeah, i've got a page open to that one 11:39 Karnak> hmm. LJ update 11:39 knightfoo> woo .. using the marines to get connectivity :) 11:39 hfx_ben> I jumped into #indy and left some data hours ago ... everyone was asleep 11:39 kow|wk> feed just went down for me 11:39 knightfoo> i think they came in just to get the lines back up 11:39 solcita> oops, lost my scanner feed 11:39 Padathir> why are the hospitals chattering 11:40 crschmidt> Padathir: radio call to see who's up 11:40 Knobee> checking radio comms. 11:40 ICMB> I think it's just verifying connectivity. 11:40 Knobee> or what he said. 11:40 hfx_ben> http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 hasn't sputtered 11:40 crschmidt> citizens and moorehouse did NOT reply 11:40 Padathir> I gathered -that- from the 10 codes 11:40 @ agentace> hmm 11:40 enwilson> Fierce rebuffering problems on mises.org here 11:40 Guy-Smiley> Congress is going to go back into session early to pass legislation for the hurricane 11:40 hfx_ben> A full net check ... hmmmm ... 11:40 Guy-Smiley> either tonight or tomarrow 11:40 SkilletAudio> Oh well its nice of them to join us 11:40 Knobee> now, I wonder if the natives have learned anything from iraq... 11:41 hfx_ben> Maybe they're expecting a rise in casualties. 11:41 Knobee> don't fight the military, calm down, then rebel... 11:41 hfx_ben> . /someone/ must be thinking ahead. 11:41 Encapsulate> Guy-Smiley: I would support a bill outlawing HUrricanes. 11:41 solcita> i think i'm back up, but everyone stoped talking. 11:41 Chimi> yeah, i would to, just outlaw em all togethor and we'll be fine. 11:41 Encapsulate> But then, once hurricanes are banned, only criminals will have hurricanes! 11:41 phoo> can i get the link to the webcam again? 11:41 Guy-Smiley> hahaha 11:42 ICMB> I can't get any of the webcam links to work. 11:42 Knobee> can i get the link to the webcam again? 11:42 Padathir> OWN your own hurricane! HURRY before the deadline! 11:42 Knobee> grr... 11:42 crschmidt> yep, it's quiet right now 11:42 Tetraboy> What TV chan has the best coverage? 11:42 Encapsulate> hahaha 11:42 Knobee> http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 11:42 Padathir> wwltv is working 11:42 knightfoo> hard to tell if anything is happening .. 11:42 solcita> my webcam stream stopped too. 11:42 phoo> Knobee, my apologies and thanks. 11:42 Chimi> same. 11:42 solcita> unless those cars are stopped in the middle of the road. 11:42 Chimi> there it goes again 11:42 hfx_ben> Guards /gotta/ be chattering elsewhere 11:42 tolkachi> Tetra: check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina for live coverage 11:43 Knobee> phoo: I didn't mean to dupe your post... stupid mouse click. 8-) Enjoy. 11:43 phoo> oh, i thought you were grring at me. :) 11:43 tolkachi> Tetra: look towards bottom for links 11:43 Knobee> no... just that I pasted what I did. ;) 11:44 Knobee> Can't wait till the animals overwhelm an APC or two. 11:44 Ladayna> Oh, that's not good 11:44 ICMB> Hmm...Interdictor's LJ isn't coming up for me. 11:44 Ladayna* is listening to the broadcast 11:44 Knobee> then we are gonna see trouble. 11:44 skep> 1:32 P.M. - New Orleans Homeland Security Chief Terry Ebbert calls FEMA's response to Hurricane Katrina an embarrassment. 11:44 hfx_ben> http://katrinahelp.info/wiki/index.php/Main_Page is good 11:44 Guy-Smiley> Govenor's on TV 11:44 Knobee> skep: great. 11:44 ICMB> There we go. 11:44 mark`> New Orleans hospital halts patient evacuations after coming under sniper fire, a doctor who witnessed the incident says. More soon. 11:44 Knobee> what did they want to see done?!? 11:44 enwilson> Dubya, Clinton, and Old George on now 11:44 WhatNot> whats the addy for the web cam? 11:44 @ agentace> damn 11:44 knightfoo> they should have been there before the disaster happened! 11:44 @ agentace> enwilson: where? 11:44 ICMB> http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 11:44 WhatNot> tu 11:44 enwilson> All news channels 11:45 enwilson> I'm looking at MSNBC 11:45 @ agentace> enwilson: damn...I don't have television 11:45 enwilson> aw criminy 11:45 enwilson> Check cbsnews.com 11:45 Encapsulate> enwilson: Start transcribing! 11:45 @ agentace> enwilson: ok, thanks 11:45 enwilson> they've been really good at live streaming 11:45 WhatNot> media player wont open that..dang 11:45 @ SCSi|Work> okay, im dumb, whats FEMA stand for? 11:45 Knobee> Federal Emergency Management Agency 11:45 solcita> Federall Emergency Management Age...yea 11:45 Encapsulate> Federal Emergency Management Agenc... 11:45 knightfoo> yeah, what he said 11:45 Encapsulate> What Knobee said. 11:45 solcita* laughs. 11:45 @ SCSi|Work> ok, thanks 11:45 Knobee> continuity of government folks. 11:46 solcita* gold star Knobee. 11:46 DrifterX> http://jameth.whatthefuck.com/aug2005/cop_looter.jpg 11:46 knightfoo> wikipedia.org/FEMA? :) 11:46 Ladayna> 5043923131 11:46 tolkachi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fema 11:46 Knobee* binds a key to "What he said" 11:46 Ladayna> 9854494780 11:46 Encapsulate> FEMA is usually linked to conspiracy, because they have amazing unchecked powers. 11:46 @ agentace> hehe 11:46 solcita> DrifterX: no way to know what really is going on there without context. 11:46 royb> there's a voip relay of the hurricane net set up by irlp: http://live.irlp.net:8000/listen.pls 11:46 @ agentace> x files movie! 11:46 Knobee* bows to the fema god. 11:46 royb> it's silent right now 11:46 knightfoo> and lots of money 11:46 Encapsulate> "THAT MAN'S PANTS BOTHER ME. SHOOT HIM AND PUT HIS WIFE INTO WORK DETAIL!" 11:46 Ladayna* hums he theme song 11:46 solcita> DrifterX: he could have just taken those away from a looter. Don't just assume from a picture. 11:46 solcita* irritated. 11:47 tolkachi> *Update on Interdictor 11:47 Knobee> http://live.irlp.net:8000/listen.pls < -- different from the New Orleans Scanner feed? 11:47 tolkachi> "Calling for A Volunteer" 11:47 knightfoo> there was a link on reddit yesterday about how black people were labelled as "looters" and white people were "obtaining supplies" by the media 11:47 royb> Knobee: yes 11:47 voodoo_in_tx> yeah sol, but there was video on MSNBC of cops looting, who when they saw they were being filmed, left their shopping carts full of stuff, and then when they thought cameras were gone, went back to them 11:47 Ladayna> Pelican Jock is on? 11:47 solcita> voodoo_in_tx: *nod* I'm not saying it's not happening. 11:47 Ladayna> http://216.22.26.45:8002/listen.pls <- what I'm listening to 11:47 enwilson> They were following that one cop around like it was A Current Affair... 11:47 Ladayna> He's calling for Bulldog 3, and Bulldog 6 11:47 enwilson> in the Walmart 11:47 Neovanglist> 'ki 11:47 Neovanglist> err 11:47 Neovanglist> 'lo 11:48 knightfoo> did oldmises.org go down? 11:48 solcita> When it comes right down to it, cops are just people. 11:48 Neovanglist> <-- Chris Gilbert from the comments 11:48 voodoo_in_tx> societal structure breaks down. classic study of it - we're seeing it live 11:48 Eimann> afk for 30 or 60 minutes, too much input the last hours. 11:48 royb> Knobee: that's the local amateur radio relay. 11:48 solcita> and people are going crazy there. it's natural you'd see that in the cops, too. 11:48 @ SCSi|Work> im glad the ham guys are still going strong 11:48 crschmidt> "make sure everything was fine"?! 11:48 solcita> (unfortunately) 11:48 solcita> for some values of "fine", I'm sure. =) 11:48 voodoo_in_tx> like i said, i don't have issue w/ people getting necessitites. water, food, replacement clothing for theirs that are wrecked by water/oil/etc, first aid stuff 11:48 Ladayna> Someone is asking about active phone lines 11:48 enwilson> And whoever asked me to transcribe Dubya...that's just CRUEL... 11:48 Ladayna> Whether or not they're having difficulty phoning out 11:49 @ agentace> enwilson: hahaha yeah 11:49 Sotek> I'm just impressed that some people have their act together enough to organize and try to handle some things. 11:49 enwilson> I always have trouble following him 11:49 Ladayna> And asking about e-mail updates 11:49 voodoo_in_tx> enwilson, just type "blah blah blah too late but i needed to eat cake" 11:49 kow|wk> SCSi|Work: hehe, weren't we talking about this a few months back? 11:49 royb> i need to get my ham license. 11:49 Ladayna> They're getting e-mail 11:49 kow|wk> SCSi|Work: you didn't need to flood New Orleans to prove your point! shit man 11:49 Ladayna* is useless. x_X 11:49 enwilson> He's basically telling the nation what we already know 11:49 Ladayna> Someone's standing by for the Chief of Staff? 11:49 Joe_Powerbook> per cnn.com: "New Orleans hospital halts patient evacuations after coming under sniper fire, a doctor who witnessed the incident says. More soon." 11:49 silver_whisper> Is W on the news again? 11:50 kow|wk> the information age hasn't quite upgraded to Hive Consciousness yet 11:50 Knobee> so, is it ironic that I can get a peercast server running under FreeBSD (Linuxulator), but the binary won't run on a Linux box? 11:50 mark`> very ironic. 11:50 Neovanglist> <3 FreeBSD :) 11:50 Ladayna> Oh, no 11:50 Ladayna> Misplaced patients 11:50 Alex_NYC> what is the peercast of? 11:50 Knobee> the NOLA scanner audio 11:50 Alex_NYC> shit i cant listen at work 11:50 Ladayna> MediCraft is supposed to be bringing patients to a different hospital 11:50 Tetraboy> FreeBSD :D 11:50 mojo> The Governor of LA just announced she has requested 40K troops to be sent into the state. Nat'l Guard of over 12K will be in NO by tomorrow. 11:51 Ladayna> But the hospital that is being transferred to can't get back in contact with MediCraft 11:51 crschmidt> Does anyone have a working stream right now? 11:51 silver_whisper> Is it still National Guard that's coming in? 11:51 @ agentace> Mr. Z, welcome 11:51 mark`> yes crschmidt 11:51 WhatNot> not me 11:51 silver_whisper> Or are they sending military? 11:51 Tetraboy> the webcam is not working well for me. 11:51 zztzed> Yo. 11:51 Jurian> scanner died? 11:51 mojo> Some troops will be sent to Baton Rouge. 11:51 crschmidt> mark`: link? 11:51 Knobee> crschmidt: yes. 11:51 DrifterX> Hello Mr. Z. 11:51 crschmidt> or anyone else 11:51 just_something> The webcam is slow, but it is working 11:51 solcita> I think mine went down again. 11:51 @ agentace> Jurian: I'm still getting it 11:51 mark`> http://205.252.89.181:8000/live 11:51 @ SCSi|Work> yup 11:51 @ DR|> crschmidt: http://stfunoob.com/nola/scanner.pls 11:51 silver_whisper> There's a lot of people on the cam. Just be patient with it. 11:51 @ SCSi|Work> kow|wk. yup 11:51 @ agentace> http://216.22.26.45:8002/listen.pls 11:51 zdiver> i had this working 2 secs ago: http://ods.org:8001/scan 11:51 crschmidt> thanks 11:51 solcita> says it's still up, tho. 11:51 mojo> The 82nd Airborne is expected to be deployed today. 11:51 silver_whisper> mojo, where'd you hear that? 11:51 Jurian> agentace: ah thanks, that one works :) 11:52 mojo> WWL TV 11:52 @ SCSi|Work> kow|wk. maybe the tards who think ham radio was killed by the internet and cell phones will shove this in their pipe and smoke it 11:52 @ Amish_Hooker> the main stream times out after a period of time and has to reconnect. Many of the relays are coming off of my relay 11:52 Scud: is now known as Wotan 11:52 @ SCSi|Work> kow|wk. or shove it somewhere else 11:52 Wotan: is now known as Zephyrus 11:52 @ agentace> SCSi|Work: yeah, good call 11:52 silver_whisper> oh, ham radio is alive and VERY well. and obviously serves its purpose. 11:52 enwilson> Oh, so Clinton and Bush the Elder were there for moral support 11:52 @ agentace> SCSi|Work: HAM radio will never die, hopefully 11:52 mojo> The announcement of deploying the 82 Airborne was on CNN. 11:52 crschmidt> DR|: thanks 11:52 skep> Governor Blanco: Superdome now under control, evacuations resume. 11:52 @ DR|> crschmidt: yep 11:52 edible> hmm 11:52 Pelican_Jock> ... 11:52 kow|wk> agentace: yeah, we were talking about this before, how ham radio was highly effective when all of our delicate comm. infrastructure was down 11:53 enwilson> Landlines are only as good as the land the lines are on... 11:53 @ SCSi|Work> and nothign works witout power 11:53 edible> i need to get an antenna, i've got a couple rigs i should setup 11:53 Bin_Shady> slick willy and daddy bush 11:53 @ SCSi|Work> thats why we have field day every year 11:53 edible> lots of hams prepare for emergencies 11:53 @ agentace> kow|wk: yeah, you can transmit thousands of miles with only a few watts if you know what you're doing 11:53 @ SCSi|Work> for shit like this 11:53 kow|wk> and scsi made the point that if lines were to go down like that, it'd be the ham radio guys who would still be operational and sending out information 11:53 Beau|Nite: is now known as Beaukat 11:53 mojo> 40K troops is allot. They also have police from other states. 11:53 edible> have field setups and battery power 11:53 enwilson> I wonder if there are any people in NO with those Freeplay radios...the ones that you can wind up for power... 11:53 Knobee* got his ham license to do packet data. 11:53 @ agentace> kow|wk: yeah, definitely... 11:53 mojo> The military will bring some comms equipment. 11:54 @ agentace> enwilson: depends on who decided to loot those ;) 11:54 skep> wtf..cnn breaking news: New Orleans hospital halts patient evacuations after coming under sniper fire, a doctor who witnessed the incident says 11:54 enwilson> Well, those are usually in the RadioShack... 11:54 Zephyrus> the problem is civvy comms, especially in cities just aren't designed for this kind of event 11:54 Doobry> mojo: do you think that will be secured or could we listen to it? 11:54 enwilson> when they're anywhere 11:54 royb> i'm sure there are. 11:54 Zephyrus> military comms will be secure 11:54 Knobee> is that guy's name really "Major Showoff"? 11:54 [BWC]_AtG> sniper fire? 11:54 kow|wk> jesus i hope they didn't actually *hit* anyone with that sniper fire 11:54 silver_whisper> when I have a little extra income and can afford the hardware, I fully plan on jumping on the ham radio boat 11:54 @ agentace> Doobry: mil comm is usually scrambled 11:54 mojo> It will most definitely be encrypted comms. 11:55 Knobee> Zephyrus: except when they have to talk to other agencies... 11:55 enwilson> Even CB would be helpful at this point 11:55 Knobee> inter-agency is the big failing of "crypto" comms. 11:55 Doobry> thought so.. Shame. Tx 11:55 silver_whisper> could you imagine if every household had just one ham radio set? 11:55 Jurian> yep, and you don't need a license for CB 11:55 kow|wk> I'm taking bets on max channel population, btw. 11:55 silver_whisper> wouldn't even have to be elaborate. but all this non-communication would be a non-issue. 11:55 silver_whisper> a girl can dream. 11:55 Knobee> silver_whisper: yeah, then it would be like IRC 11:55 Zephyrus> the way I'd expect it to work (have some Dist recovery experienc,e but not us style) is that the army would dist some comms units to other agencies 11:55 @ agentace> Jurian: quiet, they'll start looting the mack trucks 11:55 RuralRob> We can't have more HAM, it gets in the way of BPL! ;-) 11:55 silver_whisper> hah, true. 11:55 knightfoo> who do i need to contact if i want to donate FTP space for images? 11:55 agentace* smacks RuralRob :/ 11:55 Knobee> way too much FUFUFUFUFU 11:55 royb> i don't think anyone gives two shits about licenses in cases like this. 11:55 Zephyrus> os they'd deploy small comms units to the other agencies so they could all talk on a command open circuit 11:56 Knobee> kinda ruins HF as well. 8( 11:56 kow|wk> keep it out of the hands of the cops, at least 11:56 @ Amish_Hooker> BPL lol 11:56 Jurian> agentace: heh, they would, if they were on IRC and reading this 11:56 royb> BPL-- 11:56 zztzed> Actually I heard about some kind of BPL technology that doesn't totally fuck up ham radio being tested recently... 11:56 voodoo_in_tx> if interdictor has paid LJ, he has pic space there: pics.livejournal.com 11:56 silver_whisper> I wonder if he even knows... lol 11:56 kow|wk> it's not 11:56 kow|wk> i'm pretty sure 11:56 Doobry> someone paid it for himm. 11:56 @ agentace> zztzed: yeah, it's more expensive though, which is why companies are reluctant to deploy it 11:56 silver_whisper> yeah it is 11:56 kow|wk> ah, there you go 11:56 silver_whisper> he got sponsored 11:56 [BWC]_AtG> he doesnt need it 11:56 [BWC]_AtG> he got the bandwidth 11:56 @ SCSi|Work> i was going to offer a mirror for the pics 11:56 Neovanglist> knightfoo: he said he's not going to use the extra pipe to offload the images, so it's down for now 11:56 Encapsulate> kow|wk: When september 11 happened, we set a CNN feed of the Closed Captioning. Our ircnet went from ~100 regulars to over 1000. 11:56 hfx_ben> silver: are you monitoring 14.265? 11:57 @ SCSi|Work> but it looks like a zillion ppl already volunteers 11:57 silver_whisper> indeed. 11:57 Chimi> i did offer a miror already 11:57 voodoo_in_tx> [BWC]_AtG, bandwidth's only good if it's got a connection 11:57 knightfoo> Neovanglist: alright 11:57 Knobee> Encapsulate: did you do that manually or some automated gizmo? 11:57 royb> someone should get lj staff to give his fotobilder unlimited space. 11:57 voodoo_in_tx> royb good idea 11:57 kow|wk> it's irrelevant, though, if he isn't going to waste bandwidth uploading 11:57 hfx_ben> silver: does SATERN have a feed? 11:57 Knobee> hfx_ben: is there a feed of 14.265 anywhere? 11:57 Encapsulate> Knobee: They had it running on their chat server, which was an ircd, so we used a net::irc perl bot to just spit it across and format it. 11:57 Ladayna> This is stress in a whole new way 11:57 Doobry> Is it me or has the Guard stopped using this feed? All I've had is hospitals for the last 30 minutes.. Since the "Special Forces" moment.. 11:58 Knobee> Encapsulate: cool. 11:58 Ladayna> Totally different than anything I've ever experienced before 11:58 hfx_ben> heh ... read my mind: I've looked everywhere; no joy 11:58 Ladayna> And I'm only a spectator 11:58 SkilletAudio> Seems to me the guard went offline about 2 hours ago...probably got cell phone communication reliable and went that way 11:58 kow|wk> they said to watch the feed for images of marines taking over 11:58 kow|wk> but i'm not seeing any marines 11:58 ICMB> Man, I just can't get *any* of the streaming video to work. 11:58 JamesG> So many geek people watching, I don't think bandwidth would be a problem if mirrors are needed.. I alone can offer unlimited bw on a multi-Gig-fiber connection :) 11:58 Knobee> people on the street (video feed) 11:58 royb> i'd leave the streaming video alone. 11:58 hfx_ben> OPs: please add scanner channel name to topic 11:58 royb> they're hurting for bandwidth 11:59 silver_whisper> I'm having issues over here. I'm getting interference from something, so I can't hear anything but static 11:59 Neovanglist> JamesG: there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth :) 11:59 kow|wk> i think the video is long since maxed out anyway 11:59 T7g> What is the scanner channel name? 11:59 royb> #interdictor-scanner 11:59 N`Grath> i cant even get a route to them now 11:59 hfx_ben> OPs: please add scanner channel name to topic 11:59 T7g> thanks 11:59 Tassium> The scanner keeps shutting down for me 11:59 JamesG> Neovanglist: Well ok, unlimited traffic 11:59 enwilson> Press conference on WWL: sheet pilings are going to be driven into the 17th St levee 11:59 enwilson> They're making an access road on the levee. 12:00 voodoo_in_tx> if you're getting voip going, y'all should do a phone post to LJ so we could hear your voices along w/ seeing faces 12:00 royb> haha. "press on to where" 12:00 Zephyrus> anyone heard how long it's going to take to repair the levées? 12:00 silver_whisper> they might not. 12:00 royb> Zephyrus: i don't think anyone has gotten that far yet. 12:00 Knobee* got orders last night to prepare for medical transport coming into RDU. 12:01 silver_whisper> what I've heard is that one plan is to bust a bigger hole in the levee holding the water in, let it all drain out, then repair it. 12:01 mojo> The Army Corp of Engrs has only been saying we won't predict a completion. 12:01 royb> publically at least. i'm sure the army core of engineers already as a plan in place. 12:01 kow|wk> it was interesting to see pictures on bbc of the levee broken on one side and *completely dry* on the other 12:01 dr0h> something must have happened. 25 people just joined the scanner chan in 10 seconds =/ 12:01 silver_whisper> yeah, someone posted the channel name here. 12:01 Knobee> silver_whisper: uh... it can't drain out. 12:01 Encapsulate> kow|wk: Yea, the london st. levee is liek that. 12:01 mojo> What is the scanner channel? 12:01 Sotek> NO's below ground level... 12:01 dr0h> ah 12:01 kow|wk> #interdictor-scanner 12:01 Encapsulate> Houses destroyed on one side, looks fine on the other. 12:01 Knobee> below water level even. 12:01 Zephyrus> don't you mean sea level? 12:01 @ agentace> I'll add it in a sec 12:01 hfx_ben> yaa ... ops refuse to put it into the topic ... go figure 12:01 kow|wk> someone /topic that 12:01 kow|wk> or not 12:02 Zephyrus> thing is though, from what it appears to me the pontchartrain lake is about 3m ABOVE sea level 12:02 kow|wk> i think nobody's noticed it is all 12:02 Sotek> ... sea level, yes. 12:02 Zephyrus> so it's going to keep flooding until the water finds its level 12:02 knightfoo> they were talking about breaching some of the levees in certain areas to drain the water out of the city instead of pumping it 12:02 hfx_ben> FWIW have been calling for addition to topic since channel started 12:02 Pavix changed the topic of #interdictor to: Welcome to our new home | http://www.nola-intel.org | http://ods.org:8001/scan , http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner | transcriptions at #interdictor-scanner 12:02 knightfoo> that only works in some areas though 12:02 hfx_ben> yaa, nice Pavix 12:03 Doobry> ah, Colon whoever back on 12:03 Zephyrus> there's not going to be a quick or easy answer 12:03 DrifterX> Full story on the pic from earlier: http://www.nola.com/hurricane/katrina/pdf/083105/a5.pdf 12:03 Zephyrus> and any kind of rainfall is going to make a big mess of things 12:03 Knobee> can't get much worse... 12:03 @ Pavix> And on that note, I need a bath..I stink. brb 12:03 theagent> FOX news showing dead bodies 12:03 nagual678> New Orleans hospital halts patient evacuations after coming under sniper fire, a doctor who witnessed the incident says. More soon. 12:03 Guy-Smiley> classy 12:03 Knobee> really? They can't show dead bodies... 12:03 Knobee> nobody ever actually DIES. 12:04 hfx_ben> 1400 police-trained guards arrive NOLA every day 12:04 knightfoo> maybe they're not quite dead yet 12:04 theagent> from a distance... just showed along side of road 12:04 Knobee> they're getting better.... 12:04 jon787> so apparently the marines are showing up in NOLA now 12:04 gnat_x> Knobee: no, only americans actually die. according to fox 12:04 Knobee> CNN had a pix on front page of web of dead body ... 12:05 Knobee> "The body of a woman who died at the convention center sits in a wheelchair" 12:05 flask-> is interdictor's webcam just clogged, or is it offline? 12:05 SkilletAudio> Mm, during a time of crisis, people still can put aside their differences and be snarky about America,. 12:05 altinos> I think it's clogged, I can't get to it 12:05 hfx_ben> NB: To learn more about the VOIP-WXNET group, please visit 12:05 hfx_ben> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VOIP-WXNET 12:05 enwilson> They had to pull the box off the net to free up bandwidth 12:05 OctZ> directnic.com seems to be down 12:05 Kheirag> Awesome... I always envied the Mexican press for its lack of squeamishness. 12:05 Lazerdye> Didn't the Red Hat Societe(not Linux, the old ladies) have some sortof convention in New Orleans? 12:05 theagent> webcam is up but clogged 12:05 Knobee> I'm still watching via the posted URL 12:05 Knobee> not much happening. 12:06 theagent> picture server is the one going offline 12:06 enwilson> The Blog: "Until the OC3s come back, we need to lower our load." 12:06 enwilson> ah 12:06 @ Teriander> DirectNic is up 12:06 SauronTGM> their website is still up 12:06 LoRez> how's the scanner know who's talking 12:06 Knobee> talk groups. 12:06 kow|wk> Lazerdye, isn't it purple hat? 12:06 Knobee> nice 800Mhz radio system... not for shit (being a vollie myself), but neat wizmo toys. 12:07 Shandryl> Ah, here's where everyone went while I slept.... 12:07 (Users #interdictor) 12:07 Irssi: #interdictor: Total of 100 nicks [12 ops, 2 halfops, 0 voices, 86 normal] 12:07 enwilson> The Coralized mirror the pictures is still going... 12:07 Lazerdye> kow|wk: if you mean the picture, I didn't look, let me check something... 12:07 enwilson> http://sigmund.biz.nyud.net:8090/kat/index.html 12:07 kow|wk> no i mean purple hat society 12:07 Alaric``> where's the mirror, please? 12:07 silver_whisper> kow: it's red hat. 12:08 SCSi|Work: is now known as SCSi^ 12:08 flask-> blues legend fats domino has gone missing... sad 12:08 kogyaru> source for fats domino? 12:08 WhatNot> did they look on Blyueberry Hill? 12:08 @ Teriander> AIM = Teriander 12:08 Zephyrus> missing doesn't mean anything though with the complete lack of organization at the moment 12:08 Lazerdye> No, the newswas they got redirected away from new orleans because of the storm. 12:08 @ Teriander> AIM = Teriander 12:09 flask-> kogyaru: cnn.com 12:09 WhatNot> the people of NO are looking like animals to the rest of the world..its sad :( 12:09 soleil> Are all the police scanners the same? The Fats Domino news is also on Cobalt 12:09 SauronTGM> hey a Skycoaster on Fox News 12:09 kogyaru> whatnot: summary for that is poverty/racism combination is *bad* in that part of the country 12:10 boolean: is now known as naeloob 12:10 Zephyrus> what time zone is NO in ? GMT -5? 12:10 kow|wk> WhatNot: if it's any comfort, I was in Seattle during the WTO riots, and it's probably the same now; a small minority of people looting and pillaging while the rest of the city has long, long, long since abandoned 12:10 SauronTGM> GMT-6 12:10 Zephyrus> cheers 12:10 WhatNot> kow|wk..I know its a small minority...but it's ll thats being broadcast 12:10 naeloob: is now known as boolean 12:11 Mode: #interdictor[-b *!*@panix5.panix.com] by Soms 12:11 kow|wk> yeah. same as seattle 12:11 kow|wk> don't sweat it, it happens 12:11 Tassium> WhatNot: People are people all the world 'round. They're acting like animals, sure, but I don't think it's particular to that one area.. 12:11 SkilletAudio> :( http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html the picture and caption 12:11 H2020> what is 'pillaging'? 12:11 Soms* pokes at the ops 12:11 kow|wk> plus with mardi gras its not like people thought of New Orleans as a den for refined behavior :p 12:11 WhatNot> well..didnt see it with the tsunami... 12:11 SkilletAudio> "many, many bodies" inside and outside the convention center 12:11 soleil> Are all the police scanners the same? 12:12 @ Amish_Hooker> no they are not soleil 12:12 WhatNot> but..there are ppl acting just like animals...human nature..amazing all the same 12:12 Zephyrus> only takes 2 days for someone to die of thirst 12:12 kow|wk> all of the scanner links are to the same scanner 12:12 gnat_x> new orleans was already damn near lawless. 12:12 Kheirag> Actually, I heard reports of post-tsunami kidnappings / rapes. 12:12 WhatNot> reports..yes 12:13 ropeguru_work> Now snipers are shooting at hospitals... This is absurd... 12:13 mojo> LA Governor just said that reports of violence at Superdome are false, and asks the press to stop spreading those rumors. 12:13 silver_whisper> I love how my feed is three minutes behind real-time. 12:13 Zephyrus> also bear in mind the tsunami hit lots of very remote areas so there was nowhere near as sophisticated coverage 12:13 Alaric``> yeah. need some countersniper fire. 12:13 @ SCSi^> press? stop spreading rumors? 12:13 Mode: #interdictor[+o Soms] by Amish_Hooker 12:13 Neovanglist> operator reported issues with bell south land lines 12:13 enwilson> Governor Blanco on MSNBC 12:13 Tassium> silver_whisper: 3 minute lag ain't bad for a situation like this 12:13 Neovanglist> probably related to the OC3 drop 12:13 @ SCSi^> nevah! 12:13 kow|wk> i've heard a lot of people make the case that one major underlying reason for a lot of this is the utter disenfranchisement of a lot of the people involved 12:13 gnat_x> anyway, how do you expect people who have 0% expectation of survival to act? animal insticts have to kick in at some point, despite our wishing that we aren't animals. 12:13 SauronTGM> From what im hearing on the scanners, its not rumors 12:13 altinos> The cam is connecting for me, it appears, but the screen is black :-/ 12:14 GhostFreeman> So that 12:14 silver_whisper> mine's got a picture, but there's nothing going on. 12:14 kow|wk> governor's probably just trying to put out fires before they start, whether they're true or not 12:14 SauronTGM> their talking about Bellsouth now on the scanners 12:14 GhostFreeman> That's it? We're leaving them behind? 12:14 silver_whisper> leaving who behind? 12:14 zdiver> sauron, what scanner are you listening to? 12:14 zdiver> url pls? 12:14 Sotek> the one in #interdictor-scanner I would guess ... :P 12:14 niftybitch> blah 12:14 kampf> see wiki at nola-intel.org 12:15 enwilson> She was really getting bent about the shooting rumors at the Superdome before MSNBC picked up 12:15 SauronTGM> http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=louisiana+scanner&numresult=25&x=22&y=7 12:15 @ SCSi^> blah is right 12:15 zooted: is now known as zooteD 12:15 niftybitch> $68 frank 12:15 niftybitch> woot. I'm so good 12:15 Tassium> gnat_x: Well, if they have a 0% chance of survival, I'd hope they'd die like thinking, reasoning people instead of rabid, clawing animals. But, it's easy for me to say that here safe behind my desk. 12:15 kow|wk> $68 for what? 12:15 Knobee> Foxnews reported a national guard troop shot in the Superdome. 12:16 SkilletAudio> last night 0145, troop shot in the leg. 12:16 @ SCSi^> groceries 12:16 enwilson> Fox News has been first with all sorts of bad info 12:16 Knobee> s/foxnews/CNN 12:16 kow|wk> leet 12:16 silver_whisper> whoever this ponce on CNN is, he is the most awful and uncompassionate news reporter of all time. 12:16 nagual678> hails to interdictor for passing along TRUE information. all the more official media/tv/radio coverage make it sound like there's no one rioting or that there are not really many incidents 12:16 Knobee> follow the link on CNN.com for "superdome fires" 12:16 Knobee> has an interview that confirms the shooting. 12:16 kow|wk> heh 12:16 gnat_x> Tassium: the thing is that its hard to rational when you are hungry, thirsty, tired, scared and wondering why you're in the richest nation in the world and they can't help you. 12:16 kow|wk> in seattle they talked UP the violence 12:17 kow|wk> in new orleans they talk DOWN the violence 12:17 Sotek> Not incredibly surprising, on either account. 12:17 kow|wk> gnat_x: Don't forget that the mayor told the people of NO to evacuate *DAYS* ago 12:17 kow|wk> before the hurricane 12:17 Tassium> gnat_x: I suppose.. I just can't conceive of what's happening there though. I wouldn't DREAM of doing half the shit I'm hearing reports of, even if I thought I'd be dead in a day or two. 12:17 Tetraboy> Pilot of some boat has been shot. 12:17 Zephyrus> also note that nothing was done for people without their own transport 12:17 JamesG> When/If they rebuild the city, is it going to be called New New Orleans? 12:17 Sotek> I mean, from the simplest perspective ... the media wants people watching, not panicking. They'll talk things up in general, but imagine what it'd be like if they were talking this up? 12:18 jason42> kowwk: not everyone had the means to evacuate 12:18 dre^^> uh god 12:18 Knobee> then need to raize the city and move upland. 12:18 Zephyrus> maybe the two new's will cancel and they'll just call it Orleans 12:18 Neovanglist> oh fuck 12:18 Jurian> ugh, pilot of the boat has been shot :| 12:18 kogyaru> ?? 12:18 kow|wk> Sotek: watching not panicking is a good way to put it 12:18 Chimi> alot of people didnt evac even if they could of too 12:18 mojo> kow|wk the problem wasn't the frigging hurricane. 12:18 gnat_x> yeah, that's true. a fiair number couldn't leave though. and no one thought that they *couldn't* leave later. 12:18 Doobry> Food drops on CNN 12:18 nagual678> the pilot of the ferry has been shot. there are guardsmen on the boat. that's all the info I have. the pilot on that boat has been shot 12:18 Zephyrus> surely the hurricane was the problem? 12:18 mojo> It was the levee break 24 hours after the storm was over. 12:18 RuralRob> Basically what we're seeing here is that we are NOT a rich, 1st-world country but a ragged 3rd world one with a giant military. 12:18 Tassium> nagual678: Where you getting that? 12:18 Encapsulate> Guh. 12:18 Zephyrus> because that was what caused the breaches in the flood defences? 12:18 nagual678> Tassium : scanner feed 12:18 Sotek> mojo: The hurricane lead to the problem. 12:19 kow|wk> mojo: you're just obfuscating it. it was known that the hurricane would cause this problem 12:19 Tassium> nagual678: Ah, I'm a little lagged on that. 12:19 @ Pavix> that's fucking sick...shooting a boat pilot for no reason 12:19 nagual678> join #interdictor-scanner for the transcript 12:19 Padathir> jesus fuck 12:19 kow|wk> it's been known for some time that this was a very significant risk 12:19 Encapsulate> Pavix: Maybe they were tring to hijack the boat. 12:19 Tetraboy> CNN reporting hospital sniper fire. 12:19 Knobee> Pavix sure there was a reason... they'd been repressed. 12:19 N`Grath> is directnic.com still up? i cant reach either nameserver listed for them in the com-zone 12:19 InsomniaCity> no shit.. homeland security on the air :) 12:19 mojo> kow|wk most of the people who didn't leave couldn't leave. 12:19 kow|wk> if you want ultimate irony, i read an article yesterday from Popular Mechanics that was dated (get this) 9/11/2001 discussing this VERY possibility 12:19 gnat_x> RuralRob: no we're first world. there's no rich people left in NO, and that's what law enforcement is set up around protecting 12:19 Zephyrus> there was a lot of talk about the dangers to new orleans after Hurricane Ivan last November 12:19 jason42> #scanner isnt fucked anymore. sorry 12:19 Prodigy_B> Homeland Security chiming in on the scanner? 12:19 SauronTGM> website is still up 12:19 mojo> A wide variety of reasons. Hell commercial airlines stranded some people in NO. 12:20 gnat_x> log6? 12:20 kow|wk> additionally, i'm told, residents have voted down Levee Upgrades consistently for the last 20 years 12:20 Tassium> I wonder if the pilot is alive 12:20 Knobee> is there a good winamp "record" plugin? 12:20 silver_whisper> oh, that's brilliant. 12:20 Sotek> There's a whole lotta blame to go around. 12:20 silver_whisper> hope all that tax money they saved went into insurance... 12:20 kow|wk> i don't have any corroboration or definitive link for that, but the point is 12:20 @ Soms> Not really, but I have been recording it all 12:20 Prodigy_B> Baton Rouge chiming in now? 12:20 kow|wk> rationalize later 12:20 gnat_x> silver_whisper: nope went to iraq 12:21 mojo> Now is NOT the time to blame. That's a pointless palor game. 12:21 silver_whisper> gnat: was trying to be optimistic. 12:21 soleil> Half the scanner won't even work for me. fuck 12:21 Knobee> Soms: cool. 12:21 Prodigy_B> Does that mean they've got a connection to the outside world know? 12:21 Prodigy_B> now? 12:21 kow|wk> right, it's not, and if you read the context of the discussion i said that in, you'll understand why i said it 12:21 SkilletAudio> What is wrong with this sentence: 12:21 Padathir> knobee: you can use the diskwriter output plugin, but if you want to record the stream likely something like streamripper is what you want 12:21 kow|wk> move along plz 12:21 SkilletAudio> "Bodies are scattered inside and outside the convention center" 12:21 Zephyrus> how close can you get to new orleans by sea (not up the river)? 12:21 pyroman002> so there are snipers shooting at people trying to evac critical patients 12:21 knightfoo> Zephyrus: a couple miles 12:21 Tetraboy> We can do nothing about criminal activity. 12:21 mojo> Then drop it kow. 12:21 Zephyrus> given that I would suggest one of the biggest sources of help will be the USN when they get there 12:21 zdiver> zephr, about 100 miles 12:22 knightfoo> oof, its that far? 12:22 Zephyrus> that far? 12:22 pyroman002> WTF is wrong with these animals 12:22 Zephyrus> that's going to make things difficult 12:22 DaWolfey> homeland security have just siad they dont want crime reports, they only want to deal with evac 12:22 ukengineer82> what's going on? 12:22 zdiver> as the crow flies, not that far 12:22 voodoo_in_tx> not only that, but remember that at least some part of this poulation is probably psychotic/mentally disturbed (statistically probable) 12:22 zdiver> but up the river, quite far 12:22 voodoo_in_tx> give them access to weapons, put them in firekeg situation 12:22 InsomniaCity> voodoo_in_tx: and without medication 12:22 voodoo_in_tx> we not only have random lawlessness, but basically crazy armed people 12:22 voodoo_in_tx> right 12:22 phoo> WHAT local law enforcement? 12:22 Textral> That's what I was thinking 12:22 SkilletAudio> 10,000 people at the convention center, they cant get 10 together to form a detail to put the deceased in a bathroom or something to get them away from teh living 12:22 Zephyrus> I mean the USN will deploy their hospital ship and if they're being sensible a couple of marine helicopter carriers 12:22 micks3a> the uniformed looters 12:22 Textral> there IS no local law enforcement 12:23 Zephyrus> this is what the navy's good at 12:23 voodoo_in_tx> you figure, 3-5% of population is probably clinically ill mentally 12:23 altinos> Didn't a bunch of police officers quit already? 12:23 Zephyrus> but a 200nm round trip... 12:23 voodoo_in_tx> at least 12:23 knightfoo> yeah, its about 100 miles .. the closest body of water is a lake which is connected to the ocean 12:23 zooted: is now known as __zooted 12:23 Sotek> Voodoo: That said, some percentage of the mentally ill aren't "dangerous"; they probably went catatonic or near-so. but. yeah. 12:23 Knobee> "Game over man, GAME OVER!!" 12:23 gnat_x> the hospital ship has to come from baltimore, it will be another few days before it gets there 12:23 voodoo_in_tx> and then we have the factor that there are mental pressures going on that can change normal peoples' mindsets 12:23 kogyaru> gnatx: sept 8 12:23 @ Dark-Fx> hmm 12:24 voodoo_in_tx> we're seeing a classic situation which is tailor-made to create violence, etc 12:24 @ Dark-Fx> oh wow 12:24 RuralRob> Can't wait to see the HBO miniseries of all this. 12:24 @ Dark-Fx> I go to class... and everyone moves servers :P 12:24 Ksosez> anyone have a log of the scanner channel from this morning? 12:24 Textral> welcome back, Dark 12:24 knightfoo> RuralRob: look up the movie "Oil Storm" by FX 12:24 @ Dark-Fx> Thanks. 12:24 knightfoo> eerie 12:24 Doobry> cnn just getting the sniper fire story.. man, doesn't anyone there IRC?;) 12:25 Textral> Been a hell of a ride today 12:25 Neovanglist> haha 12:25 kow|wk> Hey, can I make a suggestion: if anyone wants to moralize and wax sociological about this, start a new channel for digesting it? There are two different trains of dialogue going on, and they're bumping into each other. 12:25 RuralRob> This is my first time using IRC. :-) 12:25 knightfoo> RuralRob: its a nasty habit :P 12:25 Sotek> #interdictor-analysis ? 12:25 just_something> No kidding 12:25 daniel_bergamin> welcome rob 12:25 Encapsulate> heh #interdictor-touchyfeely 12:25 Doobry> I quit using it 2 years ago as I re-discovered reality;) 12:25 Zephyrus> the real problem is there's no easy method of mass evacuation 12:25 silver_whisper> Rob: run while you still can. 12:25 knightfoo> its easier to quit smoking than to quit IRC ;) 12:25 Zephyrus> say ballpark there's 100,000 people who need evacuating still there 12:26 RuralRob> Hey I am very familiar with reality - I play WoW only 2 hours a day! 12:26 Zephyrus> helicopters can take say 15 people at a time 12:26 kow|wk> what is 'eoc' anyone? 12:26 Chimi> you guys are saying IRC isnt real life?! WTFFFF 12:26 knightfoo> RuralRob: http://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/oilstorm/main.html 12:26 Zephyrus> coaches say 50 12:26 altinos> emergency operation center? 12:26 Doobry> amen to that knightfoo: I used to dream in black and white with a horizontal blue stripe down the bottom.. (name that client;)) 12:26 knightfoo> Chimi: EverCrack isnt real life either *nod* 12:26 Prodigy_B> Kow|wk Emergency Ops Center 12:26 kow|wk> cool 12:26 kow|wk> thx guys 12:26 Chimi> knightfoo: woah, good thing i quit that back in april. 12:26 @ Soms> Zephyrus a blackhawk can handle 12,. a heuy 18 and a chinny can handle 50 12:26 knightfoo> Doobry: aieee 12:26 Zephyrus> that's about 2000 coach trips 12:26 Neovanglist> what is jock? 12:26 Doobry> nope, bitchx 12:26 altinos> JOCC - joint operations command center? 12:26 knightfoo> i was yelling, not guessing :P 12:26 @ Soms> Aye altinos 12:27 knightfoo> yeah, BX 12:27 Zephyrus> I'm talking general ballpark figures for rough calcs 12:27 crschmidt> sounds like state == pelican 12:27 Chimi* uses irssi. it has blue stripes too. 12:27 Doobry> I thought Jock was JR's daddy?;) 12:27 Eimann> ah, nice, redcross.org got akamaized. it should now be reachable from all providers with a short paths. 12:27 crschmidt> as somone said earlier 12:27 Prodigy_B> cr: yea I think someone mentioned that. 12:27 Zephyrus> 2000 coach trips, or 5-8000 helo sorties 12:27 crschmidt> apparently it's jo-cc 12:27 crschmidt> not jock 12:27 just_something> What is Pelican JOCC? 12:27 knightfoo> Doobry: freaky, i had a dream once that someone from IRC was hacking my system, and even after i unplugged my net connection they were still logged in 12:27 @ Soms> Pelican Joint Operations Control Center 12:27 @ Soms> or Command 12:28 zdiver> yeah, what soms said 12:28 Neovanglist> boxed vans? 12:28 @ Soms> depends on your branch of service 12:28 just_something> thx 12:28 Doobry> etherealnet RJ50, the next big thing man;) 12:28 knightfoo> then i woke up 12:28 Zephyrus> evacuating people to ships with the navy won't work 12:28 flask-> guys apparently it's JOCC, not "jock" 12:28 gnat_x> pelican == louisiana 12:28 just_something> thx gnat_x 12:28 servicesix> did they go offlien? 12:28 Zephyrus> so all they'll be able to do is provide serious casualty facilities and food and water 12:28 gnat_x> pelican == louisiana govt. 12:28 altinos> It's surreal to have the Dead Kennedys' "Kill The Poor" on Rhapsody while listening to the police scanner. 12:28 Zephyrus> while the real evac will have to be done by bus 12:28 knightfoo> did the navy send a hospital ship in? 12:28 knightfoo> they can air drop supplies too 12:28 gnat_x> altinos: heheh 12:28 servicesix> knightfoo: I think so. Comfort. 12:28 InsomniaCity> aaaaaah! Definition(s) Info 12:28 InsomniaCity> JOCC Joint Operations Command Center 12:28 knightfoo> i think a heard a carrier was on the way 12:28 Prodigy_B> knightfoo: It's on the way from Maryland I believe. 12:29 Zephyrus> airdrops by hercules and the like are dicey in this kind of situation 12:29 @ Soms> pelican is north NO 12:29 servicesix> knightfoo: Bataan and Iwo Jima. Helicopter carriers 12:29 @ Soms> Bulldog is south 12:29 royb> http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/doddict/acronym/j/02679.html 12:29 knightfoo> gotcha 12:29 gnat_x> Prodigy_B: no carriers in md, va beach tho 12:29 flask-> i wonder if it's the same one they sent up to WTC from baltimore after 9/11 12:29 Doobry> cnn just said a nuclear carrier.. 12:29 Zephyrus> no security on the supplies 12:29 Doobry> Are the heli carriers nuclear? 12:29 micks3a> flask-: believe it is the Comfort 12:29 Zephyrus> plus the logistical support required to support the 82nd airborne 12:29 flask-> micks3a: hospital ship 12:29 micks3a> jup 12:29 kow|wk> there are anecdotes of helicopters being shot at, so i'd figure they'd be trying to stay out of the lower air space 12:29 @ Soms> uh 12:29 royb> 82nd airborne++ 12:30 @ Soms> why the hell would we call in the 82nd airborne? 12:30 knightfoo> kow|wk: the National Guard said that wasnt true, sooo 12:30 gnat_x> flask-: baltimore rotates the hope and comfort ships for resupply so on of the two 12:30 travisd> nuke is possibly being brought in to provide power 12:30 altinos> Soms: I'm sure they'll take what they can get. 12:30 @ Soms> most of them are already in Louisana, yet at Ft Polk for NTC 12:30 Zephyrus> so it's going to be an absolutely gargantuan operation bloody quick 12:30 crschmidt> 17 trucks -- oh wait, 5. 12:30 crschmidt> that's a bit of an error, eh? 12:30 Tetraboy> harry s truman is going I think 12:30 @ Soms> preparing to deploy to iraq 12:30 flask-> gnat_x: cool. i lived in b'more during 9/11, i remember the city was so proud they got to send the ship up, and so disappointed when there weren't any survivors to need it :( 12:30 Zephyrus> the logistics are going to be mindnumbing 12:30 kow|wk> knightfoo: the mayor of louisiana directly contradicted a story that CNN just posted a corroborating interview for.. i don't trust what anyone says publically when they know i'm listening 12:30 Doobry> has the cam feed fallen over? I'm not seeing the picture change atg all.. 12:30 royb> the 82nd are some crazy motherfuckers. if they're sent in, i think things will go better. :p 12:30 kthxdie> did the other 12 trucks just dissapear? 12:30 knightfoo> kow|wk: true 12:30 InsomniaCity> what was this business about Bush asking previous presidents for help?? 12:31 gnat_x> flask-: yah i grew up there, lived in nyc for 9/11 12:31 silver_whisper> insomnia: help fundraising. 12:31 cafemusique> insomnia - for fundraising, like Bush/Clinton did for tsunami 12:31 InsomniaCity> ah, that must have passed me by over in the UK 12:32 Frungy> I understand this may be an unpopular opinion, but does anyone not trust the red cross after what they did will the billions of dollars donated for the WTC disaster 12:32 GhostFreeman> I sure as hell don't 12:32 @ Dark-Fx> So do they have real military down there yet? 12:32 GhostFreeman> I'm donating to the Salvaltion Army 12:32 Zephyrus> nobody knows is the easy answer 12:32 Tassium> Frungy: I tend to not trust ANY of the large charities 12:32 Tetraboy> CNN has doc from charity hospital. 12:32 InsomniaCity> so if Pelican JOCC is LA govt... who is Pelican base? 12:32 flask-> gnat_x: hah, i grew up in NYC, lived in baltmore for 9/11 ! 12:32 Encapsulate> Dark-Fx: Conflicting Answers, but the NG and Marines are supposedly there. 12:33 Insder> National Guard are there, haven't heard anything about military anywhere 12:33 Insder> Except the LJ 12:33 Sotek> what did the red cross do with the WTC disaster money? 12:33 knightfoo> they should airdrop snipers onto tall buildings to take care of the lawlessness :D 12:33 Insder> They were told to leave, just get rid of them all 12:33 blanket> i'd snipe 12:33 Not_Mortini> InsomniaCity: Probably dispatch. 12:33 gnat_x> we probably won't hear about the military if they are doing actual military opps and not just handing out water 12:34 Frungy> Sotek: Gave millions of dollars to the mostly already wealthy relatives of the dead 12:34 daniel_bergamin> http://www.henney.com/chm/callsign.htm PELICAN P-3C VP-45, NAS Jacksonville, FL? 12:34 Sotek> Ah. 12:34 Chimi> we seen military trucks or something on the webcam. 12:34 Insder> Yeah, I saw that, but haven't heard much else 12:34 Zephyrus> well it's going to require huge logistical support 12:34 Zephyrus> to start with people are going to need 3/4 of a gallon of water per day 12:34 kow|wk> chimi: not yet, haven't seen a damn thing on the feed. 12:34 Zephyrus> so taht's about 75000 gallons of fresh water per day 12:34 Frungy> Sotek: and preyed on the american public to get that money with an onslaught of advertising 12:34 kow|wk> Attempting to Reconnect atm 12:34 Insder> Not sure why but this whole situation reminds me of Resident Evil 2. 12:34 T7g> yeah 12:34 Chimi> kow|wk: i seen it earlier. i said SEEN, not will see. 12:34 T7g> Instead of zombies though 12:35 T7g> It's crazy people 12:35 pthree> zombies and lawlessness, most likely 12:35 kow|wk> sounded like a question 12:35 Insder> Same stuff. 12:35 pthree> same diff 12:35 Sotek> Frungy: Well, I knew about the advertising.;) 12:35 blanket> i agree insder 12:35 kow|wk> cuz several people have asked that same question so far, and i haven't seen a thing 12:35 WhatNot> remind sme of the movie 'Escape from New York' 12:35 Chimi> oh, well it wasnt a question. it was a statement 12:35 Insder> You bhave a couple of people barricaded in a city with insane people with guns. 12:35 blanket> i think it's a zombie invasion being covered up 12:35 kow|wk> my bad 12:35 Chimi> a few other people seen it to, 5 big green trucks 12:35 mojo> wow! Jack Cafferty just went OFF on the Federal Gov't handling of the disaster. 12:35 JasonBoxatWork> Insder: Reminds me of 28 Days 12:35 silver_whisper> what'd he say? 12:35 Insder> Yeah, that too 12:35 Neovanglist> what I don't get, is that when people are pushed into an instinctive state, they do whatever they need to on a second by second basis to survive 12:35 adamhill: is now known as adam_plissken 12:35 Tassium> Is there a trick to getting the scanner feed to work? Both the ones in the topic last maybe 10 seconds and stop 12:35 Padathir> Who is jack cafferty? 12:35 silver_whisper> jason, that's what I was thinking earlier. 12:35 edible> ya they've been talking shit since last night 12:35 Neovanglist> however, I can't imagine how that constitutes sniper shots 12:35 adam_plissken> :-) 12:36 blanket> hahaha 12:36 Neovanglist> that is a very cognative and concentrated thing 12:36 adam_plissken: is now known as adamhill 12:36 Neovanglist> especially when it's against people attempting to assist you 12:36 pthree> listening to feed, http://216.14.30.229:8000/ does anyone have a better/active feed? 12:36 Neovanglist> it doesn't make any sense to me 12:36 Frungy> http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner works for me 12:36 daniel_bergamin> http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 12:36 pthree> Tassium that feed works for a while 12:36 Insder> THe part I don't get is people are stealing appliances 12:36 Padathir> do /topic #interdictor-scanner 12:36 Insder> Where the hell are they gonna plug them in 12:36 Sotek> Neo: How many snipers would you estimate there are, total? 12:36 T7g> ahaha 12:36 royb> pthree: i think that's the best one. 12:36 T7g> I suppose 12:36 Neovanglist> Sotek: I have not even a remote idea 12:36 T7g> Appliances would be all thats left after 4 days 12:36 Doobry> crschmidtL Pat santos is a colonel 12:36 @ Amish_Hooker> http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Main_Page For more feeds 12:36 royb> pthree: that's the feed crschmidt is transcribing off 12:36 Neovanglist> I would guess very few 12:36 enwilson> The ones linked through Shoutcast aren't going over here, but the ods.org one reloaded 12:36 RuralRob> I think they just try to sell/trade them for other stuff. 12:36 Knobee> video feed gone? 12:36 Neovanglist> but still it's insane 12:36 @ Amish_Hooker> all are the same stream 12:37 theagent> The wiki has everything you need 12:37 mojo> He said he had lived through many disasterous, SF earthquake, and Watts riots and this is the worst handled situation as the federal government has falled flat on it's face. He said this is an embarrassement. 12:37 crschmidt> Doobry: yes 12:37 Sotek> I suspect the number is low enough to be explainable by people who are, in fact, clinically insane. 12:37 Insder> But who would trade for a useless appliance 12:37 Sotek> And, say, off of their medication ... 12:37 crschmidt> Doobry: he said "pat", not "capt" 12:37 Ksosez> anyone have a log of the scanner channel from this morning? 12:37 Insder> Maybe a water purifier. 12:37 Insder> That's probably all I'd take 12:37 Not_Mortini> Added some of the names you hear on the scanner on the wiki 12:37 gnat_x> Neovanglist: there's also possibility that the sniper(s) are well stocked opportunistic nuts 12:37 kow|wk> I suggest people use #interdictor-digest for people who want to discuss this stuff beyond the raw information flow 12:37 RuralRob> I totally agree - we must look like total bumbling idiots to the rest of the world righ tnow. 12:37 Tassium> *bonk self* Right, open it with Winamp, not my web browser. Sheesh, I'm having a stupid moment. 12:37 s2104ok> N-E 1 notice Winamp tells you which branch of service is communicating over stream 12:37 Neovanglist> gnat_x: I was playing with that idea in my head as well 12:37 kow|wk> Otherwise there's an information overflow in a channel with 200 people. 12:37 mojo> The snipers if they exist might be escaped prisoners. 12:37 Doobry> crschmidt: I know.. I thought they were wondering what his rank was.. :) 12:38 crschmidt> ah, no: it sounded like "capt" 12:38 gnat_x> i mean, if you ever wanted to shoot up the city and get away with it, this is a great chance. 12:38 knightfoo> its pretty quiet in here for 200 people 12:38 Insder> Snipers definetly aren't helping anything 12:38 crschmidt> i knew it wasn't, since i remembered him yelling at state eoc earlier :) 12:38 dtj> if i was an escaped prisoner, i wouldn't be shooting at cops. i would try very hard not to be seen 12:38 Tassium> mojo: I'd bet escaped prisoners are just trying to disappear 12:38 ICMB> The scale of this disaster is much larger than the SF earthquake, the LA earthquake, 9/11, or the Watts riots. 12:38 theagent> I'm astounded by the sheer lack of comm traffic 12:38 @ Soms> s2104ok all of it is setup and run by the guys in signal, it is all national guard radios, towers 12:38 Insder> I'd try to get out 12:38 Padathir> is there a press conference on tv somewhere? 12:38 s2104ok> I'm sure some of these asscracks think they're playing GTA 12:38 Sotek> Depends on why you were a prisoner in the first place ... 12:38 Insder> I saw on the news they arrested someone for stealing a car 12:38 dtj> also, the word "sniper" is being overused 12:38 crschmidt* attempts to restart his stream to catch up 12:38 Insder> Come on, go get the looters and let the people leave 12:39 dtj> sniper != random pissed off guy shooting at cops 12:39 blanket> i'd go to kill the looters 12:39 @ Soms> Insder know how hard that is? 12:39 knightfoo> dtj: what if he's on a tall building? 12:39 mojo> If it's even true. 12:39 Insder> I realize it's tough 12:39 Neovanglist> dtj: agreed 12:39 s2104ok> anyone here against shooting the looters and gunman? 12:39 Insder> Which is why they need more than local police and national guard 12:39 @ Soms> Nope 12:39 dtj> knightfoo, if he's got a pistol or shotgun, probably not a sniper 12:39 blanket> nope 12:39 Neovanglist> dtj: but from the ferry incident, I'm kind of at a loss 12:39 @ Soms> shoot them 12:39 crschmidt> s2104ok: depends what they're looting 12:39 kow|wk> s2104ok: #interdictor-digest 12:39 knightfoo> heh 12:39 blanket> in fact i would love to join in the destruction of the looters 12:39 Tassium> s2104ok: Just be careful that while you're shooting a looter that someone else doesn't decide you're one of those gunmen to shoot too. 12:39 knightfoo> someone cleaned out the gun section of a walmart yesterday 12:40 Insder> They were told to leave, let them get shot 12:40 JasonBoxatWork> Shots should be fired in self defense, but not offensively 12:40 Jurian> depends on what they're looting, if its food/water/medical stuff they need, then no, they dont need to be shot 12:40 crschmidt> does anyone know what the ferry was doing? 12:40 Frungy> 10 minutes ago or so there was a reporter on CNN who suddenly said "I gotta jump in the car [off phone] 'Go go go!'" did they get back to that guy? 12:40 crschmidt> all i got from the radio is that the captain is shot 12:40 kow|wk> I suggest people use #interdictor-digest for people who want to discuss this stuff beyond the raw information flow. Otherwise there's an information overflow in a channel with 200 people. 12:40 @ Soms> Insder, VAARNG, TNARNG, FLARNG have all mobilized units to help 12:40 Insder> Walmart always did have low prices 12:40 Jurian> if its luxury crap, then by all means, shoot them in their knees and elbows 12:40 edible> so you wouldn't defend someone else that was being shot at JasonBoxatWork? 12:40 s2104ok> sorry 12:40 dtj> warning shot to the head 12:40 knightfoo> hah 12:40 Insder> I would just shoot them for taking useless stuff 12:40 JasonBoxatWork> edible: You'd have to evaluate the situation 12:40 knightfoo> warning shot into their bow.. 12:40 Neovanglist> dtj: time to break out the hollowpoints :) 12:40 @ Soms> edible: shoot now, cry over it later 12:40 blanket> agreed 12:40 JamesG> Ksosez: scanner log here: http://nola.heavycomputing.ca/nola-scanner.log 12:41 Neovanglist> doesn't matter where you hit them! 12:41 Insder> I mean, they take booze and cigarettes and leave the food 12:41 Mark``> is there any food left? ;x 12:41 blanket> it's disgusting 12:41 altinos> The food might be rotten 12:41 Chimi> yeah 12:41 JasonBoxatWork> Insder: That sounds like a dumb choice of things to grab -- So you get shot in the head for that? 12:41 @ Soms> If its food, meds, clothing (Not the 40 boxes of nikes per shopping cart) 12:41 @ Soms> I wouldn't mind 12:41 Insder> I never said I'd grab that. 12:41 altinos> The hard liquor can be good for cleaning wounds and sterilizing things 12:41 @ Soms> but who the fuck needs a tv, all of NO is out of power 12:41 mojo> Who said that is what is happening? 12:41 Mark``> well at this point its every man for itself i think 12:41 niftybitch> http://www.local6.com/news/4923019/detail.html 12:41 knightfoo> Soms: sterilizing their livers 12:41 theagent> so how long till the scum lawyers start suing ? 12:41 Insder> Cigarrettes are of no use 12:41 H2020> not all of NO 12:41 Insder> I doubt they're using it for cuts 12:41 mojo> Sounds like bullshit conjecture. 12:41 Zephyrus> radio and batteries? 12:41 @ Soms> ok so most of NO 12:41 niftybitch> Man kills own sister for Ice http://www.local6.com/news/4923019/detail.html 12:42 Frungy> wow 12:42 @ Soms> radio and batteries would be cool 12:42 blanket> so sad 12:42 altinos> I'm just saying what I would steal liquor for in that situation. 12:42 RuralRob> Wow I've never had so many Mozilla tabs open before! :-) 12:42 zdiver> anyone have a web irc link up?? 12:42 Insder> It's a pretty good idea to use it for. 12:42 crschmidt> http://crschmidt.net/irc/ 12:42 Insder> But I'd got for can goods 12:42 hfx_ben> CNN reporting on gunshots / sustained fire against vehicles doing med-evac from hospital 12:42 crschmidt> cgiirc 12:42 @ Soms> I'd also allow liquor to be stolen to drown your sorrows 12:42 @ Soms> :( 12:42 Insder> Not tough to open a can with a knife, a sharp one 12:42 kampf> chatzilla 12:42 SkilletAudio> Well, my friend here in town is from Baton Rouge. The looting came into the neighborhood, so they bugged out. 12:42 blanket> :'( 12:42 @ Soms> nic sucks 12:42 Mode: #interdictor[+v nic`] by Soms 12:42 niftybitch> I reposted a link to my lj that shows a timeline of what different presidents did to prepare for hurricanes in the past compared with what Bush did 12:42 Cattywampus> With 201 users, this channel might be better off +m. 12:42 SkilletAudio> Word is now, her mother's restaurant has been blown up. 12:42 niftybitch> it's sickening 12:42 Knobee> Insder: dangerous, not hard... 12:43 roesch> niftybitch: url? 12:43 niftybitch> a link in my lj* 12:43 blanket> hmmmmmm 12:43 kampf> Cattywampus: agreed 12:43 Insder> Knobee: Didn't understand your last message 12:43 niftybitch> http://www.livejournal.com/users/niftybitch/610722.html 12:43 @ Soms> niftybitch theres nothing you can do to prepare for anything above a class 3 except what has been done 12:43 niftybitch> no. read it 12:43 JasonBoxatWork> plus mmm it is =) 12:43 @ Soms> mandatory evac, and ride it out 12:43 Knobee> Insder: it's not hard to open a can with a sharp knife, but you can hurt yourself BADLY if you fail.. 12:43 Insder> That's what the booze is for. 12:43 Knobee> hahahaha 12:43 Insder> Taking care of infection. 12:43 edible> nice to see that's from an objective viewpoint niftybitch 12:43 Neovanglist> yea 12:43 Neovanglist> everclear 12:43 Neovanglist> that'll clean the shit out 12:44 pthree> can we go +m, with just transcription from feed? 12:44 Insder> But seriously, I have a manual can opener. 12:44 Doobry> that's what the other chnanel is for 12:44 Neovanglist> pthree: that is what the -scanner channel is for 12:44 niftybitch> I didn't write it 12:44 @ Soms> Baccardi 151 and a wound just dont sit well with me 12:44 pthree> oh, thanks :) sry 12:44 SkilletAudio> transcription is in #interdictor-scanner 12:44 Insder> Actually, that's all I have. Broke my electric opener 12:44 Zephyrus> vodka on the wound, single malt on the patient 12:44 pthree> thanks, there now. 12:44 Doobry> according to the blog, directnic is off the air.. 12:44 edible> well it's just as stupid as those people comparing selected captions from different news sources to show racial prejudice 12:44 Insder> Tough to go through three channels and a load of Firefox tabs 12:44 Neovanglist> Doobry: is it updated? 12:45 Knobee> I always read the blog when the first sentence ends in "fuckhead bush" 12:45 edible> heh 12:45 niftybitch> who said anything about racial prejudice? 12:45 Insder> Not that I can see, no updates 12:45 Doobry> nope, the blog isn't hosted in the building, people can still post comments. 12:45 mojo> CNN did. Have you seen the video? 12:45 edible> just the same idea, people are looking for things to complain about 12:45 Doobry> bush pisses me off. All he's worried about it gas.. 12:45 Insder> Gas is going to be an issue 12:45 muypill> A very big issue 12:45 Insder> Shouldn't be top issue 12:46 Insder> But it's a big problem 12:46 Doobry> sure but so are thousands of bodies floating around NO.. Why isn't he addressing that? 12:46 niftybitch> yea but it's fact that he was out wandering the country doing various things up until days AFTER the hurricane hit 12:46 kow|wk> I suggest people use #interdictor-digest for discussion of this stuff beyond the raw information flow. Otherwise there's an information overflow in a channel with 200 people. 12:46 niftybitch> that pisses me off 12:46 tolkachi> 10% of the oil refineries are in that gulf area 12:46 Insder> Well, what the hell can he do about dead bodies 12:46 Insder> The looting needs to be stopped 12:46 theagent> Gasoline is a HUGE problem... its called generators 12:46 Insder> Then dead bodies can be collected 12:46 s2104ok> #interdictor-digest 12:46 tolkachi> that can cause a serious economic repression, and KILL people 12:46 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest 12:46 tolkachi> many people live day to day 12:46 SkilletAudio> What exactly should he be doing? Its a military problem. The military is on its way. There is nobody to pick up dead bodies, they are trying to keep the living ones alive. 12:46 blanket> this is so bad 12:46 blanket> :( 12:47 Insder> Lot less people in -digest than here 12:47 Frungy> Re: Racism: http://img284.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thatsracist3xe.gif 12:47 Insder> Lot less conversation 12:47 kow|wk> then join it 12:47 Graylight> Yay! Go freenode! 12:47 kow|wk> and start the conversation 12:47 kow|wk> there are people talking right now 12:47 enwilson> ah, that worked well... 12:47 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest THANK YOU 12:47 Insder> Eh, yes, it's perked up. 12:47 Tassium> Seems to me -digest SHOULD have less conversation by definition.. A digest is just for a summary, isn't it? 12:47 enwilson> I think I've found a side-door in through the web... 12:47 @ SCSi^> i prefer the backdoor 12:47 edible> yeah Frungy, but they don't show the circumstances or the 6 other websites that have the black guy listed as simply "carrying groceries" 12:47 @ SCSi^> kow's backdoor! 12:47 @ SCSi^> heh 12:47 Doobry> Tassium: :P 12:47 kow|wk> ;'[ my backdoor 12:48 Knobee> anyone know how to make a wiki understand a new protocol for a [ link ]? 12:48 Sotek> Tassium: It's for digestion. :P 12:48 Knobee> needs to be -discuss 12:48 @ DR|> picture mirror up: http://nolapics.stfunoob.com 12:48 Cattywampus> A better name for the alternate channel would be #Interdictor-Discuss. 12:48 Chimi> Knobee: i'd modify the code :P 12:48 Tassium> Thank you DR 12:48 BlaBlaBlubb> any news? 12:48 crschmidt> Does anyone know what the ferry on which the captain was shot was doing? 12:48 Knobee> Chimi: yeah, on wiki.nola-intel.com ? 8-) 12:48 Knobee> can't get it to take the peercast: link as a link 12:48 Doobry> Probably trying to cast off before it sank under the weight.. 12:49 Chimi> Knobee: im guessing if you cant figure it out, you need to edit the code for the wiki 12:49 crschmidt> Doobry: there were guardsmen on board 12:49 Encapsulate> crschmidt: Hopefully it wasn't one of the Levee barges that are waiting for bridges to be raised 12:49 crschmidt> Encapsulate: the radio transmission was garbled when they said waht it was doing :/ 12:49 BlaBlaBlubb> who was shot? 12:49 theagent> a ferry boat captain 12:49 Dean_C> killed? 12:50 Insder> Don't think so. 12:50 Dean_C> The press out here are so slow, nothing has been reported on tha tyet 12:50 theagent> they were calling for medvac 12:50 Doobry> Dunno, it was the pilot, not the captain.. UNless they are the same.. ? 12:50 s2104ok> communication about ferry boat captain being shot came over about 10 minutes ago 12:50 Dean_C> It's as if there is a media screen 12:50 theagent> sorry pilot/captain.... 12:50 BlaBlaBlubb> it's impossible, these stupid trigger-happy bastards can't shoot their own rescuers, how dumb can a man be? 12:50 BlaBlaBlubb> or better: how paranoid? 12:50 crschmidt> er, yeah. they said shot, not killed 12:50 s2104ok> commander on other end said the channel was not for criminal activity 12:50 Dean_C> Desperate people do stupid things 12:50 knightfoo> stupid, or desperate.. 12:50 Tassium> s/Desperate people/People 12:50 BlaBlaBlubb> or both 12:51 JamesG> niftybitch: Quote from Bush.. "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees" <- Well, actually, they did, dumbo. 12:51 Knobee> I want access to the criminal channel. 12:51 Encapsulate> s2104ok: Yea... unfortunatlly there isn't any comms for criminal activity 12:51 kow|wk> Just a friendly reminder: #interdictor-digest if you'd like to discuss events beyond the raw information flow. It's tempting, but it can clog up this (packed) channel. There is discussion there now, so hop on over. 12:51 s2104ok> how crazy is that? 12:51 SkilletAudio> Hah. Anybody remember when the hurricane drifted, and the next day people were like "WEll! The worst is over!" 12:51 Mode: #interdictor[+v kow|wk] by Soms 12:51 Sotek> yeah. heh. :/ 12:51 @ SCSi^> i need to buy more ammo 12:51 crschmidt> anyone know what "Alternate JOCC is"? 12:51 @ SCSi^> and stock up on supplies 12:51 @ SCSi^> :) 12:51 s2104ok> shouldn't any police org be able to be self sufficient for at least a week? 12:52 Knobee> SkilletAudio -- yeah, right before they figured out what that levee thing was all about. 12:52 gnat_x> what it sounds like. 12:52 JamesG> kow|wk: There is no information flow in here. It's all discussion. So.. what's the point? 12:52 Insder> You know, the funny thing on gas prices is it shouldn't be spiking this high. It was like a late gas spike 12:52 eriktown> Not if it's under water... 12:52 Insder> Should've happened yesterday or before 12:52 Mode: #interdictor[+o Sotek] by Soms 12:52 @ SCSi^> s2104ok. not when the offices are under water and mass rioting is going on 12:52 @ Soms> SCSi^ where are ya? 12:52 Knobee> Joint Operations Command Center -- DOH 12:52 @ SCSi^> california 12:52 @ SCSi^> :) 12:52 + kow|wk> JamesG: It's when people start discussing Bush and his policy choices, etc., things that can take on a life of their own. 12:52 Encapsulate> s2104ok: Yea, but this was pretty overwhelming. 12:52 BlaBlaBlubb> look, here in good ol' europe, gas is at 1.45 euro / liter 12:52 crschmidt> Knobee: not the JOCC part 12:52 @ Sotek> Gas spikes are ... nasty. 12:52 Knobee> I was thinking Jock and never thought of JOCC. *DOH* 12:52 JamesG> kow|wk: Welcome to IRC. Deal with it. 12:52 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest THANK YOU 12:52 Insder> Yeah, I know. 12:52 eriktown> interdictor's cop guest said the precinct was submerged... 12:52 Knobee* slaps himself in the head. 12:52 Insder> A family member out in Portugal said gas is 1.55 a liter 12:52 @ Sotek> cr: I would assume that alternate JOCC would be the backup location. 12:52 crschmidt> Knobee: was wondering what 'alternate' is 12:52 BlaBlaBlubb> that's 5,37euro / gallon 12:52 Knobee> secondary 12:53 Insder> Well the gas station down the street is 3.43 I believe 12:53 crschmidt> Sotek: alternate to what? 12:53 Not_Mortini> primary? :) 12:53 s2104ok> yeah but especially in n.o, where popular science and bill moyers, and scientists for 50+ years have said this was a possibility 12:53 Knobee> in the case the first center goes down/taken over, etc. 12:53 Doobry> gas in the UK is about to his £1 a litre, which is about $1.7 I think? 12:53 boolean> what is needed to view the feed ( mms:// ... ) ? 12:53 Not_Mortini> i'm wondering if it's dispatch related 12:53 @ Sotek> Pelican? :P 12:53 JamesG> Gas prices in Europe are always much higher than the US. In England we've been paying the equivalent of about $6/gallon for a long time. 12:53 BlaBlaBlubb> 1.50euro so yeah 12:53 Insder> Except the one at the other end of the street is 3.20, not sure where the 23 cent different comes in 12:53 Cattywampus> boolean: WinAmp, Windows Media Player, or the equivalent on your O.S. 12:53 pthree> boolean videolan.org or windows media player 12:53 Insder> When I was there before, gasoline was 1.23 a liter 12:53 kthxdie> a lot of it is taxes 12:53 Insder> So this is a big spike 12:53 pthree> videolan VLC should have something for whatever os you're using 12:53 Knobee> We know that Pelican 1 is the Mayor... Pelican JOCC would be the Primary NO ops center. 12:54 Doobry> sadly about $5.20 of that goes straight to the UK Government in Fuel Duty.. 12:54 BlaBlaBlubb> that would be 6.56$/gallon 12:54 kthxdie> i just paid 2.87 12:54 Insder> Wonder how diesel is doing 12:54 kthxdie> in california 12:54 s2104ok> correct me if im wrong, but n.o police had very limited fuel for their generators 12:54 kampf> the peercast feed requires the peercast software, but should work in all players within windows 12:54 Insder> How so low? 12:54 Tassium> There is a Winamp peercast plugin 12:54 Insder> Lowest I've found around here is on a highway, 2.80 yesterday 12:54 pthree> i just paid 2.81 in the northbay (california) for 87 octane 12:54 BlaBlaBlubb> britain is really expensive 12:54 Insder> They got swamped, all their pumps were out of pressure as they were all used at the same time. 12:54 pthree> 91 octane was 3.11 yesterday 12:54 kthxdie> 287 in southbay 12:54 Insder> Ran out of gas in the tanks early this morning 12:54 kthxdie> for 87 octane 12:54 boolean> Cattywampus: tis video based, correct ? 12:54 Knobee> the NOLA scanner on peercast is now the #2 peercasted audio in the world. 12:55 Cattywampus> boolean, yeah. 12:55 Insder> I'm out in MA, our gas prices are well past 3 dollars in mid-price towns 12:55 RuralRob> Diesel in CA seems to be holding rather steady, while gas is going up 12:55 enwilson> We've hit $3 in the NC Triad, and looks like there's no turning back 12:55 Doobry> 95 is the lowest octane for sale in the UK.. 98 is the highest.. 12:55 Knobee> enwilson: I'm in Raleigh. 12:55 Tassium> enwilson: We're at $2.999 in Roanoke, VA. 12:55 boolean> Cattywampus: any other re-broadcasting of that link > 12:55 kampf> octane rating is different in the US 12:55 enwilson> Lines at the pumps, too...Welcome back to 1975, I guess 12:55 kthxdie> ah, our horrible california octane 12:55 pthree> 95 is the lowest? good lord, your vehicles must run like champs 12:55 corsa> 87 octane is $3.19 in Lincoln, Nebraska 12:55 pthree> though, you are paying for it 12:55 kampf> google it 12:55 Cattywampus> boolean, not that I know of. 12:55 edobbs> $2.99 regular in Winchester, VA 12:55 Knobee> Officials with the Office of the Governor tell WRAL that there is NO TRUTH to rumors circulating that gas stations across the state will close on Thursday. 12:55 Knobee> hahaha... 12:55 Knobee> *DOH* 12:55 Reisha> Were at 3.10 lowest in Kansas City metro 12:55 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest for chatting THANK YOU 12:55 BlaBlaBlubb> lol 12:56 Insder> My brother just filled his tank, 3.04 Regular 12:56 Knobee> er.. that's today... 12:56 niftybitch> I just did with $2.98 12:56 BlaBlaBlubb> wtf? the scanner stopped 12:56 @ Soms> $2.65 Mid-grade 12:56 s2104ok> Overall, it seems there was no plan, from the first mass evacuations to shelter issue, and now back to the evacuations 12:56 BlaBlaBlubb> kk 12:56 SkilletAudio> turn it back on 12:56 @ agentace> scanner is still going 12:56 BlaBlaBlubb> back up again 12:56 Insder> Jesus, the highest our gas goes is 93 octane I think 12:56 BlaBlaBlubb> just connection drop here in germany 12:56 Knobee> http://www.wral.com/video/4925184/detail.html 12:56 eriktown> kampf, why not have the ops -v anyone who isn't giving updates 12:56 Tetraboy> Last I heard in NW GA gas was over $3 12:56 @ agentace> Insder: one can buy 100 octane at most 76 stations 12:56 kampf> i can't speak for them 12:56 JamesG> Erm 12:57 kampf> because i'm not one of them 12:57 SkilletAudio> chicagoland gas is 3.30-3.40 12:57 JamesG> Gas is ~$2.60 around Seattle 12:57 @ Dark-Fx> gas up here is $3.39 for Regular. 12:57 @ Sotek> Nobody is v here. it's not moderated. 12:57 Tassium> I don't even want to drive my car through a station that has 100 octane.. It'll start to get greedy and want it. 12:57 @ agentace> $3.29 in podunk SC 12:57 kthxdie> Seattle needs to share their cheap gas 12:57 Insder> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4d/Oilgouge2.jpg/150px-Oilgouge2.jpg 12:57 Doobry> kampf, got a link to evidence that? US octane is considerably lower than Europe no matter how the conversion is... 12:57 Insder> SOmeone told me that was Atlanta 12:57 JamesG> Seattle gas all comes from Alaska, so it shouldn't be too effected. 12:57 @ Soms> I think regular is $2.52 here 12:58 @ Soms> I never use 87 though, atleast 89 12:58 Tetraboy> Major gouging was going on in Atlanta area. 12:58 Tetraboy> $5-6 all over. 12:58 kthxdie> wow 12:58 mdxi> iwent out an hour ago and got gas -- i work across the street from gatech in atlanta. i paid $3.18, all pumps had gas, and there were unused pumps 12:58 pthree> my girl just heard coffee prices will be going up too 12:58 pthree> because it's stored int eh gulf states 12:58 Knobee> needs to change scan groups on the scanner -- too much quiet. 8-) 12:58 telmnstr> Here around Norfolk VA the lows are 2.60 and highs are $3.25/gal 87 ... quite a range. 12:58 mdxi> i hear things are stupider in the suburbs due to idiots freaking out 12:58 @ Dark-Fx> Doobry: Europe computes the Octane level differently. 12:59 kogyaru> pthree: likely not by much. NOLA was 1/6 of the country's supply. 12:59 eriktown> jamesg, don't you believe it, some of the indipendent stations like spirit shot up to $3.55/gallon... it's only the major chains who are able to buy in volume that are keeping their prices seminormal 12:59 RuralRob> ACK! gas is one thing, but higher COFFEE PRICES?? now I'm pissed! 12:59 Tetraboy> My reports were last night near stone mountain and kennesaw it was $5-6. 12:59 knightfoo> as if starbucks wasnt expensive enough now 12:59 pthree> kog: phew 12:59 BlaBlaBlubb> coffee is more important than gas 12:59 mh7519> went out last night for gas in Baltimore and the 7-11 HAD NONE 12:59 pthree> kogyaru i can ride a bike the 15miles to work, but no coffee? what's the point of waking up? 12:59 Neovanglist> RuralRob: fuel is fuel :)( 12:59 Neovanglist> err 12:59 Neovanglist> :) 12:59 @ Soms> heh telmnstr, I buy my gas on post and make it a point to 12:59 Insder> Don't tr 12:59 Insder> drink coffee. 12:59 kthxdie> coffee powered vehicles 12:59 royb> i have irc logs going up on my web server now 12:59 Insder> By that, I mean I don't. 12:59 royb> if anyone wants the address, let me know 13:00 royb> going to make them update every minute. 13:00 Insder> They can power vehicles on used vegetable oil. 13:00 pthree> did anyone get a tarball of the pics? 13:00 pthree> any mirrors up? 13:00 Neovanglist> Diesel engines can run on almost anything :P 13:00 Insder> SOmeone was supposed to torrent the pics 13:00 Insder> Never happened 13:00 Tetraboy> The GA gov says they will be prosicutng any gougers. 13:00 Tassium> pthree: I'm looking at http://nolapics.stfunoob.com/ 13:00 Neovanglist> (Not healthy, but it will work) 13:00 Tassium> Dunno if it's still up though 13:00 enwilson> The current mirrors are up on www.nola-intel.com 13:00 Insder> The blog been on any major news stations yet? 13:00 enwilson> front page 13:00 Tetraboy> Blog was on CNN yesterday. 13:00 Padathir> i was wgetting the pics but stopped due to them running out of connections 13:01 telmnstr> The blog has the only real info 13:01 telmnstr> Do they still have connectivity? 13:01 Encapsulate> When the diesel engine was unveiled at the 1900 world's fair it ran on Peanut oil. 13:01 pthree> Tassium cool, that's what i was looking for 13:01 Padathir> last I saw just one line. I didn't want to add useless load 13:01 Insder> Haven't seen the blog on any MA stations 13:01 @ agentace> massholes don't care :/ 13:01 pthree> pad: yeah 13:02 @ agentace> j/k 13:02 Knobee> b52? Calling in a airstrike. 8-) 13:02 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest for chatting THANK YOU 13:02 Insder> Nope.\, not at all. 13:02 Insder> If I wasn't so lazy, I'd link all the stations to it on their sites, must have a tip form 13:02 JimmyWalker> Ok back room. 13:02 + kow|wk> people loaded into an ice cream truck? 13:02 Neovanglist> ICE CREAM! 13:02 Ksosez> whats the interdictor log? 13:02 douglas_carmich> is pink here? 13:02 Knobee> bodies. cooler truck. 13:02 ropeguru_work> Gotta stay cool somehow.. lol 13:02 JamesG> Everyone loves ice cream 13:02 Insder> Ice Cream truck, genius! 13:02 Ksosez> weblog? 13:03 BlaBlaBlubb> yeah 13:03 + kow|wk> Knobee: wow 13:03 Insder> You know, I just realized you can run small appliances using an AC to DC converter that converts the home plug to car plug 13:03 JamesG> The feed is being transcribed in #interdictor-scanner 13:03 Insder> Of course, making toast will make everything better 13:03 Knobee> Insder: if you have gasoline. 13:03 Tassium> Insder: Better make that a REALLY small appliance 13:03 boolean> ok ... anyone have the interdictor vid feed ? 13:03 kthxdie> are they chasing the ice cream truck? 13:03 ropeguru_work> What is the deal with the truck they are trying to stop?? 13:03 ICMB> People should check out snopes.com for info on rumors about gas/food supplies. http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/katrina.asp 13:03 Neovanglist> okay, money on this? 13:03 ropeguru_work> Sounds like it 13:03 Encapsulate> T-P is reporting the president will be in NOLA on Friday. 13:03 kampf> also, any device running on a universal motor will run on DC, even if it normally runs on AC 13:03 Neovanglist> will he blow through the checkpoint? 13:03 Ksosez> whats the interdictor weblog? 13:03 crschmidt> where the fuck is he going to go? 13:03 crschmidt> http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ 13:03 Tassium> Ksosez: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor 13:03 Ksosez> fuck the president 13:03 Insder> Knobee: Nope. Some cars run it right off the battery, mine does. I've sat out in the middle of nowhere charging my phone without gas 13:04 pthree> livejournal.com/users/interdictor 13:04 Knobee> Encapsulate: tomorrow Friday, or next year Friday? 13:04 tolkachi> the people have screamed, screamed for ice cream? 13:04 ropeguru_work> Maybe the ice cream truck is full of weapons 13:04 Doobry> Nobody has mentioned rapes yet on the TV have they?? You think they'd be all over that.. 13:04 Alex_NYC> maybe he will land in a flight suit 13:04 Insder> Toaster might run, maybe a blender 13:04 Doobry> They aren't stopping 13:04 boolean> have the rapes been confirmed ? 13:04 Knobee> Insder: ah, yes... 13:04 pthree> Doobry was that true or rumor? 13:04 SauronTGM> Doobry they mentioned it a bit 13:04 Knobee> Insder: until you run the battery down.. 8-) 13:04 Ksosez> will he unfuril a banner that says mission accomplished? 13:04 Insder> Though as I said, still a stupid idea. 13:04 @ Sotek> I think media is terrified of reporting anything that's not confirmed ... 13:04 pthree> Doobry 100f degrees, who's got the energy? 13:04 enwilson> I'm sure Fox has mentioned the rapes...they've been all over the more lurid stuff 13:04 eriktown> doobry, i suspect it's because no one survived the experience to report it. 13:04 Knobee> Ksosez: take the politics elsewhere. 13:04 Lazerdye> Gas prices are rising in Europe. 13:04 crschmidt> btw, b52 is probably state trooper troop b num52 13:04 Insder> Knobee: When in rome, be like the looters and steal one from a car. I saw some guy taking tires on the pictures from interdictor 13:04 theagent> wait till the sun goes down... it's gonna get SICK! 13:05 crschmidt> don't know how they pick the names 13:05 crschmidt> but troop b has been out and about doing stuff 13:05 kthxdie> ice cream truck blows through the I-10 310 split 13:05 Knobee> Insder: yeah, that was pretty sad. 13:05 Zantolak> an ice cream truck? 13:05 crschmidt> yep 13:05 BlaBlaBlubb> yeah 13:05 crschmidt> with people in it 13:05 Prodigy_B> Where would they go? 13:05 Zantolak> wow 13:05 pthree> the temperature should be cooler 13:05 Knobee> crschmidt: on the scanner? It's from the 800Mhz talk groups. 13:05 enwilson> They could probably use some Otter Pops in that neighborhood right now 13:05 skep> ... 13:05 Insder> They can at least stay cool. 13:05 Lazerdye> Gas is now over the equivilent of $5/gallen, it was around $4 yesterday. 13:05 Lazerdye> (in Europe) 13:05 Knobee> "PeoplePops" 13:05 crschmidt> Knobee: hm? 13:05 crschmidt> Knobee: I was saying, "I don't know where the 52 comes from" 13:06 crschmidt> the b, pelican, defender, etc. I get 13:06 enwilson> Looks like the picture site is back 13:06 Doobry> I'm surprised that truck didn't get shot up.. 13:06 Insder> Just saw on TV that caskets are now floating all around as the cemetaries are flooded 13:06 Insder> That's very sad. 13:06 theagent> called a code 4? 13:06 Knobee> crschmidt oh.. nevermind. *too many conversations going on* 13:06 kthxdie> code 4? 13:06 Tassium> Does anyone have a reference to the 10-codes that they use in that department? 13:06 knightfoo> all of those above ground cemeteries .. ick 13:06 BrianAtDynDNS> http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm 13:06 @ agentace> Tassium: wikipedia or google police codes 13:06 BlaBlaBlubb> awful 13:06 Prodigy_B> Insder: They "bury" people above ground there. It's going to be real creepy, ne? 13:06 Doobry> code 4 is arrested isn't it? 13:06 daniel_bergamin> I think 10-4 is different then code 4 13:06 WhatNot> all 10 codes are the same 13:06 Tassium> Thanks kindly 13:06 Tassium> WhatNot: Not true, there's no standard 10 codes 13:07 Knobee> BrianAtDynDNS: but that does not really match... 10-19 means call repair man or something (from the web), but that's not what they used. 13:07 phoo> i heard code 4 13:07 Doobry> "No further assistance required" 13:07 skep> Code 4 : homicide... 13:07 skep> right? 13:07 crschmidt> severe violence :/ 13:07 JamesG> It'll be hard to identify who died in the flooding and who floated out of a crypt. 13:07 theagent> sounds like people in the background 13:07 SauronTGM> whats code 4? 13:07 BlaBlaBlubb> yeah 13:07 kogyaru> wtf 13:07 Insder> Very. 13:07 RuralRob> homicide 13:07 @ agentace> someone asked that question on here last night and found the stuff on wikipedia 13:07 skep> http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm 13:07 BlaBlaBlubb> maybe the angry mob 13:07 skep> codes 13:07 @ agentace> so I'm sure you'll be able to find it 13:07 solcita> Guys. Code 4 means "OK" most places. 13:07 Graylight> Code 4 No Assistance Needed 13:07 seva> 10-4 Message Received 13:07 Insder> Well, won't be long before looters start taking caskets as boats. 13:07 Knobee> Going Code 4 means dinner here (I believe) 13:07 crschmidt> solcita: this was "we have a code 4 severe violence" 13:07 Insder> That'll be the day that the whole NE area loses their dignity 13:07 @ agentace> Insder: that's just messed up man :p 13:07 Doobry> http://www.cobras.org/police.htm 13:08 Knobee> Severely violent dinner. So? 8-) 13:08 JamesG> Loses? I think it's too late for that 13:08 BlaBlaBlubb> what would that be? 13:08 crschmidt> (2 seperate radio messages) 13:08 pthree> so this is what it's going to be like when the revolutoin happens 13:08 + kow|wk> anyone know what code 4 entails? or is that what i missed? 13:08 @ agentace> pthree: what revolution? 13:08 pthree> i keep joking with my girl "i'm getting this for the revolution" etc 13:08 crschmidt> kow|wk: not for sure, no 13:08 solcita> chris: hm. 13:08 JamesG> The Nintendo revloution? 13:08 Knobee> pthree: is this not the start of the revolution? 8-) 13:08 pthree> but damn, this is hairy 13:08 BlaBlaBlubb> the redneck revolution? 13:08 crschmidt> solcita: and with lots of shouting in the background 13:08 BlaBlaBlubb> yeah 13:08 pthree> Knobee it might just be 13:08 BlaBlaBlubb> like a mob 13:08 Insder> Looks like some type of incident 13:08 Prodigy_B> the Lancer (r)evolution? 13:08 pthree> john titor! 13:08 crschmidt> but then they said "we have a code, we just need a supervisor out here" 13:08 solcita> Yeah, but you can still be code 4 with lots of people yelling in the background. 13:09 JamesG> heh, titor 13:09 crschmidt* nods 13:09 JamesG> He was a fraud 13:09 Knobee> "we are always just 3 days from revolution" 13:09 crschmidt* doesn't know what happened, just that he said "code 4" followed by "severe violence" 13:09 crschmidt> everything else was gibberish 13:09 pthree> Knobee who is that? 13:09 solcita> Code 4 is nearly universal. I don't know why any agency would use Code 4 as "homicide", that's just crazy. 13:09 solcita* doesn't understand. *shrug* 13:09 + kow|wk> btw, #interdictor-digest for any and all tangential discussion; there's dialogue going on now, feel free to hop in. (helps cut down on *some* of the excess noise here, though there's an admittedly thin line for "excess") 13:09 Knobee> we have a code, I need a supervisor out here. 13:09 @ Teriander> whats the link for the feed again? the one im using is very quiet 13:09 ICMB> 5-9 would refer to a need for EMS, I think 13:09 JamesG> It's silent right now 13:09 JamesG> The feed, that is 13:09 Knobee> the feed is quiet... 13:09 @ agentace> I'm listening to http://216.22.26.45:8002/listen.pls 13:09 Encapsulate> Isn't a "Code" usually a body? 13:09 Doobry> http://www.cobras.org/police.htm tells you all about the 10 codes too 13:09 Knobee> since the "Special Forces" thing 13:10 BrianAtDynDNS* picks nite: Signal 4 = Homicide. Code 4 = No assistence necessary. 13:10 skep> ah 13:10 Tassium> The feed I'm on is http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3, and it's working great. 13:10 seva> i've been using http://216.14.30.229:8000/ 13:10 Knobee> peercast://pls/007D48952E4E7D0992252C52EAE7C1CF?tip=192.153.154.157:7144 13:10 Doobry> ER speak. A code is someone he needs rescuscitation orhowever you spell it. 13:10 solcita> Encapsulate: not in my agencies 13:10 seva> are all these feeds the same? 13:10 kampf> :# kow|wk 13:10 kampf> :) 13:10 solcita> Doobry: 10 codes differ from agency to agency. We can't be sure those are applicable to what we're listening to. 13:10 Knobee> seva -- yes. 13:10 crschmidt> what the fuck? 13:10 crschmidt> the driver gets a "deal number"? 13:11 crschmidt* is trying to figure out if he heard that right 13:11 mitchell> DL number 13:11 Knobee> there is one main feed and the rest are reflectors. 13:11 crschmidt> ah 13:11 mitchell> drivers license 13:11 crschmidt> makes more sense now 13:11 royb> which is the main feed? 13:11 BrianAtDynDNS> Sounded like he said: "Driver has a dealer number" as in car dealership plates. 13:11 Knobee> royb: the main feed is full. 13:11 Doobry> I disagree, 10-2 - [BOTH] You are being received ok 13:11 Encapsulate> Dealer Plates in NOLA Right now == Stolen Car? 13:11 pthree> heh i suppose so 13:11 BrianAtDynDNS> On an iced cream truck? 13:11 Knobee> person driving car in NOLA right now == carjacker 13:11 skep> lol 13:11 crschmidt> heh, heh 13:12 dr0h> pretty much all cars are stolen right now =/ 13:12 fet: is now known as fxt 13:12 pthree> ice cream truck ... of the revolution! 13:12 BrianAtDynDNS> When was the last time you saw a car dealer driving an iced cream truck!?? 13:12 solcita> Doobry: the way the 10 codes were supposed to work is that the first 35 or so were supposed to be a national standard, the next 35 were state-standard and the last 30 were agency-specific. 13:12 crschmidt> I totally want to be an ice cream truck thief 13:12 solcita> It doesn't work that way, though. 13:12 daniel_bergamin> from the sounds of it police are using stolen cars too 13:12 enwilson> Interview with Bush the Elder and Clinton on CNN 13:12 pthree> crschmidt you may have your day yet 13:12 Tassium> BrianAtDynDNS: Well, even ice cream trucks need dealers! 13:12 mitchell> daniel_bergamini: not stolen, comendered 13:12 ropeguru_work> I can just hear Eddie Murphy now... ICE CREAM!!! 13:12 gnat_x> wow. npr doing a really great interview of head of homeland security 13:12 mitchell> ya know cause the whole emergency thing 13:12 daniel_bergamin> oh yeah - commendeered 13:12 pthree> yeah i read the cops were taking suvs, totally understandable 13:12 Encapsulate> I'm not sure whether to picture a Schwan's truck, or a Ice Cream Van. 13:12 dtj> only thing better than joy riding in an ice cream truck would be to steal an oscar meyer wienermobile 13:13 dr0h> wienermobile vs the looters 13:13 pthree> next on fox 13:13 RuralRob> Wienermobile would probably float too! 13:13 hfx_ben> Folk are getting real tired ... losing focus. 13:13 dtj> now theres a visual 13:13 knightfoo> the WienerMobile is very aerodynamic :) 13:13 Prodigy_B> Hydrodynamic? 13:14 knightfoo> maybe that too 13:14 dtj> the news people would all go take naps, thinking that they were hallucinating 13:14 knightfoo> i've only seen them put it in a wind tunnel 13:14 Doobry> i just can't believe these cops can remember all the codes.. 13:14 BlaBlaBlubb> 4training 13:14 pthree> what was he asking ? is what over? 13:14 dr0h> it's like phone numbers... 13:14 dtj> Doobry, they study them over donuts 13:14 Knobee> you only use about 10 of 'em. 13:14 Tassium> Doobry: Do you know a programming language? 13:14 @ Sotek> snrk. 13:14 Insder> Doobry: You remember commands for IRC 13:14 @ agentace> and the camera moves! 13:14 Insder> And they remember codes 13:14 hfx_ben> I remember one time our comm center got snowed in ... 18 hours on duty ... I was having waking dreams. 13:14 knightfoo> anyone remember the IRC OP codes? heh 13:14 solcita> Doobry: It's easy once you start using them every day. 13:14 Prodigy_B> People have been memorizing Morse code for ages. 13:14 knightfoo> just like learning another language 13:15 Knobee* is a vollie firefighter -- we use some of 'em. Don't need to memorize all of them. 13:15 gnat_x> npr just said 10 year old girl raped at convention center 13:15 hfx_ben> <=== 40WPM CW once upon a time 13:15 Prodigy_B> agh... 13:15 @ agentace> gnat_x: awful... :/ 13:15 pthree> gnat_x jesus 13:15 solcita> gods 13:15 Knobee> convention center == cesspool 13:15 skep> :( 13:15 BlaBlaBlubb> damn rednecks 13:15 crschmidt> convention center seems like it's just totally fucked 13:15 crschmidt> no authority, no nothing there 13:15 Knobee> BlaBlaBlubb ??! 13:15 Not_Mortini> you start to memorize the codes after just listening to scanners, say, 1 hr a night, 2-3 times a week, after 2-3 weeks 13:15 Elerium> rednecks? 13:15 Insder> Just tuned back into the camera 13:15 Prodigy_B> Don't people have better things to thing about? 13:15 dtj> probably smells bad too 13:15 Doobry> imagine you got it wrong though and called in a 996 instead of a 926;) 13:15 Doobry> That's the kind of dumbass thing I'd do 13:15 BlaBlaBlubb> their damn mobile homes got swept away so they are a) stealing cars b) raping kids, how sick is this 13:15 pthree> BlaBlaBlubb i dont think it's just rednecks 13:16 just_something> So is interdictor offline? 13:16 skep> whats npr? 13:16 Tassium> Remind me, what is OEP? 13:16 BlaBlaBlubb> and perverts and paranoids and trigger happy bastards 13:16 JimmyWalker> what is the camara mirror URL? 13:16 Insder> It's everybody 13:16 T7g> national public radio 13:16 Tassium> skep: National Public Radio 13:16 skep> ah..thx 13:16 Knobee> BlaBlaBlubb take your "racist" thought elsewhere. 13:16 Insder> They're all going crazy 13:16 Prodigy_B> Skep: National Public Radio 13:16 Encapsulate> just_something: No. 13:16 JimmyWalker> NPR= National Public Radio 13:16 pthree> BlaBlaBlubb the projects got flushed out too 13:16 skep> ok..got it ;) 13:16 Burke> link to cam? 13:16 just_something> Whew 13:16 Encapsulate> just_something: They have diverse data paths. 13:16 douglas_carmich> tassium>Office of Emergency Preparedness 13:16 Mode: #interdictor[-v BlaBlaBlubb] by Amish_Hooker 13:16 kogyaru> interdictor is offline? 13:16 Encapsulate> just_something: THey've just lost a couple. 13:16 Tassium> douglas_carmicha: Thanks kindly 13:16 eriktown> anyone know what software in OSX could read the feed? 13:16 kogyaru> (livejournal != interdictor location) 13:16 mitchell> eriktown: wmp 13:16 pthree> erik: the audio feed? 13:16 Knobee> eriktown video or audio? 13:16 eriktown> video 13:16 pthree> eriktown itunes can 13:16 JimmyWalker> what is the camara mirror URL? 13:17 JimmyWalker> Vidoe feed mirror? 13:17 Insder> One feed mirror just died on me 13:17 Elerium> I can ping www.directnic.com... 13:17 Doobry> no point, if the main site is down, the mirror won't be getting anything 13:17 Insder> Check the LJ 13:17 pthree> eriktown video = videolan.org get vlc for osx 13:17 Encapsulate> http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 13:17 BlaBlaBlubb> that is no proof 13:17 royb> any idea how many people are listening to the audio? 13:17 BlaBlaBlubb> directnic.com can be routed anywhere 13:17 @ Amish_Hooker> over 2000 13:17 crschmidt> royb: there's more than a dozen mirrors 13:17 fxt> stream was at like 800 earlier on one channel 13:17 PotatoeMasher> there's a peercast for mac isn't there 13:17 crschmidt> so probably hard to get any direct numbers 13:17 hfx_ben> "thousands and thousand of people gathered around the convention center ... people are dieing at the convention center" 13:17 BlaBlaBlubb> they don't just have that one datacenter 13:17 Elerium> yeah no shit blahblah 13:17 ice> ghtfoo> the WienerMobile is very aerodynamic :) 13:17 N`Grath> elerium: i cant even resolve them from AS224 13:17 mplex> how many ISPs did they have? 13:17 theagent> yes peercast for mac... but needs restart after installation 13:18 Insder> hfx_ben: Where are you getting that from? 13:18 geekboi> eriktown: Try Video Lan Client. www.videolan.org 13:18 JimmyWalker> they had 4 OC3 connections 13:18 JimmyWalker> 3 died this morning 13:18 hfx_ben> CNN headline news coverage ... looks like live 13:18 JimmyWalker> last one was being flooded with data and they were chokeing a bit,. 13:18 eriktown> thanks 13:18 Knobee> hfx_ben -- seemingly someone said that there was going to be evac from there -- too bad nobody told the authorities. 13:18 mplex> hmm, guess the upstreams ran out of fuel or something 13:18 hfx_ben> No ... live report with canned video 13:18 Knobee> actually, I think some of the folks got Superdome and Convention Center mixed up. 13:19 Insder> These people were insane to think they could stay in NO. 13:19 Doobry> this cnn chick is hot 13:19 mplex> doesnt suprise me 13:19 Insder> Now they're going insane and looting. 13:19 Graylight> No one should blame people for not escaping in time. 13:19 geekboi> Insder: Most of them had no place or way to get anywhere 13:19 Knobee> you can blame them for looting, however. 13:19 hfx_ben> They /gotta/ get H2O and first aid in there ... no contacts ... bad idea. 13:19 pthree> so where is the convention center? i've only been hearing about the dome with the roof missing 13:19 Elerium> if they had the means to escape they are idiots 13:19 mplex> what is all this talk of sniper fire? 13:19 JimmyWalker> Yeah. Like we did in the Berlin Airlift. 13:19 Insder> Correct, but then you have the people who didn't want to go. 13:19 Tassium> mplex: What part of it is confusing to you? 13:19 Knobee> mplex: aparently at least one hospital is taking sniper fire. 13:19 Graylight> I think it's offensive that George Bush stated today that "It was a mistake for those people not to evacuate" ... You know, a lot of people may not have been ABLE to evac. 13:19 gnat_x> huh its been raining for 3 hours in NO 13:19 mplex> I dont know how much I trust the national media though 13:19 hfx_ben> "they" ... I'm real tired of folk flaming "them". 13:19 geekboi> mplex: Medical evacs and apparently being fired upon for unknown reasons 13:19 JimmyWalker> We need Military Air and Land convoys to pump in supplies and people out! 13:19 micks3a> convention center is closer to the river, I believe 13:19 Encapsulate> A lot of people in NOLA are so far below the poverty line, they couldn't just hop in their cars and drive to Nebraska and sit in a field. 13:20 mplex> hm 13:20 Insder> 30,000 NG troops in the gulf states expected 13:20 pthree> Who was shooting at these vehicles? The doctor I spoke to had no idea. He said a person in a white shirt from a high building started firing upon them as they were trying to evacuate. 13:20 hfx_ben> Maybe folk who thought they'd be boat evaced this morning. 13:20 BlaBlaBlubb> that's the fault of the .gov 13:20 adamhill> convention center is pretty much on the river 13:20 mplex> I was listening to the scanner feed and someone came across and said a riverboat captain had just been shot 13:20 pthree> http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/scene.blog/ 13:20 @ Soms> Graylight the NOPD was offering evacs to anyone who needed them 13:20 + kow|wk> Just a friendly reminder, please use #interdictor-digest for any and all tangential discussion; there's dialogue going on now, feel free to hop in. (helps cut down on *some* of the excess noise here, though there's an admittedly thin line for "excess") 13:20 @ Soms> all you had to do was call 13:20 BlaBlaBlubb> they did not enough to help evac 13:20 Mode: #interdictor[+o kow|wk] by Soms 13:20 ICMB> There'll be plenty of time for blame later. 13:21 BlaBlaBlubb> yeah, but they should've gone from house to house etc 13:21 Mode: #interdictor[-c] by Soms 13:21 Mode: #interdictor[+c] by ChanServ 13:21 @ Soms> gah 13:21 T7g> heh 13:21 Knobee* watches Soms get slapped down. 13:21 Elerium> they did 13:21 Graylight> Yes, and I'm sure ghetto dwellers really trust the NOPD. Just because you are poor, mistrusting of the government, or addicted to crack or whatever doesn't make you less than human. 13:21 micks3a> house to house in a city of 1/2 million? don't think so 13:21 Soms* slaps knightfoo 13:21 @ Soms> er 13:21 Soms* slaps Knobee down 13:21 BlaBlaBlubb> army whatever 13:21 micks3a> and NOPD has done a *lot* to be mistrusted 13:21 Doobry> it's the babies in their mothers arms just waiting for the diseases to kill them that I can't stand to see.. 13:21 Knobee> heh...how'd you know that I'd like that? 8-) 13:21 Boo> no graylight - but acting like an animal does 13:22 Knobee> so, who's volunteering for Red Cross service? 13:22 Elerium> I feel bad for people like interdictor, not the looting losers 13:22 Insder> Nope, no red cross for me. 13:22 BlaBlaBlubb> the behaviour of the people *is* less than human 13:22 Insder> What was interdictor's reason for looting? 13:22 Knobee> interdictor could have left... why feel bad for him? 13:22 Insder> ~_~ 13:22 @ kow|wk> Knobee: contemplating it, hoping I can get time off from work to do it (unpaid, I imagine, but time off without being in the doghouse for it) 13:22 Insder> Why did I just say that. 13:22 ICMB> It's entirely human. That's the problem. 13:22 @ kow|wk> any suggestions? 13:22 Tassium> Was there anything stopping these people from just WALKING out before the storm hit? No car, but they have feet right? 13:22 theagent> I'll take looter sniper duty 13:22 Graylight> Boo: that's a different subject... I'm just saying our president does not need to be blaming people for this disaster. 13:22 Graylight> It's uncouth. 13:22 Insder> Okay, lemme say what I meant to say. Why did Interdictor stay? 13:22 Knobee* will be in "wave 3" -- sometime around October 9. 13:22 BlaBlaBlubb> yeah, try to escape a hurricane by foot 13:22 micks3a> Tassium: how far do you think they'd get? 13:22 JimmyWalker> interdictor has a business to run, he is online because he is running his business... 13:23 @ kow|wk> Graylight: sounds like a perfect discussion for #interdictor-digest :) 13:23 Insder> Well, he can't leave know 13:23 JimmyWalker> Generators and datacenters for that point do NOT stay running without people making them go 13:23 Elerium> interdictor had the means to stay 13:23 kogyaru> what is interdictor's position at DirectNIC? 13:23 T7g> This situation is what interdictor was hired for 13:23 daniel_bergamin> fuck the looters, I'll take sniper sniper duty 13:23 ICMB> Crisis Manager. 13:23 Insder> He has power and internet, he'll be killed if he goes out. 13:23 T7g> He was uh 13:23 T7g> Disaster management or something? 13:23 ICMB> Which I must say, is a fine hire. 13:23 Tassium> micks3a: Plenty far if they'd left when voluntary evacuation was announced 13:23 Knobee> JimmyWalker: "the Intarweb" is not more important than human life. 13:23 kogyaru> I see 13:23 Cattywampus> ICMB, no kidding. 13:23 micks3a> yeah, far enough for the wind to get 'em 13:23 pthree> Knobee true dat 13:24 @ Sotek> Knobee: Yes, but the man was hired to do that, and was doing his best job of it. 13:24 pthree> Knobee gas and coffee prices up, better not make my data more expensive 13:24 Boo> when you have people that have been well trained to sit on their asses and let someone else take care of them - what else do you expect - the problem IS our government, but not from the response - from decades of making people dependent upon a welfare state and inspiring and entitlement mentalit 13:24 Elerium> they are protecting a 27 story building from looters, you gotta respect that 13:24 pthree> bandwidth is so cheap right now, too 13:24 @ Sotek> And he probably figured the evac was overblown. 13:24 Knobee> pthree true.. 8-) 13:24 Insder> They're protecting themselves, Elerium 13:24 Insder> Not the building 13:24 hexmode> walking out would've done no goood for the disabled and elderly 13:24 Cattywampus> ICMB, I almost get the impression that this guy could be put in charge of area logistics and get order restored in a day or two. 13:24 apollo48> why leave if you have the means to stay 13:24 enwilson> Maintaining lines of communication is important, from what they were just saying on NPR 13:24 hexmode> how do pepole in nursing homes walk out. 13:24 @ Sotek> Oh bullshit, Boo. 13:24 Elerium> same thing insder 13:24 @ Sotek> What welfare state? Welfare is limited to five years lifetime. How is that going to foster an etitlement mentality? 13:24 @ kow|wk> Boo: your thoughts are appreciated, but put it in #interdictor-digest 13:24 Elerium> they lose the building they lose themselves 13:25 Boo> it's the decades that it's been allowed to exist that's done it 13:25 @ kow|wk> Welfare State, Partisan Politics, General Punditry => #interdictor-digest please 13:25 Graylight> Can you clarify the purpose of the two channels please? 13:25 Tassium> Boo: I wish people would stop blaming the government. Take responsibility for your own actions, dammit. 13:25 Graylight> What is #interdictor for specifically? 13:25 daniel_bergamin> what is this channel for? 13:25 Boo> uhhh - that is exactly my point 13:25 Insder> Not the government's fault, that's for sure 13:25 Encapsulate> digest is a confusing name for a discussion channel. 13:25 @ kow|wk> Graylight: This channel's had a lot of information flow directly relating to the interdictor LJ updates, and the #interdictor-scanner channel 13:25 Tetraboy> Phone lines/internet are very important. 13:25 Tassium> Boo: But you just said it's the government's fault that we've grown complacent. 13:26 ICMB> #interdictor is for current events (as in, up to the minure) 13:26 Tassium> Boo: You're saying both things at once. We shouldn't rely on the government, and it's the government's fault we're complacent 13:26 Boo> no - that they expect someone else to wipe their asses 13:26 ICMB> #interdictor-digest is for metadiscussion about the entire situation. 13:26 Boo> government is for BIG things - like this 13:26 Knobee> and now for some levity: http://www.stufonmycat.com 13:26 @ kow|wk> As it gets bigger (it's grown 75 people since I joined), more people start digesting the events as they happen, and less of them are talking about stuff that happens, like "A ferryboat captain has been shot, guards are on the boat." 13:26 Insder> "Looters running rampant: Is it survival, or a crime" 13:26 Insder> Stupid news. 13:26 Graylight> Ok, got it. This is for staying on topic to Michael's crew's situation and what's being said on the scanner... 13:26 @ kow|wk> or rather, they're still talking about it but there's more noise 13:26 jmaher> then can you please kick the metadiscussion people? Signal:noise ratio sucks in here. 13:26 ICMB> Ok, time to start ignoring people who can't stop talking about polotics/blame. 13:26 @ Sotek> So you're blaming people for wanting the government to take care of it, AND you're saying the government's supposed to do it? 13:27 jmaher> or that... 13:27 @ Sotek> erm. yeah. metadiscussion. 13:27 Insder> Blame game sucks too. 13:27 Knobee> considering that the scanner is about silent and we don't trust the news media... what is to be said? 13:27 hfx_ben> . 13:27 hfx_ben> NB: Any way to get interdictor to update the IRC address? He's still pointing to deadjournal 13:27 @ kow|wk> Or more just clarifying the details of current events. When you hear call-signs on the scanner, or when there is discussion as to the verascity of claims by the LA Governor, for example, that's fine in here (to a point) 13:27 @ kow|wk> when it becomes its own discussion, it should go in digest 13:27 Cattywampus> Kow, you're an op. Can you +m the channel, hand out +v's and redirect users to the other channel as necessary? 13:27 jmr22> how about moderating the channel and just letting people talk who are in NO 13:27 ICMB> Yes, please, Kow. 13:27 @ kow|wk> heh, i just noticed i had ops 13:27 Knobee> jmr22: that makes er... zero people +v? 13:27 kogyaru> yes, please do that 13:27 @ kow|wk> GOOD THING IM WORKING SO HARD AT WORK TODAY 13:27 @ kow|wk> lol 13:27 @ kow|wk> one sec 13:27 kogyaru> make it +m and +v only those with news to report 13:27 kampf> :) 13:28 crschmidt> For the record, my host is past the theoretical limit for k-lines on freenode 13:28 Knobee> kogyaru -- and how do you determine that? 13:28 jmr22> Knobee: well, I'm in seattle, guess how much useful information I have about new orleans 13:28 pthree> ha 13:28 kow|wk changed the topic of #interdictor to: Welcome to our new home | http://www.nola-intel.org | http://ods.org:8001/scan , http://64.202.112.69:8080/scanner | transcriptions at #interdictor-scanner | tangents, politics, and digestion of events at #interdictor-digest 13:28 crschmidt> so, if i go poof, and drag everyhone on via webirc with me... 13:28 crschmidt> i'm sorry 13:28 Elerium> What exactly has the official government said that is contradictory to what we are hearing? 13:28 Knobee> get a grip guys... there isn't THAT much chatter here. 13:28 Cattywampus> Heh, I hear that, I'm at work too. You might be able to find someone to work as an op for ya. 13:28 kogyaru> one asks the moderators for permission. 13:28 Prodigy_B> Any news from the interdictor site since the 13:41 update? 13:28 Insder> We still discuss events that happen here 13:28 kampf> at least freenode has longer topic limits than efnet 13:28 pthree> y'all havent seen #debian if you think this is bad 13:28 Insder> Can't really say stuff about new events when the radio is (silence) 13:28 @ kow|wk> Knobee: no there isn't, but when the political discourse starts flowing, it has the potential to cascade 13:28 Knobee* has been on here all day and on the dead server before -- no reason to +m 13:29 @ kow|wk> Insder: there's also news sites, etc. 13:29 hfx_ben> JMR: KIRO is broadvasting report from uhhhh WWL AM or something, from NOLA 13:29 Tetraboy> Yeah, I've followed #debian and other chans before, this is nothing. 13:29 Insder> The news sites all have older stuff 13:29 carltaws> Hi all 13:29 Insder> Plus, it's still being said 13:29 @ agentace> hehe, yeah, #debian can get crazy 13:29 silver_whisper> what's #debian? 13:29 Tassium> So instead of CNN deciding what we should and shouldn't hear, we have kow|wk. I feel better. 13:29 BeanFriedPork> I see everyone's mgrated from deadjournal to here 13:29 @ agentace> the freenode channel devoted to discussion about the debian distro 13:29 boolean> so ... has anyone ( besides fox ) confirmed these rapes ? 13:29 Insder> Super dome evacuated in 24 hours are the hopes. 13:29 NotFastEnough> can anyone give me info on how to connect to the live cam down there?? 13:29 Insder> That's bull, not gonna happen 13:29 Eimann> Yog-home, Knobee: did you read the mail from sean donelan on nanog? 13:29 @ kow|wk> Tassium: nobody's set +m 13:29 @ kow|wk> relax 13:29 crschmidt> Insder: not going to happen, no 13:30 Insder> NotFastEnough: Should open in WMP 13:30 crschmidt> Insder: they don't have any frickin busses 13:30 Kremit> silver_whisper: debian is a Linux distribution 13:30 silver_whisper> gotcha. thx. 13:30 crschmidt> all afternoon, I've listened to this feed 13:30 BeanFriedPork> Jesus, even more people are here than were at deadjournal last night. Is there a web portal to this room or something? 13:30 Insder> They have buses, but they're all delayed 13:30 crschmidt> and there's been a total of 20 busses and 10 trucks mentioned 13:30 hfx_ben> Hey Bean ... re 13:30 carltaws> if there is anyone associated with Interdictor here... a big thanks. finally some unfiltered info I can believe. 13:30 Knobee> I just can't imagine trying to move 10,000+ people ... and, obviously, neither did FEMA. 8-) 13:30 Insder> Not enough 13:30 crschmidt> other than, of coures, the ice cream truck. 13:30 NotFastEnough> Insder: It doesn't can you give me the port number it's on now? 13:30 ICMB> Don't forget the ice cream truck. 13:30 @ kow|wk> anyone find out what happened to the truck running towards I-10? 13:30 ICMB> Too slow.. 13:30 kogyaru> eimann: summary of donelan's mail? (url to list post?) 13:30 Insder> Even if each bus took seventy people over a few hour periods, no way 13:30 theagent> the lack of comms chatter is spooky 13:30 silver_whisper> nothing else said re: truck yet. 13:30 Tassium> A bus holds what, 4 * 20 people? 13:30 mitchell> kow|wk: they stoped it 13:30 mitchell> that was the DL number i think 13:30 theagent> you'd think it would be wall to wall chatter 13:30 Cattywampus> Bean, it's been getting exposure in the general media. Wired just ran a piece on Interdictor's journal, for example. That's gonna bring a crowd. 13:30 hfx_ben> They were guesstimating 15K people / day 13:30 jmaher> Bean: it's called GUI irc clients 13:30 crschmidt> mitchell: yeah, it was 13:31 BeanFriedPork> GUI? 13:31 Insder> You get a little bit of static every once in a while on the comms, but that's it. Very odd. 13:31 crschmidt> there was a lot of noise, they called for backup/supervisor 13:31 apollo48> yeah so quiet all the sudden 13:31 hfx_ben> Interdict's LJ still points to irc.deadjournal 13:31 Insder> Link to the wired article please. 13:31 Cattywampus> Kow, truck got stopped and personnel there requested a supervisor. They ran the driver's DL#. 13:31 enwilson> NPR is reporting that everything that's going anywhere has to have an armed escort at this point 13:31 enwilson> even the buses out 13:31 boolean> hmm ... issues with directnic dns 13:31 Not_Mortini> i wonder if they've moved off of radios. or are using phone radios 13:31 apollo48> not really anything since the ice cream truck "incident" 13:31 silver_whisper> http://wired.com/news/planet/0,2782,68725,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 13:31 mark`> what ice cream truck incident? 13:31 silver_whisper> it's wired's top story. 13:31 crschmidt> military drivers are taking the busses from t-something mall into superdome 13:31 Insder> NPR=? 13:31 theagent> they were talking about email being the main communication vehicles earlier 13:31 NotFastEnough> What is the IP and PORT # on the live cams? 13:32 jij> miltary channels are probably being used now 13:32 crschmidt> mark`: an ice cream truckfull of people driving for i-10 13:32 @ agentace> Insder: national public radio 13:32 crschmidt> Insder: National Public Radio 13:32 Insder> Is there a link? 13:32 @ agentace> Insder: www.npr.org 13:32 Frungy> the guy on CNN just said "These people are SO poor, and SO black..." 13:32 kampf> npr.org 13:32 Knobee> so black? 13:32 Insder> Thank you 13:32 Knobee> as opposed to? 13:32 apollo48> whoops 13:32 ukengineer82> lol frungy 13:32 Cattywampus> theagent: It might have something to do with a bunch of folks listening in on the airwaves. ;-) 13:32 @ SCSi^> so black? 13:32 Prodigy_B> LOL did I see that right? 13:32 crschmidt> and SO prejudiced -- oh wait, that's CNN 13:32 @ SCSi^> bwahahaha 13:32 Frungy> Wolf Blitzer said that 13:32 ICMB> I think people listening in are the least of their concerns. 13:32 ukengineer82> yup that's it, i'm switching over to CNN 13:32 Frungy> I cant even believe it 13:32 pthree> haha 13:32 @ SCSi^> SO POOR AND SO BLACK 13:32 @ SCSi^> bwhaha 13:32 Eimann> kogyaru: http://phpfi.com/76745 13:32 Textral> Perhaps he meant bleak. 13:32 BeanFriedPork> National Public Radio = PBS of the radio; mostly just news though 13:32 @ kow|wk> oh man 13:32 Tassium> Please tell me he just meant black as in covered in dirt because there's no washing water. 13:32 apollo48> new definition for "off color" comment 13:33 @ SCSi^> thats like vincte fox saying that mexicans do jobs even blacks dont want to do 13:33 Elerium> did he really say that? 13:33 pthree> heh 13:33 pthree> yeah 13:33 skep> haha...omg god..blitzzzzzer 13:33 @ SCSi^> yeah 13:33 theagent> I think fox has the best live video footage... MSNBC was rebroadcasting the same thing over and over 13:33 crschmidt> hah 13:33 kogyaru> eimann: thanks 13:33 @ agentace> damn, wolf blitzer is going to be so...something 13:33 Elerium> ...omg... 13:33 pthree> then saturday night live had a great spoof about it 13:33 Frungy> No it was clearly a reference to race as Cafferty just commented that everyone they were seeing were poor blacks 13:33 Knobee> so, do we start a "NOLA Drinking game" 13:33 Prodigy_B> I hear the FCC people scratching away as we speak. 13:33 BeanFriedPork> Yes, Vicente Fox put his foot in his mouth 13:33 Knobee> like the one during the gulf war... 13:33 Insder> Off to channel 43, CNN 13:33 pthree> Frungy that's all they were showing on tv too 13:33 silver_whisper> damn comcast doesn't have fox news as an analog cable channel. 13:33 Knobee> everytime Wolf ducked -- gotta take a drink. 13:33 apollo48> did i hear something about a drinking game 13:33 pthree> Frungy people i thought were just a stereotype... 13:33 @ agentace> sometimes I wish I had cable... 13:34 Knobee> everytime a racist statement is made -- take a drink. 13:34 Textral> oh goodie, something else for the PC nazis to get up in arms about 13:34 Knobee> 8-) 13:34 Toast> Can anyone get any connection to directnic, or are they down? 13:34 @ agentace> Textral: too true 13:34 ukengineer82> so i have a question. If you're a reporter for a news station, is it sorta like an initiation...a rite of passage....that you have to go stand in the middle of a hurricane when it hits? 13:34 pthree> directnic.com is up 13:34 Bakudan> i can hit directnic 13:34 Knobee> looks like their video feed is still up... 13:34 Knobee> I'd guess that they are still alive. 13:34 kogyaru> eimann: sober point 13:34 @ agentace> I can get to directNIC 13:34 @ SCSi^> wait 13:34 Tassium> ukengineer82: I imagine it's your chance to get lots of camera time.. They probably fight for the chance. 13:34 Insder> Yes, some noise! 13:34 Cattywampus> DirectNIC is probably still on one pipe. 13:34 theagent> finally some comm traffic 13:34 @ agentace> of course I'm on bellsouth... 13:34 hfx_ben> heh ... the gonzo journalists all want that assignment 13:34 kogyaru> eimann: I disagree in part though 13:34 @ SCSi^> did he mean like charlie murphy black, or wesley snipes black? 13:34 enwilson> The picture page came back up too, it looks like 13:34 @ agentace> Charlie Murphy! Darknessss 13:35 brocktice> hey, do you think cox will bill me for cable service w/ my apt. underwater? 13:35 Textral> As for someone who threw out the "I can't imagine them evacuating 10,000+ people in 24 Hours comment"... 13:35 BeanFriedPork> So, anarchy still reigns I take it. 13:35 apollo48> has anyone gotten anything on the scanner feed? 13:35 @ agentace> brocktice: I wouldn't be surprised :P 13:35 Tassium> brocktice: Count on it 13:35 @ SCSi^> darkness is spreading! 13:35 apollo48> too quiet 13:35 Knobee> Textral -- that would be me. 13:35 Textral> Saw a clip earlier that said there were over 50-60,000 people 13:35 Prodigy_B> brocktice: probably, they're bastards 13:35 @ kow|wk> FUCK YO COUCH! 13:35 Insder> Textral: Me also. 13:35 @ kow|wk> (sorry) 13:35 @ agentace> kow|wk: buy anotha one ya rich motha! 13:35 Frungy> fuck 13:35 pthree> jesus, 50-60k people? 13:35 Knobee> Textral -- yeah, pretty nasty. 13:35 Textral> so I highly doubt the 24 hours # is feasible. :( 13:35 brocktice> better cancel it when i get to the hotel 13:35 ukengineer82> "Charlie murphey tells that story like he gave me some sort of Bruce Lee kick" 13:35 skep> they say that 2.500 people are at the superdome... 13:35 pthree> this combined with rising fuel costs combined with the new minimum credit payment options 13:35 pthree> = blackhole 13:35 hfx_ben> HOw many buses out overnight, 30? 13:35 Knobee> I heard on the scanner this morning around 6:00am (eastern) that they had 145 busses lined up to take them out. 13:35 crschmidt> Textral: that's the highest number I've seen 13:36 Textral> Yeah, people have been holed up in high-rises, and they've been seeing the buses roll to the dome and came out and followe dthem 13:36 silver_whisper> why does that fire look pink? 13:36 Cattywampus> Quiet radio's a good sign. Means there are no new emergencies. 13:36 hfx_ben> 30 X 60 in each *sigh* 13:36 pthree> how the fuck are people going to now pay back debt in 10yrs instead of 30? 13:36 mplex> they are still up but datasync, their providers website, is down 13:36 Not_Mortini> Cattywampus: No. 13:36 Textral> Some Lt. from the Nat'l Guard was reporting it to CNN a little while ago 13:36 Insder> And off CNN Headline to CNN on channel 42 13:36 Not_Mortini> Cattywampus: I don't think they're using it. 13:36 Insder> I really wish I had a remote 13:36 Textral> there's a video feed somewhere... lemme find URL 13:36 Not_Mortini> they're using ctss/nextels & other military bands 13:36 Not_Mortini> probably 13:37 @ agentace> video feed: http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 13:37 Insder> Take them a while to get all those people out 13:37 Knobee> I don't think they will use Nextels. 13:37 Insder> And then of course dead body clean-up 13:37 Cattywampus> Mortin: Oh, true. 13:37 @ agentace> damnit, Nextel, the bane of cellular tech 13:37 Knobee> towers down / CO powerless == no nextel. 13:37 apollo48> nextel sucks 13:37 Frungy> What are your opinions on the government rebuilding homes for insurance-less people 13:37 mplex> nextel towers have to be down like everything else 13:37 Knobee> higher taxes perhaps? 13:37 boolean> Not_Mortini: anyway for public access to these bands ( just asking through i think i know the answer ) 13:37 @ agentace> Frungy: file a claim with FEMA 13:37 Insder> I don't think it's correct 13:37 mplex> the national govt should have an emergency trunked radio system they can fly in 13:38 Insder> The government could help them with a grant 13:38 Insder> But fully rebuilding, no 13:38 carltaws> somebody decided that public comm was no longer acceptable. 13:38 Insder> Donations should help that 13:38 Bakudan> Looks like they're down to about 2400 people in the superdome 13:38 Textral> It's off CNN's homepage. Click on the 'Watch: Superdome fires" link (jscript, or I'd link directly. 13:38 Not_Mortini> boolean: Not really sure. 13:38 Not_Mortini> I can't imagine that there's too many towers that would be required for minimal service for the nextels to work 13:38 BeanFriedPork> there are still thousands at the Convention Center, right? 13:38 crschmidt> BeanFriedPork: yes 13:38 Not_Mortini> in that area 13:38 crschmidt> and it's not considered "secure", according to recent comms 13:38 Textral> ah, wb pork 13:39 BeanFriedPork> And San Antonio has offered to take some of the refugees, thankfully 13:39 mplex> NotFastEnough: you need towers, backup generators and fiber or microwave links 13:39 crschmidt> They are using cell phones for comms, according to radio traffic 13:39 Cattywampus> It's probably not anything cellular, it's probably some other unit-to-unit radio. 13:39 theagent> Fox talking about "prime real estate" at shelters.... Power outlets! 13:39 Knobee> We are now the #1 peercast audio on the Intarweb! 13:39 Knobee> http://yp.peercast.org/?find=&Submit=Search 13:39 BeanFriedPork> Awesome! 13:39 mplex> not to mention the switching headend 13:39 Not_Mortini> Cattywampus: Well. the 'talk' feature on nextels IS radio 13:39 crschmidt> the hospitals are using them to communicate 13:39 Textral> have been for about 30 minutes, knobee. :) 13:39 BeanFriedPork> WE'RE #1! W00T! 13:39 Tassium> My local police department uses a lot of cell-phones for officer to officer communication as standard practice, let alone for emergencies 13:39 Not_Mortini> it's called a 'trunk' 13:39 Knobee> too bad there is no audio... 13:39 crschmidt> so there must be *some* cell towers still up 13:39 skep> Knoobee, and this with a silent stream ;) 13:39 hfx_ben> Bean: "thousands and thousand who've been there for days" 13:39 carltaws> satelite phones would be handy. 13:39 mplex> Not_Mortini: all that is dead Im sure 13:39 Cattywampus> Mortin: I thought the Nextels bounced everything (even talk) through a tower? 13:39 Textral> yeah, I noticed that 13:39 soundunit> reports of carjacking and small roits in baton rouge..some of the refugees there are stirring shit up 13:40 apollo48> only the media seems to have those 13:40 Not_Mortini> Cattywampus: Sure. 13:40 BeanFriedPork> yeah. funny how the convention center didn't get the same sort of press the Superdome did 13:40 skep> audio is back 13:40 Not_Mortini> mplex: They talk a lot about using phones on the scanner 13:40 Insder> audio died for a sec, yeah 13:40 Bakudan> Nextel phones use the tower for direct connect 13:40 mplex> all I have heard is sat phones 13:40 soundunit> what are you guys listening to? 13:40 Not_Mortini> like i said. i'm sure it wouldn't take many towers to make that work 13:40 Knobee> that's what we need -- this crap to spread to "non-damaged" areas. 13:40 Bakudan> some models can use it over the air though without a tower 13:40 ICMB> It already is, Knobee. 13:40 soundunit> exactly 13:40 Cattywampus> Mortin: They'd have to have a heck of a range, then. 13:40 soundunit> batopn rouge closed its doors 13:40 BeanFriedPork> well, Google has a ribbon up on their front page now 13:40 Knobee* goes home to clean his guns. 13:40 Not_Mortini> Cattywampus: cellphone towers? 13:40 theagent> that is what happened during LA riots... it started in one locations and spread like wildfire 13:40 Textral> man... 13:41 Knobee> what color is the ribon? 13:41 Insder> Aircraft carrier leaving Norfolk for gulf, hrm 13:41 BeanFriedPork> dark grey 13:41 Knobee> "water colors"? 8-) 13:41 @ kow|wk> Can we protest the war in New Orleans? 13:41 @ agentace> haha 13:41 ppod> LOL 13:41 Not_Mortini> they should have beads, instead of a ribbon :) 13:41 Tassium> kow|wk: Sure, buy a magnet for your car 13:41 carltaws> i predict this will ferment unrest in other larger cities. 13:41 skep> hehe 13:41 Cattywampus> Mortin, no, the handhelds. Towers are out for quite a ways. 13:41 Knobee> Insder -- gonna bomb them back into the city? 13:41 enotnert> anyone in NOLA still alive? 13:41 tiaz> no, going to bomb the water back into the ocean 13:41 @ agentace> kow|wk: you can protest anything you like :P 13:41 Toast> Cool the base responded 13:41 Textral> ribbon color: sewage? 13:41 Insder> Knobee: Hope they have a lot of troops 13:41 @ kow|wk> it was just a joke :) 13:41 crschmidt> what's bellchase? 13:41 Tassium> Chinooks == helicopters? 13:41 Encapsulate> Woot! 13:41 jmaher> I think you meant "foment" 13:41 crschmidt> yep 13:41 enwilson> Did they say more than 20% of the stations in NC counties are out of gas just now on NPR? 13:41 MetsRallyNick> im looking for chase lowerline 13:42 crschmidt> Tassium: yep 13:42 mitchell> Tassium: big ones 13:42 Textral> Tass: Yeah, large transport copters 13:42 theagent> bellchase? 13:42 Toast> a place? 13:42 MetsRallyNick> no chase lowerline 13:42 Insder> Where or what is bellchase 13:42 carltaws> yes. chinooks = heli's 13:42 Encapsulate> crschmidt: Bellchase is a road, I believe 13:42 Insder> Sounds like a place 13:42 Beave> did everyones feed got silent? 13:42 Knobee> enwilson -- possibly. I'm in Raleigh and there are places with no gas around. 13:42 Insder> Yes, but where is this road 13:42 enotnert> enwilson: being from SC I wouldn't doubt it, I've been in contact with my dad all day, he runs a texaco, and it's hell on earth here 13:42 crschmidt> Toast: yeah, it's a place 13:42 Encapsulate> Looking it up now 13:42 hfx_ben> ahh ... answered my question 13:42 Knobee> with the 2 major oil pipelines down, we only have a 7 day supply at the LARGEST stations. 13:42 @ agentace> enwilson: I'm in SC and there are stations with no fuel left 13:42 crschmidt> didn't know what kind 13:42 @ agentace> same in GA 13:42 crschmidt> They have a comms center there 13:42 enwilson> Yesterday afternoon, I went past the local Raceway station...they were already out 13:42 royb> Knobee: in salisbury and charlotte, there's pretty much no gas. 13:42 Knobee> Cary Oil was reporting outages yesterday. 13:42 hfx_ben> Must be a staging area ... is it west of the city? 13:42 apollo48> i've heard running out of gas in n. louisiana 13:42 @ kow|wk> Chinooks are those choppers w/ the two large rotors, 13:42 royb> <-- in salisbury 13:42 @ kow|wk> for anyone trying to visualize :) 13:43 Knobee> Colonial Pipeline re-started their line today @ 25% capacity 13:43 enwilson> NC's Mike Easley has suspended non-essential travel by state employees 13:43 Insder> Only one gas station up here ran out of gas, that one got flooded with people because it had the lowest price on the northshore 13:43 carltaws> big mofos 13:43 Knobee> will be at 50% maximum by early next week. 13:43 crschmidt> is 236 a road around there too? 13:43 hfx_ben> I hear troops will be setting up by the airport ... NW of downtown, yes? 15 miles? 13:43 Tetraboy> Some stations are/were out in GA, others are/were imposing limits of gas per person. 13:43 Knobee> enwilson -- yeah, I get to work from home tomorrow!!! 13:43 Textral> I've heard of gas outages in FL near orlando too 13:43 Tassium> Chinook helicopter - http://www.rugreview.com/ebay16/ch47.jpg 13:43 BeanFriedPork> Best to be stockpiling oil then. A plastic five gallon gas can costs like eight dollars, and is something you might want to keep in the back of your car. 13:43 enwilson> TELECOMMUTING 13:44 @ agentace> I love telecommuting :P 13:44 Knobee> BeanFriedPork -- until you are in a wreck and die of the flash-fire. 13:44 royb> telecommuting++ 13:44 BeanFriedPork> Meh 13:44 Knobee> DO NOT KEEP GASOLINE IN YOUR CAR. DO NOT DO IT. 13:44 Bakudan> Bean: its not leagal to carry gas like that 13:44 apollo48> probably not a good idea 13:44 Insder> Yep, not legal 13:44 Knobee> *BOOM* 13:44 Tetraboy> People in GA were filling their cars, and filling up all the gas cans they could. 13:44 BeanFriedPork> Or keep it in your garage? 13:44 iStormy> we're out in north mississippi 13:44 Toast> If I were a terrorist, I'd launch an all out international attack on the worlds oil inferstructure now. Could send the world into a depression. 13:44 Insder> And I believe Knobee is a volunteer firefighter, so he'll know his stuff 13:44 @ agentace> Yeah...plastic gas can plus carpet in car = static which is not good 13:44 hfx_ben> 100 "national guard police" will land airport tonight ... 100 13:44 Bakudan> You can keep it on your property, just not in your car 13:45 Knobee> "trust me" 8-) 13:45 brocktice> hfx: yeah about 15 mi WNW 13:45 dnafrequency> 100....eh? 13:45 apollo48> whoa, easy there with those terrorist comments 13:45 Doobry> i think a bomb in washington will probably have the same effect.. 13:45 fxt> agent - "pinto effect" 13:45 hfx_ben> brock: rgr tu 13:45 theagent> venting gas can in trunk and cellphone ringing... NOT GOOD! 13:45 Insder> Nice, more comm traffic 13:45 Textral> yeah, towards the end of that "Superdome fires" clip, on CNN from Lt. Col. Pete Schneider of the LA National Guard: "Citizens who were held up in high-rise office buildings and hotels saw buses moving into the dome, and realized this was an evacuation point. We're estimating between fifty and sixty thousand now." 13:45 enotnert> hey, kid's how bout we stop the gas bitching 13:45 crschmidt> hey, the bulldogs are back! 13:45 enotnert> it's not doing any good at the moment 13:45 royb> there are people breaking in to cars and siphoning gas in charlotte, nc 13:45 Textral> actually, it's more towards the middle of the clip. 13:45 hfx_ben> brocktice: is "bellchase" out that way? 13:45 Knobee> the amazing thing that I was thinking how easy it would be to have flooded NOLA by a terrorist group 13:45 Bakudan> Come to Jacksonville - no gas shortages, and just under $3 13:45 ICMB> Take gasoline discussions to #interdictor-digest please 13:45 seg> Cell phones are solid state, they don't spark. UNLESS YOU HAVE A VIBRATOR. 13:45 Toast> I meen with the current problems with supply in the golf and everyone trying to full up right now. it would be a a problem. 13:45 Knobee> seems like a line of det cord next to that "Levee" in the middle of the night would have been hella bad. 13:46 Tassium> seg: And if you do, what are you doing worrying about your phone? ;) 13:46 crschmidt* waves to aaron 13:46 idigital_> hey chris 13:46 idigital_: is now known as aaronr 13:46 brocktice> hfx: i am not sure never been to belle chase 13:46 enwilson> FEMA briefing on all channels 13:46 @ agentace> gas discussions are pertinent in discussing the effect which this disaster has had upon the US as a whole...why shouldn't we discuss it? 13:46 enwilson> or all cable channels, anyway 13:46 Toast> apollo48: I don't want any of that to happen, but you have to second guess them before you can stop them. 13:46 crschmidt> sounds like NO Eoc/state eoc isn't answering 13:46 dnafrequency> bellechase is on the westbank....on the border of jeff. and plaquemines parishes 13:46 Insder> Audio died for a sec 13:46 crschmidt> 4 calls for them with no response 13:46 @ Sotek> Knobee: It would have been so much easier to handle a broken levee if nothing else was going on, though. 13:46 apollo48> good point toast 13:47 jblyberg: is now known as Sandoz 13:47 carltaws> no new refineries build in 30 yrs... with gov. help, I'm sure the poor oil companies will build a few more now. 13:47 Knobee> Sotek - true. 13:47 Tetraboy> Reall though, why would terroists attack NO now? It's already had so much damage. 13:47 Knobee> but be caught 100% unwares. 13:47 crschmidt> agentace: #interdictor-digest more appropriate 13:47 Mode: #interdictor[+v Knobee] by Soms 13:47 Toast> carltawa: sure, but how long would it take? 13:47 seg> I like how after 5 years I finally got my pimpin' 1981 Lincoln Mark VI running, just in time for gas prices to skyrocket. ;P 13:47 Tassium> Tetraboy: For psychological effect? 13:47 @ Sotek> Tetra: Knobee, I assume, refers to a hypothetical elsewise. 13:47 @ agentace> crschmidt: why? 13:47 + Knobee> I'm saying BEFORE the hurricane -- or -- DURING the hurricane... 13:47 Insder> Lots of calls for fuel 3, no response 13:47 Mode: #interdictor[+v Toast] by Soms 13:47 @ Sotek> but ... yeah. would have been nowhere near as bad. 13:47 @ agentace> crschmidt: I don't see the point in talking on multiple channels about the same stuff 13:47 seg> Now I'm considering getting a moped and parking it in the trunk of the Lincoln. ;P 13:47 Insder> Labor day Weekend isn't helping gas prices 13:47 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest for chatting THANK YOU 13:47 carltaws> Toast: a couple of years easy. 13:47 @ Sotek> The local government would still have been intact. 13:47 hfx_ben> NB: "Plaquemines Parish Bellchase Administration Building" ... 13:47 + Knobee> true. 13:47 crschmidt> agentace: *shrug*, I just repeat what I'm told 13:48 Cattywampus> agentace, they're trying to keep this channel geared towards breaking news, etc. 13:48 hfx_ben> ... so it's an admin center some sort 13:48 @ Soms> thats probably because he isn't using the correct call sign 13:48 @ Soms> there is not a NO EOC, its States EOC 13:48 cvE> btw: oilprice - $69.30.. 13:48 crschmidt> Soms: yeah 13:48 cvE> ;) 13:48 Cheebo> is that all? 13:48 @ Soms> most people wont respond to bad calls 13:48 Insder> Yes, but news is getting in 13:48 Insder> Another call for fuel 3 13:48 Insder> Hmm. 13:48 hfx_ben> If it ain't yerz, hush. 13:48 Weevil> sa goon checking in 13:48 + Toast> Soms: thanks 13:48 Soms changed the topic of #interdictor to: We're moving to irc.freenode.net to #interdictor (this server is overloaded) 13:48 enwilson> CNN news ticker: Aircraft Carrier Harry S Truman heading to Nola to serve as floating command center 13:48 BeanFriedPork> I see the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve has been tapped to combat the gas prices. This is probably a good thing. 13:48 tiaz> t weevil ok 13:48 + Knobee> ah, 12 minutes till I get to go home.... and chat from THERE instead from here @ work. 8-) 13:48 crschmidt> Soms: both "mobile fuel" have been calling for NO EOC 13:49 crschmidt> sounds like someone missed a lesson in call signs 13:49 Insder> enwilson: That's the one I saw on CNN before. 13:49 Padathir> Only if they can find places to refine it 13:49 @ Soms> crschmidt intresting 13:49 Textral> Any word on the ETA for the carrier? 13:49 Weevil> thanks for all the good work. I've been following the blog for a while. Now I'm recording the scanner. 13:49 + Knobee> http://www.stuffonmycat.com/media/2/20050831-DRCHOCOLATE.jpg -- and now some levity. 13:49 Textral> I imagine those things don't move too fast 13:49 @ Soms> Padathir within 48 hours all gulf coast oil processing plants will reopen 13:49 Textral> Especially if it's gotta swing around florida 13:49 carltaws> refining is the problem. not availability 13:49 d0d63> USNS comfort scheduled to arrive 9/8 13:50 enwilson> Insder: ah, pardon 13:50 d0d63> (dunno about the carrier) 13:50 Frungy> a fucking week!? 13:50 + Knobee> Soms -- where did you hear that? 13:50 Padathir> The 8th? That's forever... 13:50 theagent> that 63 people in chinooks heading for the Superdome 13:50 crschmidt> chinooks are going to superdome first 13:50 Insder> enwilson: You gave more info than me, no big deal. Just mentioning. I didn't know the name of it 13:50 Frungy> oh wait they have to sail from Maryland 13:50 Padathir> meh 13:50 zooted: is now known as zotted 13:50 @ agentace> I was under the impression that the hospital ship and support group would arrive in a matter of days 13:50 Insder> I believe it's coming from Norfolk, VA 13:50 Frungy> still I'd think they could do that a little faster than a week 13:50 BrianAtDynDNS> 50 ppl from 158 OK to Belchase. 13:50 Padathir> yeah that it a bt of a trip 13:50 theagent> Bellchase is Superdome? 13:50 @ agentace> From what the A. Defense Secretary said on NPR earlier 13:50 micks3a> hospital ship coming from Baltimore 13:51 @ Soms> Bellchase is northern no 13:51 Bakudan> Florida has a long coast :\ 13:51 micks3a> a little further north than Norfolk 13:51 hfx_ben> "Plaquemines Parish Bellchase Administration Building" is what I found on the web 13:51 + Knobee> QRFQuick Reaction Force (QRF) 13:51 shagoth> The Bataan is already there, no? It's got a 600 bed hospital capacity. 13:51 mark`> QRF reactinon force? 13:51 spd-dmn> is the interdictor journal something that just bloomed to this level within the last few days? 13:51 Insder> Okay, this makes a bit less sense 13:51 gnat_x> it takes about 12 hours for a ship to get from baltimore to the atlantic at top speed 13:51 + Knobee> quick reaction force. 13:51 Cheebo> yes, spd 13:51 Textral> yes, spd 13:51 @ kow|wk> spd-dmn: yes, it was originally someone's journal to track events of the hurricane for a few friends/family 13:51 Insder> I'm sure there were channels out there discussing the hurricane before the journal 13:51 @ Soms> NotFastEnough, QRF is Quartermaster Re-Fuel in a transportation company 13:51 Padathir> could it be Naval Air Station, Belle Chase, LA. ? 13:51 Sweeper> what about civiian relief forces? are there any active, ? 13:51 Sweeper> are there even ALLOWEd to be active? 13:51 Cheebo> the disclaimer on his page says it was just a regular LJ blog before all this 13:51 @ kow|wk> it ended up becoming what it is now 13:51 BeanFriedPork> Theoretically, you could plug the power supply from a nuclear reactor of a Nimitz class aircraft carrier into the New Orleans power grid, and provide 194 megawatts of power, or about enough for 200,000 homes. However, with all the power lines down it wouldn;t do much good. 13:51 @ Soms> er no * 13:51 mark`> whats QRF? 13:51 Cheebo> trading jokes and talking w/friends 13:52 mark`> like waddya they 13:52 carltaws> Bataan was redirected to the Missippi coast 13:52 mark`> do 13:52 Insder> Could be, Padathir 13:52 spd-dmn> did any of you guys hear wolf blitzer some 10-15mins ago talk about people in NO being "so poor and so black" 13:52 Padathir* looks for maps 13:52 crschmidt> spd-dmn: yeah 13:52 crschmidt> we talked about it here 13:52 spd-dmn> wtf was that 13:52 spd-dmn> haha 13:52 Cheebo> SPD YES! 13:52 @ Soms> Quartermaster Re-Fuel 13:52 @ kow|wk> spd-dmn: yeah, that one jumped around real fast 13:52 Cheebo> haha taht was hilarious 13:52 BeanFriedPork> They considered doing the aircraft carrier thing in California, when they had power problems. 13:52 Cheebo> "These people are so poor, and so black" 13:52 spd-dmn> jon stewart better catch that 13:52 Bakudan> With the downed lines dumping power into the grid like that would be a good way to take xare of the looters 13:52 @ Soms> who said that spd? 13:52 spd-dmn> wolf blitzer on cnn 13:52 Cheebo> Wolf Blitzer 13:52 crschmidt> someone should give mobile fuel a lesson in talking to eoc 13:52 + Knobee> Bakudan -- hahaha 13:52 @ Soms> lmao 13:52 + Knobee> *POW* 13:52 Cheebo> a few minutes earlier Jack Cafferty was talking about how all these victims are poor and black 13:52 spd-dmn> yeah it was kinda surreal 13:52 Bakudan> Yeah, pretty much 13:53 Cheebo> I think Wolf didn't realize what he was saying 13:53 spd-dmn> clearly not 13:53 + Knobee> sounds like a reason for disciplinary action -- FIRE WOLF! (not that he was wrong, just not PC) 13:53 @ SCSi^> heh 13:53 Frungy> he's just a poor sheltered jew =[ 13:53 @ SCSi^> to hell with PC 13:53 Insder> Audio hiccupped 13:53 Daraq> Cheebo: Kind of like Ron Burgundy? 13:53 hfx_ben> Gold star for Padathir: "Naval Air Station Belle Chase/Joint Reserve Base 400 Russell Avenue New Orleans," 13:53 carltaws> I havent see to many white's being rescued on TV. 13:53 @ SCSi^> its the truth god dammit 13:53 ZombieAFO> FYI someone might want to update the wiki link 13:53 GhostFreeman> Its not PC, its the truth 13:53 spd-dmn> is this stream (mms://204.251.3.10:2864) down? 13:53 Frungy> SO black though? 13:53 Cheebo> Jack Cafferty was saying the media has ignored the fact that everyone who's trapped in NO is black and poor 13:54 Textral> whatever. Fuck PC Nazis. 13:54 @ Amish_Hooker> Lost a 1000 slot stream 13:54 knightfoo> carltaws: maybe they all evacuated 13:54 Textral> nauseating 13:54 + Knobee> you see the comment about there being no Asians? 13:54 hfx_ben> Aww geez the wiki is still pointing to irc.deadjournal?! 13:54 Cheebo> very few whites, everyone is poor 13:54 BeanFriedPork> The large majority of folks still in N.O. are black. It was the poor folk from the ghetto who were the least able to get out. 13:54 + Knobee> something about "they were smart enough to leave" 13:54 JamesG> The LJ is still pointing to irc.deadjournal as well 13:54 ICMB> Not this wiki http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 13:54 spd-dmn> they mentioned a lack of resources available to the poorer folk of NO to be able to evacuate 13:54 Insder> hfx_ben: So is there where they're going to or coming from? 13:54 ICMB> Which is the one in the topic. 13:54 Patrick[WA]> Were the hurricane pictures mirrored before the server was taken down? Also, is there a running stream now? 13:54 hfx_ben> going to 13:54 John_K> anyone know who took the photos that were on darklifeimages.com? 13:54 Cheebo> when you have no money and no car, it's really hard, if not impossible to leave the city 13:54 carltaws> knightfoo: most be it. 13:54 SCF> is there any where were i can get the stream of the scanner going 13:54 John_K> I"m mirroring the pics now 13:54 BeanFriedPork> Well jeez, I don't think Asians ever made up a large percentage of NOLA's population 13:54 Cheebo> however, I don't see why alot of those people didn't go to the dome.. 13:54 crschmidt> Patrick[WA]: links to stream are in topic of #interdictor-scanner 13:55 crschmidt> which is where I'm transcribing to 13:55 kampf> SCF: see the peercast link on the wiki 13:55 Patrick[WA]> Thanks, crs 13:55 hfx_ben> coming from ... shit ... they're OK troops ... 13:55 ICMB> SCF, check the links I just posted 13:55 Cheebo> but as a person living on the FL coast and didn't evac last year, I can't complain 13:55 nash> thx man 13:55 + Knobee> peercast://pls/007D48952E4E7D0992252C52EAE7C1CF?tip=192.153.154.157:7144 13:55 John_K> anyone know who took the photos that were on darklifeimages.com? 13:55 kampf> thanks Knobee 13:55 enwilson> Michael Brown will be talking to CNN at 5:30ET 13:55 crschmidt> who's that? 13:55 enwilson> The FEMA guy 13:55 crschmidt> ah 13:55 nrduncan> Anyone know what NO eoc fuel 3 means? 13:55 AlanCE> this needs to be an equal-opportunity tragedy, someone drop a load of asians and mexicans and whiteys into N.O. 13:55 hfx_ben> OMG Jerry Lewis on CNN 13:55 enwilson> the one running the press conference right now 13:55 + Knobee> fule 3 is the truck 13:55 winter__> http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=16560 13:55 + Knobee> fuel 13:55 Cheebo> lol 13:55 ICMB> Political/Social/etc commentary should be #interdictor-digest 13:55 crschmidt> nrduncan: it's fuel moile 3 truck calling to the new orleans emergency operations center 13:55 + Knobee> EOC == emergency operations center 13:55 nash: is now known as cha0sthe0ry 13:55 winter__> looting in Baton Rouge 13:55 + Knobee> etc. 13:55 BeanFriedPork> According to census.gov, only 2.3% of NOLA was Asian to begin with 13:55 nrduncan> ty crsschmidt 13:55 silver_whisper> where the fuck did cnn go?! 13:55 crschmidt> they've called a bunch of times now. apparently the EOC isn't answering. 13:56 + Knobee> /bind F1 "what he said" 13:56 kampf> this channel really, really needs +m 13:56 Cheebo> is anyone from interdictor's team actually in here? 13:56 silver_whisper> in the last half hour, comcast changed the fucking channels! 13:56 kampf> it's only going to get busier 13:56 theagent> wait till the vermin problem starts.... its gonna be nasty 13:56 hexmode> Asians are a large part of nola population. 13:56 Insder> They've called four times I think, no answer 13:56 princessfroz> anybody know how to change the windows media buffering options 13:56 Bakudan> yeah +m would be helpful as more ppl come in 13:56 nagual678> wtf @ WWLTV ? 13:56 BrianAtDynDNS> nrduncan - It's "Fuel 3" (prob a fuel truck) callinf the New Orleans Emerg. Ops. Ctr. 13:56 micks3a> hmm, nutria! 13:56 crschmidt> Insder: about twice as many now 13:56 mdxi> wait until the vampires from anne rice's house come out after nightfall 13:56 mayo> any more recent news other than what's on the blog? 13:56 BeanFriedPork> They have come in and out. Interdictor's team have higher priorities than to be hosting the web chat all day I imagine 13:56 princessfroz> all im getting is bits and pieces of the feed 13:56 Cheebo> Speaking of Anne Rice - has anyone heard about her? 13:56 Insder> WMP Buffering: Tools->Options->Performance 13:56 Cheebo> I know Fats Domino is missing 13:56 BadWater> wow 13:57 Encapsulate> mdxi: Anne Rice is no longer a New Orleansian 13:57 Textral> ugh, those nutria are nasty 13:57 BeanFriedPork> wacky 8-way split screen on CNN 13:57 spy> nrduncan: Only problem being that there is technically no "New Orleans eoc", so they refuse to answer him :( 13:57 Encapsulate> She left the parish. 13:57 + Knobee> do a GIS for QRF 13:57 ICMB> Cheebo: She's a shitty author, but beside that, nothing. 13:57 Bakudan> Hopefully they can keep their building secure 13:57 Encapsulate> Foo on her! 13:57 Pretty_Generic> I'm from Britain. Am I right in saying that many of the people in New Orleans didn't have the money to leave, and no evacuation was really provided for them? 13:57 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest for chatting THANK YOU 13:57 Pretty_Generic> Cause that is wack. 13:57 SCF> i am listening to the stream in winamp, but all i'm getting is dead silence? 13:57 Pretty_Generic> that's right 13:57 enwilson> BeanFried: it always looks like that at this time of day 13:57 crschmidt> SCF: it's mostly silent 13:57 + Knobee> Pretty_Generic -- take that to #interdictor-digest 13:57 SCF> okay 13:57 JamesG> This channel absolutely does not need +m - the whole point is for people to sit here chatting. If you +m, 3 or 4 people will talk and there's just no point. 13:57 crschmidt> SCF: talking every 3-4 minutes right now 13:57 TuxKamen> Reclick the link again. You should at least hear background whine. 13:57 spd-dmn> repeating the message 13:57 + Toast> I'm trying to find a website with information on national guard radio codes and acronyms. Anyone know any good links? 13:57 @ Soms> Pretty_Generic: No your not 13:57 kampf> SCF: get the http://peercast.org 13:57 carltaws> did interdictor get his finally get his fuel that he missed earlier today? 13:57 Insder> So much like Resident Evil. All dead, everyone trying to get out, people destroying stuff. I had to read RE:Apocolypse last night, didn't I. 13:57 Cheebo> PrettyGeneric - that's pretty much it 13:57 @ Soms> evacuation was provided to anyone who wanted it 13:57 theagent> Toast it's on the wiki 13:57 skep> Toast: http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm 13:58 crschmidt> carltaws: honestly, I don't think he's that worried about the fuel right now 13:58 @ Soms> now the money issue, differs 13:58 Cheebo> They were advised to go to a shelter - whether busses ran for free to get them there, I don't know 13:58 + Toast> Thanks 13:58 cafemusique> If this keeps up I'm going to hear "New Orleans EOC, fuel 3" in my sleep. :-) 13:58 crschmidt> carltaws: more worried about keeping their one remaining line running 13:58 rafx> does anyone have any info about towns in Pearl River County Mississippi? I'm looking for status of Poplarville MS (40 miles north from coast, on highway 59, directly in the eye path) 13:58 skep> :) 13:58 + Knobee> well, time to go.. I'll be back later this evening, and if not, early tomorrow AM. Have a good evening, keep your powder dry. 13:58 winter__> rafx: check NOAA flyover pics 13:58 carltaws> crschmidt: yes... that has to be a priority 13:58 BadWater> hey oranj 13:58 Oranj> hey 13:58 Insder> RESPOND NO EOC. 13:58 Knobee* idles. 13:58 winter__> rafx: http://alt.ngs.noaa.gov/katrina/ 13:58 Insder> Damn it, that's becoming burned in my mind 13:59 crschmidt> Insder: if they said "state", they'd probably get someone 13:59 cvE> poor fuel3.. :> 13:59 silver_whisper> What is, inster? 13:59 cafemusique> insder - just be glad it's not a drinking game. :-) 13:59 PatrickLAW> What does EOC stand for? 13:59 Tassium> Emergency Op Center 13:59 crschmidt> emergency operations center 13:59 Insder> If only we could tell them 13:59 royb> new orleans fucked up bad by calling for an evac after shutting down all transports and all roads in 13:59 PatrickLAW> Ah 13:59 Priss> hello 13:59 jmaher> interesting potential impact study on NOLA done after the Ivan near-miss: http://www.colorado.edu/hazards/o/nov04/nov04c.html 13:59 @ SCSi^> hindsight is always 20/20 13:59 Insder> silver_whisper: NO EOC, Fuel 3 13:59 BrianAtDynDNS> Someone needs to slap the EOC radio op upside the head if he isn't paying attention. 13:59 Cheebo> did anyone notice during the president's speech today that he spent a minute talking about helping people and about 5 minutes talking about the oil supply and possible shortage? 13:59 mdxi> Encapsulate: /ignore #interdictor JOINS PARTS QUITS CRAP 13:59 royb> and we're seeing the results of that lack of planning now. 13:59 Priss> found you throug livejournal 13:59 rafx> winter__: thanks! 13:59 mdxi> damned autocomplete 13:59 Encapsulate> ?! 13:59 jmaher> fairly accurate in light of recent events. 13:59 spd-dmn> is that the center calling the truck or the truck calling the center 13:59 Encapsulate> AH OK 14:00 @ SCSi^> Cheebo. oil shortage affects about 10000x more people 14:00 crschmidt> spd-dmn: truck calling center 14:00 @ SCSi^> and are basically what people are freaked out about now 14:00 apollo48> maybe the eoc radio dude went for a beer 14:00 TuxKamen> Truck. 14:00 spy> haha, I really feel bad for fuel 3 =( 14:00 winter__> rafx: the site is loaded, be patient eventually you'll get the pics you need to see status 14:00 jmaher> http://www.colorado.edu/hazards/o/nov04/nov04c.html 14:00 Cheebo> True, but our lives aren't in jeopardy. 14:00 Bakudan> He's taking a dunp 14:00 crschmidt> apollo48: for the past hour? the bars are frickin underwater :p 14:00 Encapsulate> So... do we know for sure the EOC is still there? 14:00 @ SCSi^> thats true 14:00 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest for chatting THANK YOU 14:00 Pretty_Generic> IRC IS NOT FOR CHATTING 14:00 crschmidt> Encapsulate: we haven't heard anything from them since fuel started calling 14:00 apollo48> maybe he's resourceful 14:00 crschmidt> kampf: maybe you should just ignore the people not talking about what you want 14:01 crschmidt> apollo48: then he shouldn't have taken an hour to find a beer :) 14:01 Encapsulate> I wonder if EOC lost power or battery. 14:01 Bakudan> kampf: just put that on a 5 minute timer ;) 14:01 Cheebo> And there is a perceived notion that the gov't/rescue groups aren't working fast enough, lawlessness, people dying of thirst, etc. 14:01 @ SCSi> everyone's moved over to irc.freenode.net 14:01 apollo48> crschmidt: good point 14:01 @ SCSi> in #interdictor 14:01 @ kow|wk> wonder if they were overrun by Wolf Blitzer's poor black people 14:01 @ SCSi> mush! 14:01 @ SCSi> move! -> that way 14:01 skep> lol 14:01 seg> There's bittorrent for pictures, or at least there should be. 14:01 Cheebo> SO black 14:01 @ SCSi> blah 14:01 @ Dark-Fx> SCSi^: so, you working on re-compiling your ircd? 14:01 @ mayo> :) 14:02 SauronTGM> Who needed the pics link? 14:02 apollo48> now he's calling anywhere for fuel 14:02 crschmidt> that's fuel1 going to 2 and 3 14:02 crschmidt> not fuel3 calling 14:02 PatrickLAW> What pictures, Sauron? 14:02 + Toast> I would like to see this disastor focus minds on moving away from fostle fules, both to reduce the affect climate change has on the enviroment, and to reduce our dependance on oul. 14:02 @ mayo> maybe on join triger would do it 14:02 crschmidt> fuel1 called for 3 earlier 14:02 crschmidt> and got no response 14:02 @ mayo> read the topic people 14:02 Encapsulate> Guys.... anyone...? 14:02 spy> maybe they don't like eachother. 14:02 SauronTGM> the pictures everyone are talkinga bout 14:02 @ SCSi> if i knew how to do that in bitchX 14:02 @ SCSi> :) 14:02 crschmidt> 16:53:46 <@crschmidt> fuel mobile 1, fuel mobile 3 14:02 SauronTGM> the ones on the site 14:02 spy> Some kind of fuel truck drama going on. 14:02 Cheebo> anyone Peak Oilers here? 14:02 (Users #interdictor) 14:02 Irssi: #interdictor: Total of 111 nicks [12 ops, 2 halfops, 0 voices, 97 normal] 14:02 SauronTGM> that they took down 14:02 princessfroz> what is the peercast link? 14:02 krush02> somebody teach the fuel guys to use the radio 14:02 + Toast> There seem to be very few calles answered ... 14:02 @ kow|wk> anyone else envisioning 28 Days Later pandemonium at EOC? 14:02 @ kow|wk> lol 14:02 hfx_ben> 2000 people to Astrodome so far ... 25K to go 14:02 skep> lol 14:02 Tanj|Work> crschmidt: which feed you listening too? i'm a good 2 minutes behind you on my feed? 14:02 BrianAtDynDNS> Rule of thumb: The last callsign you hear is the one talking. The first callsign you hear is who they are trying to reach. 14:02 Encapsulate> kow|wk: Kinda, yea. 14:02 + Toast> ouch... he just made a call for anyone. 14:02 skep> "anyone..fuel 3" 14:02 TuxKamen> So sad. :/ 14:02 nagual678> i hope nothing happened, the blog hasn't been updated in a while :S 14:03 Tassium> princessfroz: I'm using http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 14:03 @ SCSi> We've moved to irc.freenode.net in #interdictor, go there! 14:03 cafemusique* laughs at fuel 3 14:03 crschmidt> Tanj|Work: one of the ones from the topic in #interdictor-scanner 14:03 @ mayo> i'll do one 14:03 @ kow|wk> ./nick fuel3 14:03 apollo48> kow|wk: maybe you're onto something 14:03 Insder> He's getting a bit antsy with the anyone 14:03 crschmidt> jesus, somebody answer him 14:03 Encapsulate> Fuel 3 is about to crack and High tail it to texas. 14:03 enwilson> Latest frontpage story at MSNBC (4:58et): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/ 14:03 @ kow|wk> Is there anybody out there? 14:03 kampf> Tanj|Work: are you using the peercast? 14:03 rafx> winter__: sadly, Poplarville would be located 1 (maybe 2) boxes immediately north of the box containing the redline. 14:03 Insder> What does fuel 3 want 14:03 Tanj|Work> crschmidt: ditto here. i'm just way behind youI guess 14:03 Aequitas> Has anyone been recording the feed? 14:03 @ SCSi> okay, coo 14:03 daniel_bergamin> how strange 14:03 crschmidt> he probably thinks his radio is broken 14:03 @ SCSi> thanks 14:03 @ SCSi> :) 14:03 Insder> Fuel 3 should bring the fuel to interdictor 14:03 winter__> rafx: ah 14:03 Tassium> Insder: He's probably feeling pretty damn alone and maybe getting nervous.. I can understand him getting worried 14:03 @ mayo> no worries 14:03 Tanj|Work> kampf: nope. couldn't get it to work. what prog you running for it? 14:03 Insder> Of course, someone should've responded by now 14:03 mdxi> i missed this elsewhere, but at 1330 local time, someone set a mall on fire and firefighters gave up on it 14:04 kampf> peercast.org's win32 client 14:04 nagual678* 's radio operator is sleeping 14:04 Elerium> damn lots of people joining 14:04 Tanj|Work> kampf: danke. 14:04 theagent> fuel trucks are probably a PRIME target right about now 14:04 kampf> jebus 14:04 phos> whats the url for that live feed, the one on the journal doesn't work 14:04 BrianAtDynDNS* once heard in the middle of a rescue op: Soandso to soandso..... Oh, SH#T! Dave, my batteries are dead. They weren't completely dead yet. 14:04 royb> i have a recording of the past few hours. 14:04 enwilson> “This is a national disgrace,” said Terry Ebbert, head of New Orleans’ emergency operations. “FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control,” Ebbert said. “We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims but we can’t bail out the city of New Orleans." 14:04 NJus4Bfst> All I can say is DAYAM 14:04 rafx> that is because this channel was mentioned in #katrina on EFnet 14:04 daniel_bergamin> I'm wondering if he's got low transmit power and while the scanner we're listening to can hear him nobody else can? 14:04 Cheebo> yeah streaming video apprenlty went down 14:04 enwilson> "We have got a mayor who has been pushing and asking but we’re not getting supplies,” he said. He said the evacuation was almost entirely a Louisiana operation. “This is not a FEMA operation. I haven’t seen a single FEMA guy.” 14:04 cam[home]> is the webcam offline now? 14:04 [moa]ravenous> http://old.mises.org:88/NO2 14:04 Encapsulate> daniel_bergamini: It's possible. 14:04 Jerub> craaap 14:04 phos> thanks 14:04 Encapsulate> Where is the scanner located? 14:04 Aequitas> Wanna upload it somewhere? :x 14:04 Jerub> I was logging #interdictor so I could read it in the morning 14:04 @ kow|wk> Didn't FEMA have to *bail* because they were under fire? 14:04 Neovanglist> damn poor fuel 3 14:04 [moa]ravenous> yw 14:04 Neovanglist> I feel for that guy 14:05 @ kow|wk> Maybe he can't see that from his office. 14:05 Insder> His next message will be fuel 3 under attack 14:05 hfx_ben> No video here 14:05 BeanFriedPork> Wow, FEMA isn't coming off very well. FEMA's director is on CNN right now, and from the tone in his voice he sounds like he's scared he'll be fired after all of this. 14:05 cvE> lol 14:05 Kenhotep> It's not a FEMA operation. FEMAs job is to support state and local authorities. Not to go in and do it all themselves. 14:05 + Toast> insder: I hope not 14:05 Insder> Nobody wants to talk to fuel 3 14:05 Cheebo> feed back up, constantly buffering though 14:05 NJus4Bfst> Is there a channel for SA Forum people? 14:05 nagual678> Everyone : GROUP HUG FOR FUEL 3 ! 14:05 BrianAtDynDNS> I'd fire him. 14:05 Kenhotep> HOnestly, FEMA is doing a GREAT job. 14:05 Insder> He really needs it otherwise he wouldn't contact everyone 14:05 crschmidt> jesus, poor guy 14:05 crschmidt> i hope somebody can fucking hear him 14:05 hfx_ben> *rainbow thoughts to Fuel 3* 14:05 hmknight> interdictor lost a couple of his lines so the video might be kinda slow i think 14:05 Mode: #interdictor[+o jon787] by Dark-Fx 14:05 Neovanglist> christ, we need to page fuel 3! 14:05 Insder> Audio just died 14:05 crschmidt> agh 14:05 crschmidt> buffering 14:05 w0rd> hrm 14:05 Neovanglist> let him know someone can hear him! 14:05 HudsonJ> I wish he knew that all these people are cheering for him, poor bastard.. 14:05 crschmidt> back 14:05 enwilson> Getting video here, but moving in fits and starts 14:05 w0rd> someone needs to rebuffer this video 14:05 @ kow|wk> anyone have fuel 3's fone #? 14:05 mplex> its FEMA, I heard even the military is below FEMA at this point 14:05 crschmidt> everyone, clap clap clap for fuel 3 14:06 @ kow|wk> is fuel 3 on IRC? 14:06 Insder> Come on Fuel 3! 14:06 Pretty_Generic> http://www.katw.com 14:06 enwilson> Which is what I've been getting in daytime hours 14:06 Neovanglist> can someone call a local authority and tell them that fucking fuel3 is trying to get ahold of local authorities? 14:06 digijohn> How do you watch this feed? 14:06 nagual678> FUEL 3 FTW 14:06 Insder> I'm about to fly to NO and say "Fuel 3, Insder" 14:06 @ kow|wk> ./msg fuel3 Yo, we're here. 14:06 hfx_ben> Video's back 14:06 Neovanglist> jesus christ 14:06 crschmidt> i probably could had i written down some of those phone numbers 14:06 digijohn> I'm on Linux, don't know what to use. 14:06 Padathir> haha insder 14:06 phos> that live feed would be cool as hell if it didn't rebuffer every 2 seconds 14:06 crschmidt> i've heard 5 or 6 14:06 Kheirag> So "fuel 3" is requesting fuel? 14:06 @ kow|wk> osweet, uninterrupted video 14:06 Cheebo> Pray for Fuel 3 14:06 mdxi> /dcc fuel3 pie.tar.gz 14:06 crschmidt> Kheirag: we don't know *what* he's requesting 14:06 @ kow|wk> probably cuz everyone else disconnected and hasn't reconnected yet :p 14:06 Padathir> or they're trucking fuel 14:06 seg> Xine or Totem or *shudder* Mplayer 14:06 InsomniacJack> What is fuel3? 14:06 Insder> Fuel3 is the truck I believe 14:06 + Toast> got video 14:06 Eimann> Got a Videostreamrelay for the european Users: http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans 14:06 Insder> Back to contacting NO eoc 14:06 wifs> why isn't anyone responding? 14:06 Sol-Eve> Fuel 3 is probally a tanker 14:06 TuxKamen> Fuel 3 is requesting for someone to answer him. Like...anybody. 14:06 Encapsulate> [NO EOC has quit, Connection Reset by Peer] 14:07 Tassium> I haven't noticed - which channel is Fuel 3 on? 14:07 @ kow|wk> heh 14:07 Blacklite|aslp: is now known as Blacklite 14:07 + Toast> there is a white truck in the picture driving 14:07 PatrickLAW> How powerful of a radio does it take to transmit locally like that? 14:07 wifs> there we go 14:07 royb> doesn't look like it was working, Aequitas 14:07 daniel_bergamin> fuel 3 is probably a tanker or fuel truck 14:07 crschmidt> [Mobile Fuel has quit (k-lined) 14:07 royb> :/ sorry 14:07 skep> thanx Eimann 14:07 TuxKamen> Aha. 14:07 silver_whisper> What the fuck? Did someone just ask for a bagel on the radio? 14:07 hfx_ben> NO|EOC off the air?! Gadzooks 14:07 @ kow|wk> Fuel 3 has quit (ping timeout) 14:07 daniel_bergamin> wtf was that? 14:07 royb> haha. 14:07 Insder> I need a book of these codes 14:07 royb> so wrong. 14:07 hfx_ben> huh hu kow 14:07 mark`> someone tell indictor 14:07 mark`> ro update 14:07 Aequitas> Thanks anyway, royb ;) 14:07 mark`> thanks 14:07 Cheebo> is this video feed looking at canal st? 14:07 [moa]ravenous> what radio channel are ya'll listin to? 14:07 BrianAtDynDNS> Sounds like they got 3 ppl in custody. 14:07 Eimann> skep: No Problem :) 14:07 foot> kow|w: hahahahha 14:08 NJus4Bfst> Make mine a ham on squaw with mayo. 14:08 Cheebo> You know, I had the opportunity to go to Mardi Gras last year.. now I'm kicking myself 14:08 Oranj> whats 10-15? 14:08 spd-dmn> any mirrors of that video feed? 14:08 apollo48> tactical channel? 14:08 bobr1252> 10-15 - [CA] Enroute to jail w/ prisoner 14:08 @ kow|wk> Cheebo: I bet it'll be even crazier this year 14:08 theagent> there we go... they've got a tactical channel 14:08 bobr1252> 10-15 - [MISS] Civil Disturbance 14:08 Cheebo> I also was in NY a year before 9/11 - passed on a visit to TWC, figured i'd be back and could visit again 14:08 daniel_bergamin> actually I wonder if maybe whoever is recording is switching channels on the scanner 14:08 Tassium> bobr1252: That's an understatement, isn't it 14:08 Cheebo> WTC, rather 14:08 crschmidt> "who the fuck is in charge her?" 14:08 crschmidt> here* 14:08 pH1nk> my mirror just went out 14:09 daniel_bergamin> could have switched to some random underused channel, and now is on a police band 14:09 Encapsulate> Cheebo: I think I speak for everyone when I tell you "STOP PLANNING TRIPS" or... possibly, "SEE EVERYTHING, RIGHT NOW." 14:09 NJus4Bfst> CHAOS IS IN CHARGE THERE 14:09 Insder> Either Fuel3 is dead or gave up 14:09 hfx_ben> That very long hospital net radio check was odd. 14:09 Cheebo> Do you think there will even be a MG this year? 14:09 Bakudan> crc: anyone with a firearm is in charge 14:09 Cheebo> yeah really! 14:09 hfx_ben> huh 14:09 crschmidt> Bakudan: i was paraphrasing from the radio :) 14:09 @ kow|wk> rofl 14:09 Bakudan> ahhhhh 14:09 @ kow|wk> welcome back fuel 3 14:09 hfx_ben> the other guy went horse 14:09 + Toast> Cool, he's still there (fuel 3) 14:09 BrianAtDynDNS> Fuel 3 is sounding scared. 14:09 Encapsulate> He lives!~ 14:09 Padathir> PING 14:09 Insder> No, there's Fuel 3 14:09 hfx_ben> NO|EOC off the air?! Gadzooks 14:09 Tassium> Cheebo: Mardi Gras is celebrated all over, it's just you only hear about it in New Orleans 14:09 mcortez> Is there an internet feed for that radio? 14:09 NJus4Bfst> We're ALL in command on this Lifeboat 14:09 + Toast> I would be 14:09 Padathir> PONG 14:09 Cheebo> lol 14:09 Elerium> go fuel 3! 14:09 digijohn> I'm not getting audio on that webcam feed. Should I be? 14:09 Insder> I am here, fuel 3! Give me a hug! 14:09 pH1nk> i think fuel3 is on the wrong freq 14:09 Textral> I was in a training class in the WTC the day before 9/11 14:09 Bakudan> If I were Fuel 3 I would be freaking out too.... 14:09 Padathir> no audio on cam 14:09 tolkachi> hah 14:09 Cheebo> I imagine Fule 3 sitting in his truck, a line of mob facing him down the street 14:09 enwilson> The Georgia officials were recommending that people just stay with family at home for Labor Day 14:09 Viscid> does crschmidt do all this by hand? 14:09 Kensey> Cheebo: that was discussed among some LJ staffers and one said "you could set off a nuke in NOLA and there'd be a Mardi Gras. People would be in hazmat suits throwing beads." 14:09 hfx_ben> mcortez: check the topic 14:09 Jerub> digijohn, no, audio is the police scanner. 14:09 Insder> TMobile is giving out free wifi, someone get this man a laptop 14:10 Pretty_Generic> Fuel 3 is already a zombie 14:10 crschmidt> Viscid: yes 14:10 enwilson> this was earlier in the day 14:10 crschmidt> check topic of #interdictor-scanner for audio feeds 14:10 Insder> We respond to him better than NO EOC 14:10 Cheebo> doing the michael jackson "Thriller" dance coming toward him. 14:10 Viscid> crschmidt: You're dedicated. =P 14:10 Dogz> man this boy has some endurance 14:10 cvE> rofl 14:10 Jurian> just have to type fast enough :) 14:10 digijohn> how do I access the scanner? 14:10 crschmidt> Viscid: you shoulda seen me doing the presidential debates 14:10 cvE> [23:11] Fuel 3 is already a zombie <-- that was evil :> 14:10 nagual678> I'm guessing everyone is speaking by other means, or on other channels/frequencies and the only one who doesn't know that is poor fuel 3 14:10 Neovanglist> I would be fucking wigging by now 14:10 hfx_ben> now he's back 14:10 crschmidt> digijohn: check topic of #interdictor-scanner for audio feeds 14:10 kc4yrz> Anybody here know what URL Louisianna EOC is working off of - amateur radio-VoIP wise? 14:10 Neovanglist> "WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE?, FUEL 3" 14:10 Encapsulate> He can be heard in other countries, but not across town, poor Fuel 3. 14:10 foot: is now known as foot_ 14:10 theagent> hes back 14:10 NJus4Bfst> The Mardigras beads this year will be made of FECES 14:10 + Toast> are there any other feeds, other than the fuel 3 one? 14:10 Cheebo> aw damn 14:10 Kheirag> Next year, there will be no middle ground for MG... either you take your prudish exurban family to Galveston for some balloon animals, or you fuck like wild animals with cocaine in the streets in Rio. 14:10 Viscid> crschmidt: You have a special input device? 14:10 NJus4Bfst> Dried Feces Beads for showing your tits 14:10 foot_: is now known as foot__ 14:11 hfx_ben> kc4yrz ... no such data. Are you monitoring 14.265? 14:11 crschmidt> Viscid: a keyboard? 14:11 Sol-Eve> poor fuel 3 14:11 Insder> TMobile has the wifi, let him join IRC, we'll back him up. 14:11 Cheebo> NJus4 - and empty water bottles 14:11 Viscid> crschmidt: Wow. 14:11 Pretty_Generic> do all these feeds mirror the National Guard radio? 14:11 crschmidt> Pretty_Generic: yes 14:11 Viscid> crschmidt: I thought I was fast at 90 wpm. 14:11 theagent> I think scanner is pulling like 6 or 7 different channels 14:11 crschmidt> Viscid: that's about as fast as I type 14:11 Insder> By now I'd be yelling fuel 3 into the radio over and over 14:11 Viscid> crschmidt: And you did the debate? 14:11 hfx_ben> kc4yrz ... no such data. Are you monitoring 14.265? 14:11 @ kow|wk> update 11 minutes ago on interdictor LJ if i'm not late to point that out 14:11 Tassium> NJus4Bfst: I think it'd be more like "Show us your tits or I'll throw this feces at you" 14:11 Fugger> blog update 14:11 crschmidt> Viscid: yeah. politicians talk slow 14:11 cam[home]> anyone know which direction the webcam is facing 14:11 Viscid> crschmidt: =D 14:11 crschmidt> but there was a hell of al ot more talking 14:11 fuel-3> HEY GUYS WHAT'D I MISS? 14:11 w0rd> cam[home]: try determining based upon sun light and time of day 14:11 NJus4Bfst> #somethingawful 14:11 kc4yrz> hfx_ben.....Negative....HF radio was hosed when katrina cmae through Fort Lauderdale 14:11 w0rd> cam[home]: :) 14:11 JamesG> They need to play better music on this feed. 14:12 w0rd> you can do it pretty easy 14:12 Sweeper> can anybody transmit, and give fuel 3 the right freq? 14:12 Insder> Fuel-3: You missed NO EOC 14:12 crschmidt> heh, heh JamesG 14:12 Briana> ah ha... so what's the latest? 14:12 UnSpecified2> update on website at last 14:12 hfx_ben> kc4: rgr tu gud luck 14:12 Encapsulate> Could someone +v NO|EOC? 14:12 NJus4Bfst: is now known as nj4b-AFK 14:12 crschmidt> heh, heh 14:12 hfx_ben> kc4yrz: qtc 1 14:12 flask-> hey guys my buddy is in the 82nd based out of Ft. Bragg, NC and he's on leave right now -- i told him there were rumors that the 82nd was going into NO. Anyone heard anything along these lines? I'm trying to feed him information as I get it. 14:12 lemonodor> list of channels being monitored at http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20238 14:12 kc4yrz> hfx_ben u2 73s 14:13 jfrancis_: is now known as n0gq 14:13 crumb> good luck, all. 14:13 crschmidt> flask-: all that's been mentioned on the radio is Oklahoma units 14:13 enotsola> poor fuel 3... I'm just waiting for him to start crying 14:13 princessfroz> my sisters husband is based at bragg...let me call her and find out 14:13 + Toast> State EOC opps on the line 14:13 ZOP: is now known as michaelloftis 14:13 flask-> princessfroz: thank you. 14:13 royb> he's probably about to flip the hell out 14:13 Xanieth> ive been listening to him and his voice is changing 14:13 John_K> pictures mirrored at http://katrina.kelley.ca 14:13 hfx_ben> kc4yrz: please forward "Hurricane Katrina Volunteer Signup Database Now Open" http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2005/08/31/101/?nc=1 QSL? 14:13 + Toast> 43 dss staff in red vests to be evacts from hotell 14:13 lexi> hey Eimann, skep! 14:13 t> "action item", good to keep the mgmt speak going. 14:13 + Toast> to support medical needs 14:13 fuel-3* cries 14:13 skep> hey lexi :) 14:13 Sweeper> how big is the spanish-speaking pop in NOLA? 14:13 Cheebo> gee, wondering if we're goign to have brownouts.. just had a brief power loss here 14:14 Eimann> hi lexi 14:14 Bakudan> Curse my job for port blocking - i wanna hear the feeds 14:14 Pretty_Generic> DSS chaos 14:14 Insder> You know who needs help? Fuel 3. 14:14 michaelloftis> gweepins. 14:14 Sweeper> fuel-3: you're a zombie! 14:14 skep> DSS is? 14:14 kc4yrz> hfx_ben sorry, did not see everything...no emergency qtc at this time. 14:14 BrianAtDynDNS> Dept. opf Social Services. 14:14 PatrickLAW> Where are you, Cheebo? 14:14 _Blacklite: is now known as _Blacklite_ 14:14 + Toast> department of social security 14:14 Insder> Head shots everyone. 14:14 Ksosez> what does red vest stand for? 14:14 skep> oha 14:14 ryanl> DSS - Division of Social Services 14:14 hfx_ben> In my lingo "action item" means it has to be pinned to someone's tail ... and initialed 14:14 crschmidt> jesus 14:14 Insder> That's what gets rid of them, live or dead 14:14 Cheebo> Florida 14:14 Encapsulate> Ugh... Move all the patients on the double! Crap! Now go back and get the docs! 14:14 hfx_ben> kc4: can't scroll back? 14:14 + Toast> just they are wareing red, so are easy to sopt 14:14 Neovanglist> EOC! 14:14 + Toast> spot 14:14 BrianAtDynDNS> Enc: Bingo. 14:14 Neovanglist> talk to damn Fuel 3! 14:15 Insder> Fuel 3 must've died, he stopped talking 14:15 Cheebo> to be honest, not sure where my power comes from.. anyone know what fuel source FPL uses? 14:15 + Toast> anyone know who pelican jock is? 14:15 apollo48> i'm starting to feel sorry for fuel 3 14:15 crschmidt> jocc 14:15 Bakudan> Poor poor fuel 3 14:15 Zarkon_ConsoleG> Afternoon, and hello to those in New Orleans....and hope that you're doing all right there. 14:15 ICMB> Update 14:15 crschmidt> state joint operations center 14:15 skep> Pelican JOCC - Joint Command in charge of New Orleans for state, fed, mil. 14:15 crschmidt> is pelican 14:15 ICMB> http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ 14:15 Tassium> Toast: Pelican JOCC 14:15 Daraq> Man, should change those red vests out for gold.. everyone knows what happens to red vest.. 14:15 knightfoo> Cheebo: nuclear, and georgia :) 14:15 theagent> fuel3 has be ostersized 14:15 ICMB> But maybe I'm just behind 14:15 Bakudan> I wish i could go to NOLA and help 14:15 hfx_ben> kc4: arrl database for ham volunteers 14:15 Neovanglist> Fuel 3 is going to be a legend 14:15 Insder> Someone call them and tell them to talk to Fuel 3 14:15 + Toast> cool fuel got a reply 14:15 Insder> Yes, Fuel 3! 14:15 Insder> YES! 14:15 hfx_ben> wow ... lotsa scroll 14:15 apollo48> somebody talk to him even if they've got nothing to say 14:15 knightfoo> Cheebo: : they have two reactors on hutchinson island south of fort pierce 14:15 theagent> charlie! 14:15 Zarkon_ConsoleG> Bakudan: You're not the only one. If I had money to live for a month or two, I'd be on the road right now. 14:15 Insder> They just spoke to him! 14:15 kc4yrz> hfx_ben: negative on unix console 14:15 theagent> Fuel3 - Charlie 14:15 Xanieth> YOU GO FUEL3 14:15 crschmidt> yay! 14:15 crschmidt> they got him! 14:15 Neovanglist> YES!!! 14:15 skep> HOORAY 14:15 flask-> heh 14:15 Encapsulate> His radio is busted? 14:15 carltaws> fuel 3 ran out of fuel 14:15 nathe> i wish there was some use for a general networking geek 14:15 apollo48> thank god 14:15 flask-> whats going on with fuel3 ? 14:15 nathe> :P 14:15 Tassium> /dcc send fuel3 new_pair_of_pampers 14:15 PatrickLAW> What does (unt) mean? 14:15 Insder> Alright Fuel 3, you're not dead. 14:16 Padathir> haha finally fuel 3 14:16 nj4b-AFK: is now known as NotJust4Breakfas 14:16 Bakudan> Fuel3: Where the #$%# have you guys been?? 14:16 Tassium> PatrickLAW: unintelligible 14:16 Cheebo> well I'll be dipped.. I didn't think I was using nukes.. 14:16 hfx_ben> kc4: can your register with nickserver to allow msgs? 14:16 PatrickLAW> Ah 14:16 Insder> He's back to NO EOC? 14:16 cam[home]> anyone else having trouble with the webcam freezing after 20 seconds or so 14:16 princessfroz> flask - sister is not answering her phone 14:16 theagent> Say something damnit 14:16 nathe> i'm a ex-gable guy, and all that kinda crap but i'm useless :P 14:16 micks3a> w00t fuel 3 14:16 enwilson> Update on the blog 14:16 Ponderous> http://houston.metblogs.com/archives/2005/09/hurricane_katri.phtml 14:16 @ jon787> cam[home]: yeah 14:16 crschmidt> PatrickLAW: (unt) is "untranscribed) 14:16 Viscid> What's the fuel 3 always talked about 14:16 crschmidt> ie, I have no clue what the fuck they just said 14:16 + Toast> JOCC - Joint operations Command Center? 14:16 asdflkj: is now known as burnout 14:16 NotJust4Breakfa> I'm tempted to call up a Walmart here in soCal and ask them if I can loot there 14:16 burnout: is now known as Burn0ut 14:16 [moa]ravenous> whos fuel 3? 14:16 hfx_ben> #interdictor-digest for chat folks 14:16 Tassium> I have trouble reconciling the murder, shootings, rapes, etc with Interdictor talking about taking a router over to city hall 14:16 Bakudan> Yeah I'm over in NE Florida - If I could get the time off I'd be over there in a heartbeat 14:16 Encapsulate> NotJust4Breakfas: If your white, just go find some things. 14:16 theagent> get your "Calling Fuel3" bumper sticker from my CafePress store 14:16 Xanieth> we dont know but we're very happy for him 14:17 Insder> Would that unit be Fuel 3? 14:17 Encapsulate> s/your/you're/ 14:17 Burn0ut: is now known as burn-out 14:17 hfx_ben> useless in here 14:17 burn-out> whazz0rp 14:17 Insder> Never forget Fuel 3. 14:17 apollo48> new backup feed link on the journal 14:17 knightfoo> Cheebo: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=fort+pierce,+fl&ll=27.349127,-80.246555&spn=0.004554,0.009316&t=k&hl=en 14:17 PatrickLAW> Have to wonder what kind of escort he has, Tassium 14:17 diidnath> what is the "fuel3" reference? 14:17 Insder> I'd laugh if CNN just showed "Fuel 3 is looking for contact to NO EOC" 14:17 Briana> new feed is still laggy :-( 14:17 skep> lol @Insider 14:17 PatrickLAW> Join #interdictor-scanner, diid 14:17 @ jon787> diidnath: its from the scanner feed 14:17 fiznut> http://www.kittensteaks.com/viewtopic.php?pid=138#p138 14:17 + Toast> new entery on blog 4pm 14:17 Insder> Fuel3 is the guy nobody will talk to. 14:17 Viscid> Crispy`: lolz 14:17 diidnath> righteous, i've been looking for a scanner text feed 14:18 Insder> AKA Charlie, only one response so far 14:18 BeanFriedPork> well, I've now heard the first mention of women getting raped now in all this. 14:18 Crispy`> Viscid: Tell Blackwolf and Duality to chill. 14:18 spd-dmn> on cnn anyway 14:18 qsparky> they need some sort of master list with missing persons names, surfing all the forums is useless 14:18 theagent> Fuel3 must be a geek.... nobody wants to be his friend 14:18 irbi> what is the feed looking at exactly? 14:18 PatrickLAW> And killed, Bean 14:18 fuel-3* is tired 14:18 Insder> There are the buses on CNN 14:18 cvE> people in future will say: "lost like fuel3" 14:18 ICMB> From where, BeanFriedPork 14:18 Insder> They don't look too big 14:18 Insder> But there are a lot 14:18 kc4yrz> hfx_ben: Been awhile since I have used IRC.....helping some netengrs with a CLEC I used to work for as well...will check nickserver out in a bit. tnx for the help. 14:18 NotJust4Breakfa> "Rebuilding NO doesn't make sense." - Hastert http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/01/D8CBMPGG5.html 14:18 BeanFriedPork> well killed, I heard about on Tuesday 14:18 Insder> And some small trucks too 14:18 carltaws> raped and murdered... 14:18 less> what scan are you guys listening to? 14:18 Tetraboy> Fuel3 is going to be cult-famous. 14:18 hfx_ben> kc4: ^5 and 73 14:18 @ SCSi^> instead of pwned 14:18 Tempis> streaming scanner feeds from NO http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=scanner&numresult=25 14:18 Insder> Holy shit 14:18 @ SCSi^> its fuel3 14:18 kampf* registers fuel3.org 14:18 Tempis> if anyone is interested 14:18 theagent> Fuel3 is the next Ellen Feiss 14:18 Insder> That's a lot of buses 14:18 ZombieAFO> what's so special about Fuel3? 14:18 Neovanglist> nono 14:18 @ SCSi^> "ooh shit! your box got fuel3'd!!ONE" 14:18 cvE> yeah definitely 14:18 jt_> DAMN IT... was going to get fuel3.com :) 14:19 Neovanglist> instead of playing ditch-em 14:19 Briana> wow 14:19 Insder> Anybody watching CNN? 14:19 + Toast> Wonder how much rape and murder is really going on and how much is paniced chinese wispers 14:19 Neovanglist> like, when you want to ditch somebody 14:19 SimonPhotograph> hello channel. I have an Explorer and a 300 gallon farm tank full of 87 octane. I need employment in the NO area. Any optiosn for me? I'm in N. Arkansas 14:19 Briana> hrm, wonder what happened to the 250 school buses from last night? 14:19 Neovanglist> or when you giv them a fake ph# at a club 14:19 + Toast> Not to say it isn't happening 14:19 kc4yrz> hfx_ben: 73s to u2 14:19 Neovanglist> you "Fuel 3" them 14:19 crschmidt> Briana: I have no clue 14:19 [moa]ravenous> who is fuel 3??? 14:19 Neovanglist> *give 14:19 Insder> Didn't think they'd have that many. 14:19 Zarkon_ConsoleG> NotJust4Breakfas: You know, I have to say, it -might- not be worth it to rebuild as it is. What they have to ask themselves is if it would cost as much to rebuild -elsewhere- as it would to rebuild NO as it is. 14:19 hfx_ben> ..._._ 14:19 Insder> At least 30+ 14:19 BeanFriedPork> Uh, they are talking about a prison riot now 14:19 Insder> I lost count 14:19 Insder> Since CNN zoomed out 14:19 fuel-3> SimonPhotography: dont worry i've got it covered 14:19 link__: is now known as nikarul 14:19 Padathir> my guess fuel 3 is a tanker or tanker convoy, [moa]ravenous 14:19 Minase> the scanner links in the topic, are they live? 14:19 theagent> Fuel3 is my new social network portal where NOBODY is your friend 14:19 MicroChip32* WAS watching cnn, till the politicos came on trying to cover their collective arses 14:19 Insder> Not here 14:19 Tetraboy> Fuel3 is someone on the radio who tried to get in touch with someone 30 times orso 14:19 Ksosez> police are saying they have lost control of the city 14:20 Insder> They just showed all the buses getting out of the superdome 14:20 @ SCSi> /say We've moved to irc.freenode.net in #interdictor, go there! 14:20 SimonPhotograph> fuel-3 know anyone else that needs help? I want to work, but i can't do it for free. Just need my expenses covered 14:20 Jerub> minase: within a few minutes, yeah. 14:20 Insder> They're going to the superdome right now 14:20 Chimi* aliases fuel3 to shun. 14:20 Insder> Counted 20 says the guy on TV 14:20 Minase> Jerub: awesome. thanks 14:20 Jerub> minase: they're streams that are repeating streams that are repeating streams I think ;) 14:20 irbi> does cnn have a live webfeed? 14:20 hfx_ben> kc4: kc4yrz.net ? 14:20 Tassium> irbi: They wish 14:20 BeanFriedPork> I see we have roving post-apocalyptic gangs roaming around in pickup trucks with automatic weapons and full assault gear... great, this is like something out of The Stand. 14:20 + Toast> was that a cornel? 14:20 @ SCSi> We've moved to irc.freenode.net in #interdictor, go there! 14:20 @ SCSi> hmm 14:20 @ SCSi> stupid timer isnt working 14:21 crschmidt> yeah 14:21 PatrickLAW> crs, do you have this running in realtime or in a local loop that you can control to get stuff you missed? 14:21 mark`> wtf BeanFriedPork 14:21 crschmidt> colonol 14:21 knightfoo> BeanFriedPork: Mad Max! 14:21 theagent> sounds more like something out of a video game 14:21 mark`> where do you see that shit 14:21 fiznut> yes 14:21 cvE> NOPD? 14:21 + Toast> talking about busses 14:21 MicroChip32> they should take a half dozen helo gunships in there 14:21 carltaws> thats a lot of people. 15,000 to 20,000 14:21 Briana> BeanFriedPork: Thank you! I've had images of that in my head since 2 days ago 14:21 fiznut> New Orleans no longer exists. 14:21 SimonPhotograph> i want to work. I have fuel, supplies, i am armed and trained. Please advise me of who to contact 14:21 defrabeli> hey, just droped by to say congrats to everyone working at directnic 14:21 princessfroz> flask - sister said she hasn't heard about any bragg soldiers getting sent 14:21 Briana> especially cleaning up the dead bodies :/ 14:21 + Toast> yes - going to the su[erdome 14:21 Insder> There are the buses, yes! 14:21 hfx_ben> NO Police Dept 14:21 [moa]ravenous> why are gangs roving around NO with weapons anyways? 14:21 fuel-3: is now known as fuel-3|away 14:21 Sweeper> I hope someone in archiving this stream 14:21 MaxieZ> Does anyone here work for directnic? 14:21 Cyberprog> howdy all :) 14:21 Ksosez> me too i hope some one archiving 14:21 PatrickLAW> Why not, rav? 14:21 tiaz> I do too because I want to listen to it later 14:21 cvE> ..like looters ? 14:21 PatrickLAW> No one is stopping them. 14:21 Beave> I'm archiving, i know some other people are. 14:21 mdxi> what else you gonna do in a ruined city? 14:21 Cyberprog* is an Generator tech btw :) 14:21 TuxKamen> Because they could easily break into the stores with gun departments and stock up. 14:21 sploo22_: is now known as sploo22 14:21 [moa]ravenous> if it were me, I would leave 14:22 PxM> Is this a web stream? 14:22 hfx_ben> #interdictor-scanner logs transcript 14:22 Mah_Skywarn> you never seen Mad MAx, lol 14:22 Insder> Surprised nobody else has what I have on CNN 14:22 dataw0lf> Cyberprog: military? 14:22 SimonPhotograph> I'm trying to find someone to employ me in the disaster area. I want to help 14:22 nathe> sup mazie ;) 14:22 PatrickLAW> PxM: join #interdictor-scanner 14:22 Tempis> they already looted the walmart on magazine st 14:22 SexyPico> archive what stream 14:22 Cyberprog> nah, private :) 14:22 Tempis> all those guns 14:22 MaxieZ> hey nathe :) 14:22 [moa]ravenous> well this isn;t mad max world 14:22 Cyberprog> uk based 14:22 BeanFriedPork> Yes, on CNN right now, they are talking about looters working gangs of like 6-to-8 people in pickup trucks who have looted gun shops with fully automatic weapons and "full tactical assault gear." Mad Max is not far from reality. 14:22 Sweeper> I'm in Iraq, or I would be hopping the first plane/train/bus to NO to help 14:22 PatrickLAW> crs is providing realtime transcription 14:22 Tassium> SimonPhotography: If you want to help, volunteer instead of waiting for someone to offer you cash. 14:22 crschmidt> someone say my name? 14:22 hfx_ben> channel been /.'d? 14:22 Insder> BeanFriedPork: I haven't seen that yet 14:22 Frungy> They're just looking for some juice 14:22 dataw0lf> Cyberprog: ah, word, had a bunch of gen mechanic friends when I was in the army. 14:22 PatrickLAW> crschmidt: [09/01/2005 Thu 16:20.49] crs, do you have this running in realtime or in a local loop that you can control to get stuff you missed? 14:22 JamesG> Wooh, 400 users 14:22 mark`> BeanFriedPork, i havent seen that shit 14:22 dataw0lf> Sweeper: what branch? 14:22 SimonPhotograph> tassium - i'm not rich, i MUST have my expenses covered. I can bring help 14:22 Cyberprog> i love the smell of diesel in the morning ;) 14:22 JamesG> And climbing :) 14:22 crschmidt> PatrickLAW: nope 14:23 NotJust4Breakfa> The "THINKING" seems to be that if they're going to starve or die of thirst, they might as well go out shooting. 14:23 Pretty_Generic> fuel 3 copy 14:23 crschmidt> PatrickLAW: just typing as fast as i can 14:23 Sweeper> dataw0lf: the capitalist satellite tech brnach 14:23 PatrickLAW> Aha 14:23 phoo> yes, "expenses" Sorry, you'll have to get your hooker money somewhere else. 14:23 ianneub> hfx_ben: I got here from a new link in comments on the LJ post 14:23 apollo48> cyberprog: smells like victory 14:23 crschmidt> PatrickLAW: and emf_ is backing me up 14:23 dataw0lf> Sweeper: Ah ;) I was a 19D in the Army, got out about a year ago. 14:23 PatrickLAW> I wonder how hard it would be to run this through a buffer so you could scan back when you missed something. There must be software for that 14:23 Sweeper> Cyberprog: come fix opur generator! one of the phases in wonky :P 14:23 Cyberprog> nah, smells like exhaust :) 14:23 @ mayo> read the topic, head over to #interdictor on irc.freenode.org 14:23 NotJust4Breakfa> Simon - nobody's hiring a merc right now 14:23 royb> if someone could cover my expenses, i'd be down there as soon as the rebuilding effort started. 14:23 phoo> there is no organization right now to "hire" you there. 14:23 hfx_ben> iann: yes, most have 14:23 Encapsulate> Do the looters even know for sure or not if there will be an attempt to rebuild, or rescue? 14:23 [moa]ravenous> did police lose control of NO? 14:23 dataw0lf> PatrickLAW: Needs to be +m'ed 14:23 + Toast> my stream stopped! 14:23 knightfoo> PatrickLAW: PgUP 14:23 kampf> GO TO #interdictor-digest for political/fuel/etc chatting THANK YOU 14:23 Cyberprog> Sweeper: you've not got balanced phases? 14:23 Tassium> [moa]ravenous: They didn't have control to lose 14:23 skep> fuel 3 renamed himself to pelican base 14:23 SimonPhotograph> stfu, i really want to help, i'm not asking for riches here, I jsut put 300 gallons of gas into my farm tank, and i'm lookign for somone to pay my $3/gallon back - i'm NOT exploiting anyone 14:23 Insder> Now Jackson Barracks won't respond 14:23 Fugger> toast: same here 14:23 Kensey> [moa], they lost it a long time ago, if they ever really had it. 14:23 SexyPico> lol skep 14:23 cam[home]> Encapsulate: nobody knows anything for sure 14:24 crschmidt> Insder: yeah, well, they're only waiting like 20 seconds 14:24 JamesG> Who had the web IRC client? I can't recall the URL.. 14:24 hfx_ben> My resources list http://hfx-ben.livejournal.com/587881.html 14:24 crschmidt> http://crschmidt.net/irc/ 14:24 knightfoo> SimonPhotography: why did you buy 300 gallons of fuel in the first place? 14:24 crschmidt> jamesg 14:24 royb> kampf: what is this channel for? 14:24 JamesG> Cheers 14:24 defrabeli> About the pictures, since they had to take it down, ever thought of using archive.org ? 14:24 flask-> princessfroz: you there? 14:24 Insder> I wanna know what happened to good old Fuel 3. 14:24 Cheebo> been away - did fuel 3 get a response? 14:24 Pretty_Generic> No. 14:24 lexi> On http://www.bearcat1.com/radiola.htm are a bunch of 10-XX codes, each bunch with different meaning; anyone knows which ones are used on radio? 14:24 kampf> royb: info on the subject 14:24 crschmidt> Cheebo: just from pelican base 14:24 SimonPhotograph> becuase i'm going to the area. Period. I'm looking for someone to hook up 14:24 Ksosez> Hey anyone know if they need help in Houston....or anywhere in the area? Thinking about flying in.. 14:24 crschmidt> still not from eoc 14:24 skep> Insider: fuel 3 isnow know as pelican base 14:24 Dogz> Fuel Three must have joined up with pelican base 14:24 NotJust4Breakfa> Any reports of cannibalism yet Downtown?? 14:24 Cheebo> ah 14:24 Tempis> who's the guy running the blog site? 14:24 Dogz> lol skep 14:24 hfx_ben> discussion in #interdictor-digest 14:24 BeanFriedPork> photobucket.com is great for hosting pictures. 14:24 royb> eh. it's all relevent. 14:24 phoo> SimonPhotography, there really is little organization there for you to talk with... you MIGHt try red cross. i'd be concerned though about you getting carjacked by the gangs 14:24 PatrickLAW> Now no one will talk to the Pelican 14:24 Sweeper> Cyberprog: we used to have a nice generator that didn't have this problem. now we "upgraded" to a clow quality, but higher KWA gen 14:24 BeanFriedPork> or imageshack.com 14:24 Pretty_Generic> The scanner is monitoring - 14:24 Pretty_Generic> Louisana State Police Troops 14:24 Pretty_Generic> Louisana EOC 14:24 Pretty_Generic> National Guard 14:24 Pretty_Generic> Red Cross 14:24 Pretty_Generic> Louisiana Hospital Association 14:24 Pretty_Generic> Office of Public Health 14:24 Pretty_Generic> and a few others 14:24 MicroChip32> im still wondering why they havent called in the Amateur Radio emergency communications groups, since it seems 3/4 of the problems are directly related to lack of communication 14:24 digijohn> What are all these black and white vehicles driving through the webcam 14:24 carltaws> Simon: are you looking for an adventure? 14:25 SimonPhotograph> phoo - i can handle myself, I've been in similar situations before 14:25 mdxi> ...and Fuel 3 ('cause nobody else is) 14:25 wifs> http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2005/08/31/disaster_preparation/index_np.html?x 14:25 diidnath> someone call the ARRL and git-r-done 14:25 michaelloftis> the best thing to do right now would be to donate to the red cross unless you have specific sxkills in the area of communications disaster response, emergency management. 14:25 imsuxok> what's the webcam link, if you please? 14:25 Pretty_Generic> everyone at the office hates fuel 3 14:25 knightfoo> they probably dont need some random people driving around a disaster area with 300 gallons of flammable liquid in their vehicle 14:25 Cyberprog> sweeper: you need to balance your phases evenly (i.e. load them equally) otherwise you'll cause it to hunt 14:25 MicroChip32> canibalizsm is how theyre getting the headcount down in the dome =) 14:25 Zarkon_ConsoleG> God I wish I could head out to New Orleans to help out. :( 14:25 Pretty_Generic> webcam http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans 14:25 maven> microchip32 - cos theyll get shot 14:25 hfx_ben> ARRL database: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2005/08/31/101/?nc=1 14:25 phoo> SimonPhotography, good. make sure your buddy is in the same situation. sounds like 1 armed and trained person may not be enough 14:25 @ Dark-Fx> s/help/help loot/ 14:25 @ Dark-Fx> :-D 14:25 imsuxok> thanks 14:25 Cyberprog> and if you think you have loaded it correct, it might be duff shunts in the alternator giving wrong readings ont he panel 14:25 hfx_ben> Fats Domino is missing!! 14:25 Sweeper> gah. the fun shit WOULD happen while I'm gone 14:25 Sweeper> e 14:25 _Blacklite_> hey, Pretty_Generic. 14:25 Tassium> Help, help! I've got a rope, I'll lower it down to you. Do you have a Visa or MasterCard?? 14:25 Pretty_Generic> good luck simon. don't get raped. 14:25 Zarkon_ConsoleG> Hell, I'm easily within driving distance (central Texas) 14:25 Pretty_Generic> Hi blacklite! 14:25 jonesaholic> how often does the web cam feed refresh? 14:25 _Blacklite_> Internet's so tiny. 14:26 princessfroz> rumors floating about sharks in the water in NO...verified? 14:26 NotJust4Breakfa> When the rains stops, how long until THE FIRES START? 14:26 Sweeper> Cyberprog: ok, I'll poke it 14:26 theagent> Fuel3 is going after Fats Domino 14:26 Graylight> Did anyone get a screenshot of interdictor when he turned the camera on himself? I think we would all like to see it... 14:26 Cyberprog> best to check with a clamp meter on each phase cable 14:26 Pretty_Generic> Did you get here from mefi? Or just by being a geek? 14:26 less> its a stream 14:26 Insder> Buses are all lined up 14:26 @ mayo> read the topic, head over to #interdictor on irc.freenode.org 14:26 SimonPhotograph> phoo i'm picking up a friend in TN, he's in the smae situation. We should have 2 months food for two people, 300 gallons of gasoline, 2 vehicles, and arms 14:26 carltaws> lol Tassium 14:26 BeanFriedPork> There have already been fires since Monday. 14:26 Cheebo> that was a couple days ago - if there ever were sharks in the water, I'm sure they're dead 14:26 MicroChip32> maven: sure ... NOW, what about 3 days ago ? the amateur radio community has groups WAITING for the call 14:26 spd-dmn> http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,512700,00.jpg 14:26 @ jon787> Graylight: I have one 14:26 jonesaholic> its not streaming for me... damn 14:26 BeanFriedPork> Both from the disaster and manmade. 14:26 phoo> SimonPhotography, the other thing you could do perhaps is IF you managed to make it all the way in, try going to one of their bases, a hospital, etc. there may be someone that can get you hooked up with someone there. 14:26 @ jon787> one sec, I have to put it on a server that won't get toasted 14:26 jonesaholic> i keep losing it 14:26 Cyberprog> i deal with slightly smaller sets than directnic are using, but the principles are the same, just on a bigger scale :) 14:26 Graylight> Thank you jon787 :) 14:26 NotJust4Breakfa> I'm talking about ARSON... 14:26 princessfroz> image shack jon787? 14:26 Insder> THe hell is that... 14:26 theagent> tones? 14:26 knightfoo> SimonPhotography: most of the major highways are washed out 14:26 Cheebo> woah 14:26 @ kow|wk> ow? 14:26 spy> what is going on? 14:26 Beave> thats not a good sound. 14:26 mark`> BEEP 14:26 Cheebo> beep beep 14:26 crschmidt> beeping? 14:26 princessfroz> SOS? 14:26 TuxKamen> It's going to BLOW! 14:26 mark`> haha 14:27 Insder> Beep Beep Beep Beep 14:27 silver_whisper> wtf? 14:27 BeanFriedPork> Yes, arson has already started 14:27 Cheebo> ahh beep beep! 14:27 Jurian> ouch 14:27 cvE> beeeeeeeep 14:27 Cheebo> morse 14:27 princessfroz> lol 14:27 Jurian> that hurt my ears 14:27 Insder> No pattern 14:27 pthree> sos is much different 14:27 Chimi> i think that means the world is about to blow up. 14:27 + Toast> Hope they are not jamming 14:27 MicroChip32> cripes, i cant read that fast 14:27 theagent> incoming fax 14:27 flask-> beeeep 14:27 mark`> its SoS 14:27 pthree> oh there we go 14:27 BrianAtDynDNS> Morse code. 14:27 BeanFriedPork> Or at leaast reports of it. 14:27 Insder> It was very loud 14:27 Zarkon_ConsoleG> Out of curiousity, is anyone here in Texas planning on going to NO? 14:27 SimonPhotograph> my biggest fear is getting down there and having my stuff "confiscated" by police/NG/military 14:27 skep> it must be fuel 3!! 14:27 inter23> Holy moly. This is the first time I've been able to connect. 14:27 BrianAtDynDNS> -... 14:27 Neovanglist> morse code? 14:27 + Toast> morce 14:27 spy> That's some special emergency code, isn't it? 14:27 Pretty_Generic> MORSE CODE 14:27 + Toast> morse 14:27 Padathir> beeping = stream lost your mirror is trying to reconnect 14:27 knightfoo> SimonPhotography: or confiscated by looters with guns 14:27 inter23> Thanks to the guy who explained how to do it. ;) 14:27 BrianAtDynDNS> -.-. 14:27 Insder> It's back 14:27 skep> back 14:27 princessfroz> dang 14:27 theagent> incoming fax 14:27 @ Amish_Hooker> stream is reconnecting 14:27 BadWater> ouch 14:27 Jurian> sounds more like the scanner is going bonkers 14:27 Insder> Fuel 3 turned to morse code 14:27 SimonPhotograph> i can handle looters, within reason 14:27 Cheebo> That was more code for 'fuel 3' 14:27 Weevil> A 14:27 Weevil> B 14:27 Jurian> no static in the background at all 14:27 Neovanglist> -... 14:27 Cheebo> morse code duh 14:27 mtoddii> --zarkon-- i've been considering it 14:27 carltaws> time check 14:27 Padathir> it's not morse code, it's not the scanner 14:27 @ kow|wk> .. -... -.-. 14:27 mark`> no it was the troops 14:27 Sweeper> SimonPhotography: can you get a CAT card? those are handy 14:27 NotJust4Breakfa> WELL IT'S GOOD THAT THE WAR IN IRAQ IS GOING SO WELL. 14:27 @ jon787> Graylight: http://www.csl.mtu.edu/~jadevree/interdictor/2.jpg - that is what he looks like 14:27 princessfroz> lol @ morse for fuel 3 14:27 londarr> what feed are you guys connected to, im on the shoutcast national guard and i dont hear it 14:27 Bakudan> 17:27 EST :-D 14:27 Weevil> C 14:27 Karnage112> wtf is that 14:27 londarr> oh there it goes 14:27 PatrickLAW> No way 14:27 Karnage112> beeping 14:27 Karnage112> wtf 14:27 Weevil> we're back 14:28 @ jon787> http://www.csl.mtu.edu/~jadevree/interdictor/3.jpg - with donnie behind him 14:28 Sweeper> NotJust4Breakfas: it is, I can tell first hand 14:28 Weevil> it was A B C in morse 14:28 BadWater> it's just a matter of time before looters start looking at people as sacks of drinkable fluids 14:28 Weevil> dont you know this? 14:28 @ Amish_Hooker> morse code is a backup file for when the stream goes down 14:28 crschmidt> Weevil: ah, thanks 14:28 Weevil> :) 14:28 TuxKamen> Yes. 14:28 Pretty_Generic> This is from ABC? They need to improve their coverage 14:28 Ksosez> Hey anyone know if they need help in Houston....or anywhere in the area? Thinking about flying in.. 14:28 BrianAtDynDNS> LOL 14:28 aaronr> haha 14:28 Peeloo> what's new in NO? 14:28 SauronTGM> that last one was different 14:28 Oranj> ;) 14:28 nagual678> so does anyone that knows morse can tell us what was said ? 14:28 pH1nk> i am in houston 14:28 Pretty_Generic> ABC 14:28 knightfoo> Ksosez: call the red cross 14:28 pH1nk> at the medical center 14:28 theagent> here comes fuel3 14:28 crschmidt> nagual678: ABC 14:28 Djarum> I am rusted 14:28 Eimann> gn8. 14:28 michaelloftis> Ksosez: best thing is to get ahold of red cross 14:28 Djarum> rusty even 14:28 nagual678> oh ? thanks 14:28 Graylight> Thank you so much! It's great to put a face to a hero... 14:28 mark`> nagual678, it said, HELP IS COMING 14:28 PatrickLAW> Do we know who was transmitting that? 14:28 pH1nk> we have alot of people 14:28 Pretty_Generic> ABC is probably "initiate transmission" or something 14:28 EV1-DanielC> EV1Servers.net understands the magnitude of the problem some of you may be experiencing. We are standing by and prepared to assist any host in any way that we can. Our main focus of concern is to enable people to maintain communication with the world. 14:28 SimonPhotograph> I've called FEMA, red cross, and BelforUSA, no one has called me back. All I need is a contact and I'm on the road 14:28 michaelloftis> please keep transcripts in #interdictor-scanner 14:28 Crispy`> a 3rd camfeed was just put up 14:29 Pretty_Generic> at least it wasn't SOS 14:29 Insder> Okay, who is doing this feed? 14:29 Pretty_Generic> or ZOMBIES 14:29 maven> the messiah has a face ;P 14:29 pH1nk> tought he harris county CERT 14:29 Wynona> what is the name of the airport in New Orleans? 14:29 Insder> I don't know. 14:29 pH1nk> s 14:29 pH1nk> etc.. 14:29 Insder> It's RE4 all over again 14:29 BadWater> what's that beatles song ? Let it Be, let it be ? 14:29 winter__> Wynona: MSY 14:29 w0rd> nice 14:29 w0rd> EV1 w00t 14:29 w0rd> ;p 14:29 BadWater> let it be now let it be 14:29 Sweeper> ABC? sounds like one of the jamming schemes they use here in baghdad occasionally 14:29 fxt> louis armstrong 14:29 Weevil> PatrickLAW: it was the mirror trying to reconnect to stream A, then B, then C i think 14:29 Mrdini> Wynona, MSY 14:29 w0rd> EV1-DanielC: thx 14:29 tiaz> holy crap this turned busy 14:29 EV1-DanielC> We can be emailed regarding this issue to: ev1helps@ev1servers.net 14:29 inter23> Isn't it like Louis Armstrong airport or something? 14:29 Insder> Okay, but who runs this stream 14:29 michaelloftis> Simon: give them a little bit of time, everything is pretty haywire right now. 14:29 PatrickLAW> Oh, it wasn't actually a broadcast 14:29 pthree> so these zombies, they vibrate? 14:29 jonesaholic> grrr. is there somethng better than media player for this... i'm not getting a streaming feed 14:29 Bin_Shady> http://www.crooksandliars.com/ lots of good stuff here like reporters losing their cool 14:29 princessfroz> my site has been down since the OC3's there dropped...i wonder if its related? 14:29 EV1-DanielC> http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthread.php?t=57910 14:29 sekoku> Insder: It's RE4 all over again <---4 != 2-3 14:29 Weevil> PatrickLAW: no. 14:29 Sweeper> jon mplayer 14:29 carltaws> jones: get winamp 14:29 maven> this is mint 14:29 Tassium> jonesaholic: For audio? Peercast has a Winamp plugin. 14:30 royb> jonesaholic: videolan client 14:30 Insder> Yes, I know. 14:30 w0rd> EV1-DanielC: mirror the video feeds please 14:30 SimonPhotograph> I've been looking for a contact for 2 days, i can wait another 2 before I just get in and drive. 14:30 SauronTGM> princessfroz they shutdown all nonessential boxes 14:30 hoodah> anyone scanning on this server? 14:30 @ Dark-Fx> mplayer__ 14:30 @ Dark-Fx> er... 14:30 oi_oi_saveloy> iTunes will play it too 14:30 w0rd> EV1-DanielC: so everyone can see 14:30 @ Dark-Fx> mplayer++ 14:30 Insder> But if you've played 4, it seems similar to what I see on the new 14:30 MicroChip32* thinks they should just get everyone rescued and blow the dikes, virtually nothing in there recoverable, better to just rebuild it somewhere less vulnerable ... save the expense of cleanup 14:30 princessfroz> im not on directnic though 14:30 Insder> news 14:30 m-flowah>  /ns identify lolinternet 14:30 m-flowah> oshi 14:30 Insder> I have it for gamecube 14:30 Tetraboy> EV1 in the house. 14:30 Scot1: is now known as RunicMourning 14:30 knightfoo> EV1-DanielC: took ya guys long enough! 14:30 Aequitas> 'Lo ZexGX 14:30 w0rd> lol 14:30 w0rd> about time ev1 14:30 Insder> They're using baggage carts at airports to transport people 14:30 princessfroz> agreed Microhcip 14:30 Eimann> Insder: i'm serving the 194... stream for the european users. 14:30 Lazerdye> Does this channel have a log somewhere? 14:30 SauronTGM> princessfroz ah, BellSouth lost teir OC trunks in NO 14:30 w0rd> was about to start dissing on rackshack 14:30 SauronTGM> that may be it 14:30 ZexGX> hey Aequitas 14:30 EV1-DanielC> We apologize for the delay. 14:30 mark`> who wants to fuck!!?? 14:30 theagent> let's organize a search and rescue team for Fuel3 14:30 princessfroz> that would do it...thats Sauron 14:30 jonesaholic> will realplayer handle it? 14:30 Cheebo> A/S/L? 14:30 knightfoo> EV1-DanielC: im kidding, its good to see people doing stuff like that :) 14:30 EV1-DanielC> If someone could assist me with the mirror, I'd be willing to setup one. 14:30 Insder> I meant the one I'm doing. 14:30 MicroChip32> mark` : talk to pres clinton 14:31 EV1-DanielC> knightfoo : I understand 14:31 Insder> First stream listed up top 14:31 Bakudan* slaps Cheebo 14:31 Yog-home> hehe.. did they get city hall back on the internet ? 14:31 SauronTGM> Thats why DirectNIC is running on 1 feed right now 14:31 princessfroz> wonder if all my old NOC buddies at **** ***** are freaking out right now 14:31 Cheebo> hehe 14:31 Insder> Fuel 3 hijacked his own truck in anger 14:31 m-flowah> WOW, CNA YOU EVE READ THIS FAST? 14:31 @ kow|wk> camera's live and not buffering much it looks like 14:31 jonesaholic> oh i got it :) 14:31 Cheebo> barely 14:31 kupo^> how come only black people are looting? 14:31 @ kow|wk> you can see some sunlight on the street 14:31 @ kow|wk> too 14:31 knightfoo> m-flowah: yes, but not that loud 14:31 MicroChip32> kow|wk pick an choose what you read 14:31 BurritoMan> How would blowing the levees help at this point, the water's already equalized in the city and they can't leave all that infrastructure submerged indefinitely. 14:31 ColloquySucks> can we +m please 14:31 m-flowah> kupo^: no idea. in their blood? lolool 14:31 PatrickLAW> Did a pink truck just go by? 14:31 dataw0lf> please +m 14:31 crschmidt> BurritoMan: you mean having natural gas flowing into the ocean is a bad thing? 14:31 knightfoo> BurritoMan: some levees will let some water drain out 14:31 JamesG> Yes, let's +m so no-one can talk. Good plan. 14:31 Insder> I see a person in the center of the street 14:31 Sweeper> just ban flowah 14:31 mtoddii> Hey Zarkon_ConsoleG - where you at in TX 14:31 @ mayo> read the topic, head over to #interdictor on irc.freenode.org 14:31 kupo^> my grandpappy said it's "those fuckin niggas!" 14:32 @ jon787> kupo^: turns out one source of pictures labels them all "looting" and the other does "finding" 14:32 Zarkon_ConsoleG> mtoddii: I'm near Waco. 14:32 Elerium> so did the military really go in? 14:32 Sweeper> he's an asian troll 14:32 m-flowah> BARRY GOLDWATER FOR PRESIDENT 14:32 tiaz> JamesG: fine, +v the important ones 14:32 MicroChip32> BurritoMan: the river levee is well above the city water level 14:32 kupo^> whoa waho WHAO 14:32 @ Soms> who here was from ev1? 14:32 kupo^> SLOW THE FUCK DOWN 14:32 JamesG> tiaz: Who decides who is "important"? 14:32 @ kow|wk> jesus, 450 people 14:32 Wynona> back again... name of airport there? 14:32 Snakez> EV1-DanielC: What kind of help would you need? 14:32 knightfoo> this is quiet for 450 people 14:32 @ Amish_Hooker> if anyone is running a relay off 216.22.26.45 and cannot reconnect pm me 14:32 mark`> 450 people is nothing 14:32 MicroChip32> half the probvlem is lack of silt from the river 14:32 tiaz> JamesG: the op, just like the rest of irc 14:32 Koblu> DanielC is from EV1 14:32 Sweeper> read fast, damnit 14:32 Mode: #interdictor[+o michaelloftis] by Soms 14:32 mark`> during 9/11 the cnn irc had 2200 14:32 MicroChip32> kupo^ read faster 14:32 Tetraboy> EV1-DanielC 14:32 Mode: #interdictor[+o _Blacklite_] by Soms 14:32 Padathir> #interdictor-digest has only 95 14:32 hfx_ben> Food delivery to convention center has started 14:32 inter23> i thought it was louis armstrong airport 14:32 Koblu: is now known as Ryan- 14:32 tiaz> JamesG: it's not like it's some sort of monstrous evil to moderate the channel 14:32 EV1-DanielC> I'm trying to read as fast as I can! 14:32 Snakez: is now known as SW-Ray 14:32 Zarkon_ConsoleG> Like I said, my major issue is that cash is tight and all. :/ Wher'ere you at, mtoddii? 14:32 NotJust4Breakfa> CONDI RICE OUT SHOPPING http://www.gawker.com/news/condoleezza-rice/index.php#breaking-condi-rice-spends-salary-on-shoes-123467 14:32 EV1-DanielC> wow 14:32 crschmidt> hfx_ben: yay 14:32 Sweeper> SimonPhotography: hav you tried the boy scouts? 14:32 kupo^> Those blacks should stop looting 14:32 EV1-DanielC> anyway I can ignore the joins? 14:32 kupo^> not helping 14:32 hfx_ben> #interdictor-scanner logs transcript 14:32 crschmidt> hfx_ben: that's awesome 14:32 msk-sf> it is louis armstrong airport 14:32 JamesG> tiaz: It's not like it's some sort of monstrous evil to read the channel. 14:32 crschmidt> EV1-DanielC: what client? 14:32 @ Soms> EV1-DanielC please register your nick and pm me 14:32 Yog-home> hehe..typical...whenever there's a room w/ lots of people, always people who get all freaked out and call for +m 14:32 jonesaholic> i think it must just be the traffic 14:32 mtoddii> Plano 14:32 Insder> This is going a lot faster 14:32 Cheebo> Wouldn't there be an issue with the ground even once they drain the city? I mean it's been under water for many days now.. will be more many more at this rate 14:32 djbsquared> man, i havent seen freenode like this since... the hyperion switch 14:32 m-flowah> cnn has an irc channel? wtf? 14:32 + Toast> perhaps we need an interdictor-news channel that is -m 14:32 Sweeper> SimonPhotography: also, private security comapnies like Blackwater 14:32 hfx_ben> #interdictor-digest for chat folks 14:32 hfx_ben> #interdictor-digest for chat folks 14:33 Yog-home> omg i can't read fast enuf 14:33 hfx_ben> #interdictor-digest for chat folks 14:33 kupo^> SLOW THE FUCK DOWN 14:33 Yog-home* shakes his head. 14:33 Insder> And comm is out of use 14:33 mark`> m-flowah, chat.cnn.org 7000 14:33 Zarkon_ConsoleG> mtoddii: About 2-3 hours north of me. 14:33 kupo^> SLOW THE FUCK DOWN 14:33 ZexGX> thanks 14:33 Mode: #interdictor[+m] by kow|wk 14:33 @ Soms> EV1-DanielC please register your nick and pm me 14:33 @ kow|wk> moderating temporarily until I can get a better suggestion from someone who's been here longer than me 14:33 @ Soms> Now I am gonna release +m 14:33 @ michaelloftis> listen everyone, be civil ok? 14:33 @ Soms> but 14:33 @ Soms> calm down 14:33 @ Soms> all political shit 14:33 @ Soms> goto -digest 14:33 Mode: #interdictor[-m] by Soms 14:33 Pretty_Generic* NOLA has quit IRC (excess flood) 14:33 maven> can someone log this channel so i can read it later 14:33 irbi> what is that truck that keeps going by? 14:33 MicroChip32> i want a front-end loader and backhoe, a gun, and body armor ... and a ride down there 14:33 mtoddii> yes 14:33 Yog-home> brilliant 14:33 kupo^> but like, why are black people stealing shoes? 14:33 Bakudan> hahaha an immediate flood 14:34 kupo^> shouldnt they be stealing flippers? 14:34 Ksosez> anyone got a phone number to Red Cross in Houston there numbers are busy 14:34 knightfoo> /log open 14:34 JerJer> me hugs his thermonuclear weapon 14:34 JerJer> doh 14:34 Eimann> maven: i'm logging 14:34 Insder> Ugh 14:34 Cheebo> The wonders of google. 14:34 aaearon> anyone else have this urge to go to NO and be a pirate? 14:34 Zarkon_ConsoleG> mtoddii: If I had $500-1000 in the bank, my ass would be on the road right now. :( 14:34 JerJer> stupid irc client 14:34 SexyPico> should be stealing food kupo 14:34 ZexGX> somebody do something about the racists 14:34 aaearon> and have pirate wars 14:34 m-flowah> lol? 14:34 Cheebo> Yar. 14:34 aaearon> and invade other pirate ships 14:34 inter23> arrr. 14:34 jonesaholic> kupo you are making some f'd up comments there 14:34 hfx_ben> we're loaded folks ... please QSY #interdictor-digest for chat 14:34 hfx_ben> we're loaded folks ... please QSY #interdictor-digest for chat 14:34 SimonPhotograph> microchip - i have a skid-steer, level IIIa vest, and a M16A1, and a buddy - I can't get a contact person 14:34 The_Tick> Ksosez: i think 103.7 is taking donations directly for red cross 14:34 @ jon787> aaearon: complete with the parrot, peg leg, eye patch, and jolly roger flag :) 14:34 kupo^> what do you mean jonesaholic 14:34 Crispy`> Anyone joking about pirating and stuff in NO needs to shut it. 14:34 oi_oi_saveloy> Can we have a separate channel for all the people who think is somehow funny? 14:34 mtoddii> Thats my problem im sitting at $98 14:34 Cheebo> What is this channel for then? 14:34 irbi> with a cut off the top? 14:34 Weevil: is now known as Dungbeetle 14:34 hfx_ben> we're loaded folks ... please QSY #interdictor-digest for chat 14:34 phos> kupa it's not a matter to joke around a bout dickhead 14:34 aaearon> jon787: oh of course! if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right 14:34 carltaws> Solider of goodFortune. oh ya. they need ya. 14:34 oi_oi_saveloy> #fuckwits or summat 14:34 phos> kupo 14:34 PatrickLAW> With this many people, all chat breaks down into chatter. 14:34 Zarkon_ConsoleG> mtoddii: That's more than I've got. I've got about $15. Get paid in another week. 14:34 Tetraboy> This channel is for news sharing! 14:34 Crispy`> You motherfuckers are laughing at the deaths and utter destruction of a city. Makes me sick. 14:34 Insder> This channel is for news 14:34 kupo^> sup phos 14:34 ColloquySucks> aaearon: http://www.venganza.org/piratesarecool4.jpg 14:35 @ jon787> aaearon: we prefer to be called buccaneer americans 14:35 Bakudan> I have the money, just can't leave work >.> 14:35 kupo^> phos money 14:35 Sweeper> SimonPhotography: Blackwater Security is in that area, they might be asissting. Also, boy scouts 14:35 Insder> Which can't really get in as it goes fast 14:35 kupo^> phos money money 14:35 tiaz> JamesG: but it is a giant pain when evreyone's talking 14:35 irbi> wtf 14:35 Beave> start kick/banning. 14:35 Insder> Yes, comm noise 14:35 tiaz> haha what will boy scouts do? 14:35 irbi> seriously 14:35 enwilson> ALL PUNDITRY GOES TO #INTERDICTOR-DIGEST 14:35 ZexGX> please 14:35 phos> i said you are laughing at a serious matter, dickhead 14:35 Mode: #interdictor[+m] by Soms 14:35 @ Soms> you guys can't seem to calm it down 14:35 mayo> baah 14:35 Mode: #interdictor[+o ICMB] by Soms 14:35 @ _Blacklite_> if you have some important/useful/whatever information, message an op and we can get you voiced or something. 14:35 @ Soms> I'm gonna release the ICBM on you all now 14:35 @ mayo> baah 14:36 @ mayo> read the topic, head over to #interdictor on irc.freenode.org 14:36 @ michaelloftis> listen, name calling, and any other rudness is not going to be tolerated. you will be booted. 14:36 @ _Blacklite_> we're trying to get information. 14:36 @ ICMB> Take all political/social commentary to #interdictor-digest. 14:36 @ Dark-Fx> 456 nicks... 14:36 @ Dark-Fx> Too many, tab complete sucks. 14:36 @ kow|wk> it was at 200 at 12:30 14:36 @ kow|wk> and it was at 150 at 11:00 14:37 @ kow|wk> did this thing get posted to Something Awful or Slashdot or something? 14:37 @ ICMB> Wired, I heard. 14:37 @ jon787> kow|wk: possibly fark 14:37 @ ICMB> SA is dead, remember? 14:37 + Toast> And theregister 14:37 @ michaelloftis> yes and no (last i knew in that order) but I'd imagine that it would be on /. somewhere by now 14:37 Mode: #interdictor[+v JamesG] by kow|wk 14:37 colin_* returns. 14:37 mayo> no .. slashdon't won't post it, it seems 14:38 + JamesG> There are 1700 or so people reading the LJ 14:38 + JamesG> That's got to be a source of the vast majority, I would think. 14:38 Mode: #interdictor[+v hfx_ben] by Amish_Hooker 14:38 Mode: #interdictor[+v solcita] by michaelloftis 14:38 @ michaelloftis> solcita tells me that it's been mentioned on wired too. 14:38 + solcita> Was on Wired frontpage, yeah. 14:38 @ kow|wk> i've heard that it was on SA briefly before it went down, as well as digg.com 14:38 @ ICMB> interdictor on wired: http://www.wired.com/news/planet/0,2782,68725,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 14:39 @ Soms> alright 14:39 @ mayo> i've just seen someone mention /. in the chan .. :) 14:39 @ kow|wk> Might want to remind people to /ignore parts and joins 14:39 @ kow|wk> how do you do that anyway, in my years of using IRC I've never had a need to 14:39 @ kow|wk> Depends on your client. Usually /IGNORE #channel -JOINS -PARTS -QUITS 14:39 @ Soms> if I release this +m and someone goes out of there way to be political/rude/or just plain pisses an op off 14:39 + solcita> Frankly I'm surprised LJ isn't being slashdotted by all of the coverage. 14:39 @ kow|wk> FYI 14:39 @ Soms> your gone 14:40 Mode: #interdictor[-m] by Soms 14:40 Yog-home> this is great.. a chat room where no one can talk.... 14:40 SimonPhotograph> Need employment in the Katrina effected/NO area. Can bring fuel and supplies. Please advise. 14:40 ColloquySucks> it's also on megatokyo 14:40 diidnath> http://www.wired.com/news/planet/0,2782,68725,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 linked to interdictor 14:40 + JamesG> LJ can handle slashdotting. 14:40 slightly> that's better 14:40 dataw0lf> Soms: you should put that in the topic. 14:40 lowmagnet> /ignore #interdictor -JOINS -PARTS -SPLITS 14:40 kupo^> -m? 14:40 Insder> Blah 14:40 slightly> /. is always very slow to update 14:40 dataw0lf> Soms: due to the growth of the channel :\ 14:40 Thaed> the lj is a paid account and being given extra support 14:40 SexyPico> dont spam 14:40 Xanieth> /ignore #interdictor -JOINS -PARTS -SPLITS 14:40 Xanieth> [17:40] -m? 14:40 @ Soms> Political / Non-information flow goes to #interdictor-digest 14:40 kupo^> -m! 14:40 crschmidt> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/national/nationalspecial/01cnd-capital.html?partner=rssnyt -- 10 billion dollar aide package 14:40 mtoddii> hello 14:40 royb> logs from the past few hours are at http://carolinacomputingsolutions.com/nola/ 14:40 Beave> please, we dont need a /.'ing. 14:40 Insder> Slashdot always gets it late 14:40 msk-sf> heh, yeah they do 14:40 baresilvermcw> So, it looks like there are a LOT of people on here...but not many actually talking...everying sitting around waiting for updates I guess. 14:40 Eimann> Yog-home: the techies should go to #interdictor-tech for the tech stuff ;) 14:40 Mode: #interdictor[+o solcita] by michaelloftis 14:40 + JamesG> Slashdot will post the news in a week, then again 2 days later. 14:40 theagent> how long till it's up on Drudge? 14:40 Textral> as it should be, bares. 14:40 lexi> what does "(unt)" state? 14:40 PatrickLAW> What's interesting to note is that most of the looters you guys see will be dead in a few days. They've been wading through flood water this entire time to carry out their looting -- disease will get them if dehydration or shooting doesn't first 14:41 mtoddii> zartan are you still there? 14:41 dtw_> It's also on BoingBoing - http://www.boingboing.net/2005/08/31/liveblog_from_new_or.html 14:41 tange1> I dont have a voice to talk, most of the time 14:41 tamara_> msk! 14:41 Yog-home> Eimann: heh :) 14:41 Textral> untranscribed, unintelligible, etc 14:41 tamara_> hi also, url2 natl guard feed, plz? 14:41 Sweeper> SimonPhotography: google for some security comapnies based in in the south, odds are they'll be helping 14:41 nathe> Patrick: eh... sam as everyone else :p 14:41 msk-sf> hey tamara 14:41 _HellMngr> texas guard is being activated to assist in new orleans 14:41 Insder> PatrickLAW: Unless they can loot some medication, which they are not 14:41 Thaed> Well the lj has hit Ireland and is being linked on blogs here 14:41 Insder> Goes hand in hand with my list of stupid stuff to loot 14:41 Tassium> http://stream.etherkiller.de:8000/no.mp3 14:41 fuel-3|away: is now known as foot 14:41 tamara_> thx 14:41 crschmidt> LJ does more than 10 times the traffic of slashdot 14:41 enwilson> Slashdot hasn't been talking about the hurricane at all... 14:41 digijohn> You know, if you were smart you could probably survive. 14:41 Comic`> I came here via the LJ as well, nothing but good wishes towards you guys 14:41 PatrickLAW> If they're not intelligent to loot something better than SHOES, I doubt they're going to go for survival gear 14:41 Textral> apparently this isn't 'stuff that matters' 14:41 mtoddii> i'm trying to find drivers from the dallas TX area to go to NO 14:41 digijohn> Loot medication, durable clothes, rubber boats, food. 14:41 Yog-home> did #interdictor get slashdotted or something ? when I went food shopping there were 80 ppl in here.. came back and there was 480 :) 14:42 msk-sf> is michael actually here? 14:42 selcouth> In Irssi: /IGNORE #interdictor -PARTS -QUITS 14:42 SexyPico> mtoddii what fore 14:42 SimonPhotograph> mtoddii - I can go to dallas - what's up? 14:42 enwilson> Very surprising, since this is their tech angle 14:42 tamara_> goddamnit, loaded it in foobar and then dbl clicked on nerf herder instead, THAT WAS UNEXPECTED. 14:42 @ solcita> I'd heard that dispatchers in Florida were being sent over to help. Seattle's probably too far away or I'd volunteer to go, too. 14:42 jonesaholic> yeah, wading through that water isn't exactly good for you 14:42 selcouth> Rather 14:42 tange1> Yog - info's been posted all across the web 14:42 irbi> Is there somewhere I can go to read exactly what's been happening? I haven't been keeping up on my current events 14:42 dataw0lf> ignore +CHAN 14:42 Bakudan> /IGNORE #interdictor -PARTS -QUITS 14:42 RevwRy> /ignore #interdictor -JOINS -PARTS -SPLITS 14:42 lexi> Eimann, probably: what does "(unt)" state? 14:42 selcouth> /ignore -channels #interdictor * JOINS PARTS QUITS 14:42 leE_> selcouth: without the -'s ... that removes the ignores :) 14:42 msk-sf> irbi: news.google.com 14:42 selcouth> Right 14:42 jonesaholic* is a microbiologist... and i'm cringing 14:42 _HellMngr> What do you need from dallas? 14:42 Bakudan> bah 14:42 ZexGX> Yog-home, wired.com'd for sure 14:42 Zaknafin> Is it still raining there? 14:42 Bakudan> i have console irc clients :( 14:42 cbarrett> selcouth: what's going on in here? 14:42 Yog-home> i kinda felt guilty going food shopping too... thinking how ppl in NOLA can't do that 14:42 Bakudan> *hate 14:42 skep> lexi: (unt) = rauschen, nicht verstaendlich 14:42 veruus> /IGNORE #interdictor NOTI 14:42 veruus> erm 14:42 lexi> skep: danke 14:43 PatrickLAW> Jones, are you familiar with the Typhoid Mary incident? 14:43 Mode: #interdictor[+l 500] by Soms 14:43 Tassium> Yog-home: Well, it doesn't do the people in NO any good to leave the food on the shelves in your town 14:43 jonesaholic> of course 14:43 PatrickLAW> Consider the people being infected in NO that will be able to seep out 14:43 Eimann> lexi: untranslated 14:43 cvE> bip? 14:43 royb> when this hits ./, we're gonna get botflooded. 14:43 RunicMourning> http://www.digg.com/technology/Flood_Waters_Can%E2%80%99t_Sink_Net_Link_ interdictor link here... kinda 14:43 jonesaholic> the heat they have down there isn't helping 14:43 InsomniacJack> Oh shit 14:43 silver_whisper> ? 14:43 tamara_> hrm, is the scanner feed so quiet? 14:43 ZexGX> whats with all the users from athena.crschmidt.net 14:43 Sweeper> we need overflow channels 14:43 SimonPhotograph> Need employment in the Katrina effected/NO area. Can bring fuel and supplies. Please advise. 14:43 carltaws> Toxic soup 14:43 Thaed> I dropped my kids to school and then found the lj I was ill, there has been no coverage how how thing really are over there on the news in ireland the uk or most of europe 14:44 crschmidt> ZexGX: that's where the web client is 14:44 Dungbeetle> tamara_: yes 14:44 Tassium> tamara_: It's been quiet the last while 14:44 crschmidt> http://crschmidt.net/irc/ 14:44 tamara_> gotcha 14:44 ZexGX> ahhh, ok 14:44 Yog-home> Tassium: true ... but still.. felt ... guilty is probably the wrong word ... sad for the NO ppl I guess 14:44 @ Soms> Overflow now setup in interdictor-2 and interdictor-3, if your in more than one of those channels, you will be kickbanned 14:44 @ ICMB> SimonPhotography, please take your advertising to #interdictor-digest 14:44 Encapsulate> tamara_: Tam? 14:44 tamara_> cappy?! 14:44 djbsquared> Soms: i was just gonna /msg you about forwarding 14:44 Encapsulate> tamara_: Yep! 14:44 Bakudan> They closed the thread on FARK - this is now my only source of info 14:44 tamara_> god, NEVER LEAVE ME. 14:44 SimonPhotograph> i'm not so much advertising, i jsut need a contact. 14:44 Dungbeetle> romance! 14:44 Insder> Soms: good plan, /. will get to it 14:44 crschmidt> Bakudan: the radio streams are silent right now 14:44 Dungbeetle> cue incidental love music. 14:45 Mode: #interdictor[+o djbsquared] by Soms 14:45 nathe> anyone know of other N0 blogs? 14:45 tamara_> argh frantically searching irssi docs on notification ignores 14:45 msk-sf> dungbeetle: hah 14:45 Bakudan> Thanks crschmidt - I can't hit them because of port blocking at work 14:45 Encapsulate> hahah 14:45 RunicMourning> radio streams? 14:45 Bakudan> So all i have is this channel 14:45 graphyx> so who is really in NO right now? 14:45 PatrickLAW> Is the scanner hitting all frequencies? 14:45 tamara_> bakudan: we will love you! 14:45 Encapsulate> tam: /ignore join part quit 14:45 royb> i wonder if they jumped frequencies? 14:45 enwilson> Last audio on the scanner was 27 after the hour, according to the timestamp on my log 14:45 Enteri> Testing 14:45 tange1> Anyone know where I can listen to a radio stream from national guard, the one I have is maxed out 14:45 roesch> tamara_: /ignore #interdictor ALL -PUBLIC -ACTIONS 14:45 malathion> awesome 14:45 tamara_> 14:45 Ignoring PARTS QUITS from join 14:45 malathion> Hello world 14:45 jmaher> tamara: /ignore #interdictor -JOINS -PARTS -SPLITS 14:45 crschmidt> tange1: check topic of #interdictor-scanner 14:45 theagent> peercast://pls/007D48952E4E7D0992252C52EAE7C1CF?tip=192.153.154.157:7144 14:45 tamara_> excellent, cappy: DIVORCE 14:45 Bakudan> Not like i'm anyone important, but its nice to know whats going on :-D 14:45 Dungbeetle> could be what that morse was about. Although the carrier dropped when the morse came on 14:45 tamara_> roesch, jmaher: thanks :) 14:45 selcouth> No no 14:45 selcouth> /ignore -channels #interdictor * JOINS PARTS QUITS 14:45 roesch> np 14:46 @ Amish_Hooker> morse code is a backup file for when the stream goes down 14:46 Encapsulate> tam: Heh, sorry /ignore #channel then stuff 14:46 emf_> e 14:46 Dave-Work> holy moses, there's a lot of people in here. 14:46 selcouth> I typed wrong the first time 14:46 Encapsulate* is the worst ever. 14:46 Insder> I foresee 500 very soon 14:46 djbsquared: is now known as djb^2 14:46 Mode: #interdictor[+l 115] by Soms 14:46 ty> gee 14:46 ty> that's a tough prediction to make 14:46 @ kow|wk> http://neworleans.craigslist.org/trd/94750088.html 14:46 @ kow|wk> rofl? 14:46 Insder> Very. 14:46 ty> tell me, what incredible leaps of logic caused you to come to that conclusion? 14:46 carltaws> the comm must of been silenced for a reason. 14:47 Crispy`> They know we're here. :P 14:47 apollo48> like everyone gave up? 14:47 PatrickLAW> What reason is that? 14:47 Enteri> I'm tryin to figure out how to ignore joins with xchat.. 14:47 cvE> oilprice at $69.45 (barrel) 14:47 djb^2: is now known as djbsquared 14:47 Bakudan> Has there been anything siunce the morse? 14:47 @ kow|wk> ty, plz, there's enough spam, don't need that 14:47 Crispy`> Ok, how come I'm ignoring but it's not working? 14:47 skep> Enten, rightclick on tab.. 14:47 @ kow|wk> Bakudan: yes, some, not much 14:47 graphyx> Packet radio goes over Morse code. 14:47 Bakudan> Maybe they went to excrypted traffic on another freq 14:47 ColloquySucks> Crispy`: /ignore #interdictor JOINS PARTS QUITS 14:47 ColloquySucks> the minus signs takes them off 14:47 Crispy`> Oh. 14:48 ColloquySucks> i don't know why that was pasted 14:48 Crispy`> Yeah, that works. :\ 14:48 theagent> /ignore #interdictor JOINS PARTS QUITS 14:48 PatrickLAW> Could you guys please take the /ignore stuff to another channel, or stick it in topic? 14:48 Dave-Work> works in bitchx too. 14:48 aaronshone: is now known as nyquist88 14:48 jonesaholic> so do we have confirmation that regular military has been sent in, or is it still NG? i keep seeing conflicting statements on lj 14:48 fxt> also, ignore CRAP ignores kicks and other such randomness 14:48 DMark> /ignore #interdictor JOINS PARTS QUITS 14:48 acerX> hi 14:48 Mode: #interdictor[+o EV1-AndrewL] by Soms 14:48 plo1> I'm suprised that it took this long for them to not let us listen in. 14:48 Mode: #interdictor[+o EV1-DanielC] by Soms 14:48 Dungbeetle> if anyone uses hydrairc, you can right click the channel and set verbosity to 2. 14:48 Crispy`> I'm still getting messages, meh. 14:48 graphyx> what about gaim? 14:48 PatrickLAW> Who, plo1? 14:48 ty> use gaim for instant messaging 14:48 ty> thats what 14:48 ty> :) 14:48 PatrickLAW> Why, rather 14:48 Dave-Work> gaim is an irc client too now? 14:48 SW-Ray> http://www.katrina-pictures.com/ 14:49 Ksosez> Hey anyone know if they need help in Houston....or anywhere in the area? Thinking about flying in.. 14:49 Shinohara> is the webcam constantly buffering for anyone else? 14:49 msk-sf> CNN shows troops 14:49 MasterNappy> gaim does it all 14:49 Dungbeetle> no idea about gaim. It's probably not got that feature 14:49 msk-sf> so yes, they're there 14:49 cvE> mhm.. 14:49 msk-sf> (for whoever was asking) 14:49 acerX> same here 14:49 crschmidt> Ksosez: probably not 14:49 lakelady> I woulnd 14:49 Dungbeetle> IRC in IM clients is often pretty shakey 14:49 MasterNappy> gaim is like trillian sorta 14:49 enwilson> gAIM and Trillian both handle IRC, if memory serves 14:49 cd-r> werd 14:49 lakelady> I wouldn't fly in unless you're with a group 14:49 Dave-Work> didn't know that. 14:49 cbarrett> enwilson: Gaim, not GAIM, never gAIM 14:49 plo1> Whoever was using the freq that the feeds are on 14:49 cbarrett> due to legal reasons. 14:49 enwilson> but I swear by dedicated clients 14:49 lakelady> they don't need random volunteers 14:49 Bakudan> I use ircii thru an ssh shell :( 14:49 plo1> there we go 14:49 TuxKamen> Aha. 14:49 apollo48> hey, some chatter 14:49 @ djbsquared> IRC can also be added easily into firefox if people need 14:49 cd-r> Anything I can do to help? 14:49 MasterNappy> irc is simple 14:50 @ kow|wk> anyone using xchat know how to ignore parts/joins? 14:50 vortexer> bakudan, use /ignore #interdictor ALL -msgs 14:50 ianneub> hey traffic on the scanner again 14:50 Dungbeetle> boy I'm lagged 14:50 enwilson> cbarrett: woops, I was thinking of mIRC and got lost 14:50 Dungbeetle> probably this stream recorder 14:50 null0> DirectNIC folks - I have BellSouth contact info and details, if you still need it. 14:50 irbi> omg fats domino is missing!? 14:50 Crispy`> use /ignore #interdictor ALL -msgs 14:50 cbarrett> heh 14:50 mml> can we can the irc client noise? 14:50 k11> xchat: right click on the channel button 14:50 Crispy`> Sorry. 14:50 digijohn> /ignore #interdictor ALL -msgs 14:50 digijohn> damn 14:50 irbi* cries 14:50 Encapsulate> null0: Spread the details to us all 14:50 msk-sf> -public too 14:50 ElectronicTeuto> We may need medical personel down here in Texas to handle the refugees, but don't just randomly head down. 14:50 @ kow|wk> Unknown arg '-msgs' ignored. 14:50 @ kow|wk> #interdictor added to ignore list. 14:50 vortexer> bakudan, use /ignore #interdictor ALL -msgs -public 14:50 @ kow|wk> didn't work 14:50 vortexer> er 14:50 tange1> I haven't heard anything on the scanner 14:50 vortexer> yah 14:50 null0> Encapsulate: No, sorry, this is for DirectNIC folks only. 14:50 @ kow|wk> are we talking xchat here? 14:50 royb> HEY THERE'S SOUND ON THE SCANNER!! 14:50 royb> haha 14:50 crschmidt> tange1: it just started again 14:50 @ kow|wk> or some other irc client? 14:51 Mode: #interdictor[+f #interdictor-2] by djbsquared 14:51 vortexer> that too :) 14:51 oi_oi_saveloy> #interdictor-scanner for transcription 14:51 kotatsu> this picture torrent is pretty insane... I have my upload and download (3 mbit) both pegged... I'm used to getting fansubs at 10K =P 14:51 ianneub> sounds like one guy trying to call another, but no response, he's probably on the wrong channel 14:51 enwilson> CNN Ticker--NO Mayor: convention center is unsafe and unsanitary, we're out of resources there 14:51 Insder> kotatsu: torrent=where? 14:51 plo1> for xchat, right click on the channel name then follow the menu to the channel name and uncheck show join part 14:51 kotatsu> sec, I'll get the link 14:51 plo1> ... 14:51 cd-r> Is there any live/working feeds out there? 14:51 @ kow|wk> plo1: you sir are my hero 14:51 @ kow|wk> thxu 14:51 oi_oi_saveloy> cd-r, see #interdictor-scanner 14:51 royb> http://216.22.26.45:8002/listen.pls 14:51 jonesaholic> meh. my feed keeps going down 14:51 Mode: #interdictor[+o djbsquared] by Soms 14:51 tange1> Anyone have a http/ftp download of the pictures, torrents are capped at 2 kbps here at my college 14:51 plo1> np 14:51 kotatsu> http://media.ofdoom.com:8080/movies/katrina.tar.gz.torrent 14:51 @ Amish_Hooker> they are working but nothing is going on 14:51 @ DR|> cd-r: http://stfunoob.com/nola/scanner.pls 14:51 lee_2> is there any news on the status - and future status - of DirectNIC - i.e. plans to take DNS hosting away from New Orleans? 14:51 Lazerdye> Does anybody still need HTML/Web help? 14:51 Bakudan: is now known as Bakudan-AFK 14:52 cd-r> ahh.. server full :-/ 14:52 carltaws> FEMA director just stated that they 'just learned of the convention center today' 14:52 royb> cd-r: keept trying. 14:52 @ DR|> mine is far from full 14:52 tamara_> tange1: there are a bunch of mirrors on interdictor's post about mirroring on pages 7 and 8, although i can't vouch for their stability 14:52 cd-r> ok 14:52 Briana> bs 14:52 _Blacklite_ changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | tangents, politics, discussion: #interdictor-digest | too much spam: /ignore #interdictor ALL -msgs | no off-topic chatter 14:52 Twon> Packet radio doesn't use morse 14:52 rafx> 2 minutes ago - the guy on cnn reporting from inside convention center said "and then you have these young teenage boys going around raping people" then wolf blitzer cut him off 14:52 royb> FEMA is retarded. 14:52 royb> and pathetic. 14:52 vortexer> raping people? wtf. 14:52 Ksosez> is there a page of what you can do? 14:52 jonesaholic> of course. wolf blitzer. 14:52 Mode: #interdictor[+i] by djbsquared 14:52 ZexGX> has anybody been recording the camera feed? 14:52 @ Amish_Hooker> http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5975&file=filename.pls 14:52 Crispy`> Oh yeah. 14:52 Crispy`> There are rapes all over the shelters. 14:52 royb> imnsho 14:52 Crispy`> And at the superdome. 14:52 @ michaelloftis> again, lets keep gov bashing stuff out of here, thanks. :) 14:52 kotatsu> Amish_Hooker: what is that for? 14:52 vortexer> inside the shelters?!? 14:52 tamara_> i can't get the damn camfeed to stay up. 14:52 kotatsu> is that the web cam? 14:53 Crispy`> Yes. 14:53 acerX> no security? 14:53 fxt> yeah there was something on nola about cracksmoking in the bathrooms at superdome too 14:53 vortexer> aren't there people protecting each other in the shelters 14:53 @ Amish_Hooker> stream cluster for audio 14:53 plo1> royb, that feed works for me 14:53 Hybridfusion> I dont know what to believe anymore. On one news channel it says the people are violent and rowdy, on another news channel it tells me they are peaceful and orderly. I am thoroughly confused 14:53 PatrickLAW> You guys have to understand, there is no law enforcement there 14:53 vortexer> i thought thats what shelters are for, to protect 14:53 royb> michaelloftis: no probelm with gov, just disappointed with fema. 14:53 vortexer> so people ar ejust watching others rape ? wth 14:53 ZexGX> Hybridfusion, depends on where maybe? 14:53 lakelady> the rapes are unconfirmed at this time 14:53 null0> michaelloftis or other DirectNIC folks - please /msg me if you still need BellSouth contact info. 14:53 @ Soms> I'd like half this room into #interdictor-2 14:53 Hybridfusion> they are talking about the superdome, sorry 14:53 cd-r> ugh.. this is a nightmare 14:53 carltaws> Hybrid: consider the source. 14:53 @ Soms> join there 14:53 lowmagnet> royb: check FEMA's budget appropriations over the last 5 years 14:53 @ Soms> and part here 14:53 enwilson> This looks recent.... 14:53 jonesaholic> crack? people have lost everything and they're smoking crack in the bathrooms... jeez 14:53 enwilson> http://www.heraldstandard.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15133786&BRD=2280&PAG=461&dept_id=480247&rfi=6 14:53 Crispy`> vortexer: You can't protect each other. :\ And I don't think the police or whatever security personel there can't control it. 14:53 @ ICMB> Please take non-news discussion to #interdictor-digest 14:53 cd-r> what scanner is this? NOPD? 14:53 Thaed> you have a group of thugs gang raping some one who is going to stuck thier neck out ,esp if they have family with them 14:53 NotJust4Breakfa> murdered rape victims are not coming forward with reports 14:53 @ michaelloftis> well....they're doing something, but they're taking their time ish....and we're stretched thin military wise. 14:53 enwilson> "Allegheny Power, which supplies electricity to most of southwestern Pennsylvania, has deployed a unit of 44 workers to help restore power to the ravaged area, in addition to 90 workers that will also join the effort, after completing work in Florida." 14:53 oi_oi_saveloy> There is a thing called diffused responsibility, whereby the large the crowd of witnesses the less likely anyone is to intervene 14:54 royb> oh, i know. we're paying for all of our budget cuts now. 14:54 theagent> waiting for the first "class action" lawsuit to be filed on behalf of the residents of New Orleans 14:54 vortexer> if i saw my neighbour getting raped i'd probably try and 'fix' it with ten other neighbours 14:54 Tanj|Work> yeah it's hard for those murder victims to come forward with reports 14:54 vortexer> but then if your neighbours become the rapists, then you have a problem 14:54 tamara_> cd-r: la natl guard 14:54 null0> oi_oi_saveloy: Google for 'Kitty Genovese'. 14:54 PatrickLAW> Easier said than done, cortex 14:54 cd-r> thanks tamara 14:54 Bin_Shady> i'm watchin tryin to drop sandbags in leveies on wdsu 14:54 Crispy`> vortexer: Doubt it, in the situation. 14:54 @ kow|wk> Please see topic, tangential topics such as: government/politics, global warming, etc., belong in #interdictor-digest. Please preserve this channel for discussion on current news/information-related discussion. 14:54 royb> i wonder if all the personel just took a long smoke break or something. :p 14:54 niftybitch> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/01/MNGGUEGGV91.DTL 14:54 royb> like, right before the audio came back. 14:55 @ mayo> read the topic, head over to #interdictor on irc.freenode.org 14:55 vortexer> sigh, this is really an example of how humans are capable of behaving 14:55 vortexer> don't need to go to third world to see a lot of things. 14:55 zac> ok voltaire 14:55 tamara_> i bet they switched to a difft freq, and these guys are the ones who didn't hear about the switch. 14:55 apollo48> tamara 14:55 cd-r> tamara_, how are we getting this feed anyway? 14:55 Mode: #interdictor[+l 450] by Soms 14:55 tamara_> what jesus, i dunno 14:55 apollo48> you might be on to something ther 14:55 carltaws> this was all predictable....... the resonse to it is whats surprising. 14:55 enwilson> WASHINGTON, Sept. 1 - Congressional leaders were preparing to rush through an aid package of about $10 billion requested by the White House for the Gulf Coast region today as President Bush made plans to visit the areas devastated by Hurricane Katrina. 14:56 cd-r> wow.. sorry :-/ 14:56 tolkachi> CD-R: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 14:56 enwilson> Senate and House officials said this afternoon that the emergency money would be approved tonight without opposition. It was not immediately clear how many lawmakers in addition to the leaders in each chamber would be present for the vote, tentatively scheduled for 10 o'clock. 14:56 tamara_> apollo48: only because they did it in a movie i watched last week :( 14:56 enwilson> and the link to the story (this is a long one) 14:56 @ kow|wk> Please see topic, any tangential discussion such as: government/politics, global warming, Lord of the Flies-isms, etc., belong in #interdictor-digest. Please preserve this channel for discussion on current news/information-related discussion. 14:56 enwilson> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/national/nationalspecial/01cnd-capital.html?ex=1283227200&en=6e43df332f088d5a&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss 14:56 tamara_> i am only smart through osmosis, it sucks. 14:56 Bin_Shady> anybody watchin the wdsu stream? 14:56 imsuxok> what's the link, bin Shady? 14:56 crschmidt> enwilson: yeah, linked that one already 14:56 Insder> Very slow download on that torrent. 14:56 jonesaholic> is congress going to vote to bring in full military? 14:57 nathe> is that a nat gas leak on cnn now? 14:57 Bin_Shady> http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx 14:57 plo1> hopfully 14:57 imsuxok> thanks 14:57 nathe> crap.. nm off screen 14:57 Textral> I think the vote is for the aid package 14:57 pel> Pres shouldn't wait for Congress. Just do it. 14:57 Insder> And no uploading, surprising as I have an okay upload (768) that I'd like to use 14:57 londarr> thanks shady 14:57 jonesaholic> i dont think they can without congressional decree 14:57 pel> No need to wait, just send the troops. No Congressman in his right mind would impeach him for sending in troops. 14:57 kotatsu> Bin_Shady: what is that? 14:57 jonesaholic> but i don't think it will get better until they do 14:57 selcouth> There are a LOT of clones in here 14:57 plo1> I'm sure some would try. 14:57 TuxKamen> Hey, we know where he is. 14:57 Mode: #interdictor[-l] by Soms 14:58 rafx> there are concerns about what drug addicts running out of drugs and suffering withdrawal might do to people around them 14:58 tamara_> honestly, why hasn't the response been faster? i'm not asking for a political rant. just - huh? is it a difficulty in getting people there? a disbelief that a situation like this could develop in the states? 14:58 Insder> There are the sandbags on the news, hmm 14:58 Mode: #interdictor[-if] by djbsquared 14:58 @ ICMB> "Fighter Wing Command" That sound questionablye. 14:58 enwilson> Live pix of the 3 ton sandbags on CNN 14:58 xcomp> tamara_: nobody thought it was going to be this bad 14:58 @ kow|wk> tamara: #interdictor-digest is a perect place for that, serious 14:58 Briana> state tried to do it on its own, failed, now national is really stepping in 14:58 apollo48> rafx: i think we've already seen what they 'might' do 14:58 lakelady> that looks like an awfully small sandbad for such a big breach 14:58 jonesaholic> the disease factor is going to get worse the longer it takes to clean this up 14:58 Mah_Skywarn> very small 14:58 rafx> i'm wondering if the N.O. govt. should provide buses to evacuate 10,000+ people BEFORE the hurricane hit 14:58 Thaed> Pretty much there was no way to get word out about how bad it was 14:59 Mah_Skywarn> they need chinooks 14:59 jonesaholic> which is why i'm for bringing in the troups 14:59 @ ICMB> rafx: last time, take it to #interdictor-digest 14:59 lakelady> gee you would think that might have been a good idea rafx 14:59 Insder> Anyone else getting Voice of Raymond Cooper on CNN 14:59 Xanieth> what the fuck "FIGHTER WING COMMANDER"? 14:59 cbarrett> rafx: nobody knew it was going to be this bad. 14:59 Textral> "Watchoo think is gonna happen, wolf?!" 14:59 Djarum> Fighter Wing Commander? 14:59 lakelady> yes I am 14:59 Mode: #interdictor[+m] by kow|wk 14:59 @ kow|wk> sorry guys 14:59 @ kow|wk> one last time 14:59 @ Dark-Fx> cbarrett: lots of people predicted it to be worse 15:00 @ ICMB> I'm pretty sure that name is "Wisnewski", crschmidt 15:00 @ kow|wk> discussion on things like government/politics, preparation stuff, etc., that is a DIGESTION of older news 15:00 @ kow|wk> while perfectly valid 15:00 @ kow|wk> has been seperated from this channel 15:00 @ kow|wk> #interdictor-digest 15:00 @ mayo> read the topic, head over to #interdictor on irc.freenode.org 15:00 Soms changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | tangents, politics, discussion: #interdictor-digest | too much spam: /ignore #interdictor ALL -msgs | Message _Blacklite_ for voice 15:00 @ kow|wk> please keep this channel clean to keep the signal:noise ratio down, a lot of people bring new news, information, and clarifications/discussion of the scanner here 15:01 @ EV1-DanielC> can someone please send me a link for images for me to mirror or any videos 15:01 @ kow|wk> it's hectic, there's 450+ people here, i know it's not possible to properly siphon EVERYTHING off, but please do your part to help. there's no official power structure here, we're just trying to make it work 15:01 + Knobee> anything since 5:00? 15:01 Mode: #interdictor[-m] by kow|wk 15:01 @ michaelloftis> bear with us folks :) this is a zoo and we're trying to keep it civil in here. 15:01 @ Soms> Ok one person who wants to monitor MSNBC pm me 15:01 + Knobee> (did anyone ever answer Fuel 3?) 15:01 @ Soms> one person who wants to monitor CNN pm me 15:01 @ ICMB> Knobee: Yes. 15:01 @ Soms> One person who wants to monitor Foxnews PM me 15:01 oi_oi_saveloy> Topic this as FAQ? http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 15:01 Neovanglist> Soms: you going to do streams? 15:01 enwilson> MSNBC: Confirmed death toll in Mississippi up to 126 15:01 Wynona> anyone over here seeing CNN showing people posturing in the convention center? 15:01 Graylight> good idea Soms 15:02 Mode: #interdictor[+v msk-sf] by Soms 15:02 + hfx_ben> est'd 15K at convention center 15:02 msk-sf* monitoring CNN 15:02 Neovanglist> Soms: I can help distribute video data if you need 15:02 @ Soms> msk-sf is monitoring cnn 15:02 + Knobee> posturing? 15:02 Tetraboy> Person on CNN just said he hopes they don't send national guard. 15:02 thecapitalizt> remind me why 15:02 Venge|work> lol 15:02 @ colin_> We should probably set this channel to +m. 15:02 The_Tick> EV1-DanielC: trying to locate for you, gimme sec 15:02 _HellMngr> National Guard is there, and more are on the way. 15:02 Mode: #interdictor[+v theagent] by Soms 15:02 mith_> hello all 15:02 plo1> what does fuel 3 mean? 15:02 @ Soms> TheAgent on fox 15:02 Tetraboy> They should send someone with a bullhorn to tell people whats going on. 15:02 rafx> cbarrett: nobody knew it would be this bad? what about this dated last year (and the warnings this spring that 2005 would have hurricane season not seen in decades) 15:02 + msk-sf> CNN just showed a helicopter drop a single sandbag into the levee break 15:02 rafx> http://www.colorado.edu/hazards/o/nov04/nov04c.html 15:02 mayo> colin_: yeah 15:02 @ Soms> fuel 3 is fuel convoy three 15:02 plo1> thanks 15:02 + hfx_ben> Fuel 3 is a very persistent callsign 15:02 + Knobee> plo1 -- the callsign of fuel distribution #3 15:02 mith_> is anyone else listening to the scanner? 15:02 Insder> I am./ 15:02 ZexGX* is 15:03 crschmidt> peercast link, anyone? 15:03 + theagent> everyone is listening to the scanner 15:03 + theagent> peercast://pls/007D48952E4E7D0992252C52EAE7C1CF?tip=192.153.154.157:7144 15:03 mith_> lol 15:03 Mode: #interdictor[+mz] by djbsquared 15:03 @ ICMB> It's in the twiki 15:03 + Knobee> god I love seeing my IP addresses in URLs. 8-) 15:03 @ djbsquared> if you have anything important to say, the Ops can still read it 15:03 @ djbsquared> if it is worth being said to everyone you will be voiced 15:03 + msk-sf> CNN now just doing a general recap 15:03 + theagent> FOX covering sand bag placement in levee 15:03 @ ICMB> Soms, I think that's the way to go. 15:03 @ Soms> PatrickLAW, we have someone on foxnews and cnn 15:04 @ Soms> we need someone on msnbc 15:04 @ ICMB> Soms: We should also get WWL 15:04 @ Soms> and since you like being direct 15:04 Mode: #interdictor[+oo The_Tick selcouth] by djbsquared 15:04 @ Soms> your on MSNBC 15:04 @ math> hello? 15:04 + msk-sf> i have the video feed back from interdictor now too 15:04 Mode: #interdictor[+o crschmidt] by Soms 15:04 @ math> oh. 15:04 @ math> heh. 15:04 @ ICMB> YEs, plo1 15:04 @ crschmidt> I'm going to do clarifications on scanner stuff here 15:04 @ Soms> alright then 15:04 @ mayo> read the topic, head over to #interdictor on irc.freenode.org 15:04 Mode: #interdictor[-m] by Soms 15:04 Mode: #interdictor[+m] by Soms 15:04 + theagent> FOX covering AstroDome arrivals 15:05 @ Soms> msk-sf is on cnn 15:05 + Knobee> msk-sf? 15:05 msk-sf* here 15:05 @ michaelloftis> theagent tells us fox is covering astrodome arrivals. 15:05 @ ICMB> We don't need an ongoing commentary of the channels, just when they have something new. 15:05 @ ICMB> Soms: you might want to have someone assigned to update the Wiki with news. 15:05 + msk-sf> allrighty 15:05 @ ICMB> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 15:06 @ ICMB> Joint Operation Control Center, I believe. 15:06 @ Soms> Joint Operations Control Center 15:06 + msk-sf> CNN showing live footage at the airport 15:06 + msk-sf> C130s, helicopters 15:06 + Knobee> need an "acronym authority" 15:06 + msk-sf> using baggage loaders to move people around 15:06 @ crschmidt> Knobee: give me a link to a wiki page, and i'll make it 15:06 _Blacklite_ changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | tangents, politics, discussion: #interdictor-digest | if you have info, message an op for voice. 15:06 @ Soms> ICMB pm me 15:06 + msk-sf> showing a fleet of various choppers being used as transports from downtown 15:06 + Knobee> crschmidt which wiki? 15:06 @ crschmidt> Knobee: I don't care, but I know most of the scanner stuff now 15:07 Mode: #interdictor[-o crschmidt] by crschmidt 15:07 @ ICMB> We have a WIki page. http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 15:07 + Knobee> that's a good one.. 15:07 + theagent> FOX reporting Governor of Texas ready to accept any and all ... Texas will accomodate 15:08 @ ICMB> Do not put phone numbers/etc from the scanner in to IRC. 15:09 ICMB changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | tangents, politics, discussion: #interdictor-digest | if you have info, message an op for voice. | http://katrina.kelley.ca 15:09 @ The_Tick> EV1-DanielC: i haven't found any images or vids, but apparently there is a torrent floating around 15:09 @ ICMB> [1]diclophis: Check the Wiki http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 15:10 + msk-sf> CNN reports con-air 737s being sent to new orleans, which can move 100s of people at a time 15:10 + msk-sf> from Baton Rouge 15:10 + theagent> FOX showing video of inmates located on bridge 15:11 Mode: #interdictor[+o mathx] by _Blacklite_ 15:11 + msk-sf> CNN ticker says bush will be visiting tomorrow 15:11 @ mayo> read the topic, head over to #interdictor on irc.freenode.org 15:11 @ selcouth> Mayor Ray Nagin, in issuing his dire plea in a statement to CNN, said: .Right now we are out of resources at the convention center and don.t anticipate enough buses. Currently the convention center is unsanitary and unsafe and we are running out of supplies for 15,000 to 25,000 people.. 15:12 JamesG: is now known as JamesG_Out 15:12 + theagent> FOX uses terminology "Cesspool of Death" 15:12 Mode: #interdictor[+v rcalise] by _Blacklite_ 15:12 Mode: #interdictor[+v hoodah] by _Blacklite_ 15:12 @ ICMB> Take all non-news discussion to #interdictor-digest 15:12 @ selcouth> Guy-Smiley> The Oakwood Mall is on fire reports WWL 15:13 Mode: #interdictor[+v skep] by _Blacklite_ 15:13 + hoodah> need the army in there to clean the scum looters out shoot them dead 15:13 @ ICMB> Take all non-news to #interdictor-digest, first time is a warning, second time is a ban 15:13 Mode: #interdictor[+v Guy-Smiley] by _Blacklite_ 15:14 Mode: #interdictor[-v hoodah] by _Blacklite_, The_Tick 15:14 @ djbsquared> ICMB: only we can see everything, so it doesnt matter if they keep talking, because they cant talk to eachother 15:14 + theagent> FOX reports: Forensic specialist estimates 3000+ deaths 15:14 @ djbsquared> ICMB: it just looks +m to them 15:14 Mode: #interdictor[+v ionetworks] by _Blacklite_ 15:14 @ The_Tick> jonesaholic: to #interdictor-digest 15:15 + skep> WWL-TV: The Oakwood Mall is on fire. Emergency crews are on the scene, but water pressure is so low, firefighters are having a tough time keeping the blaze under country. 15:15 _Blacklite_ changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | tangents, politics, discussion, questions: #interdictor-digest | this channel is info-only. | http://katrina.kelley.ca 15:15 @ The_Tick> jonesaholic: what's the question? 15:15 + ionetworks> So wait...we can't talk about the situation in here? 15:15 @ The_Tick> ionetworks: just news please 15:15 Mode: #interdictor[+o mathx] by Soms 15:15 + msk-sf> CNN on commercials, i'll brb 15:15 @ colin_> ionetworks: Discussion/chatter goes to #interdictor-digest. 15:16 Mode: #interdictor[+o laotan] by mathx 15:17 + theagent> Fox News reports: Decomposing bodies don't cause disease. Disease will be caused by vermin after the fact... 15:17 @ djbsquared> Wynona: check the wiki in the topic 15:17 @ selcouth> Does anyone have info on the hospital? 15:17 @ _Blacklite_> discussion in #interdictor-digest, yes -- if you're voiced, a bit of commentary is fine, sure 15:17 + Guy-Smiley> Times-Picayune: Reacting to reports of limited disturbances among Hurricane Katrina victims at a large Baton Rouge shelter, Louisiana State University Chancellor Sean O’Keefe has ordered doors locked at LSU buildings and urged students and others to remain inside. 15:17 @ _Blacklite_> URLs are good here too 15:17 @ _Blacklite_> everyone loves URLs 15:17 @ djbsquared> 18:17:37 < silver_whisper> Fox news warns about tuburculosis, infection from contact with water. 15:18 Mode: #interdictor[+v silver_whisper] by _Blacklite_ 15:18 Mode: #interdictor[+v silver_whisper] by The_Tick 15:18 @ mathx> tuberculosis from Water!? 15:18 @ djbsquared> mathx: no, from the waste in the water 15:18 Mode: #interdictor[+v zac] by djbsquared 15:18 @ solcita> ugh, tb. that's just the first of our worries, really. 15:19 @ ICMB> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_bodies_and_health_risks 15:19 _Blacklite_ changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | tangents, politics, discussion, questions: #interdictor-digest | this channel is info-only. mention sources. | http://katrina.kelley.ca 15:19 @ solcita> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page#Louisiana_Live_Scanner_Feeds 15:19 @ mathx> lakelady PLEASE read the /topic 15:19 @ solcita> Please, guys, check the wiki. It's all there. 15:19 @ mathx> all info flows from the first url in topic 15:19 + theagent> comms have gone eerily silent again 15:20 @ solcita> I'm thinking they've moved to more car-to-car. That or the repeaters are going down. 15:20 + theagent> shit is gonna hit the fan when the sun goes down again... 15:20 + Guy-Smiley> yeah :( 15:21 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Can the city be saved? 15:21 @ ICMB> MSNBC ticker: current estimates are that critical breach could be repaired by the end of the day. Army Corps of Engineers say it could be 3-6 months to drain once the levees are sound... 15:21 Mode: #interdictor[+v enwilson] by The_Tick 15:21 + hfx_ben> Still estimating $25B insurance claims 15:21 + Guy-Smiley> WWL-TV: Robert M. Gates , President of Texas A&M University, said the Galveston campus will welcome 1,000 displaced students for up to one year. They will be charged the state minimum for tuition. 15:22 @ michaelloftis> Guy-Smiley WWL-TV: Robert M. Gates , President of Texas A&M University, said the Galveston campus will welcome 1,000 displaced students for up to one year. They will be charged the state minimum for tuition. 15:22 @ The_Tick> michaelloftis: he's voiced 15:22 @ michaelloftis> oops :) 15:22 @ colin_> If there are any ops in #interdictor-digest here, could you give me ops there? 15:22 @ The_Tick> Soms: around? 15:22 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Timothy Kusky PhD supports moving NO away from historical past 15:23 + Guy-Smiley> :) 15:23 s|beta: is now known as beta 15:23 + Knobee> peercast feed is back up -- sorry for interruption. 15:23 @ Soms> The_Tick 15:23 @ The_Tick> Soms: it was for -digest 15:25 @ selcouth> pel> The citizens of Baton Rouge have basically been told to stay in their homesWnot to go out and not even to sit out on their porches 15:25 @ ICMB> Please see the WIki page for all links: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 15:25 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Interview with evacuee 15:26 + msk-sf> FAA: new orleans approach control restored, but restricted to relief aircraft only; still only one runway open at louis armstrong 15:26 + skep> lol..fuel3 15:26 + Knobee> good old fuel3 15:26 + theagent> He's ALIVE! 15:26 + theagent> thank God for air support 15:26 Mode: #interdictor[+o hfx_ben] by Amish_Hooker 15:27 @ colin_> rafx: Oh, hell. 15:27 + enwilson> The FEMA press conference around 5et said the power was back on at the Baton Rouge airport, too... 15:28 @ ICMB> btw... Tenn. gov bredeson is giving free tuition to any displaced students to Tenn. universities 15:28 + msk-sf> CNN says army corps of engineers estimates 3-6 months to drain all the floodwater 15:28 Mode: #interdictor[+v GrapedFert] by _Blacklite_ 15:28 @ _Blacklite_> GrapedFert> FEMA interview PBS News Hour NOW 15:28 + Knobee> I think that Fuel Mobile 3 is tuned to the wrong freq. 15:30 @ selcouth> speakit> http://neworleans.indymedia.org/ breaking news 15:30 + theagent> coming to a stream near you, Fuel3. Based on the Halo game engine just like Red vs. Blue.... 15:31 @ The_Tick> < speakit> http://neworleans.indymedia.org/ breaking news 15:31 zac* hits The_Tick with a hammer. 15:31 + Knobee> 15:31 + Guy-Smiley> (AP): House Speaker Dennis Hastert says it makes no sense to spend (b) billions of dollars to rebuild New Orleans, which is seven feet under sea level. 15:31 + Guy-Smiley> Hastert, in a transcript supplied by the newspaper, said there was no question that the people of New Orleans would rebuild their city, but noted that federal insurance and other federal aid was involved. 15:31 + Guy-Smiley> Hastert's press secretary, Ron Bonjean, said Hastert was not suggesting New Orleans should be abandoned or relocated. 15:31 + Guy-Smiley> Hastert announced today that the House, currently at the end of its summer break, would return for an emergency session tomorrow to approve some $10 billion in federal aid for hurricane victims. 15:31 @ Soms> /ignore -channels #interdictor * PARTS JOINS QUITS 15:31 + enwilson> Brian Willams says NBC Evening News is doing an hour in certain areas, relocated to Metarie 15:32 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: 80% of city (NO) under water 15:32 @ _Blacklite_> Remember if you're going to mention some news, URLs are good 15:32 @ kow|wk> alligators, jesus 15:33 @ djbsquared> kow|wk: what? alligators and jesus? 15:33 @ kow|wk> jesus has been spotted in biloxi 15:33 + GrapedFert> FEMA's Brown: "5 trailers of food/water heading to super dome this evening" 15:33 @ _Blacklite_> unfortunately, there are reports of alligators and looters in biloxi, ms 15:33 @ kow|wk> he complained though because he prefers stripes 15:34 @ hfx_ben> the Convention Center is gonna leave CNN's Chris Lawrence politicized 15:34 + silver_whisper> AP article earlier today warned of alligators seeking shelter in the same places humans are. Trying to find link... 15:34 + Guy-Smiley> NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue says it's unlikely the Saints will play in New Orleans this season after the devastation Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath inflicted on the city. 15:34 Mode: #interdictor[+v Peeloo] by _Blacklite_ 15:34 @ kow|wk> Peeloo: There was an article in popular mechanics published on (get this) 9/11/2001 discussing this possibility 15:34 @ _Blacklite_> http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/report/2004/hsc-planning-scenarios-jul04_10.htm 15:34 @ _Blacklite_> scenario planned one year ago 15:35 + msk-sf> CNN says 24 buses have arrived at the houston astrodome 15:35 + enwilson> NBC: Some children are arriving at the pickup points completely alone 15:35 + msk-sf> armada of paramedics arriving on scene 15:36 + msk-sf> "looks like game day" 15:37 + Guy-Smiley> AUSTIN (AP): Texas has agreed to accept another 25,000 Hurricane Katrina evacuees -- and they'll be heading for Dallas. Officials earlier announced refugee groups estimated at 25,000 apiece will be housed in Houston and San Antonio. 15:37 + Peeloo> From "National Planning Scenario": Recovery - Hazardous materials will contaminate many areas, and decontamination and site restoration will be a major challenge. 15:37 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports:3/4 of 450,000 residents evac'd before storm 15:37 @ kow|wk> from http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/hurricane_katrina: "Hospitals are trying to evacuate," said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan, spokesman at the city emergency operations center. "At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in people are shooting at them. There are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, `You better come get my family.'" 15:38 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Baton Rouge Mayor will not tolerate thugs coming from NO 15:38 @ ICMB> The livejournal has been updated in the last 15 minutes: http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/ 15:38 Mode: #interdictor[+v zinger] by _Blacklite_ 15:38 @ _Blacklite_> Mayor Ray Nagin, in issuing his dire plea in a statement to CNN, said: .Right now we are out of resources at the convention center and don.t anticipate enough buses. Currently the 15:38 @ _Blacklite_> convention center is unsanitary and unsafe and we are running out of supplies for 15,000 to 25,000 people.. 15:38 Mode: #interdictor[+v inter94] by _Blacklite_ 15:38 @ _Blacklite_> Dr. Michael Bellew says someone shooting at them while they were trying to evacuate patients from Charity Hospital 15:39 @ hfx_ben> we're gonna need a channel list 15:39 @ The_Tick> < royb> hey, i have logs being uploaded to http://carolinacomputingsolutions.com/nola/ now 15:39 @ The_Tick> < royb> they update once per minute 15:39 @ kow|wk> nice job royb 15:39 @ The_Tick> < royb> logs from #interdictor, #interdictor-digest, and #interdictor-scanner 15:40 Mode: #interdictor[+v royb] by The_Tick 15:40 + royb> this +z mode thing is weird. 15:40 @ The_Tick> you'll get used to it 15:40 Mode: #interdictor[-zg] by Soms 15:40 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Bush 41 and Clinton to raise PRIVATE donations for relief effort 15:40 @ Soms> er 15:40 Mode: #interdictor[+zg] by Soms 15:40 _Blacklite_ changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | summaries: #interdictor-digest | spam & chat: #interdictor-chat | this channel is info-only. mention sources. | http://katrina.kelley.ca 15:40 _Blacklite_ changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | summaries: #interdictor-digest | spam & chat: #interdictor-chat | this channel is info-only. mention sources. 15:40 @ ICMB> http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=3793457 15:41 + royb> no i won't. :p once this is over i'll go back to my normal hole in the internets. 15:41 + rcalise> NBC says Fed Gov is sending $10bn to NOLA for relief 15:42 + skep> AUSTIN (AP): Texas has agreed to accept another 25,000 Hurricane Katrina evacuees -- and they'll be heading for Dallas. Officials earlier announced refugee groups estimated at 25,000 apiece will be housed in Houston and San Antonio. 15:43 @ kow|wk> heh, maybe in those huge spacious areas between everything :p 15:43 @ selcouth> PatrickLAW> Microsoft is matching all donations to 501c3 dollar for dollar, 100%, in addition to a $1M direct donation 15:43 @ The_Tick> PatrickLAW: what's your source on that? 15:43 + silver_whisper> Businessweek: Scientists warned for years of NO's vulnerability - http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=66&ncid=66&e=3&u=/bw/20050901/bs_bw/nf20050912860db094 15:45 @ _Blacklite_> Foamy the Squirrel's hurricane edition, wherein he has more sense than the President and FEMA and the rest of the authorities: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/262703 15:45 @ DR|> we now have a url catcher configured, so any news urls and such posted in this channel will appear at http://nolaurls.stfunoob.com/ 15:45 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Interview with Former Senator John Breaux (D) and Congressman Bobby Jindal (R) 15:46 + theagent> Sun sets and the "Defender" comms start to get busy 15:47 Nite_Sleep: is now known as Nite_Hawk 15:47 + enwilson> Has the LSU situation been mentioned lately? 15:47 @ Nite_Hawk> heya guys, back from the dead (ie work)... 15:47 + Peeloo> who is defender comms on scanner? 15:47 + enwilson> http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_09.html#075925 15:47 @ EV1-DanielC> http://ev1helps.net:8000 --- 10000 listeners 15:47 @ kow|wk> hm 15:48 @ EV1-DanielC> (slots available) 15:48 @ kow|wk> hope these 'bogus' people aren't listening to this cast 15:48 + Guy-Smiley> Official sunset will be at 7:22 PM local time 15:48 + Guy-Smiley> in NO 15:48 @ Soms> GMT-6 15:49 @ Dark-Fx> EV1-DanielC: I've got the direcNIC pictures mirrored, but I don't have enough bandwidth here to host them for all these people to look. 15:49 @ EV1-DanielC> One moment. I'm starting to mirror them... 15:49 @ Nite_Hawk> mirrordot? 15:50 @ EV1-DanielC> I'm going on a break for a smoke. I have to modify the listener count to a lower # to prevent full saturation of the 100megabit connection 15:50 + theagent> does anyone else think Command and Control sounds kind of f*d based on this conversation? 15:50 @ michaelloftis> rafx "Venezuela is offering humanitarian aid and fuel." - http://www.wdsu.com/news/4923990/detail.html 15:50 @ Dark-Fx> EV1-DanielC: alright, I've got a meeting to go to in 10 minutes... 15:50 @ kow|wk> theagent: bunch of different departments trying to organize at once, expect it 15:50 + Peeloo> what's an éet mission" on scanner? 15:51 + Peeloo> "et mission" 15:51 @ EV1-DanielC> set to 2K 15:51 @ kow|wk> i don't think anyone knows, peeloo 15:51 @ kow|wk> can anyone find out? 15:51 @ ICMB> Probably emergency transport. 15:52 + enwilson> Hurricane video from Gulfport on NBC 15:52 + enwilson> This looks like the one on MSNBC earlier 15:52 @ michaelloftis> channel is set in semi-mod mode...if you guys aren't +v/+o then only we hear what you say. we'll pass back things as fast as we can. trying to keep this informational here 15:52 Mode: #interdictor[+o _Blacklite_] by djbsquared 15:53 @ kow|wk> do not repeat phone numbers listed on the scanner 15:53 @ kow|wk> or you will be kicked 15:53 + rcalise> Live MSNBC and BBC Online News both stating that Bush is visiting affected areas on Friday, not Thursday. 15:53 @ EV1-DanielC> sorry... had to reload the server to enable the limits 15:54 + theagent> afk for 5 minutes 15:54 @ djbsquared> well, its already thursday, and he definitley was not htere today 15:54 @ ICMB> semi-new URL - http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-superdome1sep01,0,4489032.story?coll=la-home-headlines 15:54 Mode: #interdictor[+o Nox] by michaelloftis 15:54 Mode: #interdictor[+v Mrdini] by _Blacklite_ 15:54 Mode: #interdictor[+v Mrdini] by The_Tick 15:54 @ Nite_Hawk> Heya Nox... 15:54 + Mrdini> I'll pass on the +v :P was just passing on an URL from another channel 15:54 @ ICMB> pinkish: Definitely this one. 15:55 @ _Blacklite_> a +v doesn't mean you're forced to speak. it just means that you can be heard by other people if you do. 15:55 @ _Blacklite_> it basically means we think you're probably not an asshat. 15:55 + Mrdini> heh 15:55 + Mrdini> np 15:55 @ The_Tick> basically 15:56 + msk-sf> Washington Post reports donations from private and corporate topping $100M 15:56 @ solcita> hey pink 15:56 + Guy-Smiley> yay, i'm not an asshat 15:56 @ djbsquared> well, someone has to donate, its not like any other countries rushed to help 15:57 @ solcita> Sounds like "hessler base" or something. 15:57 @ solcita> Yeah, a bit. 15:57 @ EV1-DanielC> Mirrors of images: http://mirror1.ev1helps.net/ 15:58 @ solcita> ah, echo base 15:58 @ djbsquared> ops are here 15:58 @ Nite_Hawk> I'm here 15:58 @ djbsquared> Dungbeetle: does it look like we dont need it? 15:58 + enwilson> on NBC: 27 preemie babies were flown out of Nola to safety...not all parents have been contacted 15:58 @ ICMB> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 15:58 Mode: #interdictor[+v pinkish] by solcita 15:59 @ _Blacklite_> conversation to a minimum guys, we have -chat and such for that 15:59 @ kow|wk> Dungbeetle: please understand that 'official lines' and the lines of people here don't always mesh, and in this case, more often than not don't 15:59 + rcalise> MSNBC ticker reports one of the levee breaches should be repaird by day's end today. 16:00 + rcalise> repaired* 16:00 + msk-sf> CNN reports food drops beginning at the convention center 16:00 @ ICMB> It appears the rumors of unrest in Baton Rouge is largely exaggerated. It's reported that the aggressive police presence was to ward off widespread problems. http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=16560 16:01 + pinkish> 'ze wiki is linked 16:01 @ djbsquared> CNBC: Infrastructure in better condition than once thought 16:01 @ The_Tick> Jack-HP: links would be helpful 16:01 @ kow|wk> ICMB: interesting, a man claiming to be a BR resident said that the problems were being 'covered up' 16:01 @ ICMB> Just reporting what I see, plus cites when possible. ;) 16:02 @ The_Tick> Jack-HP: post link when you can and we'll relay it 16:02 + enwilson> We're getting the full hour of NBC...I'll keep you posted on any new info... 16:02 @ hfx_ben> Bob: the voice of the proletariat 16:02 + theagent> <--- back 16:02 @ hfx_ben> Too bad Indymedia wasn't on the scene. 16:02 @ solcita> I'd go out to monitor one of the TV channels, but that'd mean getting disconnected from everywhere and having to reconnect, and that's too much troubl. 16:03 @ ICMB> GOod idea, PatrickLAW 16:03 @ selcouth> PatrickLAW> Would it be possible for people to add what network they're reporting from to their nick? If they have a dedicated TV channel 16:03 @ selcouth> Yea 16:03 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: 16:03 @ ICMB> Please find links to scanners, images, etc on the Wiki http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 16:03 Alucard256: is now known as help 16:03 + enwilson> I tend to flip back and forth, depending... 16:03 @ kow|wk> did you know that the blog is linked to on boingboing.net? 16:03 help: is now known as Alucard256 16:03 Space-Man-Spiff: is now known as Spiff 16:04 Mode: #interdictor[+v PatrickLAW] by The_Tick 16:04 @ ICMB> I thought someone could use this site if they have not found it already: http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html 16:04 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: 3000 troops now patrolling 16:04 + pinkish> k, I'm out. 16:04 Mode: #interdictor[+v luvpeebo] by The_Tick 16:04 + luvpeebo> Great text info, fast coming, too. Has some road info, occasionally. 16:05 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Coast Guard rescue 3000+ 16:05 @ ICMB> ICMB: I'm told my someone on #katrina at EFnet that the media has been told not to report violence in Baton Rouge to prevent panic. That he is there and witnessed carjacking. 16:06 @ ICMB> Well, we'll have to wait for firm news reports. So far they seem to be saying all the earlier reports were exaggerated, but I'm not there, so I can't say which is true. 16:06 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: 20 FEMA buses just arriving at AstroDome 16:06 @ ICMB> What 16:06 @ The_Tick> for those new to the channel, +o/+v can see your comments, but general discussion to #interdictor-chat please 16:06 + rcalise> CNN reports attack(s) on hospital personnel in an attempt to force their way onto medivac copter 16:06 + rcalise> (in NO) 16:07 Mode: #interdictor[+v Greylight] by _Blacklite_ 16:07 @ ICMB> What's the latest people have heard on the water level? Last I heard, the lake and city were moer or less even in water level, and that the lake was actually getting lower. 16:07 Mode: #interdictor[+v rafx] by _Blacklite_ 16:07 + msk-sf> 2800 national guard on scene, 1400 a day arriving 16:07 + msk-sf> ICMB: confirm, same report 16:08 @ ICMB> Please check the http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page 16:09 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: 90,000 square miles designated disaster area 16:09 + enwilson> NBC report from the Convention Center: there's no authority there, no support, dead people surrounding the building (including 2 babies) 16:09 + Greylight> CNN: Oakwood mall "burning to the ground" 16:09 @ ICMB> "A military helicopter tried to land at the convention center several times to drop off food and water. But the rushing crowd forced the choppers to back off. Troopers then tossed the supplies to the crowd from 10 feet off the ground and flew away." http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory/3334538 16:09 Mode: #interdictor[+v Wynona] by The_Tick 16:10 + enwilson> Michael Brown of FEMA on NBC with Brian Williams 16:10 @ SCSi^> holy shit, 520 ppl in here? 16:10 @ djbsquared> StuntMonkey: wathc the language 16:10 @ EV1-DanielC> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net/ 16:10 @ ICMB> More info about Baton Rouge: http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050901/NEWS/50901017 16:11 mayo> SCSi^: neat, huh? :) 16:11 @ Teriander> what did CNN say? 16:11 @ SCSi^> yeah, neat 16:11 @ kow|wk> Interdictor blog updated 5 minutes ago. 16:12 @ EV1-DanielC> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net/ -- Audio: http://mirror1.ev1helps.net:8000 16:12 + msk-sf> CNN reporting that they're taking fire at charity hospital during evac attempt 16:12 + rcalise> CNN reports Rescue worker(s) state that some rescue operations via boat are being suspended due to the danger involved. Federal official denies. 16:12 + msk-sf> (audio's broken) 16:12 Soms changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | summaries: #interdictor-digest | spam & chat: #interdictor-chat | this channel is info-only. mention sources. | Media PM an op 16:12 @ ICMB> Plenty. 16:14 + Guy-Smiley> CNN Reports that someone in the convention center says dead bodies have been seen inside and outside the facility. 16:14 + theagent> Where is all the foreign aid? 16:14 + theagent> Not that we need it... but would be nice to hear from others 16:14 @ The_Tick> Pretty_Generic: linkage? 16:14 + Greylight> FOX: Finally.... George Bush calls for conservation of gas. 16:14 @ Soms> ratman register your nick and pm me 16:14 + msk-sf> venezuela and canada were active, i forget what they were doing though 16:14 @ hfx_ben> Man EOC has been lax with radio attention 16:14 @ mathx> guys move chatter to the -chat channel please. 16:15 @ mathx> anyone know what this feed is http://www.radioreference.com:8080/lspbtr.m3u 16:15 @ Soms> Canada has provided us with search and rescue 16:15 + enwilson> Update from WXII 12 Winston-Salem, North Carolina telethon: $492,223 raised today for disaster relief from local community 16:15 + skep> theagent, WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than 20 countries, from allies Germany and Japan to prickly Venezuela and poor Honduras, have offered to help the United States cope with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. 16:15 @ Soms> and the canadian coast guard 16:15 @ djbsquared> Imperfect: do you have a source? 16:15 mayo> anyone have the status on the uplinks? 16:15 @ The_Tick> 18:15 < Bakudan-AFK> http://news.uky.edu/news/display_article.php?artid=532 16:15 @ The_Tick> < Bakudan-AFK> University of Kentucky is offering waivers on tuition, fees, housing, and dining to refugees 16:16 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv Alucard256 baltakatei besonen] by Teriander 16:16 @ mathx> MagiusMoo: whats that 16:16 @ hfx_ben> hello caston ... most chat on #interdictor-digest 16:16 @ mathx> mcsmurf: yeah its a split stereo feed 16:16 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv Alucard256 baltakatei besonen] by Teriander 16:16 @ ICMB> hfx_ben: #interdictor-chat you mean 16:16 @ djbsquared> Imperfect: alright 16:16 @ kow|wk> hfx_ben: correction, #interdictor-chat. digest is a read-only digest for news now :) 16:16 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv beta bill Botunda] by Teriander 16:16 + Greylight> update to interdictor livejournal 16:16 @ michaelloftis> media requests need to be funneled through OPS so if you're media and have requests PM an op, we'll get to you. :) thanks! 16:16 @ hfx_ben> what's wrong with this synatx ... worked here but not in -digest ... /ignore #interdictor-digest -joins -quits 16:17 @ djbsquared> Imperfect: if you can get one, ill give you voice 16:17 @ djbsquared> hfx_ben: what client? 16:17 + Wynona> WWL feed is reporting talking to helicopter pilot who confirms being shot at while trying to get into hospital 16:17 @ hfx_ben> mIRC 16:17 + royb> All logs from #interdictor* channels are available at http://www.carolinacomputingsolutions.com/nola/ updated every 5 minutes 16:17 @ hfx_ben> hey ... now I'm seeing joins and quits here again ... odd 16:17 Mode: #interdictor[+v StuntMonkey] by _Blacklite_ 16:17 @ djbsquared> hfx_ben: try /ignore #interdictor * JOINS PARTS QUITS 16:17 @ hfx_ben> k tu 16:17 @ djbsquared> StuntMonkey: please give sources if you have them 16:18 @ hfx_ben> /ignore #interdictor * JOINS PARTS QUITS 16:18 _Blacklite_ changed the topic of #interdictor to: http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | summaries & questions: #interdictor-digest | spam & chat: #interdictor-chat | this channel is info-only. mention sources. | Media PM an op 16:18 + Wynona> WWL says the doctors would not come out of the hospital to be evacuated 16:18 @ hfx_ben> *blink* 16:18 @ hfx_ben> ahhh tu compimp 16:19 Mode: #interdictor[+v Bakudan-AFK] by The_Tick 16:19 Mode: #interdictor[+v Bakudan-AFK] by _Blacklite_ 16:19 @ The_Tick> can you repost that Bakudan-AFK? 16:19 @ _Blacklite_> [16:18] Gas shortages across the US >.< 16:19 @ _Blacklite_> [16:18] http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/01/katrina/main810903.shtml 16:19 + StuntMonkey> djbsqua 16:19 Bakudan-AFK: is now known as Bakudan 16:19 + Greylight> CNN .... reporter giving a politician a real beatdown.... 16:19 + StuntMonkey> cnn video feed 16:19 + Greylight> CNN: anderson cooper 16:20 + StuntMonkey> ffs can we join this channel via a irc client? 16:20 + enwilson> NBC: the USS Harry Truman, which is going to be the floating command post, is one of 5 ships being dispatched to the area... 16:20 @ The_Tick> StuntMonkey: irc.freenode.net #interdictor 16:21 @ mathx> anderson beat down? what? 16:21 + rafx> CNN: anderson cooper asking really good questions 16:21 @ ICMB> There have been many reports that the US is turning down/not accepting aid. Please provide a cite for your reports. 16:21 Mode: #interdictor[+v osiris_-] by _Blacklite_ 16:21 @ _Blacklite_> CBS: 20+ countries offering boats, aircraft, supplies, manpower, etc. As of yet, US has not accepted any. 16:21 + msk-sf> concur on CNN 16:21 + Greylight> CNN: Anderson cooper: "A lot of people are ashamed of (our government)... no one seems to be taking responsibility... People wants answers." Senator interrupts: "We know it. We understand... there will be a time to talk about that... We are doing our best to stabilize the situation." 16:21 Mode: #interdictor[+v Jack-HP] by The_Tick 16:21 + enwilson> NBC just briefly mentioned the turndown of aid. 16:21 kow|wk changed the topic of #interdictor to: You are now on irc.freenode.net #interdictor || http://www.nola-intel.org | audio from NO: #interdictor-scanner | summaries & questions: #interdictor-digest | spam & chat: #interdictor-chat | this channel is info-only. mention sources. | Media PM an op 16:22 @ kow|wk> (updated topic for anyone who's logging in via web clients) 16:22 + osiris_-> ICMB: Is saying "CBS" enough as a cite? Or we need more? 16:22 + GrapedFert> Somewhere I read that the Harry Truman has a massive water purification/production capability 16:22 @ The_Tick> osiris_-: enough 16:22 @ mathx> osiris: a url is always best. 16:22 @ The_Tick> but url is better 16:22 @ mathx> we have a URL logger off the Wiki, go check it 16:22 + osiris_-> Ahh, gotcha 16:22 + msk-sf> CNN: cooper's really pissed 16:22 + Wynona> C-Span is discussing price gouging on fuel right now 16:22 @ ICMB> Rice says all aid will be accepted http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBR9VJM3DE.html 16:22 + Bakudan> Housing website for hurricane refugees - find or offer 16:22 + Jack-HP> Airlines Cancel More Flights, Prepare for Possible Fuel Shortages @ AirportBusiness.com News (AirportBusiness.com) 16:22 + Jack-HP> http://www.airportbusiness.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=3343 16:22 + Bakudan> http://www.hurricanehousing.org/ 16:23 @ hfx_ben> soo ... this is for chat and digest is for ... occasional updates? 16:23 + Jack-HP> Airline story has possible closures of Airoprts, Including Dulles, Ft. lauderdale and Tampa, due to jet fuel shortages 16:23 @ hfx_ben> k 16:23 @ djbsquared> hfx_ben: we are moderated in here 16:23 @ selcouth> Digest is summaries 16:23 @ mathx> 16:23 @ mathx> FEEL FREE TO TALK ABOUT TRADITIONAL MEDIA SOURCED INFO - BUT NOLA-INTEL IS ONLY INTERESTED IN FACTORING NON-MAJOR MEDIA/NON-US NEWS FOR NOW. No Point in repeating them. 16:23 @ mathx> 16:24 @ djbsquared> they cannot see what eachother are saying 16:24 @ djbsquared> they can only see what we are saying 16:24 + osiris_-> Whos nola-intel? 16:24 + msk-sf> yeah i didn't understand that either 16:24 inter01 was kicked from #interdictor by selcouth (calculate pi to the last digit, then come back.) 16:24 @ _Blacklite_> this is nola-intel 16:24 @ mathx> Bakudan: can I get some info on 19:23 <+Bakudan> http://www.hurricanehousing.org/ 16:25 @ _Blacklite_> you get voice when you have good info 16:25 @ djbsquared> people who have things they need to say 16:25 @ mathx> inter01: no one can hear you but us Ops, and NO POLITICS. get kb'd next time, you are too much extra noise we cant factor. 16:25 @ mathx> inter34: yer not +v only ops can hear, take it to #interdictor-chat 16:25 @ mathx> (tho its semi useful) 16:26 + Bakudan> mathx: I'm pulling info mostly from FARK threads that seem legit - that is a webiste for people to offer housing for refugees, or for refugees to search for housing 16:26 @ mathx> Imperfect: thakns! 16:26 Mode: #interdictor[+v Imperfect] by djbsquared 16:26 @ _Blacklite_> SOURCED: "US won't let Canada help Katrina victims" -- http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/31/235829/261 16:26 @ mathx> Bakudan: yeah thats ok. Fark is internet/small media 16:26 @ mathx> _Blacklite_: wrong chan :) 16:26 + Greylight> CNN: Andersoon Cooper is crying... 16:26 @ mathx> Greylight: ??! 16:26 + msk-sf> how is my CNN feed behind yours? 16:26 + rcalise> CNN reports Texas public schools are offering to take NOLA students 16:26 + msk-sf> weird 16:26 @ mathx> Marcee: a LOG of -chat? or a webclient? 16:27 @ hfx_ben> RSS feed of LJ ... forgot about this! 16:27 + Wynona> Is no one transcribing in the scanner channel? 16:27 @ hfx_ben> http://www.livejournal.com/users/hfx_ben/data/rss 16:27 Mode: #interdictor[+o cbarrett] by ICMB 16:27 Mode: #interdictor[+o cbarrett] by selcouth 16:27 @ selcouth> heh 16:27 + rcalise> Wynona, crschmidt and aSmig are transcribing. 16:27 @ mathx> Wynona: isnt their effort good enuf for you? they seem to be up to date. 16:27 + Greylight> mathx: Dunno... he was just really choked up when someone off camera said or did something... 16:27 @ mathx> #interdictor-scanner, not #scanner. 16:27 @ cbarrett> heh 16:27 Mode: #interdictor[+v drue] by mathx 16:27 + Wynona> when I check the scanner channel I only see adds and joins 16:27 @ mathx> drue: repeat that 16:27 + drue> _Blacklite_, don't spread misinformation regarding US accepting aid (http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBR9VJM3DE.html) 16:27 @ _Blacklite_> (what) 16:28 @ _Blacklite_> (I didn't realize I was) 16:28 @ djbsquared> drue: it is not misinformation, its what has occured up to this point 16:28 Mode: #interdictor[+oo selcouth selcouth] by cbarrett 16:28 @ mathx> Wynona: wrong channel. #interdictor-scanner, and turn off seeing joins/parts 16:28 + theagent> hey I'm reporting on FOX from the beginning... +v me 16:28 @ djbsquared> drue: you dont need to post personal comments to everyone 16:28 @ mathx> drue: there';s info on both sides here - NOT accepting, accepting, its not clear 16:28 @ mathx> theagent: you ARE +v'd check your status line. 16:28 @ mathx> TuxKamen: you arent tho, see? :) 16:28 + osiris_-> CBS News Correspondent David Martin reports from the Pentagon that the army is preparing to send up to 10,000 combat troops from the active duty force. Forty-thousand National Guard troops have already been activated for duty. ( http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/31/katrina/main807164.shtml ) 16:29 @ ICMB> ALL: The question of the US response to aid offers is contradictory depending on your source. As such, we can't draw any conclusion, so please take the debate to #interdictor-chat 16:29 @ mathx> guys, this is starting to work well. keep it up! getting some good info here and no spammy chatter! keep it up. 16:29 @ djbsquared> hfx_ben: this is #interdictor, not ## 16:29 + Wynona> mathx: is there someplace that tells me how to turn things off in irc? I am new to this... 16:30 @ mathx> Wynona: google? 16:30 + Bakudan> from the graphs at the national hurricane center (www.nhc.noaa.gov) it seems that the newly formed tropical depressions are heading up the east coast - NOLA should be free from newer storms for the time being 16:30 @ mathx> How do you turn off joins/quits/parts in mirc (which I assume most peopel use?) 16:30 @ solcita> view > options > irc > events 16:30 + Greylight> mathx /ignore #interdictor * JOINS PARTS QUITS 16:30 @ _Blacklite_> Stuff.co.nz reports 1500 prison inmates are being held at the end of a sunken highway 16:30 @ _Blacklite_> [16:30] http://stuff.co.nz/inl/common/imageViewer/0,1445,202964,00.jpg 16:30 + osiris_-> CBS TV: Red cross has given $365,000 over the last two days 16:31 Mode: #interdictor[+v StuntMonkey] by _Blacklite_ 16:31 @ hfx_ben> Wooops ... typo in blog RSS - http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/data/rss/ 16:31 @ mathx> Wynona: what greylight said. 16:31 @ mathx> IS ANYONE TRASNCRIBING THE 2 CHANNEL SCANNER FEED 16:31 @ mathx> (one channel at a time - need 2 people obviously...) 16:32 + rcalise> mathx, what? 16:32 @ mathx> Just hear in left channel (who is that? FEMA?) some elderly man passed out and in serious condition, but this is becoming commonplace news 16:32 @ Teriander> I want to enable voice for everyone, message me if you know a quick way to do this mIRC 16:32 @ mathx> who has the info on the 2 channel scanner feed, i lost that url. 16:32 @ mathx> 2 channel here 16:32 @ mathx> http://www.radioreference.com:8080/lspbtr.m3u 16:32 @ mathx> likely to be filled with listeners if no one mirrors soon. 16:32 @ mathx> mcsmurf: check your scroll back, im overwhelmed. 16:32 @ hfx_ben> Fats Domino rescued earlier; now gone missing ... 16:32 + rcalise> if i had the bandwidth, i'd mirror it. 16:33 @ mathx> hfx_ben: that a joke? 16:33 + Greylight> FOX: Video of I-10 ... dead body by the side of the road. Reporter having a hard time talking about it.... 16:33 @ mathx> EDarwin: can we get a url to that xscribe, or put it in irc somewhere? 16:33 + StuntMonkey> NZ Herald reports superdome unsanitary and supplies are running out for the 15,000 - 25,000 people stuck inside. 16:33 + StuntMonkey> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10343671 16:33 + rcalise> CNN: Latest death count (official): 202; Estimated: "thousands" 16:33 @ mathx> that;'s been the full stereo feed all night, of course, 16:33 @ mathx> this feed seems new to me. 16:34 @ mathx> bakedweb: already posted. get some new info. 16:34 @ mathx> StuntMonkey: thot they were evacing the SuperDome to AstroDome. I was out all day what hapd? 16:34 @ mathx> EDarwin: where's the old feed gone to then 16:34 + Greylight> CNN: Showing residents returning home to Waveland, Mississippi, which looks like so much scattered toothpicks. 16:35 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: i10 has thousands waiting for buses 16:35 Mode: #interdictor[+v Red_Eye] by mathx 16:35 @ mathx> Red_Eye: mirror the dual channel feed? well, it's 32kbps, so however many listeners. 16:35 + StuntMonkey> mathx people still suck inside. 16:35 @ hfx_ben> something like 2K evaced to Astro ... 25K remain at Super 16:35 @ mathx> Our first feed has 3-4 imrrors we setup last night, and we have like 2000 listeners total across the 4 mirrors. 16:35 @ hfx_ben> mathx: you getting snowed under? 16:35 + StuntMonkey> astrodome fire has been put out :/ 16:35 @ mathx> So think of that. 32kbps * 2000 16:35 + Jack-HP> The state governor has called for 40,000 troops to restore order after a spate of lawlessness, AFP reports. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4206620.stm 16:35 @ mathx> hfx_ben: dude, yer an op, cmon man. dont be silly. dont have the bandwidth. 16:35 + Greylight> CNN: Anderson Cooper and other staff members.... trying to help, unable to report... just trying to console victims. 16:35 @ mathx> (for the record im sweating into my shorts. its hot here.) 16:36 + StuntMonkey> mathx, where are you 16:36 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv BigTwist bsf-brennan burnout] by Teriander 16:36 + StuntMonkey> ? 16:36 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv CheeToS chemical CK33per] by Teriander 16:36 @ mathx> Astrodome had a fire? man im out of it. too busy trying to org this 16:36 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv buttsteak concept CoolerQ] by Teriander 16:36 @ mathx> I am in canada. 16:36 @ mathx> I am not. 16:36 @ hfx_ben> Woa ... superdome had fire 16:36 + BigTwist> I'm not using mIRC 16:36 @ mathx> Please see the wiki.nola-intel.org Wiki please 16:36 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv cPdarwin Dark-Fx Darkest_Ancient] by Teriander 16:36 + BigTwist> sorry :-) 16:36 + StuntMonkey> ASTRO AND SUPER?! 16:36 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv declan DrBoB dre^^] by Teriander 16:36 + StuntMonkey> FFS 16:36 @ mathx> guess that was a typo somewhere, its not the AstroDome fire. 16:36 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv dynamicism edible Eimann] by Teriander 16:36 @ _Blacklite_> so we do have a -chat channel 16:37 @ mathx> yes we do. 16:37 @ hfx_ben> Who said Astro had fire? betcha just confused 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv EV1-DanielC evanchsa Far_Side] by Teriander 16:37 @ mathx> please say hi and what not and discuss things in #interdictor-chat 16:37 + osiris_-> Deano Bonano is the deputy chief administrative officer for Jefferson Parish, La. Jefferson is the largest parish in the state, immediately west of New Orleans. U.S. News senior writer Amanda Spake spoke to Bonano last night about the pressing medical needs in his community. Here's a synopsis of the situation, in his own words: 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv frakk frigo Fyre] by Teriander 16:37 + osiris_-> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/briefs/publichealth/hb050901c.htm?track=rss 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv GPF_ Herschel hylix] by Teriander 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv Hynes Insomniac is-] by Teriander 16:37 + StuntMonkey> CNN reports smoke is going to take days to clear 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv jeffwiegand Jerub jessea] by Teriander 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv karmicthreat kor kow|wk] by Teriander 16:37 @ hfx_ben> mathx - -digest is now silent; updates only *shakes head* 16:37 @ mathx> osiris_-: can you summarize a bit 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv Lodion loranx MetsRallyNick] by Teriander 16:37 @ _Blacklite_> we can keep the news flowing in here, this is what people are here for, and the cross chat can be done privately and whatnot 16:37 @ mathx> hfx_ben: dude, im overwhelmed. 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv michaelloftis mirth N`Grath] by Teriander 16:37 @ mathx> and, furthremore, we're following our creedo -- 16:37 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv niftybitch Nite_Hawk noodle] by Teriander 16:37 + osiris_-> Mathx: Sorry, I pasted to the line not expecting it to send to the channel 16:37 @ mathx> we are not factoring traditional media intel here. 16:37 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Red Cross asking for "kid friendly" DVD's for shelters 16:38 @ mathx> only stuff from the internet thats non major media. 16:38 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv Number44 Pavix Pelican_Jock] by Teriander 16:38 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv MMA[Cory] phoo ProcrasT8] by Teriander 16:38 @ mathx> osiris_-: its ok, just summarize what it says if you spent the time reading it, save us all time 16:38 + Greylight> CNN: Anderson Cooper talks to another CNN staffmember who used to live there... her home is now a concrete slab. People asking "Where is the Red Cross? Where is FEMA? We need help?" She wants to throw down her microphone and help... People on wheelchairs trying to get water... elderly trapped... no one is coming... 16:38 + osiris_-> Oh, ok. so no CBS/ABC/CNN/US news, etc 16:38 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv ratman rawtaz remon] by Teriander 16:38 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv Retrofitter rose_kennedy Sam] by Teriander 16:38 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv samiam Sefriel selcouth] by Teriander 16:38 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv shelter shoggoth sniper] by Teriander 16:38 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv sploo22 StarCreator Syncros] by Teriander 16:38 + theagent> we have individuals assigned to report on TV news 16:38 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv Alucard256 Tarpon Textral] by Teriander 16:38 + Greylight> oh 16:38 + StuntMonkey> CNN Reports 25 or so helo's ferrying people to NO Airport as it has been turned into a crisis centre for medical treatment 16:39 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv TheBrothersCath TheWGP tigeba] by Teriander 16:39 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv Typ0King Vehementi WebIrc-735] by Teriander 16:39 + Greylight> Want me to stop, mathx? 16:39 + rcalise> CNN reports 200 MPs ready to deploy into NO, more on the way 16:39 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Citizens opening their homes to refugees, ie Craigslist 16:39 + enwilson> WWL-TV: St. Charles Specialty Hospice...26 patients need evac, looking for help to carry them down two flights of stairs...generators for oxygen tanks almost out...currently unable to reach them 16:40 Mode: #interdictor[+vvv BigTwist Wolfwood zooteD] by Teriander 16:40 + enwilson> That is, unable to make follow-up contact with the Hospice 16:40 @ mathx> CAN ANYONE UNDERSTAND LEFT CHANNEL FEED reporting WATER being on 16:40 @ mathx> drinking water flowing where? 16:40 @ mathx> where's lakeland 16:41 @ mathx> yeah they need to test the water first, but the water is on. they stopped some woman from drinking it tho its flowing 16:41 + Bakudan> we have a lakeland in florida.. probably not what you mean though 16:41 @ mathx> 'lakeland bridge' ? 16:41 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Showing footage of rescues throughout the day 16:41 + StuntMonkey> ABC Reports Marathon, Florida Keys is submerged in water as well. 16:41 @ mathx> StuntMonkey: WTF? why? how? surge still? 16:42 @ kow|wk> Another update on Interdictor LJ (16 minutes ago). I may be late on that one. 16:42 + theagent> it was hard to watch that last bit of footage.... DAMN! 16:42 @ mathx> Sol-Eve: there are two scanner feeds. one has 2 channels, so total 3 feeds. one is being transcribed in #interdictor-scanner 16:42 + StuntMonkey> CNN Shows pictures of Poydras Centre taken by Michael 16:42 + StuntMonkey> http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/us/0508/gallery.katrina.citizens/images/louisiana/03.02.ala.barnett.jpg 16:43 @ hfx_ben> check: -digest is for digests, and -chat is for -chat ... confirmed? QSL? 16:43 @ hfx_ben> *news to me* 16:43 @ michaelloftis> please don't use the contact information as a well wishing channel for them, the info he published is JUST for media. 16:43 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Islamist extremists rejoicing over NO devastation 16:43 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*n=ksosez@*.vnnyca.adelphia.net] by djbsquared 16:43 Ksosez was kicked from #interdictor by djbsquared (buh-bye) 16:44 @ mathx> what was that about Weapons and traffic on left channel scanner? 16:44 @ mathx> s: is Lakeland near NO? how far w.r.t NOLA 16:44 Mode: #interdictor[+v s] by mathx 16:45 @ hfx_ben> Whyyyyyy is EOC so lame?! 16:45 @ mathx> is that for sure, there may be one in LA - is lakeland having katrina related problems? 16:45 @ mathx> Facade3: yes there are two scanner feeds. hit the url in /topic 16:46 @ hfx_ben> 80MTR ham net (SARES) is still silent 16:46 + Red_Eye> mathx: whats needed to mirror the feeds? 16:46 + StuntMonkey> AP Reports Fats Domino was missing Thursday 16:46 + Bakudan> IRS sets up a hotline for victims http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/ap_on_go_ot/katrina_taxes 16:46 + osiris_-> Sean "Diddy" Combs and Jay-Z have pledge $1 million to Red Cross. Celine Dion and Nicholas Cage also pledged $1 Million. (http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/entertainment/gossip/12536718.htm) 16:47 @ hfx_ben> if someone knows of a ham who can create a feed: SATERN is active on 14.265MHz 16:48 @ djbsquared> Yankees donated 1mil 16:48 @ hfx_ben> That's 1st gush ... more will come. 16:48 + theagent> try IRLP.net for ham feeds 16:48 @ hfx_ben> folk need H2O ASAP 16:48 Mode: #interdictor[-b *!*n=ksosez@*.vnnyca.adelphia.net] by djbsquared 16:48 + Guy-Smiley> less than an hour till sundown :-/ 16:48 @ selcouth> Oy 16:49 @ hfx_ben> Any forcast for tomorrow? sunny and 90+ again? 16:49 + Bakudan> Hospitals losing power and water, begging for help - http://cbs2chicago.com/nationalwire/Katrina-Hospitals-aa/resources_news_html 16:49 hfx_ben* is surprised ... expected worse already 16:49 @ mathx> Red_Eye: you need an icecast streaming server 16:49 + Guy-Smiley> highs in the low 90's tomarrow 16:50 + Guy-Smiley> and partly cloudy 16:50 + Bakudan> wow they're keeping patients on the roof because its too hot in the buildings 16:50 @ hfx_ben> Water / food / support gotta be at convention center soonest tomorrow 16:50 @ Soms> Did anyone see fox news 16:50 @ Soms> where the person said an internet chatter said 16:50 @ Soms> this is just the start of a global war 16:50 + enwilson> MSNBC: Red Cross has received $71.6 million in gifts and pledges 16:50 + rcalise> CNN reporting 135,000 LA students will be going to other cities/states for the upcoming school year/ 16:51 @ Soms> zn-, ... 16:51 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Long term effects of exposure to standing water... etc 16:51 Mode: #interdictor[+v NoLessGall] by Soms 16:52 @ hfx_ben> did loganattwood come by today? 16:52 @ hfx_ben> pink? 16:52 @ solcita> earlier, hfx. 16:52 Mode: #interdictor[+v Donny] by Soms 16:52 Mode: #interdictor[+v joeldg] by michaelloftis 16:52 + enwilson> Not exactly news, but I've got a link from FEMA for tips on donations: 16:52 + enwilson> http://www.fema.gov/rrr/help2.shtm 16:52 @ hfx_ben> k tu solc 16:53 + Bakudan> A survivor registry webiste has just gone up at http://survivorregistry.com 16:54 + osiris_-> How credible do the sources need to be to post here? 16:54 + skep> I can't find the explanation of the scanner-callnames, like bulldog ect., I know I read somewhere that bulldog is for the southern part of NO ect. 16:54 + rcalise> osiris_-, as credible as possible. 16:54 + osiris_-> Ok 16:54 osiris_-* scraps "Unconfirmed Sources - The news you just can't use" site 16:55 + StuntMonkey> ABS Reports police officers shot at 3 foot shark in downtown flood waters 16:55 @ hfx_ben> kow: I read "#interdictor-digest for discussion" 16:55 @ hfx_ben> should be -chat, no? 16:55 + enwilson> http://www.wwltv.com/sharedcontent/nationworld/katrina/stories/090105ccjcwccwMainKatrina.4c55a2f6.html 16:55 + StuntMonkey> I got banned from chat for swearing 16:56 Mode: #interdictor[+v ratman2] by Soms 16:56 @ hfx_ben> I keep asking, nobody answers ... 16:56 Mode: #interdictor[+v ratman2] by Soms 16:56 Mode: #interdictor[+o Donny] by michaelloftis 16:56 + Bakudan> the nola-intel page was just posted to totalfark - expect traffic soon 16:56 @ hfx_ben> Oh geez I should Furl it 16:57 + enwilson> Clinton on MSNBC 16:57 + enwilson> well, for a second 16:57 + Red_Eye> mathx: afrid I cant offer that, is there any thing else I can offer, Ive got some server space and bandwidth avail 16:57 @ Soms> alright if your monitoring a specific tv station 16:57 @ Soms> state the station name now 16:57 + Guy-Smiley> WWL 16:57 @ selcouth> theagent: is[was?] on Fox 16:58 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: 16:58 @ hfx_ben> "Katrina Wiki - NOLA-Intel" ... fine stuff 16:58 + enwilson> MSNBC 16:58 + StuntMonkey> CNN/ABC 16:58 Mode: #interdictor[+v Exstatica] by Soms 16:58 + Guy-Smiley> do you want radio too? I may switch to WWL radio later tonight, i'm not sure 16:58 @ Soms> sorry goofey 16:58 @ hfx_ben> zn- ... how about you say something about that in -tech ... maybe nobody will answer but it will be on record 16:59 @ Soms> NPR is way out there, and has been sued for mis-broadcasts 16:59 @ Soms> so we dont want that 16:59 @ Donny> What's going on guys I am one of the guys in the office in NOLA. 16:59 @ Soms> donny register your nick 16:59 @ Soms> and pm me 16:59 @ djbsquared> hey Donny, how are you guys doing down there? 16:59 @ hfx_ben> tonepad switching 16:59 + joeldg> Donny is my hero :) 17:00 + Bakudan> Hey Donny, give us some news :_D 17:00 + Guy-Smiley> :) 17:00 @ Donny> Register my nick? Sorry, I'm irc clueless. 17:00 + osiris_-> Tenet Healthcare Corp said that more than 40 patients and 200 staff still needed evacuation from its Memorial Medical Center in New Orleans. Some staff remains at Kenner Regional Medical Center. The Lindy Boggs Medical Center in NO has been evacuated. ( http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?guid={55EE2776-3AC4-4D12-AF93-33B722435206}&dist=rss&siteid=mktw ) 17:00 @ djbsquared> Donny: /msg nickserv register password 17:00 @ cbarrett> < Heliox> tp://www.arrl.org has a link for HAMs to volunteer for communications duty in the affected areas. 17:00 @ djbsquared> though someone might own it already 17:00 @ hfx_ben> We use a similar system from cross-continent ham satellite linkage of local repeaters 17:00 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: O'Reilly No Spin Zone up next... (this should be fun) 17:00 @ Donny> Joel. :) 17:00 @ hfx_ben> things are pinkish 17:01 @ djbsquared> Donny: actually hold off on that 17:01 + osiris_-> Theagent: lol 17:01 + enwilson> Countdown coming up on MSNBC 17:01 Mode: #interdictor[+o pinkish] by hfx_ben 17:01 @ djbsquared> haah 17:01 Mode: #interdictor[+v pinkish] by djbsquared 17:01 @ Donny> We are still here. Going strong. Getting tired. We stink. Well Sig does, I still smell good. 17:01 @ hfx_ben> :-P 17:01 @ pinkish> heh thankie 17:01 + enwilson> heh 17:01 @ pinkish> Anything new? 17:01 @ hfx_ben> http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Main_Page is looking great 17:01 @ Nite_Hawk> Donny: heya, glad to hear your oders don't offend. ;) 17:02 @ djbsquared> Donny: what are you guys actually doing? 17:02 @ Donny> We still only have 1 oc3. We are pushing it really close. 17:02 + Bakudan> No luck with bellsouth? 17:02 @ mathx> people: keep the extra comments 'heh' ':)' down please, voiced users, or we'll devoice you. need low chatter in here please. lets listen to Donny who's ONSITE in NOLA at Directnic! 17:03 @ mathx> < null0> Donny - I have BellSouth contact info, if you need it. 17:03 @ Donny> We normally bust our ass using the day and then rest at night, because we are too tired. 17:03 + Exstatica> Donny, i sent you a pm ealier on icq, but i understand it's tough.... I work for a Noc in Los Angeles, if there is anything i can supply you with let me know 17:03 @ SCSi^> beer and hookers are a good start 17:03 @ SCSi^> :) 17:03 @ Donny> bellsouth has told u that they are only going to support their system, nobody else right now. 17:03 + skep> Many usefull Links: http://members.boardhost.com/hurricanecity/msg/93234.top 17:03 @ hfx_ben> Exstat: how about leave contact info in -tech 17:04 @ Donny> Exstatica: Sorry, you must have sent it to Mike. He's the one with the icq # on the blog. 17:04 + Exstatica> I talked to a Bell south engineer and they are picking up generators they are trying to get some communication sup first 17:04 @ Donny> They are already at bell. Along with gas. 17:04 + Exstatica> good 17:05 Mode: #interdictor[+v null0] by djbsquared 17:05 + osiris_-> "Med 1", a prototype mobile hospital, may be sent down to NO. Med 1 is a tractor trailer that unfolds into a 120 bed hospital, staffed by 75 doctors and nurses. "...anything that would be treated in an emergency department were capable of handling on board this rig" [sic] ( http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/stories/090105-ad-wcnc-med1.17248751.html ) 17:05 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Finis Shellnut stuck in French Quarter on phone, surrounded by looters! 17:05 + null0> Donny, I work for Cisco. You need to get a TSP number, if you don't already have one, from NCS. 17:05 @ Donny> Nullo: sent me an email to donny@intercosmos.com please. It may come in handy. 17:05 @ djbsquared> you guys, while donny is around and willing to talk, lets kill thes feeds in heer 17:05 Mode: #interdictor[-z] by djbsquared 17:05 + null0> Donny, this gives you priority for service restoration. 17:05 Knobee* talked with seveal members of NC ems today. There are 5 mobile surgical units (modern M*A*S*H) staging in Charlotte. 17:05 + osiris_-> Djbsquared: OK :) 17:05 + null0> Will do, Donny. 17:06 @ djbsquared> thanks osiris_- 17:06 + null0> thanks, djbsquared. 17:06 @ djbsquared> sure null0, wanna make sure the important stuff gets through 17:06 + theagent> FOX NEWS reports: Finis Shelnutt reports looters shot police officer in head 17:06 @ pinkish> holy shit there are a lot of people in here 17:06 @ djbsquared> theagent: lets stop the news for now 17:06 @ SCSi^> just unvoice them 17:06 @ djbsquared> pinkish: yea, but only 50 of us can talk :) 17:06 + null0> Donny: Find out whether or not you have a TSP number. If not, contact NCS to get one. 17:07 @ pinkish> The stats on the site are crazy 17:07 @ hfx_ben> there is -chat as well as -digest and -scanner and -tech 17:07 + joeldg> Finis Shelnutt is the owner of a couple buildings in the french quarter.. 17:07 @ Donny> Overall, as I mentioned before we are all doing good. It really helped that I was able to talk to my wife last night via icq, since I hadn't talked to her since Sunday morning. 17:07 @ The_Tick> are the uplinks back online? 17:07 @ michaelloftis> Donny: not sure if you're seeing my PMs or not there, this channel is half-modded, i gave you info to get into the management channel...lemme know if you got that or not. :/ 17:07 @ selcouth> Please /msg Botunda with what news you are covering (for wiki) 17:08 @ Soms> Donny, is your nick registered? 17:08 @ Donny> No they aren't. We unfortunately had to shut down somethingawful.com because they were just using too much bandwidth. 17:08 @ djbsquared> if you guys want to get some internal chat that is a bit more closed, you could register some jabber accounts 17:08 @ The_Tick> Donny: might go run by #nanog on efnet then 17:08 @ michaelloftis> ok got the Donny nick dropped, Donny register your nick with Nickserv please 17:08 + Exstatica> I'm on nanog on efnet, let me know if you need anything 17:08 @ Soms> #nanog on efnet is like going into a riot 17:08 + theagent> do a party line call on Gizmo, full duplex audio 17:09 @ The_Tick> Soms: yes, but with some use 17:09 Mode: #interdictor[+v Botunda] by selcouth 17:09 @ The_Tick> i agree, not much 17:09 @ Soms> heh, sure a bit of operational use 17:09 @ cbarrett> Soms: I went in there once, but they asked me what network company I worked for, and then they banned me. 17:09 lilo> hi all 17:09 @ hfx_ben> nothing heard from botunda 17:09 Mode: #interdictor[+v lilo] by The_Tick 17:09 @ Soms> haha 17:09 + StuntMonkey> Ditto 17:09 @ selcouth> Hey lilo 17:09 @ cbarrett> hello lilo! 17:09 @ Soms> Greetings lilo 17:10 cbarrett* plays hail to the chief 17:10 + lilo> (let me know if I should consider myself moderated; apologies!) 17:10 + Botunda> Please msg Botunda with who is wasatching/reading what sites and channels (tv) for the wiki 17:10 @ michaelloftis> please people don't inundate poor donny 17:10 + Botunda> need to get as much coverage as poss 17:10 @ Soms> well your voiced arn't you :) 17:10 + StuntMonkey> Botunda done 17:11 Mode: #interdictor[+o lilo] by SCSi^ 17:11 @ lilo> Soms: so I am 8) 17:11 @ lilo> kay 17:11 @ lilo> thanks SCSi^ 17:11 @ cbarrett> The LJ was mentioned on Air America Radio. 17:11 @ SCSi^> np 17:11 @ SCSi^> im glad all these people moved over from my server 17:11 @ Donny> Sorry guys. We were trying to figure out what to eat for dinner. It's fairly limited. 17:11 @ SCSi^> it was less than happy 17:11 @ pinkish> Getting people from the London Times, too 17:11 @ hfx_ben> Brad Fitz must be having kittens. 17:11 @ SCSi^> nah 17:11 @ SCSi^> this is nothing for LJ 17:11 Knobee* is trying to setup a Peercast of the video channel, but it's not "doing the right thing" yet... Grr... 17:11 + StuntMonkey> Donny - what in the way of food have you guys got? 17:11 + Bakudan> Man I would so send you guys 20 or so pizzas 17:12 + rcalise> Hell, if I could get down there, I'd cook dinner for everyone in the building. 17:12 @ hfx_ben> Oooooooh! Admitted that feds /did not know about folk at Convention Center until today!!/ 17:13 + Guy-Smiley> who did? 17:13 + rcalise> hfx_ben, please source that? 17:13 @ Donny> We have always been prepared as far as food goes. We have little debbie stacks, more hot dogs than I care to count, crappy intercosmos sandwich meat, and peanut butter and jelly. But you know what it's all great right now! Food, in any shape or form is good. 17:14 + enwilson> I thought I saw somebody drinking a Red Bull the other night... 17:14 + enwilson> Energy drinks holding up? 17:14 @ selcouth> Hot dogs! 17:14 + StuntMonkey> Donny - I hate to ask too many questions but do you guys have an exit stratergy? 17:14 @ pinkish> Seaplane 17:14 @ pinkish> haha 17:15 @ djbsquared> tactical airstrikes always help :P 17:15 @ Soms> haha 17:15 + theagent> they'll call in Fuel3 17:15 @ Soms> fast rope into a blackhawk always works 17:15 + StuntMonkey> djbsquared lol that would sort those bastard looters! 17:15 @ djbsquared> yea, ill bet it would 17:15 @ pinkish> There is an offer froma pilot in FL offering to land on the river and pick them up, or land on a street. 17:15 @ Amish_Hooker> http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/40720.html?thread=1125392#t1125392 someone in chat feels this is relevant 17:15 @ pinkish> ignore my shitty spacebar 17:15 @ michaelloftis> and again please do NOT pm donny heh :) we're lucky to have the guy here and so direct questions via this channel...i'm sure he'll answer as much as possible. 17:15 + Bakudan> Hey Donny, have you guys had anny breakin attempts? 17:15 + Guy-Smiley> 800,000 people are still without power 17:16 joeldg* envisions Donny and company getting out of NOLA all escape from new york style 17:16 + theagent> if DirectNIC is like any other major NOC, they're probably behind a few man traps of significant size 17:16 @ djbsquared> C4! 17:16 Mode: #interdictor[+v mathy] by cbarrett 17:16 @ djbsquared> :P 17:16 doofoo: is now known as doofoo- 17:17 + StuntMonkey> Proximity wall mines 17:17 + StuntMonkey> much cleaner 17:17 Mode: #interdictor[+v mathx] by djbsquared 17:17 Mode: #interdictor[-v mathy] by djbsquared 17:17 + Bakudan> According to the scanner ammo is being trucked to the NO|EOC 17:18 + theagent> I heard that earlier 17:18 Mode: #interdictor[+o mathy] by mathx 17:18 + EV1-DanielC> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net/ -- Audio: http://mirror1.ev1helps.net:8000 17:18 @ hfx_ben> SARES 80MTR net has been activated http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/canwarnlive ... it will improve steadily as sun sets 17:18 @ Soms> All chatter goes to #interdictor-chat 17:18 + Bakudan> also I have a rumor of cholera cases found - i'm trying to find a source 17:18 @ mathy> We're looking for Internet-only source info, not from traditional media, that's not mentioned in trad media pages. So find something, then hit fox cnn msnbc see if its mentioned, if not bring it here. we'll factor it to #-digest and to the Wiki. 17:18 @ Soms> We have a digest in #interdictor-digest 17:18 @ mathy> request: can someone either paste a short bit on the TotalFark mention of nola-intel.org, or take a snapshot of the entry and URL me? just wnat to see the spin on it. 17:18 + Imperfect> Direct question then: Is it possible to get Michael to post a link to the comments by the Rev. Jessie Jackson that set him off so? No-one can find the story on the internet. Perhaps an edit to his previous post? 17:19 @ pinkish> It was prob onthe news 17:19 + Knobee> could the person talking about canwarnlive plz msg me. 17:19 + Bakudan> mathy: one sec 17:20 @ michaelloftis> again bear with us folks, you're seeing it raw as it gets, we're trying to disinter all the information and distribute as much as we can, and trying not to duplicate, or pass along crap :) 17:20 + theagent> hospitals now requesting armed NG to spend the night 17:20 @ mathy> LEFT CHANNEL FEED: summary -- aid personel have to be aware alot of non uniform cops in non copcars, with little id. 17:21 @ michaelloftis> if you want to chat, take it to #interdictor-chat, if you want good, confirmed only news with almost all signal head to the #interdictor-digest, tech questions to #interdictor-tech 17:21 + Bakudan> mathy: this was a post in a totalfark thread, it hasn't hit the main area. no way to gauge reaction. "also i found this, and it is a great store of info: wikipage (no pop in a disaster)" 17:21 + Bakudan> sorry 'wikipage' was a link 17:22 + Bakudan> if you need me to spam it in TF let me know 17:22 @ Donny> Yes, we do have an exit strategy. I don't want to say what it is yet, but it involves jet packs. 17:22 @ selcouth> haha 17:22 + osiris_-> heh 17:22 @ Nite_Hawk> Donny: beautiful. :) How's the remaining OC3 holding up? 17:22 + Knobee> Donny -- good for you! 17:23 @ djbsquared> Donny: can i get the blueprints when this is all over? 17:23 @ mathy> /ignore -channels #interdictor * PARTS JOINS QUITS 17:24 @ Donny> Sure. Blue prints will be available. And for those of you who don't know last night we started pointing the cam into our little hole. So we will probably do that again tonight. 17:24 + StuntMonkey> Thanks donny 17:25 + joeldg> could someone +v ssavoie he is also an intercosmos employee 17:25 @ djbsquared> Donny: with IRC we could play charades :P 17:25 Mode: #interdictor[+v ssavoie] by michaelloftis 17:26 @ pinkish> haha 17:27 @ Donny> hahahaha 17:27 @ pinkish> I think I may start stocking my house with supplies...weapons... fiber 17:28 + Guy-Smiley> beans? 17:28 + osiris_-> heh 17:28 @ pinkish> haha 17:28 + rafx> Tishia Walters on CNN speaking from convention center says 10 year old girl raped with both ankles broken, and they have six dead bodies inside 17:29 @ djbsquared> sounds like nukes would help 17:29 @ SCSi^> wtf is up with all the crschmidt addresses 17:29 @ SCSi^> theres like 20 from one host 17:29 + ratman2> jesus 17:29 @ Donny> rafx: I could imagine that happen at this point. 17:29 Mode: #interdictor[+o mathy] by mathx 17:29 @ pinkish> beats me 17:29 @ mathy> pinkish = pink from deadjournal? 17:29 @ SCSi^> oh 17:29 @ SCSi^> probably the webapplet 17:29 @ pinkish> and pinkish on LJ 17:29 @ SCSi^> or something 17:29 @ SCSi^> nevermind 17:29 @ hfx_ben> Offer: if folk stick URLs whatever on http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/InfoDump I'll ''re-factor'' it when I come back in 3 houts (gotta schmooze) 17:29 Exstatica* sets mode +b *!*@*.crschmidt.com 17:29 @ pinkish> yes 17:29 @ SCSi^> ack 17:29 @ pinkish> That's me 17:29 @ mathy> i spose that we' were bound to hear about the rapes, if we setup an information clearing house here. 17:30 Mode: #interdictor[-b *!*@*] by kow|wk 17:30 @ djbsquared> yea 17:30 @ djbsquared> sadly 17:30 Mode: #interdictor[-b *!*@*.crschmidt.com] by SCSi^ 17:30 @ kow|wk> no need to ban that 17:30 @ pinkish> Math: no one texted me when the DJ irc went down :/ 17:30 + Exstatica> i never did :) 17:30 @ SCSi^> thats a web applet thingy i believe 17:30 @ kow|wk> true, you didn't 17:30 @ kow|wk> touche' 17:31 + Exstatica> SCSi^, you run dead journal right? 17:31 + Exstatica> sorry i know no chatter :) 17:31 + Exstatica> +, 17:31 @ SCSi^> uhh 17:31 + Exstatica> do +m 17:32 @ kow|wk> it is +m 17:32 + Exstatica> quick 17:32 + Exstatica> it is 17:32 @ SCSi^> wtf 17:32 + Exstatica> :) 17:32 @ kow|wk> plz 17:32 + enwilson> That's handy 17:32 @ kow|wk> use /msg 17:32 Mode: #interdictor[+i] by lilo 17:32 + Bakudan> O_O 17:32 Mode: #interdictor[-i] by lilo 17:32 @ lilo> so that was idiotic 8) 17:32 @ SCSi^> thats pretty hard core 17:33 @ lilo> we had already started catching them though 17:33 + Bakudan> what just happened? 17:33 @ pinkish> All hell breaking loose 17:33 @ djbsquared> hey lilo 17:33 @ jon787> Bakudan: we had a skiddie flood 17:33 @ pinkish> and somefixing 17:33 @ lilo> Bakudan: some kiddie decided that public service is a bad thing 17:33 + ratman2> the damned kiddies need to go the F HOME 17:33 @ lilo> yes they do 17:33 + enwilson> The IRC version of a flash mob, only dumber 17:34 @ Donny> Sorry guys. Eathing dinner and resting for 30 seconds. 17:34 + ratman2> idiots 17:34 @ lilo> enwilson: flash mobs aren't actively negative, are they? 17:34 + Bakudan> It's a shame that tcp/ip doesn't support the "Punch" packet 17:34 + enwilson> Depends on what they're flashing, I guess. 17:34 @ lilo> enwilson: yeah, I'm not that familiar with the terminology 17:35 + osiris_-> Since donny is stepping out for a sec: 17:35 + osiris_-> Bush administration funding cuts forced federal engineers to delay improvements on the levees, floodgates and pumping stations that failed to protect New Orleans from Hurricane Katrina's floodwaters, agency documents show. ( http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16466380-1702,00.html ) 17:35 @ hfx_ben> sorry but my PM has failed: 17:35 @ hfx_ben> Fligtar fligtar see http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/About_nola-intel.org and msg Batuna 17:36 + Bakudan> the wiki page has been bumped to the commented section of totalfark - i'll shout if it hits the main page 17:36 @ DR|> http://stfunoob.com/nola/scanner.pls now has a relay added for the second stream. 17:36 @ mathy> we are linking that into the wiki, stat 17:38 @ hfx_ben> http://216.14.30.229:8001/ is solid 17:39 Mode: #interdictor[+o Nox_] by michaelloftis 17:40 + Bakudan> Hotels in downtown NOLA are evacuating guests as quickly as possible 17:40 + Bakudan> http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_09.html#075967 17:40 @ djbsquared> they still have guests? 17:40 + Bakudan> The Ritz does 17:40 + Bakudan> Canal Street hotel 17:40 + Bakudan> they can't get buses to get them out 17:41 + Bakudan> 50 ppl at the Mariott 17:41 @ Donny> Yes. Most of they were evacuated today. Most of them were walking. 17:41 + enwilson> Oh, Al Sharpton on MSNBC right now 17:41 @ hfx_ben> 80MTR SARES is hopping now ... wish NOLA was as solid 17:42 @ djbsquared> Donny: the glare is only showing boxes on the webcam now, if you guys are looking to give us anything different 17:42 @ solcita> Gods, not Sharpton. 17:42 + enwilson> On the topic of the looters 17:42 + skep> ... 17:43 @ Donny> Webcam is moving 17:43 @ djbsquared> haha, alright 17:43 @ djbsquared> they are beautiful boxes though :P 17:43 @ Donny> nothing like cisco boxes as a desk. 17:44 @ djbsquared> a friend of mine will make furniture out of whatever he can get his hands on 17:44 @ hfx_ben> All flights over NOLA suspended during hours of darkness 17:44 + joeldg> yea, those are nice boxes 17:45 @ djbsquared> i prefer those plastic tables from costco for a desk 17:46 + Bakudan> Schools in St Tammany are looking for Oct 1 as a reopening goal 17:46 @ hfx_ben> again, apologies: drue http://ve3nsv.no-ip.org:8000/canwarnlive 17:47 @ djbsquared> Donny: who was waving? 17:47 @ Donny> Not sure. I'm the one with the hat in the back. 17:47 @ djbsquared> ahh yes, i see you sitting at the laptop 17:48 @ djbsquared> tell me you guys are at least watching something besides the news? 17:48 @ Donny> Nope. Only the news. 17:48 + Guy-Smiley> I watched The Simpsons earlier 17:49 + Guy-Smiley> oh oops 17:49 + Guy-Smiley> haha, sorry 17:49 @ djbsquared> Donny: CSI is gonna be on soon 17:49 + theagent> I can stream you Firefly! 17:49 @ djbsquared> mmmm firefly 17:49 @ Donny> We get 1 channgel. wwl channel 4. Nothing else. News from 6am until 11pm and then we get nothing. 17:49 + theagent> or Battlestar Galactica 17:49 + Exstatica> They are trying to fix the levy in the next few hours 17:49 + Exstatica> and get the pumps started 17:49 + Exstatica> this is all from abc news 17:49 + enwilson> Donny: I've got a few gigs available for FTP and a few files...if you guys need some other diversions pumped in, I'll be happy to open up. 17:50 Mode: #interdictor[+o chbarrett] by djbsquared 17:50 @ chbarrett> ty 17:50 @ djbsquared> im not in the other one 17:50 + Bakudan> Donny: check out red vs blue if you have a lil bandwidth to spare 17:50 + Bakudan> http://rvb.roosterteeth.com 17:50 + Guy-Smiley> I have tons of MP3s if you'd like some music 17:50 + theagent> This Spartan Life is also very good 17:50 @ djbsquared> spartan? what? 17:50 @ mathy> GUYS 17:50 @ mathy> WAY OFF TOPIC 17:51 Mode: #interdictor[-vv theagent Guy-Smiley] by mathy 17:51 @ agentace> whoa, what the hell 17:51 @ agentace> this isn't some mp3 warez channel guys :P 17:51 + enwilson> mmkay, fair enough 17:51 + Exstatica> abcnews: army corps engineers are bring helicopters in to drop concreate blocks to create a damn 17:51 @ djbsquared> mathy: whoa, Guy-Smiley was giving good news 17:51 + Exstatica> dam 17:51 @ mathy> djbsquared: good news of... mp3s? 17:51 + Exstatica> st bernard parish 17:51 Mode: #interdictor[+v Guy-Smiley] by mathy 17:52 Mode: #interdictor[+v theagent] by selcouth 17:52 @ djbsquared> he told Donny he was willing to stream music they wanted something else to do, i dont see teh problem 17:52 @ mathy> sorry guy, keep the news up, try not to entice people talking about mp3s... we're trying to factor information here. 17:52 @ mathy> i spose anything for donny is ok :) 17:52 @ djbsquared> especially after he mentioned they only have 1 channel 17:52 + Exstatica> They are also putting a man made bridge 17:52 + Guy-Smiley> :) 17:52 @ Donny> We do have ipods. :) 17:52 @ agentace> hehe, ok...I thought this was about to turn into "u giev me teh mp3z, keke?" 17:52 + theagent> thanks 17:53 @ djbsquared> i think sirius lets you sign up for 3 free days of streaming sattelite 17:53 @ SCSi^> going home guys, be good 17:53 + Guy-Smiley> hehe 17:53 @ mathy> agentace: thats what I thot too, sure looked like it. 17:53 @ agentace> shoutcasting to camp crystal is a good idea ;) 17:53 @ mathy> sorry im doing a billion things here trying to organize all this 17:53 + theagent> yeah... trying reading the thread 17:53 @ mathy> its pretty hard. 17:53 @ djbsquared> its cool 17:53 @ agentace> mathy: what are you doing? 17:53 + theagent> well trust some of that have been on here for like 10 hours! 17:53 @ mathy> my next project is to upate the wiki page witht he 2ndary feed info 17:53 @ agentace> uhh 17:53 @ djbsquared> but this is freenode, i dont let the convo deteriorate into warez 17:53 @ mathy> and then start a transcribing effort and log it to http 17:53 @ agentace> I started this channel like 24 hours ago :p 17:53 @ mathy> like the first. 17:54 @ mathy> agentace: i started the wiki and the nola-intel.org website/domain with 5-6 others last night too 17:54 @ agentace> mathy: awesome 17:54 @ SCSi^> my server blew up last night!~ 17:54 @ SCSi^> well, it ran out of file descriptors, and i didnt wanna have to restart the ircd to increase it 17:54 @ SCSi^> :)_ 17:54 @ djbsquared> SCSi^: what server? 17:54 + theagent> this is a great distraction for you guys if you want to catch a breather: http://www.thisspartanlife.com/ interviews done in HALO2 game space 17:55 @ SCSi^> irc.deadjournal.com 17:55 @ djbsquared> ahh 17:56 + Exstatica> abcnews: st bernard st canal will be done by tomorrow morning/afternoon 17:56 @ agentace> Exstatica: taht's good news 17:56 + Exstatica> abcnews: then they go to the london creek canal 17:57 + Exstatica> correction, london ave, not london creek 17:57 @ chbarrett> apparently Police Chief Eddie Compass tried to send 88 officers into the convention center, but they were beaten back by the mob. He is quoted as saying individuals are being raped. 17:57 @ chbarrett> (no source) 17:57 @ hfx_ben> awwww geez radio reports they might be running low on flares 17:57 @ djbsquared> nukes > flares. 17:58 @ hfx_ben> oops ... that's Baton Rouge feed 17:58 + rcalise> chbarrett, although there were no numbers, that report was given by CNN on TV an hour or so ago 17:58 @ djbsquared> im also pretty sure i heard that early this afternoon, dont know where though 17:58 @ Nite_Hawk> chbarret: one sec, let me get a URL for that, it's from AP. 17:59 @ chbarrett> Nite_Hawk: cool 17:59 @ chbarrett> Just figured I'd relay it here. 17:59 @ agentace> does anyone know if they were able to get city hall up and running? 18:00 @ Nite_Hawk> source for the earlier quote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/ap_on_re_us/hurricane_katrina 18:00 Mode: #interdictor[+v chbarrett] by chbarrett 18:01 @ chbarrett> hm 18:02 @ pinkish> dude 18:02 @ agentace> the hell, heh 18:02 @ Donny> We brought a router to city hall today. And now they have phones. We met with I think Siemens who accepted the router and went to business getting it installed. 18:02 @ mathy> chbarrett: where did you hear that then? 18:02 @ agentace> Donny: cool, good job on that 18:02 @ chbarrett> mathy: from the other channel 18:02 @ mathy> ah an AP info feed. 18:03 @ mathy> wonder who in the media is in here 18:03 @ pinkish> ask :) 18:03 + Guy-Smiley> yeah. who here are media people? 18:03 + Exstatica> abcnews: temps will reach 93 tomorrow 18:03 @ pinkish> If you're a media person, PM me 18:04 @ pinkish> there 18:04 @ mathy> Donny: can you comment on VOIP capabilities for you and surrounding locations you helped. Any wifi in the area there you can provide for voip base service? 18:04 @ pinkish> no one isPMing 18:04 @ djbsquared> pinkish: i doubt there is any real media 18:04 Mode: #interdictor[+z] by chbarrett 18:04 @ mathy> MOB GONE TO MONSANTO PLANT 18:04 @ mathy> EMPLOYEES TRYING TO DIAL 911 18:04 @ djbsquared> IRC is isnt what we usually call a reliable information source 18:04 @ mathy> - from the scanner feed 18:04 @ agentace> mathy: damn 18:04 @ mathy> huge pharmaceutical company 18:04 @ djbsquared> they make RBGH 18:04 @ mathy> they make 1000s of drugs, nutrasweet, GMO crops 18:04 + Bakudan> ohhh thats no good 18:05 + Guy-Smiley> crap 18:05 @ djbsquared> they will have crazy people hopped up on cow growth horomone 18:05 Mode: #interdictor[-z] by djbsquared 18:05 @ mathy> hahah 18:05 + Bakudan> -z? 18:05 @ mathy> personal note on the 2-chan scan: "you need a place to stay? cmon by the house, we have electricty and everything." 18:05 @ Donny> I wish we had voip. I have a phone sitting next to me. Our telecom guy is helping the city try to get up and dealing with trying to get our 3 other oc3's back up. 18:05 @ djbsquared> Donny: what about skype? 18:05 + Exstatica> Donny, do you know how to configure your voip phone? 18:06 + GrapedFert> Makes you wonder just what type of things were released into the environment as a result of this. 18:06 + Exstatica> I can give you access to a gateway 18:06 @ djbsquared> i dont know how much it costs, but you can buy outgoing minutes, and they can even set you up with a phone number 18:06 @ mathy> Donny: how do you safely get to and from remote locations in the city? go in a 2-3 person armed convoy? 18:06 @ selcouth> Skype/Gizmo should work. 18:06 @ hfx_ben> John_K apologies; my PM has failed ... I must leave. bye 18:06 @ Donny> I don't know, but our telecom guy from i-55 does. He has kidney stones right now so he's not doing too well. 18:06 @ djbsquared> Donny: http://skype.com 18:06 @ djbsquared> look at skype-out and skype-in 18:07 @ selcouth> Gizmo is $5 for an incoming number and like $.18 per hour or something out 18:07 @ djbsquared> not very bandwith intensive either 18:07 @ Donny> We did go out for the first time today in a while, while we were waiting for the national guard to bring us some diesel. 18:07 @ selcouth> 10kb/s 18:08 Mode: #interdictor[+v John_K] by agentace 18:08 + Exstatica> Donny, what kind of phone is it, I can walk you through configuration to get you a number and minutes 18:08 @ djbsquared> but you know, it works, so its worth it 18:09 @ Donny> Exstatica: All of it goes through our switch in the data center. We are just waiting for our guy to liven up some. 18:10 + Exstatica> Donny, just making sure 18:10 @ mathy> JESUS FUCKING ANIMALS 18:10 @ mathy> sorry. 18:10 @ djbsquared> thats why gizmo would work... its all on the comp side 18:10 @ mathy> scanner reporting guys shooting the entergy workers trying to restore power. 18:10 + ratman2> what now Mathy 18:10 @ mathy> these peopel need to be jailed. or shot on sight in this situation. 18:10 + rcalise> ratman2, armed subjects attacking trucks 18:10 + Guy-Smiley> jeez 18:10 + ratman2> they are terrorists 18:10 + Bakudan> mathy - option 2 18:11 @ mathy> they truly are. 18:11 + John_K> Donny, dont' want to bother you too much but you all are welcome to use the Gallery I setup at http://katrina.kelley.ca to post pictures 18:11 + ratman2> and need to be sent to Iraqw\ 18:11 + Bakudan> give me a rifle and I'll go over and play tag with them 18:11 Mode: #interdictor[+o EV1-DanielC] by Soms 18:11 + John_K> I'm a Gallery developer and we figured it's the least we could do to help you guys out a bit 18:11 @ EV1-DanielC> anyone else hearing morse code? 18:11 + Bakudan> It'll be like Halo! 18:11 + rcalise> EV1-DanielC, not right now, i'll listen for it 18:11 @ EV1-DanielC> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net:8000 18:12 + theagent> Gizmo is great... works very well 18:12 @ agentace> EV1-DanielC: yes 18:12 + John_K> EV1-DanielC: that link seems to be down 18:12 + theagent> EV1-DanielC, the repeaters identify themselves via morse 18:13 @ EV1-DanielC> Ok, should I change the source for the relay then? 18:13 + John_K> your source isn't down, your shoutcast server is 18:13 + Bakudan> detroit willing to house refugees - http://www.clickondetroit.com/weather/4926968/detail.html 18:14 @ djbsquared> thats a really bad idea 18:14 @ djbsquared> i love my city 18:14 @ djbsquared> but it is not for outsiders 18:14 + theagent> you guys need to make a plea to someone with an Asterisk/PSTN system for access via SIP or IAX 18:14 + Bakudan> i think detroit is probably a tad too far north anyway 18:14 + Exstatica> theagent, i already offered 18:14 @ EV1-DanielC> If my shoutcast server was down, I couldn't connect to it to receive audio 18:14 + theagent> unfortunately mine is currently being rebuilt 18:15 @ djbsquared> Bakudan: not if there are so many people 18:15 @ EV1-DanielC> does anyone have the location for the original that I was relaying earlier? 18:15 + theagent> Exstatica, you shall be blessed ;-) 18:15 @ Donny> Right now New Orleans is not for anybody. 18:15 @ Dark-Fx> so, did I miss anything in the past 3 hours? 18:15 @ djbsquared> teh silverdome is empty though 18:15 + theagent> all the audio feeds are listed on the wiki 18:15 + rcalise> EV1-DanielC, was it http://www.radioreference.com:8080/lspbtr ? 18:15 + Exstatica> be back in 20 minutes going home :) 18:16 + Bakudan> Donny - do you guys have any plans to move DirectNIC out of the city at some point? 18:16 + StuntMonkey> Donny - grab a flight to NZ and you guys are welcome here 18:16 @ Amish_Hooker> all the relays should be coming back up 18:16 @ EV1-DanielC> no... 18:16 + Guy-Smiley> talomh a break, see you guys later 18:16 @ EV1-DanielC> but that one is being relayed now 18:16 + Guy-Smiley> taking 18:16 @ mathy> from sollioquy: on the rape claim 18:16 @ mathy> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-superdome1sep01,0,4489032.story?coll=la-home-headlines 18:17 @ EV1-DanielC> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net:8080/lspbtr.m3u 18:18 @ Nite_Hawk> More information about the rapes, unknown credibility: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15922236&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=dead-bodies--rape-crack--gunshots--filth-and-a-sickening-stench-filling-the-thick-air--name_page.html 18:18 + StuntMonkey> Nite_Hawk 18:18 + StuntMonkey> The mirror is shit 18:18 + StuntMonkey> CRAP 18:18 + StuntMonkey> bogus BULL 18:18 @ Donny> We are working on an alternative plan. but you have to consider, if we shut the place down or we run out of gas or whatever. The odds of us coming back is rare. Think about it. 18:18 + Mrdini> Nite_Hawk, FYI, don't trust the Mirror 18:19 + Mrdini> they're a senstationalist paper/tabloid 18:19 @ Soms> Leaving for the store, picking up supplies for DirectNIC to have tomorrow 18:19 @ Nite_Hawk> StuntMonkey: thanks 18:19 @ Donny> Soms, thank you so much. And don't get us anything special. 18:20 + Bakudan> Donny - thats what I mean. Given how long they esitmate pumping out the city, and the questioning of even rebuilding - have you guys just considered up and moving permenantly? 18:20 @ Soms> oh donny I am getting you the lacey panties 18:20 @ Donny> hahahahaha 18:20 @ Soms> did you want the pink ones or purple ones 18:20 @ mathx> scanner: 15 busses looking for escorts. 18:20 + joeldg> question rebuilding? 18:20 @ mathx> amazing that they cant travel without army security escorts 18:21 @ Donny> Bakudan: Yes we have. But only as a last resort. 18:21 @ Donny> I like lavendar. 18:21 + theagent> waiting for something bad to happen... the sun has finally set. 18:21 @ Soms> oh a mix of pink and purple? 18:21 + joeldg> why? they rebuild las angeles and they build that place on top of the worst fault there is.. 18:21 @ Soms> don't think I wont get them either 18:21 @ Soms> hehe 18:21 @ Donny> Thanks. Anything is awesome! 18:21 @ Soms> alright well gone 18:21 + theagent> San Andreas is not "the worst" fault, bad but not the worst 18:22 @ mathy> guys. topic. 18:22 + Bakudan> Donny - I'd love to help. If nothing else you guys will have my business as soon as you come back up to 100% 18:22 @ djbsquared> rebuilding wont be the worst part, cleaning it up will be 18:22 Mode: #interdictor[+o SCSi^Home] by SCSi^ 18:23 @ Donny> Yeah, this place STINKS! But our CEO stinks worse! Nothing like working with diesel for 5 days with no shower. 18:23 + theagent> flushing out the entire water infrastructure will be a nightmare 18:23 @ Donny> Bakudan: Thank you! 18:23 @ EV1-DanielC> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net for links to mirrored images/photos/sites also audio feed. 18:23 @ EV1-DanielC> If anyone can suggest more to mirror, let me know. 18:23 @ agentace> Donny: haha, Sigmund a walking Diesel fume? 18:23 @ djbsquared> nothing like the smell of diesel... all... day... long... 18:23 @ michaelloftis> Donny: go get some fast orange or gojo, that's abotu the only thing that'll get oil off ya. 18:23 + Bakudan> NEWS: Fats Domino found alive 18:23 @ pinkish> Not you Frank 18:23 + Bakudan> http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/01/katrina.fats.domino/index.html 18:23 + theagent> I wish we could get a solid webcam feed... I keep rebuffering 18:23 @ michaelloftis> Donny: should be able to loot it from any auto parts store ;) 18:23 @ EV1-DanielC> Ok... 18:23 @ Donny> Definitely. We are going through shirts all of the time, because we are using them as rags. 18:24 @ djbsquared> michaelloftis: cause im sure there are so many places for him to go 18:24 @ Nite_Hawk> Donny: gojo works well. 18:24 @ EV1-DanielC> problem is, I'm running a linux box... what file format is the original feed? 18:24 @ EV1-DanielC> It's only a 100megabit connection, but I guess it'd work. 18:24 @ Donny> I wouldn't loot, but maybe call them and ask if we could borrow it. 18:25 + theagent> webcam is asx I believe... if that is what you're referencing 18:25 + StuntMonkey> Donny 18:25 + StuntMonkey> Got any coke on hand? 18:25 @ Donny> StuntMonkey? 18:25 @ djbsquared> Donny: could order it online, get next day shipping :D 18:25 + StuntMonkey> If so, use it for the oil 18:26 + StuntMonkey> dilute it with a little water, works well. 18:26 + theagent> you trying to clean off battery terminals? 18:26 @ mathy> Donny: next time this happens - what do you WISH you brought more of? which top 3 items? 18:26 Mode: #interdictor[+o chbarrett] by djbsquared 18:26 @ Donny> I live and die diet coke. 18:26 @ mathy> toilet paper? coke? 18:26 @ pinkish> Cookies 18:27 @ djbsquared> Donny: better be caffienated 18:27 @ Dark-Fx> Donny: that stuff'll kill you... damn astartame... 18:27 @ Nite_Hawk> Donny: There's a napa auto parts store on S Galvez St. And Toledano St. 18:27 @ Dark-Fx> aspartame* 18:27 + enwilson> They ever get that chemical toilet set up? 18:27 @ pinkish> But it'llbea fun death 18:27 + enwilson> I remember that discussion early on 18:27 @ mathy> RE THE 2 SCANNER FEEDS: 18:27 @ mathy> 21:26 ....at least some of it seems to be. I think I'm hearing more in the 2-chan left 18:27 @ mathy> than the original feed,... 18:28 @ Nite_Hawk> Donny: there's also an autozone St. Peter (Near Orleans Ave) and N Broad AVe. 18:28 @ mathy> the 2 channel scanner left chan may be in a different spot in the radio relay system 18:28 @ Donny> portable chemical toilet, waterless soap, thousands of pairs of clothes. 18:28 @ mathy> and thus hear more or less or different traffic. 18:28 + Bakudan> mathy: so far fark has sent ~80 to the wiki 18:28 @ djbsquared> Dark-Fx: something tells me itll be the cholera or tuberculosis before the aspartame 18:28 @ chbarrett> thanks djbsquared 18:28 @ mathy> tho parts seem to be much of the original scanning feed 18:28 @ chbarrett> I shouldn't need more of that 18:28 @ chbarrett> I'm screened and irssi'd now. 18:28 @ michaelloftis> Donny: best bet is gojo, doesn't require washing off. 18:28 @ mathy> Bakudan: sent 80 people? 18:28 @ mathy> Bakudan: you link the wiki direct? 18:28 + Bakudan> Yeah - fark just counts the number of times people have clicked the link 18:29 @ michaelloftis> Donny: best bet is gojo just towel it away, takes all the grease with it. great stuff. 18:29 @ Donny> gojo, need to remember that one. 18:29 @ Donny> And we have plenty of grease on us! 18:29 @ michaelloftis> gojo makes micrell, purell, etc too 18:29 @ michaelloftis> http://www.gojo.com/ 18:30 + StuntMonkey> gojo is great 18:30 + StuntMonkey> I use it in my workshop 18:30 + StuntMonkey> but like i said, coke does suffice if your out. 18:30 @ EV1-DanielC> can someone get me feed info to relay for the original feed? 18:30 @ Donny> gojo would be perfect., 18:31 + theagent> almost all the feed data is found on the wiki 18:31 @ EV1-DanielC> thanks 18:31 @ pinkish> baking soda 18:31 + StuntMonkey> Donny, want me to fedex you some curry :> Hahaha. 18:32 @ djbsquared> Donny: started planning your vacation yet? 18:32 + theagent> maybe Dale Jarrett could race the truck to you.... 18:32 @ michaelloftis> Donny: yeah...i got the feeling not a one of you guys are grease monkeys. :) did you figure out the oil check on the genny? you can check it while it's running, just wear long sleeves, gloves and watch your eyes, it somtimes will splurt/splash a bit out the dip tube. 18:33 @ Donny> Fedex doesn't have any trucks here, they have all been stolen! 18:33 + Mrdini> michael, er.... wouldn't the oil be REALLY hot? 18:34 + StuntMonkey> What kind of generator? 18:34 + StuntMonkey> Cummins? 18:34 + StuntMonkey> Catr? 18:34 + Bakudan> Anyone hear of an earthquake that just happened in SF? 18:34 @ Donny> We are going to be checking the oil in the morning. We are all somewhat clean right now. 18:34 @ Donny> It's an Onan something. 18:35 + Botunda> Bakudan: Earthquake? 18:35 + Botunda> What earthquake? 18:35 + Knobee> plz provide URL of earthquake 18:35 + Botunda> yes please 18:35 Mode: #interdictor[+v SimonPhotography] by pinkish 18:35 + StuntMonkey> Yup Onan is cummins 18:36 + Bakudan> Just something I saw in the comments on fark 18:36 + Bakudan> no URL 18:36 + Knobee> http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/latest.htm 18:36 + Botunda> dang it 18:36 + StuntMonkey> check us latests warnings 18:36 + Knobee> yes, there it is.. 4.0 18:36 + Knobee> no big deal 18:36 +SimonPhotograph> donny, do you need any physical help? fuel, supplies, manpower, arms? 18:36 @ michaelloftis> mrdini: yes, but it is mostly safe, i've done it before, not on that specific model genset, and i talked to cummins/onan techs who said that it is safe procedure on that unit. 18:36 @ pinkish> 4.8 is nothing 18:36 @ pinkish> I didn't feel it in Long Beach 18:36 @ michaelloftis> mrdini asked if the oil would be really hot heh 18:37 + Botunda> yeah, just is that my GF is on her way out there 18:37 @ michaelloftis> oh wait he's +v. sorry peeps. 18:37 @ michaelloftis> nevermind the retard here. 18:37 Mode: #interdictor[+o NoxAlpha] by Soms 18:37 + StuntMonkey> michaelloftis - great, I was just asking about the brands as ive worked on several diesel generators before 18:37 + Botunda> her dad was joking about having "the" EQ 18:37 + Botunda> bastard 18:37 Mode: #interdictor[+o ICMB] by michaelloftis 18:37 Mode: #interdictor[+o NoxAlpha] by Nite_Hawk 18:37 + Bakudan> well i'm in florida so i doesn't affect me - just wondering 18:37 @ ICMB> http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_national/neworleanssatellite/index.html 18:37 @ djbsquared> hahaha 18:37 + StuntMonkey> just wanted to make sure your all safe with it 18:38 @ mathy> ok 18:38 @ michaelloftis> stuntmonkey: the unit they have is a Cummins/Onan 750DFHA....really big brute. 18:38 @ mathy> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net:8080/lspbtr.m3u is the 2 chan feed 18:38 @ mathy> need some people to transcribe the RIGHT CHANNEL 18:39 @ mathy> just hear someone in right chan say "we got stuff in these boxes we didnt expect to get... we really need an escort to transport this." 18:40 + Knobee> magnitude 6 quake across the southern border of CA (northern mexico) 18:40 Mode: #interdictor[+z] by mathy 18:40 + Botunda> link please 18:40 + StuntMonkey> link 18:40 @ Donny> SimonPhotograpy: We could always use diesel, supplies (mainly cleaning supplies, waterless cleaning supplies, lysol, etc), arms (I have 2, but I know what you mean, we are fine), manpower (don't need any this second, but we haven't moved 18 barrels of diesel up 9 floors today either). 18:40 @ mathy> we can hear you guys now, keep talking. 18:40 + Knobee> http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/latest.htm 18:41 @ pinkish> now that is bad 18:41 + Botunda> mannnn! 18:41 + Bakudan> whoa a 6 now? 18:41 @ pinkish> 5 18:41 + Botunda> Is god pissed or something? 18:41 @ mathy> lets not descend into the god thing ;) 18:41 @ pinkish> 5 in SanD or LA is okay 18:41 + Botunda> did someone give him the finger or sumptin? 18:41 @ DR|> LashLarue_: read the wiki in teh topic 18:41 + Botunda> yeah yeah 18:41 @ pinkish> but in that part of Mexico it's not good 18:41 @ DR|> the* 18:41 + Botunda> sorry ;^/ 18:41 + GrapedFert> How many people at camp crystal or whatever you called it? What is your water source? 18:42 @ mathy> 18:42 @ mathy> NEED SOME VOLONTEERS TO TRANSCRIBE THE 2nd 2-chan FEMA feed right channel into #interdictor-scanner2 18:42 @ mathy> 18:42 @ mathy> oh 18:42 Mode: #interdictor[+v Textral] by mathy 18:42 + theagent> pinkish, you in Long Beach, CA? 18:42 @ mathy> Textral: ok you are listening to it? go into channel please. 18:42 @ pinkish> theagent: yes, Belmont Shore 18:42 @ mathy> if you guys want to check it out, join #-scanner2 18:42 + theagent> <--- Bixby Knolls 18:42 @ pinkish> Camp Hotness 18:42 @ pinkish> heh 18:42 @ pinkish> Oh, hi! 18:42 + Botunda> can't hear the right channel very well 18:42 @ pinkish> haha 18:43 @ Donny> somethingawful was brought down because we only have 1 oc3. They use an oc3 their self. 18:43 + Knobee> Donny: why not move those services to other datacenters? 18:43 + Bakudan> lol i bet they would 18:43 + GrapedFert> ONe can only listen to that "We like the moon" song so many times :P 18:44 @ mathy> 18:45 @ mathy> GUYS #INTERDICTOR-SCANNER2 IS OPEN FOR YOUR LISTENING/READING PLEASURE 18:45 @ Donny> We have enough people here to get things done. Not many. 18:45 + theagent> wow the scanner is getting heated 18:45 + rcalise> Donny, if you guys could use any remote help with servers etc, I'd be happy to assist. 18:46 Mode: #interdictor[+v Not_Mortini] by mathy 18:46 @ djbsquared> Donny: do you think anything would be different if they wouldnt have putzed aroudn and sent the military in on tuesday? 18:46 + Bakudan> what do you mean by heated? 18:46 + Not_Mortini> mathy: do you want more help with the 2nd chn? 18:46 @ Donny> rcalise: I will keep that in mind. Thank you. 18:46 @ mathy> Not_Mortini: saw what you wrote cuz of +z here. yes you are op'd. be good with them as i said. 18:47 + Not_Mortini> ok. 18:47 @ Donny> december: I think we are backing everything up offsite already. We have plenty of backups here. 18:47 Mode: #interdictor[+o Textral] by Soms 18:48 @ Dark-Fx> I'd offer my services, but it's highly unlikely they'd be needed anyway. 18:49 + Not_Mortini> mathy: can't talk there. 18:49 + theagent> here's a nice quote off scanner2 "be sure to have plenty of rubber gloves. It's really bad, in case you haven't gotten down in here" 18:50 + Bakudan> man i wish i could listen to the scanners 18:50 @ Dark-Fx> anthonytownsend: only ops can see your messages because the channel is +zm 18:50 + joeldg> I submitted the story about these guys to slashdot and it was rejected.. odd 18:50 EV1-DanielC* goes on a break 18:50 EV1-DanielC* goes on a break 18:50 + GrapedFert> directnic would probably get hit hard 18:51 + StuntMonkey> Donny 18:51 @ pinkish> been boingboinged already 18:51 + StuntMonkey> Do you have roof access?! 18:51 + joeldg> yes they do 18:51 @ pinkish> what does what mean? 18:51 + Bakudan> chunmaster thanks but i can't - the ports are blocked here at work 18:52 + enwilson> Slashdot hasn't really had any Katrina coverage 18:52 + enwilson> very very strange 18:52 @ mathy> Not_Mortini: you can you haveb OPS 18:52 + GrapedFert> ah, see it hit theregister 18:52 @ pinkish> boingboing.net 18:52 @ djbsquared> enwilson: slashdot is news for nerds. 18:52 @ pinkish> is the boingboinged 18:52 + theagent> you telling us that you can't get audio streamed over http? 18:52 + Bakudan> slashdot has had articles about the pumping out of the water, geeky stuff like that 18:52 + joeldg> StuntMonkey: they can get to the roof, but without elevators it would be a long haul up to the 28th floor where the access is 18:52 + theagent> port 80? 18:52 + enwilson> djb: This is the ultimate nerd story! 18:52 + Bakudan> port 80 yes, but all i've seen are 8000, 80001, and 8080 18:53 @ djbsquared> enwilson: which part? the death or the rape? 18:53 + GrapedFert> Generators providing adequate power to run AC I presume? 18:53 @ Soms> 80001 isn't possible 18:53 @ Soms> 8001 is 18:53 @ Soms> no generators dont run the ac 18:54 @ Donny> Sorry guys, I was listening to the news. 18:54 + Bakudan> lol yeah 8001 18:54 @ Soms> Donny, do you guys want me to put something awful on my server for now? 18:54 @ Donny> blanko whining again! 18:54 + Bakudan> http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24415553.jpg 18:54 + Bakudan> people have spelled out "HELP!" with debree 18:55 Mode: #interdictor[+o ICMB] by Soms 18:55 @ Donny> Anybody can get wwl. Just go to wwltv.com, they are streaming. 18:56 + Bakudan> Yeah, I've watched wwl - I was specifically hoping for the scanner feeds. ah well, theres always home 18:56 + joeldg> wwltv is only windows stream though :( no linux port for the wmp 18:56 Mode: #interdictor[+o kow^] by ICMB 18:56 @ jon787> joeldg: mplayer plays the streams on linux 18:57 + joeldg> does it? 18:57 + joeldg> I was trying with xine 18:57 + joeldg> let me see 18:57 @ Dark-Fx> joeldg: have to have the codecs for it 18:57 @ jon787> joeldg: well only for x86 18:57 @ jon787> they stole the windows DLLs 18:57 @ jon787> lostlogic: true 18:58 @ jon787> im pretty sure the microsoft WMP EULA would forbid their use in that manner ;) 18:58 + Bakudan> NOAA satellite imagery of Katrina's damage 18:58 + Bakudan> http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM 18:58 + joeldg> oh.. 18:58 + joeldg> yea.. is cool.. got the office feed running atm anyway.. 18:59 @ jon787> the worst natural disaster that could hit here is the fault line beneath my dorm changing from dormant to active 18:59 + Not_Mortini> mathy: Sorry. How does textral give me ability to speak? 19:02 + enwilson> Special Dateline on NBC...looks like a recap of what we've seen through the afternoon 19:02 + Bakudan> on another note, more minor quakes in SoCal 19:03 @ Donny> code 4 is under control 19:03 @ djbsquared> Bakudan: its socal, they always have minor quakes 19:03 @ jon787> Bakudan: doesn't SoCal get rumbles all the time? small ones are good, it means pressure isn't building up on the fault for a big one 19:03 @ Donny> Krioni: Cool. Looks really good! 19:03 + Bakudan> Ahh, living in florida i'm used to steady ground 19:03 @ Dark-Fx> Glockster: no one. 19:04 @ jon787> Bakudan: I'm not a SoCal resident, I just know a couple 19:05 Mode: #interdictor[+v soliloquy] by Soms 19:05 @ mathy> joeldg: submitted which story to slashdot? 19:05 @ Dark-Fx> Glockster: the channel modes only allow operators to see everything. 19:06 @ mathy> fragile_: what story is on wired? 19:06 @ Donny> lostlogic: Just make sure you take care of your employees and they will take care of you. All of our employees are all of the country, and all of them are working. Some of them have even gone out and bought computers to help us out remotely. 19:06 @ mathy> grapedFert: see WHAT hit the register? url? 19:06 + theagent> you can subscribe to a RSS feed from USGS for all earthquakes worldwide: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/catalogs/eqs1day-M2.5.xml 19:06 + theagent> you will be amazed at the frequency 19:07 + theagent> there is also a Dashboard widget for OSX Tiger 19:08 @ mathy> fragile_: you see only 26 people in channel because they're ops and +v's - because of +z mode, which keeps the idle chat down. To get a +voice, post us some interesting news material thats relevant. 19:08 + Bakudan> yeah there have been like 3 more in the last 10 mintes, all under two 19:08 + Bakudan> wow 19:08 @ djbsquared> they should still see a full count 19:08 @ djbsquared> its looking like we are at about 657 people right now 19:08 @ mathy> opers: please rmemeber -v people chat cant be seen by other -v - so reply to them with context so people understand. 19:08 + rcalise> djbsquared, 710 by my count 19:08 @ djbsquared> whoa.... make that 710 19:09 @ djbsquared> rcalise: between my typing and my looking back it jumped 19:09 + StuntMonkey> Whoa 19:09 + StuntMonkey> I just thought 19:09 + StuntMonkey> NIN - Bite the hand that feeds 19:09 + StuntMonkey> describes NO right now. 19:09 + Bakudan> Latest interview by the mayor - http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.wwltv.com/082905mayor.wmv 19:11 @ Donny> Describe New Orleans? Was that for me? 19:11 + Bakudan> wow water is still rising in some sections 19:11 + Bakudan> the yatcht club is on fire3 19:12 + StuntMonkey> Link? 19:12 + Bakudan> from they mayors interview i linked above 19:13 + rcalise> Donny, no, i Think StuntMonkey was saying that the Nine Inch Nails song "Bite the hand that feeds" adequately describes NOLA right now. 19:14 @ kow^> interdictor-chat, guys, for that sort of stuff 19:14 + Bakudan> Woo I think he just said that the CBD water remains uncontaminated 19:15 @ Soms> #interdictor-relief is now open 19:15 @ Donny> Yeah, I wonder if Trent is still here. Actually i think he just moved a few months ago. I have NIN's latest cd on my ipod. My only album on it. :) 19:15 + rcalise> What's that channel for, Soms? 19:15 @ Soms> this is to provide support to displaced businesses and citizens 19:16 @ Soms> aka server hosting, transportation if possible 19:16 + rcalise> ok. 19:16 @ michaelloftis> anyone have info about whats going on at the convention center? we've had a RFI for that 19:16 @ Soms> I'm checking with my local pilot club 19:16 @ Soms> we may be able to fly in 19:16 + enwilson> Interview on NBC Dateline: Only 125 policemen and 250 Guardsmen at the Superdome... 19:17 @ kow^> fragile_: to my konwledge we haven't gotten any confirmation fro anyone on the ground of that sort of stuff, except for what's in the Interdictor journal 19:17 @ kow^> LashLarue_: can you give me a url for an article or articles? 19:17 + rcalise> Soms, I don't think the airspace is open at the moment. 19:17 + enwilson> Other than that, the main new info from the show is that they finally got food to the Convention Center, but not nearly enough. 19:17 @ jon787> kow^: drudge links back to the blog on WWLTV 19:17 @ jon787> "Police say storm victims being raped, beaten inside Convention Center... " 19:17 @ Soms> Air space is open for relief operations at the airport 19:18 + enwilson> Oh, the interview was the head of police... 19:18 @ kow^> k, we've seen that then. thanks though, good to know the information is proliferating 19:18 + theagent> Fuel3 still on the air! 19:19 + Bakudan> Good ol fuel 3 19:19 +SimonPhotograph> exit 19:19 + Guy-Smiley> i'm back, is anyone covering WWL? I can keep doing that if you'd like 19:19 @ Soms> Mechcozmo who is asking for donations? 19:20 @ Soms> heh 19:20 @ jon787> jmacko: Fuel 3 is the callsign for a unit dispersing fuel around the city 19:20 @ Soms> The red cross handles there own Donations, do not donate to Dashboard 19:20 Mode: #interdictor[+v Mechcozmo] by Soms 19:20 + Mechcozmo> they say that 19:20 + Mechcozmo> they have the link to the red cross 19:20 + Mechcozmo> they're asking for people to help 19:20 + soliloquy> "just saw a video clip on CBC 19:21 @ kow^> link plz 19:21 + soliloquy> they showed people at the superdome who hadn't eaten in days. then a couple of guys took the camera man around back into a receiving area and showed him all sorts of food and drinks that were behind cages 19:21 + Bakudan> say what? 19:21 + PatrickLAW> Did they explain why, Sol? 19:21 @ kow^> soliloquy: url please? 19:21 + soliloquy> No, I was just cut and pasting what someone else said 19:22 @ jon787> nathe: you are probably right, they are rationing it because they will be there awhile 19:22 + StuntMonkey> Can we not do that, say something and not provide a source :P 19:23 + soliloquy> http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/showthread.php?s=&postid=2448103#post2448087 19:23 + Knobee> 19:24 Mode: #interdictor[+v theagent] by djbsquared 19:24 @ kow^> thx soliloquy. too bad nothing we can corroborate but thanks :) 19:24 + theagent> they're chasing a shooter on the scanner 19:25 + Bakudan> i hope they catch him and beat him 19:25 + soliloquy> No problem, I wonder if they'll have it on the website 19:25 @ jon787> Nac-SirParadox is looking for someone from nola-intel.org 19:25 @ kow^> please do not repeat any phone numbers from the scanner 19:25 @ djbsquared> Nac-SirParadox: you are looking for mathx 19:27 + Guy-Smiley> they found Fats Domino alive 19:27 @ Soms> source Guy-Smiley 19:28 + Guy-Smiley> http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20050902/en_music_eo/17283 19:28 + Bakudan> http://go.fark.com/cgi/fark/go.pl?IDLink=1648727&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2005%2FSHOWBIZ%2FMusic%2F09%2F01%2Fkatrina.fats.domino%2Findex.html 19:28 + Guy-Smiley> :) 19:28 + Bakudan> eek bad link copy 19:28 + Bakudan> but thats another for fats 19:30 @ djbsquared> Donny: is everyone at your 20's health holding up? 19:31 + Bakudan> Any news off the scanners? 19:31 + enwilson> AP--30 minutes ago: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050902/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_washington 19:32 @ kow^> new update on LJ 19:32 + theagent> they're up to the ears in crap on the scanners 19:32 + theagent> scanners are just non-stop now 19:33 + theagent> Bakudan, they are transcribing the scanners on #scanner2 19:34 @ jon787> fragile_: link? 19:34 + Bakudan> i'm on a console client - pretty much limited to a single channel 19:34 + Bakudan> logs posted anywhere? 19:34 + rcalise> Bakudan, console clients can handle multiple channels 19:35 + rcalise> http://nola.heavycomputing.ca/nola-scanner.log/ 19:35 + rcalise> logs are there 19:35 @ jon787> Bakudan: emerge yourself some irssi :) 19:35 @ jon787> im running it on two servers, 11 channels total 19:35 + Bakudan> emerge - how did you know I like gentoo? :-D using ircii right now 19:36 @ jon787> Bakudan: ctcp version :) 19:36 + Bakudan> ahh its been so long i forget all those tricks 19:36 @ Soms> those in baton rouge come to #interdictor-relief 19:37 @ Donny> Guys, I'm looking for the police scanners. Where can I find them? 19:37 @ Soms> on the wiki 19:37 @ Soms> www.redcross.org for charity 19:37 @ jon787> Donny: http://wiki.nola-intel.org/index.php/Radio_Info 19:37 + PatrickLAW> #interdictor-scanner topic, also 19:38 @ djbsquared> inter04: they are a web hosting company, they have one OC-3 line still active to their location 19:38 @ djbsquared> fiber. 19:38 + PatrickLAW> Do we have any networks not being covered right now? 19:38 @ Soms> those in or affected by the disaster please join #interdictor-relief and post 19:39 + Bakudan> patrick I don't think so 19:41 @ ICMB> http://wiki.nola-intel.com/index.php/Current_events 19:41 @ djbsquared> Nothingness: they have clearance for diesel delivery, its not a problem 19:42 @ Donny> Hopefully forever. :) 19:43 @ Donny> We have clearance. But nothing here yet. 19:43 @ Donny> Yes, guns are bad. 19:43 @ Donny> Were bad. 19:43 @ Donny> Not many people are around here anymore. 19:43 @ djbsquared> Donny: so everyones health is holding out? 19:43 @ ICMB> Have there been any attempts to come into the building by random people, Donny? 19:43 + rcalise> Donny, is anyone in your building armed? 19:43 @ Donny> Besides one guy who has decide to have kidney stones while we are here. 19:44 @ selcouth> rcalise: Yes, read the blog. 19:44 Mode: #interdictor[+v Bakudan] by djbsquared 19:44 @ Donny> He wasn't in town. He was in Hollywood on a movie set. : 19:44 + Bakudan> Thanks djb 19:44 + rcalise> selcouth, must have mussed that; will go re-read. 19:44 @ djbsquared> Donny: tell him we wish him well, i understand the pain hes going through 19:44 @ Donny> Yes. We have had attempts. We even let somebody in today to get their care out. 19:45 @ ICMB> No trouble, I hope. 19:45 @ Donny> No problems at all so far here. 19:45 @ EV1-DanielC> Ok.... 19:45 @ EV1-DanielC> 198 listeners to the stream 19:46 @ EV1-DanielC> Donny : if you want to offload anything onto the server I have running, let me know. 19:46 EV1-DanielC* is thinking about putting a better connection to it 19:46 @ EV1-DanielC> (if the 100megabit link gets saturated) 19:46 @ kow^> Guys, we're still looking for any independent or foreign news of current events. 19:47 @ kow^> If you have any, or can volunteer your time to keep your eyes open, we would appreciate it. 19:47 @ EV1-DanielC> That's what I have setup... 19:47 @ EV1-DanielC> also, mirrored all of the photos that someone sent to me 19:47 @ EV1-DanielC> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net 19:47 @ kow^> www.wwltv.com, try the bbc, or cbc <-- those are great places to start if you don't know 19:48 + rcalise> BBC doesn't have anything new at the moment, I'm monitoring their feeds. 19:48 + Bakudan> who is cbc? 19:48 + enwilson> Thinkprogress.org just posted a partial transcript of a heated exchange between Anderson Cooper and Mary Landrieu 19:48 + enwilson> http://thinkprogress.org/2005/09/01/cooper-to-landrieu-americans-want-answers/ 19:48 + StuntMonkey> NZHerald Reports bodies lay rotting in the streets and infront of hospitals while gangs of people with steel pipes, baseball bats and guns strip hospitals of medicine and drugs 19:48 + rcalise> Bakudan, Canadian Broadcasting Company 19:48 + StuntMonkey> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10343714 19:50 Mode: #interdictor[+v CompWizrd] by Soms 19:51 @ michaelloftis> jugie: fyi yes the news is ALWAYS mostly just AP reports, this is no different. 19:51 NoxAlpha: is now known as AFK|Nox 19:52 @ mathy> Guy: cover WWL please, thats great. 19:52 + JamesG_Out> Oh crap 19:52 @ kow^> saccade: do you have a translation for that? 19:52 + JamesG_Out> Just hit slashdot 19:52 @ mathy> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PLEASE READ THE /TOPIC (and nola-intel.org) BEFORE YOU ASK 19:52 @ kow^> or do you have a translation, more particularly, of any specifically new information? 19:53 + Guy-Smiley> people at the US Can Company (I think that's what it was) who were sleeping on the roof are on their way to Houston 19:53 + Guy-Smiley> says WWL 19:53 + PatrickLAW> I know the guy that wrote that /. article, just watched him do it a few hours ago 19:53 Mode: #interdictor[+v Crispy`] by Soms 19:53 Mode: #interdictor[+v iarwain1] by mathy 19:53 @ kow^> saccade: no problem, thanks though. anything you can provide is appreciated 19:54 + Bakudan> Woo slashdot power! Thank God thats to livejournal and not directnic.com - it'd kill their connection 19:54 + JamesG_Out> If enough people go to the photo page it might.. or did that move externally? 19:54 @ djbsquared> its been external all day 19:55 + JamesG_Out> k 19:55 + Crispy`> Donny: Hey, I was wondering if maybe you heard of or came across my friend... he's been setting up/organizing the set-up of many WLANs across the LA/MI area and perhaps you've heard of what he's doing? 19:55 JamesG_Out: is now known as JamesG 19:56 + Crispy`> He's working with a group of emergency crews by way of helicopter. 19:56 + Bakudan> JamesG: there are so many mirrors out there I think they'll be ok 19:57 @ agentace> Huss: yes 19:58 Mode: #interdictor[+v BeanFriedPork] by kow^ 19:58 + BeanFriedPork> thnx 19:58 @ agentace> Kirtan: well at least they won't have to worry about scurvy 19:58 + theagent> ironic, Oracle GRID commercial on MSNBC 19:59 + BeanFriedPork> Relayed from the guy in Baton Rouge I'm talking too: "National Guard that was sent in first......HAD NO WEAPONS" 19:59 Jimb076: is now known as JimboLLJK 20:00 @ agentace> BeanFriedPork: what...that's crazy 20:00 @ Donny> Joel you there? 20:00 + BeanFriedPork> "saying all our weapons are in.......tadummmmmm IRAQ" 20:00 + Guy-Smiley> what a surprise 20:00 + joeldg> yes 20:00 + joeldg> whats up? 20:00 + BeanFriedPork> Not to start politics, just relaying what I heard 20:00 + Bakudan> They probably didn't think they would need them 20:00 @ agentace> Fleshy: haha 20:00 iarwain1* thinks his realplayer client is buffering at least 30s to a min.... ) 20:00 + soliloquy> quel surprise 20:01 + joeldg> Donny what is up? 20:01 @ djbsquared> Huss: no. fucking. politics. 20:01 @ agentace> let's not start political bashing :/ 20:01 + BeanFriedPork> Probably not an exclusive, but: "Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff saying the railroads are being rebuit as quickly as possible to get these people out" 20:02 @ Donny> We have been slashdotted! 20:02 @ agentace> Donny: about time ;) 20:02 + joeldg> yes, I just commented on it 20:02 @ djbsquared> we are still hovering around 740 in here though 20:02 + Bakudan> Hopefully you guys get spared the Slahdot effect 20:02 + PatrickLAW> You can thank me for that ;) 20:02 + joeldg> they rejected it when I submitted it earlier 20:02 + StuntMonkey> Texas game wardens helping out police secure looters 20:02 + PatrickLAW> I told Aleks about this channel and the blog; he posted a ./ article 20:02 + Crispy`> Donny, it's not necessarily a good thing. ;) Prepare to meet a bunch more rude people. 20:02 + StuntMonkey> NOPD Swat securing several major department stores 20:02 + StuntMonkey> http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6951/42157351137lk.jpg 20:03 + StuntMonkey> http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/673/42157283359tc.jpg 20:03 @ djbsquared> those are federal marshalls 20:03 + John_K> that looks photoshopped 20:03 @ djbsquared> John_K: if only 20:03 + John_K> the tshirt in the first one 20:03 @ djbsquared> John_K: its texas, they cant afford fancy graphics 20:04 @ selcouth> haha 20:04 + John_K> nono it looks too clean :P 20:04 @ selcouth> I <3 Texas 20:04 @ Donny> which site? 20:04 + John_K> crisp even 20:04 + BeanFriedPork> Just for a proper attribution: the stuff I'm relaying from WAFB in Baton Rouge is via "Incubus_RSPW" on DALnet. 20:04 @ kow^> .jpg's aren't really news 20:04 + StuntMonkey> http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6935/42157292818zw.jpg 20:04 @ Donny> Anybody from livejournal.com around, just wanted to say thanks! 20:04 @ kow^> StuntMonkey: do you have a url for this stuff? 20:04 + theagent> could that be the ICE CREAM truck they were chasing earlier.... from behind it would look like an ice cream truck 20:04 @ djbsquared> Donny: is it as bright as it looks in teh cam? 20:04 + StuntMonkey> 82ND Airborune has moved in 20:05 Mode: #interdictor[+o SCSi^Home] by kow^ 20:05 @ Donny> It's outpost crystal. Mike's girlfriends name is crystal. She is the one on the cam everyonce in a while with the grey sweatshirt on. 20:05 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*@219-89-6-11.dialup.xtra.co.nz] by Soms 20:05 StuntMonkey was kicked from #interdictor by Soms (Not enough memory to displ ·5·) 20:05 Mode: #interdictor[+o ZOP_] by michaelloftis 20:06 + John_K> ahh the one waiving the wiener around 20:06 @ Soms> The 82nd IS NOT MOVING in, they have no plans to nor will they 20:06 @ djbsquared> Donny: is it really that bright? 20:06 Mode: #interdictor[+v ssavoie] by Donny 20:06 Mode: #interdictor[-b *!*@219-89-6-11.dialup.xtra.co.nz] by Soms 20:06 @ djbsquared> fragile: no 20:06 + BeanFriedPork> Baton Rouge guy: "shit I'm 90 miles away and the shits hitting the fan here" 20:07 + rafx> did they get everyone out of the convention center or gain control of it? last i heard, there was rampant raping including 10 yr old girl who had 2 ankles broken (it was on CNN) 20:07 @ Donny> We are sending all of the looters to baton rouge, sorry. 20:07 @ Soms> the marine reserves are up 20:07 @ Soms> and moving in 20:07 + BeanFriedPork> There are still like 15,000-20,000 people at the Convention center 20:08 + BeanFriedPork> They haven't even begun to evacuate them. FEMA just learned about them only hours ago. 20:08 Mode: #interdictor[+v StuntMonkey] by Soms 20:08 + rafx> i'm hoping night-vision equip our troops have can help them wipe out the armed bandits inside the convention center 20:08 + BeanFriedPork> Violence isn't as much of a problem there. 20:08 + BeanFriedPork> But ten people have died there just waiting 20:08 + BeanFriedPork> From things like kidney failure 20:09 + BeanFriedPork> Elderly, diabetics, kidney patients, etc. 20:09 + BeanFriedPork> People just keeling over and dying. 20:09 Mode: #interdictor[+v Sandoz] by mathy 20:09 @ kow^> BeanFriedPork: please tell me you have a url for once? :| 20:09 + Crispy`> Yeah, so guy said "Hey, is there anyone sleeping here" and when someone in the area said no, he just dragged two dead bodies there and left. 20:09 + BeanFriedPork> Health worker: "I haven't seen a wound today that wasn't infected" 20:09 + Crispy`> some guy* 20:09 + BeanFriedPork> I'm just relaying what I saw on MSNBC here, sorry 20:10 @ lilo> odd, we seem to have lost some folks through a web connect 20:10 + BeanFriedPork> I will look for an online transcript of the WAFB stuff though 20:10 @ Donny> Intercosmos is still here though. 20:10 @ Donny> Yes. I am Donny 20:10 + Bakudan> heh from a fark thread 20:10 + Bakudan> "An 18 year old stole a school bus and loaded it with strangers and drove to the Astrodome." 20:10 + Not_Mortini> can someone edit the main page on wiki.nola-intel.org ? 20:10 + Bakudan> i'll try to confirm 20:10 + enwilson> Well, here's a link that might tie in with the kidney failure thing 20:10 @ Soms> haha Bakudan that would be intresting 20:11 + enwilson> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10343644 20:11 @ mathy> Badukan: stole from where? 20:11 AFK|Nox: is now known as NoxAlpha 20:11 michaelloftis: is now known as ZOP 20:11 @ selcouth> generelz> report from a red cross volunteer in the astrodome: http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=49364 20:11 + Bakudan> I dunno i'm trying to look 20:11 + Guy-Smiley> when, bakudan? I heard that the first bus that came to the astrodome last night was 20 years old 20:11 + Guy-Smiley> got that from CNN 20:12 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*=a97867f3@*.ipt.aol.com] by djbsquared 20:12 ZOG was kicked from #interdictor by djbsquared (i don't like you.) 20:12 @ mathy> wow 20:12 + Sandoz> did anyone see shepard smith arguing with oreilly? 20:12 @ mathy> hit the scanner1 channel 20:12 @ mathy> check the personal talk :) 20:12 + Not_Mortini> can someone edit the main page on wiki.nola-intel.org ? 20:12 @ mathy> 23:12 < JaySuds> http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/noads/0905/01houstonkatrina.html (bus) 20:12 @ mathy> Not_Mortini: what you need edited. 20:13 + Not_Mortini> (Since about 3PM EST on 9/1, the scanners have been fairly quiet) 20:13 ZOP: is now known as michaelloftis 20:13 + Not_Mortini> that should be removed. 20:13 @ kow^> this confirms the fark statement: A young man, behind the wheel of a bus from New Orleans, looks on after he drove himself, and people he picked up along the road, to the Astrodome in Houston. 20:13 @ mathy> Not_Mortini: which scanners? 20:13 @ mathy> Not_Mortini: the scanners im listening 2 in both ears (one scanner per ear), 20:13 @ mathy> are very very active. 20:13 + rcalise> kow^, link? 20:13 + Not_Mortini> Yes. 20:13 + Bakudan> Found it! 20:13 @ agentace> mathy: hehe 20:13 + Not_Mortini> Hence why it needs to be removed :) 20:13 + Bakudan> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory2/3334317 20:13 @ mathy> Not_Mortini: what needs to be removed? 20:13 @ agentace> mathy: multiplexing audio input? :P 20:13 + Bakudan> Police told the 20-year old to take the bus 20:14 + Not_Mortini> (Since about 3PM EST on 9/1, the scanners have been fairly quiet) <- that line :) 20:14 @ mathy> oh 20:14 @ mathy> duh. k thanks. 20:14 @ Soms> anyone with a flat bottomed boat in between NY and NC or OK, AL, LA please join #interdictor-relief 20:14 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*=450e8a4a@*.crschmidt.net] by djbsquared 20:14 inter67 was kicked from #interdictor by djbsquared (you're bothering me) 20:15 @ mathy> agentace: one channel per scanner. kinda fun to listen to, har dto concentrate but often works well 20:15 @ djbsquared> anyone else? 20:15 + Bakudan> Arg I just pulled a can of soup out of my desk and now I feel bad :'( 20:15 @ agentace> djbsquared: what the hell man? 20:15 + rcalise> djbsquared, fyi, that's a web client 20:15 @ djbsquared> agentace: im kicking tards 20:16 @ agentace> djbsquared: must you act all mr. bad ass about it? 20:16 @ djbsquared> agentace: if they want to act that way, ill take care of it, dont see the problem 20:16 + StuntMonkey> A small sailboat that washed ashore is dwarfed by the USS Alabama -- a WWII battleship decommissioned 40-years ago which has survived countless hurricanes at sea and while docked in Mobile, Alabama -- lists about 8-degrees 01 September 2005 after Hurricane Katrina moved the 80-million pound warship into a new position. Officials say Katrina's storm surge and pounding waves did the heavy lifting 20:16 + StuntMonkey> http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/53921464.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=72DA33A2A672189A31DACEFF77C35ABCA9C30E9B9B114CE8 20:17 @ djbsquared> a) that ban will rescind at teh end of 5 minutes 20:17 @ djbsquared> b) that was an individual user 20:18 @ djbsquared> why would you get kicked after 5 minutes? 20:18 @ djbsquared> leesa: it is in some channels 20:18 @ mathy> 20:18 @ mathy> 20:19 @ mathy> EVERYONE WHO KEEPS ASKNG ABOUT THE DUAL SCANNER FEED PLEASE READ THE WIKI AT http://nola-intel.org ABOUT SCANNER FEED URLS AND TRANSCRIPTION CHANNELS 20:19 @ mathy> the dual feed one (2 channel) is the 2nd feed listed. 20:19 Mode: #interdictor[-b *!*=450e8a4a@*.crschmidt.net] by djbsquared 20:20 @ jon787> actually the USS Alabama is only 35,000 tons 20:20 kow^: is now known as kow|EatingDinner 20:20 @ jon787> which makes it 70 million pounds 20:20 + BeanFriedPork> The USS Alabama is resting on a sandbar or something? 20:20 @ agentace> lostlogic: they had to take it down because they lost some lines...I'm sure when they regain them SA will go back up 20:20 @ jon787> lostlogic: somethingawful will return when they get some of the fiber lines back up 20:21 + Guy-Smiley> Congress is providing $10.5 Billion for relief 20:21 @ agentace> Congress doesn't meet until tomorrow :P 20:21 + Guy-Smiley> not sure if that's been said already 20:21 + Guy-Smiley> :p 20:21 + rcalise> Guy-Smiley, it has. 20:21 + Guy-Smiley> thought so 20:21 @ jon787> http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/BB60.htm - for anyone curious about the USS Alabama 20:22 @ djbsquared> b0rgy: we agree, but we are trying not to degrade into politics in here 20:23 + BeanFriedPork> A friend from Biloxi (who now lives in Texas) just told me the USS Alabama is/was a museum apparently 20:23 @ mathy> Donny: still around? 20:23 @ mathy> 23:20 < lostlogic> Is something awful down indefinitely or is there a plan to 20:23 @ mathy> bring it back up at some point in the near future? 20:23 @ agentace> BeanFriedPork: yeah it is, I've been on it a few times...pretty interesting...there's also a decommissioned sub next to it 20:23 @ jon787> BeanFriedPork: correct, people ride out hurricanes on it 20:23 @ jon787> I saw a news report before the storm hit when they were reporting from it 20:24 @kow|EatingDinne> probably not much to loot in office buildings, b0rgy, 20:24 @ jon787> b0rgy: they aren't disclosing their defense precautions 20:24 + BeanFriedPork> Yeah, the guy's a mortician. Says he is trying to volunteer to go back to his home down and do whatever's needed. 20:24 @ djbsquared> r2tincan: it will be back when SBC gets the rest of their data lines back up 20:24 + BeanFriedPork> "home down" = home town 20:25 @ mathy> b0rgy: pleae read the Wiki and the q&a section, they answered yoru questions. 20:25 + theagent> they're looking for volunteers to transcribe on scanner2 20:25 @ mathy> VOLONTEERS on -SCANNER2 CHANNEL PLEASE 20:25 @ mathy> b0rgy: dont read the BLOG, Read the http://nola-intel.org WIKI 20:26 @ Donny> Sorry, guys, my wife actually got through and I talked to her on the phone. 20:26 + Guy-Smiley> WWL: Texas has agreed to take in 50,000 people, which ups the total to 75,000 20:26 + rcalise> Glad to hear you got to talk to her, Donny 20:26 @ djbsquared> Donny: congrats 20:26 @ agentace> Donny: awesome, good that you got to talk with her 20:26 @ mathy> DONNY++ YAY!!! 20:26 @ agentace> CelinaInCA: haha 20:26 + Crispy`> Donny: Sweet! That's awesome. 20:27 @ Donny> She is doing great. She's in Tennessee with her mom. 20:27 @ agentace> Donny: awesome, nice and safe 20:27 + Crispy`> That's good. at least she's safe. 20:27 @ Donny> My son freaked out. 20:27 @ mathy> 20:27 @ mathy> opers please remember the +z means -o-v people cant see eachother's comments, if you respond there's no context. 20:27 + Crispy`> New pics posted on the blog, if it wasn't already said here. 20:27 @ The_Tick> mathy: there is for us! 20:27 @ mathy> the_tick, yes but we should be considerate of the 650 others odd 20:27 @ djbsquared> mathy: but they can see what they ask 20:28 @ The_Tick> bah, what have they done for us anyhow? 20:28 The_Tick* hides 20:28 @ djbsquared> lol 20:28 + theagent> The_Tick, causing trouble here just like #joiito ;-) 20:28 + joeldg> congrats donny, don't know how she got through 20:28 @ The_Tick> theagent: of course 20:29 @ agentace> draciav: what's Fox showing? 20:29 @ Donny> Guys, has anybody found a nopd stream? We want to see what is going on here. 20:29 Mode: #interdictor[+v CelinaInCA] by agentace 20:29 @ mathy> djbsquared: yes they can see their own questions, but when someone says "wow alot of peopel in here" and we answer "yeah!" 90% of the channel goes "WTF?" 20:29 @ michaelloftis> BTW major thanks go out to the transcriptionists in scanner and scanner2!!!!! you all rock! 20:29 @ djbsquared> mathy: so just tell them there are hallucinating 20:29 + theagent> FOX repeating earlier O'Reilly show 20:30 @ mathy> michaelloftis: WE NEED MORE TRANSCRIPTORS 20:30 @ mathy> NEED TO KEEP IT UP OVERNIGHT 20:30 + theagent> oh hold... maybe this is new 20:30 @ mathy> PLEASE VOLONTEER 20:30 @ mathy> CSMan: are we on slashdot? 20:30 + Bakudan> I would but my typing sucks :( 20:30 @ Donny> Yes we are on slashdot. 20:30 + theagent> mathy, it would be transcriptionist 20:30 @kow|EatingDinne> If you'd like to volunteer to do scanner transcription overnight, please message an op. 20:30 + theagent> ;-) 20:30 @ mathy> 20:30 @ The_Tick> mathy: you may ask in #growl and #adium for transcriptors if you like 20:30 @ mathy> SPEEDY TYPISTS VOLONTEER IN THE RESPECTIVE CHANNELS PLEASE FOR SCANNERS 20:30 @ michaelloftis> also we definitely need more transcriptionists, if you'd like to folunteer message an op. 20:30 + Crispy`> theagent: The O Reilly where he talks to the guy trapped in his house? 20:31 + rcalise> New York Times is reporting that the "toxic soup" scenario is not likely to play out. Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/national/nationalspecial/01water.html , via Wikinews 20:31 + Sandoz> theagent: I think that's the show where he and shepard smith were arguing 20:31 Mode: #interdictor[+v CSMan] by mathy 20:31 @ mathy> CSMAN: url please on slashdot 20:31 + theagent> yeah.. this is a repeat 20:31 + CSMan> are your servers ready for 200k visitors/minute? 20:31 @ The_Tick> http://slashdot.org/articles/05/09/02/0120234.shtml?tid=215&tid=126&tid=95 20:32 + CSMan> mathy: first page 20:32 @ selcouth> CSMan: it's been there for about 45 minutes. 20:32 + CSMan> yeah 20:32 + CSMan> still on top. 20:32 + Crispy`> Did anyone else just see that $5.87 gasoline sign on Fox? 20:32 @ The_Tick> -chat is about to get a lot more hectic 20:32 mayo> anyone mirroring the new pics? 20:32 @ The_Tick> we might want to -z in here eventually 20:32 + CSMan> The_Tick: i got autobanned from -chat 20:32 + Bakudan> CSMann - they link to livejournal I believe - should have plenty of bandwidth 20:33 + theagent> wow, the scanner conversation is getting BLUNT! 20:33 + CSMan> hopefully cuz this is hot news worlwide 20:33 + CSMan> s/l/ld 20:33 @ The_Tick> CSMan: let me see if i can fix that 20:33 CelinaInCA* would volunteer but has no scanner 20:33 + rcalise> LiveJournal can definitely handle a slashdotting. 20:33 + PatrickLAW> THere are streams 20:33 + PatrickLAW> You need not a scanner 20:33 + CSMan> The_Tick: i think there's an extra * before the @ 20:33 @ mathy> can our wiki handle a slashdotting 20:33 + CelinaInCA> besides the hubby would have issues with me staying up all night, let alone my boss :-) 20:33 @ mathy> <@kow|EatingDinner> we've been on slashdot for about 40-50 minutes now I tihnk 20:33 + rcalise> mathy: i don't know. :( 20:34 + theagent> QUOTE from scanner2: " (unt) about a hurricane like this for years. Whoever was drawing up the plans made a huge F-up" 20:34 + rcalise> mathy: yeah, about 45 mins. 20:34 + Bakudan> what does (unt) mean? 20:34 @ jon787> Bakudan: unintelligable 20:34 + theagent> unintelligible 20:34 + rcalise> Bakudan, unintelligible 20:34 + StuntMonkey> Do we have a 2nd mirror?! 20:34 + Bakudan> Ahhh thansk 20:34 + StuntMonkey> for the 2nd part of the pics 20:34 + CSMan> ironically, you guys might get "flooded" 20:35 + Bakudan> Whoa and what is +z? 20:35 + Crispy`> http://us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050901/capt.gagb10409010035.katrina_oil_gagb104.jpg <--- Picture of that gas sign, I know t's a bit off topic, but just for the economic aftermath. 20:35 @kow|EatingDinne> (unt) is short-hand for unintelligible 20:35 @ selcouth> Bakudan: 20:35 @ djbsquared> hydroksyde: it doesnt matter, whoever has a bigger gun is in control 20:35 @ selcouth> Bakudan: +z allows +ov to see -ov chatter. 20:35 Mode: #interdictor[+v WhoDatSaints] by mathy 20:35 + rcalise> just +o, selcouth 20:35 Mode: #interdictor[+o Dark-Fx] by jon787 20:35 @ mathy> WhoDatSaints: dude can you link us to your buddy's info please 20:35 + Bakudan> Thanks i'm a newb, i'll stop now 20:35 @ mathy> if he's in the NOLA airport 20:35 Mode: #interdictor[+o Dark-Fx] by agentace 20:35 + theagent> wow, MSNBC now showing dead 20:36 + CelinaInCA> guys, I gotta tell you... gas has gone up $0.10 in the past DAY 20:36 @ Dark-Fx> well that was fun. 20:36 + Guy-Smiley> WWL-TV is off for the night, I might listen to WWL-AM for a little before bed 20:36 + WhoDatSaints> I wish I could...but it's part of the Fraternity website...sorry 20:36 + CelinaInCA> and it totally pisses me off 20:36 + PatrickLAW> Pictures or numbers? 20:36 + rcalise> CelinaInCA, it's a lot worse in other areas. 20:36 + theagent> pictures 20:36 @kow|EatingDinne> hey guys, try to keep the noise here down if it's not about possible news info? plz use interdictor-chat (or start your own channel if you would like, just /join and it will be created for you) 20:36 @ agentace> CelinaInCA: gas has gone up everywhere, most of the times worse 20:36 + CelinaInCA> oh believe me, I know 20:36 @ mathy> KrytenAG: 'these channels are NOT full' comment on slashdot whats up with that - whats that mean 20:36 + PatrickLAW> Celina, that's really not what this channel is about. 20:36 + PatrickLAW> This is for news, not complaining about gas 20:36 + CelinaInCA> and that pisses me off too, because it has nothing to do with actual increase in prices 20:36 @ agentace> but we're not here to gripe about fuel prices ;) 20:36 + Bakudan> Superdome refugees are now arriving at the Astrodome - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090102151.html 20:36 @ agentace> we're here to share information 20:36 + CelinaInCA> true dat :-) 20:37 @ agentace> BadWater: we're sharing information about the situation in New Orleans 20:37 + WhoDatSaints> If he posts anything tomorrow I will relay it 20:37 + CelinaInCA> so I'm waiting for word from my Reserve Center 20:37 @ Donny> Not in memphis, but in a building in New Orleans. :) 20:37 + CelinaInCA> I called them today and I guess there is some sort of request for personenel 20:37 + CSMan> The_Tick: anyone allowed in -chat? 20:37 @ The_Tick> CSMan: ya 20:37 + StuntMonkey> CSMan yes 20:37 @ Donny> Yes. I am with interdictor. 20:38 + CSMan> not me 20:38 @ The_Tick> for all of you new to the channel, only ops and voices can see your statements, and we shall not respond to you here, please go to #interdictor-chat 20:38 Mode: #interdictor[-z] by kow|EatingDinner 20:38 + CSMan> Cannot join to channel #interdictor-chat (You are banned) 20:38 @kow|EatingDinne> Sorry guys, one second. 20:38 Mode: #interdictor[-z] by djbsquared 20:38 + CelinaInCA> oh, so sorry! 20:38 @kow|EatingDinne> Please, keep the noise down. 20:38 @ The_Tick> CSMan: still looking :D 20:38 @ djbsquared> haha, dammit kow|EatingDinner 20:38 + Bakudan> Donny? 20:38 @ agentace> kow|: good call ;) 20:38 + Crispy`> +m is still on, guys. :) 20:38 + PatrickLAW> Tick, I'm pretty sure voices cannot see the statements of unvoiced. I can't, anyway 20:38 @ Donny> Yes. I am here. 20:38 @kow|EatingDinne> If you do not have information or news, please do not talk in here. 20:38 + rcalise> PatrickLAW, correct 20:38 @kow|EatingDinne> type /join #interdictor-chat if you would like to chat about the events. 20:38 @ djbsquared> nah, we are gonna leave it -z for now 20:38 + CSMan> The_Tick: maybe this one ? 23:27 -!- 0 - #interdictor-chat: ban %wtftruck!*@* [by lilo!i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin, 4907 20:38 + CSMan> secs ago 20:38 + Bakudan> A lot of the images put onto sigmund.biz are coming back as broken - just thought you guys should know 20:39 @ The_Tick> CSMan: ya, that's it 20:39 @ djbsquared> Bakudan: they are being hit hard 20:39 + StuntMonkey> i cant even get in Bakudan 20:39 + CSMan> =) 20:39 @ The_Tick> CSMan: try now 20:39 @ djbsquared> reload a few times and they come up 20:39 + Bakudan> Must be the crowd from slashdot 20:39 + John_K> Donny: our offer to help with photo galleries still stands if you guys need help 20:39 @ Donny> Yes. We are working on them. Running lower on bandwidth. Somebody is cleaning them up for us and making them smaller. 20:39 + CSMan> heh... 20:39 + CSMan> didn't work. 20:39 @ The_Tick> alright, only a few left 20:39 + CSMan> Bakudan: indeed 20:39 @ The_Tick> you aren't on tor are you? 20:39 + CSMan> nope 20:39 @ jon787> The_Tick: toronto is in his hostmask 20:39 @ Donny> John I know. We just had somebody grab all of them. 20:39 @ mathy> 20:39 @ mathy> Badwater and all PLEASE READ THE /TOPIC of the channel and read the WIKI at http://nola-intel.org before asking questions. THANKS! 20:40 @ jon787> so he got nailed by the ban 20:40 + CSMan> it disconnects too often 20:40 + John_K> ahh 20:40 + iarwain1> New Callsigns on Right chan: "Roughneck 4" and "Crescent 4" 20:40 + CSMan> jon787: ah, you got it 20:40 + John_K> if you want to send me a tar of all of them at some point I'll post them up to share the load if you want 20:40 + CSMan> jon787: i forgot this conx goes thru TO 20:40 @ djbsquared> Donny: so what is your title/role with the company? 20:40 @ mathy> RHyS: you have what to share? 20:41 @ Donny> I am Senior Vice President. 20:41 + EV1-DanielC> http://mirror1.ev1helps.net/ 20:41 kow|EatingDinner changed the topic of #interdictor to: You are now on irc.freenode.net #interdictor || This channel is for news and information submission only. We have set up #interdictor-chat as a place to chat. || #interdictor-digest: summaries & questions || #interdictor-scanner: scanner transcription || #interdictor-tech: tech questions || Media members, please send a message to a Channel Operator 20:41 @kow|EatingDinne> damn, that's a lot of info on the topic :) 20:41 @ djbsquared> Donny: i see, so are all of the high ranking members riding this one out? 20:41 + Bakudan> Donny is that generator just for you guys or for the entire building? 20:41 kow|EatingDinner changed the topic of #interdictor to: You are now on irc.freenode.net #interdictor || This channel is for news and information submission only. We have set up #interdictor-chat as a place to chat. || #interdictor-digest: summaries & questions || #interdictor-scanner: scanner transcription || #interdictor-tech: tech questions || #interdictor-relief: relief information || Media members, please send a message to a Channel Operator 20:41 @ Donny> Yes. We are high ranking members in the company. 20:42 + ssavoie> generator is for the datacenter 20:42 @ Donny> That is our data center generator. 20:42 + theagent> scanner just caught some perps 20:42 + Knobee> I wonder if he meant DMORT 20:42 @ Donny> theagent: what's the url? 20:42 + CSMan> how are you guys keeping the site safe from vandoleers? 20:42 @ mathy> < RHyS> Http://wififoremergency.org < wireless communication nodes 20:42 @ jon787> CSMan: they won't answer that 20:42 + joeldg> http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-09-01-foreignaidkatrina_x.htm world reaction 20:43 @ Donny> We have completely locked down the build, when the building engineers left 2 days ago. 20:43 + theagent> Donny, you can read scanner transcripts here on #interdictor-scanner2 20:43 @ The_Tick> CSMan: still can't get in? 20:43 + CSMan> jon787: well, ppl is gone wild west there 20:43 @ Donny> All doors in and out are locked tight. 20:43 @ michaelloftis> CSMan: they're running patrols, interdictor has military experience, i think they're also giving quater to an NOPD officer and locked everything down. 20:43 @ mathy> +m is still on for a reason. 20:43 @ Soms> chunmaster register your nick 20:43 @ mathy> its getting thick in here. 20:43 @ michaelloftis> oh heh...sorry, i'll let Danny answer :) 20:43 @ mathy> Bakudan: we have other image mirrors. hit those 20:43 Mode: #interdictor[+c] by kow|EatingDinner 20:43 @kow|EatingDinne> er wth 20:43 + Bakudan> I'm good, but I'll remember thant 20:43 Mode: #interdictor[-c] by kow|EatingDinner 20:43 Mode: #interdictor[+c] by ChanServ 20:43 Mode: #interdictor[+v chunmaster] by kow|EatingDinner 20:43 + chunmaster> i am 20:44 + chunmaster> weird 20:44 + CSMan> The_Tick: nah, doesn't work for me 20:44 + WhoDatSaints> Donny, are you familiar with the corner of Girod and S. Peters St.? 20:44 kow|EatingDinne: is now known as kow|AWAY|BackSoo 20:44 + iarwain1> (Rt. Can) about 70 ppl gettiong transported to shelter. 20:45 + iarwain1> can => chan 20:45 @ mathy> Donny: can you read my PM to you plz 20:45 @ lilo> okay, this is odd 20:45 @ Donny> WhoDatSaints, sorry, no. Send me the link via google maps and I'll check. 20:46 @ mathy> Donny: respond to mathx /msgs 20:46 + CSMan> the slashdot effect. 20:46 + JamesG> We've only gone up 100 users or so since the /. post 20:46 @ lilo> not sure about all of the quits, it's a bit unusual 20:46 + John_K> it hasn't hit rss yet 20:46 @ djbsquared> John_K: yea it has 20:47 @ djbsquared> popped up in my last refresh 20:47 + John_K> ahh 20:47 + CSMan> lilo: aren't the quits product of a ban ? 20:47 @ Donny> mathy: Sorry, i'm still irc clueless 20:47 @ mathy> thats ok. :) 20:47 + Guy-Smiley> bedtime for me, good luck guys 20:47 @ agentace> Guy-Smiley: night 20:47 @ mathy> send me a msg by clicking on the link and ill respond to you 20:47 + Guy-Smiley> i'll keep up with WWL when I come on tomarrow afternoon 20:48 @ Donny> Does anyboy in Kissemme or Orlando know where we can get gas??? 20:48 + CSMan> The_Tick: i got in. thx. 20:48 @ selcouth> CSMan: 2248.05 -!- csman #interdictor-chat is already on channel 20:48 @ selcouth> Yea 20:48 @ selcouth> Was going to say 20:48 @ Donny> mathy: I did. 20:48 + Bakudan> Gas abounds in Jacksonville 20:48 @ agentace> Donny: I'm not in Orlando, but I can call a friend and ask 20:48 + Bakudan> Roughly 3 hours north of Orlando 20:49 @ mathy> Donny: mathy or mathx :) sorry i got two nicks/windows going here to keep track 20:49 + ssavoie> Girod & S. Peters is where Earnst Cafe is i believe 20:49 @ Donny> Please. We have people in that area, looking for gas. :) If it's not too hard. 20:49 @ agentace> Donny: will be just a minute 20:49 + ssavoie> nm, that's lafayette & st peters 20:49 @ Donny> Oh Ernst cafe area is dry according to our cop friend. 20:50 @ michaelloftis> Donny: gas or diesel? 20:50 + CSMan> The_Tick: this entry is not there anymore tho, %Frungy!*@* 20:50 + WhoDatSaints> Yes, near Ernst 20:50 @ The_Tick> CSMan: nope 20:50 @ The_Tick> CSMan: i removed it a bit back 20:50 @ Donny> said it was fine as of last night. 20:50 + CSMan> after that i could get in. 20:50 @ lilo> note, folks.... if you need to be able to receive private messages from unregistered users, as a registered user you just use: "/msg nickserv set unfiltered on" (there's a risk of getting private message spam but you can turn it off as well) 20:51 + CSMan> btw, i have no voice in -chat 20:51 @ Donny> Nevermind, we found some diesel in Orlando. Thanks everyone. 20:51 @ lilo> great 20:51 + Bakudan> US accepts any and all foreign aid - http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168203,00.html 20:51 + WhoDatSaints> That's good to hear. My folks place is on that corner. 20:51 + BeanFriedPork> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/1/232621/9271 20:51 @ jon787> CSMan: yeah different people are running different channels 20:51 @ jon787> I don't have ops in it 20:51 + CSMan> jon787: k, np. 20:51 + BeanFriedPork> Blog from a National Guardsmen in Oklahoma 20:52 @ Donny> mathy: read the top of the blog based on your question. They have some stuff on it now. But at this point, you can do it however you want. We have to trust people at this point. 20:52 + BeanFriedPork> "Those who traveled more than 50 miles to drill are required to stay in town tonight. We're getting you hotel rooms. It's just as well, with gas costing three bucks a gallon." 20:52 + BeanFriedPork> "If you think we're fucked up, you should see the off-the-wall crap coming down from FEMA that we AREN'T passing on. Good God." 20:52 + BeanFriedPork> "Why didn't they call us earlier so we could've cocked the pistol on this? Then we'd be moving by now." 20:52 + BeanFriedPork> "We don't know where we're going, what we'll be doing, how long we'll be there, or what kind of logistical support we'll have." 20:52 + BeanFriedPork> "Doesn't anyone have any clue what's going on? What the fuck?" 20:53 + BeanFriedPork> Again: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/1/232621/9271 20:53 + Bakudan> Might want to mind the language there 20:53 + CSMan> first a whois to check the source. 20:54 @ Donny> We are talking live to somebody at the morial convention center. It's insane!!!!!!!! Mike will post in a while about it. 20:54 @ mathy> !! 20:54 + CSMan> that one is from .CA 20:54 @ mathy> Donny: err... which question, sorry cant remember... i just wanted to make sure that media requests we get for you guys go thru the proper chans 20:54 + CSMan> i mean ,california 20:54 @ djbsquared> damn postgres... back in a minute all 20:54 @ mathy> 23:50 <@smartboy> ted koppel asking FEMA guy "You just learned about the convention center today? 20:54 + WhoDatSaints> I heard bad things on the News about the convention center 20:54 @ mathy> We've been reporting about it since yesterday." 20:54 @ mathy> 23:53 <@smartboy> abc. 20:54 @ jon787> WhoDatSaints: bad doesn't describe it 20:54 @ mathy> FEMA needs to get on IRC 20:54 @ jon787> murder and rape describes the convention center 20:55 @ Donny> mathy: This is all I know: Media Post 20:55 @ Donny> This blog was never intended to be some kind of springboard to fame. I had no idea it would be... well, be what it is now. It's nothing short of stunning. I am getting thousands of IMs per hour now. I cannot keep up with them all. Same thing with comments -- I try to scan them all, but I am struggling to stay on top of it. All of them are appreciated and all of them are morale boosters and all of them provide focus for us. 20:55 @ Donny> I understand that a lot of media want to discuss our situation and the situation in the city. If you are in the media and you want to contact me or any in Team SOTI here at Outpost Crystal, please get with Ezra Hodge -- he can be reached at ICQ: 91-664-906, or ehodge@intercosmos.com 20:55 @ Donny> He will be coordinating all that stuff. I'm trying to make myself available, but we have so much physical stuff to do in addition to holding down the internet and pulling security. This will expedite things I think. 20:55 @ Donny> We have a live report right now about it. They need the damn military there. 20:56 Mode: #interdictor[+o mathx_] by doofoo- 20:56 + CSMan> what they need is someone who speaks loud and tell them what to do 20:56 + CelinaInCA> Donny, did you see my post on the blog about USNORTHCOM sending amphib ships to the area? 20:56 @ Donny> The have over 10k people there including kids. 20:56 + CelinaInCA> they are expected to arrive Sept. 4 20:56 @ Donny> celinainca: yes. 20:56 + CelinaInCA> cool 20:56 @ jon787> what they need are apaches so that people stop taking shots at the rescue choppers 20:57 @ Donny> People are dieing at the convention center every hour the guy said. 20:57 @ selcouth> Donny: how is the webcam holding up? 20:57 + CSMan> anybody get an op to let me talk in -chat. thx 20:57 @ jon787> CSMan: chat isn't moderated 20:57 + CSMan> i think webcam is smoot 20:57 + CSMan> smooth 20:58 @ Donny> selcouth: It's still working. I guess. 20:58 + WhoDatSaints> Webcam still goin' 20:58 @ jon787> where did the +z mode go in here? 20:58 @ selcouth> Ok, I heard some say it was down 20:58 @ lilo> (if you're having problems with connectivity through the athena.crschmidt.net web chat, please message crschmidt.... thanks) 20:58 + JamesG> Donny: Did they get thos OC3s back up? Or are you still on just the one upstream? 20:58 @ selcouth> jon787: it got too crazy 20:58 @ Donny> It's really nice considering we grabbed it from one of our employees car who rode out the storm the first night. 20:58 + CSMan> holly cow 20:58 @ lilo> that would be an intended reset, CSMan 20:58 @ Donny> Still just one upstream. 20:58 @ lilo> he's trying to fix possible bugs 20:58 + John_K> it's the web based java client dieing 20:59 + Crispy`> Donny: My friend has been out in the whole LA/MI area setting up WLANs so maybe that will help. 20:59 + Crispy`> He's been with Emergency Crews going from heliport to heliport setting up WLANs so that the city leaders can at least communicate easier. 20:59 Mode: #interdictor[+o ZOP] by michaelloftis 20:59 + CSMan> lilo: you guys became the engineers of a living system that is called freenode. 21:00 @ lilo> CSMan: yes 21:00 @ lilo> CSMan: there's a big human component 21:00 @ lilo> CSMan: I would even say it's the biggest component of the system 21:00 @ mathy> 21:00 @ mathy> WE WILL KEEP -z HERE TIL DONNY'S GOTTA GO TO KEEP THINGS FOCUSSED, THEN WE'LL +Z AND GET MORE CONTRIBS FROM EVERYONE. THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING. 21:01 @ Donny> Heard snipers are on the gno bridge to not let people get over it. Damn. 21:01 @ Donny> Mike will be working for a while on this one. This one needs to be sent up stream to somebody so whenever it happens the shit is going to hit the fan! 21:01 + rcalise> Donny: civilians or Police/Military? 21:01 + Bakudan> looks like they're turning people away from the astrodome and sending them to ft worth - looking for confirmation 21:02 + CSMan> lilo: the scenario is rich for the research of living systems. just imagine one day all that work controlled by a machine. anyway, back to /topic =) 21:02 Mode: #interdictor[+v calib0rx] by mathy 21:02 @ Donny> Military. 21:02 + PatrickLAW> Are they SHOOTING people, or just using it as a deterrent? 21:03 @ mathy> calib0rx: say hi to Donny 21:03 + calib0rx> donny, hola 21:03 Mode: #interdictor[+v crschmidt] by jon787, selcouth 21:03 @ Donny> Just a deterrent from what I see. 21:03 @ selcouth> Crispy`: go 21:03 + calib0rx> let any IC'ers know to contact me if they need anything 21:03 + crschmidt> Thanks 21:03 + ssavoie> is there a map up somewhere that you can see the condition of a house? trying to get some info on my place on Esplanade Ave (between broad and I-10) 21:03 + crschmidt> CGIIRC is going down for a bit 21:03 @ mathy> 00:00 <@Syncros> wow, this cnn video on their website is pretty intense 21:03 @ mathy> 00:01 <@Syncros> people asking if they are being left to die 21:03 Mode: #interdictor[+o djbsquared] by selcouth 21:03 + JamesG> Donny: Is that you in the red shirt? Who is in the stripy shirt? 21:03 + crschmidt> there's bugs in the code that are causing all these crashes 21:03 + Crispy`> selcouth: Perhaps you meant crschmidt. :) 21:03 + ssavoie> this is shane 21:03 @ selcouth> I did 21:03 + crschmidt> i'm going to kill all the connections now, and the client is moved 21:04 + calib0rx> shane, how goes. you guys ok? 21:04 + crschmidt> i'm going to try and fix it asap and get it back up 21:04 + crschmidt> sorry about all that, and hopefully i'll have it up in no time 21:04 + BeanFriedPork> http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Anderson-Cooper-Landrieu-Katrina.wmv 21:04 + ssavoie> yeah, we're doing good 21:04 + BeanFriedPork> Anderson Cooper RIPPING into Senator Mary Landrieux 21:04 + CompWizrd> ssavoie: http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM, perhaps 21:04 @ michaelloftis> again anyone willing to help with the transcription efforts in #intedictor-scanner or #interdictor-scanner contact an op!!! 21:04 + crschmidt> this will be the last big disconnect 21:04 + BeanFriedPork> Again: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Anderson-Cooper-Landrieu-Katrina.wmv 21:04 + calib0rx> ssavoie: i've spoken with stuart, i haven't heard from J.Bailey, have you? 21:04 + calib0rx> trying to make sure he got out ok 21:04 + calib0rx> no one i've talked to has heard from him 21:05 + ssavoie> no word 21:05 + calib0rx> ok 21:05 + crschmidt> no more web irc until i fix it. again, my apologies 21:05 + joeldg> Yea, Stuart is doing well 21:05 + calib0rx> hey joel 21:05 + joeldg> called me also.. 21:05 + joeldg> hi 21:05 + BeanFriedPork> So um, the chat is about to close for a bit? 21:05 @ Donny> mike is in the red shirt, he is the guy writing everything. I'm the guy behind him in the stripped shirt. 21:05 + calib0rx> is mike lockhart btw if anyone was wondering 21:05 + WhoDatSaints> ssavoie: try http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/new-orleans-imagery.htm 21:05 + JamesG> Donny: Right, good to know :) 21:05 + joeldg> looking pretty scruffy there guys :) 21:05 Mode: #interdictor[+o mathx] by doofoo- 21:06 Mode: #interdictor[+o mathx] by mathy 21:06 + Botunda> CNN, Houston Atrodome not accepting anmore evacueess 21:06 + Crispy`> Ouch. :\ 21:06 @ Donny> Yeah, not feeling very chipper on our end. But we are still here. 21:06 @ The_Tick> probably full 21:06 @ djbsquared> next are going to dallas 21:06 + CelinaInCA> wish I could DCC you all some support :-) 21:06 + Crispy`> BeanFriedPork: That link doesn't work. 21:07 @ djbsquared> and for some reason kwame seems to want more residents 21:07 + Bakudan> I heard ft worth 21:07 + Crispy`> At least not for me. 21:07 @ Donny> Sorry guys, where were we. 21:07 + calib0rx> Donny: do you guys need anything that i could offer? 21:07 @ selcouth> Woohoo bring 'em on. (from Dallas here) 21:07 @ djbsquared> Bakudan: they are like the same city 21:07 @ selcouth> Uh no? 21:07 + Bakudan> Ahh 21:07 @ selcouth> Ft Worth != Dallas. Thank you very much ;) 21:08 @ djbsquared> ive never seen ft. worth in its own sentence 21:08 + Bakudan> I really need to get out and see more of the US 21:08 @ mathy> 00:08 <@Syncros> koppel against fema head guy 21:08 @ djbsquared> its always Dallas/Ft. Worth 21:08 @ djbsquared> like Mpls./St. Paul 21:08 @ mathy> 00:06 CNN is reporting that buses are being turned away at the 21:08 @ mathy> Houston Astrodome. They're saying it's already at capacity. 21:08 + Bakudan> "Officials at the Astrodome in Houston, Texas, say the facility is full and cannot accept any more New Orleans hurricane refugees." 21:08 @ mathy> Let people know that Local6 in Orlando is reporting gas drying 21:08 @ mathy> up around the area of central FL., I'm in Jax, messaged Donny 21:08 @ mathy> since he said he had people in the area and I couldn't post 21:08 @ mathy> right now to chan 21:08 @ mathy> (from ) 21:09 + Bakudan> from the CNN front page - no more info yet 21:09 @ mathy> turned away to where? obviously they'll stay nearby 21:09 + joeldg> we have word from florida that all gas stations are closed 21:09 Mode: #interdictor[+o bleachboy] by Donny 21:09 @ bleachboy> Thanks, Donny ;) 21:09 + Crispy`> All gas stations are closed where? NO? 21:09 @ mathy> joeldg: source on that 21:09 + Bakudan> joeldg: i havn'e heard anything about that, Jacksonville, FL here 21:10 + Crispy`> I live in Miami, heard nothing of it. 21:10 @ mathy> sounds debunked. 21:10 @ mathy> for now :) 21:10 + joeldg> our guys setting up offsite 21:10 + joeldg> perhaps just that one area 21:10 @ michaelloftis> sorry folks who've been pm=ing me, xchat's pm stuff pretty much blew up on me earlier so they sometimes get aten right now :) 21:10 + rcalise> probably not all gas in the entire state; just the immediate area where DirectNIC employees are 21:10 kow|AWAY|BackSo: is now known as kow^ 21:11 + Bakudan> From what I hear orlando is pretty sold out 21:11 + ssavoie> we can get gas here south of new orleans. you just have to wait in line awhile. 21:11 @ The_Tick> michaelloftis: give irssi a shot, it handles windows better 21:11 + Crispy`> Yeah it is, and I think Miami is getting worked dry. 21:11 + calib0rx> ssavoie: where are you located at this current moment? 21:11 + joeldg> bakudan they are near orlando 21:11 + ssavoie> Cut Off, LA 21:11 Mode: #interdictor[+o ssavoie] by bleachboy 21:12 Mode: #interdictor[+o joeldg] by bleachboy 21:12 @ The_Tick> eyewitness news houston: confirmation they are not accepting anymore people due to fire concerns 21:12 + John_K> Donny: is the media free to use your second round of pictures under the same conditions as the first? 21:12 @ kow^> fitting, ssavoie :p 21:12 + WhoDatSaints> My buddy in Shreveport said everyone stormed the gas stations...kind of dumb...if there was not a shortage before...storming the gas stations can cause one 21:12 + CelinaInCA> South Florida news sites reporting no gas shortages 21:12 @ Donny> John_k: Yes. 21:12 + calib0rx> ssavoie: damn 21:12 + Red_Eye> sounds like the hysteria that hit us here in Georgia last night finally reached florida, Gas is coming from the gulf folks its a 3 day weekend so people are all filling up and they hysteria doesnt help 21:12 + Crispy`> CelinaInCA: Damn. Gas stations around me are dry. :\ I'd haver to drive about 5 miles to find one. 21:13 + CSMan> christ i can't keep the reading in -chat 21:13 + Bakudan> its a shame you can't email gas 21:13 @ michaelloftis> The_Tick: i'm on OS X....and the X11 support on OSX kinda sucks, but i was pretty sure irssi is still text only. 21:13 + CSMan> michaelloftis: it is. and it's a good one. 21:13 + calib0rx> michaelloftis: correct 21:13 + WhoDatSaints> ssavoie: know any Duet's? 21:13 @ The_Tick> michaelloftis: it is text only 21:14 + rcalise> michaelloftis, it is, but it handles multiple windows on console, and quite well 21:14 @ The_Tick> michaelloftis: and i'm in os x, try the beef 21:14 Mode: #interdictor[+o pcounts] by Textral 21:14 @ ssavoie> yes. lots of duets here, related to many 21:14 @ pcounts> We found gas in Kissimmee 21:14 @ joeldg> oh you found some paul 21:14 Mode: #interdictor[+o Teriander] by Amish_Hooker 21:14 @ mathy> 21:14 @ mathy> guys, gas shortages arent topical here unless there's actual urls/intel for us. try to keep focussed on the situ in NOLA and area please. 21:14 @ pcounts> we have the other five machines now 21:15 + Bakudan> http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/2005/09/01/gas_stations-run_dry20050901.html 21:15 Bakudan* grins 21:15 @ joeldg> see other chan paul.. need to chat you about the new mail server 21:16 @ michaelloftis> The_Tick: the beef eh? ok i'll find it...and yeah i actually use irssi mostly except when i need to have a LOT of windows.....easier in a GUI imho (ZOP == me as well heh, irssi client) 21:16 + WhoDatSaints> ssavoie: My buddy at the airport is a Duet. 21:16 + Bakudan> Florida gas update - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-canegas0105sep01,0,2847892.story?coll=orl-business-headlines 21:16 @ The_Tick> michaelloftis: fink install irssi or port install irssi+perl 21:16 @ The_Tick> about it :) 21:16 Mode: #interdictor[+v Knobee] by doofoo- 21:16 + Bakudan> There isn't a shortage per se, its just being sold faster than being delivered 21:16 @ mathy> ok guys, stay on topic. 21:17 + BeanFriedPork> The mortician friend I mentioned earlier, in Gulfport, Texas (about an hour from Houston I think), he told me he was at a Popeye's there and they were comping all the refugees with free food. 21:17 @ mathy> we're going to +z again cuz info is going to #-chat and we need it in here. 21:17 @ mathy> BeanFriedPork: they have power? 21:17 + BeanFriedPork> In Gulfport Texas. 21:17 @ mathy> oh duh. 21:17 @ mathy> isnt that gulfport MI that was hit direct 21:17 Mode: #interdictor[+z] by michaelloftis 21:17 + CSMan> is there a strategy if there's absolutely no power? 21:17 + Crispy`> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090102151.html <--- Info on the people that are in the astrodome. 21:18 + BeanFriedPork> I might've been confusing the name of the town he was in with that Gulfport. But I do know he lives like an hour south of Houston. 21:18 @ Soms> anyone looking to goto NO, and help out with security, food distrobution join #norescue, this is not part of the interdictor project 21:18 @ michaelloftis> ok people we NEED relief over in scanner2 21:19 @ michaelloftis> mesg an op, step up please!!!! 21:19 + BeanFriedPork> shit, I meant _Freeport_, Texas 21:19 @ pcounts> Volunteers please take over RIGHT channel in scanner2 21:19 Mode: #interdictor[+o Teriander] by mathy 21:19 @ pcounts> the transcribers are getting tired 21:20 + rcalise> Donny: how long do you think your food supply will last? 21:20 + Crispy`> Was it already reported that congress OKed the 10 billion dollar relief? 21:20 + rcalise> Crispy`, yes, a few times. 21:20 + Crispy`> Ok. 21:20 + rcalise> Oh wait. 21:20 Mode: #interdictor[-m] by kow^ 21:20 sedwards> rcalise, can you get me voice in here? 21:20 + rcalise> Misread. Congress has okayed it? 21:21 sedwards> oh nevermind 21:21 cyphase> are all the admins people in new orleans? 21:21 sedwards> I can chat now 21:21 drake2> Senate only so far 21:21 @ kow^> okay, guys, we're dropping the +m for now 21:21 + rcalise> sedwards, you've got it, buddy ;) 21:21 Mode: #interdictor[+m] by selcouth 21:21 @ kow^> BUT PLEASE 21:21 @ Donny> We have about 2 weeks of food. but I just noticed the diet coke supply was running low. Can somebody call Coke and have them deliver us a few cases please. That's about all we drink here. 21:21 + Bakudan> Oh man its gonna go nuts 21:21 @ bleachboy> -m is gonna be berzerko ;) 21:21 @ ssavoie> no admins are in NOLA, actually. 21:21 @ selcouth> Not a good idea 21:21 + chunmaster> donny is 21:21 @ kow^> This channel is NOT for chatting. If you would like to chat, use #interdictor-chat 21:21 + calib0rx> Donny: actually yes :) 21:21 @ bleachboy> Donny: If Sig runs out of Diet Coke, lock yourself in the bathroom permanently! It's your only hope for survival. 21:22 @ kow^> If you have information or news regarding events in New Orleans, or if you can provide URLs to independent news sources, online news sources, or any international or otherwise non-mainstream US news, please notify us. 21:22 @ The_Tick> i'll quiet those who go off topic and do not follow warning 21:22 + crschmidt> going to try to bring cgiirc back up now 21:22 Mode: #interdictor[-z] by The_Tick 21:22 + crschmidt> cross your fingers 21:22 @ Soms> LAST CALL - anyone looking to goto NO, and help out with security, food distrobution join #norescue, this is not part of the interdictor project 21:22 @ Donny> I'm already getting desperate. I have already limited him, he's drinking a nestea cool now. 21:22 Bakudan* holds breath 21:22 @ The_Tick> ok, i'm gonna do it 21:22 Mode: #interdictor[-m] by The_Tick 21:22 spstarr> CNN reporting breaking news: Officials at the Astrodome in Houston, Texas, say the facility is full and cannot accept any more New Orleans hurricane refugees. 21:22 @ Soms> ooh donny 21:22 Karnak> i don't think it is wise to go -m with so many in here trying to get their 2 cents. 21:22 @ selcouth> The_Tick: ... 21:22 ircleuser> i can type 80 wpm, how can i listen to the right channel? i'm on mac osx 21:23 Mode: #interdictor[+mz] by selcouth, michaelloftis 21:23 @ The_Tick> selcouth: kow^ was saying he was going to do it 21:23 The_Tick* sighs 21:23 djbsquared* slaps The_Tick with small marine animal 21:23 + chunmaster> turn yer fader allthe way to the right 21:23 @ mathy> 00:23 < BeanFriedPork> Shit, I heard even Bill O'Reilly's been criticizing the Government's response. 21:23 + Bakudan> well that didn't last long 21:23 @ kow^> no, no, I was removing the +z, not the +m 21:23 @ The_Tick> kow^: ahh, k 21:23 + crschmidt> testing, testing 21:23 @ The_Tick> apologies :) 21:23 @ jon787> kow^: I like +z, it allows them to ask questions 21:24 @ kow^> I do too. 21:24 @ kow^> Let me straighten this out, patience please. 21:24 @ Donny> Yes. I live in Metairie, Sig lives in the carrolton area in NO. 21:24 @ mathy> spstarr: that was oldnuze man. keep it new. 21:24 Mode: #interdictor[-m] by kow^ 21:24 @ kow^> Okay, all should be settled for now. 21:25 l1quid> how did your houses hold up? is everything good? 21:25 Mode: #interdictor[+m] by selcouth 21:25 @ djbsquared> look guyes 21:25 @ djbsquared> there aer 900 people in here 21:25 @ djbsquared> we just cant -m 21:25 @ ssavoie> Some of our homes are fine, some of us have no idea. 21:25 + Bakudan> Oh yay - Florda fuel reserves now in doubt - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/weather/orl-bk-floridagaskatrina090105,0,4358951.story?coll=orl-home-headlines 21:26 + CelinaInCA> new news from USNORTHCOM: http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.showstory&storyid=1459B9AD-F37E-B2BF-0439A96A38F26ABD 21:26 + CelinaInCA> Harry S. Truman on her way 21:26 @ Donny> My next door neighbor who works for bellsouth, called my wife and said my house was fine, only some wind damage. We have not seen Sig's house. Mike's house we are not sure about. 21:26 crschmidt* is watching error logs on cgiirc and trying to fix bugs as they come up 21:26 + crschmidt> they don't seem to happen under load 21:26 + Knobee> need a note on the Main_Page regarding peercasts -- if a link to http://yp.peercast.org/?find=orleans&Submit=Search could be added -- the URLS change if I modify the source any. 21:26 @ Donny> fragile, please. 21:27 @ kow^> okay, channel should be fine, if you are getting messages that you cannot talk in this channel please message an op. 21:27 + WhoDatSaints> My brother got out of Baton Rouge after a couple of mini riots downtown... 21:28 @ Donny> We have a NOPD here and his radio doesn't even work. 21:28 @ kow^> Once again, folks, this channel is for news/information submission only. If you would like to chat, please join #interdictor-chat. If you would like to volunteer to do transcription for the scanner feeds, please message an op. 21:28 + Knobee> Donny -- are they using 800Mhz? 21:28 + Knobee> (on the street)? 21:28 @ jon787> Philomot: water won't go down until the levees are patched 21:28 @ agentace> Donny: The Gate in DeLand has gas, if this would help, /msg me and I'll give directions 21:28 @ jon787> Philomot: it is 80% flooded 21:29 @ Donny> Everybody the news I was talking about is on the blog. Please check it out and be shocked. 21:29 + crschmidt> still working on the web interface 21:30 @ Donny> The cop is doing ok now. He was in bad shape yesterday. 21:30 @ Donny> UNO seemed dry to us. 21:30 Mode: #interdictor[+o Eter] by bleachboy 21:31 + Bakudan> The news seems to have dried up somewhat 21:32 crschmidt* cureses cgiirc 21:33 @ michaelloftis> http://www.mgno.com/ is the blog 21:33 @ ssavoie> yes, same convention center 21:33 @ Donny> Yes. This is the same convention center that fema didn't know about it. 21:33 @ kow^> eric: #interdictor-chat, please 21:34 @ selcouth> Donny: who is bleachboy? 21:34 @ Donny> One of my guys in another state 21:34 + enwilson> MSNBC flashed an AP headline about the Astrodome being full and that alternate accomodations for the rest were lined up 21:34 @ selcouth> Donny: ok. He opped a lot so we were confused 21:35 @ michaelloftis> we just saw him +o several people so we were a little concerned :) 21:35 @ Donny> What response? They are clowns at this point. 21:35 @ bleachboy> I'm going to pwn this channel! mwahaha. 21:35 @ Donny> Sorry. 21:35 @ agentace> Donny: did you find anywhere to get fuel in Orlando yet? 21:36 @ Donny> agentace: Yes we did. Thank you. 21:36 + theagent> the scanner was reporting destination changes awhile ago.... Fort Worth 21:36 @ joeldg> reporters are starting to really ask the "what is going on with this response" we had aid to the typhoon victims faster 21:36 @ agentace> Donny: ok, just wanted to make sure, I found a few sources 21:36 + Bakudan> Saints likely to be based in Texas - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090102435.html 21:36 @ Donny> Send them to pcount@intercosmos.com for me. 21:36 @ agentace> Donny: will do 21:36 @ Donny> We don't see any rioting in our area that we are in. 21:37 @ joeldg> make that pcounts@ 21:37 @ Donny> That's pcounts@intercosmos.com Sorry. 21:38 @ mathy> Donny: need you in the intel chan for a sec 21:39 @ Donny> Yeah, ya'll should have heard Bigfoot on the phone. It was insane! 21:40 @ jon787> if anyone using irssi wants to mask all the part/join/quit messages here they can use this script http://tesla.homelinux.net/~jon787/mask.txt 21:40 @ kow^> Donny: Did Bigfoot have any word on the rumors of violence? 21:41 @ selcouth> jon787: or /ignore -channels #chan * PARTS JOINS QUITS 21:41 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*=SpartanK@*.wp.shawcable.net] by mathy 21:41 SpartanKing was kicked from #interdictor by mathy (mathy) 21:41 @ jon787> secureideas: damn :( I should read the docs 21:41 + Bakudan> Guys i'm headed home - back shortly 21:41 @ jon787> errr selcouth 21:41 @ jon787> thanks 21:41 + CSMan> jon787: just mask it by /ignore quits #interdictor /ignore leaves #intedictor =) 21:41 @ kow^> BlackLotus: please read the channel topic for information :) 21:42 + Crispy`> If you are using IRC, right click on the channel in the channel bar and click "events" you can disable everything from there. 21:42 @ mathy> 00:39 < WndrBread> so whats the diffrence between left- and right-channel on 21:42 @ mathy> the scanner? 21:42 @ mathy> WndrBread: two scanners in different areas. 21:42 kow^ changed the topic of #interdictor to: You are now on irc.freenode.net #interdictor || http://www.nola-intel.org || This channel is for news and information submission only. We have set up #interdictor-chat as a place for chat. || #interdictor-digest: summaries & questions || #interdictor-scanner: scanner transcription || #interdictor-tech: tech questions || #interdictor-relief: relief information || Media members, please send a message to a Channel Opera 21:42 @ mathy> police/emergency radio is relayed. 21:42 @ mathy> a scanner may hear different parts of the same channel relaying from different points. 21:42 Mode: #interdictor[-b *!*=SpartanK@*.wp.shawcable.net] by selcouth 21:43 @ mathy> this is why occasionaly, someone broadcasting in the right spot can be on both scanners at the same time 21:43 + crschmidt> Okay, seems like I've fixed the bugs that were causing crashes in CGI::IRC 21:43 @ mathy> 00:43 < tamas> Texas taking in more evacuees, agreed to 73,000. Dallas and San 21:43 kow^ changed the topic of #interdictor to: You are now on irc.freenode.net #interdictor || http://www.nola-intel.org || This channel is for news and information submission only. We have set up #interdictor-chat as a place for chat. || #interdictor-digest || #interdictor-scanner || #interdictor-tech || #interdictor-relief || Media members, please send a message to a Channel Opera 21:43 @ mathy> Antonio setting up arenas. Source: 21:43 @ mathy> 00:43 < tamas> http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3797880 21:43 @ kow^> Opera? wth 21:43 Mode: #interdictor[+v tamas] by mathy 21:43 kow^ changed the topic of #interdictor to: You are now on irc.freenode.net #interdictor || http://www.nola-intel.org || This channel is for news and information submission only. We have set up #interdictor-chat as a place for chat. || #interdictor-digest || #interdictor-scanner || #interdictor-tech || #interdictor-relief || Media members, please send a message to a Channel Operator 21:43 @ kow^> sorry guys, that's done 21:43 Mode: #interdictor[-b *!*=a97867f3@*.ipt.aol.com] by kow^ 21:44 @ Donny> Guys we are still looking for a nopd scanner if you know of one. 21:45 @ Pavix> http://www.goodphuck.com:8088 another stream... 21:45 + Red_Eye> /ignore quits #interdictor 21:46 + chunmaster> donny 21:46 + chunmaster> http://205.252.89.181:8000/live.m3u 21:46 + chunmaster> NOLA police scanner 21:46 @ Pavix> k 21:46 + chunmaster> oh shoot - thats nat guard 21:46 + chunmaster> illl keep looking 21:47 @ joeldg> i cannot get the live feed to work.. the m3u is that a scanner feed? 21:47 + chunmaster> it's from http://www.saskatoonscanner.com/ 21:47 + chunmaster> nice clean feed 21:48 Mode: #interdictor[-o Pavix] by joeldg 21:49 Mode: #interdictor[+o Pavix] by ChanServ 21:51 @ Donny> Sorry guys, I still haven't found one that works. But thanks. 21:51 @ Donny> wait. I think it just started. 21:52 @ michaelloftis> spectros: thank you but we don't need that posted anymore, scanner traffic and urls are in the -scanner and -scanner2 channels 21:52 @ doofoo-> http://ods.org:8001/scan feed 1 http://ods.org:8003/fema feed 2 21:52 @ djbsquared> Donny: did the news stay on past 11? 21:53 @ Donny> djbsquared: It went down 20 minutes ago. 21:53 @ djbsquared> Donny: d'oh, so what does taht leave you with? 21:54 @ Donny> Right now we have 5 minute replays of the same stuff all night long. 21:54 @ djbsquared> Donny: sounds like you need my office space DVD :) 21:55 + crschmidt> CGI: IRC now 1. uses 3 digit codes, 2. has list of channels and allows access to all #interdictor channels 21:55 @ Donny> Oh that would be great. I movie would be too funny. 21:55 @ agentace> PajamaHadin: http://www.rc-katrina.com/ 21:56 Mode: #interdictor[+o Teriander] by michaelloftis 21:56 @ kow^> hey donny, i might be able to get you a copy of 28 days later :) 21:56 @ djbsquared> no bots 21:57 @ selcouth> Yes cause that's a great movie to watch at times like these :P 21:57 @ kow^> :p 21:57 @ djbsquared> rewatching office space and 28 days later over and over 21:57 @ djbsquared> checkercab: the room is moderated 21:57 + PatrickLAW> I think an apocolypse movie would be comforting compared to the human side of what's going on in NO 21:57 @ Donny> Oh yeah, great! 28 days later. :) 21:57 @ djbsquared> only operators can see what everyone types 21:58 + chunmaster> LoL - all the scanners ive found - the ISP is offline 21:58 + chunmaster> go figure 21:58 + tamas> Astrodome determined too full at 11,735 by officials. Others sent to other Houston shelters. Source: 21:58 + tamas> http://www.suntimes.com/output/hurricane/01houston.html 21:59 + tamas> Also notes that 23,000 expected to come, buses contine to arrive. 21:59 @ djbsquared> Mechcozmo: slashdot was hours ago 22:00 @ Donny> Do you have her number? 22:00 @ michaelloftis> had a question of confirmation for rumors of dysentary (spelling?) 22:01 @ djbsquared> Torg_: none of this is hitting their server 22:01 @ Donny> inte439: do you have her number? 22:02 @ michaelloftis> grunchley: i think they're fine WRT ftp but donny is watching in here so he can relay that to mike if it's still needed 22:02 @ kow^> Ladies and Gentlemen, please keep in mind that this channel is primarily for news/information exchange. If you would like to chat about events, please discuss it in #interdictor-chat. As you can see there are ~900 people in this chat, and it is crucial that we keep communications properly channeled. Thank you for your help. 22:03 @ Donny> grunchley: Post under the blog about pictures. I'm about to lose my mind right now. Sorry. 22:04 @ Donny> WndrBread: I have no heard anything. 22:04 + tamas> Regarding dysentery, the only report I have seen comes from a worker in an infirary near the Superdome 22:04 @ michaelloftis> FYI folks this channel is running 'half modded' which means +o/+v can see your text, not everyone else which is why we'll repeat you if the information is usable/needed....we have to do this in order to keep it sane in here. 22:04 @ ssavoie> we got one of the drives to the mac guys. may try to send more data out in a bit, if we can spare the bandwidth. 22:05 + tamas> Source: http://159.54.227.3/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050901/NEWS/509010339 22:05 + crschmidt> Shit. 22:06 + tamas> Not an actual confirmation, but a comment there on the inevitably of dysentery given unhygenic conditions and that it generally will occur in 4 days, which have passed. 22:06 @ Donny> grunchly: yes. About the ftp. 22:06 + crschmidt> Athena apache processes are totally bombed. Need to restart Apache. All cgi irc clients will restart temporarily 22:06 @ kow^> [22:04] Regarding dysentery, the only report I have seen comes from a worker in an infirary near the Superdome 22:06 @ kow^> [22:05] Source: http://159.54.227.3/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050901/NEWS/509010339 22:06 @ kow^> thank you tamas 22:06 @ Donny> matty: I want mike to talk to whoever about it, since he talked to bigfoot. And this is his real name. 22:06 @ kow^> (folks, that's thek ind of stuff we're looking for) 22:07 @ ssavoie> mechcozmo: i think it's a powermac (i'm working on it remotely) 22:07 @ djbsquared> zardinuk: you cant quite get into a bank safe with an ak-47 22:07 @ Donny> zardinuk: The federal reserve came in on Monday and pulled ALL money out of the city. 22:08 @ kow^> Ladies and gentlemen, if you have questions about the news or would like to chat, please take it to #interdictor-chat. We have almost 900 people in this channel, so you can probably understand why we want to keep our communications properly channeled. Thank you. 22:08 @ Donny> zardinuk: Yep. They were trying really hard. 22:08 @ bleachboy> kow: Do I know you from #c? 22:08 @ djbsquared> ssavoie: what exactly are you attempting to do on the mac? 22:09 @ djbsquared> cause a bunch of us in here are mac-heads 22:10 @ Donny> pyroman002: Not that I am aware of. Seemed dry based on the pics on the news. But I heard it was wet a few days ago. 22:10 @ djbsquared> toastie: big trucks. 22:11 @ ssavoie> Mac questions: it's a design firm that is asking us to back up their data. 3 or so drives on a mac desktop. I'm a unix guy, i'm ssh'd into the machine, gzipping the drives and ftping them to a server they have set up. just takes time to transfer. :) had to stop for awhile considering our network conditions. 22:11 @ djbsquared> yea 22:11 @ djbsquared> but thats the beauty, is you can work on it the same way you would on unix 22:12 + enwilson> Didn't see if this was in yet... 22:12 + enwilson> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475358/posts 22:12 @ Dark-Fx> I made a mirror of the last set of pictures made: http://fxserver.resnet.mtu.edu/direcnic/kat20050901%20part%202/ 22:12 + theagent> ssavoie, if they're all OSX just use something like Rsync 22:13 Mode: #interdictor[+o Pavix] by ChanServ 22:13 + theagent> you can also just image the drives as ISO 22:13 + tamas> 17th Street levee expected to be complete by now. However it sounds like they simply will attempt to close the canal to the lake, which may bring other problems from other articles seen when they try to drain the city out. 22:14 + theagent> I heard it will take a minimum of 2 days to close the breaches 22:14 + CSMan> all of them? 22:14 + tamas> Bush administration also starting spin campaign to deny the cuts they actually made - not sure what that is about. Source for both: http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784818569 22:14 + theagent> yep 22:15 @ michaelloftis> plese take tech questions and discussion to either -chat or -tech. 22:15 lilo* nods 22:15 @ michaelloftis> s/plese/please/ 22:15 + theagent> they're running parallel chopper crews dropping those massive 3000lb sand bags 22:15 @ michaelloftis> thanks :) 22:15 mayo> if you are using rsync to backup, make sure you include one switch (not sure what it is atm) that also takes care of resource forks .. but tar is the best way 22:15 @ lilo> i suspect there will be a lot of post-crisis analysis of political stuff, it'll probably work better with time perspective 22:16 @ djbsquared> lilo: hows the network lookin? 22:16 Mode: #interdictor[+o Wohali] by michaelloftis 22:16 + theagent> hopefully the logs of scanners and these chats might play a role regarding a decent perspective of timelines 22:16 @ joeldg> cnn right now, Police saying don't go out on the streets that it is not safe under any circumstances 22:16 + tamas> Fats Domino saved, for anyone who cares. Source: http://www.wral.com/apentertainmentnews/4927591/detail.html 22:17 @ djbsquared> randomq: its not really anyones concern 22:17 @ Donny> the network is still the same as before. We just talked to our telcom guy a minute ago. 22:17 @ Wohali> thank you 22:17 @ kow^> tamas: yeah,g ot that one a while ago :) 22:18 @ michaelloftis> Wohali here has a request for any info you may have on Chalmette Medical Centre. 22:18 @ Donny> inter899. I think st. charles was fine, just a lot of water. 22:18 @ kow^> Guys, if you would like to discuss technical issues, please use #interdictor-tech, which has been set up since this morning for that very purpose :) Thanks! 22:18 + CSMan> any *active* scanner ? 22:19 @ Pavix> Yea, I have mine up 22:19 IRCMonkey was kicked from #interdictor by kow^ (kow^) 22:19 @ Pavix> it's quiet but live 22:19 + tamas> I'm having trouble getting solid figures on number of people at Superdome and number moved. 22:19 @ joeldg> Legend: forwarded that info to the other directnic people 22:19 + tamas> We know Astrodome closed doors at about 12,000, expected 23,o00. But this news report suggest more are at the Superdome then when they started: 22:19 @ mathx> freakin HELL fire in the superdome? 22:19 @ mathx> set by fireworks. 22:19 + tamas> http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/breaking_news/12537995.htm 22:19 @ mathx> on both scannerchans 22:20 + tamas> "Half a day after the military began evacuating the Superdome, the arena held 10,000 more people than it did at dawn. Evacuees thinking it's the best place to get a ride out of town poured into the Superdome and swelled the crowd to about 30,000." 22:20 @ mathx> tamas: that begs the question: HOW DID THEY FIND OUT 22:20 @ mathx> there's no power, little radio broadcast or receivers... how? 22:21 + theagent> human intelligence 22:21 @ jon787> mathx: from what I hear they saw the busses and followed 22:21 + CSMan> mathx: link to a scanner, svp. 22:21 + theagent> rumors spread like wildfire 22:21 @ mathx> Everyone read http://nola-intel.org for details on scanner irc channels and feeds, etc. 22:21 @ Pavix> CSMan: check the goodphuck one 22:21 @ Pavix> that's mine, it is up 22:21 @ Textral> need volunteers in #interdictor-scanner2 to transcribe 22:22 + CSMan> thx 22:22 + CSMan> that was pure instinct 22:22 @ mathx> Is the goodphuck scanner the same as the existing 2? 22:22 + theagent> asmig is looking for relief in scanner 22:22 @ mathx> or is it a gulfport scanner 22:22 + tamas> mathx: I cannot find the source for this at the moement, but regarding the extra people coming ot the Superdome, one explanation was that people from surrounding high-rises saw the buses coming. 22:22 @ mathx> PerlJunkie: #-scanner and #-scanner2 22:22 @ Pavix> mathx: It's the one from the .m3u one 22:22 @ mathx> tamas: yeah possible. 22:23 rootuddha was kicked from #interdictor by joeldg (dude.. knock it off) 22:23 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!i=rootuddh@*.rr.com] by joeldg 22:23 @ kow^> what's the website for free registration? 22:23 @ kow^> thanks joel 22:23 + CelinaInCA> From the San Jose Mercury News: About 5,000 refugees made it by bus to Houston's Astrodome, but only 2,000 cots awaited them. 22:24 + CelinaInCA> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/12533177.htm 22:24 @ mathx> Are these people like N00bs? 22:24 @ mathx> how could they not know there were 10000 min coming 22:24 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!*=jkneuper@*.dyn.grandenetworks.net] by djbsquared 22:24 OCA| was kicked from #interdictor by djbsquared (thank you. please come again.) 22:24 + theagent> anyone willing to transcribe report to #interdictor-scanner and msg ASMIG 22:24 Mode: #interdictor[+v Bakudan] by mathx 22:24 @ selcouth> Again, please take chatting to #interdictator-chat - #interdictator-tech for tech related stuff and the 2 scanner channels for the scanners. Please try to keep this channel clean and for news only :) Thanks 22:24 @ selcouth> I totally just wrote 22:24 @ selcouth> Dictator 22:24 @ kow^> interdictor :) 22:24 @ selcouth> And not dictor 22:24 @ selcouth> I am so tired :( 22:24 @ mathx> fragile: speculation about the fire should go to #-chat .. keep this chan for posting real urls of info 22:25 @ djbsquared> omgchatinterdictator! 22:25 Mode: #interdictor[-bb *!i=rootuddh@*.rr.com *!*=jkneuper@*.dyn.grandenetworks.net] by djbsquared 22:25 @ selcouth> I have been awake too long. 22:26 @ Wohali> can someone give me edit ability on the wiki? I want to update the channel list 22:26 @ Donny> inter631. Do you have a phone number to contact them? 22:26 @ Textral> relief needed to transcribe in #-scanner2. If you type fast, have a good connection, and want to help out, please help. 22:26 @ mathx> 01:21 Can we get a replacement transcriber for scanner2? I've got a huge ass storm going on. 22:26 @ mathx> Power flickering 22:26 + rafx> *** SOME LANDLINE PHONES WORKING AGAIN IN THE POPLARVILLE, MS AREA *** Try Bogalusa LA, Wiggens MS, Purvis MS, and Wiggens MS to see if they're up too. 22:26 @ mathx> need volonteers to transcribe if you type fast in #interdictor-scanner2 please! 22:26 @ Teriander> Yea, my phonelines just came up a few hours ago in Baton Rouge 22:27 @ djbsquared> thats good 22:27 @ jon787> please stop sharing user/pass combos for news sites, we have bugmenot.com for those 22:27 @ djbsquared> jon787: its ok, supposedly kow^ asked him 22:27 @ jon787> djbsquared: oh, oops. Well everyone should just use bugmenot.com in the future 22:27 @ djbsquared> sure 22:28 + PatrickLAW> Will a transcriber be needed in about 15 minutes? I am willing to volunteer for as long as I can stay awake 22:28 + John_K> next bacth of DirectNIC's photos up at http://katrina.kelley.ca with annotations 22:28 + John_K> batch* 22:28 + PatrickLAW> I will also need the stream 22:28 @ Donny> she said thanks. But then hid. 22:28 @ michaelloftis> we need transcribing help in #interdictor-scanner2 please mesg an op!! 22:28 + theagent> PatrickLAW, transcribers are always needed... just go to the channels 22:28 @ Donny> She's a model. Give me a sec. 22:28 rootuddha was kicked from #interdictor by joeldg (no...) 22:28 Mode: #interdictor[+b *!i=rootuddh@*.rr.com] by joeldg 22:28 + StuntMonkey> Donny is that you on the cam now? 22:28 + PatrickLAW> Will do 22:29 @ jon787> StuntMonkey: no thats interdictor on the came, donnie sits behind him I think 22:29 @ Donny> Yes. I am the one with the hat in the back. 22:29 + tamas> Many evacuees saying they will not return to New Orleans even if they do get the city restored. I have seen these statements in interviews in several articles now, but a topical source: http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/sep05/352715.asp 22:30 + StuntMonkey> The stripped shirt? hehe bad ass fashion taste 22:30 iarwain1* is going to catch some sleep. Rt. chan sounds like tactical, idle banter mostly. Will be back online as BrianAtDynDNS from work tomorrow. Night all. 22:30 @ djbsquared> mike looks ready to crash 22:30 @ selcouth> Donny is in striped shirt with hat. Mike is in red. Crystal is in the sweater 22:30 @ Donny> interdictor's girlfriend can be found at onemodelplace.com and then id#85637. She wrote it down for me. I haven't gone to it, so I can't rate it. 22:31 @ selcouth> Donny: is it ok to link directly? 22:31 @ Donny> Yeah, stripped shirt. 22:31 @ kow^> I think we're okay on bandwidth for now, but thanks *very much* for the offer. If we need it we will put out an APB :) 22:31 @ Donny> Sure, I guess. She just wrote it down for me when somebody mentioned it. 22:31 @ selcouth> http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?ID=85637 22:31 @ mathy> Donny: you just interdictor-dotted that modelling site ;) 22:31 @ kow^> http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?ID=85637 is the url, and I'd say she's pretty good looking :p 22:32 @ Donny> Amazing! 22:32 + StuntMonkey> HOLY CRAP 22:32 @ Dark-Fx> Donny: tell that girl to eat something! says she has a 23" Waist... 22:33 + StuntMonkey> Michael your girl is FINE 22:33 @ selcouth> Someone was keeping logs of the channels and hosting. If anyone remembers please speak up 22:33 + theagent> cool... 22:33 @ kow^> Foodie^^: do you have a url for that? 22:33 mayo> i have the logs 22:33 @ djbsquared> Foodie^^: this is america, not nazi germany 22:33 @ mathy> Foodie^^: need a url/source for your claims. and with all claims. 22:33 mayo> i haven't blpuicly announced the addy, but i got the logs online 22:33 @ doofoo-> rehash 22:33 @ doofoo-> rehash 22:33 @ doofoo-> rehash 22:33 @ mathy> We have lots of mirroring and bandwidth already. 22:33 + theagent> my daughter... http://www.melissaschuman.org -- kind of famous 22:33 + StuntMonkey> hahaha oh shit he's staring at me 22:33 @ kow^> Okay, enough drooling, if we want to chat more, #interdictor-chat :) 22:33 + theagent> also an actress/singer 22:34 @ mathy> theagent: err, stay on topic please. 22:34 @ mathy> move it to chat 22:34 + theagent> yeah mathy 22:34 Mode: #interdictor[+o Teriander] by ChanServ 22:34 @ kow^> thanks 22:34 @ mathy> Foodie^^: if you have foreign language stuff try to get babelfish.google translatino of it for us 22:34 @ djbsquared> Donny: i know someone was wondering what SOTI stood for 22:34 @ jon787> djbsquared: I am for one 22:34 + tamas> Hearsay, but possibly high desertion rate in the New Orleans police force. "Col. Henry Whitehorn, chief of the Louisiana State Police, said he heard of numerous instances of New Orleans police officers - many of whom from flooded areas - turning in their badges. 22:35 @ djbsquared> Golbola: we could trim you 22:35 + tamas> Source: http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050902/APA/509020554 22:35 @ selcouth> http://oyam.ca/interdictor/ <- logs of some of the channels for whoever wanted them 22:35 @ djbsquared> whoever was talking about mirroring, i think Archive.org might be a better resource 22:35 @ Dark-Fx> 930 people in the channel now 22:35 @ jon787> yeah what do SOTI and CBD stand for? 22:35 @ selcouth> (logs thanks to mayo) 22:36 + tamas> On police desertion note, I read an article previously I do not currently have a link for where a New Orleans police offer